[0:00] come here

[0:11] okay I'm going to call the uh February 22nd Recreation committee

[0:18] um the agenda is uh on the table for those

[0:26] um like

[0:40] this was looking at some neighborhood and borrowing some of the things

[0:54] of it so you want to start with lifeguard first

[1:07] okay so the um

[1:16] my overview of the uh of the description yeah

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[1:28] um

[1:56] that uh

[2:00] there are words

[2:04] this week um no yeah

[2:07] one of the other things

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[2:17] like yeah

[2:30] applications

[2:45] um

[2:48] [Music] um

[3:17] really okay

[3:21] so as long as you have it I mean

[3:33] foreign [Applause]

[3:50] I I don't care yeah

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[4:17] don't really go into the filter room or at least use those items that just the

[4:24] pool manager and the headlight guard would be testing the equipment and

[4:30] [Music]

[4:35] or whatever but the actual

[4:40] vacuuming the pool is is maintenance

[4:46] vacuuming the pool is done currently by Public Works

[4:54] yeah there are a number of places that the colors do that you know if I push my

[4:59] button um there's a number of places where the

[5:01] guards do that prior to like the start of their shifts so you know that's one

[5:05] of those things that I when I looked around like maybe that's not something

[5:08] we require but if it's something we could potentially ask them I'd sooner

[5:12] advertise that up front as a hey you know as you progress in your lifeguard

[5:16] Duty you may be asked to you know we'll help we'll show you how to run the

[5:19] vacuum

[5:22] every morning

[5:28] currently it's done by Public Works yeah

[5:33] Public Works has been doing this for a few years yeah they do it that's what

[5:36] they do every morning so yeah I mean that's and that's one of the when we get

[5:40] to the schedule and some of the thoughts of the activities that's one of the the

[5:44] challenges in fitting everything in is that you know the morning duties of

[5:48] Public Works to get the pool operational and ready to go every day certainly take

[5:54] some time so and Manpower yeah

[6:01] I mean well I think that's probably a special

[6:05] Public Works um I know when we

[6:09] use my microphone I know when we used to do it there were sometimes issues with

[6:13] getting the pumps to work for vacuuming and I don't know how much responsibility

[6:18] we want to put of that onto young younger

[6:22] lifeguards I think it's probably something full manager and head

[6:27] lifeguards could handle I mean I definitely think it's something

[6:30] lifeguards can handle because we did it but it's also up to Public Works on who

[6:35] they want touching the equipment yeah and I think this year is probably going

[6:37] to be a slow learning curve because the reality is we're probably not going to

[6:41] have anyone or very few people who have been here before it's not like we're

[6:45] having repeat folks coming back like hopefully we will in the future so I

[6:49] would sooner ease into as you have folks who are willing to take on more

[6:52] responsibility and show that they can do that starting to learn some of those

[6:56] things from Jason and his staff that all right here's how we do this every

[7:00] morning and that may be something that we take off of Public Works to enable

[7:04] them to you know paint more alleys and do some of the other work that's out

[7:08] there so okay yeah that can be a work in progress

[7:16] well right now Jason's the only one certified

[7:19] anything

[7:24] yeah how many do you normally put out there I don't like vacuums

[7:28] Jason how many guys how many guys you usually put up there in the morning when

[7:32] it was up so normally it would be one or two

[7:37] guys myself and somebody else possibly a

[7:41] third guy depending on what had to be done

[7:48] all right I guess um

[8:16] so the headlight card position is is kind of like a step between the

[8:20] Lifeguard and the cool manager acts as the pool manager when the pool manager

[8:25] is off um so the idea is to either have a

[8:28] headlight guard on duty in charge or the pool manager on duty in charge

[8:33] um obviously the headlife guard

[8:37] um we usually had two of them hired um takes on a little bit more

[8:41] responsibility would also have the same

[8:46] would not necessarily be responsible for scheduling that would fall under the

[8:49] purview of the manager but for following up with scheduling and if somebody calls

[8:54] out sick be responsible for getting coverage as needed

[8:58] in the absence of having the pool manager on again pretty much everything

[9:03] follows exactly is the lifer this person would have access I think to

[9:08] the filter room because they would be acting as the pool manager when the pool

[9:12] manager wasn't there and they would have to test the water periodically so a

