[0:05] All right, good evening. It is 6:31. I'm so used to saying 601, right?

[0:11] » 6:31 and we are at the September 8th meeting of the town of Georgetown Select

[0:18] Board. Thank you all for joining us. And uh this time I'm calling uh the meeting

[0:24] to order. And we have a couple of um community members to

[0:31] um recognize in our moments of our moment of silence. And uh those include

[0:36] Mary Swain, uh Jenny Jameson, and uh George Shardier.

[0:42] » Dave. >> Dave. Dave. I don't know why I keep

[0:45] saying George, but I know it's Dave. My apologies to my apologies to his family.

[0:50] Um it's a lot of loss in a in a couple weeks. Um and certainly to the working

[0:56] link. So uh for the loss of both of them and and Mr. Shardier's family lives here

[1:01] and of course he owns a business. >> Oh gosh. Dave Shardier died

[1:07] and >> we're just going to mute folks. Um uh so

[1:12] if you could join me in um acknowledging the loss to our community of all three

[1:18] of these folks, we would appreciate that.

[1:32] Okay. And um in terms of celebrations, um

[1:39] it's hard to come back to that mode of thinking when you're thinking about the

[1:43] people we just lost. Um but is there anything that you can think of that

[1:46] we're celebrating? Any new births? Um I feel like there is something. What

[1:50] exactly? exciting new school year started.

[1:52] » Okay. School kicked off. That's right. Uh that is true. And uh we have an

[1:57] interim um principal, Mr. door um who taught here many many years ago and is

[2:04] back um to fill in for a celebration we just um offered to our um uh current

[2:12] principal Caitlyn Miller and her husband who's a full-time firefighter I think in

[2:16] Woolitch and and a firefighter here now in Georgetown as well. Um all right. So

[2:23] we um if there's no other celebrations

[2:28] um I would like to recognize of course um the volunteers. One of the

[2:31] celebrations I wanted to make was for the volunteers. I saw some of them

[2:35] yesterday um at the transfer station who show up every um every weekend um and uh

[2:43] devote their time particularly at the mall, but also to helping people empty

[2:48] their cans and um you know take uh their um recycling and their buckets out of

[2:55] the cars. We see that a lot and we just want to acknowledge those those

[3:00] volunteers as well. And now we're moving on to public comment. So,

[3:05] let's start in the room. Is there any public comment for any items that are on

[3:10] the agenda? Yes, Lisa. >> The agenda.

[3:13] » Um, typically that's how under Robert's rules of order, that's typically how

[3:16] public comment is supposed to run, but um that's fine since we didn't announce

[3:20] that we'd be doing that. We'll take any public comment.

[3:23] » I just wanted to uh express a concern. There have been three times probably

[3:27] three times in the last month when I've been at the transfer station where

[3:30] people were parked in not in the appropriate spots and

[3:35] private citizens have taken it upon themselves to speak to these people.

[3:40] Sometimes not always in a happy way. >> Um and also at times when there were

[3:46] kids running around and people were parked in ways that made others have to

[3:50] drive in a dangerous pattern or potentially dangerous pattern. I know

[3:54] that you're in the process of doing performance reviews and I'm assuming job

[3:59] description kinds of things and there's a long been discussion about whose role

[4:02] is it to tell people to park correctly. I don't think it's the role of the

[4:06] private citizens. I do think it's the role of the employees. I know there's a

[4:11] concern about enforcement, but I think there are ways to enforce and I'm

[4:14] concerned and and now we're entering the slow season, but I'd like to see that be

[4:20] part of the job description, the performance ratings. Um, it's just not

[4:28] people need to be told. Sure. And and I don't I don't think they'd have to be

[4:31] aggressive. Just there are people that don't know where to park or don't notice

[4:34] the line. So simply going up to them and saying, you know, burn properly, please.

[4:40] I I think it's it's way too lax in how things are handled.

[4:44] » Okay. Thank you, Lisa. >> Uh any other public comment for folks

[4:48] who are in the um town office with with us? We probably have seven or so in the

[4:52] building with us tonight. And I'm not seeing any hands. What about out um Oh,

[4:59] okay. So, we've got at least one or two. And uh looks like Jen Debransky's on

[5:04] camera. Go ahead, Jen. >> Yeah, I just uh related to the um the

[5:09] working waterfront proclamation. I just wanted to speak briefly and support

[5:14] um and share that um I grew up in a working waterfront community and I've

[5:19] had the privilege as a young person to work in one and I um so I know that the

[5:25] working waterfront is much more than just an industry. It's part of a

[5:28] community's identity, its culture and economy and certainly way of life. Um,

[5:34] the proclamation, as I read it, does not take anything away from anyone. It does

[5:40] not create new regulations or restrictions. It simply says clearly and

[5:44] proudly that the Georgetown recognizes the value of its working waterfront and

[5:49] the people and businesses who depend upon it. These places are increasingly

[5:53] difficult to preserve once they are lost. There's no downside

[5:59] to saying that this matters to us and that we want to remain part of we want

[6:03] it to remain part of Georgetown's future. Um I believe it's both

[6:08] reasonable and an important statement for our town to make and I strongly

[6:11] support it. Thank you. >> Thank you, Jen.

[6:16] Anybody else on Zoom? Okay.

[6:22] All right. So, we have a few items to be added to the agenda. Um and so uh Tyler

[6:28] want to take us through those three please.

[6:29] » So the two items that we'd add are a discussion and possible approval for a

[6:33] liquor license of on premise beer, wine and spirits for Robin Hood Ventures

[6:37] Limited, which is Robin Hood Free Meeting House. Um this came in on

[6:40] Thursday. Had it been a license that had been held by the entity less than 5

[6:45] years, it wouldn't be on this agenda because there'd have to be public notice

[6:48] in the papers. but we have in recent years um for companies that we don't

[6:53] have to pass that cost on to have not been doing so. So that'll be something

[6:57] to add tonight. As well as a thank you from the city of Bath to the fire

[7:00] department and the town for loaning them an ambulance which was an awesome

[7:04] example of mutual aid at work. And I would note to everyone in the room in

[7:08] the audience, Zoom has had an update. So people are appearing different sizes. So

[7:12] I'm going to pin the select board and hopefully that helps. But I just want us

[7:17] to be able to be seen on the recording later. So, I'll figure out what happened

[7:21] on that update later. Um, and I would say that if we wanted to

[7:26] jump in, I see Carlos is on. We could jump right into the liquor license.

[7:32] Given the fact that that was a newly added item, I'd just say that we open an

[7:36] internal public hearing for those here. Um, and then afterwards take action on

[7:41] possible approval. >> Okay.

[7:45] Um, so we don't have to have a public hearing just to just for us to discuss

[7:48] it. Is that correct? Correct. Because if it's it's a renewal,

[7:51] » right? So, are there um uh any questions that uh either of you has for Carlos um

[7:58] or Ally if they're both here? We know Carlos is there.

[8:00] » What venue is it for? >> Um the meeting house it looks like.

[8:03] » Thank you. >> They're actually separate legal

[8:05] entities. So, we will be getting Grey Havens at the next select board meeting,

[8:10] but that one's date wasn't as time-sensitive as this one.

[8:16] » Okay. And I don't have any >> Yeah, I don't see anything wrong.

[8:19] » It's been a continued renewal. So, >> um Carlos, is there anything that you

[8:23] wanted to um apprise us of before we take a vote?

[8:28] » Other than apologizing for getting it in late. Sorry about that. You would think

[8:32] after 10 years I would figure it out. So,

[8:35] » well, >> okay.

[8:36] » We were just talking about how summer has raced by us and everybody's still

[8:40] had >> skidding from task to task.

[8:43] » So, no problem. Thank you. All right. With that, I'll entertain a motion

[8:46] regarding the um renewal of the um free Robin Hood liquor license.

[8:52] » I move that we renew the uh Robin Hood Ventures LTD liquor license for the

[8:57] meeting house. >> I'll second. Okay, you can second it.

[8:59] All those in favor? >> And that is unanimous. Thank you.

[9:03] » Okay. Thank you, Carlos. You're all set. >> Thank you.

[9:07] » And we do have a scheduled appointment at 6:45, but I do see that Clara is here

[9:12] early and that's always a good thing in meeting.

[9:14] » So, uh, Clara, do you want to come on up and or do you It's up to you. You can

[9:18] come up or you can stay there. However you'd like to come up tonight. I I don't

[9:23] know. I didn't wasn't sure if you wanted me to say something first or if you just

[9:27] have already looked at everything and you have questions. Um, so whatever is

[9:31] most helpful for you. I I've looked at it and I again want to thank you for

[9:35] putting to together the work and the yeah the proposal. That's great. Um to

[9:39] see um help especially on grant writing um and keeping track of because MCF as

[9:47] you know gives a a fair amount of um funding each year. So

[9:52] » yes. Yeah. So I I don't know if it would be helpful to just kind of recap my

[9:57] experience so far. >> Yeah. Just hit the highlights. Um you do

[10:00] have your memo and thank you for that. >> Yeah. Um so the vendor came on the 4th

[10:07] of August and spent the day at um the school. Um most of his findings. So he

[10:16] kind of had two pockets of in the first pocket he wanted to look

[10:22] at what was already in place. How was it running? What could he do to

[10:28] get it running better? And then in the second pocket it was what what uh

[10:34] recommendations did he want to make to for improvement

[10:39] and um shar said a lot of things when I met with him and chatted with him said a

[10:44] lot of things that I didn't understand that I had to then go and research a lot

[10:48] of but um a lot of what I understand is that

[10:54] there were a lot of great things purchased but they weren't necessarily

[10:58] the best things for our intention. in the space

[11:02] um or they were not installed to fidelity to what we would like. Um

[11:10] and so he did work to get the system working to full capacity as he could.

[11:17] Uh, and then he's shared with us what he would recommend for improvements,

[11:22] including how to repurpose what we currently have in a way that would

[11:26] benefit the music teacher and the students at the school.

[11:30] » Okay. >> So, um, yeah, he and he's he's happy to

[11:34] answer any questions that we have, which I said I would

[11:39] » take back to him. >> All right. Go ahead, Dan. At a high

[11:43] level, can you just give us a little bit of a difference between the option one

[11:47] and option two? Yes. >> The cost was about $1,000, give or take.

[11:51] » So, I asked him with the number being high, I asked for options. His response

[11:57] was really that the only wiggle room is with what we do with the current setup.

[12:03] So, in option one, I believe that's where we get to we would get to take

[12:10] what we have and repurpose it into the music room and benefit that space. Um,

[12:17] with option two, we forfeit that. And so then we're just looking at what what do

[12:23] we need in the actual gymnasium space? Um,

[12:28] which in my opinion, it's kind of a small difference. um and it would help

[12:34] the kiddos. So, one thing he shared with me, um he kind of acted it out actually.

[12:41] uh you know when you're on the stage if you're a kiddo and you're listening

[12:49] to a speaker or you're um trying to sing along with the music right now it's it's

[12:57] very difficult for a typical hearing student to follow what's being done

[13:03] because all of the sound is being projected straight back. So repurposing

[13:08] those community that's the brand the community speakers that are there

[13:13] currently repurposing them inside of the music room would help with that.

[13:18] » Claire, can I ask you something? So, you know, so for town meeting or a special

[13:22] town meeting or >> um even like candidates night, you know,

[13:27] when we are close to the front, >> um if we ever put the moderator like up

[13:33] on the stage, I would assume we benefit from the same thing that he was

[13:36] describing to you about anyone the kids on the stage.

[13:40] » Yeah. My understand Yes. to answer that. Yes. And then my understanding is that

[13:44] the town would really have a lot of benefits from this because not only we

[13:49] would we get better speaking abilities like more microphones um

[13:54] » that's that's dire. >> We would get the we would get the new

[14:00] um speakers that are meant for our space and kind of tilted at the angle that we

[14:05] need for our space. And then in addition to that, um, he shared some safety

[14:12] concerns about the current speaker systems that are in there and how, and

[14:18] he probably did this to help me understand, but he basically said that

[14:21] the that what we have right now would work really well if we were all at a

[14:26] restaurant and we just wanted background noise. Um, but for articulation and

[14:33] really understanding speakers, it's just not the proper setup.

[14:38] And then of course the safety concerns with Yeah. And just to put it on the

[14:42] record, the safety concerns are really like once you have everything running

[14:46] the way it's supposed to, there is a level of vibration that happens with all

[14:53] of the sound. And the current hanging speaker systems are not actually secure

[15:00] in the ceiling. They're hanging, which he said is very typical that they find

[15:04] that a lot with public space installations, but they're basically

[15:08] just hanging by the AV wires and there's no like secure wire holding them in

[15:14] place. >> They were originally mounted, but

[15:16] they've wiggled themselves to the point, >> no, they never were mounted. They just

[15:21] use the wire. >> That seems to be a common installation.

[15:26] » Yes. >> So, his interpretation because like we

[15:29] weren't there. I don't think any of us were there when the decisions were made

[15:32] for the previous system. His interpretation was

[15:36] » um so he recognized the company and he said that this is a company who has uh

[15:42] expertise in like like the the video setup that we

[15:48] got that be the beautiful projector but their expertise is not really AV

[15:54] systems like this. Um, and so he said the bid was probably lower, but their

[16:00] expertise in understanding how to do spaces like this and the safety pieces

[16:06] might not have been it might have been a little lacking.

