[0:14] Yeah, >> me turn the mic on. Good evening

[0:16] everyone. Welcome to the Fenton board committee meeting. This is September

[0:20] 3rd, 2026. We'll begin with the pledge of allegiance.

[0:39] roll call, please. >> Alderman Lang

[0:42] » here. >> Alderman Brightchef here.

[0:43] » Al Whisper here. >> Alderman Rogers

[0:45] » here. >> Alderwoman Hills here. Alderwoman Jokers

[0:48] here. Alder Mazerang here. Alderman Harrell, excused, Dabson. Seven for the

[0:52] quorum. Okay. Uh, >> mayor's comments been hot out there.

[0:57] All I can say. I guess that's why we didn't have the uh event this evening.

[1:04] Their >> the U farmers market. Okay. I didn't see

[1:10] where that was published or anything, but did I miss that?

[1:14] It was on Facebook. Okay. >> All right. Public comments. Do we have

[1:17] any public comments, Jane? >> I have no public comments.

[1:20] » I don't see anybody in the audience that cares.

[1:23] » Can I just speak? Can we fix that sign? The banner is always

[1:29] » Where are we talking about? >> Farmers Market sign. I'm just letting

[1:32] you know every time I drive past that sign down.

[1:35] » How about How about if Uncle Joe fixes it for permanent

[1:37] » or Yeah. Or we come up with a different I'll take care of it.

[1:40] » But it's always bent over that you can't even see what it is.

[1:44] » We've got to pay attention to those things.

[1:47] » But or or just get a different kind of that whatever it is.

[1:50] » I'll take care of it. >> Okay.

[1:51] » Thank you. We're going to first move to the P

[1:56] police municipal courts. Alderman Malang is chair on that committee. Harold

[2:00] Rogers and Jokers. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. First up tonight, we have a

[2:03] consideration of request from St. Paul for a road closure and police assistance

[2:07] for a walk-athon parade on October 30th. Uh C827 memo from Jane. Um looks like

[2:14] it's 8:15 to 9:15 a.m. Friday, October 30th. uh requesting police assistance

[2:19] and road closures. They have approximately 370 participants and two

[2:23] vehicles in the parade. Start at St. Paul and Forest Null. Head

[2:27] down New Smiser Mill, heading west, right on Woodway, continue on Woodway

[2:31] Circle, back to New Smiser Mill Road, heading east to Forestnull Drive, and

[2:35] back up to St. Paul. Um there any other additions to this, Jane?

[2:41] This is an annual walkathon that they have each year and the police assistant

[2:46] um going out and back on on that. >> Yeah.

[2:52] » Only an hour. >> Yeah.

[2:54] » Um I just that goes right by my house. I want to say it's obviously it's very

[2:58] well attended and the kids love it. Um I I would I'm very much in for it. A lot

[3:03] of neighbors come out and watch them too. So it is a fun thing for

[3:07] » Any other questions? This time I'd like to make a motion to approve.

[3:12] » Need a second. Alderman Jokers. >> Second.

[3:15] » Uh we have a motion by Lang, second by Jokers. Do we have further comment? All

[3:19] in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carries.

[3:22] » Next, we have a consideration of request for the city to purchase cell phones for

[3:25] the business resource officers and neighborhood policing officer. I know we

[3:29] discussed this in the past. Uh Nikki, do you want to expand on this at all or?

[3:35] Yeah, I'll be happy to kind of kick it off if you have any questions for the

[3:38] captain to address. Um, the police department is requesting that the city

[3:43] uh essentially provide the funding for three cell phones. Two for the business

[3:48] resource off the two business resource officer positions and one for the

[3:52] neighborhood policing um officer position. um if we were to do so what

[3:57] that is is that they would yeah they they would procure the phones and then

[4:02] we would just reimburse them for the cost on our monthly on our monthly bill

[4:06] um the cost is $50 per phone or $150 a month

[4:09] » which I know we discussed this a little bit before and our worry was us having

[4:12] the phones with you know just it being under our pos

[4:16] » yes our possession there would be a city-owned phone which would fall under

[4:20] our sunshine so it's best that it's it's it would be for police use police

[4:24] records that it's best that in their possession

[4:26] » and when it falls under sunshine. Explain a little bit what that creates

[4:30] for the city. >> Um what that would create for the city

[4:32] is that if the city has the if the city owns the cell phone, if the city

[4:36] provides the cell phone, that it would if any records request would come in

[4:39] that we would have to be able to search or use their their phones for those

[4:43] records requests. Whereas what they're using it for is police business. That

[4:46] should fall under their sunshine, their records request for their police

[4:49] business. >> Alderman Mazerie,

[4:51] » I have a question for the captain. Um, do most officers do they have a a phone

[4:57] issued by the St. Louis County Police? I mean, it seems like it's almost an

[4:59] essential uh tool in today's society that or do that most officers just rely

[5:04] on their personal cell phone if they during the day-to-day activities.

[5:08] » No, there are very few officers uh especially division of patrol. So, your

[5:12] commanders have one uh captains and then some of the specialized units uh that

[5:17] are on call usually 24 hours a day. So most of your patrolmen uh do not have a

[5:22] phone. >> Okay. This seems like it's such an

[5:25] essential part of everyday life that that it would be, you know, and I I

[5:29] understand the reasons why officers may not want to use their um personal phone

[5:33] for police work um because of sunshine stuff like that, but I just seem it

[5:38] seems like almost makes sense that all officers would have one nowadays.

[5:45] » Sorry, I can't speak. Um why like like what are they obviously

[5:51] they're not out there with no way to communicate like what are they using now

[5:55] that's not working so why do you need cell phone

[5:59] » know what I mean? >> Yeah. Um currently uh uh officer Dilks

[6:05] does have a phone that is city-owned that you all pay for. Um and then uh the

[6:11] two what this is for is the two business resource officers. Um, so

[6:17] the past business resource officer, I know uh officer Carr when he left and

[6:21] went to uh personnel, they the department had him keep that because he

[6:25] was doing background investigations on uh applicants, police applicants. So

[6:30] that phone went with him. So Jared, so Jared, officer Abalov and Officer

[6:35] Meyers, uh they do get a lot of calls uh with the um the professional connection

[6:42] that they have with a lot of the business owners. A lot of these owners,

[6:45] if a crime occurs uh over a weekend, they call officer um Abalov and Meyers

[6:53] on their phone to report those crimes that they don't typically call the

[6:58] officers who are working and just have officers Abalov and Meyers respond to

[7:04] their location the next day that they're working to to write those reports. And

[7:08] they're constantly sharing information um information from uh surveillance

[7:13] cameras. They're sending a lot of those by phone and obviously those personal

[7:17] phones if they are subpoenaed then they are if they get a subpoena for that

[7:22] phone then they're out of their personal phone. Whereas if the department would

[7:26] subpoena the phone that I the department phone that I have then the department

[7:30] would end up giving me another phone while that one was sitting in evidence.

