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» You ready, Alicia?
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Ready to go? Okay.
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All right. Welcome, everybody. Uh, we
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will call this meeting to order. This is
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a regular meeting and public hearing of
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the Grantsville City Council. For the
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record, today's date is June 17th, 2026
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and the time is 7:00 p.m.
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This meeting is being held at the
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Grantsville City Council Chambers
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located at 429 East Main Street,
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Grantsville, Utah, as well as
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electronically by Zoom.
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I am Mayor Heidi Hammond and I will
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conduct a roll call. Council member
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Thomas.
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>> Here.
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>> Williams.
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>> Here.
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>> Dalton.
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>> Here.
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>> Skinner.
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>> Here.
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>> And Council member Butler is excused
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from the first portion of the meeting
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and he had a work obligation and will
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join us electronically when he can and
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when he has joined us, I will stop the
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meeting and and make mention that he is
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here and available to vote on our
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council.
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Um I've asked Les Peterson if he would
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lead the Pledge of Allegiance today.
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» Those of you who are actually able to
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salute,
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please your hand over your heart. All of
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you who are in uniform, please salute.
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I will ask you to follow me in the
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Pledge of Allegiance.
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Present arms.
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>> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
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United States of America
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and to the republic for which it stands,
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one nation under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice
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for all.
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>> Two. You may be seated. Thank you.
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>> [clears throat]
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[laughter]
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» Thank you, Les. Thanks for taking the
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time to be here with us. We appreciate
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it. Thanks.
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Um all right, our first item
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on our agenda tonight is public comment
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and the floor is open to the public to
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bring their concerns to the council. I
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would like to note that items 9 and 10
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and 12 are also public hearing items.
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So, when we get to if you have a comment
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regarding 9, 10, or 12, if you will
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please hold your comment until that
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point, you will have an opportunity then
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to express your concerns when we get to
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those items after they have been
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presented. We will give you an
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opportunity to speak to those items. But
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if you have any other items you would
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like to bring to the attention of the
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council,
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the time is yours to come to the
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microphone or if you're on Zoom,
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if you could raise your hand, we would
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love to hear your comments.
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» I am Sheldon Birch. I am
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not here to complain about anything.
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>> Good. We love that.
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>> [laughter]
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>> I'm as you know, I'm probably know I'm
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on the Erda City Council and as I look
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at your agenda, I'm glad to know that
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Erda is not the only one with difficult
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things on on their agenda. And I'm
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I also assume you know that I'm running
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for a House District 29 and I am here
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and listening and trying to pay
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attention, doing my best. So, thank you.
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>> Thank you. Thanks for your concern for
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our community. Appreciate it.
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And thanks for not complaining. We
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really appreciate
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>> [laughter]
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>> Any other comments?
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You can even complain. We won't We won't
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hold it against you.
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>> [laughter]
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» Anybody online, Alicia?
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All right, we're going to close the
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public comment portion of our
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agenda tonight.
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Um the next item of business is the
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summary action items.
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Uh the approval of minutes from the June
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3rd, 2026 City Council regular meeting.
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Do any of the council members have any
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corrections to the minutes?
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And if not, can I get a motion?
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» Mayor, I'll make a motion. We move to
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approve minutes of June 3rd, 2026 City
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Council regular meeting.
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>> We have a motion by Council Member
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Thomas. Is there a second?
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>> I'll second the motion.
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>> A second by Council Member Skinner. All
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in favor?
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>> Aye.
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>> I.
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>> Okay.
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And
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item B,
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um approval of the bills. Does anybody
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have any concerns with the bills as
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they've been presented?
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And if not, can I get a motion?
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» Mayor, I make a motion that we approve
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the bills as presented.
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>> We have a motion by Council member
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Williams for the approval of the bills.
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Can I get a second?
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>> I second.
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>> Second by Council member Thomas. All in
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favor?
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>> Aye.
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>> Thank you.
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The next item tonight, um is exciting.
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It's the recognition of the rodeo
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committee.
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Uh we would like to take a moment to
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recognize the many individuals who
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helped make the return of the
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Grantsville Rodeo possible.
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As many of you know, this year's rodeo
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marked the return of a community
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tradition that has been absent for
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several years. As a child, I remember
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the rodeo vividly. I remember working in
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the concession stand. Um it was just a
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great time of year. It was exciting. And
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it has been missed from our community
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for several years.
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While residents and visitors enjoyed the
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rodeo events and festivities, what often
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goes unseen are the countless hours of
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planning, preparation, coordination, and
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physical labor required behind the
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scenes to make an event of this size
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successful.
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The success of this year's rodeo was
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truly a community effort. We are
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grateful for the members of the rodeo
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committee, the city staff from multiple
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departments, sponsors, volunteers, and
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community members who generously gave
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their time, talents, and resources to
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support this event.
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I would like to especially recognize the
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extraordinary efforts of our parks
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department and roads department. These
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employees dedicated countless hours
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preparing the grounds,
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um
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maintaining facilities, coordinating
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logistics, setting up and taking down
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equipment, and ensuring the event was
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ready for participants and spectators.
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Their hard work was instrumental to the
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success of the rodeo and often took
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place behind the scenes without
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recognition.
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I would also like to recognize the
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members of the rodeo committee whose
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vision, leadership, and commitment
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helped bring the Grantsville back to our
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community after years of absence.
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Their willingness to invest their time
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and energy into reviving this cherished
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tradition made this event possible.
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And I would like to just add um one of
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the greatest things for me for the rodeo
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was I feel like I I just have new
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friends. I got to know some of the
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people on the rodeo committee that I
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didn't know prior, and they are amazing
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people with
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a great work ethic and just a
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It was just fantastic. So, what I gained
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from the rodeo was friends. So, thank
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you. I appreciate it was just a a
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pleasure to work side by side with you
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in the many hours and time and several
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of the council members as well.
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Um on behalf of Grantsville City
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Council, city staff, and the residents
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of Grantsville, we extend our sincere
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appreciation to everyone who contributed
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to the successful return of the
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Grantsville Rodeo. Tonight, we are
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honored to present the mayor's award of
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appreciation to the Grantsville Rodeo
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Committee, the Public Works Parks
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Department, and the Public Works Road
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Department in recognition of their
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exceptional service and dedication.
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And I would like to read the names um of
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those departments and those individuals
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from the committee to um be recognized
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and um if they would please come
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forward.
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Yeah, our Shelly's right there. She
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wants to, but maybe
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she could probably use some help. Yeah.
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>> I'll be August 5th.
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>> Yeah.
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And if these individuals are are here,
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if they would please stand and we will
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probably not sort the certificates out
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as quickly as
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we'd like to, but if you would just
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stand, we would love to recognize you.
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Shane Johnson
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Christine Parker
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Larry Peterson
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Aaron Stevanus
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Aspen Clegg
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Michelle Barney
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Mitchell I'm sorry. I read that wrong.
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Mitchell Barney, Shelby Moore
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Trent Riddle
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Anthony Butler
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Ryan Durfee
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Steve Barney
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Ben Henderson
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Colton Newsome
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Canyon Williams
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Race Wheeler
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Andrew Mascaro, I hope I pronounced that
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right.
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Hunter Haymore
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Bryce Eakins
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Kevin England
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Ali Baird
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Audrey Critchlow
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and Canyon Tynan
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And also thank you to our public works
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director for allowing them the time to
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escape other projects. So thank you
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Christie. I'm sure she was Stand on up,
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Christie.
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All right, so to these individuals we
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sincerely offer our gratitude. I know
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how many hours you all spent and I
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appreciate it and because of that it was
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a fabulous success and I can't wait for
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next year. So
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» Thank you all very much. And then we
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have
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Do you have those?
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Go ahead and grab them. Okay, we have
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these little uh
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cowboys also to give to each of the
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different groups that that made this a
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success.
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And I think that Shelby Moore deserves a
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huge round of applause all on her own.
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Thank you, Shelby.
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>> Thank you.
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>> It was phenomenal. You did a great job.
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>> She has a little presentation.
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>> Okay, and now she is going Item number
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four is a discussion and council
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direction on the Battle of the Bronx
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during the Honey Harvest Festival
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presented by Shelby Moore, but I think
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Are you presenting something from the
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rodeo?
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>> It was just for the rodeo committee.
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>> Okay.
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>> I think it would be great just to kind
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of go through this and look at the
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wonderful pictures that were taken.
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Um
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so you can see
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you know, our sponsors were tremendous.
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Um these pictures were taken by um
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Lauren, Shane's daughter. Uh she donated
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her time um and the pictures to the
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city. If you just go through those.
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So you can see
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um
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uh it was a fantastic rodeo and it was
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emotional Saturday, especially when we
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had the flag fly in and
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um so as you can see, this is Friday and
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the huge crowd and
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so it was great.
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Um just some pictures of the rodeo
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committee hanging out.
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Um helping with the the sheep and other
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livestock. The bottom picture is kind of
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my favorite.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Um
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yeah, if you just want to keep going.
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Um this is just a little video kind of
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what the grounds look like before and
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after.
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>> [snorts]
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>> So, you know, Ben and Colton and their
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team did a phenomenal job.
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And then if you want to go to the next
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slide.
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Just hit escape and then the next slide.
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>> Oh.
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It just this
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Keep going?
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>> No, hit escape.
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» That was good.
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And you've got the
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>> Anyways,
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um it was fantastic. I do have
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a video that I would like to play for
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the
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um bronc riding. It's called Battle of
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the Broncos.
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It's a
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event that I think would be fantastic to
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run in lieu of the Honey Harvest
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Festival.
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Make sure we have good audio this time.
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Last time it didn't go well.
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>> [clears throat]
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» So, I think it'd be fun to to have that
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event. Um
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I have reached out to sponsors, and I
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have had
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um almost $30,000 worth of sponsorship
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um guaranteed and interested in
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sponsoring not only the Battle of the
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Broncos, but the next year's Memorial
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Day Rodeo.
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And so, I think this would be
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um a great opportunity to bring our
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community together again. Um
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So, yeah. We're just looking for
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direction from council to see if that's
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something we want to do.
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» I think yes.
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I was like I was amazed at the rodeo. I
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just I I went both nights, and I thought
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it was so many people that said such
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positive things. It was great. It was
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good to see, I mean, meet people, like
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you said. And so, I think this is
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something I mean, I've been to Honey
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Har- Harvest Festival, too, obviously,
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but the um
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I think this So, this would go on at the
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rodeo grounds the same weekend we're
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doing the honey harvest festival.
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>> Correct. Yep, October 10th. So, that's a
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Saturday. The Honey Harvest Festival
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gets over about 5:30, 6:00. That's when
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we're wanting to bring the crowd over to
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the rodeo, you know, so they can go get
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their honey and we can get some of those
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vendors to, you know, transition over
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and and bring that crowd.
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>> Yeah, that is fine [snorts] with me.
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>> I think it's a good idea. I missed the
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rodeo, unfortunately, as I was on a
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vacation that was booked well in
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advance. So, I'm sorry I couldn't
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cancel, but
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I love to go to something else and I
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don't have any vacations planned for us
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over the 10th.
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>> [laughter and clears throat]
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>> Perfect. We'll put you to work there.
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Good to know your schedule's open.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Now we got more than a month to plan, so we're ready.
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We'll just hang [clears throat] out
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until September.
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>> That's right.
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>> [laughter]
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>> Well, we did all the hard work, so we're
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good now.
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>> it's great. Honey Harvest Harvest
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Festival brings in a ton of people
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>> Mhm.
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>> and I think it'd be nice segue into
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that. Long day for some people, but it'd
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be fun.
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>> Yeah, it's a good complimentary
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activity, I think, with the Honey
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Harvest Festival, so.
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Jeff or Jake, do you have any input?
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>> No, I I I feel the same. [clears throat]
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I I think uh we talk about, you know,
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his you know, traditions that we have
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and some of these it's sad that they've
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kind of gone by the wayside and
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we're able to
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rejuvenate it and I'm hoping that, yeah, that it
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continues to be something that, you
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know, memories can be made and
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you know, Mayor mentioned some memories
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that she has and
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be able to have that happen for future
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generations in Grantsville. Um we have
[16:50]
some really awesome traditions that, you
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know, the 4th of July we got that coming
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up here.
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It's a week-long
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awesome week and
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we we grow as a city during that time
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from from where all everyone comes to
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visit and so having some of these things
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that
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can help benefit our community and bring
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us together, I think, are very
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beneficial. I I fully support it, so.
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>> Be great. Let's do it.
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>> Let's do it. There's the word. Let's do
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it. All right. Rodeo committee, get back
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to work. You [laughter] can't stay here
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any longer. Head back out there.
[17:24]
All right. Thank you very much. Thank
[17:25]
you to Shelby. Thank you to the Roads
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Department, the Parks Department, and
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the and the Rodeo Committee especially.
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Thank you so much for all your work. So,
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thank you.
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Moving on to agenda item number five, a
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presentation from the Division of Water
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Resources regarding a water-wise
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landscape incentive program and council
[17:46]
directions. And also to all those who
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are here with the Rodeo Committee, this
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is fascinating stuff. You're welcome to
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sit around and listen. If you do not
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want to, please feel free to be excused.
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You do not need to feel obligated to sit
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here all night.
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>> [laughter]
[18:02]
>> Yeah.
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>> Thanks.
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>> I might have to
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>> Hold on one second.
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>> Something with my computer glitches.
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>> [laughter]
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» Thank you.
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» Okay. So, are your name is Heidi as well
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as mine? Okay, we have two Heidis.
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>> Can you hear this? There we go. Okay,
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yes. Two Heidis. It's not very often I
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get to meet another Heidi.
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>> Yeah, it's great. The Conservation
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Coordinator with the Utah Department of
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Natural Resources Division of Water
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Resources.
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>> Yes, that's a very long
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>> very long title. Okay.
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>> very long. Usually we just say with
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Water Resources and people can remember
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that.
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>> Heidi King King from King from Water
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Resources. There you go.
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>> Yes. Um I'm here to speak on the
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statewide landscape incentive program
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and I greatly appreciate the council's
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time to be able to present on this and
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answer any questions that you may have.
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So, I will briefly discuss what the
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landscape program is and who is
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eligible, why we incentivize lawn
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removal, and what we do not incentivize,
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as well as those conservation benefits
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associated with it, additional resources
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that are available to participants, and
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then I'll take any questions at the end.
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So, the landscape incentive program
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began in 2023. It is a statewide
[19:24]
program, and it is available to
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residents and any properties uh that are
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residing in municipalities that have
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adopted water-efficient landscape
[19:34]
ordinances for new construction. This
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rebate is delivered by the Division of
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Water Resources in partnership with the
[19:43]
largest water districts in the state.
[19:45]
So, the large water districts, they
[19:47]
cover the population centers, so along
[19:49]
the Wasatch Front and Washington County.
[19:51]
And then Water Resources, we deliver the
[19:54]
program to the more rural areas of the
[19:56]
state, including Tooele County.
[19:58]
Um
[20:00]
and we promote switching from the
[20:02]
traditional Kentucky bluegrass to
[20:04]
water-wise landscaping. And this is some
[20:06]
good before-and-after photos. The most
[20:09]
common projects that we see are in the
[20:11]
park strip, because that's where the
[20:12]
biggest water savings can happen.
[20:15]
It's uh water
[20:17]
sprinklers really struggle, the
[20:19]
technology of it, to water anything
[20:21]
that's less than 8 ft wide efficiently.
[20:24]
So, anything that's smaller than that 8
[20:26]
ft wide is going to experience overspray
[20:28]
and dry spots, which is why park strips
[20:31]
tend to struggle the most. And then
[20:33]
people see dry spots, so then they water
[20:34]
it even more. Uh and that's why park
[20:38]
strips are very popular for this
[20:40]
conversion, because it's so much easier
[20:42]
to take care of, as well as reduce that
[20:44]
water use.
[20:46]
Go ahead to the next one.
[20:49]
So, this is what we do rebate. Um
[20:53]
the There's a photo behind, but and you
[20:55]
can't see it, and I apologize for that,
[20:57]
but that's okay. Um the photo behind has
[20:59]
grass in it. We do incentivize the
[21:02]
removal of grass, but we don't
[21:04]
incentivize removing everything. So,
[21:07]
it's okay if you can't see. We'll be
[21:09]
okay.
[21:10]
Uh so,
[21:12]
the photo on the right is not something
[21:13]
that we incentivize. We don't
[21:15]
incentivize full hardscaping because it
[21:18]
has some ecological uh detriments to it
[21:22]
and we don't want to incentivize that.
[21:24]
That's not something that we encourage
[21:25]
either. Uh the photos on the left are
[21:27]
what we do incentivize. So, you can
[21:29]
remove all of your grass and replace it
[21:31]
with water-wise plants. We do require
[21:33]
that at least 50% of the project area
[21:36]
have plants and water-wise plants are
[21:37]
really anything that is uh longer lived
[21:41]
than 1 year typically. So, perennial
[21:43]
shrubs, trees, bulbs, anything except
[21:46]
for the grass and the annuals. Um and
[21:49]
you can keep grass. Uh
[21:52]
we often see people remove grass in the
[21:54]
hardest areas to maintain that's not
[21:57]
really being used. So, typically against
[21:59]
the fence or structures, buildings, and
[22:01]
whatnot that takes a lot of equipment to
[22:03]
maintain and reduce the amount of grass
[22:06]
that they have so it's just a usable
[22:07]
area. It's bigger than 8 ft wide so it's
[22:10]
easy to maintain as well as using less
[22:13]
water.
[22:14]
Go ahead to the next one. So, this is
[22:16]
just a quick snapshot of the cities that
[22:19]
are eligible for this program. Um we did
[22:22]
just get Layton City is on there now so
[22:25]
we have 73 eligible cities
[22:27]
um or municipalities
[22:29]
and it's continually growing especially
[22:32]
in the more rural areas. Go ahead to the
[22:35]
next one. I mentioned our partnerships.
[22:38]
This is just a a brief visual map of
[22:40]
what that looks like. So, the blue areas
[22:43]
are covered by water districts and then
[22:45]
the rest of the state is what we uh
[22:48]
deliver this program to.
[22:53]
So, how do people become eligible for
[22:55]
this? So, the
[22:56]
uh the incentive is $2 per square foot
[22:59]
of lawn that's removed and water-wise
[23:01]
plantings are replaced with that. So,
[23:04]
that is the plants, drip irrigation, and
[23:07]
a mulch. That's the program.
[23:10]
And a city has to adopt a
[23:13]
water-efficient landscaping standards
[23:15]
for new development only. This is not a
[23:17]
retroactive program. It does not apply
[23:19]
to properties that already exist. It is
[23:21]
for new developments only. And I'll go
[23:24]
over what those
[23:25]
standards are in just a moment. So,
[23:28]
eligible projects are really any
[23:31]
property type. So, it's not just
[23:32]
homeowners, but commercials and
[23:34]
commercial properties and businesses, as
[23:36]
well as government properties such as
[23:39]
government buildings, libraries,
[23:42]
public works buildings. The only
[23:44]
exceptions would be golf courses,
[23:46]
agricultural property, sod farms, and
[23:49]
parks.
[23:51]
And then application is pretty simple.
[23:53]
It's through Utah Water Savers right
[23:56]
now. We're transitioning to
[23:57]
slowtheflow.org.
[23:59]
So, either one of those websites will
[24:00]
get you the incentive program.
[24:05]
So, these are the ordinance
[24:06]
requirements. This is only for new
[24:08]
development. It does not apply to
[24:10]
existing properties. And it's as simple
[24:14]
as this. And I will preface this with we
[24:16]
work with all of the cities to adopt
[24:19]
these ordinances because we recognize
[24:21]
that it's not a one-size-fits-all.
[24:23]
And there's a lot of flexibility with
[24:25]
it. And one of my colleagues is the
[24:27]
person who works closely with the cities
[24:29]
to help them figure out what ordinances
[24:33]
exactly, how to word it, will fit for
[24:36]
the municipality. So, these are the bare
[24:38]
minimum. Is no lawn in park strips. And
[24:41]
I noticed Grantsville doesn't have a ton
[24:43]
of park strips, so that shouldn't be too
[24:45]
difficult.
[24:46]
No lawn in areas less than 8 ft wide.
[24:49]
And then lawn limitations for the front
[24:51]
yards. So,
[24:52]
half of the front yard and side yard
[24:54]
landscaped areas
[24:56]
uh be more than half of it being grass.
[25:00]
Uh and then there's some exceptions for
[25:02]
those really small lots, especially for
[25:04]
multi-family housing. And then some lawn
[25:07]
limitations for the commercial,
[25:09]
industrial, and institutional properties
[25:11]
that have large properties. We don't
[25:13]
want it all grass. Uh that takes a lot
[25:15]
of water. We want to be intentional
[25:17]
about how we're landscaping because uh
[25:20]
it uses
[25:22]
uh usually up to like 75 70% more water
[25:25]
than the water-wise landscaping.
[25:27]
Go ahead to the next.
[25:29]
>> [snorts]
[25:29]
>> And this is what it looks like in
[25:30]
practice. A lot of people get really
[25:32]
nervous about these ordinances and what
[25:34]
it will look like, and they don't want
[25:36]
all rock, they don't want all
[25:37]
desert-looking stuff, they want grass to
[25:39]
be able to play on. And again, this only
[25:41]
applies to the front yard. So, you'll
[25:43]
see on the left-hand side there's still
[25:44]
grass. There's just not grass going up
[25:47]
to the fence or the house. That's
[25:49]
landscaped with water-wise landscaping,
[25:51]
and then the park strip is just plants.
[25:53]
And we see a lot of water-wise plants as
[25:56]
well as trees in the landscape.
[26:00]
The ordinance is is the first step to
[26:04]
letting residents become eligible for
[26:06]
this program. So, you adopt those
[26:08]
ordinances, and you send that to us for
[26:10]
review. And we work with you. It doesn't
[26:13]
cost the city anything to do this. Uh
[26:15]
and then we add you to our eligibility
[26:17]
list.
