[0:02] call to order the regular meeting of the Del City city council for May 1 2023.

[0:07] Melissa would you call the roll please councilman Carl Gandy here councilwoman

[0:13] Claudia Brown here councilwoman Pam Finch here councilman Michael Dean here

[0:18] and mayor Eason the mayor is here would you rise please for the invocation and

[0:23] I'll ask councilman Dean to bring us the invitation

[0:28] sure Frank Lord thank you Lord for this beautiful

[0:32] day for this wonderful nation that we live in and for all the blessings that

[0:37] you give to us Lord we pray for our militaries both here at home and around

[0:41] the world and pray for their safety Lord we have prayed for our First

[0:45] Responders for their Safety and Security and Lord we pray that you'll be with us

[0:50] tonight as we make decisions for the city and that we do our best job that we

[0:55] can for our fellow citizens it's in Jesus name we pray amen amen

[0:59] Chief Burger would you lead us in the pledge please

[1:06] of the United States of America

[1:11] one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all

[1:18] you may be seated

[1:33] okay we're going to begin with a proclamation

[1:38] kids to Parks day

[1:43] whereas May 20 20 23 is annual kids do Parks day which is organized and

[1:49] launched by the national park trust held on the third Saturday of May and whereas

[1:54] kids to park stay empowers kids and encourages families to get outdoors and

[1:58] visit local parks public lands and Waters and whereas we should encourage

[2:04] children to lead a more active lifestyle to combat issues of childhood obesity

[2:09] diabetes hypertension and high cholesterol and whereas kids to park

[2:15] stays we'll broaden children's appreciation for nature and Outdoors and

[2:20] whereas kids to park day will recognize the importance of recreating responsibly

[2:25] while enjoying the benefits of the outdoors now therefore I Floyd a Eason

[2:31] mayor of the city of Del City do hereby recognize May 20th 2023 as kids to Parks

[2:38] day and I encourage Del City parents to participate in kids to park stay

[2:43] activities with their children sign Floyd Easton mayor city of Del City

[2:50] okay we now come to the portion on the agenda it's the public and Council input

[2:56] anybody that would like to address the Council on non-agenda items you have up

[3:02] to five minutes to speak on non-agenda items is there anybody like to speak to

[3:07] the council on non-agenda items

[3:15] seen none councilman Gandy

[3:19] nothing at this time

[3:23] councilman Brown sorry I had to get there

[3:27] thank you so much with this being my first meeting I do actually have a few

[3:32] things to mention uh mayor thank you so much for giving me the time

[3:37] um first off I want to thank our police chief and all of our Police Department

[3:43] um I have seen them the most recently uh being at the rotary as well as our

[3:49] neighborhood watch Association so I know that they are definitely building

[3:52] relationships and also being completely available

[3:56] for assisting Rose State College I know that was very important and a shiny

[4:00] moment for us to be able to to help in that matter they were also at the tiger

[4:06] Trot Townsend Elementary is in my ward Ward 3

[4:11] Townsend Elementary had the a tiger Trot last Saturday not this past Saturday but

[4:16] the Saturday before it was amazing they had the police were able to to come and

[4:23] make it Dr Cobbs was there we've got some pictures here um that were sent

[4:28] unfortunately Miss Melissa was not able to make it today she was not feeling

[4:34] well but she's a wonderful Community leader uh

[4:38] one of our teachers there at Townsend has started a fitness club that starts

[4:42] every morning and they are doing a tiger Trot and she did want me to mention that

[4:48] we they are also doing a Special Olympics that is going to be on May the

[4:54] 5th there is going to be about 148 participants from nine different

[5:01] schools that will be coming on May the 5th so I would love you guys to be able

[5:07] to attend and cheer them on it's going to start at 10 A.M and it's going to

[5:12] last till about 1. so I hope to see all of you guys there another update the

[5:18] Vintage Store and More that is also in my ward did finally get their brand new

[5:23] sign up so I'd love for you guys to drive by and see the brand new sign it

[5:27] looks really really good Free Comic Book Day is coming up the comic book store is

[5:33] Ward 3. don't forget that fabulous spot there free comic big day is on May the

[5:40] 6th so after our parade on May the 6th they are giving away free comic books to

[5:46] students and I believe that you get up to three free starts at 11 there at our

[5:52] amazing comic book store that is [Music]

[5:56] um on May the 6th and let's see here I want

[6:01] to give a shout out to one of my danwa patrol captains um David Ellison he

[6:07] represented Del City very well at the memorial Marathon

[6:11] um on Saturday he ran the 5K and got sixth place

[6:16] um he uh in the age range of 70 to 74. so out of 32 participants he did get

[6:23] sixth place so we're very proud of him for that and he also ran the half

[6:28] marathon on Sunday so not only did he run on Saturday he ran on Sunday

[6:33] and met his goal of running it all under three hours so we're very proud of him

[6:38] for representing Del City and Ward 3. Dan walgo danwa thank you

[6:47] hmm councilman Finch

[6:52] most of it I've already given to JD but also on Tuesday May 9th at 6 30.

[7:00] the OBS will be having a family fun bicycle ride which will start at The

[7:05] Rotary Park pavilion it'll head down Dell Road to Glen Avenue just west of

[7:10] Eberly Heights by 6 30. uh and it'll zigzag back around come up

[7:16] 22nd so the children can learn how to do their hand signals for bike safety if

[7:23] you have any if you need any information contact Larry Hopper with the Rotary

[7:28] Club of Del City

[7:34] yes um there's a couple of different places

[7:36] in the city where we have the road bases failing which is basically by Destiny uh

[7:44] Christian School on 29th Street so basically we're ending up with a big

[7:49] pothole out there and then over on Sooner Road over by

[7:54] some of our uh you know by teds in different places there there's

[7:58] another one there so the hope is is that you know we can get a good professional

[8:03] crew out there to go and repair this before it gets worse instead of waiting

[8:09] for us to think that we need to replace all the 29th Street hopefully we can get

[8:12] the you know these different bad spots fixed

[8:16] thank you okay JD I understand there's a parade

[8:21] going to be happening this weekend so I've Been Told

[8:25] uh it's going to be a great parade there's a lot of good activities going

[8:29] on last year was fantastic and it's going to be better this year is that

[8:32] right guaranteed by JD

[8:37] but everyone turn out we're lining up at nine is my understanding

[8:44] and then at 9 45 we're going to have a pre-opening ceremony

[8:48] where's Brittany but at 10 o'clock the parade starts

[8:54] there's a new route we're going to start it at 15th Street rather than at I-40 so

[8:59] we don't have to shut down the access roads to the interstate this year but

[9:04] it's going to be a great event we're looking forward to it and I hope

[9:08] everybody can turn out and have a good time

[9:11] JD what do you got for us mayor isn't it actually starting on 17th Street

[9:16] so yeah yeah so 17. so the best place to start would

[9:21] be or show up would be the high school South

[9:25] the freshest candy is at 15th Street anyway 15th street 17th Street that's

[9:31] where it begins don't go to I-40 you'll be all alone

[9:35] okay JD what do you got for us okay a couple of things uh one thing to get on

[9:40] the calendars for now um we have always been state of the city in the month of

[9:44] June and one of the requests is is to Move It from the lunchtime period

[9:48] because so many people have to work to move it to in the evening so the state

[9:53] of the city for the city of dull city is scheduled for June 15 2023 at 6 pm at

[9:59] the community center and it's going to be a chance for all of

[10:02] the council people different uh Department directors here at the city

[10:06] and myself to give updates on what's happening with the city give an

[10:10] opportunity for the citizens to interact with us ask questions things of that

[10:13] nature so that is scheduled for June 15 2023 at 6 pm

[10:19] that's usually a daytime event isn't it right changing it to 6 p.m yes sir do we

[10:23] get overtime for that unless

[10:27] we don't never mind sorry um

[10:30] did a quick update with the parade yes it's scheduled to kick off at 9 45 on

[10:34] Saturday our final determination for weather will be by eight o'clock in the

[10:38] morning by our fire chief everything looks great please pray for Clear Skies

[10:42] we know it's going to be a wonderful time

[10:45] um bulk trash is to begin on May the 29th you can start placing your trash

[10:49] out by the curb on May 25th not before code enforcement is still out and about

[10:55] we actually have our new code officer that just started this week so yeah oh

[10:59] boy yeah let's not let's not put anything out there before the 25th

[11:04] um but starting on the 25th you can start putting out the bulk trash and

[11:07] it'll be picked up beginning on the 29th and last but not least our first two

[11:11] chapters of our comprehensive plan are complete and have been turned into us

[11:15] for review we're making modifications and things to that so between the city

[11:19] planner the development director and myself we'll be reviewing that this week

[11:22] we're very excited to have it and we will have updates for you all in the

[11:26] coming weeks all right very good

[11:30] City Clerk I have nothing at this time all right moving on to item number six

[11:35] consent docket discussion consideration possible action

[11:40] to approve the following items by unanimous consent with one motion item a

[11:44] is minutes of April 17 2023 regular meeting of council approved the minister

[11:49] of regular immunity Council for April 17 2023. Item B is a budget amendment

[11:55] approve a budget budget amendment for fiscal year 2022 2023 as shown in

[12:01] exhibit a to the council agenda do I hear a motion make a motion we approve

[12:07] the minutes second

[12:09] and the budget sorry items A and B thank you in your second second is for B also

[12:18] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[12:22] take the vote councilman Gandy aye councilman Finch hi councilman Dean aye

[12:28] councilman Brown aye mayor votes I the motion carries

[12:34] item number seven presentation dining in Del City expose for May 2023.

[12:40] discussion consideration Apostle likes to approve or deny a presentation from

[12:45] the economic development team on the dining and Del City expose recipient for

[12:50] May 2023 Chelinos Mexican Restaurant located at 115 South Sooner Road do I

[12:59] hear a motion make a motion we hear the presentation

[13:04] second

[13:07] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[13:11] take the vote councilman Gandy councilman Finch hi councilman Dean aye

[13:17] councilman Brown aye mayor votes I the motion carries

[13:21] let's seize is Kelly given the who's Roshan is it says Kelly Wilbanks

[13:30] Roshana please step to the podium and identify

[13:33] yourself for the city clerk good evening Council Rashana Moore

[13:38] Economic Development marketing coordinator

[13:43] I'd like to present the May recipient for dining in Del City

[13:48] which is Chelinos the bio reads that marcielo Garcia known as chelino came to

[13:57] Oklahoma City from Mexico when he started out as a dishwasher at a local

[14:00] Mexican restaurant he worked his way up to cook and then into management he

[14:06] later opened his own restaurant called Chelinos which now has 10 locations

[14:11] throughout Oklahoma City metro and also a tortilla factory a meat market and a

[14:17] Mexican import store so we want to just invite everyone to be a part of their

[14:21] story and join them at 1 15 Sooner Road in Del City and watch their business

[14:29] grow um

[14:32] we have Victor Soto

[14:38] and he's from Chelinos and then we're going to do a presentation

[15:37] all right [Applause]

[15:56] good evening good evening councilman women

[16:01] uh I would like to thank the city of the

[16:06] city of Del City for the opportunity that has given us

[16:14] chilino Marcelino Garcia founder and the corporation of Salinas

[16:24] and would like to thank also all our patrons from Dell

[16:32] City Midwest City and surrounding areas uh

[16:40] uh thank you very much for this award

[16:44] thank you guys [Applause]

[17:05] okay I gotta say I gotta say we hosted a meet and greet for Marissa treat at your

[17:12] place here recently wonderful

[17:16] that little room you have on the North side it's worked perfect and the food

[17:21] was excellent thank you for having us out there thank you very much all right

[17:24] thank you thank you guys

[17:40] all right

[17:46] we do have samples

[17:55] um let's we'll get them in just a minute

[17:58] let's get them in just a minute we have some things we need to knock out first

[18:02] I'd like to jump ahead on the agenda to item number 15.

[18:08] item number 15 is Oklahoma Natural Gas a division of one gas Incorporated

[18:13] non-exclusive franchise and we are going to take these separately we're going to

[18:17] do a first and it's discussion consideration possible action approve

[18:22] approve with modifications or deny the following item a is ordinance number

[18:27] 1417 granting to Oklahoma Natural Gas a

[18:32] division of one gas Incorporated a non-exclusive franchise for the

[18:36] installation operation and maintenance of a gas distribution system in the city

[18:41] of Dale City and the selling of gas therein for a term of 25 years

[18:47] authorized mayor to endorse sane do I hear a motion make a motion to approve

[18:53] ordinance number 1417 authorized mayor to endorse them

[19:01] second

[19:04] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[19:10] yeah would you like to come up to would you

[19:14] come to the podium state your name for the clerk please

[19:18] I'm Marty oyler o-y-l-e-r with Oklahoma Natural Gas mayor and city council it's

[19:24] nice to be here this evening I have a couple of co-workers with me Marlo

[19:27] Freeman our community relations manager and our managing attorney Dustin

[19:31] Frederick is with me this evening I think you have a draft of the franchise

[19:35] and you've had an opportunity to review it we began discussions in November with

[19:41] the mayor and the former city manager and Melissa and since then we've had

[19:46] several conversations via email and otherwise with Beverly Palmer so in

[19:52] front of you you have the draft that we would like to have approved this evening

[19:56] and then it will go to a vote of the people in August on August 8th it will

[20:02] be for a 25 year franchise agreement beginning at 3 percent which you're at

[20:09] three percent now and to just give you an idea of what we're talking about we

[20:14] pulled numbers before we met in November of the last 12 months of the three

[20:20] percent fee that we collected on a residential commercial and Industrial

[20:25] customers not including the transport customers and the amount collected in

[20:30] that 12-month period was 236 thousand dollars

[20:34] so that's that was at three percent so this new draft includes it starts at

[20:39] three percent and then in 2025 it will go to

[20:45] 3.05 percent and then it will go up 0.05 percent every five years

[20:51] until um so 2030 it'll be 3.10 3.15 and 2035

[20:57] and then uh 3.20 in 2040 till the end of the franchise so that'll give you an

[21:04] idea there'll be a little bit of an increase there we do have

[21:08] included in this draft the ability to collect from our transport from the

[21:15] transport customers in your community there are about 30 of those and we would

[21:20] be collecting a fee on the commodity that they are purchasing so our

[21:26] transport customers they pay us directly for the transportation the movement of

[21:31] the gas delivery to them and then they buy the commodity or the natural gas

[21:36] from a third party so we take an average at that cost because we don't know what

[21:40] they pay because they know negotiate that with their supplier so what we do

[21:46] is we just take an average at that from several different sources and we collect

[21:51] the three percent and then provide that as well so that would be the increase if

[21:56] we look at that we did kind of a high level estimate on

[22:00] existing quantities and it looks like that would be about eighteen hundred

[22:06] dollars a month if that if we did all 30 and that does

[22:10] include some schools and so we might want to exclude some of those but

[22:15] they're there

[22:19] all right so it's it's there's a few other words and

[22:24] several pages and I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have and if

[22:29] I can't answer them I know definitely can so we appreciate the partnership for

[22:34] 25 years that we've had with this community and we look forward to a

[22:37] continued partnership any questions so am I section seven it's

[22:42] got duty to move and alter lines can you explain some of those things

[22:48] that you had envisioned that you would pay for okay because it's part of this

[22:54] is It's kind of murky with with public you know excluding private entities

[23:00] which makes sense and and other public entities

[23:03] right so what we are what we will pay to move are our lines in the public ways

[23:11] the relocation uh to expand streets and for the relocation of Ong facilities

[23:19] within public ways to build expand new and existing City buildings

[23:27] so if we're in the public way not private easement but public way then we

[23:32] would move is that so for a public way all of our

[23:38] we have plats in our city and so all the plants dedicate all the utility

[23:44] easements to the city and so our utility easements included in this

[23:53] they are if it's a public

[23:56] it's a private and we're we're there because of a

[24:01] private easement that we've obtained then it is not

[24:04] so a private easement would be that the private landowner for example we

[24:10] so in 1970 if you got it from Mr Epperly and uh who developed a lot of this and

[24:19] then he did the plat and all the lines were in the UT or in the right away in

[24:25] easement would you cover those no if it's pre-existing

[24:32] so so for example oftentimes we have in some communities like that for growth

[24:36] opportunities say the roads expand and so we were private easement

[24:40] and they come in and obtain the ability to expand out

[24:44] four lighting the roads well those were private easements that we had before

[24:47] they become became public so that is not covered

[24:54] under the purchased and easement or you know there's other methods that we could

[24:58] get those easements for all and so we have a

[25:01] a pipeline that goes down Sunny Lane that's in the right hand lane that gets

[25:07] repaired by you guys about once a year once or twice a year just finished up

[25:12] so that one causes us an inconvenience is there a way to get that line moved

[25:19] I would have to look and see what line it is and how large it is and

[25:24] see what the easement rights are there and obviously you've got to have an

[25:27] opportunity to have Lane to move it to as well and so we have lines that cross

[25:32] that follow sunny lane or or in fact that same Lane one that we're talking

[25:37] that's going to most likely cross um I-40 at the sunny lane bridge

[25:44] what do you envision happening whenever four to eight years and they start on

[25:48] the next phase of the highway reconstruction

[25:52] do you envision that that whenever they ask us to go and try to move that

[25:58] pipeline you think that you're at this part which again is all about the roads

[26:02] being moved and it's our city of Del City right away because we were here

[26:06] before I-40 would that one be covered hypothetically you're asking for details

[26:12] I'd have to look in right so if it's an ODOT project

[26:21] some of those projects that are covered by ODOT they provide they reimburse on

[26:25] some of those projects but they're all specific we apply to ODOT for any of

[26:29] those dollars that we can get to reimburse for any revocations so

[26:34] they end up we could hope that they might pay some percentage of it

[26:39] but we've been through this already with Sooner Road in particular where we had

[26:45] to relocate the ONG one and so our city ended up having to pay for you know

[26:51] fully for it or at least 125 000 or so to move that line

[26:56] so we have the interstate expansion happening again and as I read this part

[27:01] the problem that I have with it is is that you have other public entities so

[27:05] whenever we're looking at I-40 the L City existed in 1950 53.

