[0:12] Everybody on this side and father the

[0:15] few things we have to do to get started

[0:17] and then we'll call you forward please.

[0:20] >> Okay. Um call the meeting to order at 6

[0:23] o' uh first item will be a roll call

[0:28] >> here.

[0:38] » all right. Well, tonight we're having an

[0:40] invocation by Father Dominic. And

[0:43] Father, would you come forward to the

[0:45] podium and we'll all stand for the

[0:47] invocation and after that we'll do the

[0:49] pledge of allegiance.

[0:56] In the name of the Father and of the Son

[0:58] and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. Heavenly

[1:01] Father, we come before you today with

[1:04] grateful hearts asking you to bless our

[1:07] city council and all those who serve our

[1:11] community. Thank you for giving them the

[1:14] responsibility and opportunity to lead,

[1:18] make decisions and work for the common

[1:21] good. Lord, grant our council members

[1:25] wisdom to make good decisions, courage

[1:30] to do what is right, patience when

[1:33] facing difficult challenges, and

[1:36] compassion for every person they

[1:39] represent. Help them listen carefully to

[1:43] the needs of our families, children,

[1:46] seniors, businesses, and those who are

[1:50] struggling. Guide them to work together

[1:54] with respect, honesty, fairness, and

[1:58] unity, putting our communities

[2:01] well-being above personal interests. May

[2:06] their decisions promote peace, safety,

[2:11] justice, and opportunities for all. May

[2:15] the Holy Spirit guide our leaders. May

[2:18] Christ be at the center of the service

[2:22] and may God bless and protect our city

[2:26] and all who call it home. Protect our

[2:30] city and all who call it home. In the

[2:33] name of the Father and of the Son and of

[2:36] the Holy Spirit. Amen.

[2:39] >> Thank you, Father. Thank you.

[2:41] >> Ready. Salute. I pledge allegiance to

[2:44] the flag of the United States of America

[2:47] and to the republic for which it stands.

[2:49] One nation under God, indivisible, with

[2:52] liberty and justice for all.

[2:55] >> Okay. Thank you. And

[2:59] thank you very much uh Miss Kintanar for

[3:02] bringing the father tonight.

[3:05] Okay. And um so the first item uh now

[3:08] would be the approval of the agenda. Do

[3:11] we have a motion?

[3:14] I'll move for approval.

[3:16] >> Second it.

[3:17] >> Motion by Gomez, second

[3:20] >> by Valdinos.

[3:22] >> I

[3:25] >> Yes. Hi I

[3:28] >> Okay. And uh next would be the consent

[3:31] calendar which is only one item. Does

[3:33] anybody wish to pull it?

[3:38] » Uh can we pull it Mayor Paul? I do have

[3:40] some questions.

[3:41] >> Okay. So, we're gonna pull item uh for

[3:45] the Veterans Park splash pad

[3:48] rehabilitation and startup. And I don't

[3:50] know if we we do have a staff report

[3:53] that's been written up

[3:56] and um

[3:59] you know I I know I read through it and the part that I that what I

[4:04] understand is this is like the first

[4:06] stage and what may be additional work

[4:09] that needs to be done. Uh I I understand

[4:13] that it's been I guess 14 years but it

[4:16] might have been more than that that that

[4:18] was first put in that they said that be

[4:21] it's been about 14 years since they u

[4:23] really had totally had the maintenance

[4:27] that would you be considered complete

[4:29] and that this is the first uh in this

[4:32] first phase here is to uh correct those

[4:35] items that are above ground. They're not

[4:37] sure what's below ground. they have to

[4:40] take care of these things first and then

[4:43] after that um they're they're

[4:46] recommending that um you know we there

[4:48] be a weekly maintenance

[4:53] uh and that would be a separate contract

[4:55] and then if there's underground work

[4:56] that would be a separate contract but

[5:02] » oh and well first of all before well I'd

[5:06] like to ask council members

[5:08] Go public comment.

[5:11] >> I did.

[5:15] Let's go to public comment. I apologize.

[5:22] Okay. Don't want to be a bearer of bad

[5:24] news, but I've been waiting a month for

[5:28] a record request

[5:30] and never got it. I turned it to your

[5:33] clerk because Miss Gonzalez over there

[5:36] at the police department don't know how

[5:37] what she's doing. She sent me another

[5:41] place to go put in a public record.

[5:43] That's not the way it works. And I'll

[5:46] give you guys a couple of days to fix it

[5:48] because once I do a public record

[5:50] request, it's a litigation hold on what

[5:52] I want. and a disability altered or

[5:58] hidden from me as a

[6:01] and so I'd rather not involve that

[6:06] sheriff. If not, I'm going to be calling

[6:09] an intent to sue myself.

[6:11] >> Okay, Mr. Limy, by the way, we should

[6:14] not mention any city employees by name.

[6:17] Uh, and I'll ask anybody in audience to

[6:20] not refrain from that

[6:21] >> to identify Yeah.

[6:23] >> Why can't we identify them?

[6:27] >> Well, all I can say that's the re what

[6:30] the attorney has told me that that's

[6:32] what the the law says. But that said, uh

[6:35] you know

[6:37] >> that I believe it's been received.

[6:38] >> Yes.

[6:39] >> Okay. It's been received. I know there's

[6:41] things that go to our attorney before

[6:43] they can be released. And um

[6:47] >> the the rule is real clear about open

[6:50] records. If you don't have an attorney,

[6:52] that's your problem. You need to get

[6:54] something going. It's clear you have 10

[6:56] days. I was never notified of any

[7:00] extension. And what she did already

[7:02] violated

[7:04] the Open Records Act already.

[7:08] Now, I can I can send it all my

[7:10] information to the attorney general and

[7:12] see what they want to do. But, uh, I'd

[7:15] like to get this done in house, but I'm

[7:18] not going to keep playing the game with

[7:20] you guys. There's been several records

[7:23] I've never received,

[7:25] >> and there's three more coming up real

[7:27] fast close to the 10 day.

[7:30] >> Okay. And and uh

[7:33] what I would would ask, all of these

[7:35] have been submitted to to Michelle.

[7:37] Okay. So, she has them. I know that our attorney is still working for us.

[7:42] He's not here right now. Uh he has

[7:46] resigned, just so you know that. Uh but

[7:49] he he is willing to continue working

[7:51] until we find a replacement. And so that

[7:54] doesn't mean that he's not working on

[7:55] things. So,

[7:57] >> he will respond appropriately.

[7:59] >> How do you get someone that never voted

[8:01] in for the council of the vice mayor?

[8:05] >> He was never voted in. He should be a

[8:08] temporary

[8:09] fill in, not to be advanced. He

[8:13] advancing when the people didn't want

[8:15] him in here. They didn't vote for him.

[8:17] >> Sir,

[8:20] you know, we can choose

[8:24] who between us who the council members

[8:26] are. This gentleman has been voted in in

[8:28] the past, but

[8:30] >> voted not voted for. Okay. We'll just do

[8:33] a a recall on the whole city council.

[8:36] about that.

[8:38] >> Thank you for your comments. Anybody

[8:40] else wish to speak on public comments?

[8:46] » Okay.

[8:47] And I apologize for not skipping a

[8:50] public comments there and getting in the

[8:51] wrong order. But back to the the

[8:54] Veterans Parks flash pad. Um

[8:58] uh

[9:00] we do not have our acting public works

[9:03] director here tonight, Troy Ever. Um

[9:07] >> excuse me, Mayor Boyer. Did you ask if

[9:09] there was anyone else that wanted to

[9:11] step forward or No.

[9:13] >> Well, I might have missed that. Does

[9:15] anybody else wish to come on public

[9:16] comments?

[9:18] >> Is there going to be more discussion on

[9:20] the park flashback?

[9:22] >> Uh there will be. Yes.

[9:25] Okay.

[9:27] Um or sir, did you want to speak

[9:30] in public? [clears throat]

[9:32] >> Okay. I'm

[9:35] >> I messed up. I got that out out of order

[9:38] and then I didn't make sure that

[9:39] everybody had a chance to speak. I

[9:40] apologize.

