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[music]
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All right. 6:32 call the meeting to
order.
[0:18]
Any modifications or changes to the
agenda?
[0:22]
I don't have any.
>> Any members of the public that wish to
[0:27]
comment that aren't on the agenda?
Um,
[0:31]
I have been curious about I live on
senior housing and I've seen some
[0:38]
mirrors in corners where people can't
see coming out of streets and I wondered
[0:42]
when they've been considered near the
old phone building or whatever that's
[0:47]
right there at the end of school street
in Maine. And now the school's going to
[0:52]
begin and I said, "Oh, car's going to
park there." It's like kind of hard to
[0:55]
see out sometimes. That's my for the
night.
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» It's definitely worth considering
>> something to make it a little bit easier
[1:02]
to see pulling out of there.
>> It's pulling off from school onto Maine.
[1:06]
» Onto Maine. Yep. Turn left or right
>> and to be able to see around
[1:11]
» when there's cars in front of the
bumblebee.
[1:13]
» The bumblebees got traffic and parking
cars going through and park.
[1:17]
» I don't come off that street very often.
So
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» I avoid doing that.
>> I'll have to truck through. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:26]
Thank you. That's a good idea. I thought
this similar about um Pleasant and Depot
[1:32]
like the Bates building because again
it's kind of hard to see around.
[1:36]
» There's one there's one tree in the
yard. That does make it a very short
[1:39]
growing apple tree.
>> Yeah.
[1:44]
» Okay.
>> All right. Next up, review and approve
[1:48]
minutes for July 28, 2026.
So, everybody had a chance to look those
[1:54]
over.
[2:01]
» I looked them over and I approve them.
>> All right.
[2:05]
» The motion to approve.
>> Motion to approve has been made. Is
[2:08]
there a second?
>> Second.
[2:11]
» Second by Heather. Any further
discussion?
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» All those in favor? I
>> I opposed. So moved.
[2:22]
Next up, review and approve bids for the
2014 electric service truck.
[2:28]
Um, we have two bids.
See them there.
[2:43]
Looks Yeah, we had two bids. One for
156671
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and one for $2,669.
[2:53]
» Sounds to me like we probably should
take the higher volume, but
[2:57]
» is that value?
>> I think that's more than enough.
[3:01]
» Okay.
>> Yeah, I think the 2,000 is
[3:05]
» Okay.
Okay.
[3:09]
Need
>> a motion for that. Can we take a motion
[3:11]
to accept the $2,669
bid?
[3:14]
» Make the motion.
>> All second. Moved and seconded. Any
[3:18]
further discussion? All those in favor?
I
[3:21]
» I opposed. So no.
[clears throat] Next up, review bid
[3:27]
estimates for grant vegetation
management estimated 8,900 ft.
[3:33]
So, we have um we put the bid opening up
at the end of last Friday. We had four
[3:38]
bids in um all fairly similar, I think.
Um
[3:46]
they actually all came in lower than I
expected. We're going to add some more
[3:49]
footage to this. Um
but you have the four bids there. Um
[3:59]
I can speak to any of them I think if
you need me to.
[4:03]
Uh on a limb tree service parent you
haven't
[4:08]
I think we ever used them but we'd asked
and he was not at first he seemed like
[4:14]
he wasn't comfortable working on live
power. Um but you know we put it out
[4:21]
this would be and
Allan talked to him and didn't seem to
[4:24]
be a problem. Um Jordan we use cold
hollow cold holo something they call it.
[4:31]
Um
you know we use him yearly for about a
[4:37]
mile tree trimming and vegetation
management. Yeah.
[4:41]
» Um Larvy we've never used. Um
I don't really know too much about their
[4:49]
I guess tree trimming abilities. Um if
they've ever done it around live wire. I
[4:54]
don't know that. Um
Eustace uh we just hired them this past
[5:00]
winter. They did a um a few miles on um
>> Pearly Road.
[5:08]
» Um they did a good job. They worked
pretty well. Work right through the
[5:13]
cold.
Um, I put the start date next week or
[5:17]
the week after and they have at the end
of the year. Um, and again, we're just
[5:22]
trying to we have a grid grant meeting
tomorrow. Um,
[5:27]
this is all through the grid grant, so
we should be able to increase these
[5:30]
miles. Um, we'll probably balance it out
because we have to do so many miles per
[5:34]
year for vegetation management
with the 8,900 ft. We'll probably be
[5:38]
pretty close this year to what we need
to be. We can always move that to next
[5:43]
year. We don't have to spend that money
by the end of this year by any means.
[5:46]
So, um,
[5:51]
so that's that's where it's at. Um,
they're all pretty low. I've never used
[5:57]
this, so that one's new to me. They are
um um they do more cable and fiber. They
[6:05]
run a lot of cable and fiber for gas
home companies. do a lot of construction
[6:08]
for those types of companies, not power.
>> Seen the trucks around.
[6:14]
» Yeah. Last I mean, they just started
their tree trimming. They hired a guy. I
[6:18]
don't um it seemed like he definitely
knew what he was talking about and he's
[6:22]
done. He's that's what he did his prior
life. So, they kind of started this new
[6:27]
division as far as tree trimming was
concerned before palies of home
[6:31]
companies. Um like I said, we hired them
to try them out, but they did a good
[6:36]
job.
[6:40]
And is this going to be like this will
be
[6:44]
on roads, off road? The areas we have
right now are stone um stone house road.
[6:52]
» Mhm. That's a main line that feeds all
the way up through it kind of
[6:57]
» post and all that.
>> Yeah. It feeds a big territory. We have
[7:00]
a big phase that goes up there. So yeah,
basically from the carpenter farm all
[7:04]
the way up to Boston Post. There's some
sections in there we're not doing, but a
[7:07]
majority of that. Uh the corner of
Boston Post and Nicholls Road down about
[7:14]
1,600 ft. We're going to have them do
that. And then we're going to have them
[7:19]
do um there's a section on um
on U Joy Road that's very thick. We're
[7:26]
going to have him do that for starters.
Then we may add on this
[7:31]
basic fit. Those are three areas we're
going to hit. I mean, there's more areas
[7:35]
we could definitely do. All of Nichols
Road pretty much needs to be hit, but
[7:39]
again,
to try to hit the best bang for your
[7:43]
buck, homes,
>> right,
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» I think I all the [snorts] guys, we all
agreed kind of Stonehouse starting there
[7:51]
and working our way out.
>> So, were you happy with uh Jordan St.
[7:55]
Pierre?
>> Uh, yeah, we never I mean, we never had
[8:00]
an issue with his work by any means. Um,
>> and he does some every year.
[8:05]
» He does. Yeah, he does it every year.
And you know, we've called him during
[8:08]
storms and he's stopped what he's doing
and gone and helped no matter what time,
[8:14]
night, or whatever.
>> Has all the right insuranceances.
[8:16]
» Yeah. Yeah. Yes. No. Yeah. Anybody would
have to send in their
[8:20]
» COI in there.
>> I feel we we should keep it local. Yep.
[8:26]
» I'm not for keeping it local, Jordan.
>> Yeah.
[8:34]
Somebody's got to move on it.
>> So, would the um motion be to include
[8:40]
additional
footage up until a certain amount or
[8:45]
would we just be approving this budget
number?
[8:48]
» Um
we could probably approve this one and
[8:52]
then yeah, in the next meeting I'll
probably look to add more if we need to
[8:55]
or if I need to come back I will. Okay.
Um, would they have to bid again?
[9:01]
» I don't think so, cuz once we once we
have somebody working, then you can add
[9:06]
on.
>> Yeah,
[9:09]
» that's kind of why I was wondering if
you wanted to give like another boost
[9:12]
because then you can make a
>> an adjustment without coming back to us.
[9:16]
» I mean, if you want to add that in
there, you can add in, you know,
[9:19]
accepting this bid and then additional
footage if needed or as needed.
[9:26]
» Yeah. Yeah. What do we have a cap?
>> What's our budget?
[9:30]
» Yeah,
>> we got to find out tomorrow. It's It's
[9:33]
We have some money to spend. It's
probably like 150,000.
[9:36]
» Okay. So, we're well under
>> Well under.
[9:39]
» Yeah.
>> So,
[9:42]
what would be a reasonable amount to
just
[9:45]
do? How many feet do you think you want
to add?
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» Um, I can go grab
>> half an idea.
[9:51]
» I would do Nicholls Road, which I think
was 6,500.
[9:55]
So
>> probably if we say no more than double
[9:59]
» Yep.
>> the bid amount, we should be covered.
[10:02]
» 60,000,
>> right? Basically make it an even number.
[10:05]
» Yeah. 60,000. And then if it ends up
being something different, then come to
[10:08]
us
>> and we can come back now.
[10:10]
» Yeah. Um so I'll make the motion to
accept the bid from Jordan St. Pierre uh
[10:14]
capping it with adjustments at uh
$60,000.
[10:19]
» Motion has been made. Is there a second?
I'll second.
[10:23]
» All right. Any further discussion?
All those in favor? I
[10:28]
» I opposed.
So moved.
[10:32]
» I wasn't worried I didn't come back
again. The only timeline we have with
[10:35]
the grid grant, it's not really the grid
grant per se. It's the vegetation
[10:39]
manager. I want to kind know how much we
can get done, right?
