[0:07] You are alive.

[0:08] Thank you so much. Appreciate

[0:09] you. Hello. Town of Groveland.

[0:14] It is the recreation committee

[0:15] at 7:04 p.m. on Thursday,

[0:18] September 3rd. Um, I'll make a

[0:21] motion to open the meeting.

[0:23] A second. Second.

[0:24] All in favor? Aye aye aye. Um,

[0:28] motion is open. Um, I do know

[0:31] that Emilio is going to be out

[0:33] today. Um, I'm not sure if

[0:35] Kate's on her way or not. I

[0:36] sent an email over so that, um,

[0:39] if she if she is on her way,

[0:41] then she knows that we're.

[0:44] We'll wait a little bit, but

[0:45] we're gonna at least get

[0:48] started. Get started anyway,

[0:50] uh, so first thing on the

[0:53] agenda is, uh, the trail

[0:57] enhancement 2025 Trail

[0:58] Enhancement Project status. And

[1:01] I have a quick update on that.

[1:03] Um, I did talk with Mike

[1:05] Dempsey. Uh, the, the bridge

[1:09] extension, um, where it's going

[1:11] to connect the rail trail to

[1:13] the Center Street Greenway. Um,

[1:15] I believe all the permitting

[1:17] and the the permits that were

[1:19] required have been granted and

[1:20] given. And what he tells me is

[1:23] he believes that they will do

[1:24] work on this at the end of the

[1:25] month. And we think that it

[1:28] should be a pretty short

[1:29] project in the in the terms of

[1:31] the actual building. So like so

[1:33] many things, a lot of a lot of

[1:35] the red tape has to get handled

[1:36] first. And then when it comes

[1:37] time to actually, you know,

[1:39] putting, um, putting nail in

[1:42] board, uh, it doesn't take as

[1:43] long as people might think. So.

[1:45] Uh, I'm optimistic that the

[1:48] bridge will be open this time

[1:49] sometime this year, and

[1:51] certainly, uh, you know,

[1:53] certainly before next spring.

[1:54] But I do believe it may be as

[1:56] soon as the end of this month,

[1:57] uh, that we'll have the

[1:59] connection live and available

[2:00] there, which is going to be

[2:01] awesome because, uh, the

[2:04] traffic on the rail trail is

[2:05] very good. And every time I

[2:07] pass by, um, I think the

[2:10] parking lot that they've added

[2:12] or the parking spaces they've

[2:13] added off Main Street, um, have

[2:15] been really have been well

[2:16] utilized. There's some, but

[2:19] less traffic, um, parked cars

[2:21] on the side of the road. So

[2:22] that was a goal that was um,

[2:24] mentioned by the select board

[2:25] and doing that as well. So, uh,

[2:27] I say kudos to them for

[2:29] providing some more access.

[2:31] Just a quick question on that.

[2:32] Is there going to be signage on

[2:34] either the rail trail or the

[2:36] Greenway saying access to.

[2:39] Well, so that's a great

[2:40] question. Um, one of the six

[2:43] kiosks that we're going to be

[2:44] putting on is going to be put

[2:45] right there. So you'll see that

[2:47] there is a, that it's it's a

[2:49] separate trail and that, you

[2:51] know, as you go off the bridge,

[2:52] you'll know that you're in a

[2:53] different place. Okay. Um, so

[2:55] that is, that is absolutely

[2:56] planned. Uh, I don't know when

[2:58] it's when the, when the kiosks

[3:00] are going to be installed quite

[3:01] yet, but I do believe most of

[3:04] them have been made or made.

[3:07] Um, you know, mostly made or

[3:10] are very close to being

[3:11] completed. Uh, and so, um,

[3:13] citing we've, we've kind of pre

[3:15] sighted one kiosk per trail and

[3:18] we have six trails. So um,

[3:21] that's generally what it is.

[3:23] There might be a little bit of

[3:24] wiggle because we've already

[3:25] got some signage, good signage

[3:26] on the rail trail. Um, but the

[3:29] uh, the Center Street Greenway

[3:30] is getting a, getting a kiosk

[3:32] there. Um, additionally, I

[3:37] talked to to Mike about the

[3:38] status of the maps, and, uh,

[3:40] where we have we've placed all

[3:43] we've now placed all the, the,

[3:45] uh, stakes where the new, uh,

[3:48] signposts are going to be. Uh,

[3:50] and one of the things that we

[3:51] did was, as we placed them, we

[3:53] geo located them. So the data

[3:56] is going to be going to be put

[3:58] to the maps and sent to the to

[4:00] the fellow in West Newbury,

[4:01] who's helping us put together

[4:02] these maps. Uh, he's doing it

[4:04] gratis. So we're really

[4:05] grateful for that. Um, and so

[4:08] my hope is that we will be able

[4:09] to have some maps, one or more

[4:13] of the maps completed by, say,

[4:15] Pumpkin Fest, which I'm not

[4:17] sure offhand what the date of

[4:19] that is, but I, I'm sure it

[4:20] will be sometime in October.

[4:22] Um, and, uh, we will, uh, we'll

[4:25] follow up on that, but I think

[4:27] that's something we'll be able

[4:28] to provide at that time. Um.

[4:31] Tober 22nd.

[4:32] It's October 22nd. One of the

[4:40] one of the issues that we'll

[4:41] talk about in a little bit is

[4:43] website marketing outreach.

[4:45] And, uh, and so I will

[4:47] definitely will raise this

[4:48] there about sometimes the

[4:51] website doesn't match up with

[4:52] what the information is or has

[4:54] or has outdated information. So

[4:56] that's a situation where we

[4:57] definitely need to make sure

[4:59] that the that pumpkin fest is

[5:00] put on on the website and get

[5:03] given some more. Um, some more

[5:07] notice. Um, anything else about

[5:11] the trail enhancement project

[5:13] at this moment?

[5:14] Not yet. At this point where

[5:16] you need a group to help with

[5:18] anything?

[5:18] Yeah, I mean, right. And we've

[5:20] talked about that a bit. Uh,

[5:21] we're we're not quite there

[5:23] yet, but I know Emilio has, uh,

[5:26] has volunteered his, his trench

[5:28] or his digger and, uh, you

[5:29] know, so that is.

[5:30] Something.

[5:31] That will be a huge help.

[5:33] I mean, right.

[5:34] I mean, uh, grabbing some

[5:36] sturdy folk to help, you know,

[5:38] manually do some of that is

[5:40] possible, especially in some of

[5:41] the more remote spots. But to

[5:43] the extent we can use machinery

[5:45] to get this done in a more

[5:46] efficient way, I'm all about

[5:48] it. And I think I think there

[5:49] will be a time and place, you

[5:51] know, to get that square. Uh,

[5:52] what? I will say one thing I

[5:54] will say to add to the

[5:55] enhancement project is, as you

[5:59] guys know, and maybe not not

[6:00] the folks out, uh, in town know

[6:03] we've been looking back at some

[6:04] of the old meetings because

[6:06] there there are some meetings

[6:07] from back in 24 and 25 that

[6:09] don't have meeting minutes. And

[6:10] we're trying to make sure that

[6:11] our, um, our record is a little

[6:13] more complete, even before, you

[6:15] know, some or most of us were

[6:17] even on the committee. Um, so

[6:19] one of the things I did was I

[6:20] looked back most recently at a

[6:22] meeting in 2024 and June 2024,

[6:25] and one of the nice things is,

[6:28] uh, they were talking about

[6:29] some needs in town, and, gee,

[6:31] wouldn't it be nice if we had,

[6:33] uh, a trail enhancement project

[6:35] to handle some of these things?

[6:36] And so it's nice to see that

[6:37] there's carryover from want

[6:40] discussion, action, plan

[6:42] action. And so, you know, I'm

[6:45] grateful that, um, that

[6:46] everybody who has been involved

[6:48] has been so helpful. And it

[6:50] does look like we're getting

[6:51] we're making some traction

[6:52] here.

[6:52] That's awesome.

[6:55] Where the bench is the last of

[6:56] the materials that needed to be

[6:58] ordered.

[6:58] Bench the last things that need

[7:00] to be ordered are the benches,

[7:02] the dog waste and waste

[7:05] baskets. Um, and also some of

[7:09] the individual markers for the

[7:11] signs. Um, so, you know, the

[7:14] the trails have names. So, you

[7:16] know, you need a sign that

[7:18] says, you know, this is the

[7:19] Bald Eagle Trail or this is the

[7:21] this trail, you know, so, um.

[7:23] Especially in town forest,

[7:24] there's like ten trail names.

[7:26] Yeah, 100%. So it's, uh, it's

[7:28] definitely that, uh, we did we

[7:30] did finish all the all the

[7:32] markings, though. I think it

[7:33] was the last meeting. We hadn't

[7:34] quite finished all of them. Um,

[7:36] but, uh, but. Yeah. So those

[7:38] are, those are the those are

[7:40] what's kind of left as far as

[7:41] materials. I think we have to

[7:43] buy some concrete to put, you

[7:44] know, to put these, these

[7:46] benches and footings in and

[7:47] whatnot. And, uh, you know,

[7:49] some of that stuff. But we're

[7:51] getting we're getting over the

[7:52] hump and it's, it's exciting as

[7:54] far as where things are. Um, I

[7:57] don't have I don't have a

[7:58] substantive update on the

[7:59] recreation, uh, lighting

[8:01] project at this point. I know

[8:03] we have a CPC meeting coming up

[8:05] in a little bit. I know, um,

[8:07] Adam Haywood and Rebecca

[8:08] Oldham, who are also working

[8:10] with me on that project, are,

[8:12] uh, we'll have a lot more

[8:13] information at that point. Uh,

[8:15] what I, what I can what I can

[8:17] say is that it's a phased

[8:18] project, so it's not something

[8:19] that's going to be completed

[8:21] this year. This is more of a

[8:22] long term deal. And the idea

[8:24] was to complete the the things

[8:26] that could be things that could

[8:28] be completed without, um, you

[8:31] know, without waste. Meaning if

[8:33] you did these, these series of

[8:35] things, it wouldn't be wasted

[8:37] money because you could just

[8:38] add on the next sort of module

[8:40] of stuff, you know, at the next

[8:42] interval. So, um, I'm excited

[8:45] to see, you know, some of this

[8:46] get done. I know it's like

[8:47] design and maybe some of the

[8:49] electric work is the first, the

[8:51] first year of it. So, um, when

[8:53] I hear more, I will update you

[8:55] guys more, um, particularly on

[8:57] that. Um, future CPC projects,

[9:02] uh, paved accessible walking

[9:05] path at Pines. Michelle.

