[0:02] you're recording also on how you

[0:05] and zoom uh yeah yes i can hit record i

[0:08] can just record

[0:11] and we're also live on youtube mr chair

[0:13] i'm gonna call this uh meeting to order

[0:15] at six o'clock on june 16th

[0:17] our next barter selections meeting is

[0:18] june 23rd at 6 00 pm it's going to be

[0:21] next door

[0:22] not here this is audio and video

[0:24] recorded

[0:25] uh it'll be put on channel 9 at some

[0:28] point

[0:28] in the very near future it's also live

[0:31] on youtube

[0:32] and it's going to be a zoom meeting also

[0:34] so could everybody stand

[0:36] for the pledge of the allegiance states of america and

[0:45] to the republic

[0:46] for which it stands one nation under god

[0:50] indivisible with liberty and justice for

[0:53] all

[0:54] thank you

[0:59] the first agenda item is on the new

[1:01] business is

[1:02] review discuss and act on a host

[1:04] community agreement bureau oasis llc did

[1:07] everybody have an opportunity to

[1:09] take a look at that agreement yes and

[1:12] does anybody have any

[1:13] uh questions about that this is uh very

[1:17] similar to the one that we

[1:18] signed the last time but the difference

[1:20] is that this is just

[1:21] cultivation it's not manufacturing not

[1:24] making edibles or anything like that

[1:28] uh i'm not sure it's a question but more

[1:32] of

[1:32] a comment i just wanted to give a kudos

[1:36] on the 25 000 upfront

[1:40] payment i know it's deducted from the

[1:42] three percent

[1:43] um impact fee that's imposed um if we

[1:46] sign this

[1:47] on uh pure oasis but i really

[1:49] appreciated that

[1:50] it's in accordance with the other ones

[1:52] that we did so i just wanted to

[1:54] thank you thank you dr

[1:58] if yes simply slip and hold i was just

[2:02] looking for an update in regards to

[2:05] whether or not this has gone before the

[2:07] planning board of the zba

[2:08] as of yet no it it hasn't okay so

[2:11] normally uh

[2:12] because they're in the process of doing

[2:14] this this is the host agreement

[2:15] obviously if they don't purchase the

[2:16] building they don't start the cultivation that kind of stuff this

[2:19] won't apply

[2:21] but they still got several hurdles um

[2:24] and you know zba is one of them as well

[2:27] as the uh the planning board

[2:29] uh i don't know if there's any other

[2:30] committees but uh thank you

[2:33] it's gonna be sooner rather than later

[2:35] in the public obviously we'll be

[2:36] notified

[2:37] to be posted as well as the abutters

[2:40] to 1620 spring street so for the public

[2:43] this is for 1620 spring street this is

[2:45] uh the old raytheon it's been called and

[2:48] there's a plan uh six twenty six twenty right six six twenty spring

[2:54] street what did i say

[2:55] sixteen oh actually that's someone's

[2:57] house played that tape back

[2:59] that's why i said six twenty but anyway

[3:00] 620 uh spring street

[3:02] and there's a group of people that want

[3:04] to cultivate marijuana there not to

[3:06] manufacture not to

[3:07] make any products out of it but they're

[3:09] going to cultivate and they will sell it

[3:11] to different businesses

[3:12] uh around here and further away and not

[3:15] to sell it either

[3:16] yeah they're gonna sell it to uh

[3:19] as a wholesale item to other uh other

[3:23] uh dispensaries and they they also have

[3:26] a dispensary in dorchester so they'll be

[3:28] making the

[3:29] growing the product here and

[3:30] manufacturing here then

[3:32] i'll bring it to their dispensary i

[3:34] believe it's in dorchester

[3:38] i'll entertain a motion there there's no

[3:39] further questions before i make a motion

[3:41] i do have one last question

[3:43] um the annual payment of the community

[3:45] impact fee is doable

[3:47] due and payable no later than 90 days

[3:49] from the close of the calendar year

[3:52] um i assume that's once they're up and

[3:55] running right

[3:56] yes yes uh yeah like the agreement is

[4:00] basically

[4:01] would commence when i'm out i'm actually

[4:04] when the company obtains

[4:06] um a license um and they're approved

[4:10] to begin operations by the cannabis

[4:15] i uh yeah by the cannabis i control

[4:17] commission okay

[4:18] so yeah like it would start then at that

[4:20] point but they need to have this in

[4:22] place in order to go

[4:24] so in order to go forward through the

[4:26] state and the state agencies as well

[4:29] uh he has to begin the planning oh you

[4:32] know

[4:33] i like actually like a process where the

[4:34] planning brought through the special

[4:35] appointment process as well

[4:37] thank you yep it's like now this

[4:41] 25 000 payment does not

[4:44] or does include all permitting fees

[4:47] that's nothing to do with the uh

[4:48] permitting fees no so this uh

[4:51] they they have to pay unless they're

[4:52] waived all fees they still expect

[4:55] along with paying real estate taxes uh

[4:57] personal uh personal taxes they have to

[4:59] pay

[5:00] uh that twenty five thousand separate

[5:01] that's a part of that three percent

[5:03] so if it comes out that they at the end

[5:05] of a calendar year they always

[5:07] a hundred thousand dollars they've

[5:09] already given us the 25 so we're getting

[5:10] that

[5:11] up front of this advantage for the uh

[5:13] for the time thank you

[5:17] so i'll still entertain a motion mr

[5:19] chairman i motion that we

[5:22] approve the host community agreement

[5:24] between the town of dayton and pure

[5:26] oasis llc

[5:28] uh as presented and amended this evening

[5:32] just so the public knows they had a

[5:33] virtual meeting uh last thursday

[5:36] that the public was invited to and

[5:38] people a lot of people from

[5:40] the public ask questions about it so the

[5:43] neighbors and

[5:44] so people know what's going on is there

[5:46] any further discussion on the motion

[5:48] if not i'll ask for a vote all those in

[5:51] favor say

[5:52] i i i oppose

[5:56] abstentions the eyes haven't the next

[5:59] item

[6:00] uh is review discuss and act on

[6:02] disclosure

[6:03] by non-elected municipal employee

[6:05] building commissioner jim aguiar

[6:07] we were giving a uh the disclosure by

[6:10] uh jamaica he's the building

[6:12] commissioner

[6:14] and he uh has had some involvement with

[6:16] the

[6:17] uh and we'll discuss that as the next

[6:19] item uh with the libraries the different

[6:21] possibilities

[6:23] um that we will be doing with the

[6:25] library

[6:26] leasing building whatever and

[6:29] because he uh owns property in dayton

[6:33] that may become

[6:36] a property that we may lease

[6:39] he's bringing this to our attention that

[6:42] so we have three options we can either

[6:45] allow vote to allow him to proceed we

[6:48] can vote to proceed

[6:49] up until the point that we uh have a rfp

[6:52] is put out or we can ask that he recused

[6:56] himself for the whole process

[6:58] so um any questions from

[7:02] um my only question is would the vote be

[7:07] exclude him from the municipal building

[7:10] study committee or would this be

[7:11] strictly

[7:12] uh regarding the library i believe it's

[7:15] begun in the library

[7:16] because there's no other uh conflict or

[7:18] whatever you want to call a conflict

[7:20] uh with anything else that that group is

[7:22] uh discussing

[7:25] i have no further questions we have any

[7:29] questions

[7:32] no idea so i'll express

[7:36] uh my personal feelings we ought to

[7:39] allow him to proceed with this process

[7:42] up until

[7:42] uh any point the rfp is put out

[7:46] so we have three options we can just uh

[7:48] let him proceed

[7:49] and fully participate in whatever

[7:52] process we're gonna do

[7:52] with the library we can tell him that he

[7:55] got to recuse himself and he has nothing

[7:56] to do with it or we can

[7:57] let him proceed until we get to the

[7:59] point where we got rfp out there and

[8:01] if his business he has a partner if his

[8:04] business

[8:05] wishes to be one of those facilities

[8:07] that we may want to consider

[8:09] uh he would recuse himself at that point

[8:11] from any uh further discussion with us

[8:13] the board on

[8:14] that issue uh can i give my personal

[8:17] opinion sure

[8:18] i think though the last choice is

[8:20] probably the best

[8:22] just my personal opinion yep

[8:25] does the chairman i support your

[8:27] recommendation

[8:29] my recommendation yes so i will uh

[8:32] entertain a motion that we proceed

[8:35] up until the point that the rfp is uh

[8:37] put out our second that motion

[8:40] i'm gonna let you make the motion and

[8:42] i'm going to uh step down

[8:44] and second that motion thank you any

[8:46] discussion

[8:47] i'm happy to second it you don't need to

[8:48] step down any uh discussion

[8:51] no no discussion mr chairman yes

[8:54] i make a motion that mr aggia

[8:58] continue in his current capacity serving

[9:01] on that task force until the

[9:05] rfp process has reached

[9:09] uh been sent out for the library

[9:14] any discussion on that on that motion if

[9:16] not always in favor say aye aye opposed abstention the eyes have

[9:22] it

[9:23] uh the third uh item is the dyche

[9:25] library uh public library reopening

[9:27] update

[9:29] are you doing that or uh no i don't mind

[9:32] speaking

[9:32] okay if you want to start yeah

[9:36] thank you i i you know just i contacted

[9:39] the state because i felt my involvement

[9:41] was important for the townspeople the

[9:43] taxpayers and the library

[9:45] um i feel passionate about certain

[9:48] things that's one of the things that i'd

[9:49] like

[9:50] us to finally bring to the forefront and

[9:52] deal with

[9:53] once and for all so thank you for

[9:55] allowing me to stay involved

[9:58] this discussion i think is going to go

[9:59] beyond tonight

[10:01] but i want you to know in my absence

[10:04] last week i watched the

[10:06] meeting i took the feedback i think it

[10:10] was a great discussion

[10:11] that was a good start to the dialogue

[10:14] but i also want you to know that the

[10:16] building needs study committee

[10:18] in no way was to say this is the

[10:19] direction that we need to go

[10:21] we wanted that to be a starting point

[10:24] that included this

[10:25] brought in the selectmen and then opened

[10:27] up the dialogue between

[10:29] the committee the selectmen and the

[10:30] townspeople to figure out what deity

[10:32] needs to do to finally get this

[10:34] library situation figured out

[10:37] so um although i we did make a couple of

[10:40] recommendations

[10:41] i think it's fairly fluid um obviously

[10:44] since then we've acted uh

[10:46] through the administrative mullen with

[10:48] seeing what other avenues were available

[10:50] so um you know i don't know how this is

[10:53] going to play out but i want to

[10:55] you know have the dialogue bring in the

[10:58] committee members so that their they

[11:00] can be heard as well even though i

[11:01] authored the letter it was

[11:03] all voices that were on paper so and

[11:06] then debate it like like professionals

[11:08] and figure out what the best thing for

[11:09] the town is and what the best thing for

[11:11] the library is

[11:13] i can give you one update though the

[11:16] structural analysis of the

[11:18] primetime building was brought up the

[11:20] structural engineer was three weeks out

[11:23] i do know him i called him had a

[11:25] technical conversation with him

[11:27] that building would be ruled out if we

[11:29] were to move books into it

[11:31] so i don't see any reason for wasting

[11:33] taxpayer dollars i felt comfortable with

[11:35] the discussion i had with him

[11:36] so we can rule out that as an option for

[11:39] the library

[11:40] if we wanted to bring the books there

[11:43] one of the reasons we came up with the

[11:47] presentation as was as written was that

[11:50] we were very conscious of not fracturing