[7:36] But we don't want to purchase these but then we are going to be paying you back

[7:41] for them like right like >> so so the way that it works if if we

[7:45] bought the phones and let them use them we're subject to sunshine we if somebody

[7:51] comes and requests information off okay that becomes pretty costly for the city

[7:56] and timeconuming I think the real question here tonight that the

[8:00] » reimbursing them for the phone >> they buy them they're phones we

[8:04] reimburse them that's the question. Do you think that they should buy the

[8:08] phones or the city of Fenton should buy the phones? That's the real issue

[8:12] tonight. Are are those any different than their guns, bullets, handcuffs?

[8:17] » Are we paying the monthly payments for the service? Are we paying the monthly

[8:21] payments to pay off the phones? Because if we're paying off the phones, then

[8:25] we're buying the phone. >> I would think it's it's

[8:27] » correct. >> I don't know the answer to that.

[8:31] » So, it's just this >> Yeah, the phones are held by them

[8:33] instead. just goes into the the reimbursement of the cost just goes into

[8:37] our monthly contract that we're paying for their overall service.

[8:41] » It's an additional cost for them to have those phones.

[8:45] » We're just buying the phone and paying for the service.

[8:48] » You're paying $1,800 a year. >> We're not buying the phone. It's to pay

[8:53] for their service, which is $50 a month. >> It just says it sound like reimbursing

[8:58] them for the phones, which >> No, no, no. It's reimbursing them

[9:01] because they're having to use because they fall under the same as the category

[9:04] as the the city is that our phones are typically free through the vendors. It's

[9:09] just that we have to pay our monthly service fee like an individual does to

[9:12] have a a your cell service and it's $50 a month.

[9:16] » No different than like the vehicles. I mean, we're not buying the vehicles, but

[9:19] we're reimbursing you guys for using them in our area, the patrol cars.

[9:24] » Okay. I think I So, we're just we're paying the service so that you could use

[9:28] them while you're >> and again what I see is it helps these

[9:31] officers do their job and not have to get calls and texts on personal cell

[9:36] phones if they needed to. So, and officer Dils, if I'm correct, will be

[9:40] transferred over to this instead of the city of Fenton. So, that's a benefit to

[9:44] us. >> And also, uh it sounds like

[9:48] » and the funds would remain. So if um officers Abelov or Myers would leave

[9:53] then obviously those phones would stay with the with the Fenton Police

[9:58] Department and yeah they're positional phones so they would stay with the NO

[10:02] and the two business resource officers >> and I do like I don't know I like the

[10:07] idea that the community is so comfortable with these

[10:13] officers that they're you know like they it's like real personal service like a

[10:19] tap on the in the street. >> Does that make sense?

[10:23] » Especially for our business owners. That's the only place we really have

[10:25] issues. Knock on wood. So, it's good for them.

[10:28] » That it kind of makes it a more personable.

[10:32] » Well, and there's there's more features that come with a cell phone than say a

[10:35] radio call or a dispatch or something. They can get pictures and have a whole

[10:39] interchange of things that would be recorded that they could write later

[10:44] that, you know. So, I I I'm for it. I think I think it's actually a small

[10:48] price to pay to help help the guys out there deal. So, any other questions

[10:53] this time? I'd like to make a motion to approve.

[10:56] » Alman Rogers. >> I second.

[10:58] » Motion by Lang, second by Rogers. Further discussion? All in favor?

[11:01] » I opposed. Motion carries. >> Next, we have a consideration of

[11:04] amendments to the traffic code related to bicycles, ebikes, motorized bicycles,

[11:08] motorized play vehicles, alternative motor vehicles, anything with wheels.

[11:13] Um, so I I believe we want to continue this again, uh, just to make sure that

[11:19] we get this correct because there's just so much that goes into it. Um, I mean,

[11:25] Aaron, is there anything you want to add to this or just I know you want to be

[11:28] sure it's all correct as well. So, >> yeah, we're still working on kind of the

[11:31] distinctions between them and why we're making certain rules for some and not

[11:35] others. >> Yeah, it's it's such a huge topic of

[11:38] discussion all over that it's changing all the time. So, we don't want to do

[11:42] something and then have to go back to the drawing board. So, at this time, I'd

[11:45] make a motion to continue. Oh, sorry. >> I did one. I There was a couple one I

[11:50] think if we do I do I I liked what I read. I do think we need to start

[11:56] looking at creating bike lanes in our roads. Then we're forcing all these

[12:00] people onto the roads, which I agree with what we're doing. Just I don't know

[12:06] how, but we might want to start looking at putting bike lanes on the road. You

[12:10] mean striping them because they have the right to ride right on the road now.

[12:13] » I know. But you know what I mean? Like it really helps if you're a biker just

[12:18] to kind of and and also for cars to be like, "Oh, that's uh the other thing is

[12:24] uh like in here it said that the the the board was doing this, you know, for

[12:29] safety, blah blah blah." But we're I would like it to say also for the record

[12:34] that it's is it state or federal law Aaron that says that we have to treat

[12:39] all electric bikes like so I think we need to put because of the

[12:45] state law saying that we have to recognize electric bikes as regular

[12:48] bicycles. That's kind of why we're here because we couldn't separate the two.

[12:54] Um, and then also because of the advancement of electric bikes going from

[12:59] 20 miles per hour to 40 miles per hour, we had to do something. But I think that

[13:02] we need to put in that because of the state law.

[13:06] It's not just put in a pickle.

[13:11] » That's it. >> At this time, I'd like to make a motion

[13:14] to approve. >> Sorry to continue. Sorry to continue.

[13:16] » Continue. Alderman Jokers. >> I second.

[13:18] » Motion by Lang, second by Jokers. Further discussion. All in favor?

[13:20] » I oppose. Motion carries. Finally, we have a consideration of a request for

[13:24] the city to purchase integrated biometric devices. Uh we have a memo

[13:28] from officer Dilks. Um but Nikki, do you have anything to add to this? A little

[13:32] bit of explanation. >> Yeah, I can just add to this for anybody

[13:35] who was on the board. The the conversation regarding live scan a few

[13:38] years ago regarding the large device that would need to come in. Um as as

[13:43] technology has evolved, um they're now able to provide essentially the same

[13:48] technology on a tablet. It's a onetime cost of a little over 2,000 per unit um

[13:54] that are hand basically handheld devices that will provide the police with what

[13:58] they need to take in the fingerprinting um and provide it to the the central uh

[14:04] then they're able to provide it to the courts because this is beneficial both

[14:06] to our courts and to our police, not just the police uh for these devices to

[14:11] exist. Um, it also allows them to catch fingerprinting on nights where the um,

[14:16] defendants may show up and haven't had their necessary fingerprinting done and

[14:20] um, abided by what requirements were. So, they would be able to catch them on

[14:24] that. Um and a lot of it has to do with at this point they are seeking two

[14:29] devices. Um both to of course be used on courtnite but one may become mobile with