[9:15] couple of things that I saw from other places that um

[9:19] I would sit in here that we could certainly strike but uh lifeguard

[9:22] instructor water safety instructor preferred so certainly not required but

[9:26] if we can attract folks Additionally the two seasons of paid lifeguard experience

[9:31] obviously that may not be from here but if we can get some folks with a

[9:35] competitive pay we're offering to come with experience for these head positions

[9:40] that would certainly be uh absolutely very good for the borough

[9:45] right absolutely um yeah I think it's pretty much

[9:50] self-explanatory does anybody in the gallery have any questions

[9:56] moving along then to the pool manager

[10:01] um again we have listed 18 years of age but

[10:05] I don't think that really matters I mean if they have the experience and they had

[10:09] a time to do full management

[10:14] um and then did you find a job so

[10:22] a younger person might take a little bit more Hands-On

[10:28] um experience but I think it'd be fine yeah

[10:31] yeah we left if you look I mean it's got preferred in there so right yeah again I

[10:36] don't you know the right candidate at 17 or 16 even though right

[10:44] yeah and I think another key thing to notice is that they would be responsible

[10:48] for scheduling and maintaining lifeguard drills and training periodically

[10:53] throughout the summer just to make sure everybody's

[10:56] up-to-date and active and paying attention

[10:59] you don't practice the skills they go away

[11:07] pretty self-centered

[11:10] what I've seen previously or

[11:15] experience and then the last one then is the whole cashier

[11:22] and we do have 16 years of age consider lowering that to 15. applicants

[11:32] okay

[11:39] you could work at 14 so I don't know though yeah if you're handling money

[11:44] what the but we can certainly get an official opinion on that okay

[11:50] people come with cash quite a bit they do

[11:55] really because it was all cash

[11:59] it's supposed to pass citizen uh well the last year we did it we didn't have

[12:04] any passes because we had a late season yeah

[12:08] um but beforehand it was still mostly cash I would say on a

[12:12] what maybe 10 out of 30 people were that would have passes yeah I don't

[12:19] think we sold very many passes that that previous summer before

[12:23] covenants as someone who never carries cash I'm amazed at the amount of people

[12:27] who pay their bills at the window with cash and so I mean it's still a there's

[12:30] still a lot of the population that does that so and and the other thing being we

[12:34] charge our credit card processor charges us at three percent service fees so you

[12:39] know obviously being small we pass that along so that would be the same hurdle

[12:43] with I'm sure we'd run into up there in the days of you know having a uh I can't

[12:48] think of

[12:51] that's the one I was thinking of you know those types of things then you need

[12:55] a tablet yeah yeah

[13:02] so and again this I went off of what we had and what we what other places had

[13:09] when I did some research but having not been here during the whole open

[13:14] um certainly anyone who's worked in that capacity or worked at the pool who

[13:19] recognizes that there are things on here that you know may have been How It Was

[13:23] Written but not how things are done I open to any and all suggestions to

[13:29] change that it was a little hard for me again just because I don't have the

[13:33] perspective of being here for a season with the pool

[13:40] had to do previously so um nothing crazier out of the

[13:47] vet would not necessarily be part of a pressure job

[13:52] any questions from her what are we paying them twelve twelve

[13:58] dollars yeah man what's the manager 25.

[14:07] and 18 for a life better is what's proposed so okay now and again we'll go

[14:12] through a lot of this discussion with the full body of council tonight but you

[14:15] know preliminarily that's where we were kind

[14:19] of at to be competitive so um that's what I'm saying would it would

[14:23] it benefit

[14:25] s for your Outreach if I instead of doing an executive summary for each one

[14:30] of these if we did like a one sheet for all four like all the

[14:36] different positions we're hiring for with a brief blurb and a brief and he

[14:40] you know I'm just saying this is fairly long you know for a job or that I'm only

[14:44] looking for an executive summary then they could reference the whatever you

[14:49] have online here well and that's what I'm wondering is if I just don't put

[14:51] Fountain Hill pools hiring for the following positions full manager 25 an

[14:55] hour and a quick blur these and then you've got to refer to that you've got a

[15:00] one sheet and then yeah go to our website where these are all posted and

[15:04] you don't have to carry around a piece of paper I tried to keep them close to