[9:41] >> Oh, perfect. U I I just My name is Dorio

[9:44] Gutier. I uh live at 500 North Current,

[9:46] but I um I haven't received a call about

[9:49] the incident with my neighbor um at 522

[9:53] North Kern and um I really when I called

[9:58] Brenda to come out um she um said that

[10:03] she would go out later, she never went

[10:05] out, but I really wanted to see if it

[10:07] didn't have to be her, it could be

[10:08] anybody just to come out and see what

[10:10] the neighbor actually did in that in the

[10:14] um the the the water cement block where

[10:17] you where it's um cemented. Um there's a

[10:21] lid to open it. I just wanted to see if

[10:23] someone can inspect what they actually

[10:26] did there. And and um I already have um

[10:29] he's already been violated for the the

[10:31] dumping of toxic water, but I believe

[10:33] that's what he's continually trying to

[10:35] do. Divert the water somewhere else or

[10:38] something. And I uh right now actually

[10:40] before I um came over here I I double

[10:43] checked that area where there was the illegal dumpings and there's water

[10:48] still leeching out from there. All of

[10:51] his he uses white rocks of some sort to

[10:54] like cover up or to make it look nice

[10:56] and they're all falling through the

[10:58] ground. He's trying to reme remedy it by putting

[11:02] like bathroom like a really thin

[11:04] bathroom uh like a wallpaper or

[11:08] something. It's like a pretty pretty

[11:09] hard but they're just using all kinds of

[11:11] junk. The whole fence is all damaged.

[11:14] >> Sir, you you would want someone from the city to go out and take a look

[11:19] at it. And Brendo is a person that you

[11:22] referred to.

[11:30] » I'm kind of c can can somebody get back

[11:34] to him then what that process is?

[11:40] » Is there a timeline that he can be

[11:42] given? Well, we were allowed the first

[11:45] violation which is two week a citation

[11:47] two weeks and third and second third the

[11:50] second and third each is two weeks. So

[11:53] accumulate that up.

[11:57] » Well, I'm kind of to the point where I'm

[11:58] just going to file a lawsuit. Um a civil

[12:01] lawsuit against him, but I have a lot of

[12:03] video to to and even previously the um

[12:08] Jose Maro, he he's the one that kind of

[12:10] helped and he took pictures of his own

[12:11] with the city. So, there's already

[12:13] documents um of the incident previously

[12:17] with the city already, but I just wanted

[12:20] to see it

[12:21] >> just like a cease desist or something. I

[12:24] I'm just not I'm kind of to that point

[12:26] where I'm just there. No, they're not

[12:28] supposed to be a washer back there, but

[12:30] they just continue washing their clothes

[12:32] and dumping that water from the washer

[12:33] into

[12:34] >> Okay, sir. Well, okay. I I understand

[12:36] what you're saying and I know we're

[12:39] going through whatever processes we can

[12:41] and then I know that if you want to do

[12:43] something legal with your neighbor

[12:44] that's your right to do so but

[12:46] >> just a bit

[12:48] >> we're following at least the steps that

[12:51] we need to.

[12:52] >> All right. Yeah. No.

[12:53] >> I'm sorry that is not happening quicker.

[12:56] >> Yeah. It's fine. I just would was

[12:58] expecting a call or at least someone to

[12:59] come out to to check with me and to see

[13:02] what what what that situation was about.

[13:05] And so I haven't been able to speak to

[13:06] anybody ever since that time. And they kind of when people do that,

[13:11] nothing happens to them. They continue

[13:12] to do it over and over until they until

[13:15] they someone stops and

[13:17] >> Okay. Okay.

[13:19] >> That's something.

[13:21] >> Thank you.

[13:23] >> Does anybody else wish to come up for

[13:26] public comment?

[13:30] » Not seeing anyone. Okay. Now, we're

[13:32] going to go to the item that was pulled

[13:34] from consent calendar, which is the

[13:36] Veterans Park splash pad. And um

[13:43] we don't actually have staff here to

[13:45] present on it tonight other than we've

[13:48] read this, but if there's we should have

[13:50] a discussion and then um see what people

[13:54] from the public have to say and then see

[13:55] if we want to make a decision on this.

[14:00] Mr. Tro discuss it at all. There's

[14:02] nobody here to talk about it.

[14:07] >> I don't see anyone here without having a

[14:09] city manager, without having our public

[14:11] first person. It hasn't gone to

[14:13] engineering.

[14:18] » Why is it here?

[14:20] >> Well, if uh after reading it, if we felt

[14:23] comfortable with it, we wanted to

[14:24] approve it either on consent or now that

[14:27] it's off of consent, we could.

[14:30] I know that it's been down for a while

[14:33] and I know it's the hottest part of the

[14:34] year and even now if it's going to get

[14:37] worked on it's not going to it's not

[14:39] going to get taken care of while it's

[14:42] still still really hot unfortunately.

[14:44] >> So Mayor Par, are we discussing it right

[14:46] now then or are we bringing it back

[14:47] because there's a couple of questions I

[14:49] do?

[14:49] >> We're we're bringing it up right now. So

[14:52] >> when does it the splash pad officially

[14:54] close?

[14:56] >> Is it October I think?

[15:00] Yeah.

[15:00] >> So, in two months.

[15:02] >> Um,

[15:04] >> and

[15:07] how was this budgeted before like all

[15:09] these,

[15:10] you know, all this stuff? How was it

[15:12] budgeted? Because it it was done at one

[15:14] point, right?

[15:16] >> When you say it was done,

[15:18] >> yeah, all this work, is it work that

[15:19] needs to get done on it? that according

[15:21] to this contractor who's you know as I

[15:25] understand familiar with splash pads

[15:28] this is their recommendation the work of

[15:30] what they would charge to do it which

[15:32] >> okay

[15:32] >> the

[15:34] >> so when it was built there was never

[15:36] money budgeted for these items right

[15:38] here

[15:39] >> well when it was built roughly 20 years

[15:42] ago I think um

[15:45] >> you know I I couldn't answer you whether

[15:48] what was budgeted every year it probably

[15:50] you know, they every

[15:53] I'm making an assumption that staff

[15:55] worked on it. They they were trained on

[15:56] how to take care of it. A lot of those

[15:58] staff have since left and equipment has

[16:02] um worn out and it's gotten to the point

[16:05] where the recommendation isn't is to not

[16:08] use it until everything is corrected.

[16:11] >> So, there's two months left.

[16:14] Can we ask

[16:16] Blaze and Associates for a grant for

[16:18] this? Uh because I think this is a

[16:21] perfect item. It's on a park.

[16:24] Um

[16:26] I don't see it as difficult to try to

[16:28] chase some money for this since it's two

[16:30] months away and

[16:34] you know look for a grant that's this

[16:36] amount.

[16:37] >> It's just two months away.

[16:39] >> Yeah.

[16:40] And then again, if this is the

[16:42] agreement,

[16:44] um, is this a one-time offer or is it

[16:49] ongoing? I don't see a start or end

[16:52] date.

[16:52] >> Yeah, this is just for the first phase.

[16:54] And honestly, if we were going to not

[16:58] try to do something right away, it

[16:59] probably makes sense to to uh get some

[17:02] other proposals um and um

[17:05] >> get it done over the winter and and make

[17:07] sure it's done right.

[17:08] >> That was my question. Is this are there

[17:10] other bids or is this the only bid?

[17:12] >> This is the only

[17:13] >> we were supposed to agree on today with

[17:15] no other bid.

[17:17] >> Correct. And and the again the

[17:18] assumption was to try to get things done

[17:20] as soon as possible. But again, it's

[17:23] again here we are almost September.

[17:26] >> So there's no point in rushing it since

[17:28] we're going to close in October. So

[17:30] yeah,

[17:30] >> I agree. definitely look for a grant

[17:33] >> and we're going to ask the public here,

[17:38] but just want to hear how what other

[17:39] council members thoughts are before we

[17:42] get public input.

