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[6:21] Hello, everybody.

[6:21] We're gonna start this meeting.

[6:25] My name's Aaron Brown.

[6:26] I'm the vice chair.

[6:27] I'm sitting as chair this evening.

[6:30] The Exeter planning board.

[6:32] Meeting of September 10th, 2026.

[6:35] I do want to start just by taking one second to ask you to

[6:38] Take a moment of silence to recognize.

[6:41] The anniversary that's coming up for nine 11 please.

[6:43] Hmm.

[6:52] Okay, thank you for that.

[6:54] Hmm.

[6:55] Let's start with introductions to my far.

[6:57] Right.

[6:57] Please introduce yourself.

[6:58] Marty Kennedy.

[7:00] Jen Martel.

[7:02] Gwen English, Nancy Blan luck board of representative.

[7:06] Sam McLeod alternate.

[7:07] Great.

[7:09] And Sam, we're gonna make you active this evening.

[7:11] Okay.

[7:14] Why don't we start with the approval of the minutes from 8 27, 20 26.

[7:20] I don't think we have them in our packet.

[7:21] Mr. How did we not have Mr. I think here we only had this

[7:25] July 9th.

[7:26] And then the sidewalk of.

[7:29] 14th, our emails said that they weren't available when the packages together that's.

[7:34] Yeah.

[7:35] Do you want to go over the other stuff or just table at all

[7:38] We should do Lucy, probably do the ninth and the 14th.

[7:40] Okay.

[7:41] Yeah, let's do the, let's do the first one.

[7:53] Do you have any?

[7:55] I have a few.

[7:55] If you'd like me to start, go for it.

[7:58] Line 82 page two of seven.

[8:01] And this is again, the July.

[8:05] Ninth, 2026 draft meeting minutes.

[8:09] It says comes around the.

[8:11] Corner and narrows the word.

[8:13] Corner

[8:15] needs to replace power.

[8:24] On page four seven.

[8:26] Line 1 53.

[8:28] Evan Lumis from, I think it should have N H D E S.

[8:32] S added there.

[8:36] On my

[8:37] 2 38 on page six of seven.

[8:41] Silly one, but it's

[8:43] it's during public comment period.

[8:45] Ms. Blan explained why bike racks.

[8:47] Can't be, it says N and it should be on the sidewalk.

[8:59] And then the only other thing I noticed, and I don't know if we

[9:02] need to really correct it, but it's on page seven of seven.

[9:06] Line 2 58, a vote was taken.

[9:09] All word favor, the motion passed unanimously.

[9:13] At that point.

[9:14] I just didn't know if we wanted to know and we don't have to

[9:17] add it, but I'd rather say it anyway tonight.

[9:20] That we had lost John Ruger.

[9:22] Online.

[9:22] So the role call was no longer needed.

[9:25] Because we didn't have a member on zoom,

[9:28] so it doesn't need to be added.

[9:29] I just wanted to know that.

[9:30] Yeah.

[9:31] Yeah.

[9:31] And I'm all set on that.

[9:34] Anybody else?

[9:36] I have, I have two, two typos.

[9:40] One on page three.

[9:43] Line 1 21 at the end.

[9:47] This is a roll call.

[9:47] Vote was taken by Ms. Kennedy.

[9:50] That should be Mr.

[9:52] And

[9:53] similarly

[9:55] on

[9:56] page four.

[9:58] Line 1 37.

[10:00] It says

[10:02] me English.

[10:03] I think that's Ms. English.

[10:06] Huh

[10:07] no, I love it.

[10:08] That's it.

[10:08] So.

[10:11] Anybody else?

[10:15] Then I will make a motion.

[10:18] To accept the July 9th, 2026.

[10:21] Meeting minutes as amended.

[10:24] Amend all those in favor.

[10:25] Oh second.

[10:26] Did someone second?

[10:26] You did.

[10:27] Nope.

[10:27] You just did.

[10:28] Okay.

[10:28] All those in favor.

[10:29] Aye.

[10:30] Aye.

[10:31] Sustained.

[10:32] I'm gonna abstain

[10:33] against.

[10:34] Okay.

[10:35] Pushing passes.

[10:36] Passes.

[10:37] What's the other one you wanna do?

[10:39] It was the site walk July 14th.

[10:41] Yep.

[11:06] So

[11:07] anything on it.

[11:17] Anything on it.

[11:21] I have to abstain cuz I didn't make that.Okay.

[11:21] I didn't make it back in town.

[11:22] I mean the minutes are always sparse.

[11:24] I think at one point we didn't even take minutes.

[11:26] I think we just.

[11:27] Used to take attendance on the sidewalk.

[11:29] I think it came out that we have to.

[11:31] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[11:33] Think they're fine.

[11:33] I mean, fine.

[11:37] I'm fine with it.

[11:38] I make a motion to expect the minutes from the July 14th sidewalk.

[11:44] Second

[11:45] one second.

[11:46] Mm-hmm all those in favor.

[11:48] Aye.

[11:49] Abstained, abstained, abstain.

[11:52] All right.

[11:52] So we have 1, 2, 4.

[11:54] In favor two abstentions, none opposed passed.

[12:01] Okay.

[12:04] Dave, I think,

[12:05] I can't remember if you introduced yourself this evening or not.

[12:09] You did

[12:12] yeah.Oh, when I went through don't put Dave shackles.

[12:14] Yeah.

[12:14] So do you want to start, I'm gonna ask you what the next.

[12:17] Order of business.

[12:18] If we're ready to roll on that.

[12:20] Continuation of the application.

[12:22] Of Phillips Exeter academy for minor site plan review to construct three new duplexes

[12:27] for faculty housing on tax maps.

[12:30] Maps 83 dash zero one and 72 dash 99.

[12:34] The applicant is also submitting a voluntary law merger.

[12:38] Application to merge tax map, lot 72 dash 99 into tax map.

[12:44] 83 dash zero one for a single attractive land.

[12:46] Planning board case number 26 dash seven.

[12:51] Thank you.

[12:51] As you know, it's been on the agenda for quite some time now, but

[12:56] it hasn't been heard.

[12:56] It's been continued.

[12:58] Continued because the ZBA

[13:00] approved special exception, but then a rehearing was requested.

[13:04] So it kind of stayed.

[13:05] And then the rehearing, the ZBA affirmed the special granting of the special exception

[13:10] but then that was appealed.

[13:12] To the state of New Hampshire housing board of appeals.

[13:15] Appeals.

[13:15] So that is where it is now that will take months to resolve.

[13:19] And so

[13:21] I would suggest that.

[13:24] I suggest the following motion.

[13:26] As agreed by the applicant in an email dated September 3rd, 2026.

[13:31] You moved that the request of Altis engineering on behalf of Phillips Exeter academy

[13:35] from minor site plan approval will be tabled until further notice with the condition

[13:40] That abutters are re notified of the meeting when it returns to the board

[13:45] Does somebody wanna make that motion?

[13:47] Do I have a second?

[13:49] Second.

[13:50] See you a second.

[13:51] All those in favor.

[13:52] Aye.

[13:53] Aye.

[13:54] Opposed.

[13:56] Stain.

[13:58] I think we're all.

[13:58] I think it was unanimous.

[13:59] Yes.

[13:59] Mm-hmm.

[14:00] yes.

[14:06] So next on the agenda is the application of Jones and beach on behalf

[14:09] of.

[14:10] Green company for subdivision and conditional use permit application for a proposed 14 lot

[14:16] Residential cluster subdivision consisting of single family homes.

[14:20] Homes on the 10.1 acre parcel of the Exeter country club property.

[14:24] That currently serves as this driving range.

[14:27] Tax map 52.

[14:29] Lot

[14:31] one plaintiff board case number 26 dash 14.

[14:36] Dave, anything on that one?

[14:38] Yeah.

[14:38] The first thing you usually do, cause this is hasn't been heard before is

[14:41] you either, you know, you decide.

[14:43] You make a decision on acceptance of the plans and if they're complete for

[14:47] review purposes, I.

[14:49] I believe they are.

[14:50] So that would be up to the board to accept those and open the

[14:53] case.

[14:53] Right.

[14:54] Yeah.Well, you accept the either, you know, you vote on acceptance of the plans

[14:58] Yeah.

[15:00] Okay.Yeah.

[15:00] And we want to make a motion on that.

[15:03] Acceptance of the plan as complete for review purposes, I think is the motion

[15:08] you say.

[15:08] So since said the words.

[15:12] Second all second.

[15:13] Okay.

[15:14] Any discussion,

[15:15] all those in favor.

[15:17] Aye.

[15:18] Opposed.

[15:20] Stained passive unanimously shall open this case.

[15:23] I do have a unique request of the applicant.

[15:25] We had a member of the.

[15:27] Public come in with the last second and want to be heard early because

[15:30] of the.

[15:32] Kind of an emergency physical condition kind of impose on you folks for that

[15:36] That's totally familiar.

[15:36] If he's ready now to talk.

[15:37] Absolutely.

[15:38] You wanna wait till they go?

[15:39] No, no, they can go.

[15:40] You want to speak first in the public?

[15:42] Yes.

[15:43] Okay.

[15:43] That's fine.

[15:44] Thank you so much.

[15:44] Okay.

[15:46] Remind me, please.

[15:47] I will.

[15:47] All right.

[15:47] And then.

[15:49] I'll

[15:50] go ahead, Dave, can I, yeah, please.

[15:51] I'll do the intro now.

[15:52] Yeah.

[15:53] Thanks.

[15:54] As you said they're proposing a 14 lot residential cluster subdivision.

[15:58] Consisting on single family homes on a tenant about a 10 acre parcel at

[16:03] the Exeter country club.

[16:05] Property that currently serves as the driving range.

[16:08] A conditional use permit will be required.

[16:11] Required for the proposed impacts to the wetland buffer associated with the cross-country sewer

[16:15] The conservation commission will hear the application at their October.

[16:19] 13th 2026 meeting.

[16:22] The applicant also needs approval from the select board for the proposed sewer line

[16:25] to cross a town owned lot.

[16:28] The applicant appeared before the TRC on August 27th.

[16:32] And the TRC comment letter is enclosed in your packets.

[16:35] Packets, the applicant has also been reviewed by the U by Underwood engineers.

[16:40] Engineers and their comment letter dated September 1st is also enclosed for.

[16:45] For your review.

[16:46] The applicant did not have time to revise the plans in response to the

[16:50] comment letters, but requested to be placed on.

[16:53] This agenda to start the discussion on the application.

[16:56] I expect, I expect the board to hold the sidewalk.

[16:58] You generally do, and receive written comments from the conservation commission.

[17:03] Before taking any action on the

[17:05] proposal and conditional use.

[17:07] I would suggest that the board start the public hearing and at a minimum

[17:10] mask, initial questions and review the yield plan.

[17:13] That's kind of the threshold document.

[17:15] Mm-hmm .

[17:16] That you know, can determine.

[17:18] The layout of the design.

[17:20] Depending on how, how many units in the, the planning board usually.

[17:24] Reviews that and accepts it and gets a, you know, a unit account and

[17:28] then moves forward.

[17:30] And there are no waivers being requested at this time, but that may change

[17:33] depending on the responses to the comment letters.

[17:35] That's all I have.

[17:36] Thank you.

[17:38] I'm just gonna make one comment before I hand it over to the applicant

[17:43] It seems like there's a pretty good group from the audience.

[17:46] Versus some of our meetings.

[17:47] And I'm gonna assume they're probably here for this hearing.

[17:50] So.

[17:51] One of the things that we do at this hearing is we try to

[17:52] take care of public comments, the applicant initial application.

[17:57] And it's really still in the review process.

[17:59] We're gonna end up requesting

[18:01] sidewalk from the applicant at a time that's mutually agreeable to them and to

[18:05] us.

[18:05] And that is a public sidewalk.

[18:07] Walk, you are welcome to that.

[18:08] And I encourage you to go if you have interest.

[18:11] Also

[18:13] and when you're

[18:15] hearing what the applicant does, especially with the yield plan.

[18:19] It's not generally what they end up building.

[18:21] They're trying to.

[18:22] Demonstrate that they can get a certain number of units.

[18:26] By right with the zoning regulation, but the plan they ultimately submit.

[18:30] Will vary dramatically from what they will submit with their yield plan under a

[18:34] typical application.

[18:36] That's just my kind of comment to the public.

[18:38] If you're not familiar with the process.

[18:40] It is a little bit of a complicated process.

[18:43] And it can be confusing.

[18:44] And if you have questions.

[18:46] Questions.

[18:46] We encourage you to ask them at the appropriate time with that being said

[18:50] there you go.

[18:51] Thank you, Mr. Chair, page Libby with Johnson beach engineers here on behalf of

[18:55] the applicant greening company.

[18:57] Michael Green is here as well as Jenna green and John O'Neill.

[19:01] So we were here back in July a couple months ago for a design

[19:04] review.

[19:05] This plan will be very similar to what you saw.

[19:07] Then some minor changes have been made and we also.

[19:09] Updated the plans not to include all of the design details.

[19:13] Details.But again, for the record, it's map 52 lot one, which is 58 JD

[19:17] hill Ave.

[19:18] So the total parcel is close to 73 acres.

[19:21] It is the.

[19:21] Golf course currently

[19:23] the Exter country club.

[19:25] We are looking at approximately a 10 acre parcel that is at near the

[19:29] frontage of.

[19:31] The parcel, which is shown on our existing conditions plan.

[19:34] We don't show the entirety of the property because we won't be developing that

[19:38] It is accessed off the end of JD hill Ave, which is sort of

[19:41] a little dead end piece of the road that is off of.

[19:45] The intersection with Webster Ave, there's only two homes on the, that road currently

[19:50] And also there is the cart path that comes off from the country club

[19:55] clubhouse.

[19:55] So you'll see that running toward the clubhouse here.

[19:58] And then it sort of makes a curve and runs along the Western boundary

[20:02] of the property that we're looking at.

[20:04] So the property currently is the golf course is driving range.

[20:08] You can see the tree line here on the plan, which is kind of

[20:10] the large clearing that is for the current driving range.

[20:14] The

[20:15] property's pretty moderately sloped.

[20:16] It does steepen as it gets closer to the wheel, right Creek, which is

[20:20] on the Eastern boundary of the property.

[20:22] The golf course does utilize some of this space right in the corner here

[20:26] in the Northeast corner.

[20:28] Closest to the Creek

[20:29] for one of their tea boxes for one of the golf holes.

[20:32] And there is a wetland that runs through the property.

[20:35] This is very similar, actually the same as what you saw previously.

[20:39] Since our previous plan was a real wetland delineation versus just being a concept

[20:44] So that sort of divides the property almost two thirds, one third.

[20:48] Split with the majority of the land being on the Western side of that

[20:52] wetland.

[20:56] Included in our plan set is a demolition plan.

[20:58] We did show our proposed road on here, just so it kind of made

[21:01] a little bit more sense with what's.

