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is this meeting real or is it
AI a bit
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both yes it's good old AI right I'm
getting tired of it on every doesn't
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matter what social media or everything
the I know everything you have to click
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you have to a lot of times I have to ask
my kids like is this real is this not
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real like you want to know the weirdest
line AI now knows everything there's
[1:36]
nothing on the internet it doesn't know
it knows everything yeah and it wants to
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respond to everything I think when when
I lose my own intelligence and I can't
[1:44]
respond on my own I'll call on you but
until then I don't need you popping up
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an AI is such a like with my mom's
eulogy I my sister sent me a copy of
[1:54]
hery that she thought she's used and uh
so then I thought well iuse it for my
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reaches and I Wordsmith it right yeah it
is scary how all the information you
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give it and then what you get back from
it is just bizarre how accurate it is
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and it's
yeah well I got a devilment issue check
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like the Alber government yeah last
Monday I deposited it Friday I got a
[2:22]
letter in the mail saying that it was
account check with from my bank account
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so went down to the bank you know what's
going on you know saying well there's
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nothing we can do about it but the way
it is so i ph it was from AG i ph a
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yesterday been probably three hours on
the phone with they said well it's it's
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a legit check like it's you know this
all this AI it'd be nothing to counter
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check that is unbelievable that's how
scary it actually is is yeah it's
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bizarre well and it just like muddling
with your bank accounts I hope mine gets
[3:02]
richer yeah it's doing anything maybe I
can AI I need money the bank took the
[3:09]
money back wow that is it was a
counterfeit check or it was a real
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that's as far as they concerned that's
all the that's as far as they'll go with
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they won't do no more research or
nothing on so but it's so yeah and it's
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how scary as you know if you look at
things Bank Canada orders and they can
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be fake and it's
just think something from government you
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should be legit and should be good you
know
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your anyway we'll call the order at
8:32 motion to accept adop the agenda is
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presented all in favor public
presentations sh Martha no not
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today uh public presentations none
delegation none
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uh yeah I didn't get a chance to write a
report this time they just busy going to
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meetings but one of the things me and
Thomas from harbis Sky we've had several
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meetings this week discussing that
housing uh project that was began maybe
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before I started where there was going
to be three Partners so we had meetings
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with the school board about maybe they
provide that land where the old school
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is that SP can know so they said they're
willing to do that but they want to
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have two resident homes for teachers
there so if there's any development
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that's their goal they want homes for
teachers um so we talked to special
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areas and they're still interested in
taking part of it too so Thomas and I
[4:46]
have a lot of ground work to do and then
once we have more we'll bring that back
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to council what we're up to so yeah I
had several meetings on night so I
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didn't get much time to write much else
so
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you had
your so what's the School Division want
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to return for that land uh they had to
take it to the province first but they
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said it would be a very low to try to
you know I know in another places they
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sound for like a dollar or like $1,000
they sell it very cheap so
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um we'd have to see what they come up
with right and then there's a value to
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that land I think they said it was
115,000 I think they added the that
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so uh I guess if they donate that they'd
want something back towards the building
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of of the homes right they'd want that
as their contribution to to the two
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homes that they
want but we're we're very early days I'm
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figuring this
side just for clarification though right
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now the town of Hannah is doing the
maintenance on that property yeah we are
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mowing we're looking after the sidewalks
we're doing all the meeting as far as
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I'm aware we do it all yeah
and so that timeline has been going on
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for the last three years then or four
years maybe
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longer yeah that's worth discussing and
pointing that out
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to I just think the equivalence of you
know time put in in our energies and
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what has gone into that property
probably is
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yeah have another request regarding
where they they bought that property
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where they keep the the bosses they keep
there they
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and I guess it's been discussed before
Water and
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Sewer so uh eventually that will make
its way back yeah they never actually
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come back with any
requests discussions and there's
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potential but they've
never not to us it'd be nice to see it
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on there D um I also um I have a
question regarding um that project and
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stuff was there a decision then or had
it gone out to tend for for any of the
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um housing Partners I think that's where
it stalled previously was when it was
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decided to go to Tender for it but uh so
it was a good idea but I I think it just
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stalled there and I think we you know we
can get it going I think before the plan
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was to build big homes and I think if
we're going to chase any kind of grant
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money the only grant money that we're
going to get is for
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afford yeah with the short
basically yeah
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for next
St confirming us where we were I wasn't
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quite sure princess
yeah what's wrong with that
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nothing any other questions in
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Matthew we got a B officer yet yes
starting February 3D
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this myi
star it is yeah Chelsea
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canal
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canal she'd be 25 if she got her 911
training and everything and figured out
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that she she didn't want was that it is
okay figured out that 911 wasn't her
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thing and she's b a little bit so she
good that's so she's a former local that
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yeah
nice
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perfect Community yeah uh business
items Mr Matthew okay so I think you all
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know that I'm AB mun has asked me to
present on some AI stuff at the upcoming
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conference I thought I'd give you guys
and you asked for it
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of how we use AI so I'll start with
because you probably all heard a chat
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GPT where you can go in there and just
ask it questions and it will answer
[9:09]
questions but if you look on the the
screen there there's one we created this
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it's called tavan resources so we've
trained this part of
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AI just on our bylaws and policies but
we've not put everything in yet because
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it's kind of time consum so all it knows
it doesn't know anything else other than
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the bylaws and policies that we FedEd so
it would be a resource if we had a
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question specifically regarding the L
bylaw or dog license fees whatever
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information we feed it or policies
that's all it will answer it won't
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answer anything else on the internet
because it doesn't know it just knows
[9:46]
our stuff but um it can only learn from
readable PDFs and a lot of oural bylaws
[9:53]
and policies they in scan PDF so we have
to start converting them to readable PDF
[9:59]
so that you can read them and so if you
had a question about I can't remember
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which BW we put in there but we
definitely put like the animal and the L
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if you had a question I could type it in
and you could see how it
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works so speaking Animal Control how
many dollars can I have in
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to close solar facility he not learn
that
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it only knows what is
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in how about what what pets require a
license or animals what animals require
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a license
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just sing
PS it's not lying to
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you I know I
know so I think this would be good
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especially you know if they come to the
front Des not fully up to speed with all
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our B you could just type it in and ask
says how to build the fence it will
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answer that question for and the more we
input into it the more that it will
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learn I was going to say it's only as
good as yeah and and now it's only I
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think there's like five bylaws that I
found that it could read so it's not
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like I think it's got one old fireworks
byog goes in
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there so how do you prevent it from
