[0:00] Good evening everyone and welcome. I'd

[0:02] like to call the city of Homestead City

[0:04] Council meeting to order. Today is

[0:07] Wednesday, April 22nd, 2026

[0:10] and it is now 6:01

[0:14] p.m. This evening we'll have the

[0:16] invocation by Reverend Michael Styles.

[0:18] Is uh Reverend Styles here? Is he here?

[0:23] >> Don't see him yet.

[0:27] Councilman Fletcher, would you mind? So,

[0:29] the invocation by Councilman Fletcher,

[0:31] followed by the uh pledge of allegiance

[0:34] with Councilman Fletcher and the

[0:35] Homestead Police Explorers. You please

[0:37] rise.

[0:41] Heavenly Father, we come to you with

[0:44] grateful hearts today and we thank you

[0:46] for your mercy and your grace. We ask

[0:49] you today for your wisdom to guide us to

[0:51] make the right decisions

[0:53] for our community. And we ask that you

[0:56] bless all of those who are in this

[0:57] chamber this evening

[1:00] and that you watch over the city

[1:03] employees, our first responders,

[1:07] our folks protecting our country around

[1:08] the world.

[1:10] And we ask these in your gracious name.

[1:13] Amen.

[1:14] >> Amen.

[1:15] >> Please join me on the pledge.

[1:32] left

[1:35] right

[1:52] Please join me

[1:54] >> all.

[1:57] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

[2:00] United States of America and to the

[2:02] republic for which it stands, one nation

[2:06] under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[2:09] justice for all.

[2:18] the face

[2:21] forward.

[2:26] The the right

[2:33] Thank you. Please be seated.

[2:38] Okay, at this time we will now uh open

[2:41] the floor for public comments

[2:44] as to any issue. Um, please be advised

[2:48] that uh now is the time to speak on any

[2:51] agenda issue with the exception of at

[2:54] the time any quadial

[2:57] quasi judicial item or land use item is

[3:00] called up, you will have the opportunity

[3:03] to uh to speak at that time. So yes,

[3:09] getting ahead of myself on the agenda.

[3:11] Thank you, Councilman. Roll call, Madam

[3:13] Clerk.

[3:13] >> Councilman Cannibal.

[3:15] >> Yes. Councilwoman Abula

[3:17] >> here.

[3:17] >> Counciloman Roth

[3:18] >> here.

[3:18] >> Councilman Fletcher

[3:19] >> here.

[3:20] >> Councilwoman Ksky

[3:21] >> here.

[3:22] >> Vice Mayor Bailey here.

[3:23] >> Mayor Losman

[3:24] >> here.

[3:25] >> Now, as I was saying, public comments.

[3:29] Is there anyone wishing to make a

[3:31] comment as to any issue, any agenda item

[3:35] with the exception of a land use quasi

[3:38] or quasi judicial item. Please come

[3:42] forward. Give us your name and address

[3:43] for the record. And please limit your

[3:45] comments to three minutes.

[3:49] Now note for the record that no one has

[3:52] appeared to sign to have pre-registered.

[3:55] So we'll call calling from the floor

[3:56] now. Hi, good evening. Welcome.

[3:59] >> Hi, my name is Ariel. Good evening

[4:01] everything. This is Claudia is my

[4:04] translation for today for tonight.

[4:08] » Good evening. My name is Claudia

[4:10] Gonzalez and I tried to interpret it to

[4:13] earlier.

[4:37] Uh good evening everyone. Um I came two

[4:41] months ago and I asked him about prop uh

[4:44] proposed um

[4:48] ordinance

[4:50] and I think um Miss uh Erica present

[4:54] about it and she want to know about

[4:56] what's uh is the followup for that.

[5:01] >> What what was the subject matter of the

[5:03] ordinance?

[5:08] Uh it is a safety drive.

[5:45] I try to remind everything. Um I want to

[5:49] know it is important the life of the uh

[5:52] community and that's what um she want to

[5:56] uh she want to know about the the

[5:59] resource if it I she know that someone

[6:02] she bring information to somebody else

[6:08] and she want to know what is uh the

[6:11] reser does her opinion

[6:16] » council phone.

[6:19] >> Thank you, Mayor.

[6:20] >> I was just going to see if the reminder

[6:21] was I think it was about cell phone

[6:23] usage, texting while driving and those

[6:26] things, right?

[6:27] >> Yes. She says about the driving and

[6:30] texting and it's about different

[6:33] accidents is in the community about that

[6:35] and that is the um

[6:39] >> so I'm not sure what what what they

[6:41] want.

[6:42] >> I I can speak to this. Yes. So I thank

[6:45] you. Thank you for asking about it. It

[6:47] has not formally come to the council yet

[6:50] for review. What I can say is that back

[6:54] in February, I did request for our city

[6:57] manager to work with our police

[7:00] department and with legal to investigate

[7:03] different um uh possibilities on how we

[7:06] can reinforce safer driving um code and

[7:10] language to give more power to our

[7:12] police department to um site people for

[7:15] distracted driving and to um just be

[7:18] stricter on cell phone usage to save to

[7:20] reduce traffic and accidents. Um I know

[7:23] that our attorney apped on it like next

[7:27] day. So did Chief Knap and that

[7:29] information um I believe is still in the

[7:33] works with our city manager's office. I

[7:35] have not received a response,

[7:38] but do you have maybe you have an

[7:40] update?

[7:41] >> No, I think at the at the set council

[7:43] meeting the city attorney that this is

[7:45] subject to Florida statute 316 which

[7:48] preempts local government. Uh Mr.

[7:51] Satony, correct me if I understand it. I

[7:53] understood you correctly.

[7:54] >> No, there are two statutes that cover

[7:57] texting while driving and it is covered

[7:59] in chapter 316. Um we're pre the cities

[8:03] are preempted from local regulation, but

[8:05] there are traffic site uniform traffic

[8:07] citations that can be issued under 316

[8:09] under existing law without the city

[8:11] doing anything. There's it's just a

[8:13] question of you know enforcement. It's

[8:16] not a question of uh having enabling

[8:19] legislation in order to prevent it.

[8:23] >> If I may, the

[8:25] this is something that I would like for

[8:27] the city manager's office to look into.

[8:29] The the request at the time was for a

[8:32] briefing to be put together for for us

[8:34] to discuss further. We haven't had that

[8:36] briefing yet with the results of what

[8:38] the the council and the uh police

[8:41] department's um advice and

[8:44] recommendations and and um and research

[8:47] provided so that we can then come back

[8:49] with a potential uh ordinance for

[8:52] consideration. But um thank you for for

[8:55] reminding us of the urgency of the

[8:57] matter that there was direction that

[8:59] went out right after that meeting. It

[9:01] might have been the next day or the day

[9:02] after. And I know that we did have um

[9:05] some information and research conducted.

[9:08] So I will continue to make it a priority

[9:10] and and they're hearing it now as well.

[9:11] So thank you.

[9:12] >> Thank you very much. Thank you.

[9:13] >> Thank you.

[9:16] >> Right,

[9:22] » Mr. Mayor.

[9:23] >> Yes. Also, just for information, Pastor

[9:25] Styles has arrived. If you'd like him to

[9:27] rebess us.

[9:39] Good evening, Mayor and Council, and all

[9:41] of our distinguished public servants in

[9:44] your capacities. Our names, Shandra

[9:47] Mallerie, Janette Mallalerie, 45 year

[9:49] residents here in the city of Homestead,

[9:52] and I just come before you tonight to

[9:54] humbly ask that we consider

[9:57] >> Yes, sir.

[9:59] Sorry.

[10:00] I humbly come before you tonight to ask

[10:02] that we consider two things. One, the

[10:05] flow of traffic in the southwest

[10:06] section. It is becoming an ultimate

[10:09] nightmare to cross Flaggler Street

[10:11] during the operating hours of, let's

[10:13] say, 10 to 12 on the weekends, which

[10:16] becomes an inconvenience for families

[10:18] that are, you know, trying to move

[10:19] around the city. And the code

[10:22] enforcement, um, we are homeowners. We

[10:26] have been homeowners for almost 50 years

[10:28] now. And I think there seems to be some

[10:32] sort of confusion as it pertains to the

[10:36] homeowners association type of

[10:38] restrictions versus homeowners, single

[10:41] family homeowners. So we just humbly ask

[10:43] that we consider those of us that have

[10:46] been in the committ community for many

[10:48] years and that have tithes in our

[10:50] properties and have worked hard to

[10:52] accumulate the things that we do possess

[10:54] at our properties. So, um I don't know

[10:57] if this is the meeting to discuss it,

[11:00] but at some level, can we consider those

[11:02] of us that have been here for longtime

[11:05] residents and we do accumulate things at

[11:08] our properties that we like to keep and

[11:11] we don't like to be told what to do with

[11:14] it because we work hard to earn these

[11:16] things. So, I just ask that the council

[11:18] keep us in mind as we move forward with

[11:20] the things that we propose and impose on

[11:23] those of us taxpaying citizens that have

[11:26] been here for almost 50 years now. Thank

[11:29] you.

[11:30] >> Thank you. Always good to see you here.

[11:32] >> Likewise.

[11:35] » Anyone else? Last call for public

[11:37] comments.

[11:44] » Good evening. Brandy Ramirez, 2231

[11:46] Southeast First Street. Um, I just

[11:49] wanted to piggyback in regards to I

[11:51] think there's an item that you'll be

[11:52] discussing today in regards to boats in the yard or association. Um, and just

[11:59] like she mentioned, a lot of people work

[12:00] hard for items that they have. So, just

[12:02] take us into consideration making those

[12:04] type of decisions. But I also just

[12:06] wanted to come and share. Um, I do

[12:09] notice uh some community uh residents

[12:12] mentioning code enforcement going into

[12:14] gated communities and that they're

[12:16] having some issues or concerns um about

[12:19] that. But I wanted to share that as a

[12:21] resident that lives in a gated

[12:23] community, I had a very positive um

[12:25] interaction uh with code enforcement and

[12:28] a positive interaction with the

[12:30] permitting department, the building

[12:31] department. So, I wanted to thank um

[12:34] code enforcement, the director and the

[12:36] manager for taking the time uh to

[12:39] explain me the proper, you know,

[12:42] procedures and and the process to go

[12:44] through it to make sure we correct um

[12:47] some permitting um concerns and then the

[12:50] building um uh department and the

[12:52] permitting uh Nora has been great. Um

[12:55] I'm looking forward to working with the

[12:57] other building people to to complete.

[12:59] I've already completed one and in the

[13:01] process of finishing the other one. So,

[13:03] I think we should as residents, it's not

[13:06] always negative or complaints, but to

[13:08] also praise the different departments

[13:11] when they're doing their best to assist

[13:12] us as residents. So, just wanted to

[13:14] share that and I look forward to seeing

[13:16] the different things that you guys

[13:17] continue to do in the city. Thank you.

[13:22] >> Again, last call for public comments.

[13:30] We'll get you to the microphone one way

[13:32] or the other tonight. Pastor Styles,

[13:34] >> good evening. Uh I do apologize for my

[13:36] tardiness. Um however, uh two one

[13:40] concern, two concerns. Um the light that

[13:43] is at US1 and I want to say where

[13:48] I guess that's Domino's or the peace

[13:50] places. It needs a turning signal. That

[13:53] is one reason why I'm late. I sat to

[13:55] that like 25 minutes, but people can't

[13:58] get to make a left-hand turn to get onto

[14:01] US1 or come straight to come into city

[14:03] hall. It's very confusing. Um especially

[14:07] when you got to zoom around and then

[14:08] you're scared that whoever's going to

[14:09] turn left going back north of ESUS1 or

[14:14] who's going to turn south to go back

[14:15] south towards Florida City, it's going

[14:17] to be accidents there if there has not

[14:19] been many accidents there. And every

[14:22] time, no matter how early I leave from

[14:24] the east side, it still takes 25 minutes

[14:27] to get through just that one light.

[14:32] Second, uh the road that is being torn

[14:36] up, I think I've said this a number of

[14:39] times, uh right in front of the

[14:41] hospital. Uh I have personally had to

[14:45] have my vehicle realigned four times

[14:49] because of the water line that they've

[14:51] dug up to be able to tap into the big

[14:54] development that's right there in front

[14:56] of Publix.

[14:57] It is a safety hazard. It is a great

[15:02] safety hazard. I do want to say thanks

[15:04] to the city for correcting the deep

[15:07] potholes that have been had two flat

[15:09] tires by a racetrack.

[15:11] So, it is an ongoing um an ongoing

[15:16] building project, but it is a nuisance

[15:19] to road hazards as well. So, those are

[15:21] only two things and I do apologize about

[15:23] my targets.

[15:25] >> Thank you, pastor.

[15:27] >> Okay, we have one online. Okay, let's

[15:31] hear who's on the line. I bet I know.

[15:34] >> Uh Anivo Garcia. Oh,

[15:36] >> okay. No,

[15:38] please go ahead.

[15:44] » If you're on the line, go ahead if you

[15:45] can hear us.

[15:53] » There you go.

[15:54] >> There we go. Can you hear me?

[15:56] >> We can. Yes. Thank you.

[15:58] >> Okay. My my name is Aniva Garcia and I

[16:01] am here today on behalf of the Florida

[16:03] Department of Health in Miami Dade

[16:05] County tobacco prevention and control

[16:07] program in support of the smoke-free

[16:10] parks ordinance before you today. Uh

[16:13] this ordinance is important because it

[16:15] protects our youth and preserves the

[16:17] environment within the city of

[16:18] Homestead's park system. And we know

[16:21] that youth vaping continues to rise and

[16:24] many young people mistakenly believe

[16:26] that vaping is safe when in reality

[16:28] these products contain nicotine which

[16:30] can harm brain development and lead to

[16:33] lifelong addiction which we all know.

[16:35] When smoking or vaping is uh visible in

[16:38] parks, spaces designed for families and

[16:41] recreation, it normalizes that behavior.

[16:44] And passing this ordinance helps shift

[16:47] that norm and sends a clear message that

[16:50] our parks are places for health, not

[16:53] harm. Uh there is also a growing

[16:55] environmental concern. Disposable vapes

[16:57] are made of plastic and contain lithium

[17:00] ion batteries which when left behind

[17:02] they become hazardous waste leaking

[17:05] chemicals into our soil and waterways

[17:07] and posting potential uh fire risk fire

[17:11] risk uh especially in our South Florida

[17:13] climate. So this is in addition to

[17:15] cigarette litter which already impacts

[17:18] the cleanliness and safety of our parks

[17:20] as well. Uh this ordinance is not about

[17:22] punishment. It is about prevention. And

[17:25] with proper signage and community

[17:27] education, smoke-free park policies are

[17:29] highly effective and voluntary

[17:31] compliance. They reduce exposure,

[17:33] decrease litter, and they create a

[17:35] safer, cleaner environments for

[17:37] everyone, including our youth. By

[17:39] passing this ordinance, the city of

[17:41] Homestead is taking a proactive step to

[17:43] protect its youth, support public

[17:45] health, and safeguard its natural

[17:47] spaces. I respectfully urge you to

[17:50] support this ordinance. Thank you.

[17:52] >> Thank you. Thank you for calling in. We

[17:54] appreciate your input. Very, very

[17:56] important and uh informative. So, thank

[17:58] you again.

[18:00] Is there anyone else online?

[18:03] >> Okay.

[18:05] All right. Um we have a lot of lengthy

[18:08] presentations tonight and a very long

[18:10] agenda. So, if I could have the

[18:14] opportunity, I have a couple of

[18:15] appointments I'd like to make. I think

[18:17] one of them, one of the potential

[18:19] appointees are here. I think Councilman

[18:21] Davis, former Councilman Davis is under

[18:23] the weather, is not able to join us. But

[18:26] if I could go ahead and uh get your

[18:30] voice boat vote confirming uh the

[18:33] appointment of Natasha Alivera and Tom

[18:36] Davis to fill the two vacancies by

[18:39] virtue of term expiration to the

[18:41] Homestead Housing Authority. There any

[18:44] objections?

[18:46] All in favor?

[18:47] >> I. Thank you all. All right. We are very

[18:51] fortunate this evening to have uh us

[18:55] company in our people's house.

[18:59] I like to call her our third

[19:00] commissioner. I don't think she likes me

[19:02] to say that publicly, but but I have to.

[19:05] But our very own Miami Dade County

[19:07] Commissioner, District 7, Raquel

[19:09] Regalado. Welcome and thank you.

[19:17] Well, there are three commissioners that

[19:19] represent South Date and I am one of

[19:20] them. So, there you have it. Right. Um,

[19:23] first and foremost, it's always such a

[19:24] pleasure to be here with you all in

[19:26] Homestead. You're doing such amazing

[19:28] work. As many of you know, uh, I am the

[19:31] county commissioner of District 7. I was

[19:33] a school board member before, but here

[19:35] I'm really in here in my capacity as the

[19:38] proud mother of two neurode divergent

[19:40] adults. I want to thank all of you for

[19:42] raising the flag. It was such a

[19:44] beautiful event to have our families

[19:46] come out. Um, and this year my roll out

[19:50] has been a little bit different. Um,

[19:52] what I did was capture the body of work.

[19:55] Um, I've done a lot of things in Miami

[19:57] date county as pilots trying to prove a

[20:00] concept and that's what I want to share

[20:02] with with all of you and with all of

[20:05] Florida for that matter. So, uh, what I

[20:07] launched, uh, on April 2nd is the

[20:09] Florida Neuroincclusion Toolkit. So,

[20:13] it's actually a collection of all the

[20:15] legislation, the data, and everything

[20:18] that we've been doing over the last 10

[20:20] years. Um, just generally to explain why

[20:24] neurodeiversity and not autism. Um,

[20:27] neurodeiversity just includes a lot more

[20:29] humans. My both of my children are in

[20:31] the autism spectrum, but a lot of

[20:33] autistic individuals are diagnosed with

[20:36] another um another uh neurode divergent

[20:40] symptom. And in the case of my daughter

[20:42] when she was an adolescent, even though

[20:44] she had been diagnosed um in the

[20:46] spectrum, she was also diagnosed with

[20:48] ADHD. So she has ADHD. And there are a

[20:51] lot of autistic children and adults that

[20:54] are autistic with dyslexia, autistic

[20:56] with epilepsy. It's actually very common

[20:59] for neurodeiversity to ride together is

[21:01] what we call it. So when we talk about

[21:04] autism, right now we're at one in 31 um

[21:08] in terms of the diagnosis, but when we

[21:10] talk about neurodeiversity, we're

[21:12] actually one in five because there's

[21:15] that many people. Uh and I say it

[21:18] because um neurodeiversity includes

[21:20] dyslexia, epilepsy, ADHD, autism,

[21:24] Tourette's. It also includes at the very

[21:27] top people who suffer from traumatic

[21:28] brain injury and become neurodeiverse as

[21:31] a result of that. And then on the other

[21:33] side of the spectrum we have

[21:35] neurological decline. So the first ones

[21:38] that I mentioned were neurological

[21:39] delay. So they get better with time. But

[21:42] then we have neurological decline which

[21:43] is dementia and Alzheimer's. And a lot

[21:46] of the work that we do for autism

[21:49] actually fits everybody in the entire

[21:52] spectrum. So I think that once you put

[21:54] it in that perspective, you start seeing

[21:56] that these are not outliers and it's not

[21:58] just about April and October. Uh but

[22:00] it's really about providing an entry

[22:03] point u for individuals when we talk

[22:06] about government. So, um, I used to be

[22:09] at the school board and I love talking

[22:11] about ed, but when I got to the county,

[22:13] I did, um, some research with Urban

[22:15] Impact Lab. Uh, specifically, we were

[22:18] dealing with employment for people with

[22:19] disabilities. And what we found is that

[22:22] the biggest obstacles were not at the

[22:25] employment side or not at the education

[22:27] side. It was the transportation. It was

[22:31] access to an ID. It was being arrested

[22:34] or bakered. These are all government

[22:36] functions that we actually have the

[22:39] domain over. So people could do as much

[22:41] as they want on the ed side and on the

[22:43] employment side, but if we don't push

[22:46] through those barriers, then they never

[22:48] even get to that opportunity. So that's

[22:50] what the toolkit does. Uh the idea is uh

[22:54] for people to replicate it. It has all

[22:56] of the data, you know, what we've

[22:58] tracked, what we've done. As many of you

[23:00] know, my first item at the at Miami date

[23:03] county was um training for all of our

[23:05] departments. In the toolkit, it says

[23:07] that we've trained uh 2,120

[23:10] uh first responders. Um, that's because

[23:13] that was the last report and I wanted to

[23:15] mention the report, but as of today,

[23:17] we've trained 4,125

[23:19] first responders in Miami date county in

[23:22] person, actually meeting autistic adults

[23:25] and hearing from those autistic adults,

[23:28] what that interaction felt like. So, not

[23:31] a video, not a tutorial, but actually

[23:34] meeting them and speaking with them and

[23:36] understanding from them and from their

[23:37] caregivers what that interaction looks

[23:40] like. And that has reduced the baker,

[23:42] that has reduced unnecessary arrest, and

[23:44] it has really changed the dynamic of our

[23:47] um police and fire as they enter uh into

[23:50] people's homes. The sheriff has been

[23:52] very supportive. Um when the when the

[23:56] police was under the county, I launched

[23:58] uh the decal, which is the occupant with

[24:00] autism decal that's available to

[24:02] everyone all over the county. um and it

[24:04] goes into your 911 system just like our

[24:06] 911 system and that allows you to

[24:09] register and to put the actual

[24:11] information of deescalation for that

[24:13] person. So for example, my daughter

[24:15] Isabella is very different from my son

[24:18] Sebastian. When I registered both of

[24:20] them, I put Bella her deescalation,

[24:22] Sebastian his deescalation, right?

[24:24] They're two very different people and

[24:26] how you would approach them at a point

[24:28] of crisis is very different. Um the

[24:31] sheriff uh this April added to the home

[24:34] registration

[24:36] um a vehicle registration. So now you

[24:39] can register your vehicle and you can

[24:40] say there might be a neurode divergent

[24:42] person in this vehicle so that when the

[24:44] police officer or fire pulls up your tag

[24:47] now they're on alert and they can see

[24:48] that same information. So it's so

[24:52] important to do training. Um at the

[24:54] county we've trained everyone in our

[24:55] parks department, everyone in our

[24:57] libraries. All 50 of our libraries not

[24:59] only have training, they have social

[25:01] stories, they have sensory kits, they

[25:03] have sensory activities, the larger ones

[25:05] have sensory rooms. And we've really

[25:07] opened up those public spaces um for our

[25:10] residents and it's wonderful to see them

[25:12] finally coming into those spaces because

[25:15] most of our families just stay home and

[25:18] that's why you don't hear from them. But

[25:20] not all of it costs a lot of money. We

[25:22] actually did the training with NSU card

[25:24] which is a resource to everyone. They do

[25:26] it for the cost. they're not making

[25:28] money from from the endeavor and they're

[25:30] a state resource. Um there's seven cards

[25:32] in the state and everyone can um can

[25:34] contact their cards. But a lot of the

[25:37] information that I have in here is

[25:39] simple things. So for the youth fair for

[25:41] example, they worked the first year with

[25:43] NSU card and they started a sensory room

[25:46] and we did a social story. The second

[25:48] year I worked with them and we did a

[25:49] sensory map where you can show um

[25:52] sensory areas and how you could walk the

[25:54] fair a little bit different. And then

[25:56] this year we did sensory hours. So we

[25:58] had sensory hours every Saturday and

[26:00] Sunday from 12:00 to 3. And that was

[26:02] simply turning off the music and turning

[26:04] off the lights. And I will tell you even

[26:06] the neurotypical people loved it.

[26:09] Everyone really liked it at a lower

[26:11] pace. And that as I mentioned is really

[26:13] important for all neurodeiverse people.

[26:16] So back to um Alzheimer's and dementia,

[26:19] most people think that the first sign of

[26:21] that is actually is forgetfulness. That

[26:23] is not the case. The first sign of

[26:26] neurological decline is sensory

[26:28] overload. 89% of people who have

[26:31] dementia and Alzheimer's, that is the

[26:33] first sign. They have issues with lights

[26:35] and sounds and textures in the same way

[26:38] that autistic people do and other

[26:40] neurodeiverse people do. So, um, at our

[26:43] airport, we actually and at all of our

[26:45] transit stations, we have the sunflower

[26:47] lanyard. Um, so you can get it from me,

[26:49] you can get it from the airport, you can

[26:50] sign up and get it yourself. Uh but this

[26:53] is a lanyard that we use nationally uh

[26:56] to denote invisible disabilities and

[26:59] this you know it comes with a training

[27:01] and that way everyone knows that that

[27:02] person may need some extra help. The

[27:05] same thing um with the work that we're

[27:07] doing with the decal uh and the sheriff.

[27:10] I'm actually having an event uh at

[27:12] Betham this Saturday where the sheriff

[27:14] is going to be there and the tax

[27:16] collector and we're going to be doing

[27:17] the registrations there for everyone.

[27:20] The tax collector partnered with us

[27:21] through this last year and we

[27:23] established neuroincclusion days. So in

[27:26] the state of Florida, you can have um a

[27:29] state ID starting at 5 years old. Two

[27:31] years ago, they changed the law that

[27:33] allows you to place your disability

[27:36] voluntarily on your state ID. That means

[27:39] that if you have a six-year-old, an

[27:40] eight-year-old, an 18-year-old, a 22

[27:42] year old that's in the spectrum, they

[27:44] can have a Florida issued ID that has

[27:46] their picture and has their disability

[27:49] and will serve as evidence of that

[27:52] disability. We have a lot of parents

[27:54] walking around with a diagnosis from

[27:55] 2003 and a birth certificate because

[27:58] since their child doesn't drive, they

[28:00] haven't gotten a license. But without an

[28:03] ID, they are at risk. without an ID,

[28:05] they can't volunteer, they can't work,

[28:07] and they can't even prove their

[28:09] identity. So, we're really pushing the

[28:11] IDs, getting parents to understand that

[28:13] whether they want to put the disability

[28:15] on there or not, this is a tool that

[28:17] they need specifically to travel. At

[28:20] MIA, we have an amazing program that's

[28:22] available to all Miami Day County

[28:23] residents. It's called MIA Air. It's a

[28:26] dress rehearsal where we take the kids

[28:29] uh through the entire experience with

[28:30] their caregivers. So, they get to the

[28:32] airport, they get their boarding pass,

[28:34] they go through TSA, we sign them up for

[28:36] CSA Cares, they board the plane, they

[28:38] meet the pilot, and then we go buy them

[28:40] Chick-fil-A. Who doesn't like

[28:41] Chick-fil-A? Uh, and we show them the

[28:44] sensory rooms, but it allows them to

[28:46] walk through the experience so that when

[28:48] they go for real on a trip, they don't

[28:51] have a meltdown because they've never

[28:52] been there. It comes with a social story

[28:54] in English and in Spanish and we're with

[28:56] them the entire time and we take their

[28:58] teachers with them in order to make the

[29:00] experience a pleasant one. So those are

[29:02] some of the things uh that we've been

[29:04] doing uh in Miami Day that's in the

[29:06] toolkit. Um the other thing that's in

[29:08] the toolkit is the use of April and

[29:10] October as really goal setting moments

[29:14] and looking at what we're doing in our

[29:16] communities. So, we have April, which is

[29:19] obviously um autism acceptance, and we

[29:21] talk about what we've done. But October

[29:23] is disability employment, and we really

[29:26] focus on opening opportunities there at

[29:28] the county, what I've asked the county

[29:30] to do is to um change the way that they

[29:33] hire. So instead of putting on LinkedIn

[29:35] that you want someone um that has good

[29:38] communication skills, an autistic person

[29:41] will never apply for that. Um to allow

[29:44] people to come in and rather than

[29:46] focusing on eye contact and them talking

[29:48] to you, to actually let them do the

[29:50] work. Let them do the work, especially

[29:52] if it's in the area of tech, and let the

[29:55] work speak for itself and not hold them

[29:57] to a very neurotypical standard of

[29:59] hiring so that they can have an

[30:01] opportunity. I've also opened up our

[30:03] internships so that we have to you know

[30:05] interview neurode diverent people and

[30:06] give them those opportunities. And

[30:08] finally um also in the toolkit is our

[30:11] zero drowning initiative which is a

[30:13] countywide initiative that I know you

[30:15] guys know about. Um I changed it to

[30:17] include uh neurodeiverse individuals

[30:20] specifically autistic children and

[30:22] adults because irrespective of age the

[30:24] number one cause of death for autistic

[30:26] people is drowning irrespective of age.

[30:29] Um, and that is because water is a form

[30:31] of sensory relief. They seek water, they

[30:34] run to water, and if they do not know

[30:37] how to swim, many of them drown. So,

[30:39] it's been um a priority for me and for

[30:43] the children's trucks to provide folks

[30:45] with as much information about the need

[30:48] to teach um individuals in the spectrum

[30:50] how to swim um and how long-term it

[30:54] really is a wonderful uh commitment and

[30:57] endeavor. Um, so with that, I'm here to

[30:59] answer any and all questions that you

[31:00] may have. There's a lot more in the

[31:02] toolkit. It was emailed to you. Um, and

[31:05] also I have the QR codes here so that

[31:08] you can check it out. It has um, the

[31:11] legislation, social stories, how to do

[31:13] all these things, how to do sensory

[31:15] events, and I'm happy to help um, you

[31:18] navigate all of that because the last

[31:19] thing I want you to do is use your

[31:21] resources of getting a consultant. Just

[31:23] give me a call and we could do it

[31:25] together. you've been such wonderful

[31:27] partners and there's such a need in the

[31:29] south to talk more specifically about

[31:32] neurodeiversity.

[31:38] Thank you so much commissioner for being

[31:40] here tonight and for sharing this very

[31:42] valuable information and I do hope that

[31:44] we can be advocates to continue the

[31:46] messaging and to incorporate a lot of

[31:48] the tools that you're mentioning into

[31:50] our process um improvement plans for the

[31:52] future. I do have a question regarding

[31:54] the uh police department's access for

[31:56] the vehicle registration at the county

[31:58] level. Is that automatically generating

[32:00] for our officers?

[32:01] >> Yes.

[32:02] >> Perfect. Yes.

[32:02] >> And then with regards to the trainings

[32:04] that you mentioned, has that already

[32:06] been done? Do we know for for our police

[32:08] department?

[32:09] >> So, we trained our Miami day county

[32:11] police officers,

[32:12] >> right?

[32:13] >> So, I don't know what what you guys are

[32:15] doing and if you've reached out,

[32:17] >> maybe speak to that. Chief, can you

[32:18] speak to that? Yes, we do training

[32:20] yearly and as a matter of fact, as a

[32:22] result of some grant money that we

[32:24] found, we're going to have some autism

[32:25] training coming up, but we do do it

[32:27] every year.

[32:28] >> Thank you for that. I I would love the

[32:30] opportunity for perhaps comparing the

[32:32] training that we've been doing and what

[32:33] we're going to be doing compared to what

[32:34] the county is doing so that we at least

[32:36] are making sure that we're touching all

[32:38] bases and and well-rounded training.

[32:40] >> So, autism training is a state

[32:42] requirement, but it's an unfunded

[32:44] mandate, you know, as as the chief all

[32:45] knows. about. Yes, we you all know about

[32:48] those. Um, so there is a lot out there

[32:52] in terms of um virtual training. Uh, but

[32:56] I'm happy to work with you all and and

[32:57] get card out here. We have some great

[33:00] individuals. One in particular named

[33:01] Kent. He actually lives in Gasapia now.

[33:04] Um, and he comes and talks to the

[33:06] officers about his particular

[33:08] experience. And I will say talking to

[33:11] autistic adults that have been detained,

[33:14] it is really a gamecher. when we talk

[33:16] about deescalation,

[33:18] >> right? And I have not heard that we're

[33:19] doing that kind of one-on-one

[33:20] face-to-face type of engagement. So, I I

[33:22] would love to see that get incorporated

[33:24] with our police department. Um, with

[33:26] regards to inclusivity and inclusion

[33:29] efforts, um, I know that we have at

[33:31] least one page within our parks master

[33:33] plan that speaks to this and I would

[33:36] invite you to maybe review that and

[33:38] offer us your insight and ways that we

[33:40] can maybe improve it and and and expand

[33:42] on that. And I know the parks our parks

[33:44] department, our parks director have done

[33:46] a great job in trying to make sure that

[33:47] as we roll in new playgrounds that we're

[33:50] making this a priority, but the plan

[33:53] itself I think could be beefier and I I

[33:55] would love your um input and guidance on

[33:57] that if that's okay.

[33:58] >> Happy happy to do that and happy to work

[34:00] with your parks department. You know,

[34:01] one of the things that's in the toolkit

[34:03] is how to do social stories for all of

[34:05] your parks. Um so parks usually um have

[34:09] ADA compliance full stop. Um what we've

[34:12] done and we've done it in small parks

[34:15] and and larger parks too at the county

[34:17] is um the placement of things is kind of

[34:21] beyond ADA compliant. So certain swings

[34:24] right the height of different things

[34:26] like what we're choosing. Um I don't

[34:29] think there's like an autism playground

[34:31] but you can make it autism friendly

[34:34] right by your selection of certain

[34:36] things. And then the social stories are

[34:38] very easy. you just take pictures of the

[34:40] park and you put it in a PDF and you put

[34:42] it on the website. That's what we've

[34:44] done um at our uh on our parks and then

[34:47] that allows caregivers to see what's

[34:49] there and to show it to them. That way

[34:52] they'll want to go to the park.

[34:55] >> Right. Thank you. Because if they can

[34:56] visualize it ahead of time, the sensory

[34:58] overload at the time is less

[35:00] >> Exactly. It reduces the anxiety.

[35:02] >> Right. And I certainly can appreciate

[35:04] your sunflower um branding on I don't

[35:07] know who came up with that idea, but

[35:08] many here know that I love sunflowers

[35:11] and being in a city where we used to

[35:13] have fields and fields of sunflowers

[35:15] iconic for us and now that's sadly gone

[35:18] away. Uh maybe this is a good time to

[35:20] announce I'm working on a resolution to

[35:21] bring for council consideration making

[35:24] us the sunflower city and potentially

[35:26] rolling that into some of our

[35:27] landscaping initiatives. But I love the uh parallel messaging that we are,

[35:33] you know, we see our autistic families

[35:35] and that we are being as inclusive as we

[35:37] can with respect to making our

[35:39] playgrounds, our police departments, our

[35:41] process improvements, IDs, jobs, etc. a

[35:46] focus priority for for those families.

[35:48] And I think you'll be happy to hear that

[35:50] we did uh roll out a zero drownings

[35:52] initiative program. Yes. with the

[35:54] Children's Trust, which it's not just

[35:56] learning how to swim, but surviving in

[35:58] those environments at a very young age.

[35:59] So, we hope that that mitigates a lot of

[36:02] those um unfortunate deaths. But again,

[36:04] thank you.

[36:05] >> Thank you.

[36:06] >> Hey, Vice Mayor.

[36:08] >> Thank you, Mayor. Definitely. Thank you

[36:10] very much. And you didn't mention um

[36:12] Councilwoman Navila sponsored a portion

[36:14] of ArtWalk this year to have things that

[36:17] were um you know sensory specific for some of our guests that had special

[36:23] needs. So headphones and just different

[36:26] um sensory type uh toys. So we are

[36:29] working on it. One thing that came to

[36:31] mind as you were talking um an idea for

[36:34] the parks. I know that a lot of our

[36:35] special needs um kids and even adults

[36:38] going to parks have headphones. Maybe

[36:40] there's an there's something to do with

[36:42] a QR code that would have some type of

[36:46] um anxiety reducing sounds or something

[36:49] that they might be able to I don't know

[36:52] learn about the park and drown out

[36:54] noises around them.