[17:43] >> Yeah. I know normally for parks um when

[17:47] we build a park, we don't normally set

[17:49] aside money for maintenance. It's like

[17:52] um a fire truck or a police vehicle um

[17:56] or anything out of public works. Um,

[17:58] there's a there's a budget for

[18:00] maintenance and we pull it out of there.

[18:02] Uh, the $9,000 amount, I believe 10,000

[18:05] is when we have to go to bid or

[18:07] something above that. So, it's well

[18:10] within the the allotted the allotted

[18:13] amount for us to make a decision on it.

[18:17] Um, I don't I don't think it needs to

[18:18] wait two two months

[18:20] >> or two weeks. Um,

[18:23] and then as far as trying to find a

[18:25] grant, grants don't cover maintenance.

[18:27] Grants will cover improvements if that's

[18:29] what we're looking for. And grants maybe

[18:31] will cover a new uh splash pad, but not

[18:34] maintenance.

[18:35] >> That's a great idea, Greg. We should get

[18:37] a new splash pad for the kids. upgrade.

[18:40] >> Maybe after we finish the maintenance on

[18:42] this, we could have that discussion, but

[18:44] I think we need to take care of what we

[18:45] have right now.

[18:46] >> So, like you were saying, there's no

[18:48] extra. I believe there should be at

[18:50] least three bids.

[18:52] Anything in the amount of 5,000 or more.

[18:55] Um,

[18:57] it's 2 months away and let's talk to

[19:00] Blaze. That's what we're paying them

[19:01] for.

[19:03] >> Oh, Danny, you got any thoughts?

[19:09] » I would like to get a fix if possible

[19:12] before the season ended, but

[19:15] I wish there was a temporary fix we

[19:17] could do right now, but I wouldn't mind

[19:19] seeing a new bad phantom in the future.

[19:22] I think we should focus on the one we

[19:23] have right now, though.

[19:25] Okay. Well, at this point, I'd like to

[19:26] turn over to the public and if there's

[19:28] anybody wishes to speak on this item,

[19:31] uh, please come forward.

[19:37] » If you have a technician working at the

[19:39] city, no one worked on it. I got it from

[19:42] an inside source. That was never a test

[19:44] theft.

[19:45] >> They didn't do any upkeep on that

[19:46] machine. And in order to do it right,

[19:50] you need at least three bids. You can't

[19:53] just go out and grab a bid and okay and

[19:55] take it. Cities are obligated to get

[19:58] three bid and do the lowest bid.

[20:00] So, and no, there's no upkeep on that

[20:03] machine. I got it from a reliable source

[20:06] and I seen it.

[20:10] Unless you're a technician, no one did

[20:12] anything to it but maybe change filters

[20:14] and stuff like that. That machine was

[20:17] neglected.

[20:18] There's there's no one here that wants

[20:21] to take responsibility for anything in

[20:23] this town.

[20:25] >> They want to hear people and say, "Okay,

[20:27] that's what they said. That's what I'm

[20:28] going to believe." Instead of looking

[20:29] for themselves. I went through that

[20:32] myself.

[20:33] So, you need to get it together and do

[20:36] it the right way. You're supposed to get

[20:38] three bids and then take the least, not

[20:41] just go out and get a bid out. We're

[20:43] going to spend the people's money

[20:45] because we don't want to do the

[20:47] footwork.

[20:48] Okay. Thank you, sir. Does anybody else

[20:51] wish to speak on this subject?

[20:59] » Good afternoon, Alice Lopez, 44 North

[21:02] Matthews. Um, I understand that the

[21:05] splash pad is something really important

[21:07] for you, the young children, and it's so

[21:09] hot out there. Uh, but at this point,

[21:11] you have a couple months left. I think

[21:13] you really need to take the time and get

[21:15] city matters in order, have all your

[21:18] staff present because uh even if you

[21:21] want to go out and look for a grant,

[21:24] there's not you don't have enough people

[21:25] to do that. And then when you get out

[21:27] there, you get somebody get these

[21:30] estimates or whatever uh to repair that.

[21:34] Maybe also look into adding some

[21:36] additional things. One of the things

[21:37] that I had suggested at one time is to

[21:39] put a shower uh maybe alongside the

[21:42] bathroom. So that way if they need to

[21:45] run you wash certain things off because

[21:48] we know what's happening out there with

[21:51] the unhoused, they're using that as a

[21:53] shower. So if you put the shower that

[21:56] runs about the same time that the splash

[21:59] pad does, you just have the water on

[22:01] during those times. Everybody can rinse

[22:03] off the unnecessary things before they

[22:06] get on the splash pad. I know that the

[22:08] splash pad was just repainted a year

[22:11] ago, two years ago, and it looks very

[22:14] nice, but with all the additional stuff

[22:16] going into the system, that's why it was

[22:19] constantly down. So, um, unfortunately

[22:23] for the younger children, um, I wish

[22:26] that there was a better answer, but at

[22:28] this point, I don't think, uh, the

[22:31] city's able to do that kind of thing

[22:32] right now.

[22:33] >> Thank you.

[22:36] >> Anybody else wish to speak on the

[22:37] subject?

[22:39] Okay, bringing it back to council

[22:42] and um

[22:44] you know I I I guess one question I as

[22:49] and I don't know if anybody in the city

[22:50] staff has heard like complaints about

[22:53] how long it's been down or

[22:56] anything.

[22:58] >> We have gotten calls to be open

[23:02] a few people.

[23:03] >> Yeah.

[23:05] uh you know I have to say that that even

[23:08] if we hired this company they're they're

[23:10] not guaranteeing that it's going to be

[23:12] operational even when they're done with

[23:14] this first phase and since we are

[23:17] getting closer to October

[23:19] um maybe it does make sense to

[23:23] u have it looked into some more and uh

[23:26] if we could get a grant that would be

[23:28] great um I know Blazen Associates can

[23:31] always check on those things Um and and

[23:36] this is something that possibly we may

[23:38] want to get our city engineer to take a

[23:40] look at also. And um and you know maybe

[23:43] it could if if we're going to go the

[23:45] efforts to to do that maybe we could

[23:47] look at upgrading it some including a

[23:50] shower or anything else.

[23:53] >> So um

[23:56] yes it mentions the chlorine storage

[23:58] tank in here. Do we know what and what

[24:01] kind of shape it's in?

[24:04] We don't have anyone here that could

[24:06] answer that question, but we can get an

[24:08] answer. Yeah.

[24:09] >> Yeah. I think we should look at that.

[24:10] Um, and maybe that'll help us with the

[24:12] timing. You know, if it's compromised in

[24:14] any way, I mean, we really should move

[24:16] forward with some kind of work on it.

[24:18] [clears throat]

[24:18] >> Well, and and if it has a problem where

[24:22] there's a potential for a leak, uh, we

[24:25] better empty it.

[24:26] >> Yeah. Or make sure it's well, if there's

[24:29] we need to empty it if there's a

[24:30] potential leak. So if that's something

[24:33] we can pass on to staff with public

[24:35] works to check in to just make sure

[24:38] everything's

[24:39] there will not be a hazard and I know

[24:42] our fire department knows all about

[24:45] those kind of things too.

[24:47] >> Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

[24:50] So, is this something we want to uh uh

[24:53] basically

[24:55] make a recommendation to staff that they

[24:57] bring back where they look at these

[24:58] other options and then bring it back as

[25:00] a future agenda item and have it ready

[25:03] for when summer starts next year, having

[25:07] it something operational by then?

[25:13] >> Yeah.

[25:15] >> Okay. So, at this point, would we say

[25:17] we're tableabling it?

[25:21] table with get everything in order. Get

[25:23] your bids. Get

[25:25] >> Yeah.

[25:26] >> Have Jason look into can upgrade that

[25:29] for fifths and u

[25:32] see what kind of grants they can get.

[25:34] >> Okay. Do we have a is that a motion to

[25:36] table with those uh

[25:38] >> items included?

[25:40] >> Yes.

[25:43] >> So Tina, that's that's your motion.