[26:18]
The role that you have is just upholding
[26:20]
those ordinances.
[26:22]
And how you enforce those is up to you.
[26:25]
And let's see. And program promotion,
[26:28]
you don't have to do that, but you're
[26:30]
welcome to if you want to promote the
[26:31]
program to your residents. Uh we
[26:34]
appreciate it. We think it's great. It's
[26:35]
a great water conservation tool. Uh and
[26:38]
then we are the ones that are running
[26:39]
this program. You don't have to do
[26:41]
anything. If people ask you questions,
[26:43]
you can direct them to us. Uh but
[26:45]
really, we're the ones that answer the
[26:46]
phone calls, we schedule appointments,
[26:48]
we process the applications, and we run
[26:51]
this entire program, and it's there's no
[26:53]
cost associated to the city itself.
[26:59]
These are some of our resources that we
[27:00]
have available for the participants. You
[27:02]
don't have to participate in the program
[27:04]
to be able to access these. These are
[27:06]
readily available on our website.
[27:08]
However, we do send uh customized emails
[27:11]
to participants, especially along the
[27:13]
way while they're doing their project,
[27:15]
to really support them throughout this
[27:17]
project as well as aftercare and the
[27:19]
maintenance of it because we don't want
[27:21]
people to go through the program and
[27:23]
then get frustrated when they are not
[27:24]
sure what to do once everything's
[27:26]
installed. So, we do have a landscape
[27:29]
guide
[27:30]
as well as a monthly webinar series. Uh
[27:34]
all of these are free. We do include a
[27:36]
landscape incentive program checklist of
[27:38]
what they need to do.
[27:40]
And we do have a statewide water wise
[27:42]
plant list available.
[27:44]
We are a Localscapes partner.
[27:47]
Localscapes is a partner education
[27:49]
program that provides It's the education
[27:51]
component to the landscape incentive
[27:52]
program.
[27:53]
Uh provides education for
[27:56]
water wise landscaping, and those
[27:59]
classes can be found either online, or
[28:01]
we will even work with you to provide it
[28:04]
to your community. So, we'll come to you
[28:06]
and teach a class completely free. Uh
[28:09]
and it's tailored to your region. So,
[28:12]
it's not Wasatch Front, it's for
[28:15]
Grantsville specifically.
[28:17]
And then we are a WaterSense EPA
[28:20]
WaterSense partner, and they do have a
[28:23]
fantastic certified irrigators list for
[28:26]
qualified water efficient landscapers
[28:29]
available.
[28:32]
This is all of our contact information.
[28:34]
If you have questions, specific
[28:36]
questions, we're happy to answer them.
[28:37]
Candace is the colleague I mentioned
[28:39]
that helps review these ordinances and
[28:41]
works side by side with the cities to be
[28:43]
able to get those in place. Madison is
[28:46]
our uh program coordinator over the
[28:49]
landscape incentive program.
[28:51]
>> [snorts]
[28:51]
>> Uh I help coordinate and teach our local
[28:54]
scape classes and develop those
[28:56]
landscape resources. And then our two
[28:58]
technicians help deliver the program and
[29:00]
process those applications. And our
[29:02]
contact information can be found there.
[29:04]
Are there any questions that I can
[29:07]
answer?
[29:09]
>> I have one little question. You You
[29:11]
mentioned no annuals.
[29:13]
So, if somebody has mostly perennials,
[29:17]
but they include some annuals, they're
[29:18]
out like you're out.
[29:20]
>> No, that. So, we just encourage
[29:23]
that annuals be planted either in their
[29:25]
own bed or in pots, not mixed in with
[29:29]
the perennials, but that won't
[29:30]
disqualify them from the program. Okay.
[29:32]
No, good question.
[29:34]
>> And does the ordinance just allow us to
[29:35]
participate in this if people want to?
[29:37]
It just says the ordinance would be
[29:38]
structured to say, if a citizen wanted
[29:40]
to, then our city would qualify and that
[29:42]
puts us the best It wouldn't be
[29:43]
mandatory for anybody to do this. It
[29:45]
would just be if they
[29:45]
>> No, the landscape incentive program is
[29:47]
the incentive piece. It's meant to
[29:50]
incentivize
[29:52]
properties that already exist, that
[29:54]
already have those landscapes. They are
[29:55]
not required to do this. It is not a
[29:59]
mandatory program by any means.
[30:02]
>> So, the ordinance would just be allowing
[30:03]
us then to participate.
[30:04]
>> Yeah, so the ordinances are for the new
[30:06]
construction only. We're trying not to
[30:09]
waste tax dollars as well as um
[30:13]
it's kind of like chasing our tail.
[30:15]
We're trying to fix a problem, but not
[30:17]
preventing the problem from happening
[30:18]
anymore. And so, we're trying to
[30:22]
uh reduce that uh inefficiency. So,
[30:25]
we're not creating new problems. Those
[30:27]
landscapes look great, they're
[30:28]
efficient, and then uh incentivizing the
[30:32]
existing landscapes to be more
[30:33]
efficient.
[30:35]
>> So, the incentive is just to for
[30:37]
clarification, the incentive is just for
[30:40]
existing landscapes, correct?
[30:41]
>> Yes, it only it is only for existing
[30:44]
landscapes. It is not for new
[30:46]
construction.
[30:46]
>> Okay.
[30:47]
>> Yeah, great question.
[30:51]
Any other questions or concerns that I
[30:53]
can address?
[30:58]
» No Heidi, thank you for being here. Um,
[31:01]
I we've had some residents express
[31:02]
interest in this and because we're not
[31:05]
on a on that, you know, we don't qualify
[31:07]
in that incentive.
[31:10]
They don't have the option to be able to
[31:11]
do this and so
[31:13]
the I mean obviously it it ought to be
[31:16]
the division of limited water quality,
[31:18]
you know, limited water because we live
[31:20]
in the fifth driest state in the nation.
[31:21]
So, but it
[31:23]
um, finding ways uh
[31:26]
to allow our residents to convert some
[31:28]
of that the some of those areas into an
[31:31]
and take it opportunity for this program
[31:33]
was the reason why
[31:35]
I wanted to when we wanted to see if the council would have interest in
[31:39]
doing that. What that means is, you
[31:41]
know, ensuring that
[31:43]
you know, the the we we align with those other four items that were listed
[31:47]
there if there was any concerns on
[31:49]
those. So
[31:50]
>> need to change our code
[31:52]
to align with that.
[31:54]
Uniquely Alexis had been working on
[31:57]
getting a draft that prepared for
[31:59]
council. So
[32:00]
Uh, Jay brought this up and our council
[32:02]
member
[32:03]
almost brought this up and so we thought
[32:05]
it would be a good idea before Alexis
[32:07]
got all the way through that process to gauge the interest was what council
[32:11]
wanted to do and take that direction.
[32:16]
» I think that's a good idea.
[32:17]
I think I like the education portion
[32:18]
too. I'm not a gardener at all. So like
[32:20]
when you say water wise, I don't even
[32:21]
know what that means. So I'm like so
[32:23]
having somebody to go like what would be
[32:24]
good here, what what what qualifies? I
[32:26]
think that's super helpful for people.
[32:28]
And yeah, I mean water's a big issue. So
[32:31]
>> is.
[32:32]
>> Do you go out to [clears throat]
[32:32]
different cities and do classes or all
[32:34]
webinar? city.
[32:35]
>> Um, we do an annual webinar, but we do
[32:38]
individual classes as needed. So, if you
[32:42]
would like one, I'm more than happy to
[32:44]
coordinate with you on one. Um, for
[32:46]
example, we're teaching one in Tooele on
[32:48]
Monday. You're welcome to come if you'd
[32:50]
like, see what it's about. Um,
[32:52]
and we're focusing on they wanted to
[32:55]
focus on native plants for Tooele County
[32:58]
specifically, so that's what we're
[32:59]
doing. Uh, so we're happy to curate or
[33:03]
uh
[33:04]
specialize the class to fit whatever
[33:06]
your residents and your community needs
[33:09]
are. We want to make sure that it's
[33:11]
impactful and a good use of everyone's
[33:13]
time.
[33:14]
>> Okay, right. The the city can with their
[33:17]
properties can participate in the
[33:18]
program.
[33:19]
>> Yes. Um, the parks cannot, the golf
[33:21]
courses cannot, but like this building
[33:23]
here, you could easily participate in
[33:25]
this program. Yes.
[33:28]
>> And there's other incentive programs as
[33:29]
well, like for I think they're I think I
[33:32]
did one
[33:33]
um, that was for uh electronic like a
[33:38]
smart
[33:39]
>> Yeah, the smart controllers.
[33:40]
>> controller
[33:40]
>> Those are available to anyone anytime.
[33:42]
You don't have to live in a specific
[33:44]
city to be able to do those. But yes, we
[33:46]
do offer a rebate of up to $125 for a
[33:50]
smart irrigation controller.
[33:52]
So, if you want a new irrigation
[33:54]
controller for your home, I highly
[33:55]
recommend it.
[33:59]
» What's that like council wanting to see
[34:01]
a draft and go forward on? So, I'll have
[34:03]
that.
[34:04]
>> I think so.
[34:05]
>> that application that change.
[34:07]
>> Okay.
[34:09]
Thank you.
[34:09]
>> Sounds great. Thank you so much for your
[34:10]
time.
[34:11]
>> Thank you. And thanks Jake for reaching
[34:13]
out to the Division of Water Resources and
[34:16]
getting this information for us.
[34:21]
All right.
[34:22]
Item number six is a council appeal
[34:25]
decision, consideration of resolution
[34:27]
2026-38
[34:30]
approving a driveway deviation for the
[34:32]
property located at 48 McMichael Avenue.
[34:38]
» Um, so this is a secondary access
[34:42]
property. So, McMichael is just kind of
[34:45]
it's east of Sinclair.
[34:47]
For those of you that don't know exactly
[34:49]
where that's at.
[34:50]
Um, [clears throat]
[34:51]
>> [sighs]
[34:52]
>> we received a application on March 20th
[34:54]
after the staff
[34:56]
reviewed it and we became aware of what
[34:58]
the original driveway used to look like.
[35:00]
And it was expanded without
[35:03]
um, city authorization,
[35:06]
um,
[35:06]
you know, then we just began to work
[35:08]
with the applicant. There was a
[35:09]
violation for the meter box. The
[35:11]
applicant
[35:12]
did a cut after we brought that to their
[35:15]
attention. They did cut the driveway um,
[35:18]
the two feet around two or three feet
[35:20]
around the meter that is required. Um,
[35:23]
so they have done that. We're just here
[35:25]
for city council to determine if they're
[35:28]
going to allow the driveway to stay
[35:29]
built how it is
[35:31]
or if they are going to require it to be
[35:34]
brought to city standards. So, a few
[35:36]
issues that we need to address. And if
[35:38]
you'll scroll down to the pictures.
[35:41]
There is a
[35:43]
pipe that runs underneath the driveway
[35:45]
cuz the driveway actually comes out
[35:47]
further than what the gutter is.
[35:51]
And um,
[35:53]
and so it is sized on the smaller side
[35:55]
of things and that was a concern of the
[35:57]
engineer and then there is a concern how
[35:59]
the driveway comes out um,
[36:03]
past the curb and gutter and it actually
[36:05]
comes out into the roadway.
[36:07]
A a maybe a few inches.
[36:10]
>> Sorry, it's
[36:11]
glitching.
[36:13]
>> You're fine. So, I did the same thing
[36:15]
yesterday.
[36:22]
So, keep going.
[36:25]
» This one?
[36:26]
>> Um, that's a good picture to of show the
[36:28]
overall view in the front edge, um, and
[36:30]
then just kind of how wide the driveway
[36:32]
is.
[36:33]
If you would keep scrolling.
[36:35]
Right there in those pictures.
[36:37]
So, you can see that's initially what
[36:39]
the, uh, water meter looked like. Again,
[36:41]
the applicant did cut that and and
[36:43]
address that situation and then scroll
[36:44]
down just to that bottom picture.
[36:47]
Yep. So, you can see how it comes past,
[36:50]
um,
[36:51]
the curb pan or the gutter pan.
[36:54]
I don't know if it's 4 to 6 in
[36:56]
and then you can see
[36:58]
>> slightly
[37:01]
Here, there's a water bottle blocking
[37:03]
it, but here is
[37:04]
that pipe.
[37:06]
And so, you can see what we're losing as
[37:08]
far as the capacity of that
[37:10]
curb cutter.
[37:20]
» [clears throat and cough]
[37:22]
>> And so, you can see what the driveway
[37:23]
originally looked like.
[37:25]
Um, and then it's expanded from the
[37:27]
walkway, uh, over to the property line
[37:30]
to the north.
[37:38]
» So, just
[37:40]
making sure I have it straight. They
[37:41]
sent in an application to the city
[37:44]
for this project, but we didn't realize
[37:46]
that
[37:47]
>> [clears throat]
[37:47]
>> it was going to be this large or it
[37:49]
didn't say on the application.
[37:50]
>> No, so, um, there was a violation
[37:53]
uh, with the water meter and then we've
[37:56]
asked to correct the water meter, then
[37:58]
there was a driveway issue and then the
[38:00]
applicant has been working with staff
[38:02]
with an application, but the issues are
[38:04]
that the driveway is expanding past the
[38:06]
curb the gutter pan, um, it has the the
[38:10]
smaller diameter pipe and then it
[38:11]
extends all the way to the north
[38:14]
along the property line.
[38:19]
So, if you scroll up, um, in the staff
[38:21]
report, we actually give the
[38:23]
[clears throat] timeline.
[38:24]
Keep going. Now, that's the violation.
[38:27]
Keep going.
[38:30]
One more, I believe.
[38:34]
Nope, keep going. Past the picture.
[38:38]
That one.
[38:39]
Nope, keep going. Sorry.
[38:41]
Keep going.
[38:44]
Right here. So, August 25th, 2025,
[38:48]
initial violation. November 13th, the
[38:51]
second violation. January 23rd, a
[38:53]
certified letter. March 3rd, a site
[38:56]
visit was conducted with the code
[38:58]
enforcement officer,
[38:59]
um,
[39:00]
and the property owner, and attempt to
[39:01]
contact the property owner.
[39:03]
Then, scroll down.
[39:06]
March 13th, the code enforcement officer
[39:08]
made contact with the property owner.
[39:10]
March 20th, the meter box was corrected
[39:13]
and the applicant submitted, um, for the
[39:16]
secondary driveway.
[39:18]
Um,
[39:19]
April 26th, the application was reviewed
[39:22]
by the department heads, and May 5th,
[39:24]
the applicant was notified that the
[39:25]
driveway secondary access did not meet
[39:28]
the requirements of the land use
[39:29]
ordinance, and needed to seek a
[39:31]
deviation through city council.
[39:36]
» So, Shabley, on this timeline in Michael
[39:38]
such an old road, how long has it been
[39:40]
like this?
[39:42]
When was the cement or the addition?
[39:45]
>> Um, the applicant is here and might be
[39:47]
able to answer that. I could look at
[39:49]
Google Earth and kind of give you a
[39:50]
timeline.
[39:57]
» Uh, I've noticed I've noticed these on
[39:59]
that street. There's actually more than
[40:01]
one, um,
[40:03]
that have this.
[40:05]
And Tooele has areas, older parts of
[40:07]
Tooele has this
[40:11]
>> [clears throat and cough]
[40:11]
>> where they have a really aggressive
[40:13]
gutter system near some
[40:15]
residential homes, and so they create a
[40:19]
um, um
[40:20]
a bridge essentially over that over that
[40:23]
gutter system.
[40:24]
The gutter system on McMichael is not
[40:26]
that deep. So, I
[40:29]
I'm not sure
[40:30]
what the purpose of those would be and
[40:33]
there are some concerns when you place
[40:35]
them in in that setting. I don't want to
[40:37]
get totally off topic here, but
[40:39]
um if if the water's not allowed to pass
[40:42]
there and it gets clogged up and it ends
[40:44]
up building in that area and then pushes
[40:46]
onto the roadway and it will ruin the asphalt in those areas
[40:52]
um
[40:53]
because the water's not, you know,
[40:55]
guttering as it should be. But is this
[40:57]
is an old this is an old street, so
[41:00]
um one of the
[41:03]
maybe the initial curb and gutters and
[41:04]
then we went away from it and then we've
[41:06]
gotten back to it, which was you know, I
[41:08]
don't know why we ever went away from
[41:09]
it. It's it's the best way to go if you can do
[41:13]
it. So, but this isn't the only home
[41:15]
that has that issue in that street. So,
[41:19]
I guess what we're looking at
[41:20]
specifically tonight is just the secondary access, correct?
[41:27]
>> Um
[41:28]
you're not [clears throat] looking at
[41:30]
>> the deviation of the driveway.
[41:31]
>> You're looking at he's expanded or they
[41:33]
have expanded the driveway
[41:35]
wider than what is allowed per our code.
[41:38]
So, you're looking at that seeing if
[41:39]
you're going to allow that deviation.
[41:41]
They are
[41:43]
right up against the property line and
[41:45]
so they have um expanded expanded that,
[41:49]
which is against the code.
[41:51]
Then the pipe sizing wasn't um you know,
[41:53]
engineered or looked at to determine if
[41:55]
that was the correct pipe size.
[41:58]
And so it just doesn't meet
[42:02]
city standards.
[42:04]
>> I mean, if you look at the original
[42:05]
photo
[42:06]
it has the bridge out to the road too
[42:07]
and it doesn't even look like there's
[42:09]
>> Yeah, it looks better in the ground too
[42:10]
than it does
[42:12]
>> original.
[42:14]
>> [clears throat]
[42:14]
>> The problem is is that that will divert
[42:17]
the water into the road. And when the
[42:19]
water goes into the road, it'll start
[42:20]
tearing the earth.
[42:22]
Getting into the asphalt and it cause
[42:24]
more repair damage.
[42:26]
>> Yeah, I mean I get that, but I'm looking
[42:27]
at like the original and it looks like
[42:29]
it's
[42:30]
built.
[42:31]
Yeah, you can see that on that top
[42:32]
photo.
[42:34]
>> to me it probably I mean I I think it
[42:37]
was done this way not not because of the
[42:39]
depth of the gutter. It was probably
[42:40]
done this way cuz it was like
[42:42]
I've got a curb there and rather than
[42:43]
just cut the curb
[42:46]
rather than just cut the curbs on these
[42:48]
is like we built a ramp over the curb,
[42:50]
which
[42:51]
um
[42:55]
» Yeah.
[42:56]
>> what should be done.
[42:59]
» And I mean elevations and you know, it
[43:01]
may have been too steep. It's a pretty
[43:02]
steep
[43:04]
uh driveway.
[43:05]
Um
[43:07]
you know, elevations may have been
[43:08]
difficult to kind of get that that
[43:10]
transition.
[43:13]
» So when they remodeled this a a permit
[43:15]
should have been pulled.
[43:16]
>> Correct.
[43:18]
>> So what's that permit process? Is there
[43:20]
a concept presented to you guys? Is
[43:22]
there how how does that work? Cuz I see
[43:24]
this is coming to us more often in
[43:26]
planning commission, too. These second
[43:28]
driveways I don't know if it's just cuz
[43:29]
we have the code enforcement officer
[43:30]
now, but we're seeing more and more of
[43:32]
these.
[43:33]
So
[43:35]
kind of tell me what that process is and
[43:36]
then too, what can we do to prevent
[43:40]
>> Education.
[43:41]
>> these yeah, it will to keep from coming
[43:43]
to us every week every two weeks.
[43:45]
>> No, absolutely. So um if someone wants
[43:47]
to widen their driveway or or expand it
[43:49]
or have a secondary access, they can
[43:51]
either call in um or they can apply
[43:54]
online and they'll submit it can be a
[43:56]
hand drawn um site plan. Typically
[43:59]
Nicole or I will jump on um you know,
[44:01]
Google Earth screenshot and put it into
[44:03]
Bluebeam so that we can um
[44:05]
draw out the site plan and and measure
[44:07]
it and scale it. Um after we've done
[44:10]
that and payment has been received and
[44:12]
we review this every Thursday. So, right
[44:15]
away permits, secondary accesses, things
[44:16]
like that, every Thursday.
[44:18]
Um we'll review [clears throat] it.
[44:20]
We'll determine if it meets code. If
[44:21]
changes need to be made, we'll send
[44:23]
those comments back to the applicant and
[44:25]
then they determine okay, we will adjust
[44:28]
that um portion of the driveway or we
[44:30]
want to come to council to ask for a
[44:33]
deviation.
[44:34]
And a lot of times um
[44:37]
they would like to just come to council
[44:39]
and ask for the deviation.
[44:45]
So, we do have driveway standards. Um
[44:48]
you know, with chapter six, I did revise
[44:49]
them, so they were
[44:51]
a little easier to read and understand
[44:52]
and it spelled it out of what we need
[44:54]
and um the approval process.
[44:57]
Um we are working on um getting
[45:00]
community and development a Facebook so
[45:02]
that we can post consistently of hey,
[45:05]
you know, if you want to expand your
[45:07]
driveway or you want a secondary access,
[45:08]
you need to follow these steps. Here's
[45:10]
the link.
[45:11]
Or you know, hey, this is the code
[45:13]
enforcement for weeds.
[45:15]
Things like that.
[45:19]
» We got a comment and a question.
[45:21]
>> Is that the applicant?
[45:26]
» Hi.
[45:27]
state your name, please.
[45:28]
>> I'm Antonio Vargas.
[45:30]
>> Thank you.
[45:30]
>> I'm the resident from 48 Michael.
[45:33]
Actually, before I did the driveway
[45:36]
I asked
[45:37]
uh
[45:39]
What's his name? Uh
[45:40]
Perkins. The
[45:43]
uh
[45:45]
>> Lyle.
