[0:00] I said

[0:32] Is he out?

[0:35] [laughter]

[0:45] » [clears throat]

[0:47] >> Yes. Just one.

[1:02] » Sticking out.

[1:15] and everyone else also play the

[1:18] contractility.

[1:28] [clears throat]

[1:35] But he also

[1:37] >> in this one they we're going to have to

[1:40] allow other people.

[1:46] » Yeah.

[1:46] >> Sure. But school is still

[1:55] » you're ready.

[1:59] » Okay. Welcome everybody. We're so glad

[2:01] to see you all here. This is a regular

[2:03] meeting of the Grantsville City Council.

[2:05] For the record, today's date is July 15,

[2:08] 2026, and the time is 7 p.m. This

[2:12] meeting is being held at the Grantsville

[2:13] City Council Chambers located at 429

[2:16] East Main Street, Grantsville, Utah, as

[2:18] well as electronically by Zoom. I am

[2:21] Mayor Heidi Hammond, and I will conduct

[2:23] a roll call. Council member Butler

[2:25] >> here,

[2:25] >> Dalton,

[2:26] >> here.

[2:26] >> Skinner,

[2:27] >> here.

[2:28] >> Thomas

[2:28] >> here,

[2:29] >> Williams

[2:30] >> here.

[2:30] >> Thank you. If everyone would please uh

[2:33] rise and join me in the pledge of

[2:35] >> allegiance.

[2:36] [clears throat]

[2:41] I aliance to the flag of the United

[2:45] States of America and to the republic

[2:48] for it stands one nation

[2:52] indivisible with liberty and justice for

[2:54] all.

[3:00] » [clears throat]

[3:04] » All right. Our first agenda item tonight

[3:07] um is public comment. The floor is open

[3:10] to the public to bring their concerns to

[3:12] the council for items not listed on the

[3:15] agenda.

[3:23] Okay, let's go.

[3:28] » Good evening, mayor and members of the

[3:30] council. Thank you for your time

[3:31] tonight. Uh my name is Jim McGregor. I

[3:33] serve as IT director at a company called

[3:35] Olive and Coco located in Salt Lake

[3:37] City. Uh we are a luxury gift retailer.

[3:40] Um I'll be honest with you, I don't

[3:42] personally live in Grantsville. Um my

[3:44] home is in West Haven and I've traveled

[3:46] the distance here tonight because this

[3:47] issue matters enough to make the trip. I

[3:50] hope that tells you something about how

[3:51] important it is. I'm here on behalf of a

[3:53] Granville resident and one of my valued

[3:55] employees, uh, Miss Wendy McCury, who

[3:57] lives at 233 West Vegas Street, which is

[4:00] about 2 miles north of here. Uh, Wendy

[4:04] has called that home for 5 and a half

[4:05] years since February 2021. She serves as

[4:08] our customer service lead at Olive Coco

[4:11] and like a growing number of your

[4:12] citizens, she works from home. In fact,

[4:14] Miss Wendy McCrory could not be here

[4:16] herself tonight because she's working

[4:18] right now on shift from her home on

[4:20] Vegas Street. So that's why I'm here to

[4:22] speak with you. Her livelihood depends

[4:24] on the one thing this city has the power

[4:26] to influence, a stable internet

[4:28] connection. Right now, the homes on

[4:31] Vegas Street can only get fixed wireless

[4:33] service. It works for most of the time,

[4:35] but isn't immune to weather. And when

[4:37] conditions are bad, the connection can

[4:38] falter. Even an occasional outage

[4:40] matters when your job depends on being

[4:42] online. It's a customer left waiting,

[4:46] work disrupted, and a resident who feels

[4:48] left behind by infrastructure everyone

[4:50] else takes for granted. And here's what

[4:52] makes it hard to accept. I have another

[4:54] employee who lives right here in

[4:56] Grantsfield, a block over on Race

[4:58] Street, and their home has quantum fiber

[5:01] service today. Same city, same company,

[5:04] two neighbors, just streets apart. And

[5:07] one has a reliable connection while the

[5:09] other has to settle for less. That's the

[5:11] difference between the halves and the

[5:12] halves not. And it comes down to nothing

[5:14] more than the street which you happen to

[5:16] live on. I'm asking you to close that

[5:18] gap by advocating on Wendy's behalf and

[5:20] on behalf of every household on Vegas

[5:22] Street, urging Quantum Fiber to extend

[5:25] service to their homes. Let me offer a

[5:28] few reasons why this falls squarely

[5:29] within your responsibility. First,

[5:32] reliable internet is no longer a luxury.

[5:35] It's essential infrastructure as

[5:37] fundamental as roads, water, and power.

[5:40] You wouldn't accept a street where the

[5:42] pavement washes out every time it rains.

[5:44] Broadband deserves the same standard.

[5:47] Second, this is about economic vitality.

[5:50] Remote work keeps residents earning,

[5:52] spending, and staying in Grantsville.

[5:54] Every home you connect becomes a home

[5:56] where someone can build a career without

[5:58] leaving the community. Fiber raises

[6:00] property values, attracts new families,

[6:03] strengthens your tax base. This is an

[6:05] investment in Grantsville's future, not

[6:07] a favor to One Street. Now, let me tell

[6:09] you why I believe so strongly. I've

[6:11] lived in West Haven for 23 years, and

[6:13] for much of that time, our internet was

[6:15] a monopoly controlled by Xfinity.

[6:18] One provider, no competition, and

[6:20] residents paid the price. Then, in the

[6:23] summer of 2023, we got Utopia Fiber,

[6:26] better service at a lower cost. And it

[6:28] didn't happen by accident. It happened

[6:30] because one city council member had the

[6:32] vision to see what was possible and the

[6:34] will to fight for it. That single effort

[6:37] is improvise of every citizen in West

[6:39] Haven. I've lived it and I know what

[6:41] it's worth. That's why I'm asking one of

[6:44] you to become That's why I'm asking one

[6:46] of you to become for Grantsville the

[6:48] person who sees the future and champions

[6:50] it because a private company weigh

[6:53] because a private company weighs where

[6:54] to build based on demand and local

[6:56] support. A letter, a resolution, a phone

[6:59] call from this council carries weight

[7:01] that an individual resident simply

[7:03] cannot match. You have a voice here that

[7:06] we do not. I'm not asking the city to

[7:09] build the network or foot the bill. I'm

[7:11] asking you to be the champion of your

[7:13] cit the champion your citizens need to

[7:15] press Quantum Fiber to signal a grant to

[7:18] signal that Gransville wants this

[7:20] investment to stand up for the residents

[7:22] of Vegas Street. Thank you. I'm happy to

[7:24] answer any questions.

[7:26] >> Thank you very much.

[7:27] >> Appreciate it. I stated earlier um just

[7:30] for items not listed on the agenda, but

[7:32] we do not have any public hearing items

[7:34] tonight. So any items that you would

[7:36] like to discuss with the council, this

[7:38] is your opportunity.

[7:48] » Good evening. I'm Jeff Aver. I live at

[7:50] 589 East Clark Street. And so I was here

[7:53] to specifically talk about agenda item

[7:55] number 13, which is the Falcon's Crest

[7:59] uh subdivision that's uh that's under

[8:01] consideration right now. I had sent a

[8:04] letter, an email out at to each of you

[8:06] um just uh addressing our concerns uh as

[8:10] neighbors that are adjacent to that

[8:12] property right now. We uh we'd come and

[8:15] talked to the planning commission here

[8:17] last week and and uh addressed some

[8:19] concerns there. I think there were some

[8:20] things that were kind of brought up

[8:22] after the public comment section and we

[8:24] didn't have an opportunity to kind of

[8:26] rebut those or to discuss those

[8:28] [clears throat] and so I wanted to uh

[8:31] take that opportunity tonight. We're

[8:33] kind of uh we recognize that there will

[8:35] be development. We recognize that people

[8:37] are moving to Grantsville. We're not um

[8:40] you know against that or uh or trying to

[8:44] stop that from happening, right? We

[8:46] recognize it's going to happen, but we

[8:47] would like to mitigate the impacts of

[8:49] that to existing neighbors who have been

[8:51] here for a long time.

[8:54] And so we I we just had seen some issues

[8:57] with this with current city code. There

[9:00] was an agreement or uh a development

[9:02] agreement that had been put in place

[9:04] previously and um that one had side

[9:09] setbacks on the yards. I think the code

[9:12] mentioned that it was seven and a half

[9:14] feet and 15 on each side. This proposal,

[9:17] this development proposes seven and a

[9:19] half feet on each side and that does not

[9:22] comply with current city code. Um it was

[9:25] mentioned at the meeting that they were

[9:26] essentially grandfathered in. Um since

[9:29] this uh development um it states

[9:33] in the current development agreement um

[9:36] let's see it says whereas the project

[9:39] subject to an approved preliminary plat

[9:41] that is being voided and replaced in

[9:43] this agreement. So that should not

[9:45] indicate a grandfathered um exception to

[9:49] current code. So, this development um

[9:52] currently

[9:53] um states that it's going to be 7 1/2 ft

[9:56] setbacks on each side of each lot um in

[9:59] the lots 1 through five and 23 through

[10:03] 27. That doesn't comply. That's going to

[10:06] have a uh we're already going to have a

[10:07] pretty big impact to our uh view to the north of that, right? We've got a

[10:13] very nice unobstructed view and we

[10:15] recognize that there is again going to

[10:17] be some development there. We're trying

[10:18] to mitigate that a little bit. And

[10:20] having 15 ft between houses there and

[10:23] these are going to be uh it's assumed

[10:25] pretty tall uh just because of the small

[10:27] lot sizes there. They're going to have

[10:29] to go up and uh so we're trying to

[10:32] mitigate that a little bit. We talked

[10:33] about a little bit about a privacy

[10:34] fence. And then the other issue that

[10:37] we'd kind of noticed was um code calls

[10:41] out a 10,000 foot minimum lot size at

[10:44] least in the RM7 side on the south side

[10:46] of that and uh there is a corner lot

[10:49] there for the corner lots um there is a

[10:51] corner lot there that doesn't meet that

[10:53] lot number six specifically does not

[10:55] meet that uh requirement. It's a 9,000

[10:58] foot lot. So, we're just asking that um

[11:02] current code be be honored and looked at

[11:06] uh for this kind of a development. It's

[11:07] already going to have a big impact on

[11:08] us. We are just trying to mitigate that

[11:10] as much as possible. And we feel like um

[11:13] if there's exceptions to what's already

[11:15] in place, that's that that that's just

[11:17] going to make it worse for us. It's

[11:19] going to be a more difficult um

[11:20] transition into that. And this is going

[11:23] to be a big transition from what's there

[11:25] existing to what's proposed now. you're

[11:28] going to go to very small lots. We're on

[11:30] anywhere from acre, half acre down to I

[11:33] think there's a third acre lot there

[11:35] now. And so we're going down to 7,000

[11:37] square foot lots behind us and tall

[11:39] houses. So we just ask that you kind of

[11:41] consider that and we're just asking that

[11:43] the city code be honored um uh with this

[11:46] kind of a development and we make sure

[11:48] that so that we can mitigate the impacts

[11:50] that we have. So thank you for your

[11:51] time.

[11:52] >> Thank you.

[11:56] Sorry.

[12:06] » Hi, I'm Wayne Boyer. I'm here with the

[12:13] get the information on this new

[12:15] subdivision which is known [snorts] as

[12:17] the Falcons.

[12:20] And my concern is I have livestock

[12:25] there.

[12:26] And

[12:28] this I received

[12:32] and it shows me that the retention

[12:35] center over here on the end of I believe

[12:40] it's 30 I can't read it. It's 30 ft wide

[12:44] that goes from

[12:47] 0.1 to 10

[12:51] and it's marked as a retaining.

[12:55] My concern is what these lots are up

[13:01] here. Is is the fencing going how's the

[13:05] fencing going to be involved there? I

[13:08] have livestock there. got problems

[13:11] already with

[13:14] things happening. I'm concerned now why

[13:19] and what happens to these lots. They've

[13:21] changed them down to this hair, which I

[13:25] found out finally I have a new one that

[13:28] you've changed all the all the zones in

[13:32] 99 apparently

[13:34] that they exchanged.

[13:37] I asked for this a while, never received

[13:40] it. Know nothing about when it changed

[13:43] the A10s and the RM7s now no longer in

[13:49] existence. Is this correct?

[13:55] » Say that again.

[13:57] >> I understand RM7's no longer available.

[14:01] Can't be used.

[14:02] >> No, it's still exist.

[14:04] >> Shelby, do you have something?

[14:05] >> The RM7 still exists. It just cannot be

[14:07] reszoned to RM7.

[14:09] >> So, nobody can re

[14:12] resone that.

[14:13] >> Is that correct?

[14:18] Now with these others, what about the

[14:24] retention center? How is that going to

[14:26] affect me with my property goes from

[14:29] point

[14:33] one like I say across as you will can

[14:36] see maybe you can't you don't have it

[14:39] there stem lots they've changed them

[14:41] down to to 7,000

[14:45] square feet. Does that what what about

[14:48] the retention center? Where where's the

[14:51] water get to there or where does that is

[14:53] that part of their backyard for play so

[14:56] the kids can go back there from their

[14:59] original lot number here? Is that is

[15:02] that attached to that?

[15:06] These lots are sitting here and then you

[15:08] got the retainers all the way across

[15:10] there

[15:12] and against my fence line.

[15:16] I'm concerned about my livestock whether

[15:20] they can

[15:22] it's been there for

[15:24] a hundred years owned it now they're

[15:27] coming in and

[15:30] I'm I just need to know where's the

[15:32] water going in coming in where's it

[15:35] going out I know it's retaining there

[15:37] what's the depth of the retaining that's

[15:39] going across that fence

[15:42] >> so Wayne this isn't a a conversation

[15:44] it's a comment

[15:46] So you're you're giving us comments.

[15:47] We're writing notes down and when we get

[15:49] to that point in the meeting, then we

[15:51] can bring up those comments that you

[15:54] made.

[15:54] >> Well, I said comments now.

[15:57] >> We can't answer.

[15:58] >> No, I know. I'll be here. You You can

[16:01] recall.

[16:03] >> I just need to know a few things. That's

[16:06] not a It's not uh quite right in my

[16:09] opinion.

[16:12] >> We will definitely address those. Thank

[16:14] you. Any

[16:27] other comments?

[16:33] » Anybody online? Alicia,

[16:36] >> instructions. If you are online and

[16:38] would you'd like and would like to make

[16:40] a comment, please raise your hand.

[16:44] >> Using Zoom.

[16:49] [clears throat]

[16:56] » Yes. Kayen. Kaitlin.

[17:03] » What? What is

[17:05] >> Codle? Kayn Codgle.

[17:07] >> Cogle.

[17:08] Kaylin Cogle. If you'd like to

[17:10] make a comment, you're welcome to.

[17:13] >> Hi. I apologize. I logged in under my

[17:16] son's account. My name is Brittney

[17:18] Cogle. Um, I just wanted to make a

[17:22] comment about the proposed

[17:26] um

[17:27] Where' it go?

[17:34] No, I was like seven. Oh my gosh, now I

[17:38] can't even.

[17:41] >> Okay, so it's about to exhibit A for the

[17:46] license plate

[17:49] uh recognition data sharing program, the

[17:51] memorandum for for understanding. So

[17:53] item section six. Um I just want to uh

[17:56] give my comment on these pro types of

[17:59] programs. They have been known to be

[18:03] very unreliable, very scary AI programs.

[18:08] Um, in fact, I have some statistics

[18:12] here. These cameras

[18:14] make

[18:16] out of every one out of every 10 cars

[18:21] are scanned and recorded incorrectly.

[18:24] and that makes the risk of our innocent

[18:28] citizens being um arrested, searched,

[18:31] detained, and held at gunpoint for no

[18:33] viable reason. Um and then in the um

[18:37] [clears throat]

[18:40] in the agreement that uh was posted

[18:43] online um it states that um the operator

[18:49] um the organizer of the camera um even

[18:52] that that are not held reliable and that

[18:55] it's solely liability is

[18:58] passed down to the agency party which

[19:00] would be Grantsville City and then

[19:03] because Utah code 63G-7-101

[19:09] um the governmental immunity act is in

[19:13] place that means that no innocent

[19:15] citizen can be compensated for time

[19:19] imprisonment and cost effects of these

[19:23] cameras misidentifying their vehicles.

[19:28] Um but there is a caveat on this. The

[19:31] only person who actually can be sued is

[19:34] our police officers. Um, there are many

[19:38] cases out there where citizens are

[19:41] winning millions of dollars that the

[19:43] city's police officers have to pay

[19:47] because they didn't do their due

[19:48] diligence and correctly identify the

[19:51] information

[19:52] um of this person's vehicle or the

[19:55] information from the

[19:59] that they received from for the crime

[20:01] that was

[20:03] a part of all of that. Um, so I just

[20:05] want to make sure you guys are aware

[20:07] that these cameras are more dangerous

[20:10] and they will be helpful. Um, it's also

[20:13] extremely costly. Um, the subscription

[20:16] alone for one of these monitoring

[20:19] facilities that would monitor all this

[20:21] data received is $30,000 a year. Um, and

[20:25] then putting all of the risk onto our

[20:28] police officers, I don't think that's

[20:29] wise. We're we're not big enough of a

[20:32] city to utilize these cameras and for

[20:35] the safety of our citizens, for our

[20:38] privacy rights, um that these cameras

[20:41] would go against like it's I just highly

[20:44] suggest you guys do not approve these

[20:47] cameras in our city.

[20:50] Thank you very much.

[20:51] >> Thank you. Thanks for your comment. We

[20:53] appreciate it. Anybody else online?

[21:06] No.

[21:08] >> Okay, we will close the public comment

[21:10] um agenda item and move on to agenda item number two, summary action

[21:16] items. Uh the first one is approval of

[21:19] minutes from the June 17th, 2026 city

[21:21] council regular meeting. Does anybody on

[21:24] the council have any questions or

[21:26] comments or concerns about the minutes

[21:28] from our previous meeting?

[21:38] » Go ahead.

[21:38] >> Now, mayor, I make a motion we approve

[21:40] the minutes from our June 17, 2026 city

[21:43] council regular meeting.

[21:45] >> We have a motion by council member

[21:47] Williams. Is there a second?

[21:50] >> Second the motion.

[21:50] >> Second by council member Skinner. All in

[21:52] favor?

[21:54] >> I.

[21:56] >> Okay. The next item is approval of

[21:58] bills. Does anybody have any questions

[22:01] or comments on the bills as they were

[22:02] presented?

[22:12] » If not, can I get a motion?

[22:17] » Mayor, I make a motion. We move to

[22:19] approve the bills as presented to us. We

[22:22] have a motion by council member Thomas.

[22:23] Is there a second?

[22:25] >> Second.

[22:26] by council member Butler. All in

[22:27] favor?

[22:29] >> I.

[22:31] [clears throat]

[22:32] >> Okay. Moving on to item number three is

[22:36] a presentation of the Groundsville City

[22:37] Youth Council Scholarship Awards and

[22:40] that will be presented by Jolene

[22:41] Jenkins.

[22:49] All right. Mayor Hammond, City Council,

[22:51] it's good to be with you today. And I

[22:54] would like to have Alyssa McCoy come up

[22:57] and Gwen Tavin.

[23:02] And I have to say I have

[23:05] loved working with the Grant City Youth

[23:08] Council for the past I think it's been

[23:11] four years. And but one of the things

[23:14] that I don't like about it, I'm just

[23:16] going to put in a complaint right now,

[23:18] is that these darn youth graduate and

[23:22] leave, but they go on and do amazing

[23:26] things. And we have these two girls who

[23:29] just graduated from Gransville High

[23:30] School. And um we wanted to

[23:35] honor them and give them our

[23:37] appreciation and present them with

[23:39] scholarships through the Grantsville

[23:41] City Youth Council. And so first of all,

[23:44] Alyssa, she served with our youth

[23:47] council for the past year and she

[23:51] was amazing at being a leazison like

[23:54] with all different groups and bringing

[23:56] in all these wonderful ideas. Um she was

[24:00] working on a podcast that hopefully

[24:03] we'll be able to continue and work on

[24:05] and um and just so many great ideas that

[24:08] she brought. Uh both of these girls are

[24:12] they've been insanely involved in so

[24:14] many different groups. I know you had

[24:17] theater and youth court and dance,

[24:22] right? Ballroom dance. What else?

[24:25] >> Miss Granville.

[24:26] >> Miss Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And Miss

[24:28] Granville. I forgot like just that

[24:31] little thing. Um, but uh before I

[24:34] present it, Alyssa, do you want to say

[24:36] one thing that you've gained from

[24:38] working on the Gruntsville Youth

[24:40] Council?

[24:41] >> Sure thing. Um, [clears throat]

[24:43] all right. On the spot. Yippee. Let's

[24:45] go. I think one thing I gained from

[24:47] working on the Grantsville City Youth

[24:49] Council was the ability to connect more

[24:51] with my community because not only was I

[24:54] connecting with them through my work as

[24:55] Miss Grantsville, obviously, it exposed

[24:58] me to more opportunities like the

[25:00] cemetery cleanup and our various

[25:03] meetings with multiple members of our

[25:05] community. us getting to interview the

[25:07] mayoral candidates for example, it gave

[25:10] me a lot of opportunities c to connect

[25:12] and really see the amazing community

[25:15] that I live in.

[25:17] >> Awesome.

[25:17] >> Great.

[25:18] >> Like if any of you are put on the spot

[25:20] like that, if you have a speech like

[25:22] that, [laughter]

[25:24] >> that's amazing. So, we would like to

[25:26] present Alysa McCulli with a $400

[25:29] scholarship from Grantsville City. So,

[25:31] congratulations.

[25:35] All right, Gwen. Okay, I got to tell you

[25:38] about Gwen. So, Gwen has served on our

[25:40] youth council for three years and this

[25:43] past year she served as our youth mayor

[25:45] and um the hardest thing with with Gwen

[25:50] is trying to keep up with her because

[25:53] she's like we're gonna change the world

[25:54] and she impacted Grantsville City with

[25:57] the things that she did. um she was the

[26:00] one who decided this past year that our

[26:02] theme should be empowering youth voices

[26:05] and she really strived to do that to

[26:09] make sure that the youth in our

[26:11] community had a voice and to make sure

[26:13] that you guys know what that voice is

[26:16] and and what their concerns were. Uh so

[26:19] Gwendalyn, same thing for you. If you'd

[26:21] like to give us something that you've

[26:23] gained from working on the youth

[26:25] council.

[26:25] >> Um let's see. Yeah, for the last three

[26:28] years I I didn't think I was going to go

[26:31] into the youth council, but the previous

[26:33] mayor actually invited me in and I got

[26:36] in um unofficially unfortunately, but

[26:39] that's okay. I've learned a lot from my community and

[26:44] I've learned a lot from myself. I've

[26:46] learned um really how like personally I

[26:52] like smiles. I like it when I go and

[26:55] help up front instead of behind the

[26:57] scenes. And so whenever I see like a

[27:00] children's smile or um you know I think

[27:04] we did the clean up Main Street, right?

[27:09] >> Yeah. That was the previous mayor's um

[27:12] activity that we that we chose to

[27:14] continue this year and I really liked

[27:16] that one. One thing

[27:18] that really stood out, I think it was

[27:22] this year's team. I really liked it. I

[27:24] really liked I mean, yeah, we had to

[27:26] extend um the members from what was it 7

[27:29] to 15?

[27:31] >> Uh 10 I think it was 12 to 15.

[27:33] >> 12 to 15. And there was a lot of

[27:36] involvement there. There was constant

[27:39] people just coming up and you know

[27:42] sharing their ideas. We did a think tank

[27:44] which was really fun. Um, we invited,

[27:49] who did we invite?

[27:50] >> All of Twilla County.

[27:52] >> All of Tula County. That was including

[27:55] >> Rad Pack. Did we try and involve youth

[27:57] court?

[27:59] >> I don't know.

[28:00] >> I think we tried, [laughter]

[28:02] but that was really fun. So, just seeing

[28:04] all the voices and seeing just really

[28:06] the amount of impact we can create with

[28:08] just a little group like us. Um, hoping

[28:11] that we can continue later on. So, yeah.

[28:14] Awesome. Thank [clears throat] you.

[28:15] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[28:19] » So, we would like to present Gwen with a

[28:22] $600 scholarship from Grantsville City.

[28:29] » Come on up, girls. Let's get a picture.

[28:47] You'll be here in 20 years.

[28:49] >> Hell yeah.

[28:50] >> Maybe sooner.

[28:55] » They do ask that at youth counsel.

[28:57] They're like, "What's the age to run

[28:58] for?" [laughter]

[29:01] » Future leaders.