[9:08] Yeah, no major updates on that.

[9:09] The proposal has been

[9:11] submitted. And Annie did

[9:13] confirm that she's going to put

[9:14] it in front of the CPC, so

[9:17] nothing more from that right

[9:18] now.

[9:18] So are you planning to go to

[9:19] the next meeting and, uh, kind

[9:21] of present on that and see

[9:22] what's going on?

[9:23] Um, I can I.

[9:25] I think that would be a great

[9:27] idea. As a member of the CPC.

[9:28] Absolutely. Yeah, yeah, I'm

[9:30] happy to to kind of pitch my

[9:32] idea for sure.

[9:33] Do you have do you have, um, do

[9:36] you have sort of in your brain

[9:38] an idea of what it might look

[9:39] like?

[9:39] I do, yeah, yeah. For the most

[9:42] part, I kind of feel like using

[9:45] the Riverside Park in Haverhill

[9:47] is kind of the inspiration. Um,

[9:50] I'm kind of going off of that

[9:51] and all of those enhancements

[9:53] that they did recently with

[9:54] kind of extending the path out,

[9:56] and there's some nice greenery

[9:57] space and some planter boxes

[10:01] that are maintained by, I

[10:02] believe, the Haverhill Garden

[10:03] Club. Um, so I kind of

[10:05] envisioned something like that

[10:06] where you just have a very

[10:09] flat, walkable path around a

[10:11] nice nature filled area with

[10:14] some learning opportunities for

[10:16] the community.

[10:16] That is not that is not

[10:18] immediately adjacent to a busy

[10:20] parking lot.

[10:20] That is not immediately

[10:22] adjacent to a very busy

[10:23] pipeline. Exactly. Got it. Yes.

[10:26] Well that's cool. I, I, I mean,

[10:28] you know, you don't have to,

[10:30] but, uh, certainly if you're

[10:32] interested in participating in

[10:34] the CPC meeting, I would reach

[10:35] out to Adam Haywood and just

[10:37] say, hey, listen, you know, I'd

[10:38] like to come in and present,

[10:39] and he would be thrilled. Um,

[10:41] okay. And so, yeah, that's.

[10:43] That sounds awesome.

[10:44] With that next, the next

[10:45] meeting, the needs hearing,

[10:46] would that be the most

[10:46] appropriate?

[10:47] I mean.

[10:48] It seems like the next meeting.

[10:49] Honestly. Right. Honestly, it

[10:50] can be any time. Um, you know,

[10:52] the there's there's always time

[10:54] to to vet ideas, and this is a

[10:56] good idea, you know, and this

[10:57] is an idea that, you know, it

[10:59] doesn't seem as if it would be,

[11:01] you know, extremely expensive.

[11:03] And if there was a, you know, a

[11:05] limitation on finances, you

[11:06] could you could, you know,

[11:08] scope the project based on the

[11:10] finances you have, you know, so

[11:11] it definitely could be

[11:12] something that, you know, could

[11:15] either be phased or, you know,

[11:17] like, you know, could be the

[11:18] whole thing in one fell swoop.

[11:20] Also, um, you know, so that

[11:22] would be, you know, that's

[11:24] that's interesting. And I think

[11:25] it's, I think it's a great idea.

[11:28] Uh, remind me, when's the next

[11:29] CPC meeting?

[11:30] Uh, 21st, I believe.

[11:32] 21st.

[11:33] I can confirm.

[11:37] Yes, you would know.

[11:40] I don't have it listed at.

[11:41] The 21st.

[11:41] So you maybe you know.

[11:42] About it, I.

[11:43] Put it, you might know. You

[11:44] might know.

[11:44] It better than I get, like a

[11:45] nerve. Um, I have it on my

[11:48] calendar.

[11:48] Oh, I do, I do. It is 630 on

[11:50] the 21st, actually. Absolutely.

[11:51] I do have it. So 630 on the

[11:53] 21st. Um, I, I'm happy. Um, I'm

[11:57] happy to let them know that you

[11:59] would like to come. If you

[12:00] would like to go. Yeah.

[12:02] Let me just triple check that

[12:03] and then I'll let you know.

[12:04] For sure. For sure. Um, next.

[12:08] Any other questions on that at

[12:09] this point? No. Okay. Shanahan

[12:12] field, open up the few

[12:13] accessibility up to the river.

[12:14] All right I do have I for both

[12:16] of the ones I was looking at I

[12:18] have had some discussions.

[12:20] Awesome. So I have a little bit

[12:22] of information. So it was

[12:23] mentioned at one point I think

[12:25] when, um, Mike Dempsey joined

[12:27] our meeting this over the

[12:29] summer, he had mentioned, oh, I

[12:30] think somebody did a project

[12:32] around that once or submitted

[12:33] it. And I did find that there

[12:35] was a project in, um, approved

[12:38] in fiscal year 2008. It was

[12:41] both looking at something with

[12:42] the Shanahan field like the

[12:44] like, Riverside area. And I

[12:46] think at the time, expanding

[12:48] the soccer fields. I think

[12:49] there was fewer soccer fields

[12:51] space or they only had the one

[12:53] field or something. Um, so

[12:54] there was a project, um, in

[12:57] which 12,000 of it was, um,

[13:00] allocated for landscaping to

[13:02] create a waterfront park, and I

[13:04] did I reached out to Annie and

[13:07] then she she could she found a

[13:09] couple things, but she

[13:10] recommended I do a, um, a, um,

[13:13] like a public records request

[13:14] to the town clerk. So I did,

[13:16] and I think it was. She said

[13:18] Mike Dempsey was the one who

[13:19] found this information, and he

[13:22] said his recollection was at

[13:23] the time that Park Piece did

[13:25] not move forward because of

[13:26] neighbor objections. So to me,

[13:31] I mean, that is that's

[13:33] something and it has to be part

[13:34] of the discussion. But, I, um,

[13:37] if if I found out that it was,

[13:39] oh, there are conservation or

[13:41] some kind of prohibitive, you

[13:43] can't touch that land reasons,

[13:44] then I wouldn't want to move

[13:45] forward.

[13:46] Well, you would think Mike as

[13:47] head of conservation, would

[13:48] have that in his brain.

[13:49] Exactly. And when we talked to

[13:51] him, he kind of he seemed open

[13:52] to the idea. And I know, like,

[13:54] looking up the rules. There is

[13:56] a 200 foot, um, buffer zone

[13:59] along the Merrimack River,

[14:00] right?

[14:00] Absolutely. Which isn't an

[14:02] absolute prohibition.

[14:03] Right. Just to go through

[14:05] conservation, we obviously need

[14:06] to be very careful with that.

[14:07] And as we've said in previous

[14:08] meetings, we're not looking at

[14:09] clear cut or anything like

[14:10] that. We want to preserve some

[14:13] of the nature, but is right now

[14:15] it's overgrown. I mean, you're

[14:16] down there. It's it's overgrown

[14:18] with this, um, bittersweet all

[14:20] through. There's all sorts of

[14:21] weeds. There's some dead ash

[14:23] trees and all that. So I think

[14:24] even outside of making a park,

[14:26] maintaining that would be in

[14:27] the best interest of the town.

[14:29] Honestly. Right. Um.

[14:30] So one one tricky caveat to

[14:33] that. That's a, that's a red

[14:35] flag word. Maintain. Right. So

[14:37] with CPC funds, they can't be

[14:39] used for maintenance. But um.

[14:42] create a park. Right? I mean,

[14:44] there needs to be in the plan

[14:46] like a function, you know, some

[14:47] sort of, uh, thought about how

[14:49] maintenance would happen and

[14:50] who would do it, and, you know,

[14:51] that sort of stuff. So there's

[14:52] definitely that piece of it.

[14:54] But yeah, it's it's a situation

[14:56] where, especially with the

[14:57] parking lot there now that can

[14:59] house a lot of a lot of people,

[15:01] you know, to have a place where

[15:03] people can congregate in

[15:04] multiple ways. You know, it

[15:05] sounds like, you know, I mean,

[15:08] I would love to see a, you

[15:10] know, a stage there or

[15:11] something like that looking out

[15:13] on the water, watching the

[15:14] boats go by. Like, I think

[15:16] people would love it, but but

[15:18] uh, but yeah, that sounds

[15:19] awesome.

[15:19] So yeah. And like some of the

[15:20] terminology I thought was

[15:21] really nice because I was

[15:22] talking about restoring it back

[15:24] to its natural habitat for

[15:25] wildlife and a naturalized park

[15:27] for passive recreation and a

[15:28] place for scenic river views. I

[15:30] think that matches very much

[15:31] with what we've we're talking

[15:33] about. And this is from 2008.

[15:35] So, you know, this is 18 years

[15:37] ago. They were talking about

[15:38] very similar things. Sure. And

[15:39] so I'd love to. So my plan is

[15:42] to fill out the eligibility

[15:43] application and, and present it

[15:45] at that CPC meeting.