picking up any other data like all the
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other AI applications in the world so we
had to create this one and
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that's in the settings there's an option
to block it from going out onto the
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other random
information because when I first set it
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up I was teaching it our but I left it
open for it to search so it was getting
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our stuff and mixing it up with others
so I turned that off to know that's all
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we know just can we allow like could we
allow it could we block the whole
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internet except for our website for
example or Alberta Municipal Affairs or
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and not that that's the best thing
either because those things can have
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inaccuracies is we also I also put the
MGA in it so if you had a question about
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the MGA you would ask it also quot Su
section as well so you don't have to go
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through your V all the time and find
what you're looking for this will that
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is a terribly consuming book
yeah and like I always use the PDF
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because I could search in the PDF but
this takes it to the next step makes it
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easier that whatever you're looking for
like know do you have an MGA question on
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the pressing MGA question Define
conflict of
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interest conflict or
pecuniary conflict they're two different
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like what did I spell it doesn't like
the way you spell
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but you can ask it
to to dumb it down basically to
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summarize
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it so again whatever we teach it it's
going to know and um another good thing
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about chat GPT is if you ever get
attachments in an email and it's a PDF
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that's 20 pages long you I don't want to
read a 20 Page Long PDF you can upload
[14:22]
it to this and ask you to summarize it
for you it we'll provide a summary of
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the 20 Page app that we've been sent can
you scan it into this or it all if you
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look down here at the bottom see that
little it says attach files so you can
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attach files there and then whatever you
attach you can
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say different of Fes yeah there's a scan
like when you scan on a photo and it's
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just a picture of it it won't read them
you have to you know when you save a
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Word document to PDF it was those are
readable so our new copy your do has
[14:59]
that built in now that when you scan it
it it yeah but ocrs which is the re
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versions not as good as this it's
questionable sometimes it it doesn't
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keep all the words in it misses words it
doesn't understand so scans are tricky
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yeah so it's it's better when you go
from word to
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PVF um
so that's that one that we're we're
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teaching it I think would be a good tool
for all staff to use that so they have
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that information available so I have a
question then if all staff have access
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to it who's actually just putting
information into it is there only one
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source one Outlet one person or is it a
conglomerate of people because I think
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that's
where be how we set it yeah I think it's
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me and you s
far other people have access to use it
[15:58]
but we can't put
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ret yeah okay yeah like I to do this
demonstration I had to set up a a second
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account not the account that I use but I
don't have access to change that and
[16:15]
resources I can just view it and use it
but I can edit change
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it so this one here
notebook if you've listened to the
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podcast this is where
we create the podcast room so you can
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feed it information with Google dogs
Google Slides a website YouTube or you
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can paste your own text in there so I
haven't done this one yet we we use a
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website but uh we try
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it is there a is there a disclosure to
stating like if you're getting it off of
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internet um the source and such because
not everything on the internet is yeah
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well when we upload these to YouTube
YouTube knows it's AI created so it also
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puts that tag on okay but when L writes
a little thing it says it's AI generated
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so people are aware so it's gathered
what that information is on there and
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then when you click
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generate T like minute or so this is
where so it's really easy to make the
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podcast and what we do is we take like
staff reports and any events that are
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coming up and we feed that into there
and then it creates that
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podcast
of just a different option of keeping
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residen in for long and it's it's not
it's not over time consuming because
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it's the
information make sure it's it's not made
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any mistakes I guess that's the biggest
thing
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well that's the thing with the um with
the AI in general it's only as good is
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the information to provide to it I know
like I said speeches stuff you still
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have to do a lot of work smithing
to Danny down as I like to call
[18:21]
it I know we took this chat box AI uh
course at the last CF conference I was
[18:26]
at it was like a 4our um teaching from a
young man that was teaching it but wow
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like you can go any it doesn't like I
can tell it today like I want to go to
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such and such a place it will give me
every detail from here to then to there
[18:42]
where I can stop what I can do what I
can eat what I can drink and and it was
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very accurate it's it was almost scary
how you
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know I mean use it for anything yeah and
these are early days like these are very
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watch Terminator like what you right
know but seriously there's they're doing
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this because it's so exciting and it's
doing it's fun and you can hire not as
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educated people because this will fix
your spelling errors but at the end of
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the day just even yesterday they had an
article that they're starting to
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self-replicate already this is just make
sure you protect the data and the the
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structure of the town because as
exciting as this is we have no
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idea if it gets corrupted the damage
that can be caused because everything's
[19:37]
connected yeah and all the stuff that we
fed it is public information we've not
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yeah that's the key thing we've not fed
it anything that's not already on our
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website or Is a public document there
have been different um audio like
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podcast or audio text audio AIS that
we've tested and they're pretty robotic
[20:00]
we found this one to be pretty accurate
and when when you listen to it and you
[20:05]
um think about it being a robot speaking
and the inflection in the words and when
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they take a breath and it's it's pretty
darn realistic which um makes it fun but
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you're right Sandra it's it's fun and
it's going to be like Facebook I
[20:20]
remember my Facebook account when I
first started I was so excited I could
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connect with my cousins and see what
their kids were doing and everybody was
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you know posting that and now it's so
much negativity so it's only a matter of
[20:33]
time before the world figures out and
they already have they'll always be a
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step ahead of the rest of us how to
negatively use well
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and got these people that seem to hack
into everything to um manipulate yeah
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that's usually on that that's usually on
the user it's not the people that hack
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because they're getting in because
because you're allowing well that's what
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I mean yeah so that you know as far as
the security systems and stuff to
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protect your inte and such so all that's
working on that this is like when I
[21:10]
first got into AI it was because of like
making images this was years
[21:15]
ago that this one will create images for
you so I just typed in make a
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promotional poster for the turn of
Hannah there settings here
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of what size you would like to make it
you you can import again I put very
[21:28]
basic things in you but the more
information you give it the more it will
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give you what you
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want and that's under the Ln no this is
a different website called adoram
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there's lots of AI
generation pictures but uh this one does
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really good with text like early days of
AI they struggle with tax if you saw
[21:54]
early images of AI they struggle with
hands and fingers it used to be like 10
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fingers on
Chan so just by that simple text it's
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even got our website it's obviously
search the
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web pictures are quite
accurate but again I didn't beat at any
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other information I just said make a
promotional post for's a Hannah in the
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states too probably it's interesting
though on that first one with the URL
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that it that it P it knew that you
wanted our website but it's also
[22:29]
branding it the way that we were
previous to our branding so it's some
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found that somehow like on in the all
capital
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letters that's old with the www now we
have all lowercase and it's just hannah.