[14:34] the traffic officer due to the fact that many of those are the violations that

[14:38] they need the fingerprinting um before before release and and now they have to

[14:43] require the courts have to send them a letter that states you need to go have

[14:47] this done before your court date and the likelihood of that happening usually is

[14:50] slum to none. So but I I the captain would be happy. I do know that we are

[14:55] requesting to purchase these. However, the county is going to be getting a

[14:59] trial with them to make sure that they integrate seamlessly. Um, so I think

[15:04] what we would do is we would go ahead and pass this because we have another

[15:07] hoop we would need to go through because we would essentially be donating these

[15:11] to the police department and they would have to be accepted as a donation by the

[15:15] county. So, it's going to be a bit of a process. It's going to be 30 days on our

[15:18] end, about 30 days on their end. And in the meantime, they are going to be um

[15:23] going through a trial with the uh Missouri State Highway Patrol um just to

[15:27] make sure that these are meeting all of their needs in real life um before we

[15:32] would uh go ahead and just make the purchase. So, but we like I said, it's

[15:36] going to take us a while to to pass the ordinance and then also to go to the

[15:40] county for them to approve the donations.

[15:43] » But overall, this makes life for our court a lot easier.

[15:46] » It is it's it's it serves on both sides. It saves the time of them having to send

[15:51] the letters and our post our postage time spent with that and then the police

[15:56] getting the documents they need are required to obtain um for certain

[16:00] violations.

[16:03] » I believe that includes suspended license.

[16:07] » Couple questions. So if we do the donation, it'll be like the cell phone

[16:12] where it'll stay with the city of Fenton even though we donate it

[16:16] » and then >> So we will be donating it to the police.

[16:19] I >> Oh, the precinct. Yeah,

[16:22] » it'll stay. Oh, so maybe I should Yeah, so we donate it to St. Louis County, but

[16:26] it stays with the precinct. >> I'm not an expert on how all the

[16:30] donation works. I know uh Eric um is Nurowitz.

[16:36] » Yeah, that's right. um uh had a meeting with us uh just recently and he said

[16:40] that that would be the best way to do it. Um so yes, but they would stay they

[16:44] would stay here. >> Yeah, they would.

[16:46] » We can make that a condition. >> And then what was the part I didn't get

[16:51] the part about the mo one would be mobile, one would not be.

[16:55] » Oh, what we were saying is that at some time if if the traffic officer he would

[16:59] be able to actually use it on the road, it would be mobile something that he

[17:02] could have in his car to utilize to capture the data that he did. And that

[17:07] way just in case. So one would be in the

[17:10] courts in case a traffic officer didn't get the fingerprints for somebody that

[17:13] showed up and didn't have them. Otherwise he gets it done and it's done

[17:16] ahead of time no matter what. >> Sorry. I was thinking was one was not

[17:21] mobile. So it was like a fix to something. The other was mobile.

[17:25] » No, they're they're both mobile. They're just about twice the size of a of a of

[17:29] your iPhone. Um it's just a >> the mobile device that uh takes those

[17:34] prints and then sends those prints over to the highway patrol. Um and yes, we're

[17:38] going to do our highway safety unit is supposed there. This is I don't think

[17:42] it's technology that's supposed to come out until like January. Um but I don't

[17:47] know exactly when. I know a lot of emails have been passed around to see

[17:50] when the testing evaluation phase will will begin. I haven't had a concrete uh

[17:55] answer regarding that. But uh we're going to test and evaluate the devices

[17:59] prior to any purchase to make sure they integrate with u the different IT

[18:05] systems to make sure they download properly and that they they are

[18:09] compatible.

[18:12] » Thank you. Any other questions? >> Uh just uh so I guess first quick

[18:16] question, no subscription, right? Just a flat purchase, one-time purchase and

[18:21] they have some reasonable useful life, maybe a couple years or something like

[18:25] that. Yeah. >> Okay. Back.

[18:28] » So, okay. Well, then >> 12 month warranty.

[18:31] » Okay. So, um and then um Oh, lost the other one. It was um So, is this

[18:38] something that we expect is going to be good or should we wait until they

[18:42] confirm that it's good or is that something that

[18:45] » I would definitely wait until the um the testing evaluation phase is completed

[18:50] that they are compatible units. um that we don't have any flaws with

[18:55] compatibility with the internet systems. Um they've assured us that it should be

[19:00] a smooth process with that, but >> obviously we're going to do a test and

[19:04] evaluation before before the because I think the department is going to

[19:09] purchase some too. I know our highway safety, like I said, our highway safety

[19:13] unit is wanting some of those as well. Um, and currently there there are

[19:17] fingerprintable offenses and a couple of those are like driving while revoked,

[19:21] driving while suspended. Necess normally we don't arrest uh someone for driving

[19:26] while suspended. Um, but it is a fingerprintable offense where we have to

[19:31] obtain those fingerprints. Um, so this and and just like Nikki said that uh I

[19:36] know Michelle and the courts is uh has to send those letters out repeatedly and

[19:42] the compliance on someone coming to court with the fingerprints um usually

[19:48] doesn't happen. So I'm in favor of um as long as it's going to work though. Um

[19:54] » yeah, we're not purchasing unless we know it works, but this is kind of to

[19:57] approve that if it's all good, we will Yeah. Yeah. Yep.

[20:03] Okay. >> But I'll I'll get with the attorney

[20:05] though. Should we wait until they tell us to go on this sending it to the

[20:09] county because at that point it might just be

[20:12] » I mean I think before sending to the county but I think we can move forward

[20:15] with it and authorize you to move forward

[20:17] » and then as soon as they're comfortable we can send it to the county then for

[20:20] approval for donation. >> I probably

[20:27] » thank you captain. Oh sorry. >> Oh no. Uh, at this time I'd like to make

[20:32] a motion to approve. >> Alderman Jokers.

[20:34] » I'll second. >> Motion by Lang, second by Jokers.

[20:36] Further discussion. All in favor? I oppose. Motion carries. That's all I

[20:40] have tonight, Mr. Mayor. We're going to move to personnel. Alderman Hules on the

[20:43] committee. Lang, Whisbrock, Jokers. >> Thank you, sir. Um, first item is the

[20:47] third quarter achievement awards. I have a memo from Jane Hungler. Each year on a

[20:51] quarterly basis, the city recognizes all employees who have achieved five-year

[20:55] milestones. Full-time employees will receive $10 per year of service. This

[20:59] quarter we are recognizing the following July, August and September anniversary

[21:03] for 2026. Rob Brink 5 years and Andre and Nikki Frinkbinder 20 years. The

[21:08] achievement and gift certificate will be presented at the September 24th board of

[21:12] alderman meeting.

[21:16] Next item is consideration of amendments to the job description for bookkeeper,

[21:20] accounting, administrative support, and administrative assistant at city hall.

[21:24] We have a memo from Jane Hungler.