[15:07] two pages but you know it's it gets somebody nicer they're detailed enough

[15:11] that it is what it is yeah you're right but I can do that

[15:17] as well as we present once all the descriptions go to yeah

[15:21] exactly I'll put them on the website but then we'll get something out there

[15:24] that's eye-catching enough that says here's what we're hiring for here's the

[15:27] rates go here for more information and even put a QR code on it that links to

[15:31] our website it's a great one perfect yeah

[15:41] I'm happy to promote this to

[15:53] um pay rates I think we've kind of coverage the same thing yeah so the next

[15:58] thing on the agenda is volunteer low-tech labor for repairs

[16:03] I know we talked a little bit about at the last council meeting

[16:07] um and it doesn't seem to be the opposition especially for the the votech

[16:11] side but also you know rolling into the uh

[16:15] volunteers to to do the caulking what I guess I don't really even really need a

[16:20] motion tonight but um I would like to go ahead then and add

[16:24] that 300 Insurance to our policy and then officially open the dialogue

[16:30] through whoever Mr zapko's contact is at votech to you know get this moving

[16:37] forward

[16:40] update we've talked to the tech on Friday and talk to all the teachers

[16:46] on a Friday morning and there's a lot of opportunities for these young people

[16:54] with their supervising faculty members to come and do work you know literally

[16:59] at no cost over community service or if there is a cost is very minimal for

[17:04] example with the caulking thing I talked with the

[17:08] the instructor from The Masonry and he's very interested in having his

[17:13] people do that as well now the Coalition is basically one of finding this for you

[17:19] okay and then delivering that contact and facilitating that conversation to

[17:25] make that go forward we're we're going to be where we are

[17:29] certified now is people that can uh award community service hours to the

[17:35] students I don't know if you are enough you are great if you're not yeah if you

[17:39] are good if not okay what I'm getting at is the kids can get

[17:42] there okay so uh there's a number of different opportunities here and again

[17:48] this is what I'm going to call young people doing labor under supervision you

[17:52] know this is not they're not putting intellectual panels

[17:57] okay but there's a lot of opportunity here and we can Avail ourselves for it

[18:03] about it and you know gets a good skills and help our local kids learn to learn a

[18:09] trade I mean I don't know how this is not Illuminating so yeah no I agree and

[18:15] then I think that's you know my hope for tonight and as you and I discuss this

[18:18] and then we'll wake up with their folks and honestly that's a

[18:23] conversation to kind of put that into touch with Jesus

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[18:33] responsibility you need yourselves

[19:08] that's

[19:15] um

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[19:34] so that is um should it be done

[19:38] uh

[19:47] and then our plan now is to pull down because

[19:53] a d freeze um so that it will get painted and um

[20:03] and then we will fill it and try and determine if we still have a lead

[20:10] problem because we have to leave a problem we do we do right now

[20:16] we're putting all that water in it we're just going to let it go down and

[20:21] peace

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[20:33] years

[20:57] drinking

[21:03] um and just working smart enough to get everything on a timeline to be able to

[21:07] open so okay her potential partnership training

[21:13] so uh I believe the coalition

[21:33] um per student so we have as many seats as

[21:37] we want and as long as they have four in there the person I have all the

[21:42] information

[21:45] um

[21:47] the question is whether we want to uh provide some sort of funding assistance

[21:54] for that or if the

[22:02] to school um

[22:15] uh

[22:20] I mean options there so

[22:26] um

[22:38] budgeted

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[23:00] in budget and my fear is worthy if you open that door

[23:07] for

[23:13] eign

[23:32] thank you leave it off the table

[23:36] T

[23:39] [Music] um

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[24:27] [Music]

[24:43] you know business for dead okay

[24:48] okay

[24:55] yeah I I think one year two years gets a little bit harder with folks because I

[25:00] mean even if you're talking to the kids you know your Dynamic changes

[25:17] I think a one-year commitment is well even if you didn't

[25:25] you know as long as you say that you know I don't know how forceful that is

[25:29] but at least I think okay [Music]