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CA all lowercase previously it was with
the www and the all cap so that's really
[22:47]
interesting to me that it's pulling out
from somewhere find the right place for
[22:52]
using this I think we've only used this
for the graphic on the the podcast I
[22:57]
don't think we've used on
Facebook
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website what I did with the podcast one
is okay so this is what it gave me and
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then I said make it like the couple are
sitting in front of a plate glass window
[23:15]
with background with cow grazing blah
blah blah I got a few red cows had to
[23:19]
refine it some more ran out of free
credits change the colors of their
[23:24]
shirts yeah they kind of limit you on on
stuff like this like I think they give
[23:28]
be 10 credits every day so so what is
the cost then we've just been using the
[23:34]
free versions except for the chat GPT
can't do what we've been doing with it
[23:39]
without P but if you wanted to little
icon top right to that co-pilot is
[23:44]
pretty powerful as well it's Microsoft
version of
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it it because we don't there's an unpaid
and a paid yeah there's like six
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different we're not ready so I give it
this website from our this page from our
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website and I it's created a podcast
based on that
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website Welcome to our Deep dive today
minut we're gonna be taking a look at
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the town of Hannah Alberta okay and you
might be surprised to
[24:16]
learn we're doing it all through their
official website now I know what you're
[24:21]
thinking government websites yeah how
exciting can that
[24:25]
be this one is full of some uh
interesting bits okay for starters yeah
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did you know they allow Urban chickens
in hannahb
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chickens detail it's just that they're
open to blending rural and urban living
[24:41]
in a way that a lot of towns wouldn't
consider
[24:46]
trting their mayor Danny pu okay posts
these updates that are more engaging
[24:53]
than your typical Town announcements but
before we get into those maybe we can
[24:58]
start the bigger picture sure what's the
scope of a municipal government like
[25:02]
Anna so Municipal governments are the
level of government closest to
[25:08]
you things that impact your daily life
in a very direct way the
[25:13]
garbage water roads par even things like
libraries oh so the things we often take
[25:19]
for granted exactly and looking at
Hannah's website yeah they do cover a
[25:23]
wide range of those Services utilities
permits Community programs
[25:29]
business support it's all there okay
they even have a whole section on their
[25:33]
Pioneer Village Museum interesting which
hints at you know a rich local history
[25:38]
yeah what's interesting is how us a
glimpse into priorities they're clearly
[25:44]
promoting a sense of community and
connection to their history but they're
[25:47]
also focused on providing those you know
really practical services for residents
[25:52]
right speaking of practical Services
let's dive into mayor poi's message from
[25:57]
me
about taxes all right he starts off with
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some good news despite Rising costs the
municipal tax rate is actually going
[26:07]
down oh for both residents and
businesses okay but there's a catch
[26:12]
there's always a catch of taxes there of
course if your property value went up
[26:16]
significantly yeah you might still end
up paying more in taxes overall right
[26:21]
the mayor explains it as a balancing act
they managed to keep the total tax
[26:26]
revenue increase under 3%
okay compared to the previous year
[26:30]
that's a common tight rope block for
local governments trying to balance
[26:34]
those necessary services with
affordability great so it's very
[26:38]
conversational interesting thing like
the one that we just posted it add some
[26:43]
inces in it so I had to put it in
another program edit that bit out and
[26:48]
then upload it up so we can't just turn
it out and make it public you just can't
[26:53]
kick it but yeah so we you know I pulled
out about 20 seconds with con but it's
[26:59]
very conversational unless you knew it
was AI you it was real two real people
[27:04]
chatting away it's the same as the ones
that are are seen in the actual video
[27:11]
it's the same voices right yeah you
can't change devices and they say maybe
[27:16]
in the future you can try We'll add more
things where we can just go in and
[27:21]
change the test adding an English
accent maybe get
[27:29]
is the long-term goal of AI so that we
don't have to have people in place we're
[27:32]
going to have we don't have to have this
building we don't have to have this
[27:36]
structure we
canob is learning how to prompt properly
[27:42]
that's it's like you know like right
some people say this is like a cheat
[27:46]
using AI but I think if you go back 30
years or 40 years when people went from
[27:50]
doing our finances year and they were
doing them on paper right and then Excel
[27:55]
came along probably people thought
that's a cheap you get an Excel to do
[27:59]
all these calculations for you and
before that people used an abacus and
[28:03]
they probably thought a calculator was
cheating so like
[28:07]
technology important that you know we
ride that way and we well the other
[28:13]
interesting thing with AI is it takes
emotion out of the takes emotion and
[28:18]
human almost out of that so if Matthew
is replying to a
[28:25]
um unic property I put tically speaking
he can actually go in and it takes out
[28:31]
all the emotion out of it and it's just
a very generic statement almost for I
[28:37]
train to be nice so whenever you give it
something it's it's going to be nice
[28:42]
then you would have to edit it depending
on wanted to be with it be very
[28:47]
sarcastic
yeah they they can do that given if you
[28:51]
put the right prompts in it can change
its personality if response you just
[28:56]
have to know the right prompts to give
it do that so as this is taking time
[29:01]
away from staff then it's just a matter
of trying to find other things for the
[29:07]
staff to do like they could be doing
more on whatever um that had not yeah I
[29:14]
think there's always stuff for staff to
do right it makes them more efficient
[29:19]
and it us especially in communicating
with could you imagine if when on and L
[29:24]
had to sit down and create a podcast on
their own a real one how much
[29:29]
that would take them to do and I'm not
going ruction I'm just saying that it
[29:35]
would give them more opportunities to
get more like do more stuff it would
[29:40]
save time if they had to respond like an
angry resident that they had to craft
[29:46]
the know sometimes you have to bite your
tongue when you're you're replying right
[29:53]
so resolve that issue for you right so
oh yeah those are the I guess the main
[30:00]
things that we use AI for like
the setting up that knowledge base so it
[30:05]
can answer
questions the podcast and a little bit
[30:09]
for the images not
[30:14]
much it's cool and it's scary all in
one yeah and there's new things now that
[30:20]
I've seen videos off where you can give
it a
[30:23]
task and you can watch it research on
the internet and gather information and
[30:27]
it will open up Excel and create an
Excel document for you and so there's
[30:33]
it's it's moving rapidly and well I
guess that's the thing is if you're if
[30:38]
you're not involved in it now in the
development phase uh you know you're
[30:43]
going to be left so far behind yeah if
it does become something that is
[30:48]
competitive your business and and such
well even the technology like with this
[30:54]
deep seek that got kicked off on Monday
whatever it was um is knock the crap out