[45:46]
Perkins. The
[45:48]
I said, "Did I need a permit to put in
[45:50]
my driveway?"
[45:52]
You know, he said
[45:54]
"No, I don't think you need a permit. Go
[45:56]
ahead, do it."
[45:58]
I asked for a permit if I needed a
[45:59]
permit before I did it.
[46:01]
And now I don't see what is wrong with
[46:03]
the driveway.
[46:04]
She said it was bottle clogging the
[46:07]
line.
[46:08]
I put a big 4-in pipe. You can see all
[46:11]
the neighbors
[46:12]
to the south, it's all garbage in it in
[46:15]
the gutters.
[46:17]
It's that a quarter is going to clock
[46:19]
it. I If they don't clean it,
[46:22]
walk to the neighborhood and watch how
[46:24]
dirty they are.
[46:26]
I'm not going to throw the
[46:29]
you know, blame on people, but
[46:32]
what's wrong with the driveway?
[46:35]
I asked the neighbor if I can put the
[46:36]
fence
[46:37]
over the driveway.
[46:40]
I didn't do it just because I want to do
[46:42]
it.
[46:46]
I said we're going to benefit your
[46:48]
property and my property. And I didn't
[46:50]
ask him for money or anything. I asked
[46:52]
for permission to pick and do it.
[46:58]
If you will see
[46:59]
when your dad house was built,
[47:02]
it was built in 1954.
[47:04]
You bring the code from that time to
[47:06]
this time.
[47:08]
Apply the code. But back in that days,
[47:10]
they didn't have any code.
[47:15]
» I think the the concern of the issue is
[47:18]
obviously when you lengthen the
[47:19]
driveway, when you lengthen that
[47:21]
driveway, you're creating
[47:23]
less distance between drive to drive.
[47:27]
And it creates a safety issue. This is a
[47:28]
through road. Um
[47:31]
>> But I see people that have water meters
[47:33]
in their driveways.
[47:36]
And then, are you guys going to make
[47:37]
everybody do that?
[47:39]
>> Yeah, they're not allowed in the
[47:40]
right-of-way.
[47:40]
>> See, it's the same same thing. They
[47:43]
asked They sent me letters to
[47:45]
They didn't send it to me.
[47:47]
They sent it to the previous owner. They
[47:49]
didn't connect the One of the officers
[47:51]
went and knocked my door. It was kind of
[47:53]
mean, like a why you not answer my my
[47:57]
uh
[47:58]
that I I send it to you say when you
[48:00]
send it. I went to the post office they
[48:02]
didn't receive any letters from from me.
[48:07]
I'm not doing anything illegal. I try
[48:09]
[clears throat] to do everything legal.
[48:12]
» No, I think when this happens it it
[48:14]
>> What is you know, I am proving the
[48:16]
house. The only thing I do anything.
[48:19]
I don't know anything wrong with the
[48:20]
house.
[48:22]
I try to do the best I can have my house
[48:24]
looking good the way I want it look. I
[48:27]
don't want to have a trash home. I want
[48:28]
to clean my clean house.
[48:31]
Go drive around the neighborhood check
[48:32]
the neighbors.
[48:35]
I can show you picture I have a neighbor
[48:37]
behind me.
[48:39]
I have to weed as best as I all the time
[48:41]
because
[48:43]
rats
[48:44]
everything comes to my property.
[48:49]
Are you guys going to do that? Check the
[48:51]
neighborhood.
[48:53]
And see how that looks like.
[48:56]
I don't want to put fingers on anybody.
[49:00]
The only thing I do on
[49:02]
to have a nice driveway I can park my
[49:04]
car because I want to park on the
[49:06]
street.
[49:09]
» How wide is the drive How wide is How
[49:10]
wide is the width of the drive that
[49:12]
we're looking at?
[49:13]
>> I believe it was 41 ft. There's a
[49:15]
picture of measurements.
[49:21]
» Even I ask Lyle if I can pull them a
[49:23]
little come over to the side so you can
[49:26]
pass a little ramp with a small car so
[49:28]
probably hit in the front.
[49:32]
» You can go to another second picture.
[49:34]
Approximately 41 ft has expanded.
[49:50]
» Did you say the pipe wasn't the
[49:51]
appropriate size?
[49:52]
>> It's the proper size. I see pipes as
[49:54]
more than my pipe is a 4-in pipe.
[49:55]
>> Well, what I'm saying per city code, is
[49:57]
it big enough?
[49:58]
>> It would need to be engineered to
[50:00]
determine how big it needs to be.
[50:01]
>> I I put a different size in the other ones that
[50:05]
along the the road. I see the other ones
[50:08]
are little pipes. And then the the funny
[50:10]
part, every time it rains, I have to be
[50:12]
cleaning all the debris that comes from
[50:14]
the other neighbors cuz they clocks the
[50:16]
lines.
[50:17]
>> Okay,
[50:18]
yeah, to that one. Uh
[50:20]
yeah, and then scroll down to the back
[50:21]
of the back of the house.
[50:21]
>> I think honestly, our biggest concern
[50:24]
really
[50:24]
>> Is that last piece.
[50:26]
>> It is this
[50:27]
section here.
[50:28]
>> Yeah.
[50:29]
>> Really, it sticks out for the potential
[50:30]
to catch that.
[50:31]
>> Well, you can Yeah, you can see what
[50:33]
it's doing to the asphalt, right? I
[50:35]
mean, that's exactly what I was just
[50:36]
explaining. It's that that area you can
[50:39]
see
[50:40]
>> The original the other the other section
[50:41]
on the other side, they used to be that
[50:43]
over there. I didn't if they was already
[50:45]
that way.
[50:46]
So, the only thing I did is add into the
[50:50]
to it.
[50:51]
was already there, the other side.
[50:53]
You can see the the partial part over
[50:55]
there in the other side.
[50:58]
See, the the reason I put it that way
[50:59]
because there was the rocks.
[51:01]
You step on the rocks, you twist your
[51:03]
ankles.
[51:05]
Just the Just look at pictures before
[51:08]
and and after.
[51:15]
» [clears throat and cough]
[51:17]
>> I asked the neighbor if I can put in my driveway
[51:22]
along the property line and I can put a
[51:25]
fence on top because my I had to put it
[51:30]
you know, get cars in the back.
[51:42]
It is you will see at the other section
[51:44]
will be the same thing but it's on this
[51:46]
side, they had the same size pipe. I
[51:48]
have a 4-in pipe.
[51:50]
The only thing that the thing is like
[51:51]
all the stuff right there because it
[51:53]
comes when it rains, there comes this
[51:55]
way and everything all that I have to go
[51:57]
and then start cleaning all the debris
[51:58]
because you can see bushes all over
[52:00]
along the side. Just from my property to
[52:02]
the south, check every neighbor and see
[52:04]
if they Oh, how all those weeds growing
[52:07]
in the in the in the gutters.
[52:12]
Because all the rocks and everything
[52:14]
from the neighbors come through and it
[52:15]
clogs the lines.
[52:18]
» Shelby, what would what would need to be
[52:19]
done to make it to code? Like what would have to rip it out completely
[52:23]
or what would be a remedy?
[52:24]
>> No, I mean a a remedy would be to um
[52:29]
you know
[52:30]
to to make it to meet code, yeah, he
[52:32]
would have to rip out 6 ft uh
[52:36]
>> On your side?
[52:41]
» Oh, go back to
[52:44]
You have to rip out like 6 ft here just
[52:47]
on this panel
[52:48]
uh to meet the code. So, 6 ft away and
[52:52]
then just
[52:53]
to fix it. He'd probably have to in
[52:56]
order to
[52:56]
>> They have a bigger driveway over where
[52:58]
they have the dog take care over there
[52:59]
in the corner.
[53:01]
What's what's the difference?
[53:02]
>> He had probably pull out this panel and
[53:04]
then
[53:05]
shorten it to get the whole
[53:07]
to meet this.
[53:10]
Or what you would have to do instead of
[53:13]
cutting this and then patching this but
[53:14]
that you wouldn't want just like a
[53:16]
little patch here. You would
[53:18]
typically bring that asphalt patch all
[53:20]
the way out. If you just patch that, 4
[53:22]
to 6 in is going to blow out.
[53:24]
>> I can put it something over there and if
[53:26]
they want it
[53:28]
I's not they want to do it.
[53:37]
I do want to see more sessions in this
[53:40]
to the other side. The same thing is the
[53:42]
pipe is smaller than my pipe.
[53:45]
It's not the point that you know the
[53:46]
water doesn't have any way to go. The
[53:49]
thing is all the debris from the that
[53:51]
comes from
[53:53]
the neighbors they start coming this way
[53:55]
and then clog the lines.
[53:58]
It's not because that's the guy all the leaves and everything that clogs
[54:01]
because they don't pick the leaves.
[54:04]
I've been cleaning all the time. Go wash
[54:06]
right now. I tried [clears throat] every
[54:08]
week to clean it.
[54:11]
I tried cleaning it but the others don't
[54:13]
clean it. It's going to It's going to
[54:14]
do.
[54:19]
» Yeah, it is a very narrow gutter system
[54:21]
on that street anyway, that's for sure.
[54:24]
And having the extra driveway I realize
[54:27]
it's 6 ft too long but I travel this
[54:29]
road often and
[54:32]
all the cars on the road are very
[54:35]
It's hard to navigate down McMichael
[54:37]
when
[54:38]
there's cars parked on both sides of the
[54:40]
street. So having an extra place for
[54:43]
vehicles to be off the street is
[54:47]
very advantageous on that narrow road.
[54:49]
>> on the street because you know they have
[54:51]
the snow plow trucks and mail
[54:54]
and on the [clears throat] street I
[54:56]
don't want to be you know mail guy get
[54:58]
pissed off because they
[55:00]
blocking the mailbox.
[55:03]
>> Could you scroll down the page 18?
[55:09]
» [clears throat]
[55:11]
» Just go
[55:13]
opposite view you can see the
[55:15]
pipe in there. It's looks bigger on this
[55:16]
end than it does that other end but
[55:21]
» As soon as it comes out we'll see.
[55:23]
>> [laughter]
[55:24]
>> I'm sorry.
[55:34]
Waste of time.
[55:36]
Yeah.
[55:37]
>> yeah.
[55:41]
» This whole thing is going to blow.
[55:45]
We definitely built him.
[55:48]
Thank you.
[56:09]
» [clears throat]
[56:12]
» And we have a legal driveways all over
[56:13]
town.
[56:15]
>> Yeah, well, there's
[56:17]
the house above that one has the same
[56:19]
issue.
[56:20]
Um
[56:21]
so I that's the frustrating part is it's
[56:24]
like almost like this street just
[56:26]
decided to kind of just roll however we
[56:28]
wanted to roll. And I know it's they're much older homes.
[56:32]
But
[56:33]
like the home above also has [snorts] their drive and then they
[56:39]
have like a spot where they park a truck
[56:41]
that's
[56:44]
» Correct.
[56:44]
>> also
[56:46]
>> Yeah, no, you you are correct. And
[56:47]
that's the hard part is
[56:49]
>> So
[56:50]
>> is in 2015 that was already established
[56:53]
versus in 2004, 2005-ish when this was
[56:57]
when that driveway was expanded, that's
[56:59]
when our code was into effect. So yeah,
[57:01]
you're going to see driveways that are
[57:03]
legal non-conforming
[57:05]
versus driveways newer driveways that
[57:07]
now we're catching going, "Hey, we need
[57:09]
to follow the process." And it is it is
[57:11]
hard.
[57:12]
>> I didn't I didn't know the driveway guys
[57:14]
to do it.
[57:15]
I asked Leo if I need a permit.
[57:18]
>> No, I I
[57:19]
>> And he say, "You don't need a permit." I
[57:21]
was so happy. I say, "Okay, I can throw
[57:23]
it in and no problem." I It's not because I don't
[57:26]
want to pay for the permit.
[57:29]
You know, I'm more than willing to pay
[57:31]
for the permit, but you know, after work
[57:33]
they come and say, "No, you can't have
[57:35]
your
[57:39]
You know, this patch of the you know
[57:41]
>> If it's placed how it should be placed,
[57:43]
you know, in a in a new build, they
[57:45]
don't need a permit. They just have to
[57:46]
follow the format that it needs to be built within.
[57:52]
And this is this is kind of a different
[57:54]
situation. So, I can see kind of how
[57:56]
that communication work can take place.
[57:59]
The issue here is and I guess the
[58:00]
question I have for you Antonio is more
[58:04]
Um we need to you know, come
[58:07]
obviously it looks like you're using all
[58:09]
of those um
[58:10]
spaces and coming straight out. How that
[58:13]
should have been designed or developed
[58:15]
is narrowed and then opening that up to
[58:18]
allow you to to pull in and I can tell you tried to make it
[58:23]
better and
[58:25]
>> I don't What you say it's wrong with the
[58:26]
driveway is you know
[58:29]
I don't have no
[58:30]
more no rocks.
[58:32]
No weeds, nothing, you know.
[58:34]
>> Yeah, the the concern that I'll and I
[58:36]
kind of mentioned at the start the
[58:37]
concern I have is that when we do that
[58:39]
like it just
[58:41]
it creates areas. There's there's
[58:44]
designations for where, you know, if someone driving down that street
[58:48]
they're having to constantly
[58:51]
you know
[58:53]
you could have multiple vehicles pulling out in the same area
[58:56]
and that's why there's you know, that's
[58:58]
why planning designates those driveways
[59:01]
and there's separations and separation
[59:03]
factors in those driveways. It's for
[59:05]
it's a safety
[59:06]
>> Yeah, they tell it like when you have a
[59:07]
separation of the driveways with a heavy
[59:10]
vehicle it's possible that the
[59:13]
concrete can
[59:14]
crack and falls down because the water
[59:16]
can go underneath.
[59:18]
So, that one over there the water don't
[59:20]
go to the neighbor, it comes all the way
[59:22]
to the street. I have like a little
[59:24]
uh
[59:25]
curb right there so the water comes all
[59:28]
the way to the street. That's it goes to
[59:29]
the neighbor.
[59:31]
I put in that purpose. I don't want to
[59:32]
throw water to the to the neighbors.
[59:35]
Come into this still my property.
[59:37]
Every time the rain is comes all the way
[59:40]
down to the street. Doesn't go to the
[59:42]
neighbor.
[59:43]
It's not affecting anything to the
[59:45]
neighbor. I know people likes to do that
[59:47]
to the neighbors. Throw the water to the
[59:48]
neighbor, but I try to prevent from
[59:51]
having issues with the neighbor.
[59:55]
So, this put is strong. This is a lot of
[59:58]
money invested in that driveway. It's
[1:00:01]
not one penny.
[1:00:06]
And then you can see it's occupied. It's
[1:00:09]
not empty.
[1:00:14]
» Do you have something you'd like to say,
[1:00:16]
Ben?
[1:00:21]
» Ben Henderson, Evansville Street
[1:00:23]
Department super- uh supervisor.
[1:00:26]
I see a lot of potential for number one,
[1:00:29]
when we're doing pushback with snow
[1:00:30]
plows,
[1:00:32]
that's going to chip. It's That driveway
[1:00:34]
is not going to stay in that condition.
[1:00:36]
Our plows are going to get damaged when
[1:00:37]
we do pushback into the curb.
[1:00:39]
And if there's 3 ft of snow and you
[1:00:41]
don't see that, you're going to eat a
[1:00:42]
windshield, I promise you. And if you've
[1:00:44]
ever been plowing and you hit something
[1:00:46]
that hard and that abrupt,
[1:00:49]
it's it
[1:00:50]
lodges you from your seat
[1:00:52]
and it will chip the driveway. So,
[1:00:55]
um if in a in a sense
[1:00:59]
on a legal side, which I don't I'm not
[1:01:02]
an attorney, but he's accepting the
[1:01:04]
right
[1:01:05]
to any liability
[1:01:08]
in the in our right-of-way
[1:01:10]
by doing extending his driveway into our
[1:01:12]
right-of-way.
[1:01:14]
That's my
[1:01:15]
>> Thank you.
[1:01:18]
» This might be a really dumb question,
[1:01:20]
but is there some type of code,
[1:01:22]
ordinance, law, something that says
[1:01:24]
they're grandfathered in?
[1:01:26]
Like
[1:01:28]
>> So, yes.
[1:01:28]
>> protects the the property owner?
[1:01:31]
>> Legal non-conforming use. So, if if that
[1:01:33]
driveway was in existence
[1:01:35]
in the 1950s, for example, like
[1:01:38]
I think that's what was mentioned. Um
[1:01:40]
that [clears throat] use or that that
[1:01:41]
non-conforming uh building um style, the
[1:01:47]
engineering of that curve that was
[1:01:48]
allowed in the '50s could remain. The only condition there though is that
[1:01:54]
you you cannot expand that use. You can
[1:01:56]
maintain it, um but to to expand that
[1:02:00]
use would would uh
[1:02:02]
would
[1:02:03]
remove the the grandfathered status, if
[1:02:06]
that's the word. So, it no longer be a
[1:02:08]
legal non-conforming use. It'd just be
[1:02:09]
non-conforming.
[1:02:11]
>> Okay.
[1:02:17]
» Yeah, I understand it's difficult to try
[1:02:18]
and have to remove something after
[1:02:19]
you've already done it, but I was just
[1:02:21]
>> a It was an existing situation already
[1:02:22]
like that,
[1:02:24]
you know. So, it'll be it will create a
[1:02:26]
issue with a snow plow. It should have
[1:02:28]
been issued a long time ago, not
[1:02:30]
recently.
[1:02:32]
And it's And it's it's a more neighbor
[1:02:34]
to have the same thing.
[1:02:34]
>> I'm sorry.
[1:02:35]
>> Is it a 6-in highback curb? It's not
[1:02:37]
taller than It's It's not an atypical
[1:02:40]
curb, is it?
[1:02:40]
>> No.
[1:02:41]
>> It's an old facing.
[1:02:42]
>> Yeah, it's something that's probably a
[1:02:43]
6-in back curb. I might be a four
[1:02:46]
by the looks of it. It's an older style.
[1:02:50]
It was a highback with a short pan.
[1:02:53]
>> I don't see any reason to cut to carry over the gutter. I like
[1:02:59]
to I there's other areas in which it's happened on that street,
[1:03:03]
and I'm not sure
[1:03:05]
why because it's it's a typical curb.
[1:03:08]
You could just cut the curb down
[1:03:10]
and pour your drive approach into the
[1:03:12]
back of the curb like you would
[1:03:13]
typically do.
[1:03:15]
And I appreciate Ben bringing up the
[1:03:17]
that that point specifically.
[1:03:19]
You'll have a snow plow catch the edge
[1:03:21]
of that and that guy will be in his
[1:03:22]
front yard. So, um
[1:03:26]
you know, there's a reason why
[1:03:29]
drives end at the back of the curb and
[1:03:31]
not carry into the street. So
[1:03:33]
>> I I how that one I hit it when this they
[1:03:35]
have cars parked on the street. If
[1:03:37]
somebody come and park on the street,
[1:03:39]
the cars will be in the middle of the
[1:03:40]
street.
[1:03:42]
Cuz they
[1:03:42]
>> a different issue though. I mean, cars
[1:03:44]
parked on the
[1:03:45]
>> Because if they have car car both sizes,
[1:03:48]
this snow plow has going to hit that
[1:03:49]
one.
[1:03:55]
» But we're not I I might be off on this,
[1:03:58]
but we're not saying
[1:04:00]
that we can make him redo the whole
[1:04:02]
frontage.
[1:04:04]
It's only the new part. It's only the
[1:04:08]
>> Yeah. So, there's still going to be a
[1:04:10]
bridge there.
[1:04:13]
So, so we're going to hit it with the
[1:04:15]
plow
[1:04:17]
with 6 ft later.
[1:04:21]
» Correct.
[1:04:23]
>> Yeah.
[1:04:24]
>> I haven't seen one year one of the snow
[1:04:26]
plow.
[1:04:27]
>> I I know.
[1:04:28]
>> Yeah, we haven't used those.
[1:04:30]
We don't use those anymore.
[1:04:33]
>> I just think my concern is that it sets
[1:04:35]
precedent. If everybody is just like
[1:04:36]
we're going to do a deviation, you know,
[1:04:37]
they do something and then we're
[1:04:38]
granting deviations, it sets precedent
[1:04:40]
for and and I I know that's it's hard
[1:04:42]
when somebody already does it to say fix
[1:04:44]
it.
[1:04:45]
>> I I think the biggest point is the
[1:04:47]
education. Um like we need to have a way
[1:04:51]
to educate people to understand the
[1:04:53]
process and the reasons for the the
[1:04:56]
regulations, but I
[1:04:57]
>> I I asked for the permit.
[1:04:58]
>> I I know you did.
[1:04:59]
>> Okay, they will say don't do it this
[1:05:01]
way, don't I will not do it.
[1:05:02]
>> Yeah.
[1:05:03]
>> Honestly, but they told me
[1:05:05]
>> They told you no.
[1:05:06]
>> you don't need it. So, you know, it's
[1:05:08]
not like I did it something that
[1:05:10]
breaking the law or anything.
[1:05:11]
>> No, we understand that.
[1:05:13]
>> that.
[1:05:14]
>> Yeah.
[1:05:15]
>> I I
[1:05:16]
My thought is I I'm going to recommend
[1:05:18]
to possible table this because I think
[1:05:20]
we have a more complicated issue on that
[1:05:22]
roadway. I think it probably leads to
[1:05:25]
maybe I would like [snorts] to
[1:05:27]
investigate it a little bit more.
[1:05:29]
I noticed this
[1:05:31]
actually for the first time this year,
[1:05:33]
but not when it was brought up on this issue
[1:05:36]
specifically when I drove up the street
[1:05:38]
and I was like that that is weird that
[1:05:39]
you have
[1:05:41]
if concrete coming into our roadways and
[1:05:44]
I noticed and I actually didn't notice
[1:05:46]
yours, but I noticed the home up where
[1:05:48]
the where it does have smaller pipes.