[27:13] 48 sorry 88 1948 OMG yeah 10 you're one gas everybody

[27:20] else you guys came in here very I would assume fairly close to whenever we were

[27:25] there and have adopted this part and the interstate was not there

[27:31] so it was the old cities easement and so

[27:36] I want to see before we go and sign this to get the ease get this part figured

[27:41] out before we go through this whole ritual again about moving

[27:46] pipelines because we definitely know that we're going to be expanding and

[27:50] changing out I-40 and for you know if we paid for the last one

[27:56] and so we would like to see about getting something specified in this part

[28:01] because it's confusing in the contract if we went to court you know it says

[28:04] public entity it's like going it's public ways Public public ways public

[28:08] this part public ways is defined so

[28:12] if the only way the word existing in the location where a pipe is is because it's

[28:16] a public way that's owned by the city that is going to be paid for by us or by

[28:22] the remainder of our customers if we have rights to be there out

[28:31] now that's the easiest way to look at it right so can we get that in a letter so

[28:37] we know that because I understand perfectly that you know that yes you can

[28:41] easily you can easily have a easement again just just like Mr erpperly or

[28:45] whatever that example where you actually paid for that easement and I fully

[28:49] understand that part but this part about us moving the last one as far as I know

[28:54] that was that was a public easement we can look into the details of what that

[28:59] is I don't know what that project was I guess fortunately or unfortunately this

[29:03] is a legal document that's wrapped by attorney so when I look at it I know

[29:07] what that means and the enormous Palmer can understand what that is it's not you

[29:12] know it's a legal contract so it is illegal

[29:16] in public ways as to

[29:19] fund the standard draft that we provide all cities that has standard definitions

[29:24] in it for what all these things are so it's how we

[29:28] there's something in there that it is not understood clearly or misunderstood

[29:34] I'd be more than happy to look back to see if there's some adjustment to the

[29:37] language

[29:41] okay so so I can tell you it is definitely

[29:45] confusing and it's meant and I and I was like going this is great until I read

[29:48] all the caveats to it and it's like going ah this is their way out for each

[29:52] one of these things because because you can go and say that the public entity

[29:55] being Dot well just like you said oh that's

[29:59] Federal money and and so obviously we're not going to do it

[30:02] um so if we could look into that and then the other concern that I have is is

[30:06] that the city of the village is building a

[30:09] park and I've been watching it because my my infrastructure is affected by

[30:14] waiting for them and the village ended up just needing to

[30:17] have an important line that was very it wasn't buried deep enough to get it you

[30:23] know moved or removed in this part and it ended up taking them five months so

[30:27] the construction is going on everything had to come to a complete stop

[30:30] everybody's you know the streets are torn out everything's in a in a mess and

[30:35] as I'm reading this part that you know it's saying that you're going to do it

[30:38] as quickly as possible you know and so

[30:43] are did they have trouble because their contractor contacted you to go and say

[30:47] could you please do this work I'm just kind of trying to understand why would

[30:52] it take five months up at the city of the village

[31:01] the knowing it just

[31:05] just across the state so I do not know the details of every project

[31:10] going back historically that we've had and know the details of what that is and

[31:15] there's many things that can lead to differences of why it takes so long that

[31:18] maybe we're waiting on other utilities to move out of the way before we can

[31:21] move it may be that there is a shortage of specific materials that need to be

[31:26] brought in with you know especially here lately with all kinds of shortages on

[31:30] materials that we're waiting on it could be just Crews themselves or getting into

[31:36] you know there's only so much labor that can be done as well and so

[31:43] does your contractors the guys who are actually doing the work you know and I

[31:47] met a few of them and so forth and do they know that you have this part in

[31:51] contracts with the uh with the easements that says that you know you're going to

[31:55] do it with urgency you know with with some with some sorts

[31:59] of urgency does does the rest of the people know to follow this part you can

[32:04] franchise itself to the communities that they had the franchises whatever

[32:08] specifics on timing in there to say each project is done by a certain amount of

[32:12] time I mean that's just unmanageable to say that

[32:16] of all circumstances we're going to look forward and having there a certain

[32:19] period of time that everything is done obviously projects have

[32:24] time and considerations whether it's emergency whether it's safety related

[32:27] compliance related all those things take precedence and then there's other items

[32:32] that could impact what the time frame is of certain projects being done but yes

[32:36] it is not detailed in a franchise that says every specific project of anything

[32:41] done is going to be done within a certain period of time right but again

[32:44] that particular one was you know yeah right that particular one is the cost of

[32:50] City it costs the city a lot of money and the same way as far as for the right

[32:55] away the city of the village and the same way as for our moving of the Year

[32:59] other things so those are the two things that that you know I just would like to

[33:04] do but on the other hand is thank you for having such a such a thing as this

[33:09] like I said I was very happy to see those parts and like and I would just

[33:13] want to make sure that everybody is clear because you know our lawyer the

[33:18] different people that we ask you know we we have a specific project of I-40

[33:23] that's going to happen and why not go ahead and get this

[33:26] figured out so we have an answer because once we sign this thing we're not going

[33:31] to have this discussion anymore all of a sudden it's going to be no well I would

[33:34] say that we would have discussions of how that's done so you wouldn't be

[33:37] putting specific projects that may or may not occur within a franchise of how

[33:42] you operate so we do have communities that don't have franchises so I I will

[33:46] tell you that having the franchise is very beneficial because it lays out all

[33:49] the roles and responsibilities for both parties not just us but the city as well

[33:53] so there's an understanding so I do think the franchise is very beneficial

[33:57] from that standpoint there are some communities that they don't have a

[34:00] franchise that they're working with and so there's not a document to point to

[34:04] these are the guidelines of how we're going to be working in

[34:08] it's very difficult to take a project that I don't know the specifics about of

[34:11] where the lines in that may or may not occur at some point in the time and give

[34:15] a guarantee on what that is and who's going to fund it and pay for it so so

[34:19] let's talk about a specific this is something that I've been

[34:23] contending with over the last two and a half years

[34:26] the address is 405 South Sunny Lane there's a gas line buried there and it's

[34:32] about six to eight inches deep and we can't pour a sidewalk because the

[34:38] gas line is too shallow we can't dig down and put the sidewalk in there's a

[34:43] section of sidewalk that's out and I have personally been complaining about

[34:48] that gas line for two years everyone smiled they'll send a man with

[34:53] a truck out there and he'll look at it and say yeah that that Line's too

[34:57] shallow our subcontractor ran the line too shallow and he drives off and we

[35:02] never see him again is this

[35:07] it's on sunny lane and

[35:11] it's in the easement because we're trying to put a sidewalk in the easement

[35:15] and we have to stop there because we can't dig down below the gas line

[35:20] and this has been an ongoing problem throughout Midway Village the gas lines

[35:24] are buried too shallow so are you telling me because the gas lines that

[35:30] run east and west from Sunny Lane would probably be in private easement

[35:36] because it's going to be the homeowners backyards that's a private easement

[35:43] yet the the gas line was put in incorrectly in that it was put into

[35:48] shallow and we've never gotten relief from that

[35:52] well but you're saying to relocate that line it becomes not your problem because

[35:58] it's in a private easement and I say it is your problem because you put the gas

[36:03] line in too shallow and there was one hookup that I saw personally and they

[36:09] had to dig under the gas line and go straight down because it was too shallow

[36:14] to come off the side or the top why have we not gotten any service in

[36:22] getting that line deep like it's supposed to be

[36:28] depending on what what are you talking about a main line

[36:31] or a service line service well a main line it's a six inch line that runs it

[36:36] feeds the neighborhood and so there are different requirements we have when

[36:40] construction is done and if it's too shallow and it's on us we will lower it

[36:44] oftentimes we also find in cities where other people privately come and they do

[36:49] grading and things and they will make what used to be a much deeper line a

[36:55] and I've heard that excuse and there's a fence in there that's probably been

[36:59] there 40 years and the trees are grown up around it

[37:03] that line has been there for a long time I I believe we've we've discussed this

[37:09] in the past yeah and I've not seen anything done

[37:13] about it where the line crosses from Sunny Lane Road that's in a public

[37:18] easement that portion is too shallow it's so shallow we can't put a sidewalk

[37:23] there

[37:26] no no

[37:29] the curb has not been lowered and it's just barely at the curb level without

[37:34] the specifics in front of it we would have construction you know records of

[37:37] when it was origin

[37:41] well I know there's two gas lines that run through that neighborhood that are

[37:44] probably six to eight inches deep what's the standard for burying a gas line what

[37:48] depth is

[37:53] you're certainly an attorney I got to give you that well guys I probably know

[37:57] a lot of things there's a lot of differences between what you're doing

[38:00] and you can't just make overarching statements to Encompass all things of

[38:05] course of course but so take note of that

[38:08] address I I'm interested in getting these lines buried at a correct depth

[38:13] now now the problem is if the city comes in and condemns that line for being too

[38:18] shallow all the customers on that line are going to suffer from lack of gas

[38:21] service so it's kind of a rock and a hard place

[38:26] but it's not safe the way it is and so far all we've gotten is a guy to come

[38:30] out with a truck look at it and go yep that's too shallow and he leaves is that

[38:36] no that's a commercial property is that so what's the name of the commercial

[38:40] property Sonny's Auto Trim is the business that's there okay

[38:45] but the line runs south of it runs on the fence line it's it's the property

[38:49] line and no it has not been graded it has not been lowered what I suspect is

[38:55] that line was put in there by a subcontractor and they did horizontal

[38:59] boarding rather than putting in when they were replacing the original steel

[39:03] line they went to that orange plastic and they used a horizontal boring with

[39:09] that and they put it too shallow and we've been complaining about it for two

[39:13] and a half years and we've not getting any responses so right now your track

[39:18] record is is not sitting very well with me

[39:21] we can't finish our sidewalk because your gas line is in the way and that's

[39:25] in the Sunny Lane right away and that's a public easement is the natural gas

[39:29] account

[39:33] there is an account there but that line runs East I'm sorry that run runs West

[39:38] from Sunny Lane and it runs the length of the block it serves the whole block

[39:43] so that's is there a so so I mean both of these you know both of our different

[39:49] examples here is is there going to be a contact or somebody to go in in and do

[39:57] these questions you know to resolve these things instead of you know that

[40:02] you call you know private people different people call out to try to do

[40:05] this they want me to look up the issue in the village oh and we don't we don't

[40:09] need to worry about the bill we don't need to worry about the village Village

[40:13] finally got to talk about on the village we can

[40:16] make some calls we can come

[40:21] around

[40:24] again it's not about a single one it's about finding out how the franchise

[40:30] agreement is going to work because here are some of the examples that we kind of

[40:34] gave you and each one of them that where you look at is is nothing happens

[40:40] they're also actually very specific so but we do have a community relations

[40:44] manager that that would be your contact just in general that you could call if

[40:47] someone has a question be able to know the note yeah

[40:52] so okay and then I would just point out

[40:55] just to make sure you're all aware the franchise does expire in July is when

[41:00] that expires I I did talk to Beverly with the election cycle and just

[41:06] you know for a short period of time we could keep that open and still we met

[41:10] you know technically without the election passing we should not be

[41:12] collecting those dollars from customers because you all are aware it's a collect

[41:16] and remit so every dollar we collected a franchise view from our customers has

[41:20] turned around to this so it's just to collect and remit so I did let her know

[41:26] that to the extent we had a short period of time between if we couldn't make an

[41:30] election prior to the expiration that we would continue collecting those for a

[41:34] short Arena businesses just so we're clear this is technically a July

[41:37] election but if we were to host it it would fall on July 4th the Tuesday July

[41:42] 4th would be the election is that right Beverly

[41:45] so we're moving it to August the election board has to be open for early

[41:49] voting and because of that the election board employees would have to work on

[41:53] the fourth of July if we did a July election the the day of voting is not

[41:57] but early voting is so they'd have to be open so to accommodate them they

[42:01] actually called me and asked to see would that be appropriate and acceptable

[42:05] and then I reached out to Ong and they said that that would be fine for one

[42:10] month all right so another thing I didn't see in here is this

[42:14] um is Ong paying for the election yes and uh

[42:21] I I think that should be it that's it all right I'm have something to say

[42:26] thank you so much for being here you guys again I am quite new

[42:31] um so I did want to first of all um thank you guys so much for being here

[42:36] um OMG of course is something that we cannot live without so I appreciate you

[42:40] guys paying attention to our concerns knowing now the timeline

[42:45] um I think that that's something that we would be able to discuss and I think

[42:49] communication and building that relationship is probably where we would

[42:54] really benefit from so getting to know her hopefully being able to address

[42:58] those uh personal issues or some of those individual issues I know you guys

[43:03] will be able to do that for us and hopefully thank goodness for councilman

[43:08] Dean who asked all the right questions and uh we can always depend on him to be

[43:13] able to keep an eye out for us as well although I know that you guys are are

[43:18] here to do the right thing but I think with speaking I'd love to actually speak

[43:23] with you and and meet with you in more in depth so then that way we can get to

[43:27] know each other and hopefully start addressing some of these issues for some

[43:31] of our citizens because I know you guys do a great job so thank you guys for

[43:34] being here what

[43:38] fix it okay

[43:42] all right moving on we're at item a we have a motion and a second is there any

[43:46] further discussion yes so at this point we have a contract that does not that is

[43:53] not specific enough

[43:55] for us to know and we have projects that are going to be 100 000 or more that we

[44:01] already know about coming up so my thought is that we

[44:06] wait till the next meeting that we have an answer or a better specification on

[44:11] it because it wouldn't take long for them to look at their maps to figure out

[44:14] how many times they cross I-40 yeah and come back and tell us that we're going

[44:18] to cover this one and this one and not this one because this one's in the

[44:21] private easement and we all agree and and we have something documented

[44:26] so again I-40 was not there whenever our easements went in so we should not have

[44:33] to pay for it like we did last time so um City attorney are we going to be on

[44:38] timeline for an August 8 election if we postpone this two weeks

[44:47] putting it on this one was making it a little bit tight

[44:52] we have to have everything submitted at least 60 days before so perhaps we could

[44:57] do june even when I submitted it the first time I thought we had enough

[45:00] leeway and they actually needed excessive so if we did

[45:05] did it do it one more continuance it have to be May 15th but I think what

[45:09] they need is specific addresses specific what's going to happen on I-40 exactly

[45:15] where is it because you can't talk in generalities you have to look at each

[45:19] property record and easement and what's there and how they come how they've

[45:25] acquired it and that's going to make the determination but unless they know the

[45:28] exact places I think it will be very difficult for them to give an answer so

[45:33] we could we could move ahead with ordinance 1417 and then when the final

[45:39] issues are hammered out in the contract then assign the contract

[45:43] is that that's doable yes we can do that so do this however if

[45:51] we don't like the contract we don't sign the contract well no you're we already

[45:55] have the election

[45:58] so I mean you can't do you can't do that without having your having this stuff

[46:03] done and it would you know and again I I called and tried to talk

[46:09] to everybody and everybody was going down to I think I had a bell or

[46:12] somewhere last meeting yeah um

[46:15] so again you can't

[46:19] call the election whenever we don't know what we're elected on right I think we

[46:23] could perhaps put it on the next agenda once again and see would that give you

[46:28] enough time Dustin to be able to look at all the

[46:32] specific only specifics and I'm sorry to do this

[46:35] is this the mayor has a great thing and not you know but the only ones that

[46:40] truly make a a huge difference to the city is as we know for a fact that we're

[46:44] going to be moving gas lines all it would take me is about two

[46:49] minutes to look at your gas gas line map and ask you about these you know you

[46:54] know whichever runs across is under I'm 40.

