[0:00] live vicariously

[0:09] somebody who

[0:14] [laughter]

[0:29] » I'll tell you But

[0:31] you guys,

[0:54] » go ahead.

[0:58] » Mr. Tucker

[1:02] looking good.

[1:03] >> Recording in progress.

[1:05] >> Thank you.

[1:07] >> Clearance.

[1:08] >> All right. Welcome everyone. It's now

[1:10] 6:31 p.m. I'd like to call to order the

[1:12] Fenton Township board meeting on this

[1:14] Tuesday, the 15th day of September,

[1:16] 2026. I would ask everyone to please

[1:18] stand for the opening prayer and the

[1:19] pledge of allegiance. Trusty Go, will

[1:21] you lead us?

[1:22] >> Yes, sir. Thank you.

[1:24] Heavenly Father, bless us as we gather

[1:27] here tonight. We ask you guide us in our

[1:30] conversations.

[1:31] Remove all distractions from our minds

[1:33] so that we may have clear communication

[1:36] and understanding with one another.

[1:38] Continue to look over our community and

[1:40] country. Help us to remember the reason

[1:43] we are here tonight, which is to serve

[1:45] our fellow man and community.

[1:48] Continue to bless us and our country in

[1:50] your most holy name. Amen.

[1:54] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[1:57] United States of America and to the

[1:59] republic for which it stands. One nation

[2:03] under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[2:06] justice for all.

[2:10] » As always, Mark. Thanks. Clerk Krug,

[2:13] please call the role.

[2:14] >> Yes. Lorraine,

[2:16] >> present.

[2:17] >> Reed

[2:17] >> here.

[2:18] >> Clark

[2:19] >> here.

[2:21] Pug is present. Kesler

[2:23] >> here.

[2:24] >> Gopal

[2:24] >> here.

[2:25] >> Tucker

[2:26] >> present.

[2:26] >> You have a full board.

[2:28] >> All right. Thanks. I'd also like to know

[2:30] for the record that our township

[2:31] attorney Jack Belzer, our operations

[2:33] manager, Tom Broker, our zoning

[2:35] administrator, Mike Dee, our fire chief,

[2:37] Ryan Boltz, and our assistant manager,

[2:40] Megan Gito, are present this evening.

[2:42] Julia, I thought she was going to be

[2:43] here this No, she's not.

[2:45] >> Oh, she would not be here. All right.

[2:47] Uh, additionally, the following uh,

[2:48] township officials are present via Zoom.

[2:51] Uh, our township engineers, uh, Alan and

[2:54] Melissa Lawrence. Tom, will you detail

[2:55] the procedures for those attending

[2:57] tonight's virtual meeting?

[2:58] >> Yes. To members of the public attending

[3:00] tonight's meeting in person or via Zoom,

[3:02] please be advised the meeting is being

[3:03] recorded to be shown on public access TV

[3:06] on Spectrum channel 191. Recorded

[3:08] meetings are also posted on the Fenton

[3:10] Area Community Television YouTube

[3:12] channel. For those attending via Zoom,

[3:14] we ask that you keep your microphone

[3:15] muted. until we reach portions of the

[3:17] meeting where public comment is allowed.

[3:19] For tonight's meeting, there are two

[3:20] public hearings, one for the Stony Brook

[3:22] 2 street lighting special assessment and

[3:24] one for the 2026 fire protection special

[3:27] assessment, both of which will include

[3:29] public comment. All other public comment

[3:31] will be taken near the end of the

[3:32] meeting. Meeting materials are available

[3:34] for download on the township's website

[3:35] at bettownship.org.

[3:37] >> Thanks, Tom. All right, moving on to the

[3:39] first business order is the approval of

[3:40] the agenda. Are there any requests

[3:41] tonight to amend tonight's agenda?

[3:44] Hearing none. A motion is in order to

[3:46] approve the agenda as presented.

[3:48] >> A motion to approve.

[3:49] >> Second.

[3:49] >> All right. Motion's been moved and

[3:50] seconded. Any further discussion?

[3:53] Hearing none. Cler Kirby, you please

[3:54] call the role.

[3:54] >> I vote yes. Clark,

[3:56] >> yes.

[3:57] >> Kesler,

[3:57] >> yes.

[3:58] >> Reed,

[3:59] >> yes.

[3:59] >> Gopal,

[4:00] >> yes.

[4:00] >> Tucker,

[4:01] >> yes.

[4:02] >> Rain,

[4:02] >> yes.

[4:03] >> Motion passes.

[4:04] >> Agenda stands approved as presented.

[4:06] Moving on to meeting minutes. Included

[4:07] in the packet are the meeting minutes

[4:08] from the September 1st regular meeting.

[4:10] Are there any corrections or requested

[4:12] revisions to these meeting minutes?

[4:15] Hearing none, the meeting minutes stand

[4:16] approved as presented. Next business

[4:19] order is expenditures. Are there any

[4:20] questions from the board regarding any

[4:21] of the invoices?

[4:25] Hearing none, I will entertain a motion

[4:27] regarding the payment of expenditures

[4:28] totaling 920,444.32

[4:31] cents for payment. Make a motion to

[4:34] expand to approve expenditures in amount

[4:36] 900,440.

[4:40] How much?

[4:41] >> 44432.

[4:42] >> 4432 as presented.

[4:45] >> Second.

[4:45] >> All right. Motion's been moved and

[4:46] seconded. Any further discussion?

[4:48] [snorts]

[4:49] >> Hearing none. Cler crew, will you please

[4:50] call the role?

[4:51] >> Reed,

[4:52] >> yes.

[4:53] >> Gopal,

[4:53] >> yes.

[4:54] >> Tucker,

[4:54] >> yes.

[4:55] >> Kesler,

[4:56] >> yes.

[4:56] >> Lorraine,

[4:57] >> yes.

[4:58] >> I vote yes. Clark,

[4:59] >> yes.

[5:00] >> Motion passes

[5:01] >> and the expenditure stand approved as

[5:03] presented. As Tom said, we're next

[5:05] business order is public hearings. We

[5:06] have two of them tonight. The first one

[5:08] is Stonybrook 2 street lighting special

[5:10] assessment district and this is the

[5:11] hearing on special assessment role.

[5:13] Operations manager Brooke will you?

[5:15] >> Yes. As requested by a petition of

[5:17] property owners in phase two of Stony

[5:18] Brook uh the township board adopted

[5:21] resolution at the August 18th meeting to

[5:23] create the special assessment district

[5:24] to pay for the installation and ongoing

[5:26] maintenance of 11 street lightss in that

[5:28] section of the development. The second

[5:30] resolution was adopted at that meeting

[5:32] and scheduled the public hearing for

[5:33] tonight's meeting to receive comment on

[5:34] the proposed role. Estimated cost of the

[5:37] project is $2530

[5:39] for street light installation, $1,540

[5:42] per year for operation and maintenance

[5:44] of the lights plus administrative costs.

[5:46] Special assessment role includes a per

[5:48] partial assessment of $16.19

[5:50] for 2026, which includes the cost of the

[5:54] cost of installation recovery township

[5:56] administrative costs and estimated

[5:58] $24.84 per year beginning in 2027.

[6:02] reviews and adjusts all street special

[6:05] assessments annually as needed.

[6:08] >> All right. Thanks, Tom. Okay. The board

[6:10] will now accept public comment on the

[6:12] following. An individual's assessment in

[6:14] relation to the benefit received, the

[6:16] total cost of the project, and the

[6:18] validity of the proceedings to date.

[6:20] Tom, do we have any written comments?

[6:22] >> None.

[6:22] >> All right. I will now open up the

[6:23] meeting for public comment on the

[6:25] proposed PUB zoning amendment. Oh, yeah.

[6:28] All right. Is there anyone here tonight

[6:30] that would like to talk about the street

[6:33] um special assessment for the street

[6:34] lighting for Stony Brook?

[6:38] Hearing none, I'll go to Zoom. Is there

[6:40] anyone on Zoom that would like to

[6:42] address the board again only on the

[6:43] Stony Brook 2 street lighting special

[6:45] assessment?

[6:49] If so, mute or raise your hand or unmute

[6:52] and raise your hand.

[6:55] All right, hearing done. I will now

[6:56] close the public hearing. Are there any

[6:58] questions or comments from the board?

[7:00] >> Only question I have, they took I'm

[7:02] assuming I'm a light pollution

[7:06] guy. I don't want to I don't believe I

[7:09] don't like street lights much, but I

[7:11] believe these fixtures are capped at the

[7:14] top. Is that

[7:15] >> They are correct. They they're they're

[7:18] kind of foursided

[7:20] downward pointing

[7:22] >> because it didn't it talked about the

[7:23] source of illumination and the number

[7:24] and the location,

[7:26] >> but it didn't So I'm just verifying what

[7:29] I believe to be true is that these are

[7:31] sensitive to that particular issue that

[7:34] the light is constrained in a downward

[7:37] fashion.

[7:38] >> Yes, they are. We have the same type in

[7:40] our neighborhood have for 30 some years.

[7:42] But it it just to me it gives off enough light where it's it's safe, but

[7:48] it's it's not something that's blinding

[7:49] that you have to close your your drapes

[7:52] because it's going to keep you awake at

[7:53] night.

[7:53] >> Can you see the star?

[7:55] >> Yes. They're good.

[7:56] >> Wow. Yeah, they're supposed to be highly

[7:58] efficient, which they are, and

[8:00] environmental friendly. So, both the

[8:02] eyes and all the rest. So, all right.

[8:05] Any other comments or questions from the

[8:08] board? Hearing none. Resolution number

[8:10] 2026-23. Clerk Crew, will you please

[8:12] present the resolution?