[10:41]
» Our crew hours they're done. We don't
need to do anymore. If we can get all
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this in here for this year, that's only
time. I can always come back if
[10:50]
through the grant ask for more.
[10:56]
I I missed something on modifications
and changes to agenda.
[11:01]
Unless it's on a different page. Never
mind. This page I'm good. Okay.
[11:08]
All right. So, next up, wastewater water
allocation request for 102 street.
[11:19]
Um just I think they're just adding a
the unit on the at 102. Um, waste water
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doesn't see any issues.
[11:37]
Well, it's good with me if it's good
with them.
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So, we'll take a motion to approve the
wastewater water allocation request for
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102 streets.
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Yes.
>> You want to move?
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» All right. Leonard moved. Is there a
second?
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» I'll second.
>> Excuse me. Moved and seconded. Is there
[12:04]
any further discussion? All those in
favor? I
[12:08]
» I opposed. So move.
Next up, review and make a motion on
[12:15]
water allocation findings.
So,
[12:20]
take a minute to read through that if
you haven't already. That first page.
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» Yeah.
>> And Caroline said she also speak to
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» Yeah.
[12:43]
Any
[12:58]
questions so far, ma'am?
>> No, I'm
[13:03]
very busy.
>> Taking it all in.
[13:06]
» What it means?
It's not my job.
[13:11]
» We'd be glad to have you.
[13:25]
So it sounds looks like from years ago
some money should have been moved that
[13:28]
was never removed
that we're gathering.
[13:32]
» Yeah. So it's it's kind of more a
technical, you know, we need approval to
[13:39]
um so we got advice from um KBS and the
auditors on how to handle this where it
[13:46]
should have move been moved all those
years and when it's moved is supposed to
[13:50]
be used for these purposes. So it kind
of was used for these purposes through
[13:54]
the years. It's just the technical
moving
[13:58]
and getting the approval to move back
and forth didn't happen. So, we're
[14:03]
getting it now to document that um Lor's
findings are correct and that we have
[14:11]
the approval to do what we should have
done. Did that make sense? Yes. Okay,
[14:16]
great. Thank you.
[14:44]
We definitely have plenty of projects,
emergency repairs.
[14:47]
» Yes.
>> So, she was very thorough. Lori was very
[14:51]
thorough in pulling out all the, you
know, the past documents showing, you
[14:56]
know, those expenses
um
[15:00]
qualified.
[15:13]
It looks like we have the documentation
to back this up.
[15:18]
So, Makes sense.
[17:06]
Oh, shoot.
[17:52]
» [snorts]
[18:18]
» Well, I guess it couldn't
is what it is. It's It's in the past.
[18:22]
So, I just we need to know what motion
to make to clear it all up.
[18:27]
» Looks like Lori kind of laid it out for
us.
[18:32]
» Um
make a retroactive motion acknowledging
[18:36]
that the water allocation fees collected
during that period were expended on
[18:39]
qualifying water department capital
maintenance emergency or expansion
[18:43]
related costs in accordance with the
intent of the ordinance.
[18:50]
That sounds good to me if somebody wants
to move on it.
[18:54]
» I will make that retroactive motion.
>> All right, motion's on the table. Is
[19:00]
there a second?
I'll second.
[19:03]
Move and seconded. Is there any further
discussion?
[19:08]
Those in favor? I
>> I opposed.
[19:11]
So moved.
Next up, joint meeting date 10:5 or
[19:17]
10:19. Thoughts on agenda items?
Policing, trash ordinance, bridge 50.
[19:23]
» Um, [snorts] we kind of went over this
once already. Uh, we had to postpone it.
[19:26]
Um,
so I don't know if I mean that's what we
[19:30]
had on the agenda last time for
thoughts. I didn't know if anybody can't
[19:34]
come up with anything different or new.
If not, then I'll close that back
[19:39]
to Joe. And they're obviously both
Mondays. That fifth and
[19:45]
» is that their regular meeting night?
>> I think so. Yeah, the fifth would work
[19:50]
better for me. I think I might be gone
on the 19th,
[19:54]
but then [snorts] again, I'm have to be
here.
[19:58]
» Think I make both days, but the 19th is
preferable for me.
[20:04]
» At least one half a dozen the other for
me. I don't care.
[20:08]
» How about you?
You're retired. You're doing nothing.
[20:12]
[laughter]
You won't be mowing along.
[20:16]
It's
>> just Yeah, that's
[20:17]
» You never know.
>> Wait a minute. Isn't that
[20:28]
» I guess if the fifth's better for Jason,
I can do either. You can
[20:32]
» I can make it work. I just early morning
the next day. That's fine.
[20:37]
So, I guess we'll shoot for the fifth.
>> I will confirm what days I will be on.
[20:43]
» We'll shoot for it. We got a couple
months, we can
[20:46]
» if we can adjust back for a little for
sure.
[20:48]
» Those were the like the the um select
board said those two dates worked.
[20:53]
» That's what Billy Joe Yeah. throughout.
>> And we heard uh Dave said one way or the
[20:58]
other.
>> I haven't heard anything either from
[21:00]
Dave.
>> Okay. Okay.
[21:03]
» Yeah. I didn't ask him a date on that.
[21:08]
I guess if we think of agenda items as
we get closer
[21:12]
fill in the agenda.
>> Yep. No, I can. Yeah, we can definitely
[21:18]
» All right. Uh number nine, Fire
Department's annual coin drop request.
[21:24]
» Uh same day as Harvest Fest. Um I guess
they do it every year. Um,
[21:30]
they bring all their phones and yellow
jackets and stuff, high viz stuff.
[21:38]
» Uh, it's 20 20th
>> 19
[21:41]
» 19th
>> Saturday
[21:43]
» 19th of September.
>> September.
[21:47]
» From 9 to 2.
>> From 9 to 2. Thank you.
[21:53]
» Make a motion to approve that. It's kind
of good event every year.
[21:58]
» All right.
>> Second.
[21:59]
» Motion has been made and second. Any
further discussion?
[22:02]
» What are they used to?
>> It goes to their nonprofit.
[22:11]
» They have a I believe a 501c3
set up.
[22:16]
[snorts]
>> Thank you.
[22:18]
» Yep.
>> Uh all those in favor? I
[22:22]
» I
>> opposed.
[22:24]
So moved
>> on that. I don't I mean bring up other
[22:30]
business too. Um
I don't know if the village wants to do
[22:34]
something done open houses. I don't know
if we can pull something together before
[22:38]
then but couple as two 250th
>> anniversary if we're going to do
[22:46]
something. I don't know. I I don't know
if it would be village or if it'd be
[22:51]
I just think if that would be a time
that would be the day or that night
[22:54]
afterwards, but I don't know
what that look like.
[23:00]
» I have no idea. I just I've been asked a
couple times just throw it out there.
[23:03]
Maybe I want to brainstorm quickly and
think
[23:06]
» much time.
>> Yeah. The standard park len parks
[23:10]
decorated and that's a good idea.
>> Yep. I mean, we could decorate a little
[23:16]
bit more. I We usually put corn stalks
out and stuff or harvest fat. You know,
[23:20]
it's usually hay bales and stuff over
there, but
[23:24]
um
but if you wanted to get more more flags
[23:28]
or more
>> so that would happen.
[23:30]
» It's like a 250
if like feel like it's a Fourth of July
[23:35]
celebration is kind of what
>> that's kind of where I was at with it,
[23:38]
» but we're months past that.
>> Well, I guess that's the [snorts]
[23:43]
remark. Yeah, I think majority of people
did it on July 4th or villages or towns
[23:47]
or whatever. We
>> but supposedly there's been others like
[23:50]
off. We don't normally the other towns
around us do a lot and really pull a lot
[23:54]
of resources and people if we tried to
we didn't we could have maybe done
[23:58]
something but
[24:07]
» so everywhere
[24:15]
» um
[24:19]
something to think Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, maybe he's just adding some more.
[24:23]
We buy a few more flags, put in the park
for that.
[24:25]
» Maybe just some straight American flags
cuz I don't know that we get customized
[24:28]
flags in that amount of time.
>> The other ones came pretty quick. I
[24:32]
don't know if they're sold out. I don't
know that.
[24:34]
» I don't know either.
>> So,
[24:38]
I'm just trying to think of the events
that they normally have at Harvest Fest
[24:42]
besides the vendors.
Um,
[24:48]
just trying to remember what they do
where something that we could add to it
[24:54]
would benefit and and add
>> I don't think they have it other than
[24:58]
the music. I don't think they have like
other events. I mean, it's just it's a
[25:02]
market
>> cuz they don't even do the wine thing
[25:04]
anymore. That's how it started, right? I
don't think they do that anymore cuz
[25:07]
[snorts] they haven't given me a permit
I think last year or two. Yeah, I think
[25:11]
just they just had some vendors selling
some wine at one point.
[25:15]
» Yes.
>> Yeah.
[25:16]
» But the library has children's
activities, I think, too.
[25:19]
» I do believe so. Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[25:21]
» But how about a birthday cake for the
country? Maybe something on the park at
[25:25]
that.
>> That's a great idea.
[25:26]
» A doable. It'll be decorated. I mean,
take a picture. It's
[25:31]
» maybe a local baker if you do.