[21:02] What's going on and we have kind of a blown up.

[21:05] Shot of that intersection at the Webster Ave, JD hill Ave intersection, cuz there's

[21:10] quite a bit going on there as you come around that corner.

[21:14] And head toward the driving range.

[21:16] The road really narrows as it comes into JD hill road.

[21:19] So we'll need to actually widen JD hill Ave in order to make that

[21:23] an adequate access for the proposed subdivision.

[21:26] And there's quite a bit of infrastructure in that area.

[21:28] There's a,

[21:29] a fire hydrant, a couple of utility poles.

[21:32] Poles some drainage that will all need to be reworked.

[21:35] So that's what this plan shows.

[21:36] And we do plan on adding a similar kind of blown up detail on

[21:40] our utility.

[21:41] Plans at the request of D P w to show that in a little

[21:44] bit more detail as well.

[21:46] The other thing that we'll have to get relocated is there's some overhead power

[21:49] that runs out actually into the golf course for kind of their maintenance building

[21:53] That's out there.

[21:54] That'll have to get reworked so that it runs along the cart path instead

[21:58] cuz right now it's running through what will be our proposed lots.

[22:02] Lots.And then a small section of the cart path will also have to get

[22:05] relocated in this area.

[22:07] So you can see the existing cart path here.

[22:10] This is the only section that we'll get impact and an only to be

[22:13] relocated to kind of connect the existing.

[22:16] To the existing, instead of running through our proposed road.

[22:20] Also within the right of way along JD hill Ave, there are some trees

[22:23] in that area, as well as some fencing.

[22:26] That we'll all have to get pushed back to the west onto the country

[22:29] club side of the right of white line.

[22:33] So this is our proposed yield plan.

[22:35] It's 14 lots again, very similar to what you saw before.

[22:38] We did make some minor tweaks.

[22:40] Tweaks to it.

[22:40] Based on some comments we received at our last meeting.

[22:43] But we do have 14 lots, which are all the, the.

[22:47] Required conventional size per the zoning within the R two district.

[22:52] And then this is our proposed cluster subdivision plan.

[22:55] So you can see the lots are all clustered together on this Western side

[22:59] of the wetland.

[23:01] Which is in this area

[23:02] and we're proposing about 50% just under, I think it's 49.9% open space.

[23:09] So we're proposing more open space than is actually required for the ordinance.

[23:13] But we do have that area available.

[23:14] So we're proposing all of that as open space.

[23:17] And the only thing I will mention is that the golf course does, will

[23:21] continue to utilize the space that is currently their tee box.

[23:24] That will be part of the.

[23:25] Open space that will be an easement to them.

[23:28] Which is consistent with the rules of what's allowed within the open space, including

[23:32] recreation.

[23:33] The proposed road is about a thousand feet long, but that includes.

[23:38] Includes about 200 feet of road that we'll need to get upgraded.

[23:41] Upgraded on the end of JD hill Ave.

[23:42] Like I mentioned before, that will have to get widened for this project.

[23:45] Just so it's.

[23:47] It's accessible for the 14 lots as well as the two existing homes on

[23:50] that road.

[23:51] And we do also propose a stop sign at the end of the road

[23:54] because currently this is almost like a three-way intersection.

[23:58] Between the two sections of JD hill, lab, and Webster Ave.

[24:02] So, and right now it's, it's just the two homes there.

[24:04] So that's served its purpose for the time being, but with an additional 14

[24:08] homes, we felt it.

[24:10] Was necessary to add an additional stop sign there.

[24:14] This is our proposed grading plan.

[24:16] So we're proposing some.

[24:18] Drainage upgrades at the intersection of JD hill Ave, as well as sloping.

[24:23] The proposed road into our site and we have several catch basins along our

[24:27] road to collect drainage.

[24:28] That actually comes down the hill from the golf course.

[24:31] And will be graded to come down the road into our catch basin so

[24:34] we can help to.

[24:36] Mitigate some of the drainage issues that are currently occurring at that intersection.

[24:40] And then we have two proposed stormwater basins.

[24:43] These are bio retention with internal storage reservoirs that provide

[24:47] stormwater.

[24:48] Peak flow attenuation as well as treatment of the runoff.

[24:52] And those catch basins will direct.

[24:54] That runoff into those areas to be treated and infiltrate and infiltrated.

[24:59] We do have some wetland buffer impacts, which are shown in the green, in

[25:02] the orange and pink on the plan.

[25:05] Which are temporary impacts only.

[25:07] These are for.

[25:08] Construction, basically, if the back burns of these ponds and those will all be

[25:12] re-vegetated as part of the project, once that is complete.

[25:16] We do have also have two small wetland crossings.

[25:18] One is located right here.

[25:20] And the second is right here, and that is for us to tie into

[25:24] sewer, which I'll speak about on the next slide.

[25:29] So this plan shows our proposed utilities.

[25:32] The water will connect to.

[25:35] The end of JD Hila and come up through the site and loop around

[25:38] There's some studies that we need to look into at the request of D

[25:41] P w that came up at TRC.

[25:43] So we'll need to look into that.

[25:45] And then we did propose a cross country sewer line.

[25:48] Like we mentioned at our last meeting

[25:50] that we'll have to be approved by the select board because there's this there's

[25:54] There's two properties down here that are actually owned by the town of Exeter

[25:57] And the closest sewer manhole is down here off at the end of Webster

[26:01] Ave, which is much, much lower.

[26:03] Than the manhole that is up at the top of Webster Ave.

[26:07] This manhole is also very shallow.

[26:09] So in order to allow us to connect to.

[26:12] Sewer with gravity flow.

[26:13] We have to come down the hill and connect to that manhole, which is

[26:16] at the end of Webster Ave.

[26:18] So that is really what the two.

[26:20] Wetland buffer or wetland.

[26:22] Impacts that we propose are shown on

[26:25] C2 or four is for those, those sewer crossings.

[26:29] Crossings.

[26:31] We have a lighting plan here that shows we just have a couple of

[26:34] proposed streetlights.

[26:34] There's actually currently one at the end of.

[26:37] JD hill, lab and Webster a intersection.

[26:40] So we're just proposing to replace that one in the same location on the

[26:43] pole.

[26:43] Once that's relocated.

[26:45] And then we proposed our cluster mailbox unit.

[26:48] Right here at the entrance to our road.

[26:49] So we have one light there as well as one at the end of

[26:53] the intersection.

[26:56] This is our landscaping plan.

[26:58] So we proposed street trees along the road on both sides as required.

[27:02] Required per the regulations.

[27:03] And then we also do have pretty substantial

[27:06] buffer planting along the.

[27:09] Country club property line, which is where those current trees are that we'll have

[27:12] to get cut down.

[27:13] So that will be to replace those in order to screen

[27:16] the country.

[27:17] Club from the two homes that are on Janie hill Ave.

[27:22] And then we just have our truck training plans.

[27:24] Plans.

[27:25] This is the roadway profile, so you can see.

[27:27] Starting here.

[27:28] The road is sloped down into our site entirely with catch basins, to pick

[27:32] up the drainage as it comes down into our site.

[27:37] And then this is that cross-country sewer.

[27:40] Profile.

[27:41] So you can see how much the.

[27:43] Grade changes between the top of the street and.

[27:47] Down at the end of Webster Ave.

[27:53] And then we just have our detail plans.

[27:55] Plans.So that's really an overview of the project

[27:57] we wanted to come before you, even though we didn't have time to revise

[28:00] our plans per the TRC meeting, which was a couple of weeks ago.

[28:04] Because we knew that when we were here for the design review, the board

[28:07] did wanna do a site walk.

[28:08] So we wanted to make sure that we came to you and.

[28:11] Possibly could get that scheduled so that we could.

[28:14] Do the sidewalk revise the plans and then come back before you and have

[28:17] everything.

[28:18] Situated so that you can ask more questions then.

[28:22] And we also do have to go before the conservation commission, like Dave mentioned

[28:40] Is that it for now?

[28:41] Yes.

[28:41] Okay.

[28:41] Yeah.

[28:42] We can answer any questions that you might have.

[28:43] Okay.

[28:45] Ms chair.

[28:45] Could I just ask one question you need to go before the select board

[28:48] of you spoken to the chair about getting on the agenda yet?

[28:51] We have not yet.

[28:52] I believe.

[28:53] That Kevin mom is working on a letter to request to be on their

[28:56] agenda.

[28:57] Okay, so you don't know when that's going out.

[28:59] I'm not sure when that, when that will be scheduled.

[29:02] Okay.

[29:03] Hopefully prior to they're kind of half probably should happen.

[29:07] Yes, sooner than later, right?

[29:08] It's one of those chicken before the egg things, because we also feel that

[29:12] the select board may not want to approve it until the planning.

[29:15] Board has it all.

[29:16] I definitely, yeah, no, I, I think you need, like, I treat it as

[29:20] like,

[29:21] forget the town owns it.

[29:22] If you were going through.

[29:24] Doug Eastman's lot, right?

[29:25] Yeah.

[29:25] You'd you'd need to get approval before you got approval from the planning.

[29:28] Right.

[29:29] So I, I don't want to like muddy the waters by who owns.

[29:32] Owns it right.

[29:32] It's just get approval before approval here.

[29:35] That's what I would say.

[29:38] And the, the sorry, Mr. Chair.

[29:39] No, no. So that agenda.

[29:42] Is very well planned out for the select board.

[29:45] So you really wanna get that loaded to the chair sooner than later.

[29:49] So he can give you an idea when he can fit that in.

[29:51] Okay.

[29:52] Thank you.

[29:53] Thank you.

[29:54] You have any questions from the board at this time?

[29:57] I'm gonna have the audience.

[29:59] Well, I'm asking if you have questions or not.

[30:00] I have questions, but I'll wait.

[30:01] You wanna hear from them first?

[30:02] Yeah,

[30:03] I'm good.

[30:04] You good over here, you.

[30:07] I'm gonna open it up to the members of the public to speak.

[30:10] Please come to the podium.

[30:11] Yes.

[30:12] If you can.

[30:13] You want us to bring you?

[30:14] We can bring you the mic if you'd like.

[30:18] No state your name and your address, please, and speak clearly in the mic

[30:21] and speak to the board.

[30:22] Not to the applicant.

[30:24] Thank you.

[30:30] Apologize

[30:34] familiar.

[30:34] Sorry.

[30:36] Move the piece transport.

[30:38] It's a four-way intersection where you can go.

[30:41] I'm sorry, sir, sir.

[30:41] Coming off.

[30:42] Oh, sorry.

[30:44] Please introduce yourself.

[30:45] I am Greg McCarthy.

[30:46] I live at four Webster avenue.

[30:49] I live on approximate.

[30:51] One acre, which you right about there.

[30:54] That appear to have the longest.

[30:56] Shared residential property line that abuts this project.

[31:02] I have spoken previously in front of this board where I spoke conditionally in

[31:06] favor of.

[31:08] The original clubhouse replacement effort, that condition being.

[31:13] Getting some of these storm water and drainage taken care of.

[31:18] That has affected our neighborhood for decades.

[31:22] My purpose today.

[31:23] Why am I here?

[31:25] Why was this important to me?

[31:28] I want to put this project into a current and historical perspective so that

[31:32] the abutter concerns that you're gonna hear tonight.

[31:35] Can be viewed in the appropriate context.

[31:39] I'm gonna start chronologically and speak somewhat generally, but I think I'll be able

[31:43] to get my point across.

[31:46] Jumping it back in time.

[31:48] World war II ended and a bunch of houses has got built up in

[31:51] the Jada hill neighborhood.

[31:52] Mine included

[31:54] 1946.

[31:57] Excuse me.

[31:59] My understanding.

[32:01] At the time is that JD hill.

[32:03] That neighborhood Webster Ave, the golf course parking lot.

[32:07] Those were all dirt roads back in the day.

[32:10] At some point Webster avenue got paid.

[32:13] I'm guessing that was probably in the 1950s.

[32:16] Fifties in some level

[32:18] of.

[32:19] Storm water drainage or runoff drainage, whatever you want to call it was installed

[32:25] Later on.

[32:26] At some point I want to get, I, I don't have the exact date

[32:30] but the town of Exeter.

[32:32] Allowed and approved the golf course to pave their current parking lot.

[32:36] There was no evidence that I know of.

[32:40] That showed that the town.

[32:43] Improved the local infrastructure to account for.

[32:46] Or mitigate

[32:47] the effects of paving this lot when it comes to the amount of runoff

[32:52] And, and drainage issues that our neighborhood has.

[32:57] You know, as you all know,

[32:59] time has passed since then.

[33:00] And our weather has gotten worse.

[33:03] The amount of storms, their frequency and severity have gotten much worse over time

[33:08] And as a result of this combination of circumstances,

[33:13] the lay of the land has changed.

[33:15] You'll see, like my lot, for example,

[33:18] used to be somewhat level.

[33:20] It used to be a baseball field where their neighborhood kids played ball.

[33:25] At for a long time, it was a pasture where horses were raised.

[33:30] Raised

[33:31] the current conditions.

[33:32] On my lot, make none of these activities possible today.

[33:40] This storm drainage that we do have leftover from the original.

[33:44] Paving effort from way back when.

[33:47] It's honestly, almost never maintained.

[33:49] I've lost track of how many times.

[33:52] Over the years, not this year, not last year, but over all the years

[33:56] That I've cleaned up the storm range, that Doug has other neighbors as well

[34:03] Doesn't sound important now, but I'll loop back to that later on.

[34:08] In more recent times.

[34:10] Things continued in this general direction.

[34:14] When Webster Ave was repaved a couple of years ago.

[34:19] The crown of the road itself changed quite dramatically and pushed even more water

[34:25] To the Northern side of Webster avenue.

[34:28] And I doubt very much that the road, as it currently exists.

[34:32] Exists meets current D O T specifications for what?

[34:36] The crown of a road.

[34:38] Should be

[34:40] I've looked at ears worth of meeting minutes.

[34:43] Other documentation that show categorically.

[34:46] The problem that I'm discussing today.

[34:49] The stormwater runoff and drainage issues have been well understood by the town of

[34:53] Exeter for decades.

[34:55] It's not a surprise or a matter of debate.

[34:58] It's a known fact.

[35:00] As evidenced by the record itself, which sits on the town website.

[35:04] And we have a critical town employee who everyone in here knows.

[35:08] Knows who has lived through this problem.

[35:10] Decade over decade as it runs through his backyard.

[35:14] Getting closer and closer to his basement.

[35:19] Sorry.

[35:22] Recently

[35:23] over

[35:24] unanimous neighborhood opposition, the town approved.

[35:27] That housing project off of Haven lane.

[35:31] The one that sits between Haven lane and Portsmouth avenue.

[35:34] I don't know what it's called.

[35:36] I call it the Gulag,

[35:38] cuz that's what it looks like to me.

[35:40] The Haven league neighborhood was ruined.

