[0:06] all right I'll call the meeting back to order

[0:14] EXC sorry about that folks we have a little technical difficulties

[0:26] there my name is Ree Hamilton I will chair the hearing

[0:30] all comments shall be directed through me admin Administration will make the

[0:35] presentation first following by the opportunity for Council to ask questions

[0:40] of clarification the applicant will then

[0:43] make a presentation if they choose to do so followed by the opportunity of

[0:49] council to ask questions of

[0:53] clarification Council will then hear for those affected in persons in the

[0:58] audience first those who support of the bylaw and then those of

[1:05] opposition of the bylaw all presentations must

[1:11] be present presenters must be registered with the

[1:17] planning department if you have not already done

[1:21] so if you have if your presentation is in written document including Maps

[1:28] photos and reports a copy of the those documents must be left with the

[1:34] administration bylaw 20252 will admin

[1:39] Administration please proceed with the presentation uh thank you through the

[1:45] chair I'm not sure that we had a motion to open the public hearing reev Hamilton

[1:49] with our technical difficulties or did we thank you thank you Michelle

[2:08] good morning and thank you through the chair bylaw

[2:12] 20252 is submitted by Monroe surveys on behalf of Tim and Anna shner to rezone a

[2:17] vacant 6.5 acre parcel from agricultural District 1 to Country residential

[2:23] limited District IDP if the land use amendment is approved then the

[2:27] applicant's intent is to apply to the municipal plan commission for approval

[2:31] to subdivide the parcel from the remainder of the Agricultural title the

[2:35] existing title contains 65.4 6 Acres the land subject of the resoning

[2:41] is contained within the Southwest quarter of section 22 Township 12 range

[2:46] 6 West of the 4th and is located approximately 2.2 km North of Highway 3

[2:52] and 280 M west of the jurisdictional boundary of Cypress County and the City

[2:57] of medison hat the area situated to the east of Range Road 63 and is capable of

[3:02] gaining direct and immediate access from this established public

[3:06] road the remainder of the Agricultural title will continue to utilize an

[3:11] existing private access Drive located further to the north the

[3:15] reclassification area is vacant while the remainder of the parcel contains

[3:18] established yard site and Irrigation District um irrigation

[3:23] Acres the area subject of this application does not contain irrigable

[3:27] acres and therefore is not anticipated to be impact

[3:30] Ed the immediately surrounding lands are designated agricultural land use under

[3:34] the County's land use bylaw and are several established greenh houses

[3:38] located in the area with the nearest being approximately 300 M to the north

[3:43] and there is also a nearby country residential subdivision 1 and A4

[3:47] kilometers to the

[3:49] Southwest the applicant has submitted the proposed lot layout to accommodate

[3:53] the subdivision density requirements of the Tri Area intermunicipal development

[3:58] plan the proposal provides for the least disruption to the

[4:01] irrigated Acres on the parcel the surveyor has also produced a plan

[4:06] indicating an appropriate Development Area which accommodates the minimum

[4:09] setbacks of the land use bylaw there are no oil or gas wells in proximity to the

[4:14] proposed reclassification area if the application were to be

[4:18] approved the reclassification and subdivision would be the final title

[4:22] eligible to be subdivided under the current potential growth area policies

[4:26] of the IDP the cus scatch Regional plan states

[4:30] that municipalities are to identify their agricultural lands and to limit

[4:34] fragmentation and conversion to non-agricultural uses the efficient use

[4:38] of land policy states that the land use framework promotes approaches to reduce

[4:43] the amount of land taken up by permanent or long-term development by utilizing

[4:46] the minimum amount of land that is necessary section 2.6 potential growth

[4:52] area of the Tri Area intermunicipal development plan states that the county

[4:57] wishes to retain the rural nature of its rate paays and believes that service

[5:00] residential development outside existing Hamlet boundaries becomes costly and

[5:05] difficult to administer and maintain the county has a limited

[5:09] capacity to provide an urban level of water and sewer services to the area and

[5:13] its other hamlets the IDP recognizes that it is in the interest of both the

[5:17] city and the county to retain large parcel sizes for agricultural

[5:22] purposes under the potential growth area policy section 2.6.2 it directs Council

[5:27] as follows Agricultural and agricultural support

[5:31] uses within the potential growth area are preferred uses other than

[5:35] agriculture or agricultural support should not be allowed unless they're an

[5:39] existing use or the expansion of an existing use Parcels located within the

[5:44] potential growth area may be considered by the county for a land use bylaw

[5:47] Amendment and subdivision approval for limited country

[5:51] residential the cumulative area of the subdivision shall not exceed 10% of the

[5:55] original parcel to be subdivided as it existed as prior to the adoption of the

[6:01] sidp and in order to be eligible for further subdivision a parcel must be at

[6:05] least 40 acres in size and must not be located on irrigated

[6:11] land section 4.1.2 4 subdivision IDP of the Count's Municipal development plan

[6:17] states that the county shall follow all applicable policies within the IDP

[6:21] relating to subdivision of lands within the

[6:24] boundary at the time of writing this report no comments were received from

[6:28] the town of redcliffe we did receive comments from the med city of Medicine

[6:32] Hat uh just recently and they've provided that they have no objection

[6:36] provided that the current potential growth area policies are followed and

[6:39] Alberta transportation and economic corridors is

[6:43] consulted at the time of writing in the report no comments were received from

[6:47] any adjacent land owners and due to the applications

[6:52] proximity to the Highway 3 Alberta transportation and economic corridors is

[6:57] a required referral they replied that the Department anticipates minimal

[7:01] impact on the highway from The Proposal there is no proposed access to the

[7:05] highway and there is sufficient local Road access to the subdivision and the

[7:09] adjacent lands a tech grants approval for the subdivision authority to vary

[7:13] the requirements of section 18 and 19 of the subdivision and development

[7:19] regulation Administration recommends that Council move second and third

[7:22] readings for bylaw 20252 the proposed application for

[7:26] resoning complies with the efficient use of land principles of the s skatan

[7:30] Regional plan section 2.6 potential growth area policies of the

[7:35] intermunicipal development plan as well as section 4.1.2 4 of the municipal

[7:40] development plan that concludes my presentation thank you

[7:45] Ken are there any questions or clarifications from Administration from

[7:54] Council please yeah to the chair I just so that

[7:58] land to the North where like the green hous is that's all zoned egg right now

[8:04] then through the chair all of the lands contained to the north and it's shown on

[8:09] the um adjacent land use map everywhere that you see highlighted and green is

[8:13] agriculturally districted and then further to the southwest and blue is the

[8:16] country residential districts Rob thank you through the

[8:22] chair um Ken with the parcel that they're looking at or uh subdividing out

[8:29] with the setbacks that are required for development does that give it actually

[8:33] enough space um to do a residential subdivision with with the amount of it's

[8:40] long and narrow um just wondering if there's enough room for the the setbacks

[8:45] that we would require for that that's a great question through the

[8:49] chair we did have the surveyor plot out um essentially a building envelope that

[8:53] accommodates um 6 M from both the side and rear property lines as well as the

[8:58] 40 m minimum setback from Range Road 63 there's adequate area um it's actually

[9:05] quite deceiving the the area north south is 50 m um running north south which

[9:10] would allow about a 30 m uh distance for actual development to be located in

[9:17] there any other

[9:21] questions not seeing any does the applicant have any

[9:28] presentation

[9:33] okay does council have any questions for the

[9:38] applicant not seeing any I will now call for any particip

[9:44] participants for anyone in the support of the proposed

[9:52] bylaw I will now call a second time for participation for any support in the

[9:58] proposed

[10:02] bylaw I will now call a third time for any participation in the

[10:07] proposed

[10:11] bylaw I will now call for any presentations for anyone opposed to the

[10:16] proposed

[10:20] bylaw I'll call a second time for any presentations for anyone opposing

[10:30] third and final time for anyone proposing the proposed

[10:36] bylaw I now will call for any final submissions for those who feel they have

[10:41] not had the opportunity to fully participate in the public

[10:48] hearing the public hearing for bylaw 20252 is now concluded and no further

[10:56] submissions will be accepted I will call for a motion to close the

[11:02] public hearing uh

[11:06] Dustin at

[11:11] 10:23

[11:17] vote

[11:20] okay we are on to 6.1

[11:29] motion for dun more Junction

[11:33] Dustin thank you Reeve um so I I brought this forward uh just to more or less

[11:39] open discussion back up um with the just one second here with

[11:44] regarding dun more Junction um I I did receive quite a few calls on this

[11:49] between the period of or last meeting December and then

[11:54] actually in the January of people asking questions and more or less looking

[12:00] to see if there will be land available to purchase out there and I said well we

[12:03] have to make that decision as Council and I'll bring it back so that's

[12:06] essentially what this is and it was more or less to get it rocken so it doesn't

[12:09] fall off the books and we can make a decision one way or the

[12:15] other Mr members of council is this is a land issue I would suggest that Council

[12:20] either to discuss strategy with the with the sale or with the development of that

[12:24] land that Council either move into Clos session at this point or leave it a Clos

[12:28] session later in the day are you good to leave it till later okay

[12:33] we'll move this over till later in the day when we go in close

[12:37] session all right we're on to

[12:45] 7.1.1

[12:54] who's that was I thought yeah no time for coffee kayen

[13:04] sorry I did think that was going to go longer in the discussion

[13:08] so through the chair applicant just had a few questions so um bylaw

[13:14] 20252 um is submitted by Tim and Anna shner to reone a vacant 6.5 acre parcel

[13:21] the public hearing just occurred and the recommendation is that Council move

[13:25] second and third readings of the bylaw thank you

[13:30] you Richard's moving second anybody have any questions or comments on

[13:38] it Keith this this won't come anywhere

[13:43] close to the highway 320 or that's not our concern is

[13:47] it no because Alberta transportation is

[13:52] already okay it

[13:55] okay any other questions not seeing

[14:01] any

[14:07] vote that's carried somebody want to move

[14:12] third Blain's moving third

[14:23] vote that's carried okay we're on to 7.1.2

[14:33] thank you through the chair bylaw 20253 is submitted by Linda Weir to reone a56

[14:39] acre parcel from agricultural District 1 to Hamlet Industrial District the

[14:44] property is located along Charles Street within the Hamlet of Dunmore and the

[14:48] recommendation is for Council to move first reading of the bylaw with the

[14:51] public hearing to be set for February 19th thank you Ken Robin you're moving

[14:57] that do you you want to comment on it or okay any

[15:03] comments

[15:09] vote it's carried

[15:15] 7.1.3 now you can have your coffee kayen thank you

[15:20] through thank you through the chair um we have the annual Fire Guard

[15:25] appointments RFD in front of you also have fire chief Jason here to answer any

[15:30] questions or concerns regarding uh the appointments um Administration is

[15:35] recommending the appointment of our fire chief our Deputy fire chief as well as

[15:41] the um direct or the uh Duty Officers uh to provide fire Guardian services within

[15:48] the county says a requirement of the forest and protect prair protection act

[15:52] and an annual Administration uh appointment

[15:59] thank you somebody want to move that

[16:05] Lloyd uh Les lean do you want to read off all

[16:10] of the names the council appoints Jason Linton Matt O'Reilly Keith fiser Brady

[16:17] Panos Les durksen Jim fuss and Justin S duraf as fire Guardians for a term of

[16:23] one year in accordance with the forest and Prairie protection

[16:27] act Thank You Les any questions on

[16:31] it

[16:37] vote that's carried

[16:42] 7.1.4 thank you and through the chair uh we have in front of you an item for a

[16:46] municipal bylaw officer appointment uh we have our current uh officer uh

[16:52] retiring this week and in the inter term we have hired on Jason shriber as our

[16:59] Municipal peace officer uh there are two appointments required for him to enact

[17:03] full Powers the first is through um our own bylaw officer

[17:09] bylaw um and while this is going on we also have the uh provincial appointment

[17:14] that is through the soulen so Administration is recommending

[17:19] the appointment of Jason triver as the Cyprus County Municipal bylaw

[17:22] enforcement officer uh to take effect when he completes the oath of office

[17:30] okay thank you Dustin moving that any questions on

[17:37] it just a minor one um probably for the r paers does the cell phone number

[17:42] change then or is it a new a new number issued there will be a new phone number

[17:48] being issued um so we will have posting and um some social media that'll go out

[17:54] um when the new peace officer appointment comes through

[17:59] okay any other questions

[18:11] vote okay that's carried all right thank you

[18:17] Joel come on up

[18:24] Ken CH miss this one favor Public

[18:29] Works uh new private dust control thank you through the chair we

[18:37] prepared the uh new private DK control program to move forward through um

[18:43] Administration is seeking council's Direction on establishing a cost formula

[18:49] to determine the fee for new private dust control application using calcium

[18:54] or similar dust suppressant products um through Motion in 2024

[19:01] Council chose to uh transition from oil to calcium for all new dust patches um

[19:08] starting in January 1st 2025 as part of this transition Council requested

[19:14] Administration to develop a costing formula for implementation of this

[19:19] plan little bit of background the use of calcium and a similar death suppressant

[19:24] products such as mg30 are used in real municipalities on

[19:29] gravel roads to reduce D or dust counties and MDS that have historically

[19:35] used oil balc surfacing such as cold mix have transitioned to the dust

[19:40] suppressant product due to the increasingly High Cost of installation

[19:44] and overall maintenance costs of the oil bound

[19:49] surfacing the new dust suppressant product replacing the oil bound cold mix

[19:55] surfacing will not be subject to the special tax for dust

[20:00] control as it is a one-time application upon

[20:04] request application will be applications will be accepted up until March 1st of

[20:11] each calendar year with a minimum of three application required for the

[20:15] program to proceed for that Year Legacy oil dust control patches

[20:21] installed before 2025 will continue to be maintained by the county until

[20:26] further and Future phase out strategies are presented to council for

[20:34] approval Administration has reviewed the costs associated with supplying and

[20:38] applying the new dust suppressant treatment in addition to consultation

[20:43] with neighboring municipalities on various cost sharing

[20:48] strategies the approach to follow here is the applicant would cover 65% of the

[20:54] costs representing the product cost only the county covers

[21:03] 35% representing the equipment and labor expenses required to place the

[21:09] product followup actions after this motion would be updating the 2025 Master

[21:16] rates bylaw and bringing back the dust control policy with

[21:24] amendments reference to the Strategic plan that that transition from oil bound

[21:29] surfacing coal mix to calcium along with establishing a cost share model for all

[21:35] new dust control patches will align with council's balanced Financial strategy

[21:40] objective of cost share recovery for services and operational

[21:48] stabilization recommended motion that Council direct Administration to prepare

[21:54] the master rates bylaw with update rates established a cost sharing model for new

[21:59] private dust control application wherein the applicant pays

[22:04] 65% and the county contributes 25 or 35% of the total

[22:10] cost I prepared a a few other options for council's consideration the second

[22:17] one would be that Council direct Administration to prepare the master

[22:21] rates bylaw with update rates establish a cost sharing model for new private

[22:27] dust control applications within that the application

[22:31] covers an amount determined by Council of the total cost and the county

[22:37] contributes a percentage that Council would

[22:42] decide the third option that Council direct Administration to prepare the

[22:47] master rates bylaw with updated rates establishing full cost recovery for new

[22:54] private dust control application wherein the applicant covers 100% of the cost of

[23:00] installation fourth option that Council direct Administration to bring back

[23:05] alternative cost sharing models for new private desk control applications to a

[23:10] future

[23:13] meeting any questions thank you

[23:18] Dustin can I ask a question or can I make do I have to make a motion

[23:23] first make a motion okay I'll move number

[23:27] three um and then my question would also be on that what is the plan on

[23:33] continuation onr maintenance with them what would the cost share fund is that

[23:37] going to be the same cost your funding model or is it going to be different

[23:40] from the

[23:44] original through the chair the the existing oil that's down as mentioned in

[23:50] here it will continue to maintain it at the County's costs and in the future

[23:55] we'll look at implementing phase out strategies as as where if the dust dust

[24:02] um suppressant product requires full uh

[24:07] Rehabilitation then we can look at in the future of removing that or cost

[24:12] going to the applicant to re redo it again so redo it to with a new product

[24:18] so once it gets passed to a certain point then we would look at you know not

[24:25] providing the oil again so that's not part of this motion that's what I'm

[24:29] asking though on the on the new product when it needs to be reapplied what how's

[24:34] what's the CER model there is it they going to be the same as the original or

[24:38] is it going to be a shared yeah through the chair it will be the same

[24:42] formula so I guess maybe I'll change my motion then a little bit so I would like