[29:02] >> What is the age?

[29:05] >> 18.

[29:06] [clears throat]

[29:08] >> Next round, girls. [laughter] Right.

[29:10] >> I might I might actually be fantastic.

[29:14] >> Thank you. It's really been a pleasure

[29:15] to work with them. They're amazing. So,

[29:17] thank you so much for all of your

[29:18] contributions to our community.

[29:22] >> Um and thank you Jolene for your um

[29:25] effort and involvement in our youth

[29:26] council and also council member Thomas.

[29:28] Thank you so much for keeping that

[29:30] wonderful program going. Um agenda item

[29:34] number four is a presentation of gift

[29:36] presented by Aspen Kle uh the finance

[29:38] director.

[29:43] » All right. Um we kept it vague because

[29:46] the gift is um for Mayor Hammond and

[29:50] Shelby. So

[29:53] >> what is this?

[29:54] >> I WAS LIKE WE HAVE TO KEEP IT VAGUE. I

[29:56] don't want to give it away. But as you

[29:58] guys may recall, a couple I think just

[30:00] the last council meeting, Shelby went

[30:02] out of her way to have presented thank

[30:05] you and like certificates for all the

[30:06] help that you guys received for the

[30:08] Grantsville City rodeo. Well, I was also

[30:11] having a thank you made for you two. Um,

[30:14] but in typical fashion, they didn't

[30:16] arrive until the week after, of course.

[30:18] But I do have belt buckles for both of

[30:21] you that are personalized thank yous for

[30:24] your work that you guys put in for the

[30:26] rodeo. So your guys's enthusiasm and

[30:29] dedication to getting a project done are

[30:32] is inspiring. So we just wanted to say

[30:34] thank you guys and present you with

[30:35] these. Thank you very much.

[30:49] Thanks, Alan.

[31:05] » The rodeo was lots of fun and I can't

[31:08] wait for next year. So, thank you.

[31:11] Battle of the Bronx,

[31:12] >> the full rodeo next year in October. We

[31:16] do have Battle of the Bronx that has

[31:17] been approved and we are excited about

[31:19] that. So, we'll be hosting that October

[31:21] 10th. So, put that on your calendars.

[31:25] So excited. And thank you again. Thanks

[31:27] for all those who made that whole thing

[31:29] possible. It was definitely a group

[31:31] effort.

[31:33] Um,

[31:37] our next item is item number five,

[31:40] introduction of newly appointed officer

[31:42] Taran Bowen and administration of the O

[31:44] of office presented by Chief Sager.

[31:50] Mayor and council, thank you for an

[31:52] opportunity to meet new officer. We had

[31:53] an officer uh Tom Sanford retire and so

[31:57] officer Bowen was in the works and it

[31:59] was quickly noticed that he was the top

[32:01] candidate and he came and started

[32:02] working July 1st. He comes with seven

[32:05] years of experience um a lot of uh uh

[32:09] quality experience working for a larger

[32:10] agency where he got to experience a lot

[32:12] of things but not only that he has the

[32:14] right personality for Grantsville and

[32:16] like I've told you before that's what I

[32:17] look for. has to be the combo because

[32:19] our our city is unique. And I I just

[32:22] invite Taran up here. He's got his

[32:24] lovely family here and the youngster I

[32:26] think still passed out on the floor down

[32:27] there. [laughter] So awesome. Um Taran,

[32:30] just want to introduce yourself.

[32:31] >> So I'm Taran Bowen. Um I come with seven

[32:35] years of experience coming from West

[32:37] Valley City. I've been on patrol the

[32:39] entire time. So I've pretty much seen

[32:41] all you can think of. I'm excited to be

[32:44] here. The community is amazing already.

[32:46] just the difference between what I've

[32:48] experienced, what I have. It's it's been

[32:50] truly honoring to be here and I'm

[32:52] excited to see what Grantsville City has

[32:55] and how I can help better the community.

[32:58] >> Yeah. Without further ado, we'll have

[33:00] the group from the oath of office. If

[33:03] you raise your right hand and just face

[33:04] the council of the mayor and repeat

[33:06] after me. I state your name, do solemnly

[33:09] swear that I will support, obey, and

[33:12] defend the Constitution of the United

[33:14] States. I, Taran Bowen, do solemnly

[33:17] swear that I will support, obey, and

[33:19] defend the Constitution of the United

[33:20] States.

[33:21] >> and the Constitution of this state

[33:24] >> and that I will discharge the duties of

[33:26] my office with fidelity.

[33:27] >> And I will discharge my duties of my

[33:29] office with fidelity.

[33:30] >> Thank you, sir.

[33:38] Well, unfortunately,

[33:55] » all right, there's refreshments and

[33:57] drinks. Um, pick your family, show them

[33:59] where you're going to be working. I

[34:00] think it's important when you tell

[34:01] stories, help them process and

[34:03] understand. So, thank you guys.

[34:06] >> Thank you and welcome and thank you to

[34:07] your family as well. We appreciate your

[34:09] service to our community. Thank you so

[34:11] much.

[34:18] » I'll try to make it over in a minute.

[34:19] I've got a couple things on the agenda.

[34:34] All right. Agenda item number six,

[34:36] consideration of resolution 2026-34

[34:40] approving a memorandum of understanding

[34:42] for automatic license plate recognition

[34:44] data sharing. Uh, presented by Chief

[34:47] Sager.

[34:48] >> Well, first I'll go to Miss Cogle. Um,

[34:51] give some history on this this process.

[34:54] We have 10 cameras here in the city. We

[34:56] started planning in 2021 2022. That

[35:00] planning when Chief Ensand retired

[35:03] turned over to me for implementation. We

[35:05] implemented those cameras in 2023 and

[35:08] they've been active and we've been using

[35:10] them since without any issues. And and

[35:13] why we have um why we curve those issues

[35:17] is training. U annual training. Any

[35:19] officer that has access is required to

[35:21] have training. That training requires

[35:23] verification as mentioned. you. Yes,

[35:26] there is data enter entered into the

[35:28] system through multiple agencies um

[35:30] which is this hot list which we're

[35:32] discussing tonight with department of

[35:33] public safety um they verify that

[35:36] information they put it in and when

[35:38] their hot list stolen vehicles uh

[35:40] missing endangered people ve

[35:42] [clears throat] um people that may be in

[35:44] that vehicle this is all in

[35:46] investigative information that is put in

[35:49] by an officer or um one of their

[35:52] respective uh um helpers Um but anyway

[35:56] um and the 63G comment um that is that I

[36:00] thought that was important because

[36:01] that's the government manage government

[36:03] uh records man management act and so the

[36:06] data we collect is only retained in our

[36:08] system for 30 days and it's

[36:10] automatically purged and we don't have

[36:11] it and if a citizen comes and requests

[36:14] that data it's it they're not able to do

[36:16] it. It's protected information and

[36:18] that's what that 63g means. We do not

[36:21] release the information. It's not

[36:22] grandma requestable, which that means,

[36:25] and if Tyson has anything on that, but

[36:27] that's how I interpret that. I I don't

[36:29] know. Did she have any other notes that

[36:31] I may be able to answer that I may be

[36:33] missed?

[36:36] >> Well, I think she said is one in 10 um

[36:38] are mis provided

[36:41] >> and then the cost and the cost. Yes. So,

[36:44] the one in 10 I can't speak for the stat

[36:46] the stats on that. Um I we have not I I

[36:51] am unaware of any um

[36:54] any un any any incident where we've had

[36:56] the wrong plate or the wrong vehicle. Um

[36:59] what it does do is give us time like if

[37:01] we have a hot vehicle coming in we can

[37:03] actually strategically plan to stop that

[37:04] vehicle in the safest spot and have the

[37:07] resources there. But I I don't know the

[37:09] data on that and I I haven't experienced

[37:12] that. So I can and the cost yes it's

[37:14] 32,500 for 10 cameras and that's

[37:17] annually. So that's split up in our 10 areas and they're they are set up in

[37:21] strategic locations. It's like having uh

[37:24] an ingress and degress um areas of the

[37:27] city which allows us to have 10 points

[37:30] of ingress and egress

[37:33] in the city that alert officers where

[37:36] officers aren't going to be all the time

[37:37] for these these vehicles and or these

[37:40] suspects that are maybe in these

[37:41] vehicles. And the the cost on that is

[37:44] just an annual subscription. So

[37:47] >> the AI

[37:48] >> oh the AI active. So there these cameras

[37:51] can get very sophisticated. They can zoom in. There's there's no AI

[37:55] active on this. This is basically a

[37:57] plate or and then you can actually use

[38:00] it if you say we we had a case today um

[38:04] where we had a substantial amount of

[38:06] fraud um tens of thousands of dollars.

[38:09] We had a vehicle description and we

[38:10] identified that vehicle using the

[38:12] system. So that's we can use we can use

[38:15] a system like that as well. So um yeah

[38:19] the AI is there's no facial recognition.

[38:22] Um it's it's plates. You can upgrade but

[38:25] >> we don't have the upgrade.

[38:27] >> We have the base

[38:28] >> through our Yeah, we have the base.

[38:31] >> So

[38:32] >> sorry. Go ahead Britney.

[38:33] >> Sorry. Does the does the reader give any

[38:35] information that a regular officer

[38:36] couldn't get if he put pulled in the

[38:38] information in his

[38:39] >> No, we have access like if a vehicle

[38:41] passes, we put the plate information in,

[38:43] we get siegeous access. We actually

[38:44] probably get more information in the

[38:46] fog. The only reason it would hit is if

[38:48] is on a hot list like we're going to and

[38:50] a hot list means stolen vehicle, wanted

[38:52] person, missing, endangered, um things

[38:56] like that. Amber alert, if there's a

[38:58] plate attached, it comes through, it

[38:59] hits and lets us know, hey, that that

[39:00] plate's right here right now. um that we

[39:03] can mobilize resources.

[39:05] >> What's your protocol then when you get

[39:07] off then

[39:08] >> you the officer will respond look for

[39:10] the vehicle verify if it's verified then

[39:13] we make we make the plan.

[39:15] >> So

[39:18] >> can you give me just a few examples of

[39:20] instances where this has been helpful

[39:22] that things crimes that were solved but

[39:25] wouldn't have been without the

[39:27] >> was one in March.

[39:29] >> Yeah. There's

[39:30] >> the the triple homicide in southern Utah

[39:32] was was tracked through

[39:34] >> well statewide. Yeah. It this can be

[39:37] used for Yeah.

[39:38] >> I mean that that's the capabilities,

[39:40] right? We can track. We know this is it

[39:42] and you're it's entered into a system

[39:44] for a reason, not just random searching.

[39:48] Any case, any anytime you go in and you search for something, you have to

[39:52] have a case associated with that. So you

[39:55] and we know who surges because it tracks

[39:57] it and we know the case number and why.

[40:00] Just like the sensitive information we

[40:02] deal with every day. We we have access

[40:04] to criminal histories, driver's

[40:06] licenses, all your you know if if we

[40:09] have a reason to we have access to that.

[40:12] If we don't have a reason, we're not

[40:14] going to be looking for it. It we have

[40:17] we don't have time for that. So,

[40:19] >> so one of her concerns was

[40:22] misidentifying citizens and potential

[40:26] liability from the police officers for

[40:29] detaining them and putting them in jail.

[40:32] And I just I I mean talk to us a little

[40:36] bit about the protocol behind all that

[40:38] and how you verify and double check and make sure that the individual, you

[40:44] know, would come up with the plate and who the individual actually is that

[40:48] there's a protocol in place to to verify

[40:51] that where you're not just going to pull

[40:52] someone over, handcuff them, and go

[40:54] throw them in jail, right?

[40:55] >> No. So it kind of goes back to uh what

[40:59] Miss Skinner says is we have more

[41:01] information on another side too. We get

[41:03] an we get the the information through

[41:06] the alert through dispatch whatot and

[41:08] they let the officer know they respond

[41:10] if they locate they can use their other

[41:12] tools to help verify or if uh they know

[41:16] enough information because we've been

[41:18] working that case they have the

[41:20] knowledge to verify it without our

[41:21] system as well. So it's and anytime we

[41:25] take somebody into custody that we have

[41:28] to we have to identify if they won't

[41:29] identify themselves and we have a reason

[41:32] to book them into jail anyway we're

[41:33] going to book them in as Jane do John

[41:36] Doe but that's not not just because of

[41:39] this hit right we have to have something

[41:41] else so we do an investigation but we'd

[41:44] have to have a reasonable suspicion

[41:47] works into probable cause to make an

[41:48] arrest to to book into jail and so it

[41:51] all just goes

[41:52] up that tier and then um from there. So,

[41:55] it would be an investigative detention

[41:58] based off reasonable suspicion and then

[42:00] if we have probable cause, we can make

[42:02] an arrest.

[42:04] >> So, and I want to clarify

[42:07] we already have the flop cameras. What

[42:08] we're talking about here is getting

[42:09] access to DPS's database essentially so

[42:12] we can share with their database.

[42:13] >> Yeah, this thisou is just something to

[42:15] add to our knowledge or information, our

[42:18] data. So, but I knew that the questions

[42:20] would come up otherwise and that's why I

[42:22] give a history. We've been using this a

[42:23] long time um over three years to city um

[42:28] Tula County I think they switched LPR um

[42:33] systems or manufacturers but uh there

[42:36] there's a lot through the state. I think

[42:38] in this related to this with DPS right

[42:41] now there's 75 agencies that have signed

[42:43] on and four that are pending. So

[42:48] >> could you address for for us, you know,

[42:50] how does this make Grantsville safer

[42:52] >> in your in in your professional opinion?

[42:55] >> Well, flock safety or the and both

[42:58] theou, right?

[42:59] >> So let's just do both. If we have a a

[43:03] active criminal investigation, we can

[43:05] utili utilize technology to um either

[43:09] make our officers if we have a known

[43:11] suspect, we can use the technology to

[43:13] make a safer arrest. We can we know when

[43:16] they're coming. We know where they're

[43:17] leaving. We don't need to go to their

[43:19] house, you know, if they have a felony

[43:21] warrant or something. We know when

[43:22] they're gone. We can pull we can stop

[43:24] them on the road and make it safer for

[43:26] our officers. It helps it in the

[43:28] investigation side specifically with

[43:30] like drug investigations, um,

[43:33] trafficking investigations. Um, if we

[43:36] have protective order, domestic violence

[43:37] where we have a suspect that is not

[43:40] known and they've fled the scene, we

[43:42] know what vehicle they are in, we know

[43:44] they're coming back to Grantsville or

[43:46] wherever we put that victim for

[43:48] protection. Um, so we can help maybe

[43:51] curb any further violence before they

[43:53] may get to that person. Um or if someone

[43:56] says, "Hey, I'm coming to harm you."

[43:58] Okay, we know they're coming possibly in

[44:00] this vehicle. If they come into our

[44:01] city, they're they already said they're

[44:03] going to co-harm this person. We're

[44:04] going to stop them before they go harm

[44:05] the person or intervene, right? Um but

[44:09] that kind of stuff, it gives us the

[44:10] technology gives us a an advantage in

[44:13] time and strategic planning and it helps

[44:16] us make the officer's job safer.

[44:20] I had a citizen this week say there were

[44:23] multiple cities getting rid of this

[44:25] service. Um can you speak to that? Is

[44:28] that I don't know I don't know the

[44:30] details or the statistics on that.

[44:32] >> There has been a movement for LPRs.

[44:34] There's there's this side of it where

[44:36] some cities are getting rid of some some

[44:38] people choose council me council and the

[44:41] governing board choose to and others are

[44:43] keeping them. Um [clears throat] it's

[44:46] kind of depends on what way the city

[44:48] wants to go with it. It is a very

[44:50] valuable tool but it can personally I'm

[44:53] not I'm gonna give you two sides of it

[44:54] okay personally and this is me I'm I'm

[44:59] not afraid of it personally as

[45:01] professionally I am because I have to

[45:04] safeguard the citizens and the the the

[45:07] information. So that that is where yeah

[45:11] I I have to be afraid of that and I have

[45:12] to make sure we're doing it right. So I

[45:14] have two sides of it right. I see what

[45:16] it does. And now personally, I'm like,

[45:18] man, I'm not too worried about it. But

[45:20] can this go down another road? Yeah. If

[45:22] it's not guarded, you don't have people

[45:24] saying, "Yeah, this has to be within our

[45:26] policy and procedures training." Then

[45:29] um if if you don't follow those, yeah,

[45:31] it could be um used uh poorly.

[45:36] But I'd also point out there is our

[45:38] policy and procedures online for uh the

[45:41] plate readers. If you go under the

[45:43] police tab under policy, our whole

[45:44] policy manual is there and that is

[45:47] specifically pulled out so it's easy to

[45:49] access in one click.

[45:52] So, so [clears throat] all agencies that

[45:55] use this have procedures and trainings

[45:56] that they do, but you see stories that

[46:00] you know um license plate was red. It

[46:03] looked like an A, but it was a B. So,

[46:05] their own car got pulled over. The

[46:07] person did get detained. So, um, a

[46:10] police officer used it to track down an

[46:12] ex-wife. Um, they had policies and

[46:15] procedures in in place. I'm not so

[46:18] worried about our policies and

[46:19] procedures as much as the data that's

[46:22] that Flock is gathering from these

[46:24] cameras. And that's why I think cities

[46:27] are going away from is the invasion of

[46:29] privacy that that Flock uh potentially

[46:32] brings. That's that's a lot of concern

[46:35] that I have. What what do we have

[46:38] with flock that prevents that or do they

[46:42] have their own contractor agreement with

[46:44] us that they can take the information

[46:45] and do as they see with it? So our

[46:49] automated ALPR uh provider is Flock.

[46:53] There are many ALPR providers. So I

[46:55] don't want to tie Flock into all the the

[46:58] problem. We we that's our provider, but

[47:00] there are there are other ones. So, I'll

[47:02] be careful on using a specific company

[47:05] name um for the the issues. But um for

[47:09] our officers, just like our criminal

[47:10] justice information, our BCI

[47:12] information, we we monitor it. We have

[47:15] attack which looks at what we run

[47:18] monthly and if you can't run if you run

[47:21] somebody's wife or you run somebody you

[47:24] know and you you don't do it for a law

[47:26] enforcement reason is a class B

[47:27] misdemeanor and as a pol policy

[47:29] violation that we take very seriously.

[47:32] It goes in internal investigation and

[47:33] then it would also go to post. Same

[47:35] here. If you use a law enforcement data

[47:37] or law enforcement sensitive information

[47:39] to stalk or spy or look on somebody, an

[47:43] officer does that, it's a policy

[47:44] violation and they should be referred to

[47:46] post and they will be held accountable

[47:48] through policy and administrative

[47:49] investigation.

[47:52] That's not tolerated.

[47:53] >> But but flop cameras are giving like we said, it's the same information

[47:56] they could get. It's they're not giving

[47:58] anything more. It's not like, hey, you

[48:00] know.

[48:00] >> Yeah. They're retaining the the data,

[48:03] the information for 30 days. It wipes

[48:05] and it wipes off. It's not going

[48:06] anywhere. It wipes off. It's gone. We

[48:09] can't our our policy and we leave it

[48:11] that way. 30 days is in there and then

[48:13] it's gone. This and that's more

[48:15] restrictive than state law. State law is

[48:18] I think more like 9 months. We have 30

[48:20] days. So if we need it within that 30

[48:23] days, if we do have a case like today,

[48:25] we extract that data, put it on a

[48:28] different device and book it into

[48:30] evidence. So that is stored in evidence

[48:32] that is that is uh uh even more

[48:36] restricted. So

[48:39] >> I think did I did I touch on all those

[48:41] points?

[48:41] >> Yeah.

[48:44] Chief, my question is kind of along that

[48:45] same line as I was trying to understand

[48:47] this. It says an agency that chooses to

[48:50] limit the information fields to be

[48:52] shared with agency parties is

[48:54] responsible for the technical steps

[48:56] necessary to ensure that selected

[48:58] information is not available for data

[49:00] exchange. So it seemed to put it on our

[49:03] shoulders

[49:05] to limit the information provided. So

[49:09] are we limiting

[49:10] >> no information or what are we doing?

[49:12] >> Okay, so this is back to theou at DPS.

[49:15] We're we're we we requested access to

[49:17] their hot list which they manage, they

[49:19] monitor and they they purge, retain or

[49:23] purge and keep up to date. We want to

[49:25] know if their hot list is coming into

[49:26] our city, if they're stolen vehicles, if

[49:28] they're missings and stuff like that.

[49:30] Now, with that, if they don't want us to

[49:33] know because it's a sensitive case, they

[49:35] can partition that out just like we can

[49:37] partition our police reports from other

[49:39] agencies so they no one can look at them

[49:42] but us.

[49:43] So if we don't want our data shared,

[49:46] >> we can partition it out.

[49:47] >> We don't have to share it.

[49:49] >> So there's different levels of security

[49:51] as well.

[49:52] >> Okay.

[49:53] >> So that's where I think that one's

[49:55] going.

[49:56] >> Okay.

[49:58] >> But according to thisou, are we

[50:00] withholding back any of that information

[50:02] or are we just letting it all be

[50:04] available

[50:05] >> if we choose?

[50:06] >> Yeah, we if we choose to withhold that

[50:08] specific piece of information, we can we

[50:10] can hold it back. So,

[50:12] >> so that would be on a case by case basis

[50:13] like you decide to what this is saying

[50:15] is you could do that.

[50:16] >> Yeah. Yeah.

[50:22] » I just know for me my client's kids were

[50:24] kidnapped and it was a license plate

[50:26] reader that caught him and got him they

[50:28] found him in Mexico and when the FBI got

[50:30] involved that's how they got him was the

[50:31] license plate reader. Without that the

[50:33] FBI would have known. So I I understand

[50:35] everybody's concern, but I also

[50:37] understand and and I one thing they

[50:39] talked about was, you know, the police

[50:40] liability, but police have liability

[50:42] every day in everything they do, you

[50:43] know, like that's that's not anything

[50:45] specific to the block camera. They have

[50:48] post they have, you know, liability to

[50:50] post to the, you know, so I'm not I'm

[50:52] not saying they're definitely not immune

[50:53] from that liability. So I just don't

[50:55] think the flop cameras gives them

[50:56] anymore. I mean, it sounds like there's

[50:58] more because they have verification

[51:00] training that they have to do to use

[51:02] that flot camera. They can't just rely

[51:04] on that flop system generally.

[51:07] >> No, you it it's just it's information.

[51:09] It's more information. The more

[51:11] information we have, the better we do

[51:12] our job. But we can't just we we have to

[51:15] verify everything. It's it's steps. It's

[51:18] steps to get to where we're going. And

[51:20] this this helps us. Um

[51:22] technology helps. So,

[51:27] and I if Miss Cargo's still on, I would

[51:30] invite her. she can come and and have a

[51:32] discussion with me as well at the police

[51:33] department.

[51:38] So this request is

[51:42] basically connecting us for hot list

[51:45] information from into other agencies.

[51:48] Does that

[51:49] >> department of public safety

[51:50] >> state agency?

[51:52] Yes.

[51:53] >> So inter agencies, highway patrol, I80

[51:57] tie-ins, all of those. Okay.

[51:59] >> Yeah. Well, any anything that goes into

[52:01] DPS

[52:03] um the that is is able to be put on

[52:07] their hot list for their procedures or

[52:09] standards, we would have access to

[52:11] unless they partition and make a case

[52:13] sense. [laughter]

[52:14] >> So, Chief, in your professional opinion,

[52:17] what

[52:19] having that versus not having that,

[52:21] what's the difference or why the

[52:22] request, you know, why why the request?

[52:25] Well, I I see it as I have 10 extra eyes

[52:28] all the time with short with the

[52:30] staffing issue. I have two officers on

[52:32] most of the time, especially at night.

[52:34] And if I can cover the perimeter of our

[52:36] city and know if somebody's coming in

[52:39] that may be nefarious to our citizens or

[52:42] harm somebody and I can direct resources

[52:44] and then and we have a little bit more

[52:46] time to react and set up a plan, that's

[52:49] worth it to me. especially if we can

[52:51] verify and we can we can make um verify

[52:55] the information and and make it it safer

[52:58] for not only the suspect but the per uh

[53:00] anybody else involved and the officer.

[53:03] So, we've used it. We know we've get

[53:06] hits out here on Main Street um right

[53:08] before uh or right after the the meat

[53:11] plant there. We know they're coming

[53:13] westbound. We'll stage right here. We

[53:15] know the road's wider. If we think

[53:17] they're going to run, we'll just we can

[53:19] throw spike strips before. So if they

[53:20] decide to just run, they're going to run

[53:22] them over. We can catch them later. We

[53:23] don't have to pursue them. We don't

[53:24] pursue anyway unless it's a violent

[53:26] felony. But we can have our resources

[53:29] staged in the widest point of the city

[53:31] or the road and that just things like

[53:34] that. We use it and it helps. So

[53:40] yeah, this thisou we have the flock

[53:43] system. Thisou is expanding our data

[53:46] sharing or being able to ex to look at

[53:48] the data from DPS hot list that they

[53:52] manage.