[35:43] And the town blessed it.

[35:46] That project should speak volumes about our collective reluctance for new construction and our

[35:52] literal.

[35:53] Backyards.

[35:56] Even more recently, the town of had an opportunity to not only rectify.

[36:01] Past mistakes on JD hill, but to catch up.

[36:04] The entire neighborhood infrastructure.

[36:07] The pumping station project.

[36:09] Instead of taking advantage of the fact that the entire storm drainage system was

[36:14] dug up and exposed for the world to see where were.

[36:17] They nine feet wide and eight feet deep.

[36:20] For the length of Webster avenue.

[36:23] The town didn't do anything else except going there and do the pumping station

[36:27] project.

[36:30] Our yards were torn up.

[36:32] Invasive plant species were introduced.

[36:35] And nothing else was accomplished.

[36:38] We're left with the same drainage and runoff problems that we had before this

[36:42] project started.

[36:44] About a, what a year ago.

[36:46] And I referenced the start of the project.

[36:49] For a reason.

[36:51] It's one of the most compelling ways to ensure that the board understands how

[36:55] we are feeling right now.

[36:57] This pumping station station, project.

[37:00] Appears to still be incomplete.

[37:02] Every day we're dodging at least four pylons.

[37:06] Pylons set up in our roads

[37:07] that are protecting.

[37:10] Holes in the asphalt.

[37:12] Asphalt

[37:14] and it's dangerous.

[37:17] But I, I point this out to also point out one other thing.

[37:21] During this same timeframe of the pumping station project.

[37:25] The town manages to start and then finish.

[37:28] Completely

[37:29] roundabout on the other side of town.

[37:32] And I, you know, to me, that's a pretty good example.

[37:36] Of why we feel like our neighborhood.

[37:39] Is being neglected.

[37:41] And ignored.

[37:48] Everything I've said so far leads to this.

[37:52] Given the facts and circumstances, I've just laid out.

[37:55] Why should we trust anything coming from the developer or the town?

[38:00] For that matter

[38:01] clearly.

[38:03] And for decades now, no one has been taking our needs seriously, and I

[38:06] believe this needs to change.

[38:08] We have a town leadership and committees.

[38:12] Committees that are all about putting beautiful granite curbs.

[38:14] Curbs in certain neighborhoods while JD hill has no curbs at all.

[38:19] And the LA this lack of infrastructure.

[38:22] Is having a huge negative impact on our properties.

[38:29] The plants that have been shown here today.

[38:32] You know,

[38:34] who knows.

[38:36] Knows I,

[38:37] to me

[38:39] this looks like another opportunity for a whole lot more water to come running

[38:43] down our streets.

[38:45] And

[38:47] I, I, we all have video of what this place looks like, what our

[38:51] road looks like.

[38:52] When the rain hits, it's not pretty.

[38:56] And I understand, I totally understand the purpose.

[38:59] Of having to,

[39:00] you know, like last meeting.

[39:03] Discussed for an extensive period of time, the use of nesting boxes for someone

[39:07] else's project.

[39:08] I get that.

[39:09] I understand why that's important.

[39:12] But

[39:13] using Haven lane, as our example, at some point we have to prioritize.

[39:18] The needs and the requirements, the basic.

[39:22] Infrastructure requirements of the people who have lived here in faithfully paid.

[39:26] Exeter rising property taxes for years and years on end.

[39:32] I mean

[39:33] that that's where we're at.

[39:36] This project.

[39:38] Has forced me to learn a whole bunch of new words and phrases that

[39:40] I didn't wanna have to get into.

[39:43] Things like

[39:44] ministerial failure.

[39:46] Constitutional property protections.

[39:48] Private nuisance and trespass.

[39:51] Trespass specific negligence, reasonable use doctrine.

[39:55] Invested property interest.

[39:57] As I stated emphatically.

[39:59] The last time I spoke before this board, my goal is to be a

[40:03] partner with a town of Exeter.

[40:05] It's just getting harder and harder.

[40:08] I don't want to be in opposition.

[40:10] But

[40:12] if this project goes forward,

[40:15] something has to be done.

[40:18] To fix the problems that we have had.

[40:20] For decades

[40:22] instead of just being ignored again and being left to deal with the ramifications

[40:26] of another project.

[40:28] That impacts our neighborhood.

[40:33] So that's all I've got to say.

[40:36] The only other thing I can think of based on what we.

[40:40] Just heard is whether or not the property site visit.

[40:44] The site walk.

[40:45] Is that what we called it?

[40:47] Whether or not that sidewalk was going to.

[40:50] Include an actual site walk of Webster avenue.

[40:53] Itself.

[40:55] I, I would strongly

[40:58] recommend that that happens so that you can see.

[41:01] The downstream impact from projects at the top of the hill, before we start

[41:05] cutting down trees and widening roads and all that other stuff.

[41:09] We can show you firsthand.

[41:12] What it looks like when we don't have enough infrastructure in place.

[41:16] To handle basic neighborhood requirements.

[41:20] And that's all I've got.

[41:20] Thanks for your time.

[41:21] I appreciate it.

[41:23] Thank you.

[41:30] I think it will.

[41:32] Include Webster Ave considering the access.

[41:33] We'll probably end a parking.

[41:35] I would think at the clubhouse.

[41:37] Generally

[41:39] and walking over.

[41:40] When we do the site walk

[41:43] that'll the site walk.

[41:45] Sidewalk time.Indeed.

[41:45] If you can't make it to the end of the meeting will be on

[41:49] the website once we have it established, but it will be determined tonight.

[41:52] Anybody else in the public wanna speak?

[41:57] Again, please introduce yourself and your address.

[42:01] My name is Gail Morse and I live at 73 JD hill avenue.

[42:06] And I was living there when they put in.

[42:10] The paved

[42:11] driveway at the country club and believe me.

[42:14] Oftentimes, they put it in an August day.

[42:19] In the nineties, I'd have to.

[42:21] Find out

[42:22] exactly.

[42:24] But it was put in, in the nineties.

[42:26] Nineties.And when it rains.

[42:28] Rains.It jumps right over the, the storm drain.

[42:32] It, it comes down so fast and if they do a sidewalk, if they

[42:36] ever do.

[42:38] I would suggest they come on a rainy day.

[42:42] Because that's what you're gonna see.

[42:44] You'll see it.

[42:45] I'm lucky I don't get water in my basement.

[42:49] But I'm the top of the hill.

[42:52] But I know my neighbors.

[42:55] Neighbors have been

[42:56] affected by this.

[43:00] It's disappointing to see.

[43:03] 14 houses.

[43:04] Why 14?

[43:05] Why couldn't it be five?

[43:08] You know, we, I

[43:11] I don't know what year we put the new water treatment plant in.

[43:16] But we've all been paying higher.

[43:18] It went up probably around 2015.

[43:22] If I'm not mistaken.

[43:24] Our water bills.

[43:25] And now after that meeting that we had the first time.

[43:29] In back in July on the 14 houses.

[43:33] They said, oh, we don't longer have to be on.

[43:37] A number four.

[43:39] Water ban.

[43:41] What a coincidence.

[43:42] I think.

[43:45] I'm just disappointed that that they're ruining.

[43:49] That neighborhood, our neighborhood.

[43:52] I've lived there

[43:53] a number of years.

[43:55] And it's been nice.

[43:57] Quiet

[43:58] seeing children.

[44:00] On the

[44:01] sledding across the street.

[44:02] Let me ask you.

[44:04] Are the children still gonna be able to go sledding?

[44:08] From the hill on the country club.

[44:11] Will they still be allowed?

[44:14] To go sledding.

[44:16] When this new development happens, if it does happen.

[44:21] Because if it does

[44:23] oftentimes I've observed many children.

[44:27] Ending up

[44:28] in the practice field.

[44:30] So keep that in mind, keep our children.

[44:33] Safe.

[44:38] I think someone in the back.

[44:46] My name is Janet Mirati.

[44:49] I live at my husband and I live at 79 JD hill a.

[44:53] Which would be the last house when they mentioned those two houses.

[44:57] On the end of the street.

[45:00] I'm the last house.

[45:03] And

[45:05] I wanna express my concerns about the proposed development at the end of our

[45:09] dead end.

[45:09] And it is a dead end street.

[45:12] It's not an.

[45:13] Empty lot somewhere.

[45:14] It's a dead end street.

[45:17] A pair, a dirt path, and then we're driving range.

[45:22] And before any approvals are granted, I asked the town to require a clear

[45:27] road widening plan.

[45:29] Adequate protection from the golf course for us.

[45:33] A drainage review wildlife protection in a traffic study that addresses pedestrian safety.

[45:39] We're very walkable.

[45:41] Community.

[45:43] They have stated that the road would need to be widened, but.

[45:47] They say, remove a few trees.

[45:51] These trees are mature.

[45:53] In fact, I believe some are registered with the conservation commission.

[45:56] This is what they, the trees.

[45:58] That they have to remove.

[46:01] Which will also increase the drainage.

[46:04] Issues.

[46:07] And

[46:09] in addition to

[46:11] controlling drainage and erosion.

[46:14] Because it's a hill,

[46:16] the golf course comes down a hill that we are across the street from

[46:20] a hill.

[46:24] It's an important buffer.

[46:26] Between our homes and the golf course.

[46:29] They have a safety net, which is really not adequate.

[46:33] We get golf ball.

[46:33] We all get golf balls.

[46:36] Balls and this would be gone.

[46:38] We would have no buffer.

[46:40] Which means we would have no protection.

[46:44] And they do mention

[46:46] I did not, I didn't have a chance to.

[46:50] Really examine these plans because they were just posted on Tuesday afternoon.

[46:57] I know they mentioned some kind of a vegetation buffer.

[47:01] Between Webster a

[47:04] and

[47:04] the, this development.

[47:07] But I don't see really anything being worked on.

[47:11] For the buffer across the street from us.

[47:16] The other thing

[47:18] the neighborhood is highly walkable.

[47:22] Regularly used by dog walkers.

[47:25] Walkers families, children.

[47:27] Elderly people.

[47:30] And

[47:31] I think that if this were to go through, we would need the sidewalk

[47:36] Extended

[47:37] when the Gulf

[47:39] course was going to have their new clubhouse.

[47:42] I believe.

[47:44] One of the stipulations was that the sidewalk.

[47:48] Be extended from where it ends at

[47:51] Hayes trailer park.

[47:54] I think that that would have to happen.

[47:56] In order to protect pedestrians.

[47:59] Pedestrians and

[48:02] the other thing too.

[48:02] And I, I don't think this has been mentioned.

[48:07] This development will be surrounded by conservation land.

[48:12] In fact

[48:13] it in, at the end of this dirt path, that pot of which will

[48:17] become the erode.

[48:19] Road.

[48:19] There's the Irvine.

[48:21] Conservation area, which is a town owned conservation area.

[48:27] Those birds and animals.

[48:30] What will be the impact on them?

[48:33] Because right now it's a golf course and there's a large wooded area on

[48:38] the other side of the driving range.

[48:39] And I have no idea how much of that.

[48:41] There that there will be removing, but I know some will be removed.

[48:45] Removed.

[48:46] And I just wanna end by saying I've lived here.

[48:50] For almost 30 years, I've raised my children here.

[48:55] I'm concerned about that this continued development.

[48:59] Particularly when variances in special considerations are requested, can overlook the safety, affordability and

[49:06] quality of life.

[49:07] Concerns of established neighborhoods.

[49:10] Neighborhoods.

[49:11] And I know that the town master.

[49:13] Plan

[49:15] focuses on

[49:17] affordable housing and maintaining neighborhood character.

[49:21] This does neither of those things.

[49:23] Thank you.

[49:40] Hi everyone.

[49:41] My name is Rebecca Zollner and I live at 71 JD hill Ave.

[49:45] And I'm also here to speak on behalf of

[49:48] Jennifer.

[49:48] Indiana Macon of 67.

[49:51] And Maria and John George of 77 Jie hill Ave.

[49:55] They couldn't be here tonight because frankly, this meeting is at a tricky time

[49:58] for parents,

[49:59] you know, it's time of day for dinner and homework and bedtime, but.

[50:03] That's life on our street and that's exactly why I am here.

[50:07] This is a family neighborhood.

[50:08] It always has been, as you know, our neighbors have attested to tonight.

[50:12] And we have chosen the street deliberately because it is quiet and safe in

[50:15] the kind of place where our kids can be kits.

[50:18] Kits and we're here tonight.

[50:19] I'm here tonight asking the board to help us protect that.

[50:23] I wanna call out something very specifically, because I do think it gets a

[50:26] little bit lost in the paperwork.

[50:27] We've talked about this dead end a lot.

[50:30] But this dead end section of the road is the only safe and flat

[50:33] place where our kids to play in this neighborhood.

[50:37] Not one of a few options.

[50:38] It truly is the only option.

[50:40] And in summer evenings, you'll find that dead end is full of kids learning

[50:43] how to ride.

[50:44] Their bikes and kicking balls.

[50:46] And.

[50:47] Playing outside with each other while we, as parents can just watch them enjoy

[50:50] being outside in the summer.

[50:52] It's really the heart of our neighborhood, where friendships are formed and our community

[50:56] really happens.

[50:59] The surrounding streets carry

[51:01] constant traffic from the golf course.

[51:04] It's constant and this traffic.

[51:08] Of the golf course and its members

[51:09] who are also very rarely mindful of the fact that there are kids at

[51:13] play in this neighborhood.

[51:15] Families have learned to keep our kids away from that side of the street

[51:18] And it really is only safe to go up this way.

[51:22] So that's where all our kids are going to play.

[51:23] And like I said, learning to ride their bikes and playing outside, playing street

[51:26] hockey, and just again, being outside and enjoying the.

[51:29] Kids because that's

[51:32] that's where it's safe.

[51:33] And if this development goes through that ends.

[51:36] Ends permanently, really for us.

[51:39] Like I said, this is we've all said numerous times tonight.

[51:42] This is a single entry narrow road and it already carries a lot of

[51:46] traffic.

[51:48] They're a golf club members and employees who use it daily and often at

[51:51] speeds.

[51:51] And without the awareness, you would appreciate from anyone who, where kids.

[51:56] Are playing or families are living.

[51:58] And this develop is not going on.

[52:00] Vacantly and you are replacing or driving range.

[52:02] The golf traffic doesn't go anywhere.

[52:04] This is just more traffic and.

[52:06] More cars, interrupting where our kids get to play.

[52:10] And we would really ask that an independent traffic study be completed.

[52:14] Before any, anything moves forward?

[52:18] The drainage we, our, our neighborhood will talk your ear off about drainage.

[52:21] It's a problem.

[52:22] I won't go into more detail about the drainage.

[52:26] But again, we are really asking.

[52:28] For an independent drainage or stormwater study, kind of whatever the, the correct term

[52:32] for that would be to be.

[52:34] Completed.