[24:50] I like the idea of the initial cost being 100% on the on the rate pair but

[24:56] then a reapplication be a 50

[25:02] split okay as a motion should we look and see how long that's going to last

[25:07] well if we look at any of our mg roads it's so far we see that what three to

[25:12] five year mark sort of thing

[25:16] y through the chair yeah as far as the dust suppress a product it it ranges it

[25:22] depends on the amount of traffic the high use roads it could be the next year

[25:27] needs to to be reapplied could be 2 years could be 3 years so it's not

[25:33] guarantee we don't guarantee it for any length of time it's proven to last a

[25:38] good six months through the dusty season but we'll continue on if there's limited

[25:44] traffic on the road because essentially right now we're charging what is an

[25:49] annual maintenance fee on dust control 475 475 yeah through the M through the

[25:55] chair the master rates is 475 for this year and increases to

[26:01] $25 in 2026 through that was through a council

[26:05] motion so that really doesn't really cover the cost of Maintenance the

[26:11] maintenance cost on average ranges from 6,000 to 7,000 for rip and replace so

[26:18] that's probably about 15 years you'd have to pay that off the initial one as

[26:23] we knowe um costs if you want new dust de batment would be about 25 to

[26:30] 27,000 so it take 50 years for that to pay so that you know that I think that's

[26:35] why we're here to so with uh with a new application being 22 or

[26:43] 2,250 with mg what would a reapplication cost be the

[26:48] same right now it's the same I I suggest or recommend uh evaluation over the year

[26:54] to see if the product is the samec application rate so as far as um maybe

[27:01] it's the third time maybe the liters per square meter can be reduced so there

[27:06] could be some cost saving there um I think that's probably we'll get some

[27:11] good data on the first year to make that change so I I guess

[27:18] essentially what my question for Council would be then I I like the idea of it

[27:22] getting paid for completely upfront but where is our comfortability on that

[27:28] maintenance aspect is it 100% on the rate pair every year or is that a split

[27:34] that we

[27:40] do would the through the chair um would if the county takes over half and half

[27:47] like after for this second re putting it on is that affordable like can we if if

[27:53] we do that are we going in the hole that way

[28:00] through the chair uh no um It's very coste effective to to do that split um

[28:07] we did factor that in our 2025 budget just for maintenance for uh throughout

[28:12] the year um but as far as um the maintenance cost or the reapplication

[28:20] the whole process is the same no matter what same equipment same product maybe

[28:26] the time that the product goes down it's just the volume of the

[28:34] product Rob and you heads up yeah thank you Ken through the chair

[28:40] the the annual maintenance fee um it seems if if the reapplication is say

[28:46] that $1,500 and it could last for three years it seems like the maintenance fee

[28:51] itself could almost stay the same and just we change the standard and the

[28:56] product that we use I'm I'm okay I I suppose with the uh the covering the

[29:02] cost UPF front um but part of me also wonders if you know if we just set up

[29:07] that annual you sign up for the program this is what you're going to be paying

[29:12] um you know 600 $500 a year whatever that looks like um you know it's

[29:18] affordable people can get into it we're just changing the standard that is

[29:21] something that's easier to maintain and it's easier to swallow and what we're

[29:25] charging actually covers off what we've got I'm kind kind kind of curious if

[29:28] there's any interest in

[29:32] that Richard two questions first one is what

[29:37] kind of preparation is being done before this is

[29:44] applied thank you through the chair um the road will be inspected and uh the

[29:50] assessment of the gravel surfacing will be uh looked at the additional gravel

[29:54] will be placed prior um to a certain rate and then there will be a mixing

[30:00] process if we're talking about prior to the product being applied there's a

[30:04] water truck that needs to be there for that application too and then it gets

[30:09] worked in the top four to six inches and then packed down

[30:15] okay um what was my other question I I guess for discussion I have

[30:21] a tough time um having the applicant pay the total bill when I think about it

[30:30] um uh it it we're going to do some grading anyway

[30:36] we're going to put some gravel down in most cases because we're up we keep our

[30:39] roads in great shape so I have more of the opinion that the

[30:45] applicant pays for the product and we look after the equipment and the labor

[30:51] expenses that also kind of softens the blow a bit uh because I look at what

[30:57] we're doing with people that have the oil portion portions by their Road and

[31:02] um we're we're definitely helping them out uh the other part is that we

[31:09] encourage any new development to be on a dry Corner which is always close to a

[31:16] road we we encourage them to be have easy access onto a road so um we're

[31:22] placing we're we're asking them to place their houses or

[31:29] buildings in a in an area that um will get dust it's just part of it

[31:38] and uh not everybody can be back a few hundred yards from the from the road I

[31:44] know DUS in your your backways but other people on the dry garders aren't always

[31:50] that lucky so I I just feel that we need to pick up part of the tab and um the

[31:56] equipment parts um I feel should be

[32:01] ours Destin so I I'm okay with picking up some of the tab but I I kind of

[32:07] propose it a little bit of a different way so I I I think what we should be

[32:13] doing is that 2250 up front to get it initially installed and then after that

[32:18] we do it on a 5050 Coster so we essentially go off the premises that

[32:22] it's going to last for three years and uh then so essentially you break that

[32:26] down it's going to be $750 uh cost per year for that so we

[32:33] split that in half and 375 is what the rate payer would pay as a maintenance Fe

[32:37] a year after ongoing afterwards and that would essentially in three years time

[32:42] pay 50% of that

[32:46] reapplication thank you Mr members of the council just for clarification the

[32:50] byla doesn't speak the 475 a year being for maintenance it's for the initial

[32:54] placement of the dust control there the B doesn't use the words maintenance it

[32:58] uses the words placement of dust control

[33:08] product thank you Mr re through the chair to our our new leader um can you

[33:14] would you are you suggesting then that it it states that it's for placement of

[33:18] and that maintenance has been simply implied or assumed because we haven't as

[33:25] maintenance occurs I don't believe that there has been any kind of new fee or

[33:29] anything like that in my experience through the chair the uh the

[33:35] byw actually reads uh uh and whereas the cost or portion of the cost should be

[33:40] collected by way of a special tax that's as per the MGA and whereas the cost of

[33:44] placing dust treatment on roads adjacent to parcel of land benefiting there from

[33:48] is included in the annual budget and estimated be it when the bylaw was

[33:51] passed it at almost $600,000 so the byla itself reads it

[33:55] it's for placement um and my interpretation of that would be that the

[33:59] the um with the tax R that's attached to it that $475 a year is to recover the

[34:04] the cost of the placement of the desk control and maintenance is a separate

[34:08] issue I'm not suggesting for a moment that Council couldn't have a maintenance

[34:12] fee or shouldn't have a maintenance fee but I we're talking about maintenance

[34:15] with the bylaw when in actual fact the bylaw is about placement not about

[34:22] maintenance so then if we go the way DUS and say we need to have another bylaw

[34:27] that say says it's a maintenance well either another bylaw or we need to amend

[34:31] the bylaw CU I think what you're saying too is that

[34:35] regardless of what we do with the mg30 and the calcium that ambiguity exists

[34:41] still with the existing bylaw that we have through the chair um yes and no uh

[34:48] for example with the new dust control product that uh Mr Lucas is talking

[34:52] about is or sorry Mr Jacobs is talking about um uh I don't know where that came

[34:57] from um the uh uh that can just be I believe

[35:02] that can just be handled through policy because you're going to pay upfront to

[35:04] get your dust control you get your mg30 or calcium Chlor whatever it is you're

[35:07] going to pay up front um U part of the issue with the oil dust control that's

[35:14] expensive is we were essentially um helping offset that cost over multiple

[35:20] years and if you didn't have it through bylaw then it would be impossible to put

[35:23] back on somebody's taxes if they refused to pay uh but on a product just md30 or

[35:28] calcium chloride that you're going to have them pay up front uh then you could

[35:32] just have an annual maintenance fee attached through a policy so it would

[35:36] the bot itself would not need to change in that regard now if you want to call

[35:40] maintenance uh or placement I I'll leave that to council to determine if you're

[35:45] happy with what's currently there uh but on the new product I think that's easily

[35:49] handled just through policy I had a a a quick whisper with the um with Mr Daves

[35:54] and he agrees that that could be just through through the policy

[36:00] yeah we don't want to touch that 475 because that's actually piding for that

[36:05] $30,000 placement that we put in UNC for all those years we need that to stay

[36:12] there I I think that um when I brought that up and and perhaps with Dustin as

[36:17] well we keep on bringing in how it's been but that's not what we're talking

[36:21] about currently we're definitely talking about the new product that we have

[36:25] moving forward and and the reason why kind of brought it up is it makes it

[36:29] does make it more affordable than having a $3,000 bill for somebody who wants to

[36:34] put the material in I suppose we can kind of gauge that with our residents to

[36:37] see whether that's something that is going to be um palatable or or not it's

[36:42] certainly a big change going from 475 a year for strip to you know yes it's a

[36:47] one-time fee up front but for some that that might be a tougher pill uh to

[36:52] swallow um but that's that's why I kind of brought it up as a gives them a

[36:56] little bit of a the ility to eat it in chunks but I also understand what we're

[37:01] talking about with The Upfront part Mr Jacobs through the chair um as

[37:08] far as maintenance maintenance is pretty much limited to smoothing out it's it

[37:13] takes less grading because it's holding the material in a little bit better it's

[37:18] stabilizing it um so as far as the maintenance cost would be tricky to kind

[37:23] of gauge a value there um with that product also there is a bit of a cost sa

[37:29] saving too with it locks in the gravel a bit more so um 40% more that's on the

[37:36] ter so for gravel loss so as far as maintenance I mean greater go by that

[37:41] road anyways so there there really wouldn't be an ongoing maintenance

[37:47] application I still see the maintenance portion as like if you take a 10e you're

[37:52] not on sorry if you take a 10year cycle you might reapply two or three times you

[37:56] amiz that divided by 10 gives you an annual cost to to keep that you know

[38:01] applied in decent shape something like that that's where my mindset was at with

[38:05] it I I I agree with you it's not like it's we're sending a truck out

[38:09] specifically to grade it because we are going over

[38:12] it yep in yeah initially it's um set up as a one-time application and then when

[38:20] the product when it gets a little more Dusty after a year or two then they

[38:24] would reapply that's typically with the other municip ality is how it

[38:30] stands uh bla yeah to the chair so just to back this up and so I can understand

[38:37] it better what we're talking about right now is the application here whether it's

[38:41] 65 75 100 whatever but the 470 wouldn't the 475 maintenance fee still be

[38:49] applied to the tax roll yearly or is this going to be a separate thing or

[38:54] that's the oil less thank you through the

[38:59] chair I think in my opinion what how Council maybe needs to look at this is

[39:03] that it's two separate items so you have your legacy dust control which is your

[39:08] oil service and now council's directed Administration to come back with um

[39:14] we're going to use this new product right we're transitioning away from the

[39:18] the oil dust control so I think you have to kind of look at them as as two

[39:22] separate products right does Administration need to bring back a

[39:26] recommendation to council how we're going to phase out those dust control

[39:29] strips um in the future but but we have to kind of look at it as two separate uh

[39:36] programs yeah that's what I kind of said there because that that oiled one was a

[39:42] $30,000 cost to put that in and that 475 is to recuperate that original that

[39:48] isn't even a maintenance fee in there that's just to recuperate the first

[39:51] laying of it so we got to keep that out of our

[39:55] minds and then we got to think about this proposal in front of

[39:58] us which I have on the floor still at 100% or what 100% just for this but

[40:05] we're not discussing maintenance fee on this this is just the

[40:09] application so we're voting on The applic or on this

[40:15] right now should we bring this back in a year or two and see how it's holding up

[40:20] and then we can look at we can't predict maybe this stuff's going to last five

[40:25] years and we or a year from now Robin thank you um councelor vosler

[40:32] could I could I potentially um sell you on a friendly amendment to doing the the

[40:39] the cost share and here's why I'm kind of hung up on it I just mentioned to

[40:42] councelor Ritz the the fact that it's based on traffic and all that different

[40:48] stuff as well and there is that you know 40% savings and and gravel loss and

[40:53] things like that there are some benefits to the county and I see if we're if

[40:58] we're charging The Upfront to the resident but you have a busy road where

[41:03] other people are utilizing that busy road they're wearing that road out

[41:07] quicker I I see I see there being some value to the county contributing a bit

[41:12] on the up front part on that as well um you know yes they still choose to live

[41:16] on a busy road but if they're paying Upfront for the material they may be

[41:20] doing it quite a lot more frequently and if there is an upside to us and it

[41:24] simplifies our process I would would you accept it as a as a friendly amendment

[41:29] to your 100% there a middle ground there the the reason I went the 100%

[41:38] rout is because I feel that it's one of those things if you everyone's got to

[41:43] pay their little bit of a piece of a pie to get something you know we we've been

[41:47] giving a lot away for a lot of years and it's it's time to stop it it really is

[41:53] so you know I don't look at 2200 $50 being an unreasonable ask to take and

[42:01] get dust control put in front of your property and then that's where I had

[42:05] that conversation about the maintenance being shared after the fact and that way

[42:10] it just essentially a flat maintenance fee right whether that's 375 475 575 a

[42:16] year and that's just what you pay from there on out I I feel it's a it's a

[42:21] fairer approach that way to having that product being done at some sort of a a

[42:29] discounted cost in front of your property because not everybody gets it

[42:33] and not everybody's going to pay for it you know it with the existing dust

[42:36] control it's a everybody who had that had a really good deal for a lot of

[42:40] years that was a really really really good deal but we're done with it we we

[42:44] can't afford to play that game anymore so I think going forward we should

[42:50] probably just hit the nail on the head right off the start and say you know

[42:53] this is what the initial cost is and this and this is the maintenance every

[42:56] year going forward and uh and be done with it and that and you know it gives

[43:03] us pretty much uh it gives us a full cost recovery off the start and then 50%

[43:09] is going forward and you know some are going to last longer than others and you

[43:14] know hopefully they all offset each other that that's that's the way I'm

[43:18] looking at it okay so there's no friendly there your motion right now is

[43:23] 100% up front and 50% or do you want want to hold off and

[43:28] review it for one year and I I I honestly think we we could take and put

[43:33] the 50% in off the start and we and let's just make it that we review it in

[43:37] the year okay because then then there's at least something on paper and if it's

[43:42] none of us sitting at this table in a year's time at least they know what we

[43:45] were thinking okay so before I let you go I just want to make sure we have the

[43:50] motion right on what Dustin saying so you're saying

[43:55] 100% up front pay him for it and

[44:01] 50% so so just we'll put a dollar figure on instead of 50% just put a dollar

[44:06] figure of uh 375 and that'll work out to 50% over a threeyear time period if it

[44:11] lasts three years yeah okay and to be reviewed in one year to

[44:16] see how it's Lo holding up just and it'll give us then we have a metric to

[44:19] work on in the following year yep

[44:27] okay someone will be here to remember okay so that's the motion Les

[44:33] are you clear on that no I'm not I'm not clear so is the 50%

[44:38] for um for maintenance or I I'm unclear okay hold on whe whether the word is

[44:45] maintenance whether the word is continuing care I don't really care what

[44:49] it is it's whatever works out the best in your guys's

[44:52] wording m m Mr reev I would suggest two motions uh one uh one one would be uh

[44:57] the recommended action of number three as per councilor vosler and then a

[45:01] separate motion discussing the uh the maintenance the maintenance recovery

[45:07] over whether the three-year period I was just I I think that's part of the

[45:10] confusion right now is I think two motions that'll keep it cleanest okay

[45:14] okay so the motion I have under the floor right now is for 100% cost

[45:18] recovery off to start okay everybody's clear on that

[45:24] yeah okay you have a question on it yeah what what I'm concerned about though is

[45:29] that if they're they need to be tied together somehow um because otherwise

[45:33] we're saying it's going to be 2250 for a strip and if it's going to wear out in a

[45:38] year a year and a half we may have people that are paying $1,500 a year

[45:42] $2,000 a year on a busy road for potentially no we won't because

[45:48] well we assuming that hold on it's the initial costing yeah so the initial cost

[45:53] is $2,250 I agree but you're assuming that the next motion's going to pass

[45:57] well if it doesn't if it doesn't pass then I guess they pay that every year

[46:01] that's still pass them both and then it'll be fine yeah okay so the motion I

[46:06] have on the floor right now is for 100% cost recovery there no maintenance in it

