[0:39] good afternoon everyone I'd like to call to order the

[0:41] July nineteenth twenty twenty hearing of the Guelph committee of

[0:45] adjustment all committee members staff and applicants are attending this

[0:49] electronic hearing remotely this hearing is being held remotely do

[0:53] to cope with nineteen

[0:55] and is being live streamed and recorded please be advised

[0:59] that that public hearings for part of the public record

[1:02] and the words names or images of those participating will

[1:05] be recorded and posted online before we see that access

[1:10] the secretary treasurer to confirm attendance at the committee members

[1:14] by roll call

[1:20] thank you ma'am care

[1:22] member countries has is that he will not be in

[1:24] attendance for the rest of the committee members I will

[1:28] be reading your number your names out loud when you

[1:30] see your name please I'm yourself and risk on present

[1:36] chair ash

[1:44] amber Dykstra

[1:46] I don't believe that is here

[1:53] number can take

[1:54] here

[1:58] number tennis

[2:03] here

[2:06] member meets

[2:11] Jerash is here I don't think we heard it already

[2:15] action action she was talking

[2:18] sh I present

[2:25] and member Smith

[2:28] present

[2:31] thank you it looks like all members are present aside

[2:34] from member Dykstra member country

[2:38] okay then before I get lazy hearing format I wanted

[2:42] to make note that what will be shown on the

[2:44] screen for those viewing at home is a remote hearing

[2:47] platform whereby whoever is speaking will be shown predominately with

[2:52] smaller images of the members and staff attending along the

[2:55] bottom of the screen

[2:57] as you consider each application it will take some time

[3:00] and there and there may be some extent deposits staff

[3:03] in attendance in may need to interrupt the hearing as

[3:06] the need arises so we ask for your patience as

[3:09] we navigate the electronic hearing format the agenda for this

[3:13] hearing has been posted online Act wealth dot CA forward

[3:17] slash CO day

[3:19] if you want to to follow along please feel free

[3:22] to access it now

[3:24] ... you might all committee members staff and applicants participating

[3:28] in the hearing to please mute your microphone when not

[3:31] in use to reduce feedback

[3:34] I also would like to share the hearing format we

[3:37] will be using to navigate through each application each application

[3:41] will be creek called by the secretary treasurer and the

[3:44] applicant will be given an opportunity to add anything further

[3:47] to their application to a maximum of ten minutes if

[3:52] you are an applicant and have nothing further to add

[3:54] then you can simply say so the committee will then

[3:57] be able to ask questions to the applicant or staff

[4:01] after that we will hear from members of the public

[4:04] who wish to comment on the application please note that

[4:07] all comments should be addressed through the chair please avoid

[4:10] repeating concerns already stated by others and focus on adding

[4:14] new information only comments are limited to ten minutes or

[4:18] less any members of the public who have submitted a

[4:21] request to speak prior to the hearing will be the

[4:24] first invited to provide comments by a telephone

[4:28] I've confirmed with the secretary treasurer that there have been

[4:31] no request received prior did started a hearing to speak

[4:34] to any of the applications listed on the agenda

[4:38] we do have a request received into for minor variance

[4:41] application eight twenty two slash twenty for forty five four

[4:46] five five Watson parkway north and this request will be

[4:50] addressed after the opening remarks are concluded for all other

[4:54] applications listed on the agenda no deferral of withdrawal requests

[4:59] were received prior to the start of today's hearing additionally

[5:02] if you wish to speak to an application and have

[5:05] not submitted a request in advance of the hearing you

[5:08] will still be given an opportunity to unity to speak

[5:11] by calling five one nine eight two two one two

[5:15] six zero extension two five two four

[5:19] and you will receive instructions on how to participate for

[5:22] each application following the committee members questions to the applicant