[52:35] And then for any re remediation needed to be paid for by the developer

[52:38] we don't feel that this should really come back and affect us as families

[52:41] who are already living here.

[52:44] You know, as Gail mentioned, we've been living under a water restriction for the

[52:47] better part of a year.

[52:48] At this point, I believe.

[52:49] And every family on the street we've cut back.

[52:52] Look at our gardens, they're dead and sad.

[52:55] But approving 14 additional homes in the middle of this is just gonna add

[52:59] more permanent demand to the water supply that it appears already in crisis.

[53:04] So my neighbors trusted me to be here tonight because they couldn't be because

[53:08] Knowing that without somebody standing up for us, the interest of this neighborhood can

[53:12] get overlooked in a process like this.

[53:14] We're not just neighbors in the loose sense of the word.

[53:16] We are a community.

[53:18] We celebrate holidays together.

[53:20] We eat dinner outside together in the summer.

[53:21] We catch and get to watch each other's children grow up.

[53:25] This didn't happen by chance.

[53:26] This didn't happen by accident.

[53:28] This happens because this is a type of street where we are, that this

[53:31] can happen.

[53:33] We don't

[53:34] are not asking the board to stop all development.

[53:36] That's obviously not reasonable.

[53:38] We are asking you to think carefully about what gets lost.

[53:41] When you change the character of a neighborhood like ours.

[53:44] Ours and hoping that you would require an independent, independent traffic drainage and water

[53:48] studies before any approval gets granted.

[53:52] The big kind of point here is our kids play at that one dead

[53:54] end in our families gather there.

[53:56] Please help us protect it.

[53:58] Thank you.

[53:59] Thank you.

[54:19] Sherman Chester three Webster avenue.

[54:22] I grew up on Webster avenue.

[54:25] And have been a neighbor of, of the country club for 71 years.

[54:31] I see the changes in neighborhoods around Webster avenue.

[54:35] And this proposed development.

[54:37] Is unnecessary and detrimental to the neighborhood.

[54:41] The town and the country club.

[54:43] Exeter country club.

[54:46] Coach bill Belichick is what it is.

[54:49] Recreational nine hole golf course.

[54:52] Now the original clubhouse was destroyed by a tornado in 1953.

[54:57] The current clubhouse has been on site and remodeled over the years and serves

[55:00] its purpose.

[55:01] For nine months of the year.

[55:03] The ground crews, they've done a lot to improve the fairways and greens over

[55:06] the recent years, but it is not.

[55:09] And never will be in the same league as Portsmouth Wentworth, Ana peas and

[55:13] on and on and on.

[55:15] Years ago, my dad

[55:17] and I were both members.

[55:18] He aged out and I decided just taking a good walk was less frustrating

[55:24] Change inevitable, but let's keep it constructive and not destructive.

[55:29] Developers, they're ruining Exeter.

[55:31] They're putting an unnecessary burden on the infrastructure and the traffic flow here in

[55:35] the town.

[55:37] The two main arteries into downtown Exeter.

[55:38] They're being clogged by the squall of poorly thought out development.

[55:42] And please no one on the various boards here in the town of Exeter

[55:46] wants to use the phrase, affordable housing or workforce housing, because that is a

[55:50] Fallacy.

[55:52] I'd like to see the board members representing Exeter show some restraint in there

[55:55] to decision making.

[55:57] Realizing the legacy that they're leaving for future generations.

[56:01] I, I also realize that native Exeter residents are becoming extinct.

[56:05] And some of our children can't afford to live and grow their families right

[56:09] here in the town.

[56:09] They grew up in and keep that process going.

[56:13] Progress.

[56:14] No.

[56:15] Keeping the charm in historical significance of Exeter.

[56:18] Questionable.

[56:19] I asked the board's representing Exeter to put a two letter word in their

[56:23] decision making vocabulary.

[56:24] And that word is no.

[56:26] And if you wanna be polite, you can add, sorry.

[56:28] In front of it.

[56:29] The developers are ruining Exeter's charm and heritage, and they should be encouraged to

[56:33] just pack up their tents and move their circus to another area and put

[56:36] their act on there.

[56:38] And I hope this board is gonna see this project as ill-advised the Exeter

[56:41] country club should be encouraged to come up with an alternative way to get

[56:44] themselves an upgraded club.

[56:46] Clubhouse the loss of property, including theirs is forever.

[56:50] And the ramifications to the town's infrastructure is permanent.

[56:55] The new clubhouse, well, commercial loan GoFundMe, maybe a deep pocket member and put

[56:59] a plaque on it with their name on it.

[57:00] Joe and Mary dokes.

[57:02] Dokes.I just hope they haven't cashed their check.

[57:05] And compromise their existence.

[57:07] Thank you.

[57:35] Good evening.

[57:36] My name is Doreen Chester and I reside at three Webster Ave.

[57:41] My home faces the Exeter country club, not in a butter, but faces.

[57:45] Faces and the proposed development would directly affect my quality of life and diminish

[57:50] the peaceful character of our close-knit neighborhood.

[57:54] I'm here this evening to state my objections to the pro proposal to construct

[57:59] 14 new single.

[58:00] Family homes on the current driving range.

[58:03] At extra country club,

[58:04] Webster Ave is a dead end road.

[58:07] And the road leading to the country club from JD hill and Webster avenues

[58:10] is very narrow.

[58:12] As somebody mentions, it's a trail and that's really all it is on the

[58:15] dirt road.

[58:16] To the country club, there is insufficient room for vehicles to pass safely.

[58:21] And there are mature trees, as someone mentioned and registered.

[58:25] Of which they would have to be removed.

[58:27] And I object to that.

[58:29] Exeter was recognized as part of tree, city USA.

[58:32] In 2019,

[58:34] I don't believe that they could hold that.

[58:37] Today

[58:38] trees.

[58:39] Provide privacy neighborhood character, and a sense of peace.

[58:43] They also serve essential environmental functions.

[58:47] Functions cleaning out air water, providing habits, habitat for wildlife.

[58:51] Connecting communities and supporting public health and wellbeing.

[58:55] For these reasons I object to further trees being removed from the neighborhood.

[59:00] I don't wanna look at the new houses.

[59:02] I would like to see the trees as they are now and provide the

[59:05] privacy that my neighbors across the street are used to.

[59:08] We already have seen the impact of extensive tree removal on Haven lane.

[59:14] Where green and company cleared out.

[59:15] Most of the trees.

[59:17] To build the townhomes as a result.

[59:19] Older homes on Haven lane.

[59:21] Now have an unobstructed view.

[59:24] Of Portsmouth avenue with increased exposure to traffic, noise and pollution.

[59:29] These new homes also significantly taller than existing homes.

[59:33] Homes and do not reflect the scale or character of the surrounding neighborhood.

[59:38] I'd like to know what the town will do to accommodate all the new

[59:42] traffic on Portsmouth avenue and the JD hill avenue.

[59:46] I've already,

[59:47] it's already unpleasant to drive on Portsmouth avenue at different times of the day

[59:51] And the new homes aren't even sold.

[59:54] I've not heard anything about.

[59:56] Upgrades to infrastructure on Portsmouth avenue with all the new building going on, both

[1:00:01] sides.

[1:00:03] I urge the planning board to evaluate.

[1:00:06] This proposal and others carefully.

[1:00:09] With particular attention to wetlands, mature trees.

[1:00:13] Traffic neighborhood scale.

[1:00:16] Children.

[1:00:17] And whether this level of development is appropriate for a small neighborhood, such as

[1:00:21] JD hill Ave.

[1:00:23] He'll live and Webster Ave.

[1:00:25] It is appropriate.

[1:00:26] For the board to say no, sometimes.

[1:00:29] Things that would create overcrowded development or buildings that do not fit Exodus character

[1:00:35] Frankly.

[1:00:36] I'd like to see.

[1:00:37] Town boards focus on really affordable housing.

[1:00:42] Instead of more multi-million dollar homes.

[1:00:44] Homes in Exeter.

[1:00:46] I respectfully request.

[1:00:48] That the planning board require any new homes to be.

[1:00:51] Compatible with existing homes, neighborhood context.

[1:00:55] Without careful oversight, exit or risks, losing the charm and character that makes it

[1:01:00] special.

[1:01:01] Thank you.

[1:01:10] Anyone else from the public like to speak.

[1:01:16] Okay.

[1:01:17] There will be additional times during this case for the public to speak.

[1:01:20] So, and I, I appreciate the respect.

[1:01:22] Everybody showed in their comments.

[1:01:24] Comments

[1:01:25] on the board.

[1:01:26] It's good to get input from the neighborhood.

[1:01:29] Everyone on this board has been here for at least a little while.

[1:01:32] Some many years.

[1:01:36] I, if you have seen any of our hearings, I think you know that

[1:01:38] I am right now surrounded by people that care a lot about trees up

[1:01:41] at this board.

[1:01:43] so.

[1:01:44] I think they care a lot.

[1:01:48] You know, I think we all share your.

[1:01:50] Concerns with any development that comes in front of us?

[1:01:52] One of the things that we have as a board have to deal with

[1:01:55] is.

[1:01:56] The right of the applicant.

[1:01:59] And the underlying landowner.

[1:02:01] And balancing those rights.

[1:02:04] Rights with our process.

[1:02:06] So I respect and appreciate you all.

[1:02:09] Understanding that at some level.

[1:02:11] And it, I think it can be confusing at times.

[1:02:14] There, if, if there's drainage issues on JD hill that are there today.

[1:02:18] You know, that's a, that's really an Exeter, a town of Exeter issue.

[1:02:22] A public works issue.

[1:02:24] Existing public works issue.

[1:02:26] It's not a.

[1:02:27] Golf course of Exeter Exeter golf course issue necessarily.

[1:02:32] They can't.

[1:02:33] Can't

[1:02:34] increase.

[1:02:36] Issues for the neighborhood.

[1:02:38] That's part of the regulation,

[1:02:39] but we don't have the right to make them fix.

[1:02:43] Drainage

[1:02:44] issues that are already.

[1:02:47] Existing.

[1:02:50] Can I respond to that?

[1:02:51] No, not right now.

[1:02:52] Okay.

[1:02:54] I'm trying to give you guys some perspective.

[1:02:56] You can not want to hear it.

[1:02:58] And that's okay.

[1:03:00] But I just wanna try to give you some perspective as to what we

[1:03:03] are here to do.

[1:03:04] Some of the comments that you brought up are I know very valid cuz

[1:03:08] I have friends in your neighborhood.

[1:03:11] This is not necessarily the format for it.

[1:03:13] It's good for us, you to bring it up, but for us to, I

[1:03:16] can't do anything and make public works.

[1:03:19] Take care of your, your neighborhood.

[1:03:21] That's just, we can only affect what is in front of us, which is

[1:03:24] an application with a specific property that happens to fall in your neighborhood, which

[1:03:28] is probably why you're here.

[1:03:30] And, you know, we all due respect.

[1:03:32] It's just, that's the challenges that we face.

[1:03:35] And we try to work with the community.

[1:03:36] We're part of your community.

[1:03:38] I can tell you if a neighborhood went in next to me and I'd

[1:03:42] lived somewhere for 70 plus years, without that.

[1:03:44] I wouldn't be too excited about it.

[1:03:46] I'm just being honest.

[1:03:48] But we have to balance that, you know what I mean?

[1:03:50] So,

[1:03:51] anyway,

[1:03:52] that being said, there's a developer.

[1:03:53] Want to make any more comments at this time?

[1:03:56] Yeah, I can actually I'll respond just at least to the drainage issue.

[1:04:05] Sure because it was something that we heard about or very early on.Yeah.

[1:04:05] We met with D P w.

[1:04:07] You know, before we even came to you for the design review.

[1:04:10] And it was something we heard about.

[1:04:11] They're aware that there are drainage issues out there.

[1:04:15] So that was something we kept in mind heavily when we did our drainage

[1:04:18] design.

[1:04:18] And not only is it something we kept in mind, but it's something we're

[1:04:21] required to do.

[1:04:23] So when we're looking at the drainage, we're actually looking at the entire watershed

[1:04:26] of what affects our property.

[1:04:29] So we looked at not only.

[1:04:31] I'm not sure what happened there.

[1:04:33] We looked at not only what's occurring right here, but we looked at the

[1:04:36] drainage.

[1:04:37] That's coming onto us from this side.

[1:04:40] And from here coming onto JD hill Ave.

[1:04:42] So, and obviously as we heard from the neighbors and as we know.

[1:04:46] From our study, that's quite a bit of runoff.

[1:04:49] So that's why, when we did our drainage design, we were able to.

[1:04:52] Adjust the drainage in this area.

[1:04:55] And also design it so that we're collecting the drainage.

[1:04:57] That's coming down this hill.

[1:05:00] Some of what's coming toward us from JD hill Ave this way and bringing

[1:05:03] it all into our drainage system to hopefully address some of those issues.

[1:05:08] Issues that are occurring today, even though it's not being caused by our development

[1:05:12] And in addition to that, we're also required to make sure that we are

[1:05:15] collect.

[1:05:16] Collecting and treating and managing the peak flow from our development so that it's

[1:05:21] not exacerbating the current problem.

[1:05:24] You wanna say that one again, please?

[1:05:25] We're required to collect.

[1:05:27] And treat not only for water quality.

[1:05:31] But control the runoff from our development.

[1:05:33] So that's what we run in our calculations.

[1:05:36] For very large storm events up to even a hundred year storm event.

[1:05:40] Thank you.

[1:05:41] So

[1:05:42] a lot of what we're talking about here.

[1:05:44] And a lot of what was brought up by the neighborhood are things that

[1:05:46] generally will happen, which is, you know, traffic flow.

[1:05:50] Stormwater drainage.

[1:05:53] Impact on the neighborhood.

[1:05:55] One of the, one of the real challenges that.

[1:05:58] We face in this community and every community is the housing.

[1:06:03] Shortage.

[1:06:05] You know,

[1:06:06] I'm in the industry.

[1:06:08] Affordable housing.

[1:06:10] It's not a lot of affordable housing in accident, period.

[1:06:12] I mean, that's just reality.

[1:06:14] I have three young boys and good luck.

[1:06:17] Right now.

[1:06:17] I mean, it's, it's really sad, but it's what we all face.

[1:06:21] The other challenge that really affordable housing comes down to for everybody here is

[1:06:25] density issue.

[1:06:26] .

[1:06:27] You know,

[1:06:29] if you want affordable house and you get a lot, you gotta allow apartments

[1:06:32] Bottom line.

[1:06:34] Right.

[1:06:34] And, and who wants those?

[1:06:35] Would you guys rather see 200 apartments right there because that's affordable housing.

[1:06:40] Well, then you're, it is a unique.

[1:06:42] As you could be.

[1:06:43] And I appreciate that.

[1:06:45] But it's, you know, it's a, it's a real, it truly is a real

[1:06:48] challenge.

