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the minutes for the August 10th, 2026
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meeting.
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>> Make a motion to approve.
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>> Motion by Dave.
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>> Second.
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by Tom. Any final uh questions,
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comments, or
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seeing none, all those in favor signify
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by saying I.
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>> I.
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>> Oppose. Nay
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minutes pass. The third item on the
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agenda is appearances. Uh we do have uh
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a public hearing in which um you can if you are appearing for the public
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hearing, you can do so under that. Uh
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otherwise um you are welcome to appear
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if you don't if it isn't under a public
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hearing. Um, and I see some people in
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the audience for like I said the bank
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and uh the fire station
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um and Winter Park builders uh are not
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public hearings. So if you wish to
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appear now you can
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second call
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and final call.
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All right. Then item four on the agenda
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is a public hearing for a conditional
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use permit to allow for the operation of
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a secondhand store at 1336 East Sumner
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Street uh zoned B3 General Business
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District. I declare this hearing open uh
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and reading of the public notice. Jacob.
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Sorry.
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>> Take your time.
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Okay. Notice of public hearing plan
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commission. Please take notice that
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pursuant to section 62.23 23 PN 7 PNDE
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of the Wisconsin state statutes and
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section 52.302 302 of the city of
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Hartford municipal code that a public
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hearing will be held at 6:00 p.m. or
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thereafter on August 10th 20 or it
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should say August I'm reading the wrong
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one so I must have the wrong packet but
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it should be August or September
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>> uh 14th 2026 in the common council
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chambers at the lower level of the city
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hall 109 North Main Street by the city
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of Hartford plan commission to consider
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a request of Trisha's Seed LLC
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uh to apply for a conditional use permit
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to allow for a secondhand store at the
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property property of 1336 East Sumar
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Street, tax key 36-220-00001-
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023,
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zoned B3, general business district. All
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persons wishing to provide testimony for
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or against the requested applicant
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application are invited to be present.
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Written comments may be submitted to the
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city clerk, Shana Cryamp, 109 North Main
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Street, Hartford, Wisconsin 53027. A map
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of the parcel and application can be
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reviewed in the planning zoning office
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by appointment 109 North Main Street
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Monday through Friday between the hours
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of 7:30 a.m. and 4:30 p.m. contact
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262-673
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8272 dated this the
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14th day of August 2026. Shannon
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Crowamp, city clerk, city of Hartford.
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This was published in the Daily News.
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>> Thanks. And then staff review, Jacob.
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All right. Uh, Trisha Shehed LLC uh is
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Patricia Oralbeck. Uh, the business
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owner is looking to establish She-Hed at
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1336 East Sum Street. This is a
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pre-existing business that is located on
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uh State Highway 83 going towards the
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south. They're looking to relocate their
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business to this parcel. Uh 1336 East
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Summer Street is zone B3 uh general
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business district under the B3 zoning
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district. Secondhand store is a
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principal land use that is permitted as
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a conditional use. Uh after staff
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review, uh 1336 East Sumar Street is
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subject to the following. Compliance
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with building codes, property
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maintenance, and fire codes. Maintain
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hours of operation as stated in the plan
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of business operation. A a sign permit
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must be submitted for each sign. Signs
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must comply with chapter 54 of the city
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of Hartford Municipal Code. Vehicle
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parking, one space for each 350 square
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feet of floor area for retail sales,
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plus one space for each employee on the
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largest work shift. Pawn broker
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secondhand article dealers and
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secondhand jewelry dealers must comply
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with the requirements in 320
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section 3209 of the municipal code of
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the city of Hartford as applicable.
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Outdoor storage is strictly prohibited.
