[0:14] Yeah, I'm getting requests. >> All right. I would like to call to order

[0:18] the town of East Joy Planning Commission for the month of um August, September,

[0:25] sorry. Um

[0:30] August 2nd, I'm sorry, September 2nd. >> Let's do that

[0:34] » for the month of September. Mhm. >> Um,

[0:40] everyone is uh

[0:44] is uh sorry. >> You all right?

[0:51] » Everyone is is present except for um

[0:59] Jerry. Jerry >> and Smith

[1:03] » and Ben Smith.

[1:08] All right. Sorry. [clears throat]

[1:15] So we we operate on a uh uh

[1:24] single

[1:27] sorry >> can we pause for a second?

[1:31] » Yeah. Can we just please record >> I can't stop the stream.

[1:37] » Are you okay? Want me to take over? >> No, I'm good.

[1:40] » Okay. haven't felt great. Anyway, all right.

[1:45] Um so we we operate on a single meeting

[1:50] format and what we'll do is we'll have the

[1:56] applicant come up tell us what they're you know what they're looking for and

[2:02] then we will um

[2:09] you know we'll >> talk amongst commissioners

[2:13] » we'll deliberate amongst ourselves Y

[2:16] » my apologies. >> No, you're you're good. So, we'll we'll

[2:18] deliberate amongst ourselves. So, you the applicant will come up,

[2:23] » plead what you wish to have the variance for, and then we will deliberate amongst

[2:29] ourselves, ask some questions to the participants. And at that point in time,

[2:34] we'll ask for we'll have some conversations amongst ourselves as a

[2:38] board. And then we'll ask for anybody that is in favor of the proposal to

[2:42] speak. and then we'll ask for anybody that is opposed of the proposal to

[2:46] speak. And at that point in time, you'll have an opportunity to have a rebuttal

[2:51] before we have our final discussions and discussion. Uh typically what happens in

[2:57] these meetings is if we don't have anything of concern, we could possibly

[3:02] move to a vote at this meeting. But we do have the right to move forward to the

[3:09] next meeting if there are some concerns um presented tonight that we need to

[3:13] address. Okay. So, I'd like to have the spokesperson please come up and uh

[3:21] » Well, hold on. The first first item on the agenda is to review the um minutes

[3:30] from last month. Anybody have any issues with the

[3:36] minutes from last month? >> I'll make a motion to approve and I'll

[3:39] second that. >> Motion to approve. Second. All those in

[3:43] favor? >> I

[3:44] » I >> opposed.

[3:46] Motion carries. Next item on the agenda is a variance.

[3:52] Shorland W178

[3:56] Lake Road Maguano parcel pet PPP PPT 0000003

[4:08] got one >> you please.

[4:11] » Yes, please. >> Hello guys. Um

[4:17] my name is Lance Johnson. Uh my company is 9 Square Design and I'm representing

[4:21] Kyle Worm tonight on his project out at uh W1785 Lake Road. Um Kyle sends his

[4:28] apologies. He wishes he could be here. He is on business in Nevada, so I'm

[4:32] representing him by myself. Um so I guess I'll explain how this kind of

[4:36] started. I don't want to get too longwinded, but we went into the zoning

[4:40] um office for the county and um I had kind of a discovery meeting with Darren

[4:45] and um we realized pretty quickly that we were within the deck is within the 75

[4:49] ft of the back um the the lake line or the shoreline. So, um I had to come up

[4:55] with a solution that where we could possibly keep building and move on on

[5:00] the project and treat the deck. Um I guess we decided to treat it as a

[5:04] separate project so we could start building. So, I separated the two

[5:08] projects. We got the permit on the house and we are underway for the construction

[5:11] for the um the renovation of the main home right now. And we're just um kind

[5:15] of hoping and waiting on the variance. What we're asking for is about two more

[5:19] feet of deck toward the lake in the back. Right now, it's about a 5ft 10

[5:24] cantalvered deck that's in disrepair. Um doesn't meet code. I mean, the can lever

[5:31] alone wouldn't meet modern codes, but the deck the railing is too uh short and

[5:35] uh it's just in this repair. So, it would be we'd be replacing it either

[5:38] way. Um and in this process, when I talked to Kyle, he was he wanted to do

[5:44] uh the neighbor to the east, I don't know if we have that picture I sent, but

[5:47] they have a twotory deck with a full covered roof that goes at the back.