[1:05:50]
They're like 1-in maybe diameter inch
[1:05:52]
and a quarter diameter. They looked that. They may have been
[1:05:55]
bigger. I don't know, but
[1:05:56]
um
[1:05:58]
>> Now, when they they sent me uh like
[1:06:00]
three letters to
[1:06:02]
cut like 2-ft diameter around my meter
[1:06:06]
box.
[1:06:07]
And I see like three or four down the
[1:06:10]
road in the same situation.
[1:06:13]
>> But you don't see any new homes with
[1:06:16]
that same problem.
[1:06:17]
>> I They do, but they have to put metal
[1:06:20]
>> Correct, or they have to remove them.
[1:06:22]
>> Right. Uh-huh.
[1:06:23]
>> Or they have to
[1:06:23]
>> But I most of the they I'm doing town
[1:06:25]
homes over in 12th Ave. They meters
[1:06:29]
right in the driveway.
[1:06:31]
But they put in metal collar in it. So
[1:06:33]
it make it strong so that it'll
[1:06:35]
expand.
[1:06:36]
>> But I do think we need a solution for
[1:06:38]
the whole street. Um
[1:06:40]
>> I think this one's a little more
[1:06:41]
>> This yeah, this is not just one house. I remember it was probably gone, but I
[1:06:47]
need to There used to be one
[1:06:50]
There was a big speed bump.
[1:06:54]
>> Yeah.
[1:06:55]
there is one that's um that's
[1:06:57]
metal. There's a great There's a one
[1:06:59]
that's a
[1:07:00]
like a cast aluminum or a cast
[1:07:04]
Yeah, you know, that's a metal ramp. Um
[1:07:08]
But I Yeah, I mean my This is That's
[1:07:10]
where I feel. I feel like there's more to this one that probably
[1:07:14]
needs additional discussion. But that's
[1:07:16]
my thought.
[1:07:25]
» You want to make a motion for that,
[1:07:27]
Chase?
[1:07:27]
>> Yeah, Mayor, I make a motion we move to
[1:07:29]
table
[1:07:32]
uh resolution 2026-38
[1:07:35]
approving a driveway deviation for the
[1:07:37]
property located on 48 MacMichael Avenue
[1:07:40]
until Council has an opportunity to
[1:07:42]
thoroughly review that street.
[1:07:44]
>> We have a motion to table item number
[1:07:47]
six. Is there a second?
[1:07:48]
>> I'll second.
[1:07:49]
>> A second by Council member Dalton. All
[1:07:51]
in favor.
[1:07:52]
>> Aye.
[1:07:54]
>> Do you have any direction for staff to
[1:07:56]
on this far as what you're wanting to us
[1:07:58]
to investigate or you're wanting to do
[1:08:00]
your own investigations?
[1:08:02]
>> And I was going to ask you I mean I'm
[1:08:04]
sure you guys have talked about the
[1:08:05]
whole street.
[1:08:07]
I mean is it only
[1:08:10]
Never mind. I'll shut up. What are your
[1:08:12]
visions for the whole street?
[1:08:14]
>> Yeah, I mean there's the it needs to be
[1:08:16]
built out. You can see that we're
[1:08:17]
missing the sidewalk on that side and
[1:08:19]
things like that. So,
[1:08:21]
um
[1:08:22]
I mean we can go back we can hopefully
[1:08:24]
find the construction plans from this
[1:08:26]
older um
[1:08:27]
development and and see what we can find
[1:08:29]
and
[1:08:30]
why
[1:08:31]
a lot of them have these overhead
[1:08:33]
driveways and
[1:08:36]
Yeah.
[1:08:40]
» So,
[1:08:40]
>> Mr. Mayor,
[1:08:41]
>> I just wanted to say for the record we
[1:08:42]
don't typically require building permits
[1:08:44]
for flat work on property. So, if this
[1:08:47]
had been compliant with the rest of the
[1:08:50]
curb cut requirements and other things,
[1:08:52]
there would have been no problem. Um you
[1:08:54]
can pave your entire
[1:08:56]
your lot if you want to
[1:08:58]
and no permit is required. The The
[1:09:01]
problem is the stuff between the top
[1:09:04]
back of curb and the road and how he's
[1:09:06]
cut into the road and that's where we
[1:09:08]
get into a problem. The flat work that
[1:09:10]
and Lyle, if you approach Lyle and said,
[1:09:12]
"Do I need a permit for a driveway?" The
[1:09:14]
answer is no. That's flat work. We don't
[1:09:16]
require a permit for that. But where we
[1:09:18]
do is the curb cut and the work in our
[1:09:20]
right-of-way. So, I just wanted to
[1:09:22]
clarify that.
[1:09:23]
>> Yeah, and that's where the confusion
[1:09:24]
came in, it sounds like.
[1:09:26]
>> I asked Lyle for I said, "Do I need a
[1:09:28]
pool pipe for the water to go out?" Of
[1:09:30]
course I said, "Just put a 1-in
[1:09:32]
big pipe to work."
[1:09:34]
It's not like
[1:09:35]
you know, I didn't put anything. Yeah. I
[1:09:37]
asked him if I could put a pipe in and
[1:09:39]
said, "Yes, I put a pipe."
[1:09:41]
So, I put a big pipe in and I said, "My
[1:09:44]
My pipe is bigger than the old pipes I
[1:09:46]
have."
[1:09:49]
Kettle, the only thing you know, it's
[1:09:50]
going to clog because of all the debris
[1:09:52]
that comes in and it's not cleaning the gutters.
[1:09:55]
>> Yeah.
[1:09:55]
>> No, I mean
[1:09:57]
the reason for the gutter is not to have
[1:09:59]
a pipe
[1:10:01]
so it doesn't clog at all.
[1:10:03]
That's the reason for the gutter.
[1:10:04]
>> But there's all kinds of problems.
[1:10:05]
>> running water system
[1:10:07]
>> on McMichael.
[1:10:08]
>> But there there are. So, I Yeah, I think
[1:10:10]
Okay. Thank you.
[1:10:11]
>> So, we will take a look at that
[1:10:13]
situation on on your street and see the
[1:10:15]
best way to address it and then we'll
[1:10:17]
move forward.
[1:10:18]
Thank you.
[1:10:22]
Okay, item number seven
[1:10:24]
is a consideration of resolution 2026-39
[1:10:27]
approving a proposed amendment to the
[1:10:30]
Kenneth Fosson subdivision and approving
[1:10:33]
the commercial final plat application
[1:10:35]
for Holiday Oil located at approximately
[1:10:38]
794 East Main Street in the CG zoning
[1:10:41]
district.
[1:10:42]
>> Hey, how are you guys?
[1:10:43]
>> Great.
[1:10:45]
>> [laughter]
[1:10:46]
>> Um this one is exciting. So, we're we're
[1:10:49]
doing two things here. We're amending
[1:10:50]
the Kenneth Fosson subdivision and we're
[1:10:52]
approving
[1:10:54]
the commercial plat for Holiday Oil. Um
[1:10:56]
if you'll scroll um, we we can kind of
[1:11:00]
go here. So, this is in the CG
[1:11:02]
uh zoning uh for Holiday Oil. It's right
[1:11:04]
there on the corner adjacent to Maverick
[1:11:06]
on 794 East Main Street. Um, if you want
[1:11:10]
to scroll down. So, we we're taking this
[1:11:12]
from, if I recall, four three or four
[1:11:14]
parcels and we are turning it into um
[1:11:18]
two parcels.
[1:11:20]
So, three parcels here and then if you
[1:11:22]
scroll down one more.
[1:11:25]
Maybe go up one.
[1:11:28]
I- into two parcels. So, the they will
[1:11:30]
stay there. Have access.
[1:11:32]
>> [laughter]
[1:11:34]
>> They'll have There'll be a easement
[1:11:36]
access here
[1:11:38]
um and then access here as well. And so,
[1:11:41]
you'll see these uh easements in favor
[1:11:43]
of lot one and two and then easement in
[1:11:46]
favor of lot one and two as well.
[1:11:48]
>> Yep.
[1:11:52]
» Um, and then if you want to scroll down
[1:11:55]
one more, please. So, you can see oh, go
[1:11:57]
up one.
[1:11:59]
You can see they've done the truck route
[1:12:00]
to show um how traffic would flow. You
[1:12:03]
have Holiday Oil. You have the underground fuel tanks. You
[1:12:10]
have Holiday the the um fuel pumps. You
[1:12:14]
have the
[1:12:15]
RV dump.
[1:12:17]
The store uh with a drive-thru and then
[1:12:19]
you have the car wash here. And then
[1:12:21]
here's the two accesses.
[1:12:23]
And then if you want to scroll down
[1:12:24]
again.
[1:12:26]
And so, this is just kind of a cleaner
[1:12:27]
overall um landscape picture. So, we got
[1:12:30]
trees. Um, it is xeriscaped and then we
[1:12:35]
have asked um the applicant to dedicate
[1:12:37]
their half width of Highway 112 and 138.
[1:12:42]
Um, UDOT has asked for 117
[1:12:45]
ft right-of-way. So, they've dedicated
[1:12:46]
their half which was significant.
[1:12:49]
Um, and caused them to have to redo a
[1:12:51]
big portion of their plans, and but
[1:12:53]
that's why you'll see these parts strips
[1:12:54]
are so wide as well that when that road
[1:12:57]
widens
[1:12:58]
>> It will be ready to widen.
[1:13:04]
» [laughter]
[1:13:06]
>> This one a big stick. Someone give me a
[1:13:07]
big stick.
[1:13:08]
>> You do need a big stick.
[1:13:09]
>> I'm going to get you a laser pointer.
[1:13:11]
>> At least.
[1:13:13]
This one might work.
[1:13:16]
Yeah, it don't work.
[1:13:18]
But yeah, any questions?
[1:13:21]
>> [clears throat]
[1:13:27]
» The dry or the
[1:13:29]
um
[1:13:31]
drive-thru that you mentioned, is that
[1:13:34]
just something that you can purchase
[1:13:36]
things from the gas station there or is
[1:13:39]
it a separate business that will have
[1:13:41]
like a
[1:13:42]
another restaurant that you would pull
[1:13:44]
through there?
[1:13:44]
>> No, so it's you know, if you want a
[1:13:46]
drink or a the snack or or not, so.
[1:13:49]
>> And then we do have Brent here as well.
[1:13:51]
>> Okay.
[1:13:53]
come on up, Brent.
[1:13:54]
>> You're going to come
[1:13:54]
>> up.
[1:13:55]
I was looking for him and then I text
[1:13:56]
him, I'm like, are you here? And he's
[1:13:57]
like, I'm right here.
[1:13:58]
>> [laughter]
[1:14:00]
>> Um my name's Brent Neil with Holiday
[1:14:02]
Oil. Yeah, thank you. Um so touching on
[1:14:04]
the drive-thru, so if you go to our Lake
[1:14:06]
Point location, that's the same kind of
[1:14:08]
concept we're going to be doing here. So
[1:14:09]
it's more of a sweet shop, so you can't
[1:14:11]
get you can't buy like gas through it,
[1:14:13]
tobacco, beer, anything like that. It's
[1:14:15]
specialty drinks, the dirty sodas,
[1:14:18]
um cookies, stuff like that. So it's
[1:14:19]
more of a sweet shop.
[1:14:20]
>> I'm hungry right now, so let's not talk
[1:14:22]
about that.
[1:14:23]
>> I was wondering [laughter] why he
[1:14:24]
pointed at me when we were talking about
[1:14:25]
cookies.
[1:14:29]
» [laughter]
[1:14:30]
>> Well, you provide a good product. Uh
[1:14:32]
excited to see it it take place on this
[1:14:34]
corner. I I And Shelley, I appreciate
[1:14:36]
you
[1:14:38]
hitting on
[1:14:39]
um
[1:14:40]
how we envision this area. I know last
[1:14:42]
night P&Z this area further to the north of this
[1:14:47]
was discussed and the extension of
[1:14:50]
or possible extension of 112 and and
[1:14:52]
that going further to the north. Um
[1:14:56]
I guess that the the question I had is I
[1:14:59]
mean all of this obviously has gone
[1:15:01]
through UDOT as far as the entrance
[1:15:02]
locations. So, we will have an entrance
[1:15:04]
off of
[1:15:07]
Main Street and an entrance off of 112,
[1:15:09]
correct?
[1:15:10]
>> are right in right out only.
[1:15:12]
>> Okay.
[1:15:14]
>> Uh 112 should be a full motion.
[1:15:17]
>> Yeah,
[1:15:18]
sorry. It's It's a left right right in
[1:15:20]
right out.
[1:15:21]
>> Okay.
[1:15:21]
>> Uh
[1:15:22]
and we did ask them to put a 6-ft fence
[1:15:25]
along the
[1:15:26]
west side.
[1:15:28]
>> At the west side.
[1:15:30]
Against the
[1:15:32]
next piece. Yeah.
[1:15:34]
Okay.
[1:15:36]
>> I see the turn lane on 112 going in. Are
[1:15:38]
we going to do anything with Main Street
[1:15:40]
to get the right in? Is that going to be
[1:15:42]
>> Yeah, they'll have to I don't know. It's
[1:15:44]
kind of like
[1:15:45]
>> At the entrance up to the Is that the
[1:15:47]
west?
[1:15:49]
>> [laughter]
[1:15:50]
>> Um but it's it's hatched here. You can
[1:15:52]
see these hatches. So, they'll have to
[1:15:53]
do a merge lane in
[1:15:55]
and get that in there. So, with UDOT on
[1:15:57]
both 138 and 112.
[1:15:59]
>> Similar to what's been done on Matthews
[1:16:01]
Lane, where
[1:16:02]
>> Correct.
[1:16:03]
>> a lane has been created for a a right
[1:16:05]
turn in. Okay.
[1:16:10]
» And this will eventually allow us to
[1:16:13]
continue the the two lanes.
[1:16:26]
» I was maybe just going to ask the
[1:16:28]
question regarding P&Z, like is there
[1:16:30]
any feedback
[1:16:33]
that came through that we need to
[1:16:35]
>> Um I I mean they're concerned, you know,
[1:16:38]
with with the turning and and then the
[1:16:40]
wall, but
[1:16:41]
they were pretty excited
[1:16:43]
>> Straightforward. Okay.
[1:16:46]
» I want to say Derek was there for that.
[1:16:50]
>> [laughter]
[1:16:51]
>> Back in the day. I can't remember it.
[1:16:53]
>> You were there for all of it.
[1:16:55]
>> I was there from the beginning when
[1:16:57]
we changed the
[1:16:59]
>> What we did was zoning, I think, or
[1:17:01]
something. Or but
[1:17:04]
>> Um
[1:17:05]
>> Yeah, I remember passing with zoning.
[1:17:07]
>> Yeah, I don't know if I have either.
[1:17:10]
Questions?
[1:17:11]
>> Not to get into the weeds, but like the trees in the landscaping along 112
[1:17:17]
and and
[1:17:19]
I mean, this will be a new addition to
[1:17:22]
our main and as we have new additions to
[1:17:24]
the main, obviously trying to coordinate
[1:17:28]
you have different components.
[1:17:30]
Um I don't know. Do we go Do we get into
[1:17:33]
what types of trees, how those Okay. So,
[1:17:36]
we are looking
[1:17:37]
into the future there.
[1:17:38]
>> What about lighting?
[1:17:40]
>> So, we do have area lights. Um there is
[1:17:43]
a photometric plan
[1:17:45]
that shows Oh, not in this one? Okay.
[1:17:47]
>> Okay.
[1:17:47]
>> That's in the separate plan that they
[1:17:48]
have to submit
[1:17:50]
their We've met with uh
[1:17:52]
with them to talk about like signage and
[1:17:54]
things like that.
[1:17:54]
>> I think she was also needing street
[1:17:56]
lights.
[1:17:57]
>> Yeah.
[1:17:59]
No.
[1:17:59]
>> That would be U dot's decision.
[1:18:01]
>> Okay.
[1:18:04]
» Yeah, so we'll we'll continue to
[1:18:05]
coordinate with U dot as far as if they
[1:18:06]
do require any kind of signal or street
[1:18:08]
lights. We do have area lights around
[1:18:10]
the property and that's what we the
[1:18:12]
photometric plan will show that we keep
[1:18:14]
the candle with on our property and it's
[1:18:15]
not just glaring all over the field and
[1:18:17]
everything to the east of us as well. So
[1:18:19]
>> Okay.
[1:18:29]
What is your anticipated time frame?
[1:18:32]
>> So, we're hoping to open December.
[1:18:35]
Um depending We still have to go and
[1:18:36]
respond to the city with some staff
[1:18:38]
approval and also with UDOT. So, we're
[1:18:39]
hoping to push dirt and start moving
[1:18:41]
dirt in mid-July.
[1:18:43]
So, about a month out
[1:18:45]
is what we're pushing for.
[1:18:49]
» Gas for Christmas.
[1:18:50]
>> Yeah.
[1:18:51]
>> [laughter]
[1:18:53]
>> Is that also your property to the south
[1:18:56]
where it's kind of cut out, or is that a
[1:18:58]
separate property?
[1:18:59]
>> No, we we own that as well. So, that's
[1:19:00]
not part of this project. Um, we are
[1:19:02]
currently under contract with a
[1:19:04]
potential user there, but it's we're
[1:19:06]
actively trying to sell it. That last
[1:19:08]
that back acre piece.
[1:19:15]
» Is that piece on
[1:19:17]
>> 112?
[1:19:18]
>> Mhm.
[1:19:19]
>> Okay.
[1:19:20]
That's further south.
[1:19:22]
>> Okay.
[1:19:24]
>> And that's where the plat shows the
[1:19:25]
cross access as well. So, we can UDOT
[1:19:27]
made us put our access 500 ft down. So,
[1:19:29]
that's why it's further down on Highway
[1:19:31]
112 to allow us to get back on our
[1:19:33]
property.
[1:19:34]
For the gas station property.
[1:19:36]
>> Okay.
[1:19:50]
» I don't have anything else.
[1:19:51]
>> I don't have anything.
[1:19:53]
>> All right, just need a motion then.
[1:19:54]
>> I'll make a motion then.
[1:19:56]
>> Thank you. Appreciate it.
[1:19:57]
>> I'll make a motion we approve resolution
[1:20:00]
2026-39
[1:20:01]
approving the proposed amendment to the
[1:20:03]
Kenneth Folsom subdivision
[1:20:05]
and approving the commercial final plat
[1:20:06]
application for Holiday Oil located at
[1:20:08]
approximately 794 East Main Street in
[1:20:10]
the CG zoning district.
[1:20:12]
>> All right, we have a a motion by Council
[1:20:14]
Member Dalton. Is there a second?
[1:20:16]
>> I'll second it.
[1:20:17]
>> Second by Council Member Williams and a
[1:20:19]
third by Council Member Skinner. All in
[1:20:22]
favor?
[1:20:22]
>> Aye.
[1:20:24]
>> All right, thank you and welcome to
[1:20:25]
Grantsville. We're excited to have you.
[1:20:29]
» I'm coming for my cookies.
[1:20:31]
>> That's right.
[1:20:31]
>> [laughter]
[1:20:32]
>> They're desperate.
[1:20:33]
>> [sighs and gasps]
[1:20:34]
>> All right, item number eight.
[1:20:39]
Is a consideration of resolution 2026-44
[1:20:43]
approving the master development
[1:20:44]
agreement for the Willow Field
[1:20:46]
subdivision located approximately at Old
[1:20:49]
Lincoln Highway and Champion Drive.
[1:20:52]
>> This one was
[1:20:54]
later.
[1:20:54]
No, actually you're we're going to
[1:20:55]
switch them.
[1:20:56]
>> And we are keeping Shelby busy tonight.
[1:20:58]
>> Yes. [laughter]
[1:21:00]
Um so this is um an amendment and a
[1:21:03]
reinstatement of the development
[1:21:04]
agreement. This project is in the
[1:21:07]
uh rural residential one.
[1:21:09]
It has a PUD overlay on it. Um so the
[1:21:12]
applicant stayed with the one-acre lots
[1:21:15]
with two of the lots facing Old Lincoln
[1:21:17]
Highway. Um it's a half-acre lot just
[1:21:19]
cuz um the two lots are half-acre just
[1:21:22]
cuz [clears throat] it would have been
[1:21:22]
kind of an
[1:21:23]
odd-shaped one-acre lot.
[1:21:26]
Um it consisted of approximately 29
[1:21:29]
acres. It was approved in 2022 um
[1:21:32]
through resolution 2022-40 and 2022-41
[1:21:36]
and 2022-81
[1:21:39]
um with the prior development agreement.
[1:21:41]
We are um the applicant is wanting to
[1:21:45]
build one additional lot for I believe
[1:21:48]
his nephew.
[1:21:49]
Um and that's what we're calling phase
[1:21:51]
two. Um and then the remainder will stay
[1:21:54]
open. We have um and I did correct that
[1:21:57]
Tyson. We did um update it in the
[1:21:59]
development agreement. I believe it's
[1:22:01]
2035 that he has um until he can build
[1:22:05]
out. Um anything past 2035 reverts to
[1:22:08]
the um RR1 zoning which they were
[1:22:11]
following.
[1:22:12]
Only deviations that they had asked for
[1:22:14]
and were vested with in the prior PUD um
[1:22:17]
was just the road cross-section.
[1:22:20]
Um on that. So um
[1:22:22]
we are asking for fee in lieu the
[1:22:26]
um making sure that we have the
[1:22:28]
easements for the sewer line
[1:22:30]
construction um as well as the
[1:22:32]
dedication of the road in front of this
[1:22:34]
one additional lot.
[1:22:39]
Tony, if you want to
[1:22:41]
Oh, you'll probably scroll for a while.