[46:11] that's what the motion is everybody's clear on

[46:15] that does anybody want to talk on that

[46:20] motion Keith so I'm just going to get back to what Richard was saying

[46:27] if we put this product down will there

[46:33] be any cost savings to the county because we have put a doubt because if

[46:40] we're expecting the landowner to pay for it all that we're making the

[46:44] savings that tend to kind of waffle a little bit on that then but I don't know

[46:51] what that savings would be maybe you could help me out on that

[46:56] what that savings would be if in that first

[47:01] year through the chair um if we're looking at probably 40% gravel reduction

[47:07] uh loss

[47:10] um and probably 50% of the grading required on that on the

[47:16] surface um probably $50 to

[47:22] $100 yeah that's so not it's it's fairly negligible for the short short patch so

[47:29] would be pretty minimal then yeah okay

[47:37] no no you you can speak Michelle you had something I I am a little confused about

[47:44] this is so if we make it so that the rate pairs pay the 100% is the special

[47:51] tax still on there that they're still paying $475 a year no that's that's

[47:58] nothing to do with this one two completely different

[48:06] things any other questions or comments yes one more comment I I will be voting

[48:13] no against 100% And it's because I don't feel that we're being fair to the rate

[48:18] pairs uh council could pass uh another Greenhouse development uh it could be uh

[48:26] there could be another hutterite Colony going in there uh my neighbor could now

[48:31] go from dry land to irrigation and all of a sudden the yield is gone up 1,000%

[48:38] which increases all the traffic or or the amount of traffic going by me big

[48:42] time so um you're penalizing the r PA with the with the full cost because the

[48:50] traffic is increased I I feel that um we need to be fair with the rate pairer and

[48:59] yeah you want you want some product we'll put it down but we will look after

[49:04] the rest of it

[49:08] so okay so the comment on that one Richard is this is just for the laying

[49:14] of the initial cost of it if we get to the next step where we're sharing a

[49:19] portion okay then what you're saying is covered in that

[49:24] so it's you got to think of it two different motions there yeah and my

[49:29] first yeah but my my thoughts are the way it was first presented at

[49:35] 6535 is what I like BL yeah that's I just wanted to

[49:42] clarify that too because my concern is the 100% you know 2250 if it has to get

[49:49] maintained and to redone again in a year or even if it's two years then the ray

[49:54] is going to be on the hook for half of it according to

[49:57] the rest of D in motion am I right so he's going to be paying

[50:02] $3,000 in two years then essentially what I'm proposing here

[50:09] and this first motion has to go at 100% to do that because I want them to pay a

[50:13] 100% to the initial UPF front the second motion I want to do is I want to do a

[50:18] 50% on a three-year replacement so it's $375 per year is what that would work

[50:25] out to where do you you come up at $375 so if you take $2,250 you divide it by

[50:31] three years that's $750 divide it by two that's $375 what what if it gets needs

[50:35] to be redone the next year we're averaging it out on a three-year term

[50:38] and that's where it's I we put it Market as that and then we revisit it in that

[50:42] year's time if they're holding up we leave it alone if we don't if it's not

[50:46] we revisit it Mr Jacobs yeah I struggle with the um the threeyear or specifying

[50:54] a period of time on the product not knowing the um how effective it

[51:01] is um initially um having it as a one-time

[51:08] application at 100% okay and if it lasts one or two years I need to reapply it

[51:16] perhaps a like a for the second application third or any down the road

[51:21] it's a cost share in that strategy like a 50/50 or because it likely will lose

[51:28] or use less but that but the problem with doing it that way is is on the busy

[51:34] roads it's going to cost that person a lot more and on the on the non- busy

[51:38] roads it's going to cost that person a whole lot less doing it this way takes

[51:42] and shares those two together so everybody pays kind of an equal portion

[51:45] of it that's what I'm getting at it's essentially the same kind of thing as

[51:49] what dust control is how we have that yearly fee that 475

[51:57] okay we got uh I'm not going to call a question yet we're discussing so I'm

[52:03] going to table this because we have delegations here and we'll get back to

[52:07] this after the delegations that way Mr Hawk will get a

[52:11] chance to see what we're talking about because he just came in from his

[52:15] doctor's appointment so table it we'll take a fem minute

[52:21] break I apologize I was talking out loud so that's okay M Mr ree could we

[52:26] actually have have somebody make the tabling

[52:28] motion yeah yeah Richards thank you making that

[52:33] motion

[52:37] vote you guys vote over there I don't know if anybody heard yeah I seen

[52:42] Robin's vote was yes it's carried sorry about that okay let's take five minutes

[53:15] sorry all right guys we'll get everybody back in their positions

[53:28] Ken can you grab that door thank

[53:34] you all right call the meeting back to order we have our a few minutes late

[53:41] here but our 11 o' delegation is here I'll give the floor to you all

[53:47] right thank you very much uh reev and Council for allowing us to come back and

[53:52] visit you again regarding the Southern Regional storm water drainage committee

[53:56] um I am Merl Harris a counselor with the municipal District of

[53:59] Taber I'm Gary France just a local farmer west of

[54:06] here there you go uh Gary France a local farmer just west of here uh I was past

[54:13] chair of St Mary's River Irrigation District and uh um co-chair of of the

[54:18] committee here arlis Croft CAO with the municipal District of

[54:24] tabber okay well as I said we'd like we're grateful for the opportunity to be

[54:29] back to visit with you and to um bring you up to speed as to what's been

[54:32] happening with the drainage committee this committee was sort of

[54:36] loosely formed uh back in about 2013 after numerous uh uh severe flooding

[54:42] events that occurred in 2010 2011 2013 14 and 18 18 and these some of these

[54:49] storms uh have created a lot of significant damage to crop land

[54:52] infrastructure and personal residences the Regional drainage

[54:57] committee was formed to study the area and if you can move to the map I think

[55:01] it's one more down uh to study the area and develop solutions to the ever

[55:06] increasing storm water no not that map um the one that's uh just custom that

[55:13] one right there so this is the area that was studied the uh the provincial

[55:17] government gave us a grant to to do a regional uh drainage study so as you'll

[55:23] see on the map there it starts all the way down south of um McGrath uh Alberta

[55:30] extends up through the uh east side of Lethbridge and all the all the region

[55:35] from basically East albri to the city of Madison hat this area was studied and

[55:41] numerous projects were identified that would help uh alleviate drainage uh

[55:46] issues throughout the region um prior to the formation of this

[55:53] uh uh committee and prior to to the beginning of the horsefly Spillway

[55:58] project there was only one place along that whole um smri main Canal that water

[56:03] could be taken out of the out of the canal and dumped back into the river

[56:07] system so that more more drainage water could be added into the into the

[56:11] irrigation infrastructure and um during some after

[56:16] some of these major storm events uh like you know

[56:20] the farmers and land owners want to get their the water off their land as

[56:24] quickly as they could and smri 's main Canal was the vehicle that everybody

[56:30] wanted to use to uh get this water off of their land and so we've been working

[56:35] with smri uh from the beginning to work with them to use their infrastructure to

[56:41] to find ways of getting uh drainage water off the land and back into the

[56:45] river system so there were seven projects

[56:50] identified in this study um back in 2014 and roughly 668

[56:56] Million worth of projects and upgrades to the smri main Canal system to to

[57:01] alleviate drainage or to help uh get the drainage issue the the flooding issues

[57:06] off of the land and into the into the horse into the um smri main canal and

[57:11] the first of those projects was the horsefly Regional Emergency

[57:15] Spillway the second is the Sherburn Spillway in Reservoir expansion and

[57:19] Sherburn is uh if you don't know is south of The Grassy Lake

[57:23] area and then the third project was MRI main Canal drain Inlet pump stations and

[57:29] you see the little circles with P along the the canal that's what those projects

[57:32] are and it's basically if you want to call it hotspots that simply setting up

[57:38] a pump and uh you could by setting up a pump there you can get the water off the

[57:42] land and into the smri main Canal four is uh chin Reservoir

[57:47] expansion and you chin is a big lake south of tabber south of Barnwell area

[57:53] it's big lake uh reservoir on the SMR uh system the solder Reservoir Spillway

[58:01] which is just west of medison hat here Murray Reservoir expansion which is I'm

[58:07] sure you're all aware of that one which is south and west of medicon hat and

[58:11] then the Paradise Creek dry Dam and uh those are the the projects were

[58:16] identified in this uh study that was done that would help uh with mitigating

[58:21] the flooding effects that happen and there's been uh flooding um

[58:27] in this region there's been flooding in the leftridge region we've in the MD of

[58:31] tab have had certain events that have caused a lot of Overland flooding and

[58:35] and these projects were all identified to help throughout the whole region deal

[58:40] with uh flooding

[58:45] issues so if you go to the next one economic

[58:49] factors irrigation is the largest industry in southern Al Southern Alberta

[58:53] and several Industries either directly or indirectly benefit from the success

[58:57] of irrigation the smri main Canal uh serves about a half a million Acres of

[59:03] irrigated Farmland in Southern Alberta and the water as you probably are aware

[59:07] is uh comes up out of the states and uh is um held in numerous reservoirs

[59:15] between here and between the headwaters and down here in medison hat

[59:20] area the irrigation enables Farmland to produce high value specially crops that

[59:25] support the food processing and livestock industry in Alberta without uh

[59:30] irrigation water Southern Alberta is pretty dry and Dryland crops would be

[59:34] the only uh crops that you'd be able to grow here grains and oil seeds and those

[59:38] sort of things the fact that we're able to have irrigation has developed both

[59:43] the livestock industry and special crops Industries in in our area um sugar beets

[59:49] being one of the first that were brought into the area and that as a as a result

[59:54] of uh water being available for for Crop Production since then uh lots of other

[1:00:01] specialy crops hybrid canola potatoes uh onions you you can go on and name it and

[1:00:07] there's lots of crops that are grown in this area and in the region because of

[1:00:12] irrigation the AGA food processing centers rely on crops grown between the

[1:00:17] Lethbridge and Medicine Hat Corridor so all these companies whether it's

[1:00:20] Atlantic sugar um Cavendish farms for potatoes B BAS and numerous uh hybrid

[1:00:27] canola companies they all came to the Southern Alberta as a result of water

[1:00:32] and the security of water knowing that year after year their producers would

[1:00:37] have enough water to be able to grow the crops that they could produce the

[1:00:41] produce the or process the crops that they they process if we didn't have that

[1:00:46] water and the security of the water it would be a different landscape here in

[1:00:51] Southern Alberta for sure some of the notable ones that we've

[1:00:56] I've just mentioned McCain's Foods Cavendish Farm lamb Weston they all

[1:01:00] process potatoes host is frolle uh again potatoes and corn products Roger sugar

[1:01:07] Cana Foods bondwell it's not bondwell any longer it's called norter but frozen

[1:01:12] vegetables Maple Lea Maple Leaf Foods hog hog processing and sunrise poultry

[1:01:17] chicken processing and then Beef Processing and uh on top of the Beef

[1:01:22] Processing is the the feed Lots again require water water for their animals

[1:01:28] and water for the crops that they grow to to feed to their

[1:01:33] animals so the risk is if a major storm event uh happened and we didn't have

[1:01:40] ways of dealing with all the the the flood waters could result in the the

[1:01:45] loss or the breaking of the smri main Canal which which cut off the

[1:01:49] availability of water both to irrigate land and to process the the crops that

[1:01:55] are grown on the irrigated land failure of the canal would impact

[1:01:59] Farmers food processors and several industries that are secondary or

[1:02:02] tertiary or farming and food processing in the lathbridge of medicon hat

[1:02:06] Corridor failure of the canal would create losses to the Alberta economy in

[1:02:11] 2021 Lethbridge County itself estimated the agriculture sector within the region

[1:02:16] contributed $3.7 billion to the economy and that's and that's huge for Southern

[1:02:21] Alberta it's a lot of uh Pro a lot of uh Agriculture and

[1:02:27] processing um cont contributions to the economy our region wouldn't be what it

[1:02:33] what it is today without agricultural without the agricultur industry and the

[1:02:38] availability of water to grow these specialty

[1:02:41] crops failure of the canal also increases a risk of losing poble water

[1:02:45] to many of the areas in the region most of the communities between Lethbridge

[1:02:49] and down here in Medicine Hat rely on uh that smri as their Canal as their source

[1:02:55] of raw water for their pable for their water treatment

[1:03:05] plants so the status of the projects um the reservoir solder Reservoir Spillway

[1:03:11] uh SMR took that one on by itself they upgraded and Gary can probably tell you

[1:03:16] better than I did what exactly they did but they upgraded or replaced the

[1:03:19] spillway uh that would drain water out of the canal and put it puts it back

[1:03:24] into the sou Saskatchewan River chin Reservoir expansion smri is also

[1:03:29] taking that project on as a part of the irrigation Expansion Project that the

[1:03:34] government of Alberta is encouraging uh this is a huge project uh

[1:03:39] they'll be adding about five miles to the length of the uh uh Reservoir as

[1:03:44] well as raising the level of the reservoir and I'm not sure how many acre

[1:03:47] feet that actually works out to but um the smri has taken that uh project on

[1:03:55] all so and they're doing again through government funding and different sources

[1:04:00] they're able to get that project done in December of 2022 the first the

[1:04:07] phase one of the horsefly Regional Emergency

[1:04:10] Spillway was started and that project comes out of Taber Lake and dumps uh

[1:04:16] water in an emergency back down into the Old Man River phase two of that project

[1:04:22] transfers water between uh the horsefly res resir which is south of tabber and

[1:04:27] Taber Lake which is right at tabber and phase three of the project which got

[1:04:31] underway this past fall can take about half of the water

[1:04:35] out of the smri smri main canal and divert it through horsefly Lake through

[1:04:41] Taber Lake and dumps the water can dump the water back into the Old Man River

[1:04:45] and what that does for everybody Downstream of uh this turnout at

[1:04:51] horsefly the the canal is then about if it was running right full it would take

[1:04:57] half the water out of the main out of the canal and that leaves half the water

[1:05:01] half the Canal's availability to pick up drainage water further east of of that

[1:05:05] turnout which is about five six miles south of tabber so anywhere anybody east

[1:05:12] of that turnout then has the canal can has more capacity to be able to take

[1:05:16] drainage water off of the land and um put it into the canal for conveyance

[1:05:21] further down the project um and into some of these other reservoirs right and

[1:05:27] this would have been very helpful in the floods of uh 2018 when we had um we had

[1:05:33] hired 40 some excavators and we're trying to bail out the snow in the

[1:05:38] canals um uh from 40 Mile Dam down to solder uh to get to our our our um

[1:05:47] solder Dam um solder Spillway that would have been able to take the water to the

[1:05:53] river um we were were very close we we did have some breaches um of that Canal

[1:05:59] that time but had that Canal washed out um in that stretch between Tab and and

[1:06:05] 40 mile that means everything down from that would have been could have gone

[1:06:11] through the summer um without the water needed to start crops until we got that

[1:06:16] repaired and up and running so a lot of times when when those type of events

[1:06:21] happen it's not just below that event but also up up from it so we wouldn't

[1:06:27] have been able to operate probably from um chin Dam down because there you

[1:06:33] couldn't regulate that flow in that Canal so that's the kind of event that

[1:06:38] that this is going to help uh prevent and uh protect our infrastructure um so

[1:06:44] that we have that water security we

[1:06:48] need okay so the next one on the uh project on the list is Sherburn Sherburn

[1:06:53] Spillway and Reservoir expansion again expanding the Sherburn Reservoir which

[1:06:58] is south of gry lake so that it could hold more water in the event of a of a

[1:07:02] flood more water could be diverted in there uh we've talked about the main

[1:07:07] Canal drain Inlet pumping stations those are the little peas um circled peas

[1:07:12] along the along the uh main Canal Murray Reservoir and expansion the same idea

[1:07:17] Murray Reservoir would be expanded with so that there would be room in the case

[1:07:22] of spring flood events or or summer flooding uh events that more water could

[1:07:26] be stored in Murray Reservoir get the get the water off the

[1:07:30] land and into these reservoirs Paradise Creek dry dam is a proposed project that

[1:07:35] is in the and I'm going to have to let maybe let Gary explain exactly where it

[1:07:39] is but it's at in in the Cypress Hills areas

[1:07:45] picture and uh so that the Paradise Creek dry Dam would be the last Pro not

[1:07:50] necessarily the last project in order of getting them done it's just the way

[1:07:53] they're on on the paper the horsefly Regional uh emergency

[1:07:58] Spillway uh was chosen as the first project of the seven projects outlined