[11:52] the library any more than it already has

[11:54] been

[11:55] i think we really need to be conscious

[11:57] of that we've done that in the past and

[11:59] i know when we moved

[12:00] some departments to old town hall there

[12:02] was discussion about fracturing

[12:04] government

[12:05] we're all on the same campus but some of

[12:08] the solutions to the library

[12:10] unless we really really put our minds to

[12:12] this is to separate

[12:14] the different um you know services that

[12:17] they have

[12:18] and i want to be careful about that

[12:19] because now we're taking them from a

[12:21] building they couldn't fit in

[12:22] to multiple buildings and i i just don't

[12:25] know how that's going to work for

[12:26] logistics with the library so

[12:29] that said i know we can go on for hours

[12:31] about this and i suggest we do

[12:34] i just think that maybe this isn't the

[12:35] forum we need to

[12:37] maybe publicize it and we need more

[12:39] information too

[12:40] yeah so just so the public knows

[12:44] the library the andrew carnegie uh light

[12:47] public library titans public library

[12:49] will not be used as a library because

[12:50] it's not big enough it's not safe

[12:53] although we're going to put a new egress

[12:55] into the building because it needs two

[12:57] egresses on the

[12:58] main floor so that people can leave the

[13:01] building

[13:01] safely and we're going to have the

[13:02] bathrooms become

[13:04] handicapped platforms the public can use

[13:07] those

[13:09] but still it won't be used as a library

[13:10] it's just too small

[13:12] you may know already that the

[13:15] mass library commission has

[13:19] preliminarily giving us uh will give us

[13:22] four million dollars towards

[13:23] uh adding on to the uh andrew carnegie

[13:25] library and we would have the time when

[13:27] i have to match that

[13:28] with number 11. they usually do two a

[13:31] year so at some point we're going to

[13:32] come up for that

[13:33] i'll speak for myself and not the rest

[13:35] of the board i personally don't think

[13:36] that's a good idea

[13:37] even the plan they have for the the

[13:39] library they say it's going to be good

[13:40] for 20 years so that we're going to be

[13:42] stuck with a

[13:43] they're going to put us they're talking

[13:44] about putting the second floor as well

[13:45] as expanding on the building a little

[13:46] bit

[13:47] we still get the problems with the

[13:48] parking lot i

[13:50] might i personally think we ought to uh

[13:52] build a new library

[13:53] having said that we're in a situation

[13:56] that uh come uh

[13:57] just about labor day i think the day is

[13:59] we're gonna if we don't have a library

[14:01] set up

[14:02] somewhere in town we're actually gonna

[14:03] lose our right to have a

[14:05] library they'll stop us and we won't be

[14:06] able to go to any other library the

[14:08] sales

[14:09] with the sales and go and use our cards

[14:11] here and go to say for example the

[14:12] somerset library

[14:14] so we're trying to find a temporary uh

[14:16] place for

[14:17] a library one of the options was we

[14:20] talked about anyway

[14:21] was prime time which is not being used

[14:24] as you

[14:25] some of you know that we've had some

[14:26] elderly people go over there

[14:28] pre-pandemic people with

[14:31] alzheimer's alzheimer's and they would

[14:34] be stay there for the day it was like a

[14:35] day care but we haven't opened it since

[14:36] the pandemic and we're not sure

[14:38] at what point we're going to open it up

[14:40] but in order for that to be used as a

[14:42] library

[14:42] you have to it has to be able to hold

[14:44] 150 pounds

[14:46] per square foot so if i just stood in a

[14:47] square foot it's gonna

[14:49] already be too much and the books are

[14:50] heavy as you know there's a lot of books

[14:52] i asked the question uh last week if we

[14:55] put less books over there spread them

[14:56] out a little bit and that's not a

[14:57] possibility it has to still be that 150

[14:59] so

[15:00] the report that we just got tonight is

[15:01] that we can't go to uh

[15:04] prime time for the library so now we're

[15:06] looking at

[15:07] other options we're thinking about

[15:09] possibly leasing some

[15:10] something in dayton for the library

[15:13] there's also that possibility of getting

[15:15] a

[15:17] it's not actually a trailer though but

[15:19] it's it's a modular unit modular unit

[15:21] 12 by 60 at a reasonable price would we

[15:24] would be leasing that and

[15:26] we're checking in to see whether the

[15:27] chaos act will cover that at least for

[15:29] the first year at least until the end of

[15:30] on this uh calendar year because the

[15:33] care act

[15:34] ends after that and then this would have

[15:35] to be voted on by the public obviously

[15:38] so those are the different options that

[15:40] uh that we have

[15:42] so yes let's select

[15:45] in regards to discussions about whether

[15:48] or not

[15:49] they are going to down the road have a

[15:51] new building

[15:53] or remodel the old one i strongly

[15:57] support a public forum to discuss the

[16:00] options

[16:01] and to present to the people class

[16:04] breakdown

[16:05] so they can be very much a part of the

[16:08] decision-making process

[16:10] that's sort of what i was alluding to by

[16:12] not getting in too deep right now

[16:14] i want to i want to bring other

[16:15] committee members in i want to invite

[16:17] the public in

[16:18] and i want to discuss it you know in a

[16:20] democratic fashion the way it should be

[16:21] discussed

[16:22] yeah i mean if the if uh number comes up

[16:25] for the library for the addition to the

[16:27] uh

[16:27] andrew carnegie that has to be voted on

[16:28] by the residents

[16:30] uh so we're not at that point but i just

[16:32] thought there's so many people here

[16:34] i thought maybe they were interested in

[16:35] the library so i would give them that

[16:37] information

[16:37] so we're not voting on anything today

[16:39] i'm just expressing and i've said it for

[16:41] years my personal opinion

[16:43] i'm not speaking for the board my

[16:45] personal opinion is that it's cheaper

[16:46] for the town of brighton to build a new

[16:48] library

[16:48] and it's ours it's it's a permanent

[16:50] building for us and it's not gonna

[16:52] expire in five ten or fifteen years

[16:55] so we're not going to be taking yes

[16:56] you're gonna say something

[16:59] now the only question i had is we're

[17:01] heading up to the end of the fiscal year

[17:03] and

[17:04] we had discussed quickly the option of a

[17:07] modular building to

[17:09] house part of the library that

[17:12] discussion may have to happen quicker

[17:14] than the public forum

[17:16] we willing to do that or i mean we're

[17:19] running out of meetings by the end of

[17:20] the fiscal year so

[17:22] we only have one more yeah we have one

[17:24] more we could possibly have a second but

[17:26] that's really towards the end of the uh

[17:28] end of the year no i mean uh i think

[17:32] probably hopefully next week we'll have

[17:33] an answer on the chaos act whether they

[17:35] would cover

[17:36] uh the modular because and then

[17:40] yeah yes and at this point one of the

[17:42] things i mean in terms of a modular you

[17:45] know that wouldn't be

[17:46] any type of i think longer term

[17:49] oh you know oh you know like longer term

[17:54] opportunity solution in any way shape or

[17:56] form that would really just get us to

[17:57] the labor day open

[17:59] be it would be a one year submission

[18:00] from the date that

[18:02] it's delivered so we would only have it

[18:04] for one year

[18:05] so the reason why i mentioned this is um

[18:08] the town of ministry and i were

[18:09] brainstorming

[18:11] in case the cares act does not come

[18:13] through and we can't use kazak funding

[18:15] and one of the options that i put on the

[18:17] table was at the

[18:18] end of the year we had a spending freeze

[18:21] we're going to end up with a lot of

[18:22] accounts that have

[18:23] additional funds in them then maybe we

[18:26] could do a year end

[18:27] to pay for this because the cost was

[18:30] fairly reasonable

[18:32] i think with the utility connections it

[18:34] was going to be a little less than 40

[18:35] 000

[18:37] and that's for a one-year lease right so

[18:39] you know i hate to miss the opportunity

[18:41] if kanzak doesn't come through

[18:43] and being that june 30th is around the

[18:45] corner we may want to have that

[18:47] discussion at the next meeting

[18:48] i'll be it outside of the public forum

[18:50] but at least we can maybe get the funds

[18:52] allocated

[18:53] so if we decide to go that route we uh

[18:56] we can pay for it

[18:57] select and help i just wanted to to

[18:59] clarify when i set a public forum

[19:02] it was not for the temporary

[19:05] relocation it was for what we're going

[19:07] to do

[19:08] at the end of year one when we need a

[19:11] building

[19:12] whether it be the old one remodeled or a

[19:14] brand new one

[19:15] right okay

[19:19] i have a library trustee here do you

[19:20] want to make any comment on this we're

[19:22] not making a decision tonight but

[19:23] i presented the options i'm sorry i came

[19:26] in late but

[19:28] it sounds like continued effort to solve

[19:31] the initial problem then you know

[19:33] i agree uh mr hull that

[19:36] public forum on plans for the future of

[19:38] the library are important

[19:40] we're certainly committed to that so the

[19:43] question i have then is when that year

[19:44] is up we don't have an option to lease

[19:46] that

[19:46] for additional effort as to whether it's

[19:49] available or not after one year but

[19:50] they'll only lease in one year

[19:51] increments

[19:52] um at least that's what i was told yeah

[19:54] so

[19:56] i i guess if we want it for a longer

[19:57] term they're going to ask for more money

[19:58] yeah

[19:59] i'm sure so yeah right now we're looking to have

[20:03] cares covered so they're not going to

[20:04] care

[20:05] they're not going to cover whatever i

[20:07] didn't mean to

[20:08] care they're not going to cover up for

[20:10] longer than a year because the fund's

[20:11] going to run out in december

[20:12] they would hopefully they would provide

[20:14] us with the initial money for the first

[20:15] year anyway so one of the reluctancies i

[20:17] have

[20:18] with longer than a year is

[20:21] as selective as a graphic said last week

[20:24] modulars trailers tend to become

[20:25] permanent

[20:26] and i would hate to see that happen

[20:27] especially since in order to do that

[20:29] we're going to fracture the department and the library is going

[20:32] to be fragmented so i think if that gets a certain year then we can

[20:37] have two locations

[20:38] i think a lot a bigger discussion needs

[20:41] to be

[20:42] when and if we can get a shovel in the

[20:44] ground and what do we do after the year

[20:46] to get us to that point you won't be

[20:48] building a library in a year i can

[20:49] guarantee that boy

[20:50] absolutely but but if we have some sort

[20:52] of

[20:53] plan then maybe we can say okay after

[20:56] the one year do we have another short

[20:58] term plan that puts the library back

[21:00] together

[21:01] while we're getting this new library off

[21:02] the ground

[21:06] so i think that and i know this is

[21:08] preliminary but

[21:10] if we could get cares to pay for

[21:11] anything to offset

[21:13] you know like the taxpayers funding a

[21:16] temporary solution i think that that's

[21:18] a plus um and then you know we could

[21:21] figure out the second year and the third

[21:23] year because i think

[21:24] where what 12 on that 11 and 12

[21:27] and but they're not even accepting new

[21:29] applications i'm 11 and 12.