[1:22:45]
Yeah, probably towards the end of the
[1:22:47]
NDA. There's a
[1:22:49]
that layout 23.
[1:22:52]
Go down two more.
[1:22:55]
So, that's what it um currently looks
[1:22:57]
like.
[1:22:59]
They actually stopped
[1:23:01]
building approximately here and then
[1:23:04]
there's that one additional
[1:23:06]
lot.
[1:23:09]
» So, they were already approved for this?
[1:23:10]
>> Yes.
[1:23:31]
» You hit on the questions I had regarding
[1:23:33]
sewer easement access.
[1:23:35]
>> I knew I was psychic.
[1:23:37]
>> So,
[1:23:39]
» Oh, thank you, Jake.
[1:23:41]
>> Yeah, thanks for digging into it, but 30 35
[1:23:45]
that you were going to give them to
[1:23:48]
get everything [laughter] done, right?
[1:23:49]
Good thing, Tyson.
[1:23:50]
>> 30 35
[1:23:52]
Hey, yeah.
[1:23:53]
>> Forever.
[1:23:54]
>> [laughter]
[1:23:56]
>> Infinity years.
[1:23:58]
>> Sometimes how my projects seem like
[1:24:00]
>> [laughter]
[1:24:09]
» I think it looks good. I mean, it's
[1:24:11]
We're saying they can do what we've
[1:24:12]
already said they could do, right?
[1:24:13]
>> That's what it sounds like.
[1:24:14]
>> Pretty much.
[1:24:16]
According to what they had for the
[1:24:17]
beauty.
[1:24:18]
>> Yeah.
[1:24:20]
» Mayor, I'll make a motion we approve
[1:24:22]
resolution 2026-44
[1:24:25]
approving the master development
[1:24:26]
agreement for the Willow Field
[1:24:27]
subdivision located at approximately Old
[1:24:29]
Lincoln Highway and Champion Drive.
[1:24:32]
>> We have a motion by council member
[1:24:33]
Dalton. Is there a second?
[1:24:35]
>> I second.
[1:24:35]
>> Second by council member Thomas. All in
[1:24:37]
favor?
[1:24:38]
>> I.
[1:24:40]
>> Great.
[1:24:44]
Okay, item number nine is a public
[1:24:47]
hearing item. It is the consideration of
[1:24:49]
resolution 2026-45
[1:24:52]
approving the fiscal year 2026 year-end
[1:24:55]
budget amendments and adopting the
[1:24:56]
fiscal year 2026 year-end budget.
[1:25:00]
This will be presented by Aspen Clegg,
[1:25:02]
our finance director, and after her
[1:25:04]
presentation, if there's any members
[1:25:06]
from the community who have additional
[1:25:09]
concerns or comments that they would
[1:25:11]
like to bring to the council,
[1:25:13]
um
[1:25:14]
we will invite you to to to speak on
[1:25:17]
that um
[1:25:19]
at that time. Right now, we'll let Aspen
[1:25:21]
speak and present on this item.
[1:25:24]
>> Okay, council, this is the year-end
[1:25:27]
budget amendments for fiscal year 2026.
[1:25:31]
And so, fiscal year 2026 ends June 30th
[1:25:33]
of this
[1:25:35]
upcoming month, and then fiscal year 27
[1:25:37]
begins on July 1st. So,
[1:25:39]
after this meeting, we can no longer
[1:25:41]
make
[1:25:42]
budget changes to fiscal year 2026
[1:25:44]
because you guys will no longer be
[1:25:46]
operating in it, and you guys can't vote
[1:25:47]
on it. And so, this is just the last
[1:25:50]
changes to the fiscal year 2026.
[1:25:53]
Um
[1:25:54]
you'll note that a lot of like and some
[1:25:56]
of them are substantial. So, if you have
[1:25:58]
like specific questions about some of
[1:25:59]
them, we can talk about them, but
[1:26:02]
um
[1:26:03]
it's I do feel like it's a little
[1:26:05]
misleading because we are adjusting
[1:26:07]
expenses, but we don't adjust like I
[1:26:10]
don't come before you and say, "Hey, can
[1:26:11]
you approve us to receive more grant
[1:26:14]
money?" Or like the revenues that are
[1:26:18]
reflected aren't necessarily in here
[1:26:20]
because the we
[1:26:23]
are worried about overspending in our
[1:26:24]
expenditure accounts, but we don't get
[1:26:26]
approval to like bring in more revenues.
[1:26:28]
And so some of these line items are
[1:26:30]
specifically in relation to receiving
[1:26:33]
more grant funding, but we need to
[1:26:36]
increase the budget in their grant
[1:26:38]
expense line, so that way they are
[1:26:40]
actually approved to have spent that
[1:26:41]
grant money. So like that 106,000 for
[1:26:44]
instance in community development
[1:26:46]
that you see there at 175264,
[1:26:49]
that is in relation with the grant. And
[1:26:51]
so it's kind of misleading that it seems
[1:26:53]
like a huge additional expense, but we
[1:26:55]
do have the revenue that offsets it. You
[1:26:57]
just don't see it in these amendments.
[1:26:59]
So
[1:27:00]
um
[1:27:01]
if you have any specific questions, I'm
[1:27:03]
happy to address them. Otherwise, that's
[1:27:06]
pretty much where we are as okay.
[1:27:11]
Anybody have any questions or should we
[1:27:12]
move to the public hearing at this
[1:27:14]
point?
[1:27:15]
Let's do the public hearing then. Okay.
[1:27:17]
Thanks, Aspen.
[1:27:19]
If there's any members of the public who
[1:27:22]
would like to
[1:27:23]
um comment on this item, number nine,
[1:27:26]
this is your time to do so. If you're
[1:27:28]
online,
[1:27:30]
you could please raise your hand. Um
[1:27:32]
we will let you speak there as well. Is
[1:27:34]
there anybody here in the audience that
[1:27:36]
would like to speak on this item?
[1:27:41]
Anyone online?
[1:27:46]
Okay.
[1:27:48]
All right, we will close the public
[1:27:49]
hearing for item number nine.
[1:27:51]
And
[1:27:52]
we will now move to a discussion with
[1:27:54]
the council regarding regarding item
[1:27:56]
number nine and look for a motion.
[1:28:21]
» I guess this is just making it more in
[1:28:23]
line with what we're actually spending
[1:28:24]
through the end of the year. Is that
[1:28:25]
what we're like
[1:28:26]
>> Yeah, so um like by state statute
[1:28:29]
departments can't go over budget like
[1:28:31]
overspending from what was approved and
[1:28:33]
so this would just bring into
[1:28:37]
it would make sense so that everything
[1:28:38]
that was spent is within that
[1:28:40]
department's approved budget. Um
[1:28:42]
>> And it's not because they overspent,
[1:28:44]
it's because they received more revenue
[1:28:46]
>> Sometimes.
[1:28:47]
>> Okay.
[1:28:48]
>> I mean legal uh we did have a large
[1:28:50]
increase in legal expenses, but we had a
[1:28:53]
lot of
[1:28:54]
legal expenses this year that weren't I
[1:28:56]
mean there was a legal budget presented
[1:28:59]
and was approved by council back when
[1:29:02]
fiscal year 26 budget was approved, but
[1:29:04]
um
[1:29:05]
just we had a lot more legal fees than
[1:29:08]
were anticipated this last year. So like
[1:29:10]
that line is I mean we don't have a
[1:29:12]
grant for legal fees. We just have to
[1:29:15]
pay them.
[1:29:16]
So like that one
[1:29:18]
is just true expense just because we
[1:29:20]
have
[1:29:21]
had a lot of legal fees. Um
[1:29:23]
>> It's a large transfer and am I right
[1:29:24]
about that?
[1:29:25]
>> Yeah.
[1:29:25]
>> Transfer from different different
[1:29:27]
expense accounts into legal.
[1:29:30]
Traditionally those
[1:29:31]
legal expenses had not been put into the
[1:29:34]
legal fund. So
[1:29:36]
uh
[1:29:37]
we're capturing legal expenses that were
[1:29:40]
attributed to different departments, now
[1:29:42]
placing them all into the legal budget.
[1:29:45]
And so there's a large transfer that
[1:29:46]
occurred. Um this is the first time that
[1:29:48]
transfer has ever happened.
[1:29:50]
>> So they were split apart and we pulled
[1:29:52]
them together.
[1:29:52]
>> This way it's more transparent on what
[1:29:54]
we do for our legal fees.
[1:29:56]
>> Yeah.
[1:29:58]
Um
[1:29:59]
but yeah you know our like elections we
[1:30:01]
spent $75
[1:30:03]
more dollars than was originally
[1:30:04]
budgeted for that. So we have to
[1:30:06]
increase that collections budget for
[1:30:08]
$75. So, that way that cuz that budget
[1:30:10]
is just so small. It's just the one
[1:30:11]
line. There's not another line item to
[1:30:13]
cover that expense. And so, we just have
[1:30:15]
to
[1:30:17]
show it. So.
[1:30:18]
>> But, there's other lines, but we're not
[1:30:20]
showing that they're going to be lower
[1:30:22]
in the budget and things like that. So,
[1:30:23]
we'll have a final
[1:30:25]
trueing up of the budget later
[1:30:28]
but in August, I'd say.
[1:30:29]
>> No. Well, I mean, we can do line item
[1:30:31]
adjustments at any time. So, like if
[1:30:33]
there's a
[1:30:34]
if there's one line item that had
[1:30:36]
excess budget in it, we could transfer
[1:30:39]
it to that line item to help cover that.
[1:30:41]
And that I did address already. They've
[1:30:44]
been sent to Marie to do internal
[1:30:46]
entries. So, that's kind of separate,
[1:30:48]
but um
[1:30:50]
yeah, then as a second part of this
[1:30:53]
item is just the approval of the
[1:30:55]
year-end budget, which has like those
[1:30:57]
adjustments in it in the actual fiscal
[1:30:59]
year 2026 budget, which is like all of
[1:31:01]
this. But,
[1:31:25]
» Anybody like to make a motion on this
[1:31:27]
item?
[1:31:42]
» I guess are we expanding the budget or
[1:31:44]
like is this increasing the budget?
[1:31:45]
>> Yeah. So, all of those amendments would
[1:31:47]
be increasing the fiscal year 2026
[1:31:49]
budget. Unfortunately, at this point,
[1:31:51]
all of those expenses have already been
[1:31:52]
incurred. So,
[1:31:54]
I mean, we can discuss them and look
[1:31:56]
into them as much as you'd like, but
[1:31:58]
ultimately, we're going to have to have
[1:31:59]
an approval of it because they've
[1:32:00]
already been expensed. So.
[1:32:03]
>> I'm paid.
[1:32:03]
>> Um
[1:32:05]
there's not a lot
[1:32:06]
>> [laughter]
[1:32:06]
>> like a lot to do there unfortunately. Um
[1:32:10]
in
[1:32:11]
I came in at the
[1:32:13]
partway through this fiscal year. So,
[1:32:15]
going forward in fiscal year 27, I would
[1:32:17]
like to come more often with budget
[1:32:19]
amendments as they come as they arise
[1:32:22]
with different things that want to be
[1:32:23]
expensed. Um
[1:32:26]
but
[1:32:27]
yeah, unfortunately I just wasn't here.
[1:32:29]
So, a lot of this just got we've we're
[1:32:32]
just running on what was done before.
[1:32:34]
So. But
[1:32:35]
>> But moving forward for 2027, have we
[1:32:37]
looked at this and said, "Okay, then,
[1:32:38]
you know, for going forward making sure
[1:32:40]
>> Yeah. We have what we need in these
[1:32:41]
departments." Yeah, and we're actually
[1:32:42]
in the process of changing our accounts
[1:32:44]
payable right now. Um we're piloting it
[1:32:47]
currently with the police department and
[1:32:49]
hopefully it'll be ready to go at the
[1:32:51]
beginning of fiscal year 27, but it will
[1:32:53]
require departments to get approval
[1:32:55]
prior to purchases being made rather
[1:32:58]
than
[1:33:00]
they kind of do a process right now, but
[1:33:01]
it's once they have an invoice, which is
[1:33:03]
again
[1:33:04]
it's too late. Like they've already
[1:33:06]
ordered it and received the product by
[1:33:08]
the time that they've received an
[1:33:09]
invoice. And so,
[1:33:11]
um they'll be
[1:33:12]
a learning curve and some growing pains
[1:33:14]
for sure, but I think ultimately in the
[1:33:16]
long run it'll end up proving to be
[1:33:18]
beneficial for Grantsville City to have
[1:33:21]
it required to get approval prior to
[1:33:23]
purchases being made. And then that will
[1:33:24]
keep them within their budgetary
[1:33:26]
restrictions because they won't be able
[1:33:28]
[clears throat] to request a a PO that
[1:33:30]
would exceed the budget within that
[1:33:32]
line. So.
[1:33:36]
Yeah.
[1:33:37]
>> I'll take that. It will definitely help.
[1:33:38]
I mean
[1:33:39]
we increased our budget 2.8 million from
[1:33:41]
the original
[1:33:43]
approved budget last year to today. So.
[1:33:47]
I don't like the
[1:33:49]
buy and ask for for permission
[1:33:52]
after the fact.
[1:33:54]
>> Yeah, I mean
[1:33:55]
>> I think where we get an extra 2.8. I
[1:33:57]
know things come up.
[1:33:59]
Uh you know, that's unexpected, but
[1:34:01]
you know,
[1:34:03]
it's
[1:34:03]
>> But some of those funds of the 2.8 were
[1:34:06]
because grants were received. So yeah,
[1:34:09]
it was spent, but yet it wasn't because
[1:34:11]
we went over necessarily. It was just
[1:34:14]
how it has to look on paper.
[1:34:15]
>> Yeah, and so like I mean, we're
[1:34:18]
Yeah, there are grants to offset some of
[1:34:20]
these expenses for sure, but that's just
[1:34:22]
not shown because we don't increase the
[1:34:24]
revenue line
[1:34:25]
it with a budget amendment. There
[1:34:28]
the state is worried about budget
[1:34:29]
amendments for expenditures, not so much
[1:34:31]
getting approval to receive more
[1:34:33]
revenue. Um
[1:34:34]
so that's why it comes before you like
[1:34:36]
this. But there are like specifically um
[1:34:40]
>> The revenue
[1:34:42]
>> Yeah.
[1:34:44]
>> stops would be in that scenario.
[1:34:46]
>> Yeah.
[1:34:47]
so like we did receive
[1:34:49]
>> dollars for the grants included in that
[1:34:51]
number.
[1:34:52]
>> Mhm.
[1:34:52]
>> But you won't see that.
[1:34:53]
>> But you That's how you'll see the
[1:34:55]
expenditure of that and then it just
[1:34:56]
shows that we have inflated our budget
[1:34:58]
and then like this is the true amount,
[1:35:00]
but so that she said is not a fair
[1:35:02]
representation.
[1:35:03]
>> Yeah, ultimately you'll see like the
[1:35:04]
revenues versus expenditures after they
[1:35:06]
do like our fiscal year 26 audit, but
[1:35:09]
again, that's not
[1:35:10]
com- done until like December of this
[1:35:12]
year. And so
[1:35:14]
But this is the last time we have the
[1:35:16]
opportunity to make the amendments for
[1:35:18]
the expenditures.
[1:35:28]
» Mayor, I make a motion that we approve
[1:35:30]
resolution 2026-46 approving and
[1:35:33]
adopting the fiscal year
[1:35:35]
Sorry, uh 2026 year end budget
[1:35:37]
amendments and adopting the fiscal year
[1:35:39]
2026 year end budget.
[1:35:41]
>> Would Would you restate the resolution
[1:35:42]
number?
[1:35:43]
>> Yeah, sorry. That was the last it was on
[1:35:44]
the wrong one. 2026-45.
[1:35:46]
>> Thank you.
[1:35:47]
We have a motion by Council member
[1:35:48]
Skinner. Is there a second?
[1:35:52]
>> I second.
[1:35:53]
>> A second by council member Thomas. All
[1:35:55]
in favor?
[1:35:56]
>> I.
[1:35:58]
>> All right.
[1:36:05]
this is me again.
[1:36:07]
So, our
[1:36:07]
>> just a second.
[1:36:08]
>> Sorry.
[1:36:09]
>> Um agenda item You're fine. Agenda item
[1:36:11]
number 10, also a public hearing item.
[1:36:14]
Uh it's a consideration of a resolution
[1:36:15]
2026-46
[1:36:17]
approving and adopting the fiscal year
[1:36:19]
2027 compensation compensation schedule
[1:36:23]
for Grantsville City department heads
[1:36:25]
and elected officials. It'll be
[1:36:27]
presented by Aspen Clegg, the finance
[1:36:29]
director. And after her presentation, uh
[1:36:32]
members of the public are welcome to
[1:36:33]
make comments on this agenda item.
[1:36:37]
>> Thank you. So, for fiscal year 2027, it
[1:36:39]
does include a 3% COLA increase for all
[1:36:42]
staff. That does include department
[1:36:44]
heads
[1:36:45]
um as well as elected officials. And so,
[1:36:48]
per state statute, we're required to
[1:36:49]
disclose what the department heads will
[1:36:51]
be
[1:36:52]
receiving at that point in time. So,
[1:36:53]
this is just a disclosure of the salary
[1:36:57]
rates for the department heads and
[1:36:59]
elected officials for Grantsville City
[1:37:01]
that would go into effect in fiscal year
[1:37:03]
2027
[1:37:05]
for that in budget year. So.
[1:37:10]
That's what that is. I'll let the public
[1:37:12]
hearing happen, and then I'll be back.
[1:37:13]
>> Thank you.
[1:37:16]
Are there any public comments on this
[1:37:19]
item?
[1:37:23]
Anyone online?
[1:37:29]
>> No?
[1:37:31]
All right. We're seeing no comments.
[1:37:33]
So, we will continue back to the
[1:37:35]
discussion with the council
[1:37:38]
um for item number 10.
[1:37:42]
» We've already approved this, right? This
[1:37:43]
is just numbers. This is just showing
[1:37:45]
what the actual numbers are that we're
[1:37:46]
going to
[1:37:47]
>> Okay.
[1:37:47]
>> And this is cost of living. This is not
[1:37:49]
This is what we approved last as a merit
[1:37:50]
increase. This is just a cost of living.
[1:37:52]
>> Correct.
[1:37:53]
>> Yes.
[1:37:53]
>> This is just the 3%
[1:37:57]
Yeah, this is just a cost of living.
[1:37:58]
>> Correct.
[1:38:02]
» I do [clears throat] understand the
[1:38:03]
difference between the two.
[1:38:05]
>> [laughter]
[1:38:06]
>> Yeah, there has been a There's been a
[1:38:07]
lot of sem- semantics. It is an
[1:38:09]
increase. It is an increase. Um but
[1:38:12]
there's also been inflation from last
[1:38:13]
year to this year as well. So,
[1:38:15]
um
[1:38:17]
you know, I I I deal with this in my
[1:38:21]
what I, you know, current company that I
[1:38:23]
work with and we we separate the two.
[1:38:27]
Um
[1:38:29]
and yeah, it's an im- it's an impact in
[1:38:31]
one form or fashion. So,
[1:38:33]
anyway, yeah. I I don't need to say any
[1:38:35]
more on that.
[1:38:42]
» Like I said last meeting, I'm
[1:38:44]
fine with the I kind of got some of the
[1:38:46]
stuff I wanted, but
[1:38:48]
I just have to say that I don't think
[1:38:49]
that the elected officials should
[1:38:52]
receive anything. I think we just keep
[1:38:53]
ours as is.
[1:38:56]
But that's my my two cents on it.
[1:39:00]
>> And to be sure, not I mean, this is like
[1:39:02]
the approved rate, but even not all of
[1:39:05]
the elected officials receive that. Some
[1:39:07]
have opted to like
[1:39:11]
forgo or forfeit, I guess, yeah, theirs
[1:39:15]
and so they don't actually receive it.
[1:39:35]
» So, I did the math. It's just the 3%
[1:39:37]
COLA. That's all this is showing.
[1:39:40]
Correct.
[1:39:40]
>> So, the first
[1:39:42]
number you'll see is like the current
[1:39:44]
compensation so these are the rates that
[1:39:45]
they're currently paid at and then
[1:39:48]
the second column would be what their
[1:39:51]
new rate would be with that 3% Cola
[1:39:53]
which is again cost of living adjustment
[1:39:56]
only which is the 3% that's been
[1:39:57]
approved for
[1:40:00]
citywide staff to receive so
[1:40:10]
» I've I've
[1:40:12]
spent [clears throat] the last couple
[1:40:13]
weeks having conversations with
[1:40:16]
um
[1:40:19]
most of the individuals on this on this
[1:40:21]
list I I know
[1:40:23]
um
[1:40:28]
we
[1:40:29]
I I I just want to say I appreciate our our staff and especially those that
[1:40:35]
direct um
[1:40:39]
direct the the city um
[1:40:42]
and
[1:40:44]
the the dealings that we deal with a lot
[1:40:46]
of those individuals you know have a
[1:40:48]
holiday supposed to be on a holiday and
[1:40:51]
on a holiday they are
[1:40:55]
at their desk so um
[1:40:58]
uh I it's it's
[1:41:00]
>> or out in the field
[1:41:03]
um and so I anyway I did
[1:41:07]
I think this at a minimum is is
[1:41:11]
uh an appreciation factor
[1:41:14]
we're dealing with you know
[1:41:16]
costs of livings and other things that
[1:41:18]
you know come into play this is
[1:41:19]
appreciation I I I feel like this is
[1:41:22]
something we needed to do just to even
[1:41:24]
in that setting to to show that so anyway
[1:41:29]
that's all I have to say on it
[1:41:32]
>> staff appreciate all of that
[1:41:47]
» Appreciate all the extra effort, too, in
[1:41:49]
going through the budgets to try to
[1:41:50]
figure out how we can
[1:41:53]
>> Where we can make the cuts. Yep.