[1:08:05] because they the technical committee which is uh

[1:08:09] um members of Staff of uh all all the partners that are involved in the

[1:08:14] project they're the ones that thought that that project would give the most

[1:08:18] benefit to the whole region versus any of the others and I'm not sure where

[1:08:22] we're going to go next as far as the next project but uh horsefly was picked

[1:08:26] first because it was it provided the biggest bang for the buck over the whole

[1:08:31] region the next slide is uh a list of the partners that that are in part of

[1:08:37] this project and have been since this started I think back in about 2013 we've

[1:08:42] had these Representatives around the table from all of these uh Partners St

[1:08:47] Mary River Irrigation District the town of tabber the MD at Taber the town of

[1:08:50] Cale Lethbridge County county of 40 m Cypress County and the City of medicon

[1:08:55] hat and it's it really shows uh a a lot of

[1:09:01] cooperation Regional cooperation from all of our partners to get as far as

[1:09:05] we've gotten this far and we're hoping that uh with through a governance

[1:09:11] structure that Gary is going to speak to in a few minutes we hope to keep this

[1:09:16] group together because we believe that uh collaborative and Regional

[1:09:20] Partnerships and projects like this will rece more are more likely to receive

[1:09:24] provincial in federal government uh funding going into the future and we

[1:09:28] have received a lot of funding from provincial government as well as the

[1:09:32] federal government through different programs uh isip um DF disaster

[1:09:38] mitigation adaptation funding and Industry investing in Canada

[1:09:41] infrastructure program as well as acrp and what's the other provincial one

[1:09:48] arless that we've gotten money through it just referen as a an EPA mitigation

[1:09:53] flooding mitigation Grant it was kind of a onetime contribution but we believe

[1:09:57] that working together regionally uh we're more likely to get F

[1:10:02] funding for projects like this than if each municipality was working on its

[1:10:07] own so what are our next steps uh we've been working on the formal development

[1:10:13] of a government ENT entity to advocate for and support implementation of the

[1:10:17] remaining projects the regional drainage committee is seeking long-term

[1:10:21] commitment and participation in this Regional initiative and we uh uh we

[1:10:26] believe that there is many benefits to be had for uh this County Cypress County

[1:10:31] by being part of this and we're going to let Gary talk now on the government

[1:10:38] structure right while they transition with respect to those next steps that um

[1:10:43] councelor Harris just mentioned um quite candidly the council that's before us

[1:10:49] today is the reason why we're pursuing those next steps um with respect to

[1:10:53] establishing and governing some sort of governing entity that ensures

[1:10:57] participation from all part all Partners so just I think that's notable in terms

[1:11:01] of the the audience that we're in front of

[1:11:09] today okay Gary will repeat what I said yeah he took my thunder anyway so I'm

[1:11:14] going to I muted his button while he was talking um actually let's start with

[1:11:20] that picture um that you had up earlier the the

[1:11:23] the the one from from um this book here the um seaw wall book that was did a

[1:11:30] report on water basins in around our County around our area here in medicon

[1:11:36] hat so they're located right here in medicon hat and they they did this

[1:11:39] report back in 2011 this picture here if you take a

[1:11:43] look at it um kind of shows the the significance of of of what we're trying

[1:11:49] to do to this area this here is the Watershed of the seven person Creek and

[1:11:56] if you um just take your cursor straight up you'll see on the by the number three

[1:12:00] highway there bring your uh little yeah there's bu Island right there and then

[1:12:07] um if you bring that um further west and you come down um you'll see the road um

[1:12:14] the highway there the 8 um

[1:12:20] 885 uh or 879 I guess that's the one that goes out to form most so that kind

[1:12:27] of gives you an idea how far you are and just the bottom edge of that you'll see

[1:12:31] Highway 69 61 on the bottom so that's that's mini berries there so that just

[1:12:36] gives you an idea on how big this watered is coming through um two s

[1:12:41] persons Creek um there's Murray Lake there so all that water um when it melts

[1:12:47] comes around that direction and um it just kind of gives you an idea on how

[1:12:51] things um how big that area is that we're talking how much is um impacted by

[1:12:57] um what we're trying to do here

[1:13:02] um just for reference up by the just up there's that three just above on that

[1:13:08] little creek there right about there or just a little bit hair P back is um the

[1:13:14] Seven Persons Dam um when we had the flooding back in

[1:13:19] 20111 in uh Cypress County um we uh the Cypress County

[1:13:25] County declared a state of an emergency um that Creek there was flooding and uh

[1:13:30] 41 uh properties were uh given evacuation orders that little Dam there

[1:13:37] did breach um seven person's uh Dam Silver Lake is also another name for it

[1:13:44] um that used to be part of our works uh at SM and when I say hour I'm going to

[1:13:49] be talking on behalf of SM because it's an old habit I have um being from there

[1:13:55] but um we don't use that anymore but that that um that did breach and and

[1:14:01] there was some flooding coming down that Creek um the other thing that's along

[1:14:05] that s person Creek was the um we have um three golf courses further in um

[1:14:14] we've got the um Desert Bloom we got Cottonwood and we've got the par 3 and

[1:14:20] um during this flooding event um they all suffered damage to that

[1:14:26] um if you just come up by Murray Lake um wording there and and just yeah just

[1:14:32] right a little bit further over you'll see there's a there that's the um

[1:14:37] that's the the paradise um Creek so that's about where that dry Dam would be

[1:14:44] situated when we had that flooding in 2011 um we had flows not only coming

[1:14:51] into 7 persons uh uh into Murray Lake and eventually some bur's Creek from the

[1:14:58] Pagan from the below but we also had a big tertial uh flood come through the

[1:15:05] the paradise there and that joins um seven person Creek right about um where

[1:15:11] the old hay plant is um if you kind of know that area so those are the two

[1:15:17] areas we're talking about in your region right now um also just as reference the

[1:15:25] the solder uh Dam Spillway that we did that was um we we've got that one

[1:15:31] completed and that was um right on the edge of your county um but what it did

[1:15:36] is it it safety safety that spill water coming from that direction um entering

[1:15:43] into the county so it it alleviates that water and and let's lets it go down to

[1:15:49] the river so that it um doesn't come into to the county and do extra D damage

[1:15:55] that

[1:15:57] way excuse me um the other thing to that just for um information wise um 2010 the

[1:16:07] year previous to that um medicine at did have another flood come around on the um

[1:16:14] out of the Cypress Hills and it came around um from the U other side yep um

[1:16:21] that's the Ross Creek Side and um there was uh uh a reported $54 million Damage

[1:16:28] Done in Medicine Hat when that uh flood came through so two major events in that

[1:16:35] Watershed within 2 years so um you know this isn't a one in 100 flood anymore

[1:16:42] you know when you see stuff like that um it it can happen

[1:16:46] anytime um 2018 was another flood and we that um we worked on that main Canal

[1:16:54] between uh 40 mile in and solder to get that

[1:16:58] water opened up too so um um the other the other one that comes

[1:17:04] to mind in 2010 we also had a flood in up in uh Lethbridge where um we suffered

[1:17:10] $3 million damage to the uh infrastructure of St Mary's and we were

[1:17:15] able to the the county did have a state of emergency and we were able to get um

[1:17:21] disaster funding to help fix up the canal after that event so these uh I

[1:17:28] guess my message is that these can um events can happen anywhere they can be

[1:17:33] significant and they can be you know they can come fast and and

[1:17:38] and more often than you think so that's just a a bit of a background to see you

[1:17:43] know what what we're talking about here and what we're trying to

[1:17:47] achieve so then I'll um I'll switch over to the presentation that uh I'd want to

[1:17:52] talk about so Merl talked mostly about what we've done in the past and I'm

[1:17:58] going to I'm here today to kind of talk about what we're doing now and and what

[1:18:03] we're um and what we're going to

[1:18:08] uh what we've built and what we're going to achieve here in the next year so

[1:18:16] um so we we we got a a vision here a govern governing

[1:18:22] entity um that we that we um proposed to um uh for the group um

[1:18:30] this came um at basically as as Arlo said this this is at the request of

[1:18:37] Cypress County because their funding um that they were willing to provide uh as

[1:18:43] per their motions uh requested that everybody stayed in until all the

[1:18:48] projects were done until the end so we had to Pro we had to build a a

[1:18:53] governance system that would keep everyone involved included and um until

[1:18:59] we got all seven projects finished so um it it's you're a big reason why we've

[1:19:06] got this on the table here today and we were able to use that uh leverage to get

[1:19:11] this done and and um and I think we've got a a a document here that everybody's

[1:19:16] felt comfortable to sign and um I'll I'll walk through that with you a little

[1:19:22] bit so this entity is um is to become an advocating body and and project and a

[1:19:31] project Implement implementation body um it's partnering with

[1:19:38] smri and the municipalities um it identifies and uh solidifies long-term

[1:19:45] timelines to ensure uh complete completion of all seven

[1:19:52] projects um we want to ensure that the final construction is something that

[1:19:57] smrd can use as they will be taking on operations and maintenance of this uh

[1:20:04] what after it's completed um is to to ensure Financial

[1:20:09] structure and um that the ex expenditures are uh

[1:20:14] significant and uh that they achieve the Full Construction build out on time and

[1:20:20] on budget um

[1:20:26] so when we started um we had um the MD Taber apply for Grant and received a

[1:20:33] grant uh from the Alberta Community Partnerships Grant um we hired water

[1:20:38] smart to facilitate Workshop style discussions we started those discussions

[1:20:45] in uh April of 2023 with our first workshops and then

[1:20:51] um we at those workshops we had both administrated and electric officials

[1:20:56] working

[1:20:58] alongside um and we had them from each of the municipal Partners in the

[1:21:04] irrigation districts um our last Workshop was of

[1:21:08] January 2024 so last year around this time we finished up on this and then

[1:21:15] um so what did we uh what did we do at those those um those workshops

[1:21:23] um we jointly drafted an agreement and we addressed the concerns as we reviewed

[1:21:30] feedback from our partners and we made some

[1:21:33] edits um we have some um exciting edits here probably since the last time we

[1:21:40] talked to you um we we came up with a few things from the the request of um

[1:21:46] the partners involved we have now gone to a fixed pledge

[1:21:52] um um um fixed amount of of of funds asked um

[1:21:59] with a 2% inflation rate that ties back to the 2023 cost

[1:22:06] um the where everybody got nervous is when

[1:22:10] we had the inflation of of the 2023 discussion um Everybody uh thought this

[1:22:17] thing was going to be a runaway on us and so we we instead of trying to do a

[1:22:21] percentage of the grants asked for we're we're going to a St St where um we just

[1:22:26] pledged the monies um uh you'll see the monies there that we're asking and

[1:22:32] then and then we go look for the grant funding to uh get the projects

[1:22:38] completed um we've got the second uh portion that we um that I alluded to

[1:22:44] earlier um we've got uh we've asked SMR to to um come forward with all the

[1:22:51] maintenance costs in the future so there's no risk there to to your

[1:22:55] counties and your your councils into the future that you're tying something to

[1:22:59] these um these funds that's going to be a runaway these are hard numbers that we

[1:23:05] we propose and um and this is all we ask

[1:23:09] for and the other part of of this agreement is that these funds remain

[1:23:15] with you until uh called on we get we give you these uh this schedule just so

[1:23:20] you can do some budgeting on your side but they're hard numbers that you can

[1:23:24] use and um and this is what you can expect if we don't get the projects

[1:23:30] funded if we don't find the grants for them we won't be asking um for your

[1:23:35] funds until we find that grant funding to match um the projects

[1:23:41] so um so I'm just going to jump

[1:23:51] away kind of run from memory here and got off my script a little bit but um

[1:23:56] you can yeah there's probably a good one to be so

[1:24:01] um so the the

[1:24:08] partners uh the partners are defined to those who have contributed or are

[1:24:13] contractual committed to the provincial funding uh to provide Financial contri

[1:24:20] contribution to the projects

[1:24:26] all partners are represented in its to in this

[1:24:32] entity thank

[1:24:44] you um the the

[1:24:50] need we need the entity to be formalized and operation in a timely manner we uh

[1:24:57] we will execute the remaining projects existing in

[1:25:01] the project implementation

[1:25:06] plan uh two projects um will be executed by SM U one

[1:25:13] is already complete the solder uh shoot as we talked about um SM built uh spent

[1:25:22] uh close to 12 million in that that in the in the build and then uh um securing

[1:25:27] that Dam with an extra toe on the bottom um the chin Reservoir um we're we're

[1:25:35] working on that um they've been working on that dilcy they're on the regulatory

[1:25:41] process right now um we're about three years into that um we did do um a

[1:25:47] replacement uh last year of the

[1:25:52] um of the Inlet uh Canal um there's a u if you're

[1:25:59] wanting to go to a website there's a um documentation of of that um so you can

[1:26:07] follow along if if you feel I feel like you'd like to

[1:26:13] um so that's uh the inlets into the into the chin Dam um so that'll give us more

[1:26:20] capacity out of the Bain canal and uh get more water into

[1:26:26] um so that that's um been built and will come in uh this

[1:26:36] spring um so there yeah there's uh there's going to be an um Conduit on the

[1:26:43] west D that we need to um rebuild and and um that was built back in the 50s so

[1:26:50] we're um taking that on and that's going to be part part of that new design um we

[1:26:56] will be um building a new East Dam um about 5 miles further east and

[1:27:05] then um at at U we also will be raising the whole um lake so we will be needing

[1:27:13] cooperation from Alberta transportation to uh redo the U Bridge across the dam

[1:27:19] there on that side had to be Highway 36 uh um Bridge

[1:27:26] um uh we got the the committee is currently in the process of uh

[1:27:31] constructing the horse FL um Regional Spillway and and merlet talked about

[1:27:36] that um The Entity would would end um once these projects are complete and and

[1:27:45] I'll just say unless it becomes a useful tool

[1:27:50] because there's always there's already been ideas of maybe using this entity in

[1:27:56] um trying to get pable water out to different regions and or uh Wastewater

[1:28:02] um so if we have that collaboration and we're seeing success this could turn

[1:28:07] into to a different entity that that could be useful into the future so we're

[1:28:14] we're hoping that we can lead by example on that

[1:28:21] um so then we'll go to the government's governance

[1:28:27] model maybe just down one there it's not no it's not in there okay so

[1:28:34] sorry financials contribution

[1:28:48] then yeah I just see it up there we got to run ahead then to the numbers please

[1:28:55] or back back where you back with the numbers were little one more one one

[1:29:02] more okay so this is um what we talked about earlier

[1:29:08] um so the as you can see here um the um 140

[1:29:17] um 140,000 per partner another $5,000 for the administration fee per year so

[1:29:24] be 145 or six depending if just average up but the part and thing here on this

[1:29:31] slide is to show the um the equal percentage throughout all the partners

[1:29:36] and um this is actually less of a percentage of the first ass of horsefly

[1:29:42] um to the to the four major counties um but what it has done and has brought the

[1:29:47] percentage up on coldale and Taber um smaller entities but at the same time um

[1:29:53] willing to be protect participate because they see the importance of this

[1:29:56] um this project when we uh did the um Horse Life

[1:30:01] Project funding there was a lot of discussion who should pay what etc etc

[1:30:06] and back when we started with horsefly uh it was agreed that the municipalities

[1:30:11] would take on 15% the towns would take on 10% and the city 5% so what the AR's

[1:30:20] group has done the on the um uh admin ministrative side when they got together

[1:30:25] they just said are we Partners or we not partners and there they the decision or

[1:30:30] the discussion surrounded let's all be equal partners and that's why it's

[1:30:35] 14.29% instead of 1510 and five is that group AR's group said let's just be

[1:30:41] partners and then that way everybody's paying the exact same thing everybody's

[1:30:46] getting benefits out of this program out of these projects so let's just all be

[1:30:50] partners rather than uh dividing it 15 10 and 5% and like I said that brings up

[1:30:57] the the like I said the city of Medicine Hat would have paid 5% and now they're

[1:31:01] at 14.29 just like uh we were asking 15% from the Cypress County and now you're

[1:31:07] 14.29 so everybody's paying the same thing all the partners are in it in it

[1:31:11] equal now and and that it just makes it easier is everybody still in from the

[1:31:19] original group I thought there was more than seven people involved or seven

[1:31:24] areas we have letters of commitment from all of our partners uh except for one uh

[1:31:30] we we've made this presentation to the city of Medicine Hat and in December

[1:31:35] they made a motion to come in and be a partner on part of this one that we is