[53:53] But we need to verify is what they're

[53:55] saying. Verify the information

[53:58] and then that's where the liability

[53:59] comes on the officer. If they don't

[54:00] verify it and they continue down the

[54:02] road after they even you got to verify

[54:05] and if you make a mistake you got to let

[54:06] you go up there and you make a mistake

[54:08] and you got to you got to leave. But um

[54:11] we haven't had that happen.

[54:14] Is there any extra charge for this?

[54:17] >> No, it's all the it's all wrapped into

[54:20] the the system that we already paid for.

[54:28] Anybody have any additional questions

[54:30] for the chief?

[54:36] Any

[54:41] discussion that anyone would like to

[54:43] have with the council? Express your

[54:45] opinions.

[54:49] » Rat, what do you think?

[54:54] » I mean, I I I think I side with the the

[54:56] chief with just with utilizing

[54:58] technology. I and I understand the fear.

[55:00] We we got multiple emails and and

[55:03] citizens reaching out to us, but the

[55:06] fact of the matter is we're already

[55:07] utilizing this technology and um this

[55:10] just, you know, enhances their ability

[55:12] to to get information in real time and

[55:15] to make plans. And so I I think it makes

[55:17] our city safer. I I I I don't like big

[55:20] brother looking on me either, but we

[55:23] live in a in a day and age where that

[55:26] just is hard to avoid. So,

[55:30] >> okay.

[55:30] >> Anyways,

[55:31] >> thank you. Jake, what do you think?

[55:32] >> I struggle with this one. Uh, honestly,

[55:35] um, you know, I anytime we're talking

[55:37] about and I know we're we're we're not

[55:40] talking privacy because it's public

[55:42] places. However, we you know, we we

[55:48] co hasn't really taught us anything. It should have taught us something,

[55:51] right? So I I really struggle with

[55:54] anytime

[55:57] we're

[56:00] you know entering an area that that

[56:04] could be a violation of you know

[56:06] citizens abilities to to you know but I

[56:10] is I think the biggest part of it to me

[56:11] is completely understanding theou and

[56:14] how the data is moved. I think I I I'm

[56:17] not prepared to vote on this tonight. My

[56:19] opinion, um I would like to have, you

[56:24] know, some more time to be able to get a

[56:28] clear understanding of how that

[56:29] information moves and where it moves and

[56:32] how we control it and what our

[56:33] procedures are to control it. Um

[56:36] I know this is a product that has

[56:41] helped um I mentioned that, you know,

[56:43] that triple homicide that happened. um

[56:46] was a theft of a vehicle and the guy

[56:48] just shot the two hikers for the

[56:50] vehicle. They tracked him through this

[56:53] license plate recognition program like

[56:56] and he was traveling from Utah, I think

[56:58] to Colorado or they anyway. So, is there

[57:02] a benefit? Yeah. Is there a safety

[57:04] benefit? Absolutely. I just anytime we

[57:06] hedge into,

[57:10] you know, um just that that's important

[57:12] for me. I think to be able to vote on

[57:14] this would be knowing, you know, how

[57:16] that data is moved and and what programs

[57:19] we have in place. I I appreciate hearing

[57:21] that, you know, we have a 30-day I know

[57:23] on theou it says that there's a 24h hour

[57:26] period for those hot lists and they're

[57:27] dropped. Um

[57:31] and and I think that's the

[57:34] >> there's an NCIC as well which is a

[57:37] national um database where everything is

[57:40] verified before it gets put in and then

[57:43] that that is part of it as well.

[57:45] >> I do think it's important to know what's

[57:46] happening around us and being connected

[57:48] in that process. um you know if we have

[57:52] the pro the you know we already have the

[57:54] cameras in place it'd be kind of like we

[57:57] we're blind to what's happening around

[57:59] us and I don't think that's safe safe

[58:02] for our citizens as well either. So but

[58:06] I I don't know my my feel is

[58:09] this one maybe needs a really good

[58:12] review of theou and understanding of at

[58:14] least for me. So that's where I'm at.

[58:17] >> Thanks Jake. [clears throat]

[58:19] Um, I mean, I'm all for giving our

[58:21] police officers tools to help their job.

[58:24] Um, be more productive and safer. Um,

[58:29] and nothing against your chief or your

[58:31] department, but I'm 100% against flock

[58:34] and what they do. [clears throat] Um, so

[58:37] whether we vote for it tonight or in a

[58:39] week, I will be a no vote. I would like

[58:42] to get rid of the flock cameras

[58:43] altogether in our city and everywhere.

[58:47] my opinion,

[58:48] >> Britney.

[58:49] >> I mean, I've kind of already said mine.

[58:50] I mean, I I I think it's a tool that,

[58:53] you know, we expect officers to have

[58:54] cameras on them when and we request it.

[58:57] We want it. We want those tools

[58:58] available. These are tools that

[58:59] available them to help keep us safe. I

[59:01] mean, I think it's especially when

[59:03] they're running two at night. So, if one

[59:04] guy's tied up, you've got somebody else

[59:06] to know somebody else is coming in the

[59:07] city. I think it's a tool and it's it's

[59:10] the same information they can run on

[59:11] their computer. So, it would just be

[59:13] they're not getting any more

[59:14] information. and they're not seen.

[59:16] They're just knowing when somebody

[59:17] enters the city. So I I mean I know

[59:20] we're not voting on the flot cameras.

[59:21] The DPS from my understanding is just

[59:23] giving us a bigger database. And so the

[59:25] more I mean obviously if somebody's

[59:27] coming down I 80, we have highway, we

[59:29] have people going to other states. I

[59:31] mean yeah.

[59:35] [clears throat]

[59:35] >> Thanks Britney. Jeff, what are your

[59:36] thoughts?

[59:37] >> Um

[59:40] yeah I hear what everybody's saying and

[59:43] feel the same thoughts. I and I I tend

[59:45] to agree with what Rat said, I tend to

[59:48] support the chief and um

[59:52] like we talked about all through

[59:53] budgeting how short staffed we are. So

[59:56] if it gives us additional 10 eyes and additional

[1:00:01] security then I think it's a good thing.

[1:00:06] » Chief, anything else?

[1:00:07] >> Protection of information is a huge

[1:00:09] concern. personal information and every

[1:00:12] level of our lives right now and that's

[1:00:14] a worry.

[1:00:15] >> Yeah,

[1:00:16] >> absolutely.

[1:00:17] >> I think I don't think I answered Derek's

[1:00:19] question. How do we who manages it? Our

[1:00:22] lieutenant our investigation lieutenant

[1:00:24] is the one who audits and reports to me

[1:00:26] if there's and he's also over our invest

[1:00:29] internal investigations and so and he

[1:00:32] provides all the access and the

[1:00:33] trainings and all that. So we do have

[1:00:35] internal controls as well. So,

[1:00:39] and then you mentioned I80. We would

[1:00:41] only get information if they hit on our

[1:00:43] 10 cameras coming in, not the state.

[1:00:46] >> So, what information are we getting from

[1:00:47] DPS then? Only if the hot list comes in

[1:00:50] >> hits our cameras, it will say, "Hey,

[1:00:52] Gransville, you have a stolen vehicle

[1:00:53] that's on our hot list."

[1:00:55] >> But that would be on their hot list,

[1:00:56] right? So, we're we're wanting to know

[1:00:58] their hot Yeah. It's not because we have

[1:00:59] our own hot list. I'm assuming we can

[1:01:01] put on. So, this would be notifying us

[1:01:03] somebody else on DB. Otherwise, without

[1:01:05] this, we wouldn't have access to would

[1:01:07] have less data.

[1:01:08] >> Would it would it hit if somebody from

[1:01:10] >> No, their hot list wouldn't be shared

[1:01:12] with us.

[1:01:12] >> Yeah. So, this is just giving us access

[1:01:15] to their

[1:01:15] >> more visibility.

[1:01:16] >> Right.

[1:01:18] >> So, years ago we and to make it home, we

[1:01:21] had a shooter come here in Grantsville

[1:01:23] to our laundry man.

[1:01:25] >> Yeah.

[1:01:25] >> Would that have helped prevented that?

[1:01:28] >> If they had information that they could

[1:01:30] put into the system that was verified

[1:01:32] for their hot list of policies and

[1:01:34] procedures and they put it in there.

[1:01:36] Yes. And if we had one and they knew

[1:01:39] that information and it came in on Main

[1:01:40] Street just like where we had it and it

[1:01:42] says, "Hey, plates here. This guy's

[1:01:43] wanted for homicide." Um, yeah, we would

[1:01:46] know

[1:01:52] just like Yeah. Just like your example,

[1:01:55] the triple homicide, that's how it

[1:01:57] worked.

[1:01:58] >> The NCIC is would be on this list too if somebody's Yeah.

[1:02:06] And we get that anyway if we run it, you

[1:02:08] know, like you say,

[1:02:09] >> but the license plate will pick that up.

[1:02:10] >> Yep.

[1:02:17] » All right. I think we've had some really

[1:02:18] good discussion and thank you, Chief,

[1:02:20] for all your information and of course

[1:02:22] for all that your department does for

[1:02:25] our city and keeping us all safe. Is

[1:02:27] there anybody that would like to make a

[1:02:29] motion?

[1:02:32] » I will make a motion. I have vote that

[1:02:34] we approve resolution 2026-34 approving

[1:02:36] a memor memorandum of understanding for

[1:02:39] the automated license plates recognition

[1:02:41] data sharing as presented by the chief.

[1:02:45] >> We have a motion by council member

[1:02:46] Skinner. Is there a second?

[1:02:48] >> I'll second.

[1:02:49] >> A second by council member Butler. All

[1:02:51] in favor?

[1:02:52] >> I.

[1:02:54] >> All opposed?

[1:02:55] >> Nay.

[1:02:56] >> We'll do a roll call. Uh council member

[1:02:59] Butler.

[1:03:00] >> I abstained. abstained.

[1:03:03] >> No.

[1:03:03] >> Nay.

[1:03:04] >> Skinner.

[1:03:05] >> I.

[1:03:06] >> Williams.

[1:03:06] >> I.

[1:03:07] >> All right. The motion passes. Thank you.

[1:03:10] >> Uh, Council Thomas, if you want to come

[1:03:13] and we can go over this and help you

[1:03:15] better understand it as well, just so

[1:03:17] it's not sitting out there and, uh, we

[1:03:19] can invite DPS for a phone call as well

[1:03:22] if you'd like. So, thank you.

[1:03:24] >> Yeah. Appreciate your your staff, Chief.

[1:03:28] Thank you.

[1:03:30] >> All right. Agenda item number seven,

[1:03:32] consideration of resolution 2026-56

[1:03:35] approving the Utah ICAC task force me

[1:03:38] memorandum of understanding and

[1:03:40] accepting the fiscal year 2027 ICAC

[1:03:44] grant award.

[1:03:46] >> So this is uh IAK Utah. Um this is what

[1:03:50] Detective Ba Basset and Zero kind of

[1:03:53] specialize in the child exploitation and

[1:03:56] um anyway we are affiliates with IAC and

[1:04:00] have been for many years and they

[1:04:03] provide an award um which is monetary is

[1:04:06] $10,000 for their affiliated agencies

[1:04:10] and we use the this uh these funds for

[1:04:13] um equipment software uh lease which is

[1:04:17] a data extraction tool for when we soft

[1:04:20] or cell phones, etc. that we have

[1:04:22] trained detectives to use and that's

[1:04:25] about 8,800 a year. So, it helps pay for

[1:04:27] that and then just some training and

[1:04:30] some equip other equipment after that.

[1:04:32] But we with IAC, we're actually uh

[1:04:35] sending our new detective Bey to their

[1:04:37] boot camp academy. So, he will be able

[1:04:40] to to help with these cases and learn

[1:04:42] how to run them as well. So,

[1:04:46] I think this is most of most of you here

[1:04:49] last year. It's pretty much the same um

[1:04:52] agreement.

[1:04:58] Mayor, I make a motion we approve

[1:05:00] resolution 2026-56

[1:05:02] approving the Utah IAC task force

[1:05:05] memorandum of understanding and

[1:05:06] accepting the fiscal year 2027 IAC grant

[1:05:11] award. We have a motion by council

[1:05:13] member Butler. Is there a second?

[1:05:15] >> I'll second the motion.

[1:05:16] >> Second by council member Skinner. All in

[1:05:18] favor?

[1:05:21] >> Thank you.

[1:05:22] >> All right. Thanks, Chief.

[1:05:24] Agenda item number eight, a discussion

[1:05:26] regarding potential grant matching funds

[1:05:29] for the Grantsville Historic

[1:05:30] Preservation Committee. And I believe

[1:05:32] this will be presented by Ala. And I'm

[1:05:34] sorry, I don't know how to say your last

[1:05:36] name.

[1:05:36] >> Calc.

[1:05:38] >> That

[1:05:38] >> think of Las

[1:05:40] Sam at the end. Okay. [laughter]

[1:05:43] [gasps]

[1:05:44] >> Good evening, Madame Mayor. So nice to

[1:05:46] finally meet you. I only miss on videos

[1:05:49] or photos. and council members. As the

[1:05:52] chair, my name is Ala Kano and as the

[1:05:55] chair of the Grantsville Historic

[1:05:56] Preservation Commission, I am here

[1:05:58] tonight to request your approval to

[1:06:01] apply for a certified local government

[1:06:03] CLG grant that would help us take the

[1:06:07] next important step in preserving and

[1:06:09] promoting Gransville historic character.

[1:06:13] Since its formation, the Historic

[1:06:15] Preservation Commission has worked

[1:06:16] diligently to increase awareness and

[1:06:19] appreciation of our community historic

[1:06:21] resources. Our first major project was

[1:06:25] the creation and publication of this

[1:06:27] booklet and I hope that all of you have

[1:06:28] a copy in your home. If you don't,

[1:06:30] please take one from CIA.

[1:06:33] And um we were able to do that by

[1:06:36] applying for a CLG grant which uh we had

[1:06:39] the matching grant the funds that we

[1:06:41] used to restore the donor greet museum.

[1:06:45] So um these booklets highlight many of

[1:06:48] the historic buildings that make our

[1:06:50] city unique. As you can see the cover of

[1:06:54] our that this booklet this is not the

[1:06:57] first time this home has been presented

[1:07:00] or published. This is the residence that

[1:07:03] is on the corner of Hail and Main

[1:07:04] Street. I want to present to you this

[1:07:06] book that was published by the state of

[1:07:09] Utah that also has that home published.

[1:07:12] So, it is pretty unique, pretty awesome,

[1:07:14] and we definitely want to protect it.

[1:07:18] We have also successfully organized

[1:07:20] historic home tours, which I provided a

[1:07:23] flyer. We are seeking for residents that

[1:07:26] own historic homes to sign up for this

[1:07:29] year's tour, which has become very

[1:07:31] popular community event. This year will

[1:07:34] mark our third annual tour featuring

[1:07:36] additional historic homes and providing

[1:07:38] residents and visitors with a greater

[1:07:40] appreciation of Bransfield Heritage.

[1:07:44] In addition, the commission has assisted

[1:07:46] homeowners on some years to applying for

[1:07:48] this grant, which will support

[1:07:51] preservation and repair projects for

[1:07:53] their historic properties. While these

[1:07:55] efforts have been great and valuable, we

[1:07:58] believe there is an opportunity to do

[1:07:59] more. At our monthly meeting last week,

[1:08:02] we met with Chris Hansen and Corey

[1:08:04] Jensen from the Utah State Historic

[1:08:06] Preservation Office to discuss the

[1:08:09] potential creation of Grantsville First

[1:08:11] Historic District.

[1:08:14] They advised that the first step is to

[1:08:17] complete a reconense level survey of

[1:08:21] buildings within the proposed district

[1:08:23] boundary. On the screen you see our

[1:08:26] first attempt, our first draft of the

[1:08:29] boundary that we were uh thinking about.

[1:08:32] This survey will update the estate

[1:08:34] historic resource database which have

[1:08:37] not been updated since 1987

[1:08:41] and will help determine whether there is

[1:08:44] sufficient concentration of historic

[1:08:46] resources to establish a viable historic

[1:08:49] district. The estimated cost of the

[1:08:51] survey is approximately $25,000

[1:08:55] based on roughly about 1,200 buildings

[1:08:58] within the proposed study area. We were

[1:09:01] informed that this project is allegible

[1:09:03] for funding through the CLG grant

[1:09:06] program. The grant will provide up to

[1:09:10] $15,000

[1:09:12] in funding and require a matching

[1:09:15] contribution from the city. this

[1:09:17] application deadline is this month on

[1:09:19] the 31st. We just found that out last

[1:09:21] week. Um, and like I said before, we use

[1:09:24] a grant to do this and we use matching

[1:09:27] froms on the city on a project that the

[1:09:30] city was already doing. So, I am

[1:09:32] bringing this to your attention and

[1:09:33] hoping that maybe we already are doing a

[1:09:36] project on the city. they could qualify

[1:09:39] as the matching grant instead of coming

[1:09:41] with the $15,000

[1:09:43] uh new fund.

[1:09:46] Tonight, we are requesting your approval

[1:09:48] to proceed with submitting the CLG grant

[1:09:50] application for this project. The

[1:09:53] proposed study area generally includes

[1:09:55] property located between Carl Street and

[1:09:58] West Street and between Main Street and

[1:10:00] Clark Street and some um boundary has

[1:10:03] been extended up in the north of the

[1:10:06] image that you see.

[1:10:08] Establishing a historic district could

[1:10:10] provide significant long-term benefits

[1:10:12] to Grantsville. I have provided a copy

[1:10:15] of some common benefits that other

[1:10:18] cities and towns have received by having

[1:10:20] a historic district that you can review

[1:10:22] at your uh time when you can. But I'm

[1:10:26] going to mention that increased heritage

[1:10:28] tourism and visitor spending, enhancing

[1:10:31] marketing in the community branding

[1:10:33] opportunities, as well as eligibility

[1:10:36] for federal historic preservation tax

[1:10:38] credits up to 20%

[1:10:42] on qualifying re rehabilitation

[1:10:44] projects, providing financial assistant

[1:10:47] to owners of historic properties,

[1:10:50] greater neighborhood pride and community

[1:10:53] engagement. additional investment and

[1:10:56] revitalization of historic areas.

[1:10:59] A historic district is not simply about

[1:11:02] preserving old buildings. It is a

[1:11:05] strategic investment in Grantsville's

[1:11:07] future. One that can protect our

[1:11:10] heritage, it strengthen our community,

[1:11:13] encourages investment, and enhances

[1:11:16] community pride. We believe this grant

[1:11:19] opportunity is an important step in evaluating

[1:11:24] whether a historic district is right for

[1:11:26] Grantsville and we respectfully ask for

[1:11:29] your support in allowing us to submit

[1:11:31] this application. Thank you for your

[1:11:34] time and consideration. But I also have

[1:11:36] Bill Habby here to share with you some

[1:11:40] of his experience of why this is a great

[1:11:43] move.

[1:11:44] >> Also known as Bill Cooabe. It's okay. I

[1:11:47] know you uh get your last name butchered

[1:11:50] just as much as me, so we're we're Yeah,

[1:11:52] we're good. So, if you look on the

[1:11:54] screen here, you'll see homes or dots

[1:11:57] that are on homes that are already kind

[1:12:00] of identified in the the state historic

[1:12:04] preservation office as uh

[1:12:08] bu uh homes or buildings that are of of

[1:12:10] significant historical interest. Some of

[1:12:13] them are already listed on the National

[1:12:15] Register of Historic Places, but not all

[1:12:17] of them. The purpose for doing a

[1:12:20] historic district is so that we can

[1:12:22] qualify for additional resources for

[1:12:25] homeowners that are in historic

[1:12:27] buildings or homes that uh can

[1:12:31] uh help keep them up there. It's an

[1:12:33] expensive proposition to keep these

[1:12:34] places up. Um you for example switching

[1:12:38] out windows. You would think you just

[1:12:39] call Anderson or one of these places and

[1:12:41] have them come bring you windows. It's

[1:12:44] not that at all. I smiling over there.

[1:12:46] He knows it's it's a labor of love and

[1:12:49] it's a constant effort to keep these

[1:12:51] buildings up. So having a little bit of

[1:12:52] additional resources um or through some

[1:12:55] grant money or other things, having a

[1:12:58] district makes that available to you and

[1:13:00] for you. So um this is important and and

[1:13:03] again as Ala points out and I should say

[1:13:07] I don't know how many of you know Ala

[1:13:09] are familiar with her background she is

[1:13:11] an architect and designer and has an

[1:13:16] immense passion and love for uh

[1:13:19] Grantsville city. Her master's thesis

[1:13:22] when she was getting her degree was

[1:13:24] about uh Grantsville and a proposal that

[1:13:28] she had put together for Main Street.

[1:13:30] and it's absolutely wonderful.

[1:13:34] So the the the interest and the passion

[1:13:37] is there and I hope that that's obvious

[1:13:39] in in what she has said but also in the

[1:13:41] efforts that she's making to make

[1:13:42] Grantsville stay unique and interesting.

[1:13:45] The way to do that is through this kind

[1:13:47] of effort and um so

[1:13:51] we know that the the budget is tight. We

[1:13:54] know that uh there are considerations

[1:13:57] that need to be brought to bear, but the

[1:13:59] ask is uh we feel like uh a pretty small

[1:14:03] ask in the grand scheme of things to

[1:14:04] help us get these things going. So

[1:14:07] that's where we're at, I think. Is that

[1:14:09] helpful?

[1:14:10] >> Yeah. Wonderful.

[1:14:11] >> Anything else you need?

[1:14:13] >> Okay.

[1:14:13] >> Thank you. Thank you.

[1:14:17] >> Does anybody have any questions for Ala

[1:14:19] or Bill?

[1:14:20] >> Um I I don't have any questions. made

[1:14:23] more of a comment. Um, this I'm actually

[1:14:26] glad this item has been brought uh in

[1:14:30] front of the group. this this year we

[1:14:32] had some brick falling off of one of our

[1:14:35] historic buildings and that individual

[1:14:39] I tried to connect with them to see what

[1:14:42] we could do to to find grants or

[1:14:44] whatever to you know preserve it in what

[1:14:49] it should be and and those individuals

[1:14:50] are forced to have to to do that on

[1:14:53] their own accord and so uh this avenue

[1:14:57] is is I think it's a it's a great idea

[1:15:01] great move in the right direction. So,

[1:15:03] it's my opinion.

[1:15:03] >> I do have a question. She said there may

[1:15:05] be already a project going that could

[1:15:07] count for these funds. Do we have

[1:15:08] anything that would count for

[1:15:09] [clears throat] these or is this would

[1:15:10] this be a separate 15,000 that we need

[1:15:12] to allocate?

[1:15:14] >> Anybody [laughter]

[1:15:15] ask?

[1:15:17] >> No, I don't know. So, I don't think we

[1:15:19] have a specific line item for this kind

[1:15:22] of thing, but uh to Ala's point, I think

[1:15:26] everything that we put into this,

[1:15:27] including the time that the the um

[1:15:32] historic preservation commission spends

[1:15:35] discussing these kinds of things and

[1:15:36] pursuing grants and and um establishing

[1:15:39] the district and all of those things

[1:15:41] that all of that counts towards the

[1:15:44] match. So you put a dollar value to the

[1:15:46] hours that are spent on those things.

[1:15:48] That's part of the match. So it's it's

[1:15:51] not necessarily a strict we want 12

[1:15:55] grand, they're going to ask for 12 grand

[1:15:58] kind of a thing. It's it's more of a

[1:16:00] what are you doing that's helping us out

[1:16:02] in this regard. So there's some offset

[1:16:05] there. It wouldn't necessarily have to

[1:16:06] be the full dollar figure. It's there's

[1:16:10] inind contributions that count as well.

[1:16:13] >> Yeah. So we just have to allocate this.

[1:16:16] >> Correct. This would be a budget

[1:16:18] amendment that would have to come later

[1:16:20] >> when we adopt the final budget and

[1:16:22] include that.

[1:16:24] >> But it doesn't necessarily spend it.

[1:16:25] Right. If we if we can

[1:16:27] >> well if we don't get the grant

[1:16:29] direction is would you like us to apply

[1:16:31] for the grant? We be back to have you

[1:16:34] make that budget.

[1:16:35] >> Okay.

[1:16:38] » It's just applying. It's not a guarantee

[1:16:41] that we'll get it. We're hoping that we

[1:16:43] will get it.