>> I'm not in charge.
[25:38]
» But that's a good idea. Yeah. Maybe the
village has a booth or um the or whoever
[25:44]
you could have the info booth
>> or something and people could come for a
[25:47]
birthday cake.
>> Yeah, that's great.
[25:52]
» Yeah.
>> You want me looking for flags or
[25:57]
» you can check the delivery time?
>> I think Jerry should give ice cream with
[26:01]
the cake. [laughter]
[26:07]
» They do the dairy fast. Yeah.
>> Your job to find a freezer now,
[26:12]
» huh? It's
>> your job to find a freezer now.
[26:15]
» I have a big stand up freezer I'm not
using.
[26:17]
» I think they brought up a whole truck
last time.
[26:20]
» They just parked it over there full of
ice cream with a reaper.
[26:24]
» Okay.
[26:29]
» Some good some good ideas.
>> All right.
[26:34]
Think Allen's on deck for this next one.
Kendall will discuss hydro options.
[26:39]
» Um, yeah, Alan's here to help
advise where we're at.
[26:46]
» This one,
>> there's there's some in the pack and
[26:49]
then that one just came today. So,
>> um,
[26:51]
» that goes with that, though.
>> It goes with it. So, basically, we have
[26:56]
three options. I'm going to put the side
tonight, but we're going to decide kind
[26:59]
of quickly. And then you want more
informative where we're at and where
[27:03]
some Dawn numbers were at. So, I don't
even know here. Alan, do you have this
[27:07]
one? I don't know if you saw this. This
came in like at 3:00. I saw it earlier.
[27:12]
Um,
so Alan probably I'll I'll tee it up and
[27:17]
Allan can probably be a little more
technical if he wants and if you have
[27:21]
questions, but basically we have three
options we're looking at. So, the
[27:25]
Kendall went down um a couple months
ago. We did have uh Fairbanks come and
[27:32]
they pulled it out. They brought it back
to their shop and then took it apart and
[27:37]
brought part of it to a different shop.
Um I believe we're about 18,000
[27:45]
into that.
>> 17.
[27:47]
» Yeah. So 17 to 18,000 just to have it
pulled and looked at. So basically we
[27:53]
have three options. We we did do a
measurement and looked at a new unit
[28:00]
and those came back around 800,000.
So, they're not giving those away.
[28:06]
Um, how old is this one?
>> 45
[28:14]
years.
>> But the problem with this is this they
[28:19]
don't make them anymore. So, you're
getting married.
[28:21]
» That's what I was wondering. uh one
individual tire that we need to replace
[28:28]
was 65
65.
[28:36]
So
[28:40]
um but so so the three options is the
new one. The second option is what I the
[28:45]
actual the Fairbanks one
that came in about 100,000. That's to
[28:50]
repair it back to its current state the
way it was. And again, now I'll be more
[28:57]
technical current state the way it was
when it was working.
[29:00]
» When it was working, not working.
[laughter]
[29:05]
Um,
you want to speak to the blades and the
[29:09]
and what it what that means by current
state or
[29:13]
» the state it was before it was broken.
>> The way this operates now, you got three
[29:18]
hydraulic plates down here. You got to
raise the lower
[29:21]
line.
>> So when
[29:26]
we can actually lower the plates to
adjust to
[29:31]
so we're not totally shutting it down.
So we can still have the flow more over
[29:34]
the dam.
So that's
[29:39]
reason why we like the other option was
what we're getting to. They they're
[29:43]
suggesting put the blades in a fixed
position
[29:47]
» and run the
>> water level
[29:52]
» water level with the head gates. And
that's not the way that's really set up,
[29:58]
» right? cuz that stops completely if we
sit.
[30:05]
» Yeah, gates are designed
>> to adjust the bypass flow, but they're
[30:11]
gates are just made to protect if
needed, right?
[30:15]
» It's the blades hydraulics that were
more designed.
[30:18]
» So that could add extra stress on the
gates,
[30:21]
» right? So you have to go up there and
adjust it. So say
[30:26]
that particular Gary Dar has got like a
CS week. So it lowers El time.
[30:33]
So say somebody's not there to babysit
me 24/7
[30:37]
to accommodate for the river elevation
and you go home at night, come back in.
[30:44]
So there's kind of a gray area there.
Not not really thoroughly convinced that
[30:50]
that's the right way to go with that.
>> Mhm.
[30:53]
» Cuz they say they can do it, but cuz
you're going to be starting it up
[30:59]
with it full open, which is not normal
for it.
[31:04]
And when you get your adjusting your
hertz to bring it online, you're going
[31:09]
to be more load
stress to the electrical end of things
[31:14]
for it.
So that's kind of like
[31:20]
it'll work, but it's not ideal.
>> The only positive that is it be the
[31:25]
quick fix couple months
always.
[31:31]
» Okay, it be quick fixing and
>> that's for 100.
[31:35]
» No,
they give us price on that. I thought
[31:38]
they had
>> I didn't see it in here.
[31:44]
They did.
[31:47]
For some reason, I thought it was like
20,000 or something like that.
[31:51]
» Put it Put it back together and put it
back in fix.
[31:56]
» Yeah, cuz they're not really doing
anything. Basically, just take leave the
[31:59]
parts off they took off and just put our
blade back on and throw them back in the
[32:03]
hole.
[32:07]
and no real way of
adjusting it.
[32:13]
And that's one of the main factors that
lights down the
[32:21]
not so that got loose when it dropped
the shaft so they got water into the
[32:27]
oil.
So it was compromised
[32:31]
between this
uh
[32:36]
$1,000 manifold manifold.
>> I had to struggle with that.
[32:42]
» Just a turbine with a blade. I don't
know. I can't see how stuff is that
[32:46]
much. But
so with the if we do the $100,000
[32:52]
repair,
you think we get 10 years out of it? You
[32:55]
think we'll get a year out of it? like
hard telling not knowing,
[32:59]
» right? I mean,
>> is the rest of the unit in real bad
[33:03]
shape
>> the way it huh?
[33:05]
» Is the rest of the unit in horrible
shape?
[33:07]
» Yeah, it's not too too bad. You know, it
says some in the water and stuff. It
[33:12]
gets debris in here. You know, blades
get damaged, so on and so forth.
[33:17]
» What do you mean the new one's going to
get that?
[33:19]
» Well,
it's kind of a different setup.
[33:24]
So, I know it's a lot more money. I
don't know if you want to explore this,
[33:27]
but
if you take a look inside that turbine,
[33:31]
there's a flat blade that's 6t diameter,
right? That's a hole that's about 20 ft
[33:37]
deep.
So, they're suggesting put the generator
[33:41]
head on top
with a shaft down there. No hydraulics
[33:48]
up there, but you still can adjust it up
top
[33:54]
» like a winch or something or
>> Yeah, you can run it with, you know, it
[34:00]
would be an auto. You can adjust it
right up top. You know what I'm saying?
[34:04]
» But all hydraulics would be on the top
versus
[34:08]
one shaft. It just all be shaft and the
blades, right?
[34:13]
It's a lot more money for that. But I
feel that you can do what you want. Put
[34:20]
this back assembly and budgeted for
something a little bit more efficient. I
[34:26]
mean, it was this one company that went
through that suggested that. I kind of
[34:30]
like the idea, but it's a lot of money
for what it produces,
[34:36]
» right?
>> You got to look at that.
[34:38]
» Would we see any sort of increase in
production
[34:41]
» with a new unit? be a little bit more
efficient.
[34:44]
» See a little increase.
>> Again, we got to watch that end of
[34:47]
things cuz we aren't licensed to operate
so much.
[34:50]
» Well, again, I mean, we're in our FK
license. We notify that it's down. We
[34:56]
notify FK that it's down and that,
you know, we don't know what we put back
[35:01]
in there. So, we don't know what we're
going to do. So we may be we're trying
[35:05]
to adjust our going after the license
not knowing as opposed to finishing the
[35:13]
license which wasn't going to happen
anyway and then amending asking for
[35:17]
amendment come back and say well now
this unit can produce 400 AW
[35:22]
300. Um so we we have leeway with FK.
It's not like it's a done deal.
[35:33]
Again, we don't have to decide that
tonight. I'm just trying to keep in the
[35:35]
loop and we're trying to unless I unless
you're like, "No, let's throw the other
[35:40]
the quick fix in. Let's get it back in
the hole." Other than that, I mean,
[35:46]
through it.
>> I would.
[35:48]
» Any idea how much we're losing per day
it's down?
[35:51]
» We did that calculation.
>> Um,
[35:57]
» I can go
>> I can't go get that. You say you
[36:00]
overload the system if we're the way
that they want to operate it like that.
[36:04]
Like I would hate to cause issues to a
station because we're putting too much
[36:10]
power in or
>> to me there's a lot of ger that they're
[36:13]
saying that it can be done that way,
>> right?
[36:17]
» I'm not terribly
that's the right way to go.
[36:21]
» I mean there's
>> their engineers are saying it it would
[36:25]
work that way. This is another uh
[snorts] outfit that uh
[36:30]
ATS for guys that work on that kind of
stuff that we hire out and fire banks
[36:38]
which actually
works on audio itself
[36:43]
that we hire out when we can't do it.