[16:08] » Okay. >> Do you know when that was?

[16:11] » I don't. Um, >> we found an invoice and I don't know the

[16:16] date of it offand, but I might be able to find that for you.

[16:21] » It was before my time, before Caitlyn's time, and before Nah's time. So

[16:25] » yeah. >> So maybe Chris Barab or

[16:28] » there's a there's a poster in the hall that thanks everybody who's helped fund

[16:32] the addition and I think it's dated 1988. Put that in.

[16:36] » No, I think that it was done more recently. I think the new system was

[16:40] done more recently than that. Um he said that the community speakers are great

[16:44] speakers. Like it's quality it's quality um hardware, right? It's

[16:51] just not the in for the intention that we want

[16:55] and it wasn't really installed properly. >> So, but if we go with option one, yeah,

[17:00] » then we can repurpose what we have. That's the hardware is still good. It's

[17:04] just not appropriate for the space really.

[17:07] » Right. Um, so we could repurpose that rather than just chuck that and then do

[17:12] the necessary enhancements, implement a secure system um with

[17:19] assuming we get the grant. And thank you for explaining obviously that the

[17:23] matching funds wouldn't be uh required unless and until unless we got the

[17:28] grant, >> right? So, um, with the grant, we would

[17:32] have to have a letter from the school and a letter from the town in support

[17:37] and kind of agreeing to like this is what we plan to do.

[17:41] » Um, and then if we were to be granted the full grant, then

[17:47] » things would proceed. If we were to get a partial or not get the grant, then we

[17:51] would have to decide as a town what we would want to do.

[17:54] » Okay. And I'm saying the timeline for the grant is through February 17th.

[18:00] » Yeah. So it opens um in November, beginning of November.

[18:05] » So my goal would be probably to try to get as much done and into them as soon

[18:10] as possible. >> Great.

[18:12] » Yeah. >> But they uh they're looking strictly for

[18:14] matching funds or are they also looking for certain matching services, federal

[18:19] volunteer time, stuff like that? My understanding is that we don't have

[18:24] to have any funding, but to like if we let's say let's say this was only a

[18:30] $10,000 quote and we just wanted all 10,000 to come from the grant, that is

[18:36] still fine. Um what I understand is that the town cooperating and being willing

[18:43] to put in and the school town or the school doing the same increases our

[18:47] chance of getting granted the funds and it the school board uh meeting is the

[18:54] 16th I think. So >> they may have I don't know if they've

[18:57] discussed this. I don't recall it in the times I've

[19:01] » but maybe you do. But obviously Caitlyn's aware of it so Elaine is

[19:04] likely aware of it. Yeah, you guys were my first stop, so I haven't, you know, I

[19:09] figured if you guys vetoed it, then the school would veto it. So, um,

[19:14] » no, but >> I don't veto it at all.

[19:17] » No. >> The other thing that I really, uh, loved

[19:20] hearing was, you know, he said he said they would be willing to show someone

[19:25] like Mr. by everything that he would need to know about the system,

[19:30] » but that the way that they install um their desire is to have it be like once

[19:36] it's in place, we never have to touch it, right?

[19:39] » And >> famous last words, though, Claire,

[19:41] » I know, >> hanging by a cord.

[19:43] » And that um if something were to not be working the way that we would want it,

[19:47] that he would be willing to just come down and and take a look. So,

[19:50] » I'd want Tyler trained on that too as well because we just we each year we use

[19:54] it more and more on the municipal side of things, the gym.

[19:59] » And speaking candidly, I love the idea of having more microphones and acoustics

[20:04] that work and >> we do a lot of events in there and it's

[20:07] held together by bobby pins at times >> and it's frustrating for the people that

[20:10] are there. >> Yeah. I mean, a lot I can't hear

[20:13] sometimes when you all had your candidates night. I couldn't hear

[20:15] sometimes what you and Jeff were saying, >> right?

[20:18] » And you know, so and that that's hard. I just remember that and I'm sure others.

[20:23] » I would note that um last year during the budget process, the select board

[20:27] budgeted $20,000 for contingency. There's another fund

[20:32] for unexpected expenses up to 25,000 that could come out of fund balance. I

[20:37] share those numbers because we're early in the fiscal year about a sixth of the

[20:40] way through the year. Um, but there is money in contingency now. It would be if

[20:45] we went with option one just shy of 25% of the contingency. But again, there are

[20:51] a lot of conditional ifs if the grant were not to come an ongoing

[20:54] conversation. >> So, I just want us to know that. But I

[20:58] think there's money there now that we could use. Um but just be mindful that

[21:04] by March, April, May things get tighter. >> Yeah.

[21:07] » And we also it it's clear that prices can change.

[21:11] » They're not guaranteeing um Yeah, they don't.

[21:15] » On the invoice it has a little asterk. >> Yeah. What I can't remember what's the

[21:19] date for that the quote two months out >> you know I actually I'd have to ask him

[21:25] but yeah I think that with it being that the grant might not be even approved

[21:31] until June that it was hard for him to say for sure

[21:35] » okay >> prices would all be the same but um when

[21:38] he looked at the previous invoice >> where we paid for hardware before he

[21:43] said that comparatively the hardware seems to be pretty similar are right now

[21:48] with what we've what we paid in the past. So,

[21:51] » um I wouldn't expect huge differences. And um

[21:56] he did offer he has lots of schools that

[22:00] he's worked with and um St. George Elementary just got this pretty much

[22:06] this exact setup that he's recommending for us. They just got installed this

[22:10] year. I called them and they have not they had not dabbled in the new system

[22:14] yet because it was a new school year. But um it is something where I plan to

[22:19] just call and get their input and see how they're liking it at some point here

[22:23] and if you guys were interested he said he knew they'd be open to showing you

[22:28] know touring if anybody >> wanted to see it. So, is tonight more

[22:32] you need a tasset thumbs up that we're in or do you need a because then we

[22:37] could work to come up with a letter later on to meet those deadlines or

[22:41] » That's what I would love because it means that I can start putting in the um

[22:47] work on the actual application and then we can

[22:52] » get down to the nitty-gritty of like logistic letter support of support

[22:56] whatever. And then also if you guys are giving me a thumbs up, um, I'll probably

[23:02] reach out to the school board and just say this is on the table.

[23:07] » Great. >> All right. I give it a thumbs up.

[23:10] » We need a motion. I'd be ready to make a motion that we

[23:14] » Go ahead. Make your motion. That sense. I move that we support that we will we

[23:19] support you in your um in the process of applying for the grant and that we will

[23:24] support the grant financially option one or option two. Um what do you do we need

[23:30] to make that decision? >> Um we probably do we probably should

[23:32] make that decision. So are we thinking option one or option two?

[23:36] » I think for the thousand dollar one >> I think so too. I mean, it's more it's

[23:40] more bang for our buck, for sure. And it also repurposes hardware that shouldn't

[23:45] just be left to die. Yeah. >> Well, so I I support Clarins in in

[23:51] pursuing this grant uh and with the support of the select board and in uh

[23:58] going after option one. >> Okay. And do we want just given that

[24:03] there's that asterisk to half a dollar amount and if it goes beyond that we

[24:07] come back like say up to $5,000. >> Yeah, I think that's that's fair because

[24:11] I think the match would be about 3,800. Is that right? Okay. So up to $5,000,

[24:16] » you know. Um >> No, it's 48.

[24:18] » Yeah. So we're going to pursue option one,

[24:20] » which is really tight. 5,000 is really tight with

[24:23] » 48. That's right. Okay.

[24:26] » Maybe we 5,200. >> Yeah. Give it a little more

[24:31] » cushion. Hard to know what that was going to be like in June.

[24:34] » Yeah, those tariffs availability >> and come back and we can government

[24:39] action. Sure. >> So, was the 5200 a part of that motion?

[24:44] » I don't know. Do you want it to be part of that motion?

[24:47] » I don't know. Is that granular or should >> I think it might be good just so the

[24:52] school committee knows we've got skin in the game.

[24:54] » Yeah. and might keep our contractor on the hook with some of these numbers if

[24:58] he knows the money's coming. >> Yeah, could include it.

[25:03] » Okay. So, as amended um as seconded with the friendly amendment of up to 5200.

[25:09] All right. >> From contingency.

[25:11] » From contingency.

[25:14] I mean, the whole community benefits from this as we continue to use that

[25:18] space. >> It's a great step in the right

[25:21] direction. >> Yeah. The concerts,

[25:23] » how could the concerts get even better? Well, but also even by by being able to

[25:28] hear everybody, >> but even the committee meeting that

[25:30] we're going to have >> Yeah. Even the committee meeting that

[25:33] we're going to have with the chairs and, you know, two to three people of each

[25:36] committee, >> we can't have that here.

[25:39] » Yeah. >> We're going to have to spill over into

[25:40] the rest of the building. >> Um, so

[25:44] » Okay. That's that's kind of the things that I'm thinking of as as we use it.

[25:48] » Yeah. >> All right. So, all those in favor

[25:51] » and that is unanimous. >> Okay.

[25:54] Thank you. >> Please keep us posted.

[25:57] » All right.

[26:00] » All right. And coming to our next agenda item.

[26:07] » Do we want to jump down to minutes and see if we can I know we're only three

[26:12] minutes out, but some folks may still be shooting for that seven.

[26:15] » No, that's great. Just trying to find an agenda. All

[26:19] right, here we go. All right. So, first let's take up the

[26:23] July 28 minutes. June. >> June 28 minutes.

[26:26] » No, that's actually July. That was the Oh my god. Twice.

[26:30] » That is twice. Second time. >> I

[26:33] » He's just holding on to summer. I get it.

[26:36] » July. >> No, I'm I'm good. June, right?

[26:39] » No, I'm good with All right. So, um, with regard to the July 28 minutes, um,

[26:45] and the revisions that we circulated to fix any Yeah. little little um typos and

[26:52] those kinds of things. I'll entertain a motion regarding those minutes, please.

[26:55] » I move that we accept the minutes of July 28th.

[27:00] » Yes. >> Second.

[27:02] » All right. All those in favor? >> All right.

[27:04] » That's unanimous. >> Perfect. And then the same with the

[27:07] August 18. Did everybody get a chance to go through those?

[27:09] » And that was actually August. >> Yes.

[27:13] » Um All right. And uh then um is there a motion to approve the August 18 minutes?

[27:19] I'll move that we approve the August 18 minutes as amended. Did we amend them?

[27:23] » We didn't amend them. They're not a we revise.

[27:26] » Revised, >> but a amend amendment.

[27:28] » We did something tonight, it would be >> correct. And we had to do it next time,

[27:31] we'd have to amend what we did. So, >> or if we waited until tonight to point

[27:35] out that Tyler misspelled the chief's name, then we do an amendment here. So,

[27:41] » um I think then I also missed that because I know two Waylands and they're

[27:44] spelled that way and my mind was just typing. So, I missed it too. Sorry,

[27:48] Brian. Uh, and anyway, >> never saw it.

[27:51] » No, I know, but we're just we're just outed ourselves about it.

[27:55] » Um, anyway. All right. And I'll second uh Kathy's motion to approve those

[28:00] minutes. Uh, all those in favor? >> And that is unanimous.

[28:03] » All right. Great. Um, and so now we uh now we're just about at our 7 o'clock,

[28:09] aren't we? >> And there are no continuing items or

[28:12] items for review tonight. So, we are at our 7 o'clock.

[28:15] » Okay, great. 659. We're ahead of schedule a little bit. So, we um have

[28:20] our working waterfront proclamation and uh as y'all know, we wanted to give that

[28:25] some more time to be publicly posted um uh since the last meeting and on the

[28:32] 18th and so that's occurred. Did you get any and and it also allowed for folks to

[28:37] um submit any um information to you any response to that proclamation?

[28:41] » We did not. Okay. Okay. >> So, and it has been on the website now

[28:44] since August 18th or 19th. So, >> yeah,

[28:47] » it is up there >> like even the 17th. If our meeting was

[28:50] the 18th, it was like the 17th or the 16th.

[28:52] » Yeah. So, um but we have the working waterfront proclamation. I don't know if

[28:57] it benefit to read it for the record or it'll be posted in a multitude of places

[29:02] after this. >> Um I I think it I think it should be

[29:06] read. Would you like to read it or would you like

[29:07] » I can or do you want to read it, Madam Chair? Well, let's see if I have my

[29:10] glasses, Tyler, to read. >> Are we going to at some while you're

[29:14] doing that, are we at some point going to talk about how it's going to be um

[29:19] where it's going to be posted and how and stuff like that, or are we going to

[29:22] wait? Not tonight. >> Let's let's get through this and then

[29:27] yes, I think maybe we will get to that. All right. So, here's the proclamation.