[1:31:39] still out outstanding and we still have the intent to go and visit them again is

[1:31:44] the county 40 mile they are the only ones that have are still sitting on the

[1:31:48] edge and we haven't got a definite commitment from them yet we have visited

[1:31:55] them and and there's been some changes from their concerns that they're the

[1:31:58] ones that push for the maintenance on the main Canal uh for ask them to do so

[1:32:02] we did get that done they also we also got a hard number since we visited with

[1:32:07] them last you know to to be able to budget and and not have those uh runaway

[1:32:12] costs um for future uh councils to worry about was the city of lathbridge

[1:32:20] involved in the beginning the city of lathbridge is never been involved they

[1:32:24] won't take our meetings we we had one good meeting with the current mayor and

[1:32:29] he knew the issue and he knew the he knew the uh benefits to their their city

[1:32:36] um of course as you all know they're kind of in the middle of that exhibition

[1:32:39] thing right now so it was a bad time to maybe talk to them um until they get

[1:32:45] that I I will tell you that we have had discussions with

[1:32:51] mlaas um around their area that want them to be part of this U initiative so

[1:32:59] I think once we have it signed we haven't given up on the the hope to have

[1:33:04] those meetings and and have maybe a bit of pressure from the mlaas to help them

[1:33:10] help us get in get them included in that and then these percentages would go down

[1:33:16] one thing about this with Medicine Hat when we we got their um got them on

[1:33:22] board we they agreed to come back with their original contribution to um

[1:33:28] horsefly Spillway also so they've been as if they were in from the beginning

[1:33:34] they'll provide the funding asked for from them as partners as they've been

[1:33:38] along with us the whole time so uh they agreed to do that and um are willing to

[1:33:44] to see this uh be uh completed to the end so as Gary mentioned earlier when

[1:33:52] you're committing the4 40 uh $5,000 a year plus 2% inflation

[1:33:58] over the years just so that uh it it gives you guys a number that you can

[1:34:03] budget annually you know that your contribution is going to be 145,000 plus

[1:34:07] 2% every year ending up at about 212,000 contribution in year 20 and that uh that

[1:34:15] gets that money gets to stick in your bank account until this committee calls

[1:34:18] for it and we'd only call for it once the project has been tendered and the

[1:34:22] and the tender has been awarded and that's when your Municipal contribution

[1:34:26] would be required and we'd only tender if we get the grant funding and yeah we

[1:34:31] don't we don't go ahead with any project that we don't have the money for and uh

[1:34:36] it uh takes a lot of um time on Administration behalf to apply for

[1:34:41] Grants and those sort of things but that's that's where we got to that's

[1:34:44] where we are today is we got grant funding from the two different levels of

[1:34:48] government and our municipalities and the smid to to start the horse fly

[1:34:53] project and uh like I said I'm not sure which

[1:34:56] one is going to be next that we've kind of left that up to the technical

[1:34:59] committee to to think to decide which is the next most beneficial project to

[1:35:03] start with but until we have the grant funding in place we don't tender a

[1:35:09] project and we don't have to make your contribution but you know that uh based

[1:35:14] on today's numbers you would be looking at 14588 to plus 2% interest or

[1:35:20] inflation I should say each year uh as your contribution when the time comes

[1:35:25] that we actually call for the money so yeah if you move up a slide that or two

[1:35:30] it shows another question from somebody here no to the chair so you talk about

[1:35:34] the grant funding I was just kind of curious what kind of percentage are you

[1:35:37] looking for when it comes to the grant funding like to get to be involved I

[1:35:42] mean to be to make it go forward well well again we're we're not

[1:35:48] proposing this as a percentage we're proposing it as more of a pledge and

[1:35:52] then we go look for the gr funding to finish it so this is your hard number

[1:35:56] here um this is this is your ask uh scroll up

[1:36:03] uh no the way you're going is good one more right there so that shows you how

[1:36:09] the inflationary part of it works that's the number that inflates in 20 years but

[1:36:14] this is your only ask then we go looking for federal and and preventional funding

[1:36:18] to fill the Gap to the so that's what I mean by a pledge there is no moreone

[1:36:23] money asking here I understand that but I'm just curious of what what Grant are

[1:36:28] you you know looking for to even carry on start the project with like I mean

[1:36:32] are you hoping to get you know 20% of it or 10% of the total cost

[1:36:38] or I'm not sure if you understand what I mean

[1:36:41] but I think I understand I mean as always the goal would be to get as much

[1:36:46] as possible I think generally lot lots of the provincial programs are a 7030

[1:36:52] cost share breakdown I can speak only specifically to the

[1:36:56] horsefly Spillway project and we're sitting at about a 80 to 85% grant

[1:37:02] funding uh level there so much better than the 7030 but we've been able to

[1:37:07] achieve it's about 82 or 83% grant funding and that's a

[1:37:12] combination of Federal Grant and provincial

[1:37:16] Grant they they also we're going to get to the the the amount that SM is um is

[1:37:23] contributing to this but they're also now allowing the purchase price of the

[1:37:29] um land to be part of our pledge so that'll help the the initial grants

[1:37:34] weren't that way but now they're letting us do that and I think we were able to

[1:37:38] stack a few grants to to to bring that percentage

[1:37:41] up Robin thank you um I just need Clarity on one thing with with the

[1:37:47] pledge system I like that that sounds great um what I'm trying to understand

[1:37:52] because I don't believe that this is a 20e buildout so how does the Pledge part

[1:37:58] work with you know um essentially if you get the the grant funding that you're

[1:38:05] looking for but it happens sooner than the the the pledges coming in how does

[1:38:10] that

[1:38:14] reconcile the idea was that we could get these all done in in a 20-year time

[1:38:19] frame we were hoping to do one every five years and like uh the the pumping

[1:38:24] station uh pumping Inlet stations that's a small one it's like $2 million that

[1:38:28] one's not a big deal probably Murray would be the next biggest I I don't know

[1:38:32] which is the most expensive after the one we're actually working on but the

[1:38:36] timeline we were hoping to do one project every within a time a fiveyear

[1:38:40] time frame and so hopefully by putting 20 years on this that's like I said

[1:38:45] that's what your contribution is and we just have to fund raise them to to to

[1:38:50] make up the rest I think that if I remember correctly MAF would do 40% of

[1:38:55] the project arlos and the acrp was um it worked out to about

[1:39:02] 73% uh grant funding and we've been able to get more actually than the than the

[1:39:08] 73% I think I think you said we're about 83% right now on the horse project but

[1:39:14] what we what we're trying to do here is solidify what the ask is

[1:39:19] for municipalities and then it's up to the

[1:39:22] committee whoever that committee is uh in the future to get the fundrais to do

[1:39:27] the fundraising with the provincial and federal government to make up the

[1:39:31] rest I I think the other thing to remember is in the agreement you are at

[1:39:36] the table so you can regulate how fast you want to go on this too right so um

[1:39:42] it's not necessarily that cuz you are part of the committee you know that in

[1:39:47] there too so it it'll be the appetite of the people involved but this was trying

[1:39:51] to give a number so that people could go out and

[1:40:03] budget okay anybody else have any questions at this

[1:40:16] point so again we we um we took the 2023 um numbers now these would have had

[1:40:24] a quite an inflation jump when we you know through Co and all the rest but we

[1:40:29] took this as a as a hard number then and and add the the 2% to it

[1:40:35] so we're pretty sure we can sell this to um the feds and the province as a pledge

[1:40:42] and and be able to get the grant funding to to get these um projects

[1:40:51] completed um go to the next slide then um so this is um the SM um

[1:41:00] Financial contribution um they uh they did

[1:41:05] complete the solder Spillway there was another $2 million they put on top of

[1:41:09] that um to uh to get that project done um the chin expansion um well they'll be

[1:41:18] it'll be uh well over that now as we got into the regulatory side of things and

[1:41:23] understand the the different uh um the East End when they started doing the

[1:41:30] exploratory um drilling to see what they're building on it's going to be

[1:41:35] quite a Quite a feat to get that that damn built um they've we when we did the

[1:41:44] initial uh phase one of of uh horse fly Spillway we we still hadn't had City

[1:41:50] Madison hat on board and and um we we kind of could see things falling apart

[1:41:57] with all our partners so I went back to SM and asked for this one and a half

[1:42:01] million to get that project finished um so they they did that and um they're um

[1:42:09] also doing the the land uh purchases um uh which is yeah over a million

[1:42:17] dollars on that they're working on right now phase two which is the most

[1:42:21] congested from um the the Roger sugar South now to um to

[1:42:29] um to the horse fly down there so

[1:42:34] um they uh also as I've told you before they they've um they're working on their

[1:42:40] commitment to um to do um the the um cost to do the

[1:42:51] the uh to upkeep on on the on the canal uh the operating costs um and

[1:42:58] they're estimating that to be about 250 a year

[1:43:07] um the the master G does not propose a instance um for large scale emergency

[1:43:14] disaster causing um significant infrastructure damage so

[1:43:20] this this is talking to when we ask the counties to help us um to go look for

[1:43:27] disaster funding from The Province when we have a ma a major

[1:43:31] um major wreck on our main Canal so much the same way would would be for the uh

[1:43:37] for the spillway then

[1:43:42] too okay so go to the next slide please

[1:43:55] okay so we um so we uh we've got the the plan now

[1:44:00] and and we've gone around to um all our partners um except for for M we got to

[1:44:05] get back to them again um um we've got the the master agreement and um imp

[1:44:12] we'll have the implementation plan um to have a the preliminary uh

[1:44:20] timeline um and then um like I said roughly 20

[1:44:26] years um the plan is to be

[1:44:32] um uh amended by the MCC once formalized

[1:44:42] um so from that um we're we're moving from the the planning stage then into

[1:44:48] the uh into the implementation side uh the capital comp uh contributions

[1:44:54] request uh for the project approximately every 5 years so as we talked about here

[1:45:01] before

[1:45:06] so okay the next slide please uh once the agreement has been uh

[1:45:13] reviewed and signed which uh again we're very close um the go governing entity

[1:45:19] will be established um will be establishing The

[1:45:24] Entity um will require approval from by all councils and partners so um again

[1:45:31] that's why we're here and and that's why we've done the um trip to all the uh the

[1:45:36] partners and and explained the presentation any questions okay I do

[1:45:43] believe there's some questions here Robin you had some more

[1:45:49] questions I did thank you gentlemen um the as I listen to the presentation and

[1:45:55] as I think back over the last few years um there been a lot of different uh you

[1:45:59] know a lot of different information that's comeing and I I I recognize that

[1:46:03] we are dealing with a you know a liability the the the uh water

[1:46:08] management the flood mitigation I see that you know as as an insurance policy

[1:46:13] um and my position has always been that you know like I I can see I can see why

[1:46:18] Taber and I can see why a lot of those communities that are in that immediate

[1:46:21] vicinity where you you know you're you're trying to mitigate the flooding

[1:46:25] but you're also able to take advantage full advantage of the water um capacity

[1:46:31] and the potential of utilizing that for the plants I think and Merl when you

[1:46:35] gave the list of some of the different businesses and and industries that are

[1:46:38] out there um all of them were in that area not necessarily down here and so

[1:46:43] I'm not blind to our potential and our and our our um where we want to go down

[1:46:48] here but I definitely see Cypress County as being 10 15 years behind behind where

[1:46:54] kind of that food Corridor in that Taber Cale Lethbridge area is and where we

[1:46:58] want to be able to go so the challenge that I have is I want to be able to

[1:47:03] communicate to our residents my residents that um in supporting this

[1:47:08] that we aren't only ticking off the Box on um trying to uh manage uh and

[1:47:14] mitigate risk on flooding which is largely happening Upstream um but that

[1:47:19] we're also able to provide them for this equal part parip that we're

[1:47:24] in some form of opportunity which I recognize is provided through smeared

[1:47:29] and and you're not standing here representing smeared currently but

[1:47:32] making sure that we have the ability to benefit and to be able to uh utilize

[1:47:37] some of this additional water storage and so early on that was kind of a part

[1:47:42] of the conversation I'm just curious to know where we're at with that now um are

[1:47:46] we still in a position where smear disc may be communicated what kind of

[1:47:50] potential capacity we'd be looking at and what that would translate to as far

[1:47:54] as like Cypress County and potential for more irrigation down the road or are we

[1:47:59] as kind of the the last guys on the on the uh the line um kind of in the

[1:48:05] partnership more from a pure risk mitigation standpoint it's pretty direct

[1:48:11] question but I just I'm I I need to know kind of where we're at with that right

[1:48:16] um yeah and thanks for the question I as you know I'm an advocate to to Bringing

[1:48:23] industry in Agri food to medicat to Cypress County and um I see this as as

[1:48:31] being twofold in the fact that the the flood

[1:48:35] um proofing that we're doing here or the the the mitigation that we're doing here

[1:48:41] to help make sure that those infrastructures remain in place so that

[1:48:46] that industry can come to CPUs County and and be assured that that water is

[1:48:51] available and won't be interrupted second fold to that is is

[1:48:57] the the Murray Lake in particular will be bigger to hold more

[1:49:03] drainage water but there will be times that it would could hold more water um

[1:49:10] that won't be wasted when when we have rain events and all the sprinklers shut

[1:49:16] down and and there's a place for that water to be stored and be used by US

[1:49:21] down this way this ties excuse me this ties

[1:49:26] in perhaps with the discussion we're having on on the U uh cabin Lake

[1:49:32] discussion and and and putting more Acres out that direction if that happens

[1:49:38] it becomes all of St Mary at in one and the expansion acres are there to be used

[1:49:43] everywhere so if there's opportunities down here it certainly can be used for

[1:49:48] that um second to that I have had conversations with Agri food industry

[1:49:56] pointing to Seven Persons in particular right by Murray Lake as a great place to

[1:50:01] set up shop um because of the Railway because of the of the lake

[1:50:08] itself for winter water and use um to to run a plant much like the ones along

[1:50:14] Highway 3 um potential for Lane actually in

[1:50:19] three directions East West and North from here so um I I

[1:50:26] have been that's my vision I guess to see for and what I've put out there to

[1:50:32] um people interested in coming here to set up shop for that Agra aggra food

[1:50:37] industry second to that um Cypress county is a big County and if people are

[1:50:45] going to um the Acres used there there's

[1:50:49] there's many many acres of of grassland and and

[1:50:53] um but this potential Corridor is where your Agra food Hub is going to be and

[1:50:59] the potential growth is right here too so it will affect all of those Acres but

[1:51:05] the the tax benefit coming from that um that growth will come from that Corridor

[1:51:11] right in through here so if that answers your

[1:51:16] question um Merill had some good discussions too yeah

[1:51:22] um about 19 months ago I was invited to participate in a tour of Southern

[1:51:28] Alberta with a major food production company out of the United States and one

[1:51:35] of the things that absolutely impressed them they were very impressed with the

[1:51:39] irrigation infrastructure that is in place in Southern Alberta they just

[1:51:43] couldn't comprehend what we're doing in Southern Alberta with irrigation putting

[1:51:49] pipeline in the ground to save water use less water by uh pipelines versus open

[1:51:55] ditches etc etc but they were really really

[1:52:00] impressed with what we're doing with this project with these projects to

[1:52:04] protect that infrastructure so that year after year

[1:52:08] if you have a bad storm event in the Cypress Hills or the MD Taber we've got

[1:52:15] away or we or we're developing a way to make sure that infrastructure doesn't

[1:52:19] get washed away for a season and that was really they were really impressed

[1:52:23] with that will Cypress County benefit from a major food processor coming to

[1:52:29] Southern Alberta I don't think it can all be in the Lethbridge area it just it

[1:52:34] can't it's it's got to start coming this way I believe because uh there's lots of

[1:52:40] land available for high value crops down here that uh in let's just say tab I'll

[1:52:47] I'll pick on Tab because that's where I'm from um there's it's already

[1:52:53] I'm not going to say totally saturated for like let's say potatoes for example

[1:52:57] but there could be a lot more of it down here if they were if they CH chose to to

[1:53:03] to come here as Gary said in for for example the seven person's region around

[1:53:08] that lake so I I think that the the benefits uh of the Agra food processing

[1:53:14] Corridor that MLA Hunter is working so hard on the benefits will come this way

[1:53:21] but like I said from my exper experience uh there this company was really

[1:53:26] impressed with what we're doing with irrigation but the fact that we're doing

[1:53:30] these projects to protect that infrastru infrastructure really impressed