[25:33] who knows

[25:40] yeah

[25:48] but I know that one of the other communities what they were dealing with

[25:51] was mini and designated hour amount of hours served

[25:58] yeah um

[26:01] right yeah

[26:05] it was based on a season they had to provide so many hours per season

[26:11] in order

[26:16] yes

[26:20] in anticipation of this we've been out on the streets

[26:26] we're really interested in this possibility okay so we're in a meeting

[26:32] tomorrow

[26:36] yes

[26:40] they're strong

[26:48] [Music]

[26:53] yeah let me just an email

[27:15] so I'm looking going over it it seems that it will stay starting at 8 am

[27:22] um the only um with

[27:26] a Saturday I don't see anything on the grassy here we are in pool until 10 a.m

[27:32] and same for Saturday but for Monday through Friday I do see pool activities

[27:47] so so why don't we put it this way as the ultimate manager of the pool

[27:52] that's the proposed okay so should you say well you know guys it's not really

[27:58] working and you know we want to make a nine o'clock or you want to make sure

[28:02] you want to make that and it doesn't have to be

[28:05] you know in the swimming lessons which I hope to lead okay that can't be the

[28:09] entire song okay so many lessons a few weeks you know usually okay so it's

[28:16] really really flexible the the the the idea that was giving you a menu of

[28:21] things that we could offer okay that we think

[28:26] people would be interested in all ages so we have the details of that

[28:31] details of that are essentially you know how the thing works out

[28:35] but the only Village caveat of that is we have people that are willing to

[28:40] instruct those things on a cost basis okay I think uh explain

[28:46] what that means so and how they would work is essentially

[28:54] to you I mean

[28:58] um I think all of these ingredient ideas

[29:08] become yoga all these all these days

[29:11] in the Democracy area

[29:14] yeah

[29:25] citizens

[29:28] but what about other people who work here today

[29:32] right well so the best thing is just saying is that this is just a proposal

[29:36] it's not even like

[29:44] scheduling about doing classes in the evening as well for people who were

[29:50] if I wanted to like a acquisitical class at six o'clock yeah

[29:55] it's a little bit more energy well the awkward Zumba class essentially

[30:01] would be that I would say the um

[30:04] okay so again I think also the hotel is

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[30:35] all of those are possible yeah you know whether we have them all or not

[30:41] you know I consider half of them

[30:45] Jason has yeah

[30:49] the early mornings for me creates a problem okay what time do you need what

[30:55] time would say 11 o'clock would be the earliest anyone

[30:58] what time do we normally open in the past

[31:01] okay

[31:11] I mean I don't know what the physical shape of the burrow is but I don't think

[31:16] there's a lot of people that age around to be doing Aqua Zumba for more than

[31:21] they are yeah

[31:35] brown stuff again that's up to you too there's well

[31:40] my thinking is is that I'm going to say 70 of the people that might take

[31:45] advantage of this won't be going in the water yeah okay

[31:53] I appreciate the proposal I like the idea of these classes and swimming

[31:59] lessons different types of classes

[32:05] but yeah um

[32:09] yeah that was my only reason for for putting it up here today is not that we

[32:15] need to sell this out but more just to evolve into the conversation just to

[32:20] understand how their morning routine goes and

[32:23] everything because again I had a beer for a summer that I was

[32:26] open when I've been here for a summer yeah only last year

[32:29] Jason one of the other question is the pool manager I know we've always died

[32:35] with this in regards to who who decides whether the pool is open

[32:39] for the day

[32:47] are you talking about weather or so weather yeah

[32:53] like there was always on at least

[32:58] someone in the discussion in regards to who's making that call

[33:07] you know three people four people so I think that's one of the things

[33:14] right we had

[33:24] that person was also in my experience usually some of the older probably a

[33:29] teacher um who you know was experienced and

[33:33] running and having discipline and doing that and then the lives of over managing

[33:38] which is totally fine but there was always some the person that made the

[33:42] decision at Dubai wasn't necessarily understanding what was happening here so

[33:47] they would need to communicate and then there would be people who would be upset

[33:51] because the Y was making that decision Paul there's a lot of miscommunication I

[33:56] think that will eliminate some of that with hiring somebody directly who will

[34:01] be have a direct

[34:03] kind of communication Berkeley tomorrow Hall if they have questions today those

[34:07] decisions are being takes another setup and if we hire somebody who has a lot of