[5:50] That's what he originally had wanted, and that's the plan we brought down to

[5:53] Darren to submit. And um we've had to uh ditch that plan. But when I t when I sat

[5:59] Kyle down, we had a meeting. I got the heart of what he really wanted. I mean,

[6:04] he wanted the big large decks, but really what he wanted was a nice a

[6:08] bigger space to walk out onto. Um, a better deck, you know, better

[6:15] condition and a cover. Um, a little more space and some cover. The sun, I guess,

[6:21] just drenches them back there and it's almost unusable in some times of the

[6:24] year, the summer months, obviously, when you want to use it the most. So, his

[6:28] real concerns were um I forget um a place to go out from his master bedroom

[6:32] to have a coffee in the morning or something small. So, the second story

[6:35] deck that was proposed to be 8x 28 on the second story was way too big. So, we

[6:41] essentially brought that into the master bedroom as a covered porch under the

[6:44] main um you can see uh just behind and above the right there that's a small

[6:50] 5x12 kind of a breakfast nook uh deck area, coffee area that satisfied that

[6:55] requirement. So, we've essentially reduced it to one story with a cover and

[6:59] hopefully we can gain that 2'2 in toward the lake. I think we're with we're at 65

[7:04] 63 ft right now. Um, and I guess if we don't get the variance, what we would

[7:10] we'd be able to rebuild the deck as it is in the exact configuration with no

[7:13] improvements, no cover, no larger size. Um, and I'd have to post it because we

[7:18] can't can we cannot leave it can levered the way it is. So, something has to be

[7:21] done. So, it's going to be tore off either way. Um, so that's kind of the

[7:24] history and um, this is my first meeting for variance, so I apologize. So I

[7:29] appreciate your guidance and um, guidance with me on this, but um, I

[7:33] guess that's the long and short of what we're trying to trying to achieve.

[7:38] And the lot itself is very I don't know if you've seen the plot. It's very one

[7:42] at one spot he's 175 ft from the lake and then it hooks in and he's within

[7:48] that's where he's 65 63 feet away. So, you know, 75 65 to 75% of the back lot

[7:55] almost shoots straight out. It's just that weird shoreline that kind of makes

[7:58] it difficult and um to achieve what we're trying to achieve. It's that short

[8:02] distance that that curve. And as far as the neighbors, um the one to the east

[8:07] has that twotory deck. They're out front of us by 16 ft. So, that's not going to

[8:11] their views, nothing's going to hurt them. the the neighbors to the west who

[8:15] have been more in communication with theirs around Elmore. They um verbally I

[8:19] don't believe have had any issues with the deck that we're proposing and

[8:23] they're they're the they're the opposite. They're further back. They're

[8:26] quite a ways to the north. So, it isn't going to change much for them either.

[8:30] And there's a large tree uh and that will be there forever. But, um I think

[8:33] overall for the neighbors, it's not going to have too much of a

[8:37] negative effect at all. and then watershed and items like that. We're

[8:41] within all other um code compliance with the deck. It's just simply this one ask

[8:46] of the the waterfront issue.

[8:51] » I'm going to see how that scoop happens. >> And just to clarify right now with the

[8:57] canal lever and everything, you're within that 75 ft setback.

[9:01] » We are 63 feet right now to the corner of the deck. We are yes within. Yes.

[9:05] » So you're non-conforming as >> correct. probably grandfather in

[9:07] whatever you would >> asking to rebuild it slightly bigger by

[9:11] two feet >> correct

[9:13] » and no longer can lever you're going to have post

[9:15] » yep posted three posts yep beam and then um hopefully like I say the cover um

[9:20] just for for shade probably with a steel roof I believe is what we're going to do

[9:24] there >> and so the existing condition now just

[9:28] so we can clarify the picture is the deck comes off call it the first

[9:35] floor, but it's can levered and you're looking for a roof structure. Even

[9:41] though you're adding a little breakfast nook off the top,

[9:44] » you're looking you're not going to have a walk out to the second story. This is

[9:48] just going to be a canlevered covered porch.

[9:51] » And essentially this existing can levered deck, you're going to add two

[9:56] more feet, >> correct

[9:57] » to that. And the existing should be in the packet somewhere, I believe, if you

[10:00] want to see what the the drawing of the existing is. I thought it was in there,

[10:03] but if not, I can bring it up on my phone.

[10:05] » Oh, more more of the civils is what I'm kind of I'm looking at. I'm a I'm a

[10:10] civil guy, so I I like to take a >> maybe and maybe the existing deck is

[10:16] actually lined right here. So, I can see that. Okay.