[25:45] >> I second it.

[25:46] >> And second by Valdeinos. Does that

[25:48] include in the safety checks and making

[25:50] sure that we empty the tank and if

[25:52] there's part nothing

[25:55] >> um

[25:56] >> worked at that.

[25:57] >> Yeah, it includes that. Okay, but we got

[25:59] that. It's going to happen anyway.

[26:01] Whether it wasn't a motion, but yes, it

[26:02] includes included the motion and second

[26:05] agrees to that. Okay.

[26:07] >> I

[26:10] >> Yes.

[26:14] sir.

[26:16] what she said about the housing using

[26:17] the water

[26:19] you know filter

[26:23] going on maybe

[26:26] shut off after so

[26:31] you know it

[26:33] is

[26:35] afterwards I was thinking

[26:38] >> okay well that's something that be a

[26:40] separate item sir so I don't yeah it's

[26:43] not not on the agenda Okay.

[26:45] >> Yeah.

[26:54] » That's a good idea to consider when we

[26:57] bring it back.

[26:58] >> Okay. Okay.

[27:01] >> All right. Uh Okay. Next item are action

[27:04] items and the first one is discussion

[27:06] regarding the interim city manager. and

[27:09] we interviewed two candidates on um

[27:14] Friday evening

[27:16] and uh

[27:18] the two candidates names

[27:23] um

[27:27] » and what was I know Kevin Northcraft was

[27:30] [snorts]

[27:31] one of the candidates and Bossberg Mr.

[27:34] Bossburg was the second one. And so, uh,

[27:38] I know staff has passed out, uh, their

[27:42] where they reached out for references

[27:44] and and checked out. I know the council

[27:46] has had a chance. I don't know if you've

[27:47] all had a chance to look at that.

[27:49] >> Got that a little bit before the meeting

[27:51] started.

[27:53] Um,

[27:55] but with that, I would I would start

[27:58] with uh asking council members if they

[28:00] have any uh comments and questions. any

[28:04] anything that

[28:07] you would want to add

[28:12] or you need a little more time for for

[28:14] reading the

[28:16] >> Were these sent to us or something?

[28:18] >> Well, they were just handed out before

[28:19] the meeting,

[28:21] >> but we can we could take a little more

[28:23] time to to read it and then and before

[28:26] we make any decisions, we'll ask the

[28:27] public for any comments, too.

[28:36] And maybe a little little background on

[28:38] it is uh well we're this little

[28:41] interlude here. Um the uh uh our

[28:46] police chief Jay Brock uh his last day

[28:49] as interim city manager was last Friday.

[28:53] He's still our police chief. Uh we're

[28:57] trying to get an interim city manager as

[29:00] soon as possible to fill that role

[29:03] because as you can see tonight we don't

[29:05] have everything we need to to carry on

[29:07] business. Um and so uh we interview we

[29:12] actually screened I think there were

[29:14] maybe five people that uh we thought

[29:17] might apply for the job and it turned

[29:20] out that actually only two were

[29:22] available to interview last Friday

[29:24] evening when we're here. And so we did

[29:26] those interviews and so at this point I

[29:31] I'd say it's a decision on the council

[29:34] between those two people that we

[29:36] interviewed.

[29:38] >> What's there's three people. What is

[29:40] this?

[29:42] The Fernando Santan. Is that something

[29:44] different?

[29:48] » Mr. Santion, I think he was available

[29:53] like on a 5050,

[29:56] >> a little bit more than 5050

[29:58] on the phone and every other week he um

[30:03] he has to have a alternate schedule

[30:06] because of his kids. He lives in Fresno

[30:08] and I'm going to be doing this. So, he

[30:11] has to drop at school and then he also

[30:13] has to pick them up from school. And

[30:15] then he also has a commitment on stage

[30:18] uh two stations

[30:20] as well and

[30:23] >> okay so if we wanted a full-time

[30:26] interim city manager there's two if we

[30:28] wanted to consider

[30:30] part-time

[30:32] that could be considered also

[30:35] so basically everything's on the table

[30:37] >> so that Fernando Santan we didn't

[30:39] interview him so is that one

[30:42] >> so can we schedule a date to interview

[30:44] him because I don't want to say that we

[30:46] interviewed two people and this guy we

[30:48] don't even know who he is. We just got

[30:50] it today.

[30:53] >> Well, he he had been contacted earlier,

[30:56] too.

[30:58] Yeah. And uh we can decide to do that or

[31:02] we can decide that we want to make a

[31:04] decision based on who we interview.

[31:22] I think it's more than fair to give

[31:23] everybody interviews.

[31:35] Well,

[31:38] like I said earlier, I think we need to

[31:40] have someone as soon as possible. And if

[31:43] we were satisfied with one of the

[31:45] persons that we interviewed, I think we

[31:48] should make a decision on that,

[31:52] but that's up to us.

[32:00] » So, Paul, tonight is just a discussion

[32:02] of who we're going to choose. That's it.

[32:04] >> It's actually

[32:06] under an action item, so we can take

[32:09] action.

[32:17] But it's is it talking about the

[32:19] employment commitment and

[32:22] compensation and what about the

[32:24] backgrounds checks? They how do they

[32:25] clear?

[32:27] >> We have not done any background checks

[32:29] yet, but if we were to make a decision,

[32:31] we could make it subject to a positive

[32:35] background check. I think that

[32:37] previously happened to us with um Daniel

[32:39] Padilla and we said that we weren't

[32:42] going to do that again. We'd wait for

[32:43] the background check to be completed if

[32:46] I'm correct.

[32:48] >> That's why we would make it contingent,

[32:50] right?

[32:51] >> Yeah.

[32:51] >> That's how they contingent.

[32:53] >> It be contingent

[32:56] on passing.

[32:57] >> That's what we said was in also. I mean,

[33:02] >> yeah, that went sideways for a whole

[33:03] other reason.

[33:05] >> No, it was for that reason.

[33:11] » Yeah,

[33:11] >> I'm happy with um you know, the the

[33:13] responses that we got back from Mr.

[33:15] Northcraftoft. He interviewed really

[33:17] well. Uh he's been in a city manager for

[33:21] position for many years in one way or

[33:23] under or another, either interim or

[33:26] full-time. So, um, yeah, I would

[33:29] consider

[33:30] >> it does Northcraft does stand out with a

[33:32] lot of knowledge and experience. He's

[33:34] done it before. So, and we need to get

[33:36] somebody in here quick. We need to start

[33:37] putting a team together because we don't

[33:38] have a team right now here at the city

[33:39] of Farmsville. We're running just with a

[33:42] few people and and it can't work with

[33:44] the staff we have right now. We got to

[33:45] fill it up soon.

[33:48] >> Okay. Well, before I weigh in, I'd like

[33:50] to open it up to the public. And I know

[33:53] none of you were in the interviews

[33:55] because that was a close session uh

[33:58] personnel issue, but if anybody wants to

[34:00] talk, you know, come up to the podium

[34:01] and speak about it, please please do so.

[34:05] >> Is this guy local or out of town?

[34:08] >> He's uh lives in Tallery, I believe. I

[34:11] know he was their city manager before.

[34:13] >> Okay. He done city manager before, but

[34:16] without a background check, you don't

[34:18] know what he'd like. and and there's

[34:23] jobs you can't get minimum wage jobs.

[34:26] Remember what happened to the last one?

[34:28] year you let him go and he had

[34:31] experience. Are we going to go through

[34:33] that again?

[34:35] >> By the way, we're hiring someone to be

[34:37] interim for a sixmon approximately a

[34:40] six-month term and then what can happen

[34:44] is that that person can help go through

[34:46] the the selection process for the

[34:48] long-term city manager.

[34:53] Okay.

[34:56] » Okay. Is there anybody else wishes could

[34:58] come up

[35:00] >> so Paul I do have

[35:02] >> well okay well just this gentleman

[35:04] >> what the qualifications would be for

[35:06] city managers

[35:09] >> um and and you don't have to come

[35:11] forward we could hear you from there.