[1:53:36] them any Shane through all your

[1:53:43] studies because when you come down into Cyprus County or

[1:53:46] irrigation funnels down or acreages with the expansion of M lake

[1:53:53] has there ever been how many more Acres we could actually actually irrigate

[1:53:59] because the cont you know we when you go south it rises we got the river to the

[1:54:05] north we're confined on the amount of Acres any extra Acres that we can put

[1:54:11] into irrigation because we need extra acres

[1:54:16] to bring that Agri Food business this way otherwise it's is going to stay to

[1:54:20] the West because your economics of Trucking and that because we narrow down

[1:54:25] our acreages I mean our amount of Acres irrigated here that it will stay to the

[1:54:31] West because it's just based on trucking and access because you're coming out of

[1:54:35] nle down with products and that so it's really tough

[1:54:42] so have on any of them Studies have they said how many more Acres of irrigation

[1:54:47] we could have with the expansion of Murray Lake

[1:54:52] I I don't know about the studies but what I will tell you um if you go into

[1:54:58] to Taber and and and into chin

[1:55:03] that they're not scared to push water and they'll push water and then they'll

[1:55:08] put it in a reservoir and then they'll push it out again um when you're seeing

[1:55:12] that kind of return per acre you know that you see from from the roll crops of

[1:55:18] potatoes and and sugar beads um they're not scared to to spend the money to do

[1:55:23] it you know we're we're you and I we're not used to it cuz we we grow hay and

[1:55:27] and uh we have the FED Lots you know but uh but that industry those those Farmers

[1:55:34] they you know I I know of three that have bought land down here in the last

[1:55:39] year so I'm I'm not um I'm very confident that they have no problem

[1:55:45] pushing water further to the South to get up and

[1:55:50] and the um Cavin Lake Project I think is is

[1:55:55] 3,000 Acres added you know in itself so depending on how we we look at uh uh

[1:56:03] look at it I I don't think there's a an issue there um if there's a way they'll

[1:56:08] find it and they'll make it

[1:56:12] work any other questions

[1:56:18] Keith what's your time frame in your estimate of getting

[1:56:25] um seeing a benefit at this part of the do we have to wait the 15 years to the

[1:56:31] 20 years to see the benefit are we going to see a benefit

[1:56:35] sooner than the tail end of the

[1:56:42] project well I I think I I was involved with with the the

[1:56:50] um the plan coming into La Bridge the potato plant there and and their Council

[1:56:56] had put the in place the place to put it and and had everything uh arranged for

[1:57:02] them to come so I think any time that you you move forward with with inviting

[1:57:10] people to come to build stuff it it's not it's it's a good thing like it it it

[1:57:15] it promotes that confidence in your area to come and invest so um I think

[1:57:22] quite honestly is is if you're looking like you're you're inviting them to come

[1:57:28] they're they're going to come and build and and they're going to bring with them

[1:57:32] all those jobs and all the Acres um that that could potentially feed that that

[1:57:40] plant or that industry um so I think I think you got to look at it more that

[1:57:46] you have to put the invite out first and then have them come rather than say Well

[1:57:52] when will they come and and we'll do it when they come they won't

[1:57:59] come any other

[1:58:05] questions I didn't ask you go ahead which is why which is why

[1:58:13] I'm not speaking so no I just wanted to make sure that um councelor C if I can

[1:58:17] see that correctly his question was um

[1:58:23] I guess considered in the right context um were you necessar were you

[1:58:28] specifically asking about the projects identified in what we've reviewed today

[1:58:33] and whether this area will see the benefit of those sooner than the 20-year

[1:58:37] buildout is that what you're asking okay I think I think the answer to that is

[1:58:42] very driven by the members of that that committee right so if you have strong

[1:58:48] representation I.E city of Medicine Hat is on board now um um closely I think

[1:58:54] Cypress county is if you have that presence I think you would see a lot

[1:58:58] quicker return in those projects being built here on the east on the East End

[1:59:04] um again that's a very poit that's that's me being speculative because I'm

[1:59:09] not an elected official I'm not I don't sit on that committee but I think being

[1:59:13] part of it will inform or better answer your

[1:59:18] question in terms of how quickly you can realize the benefit of it solder

[1:59:22] Reservoir was a project that wasn't contemplated to be sorry solder

[1:59:27] Spillway was a project that wasn't contemplated to be done as quick as it

[1:59:31] was but it was done and that benefits this end of the project or this end of

[1:59:35] the region um a lot quicker than expected so that's one project that has

[1:59:40] been completed but you look at Murray or Paradise those two particular projects I

[1:59:44] think I think have a good case to to be pushed up in the queue um once this

[1:59:50] partnership is actually form normalized so okay I hope that answers your

[1:59:54] question a little bit yeah actually your last statement kind of kind of help put

[1:59:58] that in perspective yeah again we've got uh what we call the main committee which

[2:00:03] is the elected officials and and arlos uh kind of has a loose Committee of the

[2:00:09] administrative officials and then the technical committee is is like engineers

[2:00:14] and Public Works people from um each member Community or municipality and

[2:00:20] like I said they're the ones that recommended I guess to the main

[2:00:24] committee that horsefly Spillway be done first and so uh by have Cypress County

[2:00:30] having somebody on that technical committee they can voice their opinion

[2:00:33] that no this project needs to be done next or you know like I said it was a

[2:00:37] recommendation to the main committee quite a number of years ago that

[2:00:41] horsefly be done first and that was that came from the technical committee okay

[2:00:45] so it's really us getting involved on on the on the different uh aspects of

[2:00:51] finding this yeah like I believe Dan and Richard have attended in

[2:00:57] the past some of the committee meetings I don't know about on the technical side

[2:01:01] but uh I I said each of the municipalities each town and uh

[2:01:06] municipality has had somebody representing their municipality at the

[2:01:10] technical committee working group that hashes out some of the details before it

[2:01:16] comes to the the main committee for approval okay does that make sense

[2:01:21] Richard and Robin I've always supported this project

[2:01:25] and uh I like it the way it's been coming along

[2:01:30] um there's lots more to do things besides iral IR irrigable Acres I look

[2:01:39] at vertical vertical growing because of the uh Greenhouse that's in

[2:01:47] my um my area last count they I think they employ 365 people uh lots of

[2:01:54] spin-off daily Trucking uh out of there that goes to

[2:01:59] Red Hat Red Hat employs a bunch of people I was told there's 11 trucks a

[2:02:04] day leaving Red Hat to go to Edmonton besides all the other places so you look

[2:02:10] at the spin-off there and uh you know that's just big marble being my neighbor

[2:02:16] but if they lose if the infrastructure is lost Upstream

[2:02:22] they are done cuz they totally rely on the water that they're getting for

[2:02:28] irrigation and uh they have big big ponds

[2:02:33] but I remember talking to Grant Hunter and saying well it's great to you know

[2:02:38] kind of expand the acreage there but don't forget about us here that there's

[2:02:42] such a thing as that and and who knows there there could be some more uh plans

[2:02:47] coming up eventually for vertical growing and I think we need to you're

[2:02:52] ready for that uh especially when we say we want to buy

[2:02:57] Canadian so I I think we got to really really take a look at this and also be

[2:03:03] part of it so thanks Robin thanks this is my last question um because I'm

[2:03:08] getting hungry so the uh you mentioned about uh governance and you mentioned

[2:03:14] about the main committee and the technical committee um I don't think

[2:03:17] that we went through our organizational meeting here in October and I I don't

[2:03:22] believe that we have somebody on the committee we may have participated early

[2:03:26] on you know kind of as an ad hoc type of a thing but what what is the actual

[2:03:31] structure of those committees is is it that every every member has one person

[2:03:36] that sits on that main committee is it two people how does that how does it

[2:03:39] work from a governance standpoint right at this point in time it's kind of loose

[2:03:43] okay like uh our municipality has three people that attend not

[2:03:48] necessarily they all vote but technically maybe only one of us should

[2:03:51] it's kind of loose right now and that's why we're trying to get it into an

[2:03:55] actual formal everybody would have one person there or two people there

[2:03:59] whatever the number might be so that everybody's got an equal

[2:04:03] vote the uh like I said that that's kind of the main committee like I said and

[2:04:07] then the technical one is just like I said the the city engineer the municipal

[2:04:12] uh in uh director of Municipal infrastructure

[2:04:15] whatever uh sit on a committee and like I said they work out hash out some of

[2:04:20] the I don't know they had a meeting the other day we're still working on the

[2:04:23] horsefly one and they this technical committee kind of makes sure the

[2:04:28] engineering is done and the project management is done and that that way the

[2:04:32] main committee doesn't have to do it on a day-by-day basis we have a former

[2:04:36] employee of the mdia Taber that's kind of the project manager for the horsefly

[2:04:41] project and I know he's looking to be retired he retired five years ago but we

[2:04:45] still carrying them on you know and we're just trying to get this formalized

[2:04:50] so that it's not an ad hoc group CU really that's really all it is right now

[2:04:54] is a well it's you need an army right now right you've got your practical side

[2:04:58] with which is your operations but if you're talking about the completion of

[2:05:02] the project being limited to fundraising you need you need to have that committee

[2:05:06] doing work in Edmonton you need to have that that committee doing work in Ottawa

[2:05:09] you have to be especially with a change of government coming soon um we need

[2:05:13] like to me that would be a missed opportunity and similar to Lethbridge

[2:05:17] you know taking their team Lethbridge and going up to Edmonton I see this

[2:05:21] committee needing to do something similar to that if if it's going to be

[2:05:25] Tang it it's just like you said you got to invite you actually have to go and

[2:05:29] find the funds it's not just there there aren't grants saying hey there's a

[2:05:32] Spillway Grant that's available right now so the the governance structure that

[2:05:35] Gary's talked about is formalizing what we've been doing ad hoc for 10 plus

[2:05:40] years yeah and and basically when you sign up you're signed up and the exit

[2:05:45] clause is you pay what you would have paid if you had a stayed in sort of a

[2:05:49] thing but it's formalizing it so that it's not just an ad hoc group of elected

[2:05:55] officials or technical committee that get together and move this thing along

[2:05:59] and that's really the way it's been done now is is Gary and I have just we're the

[2:06:03] co-chairs and every municipality has somebody or one you know uh the CEO

[2:06:09] comes and the elected official come the elected officials vote and that sort of

[2:06:14] stuff but it's we're trying to formalize it so that this group can stay together

[2:06:19] to get all the projects done and if it works after that to carry on doing other

[2:06:23] projects so be it otherwise at the end when the projects are all done this

[2:06:27] thing will

[2:06:31] fold okay I just have an important point that I missed there when as I went way

[2:06:39] ahead of myself and got flustered and had to calm myself down but um I just

[2:06:44] wanted to point out because you'll be going through this agreement or you'll

[2:06:47] be reading it and um the paradise is a bit of a different animal in that

[2:06:54] it's not part of the SM infrastructure and in the agreement that we have

[2:06:59] presented now it it has that we will advocate for the province to take on

[2:07:04] that structure once it's built and do the maintenance and own it and that's

[2:07:08] nothing new The Province does own dams all over the province so just wanted to

[2:07:13] point that out that because if you come upon that and reading it you you'll find

[2:07:17] that point and wonder why that's been changed but it it's just that it's not

[2:07:21] not something that SM is involved with so we're substitute simply substituting

[2:07:26] The Province for

[2:07:35] that in closing like I said thank you for the opportunity to come and uh

[2:07:39] refresh and remind you what we're doing and bring you up to speed as to what's

[2:07:43] actually happening we invite the Cypress County to be part of this we think that

[2:07:48] there's benefits for the Cypress County to be part of this group

[2:07:52] um and again we appreciate the opportunity to come and visit with you

[2:07:59] today have a great day guys thank you very

[2:08:04] much I will adjourn for lunch

[2:08:36] no okay I'll call the meeting back to order so I need a motion to take it off

[2:08:44] the table

[2:08:48] correct Lane is making motion to take what the heck was

[2:08:55] it control d control of thank you Mr reev and members of the

[2:09:01] council it occurs to me as I was listening to the discussion this morning

[2:09:05] regarding the dust control policy our current desk control policy hasn't been

[2:09:09] looked at in many years and uh I think we are making motions on

[2:09:14] fixing bits and pieces of without a comprehensive review it would be my

[2:09:18] recommendation uh that Council would direct admin ation to suspend the

[2:09:22] current policy and complete a comprehensive review of the county dust

[2:09:26] control policy and bylaws and return recommendations at the council by April

[2:09:29] the 1st which would give us plenty of time to prepare for the 2025 dust

[2:09:33] control

[2:09:35] season I will change my motion to that yes

[2:09:43] okay yes yeah he likes him Rob

[2:09:54] okay everybody's good with that oh first we got to vote on bringing it off the

[2:09:58] table

[2:10:04] correct I don't have to bring it back okay so Dustin changes his motion to

[2:10:10] what's on the screen the motion as it reads is that

[2:10:14] Council direct Administration to complete a comprehensive review of the

[2:10:18] Cypress County dust control policies and violence laws and return recommendations

[2:10:23] to council by April 1st 2025 that's the first meeting in

[2:10:28] April any

[2:10:32] questions not seeing any

[2:10:43] vote he had to run into town for something I don't know if it was an

[2:10:46] appointment or what it was theom

[2:10:52] yeah 7.3.1 Mr

[2:11:06] Taves thank you Mr re through the chair uh we're going to have um supervisor Hub

[2:11:12] walk us through the master rates

[2:11:28] good afternoon uh through the chair uh Master rates uh uh bylaw or

[2:11:34] yeah Master rates bylaw is before you council's being presented the 2025

[2:11:39] Master rate schedule the rate schedule is presented annually and establishes

[2:11:44] all rates for applicable services available including administrative

[2:11:49] Agriculture and Public Works and Utility Services the general independent rate

[2:11:56] target is to re achieve cost recovery with many rates calculated based on a

[2:12:03] 6.5% markup um I'm not going to go read the

[2:12:09] whole thing um uh the proposed rates that are before

[2:12:15] you are are aligned with the 2025 to 2029 approved budget

[2:12:22] and I will take any questions associated with

[2:12:28] it and Steve wants to say and just one one Amendment to the schedule um I would

[2:12:34] uh recommend in the motion that we strike the calcium chloride for

[2:12:39] 1462 from that schedule as that'll be coming back to

[2:12:47] council so since you're going to see it do you want to move it

[2:12:51] speak considering that's what I was going to say I will move

[2:12:55] it genius idea yeah heck of an

[2:13:01] idea okay so Blain's moving to master master rates with the removal of what

[2:13:08] number was that 14 uh with the removal of calcium

[2:13:12] chloride 1462 in the schedule a 1462 okay floor is open does anybody

[2:13:20] have any questions on

[2:13:25] these they are what they are we're doing cost recovery not much we can do about

[2:13:34] it just under the gravel a 12 bucks a t tone is that still

[2:13:40] pretty giving us enough room with the cost of how things are going crushing

[2:13:45] and everything is that still adequate through the chair yes that's uh

[2:13:53] about right we're seeing in a quite a bit lower in our production costs so

[2:13:57] it's it's a nice balance area for this

[2:14:06] year yeah C 1462 NOP that'll come back on the

[2:14:13] 1 it stays in because that take that whole thing out yeah no that'll stay in

[2:14:19] because it's already a motion that it has to go going but they're going to

[2:14:22] bring it back on the

[2:14:26] first councelor brost was asking about the rates going up on

[2:14:31] 475 but that's already a motion for The Farmstead uh

[2:14:37] residents yeah so that'll stay in that's not coming out the only one coming out

[2:14:42] is the calcium chloride

[2:14:46] 1462 any other questions on it

[2:15:00] vote it's carried uh

[2:15:08] 7.3.2 just for a clarification uh Mr chairman um if it would if Council would

[2:15:13] like they could do all three readings today or second reading or except first

[2:15:16] and we can certainly bring it back my bad no it's all it's all good no so

[2:15:21] recommended first reading that blaed it did somebody do second reading uh

[2:15:26] Keith's doing second reading just a thought sorry Mr chair if um if we end

[2:15:33] up bringing back the bylaw do we just make an amendment to the bylaw after the

[2:15:36] fact once we receive the so we would just do three readings to make Amendment

[2:15:40] to the bylaw later anyways okay but this will activate everything

[2:15:45] they need right now y Keith is moving second

[2:15:51] let see any questions

[2:15:57] vote as carried Robins moving to have third

[2:16:10] vote that's carried and Michelle is moving

[2:16:14] third vote

[2:16:21] that's carried there you go sorry about that that was

[2:16:26] my 7.3.2 Mr DAV thank you Mr chairman uh

[2:16:31] we're happy to be able to present the vehicle and Equipment disposal list to