[8:13] >> Yes. It confirms special assessment role

[8:16] 2026-04

[8:19] as submitted as the assessment role for

[8:22] Stonybrook 2 street lighting special

[8:25] assessment district establishes

[8:29] annual installments in the role each

[8:31] payable on December 1st and due

[8:36] at the end of February assigns or assess

[8:40] or assigns a 1% per month penalty. leave

[8:44] for late payments. Directs the clerk to

[8:46] deliver the special assessment role with

[8:50] warrant attached to the treasurer.

[8:52] Directs the treasurer to collect the

[8:55] special assessment. Repeals any

[8:58] conflicting resolutions. I'll move the

[9:01] resolution.

[9:02] >> Second.

[9:03] >> All right. Motion's been moved and

[9:04] seconded. Any further discussion?

[9:06] Hearing none, clerk, will you please

[9:08] call the role?

[9:08] >> Yes. Clark,

[9:09] >> yes.

[9:10] >> Kesler,

[9:11] >> yes. I vote yes. Gwolf,

[9:14] >> yes.

[9:15] >> Tucker,

[9:16] >> yes.

[9:17] >> Rain,

[9:17] >> yes.

[9:18] >> Reed,

[9:19] >> yes.

[9:20] >> Resolution passes.

[9:22] >> All right. Uh, this is the second one.

[9:25] Uh, this is under public hearings. This

[9:27] is the Fenton Township Fire Protection

[9:29] Special Assessment District. This is the

[9:31] 2026 special assessment role. This is a

[9:33] public hearing on the 2026 Fenton

[9:35] Township Fire Protection Special

[9:36] Assessment Role. The assessment per

[9:38] property remains at 65. We did uh I did

[9:41] have the chief come tonight to just kind

[9:43] of discuss it briefly. Um you want to

[9:45] give just a little history.

[9:51] » I think it's been 30 years.

[9:53] >> This is the 30th year.

[9:54] >> 30th year at $65.

[9:57] Um for fire public safety for a

[10:01] community, it's pretty cheap service. Um

[10:05] our department's NFPA compliant. I mean,

[10:08] all of our equipment is brand new. Um,

[10:10] we're very very careful how we spend our

[10:12] money. Um, just I think it just shows

[10:15] that you don't have to have a ton of

[10:16] money in a in a kitty to say, "Well, I

[10:19] want to buy this or I can have this or

[10:20] whatever." I think we're very um

[10:22] fortunate to have uh the fire fund to

[10:25] begin with and we take advantage of it

[10:28] um by spending it wisely.

[10:32] >> Thanks, Chief. Appreciate it. And it

[10:34] also speaks to

[10:36] uh the chief that manages the

[10:38] department, too. So you've always made

[10:40] sure that in the budget with town that

[10:41] there's money there for future for

[10:44] trucks we're going to need. Uh so again

[10:47] always looking for out for the township.

[10:49] So

[10:49] >> and our new tanker will be here in a

[10:51] couple weeks. So

[10:55] be the last of the trucks for a minute.

[10:58] >> All right. Thanks, Chief. Yep.

[11:00] >> All right.

[11:00] >> I have a question before we go here. Not

[11:03] from you, Chief. Just procedurally.

[11:06] The agenda didn't have this item on it.

[11:10] I unless I'm missing something here. Do

[11:12] we need to amend the agenda to add it in

[11:15] postumously?

[11:17] >> It was in mine.

[11:18] >> It's under public hearing.

[11:25] » Okay. I stand correct.

[11:27] >> Okay.

[11:28] >> Got it.

[11:29] >> Not a problem. All right. I'll now open

[11:30] up the meeting for public comment on the

[11:32] Fenton Township Fire Protection Special

[11:34] Assessment District. This is again the

[11:36] 2020 2026 special assessment role. Is

[11:39] there anyone here attending that would

[11:40] like to address the board?

[11:45] Hearing none, I'll move on to Zoom. Is

[11:47] there anyone address uh attending via

[11:50] Zoom that would like to address the

[11:51] board? Again, just on the Fenton

[11:52] Township Fire Protection Special

[11:54] Assessment.

[12:00] Okay. Hearing none, I will now close the

[12:02] public hearing. Are there any questions

[12:04] or comments from the board?

[12:07] >> I think it's commendable that this is

[12:09] year 30 and we've stayed at the same

[12:11] amount and offer amazing protection for

[12:15] our residents.

[12:16] >> We sure do.

[12:17] >> Commendable

[12:18] >> well-managed department. We are also,

[12:20] you know, and chief and I go to the 911

[12:22] meetings. Our uh trusty goal goes there.

[12:26] We, you know, I look at other

[12:27] municipalities. They're having problems.

[12:29] No one financially, but we we we do

[12:31] things the right way. It's well managed.

[12:33] Uh we have the equipment that we need to

[12:35] protect our citizens and our residents

[12:37] and uh I'm very proud to stand next to

[12:39] them when when I'm there. So doing a

[12:41] great job.

[12:43] [snorts]

[12:44] Any other questions or comments? Okay.

[12:46] Resolution number 2026-24. Clerk Crew,

[12:49] will you please present the resolution?

[12:50] >> Yes. Confirmed specialist says roll

[12:53] number 2026-05

[12:57] as the 2026 Fenton Township fire

[13:01] protection spec

[13:04] establish a payable date of December 1st

[13:07] 2026

[13:09] and it's due date of March 1st 2027

[13:14] assessing a 1% per month penalty on late

[13:18] installments directs the clerk to

[13:20] deliver the special assessment role with

[13:23] warrant attached to the treasur directs

[13:26] the treasur to collect special

[13:28] assessment repeals any conflicting

[13:31] resolutions I'll move the resolution

[13:35] >> second

[13:35] >> all right motion's been moved and

[13:36] seconded any further discussion clerk

[13:38] crew will you please call the role

[13:40] >> yes

[13:41] >> Tucker

[13:42] >> yes

[13:44] >> Clark

[13:44] >> yes

[13:45] >> I vote yes

[13:47] >> yes

[13:48] >> Kesler

[13:49] >> yes

[13:50] >> resol Resolution passes.

[13:51] >> All right. Uh, moving on to the next

[13:53] business orders reports. Are there any

[13:54] committee reports to be made to the

[13:55] board this evening?

[13:58] Hearing none, we'll move on to

[13:59] communications. We have none this

[14:00] evening. Adoption of ordinances. We have

[14:02] none this evening. Unfinished business.

[14:04] None this evening. We will move on to

[14:06] new business. This is the proposed new

[14:09] hire for the fire department. We have

[14:10] our chief here tonight to introduce our

[14:13] new member.

[14:15] >> Get my laps in. Again, I'm pleased to

[14:18] announce that we have another applicant

[14:20] um trained fire one and two um has his

[14:25] uh he went through the uh academy at

[14:27] GISD. Um I think we're in our third year

[14:30] now of having the academy there. So um

[14:34] our our kids in school can uh in between

[14:37] 11th and 12th grade grade become fire

[14:40] one and two certified. Um it's this is

[14:44] our first student we've received from

[14:46] it. He actually lives across from fire

[14:47] station 2. Um his name is Houston

[14:52] Whitner. Um he's a resident and uh he

[14:55] will be a good fit down station too. He

[14:57] made his first training last night and

[14:58] he got to ride on the ladder truck. So I

[15:01] think we hooked him.

[15:02] >> Thanks, Chief. Any questions or comments

[15:05] from the board?

[15:08] >> He is present this evening. I

[15:09] >> he is. I'd like to swear him in if we

[15:10] could right now. M

[15:11] >> I got to we got to we got after after we

[15:14] vote. Okay, I'll entertain a motion

[15:17] regarding the hiring of Houston Whitner

[15:20] >> Whitner.

[15:20] Sorry about that.

[15:22] >> Okay.

[15:22] >> As a member of the Fenton Township Fire

[15:24] Department as recommended by Fire Chief

[15:26] Folultz.

[15:27] >> Second.

[15:28] >> All right. Motion's been moved and

[15:29] seconded. Any further discussion?

[15:32] >> Clerk Crew, will you please call the

[15:33] role?

[15:33] >> Kesler,

[15:34] >> yes.

[15:35] >> I vote yes. Reed,

[15:36] >> yes.

[15:37] >> Lorraine,

[15:38] >> yes.

[15:38] >> Clark,

[15:39] >> yes.

[15:39] >> Tucker,

[15:40] >> yes.

[15:41] >> Gopal,

[15:42] >> yes.

[15:43] >> Motion passes. And now you can swear in

[15:45] Mr. Whitner.

[15:48] >> Tomute

[16:08] the duties of firefighters.

[16:21] respected dedication and hold.

[16:43] Congratulations, [applause]

[16:48] Mr. Whitner. Welcome to the Fenton

[16:50] Township Fire Department, the best

[16:52] township in the state of Michigan.

[16:56] >> All right, moving on to the next

[16:57] business. Next under new business,

[16:59] resolution number 2026-25. This is the

[17:01] street. Oh, no, it's not.

[17:04] >> Stony.

[17:06] >> All right.

[17:07] Uh resolution number 2026-25 street

[17:10] lighting for Stonybrook phase 2. Tom,

[17:13] will you

[17:14] >> Yes. So with the confirmation of the

[17:16] special assessment role, now we need to

[17:18] update our contract with consumers to

[17:19] add those lights under the township's

[17:21] contract. So, what you have here is an

[17:23] authorization for change form um which

[17:26] includes the amount that that we would

[17:28] pay to have the lights installed which

[17:30] is added into the assessment and a

[17:32] resolution authorizing the clerk or

[17:34] treasurer to approve that authorization

[17:36] for change.

[17:38] >> All right. Thanks, Tom. Any questions or

[17:41] comments from the board?

[17:43] All right. Hearing none, resolution

[17:44] number 2026-25.

[17:46] Cler, will you please present the

[17:47] resolution?

[17:51] deems it advisable to authorize

[17:53] Consumers Energy to make a change in the

[17:56] street lighting contract to add lights

[17:59] for Stonybrook to special assessment

[18:02] district. Authorizes the supervisor or

[18:06] clerk to execute the required

[18:08] authorization for change

[18:11] uh change documents. I'll move the

[18:15] resolution.