[36:56] >> So, so we have sensory kits and we have

[36:59] them at libraries and at parks. Um and

[37:01] then also museums that have autism

[37:03] friendly designation have them. Um we

[37:06] also have uh we have um earbuds because

[37:11] depending on the age some of them may

[37:13] not want the headphones. So it's like

[37:15] some very little ones and some very

[37:17] older ones don't want it. So we try to

[37:19] give them those those options. And then

[37:21] in the social stories we also to your

[37:24] point um vice mayor we call out if

[37:27] there's noise. So for example have a

[37:30] beautiful park named Ronan. There's

[37:32] tennis there. So, we're like, "And by

[37:34] the way, these are the tennis courts

[37:36] next to the park, right?" So, we we you

[37:39] know, we give them that information. We

[37:41] have another uh beautiful park in my

[37:43] district that's next to the library.

[37:44] It's a very small park, but we went out

[37:46] of the way um to make it an ADA park um

[37:50] that's right next to the library because

[37:51] of its location. It didn't have like a

[37:54] lot of noise and a lot of movement. So

[37:56] we're focusing on the more passive ones

[37:58] and kind of leading with those and

[38:00] letting parents know that there may be

[38:01] activity in these other in these other

[38:04] parks because sometimes things are just

[38:05] colllocated

[38:07] >> and and there's not much choice. No, I

[38:09] really appreciate all the uh all the

[38:12] headway that you're making. Keep us

[38:14] continuously in the loop so that we can

[38:16] keep working for our um our residents as

[38:19] well. uh one of my favorite preschool

[38:21] students who's now 15 was non-verbal for

[38:23] many years and he's coming tomorrow to

[38:26] read to the kids which is his like new

[38:28] favorite thing is to read to children.

[38:29] Amazing, amazing, amazing. And I and I

[38:32] know you appreciate this, you know, vice

[38:34] mayor because we've talked about it. You

[38:36] know, one of the things that I have and I mentioned it in the toolkit and

[38:39] that's more of an October thing than an

[38:41] April thing is the need to have adult

[38:43] programming. As many of you know, the

[38:45] world ends at 22 and I've really focused

[38:47] on getting people to understand why we

[38:50] need adult programming and how you can

[38:52] colllocate adult programming with

[38:55] individuals that have memory issues. The

[38:58] two communities go very well together.

[39:01] Autistic adults and individuals older

[39:04] individuals that have dementia and

[39:05] Alzheimer's, a lot of the therapies are

[39:07] identical and they usually get along

[39:10] very well. So, a as you look at finding

[39:14] those places, I just want you to

[39:17] consider that our health system was

[39:20] built for elderly people. And what

[39:23] happens after 22 is if you're lucky to

[39:26] have medwaver, someone goes home with

[39:28] you. So we literally graduate our

[39:31] children to the couch. And when we talk

[39:34] about that, everyone's like, "Oh, that's

[39:35] great. You get to watch YouTube. You get

[39:36] to go home." That's fine if you're an

[39:38] elderly person and you're you're the the

[39:42] rest of your life is 7 8 10 11 years.

[39:45] Not when we're sending you home for 50,

[39:48] 65 years. That's what we're doing. Um,

[39:51] and I know that's a little jarring to

[39:53] people when I say it, but it's important

[39:55] because once once we let them go home,

[39:58] it's very hard to get them to go to a

[40:01] program. And that's why I think as a

[40:03] community, we have to start having more

[40:04] events and we have to start talking

[40:06] about adult programming and the benefit

[40:08] of adult programming. I have two

[40:10] children that are very different. One

[40:12] needs less resources um, and was able to

[40:15] attend a program that I helped create at

[40:17] Miami Dade Community College. My

[40:20] daughter needs a lot more resources and

[40:21] a lot more care. Um, he can work with

[40:25] supports. She cannot right now, but she

[40:28] makes jewelry and she gives it away, you

[40:30] know, to the people that go to her adult

[40:32] daycare and she'll tell you that that's

[40:34] her job and and she had she's in

[40:37] vocational training and I think in five

[40:39] or six years she will be able to do some

[40:42] volunteer work. It's a developmental

[40:44] delay. She's 22. Um, but it's a

[40:47] developmental delay. I don't I I can't

[40:50] tell you that she'll never work because

[40:51] I don't think that that's the reality.

[40:53] Much like your your visitor in the next

[40:55] two days, my daughter was non-verbal and

[40:57] I was told that she wouldn't even be

[40:58] able to feed herself and she graduated

[41:00] from a culinary program. So, so much can

[41:03] be done, you know, for these

[41:05] individuals. We just have to give them

[41:06] an opportunity. Um, they just think

[41:09] differently and they experience the

[41:11] world differently. And that's why I

[41:14] really wanted to make it about

[41:15] neuroincclusion because we have to focus

[41:18] on their abilities. They want to work.

[41:20] They want to be part of our society.

[41:22] When my son was working, you know, we

[41:24] talk about the issues that we have with

[41:25] employment and retention and how

[41:27] everybody read the 4-hour work week and

[41:28] it went to their head, a 4-day work week

[41:31] and it went to their head. Um, but my

[41:33] son was upset that there was no work on

[41:35] Labor Day. He wanted to work on Labor

[41:37] Day. He didn't understand why we would

[41:38] take a Monday off. Um, they're amazing

[41:41] workers. They have a Puritan work ethic.

[41:44] They're so excited to be here and to be

[41:47] involved and to be part of community.

[41:50] Um, so if if I have one ask is that as a

[41:54] community we stop graduating them to the

[41:56] couch because they're amazing humans and

[41:58] it's going to be a lot more complicated

[42:00] 10 15 years from now when we have this

[42:03] ever growing population um that is at

[42:06] home with a with a health care aid that

[42:09] really cannot provide for them. And we

[42:11] know that their mental health declines,

[42:12] that their health declines, and that it

[42:14] just spirals into a lot of different

[42:17] issues uh for all of us.

[42:21] » Again, thank you for coming down. And as

[42:23] promised, we've already added your flag

[42:25] to our display back here.

[42:27] >> Thank you.

[42:28] >> It's not not hot air.

[42:30] >> Yes.

[42:31] >> Yeah. I want to say something. Of

[42:33] course.

[42:33] >> Yeah. I want to thank you for being

[42:34] here. Okay. And I want to congratulation

[42:37] in this toolkit. The neuro inclusion

[42:39] toolkit is amazing. I think it's a

[42:41] proactive tool. Okay. That can avoid a

[42:44] lot of things bad things happening to

[42:46] these to these kids. So, thank you for

[42:49] that. Okay.

[42:50] >> Thank you. Thank you so much.

[42:52] >> Before you take off, we're going to

[42:54] deviate from the agenda just a little

[42:56] bit.

[42:57] >> Uh colleagues, we have in front of us a resolution regarding

[43:02] >> the conveyance of a county parcel to the

[43:05] city. It should be laying here

[43:08] somewhere. It's that uh Thank you. It's

[43:11] a property that the county has declared

[43:13] surplus that we have requested be and

[43:17] it's part of the county parks

[43:18] department. It's vacant property

[43:21] surrounded by thousands of units. Um for

[43:25] frame of reference, Miss Ramirez, it's

[43:27] the 10 acres immediately south of of

[43:30] your neighborhood.

[43:32] Um, so this has been an initiative by

[43:35] Councilman Cannibal working with our our

[43:37] city manager. So, Mr. Pearl, if if you

[43:40] would read that resolution by title

[43:45] » have the paper copy in front of me.

[43:46] Nobody put it on my

[43:49] >> He needs a Josh has got it.

[43:54] >> We're going to do this. She's here.

[43:56] should have.

[43:58] >> Uh, this is a resolution of the city

[43:59] council of the city of Homestead,

[44:00] Florida, requesting Miami Dade County to

[44:02] convey certain county-owned property

[44:04] identified by folio number

[44:06] 10-7917-001-0580

[44:11] to the city of Homestead for public park

[44:12] purposes, authorizing the city manager

[44:14] to accept the property on behalf of the

[44:16] city and take any action necessary to

[44:18] effectuate the transfer, providing for

[44:20] implementation, providing for transmitt,

[44:22] and providing for an effective date.

[44:24] >> Thank you, Mr. Manager, anything to add?

[44:27] >> Uh, nothing much other than that. Uh,

[44:29] >> do you have this

[44:29] >> commissioner? Welcome. We've already met

[44:32] with county staff regarding this uh

[44:34] potential conveyance. County staff is

[44:37] very excit excited and they want to work

[44:39] with us. Hopefully by before you go on

[44:43] vacation in August, they promised us

[44:45] that there's going to be traction on

[44:46] this. So, we're hoping to expedite the

[44:48] process. We this afternoon I believe we

[44:51] transmitted all the checklists that they

[44:53] had requested with additional uh

[44:54] materials.

[44:56] >> So we are soliciting for your

[44:58] cooperation, your support in making this

[45:00] possible. Of

[45:01] >> course I'll talk to Christina about it.

[45:02] Happy to do it.

[45:03] >> Thank you. Appreciate that. Councilman

[45:05] Cannibal. It's in the heart of your your

[45:06] district. I know you've worked hard with

[45:08] other commissioners and our manager to

[45:10] get us to the point where we are now. So

[45:13] if I could have a motion to adopt this

[45:15] resolution. Yes.

[45:16] >> I do have some questions. Uh if there's

[45:18] a motion you want to make it, I'll

[45:19] second it. But then I do have some

[45:20] questions.

[45:20] >> Moved by Cannibal, seconded by Avala.

[45:23] >> Thank you. I do have some questions on

[45:24] this. I would like for this to come back

[45:26] to us for final uh acceptance once we

[45:28] know that it's not mitigation land and

[45:30] that we can also make sure that it's

[45:32] deed restricted in perpetuity for a

[45:35] park. So that's something that I want to

[45:36] make sure that if we're receiving it and

[45:38] that we're going to have it that it's

[45:39] going to be a park 100%. So that's my

[45:43] condition on the second. Thank you.

[45:44] >> And typically that's built into the

[45:46] conveyance. It's It's

[45:47] >> not It's not in this.

[45:49] >> It's titled in the parks department now.

[45:50] >> Could be. I would hope so. Yes,

[45:52] >> I would. No. At the county.

[45:54] >> I would I would hope so. Yes,

[45:57] >> Mr. Mayor.

[45:57] >> Yes.

[45:58] >> I'm sorry. Just procedural very quickly.

[46:00] We didn't add this to the agenda at the

[46:02] beginning of the meeting. Can I have a

[46:03] motion to add the to the agenda

[46:06] >> and then take a vote for adoption?

[46:08] >> I'll move to add to the So, it's moved

[46:10] by Canal, second by Avala to add this

[46:12] item to the agenda.

[46:14] >> All in favor?

[46:15] >> Mr. Ma'am, before you approve the

[46:17] amended agenda, I want to delete tab 29

[46:21] car number 4973.

[46:24] Vice mayor's permission, we're

[46:26] withdrawing that item from the agenda.

[46:28] >> Oh, okay. All right. So, do we need two

[46:31] separate votes to add one and delete

[46:32] another?

[46:33] >> We can take them together as to accept

[46:35] the amended agenda. going to add the

[46:38] request for the conveyance to the agenda

[46:41] and and defer or delete for tonight tab

[46:45] 29 with respect to that's the uh

[46:47] certificate of use item

[46:49] >> is that

[46:50] >> no

[46:51] >> it's a fee waiver

[46:53] >> that's a fee waver

[46:54] >> oh that's right

[46:55] >> it was before the education committee

[46:57] came

[46:57] >> gotcha okay

[46:58] >> to be so moved

[46:59] >> very good so all in favor of that

[47:01] addition and the deletion I any opposed

[47:05] all right so Now,

[47:07] um, we're going to vote on the

[47:11] resolution requesting the conveyance for

[47:13] park purposes.

[47:14] >> Can we restate the motion?

[47:17] >> Right now, the motion as made was just

[47:19] to adopt the resolution. If you'd like

[47:20] to make a motion to amend to stipulate

[47:22] that it needs to be come back to you for

[47:25] review, then we can do that. Or we can

[47:27] you can amend the motion to provide that

[47:30] we'll accept it as long as it's deeded

[47:33] as um restrict it has includes a deed

[47:36] restriction for park for park purposes.

[47:39] So you can you can make a motion to

[47:41] amend

[47:42] >> and mitigation free

[47:44] >> and that it it's not wetland if that's

[47:46] >> well that would be part of our due

[47:47] diligence before we accepted it.

[47:49] >> So

[47:49] >> but the resolution isn't specific to

[47:51] that. So the motion has to be specific

[47:53] to that in my in my opinion. But

[47:55] >> okay.

[47:56] >> So if you want to make the what I'm

[47:57] hearing is we'll accept it.

[47:59] >> You accept those amendments council and

[48:00] cannibal.

[48:01] >> Yes.

[48:02] >> So contingent on it not being wetland

[48:04] property and that it is also comes with

[48:07] a deed restriction that is for park

[48:10] purposes.

[48:10] >> All right. So the maker of the motion

[48:13] has accepted that the request of the

[48:16] person who seconded the motion. No, he

[48:19] accepted it. We're good. All right. So,

[48:22] let's have a roll call vote on this

[48:24] resolution.

[48:24] >> Councilman Cannibal.

[48:26] >> Councilwoman Abula?

[48:27] >> Yes.

[48:28] >> Councilwoman Ksky?

[48:29] >> Yes.

[48:30] >> Councilman Fletcher?

[48:31] >> Yes.

[48:31] >> Councilman Raw?

[48:32] >> Yes.

[48:33] >> Vice Mayor Bailey? Yes.

[48:34] >> Mayor Losner?

[48:35] >> Yes.

[48:36] >> The motion carries.

[48:37] >> All right. Thank you.

[48:38] >> I will talk to the director first thing

[48:40] tomorrow.

[48:40] >> Thank you. It's always a pleasure.

[48:43] >> All right. So, let's get focused again.

[48:46] I think that takes us now to uh one hour

[48:49] in to tab uh to tab two.

[48:53] This is a a presentation or is there a

[48:56] resolution that goes to the

[48:57] presentation?

[49:11] » Mayor, if I may while we're taking a

[49:13] little break. While they're setting up a

[49:15] presentation,

[49:16] >> just for um city manager's office with

[49:19] regards to my end of the year VIP

[49:21] Christmas party that I held, I would

[49:23] like to expand on that and perhaps um

[49:26] work in some additional programming

[49:28] throughout the year that we can um on

[49:31] the basis of what we heard today and the

[49:33] toolkit and whatnot. Let's see if we can

[49:34] get that going sooner than later.

[49:37] >> Actually, I have some very very good

[49:40] suggestion for you. I mentioned at the

[49:42] beginning of the meeting that I have

[49:43] some good news. Uh let me let you take

[49:46] the thunder. Let me let brief you first

[49:48] then you can inform your colleagues.

[49:50] >> Thank you. I appreciate it because I'm

[49:51] also working with um my VIP group to try

[49:54] to have soccer programming and that's

[49:56] you know been a little challenging. So

[49:58] um more to come. Thank you.

[50:01] >> Thank you.

[50:01] >> Okay. Okay. Good afternoon mayor

[50:04] council. I will make this two and a half

[50:07] minutes if possible at the direction of

[50:10] the manager.

[50:11] >> Um the this item is a discussion item

[50:15] and the intent is to provide a brief update to council on uh two

[50:21] primary initiatives that we have um

[50:24] before us. Um, I will categorize it with

[50:29] the America 250 signage that we are uh

[50:32] looking to implement or install at the

[50:36] end of May and will have in place

[50:40] through the end of September. Um, and

[50:42] then we'll talk a little bit about the

[50:44] street banner program that will also be

[50:47] installed uh at the end of May, but will

[50:50] have a much longer uh shelf life um

[50:54] because there are different sequences

[50:56] and or rather seasons and sequences of

[50:59] the banner program.

[51:01] Uh last year, if you recall, council

[51:04] adopted a an America 250 logo in advance

[51:09] of the city um rolling out a year-long

[51:12] campaign for in celebration of the 250th

[51:17] um anniversary of the US. We have um

[51:21] worked with a vendor to dis to develop

[51:24] design concepts for several um banners

[51:29] to be installed at city hall, the

[51:32] exterior of city hall, the interior of

[51:34] the chambers and uh at the police

[51:36] station. And then we we have worked in

[51:39] conjunction with the CRA uh to develop

[51:42] conceptual designs for a street banner

[51:44] program to be implemented citywide.

[51:48] uh before you you have um a proof of

[51:52] concept that we are proposing

[51:56] two banners um to be uh installed again

[52:00] at the end of May in advance of uh

[52:03] Memorial Day on the east and the west

[52:05] entrance of city hall. We are also

[52:09] looking to do uh five banners that uh

[52:13] around the column of the exterior of the

[52:16] city hall building and um half flags uh

[52:22] towards the bottom portion of the what I call the coliseum feature outside

[52:28] of the city hall building.

[52:31] The uh half flags are also going to be

[52:34] installed at the rear of city hall and

[52:39] um right outside of the balcony area.

[52:43] Uh within chambers, uh we're taking the

[52:46] opportunity to enhance chambers a bit by

[52:50] introducing two banners um right behind

[52:54] the deis uh that you're sitting at this

[52:56] time uh with the newly adopted

[53:00] uh city tagline of the future lives

[53:03] here. Um the intent is that this banner

[53:07] can be changed over time um at council's

[53:11] uh requests um to celebrate many

[53:14] different things including November's um

[53:18] uh the national championship uh of

[53:20] coming back to uh Homestead. Right. So

[53:23] it is it is intended to be

[53:25] interchangeable. we would just need to

[53:28] replace the ribbon itself and install it

[53:30] with the hardware that would be uh made

[53:33] permanent.

[53:34] While we are doing this work, we're also

[53:37] proposing um utilize or taking the

[53:40] opportunity to do a little bit of a

[53:43] reconfiguration on the behind the the

[53:45] deis. Uh we're looking to relocate the

[53:49] in God we trust signage. We're looking

[53:51] to make it a little bit bigger as well.

[53:54] Um a a few months ago we adopted the

[53:58] circular logo as the official as the

[54:00] newly official logo of the city. So we

[54:04] are proposing to um install a circular

[54:08] logo in lie of the arch logo that is

[54:11] currently there and the current arch

[54:16] logo that is currently installed uh

[54:19] behind the deis.

[54:21] We are going to look to council to give

[54:23] us some recommendations on what you'd

[54:25] like to have installed in lie of the

[54:28] archway. Um there are some

[54:33] uh designs imperfection if we remove it.

[54:36] So we need to uh find a a method to

[54:40] replace that um replace that that

[54:43] archway uh that we do not see the

[54:46] blemishes that's behind uh the the

[54:48] panel. So that is something that we can

[54:50] workshop with council individually but

[54:53] that is something that we need to work

[54:54] on.

[54:56] Uh before you you'll see the pro

[54:59] proposed banners um installed on the

[55:01] exterior of the police uh building. This

[55:04] is the entrance and then we have two

[55:06] banners that faces uh Lzner Park and the

[55:10] Veterans Memorial.

[55:13] So that is the update on the America 250

[55:16] banner installation.

[55:18] Now we are going to shift uh into the

[55:22] street banner locations. Uh so or rather

[55:25] the street banner program. So the intent

[55:27] here is that we will have um street

[55:31] banners that are that is representative

[55:34] of

[55:36] the city what is happening in the city

[55:39] um the the entertainment offerings in

[55:41] the city um installed citywide. Um there

[55:45] are some that will be dis specific to

[55:48] downtown Homestead and then there are

[55:51] other banner option or concepts that

[55:53] will um live throughout or or rather be

[55:57] installed throughout the city and

[55:58] specifically the major corridors. Uh

[56:01] we're looking to install these banners

[56:03] on um

[56:06] the either decorative poles or uh the

[56:10] light poles that are owned by our HPS

[56:13] energy department.

[56:15] We have also um we've done a ride along.

[56:18] We've identified several corridors where

[56:22] the county owns the street lights and we

[56:24] have already reached out to the county

[56:26] to understand their requirements should

[56:29] we want to attach uh to their polls. Uh

[56:33] the poles that we're proposing for the

[56:35] street banners or rather the banners for

[56:37] the um polls are 48 by 30 and as you see

[56:44] before you there are different concepts

[56:48] that is being presented um what what we

[56:52] the style or the stylistic um approach

[56:56] is the kind of the oneword um

[57:01] uh verb right the action and then having

[57:04] some sort of a visual aid that that is

[57:08] um descriptive of what is happening in

[57:11] the in the in the city or in the area.

[57:14] Um as you'll see before you, you have

[57:17] the downtown Homestead um logo that is a subbrand of the Discover

[57:27] Homestead brand. So we wanted to keep

[57:28] our branding consistent. Um, so that is

[57:31] how you that is what you would see on

[57:33] all of the Downtown Homestead specific

[57:36] um banners.

[57:38] And then we also have uh several

[57:40] concepts um for you know again

[57:44] entertainment e uh eeries um exploring

[57:48] downtown. Um also again the the intent

[57:52] is to encourage um folks to visit uh or or dining options and um

[58:01] utilize the pedestrian opportunities

[58:03] that we are presenting. You also have um

[58:07] again

[58:09] uh different different shots of what visitors residents uh are able to

[58:15] um explore in the downtown area. We have

[58:18] some uh seminal theater shots. We've

[58:22] included, you know, our our standing

[58:25] holiday uh treatments, whether it's the

[58:28] race to the fourth. Uh we have been

[58:30] intentional in incorporating several um

[58:34] agricultural pictures to make sure that

[58:37] we we we ensure we uh remain or keep um

[58:43] the history of uh the city alive. We've

[58:47] also talked or incorporated several of

[58:49] the Everglades,

[58:51] um our the air base, the military

[58:54] branches. We've incorporated the

[58:57] speedway as well as the rodeo. Um and

[59:00] then of course we are also looking ahead

[59:04] at you know the newly improved um

[59:08] uh Chrome Avenue what the

[59:13] PH Sports Hub will look like. And really

[59:16] what I would like to uh point your

[59:19] attention to are these two options which

[59:22] is again the America 250 um banner and

[59:25] the future lives here banner. uh this

[59:28] would be the first as a part of the

[59:30] first deployment. Right? So these two

[59:33] banners would be uh installed in concert

[59:36] with the other banners that you saw

[59:38] earlier. Um we have intentionally

[59:42] switched the America 250 logo to the

[59:46] city um of Homestead logo that we are

[59:49] able to utilize these banners um in

[59:51] future years. Um, and I will from an

[59:56] investment perspective,

[59:58] uh, the improvements to city hall or the

[1:00:00] banners to city hall, the PD building,

[1:00:03] and the interior of chambers, there's a

[1:00:06] fiscal impact of $39,000.

[1:00:09] uh on the street banner program, the

[1:00:12] first push. Uh we have uh several

[1:00:14] funding sources, ARPA, the

[1:00:19] our our CMO communications budget as

[1:00:23] well as the CRA's uh budget for the

[1:00:26] banners for the downtown area. And with

[1:00:29] that, I think I went to three minutes,

[1:00:31] so I apologize, sir. Uh with that, I am

[1:00:34] happy to take any questions and or

[1:00:36] feedback at this time.

[1:00:38] So just to be clear before you want us

[1:00:40] to focus primarily tonight on the

[1:00:44] interior and exterior of city hall

[1:00:46] police station

[1:00:48] and

[1:00:49] >> street banners that are American

[1:00:51] >> the fourth of fourth of July

[1:00:53] >> fourth of July that is correct sir

[1:00:55] >> council counciloman Bailey

[1:00:58] >> I'll kick it off thank you um just a

[1:01:01] couple a couple um comments if you can

[1:01:04] go back to the

[1:01:06] 250 50 related banners. My only comment

[1:01:10] with that is just trying to visualize it

[1:01:13] while you're driving down the street or

[1:01:14] passing by that we might want to take

[1:01:17] more better use of the size and make the

[1:01:19] lettering and the logo larger.

[1:01:21] >> Okay. So, use maybe the similar font to

[1:01:24] the

[1:01:25] >> America. It could be a little smaller,

[1:01:27] but um take advantage and make it pop.

[1:01:31] As far as behind us, I think it looks

[1:01:33] very nice. I don't know what price tag

[1:01:37] removing it and fixing what's behind us,

[1:01:41] but I don't necessarily think we need to

[1:01:43] switch the logos behind us. I love the

[1:01:47] idea of of all these banners and flags,

[1:01:51] but as far as what's behind us, I think

[1:01:53] it looks nice now.

[1:01:54] >> Just throwing that out there.

[1:01:55] >> It does look nice, but personally, I've

[1:01:58] always thought it was too low. the

[1:02:00] former assistant city manager was left

[1:02:02] unsupervised and this was mounted at the

[1:02:05] wrong height. I whoever sits in this

[1:02:07] seat blocks that and we have all the

[1:02:11] dead space

[1:02:12] >> above it. That was the thinking that

[1:02:14] it's really too low and not to scale for

[1:02:18] the wall.

[1:02:19] >> If that's the case,

[1:02:19] >> that that was the thinking.

[1:02:22] >> If that's the case, then great. Um and

[1:02:25] the only thing then which we're not

[1:02:26] talking about yet but the the smaller

[1:02:28] the future lives here banners for me I

[1:02:31] think we have enough to talk about that

[1:02:33] is already happening you know in the

[1:02:35] visioning visioning sessions I think

[1:02:37] that's great but to advertise something

[1:02:39] that's not quite there yet

[1:02:41] >> getting ahead of ourselves and like I

[1:02:44] said I think we have enough that we've

[1:02:46] already done okay

[1:02:47] >> advertise that's all I have thank you

[1:02:51] >> are you talking about these that have

[1:02:53] the tagline line or this stuff. Okay.

[1:02:55] >> Gotcha. I agree.

[1:02:56] >> Not now.

[1:02:57] >> Agreed.

[1:02:58] >> Okay.

[1:03:02] » All right,

[1:03:03] >> Mr. Mayor.

[1:03:05] >> Council Fletcher and then Councilwoman.

[1:03:07] And not to belabor the subject, I think

[1:03:09] all these are great. Some are a little

[1:03:11] too busy, but maybe we can tone them

[1:03:13] down a little bit and make them pop like

[1:03:15] you said. Um, but I'd like to bring up

[1:03:18] again, I've been asking for this for

[1:03:19] quite some time on our city letterheads,

[1:03:22] you know, where we have our logo and

[1:03:23] then down the side most of the time we

[1:03:25] have the names of everyone. Uh, I'd like

[1:03:27] to do the the co-branding

[1:03:31] with the championship race. Uh, soon

[1:03:33] we're going to be adding, you know,

[1:03:35] Miami FC to Homestead. Uh, and hopefully

[1:03:38] a championship there as well. So, uh, we

[1:03:41] talked about this quite some time ago,

[1:03:42] but we've never really implemented it

[1:03:44] yet. And I think we need to to really

[1:03:47] market our facility that's leased by

[1:03:49] NASCAR, but we should be helping that

[1:03:52] when we're sending out our normal mail.

[1:03:55] >> Thank you.

[1:03:55] >> Well, even on email between now and the

[1:03:57] race,

[1:03:57] >> correct?

[1:03:58] >> And do we have their final logo that

[1:04:00] doesn't use the word homestead

[1:04:03] >> uh for SPH?

[1:04:04] >> No.

[1:04:04] No. No.

[1:04:05] >> For the track for this championship

[1:04:06] race?

[1:04:07] >> We do.

[1:04:07] >> Yeah, we do. And we uh we uh well we are

[1:04:12] working with the track to do some

[1:04:15] elements of uh joint

[1:04:19] banners uh as a they are they're working

[1:04:22] with us jointly on the banner program as

[1:04:24] well as the water tower. Um they have

[1:04:28] shared with us a design concept. So

[1:04:30] mayor and council will the

[1:04:31] administration is going to come back

[1:04:32] with all those concepts for your review

[1:04:35] and approval before we adopt anything. I

[1:04:38] don't recommend we put stuff on our

[1:04:40] letterhead with that council's

[1:04:41] concurrence first.

[1:04:43] >> One final

[1:04:45] >> uh I know we reached out to uh

[1:04:49] you said the county owned street lights.

[1:04:52] >> Yes sir. Can we reach out to Florida

[1:04:54] Power and Light because the main

[1:04:55] thoroughfare especially on the in the

[1:04:57] southeast district is Palm Drive and I

[1:05:00] know those are FPL street lights but I

[1:05:02] know there's liability that comes with

[1:05:04] that as well. So

[1:05:05] >> So last week I reached out to the

[1:05:07] governmental affairs manager for FPL

[1:05:10] because of that as well as some other

[1:05:12] additional unrelated issues. He's

[1:05:15] currently out of the country until the

[1:05:16] 27th and he promised me that as soon as

[1:05:19] he comes back he's coming to Homestead

[1:05:20] to finalize on all pending issues.

[1:05:25] >> Can you go back to the one with the

[1:05:26] tomatoes and the avocados?

[1:05:29] >> Okay. Yeah, you passed it. Okay. So,

[1:05:33] you know, to not, and again, not to

[1:05:35] belver the point, but to not have too

[1:05:38] many of the Happy Birthday America

[1:05:40] banners downtown.

[1:05:43] Why not intersperse

[1:05:45] one of the tomatoes and one of the and I

[1:05:47] like the first avocado and the first

[1:05:49] tomato and see that would be my

[1:05:52] preference to alternate the happy

[1:05:54] birthday America

[1:05:56] >> future lives here

[1:05:57] >> with with produce

[1:05:59] future lives here you know and they have

[1:06:02] three different kinds of banners so it's

[1:06:04] not so monolithic

[1:06:07] >> this in downtown Cro

[1:06:10] and and there are some that we hike that

[1:06:13] we can go forward with later. But, you

[1:06:16] know, as we're going back into and

[1:06:18] really trying to showcase our

[1:06:19] agricultural roots, you know, for the

[1:06:22] first trunch of banners, if we could if

[1:06:25] we could do that. And I think

[1:06:28] Councilwoman has some comments.

[1:06:30] >> Thank you. Uh, when is when do we think

[1:06:32] we're printing the banners?

[1:06:34] >> Yesterday.

[1:06:36] >> To be installed by Memorial Day weekend.

[1:06:42] the location and all that. We're not

[1:06:43] going to have a second hack.

[1:06:44] >> Say that again.

[1:06:45] >> For the locations on the map and all

[1:06:47] that, we won't have another hack at

[1:06:48] this, right?

[1:06:49] >> Well, certainly we will because I what I

[1:06:51] imagine to what I imagine will happen is

[1:06:54] for May, we may be certainly able to

[1:06:57] install on our pole street lights,

[1:07:00] right? Or or decorative lights.

[1:07:02] >> And then maybe the county will will give

[1:07:05] us approval later thereafter. So there

[1:07:09] is I I anticipate there being a rolling

[1:07:12] um implementation that's possible. It

[1:07:14] depends on when the county or FPL um

[1:07:18] gives us a a determination.

[1:07:20] >> So for example like Speedway Boulevard

[1:07:24] for race weekend leading up to the race

[1:07:27] and some of those major east west

[1:07:29] corridors where folks would come in from

[1:07:32] the west of the track to come in there.

[1:07:35] We also touched on some of the Fourth of

[1:07:38] July banners in that corridor when folks

[1:07:41] are coming out there for our

[1:07:42] programming.

[1:07:44] >> Okay. So, a few a few things. The logo

[1:07:47] behind the chair for the same reason why

[1:07:50] we you know we want to raise the logo. I

[1:07:53] don't think we should replace it with

[1:07:54] another tombstone style sign. Perhaps

[1:07:57] just something simple to hide the defect

[1:08:00] you're referring to. But if the goal is

[1:08:02] to be able to see the full logo during

[1:08:05] live play of the meetings, I can

[1:08:08] understand why you want to do that. I

[1:08:09] prefer not to spend that kind of money

[1:08:11] if we don't have to. But

[1:08:14] I I I agree with the

[1:08:16] >> get it right the second time.

[1:08:17] >> Okay. The the banners on in the inside,

[1:08:20] I don't know if that's necessary. I

[1:08:22] think that it it's another distraction

[1:08:25] in the room. It's more work.

[1:08:28] But I do I do like the the alternating

[1:08:32] of the signs. Um the 250 signage per se.

[1:08:36] It did it wasn't a wow factor for me.

[1:08:38] I'm not sure if there were other

[1:08:39] renderings to consider, but if it's if

[1:08:43] it this is what we're going to work with

[1:08:44] in terms of in terms of the the basic

[1:08:46] style

[1:08:49] making the verbiage like

[1:08:50] >> mean the ones for outside,

[1:08:51] >> right?

[1:08:53] Um,

[1:08:55] let's see what it looks like. Thank you.

[1:08:59] >> Well, what you don't really pick up here

[1:09:01] is kind of the watermark behind it and

[1:09:03] the fireworks.

[1:09:05] It may not be really visible here. I

[1:09:08] think maybe on a printout.

[1:09:09] >> Yeah. I mean, it's temporary. It's not

[1:09:11] permanent. It's just the this year and

[1:09:13] then it's off. Well, we're going to take

[1:09:15] the 250 logo off of these and put our

[1:09:18] round logo on them so that they can be

[1:09:22] used year after year.

[1:09:23] >> So then the background, the blue and all

[1:09:25] that will stay the same

[1:09:26] >> because nobody's proposing that we spend

[1:09:28] this money for these large banners to

[1:09:30] use one time.

[1:09:32] >> Got it. So

[1:09:33] >> we put the brown logo there. We can use

[1:09:35] them for several years.

[1:09:36] >> Okay. So

[1:09:37] >> and perhaps in different locations.

[1:09:41] >> Got it. So they'll have fireworks on it

[1:09:43] all year long.

[1:09:44] >> Not all year long.

[1:09:45] >> No, no, no. This is just for that period

[1:09:48] this year, Memorial Day to Labor Day for

[1:09:50] the

[1:09:50] >> So you're saying you'll reuse the

[1:09:52] banner, but put a new print on the

[1:09:53] banner

[1:09:54] >> as you phase out the seasons. How are

[1:09:56] you going to reuse?

[1:09:56] >> You're going to take these banners down,

[1:09:58] store them, and put them back up next

[1:10:00] year.

[1:10:00] >> I understand what you're saying, right?

[1:10:02] But they're not going to be a

[1:10:02] permanently affixed all year round is

[1:10:04] what I'm saying. No.

[1:10:05] >> Okay. With regards to the branding, I do

[1:10:08] believe that we have an opportunity like

[1:10:09] Councilman Fletcher said with

[1:10:12] highlighting home of the championship

[1:10:14] race, right? So, we can brand with that

[1:10:17] for this year on all of our templates.

[1:10:19] And then next year, what are we home of?

[1:10:21] the

[1:10:22] >> I don't know FC game, big game,

[1:10:25] whatever. And then the year after that

[1:10:27] or the season

[1:10:29] >> sunflower

[1:10:30] >> home of the sunflower festival coming

[1:10:32] 2027, you know,

[1:10:33] >> it's a stinking cover crop. they weren't

[1:10:35] selling them. It was a cover.

[1:10:36] >> It's definitely something that it just

[1:10:38] it throws messaging. It throws a high,

[1:10:40] you know, highlights on what to look

[1:10:41] forward to and it's a buzz for whoever's

[1:10:44] receiving it and thank you very much.

[1:10:47] >> So, so great idea on that and I I do

[1:10:50] support that. Uh, in general, the the

[1:10:53] signage and the locations, you know,

[1:10:55] we'll just keep working on it.

[1:10:59] » All right. Thank you very much.

[1:11:01] >> All right. Thank you all. Is does that

[1:11:03] include comments from council?

[1:11:04] Councilman Roth, you're good.

[1:11:06] >> Okay.

[1:11:07] >> All right. So, do you have what you need

[1:11:10] from us on this item at this point?

[1:11:12] >> We do. Thank you very much.

[1:11:14] >> I guess you don't want to jump into

[1:11:15] picking out floor coloring while we're

[1:11:17] decorating. No,

[1:11:18] >> at the direction of the manager.

[1:11:19] >> Let's Let's don't

[1:11:22] That's not the next item. I was kidding.

[1:11:25] As long as we're picking out curtains,

[1:11:26] let's pick out carpet.