[21:30] on these job descriptions. Um, since we have the vacancy now in the bookkeeper

[21:35] admin support, um, we want to make that a part-time flex position and we would

[21:43] like to make the administrative um, assistant um, a full-time position.

[21:51] Anybody have any questions? We're just kind of flipping it around.

[21:56] We Anybody have any questions? If not, uh,

[22:00] and I see you're asking for a final motion so that we can get this

[22:03] advertised. >> Okay. I'd like to make a final motion to

[22:07] change it to the part-time flex position.

[22:10] » Pardon me. >> Sorry. I make a motion to open it up to

[22:13] the full board. >> Okay. Second. Alderman Rogers. Yes.

[22:17] » Okay. >> He's not.

[22:19] » I'm sorry. You're not on that committee. Uh, Whisbrock.

[22:21] » Second. >> Motion by uh heel uh heels. Second by

[22:25] Whisbrock for to open up to the full board. All in favor? Opposed? Motion

[22:29] carries. >> Now, I'd like to make a final motion to

[22:31] uh make this a part-time flex so we can start getting it advertised.

[22:34] » Okay. Alderman Rogers. >> I second.

[22:36] » All right. Motion by Hu, second by Rogers. Further discussion. All in

[22:39] favor? Opposed? Motion carries. >> The last item I have is a request for

[22:43] the 2026 employee lunchon. I've got a memo from Aaron Gravel. Uh

[22:47] traditionally, the city of Fenton has an annual employee appreciation lunchon in

[22:50] December. Last year, the event was held on Friday, December 5th in the former

[22:53] library space. If approved by the board for this year, staff is suggesting the

[22:57] lunchon will be held on Friday, December 4th in the former library space. Upon

[23:01] approval, a catering will be determined by staff. This event is budgeted under

[23:05] line item and uh we something we do every year requires a motion. I'd make

[23:10] this motion. >> Okay. Alderman

[23:13] Joker. I saw your hand up first, sir. >> I'll second it.

[23:16] » Motion by second by Joker. Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed?

[23:20] Motion carries. All I have >> uh community development and affairs,

[23:24] Alderman Rogers, along with Brit Shaft, Herald, and Mazerang.

[23:27] » Thank you, Mayor. I have nothing for discussion tonight. Thank you.

[23:30] » Okay. Uh we're going to move capital improvements, Alderman Mazarang, Bright

[23:34] Shaft, Herald, and Heels. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The first item up

[23:38] for discussion is uh a memo from uh who is this from? It's from Nikki. So, um,

[23:46] so it is, uh, basically the bid opening for the 2026 park path improvement

[23:50] project was held on August 27th. The city received three bids for the project

[23:54] with Spencer Contracting submitting the lowest and most responsive bid for 140

[23:58] thou 440,376,000.

[24:02] Um, the EMR contracting was the second lowest bid at $148,780.

[24:09] Um the project will consist of removal replacement identified areas asphalt

[24:13] repair within the Fenton City Park greenway, Marramac Greenway, uh Valley

[24:17] Park, and a section of the Marramac Greenway to be overlaid. See that

[24:21] attached to project specifications. Um I guess at that at I guess I have a

[24:26] question about this. Some of the areas I know in the back of the park people have

[24:30] complained about them holding mud and water and stuff. I I guess that is

[24:33] addressing these issues and uh bringing the grade up on them and stuff.

[24:37] » Yep. Okay, Susan, >> I did have a question. Um, this is

[24:42] obviously for these specific areas, but just something to for the future, the

[24:48] path behind the Y that goes down to Westside Park. Um, the Bermuda grass is

[24:54] really eating into that path and starting to to eat it up.

[25:00] We probably need to look at treating that.

[25:04] » Yeah. And and if anybody else, Nikki, would you ask uh whoever, I don't know

[25:09] if it's Dan, the contractor, in a lot of these areas, the reason that we're going

[25:14] to have to replace it is the uh roots are pushing the asphalt up. Is that are

[25:19] those roots removed? Are those going to damage the trees? You know what? But I

[25:24] think the roots should should go away. And I I didn't read anything in there

[25:28] that would indicate that. So, would you make a footnote?

[25:31] » Follow up on that. Any other questions? And I see the bids are a bit more than

[25:39] we had budgeted. So it looks like we would have to amend the current budget.

[25:42] But uh I guess at this uh time I would make a motion that we go with uh Spencer

[25:48] Contracting the lowest bid. >> Alman Huels.

[25:52] » I'll second. >> Motion by Maserang. Second by Huels.

[25:54] Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries.

[25:57] » All right. Next item is the bid opening for the 2026 joint crack sealing

[26:03] services will be held on September 3rd and it was held. So here we have uh a

[26:07] new memo. Um the city held the bid opening for the 2026 joint crack sealing

[26:11] program on September 3rd. Eight contractors uh received uh copy

[26:16] requested copies of the bid packet with three submitting bids. Sweet and ceiling

[26:19] service submitted the lowest responsive bid ofund or $10,74.

[26:24] The next lowest bid was from parking lot maintenance at $11,753.

[26:29] The the locations to be sealed uh this year include Cassin's Drive, Fen Corp

[26:34] Drive, Oello Drive, Alvarado Drive, and San Martin Drive, the south side. Uh any

[26:39] questions? What >> uh I do I do want to mention would you

[26:43] uh ask Dan about uh Riverside and Forest Null. I know that's been done, but there

[26:49] are areas that it has come up and we need to address that.

[26:53] Sweden's who did work last year. >> I

[26:58] I don't know if I would go with Sweden's from what I've seen in my neighborhood.

[27:06] » Right. I have the same sentiments. We had discussions I think publicly about

[27:11] the the work was bad and it wasn't complete and we thought u we weren't

[27:16] happy with them. And so to to turn around and give them another contract, I

[27:21] think is pretty pretty silly on our part, even if it means paying a little

[27:25] more. >> I I would echo those two comments uh

[27:28] myself. There's other locations where Sweetens did it last year. It didn't

[27:33] seem to stick. They didn't seem to clean out the crack uh before the uh seal went

[27:38] in. >> Uh Terry and uh Jimmy, can you refresh?

[27:42] Your your streets are all concrete or they overlaid with asphalt? I'm trying

[27:45] to remember. >> No, they're solid concrete. solid

[27:47] concrete. Okay. Just trying to get the what the base is. Any other questions?

[27:53] So, does it sound like we want to go try someone different with uh parking lot

[27:57] maintenance? I'll make a motion that we go with

[28:01] parking lot maintenance for the $11,753. >> Okay. We need Alderman Brit.

[28:06] » I would second that. >> Motion by Mazang, second by Bright

[28:09] Shaff. Further discussion? Yes, sir. >> Do we need to So, we're not going with

[28:13] the lowest bid on this. Do we need to do anything?