[29:31] Um whereas Georgetown's identity, history, economy, and culture are deeply

[29:35] connected to the waters, shores, coes, islands, harbors, mud flats, warfs,

[29:41] boatyards, marinas, and marine businesses that have sustained

[29:45] generations of residents, families, and enterprises. And whereas Georgetown has

[29:50] long been home to a vibrant and diverse working waterfront that includes, among

[29:54] other activities and enterprises, lobstering, clamming, aquaculture,

[29:58] worming, commercial harvesting, boatyards, marinas, marine services, and

[30:03] supporting businesses. And whereas the select board recognizes that working

[30:08] waterfront activities are essential to Georgetown's local economy, maritime

[30:12] heritage, food systems, public access, and sense of place. And whereas

[30:18] Georgetown seeks to protect, support, promote, and advocate for a commercial

[30:22] marine base that remains successful, resilient, diverse, and in harmony with

[30:27] the broader community. And whereas the select board recognizes that residents,

[30:31] businesses, visitors, real estate professionals, and prospective property

[30:36] owners benefit from clear public notices that Georgetown is and intends to remain

[30:41] a working waterfront community. And whereas the select board further

[30:45] recognizes the importance of maintaining natural resources, waterways,

[30:49] infrastructure, and access that allow current and future commercial marine

[30:53] enterprises, residents, and visitors to engage with and benefit from

[30:57] Georgetown's working waterfront. And whereas this proclamation is intended as

[31:01] a public affirmation of community values and priorities, and does not create

[31:06] fines, penalties, enforcement provisions, or restrictions beyond those

[31:10] otherwise provided by applicable law. Now therefore, the Georgetown Select

[31:14] Board proclaims that the town of Georgetown is hereby declared a working

[31:18] waterfront community. Be it further proclaimed that Georgetown proudly and

[31:22] publicly affirms its intention to remain a welcoming water working waterfront

[31:27] community that supports the people, families, businesses, and marine

[31:31] enterprises that depend upon and contribute to the town's waterfront.

[31:36] Be it further proclaimed that the select board encourages public understanding of

[31:39] the vital role of the working waterfront and the conditions needed for it to

[31:43] thrive, including continued commitment to access, infrastructure, natural

[31:47] resources, and balanced community development. Be it further proclaimed

[31:51] that the town will endeavor to communicate this designation through

[31:54] appropriate public means, including the town website, outreach to Georgetown

[31:59] residents and businesses, the main association of realtors, and signage or

[32:03] other notices as determined by the select board. And then in witness

[32:07] whereof, the Georgetown Select Board adopts this proclamation on the date

[32:10] written above. So that's what is at issue. You've received no comments or

[32:16] response to that. Um, we have we do have members of the working waterfront, two

[32:21] members of the working waterfront work group. Um, why don't you all come on up?

[32:24] Pat Burns and John Jones. They've put a lot of work into this. Please, if you'd

[32:29] like.

[32:37] » Thank you for coming tonight. We appreciate and we know you were both

[32:41] here for the public hearing uh in the spring. Um, so, uh, what would you like

[32:47] to say, um, about this proclamation or this proposed proclamation? We'll start

[32:51] with you, Pat, and then John. >> I didn't anticipate having to say

[32:56] anything. >> You don't have to say anything

[32:58] » because I think you did a great job. I mean, the proclamation pretty much says

[33:01] it all. I will just say anecdotally that I've uh, presented this or discussed it,

[33:08] I would say, with the Brunswick clan, I should say. Yeah.

[33:15] kefish committee and got a real wide response. You know, they're going to

[33:19] actually look at doing it themselves. Everybody I've talked to in the aqua

[33:24] farming area as well as people in the main aquaculture association are very

[33:30] supportive and uh pushing us forward. >> Great. Okay. Great. Okay, John. And I

[33:36] know and John, we did get your letter and thank you very much. We didn't have

[33:39] a chance to uh acknowledge that, but we are acknowledging it. Thank you for your

[33:43] thoughtful letter to us about this proclamation.

[33:46] » Okay. My thoughts on it is um as you indicated, I provide it to the select

[33:51] board. My thoughts on it. First of all, I'm encouraging each of you to support

[33:58] it and vote positively for the proclamation.

[34:03] assuming that happens in my correspondence to each of you I had put

[34:08] going forward and um those were my thoughts I didn't share that with any of

[34:15] the other uh committee members uh we haven't met since the hearing

[34:20] » um but the first part is if if you approve the

[34:26] proclamation and you want to go forward with it as a

[34:31] um ordinance I indicated that I'm willing to stay on

[34:36] it and continue on with it. >> Thank you. And um then I I outlined some

[34:44] items that I thought were relevant that I think if we were to go forward trying

[34:50] to seek this as a ordinance, those items I think should be hopefully you guys

[34:57] have read it and consider it uh or would consider it. Um on that um the only

[35:04] thing I Well, let me let me just say this. You're seeing the same two people

[35:10] In my notice to you, you you'll notice that I had put that I thought that the

[35:15] committee should be expanded to at least two more individuals.

[35:20] » And you may remember, John, that it was originally there were three three

[35:23] additional people. I think what happened is as the group coalesed in the early

[35:28] stages, it was the same four or five of us. And so um but that's not

[35:34] » I think it makes perfect sense. There's a lot of stakeholders. There's a lot of

[35:38] initiatives we have in town that should be broadened to include upstate.

[35:42] » So you're that was my thought that >> you're seeing the same two people and

[35:46] this is not not for the other two. Um the other other two individuals

[35:52] say they have scheduling issues and other commitments that perhaps Pat and I

[35:57] don't have luckily. Um, but here here we are. And and I think that it would be

[36:04] better for the town to have more representation than just Pat and I. um

[36:11] uh as I put in there in my correspondence, I think we could get a

[36:16] little broader uh based communitywide um

[36:21] a little more of the residents and and and part of my thought in preparing this

[36:27] was from the draft uh ordinance hearing. Um, and obviously you guys were there.

[36:35] Um, and I don't think that the town folk were really against the idea of the um,

[36:43] working waterfront community designation. What they were more opposed

[36:48] to was it being an ordinance and it should have been proclamation which

[36:52] we're now going through hopefully. Um, so without belaboring us a whole lot, I

[37:00] think if we if if the town decides they want to go forward with it, I I think

[37:06] that we need to have better more people on the committee, better

[37:13] outreach by whoever's on that committee, reaching out to different people, uh,

[37:18] the lobster and the claimers themselves. I don't think we did a good job with

[37:22] that. and not a knock for the group, but I I just don't think we did a good job.

[37:26] Um the the issue that I put in here that we

[37:30] relied pretty much on one real estate agent um that the group sort of said,

[37:39] well, that person says it's a wonderful thing and we're going forward. All the

[37:43] all the real estate people were for it. And apparently they weren't because

[37:47] obviously at the hearing the one person that did speak up pretty much wound up

[37:51] muting everything that the committee was trying to say uh denouncing it and

[37:56] saying it it wasn't. Um I myself had spoken to staff at the um

[38:05] main um real estate association and um

[38:10] their position was you guys George you can do whatever you

[38:15] want but this is not a state mandate and real estate agents are only required to

[38:24] put forward to their buyer sellers what the state says you must tell and since

[38:30] this isn't one of those items basically their position was do what you want

[38:36] Georgetown but you're not going to mandate this on us you can urge us to it

[38:40] and work with us from that vein but it's not something that could be mandated

[38:45] » and it and it's just worth noting that going the route of the proclamation and

[38:49] having this designation right >> if you checked out Down East magazine's

[38:53] Facebook page over the weekend there was a great article

[38:56] » um by one of our Georgetown residents about how Georgetown and Fippsburg were

[39:00] quote more Maine than Maine largely because of the working waterfront

[39:04] community. >> Right.

[39:05] » Um so this might actually help folks drive up some sales. So that's a right

[39:10] incentive, but I digress. >> And and you know, I think part of the

[39:13] outreach that you're talking about is, you know, some signage and and committee

[39:18] um people talking about it. I think one of the things that we heard a lot was um

[39:23] enforcing existing access. And so, as we've said,

[39:28] it doesn't, you know, a one homeowner Kathy can Kathy can allow access on her

[39:33] property. Later on, if she sells and buys a different house in Georgetown,

[39:37] that next uh buyer does not have to allow access. The intention is to

[39:41] continue the access. That would be the goal in this um because there is uh as

[39:47] people have noted um both in public comment

[39:51] » whenever these meetings because we've had a couple offormational meetings as

[39:54] well before the ordinance >> um uh access is important because the

[40:00] there isn't a lot but that is entirely a residential decision

[40:04] » right and that that's also that that point I did put in in my correspondence

[40:09] for you that again I believe that the committee could have done a better job

[40:13] of distinguishing between where the town has formal town landing,

[40:19] » right? >> It's known. No, nobody's going to

[40:21] complain about people going. >> But if I were to allow someone to access

[40:28] my property to get to a waterway to do their or whatever it would be,

[40:33] » that's fine. But if I sell my property, >> right,

[40:36] » that goes away. And I don't believe that the committee did a good job of

[40:41] distinguishing that difference. >> Well, it only came up at the ordinance

[40:45] hearing that was not talked about at theformational meeting at the historical

[40:49] society because I think y'all would have addressed it. Marissa was there and

[40:52] she's talked about it since then about the tidelines and all of that.

[40:57] » I'm not disagreeing with you. All I'm saying is I think we could have done a

[41:00] better job of explaining that and making it very clear to people. And and the

[41:05] last point I'll make um is my my last point that was in by correspondent that

[41:13] I believe that if the town wants to go forward this as an ordinance,

[41:19] it's incumbent on the select board and your town attorney to tell us what's the

[41:26] difference between a not the difference what would be the benefit of an

[41:32] ordinance versus a proclamation the effect right so that if we're going to

[41:36] go forward with it and again I don't think that either the town nor the

[41:43] committee itself made a very good case for we we just said hey it's going to be

[41:49] an ordinance and we all were very supportive of right from the get-go but

[41:53] it at the the meeting you saw what happened it sort of broke down at the at

[41:58] the hearing >> and we figured it was better to go with

[42:01] a proclamation get something than nothing. So my point being is that if if

[42:07] ultimately the town wants to go forward as an ordinance, I really think it would

[42:11] be very beneficial if you want the committee to continue on

[42:16] as an ordinance and the town tell us, okay, what's going to be that

[42:20] difference? Why should we do it as an ordinance and not? Because that was one

[42:25] of the issues that came up and I think all of you guys struggled with it. We

[42:30] certainly struggled with it. I will say that um before Tyler and I can tell Pat

[42:34] wants to speak too. I can I think I can see it in his eyes. But I will say that

[42:38] um tonight is the proclamation. That's that's at issue. But secondly, um as

[42:43] you've heard us say before, we won't take undertake any major initiative in

[42:47] in town uh withoutformational meetings. We just can't because right

[42:53] because even when we did this, we still got surprised at the hearing about. So

[42:58] it just really it needs some leadup. not one one uh meeting but two three

[43:03] meetings for any major initiative whether that's this or STRs or right

[43:08] » uh anything that would have a major effect on our um governance

[43:12] » but what were you going to say I was really going to get back to the fact

[43:15] that tonight we get to really celebrate this awesome piece and I'd note that

[43:20] when this was started a long time ago many moons ago now um it was a workg

[43:24] group that was set up with a task that this is kind of the deliverable at the

[43:28] end >> so I think if the town were to move

[43:31] forward, we'd want to reconstitute a new committee with a new charge and I just

[43:35] say not to get into the weeds on ordinance or not.

[43:38] » The biggest question is what behavior are we trying to regulate in an

[43:42] ordinance? What are the teeth? >> Outside of that proclamation is exactly

[43:47] where we're at now. And I know that at the outset we actually were hoping

[43:51] Harpswell was in the process of adopting it working waterfront ordinance and they

[43:56] hit some roadblocks and ultimately it became a footnote in their comp plan

[44:00] that they'd be revisiting. >> So for what that's worth but this is a

[44:05] really exciting evening. So, >> okay. So,

[44:09] » I think one of the ancillaries that I think you might be getting at is um

[44:16] what we hope is that this spawns something like for example

[44:20] there are a lot of historic uh leans they're not leans exactly but

[44:25] passages across land. What I would like to see is you can't

[44:30] regulate it. it uh it can't be legislated.

[44:35] But what we can do is use anformational technique. And that is anybody who is

[44:41] going to sell their property who has a a passage and has been historically been

[44:46] there. that be we would hope we would hope that they would mention that in the

[44:53] closing that I have allowed clamming whatever it happens to be worming knows

[44:59] what it's going to be to uh wormers to pass over my land and I would very much

[45:04] appreciate that you would maintain that would set up the handshake the next

[45:08] handshake agreement with the new owner and the clamor the wormer whoever that

[45:14] may be but not lose historic passage that we have had for decades

[45:21] » in some cases centuries >> and I know one in particular.

[45:26] » Okay. Thank you, Pat. >> All right. Do you all have any

[45:30] questions? >> I think it's I think it's eloquently

[45:34] stated and um really is something to celebrate.

[45:38] » Yes. >> No question. Very proud of that. Thank

[45:40] you for all your work. >> Yes, absolutely. All right. With that,

[45:43] I'll entertain a motion. Did you have something else, Jan?

[45:47] » No, I was moving in my direction, huh? Okay.

[45:50] » I move that we adopt the um proclamation of the Georgetown Select Board declaring

[45:55] Georgetown a working water community. >> I will second. I will third it. Okay.

[46:00] All those in favor. It's unanimous. >> Unanimous.

[46:04] » Okay. >> And so we're going to now declare a

[46:06] brief five minute or less recess. Sign the proclamation while we have folks

[46:10] here because we have executive sessions tonight. Yeah. wanted to get a picture

[46:14] and then we'll be back at the select board meeting very quickly.

[46:17] » Yeah, three minutes probably going to pause the recording here.