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So after reviewing all this, the plan
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staff recommends approval of the
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conditional use permit for secondhand
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store the city of Hartford's B3 general
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business zoning district uh with the
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following conditions. Uh compliance with
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the building codes, property
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maintenance, and fire codes. Maintain
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hours of operation as stated in the plan
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of business operation. Assigned permit
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must be submitted for each sign. Signs
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must comply with chapter 54 of the city
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of Hartford Municipal Code. of vehicle
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parking. Again, one space for each 350
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square feet of floor area for retail
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sales, plus one space for each employee
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on the largest work shift. Pawn brokers,
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secondhand article dealers, and
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secondhand jewelry dealers must comply
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with the requirements of section 3209 of
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the municipal code as applicable and
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outdoor storage is strictly prohibited.
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Uh so that is what we are recommending
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with those uh seven conditions.
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» All right. So the next part of the
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public hearing is appearances and favor.
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Anyone wishing to appear in favor?
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» Then please just state your name and
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address.
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>> 418 Hartford. And I'm here obviously to
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say that I'm in favor of it.
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>> Super. Thank you.
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>> Thank you.
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>> All right. Anyone else wishing to appear
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in favor?
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Last call. Anyone wishing to appear in
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favor?
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All right, then we go to appearances in
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opposition.
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Second call, appearances in opposition.
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And last call, appearances in
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opposition.
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All right, then I declare this hearing
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closed
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uh for discussion by plan commission.
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And Jacob, I just had a question for
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you. Uh, did you go over this all with
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uh the applicants?
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>> We sent this out to the applicant last
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week with our with our uh write up so
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that they were aware prior to the
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meeting.
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>> And as far as you know, is everything uh
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in order?
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>> We've been in discussion with them about
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several things. Uh I I believe possible
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accessory structure in the future or
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storage. So we have been in
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communication with them on some of the
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stuff, but uh again they're they're
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aware of that.
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Okay. Thank you. Anyone else questions
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or comments?
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>> Tom?
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>> Yes. Um on the building um and was
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handwritten. There's a fence that's to
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the west of the building. Um that fence
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is that going to be for um additional
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storage or uh what is what's the uh the
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reason for that?
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And so it's uh
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>> we
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go
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>> Jake Jacob will answer first.
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>> So I don't know for sure what it was
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for. I believe uh it was for uh
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I don't think it's for outdoor storage.
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It's mostly for uh
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I can't honestly answer what the what
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that uh fenced in area is for.
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>> Would you like them to answer since
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>> Yes, please. Yeah.
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>> Jared or Patricia, you can come up.
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>> Yeah.
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It's for additional selling space to
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have like outside concrete planters or
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bird baths or whatnot. We wanted to have
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a secure place um so people couldn't
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steal the stuff. Like currently right
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now we have it all sitting outside in
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front of our shops. We just more for a
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secured place. And our hopes were that
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we could put an out building inside that
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fence and as well as in back and I think
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that's part of our packet too. Yes.
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>> Um, so and they wouldn't be storage.
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They would be additional selling space.
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>> Okay.
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>> I know how your store is now and you
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have a lot of lot of items out front.
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>> Yes. And that's our intent to put it
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behind the fencing area and then an out
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building if possible, but for sure the
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fencing area if we could.
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>> Very trusting.
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>> Yes, I know.
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>> Okay. Um All right. Yeah, makes sense.
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Makes I just
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>> Okay. Thank you.
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>> Sure.
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>> Would go ahead. So, would that become an
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possibly an issue as far as it being
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outside
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selling space as opposed to outside
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storage space?
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>> Uh, no. The exterior retail area would
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not be be an issue. Again, we would ask
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when we the fence gets approved that the
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street facing side has uh it it's pretty
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much going to be uh it's going to block
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all vision into that so that it kind of
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takes away from that possible uh
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aesthetic
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pos problem the problematic uh kind of
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issues that you can see with some of
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that outdoor sales stuff. So, we would
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ask for more of a privacy fence along
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the the Sumar Street portion. And then
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again, the sheds. I think the biggest
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issue with the sheds is fire code. Uh
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just because you can't be you have to be
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a certain distance from a building
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unless you're going to sprinkler and
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stuff like that. So, again, it it it
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becomes an issue.
