[0:03] He's a good guy. >> [clears throat]

[0:12] » Okay, I'm calling this meeting of the Town Council for the Town of Micanopy to

[0:15] order. It is 7:00 p.m. on August the 10th.

[0:20] And we will do the Pledge of Allegiance.

[0:27] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America

[0:32] and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with

[0:38] liberty and justice for all.

[0:47] » Okay. Roll call. Absent is Scott Davis.

[0:52] Present is Jim Monroe, Victoria Hayes, and Michael O'Neal, and myself,

[0:58] Sonya Richardson, and Teresa

[1:05] Next item on the agenda is public comment on agenda items.

[1:10] Anybody in the room have public comment on agenda items?

[1:18] Okay. Moving on. Minutes of previous council meeting.

[1:23] Decision. So, we need to vote. >> I'll make a motion to accept them as

[1:27] written. >> Good for you.

[1:30] » I'll second. >> That's [clears throat] Michael O'Neal

[1:32] seconding. And your vote, Jim?

[1:35] » Yeah, yes. >> Agreed. I.

[1:44] » Okay, next moving on. Pay [clears throat] monthly bills. Decision

[1:47] and we need a vote. >> I'll make a motion to pay the bills.

[1:50] » Michael O'Neal. >> I'll second.

[1:54] » Jim Monroe seconds. And your vote, Vic? >> I vote I. Agreed.

[1:58] » Agreed.

[2:04] » Okay. With regard to reports, time cards, with the transfer finance

[2:09] committee, any questions on the report?

[2:14] No?

[2:18] Yeah. Moving on to old business.

[2:23] Sewer connection for the US Forest Service update.

[2:28] » Me? >> Yes.

[2:30] » Does it say HDR? >> It doesn't.

[2:32] » Um I've reached out to Mark Foster a couple times on this and I haven't heard

[2:35] back from him. Um we actually have a meeting at a separate

[2:39] meeting in Rexford tomorrow that he's supposed to attend. So, I'll try to

[2:43] corner him there and get some answers. >> I do know [clears throat] he's got it in

[2:47] the in the budget. Each city was putting it in. This was I

[2:51] was talking to him last year. >> Okay.

[2:54] » And they were putting in their budget together at the time, so they were

[2:57] looking to connect. Hopefully if they get, you know,

[3:00] approved then they'll go ahead.

[3:04] » I second that.

[3:08] All right. You need a second minute to not second.

[3:10] » Yeah, but they didn't ask. >> the next item is the sewer Well, we have

[3:14] we have to do it in stages otherwise the recent update.

[3:16] » I should have kept up with the meeting right now.

[3:19] Um >> Okay, sewer mains the HDR update for the

[3:22] sewer main. >> Yeah. So, uh this is our big project for

[3:25] the town right now. Um we just got our geotech and survey

[3:31] completed last week. Um so, those results um will take a

[3:36] couple weeks to come in. Um and then we will get those to our

[3:39] design team and we will start uh designing our replacement force main.

[3:44] Um

[3:47] I was out there with them when they were doing the core drilling. I don't think

[3:50] there's anything too terribly unknown that we didn't

[3:54] foresee with it. Um there are some spots where they barely had enough cover on it

[3:59] to begin with cuz they're they put it into rock um pretty much the entire way.

[4:04] They either had to blast or rip it open, so um there'll be a couple sections

[4:08] that'll be a little tough

[4:10] um to get down or that we just have to excavate a little bit more, but nothing

[4:13] too serious as of right now. Um the crossing at the north end of the

[4:20] trunk um thankfully we're not in bedrock, which

[4:24] is great. Um we didn't even hit rock corn down deeper than they did in the

[4:28] ones in the railroad right-of-way, so that's all positive. And then um we're

[4:33] working with Kevin and his crew to do our last little bit of inspection, uh

[4:38] which is going to be right uh here crossing the tobacco from the lift

[4:42] station, so we're going to TV that section of pipe. Um

[4:46] our hope is that the integrity of that pipe is still really good, so we don't

[4:50] have to do a new crossing there. >> Mhm.

[4:52] » Um and that we would just basically reline that section of pipe um

[4:58] and uh with a CIPP. And then we would replace everything

[5:02] from after that, so um we'll be working out there the next week or two um to get

[5:07] that inspected, and then uh we'll have hopefully all of our information uh for

[5:12] existing conditions, and then we'll be off to races on on design.