[47:04] Hey sir sir just yes right so 940. okay does the other two understand this is

[47:09] that you've had you had the maps you know how many times you crossed the

[47:13] interstate between and it's going to be treasure Creek which is just to the east

[47:17] of uh that's where they stopped the under the construction and it goes over

[47:21] to Bryant and so in that distance you just look

[47:26] for those Crossings and we get an answer on those crosses and we and like I said

[47:30] maybe you have one main line that you have a private easement from the

[47:34] beginning sure you don't pay for that one but the

[47:36] ones that we have these let's just bring those things in or have your guys come

[47:40] because it is a time crunch I would like for you guys to get it done

[47:50] this isn't a maybe a project this is going to be a project

[47:54] I would say let's just go ahead and vote on this this evening

[48:12] finding out

[48:19] for me to answer

[48:23] does our community direct do you understand what we're asking for

[48:27] okay okay and can we get that done in the

[48:31] next two weeks before our next meeting so we have an answer

[48:34] because if not we're not going to make it in August

[48:41] why would it why would this be difficult either one you're in the right of way

[48:45] and the easement or you're not in easement this isn't this isn't a rocket

[48:49] science type of thing is it either one it applies or it doesn't do you remember

[48:53] how you said that the attorney should be able to answer that question for us you

[48:59] can't answer the question I mean it again if it's in right away then yes you

[49:02] guys do it and if it's not in it if it's in a private easement then we do it

[49:07] we understand that right

[49:11] I'm not asking you to do that do you understand okay okay hold it hold it all

[49:17] right that's enough that's enough look we can approve this ordinance

[49:23] and then not signing the contract until we get the answers that we know even

[49:28] though it's scheduled for election we can still work this out we have plenty

[49:31] of time to work this out let's move forward with this let's vote on this we

[49:36] have a motion in a second let's vote on it and we we're just not going to sign

[49:40] the existing contract that's presented to us tonight

[49:44] that will give the City attorney time to walk through it and and consider some of

[49:49] these objections that we're talking about here

[49:52] can you do that Beverly yes I can certainly do that but it kind of comes

[49:56] down to the specifics on each location as they said if it's something that they

[50:00] had pre-existing that they bought from somebody whether it be a long long time

[50:04] ago if they paid to be there and they had the right they will not pay if it's

[50:09] ours and they're an R right away then they'll pay and I sent out examples to

[50:13] councilman Dean okay so it will depend on every location and you'd have to look

[50:18] at each spot along the way we're specifically asking about Crossing I-40

[50:23] because we know that's coming in about five six years and that's why we're

[50:26] being specific about that piece but that term the terminology would also apply to

[50:31] that and I'm satisfied that that we can work that so

[50:35] all right let's move forward we have a motion and a second on the floor

[50:40] let's take the vote councilman Finch aye councilman Gandy

[50:45] aye councilman Brown

[50:49] aye councilman Dean no mayor votes I the motion carries let's

[50:54] move on to Item B resolution number zero five zero one two zero two three a

[50:59] calling and holding a special election in the city of Del City for the purpose

[51:03] of granting a non-exclusive franchise to Oklahoma Natural Gas a division of one

[51:09] gas Incorporated a franchise for the installation operation and maintenance

[51:13] of a gas distribution system in the city of Dale City and the selling

[51:18] of gas therein for a term of 25 years authorized mayor to endorse same direct

[51:24] staff accordingly do I hear a motion so we just approved the contract in Ina

[51:33] not his final form granting a non-exclusive franchise for this part

[51:39] I don't understand what you just what you just approved there okay

[51:48] do I hear a motion on Item B I'll make a motion to approve zero five zero one

[51:54] 2023-a as written authorized mayor to endure same direct staff accordingly

[52:00] second

[52:06] we have a motion and a second is there any discussion

[52:11] take the vote councilman Finch aye councilman Brown

[52:15] aye councilman Gandy

[52:43] uh no councilman Dean

[52:47] now mayor votes I the motion carries item number see discussion consideration

[52:53] possible acts to approve approve with modifications or deny a special election

[52:57] Proclamation wherein the mayor of the city of Dale City calls a special

[53:01] election to be held on August 8 2023 for the purpose of the election by

[53:07] registered qualified electors for Grant taking a non-exclusive franchise to

[53:13] Oklahoma Natural Gas a division of one gas Incorporated for the installation

[53:18] operation and maintenance of a gas distribution system in the city of Dell

[53:23] City and the selling of gas they're in for a term of 25 years and specifying

[53:28] polling places authorized mayor to endorse same direct staff accordingly do

[53:33] I hear a motion I'll make a motion to approve as written

[53:39] authorized American door same direct staff accordingly

[53:44] second

[53:47] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[53:51] yes so once again an item a

[53:55] with the ordinance

[53:58] we're done with item a I'm sorry I'm discussing the item C thank you but

[54:05] Madam counselor is there any way to keep them signing

[54:09] the contract as it's in how to make the items because we've approved it and

[54:16] it says to have the mayor endorse the same so with the way that it's been done

[54:20] is there any way you know any of these different thoughts or questions or

[54:24] clarifications is there any reason for them to do this the reason to approve

[54:30] and have a special election Proclamation is so that we can have the election the

[54:35] items that are going to the people are do we want to continue on with a 25-year

[54:42] agreement with Ong or do we not in the election they are not reading every word

[54:47] of our ordinance so I believe that we could possibly massage this and what's

[54:52] in the packet about what the proclamation is and what the resolution

[54:56] is is that we're going to continue on with this relationship so I think that

[54:59] you could be able to do this and we could still modify within a short time

[55:04] the ordinance that we would want to get that on file this is basically to allow

[55:09] us to call an election

[55:14] all right but we didn't authorize a modification

[55:19] to a

[55:22] pre-approved so we're on item C I know mayor but

[55:28] we're gonna do the special election again that's the question that's the

[55:33] question but again for everybody to know is the only way to at all possibly slow

[55:38] down this train that that we have now made a mistake on in item a

[55:43] by trying to rush this thing through is to stop one of these two

[55:48] just stop what to stop item C or B

[55:56] if we don't approve item C so the question is is in item a we approved it

[56:01] as it was written there's no modification there as it's written it

[56:04] says ordinance number 04 or 1417 granting to Oklahoma Natural Gas a

[56:10] division of one gas a non-exclusive franchise for the installation operation

[56:14] and maintenance of a gas distribution system in the city of Del City and the

[56:19] selling of gas therein for a term of 25 years authorized mayor to endorse things

[56:23] so that says we are grading a franchise that does not dictate the terms of the

[56:28] franchise

[56:31] which item dictates the terms of the franchise and at what point do we what

[56:36] point do we the actual contract dictates the terms and so which of these items

[56:41] actually allows that contract to be reviewed by Council the the council

[56:46] approving of that contract that that's the question that I understand okay I

[56:52] understand City attorney

[56:55] you're talking about massaging the contract that's what we're talking about

[56:58] is making the contract work

[57:04] councilman Gandy does have a good point when he said that they it's supposed to

[57:08] be approved or approved with modifications or deny and I believe that

[57:11] the motion was for approve although we did speak about the modifications so

[57:15] perhaps we need to clarify what the approval is to approve with

[57:20] modifications on item a is that I think that's what

[57:25] councilman Dean are you suggesting that we go back and re-run item a and approve

[57:32] with modifications with modifications yes I'm okay with that

[57:36] that proposal so we're going to retract that vote

[57:41] now we're getting in some Uncharted water I think that we would be modifying

[57:46] the uh the motion on part a and the approved with modifications

[57:54] because I think we should have made that approved with modifications is what

[57:57] you're saying correct okay let's let's go back and

[58:02] look at that we're back at item a and I will call for a motion and

[58:08] hopefully the motion will be approved with modification

[58:11] you'll make that motion

[58:15] unless you want to modify your most I mean

[58:17] yes I would like to do that I would like to amend the item a

[58:23] ordinance number 1417. to say that

[58:29] approved with modification approved with modifications and authorized Merit to

[58:33] endorse them second

[58:38] I'm not used to writing CB down there I'll have to get into that she she would

[58:43] like you to uh Kyle you were the one you seconded so you need to Second it second

[58:48] yes that'll be cow Gandy

[58:52] all right we have a motion in a second the motion is now to approve with

[58:55] modifications everybody good

[59:00] let's take a vote councilman Finch aye councilman Gandy aye councilman Brown

[59:05] aye councilman Dean aye mayor votes aye the motion carries it is now approved

[59:09] with modification is like pulling teeth

[59:14] um we've got to backtrack to item C now and item C was discussion consideration

[59:20] possible likes to approve approved with modifications or deny a special election

[59:23] Proclamation according to mayor of the city of Dale City calls for a special

[59:27] election to be held on August 8 2023 for the purpose of the election by

[59:31] registered qualified electors for granting a non-exclusive franchise to

[59:36] Oklahoma Natural Gas a division of one gas Incorporated for the installation

[59:40] operation and maintenance of a gas distribution system in the city of Del

[59:44] City and the selling of gas therein for a term of 25 years and specifying

[59:49] polling places authorized mayor to endure same direct staff accordingly we

[59:55] previously had a motion by Pam Finch does your motion stand

[59:59] yes it does we have a second by Claudia Brown as your second stand yes it does

[1:00:04] let's call is there any discussion let's call for a vote councilman Finch

[1:00:10] councilman Brown aye councilman Gandy aye councilman Dean

[1:00:15] aye mayor votes I the motion carries thank you very much yes ma'am

[1:01:03] we'll be in touch and I think Mr Houck our city manager he

[1:01:09] he's fully aware of what's going on here and I'm sure that he could he would be

[1:01:14] happy to do it you don't need to meet with all of us is as uh he knows he

[1:01:18] knows the issues and he'll take good care of us and so that way we can

[1:01:21] expedite it on our side the city manager and I will make ourselves available

[1:01:26] thank you okay let's move on we're going back to

[1:01:29] item number eight donation by Parker Brothers for Armed Forces Day in

[1:01:34] Shriners parade

[1:01:37] what

[1:01:41] Okay so

[1:01:44] she's hungry let's finish eight and then we'll go to

[1:01:49] queso discussion consideration possible acts

[1:01:52] to accept or decline a sponsorship check from the Parker Brothers Roofing Company

[1:01:55] in the amount of 670.94 for the annual Armed Forces Day

[1:02:00] Parade in Shriners parade on Saturday May 6 2023 at 10 A.M declare deny a

[1:02:07] public purpose do I hear a motion I'm going to make a motion that we accept a

[1:02:12] sponsorship check from Parker Brothers Roofing Company in the amount of

[1:02:16] 670.94 for the annual Armed Forces Day and Shriners parade

[1:02:21] declare a public purpose second

[1:02:27] we have a motion and a second is there any discussion take the vote councilman

[1:02:31] Gandy aye councilman Dean aye councilman Finch

[1:02:35] councilman Brown aye mayor votes I the motion carries uh

[1:02:40] let's item number nine

[1:02:44] donation by Walmart of seed packets on behalf of the park and beautification

[1:02:48] committee discussion consideration possible acts to accept or decline a

[1:02:52] donation of seed packets in the monetary amount of two thousand

[1:02:57] dollars from Walmart located at 5401 Tinker diagonal Street Del City Oklahoma

[1:03:02] this donation will be used in the bi-annual seed chairs Armed Forces Day

[1:03:07] Parade flower beds and Community Gardens declare or deny a public purpose

[1:03:13] do I hear a motion I'll make a motion to accept as written and declare it a

[1:03:19] public purpose so that there is a flower on every corner of Del City

[1:03:24] second

[1:03:27] would you take it as a compliment if I said you were a CD person

[1:03:32] laughs I mean that in the best possible way

[1:03:38] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[1:03:41] take the vote councilman Finch aye councilman Dean aye councilman Brown

[1:03:46] aye councilman Gandy aye their votes eye the motion carries item number 10 is

[1:03:51] monthly update from the chief of police discussion consideration possible action

[1:03:56] to approved receiving a monthly update from the chief of police do I hear a

[1:04:00] motion I make a motion that we have a monthly

[1:04:05] update from the chief of police second

[1:04:11] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[1:04:15] take the vote councilman Brown aye councilman Gandy aye councilman Dean

[1:04:21] councilman Finch aye mayor votes hi the motion carries Chief burger what do you

[1:04:26] got for us are you enjoying those new pickups

[1:04:31] absolutely wonderful good I picked up two more today up at the Outfitters so

[1:04:36] they're just finishing up on the last two and they'll all be on the streets

[1:04:40] here very shortly they look good they look sharp out there

[1:04:44] we've had a very busy month we started off and done some in-service training

[1:04:49] here we've done our semi-annual pistol shotgun qualifications

[1:04:53] we've done some Led T training for the drivers training we actually got some of

[1:04:57] those trucks out there and see how they performed and got the guys are going to

[1:05:00] be driving some of those trucks out there sometime on the trucks because

[1:05:03] they do handle quite differently than the sedans they've been driving or the

[1:05:07] SUVs so that was much needed for those two

[1:05:12] uh I know you mentioned the rose State

[1:05:15] earlier thank you for that that was pretty trying time

[1:05:19] it was City got flooded with 9-1-1 calls when that incident happened and they

[1:05:24] rolled over to us so we knew right away with the 911 coming in what was going on

[1:05:29] sent officers over there to assist them once things calmed down a little bit we

[1:05:35] were able to help them and go through some of the buildings there on the

[1:05:37] campus and secure and make sure everything was clear on those so

[1:05:41] we'll reach out to them any kind any time we can on that

[1:05:46] uh flock cameras if you haven't noticed they're starting to go up around the

[1:05:50] city we'll still lack about four of them they sent me a notice this morning

[1:05:53] they're looking at site surveys on the last four

[1:05:57] but we've got the other uh we've been getting quite a big uh

[1:06:02] response out of them and we've had several good recoveries out of them from

[1:06:07] stolen vehicles wanted people without too much detail we had one here

[1:06:12] a couple weeks ago that was an Uber driver was

[1:06:16] robbed at knifepoint and Kansas I believe it was oh good I was going to

[1:06:21] say not Dale City no I thinking stole the car and that and ended up here in

[1:06:26] Del City so

[1:06:29] they didn't come here to go to church but we were able to get them off the

[1:06:34] street and recovered and get the property back very good and we've had

[1:06:37] some others just recently with stolen cars and property returns it's a pretty

[1:06:42] quick hit on these returns so the officers are jumping right on so working

[1:06:48] very good we put our

[1:06:51] the flock transparency portal is on our website service now if you go to the Del

[1:06:55] City page the police department page on the online services you can see the

[1:07:01] transparency portal for flock and that says exactly what we do with it and what

[1:07:06] we record and how long it's recorded and what it's used for so just to be

[1:07:10] transparent with public on that

[1:07:13] I met with the Commander in charge of the OSI operations office of special

[1:07:18] investigations at Tinker just to build that relationship to work with them make

[1:07:23] sure that we can work with them in any conjunction I show them our flock

[1:07:27] cameras have them access to our block cameras too because they do a lot of

[1:07:30] search for like AWOL people and stuff in the military and other investigations

[1:07:34] and we want to be a part of that where we can help them out too

[1:07:38] Metrotech is having their graduation from the cleat

[1:07:42] Basic Police Academy this Friday and I have one graduating in that we had two

[1:07:47] in the academy one actually got hurt here about two weeks ago during the

[1:07:50] defensive tactics so once he recovers we'll get him back and finished up in

[1:07:55] that program but we do have one Zachary Hong who will be graduating this coming

[1:08:00] Friday looking forward to getting him out there and on the street

[1:08:04] we're all set and ready to go on the parade there's been a lot of work on

[1:08:07] that Brittany and everybody involved in cities that put a lot of hours into that

[1:08:11] and we're hoping for a very successful and safe parade for everybody

[1:08:18] I have the department policies that you know we've been working on for a long

[1:08:22] time I finally made those public they're on our website also if you go to the

[1:08:27] police department page and you go down to the department forums and links if

[1:08:31] there's a tab up there at the top of that you can go down to the bottom of

[1:08:34] that page click on it and you have access as the public to any of our

[1:08:38] department policies if you want to know what the department policy is on a

[1:08:41] specific item there it is for you to look at so it's a big move for us to do

[1:08:47] that

[1:08:52] that's all I got answer any questions

[1:08:55] did I miss um where are we at with the with the body cameras and did I miss

[1:09:00] that part nope nope body cameras we have them all in we have

[1:09:06] logged them on and got them onto the server and everything as of today we

[1:09:10] have training set up for them on the 12th

[1:09:13] officers have been doing on some online training right now going looking at some

[1:09:17] videos and training and then we will have actual online uh training on them

[1:09:21] on the 12th of this month on the 13th will be the first day that they're on

[1:09:25] the streets and recording so looking forward to that excellent

[1:09:30] you can say no to this but would you just address the Southeast 44th CVS

[1:09:36] issue that was on social media if you can say anything

[1:09:40] just to put sure hearts and ease on that sure

[1:09:43] um that came up on social media real fast

[1:09:46] and if you didn't see it there's a short video that a citizen took of a

[1:09:52] male subject and more of a stocking mask and carrying

[1:09:55] what looked to be a weapon rifle and headed toward the front of the CVS

[1:10:00] he never made it into the CVS he was in the parking lot he actually started

[1:10:06] south of 44th in Oklahoma City pointing it whatever he was doing over

[1:10:11] there Oklahoma City Police got the call originally

[1:10:15] they responded then we started getting calls and and reports of it

[1:10:20] our officers arrived just about the time Oklahoma City was taking him into

[1:10:24] custody it was male subject that had a lot of mental health problems it was not

[1:10:29] a real gun it was an airsoft gun he never made it in to our CVS he was only

[1:10:35] in our section a very short time before he went back across the street where

[1:10:38] Oklahoma City and County but he was taken in custody for mental health

[1:10:42] issues thank you

[1:10:45] all right I've tried to offend some of the social media to put some of the

[1:10:50] aspects of it and of course I got grammar check today so I had to go back

[1:10:54] in and correct my grammar but it's always good that the citizens know the

[1:11:00] details especially in situations like that because one guy was saying oh it

[1:11:03] was AK-47 she's like okay no it wasn't no no airsoft gun it looked real from

[1:11:10] what I saw in this short video it looked real

[1:11:12] and I'm very thankful that nothing serious happened out of it so just

[1:11:17] thankful that the guy wasn't shot yes very much those usually have orange tips

[1:11:22] don't they had he doctored that or covered that I don't I didn't get a

[1:11:25] close look at it I couldn't tell you just from the short blip I saw on the

[1:11:29] video I would have thought it was real yeah so okay very good

[1:11:35] thank you Chief you bet

[1:11:39] let's move on to item number 11 FEMA Center for domestic preparedness

[1:11:43] training out-of-state travel training for two police officers

[1:11:48] discussion consideration possible acts to approve or deny the out-of-state

[1:11:52] travel and training for two police officers Lieutenant Kyle Preston and

[1:11:56] officer Brandon eckleberry to attend the FEMA Center for domestic preparedness

[1:12:01] training FEMA will pay for the coursework airfare ground transportation

[1:12:06] lodging and meals for the duration of the training do you want to hear a

[1:12:11] motion make a motion that we approve the travel and training as written

[1:12:17] second

[1:12:20] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[1:12:24] they're going to feed Kyle Preston