[1:11:29] We'll we'll we'll take a break on that.

[1:11:31] All right. Our next item is the approval

[1:11:33] of the consent agenda which is tabs 3A

[1:11:37] through

[1:11:40] tab 11.

[1:11:43] >> It's been moved. Do we have a

[1:11:44] >> second with a comment, please? Thank

[1:11:45] you.

[1:11:45] >> A second with a comment. Go ahead.

[1:11:47] Comment.

[1:11:48] >> Thank you. I support the consent agenda.

[1:11:50] One point I want to make with regards to

[1:11:53] the PAL gym, not necessarily the

[1:11:56] contract that we're approving under the

[1:11:57] item for the PAL. um as I I do support

[1:12:01] the extra programming and the the the formatting on how the programs will

[1:12:05] be provided to the PAL kids and

[1:12:07] everything in general, but it um I did

[1:12:09] have a briefing with our city manager,

[1:12:12] the police chief, and um in regards to

[1:12:15] the PAL program in general, and that's

[1:12:18] something that I would like for the rest

[1:12:19] of council to be aware of and to review

[1:12:22] hopefully soon. I did receive a memo

[1:12:24] with regards to um their internal

[1:12:27] auditing of the program and um I want to

[1:12:30] continue to have the city and the staff

[1:12:32] to support the PAL program as is under

[1:12:35] the Homestead Police Department's

[1:12:36] perview and um I just want to to to give

[1:12:41] you all the opportunity to review that

[1:12:42] information as soon as possible and

[1:12:44] perhaps let's call a sunshine meeting to

[1:12:46] discuss further

[1:12:47] and make sure that if that is the will

[1:12:50] of the council that the staff knows that

[1:12:52] and is able to um um encourage the the

[1:12:57] programming the the the structure of the

[1:13:00] program as well as and the entity uh to

[1:13:03] be maintained as such. And I did request

[1:13:06] for budgeting u information precoid and

[1:13:10] I did not receive that yet. I've

[1:13:13] requested it a couple times. So I wanted

[1:13:15] to know if that has been pulled from

[1:13:19] record. I I can't imagine that it's

[1:13:21] difficult for us to find what the budget

[1:13:23] was for a program that we have been

[1:13:25] funding for 2019.

[1:13:28] It's not like it's buried in the

[1:13:29] basement of the old city hall.

[1:13:31] >> Yeah, Councilman, I think the finance

[1:13:32] director pulled up one of the years and

[1:13:34] is working with PD to get additional

[1:13:37] information for you.

[1:13:38] >> Great. Thank you. All right. I'll rest

[1:13:40] there, but that is my second.

[1:13:41] >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Any further

[1:13:44] comments on the approval of the consent

[1:13:45] agenda? All right. All in favor?

[1:13:48] >> I. Any oppose?

[1:13:50] All right, Mr. White, have at it.

[1:13:57] » Yes. Quai judicial items. Please be

[1:13:59] advised the following items on the

[1:14:01] agenda are quai judicial in nature. If

[1:14:02] you wish to comment upon any of these

[1:14:04] items, please indicate the item number

[1:14:05] you would like to address. When the

[1:14:07] announcement regarding the quai judicial

[1:14:08] item is made, an opportunity for persons

[1:14:11] to speak on each item will be made

[1:14:13] available after the applicant and staff

[1:14:15] have made their presentations on each

[1:14:16] item. swearing in. All testimony,

[1:14:19] including public testimony and evidence,

[1:14:20] will be made under oath or affirmation.

[1:14:22] Additionally, each person who gives

[1:14:24] testimony may may be subject to

[1:14:25] cross-examination.

[1:14:27] If you do not wish to either be

[1:14:28] cross-examined or sworn, your testimony

[1:14:31] will be given its due. The general

[1:14:33] public will not be permitted to

[1:14:34] cross-examine witnesses, but the public

[1:14:36] may request the council to ask questions

[1:14:38] of staff or witnesses on their behalf.

[1:14:40] The full agenda packet on each item is

[1:14:42] hereby entered into the record. Persons

[1:14:44] representing organizations must present

[1:14:46] evidence of their authority to speak for

[1:14:48] the organization.

[1:14:51] Further details of the quai judicial

[1:14:52] procedures may be obtained from the

[1:14:54] clerk and according to code section

[1:14:55] 2-590. Any lobbyists must register

[1:14:58] before addressing the council on any of

[1:15:00] the following items. At this time,

[1:15:02] council members must disclose any

[1:15:03] exparte communications concerning any

[1:15:06] items on the agenda. And I would just

[1:15:08] note that tab 12 and 13 are not quasi

[1:15:10] judicial items. They're legislative

[1:15:12] matters. So we can take those up when we

[1:15:14] get to the legislative matter section.

[1:15:17] >> Okay.

[1:15:17] >> So quazi judicial items for

[1:15:20] consideration this evening would be

[1:15:22] second reading of tab 15, tab 16, tab

[1:15:26] 17, tab 18 and tab 19.

[1:15:38] » Well, no 18, not 19.

[1:15:42] 15 through 18.

[1:15:43] >> I heard you say 19. It's 18,

[1:15:50] » right? Right. But not part of the the

[1:15:52] same project.

[1:15:54] >> So, do we need to go to the

[1:15:56] >> So,

[1:15:58] 19 is the separate item. Yeah. Right.

[1:16:01] >> So, do we need to go first to the second

[1:16:04] reading of the reszoning

[1:16:07] for this package?

[1:16:09] >> That would be correct. But first

[1:16:11] >> disclosures

[1:16:13] >> 15 through 18 project the same.

[1:16:16] >> All right. So then at this time anyone

[1:16:18] in the audience wishing to speak this

[1:16:20] evening please stand raise your right

[1:16:22] hand to be sworn in by the clerk.

[1:16:26] >> You swear by do you hereby swear affirm

[1:16:28] to tell the truth and nothing but the

[1:16:30] truth to help me God.

[1:16:32] You may be seated.

[1:16:36] >> So

[1:16:38] Mr. Mr. Mayor, we can move to the second

[1:16:39] reading uh the resoning tab 15. Um I can

[1:16:43] introduce that as well as tab 16, 17,

[1:16:47] and 18.

[1:16:48] >> Right. Let's let's introduce the entire

[1:16:51] package and then we'll vote in the order

[1:16:52] that's necessary.

[1:16:53] >> Right.

[1:16:54] >> Individually.

[1:16:56] So tab 15, this is a second reading of

[1:16:58] an ordinance to the city of Homestead,

[1:16:59] Florida approving the reszoning as

[1:17:01] requested by Vama LLC and Panko LLC of

[1:17:03] an approximately 62.35 acre parcel of

[1:17:05] land from agricultural AU zoning

[1:17:08] district to one family 1/2 acre AU

[1:17:10] zoning district for property generally

[1:17:12] located south of southwest 396 street

[1:17:16] north of 302nd Street and west of

[1:17:18] Southwest 192nd Avenue as legally

[1:17:21] described in exhibit A and providing for conflict severability and

[1:17:24] providing for an effective date. Tab 16,

[1:17:28] car number 4974

[1:17:30] is a res resolution of the city of

[1:17:32] Homestead, Florida, granting site plan

[1:17:34] approval as requested by Bama and Penco

[1:17:36] LLC for the development of 119 single

[1:17:39] family dwelling units within a new

[1:17:42] residential subdivision on an

[1:17:43] approximately 62.35 acre parcel of land.

[1:17:47] Tab 17 is car number 4975.

[1:17:51] It is a resolution of the city of

[1:17:53] Homestead, Florida granting tenants of

[1:17:54] plat approval as requested by Bama and

[1:17:57] Pinko LLC for the development of a 115

[1:18:02] single family unit new residential

[1:18:04] subdivision. And lastly, tab 18, car

[1:18:08] number 4976

[1:18:10] is a resolution of the city of Homestead

[1:18:12] Florida granting a variance as requested

[1:18:14] by Obama and Penco LLC from the city

[1:18:17] code of ordinances section 30-981

[1:18:20] regulations to permit a minimum building

[1:18:23] site or lot area of 15,780

[1:18:27] ft where a minimum 1/2 acre 21,780

[1:18:32] ft building site or lot is required for

[1:18:35] each single family dwelling unit. This

[1:18:37] is for the development of 119 single

[1:18:39] family dwelling homes within a new

[1:18:40] residential subdivision.

[1:18:44] » Thank you.

[1:18:46] Any issues with waving the staff report

[1:18:50] and we can come back to staff if

[1:18:51] necessary after the applicant's

[1:18:53] presentation that okay Mr.

[1:18:56] >> Arsen

[1:19:07] Is this mic on?

[1:19:13] » It's on.

[1:19:15] >> Yeah. Just needs to be brought up. Can

[1:19:16] you hear me?

[1:19:17] >> We can hear you.

[1:19:21] >> Thank you, sir.

[1:19:26] » Good evening. Hugo or 71 Burkel Avenue.

[1:19:30] um joined today by my partner Alex Aras

[1:19:33] as well as representatives from LAR

[1:19:35] homes. Um pleasure to be before you. I

[1:19:38] thank you all for your time. I had an

[1:19:40] opportunity to sit with all of you um

[1:19:43] prior to first reading and again uh

[1:19:45] before this evening for second reading.

[1:19:47] Um so I know you're you're familiar with

[1:19:49] the site and the property. I want to

[1:19:51] thank staff for their work with us um in getting this project to to the finish

[1:19:55] line uh we hope uh this evening. and um

[1:20:00] see that we've already uh we're on the

[1:20:02] subject site. So again, um you know,

[1:20:04] just to orient us a little bit, uh the

[1:20:05] eastern portion of our properties, 192nd

[1:20:08] Avenue, uh 296th Street, Avocado is on

[1:20:11] the north side. Um and um basically a

[1:20:16] budding to the north, um the under

[1:20:19] construction Aspen Estates project that

[1:20:21] you see on the on the screen there, uh

[1:20:24] under development and under construction

[1:20:25] and approved by this council. And I I

[1:20:28] will come back to that approval um in a

[1:20:30] few slides. Um because the the really

[1:20:33] the the theme of the application when

[1:20:36] first presented to me to submit to the

[1:20:39] city for approval and in my discussions

[1:20:41] with I think all of you throughout time

[1:20:43] was that um having gone through that

[1:20:46] approval process recently the city um

[1:20:48] had expressed you know support for what

[1:20:51] you now see there under development um

[1:20:54] an application that contained the exact

[1:20:56] same four requests before you this

[1:20:58] evening the site plan the tlat the

[1:21:00] resoning

[1:21:01] and the same variance for lot sizes. So,

[1:21:04] um when when LAR came to me, I said,

[1:21:07] "Whatever we do, um let's make sure we

[1:21:09] can match um what this city and council

[1:21:13] have previously approved in the recent

[1:21:15] past." Um that approval happened, uh I

[1:21:17] think not quite 3 years ago, so in the

[1:21:19] recent past. And so, uh what we have

[1:21:21] this evening is a project that, um is

[1:21:23] just a hair under the density that Aspen

[1:21:26] states had approved. and we used that

[1:21:28] kind of as a as a bit of a guiding

[1:21:30] principle. Um we felt that it was

[1:21:32] appropriate to try and uh take a nod to

[1:21:35] what this council had already previously

[1:21:37] approved. Um it also factually and we'll

[1:21:40] see it meant that there were places

[1:21:42] where that project and the roads that

[1:21:44] exist because of that project we're

[1:21:46] going to come into our project. So

[1:21:47] really it it is a continuation of a of a

[1:21:50] theme even though it is two different

[1:21:51] developers but the state homes in in

[1:21:54] this corner of the city which um does

[1:21:57] above your city boundary and um I'll

[1:21:59] show you in a minute that in fact a

[1:22:01] portion of this project once developed

[1:22:03] the one before you this evening a

[1:22:05] portion of it actually is outside of the

[1:22:07] city limits it's in the county that's

[1:22:09] already been through approvals for um

[1:22:11] estates sized homes and so we have

[1:22:13] before you the 62.35 gross acres that

[1:22:16] you have um within your city boundaries.

[1:22:19] Um existing land use designation, state

[1:22:21] density. That is important. I noted it

[1:22:23] obviously first reading talked about um

[1:22:26] the uh the the resoning and and so I

[1:22:30] made the point then and I'll make it

[1:22:31] again now. Um we are not seeking an

[1:22:33] increase in density above that which

[1:22:35] your master plan already contemplates

[1:22:37] for this site. Your master plan has for

[1:22:40] quite some time intended for this site

[1:22:42] to be developed with up to two and a

[1:22:44] half 2.5 dwelling units per acre. And so

[1:22:47] we're below that. We're at 1.98. But

[1:22:50] we're not asking for any additional

[1:22:51] density beyond what your master plan.

[1:22:53] That's important to keep in mind because

[1:22:55] that is what your governing planning

[1:22:57] document um envisions and has envisioned

[1:22:59] for um since the mid200s as far back as

[1:23:03] that could go showing that that property

[1:23:05] for the better part of 20 years uh had

[1:23:08] and there was an expectation that it

[1:23:10] would be developed with estate homes.

[1:23:12] And so, um, it's important to note that

[1:23:14] you get many land use changes, not maybe

[1:23:16] not many, but you do get the you get

[1:23:18] some land use changes sometimes where

[1:23:19] you can do this much on a property, but

[1:23:22] applicants will come in and say, I want

[1:23:24] to do more than what is allowed under

[1:23:25] your master plan. This is not one of

[1:23:27] those cases. I think that's an important

[1:23:28] point uh, worth noting uh, because this

[1:23:31] is already something that's contemplated

[1:23:33] by your master plan. existing zoning

[1:23:35] classification agriculture. I mean, by

[1:23:37] and large, most parcels in Miami Date

[1:23:38] County, both within within Homestead and uninccorporated and and in other

[1:23:43] municipalities, until they are

[1:23:45] developed, they carry with them one of

[1:23:47] two zoning categories, GU um or AU. Many

[1:23:51] carry AU because many were historically

[1:23:53] utilized for agriculture. That doesn't

[1:23:56] mean, however, that the master plan

[1:23:57] doesn't govern the intended use. And

[1:23:59] again, that's the estate density. So

[1:24:02] while the existing zoning is

[1:24:03] agriculture, the master plan has

[1:24:05] contemplated, as I said, for over two

[1:24:07] decades, that this be developed with a

[1:24:09] residential project for a long time. It

[1:24:12] was farmed, much like all of South Bay

[1:24:14] and a lot of our county in general, and

[1:24:17] now we would seek the resoning um to

[1:24:20] allow uh for us to um develop a project

[1:24:24] consistent with your master plan. And

[1:24:25] this is the uh the the graphic. Um it

[1:24:29] struck me when I looked at this graphic

[1:24:30] and just just to point out that the

[1:24:33] community the the much more longer

[1:24:35] established community to the east um on

[1:24:38] the other side of 192nd Avenue and

[1:24:40] there's there's a few different you know

[1:24:42] that's been there for a long long time

[1:24:44] actually has low density um land use

[1:24:47] designation. So, what that means is that

[1:24:49] um it it that area could have up to six

[1:24:53] holding units per acre and and I know

[1:24:54] it's fully developed and it's not

[1:24:56] envisioned, but just as a as a nod um

[1:24:59] while there are, you know, larger estate

[1:25:01] homes there today, there's nothing that

[1:25:04] the master plan um that precludes um at

[1:25:07] some point down the road from people

[1:25:09] perhaps assembling some of that and

[1:25:11] seeking an approval in the future for greater density. That's not possible

[1:25:14] for us. But it was telling to me that

[1:25:17] even an area that has the the larger

[1:25:19] estate home lots, um the city still has

[1:25:22] a more intense land use category. We

[1:25:24] don't have that. We are in the estate

[1:25:26] density uh in its entirety and can't ask

[1:25:29] for that. So again before you this

[1:25:31] evening is the second reading of uh our

[1:25:35] request to resone the property to A2

[1:25:37] which is your 1/2 acre estates site plan

[1:25:40] approval um which obviously all of your

[1:25:42] projects require tentative flat approval

[1:25:45] which goes with your site plan approval.

[1:25:46] I'm skipping over but I'm I'm leaving um

[1:25:49] it for to to note that obviously a lot

[1:25:52] of the discussions that I had with all

[1:25:54] of you um regarded the variance and

[1:25:56] again our um guiding light in asking for

[1:26:00] the variance was that it was um

[1:26:02] incredibly consistent almost down to you

[1:26:05] know within 0.02 dwelling units per acre

[1:26:08] um with the community that had been

[1:26:10] approved to the south Aspen Estates and

[1:26:12] I thought that that was telling and

[1:26:14] important. So, the very same variance

[1:26:15] request that this council approved um

[1:26:18] about three years ago, give or take. Um

[1:26:20] I will note there's no CDD request

[1:26:22] before you this evening. I know a

[1:26:24] question came up earlier about um

[1:26:25] perhaps placing some restrictions on on

[1:26:27] a CDD and I can get into that a little

[1:26:29] later, but we will be filing and

[1:26:31] processing for consideration by this

[1:26:33] council a CDD, the creation of a C or

[1:26:36] the recommendation by the city for the

[1:26:38] county commission to create the CDD. I

[1:26:41] have confirmed council woman because I

[1:26:43] don't want to forget later that a CDD

[1:26:44] petition can be made um without where it

[1:26:49] um prevents or prohibits the expansion

[1:26:52] of that CDD um at a later date. So I

[1:26:55] will again we are filing that

[1:26:57] application. We will work that through.

[1:26:58] I I can't make a commitment for an

[1:27:00] application not before you this evening,

[1:27:01] but to the extent that there might be um

[1:27:05] concerns um when that CDD application

[1:27:08] will I mean I actually already texted

[1:27:10] with CDD council. She's assured me that commitment can be made. We can file

[1:27:14] it that way and when it comes before you

[1:27:16] obviously you'll be able to evaluate

[1:27:17] that. It's not before you today. What is

[1:27:19] also though telling is that there will

[1:27:21] be no HOA. I think when we first started

[1:27:22] visiting with some of you prior to first

[1:27:24] reading, there was a discussion. Many of

[1:27:27] LAR's communities had both an HOA and a

[1:27:29] CDD. They they piggyback their

[1:27:31] responsibilities. They they serve

[1:27:32] different functions. Um given that there

[1:27:35] were um this community doesn't have a

[1:27:37] centralized amenity like a clubhouse or

[1:27:40] something that required um other um

[1:27:45] management. um they the LAR is able to

[1:27:49] remove any HOA from here. Obviously,

[1:27:52] that represents a savings for these

[1:27:53] folks. They'll have a CD and we'll have

[1:27:55] the numbers and the price and the amount

[1:27:57] when we come before you at a later date,

[1:27:59] but there will be no HOA. Many of the

[1:28:02] communities do have both. And so, I

[1:28:04] think that, you know, hopefully that

[1:28:05] will be um you know, positively weighed.

[1:28:07] Um this is a different kind of

[1:28:09] community. It's not a gated community.

[1:28:10] It's not a amenitydriven community. is a

[1:28:12] community where folks are going to have

[1:28:13] larger homes and larger lots and um you

[1:28:16] know can can kind of do what they want

[1:28:18] within their their project. Um again and

[1:28:20] I've talked to this um our property in

[1:28:23] yellow 1.98

[1:28:25] units per acre as the states 2.01. So I

[1:28:28] mean again we we um right there and very slightly below. Um so I think that

[1:28:35] it's um telling that that we try to

[1:28:37] match that and try to create something.

[1:28:39] Um, and I will and I'll show you in the

[1:28:41] site plan that again the the the road

[1:28:43] network does connect through. So even

[1:28:45] though these two communities are going

[1:28:46] to are being developed at a different

[1:28:47] time and you know the one to the south

[1:28:49] obviously is under development already

[1:28:51] um folks will have access through for any kind of uh mobility purposes. Um

[1:28:57] and there you have some of the

[1:28:58] information about the surrounding

[1:28:59] properties and I've been touching up on

[1:29:00] all of this um but basically um we are

[1:29:03] consistent with everything around us. we

[1:29:04] are a state density and around this we

[1:29:06] either have estate density or as I noted

[1:29:08] on the east low density we have the same

[1:29:10] zoning category in the county property

[1:29:13] which is a part of this project but in

[1:29:14] the county they have a category called

[1:29:16] EUM it's a state density with EUM um and

[1:29:19] so we are compatible and again there's

[1:29:21] no small single family lots there's no

[1:29:24] town houses here there's none of that so

[1:29:25] it is um compatible in that sense um

[1:29:28] obviously in showing this we we've

[1:29:30] talked a little bit about but here was

[1:29:32] um you know some of the the the

[1:29:34] highlights of that Aspen estate's

[1:29:36] approval, the density, the lot variance

[1:29:38] that it was approved, the tentative plat

[1:29:40] um and the redesation again almost

[1:29:42] mirroring many of the but all of the

[1:29:44] requests um almost down to to the last

[1:29:48] comma or or detail and that um

[1:29:50] compatibility goes through also with the

[1:29:52] development pattern and the road network

[1:29:54] and everything that that is contained. I

[1:29:57] will note because I've been asked before

[1:30:00] um maybe this is a better slide. we we

[1:30:02] don't control. Um, so there's a little

[1:30:05] notch up at the top. You see the little

[1:30:07] rectangle up there that that is owned by

[1:30:09] a different owner. It's my understanding

[1:30:11] that they're into the city or will be

[1:30:13] into the city for a similar type of

[1:30:15] estate home development. Um, at one

[1:30:17] point we had a conversation with them

[1:30:19] that they, you know, for their own

[1:30:21] reasons and they they would not have to,

[1:30:23] of course, didn't didn't see a need to

[1:30:25] join our project. So um, but the the but

[1:30:28] the city is aware that that notch there

[1:30:31] while out of the confines of this

[1:30:33] project will also be developed with

[1:30:35] estate homes. I just mentioned that so

[1:30:37] that um you all can can appreciate that

[1:30:40] it will be the same continuity of of of

[1:30:42] pattern. Um so here's uh the site plan.

[1:30:46] Um the yellow is the county parcel

[1:30:49] um that will be part of this development

[1:30:51] and this community once finished. You

[1:30:53] know, letting the folks um it'll be

[1:30:55] curious, right? So people living sort of

[1:30:58] behind each other or half a block away

[1:30:59] are going to be in the county and not in

[1:31:00] the city. Um but that's where the city

[1:31:03] boundary is. So that parcel is already

[1:31:05] approved in yellow, but as you can see,

[1:31:07] it ties in on the south and on the north

[1:31:08] and in the middle point. And then to the

[1:31:10] south, you see those connection points

[1:31:12] into Aspen. Um, particularly in that

[1:31:15] block in the bottom. And and I will talk

[1:31:16] a little bit about that block because

[1:31:18] that block is the block that contains

[1:31:20] some of those smaller lot sizes. And in

[1:31:23] large part, it's because of the

[1:31:24] configuration of the roads to the south.

[1:31:26] When you look at those two roads to the

[1:31:27] south, you break up that square um and at a at a fixed point, right? and

[1:31:32] you've got to connect exactly with the

[1:31:34] roads that exist to the south, which

[1:31:36] meant that we in in a couple of those

[1:31:38] blocks don't have quite the depth of

[1:31:40] lots. I've gone back to the drawing

[1:31:42] board and I have a couple of thoughts

[1:31:44] and suggestions um for what we can do to

[1:31:47] enable and make sure that the that the

[1:31:50] future residents of those lots even if

[1:31:52] their lots are um the the the two blocks

[1:31:55] are five feet less in depth. So

[1:31:58] obviously that makes a little bit of a

[1:32:00] difference with a backyard with the

[1:32:01] ability to have a pool exactly where you

[1:32:03] want it. And we have some some thought

[1:32:06] given and I'll wait if there's some

[1:32:07] questions as to how we might be able to

[1:32:09] ensure that even those lots even though

[1:32:11] they're a little smaller still can enjoy

[1:32:13] a fully functional backyard. Um and and

[1:32:16] I we have some thoughts for those that I happy to share with all of you.

[1:32:20] We'll get to it. um some of the site

[1:32:22] plan uh uh graphics again the 119 units

[1:32:26] and all the requests um for the variance

[1:32:28] requests um the only variance required

[1:32:30] again is is the uh minimum building site

[1:32:33] the the the lot size and so I want to

[1:32:36] note here that um out of the 119

[1:32:39] the you know 90 whatever it is 24 lots I

[1:32:43] I'll I'll stick to the number on the

[1:32:44] screen 24 lots are under 17,000 so the great majority of the lots are

[1:32:49] actually graded in 17,000 including many

[1:32:52] as you can see like the entirety of

[1:32:53] block 7 which is 19,000 the entirety of

[1:32:56] block 6 which is 18,500 and higher. So

[1:32:59] by no means is the request to bring down

[1:33:03] every lot to the 15,800 or so feet that

[1:33:07] we have in a handful of lots. It's the

[1:33:10] majority of the lots are 1819. All of

[1:33:12] black block 9 as you can see on the

[1:33:14] right is 21,000 with the exception of a

[1:33:17] couple of lots that are actually in

[1:33:18] excess of the halfacre. So again, the

[1:33:20] request is somewhat borne out by the

[1:33:23] road networks and how you break it up

[1:33:24] and then some of the blocks getting a

[1:33:26] little smaller. Um, and also driven

[1:33:29] candidly, as we've discussed with all of

[1:33:30] you, by a lot of market economics. The

[1:33:33] development of the site is a fixed cost.

[1:33:35] The property comes at a fixed cost. I

[1:33:37] mean, whatever the cost of the land is,

[1:33:39] the water and sewer that will be brought

[1:33:41] to this site from the county. We're not going to be taxing the city's

[1:33:46] infrastructure here. we're we're we're

[1:33:47] going to um tap tap into another LAR

[1:33:51] community that has to be brought in at

[1:33:53] the developer's cost. All of those are

[1:33:55] fixed costs regardless of the exact

[1:33:56] number of lots. And so, you know, given

[1:33:58] how expensive land is, how expensive

[1:34:00] development is, how expensive water

[1:34:01] infraure water and sewer infrastructure

[1:34:03] is. The the project before you is the

[1:34:06] one that is able to provide for um a um

[1:34:09] a project that works for all folks. And we've talked a little bit about the

[1:34:12] prices. I mean, these are homes that are

[1:34:14] we anticipate will go on the market

[1:34:16] between the middle 700s to the middle to

[1:34:18] high 800s. So, it's in that spot um of homes that are admittedly step up

[1:34:24] homes. I mean, most folks will buy an

[1:34:26] initial home. It might be a town home.

[1:34:28] It might be a small single family home.

[1:34:29] And this will be obviously uh you know,

[1:34:31] for a lot of folks a second family home

[1:34:33] a little later in their life. um and and

[1:34:36] will provide for that space and

[1:34:38] amenities um that frankly is hard to get

[1:34:41] in most of Day County at this point to

[1:34:43] have 18 19 20 21,000 square feet lots.

[1:34:46] Um here is a graphic depiction. The

[1:34:48] smallest lots um you had it in in the

[1:34:51] tab form or in the chart form. And

[1:34:54] here's the smallest lots. And again the smaller lots are are principally

[1:35:00] driven by the fact that those road

[1:35:01] networks on the west side also break it

[1:35:03] up. And so that is the space that we

[1:35:06] have to so to speak um on on both sides

[1:35:09] of those roads which when you then

[1:35:11] divide it up into the home sites

[1:35:13] generates the the lot sizes that you

[1:35:15] have before you. But it also means that

[1:35:17] it's well into the community will not be

[1:35:20] visible from 296 or 192nd Avenue. That

[1:35:23] is those traversing through the area are

[1:35:26] not although I've said this before, it

[1:35:28] is difficult when you're driving to note

[1:35:30] the difference between a 16,000t lot and

[1:35:32] a 19,000 foot lot. I I I do this for a

[1:35:35] living and driving down the street

[1:35:36] you're you're hardressed because it's

[1:35:38] both width and depth. So you it's really

[1:35:40] hard to see what you're going to see is

[1:35:41] an estateized lot. But nevertheless,

[1:35:43] they are within the community to the

[1:35:45] west side, closer to the county parcel,

[1:35:48] furthest away from the established

[1:35:49] pattern on the east side of 192nd Avenue

[1:35:52] and the major thorough affairs of

[1:35:54] Avocado and 192nd. And I I think we've

[1:35:57] talked about the compatibility of the

[1:35:59] project um substantially. Um the

[1:36:02] tentative plat, which as as you all know

[1:36:05] um is um is is and I'm going to go back

[1:36:08] because I want to touch on one other

[1:36:09] point. um the the tentative plat which

[1:36:12] is your um you know surveyor's review of

[1:36:16] all of the technical requirements of

[1:36:17] state and county uh procedures. So it's mostly governed by state and county

[1:36:23] platting. Um but uh obviously your city

[1:36:26] has an obligation to approve the

[1:36:27] tentative plat.

[1:36:28] is pursuant to your staff's

[1:36:31] recommendation and review consistent

[1:36:33] with the site plan and meets all of the

[1:36:35] requirements um for um the subdivision

[1:36:38] of this parcel. I brought it back to

[1:36:40] this site plan because I wanted to talk

[1:36:41] a little bit because there was a lot of

[1:36:42] discussion. One of the requests that we

[1:36:44] got from staff and again we work closely

[1:36:46] with uh with Miss Storch and and her

[1:36:48] team at development services was the

[1:36:50] desire to have along the northern

[1:36:52] perimeter of the property on 296 along

[1:36:55] the eastern perimeter on 190 second

[1:36:58] avenue on the um 300 street which is a

[1:37:02] street that basically bisects our

[1:37:04] project from the estimates project and

[1:37:05] then on 194th coming down um a wider

[1:37:09] 10-foot buffer and I've had some

[1:37:12] discussions about the implications of

[1:37:14] that, but I I think the belief and

[1:37:16] desire was that that buffer um would

[1:37:18] provide again for some visible um

[1:37:21] greater plantings that would provide an

[1:37:23] opportunity for um again folks driving

[1:37:26] through to see a more lushly landscaped

[1:37:28] area rather than folks um not having

[1:37:31] that 10-ft buffer along those

[1:37:33] thoroughares and just being able to see

[1:37:35] more into the backyards of homes. What

[1:37:37] we're proposing here is um with that

[1:37:40] additional 10 feet of planting is and those 10 feet of planting will have

[1:37:44] trees, not bushes. So those trees

[1:37:46] obviously with the rain that we get in

[1:37:48] South Florida will grow and we'll

[1:37:49] provide for a canopy and and a visual

[1:37:52] break um where you know you you won't

[1:37:55] really see on avocado in 192nd in a few

[1:37:57] years the homes that are behind it

[1:38:00] because those lots and we were counting

[1:38:02] them and and most of the lots have eight

[1:38:03] trees across their backyard. Um, so

[1:38:06] they're they're they'll grow and they'll fill out. Um, one other point on

[1:38:10] that that I can confirm. I was asked a

[1:38:12] question by Councilwoman Avula, so I'll jump the gun here is um we are um

[1:38:18] planting um hedges and and and what

[1:38:22] we're doing is they're on the plans

[1:38:24] shown as 3T tall um but they will grow

[1:38:27] to six feet. Now if we plant taller and

[1:38:30] we have one of our sort of land

[1:38:32] development folks here from LAR today.

[1:38:34] If we plant taller hedges today, they

[1:38:36] have to be planted further apart because

[1:38:38] their root structure is larger. If you

[1:38:40] do that, they might stay there. They'll be full size, but because they

[1:38:44] have to be planted further apart

[1:38:46] initially, you'll create gaps. So,

[1:38:48] you'll have the taller, but you'll

[1:38:50] create gaps. And so your concern of

[1:38:52] somebody walking on the sidewalk on 296,

[1:38:55] being able to look into someone's

[1:38:56] backyard would actually be less um

[1:39:00] contained than planting them at 3 ft

[1:39:02] closer and allowing them to grow in to

[1:39:05] their full size of 6 feet. But since

[1:39:06] they're planted at a closer time, they

[1:39:08] grow in and and get closer together. So

[1:39:10] if we plant them taller, they have to be

[1:39:12] planted further apart and they don't

[1:39:14] come in quite as fully and you end up

[1:39:15] with gaps. That's what the plan shows

[1:39:17] today. My hope is that that would

[1:39:19] ameliate your concern because the

[1:39:22] intention is that that does grow to be

[1:39:24] approximately six feet. The fence is 5

[1:39:26] feet that would be six feet on like 6'2.

[1:39:28] So again, unless you're talking about

[1:39:30] someone very tall and by the way, those

[1:39:32] folks would then have to see across 10

[1:39:34] ft wide of trees. So, I I think

[1:39:37] hopefully we we can address um I started

[1:39:39] writing it down as a condition for

[1:39:41] possible approval this evening, but I

[1:39:43] believe what's shown today is the 3 ft

[1:39:47] um tall as a space that will provide for

[1:39:50] that canopy. But I know you've got staff

[1:39:51] here that you can ask that for our our

[1:39:53] goal would be to create, you know,

[1:39:55] something that is that is private. So, I

[1:39:57] did want to talk about that a little

[1:39:59] bit. Um I will say that we are um we we

[1:40:03] have a you know we will be providing a a

[1:40:05] flag. So the middle the one middle green

[1:40:08] parcel that you see there um right there

[1:40:11] um serves two purposes. It's not really

[1:40:12] a common amenity. It is a lift station

[1:40:14] and it is the mailbox kiosk because as

[1:40:16] you all know the US postal service no

[1:40:18] longer delivers to every home. They they

[1:40:20] deliver to um a centralized location for

[1:40:23] every development across the country.

[1:40:25] That is not something we can get out of.

[1:40:26] So that that will have the mailbox kiosk

[1:40:28] and that will also have the lift station

[1:40:30] that we need for our project. Um and so

[1:40:32] we will have a flag there which is the

[1:40:34] kind of the center point of that

[1:40:35] community on 300th street and 194th

[1:40:38] Avenue. I can also say that if it's the

[1:40:40] wish of this council we are happy to

[1:40:42] include a um I had to look up what it's

[1:40:44] called but it's called a flag pole

[1:40:46] bracket and we can install flag pole

[1:40:48] bracket on each home as we construct

[1:40:51] those homes. Um and and you know folks

[1:40:54] can then fly as we discussed sometimes

[1:40:55] it's football season you fly a

[1:40:57] Hurricanes flag or a Notre Dame flag and

[1:41:00] uh uh that was for you Councilman

[1:41:02] Fletcher. Um better luck next year. Um

[1:41:06] but um but obviously American flag

[1:41:08] during all the all of our holidays, an

[1:41:11] Easter flag, well whatever the case may

[1:41:12] be. So the homes will all come with a flag pole bracket. I know that was requested. And again, um, I'll leave some time to discuss, um, I I

[1:41:21] touched on the CD, um, the ability to

[1:41:24] limit the CDD from any future expansion

[1:41:26] when the CD item is before you. So, I I

[1:41:28] had it in my notes that I wanted to

[1:41:30] comment on. And the other one was for

[1:41:33] those lots um,

[1:41:38] in block 10 um, which is the the the

[1:41:42] least deep lots. Um we have some I we

[1:41:46] have some options in which we could

[1:41:48] ensure that even with the slightly

[1:41:50] they're still 131 feet deep. I don't

[1:41:52] want anyone to think that these are like

[1:41:54] not deep lots but other lots are 135 140

[1:41:59] 142. So the loss of those three feet

[1:42:01] does impact the usability when you add

[1:42:03] in the setbacks and and so it would be a

[1:42:06] little more challenging for the five

[1:42:07] homes in that block to for instance add

[1:42:10] a pool but just for those five it it

[1:42:12] would you know be a little bit more

[1:42:14] difficult. We do have a solution. we can

[1:42:16] select and put certain models there, the

[1:42:20] smaller models. And obviously since

[1:42:21] they're smaller, there's a little bit

[1:42:22] more room in the back. If if this

[1:42:24] council wishes, we can have a

[1:42:25] conversation during questions, but that

[1:42:28] would ensure that even those five homes

[1:42:31] um would have the opportunity for that

[1:42:33] family that purchases the home to add a

[1:42:35] pool at a later date and have the room

[1:42:37] for it, which, you know, again, not

[1:42:38] every house has a pool and some folks

[1:42:40] may never add one, but giving the option

[1:42:42] is is always a good one. So, um I think

[1:42:44] we've kind of hit on all of the themes

[1:42:46] and we had a lot of questions and I've

[1:42:47] tried to anticipate some of the

[1:42:49] questions um that you've all asked

[1:42:51] already, but I suspect you'll have a few

[1:42:53] more and I'm happy to answer those. Um

[1:42:55] you know, for us, it's about being

[1:42:58] compatible to a recent approval. It's

[1:43:00] about being compatible to the area and

[1:43:02] the community. It's about not seeking

[1:43:04] greater density than that which the

[1:43:05] master plan allows. It's at coming in at

[1:43:08] 1.98 dwelling units per acre where you

[1:43:11] could have up to 2.5. That's what your

[1:43:13] master plan says. It's not, you know,

[1:43:15] not us picking a number. Um, it's about

[1:43:17] making sure that the project is

[1:43:18] compatible and will be something proud.