[5:16] » Thank you. >> You bet.

[5:19] » Okay. Moving on,

[5:23] uh Zach as well for the sewer aeration pond, the HDR update for that.

[5:27] » Yep, so um kudos to public works staff. Um we got the aeration pond back up and

[5:33] working. Uh the pumps have been serviced. There's new valves up there.

[5:37] Um there's a new intake screen um for the actual transfer pumps that push from

[5:42] the aeration pond up to the higher ponds for further the

[5:46] Um we got a good This whole process was a good learning curve, I think, for for

[5:52] everybody here in the town. Um, we found that, you know, existing

[5:56] as-built drawings were inaccurate. There was different infrastructure in that

[6:00] pond than we thought there was. Um, so even though this wasn't an ideal

[6:05] situation, um, for the town, it allowed us to to find

[6:09] out a bunch of new things about our treatment plant up there, um, which I

[6:13] think is positive. So, we take it as a learning experience. We've upgraded some

[6:17] things up there, and we should be good for

[6:21] I'm hoping the next couple years until we can actually get to

[6:25] removing all the solid down in that pond and redo some

[6:29] some intricacies of how it works up there as well for for better treatment

[6:34] for the future, so. >> Okay.

[6:36] » Thanks, Zach. Um, the next one, also Zach, is the

[6:40] water PER, the preliminary engineering report for grants.

[6:44] » Yep. So, we plan on, um, starting on the water PER in January. Um, so we have

[6:50] that scope and fee drafted and everything. We're just waiting to

[6:53] execute that. Um, we have our second grant that we're

[6:56] going after for the funding of this PER. Um, it's going to be one that you guys

[7:01] have gotten in the past for the wastewater one.

[7:04] Uh, this is through DNR C. It's a renewable resources, uh, planning grant.

[7:09] So, this one's for $40,000. Um, we previously submitted a CDBG for

[7:14] 50. Um, so we will be, um,

[7:19] hopefully turning in that application tomorrow.

[7:22] » Excellent. Thank you. Um, moving on, the Government Review

[7:26] Study Commission update. We have no update. And I think we're coming up to

[7:31] the deadline soon.

[7:35] Moving on to new business. Transportation Road Assessment Report,

[7:40] Zach. This is a good one.

[7:43] » [laughter] >> Yeah, so a couple weeks ago

[7:47] HDR, the town, Mr. Durham with the county,

[7:52] and public works staff, we all sat down and um

[7:56] did a quick inventory of some of the [clears throat] worst

[8:01] roads within the town, and specifically focused in on the TIFF

[8:07] district. Um as we have some funds that need to be

[8:10] expended or at least allocated by the end of this year for projects. So our

[8:15] goal was to inventory town with a focus on the TIFF district. Um but we did

[8:21] expand that. Um I came back up earlier last week and

[8:25] kind of expanded just doing a whole town-wide assessment of all the roads.

[8:30] And so we're writing that up right now. Um plan is to put together a

[8:35] comprehensive document that can help guide the town in the future as far as

[8:40] priorities for future larger reconstructions, and will help us aid in

[8:45] getting more grant money. So we'll be finalizing that, and then

[8:49] that will also help us put together a bid package

[8:52] for the next month to 6 weeks is kind of when we're

[8:56] targeting to where we can pick off we're hoping probably around four

[9:01] different projects around town that will will hopefully get done this fall.

[9:06] » That's exciting to me. Mary.

[9:10] » And then we've allocated or we've identified two

[9:13] major projects that came from our survey list that we

[9:18] will go after for a larger, it's called a build grant.

[9:22] Um it used to be called raise, it used to

[9:25] be called something else. Like they just keep renaming it, but effectively it's

[9:29] one of the largest transportation grants that you can get in the state.

[9:34] I think I'll have to double check, but I think the town we qualified for to

[9:38] dollars for that one. So, it's a good chunk of money.

[9:43] Um and I think most likely we would go after Central

[9:47] for that one to start. That's kind of our thought there. That

[9:51] will ultimately be up to the >> Thank you, Emmy.

[9:54] » Yes. >> Excellent. Thank you for that.

[9:59] » [snorts] >> Moving on to the next item on the agenda

[10:04] is resolution number 2026-823, which is for the annual tax levy, and we

[10:10] actually won't be doing that on this evening only because there's been a

[10:13] change in formula on the mill levy determination schedule. So, we don't

[10:17] have enough numbers right now in our budget to be able to do that and they

[10:20] changed the algorithm and Teresa will be getting training on it tomorrow.