[15:47] The one that's coming right

[15:48] out. Yes. Outstanding. Yeah.

[15:50] Um, the the other thing that I

[15:52] would recommend is take a look

[15:54] at the current master plan and

[15:56] see how it sort of how the your

[15:58] idea sort of jives with it,

[15:59] because the 2008 master

[16:01] planner, you know, like those

[16:03] sorts of things. Um, are, you

[16:05] know, might be outdated

[16:06] relative to what you'd find in

[16:08] the new in the new plan. Um, I

[16:10] would I would be hesitant to

[16:13] say that it should only be used

[16:14] for passive, okay recreation in

[16:17] the sense that, I mean, like,

[16:18] if you had a stage there, you

[16:20] would have plays there. And

[16:21] that's not passive recreation,

[16:22] you know. But but but I mean,

[16:24] uh, certainly a mix of, of

[16:26] active and passive like, you

[16:28] know, um, in like, just like

[16:30] you're saying you're not we're

[16:31] not looking at clear cut it.

[16:32] And you know, you know, put and

[16:34] pave it, pave it away. It's

[16:36] it's, uh, how can we have

[16:38] another place in town where

[16:40] we've created this great access

[16:42] where people can use it for a

[16:43] whole slew of good reasons?

[16:45] Yeah. Like I think I've said in

[16:46] these meetings for, like, the

[16:47] town only owns so much

[16:48] riverfront land. Right? So it's

[16:50] a shame not to take advantage.

[16:51] Of it 100%.

[16:52] I think for the neighbors, I

[16:53] mean, I think we can have that

[16:55] discussion as it moves forward,

[16:56] but I know the town owns behind

[16:57] a few of the houses and I

[16:58] wouldn't want to propose. Oh,

[17:00] yeah. We're going all behind

[17:01] your house along the river. I

[17:02] would like it to be in line

[17:03] with the soccer field. So it

[17:05] kind of maintains that

[17:06] separation leaves that buffer

[17:08] zone for those abutments.

[17:09] And it's 20 years hence. So the

[17:11] neighbors might be different

[17:12] neighbors. Very true. So so I

[17:14] mean, you know, it's a at a

[17:16] minimum exploring it is is

[17:18] super appropriate. And yeah

[17:20] okay. So maybe it doesn't get

[17:21] done as exactly how you might

[17:23] want to do. Or maybe there's

[17:25] some barriers. But you know,

[17:26] it's certainly the kind of

[17:27] thing that is worth the

[17:28] discussion. We're talking

[17:29] about. Worth seeing what can be

[17:32] done. And even if you know, it

[17:33] can't be full bore, exactly

[17:35] what you know, you or we or you

[17:37] know, any subset of people

[17:38] might want something can be to

[17:40] do something. You know, I would

[17:42] be I'd be shocked if we

[17:43] couldn't. We couldn't have

[17:43] something to improve that

[17:45] really great space. Um, I mean,

[17:48] you know, already already

[17:50] having the parking there made

[17:51] it easy for, like, the

[17:52] fireworks, you know, is a

[17:54] really good. And it's looking

[17:55] to be an annual thing. Um, so,

[17:58] you know, it's it's definitely

[17:59] a spot. And I can say for a

[18:01] certainty that the master, the

[18:03] current master plan, talks in

[18:05] great detail about trying to

[18:06] maximize the value of the

[18:07] things that we have already.

[18:09] And Shanahan field is is a gem

[18:11] in our town. So I think that's

[18:13] great. You said you you looked

[18:15] on two both things.

[18:16] Yes. Both things. So the um,

[18:18] the shade structures at Bagnell

[18:20] I um similarly I talked to

[18:23] Annie about that, um, because I

[18:26] know they had just done the,

[18:27] um, the shade structures at the

[18:30] Pines. Um, and she did, um,

[18:33] because one of the questions I

[18:35] had was about maintenance, and

[18:36] she said the ones they bought

[18:37] for the pines do require the

[18:39] fabric to be removed at the end

[18:40] of the fall and then put back

[18:41] up in the spring, which makes

[18:43] sense. And she sent me a link

[18:44] to some of the, like, the

[18:46] company that they had used,

[18:47] which obviously has gone to bed

[18:48] and all that, but at least

[18:49] gives us a guideline and

[18:51] there's a bunch of nice, um,

[18:53] examples of how it works with

[18:55] the it can work with

[18:56] playgrounds and such. And I was

[18:58] trying to find websites that

[18:59] showed you, like the directions

[19:01] of the sun and different times

[19:02] of the day to try to get a

[19:03] feeling for that. So similarly,

[19:05] I think there's still more

[19:06] research to be done there, but

[19:06] I'd like to put the application

[19:08] the the eligibility application

[19:10] in and talk to that at the

[19:13] upcoming CPC meeting to start

[19:14] moving that forward.

[19:15] Yeah. These are these are

[19:16] great. These are great plans.

[19:17] All three of them. And you

[19:19] know, I think they're going to

[19:20] you're going to be met with a

[19:22] lot of support at the CPC

[19:23] level. And you know what I can

[19:25] say. You know putting on my

[19:26] CPC, um, member hat for just a

[19:30] second is that, you know, one

[19:32] of the things that we just

[19:34] desperately crave is for the

[19:35] proponents to be active about

[19:37] their projects and for people

[19:38] to come in and say, hey, you

[19:40] know, I've done this work.

[19:43] Look, what should I do next?

[19:45] How can I make this better?

[19:46] What are some, you know, do you

[19:47] see some problems with it? How

[19:49] can we work? You know, how can

[19:50] we collaborate to, you know,

[19:51] surmount them and have a

[19:53] project that is complete ready,

[19:55] and, you know, very, um, very,

[19:59] you know, a layup to, to make

[20:01] it a town meeting, you know,

[20:02] is, is, you know, how I sort of

[20:04] think about it and I think my,

[20:06] you know, the other members

[20:07] there would, would say

[20:08] similarly. So, uh, great job

[20:10] taking the initiative. That's

[20:11] awesome. And uh, when Emilio

[20:14] comes back from the next

[20:15] meeting, we'll talk about bike

[20:16] lanes and all that good stuff,

[20:18] and that'll be awesome as well.

[20:19] Yeah, I'm hearing early good

[20:21] reviews about the basketball

[20:22] court that was installed about

[20:23] now as the it was just done

[20:26] this summer. Yeah, as a

[20:27] project. We approved the town

[20:29] meeting this spring, and the

[20:30] kids are all excited about it.

[20:31] It's nice, fenced in, and they

[20:33] were already out there playing

[20:33] basketball on the second day of

[20:35] school, so.

[20:35] I haven't seen it. I mean, I've

[20:37] heard on there.

[20:38] I haven't been.

[20:38] Back there. That's so cool.

[20:40] I want to go back there and do

[20:41] some measuring, but I obviously

[20:42] can't. I'm not gonna do that

[20:43] during school hours. Be a

[20:44] frequent measuring tape. Okay.

[20:46] Well, good news. Uh, this

[20:48] weekend is Labor Day weekend.

[20:49] There's plenty of time to go

[20:51] sweet. And right over there.

[20:52] There won't be any.

[20:53] My wife works at the school, so

[20:54] she's going to take some

[20:55] pictures of the shade for me at

[20:56] different times during recess.

[20:58] Yeah.

[20:58] That's awesome. They said

[20:59] recesses go from 1030 to 130 so

[21:02] he can focus. Obviously pick of

[21:03] the day, try to do some math on

[21:07] angles and maximize.

[21:08] But what about the different

[21:09] times of year two?

[21:10] Well that's the thing. Yeah.

[21:11] Yeah, right.

[21:12] The sun is in a different. spot

[21:14] than it.

[21:14] Is true. And it is.

[21:15] Like October.

[21:16] And it's like they said like

[21:17] the kids say, like starting

[21:19] those first sunny days in

[21:20] April, they're all underneath

[21:21] the slide because that's the

[21:22] only shady.

[21:23] Spot, the playground.

[21:24] So it's it's I think, um, I

[21:28] think that'll be an interesting

[21:29] discussion. Like, do we want to

[21:31] cover playground equipment or

[21:32] just provide a space for kids

[21:33] to get out of the sun? Right. I

[21:35] think those are two good

[21:36] approaches. So it may be more

[21:39] cost effective to kind of do

[21:41] that ladder where it's a place

[21:42] to get out of the sun. Um, but

[21:44] also there's an argument to

[21:45] protect the equipment from UV.

[21:48] rays and sun. damage to

[21:49] maximize the lifespan of that

[21:51] as well. So.

[21:52] I mean, I've definitely if

[21:53] there's some equipment that

[21:54] seems like it gets hotter than

[21:55] others.

[21:56] No.

[21:56] You're good. You know, maybe

[21:57] focusing on that. Um, whereas

[21:59] like, like if the slide gets a

[22:01] little bit hotter compared to

[22:03] the, there's like a little like

[22:04] climbing structure, right. Then

[22:06] maybe.

[22:06] It's like.

[22:07] Yeah, we leave.

[22:08] The climbing to slide.

[22:09] It's hot in.

[22:09] The sun. Yeah.

[22:10] Yeah. So maybe that there's an

[22:11] opportunity there to kind of

[22:12] focus on the, the hotter items.

[22:16] Yeah. I think that that makes

[22:17] sense and stuff. Maybe the, the

[22:19] plastic things that do break

[22:20] down early like sooner and

[22:22] yeah. You know trying to

[22:23] maximize though that also is a

[22:24] CPA project a few years ago. So

[22:27] maximizing our investment in

[22:29] the playground equipment.

[22:30] I'm also trying.

[22:31] To picture I haven't been back

[22:33] there in a little bit, and I

[22:35] know it's mostly cement. Right.