[1:12:31] I'll be bringing more of this to you in the future I recently

[1:12:36] started a ERT team Emergency Response Team this is a difference a lot of

[1:12:41] people think SWAT and tactical that's not this that's not my purpose with this

[1:12:45] an ERT team would be going to natural disasters

[1:12:51] we've got another places

[1:12:56] uh searches like that that's what this team is designed to do no crowd control

[1:13:02] if we were to have a crowd control issue uh searching for people going to the

[1:13:07] tornado scenes whatever that's what these guys are going to be training to

[1:13:10] do so this is a great program and actually Tracy Powell with our human

[1:13:14] resources turned me on to this and it's a place down there in Alabama it's

[1:13:18] Federal Center and they offer all kinds of training like this and we have a

[1:13:23] seven-man team for the ERT and I want to get them all through very similar

[1:13:27] training and there's a lot more Swiftwater training that's local that I

[1:13:31] can get to the quick North Fire Chief and also with Oklahoma City on that but

[1:13:36] there's there's several different areas that I want to go with this team and

[1:13:39] it's just kind of an idea where I'm headed I love it very good

[1:13:46] we have a motion and a second any further discussion

[1:13:50] take the vote councilman Dean aye councilman Gandy aye councilman Brown

[1:13:55] aye councilman Finch mayor votes on the motion carries item

[1:13:59] number 12 is Surplus items discussion consideration possible action to declare

[1:14:04] deny the items listed in exhibit B to the council agenda as a surplus to the

[1:14:09] city's needs authorized final disposition of these items as approved

[1:14:13] by the acting city manager do you want to hear a motion make a motion we

[1:14:18] declare the items in exhibit B on the council agenda Surplus to the

[1:14:23] city's needs authorized final disposition of these items as approved

[1:14:27] by the city manager second

[1:14:33] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion I got a question is there

[1:14:37] a way a lot of this stuff seemed like it was

[1:14:40] trash or small things or things less than like a hundred dollars or fifty

[1:14:45] dollars is there any way can you guys throw away anything or are we limited to

[1:14:49] uh to a couple of rules on that if there is

[1:14:53] electricity running through it you have to approve it and if it has a tag on it

[1:14:58] anytime for example if in the previous 25 years someone inventory to pencil

[1:15:02] once it hit in inventory it's got to leave inventory in or out so now we have

[1:15:07] taken it to where if there are negligible things under fifty dollars is

[1:15:10] our is our threshold those won't come back on here but these are all things

[1:15:14] that are ancient in nature so because they've had an asset tag on them from

[1:15:18] years and years ago we have to list it officially

[1:15:22] okay any further discussion

[1:15:26] take the vote councilman Gandy councilman Finch aye councilman Dean

[1:15:31] councilman Brown aye mayor votes aye the motion carries

[1:15:34] item number 13 is mutual cooperation agreement with Oklahoma County Bryant

[1:15:39] Avenue resurfacing discussion consideration possible action to approve

[1:15:44] approved with modifications or deny Street repairs to be completed by

[1:15:48] Oklahoma County for the Reconstruction of Bryant Avenue from Southeast 29th

[1:15:53] Street to Southeast 44th Street the project will be a rebuild of the

[1:15:58] asphalt road in the amount of 145 858 dollars authorized mayor to endorse

[1:16:06] same direct staff accordingly do I hear a motion

[1:16:11] and commotion that we approve repairs to be completed by Oklahoma

[1:16:15] County for the Reconstruction of Bryan Avenue from Southeast 29 to Southeast

[1:16:19] 44th Street the project will be a rebuild of the

[1:16:23] asphalt road in the amount of 145 858 authorized Mary to endorse same tricks

[1:16:29] staff accordingly

[1:16:33] second

[1:16:37] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[1:16:40] take the vote councilman Dean councilman Brown

[1:16:45] aye councilman Connell Gandy

[1:16:50] aye councilman Finch hi it's like naming

[1:16:54] your kids you know you have to go through the whole role sorry mayor votes

[1:16:58] eye the motion carries

[1:17:07] move on to item number 14 Labor Max Staffing temporary seasonal employees

[1:17:13] discussion consideration possible action approve approved with modifications or

[1:17:17] deny a contract with LaborMax Staffing to provide temporary seasonal employees

[1:17:22] for fiscal year 2023-2024 authorized mayor to endorse

[1:17:27] same direct staff accordingly Public Works will utilize the seasonal

[1:17:32] employees for general labor in the parks department do I hear a motion

[1:17:37] I'll make a motion to approve temporary seasonal employees for fiscal year 2023

[1:17:43] 2024 of the right smear to endorse they direct staff accordingly second

[1:17:52] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[1:17:56] take to vote councilman Finch aye councilman Gandy

[1:18:00] aye councilman Brown aye councilman Dean aye mayor votes I

[1:18:04] the motion carries skip on down to item number 16 preparation of annual

[1:18:09] financial statements for physical year 2023.

[1:18:14] discussion consideration possible acts to approve approved with modifications

[1:18:18] or deny engaging Crawford and Associates PCS CPA an accounting firm specializing

[1:18:25] in serving governmental entities to prepare the annual financial statements

[1:18:30] for fiscal year ending June 30 2023 not to exceed forty two thousand dollars

[1:18:35] authorized mayor to endorse same direct staff accordingly do I hear a motion

[1:18:43] make a motion that we approve engage in Crawford and Associates PCA

[1:18:47] CPA and accounting firm special specializing in serving

[1:18:54] governmental entities to prepare the annual financial statements for physical

[1:18:57] year ending June 30th 2023 not to exceed forty two thousand dollars authorized

[1:19:03] murder endorse same direct staff corn link

[1:19:06] second

[1:19:09] we have a motion and a second is there any discussion

[1:19:13] take the vote councilman Dean councilman Gandy councilman Brown

[1:19:18] aye councilman Finch aye mayor of Oaks aye the motion carries before we get

[1:19:22] into item number 17 I will entertain a motion to adjourn the council

[1:19:28] a recess the council meeting and moved to the

[1:19:34] Dale City municipal Services Authority make a motion we recess to dcmsa

[1:19:40] second

[1:19:45] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[1:19:49] take the vote councilman Gandy aye councilman Brown

[1:19:54] aye councilman Finch councilman Dean aye mayor votes I we are now recessed to the

[1:20:00] Del City municipal Services Authority Melissa would you call the roll please

[1:20:07] trustee Gandy here trustee Brown here trustee Finch or trustee Dean in

[1:20:15] chairman Eason chairman is here is there any public input on non-agenda

[1:20:20] items is there anybody that like to speak to the dcmsa

[1:20:24] on non-agenda items see none any trustees have anything

[1:20:30] seeing none move on to the manager's report item four

[1:20:35] item five is a consent docket this discussion consideration possible action

[1:20:39] approved the following items by unanimous consent with one motion item a

[1:20:43] is minutes of April 17 2023 regular meeting of DC MSA prove the minutes of

[1:20:49] the regular meeting of DC MSA of April 17 2023.

[1:20:54] Item B is a budget amendment approved the budget amendment for fiscal year

[1:20:59] 2022-2023 as shown in exhibit a to the DC MSA agenda do I hear a motion make a

[1:21:05] motion we approve items A and B as written

[1:21:09] second

[1:21:13] I want my button checked

[1:21:18] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion take the vote trustee

[1:21:22] Gandy aye trustee Finch aye trustee Dean trustee Brown

[1:21:28] aye chair votes I the motion carries move on to item number six invitation to

[1:21:33] bid number zero two one seven Advanced metering infrastructure Ami water meters

[1:21:39] we'll take these separate we'll do item a first public hearing discussion

[1:21:44] consideration possible accident approve or deny holding a public hearing

[1:21:48] regarding itb0217 Advanced metering infrastructure

[1:21:54] water meters for electronic water meters and readers for the city to improve the

[1:21:59] accuracy of the consumption of water do I hear a motion I make a motion that we

[1:22:05] hold a public hearing regarding itv0217 Advance metering infrastructure

[1:22:11] water meters for electronic water meters and readers for the city to improve the

[1:22:16] accuracy of the consumption of water requested by Public Works uh director

[1:22:23] Mike Hatfield second

[1:22:29] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[1:22:33] take the vote trustee Brown

[1:22:37] aye trustee Finch aye trustee Dean aye trustee Gandy aye the chairman votes I

[1:22:43] the public hearing portion is now open who is going to present this Mike are

[1:22:49] you presenting or is it crazy Hatfield has got your name on it

[1:22:54] yeah

[1:23:02] say that again Bruce beaver

[1:23:10] okay and Mr Dan Hardin with IUS

[1:23:15] okay they can answer the very technical

[1:23:19] questions before we get technical if you can just

[1:23:22] give us an overview of why we're doing this as a city and then I'll go into the

[1:23:26] financial and then we can go into specifics all right

[1:23:29] um this is bringing our

[1:23:32] older meters up to current standards

[1:23:38] we have some possibly some meters dating back to the 60s if that's where I was

[1:23:43] going we haven't been quite old only a few in the 60s but we have some in the

[1:23:47] 70s but as they're like a car they wear out so this will bring them up to new

[1:23:52] standards the newer meters we're looking at are non-moving parks so they do not

[1:23:57] wear out like the current ones we have these are also automated readers

[1:24:03] or leader excuse me that um basically they will send a signal

[1:24:08] back to Seattle City Hall and they actually will get a read in hourly or

[1:24:15] it'll tell you basically how many gallons you use every hour

[1:24:20] so we can be able to see people that have leaks and know when they have to

[1:24:24] leak you can you can set an alarm spike in usage at a house if a person's

[1:24:31] water pipe freezes and bursts we'll be able to monitor that there's a customer

[1:24:37] portal that comes along with this to where each homeowner can either set

[1:24:41] alarms for so much use or different parameters they can set for so much

[1:24:47] usage or fast usage I believe there's a lot of

[1:24:52] different aspects that will be really nice to have

[1:24:57] another Advantage is instead of having four meter readers out there we can

[1:25:02] reassign three of them to say Parks and Rec and just have one meter reader

[1:25:08] and we'll be getting the accurate readings not dependent on the guy going

[1:25:13] out and having to move a brush pile to find the meter to dig in and get it so

[1:25:18] that's a tremendous advantage in the Savings in Manpower

[1:25:22] love to have these during the ice storm plus the accuracy that's a big factor

[1:25:29] for the city because we're we're experiencing a lot more water is going

[1:25:33] out than is being accounted for all right

[1:25:36] do you know how many other cities use this

[1:25:45] I mean these are worldwide it's not a

[1:25:50] I mean there's different companies different configurations but

[1:25:55] uh be similar across the board this new

[1:26:00] okay this is a 20-year program is that right

[1:26:05] the

[1:26:08] um that's the goal is to have them now

[1:26:13] they're going to be able to explain this more honey

[1:26:18] let's go ahead and bring them up

[1:26:26] okay

[1:26:29] who's going to go first Dan or Bruce

[1:26:36] okay you hello uh my name is Dan Hardin I'm

[1:26:39] the president of innovative utility Solutions so yeah feel free to ask any

[1:26:43] questions I know Craig had sent us three questions originally before this meeting

[1:26:48] I'll go ahead and address those one of the questions was what happens when this

[1:26:52] goes from since it is a cellular based technology the radio information what

[1:26:56] happens when it goes from 4G to 5G to 6G to 7g is it out of commission the answer

[1:27:01] to that is no the only thing that changes as we're upgrading to the

[1:27:05] generational networks is with your cell phones this operates on a network called

[1:27:09] cat M1 which is a lower level of cellular technology

[1:27:14] um so it's the same that police fire and military use it's a much lower level

[1:27:18] because all we're sending is little bits of data so it could go to 20g 30g it

[1:27:22] doesn't matter this will stay the same okay

[1:27:24] um so it's completely different than the typical ones you would use for your cell

[1:27:27] phone so so we have no anticipation of that ever going away it's actually the

[1:27:30] same technology they're using on the little scooters that you see in downtown

[1:27:34] areas dog collars little bits of information so that will stay standard

[1:27:39] for the next 20 to 30 years okay the next question was in regards to any

[1:27:44] Legacy costs so I wasn't really sure what you guys were asking as far as

[1:27:48] Legacy costs but the way we bid this is a complete 20-year

[1:27:52] package so the way smarter Technologies does their pricing is they go out into

[1:27:58] the cellular market and they buy the data in bulk and so we get a huge

[1:28:02] discount on buying all this data so we can price you a 20-year system without

[1:28:07] any additional cost for the next 20 years so we're buying all that data all

[1:28:11] the software hosting everything in bulk so that way there's no additional cost

[1:28:16] for the system the way we fit it which includes integration into your billing

[1:28:20] software and the consumer portal the only other additional cost that may

[1:28:24] arise is if you ever wanted us to take our software and integrate it into a GIS

[1:28:29] software or a work order software any additional

[1:28:33] software Integrations that would be a separate price which we would discuss

[1:28:36] beforehand so the Legacy question was when we get

[1:28:40] your meters that are you know 4.5 is the version and you come out with 6.0 7.0

[1:28:45] 8.5 you're not going to have to send us a a fee because now your seven

[1:28:50] generations ahead and we're still on the same 20-year plan right so no there will

[1:28:55] not that includes all additional upgrades and features that come with it

[1:28:59] for the next 20 years our endpoints are 2A connectivity so we

[1:29:05] can actually send over the over there to them so if a new feature

[1:29:09] comes out we can set another upgrade back at

[1:29:13] silver the next any upgrades

[1:29:16] will absolutely be yeah very similar to your cell phone

[1:29:19] when you get apple that sends you hey you have an update same thing except we

[1:29:23] just push it out to the whole system automatically they slow down our meter

[1:29:27] yeah

[1:29:30] you start using them too much we're going to slow them down

[1:29:35] so this includes all the hardware software it's a turnkey project TurnKey

[1:29:39] project installation and everything you guys go out and install them

[1:29:45] thank you yes but we will have a crew come out they'll

[1:29:50] uh manage the project as well as I'll manage the project as well go out do the

[1:29:53] installation test the network um the smarter people will be on site

[1:29:57] quite frequently working with the billing software to make sure that

[1:30:00] integrates uh so yeah it's it's a very drawn out process so we've made sure we

[1:30:04] accomplish every step along the way one of the questions I had also is to make

[1:30:08] sure that you guys will be on hand and available not for just a short term for

[1:30:14] like a year excuse me but you guys would be available without any extra fees for

[1:30:20] customer service for any questions for billing issues you guys would be pretty

[1:30:25] handy and would you guys be direct or are we calling a 1-800 number

[1:30:29] um all of it yeah

[1:30:42] [Music]

[1:30:46] Dance Project every day

[1:30:50] and

[1:31:10] it's like this is built into the project

[1:31:14] yeah so there's multiple levels of support there's there's IUS support

[1:31:17] there's set support set will have a project manager that will be assigned to

[1:31:21] you guys and then again we have customer service people that are in California

[1:31:25] and they're available either via chat box or an 800 number so there's multiple

[1:31:29] levels of being able to get somebody to help you and there's no additional

[1:31:32] charge for that for the full 20 years so um that kind of leads into the third

[1:31:36] question was will we train your meter technicians on how to maintain the

[1:31:40] system and the answer is yes so not only will we train the meter technicians uh

[1:31:45] we'll train billing clerks how to do billing software and integrate

[1:31:48] everything we can do that on-site or via the web so if you get new meter

[1:31:54] technicians or a new billing Clerk and they need to be retrained we again can

[1:31:57] come out and do it again at charge we want the system to work for you guys for

[1:32:02] 20 years because it benefits us as well to have happy customers to help other

[1:32:06] cities how well the system is working so yes all of that is included in the

[1:32:09] 20-year class so I assume this has some sort of battery in the system correct

[1:32:13] and what's the estimated lifespan of that battery so what happens in the

[1:32:18] event the battery goes out before we get to it to change it okay so if the

[1:32:23] battery on the radio goes out these are the 10 and 10 or 15. they are the 10 and

[1:32:28] 10. so it is a 10-year full replacement warranty and then we warranty the

[1:32:31] remaining 10 years at a prorated rate so for example if they go bad at year 18

[1:32:36] there'll be a small cost just to replace the entire radio

[1:32:40] but the nice thing is within the software it tells you the battery life

[1:32:43] of every unit in the system so it's not like at year 17 they're all just going

[1:32:48] to go kaput and you're right but what's the projected life of just say a genetic

[1:32:52] a generic meter what do you expect how much life expectancy you one thing

[1:33:04] one other thing that the the meter and the endpoint are not running off a

[1:33:07] battery what the battery does is it has a capacitor that it trickle cell charges

[1:33:11] over 20 years so when our smartphones and things like that our electronic

[1:33:15] devices die it's from the constant on off and that hitting of the battery

[1:33:19] every time so the capacitor just trickles the battery trickle cell

[1:33:22] charges that capacitor so the capacitor is what takes a hit so that's how these

[1:33:26] batteries could last 20 years okay I understand so we expect 16 to 22 years

[1:33:31] depending on the how often we're cycling it and again

[1:33:35] and again pull these radios more than twice a day to cause the battery life to

[1:33:39] go down but standard is twice a day so so what happens when it does die does

[1:33:44] the water shut off is the customer out of water or it just stops reading nope

[1:33:49] so two separate units so the water meter will continue to flow of the water the

[1:33:53] radio just pulls that reading every hour and then twice a day you'll send that

[1:33:57] information back to the utility if the battery in the Radio dies the meter will

[1:34:00] still keep rating water so that that data will still be there it'll still be

[1:34:04] there so once you go out and hook up a new radio or restart the radio whatever

[1:34:09] so you're not going to lose any water Revenue okay

[1:34:15] you have a 10 and 10 warranty on this so the first 10 years completely no matter