[31:01]
of
the the American version of AI and and
[31:06]
it's just it's a far cheaper version of
it so it's I mean it's it's evolving
[31:12]
continuously like I can't remember what
the number was it was like4 billion doll
[31:17]
hit to the US economy when deep seek
launched their version of AI and uh I
[31:23]
mean it's
just and then there was a report last
[31:27]
night
[31:30]
um through necessity because the um
creators in the states wouldn't share
[31:36]
some of the information with the Chinese
people and so through necessity Chinese
[31:41]
people come up and built their own
version of it and it appears to be
[31:44]
better and cheaper so it's interesting
how it evolves I mean and that's in a
[31:50]
matter of what three four months
[31:58]
any more questions on AI we
lost just ask them
[32:07]
if I think uh for myself I think it's a
it's a great thing I think it's
[32:12]
something we need to carry on uh
cautiously and and not dive into it head
[32:16]
first and get get into the bottom of the
barrel before we uh get there so yeah
[32:23]
one of the things I've been working on
is because I've seen that in the states
[32:27]
there's a few m IP alties they using and
I think Adon as well where they've
[32:31]
created an AI policy for the
municipality so I've looked what kind of
[32:35]
stuff they put in there and nav units
say a a section on their website if
[32:39]
you're going to create a policy this is
what you should put in it so I'll
[32:42]
probably bring that to next council
meeting um that we have an official and
[32:47]
it's it's just what I said earlier that
no no non-public information is used um
[32:53]
that we knowledge if we put anything out
there that it is AI generated like the
[32:58]
podcast or even if we use an image on
Facebook we would say this is AI
[33:04]
generator that's standard basically for
anything that you take off of somebody
[33:09]
else's you reference it or it's in the
copy yeah we just don't want to mislead
[33:15]
people you
[33:24]
knowk next uh disposition of the 2006
wheelchair called
[33:32]
handy yeah I think you all know we got
that new handy and and the old one uh in
[33:38]
the past I guess it was uh those
donations towards the old one so we just
[33:46]
wanted to see what council's thoughts
were if if we should pass that on if
[33:50]
someone donated to us there might be a
smaller municipality or a you know
[33:55]
a user group that is a need of something
that we could donate it to them just to
[34:02]
you know pass it
along so um I have a just this thought
[34:06]
um and somebody else did mention this
too um and I'm not sure how this works
[34:10]
but they're around Hannah bus that
wascal the local Loop yeah um that's
[34:18]
privately owned right is that is that
correct it's your yeah it's my best so
[34:25]
would that would that be something we
could use for that to support
[34:31]
that it could be used for
there the loop is only on a
[34:37]
Wednesday but this town needs a every
day the town won't subsidize anything
[34:45]
and you can't afford the insurance youd
have to charge $45 a trip to across
[34:53]
town and you wouldn't have no customers
so you can't
[34:59]
your hands
[35:04]
are tax you know and basically all
you're doing is doing
[35:11]
C so because there is um measures in
place to do um the hand Loop can those
[35:19]
measures not
be um
[35:23]
instated um on a broader range on more
days and use that and use that other bus
[35:30]
that we have because we have it and
how's the insurance for
[35:35]
that insurance insurance the town would
have to have the insurance because I
[35:39]
mean you can't afford the insurance
that's but the town's not paying the
[35:42]
insurance on the local Loop bu so
somehow that's obviously generating a
[35:49]
profit and somehow the loop is operating
so how
[35:57]
almost entire it's just a a trial basis
for 18
[36:02]
months and uh if it grows or that you
it's being utilized then it'll continue
[36:10]
on but the the insurance that you have
on your vehicle that you're using on the
[36:17]
Wednesdays is not taxi insurance it's uh
yes it is $7,900 a year w
[36:29]
cheap and to do a
van like a like a
[36:33]
Paran it's 48 was 4800 years well we
looked at it years ago yeah it was
[36:39]
almost 6,000 bucks when I just chose a
15y old put that insurance that vehicle
[36:45]
on their insurance policy probably for
$100 a year you know or 200 whatever
[36:50]
mean any driver at any
time if it's not used as a like right
[36:56]
now the handyman
is just over $5,000 more Insurance in
[37:01]
the
[37:04]
year there won't be much
[37:10]
different I don't know what excuse me I
just had this thought that because it
[37:14]
was in our possession already and we
have this particular entity happening
[37:19]
maybe we could expand upon it with with
the resources we had so I wasn't sure
[37:23]
how that all it could utilized that way
like I mean you know that that's a good
[37:28]
spot and then what they could do is they
could they' have to hire somebody or
[37:34]
whatever from 8 in the morning
till see that's the other thing a cab
[37:40]
you don't really need from 8 to 5 a lot
of people don't they like
[37:48]
at 3:00 morning you know but
so that's a different clientele right oh
[37:55]
yeah the on dur the
day medical necessity right groceries
[38:03]
the people who have real trouble getting
around in the evening people is it
[38:07]
completely different that's the I'll
work on tips that'll work just fine
[38:12]
because it's a different mindset right
and a different economic how does Uber
[38:16]
work does they have to pay the same kind
of insurance or is that covers it
[38:22]
U we were too small to get attention for
Community right
[38:28]
but there's the few those left yeah the
happy
[38:40]
Drive could utilize that maybe somehow
if we had
[38:45]
some
Drive yeah I don't know if the vehicle
[38:50]
is the issue this drive I would imagine
it people it's the people yeah
[38:57]
the drivers yeah well in the same thing
if we were to to re use that V then we
[39:05]
get into licensing as far as the
driver he LIC a taxi then we have to
[39:10]
have class four comtable yeah and uh so
then you're you're very limited as you
[39:16]
can operate Drive the vehicle um as
providing a public service and it would
[39:23]
never you would never pay for so you
know like I mean that's why they're not
[39:30]
private
business insurance up and everything
[39:36]
else
[39:39]
insur well I guess what u a local
entrepreneur would have to do is present
[39:47]
a proposal to the
town uh requesting assistance for
[39:51]
subsidies and bring it to us let us talk
about it I guess would have been four
[39:57]
years ago now we did that just just
didn't AR proposals
[40:03]
and and with the idea that yes if you
want something I mean ask for it if it's
[40:08]
$3,000 a year just straight up and they
have this plan for people pay for there
[40:13]
nothing it just it's so expensive and as
much as it's needed it's not a high
[40:18]
quantity of
need when your time you start your
[40:22]
vehicle half an hour before you go pick
the person up you burn more fuel than
[40:27]
you make absolutely I never mind
covering Wagers or anything you know
[40:31]
they can wear and tear on a vehicle you
know stopping starting stopping going
[40:38]
they're not cleaning one well I
shouldn't say some people aren very
[40:41]
courteous towards the vehicle either so
yeah I know in Bonnyville because you I
[40:46]
was up there for a month it's a $10
flock rate anywhere within Town
[40:51]
limits and uh talk of course they got
two or three different cabs that we talk
[40:56]
to and they're struggling up there well
same thing they've got
[41:00]
two 7500 people and a very large rural
draw as well and uh tried the two
[41:08]
different C companies for this reason
and it's they said it's doesn't even pay
[41:12]
like the one guy said he's he's a lease
operator to the one cab company and he's
[41:17]
he's I'm done he said I thought there
was all kinds of money in this there's
[41:21]
nothing so what we did in no point years
ago with our Ambulance Service and this
[41:25]
could fall along the same Lin