[18:16] >> Second.

[18:16] >> All right. Motion's been moved and

[18:18] second. Any further discussion hearing?

[18:20] None. Clerk K, you please call the role.

[18:22] >> Tucker,

[18:23] >> yes.

[18:24] >> Lraine,

[18:25] >> yes.

[18:26] >> Gopal,

[18:26] >> yes.

[18:27] >> Kesler,

[18:28] >> yes.

[18:29] >> Reed,

[18:30] >> yes.

[18:31] >> Clark,

[18:32] >> yes. [clears throat]

[18:33] >> I vote, yes. Resolution passes.

[18:36] >> All right. Next to business, proposed

[18:38] software platform upgrade. This is uh

[18:40] first part of two. This is BSNA cloud.

[18:43] Um just to give a little narrative. Um,

[18:47] [clears throat]

[18:49] as you know, the board over the last six

[18:51] years has made a lot of changes here at

[18:53] the township. Made us very efficient.

[18:55] Everything from upgrading our file

[18:56] server to our social media. Um and over

[19:02] the last well it's probably been a lot

[19:04] more than a couple of years but we have

[19:06] a lot some inefficiencies

[19:08] uh with the software that we have and

[19:10] it's caused a conflict between our I

[19:12] think a little bit of a conflict between

[19:13] our IT and our BSNA software provider uh

[19:18] because if something went wrong they

[19:20] would blame it on IT would blame it on

[19:22] BSNA. Long story short, uh it was one of

[19:26] the first things I gave a full assign to

[19:28] Megan, uh our assistant manager. She did

[19:31] an amazing job. Um she met with

[19:34] everybody, department heads, went over

[19:36] everything, and I'm going to let her

[19:37] take it from here.

[19:39] >> Okay.

[19:39] >> Thank you, Megan.

[19:40] >> Thank you. Um so we currently operate on

[19:44] bsna.net,

[19:45] um which will only be supported until

[19:48] about 55 to 60% of their current users

[19:52] are live on cloud. Um so currently that

[19:55] amount that are on that are in the

[19:58] process of implementation are about 42%.

[20:01] Um in Jennese County 17 municipalities

[20:03] have signed on to cloud 11 are currently

[20:05] live and six are awaiting

[20:07] implementation. Um those include the

[20:09] cities of Fenton and Lynden. Lyndon's

[20:11] been live for about a year. I have

[20:13] spoken to their clerk. She said there

[20:15] their um transition was completely se

[20:17] seamless. Everything went well. Um and

[20:20] the city of Fenton's been on since July.

[20:24] Um so once that supports discontinued,

[20:26] migration to the cloud is going to be

[20:29] inevitable. Um and BSNA is predicting

[20:31] that that'll be mid to late 2027.

[20:34] Um and the price increase for the cloud

[20:37] has increased about 10% a year since

[20:39] they've introduced the cloud

[20:40] programming. Um so if we sign an

[20:44] agreement now we can lock in the 2026

[20:46] pricing while implementating it in um

[20:50] 2027 which prices increase January 1. Um

[20:54] that also give us more control in our

[20:56] time frame on when we can make the

[20:57] migration occur. Um because as of right

[21:00] now it's a seven to nine month process

[21:03] um if we migrate as of right now. But if

[21:06] we wait and when the um

[21:11] when it it's not supported any longer

[21:13] it's more like 12 to 18 months. Um so I

[21:18] did speak to each department head. had

[21:20] them actually attend the meeting with

[21:22] BSNA to make sure all their needs were

[21:24] addressed. Um, and the staff agrees

[21:27] unanimously that this upgrade would be

[21:30] beneficial to audit office productivity

[21:32] um, and services to the residents, too.

[21:35] So, Julia Wilson, who isn't obviously

[21:37] here tonight, um, she actually attended

[21:39] a BSNA uh, road show about cloud um, and

[21:43] she said that would solve a lot of her

[21:44] problems when it comes to assessing

[21:47] because as of right now, both building

[21:50] assessing have separate drives that they

[21:53] have to store all of their documents in.

[21:56] Um there's a lot of historical data for

[21:58] both of those departments and and they

[22:00] have to accept they can't put it in the

[22:04] net platform or everything it just can't

[22:06] hold it. Um so this would reduce our our

[22:10] calls to it for crashing programs um and

[22:14] you know error messages with routine

[22:15] tasks like making letters um

[22:20] you know uh for example the building

[22:23] department sends expired permit letters.

[22:26] It should be weekly task but this has

[22:28] been an issue ongoing that they can't

[22:30] get these letters to generate. So we

[22:32] have open permits that have continuously

[22:34] just been an issue. um that we could you

[22:37] know get these expired permits resolved

[22:40] um if we moved on to cloud that would be

[22:44] resolved as well. So there wouldn't be

[22:46] the storage issues. Um you know right

[22:50] now if we have on premises hardware that

[22:52] fails we would have to spend a

[22:54] considerable amount of money to upgrade

[22:56] servers and things like that to hold all

[22:58] the data. Um with cloud it's all housed

[23:01] in Microsoft data centers and these

[23:03] tasks are automatically managed. server

[23:06] maintenance uh wouldn't be an issue

[23:07] anymore. Uh there's no need for manual

[23:09] backups. The data is backed up every 15

[23:11] minutes um to a facility in Virginia and

[23:14] then there's a redundant facility in

[23:16] Arizona in case there's any failure. So

[23:18] double backups, our data is safe. Um and

[23:22] currently backups are done about every

[23:24] 15 days. So days to minutes difference

[23:27] there. Um and then there's many features

[23:30] that can streamline work for each

[23:31] department. There's the abilities to set

[23:33] up recurring workflows. um routine tasks

[23:35] can become automated. You customize

[23:37] dashboards for each user. So, whoever is

[23:40] using that software, whether it's

[23:41] somebody in the building department, the

[23:43] front desk, you know, how it's payable,

[23:45] how they use the software, they can

[23:47] customize dashboard and get in and have

[23:50] everything set up the way they use it.

[23:53] Um, and then reports can also be

[23:54] scheduled to generate on a recurrence.

[23:57] So um right now you can't do work in

[24:00] BSNA while it's recording a gen

[24:02] generating a report excuse me um cloud

[24:06] you can schedule these reports to be

[24:08] generated you can schedule them to be

[24:10] emailed and continue to work in the

[24:12] programs as as it goes um and then like

[24:16] I said the updates happen automatically.

[24:18] So right now you have to update each

[24:21] module individually. Go in, log out, go

[24:26] back in. Now it just it happens if we we

[24:30] move to cloud. Um and so then there's

[24:33] also

[24:34] AI features that are included in this in

[24:37] this proposal as well. There's an AI

[24:38] assistant um that offers 247 instant

[24:41] answers, but it's only trained on BSNA

[24:44] help documents. So,

[24:47] um, it would offer support transition to

[24:49] text, so they would have a case already

[24:50] built by the time the texts get a hold

[24:52] of it if we have any issues, um, with

[24:54] BSNA. It's a new feature, but they're

[24:57] always improving it with questions and training on that. And there's also

[25:00] AI invoicing, so it would scan invoices

[25:03] um, for faster addition of vendor info, due dates, invoice numbers, and

[25:09] then line item values would be added to

[25:12] general ledger, accounts payable,

[25:14] accounts receivable, etc. Um, so that

[25:17] would make the invoicing process a

[25:19] little bit faster as well. So, it's more

[25:21] accessible to both township staff and

[25:23] residents. Um, everything communicates

[25:26] in cloud. There's a person record

[25:29] instead of having to go into each module

[25:31] individually and search for somebody's

[25:33] tax record, somebody's UB record, what

[25:36] have you. Um, you can search by a person

[25:39] and it pulls up all of that person's

[25:41] info. So, the other day when I looked at

[25:43] my father-in-law's

[25:45] tax bills, I would have seen all of his

[25:48] parcels in one go rather than having to

[25:50] click into each individual parcel every

[25:52] time and add it all up to tell them what

[25:54] he owed for taxes. Um, so when when

[25:59] residents want information from multiple

[26:01] tax years now, you have to change the

[26:03] database, go in and then print, and it

[26:06] takes it takes a while to to do those

[26:08] things. Um, this you could do it all in

[26:11] one go. So there's also a global search

[26:14] option. So all records containing the

[26:17] searched item would pull from all

[26:19] modules. So if you search 1442,

[26:23] general ledger, UB, what have you would

[26:26] all pull anything with that number in

[26:29] there. Um

[26:32] so it would reduce phone calls um and

[26:34] inerson weight times for residents

[26:36] looking for property information. Um, it

[26:38] would also cut down on the time needed

[26:40] to compile foyers because everything

[26:42] would be right at my fingertips. Um, and

[26:45] it may even reduce foyer requests being

[26:47] made to the township depending on what

[26:49] they're after. And so, uh, working

[26:52] remotely in BSNA also wouldn't require

[26:55] uh, remote access cloud cloud spouse

[26:58] browser based. So, you could do it from

[26:59] anywhere as long as you have your login

[27:01] info and a secure connection. And so

[27:04] this agreement also includes a new

[27:06] module. It's called community

[27:08] development which um it manages all the

[27:11] components of building code enforcement,

[27:14] zoning and planning. Um it was chosen

[27:17] because it allows for online building

[27:20] permits, zoning permits, trade permits

[27:22] um for residents and contractors. Right

[27:24] now those are fillable PDF files. Um and

[27:27] applying for permits online would be a

[27:29] straightforward and easy process. Um,

[27:32] and as I mentioned before, 11

[27:34] communities in Jennese County are

[27:35] already live with this. So many

[27:37] contractors are already used to that.