[46:22] » Here is >> and then we'll on reports

[46:28] and we're back at 7:20. >> Okay, so now we are no longer ahead of

[46:33] schedule. We are a little bit behind. Um, and we would uh love to have Mike

[46:37] Mcloid, our EMA director, and uh Chief Whan join us um to talk about the

[46:43] memorandum of understanding with the Sagodok County EMA uh team. And so we've

[46:50] got Mike here. >> I'll begin, Brian.

[46:52] » Yes. >> So, go ahead.

[46:54] » Phil Bill Davis, the SAG EMA director who's very aggressive, very very much

[46:59] building out his department, right? >> Yes. um send a memorandum of agreement

[47:03] which essentially I think for my reading of it, have you had a chance to read it?

[47:07] » Yes. >> Everyone. Yeah.

[47:09] » Okay. Um it sort of formalizes a lot of what's in place

[47:13] » but maybe expands the control of the county a little bit more in a certain

[47:17] sense. It centralizes the administration operations planning and training for

[47:23] emergency management. Um, in particular from my standpoint, it um, you know, we

[47:29] have an emergency management plan, but it's not, it hasn't been updated in a

[47:32] while, and it probably looks different than Witches and looks different than

[47:35] Dresen's. >> Um, I think Phil's image is to

[47:40] essentially be able to have the town's plans be able to roll up into the

[47:44] county's plans so that I mean, the core aspect of this is sharing resources,

[47:49] right? >> Yes. Um, so if something bad happens,

[47:52] um, and we need resources for, uh, a bad chemical spill or something that we

[47:58] respond the same way that Woolwitch responds, the Arasic response. So that's

[48:05] my understanding of it and I'm in support of it.

[48:08] » Okay. >> Um, I think it's favorable for the town.

[48:12] Um, Brian and I have discussed it a little bit. Brian, you want to take it

[48:15] from there? >> Thanks, Mike.

[48:17] » Uh, yeah, thanks, Mike. the I would agree with exactly what Mike said. It's

[48:21] uh going to kind of centralize some certain things. Um it's going to take

[48:26] some of the uh necessary but very timeconuming things off of our plate

[48:32] here in Georgetown and again kind of make it more uniform across the county I

[48:36] feel like and um you know really give us uh an added boost to give us access to

[48:42] resources and options and um try to get a bit more of everybody on the same page

[48:47] reading out the same playbook which I think I'm all for. So, um, yeah, I think

[48:52] it's a I think it's going to be worthwhile and, uh, it's an advantage to

[48:56] us as a community to, uh, to go into this agreement with them.

[49:02] » Okay. Do we have any questions for Mike or or Brian? Go ahead.

[49:08] » I had just one uh, right now, which is, do we know what the other towns are

[49:12] doing? Because we can come into alignment with Sagpar County, but it

[49:16] would be nice to know if the others are planning to do that also. That's that's

[49:19] a good question because during the emergency management meeting sometimes

[49:22] the attendance isn't that strong. So I'm not sure how how well Phil is rallying

[49:27] that everyone. Um we might be the first in the pool. I know Bath was at odds

[49:32] with it a tiny bit um maybe on the particulars of the language. I haven't

[49:36] read it very closely or with that much of an understanding of

[49:41] obligations and that kind of document. So someone with that understanding

[49:45] should probably be reading it. Um, but you know, I don't know that Woolwitch is

[49:49] I I did speak with the EMA from the emergency management director from

[49:53] Woolwitch. Um, he was going to go through the same process as I understand

[49:58] it. I don't know how strongly he feels plus or minus on it.

[50:03] » And Ryan, do you have any concerns about any of the language and how it um binds

[50:09] the town or gives up some control to uh SAG?

[50:15] » No, I don't. Um, I did read it through a couple times. Um, and I didn't really

[50:21] find any spots where I felt like, uh, are we we're giving up any kind of

[50:27] real control. I mean, the the things that they were going to take over, the

[50:31] county's responsibilities are things that, um, if we need to get to that

[50:36] point with a major incident uh, or an event that uh, we would be asking for

[50:42] their assistance anyway. So it it's like, yeah, okay, of course. Yeah, you

[50:47] want to take on that, that'd be great because I don't have time for that right

[50:50] now, >> right? And not that giving up I don't

[50:53] want to uh signal that giving up control is a bad thing. Sometimes that's a good

[50:57] thing because it systematizes and it, you know, it it it has a clear path for

[51:02] what's going to happen. This is the process that's going to occur if there's

[51:05] a chemical spill. We know it because we have this MOA M. Yeah.

[51:11] » Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. And I just note that one of the concerns that uh Mike

[51:15] and I talked about a little bit was around the personnel management

[51:18] language, but when you dive in further um you talk about the county agrees to

[51:22] provide senside services, etc. They list A throughF, one of them's personnel

[51:27] management, right? >> That to me is a concern of giving up

[51:29] control. But when you get to the section personnel funding, it's very clear that

[51:33] we retain local control and that the town wouldn't get caught up in costs

[51:38] without blessing them. >> I went through the same pattern. Yeah.

[51:42] » On the first read of it, I was like, I'm not gonna have Phil tell me what to do.

[51:45] But then, um, >> you know, the other paragraphs were

[51:48] clearly were within our control. >> Yeah,

[51:50] » absolutely. That that's how I read it. And

[51:53] » I do think that tonight we weren't looking to adopt, but start the

[51:56] conversation. >> Phil was eager

[51:59] » to come down tonight, but I figured let's have a local control conversation

[52:03] first, and if we end up in the next couple of days having questions we want

[52:08] to tweak, we can get them to him. >> Okay. um and bring him back for a

[52:11] meeting to >> Does he have a a potential deadline for

[52:14] when he'd like or do we know? >> You know, there's no deadline. You know,

[52:18] I think a lot of it could be done kind of asynchronously with Bill. We know he

[52:22] likes to pitch things and he's great at it. Um but

[52:25] » I you know, if you look at the document and have some things that you want to

[52:29] » you want to address red line, I think he could probably get a lot of it done.

[52:33] » Yeah. >> Um I don't know that there's that much

[52:36] more for him to explain. Brian could differ with me on that.

[52:40] » Yeah, I >> um I think it's pretty I think

[52:44] » pretty reasonable really for both parties.

[52:49] » I think it's very reasonable. I think that um I think Phil's nice and

[52:53] aggressive and is is building out a capacity,

[52:56] » right? >> And he's seeing is that this is a means

[52:58] to do that. And um I think it's in our best interest. I don't think there's a

[53:03] necessarily a price tag associated with right now. In fact, I think it's kind of

[53:06] in that game for us. >> Yeah. And on that not I was just going

[53:09] to say on the budget advisory committee on the SAG county side when I was

[53:13] sitting there looking reviewing the budget for FY27

[53:16] um you know that he has a pretty robust proposed budget. He had a pretty robust

[53:21] proposed budget maybe with this in mind. So it is something we can take a look

[53:26] at. I misunderstood that I thought we were going to be adopting it based on

[53:29] that. >> We we definitely could. I mean I agree

[53:32] that the >> I think Yeah. I mean, let's give it if

[53:35] if we if let's sit with it a little bit, make sure we are all comfortable with

[53:39] that language and then look to um take action on the 22nd. Is that something

[53:44] that y'all are comfortable with, Kathy and Katie? Okay.

[53:48] » But no one I think what Brian and Mike, you should be hearing from us is we're

[53:52] not we're in support of this. Great. >> We just uh want to review the Nothing

[53:57] about the language jumped out at me. I reviewed the personnel thing. I also was

[54:00] concerned about because I didn't want SAG telling our Georgetown EMA Yeah. uh

[54:04] director um what to do because we're you know we are the bridge community we are

[54:09] and so there's going to be times where we may different our approach and that's

[54:12] okay too. >> Absolutely.

[54:14] » And I do think we need to up update our and and maybe change if that's what it

[54:18] is our emergency operations plan. It's got it's got Justin as you know

[54:24] » it was pre-built. This is this is one of the there's it's not urgent, but that's

[54:30] » for me why to do this because my plan gets rolled up into everybody else's.

[54:34] » Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> Or at least it's going to get rolled up

[54:37] into SAG SAG counties. >> Nobody else joins us. So,

[54:40] » and Phil writes it, >> right?

[54:42] » Good. >> Right. I'm curious to know which other

[54:45] municipalities sign on. >> Yeah. I I don't know that anyone signed

[54:49] on yet. >> Okay. Yeah,

[54:51] » we can we can check. >> Yeah. I mean again at the budget at the

[54:54] BAC meetings you know we were all talking about his budget right because

[54:58] you got Woolitch there and you got West Bath and so you know I would imagine

[55:02] Topsome there's a lot of discussion about that budget so I think this you

[55:06] know I think we probably will see other communities join

[55:10] » because we have you know we're being assessed for that work already.

[55:14] » I'm going to um >> approve it. We we could parse the fine

[55:19] print and make sure there's something that's so we'll we'll come back. You

[55:22] don't need to you don't need to be in person on the 22nd, but if you want to

[55:26] join us on the 2, but you can be back on the 22nd.

[55:29] » Thank you, Mike. Thanks. >> Thanks, Mike. Thanks, Brian.

[55:31] » Thanks. >> All right.

[55:35] And then uh moving back down. Let's see. I think we're going to now jump down to

[55:41] continuing items. >> Uh and we actually have no continuing

[55:44] items and nothing for review. >> Yes. Um, there was a slew of

[55:48] correspondence that was provided. Um, of particular note, I wasn't finding

[55:52] funding opportunities in Senator King's list that really applied to Georgetown,

[55:56] but I'm going to continue to send those along because we may know somebody in

[56:00] town that could benefit from one of those programs, too. So,

[56:03] » and we do want to give him a shout out for his post that he shared with us. And

[56:07] so, do you want to tell everyone since you shared it with us? Um, Senator King

[56:11] actually was in town this past weekend and saw the sign about no fire permits

[56:16] until real rain and he thought that was an example of good government in action

[56:21] being very clear and direct and it got thousands of likes which was pretty cool

[56:25] for Georgetown to get those props. Kudos Brian and the department.

[56:29] » Yeah. And he said what his post said something like um this is what uh a town

[56:35] this is common sense from a town not the fancy one Georgetown Maine. So that was

[56:39] great. Yeah, they were at Oysters. He and Mary Herman were at Oysters that

[56:42] weekend. >> That's awesome.

[56:43] » And then the Post happened. So, yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um listening to Michelle and

[56:49] Mark actually play. So, that was fun. All right. Um and so, yeah. Anything

[56:53] else that we have questions about? >> I thought the flock camera letter is

[56:57] something that >> we do need to talk about. So, we

[56:59] definitely want to talk about that. Um so, let's start start off with that.

[57:03] » Uh it prompted me to go to that website that shows you where all of the

[57:08] surveillance cameras are. I think 70% of them are actually branded as a flat

[57:12] camera. Um, there aren't any in Georgetown, there aren't any in Arasic.

[57:16] There's four in Witch. >> So, there's a cluster in Woolwatch that

[57:21] we all pass every time we go through the intersection near Derry.

[57:26] » Do they have their own police department in Witch?

[57:28] » Because we don't have law enforcement down. I mean, right,

[57:31] » that sounds like we're the wild west, but we we don't. So,

[57:34] » I don't think Woolish has a >> They don't

[57:36] » police department. I think they rely on s I'd be curious to see who put those

[57:40] cameras in up and which too. Was it state police? Was it DOT? Or was it

[57:43] » Sag information on the website about who or when they were put up, but

[57:48] » I have a Sagot Hawk manager meeting on Thursday. I can definitely ask Kim up in

[57:53] Woolwitch for a little more details. >> Right. Yeah. Um I listened to a podcast

[57:59] about them and got a little bit more information. I don't feel like I have

[58:04] everything I need. Thank you for providing the Auburn.

[58:09] » Yeah, that was take on it. Yeah. >> Yeah, there are quite a few

[58:15] municipalities that are banning them outright

[58:18] » until and that's how I feel. I think that they

[58:21] » we don't need to mess with that until we know what how what and how they're being

[58:25] used. >> It's kind of like how AI started.

[58:28] » Remember how AI started and everybody was like, "What is this?"

[58:31] » Yeah. >> And now and now it's here. every day,

[58:34] » but it at least you know then you were allowed some time,

[58:39] » right? >> So that's essentially what you're asking

[58:41] for. Let's have some time. >> Yeah.

[58:44] » And the good news is Mandy asking for an ordinance. I don't anticipate the select

[58:49] board calling a special town meeting at this stage for that. So we do have time

[58:53] ahead of town meeting next year to get more info, see what's going on in the

[58:57] region, find out how did the language in Auburn pass, did it not? And I'd say of

[59:02] that Auburn language, um, given the fact they have their own

[59:07] law enforcement in town, >> right,

[59:09] » a lot of that makes sense if that's a community value that Auburn voters want

[59:14] to pass. >> Whereas in Georgetown, we don't have law

[59:18] enforcement directly. So, more food for thought. And I'm going to

[59:23] continue myself diving in. It was actually kind of fun. Kathy had asked a

[59:28] couple of questions that I thought I knew the answer to based on an article

[59:31] and within an hour I realized, wow, my answer was bad and I got on the phone

[59:35] and corrected that. But we want to make sure that we're just

[59:40] crossing tees and dotting eyes >> and and this is the kind of thing that

[59:42] we just were talking about. you know, if we if we decided to move in a direction,

[59:47] you know, to take a stand on this one way or the other, we we would be having

[59:51] once again someformational meetings to gauge the community and see what the

[59:55] community thinks about this and and what are our values. I mean, we're very, you

[59:59] know, we're much smaller community than Auburn

[1:00:02] » and this is what they decided, which ultimately was to ban them, right? Is

[1:00:08] there a kind of response the select board would like me to get back to Mandy

[1:00:12] that we're going to continue to look at current events and what's going on or

[1:00:18] » Well, first we appreciate her bringing it, you know, forward.