[1:16:44] >> We're probably pretty likely. I felt

[1:16:46] like in our conversations with the shipo

[1:16:47] that I thought

[1:16:48] >> yeah surveys for this kind of effort are

[1:16:50] very um like by the state. It's

[1:16:53] something that they love to

[1:16:55] >> these kind of projects are huge.

[1:16:56] >> These are the kind of projects that they

[1:16:57] like to see happening.

[1:17:00] >> So So what qualifies a home or a

[1:17:02] building for for this? So there are

[1:17:05] certain requirements that go year.

[1:17:07] >> If they're about as old as you, Derek,

[1:17:08] [laughter]

[1:17:09] >> then they qualify as No, it's it it is

[1:17:12] interesting. What did you say? 40 years.

[1:17:14] >> No, 50 years. It has to be 50 years.

[1:17:16] >> So I would qualify

[1:17:18] >> and not necessarily. You have to have um

[1:17:21] historic significance.

[1:17:23] >> Oh, shoot. Well,

[1:17:24] >> you have to uh have uh somebody

[1:17:26] important uh from Grantsville to live

[1:17:28] there or build it. Uh it could be uh the

[1:17:31] architecture of it is important for the

[1:17:34] history is significant for the history

[1:17:36] of Grantsville. Maybe it was a style

[1:17:38] that was built in an era and it was

[1:17:41] repeated and it shows the heritage of

[1:17:44] Gransville. So things like that or it

[1:17:47] was a unique building but it hosted uh

[1:17:50] important events for the city.

[1:17:52] >> If I could give you a little example,

[1:17:53] there's a historic district and I

[1:17:55] brought this up to the the commission.

[1:17:58] Um

[1:17:59] there's a historic district in Orum

[1:18:01] where I grew up that's called the

[1:18:02] Cristile

[1:18:04] um historic district and there are these

[1:18:07] cute little salt box homes that were

[1:18:09] built in the 40s that were for the

[1:18:12] people who came to work at the steel

[1:18:14] plant at Geneva Steel

[1:18:16] >> and they're all pretty boring and

[1:18:19] they're all not super unique and you

[1:18:21] wouldn't look at them and think anything

[1:18:23] other than well this is just a boring

[1:18:25] old neighborhood but then when you start

[1:18:27] peeling back the layers and you learn

[1:18:28] about the history of these buildings.

[1:18:30] Each individual building may be not

[1:18:32] super cool, but together they represent

[1:18:35] a part of the history of the city of

[1:18:38] Oram, which doesn't have a super great

[1:18:40] history. And it's it's awesome to be

[1:18:42] able to have those touchstones where you

[1:18:44] can go back to and draw from when you

[1:18:48] are making decisions about how do we

[1:18:50] want to proceed into the future? What is

[1:18:52] our city going to look like going

[1:18:53] forward? How do we draw clues

[1:18:55] design-wise from cool old buildings that

[1:18:58] give Grantsville a character that's

[1:19:01] unique and interesting and informative

[1:19:04] for future decisions?

[1:19:06] >> Well, it tells the story of who we are

[1:19:09] >> where we came from. Exactly. So, I just

[1:19:11] had the opportunity to be a few days ago

[1:19:14] in Savannah, Georgia, stood in a in a

[1:19:17] >> in a home that had George Washington's

[1:19:21] where he would

[1:19:23] >> entertain. And I'm like, if Walls could

[1:19:26] tell a story, you know, and so and I'm

[1:19:28] glad that structure is still there in a

[1:19:31] much older part of the country and we

[1:19:33] live in a much newer part of the

[1:19:34] country. So, protecting what we have is

[1:19:37] I think it's important. So, But a lot of

[1:19:40] these homes in this area represent the

[1:19:44] early the earlier days in Grantsville.

[1:19:46] >> Yeah.

[1:19:47] >> And this is the area that, you know, the

[1:19:49] commission designated as the the most

[1:19:53] likely area to to have this this

[1:19:56] historic district. And we've been

[1:19:58] working on this since the first part of

[1:19:59] the year when our first meeting in

[1:20:01] January. And we feel pretty strongly

[1:20:04] that, you know, this is um something

[1:20:06] that that that we'd like to support and

[1:20:08] do. So,

[1:20:10] >> if I may add, you all know Hilda

[1:20:12] Anderson Ericson and how important she

[1:20:15] has been for our time. We have her

[1:20:18] monument right up front. Do you know

[1:20:21] where her house is?

[1:20:23] And is it protected?

[1:20:26] She's important to us.

[1:20:29] We should care for where she lived and

[1:20:32] be a place of remembrance.

[1:20:35] I want to clarify one point too as well

[1:20:37] that being in a historic district does

[1:20:40] not mean that you can't tear down the

[1:20:43] home if it's

[1:20:44] >> problematic. You can't do changes. You

[1:20:47] can't all of these things. Um this just

[1:20:50] gives you an extra layer of federal

[1:20:52] recognition and protection and again

[1:20:54] qualifies you for those grants. So this

[1:20:56] is a worthwhile effort.

[1:21:03] Basically,

[1:21:07] » I think it's great. I when I did the

[1:21:09] tour on Clark Farm, I learned I mean, I

[1:21:11] didn't know half about Grandville that I

[1:21:13] was very informative. It's nice to have

[1:21:14] people that know and remember and can

[1:21:16] especially since we're having new

[1:21:17] developments and it's nice to keep this

[1:21:20] original.

[1:21:21] >> Exactly.

[1:21:22] >> And how many of us know where our

[1:21:24] downtown was and how many downtowns we

[1:21:27] had locations? It was not in the same

[1:21:30] place.

[1:21:32] It will be great to preserve that and

[1:21:35] educate a community.

[1:21:41] » Yeah, this has my support. So, what

[1:21:44] whatever we're looking for a grant

[1:21:46] standing, I'll I'll support this

[1:21:49] discussion.

[1:21:49] >> So, yeah, this this is a discussion.

[1:21:52] >> However, I guess do we just want to give

[1:21:55] them direction to go and apply for the

[1:21:57] grant and then

[1:21:59] >> reevaluate? we evaluate after that is

[1:22:01] awarded

[1:22:03] >> because even if they apply for the grant

[1:22:05] and then uh the council says I'm sorry

[1:22:09] we just can't fund this then

[1:22:11] >> then we don't get the grant

[1:22:13] >> and this is a yearly grant that we can

[1:22:15] apply for every year.

[1:22:17] >> So if we find ourselves

[1:22:19] >> that we can't this year then we can

[1:22:20] again do it again next year.

[1:22:22] >> Next year. That's right.

[1:22:23] >> But again the sooner the better so we

[1:22:25] can

[1:22:26] >> July 31st exactly is the date. So I

[1:22:29] think the direction that the council is

[1:22:30] giving you is to proceed with the grant

[1:22:32] application and then we will make

[1:22:35] decisions when that application has been

[1:22:38] submitted.

[1:22:38] >> Thank you.

[1:22:39] >> So seem acceptable to everyone. Okay.

[1:22:42] >> Thank you.

[1:22:50] » Okay. Agenda item number nine.

[1:22:52] Consideration of resolution 2026-53

[1:22:55] approving a pilot service agreement with

[1:22:58] Kids Can for the Kids Can Yellow Can

[1:23:01] program and that is going to be

[1:23:03] presented by

[1:23:04] >> Just interject just really quickly. What

[1:23:06] is the beeping sound?

[1:23:08] >> Oh, that is the fire alarm for the

[1:23:09] library. It's going off. We're trying to

[1:23:11] figure out why.

[1:23:12] >> Yeah, it's pretty loud.

[1:23:13] >> Yeah, we're trying to figure out what's

[1:23:15] setting it off. There is not a fire, so

[1:23:17] there's no alarm there.

[1:23:18] >> I did see the fire.

[1:23:20] I heard the truck come down.

[1:23:22] is turned back on.

[1:23:23] >> So, they're trying to turn it off.

[1:23:26] >> It's a lot of louder probably outside

[1:23:28] the building.

[1:23:29] >> All right. So, I just do apologize.

[1:23:31] >> Okay.

[1:23:32] Jessica, with that wonderful

[1:23:34] introduction, go ahead, please.

[1:23:36] >> Well, it's nice to be here tonight and

[1:23:38] thanks for having us. So, um my name's

[1:23:41] Jessica White and I'm just here to kind

[1:23:43] of a quick recap on our program. We're

[1:23:46] um working on starting a program called

[1:23:48] Kids Can that will benefit children in

[1:23:50] the community. We were seeking a pilot

[1:23:53] um community and we know the city of

[1:23:56] Grantsville is very supportive in making

[1:23:58] the city better and it's a great

[1:24:00] community. So, we asked the previous

[1:24:02] mayor if he'd be interested in this

[1:24:04] program. Right now, I serve as the

[1:24:06] president of a nonprofit in the Salt

[1:24:08] Lake area called the Ward Refugee

[1:24:10] Foundation. And I know how hard it is to

[1:24:12] start a nonprofit in communities, but I

[1:24:15] have seen a difference that it makes

[1:24:17] when cities and businesses and other are

[1:24:21] involved in helping the life of children

[1:24:23] and families. As I was talking to my

[1:24:25] husband and my family, we felt like this

[1:24:27] was something that Tilla County was

[1:24:29] missing. Um we don't have a lot of these

[1:24:31] programs that um will help children in

[1:24:35] whether it's be in school, community, or

[1:24:37] outreach programs. We will focus on

[1:24:39] children that are underserved or have

[1:24:41] experienced some type of trauma. We are

[1:24:43] going to be able to help them feel loved

[1:24:45] and seen through this program. We are

[1:24:47] looking to help establish to help

[1:24:50] established youth programs as well as

[1:24:52] individuals. Tonight we are meeting to

[1:24:54] ask for the pilot service agreement to

[1:24:56] be approved and we look forward to

[1:24:57] serving and helping the community.

[1:25:01] >> So here we are.

[1:25:04] >> Does anybody have any questions for

[1:25:06] Jessica about the kids? can.

[1:25:10] >> Yes. [laughter] What What is it? It's a

[1:25:13] >> So, it's a um yellow can garbage can

[1:25:15] service and they have it's a year annual

[1:25:18] that they can pay $120 a year or $10 a

[1:25:21] month that can be broken up into $10 a

[1:25:24] month and um it's just an idea that we

[1:25:27] it's kind of a program that um the

[1:25:31] biggest thing is people kind of forget

[1:25:32] about you. So, it's natural

[1:25:33] advertisement through the yellow can. So

[1:25:36] people see what we are and then they

[1:25:38] donate to that and the money we we will

[1:25:40] buy the cans and so it's no cost to the

[1:25:43] city but the money that comes from that

[1:25:44] we will put back into the community to

[1:25:46] serve um children or kids in the area.

[1:25:51] >> So define that a little more Jessica

[1:25:53] because it says that

[1:25:55] >> so it's $120 completely voluntary right?

[1:25:58] >> Yep. Completely voluntary. So yeah so

[1:26:00] we'll be marketing it. Yeah. It says 1%

[1:26:04] comes back to the area and 15%

[1:26:08] um comes to for recreational

[1:26:11] improvements or maintenance is

[1:26:13] determined by the city.

[1:26:14] >> Yeah. So um

[1:26:15] >> talk to me about the rest of the

[1:26:17] percentage

[1:26:18] >> and I apologize my husband ended up

[1:26:20] having an emergency surgery. So the 1% I

[1:26:23] think if I remember right you guys can

[1:26:26] help with this. I think was the cost. If

[1:26:28] it cost the city anything then we'll

[1:26:30] help um pay for some of that. the 15%. I

[1:26:34] know he's talked to Mayor Hammond um

[1:26:36] about some of the parks and things that

[1:26:38] you wanted to see to help the children

[1:26:40] in the area, but we will be keeping

[1:26:42] other I mean it's just not 15%. We'll

[1:26:45] definitely be seeking out we've talked

[1:26:47] to the education foundation and several

[1:26:49] other community support and we're hoping

[1:26:51] to work with them and um get money back

[1:26:55] into the community to help um children

[1:26:57] throughout the Groundsville area.

[1:27:00] Are you selecting specific kids to help

[1:27:04] or general type thing?

[1:27:06] >> Yeah, so it just depends. Like in Salt

[1:27:08] Lake, I work with city council members

[1:27:10] and mayors. I work with counselors in

[1:27:13] the school districts. I work with

[1:27:15] education foundations. I work with a big

[1:27:17] soccer program that gives away like five

[1:27:19] grants. So kind of we'll mimic the same

[1:27:22] thing just whatever's in the community

[1:27:23] that we feel. It may even be arts and

[1:27:26] music for someone um a child that's gone

[1:27:28] through some trauma that will support a

[1:27:29] year of arts or music for them as a

[1:27:31] scholarship. There's many things that we

[1:27:34] have done and we plan on kind of

[1:27:36] mimicking that same thing in this

[1:27:38] community.

[1:27:40] And so it'll be a lot of community

[1:27:42] outreach, getting to know what's needed,

[1:27:44] meeting with, you know, even principles

[1:27:47] at times. I've met with principles that

[1:27:48] will go through sometimes they asked me

[1:27:50] to help like five families for Christmas

[1:27:52] or something like that or five children,

[1:27:54] you know, that we can um one year we

[1:27:56] went in and there was 20 I think 20 25

[1:28:00] children that needed shoes and so we

[1:28:02] went in and provided shoes for them. So

[1:28:04] it it's a lot of different things

[1:28:06] sometimes. Um we have talked to the

[1:28:08] Children's Justice Center. Um, so

[1:28:10] there's a lot of needs in the community

[1:28:12] and we're just here to try to market

[1:28:15] them and hopefully bring that um people

[1:28:17] will support it and bring that back so

[1:28:19] that we can help with youth programs.

[1:28:25] » And how how will somebody enroll? Let's

[1:28:28] say I want a yellow can.

[1:28:30] >> What's my step to do that? So, we just

[1:28:33] um we're working on all the final

[1:28:35] details now, but we'll have a website

[1:28:37] and an enrollment program that they'll

[1:28:38] just fill out their forms and their

[1:28:40] payment and we'll take care of that side

[1:28:42] of things so it's not any burden on the

[1:28:45] cities. And um then we'll take care of

[1:28:48] the cancellation and all of that, but we

[1:28:50] need to work with the city just to make

[1:28:52] sure that the cans are getting out and

[1:28:53] that we will pick them up if they cancel

[1:28:56] their program that or their can. And

[1:28:58] >> that's administrative fee.

[1:28:59] >> Yeah.

[1:29:05] The administrative fee is taken out of

[1:29:07] that 1%. Is that what

[1:29:08] >> that's the 1% is administrative fee and

[1:29:09] then we're also getting the 15% that that they out of the whole program

[1:29:14] for the city we'll get 15% of that to go

[1:29:17] towards parks or whatever recreation the

[1:29:19] city council decides. And then anything

[1:29:22] I mean if they have another cause that

[1:29:23] they want to

[1:29:24] >> that we want to we can go to them for

[1:29:26] any other extra beyond that

[1:29:28] >> like we'd love to work with your count

[1:29:30] like a council member if they have ideas

[1:29:32] or you guys see something in the

[1:29:33] community. We'd love that. We hope it's

[1:29:35] supported and we'll that's why it's a

[1:29:37] pilot program. We're going to try and

[1:29:39] see if we can um get something going so

[1:29:41] it can be a positive recognition in the

[1:29:44] community.

[1:29:45] >> What other cities are you working with?

[1:29:47] Um, we have talked to several cities,

[1:29:49] but we really needed just to I mean,

[1:29:52] I've talked to Draper, Riverton, we've

[1:29:55] talked to West Valley, South Salt Lake

[1:29:57] because I work with that mayor a lot. We

[1:29:59] um talked to Twilla City, but we really

[1:30:02] just we need to make sure we have a

[1:30:04] pilot program so we're ready to before

[1:30:07] we go and hopefully grow bigger. So,

[1:30:11] that's kind of we've worked with um back

[1:30:14] east. They do this a lot for um breast

[1:30:17] cancer and we've talked to cities back

[1:30:18] there that do it and um how they pilot

[1:30:21] that or how they started that program

[1:30:23] and so we have talked to other cities

[1:30:26] that have had this program but we don't

[1:30:28] have any currently in Utah that do.

[1:30:32] >> So this is build separately

[1:30:35] >> from the city like this isn't going to

[1:30:38] come through on my city bill?

[1:30:39] >> Nope.

[1:30:40] >> It'll be totally separate.

[1:30:41] >> Totally separate. Yeah. What do we do

[1:30:44] with the old garbage can? We have, the

[1:30:45] old gray one.

[1:30:46] >> Um, so we talked to Ace about that and

[1:30:49] they said, I mean, their idea was

[1:30:52] eventually they get broken and, um, it

[1:30:54] saves you guys money because you don't

[1:30:56] have to keep putting money into buying

[1:30:58] new garbage cans if people are using

[1:30:59] ours. But, um, they will recycle them.

[1:31:02] They usually, they said they usually get

[1:31:04] phone I mean the city gets phone calls,

[1:31:07] but they come and pick them up if

[1:31:08] there's broken lids or broken wheels.

[1:31:10] And sometimes the city repairs them.

[1:31:11] Sometimes they go into retirement and

[1:31:13] then they replace those, but then most

[1:31:16] of the times the city pays for those new

[1:31:18] cans.

[1:31:22] So, I mean, I guess they would just be

[1:31:24] stored here till the next person needs

[1:31:26] them. And I'm

[1:31:28] >> with the growth, I'm sure you'll get new

[1:31:30] people using them. But

[1:31:31] >> if I get two yellow cans, what do I do

[1:31:33] with my

[1:31:33] >> Yeah, they'll come. Yeah. And that was

[1:31:35] part of it is the city would come pick

[1:31:36] them.

[1:31:37] >> Then we'll give it to a new a new new

[1:31:38] homeowner that comes in and obviously

[1:31:40] paint it first

[1:31:41] >> and then if they don't want the yellow

[1:31:43] can or pay the extra for it.

[1:31:45] >> Yeah.

[1:31:45] >> But it helps if everyone in the city

[1:31:47] does decide to do this then the city

[1:31:49] won't have to buy those those cans. And

[1:31:51] I think their last can purchase was like

[1:31:54] $90,000.

[1:31:55] >> Yeah. And Yeah. Um the cans are about an

[1:31:59] they hope to get seven to eight years

[1:32:00] but that could with the wind storms and

[1:32:02] things lower the thing but

[1:32:04] >> cost

[1:32:05] >> 65

[1:32:06] >> $65.

[1:32:08] So your initial investment is 50% of

[1:32:12] what

[1:32:12] >> Yeah. So we yeah we've already Yeah.

[1:32:14] We've already are working on getting all

[1:32:17] that. So it is a big investment for us

[1:32:19] to put into it. That's our commitment is

[1:32:22] we are committed to try to make this

[1:32:24] work and

[1:32:25] help the community is really what we're

[1:32:27] trying to do. It's just a nonprofit to

[1:32:30] >> Your husband came and he he presented to

[1:32:32] us last year. I believe it was last

[1:32:34] year.

[1:32:34] >> Yep. It's been a while. We've been

[1:32:35] working on this. So

[1:32:39] >> my my only other thought was and this is

[1:32:41] just clearly for transparency, but even

[1:32:44] though it's a nonprofit,

[1:32:46] I'm sure you guys are allowed to keep a

[1:32:48] certain percentage to run the program.

[1:32:51] >> I wish that was disclosed, didn't you?

[1:32:53] >> Yep. And so um I've studied a lot of

[1:32:56] nonprofits because I agree with that.

[1:32:58] And it's really isn't disclosed. is by

[1:33:00] state statute and only 30% have needs to

[1:33:04] go to the nonprofit and we are a big

[1:33:07] believer in that you need to have we're

[1:33:10] hoping 70%. But it just depends if we

[1:33:13] can find like right now we're working

[1:33:15] with someone to hold our cans for um and

[1:33:17] that would be their donation. But if we

[1:33:19] have to pay rent, that is a cost if we

[1:33:21] have to. I mean, we will have to have a

[1:33:23] few workers to maintain the cans and if

[1:33:26] we need help with anything and marketing

[1:33:28] them. But we are hoping that the

[1:33:31] majority of that will stay cuz I agree

[1:33:33] with you. Like I'm the president of our

[1:33:35] foundation and I don't take any money.

[1:33:37] So, I work full-time for free and um for

[1:33:41] the Ward Foundation right now and um but

[1:33:45] there's several other foundations that

[1:33:46] they are paying their directors or

[1:33:48] presidents 100,000 and we just we don't

[1:33:50] believe in that. We believe that it

[1:33:52] needs to come right back to what we

[1:33:54] started it for. So, I mean, I can't give

[1:33:57] you a figure because we're not sure.

[1:33:58] Like I said, we're just getting this

[1:34:01] started. But our goal is that the

[1:34:03] majority will stay within helping and

[1:34:06] not

[1:34:08] serving someone else on our board. So,

[1:34:10] >> and this is just a one-year agreement

[1:34:12] and then we can come back and revisit

[1:34:14] see how it did like it at after that

[1:34:16] time.

[1:34:16] >> I thought this doesn't say five in here.

[1:34:18] >> It does say five at the beginning

[1:34:20] because we needed some time for the

[1:34:22] Yeah,

[1:34:23] >> but we can I'm happy to revisit anytime

[1:34:27] we need to.

[1:34:29] >> But this is an agreement with the

[1:34:30] citizens. It's just a yearly.

[1:34:33] >> Yeah, it's just a yearly and then they

[1:34:35] can either cancel at that time or it's

[1:34:37] just automatically renewed kind of like

[1:34:39] any other unless they choose to cancel.

[1:34:44] I have just kind of an administrative

[1:34:46] type question as far as how our garbage

[1:34:48] is dumped now. So, I have two of the

[1:34:52] black or gray cans, whatever you want to

[1:34:54] call that. And so, it's build with my city utility bill. Mhm.

[1:35:00] >> So, let's say like Brett said, I now

[1:35:03] have two yellow cans.

[1:35:05] How does that affect my city billing?

[1:35:09] Can somebody from the city explain that

[1:35:11] to me?

[1:35:12] >> Doesn't change a thing. You still pay

[1:35:14] for the garbage where just you just have

[1:35:16] the yellow.

[1:35:17] >> You still pay for ace to dump your

[1:35:19] >> If I have two cans in my front yard, I'm

[1:35:22] still going to have be charged for two

[1:35:24] cans, but they're just going to be

[1:35:25] yellow.

[1:35:25] >> The other's a donation. So yeah, and we

[1:35:28] feel like the $12 a month, that's like

[1:35:31] giving up a coffee or a meal out. It's

[1:35:33] pretty reasonable for people. So um

[1:35:36] that's what we're hoping is they'll pay

[1:35:38] that extra to help like community

[1:35:41] benefit the community and the children

[1:35:42] in the community. And that's something

[1:35:44] we will be marketing, but yeah, it will

[1:35:46] not affect

[1:35:48] >> so

[1:35:48] >> your bill. I mean, it's a donation

[1:35:50] >> the donation pretty much. Yes. pickup is

[1:35:53] all in favor and

[1:35:54] >> yeah, we've met with them two or three

[1:35:56] times and

[1:35:58] >> they just said it's really up to the

[1:35:59] cities. We contract through them. It

[1:36:01] will not interrupt our service. We'll

[1:36:02] still do the same thing and so we'll

[1:36:05] pick up the yellow cam. But we went to

[1:36:07] lunch with um someone from I mean we've

[1:36:11] been meeting with a lot of them but just

[1:36:12] like two weeks ago and she just said it

[1:36:15] won't interrupt what we do.

[1:36:17] >> Okay. So

[1:36:22] » I like it

[1:36:23] >> since it's tech technically a donation.

[1:36:26] Like we said, do at the end of the year

[1:36:28] the citizens that apply for this get a

[1:36:30] tax write off sometime?

[1:36:31] >> Yeah. So we'll mail out a Yeah, we'll

[1:36:33] mail out a

[1:36:35] oh form for a t uh you know for a

[1:36:38] donation. I'm trying to think of the

[1:36:40] form name, but yes, we will mail that

[1:36:41] out for a tax write off to everyone that

[1:36:44] has signed up for the program.

[1:36:47] I like it because it's a donation.

[1:36:49] People can choose to do it but not to do

[1:36:50] it. And if they don't want to donate,

[1:36:51] they don't have to donate. But I think

[1:36:52] it's a way that we can help nonprofits.

[1:36:54] I've actually worked with the word

[1:36:56] refugee foundation. I have a friend

[1:36:57] that's the board as well. So they've

[1:36:59] done a lot of great things for people.