[1:34:18] what happens it gets switched out the next 10 years is prorated what happens

[1:34:22] though if there's tampering well hold on the one thing that we won't warranty is

[1:34:25] a mower hits it that's not something yeah once you know that got it

[1:34:28] everybody says no

[1:34:32] so what happens if there's tampering what would happen then so if you're

[1:34:36] saying like if a homeowner tampers with it so if a homeowner goes out and

[1:34:39] disconnects it you'll get an alarm saying disconnect so you'll know

[1:34:42] immediately you guys can go out and fix it again there's nothing really the

[1:34:45] homeowner can do that can tamper with it that would cause the battery to decrease

[1:34:49] so yeah really lawn mowers destroying it they'll go out there and cut the wire

[1:34:53] thinking they're getting away with something but the nice thing is once you

[1:34:56] hook it up again it catches right back up to the meter so you haven't lost if

[1:34:59] someone decided to to get into one of the boxes and I'm assuming the the radio

[1:35:04] is attached to the lid to the meter yes okay and so if someone decides to remove

[1:35:08] that and they just keep pulling not realizing that maybe there's a wire is

[1:35:11] there a quick disconnect or is this something okay so it's something that'll

[1:35:14] break away it's not going to destroy anything someone can come back and plug

[1:35:18] it in easily so you're you're talking about an antenna you're not talking

[1:35:22] about anything that sticks up above the meter cover no it'll it'll be flush

[1:35:26] flush in the meter cover so yeah it just sticks perfectly flat the only ones that

[1:35:31] won't will be raised a little bit of course the metal Lids they'll be raised

[1:35:34] about a quarter of an inch so it'll still sit on the lid but it'll

[1:35:38] be up about a quarter of an inch if I'm not mistake it's probably what about

[1:35:41] four or five inches in diameter if you drive through Midwest City you'll see

[1:35:45] them sitting on top of theirs yeah it looks like a little mushroom and what we

[1:35:48] do is we drill a hole in your lid and then it sits flush so again they're Ada

[1:35:52] approved so wheelchairs can roll over on there okay yeah so it's not going to

[1:35:56] cause any issues but again sometimes somebody will hear the lawnmower or an

[1:35:59] aerator those are not aerator proof there's the cost of a battery

[1:36:11] what kind of cost is with that with that part again so it's prorated so what we

[1:36:15] do is we take the price of whatever you guys paid for it and let's say it goes

[1:36:19] out in year 11 you would pay 10 percent of that price to get a brand new unit

[1:36:22] and then if it's like year 18 it would be if I forget the exact breakdown but

[1:36:27] yeah 90 or so no yeah so so what is the unit cost uh right it's it's 10 of what

[1:36:35] a unit price that we've been what is a unit price

[1:36:39] it was in there so we're talking like the 5 8 the like the normal the normal

[1:36:45] the

[1:36:48] if you take the 8400 divided by the 3.99 it's 3 452 dollars and some change for a

[1:36:56] unit per year you can almost

[1:37:03] 52 instance 452

[1:37:08] 26. yeah and I believe in the bid okay did you guys ask for the breakdown yeah

[1:37:14] we have a breakdown yeah so it would be in there okay so so the 5 8 has a unit

[1:37:19] cost of 131 well that's the meat that's the meter you'd have to find a pinpoint

[1:37:23] or transmitter so then the end point is 253 so yeah so 253 so year 11 it would

[1:37:29] be 25.30 and uh

[1:37:33] okay so at year 21 so so 21 you know your obligations end

[1:37:41] and so the battery goes dead there we just have to replace the end point so so

[1:37:48] that part the meter should still be good until we

[1:37:53] decided how long do you think the actual meter part same thing so the meter has a

[1:37:57] battery as well that has a 15-year warranty then it has a field replaceable

[1:38:02] battery that is that is ten dollars so at year 16 17 18 whenever that battery

[1:38:05] goes dead you can get a unit replace the battery and you're up and running for

[1:38:09] another picture and so how about that battery

[1:38:12] change at your 15 or so what what's what happens for this

[1:38:16] contract so again if the battery starts dying

[1:38:20] what what it'll be a sense slope unit is warranty meters warranty for 15 years

[1:38:25] let's say it uh let's say it dies at year seven we replace the whole meter if

[1:38:30] it dies after year 15 then you guys either replace the battery which will

[1:38:34] get it up and running again or we can replace the hole

[1:38:38] the only thing in the in the only thing in the meter that can

[1:38:42] literally go bad because they're a non-moving part meter is the battery so

[1:38:46] at the year 15 now again if the warranty will be done but if you replace the

[1:38:50] battery you could probably get 15 more years out of it and keep running and the

[1:38:53] battery's 25 bucks so but again the only thing that can die in the meter is going

[1:38:58] to be the battery and that was one of our concerns whenever we first started

[1:39:02] looking at this like eight years ago or so was that

[1:39:05] uh having the whole city die at your 15 or 20. you know and then having a huge

[1:39:11] cost so the cost of replacing the batteries is should be minimal minimal

[1:39:17] but another good thing is as Dan said earlier you know the meters will tell

[1:39:21] you uh by looking at them if you get a bad battery

[1:39:25] um and then our endpoints will tell you through the software though so we're

[1:39:29] going to warn you before they die yeah so you can run a report every single

[1:39:33] year and say hey show me the battery life of every radio and then you can say

[1:39:36] okay show me the battery life everywhere it was below 90 below 50 below 30 so

[1:39:41] you'll have far in advance warning as to when these are going to start dying on

[1:39:46] you you have a recommendation as to when to replace the battery if we get down to

[1:39:50] should we start replacing them when they hit 10 is there a is there a quicker

[1:39:54] decline once you hit you know 10 they're not cool

[1:40:00] lithium ion batteries brain my brain went blank there for a minute so you

[1:40:04] can't really uh 100 judge lithium ion battery because they're either on or off

[1:40:08] so my suggestion is if they get below 40 replace it yep and yeah with the meters

[1:40:15] they'll give you a warning they'll suggest hey battery

[1:40:18] so through year 20 you're going to keep updating the software and that stuff so

[1:40:24] after year 20 what kind of costs should we be looking at

[1:40:28] to get the data maintain your system to maintain the system okay

[1:40:33] um the endpoints won't turn themselves off so they're guaranteed for 20. but

[1:40:38] they're also the life of the endpoint so if it makes it to 25 years then you get

[1:40:42] five years worth of quote-unquote free data so it's the life of the endpoint is

[1:40:47] how the data works so if it makes it to 22 then you've got two years worth of

[1:40:52] free data so what I would suggest is you know around year 18 you start looking at

[1:40:57] some kind of a change out Program start looking at the batteries and find out

[1:41:01] like Dan said which ones are below 30 or 40 percent start replacing those

[1:41:05] um so you can kind of do your your change out gradually versus you know

[1:41:10] trying to do it all at one time and we're going to have to at after year

[1:41:14] 20 we're going to have to change out the end point

[1:41:19] at so but that's a that's a used part that's going to have to right correct

[1:41:24] yeah or a consumable consumer and then and then a battery for the meter

[1:41:29] and hopefully the communicator would keep working or uh or the midpoint is

[1:41:34] the communicator the end point is to communicate great we don't have any

[1:41:36] infrastructure because we're operating on the infrastructure already put up by

[1:41:39] the cellular networks so the beautiful thing is you don't have to go out and

[1:41:43] maintain any of that okay so we've done that because that's a good point which

[1:41:46] for Miss Brown is and the rest of you guys is you know been to a city had a

[1:41:50] problem where they had to go put the whole infrastructure in and then it

[1:41:53] didn't quite reach everybody so I mean this is beautiful on this yeah

[1:42:03] these Ami systems and a metering system s most utilities replace them every 10

[1:42:08] to 15 years just full 3.7 million every 10 to 15 years but that's why I

[1:42:13] partnered with set and Center because they have the longest warranties and

[1:42:17] kind of the best technology so we can stretch those out to 15 to 25 years

[1:42:21] versus every 10 years you're spending three or four million dollars so let's

[1:42:26] talk about the billing procedures for some reason we have trouble keeping our

[1:42:30] billing cycle in sync with the meter reading

[1:42:33] [Music] um

[1:42:35] we tend to slip behind is this going to improve our billing procedures will we

[1:42:40] be able to get the billing caught back up and out on time Britney is shaking

[1:42:45] her head yes yes yes so what what happens is we're going to be playing

[1:42:49] ketchup you know

[1:42:54] okay so what happens is the radio is going to read the meter every hour twice

[1:42:59] a day it's going to send the information back so what billing will do is whenever

[1:43:03] it's time to Bill a certain route there's just a button they push that

[1:43:06] says export to billing and it takes it take current read that the system has

[1:43:10] and drops it in the building let me ask you a question right now we send the

[1:43:14] billing out to a third party is that correct

[1:43:17] so will this eliminate the need for the third party will this be able to do the

[1:43:21] billing

[1:43:30] purposes

[1:44:04] becomes instantaneous

[1:44:11] good so we'll be we'll get caught up all right okay so on the data so

[1:44:21] how does it so it's it is free to to get it from

[1:44:26] you know the seller data coming in and then actually putting it into that

[1:44:30] software so after year 20 you know to put it into

[1:44:34] the software is that just part of the in the end point

[1:44:39] is gets it into that gets it into the software or is there somebody who you

[1:44:43] know is there some company that you know is going to charge us you know a

[1:44:46] percentage so it'll stay it'll stay with us and Bruce correct me if yeah they

[1:44:50] answered that scene you could have two years of free debt if you went 22 years

[1:44:53] then you get the last two years three so what happens so the dealer goes to the

[1:44:57] cell unit and then ATT or us other Whoever has it sends it to Amazon web

[1:45:01] services Amazon web services sends it to set and then set says oh this this data

[1:45:07] belongs to Del City and it goes into the software even after the 20 years we're

[1:45:10] still going to do that process because we've paid for that until the end of the

[1:45:13] life of the radio so once the Radio dies then we say okay do you guys want to

[1:45:18] re-up and start over again with another 20 or do you want to do you know

[1:45:21] something like that but the whole process of reader reading the meter to

[1:45:25] the radio to Cellular to software to your software is all

[1:45:28] so that that leads to a so the data is connected to the each

[1:45:34] radio or each endpoint right so say at five years we have a radio go out

[1:45:40] do we now have we've we've used up five years of that data do we just have 15

[1:45:44] years of data or is that is the date you get you get what I'm

[1:45:48] saying so does it restart if it's connected to that radio sort of like I

[1:45:51] got my SIM card right and my it's connected to that device right

[1:45:56] so it would be the 15 years yeah so if it dies in year five let's say let's say

[1:46:00] it just goes out you've already paid for the 20 years of data so what we do is we

[1:46:04] give you a new radio that has 15 years gotcha okay so you're typically with

[1:46:08] that one you'd probably easily get to 25 yes okay now you have that accurate

[1:46:12] perfect and paying for that data like I said 25 or 28 years if you happen to

[1:46:17] make it there you'd still have it going yeah we don't come back and say well you

[1:46:20] hit your 20 and that's cool okay time for the yeah we're rolling along we just

[1:46:24] keep rolling along yep exactly very good

[1:46:31] shut off tomorrow right okay so the next question is is if you guys go you know

[1:46:37] if you guys go out of business or whatever else is this simple enough

[1:46:42] technology to where somebody else would hopefully buy buy you guys up and be

[1:46:45] able to take over yes yes very much so in fact a lot of the bigger Ami

[1:46:50] companies are now starting to jump into cellular uh set was one of the first

[1:46:54] companies to do it they're owned by a large private Equity Firm and a publicly

[1:46:58] traded company so if anything were to get towards bankruptcy there would be

[1:47:02] other multiple companies that would happen to just eat them up and

[1:47:06] in fact I've been with two companies that that has happened to over the past

[1:47:09] 20 years where Amco being one of them data magic being a second one where they

[1:47:13] just could not function they could not work and and bigger companies came in

[1:47:17] scooped them up and maintained their customers

[1:47:20] and like one other thing is you know we are a debt-free company so we're not

[1:47:24] looking at any of that you know backed by Cresco net who is about about three

[1:47:28] billion dollars a year in sales as earlier you guys had Oklahoma Natural

[1:47:33] Gas in here you know we do water right now in about two months we'll have gas

[1:47:37] out on the market so we'll do gas as well and then about a year from now

[1:47:41] we'll do electric as well so we're building and growing towards the future

[1:47:44] there's no I don't see any chance of us going anywhere I mean they just dropped

[1:47:49] two million dollars into gas r d and we're probably going to be

[1:47:55] double that into electric r d awesome so when you all do start the uh

[1:48:02] conversion or whatever we're going to call this whenever the project starts

[1:48:05] the biggest thing that I have for this is we need to make sure anyone that you

[1:48:09] have out there is easily visible and easily identifiable So shirts vests

[1:48:15] something that lets people know who they are we've had companies that come in the

[1:48:19] past that literally folks are in shorts and t-shirts out there working with no

[1:48:22] visible anything please make sure that's taken care of because we will stop we

[1:48:26] will ask questions yeah and we're going to have a kickoff meeting where we want

[1:48:30] to address all of that what do you require of our installers where we kick

[1:48:34] off you know Building Company everything where we go through step by step but yes

[1:48:37] our installers will have vests we'll have badges all of them will have

[1:48:41] business cards with phone numbers to contact anybody at the city they want or

[1:48:45] anybody you know contact me whoever so if a homeowner does have questions we

[1:48:49] want the installers to be prepared to answer any questions and give them the

[1:48:52] right people to reach out to you and this is sort of the perfect time to stop

[1:48:55] to talk about the communication plan where were you headed what kind of down

[1:48:59] time are you talking about like say you come to Pam's house and you start to

[1:49:04] change out her meter what's the down time she's going to be out of water for

[1:49:07] minutes 30 minutes three minutes three minutes you can change that out in three

[1:49:12] minutes two nuts you unscrew pull the meter out you assume that they're not

[1:49:16] frozen in rusted that is true I assume they're not frozen but these guys yeah

[1:49:22] they're average in you know a couple hundred meters a day in some of the

[1:49:25] smaller communities that we've already done so we're not worried about that but

[1:49:29] 30 minutes is probably top end okay but three to five is pretty normal pretty

[1:49:34] normal and what they do is when they open up the pit if that meter is running

[1:49:38] stop what they're doing and they go knock on the door very good we're here

[1:49:43] to change your meter out you might be out of water for a few minutes do you

[1:49:45] mind okay because the person might be in the shower yeah they don't just shut it

[1:49:48] off exactly so if it's running they'll stop they'll go do the neighbor

[1:49:55] Hood okay all right I actually have a test meter at my house already I had no

[1:49:59] idea I even had a test mirror at my house until Brittany called me and she

[1:50:05] said she said how in the world did you go

[1:50:09] through 27 000 gallons and I was like excuse me

[1:50:13] so

[1:50:16] I hope so yeah

[1:50:24] a really fast amount of time I have people all the time tell me that

[1:50:27] physically isn't possible and you're going to do search on AWA and show them

[1:50:31] how much water and it's unbelievable how much water can go through that or even

[1:50:35] just a leaky toilet that people don't hear shut off you know the beautiful

[1:50:38] thing about the system is now we're going to be able to show them that data

[1:50:41] at your fingers yeah at 10 pm you you started flowing such and such a rate yes

[1:50:47] sir that's very good and and in regards to communication so every homeowner gets

[1:50:52] their own consumer engagement login so the software that you see on every

[1:50:56] homeowner account they'll be able to log in and see that themselves okay so if

[1:51:00] they have 24 hours worth of usage they will get a leak alarm and then they can

[1:51:04] set that up to tax them or email them that they have a leak so the idea behind

[1:51:08] that is uh the homeowner will actually fix their own problem before they call

[1:51:13] you guys because they'll be able to see all that information and welcome to a

[1:51:17] third party website no it's ours it's our software is that an extra a

[1:51:21] beautiful thing it's not third party it's built into our software so the data

[1:51:25] is all live and and connected so when your customer service team logs in if it

[1:51:30] was third party the data would lag it might be a 24 hour lag so they won't see

[1:51:34] the same thing the customer service people we're gonna see the same exact

[1:51:37] data that the people at home are seeing awesome really are you asking for an

[1:51:40] extra fee from customers for that kind of communication will there be any extra

[1:51:46] fees for customers for any of those you're welcome to charge the homeowner

[1:51:51] fee but we don't charge you nope all right so let's let's transition into

[1:51:58] talking to Brittany here for a second about communication because that's Pro

[1:52:01] that's a good segue right there you shut them down right there we're not charging

[1:52:06] fees we're not charging anything extra on top of so there is a plan we we had

[1:52:11] talked about we've been talking about these meters for a couple of years now

[1:52:15] and it's on we're right on top of it you're going to be Community

[1:52:18] communicating with the public tell them yes so where we're there again we are

[1:52:26] and so but this is going to be great and I think if we you know I I still stand

[1:52:32] by it where where messed up

[1:52:38] no if right if people understand what's happening we can get them excited about

[1:52:43] it so Thursday morning at nine um we have a meeting scheduled with me

[1:52:50] and JD and Melissa Hatfield Craig Bruce are you coming okay so I'll have them

[1:52:55] too um Bruce has been phenomenal through

[1:52:59] this whole process he is getting me with their marketing person that they've used

[1:53:04] when they've rolled out into other cities so that we don't have to recreate

[1:53:08] the wheel we can kind of use communication and information that's

[1:53:12] already been used in other cities that they know works and then you know we'll

[1:53:17] tailor that to our people as well we're gonna hone in on timelines and you know

[1:53:24] what to expect not to be Doom and Gloom but this is not going to be pretty at