[21:30] to add to that correct delight and

[21:33] reconnecting correct

[21:34] i don't think that i don't think uh

[21:36] taxpayers are going to support that yeah

[21:37] i know i know it's important

[21:40] i think is i actually believe it's

[21:41] cheaper to build a new library then

[21:44] renovate it eight million dollars on

[21:46] that site

[21:47] yeah that's not a that's not a good site

[21:49] it's not it's not a good site and

[21:51] even on this grant that we've supposedly

[21:54] were eligible unless we do something on

[21:55] that site we have to start the process

[21:57] again and i was

[21:58] and at the meeting last week they're not

[21:59] even accepting applications now

[22:01] and if somebody uh sometimes been given

[22:04] uh a grant

[22:05] more than 20 years ago they're able to

[22:07] reapply again for

[22:08] additions or whatever so that numbers of

[22:10] talent supply and it's even going to

[22:12] increase so so the only reason i i

[22:14] suggested

[22:15] using taxpayer funds or at least

[22:17] appropriating taxpayer funds before the

[22:19] end of the year is if here's act doesn't

[22:21] come through

[22:21] now we need to wait until and that's

[22:23] passed off and we lose

[22:25] yeah we can't do that either yeah it's a

[22:28] rock and a hard place i just think that

[22:32] i think it's attractive to have cares

[22:35] fun that first year

[22:36] we can figure it out and because the

[22:38] other thing is you've said

[22:40] quite honestly is that um they're not

[22:42] accepting new applications so we can

[22:44] if we wanted to if the public had if

[22:46] there were support let's say we had the

[22:48] forum as

[22:49] selectman hall wants to and i support

[22:50] that as well i think it's a good idea

[22:53] we still can't submit an application and

[22:55] you know there's no

[22:57] even if the the project is really

[22:59] attractive more attractive than the

[23:00] renovation project

[23:02] i think that there's a chance that we're

[23:04] on a waiting list again

[23:06] um and even if we were number one that

[23:09] still is going to take

[23:10] you know the police station look that

[23:12] was a long process it didn't

[23:13] happen quickly and so we should

[23:17] be honest with people the temporary

[23:19] solution is going to be a few years

[23:21] and i think we need to be honest and i

[23:22] think that that's what's transparent

[23:24] here so

[23:25] right so the building needs study

[23:26] committee is going to reconvene

[23:28] even though we just had one meeting last

[23:30] week where i wasn't present the feedback

[23:32] from you was great

[23:34] the new information about prime time is

[23:36] also helpful so

[23:38] we intend to have another discussion

[23:40] based on all the facts that we have to

[23:42] date

[23:43] and when it comes time we'll certainly

[23:45] mean again before the public forum but

[23:47] i think there are some options available

[23:49] to us to deal with that problem because

[23:51] it is a problem

[23:52] so so we'll be fully engaged with you

[23:54] about that and thank you for allowing me

[23:56] to stay involved i think it's a benefit

[23:57] to the taxpayer and the whole situation

[23:59] to have me involved so thank you you're

[24:00] the facilities manager

[24:04] so do you think we'll be able to vote on

[24:06] this uh

[24:07] at the next uh next meeting board of

[24:09] slackers meetings uh yes yes i'm gonna

[24:11] follow up with a

[24:12] f uh by the end of this week uh to see

[24:15] if they've had time to digest any of the

[24:17] information we sent over

[24:19] um and mr aguirre said i'm actually

[24:22] mentioned i think

[24:22] it i think at this point uh for the

[24:26] meeting on the 23rd anyhow we were

[24:28] already planning

[24:29] um on proposing transfers to the board

[24:32] of selectmen

[24:33] um and already we had a financial

[24:35] meeting this afternoon

[24:38] oh you know to try to identify aries

[24:42] uh you know where we might be able to

[24:43] fund that thirty thousand dollars from

[24:46] uh like so we'll be ready just in the

[24:48] event as a contingency to have that

[24:50] funding ready to be proposed in the

[24:51] event that we don't

[24:53] um actually have i'm a good answer or

[24:56] like an answer that we would hope for

[24:57] from the state

[24:59] so we'll put on the agenda for any

[25:01] further discussion on this no thank you the next uh agenda item is

[25:06] the minutes i asked for a motion to

[25:08] approve the minutes of april 28

[25:09] 2021 so moved is there a second in a

[25:14] second

[25:15] uh just so you know i did have some uh

[25:19] a minor uh correction on it that you may

[25:21] not have seen okay i was on a

[25:23] selectmen's report i gave a report on

[25:24] the uh

[25:26] it's not the community garden but the

[25:27] james briggs garden it's going to be

[25:28] next door

[25:29] uh and it said that uh mr again was

[25:31] there it wasn't it was uh actually

[25:32] uh mr ferry that was at the meeting so

[25:34] that's been corrected so just so you

[25:37] know full disclosure that's been a

[25:38] change in it sounds good

[25:41] uh any discussion if not all those in

[25:44] favor say aye aye opposed extension the eyes have

[25:47] it

[25:48] uh public input just before the public

[25:51] gets to speak i just wanted to

[25:53] uh the three of us attended the uh

[25:55] historical commission's

[25:56] boston philippine that was given to the

[25:58] family of maria

[25:59] barboza and it was present it was a very

[26:02] good uh

[26:03] presentation i want to thank the members

[26:05] of the

[26:06] historical commission you happen to have

[26:07] a couple members here but

[26:09] pat gales who's the chairman pat olson

[26:11] uh pamela nicholson

[26:12] gail salvi who is here and uh raffer who

[26:15] is also here and bill crude who's not

[26:17] here but they did a

[26:18] great job and pam and myself and my wife

[26:22] we went to the barbosa farm after they

[26:24] had a little celebration with their

[26:25] family

[26:26] and uh they were very impressed with the presentation so

[26:30] uh i know we're gonna do it or you're

[26:32] gonna do it in a couple of weeks

[26:33] so you get a high bar now to but they uh

[26:37] the family was very supportive as you

[26:39] may not know but there was

[26:40] probably 40 45 people there some town

[26:43] officials

[26:44] uh but the the families were represented

[26:47] uh maria barboza

[26:48] was our oldest person in town and she um

[26:51] she passed away before we actually

[26:52] able to do the presentation but she was

[26:54] aware uh that we were

[26:56] presenting her we did it to the with the

[26:58] family with the boston post games so

[27:00] i just want to thank the historical

[27:02] commission for the hard work they did

[27:04] uh public input is there any public

[27:07] input

[27:08] and that lies the one situation the

[27:11] current location in the building um if

[27:14] we end up with a new location and they

[27:15] sell that property

[27:17] but that would put some money toward the

[27:18] project wouldn't it yes but

[27:20] it's it's an historical building and i

[27:22] quite frankly i'd be opposed to uh

[27:24] selling my bill i the town will use that

[27:26] building the time we use it for

[27:27] something whether it's a department

[27:29] or something uh but i don't know what the board feels i

[27:33] don't know what the public feels but it

[27:35] would be a shame to uh

[27:37] get rid of the andrew uh kaneki uh

[27:39] building

[27:40] and it's not um it's not

[27:44] from the sounds of it it doesn't sound

[27:46] feasible

[27:48] to get the fourth million and then the

[27:49] matching to

[27:51] renovate that space with it the plan is

[27:53] they present to the planets

[27:55] to expand the building a little bit and

[27:56] put a second floor on it destroys the whole design of that

[28:01] building quite frankly

[28:02] and i saw somewhere and i may be wrong

[28:04] but it was good for 20 years

[28:06] and why you know that's a very small

[28:09] spot parking is limited and i i want to

[28:12] support i actually think the town can

[28:14] spend less money because we would be

[28:17] obligated to pay four million dollars

[28:18] and don't forget this these are figures

[28:20] that were given to us a few years ago

[28:22] anybody's bought a two by four

[28:24] the price is almost tripled so the

[28:26] expense may go up but i actually think

[28:28] that we can build

[28:29] a better building and what would be the

[28:33] approach i know it's not in stone but

[28:35] approximate cost

[28:37] of a new sustaining building beyond the

[28:39] 28th i don't know but i think the

[28:41] for example the police station which is

[28:42] a lot more detailed as far as

[28:44] equipment and stuff that they had to

[28:45] have in there uh was four and a half

[28:47] million dollars so

[28:48] i think we can build a similar building

[28:50] we don't obviously

[28:52] well maybe we do but uh we won't have

[28:53] jail cells and we don't have that kind

[28:55] of stuff but uh

[28:56] we hope not uh but we won't have all

[28:59] those uh little rooms and it's all separate you know it's divided

[29:03] and put

[29:04] you know as protection for the employees

[29:06] over there that kind of stuff we won't

[29:08] necessarily need that for a library but

[29:10] my gut feelings is going to be cheaper

[29:12] just to build a new library yeah it

[29:13] would be a shame to lose the sales

[29:15] because

[29:15] that connects us with all the other

[29:17] rooms that's absolutely that's the

[29:18] important thing

[29:20] yep and uh so did we we went to somerset

[29:23] a lot

[29:25] and we even if that was open as a

[29:27] library now we can't

[29:28] use the basement we can't use the the

[29:30] second floor just that main floor

[29:32] and we can only fit so many people in

[29:33] there so it's really not a good

[29:35] option for us and the uh fire chief and

[29:37] the police chief have both said it's not

[29:39] safe for us to open up as a library so

[29:41] that's why we unfortunately have this

[29:42] option

[29:43] uh we have to look at these uh different

[29:45] options but uh i see as mr again said leasing is a

[29:50] temporary solution it's not gonna be

[29:52] we need to own the building the town of

[29:54] brighton deserves to have its own

[29:55] library and we shouldn't be obligated to

[29:57] pay somebody else

[29:58] annually you want to say something um so

[30:01] the

[30:03] building as it is now what you

[30:07] because it's not gone yet but what are

[30:09] some of the potential uses for it

[30:11] if we kept it and didn't sell it

[30:15] i i guess i can express my uh i'll give

[30:17] you my

[30:18] personal feelings i think the veteran

[30:19] agent could be over there

[30:21] i think the maybe possibility of i'll

[30:23] stay in front of the building commission

[30:24] the building

[30:25] department to be over there uh it's you

[30:27] know the public will be able to go you

[30:29] know for this

[30:30] the public will be well aware of what

[30:32] that building is for so that instead of

[30:33] going over here or going coming over

[30:35] here they'll know where to go for

[30:36] certain services so uh but it can be

[30:38] utilized

[30:40] i'd be so opposed to uh selling it and i

[30:42] don't think we'll get the money that

[30:44] uh i think that you think that we'd uh

[30:46] be able to call somebody mentioned that

[30:47] we'd be able to get so

[30:48] mr again so there's a plan in place

[30:50] right now to

[30:52] put an accessible ramp excuse me on the

[30:55] building and an accessible restroom in

[30:57] the building

[30:58] right now the restroom is fractured the

[31:01] facilities are in an old closet the

[31:04] handle or sink is in the hallway

[31:06] so it's just you know it served its

[31:08] purpose

[31:09] long ago um but you know that library is

[31:12] far outlived it's it's usefulness there the building

[31:16] however as was said

[31:18] is economy building we're the stewards

[31:20] of that building and we we're

[31:22] responsible for making sure it's here

[31:23] for generations to come

[31:25] so i think by moving them out getting

[31:28] the building so it's accessible

[31:29] repairing some of the things that are

[31:31] deficient on it we'll open it up for more use and and more valuable use

[31:36] and i think more people

[31:37] not that the library isn't frequented

[31:39] but i think if it were another build

[31:40] another town

[31:41] service more towns people would be able

[31:43] to appreciate the building for what it

[31:44] is

[31:46] and town always looks towards the future

[31:48] you know we have

[31:49] the old town hall it's called old town

[31:51] hall uh next door was booked in

[31:53] 1869. instead of adding onto this

[31:55] building here we utilize that space over

[31:57] there we're expanding space here we've

[31:58] done changes upstairs the

[32:00] uh we bought a selectmen we had a

[32:01] meeting room upstairs it's no longer

[32:03] there

[32:03] we meet over there now we're using that

[32:05] for the town council so we we always

[32:07] look towards the future as to how we can

[32:08] use these buildings rather than just

[32:09] build a building the library is

[32:11] different we we just can't

[32:13] i don't see this a feasible solution to

[32:15] add on to the uh andrew chronicle you

[32:16] know

[32:17] when the building needs a study

[32:18] committee who's doing their diligence

[32:20] there's an annual report from 1920 i

[32:23] believe

[32:24] that said the library had already

[32:25] outlived its space this was a hundred

[32:28] years ago

[32:29] and we're still talking about it today

[32:31] so um

[32:32] i remember that when that that report

[32:34] came out

[32:41] so so nonetheless i mean you know

[32:43] anybody who's visiting the library sees

[32:45] it it's very constrained

[32:46] and certainly not accessible um and it's

[32:49] you know

[32:50] even for the staff you know they've

[32:51] sacrificed a lot through the years just

[32:53] dealing with the

[32:54] uh inefficiency and deficiencies of the

[32:57] building but

[32:58] i think it's time that we have a healthy

[32:59] discussion and figure it out

[33:01] thanks well i'm going to like slip and

[33:04] hold scoot first

[33:08] i hear some wonderful ideas

[33:11] as a taxpayer and as a representative of

[33:15] people

[33:16] i hear people that are very concerned

[33:19] about their pockets and their bank

[33:21] accounts and their tax rate

[33:25] what i would really like to see the task

[33:27] force come up with

[33:28] is two plans plan a remodeling

[33:31] that facility and what it will cost

[33:34] plan b a new facility and let the

[33:38] taxpayers decide

[33:40] what they want because they're the ones

[33:42] that are going to be paying the bill

[33:45] sure just to clarify that so when that

[33:48] when our number comes up whenever that

[33:50] is gonna be three or four five years

[33:51] down the road

[33:53] it goes before go before the town's

[33:54] people and they'll get the vote on it

[33:56] but

[33:56] i agree with you you should also have a

[33:58] second option so it can't be just