[2:16:35] council um uh Council would have received a uh sneak peek at this while

[2:16:40] approving the vehicle and Fleet equipment replacement plan and uh from

[2:16:44] that time we had uh promised Council that we would bring it back early in

[2:16:49] 2025 and here we are um so uh Mr hubard will be uh presenting

[2:16:56] the RFD and uh Mr sh uh schmalz is here for uh some technical um discussion on

[2:17:03] the um uh units as they come up through the chair um so as Steve said

[2:17:13] upon approval of the Cypress um by um Cypress city council Cypress Council

[2:17:19] sorry that I'm uh dating myself now of the capital replacement plan of 2025 to

[2:17:26] 2029 attached is the 224 vehicle equipment listing of units

[2:17:33] available for disposal while various units are recommended for disposal the

[2:17:38] Administration has included a recommendation of units to be rained and

[2:17:44] further utilized internally so if you turn to the disposal list

[2:17:52] um we have we have uh one two tractors one John Deere one

[2:18:00] Massie four graders and the four graders have been replaced by new units that we

[2:18:05] received in 20124 um some extrication

[2:18:10] tools uh these are tools that have been replaced um with the fire service that

[2:18:16] they bought in 2024 as approved in in the 2024

[2:18:22] budget um and also an HP design jet t1200 GIS

[2:18:34] printer yeah it was just uh the other day two days ago I got a phone call

[2:18:40] about our graders when are they going to auction

[2:18:45] do you know what what they

[2:18:49] roughly um I don't have an exact date yet there are um uh auctions that we can

[2:18:54] look at now we just have to decide which auction house we're going to go to and

[2:18:57] and go into one of the spring ones the ones that auction houses we've been in

[2:19:01] contact with now have quite a bit of construction equipment in them um but it

[2:19:05] is the season to kind of get those in there and they're just sitting here so

[2:19:08] we just have to make that decision but it should be right away here in

[2:19:11] Spring okay so you got a month or two right okay thank

[2:19:18] you play yeah those gravel trucks just how many

[2:19:23] miles are on those gravel

[2:19:29] trucks the two Western

[2:19:42] Stars you have something El you just add to that do you do you dispose of them by

[2:19:48] with the based on kilometers or hours and that's just because the rap is going

[2:19:53] to ask okay it's mainly ours uh but both are

[2:19:58] factored

[2:20:09] in so the um excuse me through the chair the the mileage on those units is

[2:20:14] something are our uh Fleet or Public Works can can uh we can get that

[2:20:18] information do you think we could

[2:20:24] yeah so we can we can bring that information at some point later on in

[2:20:27] the day here to council if that's okay and are those just chassis or they the

[2:20:32] full box and everything on it's the full unit the snow equipment as well the box

[2:20:37] everything

[2:20:40] everything okay any other questions oh I forgot to get the

[2:20:48] motion I'd like to hold off on voting on this until I know the the kilometers and

[2:20:54] that on these to on these Western

[2:21:01] Stars no it makes a big to me this is important

[2:21:07] Dustin we've already replaced these trucks

[2:21:10] though so these these would be assets that have already been replaced that's

[2:21:14] why they would be going up for

[2:21:19] auction so essentially we would have voted on this last year to replace these

[2:21:24] trucks and they would have been replacing now the this is just the

[2:21:26] disposal list that we're seeing now so uh through the chair um this the

[2:21:34] Western stars were previous on the previous uh disposal list back in

[2:21:39] 2022 when it was proposed to buy the trucks at that time um so they are

[2:21:47] currently currently on the basically they they would be disposed when The

[2:21:53] Replacements come we have three Replacements truck coming um sometime

[2:21:58] during this year so th that is the reason why it is um the the three trucks

[2:22:04] are on the in the second box Fleet available for disposal upon upon

[2:22:10] replacement so they have already been approved for replacement we just we've

[2:22:15] been hanging on to them because we haven't received all the trucks

[2:22:18] yet okay I think why everybody's asking the questions is because we were selling

[2:22:22] those with such low mileage on them at one time we were trying to run them up

[2:22:27] higher I see it's 10 years old now but we were selling them every 5 years and

[2:22:32] they had barely any miles on but part of the question that's coming up is that do

[2:22:36] we need them anywhere else if they're really low

[2:22:40] mileage that's why the question's being asked or is a spare

[2:22:46] truck so the the the third the third Western Star truck has been pulled from

[2:22:52] the list and the reason it's been pulled from the list is because it's being used

[2:22:56] by the oiling crew it's been set up in such a way that it can take an oil tank

[2:23:02] and so that one of the Western Stars we're holding back for that it we've

[2:23:07] just recently done a transmission rebuild on that for 20K the assumption

[2:23:11] is that we with the transmission build that it'll extend the life three

[2:23:17] years but these ones that we're selling here the these are the ones that we can

[2:23:21] pull a box off and put a fifth wheel on so we don't need extra trucks in the

[2:23:25] summertime for graveling that we should be keeping them

[2:23:29] but these are just some of the questions that have been popping

[2:23:36] around Richard I I only asked because I there's

[2:23:41] a couple of R peers that had asked me and I encourag them to phone public

[2:23:45] works but I don't know if it happened so um I um I really believe we have to stay

[2:23:50] out of of it because we're going to have nine different opinions on when we

[2:23:54] should dispose of something uh yeah back few years ago I think

[2:24:00] maybe it it it was a situation where they were not well used uh that's all

[2:24:09] been changed and you guys have your budgets but I do say Shane that

[2:24:13] everybody would have a different number as to what mileage they should be

[2:24:18] disposed of and that's why we got to stay out of it

[2:24:31] okay while the question was asked and you're going to find the information

[2:24:36] so I haven't even got the motion yet

[2:24:42] so don't no I forgot to get a

[2:24:47] motion it you made the motion motion to dispose them okay so I do have a motion

[2:24:53] on the

[2:24:56] floor any more questions on it they kind of look like they know what

[2:25:03] they're doing H which one of them you know I could uh and through the

[2:25:11] chair I could provide a little bit more information um we went through some uh

[2:25:16] some fairly turbulent times uh beginning in 2020 uh when when assets weren't

[2:25:21] weren't available to get so uh we had to put our minds to towards overh holding

[2:25:26] uh the vehicles while we waited uh for the for the new asset to arrive so that

[2:25:32] put us out a schedule upwards of 16 months so so what we're seeing is a

[2:25:36] little bit of reworking the fleet to meet the level of surface that uh the

[2:25:41] council's uh determined um also in 2020 the municipal discount went away and so

[2:25:48] we really need to put our minds back to reworking that Fleet plan uh and and

[2:25:53] hats off to Public Works and and and Trevor for for being being able to be a

[2:25:58] little bit more current with that plan uh and and we only anticipate tightening

[2:26:02] that plan up more and more and while we have our fingers and toes

[2:26:07] crossed for the municipal discount to return but that's kind of the state

[2:26:10] we're in um for example the plow trucks are are are critical if they go down the

[2:26:16] the the snow doesn't get removed from the road so we have to kind of balance

[2:26:20] that expectation of service with the the new reality of the price prices being so

[2:26:26] high to deliver that so we're um we're on it it's not always pretty but uh but

[2:26:32] we're on it Shane did you have your hand

[2:26:37] up the reason I brought about the Weston star because I knew we could take the

[2:26:42] box off and put fifth wheel on Hall gravel and it was brought up to Public

[2:26:45] Works before that we have spent quite a bit of money on hiring out graveling

[2:26:51] where they were going to do a report see if it is warranted for another trailer

[2:26:56] truck and trailer you know add some more trucks to our Fleet so I was just

[2:27:00] wondering if it was thought of that we may end up needing one of these and just

[2:27:04] get a trailer if we already had a truck just so we could use it during the

[2:27:07] summer months for graveling that is why I brought it

[2:27:16] up legitimate

[2:27:21] yeah I have a motion on the floor so is there any more comments

[2:27:27] on

[2:27:36] vote it's carried I don't need three in good shape

[2:27:42] I came out of BC during snowstorm it is 1995 there

[2:27:55] okay

[2:27:58] 7.4.1 thank you through the chair before you is chief administrative officer

[2:28:04] bylaw 20255 Administration is seeking approval

[2:28:09] for chief administrative officer bylaw 201535 be replaced by the new CAO bylaw

[2:28:18] 20255 bylaw 202 505 significantly expands upon the framework established

[2:28:24] in the 2015 bylaw for the CAO while both bylaws outlin cao's the cao's primary

[2:28:31] role as the administrative Le leader and adviser to council the new bylaw

[2:28:36] introduces more comprehensive responsibilities explicitly tying the

[2:28:40] cao's duties to compliance with various legislative

[2:28:46] acts key enhancements in the bylaw include detailed legislation process

[2:28:50] extanded powers to negotiate contracts legal sediments and increased

[2:28:55] accountability mechanisms the new bylaw formalizes oversight and environmental

[2:29:00] compliance Taxation and development agreements reflecting a more moderate

[2:29:05] and detailed approach to Municipal Administration by repealing 2020

[2:29:11] 201535 the updated bylaw establishes a more robust structured and legislatively

[2:29:16] aligned governance model for the cao's role

[2:29:21] the mission is to provide Regional leadership

[2:29:24] responsible responsible government and Innovative Municipal Services

[2:29:28] Administration is recommending that bylaw

[2:29:32] 20255 being a bylaw of Cypress County to establish the position of chief

[2:29:37] administrative officer be given first reading and as an alternative option for

[2:29:43] councel if you so choose you may pass all three readings

[2:29:50] okay thank you uh Dustin's moving first

[2:30:07] vote that's

[2:30:11] carried Robin moving second I had both heads turning different ways here Robins

[2:30:18] moving second any questions or

[2:30:24] comments not seeing any

[2:30:32] vote it's carried Michelle's move into have

[2:30:37] third

[2:30:44] vote Carri Shane's move in third vote

[2:30:58] that one's carried okay we're on to

[2:31:12] 7.4.2 thank you through the chair before council is the your is the council

[2:31:16] procedure bylaw Administration is Seeking a approval for the procedure

[2:31:21] bylaw 20211 be replaced by the new Council procedure bylaw the current

[2:31:27] bylaw requires updating to address evolving governance

[2:31:31] needs to incorporate modern technology practices and provide clear and more

[2:31:36] comprehensive guidelines for efficient and transparent

[2:31:39] operations bylaw 20256 introduces significant updates

[2:31:44] emphasizing inclusive inclusivity transparency and detailed government

[2:31:50] governance the 25 document expands a scope to cover meeting procedures for

[2:31:54] all Council established bodies prioritizing fairness and equality while

[2:31:59] the 21 document focuses more on structuring Council and governance and

[2:32:04] committee governance notable updates in the bylaw

[2:32:08] include explicit Provisions for electronic participation live streaming

[2:32:13] and meeting recordings reflecting modern technology role in governance it also

[2:32:18] strengthens guidelines for public participation ensure ensuring structured

[2:32:23] time limits and notification procedures in contrast to

[2:32:27] the flexibility offered in the 2021 version other key differences include

[2:32:33] enhanced rules in bylaw 20256 for meeting scheduling cancellations and

[2:32:39] public notifications the roles of the Reeve and

[2:32:43] Deputy Reeve are explicitly defined as chair and vice chair respectively while

[2:32:47] the 21 document uses more broader terms overall the 2025 document reflects a

[2:32:53] more detailed transparent and technologically integrated approach to

[2:32:58] council's procedures Administration is

[2:33:02] recommending that bylaw 20256 being a bylaw of Cypress County to provide for

[2:33:08] the orderly proceedings of meetings held by Council and various boards committees

[2:33:13] and other bodies established by Council be given first reading or as the

[2:33:17] previous bylaw Council may choose to give this bylaw all three

[2:33:23] readings thank you uh Lloyd's move in first

[2:33:30] reading

[2:33:37] vote it's carried Richards move in second the floor is open is there any

[2:33:44] questions or Robin thank you Mr Reeve um I guess

[2:33:49] question for uh our CEO um when I was reading through and just kind of

[2:33:54] skimming over this I wasn't too sure whether or not because it wasn't we

[2:33:56] weren't looking at both and so I wasn't too sure whether we were um kind of

[2:34:00] updating or if it was something that was completely new um when it comes down to

[2:34:06] Bringing uh things like technological you know meeting attendance virtually

[2:34:11] and you know we had some pretty good stuff around um recorded meetings and

[2:34:17] you know how long they were being uh saved online or are kept for um what

[2:34:22] kind of changes have we seen on that so from the old bot to the new bylaw there

[2:34:28] is no changes councelor Kirby white actually the the retention of those

[2:34:32] recorded meetings and stuff is within our um records and retention bylaw so

[2:34:38] nothing changes this more is surrounding um if people wanted to submit for

[2:34:41] instance a public hearing that somebody isn't able to attend that we've given

[2:34:46] Provisions for them to submit their presentation

[2:34:50] electronically this bylaw and also it has a lot more procedures in it for

[2:34:55] Council so it's a lot more clear for them to provide a notice of motion and

[2:35:00] basically it more aligns with what we were currently doing the previous bylaw

[2:35:04] was a little bit um it uses terms that we don't use anymore and I've found kind

[2:35:10] of doing my review of other municipalities that a lot of these older

[2:35:14] bylaws are being brought back to be more updated to what council's actually doing

[2:35:22] any other questions

[2:35:26] Michelle I do have one on page 93 I think it is meeting agendas

[2:35:35] um it said in there if agenda is to be published or the agenda is to be

[2:35:40] published six days prior to a meeting so if that happens right now we like if

[2:35:46] we're submitting something for to be on the agenda it has to be in the Wednesday

[2:35:50] before but according to this it has to be in like the week before so I just

[2:35:55] wanted clarification on that like when do we have to if we're submitting

[2:35:59] something to the agenda when does that have to be

[2:36:06] there um yes so Council will notice that there is going to be a little bit of a

[2:36:11] um a shift we are moving our timelines um back I would say that we're going to

[2:36:16] be publishing in the agenda for example I usually would be publishing on Friday

[2:36:20] but I will be publishing the the agenda on Wednesday so I can go through and

[2:36:25] highlight a couple of the the date changes

[2:36:29] but still there those timelines are going to stay pretty much the same for

[2:36:34] Council but what I'll do is I'll um put it in an email for some of those key

[2:36:38] dates I just don't have them all off the top of my head at the moment but yeah

[2:36:41] you'll see agendas coming out a lot sooner I I was just curious and then I

[2:36:45] did have another comment on page 81 under application

[2:36:50] purpose and this could be just me and not anybody else but it all my policy

[2:36:56] committees it it in there it said it um about common sense

[2:37:02] 2.1 and I didn't think I thought don't think that's a term we can are allowed

[2:37:07] to use anymore is it because it implies that somebody doesn't have it and we

[2:37:12] can't do things like that oh my mic wasn't even on sorry

[2:37:19] there yeah know yes on page 81 page

[2:37:25] 81

[2:37:29] 2.1 I know I started on 93 and then went back to 88 or 81 sorry but I don't mind

[2:37:36] the rest of it and it could be just immed just that Common Sense term

[2:37:43] commense I mean I guess they're just expanding on you know the spirit of

[2:37:47] fairness and equality I mean if if you would prefer that that

[2:37:53] that part be struck out of the BW like I'm not hung up on it one way or another

[2:37:57] so if if you don't like it in there we could definitely change it I really

[2:38:00] don't care it just in like I said other policy committees people have brought

[2:38:05] that forward saying that it implies that someone does not have common sense and

[2:38:09] it's a derogatory term and you can't use it anymore so me personally I I don't

[2:38:14] care I use common the term common sense all the time but

[2:38:20] I'm good with it I think it should be used more

[2:38:27] often Mr re members of the council just to address councilor McKenzie's first

[2:38:32] point uh we are trying to get to a place and we're using the uh the what is not

[2:38:38] going to be the second meeting in March while council is attending RMA one of

[2:38:43] the things that happens is we are rushing with limited staff to get a

[2:38:48] package together at the last minute for every council meeting we're trying to

[2:38:52] get ahead where for example the February 19th and it won't happen yet because we

[2:38:56] haven't had that break but we're trying to get to a point where the Feb where

[2:39:00] for example the February 19th council meeting would already be in the can

[2:39:03] today ready to go there might be some minor changes to the agenda but we're

[2:39:08] trying to get two weeks ahead so we're not uh in particular for uh for the