[22:37] And I know that there are some

[22:38] trees lining the in between the

[22:42] field and the cement, but is

[22:44] there any other opportunities

[22:45] to plant natural shade?

[22:47] That's a good question. Um.

[22:50] I mean, we can't do it,

[22:51] obviously right in the middle

[22:51] of the park. Right, right.

[22:52] Because it's the same cement.

[22:54] They put down that like that

[22:55] spongy stuff. Um, yeah. Yeah.

[22:57] So that's the, the other, the

[22:59] thing we can look at too, and

[23:00] we can maybe talk to the town

[23:02] as they work on plans, the, um,

[23:05] the back section closer to the

[23:07] trees was the preschool play

[23:09] area. And the preschool is all

[23:10] just consolidated to Merrimack.

[23:12] So there's no preschool at

[23:13] Bagnell anymore. So that space

[23:15] may be possibly repurposed into

[23:17] shade structures or natural

[23:19] shade.

[23:20] Or more playgrounds.

[23:20] Or more playground. Yeah. They

[23:22] have lamented that there's only

[23:23] four total swings and Reese's

[23:25] only 20 minutes, so the line

[23:26] doesn't get through. Yeah, so

[23:28] that could be I've sort of

[23:31] thought of that as a and I'm

[23:32] like, I don't think we want to

[23:33] muddy and try to make this too

[23:35] big a project. Right. Um, but

[23:36] that kind of a bolt on to like,

[23:38] additional playground equipment

[23:39] may be interesting at some

[23:40] point in the future.

[23:41] As well. And yeah, I mean, and

[23:43] remember, it's not this is the

[23:45] only time we'll ever have a

[23:46] chance to do things. I mean,

[23:48] you know, it's it's nice to see

[23:50] when you look back at some of

[23:51] the old minutes and some of the

[23:53] old videos, you'll see. And we

[23:54] were just talking about this a

[23:55] bit is you'll see some of the

[23:57] things that were that were

[23:58] ideas back just a couple of

[24:00] years ago. They're now in

[24:01] place. And, you know, the, the,

[24:04] the process from idea to

[24:07] approved to funded to complete

[24:10] it, you know, and so it's, it's

[24:12] great to have these sort of

[24:14] brainstorm sessions about what,

[24:16] what might be good for, you

[24:18] know, fiscal year 2028. Yeah.

[24:20] And so, um, you know, bookmark

[24:22] it in your brain and, you know,

[24:24] work on the thing that you've

[24:25] got there and, and maybe, maybe

[24:27] you can expand scope, right, if

[24:28] it makes sense. And given

[24:30] what's going on, uh, one

[24:32] question I have that's not

[24:33] necessarily exactly relevant to

[24:35] it, but, uh, is, you know, in a

[24:37] tangent is did you have you

[24:40] seen the have you seen the, uh,

[24:42] the, the, um, the garden. How's

[24:45] the garden looking?

[24:46] I heard the garden looks really

[24:47] good. Yeah. Um, but I haven't

[24:49] personally seen.

[24:50] It yet. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah. I

[24:51] want to take a, you know, I

[24:53] need to take a peek over there

[24:54] and check it out, but, um, but

[24:55] that was a project that, you

[24:57] know, you had this this land

[24:58] that was really fallow, and,

[25:00] um, you know, um, someone from

[25:02] town stepped up and said, hey,

[25:03] I want to, you know, kind of, I

[25:05] want to grab this. And then,

[25:06] you know, just two years later,

[25:07] I know, I know that my daughter

[25:09] has had, you know, field trips

[25:11] to the garden and had a great

[25:13] time. You know.

[25:13] He's been really planted things

[25:15] and had, like, tastings. Yeah,

[25:17] it was fun. So looking this up,

[25:19] I was on like the, the my map,

[25:21] the Groveland like the mapping.

[25:22] And they do have they have

[25:24] historical overhead stuff. And

[25:26] so I like I was curious because

[25:28] I had the old playground from

[25:29] before, but you could see when

[25:31] they had the garden before and

[25:32] then it went fallow and then

[25:33] came back with the, with the

[25:35] overhead. It was kind of neat

[25:36] to see. It's like, oh, they

[25:37] built the new playground. But

[25:39] then the garden wasn't good.

[25:40] But then the garden came back.

[25:41] So it was neat to see over. I

[25:43] think it was nine years worth

[25:44] of overhead, uh, photography

[25:46] that to see the, the garden

[25:48] coming back. And yeah, I know

[25:50] my kids really enjoy that too.

[25:51] And I don't think that the

[25:53] garden as a, as an activity is

[25:56] dead as far as like complete. I

[25:58] think there's I think there's

[25:59] definitely some room that they

[26:01] can expand on it. And it's been

[26:02] such a positive thing. So

[26:04] that's, you know, thinking

[26:05] about potential future

[26:06] projects. That's something that

[26:07] I definitely.

[26:07] Want to do. They don't want

[26:08] shade in the garden. It's good.

[26:11] Except for the plants that want

[26:12] shade. Right. You know, so.

[26:13] I mean, yeah.

[26:14] Talk to the.

[26:15] Garden planter under the new

[26:16] shade structure for, uh, you

[26:18] know, some lettuces that don't

[26:19] get scorched.

[26:22] Um, so Kate's with us now.

[26:24] Fantastic. So that's awesome.

[26:26] Um, and it is. It's good

[26:30] because there was something I

[26:30] wanted to talk to you about

[26:31] coming up that we haven't

[26:32] reached yet. Okay. Um, but any

[26:34] other questions about the

[26:36] future CPC projects that we're

[26:38] talking about right now?

[26:39] Nope.

[26:41] All right. Open space and

[26:43] recreation. Uh, we still are.

[26:45] We? You know, we're still not

[26:47] locked in on what's CP funds

[26:49] and what's not as far as the as

[26:50] far as that, um, and we're not

[26:54] really ripe for a work for a

[26:56] trail work day for purposes of,

[27:00] uh, moving forward, the

[27:01] enhancement, the trail

[27:02] enhancement project. However, I

[27:04] do think I do think, um, you

[27:06] know, Mike and I were out on I

[27:08] think it was Meadow Pond, uh,

[27:11] doing some work, and, uh, there

[27:13] was there were some spots that

[27:14] really could use some help. So

[27:15] I think, uh, there were a

[27:17] couple of fields, a couple of

[27:19] the trails that, you know,

[27:20] could really use some tender

[27:22] loving care, just as in a

[27:23] cleanup way. So I will check

[27:26] into those before the next

[27:27] meeting. Particularly, I'm

[27:28] thinking about Meadow Pond and

[27:31] Town Forest.

[27:33] Like branches. Yeah.

[27:35] Like trees, like trees fallen,

[27:37] you know, like, uh, paths. Not

[27:40] not entirely clear. Things like

[27:41] that. Ultimately, when we get

[27:43] when we have mapping and new

[27:45] signposts and all that stuff,

[27:46] it'll be clearer even when

[27:47] there's brush and even when

[27:49] there's, you know, when there's

[27:50] some overgrowth. But, um,

[27:53] especially now where we're kind

[27:54] of in the, you know, in the

[27:55] middle a little bit, um, it's

[27:57] sometimes it can use a little.

[27:59] We can, you can use some tender

[28:00] loving care and some chainsaws.

[28:02] Yeah.

[28:03] I don't have a tiny battery

[28:04] when it's like this big that

[28:05] bring camping with us.

[28:06] Yeah. Exactly. So. And and

[28:09] we'll get Amelia. We'll get

[28:10] Amelia to come back and bring

[28:11] us heavy equipment. But, uh.

[28:14] But that's TBD. Uh, I'll talk

[28:17] to Mike. About what? What might

[28:18] work, and then we'll see if we

[28:20] can get something in something.

[28:22] Either either this year or

[28:23] first year. First thing when

[28:24] the when it's nice after

[28:26] winter. Uh, field use fees. I

[28:29] think this is an ongoing

[28:30] discussion. Uh, the select

[28:32] boards put thrown their hat

[28:33] into that as well. And so I

[28:35] think there are um, there are

[28:38] some discussions. So it may be

[28:40] it may be useful at some point

[28:41] for us to, um, either have

[28:44] someone from the Selectboard

[28:45] come and talk with us here or

[28:46] have someone from here go to

[28:47] the Selectboard and sit in a

[28:49] meeting to talk about it. But

[28:50] it's definitely something that

[28:51] is, um, being bandied about as

[28:53] far as you know. I mean, these

[28:55] fields are getting nicer. Um,

[28:57] if if we're using 20 years ago,

[29:00] you know, pricing, then, you

[29:02] know, we're due for an update.

[29:03] And, you know, to the extent

[29:05] that we, you know, rent out

[29:06] this stuff, we should be

[29:07] getting fair value for it and

[29:08] all that. And, um, certainly

[29:11] make sure that we're, um,

[29:13] competitive with everybody

[29:14] around. Also, um, anything on

[29:17] Open Space and Rec?

[29:18] No.

[29:20] Uh.

[29:22] The question of like, which

[29:23] parcels were purchased with CPC

[29:25] funds, where do we know where

[29:27] that information is? Where does

[29:29] it live?

[29:29] Um, that's a good question. Um.

[29:33] Well.

[29:33] I will be meeting with the CPC

[29:35] very soon. Okay. And at the

[29:37] meeting where it seems like

[29:38] most of the recreation

[29:39] committee is going to be there,

[29:40] I can ask that question. So I

[29:42] will ask, uh, Adam Haywood, who

[29:44] is the chair of that committee.

[29:47] When is, uh.

[29:48] That meeting is.

[29:50] The 24th.

[29:51] The 21st at 6:30 p.m.. Okay,

[29:54] definitive.

[29:54] We've already looked at it.

[29:56] Okay.