[34:00] reject my position is reject this we

[34:02] need to have something else there

[34:03] yes that's right if we're gonna reject

[34:05] this then let's do this

[34:07] we have to yeah because we can't wait i

[34:10] mean it'll be

[34:11] 10 years before oh yeah ultimately this

[34:14] isn't

[34:14] the study committee's decision to make

[34:17] we're just going to give it

[34:18] facts and then the people will decide

[34:20] what the federal library is

[34:22] but it's it's up to us to make sure that

[34:24] people are well involved

[34:25] so i agree i

[34:29] just like to add that in 2000

[34:32] i was on the library building committee

[34:35] to build

[34:36] a new library that was 21 years ago

[34:40] and we're still talking about it

[34:43] and we're still hearing the same

[34:45] objections we heard 21 years ago

[34:49] and the sad reality is it's going to

[34:52] cost a

[34:52] heck of a lot more money today to build

[34:55] a new one

[34:56] than it would have 21 years ago and we

[35:02] had some uh

[35:02] at that time we had some donations uh g

[35:04] lopez was going to do the foundation for

[35:06] us and

[35:06] we had some other donations yeah i think

[35:09] i i just think that's a really timely

[35:11] point and

[35:12] i remember you brought up something

[35:14] earlier and i thought it was also a

[35:15] really good point about

[35:16] the folks who built libraries 20 years

[35:18] ago are now eligible

[35:20] for more grants we could have been one

[35:22] of those towns that did something

[35:24] 20 years ago and is doing something now

[35:26] um

[35:27] and potentially saved money so um but

[35:30] our job is to give everyone the facts

[35:32] the options and doing nothing is an

[35:34] option

[35:36] it really is um but it comes with

[35:38] ramifications as mr white brought up

[35:40] where we lose our sales certification

[35:43] and anyone who

[35:44] uses the library knows how valuable that

[35:46] is because dayton public library

[35:48] unfortunately isn't big enough to have

[35:50] a lot of the books so a lot of the media

[35:52] materials that

[35:53] people seek so um but i agree with

[35:56] selectmanhole we should

[35:58] gather that data or the building uh

[36:00] study committee would gather that data

[36:02] give everyone the three options the

[36:04] renovation a new library

[36:06] or you know do nothing we're probably

[36:09] going to do this temporary solution

[36:10] regardless

[36:11] but um and then see where it shakes out

[36:14] yeah that's what we'll be voting on in

[36:15] the near future just a temporary

[36:17] solution so um

[36:22] we we're talking about public money and

[36:24] that kind of thing as

[36:26] if it comes from you know the air but it

[36:28] doesn't it comes from

[36:29] us and so you're right we have to be

[36:32] good stewards of that

[36:33] has anyone thought to go to the carnegie

[36:35] foundation they're the ones who gave us

[36:37] the 8 000

[36:38] back in what 1908 to build it has anyone

[36:41] like

[36:41] actually contacted the carnegie

[36:43] foundation

[36:45] knowledge is still extensive yeah that's

[36:47] news to me if it is but

[36:48] i'll take you away for what that is they

[36:50] throw money at

[36:52] you know they've got the 501c3 they're

[36:53] throwing money um i think wqed in

[36:56] pittsburgh

[36:56] is the local public um

[37:00] you know pbs station so that's one of

[37:02] those things where

[37:05] there might be some sentimental value

[37:06] because i kind of agree with you again

[37:08] um

[37:09] i you know don't want to see the

[37:11] building disappear

[37:13] you know and it's not just sentiment

[37:14] there's a there's a

[37:16] whatever you want to call it there's

[37:18] continuity to it and everything i'd like

[37:19] to see that stay there i live

[37:21] pretty close um but

[37:25] i don't want to spend a heck of a lot of

[37:26] money and i don't know where we're going

[37:27] to get 4 000

[37:29] from 4 million

[37:36] because we have um police cruisers that

[37:39] could be

[37:41] repaired fixed we have fire engines that

[37:44] need to be fixed we have a lot of other

[37:47] needs in this town you know

[37:50] and a library is one of those things

[37:53] that's nice to have

[37:54] it's awesome it's a sign of civilization

[37:57] but

[37:57] we have some more pressing needs right

[37:59] now um

[38:01] so that was that was my only thought on

[38:02] that if we could you know

[38:04] uh approach the carnegie foundation

[38:06] maybe

[38:09] yeah i didn't know it existed so

[38:12] it's good thank you mr chairman yes uh

[38:16] i i agree with mr gallucci um and and

[38:18] you as well

[38:19] um i think that regardless of what

[38:21] happens with the

[38:23] library going forward um that building

[38:26] was

[38:26] a gift um it is historic

[38:29] um it's beautiful and i think that

[38:33] it's something that brought the

[38:34] community together that's why the

[38:35] library is there

[38:36] um and if we could keep that building

[38:40] something that is community-based and

[38:42] i'm not talking about expanding services

[38:44] that's not what i mean i just mean like

[38:46] a community center a place where

[38:48] the community can go maybe not so much

[38:51] uh in my opinion

[38:52] uh like a department building i think

[38:54] we've split

[38:55] um departments enough and gotten the

[38:58] feedback about it too um

[39:00] but if we could keep it a

[39:01] community-based building that would be

[39:03] my preference

[39:04] yeah the other option and maybe it's

[39:05] because i'm a senior but a

[39:07] possibility of a senior center too that

[39:08] people get together that has been

[39:10] brought up by residents as well include

[39:11] you in that group too

[39:16] [Laughter]

[39:19] any other uh question yes

[39:27] building the old um there's plenty of

[39:28] space right there is it possible

[39:30] maybe to purchase like a sizeable amount

[39:33] of that

[39:34] empty building and joining public right

[39:37] here this might be partner space

[39:39] yeah is it so i think here oasis bought

[39:42] the entire building

[39:44] um and they're gonna cultivate and then

[39:46] also rent that was part of the hca

[39:48] tonight

[39:49] so i don't think that i think their

[39:51] intent i shouldn't we can ask them i

[39:53] want to be very clear

[39:54] but i think their intent was to lease

[39:56] the space out to the

[39:57] to other cultivators is what i was

[40:00] but you've worked with them much closer

[40:05] what was that how many cultivators are

[40:07] supposed to well

[40:08] it's uh what's the tax revenue i mean

[40:10] that's you know we're talking about

[40:12] taxes we're talking about spending money

[40:13] for library this is one

[40:15] source of uh revenue for the for the

[40:16] town and we get the three percent impact fee on

[40:20] the sales

[40:21] if we negotiate it into the hca which

[40:23] everyone has had that in there that we

[40:25] have negotiated plus you get you know

[40:27] the real estate tax the property taxes

[40:29] and all that

[40:30] so it is a boom yeah select my health

[40:35] rafa the concern that i have about that it may complicate

[40:41] the approval process with the planning

[40:44] board

[40:45] and with zba in regards to if you put

[40:48] the library up there

[40:50] so close to marijuana with children

[40:53] coming

[40:53] into that building that they may

[40:57] be opposed to the passage of that

[41:02] pure oasis you know we talk about the

[41:04] tax revenue

[41:06] but we're also talking about the

[41:08] potential

[41:09] of 400 jobs

[41:13] and that will have an impact on this

[41:15] community

[41:16] as well um

[41:20] i caution people pure oasis

[41:23] is not a done deal

[41:26] it still has to get by planning board

[41:29] and it still has to get by

[41:31] zba um so

[41:35] there's still work to be done and

[41:37] salesmanship to be done

[41:42] and pure oasis is going to hire mostly

[41:45] daytonians so that's their preference

[41:48] and they will hire uh people who have

[41:52] been arrested for marijuana dealing

[41:55] drug i'm just that's just because they

[41:57] were penalized years back you know i

[41:59] worked in probation for 35 years

[42:01] uh people put on probation some people

[42:02] were put in jail because of marijuana so

[42:04] now they're

[42:05] trying to reverse that because the

[42:06] publisher might be able to tell from

[42:08] here

[42:09] uh that probably should have been legal

[42:10] years ago so uh

[42:13] it's there's there's going to be

[42:14] employment from daytona's which is great

[42:16] not only

[42:17] you know it's it's revenue for the town

[42:19] but it's also putting some people to

[42:21] work which is a great opportunity for

[42:22] dayton but that's the way down the road i think

[42:25] those are all good points um but i also

[42:27] want to

[42:28] add that business begets business so i

[42:31] think the more

[42:33] jobs that we create in dayton then

[42:36] the more likelihood that you'll have

[42:38] restaurants and other places that want

[42:40] to open up this is just my

[42:41] crazy idea um and service those

[42:45] influx of people who maybe no longer

[42:48] have to go to boston for work can go to

[42:50] you know or providence or wherever can

[42:52] now work close to home so

[42:53] like it used to be with the old uh

[42:55] raytheon and icing ici

[42:59] and let's help um dr c

[43:03] in response to that um

[43:06] we have a committee that has dormant now

[43:09] the

[43:09] business and development corporation and

[43:12] i'm hoping in the

[43:14] meetings to come that be able to

[43:18] get your support mr pacheco's support to

[43:22] work on revitalizing that committee

[43:24] absolutely

[43:26] and not just that committee but also the

[43:28] development and industrial commission

[43:29] which is more of a marketing committee yes

[43:36] any other public input is there any

[43:38] public input on there's something in

[43:40] there

[43:41] uh so yeah there was um a little bit of

[43:45] input uh for me from a user nancy mack

[43:48] um and just wanted to clarify uh there

[43:51] that there will be 400 jobs total uh the

[43:54] pure oasis

[43:55] discussed hiring a hundred additional

[43:58] employees

[43:58] from the community yes

[44:04] they're going to hire 100

[44:08] i think all the all the employees that

[44:10] they hire other than

[44:11] management they're going to be

[44:13] preference for titonians if they qualify

[44:15] and then the agreement that we've been

[44:16] voted on if somebody's from somerset and

[44:19] somebody's from

[44:20] the both have the same qualifications

[44:22] the titanium's going to get the job

[44:24] and that's enshrined in the agreement

[44:25] that we signed and both parties agreed

[44:27] to

[44:30] mr white how about security um around

[44:33] the facility

[44:34] i'm sure that's going to be the type of

[44:36] facility that people are going to want

[44:38] into that don't belong in there

[44:40] um how are we going to uh make sure that

[44:43] we've got

[44:44] adequate security well they they i

[44:46] forget how many cameras

[44:47] they have to have but it's fully secured

[44:49] and so

[44:50] if they're growing marijuana here in the

[44:52] building there's gonna

[44:54] it won't be like a windows here to the

[44:55] public so it's gonna be inside the

[44:57] building somewhere

[44:58] and it's gonna be security cameras uh

[45:00] the police department has to be involved

[45:02] in that the police department has the

[45:03] right to look at those cameras

[45:05] uh so i i think it's going to be uh very

[45:08] secure

[45:08] the special program addresses all of

[45:12] that so they're great questions and our

[45:13] planning board has been

[45:14] fully engaged with making sure that's

[45:16] part of their conditions and their

[45:18] special permit

[45:21] and that they have to have a they have

[45:22] to have it like an actual security plan

[45:24] and i think

[45:25] yes and the agreement dpd needs to i

[45:28] think the chief of police has to go in

[45:29] there and like sign off on everything

[45:32] i think the public should also remember

[45:34] that part of the reason why

[45:36] this not just this board but the board

[45:38] with um

[45:39] selectmen gular as well had been

[45:41] supportive of the

[45:42] three percent impact fee is in case

[45:45] something

[45:45] happens and you have to have more police

[45:48] presence or

[45:49] police have to go out um due to calls or

[45:52] things like that so it's in

[45:53] and i'm not saying that's going to

[45:54] happen i'm just saying it's an

[45:56] anticipation of things like that

[45:58] even though it's a business and not a

[46:00] family that's going to

[46:01] you know for example send a child to

[46:03] school which is a cost to the taxpayers

[46:06] um so they're we're anticipating things

[46:09] like that as well as best that we can

[46:11] so the revenue being used to pay the

[46:14] employees

[46:15] are marijuana

[46:19] facilities allowed to put money in banks

[46:22] it was a period of time has that been

[46:25] rectified

[46:26] or do they have to deal in a cash

[46:28] business

[46:29] what's that what's the currency it's

[46:31] been fleshed out has it been flushed out

[46:33] um it's easier i wouldn't say it's

[46:35] completely flexible yeah

[46:36] i haven't heard anything different from

[46:38] this because not all

[46:40] the banks are uh fdic insured

[46:43] and the rules were that your state can

[46:46] do something

[46:47] but the banking commission would not

[46:49] allow the federal rules from

[46:50] that type of money so if that's been

[46:54] fleshed out

[46:55] then it's easy to make payroll for the

[46:57] people yeah

[46:58] i thought i saw some banking i think it

[47:00] was just a massachusetts bank

[47:02] that was lending them money or having

[47:04] some accounts but i'm not positive of

[47:06] that

[47:06] i can't remember the name i have an

[47:08] answer i spoke with an attorney there's

[47:10] one bank in the area

[47:11] local area that is dealing with

[47:13] marijuana facilities

[47:15] but you're right yes they are

[47:18] yeah federal governments allow you yes and that was i questioned him on it because i i heard

[47:23] the same thing you did and there's only

[47:25] one bank that's large enough to do it

[47:27] in this area so that's what they're all

[47:28] i'm a licensed financial advisor and

[47:30] i'm not allowed to put clients into

[47:33] those types of

[47:34] investments yeah you can't

[47:38] you're right they all they seek private

[47:39] funds for investments

[47:41] but the actual banking to do payroll or

[47:43] whatnot there's one bank in the area

[47:45] that's doing it

[47:46] in colorado for years they were paying

[47:47] people with cash on that payment

[47:50] and they had a big vault in there and

[47:51] that was another security issue right they were i'm not sure what they

[47:56] feared more people stealing the

[47:58] marijuana

[47:58] people stealing the money but uh well

[48:00] the cartels were coming in because they

[48:02] didn't want to be in competition

[48:05] did you mr chairman is it okay uh we had a conversation earlier and you had