[1:41:55]
>> So
[1:41:59]
All right. Now, I'm finished, Jeff.
[1:42:02]
>> [laughter]
[1:42:04]
» So, is the public comment done? We just
[1:42:07]
need a motion.
[1:42:10]
» [clears throat and cough]
[1:42:17]
» So, Mayor, I make a motion that we
[1:42:19]
approve Resolution 26-46
[1:42:23]
approving and adopting the fiscal year
[1:42:25]
2027 compensation schedule for the
[1:42:28]
Grantsville City department heads and
[1:42:30]
elected officials.
[1:42:32]
>> We have a motion by Councilmember
[1:42:34]
Williams. Is there a second?
[1:42:36]
>> I'll second the motion.
[1:42:37]
>> A second by Councilmember Skinner. All
[1:42:40]
in favor.
[1:42:41]
>> Aye.
[1:42:42]
>> All opposed.
[1:42:43]
>> Nay.
[1:42:48]
» Roll call. Councilmember Williams.
[1:42:50]
>> In favor.
[1:42:51]
>> Skinner.
[1:42:52]
>> In favor.
[1:42:53]
>> Dalton.
[1:42:54]
>> Nay.
[1:42:55]
>> Um Thomas.
[1:42:57]
>> In favor.
[1:43:04]
» Okay. Item number 11, a presentation of
[1:43:07]
property tax impact schedule.
[1:43:12]
» All right. So,
[1:43:14]
it's our favorite little property tax
[1:43:16]
impact schedule document you guys have
[1:43:18]
seen.
[1:43:20]
Um
[1:43:22]
So, Grantsville City is considering an
[1:43:24]
increase to its property tax rate from
[1:43:27]
0.001417
[1:43:29]
to 0.001488,
[1:43:32]
which exceeds the estimated certified
[1:43:33]
tax rate and is estimated to generate an
[1:43:36]
additional $110,598,
[1:43:39]
dollars, sorry, and 32 cents in property
[1:43:41]
tax revenue.
[1:43:43]
Um, so it just kind of goes through what
[1:43:46]
our current property tax rate is, um, at
[1:43:48]
the certified tax rate, um, what how
[1:43:51]
much property tax revenue that would
[1:43:53]
generate, which is 2.2 million.
[1:43:55]
The proposed revenue with the tax change
[1:43:57]
would be 2.3 million, which is that
[1:44:00]
increase of 110,000. So, it's a 5%
[1:44:04]
property tax
[1:44:05]
increase rate, and it equates to
[1:44:08]
approximately a dollar 83 per month for
[1:44:10]
residential, for the average home.
[1:44:13]
Um, and that again would be going to
[1:44:14]
fund a parks and recreation employee to
[1:44:18]
accommodate for our scenic slopes coming
[1:44:19]
online.
[1:44:21]
>> And Desert Edge.
[1:44:22]
yes.
[1:44:23]
>> Yes.
[1:44:24]
>> And the Veterans Park.
[1:44:27]
>> So, anyway, so we just have to read that
[1:44:29]
and disclose it and announce it and
[1:44:31]
present it. So,
[1:44:32]
nothing really to do that one.
[1:44:34]
>> Just a presentation.
[1:44:35]
>> Yep.
[1:44:36]
>> Okay.
[1:44:39]
All right.
[1:44:40]
Um,
[1:44:41]
item number 12,
[1:44:44]
um, is also a public hearing
[1:44:48]
item. It is the consideration of
[1:44:50]
resolution 2026-49
[1:44:53]
approving the 2026 update to the
[1:44:55]
Grantsville City Transportation Master
[1:44:57]
Plan.
[1:44:59]
>> Oh, wait, we have two different ones.
[1:45:00]
Oh.
[1:45:03]
>> Sorry.
[1:45:04]
>> So, mine's I got two papers and I have a
[1:45:06]
different item. Sorry.
[1:45:08]
Um, 2020 Item number 12, consideration
[1:45:11]
of resolution 2026-48
[1:45:14]
approving and adopting the fiscal year
[1:45:16]
2027 interim budget and acknowledging
[1:45:19]
the fiscal year 2027 property tax impact
[1:45:21]
schedule.
[1:45:23]
>> So, this is just would be the interim
[1:45:25]
budget for fiscal year 2027 for us to
[1:45:28]
operate on
[1:45:30]
beginning July 1st. Um the truth in
[1:45:32]
taxation will go through
[1:45:34]
um
[1:45:35]
citizens will receive the notice of it
[1:45:36]
when they get their tax valuation notice
[1:45:38]
in July from Tooele County.
[1:45:41]
And then we'll do our truth in taxation
[1:45:43]
hearing in August. And then at that
[1:45:44]
point, depending on you guys' decision
[1:45:46]
to adopt a new property tax rate of the
[1:45:49]
5% or lower, um at that point we would
[1:45:52]
adjust. So, this interim budget does
[1:45:54]
have the property tax, the additional
[1:45:56]
revenue proposed with the rate, as well
[1:45:59]
as the expenses separated out into
[1:46:02]
separate line items, so that that way it
[1:46:04]
does not perceived
[1:46:06]
in our operating budget that that
[1:46:08]
funding is available yet. So, depending
[1:46:11]
on what happens in August at that and
[1:46:13]
your decision at that point, we would
[1:46:15]
either do a line item adjustment to move
[1:46:17]
that budget into a usable line, or it
[1:46:21]
would just sit there untouched until
[1:46:24]
the year end, being as how we didn't
[1:46:26]
receive any additional revenue if you
[1:46:27]
guys opted for no increase in August.
[1:46:29]
So, this one just has it
[1:46:32]
explicitly separated out, so that way it
[1:46:35]
is not confused for any staff that they
[1:46:37]
think that that budget is available for
[1:46:39]
use.
[1:46:40]
So.
[1:46:41]
>> Is that the difference on what we were
[1:46:42]
voting cuz we we voted to approve it
[1:46:44]
last time, the interim budget, right?
[1:46:45]
>> So, that the tentative.
[1:46:47]
>> The tentative.
[1:46:48]
>> Yeah.
[1:46:49]
>> So, does it feel like this is like
[1:46:51]
Groundhog Day?
[1:46:52]
>> The tentative budget that we adopted the
[1:46:54]
tentative budget at the very beginning
[1:46:55]
of the presentation cuz that would just
[1:46:56]
be tentative till now that we have to
[1:46:58]
adopt the interim budget.
[1:46:59]
>> Okay.
[1:47:00]
>> Yeah, so the interim budget, and this is
[1:47:02]
new this year as well from the state of
[1:47:05]
Utah from the tax commission. And so, we
[1:47:08]
in years past they have adopt if they go
[1:47:11]
through a truth in taxation, they would
[1:47:12]
adopt a tentative budget, but there's
[1:47:15]
been a lot of changes for transparency
[1:47:18]
and truth in taxation processes that
[1:47:20]
have gone into effect this year. And so,
[1:47:22]
we have to be very clear
[1:47:24]
and use the new terminology that it's an
[1:47:26]
interim budget, not attentive. So, this
[1:47:29]
is the interim budget that we will be
[1:47:30]
operating on until we would adopt a
[1:47:33]
final budget in August after the truth
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and taxation.
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>> But nothing in this budget has changed
[1:47:39]
other than we're calling it the word
[1:47:40]
interim.
[1:47:40]
>> Yes, it's the word interim, and then it
[1:47:42]
does have the potential additional
[1:47:44]
revenue and that corresponding expense
[1:47:47]
in separate line items. Yeah.
[1:47:49]
>> Separated based on whatever decision is
[1:47:51]
made on that.
[1:47:51]
>> Correct. And so like I went into our
[1:47:53]
chart of accounts, created new general
[1:47:55]
ledger accounts, and so all of it's like
[1:47:57]
official now, and it does have it
[1:47:59]
separated out in this budget. But that's
[1:48:00]
the only change that has occurred since
[1:48:04]
the last one you saw.
[1:48:05]
>> Unless there's some increase you want to
[1:48:06]
put on there right now for some other
[1:48:08]
project that you thought of.
[1:48:12]
» Or we can do an amendment
[1:48:14]
after July.
[1:48:15]
>> [laughter]
[1:48:17]
>> So.
[1:48:19]
>> Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Aspen. We'll go
[1:48:21]
to our um
[1:48:22]
the public comment section of item
[1:48:25]
number 12. So, if you have any comments
[1:48:28]
and you would like to bring those to the
[1:48:30]
council's attention, please come forward
[1:48:31]
at this time, or if you're online,
[1:48:33]
please raise your hand.
[1:48:42]
Anything online, Alicia?
[1:48:45]
Okay. All right, we'll close the public
[1:48:47]
comment for item number 12 and continue
[1:48:49]
with the discussion with the council
[1:48:52]
um
[1:48:53]
on this resolution.
[1:48:56]
» I don't have more questions. That was my
[1:48:57]
all my questions.
[1:48:58]
>> All right.
[1:48:58]
>> I don't either.
[1:48:59]
>> Okay.
[1:49:01]
All right, we just need a motion.
[1:49:04]
>> Mayor, I make a motion we move to
[1:49:05]
approve resolution 2026-48 adopting
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approving and adopting the fiscal year
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2027 interim budget and acknowledging
[1:49:14]
the fiscal year 2027 property tax impact
[1:49:17]
schedule.
[1:49:17]
>> All right, we have a motion by council
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member Thomas. Is there a second?
[1:49:21]
>> I second motion.
[1:49:21]
>> Second by council member Skinner. All in
[1:49:23]
favor?
[1:49:24]
>> I.
[1:49:26]
>> Great.
[1:49:29]
Um item number 13, a consideration of
[1:49:31]
resolution 2026
[1:49:34]
-49 approving the 2026 update to the
[1:49:36]
Grantsville City Transportation Master
[1:49:38]
Plan.
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And I'm not even sure who's presenting
[1:49:42]
this.
[1:49:44]
That would be Bill.
[1:49:46]
>> [laughter]
[1:49:47]
>> We were meant to have someone online. Is
[1:49:48]
there someone from
[1:49:51]
Jones and Demille?
[1:49:52]
>> Um what would their name be?
[1:49:55]
I can tell you. I have it here.
[1:49:57]
>> McLean probably. Is
[1:49:58]
>> Matthew Lindford?
[1:50:00]
>> Yeah. Yeah, Matthew maybe.
[1:50:02]
>> Matthew McLean.
[1:50:04]
>> Hey, can you hear me?
[1:50:06]
>> Yes.
[1:50:08]
>> Okay, that would be Matthew. Hey
[1:50:09]
Matthew, how's it going?
[1:50:10]
>> Good. How are you doing?
[1:50:12]
>> I'm fabulous. You're on now with the
[1:50:14]
council meeting and I'll hear you, so
[1:50:16]
>> Okay.
[1:50:16]
>> I just wanted to give a quick little
[1:50:18]
introduction. Um the planning commission
[1:50:20]
heard this last month and um
[1:50:23]
voted to uh recommend approval by the
[1:50:25]
city council. So, that's in your staff
[1:50:27]
report.
[1:50:28]
Uh one of the nice things about having
[1:50:29]
this done now is that this helps to
[1:50:32]
inform questions about and decisions
[1:50:35]
made for and by our general plan update,
[1:50:37]
which is
[1:50:38]
imminent. So, um this would be an
[1:50:41]
element of that general plan update and
[1:50:44]
the the the coincidence of these two
[1:50:47]
things is actually very very fortuitous.
[1:50:50]
So, um
[1:50:52]
we're grateful for their efforts and uh
[1:50:55]
I hope you will enjoy their
[1:50:57]
presentation. If you have any questions
[1:50:58]
for me, I'm here and then uh otherwise
[1:51:00]
we'll turn that over to you, Matthew.
[1:51:02]
>> Okay, perfect. Thank you.
[1:51:04]
Um thanks for [clears throat] letting me
[1:51:06]
join remotely. I was unable to make it
[1:51:08]
to Grantsville this evening, so thank
[1:51:10]
you for this opportunity.
[1:51:12]
Um
[1:51:14]
Am I able Oh, it looks like I am able to
[1:51:16]
share my screen. Perfect.
[1:51:18]
Um
[1:51:20]
Okay, can everyone see my screen?
[1:51:27]
» Yes, hold on. We'll start.
[1:51:47]
Let's see.
[1:51:49]
We can see it. It's just
[1:51:51]
kind of a funny view.
[1:51:53]
>> Okay. Am I Am I good to
[1:51:56]
>> Yeah.
[1:51:56]
>> start presenting? Okay.
[1:51:59]
Um So, we've been working with the
[1:52:02]
mostly city staff for about a year now
[1:52:05]
to get this updated.
[1:52:07]
As was mentioned, this will be a part of
[1:52:09]
the general plan.
[1:52:11]
Um So, this website here will be put on
[1:52:14]
the city's website. Um
[1:52:16]
and this has all of the data from the
[1:52:18]
plan. So, it has a report. It has all of
[1:52:21]
the maps that we created with the plan
[1:52:23]
as well as some other information.
[1:52:25]
Um I believe [clears throat] McLean has
[1:52:28]
already presented to the council. That
[1:52:30]
was
[1:52:31]
I believe that was in April or May.
[1:52:35]
Um
[1:52:36]
And so, I'll keep this fairly brief
[1:52:38]
unless there are questions, but Um if
[1:52:40]
you go to this website, um you can click
[1:52:42]
on this button to get to the master plan
[1:52:44]
report. This is the actual document
[1:52:46]
that's being adopted as part of the
[1:52:48]
general plan. Um currently on the
[1:52:50]
website, um it is in a draft format just
[1:52:53]
because it hasn't been adopted. Once it
[1:52:56]
gets adopted, we will um finalize that.
[1:52:59]
It'll have all of the same information,
[1:53:01]
all the same wording. It'll just
[1:53:02]
be finalized rather than in a draft
[1:53:04]
format.
[1:53:06]
Um
[1:53:07]
And then on this website as well, um
[1:53:10]
there's these different tabs at the top.
[1:53:11]
I'll just briefly go through them. Um
[1:53:14]
this tab just gives some information
[1:53:15]
about Grantsville and some information
[1:53:17]
about why this study was done, why this
[1:53:20]
um
[1:53:22]
amendment and update to the
[1:53:23]
transportation master plan was
[1:53:25]
completed.
[1:53:26]
Um this tab has socio-economic
[1:53:30]
information on Grantsville from the
[1:53:31]
census. This is information that we used
[1:53:34]
um to determine future growth rates um
[1:53:37]
and future planning.
[1:53:39]
Um so you can have that for reference
[1:53:41]
there.
[1:53:43]
Uh and then I'm going to skip the maps
[1:53:44]
for a second. Um if you go to this
[1:53:46]
documents tab, it has links to the city
[1:53:49]
code, city land use ordinances, the
[1:53:51]
general plan for the city,
[1:53:54]
um and then also the master plan report.
[1:53:57]
And then this master plan appendix
[1:53:59]
button, that will have uh PDF copies of
[1:54:01]
all of the maps in this online website.
[1:54:05]
Uh and then this last tab is just a
[1:54:06]
definitions page uh that gives some
[1:54:09]
definitions for words that are used
[1:54:11]
throughout the plan.
[1:54:13]
Um okay.
[1:54:16]
Any questions before I hop into the
[1:54:17]
maps?
[1:54:21]
Okay, perfect.
[1:54:23]
Um so a lot of these maps are looking at
[1:54:26]
the existing road network and then a lot
[1:54:28]
of the other maps are looking at the
[1:54:29]
future build-out road network. So if you
[1:54:32]
look on the
[1:54:34]
um left side of the screen, this is
[1:54:36]
UDOT's classification of roadways
[1:54:39]
um in Grantsville. I'll zoom in.
[1:54:42]
Um and it's classified by arterial,
[1:54:44]
collector, and local roads.
[1:54:48]
Um arterial being the highest priority,
[1:54:51]
so the UDOT roads mostly right now, and
[1:54:54]
then collector roads are medium priority
[1:54:56]
roads, and then local roads are lower
[1:54:58]
priority roads, meaning um they have
[1:55:01]
lower volumes, they have lower speeds.
[1:55:04]
They're more for slower local traffic.
[1:55:08]
Um, on the right,
[1:55:10]
you can see the
[1:55:13]
future
[1:55:14]
functional classification network. So,
[1:55:17]
this is all of the
[1:55:19]
proposed locations of future collector
[1:55:22]
and arterial roads.
[1:55:24]
Um, this was a critical aspect of the
[1:55:27]
plan in determining where
[1:55:29]
um, those collector roads are going to
[1:55:31]
be to ensure that in the future we have
[1:55:35]
um, good movement of traffic.
[1:55:37]
There's not a lot of congestion.
[1:55:39]
Um, the road stay safe, and that
[1:55:41]
development occurs in the plan um,
[1:55:45]
as the as the city would like
[1:55:47]
development to occur.
[1:55:49]
Um, any questions on this map?
[1:55:57]
Okay.
[1:55:58]
And the different roads have
[1:55:59]
>> I have one quick question. The extension
[1:56:01]
of 112 to the Burmester exit.
[1:56:04]
>> Yes.
[1:56:05]
>> It's a big swoop in that. Is that
[1:56:06]
because of um, flood wetlands?
[1:56:10]
>> Yes. So, we
[1:56:11]
>> I can see that better now that it's
[1:56:13]
zoomed in. Thank you.
[1:56:13]
>> Yeah, we initially had that connecting
[1:56:15]
straight, but felt that it would be
[1:56:17]
better
[1:56:18]
to go around that.
[1:56:21]
Um,
[1:56:23]
okay, any [clears throat] other
[1:56:23]
questions?
[1:56:26]
Okay.
[1:56:28]
Um, this next map is the
[1:56:33]
uh, this is a map of all of the roads
[1:56:35]
maintained by Grantsville City. So, it
[1:56:37]
doesn't have any U dot roads or any
[1:56:39]
county roads.
[1:56:40]
Um, it's just the roads maintained by
[1:56:42]
the city. And this map is used by U dot
[1:56:45]
to determine the class B and C road
[1:56:48]
funds that the city gets allocated each
[1:56:50]
year.
[1:56:51]
Uh, so we updated this map as part of
[1:56:54]
the plan.
[1:56:55]
So, now U dot is um funding
[1:56:59]
the city based off of an accurate road
[1:57:01]
mileage.
[1:57:03]
And we would recommend continuing to
[1:57:04]
update this um map every every year.
[1:57:13]
This next map is traffic counts that we
[1:57:16]
performed. So, you can see the roads
[1:57:17]
that we performed the traffic counts on.
[1:57:19]
We use this to determine where those
[1:57:22]
critical future corridors are going to
[1:57:23]
be.
[1:57:24]
Um
[1:57:26]
you can click on these blue squares and
[1:57:28]
it'll show you the average daily traffic
[1:57:31]
on the road. So, here on uh Mormon Trail
[1:57:35]
Road or West Street, um you can see the
[1:57:37]
average daily traffic's just over 2,000
[1:57:39]
vehicles. You can also see the speeds
[1:57:41]
that we collected as well.
[1:57:44]
Um right here, the average speeds.
[1:57:46]
And then heavy truck traffic percentages
[1:57:49]
as well.
[1:57:52]
>> I just want to point out to uh Chief
[1:57:54]
Zager that we're 1 mile below the or the
[1:57:57]
speed limit is the average. So,
[1:58:00]
we're all following the law here. So,
[1:58:02]
>> [clears throat and laughter]
[1:58:03]
>> And that is one one note I will make on
[1:58:06]
the speed limit data or the speed data.
[1:58:08]
If the count was taken closer to a block
[1:58:13]
um or an intersection, the speed data
[1:58:15]
might be a little lower than if it were
[1:58:17]
taken kind of in the open. That one was
[1:58:19]
taken pretty in the open though. So,
[1:58:21]
that is good.
[1:58:24]
» That's surprising. [laughter]
[1:58:28]
» Um okay, this next map is
[1:58:33]
uh crash history map. So, you can see in
[1:58:36]
the table the crashes per year
[1:58:39]
um in Grantsville
[1:58:41]
uh by crashes without injuries, crashes
[1:58:44]
with injuries, and fatalities. And then
[1:58:46]
there's a heat map that shows kind of
[1:58:48]
those hot spots where
[1:58:50]
uh more crashes have occurred. You can
[1:58:52]
see it's on the Udot highway, that makes
[1:58:54]
sense because that's where you have your
[1:58:56]
higher speeds, that's where you have
[1:58:57]
most of your traffic. But, you can also
[1:58:59]
use it to see, okay, there may be
[1:59:01]
another intersection where there's some
[1:59:03]
higher crashes
[1:59:05]
um
[1:59:05]
that that might need to be looked at.
[1:59:08]
Um, we didn't do an intense safety
[1:59:10]
analysis as part of this plan update,
[1:59:13]
um, but that is something that could be
[1:59:14]
looked at in the future and this data
[1:59:16]
would be helpful for that.
[1:59:24]
Um, this active transportation plan,
[1:59:26]
this just shows existing multi-use bike
[1:59:29]
and pedestrian trails and planned future
[1:59:32]
um, multi-use trails.
[1:59:38]
Uh,
[1:59:40]
this map shows where the city would like
[1:59:42]
truck trucks to be routed. Um,
[1:59:47]
so, it shows some existing and some
[1:59:49]
future roads, like this road down here
[1:59:51]
does not exist yet, but once it's built,
[1:59:54]
that will be built as a truck route.
[2:00:02]
Uh, as part of the plan, we did a
[2:00:05]
an assessment of the existing pavement
[2:00:07]
condition for every road in the city.
[2:00:10]
Um, so you can see here there's a grade
[2:00:12]
on a scale of 0 to 100. It's kind of
[2:00:15]
like school, if you're
[2:00:17]
the higher you are, the better your
[2:00:19]
grade is. Um,
[2:00:20]
and so the greener the road, the better
[2:00:22]
condition it is, the redder it is, the
[2:00:24]
worst condition it is.