[35:12] Okay. Uh I I don't have the list in

[35:15] front of me, but um the preference was

[35:18] to have someone with city manager

[35:20] experience.

[35:22] Um

[35:22] >> any degrees,

[35:26] » you know, um for the long-term city

[35:28] manager, we were talking about having, I

[35:30] believe, a master's in public

[35:31] administration.

[35:33] I'm not sure

[35:36] if these candidates have that.

[35:39] I know. At least bachelor's degrees

[35:41] [snorts]

[35:43] >> or associates or something.

[35:44] >> Oh, at least bachelors.

[35:47] >> Yeah.

[35:49] >> Okay. Thank you.

[35:51] Any other comments or questions?

[35:55] Okay. We'll bring it back to the

[35:56] council.

[35:57] >> I do have a kind of a question um in

[36:00] regards to this. Um I I saw the email

[36:03] earlier and I asked Mike if I could

[36:06] comment on it. Um, if as you stated

[36:10] being the mayor is only for ceremonial

[36:14] purposes.

[36:14] >> Exactly.

[36:16] >> Then why was it discussed that we would

[36:19] have Farley do the negotiations for us

[36:22] and all that

[36:23] >> that was in the email?

[36:25] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[36:27] without our

[36:30] >> so the council didn't know about

[36:32] >> he he is he has done that before

[36:36] and if that's something that the council

[36:38] does not want to occur

[36:43] we can do it differently

[36:44] >> I was just thinking since the mayor is

[36:46] supposed to be only ceremonial purposes

[36:49] why would you bring that to Barley and

[36:53] ask him that that is something that the

[36:56] council should discuss Yes.

[36:59] >> And and according to the email, looks

[37:01] like you already have picked a

[37:02] candidate. And I just have a question.

[37:05] Does anybody know this candidate Kevin

[37:08] Northcrap that I mean if we end up

[37:10] picking them

[37:12] again in the past we failed we failed we

[37:16] managers because again

[37:19] >> someone has always referred that person

[37:22] and so I thought the discussion was that

[37:24] we're going to try to steer away from

[37:25] that. Um, I'm not gonna I know we can't

[37:29] discuss close session items, but I'm

[37:31] going to say this and I'm gonna say it

[37:33] as carefully as I can.

[37:37] When I asked my 16-year-old to go get a

[37:40] job, he threw a big old fit.

[37:44] Mr. Kevin,

[37:46] that's what it sound like. It sounded

[37:47] like someone holded his hand like, "You

[37:49] have to come and take this job or else

[37:50] you're out." That's what I felt like.

[37:54] Mr. Nate then brings so much experience.

[37:58] His heart is there for the community. He

[38:00] would advocate for the community. His

[38:03] number one goal was the community.

[38:05] >> Yes.

[38:06] >> It was not about himself.

[38:09] >> He [clears throat] did his homework

[38:10] about the community.

[38:13] This man, Mr. uh Nathan has so much

[38:18] his wealth of knowledge, so many

[38:20] resources. I think he would just bring

[38:23] it would benefit the city of

[38:24] Farmersville,

[38:26] especially what's going on right now. We

[38:27] need some more positiveness. We need

[38:29] people that know their stuff. We know

[38:31] people that are not going to use the

[38:32] city and we're not we want people that

[38:34] are not going to have get easy money

[38:36] from the city anymore.

[38:39] Um, Mr. Nathan, I think he's the best

[38:42] candidate

[38:45] and I'm going to leave it as that.

[38:48] And I just I got to say that I I just

[38:50] hope as council members I hope we make

[38:52] the best decision for the best interest

[38:54] of the people

[38:56] >> of the people.

[38:58] >> And so who's going to treat the people

[39:00] right and you could tell with Nathan the

[39:04] type of personality he had? He was very

[39:07] energetic

[39:08] and he is very knowledgeable. And um

[39:13] I know you you you know the other

[39:15] candidate and that's where I'm I I don't

[39:21] >> anyway

[39:23] >> we don't know

[39:23] >> if I can just

[39:24] >> so just the time

[39:26] >> respond one thing when you say I know

[39:28] the candidate I know through my previous

[39:31] employment I worked uh with a project in

[39:34] the city of Taller when he was the city

[39:37] manager roughly 20 25 years ago and So,

[39:40] I went to some meetings he was at there.

[39:43] Um,

[39:45] you know, that's that's as much as I

[39:47] know him. Uh, I did make some phone

[39:50] calls uh to uh the the member of the

[39:55] Chamber of Commerce in uh in Toeri. Um

[40:00] got positive feedback from him. uh

[40:03] talked with uh county supervisor, had

[40:06] positive things to say about not only

[40:08] his work experience as a city manager,

[40:11] but his character and he also uh was on

[40:16] the Deli District Hospital Board and

[40:20] helped clean things up over there and

[40:22] was their their president for some some

[40:24] time. He's also had a number of uh

[40:28] assignments or or let me put it this way

[40:30] jobs where he's uh been the u interim

[40:35] city manager and this is after he served

[40:37] the 10 years there in Toeri and uh

[40:41] positive feedback from those

[40:44] assignments.

[40:46] Um

[40:47] so in my mind he's qualified. Another

[40:51] thing that I think is an advantage to

[40:53] the city if we do choose him is that

[40:56] he's a retired Kalpers uh annuitant and

[41:01] uh and that means that uh we don't have

[41:04] to pay uh extra for a lot of fringe and

[41:09] things like that that um we would for

[41:11] anybody else in the position

[41:14] >> and and he only wants a job for six

[41:16] months and and I think in our case it

[41:18] makes sense to have someone for

[41:21] roughly that period of time because we

[41:22] want to wait till after election in

[41:24] November, see who the council is at that

[41:26] time and that council

[41:28] can that he could work with that council

[41:30] to, you know, get a long-term city

[41:33] manager afterwards. I I don't think it's

[41:36] a good idea to get try to get a

[41:37] long-term city manager right now before

[41:40] the election.

[41:43] So, those are my thoughts on it.

[41:47] Well, we know how this is going to go.

[41:49] So, go ahead and make your motion.

[41:54] » Any any other comments? Because I am

[41:56] willing to make a motion. But any other

[41:58] comments from any other council members?

[42:00] >> I just feel Kevin or Prep is perfect

[42:01] right now for us to get him right now at

[42:03] the moment. He's got the knowledge, the

[42:04] experience. He's got good reference,

[42:06] good feedback,

[42:07] people saying nothing but good things

[42:09] about him. He's worked at many other

[42:11] places where he's helped improve other

[42:14] cities, got them out of meth and you

[42:16] know left them in a better state. So I

[42:18] don't see why we can't get him somebody

[42:20] already been in that situation work with

[42:22] this you know as city manager. So

[42:25] >> and thank you to human resources for

[42:27] doing the

[42:29] >> Thank you.

[42:31] >> Okay. Well, I'm I'm going to make a

[42:33] motion and I move to approve a

[42:35] contingent offer offer of employment to

[42:38] Kevin Northcraft for the position of

[42:40] interim city manager contingent upon

[42:43] successful completion and approval by

[42:45] city council of a background check and

[42:48] review and approval by the city council

[42:49] of the interim city manager employment

[42:51] contract

[42:53] >> and I second it.

[42:56] >> Any further discussion?

[42:59] Okay.

[43:00] >> I

[43:04] >> no.

[43:08] >> Okay.

[43:09] We'll move on with the next item which

[43:11] is uh related to discussion regarding

[43:14] interim city attorney.

[43:16] And um at after our last regular council

[43:20] meeting, our city attorney sent us all

[43:24] an email saying that he was going to be

[43:27] resigning the city attorney. However, he

[43:30] would continue on until we have a

[43:34] replacement.