[1:00:21] » Yeah. >> Um and taking the time as a very

[1:00:23] thoughtful letter. Um and uh what else we want to say?

[1:00:29] » We'll be gathering information. >> Yeah. Little R&D time.

[1:00:33] » Absolutely. >> I think you've already responded to her

[1:00:35] a little bit. you've acknowledged. >> I I agree. I think I think it's an

[1:00:40] interesting discussion. I think it's bigger than AI. Well, Flock is it's

[1:00:44] bigger than Flock. It's AI powered surveillance meth

[1:00:49] which she mentions, but it's also where does Constitution right to freedom

[1:00:54] and privacy begin and end? >> Yeah. I mean, and people are very

[1:00:58] specific about, you know, some people don't want their pictures on Facebook or

[1:01:02] they don't want them to be on social media and they may not know this is

[1:01:05] happening. And then others are like, well, there are and and there are

[1:01:08] sometimes legitimate law enforcement reasons to have cameras.

[1:01:11] » Yeah. Well, you know, >> Director Robin Hood probably has lots of

[1:01:14] them already because they caring for people's property and we have about 50%

[1:01:19] of our housing closes up for some period of time in the winter,

[1:01:23] » right? Yeah. So, I bet a lot of those people have

[1:01:25] » the flat cameras don't do faces. >> It's just

[1:01:29] » just the license plates and any kind of bumper sticker, any sort of on the

[1:01:35] vehicle. >> Yeah.

[1:01:38] » Scans that and makes note of it somehow. >> Yeah.

[1:01:43] » With some of these security cameras because we have them all over my

[1:01:45] building. >> Yeah.

[1:01:47] » But we're going to continue to dive in and Yeah.

[1:01:50] » get some community feedback. >> Okay. Great.

[1:01:53] Um, all right. Thank you. The only other thing that I just flag in the main

[1:01:57] office of community affairs newsletter, they do talk about a working waterfront

[1:02:01] conference in Bar Harbor in November. Yes.

[1:02:04] » Um, I'm working to get some more details on that. I did dive in a little bit

[1:02:08] more. >> Um, there's an early bird registration

[1:02:10] fee that cuts off this week. So, I don't think we're going to hit that. It's only

[1:02:14] a $25 difference, but I'd encourage select board members. I'll forward that

[1:02:19] email directly so you can click the links. Yeah.

[1:02:22] » Um, just so dive in and see, but as we're becoming a working waterfront

[1:02:27] community, that may be something we want to have a select board member or

[1:02:31] somebody from the town or the committee represent the town for.

[1:02:34] » Yeah. >> And hotel rooms in Bar Harbor because

[1:02:36] it's a two-day event. >> Right now, we're about 165 a night. So,

[1:02:40] there's >> a way it could be doable.

[1:02:42] » Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Um, I I might be interested in going and I um would I

[1:02:48] mean we'll have to see sort of if I could work that out and I would have I

[1:02:51] think >> potentially a place to stay that

[1:02:54] wouldn't cost the town. >> Even better.

[1:02:56] » Yeah. So, but that doesn't preclude anyone else from going and I have things

[1:03:01] I would otherwise have to also square away before I could be away overnight.

[1:03:07] » So, I'm thinking let's think on it. I'll circulate some more details and maybe on

[1:03:11] the 22nd we can Yeah. >> see if we want to designate someone.

[1:03:14] » Yes, for sure. >> Yeah.

[1:03:15] » Um Yeah. So, you're going to send us the email with the links. Thank you.

[1:03:20] » Okay. Thanks. All right. And um now we are ready for

[1:03:25] our committee updates. Uh would you like to go Katie?

[1:03:29] » Sure please. Thank you. >> Um

[1:03:34] August 24th, was a while ago was a planning board

[1:03:39] morning meeting. Um they discussed um the YouTube channel posting and

[1:03:45] recording their meet meetings and um they all thought it was a good idea. Um

[1:03:51] four applications were updated. There's solar sign building and demo and

[1:03:55] wireless and the new forms were approved.

[1:03:58] um the CEO had input on those forms that was taken into account. Um part-time

[1:04:05] CEO, he the forms were asking more of him. So, they wanted to be mindful about

[1:04:10] adding work for him on any of those new applications. Um they expect every

[1:04:16] applicant to fill their forms completely and it shouldn't be a burden to the CEO

[1:04:21] to chase down applicants for missing information. It slows down the board.

[1:04:26] Um, so the hope is that applications come to the meetings complete.

[1:04:31] » Is that clear on the application that you've seen?

[1:04:34] » Um, is that made clear? >> It's oversightes. It's missing

[1:04:37] information. They they worked really hard to make the application's very

[1:04:41] clear, but they need to be completed. Yeah.

[1:04:44] » Um, it's more user error. >> Yeah. Okay. That's what I was very

[1:04:48] clear. I assume it is. >> Oh, there. Yeah, they're great. Um,

[1:04:54] so what else? There was a discussion about whether the

[1:04:59] CEO has a job description and he does. >> Um, a board member had created a lengthy

[1:05:04] list of items to take a look at. Um, just kind of gleaning from previous

[1:05:09] meetings and minutes and the board went through them and um, addressed each item

[1:05:17] and no applications were processed at that meeting. The next evening there was

[1:05:21] a um BOA special meeting to approve the extension of the variance for 142 Old

[1:05:28] Schoolhouse Road and the new deadline is now mid November.

[1:05:32] » September 2nd there was a planning board meeting. Four applications were approved

[1:05:37] including a wireless tower application. >> Um it's pending some documentation and

[1:05:42] application edits. Um, they also had just received

[1:05:46] notification on LD273, which is the housing development

[1:05:51] allowance, and um, they talked about its impacts on Georgetown.

[1:05:56] » Um, and we're going to go over that later,

[1:05:58] so maybe I'll breeze by that. Um, and then on the 8th, they had another

[1:06:05] planning board meeting where they finalized the comments on that that

[1:06:10] notification for LD 2173 where they're requesting

[1:06:15] um, public comment. Um, and we'll go more into that. The another

[1:06:23] thing they spoke to today was um, the designated growth areas in town. Um,

[1:06:28] when a town adopts a comprehensive plan, the growth areas are mandatory unless

[1:06:33] they're exempt for natural resources. Um, and designating the growth areas is

[1:06:39] required. So, um, it allows the state to get grants or the

[1:06:46] town to get grants. Um, we have two designated growth areas in Georgetown.

[1:06:52] And this new um I'm pretty sure it's this new law also changes things around

[1:06:59] for designated growth areas increasing density, housing density. So they just

[1:07:04] wanted to talk through that. Um and then last night was the fire department

[1:07:09] meeting and ambulance one and eventually ambulance 2 are getting new lock

[1:07:13] mechanisms so that the doors can unlock and lock with a key fob.

[1:07:17] » Oh, good. Okay. >> High-tech. And then September 21st, the

[1:07:21] county is activating their new um communication towers. Um good,

[1:07:26] » which is great. It's dividing the county into north and south. And all of their

[1:07:30] radios and pagers will get reprogrammed the week prior to that activation.

[1:07:36] » And then they have a training on the 22nd. And then they have their spaghetti

[1:07:40] supper and open house on the 3rd and 4th. And there's coasters on the doors

[1:07:43] » of y. So, those are coming right up. >> And I think that's all I have. Okay,

[1:07:50] brilliant. >> Yeah, thank you.

[1:07:52] » Kathy. >> Well, um I just attended the Georgetown

[1:07:56] School Committee meeting on August 19th. The coming school year is going to be a

[1:08:01] contract negotiation year and the school board will be our our school committee

[1:08:07] will be representing the town for negotiation.

[1:08:11] The new interim or principal was introduced at that meeting. at Swain

[1:08:15] Door who will be filling in for Principal Miller until her maternity

[1:08:19] leave ends uh which I believe is in the late fall. He has previously been at the

[1:08:24] Georgetown School. I think you brought that up earlier. Yeah. Um I did attend

[1:08:28] the August 24th planning board meeting September 2nd and Katie covered them

[1:08:33] really well so I'm not going to say anything.

[1:08:36] » Shelfish Conservation Commission uh committee meeting was September 3rd. Um

[1:08:41] and they discussed monthly meeting format, clarified it. Um they're kind of

[1:08:47] jumping off to a new way of trying to be um a little bit more structured or a

[1:08:53] little bit structured. Marissa Mcahan also offered to administer Zoom for the

[1:08:58] hybrid sections and she was going to be in touch with you about that.

[1:09:01] » Perfect. Yeah, that's great. uh a a research scientist named Kate Clever who

[1:09:05] is working on a shellfish restoration pro project in the basin area in

[1:09:10] Fifsburg joined the meeting to discuss her project and ask if the shellfish

[1:09:15] conservation committee would support a similar pilot restoration project in

[1:09:20] Georgetown and the shelf fish committee is interested um she has some funding

[1:09:26] she'll be looking for more funding um and she'll coming over here uh the

[1:09:31] shellfish committee had ordered seed clam seed and it's arriving in October

[1:09:36] and they're going to uh get it ready for planting. I'm not sure that's the

[1:09:42] technical term, but they're going to put it down

[1:09:44] » in the fall. >> Yeah, the August water quality sampling

[1:09:48] at Saget Hawk Bay was good. The water quality was good. They found no

[1:09:52] problems. A few sampling t sites in Sag Bay had tested positive for caulifform

[1:09:58] » in the spring. So, this is very good news.

[1:10:02] Uh, and conservation commission meets next week, but I just wanted to remind

[1:10:06] everyone that coastal cleanup is this Saturday. Um, bring in your um help help

[1:10:12] clean up the the uh coastlines, the beaches, and marshes if you can. And

[1:10:17] bring your uh stuff in. There's there's collection material, bags, and things in

[1:10:23] a bin outside the town office. And we'll see you there.

[1:10:27] » What time? >> Oh, I think we start at 9:00.

[1:10:29] » 9:00. I think it's 9 to 12. We're setting up at the

[1:10:32] » And there there'll be a table at the transfer station, right?

[1:10:34] » Yes. Yes. Okay. >> Come on down. It's fun. I mean, it's fun

[1:10:37] to just be there. We we um love seeing people who bring stuff in. We love

[1:10:42] Crazy. >> Yeah. We love seeing people who don't

[1:10:44] bring stuff in, but they just want to come over and talk about trash they have

[1:10:47] found. So, it's a good time. >> Yeah.

[1:10:49] » And it's it's a good thing. The whole >> There's an International Coastal Cleanup

[1:10:53] during the month of September. So, we're just part of a much bigger thing.

[1:10:57] » So, thank you. >> All right. Thank you. Um, all right. And

[1:11:02] so, uh, let's see. We'll start, um, I'll start backwards a little bit. The, uh,

[1:11:10] keeping along with the schedule. So, September 12 is Coastal Cleanup.

[1:11:13] September, uh, 19 is Art in the Park, uh, show, um, sponsored by Reed, uh,

[1:11:19] Friends of Reed. And, um, that is in conjunction um, as y'all know, with the,

[1:11:25] uh, fall frolic that the rec committee does. So I believe the art show is 10 to

[1:11:29] 2 10 to 1 and um and uh fall frolic is 11:30 to 1:30. So um there's both are

[1:11:37] going to have music. Both are going to have food. It's free to Georgetown

[1:11:41] residents and I assume they'll still work out the ticket thing uh with y'all.

[1:11:45] So just be aware that if you have a park pass, use that please. Otherwise, if you

[1:11:50] need a ticket to get in, see the town office. Is that or no? No, we're not.

[1:11:55] » I have not been told that yet. >> No. So don't. Okay,

[1:11:57] » strike that. Do not see the town office, >> but they're meeting.

[1:12:01] » They're meeting tomorrow. >> So, I bet I'll have details soon.

[1:12:04] » Yes. So, um I to be amended that comment. Um but in any event, those are

[1:12:09] the big uh those are coming up the following weekend after coastal cleanup

[1:12:13] and I'm glad they no longer clash with each other. Um, and so yes, Wreck is

[1:12:17] continuing to work on uh that and presumably um looking towards I hope

[1:12:23] working collaborating with uh the GCC on a Halloween gig, but um I'll find that

[1:12:28] out at tomorrow's meeting. And um we've already heard from the working

[1:12:32] waterfront group. So um they are on a pause and except for the outreach that

[1:12:37] they would like to do. Um the uh you've already covered some of

[1:12:43] the other committees that we a few of us may have over overlapped with each

[1:12:47] other. So I'm going to skip over those. Um the harbor committee met in um gosh

[1:12:56] early at end of end of August. And so, uh, they talked, uh, quite a lot about

[1:13:00] the, um, mapping that they're doing, which is a very, um, fascinating project

[1:13:05] that, uh, uh, Woody and Frank and, uh, Mike Fina are doing with the, um, uh,

[1:13:13] uh, with the, um, the moorings. Yes. Um, so, um, that's that's very interesting

[1:13:19] and that work continues and to learn about what they're doing is is helpful.