[2:00:26]
And so, we have
[2:00:27]
um,
[2:00:28]
each road, we completed that assessment.
[2:00:31]
You can click on the specific road and
[2:00:33]
see the specific detailed grade.
[2:00:36]
Um, and then we used that information to
[2:00:39]
create this next map
[2:00:42]
which
[2:00:44]
um,
[2:00:46]
created a phasing plan for
[2:00:49]
um
[2:00:50]
providing treatment to each road in the
[2:00:52]
city.
[2:00:53]
And you can look at each specific phase
[2:00:57]
um and see which projects are included
[2:00:59]
in that phase, which type of project, um
[2:01:02]
the estimated cost of the project, and
[2:01:05]
the estimated scope of the project.
[2:01:11]
Any Any questions on this roadway
[2:01:14]
treatment plan?
[2:01:21]
Okay.
[2:01:22]
It's a really good tool for
[2:01:24]
um
[2:01:25]
transparency um to help inform the
[2:01:28]
public of the to make them know that the
[2:01:30]
city is aware of certain concerns with
[2:01:33]
existing pavement condition and that
[2:01:35]
there is a plan in place.
[2:01:39]
Um
[2:01:40]
Okay, this last
[2:01:43]
Well, so this This is the transportation
[2:01:45]
improvement plan. So, this just shows
[2:01:47]
the critical corridors to be built in
[2:01:50]
the future. So, we did a traffic model
[2:01:54]
that went out to 2050.
[2:01:56]
And we determined which roads are
[2:01:58]
critical to be built by 2050, and you
[2:02:01]
can see we've divided it into three
[2:02:02]
phases.
[2:02:04]
Um
[2:02:05]
>> [clears throat]
[2:02:05]
>> And so, by phase three, all of these
[2:02:07]
roads you see,
[2:02:08]
we determined these are critical
[2:02:10]
corridors that need to be built
[2:02:12]
uh in order to
[2:02:15]
uh have a free-flowing traffic network
[2:02:18]
without a lot of congestion that's safe
[2:02:21]
and reliable.
[2:02:22]
Um
[2:02:24]
And you can click on each road here in
[2:02:26]
the map to see
[2:02:28]
how many lanes we anticipate it will
[2:02:29]
need to have,
[2:02:31]
and then
[2:02:32]
who would be responsible for building
[2:02:35]
that road when it comes down to it.
[2:02:41]
Um then these last maps are level of
[2:02:44]
service maps. So, this just shows with
[2:02:47]
the traffic modeling how well the roads
[2:02:48]
are functioning. So, this is the
[2:02:50]
existing map.
[2:02:51]
Um, 2025, you can see there's
[2:02:55]
just like with the pavement condition,
[2:02:56]
red is worse, green is better.
[2:02:58]
Um, you can see the highways are a
[2:03:00]
little congested on the east side of the
[2:03:02]
city.
[2:03:04]
And so, we with those planned corridors,
[2:03:06]
if you go to 2050,
[2:03:09]
if you look [clears throat] at this left
[2:03:10]
side,
[2:03:11]
you can see,
[2:03:14]
you know, we've been able to improve a
[2:03:15]
lot of that just by adding in more
[2:03:17]
corridors, widening certain roads. Um,
[2:03:21]
like the highway, we recommend that that
[2:03:22]
should be widened.
[2:03:24]
And then,
[2:03:25]
you can see [clears throat] on the left,
[2:03:26]
this is if it's improved, and on the
[2:03:29]
right if it's not improved, what it will
[2:03:31]
look like.
[2:03:34]
Um, so this just creates a tool for the
[2:03:36]
city moving forward to know
[2:03:38]
where what are the critical corridors.
[2:03:40]
Um, so for development, uh, you can
[2:03:44]
ensure that when developers come in and
[2:03:46]
develop that those critical corridors
[2:03:48]
are maintained, so that you have um, a
[2:03:51]
healthy traffic network in the future.
[2:03:56]
So, that's the that's the bulk of the
[2:03:58]
plan. Those are the maps, um, that we
[2:04:00]
created as a result of all of the data.
[2:04:03]
If you look in the report, that mostly
[2:04:05]
just has all of the raw data from the
[2:04:07]
plan. Uh, it's about I don't know, 70
[2:04:10]
pages, I think. So,
[2:04:13]
oh, it's only 50 pages, nice. So, but if
[2:04:16]
you want to read through the raw data
[2:04:17]
report, you can look at that as well,
[2:04:19]
but
[2:04:20]
um, any questions for me?
[2:04:27]
» Any questions?
[2:04:30]
Thank you for your presentation.
[2:04:32]
>> Yeah, thanks for the opportunity to work
[2:04:34]
on this project. It's been a good
[2:04:35]
project.
[2:04:44]
» Anybody have any concerns with the transportation master plan?
[2:04:51]
» Oh, you can spend a lot of time getting
[2:04:53]
all
[2:04:54]
getting it out on roads in there. I I I
[2:04:56]
thought they did a great job showing
[2:05:00]
There there's some interesting things as
[2:05:02]
you look at this, you know, specifically
[2:05:04]
I-80.
[2:05:06]
How it how it maintains yellow and red
[2:05:08]
even with the build out. So, you know,
[2:05:10]
as we look within our our district and
[2:05:15]
really as we look within
[2:05:17]
you know, inner connectivity to the
[2:05:19]
other valley, there's going to need to
[2:05:20]
be
[2:05:21]
either a major expansion of I-80 or
[2:05:25]
high rail or other other factors coming
[2:05:27]
to this valley to make it
[2:05:31]
you know, functional for us. But
[2:05:32]
>> Yeah. All of the above.
[2:05:35]
>> So.
[2:05:37]
Anyway, yeah, I thought they did did a
[2:05:39]
good job.
[2:05:42]
And this syncs in with the data from
[2:05:44]
UDOT cuz we got separate data from them,
[2:05:46]
too. Were those Did those two studies
[2:05:49]
connect? Maybe that's a question.
[2:05:53]
We lose
[2:05:53]
>> Um
[2:05:54]
there was a bit [clears throat] of
[2:05:55]
overlap. Uh we had for all of our
[2:05:58]
coordination meetings with the city,
[2:06:00]
there were representatives of UDOT there
[2:06:02]
to ensure that
[2:06:04]
um for the UDOT corridors, those were
[2:06:06]
planned out in the right location and
[2:06:08]
that we were consistent with their
[2:06:09]
planning.
[2:06:12]
>> Perfect.
[2:06:18]
» Yes, Matthew, two things I've noticed
[2:06:20]
that we probably need to have you update
[2:06:22]
is on this map the level of service, the
[2:06:25]
one well going north need to be
[2:06:28]
readjusted
[2:06:30]
to the right location like you had on
[2:06:31]
the original, the first one.
[2:06:34]
And then probably in the truck route,
[2:06:38]
since you had the the deep North Temple
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Road added there, you probably would
[2:06:42]
want the 112 going north to go straight
[2:06:45]
that same route, add it to the truck
[2:06:48]
route.
[2:06:50]
Okay.
[2:06:51]
Yeah, that's that's something those are
[2:06:53]
some updates we can make.
[2:07:22]
» Mayor, I'll make [clears throat] a
[2:07:22]
motion we approve resolution 2026-49
[2:07:26]
approving the 2026 update to the
[2:07:29]
Grantsville City transportation master
[2:07:31]
plan with the updates that our city
[2:07:33]
manager
[2:07:35]
just ex- just suggested.
[2:07:37]
>> Okay, we have a motion by Council member
[2:07:39]
Dalton. Is there a second?
[2:07:40]
>> I second it.
[2:07:41]
>> A second by Council member Williams. All
[2:07:43]
in favor.
[2:07:44]
>> Aye.
[2:07:46]
>> All right.
[2:07:49]
Item number 14, a consideration of
[2:07:51]
resolution 2026-50
[2:07:53]
approving the pickup of member
[2:07:55]
contributions for Tier 2 public safety
[2:07:57]
and firefighter
[2:07:59]
contributory retirement system and
[2:08:01]
authorizing the related employer
[2:08:03]
election form.
[2:08:06]
» I should be online.
[2:08:07]
>> Mhm.
[2:08:22]
» Are you there, Heidi?
[2:08:22]
>> Mayor.
[2:08:23]
>> I am. Good evening, Mayor and Council.
[2:08:28]
Can you guys hear me okay?
[2:08:30]
>> We can, yes.
[2:08:31]
>> Perfect. So, historically, the city has
[2:08:35]
picked up the public safety tier two
[2:08:39]
contribution employee contribution. It's
[2:08:42]
been at 4.73%.
[2:08:44]
It is increasing to 5.98%.
[2:08:49]
The city can opt to continue picking
[2:08:51]
that up for our officers or pass that on
[2:08:54]
to the officers.
[2:08:55]
I would recommend, obviously, to pick
[2:08:57]
that up.
[2:08:59]
To continue what we've done
[2:09:00]
historically. This will allow our
[2:09:02]
officers to keep more of their take-home
[2:09:05]
pay.
[2:09:07]
Keeps us competitive with other agencies
[2:09:09]
as well.
[2:09:15]
» Can you go over the the cost, I think by
[2:09:17]
the Heidi?
[2:09:18]
>> Yeah, of course. So, if we do opt to
[2:09:20]
pick up the the additional cost, it
[2:09:24]
would cost the city of Pop approximately
[2:09:26]
$13,395
[2:09:30]
annually.
[2:09:32]
That is if we keep the same exact number
[2:09:35]
of officers we have
[2:09:37]
that are in
[2:09:39]
the tier two
[2:09:42]
system.
[2:09:48]
I did look at what other cities are
[2:09:50]
doing. Um, there was 82
[2:09:53]
different um, responses that were in
[2:09:56]
there. 30 said that they were picking
[2:09:59]
that up.
[2:10:01]
12 said they were not picking it up, and
[2:10:04]
eight of them
[2:10:06]
were pending pick up.
[2:10:10]
To be determined, some were unknown, and
[2:10:12]
then there was some no responses in
[2:10:14]
there as well.
[2:10:25]
» And just so you guys are aware, this
[2:10:27]
isn't this isn't an additional benefit
[2:10:30]
or a new benefit.
[2:10:32]
Um
[2:10:33]
it is that the city has been doing since
[2:10:38]
well
[2:10:39]
2020 was when I went back to. We were at
[2:10:42]
2.27%.
[2:10:50]
» Uh question Heidi, so you're saying if
[2:10:52]
we don't pick this up the officers are
[2:10:53]
going to be mandatory required then to
[2:10:55]
they would have to contribute then to
[2:10:57]
the URS. They would be required.
[2:10:58]
>> Yes, that is correct.
[2:11:01]
>> And
[2:11:02]
from what
[2:11:02]
>> And they cannot opt out.
[2:11:05]
>> Yes, okay.
[2:11:07]
This is the
[2:11:08]
other states do this where they you
[2:11:09]
force the officers to contribute to the URS system and it does it's
[2:11:13]
mandatory. They don't have a choice. It
[2:11:15]
takes it out of their pay.
[2:11:17]
>> That is correct.
[2:11:18]
>> It would be a pay cut for our officers
[2:11:19]
if we if we didn't pick this up.
[2:11:23]
I mean it
[2:11:24]
because they would it would it would be
[2:11:25]
going to their retirement but it would
[2:11:27]
be mandatory. They wouldn't have the option to not
[2:11:31]
contribute to that.
[2:11:35]
» That is correct. This isn't an optional
[2:11:39]
benefit for them. It's something that
[2:11:42]
they have to pay into and it's part of
[2:11:44]
their pension. So the money doesn't go
[2:11:46]
directly into their pocket. It goes into
[2:11:48]
their pension. So once they retire
[2:11:51]
that's part of their the pension
[2:11:53]
benefit.
[2:11:59]
» So I assume we don't have this increase
[2:12:01]
in our new budget that we've worked on,
[2:12:04]
correct?
[2:12:05]
Cuz we didn't
[2:12:07]
did we know it was going to 5.98%?
[2:12:10]
As
[2:12:11]
>> Mm, sorry. Uh Heidi can talk in a
[2:12:13]
second. [clears throat] But no, so it's
[2:12:15]
not in the current um
[2:12:17]
interim budget that you guys approved
[2:12:19]
earlier. I mean, we have
[2:12:21]
budget for police officers for their
[2:12:23]
benefits and stuff. So, we'll be able to
[2:12:24]
pick it up immediately, but I actually
[2:12:26]
have an email drafted to Heidi right now
[2:12:29]
to just get together with her to get if
[2:12:31]
it's approved to get the official amount
[2:12:33]
and then I would come to you at our
[2:12:34]
first meeting in July with that budget
[2:12:36]
amendment. So, it'd be like the July
[2:12:38]
15th meeting, but
[2:12:40]
>> And Heidi said it'd be around $13,000.
[2:12:42]
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[2:12:43]
>> She said if we don't pick up any more
[2:12:45]
officers, but we haven't approved any
[2:12:47]
more officers this year, so
[2:12:48]
>> Correct. So, we would we would only be
[2:12:50]
budgeting for the current staffed
[2:12:51]
officers at this time um because there
[2:12:53]
wasn't any approved increases for
[2:12:56]
additional staffing. So,
[2:12:57]
>> sent us this number so it's not very
[2:12:59]
significant earlier. Otherwise, we would
[2:13:01]
have picked that
[2:13:02]
in the budget.
[2:13:02]
>> Yeah.
[2:13:05]
» Is this a typical increase year-to-year
[2:13:07]
type thing? Is this uh
[2:13:10]
um
[2:13:10]
>> Are you going to give the background on
[2:13:12]
how URS comes up with that?
[2:13:14]
>> Yeah, give us a little retirement
[2:13:15]
history on that program.
[2:13:16]
>> Yeah, it Of course. Yeah, so in 2020
[2:13:22]
2021 it was 2.7%,
[2:13:24]
2022 was 2.59,
[2:13:28]
2023 was also 2.59,
[2:13:31]
2024 it jumped to 4.73,
[2:13:35]
2025 4.73,
[2:13:37]
and then it jumped up again to 5.98.
[2:13:42]
» So, we're looking at like a 1.2
[2:13:45]
>> 1.2 1.25
[2:13:47]
>> percent increase.
[2:13:48]
yeah. Yes.
[2:14:15]
» So, another dumb question. Do we have
[2:14:16]
the option to
[2:14:18]
say we'll pay the 4.73%
[2:14:21]
we budgeted
[2:14:23]
and make them pay the 1.98%
[2:14:26]
that we haven't considered?
[2:14:27]
>> Absolutely.
[2:14:28]
>> Yes.
[2:14:30]
you can.
[2:14:32]
>> But, again, that's going to put
[2:14:34]
cuz they have to like mandatory, so
[2:14:36]
that'll just come out of their portion
[2:14:38]
of their paycheck they're taking off.
[2:14:47]
» This is something that's straight across
[2:14:49]
the board, whether it be to public
[2:14:51]
safety or tier two or
[2:14:54]
public employees tier two as well. They
[2:14:56]
have a They have an increase also that
[2:14:59]
the employees are picking up. The only
[2:15:02]
difference is this The city's not
[2:15:03]
allowed to pick up the public employee,
[2:15:05]
but they can pick up public safety.
[2:15:10]
» Is there not an increase for tier one?
[2:15:12]
>> No, there is not.
[2:15:18]
» But, we we do pick up tier one.
[2:15:21]
>> There is not a Tier one and tier two are
[2:15:23]
a different They're a different entity.
[2:15:26]
They They work a little bit different,
[2:15:28]
and no, they don't have an employee
[2:15:30]
portion.
[2:15:33]
» Oh, I because they have the benefit of
[2:15:34]
already
[2:15:35]
>> They were in there before they
[2:15:36]
>> in there Yeah.
[2:15:37]
>> Correct.
[2:15:39]
Yeah, their benefit fits are a little
[2:15:40]
bit different.
[2:15:54]
» I think it's probably a good thing. I
[2:15:55]
think the timing's crappy
[2:15:57]
>> Yeah.
[2:15:57]
>> cuz we spent
[2:16:00]
3 months hashing out a budget, and then
[2:16:02]
the night of approval.
[2:16:05]
So,
[2:16:07]
Yeah.
[2:16:08]
That's just my feelings.
[2:16:10]
>> Well, and I mean everybody knows mine is
[2:16:12]
transparency. Obviously, my husband's in
[2:16:14]
law enforcement, so I mean he's ran for
[2:16:16]
public safety, so
[2:16:18]
But I know these guys work hard and I
[2:16:19]
can I I always support fire and law
[2:16:22]
enforcement. Um and this would be a huge
[2:16:24]
change for them. This is not something
[2:16:26]
that And it wouldn't they wouldn't see
[2:16:27]
it in their if if we said it if we if we
[2:16:29]
said we're going to pick this up, they
[2:16:30]
don't see any difference in their
[2:16:31]
paychecks. We're not giving them a
[2:16:32]
raise. We're we're doing what we have to
[2:16:35]
do to match what URS is giving them. Um
[2:16:37]
so they can keep that pension and not
[2:16:39]
have it come out of their pocket. But
[2:16:41]
that's always
[2:16:42]
most of the cities I've seen have been
[2:16:43]
doing that. Most departments.
[2:16:45]
I guess. I shouldn't say all because
[2:16:46]
obviously Heidi said there's some that
[2:16:48]
haven't, but um it's a benefit in Utah.
[2:16:50]
Like, you know, I know Arizona doesn't
[2:16:52]
and that was a pay cut for us when we
[2:16:53]
moved to Arizona because the state does
[2:16:55]
require you to do that. And it's hard
[2:16:57]
for some of these younger guys who, you
[2:16:59]
know, of course they're probably not
[2:17:00]
thinking about retirement and they
[2:17:01]
shouldn't, but if you're suddenly saying
[2:17:02]
now you must contribute and it's $13,000
[2:17:05]
a year.
[2:17:06]
It's unfortunate that they increase this
[2:17:08]
and we don't have a
[2:17:10]
say in that, but
[2:17:12]
that's my
[2:17:13]
uh
[2:17:23]
» Yeah, I mean if you look at the numbers
[2:17:25]
what other people are doing, you've got
[2:17:26]
the you've got 30 that are saying yes,
[2:17:29]
we're picking it up and you have eight
[2:17:31]
who are pending
[2:17:33]
and 12 who say no, we're not picking
[2:17:35]
that additional up.
[2:17:38]
>> So for of the 12, are you saying they're
[2:17:40]
just keeping the 4.73 and they're making
[2:17:41]
the officers pay the difference?
[2:17:44]
>> Correct. But they also
[2:17:46]
if you if I was to look at those cities,
[2:17:49]
they could be paying more than a 3%
[2:17:52]
cola. They could also be paying a merit
[2:17:54]
as well.
[2:17:56]
So it's hard to compare kind of apples
[2:17:58]
to apples on this.
[2:18:00]
>> [clears throat]
[2:18:07]
» Jack, did you have something you wanted
[2:18:08]
to say?
[2:18:08]
>> No, I was just saying I'm kind of in
[2:18:09]
line with Jeff's thoughts. So, you know,
[2:18:12]
it it's timing timing, but
[2:18:15]
>> [clears throat]
[2:18:17]
» Derek?
[2:18:18]
>> I don't like to put the pressure back
[2:18:20]
there.
[2:18:20]
>> I'm just torn.
[2:18:22]
>> So.
[2:18:23]
>> I don't know.
[2:18:25]
I mean
[2:18:26]
they do great. They're all amazing, but
[2:18:30]
just
[2:18:31]
the timing is what is
[2:18:42]
» Yeah, timing, but I yeah, I I also feel
[2:18:44]
it should be put on their shoulders, in
[2:18:47]
my opinion. So.
[2:18:51]
I think we can find a way to do it.
[2:19:07]
» Mayor, I move that we approve resolution
[2:19:09]
2026-50 approving the pick-up of member
[2:19:12]
contributions for tier two public safety
[2:19:13]
and firefighter contributory retirement
[2:19:15]
system and authorizing the related
[2:19:17]
employer election form.
[2:19:21]
>> We have a motion by Council member
[2:19:22]
Skinner. Is there a second?
[2:19:26]
» I second.
[2:19:27]
>> We have a second by Council member
[2:19:28]
Thomas. All in favor?
[2:19:31]
>> I.
[2:19:34]
>> All opposed?
[2:19:36]
>> Nay.
[2:19:38]
>> Okay, we'll do a roll call. Council
[2:19:39]
member Thomas.
[2:19:40]
>> I.
[2:19:41]
>> Dalton.
[2:19:42]
>> I.
[2:19:43]
>> Skinner.
[2:19:43]
>> I.
[2:19:44]
>> Uh Williams.
[2:19:45]
>> Nay.
[2:19:47]
>> All right.
[2:19:49]
Moving on to item
[2:19:51]
>> say nay because of I would agree to the
[2:19:53]
4.73 that we budgeted. It's just the
[2:19:56]
additional. So.
[2:19:58]
just wanted to state that.
[2:19:59]
>> Okay. Thank you.
[2:20:01]
Item number 15, consideration of an
[2:20:03]
authorization to execute a memorandum of
[2:20:06]
understanding with the Tooele Technical
[2:20:07]
College.
[2:20:11]
» Um
[2:20:12]
I'll speak a little bit. We have the um
[2:20:15]
Jess affiliated with the Technical
[2:20:16]
College here.
[2:20:17]
>> Thanks, Jess, for sticking with us this
[2:20:19]
whole time.
[2:20:20]
>> We do appreciate [laughter]
[2:20:21]
that.
[2:20:22]
Uh with the budget cuts, we did cut uh
[2:20:25]
the Technical College for the small
[2:20:27]
business amounts. We were contributing
[2:20:29]
$20,000
[2:20:31]
to that small business alliance. We cut
[2:20:32]
that down to 5,000.