[1:53:29] first it's not because the sad reality is just like Craig said we have a lot of

[1:53:33] meters out there that are very old and what a lot of people don't understand is

[1:53:37] that the whole older the meter gets it slows down it doesn't speed up it will

[1:53:43] slow down and quit reading accurately so once we start dropping meters in that

[1:53:47] are reading a hundred percent a lot of people are going to go I have a leak

[1:53:51] there's no way I actually use this water well you've been using that water you

[1:53:56] just haven't been paying for it the whole time so

[1:54:00] of course I will be out there on the front line I will help all of our

[1:54:04] residents as much as I possibly can we are going to educate we're going to

[1:54:10] inform we are going to be out there this time we are not going to do it like we

[1:54:15] did it last time we're going to get it right this time what can the council do

[1:54:18] to help you with that and are there any Town Halls scheduled for those kind of

[1:54:26] discussions so that is something that we will talk about Thursday I I am not

[1:54:32] opposed there's no such thing as too much communication on something like

[1:54:35] this and they're going to start moving pretty quick it's my understanding like

[1:54:39] this isn't going to be we're going to sign a contract and maybe sometime next

[1:54:42] year this is going to start we're going to be working on a very limited window

[1:54:47] and so we're going to have to be very specific and very conscious about how we

[1:54:52] communicate to the community we're going to roll it out in Billing Cycles it's

[1:54:57] not going to be you know everything is going to be on purpose so once we get

[1:55:03] done with this meeting Thursday we're not going to leave the room until we

[1:55:07] have a good plan of attack that we are all comfortable with once we have that

[1:55:12] we will be communicating with all of you because this is going to be a group

[1:55:15] effort I can't do this by myself JD can't do it but it's it's going to take

[1:55:19] a village on this put us on your calendar I'm so excited put us on your

[1:55:24] calendar now for danwa or Delaware neighborhood watch assist meetings

[1:55:29] please come Ron make sure you get their info so we can go ahead and tell all of

[1:55:34] ward 3 about it so we're talking about roll out we're talking like after the

[1:55:38] parade we're talking probably what three months four months like how

[1:55:44] no let's not go that fast I'm just kidding give me a little bit of

[1:55:49] time what are we looking out for rolling this out what's the timeline on this

[1:55:55] yesterday

[1:56:02] yeah 90 days to start and then we have six months to complete right yeah so

[1:56:08] whatever Dell City goes faster or slow as you guys

[1:56:11] absolutely okay

[1:56:21] uh at meters that we're going to find all

[1:56:24] sorts of things I'll just bring to be honest doing this for 12 years

[1:56:26] I've probably sold 40 Ami jobs we're going to find meters that probably have

[1:56:30] never been built we're gonna absolutely all the only time

[1:56:33] that you touch every so everything that has not happened or

[1:56:38] has been a mistake in the past so again we're going to go as fast or as

[1:56:43] slow as you guys but the main thing is we want to get

[1:56:48] and we want to make sure that the billing

[1:56:51] good as it can be but again we're going to have hurdles because we're going to

[1:56:55] uncover things

[1:56:59] so so you just you know this is the one time that we're gonna touch all of our

[1:57:03] meters so uh Craig and Mike and everyone I

[1:57:09] we should ensure that the line going in to the meter and the line coming out of

[1:57:14] meter this is ideal for us to not just make a meter fit and make a meter work

[1:57:19] if there's a problem we see some extra wear something like that this is the

[1:57:23] time to to fix those things and will you guys communicate that with us there's

[1:57:28] you know

[1:57:32] you're allowed to take 20 pictures at every location that gets stored back

[1:57:36] into the software so that's where we'll sit with you guys to say hey what 20

[1:57:39] pictures or 10 or five you want our installers to take made it water line in

[1:57:43] water line out old meter new meter picture of the house I didn't step on

[1:57:47] Mrs Smith's rose garden and they're out and all of that comes back and it's

[1:57:51] stored in the system correct so you guys let us know because there's

[1:57:55] a lot of lead pipe

[1:57:59] pipeline so that's why we designed this system now do we have any lead pipes

[1:58:04] no thank you

[1:58:09] Thursday yep with Dale City's logo something that you can use as a mailer

[1:58:14] to start mailing your custom something you can put on your website I mean again

[1:58:17] like she said earlier there's no such

[1:58:24] thing yeah all right set has a list of frequently asked questions for the

[1:58:28] homeowners you know a lot of the questions are going to be with my bill

[1:58:31] go up we can cut some of the meat or we can do a town

[1:58:34] hall and explain to everybody here's how it happens the other one that's going to

[1:58:37] surprise you you're going to get a question will these give me cancer

[1:58:40] instructions we've done the studies we've done the research in

[1:58:44] yourself that will be a question

[1:58:47] so the one of the other questions is this is tied to Federal funding and so

[1:58:52] have you done other cities with this and completed have you done others and

[1:58:57] completed it so that way you dotted all the I's and T's and whatever else we

[1:59:00] might need to close out our project yeah so we

[1:59:06] we uh but with but again just federally funded to where to where

[1:59:12] we have something they don't always tell us that so I don't know

[1:59:16] I could answer that for you guys well they've already been vetted by my

[1:59:19] federal system before we even got to the awards section

[1:59:23] um yeah we've added you so you don't owe the IRS money that's the number one

[1:59:28] right right but the other part is they have to

[1:59:31] hire the right people and I'm sure if they have to sign that I mean are they

[1:59:35] going to sign anything else besides what the contract they submitted or do they

[1:59:39] have other requirements and just to make sure and and also a time period because

[1:59:43] we're running up to time periods and running out of time on some projects

[1:59:47] right this one is this one is a different system and no they meet all

[1:59:51] the criteria they've checked all the boxes and they'll be done within well

[1:59:55] within the time frame of this requirement

[1:59:57] all right do we have a plan to where we're going to start with the meters are

[2:00:01] we going to do one word at a time are we going to start north of the city or

[2:00:04] south

[2:00:08] well that's that's what we're talking about that way

[2:00:12] um you don't the last thing we want is for half of a

[2:00:16] cycle to be billed on the new meters and have to be built on the old meter so

[2:00:20] we'll take it a cycle at a time so they'll go in and read the meter and

[2:00:24] then your crew will come along and change it yeah and then the about it

[2:00:28] we'll also take a picture of picture with the readings

[2:00:34] these guys can go back in look at them

[2:00:39] yeah reports that we can run meter change out

[2:00:42] ports so we'll tell you what meters were changed out that week

[2:00:45] that week so you'll have all that data very good

[2:00:53] old meter reading report new meter reading so it does the old meter meter

[2:00:57] out new meter new meter it gives you that calculation so you can still yeah

[2:01:01] you can compensate yeah you compensate I get it right and councilman Yandy I just

[2:01:06] want to go back I don't want anyone to think that we are

[2:01:10] have tried to do this back door we have been talking about this project for a

[2:01:15] long time I just want to make it very clear that we have not rolled this out

[2:01:21] to the residents because we've not known anything and the

[2:01:26] last thing that I wanted was to cause mass chaos hey we're going to change

[2:01:30] your meter they're going to be smart they're going to read 100 your bill

[2:01:33] might go up but I don't know when I don't know who you know so I I just want

[2:01:39] to be clear that we have been talking about it but there is a reason that we

[2:01:43] did not I didn't want to scare everyone especially we're we're still licking

[2:01:48] wounds from billing calibration so the the bottom line here is all we're going

[2:01:53] to be charging is for the water that they use absolutely there's no added

[2:01:57] premium there's no added value there it's simply what they're using a lot of

[2:02:02] people have been skating by yep a more accurate bill

[2:02:08] so if people see their bills go up it's not because the city's building them

[2:02:11] anymore they're billing them more accurately right right okay very good

[2:02:17] thank you

[2:02:32] well what we've seen some cities do and this is up to you guys not that I want

[2:02:36] to add any work but you can pull several meters out from around town and then

[2:02:39] have them tested and if they test at 60 or 80 percent that you can kind of

[2:02:45] average and say hey our bills are going to go up 40 they're going to go up 20

[2:02:48] but there's no specific

[2:03:11] don't know until they pull the old meter yeah

[2:03:14] Ron we're gonna

[2:03:26] Ron we're going to put two meters at your house charge you twice

[2:03:31] one thing I would recommend is before you turn on customer portal to your

[2:03:35] citizens and I would give it six months so that data can build up in there and

[2:03:40] that it's something to see that also gives your customer service team time to

[2:03:43] get prepared for those questions okay because we don't want to flood them with

[2:03:46] questions if they're not ready for it sure

[2:03:48] all right wrap it up everybody good any other

[2:03:52] questions make a motion we close the discussion

[2:03:56] you have something wrong

[2:04:06] we just wanted to see you stand up

[2:04:11] Ron McCall 3403 South Wilbur Del City

[2:04:16] on the concept of billing is there any way that we could set a limit that okay

[2:04:22] your individual bill will not increase over 20 percent for the first six months

[2:04:28] so we want to know for that we'll have no way of knowing

[2:04:32] however and I'm going to step out on a limb here Ron just because it's you

[2:04:37] if someone makes a dramatic increase in their water bill we can work with them

[2:04:43] well that was my thought we yeah we can work with them to help them adapt and

[2:04:48] and they'll either have to learn to conserve their water consumption to get

[2:04:52] within a certain guideline right or figure out you know where all the water

[2:04:57] is going but we're not we're not going to go in there and start shutting

[2:05:01] everybody's water off just because they got a new meter

[2:05:07] thank you for granting you Britney whomever myself the authority to

[2:05:17] right we're going to look after that thank you for everybody but you

[2:05:29] so if every homeowner logs in and says hey let me know when I've used 75 of

[2:05:34] what I used last month it'll send you an alarm and we can also tie that to

[2:05:37] Dollars okay now once my bill gets to a certain oh that's excellent so again

[2:05:41] it's all very proactive for the homework that's excellent I like that

[2:05:45] okay very good

[2:05:49] uh Kyle you started a motion to close the public hearing portion

[2:05:54] I'm sorry what'd you say I second mayor thank you

[2:06:00] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[2:06:04] take the vote councilman Gandy I have councilman

[2:06:07] Brown aye

[2:06:10] trustee Finch I trustee Dean I chairman votes on the motion carries

[2:06:16] we'll move on to Item B Council action discussion consideration possible likes

[2:06:21] to award or dot deny ITB number zero two one seven Advanced metering

[2:06:27] infrastructure Ami water meters to the lowest responsible

[2:06:31] bitter Innovative utility Solutions LLC for an amount not to exceed three

[2:06:37] million seven hundred ninety nine thousand two hundred and eighty six

[2:06:40] dollars and forty cents authorized trust chair to endorse same and direct staff

[2:06:47] accordingly do I make a motion that we approve

[2:06:51] Sky interject given the factors with the um all the software in the 20-year I

[2:06:57] would like to modify the contract to Encompass a little bit more of that to

[2:07:02] make it more clear that's there we have the ITB attached I've already spoken

[2:07:06] with both the gentleman here that they're they're expecting that they had

[2:07:10] a couple excuse me um contracts in the proposal and I said

[2:07:15] we don't want to do those because they have California law and they were

[2:07:18] agreeable to go ahead and modify this but given the excellent 20-year warranty

[2:07:24] I think we want to add a little bit more in there and beef that up so it's clear

[2:07:28] if anybody that looks at that in the future so we want to Award with

[2:07:31] modification yes sir yes yes mayor I like it

[2:07:38] now thank you Beverly

[2:07:44] um

[2:07:46] I can make the motion if you'd like can you modify your motion yep okay so uh I

[2:07:52] would like to make a motion that we Award

[2:07:56] itb0217 with modifications um those modifications will be

[2:08:02] approved by Beverly or actually have already been stated by Beverly I guess

[2:08:07] the mayor yeah and mayor so okay so with modification to Advanced metering

[2:08:13] infrastructure Ami water meters to the lowest responsible responsible bidder

[2:08:18] Innovative utility Solutions LLC for an amount not to exceed three million seven

[2:08:22] hundred ninety nine thousand two hundred eighty six dollars and forty cents

[2:08:26] authorized trust chair to endorse same and direct staff accordingly

[2:08:32] second

[2:08:36] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[2:08:40] take the vote trustee Gandy aye trustee Dean aye trustee Finch

[2:08:45] trustee Brown aye chair votes I the motion carries any

[2:08:49] further trust input

[2:08:53] make a motion that we adjourn back to the Dell City council meeting

[2:09:00] second

[2:09:05] a bit of a motion in a second is there any discussion take the vote trustee

[2:09:09] Dean aye trustee Finch aye I trusty Gandy

[2:09:15] trustee Brown aye chair votes I we now adjourn back to

[2:09:19] the council meeting

[2:09:24] two minutes take a five minute break let's take a

[2:09:27] five minute break

[2:09:35] foreign okay everybody back we will now resume from the recess we're at item

[2:09:41] number 17 discussion only special projects for fiscal year

[2:09:45] 2023-24.

[2:09:52] discussion consideration possible action approved or deny conducting a discussion

[2:09:57] regarding special projects that could be requested by Council for fiscal year

[2:10:03] 2023-2024 do I hear a motion make a motion we open the discussion

[2:10:09] second

[2:10:12] we have a motion and a second is there any discussion

[2:10:15] take the vote councilman Gandy aye councilman Finch hi councilman Dean

[2:10:20] councilman Brown aye mayor votes eye the motion carries

[2:10:24] we are now open for discussion and before we start in I would like to jump

[2:10:29] out there with a project city manager that we discussed at the last meeting

[2:10:34] and we're talking about the entry to Del City the entry sign on Sooner Road

[2:10:39] at Reno and that is a project that is sorely

[2:10:44] lacking that is an eyesore coming into the city we had some great ideas brought

[2:10:49] To Us by the beautification committee the last council meeting and I would

[2:10:53] like to put that as the number one project get the entry to Del City up to

[2:10:59] standard I agree let me go into a quick detail on

[2:11:03] how this is going to work I want to make sure you all know this is part of the

[2:11:06] budgeting process for Melissa and myself a couple of department heads have stayed

[2:11:11] because they've got special projects they want us what a shock it's the chief

[2:11:15] no what I want you all to know is if we can get these on the radar now the goal

[2:11:21] of course is to find the money within the city if we have it already within

[2:11:24] our means to be able to perform these if not this is the opportunity to say we're

[2:11:28] going out for grant funding specialty funding one-time funding to do any of

[2:11:33] these things for example the entry to Del City beautification committee

[2:11:36] project could be completed with neighborhood enhancement according to

[2:11:39] the rules and requirements of the restricted fund but if we can get

[2:11:43] Oklahoma beautiful parks and tourism someone else to give us that funding

[2:11:48] even better so at this point even giving us ideas that we can have down I will

[2:11:53] try to build in what's in the budget and I make the I make the example you all

[2:11:57] have five million dollars in requests and we have fifty thousand dollars to

[2:12:00] spend but if we don't have those things out now then we can't do that when the

[2:12:05] Auditors come back and they ask us questions why did you all perform for

[2:12:09] example we did do the if we're going to do the

[2:12:12] bathroom project here in this next fiscal year why was it not budgeted why

[2:12:16] did it have to be moved money moved around for it why was it not prepped for

[2:12:20] this is an example of how we're prepping for it now so this is better budgeting

[2:12:24] process and it lets me know in this new role exactly what we're looking for I

[2:12:28] know I have many of your requests from my previous role but now instead of it

[2:12:32] being economic focused now it's all encompassing okay so let's take this in

[2:12:38] two parts we can talk about infrastructure

[2:12:43] and we can talk about beautification and and parks and kind of keep keep focused

[2:12:48] and then we'll find some place for PD and amongst all that stuff do we want to

[2:12:52] we're going to call you recreate oh beautification yeah you need you need

[2:12:56] some beautification at the police department should we take this by Ward

[2:12:59] potentially as well we could and that would not be a bad starting point we

[2:13:04] could start with Ward one and unless everybody talk about their favorite

[2:13:07] project for for Ward one what would you like to see

[2:13:12] you were talking earlier about the sidewalks on sunny lane in the

[2:13:15] guardrails and I think that's a worthy project but is there something in Ward

[2:13:18] one that you would specifically like to see

[2:13:23] right now I think it's more about the other words in those things

[2:13:28] um okay but so one of the things I just request for this whole part is we need

[2:13:33] to get out the things that he needs you know that we can try to get into the

[2:13:36] budget but I don't think that you know this

[2:13:39] should be thought of as the one time to get everything in so so so we got plenty

[2:13:44] so you know I think we should be really just thinking of the most important

[2:13:47] things to get done tonight and maybe we have another one next time so that's

[2:13:51] what I'm saying this is there's plenty of things like the entrances to uh to

[2:13:55] all of our streets have you know places where the water lines are cut out and we

[2:14:00] need to fix those speed bumps and this but I think that uh for right now as is

[2:14:05] that word one should be relatively okay or two

[2:14:12] please say sidewalks on sunny lane sidewalks on sunny lane that's all

[2:14:18] you're getting um

[2:14:20] all of my projects that I have down here are not World War II

[2:14:26] they're for things that we have been working on that have been in the mix

[2:14:29] since I have been on Council let's hear your top my top one is the restroom for

[2:14:35] City Hall it's been on here since day one that I got yes yes

[2:14:40] actually we have already voted on that in a previous council meeting we we

[2:14:44] voted to move forward with that we just are waiting on the bid process is that

[2:14:48] correct correct I think let's go ahead and put that let's put that down the

[2:14:52] restroom we we approve the restroom modification remodel on the ground floor

[2:14:59] floor at City Hall I think that was the one that we had Plus

[2:15:04] the restrooms at the community center the um the senior center and the food