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>> Thank you.
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>> Anyone else?
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>> If not, I would entertain a motion.
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>> I'll make a motion to approve.
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>> I'll second. Motion by Tom, second by
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Tony
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for uh sorry, approve.
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>> I know.
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>> Approving the proposed conditional use
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permit to allow for the operation of a
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secondhand store at 1336 East Sum
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Street, zone B3 General Business
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District.
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>> All right. Any final uh Oh, and uh per
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the uh seven uh recommendations of the
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planning staff.
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Um,
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any final comments or questions?
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Seeing none, all those in favor signify
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by saying I.
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>> I.
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>> Opposed? Nay.
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>> Motion passes.
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All right. Fifth item on the agenda is
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discussion and consideration of the
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proposed architectural review in the CC3
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downtown core district for First
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National Bank doing business as Forte
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Bank at 114 1116 West Sumner Street.
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Jacob.
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>> All right. Uh, First National Bank doing
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business as Forte Bank is proposing to
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do an exterior renovation of their uh,
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current 6,620 ft building located at 114
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1114 and 1116 West Sumar Street.
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Uh, this is the location of that uh,
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right just right across the Johnson
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Street alley here or not alley but North
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Johnson Street right across from us
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here.
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It is CC2. So this isn't the CC3 is more
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the business core of the downtown. CC2
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is the extension of the commercial
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district specifically along uh the west
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Sumar East Sumar uh portion of the older
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part of the city.
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So this is the existing structure
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from the southeast
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again from West Summer Street view from
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the southwest and then the backside with
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the uh drive-throughs for the cashiers
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or the bankers
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and then along North Johnson Street
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looking towards uh West Sumar.
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Uh the proposed M materials are
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longboard uh 6-in tongue and groove
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planks, light cherry uh
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and then uh some other uh I'm not
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proficient on this, but vintage wood
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nitana it's an ash and then also using
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coping uh pack clad graphite as well as
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uh more of an ash gray.
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So this is the proposed
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uh again from the southeast street view.
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Uh the brick facade is of that planking.
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The signage we are not covering tonight
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because signage code is different and it
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doesn't it that doesn't need plan
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commission approval for signage that
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just goes that's interior unless they
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need to appeal.
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And then again, uh the renovation on the
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looking from the southwest street, the
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renderings there with the planking
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and then also then the canopy portion of
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the drive-thru is more of that ash plank
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wood look to it.
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So that is what uh is coming before you.
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Uh again, we're recommending approval of
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the architectural plan uh in the city of
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Hartford's CC2 downtown transition
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zoning district at 11:14 and 116 Western
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Sum West Sumner Street uh with the
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following conditions. A sign permit must
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be submitted for each of the new signs
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and they must comply with chapter 54 and
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then maintain compliance with the
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exterior material standards, which this
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does. So again, we have no issues with
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this and we recommend approval by the
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plan commission.
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>> Great. Thanks, Jacob. Yeah, I'd like to
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just say um it's always good to see uh
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when uh businesses in the city um take
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pride in in their uh buildings and you
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know want to keep it you know clean and
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up to date and and uh like I said this
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is quite an improvement. Thank you.
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Appreciate that. Anyone else?
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If not, I'll entertain a motion.
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>> I'll make a motion to approve.
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>> Motion by Dave.
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>> Second.
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by Tom.
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again. Um, oh my goodness. Sorry guys.
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For the approval of I'm just going to go
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back to this one.
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The architectural review in the CC2
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downtown transition zoning district
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114116 Summer Street uh improvements.
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Any final questions, comments, or
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discussion?
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>> Seeing none, all those in favor signify
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by saying I.
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>> I.
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>> Oppos? Nay. Motion passes.
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All right. Next item on the agenda is
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discussion and consideration for a
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special exception for exterior material
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standards for fire station number two at
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1455 Shower Drive.