[1:43:21] And, um, you know, on that note, I leave

[1:43:23] you with scrolling through some of the

[1:43:25] architecture, which, you know, I often

[1:43:27] get more comments. Listen, architecture

[1:43:29] is tough. Colors, everybody, you know,

[1:43:31] we all like what we like, but we did go

[1:43:34] for something different. Lar certainly

[1:43:36] hasn't built this type of home in their

[1:43:38] community. Um, they built a lot more on

[1:43:40] the east side. It's a different typology

[1:43:42] of architecture here. As you can see the

[1:43:45] homes, you know, with the sighting, the

[1:43:47] different color garages. I mean, there's

[1:43:48] a lot that's being done here. Um, homes

[1:43:51] that have their garages on the side, for

[1:43:53] instance. I mean, obviously state homes

[1:43:55] and so you hide the garage entirely. You

[1:43:56] provide relief and elevations at the

[1:43:59] different places. Um, predominantly

[1:44:01] one-story models since the lots are

[1:44:02] bigger. Um, we do and as you can see in

[1:44:05] this graphic and in this one here, there

[1:44:07] are some some two-story models for the

[1:44:09] families that need a little more space

[1:44:11] or want the privacy. Some folks like to

[1:44:12] have their bedroom upstairs, whatever

[1:44:13] the case may be. But again, um, options

[1:44:16] and models and I think color palettes

[1:44:18] that um, hopefully complement a lot of

[1:44:21] what you're seeing um, and and the

[1:44:24] sighting and some of the architectural

[1:44:25] features that uh, hopefully are are um,

[1:44:28] amanable and um, acceptable to to the

[1:44:31] council. and we worked on some of those

[1:44:32] obviously with your development services

[1:44:34] director too. So, um I leave you with

[1:44:36] the pretty pictures because that's

[1:44:37] always the way to do it. I would urge

[1:44:39] you this evening to um approve all four

[1:44:42] requests before you. I will leave it to

[1:44:43] your attorney to tell you the order. Um

[1:44:45] I thank you all for your time because I

[1:44:47] know we met on several occasions with

[1:44:49] all of you and I look forward to

[1:44:50] answering your questions. Thank you.

[1:44:52] >> Thank you, Mr. Arza. Let me before we

[1:44:54] jump into any questions we may have, let

[1:44:57] me look to the audience and online and

[1:45:00] see if there are any members of the

[1:45:02] public who wish to speak either in favor

[1:45:05] or against

[1:45:07] this package of applications. Is there

[1:45:10] anyone online,

[1:45:12] anyone in the audience would wish to

[1:45:15] speak with respect to

[1:45:18] this new development?

[1:45:21] Okay, then

[1:45:23] last chance. I'll close the public

[1:45:26] hearing then and open it up to council's

[1:45:28] questions and comments who'd like to

[1:45:30] kick it off.

[1:45:34] » All right, go ahead.

[1:45:35] >> Don't all jump at once.

[1:45:37] >> It's and I'm going to say a lot of the

[1:45:38] stuff I want to say are things we've

[1:45:40] already discussed. Okay, good.

[1:45:41] >> Um

[1:45:42] >> I tried I tried I had my list here. It's

[1:45:45] >> um I will I won't be supporting the

[1:45:47] zoning change, but I'm assuming it'll

[1:45:48] pass. And so with that, I'll continue

[1:45:50] with my other comments. Okay. The growth

[1:45:52] is coming, but what we can control is

[1:45:56] whether or not the growth is going to

[1:45:57] erase our image and replace it or if

[1:46:00] it's going to reflect uh what we want it

[1:46:03] to reflect, which is our our homestead

[1:46:05] and agricultural roots and lifestyle

[1:46:07] that we want to preserve. We want it to

[1:46:09] mesh well with our future. Um I can

[1:46:12] appreciate the architectural design that was um

[1:46:18] displayed in this in this plan. I

[1:46:20] appreciate the color scheme. I think it

[1:46:22] looks modern and fresh and can appeal to

[1:46:25] the the the message that I'm trying to

[1:46:27] relay here. What what I am a little

[1:46:29] disappointed with is the landscaping um

[1:46:32] plan in general. I know you mentioned

[1:46:34] about the the hedge, which I can

[1:46:36] understand that they if the hedge is the

[1:46:39] type of plant that can grow to six feet,

[1:46:41] fine. But the pictures that I saw are

[1:46:43] small, more ground covered type of

[1:46:45] hedges that maybe can grow to two feet.

[1:46:48] Um, so I'd like to see that um be more

[1:46:51] specific. And with regards to the just

[1:46:56] the way that the sidewalk uh maybe is

[1:46:58] shaped instead of straight lines, more

[1:47:00] ergonomic or uh curvier shapes. I I

[1:47:04] would have loved to see some more um

[1:47:08] influences for agricultural gardentot

[1:47:10] lifestyle. As you mentioned, this is a

[1:47:12] step up, right? Maybe these families are

[1:47:14] more mature. They have older children.

[1:47:16] they're maybe getting into their uh more

[1:47:18] mature years as parents and spending

[1:47:21] more time at home and gardening and

[1:47:23] things like that. There's the other

[1:47:25] community that we're using as a as a

[1:47:26] base for this one had um garden raised

[1:47:29] garden beds as part of their their site

[1:47:31] plan accommodations. Uh so, you know,

[1:47:35] are these things that you have already

[1:47:37] considered and can potentially um add to

[1:47:39] this to this project? And um and I and I

[1:47:43] hope so because LAR has been very

[1:47:46] successful in creating Agrahood style uh

[1:47:49] communities in Florida and and I would

[1:47:52] expect that you you know that that Lenar

[1:47:54] could be the example and the the can set

[1:47:57] that um standard here in Homestead. Um

[1:48:00] we really don't have a lot of

[1:48:02] opportunity to make these design um

[1:48:05] initiatives um because of everything

[1:48:08] getting built out. So if this is going

[1:48:10] to I would really encourage council to

[1:48:13] try to try to

[1:48:16] include these types of aspects. the

[1:48:18] porches could have been more prominent

[1:48:20] so that you have that um inside that

[1:48:23] more outside living appeal

[1:48:26] and um

[1:48:30] and I think

[1:48:32] you know the fact that there's no HOA is

[1:48:34] definitely a plus but that could have

[1:48:37] been the mechanism to maybe helped with

[1:48:40] um creating um more

[1:48:45] outside areas and amenities for the

[1:48:47] families to enjoy. that could that could

[1:48:49] promote that agricultural loving

[1:48:51] lifestyle. And you know, I know that

[1:48:52] there's the debate of

[1:48:55] that's not the buyer we want to attract,

[1:48:56] but that's the that's the buyer we want

[1:48:58] to have here in Homestead, one who's

[1:48:59] going to continue to promote the voice

[1:49:02] of we're Homestead. We're not other

[1:49:05] areas. So, I I'll rest there. I'd love

[1:49:07] to hear the comments of um of my

[1:49:10] colleagues and and um reserve for

[1:49:13] response later. Thank you.

[1:49:15] >> Thank you, Councilwoman.

[1:49:17] Vice Mayor Bailey.

[1:49:19] >> Thank you, Mayor.

[1:49:21] I definitely would like to hear some

[1:49:23] more comments from you all as well. Um,

[1:49:26] you know, a lot of times when these

[1:49:28] variances come up, there is no hardship

[1:49:31] and we understand that it's a matter of

[1:49:35] maybe making it a little more uniform,

[1:49:36] getting a couple more units in there,

[1:49:39] which I can appreciate is in the end

[1:49:41] going to lower the price a little bit

[1:49:43] for our residents. But at the same time,

[1:49:47] Um, offering to put in a smaller house

[1:49:50] so that they can potentially have a

[1:49:51] pool. Definitely not what we're looking

[1:49:55] for. Um,

[1:49:56] >> to be fair, I mean, the smaller house

[1:49:58] is, I think, still about 3,000 square

[1:49:59] feet. I mean, no one would be I mean,

[1:50:01] it's still a a large home, but just I

[1:50:03] mean, I I if I said it that way, I just

[1:50:05] want to clarify that point. I mean, it's

[1:50:07] not a small home.

[1:50:09] >> I understand that. But to get into the

[1:50:12] thinking about that, then I just start

[1:50:14] going in these crazy rabbit holes of

[1:50:17] trying to imagine what people would

[1:50:19] want. And obviously we are none of us

[1:50:21] are ever going to know. Um, but this is

[1:50:24] one of the last lots that we have for

[1:50:27] these halfacre homes and there is a very

[1:50:30] big difference from the smallest to what

[1:50:34] should be approved. So, raised gardens,

[1:50:38] that was one of one of the small pieces.

[1:50:41] Um,

[1:50:43] that was concessioned for that other

[1:50:47] >> project. Um,

[1:50:50] for me, the side setbacks and the

[1:50:53] backyards are key for homestead. I feel

[1:50:56] like a lot of us do um do our living

[1:51:00] outside of the house as well. Uh, the

[1:51:02] porch is a good is a good point. that

[1:51:04] maybe would be a better concession. I

[1:51:07] know that you're not asking for a

[1:51:08] setback of the 50. What is it? 50.

[1:51:11] >> Yes, front is 50.

[1:51:12] >> Is it 52?

[1:51:14] >> 50.

[1:51:15] >> Um,

[1:51:17] so that's a that's a lot of front yard.

[1:51:20] >> I think that most most people it is a

[1:51:23] backyard thing, but if it does pass

[1:51:27] again that we can um consider having a

[1:51:31] larger porch.

[1:51:33] Um, side setbacks obviously aren't an

[1:51:36] issue here. Um, but that's one thing

[1:51:39] that after you you visit somewhere and

[1:51:42] you just feel that house right next to

[1:51:44] you, that's not um not what we're

[1:51:48] looking for. Um, flag pole bracket,

[1:51:52] right? But we need to talk a little

[1:51:54] more. Um so hence the I would like to

[1:51:58] hear more from my colleagues just because um

[1:52:06] yeah

[1:52:09] I would the one thing I'm glad about is

[1:52:12] that block 11 where they're

[1:52:18] the backyards are facing each other

[1:52:22] before we were able to talk specifics

[1:52:25] with the dimensions there.

[1:52:28] I was going to be a definite no because

[1:52:30] they look smaller than

[1:52:32] >> the middle block or sorry

[1:52:34] >> then block block 10 and 12.

[1:52:35] >> Right. Right.

[1:52:36] >> So 11

[1:52:38] >> if you can point to that.

[1:52:39] >> Yeah. Which is

[1:52:40] >> those are the three blocks with the

[1:52:41] small.

[1:52:42] >> Right. Right. And so that one I have.

[1:52:43] Yeah. There you go.

[1:52:44] >> So they end up being 30

[1:52:49] » 135 to 136 deep. not the 131 of block

[1:52:53] 10. Block 12 is also 135 to 136 deep.

[1:52:57] So, um 10 is the one that is by about 5t

[1:53:01] on average less deep

[1:53:03] >> and then those backyards would be 29

[1:53:05] >> width there

[1:53:06] >> 100 ft.

[1:53:07] >> 100.

[1:53:07] >> Yeah. Yeah. The lots are 100 ft wide.

[1:53:10] >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean the the homes I

[1:53:12] mean we have no sight setbacks. So, um

[1:53:14] and we have no um lot frontage. The lot

[1:53:18] size varies but not a lot frontage. So

[1:53:19] these homes are going to be your

[1:53:23] neighbor's home and your home are going

[1:53:25] to be to code as far as your code

[1:53:28] requires. So there is no seeing like you

[1:53:31] know it's it's even if this were being

[1:53:33] developed without the size variance lot

[1:53:36] size variance the distance between the

[1:53:39] structures would be exactly the same.

[1:53:40] >> Right. Right. So so we we're not you

[1:53:42] know and that does go a long way to

[1:53:45] giving folks a sense of privacy. Right.

[1:53:46] You can't reach out and touch. I mean,

[1:53:48] no, you've got, you know, 40 to 50 ft

[1:53:50] between you and your neighbor's house

[1:53:51] with your property lineed the way. So,

[1:53:53] there is an ample difference.

[1:53:55] >> And is this one of those projects where

[1:53:57] you are going where LAR is going to

[1:54:00] reach out to potential buyers for them

[1:54:03] to choose the size of the home that goes

[1:54:06] or

[1:54:06] >> Yeah. No, they they absolutely I mean,

[1:54:09] so LAR will will sell it'll have a sales

[1:54:11] center. It'll have a really

[1:54:13] >> a few of the models available. all the

[1:54:15] models if if approved the the the

[1:54:17] various models that you would have and

[1:54:18] then typically a buyer they can correct

[1:54:22] me but I've done this enough times I

[1:54:23] mean a buyer would come in a family they

[1:54:25] come in they look at a lot they may be

[1:54:27] interested in a home and then they

[1:54:29] that's how they generate their price we could in an effort to ensure that

[1:54:34] anyone who ultimately buys a home in

[1:54:36] block 10 we could say in for these five

[1:54:39] out of 119 for these five homes your

[1:54:42] choice is limited to these smaller again

[1:54:45] 3,000.

[1:54:46] >> So that's going to be their that's going

[1:54:48] to be their preference. Maybe the 29 ft

[1:54:51] backyard is perfect for them because

[1:54:52] they just want a small patio. So that's

[1:54:55] my point is they would be able to see

[1:54:57] that and know I'm choosing the

[1:54:58] twobedroom or the threebedroom and I'm

[1:55:00] not getting a pool or vice versa.

[1:55:02] >> More like three or four or five. But

[1:55:04] yes, bedrooms. Yes. Yes. I'm absolutely

[1:55:06] right. My backyard. the smallest any of

[1:55:08] those backyards could be would be 29

[1:55:11] >> for the two smallest models. Um either

[1:55:15] of the two smallest models in block 10

[1:55:17] would permit for a 10 by 15.

[1:55:19] >> Correct. But regardless of the size of

[1:55:21] the house, the smallest backyard would

[1:55:23] be 29 ft.

[1:55:25] >> I'd have to double check that. That's a

[1:55:27] number I didn't crunch, but I can. It's

[1:55:29] here. Okay. I mean I Is that

[1:55:31] >> the setback? The required setback is 25.

[1:55:36] >> and you are comp

[1:55:38] >> right so it sounds like yeah because we

[1:55:40] weren't right at the

[1:55:41] >> 25 could be more depending on the

[1:55:44] >> so I guess yes we weren't asking for

[1:55:46] variance so it could have it could have

[1:55:48] been as small as 25 but yes then it's 29

[1:55:52] I'm sorry I gave you that sheet I didn't

[1:55:53] get it back so

[1:55:54] >> I said I I said I'd have it here you

[1:55:56] never came

[1:55:57] >> it's okay so yeah I just didn't have it

[1:55:58] but yes so if that's what that says that

[1:56:00] would be

[1:56:00] >> what other concessions come to mind that

[1:56:02] you can throw out there before My

[1:56:04] comments.

[1:56:04] >> Well, look, I I I'll touch on the the

[1:56:06] issue of the planter boxes. We've talked

[1:56:08] about that. I mean, obviously, Aspen

[1:56:10] Estates, I don't think it's sold out or

[1:56:11] is selling yet. Um, as an offer, as an

[1:56:14] option, I I think we'd be happy to make

[1:56:16] that available to buyers. I think you,

[1:56:19] Councilwoman, I'm going to use your

[1:56:20] words, you yourself said. I mean, look,

[1:56:22] you know, most people if they want that

[1:56:23] will go to Home Depot and buy that for a

[1:56:25] few hundred dollars. I mean, I don't

[1:56:26] think that this is a, you know, but if in an effort to have it be a nod to a

[1:56:31] continuation of a theme. Um, making it

[1:56:35] so that they don't have to go to Home

[1:56:36] Depot that it could be something that

[1:56:38] could be placed there for them, you

[1:56:40] know, a an herb little herb garden or

[1:56:42] whatever the case may be, flowers,

[1:56:44] something to to promote. Um,

[1:56:46] >> to be fair, that was just an example.

[1:56:48] And with the Aspen Estates, they

[1:56:50] actually had a home a homeowners

[1:56:52] association that was going to promote

[1:56:54] special programming within the community

[1:56:56] where there would be,

[1:56:57] >> you know, more participation, organized

[1:57:00] participation. But the I think the

[1:57:02] example is that

[1:57:03] >> it's a very small gesture, right?

[1:57:06] >> That could mean a lot and could

[1:57:08] encourage somebody who may not otherwise

[1:57:10] take the time to do it to start trying.

[1:57:12] >> Yeah. I I don't I don't think we have

[1:57:14] any objection to making that, you know,

[1:57:16] to making that something that can be

[1:57:17] offered. just to

[1:57:18] >> if the programming isn't there in the

[1:57:20] HOA to help with it, then at the same

[1:57:22] time it is a $200 pain in the neck for

[1:57:26] someone.

[1:57:26] >> Sure. Yeah. Well, they can choose it.

[1:57:28] But I'm saying that's what I'm saying. I

[1:57:29] think we can make it an option that we

[1:57:31] would go ahead and when it gets built

[1:57:33] install it so that nobody's got to go do

[1:57:35] it later. That's what I'm offering. And

[1:57:37] that way that might be a person that

[1:57:38] thinks that they want to do it. Yeah. I

[1:57:40] mean, I think it's a I mean, personally,

[1:57:42] I think most homeowners would rather not

[1:57:44] pay an additional HOA fee to, you know,

[1:57:46] I mean, your city has a lot of programs

[1:57:48] to promote farming. I mean, I think

[1:57:49] there's a lot of other ways that folks

[1:57:50] could probably address that, but we

[1:57:52] could give them the option, and I'm

[1:57:53] happy to include giving them the option

[1:57:55] as as an opportunity.

[1:57:57] >> Um,

[1:57:58] >> I mean, thank you.

[1:58:00] >> Thank you, Councilwoman. Council

[1:58:02] Fletcher,

[1:58:04] >> I'll just uh start by saying uh

[1:58:07] ultimately I've never been a fan of the

[1:58:09] architecture that's ever been provided

[1:58:11] to us on any of these projects. Okay. Uh

[1:58:14] but that's my personal preference.

[1:58:17] >> Okay. Uh LAR sells properties all over

[1:58:19] the United States with different styles

[1:58:20] and you could go to their website and

[1:58:22] see and I I may like one more than the

[1:58:24] other. Not up to me. I'm not buying this

[1:58:26] house. I live where I live. I never

[1:58:27] thought I'd like the Mediterranean style

[1:58:29] I live in, but I love it. Um, so I think

[1:58:32] it to each their own when they're buying

[1:58:34] a home. Uh, I I believe the lot sizes

[1:58:37] are comparable to what we've approved in

[1:58:39] the past. Uh, again, would I like to

[1:58:42] have larger lots? Absolutely. But I

[1:58:45] think ultimately they're going to be in

[1:58:47] relation to what folks like as far as

[1:58:50] setbacks concerned. I would like to see

[1:58:52] more circular driveways with the larger

[1:58:54] front yards. But again, that's my inner

[1:58:58] architect out there and nobody's going

[1:59:00] to agree with me on everything. Um,

[1:59:06] I will just have to to say that the the

[1:59:08] buyer is going to have to to make their

[1:59:10] choice when they buy the house. Um, I I

[1:59:12] can support this tonight based on what

[1:59:14] it's at.

[1:59:16] Again, the color palettes, there's going

[1:59:18] to be offered different colors, but if

[1:59:19] you look at most of the developments in

[1:59:21] town, they're all the same color. And

[1:59:23] I'm not a fan of that. But again, that's

[1:59:25] the buyer's preference at that point.

[1:59:27] Um, I don't want to put too many

[1:59:29] restrictions on the the builder because

[1:59:31] those restrictions start costing more

[1:59:32] money and and the houses become more.

[1:59:34] So, I'll rest it there for now and I'm

[1:59:37] open to hearing the other comments and I

[1:59:39] may change my mind on one or two things.

[1:59:41] Thank you.

[1:59:42] >> Thank you, Councilwoman Fledge.

[1:59:44] Oh, who wants to jump in? Councilwoman

[1:59:47] Ksky or Councilwoman Roth first?

[1:59:51] Go ahead. Council Councilwoman Ksky.

[1:59:54] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, Mr. Arza, um,

[1:59:58] you're in my neighborhood.

[2:00:00] >> Yes, you told me.

[2:00:01] >> Yes. And on our farmland.

[2:00:04] >> And what? I'm sorry.

[2:00:04] >> And on our farmland, which is very near

[2:00:07] and dear to me and to the neighboring

[2:00:09] um, residents that live there. Um I have

[2:00:12] stressed my concern that you are on the

[2:00:15] cusp of the Redlands and um my concern

[2:00:20] in you being conducive to what is in the

[2:00:23] Redlands even though this is Homestead.

[2:00:26] Um I understand that development is

[2:00:28] coming.

[2:00:29] >> There's not much that we can do to stop

[2:00:30] it. Um but I want you to consider the

[2:00:34] uniqueness of the area. Um, I'm very

[2:00:38] saddened to see what the county has

[2:00:39] approved to the west of you as we're

[2:00:42] making that transition into those larger

[2:00:44] lots, larger homes, a true estate house

[2:00:47] where people have customuilt their home

[2:00:48] and made it exactly what they want, that

[2:00:50] uniqueness that the Redland uh area

[2:00:53] offers. So, that has always been my

[2:00:55] concern with you is that um

[2:01:00] I hate to use the word cookie cutter,

[2:01:01] but you know, it's it when they all look

[2:01:04] the same as as Mr. Fletcher has pointed

[2:01:06] out. Um I'm I don't favor that either.

[2:01:11] Um

[2:01:12] >> the term plan development.

[2:01:13] >> Plan development. Sorry.

[2:01:15] >> No, but your point is taken.

[2:01:18] >> I agree with um Councilwoman Avala as

[2:01:22] well that you know we're trying to

[2:01:25] retain what we can of our farmland.

[2:01:28] Um,

[2:01:30] I just want to represent my my district

[2:01:33] well

[2:01:34] >> and know that I want to offer them the

[2:01:37] best I can with what's coming down the

[2:01:38] road. I whether it's today or tomorrow,

[2:01:40] I'd rather see homes of a larger scale,

[2:01:43] larger lot line, uh, land. you know, if

[2:01:46] we're going to make this unique like an

[2:01:47] estate home, let's give them room like

[2:01:49] we discussed for recreation vehicles,

[2:01:52] their boats, their their pole barns,

[2:01:54] their workshops, you know, um this is a

[2:01:58] smaller scale to what they could

[2:02:00] possibly buy in the Redlands instead of

[2:02:02] buying two and a half or five acres to

[2:02:03] build on. You're offering something

[2:02:05] different. So, let's offer them that,

[2:02:07] you know, let's let's um make it

[2:02:10] something that it will transition. Well,

[2:02:12] that that's always been my request. So,

[2:02:15] um, I'll rest there.

[2:02:17] >> Yeah. And we talked about this and just

[2:02:19] to point out, I mean, obviously, I think

[2:02:20] with the vast majority of the lots being

[2:02:22] 19, 18, 19, 20,000, I mean, your city

[2:02:26] regulations will govern um the use that

[2:02:30] you're referring to. I mean, and there

[2:02:31] are for the vast majority of the these

[2:02:34] properties, there are 40 or 50 by 40, 50

[2:02:38] feet wide entire areas in their

[2:02:40] backyards where they can build an

[2:02:41] accessory structure, where they could

[2:02:42] build all that. nothing is prescribed by

[2:02:44] what we're proposing here. Admittedly,

[2:02:47] some of the smaller lots may not be able

[2:02:48] to enjoy all of those um opportunities.

[2:02:51] You know, maybe you can't have, you

[2:02:53] know, all of those. By the way, in the

[2:02:55] county, you can't have multiple

[2:02:56] accessory units unless you get special

[2:02:58] permission either. So, it's it's, you

[2:03:00] know, it's on a smaller scale, but

[2:03:02] nothing here prescribes if they meet

[2:03:04] your code otherwise. This is not a PUB

[2:03:07] or something where we're going to tell

[2:03:08] people as long as they meet code. I

[2:03:10] mean, if somebody wants to do, you know,

[2:03:12] an accessory in the backyard such as the

[2:03:14] ones we were talking about, um, they

[2:03:16] would be able to do so. Um, and for a

[2:03:19] lot of the lots, um, they will, they

[2:03:21] would have room. They could choose to do

[2:03:22] that instead of a pool or do a smaller

[2:03:24] pool and do that. So, that option will

[2:03:25] be there. As you said, on a smaller

[2:03:26] scale, the 2 and a half or 5acre parcel,

[2:03:29] and you know this because of your line

[2:03:30] of work, is considerably more expensive.

[2:03:33] And so, it is a trade-off. and a family

[2:03:35] may say, "Well, this gives me a new

[2:03:36] home." The ability to do one of those

[2:03:38] things and, you know, get a taste of all

[2:03:41] of that. Undoubtedly, if they could,

[2:03:44] they, you know, perhaps would love to

[2:03:45] buy the 2 and 1/2acre parcel outside.

[2:03:47] Um, but that one comes at probably twice

[2:03:50] the cost. We would know better, but I

[2:03:52] think it's hard to find a 2 and 1

[2:03:53] halfacre parcel in the Redlands for less

[2:03:54] than a million and a half or maybe more.

[2:03:57] These homes are going to be half, a

[2:03:58] little more than half the price. It's a

[2:04:00] trade-off. I mean, these are families

[2:04:01] that are going to come into your

[2:04:02] community. we'll still be able to do

[2:04:03] some of those things admittedly on a

[2:04:05] smaller scale. So I I mean we're trying

[2:04:07] to find that balance

[2:04:10] council.

[2:04:13] Okay.

[2:04:15] So I'm really torn as the grant as

[2:04:18] someone who's lived here my entire life

[2:04:20] who had his brothers

[2:04:23] this would remain a farm field. That's

[2:04:26] not reality. And I don't really think

[2:04:29] that that's what's trying to be saved

[2:04:31] here. I think what's trying to be saved

[2:04:33] is the atmosphere

[2:04:35] >> of more open spaces and you know as on

[2:04:40] one hand as the grandson of somebody who

[2:04:42] built a lot of custom homes throughout

[2:04:44] Homestead and the Redlands built what

[2:04:46] people wanted as they wanted it. nothing

[2:04:49] ever looks alike versus the reality of

[2:04:53] the cost of land, the cost of

[2:04:55] construction, and the time value of of

[2:05:00] money. So

[2:05:02] to I think to both of Councilwoman Ksky

[2:05:06] and and Alvala's point, you know, this

[2:05:09] is a unique potential for a unique

[2:05:11] neighborhood where people have plenty of

[2:05:14] room to live outside.

[2:05:16] >> Typically in their backyard,

[2:05:20] >> we're not Mayberry. People aren't living

[2:05:22] on their front porches. Maybe someday

[2:05:25] when redevelopment comes on the west

[2:05:27] side of downtown on a larger scale than

[2:05:30] Pioneer Village, maybe. So,

[2:05:33] uh, my neighborhood, you know, and and I

[2:05:35] get you didn't want to come here with

[2:05:37] too many variances.

[2:05:39] You know, I think most everybody knows

[2:05:40] where I live. My house is set back about

[2:05:42] 25 ft and I've got room for three

[2:05:46] massive oak trees in the front yard.

[2:05:50] thinking out loud and and and it just

[2:05:52] dawned on me here tonight that on the

[2:05:55] size lots that we're talking about, a 50

[2:05:59] foot setback for a front yard is the

[2:06:03] waste of a lot of space.

[2:06:06] That you're killing the backyard.

[2:06:11] Thinking out loud,

[2:06:13] even at 35 feet, you still have plenty

[2:06:17] of room for the circular driveway,

[2:06:20] the the the pad going into the garage.

[2:06:23] It could accommodate a car without being

[2:06:27] out in the sidewalk or or blocking the

[2:06:29] street. And I'm wondering if

[2:06:34] your concern, my colleagues concerns of

[2:06:36] open space and cramped backyards could

[2:06:39] be alleviated

[2:06:41] by layering in everybody being at a

[2:06:45] front setback of 35 ft to create

[2:06:50] backyards that are 15 feet deeper. Now

[2:06:54] look, I don't know if anybody and

[2:06:55] everybody wants planting beds, but if we

[2:06:59] want to create old South Dade and Old

[2:07:03] Homestead,

[2:07:04] we could talk about every backyard

[2:07:07] coming with some fruit trees or an

[2:07:09] avocado tree or a mango tree or what

[2:07:12] have you as part of the landscaping

[2:07:16] plan.

[2:07:18] Yeah, I hate to say it, but this is this

[2:07:20] is not going to be a property. the folks

[2:07:23] who are selling it are not

[2:07:25] agriculturalist. We're we're way beyond

[2:07:28] that. So, if it's a look and a feel and

[2:07:31] an atmosphere,

[2:07:33] and again, just thinking out loud, I'm

[2:07:36] wondering if to a certain extent that

[2:07:38] could be adjusted by moving everything

[2:07:40] up to the 35- foot setback line

[2:07:45] and and layering in a couple of kinds of

[2:07:48] fruit trees in the backyard somewhere

[2:07:51] like old Miami, old Pinerest before it

[2:07:54] was Pinerest where every, you know, the

[2:07:56] ones that are left, they got massive

[2:07:58] ancient ancient mango trees in the uh in

[2:08:02] the backyard. So,

[2:08:05] dispensing with all that theoretical uh

[2:08:09] frustrated architect and and planner

[2:08:12] when we first talked about this, you

[2:08:15] know, we obviously made the analysis to

[2:08:17] the DR project to the south and I'm

[2:08:19] sorry, the name of the subdivision

[2:08:20] escapes me.

[2:08:21] >> Aspen estates.

[2:08:22] You know, we're trying

[2:08:24] kind of making a onetoone comparison.

[2:08:28] One of the issues we had in Aspen

[2:08:30] Estates was it was all singlestory

[2:08:33] >> and I think we talked about that when

[2:08:35] you first came to visit me and to me

[2:08:38] that's very appealing and I understand

[2:08:40] here you've got at least one

[2:08:42] >> we have one twotory model

[2:08:43] >> twotory model

[2:08:44] >> right

[2:08:45] >> um

[2:08:45] >> the majority of the models are one story

[2:08:47] >> yeah um and echoing Councilman Fletcher

[2:08:52] not that that's great but these designs

[2:08:54] are a step up from what we have seen in

[2:08:57] Homestead in deep south aid. So to that

[2:08:59] extent, I'll compliment your client

[2:09:01] who's who's with you uh today. So So I'm wondering if and I understand it's a

[2:09:09] major adjustment. And going back to the

[2:09:11] drawing board, if that would ease some

[2:09:14] of the discomfort some of you have

[2:09:18] with this entire package

[2:09:21] by moving the houses slightly forward to

[2:09:24] create larger backyards that can

[2:09:27] accommodate the pole barns, the sheds,

[2:09:30] the pools, and fruit trees and shade

[2:09:34] trees.

[2:09:36] Councilwoman,

[2:09:37] >> thank you, Mayor. You know what I was

[2:09:39] really what I really would like to have

[2:09:41] is the client take ownership of of

[2:09:44] bringing forward the ideas as we off the

[2:09:46] cusp here. We can think of a couple

[2:09:48] things.

[2:09:48] >> Well, that that requires variance to be

[2:09:50] fair.

[2:09:50] >> Well, and I understand that and I think

[2:09:52] that if you're showing us a 50 a 50 foot

[2:09:55] front yard and a 10-ft backyard like

[2:09:58] doesn't make sense to us. So, you know,

[2:10:00] sometimes contractors will call their

[2:10:02] inspection so that it can fail, hear

[2:10:04] what you need to do, and then call back

[2:10:06] the inspector to pass the second time.

[2:10:08] And I think this is the opportunity for

[2:10:09] you to take it back, redesign the the

[2:10:12] backyard

[2:10:14] and bring us some options that a

[2:10:17] potential buyer could select from that

[2:10:19] promotes the agricultural and preserves

[2:10:22] the agricultural components of our

[2:10:23] community. So, bigger yards, um, the

[2:10:28] fruit trees.

[2:10:29] >> Well, you just do it rather than have it

[2:10:31] as an option. You just

[2:10:32] >> Right. But you know,

[2:10:34] >> and that would be in their landscaping

[2:10:35] plan

[2:10:36] >> in their landscaping plan

[2:10:37] >> that we would approve,

[2:10:38] >> right? The single stories. What I would

[2:10:41] like to see as well is just maybe, you

[2:10:43] know, instead of it being square lines

[2:10:45] or straight lines, give show me some movement in the design. Um, and

[2:10:52] Lenar Larara is an excellent corporate

[2:10:54] citizen, right?

[2:10:56] I'm not going to ask you guys to help us

[2:10:58] create programming, but

[2:11:01] profer something. You're asking for a

[2:11:02] variance like help us get there.

[2:11:05] >> So, I'll rest again. Thank you.

[2:11:07] >> And and that's the difference. You know,

[2:11:09] I like traditional old neighborhoods

[2:11:12] with the straight streets because you've

[2:11:15] got a heavy landscaping plan that

[2:11:17] basically hides the density

[2:11:21] that is, you know, the straight line is

[2:11:24] more in line with what was traditionally

[2:11:27] on the west side than the curvy linear

[2:11:30] streets.

[2:11:30] >> I think I messed up.

[2:11:31] >> Did Yeah.

[2:11:33] >> Okay. Yeah, I was thinking, you know,

[2:11:35] because Yeah, the streets. But just

[2:11:38] thinking out loud, 50 feet of front yard

[2:11:41] in my neighborhood, cuz those lots are

[2:11:43] essentially, you know, my neighborhood

[2:11:45] runs from 15,000 and I'm on a little

[2:11:48] over 20,000. 50 ft of front yard is a

[2:11:52] lot of wasted space. Um,

[2:11:56] I think it it would make for a much more

[2:12:00] livable and usable

[2:12:03] piece of property. Mayor if I may

[2:12:05] >> also early on um in in our city

[2:12:09] manager's um appointment there was a lot

[2:12:13] of discussion about creating a community

[2:12:14] benefits package. I have I haven't seen

[2:12:17] that. I I don't recall seeing one on on

[2:12:21] previous developments in the recent

[2:12:24] um you know in the recent applications.

[2:12:26] Is there a community benefits package

[2:12:28] that I'm overlooking in this case?

[2:12:30] >> Nothing beyond impact fees and and the

[2:12:32] like.

[2:12:34] All right. So that so that might be an

[2:12:35] opportunity for for us to consider

[2:12:38] >> coming. So I think the city attorney is

[2:12:41] going to do a comprehensive code rewrite

[2:12:45] which is where he's going to embed some

[2:12:46] of these initiatives into the city code.

[2:12:51] » Well, go ahead, Vice Mayor.