[28:16] » No. I mean, your discussion was enough. You you are finding them the lowest,

[28:19] best, most responsive bidder, which you were allowed to do. You do not have to

[28:22] go with the lowest. >> You know, I I think that uh yeah, the

[28:26] motion is there. >> Uh if Dan feels uncomfortable or has a

[28:31] different attitude, then he can certainly talk to us before meeting and

[28:36] we, you know, we can take that under advisement, but I think this is what the

[28:39] board's looking at. I don't know that I necessarily disagree because I think

[28:43] last year there were a lot of areas in the Riverside subdivision that I saw

[28:47] that had come up relatively quick and it wasn't after the snow plowing

[28:53] » and the price is negligible. So the difference

[28:55] » so all in favor >> opposed motion carries.

[28:59] » And the final item I have tonight is uh consideration of the bid for back stop

[29:04] repairs at the Fenton Sport Complex. Staff requested quotes for two vendors

[29:08] uh from two vendors for backs stop repairs at the Fenton Sports Complex

[29:11] Elite, which was currently have an on call contract, submitted a quote of

[29:14] $18,560. A quote was also requested from J&J

[29:18] Fence, which staff has had good experience with, quoted $15,25.

[29:24] With both quotes being over the $15,000 threshold, staff is asking to weigh the

[29:29] formal bidding procedures and award the contract to J&J Fence. If approved, the

[29:33] uh um the the capital plan under back stop repairs with the budget amount

[29:37] would need to be amended. Any questions? >> Yeah.

[29:41] » But no, it was at 40,000. The bids came in at 15 and

[29:47] » Oh, so it would not or no? >> No, it would not need to be amended. The

[29:52] » budget 40,000. >> Okay. I lower

[29:56] » I and I probably am getting all of our sports

[30:01] updates confused, but I could have sworn that we

[30:05] just had these back stops done. Or was that

[30:08] » fencing? >> There were some at the sports complex

[30:12] that were re repenced by uh Chesterfield fence and deck.

[30:16] » Yeah. >> So, these these are some these are

[30:18] additional ones and they're probably in worse shape. And the one thing that we

[30:23] talked about today when we were meeting with Dan is we want to do a fix to where

[30:28] it doesn't happen again. We're going to add additional support because most of

[30:32] those are where they run into it. Um so we we want to make sure that we don't

[30:37] have that reoccurrence. So they're going to do a little bit more to reinforce

[30:42] that so we don't have to keep coming back. We got to think a little pro

[30:45] proactively. And most of a lot of this is for the Fenton Sports Complex where

[30:49] that fencing was there when we purchased it and both and had gone underwater

[30:52] during the 15 and 17 floods. So a lot of >> Yeah. But we we spent quite a bit every

[30:58] year in um back stops because we have to repair replace areas, but they're

[31:04] they're all in need. >> The kids run into it. They hang the bats

[31:08] on it. >> Well, there's no there's no support, you

[31:10] know, a foot high and naturally it's going to give

[31:14] » all those it's it's the same at Lindwood. We had a fence around the main

[31:17] stadium. Soccer balls hit across everything and they bend in. I mean,

[31:20] it's just >> we're going to make that not happen. So,

[31:23] » with with the uh I mean, we probably have 15 back stops between the two parks

[31:27] or more. I mean, so there we didn't get them all. And typically back stops take

[31:31] a lot of abuse even just from foul tips, everything, bats, and all that stuff.

[31:34] So, um >> Okay,

[31:37] » Robin, did you have a question? Oh, okay. Uh any other uh Okay. Any other

[31:43] questions? All right. All right. At this time, I'd make a motion that we go with

[31:47] uh uh who are we going with? Uh >> J&J.

[31:51] » J&J. Yeah, J&J. >> Bright.

[31:53] » I would second. >> Motion by Maserang, second by Brightch.

[31:55] Further discussion. All in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carries.

[31:59] » All I have the night, Mr. Mayor. >> Public works, forestry. Alderman Brit,

[32:02] Whisbrock, Rogers, and Maserang. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This evening, we

[32:05] have two things to discuss. Uh the first being uh consideration of a request to

[32:10] seek bids for the 2027 grass cutting services. And I have a memo from Dan.

[32:16] Um, with the current staffing level at public works, we hear that a lot. Below

[32:21] what is needed to accomplish weekly activities provided by public works,

[32:25] including park and street maintenance. Um, there are 16 parcels that we are uh

[32:30] seeking bids. Yeah, we're seeking bids. We're not

[32:35] looking at one specific contractor. Okay. Uh to take care of these areas uh

[32:40] next cutting season in 2027. Um I have a question about this one and

[32:46] it'll also roll over as the same question for the second item this

[32:50] evening and that is um if we were to get our manpower up more would we not need

[32:59] these contract and are if these contracts are written as such that we

[33:04] say yes we're going to use you or we're only going to use you in case we need

[33:09] you or how does that how does that work >> because What I'm envisioning is that we

[33:14] say, "Yeah, it's obvious we need help cutting these 16 areas, but between now

[33:19] and then, we get four or five more guys and we're able to do it ourselves. What

[33:24] do What do we do with this contract?" >> Can I Can I throw in here now? I I don't

[33:28] I don't think with the number of people that we have, I I honestly think we need

[33:32] to concentrate on our streets more than our grass and our parks. I really do. I

[33:38] think that what we need to look at, we're kind of discussing a little bit

[33:41] internally until we figure something out with the board. So, Steve Meyers, Steve

[33:46] Stevens, you know, um maybe it's time that he needs a few full-time people

[33:51] instead of part-time. The reason I say that is you Jane told us today she had

[33:57] 149 uh resumes. Out of that, they they weeded down to about 12. And how many

[34:04] did you have that responded? So since we started advertising for that position in

[34:10] January of this year, we overall have received 149 applications

[34:15] and we um hired the first round of of our applicants who are now, you know,

[34:23] into their season and we have no staff there. So, we have reached out to 12

[34:29] selected uh candidates out of the leftover pool that was there and have

[34:35] had no response. >> We uh Go ahead.

[34:39] » So, since I've been on the board, our public works department has been

[34:45] short. I mean, just I do not see in the next year or two that all of a sudden

[34:51] people are going to be like, I want to work for Fen. be nice, but let's we got

[34:57] to be realistic about this and that the reality that all of a sudden we're going

[35:02] to get five or six people that are going to stay because we hire and then a

[35:06] couple of months later somebody quit. So, I think that if we actually have a

[35:12] couple months where we have too many public works or we got people mowing the

[35:17] lawn, then we can actually use our public works for other stuff that has

[35:21] not been done because we're so short staff. So, I I don't have a problem with

[35:27] signing a contract for a year or two and actually having too many people.

[35:31] » Okay. And my my question I think is legitimate. I mean, if we sign and we're

[35:36] committed, but then we hire guys then >> um we could do the work ourselves. How

[35:41] how does that work? And >> so Terry, that's where I'm I'm trying to

[35:44] point out. So with this alternative Fenton City Park common ground area, if

[35:48] because that's what our guys mainly take a lot of time in doing every week that

[35:54] would open them up to do more of the street stuff. And I can't predict how

[35:58] many more people we're going to hire. It doesn't look like we're going to hire

[36:01] many. We we have one that has been offered a job today. Uh no, not yet. It

[36:07] hasn't, but it's it's coming that way. But I I I hear what you're saying.