[1:13:24] Um, did you want to say anything about that because I know you've talked to

[1:13:26] Woody some more about that. I not at this statement.

[1:13:29] » Okay. All right. And um so that's Harbor Committee. Then of course uh we we are

[1:13:35] kicking off our evaluations of town employees this week. Um the uh and so

[1:13:41] those will uh occur on a rolling basis as you know. And so um that work uh

[1:13:47] that's under the personnel committee which we all three although I'm the

[1:13:51] point person we're all three doing that um as much as we can together. And then

[1:13:56] the uh personnel work group will be getting together. We're going to need to

[1:13:59] use as I think we I've talked with you from time to time both for evaluations

[1:14:04] which you already know but we will always ask you before we book it

[1:14:08] » um an appointment to use the conference room because it's a busy place. Um, so,

[1:14:13] but the working waterfront um group, excuse me, the uh the evaluations we'll

[1:14:20] need um to continue booking and I know we're going to talk about that more some

[1:14:24] tonight, but also the um personnel policy work group will be starting its

[1:14:29] meetings and so we'll ask you when the conference room is available and try to

[1:14:33] work around um being mindful I know that y'all are working at the same time. So,

[1:14:38] um and I think that's it for my committees. I do believe I'm forgetting

[1:14:42] something, but I I know we're anxious to get moving on. So, um, their minutes are

[1:14:46] are presumably on online. >> Okay, go ahead, Tyler. What's with the

[1:14:52] next agenda item? >> So, I will be very quick with my town

[1:14:55] administrator update. I just wanted to flag that tomorrow morning, uh, we'll

[1:14:59] have a special select board meeting that'll be executive session, um, to

[1:15:02] tackle some items. The September 10th, I'll be at a SAG at a hawk manager

[1:15:08] meeting at 10:00 am. It's in Fippsburg. I'm going to try to attend that in

[1:15:12] person. I may have to zoom it just with the way this week has been. Um on the

[1:15:16] 15th of September, the Nature Conservancy is potentially holding an

[1:15:20] open house for their pavilion at Ledgemir, but they wanted me to check in

[1:15:24] with the select board and see. Can't promise that if the date doesn't work,

[1:15:28] they can't move forward, but wanted to check in with us first. Um it'd be from

[1:15:33] 3:30 to 5, so it's the middle of the day.

[1:15:35] » They'd want us to attend. uh there make sure at least we feel invited. So the

[1:15:40] town office select board >> September 15 which is next week and

[1:15:43] because it's so close I feel like the date could still shift but that was the

[1:15:47] last date that I'd heard. So for what that's worth on the 17th the select

[1:15:52] board will be taking a trip to Mahan and I'm excited for everyone that will be

[1:15:56] attending that. Um on the 22nd I just want to flag that we will likely have an

[1:16:01] update on new voting machines. Um, Angie is going to be working on some of that.

[1:16:06] State of Maine is buying new voting machines. There's a big contract piece

[1:16:10] to that. Um, at this stage, we don't believe there's going to be a town cost,

[1:16:14] but if there is, we want to make sure that's upfront to us, but Division of

[1:16:18] Elections is moving that way. So, for what that's worth. Um, today, uh, 26

[1:16:24] properties went to lean. Um, Angie on her way north to her conference, um,

[1:16:30] stopped at the registry of deeds to do that. So, thank you, Angie. We'll keep

[1:16:33] folks posted on as those trickle off or eventually could move towards

[1:16:37] foreclosure. Um still underway on reviewing property cards from the

[1:16:42] assessor. Um that is a big focus that we have been working on in the town office

[1:16:47] to be ready once splits are here. So in the month of October or early November

[1:16:52] we can commit taxes because for the last few years we've been trying to tack

[1:16:56] towards October and I'm still hopeful but some leg work that we're finishing

[1:17:00] up on that front. I talked about the working waterfront convention. I wanted

[1:17:05] to flag that Buster reached out today from the Shellfish Committee. They will

[1:17:09] be having a special meeting on September 24th at 6 p.m. and he said he would be

[1:17:14] in touch with you, Kathy, but just for what that's worth, they're bringing in a

[1:17:18] scientist to to come. So, >> okay.

[1:17:21] » I don't have all the details, but it should be interesting. Um

[1:17:24] » that's at 6, Tyler. >> Yeah, on the 24th.

[1:17:27] » Okay. Um, and then I wanted just to flag that um I'm hoping in the next by the

[1:17:32] next meeting, possibly the first one in October, just depending on timeline, to

[1:17:36] have a draft insert for tax bills for us because that's another piece of that

[1:17:41] commitment process. That does mean I'd ask folks that are working with the

[1:17:46] solid waste committee um to potentially ask them to in the month of October

[1:17:54] talk about the holiday schedule. I know that on the one hand they prefer to do

[1:18:00] that later in the season, but I can say residents really find that insert of

[1:18:06] relevant dates very helpful when a lot of folks have it on their fridge. Um,

[1:18:10] town report is not quite done yet, but we're working on chucking through the

[1:18:14] audit to pull out relevant documents that end up in there. I did want to ask

[1:18:18] the board, um, some years the town has dedicated the town report. I'd like us

[1:18:24] to move forward and dedicate that in memory of Bramwin given that that was

[1:18:28] the last year that she would have been a part of.

[1:18:30] » Um, is that an okay move forward? >> Sure.

[1:18:33] » Do you need a letter or something that will go with it or you going to write

[1:18:37] something? >> I'll I'll get something written up. Um,

[1:18:39] but she'll be right on the first page in there and we've got a good picture of

[1:18:43] her from town meeting that I think will be exciting to share. Um, just on the

[1:18:48] assessing front, I just wanted to flag for folks, we had one property that the

[1:18:52] town has been dinged for, so to speak, from Main Revenue Services regarding um,

[1:18:57] exemptions. The property had previously been owned by individuals and had moved

[1:19:02] into an LLC and the town had failed to pull off those two exemptions. So,

[1:19:07] there's minor costs associated with that. Um, and lastly, when it comes to,

[1:19:13] and I, and I mean really minor, it's less than a thousand dollars, and it's

[1:19:16] going to come right out of the aotment that main revenue gives us anyway. So,

[1:19:21] for what that's worth, um, we did receive the preliminary valuation as

[1:19:25] we're looking towards next year, uh, 2027. The state thinks the town of

[1:19:30] Georgetown will be valued, if you added up, all property, real estate, etc. at 1

[1:19:36] billion 36,150,000. In 2026, it was 1 bill11,300,000

[1:19:44] 942 million the year before. But it's worth noting the taxable valuation isn't

[1:19:49] that high number. Um last year we had a valuation of around 1 billion 11 million

[1:19:55] and change. Our taxable valuation was 918 million. The difference being

[1:20:00] exemptions and tax programs. So all kinds of assessing stuff coming. I

[1:20:05] realized I've hit way too many topics, but don't hesitate to reach out if you

[1:20:09] have any questions along those fronts. So, and I can answer them now, too, if

[1:20:13] need be. But I just said a lot. >> Thank you.

[1:20:16] » My voice hurts. >> You need some more water. I have water.

[1:20:19] Anyone need it? Um, all right. Uh, and now any questions for Tyler?

[1:20:26] » Okay, we're ready for Chief Wayland. >> All right. Thanks, guys. Um, so, uh,

[1:20:33] like, uh, Katie just said, I got a couple things, um, regarding vehicles.

[1:20:37] Our ambulances are getting the locks upgraded to meet our new DA

[1:20:40] requirements. Uh, ambulance ones is in now, should be back by the end of the

[1:20:45] week, and, uh, ambulance 2 will be in early October, it looks like, um, to get

[1:20:50] that same work done. Um, looking forward to that. Uh, next in after that is tank

[1:20:56] two. has got an air leak somewhere in one of the air actuators for the dump

[1:21:00] shoots, but uh we'll get that in after the ambulance is in. And uh that's what

[1:21:06] we got from vehicles right now. Uh we're up to about 87 calls for the year, which

[1:21:11] is a little bit below where we were at this time last year. Um so that's fine

[1:21:16] for us. We did have a pretty busy uh Labor Day weekend uh regarding calls,

[1:21:22] but um we're able to handle most of them. We did have bath come down um for

[1:21:29] some of them, but uh we were able to get out for most of them. So

[1:21:35] the uh did checked on that today and uh looks like Bath has come down to or been

[1:21:40] dispatched for Georgetown already nine times this year. I'm not really sure

[1:21:44] exactly if there's a specific uh reason for that necessarily, but um

[1:21:51] something we're keeping an eye on. Um, I know we budgeted for for 12 this year,

[1:21:56] so we're already pretty high on that. Uh, hopefully we can cut that down as

[1:21:59] the year goes. Um, working on trying to brainstorm some solutions for that, but

[1:22:05] um, it really comes down to availability, who's around when the call

[1:22:09] comes in. So, um, keep an eye on that moving forward. Uh, we have the Five

[1:22:15] Islands uh, roof repair should be getting going uh, this fall before it

[1:22:19] gets too cold. Uh we got the deposit sent out to the roofing contractor uh

[1:22:25] last week. Uh looking into getting some forestry upgrades. Um we're talking like

[1:22:32] internally on uh you know maybe adding some equipment or um maybe some extra

[1:22:37] forestry hose, some supply hose, things like that. Um for uh so we'll have that,

[1:22:43] you know, ready to roll for next probably next season. Uh is the way

[1:22:47] we're looking at it right now. Um, uh, in relation to the, uh, woodfire we had

[1:22:53] back in the end of July, uh, I did find out from the Forest Service that an

[1:22:58] individual was summoned for, uh, burning on land that was not theirs and, uh, for

[1:23:03] failure to extinguish. Uh, so the summones have been issued at this time.

[1:23:08] So, uh, that's where we are on that. Um, we have our new

[1:23:12] » Does that mean does that mean that the person uh, was found? And when you say

[1:23:18] it's been issued, um, it's also been the summon has been served or just issued.

[1:23:23] » I don't know the the exact word that I got was issued at this point. So, I

[1:23:27] don't know if it's actually been served yet.

[1:23:29] » I don't I don't have a timeline on that. I don't know how recent that is. Um, so

[1:23:33] » that's that's the information I got with that so far. Um,

[1:23:38] » we have our new uh communications tower should be online towards the end of the

[1:23:42] month. Um, so we'll have our radios reprogrammed a bit. um just to match up

[1:23:47] the channels. Um like Kitty said, we're going to go with a north and south uh

[1:23:52] grouping of channels so that um instead of hearing the entire county all in the

[1:23:57] same channel, we'll be hearing only half of the county down here. So, it'll help

[1:24:02] kind of compartmentalize some things and uh just kind of keep the airwaves clear

[1:24:06] for when we need them. Um but we're looking forward to that. The increased

[1:24:11] coverage should really help us out down here. Uh it's going to be some minor

[1:24:14] upgrades to the rest of the county, but I feel like for us, we're really we're

[1:24:17] really getting a lot out of this. Uh I have high hopes um for this coming up.

[1:24:22] So looking forward to that. Um we have our open house is uh Sunday,

[1:24:29] October 4th from 11 to 1. That's the uh beginning of fire prevention week. We

[1:24:34] got some uh stuff for the kids. We'll have our equipment out. Uh encourage

[1:24:38] everybody to come on by. Hopefully the flyers will be getting up this week. um

[1:24:42] have everyone come on by, meet us, shake their hand, see how's who's here, what's

[1:24:47] going on, that kind of thing. And uh if anyone's interested in joining the

[1:24:49] department, we could talk to someone about that uh pretty much anytime. But

[1:24:53] that's a good day for it, too. Um we are still working on finalizing our uh DA

[1:25:00] registration, whatnot. So, we have the actual registration now. Uh that has

[1:25:04] finally gone through. uh we have our policies written and I'm working on

[1:25:09] getting the uh our procurement system set up with our supplier at this point

[1:25:14] in time. So that's the step we're on right now and once we get that fully

[1:25:18] engaged we can start to actually transfer everything over and get that uh

[1:25:22] fully rolling right now. So, we're doing that. And uh we have added fuel cards to

[1:25:29] the vehicles so that uh we can more be more efficient when we fuel them up. And

[1:25:34] now every vehicle had its own assigned card, allow us to track the the fuel per

[1:25:38] vehicle and things like that much easier than we did before. So, those are some

[1:25:43] of our updates right now. Unless you guys have any uh questions on anything

[1:25:46] particular or anything else you want me to talk about over here.

[1:25:51] No, >> I would like to thank the fire

[1:25:53] department for I know it was a very busy weekend for them and uh I hope they're

[1:25:57] all doing well, too. >> Yeah,

[1:25:59] » thank you. We need the signs. >> Yeah.

[1:26:02] » Well, thank you for >> um and Tyler, I don't know if you want

[1:26:08] to address this or you want u Brian to the

[1:26:11] » um I don't know if Brian has been told yet officially. So, Maine CDC reached

[1:26:16] out about >> five or 10 minutes of five o'clock

[1:26:19] tonight. Um there was an animal bite this weekend and it turns out the

[1:26:24] raccoon was in fact rabid. Um the language from CDC doesn't indicate where

[1:26:30] the animal was, but connecting dots, my understanding it is the Bay Point Saget

[1:26:36] Bay Road part of town. Again, the raccoon is gone and tested, but

[1:26:40] something gave it rabies in that area. Um we've got wording up on the website.