[2:12:54] >> Thank you. if if if if it's going the

[2:12:57] way I think it is tonight and they have

[2:12:59] a chance to go and reimagine

[2:13:01] uh maybe also look at you know if you're

[2:13:03] moving the house closer to the street

[2:13:06] allow for that potential extra accessory

[2:13:08] building in the backyard similar to

[2:13:10] maybe a one-bedroom with a small garage

[2:13:12] type scenario workshop like we kind of

[2:13:15] have in Westberry now to have that

[2:13:18] potential there where you could put a

[2:13:20] in-law if you needed to down the road to help with those type of issues.

[2:13:27] >> Let's don't double density. Let's find a

[2:13:29] place to to to put your boat and your

[2:13:31] play cars. Not

[2:13:33] >> not renters that create more solid

[2:13:35] wasters. It'd be more like again more family type oriented like we would

[2:13:40] do back in the old days,

[2:13:41] >> right? I think you know there is

[2:13:42] experience here because Lenar leads on

[2:13:44] that nextgen product where you can have

[2:13:46] it's there's a sandwich family where you

[2:13:48] have the the parents raising their

[2:13:49] children but their the grandparents are

[2:13:51] also with them and that's the village

[2:13:53] concept but um

[2:13:56] >> and I'm open to something like that

[2:13:58] again just uh if it were in mine I I

[2:14:01] would live in a condo without any yard

[2:14:03] and and I'd want a garage to go with it

[2:14:05] a big garage. So,

[2:14:08] thank you. But, you know, I And look, I

[2:14:11] don't know because we've got we've got a

[2:14:13] reasonzoning, which you're entitled to

[2:14:15] because of the comp plan overlay.

[2:14:19] Your next item, your next just to to

[2:14:21] recap so we're all on the same page. You

[2:14:24] got the reasonzoning

[2:14:26] from AU

[2:14:27] to estate density

[2:14:29] >> A2

[2:14:30] >> to A2

[2:14:32] >> which you're entitled to because of our

[2:14:34] longstanding

[2:14:38] overlay. And then the next question

[2:14:40] becomes how are you going to lay the

[2:14:43] lots out? And so the next item per vote

[2:14:46] would be the variance correct

[2:14:49] >> for the lot sizes. If the variance

[2:14:52] fails,

[2:14:53] >> you go no further than

[2:14:55] >> correct

[2:14:56] >> than that. And you know this, I'm not

[2:14:58] preaching lawyer just so that we all,

[2:15:00] >> you know, kind of take a step back and see where we are in the uh in the

[2:15:06] process. So let me ask you this.

[2:15:10] Hypothetically speaking,

[2:15:14] what would be the expense and time frame

[2:15:19] to layer in

[2:15:22] a variance for a 35 rather than a 50ft

[2:15:25] setback?

[2:15:28] >> Realistically, it probably would take us

[2:15:30] two months to get back here. And my

[2:15:31] guess is, you know, you have to redo all

[2:15:33] the plans. Everything needs to be shown.

[2:15:35] You got to get it to the city. The city

[2:15:37] has to review. We've already looked at

[2:15:39] everything else.

[2:15:41] >> Then I mean I I won't put them on the

[2:15:43] spot. Then you know I mean I can assure

[2:15:45] you the director our our yeah our

[2:15:47] architects would prepare that and get it

[2:15:49] to the city and you know by early next

[2:15:51] week something like that. Obviously that

[2:15:53] will require an additional item and then

[2:15:56] that's you know

[2:15:56] >> well but that's just a a text filing.

[2:15:59] You're not

[2:16:00] >> relocating and redrawing

[2:16:03] >> your lots.

[2:16:03] >> Well I think I think we do show

[2:16:05] depictions on all of the sites of the

[2:16:07] distance. all of your development

[2:16:09] services folks are nodding. So yeah, I

[2:16:10] think those have to now I mean look

[2:16:12] that's that's a CAD program that and I'm

[2:16:15] speaking the only people not here

[2:16:16] tonight are the architects and I'm

[2:16:17] putting words in their mouth but we

[2:16:18] could probably get that to you guys in

[2:16:20] short order. We would have to of course

[2:16:22] file an application for an additional

[2:16:24] variance request staff would prepare

[2:16:26] their um undoubtedly recommendation of

[2:16:29] denial because there would be no

[2:16:31] hardship necessarily. You bring up great

[2:16:32] points. Trust me that you said it like

[2:16:35] we try not to ask for any other

[2:16:36] variances. It it stands to reason that

[2:16:39] 50 foot front yard is a really big front

[2:16:41] yard and 35 or 40 would would you know

[2:16:44] still look nice and would just give

[2:16:45] people that extra room. Um but it would

[2:16:47] be an additional item that would come

[2:16:48] with

[2:16:49] >> basically we're doing R1 lots under an

[2:16:51] A2

[2:16:53] category.

[2:16:55] >> Uh

[2:16:55] >> homestead R1, right?

[2:16:57] >> No, your R A R R1 would be 7500. We're

[2:17:01] not doing that.

[2:17:02] >> Okay.

[2:17:02] >> Yeah. No. Um, we're doing kind of

[2:17:06] county eum plus, right? Like nothing is

[2:17:10] smaller than doing

[2:17:10] >> because let's not kid ourselves. I some

[2:17:13] kind of development is going to happen.

[2:17:16] >> Yeah.

[2:17:16] >> On this site at some time.

[2:17:19] >> Mayor, I I suspect if we if your front

[2:17:22] setback was 40t in your code or 35, we

[2:17:25] would have designed it to 40 or 35 and

[2:17:27] we may not be having this discussion. So

[2:17:30] it's 50. We don't like to ask for a lot

[2:17:32] of variances. We were trying to match

[2:17:34] something. So now if we go through and

[2:17:38] submit, revise our plans, whatever has

[2:17:40] to be depicted, file the application and

[2:17:43] show it, you will have an additional

[2:17:44] variance, but we could certainly address

[2:17:48] >> a number of the concerns because you'll

[2:17:49] have more

[2:17:50] >> that could overcome the open space

[2:17:52] concern.

[2:17:52] >> Right. You you'll have more usable open

[2:17:54] space,

[2:17:55] >> backyard usability.

[2:17:56] >> Exactly. Yeah. you'll have more usable

[2:17:58] open space to provide wasted space,

[2:18:01] >> right? And I think as you put it that

[2:18:02] it's it's not you're not preserving

[2:18:04] farmland say that you can preserve a a

[2:18:07] >> the field with additional obviously

[2:18:10] backyard with more trees or the

[2:18:12] potential then to have that accessory

[2:18:13] size which again a lot of the lots do

[2:18:16] provide for that but certainly if you

[2:18:18] move the houses forward,

[2:18:19] >> right?

[2:18:19] >> You know then those lots will be that

[2:18:21] much more and even the smaller lots will

[2:18:23] all have ample backyards to do at least

[2:18:25] some of those things. So, um, look, you

[2:18:28] know, obviously we can, um, appreciate

[2:18:31] some of the comments and I can read the

[2:18:33] room. Um, you know, certainly we would

[2:18:35] welcome an opportunity to think down

[2:18:37] those lines, but I do want to be clear

[2:18:39] on the record. That would be an

[2:18:40] additional

[2:18:40] >> clearance. Sure. Let me let me ask the

[2:18:42] attorney though and I put you on the

[2:18:44] spot not and not practice on my own up

[2:18:46] here. If

[2:18:49] the reasonzoning passed tonight, our

[2:18:51] next item is the variance from the lot

[2:18:55] sizes.

[2:18:57] If that passes, we go on to the next two

[2:19:00] votes and everything moves forward.

[2:19:03] If the variance were to fail,

[2:19:08] in order for that to come back, there

[2:19:11] would have to be a motion for rehearing

[2:19:14] by someone who voted against the

[2:19:18] variance. And only at that point would

[2:19:21] you be in position

[2:19:24] to bring an application back that would include the variance for the law

[2:19:33] size and the setback. Is that fair?

[2:19:37] >> James the way that it works in your code

[2:19:39] is that if you denied it, you would deny

[2:19:41] it with either prejudice or not with not

[2:19:43] prejudice. And the difference is whether

[2:19:45] you can bring it back in six months or a

[2:19:47] year.

[2:19:49] You you you could uh look, it's an

[2:19:52] irrelevant point. I I think you could

[2:19:53] also It's an irrelevant point because

[2:19:55] I'm probably not going to I'm going to

[2:19:57] hope that we don't even get to that vote

[2:19:59] if it's not going to pass. But I also

[2:20:02] think you could you could pass you could vote it down in theory and um

[2:20:09] remove the six-month cooling off period.

[2:20:11] Correct.

[2:20:13] No, I I do I do, but I want to but the

[2:20:16] lawyer in me wants to answer the

[2:20:17] question. I mean, certainly I want to

[2:20:19] get the project approved this evening.

[2:20:20] >> He could do that, but he's got to get

[2:20:22] client approval.

[2:20:23] >> Yeah. I mean, I I would prefer I mean, I would um think it would show, you

[2:20:29] know, you know, to my client at least

[2:20:31] some some ability to move forward some

[2:20:32] faith that we could I mean, if the

[2:20:34] property could be reszoned to your

[2:20:35] point, you could take the first vote,

[2:20:37] property gets

[2:20:38] >> second reading and you

[2:20:39] >> and then, you know, reszone the

[2:20:41] property. I mean, this is an appropriate

[2:20:43] category. you have a recommendation of

[2:20:44] approval and then we would respectfully

[2:20:47] prior to the second the variance item

[2:20:50] potentially failing and I you know can

[2:20:52] count to seven or four um not much

[2:20:56] higher than that that's why I'm a lawyer

[2:20:57] um we would respectfully ask that you

[2:20:59] defer the remaining items let us discuss

[2:21:02] with staff and then we could modify the

[2:21:04] application to include potentially an

[2:21:06] additional variance and move and come

[2:21:08] back to you I would rather not get into

[2:21:10] denying it and and having to resubmit

[2:21:13] reapply because that that does require

[2:21:15] you to file the application a new which

[2:21:17] is a bunch of costs and I know I don't

[2:21:19] think anybody

[2:21:20] >> it's

[2:21:22] going to go forward in some form and we

[2:21:25] don't want to put undue burden we're not

[2:21:28] giving away the farm pardon the pun

[2:21:30] we're not giving away the farm here

[2:21:31] tonight but we don't want to put an

[2:21:33] undue in unblue do burden

[2:21:37] >> out there

[2:21:38] >> um do you need us to take a break and

[2:21:41] have you confer with your client Yeah, I

[2:21:43] mean I I I' I'd like to Yeah, for for

[2:21:45] sure. I don't think I need more than

[2:21:46] couple.

[2:21:47] >> Let's recess for five minutes. Allow you

[2:21:50] to confer with your client. Yes,

[2:21:51] Councilman Fletcher.

[2:21:53] >> And I'll also make a motion to extend

[2:21:54] the meeting to 9:30.

[2:21:56] >> Okay, so we got that. Let's move to

[2:21:57] extend this meeting to 9:30. I'll second

[2:21:59] that. All in favor?

[2:22:01] >> Any opposed? All right. So, my iPhone

[2:22:05] says it's 8:23. So, at let's just say

[2:22:07] 8:30, we will come out of recess.

[2:33:54] Okay, we'll call this meeting out of

[2:33:56] recess and back in session.

[2:34:01] » Mr. Ar.

[2:34:02] >> Yes, mayor. So, um, thank you for the

[2:34:04] time to confer with my client. So, um,

[2:34:07] what we've got more than anything else

[2:34:08] is a bit of a time crunch as you know.

[2:34:10] application was submitted well over a

[2:34:12] year ago. It's just taken time to get

[2:34:14] here. Even first reading was a couple

[2:34:15] months ago. So, we've just kind of lost

[2:34:16] some time along the way. Um, and so, you

[2:34:20] know, we've got sellers that have

[2:34:21] expectations that, you know, believe

[2:34:23] we'd be done this evening and we'll have

[2:34:25] to go back to them and secure

[2:34:26] extensions. And more than half of you on

[2:34:28] this board are real estate professionals

[2:34:30] of one type or another. So, you know how

[2:34:31] that process can go sometimes. So, um,

[2:34:34] you know, we believe we could do so, but

[2:34:36] we'd be very hardressed not to do it for

[2:34:39] more than to next month's meeting. So,

[2:34:42] um we we really, you know, we just think

[2:34:43] the sellers, you know, might want to

[2:34:45] extract too big a a pound of flesh, so

[2:34:48] to speak, if we ask for more time than

[2:34:50] that, um one that would be unsailable.

[2:34:53] So, um I if our team could resubmit or

[2:34:58] submit

[2:35:00] um the additional variance and the

[2:35:03] revised site plan, um the additional

[2:35:05] variance would be a front setback

[2:35:06] variance and the revised site plan to

[2:35:08] show then that the homes are closer to

[2:35:11] the front by close of business on

[2:35:13] Monday, which is the 27th, I believe. um

[2:35:18] you know of of April um you know I would

[2:35:21] love for there to be some communication

[2:35:24] today that they could staff and the

[2:35:27] administration could start working I

[2:35:28] mean look they have the recommendation

[2:35:29] of denial for the existing variance

[2:35:31] they're going to I know the

[2:35:32] recommendation

[2:35:33] >> it's the same analysis

[2:35:34] >> it's the same exactly so if if we had I

[2:35:37] mean in good faith and we've worked with

[2:35:39] I work with m storage for 20 years if in

[2:35:41] good faith we can all agree that we will

[2:35:43] get it in by close of business on Friday

[2:35:45] to give by Monday excuse today. I I just

[2:35:47] kind of, you know, it's they're not

[2:35:48] going to look at this till tomorrow. So,

[2:35:50] by Monday, close of business um for

[2:35:54] staff to receive, evaluate. There's no

[2:35:56] DRC, additional special DRC. I mean,

[2:35:59] this is part of a project that's been

[2:36:01] looked at for over a year. Um and that

[2:36:04] we would be back here for the main

[2:36:05] meeting. um with the deferred items plus

[2:36:07] the additional variance, you know, we

[2:36:10] will go to the sellers and, you know,

[2:36:11] hope that we can, you know, make it work

[2:36:13] with just the additional month. I think

[2:36:15] to get into anything longer than that

[2:36:16] might imperil the ability

[2:36:18] >> Let me let me ask the director, is that

[2:36:20] within the realm of possibility to

[2:36:22] review a variance?

[2:36:23] >> The important thing is that you define

[2:36:25] as soon as possible the the variance

[2:36:28] that you are going to ask for because we

[2:36:30] need to advertise for that. The rest we

[2:36:32] are going to we are going to defer. So

[2:36:34] if the size of the lots remain the same

[2:36:37] and that's the only thing we need to

[2:36:38] request, we need to know that as soon as

[2:36:40] possible to have time to advertise, send

[2:36:43] the notices and

[2:36:44] >> it will I think the the council

[2:36:46] expressed the desire to see a 35 foot

[2:36:49] front setback. So our Right. Is that

[2:36:51] what you said, Mayor? 35.

[2:36:52] >> I said 35. Yeah,

[2:36:53] >> 35. Right. So I mean the request would

[2:36:55] be consistent with front a variance of

[2:36:59] the front setback where all lots require

[2:37:01] a 50 foot front setback to 35 ft and you

[2:37:04] know and then obviously the pictures

[2:37:06] need to depict that but that for legal

[2:37:08] purposes and I don't know James I mean

[2:37:09] that I mean that's pretty stand. Yeah, I I'm not concerned the legal

[2:37:14] I I can I can commit to having the legal

[2:37:17] description or the legal request for the

[2:37:20] variance to staff by Friday and then

[2:37:23] we'll work on it tomorrow and get it

[2:37:24] done by Friday. That's the part that I

[2:37:25] can do. I'm not an architect. I don't

[2:37:27] want to put in their mouths redoing the

[2:37:29] plan. I need to let those professionals

[2:37:31] do their job. We'll have that by Monday,

[2:37:32] but that would be there by Friday, which

[2:37:34] I mean, again, I know you got it

[2:37:36] advertised for next month or so. Um,

[2:37:38] with that again, I I think it would help

[2:37:41] us and go a long way and hopefully in

[2:37:42] the spirit of compromise if the

[2:37:43] reasoning, which we all agree this is an

[2:37:45] appropriate category can occur, give

[2:37:47] some comfort to our sellers

[2:37:49] >> to work with us. We don't want them to

[2:37:51] run for the hills. um and and and make

[2:37:54] this, you know, an impossibility and

[2:37:55] then defer the remaining three items.

[2:37:57] >> Yeah, the three items

[2:37:58] >> and and come back then with, you know,

[2:38:00] those three plus an additional one and

[2:38:03] layer in some of the other things as as

[2:38:04] now that we have room and we can do so

[2:38:06] then then we'll look into obviously some

[2:38:08] of the other concerns that were brought

[2:38:09] in and see what else we can we can add.

[2:38:11] But that's the big

[2:38:12] >> Okay, appreciate that. So, yes, vice

[2:38:14] mayor.

[2:38:14] >> Thank you, mayor. Um, first staff there

[2:38:16] in the middle, that block 11 where the

[2:38:19] backyards are facing each other. We're

[2:38:22] talking about moving the homes closer to

[2:38:26] the front. But what does that look like

[2:38:29] for their backyard? Is that going to be

[2:38:31] some type of entrance on the side of

[2:38:33] everyone's house if they want to take a

[2:38:36] boat to the back? How does that even

[2:38:38] work?

[2:38:40] >> They still got the width. That doesn't

[2:38:43] >> doesn't change anything.

[2:38:44] >> Right. But I'm I'm trying to picture

[2:38:47] what that looks like. If you're the

[2:38:49] house in the middle, you're going to

[2:38:50] drive your boat between the two homes to

[2:38:53] your backyard.

[2:38:54] >> No, there's no house in the middle. The Sorry, let me back.

[2:38:58] >> There's There's only two houses. So,

[2:39:00] everybody comes from a street and goes

[2:39:01] to their backyard.

[2:39:06] » The fronts.

[2:39:07] No,

[2:39:10] >> these backyards are touching each other.

[2:39:12] They're facing each other. So, how does

[2:39:14] this person get their boats in their

[2:39:16] backyard

[2:39:18] >> from the front?

[2:39:19] >> This is the front

[2:39:21] >> through the middle. That's what I meant.

[2:39:22] Between two homes. So, on their side.

[2:39:26] >> Okay. I just wanted to make sure that

[2:39:28] the side setbacks would allow if that's

[2:39:31] the point of this whole thing. I think

[2:39:33] that I think that you your architect

[2:39:36] should re relook at that and see maybe

[2:39:39] you the 10 setback is the minimum

[2:39:41] setback required. Maybe you need there

[2:39:43] to leave 50. So 15 so they can drive to

[2:39:46] the to the backyard

[2:39:47] >> but currently it's only 10.

[2:39:49] >> Well that's your code again.

[2:39:51] >> So if we're talking about the point of

[2:39:52] having boats and and additional

[2:39:55] >> there goes your two hours in front only.

[2:39:57] then that that serves no.

[2:39:59] >> But that's just for those smallest lots

[2:40:01] and people are going to have to

[2:40:02] understand that. But you're you're

[2:40:04] enhancing everyone else's backyard.

[2:40:06] >> No, we're only talking about 10, 11, and

[2:40:09] 12. Or are we talking about the entire

[2:40:11] >> We're talking about the entire

[2:40:12] >> No, I mean the the moving to the front

[2:40:14] we understood to mean

[2:40:16] >> the whole project moving the houses

[2:40:18] >> so that everybody's backyard is bigger,

[2:40:19] right?

[2:40:20] >> Give everybody a bigger backyard.

[2:40:22] >> Yeah. Yeah. Not just for those three

[2:40:25] >> within the confines of the existing

[2:40:28] drawing.

[2:40:30] >> Will you be able to meet with us

[2:40:32] >> between now and and Monday even

[2:40:34] virtually to consider some

[2:40:37] >> just to continue the conversation?

[2:40:38] >> Yeah, of course. Of course.

[2:40:40] >> And the landscaping improvements.

[2:40:42] >> Yeah.

[2:40:42] Okay.

[2:40:44] >> You mean the the fruit trees are Does

[2:40:46] your code prohibit that?

[2:40:47] >> Some codes I know are funky about fruit

[2:40:49] trees.

[2:40:50] >> The fruit trees. And my last well

[2:40:52] >> I just want to make sure we don't

[2:40:53] >> that would be supple supplemental to

[2:40:55] what's already required in the code.

[2:40:56] >> Okay. But it isn't prohibited. You don't

[2:40:58] have a a prohibition on Okay. Good.

[2:41:01] >> On canker trees. C canker trees.

[2:41:03] >> Director with the new item that's coming

[2:41:05] up regarding landscaping and the

[2:41:07] requirements. This project wouldn't fall

[2:41:09] in line.

[2:41:10] >> Doesn't change anything.

[2:41:12] >> Yeah, it already.

[2:41:14] >> Vice Mayor, if I may step in. Thank you.

[2:41:16] Um, these are going to be private ride

[2:41:19] rightways or public roads.

[2:41:21] >> The perimeters are public. The interior

[2:41:23] private publicly accessible. Private

[2:41:27] meaning the CDD will maintain them. So,

[2:41:29] they're 50 foot, but they are designed

[2:41:30] at the same width 50 ft that all roads

[2:41:33] are. It's just that the CDD will

[2:41:36] maintain them. So, the taxpayer and

[2:41:38] homestead won't maintain those. The

[2:41:40] perimeter ones are in the case of 296 is

[2:41:43] the county road. So in effect in simple

[2:41:46] terms, these are private roads.

[2:41:48] >> The the interior, not the exterior.

[2:41:49] >> Yes, the interior. Ungated private

[2:41:52] >> ungated private roads. Yes.

[2:41:54] >> Thank you.

[2:41:57] >> Okay.

[2:41:58] >> Anything further from council? All

[2:42:00] right. So, first item we're going to

[2:42:03] have a motion and a vote on is the

[2:42:06] request for the resoning, which is tab

[2:42:11] 15.

[2:42:13] So moved by Councilman Roth, second by

[2:42:15] Councilwoman Cannibal.

[2:42:17] Have a roll call vote on tab 15 for the

[2:42:19] reszoning.

[2:42:20] >> Councilwoman Abula,

[2:42:22] >> no.

[2:42:23] >> Councilwoman Ksky,

[2:42:24] >> no. Councilman Ross,

[2:42:26] >> yes.

[2:42:27] >> Councilman Fletcher,

[2:42:28] >> yes.

[2:42:29] >> Councilman Cannibal,

[2:42:31] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,

[2:42:32] >> yes.

[2:42:33] >> Mayor Losner,

[2:42:34] >> yes.

[2:42:34] >> The motion carries.

[2:42:36] >> Okay. Now, and you're requesting a def

[2:42:39] 16, 17, and 18. the remaining three

[2:42:42] >> move to defer.

[2:42:44] >> All right. So, we have a motion by

[2:42:45] Councilwoman Avala and I think a second

[2:42:47] from Ksky, Councilwoman Ksky, to defer

[2:42:51] items tab 16, 17, and 18, which I assume

[2:42:55] we'll have to have separate votes on. Is

[2:42:56] that correct, Mr. Attorney?

[2:43:01] » You can do it.

[2:43:03] >> All right. So, we're that's a global

[2:43:05] motion for tab 16, 17, and 18. the

[2:43:08] variance, the site plan and the T plat

[2:43:11] >> to to next month.

[2:43:13] >> Yes. To the date,

[2:43:18] » which is

[2:43:20] >> May 20th.

[2:43:21] Okay.

[2:43:24] All right.

[2:43:26] >> So, roll call vote on the motion to

[2:43:28] defer.

[2:43:30] >> Councilwoman Ksky,

[2:43:32] >> yes. Councilman Cannaval, yes.

[2:43:34] >> Councilwoman Abula, Councilman Raw,

[2:43:36] >> yes.

[2:43:37] >> Councilman Fletcher,

[2:43:38] >> yes.

[2:43:39] >> Vice Mayor Bailey, yes.

[2:43:40] >> Mayor Osma, yes.

[2:43:41] >> The motion carries.

[2:43:43] >> All right. Thank you, Hugo.

[2:43:44] >> We'll see you. We'll speak much sooner,

[2:43:46] but we'll see you next time. Thank you,

[2:43:48] >> Mr.

[2:43:49] Hello.

[2:43:50] >> Hugo.

[2:43:52] >> One thing, when you come next time,

[2:43:55] >> just say we move the houses 15 ft and

[2:43:58] stop it there. You talk too much, man.

[2:44:01] or I lose or I lose your vote. You guys

[2:44:03] heard it. I can't get into a back and

[2:44:05] forth.

[2:44:06] >> Thank you. Thank you.

[2:44:11] >> All right.

[2:44:12] >> Okay. Moving on to tab 19, car number

[2:44:16] 4980.

[2:44:18] This is a resolution of the city of

[2:44:19] Homestead, Florida granting final plat

[2:44:21] approval as requested by Castellanos at

[2:44:23] Coral Way, Inc. for the development of

[2:44:25] an approximately 20,252t

[2:44:28] building.

[2:44:29] >> 12. We did it on the LPA, but we didn't

[2:44:31] do it here. The warehouse, the entity of

[2:44:35] title was to have 12.

[2:44:37] >> No, those are those are both legislative

[2:44:39] items that we're going to take.

[2:44:40] >> Okay, we're going to finish the quasi

[2:44:41] judicial. I'm sorry.

[2:44:44] >> As you were saying,

[2:44:46] >> for the development of an approximately

[2:44:47] 20,252t

[2:44:49] building consisted of a medical center

[2:44:51] and two retail spaces on an

[2:44:53] approximately 1.04 04 acre parcel of

[2:44:55] land located at 304 North Graham Avenue.

[2:44:58] Legally described in exhibit A Friday

[2:44:59] for an effective date.

[2:45:02] >> Thank you. Any questions or comments

[2:45:04] from council? Was a final plat.

[2:45:08] >> Did they move the dead palm tree in the

[2:45:10] front of the building?

[2:45:12] >> They I I can report to that. They they

[2:45:16] remove that uh palm tree, the one that

[2:45:18] was dead,

[2:45:19] >> but they don't have a CO yet. They just

[2:45:21] have a TCO. So before getting the final,

[2:45:25] I put a hold on the CO and the condition

[2:45:27] is that they should replace that tree.

[2:45:30] >> It's fine. Thank you. But because that

[2:45:33] looks horrible in there.

[2:45:34] >> Yes.

[2:45:35] >> All right. Very good. All right. If

[2:45:38] there are no further questions or

[2:45:39] comments from council, do we have a

[2:45:41] motion to approve the final platform?

[2:45:47] Is it 304 North Chrome? 304 North

[2:45:49] Chrome. We have a motion to approve the

[2:45:51] final plat. Moved by Vice Mayor Bailey,

[2:45:54] second by Councilman Cannibal. A roll

[2:45:57] call, please, Madam Clerk.

[2:45:59] >> Councilwoman Avula,

[2:46:01] >> Councilwoman Ksky,

[2:46:02] >> yes.

[2:46:02] >> Councilman Ross.

[2:46:04] >> Councilman Fletcher,

[2:46:05] >> yes.

[2:46:05] >> Councilman Cannibal,

[2:46:06] >> yes.

[2:46:07] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,

[2:46:08] >> yes.

[2:46:08] >> Mayor Losner,

[2:46:09] >> yes.

[2:46:09] >> The motion carries.

[2:46:10] >> So now back to tab 12.

[2:46:12] >> Yes, Mayor. So tab 12 and 13 are going

[2:46:15] to be legislative matters. So we can

[2:46:17] take those.

[2:46:18] >> Okay.

[2:46:19] >> Up now. So tab 12 car number 4951 is an

[2:46:23] ordinance of the city of Homestead

[2:46:24] Florida amending the city code of

[2:46:25] ordinances by amending chapter 25

[2:46:27] subdivision and platting article one and

[2:46:29] general section 25-1 definitions and

[2:46:31] further creating article 16 uniting

[2:46:33] title covenant in l thereof providing

[2:46:35] for severability inclusion of the code

[2:46:37] conflicts and providing for effective

[2:46:38] dates for treaty

[2:46:40] >> and we heard this at the LPA. Are there

[2:46:42] any further questions or comments?

[2:46:44] Council Fletcher approval. Moved by

[2:46:46] Councilman Fletcher. Second

[2:46:48] >> the warehouse.

[2:46:48] >> Second by me.

[2:46:49] >> Second by Councilman Cannibal. Want to

[2:46:52] make your appearance. Marissa.

[2:46:56] » Good evening. Marita Haro, office at 200

[2:46:58] South Piscane Boulevard. Available for

[2:47:00] any questions.

[2:47:04] » There are some.

[2:47:05] >> There are there's several contracts.

[2:47:08] This is one of the cleanup items to be

[2:47:10] able to close on those. Can you can you

[2:47:13] share any insight as to what the

[2:47:15] community can expect in terms of

[2:47:16] businesses coming in?

[2:47:18] >> I don't have any of that. Um I will

[2:47:20] inquire as to that and I'll be back for

[2:47:22] a second reading.

[2:47:22] >> Perfect. Thank you.

[2:47:23] >> Thank you.

[2:47:25] >> All right. We have a motion and a second

[2:47:27] on tab 12. Let's have a roll call vote.

[2:47:32] >> Councilman Fletcher.

[2:47:33] >> Yes.

[2:47:34] >> Councilwoman Ksky.

[2:47:35] >> Yes.

[2:47:36] >> Councilwoman Abilo. Yes.

[2:47:37] >> Councilman Cannibal.

[2:47:38] >> Yes.

[2:47:39] >> Councilman Ross. Vice Mayor Bailey.

[2:47:42] >> Yes.

[2:47:42] >> Mayor Lawson.

[2:47:43] >> Yes.

[2:47:43] >> The motion carries.

[2:47:45] >> And moving on to tab 13.

[2:47:48] >> Yes. Tab 13, car number 4949, is an

[2:47:51] ordinance of the city of Homestead,

[2:47:52] Florida, amending the city code of

[2:47:54] ordinances by amending chapter 29,

[2:47:55] vegetation article one, landscaping by

[2:47:58] establishing the minimum standards and

[2:48:00] landscaping regulations pursuant to the

[2:48:01] city of Homestead landscape manual to

[2:48:04] supplement the Miami Day County

[2:48:05] landscaping standards and requirements.

[2:48:08] Establishing regulations related to

[2:48:10] landscaping and irrigation certification

[2:48:12] and reertification for properties

[2:48:14] developed as multif family residential,

[2:48:16] commercial and/or industrial and

[2:48:18] providing for the enforcement of such

[2:48:20] certification and reertification and

[2:48:22] further amending article 2 tree

[2:48:24] preservation and protection by modifying

[2:48:26] regulations to clarify applicable permit

[2:48:28] fees and tree preservation trust fund

[2:48:30] contribution rates providing for

[2:48:32] severability inclusion in the code

[2:48:34] complex and providing for an effective

[2:48:35] date. is for treating.

[2:48:38] >> Hey, thank you. Question council.

[2:48:40] Councilwoman,

[2:48:41] >> thank you. I appreciate this initiative

[2:48:43] to create uh a comprehensive plan for

[2:48:46] maintaining and and encouraging for our

[2:48:49] um our developments and business

[2:48:52] community to keep up their landscaping

[2:48:54] minimum standards. Um, but I also think

[2:48:56] it's an opportunity for us to consider

[2:48:59] maybe between first reading and second

[2:49:00] reading for me to try to plug in some

[2:49:03] colorful sunflower initiatives within

[2:49:06] our city buildings and with some of the

[2:49:08] landscape designs. And I know that

[2:49:09] they're seasonal and you know there

[2:49:11] could be potentially um some encouraged

[2:49:14] and and um influential verbiage to try

[2:49:19] to promote seasonal changes within the

[2:49:22] development design standards. So if

[2:49:24] there's no objection to anyone on

[2:49:26] sunflowers and how beautiful they are, I

[2:49:28] would just like to have that

[2:49:29] encouragement.

[2:49:34] » Go ahead, council. Pleasure. So again,

[2:49:36] they are a good-looking flower, but the

[2:49:38] problem with sunflowers is once you

[2:49:40] plant one, they continue to blow

[2:49:42] throughout and they spread everywhere.

[2:49:44] Uh that's the only issue I have with

[2:49:46] them because once you plant them, they

[2:49:47] spread everywhere. But other than that,

[2:49:49] they're they're nice looking flowers and

[2:49:51] I like the idea.

[2:49:53] at my my concern would be is this this

[2:49:56] booklet enacting this is with with

[2:49:59] respect to and correct me if I'm wrong

[2:50:02] respect to the installation of permanent

[2:50:04] landscaping.

[2:50:07] We could encourage that as we plant

[2:50:11] downtown when that's

[2:50:13] rebuilt and in other places. But um

[2:50:18] sunflowers are

[2:50:21] seasonal and this

[2:50:22] >> correct you might be very right and I

[2:50:25] might bring it back in a different way

[2:50:26] but I'll just look into some options.

[2:50:28] >> Yeah I mean and I think there's an

[2:50:29] opportunity to do that but not in this

[2:50:32] guide book

[2:50:33] >> maybe not maybe not here there's some

[2:50:37] proposals to create new districts. So

[2:50:39] maybe we can incorporate that when we

[2:50:41] incorporate the new districts and things

[2:50:43] that they're going to put there for

[2:50:45] public benefit and for use of the

[2:50:47] public. Maybe we can incorporate that as

[2:50:51] a seasonal program.

[2:50:52] >> Thank you. I'll explore options. Thank

[2:50:54] you.

[2:50:55] >> You know, it's it's not a bad idea. I

[2:50:57] just don't know if it's properly

[2:50:58] included here in the permanent

[2:51:00] landscaping guide. Okay. So, Council

[2:51:04] Fletcher, you've lived here a long time.

[2:51:07] Do you remember commercially grown

[2:51:09] sunflowers or were they just pretty much

[2:51:11] cover crops,

[2:51:12] >> isolated cover?

[2:51:13] >> Cover crops for the most part other than

[2:51:15] Robert is here.

[2:51:17] >> Yeah, it's just not not as a commercial

[2:51:19] crop but a

[2:51:21] >> man.

[2:51:23] >> Dr. Fishman used to grow them 10, 20, 30

[2:51:26] acres. I used to ensure them.

[2:51:27] >> Where's that?

[2:51:28] >> Dr. Fishman, he was a a local farmer. It

[2:51:31] was a hobby, but it was his son grew

[2:51:34] sunflowers for commercial cut flowers.

[2:51:38] >> And I am I am aware of uh existing

[2:51:41] farmers, not in the city of Homestead,

[2:51:43] but local nearby that still grow

[2:51:45] sunflowers. Thank you.

[2:51:47] >> I'm just always concerned that we're

[2:51:48] going to perpetuate a fiction. You know,

[2:51:52] uh tomatoes were not a fiction. Mangoes

[2:51:54] were not a fiction. Avocados are not a

[2:51:57] fiction. Vice Mayor B,

[2:51:59] >> I just wanted to ask real quick, this is

[2:52:01] the item that I was asking doesn't apply

[2:52:04] to the last discussion item we had, the

[2:52:07] LAR project.

[2:52:09] >> This would standards,

[2:52:11] >> right? So that's what I meant is they

[2:52:13] would fall in line with this where the

[2:52:15] inspection would happen 12 months after.

[2:52:18] Okay, that's what I wanted clarity on.

[2:52:21] >> Okay. And I'm growing sunflowers in my

[2:52:23] kitchen. I'll send you pictures when

[2:52:24] they start blooming.

[2:52:27] You have to put them on the floor.

[2:52:28] They're going to get so tall.

[2:52:29] >> I have a hydroponic uh power thing. Yes.

[2:52:32] >> Okay. Neat.

[2:52:34] >> All right. Did we vote on the landscape

[2:52:37] guide?

[2:52:38] >> No. Okay. Do we have a motion and a

[2:52:41] second on the landscape guide?

[2:52:43] >> Moved by Councilwoman Avala, second by

[2:52:45] Councilman Cannibal. Let's have a roll

[2:52:47] call on the landscape guide.

[2:52:50] >> Councilman Ross.