[10:19] » You can see it's the existing, but it doesn't show much detail here.

[10:22] » Sure. Okay.

[10:32] Great. Any other questions? So, we have it.

[10:38] » You know, to me, you're essentially asking to rebuild what's there. It is

[10:44] non-conforming. Um, if there was any opposition from the neighbors, you know,

[10:49] with a a view obstruction or something, I could see there being an issue, but,

[10:54] you know, that's just how I see it. That's, you know, for discussion. And

[10:59] I'm looking at the the site plan, the the civil too here and the adjacent

[11:05] property to the east is actually set forward that has the deck that you've

[11:10] referenced. >> Um and then again the civil drawing

[11:14] shows the uh property to the west that clearly would not have any sighteline

[11:21] impact especially for an extra 2 feet from what is existing now. Um, I'm also

[11:26] noting that there's almost a 30 foot elevation change between

[11:34] lake level and ground level at the walk out basement.

[11:39] So, there's there's a significant elevation change there that it can helps

[11:43] with the sightelines. And if I could add to that's I'm glad you went up. Usable

[11:47] space is difficult on this lot for the back. So, this is part of the usable

[11:50] space. He's trying to get just a little bit, you know, cuz that's important.

[11:53] most of it is is and they're going to do some retaining wall work next year, I

[11:57] believe, and and do some changes. But that is difficult to deal with with just

[12:00] entertainment and casual space. That's what he's trying to gain a little bit

[12:04] more that way. But yeah, and certainly those conversations, you know, for

[12:08] another time as far as disturbance within that 75 ft and structures. But

[12:13] but yeah, I mean I you know talking amongst us here I um it's

[12:21] it seems reasonable for uh what what's requested here tonight. Um but certainly

[12:28] just for structural safety purposes of existing build building codes that you'd

[12:33] have to go to post construction whether it's covered or not.

[12:37] » Yeah. And and I think too he wants to bring it up kind of with there are

[12:40] adding on we're tearing out the second floor and adding a little bit of space

[12:45] but reconfiguring it and he wants to kind of bring it up as well with the

[12:48] kind of the um the overall achieve kind of the overall essence of the the

[12:53] improvement. You know what I mean? So that's one thing we want to do with the

[12:56] deck is bring it up just a little bit. We're not asking for a ton I don't think

[12:58] but um I don't know the variance world and how it you know it's my first time

[13:03] in it but um yeah it's just that we're remodeling it all. um and just wants to

[13:08] bring it up a little bit to be in keeping with the remodel that we're

[13:11] doing. >> Are you extending the second story

[13:14] outward toward the lake as well? >> Nope. It'll be within the foundation.

[13:18] » So the the existing structure will be within the foundation of 100%.

[13:22] » Okay. All right. Julie, you have anything else?

[13:26] » No. >> Okay. Um

[13:30] amongst us, do we have any >> no sense?

[13:33] » Questions to All right. Thank you. Anybody in the audience like to speak in

[13:40] favor of proposal? Anyone like to speak against proposal?

[13:47] Then I would take a >> Okay.

[13:52] » Motion. >> Um well based on the information

[13:54] presented tonight, um I think this is a reasonable

[13:59] proposal. Um we always have to take into consideration the setback laws that are

[14:05] established. Um certainly the residents that are here and can we have any

[14:12] hardship presented to them by approving something tonight. Um but based on

[14:18] elevation change, based on the adjacent uh properties and the configuration of

[14:28] you know the parcel as a whole and and certainly you can see the the

[14:32] challenging nature of uh the elevation drop and the narrow nature of the of the

[14:39] property itself. Um I think this is a reasonable request.

[14:45] Do we have a motion? >> I will offer the motion tonight that we

[14:50] approve uh the conditional use our conditional approval of the building as

[14:56] presented for parcel number PPT 00003.

[15:04] » Uh we have a motion. Do we have a second?

[15:06] » I'll second. >> All those in favor?

[15:09] » I I opposed.

[15:12] » Motion carries.

[15:20] Thank you. >> Thank you.

[15:22] » You bet. >> Thank you.

[15:25] » Thank you. >> If there's no other public comment or

[15:31] other business amongst commissioners, I would take

[15:35] » a motion to adjurnn. >> Second.

[15:37] » Motion to adjurnn and second. All those in favor?

[15:40] » I oppos. >> We're journ. Thank you.

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