[43:36] Um part of continuing on though means

[43:40] he's not going to council meetings where

[43:42] you can see it would be very helpful to

[43:44] have an an attorney here. And so

[43:48] um this is just for discussion right

[43:51] now. I know we we've got a

[43:53] [clears throat]

[43:54] a pretty old proposal that came from uh

[43:58] Moses Diaz um years ago. Interesting

[44:03] being uh interim city attorney. Um but

[44:07] personally, I think we ought to take

[44:09] some time to

[44:11] um do some more research and and and

[44:16] um you know, we we definitely need to go

[44:17] through a request for proposals for a

[44:20] long-term city attorney. Uh it's it's

[44:22] our decision if we want to have a more

[44:25] streamlined approach for an interim, but

[44:27] I just want to open up for discussion.

[44:37] If anybody wishes to speak on the

[44:39] council, we're open to comments from

[44:43] the public after we've had a chance to

[44:45] say something and we'll bring it back to

[44:46] council.

[44:47] >> Is there recommendations from League of

[44:49] Cities at all?

[44:51] I you know I know that Jay had sent

[44:54] something out there asking for a

[44:56] response and

[45:03] » you say

[45:06] can you follow up on that and and see if

[45:09] we've gotten anything because we want to

[45:12] put it out there and um Yeah.

[45:20] And the attorney that you mentioned

[45:23] right now, where is he coming from?

[45:25] >> He's I I believe Vicelia.

[45:28] Uh the the name of the firm is Public

[45:31] Interest Law Firm. He [clears throat]

[45:32] used to work for the Farley Law Firm. He

[45:34] was our

[45:36] he was the person that was assigned to

[45:38] us for quite a while

[45:41] and then he went off and spun off in his

[45:43] own company with some I'm not sure who

[45:45] else is in it now.

[45:49] who recommended him?

[45:54] » I believe that

[45:57] Mike Farley said that he was he knew he

[45:59] was available and also I believe that um

[46:05] I think uh Jay Brock had said that uh we had a proposal from him which is what

[46:11] we have right here. But that's as much as I I could tell you.

[46:17] Any

[46:28] comments from council members before we

[46:30] open up the public?

[46:32] Okay, let's open up the public. Is

[46:34] anybody wish to speak on this item? We

[46:37] know we all know we need an attorney.

[46:40] You know, any good city attorneys out

[46:41] there are send them our way.

[46:48] Okay.

[46:51] I know this it's it's a kind of a tough

[46:54] thing to

[46:56] you know you don't find city attorneys

[46:58] that easy.

[47:00] >> Just one last comment. I mean if he was

[47:02] referred by Mike Farley and J Brock and

[47:05] both of them have resigned,

[47:07] isn't that a pattern that he will resign

[47:10] too?

[47:11] So

[47:13] >> I can't say that.

[47:19] » Well, let let's how about if we talk

[47:20] about a process here and and one process

[47:24] I would suggest is with our new interim

[47:28] city manager after he starts assuming

[47:31] everything's works out all right. Uh,

[47:34] I I think that he could help go through

[47:38] that process in uh both getting an

[47:42] interim and a long-term

[47:44] city attorney. And

[47:47] does that sound like a reasonable

[47:49] approach?

[47:53] » My only concern is not having somebody

[47:55] here during our meetings.

[47:58] >> Yes.

[47:58] >> Um because I think that opens us up to

[48:01] liability. Not just personal liability,

[48:04] but liability for the city.

[48:06] >> Yeah.

[48:06] >> So, you know, I

[48:10] that's a risk.

[48:13] >> Just I also just want to make sure he's

[48:16] not getting paid the whole amount since

[48:18] he's not showing up.

[48:21] >> Well, I think he's charges by the hour

[48:26] » to be here.

[48:28] >> Yeah.

[48:28] >> Awesome.

[48:30] But he would not be getting paid for

[48:32] being into

[48:34] that meetings at this point.

[48:37] Okay. Well, I uh it sounds to me like

[48:39] this is something that needs to get

[48:40] tabled.

[48:43] » I think if we make a decision, it's

[48:45] going to have to be at the next meeting.

[48:47] >> Okay. So,

[48:49] >> so table this to the next

[48:51] >> Yeah.

[48:52] >> council meeting, which I think is

[48:54] September 14th. So, [snorts] is it

[48:56] getting tabled to the next council

[48:57] meeting, Paul, or is it going to be what

[48:59] you said and it's going to be the

[49:00] interim city manager that's going to

[49:02] work on it? Well, of course, I'm sure

[49:03] you're going to be there helping him.

[49:05] Which one is it going to be?

[49:11] » Well,

[49:11] >> I thought I thought you said that when

[49:14] we get the interim city manager.

[49:16] >> Well, I mean, I'm happy to make a

[49:18] decision right now if that's what you

[49:19] would like.

[49:21] >> I wasn't speaking to you, Greg. I was

[49:22] talking to Paul.

[49:24] >> St.

[49:25] Why does it always have to count on you,

[49:27] Greg? You always have to make decisions.

[49:29] >> Okay, let let's let's get Okay, back to Okay. Um,

[49:36] >> well, I will say this. You know, we

[49:38] Nothing's going to happen until the

[49:40] council takes action.

[49:42] >> Well, you guys might as well take action

[49:44] because you guys are going to agree on

[49:46] it. You guys are going to go against us.

[49:47] >> We need to table it all. We need to uh

[49:50] talk to Vegas cities.

[49:54] >> Yeah. and and and that's that's my

[49:56] recommendation that we table this until

[50:00] the the next meeting regular meeting

[50:02] which will be September 14th. By that

[50:04] time hopefully we'll have our inner city

[50:06] manager

[50:10] ready and also uh hopefully uh we'll

[50:13] have some information from League of

[50:15] Cities and and any other avenues we can

[50:20] you know start searching

[50:24] So is that is that a motion to table

[50:27] till

[50:28] the next meeting? So

[50:30] >> yeah, I'll second it.

[50:32] >> And we need to get attorneys.

[50:36] >> Hi.

[50:39] >> Yes.

[50:40] >> No.

[50:43] >> Okay. Uh next item is uh we have council

[50:47] reports and

[50:50] Tina, you want to start your end? Well,

[50:52] go ahead. Skip me for right now. Come

[50:54] back to it.

[50:55] >> Okay. Or

[50:57] >> none for me.

[50:59] >> Wait a minute. We didn't do future

[51:00] agenda items, do we?

[51:02] >> Oh, sorry.

[51:06] » Uh, Greg.

[51:08] >> No.

[51:10] >> Danny.

[51:14] » Okay. Well, one thing I'll I'll mention

[51:16] is the Economic Development Corporation.

[51:19] I went to a meeting Wednesday last week

[51:21] and that the decision of the board was

[51:25] to dissolve the EDC

[51:29] uh

[51:30] and uh they looked at like the last five

[51:33] years and how the the balance of

[51:38] finances was going down and uh even

[51:40] though they were cutting back

[51:41] significantly on staff

[51:44] uh they decided it's best to dissolve

[51:46] while they still have funds to go

[51:48] through the dissolution process. They

[51:49] also um and the suggestion was that we

[51:53] voted on whatever funds are left over

[51:55] would go to the EDC foundation

[51:59] which um

[52:01] uh can still receive grants from um

[52:04] entities such as bankier which donated

[52:07] 25,000 this year to to the cre because

[52:11] of the community community reinvestment

[52:14] act. Um the next meeting is going to be

[52:18] on October 28th and at that point

[52:21] there'll probably be more information on

[52:24] the process. U in the meantime too um

[52:29] talking with um

[52:33] Mike and Alita that work for Tallery

[52:35] County Economic Development Office,

[52:38] which is a separate entity through the

[52:39] county. um they're they're still willing

[52:42] to work with the smaller cities to uh

[52:45] help with economic development and so we

[52:48] can call on them if

[52:51] and and at this point they're not

[52:52] charging anything so it's worth doing.

[52:55] Uh and other larger cities such as

[52:57] Vicelia they have their own economic

[53:00] development staff. Same thing with

[53:01] Taller, same thing with um with

[53:04] Porterville. So, uh, I think the smaller

[53:07] cities, you know, if we want to, um,

[53:10] could could possibly align with the

[53:12] county or we could try to do something

[53:14] different, but just want to give an

[53:16] update on that that it looks like the EC

[53:19] is is going away.