[36:12] You're saying, you know, how where are we going to put a stop at the public

[36:15] works if we hire this all done? Um, not necessarily, but I just want to know if

[36:22] I was a if I was a contractor, grass cutting contractor, and you guys came to

[36:26] me and and I won a bid and I geared up manpower-wise and then all of a sudden

[36:31] you told me, "H, no, we got enough guys. We don't need you now." That that

[36:34] wouldn't be right here. So, I went into Ohio contract was going to be worded.

[36:37] I'm not saying we don't need to cut the grass. I agree. We need to cut the

[36:41] grass, >> but I'm just But these contracts are

[36:43] limited, right? It's not It's not We're not saying we're going to have you mow

[36:47] the grass for the next 20 years. It's >> Yeah, it's just

[36:52] » 27. >> Yeah, it's just for one year.

[36:54] » I think Dan has stated before in the past, too. If it's awful dry or what and

[36:58] we don't need the grass cut, he can tell them not to do it and we're not built

[37:02] for it, right? It's Yeah. So, I mean, would really be no different if if you

[37:07] say we don't need you to cut it because we got enough manpower. I mean,

[37:10] » I don't see what the difference is if he told him not to cut it.

[37:15] That doesn't happen often though. >> I believe that you're talking about as

[37:19] needed. So if it's super dry or whatever else, it's as needed cuz Dan calls them

[37:24] tells them to cut. >> If we got our own guys, it's not needed

[37:26] by them. >> Great.

[37:29] » But but if anything, we'll actually have somebody mowing the grass and then our

[37:34] guys can paint something that has needed to be

[37:38] painted for the last 20 years. Yeah. >> Some of this is logistic, too. I mean

[37:42] these these are scattered all over and it's a little tougher to run from one to

[37:46] the other to the other as opposed to having a contractor with is mobile you

[37:51] know. So uh any other >> So I do want to point out we had a

[37:56] little discussion this afternoon Robin uh Nikki and Dan and I about uh trying

[38:01] to do much as he's suggesting in the next uh item which is the snow removal.

[38:07] trying to find several smaller companies to do it and spread that out a little

[38:12] bit. So, it's what we wanted to do the last

[38:17] go round, >> but I don't think we advertised or

[38:20] pushed it that well instead of having just one big company and that company

[38:24] just was recently bought out and the service hasn't been all that great.

[38:29] » Oh, so you're saying maybe the same way with the grass cutting couple?

[38:32] » Yes. Okay, >> that's a good idea. You want to add

[38:35] anything, Nick? So, no. I I think we all agree with splitting it up to zones is

[38:39] starting to get become a very large contract that could be difficult for um

[38:44] you know, not everybody is going to be able to fill those shoes. So, to drive

[38:47] hopefully some more bids is that we're going to break it up into zones. And

[38:51] then if they can bid at all, great. But if they can only bid zone one, zone two,

[38:56] zone three, zone four, that we also understand that too. or we may even just

[39:00] do it by parcel and look at who's the best on each parcel and they'll

[39:03] understand with the bid package that we have the the choice to go all cart

[39:07] » and I think you're going to get better service that way because nobody's going

[39:10] to say oh I'm turning down that massive contract like they're going to take it

[39:14] whether they can do it or not if it's smaller it's going to be a lot easier to

[39:17] manage >> understanding though we do have to draw

[39:20] the line though that we can't be expected to follow 14 different

[39:23] contractor >> right it's a little

[39:25] » does so so um the fear the last time though is going out that way though it

[39:29] might drive up your prices because they go, "Wow, if I'm having to go mobile and

[39:33] I'm only getting these three small parcels, I'm not going to want the

[39:36] contract." So, um, but we're going to we're going to try to find a way to just

[39:40] like the snow plowing, zoning it possibly to where it more palatable, but

[39:44] smaller areas to where it might be for contractors versus

[39:49] » my daughters are costing me a lot. I can sign them up for a parcel or two.

[39:52] » There you go. >> Okay. Any other discussion? And I am

[39:56] comfortable making a motion to seek bids for grass cutting for 2027.

[40:01] » Need a second. Maserang Rogers. >> Sure, I'll second.

[40:05] » We have We have a motion by Bright Shaff, second by Maserang. We have

[40:09] further discussion. All in favor? >> I motion carries.

[40:12] » Just because that's a bid that will be a fine to be a final this evening. It's

[40:16] just allowing staff to go out to bid. >> Okay. All right. So then the um the

[40:23] second item is to talk about snow plowing on under the same premise as

[40:27] what we just discussed grass cutting. Um so does anybody have any questions or

[40:32] discussion on that? And I make a motion that we seek bids

[40:37] for the snow snow removal when it happens.

[40:40] » Alderman Rogers. >> I second.

[40:41] » Motion by Bright Shaff, second by Rogers. We have further discussion. All

[40:45] in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carries.

[40:47] » That'll do it this evening. >> All right. We have no information

[40:50] services. So, we'll move to miscellaneous. First is uh consideration

[40:54] of quotes for repairs at 900 Gregory Lane. Who wants to lead?

[40:58] » Oh, I'll be happy to kind of kick it off. Is

[41:02] that I I just want you to in front of you though are the additional quotes

[41:06] that we we happen to receive from another company yesterday. um they're

[41:10] pretty close to what Elite provided except for the fact that with Elite they

[41:13] would also be bricking in the window areas to at least make it somewhat

[41:18] decorative versus plywood um to be a little more secure around those windows.

[41:23] Um but again, it's to replace most of those doors up there that are wooden um

[41:28] with metal stronger metal doors. >> Uh Susan and Terry

[41:34] » um I How long has this building been just sitting there? I kind of I love

[41:40] this building. I would love to see it repurposed. I'd love to see instead of

[41:45] us spending money to whitewash it and and put new metal doors on it and put

[41:55] decorative plywood on it. Like either we do something with it, we repurpose it,

[42:01] or we tear it down. But it's not to sit there and keep,

[42:07] you know, doing these little repairs does not make sense. And I would love

[42:12] I'd love to repurpose it. If there's something that we can do with it, great.

[42:17] But or we need to look at tearing it down. Maybe put a splash bed. You know,

[42:20] I love splash beds. But anyway, I'm just throwing that out there.

[42:25] » Mary, uh, Susan, you pretty much stole everything I was going to say.

[42:29] » Sorry. Um, I I can't see spending a nickel on the

[42:33] place unless we have a reason or a purpose for that building in the future.