[27:41] Um, and it would create continuity

[27:43] between departments. So, inspector

[27:44] reports would be easily available to

[27:46] chief and um, our account manager

[27:50] confirmed that this implementation would

[27:51] occur along with um, the cloud upgrade

[27:55] at the same time or shortly thereafter,

[27:58] but right around the same time. So, the

[27:59] annual fee is a set cost of $54,350.

[28:04] Um, and there's a onetime fee associated

[28:06] with implementation and training. Um,

[28:08] for a grand, so that would be a grand

[28:10] total of $113,595,

[28:14] but it wouldn't all be due once it it's

[28:15] broken out. Um, this our current cost of

[28:18] bsna.net with with online services,

[28:21] which is how the residents um access

[28:24] everything, is about $26,500

[28:27] annually. and the annual fee wouldn't be

[28:29] triggered until the go live date um and

[28:34] net payments that have been made um

[28:36] would be prorated into that annual fee.

[28:38] So training on software would be handled

[28:40] remotely for about a week and staff

[28:43] would have access to um those trainers

[28:46] for two weeks after as issues arise,

[28:48] questions, things like that um as they

[28:51] get into the software and use it. So I

[28:53] understand that this is a costly upgrade

[28:55] and I believe securing the current

[28:57] pricing and migrating to cloud prior to

[29:00] net end of life being announced is the

[29:02] best uh interest of the township staff

[29:04] and the residents. Cloud reduces the

[29:07] need for storage upgrades and servers

[29:09] and keeping costs predictable is good as

[29:12] well. Um we've clearly outgrown the net

[29:15] platform and soon it won't be supported

[29:18] anyway. Um, so every department head

[29:21] agrees that this transition is overdue

[29:23] and if efficiency in what we do as a

[29:25] township

[29:26] uh as staff and allows us to serve our

[29:29] residents in the best way possible. So

[29:32] questions.

[29:33] >> I got a question. How long is this

[29:36] technology been available?

[29:39] >> It's been

[29:42] at least within the last five six years

[29:45] if I'm mistaken.

[29:46] >> It's been it's been a

[29:48] >> it's been a few years. It's been within

[29:49] the time my

[29:50] >> Are you talking about the cloud or BSNA?

[29:52] >> The BSNA.

[29:53] >> Oh, BS BSA.

[29:54] >> BNA been around forever.

[29:56] >> So the cloud is something new that

[29:58] >> correct.

[29:58] >> It's like Microsoft that used to sit on

[30:00] reside on your PC. Now it's it's all in

[30:03] the air. It's Microsoft 365. Everybody's

[30:05] moving to it. It becomes uh you know

[30:08] >> we actually heard a lot of horror

[30:10] stories from communities that jumped on

[30:11] the cloud platform early because they

[30:14] hadn't worked all the bugs out yet. So I

[30:16] think it scared a lot of people off. Now

[30:18] we're hearing no it's really good. Uh

[30:20] it's it's more efficient and PSNA's got

[30:24] their act together as far as transition.

[30:26] >> I mean with our community growing and um

[30:29] there's going to be more records coming

[30:30] in I mean is this unlimited cloud usage

[30:32] or we're captive certain

[30:34] >> it's unlimited cloud.

[30:36] >> Yeah.

[30:36] >> Okay.

[30:38] One other question.

[30:39] >> When people have access to let's say

[30:41] their tax records, bills, things like

[30:43] that,

[30:43] >> are they going to be charged? Because I

[30:45] know like city of Flint, you want to get

[30:47] some records, they charge them.

[30:50] >> If it's your record, no, you're not

[30:53] charged for that. No.

[30:55] >> But we are looking at things that for

[30:57] certain things, whether it's something

[30:59] that we would Mike's going to be, I

[31:00] think, reviewing the fee schedule that

[31:02] will be coming to the board later. But

[31:04] again, it's more of But anyway, is there

[31:06] any other questions or comments from the

[31:08] board?

[31:09] >> Well, I'm just looking at So, with the

[31:12] BSA.net, I understand that we're kind of

[31:14] limited because we're not going to be

[31:15] able to but it's more than 100% increase

[31:18] to go to cloud.

[31:20] >> Yeah. However, we're I mean, we

[31:23] assessing can barely work in in what

[31:26] they're doing. Julia's having memory

[31:28] issues all the time with her computer.

[31:29] She can't access her files regularly.

[31:31] It's

[31:32] >> it's I'm sure it's

[31:34] >> Yeah, I understand it's

[31:36] >> it's an increase, but that's that's part

[31:38] of why we're revisiting the fee schedule

[31:40] as well.

[31:45] » Do they offer more than a year contract?

[31:50] >> No.

[31:52] >> Do they raise the price though? I know

[31:53] he's going But I thought we were going

[31:54] to have like the fees.

[31:56] >> Yeah, we're Yes. I'm sorry.

[31:58] >> Fees locked in. We're locked.

[32:03] one year.

[32:04] >> Oh, it's just one year.

[32:05] >> Okay. Well, that's that's what I'm

[32:07] asking.

[32:07] >> Yeah. I don't

[32:08] >> Yeah, they're they're not they're

[32:09] increasing

[32:11] >> um the 10% for users that go on after that, but um

[32:16] >> the history's been 10%.

[32:18] for as they

[32:20] >> as they implement

[32:22] probably 10% increase. Well, no, it'll

[32:25] be the January after that if they do it

[32:27] in the January, right?

[32:29] No, we were

[32:30] >> No, I was told we were locked in with the 2026 pricing

[32:33] >> until when

[32:36] our first full year

[32:37] >> for full school year. Yeah.

[32:39] >> So then we would hit the 10% whatever

[32:41] their number is. Assume 10% the

[32:43] following January

[32:45] >> probably middle of the year.

[32:46] >> It would be middle of the year. Yeah.

[32:48] >> So January 28th is what I'm what I'm

[32:50] thinking.

[32:50] >> Yeah. Yeah. Probably.

[32:51] >> Yeah. And I I hope it doesn't keep

[32:54] increasing 10% year. technology advances

[32:56] doesn't normally go down.

[32:58] >> Yes. Normal,

[33:00] >> but you all know I hate

[33:03] >> I understand I'm kind of referring to

[33:05] your expertise also because you do the

[33:07] same with your office. So

[33:09] >> and I hate it and it's it is the reality

[33:11] of life. I've come to you know

[33:15] sort of accept it.

[33:18] But what I'll say with respect to this

[33:20] is if you have a product that is not

[33:23] performing for you even though it's

[33:25] cheaper

[33:27] I don't think it's really cheaper if

[33:30] it's not meaning services you know if

[33:32] it's causing inefficiencies here

[33:36] you know I can see the argument for it

[33:41] I've seen the sales pitch 100 times it's

[33:42] always the same predictability they all

[33:45] like it because they all make more at it

[33:47] this way. But, you know, hearing what

[33:51] I'm hearing about the difficulties with

[33:53] the current thing, knowing that we're

[33:55] going to have to switch probably next

[33:57] year anyway, I think there's some logic

[33:59] to at least save on the 10% this time

[34:02] around. You know, to Mark's point, yeah,

[34:04] it's it's a big it's 100% increase in

[34:08] software cost, but it's a lot more

[34:11] service than what you're getting. So,

[34:12] it's not really an apple to apple.

[34:14] >> Understand? But also at 10% a year from

[34:17] 54 but I mean

[34:19] >> is there going to be a point of

[34:22] >> I don't want to say diminishing return

[34:24] but where is it's kind of I mean that's

[34:29] you know it's logarithmic you understand

[34:31] that and is there going to be a point

[34:34] where we have a you get to a certain

[34:36] point where we're just going to revisit

[34:38] other

[34:40] companies that kind of perform the same

[34:42] service? There is competition but it's

[34:45] not really

[34:46] >> okay.

[34:46] >> Everybody uses BSA and that puts you in

[34:49] a position where you are capable of

[34:52] being

[34:52] >> hi sir

[34:53] >> held hostage by by that.

[34:56] >> So you know what typically you try to do

[35:00] to protect yourself from that is have a

[35:02] right to your data being given back to

[35:05] you. So then you can then look and see

[35:08] what other alternatives there are. Um,

[35:13] I've never seen it actually happen.

[35:15] >> U, but you know, the risk is real. The

[35:18] possibility it could happen is real.

[35:20] >> So Mark,

[35:21] >> just to give you some like before we

[35:24] decided to go to the cloud, right, we

[35:25] were looking at options for just

[35:27] community development, right? To get

[35:29] online submittals, interviewed seven

[35:32] different companies. Okay. their so

[35:34] their yearly fees for just community

[35:36] development was between 12

[35:38] between$10,000 to $15,000 a year just

[35:41] for community development. The uh

[35:43] startup costs were between 45 and 65,000

[35:46] just for community development. So

[35:51] BSNA is

[35:53] probably 90% of the communities in

[35:55] Michigan. Um which creates an issue with

[35:58] trying to get someone else in, right?

[35:59] Because there's no entry market for

[36:01] these new companies. you know, they they

[36:03] want to get in, right? And they're

[36:04] offering you the best opportunities they

[36:05] have, but those opportunities are are

[36:08] nowhere in comparison to the rates with

[36:10] BSNA. Um

[36:13] so we've looked right to see what other

[36:16] options are out there and it's

[36:20] as much as it is for BSNA um there is

[36:24] some economies of scale with just their

[36:26] knowledge and expertise in Michigan and

[36:28] trying to find someone that is even half

[36:30] of what BSNA can offer just isn't

[36:33] economically viable.

[36:35] >> Okay.

[36:36] >> And my forte obviously is not public

[36:39] safety. So I'm going to refer to the

[36:42] experts here. I know everybody on this

[36:44] board has community's best interest at

[36:46] heart and every dollar is accounted for

[36:48] and I know we all that way. So I will

[36:51] just

[36:57] » give you a little think in the best

[36:59] interest of the township

[37:01] >> like John John and I agree. This is one

[37:03] thing we can solidly agree on. I'm

[37:04] against what where the industry is going

[37:06] but it's it's that way just like when I

[37:08] first got into publishing magazines.