[53:22] And that's my only council report. And

[53:26] so, we'll go at this point for uh,

[53:29] manager reports and for city engineer

[53:32] Jason.

[53:35] done. So we got all the information sent

[53:37] out tomorrow

[53:40] just basically tell them what they need.

[53:43] Obviously they have to do it for their

[53:44] own lenders but that was all done and

[53:46] researched and completed. So I went

[53:48] through that as well.

[53:52] » Thank you Jason. You went above and

[53:53] beyond. You didn't have to do that but

[53:55] you did. Um I already uh let the

[53:58] neighbors know especially all the other

[54:00] streets. um they're very grateful about

[54:03] it because again they're very low income

[54:06] and they didn't know where this money

[54:07] was going to come from. And so I I truly

[54:10] appreciate you that you did that.

[54:11] >> Yeah. And good job. And and I was going

[54:13] to ask Tina, I know you first brought

[54:15] this up and and I don't know if this

[54:17] addressed all the properties that you

[54:20] had mentioned uh that might be on the

[54:22] other side of

[54:24] um

[54:26] the other side I think on on Virginia

[54:28] maybe on the on the south side of the

[54:31] bullet of Vicelia road. Uh, and so and I

[54:35] didn't want to because of the Brown Act,

[54:36] I know I was talking with Arceli, I

[54:39] didn't want to be talking with you about

[54:40] at the same time, but this is something

[54:41] that I think could come back as an

[54:42] agenda item to discuss all of it.

[54:47] >> Yeah, if that sounds reasonable to you.

[54:49] >> I thought letters were already sent out

[54:51] to all the residents to let them know

[54:52] that it was taken out of the

[54:54] >> concern.

[54:56] No, but before because I had Eddie

[55:00] um reach out to city manager and he

[55:05] >> he sent over a letter that should have

[55:06] been sent out to all the residents a

[55:08] while back

[55:09] >> and and and my understanding

[55:12] >> I don't think they were based on

[55:14] attorney's

[55:16] >> opinion and and in this case instead of

[55:19] coming out from the city it came from

[55:21] Jason at at four creeks and it was

[55:23] worded differently and and

[55:25] Mr. Farley reviewed that letter

[55:28] >> because Eddie's

[55:29] he's a blood guy that I use

[55:33] [clears throat]

[55:34] the one when the flood zone map changed

[55:36] I found the person that repaired the

[55:38] entire flood zone. So she went through

[55:40] the entire like to make sure I fully

[55:42] comprehended what she did. So I had a

[55:45] good understanding of what she did which

[55:46] essentially is just more or less she

[55:48] just removed stuff she really had.

[55:52] >> So basically zones are right next to the

[55:54] channel.

[55:55] >> So that's why I'm recommend we bring it

[55:57] back as an agenda item for covering all

[55:59] those other properties. Uh Tina and if

[56:02] the is it Mr. Perez the surveyor, you

[56:05] know, has that input that maybe that

[56:06] could get to Jason, too.

[56:09] >> That that would be good.

[56:10] >> Mayor, that was that was just wasted

[56:12] time. Ben, was Eddie?

[56:13] >> So, Mayor Paul, so since the city

[56:16] dropped the ball on this um people did

[56:18] go out there and purchase flood

[56:20] insurance.

[56:21] >> Well, they did.

[56:21] >> And they did uh get a city an engineer

[56:24] to come and get them out of the flood

[56:26] zone. Um what can that be done for that?

[56:30] Well, I'm not sure. The city dropped the

[56:32] ball. I think the attorney was was

[56:34] concerned about the liability of the way

[56:36] the letter the letter was written.

[56:39] >> Was that recently?

[56:40] >> Was that recently? The letter

[56:44] >> we were told it was going to get sent

[56:46] out a long a while back.

[56:47] >> Yeah. I don't think you were included,

[56:48] Paul, but there was months ago um

[56:50] >> this was already happening

[56:52] >> and it was reported to the um city clerk

[56:56] and city manager about it and it never

[56:59] happened. So, um, everything that you

[57:01] sent me, Jason, we already had it.

[57:04] >> Okay.

[57:04] >> Um, yeah.

[57:05] >> All I say is we've talked a lot about it

[57:07] and we ought to have as an agenda item

[57:08] and then we could go in more details.

[57:11] >> Okay.

[57:13] >> Do you want that as anformational item?

[57:18] >> Uh, well, and and to consider the

[57:20] additional properties that you have you

[57:24] have

[57:24] >> to find out.

[57:25] >> Yeah.

[57:26] >> Why wasn't anything done back then?

[57:28] because now our people have had to pay

[57:29] out of pocket. So I would like to know

[57:32] when the city attorney stated that that

[57:34] letter was

[57:36] not to be sent out

[57:38] >> because I was the misunderstanding and I

[57:40] did a lot of the leg work also emailing

[57:43] and he would call me because nobody had

[57:45] emailed him. So I want to make sure

[57:48] >> why wasn't that letter sent out to our

[57:50] people. So yeah, if you could put that

[57:52] on the agenda and find out all the

[57:54] answers, I would really appreciate that.

[57:57] Okay.

[57:59] >> Yeah. Well, you're you're you're not

[58:01] responsible for that part. Okay. It's

[58:03] trying to get the new letters out to the

[58:05] people that didn't get it before. I

[58:07] believe that in the format that you

[58:10] prepared.

[58:10] >> Yeah.

[58:11] >> Okay. Anything else?

[58:19] » So, they didn't quite

[58:22] making sure.

[58:25] So they're moving very tough now

[58:31] at the end. So that's a good thing. Um

[58:33] and then I got as meeting I got challen

[58:40] right now.

[58:43] We all going to regular roundabout. You

[58:45] kind of see how they play into

[58:46] everything. So roundabouts will be

[58:48] conceptual at this point time but you'll

[58:50] be able to see how they tie in and then

[58:51] you'll get to see someone from the

[58:53] county will be here. I'm working with

[58:55] that. It's going to actually be able to

[58:57] answer any questions. I'll probably have

[58:59] a couple staff members here that are

[59:01] working with 280 design itself as well.

[59:03] So, it'll be more of a presentation. You

[59:05] guys can ask questions. You guys are

[59:07] getting questions on it.

[59:10] >> That's great. Thank you. Thank you,

[59:13] >> Chief.

[59:21] That's something we could look into in

[59:22] the future, but go ahead, Chief.

[59:25] So

[59:27] fire department at the senior center we

[59:28] did a heat illness presentation last

[59:31] week and enjoy that. Our next

[59:34] presentation will be in two two or three

[59:38] weeks. We're going to bring in a lot of

[59:39] our tools and equipment to do kind of a

[59:41] short display with seniors. And the

[59:46] other news I have we had six went out

[59:49] this morning the timber fire.

[59:52] >> Oh wow. We'll be there again.

[59:56] >> Wow. And and and they've already come

[59:59] back from two other wildfires.

[1:00:01] >> They came back from the other ones. And

[1:00:02] so this morning I dispatched that.

[1:00:06] >> Wow.

[1:00:13] » Okay. Okay. And Sergeant Prost, we don't

[1:00:15] want to put you on the spot, but

[1:00:17] anything you want to report on from the

[1:00:18] police department?

[1:00:19] >> Uh nothing at this time.

[1:00:21] >> Okay. Okay. Thank you. call for council

[1:00:23] reports. I'm not sure when I can bring

[1:00:24] this up, but um I I still want to get

[1:00:27] all those in in those minutes from the

[1:00:30] last meeting. I was unable to speak

[1:00:33] >> and um change that. So, I would like to

[1:00:36] one of these days put that on the agenda

[1:00:38] soon

[1:00:40] >> so that I could get my minutes changed

[1:00:43] and my input. I I I believe what's being

[1:00:47] worked on is to have um

[1:00:52] verbate uh recordings

[1:00:55] of of everything

[1:00:57] uh and and and I'm talking about going

[1:00:59] forward and I'm not sure I can answer

[1:01:01] everything about going backwards, but going forwards uh recordings and

[1:01:06] then uh but we would have to vote if we

[1:01:08] want just summary minutes

[1:01:11] from that are typed but having the

[1:01:14] recordings that stay basically as long

[1:01:16] as the minutes stay that that could be

[1:01:18] looked at. Um and um obviously we know

[1:01:22] that you know depending on the length of

[1:01:23] a meeting sometimes those

[1:01:26] you know I I I think one of them was

[1:01:28] over 12 pages single spaced and still

[1:01:31] didn't cover everything. So but um

[1:01:34] that's that's not forgotten about what

[1:01:36] you said about in the past to to get get

[1:01:40] that together.