[5:26] or staff and any members of the public who have

[5:29] registered to speak in advance we will take a brief

[5:32] three minute break to display the call in number for

[5:36] any residents wishing to call in

[5:39] once all comments from the public have been heard the

[5:41] applicant or staff will be given the opportunity to respond

[5:45] to comments finally I'll turn to the committee for a

[5:48] motion and deliberation as well as a vote on the

[5:51] application at this hearing is being held remotely there are

[5:55] some procedural changes regarding how the committee will vote because

[6:00] members of the public will be able to see all

[6:03] the members of the committee on the screen at one

[6:05] time when the committee is making a decision on an

[6:08] application I'll be asking the secretary treasurer to conduct the

[6:12] vote by roll call the secretary treasurer we'll call each

[6:16] of the members names and each member will respond if

[6:19] they are in favor or opposed to the motion and

[6:22] I will announce the results of the vote

[6:28] if you wish to receive a copy of the decision

[6:30] on an application including information about the appeal procedure you

[6:34] must submit a written request

[6:37] and it's noted on the screen for you a great

[6:41] request can be made by contacting staff using the contact

[6:44] information shown on the screen

[6:46] receive a copy of the decision please email COA at

[6:51] wealth dot CA with your name and the file number

[6:54] you are interested in please note that owners and applicants

[6:58] automatically receive a copy of the decision

[7:06] at this point I will ask committee members are there

[7:09] any disclosures of pecuniary interest in so please raise your

[7:12] hand

[7:16] seeing none

[7:17] can I now get the members to moved and seconded

[7:20] provable of the minutes from the previous hearing on June

[7:23] eleventh twenty twenty

[7:25] we will travel thank you that was the member Kendrick

[7:30] do I have a second ...

[7:33] back in December okay I saw a member at needs

[7:37] at hand first okay ...

[7:41] and then I'll raise your hands

[7:44] if you're in agreement with that

[7:47] okay the minutes are approved

[7:49] it's carried

[7:52] at this time last the secretary treasurer to curtain for

[7:54] McKinney request was brought for different application has been received

[7:58] from many of the applicants

[8:00] thank you

[8:05] thank you madam chair as noted in the comments package

[8:08] that was posted last Friday I can confirm that we

[8:10] received a deferral request from the applicant for minor variance

[8:14] file eighteen dash twenty two slash twenty four for fifty

[8:18] five Watson parkway north

[8:21] I also want to note that correspondence with receipts after

[8:24] the comment deadline from Amelia or to on better Sarah

[8:28] Bonnen and stuff on lock with concerns about the application

[8:33] this correspondence has been circulated to the applicant staff and

[8:36] the committee members

[8:38] in regards to the deferral request I believe that applicant

[8:41] Joe lactose impressive to address this request

[8:48] thank you committee members can I get a motion to

[8:51] defer if so please raise your hand

[8:57] a motion to have further by member Janice

[9:01] well secondary

[9:04] number meets

[9:06] there's no discussion so all those in favor of the

[9:09] deferral

[9:11] please raise your hands

[9:14] okay the deferral is carried thank you

[9:22] secretary treasurer did you want to record that vote

[9:27] if I could that would be great and I okay

[9:30] the applicant is here and he wants to address that

[9:33] request

[9:51] J. O. and you can and you yourself

[9:56] hello

[9:57] hi junior Cameron

[10:01] okay

[10:05] hello

[10:07] wait there you go

[10:10] if you'd like to address them

[10:14] verification of the motion

[10:16] no not really we're just ... requesting deferral to begins

[10:20] the planning further on the on the site plan application

[10:25] reported to deferred until that matters taken care of

[10:30] okay I will turn it over to the secretary treasurer

[10:33] doubt to folks

[10:38] thank you chair gonna run through the list of the

[10:41] committee members and I'll just ask if you're in favor

[10:44] of the deferral or not

[10:48] share ash

[10:50] through the deferral

[10:54] remember Kendrick

[10:56] they were

[10:59] number Janice

[11:04] in favor

[11:07] number means

[11:12] and member Smith

[11:14] in favor

[11:18] she the motion differ carry

[11:32] so your application has been deferred

[11:35] ... for the applicant I remind you that you're free

[11:37] to leave a hearing if you wish a reminder for

[11:41] members of the public watching the minor variance application for

[11:44] for fifty five Watson parkway north has been deferred back

[11:48] to the committee for consideration at another time

[12:15] never Janice

[12:19] I know that on the request for deferral B. applicant

[12:22] also requested that this be something about the sea I

[12:27] wonder are we going to be discussing this at all

[12:31] I believe that would be addressed at the when it

[12:34] comes back

[12:35] to us

[12:40] that's correct share will address that request when the application

[12:44] comes back so we can make sure that request is

[12:47] on the agenda

[13:09] the next application is filed eight dash twenty eight slash

[13:12] twenty

[13:14] side yard setback variance for proposed accessory structure detached garage

[13:18] at one hundred Fleming road

[13:23] with the applicant or applicants are present if so can

[13:26] you please state your name and your relationship to the

[13:28] application

[13:32] my name is ray Arsenio and I am the owner

[13:36] thank you

[13:40] hi with the site posted as per the planning act

[13:43] requirements yes it was and did you receive staff comments

[13:47] yes I did

[13:49] do you wish to add anything further to your application

[13:52] I I would like to if that's okay okay and

[13:55] you have up to ten minutes to address committee

[13:58] ... I I noticed on the road one of the

[14:01] recommendations I believe it came from engineering and it was

[14:05] pertaining to the drive way that it shows on the

[14:06] drawing ... my wife and I have decided not to

[14:10] put a driveway ... at the side of the house

[14:14] ... so I'm asking if that recommendation can be ...