[2:15:09] prep area and the tile floor for the senior center those were all on the

[2:15:14] agenda and were approved by the council previously I think we had approved

[2:15:18] looking at the drawings because we were updating we made some updates to the

[2:15:21] restrooms where we wanted a water a water closet is that what

[2:15:26] we're calling it two two new water closets I believe so yeah we we did

[2:15:30] discuss that so my concern is that the restrooms at City Hall we have voted on

[2:15:36] it before it's been four or five years ago but I just want I don't want it to

[2:15:40] get lost I want it completed we're just talking about budget items that's

[2:15:45] something that has already been approved but we want to make that a high priority

[2:15:49] in the budget that's where we're going with it and whenever you come in you see

[2:15:52] the budget coming up in the next few weeks you can ask myself and Melissa

[2:15:56] where is the money for blank and we say it is right here in section seven

[2:16:00] whatever you know she can read the budget he's if I can but you get it

[2:16:04] we're we're currently talking about things that are not infrastructure

[2:16:08] so yeah so um

[2:16:12] we've talked about the bathrooms in the senior center

[2:16:15] I'd like to talk about lighting at Eagle Lake I understand the trail is already

[2:16:22] in process is that correct we already have the funding

[2:16:26] are we moving forward with the trail at Eagle Lake so put on the budget lighting

[2:16:31] for the trail at Eagle Lake we need to have that well lit if we're going to

[2:16:35] expect citizens to walk out there and feel safe so lighting I think is a high

[2:16:39] project for the new trail that we're putting in

[2:16:43] at Eagle Lake because it bothers the fish

[2:16:48] shut up and however that is a question I think that

[2:16:52] you know that part of the bicycle trail you know the the South half going over

[2:16:56] to that spot should be well lit the question is is whether or not we should

[2:17:01] have light pollution for the other half you know it's so so

[2:17:06] the you know the you know the light blue you know is this it's would be one of

[2:17:11] the darker spots um you know what people want to be

[2:17:15] actually out there with it or not so that's just one

[2:17:18] consideration so when I've been to a lake and I went

[2:17:22] to the marina they've got lights everywhere I don't

[2:17:25] know is this such a thing as light pollution at a lake well definitely

[2:17:29] Drapers is very dark but that's not Draper but but again it's just the

[2:17:34] question is trying to figure out do we really want

[2:17:38] to have the whole Trail lit or do you want to have it we need the

[2:17:42] trail lit if we expect it to be used especially in the in the winter months

[2:17:46] when daylight goes away early I have to think safety for our citizens

[2:17:51] I think lighting is a high priority Pam did you you had others Pam correct we're

[2:17:56] still ward two yes I did um the sound at the community center I

[2:18:00] think that is a must yeah put that up there everything is going to be top of

[2:18:04] the list you know that right

[2:18:07] we need the sound center at a community center

[2:18:11] budget for that put a big star by that underline it sorry

[2:18:19] but you'll be able to speak about how much money you don't have clearly at the

[2:18:25] community center we've talked about the activity center

[2:18:28] that's on my list uh the Eagle Lake upgrade

[2:18:33] a rain Trent Park and I would like to have a clear view of what we're going to

[2:18:39] do there I just don't want to jump into something I want a good plan stealing my

[2:18:44] thunder here so so yeah both of us both Kyle and I

[2:18:49] are also agree which is which like I said I was talking about the village The

[2:18:53] Village hired a company to come out and design the park

[2:18:57] come up with the parts and in that way you have a clear vision of what you

[2:19:00] would like and and in that way once you have that

[2:19:04] part done is hopefully you can actually have that same company at least start

[2:19:09] coming up with bids or different things that you might need for the engineering

[2:19:12] drawings to submit some of that ACOG or yeah we're not getting some other

[2:19:16] options you know this fiscal year we're not going to complete Ray Trent Park so

[2:19:20] let's pay for the engineering that goes into the drawings and and the plan for

[2:19:25] raytrain Park which would be great to coincide with everything that we're

[2:19:28] going to be getting from half you know half is going to have a ton of stuff for

[2:19:32] us too so that's what I'd like to see for Ray Trent yeah

[2:19:37] okay the Rose Lane project at least a Clear Vision on that

[2:19:47] at Edwards Park I would like those old shrubs taken out

[2:19:51] and new trees put in that is very minimal Edwards

[2:19:59] new signs or at least had the old ones touched up just so that they look good I

[2:20:06] just the park signs right I just I'm a very visual person if I if you go into a

[2:20:12] town and everything looks speed up it means we didn't take the time to care

[2:20:17] um I think that

[2:20:20] the city hall the garden out here it needs to be planted a water source and

[2:20:25] mulched that's another thing it's a vision what

[2:20:29] people come in to pay their water bill we looked we need to look 100 percent

[2:20:36] and that's it

[2:20:39] what do you have Claudia when we when we talk about

[2:20:43] infrastructure we're talking about roads and drains and that sort of thing and

[2:20:47] I'd like to get Bryant Avenue North of 15th Street if you guys have driven that

[2:20:52] that is the worst piece of road that we own In the City by far and I have since

[2:20:59] day one on Council I have been fighting to get some Headway there we need to

[2:21:04] figure out that portion of of Bryant for sure and just so we're clear both uh

[2:21:09] Hatfield and Craig have been working on that according to our surveys

[2:21:13] that entire section 15th to Scott Street is not in Del City's limits that's why

[2:21:20] we haven't touched it really that is on each one of their lists but we can't

[2:21:24] touch the technically Oklahoma City's property now we are going to check that

[2:21:28] survey it and figure out if that is the truth but when you look on the county

[2:21:31] assessor's website and then previous surveys it actually shows as you move up

[2:21:36] Bryant it slowly veers off to the east until Brian is completely covered by

[2:21:41] Oklahoma City at which case if we know anybody that knows Oklahoma City Council

[2:21:45] people we could ask them to do it for free for

[2:21:49] us so

[2:21:53] um so while you're figuring that out I believe that Vicki um is actually a very

[2:21:58] important Street um they're between 15th and 29th um that

[2:22:03] whole area needs to be resurfaced I did send some pictures to JD today with some

[2:22:10] pretty large potholes that I think you know need to be fixed in the immediate

[2:22:14] time um but I would like to see all of Vicki

[2:22:18] between 15th and 29th be completely redone and also the um the school zone

[2:22:28] wavy line what is the professional name for that squiggly line the squiggly line

[2:22:33] thank you I believe all of that needs to be repainted and redone the crosswalks

[2:22:39] need to be done yeah that would go hand in hand with the resurfacing project

[2:22:42] yeah all of that um that that needs new face and staying in the old town area I

[2:22:49] would like to see a park or even a splash pad

[2:22:54] um I have looked into some possible grants

[2:22:58] um out there for splash pads specifically so I know that there's

[2:23:04] going to be some some good help out there but I think a splash pad would be

[2:23:07] great for Old Town two parks in the state of Oklahoma that

[2:23:11] have to have got to the top ten there's one up by Tulsa and actually the

[2:23:17] scissortail splash pad is within the top ten

[2:23:20] so we could be up there yeah it's definitely something that the kids would

[2:23:25] really have a lot of fun with and they can actually walk there in that old town

[2:23:29] area they definitely need more help and big picture here hopefully coinciding

[2:23:37] with police I do know that we've got a pretty high Juvenile Detention rate and

[2:23:46] I want to see what we can do to help our youth what is it that they that they

[2:23:52] need after school during school what can we build for them that will keep them

[2:23:58] keep them busy what can we do as a community there whether we grow the

[2:24:04] community center and really start getting some things in there for our

[2:24:08] youth but we definitely want to start seeing something for for for our youth

[2:24:14] something that they can do and that was pretty much it Vicky's the is one of my

[2:24:18] main things lighting I like what you said mayor we definitely could do with

[2:24:24] updating a lot of our lighting lighting down Vicki Lighting near our schools

[2:24:28] Lighting near our new Pathways we can definitely look into getting some kind

[2:24:35] of help for for new lighting projects thank you so Vicki was on my thought as

[2:24:39] well and so for us past Paving on it I think has only lasted about eight years

[2:24:45] or seven years and so one of the things that I was talking to a Paving Company

[2:24:49] about is it's just kind of how thick you're going to actually make it so

[2:24:54] they're kind of laughing at some of the cities where they just do like a you

[2:24:57] know a one inch or two inch and possibly you know changing that thickness to

[2:25:02] hopefully make our main thoroughfare Vicki last longer so it would be better

[2:25:06] to try to spend a little bit more money on that project and also looking into

[2:25:10] the actual drainage to make sure that all the streets are draining down Vicky

[2:25:14] because that's unfortunately where the water has to go that's the channel

[2:25:18] well so Ward four

[2:25:22] uh okay so I know High Soul it's it's kind of it's in need of some repair I

[2:25:29] know it's on a list somewhere it has certainly started to degrade much faster

[2:25:35] here in the last couple of years Howard another Street that's got some pretty

[2:25:40] there's just some rough sections it's not you know it's not horrible but I

[2:25:45] think it's I do spot repair yeah and it's and I think it's the

[2:25:50] base layer whatever's underneath has failed in a few places basically from

[2:25:55] Gina to just north of Judy is a really bad section there and it's from all the

[2:26:00] there's one spot where I think a trash truck you can just tell that's where it

[2:26:04] stops every time and it's just slowly worked that pavement there so

[2:26:10] um there's that I would like for us to really work to get Eagle Lake connected

[2:26:17] to Midwest City through that trail system there we're gonna be there's

[2:26:20] going to be that that spot where we need a lot of grant

[2:26:24] money for Trails yeah you know that it's going to stop right there sooner we're

[2:26:30] going to have nothing you know we will be the we we will be the section of

[2:26:34] Trail not there um here very shortly so I would like us

[2:26:38] to really fight hard to do that we've already talked about Ray Trent where I

[2:26:43] would just like us to spend some money on engineering you know I don't think we

[2:26:48] should really spend anything until we know what we're going to be doing 5 10

[2:26:51] 15 years down the road there that's part of what we're doing with the

[2:26:56] half company and so my other ones that I had since I passed online was uh over at

[2:27:04] 28th and Eberly at the fire station is this we're probably really need to look

[2:27:08] at replacing that intersection from 28th in aprily over to the post office

[2:27:15] because we always have all the heavy fire trucks in and out we have all the

[2:27:19] traffic in and out that uh you know if we can get that to at least the mailbox

[2:27:24] because the mailbox always has the part falling in but that would be a nice

[2:27:30] smaller area to do but also on the other side of you know 31st Street has a lot

[2:27:36] of failures but that's kind of more of again getting back to just road-based

[2:27:40] failures back to 28th and Napoli I think there's a lot of heavy florist truck

[2:27:44] going through there yeah yeah multiple ones okay as part of that

[2:27:51] should we consider putting an actual rather than asphalt but concrete that's

[2:27:55] concrete base right for not just the road but also in front of the mailboxes

[2:28:01] that's that constantly is failing soon let's go back to that intersection when

[2:28:05] we initially were designing the fire station there and there was an island

[2:28:09] that had a flagpole and you guys remember the flagpole and in that little

[2:28:13] island and we were supposed to put it was it a statue or a plaque to Bob Woods

[2:28:19] in the center that then when we rebuild it all we got was grass

[2:28:24] That was supposed to go back with a flagpole and a plaque honoring Bob woods

[2:28:29] and that's something that we might look into

[2:28:32] that would be some parts does the fire station not have a flagpole at all or

[2:28:38] did they put it in the wrong place wrong place

[2:28:41] yeah it's on the North side I wonder if we could get that moot

[2:28:45] so mayor what if we did instead of doing the plaque and a

[2:28:49] flagpole there what if we did a little just a little something

[2:28:52] on the Rose Lane project just so good we talked about that

[2:28:57] Rose Lane if you guys are familiar is the parking lot for what used to be

[2:29:02] Gregory's and and all those other shops there and that actually belongs to the

[2:29:06] city and what we had proposed in the past

[2:29:10] this has been before the council in the past the area between The High Line

[2:29:15] poles and the street right now it's concrete but it's kind of useless

[2:29:19] because you really can't get around in parking it it's hard to get through

[2:29:22] there so in the past we had proposed take out the concrete section from the

[2:29:28] Highline polls to 29th Street make a Green Space there with sort of the

[2:29:34] winding sidewalk going through there in fact we have drawings for that we had

[2:29:39] that engineered and uh

[2:29:42] perhaps we could put electrical outlets at strategic places so that when we have

[2:29:48] some sort of event in that area like the music festivals that we had the music

[2:29:53] programs vendors could set up you suggested the

[2:29:59] uh business Market could be held outside with tents and and that'd be a great

[2:30:04] event to put there if we make that green space in between The High Line poles and

[2:30:10] 29th Street yeah as a part of on a couple of different occasions half had

[2:30:16] some really very cool drawings where they had taken brick and they had taken

[2:30:22] grass and they had made it really a very usable some examples of some very usable

[2:30:26] spaces there that um I thought and they actually had I if

[2:30:30] I remember correct they actually had a rendering of what specifically what Rose

[2:30:35] Lane could look like for what looked like a

[2:30:39] minimal investment really we actually have engineered drawings of that area

[2:30:43] where we proposed it yeah so that could be a that could be an easy I think when

[2:30:48] we were working on that that's about when covet hit and everything came to a

[2:30:53] screeching home so that's something that could be Revisited we can pull out the

[2:30:57] old drawings we really don't have to re-engineer it

[2:31:00] one of the suggestions was to put all the high line polls underground however

[2:31:04] that's cost prohibitive not only to the city who would be doing the main lines

[2:31:09] but all the shops that are served off of the feeder systems from that from those

[2:31:14] Highline wires because they would have to convert from overhead service to

[2:31:18] underground service and that would put the burden on each individual shop

[2:31:22] so we kind of nixed that program and went to just realigning The High Line

[2:31:29] polls getting them in a straight line right now if you look at them they're

[2:31:32] kind of all over the place that there's no Rhyme or Reason to the system

[2:31:36] but we do have drawings for that and I think that's something we could bring

[2:31:39] out and revisit so I agree my other uh thought was this

[2:31:45] uh the sidewalk between about 25th is 24th and 22nd on sunny lane so what we

[2:31:54] currently you have a lot of people in Pam's neighborhood that try to walk up

[2:32:00] along Sunny Lane in between Sunny Lane and the creek that's open without a

[2:32:03] guardrail or any kind of railing so when we discussed this we came up to

[2:32:08] the thing is this we can't put a railing in

[2:32:18] between the railing and that it's Crush zone so they we got nixed on trying to

[2:32:23] make it safer that way but we we discussed this is that we

[2:32:27] think with a minimal amount of of work and looking at it that we could get

[2:32:32] enough room between the creek and the houses and use that's use the west side

[2:32:38] of the creek to go and make the uh yeah sidewalk on the west side of the canal

[2:32:42] right and then that way you know we at least

[2:32:45] solve that part so I mean it might take you know you know a small amount of

[2:32:50] purchases or different things and then just to get the sidewalk put in I think

[2:32:54] that'd possibly some things there it's overgrown right there are trees growing

[2:32:57] in it so you're looking at Public Works coming in and clearing some trees

[2:33:02] and that would be that and just the concrete I don't right yeah we stopped

[2:33:07] whenever we went out there yeah we looked and measured it yeah and it

[2:33:10] looked it looked it looked close and and if we don't then we unfortunately you

[2:33:15] know we just go and see about buying a little bit of time you land out yeah

[2:33:19] five five four feet change the fence out yeah and have it but that's another

[2:33:24] project I think we've got more projects that we're going to be able to do right

[2:33:28] now that's true but the big thing is I wanted to make sure you all had a chance

[2:33:31] to talk about this because

[2:33:35] and then as we go through the fiscal year a project comes up and then we have

[2:33:38] to find the money and that's usually the burden for Miss Melissa's can you find

[2:33:42] the money in the couch cushion for us to do this and it's better to have it

[2:33:45] prepared for up front or give us the opportunity with the grant writing team

[2:33:49] I'm putting together to go look for that money

[2:33:54] what we could do is perhaps you and I could sit down and sort of put together

[2:34:01] a prioritized list and then present it to the council at

[2:34:05] the next meeting is everybody good with that yes I I

[2:34:09] wanted to talk back to that 28th in Everly several portions that that has

[2:34:14] have has already been replaced so

[2:34:19] but there's another one starting that's right there in front of 28th and Everly

[2:34:23] another traffic from the floor shop it is actually

[2:34:27] but also let's think about doing the alleyway where the post office is

[2:34:33] because it is horrible and the city disown that that needs to be a complete

[2:34:38] new road base there that's what we need I mean I think that would go with

[2:34:42] concrete rather than well that initially started when we had a water line brick

[2:34:47] there and that saturated the road base what you got wrong and I think that

[2:34:52] you'd have to think about that whether or not we have any more water main

[2:34:56] problems we might want to change the water maybe before you start pouring

[2:34:58] concrete so the one one thought JD is if we could possibly look into

[2:35:06] kind of having a knowledge after doing the budget that

[2:35:09] drainage has this amount of money recurring each

[2:35:14] year not not necessarily just how much it is but recurring and then that way we

[2:35:17] could go and say you know as I have a drainage box or this stuff or different

[2:35:21] thoughts that we can look at seeing if we could you know that can that could

[2:35:25] stimulate some thoughts about how to spend some money without

[2:35:30] going into you know the money that that's kind of stored I actually think

[2:35:35] I'd be interested in hearing Chief Burger he probably has some ideas have

[2:35:39] you got some things that like a wish list is there something you'd like to