[1:26:45] » We have all kinds of flyers the state provided us with that are up in the

[1:26:48] hallway here. and in the comments on the town Facebook page, which already has

[1:26:54] been getting a lot of attention. So, >> okay.

[1:26:59] » Well, thanks for the info. We'll uh pass that along. Keep the keep an eye out.

[1:27:03] » Yeah. >> And you said that particular rabbit

[1:27:05] raccoon is no more. >> That is how they test for. So, yes.

[1:27:09] » Yes. Thank Thankfully. >> Thankfully.

[1:27:12] » Thank you. >> Yeah. Um Okay, great. And we did notify

[1:27:17] the animal control officer from Bath on call about that and left a message for

[1:27:21] Dory Coolis. I'm sure game wardens are aware, but that was a fun right after

[1:27:26] the town office closes. >> Smattering of calls. Yeah.

[1:27:30] » So for what that's >> people should be aware.

[1:27:32] » Um I mean they're they're everywhere. >> Yes.

[1:27:36] » Um I don't like them as you might remember.

[1:27:40] But anyway, um I'll keep my comments to myself. All

[1:27:45] right. So, uh, now we are going to go to, um, old business and, um, theus

[1:27:51] » are ongoing. >> They're ongoing

[1:27:53] » and I would say that the and we could honestly add the Sagot Hawk EMA to the

[1:27:57] list of ongoing ones. Now, that's technically a memorandum of agreement

[1:28:01] and >> question I have for Phil is what's the

[1:28:04] difference, but I digress. That'll be offline, right?

[1:28:06] » Um, and the comprehensive plan check-in we're going to be deferring until 9:22.

[1:28:11] Yeah, we just we have a lot of business that we still need to get through uh

[1:28:14] tonight, including both executive sessions. So, makes sense. That's not

[1:28:19] something I want to rush. I know y'all don't want to rush our comp plan

[1:28:22] check-ins either. So, all right, let's uh move on. We have now a date for

[1:28:27] meeting with our committee chairs and hopefully a second person from the

[1:28:31] committees if we can um so we can when we talk about uh because sometimes the

[1:28:36] chairs aren't available for the meeting. So, it's nice to have somebody else from

[1:28:39] leadership there. Go ahead, Tyler. >> So, that'll be on uh September 29th at 7

[1:28:45] PM and will be hybrid. We're holding it here at the town office.

[1:28:49] » Um so, the room will be tight. That said, we'll make it work and folks on

[1:28:53] Zoom um we'll have that available as well.

[1:28:56] » Yeah. >> Um I think that part of what we wanted

[1:28:58] to do tonight was just have a check-in. Um if board members have suggestions or

[1:29:03] thoughts of things they'd like to make sure we have on that meeting, just

[1:29:07] please get those to me. I'd say by middle of next week so we can have an

[1:29:12] agenda for your guys's blessing on the 22nd.

[1:29:15] » And the meeting will be about a week later.

[1:29:17] » Yes. >> So, um,

[1:29:21] and we've got so much going on now. I wonder if we should entertain having a

[1:29:25] an additional select board meeting at some time just to get through things.

[1:29:31] » Yeah. the comp plan.

[1:29:38] » That's what we get for skipping one meeting.

[1:29:40] » It's a lot. >> And I I will say that we have a select

[1:29:43] board meeting tonight. Tomorrow was technically a meeting of the select

[1:29:47] board. >> Uh we'll have the meeting on the 22nd,

[1:29:50] the visit to McMahan. >> Um as well as um the meeting with

[1:29:55] committee chairs the following week. So, I think the select board will be getting

[1:29:59] together with some different hats every week this month.

[1:30:03] » Um, not saying that's a bad idea, just I don't know where the time might be in

[1:30:08] September. But, >> if we needed to workshop before

[1:30:15] on anything that was a priority for us, we could potentially do it after Macan,

[1:30:21] but depends on how long we'll be on Macan. But

[1:30:24] » you mean that you can't do it after >> Yeah. I don't know how long we're going

[1:30:27] to be there. >> And and again, I think that

[1:30:30] » right you Yeah. Yeah. >> A lot of these items though we say

[1:30:33] they're ongoing. Some of them will continue to be ongoing. For instance,

[1:30:37] the schoolou with the town has been on our list for a while, but that's

[1:30:42] something that will be coming. >> Although that that was discussed uh with

[1:30:45] Elaine at the last school board meeting in August. So I think they

[1:30:49] » right. But I'm just saying that some of these things though they appear often

[1:30:53] » were not in a bad place. Um, but >> I do agree. We want to have some good

[1:30:58] conversations about the comp plan check-in. Um, I'd say bring some good

[1:31:01] notes on the 22nd and we'll plan to dive in deep unless we do need to have a date

[1:31:07] sooner. >> Yeah.

[1:31:08] » Okay. Okay. Um, all right. So uh and then we've

[1:31:13] already addressed the working waterfront proclamation

[1:31:17] and I think our last new business item >> all these patient members

[1:31:23] » unless I'm missing it um is the uh discussion regarding the public comment

[1:31:28] and do we have Rufus too? >> We do

[1:31:31] » and Pam. So we've got I think everybody planning board Jennifer Dave. Okay.

[1:31:37] » Yep. All right. Great. Um All right. So, uh, I don't know if it's going to be

[1:31:42] Rufus that addresses us or if it's going to be Bob. Um, how are y'all planning to

[1:31:46] do this, Bob? Okay, come on down, please.

[1:31:48] » And I just want to state to the planning board, my apologies that you're at the

[1:31:52] end of this meeting. Uh, this addition to the agenda has been a little bit in

[1:31:56] flux over the weekend, and so I just would have had you as a scheduled

[1:31:59] appointment earlier, but I appreciate you being here, Bob.

[1:32:03] » That's okay. You'll pay later. >> I know. I know.

[1:32:10] Okay. Uh, you I'm sure you've heard almost everything

[1:32:15] I'm going to say. We got notified about a week ago that

[1:32:19] there is going to be a rule making proposal

[1:32:23] to carry out the implementation of LD 2173.

[1:32:28] And uh, once we got word of that and read it, uh, there were some things in

[1:32:35] there that were of concern to us. The biggest thing that concerned us

[1:32:42] is the statement for any area in which residential uses are allowed, including

[1:32:48] as a conditional use, a municipality may not require planning board approval for

[1:32:54] accessory dwelling units or solely because the project will establish four

[1:32:59] or fewer residential dwelling units within a single structure on a lot.

[1:33:06] Well, the way that reads, I'm sure it's not their intention, but it would

[1:33:11] basically uh eliminate

[1:33:15] the Georgetown Planning Board from approving any permits.

[1:33:21] » Everything would go to the code enforcement officer.

[1:33:26] And with the code enforcement officer being a part-time code enforcement

[1:33:30] officer, that's not fair to him. uh it basically is pointing the town in

[1:33:37] direction that you would have to have a full-time code enforcement officer which

[1:33:42] is not anything that you know the planning board is interested in pursuing

[1:33:48] or even recommending. Um but at any rate we have the

[1:33:54] opportunity to submit comments and recommendations

[1:33:58] to the rule making. The deadline for that is the 18th of this month. Um,

[1:34:05] as Katie said, we've had a couple of extra meetings and and scrambling to get

[1:34:12] things together and Rufus over the weekend has put together a uh proposal

[1:34:18] uh which basically tries to straighten out a couple of

[1:34:23] things so that it it's clarification and makes clear

[1:34:30] that the planning board still does have permission

[1:34:33] to uh sign building permits for single family dwelling units uh ADUs and things

[1:34:41] like that.

[1:34:45] And I believe you've all got a copy of it.

[1:34:48] » Yeah, >> I can go through and read it or you can

[1:34:52] if you've got questions or comments. >> No, I do have a question for for Rufus

[1:34:56] on his uh and for both of y'all, I guess. Um, so you know, at least in the

[1:35:01] legal world, the word may is may, right? Did y'all already talk about this?

[1:35:09] » Okay. So, we don't have to rehash that discussion.

[1:35:11] » Well, we want your perspective. >> But, so when I, you know, so I deal a

[1:35:16] lot with rules and, uh, so may is discretionary. Shall is um, you know,

[1:35:23] has no discretion. So, >> are you sure you weren't listening in

[1:35:27] this morning? Yeah. >> So, I mean, so that would just be my

[1:35:32] question. I wouldn't want us. So, I don't know that. I'll leave it at that.

[1:35:36] That's what I'm throwing out there. In my world,

[1:35:38] » yeah, >> and I have not talked.

[1:35:42] » So, go ahead, Rupus. >> We've done uh we we spent um a lot of

[1:35:47] time on this. Um and I actually uh if if you look it up, um there are three

[1:35:53] things you could have shall, may or cannot. And uh shall is a command.

[1:36:01] » You shall not do it. May not do it means you're not you don't

[1:36:06] have permission to do it. In other words, without the may not, you

[1:36:12] would be able to do it. So it's it's a um a setting where if it weren't for the

[1:36:18] may not, you could do it. And then cannot means uh you don't have the

[1:36:23] capacity. Uh so in the context that we're dealing with here, the proper use

[1:36:28] uh is may not and it means prohibit uh unless we get this clarification.

[1:36:35] » Okay. I just wanted to I I wanted to know if y'all discussed it. I should

[1:36:39] have known you discussed it, but you know, I'm just coming to this party

[1:36:42] late. >> I told them was very simple. Just put a

[1:36:45] comma in there. >> Yeah.

[1:36:48] The punctuation thing. >> Yeah, I do love punctuation. All right.

[1:36:52] Great. Well, thanks for the work that y'all put into this. I had a couple of

[1:36:55] just little uh tweaks to the memo, but um just a word tweaks. Nothing nothing

[1:37:01] that changes anything substantive. >> Um

[1:37:06] » I was curious about you getting your eyes on this document because it does

[1:37:10] read very >> legalise, right,

[1:37:13] » in a way. And >> I've only, you know, I've only looked at

[1:37:16] it today after my work day, but yeah. >> Yeah,

[1:37:19] » we tried to get it through as quickly as possible and get it in your hands so

[1:37:24] that you could see it because the deadline is not very far away,

[1:37:27] » right? >> And I assume that you would want to pass

[1:37:31] it through the town attorney as well. >> Well, the um maybe maybe not. I'm going

[1:37:37] to let Tyler speak to that. I wondered the same um and and also mindful of the

[1:37:43] budget, but go ahead, Tyler. >> So, I would say that we could certainly

[1:37:46] pass it through the town attorney. Um she's more equipped to decipher legal

[1:37:50] ease than I am. I can say that in the past when the town has taken positions

[1:37:56] on policym testifying before the legislature. We've

[1:38:01] done that on numerous bills. The town has written resolutions in the past that

[1:38:06] actually I think helped bring Representative Heeper some of the way on

[1:38:09] housing early on. Those were not things that were reviewed by town legal

[1:38:14] counsel. Um I am mindful that we only have so much in that budget and

[1:38:21] again there are other buckets if we had to.

[1:38:25] » I don't know that for testimony I'd necessarily say it needs to go through

[1:38:29] the attorney. That said, if folks are wanting to be cautious and make sure

[1:38:34] that things are good, I could see a definite case for that. Um, but I don't

[1:38:40] think we want to in practice any time that we offer testimony on a bill to

[1:38:46] send it that way. I know that the attorney would love that. I know in the

[1:38:49] past when we had a special and private law in, uh, Py and Flity was working

[1:38:54] really hard to try and get us to let them take on some of the lobbying for

[1:38:57] that. We held it here. We had part of ledge counsel right here at our tables.

[1:39:02] I just share that may be a good step, but I don't think it's particularly

[1:39:06] necessary in the sense that this is public comment to an agency that's in

[1:39:12] the middle of rulemaking and ultimately we'll make a decision.

[1:39:15] » Is this something that MMA would have any um particular I mean there's things

[1:39:20] that ought to go through Kristen Collins and then there's things that MMA can

[1:39:25] address for us. >> I MMA may take a look at it. I don't

[1:39:29] know with the time that we've got as well.

[1:39:33] » Um if we want to go that route, >> I'd note that this came through on a Mid

[1:39:38] Coast Council of Governments newsletter. >> Um I read I

[1:39:42] » former legislative aid. I'm a nerd. I read a lot of the legislative bulletins

[1:39:46] from MMA. >> I could have missed the one asking for

[1:39:49] public comment on this rules. I just >> share that

[1:39:53] » if we get MMA in it could turn this into an eight-page document two-page or

[1:39:58] » right >> then do we get the planning board back

[1:39:59] together? So I just >> I think it first came into being like

[1:40:03] around August 18th or 19th something like that

[1:40:09] is when it first came out >> but we didn't get word of it or were not

[1:40:14] informed about it until last week. >> Right. I'm just saying when it came

[1:40:19] » and you know it's going back to the to the county council it u the draft was

[1:40:29] written up by a lawyer >> a pretty good one too I have to say

[1:40:32] » rumor has it >> yeah and it's it was very well

[1:40:35] researched and he gave up his Labor Day weekend for that so

[1:40:39] » he he gave he put a lot of time into this so over Labor Day weekend and he

[1:40:43] did have family visiting and so on and so forth so We're very appreciative all

[1:40:48] the time. >> Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. It was clear

[1:40:50] you put a lot of time into this, Rufus. If we had challenge coins, you'd be

[1:40:54] getting one. >> Is there a difference between submitting

[1:41:00] testimony and a comment like this? It seems like

[1:41:04] » not particularly. So, I mean, this >> Arya could probably speak to it a little

[1:41:09] bit better than I, but the legislature passes laws. They often times then have

[1:41:14] an agency develop rules to implement for the law.