[36:50]
Um,
>> I mean, if you want to explore that
[36:52]
option more, we can
get a little bit more info out of it. We
[36:57]
just
>> I mean, I would say probably at least
[37:00]
$15,000 a month past couple months,
>> but more in the spring,
[37:06]
» right?
>> You lose a lot almost double.
[37:09]
» Yeah. For the year.
>> Yeah. So, I think Didn't we do wasn't
[37:13]
125 a year?
>> Yeah. average you make, but there's
[37:17]
certain times of the year you make a lot
more and right now it's the low time of
[37:22]
year.
>> Mhm.
[37:24]
» But pretty soon it won't be.
>> So I mean does that come back towards
[37:27]
like I mean
>> yeah the killer too is right now we're
[37:30]
losing tier two racks.
>> So that wasn't including the racks right
[37:35]
cost to us.
>> And what's the time estimate on the back
[37:39]
till the way it was?
>> I don't know that in there. I don't
[37:44]
think you put it in there for
>> repairing it back to the way
[37:48]
» that was.
>> Yeah, I don't think that's all right
[37:53]
cuz we're losing 100,000 or 125 plus a
year. It cost 100,000 to get it fixed if
[37:58]
they can get it in 3 months and you use
it for 2 years. It gives you time to
[38:04]
budge it in. maybe doing a newer
replacement or maybe I know you can't
[38:09]
put money aside for it but
>> they might
[38:12]
» planning ahead.
>> They might allow us now to put reserves.
[38:16]
» Okay.
>> Um when we're going for a rate case they
[38:19]
said that now uh new administration have
>> realized that you really need reserves
[38:26]
to cover emergency.
Yeah.
[38:29]
» So the new administration is going to
allow us to put reserves aside which is
[38:33]
a good thing. Right. Which would help,
you know, like you said, if you get a
[38:38]
couple years out of that and then you
can start budgeting in and maybe
[38:42]
» do a repair of that as well as well.
Does this do anything with the
[38:46]
historical
>> end of it?
[38:49]
» The building the building is historical
part.
[38:51]
» Okay.
[38:56]
» Okay.
>> We can follow up on that question. I
[38:58]
mean, I'm guessing it's
>> I wouldn't think it'd be too far off the
[39:01]
three months that they
I recommended norming the um quick fix.
[39:08]
Sorry.
Uh right. They did say that manifold
[39:14]
which is busted. They got all black. I
can remember them saying that's like
[39:20]
a year
to get that.
[39:22]
» Oh, really?
[39:26]
» Or what's this man going to look like?
Basically, it's a cone shape that just
[39:32]
surrounds the
oil up, so say where the hoses come down
[39:38]
in. You got hoses way up top that you
have to bring the unit down in with from
[39:44]
up top and they go right down to the
bottom of the unit. And that's what
[39:50]
adjust the blade like I said earlier.
So, it's just a basically a manifold.
[39:55]
Yeah, I just I've seen this rotary
manifold. It just seems like that one's
[39:59]
a lot of money.
>> Mhm.
[40:00]
» So, I didn't know if it was gigantic.
>> Well, the one hydraulic line was
[40:05]
» that was what 400.
>> Oh, the the whole assembly.
[40:10]
» Well, remember that we changed
>> in the water?
[40:13]
» Yeah. Three of them. Yeah. It's probably
a bigger deal.
[40:15]
» It's like that one.
>> This some special hydraulic line.
[40:20]
» No, we
just kidding. [laughter]
[40:24]
You're under
[40:28]
that we fixed in the past. There's like
a
[40:32]
» I mean it's got a funky end on it.
>> Yeah. I priced that out brand new and
[40:36]
that was like 12 grand to have that
done.
[40:39]
That was just crazy.
>> Do you think it has something to do with
[40:44]
the the fact that it's in the water and
there's big stipulations and regulations
[40:48]
around that
>> stuff that gets down in here? I mean the
[40:50]
blade got compromised. Something got
down in there. who knows it gets through
[40:54]
the racks.
>> I mean,
[40:57]
» cuz the past couple years we've been
doing routine maintenance on it. We've
[41:00]
been pulling it out, which hadn't been
done when we was pulling it, doing oil
[41:04]
changes and stuff.
[41:08]
» It gets a lot of use.
[41:14]
» This isn't something we need to decide
on.
[41:16]
» No, no, no. We can I mean I can meet
back in the next meeting or next two
[41:20]
meetings to maybe get a time frame.
>> Yeah. on that
[41:23]
» and then we can get you better numbers.
>> Yeah.
[41:26]
» The losing because it does depend on the
month.
[41:28]
» The month.
>> So they did was it 5 years? They gave us
[41:31]
5 year history.
>> Yeah. [snorts]
[41:34]
» Um so they gave us 5 year history of
what that um Kendo unit was producing.
[41:40]
But you got to take in consideration it
was one year why it was almost down the
[41:44]
whole year. Yeah.
>> So, take that year out
[41:47]
» and then say what it is for the last
three
[41:50]
» and that'll give you a good idea.
>> Okay. Um,
[41:58]
yeah. And then well, the 5year 2 is
skewed a bit lower
[42:03]
cuz that doesn't I can't remember was
last July or two Julies ago is when the
[42:08]
tier twos took effect. of those of those
five years, you know, we were getting
[42:12]
paid out a tier two on I think this past
year.
[42:16]
» So that's just extra money that we're
losing now is we're not producing, but
[42:21]
» and averages are pretty okay to try to
figure this out.
[42:26]
» Yeah. [snorts] Okay.
>> So we come back with time frames and um
[42:31]
cost
[42:35]
» lost money.
seems like you might be leaning more
[42:40]
towards a newer unit might remedy some
stuff.
[42:44]
» I think it'll be a better setup for the
situation,
[42:48]
» right?
>> I mean, we constantly are working on
[42:51]
that thing.
>> But also throw out there, I mean, what
[42:56]
we might be able to bundle this. I don't
know. I'm going to ask. Um, they may I
[43:00]
got to find out some more information.
It's kind of late breaking, so that's
[43:04]
why I don't have it at my fingertips. Um
so with the solar project
[43:11]
believe I mentioned all this so with the
solar project the village if it
[43:15]
continues
back and is working with encore kind of
[43:22]
keep it moving forward. Um, and the
village would actually be buying the
[43:27]
project.
And one of the reasons why that would be
[43:30]
is because the bond bank would be the
lender and the bond bank lend to
[43:38]
municipalities. You can't lend to VEPSA.
Um, so that's considered renewable.
[43:44]
Solar project isn't renewable. And
that's what's got their ears perked up
[43:49]
about helping us do this project and
also [clears throat] part of the micro
[43:52]
grid project. concept too.
>> So, um that's kind of all the talks we
[43:58]
got going on right now. So, even though
it's a lot of money, we could tie it
[44:02]
into that too um
in one month sum
[44:08]
cuz I mean as we built the micro grid
concept, the hydros were able to were
[44:13]
part of that.
[44:18]
you're kind of dead in the water without
that hydro because it I mean I don't
[44:22]
know if you can even factored in that
price.
[44:25]
I mean maybe that's a can analytically
or
[44:29]
cuz now we're not able to run the
village at certain times because our
[44:33]
bypass flow CFS
where normally we've been able to. So
[44:41]
but with that candle being out it killed
us.
[44:47]
So we'll do some more homework and get
back to you.
[44:49]
» Very good. Uh number 11 regulators
discuss regulators.
[44:56]
So again we'll key it up and let Alan
get technical. Um we have three
[45:02]
regulators at up at the substation that
we we need to change before next
[45:07]
triggering season. Um, I got I can get
the technical part of it
[45:14]
and part of this also came back. There's
a couple of spec issues that we have
[45:18]
with those regulators. And this came
through our um TND study that we had
[45:23]
completed last year. And this is one of
the things the engineers recommended
[45:26]
kind of as first priority was to get
these regulators changed out. And on top
[45:32]
of that, the power, we've been having
issues during sugaring and we even had
[45:36]
an issue this summer. Um, so basically
they have an odometer on them and let's
[45:42]
say the odometer is supposed to be good
to 100,000. These things have like a
[45:46]
million on them. So they're way past
their lifespan. Um, in uh during the TND
[45:52]
study, the engineer that we worked with
uh recommended or threw out the idea
[46:00]
holding mass has a municipality uh power
light department.
[46:05]
um they have like six or seven
regulators
[46:09]
um that we could use. We could buy from
them. They're 10 grand each. We're
[46:14]
thinking about buying four, having a
spare and buying three. Um there is a
[46:19]
company not too far from them that would
come kind of give them a another
[46:24]
inspection and
uh tuneup type thing. Um and they sent
[46:29]
all the spec sheets and stuff. So that's
kind of one option. So, I guess overall,
[46:34]
yes, we need to get these regulars
changed out. We're presenting these
[46:37]
options. So, that's one option. Second
option, if you look in here, is the TNR.
[46:44]
These are refurbished. They are $17,000
a piece.
[46:50]
Um,
but they come with a a warranty,
[46:54]
threeear warranty. So, if we bought
three of those, we'd be looking at about
[46:58]
51,000.
Um,
[47:03]
and then the last Allen did I think I
have it in here. Uh,
[47:09]
put it in here.