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>> All right. Uh we 1455 Shower Drive. This
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came to us at the last plan commission
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meeting. Uh looking over the plans and
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also after what was approved by the plan
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commission. Uh there will be issues with
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the exterior material standards under uh
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chapter 52. Uh to address that, they do
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allow as you I don't I'm not going to
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read all of it in the in the packet, but
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there is an allowance for a special
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exception. A special exception's
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different than a variance. There is no
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need for a hardship. Uh this is just the
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plan commission and it stops here at the
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plan commission. doesn't go on to the
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common council uh to review and see if
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this is aesthetically pleasing enough
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and it would work in the surrounding uh neighborhood of of this development.
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Uh again, part of it if you look into
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our into the packet, so one of the
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things that talked about was the
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prevailing materials used on the
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building is in the same area. Uh there
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are two structures currently along uh
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County Trunk Highway K. uh that are uh
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that do have uh corrugated metal siding.
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One being uh 3 3462 County Trunk Highway
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K, which is Simples Auto Repair. Again,
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that is in the city of Hartford. It's
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set back a little bit, but again, that
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is uh Corrugated Metal. And the other
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one is 1457 East Summer Street, uh
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Cherry Auto. Uh that one is a main and
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that one's right up front in our one of
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our busiest corridors. uh for that uh
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this will be set back off of our
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obviously further down County Trunk
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Highway K and not visually you won't be
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able to visualize or visually see it
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from uh West Summer Street or East
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Summer Street as you go through the
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city. Uh and what they're proposing is
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uh this right here. Again, they're using
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uh metal paneling to kind of break up
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the the corrugated metal siding. It's
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that white um three or six inch uh
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paneling
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through there as well as then on the
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fire station two uh number is that u it
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is a metal clad but it it it has that
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simulated wood look which breaks up that
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uh corrugated metal siding. as well as
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you also have which you don't see with a
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lot of commercial developments is you
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see glass garage doors on fire stations
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which again really softens up that uh
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south facing or west facing uh portion
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of the fire station number two.
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And again, this is how it looks from
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that other angle.
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that wraps around to that one two
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windows there uh along the main uh
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administration administration portion of fire station number two. So we at
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this time planning comm or uh planning
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staff has no issues with the the
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granting of a special exception to allow
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uh for uh the the curricade metal
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paneling as presented.
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Since you're here, Tony, did you want to
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say anything or
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>> I think uh Jacob nailed it. But this
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also is the provision to not uh provide
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the masonry min.
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>> Correct. Correct. Yeah. And no masonry
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minimum.
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>> The masonary facade is out.
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>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
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>> Yeah. Okay.
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>> All right. Thanks, Jacob. Uh no, I I
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tend to agree with it, especially with
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the other two buildings um that's
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already there and and getting hammered
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on the budget. So,
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>> uh, anything else from commission?
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>> If not, I'd entertain a motion.
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>> I'll make a motion.
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>> Motion by Tony.
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>> Second.
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by Dave
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to approve the uh
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special exception for the exterior
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material standards for fire station
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number two, 1455 Shower Drive. Any final
[19:18]
discussion or comments?
[19:20]
>> Seeing none, all those in favor, seeing
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nobody by saying I. I
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>> oppose. Nay. Motion passes.
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» And item seven on the agenda, discussion
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of a subdivision concept plan for Winter
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Park Builders LLC.
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Jacob.
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>> All right. Uh the because this one is
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not an actual item and there's more of a
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back and forth, we do have the
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developers here so we can have
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conversation back and forth with them.
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It's not like your typical uh plan
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commission agenda item because it's
[19:51]
solely discussion. Uh so again, Winter
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Park builders, uh they're looking to
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build on uh these there's three parcels.