[10:25] So, we will do we will cover that resolution

[10:29] in the special meeting on the 24th.

[10:33] Moving on to resolution number 2026-824, which is the intent to increase water

[10:39] rates. And we need to vote on that.

[10:45] » I have a comment on that. >> Sure.

[10:47] » Um it was my understanding that when we were going over these things, we were

[10:51] raising the water rates um to what we needed.

[10:55] Okay. And then it looks like in the resolution

[10:58] we're also going to implement some commercial rates and so forth and so

[11:01] forth. Is that Is that the way that it reads?

[11:06] » Um let's see what let's see uh uh uh

[11:09] » Yes, that is how it reads currently. >> That's what we're planning.

[11:14] Well, we're We're planning on discussing. I'd say, you know, these are

[11:18] resolutions of intent so that they can give people an idea of

[11:23] what will be going on under the discussion in the public meetings.

[11:27] Um and also a better idea of what we've been discussing in the work sessions

[11:32] here. I want to hear about that and come in.

[11:36] So, whether or not you pick up um

[11:40] any of this these changes, this is just

[11:44] the intent document that gets published in the paper and says, "This is what

[11:49] we're thinking about doing with the rates." So, you got to come to the

[11:52] public meetings and and talk with us and see what's going

[11:56] on. So, if there's something in there that you don't want, then you just don't

[12:01] adopt it in the in the ordinance. Okay.

[12:04] » And that was my biggest concern. It looks to me like we're going to be

[12:06] raising the rates. And then also, on top of that,

[12:11] raising the rates for all the commercial folks, and we haven't even really talked

[12:15] too much about that. And so,

[12:19] that's kind of where I was kind of confused on that.

[12:21] » Yeah. No, no, but that's why it's in there.

[12:24] It's so that's get discussed. Um Eureka has not had a commercial rate

[12:31] um in in

[12:34] you know, we had talked about some of the breakdowns and things that had been

[12:38] suggested, but >> [snorts]

[12:40] » you know, that was why we just dropped back to the

[12:43] to the the number to the four categories again.

[12:48] » I just wanted to be clear cuz I think there'll be some questions, you know, if

[12:51] we're raising the rates to where they need to be,

[12:54] but then it's going to be more for these other groups of people, you know, I

[12:58] think that's kind of I was going wanting to avoid that, you know.

[13:01] Um because well, if we're already getting what we

[13:04] need, what are we getting more for?

[13:08] » So, I think >> Well, and that is the question and you

[13:10] know, that's part of the question, too. Are we

[13:13] getting the rates where they where they need to be?

[13:16] Um the base rates that I gave you in the work sessions, that was strictly based

[13:22] on the cost of living increase index from the federal indexes.

[13:28] So, we still need to take our own in in our bonds

[13:33] and those and and run them through the rate calculator

[13:37] on there and make sure, you know, we do or that the that that's where you want

[13:42] to go with them. On there, if you do want to want to

[13:45] separate um

[13:48] and and have a separate set of rates, some some towns do, some towns don't.

[13:55] Almost all of the major areas do on there. They're mainly um

[14:02] it's for like, you know, really what you're looking to pick up is the car

[14:05] washes, the heavy water consumers, um stuff like that.

[14:10] » And then also just um at the work session you'd said $120,

[14:15] remember? When we had worked with with the numbers and you you voted, not

[14:19] voted, but you had recommended we go for that. I think if you look at this, it's

[14:23] not even at that amount. What has been >> Right. And that's what I

[14:26] » Yeah. Not to start with. >> The the 120 was a reference that the

[14:29] state was giving us. And if they would have said 115, I would

[14:33] have said 115. I didn't want I don't choose 120. I was just referencing what

[14:37] they had said we needed. >> Suggestion, yeah. And but it has been

[14:40] reduced even from that. So, I think it's at 107 possibly.

[14:44] » And that's what they what they put in the numbers and they they spits out what

[14:48] we need, right? That's that's great. I'm all for that.

[14:51] I'm not necessarily for all the

[14:55] all the extras right at this moment with the with the

[14:59] rate increase and then the next 3 years a rate increase.