[1:06:50] And that is one of the big issues,

[1:06:52] cuz you know,

[1:06:53] 200

[1:06:55] residents bringing cars in and out of that site would be different than 14

[1:06:58] households.

[1:07:00] Households, but, you know, will it be affordable?

[1:07:01] I mean, cost of construction these days, if anybody's done a renovation lately, it's

[1:07:06] really almost double every time.

[1:07:08] You try to do something it's twice what you think it's gonna be.

[1:07:10] So what makes it very difficult for anything to get built new and be

[1:07:15] Affordable.

[1:07:15] That's just economics.

[1:07:17] Economics.That's not any particular developer's issue or anything else.

[1:07:22] But it is a true community challenge.

[1:07:25] So

[1:07:26] probably makes sense to figure out a site walk.

[1:07:29] Sidewalk time and date and we'll continue.

[1:07:30] I just make a comment, please for Mr. Yeah.

[1:07:33] Acting chair.

[1:07:34] So just some of the comments were beyond.

[1:07:37] What is kind of what the planning board will, will look at.

[1:07:41] I encourage you to do two things.

[1:07:43] Come to this luck board meetings, public comment.

[1:07:46] Is typically right at the very beginning of those meetings, we have one coming

[1:07:50] up on Monday night.

[1:07:51] I know that might be a little soon.

[1:07:53] For for you to, but please, I mean, and you can reach out to

[1:07:58] the tell manager who can direct you.

[1:08:01] There are so many things I can respond to, but I'm not gonna do

[1:08:03] it here, but there's a lot of stuff you need to understand.

[1:08:06] You need to follow like budget process and stuff.

[1:08:09] But please reach

[1:08:10] good because the CIP P.

[1:08:12] Portsmouth AV is in there.

[1:08:15] But could you please reach out to the town manager who will then,

[1:08:18] and he responded back.

[1:08:20] Yes.

[1:08:21] And

[1:08:22] gave you to D P w.

[1:08:24] Yep.

[1:08:24] And they first came out.

[1:08:26] Good then, then that's all about all we can do.

[1:08:28] They're gonna tell you what's what and okay.

[1:08:30] Thank you.

[1:08:31] I just wanted to, but literally.

[1:08:34] You know, I understand.

[1:08:36] I grew up in Exeter.

[1:08:38] I grew up playing in streets.

[1:08:39] That's just kind of.

[1:08:41] Not

[1:08:43] kind of what

[1:08:44] is safe anymore these days, but.

[1:08:47] That again, come to the select board.

[1:08:50] We will hear you.

[1:08:51] We don't have a back and forth during public comment.

[1:08:54] But we'll hear you.

[1:08:55] And.

[1:08:56] Maybe direct you to the departments that you need to have a conversation with

[1:09:00] to understand process.

[1:09:02] Thank you.

[1:09:05] Anybody else on the board wanna make a comment at this time?

[1:09:08] I just have a question.

[1:09:08] Yeah, if that's okay.

[1:09:10] About the yield plan,

[1:09:12] I just wanna clarify.

[1:09:14] Because we don't look at.

[1:09:16] These that often.

[1:09:17] And I, I just wanna make sure I'm understanding it properly.

[1:09:21] The lot, one

[1:09:24] looks like it has

[1:09:27] a 20 foot wide utility easement.

[1:09:29] Paige.

[1:09:29] Can you point to lot one?

[1:09:30] Yes, please.

[1:09:31] Thank you.

[1:09:33] So that hatched area is a 20 foot wide utility easement.

[1:09:41] So I'm assuming you can't technically build a house on that easement or isthat.

[1:09:41] Yeah.

[1:09:42] So it's the same as what you'll see on our.

[1:09:46] Cluster subdivision plan.

[1:09:46] So that is currently where the overhead power runs out to.

[1:09:51] The maintenance building that they have out there.

[1:09:54] So that utility line will actually be moved as part of the project.

[1:09:57] So that same utility easement would affect our current lot.

[1:10:01] I can't even.

[1:10:02] See that from here.

[1:10:02] Look, I guess that's lot 14 one.

[1:10:06] Is the proposal to actually get that easement.

[1:10:10] Adjusted as well.

[1:10:11] Yes.

[1:10:14] Yes.

[1:10:14] Yeah.

[1:10:15] The utility line will run up the.

[1:10:18] It's the dog stuff.

[1:10:19] The utility line.

[1:10:21] Is it this top one, the top one?

[1:10:22] Yep.

[1:10:24] This utility line will actually run down the road.

[1:10:28] And up that sideline.

[1:10:30] Back to that and reconnect to the power line.

[1:10:33] So that entire easement will be gone.

[1:10:36] Okay.

[1:10:36] So would you mind going to the yield plan?

[1:10:39] I think this is the subdivision plan.

[1:10:40] Thank you.

[1:10:41] So the lot I was concerned about is lot one.

[1:10:44] Yes.

[1:10:44] Just because it looks like once you get the setbacks in there and everything

[1:10:47] there's really almost no.

[1:10:49] Room to build a house.

[1:10:50] And I'm wondering what the, if, if that's really a viable lot as we're

[1:10:54] looking at it it's so once the easement wasn't moved.

[1:10:57] Removed then it would be, it would be with, with the easement there.

[1:10:59] Of course it wouldn't.

[1:11:00] But with, because we're planning on removing it in either case.

[1:11:04] We we see that as a viable lot.

[1:11:07] And does the, well, this might be a Dave Sharpe's question, but does the

[1:11:10] planning part have any, do we need to see the easement relocation?

[1:11:15] Is that like part of the subdivision?

[1:11:16] Oh yeah.

[1:11:16] Okay.

[1:11:17] That's what I thought.

[1:11:17] All right.

[1:11:18] Yeah, it would.

[1:11:19] Which really should be part of the yield plan consideration, frankly.

[1:11:23] Right?

[1:11:23] Because this is, that is definitely critical to that law.

[1:11:29] The other

[1:11:31] question I had was.

[1:11:33] Really for Paige is

[1:11:36] can you describe again, the proposed easement to benefit Exeter country club.

[1:11:42] Yes.

[1:11:42] So if you look at the existing conditions plan, well, it's actually pretty hard

[1:11:46] to see cuz there's quite a few lines on here.

[1:11:48] Is that, is that the third?

[1:11:50] Hole.

[1:11:50] Yes.

[1:11:51] Yep.

[1:11:52] So you'll see the cart path comes up.

[1:11:53] Yeah.

[1:11:54] There's kind of this looped situation happening.

[1:11:57] With the cart path and then the tee box is up in this area

[1:12:02] So they plan to keep that just exactly as it is within the open

[1:12:05] space.

[1:12:05] And that's why on our easement plan, we show that proposed easement, which encompasses

[1:12:10] The cart paths as well as that tee box.

[1:12:13] All right.

[1:12:14] So that's it.

[1:12:16] Definitely creative way.

[1:12:18] To still accommodate the golf course.

[1:12:23] And included in the yield plan.

[1:12:24] I, I I'd be interested in seeing calculations without that, cuz it.

[1:12:29] It just seems a little mucky to me.

[1:12:33] With this land being transferred.

[1:12:35] Yeah.

[1:12:36] So I think on, I mean, we, we definitely could show it on the

[1:12:38] yield plan.

[1:12:39] Yeah.

[1:12:39] Because it's basically right in this area.

[1:12:42] So

[1:12:43] the developable area on, I think that's lot seven.

[1:12:46] Is actually up in this area.

[1:12:47] Mm-hmm so we don't see that as being, you know, taking away from

[1:12:51] that long.

[1:12:51] How does it affect your necessary.

[1:12:54] Conservation land total, the open space calculations.

[1:12:57] Yeah.

[1:12:58] It's do you know,

[1:12:59] I can't see that far.

[1:13:00] So let me see what the square footage is of it.

[1:13:02] And I'm putting you on the spot.

[1:13:03] You don't need to come up with that tonight.

[1:13:04] It's not until end of the end of the hearing or.

[1:13:06] Anything,

[1:13:07] but that's something that I would want to see.

[1:13:09] Okay.

[1:13:09] Yeah, we can, we can run that calculation.

[1:13:11] That'd be great.

[1:13:11] It's just about an acre of space.

[1:13:13] Okay.

[1:13:15] And there's no consideration for just doing a lot line adjustment on that.

[1:13:19] We were including it because it's part of the 10 acres that is currently

[1:13:24] Outside of the conservation

[1:13:25] land.

[1:13:27] That they plant to purchase.

[1:13:28] So that's why we didn't do it that way.

[1:13:30] It just seems a little bit, I'm trying to look down the road.

[1:13:34] These are built, whatever gets built.

[1:13:37] Probably not 200 empowerments, but.

[1:13:40] Some number of homes.

[1:13:42] Homes.And

[1:13:43] now you have an association.

[1:13:46] Claton neighborhood.

[1:13:48] With this easement that he deals with a golf course.

[1:13:52] Someone has damage to them on that.

[1:13:55] Land

[1:13:55] that they own.

[1:13:57] And they've got this permitted use there.

[1:13:59] Mm-hmm they're gonna be liable.

[1:14:02] It just, it's not clean.

[1:14:03] Mm-hmm do you know what I'm saying?

[1:14:04] If there's a way to do it.

[1:14:06] It would be, I would encourage you to explore it.

[1:14:09] Okay.

[1:14:09] Fee simple ownership in general, a situation like this to me with very different

[1:14:13] uses.

[1:14:13] Yes.

[1:14:14] I understand it's recreation, but it's.

[1:14:16] It's it's, it's a commercial enterprise, a golf course.

[1:14:20] Okay.

[1:14:20] Yeah.

[1:14:20] And it's gonna be separate ownership.

[1:14:23] You know what I mean?

[1:14:25] Mm-hmm .

[1:14:26] So if there's a way to consider that, I know that's.

[1:14:30] That's not what you're looking at right now, but I would encourage.

[1:14:34] Did, did you have anything else at this point or?

[1:14:36] No?

[1:14:37] Regarding

[1:14:39] no.

[1:14:40] No.

[1:14:41] Anything's well, I do have a few.

[1:14:42] Yeah, I have a few and I'll try to keep it brief cuz I

[1:14:45] know we still need to do the sidewalk, but I have.

[1:14:48] A hard time with a few things.

[1:14:50] I'm still struggling with Jen's question about lot one.

[1:14:53] And I guess if you're gonna do a yield plan and you're not gonna

[1:14:56] be.

[1:14:56] Having the easement.

[1:14:59] And also your current concurrent conditions, but can you reposition.

[1:15:05] The

[1:15:06] building envelope.

[1:15:08] Where it would be.

[1:15:10] V. I don't see how you're gonna change that.

[1:15:13] So where it is currently cause it's 20, it's like 25 feet wide

[1:15:17] on the frontage.

[1:15:18] Of your road, your driveway in it's very narrow.

[1:15:23] So the buildable envelope, it's hard to see on this plan, but it, it

[1:15:26] goes basically over the easement because it's like as if the easement one there

[1:15:30] Yeah.

[1:15:30] I see that.

[1:15:31] I see.

[1:15:31] That.Yeah.

[1:15:31] So that, that area is wide enough for a house.

[1:15:34] I mean, we could probably show.

[1:15:36] We could show like a house on that, on that lot.

[1:15:40] On the revised.

[1:15:40] This seems like really tiny to me, but if you can do it.

[1:15:47] That'd be great.

[1:15:47] I also don't see the building envelope for lot eight.

[1:15:50] And

[1:15:51] I'm a little worried because you have lots of wetlands buffers.

[1:15:56] Buffers.

[1:15:57] It's not pictured on my plan set anyway, unless.

[1:16:02] I see a, I see what looks like it might be, but it goes

[1:16:05] into lot seven if, unless I'm misinterpret.

[1:16:09] Misinterpreting.

[1:16:09] So, yeah, so lot seven is here.

[1:16:11] Yeah.

[1:16:12] Lot eight is here.

[1:16:13] Can you, can you kind of outline where you are?

[1:16:17] Expecting a, a building site on lot eight on lot eight on lot eight

[1:16:21] Yes.

[1:16:22] Right.

[1:16:23] Here.

[1:16:25] wow.

[1:16:27] Okay.

[1:16:27] And you've got like 300 feet of roadway to get into it and crossing

[1:16:32] over a wetland.

[1:16:33] Yes, that would be the driveway for lot eight.

[1:16:35] Okay.

[1:16:36] Not crazy about that either.

[1:16:39] That would be a very, it looks, I think, deceiving on the plan, but

[1:16:42] that would be a very minor wetland crossing, cuz that's only about a 12

[1:16:46] foot wide driveway.

[1:16:47] Because it's only for the single family home.

[1:16:50] It's just a lot of pavement and.

[1:16:53] Wetland crossing.

[1:16:54] I'm I'm just not, I'm not excited about that one.

[1:16:58] Well, again, on this one, Gwen, it's a yield point.

[1:17:01] I know it is, but we have to, we have to determine it's that

[1:17:04] it's a viable.

[1:17:04] Correct.

[1:17:05] And that we would, would approve it if this were to go through, right

[1:17:08] Yes.

[1:17:09] Yeah.

[1:17:10] So I'm just saying I, I have, yeah, I have concerns about that one

[1:17:17] In in your letter.

[1:17:20] In your letter.

[1:17:22] I guess it was in your Jones and beach introductory letter.

[1:17:25] You mentioned a

[1:17:28] stream channel.

[1:17:28] It was on the 7 28, 26.

[1:17:30] Yes.

[1:17:31] Ladder on page one.

[1:17:33] Where is the, is the street stream channel that you described?

[1:17:36] I think it's supposed to be on the Western side of the property.

[1:17:40] So I think there was a little bit of confusion.

[1:17:42] Kristen brought that to my attention as well.

[1:17:44] So really what it is is there's this wetland area on this side of

[1:17:48] the property.

[1:17:48] It's all one wetland that's connected, but what it is is that there's an

[1:17:52] intermittent stream channel that runs down from this wetland.

[1:17:56] To this lower wetland and then eventually into the river.

[1:17:59] But that is an intermittent stream.

[1:18:01] So because of that, it doesn't qualify for the Shoreland.

[1:18:04] District.

[1:18:05] Okay.

[1:18:06] I thought it was maybe over, closer to.

[1:18:09] Set on the Western side of the property.

[1:18:10] So I assumed it was over near the.

[1:18:15] Closer to the roadway, your entrance way.

[1:18:18] No, that is that's the only area I think the, the way that it

[1:18:21] was described in the letter was just a little bit unclear.

[1:18:23] Cause Kristen had the same question for me, so, oh, okay.

[1:18:28] On the south end south property line, there are two.

[1:18:31] Squares.

[1:18:32] One's a rectangular

[1:18:34] area

[1:18:34] on lot 14.

[1:18:35] And the other one is.

[1:18:37] Kind of on

[1:18:39] Doug Eastman's property.

[1:18:41] And lot

[1:18:42] 10.