[47:13]
» Yes.
They're about the other 28 grand
[47:19]
25.
[47:22]
» Um,
another option.
[47:28]
Um,
[47:31]
we budgeted 40,000. We can budget to do
the the four.
[47:36]
So,
and Allan's going to get more into it.
[47:41]
Um, if you want more or you can um talk
to Allan, talk to Dave, talk to the guys
[47:47]
actually Sean and you know, they kind of
like the the um TNR ones cuz they have a
[47:53]
three-year warranty.
Um
[47:56]
they're refurbished again. I know
they've been already gone through pretty
[48:00]
thoroughly. Um
[48:04]
and uh my understanding too is you guys
like the controls are the same as what
[48:10]
we have now. So um we would have to hire
BEC to come in and help us swap these
[48:15]
out. Their head end technician to come
in and help us.
[48:19]
Um
and we would be down probably we have to
[48:23]
take the whole village down for what
it'll be 3 4 hours anyway at best.
[48:30]
» Yeah.
So we have to take the whole village
[48:33]
down just swap these things out. I'll be
doing during the day.
[48:38]
Um,
so that's [sighs] but this this I'd like
[48:43]
to decide on and get moving on it cuz
like I said, we got I don't I mean the
[48:47]
ones in at Holden Mass those I can call
that guy. You know, they could be here
[48:52]
probably within a month.
Uh TNR for
[48:56]
» 4 to 6 weeks.
>> Four to six weeks. So I'd like to get
[48:59]
that order in so that we can get those
in here cuz again we want to get this we
[49:04]
like to get it done before December
where it gets too cold. So
[49:06]
» Mhm. Um,
[49:10]
how long were the other ones you study
were those?
[49:13]
» I didn't see a time frame on that one.
I'm guessing they're at least 2 months
[49:18]
probably. Yeah. So,
um, so yeah, we got to kind of make a
[49:23]
decision on this. So,
>> TNRS were mid-range costwise, just over
[49:28]
what we budgeted.
>> Yeah, they're about 12,000 over.
[49:34]
Where would we
pull that from
[49:39]
any?
>> Not sure.
[49:42]
» There's still
as far as finance it.
[49:46]
» Mhm.
>> Um,
[49:50]
can we pull from that? I will see.
[49:55]
» Oh. Um,
>> I think that there's
[50:00]
» We could Yeah, we could. There's I think
there's still a little bit more room
[50:04]
left on that line of credit.
>> Um
[50:07]
» that was kind of an overall line of
credit.
[50:09]
» Yeah, it just says general projects
um electrical general projects.
[50:16]
You can also see uh I did um the first
six months a deep analysis on the
[50:23]
electrical department and even though we
had budgeted over a million dollars as a
[50:29]
loss um for the first 6 months we earned
15,000
[50:33]
um expenses over revenue. But that's
because these guys have been
[50:40]
not buying anything, not doing anything
on the bare minimum. and we are going to
[50:45]
wait to see the rate increase finally
went into effect and we're gonna we were
[50:50]
going to wait to see how that panned out
and then um with Franklin Foods cutting
[50:56]
back how that was going to affect our
revenues. Um but just to let you know
[51:01]
the first 6 months were not as bad as
what was budgeted but just because they
[51:05]
have been really frugal and very very
careful. Mhm.
[51:11]
» Two, we do have in there budgeting was a
$48,000 regulator for this year that
[51:16]
we're it's it's
>> what
[51:20]
» reclocure.
Sorry. Um that is a year out. So it's
[51:26]
not
>> a year.
[51:27]
» Yeah. We're not going to get anyway.
>> Potentially budget that in for next
[51:31]
year.
>> Rebudget for that.
[51:34]
» We'll have to rebudget for that next
year. Yeah.
[51:37]
» Okay.
So you're sliding out there and just
[51:41]
like computer they don't think right
>> knows anymore. So yeah,
[51:46]
» I mean I don't
>> stand by I don't know a lot about this
[51:49]
stuff but I mean familiarity is is a
good thing like if it's something that
[51:54]
they can just up and run without having
to worry about cuz I always like
[51:59]
if something new there's always
potential of breaking it cuz you don't
[52:02]
know or getting injured cuz you don't
know like the extra few thousand would
[52:07]
almost be worth it um in my opinion.
Um
[52:15]
and and their time timeout is
relatively close. You said 2 months 2 to
[52:21]
3 months.
>> Which one was that?
[52:23]
» The TNR
>> TR 4 to 6 weeks.
[52:26]
» Oh, four to 6 weeks. So it would be done
sooner.
[52:31]
» So and we would
>> while the still down
[52:34]
» would be without power for a few hours,
>> right? There's a couple of days where
[52:39]
there's going to be no school in the
next couple months possibly
[52:45]
» schedu
[52:56]
» I do have concerns
>> they used to they used to have generator
[53:00]
I'm not so sure about that
>> so that would be something to make sure
[53:04]
» Oh yeah we would do all
>> you're doing this beforehand letting you
[53:07]
know that Yeah. Right here.
>> The saddest part about that there's like
[53:12]
a neutral position on those.
>> Mhm.
[53:16]
» And you have to have it in that neutral
position before you can kill it. If you
[53:22]
don't,
>> right?
[53:25]
It's just a piece of equipment that you
have to really have to have and work,
[53:31]
» right?
>> Cuz you got to like John was saying
[53:35]
earlier, they got these drag hands on
there. They got a neutral position. They
[53:40]
got 16 steps they call boosting steps
bucking.
[53:46]
» So that one right there was pegging out
and they come back.
[53:50]
» Right. So
>> you said before sugar season because
[53:54]
there's so much up and down 128
circuit.
[54:00]
» Yeah,
>> it caused problems.
[54:03]
» They're all in the same spot.
>> This is all regulars are all right at
[54:08]
the subst. I didn't know if there were
>> multiple ones around.
[54:13]
» There is a few but the substations,
>> right? But these are the ones these are
[54:17]
the ones that were needed which we've
been we have been talking about for a
[54:22]
few months now. So
[54:41]
sounds like probably what the TNR ones
are the ones to go with. Mhm.
[54:47]
And they're the only ones with a
warranty.
[54:51]
The
>> the ones
[54:55]
» No, it was three.
>> Three.
[54:56]
» TR was three.
>> Three. Yeah. Three for TNR of the other
[54:59]
ones.
>> Hold one. I didn't see anything. Did
[55:04]
you?
>> The what?
[55:05]
» Holden.
>> I didn't see that. No, I didn't see one.
[55:08]
» And hold or hold Holden wouldn't. I
mean, they're just we're finding like
[55:11]
you'd buy from somebody. They're Yeah.
So, and
[55:16]
» got you.
>> Yeah.
[55:18]
» I never saw a counter
sent.
[55:27]
» There's the counter count number of
events.
[55:30]
» Yep.
[55:34]
Cuz you got
this like a
[55:41]
So, you got these little pies in there.
So it wears and tears,
[55:45]
» right?
>> So eventually you have to clean out the
[55:48]
oil cuz the carbon and stuff in there.
>> Mhm.
[55:52]
» Yeah.
[55:59]
» And I'm going to say this like I know
what I'm talking about, but it's it's
[56:02]
more with engineer.
Um
[56:08]
and now I'm correct, but but uh 3330s
are what we're getting. Mhm.
[56:13]
» Those are a little bigger than we need.
So that's we have room.
[56:16]
» That will also help.
>> Yeah, we have room to grow,
[56:20]
» right?
>> Which seems to be an every year thing
[56:23]
with maple sugar in. So it's probably
not a bad thing.
[56:26]
» Yeah.
When I first started here, I was like
[56:31]
three mag.
[56:37]
» Is that our highest
>> 4.8?
[56:41]
kind of that time of year
>> that it has been become the highest
[56:46]
» has become okay
>> for load
[56:48]
» for load used to be the summer but now
it's sharing season
[56:53]
» used to be July or something we can see
it
[56:56]
» right
>> four we've only been over five a couple
[56:58]
times
like 51 something like that and these
[57:04]
these are going to help
continue with Yeah, cool. Yeah, that
[57:11]
shut down that circuit.
>> All right.
[57:17]
» Would we need some sort of
um motion for financing additional
[57:24]
rate?
>> I don't think so. No, I said just come
[57:30]
off of the look at our budget season
with the regulator.
[57:35]
» Okay. with the reclusion. You see those
bathrooms?
[57:38]
» What are those Rwords?
>> Those Rwords.
[57:46]
» Yeah, that'll just fall in line with the
budgeting for next year.
[57:51]
» Okay,
we're going to move a year behind as our
[57:56]
goal is to have a reclosure each year.
[58:03]
And again I well as we talk through this
you know there if the whole micro grid
[58:08]
thing comes to fruition there might be
some changes in the head anyway. So
[58:13]
that's why I think I mean the the ten or
the older ones I think are the ones to
[58:16]
go with because they'll suffice for the
near future and then if something's
[58:23]
happening the micro grid. Um
I realize we didn't have our faces up
[58:29]
there.
So,
[58:33]
» so we need to move on buying something.
>> I would. Yeah, we got to get moving
[58:37]
because we got to get it get it.
>> I'm going to get it in.