[1:37:00] >> Yeah. Yep. It's been very successful. So

[1:37:03] >> yeah, I mean I agree like where's the

[1:37:05] money going? But I feel like it's keeps

[1:37:08] coming back to our community. still

[1:37:10] doing things in the community. I think

[1:37:13] >> Jessica, could there be maybe in a year

[1:37:16] if if this is approved, could you come

[1:37:18] in and do a report maybe even in six

[1:37:21] months as to where the funding is going

[1:37:22] and how it's helping our community and

[1:37:25] just kind of give us an update.

[1:37:26] >> Yeah, we want to be transparent and we

[1:37:28] need to be transparent for if we get

[1:37:30] grants or anything like that. And so

[1:37:32] we'd love to be as transparent as

[1:37:33] possible. we can say where the money was

[1:37:36] allocated, who we helped, who we're

[1:37:38] working with or community partners. So,

[1:37:40] we would love to be as transparent as

[1:37:43] possible with all of that.

[1:37:45] >> I just I would love to like help too if

[1:37:47] just to say I think it's great. I think

[1:37:49] it's good to give back community. So,

[1:37:50] I'd be interested in

[1:37:51] >> Yeah, I think it's something we're

[1:37:52] missing out here. I see a lot of

[1:37:55] resources and a lot of programs offered

[1:37:58] in Salt Lake and I feel bad that we

[1:38:00] don't have that out here that we can

[1:38:01] give back to those that need it most

[1:38:03] because until you meet those basic needs

[1:38:06] of children then I mean education and

[1:38:09] home life and everything's affected. So

[1:38:14] » Jessica, do you live here in

[1:38:15] Grantsville?

[1:38:16] >> I live in Stanbury.

[1:38:18] >> Okay. But just yeah just mentioned out

[1:38:20] here. So I

[1:38:20] >> Yeah. Oh,

[1:38:21] >> the the county. We're hoping to get it

[1:38:23] countywide is our goal.

[1:38:26] >> Yeah.

[1:38:34] » Anybody have any thoughts or items of

[1:38:37] discussion they want to bring up to the

[1:38:39] council before we have a motion?

[1:38:41] >> My assume was the five unit

[1:38:44] pilot program.

[1:38:46] I can get that, too.

[1:38:48] >> Well, I just I I was thinking the same

[1:38:50] thing. I mean, we got a lot of attorneys

[1:38:52] in the room here and uh

[1:38:54] >> almost almost on my hand. I can count on

[1:38:56] all of [laughter] them. But, uh, I I if

[1:38:59] we could add some sort of section in

[1:39:01] here that just states or or revise this,

[1:39:05] um, term and termination that that, you

[1:39:07] know, we we reserve the right um, in a

[1:39:11] year to be able to say, well, this

[1:39:13] probably isn't working out or, you know,

[1:39:16] or just be able to renew it. I I don't

[1:39:18] know that's something we can do. But, I

[1:39:20] mean, I understand that this is there.

[1:39:22] >> Yeah. I think from our standpoint is

[1:39:24] we're buying it cost us a lot up front

[1:39:27] to buy the cans and we're buying a lot

[1:39:29] of cans and marketing and it takes a

[1:39:31] long time. It's taken me four years to

[1:39:33] get the award foundation to almost

[1:39:35] double in size. So, it's taken us a long

[1:39:38] time and I just think a year would be

[1:39:39] very difficult to have this where we

[1:39:42] want it and um there will be hiccups the

[1:39:45] first year a little bit and that's why

[1:39:46] we're asking for your support and help

[1:39:49] but I think it would be very difficult

[1:39:51] to make that kind of a donation on our

[1:39:53] part just to have it taken away after a

[1:39:56] year. I understand if we've done

[1:39:58] something that you don't like and I

[1:39:59] think there's clauses in that there for

[1:40:01] that but um we're investing a lot

[1:40:04] ourselves too and so for a year to

[1:40:07] market it and get it going. I mean if

[1:40:10] anyone's kind of worked in a business or

[1:40:12] startup it's it's very difficult. the

[1:40:13] lowest you think okay with right now

[1:40:17] >> the lowest number I would like to see at

[1:40:20] least three but I would be okay meeting

[1:40:24] each year and going through that but I

[1:40:27] don't know

[1:40:28] >> well I mean these terminations for cause

[1:40:31] material breaches of this agreement and

[1:40:33] fails to cure within 30 days of written

[1:40:35] notice becomes insolvent or ceases

[1:40:37] operation or engages in conduct that

[1:40:40] poses a risk to public health safety or

[1:40:43] city's reputation. That last one's

[1:40:45] pretty broad broad, but anyways,

[1:40:47] >> I just What is our risk though? I mean,

[1:40:49] that's kind of

[1:40:50] >> I mean, it's a volunteer.

[1:40:52] >> Well, and that's the thing is if it

[1:40:53] flops.

[1:40:54] >> Yeah. It's kind of our money and our

[1:40:55] time. Yeah.

[1:40:56] >> I don't I don't see a really a liability

[1:40:58] on the city. Other than we're saying,

[1:40:59] "Yeah, you could do this." Unless there

[1:41:01] it does cause problems, which obviously

[1:41:03] we would have a require.

[1:41:04] >> Here's a potential issue. Okay. So, I

[1:41:07] get two yellow cans and I give up my two

[1:41:10] gray cans and they go away. And let's

[1:41:13] say that this becomes insolvent and I

[1:41:16] want my gray cans back. Well, guess

[1:41:18] what? I got to buy two new gray cans,

[1:41:21] right, Christie?

[1:41:22] >> Well, she left. That's

[1:41:24] >> Yeah, that's I mean I I would I would

[1:41:26] need to purchase those two great

[1:41:31] >> $65 as opposed to $120.

[1:41:34] [laughter]

[1:41:36] Yes. Yes. That would be that would be I guess on the people on

[1:41:39] the people who sign up. They would have

[1:41:40] to have that agreement to know in place

[1:41:42] like okay I understand

[1:41:44] >> and we could put that in our policies

[1:41:46] and procedures. So

[1:41:48] >> um yeah and that is something that but

[1:41:51] then yeah I guess it saves you the 120

[1:41:53] that you're paying. So

[1:41:58] » yeah that's another thing I was

[1:41:59] wondering. You should put it in your

[1:42:00] backyard so you have more trash in them.

[1:42:02] [laughter]

[1:42:03] >> Well, you're not supposed to put out

[1:42:04] three cans if you only have two,

[1:42:08] >> right?

[1:42:08] >> I'm not taking it down because we we

[1:42:11] charge for that or we get charged for

[1:42:12] that as a city that

[1:42:13] >> per

[1:42:19] I'd be okay with three with like a

[1:42:21] yearly review. Come back every year,

[1:42:24] report how it's going, how many

[1:42:27] subscribers you have.

[1:42:28] >> Okay. where the money's kind of gone in

[1:42:30] the community. Tell us some happy,

[1:42:32] successful stories about some of the

[1:42:33] kids, you know. So,

[1:42:34] >> yeah, I'd love that. Yeah, that's what

[1:42:37] we're hoping for. So,

[1:42:40] >> I I think you're really hoping for a

[1:42:42] city to sign this agreement. Yes.

[1:42:45] [laughter]

[1:42:45] >> And you take [clears throat] the lead on

[1:42:47] this so that you can tell other cities

[1:42:49] that, hey, Gransville City,

[1:42:51] >> yeah, it's been successful there. We've

[1:42:53] >> they've done this.

[1:42:54] >> Yeah. I mean, yeah, that is what we're

[1:42:56] hoping for to show success and that it

[1:42:58] works and that we can move to other

[1:43:00] cities that could use this.

[1:43:02] >> I'm just thinking from a staffing

[1:43:04] standpoint, you know, we talk about no

[1:43:06] cost incurred by the city. Trying to

[1:43:07] think of all of the scenarios. I'm

[1:43:10] assuming we'll get calls, hey, my

[1:43:11] neighbor has a yellow can, so we are

[1:43:14] going to have some city

[1:43:16] >> be sure you guys are delivering the cans

[1:43:18] to us and then we deliver the cans to

[1:43:19] the

[1:43:20] >> Yeah. So you because you'll be picking

[1:43:21] up the can anyway and that's what we

[1:43:23] talked about. But we do have volunteers

[1:43:25] and board members that have said like we

[1:43:27] could help

[1:43:28] >> 12 can replacements a week anyway for

[1:43:31] just like average usage for like my

[1:43:35] can's broken, my lid fell off or

[1:43:37] whatever. I'm just trying to see what

[1:43:39] impact this has on the city outside of

[1:43:41] what we've

[1:43:42] >> like if it's successful then we

[1:43:44] ultimately if everyone starts buying

[1:43:45] yellow cans and we won't have to pay

[1:43:47] that cost anymore for the city.

[1:43:50] >> That would be nice because it's very

[1:43:52] expensive. Otherwise, we continue to buy

[1:43:54] the cans and continue to our same

[1:43:55] program that we're going to do. Um the

[1:43:58] other thing is yeah, you're you're right

[1:43:59] that we're going to get a lot of calls.

[1:44:01] We already filled that and then the

[1:44:03] question is do we have to then redirect

[1:44:05] them to

[1:44:07] uh your

[1:44:07] >> Yeah, I think they would have to be

[1:44:09] directed to us portion of that and

[1:44:10] that's where we threw in an

[1:44:11] administrative fee plus the the park fee

[1:44:15] to go along with that to help cover

[1:44:16] those costs right there.

[1:44:21] » If the yellow can is broken, is that you

[1:44:23] then they would call and say, "Hey, my

[1:44:25] yellow can's broken."

[1:44:26] >> No, they'd call the city and they would

[1:44:27] ask for more cans. Yeah, but we have

[1:44:29] >> but they'll just drop off like

[1:44:30] >> Yeah, we'd have cans or parts take those

[1:44:32] place like we currently do.

[1:44:47] » There's no further questions or

[1:44:50] comments. I need a motion.

[1:44:55] I motion that we approve resolution

[1:44:57] 2026-53

[1:44:59] approving a pilot service agreement with

[1:45:01] a three-year agreement with review every

[1:45:04] year as we discussed with kids can for

[1:45:07] the kids can yellow cam program.

[1:45:09] >> We have a motion by council member

[1:45:11] Skinner. Is there a second?

[1:45:13] >> I'll second.

[1:45:14] >> A second by council member Dalton. All

[1:45:16] in favor?

[1:45:17] >> I.

[1:45:19] >> All right. Let's give this a go.

[1:45:21] >> Thank you.

[1:45:22] >> All right. Thank you.

[1:45:28] » We talk some more garbage. [laughter]

[1:45:32] >> It's the topic of the night.

[1:45:33] >> That's right. More garbage. Um, agenda

[1:45:35] item number 10, a discussion regarding

[1:45:37] the ACE bulk waste pickup.

[1:45:43] » Who's this?

[1:45:44] >> Oh, good. I was like,

[1:45:46] >> no. Uh we're wanted to have council's

[1:45:49] input on this because we have got a

[1:45:51] couple quotes on doing bulk pickup again

[1:45:54] and whether the council wants to do

[1:45:55] that. Um it ranges there's you can

[1:45:58] either do two times a year which ends up

[1:46:00] being uh close to like 12 to $15 per

[1:46:05] pickup or we can do it. So that' be

[1:46:07] twice a year.

[1:46:09] >> No hold on twice a year at a resident's

[1:46:11] home or like our pickup day that we do

[1:46:14] now with dumpster home. Not at this.

[1:46:16] is the bulk pickup we're talking

[1:46:18] about where we're going back to the old

[1:46:19] way we used to do it in Gratzville where

[1:46:21] you pick it up in front of your house.

[1:46:22] >> You throw out an old couch and it sits

[1:46:25] there for three or four weeks and then

[1:46:27] finally gets picked up.

[1:46:28] >> Correct. Well, hopefully not like that,

[1:46:30] but hopefully it's during their week

[1:46:31] that they have to be done and map it out

[1:46:33] and do all of that. Uh there was

[1:46:35] interest in uh bringing this forward. So

[1:46:38] that's what we want to see what the

[1:46:39] council's desire was.

[1:46:41] >> I got a lot of requests for that. So

[1:46:43] would this be on top of what we

[1:46:45] currently do, correct? Which is

[1:46:47] >> in the spring or we would either stop

[1:46:50] that because we wouldn't necessarily

[1:46:52] need to do that anymore

[1:46:54] >> or you could continue to do that and

[1:46:56] this as well. But this would be a pass

[1:46:58] through cost to the residents um because

[1:47:01] it's uh

[1:47:03] again doing the whole city uh depending

[1:47:05] on which route we take. If we do it the

[1:47:08] every month, that ends up being more

[1:47:10] like a

[1:47:12] three and a half to$5 cost per month per

[1:47:16] resident. So it ended up being more at

[1:47:19] the end of the year if you do it every

[1:47:22] month. So again, you're ranging from an

[1:47:25] additional $200,000 to like $400,000 for

[1:47:29] the cost of this program. And so that's

[1:47:31] the question is it would be a direct

[1:47:33] pass through to the residents. So if you

[1:47:35] as a resident wanted to have the bulk

[1:47:37] pickup, it would either be all or

[1:47:40] nothing. You couldn't like opt in to one

[1:47:42] or two residents to do it. It's either

[1:47:44] we do it for the whole city or we don't

[1:47:46] do it at all.

[1:47:48] >> So everybody gets charged.

[1:47:50] >> Yeah. Yes.

[1:47:52] >> Because we just increased all the fees

[1:47:53] and everything like that. That was kind

[1:47:55] of the question is whether we wanted to

[1:47:57] implement this at all.

[1:47:58] >> What do we pay each year to do the

[1:48:00] dumpsters twice a year? Anyone? It's She

[1:48:03] gave

[1:48:04] >> We had the numbers. I want to say it was

[1:48:06] like 8,000.

[1:48:07] >> Yeah, I think it's

[1:48:08] >> eight or 9,000 I believe is what I I'm

[1:48:10] going off of memory which is dangerous.

[1:48:12] >> Her dumpster and we rotate through.

[1:48:14] >> Yeah.

[1:48:14] >> Um

[1:48:16] I I'm trying to see the the reason for a

[1:48:18] need for this specifically when we have

[1:48:20] a landfill and if you have a trailer,

[1:48:22] you just throw it couch on a trailer and

[1:48:25] take it there.

[1:48:26] >> That's the problem.

[1:48:27] >> They do have

[1:48:27] >> ones that don't. Well,

[1:48:31] yeah, but is it the responsibility of

[1:48:33] every citizen to pay for the ones that

[1:48:35] don't? That's the question. And I guess,

[1:48:36] do you want us to put out a survey to

[1:48:39] the residents to get

[1:48:40] >> I think even wanted to approach that.

[1:48:45] >> Here's my problem. We we just we just

[1:48:49] debated for three months on a 5%

[1:48:53] property tax increase that amounted to

[1:48:55] on average a$127 a month.

[1:48:59] and and and here we are talking about

[1:49:01] adding another $3.50

[1:49:04] to every resident in Grantsville so that

[1:49:06] we can have a bulk waste pickup. I just

[1:49:10] I mean

[1:49:12] it's just another way to tax. I I'll

[1:49:14] just I'll just say it straight up and I get it. Um it it it does make our our yards and our homes cleaner,

[1:49:24] but I just I just don't know if I can

[1:49:26] get behind it. This is This is my

[1:49:28] thought. I don't think

[1:49:30] >> it is just another way to tax, right?

[1:49:32] >> And and we had a I mean,

[1:49:35] >> it's it's one thing to donate to a 501c3

[1:49:37] and and pay an extra $10 a month um or

[1:49:42] $120 a year, which is vastly more than

[1:49:46] the 5% that we were asking. So, but

[1:49:50] that's a voluntary donation. This is

[1:49:53] forced on everyone and it's an

[1:49:55] additional tax above and beyond

[1:49:57] >> the things that we've already had to

[1:50:00] increase and this is not necessarily

[1:50:01] something we have to do. So that's my

[1:50:04] thought.

[1:50:04] >> I agree with Rhett

[1:50:05] >> because it's all or nothing then people

[1:50:07] can't opt out of it and so if I do pay

[1:50:08] for the dump you know then I'm paying

[1:50:10] for both.

[1:50:11] >> I agree. I think the what we currently

[1:50:13] do is fantastic. Like I mean I know it's

[1:50:16] only

[1:50:17] >> and it's wellreceived. I know it's only

[1:50:19] twice, you know, well, it's is it twice?

[1:50:22] a year, which I actually think is

[1:50:26] >> and there's a cost associated with that

[1:50:28] and I know individuals take advantage of

[1:50:30] that for that opportunity. Does it mean they could have something

[1:50:34] in their yard longer or something that

[1:50:38] um

[1:50:40] I mean we we do want to keep Gransville

[1:50:43] beautiful and but I think that's an

[1:50:45] opportunity that we give the residents

[1:50:48] to

[1:50:50] allow for that. Um, and I I yeah, I

[1:50:53] don't I don't like the idea of of making

[1:50:56] it something across the board and

[1:50:57] forcing forcing the hand of someone to

[1:51:00] >> also that but

[1:51:01] >> to be part of something at the

[1:51:03] beginning. There's going to be couches

[1:51:04] sitting out for a month.

[1:51:06] >> I think that's why we got rid of it in

[1:51:07] the beginning

[1:51:09] >> was because of that. [laughter]

[1:51:11] >> There's couches sitting out on the

[1:51:13] sidewalk

[1:51:14] >> since we got rid of the program five

[1:51:16] years ago. They're still waiting.

[1:51:17] >> Well, they think the program's still in

[1:51:18] use. Oh, so

[1:51:20] >> they're just waiting for someone to

[1:51:21] [laughter] arrive here.

[1:51:21] >> You sure somebody's not sitting in that?

[1:51:24] >> They're not. There's no way.

[1:51:27] >> There we go.

[1:51:29] >> I thought that was perfect. No, I'm

[1:51:31] happy perspective staffwise. I mean, we

[1:51:34] just had a lot of request

[1:51:36] bring it to council.

[1:51:38] >> I think advertising when we do those two

[1:51:40] pickups, if they've got something

[1:51:42] specific for there, I think that's an

[1:51:43] opportunity to take advantage. I know

[1:51:45] people do um maybe some more information

[1:51:49] on landfill landfill costs. Landfill

[1:51:51] costs are significantly

[1:51:54] reduced. So

[1:51:56] >> for a vehicle you can

[1:51:59] >> I know household waste you can you can

[1:52:00] take a bit I Yeah,

[1:52:03] >> I don't see it.

[1:52:04] >> Okay,

[1:52:05] >> there we have it.

[1:52:10] Agenda item number 11, consideration of

[1:52:12] resolution 2026-52

[1:52:15] approving the Sunage Terrace master

[1:52:17] development agreement and master lot

[1:52:19] layout for phases 3 through six located

[1:52:22] at approximately 1161 West Main Street

[1:52:25] in the R121 residential district.

[1:52:30] >> Uh please bear with me because my laptop

[1:52:32] is down and so now I'm just using my

[1:52:35] phone.

[1:52:36] Um this is a master development

[1:52:39] agreement for Sunage Terrace. Um

[1:52:41] including the lot layouts for phases 3

[1:52:44] through six. Um in the lot layout um

[1:52:49] you'll see that phases a portion of

[1:52:53] phase four and five do have smaller lots

[1:52:57] than the R121 or the 21,780

[1:53:00] square ft that is required.

[1:53:04] Um the reason why those lots are

[1:53:06] smaller, you can keep going. It's ways

[1:53:09] down there. Um is because we have asked

[1:53:12] for the dedication of the half width of

[1:53:15] Main Street, which is an arterial road

[1:53:17] of 108 ft and the dedication of the

[1:53:21] collector on the west side which is 90

[1:53:24] ft.

[1:53:28] So here is your 90 foot. Um, and they

[1:53:31] are dedicating the full width of the 90

[1:53:33] foot and then the half width, which is

[1:53:35] right around like 54 feet of Main

[1:53:37] Street. Um, you know, you're going to

[1:53:39] ask, well, why did Main Street shrink

[1:53:41] here and then it's wider down here?

[1:53:45] Um, in our master transportation plan,

[1:53:48] it didn't show Main Street as an

[1:53:49] arterial, but our current master

[1:53:51] transportation does. It was just

[1:53:55] didn't continue passing with. So rest of

[1:53:58] these roads are at 66 ft. Um all these

[1:54:01] lots down here we once we get about up

[1:54:04] here we're at 20,000 square ft. There's

[1:54:06] a child at 21,780.

[1:54:11] » Do you know that

[1:54:13] background is a point?

[1:54:16] >> Yeah, but it doesn't work.

[1:54:17] >> It's been it's been what maybe three and a half months since you came

[1:54:22] and and talked with us and proposed this

[1:54:25] and I think we We talked about

[1:54:27] extensively we didn't have the MDA in

[1:54:30] place, but we talked about the smaller

[1:54:32] lots and and giving up that that right

[1:54:35] of way so that we didn't in the future

[1:54:38] encroach on the land of the uh the

[1:54:42] residents on Taylor Road to the to the

[1:54:45] west. And I I I think at the time, if I

[1:54:48] remember right, we all kind of agreed

[1:54:50] that we thought with the minimal amount

[1:54:52] of of square footage that was lacking on

[1:54:56] the halfacre lots and considering the

[1:54:59] efforts on on the developers, I I I

[1:55:01] thought we gave him direction to proceed

[1:55:04] in this manner and to come back with us

[1:55:06] once we had a an MV in place. So,

[1:55:10] >> correct.

[1:55:11] >> That's that's what I recollect

[1:55:13] with all this.

[1:55:20] And that was the variance that he

[1:55:21] requested.

[1:55:22] >> Correct.

[1:55:24] >> Thank you, R.

[1:55:30] And this did come with a recommendation

[1:55:34] from um planning commission.

[1:55:39] I believe this one was all three um

[1:55:42] voted for approval or voted yes. Um

[1:55:46] Derek was there for that. Um and uh

[1:55:49] there was only three at the meeting.

[1:55:55] » Shelby, remind me what the road is at

[1:55:57] the far end of the subdivision. Like the

[1:56:00] road that they're dedicating. What What

[1:56:01] is that? Is that

[1:56:03] >> So that is a collector road on the west

[1:56:06] side which will um connect into

[1:56:08] Highlands Boulevard.

[1:56:10] >> So we don't have a name for

[1:56:12] >> Highlands Boulevard.

[1:56:13] Okay.

[1:56:14] >> But it but it really in the master

[1:56:16] transportation plan it's the road that

[1:56:18] connects Green all the way around

[1:56:19] the town, right?

[1:56:20] >> No. I mean it will connect into but

[1:56:22] that's not the road.

[1:56:23] >> Okay.

[1:56:24] >> Yeah.

[1:56:24] >> That was the one that circled around and

[1:56:26] connected N Green.

[1:56:27] >> No, it'll green will go out. This is

[1:56:29] further

[1:56:31] >> east than where N green will be. Yes.

[1:56:33] Okay.

[1:56:39] » But the roads that are there that would

[1:56:43] continue west um sorry I don't know how

[1:56:46] exactly to describe that they would be

[1:56:48] able to reach the collector road

[1:56:51] that would loop around

[1:56:53] >> potentially depending on how everything

[1:56:56] built out. Right. So you have Clark

[1:56:58] Street on the north side um that is

[1:57:01] stubbed out. So if people on Taylor Road

[1:57:04] developed out that could potentially

[1:57:06] continue um and then there was an Main

[1:57:09] Street will obviously continue through

[1:57:11] that doesn't affect Taylor Road. So

[1:57:14] >> and then that main street would get to

[1:57:16] the

[1:57:17] >> Yes.

[1:57:17] >> Further west. Yep. Highlands Boulevard

[1:57:20] and Main Street will both have a

[1:57:21] connection to Okay.

[1:57:29] See where is it? [clears throat]

[1:57:36] This is

[1:57:40] I'm just looking at the U dot um

[1:57:43] connectivity study that we have for Tula

[1:57:45] County that I just have saved on my my

[1:57:48] laptop.

[1:57:50] >> No.

[1:57:50] >> So you're right. This is the road that

[1:57:52] connects into N green and it kind of

[1:57:55] circles around this way and then night

[1:57:57] green kind of circles around.

[1:57:59] >> Yep. Correct.

[1:58:01] >> To build.

[1:58:07] » It would just be on our master

[1:58:08] transportation plan.

[1:58:10] >> You're fine.

[1:58:16] This is actually the road that connects

[1:58:18] along the depo fence road and all the

[1:58:20] way to sheep plane, right?

[1:58:23] >> This this particular

[1:58:25] >> No, we're Taylor.

[1:58:27] >> No.

[1:58:28] >> Okay.

[1:58:30] >> No, this is up on by Matt Canyon Road.