[2:52:51] >> Yes.

[2:52:52] >> Councilwoman Ksky.

[2:52:54] >> Yes. Councilman Cannibal,

[2:52:55] >> yes.

[2:52:56] >> Councilwoman Abula,

[2:52:57] >> yes.

[2:52:58] >> Councilman Fletcher,

[2:52:59] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,

[2:53:01] >> Mayor Lawson,

[2:53:02] >> yes.

[2:53:03] >> Motion carries.

[2:53:04] >> And that takes us to tab 14.

[2:53:12] » Yes. Tab 14, car number 4982 is an

[2:53:16] ordinance of the city of Homestead,

[2:53:17] Florida, amending the city code of

[2:53:18] ordinances by amending chapter 16, local

[2:53:20] business taxes and business regulations,

[2:53:23] creating article 7, certificate of use,

[2:53:26] providing for definitions, application

[2:53:27] procedures, fees, regulation, denial,

[2:53:30] revocation and suspension of certificate

[2:53:31] of use, providing conflict severability

[2:53:33] and providing for an effective date.

[2:53:35] This is first reading.

[2:53:37] >> Thank you, Madam Director.

[2:53:39] Yes, this is the certificate of use that

[2:53:42] we are making official a process that we

[2:53:44] already has have when a new application

[2:53:46] comes. We review first if they are

[2:53:49] approvable, if they are allowed in that

[2:53:52] zoning district and then we check with

[2:53:54] the building department if the use is

[2:53:56] established or not and if it's not they

[2:53:59] need a change of use. So in this way

[2:54:02] before applying to the BTR the applicant

[2:54:04] will have to obtain the certificate of

[2:54:06] use and this after that it will be very

[2:54:09] easy to go and pay for the business tax

[2:54:11] receipt and then it lasts forever if the

[2:54:14] business is the same is the same

[2:54:16] ownership. If they change they need to

[2:54:19] come and they need to ask for a new

[2:54:21] certificate of use but that will this

[2:54:23] will give clarity and the person that is

[2:54:26] renting a a space or that is moving to a

[2:54:29] Once they have that business

[2:54:31] established, that certificate of use

[2:54:34] will clearly point to the what is

[2:54:36] allowed there.

[2:54:38] >> Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that.

[2:54:40] >> Well, let's Okay, go ahead. We'll get it

[2:54:43] on the table. Moved by Councilman

[2:54:44] Cannibal, second by Councilman Roth. So,

[2:54:47] I'll open the floor to questions and

[2:54:48] comments on this item.

[2:54:51] >> Council Fletcher.

[2:54:53] >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh although I

[2:54:55] think something like this is needed, I

[2:54:56] think we need to have a little more

[2:54:58] detail as to what the overall impact's

[2:55:01] going to be. I would request that we

[2:55:03] defer this to a to a special call or a

[2:55:05] workshop to uh understand what the

[2:55:08] impacts could be because I think it's

[2:55:10] going to be quite significant to someone

[2:55:12] who may be a a small office and they decide to add an additional person

[2:55:17] to their office that could uh possibly

[2:55:19] affect costs.

[2:55:21] >> That that doesn't apply. For example, if

[2:55:23] you call a medical office and you have

[2:55:26] 15 doctors and then you're going to

[2:55:27] change and have 17, you just come, you

[2:55:29] add the doctors, but that doesn't change

[2:55:32] the use of the business. It's just

[2:55:34] adding one more professional to to the

[2:55:36] business.

[2:55:37] >> Councilman, if I may,

[2:55:39] >> please.

[2:55:39] >> Thank you. And not to um um

[2:55:44] discredit the work that's been done by

[2:55:45] the development services department and

[2:55:47] staff in general, but I did have similar

[2:55:48] concerns. And so I'll move to defer this

[2:55:50] item.

[2:55:55] Second it

[2:55:57] >> with the with the we need to have a

[2:56:00] workshop I think to discuss this.

[2:56:04] >> Yeah. you know, and and I I had asked a

[2:56:06] lot of these questions, some probably

[2:56:07] some of the same questions you had on my one-on-one, and I was I was prepared

[2:56:12] to talk about some of the questions and

[2:56:13] concerns and and amendments that I'd

[2:56:15] like to see just and I'll go ahead and

[2:56:16] put them out there for, you know, the

[2:56:18] future discussion was that I don't know

[2:56:20] that a change in ownership or business

[2:56:22] name should trigger the requirement of a

[2:56:26] CU

[2:56:27] that take that off the table, but um

[2:56:33] with a caveat Because we see a lot a lot

[2:56:35] of these issues that if in the event of

[2:56:39] a change of name or ownership, we might

[2:56:43] want to leave the opportunity open to

[2:56:45] bring signage in comp into compliance

[2:56:48] and landscaping into compliance. But

[2:56:50] beyond that, to to open up a property

[2:56:54] just by virtue of someone selling their

[2:56:57] business or bringing in a partner and

[2:56:59] changing their name, I don't know that would would merit uh having to go

[2:57:04] through the uh certificate of use uh

[2:57:07] process. Just those were some of the

[2:57:09] thoughts I had. Um you know that we can

[2:57:12] address it you know next reading or

[2:57:14] workshop what whatever that may uh may

[2:57:17] be. You know it's an interesting balance

[2:57:19] between We can't allow buildings that

[2:57:22] clearly have violations to continue

[2:57:25] forever, but we want to be respectful of

[2:57:28] businesses who

[2:57:30] are continuing. Um, it's going to be a

[2:57:34] real educational process though, I

[2:57:36] think, that we're going to have to to be

[2:57:38] very attuned to with respect to realtors

[2:57:40] and commercial landlords because they're

[2:57:43] the ones who are going to bear some of

[2:57:44] the brunt and we don't want folks

[2:57:46] signing a lease and putting down real

[2:57:49] money and being obligated for real money

[2:57:51] and getting into a monthsl long process

[2:57:54] either. So, if we could schedule a uh a

[2:57:57] workshop post haste, that would be a uh

[2:58:00] a good thing. So, let's have a roll call

[2:58:02] on the motion to defer. Yes, council.

[2:58:04] I'm sorry.

[2:58:04] >> Let me Yeah, because I had some

[2:58:05] concerns, too.

[2:58:06] >> Um, in reference that, but I think what

[2:58:08] this does is kind of speeds up the

[2:58:09] process so that they don't go to one

[2:58:11] department and get an approval, but go

[2:58:13] to the next department and they don't

[2:58:15] get an approval because of zoning or

[2:58:16] because of change of use. And uh there's

[2:58:19] also some safety

[2:58:22] um things that kick in. As soon as

[2:58:24] there's a a change of ownership when you

[2:58:28] come for your uh your uh business

[2:58:31] license, you automatically trigger

[2:58:33] safety inspections.

[2:58:35] >> So they have to come and they have to

[2:58:36] look at the electrical and the HVAC, you

[2:58:39] know, all the all the systems in the

[2:58:41] building which then trigger other

[2:58:43] things. they will trigger other things

[2:58:46] because as you said some of these

[2:58:47] buildings that are dilapitated or or

[2:58:49] that haven't been maintained over you

[2:58:51] know 20 40 50 years whatever um they get

[2:58:55] caught up in all that stuff. So, um, and

[2:58:57] my other thing was, and you mentioned

[2:58:58] real estate agents and and commercial

[2:59:01] property owners, um,

[2:59:05] when I had my one-on- ones, the the the

[2:59:07] biggest problem is the unsuspecting

[2:59:11] potential tenant,

[2:59:13] >> signs a lease,

[2:59:15] and then goes through the process. And I couldn't figure out and we talked

[2:59:21] about it a little bit in in in the

[2:59:22] oneonone is how do we change that where

[2:59:25] it becomes the responsibility

[2:59:27] of a property owner or a professional

[2:59:31] real estate agent that needs to disclose

[2:59:34] that there may be these challenges in

[2:59:37] the future where a change of use may be

[2:59:40] needed and that's not a one-mon process

[2:59:43] that's a six-month process

[2:59:45] >> at that. So there are a lot of things

[2:59:47] that we we can can speed up, but I think

[2:59:51] there's also things we can't change. And

[2:59:52] I think the workshop will be very

[2:59:54] enlightening to a lot of us that uh that

[2:59:57] some of most of us that are familiar

[2:59:59] with it know it, but those that aren't

[3:00:00] will learn a great deal about this whole

[3:00:03] process. So I just want to put that on

[3:00:06] there so we can talk about those things

[3:00:07] in uh whatever we do next, workshop or

[3:00:10] special call, whatever it is.

[3:00:12] >> Yes, Councilwoman. And to Councilman

[3:00:14] Roth's point, I mean, I have advocated

[3:00:15] for a long time for relationship

[3:00:18] building between the city of Homestead

[3:00:20] and our partners in the community, which

[3:00:22] include real estate professionals. And

[3:00:24] perhaps we should be hosting workshops,

[3:00:26] educational sessions in their arena, are

[3:00:30] renting out the seminal theater and

[3:00:31] inviting, you know, realtors to come and

[3:00:34] listen. You know, what is it like to go

[3:00:37] through the CU process? I mean, the

[3:00:38] South Day Chamber of Commerce do does

[3:00:40] this on a regular basis, and we're not

[3:00:44] utilizing these tools to educate the

[3:00:46] public to make our lives easier. And

[3:00:49] that's much simpler in my mind and will

[3:00:52] be received um you know, much better

[3:00:55] than a violation, an upset client, a

[3:00:57] lease gone wrong. And that just

[3:00:59] perpetuates more and more frustration

[3:01:01] and aggravation. And these are not new

[3:01:04] ideas that we've talked about. It just

[3:01:05] needs action and it needs to be rolled

[3:01:07] out. Thank you.

[3:01:08] >> Right. Thank you.

[3:01:09] >> Same thing goes for transferring

[3:01:11] utilities and that process and the the

[3:01:13] time it takes to close an account, open

[3:01:14] a new account, then you have a a closing

[3:01:17] happy closing date and they're all

[3:01:18] moving in and there's no utilities and

[3:01:20] they got to wait three days and then all

[3:01:21] the deposit. Oh, there was an

[3:01:22] outstanding bill till the seller gets

[3:01:24] that paid. I mean, this is the chaos

[3:01:26] that happens frequently and everyone

[3:01:30] blames the city of Homestead. This never

[3:01:32] happens with this never happens with

[3:01:34] Miami date county. But you know what are

[3:01:37] we doing about it? So sorry broken

[3:01:39] record. Turning it off.

[3:01:40] >> So let's vote on the motion to defer.

[3:01:44] >> Councilwoman Aula.

[3:01:46] >> Yes.

[3:01:46] >> Councilman Ross.

[3:01:47] >> Councilwoman Ksky.

[3:01:49] >> Yes.

[3:01:49] >> Councilman Cannibal.

[3:01:50] >> Yes.

[3:01:51] >> Councilman Fletcher.

[3:01:52] >> Yes.

[3:01:52] >> Vice Mayor Bailey.

[3:01:53] >> Yes.

[3:01:54] >> Mayor Losner.

[3:01:54] >> Yes.

[3:01:55] >> The motion carries.

[3:01:57] >> So that should take us to

[3:02:00] >> 20.

[3:02:04] Tab 20 is the first reading of an

[3:02:05] ordinance of the city of Homestead,

[3:02:07] Florida, amending the budget for the

[3:02:08] general fund for the fiscal year

[3:02:09] beginning October 1, 2025 and ending

[3:02:11] September 30th, 2026 by increasing the

[3:02:14] total budgeted revenues and expenditures

[3:02:15] by $50,000, providing for severability

[3:02:18] and an effective date.

[3:02:21] >> Right. This is just to move the the the

[3:02:23] match for a grant we approved months

[3:02:26] ago.

[3:02:26] >> So, yeah, he moved it. I'm seconding it.

[3:02:28] >> All right.

[3:02:29] >> I would like more apple blossoms in

[3:02:31] district five.

[3:02:33] They'll die.

[3:02:34] >> Apple blossom trees will die.

[3:02:36] >> They're all over the Northwest.

[3:02:38] >> Am I talking about the right tree?

[3:02:40] >> So,

[3:02:40] >> we might know by different names.

[3:02:42] >> Oh, maybe the orchid trees. Those are be

[3:02:44] some people call them apple blossoms.

[3:02:49] » Give us the opportunity to check the

[3:02:51] application for the grants. Usually they

[3:02:53] will ask you to specify the tree species

[3:02:56] before.

[3:02:56] >> No, I'm just putting it on the record

[3:02:58] that if there's an opportunity, please, please, more

[3:03:02] >> flowerbearing trees. Thank you.

[3:03:04] >> Your district's too affluent. Remember

[3:03:06] those grant applications we approved

[3:03:08] pretty much wipe you out because you're

[3:03:11] not as poor as the rest of

[3:03:13] >> No, District 5 in its entirety is within

[3:03:15] the CDBG block.

[3:03:17] >> Let me remind you, please,

[3:03:18] >> mayor and council, let's put some

[3:03:20] context to this. This item is for a tree

[3:03:23] sensors.

[3:03:24] >> I understand for the grants for trees

[3:03:26] will consider your recommendation.

[3:03:28] >> Right.

[3:03:28] >> Yes. Thank you. I am taking the

[3:03:29] opportunity to vocalize.

[3:03:31] >> Thank you.

[3:03:34] >> Not until I get my royal palms back on

[3:03:36] Chrome Avenue that I've been bitching

[3:03:38] about for four years.

[3:03:41] >> That the DOT killed when they widened

[3:03:43] Chrome Avenue.

[3:03:45] >> Yes, I said it.

[3:03:48] >> That's a That was a Rotary project. Yes.

[3:03:51] Roll call on the tree census grant.

[3:03:54] >> Councilman Fletcher.

[3:03:56] >> Councilwoman Abula.

[3:03:58] >> Councilman Cannibal.

[3:03:59] >> Yes.

[3:03:59] >> Councilman Ra.

[3:04:00] >> Councilwoman Ksky.

[3:04:02] >> Yes.

[3:04:02] >> Vice Mayor Bailey.

[3:04:04] >> Yes.

[3:04:04] >> Mayor Lawson.

[3:04:06] >> Yes.

[3:04:07] >> I'm telling the vice mayor is trying to

[3:04:09] vote for Ksky.

[3:04:12] » Okay.

[3:04:17] 21

[3:04:19] >> 21 is the first reading of an ordinance

[3:04:20] of the city of Homestead, Florida,

[3:04:21] amending the city code of ordinances by

[3:04:23] amending chapter 20 parks and recreation

[3:04:25] to repeal and replace existing

[3:04:26] regulations related to fees levied for

[3:04:28] the use of park facilities, establishing

[3:04:30] new schedule of fees for the use of city

[3:04:32] facilities, providing for conflicts,

[3:04:33] providing for severability, and

[3:04:35] providing for an effective date.

[3:04:37] >> I move to reject.

[3:04:40] Sorry,

[3:04:42] >> just for the sake of time, I don't agree

[3:04:44] in codifying the park fees and I think

[3:04:46] that this is something best kept in the

[3:04:48] department per purview and I don't see a

[3:04:51] reason why we should re remove the

[3:04:54] ability for the park director to um

[3:04:58] bring to us for council consideration

[3:05:01] any changes throughout the year as

[3:05:02] needed. I'm not sure why we have to

[3:05:03] codify the park fees.

[3:05:08] Okay. Anyone else?

[3:05:11] All right. So, my thought on that would

[3:05:13] be is we need to have consistency.

[3:05:15] Everyone needs to understand what their

[3:05:17] fee is and there can be no claims of

[3:05:19] favoritism or corruption or whatever you

[3:05:22] want to call it that no matter who you

[3:05:24] are, who you know, you walk in the door

[3:05:26] and and you pay the fee and they can be

[3:05:29] amended by council from from time to

[3:05:32] time. We we've been finding for years

[3:05:34] that we do not have enough policy and

[3:05:36] procedure in place.

[3:05:40] Yes, Councilwoman Bailey, Vice Mayor

[3:05:42] Bailey, I'm sorry.

[3:05:43] >> I think um I think the main reason that

[3:05:46] this is needed now more than ever is um

[3:05:50] the amount of times that fees were waved

[3:05:52] in the past. Um I know that I was a a

[3:05:55] big part of that. Um but to be able to

[3:06:00] advertise um nonprofits. Um, and just

[3:06:05] the different the different parks and

[3:06:07] the differences. Um, some are higher,

[3:06:10] some are um in higher

[3:06:14] requ they're requested more. Um, FICO

[3:06:17] Williams is also just booked all the

[3:06:20] time now. Um, so just to be able to have

[3:06:22] that a little clearer out there for the

[3:06:24] public for them to be able to make their

[3:06:26] plans. We're booking things months and months in advance. So just

[3:06:31] for that for that uh sake I think that

[3:06:34] it is um it is needed.

[3:06:37] >> Thank you vice mayor.

[3:06:38] >> Anyone else?

[3:06:39] >> Is there an is there any changes to the briefing that I received because

[3:06:43] there was no section for the wave

[3:06:46] considering the nonprofit.

[3:06:48] That'll So there is a a separate

[3:06:50] nonprofit price, but the the fee waiver

[3:06:53] will still stand as one of us putting it

[3:06:55] under our item and all of council voting

[3:06:59] on splitting it or us using our

[3:07:01] discretionary funds, but it wouldn't

[3:07:03] just go into the black hole of of waving

[3:07:05] the fees where it just comes out of the

[3:07:07] park's budget.

[3:07:10] >> Is that correct?

[3:07:12] >> Would you like to move this item?

[3:07:17] Okay. You didn't have a second anyway, I

[3:07:19] don't think. Okay. So, do we have a

[3:07:22] motion to adopt this item? Moved by

[3:07:25] Councilman Roth, seconded by Vice Mayor

[3:07:28] Bailey.

[3:07:30] >> Roll call, please. Madam clerk.

[3:07:32] >> Councilwoman Appla.

[3:07:36] » Yes.

[3:07:37] >> Councilman Fletcher.

[3:07:39] >> Yes.

[3:07:39] >> Councilman Roth.

[3:07:40] >> Yes.

[3:07:41] >> Councilwoman Ksky.

[3:07:42] >> Yes.

[3:07:43] >> Councilman Cannibal.

[3:07:44] >> Yes. Vice Mayor Bailey. Yes.

[3:07:46] >> Mayor Losner.

[3:07:47] >> Yes.

[3:07:47] >> The motion carries.

[3:07:48] >> Thank you. So that would take us to tab

[3:07:52] 202

[3:07:53] >> two.

[3:07:54] >> Tab 22 is the first reading of an

[3:07:56] ordinance of the city of Homestead,

[3:07:57] Florida amending chapter 7, article 1,

[3:07:59] section 7.5 of the city code entitled

[3:08:02] Special Master System Creative

[3:08:04] Qualifications Terms removal to revise

[3:08:05] the qualifications and compensation

[3:08:07] structure for special masters providing

[3:08:09] for inclusion in the code providing for

[3:08:10] severability providing for conflicts and

[3:08:12] providing for an effective date.

[3:08:15] Thank you sir. Yes vice mayor.

[3:08:17] >> I'll move it with a quick comment. If

[3:08:19] any of you have never been to one of the

[3:08:20] special mast's meetings involving code.

[3:08:24] Okay. So these

[3:08:27] >> these volunteers work very hard and I

[3:08:29] know it's tough for the city. So I think

[3:08:32] this is a good a good move in the right

[3:08:34] direction. So

[3:08:35] >> and these these fees haven't been

[3:08:36] adjusted for years.

[3:08:38] >> Second. Okay. It's been moved by vice

[3:08:39] mayor seconded by cannibal.

[3:08:42] >> I just I do have Yes. Thank you. I

[3:08:44] agree. We need to have the extra

[3:08:46] resource. I just Is there a way to or

[3:08:48] maybe I can get clarification. Is there

[3:08:50] still an opportunity to leave the opport

[3:08:52] there still a way to leave the

[3:08:53] opportunity for a homestead resident to

[3:08:55] serve who wants to serve so that the

[3:08:57] position still is available? Because I

[3:09:00] believe that the reason why this is

[3:09:01] happening is because it's hard to fill.

[3:09:02] It's hard to get the volunteers to be

[3:09:04] able to do it. But if we

[3:09:07] exclude them 100%,

[3:09:09] then you're just taking away their

[3:09:10] opportunity to serve the community in

[3:09:12] that capacity.

[3:09:14] Unless we really don't want any.

[3:09:17] >> No. Okay. All right.

[3:09:18] >> Councilwoman, I think the section 7-5

[3:09:22] says, "Preference shall be given to

[3:09:24] residents of the city of Homestead

[3:09:30] » with the qualification

[3:09:31] >> with the within the category.

[3:09:33] >> Yeah.

[3:09:33] >> Okay. Thank you for the clarification.

[3:09:36] Mayor also an additional clarification

[3:09:38] on 7-5 C

[3:09:41] and A read together. The appointment for

[3:09:44] special masters shall be met by the city

[3:09:46] council with recommendation from the

[3:09:48] administration. So we're going to make a

[3:09:50] tweak between first and second reading.

[3:09:51] >> Okay.

[3:09:53] >> Good. Thank you. All right. So I believe

[3:09:54] we had a motion in a second on

[3:09:57] >> this item. So let's have a roll call

[3:09:59] vote.

[3:09:59] >> Councilwoman Ksky.

[3:10:01] >> Yes.

[3:10:01] >> Council member Ra.

[3:10:02] >> Yes.

[3:10:03] >> Councilwoman Abulu. Yes. Councilman

[3:10:05] Cannibal.

[3:10:05] >> Yes.

[3:10:06] >> Councilman Fletcher.

[3:10:07] >> Yes.

[3:10:07] >> Vice Mayor Bailey.

[3:10:08] >> Mayor Lawson.

[3:10:09] >> Yes.

[3:10:10] >> The motion carries.

[3:10:11] >> Now for the really hard one. Tab 23.

[3:10:15] Better extend the meeting to 10.

[3:10:20] Tab 23 is

[3:10:24] a resolution of the city council of the

[3:10:26] city of Homestead, Florida, approving

[3:10:27] first amendment to the addendum

[3:10:28] increasing the scope of work for the

[3:10:29] procurement and installation of epoxy

[3:10:31] flooring at Harrisfield Park by Gel

[3:10:34] Unlimited DBA Miracle Method of Miami

[3:10:36] North in the amount not to exceed

[3:10:38] $177,910

[3:10:41] plus a city manner contingency allowance

[3:10:43] of up to 10% for the total project cost

[3:10:45] utilizing the interlocal purchasing

[3:10:47] system here and after refer virtuous

[3:10:49] tips RCSP2410401

[3:10:54] agreement exempting the purchase from

[3:10:56] competitive bidding pursuant to section

[3:10:57] 2-411.185

[3:11:00] of the city code authorizing the city

[3:11:01] manager to execute all necessary

[3:11:03] documents providing for implementation

[3:11:04] providing for an effective date.

[3:11:07] >> Thank you. Um if you could bring the

[3:11:09] samples back up I think councilwoman

[3:11:10] Aava needs to take another peek at them.

[3:11:15] » Mr. Mayor, if I may.

[3:11:16] >> Which one is the top one you like?

[3:11:18] That's what I want to know.

[3:11:19] >> I'm not telling you.

[3:11:22] >> Just circulate them down.

[3:11:23] >> Mr. Mayor, if I may.

[3:11:24] >> Yes. Uh, again, I don't want to get into

[3:11:26] the color picking if you I'm going to

[3:11:29] take number four. It's It's pretty close

[3:11:31] to what current is currently there.

[3:11:34] >> Yes.

[3:11:35] >> What's the name? What's the name on

[3:11:36] number four?

[3:11:37] >> But here or there. Just remember this is

[3:11:38] a this is a temporary fix.

[3:11:42] 13.

[3:11:42] >> I know, but it's still temporary for if

[3:11:44] we reimagine Harrisfield in the next few

[3:11:47] years, the pavilion could be relocated

[3:11:50] possibly. So, this could be temporary in

[3:11:52] nature. I'm good. So, I I I will defer

[3:11:55] to my colleagues, but

[3:11:58] >> can we meet in the middle? Oops. Sorry.

[3:12:03] >> Can we meet in the middle and add a

[3:12:04] little brown so it ties into all the

[3:12:06] wood? That is what I was bringing up

[3:12:09] last time. There were no brown options.

[3:12:11] Get at it.

[3:12:12] >> Just a little brown will tie in with the

[3:12:14] wood.

[3:12:15] >> People try and walk up the walls.

[3:12:25] » Whatever Vice Mayor Bailey wants, I will agree with.

[3:12:28] >> No. No. Don't put that pressure on me.

[3:12:33] » Yeah.

[3:12:43] Firebrick. Is that what that is?

[3:12:45] >> Do you like this one?

[3:12:46] >> I think it meets in the middle. It goes

[3:12:48] with the wood.

[3:12:50] >> And gray is too trendy and doesn't go

[3:12:52] with the wood.

[3:12:57] » You're right. Comment from the vice

[3:12:59] mayor.

[3:13:00] >> I'm good with that one.

[3:13:02] >> There's there's public for the

[3:13:04] photographer. Right. Okay.

[3:13:07] We we may have a cons is brickyard.

[3:13:12] >> That's fine. But I have a question

[3:13:14] though.

[3:13:15] >> Not about the color.

[3:13:16] >> Be be it be it noted that Councilman

[3:13:18] Fletcher could care less.

[3:13:28] » I just I just have a question. I'm

[3:13:30] sorry. Not about the color, but it says

[3:13:32] here 177,910

[3:13:34] in the uh what what Matt read and it

[3:13:37] says here 137280. So

[3:13:40] >> I think I like this.

[3:13:41] >> Is there a problem with that? I don't

[3:13:44] know.

[3:13:47] >> I believe that might have been a typo.

[3:13:49] Um the actual proposal is 124,800

[3:13:53] and then the 10% uh contingency is

[3:13:56] another 12,000. So it's 137. That's with

[3:13:59] contingency and everything. It's only

[3:14:00] going to be 124

[3:14:02] >> in the 170 something. What is that?

[3:14:05] >> That looks like there must have been a

[3:14:06] typo when they a mistake when they type

[3:14:08] the

[3:14:09] >> it's going to be then 13.

[3:14:11] >> So 124,000.

[3:14:13] >> Okay.

[3:14:14] >> Plus 10% of the 137. That's just in

[3:14:17] case.

[3:14:18] >> Mayor, if I may.

[3:14:18] >> Yes. I think we got the color picked up,

[3:14:20] but in terms of the proposal and the

[3:14:22] pricing, um did we did we go out to

[3:14:25] multiple vendors or how did we get to

[3:14:27] this um vendor?

[3:14:29] >> So, at this at this time, this was done

[3:14:31] via piggybacking um agreement. This

[3:14:33] vendor did another job for us in the

[3:14:35] past and um had a very good warranty and

[3:14:38] the product has has, you know, stood the

[3:14:41] test of time there.

[3:14:43] >> Okay. because their their pricing is

[3:14:45] saying $135 an hour to conduct and it's

[3:14:48] going to take $650 for them to finish

[3:14:50] and that's what they put in the in the

[3:14:51] pocket. So,

[3:14:52] >> it's roughly 11 $11.35 per square foot

[3:14:55] is what it came down to be.

[3:14:58] >> Okay.

[3:14:59] >> Just a clarification on the price. The

[3:15:00] reason it was you jumped from the 120 to

[3:15:03] 1779 contingency 910. No, it's not the

[3:15:05] contingency. It's because this is an

[3:15:07] amendment to the existing agreement and

[3:15:08] the original the original contract price

[3:15:10] was $53,110

[3:15:13] with an amendment of $124

[3:15:15] um800. The 10% contingency does not go

[3:15:18] into the contract. That authorizes the

[3:15:20] manager to make further amendments up to

[3:15:22] that amount. That is how you got to the

[3:15:24] 177910.

[3:15:27] >> That's where

[3:15:29] >> because they did they had already done

[3:15:31] the Thank you for reminding me the

[3:15:32] kitchen and the bathrooms. That was the

[3:15:34] original. Yeah.

[3:15:40] » But but am I

[3:15:42] >> Pedro? Are you comfortable with that

[3:15:44] price? And and I don't think I I know

[3:15:47] you said they Yeah, they have a good

[3:15:48] warranty and they've done other work for

[3:15:50] us, but did we get any other proposals?

[3:15:52] >> No, we didn't.

[3:15:53] >> For this particular project, we did not.

[3:15:55] Um, I did get a proposal for a smaller

[3:15:57] project that was $9,000 from them and we

[3:16:02] got a second vendor that was like

[3:16:04] $10,800. So on on smaller projects,

[3:16:06] we've tested them against other vendors,

[3:16:10] >> but at this time for this one, we did

[3:16:11] not.

[3:16:12] >> And the warranty is li

[3:16:18] » I wish we could get lifetime.

[3:16:21] Are you able to negotiate a longer

[3:16:22] maintenance package or like do we have

[3:16:25] anyone in house that can fix epoxy

[3:16:26] flooring if there's a a peel after one

[3:16:30] year all the dancing and the boots and

[3:16:31] the that that pavilion gets used. So I

[3:16:34] mean we need to probably look at a

[3:16:35] maintenance plan.

[3:16:37] >> Oh, wasn't that the finish that was in

[3:16:39] the the original bathroom edition and

[3:16:42] that lasted several years?

[3:16:44] >> Yeah. On on average

[3:16:45] >> that's new now, but that was the prior

[3:16:48] finish.

[3:16:48] >> Yeah. On average, you can get about

[3:16:50] eight to 10 8 to 10 years on on this

[3:16:53] kind of surfacing. It's similar to the

[3:16:55] court surfacing, you know, we put on the

[3:16:56] basketball courts and tennis courts. You

[3:16:58] get anywhere from around seven to 10

[3:17:00] years.

[3:17:01] >> I trust you, Pedro. Thank you.

[3:17:03] >> I'm ready to move on.

[3:17:04] >> All right. Does anybody move this item?

[3:17:07] >> Moved by Cannibal. Second by Aval.

[3:17:10] >> I'm sorry.

[3:17:11] >> The color that uh the brown mix

[3:17:13] >> fire brick, I think. What was it?

[3:17:14] >> Fire brick.

[3:17:15] >> Brickyard.

[3:17:16] It sounds like a great

[3:17:17] restaurant coming soon.

[3:17:19] >> Yeah.

[3:17:20] >> Well, speaking of restaurants, that's

[3:17:21] what they have in the floors at Sak

[3:17:22] Pass.

[3:17:24] >> That's right.

[3:17:24] >> Our new downtown gray sock has that.

[3:17:27] >> They have the same floor.

[3:17:28] >> That's the first thing we noticed when

[3:17:30] we went in. That's the That's the uh

[3:17:32] finish we've been asked to do at

[3:17:34] Harrisfield.

[3:17:35] >> Okay. So, we have a motion and a second

[3:17:37] on tab 23. We'll have a roll call. Madam

[3:17:41] clerk,

[3:17:42] >> Councilman Campbell,

[3:17:44] >> yes.

[3:17:44] >> Councilman Fletcher,

[3:17:45] >> yes. Councilman Ross.

[3:17:47] >> Councilwoman Ksky,

[3:17:49] >> yes.

[3:17:49] >> Councilwoman Abula,

[3:17:50] >> yes.

[3:17:51] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,

[3:17:52] >> yes.

[3:17:52] >> Mayor Losner,

[3:17:53] >> yes.

[3:17:53] >> The motion car.

[3:17:55] >> Okay. So, Mr. Manager, for tabs 24 and

[3:17:58] 25, is there anything new or anything

[3:18:02] that needs to be said that was not said

[3:18:04] at our last presentation?

[3:18:06] >> So, Mr. Mayor and Council, there are

[3:18:08] just minor change on the actual

[3:18:11] transportation master plan. The previous

[3:18:14] version had a date of April 2025.

[3:18:19] So in order to reflect, we had a date of

[3:18:22] February 202

[3:18:25] because we approving this today. We

[3:18:27] changed the date to April of 2026.

[3:18:33] And I think also there's a cross-section

[3:18:35] that we had a range of 50 to 80 ft wide.

[3:18:39] We standardize it to make a uniform for

[3:18:40] everybody to be 80 ft. Those are the two

[3:18:43] minor changes.

[3:18:45] >> Mayor Fe.

[3:18:46] >> Yes.

[3:18:47] >> Thank you. Are the um two intersections

[3:18:49] in the Keysgate um district, the one off

[3:18:52] of Kingman and North Gate Road and

[3:18:56] Kingman and uh I think it's Palm.

[3:18:59] >> No, no, those cross sections reference

[3:19:01] arterial roads. Those are not local

[3:19:03] roads. Those ones were trying to widen

[3:19:05] to four lanes.

[3:19:06] >> I'm referring to the um traffic light

[3:19:09] signal improvements. So adding of the

[3:19:11] left turn signals and the the traffic uh reduction or speed

[3:19:16] reduction

[3:19:17] >> um

[3:19:18] >> is that is that your recent ask?

[3:19:20] >> Yes.

[3:19:21] >> I provided you with a response

[3:19:23] >> I didn't see the response yet but is it

[3:19:24] in the plan in our transportation

[3:19:26] >> master transportation master plan? Yeah.

[3:19:29] >> Okay. Thank you.

[3:19:29] >> A couple of those locations are in

[3:19:31] construction already.

[3:19:32] >> Thank you. And for district five my

[3:19:33] district the traffic light at Waterstone

[3:19:35] Boulevard and 137th Avenue. Can you

[3:19:37] speak to that and the efforts please?

[3:19:40] Uh I need to see

[3:19:41] >> in the master plan there's been some

[3:19:42] >> everything that we're doing now that

[3:19:44] we've submitted to the county are all

[3:19:46] extracted from the transportation master

[3:19:48] plan.

[3:19:50] >> Hey okay

[3:19:53] my recollection it was in there the

[3:19:55] waterstone way.

[3:19:57] >> Yeah.

[3:20:01] » Okay. So so we have a motion on

[3:20:04] >> we have a motion to second on tab 24.

[3:20:07] >> Moved by Avala. Second.

[3:20:09] >> Second by Cannibal for adoption of the

[3:20:11] master transportation master plan. Any

[3:20:13] further?

[3:20:14] >> Nope.

[3:20:15] >> Roll call. Have

[3:20:17] >> a

[3:20:18] >> Councilman Cannibal?

[3:20:19] >> Yes.

[3:20:19] >> Councilman Roth?

[3:20:20] >> Yes.

[3:20:21] >> Councilman Fletcher?

[3:20:22] >> Yes.

[3:20:22] >> Councilwoman Ksky?

[3:20:24] >> Yes.

[3:20:24] >> Vice Mayor Bailey?

[3:20:25] >> Yes.

[3:20:25] >> Mayor Osman?

[3:20:26] >> Yes.

[3:20:27] >> The motion carries.

[3:20:28] >> And tab 25. Resolution of the city

[3:20:30] council of the city of Homestead,

[3:20:31] Florida, adopting the city of Homestead

[3:20:33] Water and Sewer Master Plan, providing

[3:20:34] that the water and sewer master plan

[3:20:36] shall serve as policy guide for future

[3:20:37] water and wastewater system planning,

[3:20:39] prioritization, coordination, and

[3:20:41] implementation efforts, providing for

[3:20:42] implementation, providing for an

[3:20:44] effective date.

[3:20:46] >> Have a motion moved by Councilman

[3:20:48] Fletcher, second by Councilman Cannibal.

[3:20:50] There anything further? Seeing none,

[3:20:53] roll call vote. Madam clerk,

[3:20:54] >> Councilman Rob,

[3:20:55] >> yes. Councilwoman Abula. Councilman

[3:20:58] Fletcher.

[3:20:58] >> Yes.

[3:20:59] >> Councilman Calone.

[3:21:00] >> Yes.

[3:21:00] >> Councilwoman Ksky. Yes.

[3:21:02] >> Vice Mayor Bailey. Yes.

[3:21:03] >> Mayor Lawson. Yes.

[3:21:04] >> The motion carries.