[15:02] But on top of that, we're already we're just going to go ahead and ding all

[15:05] these other people, too. >> Well, I just wanted to quickly if yeah,

[15:09] it's it's not really dinging them because it's

[15:12] » you get what you need >> Yeah, but you're getting what you need

[15:14] from the single family homeowner and >> From all the people that are getting

[15:17] water, you're getting what you need. That's where Where do come from.

[15:21] » Correct. However, if you are if you raise your rates and

[15:26] you are only you're raising your rates and you have to because of our DEQ

[15:30] concentrically and there's a whole lot of all this other stuff that goes into

[15:33] play. If you take that into consideration and you raise the rates,

[15:38] people that currently have apartment buildings, car washes,

[15:44] they are still using one water and sewer line. That's not fair.

[15:49] Where the single family homeowner is going to have to carry the burden

[15:51] whereas both people are getting a break and that's not that's why

[15:55] for me the commercial rate increase was important just because it would simplify

[16:00] what the actual usage is in terms of size and I think that's what

[16:05] we discussed at the

[16:07] » Yeah. So, I think I think maybe a another way

[16:10] to look at the commercial rates is to look at it similar to like how we

[16:15] implement the the EDU multiplier. So, based on your meter size, you have

[16:22] a bigger impact on the overall system. It's the very similar with a business.

[16:27] » Yeah, that's right. Yeah, if you have a 1-in it's going to be

[16:30] 7.29. [clears throat] Yeah, I get that. It's all right here.

[16:34] » Right. So, yeah. So, I guess like the last thing that we like at the work

[16:38] session we didn't have included was just the definition

[16:42] of what that would apply to which we've included in here as well.

[16:45] Um so, yeah. Obviously, it's all you guys in in your discretion, but you

[16:50] know, if if the point is to make sure that every resident of the

[16:56] town is equally contributing on a rate basis

[17:00] to maintaining the infrastructure in the town,

[17:04] eventually you will need to get to some commercial rate.

[17:07] Because the businesses are having a a good

[17:10] » So, back to my point is, you know, we're all you know, I think we're implementing

[17:13] two different things here all at once and we haven't really had any

[17:16] discussion about it. >> But if I if I'm understanding correctly,

[17:19] we're not committing to this. All we're saying is we're we're going to increase

[17:23] the rates. This is about where we're going to be

[17:26] and in our future work sessions, which we can make public, then we can talk

[17:30] about it. >> Right.

[17:31] » [clears throat] >> We were here we've you know, obviously

[17:34] Cliff and I have been part of all the work sessions and the meetings with you

[17:37] guys. We basically just taking everything that

[17:40] we've discussed, that's been on the table, put it in this intent so that it

[17:44] can be an open forum for discussion and for for the final determination in 6

[17:49] weeks.

[17:53] » Well, I disagree. And I think we talked about commercial rates quite a bit in

[17:57] our work session. >> Well, we did. Yeah, we did talk about

[18:00] how we want you know, we want them, we need them, things about nature. But

[18:03] there really isn't we don't know what is commercial, for example. Speaking of

[18:07] those Airbnbs, just for example, we haven't

[18:13] determined whether or not they are, you know.

[18:15] » Mhm. >> Um

[18:17] No, and that's on an actually on my list to provide you

[18:20] during these sessions is some of the definitions that I see.

[18:24] But I mean >> [clears throat]

[18:25] » most of the time the definitions are in his guidebooks.

[18:30] On there, just for lack of a better way of putting it.

[18:33] » Mhm. >> We we use the engineers as the resource

[18:37] on that so we can figure out you know, what is that differential in in use.

[18:43] » Right. >> Not just in gallons, but in the impacts

[18:47] on the system. And that would be where I would look to find if you were going to

[18:52] engage a different a different rate. And it may be that Eureka's still at that

[18:58] point that it doesn't need the separate separate rates.

[19:05] » So, I think just to clarify, it's not we're not voting on doing that. It's

[19:09] just an going to to do that. Because they'll do the final vote I think in 6

[19:13] weeks. >> Yep. The The main point of this is to

[19:17] give the public notice that we're going to be on water rates to make some

[19:21] improvements to the system and here's our ideas for now.

[19:28] » And bearing in mind the ideas are all based on

[19:31] the fact that they haven't been raised in 87 and 8 years

[19:35] and that we haven't kept up for the last almost decade.