[1:58:33] So, this won't be near

[1:58:35] >> the depot road.

[1:58:36] >> I understand that. But the connectivity

[1:58:38] plan shows a road that's in that in that

[1:58:42] vicinity in that area that connects with

[1:58:44] Main Street and then moves all the way

[1:58:47] along the depo fence road and all the

[1:58:49] way up button.

[1:58:50] >> Correct.

[1:58:51] >> That's just what that's just what it

[1:58:52] shows here.

[1:58:57] » Do you know if in the planning

[1:58:59] commission if there was any concern

[1:59:00] regarding the lot size specifically? Um

[1:59:03] there was discussion of why are we not

[1:59:07] keeping the lot sizes to meet the um the

[1:59:10] code. Um and it came down to well you

[1:59:13] know we're getting a full dedication

[1:59:15] width of the collector road that is

[1:59:17] being built out and then the half width

[1:59:19] of Main Street when these two roads

[1:59:21] don't are not required by his

[1:59:24] development.

[1:59:26] And if Derek has anything to add. No,

[1:59:28] that's is there just kind of tell us if we just went by the the lot sizes

[1:59:35] that needed, what would those road

[1:59:36] widths be for those those roads? What's

[1:59:38] the max we could we can make the

[1:59:40] developer do just so we know what

[1:59:42] >> so the trade-off is

[1:59:43] >> a 66t rideway with 32 ft of asphalt is

[1:59:46] the max that we could require for this

[1:59:48] development.

[1:59:51] So, we're gaining, you know, 30 feet on

[1:59:54] the west and then um just shy of 66 feet

[1:59:59] on the south

[2:00:09] times hundreds of feet.

[2:00:11] >> Yeah. Thousands.

[2:00:12] >> Yeah. On one end. Yeah.

[2:00:14] >> Thousand plus feet, I'm sure.

[2:00:19] And I I I know we've hit on this before,

[2:00:22] but the open space is

[2:00:25] >> HOA maintained.

[2:00:26] >> Okay.

[2:00:29] Those will likely probably be

[2:00:32] natural gravity depressions that are in

[2:00:35] those areas probably. Is there a canal

[2:00:37] that kind of go runs? Is that

[2:00:39] >> So there is a drainage ditch um that

[2:00:42] runs down there. They'll have a walking

[2:00:43] trail and you know like some tot lots by

[2:00:45] it and it'll walk through. So right now

[2:00:48] we are just um reviewing the final plan

[2:00:51] for phase three as that one was already

[2:00:53] um in progress meets the code um but

[2:00:57] will require a landscape plan and

[2:00:59] amenities.

[2:01:35] I know the MDA is just a draft, but it

[2:01:37] does have Mayor Crit signing it and

[2:01:39] that'll all be updated correctly.

[2:01:42] >> Correct. Yes.

[2:01:57] I think it's what we agreed to. I don't

[2:01:59] have any other questions.

[2:02:03] >> All right. If there's no other

[2:02:04] discussion, I need someone to make a

[2:02:06] motion.

[2:02:08] Mayor, I'll make a motion we approve

[2:02:10] resolution 2026-52

[2:02:12] approving Sun Sunage Terrace Master

[2:02:15] Development Agreement and master lot

[2:02:17] layout for phases 3 through 6 located

[2:02:19] approximately 1161 West Main Street in

[2:02:22] the R1-1-21

[2:02:25] resident residential district.

[2:02:27] >> We have a motion by council member

[2:02:28] Dalton. Is there a second?

[2:02:30] >> Second.

[2:02:30] by council member Butler. All in

[2:02:32] favor? I

[2:02:35] >> All right.

[2:02:40] Moving on to item number 12,

[2:02:43] consideration of resolution 2026-51

[2:02:46] approving a hold harmless and easement

[2:02:48] acknowledgement agreement for property

[2:02:51] located at 641 South Maxwell Drive.

[2:02:56] >> Yeah, this came from um planning

[2:02:58] commission. Um

[2:03:01] and now we are here at city council to

[2:03:04] determine if um [clears throat]

[2:03:06] city council will make a consideration

[2:03:08] for a hold harmless agreement. Um in

[2:03:11] 2025 the building department identified

[2:03:14] a detached metal garage on lot 602 at

[2:03:18] Wells Crossing subdivision. I personally

[2:03:20] went out there and took pictures um and

[2:03:24] didn't see any disturbance to the

[2:03:27] retention basin itself. It is built on

[2:03:30] easements. Um, this was built without

[2:03:34] building permits or a site plan. Um, and

[2:03:37] that's what's bringing us here today. We

[2:03:39] worked with the homeowner to get a

[2:03:41] engineer to um, you know, go out and

[2:03:44] determine that it's not affecting the

[2:03:46] freeboard or the pond storage um, of

[2:03:49] that of the property. So, it's not built

[2:03:51] in the basin itself. It's just built on

[2:03:53] the easement. Um, and then it's built

[2:03:56] on, I believe, the rear, um, the

[2:03:59] southern or eastern easement, which is

[2:04:02] the rear of their property. Um, and if

[2:04:05] you scroll down, you can see

[2:04:07] some pictures that we've So, here's a

[2:04:10] site plan. If you'll scroll up just a

[2:04:12] little bit.

[2:04:13] >> Sorry, it pops.

[2:04:15] >> So, [clears throat] um, in the blue is

[2:04:17] the actual basin itself, and then

[2:04:19] highlighted in the green is the

[2:04:20] easement. Um, and then there is the

[2:04:23] approximate location of the shed. And

[2:04:27] then if you want to keep scrolling down,

[2:04:33] so you can see the

[2:04:35] >> I swear

[2:04:36] >> basin there itself. Um, it's not

[2:04:40] affecting it to the point that they have

[2:04:42] enough room to be able to park their

[2:04:43] trailer there. And if you want to

[2:04:46] So again, they're they're not affecting

[2:04:48] the basin itself. If you want to keep

[2:04:51] going, keep going.

[2:04:54] So, it's inleting and outleting

[2:04:57] um as designed and is holding the same

[2:05:00] pond volume as designed. Keep going.

[2:05:06] You just scroll through these.

[2:05:09] Um this is the picture of when it was

[2:05:12] constructed by the developer or the home

[2:05:16] builder. You scroll down just a little

[2:05:17] bit more. There you go.

[2:05:27] So

[2:05:29] then we do have the PDF from their

[2:05:32] engineer.

[2:05:38] » When was this home constructed?

[2:05:45] » Sorry, I

[2:05:46] >> sorry question. I don't have [laughter]

[2:05:49] my laptop.

[2:05:50] >> What's the address again? Sure.

[2:05:52] >> Um [snorts]

[2:05:56] » 641 South Maxwell Drive.

[2:05:58] >> Thank you.

[2:05:59] >> Thanks.

[2:06:04] » So the retention basin is is it is it

[2:06:07] just for the property?

[2:06:09] >> Yes.

[2:06:13] » 2024.

[2:06:27] and they sit in an R121 zone or is this

[2:06:29] a is this an acre?

[2:06:32] >> Um, so it's an R121 zone, but with Wells

[2:06:36] Crossing in their development agreement,

[2:06:37] they are allowed smaller lots.

[2:06:39] >> This is a 0.5.

[2:06:41] >> Yeah.

[2:06:41] Okay.

[2:06:51] How far are they encroaching on the

[2:06:52] easement? It looks like

[2:06:55] >> Well, you go back to that other picture.

[2:06:57] There you go. Yeah. And zoom in to the

[2:06:59] top.

[2:07:01] >> Okay.

[2:07:03] Two feet on the

[2:07:06] right side, which

[2:07:08] is the west side maybe. South side

[2:07:11] maybe.

[2:07:12] >> Yeah. So,

[2:07:13] >> and then five feet on the

[2:07:16] other side,

[2:07:19] >> but it's not affecting in any way the

[2:07:21] volume that the pond can

[2:07:23] >> no

[2:07:23] >> can hold. And they had an they had an

[2:07:26] engineer actually go out and um give us

[2:07:28] a document and then we had Barry, the

[2:07:30] city engineer, review that and determine

[2:07:32] that it was not affecting the volume.

[2:07:38] » So, isn't this is a good thing, right?

[2:07:40] The whole harmless protects the city.

[2:07:43] Correct.

[2:07:44] >> Yes.

[2:07:46] >> And it looks like the homeowner's done

[2:07:48] everything we've asked him to do.

[2:07:50] >> Correct.

[2:07:51] >> Other than pull a permit.

[2:07:53] >> Oh, wow.

[2:07:53] >> Other than what did you say?

[2:07:55] >> Pull a permit to build the building.

[2:07:56] >> Oh, yeah. In the first place.

[2:08:00] Well, it also says right now he's not

[2:08:02] encroaching, but if something happens

[2:08:04] like we reserve the right to go back in,

[2:08:05] this that's what it says in here.

[2:08:08] >> Tyson,

[2:08:09] >> at least that's what I read. if it does

[2:08:11] eventually somehow.

[2:08:12] >> So the with respect to the uh public

[2:08:16] utility ements um if if there is a need

[2:08:20] to go in and and move something then those public utilities will will do

[2:08:24] that um of of which Grantsville City is

[2:08:27] one of the public utilities.

[2:08:30] So that'll be at the at the homeowners

[2:08:33] expense.

[2:08:41] These whole harmless agreements are

[2:08:44] helpful in these circumstances because

[2:08:46] it does protect the city. It puts leaf

[2:08:49] um the onus on the um the encroacher

[2:08:54] um in into the drainage area. This one

[2:08:56] is a lowrisk encroachment uh based on

[2:09:00] the engineering reports that have said

[2:09:02] that you know this is not into the the

[2:09:05] retention area. sort of up on the bank

[2:09:07] of the of the of the area. Um, but as as

[2:09:12] far as like a city policy for this type

[2:09:14] of thing, um, the hold harmless

[2:09:16] agreement protects a city if there were

[2:09:18] to be a more substantial encroachment

[2:09:20] that um, doesn't necessarily mean we

[2:09:22] would always allow that. if with the

[2:09:24] hold harmless agreement, but if we if it

[2:09:26] is a circumstance where we will allow

[2:09:28] it, the hold harmless agreement could

[2:09:29] accompany that approval um just for

[2:09:32] further protection for the city if

[2:09:35] somehow those water flows changed and um

[2:09:38] there was some damage to a neighboring

[2:09:40] property because of it.

[2:09:44] » Do we know if the old builder built this

[2:09:47] himself or did they have a builder do

[2:09:49] it? Do we know?

[2:09:50] >> I'm not sure. I mean looking at it, it

[2:09:52] was pretty nicely built because

[2:09:55] >> I just know from when I was on planning

[2:09:57] commission, we got quite a few of these

[2:09:59] like once every other meeting or so, you

[2:10:02] know. So I'm just trying to think like

[2:10:03] and it goes back to Mcichael like how do

[2:10:06] we educate it so then these don't come

[2:10:08] in front of us all the time like

[2:10:09] >> I thought it was you

[2:10:11] >> we send a mass email to the builders or

[2:10:13] what I mean [snorts] just how do we

[2:10:16] prevent this this from happening?

[2:10:20] That's no different than the curb cut we

[2:10:21] got a few weeks ago.

[2:10:23] >> That's what I said on McMichel. Yeah.

[2:10:26] Shouldn't have done that.

[2:10:32] I'll try to read.

[2:10:35] Thanks.

[2:10:38] Mayor, I make a motion to approve

[2:10:39] resolution 2026-51

[2:10:42] approving the hold armless and easement

[2:10:45] acknowledgement agreement for property

[2:10:47] located 641 South Maxwell Drive.

[2:10:49] >> All right, we have a motion by Council

[2:10:51] Member Butler. Is there a second?

[2:10:52] >> I'll second it.

[2:10:53] >> Second by Council Member Williams. All

[2:10:55] in favor?

[2:10:58] >> Okay.

[2:11:01] Item number 13, consideration of

[2:11:03] resolution 2026-55

[2:11:05] approving the Falcon's Landing Master

[2:11:07] Development Agreement for property

[2:11:09] located approximately at Booth Street

[2:11:11] and Wild Rose Drive.

[2:11:15] Keep going.

[2:11:18] Um, so staff brought this to planning

[2:11:21] commission right there. Click on that

[2:11:22] one. um earlier this year to discuss the

[2:11:26] extension of Wild Rose Drive and um I am

[2:11:31] just showing you the initial plat that

[2:11:33] was approved and you'll see lots like

[2:11:36] 11A and 11B and any lot that is named

[2:11:40] you know A and B are actually an

[2:11:42] attached um duplex and so they're I

[2:11:45] believe it's ends up being 29 units that

[2:11:48] could be placed on here. Um you can see

[2:11:50] the lots are right around 6,700 square

[2:11:52] ft² um with these attached units

[2:11:58] and then if you scroll click on your

[2:12:02] little side.

[2:12:04] >> So together they're like close to 13,000

[2:12:06] ft.

[2:12:08] >> Correct. So, initially they were 12,000

[2:12:10] ft², but because R112 allows for um

[2:12:14] attached duplexes, then in our code it

[2:12:18] says, you know, you have to add an

[2:12:19] additional,000 square ft and then you

[2:12:22] can cut that lot in half, which reduces

[2:12:23] it down to 6,000 ft and then you have a

[2:12:26] zero lot line where those homes are

[2:12:28] attached. You click on that plat.

[2:12:31] >> Yep.

[2:12:32] And so,

[2:12:34] um, what was done here is Wild Rose is

[2:12:37] now extended through so it can continue

[2:12:40] instead of deadending at Booth Street.

[2:12:42] And we have turned those lots, the 11A

[2:12:45] and the 11B or the A and B lots into

[2:12:48] single family detached homes. So you can

[2:12:50] see like lot 11 and 12 are 7,000 ft²

[2:12:53] versus the 6,700

[2:12:55] square ft they initially were with

[2:12:58] attached single family homes versus

[2:13:00] detached single family homes. Um now to

[2:13:04] address the setbacks, yes, this um

[2:13:07] development was vested with 7 and 1/2

[2:13:10] sideyard setbacks because our code used

[2:13:13] to say 7 1/25,

[2:13:15] but because it was ambiguous,

[2:13:19] that meant we had to um go in favor of

[2:13:21] the applicant. And so they were able to

[2:13:24] get the 7 and 1/2 and 7 and 1/2 on each

[2:13:26] side,

[2:13:28] >> which we've remedied and fixed, correct,

[2:13:30] in the past year.

[2:13:31] >> Yes. Now it is 7 and 12 on one side and

[2:13:34] 15 half on the other side.

[2:13:36] >> One way or the other.

[2:13:44] » Shelby, there's a lot of questions on

[2:13:46] this retention basin.

[2:13:48] >> Yes.

[2:13:49] >> Can you We had questions on depth on

[2:13:52] where the fence is going. Can you

[2:13:55] address all that?

[2:13:56] >> Correct. So the fence would obviously be

[2:13:58] on the property line. So it would go

[2:14:01] from lot 16 around to lot 9 down to lot

[2:14:06] six. Um so north down to the west side

[2:14:10] and then it would go around lot 5 all

[2:14:12] the way to lot one. Um because of like

[2:14:15] sight triangle issues and things like

[2:14:17] that. Lot 28 and 17 wouldn't have one

[2:14:19] because they do have a double front yard

[2:14:22] and so there would be issues with those

[2:14:24] two intersections.

[2:14:28] Um, I did a little bit of research while

[2:14:31] we were waiting. Sorry, I've got to use

[2:14:33] my phone. So, the basin or the retention

[2:14:38] um basin above lots 16 through 9 is 4T

[2:14:43] deep

[2:14:45] in total and 30 ft wide. Okay.

[2:14:48] >> And is it part of the lot so the

[2:14:51] homeowner takes control of it or is it a

[2:14:54] separate retention basis? No, it's part

[2:14:56] of the lot. So, you'll see um lots 17,

[2:15:00] 28, 24, 21, the middle section has um

[2:15:05] lot retention basins and then the

[2:15:08] northern lots will have their own

[2:15:09] retention basins as well. So, initially

[2:15:12] um lots 9 and 10 were combined and there

[2:15:15] was just one large retention basin

[2:15:17] approximately where lot 10 is,

[2:15:19] >> right? And so we've

[2:15:22] instead of having one giant deep hole,

[2:15:24] we've reduced how deep it is so it can

[2:15:27] still be utilized and placed it on the

[2:15:29] back of the lots.

[2:15:30] >> So let me ask you a question. I mean it

[2:15:32] doesn't look like what what are the

[2:15:34] required setbacks for these homes from

[2:15:38] the the front yard setbacks. What what

[2:15:40] for for this particular zoning?

[2:15:43] >> Will you pull to the side?

[2:15:45] >> Sorry, which one?

[2:15:45] >> Will you pan to the just to the side?

[2:15:49] Just

[2:15:50] >> Yep.

[2:15:51] >> You just X out of pages up there.

[2:15:54] >> Whoops.

[2:15:56] >> Love Adobe.

[2:16:00] » Guys, I swear I know how to work the

[2:16:02] computer.

[2:16:03] >> Okay. Yeah. So, they have the front yard

[2:16:06] setbacks at 25 ft. The 30foot triangle

[2:16:10] shall remain. And then, um, in the rear

[2:16:13] yard, we've actually extended the rear

[2:16:15] yard on those northern lots. um and the

[2:16:18] middle lots because we didn't want them

[2:16:22] what it ends up doing is putting them

[2:16:23] right on that 33 feet um

[2:16:27] >> setback line and so we actually had them

[2:16:29] come in an additional 5T and have shrunk

[2:16:31] that up um so that they can't build

[2:16:34] right on top of the

[2:16:36] >> bas

[2:16:38] >> or else we're going to have them sign a

[2:16:39] hold harmless

[2:16:41] >> correct

[2:16:42] >> agreement the entire NDA

[2:16:45] >> correct

[2:16:47] because I I just I'm struggling with the

[2:16:50] fact that

[2:16:51] >> we're going to have a 25 foot setback

[2:16:52] and I mean lot 16 says 46 feet

[2:16:58] 005. So 46 feet plus we have the the

[2:17:01] curve there. So I'm assuming it's 50 ft.

[2:17:04] So really the depth of the home is only

[2:17:05] going to be 20t deep.

[2:17:06] >> So it's actually 94 feet um in length

[2:17:11] in total length.

[2:17:12] >> In total length. Yes.

[2:17:14] >> Correct. But where's the home going to

[2:17:16] sit there? It's going to sit 25 ft back,

[2:17:19] right?

[2:17:19] >> Yep.

[2:17:20] >> And then the depth of the home can't be

[2:17:23] any further than the line of the

[2:17:25] retention basin. You said 5t

[2:17:27] >> to the side.

[2:17:28] >> So, how how deep is this house going to

[2:17:30] be on lot 16?

[2:17:32] >> It'll be They'll be skinnier homes, but

[2:17:34] they can only be a max of um 35 feet

[2:17:37] tall per our code.

[2:17:39] >> Yeah. Oh, that's

[2:17:42] so I think to answer your question,

[2:17:44] you're looking at a 95 foot deep lot.

[2:17:48] You subtract out 25 ft for the frontage,

[2:17:52] front setback, which is 70, and then 40

[2:17:54] for the back. So, that leaves you 30

[2:17:56] feet.

[2:17:56] >> Yeah. 34T

[2:17:58] >> depth for the home.

[2:18:00] So, if you want an affordable home, this

[2:18:02] may be the place

[2:18:04] because you're going to be constrained

[2:18:06] by the lot dimensions and the retention

[2:18:10] pond about how big of a home you can

[2:18:11] build,

[2:18:14] but you're also looking at

[2:18:17] is that 80 feet wide?

[2:18:20] >> Yes.

[2:18:21] >> So, that's about a 2,000 square

[2:18:23] footprint. It's just an odd

[2:18:25] configuration,

[2:18:27] right?

[2:18:28] >> It's long and narrow. long and narrow.

[2:18:31] >> Well, for 16, if you go to lot 14 or 15

[2:18:34] or the others, they're it's

[2:18:38] >> Yeah. So, you're only looking at like 60

[2:18:39] ft on those lots. So, it's 30 ft by 60,

[2:18:43] which is 1,800 square feet

[2:18:47] >> on per level. And then you've got a

[2:18:49] garage that you subtract out a garage

[2:18:51] and then but you can go down in a

[2:18:52] basement and up to a second floor, which

[2:18:55] would be a substantial sized home.

[2:18:58] Well, the other thing is um they're

[2:19:01] going to have to understand or we're

[2:19:04] going to be back to the previous

[2:19:05] discussion item is that nothing can be

[2:19:07] built in that retention basin. So,

[2:19:12] they're going to have very limited

[2:19:14] access to use their available acreage.

[2:19:18] >> Correct.

[2:19:19] for for 20 years. I had this in my

[2:19:21] backyard and we just had a

[2:19:24] >> we built a five four foot rock wall and

[2:19:26] then we grass the retention basin. So we

[2:19:30] had it there. So we had grass in our

[2:19:32] trampoline and we do a back flip off the

[2:19:36] rocks onto the onto the [laughter]

[2:19:40] >> when it's watery.

[2:19:42] >> But I maintained that. I mean I mowed

[2:19:44] that. I looked nice. It was [snorts]

[2:19:47] >> That's Chuck Williams.

[2:19:48] >> Yeah, it could be it can be known really

[2:19:50] nice. I I want to say though,

[2:19:52] >> um we have changed the ordinance to not

[2:19:55] allow for this kind of thing anymore.

[2:19:56] You have to have if you're going to have

[2:19:58] a detention pond, it can't be in

[2:20:00] people's backyards like this anymore. Or

[2:20:03] those little weird triangles in there

[2:20:04] and put a retention pond in there and

[2:20:06] you get a major water event. You're

[2:20:08] going to have

[2:20:08] >> it's a big swimming pool and where it

[2:20:10] crosses

[2:20:12] >> lot lines there. That's the real problem

[2:20:14] is

[2:20:15] >> right,

[2:20:15] >> you know, lot 15 may decide let's fill

[2:20:17] this sucker in and then lot 16 gets

[2:20:20] backed up and has the water has nowhere

[2:20:22] to go.

[2:20:23] >> So, uh that's problematic. And there's a whole host of problems

[2:20:27] associated with having these backyard

[2:20:29] retention ponds. Um, like many things

[2:20:31] associated with this plat, we're not

[2:20:34] doing them anymore. Um, but we're just

[2:20:37] trying to get through this the best we

[2:20:39] can. This feels like a good solution.

[2:20:41] >> And and and why we're saying this is

[2:20:43] because it's grandfathered in. Is that why

[2:20:46] >> it is? Yes.

[2:20:47] >> They had an application before the

[2:20:49] ordinances were changed.

[2:20:50] >> The the correct term the correct legal

[2:20:52] term is vested. They're vested under the

[2:20:54] previous ordinances.

[2:20:57] » There was a term grandfathered in.

[2:20:59] >> Yeah.

[2:21:00] >> Earlier public health.

[2:21:02] >> So just for Mr. Boyer's sake, planning

[2:21:06] and zoning recommended a a six foot

[2:21:09] white vinyl fence around this project.

[2:21:12] >> Correct.

[2:21:12] >> That white vinyl fence is going down the

[2:21:15] property line down right there down Mr.

[2:21:19] Boyer's property.

[2:21:20] >> Correct. So if you drag down Alicia

[2:21:24] >> other way

[2:21:25] >> that's up

[2:21:27] >> it'll come right along this property

[2:21:28] line so it will be on boyers it'll be on

[2:21:30] this property dripping right along that

[2:21:32] black line

[2:21:35] >> it is a requirement by state that the

[2:21:38] water gathered on this property stays on

[2:21:40] this property it cannot

[2:21:41] >> or or discharge into an approved

[2:21:43] drainage system

[2:21:44] >> correct cannot push to berser

[2:21:46] >> but there isn't any discharged approved

[2:21:48] drainage system anywhere near here

[2:21:51] >> or anywhere else in town really. There

[2:21:53] are some places I guess, but this this

[2:21:54] would definitely And so we do on-site

[2:21:57] retention. There's a difference between

[2:21:58] the retention and detention.

[2:22:00] >> And the detention is a pass through and

[2:22:02] the retention is hold it on site and let

[2:22:04] it go into the ground.

[2:22:06] >> And that's what this is. The water is

[2:22:08] not supposed to drain anywhere

[2:22:10] >> anywhere else. Now, it will, but what

[2:22:12] happens is it goes into the ground, it

[2:22:13] becomes ground water, and it resurfaces

[2:22:16] over at Shelby's house. [laughter]

[2:22:20] Hopefully it would resurface towards the

[2:22:21] Salt Lake more. So

[2:22:23] >> yeah. Well, [clears throat]

[2:22:24] I I use Shel's house because I'm just

[2:22:26] joking picking Shelby a little bit, but

[2:22:28] >> we drink it.