was um the ambulance service no point
[41:31]
was struggling we didn't have enough
volume for them to keep going it private
[41:34]
individual running it and what we did
there was Fred come down and said okay I
[41:40]
need $28,000 a month to break he that's
with insurance and drivers and standby
[41:46]
and so on and so forth and what he ended
up doing for the town of el point was
[41:52]
basically showing us his books and based
on a 3mon cycle
[41:58]
if he was hypothetically speaking he was
25,000 well we give him 3,000 for that
[42:02]
month and the next month if he was
22,000 we have CAU up 6,000 and so on
[42:07]
and so forth but in that three Monon
cycle if he made money then he also paid
[42:11]
it back so I don't know is that
something similar what you looked at K
[42:16]
years we looked at anything everything
of people and there was a couple that
[42:20]
command just through 80 ideas yeah and
it's just so expensive and when you're a
[42:27]
ride every three days it's pretty tough
to turn a profit unless you're G to
[42:31]
charge 250 bucks yeah which of course is
see like the the longterm care and the
[42:40]
lodge they have a handy bus each and the
the lodge also has a caravan that they
[42:48]
charge $10 a trip for any resid that
wants to use it but
[42:57]
staff I don't
think you
[43:01]
know is willing or however you want to
say it to maybe do this you
[43:08]
know well maybe In fairness Council call
they probably don't have somebody
[43:13]
designated to do that they don't so
therefore you're pulling somebody from
[43:18]
the kitchen or from housekeeping or well
no they
[43:22]
have Department that to drive the home
and whatever and then and I think like
[43:28]
the Caravan I'm sure anybody
there it's I remember when I worked at
[43:36]
the hospital I used their little handy
bus or R more than you know prob we did
[43:43]
in ambulance but no the shovel at the
lodge will sit there for
[43:47]
luns they you know they don't utilize it
like I've had requests to take them to a
[43:54]
casino or to a plate like din theater in
the RO whatever you know but you're not
[44:01]
supposed to solicit at the lodge so I
[44:08]
don't you know like the little handy
bus I think kept in town and should be
[44:15]
utilized but how do you do it who's
going to R it who's going to do it you
[44:20]
know just maintaining the the insurance
on it you know is cost as
[44:28]
well you know whole idea of
[44:34]
replacing 15 I can't remember what Brent
said I think Brent had I don't even
[44:39]
think it was that much just yeah with
the lift and everything and I was
[44:46]
thinking it just a ramp yeah yeah I
think Brent said that have like a
[44:51]
two-year lifespan like he didn't think
it was going to last much longer than
[44:54]
two years
see then that's no one does it have to
[45:00]
be inspected restraints have to be
inspected I even if we did that Serv
[45:06]
maybe after two years we'd have to if
that vehicle's run it
[45:10]
slide
updated of replacing
[45:15]
that would that be useful for the hand a
senior
[45:23]
Circle they don't really
[45:31]
no because uh a lot of times we
family
[45:39]
yeah so my personal opinion is that we
you know Pay It Forward maybe at a to a
[45:47]
community that needs it I'm not sure who
will do the assessment of of me person L
[45:53]
but I don't think we need to add more
vehicles to our things that aren going
[45:57]
to be Ed but I think it'd be um remiss
of us not to um offer it to local first
[46:06]
I mean I don't I don't know who local
but I think you know first and foremost
[46:10]
I think um we should offer it to a local
even if a local organization decides
[46:15]
they do want to use it or utilize it I
think um it was donated I think it would
[46:21]
be upon us to to an organization not
individual yeah like a nonprofit yeah
[46:26]
yeah that's easy to put it out there I
think Michelle would have contacts I
[46:29]
think she would be a good person to put
that
[46:32]
out yeah and just see you know if there
is somebody out there within the
[46:36]
community I mean we I I don't know if
anybody and I'm not hearing of anybody
[46:40]
around the table but that doesn't mean
that there isn't somebody out
[46:44]
there sles is the one that got the local
Loop yes yeah the town you know there's
[46:52]
quite a few that's sponsoring it and
whatever so um
[46:58]
Char's involved with
that you know I think that that would
[47:04]
probably be the stronger point to go
to that would be one of her conts one of
[47:11]
her many conts so yeah just put it out
there and if anybody's interested they
[47:15]
just come home and then at least you've
got you know you've made the initial
[47:21]
contact for anybody that might be
interested see what comes in and take it
[47:27]
from there bring that back to council
[47:34]
couple propose solar farm and related
upates fun
[47:43]
stuff um so again um this is just to get
feedback from C what they going to do we
[47:51]
also have that you seen that letter from
Janine she's looking for information
[47:54]
from Council to to provide addresses of
uh properties that they on that are
[48:01]
within that boundary or family members
um she's concerned that if we don't
[48:07]
acknowledge where there could be a
conflict that when we go to the hearing
[48:10]
that could uh backfire on us so she
wants to make sure that nothing happens
[48:17]
that's going
to impede our our cause at the Au so
[48:22]
identifying where maybe current members
may have a
[48:27]
is is what she wants to do um the other
is you know addressing if if C wants to
[48:34]
go ahead with changing the land use
bylaw and yeah those are two big
[48:41]
topics so you're saying that I have to
read this room yeah me too not not at
[48:49]
the discretion level actually if if you
read
[48:53]
to no discussion on no discussion
because then I will be privy to
[48:59]
privileged
information that may not be available to
[49:04]
me so well and all of this is based on
perceived you know whether there is um a
[49:10]
pecuniary interest or not um we do own
land we bought it in in May of
[49:18]
2011 and
so you know the fact that it hasn't been
[49:22]
developed to this point you know really
we're probably looking at losing money
[49:28]
on it should we do anything with it but
this is perceived you know I was voted
[49:33]
as a counselor into this position to
reflect the the word of the the
[49:39]
residents and have we not heard from you
know the the development on the the west
[49:46]
side of of of our town are we not
learning anything as to what you know
[49:52]
so we're trying to do something and
we're supposedly at risk of being
[49:57]
perceived to um do something or have
something that that is not there like
[50:05]
prove that we would be benefiting from
but the the municipal government Act is
[50:12]
the other thing we swore to that we will
abide by the municipal government act
[50:17]
which clearly states I read I realized
so because of that to protect you
[50:23]
actually yeah I realized that well it's
a conf
[50:27]
and that's and that's like that's why
we're paying Janine a lot of money to to
[50:31]
look out for our interest to you know to
fight this and look out for her interest
[50:35]
if she doesn't want anything coming up
that's going to look badly on us that
[50:39]
you know that there's a conf and that's
why she wants that information because
[50:41]
she wants to have assessments uh done on
the properties that counselor close
[50:47]
counselor family members have and and
see what kind of impact and she said it
[50:51]
might come back that there's no impact
um but she has to do her work and that's
[50:55]
what we've we've hired to do is to
provide the experts to look out for our
[51:00]
best interest and and to fight this and
is what she's doing so um so I believe
[51:06]
that is why when it was asked whether or
not we wanted to form a group or have
[51:11]
the CAO um work on behalf that is where
I had chose so that I was not involved
[51:18]
in that sort of thing and um if we were
to have everyone that may have a
[51:25]
perceived pecuniary interest leave the
room will we have Forum to vote on
[51:31]
anything probably not yeah I don't have