[19:39] » Yep. >> And so now we're in a position where we

[19:40] don't have a choice because now we have to rehabilitate our water and these are

[19:45] sewer systems for instance. And in order to qualify because we under

[19:49] a DQ consent decree, we don't meet the standard for federal funding for the

[19:54] grants. So we don't have a choice. If we want to

[19:56] it's going to cost us millions to do this.

[20:00] And so we have to get the money from somewhere and in order to do that we

[20:03] have to meet that criteria. >> Right. Yep. Your eligibility is based

[20:07] off of your rates. How much funding you'll be eligible for. So if your rates

[20:11] are not in an acceptable position, you will qualify for less

[20:15] grant money. >> So that's part of the other information.

[20:19] » what That's That's how we came up with these base rates for all the things that

[20:23] are right now. The The water and sewer, that's how we came up with those rates.

[20:27] » Yes. >> Charging that amount of money we

[20:29] qualify. >> Yes, because so yeah, with the target

[20:33] rate what I was just outlining with the Horseman project in particular,

[20:37] those grants you guys have to be at a certain target rate percentage by the

[20:42] end of construction. So that's what like how we've outlined it on here is that

[20:46] you would hit that target rate by the end of

[20:50] construction.

[20:56] » Any other questions? >> No, but I move that we

[21:01] the council consider resolution 2026-824

[21:08] for the potential increase in water rates.

[21:11] » Okay. >> I'll second.

[21:14] » Jim second and Victoria and Jim second. >> I agree.

[21:20] » And Michael agrees.

[21:25] And then moving on to the next item on the agenda, which is resolution number

[21:28] 2026-825,

[21:32] which would be the intent to increase sewer rates. And we need a vote for

[21:36] that. >> I'll make

[21:37] I'll make a motion to accept the resolution.

[21:41] » I'll second. >> And you agree?

[21:44] » Jim agrees.

[21:48] » Okay. Moving on to the next item, which is

[21:53] council and mayor comments. Anyone from the council have comments?

[22:00] No. No comments? Okay.

[22:03] Then I'll move on to the mayor comments. I have a couple of um items that I

[22:07] wanted to mention. Um

[22:11] the first thing >> [clears throat]

[22:12] » residents should know is that I'm requesting that residents

[22:16] take care of their properties. They need to start getting rid of trash on their

[22:20] properties, cut their grass, just take care of their little patch in our town,

[22:26] so that our town looks well cared for and does not look neglected. So, the

[22:32] town what town hall has been receiving complaints about various properties

[22:35] around the town and we try to address them as that we become aware of them.

[22:40] Um but I just wanted to make special note that people are responsible for

[22:43] taking care of their properties, taking out their trash, and cleaning it up.

[22:48] So, for me that's pretty important. I think it's um

[22:53] it's a good point. It's a good It's good for people to take care of their little

[22:57] patch of America, the way I see it. Second thing that I want people to know

[23:02] is that next week, starting next week Monday,

[23:05] our DPW, Department of Public Works, will be flushing our fire hydrants.

[23:10] So, every single fire hydrant in the town will be flushed. I think there's

[23:13] about 42 of them, but I stand to correction, Kevin.

[23:17] Um I did put it out on my Facebook page. I did put it out on our website, and I

[23:21] did put it out and we did give it to the newspaper.

[23:25] Um So, when you flush it, and Kevin, correct me that it's going to be There's

[23:30] a possibility of it being a little tinged, right? Yeah. With brown?

[23:33] » Yeah. >> Um so, if you just run it until it's

[23:36] clear, >> Yep.

[23:37] » it should be fine. Do you have anything else you want to

[23:41] add to that? >> No, that's basically it.

[23:43] » Okay. >> About how many gallons does a

[23:46] flushing >> [clears throat]

[23:47] » require? Per per gallon?

[23:49] » It just depends.

[23:54] » Okay. And then, the third thing I wanted to

[23:56] mention, and then for the town council members,

[23:59] we have here a special meeting on August 24th at 3:00 p.m. So, there'll be a

[24:04] public hearing, and then straight after that, I think 5 minutes right after the

[24:07] public hearing, to reset, plus minus, and then we'll move into um it's for the

[24:11] budget. So,

[24:15] that will be on August 24th at 3:00 p.m. It'll be um

[24:21] comments Oh, that's right. Comments on the final budget, and then also the mill

[24:24] levies will be cuz that's what their resolution was

[24:27] that you didn't get to, the mill levies.