[48:09] said that

[48:10] um you know it's impossible to

[48:12] anticipate

[48:14] expenses and things like that that may

[48:16] arise from um

[48:17] the business opening but that we would

[48:19] monitor

[48:20] things like you know um okay the police

[48:23] are going out a lot or the fire

[48:24] department and things like that so did

[48:26] you wanna

[48:27] just for the public because we had a

[48:28] couple questions about it

[48:30] so yes in the three percent in three

[48:32] percent i mean what the three percent

[48:34] envisions is any type of

[48:36] additional um i like additional

[48:39] enforcement activities like from

[48:41] inspection from police

[48:43] uh like for money public safety i like

[48:45] any type of additional town efforts that

[48:51] we would

[48:52] uh you know as a town have to provide i

[48:54] would be included in the three percent

[48:56] uh one of the things i'm actually

[49:00] happening in other communities across

[49:01] the state right now is there's a lot of

[49:03] scrutiny

[49:04] i'm on exactly what i'm exactly what type of expenses are

[49:09] included in the three percent

[49:11] uh actually practically speaking i like

[49:14] and what a lot of and what a lot of

[49:17] uh cities in town are having to do now

[49:19] is trying to quantify

[49:21] i like exactly what exactly what type of

[49:24] expenses are made up

[49:26] oh you know like in the first second and

[49:28] third year in the three percent to

[49:30] quantify that all i can hope so i mean

[49:33] if

[49:34] i like if pure oasis is ever i'm in fact

[49:37] up and running you know this

[49:40] uh oh yeah the agree

[49:43] the agreement approved this evening is

[49:44] for five years

[49:46] i like and the expectation is after the

[49:48] five years all parties would really know

[49:50] the true costs

[49:52] all i can oh in any future agreement any

[49:55] future agreement would recognize

[49:58] oh you can better reflect any true costs

[50:00] that the

[50:02] oh you know our community really faces

[50:03] and has to deal with as a result

[50:08] yes is there a model that worked that

[50:11] they are

[50:11] using to come up with the amount of

[50:14] money that they think that's going to

[50:15] equal to

[50:16] over those five years

[50:19] oh you know uh you know i'm in terms of

[50:22] um

[50:23] i'm in terms of a model the model is

[50:25] really the three percent

[50:26] but every you know what i mean but what

[50:28] is it equal what is

[50:30] after

[50:34] oh yeah like in terms of a projection

[50:35] yeah like they don't actually

[50:37] know that yet because the market is

[50:39] still evolving

[50:44] going back from now to five years what

[50:47] is what is the model for that come to

[50:50] what does those figures

[50:51] equal well we don't know that only

[50:54] because

[50:54] i'm saying the company yeah the company

[50:56] because they're starting off small

[50:58] and they hope to expand they're going to

[51:00] get other companies

[51:02] so they don't have anything like this

[51:04] that's

[51:05] no they only have uh

[51:09] yeah they have a registered marijuana

[51:10] disease

[51:12] yeah they but they don't cultivate it

[51:13] correct so they want

[51:15] this site to help support their

[51:18] operation in dorchester

[51:19] um which makes sense we're we're a small

[51:22] quiet town

[51:23] you know it's not dorchester hopefully

[51:25] there's less crime obviously here so

[51:28] yeah i think they talked about uh and

[51:30] correct me from wrong that

[51:31] they were gonna use a hundred thousand

[51:33] square feet to grow marijuana

[51:35] there's another company that is

[51:36] interested it'll come also before us and

[51:39] we'll have a similar agreement

[51:40] that will also be called the growing

[51:42] marijuana there so

[51:43] they hope to expand none of the

[51:45] businesses there are going to

[51:47] be thrown out so those businesses that

[51:49] are there they continue

[51:51] being there but they it's i think

[51:53] instead of half a million square feet

[51:54] something like that that the building so

[51:55] they have a great potential

[51:57] uh for that and the town has a great

[51:59] potential for revenue

[52:00] that you that you know that's actually

[52:03] one of my

[52:04] concerns and it would be nice i think if

[52:06] we could have a stipulation

[52:07] in there as far as a

[52:10] gradual time frame because since

[52:14] we don't have any concrete figures

[52:16] because they don't they've never done

[52:18] this before

[52:19] they're going to have their business

[52:21] you're saying and i've heard them say

[52:22] too they're going to have

[52:24] another we go a certain amount of

[52:28] years a certain time frame before they

[52:30] can't just like all of a sudden you have

[52:32] another one another one another one

[52:34] and you know what they mean it's like

[52:37] not

[52:38] or do we not have anything to say on

[52:40] that the time

[52:42] the town of dayton i mean well they we

[52:44] would be signing a host uh agreement

[52:46] with

[52:46] whatever new company comes in for

[52:48] leasing so

[52:50] right now we just made the agreement

[52:51] with pure oasis who's talking about 100

[52:53] 000 square feet

[52:54] and quite frankly they may start off

[52:57] with 50 000

[52:58] square feet but they their potential for

[53:00] them is a hundred thousand square feet

[53:01] and then they

[53:02] will expand well it seemed like they

[53:03] actually if i heard correctly they had

[53:05] like two or three other businesses that were actually

[53:09] interested in coming and doing the same

[53:11] thing that they're doing

[53:16] let's keep a lid on it you know

[53:19] for the first couple years see see how

[53:22] much police

[53:24] uh we need see how much you know just so

[53:27] we know what is this actually

[53:29] are we doing better with them

[53:34] financially are we breaking you know

[53:35] what i mean as opposed to them getting

[53:37] another one and another one

[53:39] like see what happened get them and then

[53:43] maybe

[53:43] one on there yeah it's three percent of

[53:46] their gross sales so whenever they sell

[53:47] their product to another business

[53:50] i think uh my personal feeling is is

[53:53] that

[53:54] it's going to be difficult for us to

[53:55] prove to three percent because there's a

[53:57] lot of different things

[53:58] uh so i don't think we're gonna that's

[54:00] why i say it'd be nice to see like

[54:01] literally facts and things

[54:03] but we know what we we what we can look

[54:05] at

[54:06] so if we have somebody here in the

[54:07] office here who's actually keeping track

[54:08] of the expenses that the town

[54:10] that person while they're doing that

[54:12] gets that's part of the

[54:14] uh the three percent uh that we'll be

[54:16] asking but it's the police system

[54:18] i can't you know who knows but i i don't

[54:20] think it's i think we're gonna be able

[54:21] to get

[54:22] like put put the brakes on a little bit

[54:26] i see this yeah i hear what you're

[54:28] saying my personal feeling is and i'm

[54:29] not talking about the board we need to

[54:30] bring revenue into town i see it all the

[54:32] time on facebook and everything else

[54:34] where i bring businesses

[54:35] in we're not forced to smoke the

[54:37] marijuana i'm not forcing

[54:38] anything like that it's going to be

[54:40] taken out of town it's going to go up

[54:41] it could be any businesses i'm not i'm

[54:44] not singling out

[54:44] marijuana and the way they're running

[54:46] the business however

[54:49] see if you want to like talk about

[54:50] marijuana the one thing that does

[54:52] concern me concerning marijuana

[54:54] is they were asked a few times in their

[54:58] um info thing that they did

[55:01] a couple weeks ago what they plan on

[55:04] doing as far as a filtration

[55:07] hvac type system for odor

[55:10] and i really didn't get again any

[55:13] actual specific

[55:16] unit that they're using name that

[55:18] they're using and the efficiency

[55:20] and the actual outcome

[55:24] that this is success has been used here

[55:27] and it's

[55:27] the air is you know it's a certain

[55:30] percentage

[55:31] it's clear yeah even again i think it'd

[55:34] be nice for them

[55:35] not nice i mean they should know exactly

[55:39] what system they're being put in but all

[55:41] of that

[55:43] has to do with if

[55:46] like you the towns people kind of give

[55:48] them the green light

[55:49] upon you know those are things that they

[55:53] have to satisfy correct

[55:54] yes but that the the grant uh the

[55:58] it's the planning board that will

[55:59] actually give them the permit for this

[56:00] so it's not

[56:01] us to make that decision obviously we

[56:03] don't want order to be an issue

[56:04] and if you remember from that uh it was

[56:06] i believe it was last week

[56:08] they had two options but they didn't say

[56:09] which one they were going to use right

[56:11] what they did say what

[56:12] might not this one might not work that

[56:14] well if they went so that it's just

[56:16] when you start getting into maybe maybe

[56:19] not

[56:21] but what they did say was that because

[56:22] something that they had has experience

[56:24] in this field and they're going to

[56:25] listen to the consultant so that

[56:27] whatever mistakes they've made in the

[56:28] past they could someone said this

[56:29] filtration

[56:30] system doesn't work this is the one that

[56:31] we're going to go with i'm obviously i

[56:34] can't speak for the board but

[56:35] we're not going to tolerate odor coming

[56:37] from uh from over there

[56:39] quite frankly so but it is that it is

[56:41] the planning board that

[56:42] would impose that as like a condition on

[56:45] any special permit and they i just want

[56:47] to be clear they act completely

[56:48] independent from us they are

[56:50] they run their own elections they are

[56:51] their own elected officials so they

[56:53] would impose those conditions and i would assume they would have a

[56:57] public hearing

[56:58] um that night when they were going to

[57:00] vote and everybody could come that was

[57:02] interested and and i think that that's a

[57:03] good point i think that's fair

[57:05] um we don't want it to smell obviously

[57:08] and

[57:08] if they're not going to be the only ones

[57:10] over there i think it's very

[57:12] fair to to say that actually

[57:15] uh leanna's hand up first i just i just

[57:17] had a real quick question um what kind

[57:19] of oversight beyond

[57:20] the department of revenue and their tax

[57:22] returns does the town

[57:26] yeah to ensure that we're actually

[57:28] getting yeah i know that they give us

[57:29] they're going to have to give us an

[57:30] annual

[57:31] report that we'll all get the

[57:32] opportunity to take a look at

[57:34] okay uh we gotta

[57:37] say trust us

[57:52] and for a long time we got you know

[57:54] pretty good money from them on an annual

[57:56] basis

[57:56] under no firm obligation and then that

[57:59] all came to an end

[58:00] so i just want to be sure that we don't

[58:02] go into this

[58:04] blindly and remember how that can

[58:07] actually go yeah and that's what we

[58:10] thought we were going to get

[58:11] right if i remember correctly it was a

[58:13] 10-year agreement 100 000

[58:15] a year uh not geared for anything so the

[58:18] town actually i

[58:19] actually think was the boris left and

[58:20] decided where that money was going to go

[58:22] which i'm not

[58:23] too crazy about uh so uh

[58:26] this is your five-year agreement and

[58:28] then it gets renewed and uh

[58:30] like mr mueller autonomous said that we

[58:32] get to see exactly what we've had to use

[58:34] for expenses we

[58:35] i don't believe we keep we can go higher

[58:37] than three percent that's the state yeah

[58:38] it does yeah that's the ceiling

[58:40] with the highest figure hopefully we can

[58:43] show that

[58:44] yeah we've used that three percent if

[58:47] now it's gonna be a little less but

[58:48] that would be our goal so

[58:51] any other questions

[58:56] okay we'll go to the next item uh

[58:58] minutes uh

[58:59] last week was there anything on there

[59:01] just before can you move on

[59:02] let's see it's chuck oh yeah um

[59:05] i also like we're in public to comment

[59:07] at this point correct yes

[59:09] okay uh so we do have um a hand

[59:12] uh from jaws from from justin travis our

[59:15] library director

[59:17] okay and i'll ask um i'll ask her to

[59:19] unmute so she can

[59:21] speak jasmine mr virus

[59:28] no i was i don't really need to say

[59:30] anything the conversation had shifted

[59:32] away from the library so i didn't want

[59:34] to

[59:34] bring it back when um

[59:38] it had already shifted so okay wait

[59:42] thank you very much

[59:46] go to the next item minutes approval of

[59:47] them well we already did that public

[59:49] input

[59:49] we're going to go into executive session

[59:51] under massachusetts general law chapter

[59:53] 38 section 1

[59:55] 21 a 3 3 to discuss the strategy with

[59:59] respect to collective blogging or

[1:00:00] litigation if an open meeting may have

[1:00:02] a detrimental effect on the bargaining

[1:00:04] or litigating position of the public

[1:00:06] body

[1:00:06] and the chair so declares i declare in

[1:00:09] negotiations with the dayton police

[1:00:11] officers mass

[1:00:12] cop cop 30c we will not be coming back

[1:00:15] into a public meeting so we're going to

[1:00:16] have to go into executive

[1:00:18] session and um that will be it uh

[1:00:22] for the night so i'll entertain

[1:00:23] promotions so moved so a second

[1:00:26] are we going to have public input we

[1:00:29] hope we just have public

[1:00:30] input we have a couple more things we

[1:00:33] want to do

[1:00:34] okay i'll retract my emotions

[1:00:38] okay well i had asked if there's any

[1:00:40] more public input there was any

[1:00:41] i'm sorry that that's that's fine is

[1:00:43] there more on that topic

[1:00:45] another topic that we were on yeah okay

[1:00:48] any public input on anything else

[1:00:52] is this is this anything anything

[1:00:57] i see the policy here i live on forestry

[1:01:00] in the troublemaker area uh

[1:01:03] the firing range you know i was missing

[1:01:07] vietnam

[1:01:08] there i thought it was back in vietnam

[1:01:11] two days just that gun range was crazy

[1:01:14] mm-hmm when was this you don't mind me

[1:01:17] asking yeah

[1:01:17] this week i usually hear it when it's

[1:01:20] like that and i didn't

[1:01:22] work working in the yard two days just

[1:01:25] going and going

[1:01:27] didn't we asked a while ago we called

[1:01:30] the police station

[1:01:32] they said they had leased at the time

[1:01:35] we have an agreement with them that we do mutual trainings we do some things

[1:01:40] in time but we do allow them to use the

[1:01:42] range but we were

[1:01:43] i thought we were supposed to release i

[1:01:45] thought that public was supposed to be

[1:01:46] never

[1:01:47] right now can we not use that red flag

[1:01:50] not

[1:01:58] it usually happens in september so

[1:02:00] that's why i'm surprised that

[1:02:02] this is september but that's a good uh

[1:02:06] it wasn't my understanding it was awful

[1:02:09] it was off

[1:02:10] suddenly uh just listen to gunfire for

[1:02:12] two days

[1:02:14] it wasn't a weekend though right now

[1:02:15] yeah during the weekend yeah

[1:02:18] during the day yeah okay all day

[1:02:22] we were we had asked that

[1:02:26] a statement be made on the facebook page

[1:02:29] before

[1:02:30] the gun activity were to occur just to

[1:02:31] notify people in the area because some

[1:02:33] people don't drive

[1:02:34] down there and notice the red flag so we

[1:02:36] can

[1:02:38] certainly ensure that that happens going

[1:02:39] forward and i thank you for letting us

[1:02:41] know

[1:02:43] okay another thing the speed limit signs

[1:02:47] of

[1:02:47] forestry where are we at with that

[1:02:50] i mean we did a traffic study november

[1:02:52] uh 2019.