[37:10] >> Yeah. 15 magazines you're pumping out.

[37:12] Well, you all the software resided

[37:14] there, but you also had all the problems

[37:16] that went with it.

[37:18] >> And what happened was is there was one

[37:20] it ended up whittling down to one

[37:21] company,

[37:22] >> but it still resided on your computer

[37:25] and then all of a sudden they said they

[37:26] were going to go to cloud.

[37:28] However, the efficiencies and this is

[37:30] what I talked to Megan about because I

[37:32] see them every day. Tom sees them every

[37:34] day. I mean, you come in, this doesn't

[37:35] work, that doesn't work. Well, Julie's

[37:37] coming in. She's upset. This isn't

[37:38] working. She can't get this filed open.

[37:40] When you add all all up, it especially,

[37:44] you know, you take a look at the sellers

[37:46] in here. I think making this township

[37:48] more friendly to our residents and

[37:51] opening up a lot of information to our

[37:54] residents and also being able to make

[37:55] the staff more efficient. So, and to

[37:59] answer one other question just because

[38:00] I've seen it in in the publishing

[38:02] industry which is really big in

[38:03] software. I don't think I think BSNA has

[38:07] become such a monolith that you know we

[38:08] can talk about residing our own data but

[38:11] sooner or later BSNA is going to have

[38:12] data that's going to be written in a way

[38:14] that's going to be it's going to cost us

[38:15] a million dollars to have a conversion

[38:16] to another software and as they grow

[38:19] other software companies it's hard for

[38:21] other software companies to be able to

[38:23] penetrate an industry like they did in

[38:26] publishing. So, you know, I would say

[38:28] yes, it's expensive.

[38:29] >> Well, I also don't want a monopoly to

[38:31] dictate what, you know,

[38:33] >> but but we don't have any control over

[38:34] that. I mean, I can guarantee in three

[38:37] years, we'll be looking if if we are,

[38:39] but you know, I just just so the board

[38:41] and the residents know, I I it's

[38:43] probably not going to change.

[38:45] >> Thank you.

[38:46] >> Y just to be honest with everybody. Any

[38:48] other questions or comments?

[38:50] >> Have you looked at the resident side of

[38:53] the software?

[38:55] I haven't gotten to like physically get

[38:58] into it, but it's

[39:00] >> wonder going to change. Is it

[39:02] >> It's pretty It's pretty similar, but

[39:04] it's there's more available to them. Um

[39:08] especially with the the addition of the

[39:10] community development, everything will

[39:13] show for them there.

[39:14] >> And are they going to implement that

[39:17] access on our website

[39:20] >> as part of what they're doing here?

[39:21] >> Yes.

[39:25] Christine, anything? Rob, Bill, anything

[39:28] else? All right, Megan, you did a great

[39:31] job. Um, might as well stay up there.

[39:33] >> Yep.

[39:33] >> If there's no other questions, okay,

[39:35] I'll entertain a motion regarding the

[39:36] BSNA software and service cloud upgrade

[39:39] proposal and authorization for the

[39:40] supervisor to execute an agreement on

[39:42] behalf of the township as presented.

[39:45] >> Second.

[39:47] >> Did somebody move that?

[39:49] >> Apparently, you did.

[39:51] >> I did.

[39:51] >> I'll move it.

[39:52] >> All right. There you go. I need somebody

[39:53] to move that. You second. All right.

[39:55] Motion's been moved and seconded. Any

[39:56] further discussion? Hearing none. Clerk

[39:58] crew, will you please call the role?

[40:00] >> Lorraine,

[40:01] >> yes.

[40:01] >> Clark,

[40:02] >> absolutely.

[40:05] >> Kesler,

[40:06] >> yes.

[40:07] >> Gopal,

[40:07] >> yes.

[40:09] >> Tucker,

[40:09] >> yes.

[40:10] >> I vote yes. Reed,

[40:13] >> yes.

[40:14] >> Motion passes.

[40:16] >> All right. Next. This is the uh contract

[40:19] award for IT services. Megan.

[40:22] >> So, um, IT services and maintenance for

[40:25] the township's computer network are

[40:26] currently provided by Centas. Um,

[40:28] currently those services are provided

[40:30] through a mixture of three older

[40:31] agreements that resulted in some

[40:33] unpredictability and costs from year to

[40:35] year. Um, Centas recently advised that

[40:37] the older agreement will be discontinued

[40:40] um, and submitted a new comprehensive

[40:42] proposal to bring all upgrades and

[40:44] services to their current standards. Um

[40:47] so we use this as an opportunity to

[40:49] explore other IT options um for IT

[40:52] services and determine the best fit for

[40:54] the township um as security and service

[40:57] needs of the township have changed

[40:59] significantly in recent years and will

[41:01] continue to change as we move forward

[41:03] into the future. Um so the township

[41:05] solicited six proposals from IT firms um

[41:08] after their initial review. Two were

[41:10] removed from consideration. Um, one

[41:12] company was small and their proposal

[41:14] didn't fully address our needs. Um, the

[41:17] other doesn't currently have a presence

[41:19] in Michigan. They're based out of Ohio.

[41:21] So, we removed them from consideration.

[41:24] Uh, the four remaining IT firms were

[41:26] Centas, Dupoint Systems, and BC3. Um,

[41:29] which they provided proposals that do

[41:31] meet the needs of the township. Um, and

[41:33] copies of those are in your packets as

[41:36] well as a comparison of the four

[41:38] proposals. Um all of which included u

[41:41] network management and monitoring for

[41:43] the servers and the workstations backup

[41:45] management and monitoring um viral

[41:47] management and monitoring Microsoft 365

[41:50] management cyber security management and

[41:52] monitoring email security which included

[41:54] anti-PAM anti virus anti-malware

[41:56] management monitoring and managed

[41:58] endpoint detected detection and

[42:00] response. Um, so based on this

[42:02] comparison, um, while the VC3 proposal

[42:06] was not the lowest cost, their plan does

[42:08] offer the most to us. Um, they're a

[42:12] national company with a local presence

[42:13] in Bath, um, which is also where the SNA

[42:16] is located. Um, they provide two always

[42:20] on teams. There's the network operations

[42:22] center, which monitors all of our

[42:24] networks and infrastructure 247. Um they

[42:27] have a security operations center which

[42:29] their security analysts are actively

[42:31] looking for breaches and responding to

[42:33] alerts 247. Um they also offer twofold

[42:37] limited unlimited support rather. Um so

[42:40] and they pride themselves that most of

[42:42] their issues are resolved in their first

[42:44] interaction with the client. Um so they

[42:46] will offer remote support which is 247

[42:49] 365 and their average call response time

[42:52] they say is two minutes. Um, unlimited

[42:55] on-site is also included in that so they

[42:58] can have a tech on site available to us

[43:00] within a couple of hours. Um, which is

[43:03] huge to our staff. Um, that'll minimize

[43:06] downtime, keep critical resident

[43:08] services operational. Um, you know, for

[43:10] example, we had a recent email issue

[43:12] that took our current provider two texts

[43:15] and nearly two days to resolve for a

[43:17] staff member who was unable to send or

[43:19] receive emails and she had multiple

[43:22] email boxes missing from from her email.

[43:24] So that's problem

[43:26] >> that was with Centas.

[43:27] >> That was Centas. Yes. Um, so our current

[43:30] model, you know, results in staff time

[43:31] being diverted to resolve technical

[43:33] issues sometimes. um and our staff is

[43:36] not have expertise in in the technical

[43:39] side of things. So they offer

[43:42] state-of-the-art um security protocols

[43:44] and a multi-layer backup and disaster

[43:46] recovery strategy for the township. It's all security integrated. Um so

[43:51] they'll actually implement um

[43:53] multiffactor authentification and

[43:55] configuration crowd strike um endpoint

[43:58] detection and response and security

[44:00] awareness training which will you know

[44:03] test staff on fishing and scam um

[44:07] issues within emails and things like

[44:10] that. They also offer dark web

[44:11] monitoring uh which will alert us if

[44:14] sensitive information is found for sale

[44:16] on the dark web. Uh they also offer

[44:18] email protection which filters out

[44:19] harmful emails before they even get to

[44:21] the inboxes. Um domain name system and

[44:25] web protection. It blocks it'll help

[44:27] block access to nefarious websites and

[44:30] prevent accidentally downloading malware

[44:33] and prevent scam exposure. Um and then

[44:36] they will back up township data to US

[44:39] federal information processing standard

[44:41] compliant off-site locations. um those

[44:44] would be nightly backups in a secure

[44:46] site in Atlanta and is replicated in a

[44:48] secondary site um in Las Vegas about a

[44:51] week later. So the immutable backups,

[44:54] they can't be overwritten and they can

[44:56] go back through the duration of our our

[44:58] partnership with them. Um so if we stick

[45:00] with BC3 for 10 years, we have 10 years

[45:03] of our backups available to us. um

[45:08] which would you know they offer backup

[45:09] status monitoring, data restores and

[45:11] disaster recovery planning. Um they

[45:14] Microsoft 365 protection and backups.

[45:17] They continuously monitor backups and

[45:19] prevent data loss which those would back

[45:21] up three times daily every day offsite.

[45:24] Um they do specialize in municipal

[45:26] clients. So there's over 1,200 state,

[45:29] local and county entities that they are

[45:31] the IT firm for. Um and they're endorsed

[45:33] by a variety of municipal leagues

[45:35] including the National League of Cities

[45:37] and their average client relationship is

[45:39] over 11 years. Um they are a BSNA

[45:42] partner and they provide security

[45:44] operations for BSNA. So they they were

[45:46] kind of built up the local office was

[45:49] built up with BSNA um and work together

[45:52] with them. And currently we tend to have

[45:55] some fingerpointing between BSNA and our

[45:57] IT. Um as issues arrive they would work

[46:00] together in this case. Um they'd also

[46:02] coordinate with our other vendors

[46:04] including Microsoft um and support our

[46:06] other third party licenses, Adobe,

[46:08] things like that. Um cost would be

[46:11] consistent, predictable monthtomonth.