[58:42]
» So,
make a motion to go with a TNR
[58:48]
at the price stated
>> 51,000 four
[58:53]
» three
>> three of them.
[58:54]
» We do with the hold ones. We're going to
buy four and not have a spare,
[58:57]
» right? We only need three. But we have a
threeear spare. So
[59:03]
» threeear spare basically.
>> Um
[59:10]
I'll make the motion to approve the TNR
to be ordered.
[59:16]
Um
[59:19]
» the three regulators for TNR.
[59:28]
is
>> 17
[59:31]
» $52,881
for 38.81.
[59:38]
» Yep.
>> Okay. So, I make the motion to approve
[59:43]
the purchase of the TNR
uh regulators for $52,881.
[59:51]
» All right. Motion on the table. Is there
a second?
[59:54]
» A second.
>> Been moved and seconded. Any further
[59:57]
discussion?
All those in favor? I
[1:00:01]
» I opposed.
So moved.
[1:00:07]
Thanks for coming, Alan.
>> Thank you.
[1:00:13]
» Stay around.
>> You're welcome. Have a good day.
[1:00:15]
» Have a good night.
>> Uh, next up, final approval of
[1:00:20]
administrative vehicle use policy.
>> So hopefully this is the last
[1:00:25]
copy. Um I sent a copy last meeting and
then new desk that the lawyer. So
[1:00:34]
anything in the blue was what the lawyer
added.
[1:00:39]
Um, so if you want to read through that
agree then
[1:00:52]
I mean he he kind of rewarded a little
bit the taxing thing that David was say
[1:00:57]
» wanted to see. Um,
then rest is kind of just more of like a
[1:01:06]
formalized it a little bit harder.
>> Yeah.
[1:01:30]
I'm glad the lawyer looked it over.
These are good additions.
[1:02:10]
all of
[1:02:16]
the one change the leaving unattended.
[1:02:23]
If you guys go out like if the vehicle
goes out and guys are leaving it like as
[1:02:28]
a warming truck, would that bother that?
Um,
[1:02:35]
» yeah, I believe the keys in the thing,
>> right?
[1:02:37]
» Yeah. I didn't I wasn't a fan of that,
but that's decision.
[1:02:43]
» Like, I understand the reason for that
is so somebody doesn't jump into it, but
[1:02:48]
when these guys are working in the
winter, like I could like they're going
[1:02:52]
back. I mean, I guess it all depends on
what unattended is.
[1:02:55]
» Yeah. I feel like if they're right there
with the vehicle, it's different than
[1:02:58]
leaving it and going into a store or
into the office. So I guess it's kind of
[1:03:03]
as we look at it too then
>> right I think there's discretion our
[1:03:08]
discretion
>> okay
[1:03:11]
» like if the keys are left in it and it
gets taken from McDonald's or something
[1:03:17]
different
>> during the storm
[1:03:19]
» if the keys are in it
>> right during a storm or like if they're
[1:03:22]
working in the park over here and or
>> right
[1:03:26]
» yeah the car's if it's the vehicle's
parked right next to visibly see the
[1:03:31]
expression anyway.
>> It's true.
[1:03:33]
» Okay.
[1:03:38]
» Yeah.
[1:03:44]
Garden
[1:03:48]
put the final stamp on that.
>> If you agree, it's your choice.
[1:03:53]
» I'm okay with it.
>> I am too. Um, I'm happy to make that
[1:03:57]
motion
to approve the administrative vehicle
[1:04:01]
use policy as updated.
>> Motion's on the table. Is there a
[1:04:06]
second?
>> Second.
[1:04:07]
» Any further discussion? All those in
favor? I
[1:04:11]
» I opposed. So move.
[1:04:18]
Now we can have some managers minutes.
[1:04:27]
Um,
[1:04:31]
so financials, we're in
summer calling it hell week. So we're
[1:04:36]
doing we pretty much are in training
every day all day. Um, Lori, Caroline,
[1:04:42]
myself, um, and Psyche's in there a bit,
too. Um,
[1:04:49]
so and we're trying to stumble through
some things. some of this just
[1:04:53]
procedural ethic been doing for 100
years and it's going to look a little
[1:04:57]
different but um but the cut over is the
end of September so we'll be cutting
[1:05:03]
over the financials we've been going to
Harris who's our current financial
[1:05:07]
software and we've been um doing uploads
downloads whatever to
[1:05:13]
NISC um
[1:05:17]
you want to add to any of that or where
we're at or whatever's going on
[1:05:21]
» it's going. Um, we're trying to proof
our books before the cutoff. So, as I
[1:05:28]
said, Lori has named each week. This
week is called week and in two weeks it
[1:05:34]
will be called dark week because we're
going to have a whole week um from
[1:05:38]
Friday afternoon on the 11th through
that whole next week where we cannot
[1:05:43]
enter anything either into the legacy
software program or the new one. M
[1:05:48]
» so a whole week of being totally nothing
can be posted anywhere. So it's going to
[1:05:53]
be kind of a hard week. Um that's called
dark week and then the next I think
[1:05:58]
there's a week after and then we're
going live week. So it's going to be
[1:06:03]
kind of intense during those weeks. But
now into September 11th um we're trying
[1:06:10]
really hard to get everything reconciled
and perfected before we make the move
[1:06:15]
over. Um we are going to be able to
download 20 years of history which is
[1:06:21]
good. So um but it's a lot of proofing
to make sure that everything comes over
[1:06:27]
accurately and um we are doing intensive
training. So during live week we will be
[1:06:35]
doing um lots of proof lots of proof
entering um and then proofing to make
[1:06:40]
sure everything follows in the right GL
and and follows where it should. So,
[1:06:45]
it's all learning curve, but um so far
I'm liking the new program. Um there's a
[1:06:50]
lot of new features that I think are
going to over time make things very um
[1:06:56]
transparent and efficient, but it's just
getting from here to there. [snorts] And
[1:07:02]
I think like one of the the big things
is the account numbers are changing. So,
[1:07:07]
for me coming back in, I don't have them
all memorized. Some of them I do, but
[1:07:11]
for like Lori and Psyche who know, you
know, the way they've been doing for the
[1:07:16]
past 25 years and now you're dropping
the first zero and you're dropping the
[1:07:20]
third three digits in between and you
know what I mean? It's throwing them out
[1:07:25]
of rhythm a little bit and
>> but it's just it it will come. It will
[1:07:30]
come.
>> Good.
[1:07:34]
uh vert grant. The vert grant's the one
we received work on the hydro buildings
[1:07:39]
themselves. Um we already have the roof
done, the new rubber roof on it and we
[1:07:45]
have the window guide coming in. Um the
windows ordered. Um
[1:07:50]
» so they were approved by
>> Yeah, they got approved by the
[1:07:53]
historical preservation.
>> Um we've got um some more money to spend
[1:08:00]
and so we're we're going to do that. Um
cuz these came in I don't know. I mean
[1:08:07]
this was the project Abby started with
and we thought the roof and the windows
[1:08:10]
were going to suck up the majority of it
and we're not even close. So we have
[1:08:15]
some other projects um we just got to
get moving on. So
[1:08:20]
I'll probably have some more bid
estimates hopefully by the our next
[1:08:23]
meeting
um to approve for that work to get done.
[1:08:28]
Um, Pearl Street sidewalk unfortunately
because of some timing of some things is
[1:08:34]
going not going to happen till this
spring coming up 2027.
[1:08:38]
We won't get it done in 2026. Uh, we did
move the fire hydrant. Um,
[1:08:44]
that's ready to go. So unfortunately
just some delays and some
[1:08:50]
easement stuff and then this we're I
mean it's 98% chance it won't happen but
[1:08:58]
because when you once you get the all
the information it has to go through the
[1:09:02]
state to reook at everything again and
they have up to a month and then there's
[1:09:06]
like another 3 week delay in there or
something like that. So maybe pushing
[1:09:10]
closer to November so we're just going
to wait till the spring. Um
[1:09:16]
if I think majority of everybody can
meet during the day if you wanted or or
[1:09:21]
in the afternoon. Um the folks that did
the dam removal at the reservoir asked
[1:09:26]
if you wanted to do a walk through with
them and they can describe and go over.
[1:09:30]
Um so if you want to throw a date out
there, like I said, I don't know. Sounds
[1:09:36]
like the past we could do some daytime
stuff that you want to do or night. any
[1:09:41]
thoughts on that or get back to me on a
date and time
[1:09:46]
um to do a walk through with them.
Um
[1:09:52]
grant we talked about that. We're moving
forward with that. Um
[1:09:57]
so that's if you remember there's kind
of two main projects there. There's the
[1:10:00]
Boston Post cut over where we're going
to bring from the bridge about a mile
[1:10:05]
up. Bring that from the field to
roadside. And um then the other part is
[1:10:11]
the vegetation management. So we get the
vegetation management process moving. We
[1:10:14]
have a meeting tomorrow, Caroline and I,
a person from the state discuss the
[1:10:19]
great grant and go over it kind of where
we're at with everything.