[1:18:43] What is that?

[1:18:45] It's a little box it's right on the property shed, right?

[1:18:48] Is that

[1:18:50] it shows it's partly on.

[1:18:52] The, on your property.

[1:18:54] That, that one, that one there and then to the right, that one.

[1:18:58] Yeah.

[1:18:58] What are those?

[1:18:59] I think, I think that's Doug's shed.

[1:19:00] Yeah,

[1:19:02] maybe he can.

[1:19:03] Answer what it is.

[1:19:03] Oh, okay.

[1:19:05] And the other one is on the left is.

[1:19:09] That's his, yeah, that's that's on your that's on lock 14.

[1:19:15] I'm just curious.

[1:19:16] Can I answer it's up to the chair to sure.

[1:19:22] Greg McCarthy four Webster, a.

[1:19:24] Ave.

[1:19:25] There's nothing there.

[1:19:26] It shows up.

[1:19:27] It's on my it's on the paperwork I got.

[1:19:30] When I closed down the house.

[1:19:31] It's on all of.

[1:19:33] These charts, there used to be something there.

[1:19:36] The foundation blocks are still in place, and apparently there was a brick central

[1:19:40] chimney.

[1:19:41] Someone mentioned

[1:19:44] a former gun club.

[1:19:46] I don't know.

[1:19:47] I don't it's it's nothing.

[1:19:48] Okay.

[1:19:48] There is no building there.

[1:19:50] Okay.

[1:19:50] It is in the tree line and according to my deed,

[1:19:54] it

[1:19:55] is probably mine.

[1:19:56] I don't know.

[1:19:58] Okay, thank you.

[1:19:58] Our surveyors called it out as remnants of old brick structure.

[1:20:02] Yeah.

[1:20:02] Oh, okay.

[1:20:04] Something all right.

[1:20:07] You're gonna mark your 20.

[1:20:09] Inch and over trees on their plans.

[1:20:11] Yes.

[1:20:11] Yes, we did locate them, please.

[1:20:13] We just have to.

[1:20:15] Update the plan.

[1:20:17] Okay.

[1:20:21] Let me just see if there are any other questions that would be helpful

[1:20:25] Are you putting in curbing?

[1:20:28] Particularly on the

[1:20:30] I don't, I'm not an engineer, but it seems like on the Eastern side

[1:20:33] of your entrance road to direct the water.

[1:20:37] Into.

[1:20:38] Yeah, so we actually have curbing currently on the Western side, we actually.

[1:20:43] Purposely

[1:20:44] designed it that way to.

[1:20:46] Have the runoff not go toward those abutters it's on the Western side.

[1:20:51] Yeah.

[1:20:52] It seems like the Eastern side would be.

[1:20:54] Yeah, we actually super elevated the roadway to go the other way to keep

[1:20:58] the runoff away from the neighbors.

[1:21:00] Oh, oh.

[1:21:00] Oh.

[1:21:01] So that'll get regraded.

[1:21:03] And then we do have some curbing coming in.

[1:21:05] That design is going to be revised slightly based on some comments we received

[1:21:09] at the TRC.

[1:21:10] So there may be additional curbing added in the next revision that you can

[1:21:13] see.

[1:21:14] Okay, but not removed, not removed.

[1:21:16] No.

[1:21:17] Basically, we have some sections of the roadway super elevated that D P w

[1:21:21] would prefer to see crowned.

[1:21:22] So we're going to revise that to be crowned, which may result in more

[1:21:25] Carbon.

[1:21:26] Okay.

[1:21:27] Thank you.

[1:21:29] And

[1:21:31] typically with a development of this site.

[1:21:33] I mean,

[1:21:35] I don't

[1:21:37] don't there's there's.

[1:21:39] Provision for some kind of recreation area for.

[1:21:43] Families in this

[1:21:45] proposed development.

[1:21:46] I know you've got a golf course around you, but is there.

[1:21:51] I'm thinking of the existing neighborhood and where these kids are going to play

[1:21:56] Where your kid's going to play and maybe they can include.

[1:22:01] The existing neighborhood.

[1:22:02] Is there any area that is sort of designated.

[1:22:08] For like a, your community.

[1:22:11] Right now we have the proposed open space and we also have the, the

[1:22:15] cart path, which provides the access to.

[1:22:18] The conservation land that's surrounding.

[1:22:20] We don't have any designated.

[1:22:22] Recreation area, but we can, we can think about that.

[1:22:24] Oh, nothing, nothing on site.

[1:22:25] We also do have the middle of the cul-de-sac, which is currently just a

[1:22:29] grass area.

[1:22:29] So that could.

[1:22:30] Be something could be done there.

[1:22:31] Mm-hmm

[1:22:32] I have some thoughts about that too, but .

[1:22:36] Definitely an opportunity.

[1:22:38] Yes with this project to do that.

[1:22:40] Yeah.

[1:22:41] Absolutely.

[1:22:43] Am I certainly I to address the neighbors, I.

[1:22:47] I, I, I sympathize with all of you and I, I, I.

[1:22:52] Recognize that there

[1:22:54] our developments that we've approved.

[1:22:57] That

[1:22:58] we haven't had any way to.

[1:23:01] Control whether or not they've fit into the

[1:23:04] existing neighborhoods or not.

[1:23:07] I would just certainly like to see an attempt made to make this feel

[1:23:10] like it's part of.

[1:23:12] The existing neighborhood.

[1:23:15] And again, we can't

[1:23:17] can't we can't dictate whether it's affordable or not.

[1:23:19] I wish we could, but.

[1:23:22] That's

[1:23:22] developers.

[1:23:24] Are there to make money and.

[1:23:26] Money drives the boat.

[1:23:27] Doesn't it.

[1:23:28] Unfortunately.

[1:23:29] But I, my heart goes out too.

[1:23:32] I've I've dealt with this.

[1:23:33] So I , I can appreciate where you're all coming from.

[1:23:38] And there are, we are still a tree city.

[1:23:41] And we are working very hard to, yes.

[1:23:43] Keep that going.

[1:23:44] We've we've gotten.

[1:23:46] Lots of accolades for the work that we've done.

[1:23:49] And we continue to try to.

[1:23:52] Increase the canopy in town because we realize that a lot has been taken

[1:23:55] away over the years.

[1:23:56] And we're trying very hard to.

[1:23:59] Plant as much as we can.

[1:24:00] So I'm glad you brought that up.

[1:24:02] .

[1:24:05] I'll leave it.

[1:24:06] I'll leave it at that for now.

[1:24:11] Sam you're on the board, man.

[1:24:12] What's going on?

[1:24:14] Soaking it all in.

[1:24:15] Yeah.

[1:24:17] Smart man.

[1:24:18] Wife is soaking .

[1:24:21] Wrong with that.

[1:24:21] You don't have anything at this time.

[1:24:23] You sure.

[1:24:25] My, my thoughts are.

[1:24:28] When

[1:24:29] the next to last house on JD hill road was for sale seven or

[1:24:33] eight years ago.

[1:24:35] I was one of the guys that looked at it.

[1:24:37] I did not end up owning it, but at the very unique neighborhood,

[1:24:41] and so I have some sympathy.

[1:24:43] It is very attractive.

[1:24:47] I have a hard time.

[1:24:49] Visualizing

[1:24:51] how this development

[1:24:54] can replace the

[1:24:57] what's the word I want the, the charm that's there now.

[1:25:03] But a sidewalk, some further meetings.

[1:25:06] Meetings.I'll have more to say later,

[1:25:08] but, but I have reservations.

[1:25:09] Yeah.

[1:25:11] Thanks.Yeah.

[1:25:11] Thanks for letting me put you on the spot.

[1:25:13] Okay.

[1:25:13] .

[1:25:16] Let's try to get a sidewalk schedule.

[1:25:25] Yeah.

[1:25:25] So I don't know if.

[1:25:27] It's possible to have the site walk prior to our meeting with the conservation

[1:25:31] commission, because that way we could see if Kristen could invite them as well

[1:25:34] When's that?

[1:25:35] We meet with them on October 13th, October 13th.

[1:25:39] Mm-hmm I think so.

[1:25:41] We certainly hope so.

[1:25:43] I hope so.

[1:25:48] You're meeting them on the 13th.

[1:25:51] Mr chairman.

[1:25:52] Yeah, I'll be out of town until the seventh.

[1:25:55] Of October.

[1:25:56] Yeah.

[1:25:57] Okay.

[1:25:58] So we're gonna do it on the seventh.

[1:26:00] No.

[1:26:01] So we gotta do it before the seventh.

[1:26:02] We can do it.

[1:26:04] Could we do it on the 13th right before.

[1:26:06] The meeting is that possible?

[1:26:09] 13th is a Tuesday.

[1:26:11] I'll be out of town that week.

[1:26:12] Nope.

[1:26:13] .

[1:26:14] Ah, see, but we can't, I mean, I, I can walk the site on

[1:26:17] my own.

[1:26:19] Take some golf balls up.

[1:26:20] .

[1:26:22] careful.

[1:26:25] What I mean, you're out that, how about that whole week?

[1:26:28] Yeah, that whole week.

[1:26:29] Yeah.

[1:26:30] Right there on the eighth.

[1:26:30] Yep.

[1:26:31] What, what about the eighth?

[1:26:32] They're on the eighth.

[1:26:32] Yep.

[1:26:33] Eighth, the ninth, eighth.

[1:26:38] I can do it as well.

[1:26:38] It's in the morning.

[1:26:40] Eight is a meeting day, too, for us.

[1:26:42] It is, it is at seven o'clock that night.

[1:26:44] Those are always usually good days.

[1:26:47] I think,

[1:26:48] I think.

[1:26:48] We have an MTOC meeting then.

[1:26:51] Right that I was thrown out.

[1:26:53] Well, that day confirmed by the other guy.

[1:26:55] Who'll be there right there.

[1:26:57] I scheduled.

[1:26:58] So I guess it's.

[1:26:59] It's flexible.

[1:26:59] We can move that easily.

[1:27:00] You can do.

[1:27:01] Yeah.

[1:27:02] Because you usually do.

[1:27:03] 'em what at eight.

[1:27:05] Yeah.

[1:27:05] Last time we talked.

[1:27:06] So we usually try to do the sidewalks in the morning.

[1:27:08] We don't last time I couldn't get back in time to get that's why

[1:27:12] I missed it.

[1:27:12] Oh,

[1:27:13] wow.

[1:27:13] What time would work for you on the eighth?

[1:27:15] Eight o'clock eight.

[1:27:18] Thank you.

[1:27:18] Yeah,

[1:27:19] go back.

[1:27:20] Sorry.

[1:27:20] I'm back.

[1:27:21] Can make the eighth.

[1:27:24] At eight.

[1:27:24] Yes.

[1:27:26] Yep.

[1:27:27] We'll just redo our, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[1:27:29] Okay.

[1:27:29] Jen, you can do that one.

[1:27:30] Yep.

[1:27:32] Am on the eighth that works for us.

[1:27:37] Yeah.What would the board like to see staked out the sidewalk, the road center

[1:27:41] line.

[1:27:42] Yeah, I think would be.

[1:27:46] Center of the cul-de-sac yeah, yeah.

[1:27:49] Maybe road center line, so right to it.

[1:27:52] Probably that easement.

[1:27:54] And

[1:27:56] the some area, just the box easement.

[1:27:58] The easement on the edge way.

[1:27:59] It's pretty obvious.

[1:28:00] I'm sure.

[1:28:01] But just be whoever's.

[1:28:03] Whoever's there for your group,

[1:28:04] able to tell us, show us where that is.

[1:28:07] Do you mean the utilities meant?

[1:28:08] Yeah.

[1:28:09] Okay.

[1:28:09] Oh, utilities, utilities, utilities.

[1:28:11] Were coming in while the tea box one's gonna be off, that's gonna be

[1:28:14] the telephone pole line.

[1:28:15] Yeah, that'll be that's.

[1:28:16] That's fine.

[1:28:16] Marked just so are you looking, looking for the.

[1:28:20] Tee box.

[1:28:20] Yeah.

[1:28:21] I I'd like to see the boundary lines on that.

[1:28:23] Okay.

[1:28:25] And maybe the limit, a cut on the, yeah.

[1:28:28] You know, on the outside of the subdivision.

[1:28:30] So get a sense of.

[1:28:31] Okay.

[1:28:32] And if you had time take place, if you had time to propose a

[1:28:35] recreation area beyond what you've shown so far, there's a bit of a time

[1:28:39] lapse.

[1:28:40] Maybe that if you have an area, even if you're still in the design

[1:28:44] stages, you know what I mean?

[1:28:45] Mm-hmm like where you think it might work.

[1:28:47] Okay.

[1:28:47] Yeah.

[1:28:48] Using the conservation.

[1:28:51] Where the wildlife is, is probably not.

[1:28:55] That didn't excite me at all.

[1:28:56] Okay.

[1:28:57] Just, just, I'm being honest that that's for the wildlife and things.

[1:29:00] We can walk there, but.

[1:29:02] To to think that

[1:29:05] recreation is not

[1:29:07] okay.

[1:29:11] I agree.

[1:29:14] I don't think there's anything else other than.

[1:29:18] Maybe, you know, being able, it's nothing to really mark, but just being able

[1:29:22] to talk as with us further about.

[1:29:25] Your drainage.

[1:29:27] Yes, that's the big one.

[1:29:29] Yeah, I think when we go out there, we can start, you know,

[1:29:33] up near the intersection.

[1:29:34] Yeah.

[1:29:34] Oh.

[1:29:35] So we can take a look at that drainage and see how it's all

[1:29:37] gonna function.

[1:29:39] Yes, we do usually talk about where we're gonna park.

[1:29:41] Do we park at the golf course.

[1:29:43] You think?

[1:29:43] I mean, there.

[1:29:45] You have a lot of parking

[1:29:46] in the morning.

[1:29:46] Yeah,

[1:29:47] it should.

[1:29:48] It shouldn't be anybody there at that point.

[1:29:50] That's plea golf pretty

[1:29:52] right.

[1:29:52] Yeah.

[1:29:53] They.

[1:29:54] Dot sunrise really a little later.

[1:29:57] maybe mark off and air will, but I could be wrong park or

[1:29:59] something.

[1:30:00] Okay.

[1:30:01] Would we have our

[1:30:03] TRC responses by then?

[1:30:06] By October 8th.

[1:30:07] So what, when do we, no.

[1:30:09] Is it the eighth?

[1:30:09] Yes.

[1:30:09] The eighth.

[1:30:10] Sorry.

[1:30:11] I would, yeah, I would think so.

[1:30:12] What's the date is.

[1:30:14] There a deadline to resubmit.

[1:30:16] Yeah.I mean, you're probably gonna table it till what?

[1:30:18] The 22nd.

[1:30:18] Yeah.

[1:30:19] October 22nd meeting.

[1:30:20] Well, we've got that far yet so that the deadline would be like the

[1:30:22] 15th.