[29:57] It's only definitively because

[29:58] I didn't I didn't have it

[29:59] immediately in front of me as

[30:00] well. So you've got to see you.

[30:02] You've got to you're spared

[30:04] from watching me, uh, fumble

[30:05] around.

[30:08] Over here.

[30:10] Do you want to hear. Oh,

[30:12] actually.

[30:12] Thank you.

[30:13] I just got.

[30:14] It back.

[30:14] So. September, what, 20?

[30:17] We've. So. Monday, 21 to

[30:19] Monday, coming up.

[30:20] At 630. So it's the equinox.

[30:25] For. Oh, nice.

[30:29] Um, so we will address that at

[30:33] the meeting.

[30:37] And that's here as well.

[30:38] Right. It is. Um. So the next

[30:45] topic I wanted to put on, and I

[30:46] want to keep it as a running

[30:47] topic for us because I think I

[30:50] think actually, Kate, I'm so

[30:51] glad you're here. Um, like,

[30:53] pointed out, a website, you

[30:55] know, has all kinds of

[30:56] inconsistencies and problems.

[30:58] It just doesn't match with

[30:59] that. And this doesn't, you

[31:00] know, so what I would like to

[31:02] do and I mean, you know, you

[31:03] can say no as much as you want,

[31:05] like I like to kind of put you

[31:07] in charge of, at least for the

[31:10] recreation committee. Okay.

[31:11] Like trying is trying to see

[31:13] how we can get the data to be

[31:15] accurate and current and

[31:16] updated. Okay. And, you know,

[31:18] just make sure that, um, you

[31:21] know, to the, to the best of

[31:22] our ability where things are

[31:24] linking that there's the right

[31:25] stuff..

[31:26] The links are there.

[31:27] Yeah, yeah. And you know

[31:28] because so for example, I was

[31:30] looking today for pumpkin

[31:31] pumpkin fest and I've found

[31:32] information for like I think

[31:33] 2024 and you know. Yeah, but

[31:36] there wasn't anything about,

[31:37] you know, this year. And so all

[31:40] well and good. Fine. But you

[31:41] know like as we try to sort of

[31:43] clean things up, you know, for

[31:45] our spot and our little piece

[31:47] in the world that that too will

[31:48] help, you know, on the sort of

[31:50] broader, you know, Groveland

[31:52] website and, you know, things

[31:53] like that. We always talk

[31:55] about, you know, it's really

[31:56] important to get the

[31:56] information out to the people.

[31:58] And if our information out to

[31:59] people is all muddled, then

[32:00] they're like, well, I'm not

[32:01] going to look at that because I

[32:02] it's it's not useful to me. So,

[32:04] um, that's something that I

[32:05] want to keep is kind of, um,

[32:08] you know, evergreen topic just

[32:10] to sort of make sure that we

[32:11] move the ball, at least in some

[32:12] way, on some of the stuff. Um,

[32:14] yeah.

[32:15] I'm happy to, um, to, to kind

[32:18] of be the point person for

[32:19] that. Um.

[32:19] I knew you.

[32:20] Would.

[32:21] That's awesome.

[32:22] Um, does the like, who's in

[32:25] charge of the town website?

[32:27] So I'm not sure, but I think

[32:29] the, the conduit, the first

[32:31] conduit for information would

[32:32] be Annie Schindler would be the

[32:33] person to reach out to, I

[32:35] think. And, uh, and so, um, she

[32:39] probably will have the sort of

[32:41] keys of the kingdom on who, who

[32:42] does what and how things kind

[32:43] of go. And then, then we can

[32:45] start to talk about, okay, what

[32:47] needs to be changed, what can

[32:49] be changed easily. You know.

[32:51] What's more complicated, right.

[32:52] And I know last time you guys

[32:54] had talked about that, there is

[32:56] somebody who was working on

[32:57] updating the maps.

[32:59] Yeah, we talked about that

[33:00] today a bit too. And so he's a

[33:03] fellow from West Newbury. I

[33:04] don't have his name as I sit

[33:05] here in the second. Uh, but

[33:07] Mike Dempsey and I are working

[33:09] on the trail enhancements. So,

[33:12] uh, Mike, Mike would have his

[33:14] contact information and

[33:15] whatnot. And so part and parcel

[33:17] of that is we are providing

[33:19] that fellow the information,

[33:21] the data that he needs to do

[33:23] the maps anyway. So, um, so

[33:26] this is timely in the sense of

[33:28] talking to him about, you know,

[33:29] how we get it done and making

[33:31] sure, making sure that we can

[33:32] get a QR code so people can use

[33:34] a phone and see a map and, you

[33:35] know, and that the, the, uh,

[33:38] the trail signs are geo

[33:39] located. And so you, you know,

[33:40] where you are when you are and.

[33:42] All that kind of stuff.

[33:43] Um, so the, the maps that he's

[33:45] making, are they like surveyor

[33:48] type maps or are they like

[33:50] public use kind of trails?

[33:52] The idea is so that they will

[33:53] be public use trail maps. Okay.

[33:55] So that, you know, that'll be

[33:57] what's, um, the QR code that

[33:59] you'll see when you go to the

[34:00] kiosk, which for each

[34:01] particular trail. So the idea

[34:03] is eventually at every

[34:04] trailhead you'll see, you know,

[34:07] okay, this is the such and such

[34:08] trail. Here's the QR code for

[34:10] the for the map. Here's a QR

[34:12] code to donate to the trails

[34:14] project. You know, whatever,

[34:16] right? You know, instead of a

[34:17] little lockbox, right. Live in

[34:19] the future. It's fantastic. Um,

[34:21] and then, you know, so so that

[34:24] information can all be, oh,

[34:26] okay, I'm starting here and now

[34:27] I can see all this.

[34:28] Stuff, so.

[34:29] Gotcha. That's the idea.

[34:30] Okay.

[34:31] Um, but yeah. And any way that

[34:33] I can be helpful, I'm sure, uh,

[34:36] I'm sure everyone on the board

[34:37] feels the same way, you know?

[34:39] Please. You know, let us know.

[34:41] And, you know, we'll all kind

[34:42] of work together to try to

[34:43] identify where there is, where

[34:45] they're kind of blind spots.

[34:46] And there are things that we

[34:46] can we can improve upon and,

[34:48] you know, and then to make sure

[34:50] that the data that we add in is

[34:52] good data. Okay.

[34:53] Yeah, I will do that and have

[34:56] something to report back next

[34:57] month.

[34:58] Um, additionally, I talked to

[35:00] Mike and we we kind of agreed

[35:02] that we think that the maps or

[35:03] at least some subset of them,

[35:05] they're going to be six, right?

[35:07] Should be done by, uh, Pumpkin

[35:10] Fest. And so we should be able

[35:12] to distribute something or

[35:13] provide information or have

[35:15] some sort of a blast, uh, on or

[35:17] before then, okay, to say, hey,

[35:19] look, you know, we've been

[35:20] doing some work, and this is

[35:21] what we've been up to. And so,

[35:23] um, that's that's the goal as

[35:25] we sit here today..

[35:26] And, um, that was what October

[35:29] like.

[35:29] October 22nd.

[35:30] 22nd, 22nd.

[35:34] 2nd June. Right.

[35:36] Okay.

[35:39] Okay. Um, anybody have anything

[35:42] about website marketing

[35:43] outreach?

[35:45] Nope.

[35:48] Okay. Very good. On to Roland

[35:50] de Groveland. Day is coming

[35:51] right up. It is the, uh, the

[35:54] 11th and 12th. I'm looking at

[35:56] the map or the calendar.

[35:58] Yeah.

[35:58] The calendar map is next

[36:00] weekend. Not this weekend. So

[36:02] the 11th and the 12th, Friday

[36:03] and Saturday are, uh, when it

[36:05] is, uh, I have not been able to

[36:07] confirm that we can secure a

[36:09] booth, but if I do, I will

[36:11] blast you. And I will say I

[36:13] will run it at this times. And,

[36:15] you know, we'll see who who can

[36:16] man it, you know, for whenever

[36:18] we're, we're doing it. But

[36:19] basically, um, if we're, if

[36:21] we're allowed, if we're

[36:22] permitted to do it, um, then,

[36:25] you know, uh, Michelle and I

[36:27] did, you know, did one before

[36:29] and we, you know, we got some

[36:30] like, uh, some cornhole boards

[36:33] and, you know, hung out and

[36:34] passed out maps and, you know,

[36:36] uh, there were folks that said,

[36:38] oh, I didn't know that there

[36:38] was a trail over there or, you

[36:40] know, wanted to talk about

[36:41] things that they're interested

[36:43] in in town. And so it's a good

[36:44] way to just sort of, you know,

[36:46] shoot the breeze with folks to

[36:48] see. So if we're able to do

[36:49] that, we will do that. If not,

[36:51] I think the plan will be to

[36:52] have some sort of presence in

[36:53] some way at Pumpkin Fest, you

[36:55] know, so we we kind of do get

[36:56] two bites at the apple in this

[36:58] sense. And, uh, to maybe hear

[37:00] what folks are thinking.

[37:01] Yep.

[37:02] Okay. I think, uh, the select

[37:03] board's doing some suggestion

[37:05] box type things. And I remember

[37:07] Michelle talking about doing a

[37:08] suggestion box on the website.

[37:10] But I don't know, even if we

[37:11] aren't organized enough to do

[37:13] that, if this if the select

[37:14] board folks wouldn't mind a

[37:16] recreation.

[37:17] Like an addendum.

[37:18] Yeah. Well, because they were

[37:19] just going to have like cars,

[37:20] you could put it in the, the

[37:22] like into the box for the

[37:23] different. It was essentially

[37:25] like the idea that we don't

[37:26] want a long survey just like a

[37:27] hey, I'd like X, I want more

[37:30] walking trails. And they put it

[37:32] like if, if that could be one

[37:33] of the topics that and even if

[37:36] they would allow us to join

[37:37] like the town booth or

[37:38] something too, if we, we don't

[37:40] have enough for our own booths.