[42:37] And we keep since I've been on the board, it's come up a few times and we

[42:41] kind of just blew it off. But I but every day that goes by, that thing

[42:44] deteriorates more. Um, we have no conditioning there now. There's no

[42:48] electric there. So, the inside just falling apart. I actually went up there

[42:52] today after receiving this email yesterday from Nikki on the quotes cuz I

[42:57] wanted to see firsthand what those doors look like and and you know where they

[43:02] were and what the options were. Um and I I can't get past the rest of the

[43:07] building. I looked at the front walkway to the front entrance and it's like

[43:12] Marramck Caverns. There's still stellagmites hanging down from things

[43:15] that are leaking up there. Roofs that are leaking. um flashing that's leaking

[43:22] that building needs I would like to look at one what it would take to put that

[43:28] building back in service with an idea of what we're going to do with it or two

[43:34] what it would cost to tear it down put it back to green space I looked at it

[43:38] today in the perspective of couple thing I'm going to I'm going to

[43:43] step back for a second I'm kind of embarrassed that I said yes when we

[43:49] decided to spend the money on that parking lot up there

[43:53] because I was against spending any money for that building or surrounding area

[43:58] until I heard that it would be a great parking lot for the the new playground

[44:02] and immediately I changed my mind and said yes without looking into it. Today

[44:08] I walked that area and I thought to myself, okay, if we fix this parking

[44:12] lot, what's it going to take to get up to the playground?

[44:17] It's anybody with a stroller or a young child is walking with hand is going to

[44:21] have to walk all the way down the hill to Gregory away from the playground back

[44:27] up Gregory all the way to the bathroom to the new uh sidewalk and then up to

[44:32] the playground. That's like an eighth of a mile. But there's that it is also

[44:37] right across from what will be the Stonegate Park where people can just

[44:44] walk up that new that street there. >> Oh no, that's that's further up. That's

[44:49] about halfway between. >> No, it's by that it's right across from

[44:52] the parking lot. >> That'll have its own parking lot also.

[44:55] » Yeah. So smaller one. >> So I'm envisioning that, too. But I

[44:59] think people in Stonegate are not going to they're probably going to drive down

[45:03] and need a place to park. But anyway, I'm I'm I'm getting off track here. I'm

[45:07] losing my train of thought. Um I wish I would have stuck to my guns and said no

[45:11] on that parking lot because I feel like we're throwing money there. We're

[45:15] throwing money away there, too. Well, I realized when I drove up it today that I

[45:19] went through potholes, it is terrible, but the fact that we're going to redo

[45:22] that and it's it's already in the works. So, it's it's p past the point of no

[45:27] return, right? Um, but it's it's silly to throw any more

[45:32] money at that building unless we have a a purpose for that building. And I'm all

[45:36] for using it something or something that that that building works for. I don't

[45:43] think there's a lot of different things that are that building is really good

[45:46] for. It's pretty much one one use and it's for jails, right? But somebody

[45:51] could come up with something. The fact that we would it would have to be us

[45:55] though. the fact that we would maybe put fix it up, put it on the market, then we

[46:00] got somebody living between what we own here and what we own up there. And I

[46:06] don't think that's a good idea either. So, if I'm getting off track, I

[46:08] apologize. Who's next?

[46:11] » Well, I was just going to say it's too bad we don't have someone with vision

[46:14] like that, Bob Cassley with City Museum that could repurpose it, you know, make

[46:18] something cool out of it. But so here's a thought that just came

[46:23] to me is you know we have all this stuff at public works which is on the other

[46:28] side of the city. What if we gutted this building out and created a couple salt

[46:37] bins, mulch bins, a place to park some trucks. I what? But it might be an

[46:45] option to just gut it out and sounds like it has all this concrete there, but

[46:51] maybe we could build a garage or something to store some public works.

[46:58] Just a thought, but I'd love to save the building if we could. I I love that.

[47:04] Uh, so yeah. So my comment is I, you know, I think tonight we're looking at

[47:08] securing the building because I've heard we've got people that get in and you

[47:14] know that could cause a hazard or if they get hurt while they're inside the

[47:17] building because we didn't secured it, then they could come back at the city of

[47:20] Fenton, right, and come after us for something. So I I'm for securing the

[47:24] building. I don't disagree. We need to get something on the calendar to have

[47:29] further discussion about what we could do with that. Um, I do like maybe using

[47:34] it for storage. Uh, public works, we definitely have a lot of equipment that

[47:37] sits outside, uh, during the wintertime, uh, that we sits outside. We don't have

[47:43] enough indoor storage. We looked at one point in time increasing the building

[47:47] over at public works. That's a pretty big ticket item when maybe this building

[47:51] up there could be used for some of that. If we brick in some of it, put a garage

[47:56] door in, they could put lawnmowers or whatever else in there for the winter

[47:58] time, right? Or whatever else we're going to do. Um, so yes, I think get

[48:03] something on the thing, but I'm for securing the building tonight.

[48:06] » I I'd just like to say I don't know if some of the stuff from I called the

[48:08] mayor about a week and a half, two weeks ago. I was walking my kids up to the new

[48:11] park and the doors were busted open. The window I know there was somebody in

[48:15] there. Um, obviously didn't go in because it was my family, but I think

[48:18] that is what some of this stem from. It does need to be, you know, you don't

[48:22] know who's living in there or what's going on in there. And it's right next

[48:25] to a playground that we just built. So, I do think we need to better secure that

[48:31] building right now. >> So, secure it with the caveat that it's

[48:36] time we do something with it. >> So, I was just going to I was just going

[48:40] to tag on to that too, you know. Um I was with Terry today and we walked that

[48:45] around the building twice, by the way. 100 degree weather, you know, but I I

[48:51] think the time has come that we get serious. Get get Cochran in. Can

[48:59] the front of that building One thing I I thought, well, where the where the

[49:04] concrete where the blocks are, the glass blocks, can we can we remove that and

[49:08] structurally will it stand make a pavilion out of that? Um, like you say,

[49:15] uh, storage for moors or something. I I don't know. But it's time. I think I

[49:21] think let's just get on it and start see what it would cost to tear it down. See

[49:25] what it would cost. The bids aren't really that expensive to get. Get some

[49:30] ideas from Cochran how structurally support what we can do to to cut out.

[49:37] » Just to to add on, I think um the security is an issue. So, but however,

[49:41] since the future's uncertain, maybe we go to the minimal amount of we don't

[49:46] spend a lot any more money than we have to just to lock it up.

[49:51] So my idea, Nikki, um I think three of the doors are in the on either side of

[49:56] the bay where police offic used to drive and then the fourth one is the front

[50:03] door. >> That correct?

[50:14] » So it doesn't.

[50:18] » Okay. Those double doors. >> Yes.

[50:29] I was thinking something on the lines of boarding boarding the windows up and

[50:34] » it's not Yeah, it's >> get in the wood. The wood doesn't last

[50:37] very long. >> Ripped it off.

[50:42] » Well, we need some ideas on to do or we spend $13,000 and put brand new doors in

[50:47] a building that we >> I mean I think I don't think we have a

[50:50] choice right now. I think we have to secure it. you don't know what is going

[50:53] on in there when it's being broken into. And again, that could lead to something

[50:56] » 11 worse for the city. >> Again, please note with the difference

[51:00] in the bids is that the the one that was received yesterday is just for the

[51:05] doors. The one with the lead is the doors and the um

[51:08] » the sheet well the the windows. It's it's filling in the windows brick.