[14:18] but maybe revolves to removed and you know it maybe

[14:22] in a year from now if we decide that we

[14:24] want to put that ... driveway in an Odyssey we

[14:28] would follow that recommendation and apply for the Kerr cutting

[14:31] permit and pay the associated fees that were made I

[14:36] I think it's the city what other not that's that's

[14:39] all have

[14:41] Preston

[14:43] can you answer that

[14:45] yes three chair yeah that's fine the the reason for

[14:48] this condition was that the site plan drawings showed the

[14:52] new access as well as they showed that that should

[14:57] or will be used as a garage one point ...

[15:00] so that's why those conditions were put in but if

[15:02] that's not the intent to of of the applicant in

[15:05] those conditions can be removed

[15:09] that's great

[15:11] okay so that's conditions 2 and 3

[15:14] I believe so yes thank you okay

[15:18]

[15:20] committee members give any questions for the applicant or stuff

[15:22] yes committee member Smith

[15:27] three you'd share to staff I just want a little

[15:31] clarity on the zoning ... if this was an attached

[15:36] garage

[15:37] what we are with a set back a one point

[15:41] five meters ... the secession or is it just us

[15:48] it seems to me that are

[15:51] it seems that

[15:53] we have no issue you have no issues with the

[15:57] I'm just curious if

[15:59] one point five meters would be ... sufficient which wasn't

[16:02] much ...

[16:07] through the chair that this is a little bit of

[16:09] a different situation because the property is actually zoned urban

[16:12] lancer ... and urban reserve ... is someone I've been

[16:17] in terms of will and ... there are some lands

[16:19] in the city that are still zoned urban reserve and

[16:22] they were put in that zoning category back in nineteen

[16:25] ninety five when the zoning bylaw is complacent oftentimes it

[16:28] was because there is an insufficient information at the time

[16:31] to put men appropriate zoning category ... or their lands

[16:36] without municipal services so if if this property was actually

[16:39] is ... and like a residential so like an R.

[16:42] one and B. or C. it that and it was

[16:46] an attached garage it would just be a requirement the

[16:48] setback for there's only so safe it was an R.

[16:50] one B. ... it would be a one point five

[16:53] meter step back if it was attached if it wasn't

[16:56] if in a residential zone accessory buildings or structures are

[17:00] only required if they are detached ...

[17:04] wait six meters from a lot line so it's because

[17:08] of the urban reserve zone which is why the

[17:12] bear setback is required

[17:18] thank you I'm doing

[17:21] are there any other questions from committee members

[17:28] okay

[17:32] ... if the door other further questions I'll ask for

[17:34] comments from members of the public as noted at the

[17:37] start of the hearing we have not received any request

[17:39] from the public to speak to this application in advance

[17:42] of the here

[17:44] before moving into bait to debate and discussion we will

[17:47] take a three minute break so many members of the

[17:49] public watching from home who wish to speak to this

[17:52] application which is file number

[17:57] 828 slash 20

[17:59] so you can call then I does that all hearing

[18:02] participants ensure that your microphones are muted during the break

[18:06] thank you

[21:28] through the chair I can confirm that we didn't receive

[21:30] any delegation requests

[21:33] thank you very much the committee will now begin to

[21:36] discuss the application to make a decision but this point

[21:39] there are no further questions or discussions with the applicant

[21:42] did those in attendance committee members do you wish to

[21:45] make a motion so please raise your hand

[21:49] yes member Kendrick

[21:52] what was conditions

[21:55] I think there is some discussion

[21:57] with respect to conditions 2 and 3

[22:01] delete conditions to ensure it is time

[22:05] Dr seconded that motion

[22:12] sorry I

[22:14] okay thank you member needs I didn't see year on

[22:17] the second screen here

[22:19] okay then

[22:35] is there any did okay sorry member Smith is there

[22:37] any discussion on the motion yes

[22:43] you have to admit yourself sorry I had double needed

[22:46] it ... I just have a question about deleting those

[22:50] two conditions fully I'm wondering if it be more appropriate

[22:54] to amend them so that ... it would read in

[22:59] engineering services are comment number three take away the word

[23:04] prior and ... change it to something like

[23:10] at the time of application for a building permit as

[23:14] I I'm I'm just fearful that if we take away

[23:16] that condition than ... and maybe staff can comment on

[23:21] this ...