all your detail so I think there would
[51:36]
still be a few
that like three of
[51:41]
us we don't
have so I guess just the definition even
[51:47]
with that whole pecuniary interest it it
requires you know financial interest or
[51:53]
investment but my understanding in the
governance level is you are allowed to
[51:58]
be at the table for the discussion it's
the voting power when it comes to the
[52:03]
voting you can be at the table or the
discussion be included in the discussion
[52:08]
but you can't have you have to recuse
yourself in the voting position at that
[52:13]
and it's like anything not if it's in
Clos session because that's privileged
[52:19]
information and nobody with a pecuniary
interest perceived can be involved in
[52:26]
privilege information so that's how I
read it so a close what s so what so in
[52:34]
camera yes I know what a CL but I'm just
saying so when are we making decisions
[52:38]
in a closed session we don't you're not
you're you're getting information that's
[52:43]
not wory to anybody outside the room so
we're saying what our lawyers are are
[52:49]
are um providing for
us we cannot I I shouldn't be in the
[52:55]
room I I will recuse myself whatever
people do they can do whatever they want
[53:00]
I will recuse myself because the
municipal government act states that I
[53:06]
have to and whether or not I was elected
That's the Law And if I don't abide by
[53:13]
the law then you shouldn't be here so I
will be accusing myself yeah and I'll be
[53:19]
excusing accusing myself as well
generally elected official who has a
[53:24]
Peary interest cannot participate in
discussions on that topic according to
[53:28]
the
m this is
[53:31]
Matthew's been asking I read it
yeah so but that's that's how I
[53:37]
interpret it so I won't I think Janine's
biggest thing is if u c you may have a
[53:44]
perceived conflict of interests with
their land go ahead and vote on amending
[53:49]
the land use by law which it seems that
they're doing to protect their personal
[53:54]
interest and not the interest of the
municipality that that's Janine's take
[53:58]
on it and that may be the take of take
of a that may be the take of pay so
[54:03]
she's trying to protect us from being
put in that
[54:07]
position of not that they're finding
something that f is on and she wants us
[54:12]
to come clean with our with our best
bite and to have it used against us and
[54:18]
yeah to say that we'll or the couns have
financial interest involved and they
[54:23]
voted to change the land use Barm well
well we don't what financial gain are
[54:27]
they going I mean when I look at the
financial interest or
[54:32]
Investments that in
itself yeah it' be interesting to see
[54:36]
what their financial gain is and who is
claiming this do they have access to our
[54:42]
information
like anyways yeah I would be
[54:46]
reusing my husband and I purchased land
um at May of 2011 and it is directly
[54:53]
across from from Grant and and at the
time
[54:59]
um it's been sitting and we're using it
because it's an open space with future
[55:04]
plan so I will be recusing myself from
any any further discussion and then the
[55:10]
onus is on everybody
else well I was elected for the People
[55:17]
by right if I can't express my opinion
sign I'll leave the room and I'll leave
[55:25]
for good I just
want I
[55:30]
mean I think made it clear what their
stand is it's no power two people
[55:38]
there's no power but what we pay J need
to do like that's that's our best thing
[55:44]
we're pay we're not paying some backst
Street lawyer we're paying one of the
[55:48]
best of representing vales in the
province you know we've got them on our
[55:53]
side fighting our
Cas right
[55:56]
does she have for track history what
other community has
[56:01]
she served or what is
she she's been on like I can't remember
[56:06]
the name of the municipality but she
worked for the municipality but they
[56:09]
wanted the the thing there was so she
made everything run smoothly that all
[56:15]
their commitments were were met that
that time wanted so and and I think this
[56:20]
is her key area that she works that she
doesn't work in different kinds of legal
[56:25]
but you know she was senior legal person
yeah so you know for for specific
[56:30]
background you know you know Council
directs staff
[56:33]
to engage with legal Health to do this
and we've got the best and they've
[56:41]
recruited engineers and experts to to BU
our cause and I think what she said at
[56:46]
that last meeting we have a really good
case you know fight it yeah with what
[56:53]
she that land B amendment when several
communties have the exact same
[57:00]
thing the MGA says that you see over
ride whatever I we can day through the
[57:08]
the pleasure of doing all that again
which I think he enjoyed the last time
[57:12]
to do I
enjo enjoy but like we can put all that
[57:17]
work and eff into doing it we can do it
but a will we not interested in it yeah
[57:22]
yeah the whole thing is they'll look at
it is why wasn't it there
[57:28]
before because we' never dealt we never
[57:33]
experience why there was no land use B
Amendment before there was anybody
[57:37]
building houses either yeah but this is
what they'll look at
[57:41]
is yeah or being proactive maybe but
anyways
[57:48]
um so that can be moved by a motion if
somebody brings that motion to the table
[57:54]
um
we won't be able session
[58:00]
session we can bring stuff back
[58:09]
to so then I have another question with
a motion such as that if
[58:15]
um if how many six
counselors and three have to recu
[58:23]
themselves from the voting power of such
a motion you have through left at the
[58:27]
table and so we still it would be the
best out of three then right those that
[58:32]
are able your is you're not considered
in that I so but you were the the only
[58:37]
one that voted in favor of this correct
so just the fact of
[58:45]
perception it's still a decision of
council I supp a decision of council it
[58:49]
is definitely decision yeah you
certainly never said anything otherwise
[58:53]
I we're entitled we're all entitled to
our our feelings and our opinions um but
[59:00]
the decision of council was to go ahead
with this process and we've done that
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that's I have done nothing other than
support the decision of
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counsel so I don't know what what you're
looking
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for it is actually our fiduciary duty if
a motion is passed that is our fiduciary
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duty to um present ourselves in position
to support the motion that has passed so
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that if if there's any motions that are
made outside of that
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um we can feel a think or say whatever
we want but if the motion is passed then
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it is absolutely 100% our fiduciary duty
to support those misss even if we don't
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support them we still have support but
if we're getting a consultation
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or you know I'm saying the other side as
well if we're getting instructions from
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a strong recommendation from the lawyer
that that we are um have
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retained to perhaps
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wait
then it's kind of like a slap in their
[1:00:13]
face when they're doing their best to
represent us in in their
[1:00:19]
experience with this situation so I
don't know what to do
[1:00:29]
I guess like I'm not an expert for
sure
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obviously I I think I will just leave it
to the
[1:00:41]
CEO's decision to on
behalf like maybe before everyone leaves
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today we can get those addresses of
properties you're within that meter yeah