[34:12] experience in his older and is responsible and understands the demands

[34:16] of making sure safe over the cold but also making sure it's not complete money

[34:23] foreign

[34:28] [Music] 10 minutes

[34:47] Jason and the pool manager and and we're the headlight for the pool managers that

[34:54] they were we test again and if somebody gets wrong they contact Jason

[34:59] and how many guys did you know who's going to take a test or something so I'm

[35:03] going to be honest with you we're working on our core with the guys

[35:08] so the core and then the category I believe it's 24. yeah uh is an

[35:14] additional Rider which they need so they may have

[35:17] they may have the core in the next couple of months weeks

[35:21] but they won't have the category yet because they haven't got anything all

[35:24] right that's how I incentivized the Public Works guys to go I told them I'll

[35:28] take it with him so we're gonna go

[35:35] so if I go on vacation or I'm sick or I'm anything the pool Junction

[35:41] around

[35:54] any other questions about pool all right

[36:00] um I reviewed some of the um information and registration for I don't have any

[36:05] questions as any of it at all seems very you know yeah I think she did a

[36:10] wonderful job of it so

[36:19] one of the one of the other points of discussion that

[36:23] she had asked me about is excuse me that uh that nine o'clock

[36:31] end time at night is very dark for a lot of small kids that are walking home

[36:36] without parental supervision so she had asked and and I don't know

[36:42] how this would be received but doing a almost like a 9 to 12 break for lunch

[36:48] one to four kind of all day thing versus the evening where it gets late

[36:55] because she her feedback was there were a lot of kids that were wandering home

[36:59] in the dark at night um again I don't I don't have the

[37:03] historical perspective of the evening program and and how entrenched it is but

[37:08] I did say I would bring that up to her yeah I we always kind of did it split

[37:12] because kids tend to go to the parks program in the morning with swimming

[37:17] leave her alone eat dinner

[37:25] yeah and last year probably scooted a little bit without the pool so you know

[37:30] you certainly have that and again I told her you know I certainly I have no dog

[37:34] in the fight to be perfectly honest so I would bring it up here I do get the

[37:39] Merit of yeah the concern with the 9 pm shutdown but again if you move it five

[37:44] to eight that's dinner hour so I don't know maybe we do that and try and see

[37:49] how many kids show up at five o'clock maybe they eat their early dinner

[37:52] um just to avoid that nine o'clock because I mean it is it's really dark

[38:16] and again I I just I told her I would you know pass that along and based on

[38:20] her feedback but again last year was kind of an outlier because

[38:24] excuse me we didn't have the pool so you know you had a lot of kids who milled

[38:28] around for the afternoon so

[38:37] I know um

[38:40] comments and they were when they went out I just have one last question

[38:44] you know we indeed want to get going on this we have been doing this in

[38:49] anticipation okay of a full opening uh is there maybe the tonight's the night

[38:56] you're doing it I mean when can we move ahead when can so we're going to present

[39:01] these uh job descriptions tonight at Council okay review and then

[39:08] um probably we can vote on them tonight if we can do that right yeah it's an

[39:12] agenda item so I mean certainly it's not it's not it's under old business but I

[39:16] mean we certainly can decide to take action on them and I mean I don't even

[39:19] know honestly if we need a formal vote for

[39:23] just reviewing and consensus of you know putting a job description out there but

[39:27] I mean my goal would be to to get them after this as long as yeah okay yeah

[39:34] are you um we wasn't here

[39:39] um so it's just you and I as the core I'm

[39:42] as long as you're okay with these job descriptions I'm happy to recommend that

[39:47] you accept them if

[39:50] so as long as counselor stepson okay fine by the way if we post on anything

[39:57] on a job board Eric I'll make sure you're copied on all of that okay so you

[40:01] know what's coming okay just yeah making sure everybody knows what yeah and the

[40:05] easiest thing to do is is you know yeah honestly

[40:08] steer them to the website um I would like to get to the point

[40:12] where we automate our application it's on my list of technology to update so

[40:19] hopefully sooner than later so you know feel feel comfortable with it

[40:23] you'll be notified no hey the more the merrier so I appreciate that

[40:28] anything else for privilege

[40:33] um

[40:41] thanks everyone thank you foreign

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[41:18] I know can you give me these electronic right oh yeah

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