[2:22:29] >> Yeah, you do drink it.

[2:22:32] >> So

[2:22:32] >> later.

[2:22:33] >> Shelby, is our plan for Wild Rose to

[2:22:36] just go to a race street and stop or is

[2:22:39] that was that on the plan to go

[2:22:41] >> further? cuz I'm looking at homes here

[2:22:43] and it's got to do a lot of jotting

[2:22:45] around some stuff unless

[2:22:47] >> correct. So we would like to get it at

[2:22:50] minimum to race street but there is

[2:22:52] potential um to um connect it into North

[2:22:56] Street that would require um city

[2:22:59] purchasing you know land and homes but

[2:23:02] again that is the long future and it's

[2:23:05] not going to happen tomorrow.

[2:23:07] And then my other question that was

[2:23:09] brought up at planning commission 2 was

[2:23:11] they are asking for uh the open space

[2:23:14] third fee and loo waved.

[2:23:16] >> Yes.

[2:23:17] >> Um just so everyone that wasn't there

[2:23:20] how much was that and what's the

[2:23:22] reasoning? I know it was brought up

[2:23:23] planning commission but just kind of to

[2:23:25] let everybody know what what why they

[2:23:29] want that and why we think that we

[2:23:30] should approve that.

[2:23:31] >> Correct. So, um I don't have the

[2:23:34] appraisal amount cuz that's not that

[2:23:36] doesn't come now. Um I should have

[2:23:38] obtained that. But if I had to

[2:23:40] anticipate or guess um I would guess

[2:23:43] right around $5 to $8,000 um would be

[2:23:46] the fee in L that would be given to the

[2:23:48] city. The issue is is that needs to be

[2:23:50] used within one mile. And I mean there

[2:23:54] might be one park that it could be used

[2:23:56] towards. One property that is within a

[2:23:59] mile of that is right by Soulberg's

[2:24:03] if we were to ever use that for

[2:24:04] anything.

[2:24:05] >> What about the rodeo grounds?

[2:24:09] >> It's not considered a park.

[2:24:11] >> What about the

[2:24:12] >> I'm thinking of the pirate one. The

[2:24:14] >> Bevans

[2:24:16] park off No, it's probably too far away.

[2:24:18] >> The park

[2:24:19] >> is the Scott Beavenon Park too far. Uh,

[2:24:22] I think it will I think um Beavenons is

[2:24:24] >> that's the one I was thinking of

[2:24:26] >> is close.

[2:24:34] » So this agreement though says the

[2:24:36] product project shall contain no less

[2:24:39] than 20%

[2:24:41] open space. So where where have we

[2:24:44] amended that to remove the open space

[2:24:47] >> G1 in the development agreement?

[2:24:57] Let me go back.

[2:25:09] In the back of the development

[2:25:11] agreement, it does state

[2:25:14] uh the waiver of the open space.

[2:25:22] Yeah. On exhibit G, which is page 22.

[2:25:28] So, it talks about the fence. Um, and

[2:25:31] then number six is the waiver of the

[2:25:35] field.

[2:25:38] >> And just so we know that Scott Beaven

[2:25:40] Memorial Park is it's6 miles away from

[2:25:43] this property.

[2:25:44] >> Thank you. I was trying to measure on my

[2:25:46] phone.

[2:25:46] >> Yeah. change. Definitely things we can

[2:25:49] do there.

[2:25:49] >> There's a lot of things we could do

[2:25:50] there.

[2:25:52] >> I think we Well,

[2:25:54] >> yeah.

[2:25:56] [clears throat]

[2:25:59] » Is the developer here tonight?

[2:26:01] >> He was notified to say link.

[2:26:04] >> Who's the developer?

[2:26:05] >> Just curious.

[2:26:07] >> Who is it?

[2:26:15] The Andy.

[2:26:20] He's on.

[2:26:26] » Andy, can you hear us?

[2:26:51] So, we're waiting for that. So, um,

[2:26:54] citizen, uh, Mr. Wayne Boyer got up. He

[2:26:56] talked about the retention basin. I

[2:26:58] think we understand what that looks like

[2:26:59] and the depth of it. I think we

[2:27:01] understand that the privacy fence six

[2:27:04] feet along the property line um, going

[2:27:07] along there. I mean, he has a livestock

[2:27:09] was his concern. and how will it affect

[2:27:12] his livestock? Um, I think a thought of

[2:27:15] his is maybe the depth of the retention

[2:27:17] basin might harm his livestock, but if

[2:27:20] the fence is in place,

[2:27:22] um, then and I guess

[2:27:26] I mean constructibility and when's the

[2:27:28] timing of the fence and and the timing

[2:27:30] of the the digging of the depth of the

[2:27:32] retention basin and how that all happens

[2:27:35] to be able to protect potentially the the neighboring um, the neighboring

[2:27:42] property owner.

[2:27:43] and his livestock. I mean, I I don't

[2:27:46] know. Maybe we could give some direction

[2:27:48] there.

[2:27:49] >> Yeah. I don't know if the six foot vinyl

[2:27:51] fence is necessarily an appropriate

[2:27:55] um

[2:27:55] >> deterrent for cows. I just think

[2:27:59] [laughter]

[2:28:00] >> maybe they're going to be a little more

[2:28:02] destructive.

[2:28:03] >> Well,

[2:28:05] but

[2:28:06] >> so there's probably a bob wire fence

[2:28:09] property,

[2:28:10] >> right? So just put this home wanted to

[2:28:13] rip out the bob wire fence and replace

[2:28:16] it with a white vinyl or does the bob

[2:28:18] wire fence stay and the white vinyl go

[2:28:21] against the wall?

[2:28:22] >> It would depend on as long as it's on

[2:28:25] Mr. Boyer's property then the vinyl

[2:28:27] fence or then the our fence could stay

[2:28:30] >> which would be protect the white vinyl

[2:28:33] >> y' be a good thing.

[2:28:35] >> Correct. So, I mean, we could ask um the

[2:28:37] developer to um construct a new um barb

[2:28:42] wire fence along the northern portion

[2:28:46] um if needed and then place the vinyl

[2:28:49] fence.

[2:28:53] It's kind of a property owner to

[2:28:56] property owner conversation.

[2:29:04] » And one thing too I think property

[2:29:06] owners are getting concerned about, we

[2:29:08] discussed this last week in planning

[2:29:10] commission and we'll probably see it

[2:29:12] here shortly is people have their lives

[2:29:14] and license I think covered it too, but

[2:29:16] we but they're building these homes.

[2:29:18] People have had livestock in there

[2:29:20] forever. We have ordinances that say you

[2:29:22] can't have animals within 100 foot of an

[2:29:24] existing structure. How does the

[2:29:26] grandfather work? I know we all went

[2:29:27] over that so we kind of understand it,

[2:29:29] but people are concerned about that.

[2:29:31] They're questioning what are their

[2:29:32] rights with their animals when these

[2:29:34] type of develop developments start

[2:29:36] coming in.

[2:29:38] There's a old part of Logan that has a

[2:29:42] farm right in the center of town and

[2:29:43] he's got a sign up that says my cows

[2:29:45] smell and they make noises and I've been

[2:29:48] here since the beginning of time and I'm

[2:29:50] staying here. So I think I think that

[2:29:53] that's a valid question. Um

[2:29:56] they have the right to they've been

[2:29:58] there first. There's some

[2:30:01] reasoning behind that. So

[2:30:03] >> can you recap Tyson what you told them

[2:30:05] ores? So under [clears throat] our code

[2:30:08] got specifically excluded from our

[2:30:10] definition of a nuisance any uh

[2:30:13] agricultural production activities which

[2:30:15] would include maintaining and keeping

[2:30:17] livestock u animal husbandry that's of

[2:30:22] traditional sense so long as it's done

[2:30:23] in accordance with um the uh the

[2:30:27] acceptable practices um in in that

[2:30:29] industry. So if if they're you know if someone is maintaining a nuisance by

[2:30:35] keeping a mud hole full of manure that's

[2:30:37] you know a uh you know flies are

[2:30:40] everywhere and there's you know they're

[2:30:42] doing it outside the normal the normal

[2:30:45] uh um um practices of of that of that

[2:30:49] livestock industry then then that that

[2:30:51] could be a nuisance. But um the the the

[2:30:54] default setting for people that uh have livestock is that it is not a

[2:30:59] nuisance. And so if if someone someone

[2:31:01] were to move in and say, "Look, I'm, you

[2:31:03] know, from San Francisco and we don't

[2:31:05] have these smells and odors, well, um,

[2:31:08] too bad, right? It's this is Grantsville

[2:31:11] and we have those here."

[2:31:14] >> When you bought the lot, the smells were

[2:31:16] there.

[2:31:18] >> We do put a note on the plaid that um

[2:31:20] gives the prop the surrounding property

[2:31:22] owners the right to farm and keep the

[2:31:24] animals on there. So,

[2:31:33] Let's let's just address the other

[2:31:35] comment by uh uh

[2:31:38] >> Mr.

[2:31:39] >> Citizen. Yeah, Mr. Aert. Um

[2:31:43] I mean the the lot sizes are as such.

[2:31:47] RM7

[2:31:49] code does allow for height. I understand

[2:31:53] blocking views. Um no one likes that.

[2:31:58] Uh but

[2:32:01] the property owner does have rights as

[2:32:02] well, right? And I I I I understand that

[2:32:05] we're we're trying to balance that to a

[2:32:08] certain extent, but um we do still have

[2:32:11] our codes. They they can build up, they

[2:32:13] can build vertical, and obviously we've

[2:32:16] discussed the fact that the seven and a

[2:32:18] half feet on both sides, why we don't

[2:32:20] like it, we our hands are somewhat tied

[2:32:24] because they've already applied for it.

[2:32:26] Have we fixed that um within the last

[2:32:28] year? Yes, we have. Um but I I I just

[2:32:33] don't know if we can if we can

[2:32:36] require that of this this developer at

[2:32:39] this time. So,

[2:32:40] >> could we require it on lots one through

[2:32:42] five where there are existing

[2:32:45] residential

[2:32:47] >> neighbors?

[2:32:49] Require what? the seven and a half on

[2:32:53] one side and 15 on the other just to

[2:32:55] give that break in the

[2:32:57] >> the little wider stance.

[2:32:58] >> Yes,

[2:32:59] >> you could request it. I we could request

[2:33:02] it. I Yeah, I don't know.

[2:33:04] >> Those are wider lots anyway. So, it

[2:33:07] would make sense there in that

[2:33:09] particular place

[2:33:11] >> absent some [laughter] exception. It the

[2:33:14] investing occurs at the time of the

[2:33:15] application. So, if we were going to um

[2:33:18] make a change at at this point, it would

[2:33:21] have to be something that uh meets one

[2:33:23] of the exceptions, which is a like a

[2:33:25] prevailing uh um public health interest

[2:33:27] or um some something like that.

[2:33:31] >> Detrimental effect

[2:33:33] >> that Yes. Well, yeah, even more than a

[2:33:35] detrimental effect. It would have to be

[2:33:36] more like a a counterveailing public

[2:33:39] safety interest.

[2:33:40] Um there there there are reasons why why

[2:33:45] we could require it. Probably none of

[2:33:46] those exist here. It would have to be a favor that's asked.

[2:33:53] >> It can't hurt to ask though, right?

[2:33:56] >> Or we're being asked to wave too, which

[2:34:03] » we're being asked to wave as well.

[2:34:05] Correct. Is that

[2:34:06] >> I don't see why we're doing that.

[2:34:10] Yeah, I guess not necessarily a favor,

[2:34:11] but it would have to be a voluntary

[2:34:13] exchange for either kindness or

[2:34:15] consideration.

[2:34:16] >> Yep.

[2:34:21] » Would you like me to call Andy?

[2:34:28] » I mean, that's

[2:34:34] [clears throat]

[2:34:39] I think it sounds like the main concern

[2:34:40] is the fem I mean everything else is

[2:34:42] really we don't really have choice but

[2:34:45] the the vesting

[2:34:48] but I think we like most of us agree

[2:34:50] that the fee is probably not worth it

[2:35:00] see what benefit everyone else follows

[2:35:02] is that see what benefit we're getting

[2:35:05] from

[2:35:09] in this situation at all.

[2:35:21] » Shelby, this has been surveyed a bunch

[2:35:23] of times. You may not know the answer to

[2:35:25] this, but my experience spending my life

[2:35:28] on the north side of Grantsville as all

[2:35:32] the property lines are off but tend to

[2:35:36] 15 feet.

[2:35:38] Is this property line on?

[2:35:42] >> I'm not a surveyor, so I mean, I'm just

[2:35:45] going off of what the plat is showing

[2:35:46] and it's showing that they are. But

[2:35:50] >> I agree with Jeff, though. I know there

[2:35:52] have been historically some issues with

[2:35:55] property lines. And so when this is

[2:35:58] surveyed, if the property line does

[2:36:00] become a dispute, at what point was it

[2:36:04] grandfathered in that this was

[2:36:07] I I have no idea. I'm asking. I don't

[2:36:09] know what would happen when this these

[2:36:11] homes don't fit because the property

[2:36:13] lines are not correct.

[2:36:17] >> So you're goes back to the how long the

[2:36:19] fence has been there. Right.

[2:36:21] >> Right. So, I mean, there's there's

[2:36:22] several reasons why the property line

[2:36:24] could change. Um, and and some sometimes

[2:36:28] there's the the property line is what it

[2:36:30] is, but other times there's adverse

[2:36:32] possession that could occur where if

[2:36:34] someone were to um openly and

[2:36:37] notoriously take um some extra land and

[2:36:41] it's been held for a number of years.

[2:36:43] I'd have to refresh my um research on on

[2:36:46] the number of years, but if it's been

[2:36:48] held in such a manner and uh um then

[2:36:51] adverse possession could change that

[2:36:54] property line um that's not something

[2:36:56] that the city gets to decide has

[2:36:58] occurred. That's something that a court

[2:37:00] decides has occurred um if it gets to

[2:37:02] that point. But um these are basic legal

[2:37:05] principles that tend to have will um

[2:37:09] resolve cases before a court has to. Um

[2:37:13] so there would be some sort of

[2:37:14] stipulation at some point. I would guess

[2:37:16] by way of settlement, but either way it

[2:37:19] would likely halt much of the um the

[2:37:23] ability to to to develop while that um

[2:37:26] while that's being resolved.

[2:37:28] At

[2:37:28] >> least those laws that back then.

[2:37:31] >> Yeah.

[2:37:34] As far as we know, this goes to the

[2:37:37] existing fence.

[2:37:39] >> Yes.

[2:37:45] » I believe if um Alicia scrolls up, it'll

[2:37:48] state existing fence.

[2:37:54] No, it just says it on the site plan

[2:37:56] where the existing fence is, but on the

[2:37:59] bottom you or at the top you can see by

[2:38:01] 10 it says found bar and cap

[2:38:04] and then by one it says found bar and

[2:38:07] cap. So I mean they're going off of

[2:38:08] existing survey markers.

[2:38:11] >> Okay, perfect. Thank you.

[2:38:17] I'm not a big fan of lot five,

[2:38:21] but I mean I I don't know as a homeowner

[2:38:25] how much value that additional I don't

[2:38:29] know

[2:38:31] 120 ft of space is

[2:38:34] by 25 foot deep, 26 feet deep.

[2:38:38] >> It's not our favorite either. It's just

[2:38:40] an awkward

[2:38:41] >> I understand. I just

[2:38:48] If these were town homes, we could

[2:38:52] ask them to potentially put like a

[2:38:55] parking

[2:38:56] lot there or something. We've done that

[2:38:58] in the past,

[2:39:02] but then the land law five wouldn't meet

[2:39:04] the the minimum requirements. It'd be

[2:39:06] way less than 7,000 square feet, I

[2:39:08] imagine.

[2:39:15] It's meeting the minimum requirements,

[2:39:17] but the buildability of it is question.

[2:39:52] There's no other concerns, questions,

[2:39:56] comments. We need a motion.

[2:40:10] If we don't agree with FEM then we can

[2:40:12] we just have to deny the resolution

[2:40:14] right we don't that's how it's written

[2:40:16] am I correct

[2:40:17] >> you know you can make a recommendation

[2:40:19] to remove the waiver of the fianl

[2:40:22] >> we can so we can do it without I mean

[2:40:23] because that that's my big concern I

[2:40:25] feel like we can do it that way then I'm Okay.

[2:40:38] » So, mayor, I make a motion that we

[2:40:40] approve resolution 202655 approving the

[2:40:43] Falcons landing master development

[2:40:44] agreement for the property located

[2:40:45] approximately at Blue Street and Wild

[2:40:47] Rose with the recommendation that the

[2:40:49] fee and Lou is removed.

[2:40:54] » We have a motion by council member

[2:40:55] Skinner. Is there a second?

[2:41:04] I'd still like to make the request that

[2:41:07] one side of each one of lot one, two,

[2:41:09] three, and four

[2:41:12] be 15 ft on one side of the line.

[2:41:16] >> I agree.

[2:41:20] How do we I'm not sure how we could

[2:41:22] >> I think it's something we could ask and

[2:41:24] address in the DRC reviews, but from

[2:41:27] what Tyson was stating, it's not

[2:41:28] something we can require.

[2:41:30] >> It's a request, not Yeah.

[2:41:33] >> to it. So, I guess we did not approve it

[2:41:34] today.

[2:41:37] » I don't know.

[2:41:38] >> I

[2:41:41] [clears throat]

[2:41:42] wider laws.

[2:41:43] >> We have to do something with it.

[2:41:45] [laughter]

[2:41:45] >> What's that?

[2:41:45] >> So, we have to do something with it. We

[2:41:47] got

[2:41:48] We could table it and have to we table

[2:41:51] it and somebody could go ask them like,

[2:41:52] "Hey,

[2:41:54] will you stipulate to

[2:41:57] >> Yeah, I mean he texted me and he says he

[2:42:00] just he's speaking but it's not coming

[2:42:02] through.

[2:42:05] >> He's unmuted

[2:42:07] on our end. So I don't know.

[2:42:11] >> Can he call in? Can we like disconnect

[2:42:14] and reconnect back in?

[2:42:15] >> I told him to call me. There he is.

[2:42:17] Yeah, waving the fee and lose a no from

[2:42:19] me. So, be a rejection in that

[2:42:21] situation.

[2:42:23] >> So,

[2:42:23] >> I'm getting feedback when Jake talks.

[2:42:26] Can you just kick him off the meeting?

[2:42:28] >> Kick Andy off.

[2:42:30] >> Andy, can you get off the meeting and

[2:42:32] then I can just put you on speaker

[2:42:33] phone?

[2:42:37] » Okay.

[2:42:39] >> I don't know why I can't hear me on the

[2:42:40] computer, but you can hear my phone.

[2:42:41] That's weird.

[2:42:42] >> Yeah. Okay. So, I have you on speaker

[2:42:45] phone at city council and they are

[2:42:47] requesting [snorts]

[2:42:48] I'm not sure if you heard but on lots

[2:42:50] one through four or five.

[2:42:53] >> Well, four

[2:42:55] doesn't make a whole lot of sense

[2:42:57] because it's so narrow anyways, right?

[2:42:59] >> Yeah. Okay. So, lots one through four to

[2:43:02] have 7 and 1/2 ft on the sideyard on one

[2:43:04] side and 15 feet on the sideyard on the

[2:43:07] opposite side.

[2:43:09] >> Yeah. As long as it matts out. We did

[2:43:11] that on the after we spoke with you last

[2:43:13] time on the properties on the north side

[2:43:16] already to split it up more evenly. And

[2:43:18] the fact that lot one has that I was

[2:43:20] looking at it as they were saying that

[2:43:21] the fact that lot one has that 10,000

[2:43:24] square foot size so we can shrink into

[2:43:27] that one to pull the other ones over. I

[2:43:28] think we can absolutely do that.

[2:43:30] >> Okay.

[2:43:33] >> Could we make it from lot one to five

[2:43:35] and make lot five a little bit wider? I

[2:43:37] mean, I think now that he's saying that

[2:43:39] and he's saying he's going to move those

[2:43:41] lot lines and shift them over, I think

[2:43:43] he's got enough room to be able to do it

[2:43:47] at least [cough and laughter]

[2:43:49] ft, which would give a 22 and a half

[2:43:52] foot width between homes one through

[2:43:57] five on one side.

[2:44:00] >> Yeah.

[2:44:01] >> Right.

[2:44:03] >> Does that make sense? Mhm.

[2:44:06] I

[2:44:06] >> think that makes it more in line with

[2:44:08] our code. It it it helps the neighbors

[2:44:13] um so that the homes aren't so crammed

[2:44:15] together and I think it's a I think it's

[2:44:19] a reasonable ask.

[2:44:23] » Sure. I think that's fair. That's

[2:44:25] reasonable.

[2:44:28] >> Put it in the MDA.

[2:44:29] >> So, can Britney just add that then to

[2:44:31] her motion? Maybe.

[2:44:33] >> Just amend it. Okay. Thank you.

[2:44:37] >> Bye.

[2:44:38] >> I don't know all the numbers, so maybe

[2:44:39] somebody else should because I don't

[2:44:40] know what we just

[2:44:41] >> No, but just amend amend your your

[2:44:44] motion that lots one through five um

[2:44:47] that one side of each one of those lots

[2:44:50] has a 15 foot

[2:44:52] >> setback sideyard setback.

[2:44:55] >> Making the the total sideyard from from

[2:44:58] easement to easement 22 and 1/2 ft in

[2:45:01] between structures.

[2:45:04] which is as per our code currently.

[2:45:07] >> Yeah.

[2:45:08] >> Right. Tyson,

[2:45:09] >> you can handle that, can't you?

[2:45:11] >> You just say I amend my motion to meet

[2:45:14] what Rhett just said.

[2:45:15] >> Yeah. Yeah. I'll just amend my motion to

[2:45:17] also include what Rhett just said as far

[2:45:19] as the setbacks.

[2:45:20] >> Okay. We have an amended motion.

[2:45:21] >> So, the two parts of the motion are

[2:45:23] >> two parts. Yes. So, we have

[2:45:24] recommendations that there's no fee in L

[2:45:26] that it's a regular impact fee and that

[2:45:28] the setbacks are as described by

[2:45:30] >> So, to clarify, the fee in L is not an

[2:45:32] impact fee. He'll already pay the impact

[2:45:34] fee. It is a separate

[2:45:36] >> but we rejected. We're recommending No,

[2:45:38] we don't approve the fee in the

[2:45:39] >> We're not We're not We're not waving.

[2:45:42] >> Okay. We're not waving. [clears throat]

[2:45:43] >> Yes.

[2:45:45] >> Alicia, do you have that?

[2:45:47] >> Did you get it?

[2:45:47] >> I will definitely need to listen to the

[2:45:49] recording for sure.

[2:45:51] >> So, we have an amended motion by Council

[2:45:54] Member Skinner. Is there a second?

[2:45:56] >> I'll second.

[2:45:56] >> A second by Council Member Dalton. All

[2:45:58] in favor? I

[2:46:01] >> Okay.

[2:46:07] Item number 14, consideration of

[2:46:09] resolution 2026-54

[2:46:11] awarding the contract for the Apple

[2:46:13] Street waterline replacement project to

[2:46:15] Forge Industrial.

[2:46:18] >> Uh, this was a CBDG grant. We do have to

[2:46:22] go with the lowest bidder. The lowest

[2:46:23] bidder was Forge at 273 $273,85310.

[2:46:33] Um, and we need uh council approval and

[2:46:37] then we'll go forward with

[2:46:39] preconstruction

[2:46:41] contracts

[2:46:43] >> because this was that type of grant, a

[2:46:46] CDBG grant.

[2:46:47] >> Um, there was no pre-qualification

[2:46:50] process for this project. Right.

[2:46:51] Correct. just open to any bidder.

[2:46:53] >> Correct.

[2:46:54] >> So, have we ever had this um particular

[2:46:58] company, Forge Industrial, do any work

[2:46:59] for us?

[2:47:00] >> No. Nope. But they had to be vetted by

[2:47:03] the CBDG grant committee as well.

[2:47:06] >> And they have done a similar project in

[2:47:08] Ogden.

[2:47:11] >> And Ogden was happy with the work that

[2:47:13] was done or you don't know?

[2:47:14] >> I don't know.

[2:47:15] >> But they've done a similar project.

[2:47:16] >> Yes. So they will have to deal with the

[2:47:19] bacon Davis wages in the cabin.

[2:47:22] >> Yeah.

[2:47:30] » Obviously this project needs to be done.

[2:47:32] >> Yes.