[37:41] Right. We could kind of be a

[37:42] presence there. And that could

[37:45] be an option to just like, I

[37:47] like that idea of suggestion

[37:48] because like a full survey is a

[37:50] big commitment trying to chase

[37:51] people down. But hey, do you

[37:53] have an idea? Well, or just

[37:56] scribbled down?

[37:56] And it wasn't long ago that we

[37:57] did do one of those. So I mean,

[37:59] again, you know, you don't want

[38:00] to you don't want to obliterate

[38:02] people's interest, you know,

[38:03] interest by, you know, blasting

[38:05] them with what do you think

[38:06] about this? And what do you

[38:07] think about that? You know, too

[38:09] much. Um, periodically it's

[38:11] good. And certainly if there's

[38:12] already kind of a presence from

[38:14] the select board, you know, um,

[38:16] sort of doubling up on that,

[38:18] you know, might not be super

[38:19] helpful, but but certainly, you

[38:21] know, to the extent that the

[38:23] kinds of suggestions that they

[38:24] got, they get will affect

[38:26] recreation, it's like it's

[38:27] absolutely information that we

[38:29] should share and collaborate

[38:30] on. Yeah. Um, other thoughts.

[38:38] Do, uh, well, do we have the

[38:41] any of the suggestions written

[38:43] down anywhere from the last

[38:44] time we did this?

[38:46] Um.

[38:47] The survey? Sure. Um, yeah. So

[38:50] that was back in. I want to see

[38:52] 2024. We did. It was like an

[38:54] anonymous survey monkey survey.

[38:57] Um, and we got very minimal

[39:00] responses. Sure. Um, I think

[39:02] the overall theme was make

[39:05] trails more visible. Um, um,

[39:07] from the again, very limited,

[39:10] like I think we got, I think we

[39:12] got two. Yeah. To fill out the

[39:14] survey.

[39:15] So Upon this committee.

[39:17] You know, one of them may have

[39:18] already been on the committee

[39:19] as well. And then the other one

[39:21] probably puts a test.

[39:22] Notice.

[39:23] Um, yeah. So very, very minimal

[39:25] responses. But again, overall

[39:27] theme was just I didn't know

[39:28] that we had trails. It would be

[39:29] nice to. Yeah. Have it be more

[39:32] known. Yeah.

[39:33] Right. And that is, that is,

[39:35] you know, dead center on what

[39:36] we're trying to do with the

[39:37] enhancement project. And then,

[39:38] you know, I mean, uh, that and

[39:41] just like I was saying about,

[39:42] you know, the project with the

[39:43] shade, that's not necessarily

[39:46] the end of it, right? You know,

[39:47] I mean, so 2028, 2029, you

[39:50] know, there are there are going

[39:51] to be more opportunities to do

[39:52] more things. Hey, I really

[39:53] liked how you did this on the

[39:54] trail. We should have more of

[39:56] that. Or wow, that didn't work

[39:57] at all. This. This would be a

[39:59] better this would be a better

[40:00] idea. You know, some of this is

[40:02] you plug, you play and you see

[40:04] you see what works. We put in a

[40:06] couple big bellies on the on

[40:08] the rail, you know, on the rail

[40:09] trail. I want to see how they

[40:10] how they kind of vest over a

[40:12] couple of years. You know, if

[40:13] it's not a big deal with the,

[40:15] you know, the upkeep and things

[40:16] that, you know, those sorts of

[40:17] things, maybe that maybe

[40:18] they'll be interested you more

[40:20] of those, maybe that was not

[40:21] good. And so, you know, it's

[40:23] it's um, it is definitely a

[40:26] moving, you know, a moving

[40:27] target as far as, you know

[40:29] what, what's the right thing to

[40:30] do, you know, in a particular

[40:31] time. But but, um, you know,

[40:34] I'm encouraged, especially when

[40:37] I'm going through the, you

[40:38] know, the sort of rubric of

[40:39] looking at these old meetings.

[40:41] And I'm encouraged to see that

[40:42] some of the things that people

[40:43] have been talking about are

[40:44] things that got done. And

[40:46] that's a great credit, not just

[40:48] to this committee, but also to,

[40:50] uh, you know, Andy and Rebecca

[40:52] and Town Hall and then the

[40:53] select board and all the folks

[40:54] who volunteer to help and, you

[40:56] know, people at the CPC who,

[40:58] you know, worked, worked to

[40:59] get, you know, make sure these

[41:00] things got funded. Uh, you

[41:02] know, people at town Hall

[41:04] trying to, you know, vet these

[41:05] things and, you know, that sort

[41:06] of thing. So it's it is really

[41:08] an all hands on deck kind of

[41:10] approach. And to see, you know,

[41:13] idea to plan to funding to

[41:15] completion is awesome. So, um,

[41:18] maybe, maybe two years ago,

[41:19] you'll look back on this, you

[41:20] won't be doing it because you

[41:21] need meeting minutes, because

[41:22] Steve's does a fantastic job

[41:24] getting them every week. But,

[41:26] um, but, you know, it's nice

[41:28] every now and then to take

[41:29] stock of, you know, what the,

[41:31] the the general trajectory of

[41:33] the board is or the committee

[41:34] is. So, um, so I'm happy about

[41:37] that. Yeah. On that note, uh,

[41:40] let's look at the old meeting

[41:41] minutes. Um, as everyone had a

[41:44] chance to take a peek at these.

[41:48] Uh, sorry. Prior meeting.

[41:50] The meeting, the July 23rd

[41:52] meeting. Minutes that I have

[41:53] put in front of you. Okay. Uh.

[41:55] I'm sorry. Are we voting on the

[41:57] other ones, too?

[41:58] Not today. I don't have all. I

[42:00] don't have all those meeting

[42:01] minutes completed. Gotcha. So

[42:02] I, I am working on those

[42:04] because it's not fair to make

[42:05] Steve do all those because he

[42:06] does a good job on the ones

[42:07] that we can.

[42:08] Help with that.

[42:09] Nope. Nope. I, uh, I am not

[42:11] going to do that. Um, so, um. I

[42:18] know I sent you guys an email

[42:19] about it, but the people in

[42:20] town don't know. Um, it's as

[42:21] far as prior meeting minutes.

[42:23] We're working on getting

[42:23] everything put together so that

[42:25] there are meeting minutes for

[42:26] all the meetings that we that

[42:27] we have, um, video for from

[42:31] 2024 through the present. Um, I

[42:34] think there are a couple of

[42:35] meetings that I saw that I

[42:36] didn't see, you know, a video

[42:38] for, but there are at least

[42:40] four that are outstanding.

[42:41] We've uploaded some of the old

[42:42] ones that we were able to

[42:44] locate as well. Um, but I think

[42:46] there are four there.

[42:47] Outstanding. I've assigned, um,

[42:50] you know, watching these

[42:51] minutes of these meetings, uh,

[42:53] to members of the committee,

[42:55] and everybody's been really

[42:57] super helpful. And very soon we

[42:59] will get those meeting minutes

[43:00] approved and then have a much

[43:02] more complete, um, you know,

[43:05] uh, array of, of, uh, what

[43:07] we've been doing here for the

[43:08] past couple of years. Uh, but

[43:10] with that, do I have, uh, do I

[43:12] have a motion to approve the

[43:13] meeting minutes of July 23rd,

[43:16] 2026?

[43:17] I'll move to.

[43:18] Approve..

[43:20] I have a second.

[43:20] Oh, I second.

[43:22] Uh, any discussion? All those

[43:24] in favor? Aye, aye. All right.

[43:27] Meeting minutes approved. I

[43:28] will make sure they get to the

[43:29] town to town clerk and are

[43:31] updated on the website. Um,

[43:34] future agenda items or

[43:35] planning? Uh, anybody have

[43:37] anything that they want to get

[43:39] on the agenda for the next

[43:40] meeting?

[43:43] Uh, maybe. I don't know if. Did

[43:46] y'all talk about, um, mission

[43:48] statement yet?

[43:49] Uh, we haven't. And you sent me

[43:51] something that was helpful and

[43:53] appropriate. Um, and should

[43:57] probably form the basis of what

[43:59] we end up doing about that.

[44:00] Okay. Um, so let's put it let's

[44:03] let's have a future agenda item

[44:05] about mission statement for the

[44:06] recreation Committee. Um, uh,

[44:09] Kate did, in fact send me some

[44:11] very helpful information about

[44:12] that, that I will help to shape,

[44:16] uh, and hopefully have

[44:17] something that we can we can

[44:18] maybe vote on next time.

[44:19] Yeah. There. Yeah. I think

[44:21] there were, like, a couple of

[44:22] different suggestions in there

[44:23] of, like, a very short one and

[44:25] then a more one, longer one.

[44:28] We can, we can talk about it.

[44:30] But but that'll definitely that

[44:31] definitely will go on the next

[44:33] on the next meeting. Uh

[44:35] anything else.

[44:37] I don't think so. I like we

[44:39] have a nice set of, um, kind of

[44:41] fixed items that really handle

[44:43] what we have been talking

[44:45] about.

[44:45] So they're pretty evergreen.

[44:46] Yeah. And, uh, and I mean, you

[44:48] know, again, it's if you look

[44:50] from the past, you know, some,

[44:51] some past, like we were talking

[44:54] about membership and now we

[44:55] have a full board. We were

[44:57] talking about, you know, we

[44:58] could still use a couple of

[44:59] alternate members, in fact.