[1:02:55] i mean should we go to congress to get a

[1:02:57] speedo

[1:02:59] i mean i'm not sure what effect they'll

[1:03:02] have on mass d.o.t but

[1:03:03] it couldn't hurt but in all seriousness

[1:03:06] yeah are we gonna

[1:03:07] have a bylaw that we're gonna present at

[1:03:08] the special town meeting in october to

[1:03:12] grant us permission to set

[1:03:15] to establish speed safety zones

[1:03:18] specifically the one that has been

[1:03:20] discussed has been for pleasant street

[1:03:22] so far

[1:03:26] i think i talked to fred about this is

[1:03:28] that the 20 miles an hour

[1:03:30] yes

[1:03:33] the average speed is 41 right now

[1:03:37] um forestry you're talking about how far

[1:03:39] is it and we walk there constantly

[1:03:41] and if you know i gotta i'm gonna get an

[1:03:44] app for my phone will

[1:03:45] tell me the speed because a lot of times

[1:03:47] they're over 40

[1:03:49] and to put a 20 mile an hour speeds on

[1:03:52] there

[1:03:54] is that are they going to do it i don't

[1:03:56] think that's what you're talking about

[1:03:57] you're just asking for

[1:03:59] speed limit signs for the 30 miles per

[1:04:01] hour which i believe is the limit right

[1:04:03] so we can if you if you can put it on

[1:04:05] the agenda we can ask tom

[1:04:07] uh oh superintendent ferry is here is he

[1:04:09] still here

[1:04:10] oh okay is there a chance we could

[1:04:13] put a stop sign in the middle that has

[1:04:15] been just that has been discussed before

[1:04:18] we discussed that yeah

[1:04:22] we think that that may be a problem yeah

[1:04:24] no we've discussed that in the past

[1:04:26] uh we think some studies show that if

[1:04:28] you put stop signs then what happens is

[1:04:30] people stop and then they speed up

[1:04:32] actually drive faster they get to the

[1:04:33] next stop circle back

[1:04:35] absolutely i do i do

[1:04:38] feel personally

[1:04:41] the other thing is i've noticed that

[1:04:42] we've asked the chief uh

[1:04:44] police to have more enforcement of this

[1:04:46] you know you can probably speed

[1:04:48] limit signs up but if you don't have

[1:04:49] enforcement it doesn't make any sense

[1:04:51] and i've noticed just the past couple

[1:04:52] days there's been cruises on different

[1:04:54] streets

[1:04:56] so i'm glad that they're out there in

[1:04:57] the community now and uh hopefully

[1:04:59] i've seen given those uh speeders

[1:05:01] tickets but uh

[1:05:02] interesting about far street when they

[1:05:04] did that study and i believe the

[1:05:05] police department had actually stopped

[1:05:07] some people

[1:05:08] uh a lot of those people that we stopped

[1:05:10] for speeding were residents of

[1:05:12] forestry that's uh that's a little bit

[1:05:16] of

[1:05:16] the problem there but that might

[1:05:19] personally no i'm not saying it's europe

[1:05:20] my personal feeling is that i don't care

[1:05:22] where you live if you're speeding it you

[1:05:23] get a ticket

[1:05:24] yeah yeah and that's that's how you get

[1:05:27] the message out

[1:05:28] right but you're correct that forestry

[1:05:30] was actually brought this to our

[1:05:31] attention the

[1:05:32] full speeding thing was street foreign i

[1:05:36] don't have to see it there we go

[1:05:37] seven or eight one of us uh forest

[1:05:39] street pleasant street

[1:05:41] uh i'm not sure i think part of william

[1:05:42] street was correct fremont street

[1:05:44] portland

[1:05:45] barton maple i believe yeah

[1:05:52] i just heard the other night there was

[1:05:53] another marijuana discussion

[1:05:55] that's going to go on william street and

[1:05:57] they were concerned about these

[1:05:59] speed on william street is a nightmare

[1:06:02] so

[1:06:11] yeah i've noticed that yeah i mean

[1:06:13] especially with that construction of the

[1:06:14] house

[1:06:15] on the corner yeah well that's on uh

[1:06:18] technically tremont yeah

[1:06:20] but it there's constantly tripped it's a

[1:06:22] cut through

[1:06:24] from time to time correct

[1:06:27] does it fly down there to us and i've

[1:06:30] seen them

[1:06:32] full disclosure i'm involved in the

[1:06:33] historical side which is at the center

[1:06:35] of william street right i swear there's

[1:06:36] gonna be accidents almost every day and

[1:06:37] a lot of times there's big tractor

[1:06:38] trailers that

[1:06:39] just come down down the hill and uh if

[1:06:42] you're leaving center to go on william

[1:06:43] street you know

[1:06:44] this is a hill you may not see it but

[1:06:46] they come down so fast

[1:06:47] something's going to happen there so so

[1:06:49] i also want you to know that we have

[1:06:51] discussed with the

[1:06:52] um just casually with the chief of

[1:06:54] police

[1:06:55] um we've bandied ideas like

[1:06:59] dedicating someone to traffic

[1:07:00] enforcement or having

[1:07:02] part of someone's dedicated role traffic

[1:07:05] enforcement being one of their

[1:07:06] priorities they could

[1:07:08] earn their own salary it wouldn't be

[1:07:10] much trouble

[1:07:12] i mean you could you could probably pay

[1:07:14] for a car or a salary

[1:07:15] from the tickets maybe then it would

[1:07:18] slow down

[1:07:19] yeah i just know that i got a commitment

[1:07:21] from the chief that uh

[1:07:23] because we just hired two police

[1:07:24] officers so i said can we get them out

[1:07:26] on the streets because that's what

[1:07:27] people are talking about

[1:07:28] there isn't that much crime in that not

[1:07:30] that there isn't crime but there is you

[1:07:32] know there isn't that much

[1:07:33] but speeding is a big issue for a lot of

[1:07:35] people and if you got young children

[1:07:37] yeah yeah

[1:07:41] we that's a very good crowd here this

[1:07:43] evening i commend you and thank you for

[1:07:46] your participation in government and i'm

[1:07:48] going to throw this out

[1:07:50] i don't have an answer but i welcome

[1:07:52] your input

[1:07:54] i've heard all kinds of discussions

[1:07:57] about

[1:07:57] 40 30 20 mile an hour speed limits but i

[1:08:00] scratch my head and i say

[1:08:02] you could make a tent but if there's no

[1:08:04] one to enforce it

[1:08:06] doesn't matter you're not signing there

[1:08:07] right now at 40 and it's not being

[1:08:09] enforced

[1:08:10] and i'm throwing this out for feedback

[1:08:13] not because i've drawn an opinion and i

[1:08:16] know other communities

[1:08:17] do quotas and i'm questioning whether or

[1:08:20] not

[1:08:21] a quota system put in place with the

[1:08:23] police department

[1:08:25] may not be necessary to get

[1:08:29] speed under control in this town i have

[1:08:31] a thought

[1:08:33] regarding that well we only have so much

[1:08:36] money and

[1:08:37] you have two police officers on duty at

[1:08:39] any given time

[1:08:41] in this town that's what we have

[1:08:45] and they have to fight in scratch for

[1:08:48] every nickel and dime that they get i

[1:08:50] understand that their

[1:08:51] request for sixty two thousand dollars

[1:08:53] was it correct me if i'm wrong

[1:08:55] it was for a car another cruiser and

[1:08:58] some repairs or something

[1:08:59] i understand that was shot down at the

[1:09:01] last time maybe forty five thousand was

[1:09:03] approved yeah but yeah

[1:09:05] a full total wasn't it was recommended

[1:09:06] over 45 rather than 62 000 right

[1:09:09] and it's still 17 shy of where they

[1:09:11] wanted to be and

[1:09:12] probably needed to be when you when you

[1:09:17] look at the individual cruisers and

[1:09:19] things like that

[1:09:20] those things take a beating they're all local the brakes are getting

[1:09:24] shot every uh

[1:09:25] every so often those those are city

[1:09:28] miles those are hard miles those

[1:09:30] vehicles are being driven

[1:09:32] so they need more maintenance and and

[1:09:35] they need more money for it

[1:09:37] so where does that come from well you

[1:09:39] ask about a quota system and a quota

[1:09:41] system the problem is

[1:09:42] it becomes almost unethical it really

[1:09:45] does it it draws out the the

[1:09:48] worst instincts in people and one of the

[1:09:51] things that we don't want is to go from

[1:09:54] what we have now which is relative

[1:09:56] freedom to you know this

[1:09:58] overarching police state where if you

[1:10:00] drive 21 miles an hour in a 20 mile an

[1:10:02] hour zone you're going to get pulled

[1:10:03] over

[1:10:04] nobody wants that either so there's got

[1:10:07] to be some balance

[1:10:08] um you know periodic enforcement should

[1:10:11] be enough to kind of deter most speeders but a

[1:10:15] quota system

[1:10:17] it just it just reeks of a police state

[1:10:19] and i wouldn't tolerate that for a

[1:10:21] minute

[1:10:22] i think it's all to your point

[1:10:24] selectment hall i think it's and i'm not

[1:10:26] giving my opinion on

[1:10:27] court although i do agree with a lot of

[1:10:28] the points you made and i think

[1:10:31] probably a lot of people will agree with

[1:10:32] them but i just think that

[1:10:35] the reason why people don't and this has

[1:10:36] been said at meetings before the reason

[1:10:38] why people are less likely to speak

[1:10:40] speed in towns like berkeley is because

[1:10:42] they have a reputation

[1:10:44] of being strong on and i'm not talking

[1:10:47] about speeding you know

[1:10:48] 21 and a 20 i mean you know going 30 and

[1:10:51] a 20 you'll probably get pulled over

[1:10:52] at any point they come out of nowhere

[1:10:55] and i think that

[1:10:56] it's gonna take some time but if we can

[1:10:59] dedicate

[1:11:00] so if we can afford i should be clear if

[1:11:02] we can afford to dedicate more resources

[1:11:04] to traffic enforcement we should because

[1:11:06] that will go a long way to

[1:11:07] having that in my opinion reputation

[1:11:10] that if you speed in this town

[1:11:12] you're going to get pulled over and i

[1:11:14] think that is

[1:11:16] when a word gets out because we still

[1:11:17] live in in a small town where

[1:11:19] word gets around in that way then you

[1:11:22] might see

[1:11:22] less of that speeding just a thought and

[1:11:25] to

[1:11:26] if i may um speed grants

[1:11:29] they can apply for it and get extra

[1:11:31] money to put on an officer from the

[1:11:33] state

[1:11:34] in something called the speed grant i

[1:11:36] don't know exactly how it works

[1:11:38] but if if you really wanted that extra

[1:11:41] enforcement that's that's all they would

[1:11:42] really have to do is

[1:11:44] apply for a speech man but i i don't

[1:11:47] know exactly

[1:11:49] how any of that would work i'm sure we

[1:11:50] can look into it about that

[1:11:52] in the hallway a few minutes ago you'd

[1:11:53] be the expert on that

[1:11:55] that's a good idea we can definitely

[1:11:57] discuss it with you here for the

[1:11:58] executive sessions

[1:12:00] that's what we have yeah i also in

[1:12:03] trouble

[1:12:04] a little bit with the quotas too because

[1:12:07] towards the end of the month if you're

[1:12:08] doing a monthly uh then all of a sudden

[1:12:11] they're gonna be stopping

[1:12:12] speeders but you could speak beginning

[1:12:13] the month you're not getting stopped so

[1:12:17] but it's it's it's an idea so some will

[1:12:26] main street so i call main street

[1:12:30] i live there around let's say midnight

[1:12:33] to four o'clock the

[1:12:35] i might be up in the middle of the night

[1:12:37] and all of a sudden

[1:12:39] i mean these people are probably going

[1:12:40] 100 miles an hour i'm serious

[1:12:42] and if you had the offices in those nice

[1:12:44] specific spots right near the bridge and

[1:12:46] all that

[1:12:46] they would make a mint and another thing

[1:12:48] one more thing is that there's a

[1:12:50] relatively new uh 45 mile an hour sign

[1:12:53] going up towards williams street okay

[1:12:56] fine

[1:12:57] there was one on the same on the other

[1:12:59] side going this way

[1:13:00] towards 138 i said 35 miles an hour and

[1:13:03] that mysteriously disappeared

[1:13:05] i don't know what happened it'll be

[1:13:07] wonderful if we could get that one back

[1:13:09] because they're going this way the same

[1:13:10] way they think it's 45.