[2:39:13] municipal clerk's office where it's crazy the last little bit and staff are

[2:39:18] handing in at the last minute rfds and counselors have last minute the requests

[2:39:22] and and then of course uh you know the agenda has to be approved by the reev we

[2:39:26] are trying to use that break in March to get two weeks ahead so staff is

[2:39:31] planning in theory for a March a second meeting in March but there will not be

[2:39:35] one so that package will be in the can so um uh so the municipal Services

[2:39:40] office will always be two weeks ahead uh so that if there is a problem or and

[2:39:46] somebody it's sick somebody's on vacation we're not going to be in a

[2:39:50] panic as how we're managing that package at the last minute and that kind of goes

[2:39:53] through the question as to we can now given that we will be ahead we can

[2:39:58] publish the agenda a day or two earlier to allow both Council and the public to

[2:40:03] get a little extra time to read through the package not just the agenda but

[2:40:07] through the whole package because some of the packages are can be quite

[2:40:12] large thank

[2:40:15] you okay any other questions on it who move

[2:40:23] second oh com I thought he was trying to

[2:40:29] vote no I I appreciate what you're trying to do that that would help me a

[2:40:33] lot because sometimes you you get busy and and especially well I'm busy all

[2:40:38] year but sometimes it gets there's a lot of reading and if you if you attack it

[2:40:42] at night you fall asleep several times and you need an extra night or two to

[2:40:46] get through it so anyway I like the Common Sense part

[2:40:52] in there I'd say go ahead and leave it in and that's a little different the

[2:40:56] packages usually keep me up at night as supposed to put me to sleep

[2:41:02] so all right second has been made

[2:41:09] vote carried Robins moving to have third vot

[2:41:25] Shane Lloyd's mooving third

[2:41:36] vote okay that's carried where we going to

[2:41:44] 7.4.4 thank you Mr members of the council this is regarding correspondence

[2:41:48] information you'll see that there just for everyone's reminder L use B open

[2:41:52] house uh uh oh hold on I'm

[2:41:58] sorry pending councel

[2:42:05] all I think we jumped one there didn't we

[2:42:08] yes oh that's okay that's your one one leeway for the

[2:42:17] year yeah I don't believe there's any um no motion is required on this one it

[2:42:21] it's just more for council's information and if there's anything that they wanted

[2:42:25] to bring light to but these are just the ones that um that staff is still

[2:42:29] currently working on and we come back to a future meeting or a committee of a

[2:42:33] whole or do you want a motion receiving for information no no okay all right

[2:42:40] then we will go to Mr Hogan then uh thank you just a reminder for uh Council

[2:42:45] uh the land use bylaw open houses uh one on the fifth

[2:42:49] uh tomorrow between 4: and 8 p.m. Saturday at the irvan resource center

[2:42:53] between 10:00 a.m. and 2: p.m. uh there is a uh Council lunch and invite to the

[2:42:58] Southfield Community Center uh and uh and an au update the um ala link update

[2:43:06] and Au update um for your reading pleasure as

[2:43:11] well

[2:43:14] okay do we need a motion on this one

[2:43:20] yes to accept it if I could just get um Council to maybe if you could um just

[2:43:26] straw vote or maybe decide on a date for the when you'd like to go out to

[2:43:32] safield or I can send it in an email with I can do any date 21st

[2:43:44] February it'll be over by the 20th it's 17th 19th or something

[2:43:50] or would you prefer that I did it in I mean I guess our Council meetings are

[2:43:55] getting a bit full I know previously we did it in conjunction with the council

[2:43:58] meeting but I don't think it's going to

[2:44:05] work or is that kind of tough for Council do you want me to ask him for

[2:44:09] some more dates in April and May maybe when things slow down for

[2:44:17] you no March 6 or 7th because that's right

[2:44:22] before caving and that and after that we get into Cav season seating and busy

[2:44:30] time

[2:44:36] 17th so you have a council meeting on the

[2:44:39] 4th then the 6th is the Thursday the 7eventh is the Friday

[2:44:51] well I'd say the seventh Friday because if if they're having fish it's always

[2:44:55] fish on

[2:44:59] Fridays I don't care sounds like common sense to

[2:45:04] me minute I'm G my son

[2:45:20] if you like I can send it out to Council in an email and you guys can I can give

[2:45:25] you the choice of the sixth or the 7th and then you can get back to

[2:45:32] me sure that's what you want or set it for or set it

[2:45:41] today you guys

[2:45:45] pick it's a Friday may not be here I won't I won't

[2:45:51] be and

[2:45:58] Reeves you pick the 7th March 7th Friday

[2:46:08] Friday okay Friday March 7th thank you yeah and then I'll just

[2:46:14] ask for a motion to accept the correspondents and items for information

[2:46:19] blae is making that motion sure

[2:46:31] vote Mr Hawk can you vote

[2:46:37] please really that's

[2:46:42] carried read from counsel reports obviously was on holidays so I

[2:46:50] don't have much to report it was an expensive

[2:46:56] holiday uh Dustin we'll start with you yeah I'm kind of in the same boat I

[2:47:03] got lots of sun and I went skiing but I haven't done very much County stuff so

[2:47:07] I'll pass

[2:47:10] Keith okay in addition to council went to the egg Service Board conference in

[2:47:17] Edmonton a lot of good um

[2:47:22] speakers um everything from cootes to pigs

[2:47:27] to drones and mental health lot lots of good presenters so I really enjoyed that

[2:47:38] conference I had a nice tour with uh our new CEO there a week in a b go uh had a

[2:47:44] good time uh good good conversations and toured them around w before and uh we

[2:47:49] had a chance to go and have a peek at some of the stuff that prayer Rose was

[2:47:53] doing over at their Academy building and and talk planes and all that fun stuff

[2:47:58] uh I did have one phone call that came in that I wanted to run by councel and

[2:48:01] see um what if you know what kind of direction we want to take with it but

[2:48:06] it's with regards to um some of the elk issues um that some of our ranchers out

[2:48:11] in the hills are dealing with right now Lloyd you listening because this one I

[2:48:15] think I need to get your thoughts on this one too so um had a call from one

[2:48:19] one of the ranches out in the the elkwater area and you don't believe it

[2:48:25] but just specifically though about um what can the county do with regards to

[2:48:30] um you know damages and things like that that some of the elk do and I I'm not

[2:48:34] personally Familiar of any kind of precedent although I know with the with

[2:48:38] the base there's been a lot of stuff that happens out there there's you know

[2:48:42] there's a lot of different kinds of programs that exist that deal with pests

[2:48:47] and damages that are done and so what I mentioned to this this Rancher was you

[2:48:52] know I would I'd bring it by Council um I think that there's a couple of

[2:48:56] different potentials that we have one maybe that it goes to the egg Service

[2:48:58] Board I don't know if the egg Service Board would have any kind of

[2:49:01] conversation about that or maybe what we do is um you know we can I can send an

[2:49:06] email to our CEO and just say Hey listen this is the what I got and we can

[2:49:10] perhaps look into any kind of resolutions that maybe RMA has currently

[2:49:14] to see if there's something that could be done but to me it was a a a valid

[2:49:20] concern that I I imagine I bring forward and kind of see where we want to

[2:49:29] go he was sleeping through it no he was he was okay

[2:49:35] Lloyd so I'm gathering he's this branch is complaining about his crop or his

[2:49:40] fences yeah was he said that there's already um programs that exist or the

[2:49:46] insurance that you can get if they get into your Hast stack that help with some

[2:49:49] of that but some of it was crops some of it was fences and uh and just kind of

[2:49:54] asking what what the county could do and I know from my experience on Council you

[2:49:59] know what the county may do is much different than say what the province

[2:50:03] might do if you know if there's programs but I don't really have any experience

[2:50:07] in this so I'm kind of laying it out there to see if anybody I'm sure he

[2:50:11] knows and but uh the fish and wildlife have a of a program that if the elk are

[2:50:17] coming into your haast stack they will bring you a

[2:50:21] fence um a chain link fence but you put it up and you can claim damages to the

[2:50:28] federal or provincial government but county has no programs that I'm aware of

[2:50:37] out there and yeah any damage that they do you can actually file

[2:50:44] claims so

[2:50:52] I have one of the biggest herds and I got pictures of it of a heard of over

[2:50:57] 200 on my property there is

[2:51:01] no sure I wish there was ways to collect for fense damage and that but the deer

[2:51:06] do it the snow does it and that you can try to go through fish and wildlife but

[2:51:13] for County it's not our responsibility I wish it was I mean I'd file right

[2:51:17] tomorrow but it's not it's fish and wildlife it's not a county

[2:51:22] thing because if we look at Elk then we've got to look at deer anal all the

[2:51:26] way right down to a gopher you know it's we got to draw the

[2:51:31] line I wish there was but I got pictures of the herd of 200 the hunter said there

[2:51:37] was 214 head in that

[2:51:42] herd there yeah well you brought it up that's that's your answer okay

[2:51:50] BL yeah same as Keith said I was at the ASB conference and yeah there was uh

[2:51:55] really good speakers there and enjoyed them all talking about the various

[2:51:58] topics um also had a library meeting on the 23rd of

[2:52:03] January and also happy to report that Iran Resource Center had a party for

[2:52:09] their first anniversary and they had about 60 70 people there had cake and

[2:52:13] stuff and and was very well attended and everybody seems to be really happy with

[2:52:17] the facility they're gaining their the staff is doing an

[2:52:21] excellent job with some of their programming with the kids and stuff and

[2:52:24] and uh you know gaining new memberships all the time so things are proceeding

[2:52:29] quite well in that uh building

[2:52:34] Richard uh Friday January 17th I attended the Foothills little bll

[2:52:39] meeting in leftridge um passed some um resolutions um one that didn't go

[2:52:47] through was uh one of the municipalities suggested that we only

[2:52:52] have a meeting once a year in Edmonton and uh oh sorry RMA meeting in Edmonton

[2:52:58] yes and um uh have the other one by Zoom but most of us struggle with zoom as far

[2:53:06] as the clarity so anyway that didn't go through and then um attended a Community

[2:53:12] Foundation entore meeting on the 22nd 23rd I did a zoom meeting with milk

[2:53:20] River Watershed Council just CU roads were crapping what it's a tough way to

[2:53:25] participate in a meeting so um I I try not to do that but sometimes that 2hour

[2:53:31] drive down another two hours back is just a it's a tough one with weather on

[2:53:36] uh Friday January 24th I represented Cyprus County at the college Mr and Mrs

[2:53:42] Yu made a $5 million donation to the college this money will be used to see

[2:53:48] and enhance capacity and programming for Health Care students it was suggested

[2:53:55] there would be uh could be an initial 200 seats in high demand healthc care

[2:54:01] programs so the county was invited to participate and Dan was on holidays so I

[2:54:07] uh filled in for him on Sunday in the afternoon I was a

[2:54:13] judge at the S persons um Community Hall um 4 club and I like going to those I I

[2:54:22] I wear my name tag and cuz not everybody knows you and I get to talk to a lot of

[2:54:27] rars and there was a lot of positive stuff you know the odd question about a

[2:54:33] road maybe or a procedure but uh it's it's a it's a good it's just another way

[2:54:40] of getting out into the community and and talking to some people that normally

[2:54:44] wouldn't phone you and or send you an email so um

[2:54:48] yeah that's it thank you

[2:54:54] Michelle the last council meeting was on January 14th

[2:54:58] right okay then I had a short grass meeting on the

[2:55:03] 15th and I haven't been to one of those because it's been conflicting with other

[2:55:07] meetings for quite some time so we we had nominated a new board well it's the

[2:55:13] same board but you know did all the nominations and everything at that one

[2:55:17] then on the 16th I had a Cypress View meeting on the 17th went to Lethbridge

[2:55:23] for Foothills little blow bow and it was a very long painful drive cuz it was

[2:55:29] really ugly outside but we made it and then I got to spend the week in a cabin

[2:55:33] in a hot tub it was lovely and since then oh on Friday I did a virtual

[2:55:38] meeting with fcss AA which was supposed to be in person but apparently it snowed

[2:55:44] somewhere else in the province and we couldn't have it in person we had to do

[2:55:48] it virtually so I did that and yeah that was

[2:55:55] it mine was uh for meetings was pretty slow just uh the library meeting I was

[2:56:03] just going to say that uh they have

[2:56:08] 153 memberships in uh last year before it opened they only had

[2:56:15] 37 so it's really growing and there and they really are doing a fantastic job

[2:56:21] it's great so I went to the uh elat Community Association meeting on

[2:56:27] Sunday and uh learned that from Dylan that the uh fire smart program for

[2:56:36] the um fire guards is uh no not going ahead no they were doing

[2:56:46] 35 hectares the company that was doing

[2:56:51] it uh whether they didn't know what El quar was like during the winter or not

[2:56:56] pulled out they only did six hectares and uh said they couldn't handle the

[2:57:04] weather so they have left they canceled the contract walked away from it so what

[2:57:10] they did with the money they were able to get it

[2:57:14] transferred so uh there's a company different company that's doing a fires

[2:57:20] smart program in the townsite and they got 37 days to cut

[2:57:25] trees down so apparently when they've done their trees they're going to extend

[2:57:31] the um sprinkler line and try and get it over because right now the sprinkler

[2:57:37] just covers pretty well all the Seventh Avenue in the trees there and so there's

[2:57:42] nothing to the West like for fire rock or uh that area in there the group camps

[2:57:49] so my understanding is they're going to try and uh do that area and then put

[2:57:54] another sprinkler system in depending on the budget

[2:57:59] so and that's uh pretty all that's what's

[2:58:06] new Shane oh had uh went to the egg Service

[2:58:13] Board convention like bla and Keith said we had some really good speakers L this

[2:58:17] year I attended the Royal crime watch meeting

[2:58:22] the other night and I really wish her fellow counselor uh Richard

[2:58:28] Oster would have been there because there was a really good

[2:58:31] presentation on how seniors are being taken advantage of on scams both on by

[2:58:37] phone and by internet and I feel he would have really

[2:58:42] got a benefit from that because it is becoming a

[2:58:45] really big issue and I thought about you sir and not I wish you would have been

[2:58:52] there also at the meeting our fire chief did a very good very good

[2:58:59] presentation to everybody and he presented uh an award

[2:59:05] to past counselor and past firman uh Gary Lance for his years of contribution

[2:59:11] to the fire department because he was one of the originals that there and did

[2:59:17] gave him a nice back and he was very surprised at it and he was very

[2:59:23] appreciative also uh the Royal crime watch now wereare include County of new

[2:59:29] and 40 mile in Cyprus and we had a presentation from

[2:59:34] RCMP out of bizo out of Brooks out of Bo Island and out of Madison hat all four

[2:59:40] detachments were there and did a presentation and so was quite

[2:59:47] good also I attended it was nice to see I want to

[2:59:51] give it's nice to see some of our old oh what to say ranchers pure bread

[3:00:00] breeders bla there he had a there used to be a lot of perer bed

[3:00:05] breeders in our area of Herford cattle now we're only down to two it's nice to

[3:00:10] see that bla is continuing on that rep there and had an excellent sale where

[3:00:15] cattle sold from to all over Western can in the states and it was nice to see

[3:00:21] certain businesses prosper in our County that it would become dying because that

[3:00:26] I counted one day when I was doing shorts I think there was nine or 10 peer

[3:00:29] bed readers now we're down to two you know I was dwindled but you had a good

[3:00:34] one there bla sir keep up the good work and uh few phone calls about roads and

[3:00:42] one about what is our greater do in driving around when it's all ice on the

[3:00:46] roads and I said I'll talk to publica Works about

[3:00:49] that and no that was about it any questions on the

[3:00:57] reports sh that's not a question on the report but I did forget to add something

[3:01:03] I attended the state of the city address with Mr Hogan one day Shane was supposed

[3:01:08] to be there but he didn't come for some reason and yeah it was good I thought

[3:01:14] actually it was pretty short notice when Richard phoned me and I kind kind of

[3:01:18] figured that I was going to be have his name tag and I was going to be Richard

[3:01:21] Oster for the day but our lovely leslianne was on it and I had my own

[3:01:25] name

[3:01:38] tag okay any questions on the reports go with

[3:01:43] senior little bit you don't remember though

[3:01:50] Richard's moving the

[3:01:53] reports I think so

[3:02:01] vote it's carried okay we'll take a two-minute break and then we will or do

[3:02:07] you want to go in camera first last or we'll go in as soon as we come back take

[3:02:12] a

Cypress County council meeting recording, Feb. 4, 2025

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