[2:35:42] add to this no we're going to open it come on up

[2:35:46] Chief and and tell us what you're thinking

[2:35:51] we're we're going to practice the answer for you right now no no no no

[2:35:56] okay we've practiced one of the things I'd like to consider and I've spent some

[2:36:01] time talking with JD on it is replacing our whole Cad and RMS which is our

[2:36:06] computer aided dispatching and Records management system currently we're

[2:36:11] offering off operating off of a cardinal system they're based out of Texas it's

[2:36:16] been in place there in the PD now I think it went in 98 we went live with it

[2:36:22] in 99. um

[2:36:25] I had a company come in there actually took over in running County right now

[2:36:30] and uh calibers was the name of the company and

[2:36:35] they're actually running it for Oklahoma County they came in and looked at my

[2:36:39] system and said okay this is what you have and basically said we're operating

[2:36:43] on late 90s technology so one of the things that it would

[2:36:48] benefit is for example when an officer does a report now he goes out and takes

[2:36:53] a report if we have to run a driver's license and ID for the report he's

[2:36:57] inputting that information in three or four or five different modules over and

[2:37:02] over again this new system allows drop drag and drop once that's information is

[2:37:08] ran by a dispatcher it automatically drops it automatically populates

[2:37:13] and eventually building onto that system with laptops in the cars my goal with

[2:37:18] that would be to keep the officers in the cars on the street yeah

[2:37:23] currently if an officer goes out and he takes a simple vandalism report a petty

[2:37:28] Larson airport a simple report he has to return to the station and come in and

[2:37:33] he's going for that one report he's going to spend a minimum of 20 to 30

[2:37:38] minutes just on a simple report right there in the station doing that if he

[2:37:42] gets into a large report a DUI accident or anything like that a domestic

[2:37:47] violence he could spend several hours there in the station doing a report and

[2:37:51] it takes him off the street right whereas some of these new reporting

[2:37:54] systems automatically populate fill in charges on different sections and would

[2:38:00] keep them in the car a lot longer out on the street he could the officer could do

[2:38:05] a simple report right there on scene and have it submitted and gone so I think

[2:38:10] there's some updating we've looked at different options we've been looking at

[2:38:14] some grant funding on that also but just so you know where I'm kind of headed

[2:38:19] next with some of my major projects is is that do you have any idea what the

[2:38:24] dollar figure is on something like that a budgetary number caliber when they

[2:38:28] came in here a few weeks ago and gave us an estimate I just got their budget

[2:38:31] they're looking at about 283 thousand dollars an initial setup and then

[2:38:36] they're looking at about reoccurring cost every year about seventy seven

[2:38:40] thousand dollars so it's quite an expense currently we pay just under

[2:38:45] fifteen thousand dollars a year for Cardinal so it's quite as quite a step

[2:38:51] there but I think with technology come along

[2:38:55] this is the way we need to go so does this include the laptops in the in the

[2:38:59] officer's car or no that's another that's another major expense

[2:39:06] right so what's nice about this though is we

[2:39:10] all would like to have more police out on the street and more visibility yes so

[2:39:15] without having to hire two or three more officers per shift we

[2:39:19] can get that through just having the reports being able to be done out of the

[2:39:23] field and

[2:39:26] and the system I'm looking at there's more out there I'm looking at another

[2:39:29] one also um half a million yeah there's there's a

[2:39:33] bunch of them out there but you're also talking record sharing

[2:39:36] when we get into this we will have access and sharing records not only

[2:39:40] Statewide Nationwide to be able to share currently

[2:39:45] on our Cardinal system it's our system nobody can access it and we only have

[2:39:50] our data and nobody else's data so we're kind of on our own little island again

[2:39:55] right here without sharing any data so this opens that door allows us to be

[2:39:59] able to see criminal history all of that right there

[2:40:03] in the car and be able to share data know what somebody's done with this

[2:40:07] person in Tulsa or Wichita or wherever so what we're dealing with we're going

[2:40:12] to need to look for some grant money so just so you know we've already had that

[2:40:16] conversation this morning we'll have a grant submitted most likely by Friday or

[2:40:20] Monday of next week for the initial cost of this if we can squeeze the laptops

[2:40:25] out of them too even better the problem we're having is if we can get these

[2:40:30] one-time costs funded and that's not just for his project I pick on him but

[2:40:34] all of his projects are phenomenal but any of these things that we do it's the

[2:40:37] recurring that's going to get us hence why we did these water meters there is

[2:40:41] no recurring cost it was a giant up front luckily arpa came in and took care

[2:40:45] of this that covers that cost but the 77 000 recurring he's already got fifteen

[2:40:51] thousand dollar budgeted but he still needs 60

[2:40:54] 5 000 or more to do that and Melissa do we have an extra 65 a year lying around

[2:40:59] not so much we'd have to move it around modify it change it up

[2:41:03] but you can look at it steal it from Hatfield in the officer what is an

[2:41:07] officer just a generic officer cost a year 100

[2:41:14] and we're looking at over the course of a year keeping the officers out in the

[2:41:19] field out on the street much more than just one officer

[2:41:24] so I mean the payback on this is going to be ongoing even though it's

[2:41:29] 77 000 a year what percentage of an officer shift do they spend writing

[2:41:33] reports do you think on average 25 50 percent

[2:41:40] it varies but I would say a good estimate is probably 40 to 50 percent

[2:41:44] okay so take one officer and you have paid for that the cost of the cost of

[2:41:50] the annual Stone by having them on the street at that point yeah but you're not

[2:41:53] telling me to get rid of an officer right telling you to get rid of an

[2:41:56] officer I'm saying that it is paid for and we are basically doubling our police

[2:42:01] presence by just spending sixty five thousand dollars I like it I like it I

[2:42:06] may be adding more

[2:42:09] more of your facility I did also notice that your dispatch system was fairly old

[2:42:16] as well would that tie in together that is all together the cad is the

[2:42:22] computer-aided dispatching in the and the RMS is the records management

[2:42:26] and you have to have both those in conjunction with each other so caliber

[2:42:30] does both those and that's tying them both together so you can run so the

[2:42:35] officer goes out there and runs a driver's license and dispatch is running

[2:42:38] that if that officer doesn't run it in the car and he drops it in there and the

[2:42:42] officer has all the information to include photograph on the driver's

[2:42:45] license everything right there and then can turn and then drop that into a

[2:42:50] report which saves the entry time over time currently we went to the

[2:42:55] electronic ticket Riders here about a year ago

[2:42:59] and over time this system also would allow us to integrate their electronic

[2:43:04] ticket Riders into this and to be able to take away from what we're currently

[2:43:08] paying to Tyler so I could absorb some of those costs in that over time but

[2:43:12] we're in a contract with them for a period of time but over time I would

[2:43:17] look at reabsorbing them across back in there and seeing what we could do to

[2:43:22] help with that cost but it's going to be a major cost to try to get into it right

[2:43:26] away get into what we need but again that's why I want to put it out there

[2:43:30] that we have a goal one of the things that this is sort of

[2:43:35] out in left field for something that I would think would be advantageous would

[2:43:39] be like a dictation uh piece to the software where officers can

[2:43:44] actually I don't not everyone types all that fast

[2:43:47] so just another time saving thing it's just something in the medical field

[2:43:50] that's pretty prevalent that saves a lot of time no they make those for law

[2:43:54] enforcement too and I've had to use those in the past on the smaller

[2:43:59] instances but yeah so Chief just so I have it down for our special project

[2:44:02] discussion the cad RMS system goes hand in hand they're not separate systems

[2:44:07] it's one system as a whole you need them to be one system as well yes they are

[2:44:11] two different areas but they need to be in one system okay laptops in the

[2:44:15] vehicles yes and then you're going to need either cellular phone or tablet

[2:44:20] service within those laptops to get the information back and forth yes so

[2:44:23] that'll be a recurring cost is there anything else specific to this project

[2:44:27] or another project we need to put into this to make it all

[2:44:31] no because we currently have iPads in the car which have Wi-Fi service So

[2:44:36] eventually what we would be doing is we're taking that what we're paying

[2:44:39] currently for iPad service to like forty dollars in the penny per

[2:44:44] eye flat per iPad out there in a car right now that would go away and

[2:44:48] replacing it with the Wi-Fi service in the in the eye in the laptop and so

[2:44:52] there's some things that can be rolled into that offset as we as we take the

[2:44:55] iPads out and put a laptop in so be offsetting value yes Chieftain we

[2:45:02] discussed that you have a problem with your emergency generator and what's

[2:45:05] supplied there so I'm thinking that maybe we should budget five or ten

[2:45:09] thousand to fix services that that it's not the generator it's just where where

[2:45:15] the circuit breaker panel is sending the electricity to and we have found that

[2:45:20] out over the last couple storms is when they wired The Dispatch Center only

[2:45:26] certain amount of plugs in that Dispatch Center are powered up by the emergency

[2:45:30] generator yeah hold them if the power goes out the building basically shuts

[2:45:35] down except for certain outlets in the Dispatch Center

[2:45:40] and that generator is big enough to run the whole department and why it wasn't

[2:45:43] that way it's I don't know so but we've gotten more

[2:45:48] maintenance is coming out on a regular basis and making sure it's updated and

[2:45:52] we'll start and run for us a last power outage where everything was just fine

[2:45:57] but yes eventually looking at being able to power the whole building

[2:46:01] yeah so it seems like we should budget 7 500 or so mayor might have a better idea

[2:46:08] of what it would cost but to go and figure out how to get the uh circuits on

[2:46:12] the right circuit okay all right very good thank you thank you

[2:46:17] Ron what do you got

[2:46:27] it

[2:46:32] excuse me Roma Cole 3403 South Wilford again still

[2:46:39] I don't know how many of you are aware of the situation with the

[2:46:42] zebra one the dog catcher currently Oklahoma City's animal shelter

[2:46:50] over here shut down due to

[2:46:53] animal influenza consequently they're not taking any new

[2:46:58] animals unless they're vicious which leaves our Animal control officer

[2:47:03] in kind of a dilemma she's having to store

[2:47:08] non-vicious animals at a little facility at off of poor Street

[2:47:14] I don't know how many of you been up there I've taken the off I had the

[2:47:17] opportunity to run up there here a while back when I delivered some dog food for

[2:47:20] her they have a little approximately 10 by

[2:47:23] 10 chain link cage dirt floor

[2:47:29] does have a roof over it but they're utilizing Igloo type

[2:47:33] doghouses in there

[2:47:37] as I say it's a dirt floor you guys been talking about hundreds of

[2:47:43] thousands millions of dollars I'm talking

[2:47:48] a thousand ten thousand Maybe to run a concrete floor set that pin off

[2:47:53] over on it she's using an Old Wagon covered wagon

[2:47:59] I'm going to call it as a trailer a storage for you know food and other

[2:48:04] supplies looks like we could do something up

[2:48:09] there to make it a little bit more inhabitable for those animals

[2:48:14] a little more humane yeah

[2:48:18] inconvenient you know a step clear back around behind

[2:48:22] all the maintenance equipment and buildings

[2:48:25] not exactly easy to get to and even access to that PIN

[2:48:31] you're walking through water or mud

[2:48:36] okay we weren't aware of that so I just want to bring it to your attention maybe

[2:48:41] you could find an extra an extra load of concrete somewhere

[2:48:45] to lay a concrete pad four inches thick put it open the cage

[2:48:50] over it some type of a little storage building

[2:48:53] that she can at least have a decent place to store the food or

[2:48:57] whatever necessity she needs I don't even think she has running water at that

[2:49:01] area yeah we can get a water line that's

[2:49:05] doable right if you're gonna have a concrete floor

[2:49:07] why not have a water line that's moist with concrete off with

[2:49:11] you're going to have to open right water line

[2:49:20] that's like to make trenchers for

[2:49:26] okay all right thank you anyway Victoria I'm sure Victoria would appreciate it

[2:49:30] yeah thanks for bringing it so the other question is is you know we built you

[2:49:34] guys a new Public Works building you have a lot of these

[2:49:37] right and that's that's my question right

[2:49:42] is where it is is there any spot you know any spot

[2:49:48] inside the old warehouses down there

[2:49:52] you know the different spots that you got that she could possibly use

[2:49:56] let's yeah so so anyway if you guys could if you guys could look into let's

[2:50:01] look into that the nice thing about a word that pin is there is a nice big

[2:50:05] tree yeah maybe maybe we can have you guys look

[2:50:10] into that and come up with some suggestions the next council meeting

[2:50:14] um sorry guys

[2:50:17] thanks Ron we're on it thank you

[2:50:26] okay it's and I think there we probably should ask

[2:50:30] those guys I mean are we what kind of are we gonna buy anything from

[2:50:36] Public Works let's let them look at it and come back with suggestions in two

[2:50:40] weeks the hour is getting late and we have

[2:50:44] plenty to do still so the question says Public Works have any one or two

[2:50:49] projects they want to bring up Public Works do you have anything you want to

[2:50:54] talk about like one or two projects or anything else

[2:50:57] don't say a dog kennel

[2:51:01] that's already out there going once do not say a knuckle boom

[2:51:06] truck

[2:51:12] where are the knuckle boom trucks how far out are we on this

[2:51:16] awesome

[2:51:22] at the parade we're going to use them to block off the

[2:51:26] streets any projects that I would like to see

[2:51:29] down our Public Works would like to see done

[2:51:32] is just keep updating our outdated technology in our buildings

[2:51:40] so I won't get specific but there's things that are very very old

[2:51:45] that need to be once you bring us back some suggestions okay bring us back

[2:51:50] something and let's go back to the knuckle boom truck for just a minute yes

[2:51:53] sir so are we approaching the time when we can take over the large trash project

[2:51:58] ourselves is that something that is coming soon

[2:52:03] most likely next year because we've still got to get two new sanitation

[2:52:07] drivers to be able to handle that right we have a couple proposals to pitch

[2:52:15] um we're making some changes in the

[2:52:17] sanitation department we're going to request to open two more jobs

[2:52:23] in that division we're hoping for and I'm very optimistic

[2:52:28] that it'll be this next fiscal year okay so all right well I'm I'm really

[2:52:32] interested in in taking control of the large trash days and I really like the

[2:52:37] idea of doing it perhaps by Wards rather than having the entire city with trash

[2:52:43] on the curb for however long one of the proposals just do award at a time and

[2:52:49] work through it one of the ideas that you mentioned we've actually we're

[2:52:52] trying to incorporate both ideas into one and

[2:52:55] okay let's see if that'll work we're looking forward to hearing your proposal

[2:52:59] all right thank you yes sir all right let's um let's close this public

[2:53:06] discussion now I would entertain a motion to close the discussion make a

[2:53:09] motion we close the discussion second

[2:53:15] we have a motion in a second is there any discussion

[2:53:18] take the vote councilman Gandy aye councilman Brown councilman Finch

[2:53:22] councilman Dean mayor votes I we motion is approved any

[2:53:28] further Council input yes sir so um Mr manager if you could look into

[2:53:34] seeing about if our code folks or whoever's the appropriate one we're not

[2:53:39] supposed to have yard signs or all the different sales in fact I've been like

[2:53:43] on you which which auction is going on and there's that instrument auction and

[2:53:48] so finally I looked at it's April 16th and then of course we have election uh

[2:53:53] um ones up and then of course people selling this and that so if there's if

[2:53:57] we could see about trying to get rid of those things and then and then anybody

[2:54:01] who's putting up things like you know that shouldn't be put up have the code

[2:54:05] people call them and say the next time we're going to see about you know if we

[2:54:08] can figure out how to find them um because again those things aren't

[2:54:12] supposed to be up I make a motion that we adjourn to the Del City Economic

[2:54:16] Development Authority second

[2:54:21] we we have we have a motion and a second is there

[2:54:25] any discussion take the vote councilman Dean councilman Gandy aye councilman

[2:54:31] Brown aye councilman Finch aye mayor votesign

[2:54:34] we're now adjourned to the Del City Economic Development Authority Madam

[2:54:39] chairman it's just the Del City Economic

[2:54:43] Development Authority Melissa would you call role please

[2:54:48] here trustee Brown here

[2:54:53] here trustee Dean trustee Eason here in chairwoman Finch

[2:54:57] here is there any public input at this time

[2:55:03] nothing wrong

[2:55:08] any trust input nope okay number four minutes discussion

[2:55:13] consideration possible action to approve minutes of the regular meeting of the DC

[2:55:18] Eda of April 17 2023. make a motion we approve the minutes

[2:55:25] second

[2:55:28] any discussion take a vote

[2:55:32] trustee Gandy aye trustee Dean

[2:55:35] trustee Brown aye trustee Eason aye chair of otay

[2:55:40] item five executive session discussion consideration possible action if any to

[2:55:46] approve recessing to Executive session pursue it to the Oklahoma meeting

[2:55:51] act 25 Oklahoma State 301

[2:55:56] with the purpose of the following discussion concerning confidential

[2:56:00] matters pertaining to Economic Development including the transfer of

[2:56:04] property financing or the creation of a proposal to entice a business to locate

[2:56:09] within the city of Del City including but not limited to properties

[2:56:14] located at Main Street and South Sooner Road Southeast 15th Street and South

[2:56:19] Sooner Road and Southeast 15th Street and South City Lane Road as provided in

[2:56:25] 25 OS 307c 11. as a public disclosure of the matters discussed would interfere

[2:56:33] with the development of products or services and public disclosure would

[2:56:37] violate the confidentiality of the businesses

[2:56:43] Madam attorney do we have enough just calls

[2:56:47] yes in my opinion this is appropriate for executive session

[2:56:51] make a motion we adjourn to Executive session

[2:56:54] second

[2:56:59] take a vote trustee Eason aye trustee Gandy aye trustee Brown

[2:57:04] aye trustee Dean aye chair bedside we're now adjourned

COUNCIL MEETING 5/1/23

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