[1:13:13] was it i thought it was i thought it was

[1:13:15] william street 35

[1:13:17] i thought it was 30 going into uh 138

[1:13:19] right when you go up 138 of course up

[1:13:21] the hill that's 30 right right we all

[1:13:22] know that

[1:13:23] and then at a certain point and my house

[1:13:25] becomes

[1:13:26] is not weird is this true it's 45 but

[1:13:28] then

[1:13:29] on the other side going that way towards

[1:13:31] the um the library it's 35 then it goes

[1:13:33] to 30 at the library

[1:13:35] so that sign across the street from my

[1:13:36] sign in front of my house

[1:13:38] is missing for 35 and i'd love to have

[1:13:40] that gentleman take care of that

[1:13:42] tomorrow please

[1:13:43] yeah because it's i didn't realize it

[1:13:44] was

[1:13:48] and that 50 mile per hour sign on um

[1:13:52] yes william street had disappeared does

[1:13:54] anyone remember for like months and then

[1:13:55] it

[1:13:56] came back so it appeared

[1:14:03] and if you live on main street and i

[1:14:05] don't uh you live on main street

[1:14:07] it's not a very good road so imagine

[1:14:09] once it's paved

[1:14:10] oh what it's going to be like we should

[1:14:12] address it before yes

[1:14:14] it's like it's like starships flying by

[1:14:16] my house i'm telling you to the audience

[1:14:17] i'm like it's that fast i'm just like

[1:14:20] yeah okay tomorrow right well i'm

[1:14:22] impressed that you're up at midnight

[1:14:24] because i haven't seen midnight in such

[1:14:25] a long time

[1:14:31] are there any other questions

[1:14:35] um yep

[1:14:38] i shouldn't say questions in the

[1:14:39] comments regarding the zoom feeds and

[1:14:42] everything like that

[1:14:43] so i i don't think it's much of a secret

[1:14:45] that you know we

[1:14:46] um want to see lenny up there and

[1:14:49] everything and all his glory

[1:14:51] not that we don't want to see you guys

[1:14:52] either i get it

[1:14:54] no offense we don't want to see

[1:14:55] ourselves either let's see

[1:14:58] um at the last meeting you guys had on

[1:15:01] zoom

[1:15:01] we couldn't see when we couldn't hear

[1:15:04] him

[1:15:04] um i i could hear brett just fine up

[1:15:07] here ken just fine

[1:15:08] but i couldn't

[1:15:18] yes we did we just think we rectify that

[1:15:22] we think we did the other day we had uh

[1:15:24] we did a sample

[1:15:25] zoom it was me and it was uh robert

[1:15:28] woods and it was a third i forget who

[1:15:29] the third person was

[1:15:32] jonathan gale at home on zoom and they

[1:15:34] did different

[1:15:35] things with the volume and stuff like

[1:15:36] that and we were able it was a little

[1:15:37] bit of an echo

[1:15:39] but with exception that we could hear

[1:15:41] people in different spots

[1:15:42] can you can you do like a microphone

[1:15:45] between

[1:15:46] each of you we used to have one what

[1:15:48] happened last time

[1:15:49] we have one microphone and something

[1:16:04] so yeah there's a few things and number

[1:16:06] one with regards to

[1:16:08] the microphone that was used at the i'm

[1:16:11] at the last

[1:16:11] meeting uh uh that mic is set up

[1:16:15] i'm i'm actually to the new technology

[1:16:19] on top of the tv

[1:16:21] um in the last four days we've been

[1:16:24] working a lot on this issue because we

[1:16:26] understand that it's a major issue

[1:16:29] and i like what we have found is i'm a

[1:16:32] few things number one

[1:16:34] uh they actually they actually have

[1:16:37] additional microphones which we can

[1:16:39] order

[1:16:40] uh it's like oh so each member of the

[1:16:42] board of selectmen is able to have their

[1:16:44] own dedicated mic to get their audio um

[1:16:49] oh yeah like so like we're already on

[1:16:50] top of that but i thought we already

[1:16:53] we had these microphones that i didn't

[1:16:56] mean to cut you off but

[1:16:57] i was just under the impression they one

[1:16:59] sat here

[1:17:00] and then he had one and then excuse me

[1:17:03] selectman hall had one as well

[1:17:05] so what happened to those because we

[1:17:07] already had a solution one over there was there was two there were at

[1:17:11] least two yeah

[1:17:12] i thought there were three yeah so the

[1:17:14] original i feel like proper right now

[1:17:16] solving this so the original auxiliary

[1:17:18] microphones they don't actually

[1:17:20] interface

[1:17:21] with uh with the new

[1:17:25] or the new platform oh you know that we

[1:17:27] bought the show

[1:17:31] however in the past however in the past

[1:17:33] day and a half based on the testing that

[1:17:35] we did i think yesterday we also

[1:17:38] i like have found out i believe what is

[1:17:40] actually the root of the issue

[1:17:43] i like in the root of the issue i i uh

[1:17:46] like actually goes

[1:17:48] oh you know oh like it goes into like a

[1:17:50] comcast issue

[1:17:53] uh i like it uh like actually with a

[1:17:56] bandwidth of a wireless

[1:18:00] i like over the zoom oh you know like it

[1:18:04] basically exhausts itself like in causes

[1:18:06] way more feedback

[1:18:10] oh you know than necessary and that's

[1:18:11] why when we do the individual test

[1:18:14] everything works

[1:18:16] absolutely perfect but then when

[1:18:18] everyone's logged on

[1:18:20] uh oh you through comcast everything

[1:18:23] basically

[1:18:23] overloads our bandwidth so like in

[1:18:27] talking

[1:18:28] with uh and talking

[1:18:30] [Music]

[1:18:31] with our it administrator he has already

[1:18:34] set up a way for the fiber that

[1:18:37] like is in town hall all right to cross

[1:18:40] over the complex and into old town hall

[1:18:42] so we can set up directly to that fiber

[1:18:45] because i noticed it slows down and then it speeds up and then everybody

[1:18:49] sounds like alvin the chipmunks

[1:18:51] oh yes we plug in now to the fiber

[1:18:54] rather than logging on oh you know like

[1:18:58] oh oh you know like oh like how cute

[1:19:01] actually through comcast wireless we

[1:19:03] should knock one would be good and

[1:19:04] that's what we're gonna

[1:19:07] i like actually planned to do because

[1:19:09] was there a timetable

[1:19:10] that that could possibly possibly be

[1:19:12] done

[1:19:14] um i believe the fiber is already there

[1:19:16] and we just

[1:19:18] oh i can we just have to make sure we're

[1:19:19] plugging into it just from what i am

[1:19:21] just utilizing

[1:19:22] exactly um we had a call the other day

[1:19:26] um during the day and um

[1:19:29] i was i couldn't come to old town hall

[1:19:31] and i had to do the meeting over zoom

[1:19:33] everybody else was at old town hall

[1:19:35] um and i could hear everyone it was a

[1:19:38] little tough with the audience because

[1:19:40] if you're not at a microphone it just it

[1:19:42] sounds a little bit echoey

[1:19:44] but um to address your point about not

[1:19:47] being able to see selectmen hall i think

[1:19:49] that's because

[1:19:50] we sit at a straight desk and you can

[1:19:52] see

[1:19:53] obviously my big head and you can see

[1:19:54] ken but he

[1:19:56] gets um you can't see you because we're

[1:19:58] all sitting in a straight line so maybe

[1:20:00] for the next meeting we could just

[1:20:02] slightly move the table

[1:20:04] not a lot just like a little bit this

[1:20:05] way so that we're sitting

[1:20:07] like this and not like this and then you

[1:20:09] would be able to see everyone

[1:20:11] just the thought because the camera is

[1:20:13] like oh the camera is right there they

[1:20:14] say

[1:20:15] would be right here on the wall tv and

[1:20:17] the camera's above it

[1:20:18] so it's going to get this is why brett

[1:20:20] actually asked for this spot

[1:20:23] for us

[1:20:27] i'm playing musical chairs

[1:20:42] [Laughter]