[45:00] But, you know, like, the things

[45:02] that were action items are, are

[45:04] getting done, um, even though,

[45:06] you know, it's may not be

[45:07] perfectly as fast as we would

[45:08] like, but, you know, making

[45:09] progress. So I am always of the

[45:11] mindset that if we're moving

[45:12] forward, you know, we're we're

[45:14] doing our job and we're getting

[45:15] in good shape..

[45:15] Is that a curious because I'm

[45:17] not sure that if somebody was

[45:19] interested me, an alternate

[45:20] member, they would attend our

[45:21] meetings, but they wouldn't

[45:22] vote unless somebody was

[45:23] absent. Is that how.

[45:24] That I believe that's how it

[45:25] works. So they contribute to

[45:27] the meeting. They, um, you

[45:29] know, they are there and

[45:31] helpful and understand and have

[45:32] been present. And then if if

[45:34] anybody is missing, then they

[45:35] would, they would take the

[45:36] vote.

[45:36] Yeah. But I think the nature of

[45:38] our committee is it's mostly

[45:39] the discussion and the

[45:40] brainstorming and, and that. So

[45:42] I don't think.

[45:42] There's not a lot there's not a

[45:43] lot of votes.

[45:44] Right.

[45:44] We're not per.

[45:45] Se we're not.

[45:46] So, so right. So having a

[45:48] having a couple alternate

[45:50] members would be very helpful

[45:51] because it would add it would

[45:52] add to the, you know, it would

[45:53] add to the soup I think. And

[45:55] uh, and so I'm definitely

[45:57] amenable..

[45:58] And a two that.

[45:59] Were two is two is what we can

[46:01] have I think.

[46:02] Okay.

[46:02] Um, um, so any other future

[46:06] agenda items that.

[46:09] I know.

[46:11] All right. Items are not

[46:12] reasonably anticipated at the

[46:13] time of posting. I've got one.

[46:14] Okay. Um, so, uh, people of

[46:17] Groveland, uh, we now have been

[46:20] assigned to our intended to be

[46:22] assigned as members of

[46:23] committees in town. Uh, town

[46:25] emails. Uh, so it is my

[46:28] understanding that everybody

[46:29] who is on a board or committee,

[46:31] um, gets a, gets a town email.

[46:33] And so it's generally speaking

[46:35] and it may not be universally

[46:36] this way. Um, first initial

[46:40] last name at Groveland may.

[46:45] Yep. Right. And so, um, if

[46:49] you're looking to get a hold of

[46:50] people, the idea is now that,

[46:53] um, you should be using the

[46:54] Groveland Mass websites instead

[46:56] of people's personal emails.

[46:58] Uh, it's just smoother and a

[47:00] little more collaborative. And,

[47:02] uh, we're working out the

[47:03] kinks, but, uh, collectively,

[47:06] um, but I think we're we're

[47:08] going to be trending toward

[47:09] that. And so certainly, um, if

[47:11] you're wondering why an email

[47:13] responded to or things along

[47:14] those lines, there's a little

[47:16] bit of uptake happening. So,

[47:17] uh, try to use the first

[47:20] initial last name at Groveland,

[47:22] Ma, uh, for anybody that you

[47:25] want to get Ahold of.

[47:27] Have they said if they're going

[47:28] to do, like an alias like

[47:30] recreation committee at

[47:31] Groveland, Ma, that goes to all

[47:33] of us, because that would be

[47:35] handy.

[47:36] That sounds, uh, that sounds

[47:37] above my pay grade. As far as

[47:39] tech discussions, but I know

[47:41] you could talk to about that.

[47:43] And I know she would have

[47:44] something to say for sure. So,

[47:45] uh, I welcome you to to begin

[47:48] that discussion.

[47:49] I just because it seems silly

[47:50] to make people type in five

[47:52] emails.

[47:53] Yep. Right. No. True. Um.

[47:55] So we don't reply all and

[47:57] discuss.

[47:57] Right? Exactly. Well, no.

[47:59] Again. And you know.

[48:00] Well, do we we have to reply

[48:02] all though, right?

[48:03] Well, so no, uh, so.

[48:06] No, no, no, it's the opposite.

[48:07] You're right. It's the, it's

[48:08] you have to reply one.

[48:10] Lie only to you.

[48:12] Right. Because the whole, the

[48:13] whole point is, is and it bears

[48:15] repeating because it's

[48:16] something that goes that's at

[48:18] every committee and every board

[48:19] is if there's a discussion that

[48:21] disseminates from the the chair

[48:23] of the board or the committee,

[48:25] um, if you start having reply

[48:27] calls and it's like you're

[48:28] having a meeting when you're

[48:29] not having a meeting, uh,

[48:31] that's available to the public.

[48:33] And so the idea is, yes,

[48:35] there's information that can be

[48:36] exchanged outside of the

[48:37] public's eye. But when we all

[48:39] talk about something, it's

[48:40] supposed to be in a form where

[48:42] everybody can get together.

[48:43] Now, there's a there's a grand

[48:44] total of zero folks here.

[48:46] Yeah.

[48:47] So it's, you know, in practice

[48:49] right now, not an issue. But,

[48:51] um, maybe someday that'll

[48:53] change and maybe more people

[48:54] will come in and maybe more

[48:55] people will will use the zoom

[48:56] link as well. And that would be

[48:57] too.

[48:57] I would think that part of the

[49:00] purpose of having the town

[49:01] emails is so that any discourse

[49:04] can become part of the public

[49:06] record.

[49:06] Sure.

[49:07] And if that is the case, then

[49:11] you know, that type of thing

[49:13] would be like almost, you know,

[49:18] uh, in the military we say OB,

[49:21] but what the what's.

[49:22] An overcome by events?

[49:23] Yes.

[49:23] What's a. normal way to say

[49:25] that.

[49:26] Right. Well, I think it's like

[49:27] the there's the two sides of

[49:28] the public record piece, but

[49:29] there's also the open meeting

[49:30] law piece.

[49:30] Right.

[49:31] Okay. And that's I think

[49:32] specifically where we can't

[49:33] have any we can I can send the

[49:35] meeting minutes that we're

[49:36] going to review, but we can't

[49:38] have a back and forth on what

[49:40] our mission statement.

[49:41] That okay. Right. Right, right.

[49:42] And and if it goes from person

[49:45] to chair and a person to chair

[49:47] and person to chair, that's

[49:48] okay. As we're sort of trying

[49:50] to formalize the things so that

[49:51] we can maybe vote on it. Right.

[49:53] But if it's like, hey

[49:55] everybody, what do you think?

[49:56] And then everybody's, you know,

[49:58] it starts going, you know, from

[50:01] lateral that it's that it's

[50:02] problematic.

[50:03] And then I guess at that point,

[50:04] like it could get to the point

[50:05] where you're having discussions

[50:06] and then you show up at the

[50:07] meeting and you just have the

[50:08] vote. And like.

[50:09] That's what it's designed to

[50:10] prevent.

[50:10] Right. Exactly.

[50:11] So yeah.

[50:12] Right. And and I mean, we're

[50:15] watching these videos, I can

[50:16] tell you this, this committee

[50:18] does does a good job of vetting

[50:19] things out. And, you know,

[50:21] having hashing all their

[50:22] thoughts out in the open. And

[50:23] it's, uh, it's a it's a good

[50:25] forum that way. So, uh, people

[50:27] of grumbling feel free to come

[50:28] to any recreation meeting. We

[50:30] publicize these things. You

[50:31] certainly can be there. And if

[50:32] it's if it's a hassle, we

[50:34] understand we all have lives to

[50:35] remember. We're volunteers,

[50:37] even though we have Groveland,

[50:38] Massachusetts emails now. Um,

[50:41] we're all volunteers. So, you

[50:43] know, we understand busy. And

[50:44] you certainly can use the zoom

[50:45] link and, you know, do all the

[50:47] things that you would do at

[50:48] home anyway. So, um, with that,

[50:51] any other items not reasonably

[50:53] anticipated?

[50:53] That makes me think of a

[50:54] question regarding the two

[50:55] previous thing. If a quorum of

[50:58] this committee is attending the

[51:00] CPC meeting, do we just have to

[51:03] be careful, or do we have to

[51:04] declare it also a recreation

[51:06] committee meeting?

[51:08] It's not because when you go to

[51:11] your CPC meeting, you're not

[51:12] going as a member of the

[51:13] recreation committee, you're

[51:15] going as a proponent of a

[51:16] project. You're an individual.

[51:17] You're you're a town

[51:18] individual. So I don't see

[51:19] there being any any issue with,

[51:22] you know, uh, the fact that

[51:24] three to 3 to 5 of it, we're

[51:26] not conducting committee

[51:27] business. Right. We're you

[51:29] you're an individual with an

[51:30] individual project. Okay. That

[51:31] is encouraged and sanctioned by

[51:34] the recreation committee, for

[51:35] sure. But at the same point,

[51:36] it's not a recreation committee

[51:38] project. Um, so I think you're

[51:41] wearing your individual hat. I

[51:42] think it shouldn't be a

[51:43] problem. But I mean, you know,

[51:45] fair, fair question to ask.

[51:46] Anyway.

[51:47] Um, I also have a question

[51:48] about this is, um, this is a

[51:50] new to New England. I've never

[51:52] been to a town meeting before.

[51:53] No, nowhere. I grew up, had

[51:55] town meetings.

[51:56] Um.

[51:58] Is like, ah, does each

[52:00] committee do, like, a report at

[52:02] that meeting? Like, would we be

[52:04] expected to, like, bring

[52:05] something to that meeting, or

[52:07] is it just kind of like

[52:08] election y stuff.

[52:09] Like, so what happens just

[52:11] just, you know, so, you know,

[52:13] and it's it was new to me when

[52:14] I moved to town also a few

[52:15] years back. So don't feel don't

[52:17] feel bashful about about it.