[3:21:06] >> Moving on to tab 26.

[3:21:09] >> 26 is a resolution of the city council

[3:21:11] of the city of Homestead, Florida,

[3:21:12] authorizing a city manager to accept the

[3:21:14] grant award from the Florida Department

[3:21:16] of Management Services, executing grant

[3:21:18] agreement and any related documents,

[3:21:20] providing for implementation, providing

[3:21:21] for an effective date.

[3:21:24] It's been moved by councelor Ross,

[3:21:26] seconded by the vice mayor. There's

[3:21:28] nothing further. All in favor? I.

[3:21:30] >> Any opposed? All right, that takes us to

[3:21:34] 27.

[3:21:35] >> Seven.

[3:21:36] >> 27 is a resolution of the city council

[3:21:38] of the city of home state of Florida

[3:21:39] approving the settlements of all claims

[3:21:41] made by Elizabeth Collier, providing for

[3:21:43] implementation, providing for an

[3:21:44] effective date.

[3:21:46] >> Moved by the vice mayor.

[3:21:47] >> Second by Councilman Cannibal. Roll

[3:21:50] call. Madam clerk.

[3:21:52] Ross.

[3:21:53] >> Yes.

[3:21:53] >> Councilwoman Abula.

[3:21:55] >> Yes.

[3:21:55] >> Councilman Fletcher.

[3:21:56] >> Yes.

[3:21:57] >> Councilwoman Ksky.

[3:21:58] >> Yes.

[3:21:58] >> Councilman Cannibal.

[3:22:00] >> Yes.

[3:22:00] >> Vice Mayor Bailey.

[3:22:01] >> Yes.

[3:22:01] >> Mayor Losner.

[3:22:02] >> Yes.

[3:22:03] >> The motion carries.

[3:22:04] >> And that should take us to tab.

[3:22:07] >> 287.

[3:22:08] >> 28.

[3:22:08] We're on 28. That was 27 was the

[3:22:11] settlement. We just

[3:22:12] >> settle. All right. So 28. And I

[3:22:14] apologize to anyone who's been here for

[3:22:16] this. I was supposed to move this to the

[3:22:18] front of the agenda. And it's manager's

[3:22:21] fault. He forgot to remind me.

[3:22:25] Where's that bus? I'm going to throw

[3:22:26] you.

[3:22:28] Tab 28.

[3:22:30] The uh water and sewer upgrade.

[3:22:32] >> Tab 28 is a resolution of the mayor and

[3:22:35] city council of the city of Homestead,

[3:22:36] Florida, approving the award of

[3:22:37] invitation to bid number 202614 for the

[3:22:40] Chrome and Flaggler Avenue water and

[3:22:42] sewer upgrade and transit accessibility

[3:22:45] improvements project to Lonzo

[3:22:47] Construction, Inc. in the amount of

[3:22:49] 26,782,3378.

[3:22:54] Authorizing the city manager to execute

[3:22:55] an agreement and all related contract

[3:22:57] documents. Subject approval is to form

[3:23:00] legal sufficiency by the city attorney.

[3:23:02] Authorizing city manager to approve

[3:23:04] change orders or increases in the

[3:23:05] contract amount of up to 10% of the

[3:23:07] awarded amount as may be necessary to

[3:23:10] address unforeseen conditions or changes

[3:23:12] required to meet project specifications.

[3:23:15] providing for imple implementation,

[3:23:16] providing for an effective date.

[3:23:19] >> Thank you, Mr. Manager. Are there folks

[3:23:21] here to do a presentation on this item?

[3:23:23] >> Uh, there's no presentation. Uh, you've

[3:23:25] seen this project several times. This is

[3:23:27] one of the signature projects in the

[3:23:29] city's war and sewer master plan. This

[3:23:32] is the major critical infrastructure

[3:23:34] improvement that needs to be done. Uh,

[3:23:37] it will create redundancy citywide. It

[3:23:40] will enlarge and promote uh resiliency.

[3:23:43] We foresee up to 25 to 50 years of life

[3:23:46] and capacity improvements where we have

[3:23:48] existing 12in pipes. We are upsizing to

[3:23:51] 24 and 36. Uh that gives us a lot of

[3:23:54] flexibility for new development coming

[3:23:57] up. Uh subsequent to this we are coming

[3:24:00] back with pump station 11 uh the

[3:24:02] pipeline which is the forcemen that is

[3:24:04] going to be put out for bid I believe in

[3:24:06] the middle of next month for pump

[3:24:08] station 11 for the pipe the forcemen

[3:24:10] specific to this. We received five bids

[3:24:14] which is something that is very unusual

[3:24:16] and the prices range from 26 million to

[3:24:19] about $38 million and the lowest

[3:24:22] responsive and responsible bidder was

[3:24:24] Lanzo Construction. Uh madame director

[3:24:27] of procurement is here to take any

[3:24:29] technical questions on the procurement

[3:24:31] process. The lowest bidder was 26. The

[3:24:34] next bidder was 32. So there is a gap of

[3:24:37] $6 million.

[3:24:39] uh we are comfortable with the

[3:24:40] contractor that is being recommended.

[3:24:42] They have a ton of experience doing much much bigger projects than this both

[3:24:47] for immediate county and for Broward

[3:24:49] County and for War and Sewer. Uh we're

[3:24:52] actually surprised to see some of the

[3:24:54] biders because the county is currently

[3:24:56] soliciting for $2 billion worth of War

[3:24:59] and Sewer job that we thought were not

[3:25:01] going to get some credible contractors,

[3:25:03] but we did. All six of them were

[3:25:05] credible contractors and uh I think the

[3:25:08] representatives are here. Uh we giving

[3:25:11] them a tight timeline to finish this job

[3:25:14] by I believe 495 days, a little more

[3:25:18] than a year. Uh we're going to hold

[3:25:20] their feet to fire. I've told a couple

[3:25:23] of them that came to see me earlier that

[3:25:25] listen, the city expects nothing other

[3:25:27] than quality work. Uh, one of the

[3:25:30] initial promises is that they're going

[3:25:31] to establish a local office and they

[3:25:33] hope to hire local residents as part of

[3:25:36] the construction team.

[3:25:37] >> Very good.

[3:25:38] >> Okay.

[3:25:40] >> Thank you, Mr. Manager. All right. Do we

[3:25:41] have a motion to approve Tab 28? Yes,

[3:25:44] Council.

[3:25:44] >> Just real quick, this is one of the

[3:25:45] biggest contracts that I think I've ever

[3:25:48] had to approve. Can you remind us how

[3:25:49] we're paying for it?

[3:25:51] >> So, I have the finance director here.

[3:25:53] Um, I think there are about five funding

[3:25:56] sources for this project. It's not just

[3:25:59] one pro uh funding source. The CRA is

[3:26:03] funding a portion of the cost in the CRA

[3:26:05] area. You have the storm water utility

[3:26:07] fee for those that are drainage. You

[3:26:10] have the public works impact fees. If

[3:26:12] the water and sewer utility system

[3:26:14] revenue note, which was the the money

[3:26:17] that we borrowed, and I believe there

[3:26:19] was a contribution from the state

[3:26:23] last time, the governor gave us $4

[3:26:25] million last December.

[3:26:28] I think Mr. Finance covered it all. Give

[3:26:30] us a number.

[3:26:31] >> There are several funding sources and

[3:26:34] one of the things that's going to be the

[3:26:35] most complex is the schedule value when

[3:26:38] they invoice us is making sure that each

[3:26:41] section is tied to each funding because

[3:26:43] some of these funding are specific to

[3:26:46] certain things in the project. Like one

[3:26:47] of the uh the grants is for sewer only.

[3:26:50] So that means that that money can only

[3:26:53] pay for that portion. the roadway grants

[3:26:56] can only pay for the roadway elements of

[3:26:58] it. So, it's it's very tangly, but it's

[3:27:01] exciting. Like you said, it's one of the

[3:27:02] probably one of the biggest projects

[3:27:03] that we've contracts that we've

[3:27:06] approved.

[3:27:07] >> Got it. So,

[3:27:09] are we borrowing any money?

[3:27:11] >> Yes, we are. If you recall, in December,

[3:27:13] you approved a $12 million loan. Part of

[3:27:16] the funding was for the water and sewer

[3:27:19] improvements on Chrome and Flaggler and

[3:27:21] also like the manager mentioned for pump

[3:27:23] station 11 as well.

[3:27:25] >> And so the the loan was collateralized

[3:27:28] based on future revenue. Is that right?

[3:27:30] >> That's correct.

[3:27:32] >> The debt service was already built into

[3:27:34] the the budget. When you approved the uh

[3:27:36] the loan, we had already accounted for

[3:27:38] what the debt service was going to be.

[3:27:40] >> So in reality, it's not taxpayers aren't

[3:27:43] paying for this. This is grants. It's user fees user fees and grants.

[3:27:49] Correct.

[3:27:49] >> Right. Great. Okay. That's all. Thank

[3:27:51] you.

[3:27:51] >> So I I think I neglected to mention the

[3:27:54] FTA components. We have some MTA FTA

[3:27:57] funds for the transit related

[3:28:00] improvements.

[3:28:02] >> Council.

[3:28:03] >> And is this um from from breaking ground

[3:28:07] to potted plant beginning to end pro?

[3:28:09] This is this price encompasses

[3:28:11] everything. The timeline is what was

[3:28:15] bided on again like everything

[3:28:17] construction that might be unforeseen

[3:28:19] conditions

[3:28:20] >> right but my question is is this pricing

[3:28:22] is this pro this award is for final

[3:28:24] product

[3:28:25] >> oh yes that's what it is again subject

[3:28:27] to unforeseen conditions

[3:28:29] >> from sewer to sunflowers

[3:28:30] >> I was

[3:28:31] >> from sewer to sunflowers

[3:28:33] >> we know what they're going to get fed

[3:28:34] with

[3:28:36] >> I am not going to miss the opportunity

[3:28:37] to move this project

[3:28:39] >> okay

[3:28:40] >> I'm going to move it Okay.

[3:28:42] >> And sorry, I'll check in with a quick

[3:28:44] comment. We have a big job fair tomorrow

[3:28:47] in an effort to make sure that we get

[3:28:50] enough or we get as many of our

[3:28:53] residents to be able to apply. Can we

[3:28:55] help coordinate something similar for

[3:28:58] them when they're ready?

[3:29:00] So, um, we tomorrow, we intend to start

[3:29:04] off with,

[3:29:07] so we start off tomorrow with, uh,

[3:29:09] public outreach meetings with Pioneer

[3:29:11] Village and some businesses in downtown.

[3:29:14] Uh,

[3:29:17] so once the notice to proceed kicks off,

[3:29:19] the contractor will tell us what the

[3:29:21] schedule of values, the construction

[3:29:23] timeline, and what their needs are. Then

[3:29:26] that's the moment that we ask them,

[3:29:28] "What are your job needs for our local

[3:29:30] residents?"

[3:29:32] >> Can we make sure that that's one of the

[3:29:34] items of discussion during these first

[3:29:36] community conversations for people who

[3:29:38] are interested to be able to track,

[3:29:41] >> we'll do that.

[3:29:42] >> Okay.

[3:29:43] >> And that way the contractor wants to get

[3:29:45] an office in your area, your district.

[3:29:50] » Councilman Fleser.

[3:29:51] >> Yes. Thank you. And I want to thank

[3:29:52] Councilman Roth for bringing that up.

[3:29:54] This is the largest contract that I've

[3:29:57] approved since I've been on this

[3:29:58] council. And it's important to note that uh the taxpayers aren't funding

[3:30:02] this in the long run. Um

[3:30:06] for the contractor, I just want you to

[3:30:08] be prepared that we are going to be

[3:30:11] standard bearsers for excellent work and

[3:30:14] timely work.

[3:30:16] So it's uh very important to finish this

[3:30:19] efficiently and with minimal impacts. I

[3:30:21] know we're going to have a lot of

[3:30:22] community impacts. We just make sure

[3:30:24] we're going to educate everybody in

[3:30:25] time. That's all. Thank you.

[3:30:28] >> Yes, time frame is very important to

[3:30:30] some of us.

[3:30:32] All right, so we have a motion and a

[3:30:34] second. So, let's have a roll call vote.

[3:30:36] >> Councilwoman Abilio, yes.

[3:30:37] >> Councilman Roth,

[3:30:38] >> Councilman Cannibal,

[3:30:40] >> yes.

[3:30:40] >> Councilman Fletcher,

[3:30:41] >> yes.

[3:30:42] >> Councilwoman Ksky, yes.

[3:30:43] >> Vice Mayor Bailey, yes.

[3:30:45] >> Mayor Lawson,

[3:30:46] >> yes.

[3:30:46] >> The motion carried.

[3:30:48] >> All right. Before we go to tab 30,

[3:30:50] Councilman Fletcher, would you like to

[3:30:52] extend?

[3:30:54] >> We're motion to move the meeting to 10

[3:30:57] o'clock.

[3:31:00] >> Yeah.

[3:31:02] >> All right. All in favor?

[3:31:04] >> Any opposed?

[3:31:05] >> All right. Go ahead.

[3:31:06] >> Yeah. I just want to take the

[3:31:07] procurement department on this item

[3:31:09] also. This is a very complicated item to approve. So, Malia, thank you very

[3:31:14] much.

[3:31:16] >> Thank you. All

[3:31:18] right, that takes us

[3:31:19] >> and also public works director Kyro

[3:31:21] Kangas. He did a pretty good job on

[3:31:23] this.

[3:31:24] >> Yes.

[3:31:27] >> All right. So, that takes us to tab

[3:31:31] >> 30.

[3:31:34] Sav 30 is the first reading of an

[3:31:35] ordinance of the city of Homestead,

[3:31:37] Florida, amending chapter 2,

[3:31:38] administration, article 8, contracts and

[3:31:40] purchasing of the code of ordinances of

[3:31:42] the city of Homestead to create division

[3:31:44] 3 processing of proposals creating

[3:31:46] section 2-293 general provisions

[3:31:49] creating section 2-294.

[3:31:51] Qualifying public private partnership

[3:31:53] proposals creating section 2-295

[3:31:55] unsolicited land proposals for

[3:31:57] city-owned real property establishing a

[3:31:58] procedure for the receipt screening

[3:32:00] evaluation negotiation of qualified

[3:32:03] public private partnership proposals

[3:32:04] consistent with section 255065 Florida

[3:32:07] statutes establishing a separate

[3:32:09] procedure for the receipt screening

[3:32:10] evaluation negotiation of unsolicited

[3:32:13] proposals for the sale lease or ground

[3:32:14] lease redevelopment or other disposition

[3:32:16] of cityown real property interest

[3:32:18] therein codifying application fees for

[3:32:20] each categor ategory proposal subject

[3:32:23] to other applicable governing laws other

[3:32:26] applicable law governing the disposition

[3:32:28] of property providing for codification

[3:32:30] severability conflicts and an effective

[3:32:31] date.

[3:32:33] >> Thank you. All right. So I would imagine

[3:32:36] there are quite a few questions or

[3:32:38] comments on this. So I'll open up the

[3:32:40] floor to council on this item. Um I

[3:32:43] worked with our attorneys and and

[3:32:45] management to bring this forward as a

[3:32:47] reflection of we have nothing in place.

[3:32:50] no guidelines whatsoever really for

[3:32:54] dealing with analyzing processing either

[3:32:58] unsolicited proposals or

[3:33:02] what's generally called a P3

[3:33:05] uh proposal. So this kind of builds in

[3:33:08] some guard rails. Everybody's again

[3:33:10] going back to that policy and procedure

[3:33:13] so that everyone is very clear as to uh

[3:33:16] what the burdens and uh and benefits are

[3:33:20] of uh both the city and a proposer for

[3:33:23] bringing something uh forward. With

[3:33:26] that, I would be happy to hear any uh

[3:33:29] any comments or concerns on the on first

[3:33:32] reading, and there will be opportunity

[3:33:34] to uh to make changes between now and uh

[3:33:38] and second reading. Council Fletcher.

[3:33:40] >> Yes. Thank you. And I think this is uh

[3:33:43] the right time and place to move this

[3:33:45] forward. Uh I'm not really sure if the fees are quite enough, you know,

[3:33:50] based on uh previous inst if if you go

[3:33:55] back to the the offer on the old city

[3:33:57] hall site,

[3:33:59] you know, one time we we spent $110,000

[3:34:02] for consultant,

[3:34:04] you know, over a couple projects, but

[3:34:06] basically that's where it started plus

[3:34:08] staff time. So again, I don't know if

[3:34:10] these fees are actually

[3:34:13] realistic in in ensuring we're we're

[3:34:16] covering those costs. Um I'm open to my colleagues uh

[3:34:24] information, but it's just uh it's

[3:34:26] something that needs to be done and I

[3:34:28] just think the fee structure should be a

[3:34:30] little higher.

[3:34:31] Certainly historically we could go back

[3:34:33] to that the city hall process the

[3:34:37] original shotgun process with Mr.

[3:34:39] Sweezy's entity and some of the original

[3:34:42] even minority builders and the original

[3:34:45] uh triangle proposal.

[3:34:50] If if we could get those it could tell

[3:34:52] us whether we're in the ballpark of

[3:34:55] uh reasonable fees.

[3:34:59] So, if we could we could receive those

[3:35:01] between now and second reading and any

[3:35:04] others you could think of.

[3:35:05] >> Yeah. And have we have we looked at

[3:35:06] other municipalities to ensure maybe

[3:35:08] this is in line with what they do?

[3:35:10] >> We did. Um and there, you know, $25,000

[3:35:13] as as a flat fee just for the

[3:35:14] application. There's there's a process

[3:35:17] built in where if they you find your

[3:35:19] actual costs are exceeding that you can

[3:35:22] go back and seek additional funds and

[3:35:24] they in a P3 context they have to submit

[3:35:26] within 30 days and you don't have to do

[3:35:28] any work if they don't submit the

[3:35:31] additional funds. You can drop it and

[3:35:33] not take on your your dollars. If you'd

[3:35:35] like to look um at additional things,

[3:35:39] you know, you can have an application

[3:35:40] fee plus, you know, an additional escrow

[3:35:42] if that's something you're interested in

[3:35:44] seeing, which would be drawn down on and

[3:35:46] maybe a you akin to a cost recovery

[3:35:49] account to account for the actual costs.

[3:35:52] The fee is your your money on a P in a

[3:35:55] P3 context. If you proceed, it's a fee.

[3:35:57] It's yours.

[3:35:59] um unless you choose not to pursue it at

[3:36:02] all in which case and by statute it goes

[3:36:04] back to them whereas an escrow amount

[3:36:08] would just be drawn down on actual costs

[3:36:11] and you could determine that. So I I'm

[3:36:14] open there there's

[3:36:16] a array of options this is the simplest

[3:36:20] and if you know there's two separate fee

[3:36:22] structures that are broken out. One is

[3:36:24] for the P3 which is not what you have

[3:36:26] traditionally seen which deals with a

[3:36:29] qualifying public project. What we have

[3:36:32] traditionally seen here is uh land

[3:36:34] proposals for either long-term leases or

[3:36:37] acquisitions and that's where the city

[3:36:39] has incurred its costs over the years

[3:36:41] and in those types of deals and

[3:36:45] trying to contemplate what that looks

[3:36:47] like. We have a again there's a

[3:36:48] spectrum. You can have somebody who

[3:36:50] wants a single family lot or may we may

[3:36:52] want to do a an appraisal before we sell it, but that's not going

[3:36:58] to be an exorbitant amount of money

[3:37:00] versus somebody who wants the old city

[3:37:02] hall site or, you know, mitigation

[3:37:05] property, whatever that may be. And so

[3:37:07] we did for the land acquisition a

[3:37:09] graduated scale to account for the the

[3:37:12] anticipated costs. And again, in that

[3:37:15] section, there's also a reservation to

[3:37:17] go back to them and seek additional

[3:37:18] funds. But I'm happy to make any changes

[3:37:20] that you want and bring back any

[3:37:22] information you want for a second read.

[3:37:24] >> So I was going to say exactly that, but

[3:37:26] that's why I asked the question. Okay.

[3:37:28] Uh but here there again I don't I'm open

[3:37:30] to my colleague suggestions, but I I

[3:37:32] just I'm not sure about the fee

[3:37:34] structure.

[3:37:34] >> Well, and that's I think the basic of

[3:37:36] the provisions in here are built in to

[3:37:38] go back and ask for more.

[3:37:41] >> Certainly were covered.

[3:37:42] >> Yes. But and if they refuse to do so,

[3:37:45] then

[3:37:47] >> goodbye.

[3:37:50] Okay. And certainly there's there's time

[3:37:53] to massage this in each of your minds

[3:37:55] with with the attorney between now and then and and uh you know tee up some amendments, but at least uh get

[3:38:05] moving from where we had nothing in

[3:38:06] place before. Vice Mayor,

[3:38:08] >> did you Oh, you're good.

[3:38:10] >> Just real quick.

[3:38:11] >> Yeah. Um,

[3:38:13] what it a workshop?

[3:38:16] I think based on what I'm hearing, what

[3:38:19] Matt just said, I got lost.

[3:38:22] >> So,

[3:38:22] >> I'm sorry.

[3:38:23] >> I understand what Fletch what Councilman

[3:38:25] Fletcher is saying and then I understand

[3:38:26] what you're saying. There's

[3:38:27] contingencies built into it to protect

[3:38:29] us for additional fees.

[3:38:31] >> Yes.

[3:38:32] >> Um, but I still think

[3:38:35] we could work on this a little bit more.

[3:38:37] Well, we could we adopt it and not have

[3:38:39] a second reading until after we have a

[3:38:41] workshop.

[3:38:41] >> Or we can have a workshop between in

[3:38:43] between

[3:38:43] >> between first and second.

[3:38:45] >> Certainly.

[3:38:45] >> That's fine.

[3:38:46] >> Right.

[3:38:47] >> Yes, Vice Mayor.

[3:38:49] >> And then I think what would make me

[3:38:51] understand things a little clearer as

[3:38:53] well. Um what I was trying to think of

[3:38:55] is what are the last few deals or

[3:39:00] things the city was considering that

[3:39:02] this would have fallen in place with?

[3:39:04] not to say now but to talk about during

[3:39:06] the workshop is to give us some examples

[3:39:09] of of how things would have looked with

[3:39:11] some last

[3:39:12] >> and at the workshop we can we come up

[3:39:14] with clearly obvious and then there's

[3:39:16] going to be some that

[3:39:17] >> wow where did that come from

[3:39:19] >> I okay so I I would ask that we you know

[3:39:24] pass it at first reading subject to a

[3:39:26] workshop prior to second reading

[3:39:29] >> okay all right so moved with that

[3:39:31] condition by Councilman Fletcher second

[3:39:33] by Councilman Councilman Roth. Any

[3:39:35] further? Okay, let's have a roll call

[3:39:37] vote on that item.

[3:39:39] >> Councilwoman Ksky,

[3:39:41] >> Council Councilman Fletcher,

[3:39:43] >> yes.

[3:39:44] >> Councilman Roth,

[3:39:45] >> yes.

[3:39:45] >> Councilman Cannibal,

[3:39:46] >> yes.

[3:39:47] >> Councilwoman Abula.

[3:39:48] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,

[3:39:49] >> yes.

[3:39:50] >> Mayor Losner,

[3:39:51] >> yes.

[3:39:51] >> The motion.

[3:39:53] >> Okay.

[3:39:55] >> Uh, tab 31. 31

[3:39:57] >> is the second reading of an ordinance of

[3:39:59] the city of Homestead, Florida, amending

[3:40:01] the city code of ordinances by amending

[3:40:02] chapter 30 zoning, article 4,

[3:40:04] supplemental district regulations,

[3:40:06] division 2, off streetet parking to

[3:40:08] modify regulations and standards related

[3:40:10] to the temporary parking of boats and

[3:40:11] further establishing regulations

[3:40:13] concerning parking within private rights

[3:40:14] of way permitted within private

[3:40:16] residential developments, providing for

[3:40:18] severability, providing for inclusion in

[3:40:19] the code, providing for conflicts and

[3:40:21] providing for an effective date.

[3:40:23] >> Another workshop

[3:40:28] Thank you. Um, thank you, Matt. And, um,

[3:40:32] I I do believe that staff um, circulated

[3:40:35] another letter of support to accompany

[3:40:37] this agenda item from a leader, a CDD

[3:40:41] board member in Waterstone community.

[3:40:44] Um, you know, this ordinance does not

[3:40:47] expand parking or boat storage. It just

[3:40:51] clarifies who governs it and within a

[3:40:55] private community that authority should

[3:40:58] belong to the HOA that the residents

[3:41:00] already agreed to live and uh and to

[3:41:03] live under the rules. Uh the the fact that there

[3:41:12] are differences within association

[3:41:14] communities and nonassociation

[3:41:16] communities is not uh a foreign concept.

[3:41:19] Today we already live under different

[3:41:22] rules and regulations that other areas

[3:41:24] in the cities don't have to comply to.

[3:41:26] And even within our zoning and with our

[3:41:30] uh our code, there are different

[3:41:32] guidelines that um that affect uh

[3:41:36] different developments. For example, in

[3:41:38] the TMU or in the PUD POD developments,

[3:41:41] there's different architectural uh

[3:41:43] guidelines in the P pioneer district

[3:41:45] within our downtown. There's different

[3:41:47] uh distinguish uh this items that are

[3:41:50] distinguished. So, so it's not a foreign

[3:41:52] concept that depending on where you are

[3:41:54] in the city, different um different

[3:41:57] codes or different rules would apply.

[3:41:59] Um, additionally, I want you all to

[3:42:00] consider that associations are a tool to

[3:42:05] work alongside with for the city. Uh,

[3:42:07] use the associations as a mean to echo

[3:42:10] the message. Um, you know, recently I

[3:42:13] started getting a lot of phone calls

[3:42:14] about, oh my gosh, code enforcement's

[3:42:16] going doortodoor knocking on on doors to

[3:42:20] uh promote the messaging about

[3:42:21] recycling. We we need to promote better

[3:42:23] recycling efforts, but there's like a

[3:42:26] really strong boundary about soliciting

[3:42:28] inside gated communities. It's not

[3:42:30] received well. So, use the associations

[3:42:33] to broad broaden your message and and uh

[3:42:37] send out they could send out

[3:42:38] newsletters. they can help you promote

[3:42:40] um the the importance of recycling,

[3:42:43] things like that. The same thing goes

[3:42:44] with parking and boat storage. These

[3:42:47] rules and regulations that residents are

[3:42:49] already living to for various years, uh

[3:42:53] 20 20 30 years in our community, it's

[3:42:56] already been a proven concept that

[3:42:58] things are under control and there

[3:43:00] aren't any challenges. And um this

[3:43:03] ordinance simply just surgically and

[3:43:06] precisely clarifies who is governing

[3:43:08] those and regulating those two specific

[3:43:11] items. There's been a lot of talk

[3:43:13] tonight about code revisions and um in other meetings we talked about it

[3:43:18] would cost $250,000 to do a code

[3:43:21] rewrite. We've been talking about it for

[3:43:23] many years and I still promote that we

[3:43:25] should fix our code comprehensively. But

[3:43:28] until then, we should look at the areas

[3:43:31] within our community that need to have

[3:43:33] special attention. And I um respectfully

[3:43:36] ask for your your vote and support

[3:43:39] tonight and to trust that the

[3:43:40] associations are going to continue to do

[3:43:45] a great job with enforcing park and uh

[3:43:48] parking and boating storage within their

[3:43:50] communities responsibly, which would

[3:43:52] ultimately allow for code enforcement to

[3:43:56] relieve themselves from the requirement

[3:43:58] of having to focus on those items and to

[3:44:01] do other more important work in our

[3:44:04] communities.

[3:44:05] So, I'll rest with that. Thank you,

[3:44:08] >> council.

[3:44:11] » Yes, vice mayor.

[3:44:12] >> Thank you, Mayor.

[3:44:16] I think it could go either way. You

[3:44:18] know, it will

[3:44:20] Well, one question for staff. Are there

[3:44:22] any areas in the city where boats are

[3:44:25] able to be stored in front of the homes

[3:44:28] indefinitely?

[3:44:31] >> No.

[3:44:32] acre lots? No, no, no. So,

[3:44:41] is there also conversation about setting

[3:44:45] a standard across the board for all

[3:44:48] areas and the time frame allowed or

[3:44:51] you're saying to to let each HOA

[3:44:53] determine how long their residents are

[3:44:57] able to

[3:44:58] >> Right. So ex current day the the the

[3:45:01] rules and regulations regarding parking

[3:45:03] and boat enforcement within HOAs, it

[3:45:05] already exists. So what I'm saying is to

[3:45:08] allow that standard be whatever that

[3:45:10] standard is. So the the actual verbiage

[3:45:13] and the code that's adjusting is just

[3:45:14] clarifying that those two items would be

[3:45:17] governed by the HOA. It's not setting

[3:45:18] the time limit. It's not setting the

[3:45:20] storage um front or back. The reason is that some properties have larger lots

[3:45:26] where you can store a recreational

[3:45:28] vehicle in the yard, but 90% are not and

[3:45:32] the HOA rules typically don't allow it.

[3:45:34] So, there is no perpetual boat parking

[3:45:36] in front of a home that I'm aware of.

[3:45:38] Um, it's in the example that Councilman

[3:45:41] Fletcher gave in our last reading, um,

[3:45:43] is that in the Keysgate community, it

[3:45:45] allows for three days. Once those three

[3:45:47] days are over, you got to have your boat

[3:45:49] off your property. That's one one

[3:45:51] example. association that example which

[3:45:55] people have merily lived under for many

[3:45:57] for 30 years now in the eastgate

[3:45:59] community is a direct violation of the

[3:46:01] current code and so while I do agree

[3:46:03] that perhaps there for the benefit of

[3:46:06] the southwest and the northwest which I

[3:46:08] was speaking to some of the southwest

[3:46:09] residents earlier today and that's kind

[3:46:12] of the discussion is while we do move

[3:46:14] forward and make these precise changes

[3:46:17] in some districts or some areas let's

[3:46:20] not forget and take an opportunity to

[3:46:21] maybe look at where else we have to

[3:46:23] provide relief whether it's a whether it

[3:46:26] is bark boat and uh boat storage maybe

[3:46:29] instead of two hours you allow 12 hours

[3:46:31] so that you can clean your boat you know

[3:46:33] but that would be again another a change

[3:46:36] that we could always bring back on a on

[3:46:38] a larger area but for parking

[3:46:41] enforcement another example some

[3:46:43] communities the roads are larger so they

[3:46:46] allow you to park on the street

[3:46:49] in smaller roadway communities They

[3:46:52] don't want you to park on the street

[3:46:53] because they don't want you to obstruct

[3:46:56] uh emergency vehicles and garbage

[3:46:58] vehicles. So, they promote you to park

[3:47:01] in your in your driveway. And addition

[3:47:04] to all of that, these roads, these

[3:47:07] sidewalks, the the communities of these

[3:47:10] that falls under this ordinance are

[3:47:13] privately maintained. They're filling

[3:47:15] their own potholes. They're paving their

[3:47:17] own roadways. they're fixing their own

[3:47:20] sidewalks when the root systems are

[3:47:22] lifting up the the you know creating

[3:47:24] that um uneven sidewalk.

[3:47:27] So in the perspective of the association

[3:47:29] it does come as a surprise that this is

[3:47:31] even um contrary in the code. So again

[3:47:35] it's just clarifying and making a

[3:47:37] correction that probably should have

[3:47:38] already existed when the pud was

[3:47:40] created. So call it a housekeeping

[3:47:43] measure. It is um it's not a foreign

[3:47:46] concept that associations have different

[3:47:49] rules and regulations and this is

[3:47:50] something that the city doesn't have to

[3:47:52] burden themselves with identifying and

[3:47:54] curing.

[3:47:56] >> I think besides the comment made at the

[3:48:00] last meeting that sometimes the garbage

[3:48:01] trucks couldn't get through. I think in

[3:48:04] the end that should have been set up

[3:48:06] from the beginning if that's the way

[3:48:07] things have been for the last 30 years

[3:48:09] there and it's working um at least most

[3:48:12] of the time relatively well leave it as

[3:48:14] is.

[3:48:19] This this um this ordinance just

[3:48:21] clarifies that the

[3:48:24] responsibility of the city

[3:48:27] isn't to go in there and and find people

[3:48:31] if they're parking in their parking

[3:48:33] spaces or if they're boat is out for

[3:48:35] more than two hours. And when without

[3:48:38] this code being changed, all the

[3:48:41] associations are basically operating in

[3:48:43] conflict to the code. So with that, I'll

[3:48:46] make a motion to approve my code

[3:48:48] amendment. Thank you.

[3:48:50] >> Question, Mr. Mayor.

[3:48:53] >> Council Fletcher.

[3:48:54] >> Yes, thank you. So, right now this is

[3:48:56] very singular, you know, right to boats.

[3:48:59] It doesn't really address other

[3:49:02] vehicles, recreational vehicles, motor

[3:49:05] homes, uh, which can also be an issue.

[3:49:08] Uh, and and most homeowners associations

[3:49:11] have restrictions on those being in in

[3:49:14] there for a period of time as well. Why

[3:49:16] are we just identifying boats?

[3:49:20] How many of these have actually occurred

[3:49:21] where the cities actually went out and gave

[3:49:25] citations? And I understand you're

[3:49:28] wanting to give the HOAs the And look, I

[3:49:31] I've seen the letters. I've talked to my

[3:49:34] residents as well, but what happens on

[3:49:37] the fifth day or the sixth day? The HOA

[3:49:40] is doing they're doing their fines and

[3:49:42] whatever, but the boat's still there.

[3:49:44] the seventh day. You know, it there at

[3:49:46] some point the city's going to have to

[3:49:48] come in and and say something at some

[3:49:49] point. I would say,

[3:49:52] do other cities have anything similar to

[3:49:54] this or are we creating something new?

[3:49:58] >> None of the cities in South Florida in

[3:50:01] Dade County that I pulled or in the

[3:50:03] county have anything. I'm not I'm not

[3:50:04] against being a trends setter and moving

[3:50:06] forward, but

[3:50:08] >> we compared like cities and either they

[3:50:11] were silent on the topic, which would

[3:50:12] then refer you to the Miami Dade County

[3:50:15] code, or they had their own. The only

[3:50:18] city that stood out to be one of our

[3:50:21] neighbors that was more strict than ours

[3:50:24] um was um South Miami that required you

[3:50:28] to register your vote with the city to

[3:50:30] ensure that the vote belonged on that

[3:50:33] property. Other than that, they are all

[3:50:36] mirrored the same as ours.

[3:50:40] >> So, that's a concern just basically that we're going to be an outlier with

[3:50:43] other cities in in South Florida. Uh

[3:50:46] Again,

[3:50:48] I will I will listen to what my

[3:50:51] colleagues have to say. Uh, I appreciate

[3:50:52] your comments and and understand, but

[3:50:56] this may require a little more work

[3:51:00] uh to ensure that, you know, right now

[3:51:02] we're we're trying to unbburden city

[3:51:05] employees potentially, but at the same

[3:51:08] time

[3:51:10] they're driving down the road and they

[3:51:11] see something that's not safe, has been

[3:51:14] there for a while. You know, where where

[3:51:16] do we draw the line? Do we just let the

[3:51:19] HOA handle it? And then we're looking

[3:51:22] differently at areas that don't have

[3:51:23] HOAs.

[3:51:25] So

[3:51:26] there's give and take here, I think,

[3:51:28] that we have to look at. Uh

[3:51:31] I'll see what everyone else has to say.