[2:47:34] >> With more coming. So

[2:47:36] >> short. [clears throat]

[2:47:39] » Is there an estimated timeline as to

[2:47:41] when they would be able to begin the

[2:47:43] project? as soon as we can get a

[2:47:44] contract in place and they can get the

[2:47:46] bond to us. Will they? Yep.

[2:47:48] >> So, will they hope to start this?

[2:47:50] >> They wanted to start before you

[2:47:51] approved. They're ready to start.

[2:47:53] >> Okay.

[2:47:53] >> But we won't let them start until we can

[2:47:56] get everything in line.

[2:47:57] >> So, they will have to provide a

[2:47:59] performance and payment bond.

[2:48:02] >> What parts of Apple Street is this for?

[2:48:04] >> Only between Hell and Park Street.

[2:48:11] Okay. Any

[2:48:16] other questions?

[2:48:18] >> Has something.

[2:48:19] >> Yeah,

[2:48:20] I'm worried about school.

[2:48:22] >> Yeah, but so are they. And we are asking

[2:48:24] them to start in the intersection.

[2:48:26] So, they're aware

[2:48:28] >> because that's a hot streak to go pick

[2:48:30] up your kids. Now, my kids don't go to

[2:48:31] that school anymore. They're [laughter]

[2:48:32] graduating junior high. So, I'm just

[2:48:35] teasing there.

[2:48:36] >> But that's where we pick up the girls,

[2:48:39] too. for the last 150 years.

[2:48:42] >> Yeah.

[2:48:45] >> Now you're showing your age. [laughter]

[2:48:48] >> I don't know why the water line's going

[2:48:50] bad, huh?

[2:48:50] >> That's right.

[2:48:52] >> Can we make it historic?

[2:48:54] >> Yeah. [laughter]

[2:48:55] >> No, this

[2:48:56] >> Before the fire, we could have, but

[2:48:58] >> this is part of the end. Sorry.

[2:49:00] [laughter]

[2:49:01] All right. Mayor, I make a motion we

[2:49:03] approve resolution 2026-54

[2:49:06] awarding the contract for the Apple

[2:49:08] Street waterline replacement to Forge

[2:49:10] Industrial.

[2:49:12] >> We have a motion by Council Member

[2:49:13] Butler. Is there a second?

[2:49:15] >> Second.

[2:49:16] >> Nope. Go ahead.

[2:49:16] >> Second by Council Member Skinner. All in

[2:49:18] favor?

[2:49:19] >> I. So Christie, just tell me where are

[2:49:22] they going to start the project to avoid

[2:49:24] as much

[2:49:26] >> Well, they will start at the

[2:49:27] intersection because we are going

[2:49:28] through the intersection at Park and

[2:49:31] Apple Street.

[2:49:32] >> Okay.

[2:49:33] >> Oh boy.

[2:49:33] >> So through the crosswalk.

[2:49:34] >> Mhm.

[2:49:36] >> To the south side of the school.

[2:49:38] >> Okay.

[2:49:39] >> And they're not going to be started

[2:49:40] before school is in a month. They're not

[2:49:44] going to be underway likely.

[2:49:46] >> They might be able to get through that

[2:49:48] intersection. Maybe [laughter]

[2:49:51] >> we will do our best to get them out here

[2:49:53] as fast as we can. Huh, Tyson?

[2:49:55] >> Okay.

[2:49:57] [laughter]

[2:49:57] >> All right. Thank you. [clears throat]

[2:50:00] >> Priority on the contract.

[2:50:03] >> Agenda item number 15, consideration of

[2:50:06] ordinance 2026-26

[2:50:08] approving amendments to chapter 7-3 of

[2:50:11] the Grantsville City Code regarding

[2:50:12] definitions and regulations for cross

[2:50:15] connections and dual source connections.

[2:50:17] So this wording was changed under the

[2:50:20] recommendation of the state to go from

[2:50:22] we used to say the code used to say

[2:50:25] swing joint and they want to change that

[2:50:27] to dual soy d sorry slate dual source.

[2:50:32] That was the main change in any of the

[2:50:35] other little language they asked us to

[2:50:37] change to be adopted into our code.

[2:50:49] And this mainly is I mean obviously a

[2:50:54] definition but the deeper part of this

[2:50:57] is really someone improperly connecting

[2:51:01] if I remember right city water to

[2:51:04] secondary water. So anytime what we have

[2:51:06] a situations is people have their

[2:51:08] irrigation system and they want to use

[2:51:10] both culinary water and irrigation so

[2:51:12] that when irrigation turns off or

[2:51:14] they've run out of gallons they can go

[2:51:16] and use their culinary. So what you have

[2:51:18] to have is what we say a dual source

[2:51:21] connection which means you have a

[2:51:24] physical disconnect. They can never be

[2:51:26] connected at the same time. So you have

[2:51:28] to disconnect from one, connect to the

[2:51:31] other, and then you do have to have an

[2:51:33] RP backflow pre

[2:51:35] >> or an air check.

[2:51:37] >> No, not just an air check. Has to be a

[2:51:40] backflow pre. And since irrigation is

[2:51:43] considered a hazard, it has to be

[2:51:46] because of that potential. It has to be

[2:51:48] a RP cannot be just the other ABV. AB

[2:51:52] >> I say need for this because we do have

[2:51:54] both and correct

[2:51:56] >> and you know going through that.

[2:51:58] >> We we have stopped one this year in fact

[2:52:00] where we turned irrigation turned their

[2:52:03] water off until they could show that

[2:52:06] they had RP.

[2:52:07] >> I had one on my

[2:52:08] >> they installed an RP

[2:52:10] >> here in Gransville. I had one on my

[2:52:11] first

[2:52:11] >> and then found out they don't have

[2:52:12] irrigation

[2:52:14] >> and never used the connection. I never

[2:52:16] [laughter] I had manual Yeah. disconnect

[2:52:19] on the irrigation on the city side. I

[2:52:22] had the

[2:52:24] >> air check is what was required then when

[2:52:27] I when I house was built

[2:52:30] >> 20 almost 20 years ago.

[2:52:33] >> So

[2:52:35] >> okay,

[2:52:37] >> but this is just housekeeping.

[2:52:39] >> Correct.

[2:52:39] >> Yeah. So, I make a motion we approve

[2:52:41] ordinance 2026-26

[2:52:44] approving the amendment to chapter 7-3

[2:52:47] of the Gransville City Code regarding

[2:52:49] definitions and regulations for cross

[2:52:50] connections and dual source connections.

[2:52:54] >> We have a motion by council member

[2:52:55] Butler. Is there a second?

[2:52:57] >> I second.

[2:52:58] >> Second by council member Thomas. All in

[2:53:00] favor?

[2:53:01] >> I.

[2:53:02] >> Thank you.

[2:53:07] » Okay. Okay. Agenda item number 16,

[2:53:09] council reports. Let's start with rep.

[2:53:12] We've gone over a lot of yours with the

[2:53:15] district.

[2:53:15] >> Well, I I mean, I think Ala took care

[2:53:18] of, you know, really what we've been

[2:53:20] working on as a historic preservation

[2:53:23] commission and you know, appreciate her basic report and I think we're

[2:53:29] excited to create a potentially create a

[2:53:32] historic district.

[2:53:34] Congrats.

[2:53:36] We talked a lot about just that that

[2:53:37] area and I think it's important for us

[2:53:39] to to designate that that'll help some

[2:53:41] of those homeowners down the road

[2:53:43] >> to be able to do some of the restoration

[2:53:46] projects that they they'd like they'd

[2:53:48] like to do.

[2:53:50] >> It has hindered us not especially with

[2:53:53] the grants first award.

[2:53:56] >> Yeah.

[2:53:57] >> They haven't been able to get those

[2:53:58] grants because it's not designated as

[2:54:00] historic preservation

[2:54:02] >> district. So that home is now included

[2:54:06] in that potential area.

[2:54:09] >> Okay.

[2:54:11] >> All right. Great. Jake,

[2:54:15] um, [clears throat]

[2:54:18] uh, Veterans Park, I'll hit on that

[2:54:20] really quick. The first first phase of

[2:54:21] that is complete has been completed. Um,

[2:54:25] and so you can walk that and see kind of

[2:54:28] what that entailed. Um,

[2:54:31] know a lot of people have had eyes on

[2:54:32] it. uh the

[2:54:35] uh meeting that we had yesterday uh

[2:54:39] regarding that. Um they've got the new

[2:54:42] they have a the bronze monument that

[2:54:45] will go there. They have the first um

[2:54:50] miniaturaturized I don't know the right

[2:54:51] word small sample of that. gonna make a

[2:54:54] limited amount of those. And so, um,

[2:54:59] anyway, um, it sounds like they're gonna

[2:55:01] bring that to the city and have it here

[2:55:03] at the city hall so people can see.

[2:55:05] >> Do you know how much they were able to

[2:55:09] raise on the 4th of July for the

[2:55:10] Veterans Park?

[2:55:12] >> Um, we went through some of the

[2:55:14] finances. Um, they had the the cornhole

[2:55:19] portion. Um, and I know I want to say

[2:55:22] several thousand that was what was

[2:55:25] covered on that specifically. Um,

[2:55:28] they've had

[2:55:29] >> raffle and yeah

[2:55:30] >> raffle and they've had they had a larger

[2:55:32] donation. Um, and so I know their um,

[2:55:38] treasurer was going to meet and

[2:55:40] specifically go through all of that with our group um, and see kind of where

[2:55:46] we where we sit, where we landed as far

[2:55:48] as the financing of the first phase and

[2:55:50] how that landed within budget.

[2:55:53] >> This probably is a question you can't

[2:55:54] answer, but

[2:55:57] what is needed for phase two?

[2:55:59] >> So, I think the next portion or or I

[2:56:01] think the next push

[2:56:05] um is to get is to get to grass. So um

[2:56:11] get the irrigation system in top soil.

[2:56:15] There was a request for you know as the

[2:56:17] city would be willing to to some of that

[2:56:21] top soil that was peeled out and and

[2:56:24] been separated for the other park to see

[2:56:26] if they could utilize some of that

[2:56:28] >> and just get it to grass this year. If

[2:56:30] they could do that then I think gets us

[2:56:33] a great surface that's irrigated and um

[2:56:37] then then they can go into you know

[2:56:40] landscaping and

[2:56:43] uh flagples and the more probably the

[2:56:46] more expensive portion which is the

[2:56:48] statue. Um we we got some pre the

[2:56:52] preliminary costs on that and

[2:56:54] um he's maintained that he will keep

[2:56:58] that cost but the statue itself is going

[2:57:00] to be

[2:57:02] $200,000. So um so that cost and then

[2:57:07] the granite costs for the walls is where

[2:57:10] but they are seeing a lot a lot of

[2:57:12] momentum which is good as far as the

[2:57:14] bricks and people purchasing the bricks

[2:57:16] and then getting donations. Um, I think

[2:57:19] it's good. Um, they were very

[2:57:21] appreciative of the city. Um, and and

[2:57:26] made some comments regarding and I'll

[2:57:28] let I'll let them bring those comments

[2:57:31] to the to the council and to the city.

[2:57:34] Um, I don't want to spoil any thunder

[2:57:36] there, but they've they've been very

[2:57:38] appreciative in that setting um with

[2:57:41] what the city has done to to get us to

[2:57:43] this point. And I think it's creating

[2:57:45] some momentum that's it's helping push

[2:57:49] it push it further along.

[2:57:50] >> There's a pile of soil, whatever we want

[2:57:53] to classify that as sitting in the

[2:57:55] middle of it. Is is there It was my

[2:57:58] understanding that maybe somebody had

[2:58:00] volunteered to come in and do the earth

[2:58:02] work there to flatten that out. Do you

[2:58:04] know anything?

[2:58:05] >> Yeah. So I think the next phase would be

[2:58:06] getting the irrigation in.

[2:58:08] >> Okay. And so um

[2:58:12] yeah, so that would be the second phase

[2:58:14] because in the first phase we didn't

[2:58:16] have funding for that. So based on some

[2:58:19] questions that I don't know as far as if

[2:58:21] there were any change orders or how that

[2:58:23] a lot allotted with the actual contract

[2:58:25] price. Um I have walked it. It's and I

[2:58:28] know Barry's been um very connected with

[2:58:32] that and

[2:58:34] um

[2:58:37] and communicating that back to the

[2:58:39] committee and I know that's been very

[2:58:40] appreciated at least that was uh

[2:58:43] mentioned. So, so yeah, getting to that

[2:58:46] next part, which I think is just getting

[2:58:49] the ground level and getting it in a

[2:58:52] situation where we we could have a flag

[2:58:54] raising ceremony there, even if we

[2:58:56] didn't have some of those other

[2:58:57] components, and then and then focusing

[2:58:59] on what the next phase would be. So,

[2:59:01] which would be the last phase, which

[2:59:05] would be the most expensive portion. So,

[2:59:07] yeah. Anyway,

[2:59:09] um we we did have a meeting with the

[2:59:13] school district uh regarding resolution

[2:59:16] on the um

[2:59:20] park and and getting aou in place with

[2:59:24] the school district. Desire is to get an

[2:59:28] short-term agreement in place with the

[2:59:30] possibility of understanding what

[2:59:32] long-term

[2:59:34] solution we can have in place for that.

[2:59:36] There'll be more to come on that. Um,

[2:59:39] and I'm happy to to share what what's

[2:59:44] been discussed there, but um, the desire

[2:59:46] is to work together to find a solution

[2:59:48] that works for the kids and that works

[2:59:50] better for the the city. Um, and then

[2:59:54] looking for whatever the long-term

[2:59:56] solution is going to be there. So,

[2:59:59] um I don't know if there's any more I

[3:00:02] need to report on that there

[3:00:04] specifically, but that's that's ongoing.

[3:00:07] And

[3:00:10] I think that's it for the items I had.

[3:00:13] >> Okay. Thank you,

[3:00:15] Derek.

[3:00:16] >> Um I had a few things, but I left my

[3:00:18] notebook at home and I know we have a

[3:00:20] close session after this, so I'll just

[3:00:22] wait for next week. But I do want to say

[3:00:24] like um the city did amazing job for the

[3:00:27] 4th of July. Um public works did awesome

[3:00:30] and Colton was that who came and picked

[3:00:32] up our tent every night. Um was awesome.

[3:00:35] So I want to thank I think Christiey's

[3:00:36] gone but thank them and Colton. And one

[3:00:39] suggestion that I had that might help

[3:00:41] with the memorial park and I, you know,

[3:00:44] told a couple of you guys when I was

[3:00:45] cooking a hot dog next year or whatever,

[3:00:47] but is I had a lot of people ask how

[3:00:49] much they were or can we give a donation

[3:00:51] or do something because they didn't want

[3:00:53] to just take a free hot dog and I

[3:00:54] thought maybe we pick a cause or pick a something and we can have a donation

[3:01:02] that, you know, maybe they do. I don't

[3:01:03] know what the legality is on all that,

[3:01:05] but a lot of people were willing to help

[3:01:07] and wanted to do something for the

[3:01:08] community. So, just an idea we might

[3:01:10] think about for for next next Fourth of

[3:01:13] July.

[3:01:14] >> Just make that an option for people to

[3:01:17] leave something if they wanted to.

[3:01:20] >> All right. Thanks.

[3:01:21] >> I don't have an update. We only have the

[3:01:23] board of health every other month. So,

[3:01:24] our meetings at the end of this month.

[3:01:25] So, I will let you know when it's time.

[3:01:29] Um, I don't. And we have another

[3:01:31] mosquito bait meeting last night.

[3:01:35] I've got all the stats of what they've

[3:01:37] done. I mean, it's dry. We don't even talk about

[3:01:41] mosquitoes.

[3:01:42] >> I haven't had a single mosquito bites

[3:01:44] all year.

[3:01:44] >> Crazy.

[3:01:45] >> Yeah. When I bring it up, they trap

[3:01:47] 2,000 mosquitoes down by the sewer plant

[3:01:52] just this month. And they do all kinds

[3:01:54] of tests on them. It's just crazy. 87

[3:01:57] West Nile cases and none in Tua County.

[3:02:00] So that's good.

[3:02:02] >> That is that is a good thing.

[3:02:04] >> It's been kind of like sparse this year.

[3:02:07] >> Good,

[3:02:07] >> but it hasn't been wet either, right?

[3:02:10] >> So I think it's makes it a lot easier

[3:02:12] when there's less water, right? So

[3:02:14] that's going fine. Irrigation meeting,

[3:02:16] they cancelled their meeting at the

[3:02:17] first month, but we did have a meeting

[3:02:19] with it that I missed. Sorry I missed

[3:02:22] that on Monday. Um, so I don't have any

[3:02:26] to report there.

[3:02:28] >> All right. Thank you.

[3:02:29] >> Can I just make one other comment just

[3:02:30] about the Fourth of July?

[3:02:32] >> Um, and it's I mean an article that I

[3:02:34] read just about Salt Lake City and Salt

[3:02:37] Lake County and I'll just parlay it to our town. Um, I was really impressed

[3:02:43] with our citizens and their adherence to

[3:02:49] um our request to not let off fireworks.

[3:02:51] I mean, it was absolutely amazing.

[3:02:54] I mean,

[3:02:55] >> I was extremely impressed with that as

[3:02:57] well. Yeah.

[3:02:59] >> And I'm I'm pretty proud of of of our

[3:03:02] citizens for, you know, adhering to

[3:03:04] that. So,

[3:03:05] >> did did you have any calls or

[3:03:08] >> dozen about a dozen

[3:03:10] >> which is very

[3:03:12] >> But did you have did you write any

[3:03:15] citations?

[3:03:16] >> Not that I don't think so.

[3:03:18] >> Yes.

[3:03:19] >> Yeah. It was impressive. So, too,

[3:03:22] >> nobody wanted to have to take that away,

[3:03:24] but it was the right thing for this

[3:03:26] year. And appreciate

[3:03:29] >> people. We had a dozen. Salt Lake City

[3:03:30] only had one call. I read an article

[3:03:32] >> really the Salt Lake City Police

[3:03:34] Department. They had one one call and I I might have heard a few light off

[3:03:39] just right after ours, but it was

[3:03:42] minimal compared to what it is normally

[3:03:45] during a a year. So, yep.

[3:03:49] >> I remembered one other thing. I'm sorry.

[3:03:51] At some point, we need to circle back to

[3:03:53] the Clark Farm and property. our

[3:03:56] property behind the Clark Farm is to

[3:03:59] um we still have the

[3:04:04] um

[3:04:06] 4HFA kids wanting to build some type of

[3:04:09] agriculture facility there

[3:04:12] and really are wanting some type of

[3:04:15] direction from us if that's a go or no

[3:04:17] go or a possibility. I realize we're

[3:04:20] kind of missing the pretty picture

[3:04:22] phase,

[3:04:23] but I mean, I don't even know at this

[3:04:26] point we're pretty distorted. Are we

[3:04:27] just keeping that the views open? And

[3:04:31] >> I I talked with them this week.

[3:04:33] >> Okay.

[3:04:34] >> And and I said, "What I would really

[3:04:37] like from from you is draw me a picture

[3:04:40] of what this is. This is the FFA group."

[3:04:44] That's correct.

[3:04:45] >> Kind of put me together a little map of

[3:04:47] what you see. And then I feel like the

[3:04:49] Clark Farm should do the same thing. And

[3:04:51] they both may need to give just a little

[3:04:53] bit in order to be, you know, make both

[3:04:55] entities have a successful

[3:04:58] >> something

[3:04:58] >> vision of what that area could look

[3:05:01] like. But that's what I'm waiting for.

[3:05:03] >> Yeah. I I just feel that too. We need

[3:05:06] some type of pres presentation of a the

[3:05:09] pretty picture. What could be or what I

[3:05:12] mean? I think it could all work, but

[3:05:15] we're just spinning.

[3:05:16] >> I think that they are both um

[3:05:19] if I'm understanding this right, they

[3:05:21] both have ideas and they're not

[3:05:23] necessarily communicating them to each

[3:05:25] other or worrying too much about the

[3:05:27] little details. Whereas if they would

[3:05:30] both just get us a and the city at some

[3:05:33] point just has to make a decision and

[3:05:35] say this is what we're doing and this is

[3:05:39] where we want to move forward and these

[3:05:41] are the options that you will have to to

[3:05:43] do. So I'm waiting for them to bring

[3:05:46] those back to me. So hopefully they do

[3:05:48] that sooner than later. I know on

[3:05:50] Wednesdays now they have the um

[3:05:54] farmers market and and the people have

[3:05:57] been encouraged. I that area kind of is

[3:06:01] starting to get that you know it's has

[3:06:03] that natural feel from what what it is

[3:06:06] but also like I thought that was a great

[3:06:08] that would be a great addition to what

[3:06:10] happens at that you know having farmers

[3:06:13] market over there every Wednesday. I

[3:06:14] know we've been encouraged to go check

[3:06:15] it out. It's gaining a little bit of

[3:06:18] momentum from what I hear. Um,

[3:06:21] >> obviously it was hard year for farmers.

[3:06:23] >> Yeah.

[3:06:24] >> For all the right, you know, reasons,

[3:06:26] especially growers and the freezes that

[3:06:29] we had that killed peaches and every

[3:06:31] cherries and everything else. So, but

[3:06:34] um, encourage people to go to to go to

[3:06:36] that. Um, I think that's an extension of

[3:06:38] what's happening down there. And

[3:06:41] >> I mean, we've got

[3:06:42] >> incorporate into that

[3:06:43] >> we've got to

[3:06:44] >> what it is

[3:06:44] >> protect the city and be able to expand

[3:06:46] the cemetery if we ever need to.

[3:06:49] >> I mean, I love the area to walk through.

[3:06:52] I mean, this is my area, but I think it

[3:06:55] all could be done. I just don't know how

[3:06:58] to get it all done. So,

[3:07:00] >> right. We need a vision. We need a plan

[3:07:03] and a vision.

[3:07:04] >> Yeah.

[3:07:07] >> So, yeah. Thanks, Jeff, for bringing

[3:07:09] that up. Um, again, thank you to

[3:07:12] everybody for the Fourth of July.

[3:07:14] Police, fire, public works, all city

[3:07:16] staff, city council. I hope you've all

[3:07:20] recovered and have not had a single hot

[3:07:21] dog since.

[3:07:22] >> It was fun. It was my first time. It was

[3:07:24] fun. And you did. Heidi did amazing

[3:07:26] work. The mayor was at every place I

[3:07:27] was, she was. And I wasn't even that

[3:07:29] many places. So, and I saw her doing the

[3:07:31] >> It was a long flag.

[3:07:33] >> Yes. [laughter]

[3:07:34] But, but it was great. And I've had so

[3:07:37] many positive comments come back to the

[3:07:40] city

[3:07:42] thankful for all the efforts that go

[3:07:44] into the 4th of July and they people do

[3:07:46] notice it and they appreciate it. So

[3:07:48] thank you to all of to everybody in this

[3:07:50] room for making that successful. Um the

[3:07:53] girls summit reminding you of that on

[3:07:55] August 3rd. Um so keep that in your

[3:07:59] thoughts about attending.

[3:08:01] >> Will we have more than three at that? Do

[3:08:03] we need to notice for that?

[3:08:05] >> Okay.

[3:08:06] And I think the RCP deadline's tomorrow.

[3:08:09] >> I've told them

[3:08:10] >> the 16th. At least that's what they

[3:08:11] said.

[3:08:11] >> Jeff, you said you were unable to come.

[3:08:14] >> Yeah, everybody else is still planning

[3:08:15] to attend.

[3:08:16] >> Okay.

[3:08:17] So, that's what I that's the

[3:08:18] information I gave them.

[3:08:20] >> So, uh the inter the question we had the

[3:08:24] very first speaker of our public comment

[3:08:26] about the internet on Vegas Street.

[3:08:29] Is there any city staff that can help?

[3:08:31] Yeah, we're already working through uh

[3:08:34] options for that kind of stuff and I'll

[3:08:35] take that on.

[3:08:36] >> Okay.

[3:08:38] All right. Um I can't handle much more

[3:08:41] of the beeping, so we're going to wrap

[3:08:43] this up.

[3:08:45] >> So,

[3:08:45] >> I can't even hear it anymore. [laughter]

[3:08:48] >> It's like my head.

[3:08:49] >> Thank you to all the city staff that's

[3:08:50] been here today for all of your help. We

[3:08:53] do appreciate you. So, thank you so

[3:08:56] much.

[3:08:57] And with that, I need someone to make a

[3:08:59] motion to go into a close session.

[3:09:02] >> Make a motion to go into close session.

[3:09:04] >> I'll second. We have a motion and a

[3:09:06] second. All in favor?

[3:09:07] >> I

[3:09:12] We already

[3:09:14] did.

[3:09:15] >> Thank you.

07/15/2026 Grantsville City Council Meeting

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