[1:00:56]
so we can get that
J she already has mine she anced it all
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over
there SC s
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times and this list does Define exactly
I went through every single on name and
[1:01:19]
I could probably tell you exactly who
who has to withdraw and who doesn't but
[1:01:23]
it has a comprehensive um on schedule
there was one error on this um from what
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I understand but um this will Define
exactly where you sit within the
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parameters of
yeah it was yeah number 184 this one
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that was probably not in right standing
but any
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so if anybody needs to look at this to
define whether they're within that
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proximity they are free to take a look
at this
[1:02:03]
today with number 184 pardon did you say
there's a problem with number 184
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there's an error there's an
error
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um I none of my family nor myself are
within that jurisdiction i'me won't for
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the boundary in
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who introduced this green energy
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to did this all start oh PA was going
all over the province itself
[1:02:42]
yeah so originally Pace had come
to
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town and there was an individual has
some property on the North West corner
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of town within towns as well and uh they
were approached about this project and
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that individual turned it down and then
they went to the property where they're
[1:03:05]
at now but I don't think anyone actually
physically went out and said hey come to
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Hannah
possibly
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possibly like I said but the original
the original one was a piece I
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approached to
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well I
think we've all heard from Pace that
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there is well eventually we heard
finally maybe that there is
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no there is no other in North America in
the situation we're in with our airport
[1:04:00]
discuss that
today discuss so that is a concern that
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they're fighting it for reasons for
their benefit where we
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will okay so I think what we need to do
is get back on on
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schedule um do we want
Matthew to look at the setback
[1:04:28]
regulations in more depth than what we
have right
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now i' like to see something that way
but for that's we won't get it done in
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time anyways permit
happened before the
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hearing okay and the hearing is unknown
at the time too
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March 5th is it March 5th remember it
was February 8th originally wasn't it
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yeah it's March 3D orth orth and sixth I
believe is when um I think the town is
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either the fifth or sixth I believe of
March Yeah by we get this all it takes
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what three months and there is no way it
will be approved ahead of time is just
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you know to start the process but um
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whether it's worth the time and
energy yeah you're going to pull day
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from all the responsibilities to to do
something that maybe pay not pay
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see says the same thing we're just we're
just creating extra work for day to
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do never thank us for day
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increase so I think what I'm hearing
from Matthew the recommendation is that
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we if we are going to review the Landes
bylaw um do we got at our Pace that
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terminology on our time line instead of
rushing through it and trying to get it
[1:06:14]
done for the purpose of this uh project
um do the fact that I mean no the Au is
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going to run with whatever they have now
so instead of uh having our
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bylaw review immediately um just leave
it as
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is it's a it's a very contentious item
for lack of a better
[1:06:51]
term okay proposed amendments to 103524
Animal Service service animal
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Provisions so this comes up CU a
resident got in touch with me and said
[1:07:03]
that they have service dogs and in the
past they had had to pay for a service
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dog dog license fee and they didn't see
that in the new bylaw where it said that
[1:07:15]
this wasn't included so the new bylaw
was based on the previous attempt at
[1:07:21]
redoing it and there was some confusion
that thought that it was
[1:07:26]
Province wide that service dogs didn't
have to pay so that's why it was left
[1:07:31]
out but it's done to each municipality
to set that that theme so it's just to
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see what council's interest is like we
can just no charge for service animals
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I'll add an amendment to the the
existing bylaw that says so is there any
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documentation that it is a service dog
or no that's that's what I'm asking like
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mean if you don't every dog in the
country chicken
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is he's got a passport that says all his
stuff I just I just but there is like
[1:08:13]
they have to have yeah that's my
understanding but I just want to be
[1:08:18]
trained in California you just have to
love them and
[1:08:23]
you but I have had
my hi porn off several times over the
[1:08:30]
$150 a year we have to produce that why
is it a problem to encourage people to
[1:08:35]
get their kid or their
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K why is that a problem I don't
understand like that's been a worldwide
[1:08:47]
goal that's a town goal for a long time
to encourage that and if somebody says
[1:08:52]
oh my dog is sterile already that's just
that's fine you don't need a procedure
[1:08:58]
evidence that that's a
[1:09:03]
thing to breath
dogs that's so there's there's that
[1:09:11]
undercurrent of people who get
information that doesn't necessarily
[1:09:15]
agree with the rest of the world but one
of them is that your dog will live
[1:09:19]
longer your cat will live longer if you
don't get them
[1:09:23]
fixed if my cat hadn't have been fixed I
wouldn't have a cat anymore because I
[1:09:28]
would have killed her by now because
she'd be spraying everywhere and you
[1:09:33]
just be awful but that's their logic um
but even the regular fee how much is it
[1:09:38]
for the what were we going to do for the
spade and
[1:09:44]
neuter it was the the other one yeah had
some
[1:09:49]
guys
lifetime I want lifetime up to you yeah