[2:20:34]
And so, this is the updated memorandum
[2:20:37]
to clarify that and then then put it as
[2:20:40]
a yearly um review is what we we've
[2:20:43]
agreed to and they they've agreed to
[2:20:46]
make that change. And so, they're going
[2:20:47]
to come now yearly to us and kind of
[2:20:50]
again, depending on how much um
[2:20:53]
uh and uh
[2:20:56]
growth we see as a city from residential
[2:20:58]
to our uh retail type thing and
[2:21:01]
industrial, maybe we can up that number
[2:21:03]
in the future. Cuz we do want to
[2:21:05]
recognize that our that that
[2:21:06]
contribution that they have to the small
[2:21:09]
businesses and what they bring to
[2:21:10]
Grantsville is is uh is is huge and we
[2:21:13]
want to keep that program going unless
[2:21:15]
the council directs otherwise. But,
[2:21:17]
staff felt that that's a very important
[2:21:19]
program for our small businesses and
[2:21:21]
their contribution to that.
[2:21:23]
So, we didn't want to exclude that
[2:21:24]
entirely. And so, if you have you have
[2:21:26]
any questions about the small business
[2:21:28]
alliance, Jess is here to answer those.
[2:21:30]
Otherwise, the the memorandum's just
[2:21:32]
going to be changing it and reducing it
[2:21:34]
from the 20,000 to the 5,000 and then to
[2:21:37]
a yearly basis.
[2:21:48]
» And I I would also like to echo
[2:21:51]
Michael's statement that we we do
[2:21:53]
recognize and appreciate the
[2:21:55]
contributions of the Tooele Technical
[2:21:57]
College and
[2:21:58]
all that they do for our county and our
[2:22:00]
city.
[2:22:02]
>> May I address the council?
[2:22:03]
>> You sure may. Yes.
[2:22:08]
» I want to thank uh the manager for his uh his handling
[2:22:13]
of this and I just want to take a minute
[2:22:15]
and thank Grantsville City for the
[2:22:17]
support that you give to small
[2:22:19]
businesses.
[2:22:21]
Um it makes a lot possible.
[2:22:23]
Um
[2:22:25]
at the SBDC and Tooele Technical
[2:22:27]
College, we're not unsympathetic to the
[2:22:29]
challenges that your city's facing right
[2:22:31]
now.
[2:22:32]
Uh we know and and we get it and uh and
[2:22:35]
we want to be there with you on it.
[2:22:38]
So uh we understand this and and and and
[2:22:41]
I just want to say that that we're
[2:22:43]
nothing but grateful
[2:22:44]
uh for your willingness to continue to
[2:22:47]
support those small businesses.
[2:22:49]
Um I don't know if they were able to get
[2:22:51]
the report that I shared with you.
[2:22:53]
Or
[2:22:54]
>> Not yet.
[2:22:54]
>> Okay. I I brought copies. I'll leave
[2:22:56]
them with uh with the manager um
[2:23:01]
to give you an an idea of what the
[2:23:02]
impact has been since we started uh in
[2:23:06]
2018 in Grantsville City specifically so
[2:23:09]
you can see that.
[2:23:11]
Um I don't share that with you as any
[2:23:13]
kind of leverage or anything but uh I
[2:23:15]
come every year in the fall to to report
[2:23:19]
on our impact and I'm looking forward to
[2:23:21]
doing that again this year.
[2:23:23]
Um but I just want to say thank you
[2:23:26]
and I'll leave this information with you
[2:23:29]
that uh that might be uh helpful to you
[2:23:32]
and wish you well. We want to be a part
[2:23:34]
of the solution
[2:23:35]
uh in any way that we can uh for the
[2:23:38]
challenges that you're facing.
[2:23:41]
And we're fully confident that those are
[2:23:43]
going to be resolved and look forward to
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uh future partnerships. So uh thank you
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again.
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>> Thank you. Thanks, Jess.
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» We need a motion to pass this uh just an
[2:24:11]
authorization to execute. Is that what
[2:24:13]
we're doing? Okay.
[2:24:14]
>> I make a motion um
[2:24:18]
that we authorize the execution of a
[2:24:20]
memorandum of understanding with Utah
[2:24:22]
Technical College.
[2:24:24]
>> Okay, we have a motion. Is there a
[2:24:25]
second? A motion by Council member
[2:24:27]
Williams. Is there a second?
[2:24:29]
>> I'll second.
[2:24:30]
>> A second by Council member Dalton. All
[2:24:31]
in favor?
[2:24:32]
>> I I
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>> All right.
[2:24:37]
Item number 16, a consideration of
[2:24:39]
resolution 2026-43
[2:24:42]
approving the Utah Wildfire Resources
[2:24:44]
Memorandum of Understanding between the
[2:24:46]
Utah Division of Forestry, Fire, and
[2:24:48]
State Lands and the Grantsville
[2:24:50]
Volunteer Fire Department.
[2:24:54]
» Hello.
[2:24:55]
>> Mayor, Council members. Jason Remy, Fire
[2:24:57]
Chief, Grantsville Fire. So, this res-
[2:25:00]
resolution seeks support of approval for
[2:25:03]
an
[2:25:04]
MOU between the Grantsville Volunteer
[2:25:06]
Fire Department, Grantsville City, and
[2:25:08]
the Utah Division of Forestry, Fire, and State Lands.
[2:25:12]
The purpose of this MOU is to formalize
[2:25:14]
how all all fire resources are
[2:25:16]
coordinated and utilized between our
[2:25:19]
city and the state.
[2:25:21]
So, this should have come in with the
[2:25:24]
I just lost my train of thought.
[2:25:27]
>> Cooperation
[2:25:27]
>> The cooperation agreement that we
[2:25:29]
approved
[2:25:30]
>> a month ago.
[2:25:31]
>> Yeah.
[2:25:31]
>> A month ago.
[2:25:32]
This should have been with that. So,
[2:25:34]
it's just an addition to that. So,
[2:25:36]
it's how we work with the state and when
[2:25:38]
we go out on a wildland fires, they pay
[2:25:40]
us.
[2:25:41]
>> That's what I was curious. I was like we
[2:25:43]
I think we got how we nailed this one,
[2:25:45]
but it's
[2:25:46]
>> Yeah, they didn't send this extra
[2:25:47]
[clears throat] documents.
[2:25:48]
>> Yeah, okay.
[2:25:51]
» So, we're just seeking approval for
[2:25:55]
the mayor or city manager to sign it and
[2:25:57]
send it back to state.
[2:26:01]
» They do this every year, right? Same
[2:26:02]
thing.
[2:26:03]
>> Yeah.
[2:26:08]
Any discussion?
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Mayor make a motion motion we move to
[2:26:12]
approve resolution 2026-43 approving the
[2:26:15]
Utah Wildfire Resources Memorandum of
[2:26:18]
Understanding between Utah Division of
[2:26:19]
Forestry, Fire, and State Lands and our
[2:26:22]
fabulous Grantsville Volunteer Fire
[2:26:24]
Department.
[2:26:25]
>> We have a motion by Council member
[2:26:27]
Thomas. Is there a second?
[2:26:29]
>> I'll second that.
[2:26:30]
>> Second by Council member Skinner. All in
[2:26:31]
favor?
[2:26:32]
>> Aye.
[2:26:35]
>> All right.
[2:26:38]
Uh agenda item number 17 is Council
[2:26:41]
reports.
[2:26:43]
Um I'll start with
[2:26:45]
Jake.
[2:26:47]
» Um I I give I'll go quick. Uh
[2:26:51]
update on obviously
[2:26:55]
the Memorial Park is moving forward um
[2:26:58]
in anticipation of trying to get that
[2:26:59]
closer to being finished by the 4th of
[2:27:01]
July. I don't know if we'll we'll reach
[2:27:02]
that or not, but the the name walls have
[2:27:04]
been poured. The
[2:27:06]
plinth um
[2:27:08]
has been
[2:27:10]
uh foundation has been poured, and then
[2:27:12]
they were in the in the process of
[2:27:14]
laying out the Purple Heart.
[2:27:16]
Um
[2:27:17]
Uh and so uh progress moving along well
[2:27:20]
in that. It's It's It's looking great.
[2:27:24]
Um
[2:27:25]
I had something that I was going to
[2:27:27]
address specifically on that, but now I
[2:27:28]
can't remember what it was, but um
[2:27:32]
yeah, that first phase is moving is
[2:27:34]
moving there. We're going to have some
[2:27:35]
challenges after we achieve that first
[2:27:38]
phase and and kind of where we go next.
[2:27:41]
Um
[2:27:42]
but yeah, getting those primary
[2:27:44]
components in is is
[2:27:47]
it's moving forward. I know that
[2:27:48]
is exciting for many who have
[2:27:51]
a lot of time in.
[2:27:52]
Uh they
[2:27:54]
uh we've seen some preliminary
[2:27:57]
uh they're going to have a miniature
[2:27:59]
version of the statue.
[2:28:02]
Um and I believe they'll have that for
[2:28:03]
the 4th of July, so you can you can see
[2:28:05]
that. Uh it was they they started the
[2:28:07]
clay process and he brought that to
[2:28:10]
uh one of the meetings. Specifically,
[2:28:12]
it's it's going to fit in Grantsville.
[2:28:15]
Almost it it looks Grantsville. So, um so you'll get to see I know they've
[2:28:20]
got renderings of it, but
[2:28:22]
[clears throat] it
[2:28:23]
it's amazing the uh amount of detail
[2:28:26]
that goes into
[2:28:28]
creating a statue right down to
[2:28:30]
measuring
[2:28:31]
the firearm, the length of the firearm,
[2:28:34]
how, you know,
[2:28:35]
and this is all modeled after um
[2:28:38]
individuals, and so
[2:28:40]
uh really really going to be a neat
[2:28:42]
feature. Uh you'll get to see what the
[2:28:44]
statue will look like uh for the 4th of
[2:28:47]
July. They'll have that. Um
[2:28:49]
in the booth. So, encourage people to
[2:28:51]
take a look at that. Um
[2:28:55]
We've got uh we've had several discussions with
[2:28:59]
regarding the
[2:29:01]
uh use of the park and and to report
[2:29:05]
uh that is is moving forward. More more
[2:29:09]
information to come on that, probably
[2:29:11]
following following us another report
[2:29:13]
after some internal meetings.
[2:29:15]
Um
[2:29:18]
We started uh
[2:29:20]
we had our first economic development uh
[2:29:23]
meeting. Thanks to all those who were
[2:29:24]
involved in that. Um
[2:29:27]
and
[2:29:28]
pushing that further forward um and
[2:29:31]
growing that to try to ensure we're
[2:29:33]
supporting
[2:29:34]
that we're we're doing a better up you know, we're
[2:29:38]
looking for a better opportunity to
[2:29:41]
hopefully lower the tax
[2:29:43]
uh
[2:29:44]
taxes that are issued to individuals and
[2:29:46]
try to help
[2:29:47]
more businesses [snorts] come in and
[2:29:49]
help carry some of that burden for our residents. So,
[2:29:54]
uh that's encouraging and moving
[2:29:55]
forward. So, lots of good stuff.
[2:29:58]
>> All right, thanks Jake Dark.
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>> [clears throat]
[2:30:00]
>> I don't know how much. Um I did just
[2:30:02]
kind of have a question. Um I was at
[2:30:03]
Scenic Slopes and it looks great by the
[2:30:06]
way. It's amazing, but it's still an
[2:30:08]
active construction zone. And so, my
[2:30:10]
just my question was I saw about 10 15
[2:30:12]
kids
[2:30:14]
using that that pump track. And I didn't
[2:30:16]
know if we were trying to
[2:30:18]
get them off, avoid it, or what what are we on that? I just feel like
[2:30:23]
there might be a liability with
[2:30:25]
>> You think? Yeah.
[2:30:26]
>> [laughter]
[2:30:27]
>> It's real popular already and has been
[2:30:29]
discussed
[2:30:30]
multiple times in the Scenic Slopes park
[2:30:33]
and our meetings. Um
[2:30:36]
It's there.
[2:30:38]
It yes.
[2:30:40]
>> But it it has a fence around it right
[2:30:41]
now, but
[2:30:42]
the liability is on the
[2:30:46]
contractor cuz we have instructed him to
[2:30:49]
fence it up or put a barricade or some
[2:30:52]
sort of
[2:30:53]
blockage there, but he's again hasn't
[2:30:56]
done that. We can The council really
[2:30:58]
wants us to get him to put in the fence.
[2:31:00]
That might cost more money to do it
[2:31:01]
around the entire park.
[2:31:03]
Or you do enforcement, but then how do
[2:31:05]
you enforce that 24/7?
[2:31:09]
» I mean it's great it's being used, but I
[2:31:11]
saw it and I was just like
[2:31:12]
>> I don't disagree. I don't know about
[2:31:14]
that.
[2:31:14]
>> [laughter]
[2:31:14]
>> I've been there twice and the two times
[2:31:16]
I've been there
[2:31:17]
20 individuals and I I say guys you're
[2:31:19]
not supposed to be out here.
[2:31:21]
You know, and it's and they're just
[2:31:24]
I mean
[2:31:25]
don't go home and look at your tablets,
[2:31:27]
right? Like
[2:31:28]
>> [laughter]
[2:31:29]
>> You're out here You're out here using
[2:31:30]
something that we, you know, we're
[2:31:32]
building.
[2:31:33]
I I appreciate you brought it up. So, I'd
[2:31:36]
just say concern.
[2:31:38]
>> I can look into it. So, I wasn't super
[2:31:39]
good at the contract.
[2:31:40]
>> Can we just reiterate it again and get
[2:31:42]
it on the record that we have concern there.
[2:31:45]
>> I mean, it's it's encouraging to see all
[2:31:47]
those kids there. It's going to get
[2:31:48]
used. So, it'd be nice if we could just
[2:31:50]
get get that area finished and so
[2:31:54]
That's all.
[2:31:54]
>> It is looking good that way. It's
[2:31:55]
looking good. It's amazing.
[2:31:59]
» Great.
[2:31:59]
>> Not much on my mind. We did Tula County
[2:32:01]
Board of Health in there last month and
[2:32:03]
went over, which was fun. We all drove
[2:32:04]
out there.
[2:32:05]
Well, Eric Stromberg flew out there, but
[2:32:08]
>> [laughter]
[2:32:08]
>> So, it was fun. It was fun to go out to
[2:32:09]
Wendover. Um
[2:32:11]
and the Tula County Board of Health has
[2:32:13]
they I From what I've learned, they have
[2:32:15]
a lot of resources. Like, they have a
[2:32:16]
dentist office there that I didn't know.
[2:32:18]
People so, I don't know if the citizens
[2:32:19]
of Grantsville know, you can go get
[2:32:20]
low-cost I don't know all what they
[2:32:22]
have, but they actually have a dentist
[2:32:23]
office at the Board of Health. So,
[2:32:26]
that was interesting. They just talked a
[2:32:27]
little bit about the measles, how
[2:32:29]
they're containing that and things like
[2:32:31]
that. Um
[2:32:32]
They're getting ready to do their big
[2:32:34]
assessment. The the Board of Health is
[2:32:35]
now doing their data gathering. We also
[2:32:37]
joined a Utah Well-Being Project. They
[2:32:39]
were kind of pushing us to do that,
[2:32:40]
which sounds like Grantsville did great.
[2:32:42]
I haven't got the the data all back on
[2:32:44]
that yet, but um
[2:32:46]
We put that We put that out very quickly
[2:32:47]
cuz they were wanting us to do that, but
[2:32:48]
it sounds like overall it was positive.
[2:32:50]
We got a good response from the citizens. So,
[2:32:53]
I think we'll meet again next month and
[2:32:55]
get an update.
[2:32:56]
>> Great.
[2:32:57]
Jeff.
[2:32:58]
>> Um I did I mean, the mosquito abatement
[2:33:01]
board is such a small thing, but they
[2:33:03]
did spray for our rodeo, I think. And
[2:33:05]
for that, they I don't know if you guys
[2:33:08]
know, but they do spray our parks
[2:33:11]
prior to our fourth activities. So, that
[2:33:14]
is um
[2:33:15]
they know our dates that we begin
[2:33:17]
and they will spray accordingly the
[2:33:19]
parks a week before that. So,
[2:33:22]
I The football team thanks you, by the
[2:33:24]
way.
[2:33:25]
>> Yeah.
[2:33:26]
>> [laughter]
[2:33:26]
>> They're pretty much
[2:33:29]
do what we
[2:33:30]
I didn't say that right. They're very
[2:33:33]
If we ask them to spray an area, they'll
[2:33:35]
spray an area. So, if anyone just text
[2:33:37]
me, call me if you if there's a
[2:33:40]
mosquito or some kind of problem,
[2:33:43]
the gnats are gone, obviously.
[2:33:46]
But, they do take care of us and they
[2:33:49]
know our dates, so
[2:33:51]
that's a it is a kind of a small benefit
[2:33:55]
to to Grantsville City.
[2:33:57]
The irrigation, we need to be there
[2:34:00]
on the water.
[2:34:02]
I'm aware of a few outstanding problems
[2:34:05]
we have there.
[2:34:07]
But, we'll address them as we have a
[2:34:11]
resolution, so
[2:34:12]
I'm happy to be a part of that, too. So,
[2:34:15]
they're a humble group of guys. They
[2:34:18]
pray for it to rain, so
[2:34:20]
>> [laughter]
[2:34:21]
>> So, it's good.
[2:34:23]
>> All right. Did Brett didn't ever join,
[2:34:25]
correct? Okay.
[2:34:26]
>> Not that I can tell. I mean, unless he's
[2:34:28]
on an iPhone, but
[2:34:30]
>> Okay. That's okay.
[2:34:31]
Um
[2:34:33]
I guess the biggest council report is
[2:34:35]
gearing up for the 4th of July.
[2:34:37]
Um we will send out sign-up sheets in
[2:34:40]
the next uh
[2:34:42]
hopefully tomorrow. Can we do that
[2:34:44]
tomorrow, Alicia? Send out some sign-ups
[2:34:46]
for
[2:34:47]
um hot dog cooking. So, get ready to eat
[2:34:51]
hot dogs for 9 straight days.
[2:34:54]
You're
[2:34:55]
>> [laughter]
[2:34:56]
>> I did verify just so you guys are aware,
[2:34:57]
I did verify it is one person has to
[2:35:00]
have their food handler's permit per
[2:35:03]
station. Per group. Yeah, per group. So,
[2:35:07]
Jake
[2:35:08]
>> That's all I got of it last [laughter]
[2:35:09]
year, but this year I
[2:35:10]
know I might as well know what the cool
[2:35:15]
food at what temperature and how ice
[2:35:17]
baths stuff. It was great.
[2:35:18]
>> [laughter]
[2:35:20]
>> So, it sounds like it's really
[2:35:21]
enjoyable. If you haven't done your food
[2:35:23]
handler's permit, um if you could get
[2:35:25]
that done, that would be wonderful.
[2:35:27]
And
[2:35:28]
>> Will you remind us where we go to do
[2:35:29]
that?
[2:35:30]
>> The food handler's permit? I can resend
[2:35:32]
the link to you.
[2:35:32]
>> Well, yeah. Thanks. Sorry.
[2:35:33]
>> That's okay.
[2:35:37]
Um
[2:35:38]
>> version is
[2:35:40]
I don't know if there's a live version,
[2:35:41]
but I I can't imagine being any better
[2:35:43]
than the online version.
[2:35:44]
>> It [laughter] sounds exciting.
[2:35:47]
Yes, the the activities that we have
[2:35:51]
will be
[2:35:52]
um lots of fun.
[2:35:54]
Lots of people. I appreciate all the
[2:35:56]
people that are willing to make those
[2:35:58]
things happen, especially our public
[2:35:59]
works department in moving all the
[2:36:02]
equipment back and forth all week long.
[2:36:04]
It's a big job, and we appreciate that.
[2:36:06]
So, um as
[2:36:10]
I had some other things, but I'll just
[2:36:12]
address those with you later because
[2:36:14]
it's getting late.
[2:36:16]
Um thank you, everyone, for for your um
[2:36:20]
participation. Thank you for being here
[2:36:22]
tonight. And just a reminder that there
[2:36:24]
will be not be a council meeting on July
[2:36:26]
1st because the council will be cooking
[2:36:29]
hot dogs. So,
[2:36:31]
um we will meet again on the third
[2:36:34]
Wednesday of July.
[2:36:36]
And
[2:36:38]
I think that's everything.
[2:36:40]
Um Michael, do you have anything you
[2:36:42]
need to add tonight?
[2:36:43]
>> No, thank you, Kelly. Most of the stuff
[2:36:45]
I had
[2:36:45]
>> Okay. Um Tyson, Alicia, anybody else on
[2:36:48]
the city staff? Bill, Aspen, Christie?
[2:36:51]
Anything else that needs to be
[2:36:52]
addressed? Please. Thank you.
[2:36:54]
>> thank you on behalf of the tier two
[2:36:55]
employees for that contribution. I think
[2:36:59]
we have 11
[2:37:00]
um officers, and the Tier two is uh July
[2:37:04]
1st, 2020, 11. After that date is when
[2:37:07]
they are certified, and they also have
[2:37:10]
to work 25 years instead of
[2:37:13]
and less retirement. And some cities are
[2:37:15]
like picking up a little bit more 401k
[2:37:17]
and stuff to offset it. So, it is like
[2:37:20]
apples to apples, it's hard to compare,
[2:37:22]
but they will appreciate it, and I do as
[2:37:24]
well.
[2:37:24]
>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all
[2:37:26]
you guys do.
[2:37:27]
>> All right, we just need a motion to
[2:37:29]
adjourn.
[2:37:31]
>> I hear I make a motion we adjourn.
[2:37:33]
>> I second the motion.
[2:37:34]
>> All in favor?