[1:10:23]
Um
so kind of that's our hopefully our next
[1:10:28]
project. So, we're finishing up an up
that upgrade from Pleasant Street power
[1:10:33]
wise upgrade from Pleasant Street to
Water Tower all the way out through
[1:10:38]
Reservoir Road. Um once that's done,
hope hopefully get that wrapped up and
[1:10:42]
then we're going to move into um the
substation, get that done,
[1:10:47]
and then by then we'll hopefully be
ready to start the Boston Post Road
[1:10:51]
section. That upgrade on Elm Street
Water Tower Road, they're increasing the
[1:10:58]
voltage. Correct.
>> Correct.
[1:11:00]
» They have to shut off the power at some
point to do that.
[1:11:03]
» We do.
>> Have they figured out when we want to do
[1:11:05]
that?
>> We have um engineering that part.
[1:11:10]
» We haven't yet. Um we have some more
work to do to get to that point. And
[1:11:14]
then we have to uh we we need swollen
cell or else it would take probably
[1:11:18]
double the time. So we they're going to
bring two trucks over and like four
[1:11:21]
guys. So
as a business owner in the area, would
[1:11:27]
you re We were thinking doing it during
the day.
[1:11:29]
» I mean, it is what it is. I'm not going
to stop you from doing it.
[1:11:33]
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. We're thinking about during the
[1:11:36]
during the day just cuz it's so much
easier time, you know, half the time.
[1:11:40]
» You can see what you're not walking
through in the dark.
[1:11:44]
» How will people be notified? Yeah.
Oh, no. We'll go out. That's not a whole
[1:11:50]
village thing. That's just uh basically
water tower road up.
[1:11:54]
» So like the bank
>> tractor. No, tracky or yes tractor by
[1:12:01]
Hannerford is off a different circuit.
McDonald's the bank EMS building.
[1:12:13]
Yeah, two of the chesties in this.
[laughter]
[1:12:16]
» Um
>> Dave said multiple hours.
[1:12:21]
» Yeah, probably at least eight or no, at
least uh probably 6 to 8. they'll be
[1:12:27]
down and then
um
[1:12:31]
I mean they'll be working probably a
good 14 hours to get it done but
[1:12:36]
5 to 7 I would say I think is what
they're for the cut over
[1:12:44]
but again another big project that or
not big but a good project that we've
[1:12:47]
been you know been supposedly been
trying to do for the past 100 years it's
[1:12:51]
that step down if you ever seen it just
past the lines there's like by the golf
[1:12:54]
course there's those four funky poles of
the battery fall down that we'll be
[1:12:59]
getting that step down. So, this same
power will be going all the way up
[1:13:04]
through
um
[1:13:07]
that corrosion plan that we had to do
for the state that is probably going to
[1:13:12]
be done this week.
Um, and then the the uh muffin monster.
[1:13:23]
Remember the muffin monster
conversation?
[1:13:26]
» Muffin monster.
>> The muffin monster is a unit that goes
[1:13:30]
in. It's kind of like the first line of
defense for the wastewater department.
[1:13:34]
It's like a bunch of gears
>> and takes out anything that's solid. If
[1:13:40]
anything goes down through there, even
like like thick towel or or um something
[1:13:44]
hard that got through. Uh that's in. Um
so I just got to line up with a digger
[1:13:50]
truck with a power guys to go in there
and pull that out. But
[1:13:53]
» good. That was faster than it was
supposed to.
[1:13:57]
» Yeah.
>> They were planning on doing that when it
[1:13:59]
was cold.
>> Yeah.
[1:14:00]
» So that's good. That's good.
>> Uh their truck is they're just waiting.
[1:14:06]
They're still waiting on their truck.
Um,
[1:14:11]
» yo, the truck's good. [snorts]
>> Um,
[1:14:15]
» happy, not happy.
>> We're happy. I'm happy with the truck,
[1:14:18]
but the they put the wrong hydro
hydraulic uh compressor in the new
[1:14:23]
truck.
>> So, they just came and swapped that back
[1:14:26]
out.
>> Okay.
[1:14:27]
» It got wicked hot. Um, and they were
wondering why. They called the guy out.
[1:14:33]
They didn't even recognize it. And then
they ordered what they thought it they
[1:14:37]
ordered the replacement. Well, they had
a replacement until they got the wrong
[1:14:40]
size.
So they replaced the high the crew came
[1:14:44]
out, replaced it. Um
and now everybody's everybody's happy.
[1:14:49]
» Okay.
>> And and it's been John's half of it was
[1:14:54]
u um decal the other half to do that
tomorrow and then that that truck will
[1:15:00]
be done
>> and on the road.
[1:15:03]
Um, that's what I got.
>> Just [snorts] circling back to the the
[1:15:08]
damn walk through, it might be easiest
if the team threw out like maybe two
[1:15:13]
dates or something or whatever and we
can see if we can go
[1:15:17]
» if there's a date. Yeah, that'd be
helpful too. Or again, you want to start
[1:15:20]
with day or or afternoon or do you want
to go?
[1:15:25]
» Lauren said she'd be open. She's she's
pretty open to what accommodating
[1:15:30]
» if too many of us go. have to warn that
it mean
[1:15:35]
» again as long as we're not talking about
talk about the birds and the damn
[1:15:44]
» I'm not much of a walker so I'm probably
not going to go
[1:15:47]
» okay
>> I'm
[1:15:49]
» she has drone footage so we I can relay
that to you
[1:15:53]
» perfect
>> I'm fairly flexible before 200 p.m. But
[1:15:57]
I just my schedule's kind of all over
the place, so it's hard to to know what
[1:16:03]
I'm going to have available.
>> And getting back to the walking part,
[1:16:07]
you don't really have I mean, you can
walk all the way up if you want, but you
[1:16:11]
can drive literally now right to it and
see where the dam was and see it's not
[1:16:14]
there, but and look up the river. So it
doesn't she she like I mean she's happy
[1:16:20]
to walk the whole thing with you but if
you just want to stop there and look out
[1:16:24]
the river I mean cuz the part that you
look at it's just
[1:16:30]
right it's been dug out and replaced and
so so going to be a drive up too.
[1:16:38]
I think what was saying if she wants to
just pick a couple dates and then we can
[1:16:41]
try to choose out of those two
>> dates. She again she said she be pretty
[1:16:48]
dominating.
>> Okay.
[1:16:56]
» Sounds good.
>> You said before too.
[1:16:58]
» Yeah. I can generally like flex a little
bit time before or after 5:30.
[1:17:03]
Um but like during programming
>> Yeah. during programming time. I need to
[1:17:08]
be doing what day?
>> Yeah, after 5:30
[1:17:12]
because
it's been a long day.
[1:17:15]
» I mean, we got a couple more weeks, but
after that, it's going to start getting
[1:17:18]
» Yeah.
Let me see. I'm just trying to like I
[1:17:21]
can give you some
>> Mondays are kind of better for me.
[1:17:26]
» Leonard,
>> he's retired. He doesn't do anything.
[1:17:31]
You said that before.
[1:17:36]
» So Leonard's a don't care. [laughter]
>> Don't care.
[1:17:40]
» Just let just let me know.
>> I'm guessing Dave, as long as he has a
[1:17:43]
little lead time, doesn't care, per se.
>> You could probably make it where
[1:17:49]
» I know next week is really busy for me
on and off the week after and then a
[1:17:55]
little bit, a little less scheduled as
>> a day slower for you.
[1:18:01]
I'm going uh late September. I have I'll
be gone for a few days, but other than
[1:18:06]
that, I'm pretty open about the 14th.
>> September.
[1:18:11]
» Yeah.
>> No, August.
[1:18:14]
» Sure.
[1:18:17]
» Sometime between 10 and 2, I should be
available.
[1:18:20]
» So, set them about like 11:00.
>> Sure.
[1:18:25]
» You let us know.
>> All right.
[1:18:30]
What is it? 14. Let me show my
>> Monday.
[1:18:34]
» That's not one of your uh hell week.
Dark week.
[1:18:38]
» Oh, right.
>> No, dark week's the 30th.
[1:18:41]
» It's not
>> the 14th, is that what is third week?
[1:18:45]
» No. Um the cut off for
>> that is dark week.
[1:18:48]
» September 11th.
>> So, perfect. You don't have anything to
[1:18:50]
do here. [laughter]
>> So, during that week, we need something
[1:18:54]
to do cuz we're going to be going crazy.
We have a walk through. But it' be a
[1:18:57]
good day for me to be out of the office.
[clears throat and laughter]
[1:19:01]
» Let's play it that day.
>> Let it be a good day.
[1:19:07]
» That is dark night.
>> It's not like you're going to be gone
[1:19:10]
all day.
>> Yeah.
[1:19:13]
All right. So, she was the 14th at 11:00
a.m. I'll tell uh ask Lauren. Okay.
[1:19:24]
Um, and then you can see too what she's
working on. Did I mention this? So,
[1:19:28]
she's working on a grant to help us with
the crossing,
[1:19:33]
um, the river crossing. And we may
adjust it um,
[1:19:38]
and cross up a little bit further and
take that road up the way the road is
[1:19:44]
now. If you never been up there, the
road kind of crosses,
[1:19:47]
» it goes into a little bit of the
easement of the neighbors. It loops up
[1:19:50]
like this to get to well two. The idea
is to just follow the power line. So
[1:19:54]
then we don't have to worry about
vegetation management or the power line
[1:19:57]
anymore cuz we'll keep it clear and if
we're going to put a cover in anyway, we
[1:20:02]
might move the C over a little bit and
then just have the road follow right up
[1:20:05]
to.