[1:41:17] » That's where we're at on this one. So, the law has already been passed.

[1:41:21] Normally, we try to head it off at the pass at the state house, right?

[1:41:25] » But I'll also say that we are very not picky and choosy on the battles we

[1:41:30] choose to wage, but we've only got so many arrows in the quiver. Um, this

[1:41:34] definitely seems like a good move to talk about housing. I think that

[1:41:39] Georgetown definitely has some advice it could offer here. So, I think it makes

[1:41:43] sense to offer that testimony. >> Um, but I wouldn't necessarily say that

[1:41:48] we want to do testimony on every housing bill.

[1:41:50] » Sure. There must be so many municipalities that have part-time CEOs

[1:41:54] that are also in this vote. I I it seemed to me that the piece of

[1:41:59] legislation was had the intention of easing a system through a very

[1:42:04] complicated housing u field and but it for small municipalities like us it had

[1:42:10] the consequent instead of actually making it more difficult because we

[1:42:15] would have to probably hire additional amounts of Mike's time.

[1:42:21] » Right. And one of the other questions that we I think has come up is would it

[1:42:25] be more forceful, more powerful for both select board and planning board to sign

[1:42:31] it or >> I think it would have to come from the

[1:42:34] municipality, wouldn't it? I'm not sure. >> I I think coming from the town of

[1:42:39] Georgetown, I mean, that covers all of us. I mean, right, we could have

[1:42:43] multiple folks sign, but I from my experience in Augusta, testimony is very

[1:42:48] important. It's more the meat of what's in there

[1:42:51] than necessarily who's signing it. But not to say that we can't add a signature

[1:42:55] sheet. >> It probably doesn't make a difference.

[1:42:58] » I mean, I think we're all the same municipality.

[1:43:00] » I think the question was who will send the email

[1:43:02] » from what email will it be? >> Well, the TA, I would imagine. Yeah,

[1:43:06] » I can do that if we're comfortable. Um, do we want

[1:43:10] » I I mean, I'd like a little bit more time. Okay. But Rufus, is there anything

[1:43:13] you >> Huh? We have a little more.

[1:43:15] » Yeah. Right. Exactly. I thought you said you had the time and I was like,

[1:43:21] » we have gosh. >> So, we have until next Friday,

[1:43:24] » right? >> Yeah. Right.

[1:43:27] » So, does that mean we have to um have a special meeting?

[1:43:32] » No, we can make a motion tonight that gives us enough uh discretion, give us a

[1:43:38] a buffer to make to make a decision like we've done sometimes on funding motions.

[1:43:44] But I I do want to hear from Rufus. Um Rufus, what uh what how do you want to

[1:43:50] supplement your writing here? If there's anything in specifically that you think

[1:43:55] we need to pay attention to or make sure we're comfortable with since it's the

[1:44:00] mun municipality that's going to be delivering this.

[1:44:04] » Um well, these are um important issues. Um uh I'm not sure you know agencies in

[1:44:13] my experiences are somewhat reluctant to change things um

[1:44:20] but they but they do on occasions and for example the original

[1:44:27] rule contained

[1:44:31] uh you know I I got in touch with the administrative officer the officer and

[1:44:36] the secretary of state dealing with administrative rules and he was kind

[1:44:39] enough to send me the the comment um page um of the agency in response to the

[1:44:45] original rule. It was like 70 pages. So, >> wow.

[1:44:49] » Um there were a lot of comments on the original rule. U but interestingly, no

[1:44:54] one has really focused on this one. This has been on my alarm list for six months

[1:45:00] and uh it it just a sleeper there. And um I I' I've uh sort of raised a lot of

[1:45:08] um I raised it with our um representative um Allison and with Bob

[1:45:16] and others and it and it's just it hasn't received a lot of attention, but

[1:45:21] it it could have a very serious impact on on the town if it's read the wrong

[1:45:26] way. I think we should be all right on this and I'm hoping we'll get some

[1:45:31] clarification, but I I don't see very comfortable where we are and uh with the

[1:45:38] town making these comments. I don't see us um

[1:45:42] um I don't see how this there's anything in there that I would point to you that

[1:45:48] um you should pay particular attention to other than what what are you know

[1:45:55] the comments that are made. So, um it it's sort of a little bit um dancing uh

[1:46:02] or counting the angels on top of a pen. I mean,

[1:46:05] » it's um and it's a lot of sort of word

[1:46:09] analysis and it sort of does get by by necessity. You you get into

[1:46:16] some legal ease because you really have to. Um but in the end, we're just asking

[1:46:21] for like on one issue, we we boil it down to one word. just put one word in

[1:46:26] there and that'll cover us. And the other one was like five or six words. So

[1:46:31] » what we're asking for is very modest changes that would clarify this. Whether

[1:46:36] whether they agree with that or not, I don't know. And if they don't, you know,

[1:46:40] we we'll have to look at it. If if we win

[1:46:44] on the there are two issues here. And um the um issue about solely because there

[1:46:50] four or less uh dwelling units in a structure. If if we um if we get that uh

[1:46:58] agreement on that then um there wouldn't be a huge impact on the second issue

[1:47:04] even if we lost it because um if we're only talking about multiple um ADUs and

[1:47:11] and structures with multiple families, there's just not that many. So if if we

[1:47:16] had to if the CEO only did those two issues, that wouldn't hurt us. Um, but

[1:47:24] if if we couldn't do any single family, then that would definitely be a huge

[1:47:28] issue. >> Yeah. Donna, go ahead.

[1:47:31] » So, so in terms of a roadmap, would it make sense if we get to the point of a

[1:47:35] motion that we tacitly approve that we're going to submit comments to this

[1:47:38] and designate Arya and Rufus to touch base to Wordsmith if anything had to be

[1:47:43] changed. >> That I'm comfortable with that, Rupus. I

[1:47:47] can make myself available. I just had a couple of tweaks to Words. I added a

[1:47:52] word just because one sentence was particularly dense. I really appreciate

[1:47:56] how you made what I think is a lot more of a dense topic uh straightforward

[1:48:03] um so that somebody who doesn't have legal training understands what the heck

[1:48:07] you're talking about here. So I think that goes a long way to still use common

[1:48:12] sense and not let our education get in the way of that. Right. Um so but um

[1:48:17] yeah I think I'm comfortable with that but it doesn't have to be me. It could

[1:48:20] be one of y'all since you've both been more involved in this than me.

[1:48:24] » I think it should be you because you're the chair and coincidentally you're also

[1:48:28] a lawyer. Um that's fine. I'm happy to do that.

[1:48:31] » I don't think it means much. >> I don't either. I literally like it's

[1:48:34] little tiny bits. >> Yeah. But some days um it's going to be

[1:48:39] easy. I would suggest that um once we agree on any final tweaking that one

[1:48:45] format would just be to have um Tyler as as the um town manager send it an email

[1:48:53] and say this is the town's position. I mean I don't know that we need

[1:48:56] signatures or anything else. >> We can just get it in and

[1:48:59] » Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm comfortable with that. I don't think we need a bunch of

[1:49:02] signatures either, but I you know I can go either way on that. And so I'd just

[1:49:06] say we want to make sure any conversations that need to happen happen

[1:49:10] by the 17th at the drop deadad latest because we want to get this off at the

[1:49:15] top of the list >> and we're going to see Rufus on I think

[1:49:18] on Macahan that day anyway. >> That's true.

[1:49:20] » Yeah. I wanted to ask you Arya um uh about that. I have a a golf cart on

[1:49:25] Mcmahan. Um and I go there every day uh just about because of family. Um and I

[1:49:32] would be I I would um I'm I'm obviously very interested in it because I see

[1:49:39] McMahan from the point of view that I've spent my whole life on McMahan and now

[1:49:44] and now many years from the Georgetown mainland side. And if uh I didn't want

[1:49:50] to interfere, but if I could be a resource for you in that field trip, I

[1:49:54] I'd be very happy to do that. So, um I just wanted to ask your permission for

[1:49:59] that because I I just don't want to butt in on it. I know I have a right to do

[1:50:03] it, but that's not what I I just want to see if it you're comfortable with me

[1:50:07] just tagging along and answering any questions I could or

[1:50:10] » I I would defer just to the president of Sheepkott Island Company and Chris. I'm

[1:50:15] sure they could accommodate, especially if you've got a golf cart. We might need

[1:50:18] an extra seat, too. And you've got lived experience. But given that the invite

[1:50:23] came from them, I just want to make sure they're comfortable because

[1:50:26] » Sure. >> Yep.

[1:50:28] » No, that's fine. So, if someone could get back to me and say or um let me know

[1:50:33] if if they think that is all right. I mean, I I'm not trying to introduce

[1:50:38] myself into conversations, but um because I have a continuing

[1:50:44] uh presence in town and interest in these issues, uh it would be nice for me

[1:50:50] to hear what what kind of conversations take place.

[1:50:54] » Okay. Thank you. And so, uh and we'll getting back to this memo. Um, you and I

[1:50:59] will coordinate offline, Rufus. Okay. Just talk through these couple of little

[1:51:04] things. And you may say, "Nope, I I had a specific reason for using that word."

[1:51:09] Um, and so that's what I wanted to to talk to you about because again, it's

[1:51:13] very very minor. >> Yep. That's fine. That's great. I'm

[1:51:16] available. Just shoot me an email. >> Yep. Same same. And then we'll uh round

[1:51:21] up with you, Tyler, by the 17th. I'd like to just do it sooner.

[1:51:25] » Amen. >> Yeah. So, I don't like to go too close

[1:51:28] to a deadline like that. So, um Rufus, you know how to reach me if you're

[1:51:32] feeling nervous about the time, but I've got it in my uh calendar.

[1:51:37] » I don't know. I don't know. I was telling Tommy tonight, I don't know how

[1:51:40] you guys do it. I just don't. But I understand.

[1:51:44] » Yeah, we got it. We We have We got you. All right. Um so, uh let's let's frame

[1:51:50] up a motion. Anything else you want to share with us, Rufus, about this

[1:51:53] process? >> Nope. Okay. I'm good. Anyone else on the

[1:51:56] planning? >> And anyone else on the planning board?

[1:51:59] » I apprec we appreciate that all of y'all are here.

[1:52:03] » I'd like to be kept in loop if there are any changes made.

[1:52:08] » Yeah. Yeah. >> Before it goes out.

[1:52:11] » Me too. >> Yeah. I mean literally. Yeah. It's it's

[1:52:14] very smooth. I did attract changes. Um just for ease of reading is really I

[1:52:20] guess what I should say is mine. Um all right. So then

[1:52:26] Tyler, what kind of motion do you think? >> Possibly a motion to submit public

[1:52:30] comment for the agency rule making on the proposed housing rule to be

[1:52:35] submitted by >> Yeah.

[1:52:37] » the 17th. >> Yeah. Okay. And we'll just keep it that

[1:52:40] general. All right. >> So moved.

[1:52:42] » Yeah. >> Does that work? And I I'm happy to

[1:52:44] second it. >> Okay. Thank you, Tyler.

[1:52:47] » All right. >> All those in favor, it's unanimous.

[1:52:50] » And that is unanimous. >> Yeah. So, um, just to recap, we'll get

[1:52:53] that, uh, review done. I'll talk offline with Rufus. Um, we'll get that

[1:52:58] coordinated, those final will be sent to the planning board and, um, and then

[1:53:04] we'll get that off of as our comments to, um, in advance of the 18th deadline.

[1:53:11] Okay, great. All right. And let me go back to the agenda.

[1:53:17] » I note that for items for signature, there were no appointment certificates

[1:53:20] tonight. That's kind of just a placeholder language. We do have a

[1:53:23] cemetery deed, two copies to be signed later this evening, and then additional

[1:53:28] copies of the working waterfront um designation proclamation.

[1:53:32] » All right. And now that returns us to public comment at 8:28. Do we have any

[1:53:36] public comment in the room? No. Okay. And what about anybody who's joined us

[1:53:41] online?

[1:53:45] Okay. Well, thank you for coming and staying for the two hours that we ran

[1:53:51] tonight. And with that, pursuant to one MRS section 4056E,

[1:53:57] we're going to have our consultations with town council. And immediately

[1:54:02] thereafter, also pursuant to main revised statute uh 1, section 4056A,

[1:54:09] we're going to continue our conversation with town council regarding personnel.

[1:54:14] Thanks, Lisa. and then we will very briefly um come

[1:54:19] back on and and adjourn. So, thank you all. If you could please sign off, we'll

[1:54:25] see you around next time.

[1:54:30] » Who is um it was a someone I didn't recognize anywhere.

[1:54:36] All right, we have concluded our executive session and um we have now set

[1:54:42] our next date for uh the executive session board meeting

[1:54:48] for October 6th. >> Um in which we will be conducting

[1:54:52] personnel business and is there any other business to

[1:54:57] conduct tonight? >> Okay, with that I'll entertain a motion

[1:55:00] to adjurnn. >> I move we adjourn.

[1:55:03] » I'll second that. All those in favor 9:30.

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