[1:30:23] Yeah.

[1:30:23] You should be able, I mean, should.

[1:30:24] Be able to do that.

[1:30:25] Yeah, we can, we can try to get both then it's just helpful to

[1:30:27] have the responses.

[1:30:28] So grant me questions based on those.

[1:30:30] Yeah.

[1:30:30] I mean, it's only.

[1:30:32] September 10th.

[1:30:33] So I think that's doable for sure.

[1:30:37] Have you already done a sidewalk with conservation?

[1:30:40] We have not, no, that's why we're trying to do it

[1:30:42] a joint.

[1:30:42] So yeah.

[1:30:43] Feel free.

[1:30:44] To invite them to the same one.

[1:30:47] Okay.If that works,

[1:30:48] we've done that before.

[1:30:49] Works fine for us.

[1:30:52] So it's October 8th at 8:00 AM. The public is welcome.

[1:30:56] Mm-hmm , public's encouraged to come oh, with my calendar already.

[1:31:00] All right.

[1:31:01] .

[1:31:02] I can't really ask you guys if you can make it, but if you

[1:31:04] can, it would be helpful.

[1:31:05] It's it's on both calendars.

[1:31:06] All right.

[1:31:07] Personal.

[1:31:08] We're good.

[1:31:08] There you go.

[1:31:09] And letter to.

[1:31:10] The select board chair.

[1:31:11] Yes, sooner than later, please.

[1:31:15] Okay.

[1:31:16] One, you hit something.

[1:31:17] Just one quick question.

[1:31:21] Well, yeah, I think they'll continue us

[1:31:24] determine the date.

[1:31:25] Go ahead, Olivia, on your, on your original yield plan.

[1:31:30] On the Eastern side of the property.

[1:31:32] There's

[1:31:35] the dotted line that goes from the Stonewall to the edge.

[1:31:40] It's a, it's a, it's kind of in the middle of that big, clear

[1:31:42] space, which is your golf course.

[1:31:45] The dotted

[1:31:46] right.

[1:31:48] Right down a little bit.

[1:31:48] It goes horizontal.

[1:31:50] That one on the original yield plan you had.

[1:31:54] A proposed

[1:31:55] property line that came down.

[1:31:57] It was kind of squared off conservation.

[1:32:00] What happened with that?

[1:32:02] That's conservation,

[1:32:03] I think.

[1:32:04] Yeah, I think so that, that line currently is the limit of the conservation

[1:32:09] Easement, but I think, I think I don't have with me, but I think

[1:32:12] what it was was originally we had a slightly different.

[1:32:16] It was like,

[1:32:17] here's the, can you see that?

[1:32:19] Yes.

[1:32:19] And it was a line that.

[1:32:22] Was like you changed the property line?

[1:32:24] Yeah, I think originally we weren't sure how much of the property we were

[1:32:28] going to be getting from.

[1:32:30] The country club.

[1:32:30] So that was revised with our latest provision.

[1:32:33] Okay.

[1:32:33] But this is follow the road accurate because otherwise it was kind of just

[1:32:36] a little excess piece of plan.

[1:32:38] It's kind.

[1:32:39] We just knew the road was gonna be in that, that rectangle.

[1:32:42] Yeah.

[1:32:42] That you're you were pointing to on your plan.

[1:32:44] And we just only took what we needed.

[1:32:46] Okay.

[1:32:46] And left the rest of the golf.

[1:32:47] Okay.

[1:32:48] Okay.

[1:32:48] So I can ignore that.

[1:32:49] All right.

[1:32:52] Thanks.

[1:32:53] So I think I'm looking for a motion.

[1:32:59] Both table to

[1:33:01] continue, whatever it is.

[1:33:02] Go. Yeah.

[1:33:03] What was the date, Mr. Sharples, that you suggested we table at 22nd,

[1:33:08] October 22nd.

[1:33:09] Okay.

[1:33:10] Second.

[1:33:10] Yep.

[1:33:10] No AK room seven.

[1:33:11] That'll work for you guys.

[1:33:13] That does.

[1:33:13] Yeah, that works well.

[1:33:14] So that it's after the sidewalk.

[1:33:16] Yeah.

[1:33:17] And the concrete make,

[1:33:20] I'll give it a shot.

[1:33:21] I moved that weed table.

[1:33:24] Planning board.

[1:33:26] Case number 26 dash 14.

[1:33:30] To our October 22nd, 2026.

[1:33:34] Meeting here in the no back room at 7:00 PM.

[1:33:39] Second.

[1:33:40] Any discussion,

[1:33:43] all those in favor.

[1:33:44] Aye.

[1:33:45] Yes.

[1:33:46] Pensions opposed.

[1:33:49] Thank you cabled.

[1:33:50] Thank you.

[1:33:52] Thank you very much.

[1:33:53] Yeah.

[1:33:54] Thanks for coming.

[1:33:56] Mr.

[1:33:58] Yes,

[1:34:01] I'm sorry.

[1:34:03] You wanna leave?

[1:34:04] No,

[1:34:05] that's okay.

[1:34:07] Yeah, I know that.

[1:34:09] Look a little.

[1:34:14] Oh, boy, I, I,

[1:34:16] you look pretty close

[1:34:19] elevator.

[1:34:20] You okay to drive?

[1:34:21] Yeah.

[1:34:21] Yeah, yeah.

[1:34:23] She said this guy.

[1:34:25] Yeah, no problem.

[1:34:27] Okay.

[1:34:29] Yeah.

[1:34:30] Thank you.

[1:34:30] Ma'am.

[1:34:39] Meeting

[1:34:40] table.

[1:34:42] Table the office 27th meeting minutes.

[1:34:44] Cause they weren't in attack.

[1:34:46] Sure.

[1:34:47] Okay, can do it any time.

[1:34:49] Just for the record, Jen Martel, excused herself due to illness.

[1:34:56] Can I say one thing you can try.

[1:35:01] I might a little closer.

[1:35:03] That's it.

[1:35:03] Thank you for the sidewalk.

[1:35:05] You can park in the exit or.

[1:35:07] Exeter country park.

[1:35:07] Oh, thank you.

[1:35:08] I just figured answer that question.

[1:35:09] Thank you.

[1:35:10] Appreciate it.

[1:35:12] We'll be parking.

[1:35:14] Do you want a table that.

[1:35:16] I moved that we table our meeting minutes from our August 27th.

[1:35:21] 2026 meeting.

[1:35:24] Two,

[1:35:26] I'm sorry.

[1:35:27] Are

[1:35:29] two

[1:35:30] September 24th, 2026 meeting.

[1:35:34] Second discussion.

[1:35:37] All those in favor.

[1:35:38] Aye.

[1:35:39] Both.

[1:35:43] That was easy.

[1:35:45] okay.

[1:35:47] We on to the next.

[1:35:48] Case

[1:35:50] think everybody's cleared out now.

[1:35:51] Wow.

[1:35:53] Quiet room.

[1:35:54] .

[1:35:56] Must have been something you said, I know.

[1:35:59] with something they said,

[1:36:00] okay, I'm going to start the next case application of.

[1:36:04] I'm sorry if I say this wrong.

[1:36:06] Vanessa hanging.

[1:36:08] Bruce Bruce Lee Inc.

[1:36:11] V B H

[1:36:12] BHP.

[1:36:13] Thank you.

[1:36:14] Yeah.

[1:36:16] VHB yeah.

[1:36:17] Type says VB type.

[1:36:19] It's a,

[1:36:20] yeah, it doesn't wear Ru line up.

[1:36:21] Does it?

[1:36:22] VB V H B .

[1:36:25] On behalf of S P N H Exeter, LLC, for a lot line adjustment

[1:36:30] between.

[1:36:31] Map 66.

[1:36:33] Lots one and two through the transfer of approximately 3009, three, three point.

[1:36:39] Excellent.3009 acres, three point.

[1:36:41] That's a darn big watch an adjustment.

[1:36:43] That is a big model adjustment.

[1:36:45] The Prairie half of the town.

[1:36:48] Oh, oh nine.

[1:36:49] Yeah.

[1:36:49] We're.

[1:36:50] Metra.

[1:36:51] I have a much bigger

[1:36:53] thousand.

[1:36:55] Yeah, 3.09 acres.

[1:36:57] Geez.

[1:36:58] A map 66 lot one owned by Palmer Sakara, Inc. To map 66, lot

[1:37:04] two owned by.

[1:37:06] North country trust planning, board case number 26 dash 15.

[1:37:10] Hopefully I didn't butcher that too much, but.

[1:37:13] I tend to think I might have no it's okay.

[1:37:15] Hey, chairman, Mr. Chairman fresh, just for the record.

[1:37:18] I've mentioned this before, but I've recently retire.

[1:37:21] Retired from VHB.

[1:37:23] I thought you looked familiar.

[1:37:24] Yeah,

[1:37:25] I, I was not involved in this project prior to my retirement, so

[1:37:28] I don't see any reason to be excuse.

[1:37:30] Accused myself, but if anybody would like me to, I could go home.

[1:37:34] you okay with my feeling with that, Marty?

[1:37:37] I, I think.

[1:37:38] You do the right thing.

[1:37:38] You're bringing it up.

[1:37:39] Mm-hmm putting it out there.

[1:37:40] You're asking for input.

[1:37:42] I think generally in those situations, that's the right thing to do.

[1:37:45] And also it's your internal.

[1:37:48] You know.

[1:37:48] Right, right, right, right.

[1:37:49] And then, so I, I respect.

[1:37:51] Your conscience and I Jimy crickets telling you that.

[1:37:54] You're okay.

[1:37:55] I'm good.

[1:37:55] I'm gonna tell you, I feel you're okay.

[1:37:58] I think he's okay.

[1:37:58] I think he's fine.

[1:37:59] He's fine.You sure?

[1:38:00] Sam, he looks little shaded.

[1:38:01] I like brings wanna get him out there.

[1:38:02] He looks just fine.

[1:38:02] Yeah.

[1:38:03] I do appreciate.

[1:38:04] Thanks Sam.

[1:38:04] You bringing it up though?

[1:38:05] It's out there.

[1:38:06] Yeah.

[1:38:06] It's a way to go.

[1:38:09] Dave, are we good?

[1:38:11] Yeah, the I'll I'll have some comments in a second, but I'll just say

[1:38:14] it's complete for review purposes, in my opinion, you should, you know, so we

[1:38:18] should open the.

[1:38:19] Case, except it is complete vote on acceptance as complete for review purposes.

[1:38:24] So op to open the case.

[1:38:25] Yes.

[1:38:25] Somebody hear that.

[1:38:27] Yes.

[1:38:27] Somebody wanna make that motion?

[1:38:29] Sure.

[1:38:29] I make a motion that we accept.

[1:38:32] Planning board case.

[1:38:34] 26 dash 15.

[1:38:37] And open the case

[1:38:40] complete for review purposes, purposes.

[1:38:42] And I will second that.

[1:38:45] In discussion, all those in favor.

[1:38:47] Aye.

[1:38:48] Aye.

[1:38:49] Opposed, same.

[1:38:52] We're open.

[1:38:52] Okay.

[1:38:53] Just wanted to make up a point.

[1:38:55] I'm gonna Dave, if you heard about it, but our, we got a spam

[1:39:00] spa.

[1:39:00] Spam.Oh, he said that attempt this morning, where.

[1:39:03] Somebody posed as a

[1:39:05] external employee used all the information from online and said, you owe us by

[1:39:10] the, by the start of the meeting, you owe us an approval fee.

[1:39:13] That's happened and here give us your wiring information.

[1:39:16] And they actually went back and forth before they realized, like, that's scary.

[1:39:19] This doesn't make any sense, but just given I, if there's other people that

[1:39:24] are coming up.

[1:39:24] On

[1:39:25] for applications, just to let them know that, keep an eye on that

[1:39:29] the town doesn't require.

[1:39:31] Yeah, wiring.

[1:39:32] I did not the fees for somewhere.

[1:39:34] Yeah.

[1:39:34] It just happened this afternoon.

[1:39:36] Yeah.

[1:39:36] That was part of my public service announcement that I was gonna do later

[1:39:39] Because you weren't the only one.

[1:39:41] No, no problem.

[1:39:41] I'm you, weren't the only one on this agenda that got hit.

[1:39:44] They, they must look at the PA planning board packets on the website.

[1:39:48] Where your email, your phone back all there.

[1:39:50] Your name is all there.

[1:39:51] So they contact, they contacted the prior application too, like two days ago.

[1:39:56] And tried to get an approval fee.

[1:39:57] So the town of exit will never ask for.

[1:40:00] You know, demand money right away, and you can always come in and pay

[1:40:05] for a check.

[1:40:05] We never ask for, we don't even have the ability to get it.

[1:40:09] Wired to us.

[1:40:09] So especially the other day, someone asked for an Austin, Texas, so we we're

[1:40:14] not in Texas.

[1:40:14] So if anyone.

[1:40:16] Asks you for that, it's a scam.

[1:40:18] So maybe that's something also to mention.

[1:40:21] Unfortunately

[1:40:22] to applicants when you meet with them initially and such right when they're doing

[1:40:26] the application or

[1:40:27] the department, I mean, within reason, obvious.

[1:40:29] Obviously, yeah.

[1:40:30] Maybe put a, you know, yeah.

[1:40:32] That's something in the real estate world.

[1:40:34] We actually have that on our contracts now.

[1:40:37] It's that bad where people are getting requested to.

[1:40:41] Wire deposit monies and such.

[1:40:42] And it's just, it's pretty crazy out there.

[1:40:44] Isn't it?

[1:40:45] Yeah.

[1:40:46] So I'm gonna send the town managers aware of it.

[1:40:50] I just, I just found out about it.

[1:40:53] Before the meeting, so, oh, so he had already lied.

[1:40:55] I had, he'd already lied meeting.

[1:40:56] Are you tomorrow?

[1:40:57] Could you talk to him cuz they might wanna put a, a, a warrant

[1:40:59] That's what I was thinking like a bit on our website.

[1:41:01] Website.

[1:41:01] Yeah, I think that would be important.

[1:41:03] Thank you for bringing that.

[1:41:04] I was gonna say it.

[1:41:05] It's good where we've seen it happened up in Lebanon two.

[1:41:09] The

[1:41:10] the savvy

[1:41:12] people that do it all the time were okay.

[1:41:13] It was the people that going in for zoning relief or a front yard

[1:41:18] setback that who don't do it all the.

[1:41:20] Time that really got hit by that.

[1:41:22] I know it'd be easy to put, send the money in.

[1:41:24] Absolutely be seen again, especially if you, you know, not sound weird, but especially

[1:41:27] if you don't ask for.

[1:41:28] That much.

[1:41:29] I know, you know what I mean?

[1:41:30] Like on a box or whatever, that was five grand.

[1:41:33] This one was five grand.

[1:41:34] That's a pretty, I've been asking for five grand.