[46:13] The monthly cost for this plan is 300

[46:16] 3,510

[46:18] um plus a onetime implementation fee

[46:20] which is a cost of $6,84. the

[46:23] implementation cost to include um 3,900

[46:27] for onboarding for the staff and then um

[46:30] 21.84

[46:32] would be for the to set up the multi

[46:34] multi- factor authentication um and user

[46:37] app setup fees. Um so from signing one

[46:41] to two weeks later we'd have kickoff um

[46:43] and establish a goal live date and then

[46:45] six to eight weeks we'd have onboarding

[46:47] begin with them. Um, I recommend BC3 due

[46:51] to their business partnership with BSNA,

[46:54] their specialty and municipal municipal

[46:56] clients, um, their the unlimited support

[46:59] and the extensive security measures they

[47:01] will offer to the township. Um, which I

[47:03] feel makes them the best fit for Fenton

[47:05] Township today and for the future.

[47:07] >> Thanks, Megan. Great job. Before I um,

[47:09] ask any questions from the board, just

[47:10] wanted to one thing and she's you

[47:12] brought it up twice, so you did a great

[47:14] job. So, but one of the things that

[47:16] impressed me because I went through this

[47:17] process with Megan is the fact that if

[47:20] we're g, you know, with what we're doing

[47:21] with BSNA, I really like the company.

[47:24] Number one, it's giving a company that

[47:26] we've worked with for 30 years, which I

[47:28] told you a lot of the problems, somebody

[47:30] would say, Julie would say, you know, I

[47:32] got a problem and they would call up

[47:33] Centurus and Centur said, well, it's not

[47:35] us, it's them. And they would go back

[47:37] and forth. So, the problem would go

[47:38] unresolved. So, I think what's nice

[47:41] about this is that they're actually,

[47:42] aren't there corporate offices in the

[47:44] same city? So, they grew, like Megan

[47:46] said, right, with BSNA, and I think it's

[47:48] really the only logical choice. Um, you

[47:51] know, I I think the difference we're

[47:52] going to pay uh is worth the fact that

[47:55] now we will be as efficient as we can be

[47:58] because again, they work together, they

[48:00] know the software together, so they

[48:02] understand the hardware, they understand

[48:03] the software, and it will eliminate um

[48:07] as much problems. So anyway, are there

[48:09] any questions or comments from the

[48:11] board?

[48:12] >> Um, how

[48:15] you're saying how long have we had

[48:17] centaris? You said 30 years.

[48:20] >> Well, it it's been different iterations.

[48:23] It was BCL computing solutions, then it

[48:26] was CCR, then it was Cintaras, but

[48:30] the anchor of that is Brian Murray, and

[48:31] he has actually it's like 32 years.

[48:35] So when Okay. He's he's in a different

[48:38] part of the company. I'm not even the

[48:40] person to deal with it.

[48:43] So, we've been with a version of the

[48:45] same company. So, when we were having

[48:47] these issues that were missing files or

[48:51] like saying about can't find certain

[48:54] things, do we know which you know one

[48:57] company's blaming the other? Do we do

[48:59] you have a headache? Um, first I'd like

[49:03] to

[49:05] >> um

[49:07] not sure I I I think a lot of the

[49:10] problems are maybe inherent with trying

[49:14] to run so much information in the net

[49:16] platform.

[49:17] >> Okay.

[49:17] >> So maybe that going to the cloud will

[49:19] eliminate a lot of those issues anyway.

[49:22] >> But just having um someone who's a

[49:26] municipal

[49:27] >> expert and a partner of the SNA I I

[49:31] think just

[49:32] minimizes any of those types of issues

[49:35] where there's fingerpoint.

[49:39] Is this contract

[49:41] locking us in?

[49:42] >> Three years.

[49:43] Okay. And as far as on-site

[49:46] support, have they have we utilized them

[49:49] to come in on site before

[49:52] I see you like Centas is extra cost

[49:55] materials and this DC3 is included cost.

[50:00] How often do we require that company to

[50:02] come in?

[50:03] >> We've had probably half a dozen on-site

[50:06] visits this year,

[50:07] >> okay,

[50:07] >> from our current provider. Um, you know,

[50:11] once everything's set up, ideally most

[50:13] of the support would be able to be done

[50:16] remotely, but if we're staging a new

[50:18] computer or there's some things that

[50:20] will require onsite and with BC3,

[50:24] there's that's just part of the deal,

[50:26] right? I just want to ask with this on

[50:28] site where they had to come in six

[50:30] times. You said six times. Is was that

[50:34] something that needed on site as far as

[50:37] there was issues that they couldn't

[50:39] resolve over the phone?

[50:40] >> Correct. Yeah.

[50:43] Centas will resolve things remotely if

[50:45] they can, but if they can't, then they

[50:47] send somebody out.

[50:51] » Any other questions or

[50:52] >> how much are we currently paying as the

[50:54] terrorist?

[50:56] 35,000 a year.

[50:58] I'm not sure what all is included in

[51:00] that. I asked that question to Megan

[51:02] earlier today. She had a lovely

[51:04] spreadsheet that she sent to me that,

[51:06] you know, itemizes everything out. It

[51:08] was quite detailed. Um, so but that's

[51:12] the last two years been about 35 36

[51:16] and a lot of it is ads and that's one of

[51:18] the frustrations that I have had with it

[51:20] because the temptation you want to look

[51:22] at these and compare the monthly These

[51:25] are apples and okay

[51:28] wants 3,000 for software stuff plus

[51:33] some some fragment of that 35 $36,000.

[51:37] So those two aren't comparable. So you

[51:40] know when I'm looking at this the two

[51:42] that charge extra to be to show up on

[51:44] site I'm throwing those out because

[51:46] they're just they're not not comparing

[51:48] the same thing. You know, my temptation

[51:51] is to want to gambling.

[51:53] I don't know. I probably the guy that

[51:56] caused them to be considered. I was at a

[51:58] golf outing and they were passing out

[52:00] cards and well, we should check them

[52:02] out. Um, but what it boils down to me,

[52:07] there is a cost differential there. But

[52:09] the point, the very last thing that she

[52:11] wrote, you know, that they're BSNA

[52:13] partners.

[52:16] There's value to that, you know,

[52:17] particularly when we're doing a

[52:19] transition [snorts] to the cloud.

[52:22] The fact that they their primary focus

[52:25] is on municipalities,

[52:28] they've heard all the stuff that we do.

[52:31] Now, does that leave us in the same

[52:32] position where we're, you know, we're

[52:35] kind of hostage to somebody that knows

[52:37] all this stuff? Yeah, maybe. but

[52:39] [snorts] it's probably better than

[52:41] somebody that doesn't have those expert

[52:44] levels of expertise. So, I'm thinking

[52:47] there's some value to that. I mean,

[52:49] there's some other differences in here

[52:51] that you can point to, but you know, to

[52:53] me, when I'm looking at those are the

[52:54] only two I would be considering, and I

[52:56] think that the ad of having a BSNA approved partner

[53:03] is legit. I've run into this in the past

[53:07] with, you know, people that were ware

[53:09] certified back when that was an

[53:11] operating system. You know, it made a

[53:14] difference that you had a CNA versus

[53:17] somebody that that wasn't. They didn't

[53:18] know how the software worked beyond the general stuff, you know, they knew

[53:23] the minutia. So there in my past, I

[53:26] found that that is a benefit that's that

[53:30] has value.

[53:32] Yeah, I think it's a bonus definitely

[53:34] with this DC3 being affiliated in

[53:37] partnership with the DSMA. That's a

[53:39] positive plus.

[53:43] >> And Megan I know has dove very deep into

[53:46] this. She you've been on it for what six

[53:48] weeks, seven weeks, met with not only

[53:50] did she meet with all the vendors, but

[53:52] she met with every one of the staff. The

[53:54] staff are part of the you know part of

[53:56] the decision- making process. So, I I

[53:58] you know, I have come to respect Megan's

[54:02] um and again, I said it with John. You

[54:04] know, I'm very skeptical skeptical of

[54:06] anything you bring to me that I know

[54:07] I've got to pay an annual fee and they

[54:09] hold me hostage, but that's where the

[54:11] world has come. That's what we're doing

[54:12] with all of our software now. So, Megan,

[54:14] I think you've done a great job. Is

[54:16] there any other questions or comments

[54:17] from the board?

[54:19] Okay, I'll entertain a motion regarding

[54:21] the contract award the contract award

[54:23] for IT services to VC3 as recommended by

[54:26] assistant manager Megan Gio.

[54:29] >> Motion to approve.

[54:30] >> Second.

[54:31] >> All right. Motion's been moved and

[54:32] seconded. Any further discussion?

[54:33] >> We revisit this in three years to see

[54:35] how it's going.

[54:37] >> Sure, we can do it. Well, I mean, if

[54:39] we're locked in for years,

[54:40] >> but that's only for that's only for one,

[54:42] >> you know, that's for the it.

[54:44] >> Let's just keep something. Just keep an

[54:46] eye on

[54:47] >> I think the staff's going to let us

[54:48] know.

[54:49] >> I'll be honest with you. I I I I mean,

[54:51] I'm certainly going to ask Tom. I'm

[54:53] going to ask Megan what, you know, what what price are they charging now?

[54:57] And I think we're going to know within

[54:58] the you know, once the implementation

[55:00] starts, the staff's either going to go

[55:02] this is amazing or we're going to know

[55:04] and it's going to come back to this

[55:05] board anyway. But I think is with her

[55:08] research I think this is a good

[55:10] decision. So

[55:12] any other discussion and we will stay on

[55:14] top of it.