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Uh the one parcel is split by uh West
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State Street and then the one far
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southern parcel there that's highlighted
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with the 18 in it, that is the HADC,
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City of Hartford uh own parcel. uh as
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part of this uh as we move forward, we
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will be looking to reszone this at our
[20:18]
next plan commission meeting and moving
[20:19]
on to common council as this project
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moves forward. So again, there's we had
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received no comment from any of the
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other departments, engineering, fire,
[20:28]
police, water, electric or sanitary. Uh
[20:31]
again, the HADC, City of Hartford parcel
[20:34]
will be reszoned in in October here. Uh
[20:37]
and the only really environmental issues
[20:39]
here is there are small patches of
[20:41]
wetlands. Um again any type of
[20:44]
development near those will require uh
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wetland delineation for them and any
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applicable permitting through uh the DNR
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to if they they look like they're
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relatively small if there's going to be
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any fill. I don't think they're Army
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Corps. They're not connected to the
[20:58]
Rubicon River in any way. So I I don't
[21:01]
foresee them being waters of the nation
[21:03]
of the United States of America, more
[21:04]
waters of the state type of scenario.
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And then uh there are no flood planes
[21:08]
located on these three uh parcels that
[21:10]
we have to worry about. Uh so again uh
[21:13]
from a planning perspective uh we don't
[21:15]
have any issues uh
[21:18]
looking at it uh based off of what we
[21:22]
had prior when we created TID 14 for
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this parcel uh or as part of this uh as
[21:29]
part of this development that to go with
[21:31]
the DJS uh we had around 600 units of
[21:35]
dwelling units at about close to 100
[21:38]
acres. So that comes out about 61 units
[21:40]
per acre. Uh, and this is a mix of
[21:42]
single family as well as villas, uh,
[21:47]
town homes and then also multif family
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apartments.
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And then I'll pull up the
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PowerPoint from the developer.
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And this was the prior uh layout. It's on the side.
[22:12]
Again, north is facing that way, but
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this is kind of how it was planned out.
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Uh just north of uh West State Street.
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And again, this is the portion that will
[22:23]
most likely or it's actually the south
[22:26]
the southern portion of West State
[22:27]
Street that'll be developed first and
[22:29]
then moving along to eventually this way
[22:32]
to the to the north.
[22:35]
and Scott can fill in if any more.
[22:38]
>> Hi, Scott Simon with Winter Park
[22:41]
Builders. I just wanted to come in front
[22:43]
of you to see how you felt about the
[22:44]
development, what you were thinking for
[22:47]
the future. I know this is part of your
[22:49]
planning area. We've been working with
[22:51]
staff for over a year now and we've been
[22:53]
working with Tom and with um everybody
[22:56]
else trying to see what the best fits
[22:58]
would be. We started with the basis of
[23:00]
working off the Tracy Cross report that
[23:02]
was done for you in 2024
[23:05]
and a lot of our product is based on
[23:07]
what they had recommended.
[23:09]
What we have now is just a regular
[23:12]
drawing showing you where things are
[23:14]
going to be. We're going to be closing
[23:15]
on the parcel at three separate times.
[23:17]
So, um, based on our most recent
[23:19]
discussion with staff, they had said
[23:22]
that there is the greatest need for
[23:23]
multif family now. So, we're probably
[23:26]
going to try to push that forward when
[23:27]
we were going to keep bring that at the
[23:29]
end. Wanted to see if you had any issues
[23:31]
with that. And the pictures that he's
[23:34]
taking past you now, if you go back one,
[23:36]
please. That's what our ranch villas
[23:39]
will look like. There are between 1,400
[23:41]
and,600 square ft. And there's three
[23:44]
different floor plans and exposures if
[23:46]
needed. If not, that's sort of the
[23:48]
baseline. If you want to go on to the
[23:50]
next one, those are our it's three-story
[23:54]
town homes. They're called terrace
[23:55]
residents for us cuz they're two in a
[23:57]
building. So, it's just again the type
[24:00]
of feel we're trying to bring and we
[24:02]
wanted to make sure that that was good
[24:03]
with you.