[23:23] it might need the City liable to make that Herb

[23:27] **** at the city's expense

[23:32] do you have a comment from staff

[23:34] through you chair arm no I don't think I would

[23:37] be required because if it were to come in for

[23:42] a carp caught or engines Clement we have a separate

[23:45] entrance permit that

[23:47] residents can apply for so

[23:50] they will be applicant ... at that time would be

[23:54] paying for that cost

[23:59] so I I don't think it's needed if the intent

[24:01] is not to construct the driver right now I don't

[24:04] think it's needed

[24:07] thank you

[24:10] okay so we have a motion on the floor with

[24:12] that and we have a

[24:15] motion is made in the cells have been seconded any

[24:17] bad anyone else further discussion on the motion

[24:22] I know as the secretary treasurer to conduct a vote

[24:25] by roll call

[24:31] thank you and I'm chair committee members I'll be reading

[24:33] your names out loud when you hear your name please

[24:36] I'm you yourself and indicate your vote by responding with

[24:39] the words in favor or opposed to indicate your vote

[24:42] on the motion which has to approve with the US

[24:46] one soul condition

[24:50] it's chair ash in favor

[24:54] each member Kendrick in favor

[24:59] member Janice

[25:02] in favor

[25:04] member meets

[25:07] and member Smith in favor

[25:10] she

[25:11] the motion to approve what that one condition carries

[25:19] it's carried your application has been approved with the one

[25:22] condition the applicant I remind you that you're free to

[25:25] leave a hearing if you flash

[25:28] a reminder for those watching if you wish to receive

[25:31] a copy of that decision on an application including information

[25:35] about the appeal procedure you must submit a written request

[25:38] by emailing CNA at Walt dot CA with your name

[25:42] and the file number you're interested in please note that

[25:46] owners an applicant's automatically receive a copy of the decision

[26:14] the next applications are filed B. dash six slash twenty

[26:18] eight twenty nine twenty in a thirty five twenty or

[26:23] twenty five to twenty seven Greenstreet consent to create a

[26:26] new residential lot and variances to permit reduced lot area

[26:29] and front yard setbacks for the severed and retain parcels

[26:35] thank you I'd like to ask that the applicant or

[26:37] applicants are present if so can you please state your

[26:40] name and your relationship to the application

[26:48] yes my coming for

[26:52] yes

[26:54] I thank you handy thank you good afternoon good afternoon

[26:58] madam chair

[27:00] what

[27:01] yes I just get the site posted on the property

[27:04] as per the planning act requirements yes it was it

[27:08] did you receive staff comments

[27:10] we did

[27:12] add to which had anything for the application and if

[27:15] so you have ten minutes

[27:17] yes thank you I'd like to make a just some

[27:20] brief comments on the application

[27:22] I thank you madam chair members of the committee ...