[1:41:35] I'd say ambition.

[1:41:36] Yeah.

[1:41:37] .

[1:41:38] Yeah.

[1:41:38] And then may I just say my before.

[1:41:41] No, I just have some opening comments.

[1:41:43] Yeah.

[1:41:43] Just to make, just

[1:41:44] as you said, this is a lot merger.

[1:41:46] It's a boundary line adjustment.

[1:41:47] No new lots are being created.

[1:41:49] It's taken two lots and it's adjusting the boundary between them and it's adding

[1:41:54] Some land area to one of the lots and taking it away from the

[1:41:57] other.

[1:41:59] Basically, it's just

[1:42:01] there's a landlocked parcel that, that owned by north north country.

[1:42:04] Trust.

[1:42:05] And parliaments has front of John Holland way and they're giving three acres along.

[1:42:11] That they own in front of.

[1:42:13] The the main parcels to provide frontage.

[1:42:16] For the north country trust lot.

[1:42:18] He'll describe it.

[1:42:19] What I do with the lot line adjustments, you just review the plans for

[1:42:22] consistency, with our land use regulations to determine if they violate.

[1:42:27] Any zoning ordinances, you know, does it, does it make one lot less?

[1:42:32] Less conform or less than the minimum lot area per se,

[1:42:35] or does it, you know, affect the build lot area?

[1:42:37] These are very large, lots.

[1:42:39] It.

[1:42:39] Does not violate in my opinion, any of the zoning.

[1:42:42] Terms of the zoning ordinance or our other regulations.

[1:42:46] The applicant does request two waivers, but I don't believe either of these.

[1:42:51] Apply as this is merely a lot line adjustment and no lot new lots

[1:42:54] are being created.

[1:42:55] In my opinion.

[1:42:57] So I believe the that's what it meant to be safe.

[1:42:59] yeah.

[1:42:59] I think the waivers are moot, but I'll let you know.

[1:43:01] They're they're in there.

[1:43:03] They're being requested.

[1:43:04] I don't believe.

[1:43:05] Either one of them are necessary.

[1:43:07] That's all I have.

[1:43:08] Mr. Chairman.

[1:43:08] Thank you.

[1:43:09] Yep.

[1:43:10] Great.

[1:43:11] So I'm Dave FEMA from DHB and I'm representing the, the applicant.

[1:43:16] Statement.

[1:43:17] I did a little color exhibit.

[1:43:18] It was a little easier to see, but as he mentioned, we're.

[1:43:22] My client owns this lot too, which is landlocked up here is Holland way

[1:43:29] So in the event, we are gonna develop this for any purpose.

[1:43:33] And it's also something that we've talked with the town about, where there could

[1:43:36] be a potential.

[1:43:38] You know, location for a new water treatment plant.

[1:43:42] Any, any scenario, those that would need to be a curb cut on hauling

[1:43:45] way to access the site.

[1:43:48] And it's landlocked.

[1:43:49] So

[1:43:50] you can see, but the Palmers, the car had a, has a weird panhandle

[1:43:54] shaped to it right here.

[1:43:56] Really unusable for them.

[1:43:59] So they've reached an agreement where this little wedge here.

[1:44:02] About three acres

[1:44:04] would just get flipped over so you can see the, the lots basically remain

[1:44:08] this about the same.

[1:44:09] There's just a.

[1:44:11] Flipping of the three acres from, from one to the other.

[1:44:14] And now this, they each have appropriate frontage on Holland way for a curb

[1:44:18] cut at some point.

[1:44:22] The waivers that we discussed.

[1:44:24] And again, one of them said if deemed necessary about the town planner.

[1:44:28] So it sounds like not deemed for, but it really.

[1:44:31] Got into, if you were creating new lots.

[1:44:33] Lots.And it wanted you to provide a high intensity soil survey for the entire

[1:44:37] site or portion.

[1:44:39] We were just noting that, you know, the intent is really the lot line

[1:44:42] adjustment.

[1:44:43] There's no proposed uses at this time.

[1:44:45] And that as we move forward, if a site plan or things like that

[1:44:48] move forward, then this would be something that could be visited at that time

[1:44:52] And again, the w item w was also the location of test pits.

[1:44:57] Pits for septic reserve again.

[1:44:59] Wasn't appropriate for what we were doing now for the, the lot line adjustment

[1:45:04] That's it now I'll just add, we've never.

[1:45:07] Required that for any lot money adjustments since I've been here.

[1:45:10] So nor have we ever required a waiver from those.

[1:45:15] So, yeah, if it makes sense, I can just either leave the, we can

[1:45:18] leave the waivers in or just, I can just pull 'em and if they're

[1:45:21] not, well, I think, yeah.

[1:45:23] They're in there.

[1:45:23] I think we just said it.

[1:45:25] I mean, if they, if the plaintiff board agrees, they're basically withdrawn and they're

[1:45:28] not withdrawn in considering.

[1:45:29] Yeah.

[1:45:29] Okay.

[1:45:30] They've never asked for before, so I don't know why they would now.

[1:45:33] Beyond that there's nothing really exciting about my presentation.

[1:45:36] We're just flipping three acres.

[1:45:39] To get, I, I'm not sure what happened.

[1:45:40] Nine was put in where.

[1:45:43] This, this usual, this 33 acres was landmark part of,

[1:45:47] but this is a good time to address it.

[1:45:49] And I know that.

[1:45:51] The applicant is also working with

[1:45:53] D O T.

[1:45:55] T on there's a limited access right away along haul.

[1:45:57] So they're working with D O T to, to on an agreement for that

[1:46:00] as well.

[1:46:01] Mm-hmm

[1:46:04] any questions for the applicant.

[1:46:08] I only, no, I'm good.

[1:46:09] Any members of the public want to speak?

[1:46:12] Bring it back to the board.

[1:46:13] He's getting punchy.

[1:46:14] .

[1:46:16] Mr Sharples, do you have any.

[1:46:18] Suggested conditions of approval.

[1:46:19] Mm-hmm yes, I do.

[1:46:21] You would you like to hear them?

[1:46:23] Mm-hmm it would be number one, the subdivision.

[1:46:26] Plan shall be submitted as a shape file or CAD file in New Hampshire state

[1:46:30] plane.

[1:46:31] Coordinates to the satisfaction of the town planner and to all monumentation shall be

[1:46:35] set in accordance with nine.

[1:46:37] Section 9.25 of the extra site plan, review and subdivision regulations.

[1:46:46] Those both sound appropriate to us.

[1:46:48] Okay.

[1:46:49] I just need to get the number.

[1:46:50] There we go.

[1:46:55] Are you ready for, I'm gonna give this a shot that 26 15 is so

[1:46:59] over to the other side.

[1:47:00] So I am going to move that the request for is it van asked

[1:47:06] VHP, but vans close enough last time.

[1:47:08] Yep.

[1:47:08] Hagan.

[1:47:09] Brusk Inc.

[1:47:11] On behalf of S P.

[1:47:13] New NHX exit or LLC for lot line adjustment.

[1:47:17] To transfer approximately 3.9.

[1:47:20] Acres.

[1:47:21] Oh, oh, nine 3.009.

[1:47:24] Thank you.

[1:47:27] Acres from Matt, Matt, 66 wa one owned by Palmer's cart, Inc. To map

[1:47:33] 66 lot, two.

[1:47:36] Owned by north country, trustee.

[1:47:38] Be approved, approved with the conditions as stated by our town planner, Dave Sharples

[1:47:44] Mm-hmm

[1:47:47] did we get everything?

[1:47:48] Mm-hmm I think so.

[1:47:50] Did we get a second?

[1:47:52] Second.

[1:47:54] Any discussion.

[1:47:58] Seek a vote those in favor.

[1:48:00] Aye.

[1:48:02] Abs extensions.

[1:48:03] Posed

[1:48:04] unanimously passed.

[1:48:06] Congratulations.

[1:48:07] Thank you.

[1:48:08] Thank you for your brevity.

[1:48:11] Yes.

[1:48:12] And thank you for.

[1:48:13] The the

[1:48:16] spam attempt

[1:48:17] for bringing ups important.

[1:48:21] All right.

[1:48:21] Moving through our agenda.

[1:48:24] Master plan discussion.

[1:48:26] Dave, do you want to discuss anything from the master plan?

[1:48:30] O P C

[1:48:32] well, we held a meeting

[1:48:33] the other day.

[1:48:35] I talked about a number of items.

[1:48:36] One of the worth mentioning was the.

[1:48:39] Was starting that time of year again, we're looking at possible zoning amendments to

[1:48:43] the upcoming.

[1:48:45] March election, but it's, you know, takes a few months.

[1:48:47] So I asked the board members if they had anything, you know, start thinking

[1:48:52] about it, but I'll also ask everyone.

[1:48:54] Here.

[1:48:54] If you have any.

[1:48:56] Suggestions on zoning amendments,

[1:48:58] zoning changes are end of the purview of the planning board.

[1:49:01] So if you have any issue, any of the zoning member amendments,

[1:49:04] amendments.It's good to kind of flesh those out.

[1:49:07] Maybe, you know, early

[1:49:10] to get them, you know,

[1:49:13] probably in a form you'd want to look at, you know, maybe a November

[1:49:15] hearing December.

[1:49:17] And then move them forward to, to the warrant quickly.

[1:49:20] Which is coming up quickly.

[1:49:21] So.

[1:49:23] That's all I have, I guess the other part.

[1:49:25] Well,

[1:49:26] you were here and I'm here and he's here.

[1:49:29] Scheduling.

[1:49:29] Why don't we reschedule that?

[1:49:30] Good idea.

[1:49:32] Do you want to do it the 22nd at eight?

[1:49:35] That's the October 22nd.

[1:49:37] Of the meeting.

[1:49:38] I can do it.

[1:49:40] David.

[1:49:40] Yep.

[1:49:41] Let's do that.

[1:49:42] There you go.

[1:49:44] I'll send an email out to Marty.

[1:49:45] Do you wanna send an email out?

[1:49:46] Sure.

[1:49:46] Okay.

[1:49:47] Yeah.

[1:49:47] Include Ashley on that too.

[1:49:48] Yep.

[1:49:52] And

[1:49:55] I guess I'll bring this up.

[1:49:56] So.

[1:49:58] One of our

[1:50:00] full-time plaintiff board members.

[1:50:03] John Gruder has been dealing with some illness, which he's fine with me talking

[1:50:07] about.

[1:50:07] I've talked to him.

[1:50:09] And he's

[1:50:11] he's

[1:50:13] considering a leave of absence from the board because of that, it's nothing life-threatening

[1:50:18] but it's been ongoing.

[1:50:20] And it's not determined what he's dealing with.

[1:50:22] So.

[1:50:23] Is there an avenue for that Dave?

[1:50:24] Or is it just.

[1:50:26] We just

[1:50:27] moved forward as we know why he is not here, we don't make a

[1:50:30] big deal of it.

[1:50:30] And alternate gets activated and we stay pat.

[1:50:34] Is that yeah.

[1:50:35] After what we do come manager, because we are trying to.

[1:50:39] I yeah, the, the

[1:50:41] the select board has the authority to remove members.

[1:50:44] Yeah.

[1:50:44] If they do, if they fall below a 60% attendance threshold.

[1:50:48] Sure.

[1:50:49] So.

[1:50:49] We don't control that.

[1:50:50] Yeah.

[1:50:52] This that's up to the select board.

[1:50:54] But if John continues not to show up, like that was another, I I've

[1:50:59] had members do that since you've been here.

[1:51:01] Yeah.

[1:51:02] It's just, you know, you deal with who you have and you appoint more

[1:51:05] alternates to the position.

[1:51:07] Yeah, you can.

[1:51:07] I don't think there's any mechanism that I'm aware of that you can like

[1:51:10] Appoint an alternate as a regular member in the interim or something like that

[1:51:14] Okay.

[1:51:14] I know you just.

[1:51:16] We have a leave of absence policy.

[1:51:17] I don't know, but I'm gonna you to town manager in the morning.

[1:51:20] I can't let me, yeah, let me ask and then I can.

[1:51:23] Yeah, you'll be there too, right?

[1:51:25] Yeah.

[1:51:25] I don't think you'll have anything in your planning board rules, but we, we

[1:51:28] might have.

[1:51:28] Okay.

[1:51:29] I mean, and I don't know.

[1:51:31] But your time has the select board removed anybody because of attendance.

[1:51:35] Oh,

[1:51:36] I, not that I'm aware of, but yeah, me neither.

[1:51:38] I think it, maybe, maybe somebody talked somebody or something.

[1:51:41] There have been people coming on and off, but not a lot.

[1:51:43] We haven't had no, generally we haven't had a lot of attendance issues.

[1:51:46] Right.

[1:51:46] And, and they usually related to health and people are, you know, understanding, understanding

[1:51:52] Yes.

[1:51:52] As you know, in general, we're having quorum issues and through no fault of

[1:51:55] anyone volunteering, it just happens.

[1:51:57] Right.

[1:51:58] So we're reevaluating.

[1:52:00] What we have going on and.

[1:52:02] See what our options are to maybe consolidate mm-hmm and things like that

[1:52:06] But yeah, we, we.

[1:52:08] Way too many meetings are being canceled at the last minute.

[1:52:11] So people are coming and they can't.

[1:52:14] Can't actively do anything.

[1:52:14] Yeah.

[1:52:15] So it's being looked at, so I don't wanna say we don't.

[1:52:19] Don't

[1:52:20] follow our policies on that.

[1:52:22] Right now.

[1:52:23] Okay.

[1:52:24] It's coming up soon.

[1:52:25] Okay.

[1:52:25] I mean, I, I.

[1:52:27] Was bringing that up to try to be proactive.

[1:52:30] So.

[1:52:31] I think that John is.

[1:52:33] Wants to continue.

[1:52:35] He was, did participate.

[1:52:38] In the master plan.

[1:52:39] Mm-hmm .

[1:52:41] Meeting yesterday.

[1:52:44] And, you know, he's just dealing with some health stuff, so I'll move.

[1:52:47] No, I, and this is the time to bring it up because we're going

[1:52:50] to be reevaluating.

[1:52:51] So we can use this as a.

[1:52:54] An example of something to look at.

[1:52:55] Yeah.

[1:52:56] It is a good thing to understand, at least yeah.

[1:52:57] Especially health issues, you know, mm-hmm , I mean,

[1:53:01] all right next.

[1:53:02] So the land use regulation review.

[1:53:05] I think Dave kind of brought that up field modifications, none requested nor any

[1:53:09] bonds of credit.

[1:53:11] Okay.

[1:53:12] That's it for our agenda.

[1:53:13] Would you like the motion to adjourn?

[1:53:15] Good.

[1:53:15] I've moved to adjourn.

[1:53:16] Mm-hmm .

[1:53:17] So moved

[1:53:18] all in favor.

[1:53:20] Aye.

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Planning Board - 09/10/26

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