[1:20:44] yes i don't like soon to be

[1:20:46] if i could be honest i don't like zoom i

[1:20:48] prefer this quite frankly

[1:20:50] uh but while we have zoom you have to

[1:20:53] deal with it

[1:20:54] i'm sorry interrupt you no no i just let

[1:20:56] the help

[1:20:58] i had requested the second microphone i

[1:21:01] understand there is an interface problem

[1:21:04] i also wonder if um

[1:21:08] a booster to the internet

[1:21:11] at the old town hall would

[1:21:15] help strengthen the signal

[1:21:19] do you know what might also help is a

[1:21:21] stern call to

[1:21:22] that our governmental affairs rep at

[1:21:25] comcast i forget his name i will get

[1:21:27] that contact

[1:21:28] information and let him know that we're

[1:21:31] having difficulty streaming our lives

[1:21:33] so this isn't like a resident calling

[1:21:35] who wants to watch more no this is

[1:21:36] important this is you know

[1:21:37] yep i would do that i'll be strong and

[1:21:40] let them know because maybe he's not

[1:21:41] aware

[1:21:42] that our our bandwidth is not is not

[1:21:45] sufficient to have a public meeting

[1:21:47] it doesn't make any sense there's no

[1:21:49] reason so um i believe his name is mike

[1:21:51] i will get that and we can call him

[1:21:53] okay thank you good point is there any

[1:21:56] more

[1:21:56] uh public uh rafa developing um a couple

[1:22:00] of days ago

[1:22:00] the uh published an article about

[1:22:04] the possibility of diamond reasoning

[1:22:08] what is your word yes i i brought it up

[1:22:11] at the uh

[1:22:12] the last meeting last uh last week we

[1:22:14] had it was a proclamation for

[1:22:16] great uh gay pride month and i brought

[1:22:19] up that i'm thinking of i'm seriously

[1:22:20] thinking of bringing it

[1:22:22] uh before the board of second to vote on

[1:22:23] it will be a public hearing

[1:22:25] it will probably not be in a little room

[1:22:26] like this possibly at the school one of

[1:22:29] the schools

[1:22:30] and people will have input on it and

[1:22:31] they can for or against

[1:22:34] uh so just from uh so you know what my

[1:22:37] position is

[1:22:38] uh i'm not talking about putting a gay

[1:22:39] pride flag on a flagpole out there which

[1:22:41] has the

[1:22:42] american flag and the pow mia flag i

[1:22:45] would uh prefer not

[1:22:46] a separate flagpole either but if you

[1:22:48] walk into the building to the

[1:22:50] uh where the door is to the right

[1:22:51] there's a bench and then there's a wall

[1:22:53] and i would ask you know i would support

[1:22:56] putting a gay pride flag in june uh on

[1:23:00] that uh

[1:23:00] the building there so i haven't decided

[1:23:03] with

[1:23:04] i've talked to our town administrator

[1:23:05] with thinking about the logistics of

[1:23:07] having the public hearing

[1:23:09] i will then bring it back to the board

[1:23:10] to decide whether or not this is the way

[1:23:12] we want to proceed as well as

[1:23:14] the date and all that kind of stuff in

[1:23:16] the place and then uh he'll be the

[1:23:18] public will

[1:23:19] be made aware of them excuse me

[1:23:22] it may not be displayed this month it's

[1:23:25] not going to be

[1:23:25] no it's not going to be this week no

[1:23:27] it's it's not going to be

[1:23:28] displayed this month if i'm part of the

[1:23:31] human rights

[1:23:32] commission i'm the liaison person for

[1:23:34] the voter selectmen we discussed this

[1:23:35] maybe in february or march

[1:23:37] i didn't think we should do it this year

[1:23:39] this quickly there needs to be

[1:23:41] conversations

[1:23:42] and uh so that's why um i've asked the

[1:23:44] board that we

[1:23:45] i presented to the board that we're

[1:23:46] going to have a public hearing so that

[1:23:48] people can come

[1:23:49] and express their position uh but it's definitely not going to come up

[1:23:54] definitely won't be on

[1:23:56] we won't have time to have it here

[1:23:59] like when it's going to stop yeah well

[1:24:02] hopefully it stops when we actually have

[1:24:04] the vote but i hear what you're saying

[1:24:06] i see the same stuff on on facebook so

[1:24:09] uh just so you know it will not be this

[1:24:12] month

[1:24:13] uh i will present it within the next

[1:24:14] couple of months we'll have a

[1:24:17] hearing on it and people can voice

[1:24:20] for or against and then the board will

[1:24:22] uh i feel strongly that the board

[1:24:25] should be able to make that decision

[1:24:26] that we're elected by

[1:24:28] not necessarily by some of you but we're

[1:24:31] elected by the the residents of town

[1:24:33] and we should be able to have the

[1:24:35] courage to make a

[1:24:36] decision on that mr white so i listened

[1:24:39] in

[1:24:39] on the human rights committee and

[1:24:42] i recall you saying we shouldn't go

[1:24:45] forward with this because of the

[1:24:47] animosity that it causes and i think if

[1:24:50] we're gonna

[1:24:51] run up to a vote we're just gonna we're

[1:24:54] a divided country right now

[1:24:56] we don't need any more division and we

[1:24:59] have our

[1:25:00] stars and stripes and you know our flag

[1:25:03] which is according to our constitution

[1:25:07] recognizing everybody whatever religion

[1:25:11] whatever race whatever color whatever

[1:25:13] creed

[1:25:14] and why would we go with

[1:25:23] something that is going to further cause

[1:25:25] division

[1:25:26] and finger pointing and um

[1:25:29] name calling and you know

[1:25:33] we've been fine with it as we are

[1:25:36] and maybe what we need to do is start

[1:25:38] honoring what our

[1:25:40] founding fathers said that flag means

[1:25:42] and it does represent

[1:25:44] everybody my major in college

[1:25:47] was history and that's not what the

[1:25:48] final four that flag did not represent

[1:25:51] all of americans it represented whites

[1:25:55] protestants and landowners that's what

[1:25:58] that's who it represented

[1:26:00] it didn't represent the slaves it is

[1:26:02] true

[1:26:04] it didn't represent slaves and right now

[1:26:07] the lgbtq

[1:26:09] community is being discriminated against

[1:26:12] i think you can't prove that there's far

[1:26:15] more acceptance

[1:26:17] now absolutely than there

[1:26:20] has ever been i think we've made huge

[1:26:22] strides

[1:26:23] both on people of color um

[1:26:27] lgbtq um

[1:26:30] this is far it's far better than it's

[1:26:32] ever been

[1:26:33] and this seems to be a rocking shoe to just cause

[1:26:40] division and i think you were right when

[1:26:43] you said that

[1:26:44] at the human rights committee meeting

[1:26:47] that

[1:26:47] going forward with this is probably more

[1:26:49] detrimental than positive

[1:26:51] i think what i said i don't have an

[1:26:53] exact quote but at that time i didn't

[1:26:55] think it was appropriate to

[1:26:57] but we're going to have that public

[1:26:58] hearing we're going to have that

[1:26:59] discussion

[1:27:00] people can express whatever their

[1:27:02] opinions are on this i think we can

[1:27:03] avoid the

[1:27:04] divisiveness i i would hope that that

[1:27:06] doesn't divide the time because

[1:27:08] you know small town will be like

[1:27:12] but it's also divided those that support

[1:27:14] putting the flag up so

[1:27:15] it's uh it's left on health

[1:27:19] i've said it over and over again

[1:27:23] i totally think it is unfair

[1:27:27] to spotlight and to put lbgtq

[1:27:32] in the in the crosshairs this isn't

[1:27:36] about

[1:27:37] them it's about all groups

[1:27:40] in this community it's about

[1:27:44] african-americans it's about the native

[1:27:47] americans

[1:27:49] why aren't we coming up if we're going

[1:27:52] to come up

[1:27:52] with an all-inclusive policy

[1:27:56] that if written and written well

[1:27:59] would include lbgtq so this discussion

[1:28:03] isn't

[1:28:03] about them it's about all groups

[1:28:08] what is going to be accepted what isn't

[1:28:11] going to be

[1:28:12] accepted i i think it's

[1:28:17] it has divided the town but it has put

[1:28:20] the gay community in an

[1:28:24] unfavorable situation

[1:28:27] that the spotlight is on them

[1:28:30] in a negative way i haven't lived in

[1:28:33] this town for over 30 years

[1:28:36] and i've seen the discrimination

[1:28:39] and the vandalism and the out and out

[1:28:41] destruction

[1:28:43] and the driving out of native americans

[1:28:45] from this very

[1:28:46] from the that building

[1:28:50] from their pow-wow

[1:28:53] services out there on that track

[1:28:56] which had nothing to do to the

[1:28:58] desecration

[1:28:59] of their burial ground right behind my

[1:29:01] house

[1:29:04] right if we want to talk about

[1:29:08] disrespect there is a lot

[1:29:11] more documented discrimination

[1:29:15] against the native americans in this

[1:29:16] town than anything

[1:29:19] that i've heard with lbgtq in this town

[1:29:25] and to be honest with you

[1:29:29] an all-inclusive policy brings a lot

[1:29:32] more support

[1:29:36] because and i get really uncomfortable

[1:29:39] because it's spotlighting lgbtq

[1:29:42] they're a small group but there is

[1:29:45] strength

[1:29:46] and there is wisdom with all of the

[1:29:48] stakeholders coming together and having

[1:29:50] input

[1:29:51] in an all-inclusive policy

[1:29:55] that is written in such a way that it

[1:29:57] includes all the shareholders

[1:29:59] so we're not talking about lgbtq we're

[1:30:02] talking about policy

[1:30:03] it is encompassing them and other groups

[1:30:08] my frustration they did it in time and

[1:30:10] they did it very well

[1:30:12] so and they're willing to help us if we

[1:30:15] wanted to go there

[1:30:19] well i've stated my position yep so

[1:30:23] we were talking about division and the

[1:30:24] statements you had made

[1:30:26] mr are very divisive um

[1:30:30] you know my father was a world war ii

[1:30:32] veteran he stood up against hitler

[1:30:34] that old generation did under that flag

[1:30:40] and all three of us did the same thing

[1:30:42] absolutely

[1:30:44] there are guys in this room yours truly

[1:30:46] included who put on that uniform and

[1:30:48] swore that oath

[1:30:49] and it hasn't expired and that oath

[1:30:52] wasn't too

[1:30:53] quite protestant i'm not a protestant

[1:30:55] you know

[1:30:58] it's the american flag is inclusive of

[1:31:01] everyone

[1:31:02] did we have a rough start absolutely i

[1:31:05] was a history major myself

[1:31:07] one of the benefits i had in my

[1:31:09] education was learning logic

[1:31:11] from jesuits jesuits are brilliant

[1:31:15] at logic and

[1:31:18] the the if that argument the slippery

[1:31:20] slope is an absolutely valid

[1:31:22] argument that okay

[1:31:26] this month we're going to have the gay

[1:31:29] pride flag

[1:31:30] next month what's to stop some lunatic

[1:31:33] from demand and he wants the confederate

[1:31:34] flag out there

[1:31:36] the month after that why not a swastika

[1:31:38] or the hammer and sickle or the most

[1:31:40] murderous regime in history the chinese

[1:31:42] are you comparing

[1:31:51] you have one flag and that one flag is

[1:31:54] the red white and blue

[1:31:55] it's flying out there now that's the

[1:31:58] inclusive flag

[1:31:59] not all of these other flags what's to

[1:32:02] stop us from flying

[1:32:03] just any flag a godston flag there's

[1:32:06] hundreds out there

[1:32:07] we've got one we've got more important

[1:32:09] things to talk about right

[1:32:10] you talked about speeding you talked

[1:32:12] about the library you talked about some

[1:32:14] really important things and i was with

[1:32:15] you on a lot of that stuff

[1:32:17] but when you start going off in that

[1:32:18] direction man i can't support you i

[1:32:20] can't be

[1:32:21] there so that's where we're at

[1:32:25] i think it's an important issue you

[1:32:26] talked about was it your grandfather in

[1:32:28] world war ii no my father your father

[1:32:31] you remember the service that the blacks

[1:32:33] were segregated they weren't allowed to

[1:32:35] be with whites wasn't right

[1:32:37] absolutely wasn't right and it was

[1:32:38] president truman who corrected corrected

[1:32:40] that but

[1:32:41] there are times in our history uh when

[1:32:43] people have been

[1:32:44] discriminated against and we have

[1:32:45] technology i know that some people don't think that

[1:32:48] our kids or the students should be

[1:32:49] taught this stuff but this is our

[1:32:50] history

[1:32:51] good or bad we're always absolutely

[1:32:54] always

[1:32:54] most of the time we're moving forward

[1:32:56] we're correcting the mistakes that we

[1:32:58] made in the past the way we treated

[1:32:59] uh native americans where we we treated

[1:33:01] blacks in america

[1:33:03] how about the way fbr treated the

[1:33:04] japanese you rounded them up and put

[1:33:05] them in concert absolutely

[1:33:07] that was that was disgusting you and i

[1:33:08] weren't around but that's that's history that's what i'm talking

[1:33:12] about so it's it's that kind of division

[1:33:13] we need to get past that crap

[1:33:15] and just red white and blue that's our

[1:33:17] flag and the discussion

[1:33:18] and and let's get on to the more

[1:33:20] important things the actual business

[1:33:22] of governing our tiny little charming

[1:33:24] town mayberry

[1:33:29] there is also full of speeders

[1:33:37] there is also another concern that i

[1:33:42] have

[1:33:43] of putting any flag before a policy

[1:33:48] and that is lawsuits

[1:33:52] not just the risk and the expense

[1:33:55] of paying a judgment if we discriminate

[1:33:58] against the group

[1:33:59] because i can think of a couple

[1:34:00] controversial groups

[1:34:02] that are national groups that have

[1:34:04] lawyers on retainer

[1:34:06] that have no problem suing it down

[1:34:09] but if you take a look at our budget

[1:34:12] on a town budget with 2022

[1:34:17] there is no money budgeted for

[1:34:20] attorney's fees

[1:34:21] for lawsuits

[1:34:24] and i'm going to have a very difficult

[1:34:27] time

[1:34:28] supporting paying a lawyer to

[1:34:31] defend against those lawsuits

[1:34:35] because people that

[1:34:38] want to go this direction you've been so

[1:34:41] on

[1:34:42] you will be sued the town of dayton

[1:34:45] will not maybe suit will be sued

[1:34:49] so we better stop budgeting legal fees

[1:34:52] for that

[1:34:54] mayor a solid policy you might prevent

[1:34:57] that

[1:34:58] all right dr c yes so just a couple

[1:35:01] things so we actually never

[1:35:03] fund that settlements i believe it's a

[1:35:05] settlements um

[1:35:07] line we have a town council line and the

[1:35:09] reason is we

[1:35:10] as a board have felt it's more fair to

[1:35:12] bring those items via special article to

[1:35:15] the town meeting

[1:35:17] and have the voters decide if that's

[1:35:18] what we should be using the monies

[1:35:20] which is probably where that power

[1:35:22] should be i also want to say

[1:35:24] um i'm not aware and everybody knows how

[1:35:27] i feel about this issue

[1:35:28] i really don't have anything more to add

[1:35:30] about it um but that i'm not aware of

[1:35:32] any town in the commonwealth that is

[1:35:34] currently flying

[1:35:35] an lgbtq pride flag that has been sued

[1:35:40] they have a part boston has a policy

[1:35:42] bridgewater doesn't

[1:35:46] is there any other yeah just the fact

[1:35:49] that this conversation keeps on

[1:35:56] coming up

[1:35:57] repeatedly i didn't bring it up tonight

[1:35:59] but no i don't hear what you're saying

[1:36:01] we're talking about it uh people are

[1:36:03] concerned about it

[1:36:05] uh is a lack of focus so you did mention

[1:36:08] that you were elected to make decisions

[1:36:11] true but for town business

[1:36:15] and this topic is personal politics

[1:36:20] so it's a misuse of the power that the

[1:36:23] public

[1:36:24] has provided you and it's a waste of

[1:36:28] resources for the town

[1:36:31] so we're wasting time resources

[1:36:35] money talking about issues

[1:36:38] related to personal politics it's actually shameful that we've been

[1:36:43] talking about this for months

[1:36:45] and you've changed your mind you know

[1:36:47] you you've also

[1:36:49] flip-flopped your opinion on this for

[1:36:51] some reason which i'm not clear

[1:36:53] well some some of us wouldn't call it

[1:36:55] flip-flopping some of us

[1:36:57] i i would hate to think that my opinions

[1:36:59] when i was 10 years old it's the same

[1:37:01] opinions i have now and i grow i read i'm educated

[1:37:06] so i'm willing to change my opinions and

[1:37:08] i wasn't shy about it i didn't go on

[1:37:09] facebook and just type something up this

[1:37:10] is my new opinion

[1:37:12] i presented it at a public hearing and

[1:37:14] i'm

[1:37:15] discussing it now and we'll have another

[1:37:16] public hearing to discuss this whole

[1:37:18] issue that the residents of this town

[1:37:20] can come in and

[1:37:22] ask any questions say whatever

[1:37:24] statements they wish to say

[1:37:26] so i don't consider it uh flip-flopping

[1:37:29] i did feel strongly at that time

[1:37:31] that i shouldn't be brought up and i

[1:37:33] wanted to get back by this

[1:37:35] gay pride month but i think it's an

[1:37:37] issue that we can resolve one way or the

[1:37:38] other that we should resolve as a town

[1:37:45] any other comments questions i just

[1:37:47] wanted to thank everyone for coming out

[1:37:50] and letting us know how you feel i

[1:37:51] prefer this thing soon so

[1:37:53] yeah nice to hear everybody's voice

[1:37:55] right yes and see your faces

[1:38:02] so if there is no other further public

[1:38:05] input

[1:38:06] i'll again ask for that motion uh

[1:38:10] entertaining yes okay uh mr chairman i

[1:38:13] make a motion that we enter into

[1:38:15] executive session under massachusetts

[1:38:17] general laws chapter 30a section 21a

[1:38:20] number three to discuss the strategy

[1:38:23] with respect to collective bargaining or

[1:38:24] litigation if an open meeting may have a

[1:38:26] detrimental effect on the bargaining

[1:38:28] or litigating position of the public

[1:38:30] body and the chair so declares

[1:38:32] negotiations with dike and police

[1:38:34] officers mass

[1:38:35] cop 306. a second

[1:38:38] and i so declare we will not be

[1:38:41] returning

[1:38:42] back to a public meeting

[1:38:45] i want to thank everybody for for coming

[1:38:46] here we're meeting next week next

[1:38:48] wednesday

[1:38:49] in over there we can hold 100 people so

[1:38:51] we can hold

[1:38:52] have more people come if they wish uh so

[1:38:56] i'll ask for a vote all those in favor

[1:38:57] say aye

[1:39:00] roll call dr c hi

[1:39:03] and ken pacheco is also an eye thank you

[1:39:05] very much thank you

Board of Selectmen Special Meeting: June 16, 2021

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