[1:01:42] Okay. Anything else? Council comments.

[1:01:46] >> Yeah. Um about the minutes again. Yeah.

[1:01:48] >> Um so we've always done summary minutes.

[1:01:52] >> Yeah.

[1:01:53] >> We never move to do transcription

[1:01:58] or, you know, to have somebody sit there

[1:01:59] and listen to the recording for however

[1:02:01] long it takes to manually type it out.

[1:02:05] Um why are we flip-flopping back and

[1:02:07] forth?

[1:02:08] >> Because the context is not there, Greg.

[1:02:10] That's why we're flip-flopping back. I I

[1:02:13] think we need to bring it to us and then

[1:02:16] make a decision how we want it done. But

[1:02:18] it seemed like it would be a good comp

[1:02:20] compromise if we

[1:02:22] um if we do the the recordings that

[1:02:26] anybody could look at or listen to and

[1:02:28] then we have summary minutes which makes

[1:02:30] it easier on the clerk. I I believe

[1:02:33] what's being looked at too is whether or

[1:02:35] not we can have some sort of um the it

[1:02:37] looking at it here for a screen for live

[1:02:40] streaming and making it so that the

[1:02:43] meetings are available to people online

[1:02:45] on a regular basis. Um, right now it's

[1:02:48] on Zoom, right?

[1:02:50] >> It's just Zoom. So, we're working on

[1:02:53] YouTube live and also Yeah. do all new

[1:02:56] microphones that'll be on the next.

[1:02:58] >> So, is this meeting recorded?

[1:03:00] >> Is this meeting being recorded

[1:03:02] >> on Zoom? Yes.

[1:03:03] >> Okay.

[1:03:05] >> Yeah.

[1:03:05] >> Um, I'm going back to the council

[1:03:08] reports again. Um, where are the August

[1:03:11] 10th meetings? We should have had them

[1:03:13] today. That's two weeks passed by now.

[1:03:16] So, that's lack of transparency for the

[1:03:18] public.

[1:03:20] Um, I don't see them attached on here.

[1:03:23] And so, that's my question. Mayor Paul,

[1:03:25] where are they at?

[1:03:28] >> You know, uh, at this point, I I told

[1:03:32] staff, let's [snorts] take care of, you

[1:03:35] know, the items that we already

[1:03:36] discussed tonight. uh they would be

[1:03:39] coming back in the future with

[1:03:42] so they will be coming but they're not here tonight.

[1:03:46] >> And another um item I do have on here um

[1:03:50] after the reorganization

[1:03:53] on July the 20th

[1:03:55] the I brought it back well Mayor Paul

[1:03:59] that day you did say that to put it on

[1:04:01] the agenda for the dos and don'ts for

[1:04:03] council for training. Again, I brought

[1:04:05] it back on July the 27th and it's still

[1:04:08] not on here and I've been asking it at

[1:04:09] every meeting and it's still not as a

[1:04:12] future agenda item.

[1:04:15] >> Okay,

[1:04:16] >> Mayor Boyer, I don't need to

[1:04:18] >> Well, if I could just respond, you know,

[1:04:21] uh I believe that dos and don'ts, we'd

[1:04:23] want to have an attorney

[1:04:25] do that. And right now, we don't have an

[1:04:27] attorney that's going to be here. So, I

[1:04:28] think we need to wait till we have one.

[1:04:30] >> Can we add it on the agenda? Because

[1:04:31] I've been asking to put it on the

[1:04:32] agenda. Yeah, we can put it on the

[1:04:37] dos and don'ts. Okay.

[1:04:42] You got that for future agenda.

[1:04:44] Okay. Yeah.

[1:04:45] >> The reason why I want to bring those

[1:04:47] minutes back is because the context is

[1:04:49] not in there. The residents have a right

[1:04:52] to know exactly why things were done and

[1:04:54] what was said and a lot of that is

[1:04:57] missing. the most important things are

[1:04:59] missing which really makes me concerned

[1:05:04] and that's what I'm asking.

[1:05:06] >> Okay. Okay.

[1:05:08] >> I I heard you and I know there's a

[1:05:10] number of meetings where I know I said

[1:05:12] things too but they're not in there.

[1:05:14] >> They didn't have a chance. But that's

[1:05:16] the thing. You could have changed your

[1:05:17] minutes when it was my turn to to do the

[1:05:20] minutes to make my changes. You guys

[1:05:22] made a motion.

[1:05:24] >> Or no, you know what? That's when you

[1:05:26] guys took a break and then when we came

[1:05:28] back I thought I was going to have a

[1:05:30] chance and then you shut me down and you

[1:05:32] guys made a motion and it was three to

[1:05:35] two. So I was out I didn't even get a

[1:05:36] chance but as gave a little bit of the

[1:05:39] minutes that she wanted corrected. I was

[1:05:41] not given a chance to correct any of the

[1:05:43] minutes

[1:05:44] >> and I had never ever

[1:05:46] asked to correct any of the minutes

[1:05:49] since I've been on this council. And the

[1:05:51] one time I asked to have them corrected,

[1:05:53] I was shut down.

[1:05:57] And those were very important, the

[1:06:00] context. So

[1:06:01] >> we can bring it.

[1:06:03] >> My opinion is we could bring those back,

[1:06:06] >> but it will be with a full not not just

[1:06:10] what one person asked for.

[1:06:12] >> No, there's a recording. I open house

[1:06:14] and I I listen to the whole recording

[1:06:16] and I keep saying that's exactly what I

[1:06:18] was trying to put in there.

[1:06:19] >> Okay. But I wasn't given the

[1:06:20] opportunity. And then because there were

[1:06:23] no minutes to go over, that's not good

[1:06:25] that you do that because it's like, you

[1:06:28] know, we have our jobs and we have our

[1:06:29] families. So what happened on the last

[1:06:31] meeting we're going to have to take

[1:06:33] notes on to bring it to this. No, now

[1:06:35] we're going to have to wait till the

[1:06:36] next meeting. So

[1:06:39] that's not that's not fair to us to do

[1:06:41] that.

[1:06:42] >> Well, at the ne Okay. Well, for the next meeting, there's no problem having

[1:06:47] the minutes for this meeting and the

[1:06:50] last previous one, right?

[1:06:52] >> Not my point.

[1:06:53] >> No, I know. But the earlier ones, too,

[1:06:55] that's part of that whole thing with the

[1:06:58] >> Yeah. reporting and

[1:07:00] >> um so that should be a priority on our

[1:07:02] future agenda items, the reporting of

[1:07:04] the city council meetings. It's still

[1:07:06] there's a TBD on here and it's been a

[1:07:09] TBD. So that should be a workshop, a

[1:07:13] discussion. It should be a priority

[1:07:16] because again

[1:07:17] >> the minutes have been

[1:07:19] >> incorrect items that I said I want them

[1:07:21] on the record have been removed.

[1:07:24] >> So there's lack of transparency. Our

[1:07:26] public deserve that and nothing less.

[1:07:30] >> Okay. Anything else?

[1:07:31] >> No.

[1:07:32] >> Okay.

[1:07:34] uh

[1:07:36] for tonight's meeting. We don't have any

[1:07:39] uh we don't have any close session

[1:07:42] and uh at this point the meeting could

[1:07:45] be adjourned. Thank you everybody for

[1:07:47] coming. Thank you.

City of Farmersville City Council Meeting 8-24-2026

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