[1:09:54]
what happen
dies
[1:09:57]
with liim is
old don't yeah get a different
[1:10:03]
dog no you
[1:10:07]
can't what about what about the thinking
that a dog is a dog regardless if it is
[1:10:12]
a service dog or
not well a service dog is a necessity I
[1:10:18]
know that I know that but it's still
it's still a dog
[1:10:23]
and and really there are problem
everybody knows that a a pet is
[1:10:29]
very um supportive emotionally and
everything else that every dog could be
[1:10:34]
seen as a I know it's going to be like
like have the documentation and
[1:10:38]
everything else but you know if somebody
comes back and say well yeah it's still
[1:10:42]
a dog at the end of the
[1:10:45]
day I don't think that's a slope we want
to travel down myself I mean if it's a
[1:10:50]
service dog and I'm coming to the point
where I'm going to probably need a
[1:10:54]
service dog against my wife's best
interest um but I mean I I would have no
[1:11:02]
problem either or but I just say for a
person that needs a service dog to
[1:11:07]
travel um I don't think you want to
penalize that
[1:11:11]
individual um it's it's it's like a
handicap stick basically in my
[1:11:18]
opinion
well and it's it's it's a rude thing to
[1:11:23]
say but I don't think I'm that far
[1:11:33]
sounds
[1:11:37]
like
[1:11:40]
Cent
yeah yeah I don't see a problem with
[1:11:44]
that service dogs are differently
defined okay I'm just playing
[1:11:49]
Devil's well that's that's what it's for
is discussion right that's Serv I know
[1:11:55]
it say service animal that's why I said
the
[1:11:58]
chicken okay so direction is Matthew
we'll bring this back to our meeting on
[1:12:03]
next wednes no next Tuesday Tuesday
after Tuesday
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after
okay uh any other
[1:12:15]
discussion so we're in round table now
yes um I do have um something to kind of
[1:12:21]
somewhat announce that um Alberta air
tours CL conted um he was in discussion
[1:12:27]
with a a local resident and gave them my
name and um so what this group does is
[1:12:36]
they travel around uh the province
promoting um Aeronautics and you know
[1:12:43]
small plane piloting and and that sort
of thing so they are um asked if they if
[1:12:50]
we would be interested in having them
come to Hannah they have about 40 planes
[1:12:55]
that will land um and then the public is
invited to come in and to go through
[1:13:03]
their planes they're they're promoting
flying and they're trying I believe
[1:13:08]
they're educating on the benefits and um
to community as well as Youth and and it
[1:13:16]
sounds very um very exciting and so uh
discussion this information has been
[1:13:23]
brought forward to Toca
and to the uh president of the Hannah
[1:13:27]
Flying Club and they are very supportive
of it and um there was a video that was
[1:13:34]
shared that I could send to everybody um
that I'm sorry I didn't before but and
[1:13:40]
shows you their sort of visit to the old
Didsbury airport and so what they've had
[1:13:46]
in the past is um you know things that
are brought to the airport to support it
[1:13:53]
um you know for example maybe we could
look at inviting our other emergency uh
[1:13:58]
responders like the fire department the
police department to have the public
[1:14:03]
come and and look at their um equipment
as well not saying that these planes
[1:14:09]
will be uh emergency responders but um
it's just another Avenue to attract
[1:14:15]
other and get more education out there
um I would like to be inviting the
[1:14:21]
school and the school division to have
the students come out and look at it I
[1:14:26]
believe we there are flying lessons I
believe at the Hannah uh airport to a
[1:14:34]
certain extent and maybe that could grow
as well as the Flying Club could have
[1:14:38]
information there as well so we're um
looking at another asking is that we
[1:14:45]
feed the um the pilots so um looking at
potential for a barbecue and you know
[1:14:53]
maybe a mini market or or whatever
interest interested parties might want
[1:14:58]
to to have an as an event in our
community so they're only here
[1:15:04]
from we're looking at June 21st from
three from 2 to 5 and they will look
[1:15:11]
after um all the landing they'll work
with the Flying Club regarding the
[1:15:16]
landing and parking and um and out
certain thing they figure about an hour
[1:15:20]
for all the pilots and planes to land
and and then afterwards they take off
[1:15:27]
and so it's a um it sounds like quite an
interesting thing so if you want to go
[1:15:33]
on their website it's called Alberta air
tours and they're all Pilots well
[1:15:39]
obviously they're
allots sorry about that um but they
[1:15:45]
enjoy getting out there and coming to
different communities and celebrating
[1:15:49]
what they have to offer and sharing
their experiences with the public it's
[1:15:53]
like the car show there such
Pride would be I recall seeing these
[1:15:59]
flying pancake breast years I don't know
I just that immediately popped into my
[1:16:06]
head was a flying pancake breakfast and
I don't know where I've seen it before
[1:16:09]
but I know it's a thing and there's no
reason why we couldn't do a flying
[1:16:12]
barbecue or an afternoon uh with the
time frame it might be tough to get
[1:16:16]
school involved but we definitely ask
them if they if they would like to well
[1:16:20]
that's the thing putting it out there
and they want
[1:16:23]
participate sat I think it's a Saturday
provided um well and perhaps there is
[1:16:29]
some other educational end perhaps there
is a you know maybe one of the colleges
[1:16:34]
that that provides flying lessons or is
a flying school or whatever we could
[1:16:39]
invite them and get them the option to
come out or use maybe one of
[1:16:43]
our it is we could have well yeah for
that and and maybe have it um you know
[1:16:50]
from noon till whatever you know in
anticipation of of the
[1:16:55]
everybody being able to see the planes
land and take off and they're very
[1:16:59]
organized group and they've been doing
it for some time so um that's kind like
[1:17:04]
it I'm very quite quite pleased that
that the um that we were approached and
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it's thanks to a small business um um
entrepreneur that um lives outside on
[1:17:16]
the edge of our community so yeah so I'm
excited about that and so I'll be
[1:17:22]
working with them to try and get the
word out and um promote and um you know
[1:17:30]
put our our airport in the public light
Y and a nice positive um thing for our
[1:17:37]
community just a question um a few years
back quite a few probably nine maybe
[1:17:42]
eight or nine years ago they had a
similar event here in town with one of
[1:17:46]
the youth programs that they had going
on and went to the airport and they
[1:17:50]
actually cuz I remember my daughter at
that time actually got to flow there
[1:17:55]
yes I'm wondering if it's the same
[1:18:00]
organization yeah no this is
provincewide and so what they'll be
[1:18:04]
doing is they'll be starting in way wri
and then going to killum and then coming
[1:18:10]
to us so there's three in the day that
they are going around and and sharing
[1:18:16]
their their information and experience
and giving us the opportunity to
[1:18:23]
to attract people to community so
young Peggy reill is is coordinates the
[1:18:30]
youth club that would the youth club why
not
[1:18:35]
yeah I'll be putting posters on
actually is
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[Music]
itg yeah Peggy not doing
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something that's all I anything
[1:18:52]
else V Memorial Highway
Association have a meeting this Friday
[1:18:59]
it was changed to February
7th then it was changed to the
[1:19:04]
21st and now it's on the
[1:19:13]
28th January or February
February yeah we're already on the
[1:19:23]
2 travel right okay um hearing nothing
else we would like to adjourn at 9:50
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p.m.
a.m.
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Trel so what did you get for are we all
no okay