[51:14] » Oh, okay.

[51:17] So, uh, can I just make to secure the building as best as you deem fit because

[51:26] I'm that's not my specialty. Um, but then also to move forward with let's

[51:32] come up with how much would it cost to tear it down, get conquering to see what

[51:38] our options are with that building. Is it how much would it be to fix it up and

[51:43] do something with it or turn it into Does Dan need storage for some of his?

[51:52] » So, I think that's a multi-step as I see it. Right. So, first is is the building

[51:57] viable? Yes or no? >> But I'm just saying that's my motion is

[52:00] to >> a secure and b start looking at what

[52:05] we're going to do with it. >> Yep.

[52:07] » Okay. >> I need a second. Do we know which one

[52:10] we're going with? We need to >> Which one? for

[52:14] » we we have two. >> Oh,

[52:17] » uh >> elite.

[52:19] » I'm not so sure about breaking that glass in right now.

[52:24] » I can just have elite do the doors, but I we need to get we need to secure the

[52:28] windows. >> I I I just I guess with if you put

[52:32] plywood up, they don't it doesn't take them very long to get through that.

[52:36] » And where those windows are, I think. >> Is this brick going to be removable?

[52:40] Or we turn the brick out, turn the glass out and bricken the glass in.

[52:47] And if we want to put the glass back, >> brick can be removed.

[52:50] » Knock the brick out. >> Okay.

[52:59] » What are we thinking? >> So Susan made a motion that we secure

[53:03] the building. >> Yes.

[53:05] » But which contract? >> So do we go with this?

[53:08] » We're deciding which contract. >> Oh.

[53:10] Do we want to go with elite properties? Oh, they are.

[53:16] » Thank you. I got the properties. >> It's 113 combined

[53:22] » there. 11330.

[53:28] » Man, that's a lot of money. >> Oh, I should

[53:32] just to get us month or two to I mean, I know we got to secure it, but

[53:39] » Okay. So, I didn't look at that one. Elite.

[53:43] » Go with elite. And we like elite. Not just that, not

[53:49] just but uh we've used elite. We've appreciated their work.

[53:55] » And so there >> and and we can work with them to see if

[53:58] there's a different or more cost effective way and explain to them what

[54:02] the the board's decision is. Um, if you would like to make that a final motion

[54:05] this evening so we can get them started on that is

[54:08] » but but I do agree for the record I would like to see alternatives that will

[54:12] work >> for the windows

[54:14] » for the windows possible. >> That that was exactly what I

[54:19] » All right. So we need a second. Alderman Lang.

[54:22] » Second >> motion by Joker. Second by Lang. Further

[54:25] discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries.

[54:29] » All right. Next is the uh dates for the budget hearing or public hearing uh for

[54:34] our budget. Nikki, you who did the Jane, you want to run with this one?

[54:39] » Uh next, we got one more. >> Next is the uh general election general

[54:44] election. >> Oh, I'm sorry. The uh bill for uh to the

[54:48] September general election uh be held April 6th, city of Fenton

[54:55] candidate filing. >> Okay.

[54:59] I would make that motion. >> Okay, we need a second. Mazerang,

[55:01] » I'll second. >> Motion by Whisbrock, second by Mazerang.

[55:04] Further discussion. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carries.

[55:08] » Now we'll move to the budget hearing dates.

[55:12] » Reference. >> Yep. And it's just uh typically you

[55:15] would like to do it an hour in advance of either the one of the two committee

[55:20] meetings or the board meeting which would be November 19th. So the options

[55:24] are November 5th, November 12th or November 19th. However, um staff

[55:28] suggests that you go with one of the earlier fifth or 12th if uh there's a

[55:32] chance that you may want to continue it to have another uh session as we have

[55:36] the last couple of years. >> That's why I think because it's uh I'm

[55:40] going to be out of town for the 19th one and to do it before the full board

[55:44] meeting. I think it's better to do it before committee meeting

[55:49] » for the fifth. >> I I would make the motion for the fifth.

[55:52] » Okay, we need a second. Right sh >> I would second. Okay, we have a motion

[55:56] by Whisbrock, second by Bright. Further discussion? Jokers, you have any

[56:00] question? >> No, I'll second.

[56:01] » No, we got that. All in favor? I >> opposed. Motion carries. Uh, finally,

[56:08] consideration request from NextGen Recreation to reduce certain insurance

[56:12] requirements under the city's contract. >> Yep. Um, last month you approved for

[56:16] staff to move forward with our our standard public work, our small public

[56:19] works contract um with NextGen to do the needed repairs to the um playgrounds in

[56:25] Fenton City Park and Westside Park. Um they are they're willing to sign our

[56:30] contract. The only issue is they weren't able to meet the required limits on

[56:34] automobile insurance um which would be very low risk on this type of contract.

[56:39] So, they're asking that you wave um those requirements and

[56:44] » city attorney weigh in. >> Um

[56:47] » no, I mean that's exactly it. It's because they um are able to use an

[56:52] umbrella policy to get them up. They actually only have 2 million in gender

[56:55] aggurate. Of course, we require like three, five, seven members. We require

[57:00] over 3.5 million, but they also have the umbrella excess liability of 2 million

[57:04] which could amount. The problem is it is very common that these uh companies only

[57:09] have one million in auto insurance umbrella. It only gets you up to three

[57:14] million. So you're still a little over 5,000.

[57:18] Um but this just covers the automobile which there you care more

[57:24] about. There's not much gravel involved.

[57:28] » You don't sound too concerned. >> Not about this.

[57:31] » Okay. Alman Hills. >> I'll make that motion. And can we have

[57:34] that as a final please? >> Whisbrock. And this is a final.

[57:37] » Make it a final motion. >> Second.

[57:39] » Motion by second by Whisbrock. Further discussion. All in favor?

[57:44] » Motion carries. >> Turn.

[57:45] » Your turn. >> Okay. I'd like to close the meeting

[57:47] pursuant to section 610.211 legal actions, causes of action or

[57:52] litigation and section 610.0212 lease, purchase or sale of real estate.

[58:00] » We good? One and two. You you said

[58:06] » okay. Need a second. Alderman Lang. >> Second.

[58:09] » Motion by Hughes. Second by Lang. Further discussion. Roll call, please.

[58:14] » Alderwoman Heels. >> Hi.

[58:15] » Alderman Lang. >> Hi.

[58:16] » Alderman Bridechef. >> Hi.

[58:17] » Alderman Whisper. >> Hi.

[58:18] » Alderman Rogers. >> Hi.

[58:20] » Alderwoman Joker. >> Alderman Mazerang.

[58:22] » Hi. >> Motion carries.

September 3, 2026 Board of Aldermen Meeting

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