[55:16] >> All right. Hearing none. Clerk Crew,

[55:18] will you please call the role?

[55:19] >> Yes. Kesler?

[55:20] >> Yes.

[55:21] >> Gopal?

[55:22] >> Yes.

[55:22] >> Tucker?

[55:23] >> Yes.

[55:24] >> I vote yes. Reed,

[55:26] >> yes.

[55:28] >> Pardon me. Lorraine,

[55:30] >> yes.

[55:30] >> Clark,

[55:31] >> yes.

[55:32] >> Motion passes.

[55:33] >> All right, moving next thing. Thanks,

[55:35] Megan, very much. Appreciate it. Next

[55:37] under new business, the approval of the

[55:38] 2026 Fenton Township operating millage

[55:41] rate. U, we've all reviewed the memo in

[55:43] the packet. I'm going to read a

[55:44] narrative that Tom wrote just for our

[55:47] attendees um that maybe you've got this

[55:50] in the packet, but um as you will

[55:53] recall, a 2020 uh 2021 Michigan Court of

[55:55] Appeals ruling determined that charter

[55:57] townships may levy up to five mills

[55:59] subject to the Headley Roadback

[56:01] calculations regardless of how the

[56:02] township became a charter township.

[56:04] Prior to 2022, based on the 1985

[56:07] attorney general attorney general

[56:09] opinion, Fenton Township only levity a

[56:11] millage rate based on the allocated

[56:13] county mill at the time Fenton Township

[56:15] became a charter township by board

[56:17] resolution in 1980. That millage rate

[56:20] was 1.04 mills which by 2021 had been

[56:23] reduced to our current which is 0.6576

[56:26] due to the Headley roll back

[56:28] calculations.

[56:30] Um, the 2021 ruling increased the

[56:33] maximum millage rate the township can

[56:35] levy substantially. When the board

[56:37] reviewed this information a year ago, we

[56:39] had a special meeting. It was decided to

[56:40] leave the 2025 millage rate unchanged at

[56:43] 0.6576.

[56:45] With the deadline to file the township's

[56:47] L429 form approaching, uh, which there

[56:50] is a draft attached, the board needs to

[56:52] determine the 2026 property tax millage

[56:55] rate. For 2026, the maximum allow

[56:58] allowable millage levy is 3.00001.

[57:03] Um, based on our prior board decisions

[57:05] and anticipated revenue needs for 2027,

[57:08] uh, it's both Tom and I's recommendation

[57:09] that the board maintain the mill rate at

[57:11] 06576

[57:13] for 2026 tax role. And just to give you

[57:16] an idea, again, a township that is

[57:18] well-managed. Just letting you know that

[57:20] the board and the staff that works here

[57:22] works with the same mill. And Tom, that

[57:24] mill

[57:25] It's been since

[57:27] >> 0.65

[57:28] >> 21

[57:29] >> 2021.

[57:30] >> It's been the same since 21, I believe.

[57:32] >> Yeah. Since 2021. Um, and we're

[57:35] certainly coming to you again and not

[57:36] asking to raise that millage rate and

[57:38] keep the millage rate exactly where it

[57:40] is. So, um, any questions or comments

[57:43] from the board?

[57:45] I will say that the millillage that

[57:48] you're recommending is about

[57:52] a quarter of what the cap is.

[57:55] >> Yep.

[57:55] >> And we're throwing millages out there.

[57:59] Did my division problem upside down, so

[58:01] it didn't give me the exact answer, but

[58:04] I rough math tells me it's about a

[58:06] fourth of what the allowable millage is.

[58:09] I have I don't have any

[58:11] desire or inkling to move that amount. I

[58:14] think the staff has done a great job

[58:16] with budgeting

[58:18] operating within that budget. It does

[58:20] annoy me when I see millage proposals

[58:23] that are in excess of 1 mil for extras

[58:27] if you will when we run the township on

[58:30] 65 of a mill. But nevertheless, so I'm

[58:35] good with keeping aware of that. Well,

[58:37] you know, a lot of cities depend on

[58:39] mills, so you can't really hold them.

[58:42] But, you know, you take a look at the

[58:43] city of Fenton, wasn't it? A little over

[58:44] three mills for just road improvement.

[58:47] Um, and I think your math was a little

[58:49] wrong because we're at 0.6. We go to

[58:51] three. So, it's a little more than that.

[58:53] Um, you're right. Between four,

[58:57] but anyway. Um, you know, people talk

[59:01] about roads. You know, people think that

[59:03] the township is responsible for roads.

[59:05] We're not. Um, you know, that's why we

[59:07] do a lot of special assessments. But,

[59:08] you know, the board could look at things

[59:10] in the future because people always say,

[59:11] "Well, our roads are bad." I don't think

[59:14] I think people think their roads are bad

[59:15] until we came to you as a township and

[59:17] said, "Well, we're going to raise your

[59:19] millage rate from 0.675 to three." Um,

[59:24] and uh, so anyway,

[59:25] >> more like a fifth.

[59:26] >> Yeah, fifth.

[59:28] >> That's why I said five. a little more

[59:30] than

[59:31] >> so anyway again I think it's all due to

[59:34] how well managed our staff is amazing

[59:38] the tenure of our staff is probably

[59:40] average probably 15 years um we've got

[59:44] people that have worked for the township

[59:45] love the township um the township's

[59:47] well-managed Tom does a great job on

[59:49] budgeting um meets with department heads

[59:51] uh puts together budgets for all

[59:53] departments and uh it shows when it

[59:56] comes time

[59:58] to uh renew this millillage. So, it's my

[1:00:01] recommendation and Tom's recommen

[1:00:02] recommendation to keep it at 0.6576.

[1:00:05] Are there any other questions?

[1:00:09] Okay. I'll entertain a motion regarding

[1:00:10] the proposed mill rate of 0.6576 for

[1:00:13] Fenton Township's operating millage for

[1:00:15] the December 2026 property tax role.

[1:00:17] >> I'll support a motion to approve.

[1:00:19] Second.

[1:00:20] >> Motion's been moved and seconded. Any

[1:00:21] further discussion? Hearing none, clerk

[1:00:23] approve, you please call the role.

[1:00:25] >> Kesler,

[1:00:26] >> yes.

[1:00:26] >> GPel,

[1:00:27] >> yes. I vote yes. Reed,

[1:00:29] >> yes.

[1:00:30] >> Lorraine,

[1:00:30] >> yes.

[1:00:31] >> Clark,

[1:00:31] >> yes.

[1:00:32] >> Tucker,

[1:00:33] >> yes.

[1:00:33] >> Motion passes.

[1:00:35] >> Okay, moving on to board comment. Is

[1:00:37] there anyone on the board who has

[1:00:38] additional concerns or com comments?

[1:00:42] All right, we will now um open up the

[1:00:44] meeting for public comment on agenda or

[1:00:46] non-aggenda items. I'll now open up the

[1:00:48] meeting for public comment on agenda or

[1:00:50] non-aggenda items. Uh the board is going

[1:00:53] to ask you to keep your comments to

[1:00:54] three minutes or less today. First, is

[1:00:57] there anyone in the audience who'd like

[1:00:58] to address the board? I think Yes. Come

[1:01:00] on up, Matt. How are you?

[1:01:03] All we need is your name.

[1:01:05] >> Absolutely.

[1:01:06] >> Hi everybody. Matt Burchard at 460 West

[1:01:08] Four Lakes Drive. Um couldn't comment

[1:01:10] regarding the SBANA part portion, but

[1:01:12] was there a multi-year contract for that

[1:01:14] or is that a one year each time? Wasn't

[1:01:17] sure if you can negotiate a multi-year

[1:01:18] deal on that?

[1:01:19] >> Well, that was my question is whether

[1:01:21] you get multiple and it's not.

[1:01:23] >> Yeah, because our ERP system, we work at

[1:01:25] our office. We multi-year contracts and

[1:01:27] negotiate down a little bit there. So,

[1:01:29] maybe some room for improvement if you

[1:01:31] want to try that. Um,

[1:01:32] >> she's already did that.

[1:01:33] >> Okay, awesome.

[1:01:34] >> They want to offer it.

[1:01:35] >> And then about the public search portion

[1:01:37] of it, they said they're possibly doing

[1:01:39] a search fee. Um, I would ask the board

[1:01:42] not to implement that for per record

[1:01:44] check for residents of the township. Um,

[1:01:47] Lynon and uh, Benton City don't require

[1:01:50] you to pay like per record search right

[1:01:52] now.

[1:01:55] Yeah, you are. I don't think we have a

[1:01:57] plans of doing that.

[1:01:58] >> Perfect. Perfect. Okay. And then real

[1:02:00] quick, um, thank everybody for approving

[1:02:02] the master plan on September 1st. I

[1:02:04] appreciate you seeing this important

[1:02:05] process move forward. Now that the board

[1:02:07] has taken that step, I respectfully ask

[1:02:09] that you also discuss and act on the

[1:02:11] more Torm request I previously

[1:02:13] submitted. My concern is the township

[1:02:15] could continue approving major zoning

[1:02:17] changes and development projects while

[1:02:19] residents are still waiting for an

[1:02:20] opportunity to help shape the township's

[1:02:22] future. Those approvals can establish

[1:02:24] land uses, densities, and infrastructure

[1:02:27] that demands that affect our community

[1:02:29] for decades. If we're asking residents

[1:02:31] to participate in developing a new

[1:02:33] master plan, we should give them the

[1:02:35] opportunity before more of the

[1:02:37] township's most consequential land use

[1:02:39] decisions have already been made.

[1:02:41] Otherwise, we risk investing time and

[1:02:43] money in a planning process after some

[1:02:45] of the available choices have already

[1:02:46] been taken off the table. So, I'm not

[1:02:49] asking the township to stop all

[1:02:50] development indefinitely. I'm asking the

[1:02:52] board to work with the planning

[1:02:53] commission and township attorney to

[1:02:55] determine which categories of

[1:02:56] development approval can lawfully and

[1:02:58] temporarily be paused while the master

[1:03:00] plan is being reviewed and rewritten.