[24:31] » [clears throat]

[24:35] » Okay. Do you have something, Neil?

[24:39] » Thank you, Mayor. Uh Friday I dealt with an individual

[24:43] that was starting a fire, and uh we don't have any restrictions on

[24:47] that, given that it's a recreational fire, except that he was burning a

[24:51] television. And so, we do have a law, and he was

[24:54] cited for that, but it it kind of brought up a discussion, and you and I

[24:58] spoke on Friday. I was hoping to have opportunity for the council to just

[25:01] address [clears throat] if we are moving into fire season elevated risk. You

[25:04] mentioned the the rubbish in the yard and that puts each residence

[25:09] at greater risk. I've invited our fire chief here today

[25:12] as well and it's in reference to our city code section 78.

[25:20] And

[25:22] I'll just if you don't mind, I'll just read the the short phrase. Um

[25:30] See.

[25:36] Waste paper similar readily combustibles non-explosive material may be disposed

[25:40] of by burning in incinerators of a type and condition approved by the fire chief

[25:46] except during such hours or periods as the fire chief may determine such

[25:50] burning would constitute a fire hazard. And so

[25:53] we are moving into that season. [clears throat]

[25:56] I think it would be appropriate, but it's not my call, for the town to adopt

[26:00] the county standards when they go to level whatever with their fire

[26:05] situation. Uh fire chief, do you have something for

[26:08] us, Ron? >> Um

[26:11] the county state of Montana and the the federal

[26:15] government this time of year they meet on Tuesday mornings

[26:19] and that's where they all sit down and talk about

[26:22] what the fire danger is. Have there been human caused fires?

[26:26] There's a number of factors they talk about. That's an extremely factor for

[26:29] going to restrictions or taking restrictions off.

[26:33] My comment on that is I think it's appropriate for the town to

[26:39] move to restrictions, but I think it's appropriate for the

[26:42] town to move at the same time. Move in unison.

[26:46] A number of years ago and it's been a couple of decades

[26:50] they did not all the entities did not move in unison, the tribes and the state

[26:54] and whatever else. And so you have a mishmash of different restrictions in

[26:59] different places and for people living

[27:04] in the city limits, they could, for example, they might be

[27:08] under restrictions that nobody else was and vice versa. And I just don't think

[27:12] that's good business. It is confusing to people and I think

[27:15] if you choose to do that, I I would strongly encourage you to

[27:19] do it in unison at the same time. You would move with them.

[27:23] » And when you say within you mean the state [clears throat] or do you mean

[27:25] Lincoln County? >> Get the county's involved as well.

[27:29] » So, to me >> we the last

[27:32] fire season we did, we actually made it so that we do go with what the county

[27:36] every time. So, we >> you've got a new regulation

[27:40] » Yes, we do. So, we do >> So, it does move in a

[27:42] » Yep, I didn't know >> We already do, yep.

[27:44] » So, we we follow what Lincoln County what they say, we follow.

[27:48] » Yep. Or it's actually you can go stricter.

[27:51] » Mhm. >> That's the way we set it up, but you at

[27:53] the minimum you want to be set the same place as the fire service in your county

[27:58] are. >> Okay. So, does that does that answer

[28:01] your question? >> I believe so. I guess maybe we can get

[28:05] that regulation posted. Perhaps the newspaper can get the idea of making

[28:09] people aware of it. Maybe >> And I'll put it on the website, too.

[28:13] » Thank you. >> Thank you for bringing this to our

[28:15] attention.

[28:18] Thanks, Chief Comey. Appreciate your time. I'd like to give us some

[28:21] information. Uh we have public comments on our agenda

[28:25] items. If anybody has anything they'd like to say.

[28:30] All right. Moving on to adjournment. Thank you for everyone for coming

[28:35] um to our town council meeting. We love seeing people here. Thank you for that.

[28:40] » [clears throat] >> Rock oriented.

[28:46] I'm going to have to get out of here since it's our last since it's our last

[28:49] day. >> I don't know. It's 41 minutes.

[28:53] » Yeah.

[28:56] » Catherine asked me how long and I said I've been here for like 20 minutes.

[28:59] » Yeah, 48 minutes. >> [laughter]

[29:08] » You know what are you doing? I was

[29:11] just going to say hi. >> Yeah, I got to go.

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