[27:26] staff and those attending virtually this is an interesting way

[27:30] of doing ... meetings and we appreciate that in the

[27:34] consulting world to move applications along

[27:37] again my name is Hugh Hanna planner with GSP group

[27:41] I'm also joined virtually by a cerakote it was a

[27:45] planner ... that has been working with me on the

[27:47] file

[27:48] our clients ... Zhejiang and Jim to sake ... I

[27:52] think we'll be out in the virtual world maybe also

[27:55] watching this today

[27:57] German ... Jeff and Jim are active developers and builders

[28:00] in the area currently they're involved in the call project

[28:04] in house for which is a condominium development on the

[28:07] on the outskirts of hospital Jim the sappy ... and

[28:09] his wife wrote while offering ... have owned this property

[28:14] since nineteen ninety four and now wish to create a

[28:16] new law under which street for the proposed single detached

[28:19] dwelling

[28:21] and the retained a lot with the existing stone home

[28:26] historically there was a six plex on this property more

[28:29] recently the six Bucks was converted and refurbished to the

[28:32] semi detached which is on green

[28:36] while building plans have not been finalized care has been

[28:39] taken ... inciting the new proposed single detached homes are

[28:44] to be in the same building line with the existing

[28:47] homes on Norwich and will also intended to have a

[28:51] covered porch

[28:53] further the detached garage on the severed will also allow

[28:57] ample off street parking and create a nice courtyard effect

[29:01] ... which we believe in the in the backyard space

[29:05] we believe this is a modest infill development and as

[29:08] appropriate and this has been tried to be sensitive to

[29:12] the neighbourhood it is proposed within

[29:15] the existing home ... is intended to be converted to

[29:19] a single detached dwelling us for the overall redevelopment of

[29:23] the property

[29:25] we have worked closely with planning and engineering staff at

[29:28] the city to bring these applications forward we thank them

[29:32] for their assistance ... as well as Tristan one and

[29:37] leading up to this to this hearing today we have

[29:40] reviewed the staff report and requested conditions with our clients

[29:45] and our encouragement with those that are are printed and

[29:48] before you this afternoon

[29:51] we look for the support of the committee this afternoon

[29:54] on the requested consent and associated variances and if you

[29:57] have any questions I believe Serra is also on here

[30:02] in able to answer anything if

[30:06] can he so desires thank you

[30:09] thank you for your presentation

[30:12] committee members do you have any questions for the applicant

[30:15] is so please raise your hand

[30:21] okay

[30:24] any questions for staff

[30:27] okay

[30:29] if there's no further questions I'll ask for comments from

[30:31] members of the public as noted at the start of

[30:34] the hearing we have not received any cut request for

[30:36] the public to speak to this application in advance of

[30:39] the hearing

[30:40] before moving into debate and discussion will take a three

[30:44] minute break so many any members of the public watching

[30:47] from home who wish to speak to this application which

[30:50] is file numbers B. twenty six slash twenty eight twenty

[30:54] nine size twenty and eighty thirty slash twenty can call

[30:58] in

[31:00] I'd ask that all hearing participants insure that your microphones

[31:02] are muted during this break thank you

[34:31] chair ash I can confirm we didn't receive any delegation

[34:34] requests

[34:37] thank you very much

[34:39] the committee will now begin to discuss the application and

[34:41] make a decision at this point there are no further

[34:44] questions or discussions with the applicant or those in attendance

[34:48] committee members do you wish to make a motion so

[34:50] please raise your hands

[34:53] committee member Anna Smith

[34:56] I'll move with additions

[35:00] okay do I have a second finance

[35:06] committee member Janice okay great

[35:10] I any discussion on the motion

[35:17] okay I will I'm

[35:22] I will now ask the secretary treasurer to conduct the

[35:25] vote by roll call

[35:33] thank you chair committee members I'll be reading your names

[35:36] out loud when you hear your name please I mean

[35:38] yourself and indicate your vote by responding with the words

[35:41] in favor or opposed to indicate your vote on the

[35:44] motion which is to approve with conditions and this is

[35:48] as far as I'm aware approving all three conditions the

[35:51] consent application as well as the two related minor variance

[35:54] applications

[35:57] sh

[35:59] chair ash

[36:00] what conditions

[36:04] she member Kendrick approval

[36:08] number Janice

[36:10] approval

[36:12] member means

[36:16] and member Smith

[36:19] approval

[36:21] she the motion to approve with conditions carries thank you

[36:27] thank you very much Mr Hendy eight ... that's carried

[36:31] your application's been approved ... and if you would like

[36:35] to leave the meeting right now recently thank you thank

[36:39] you very much I'm chair members of the committee thank

[36:42] you thank you

[36:44] I'm not a reminder for those watching if you wish

[36:46] to receive a copy of the decision on an application

[36:50] including information about the appeal procedures you must submit a

[36:53] written request by emailing CNA Act wealth dot CA

[36:59] C. A. with your name and the file number you're

[37:01] interested in please note that owners an applicant automatically receive

[37:05] a copy of the decision thank you

[37:20] the secretary treasurer to address any staff announcements

[37:28] thank you chair I can confirm that we don't have

[37:30] any staff announcements at this time

[37:34] excellent thank you can I get members so it's been

[37:37] moved and seconded German of the hearing if so please

[37:39] raise your hands

[37:42] moved by member Janice Davis second ... moved by member

[37:46] meets

[37:48] and ... just making sure I'm doing this right all

[37:51] those in favor journey please raise your hands

[37:55] I'm supposed to count hands we have a wide two

[37:57] three four five if I

[38:01] okay this hearing is adjourned we'll see you next month

[38:05] thank you guys

[38:07] thank you have a good day

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