[1:03:03] There's a recent Michigan example. On

[1:03:04] March 9th, 2026, Georgetown Township

[1:03:07] near Grand Rapids, adopted a temporary

[1:03:09] moratorium while it reviewed its master

[1:03:11] plan and zoning ordinance and evaluated

[1:03:14] concerns involving traffic, electrical

[1:03:16] capacity, sewers, schools, and emergency

[1:03:18] services. So, I'm requesting two

[1:03:20] specific actions. One, place this

[1:03:22] request on the next available township

[1:03:24] board agenda for public discussion and

[1:03:26] request that the planning commission

[1:03:27] also consider it. and two, direct the

[1:03:29] township attorney to review the

[1:03:31] Georgetown township moratorum ordinance

[1:03:33] and prepare a proposed temporary

[1:03:35] moratorum for consideration with a clear

[1:03:37] defined scope, reasonable duration, and

[1:03:40] necessary exemptions. Thanks for your

[1:03:42] consideration.

[1:03:42] >> Thanks, Matt.

[1:03:43] >> Appreciate it.

[1:03:44] >> Anybody else in the audience that like

[1:03:46] to address the board on agenda,

[1:03:47] non-aggenda items?

[1:03:50] >> Yes, sir.

[1:03:51] >> How you doing?

[1:03:52] >> Good.

[1:03:56] Yeah, my name is Andrew Tulle, 1272

[1:03:58] Teresa Drive. Just wanted to reiterate

[1:04:01] on the previous meeting on September

[1:04:03] 1st, we've been working to put together

[1:04:05] a Fenton Township Development Coalition.

[1:04:08] We'll work with other residents to kind

[1:04:09] of put this together and I've been

[1:04:12] taking the time to just understand

[1:04:14] everyone on the board, understand the

[1:04:15] processes because I think it's important

[1:04:16] because I'm I'm fairly new to this. I've

[1:04:19] worked with other institutions to try to

[1:04:21] put a quorum together to understand how

[1:04:22] this all works. So this is you have to

[1:04:25] excuse as I understand the process here.

[1:04:28] But you know I'm hearing a lot of you

[1:04:32] know we're dishing out money as things

[1:04:34] changing. We got a lot of change and I'm

[1:04:36] studying the master plan from 2024

[1:04:38] trying to find the the best way to be a a reasonable and responsible

[1:04:43] stakeholder for the upcoming

[1:04:44] transformation of of the township that's

[1:04:47] happening in front of me. Um, so I'm I'm

[1:04:50] just standing up here today just asking,

[1:04:53] you know,

[1:04:56] as we move into this these changes, I'm

[1:04:59] not really, you know, going to discuss

[1:05:00] moratoriums and stuff like that, but how

[1:05:03] can we be more responsible as

[1:05:06] stakeholders because I don't think

[1:05:08] coming up here and say I'm against

[1:05:12] development. I couldn't collectively say

[1:05:14] that because development is inevitable.

[1:05:15] It's just how can we reasonably have a

[1:05:17] dialogue between yourselves, the zoning

[1:05:21] commission

[1:05:22] that is productive. So when I work with

[1:05:25] this development coalition that I'm

[1:05:27] trying to put together, I feel it's a

[1:05:29] stepping stone for a dialogue because

[1:05:31] now we can prepare ourselves as we put

[1:05:34] ourselves out in front of you and not

[1:05:36] just to sit here and arbitrarily

[1:05:38] challenge each board member and every

[1:05:40] person on the zoning commission. We're

[1:05:42] just trying to understand it. Like I

[1:05:44] heard a lot of numbers and I hear when

[1:05:46] we passed the budget like in the

[1:05:48] beginning, but I don't truly know what

[1:05:50] those mean yet. But I'm trying to

[1:05:53] understand that. So I'm just asking

[1:05:56] board members as I work to understand

[1:05:59] the master plan, understand the master

[1:06:01] plan process,

[1:06:03] do we believe that

[1:06:06] this resident involvement is truly

[1:06:09] important? Because I do. I think I I

[1:06:11] would like to as a township resident be

[1:06:13] a part of that process productively and

[1:06:17] have productive conversations.

[1:06:20] As I lay that format out and I stand in

[1:06:22] front of you today, I'm essentially

[1:06:25] trying to ask you like let's have a

[1:06:27] conversation because I can tell you as I

[1:06:29] discuss this coalition, people are

[1:06:31] interested, but the way we go about it

[1:06:34] is still very much uncollected and we

[1:06:38] don't have a a lot of time like this meeting we had less than 24 hours

[1:06:43] to really study the position or agenda

[1:06:46] which I don't you know I don't

[1:06:48] understand what the process of that but

[1:06:50] I will. So the question that I'm going

[1:06:53] to leave and I you know I said there's a

[1:06:56] lot of questions that I have but I have

[1:06:57] a limited time in front of you but is

[1:07:00] you know if we're going to update the

[1:07:01] master plan and again I think that's

[1:07:03] appropriate.

[1:07:05] We we're all have identified conditions

[1:07:08] are changing and and changing and the

[1:07:09] numbers seem to that we're spending

[1:07:11] money whether we needed to or we're

[1:07:13] being proactive at these changes. But

[1:07:16] you know how do we make today sure

[1:07:18] today's individual development decisions

[1:07:22] effective and to make sure that as we go

[1:07:24] into this process and determine

[1:07:27] tomorrow's master plan and get residents

[1:07:31] involved.

[1:07:34] Do we have an opport and h how do we

[1:07:36] make that opportunity available and make

[1:07:38] it productive? So as we go forward in

[1:07:43] the RFPs and the timelines start to go

[1:07:45] out,

[1:07:47] the Benton Development Coalition

[1:07:51] is something that I continue to work

[1:07:53] with and get more people involved and

[1:07:55] have more interest. And I would just ask

[1:07:57] that

[1:07:59] help me understand to get the best most

[1:08:02] productive information that I need to

[1:08:04] help you guys make collective decisions

[1:08:06] that are relative to our community and

[1:08:10] residents can feel involved in that

[1:08:11] process.

[1:08:12] >> Thank you.

[1:08:12] very much.

[1:08:14] >> Anyone else that's present this evening?

[1:08:17] Yes.

[1:08:19] >> How are you?

[1:08:20] >> Good. How are you guys?

[1:08:21] >> Good.

[1:08:22] >> As promised, I thank you. Patty Con

[1:08:25] Lynon Ripley Road. I've uh my reverse

[1:08:28] foyer. So, I'm going to provide this

[1:08:30] tomorrow and I'm going to do some foyer

[1:08:32] request. I did the research into the

[1:08:34] redwood and I'm interested in knowing

[1:08:36] and I'm going to meet with Mike and I

[1:08:37] have a copy for him as well and

[1:08:39] understanding where we are in the

[1:08:41] approval status because there's still I

[1:08:43] think some outstanding red flags and I

[1:08:45] think there were some right terms that

[1:08:46] need to happen. I want to make sure

[1:08:47] everybody's provided what is needed and

[1:08:49] necessary because I did a headcount

[1:08:52] assessment and we're exceeding FAA

[1:08:56] regulations by 45 and 55%. And that's

[1:09:01] per acre and that's with the reduced

[1:09:04] 187 units with the 1.6 calculation which

[1:09:09] was their target per unit. So we got to

[1:09:13] be careful. I'm a mama bear when it

[1:09:15] comes to my communities and my

[1:09:17] residents. So, as committed, I have this

[1:09:19] report and I show in in lessons learned

[1:09:22] from an automotive perspective, we do a

[1:09:24] read across. So, whenever information is

[1:09:27] provided from an Eagle organization,

[1:09:28] it's shared across and it's also shared

[1:09:31] up and then down within the county.

[1:09:35] Okay, any questions?

[1:09:36] >> Thank you very much.

[1:09:37] >> Thank you guys. Appreciate the time.

[1:09:39] >> Yep. Anyone else here in attendance that

[1:09:41] would like to address the board on

[1:09:42] agenda or non-aggenda items?

[1:09:44] Hearing none, I will move to Zoom. Is

[1:09:47] there anyone attending via Zoom that

[1:09:48] would like to address the board on

[1:09:50] agenda or non-aggenda items? If so, if

[1:09:53] you could unmute.

[1:09:59] Okay. Hearing none, um [clears throat]

[1:10:02] we now have to move into close session.

[1:10:04] So I will ask everyone uh that they will

[1:10:06] have to leave. Um

[1:10:09] uh I need a motion to recess the open

[1:10:11] meeting for the purpose of convening a

[1:10:13] closed session to review pending

[1:10:14] litigation.

[1:10:16] >> I'll make that motion.

[1:10:17] >> Second.

[1:10:18] >> Motion's been moved and seconded. Any

[1:10:20] further discussion? Hearing none. Cler

[1:10:22] Crew, will you please call the role?

[1:10:24] >> Lorraine,

[1:10:25] >> yes.

[1:10:26] >> Reed,

[1:10:27] >> yes.

[1:10:28] >> Clark,

[1:10:29] >> yes.

[1:10:30] >> I vote yes. Kesler,

[1:10:31] >> yes. Goal.

[1:10:33] >> Yes.

[1:10:35] >> Tucker.

[1:10:35] >> Yes.

[1:10:38] >> And just so you know, if you want, you

[1:10:39] can go upstairs if you want to and then

[1:10:42] come back down. We don't know how long

[1:10:44] we're going to be in close session. Um

[1:10:46] but you can certainly we can certainly

[1:10:48] send someone up to get you guys if you

[1:10:50] would like us to do that.

[1:10:53] If if not, we do ask everyone that they

[1:10:55] would do have to leave.

[1:11:05] » [snorts]

Fenton Township Board Meeting 9-15-26

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