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>> No, I thought they they looked very good
[24:07]
and I know you guys uh had challenges
[24:10]
with that site and uh um trying to make
[24:13]
these things work uh isn't always easy.
[24:16]
Um I'm assuming that was the case.
[24:19]
>> Part of it. Yes.
[24:20]
>> Yeah. Well, thank you. Appreciate that.
[24:23]
Anyone else? How many units to the
[24:25]
multif family?
[24:26]
>> We're looking at 200 of the apartments
[24:28]
plus or minus. Um the two other people
[24:31]
I've talked to about doing it with are
[24:32]
about 150 to 180. We're looking at a
[24:36]
portion that would be single family for
[24:37]
rent and town home for rent as well.
[24:40]
Again, not definitive numbers, but no
[24:41]
more than 100 is what we're thinking
[24:43]
right now. Um single family
[24:45]
approximately 100. Ranch villas just
[24:47]
over that. And the town homes are the
[24:50]
terrace homes just over that.
[24:52]
and Jacob, there wouldn't be an issue
[24:55]
with um I guess developing the
[24:59]
multifamily portions before the single
[25:02]
family portions would there.
[25:03]
>> I I generally like doing multif family
[25:05]
first because once you got the single
[25:07]
family in, no one ever wants to multif
[25:10]
family coming in next to them. So that's
[25:12]
usually why I like multif family first.
[25:13]
>> Good point. Sure.
[25:14]
>> Yeah,
[25:16]
>> there you go. Just a question for you,
[25:19]
Scott. As far as the the terrace
[25:20]
terraces here, from a parking
[25:23]
standpoint, do they have their own
[25:24]
parking? Do they have are they parking
[25:27]
on the street or how does that work?
[25:28]
>> Every unit has a two-car garage along
[25:30]
with a 24T pad behind it. So, each one
[25:33]
can take four cars and they're rear
[25:35]
loaded off of an alleyway for appearance
[25:37]
as well.
[25:38]
>> Excellent.
[25:39]
>> Yes,
[25:40]
it's good.
[25:42]
>> Anyone else?
[25:42]
>> Good.
[25:43]
>> I think they look great.
[25:45]
>> No, it's uh
[25:46]
>> they look really good. Yes, looks great,
[25:49]
Scott. We we appreciate the work you've
[25:51]
put into this and uh of the ones that
[25:54]
have come before us, this one is looking
[25:56]
very very good. So, appreciate it.
[25:58]
>> Thank you. And thank you for your time.
[26:01]
>> Thank you.
[26:03]
>> Um and at this point, I I see you just
[26:06]
have this marked as discussion,
[26:07]
>> correct? Yeah. Uh so that there won't be
[26:09]
any action as
[26:11]
>> No, it's just feedback for the developer
[26:12]
to go back and if they have to change
[26:14]
anything in their in their designs or
[26:16]
any number changes that you'd like to
[26:19]
see or anything like that or uh it is
[26:21]
also going in front of the common
[26:22]
council the conceptual at the at the
[26:24]
next common council meeting.
[26:26]
>> Okay. Um and I'm sure you went over this
[26:28]
and if you had any issues I I would have
[26:31]
thought you would have brought them up
[26:32]
by now and
[26:33]
>> we would had Yeah, we would have brought
[26:34]
them up already.
[26:35]
>> Sure. Super. Well, no. Well, appreciate
[26:37]
it again. Thank you. Uh, so then on to
[26:40]
item eight, uh, adjournment.
[26:42]
>> Make a motion to adjourn.
[26:43]
>> Motion by Dave,
[26:45]
>> second by Tom to adjurnn. Any final
[26:47]
discussions or comments? Seeing none,
[26:49]
all those in favor signify by saying I.
[26:51]
Oppose. Nay. We are adjourned.