[52:19] Um, the what happens at town

[52:21] meeting is there are there's a

[52:23] warrant and the warrant has

[52:25] these are the articles that are

[52:27] up for discussion and vote.

[52:29] Okay. And so the the town gets

[52:32] to vote on things like the

[52:34] budget and gets the vote on,

[52:35] you know, what are we going to

[52:36] do about, you know, are we

[52:37] going to buy this piece of

[52:38] land. Are we going to accept

[52:39] this project. Are we going to

[52:41] for for the CPC specific

[52:43] things? Are we going to fund

[52:44] these projects? You know, and

[52:46] so it's a thumbs up or thumbs

[52:48] down and, you know, like, you

[52:49] know, people can propose

[52:50] amendments and, you know, so

[52:52] there's each of the warrant

[52:54] articles is like, um, it's kind

[52:56] of like a ballot initiative,

[52:58] right? Is the way that I would

[52:59] sort of explain it to somebody

[53:01] who hadn't seen one. And so

[53:02] it's like, do we want to do

[53:04] this? And there'll be people

[53:05] that can speak in favor,

[53:06] there'll be people that can

[53:07] speak against. And then, you

[53:08] know, eventually the discussion

[53:10] happens and then there's a

[53:11] vote. So, um, it's not that the

[53:15] Recreation Committee would

[53:16] like, have in our particular

[53:17] situation like, uh, you know,

[53:19] like a presentation that we

[53:20] have to make, um, you know, if

[53:23] there's a particular, um, what

[53:27] will happen is various boards

[53:30] and committees will take a

[53:30] position on a, on an article

[53:33] and say, you know, okay,

[53:34] finance supports this. And, you

[53:36] know, CPC supports this

[53:38] project, you know, supports

[53:40] this project. Select board is

[53:41] in favor so that folks have an

[53:43] idea of what the people in, you

[53:45] know, what the boards and town

[53:46] sort of think about these

[53:47] things. So it helps them to

[53:49] say, okay, well, you know, this

[53:50] is something that, you know,

[53:51] seems to make financial sense

[53:53] and it's not, you know, uh, you

[53:54] know, gotcha. An albatross or

[53:56] something. But, uh, it's, you

[53:58] know, uh, it's an interesting

[54:01] it's an interesting couple of

[54:02] hours, I'll tell you that for

[54:03] sure. And, um, you in

[54:06] Groveland. In groveling, you

[54:07] need 100 people to have a

[54:09] quorum. And a couple of years

[54:11] ago was tight. We're getting

[54:12] better at, um. I was part of

[54:14] the committee that, uh, that,

[54:16] um, you know, was formed to try

[54:19] to encourage, you know, what

[54:20] kind of things can we do to

[54:21] encourage attendance and things

[54:22] like that? Um, but I think

[54:24] we're getting more attendance

[54:26] each year. Um, over the last

[54:28] couple. Um, but it is I

[54:30] encourage everyone to attend.

[54:32] And, you know, this is where

[54:33] you're really your voice really

[54:35] matters. Because if we are a

[54:37] town of 6500 people or so and

[54:40] 120 show up to vote on the

[54:42] thing, you know, to vote on a

[54:44] $20 million budget. You know, I

[54:46] mean, I think, you know, you

[54:47] gotta you got to have some skin

[54:49] in the game. Yeah. You know,

[54:51] you should get down there and

[54:52] be a part of it. Um, so.

[54:54] So where to, where do the,

[54:56] like, budget requests for that

[54:58] budget that gets voted on come

[55:00] from? And specifically, I guess

[55:02] the point of the question is

[55:04] like for say, we wanted to do

[55:07] something and we needed a

[55:08] budget for the next fiscal year

[55:09] or whatever, like where when at

[55:11] one point, one point would we

[55:12] request that? Where would that

[55:13] go in? Like how would we get

[55:15] that submitted?

[55:15] Well, so I think if if the

[55:17] recreation committee wanted to

[55:19] get some money to do a thing,

[55:21] um, not necessarily like a PC

[55:23] project, I think we would have

[55:25] to reach out to the select

[55:26] board. I think we would have to

[55:27] reach out to the town manager.

[55:28] I think we would have to reach

[55:29] out to finance. I think

[55:30] depending on what the topic

[55:32] was, maybe, maybe we'd need to

[55:34] reach out to like the

[55:34] Conservation Commission if

[55:35] there was something about, you

[55:36] know, those sorts of things. So

[55:37] it would depend on what the

[55:38] project was. But I mean, the

[55:42] the general answer is you're

[55:43] probably gonna have to reach

[55:43] out to a lot of folks if

[55:44] there's some sort of if there's

[55:46] an earmark you want to get. Um,

[55:48] one thing that I learned that I

[55:50] didn't know coming in to all of

[55:52] this was, uh, not all pots of

[55:56] money are accessible for all

[55:57] things. And money for this has

[56:00] to go into this pocket, and

[56:01] money for that has to go into

[56:03] that bucket. And you can't

[56:04] necessarily mix them and

[56:05] intermingle them. And there are

[56:07] rules about how how things have

[56:09] to get bid. So, um, it's not

[56:11] always so simple as I need

[56:13] money from this. Take it from

[56:14] the general fund, you know.

[56:16] Yeah, I work in government

[56:17] contracting. I know. about

[56:19] colors of money.

[56:20] Well.

[56:20] I don't know. I do not, and so

[56:23] I would love to read about it

[56:24] individually when I'm not

[56:25] wearing my hat as a recreation

[56:27] board.

[56:28] It's not.

[56:28] Fun.

[56:29] , like, you know, it's not fun.

[56:31] It's never fun.

[56:32] So, um.

[56:33] Okay, so it's not like there's

[56:35] not a point at which, like, the

[56:36] select board puts out a request

[56:38] to all the committees to say,

[56:39] like, put in your budget

[56:40] requests for the next year.

[56:41] That doesn't happen.

[56:42] Well, okay. It hasn't it hasn't

[56:45] in our budget currently for

[56:46] this committee is zero. Yeah.

[56:48] It has been since I've been a

[56:49] member. So I mean, if.

[56:50] We reach out to town

[56:51] departments for that and the

[56:53] town administrator coordinates

[56:54] that and they have hearings in

[56:55] front of the finance committee

[56:57] for that, but, ah, yeah, we're

[56:59] advisory. So if we were to like

[57:01] going back to the idea of like

[57:03] scanning the QR code to donate,

[57:04] if we ended up saying, oh, we

[57:06] need a revolving fund for trail

[57:07] maintenance, and the donations

[57:09] go into that, and when we can

[57:10] help decide where that is

[57:12] expended, that would be

[57:13] something that would have to be

[57:14] approved by town meeting and

[57:16] all that sort of stuff. I think

[57:18] we haven't gotten to that

[57:20] point. And but when the

[57:21] recreation committee used to

[57:23] run the town, the summer pro,

[57:26] the summer camp program, there

[57:27] was a revolving fund for that,

[57:29] and there was money allocated.

[57:31] So I think there was a history

[57:32] at one point where this

[57:33] recreation committee did have

[57:35] essentially control over some

[57:36] of that money, even though it

[57:37] was the the town itself was the

[57:39] actual administrator of those

[57:40] funds. We don't have a fiscal

[57:43] role.

[57:44] Right. It makes sense

[57:45] currently.

[57:46] Right. Currently.

[57:47] And and I mean, the other piece

[57:49] of it is a lot of this stuff is

[57:50] fluid. So the Select board is

[57:52] interested in hearing what we

[57:53] have to say about things. And,

[57:54] you know, as as the town grows

[57:56] and develops, who knows? You

[57:58] know, a recreation department

[58:00] might be an appropriate thing

[58:01] at some point. Um, I don't

[58:03] think we're there quite yet.

[58:04] Yeah. Um, but you never know.

[58:07] Um, so is that helpful?

[58:11] Yes. Thank you.

[58:12] That is.

[58:12] Helpful.

[58:13] Awesome. Uh, anybody have

[58:15] anything else? I do? Uh, let's

[58:18] talk about the next meeting. I

[58:19] would like to get it in front

[58:21] of Pumpkin Fest. Um, so I was

[58:24] sort of targeting October 8th.

[58:27] Um, I did check with Emilio,

[58:29] and he says that works for him,

[58:30] too. He can also make the 15th

[58:32] work if need be, but I would

[58:34] kind of prefer the eighth. But

[58:35] I can also do the 15th or

[58:37] either of those dates. Okay.

[58:39] Either of those.

[58:39] Dates.

[58:41] Yeah.

[58:42] Yeah, I can.

[58:44] Do I yeah, I think that the

[58:45] eighth would be preferable.

[58:47] Preferable.

[58:48] But let's do it. Let's, let's

[58:50] set it for the eighth.

[58:51] Everybody put it in your

[58:51] calendar.

[58:52] It gives.

[58:52] Us the.

[58:52] 15th in case it has the slot.

[58:54] Right. Putting it in right now.

[58:55] No it's good, it's good. This

[58:57] is, this is again we're we're

[58:59] working towards something. Uh,

[59:01] recreation Committee.

[59:02] 7:00 works well for me. If it

[59:04] works well for.

[59:05] Yeah.

[59:05] Yeah, exactly. So. And that's

[59:08] October 8th, and I will make

[59:10] sure that I'm on top of getting

[59:12] the getting the agenda out. All

[59:24] right. We're getting there,

[59:27] folks. Um, all right, so the

[59:33] we, uh, we've set the next

[59:36] meeting for Thursday, October

[59:38] 8th at 7 p.m. in this room. Um,

[59:42] anything else from anybody?

[59:45] Um.

[59:46] I don't have anything either.

[59:47] I'll entertain a motion to

[59:48] close at 8:03 p.m..

[59:50] I'll make a motion to close at

[59:51] 803.

Recreation Committee 9/3/2026

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