>> That's the key.
[1:20:07]
» And then we wouldn't be on the easement
just in case anything would happen. Not
[1:20:11]
that I would per se, but we would have
to worry about that be all on the
[1:20:14]
village property. Good.
[1:20:21]
» I did more talking this time than I have
since I've been here.
[1:20:25]
» So, that project went good with the fire
hydrant up here.
[1:20:31]
» Yep.
>> Okay.
[1:20:32]
» Yep. So, that got moved and all that was
rolled. What was going on on Main Street
[1:20:36]
just
>> Oh, so we had a So, um, FCIDC is finally
[1:20:44]
paving their parking lot and then that
strip, you remember Gary's dying words
[1:20:49]
where make sure that strip gets paid
where they dug their line in the big dig
[1:20:53]
on Main Street.
>> Um, so that's all going to be done here
[1:20:56]
in the next painting should be done the
next week or two. They had to wait
[1:20:59]
» 9th 8th like Tuesday Wednesday in
September
[1:21:04]
» they actually
>> 7th 8th 8th 9th something like that.
[1:21:07]
» Yeah. They had to wait for that gravel
the compact for 3 weeks.
[1:21:13]
» So [snorts] we had to fix that manhole
first.
[1:21:16]
» So the guys did that before school
started.
[1:21:20]
» So that's all done. So when they come to
pave it's all done.
[1:21:26]
Good.
>> I heard uh Swampton the baffle over the
[1:21:32]
dame
had cracked or busted or whatever and
[1:21:36]
it's gone.
>> Yeah.
[1:21:37]
» And now they're not they're buying most
of the electricity. Is that affecting us
[1:21:42]
in any way?
>> They're No, not us. Uh
[1:21:49]
» not really.
>> No, not really. The only thing that is
[1:21:51]
interesting is the river had the river
has changed a bit.
[1:21:56]
So if we were running
um it might have helped us a little bit
[1:22:02]
cuz they're they're not they're not
backing up and then draining the river
[1:22:07]
like they normally would be with that
with that ladder.
[1:22:11]
But technically, no. Okay. And and then
to Heather's point, just we don't forget
[1:22:16]
that Heather had brought up emailed
asking about the whole new tariff thing
[1:22:21]
that's going on and probably saw on the
news that there was shut down can't shut
[1:22:26]
off power to some states or whatever
that in theory shouldn't affect us. I
[1:22:32]
mean, maybe you get into winter a little
bit cuz but everything's volatile in the
[1:22:38]
power world anyway. But again, we don't
buy power directly from Canada. It's
[1:22:44]
more on it would be a more an emergency
purpose. We have a connection through
[1:22:48]
that high gate big substation.
Um that's traditionally what we've been
[1:22:54]
using power from them for is if we ever
needed it for anything south of us or
[1:22:59]
west of us went down we could get power
from that that substation specifically
[1:23:05]
us too the village not others may not
but we could could have fed from BEC
[1:23:11]
through that.
>> Yeah I couldn't remember. I thought
[1:23:13]
there were like some sort of connect
like way we were connected with Canadian
[1:23:17]
powers. I didn't remember the full
details.
[1:23:19]
» Yeah.
>> Might not pan out to be anything but
[1:23:21]
just something to be aware of since it's
something being talked about. I mean it
[1:23:27]
is interesting because
I mean I don't know what the future
[1:23:32]
looks like. Um but you [snorts] know
through VPSA they Velco and they are
[1:23:38]
looking at a huge substation overhaul
like like a million dollars or some
[1:23:42]
crazy number of that substation and
maybe moving it. So I don't know if
[1:23:48]
something happens there now or I think
it all going forward but
[1:23:55]
might make you nervous to spend a
million dollars not knowing they may cut
[1:23:58]
us off
but that's you know and that's all way
[1:24:04]
out world stuff.
[1:24:08]
So,
>> um, can I make an amendment to the, um,
[1:24:15]
agenda because I just realized we have
executive sessions before other
[1:24:18]
business. We're kind of getting into
other business anyway.
[1:24:21]
» Switch those two items.
>> Sure.
[1:24:23]
» Awesome.
[1:24:28]
» All right. Who's got some other
business?
[1:24:31]
I hear
[1:24:35]
um
Brian at the wastewater department asked
[1:24:42]
he said he talked to Ken and we have
extra asphalt millings from when they
[1:24:45]
redid Sis Street. He would like to
purchase some of them.
[1:24:51]
I don't have a problem with it. He
doesn't need much. We're still going to
[1:24:54]
have plenty left over for whatever
projects Kenny has. I guess
[1:24:59]
we just have to decide on a price and if
we're interested in selling or
[1:25:02]
something.
[1:25:06]
» I mean, I don't care. I don't know what
the going rate for that stuff is. I
[1:25:09]
know.
>> I did a quick Google search and about 12
[1:25:12]
bucks a yard is a fair price.
>> Okay. How many yards?
[1:25:20]
» I think he said he wanted a couple ton
truckloads. So, not much.
[1:25:24]
» Couple
>> one ton truckloads.
[1:25:26]
» Oh. So 6 8 y.
[1:25:34]
» What's our policy?
>> Right. I don't know. That's the other
[1:25:38]
thing.
>> Do we have anything against selling that
[1:25:42]
stuff?
>> I I don't think so. I don't I mean I
[1:25:47]
don't know if any policy not to do that.
We always just like when it comes to
[1:25:52]
firewood and stuff, we always just stay
away from it cuz you never know.
[1:25:56]
wants it or who doesn't want it. So, we
just never really touched it, per se.
[1:26:00]
But if if he's buying it,
I don't I don't see an issue with I
[1:26:05]
guess.
>> Very different than giving it away.
[1:26:08]
» Yeah. I mean, we've done it with cell
phones.
[1:26:10]
» Yeah.
>> Simple cell phones that were used that
[1:26:13]
we couldn't use anymore. We sold those
for 20 bucks to people or whatever.
[1:26:17]
» Yeah. It's not like we haven't done that
type of thing before
[1:26:21]
» and that wasn't part of a policy. We
just picked a price and
[1:26:24]
» Yeah. Yeah, we used to do a fair market
value.
[1:26:25]
» Yeah.
>> Okay.
[1:26:29]
And where would that go? Back to the
highway.
[1:26:33]
» Probably their
fun.
[1:26:37]
» Yeah. Unload that middle dumpster. They
make a tool fund.
[1:26:41]
» Okay. So, go there.
>> Okay.
[1:26:50]
» With me. If it's all right with anybody
else.
[1:26:52]
» Yeah. I don't know if we need to move on
that, but
[1:26:55]
» uh
>> probably just so that it's written in
[1:26:59]
» right
>> down what we're selling for.
[1:27:03]
» Yeah. Okay.
>> $12 a yard, 68 yards.
[1:27:08]
» We need to say $12 a yard. I mean,
>> well, we want to make sure there's
[1:27:12]
enough for
>> projects that are needed.
[1:27:15]
» We should say like 10 yards or
something.
[1:27:17]
» Sure.
>> And if it goes over that, we can revisit
[1:27:19]
it.
>> Sure.
[1:27:21]
No more than 10. Okay.
>> So, take a motion to sell up to 10 yards
[1:27:26]
millings to Brian for $12 a yard.
>> All right. We'll make that motion.
[1:27:33]
» Move. Is there a second?
I'll second that. All right. Moved and
[1:27:37]
seconded. Any further discussion?
All those in favor? I post. So move.
[1:27:45]
That's all I have.
[1:28:14]
I don't know if I have anything. I just
I kind of put down a note to like go
[1:28:17]
along with the
like a birthday cake just the king of
[1:28:20]
carts festival if there was something
local produce or something that we could
[1:28:25]
also like hand out to people like apples
or something alternate to a cake and
[1:28:31]
everybody wants cake or something and we
can support local farmer
[1:28:36]
» or something that orchard north whatever
it's called.
[1:28:39]
» Yeah. Yeah.
connect with a local farmer and find a
[1:28:43]
something that like doesn't have to be
packaged or anything and we can just
[1:28:48]
have that available.
>> Okay, I'll double check with them. I
[1:28:51]
just I know what I asked in the past is
when we gave they gave us away a little
[1:28:56]
bit food away goodies or
>> right you don't want to give away stuff
[1:28:59]
that people are there trying to sell.
>> Trying to sell down here
[1:29:03]
down here so it was a little bit
different. I forgot I had to have
[1:29:06]
something in the park.
>> May want to be more conscious of that. I
[1:29:11]
mean, just oranges do the cake.
>> I'm sure we've got local orange trees
[1:29:16]
somewhere, right?
[1:29:22]
» Actually, I was just texting K.
[1:29:30]
» I have nothing else.
[1:29:34]
If there's no other business, I'll take
a motion to enter into executive session
[1:29:38]
for the purpose of discussing
negotiations in which premature public
[1:29:41]
knowledge would compromise the position
of municipality.
[1:29:44]
» We'll make that motion. All right.
>> Seconded. Any further discussion?
[1:29:49]
» All those in favor? I
>> opposed. So moved.