[3:51:39] » Oh,

[3:51:41] I'll just let me just throw my two cents

[3:51:43] in here. Um the two-hour citywide

[3:51:48] um code is I think

[3:51:52] a little short

[3:51:55] and I don't know how many of our code

[3:51:56] officers are driving around on a Sunday

[3:51:58] afternoon looking for people who got

[3:52:00] their boats out in front of the yard

[3:52:01] more than two hours. So, I think some I

[3:52:04] don't know if somebody's mentioned it

[3:52:05] that maybe we look at this and and

[3:52:07] change the code entirely because

[3:52:11] my thought was although I support the

[3:52:14] HOA's taking care of their their

[3:52:16] residents and their properties

[3:52:19] that it's more of selective enforcement

[3:52:21] on the city side where someone who lives

[3:52:24] in the northwest section, the code

[3:52:25] enforcement's going to enforce a

[3:52:28] two-hour curfew on their boat and that

[3:52:30] same guy goes and visits the guy in

[3:52:33] Keysgate and he's got his boat out in

[3:52:35] his yard for two year or two days or

[3:52:36] three days. So,

[3:52:40] I think the HOAs do a great job in in

[3:52:42] maintaining and protecting the values of

[3:52:44] their homes and their residents. And I

[3:52:46] think

[3:52:48] it's it needs more work than what is is here because I just think the

[3:52:54] selective enforcement

[3:52:56] could create an issue for us in the

[3:52:57] future.

[3:53:00] I don't know how you allow

[3:53:02] a part of the city to ignore whatever

[3:53:05] the code is and the other part of the

[3:53:08] city has to be enforced with that code.

[3:53:09] So I just don't understand that that

[3:53:11] concept of it. So, um, but as I said, I

[3:53:16] think the HOAs

[3:53:18] have the ability to govern themselves a

[3:53:20] lot better than the city does when it

[3:53:22] comes to the enforcement of a 2-hour

[3:53:26] rule or 72-hour rule based on, you know,

[3:53:29] the way some of those communities look

[3:53:31] versus

[3:53:33] how some other communities in the city

[3:53:35] looks as well. So, maybe I think vice

[3:53:38] mayor mentioned a workshop to

[3:53:42] And I hate keep adding up workshops and

[3:53:44] workshops, but if we're going to make,

[3:53:47] you know, improvements to the city, I

[3:53:50] think it takes more than sitting here

[3:53:51] for an hour to debate a topic like this

[3:53:55] where um I just think that the selective

[3:53:58] enforcement part of it is a is a big

[3:54:00] problem. Um and once residents realize

[3:54:04] on the northwest side that people on the

[3:54:06] east side parked their boats for three

[3:54:08] days and not got a citation and and I'm

[3:54:11] getting a citation. I feel bad for the

[3:54:14] representatives in that that area, you

[3:54:16] know. So,

[3:54:18] that's just my two cents for for this

[3:54:20] topic.

[3:54:21] >> Thank you, Mary.

[3:54:22] >> Thank you, Councilman. So, in the runup

[3:54:26] to this, well, let me back up. At its

[3:54:29] core,

[3:54:32] this proposed ordinance

[3:54:37] legalizes activity that is contrary to

[3:54:40] city code. And while it is true when one

[3:54:45] says that HOA rules are different from

[3:54:48] city codes,

[3:54:50] it is more truthful to say that they are

[3:54:54] by and large and we all view them as

[3:54:57] more restrictive than city code. And I

[3:55:01] think that's what folks expect when they

[3:55:03] move into a gated community are those

[3:55:07] more restrictive rules. And however it

[3:55:10] happened, it's come to our attention now

[3:55:12] that some HOAs have

[3:55:16] rules that violate city code. So, we're

[3:55:23] and and to to piggyback on Councilman

[3:55:25] Roth, and I think I touched on this at

[3:55:26] first reading, this could be a real

[3:55:29] slippery slope that if I'm the guy in

[3:55:32] the Northwest that gets a ticket for

[3:55:34] having my boat out there in the driveway

[3:55:36] for the third hour, I'm going to say,

[3:55:38] "Hey, wait a minute.

[3:55:40] You allow these folks over on the other

[3:55:42] side of town to park them out there for

[3:55:46] three days." and and that that's just a

[3:55:50] slippery slope that's going to open up a

[3:55:52] lot of of a lot of issues. I think I

[3:55:55] don't know what the history is of why we

[3:55:57] only allow two hours and and maybe we

[3:56:00] need to to look at that. But what is

[3:56:04] being asked here is is not whether it's

[3:56:07] 2 hours, 12 hours, or 72 hours. This is

[3:56:12] asking us as a city through code

[3:56:14] enforcement to ignore those violations

[3:56:18] in in gated communities and I I don't

[3:56:22] know that we have the discretion to do

[3:56:24] that.

[3:56:26] But you know at its heart this seems to

[3:56:28] be a solution in search of a problem.

[3:56:31] The statistics that code enforcement

[3:56:33] provided to each and every one of us is

[3:56:36] that since January 1, 2024,

[3:56:40] only 10 boat citations have been written

[3:56:45] in I believe I don't know if it was

[3:56:46] citywide or gated communities.

[3:56:48] >> No, the requested information was for

[3:56:51] the some of the larger associations.

[3:56:54] >> I don't want to name them, but they're

[3:56:55] in the memo with three of the largest

[3:56:58] community associations. What violations

[3:57:01] So 10 tickets if I may add that the

[3:57:03] first reading there was a different

[3:57:05] report that was circulated which was

[3:57:06] more citywide and association specific.

[3:57:09] >> So are you referring to the second

[3:57:11] circulation or the first

[3:57:12] >> the second request?

[3:57:14] was incorrectly

[3:57:17] provided but the first reporting that

[3:57:19] was circulated at first hearing

[3:57:21] >> that one showed approximately 160

[3:57:24] violations.

[3:57:26] mix between boats and parking citywide,

[3:57:29] >> right? That was all for a longer period

[3:57:30] of time. The second reporting was

[3:57:32] narrowed to three three of the larger

[3:57:34] associations for a shorter period of

[3:57:36] time.

[3:57:37] >> The second report

[3:57:39] was not intended to request specifically

[3:57:42] for boat and parking. So that that

[3:57:45] information was not appropriate for this

[3:57:48] discussion.

[3:57:49] >> I don't I don't think that's accurate.

[3:57:50] It clearly says boat violations and

[3:57:53] parking on rideaway violations. that I

[3:57:55] recall and it's here in the background

[3:57:56] >> but it's not it's not for all the

[3:57:58] associations that would be affected by

[3:57:59] this ordinance. the first report that

[3:58:01] you had requested on first hearing that

[3:58:03] one was inclusive of the associations

[3:58:06] and it was uh uh for boat and parking

[3:58:09] enforcement and on that report which

[3:58:11] Josh had circulated on the first hearing

[3:58:14] had approximately 160 which you can

[3:58:16] share 160 violations compiled between

[3:58:20] the preppl and the and the current

[3:58:22] program for for violations and out of

[3:58:26] 160 30% of those

[3:58:29] um were association specific and out of

[3:58:33] those um um associations

[3:58:38] district uh five for example was the was

[3:58:42] like over 50%. So, you know, hence why

[3:58:44] I'm the one bringing the item. I'm the

[3:58:46] one hearing the complaints and the

[3:58:47] issues.

[3:58:48] >> Right.

[3:58:48] >> So,

[3:58:49] >> 30% of 160 whatever.

[3:58:52] >> It's not 10. That's for sure. It's not

[3:58:53] 10.

[3:58:54] >> Okay. But 30% of 160 is 48. Half of 48

[3:58:59] is 24.

[3:59:00] >> Then uh

[3:59:01] >> in your district,

[3:59:02] >> that's still not an epidemic

[3:59:06] of problems.

[3:59:08] You've got to stop thinking about your

[3:59:10] district would be my advice that we have

[3:59:13] to think citywide. What's good for the

[3:59:16] goose has got to be good for the gander.

[3:59:19] >> Oh, I respect that 100%, mayor. And for

[3:59:21] that reason, I contacted multiple

[3:59:23] residents that live outside of the city

[3:59:25] gates and to get their fair and full um

[3:59:27] advice on this item and please do not

[3:59:30] paint the picture that I don't care

[3:59:31] about anything outside my district.

[3:59:33] Don't put that much in my mouth. Well, I

[3:59:35] do care about other districts aside from

[3:59:37] my own. And I did make a very strong

[3:59:40] effort to reach out and get feedback.

[3:59:42] And what I was told was, Erica, code

[3:59:45] enforcement needs to be focused on trash

[3:59:48] and illegal dumping. And if if they're

[3:59:50] spending time knocking doortodoor and

[3:59:52] they're going in there and and u issuing

[3:59:54] violations for boats and parking when

[3:59:57] the associations have their rules, why

[4:00:00] are they spending their time doing that?

[4:00:02] I I I beg the same question. You want to

[4:00:04] say it's only 10.

[4:00:06] >> That's not the case.

[4:00:07] >> So, mayor, may I offer a solution?

[4:00:09] Pardon? May I offer a solution?

[4:00:12] >> Uh I think that

[4:00:15] we all need to do a little more deeper

[4:00:17] dive into this before we approve final.

[4:00:20] I would I would suggest we have another

[4:00:22] workshop and again we can put two or

[4:00:25] three of these together but and not only

[4:00:29] look at the singular portion of boats

[4:00:31] but we have to look at the RVs and other

[4:00:33] things as well.

[4:00:34] >> Well and and I think it's a good

[4:00:36] opportunity to look at city code in

[4:00:39] terms of length and one thing that

[4:00:41] jumped out at me is there are some areas

[4:00:44] that allow two boats in a yard. I think

[4:00:46] one's plenty. two invites monetizing

[4:00:49] your backyard. Go online and type in

[4:00:53] boat rental space in Homestead and you

[4:00:55] have hundreds of entries where people

[4:00:57] are advertising

[4:01:00] park your boat in my backyard for x00 a

[4:01:03] month.

[4:01:05] >> Mayor, if I may to Councilman um

[4:01:07] Fletcher's uh question about why boats

[4:01:09] not RVs. Boats are typically able to be

[4:01:12] parked at a marina and you can bring it

[4:01:14] and you can use it, clean it up, take it

[4:01:16] back to your marina. RVs are not

[4:01:18] typically something that I I have not

[4:01:20] heard one complaint about, oh, I got

[4:01:22] cited for my RV. If you either have

[4:01:25] space in your yard to park your RV or

[4:01:27] you're you're bringing it in, filling it

[4:01:29] up, and leaving. But for the most part,

[4:01:32] I have I have not heard one complaint

[4:01:33] about RVs. But if you wanted to expand

[4:01:35] it to include RVs as part of the HOA um

[4:01:40] governance, I'm fine with that, too. I

[4:01:42] don't think the HOAs would have an

[4:01:44] issue.

[4:01:44] >> And again, I don't think the HOAs have a

[4:01:46] problem with RVs. It's the areas that

[4:01:47] don't have HOAs where RVs are located

[4:01:49] and people are living in them

[4:01:51] >> that they probably shouldn't be.

[4:01:53] >> Doesn't affect them.

[4:01:53] >> But I think ultimately, you know, again,

[4:01:55] we've we've talked about this since I've

[4:01:57] been on council. Our code is very

[4:02:01] >> draconian.

[4:02:03] time to change that. But, you know, the

[4:02:05] I think we need to sit down and really

[4:02:07] have a a discussion with with all the

[4:02:09] data, not with just dates here and

[4:02:11] there. We need to compile all the data

[4:02:13] and and put it in front of all of us. I

[4:02:16] want to say this does nothing but

[4:02:19] promotes the continued highlyization of

[4:02:22] certain parts of our community. This is

[4:02:24] the theory of anything goes. And I you

[4:02:28] can have all the workshops you want.

[4:02:32] We have to have consistent rules across

[4:02:35] the board, whatever it it may be.

[4:02:38] >> And I recommended at first reading that

[4:02:40] perhaps we do that as a secondary step,

[4:02:42] right, for consideration, using this as

[4:02:44] an example for open up the discussion,

[4:02:46] but you know, falling under the mayor's

[4:02:48] leadership, there's no room for

[4:02:50] expanding that. He called it

[4:02:53] culturalization, changing cultural.

[4:02:55] >> You're the one that used cultural

[4:02:56] evolution.

[4:02:57] >> No, I didn't say evolution. What I said

[4:02:59] was if you want a more affluent

[4:03:00] community, affluent people vote.

[4:03:02] >> Affluent peoples don't trash up their

[4:03:04] neighborhood by parking their boats in

[4:03:06] the front yard.

[4:03:08] >> They put them in the back or leave them

[4:03:09] at the marina.

[4:03:10] >> I have a question though.

[4:03:11] >> Point of order.

[4:03:12] >> I I have a question. In the exhibit

[4:03:15] three that I guess is is in the booklet

[4:03:18] here.

[4:03:20] Uh yeah, the same tab we're talking

[4:03:22] about. It it lists all the communities

[4:03:24] that are looks like all the gated

[4:03:26] communities here.

[4:03:28] >> Who answered?

[4:03:29] So,

[4:03:31] >> right. So, we went through the

[4:03:33] management companies for the respective

[4:03:35] um associations that we had listings and

[4:03:37] contact information for and we sent

[4:03:40] multiple email requests for information

[4:03:42] and these are uh the responses that we

[4:03:45] received.

[4:03:46] >> Right. So, it looks like

[4:03:48] um most of Oasis

[4:03:54] Um, Waterstone did some communities,

[4:03:59] but in Waterstone, the ones that I see

[4:04:01] for Waterstone, they don't allow any

[4:04:04] boat boat parking or any temporary

[4:04:06] parking in those communities.

[4:04:08] And

[4:04:10] um,

[4:04:12] in the

[4:04:14] Menescino area, states Menescino,

[4:04:16] Sonora, they didn't get any response.

[4:04:17] So, we don't know what they allow. And

[4:04:21] in the fairways is the longest with Dun

[4:04:24] Woody

[4:04:25] and Augusta Greens at 72 hours and the

[4:04:29] others are 24 hours. Right?

[4:04:31] >> But if you look down this list,

[4:04:34] most of those HOAs don't allow any

[4:04:39] parking in the front temporarily. And

[4:04:42] it'd be interesting what the

[4:04:45] bylaws for each of these other

[4:04:46] communities actually state because if

[4:04:49] we're only talking about basically

[4:04:51] Keysgate that has these

[4:04:55] >> temporary parking allowances,

[4:04:57] >> it's only a portion, right, that the

[4:05:00] Keys the Keysgate responses had the

[4:05:03] 24hour for some and they went by

[4:05:09] community lot size. So, some communities

[4:05:12] that have the smaller lots, even though

[4:05:14] they all have driveways, individual

[4:05:16] driveways, the smaller lots were not

[4:05:18] afforded

[4:05:20] um the parking, some not at all. Some

[4:05:24] the 24-hour based on the lot size and

[4:05:27] then the more generous estate homes have

[4:05:29] the 72-hour. So, it's not everyone in

[4:05:32] Keysgate that falls in you. Keysgate

[4:05:35] runs their boat regulation parking by

[4:05:38] the size of the lot. Got it. So when you

[4:05:41] look at Augusta Greens, for example,

[4:05:44] they have like zero lots. So they got a

[4:05:47] 72-hour parking limit there.

[4:05:49] >> That was the rationale by

[4:05:50] >> Dun Woody would be probably

[4:05:54] um the larger and the fairways would be

[4:05:56] the larger lots that allow for 72 hours.

[4:06:01] So,

[4:06:04] I mean, at this point, we're only

[4:06:07] considering without the information

[4:06:08] coming in from these other associations.

[4:06:11] Keysgate.

[4:06:13] >> Well, well, no. Um,

[4:06:14] >> no, I can testify that

[4:06:15] >> those were the ones that had the mult

[4:06:17] that that had the multi-, you know, the

[4:06:19] tiered amount of hours that were listed,

[4:06:21] >> right? But everybody else is a no. Other

[4:06:24] >> everybody else is a no. They don't have

[4:06:25] any temporary parking.

[4:06:27] >> So, it's not like code couldn't go into

[4:06:29] them today.

[4:06:30] and two hours psych the boat, right?

[4:06:34] Because they're not they're not they're

[4:06:36] not enfor the HOA is going to be

[4:06:38] enforcing this as well because there is

[4:06:40] no temporary parking in there.

[4:06:43] >> So,

[4:06:43] >> right now there's no correct.

[4:06:45] >> Yeah, there is there is no temporary

[4:06:46] parking in there. And even if we pass

[4:06:48] this ordinance,

[4:06:50] it doesn't affect them, right? Because

[4:06:53] they don't allow it for parking,

[4:06:55] >> right? As of right now, they don't allow

[4:06:56] it. But if if

[4:06:57] >> but they can't change their rules

[4:06:59] >> unless it's by resident vote.

[4:07:01] >> They can change their rules.

[4:07:02] >> This ordinance helps those whose rules

[4:07:04] violate city code,

[4:07:07] >> which is two hours,

[4:07:10] >> which I think we need to look at the

[4:07:12] code itself to allow for a more lenient

[4:07:15] time.

[4:07:16] >> Um,

[4:07:18] and I think for Councilman Fletcher's

[4:07:20] concern when it comes to the RVs, we

[4:07:22] already have

[4:07:23] >> we have we're pretty tight. We just did

[4:07:25] something a couple years ago.

[4:07:26] >> Yeah, we the RV were pretty tight. I

[4:07:29] think at one point they were going to

[4:07:30] report back to us the areas and the RVs

[4:07:33] and the addresses of those that got

[4:07:34] cited for having housing in those. I

[4:07:37] don't think I've ever seen that report

[4:07:38] ever, but um and I'm sure there there

[4:07:41] have been some. Um so that that's really

[4:07:44] in there already. Fletcher, that was

[4:07:45] pretty strict, too, the the RV thing

[4:07:47] because I know there were a few in the

[4:07:48] villages that were people were living in

[4:07:50] them and those things are gone now. So,

[4:07:52] I'm sure the code got all over them and

[4:07:54] took care of that. But I I I think we

[4:07:56] need to go and have a workshop. Let's

[4:07:58] get this thing ironed out so it's it's

[4:08:00] fair for everybody. Um and it's not

[4:08:03] selective

[4:08:05] in nature.

[4:08:05] >> I would support a 72-hour rule. Say it's

[4:08:08] citywide. I I was trying to be

[4:08:10] respectful of, you know, other positions

[4:08:12] and, you know, be precise and and

[4:08:16] surgical on how we approach these, which

[4:08:17] is not unprecedented, but

[4:08:19] >> I can support 72 and one boat. Take away

[4:08:22] the ability for the second boat.

[4:08:24] >> That's in our code is to allow two boats

[4:08:25] in your backyard

[4:08:26] >> depending upon the size of the lot

[4:08:28] >> or greater than half an acre.

[4:08:29] >> Yeah.

[4:08:30] >> Westberry Redland Reef was the woman who

[4:08:33] had her boat and she was ticketed for

[4:08:35] having both instead of only one. Yes. So

[4:08:39] that would be that would be that would

[4:08:40] be an item that we can also address.

[4:08:42] >> I think that may have been location. I

[4:08:44] think you can have one of each, but

[4:08:45] they're supposed to be in the back.

[4:08:46] >> That's what she absolutely testified

[4:08:48] that that she had was both in the back.

[4:08:50] So I I I will defer this item until

[4:08:53] after we have a workshop and I

[4:08:54] appreciate everyone's commitment to to

[4:08:56] addressing this concern. If you don't

[4:08:58] live in a gated community, then you're

[4:09:00] not re you're not living the problem

[4:09:02] because you might have a larger lot

[4:09:04] where you can park your boat behind your

[4:09:05] fence.

[4:09:06] Come with me and let's count RVs and

[4:09:09] boats that shouldn't be in my

[4:09:10] neighborhood.

[4:09:12] >> Yeah, I'm not discounting that.

[4:09:14] >> But you don't have a second anyway. So,

[4:09:15] it's move to defer.

[4:09:17] >> I'm moving to defer.

[4:09:19] >> Mr. Mayor, also there's a resident who

[4:09:21] can't call in who wants to speak. Um

[4:09:23] >> Oh, did we do a public comment on this

[4:09:25] item?

[4:09:25] >> Well, I mean, we we asked for it. He's

[4:09:28] unable to talk. So, maybe we can get him

[4:09:30] to speak at the workshop.

[4:09:32] >> Yeah. I'd like I'd like to hear I'd if

[4:09:34] there's someone who'd like to make a

[4:09:35] public comment either positive or

[4:09:37] negative on the item, I want I would

[4:09:38] like to hear it today,

[4:09:40] >> but I'm still okay with deferring.

[4:09:42] >> So, they're unable to to call in. I

[4:09:44] guess they're on the YouTube channel,

[4:09:45] but is there a number I can have them

[4:09:47] call in?

[4:09:49] >> They could call you and you can put your

[4:09:50] phone up to the microphone.

[4:09:54] » That's one way. The other way is to go

[4:09:56] into the city website and then in this

[4:09:59] uh calendar of events then there they

[4:10:02] can click in the zoom link

[4:10:07] » if they have zoom

[4:10:11] » or haven't called.

[4:10:12] >> We can do a suggested by the mayor and I

[4:10:14] can give you a wireless mic and we can

[4:10:16] put them in

[4:10:17] >> I can put him right with this mic if he

[4:10:19] wants to call. Okay,

[4:10:21] >> I'll call him.

[4:10:25] radio.

[4:10:26] >> Yeah.

[4:10:28] >> 12.

[4:10:30] >> You want to talk or you want to wait for

[4:10:31] the workshop?

[4:10:35] » Oh, hang on. I'm putting on speaker.

[4:10:40] » Go ahead.

[4:10:42] >> Okay. Can everybody hear me? Mayor and

[4:10:45] council.

[4:10:46] >> Yes.

[4:10:47] >> Manager.

[4:10:49] >> Okay. Can you hear me? Okay.

[4:10:51] >> Yes.

[4:10:52] >> Okay. Okay. 104. So

[4:10:56] we did the letter.

[4:10:58] >> Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.

[4:11:01] >> Larry Mino. Larry Mino.

[4:11:04] >> Larry Mino. 2555. Done. Woody Place.

[4:11:09] >> Go ahead.

[4:11:11] >> So Keys Gate did send a letter in

[4:11:15] support of this code amendment change.

[4:11:19] And in the letter, it outlines the

[4:11:23] reason why I hear an echo. Am I echoing

[4:11:28] to you?

[4:11:29] >> You're fine.

[4:11:30] >> Okay. So, in the letter, it outlines the

[4:11:34] governance that Keysgate

[4:11:38] has followed for the 25, 30, 35 years of

[4:11:44] its existence.

[4:11:46] Now, the fairways has a rule of 72 hours

[4:11:51] east lake. It could be 48.

[4:11:54] So, the point of this resolution is it

[4:11:57] hasn't been a problem in the past.

[4:12:00] Okay? But with the amendment, it would

[4:12:04] allow us to continue to govern the same

[4:12:08] way we have for the last 30 years.

[4:12:11] You guys have admitted tonight that

[4:12:14] there hasn't been a problem in our

[4:12:17] communities.

[4:12:19] You made reference to violations

[4:12:23] and

[4:12:25] they're non-existent.

[4:12:28] So if the system is working currently

[4:12:31] the way it's enforced

[4:12:33] for the HOA,

[4:12:36] why would you be opposed as a council

[4:12:40] to this? Now if you want to improve

[4:12:43] citywide

[4:12:46] to extend the 2hour to 24hour whatever

[4:12:50] it may be, then that that's a

[4:12:53] conversation for a different day.

[4:12:56] But we're not asking for special

[4:12:58] treatment. We're asking that you just

[4:13:03] continue to allow us to do what we've

[4:13:05] done for 30 years. And in all honesty,

[4:13:12] it's kept things smooth to where you can

[4:13:15] focus on other areas that might need

[4:13:18] more attention.

[4:13:20] So, I'm kind of trying to understand the

[4:13:23] tugof-war amongst council back and forth

[4:13:27] when the proven track record

[4:13:30] is there to show that we've governed at

[4:13:33] a high

[4:13:35] expectation

[4:13:36] and we follow all the rules. Not that

[4:13:39] code can't come in and do their thing.

[4:13:41] That's not what we're doing. And in the

[4:13:44] letter, it outlines a great relationship

[4:13:47] that we've had I've spoken to Crystal

[4:13:51] several times when she started calling

[4:13:54] in reference to HOAs. Uh whether no

[4:13:58] matter what it is, I support the city

[4:14:00] and everything they do, but at the end

[4:14:03] of the day, it it it's not we're playing

[4:14:07] favorites. It's that if you decide to

[4:14:10] come in and say, "Okay, we're going to

[4:14:13] enforce a 2hour rule." And then now

[4:14:17] you're having a fight with our

[4:14:19] management company that is enforcing 72

[4:14:23] or 48 hours. Now the homeowners not only

[4:14:26] mad at the HOA, they're mad at the city.

[4:14:30] So it it doesn't make any sense that we

[4:14:33] would be against this for the HOA when

[4:14:37] it's already has a proven track record.

[4:14:39] So if you could explain to me why you

[4:14:41] would be against it, I would love to

[4:14:43] hear it.

[4:14:48] Larry, can you hear me?

[4:14:51] >> Hello.

[4:14:54] » Can you hear him?

[4:14:56] >> I can't. Go ahead.

[4:14:59] >> That's not going to work.

[4:15:00] >> Yeah,

[4:15:01] >> he's got to hang up.

[4:15:06] » Yeah, this is going to work.

[4:15:10] » Yeah.

[4:15:19] So Larry, if you're watching, it seems

[4:15:21] we're going to defer this item and go to

[4:15:23] workshop.

[4:15:25] But for me, not living under the the

[4:15:28] benefit or the burden of an HOA. For me,

[4:15:32] it opens the door for more anything goes

[4:15:35] in the Northwest. This is not about

[4:15:38] whether the system has worked behind the

[4:15:41] gate. We're now codifying

[4:15:45] that certain neighborhoods have

[4:15:48] different and less

[4:15:51] restrictive rules than the city code.

[4:15:56] So then how can you tell an ungated

[4:15:59] community that you have a different

[4:16:02] parking rule than a gated community?

[4:16:06] This is this to me this is just not the

[4:16:09] way to go about it. I don't know what

[4:16:12] neighborhood what resident came to the

[4:16:15] sponsor of this item and asked this to go forward. Um

[4:16:23] you know it's just to me it opens the

[4:16:25] door. we go down that slippery slope of

[4:16:28] um if you're not going to enforce your

[4:16:30] code on one side of town,

[4:16:33] don't come try to enforce it against me

[4:16:37] was is my concern.

[4:16:40] If you hear that,

[4:16:43] >> but we're but we have a motion to defer.

[4:16:46] I think we need a second.

[4:16:47] >> Second.

[4:16:48] >> Okay, we have a motion to defer and a

[4:16:50] second. All in favor?

[4:16:53] >> I Any opposed? Okay. With the caveat,

[4:16:55] this needs to go to workshop as well and clarify the uh the information.

[4:17:02] Okay. So, does that take you to the

[4:17:05] non-smoking? Yes. No smoking in a park.

[4:17:07] Tap 32. Tab 32 is the second reading of

[4:17:10] an ordinance of the city council of the

[4:17:12] city of Homestead Florida amending the

[4:17:14] city of Homestead Code of Ordinances by

[4:17:15] creating article 7 smokefree parks of

[4:17:17] chapter 20 parks and recreation to

[4:17:19] prohibit smoking and vaping in city

[4:17:21] parks subject to applicable state law

[4:17:23] limitations providing for related

[4:17:25] definitions prohibition signage and

[4:17:27] enforcement providing for codification

[4:17:29] providing for conflicts providing for

[4:17:30] severability and providing for an

[4:17:31] effective date

[4:17:33] >> thank you it's been moved by vice mayor

[4:17:35] seconded by councilman I think this is

[4:17:38] one we can all agree upon agree upon and

[4:17:40] say why didn't we think of this before

[4:17:44] we didn't know this this loop this

[4:17:46] loophole existed

[4:17:48] so councilwoman anything to add on your

[4:17:52] >> No I think that the uh comments that

[4:17:54] were made at the beginning of our

[4:17:55] meeting were very concise and this is

[4:17:57] obviously for the benefit of our youth

[4:17:58] and uh improving our parks. Thank you.

[4:18:01] >> Thank you. Thank you for bringing it.

[4:18:03] Okay. So, let's have a roll call vote on

[4:18:05] tab 32.

[4:18:07] >> Councilman Ron,

[4:18:08] >> yes.

[4:18:08] >> Councilwoman Avula,

[4:18:10] >> yes.

[4:18:10] >> Councilwoman Ksky,

[4:18:11] >> yes.

[4:18:12] >> Councilman Fletcher,

[4:18:13] >> yes.

[4:18:14] >> Councilman Cannibal,

[4:18:16] >> yes.

[4:18:16] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,

[4:18:17] >> yes.

[4:18:17] >> Mayor Losman,

[4:18:18] >> yes.

[4:18:19] >> The motion cap.

[4:18:21] >> All right,

[4:18:23] let me get back to my agenda page to

[4:18:25] take you guys in the right order of who

[4:18:29] gets to uh

[4:18:31] >> What's that?

[4:18:33] Yes, Mr. Manager.

[4:18:37] Just a quick reminder that tomorrow we

[4:18:40] have the job fair at Fico Williams and

[4:18:43] also tomorrow we have the community

[4:18:45] meeting at the the CRA building for

[4:18:49] Pioneer Village with respect to the

[4:18:52] water and sewer project and to remind

[4:18:55] council that on April 30th we have a

[4:18:57] field trip to the wastewater treatment

[4:18:59] plants so that folks can get familiar

[4:19:02] with the processes and the fact that the

[4:19:04] city of Homestead has stayed with the

[4:19:06] same facility for years even though

[4:19:09] population had more than doubled. So

[4:19:11] it's time for us to realize that it's

[4:19:13] time to upgrade our systems and the

[4:19:15] facilities.

[4:19:17] Uh I think the rest I'm going to convey

[4:19:19] to council through memo to mayor and

[4:19:20] councel as well.

[4:19:23] >> Okay. Thank you Mr. Attorney.

[4:19:27] >> I don't have anything but I just wanted

[4:19:28] to call your attention to this that we

[4:19:30] had the other resolution that I don't

[4:19:32] believe we heard yet. It was an added

[4:19:33] agenda at the beginning. Okay. Yeah, if

[4:19:35] we get that far tonight, I'll do it

[4:19:36] under my business.

[4:19:37] >> Okay. I just didn't want to lose the

[4:19:39] thread. Yes.

[4:19:41] >> Councilwoman Ksky.

[4:19:46] » Couple things. I don't know um how many

[4:19:49] of you have been to the popup DMV at

[4:19:54] Dickinson, but what a pleasure that was.

[4:19:56] No appointment. I was in and out in 20

[4:19:58] minutes. So, um, my tip my hat to, um,

[4:20:03] the tax collector, Fernandez. Um, I also

[4:20:06] want to remind us remind everybody about

[4:20:08] the National Day of Prayer here in the

[4:20:11] chambers at 10:00 a.m.

[4:20:14] and it's May 7th. Thank you. One more

[4:20:18] thing, I was at the League of Cities

[4:20:20] last last week and we were all um

[4:20:24] invited to attend Memorial Day weekend

[4:20:26] at the it's the 2026 uh Hyundai Air and

[4:20:30] Sea Show um at South Beach. So that's

[4:20:34] they they're they've dubbed it the

[4:20:36] greatest show above the earth. That's

[4:20:38] May 23rd and 24th. and um

[4:20:44] quite an array there of demonstration of

[4:20:47] all the military. So, and they're

[4:20:50] expecting quite a turnout. And there is

[4:20:52] also a Patriot display village uh and a

[4:20:55] Saturday night firework and drone show.

[4:20:57] So, thank you.

[4:21:01] >> Hey, thank you, Councilman Roth.

[4:21:04] Council Cannibal, you good? You're good.

[4:21:07] Okay. Councilwoman Avala.

[4:21:10] >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I wanted to um

[4:21:13] give uh props to our parks department

[4:21:15] for your Arbor Day coming up. Um, thanks

[4:21:17] for clarifying that we're not planting

[4:21:19] or no, we're not buying trees. We're

[4:21:20] going to be planting some trees. I look

[4:21:22] forward to that. And um, I want to

[4:21:25] recognize all of the community programs

[4:21:27] that are um, recognizing month of the

[4:21:30] military child and our autistic

[4:21:33] families. We see you and um, we support

[4:21:35] you. And I wanted to get an update about

[4:21:38] our faith-based advisory board advisory

[4:21:41] board. I had requested for that.

[4:21:43] >> I have I have a draft to share with you.

[4:21:45] >> Okay. Thank you.

[4:21:46] >> Which is that?

[4:21:46] >> Our faith-based advisory board. Yes. And

[4:21:49] then um there is the Farm Bureau

[4:21:51] barbecue coming up on Saturday. Please

[4:21:53] go out and promote uh um that is going

[4:21:56] to be at the Deari um distribution

[4:21:59] packing house.

[4:22:01] And um there is a program called uh

[4:22:04] NIFTY NFTT.

[4:22:07] It is a program that provides um summer

[4:22:11] entrepreneurship

[4:22:13] um

[4:22:14] curriculum and it has traditionally been

[4:22:16] held at Miami Dade College. They need a

[4:22:19] new location. They're not going to be

[4:22:20] able to host it this summer. It's a

[4:22:22] program of 40 years and um they meet

[4:22:27] June 15th through July 24th. And so I'm

[4:22:31] seeking help from staff to um try to

[4:22:33] identify a location. So if there's any

[4:22:35] recommendations on where they can meet

[4:22:37] during that time period, but they also

[4:22:38] need access to computers, which is one

[4:22:40] of the resources that the college was

[4:22:42] providing for them. So

[4:22:45] any ideas?

[4:22:48] >> All right. And um I think that's it.

[4:22:52] Thank you.

[4:22:55] >> Okay. Um Councilman Fletcher,

[4:22:57] >> thank you. And again, thank you for the

[4:22:59] reminder for the Farm Bureau barbecue

[4:23:00] this Saturday. Uh just quickly um

[4:23:07] the way I'm not a a social media guy,

[4:23:10] but I have been taking a look at at some

[4:23:13] of the things that we've been doing

[4:23:14] internally uh with with with Nolan uh

[4:23:18] and the police department and some of

[4:23:19] the things that we post at the city. But

[4:23:22] I think we can do much better. Um, if

[4:23:25] you look at the activation of what's

[4:23:28] going on with the F1 race in Miami and

[4:23:31] the the golf tournament that are both

[4:23:33] next weekend, but the way they're going

[4:23:37] about social media and promoting it is

[4:23:39] unbelievable and the followings that

[4:23:41] they're getting and I think we could

[4:23:42] learn a big lesson from that, you know,

[4:23:44] both internally and plus our partners as

[4:23:46] well. So, uh, the way they activate

[4:23:49] different parts of the community is, uh,

[4:23:50] quite interesting. Uh, so something to

[4:23:53] take a look at. I'll be more than happy

[4:23:54] to share my thoughts individually with

[4:23:56] whoever wants to talk about it, but it's it's pretty awesome what they're

[4:23:59] doing and it just it's just showcasing

[4:24:01] Miami in general. We want to showcase

[4:24:03] Homestead. With that, that's it. Thank

[4:24:05] you.

[4:24:05] >> Thank you, sir. Vice Mayor.

[4:24:07] >> Hey, a couple quick things, please. Um,

[4:24:09] at the MLK breakfast, there was a group

[4:24:12] from Everglades Prep that danced called

[4:24:14] Golden and Exquisite. Um, the CRB had

[4:24:18] sponsored a small amount for them to go

[4:24:21] um to do

[4:24:23] the state. They won state right after

[4:24:28] the MLK breakfast and this last weekend

[4:24:30] they just won nationals.

[4:24:33] So, one of our local dance teams, CRB is

[4:24:36] very proud that one of the first groups

[4:24:38] that they um helped sponsor. So,

[4:24:40] Everglades Prep, congratulations to

[4:24:42] them. Golden and Exquisite dance team.

[4:24:45] And speaking of amazing little humans,

[4:24:47] today is Earth Day. I want to give a big

[4:24:50] shout out to pack 69 and troop 78 that

[4:24:55] have been out at some of our local parks

[4:24:57] tonight cleaning up in lie of their

[4:25:00] weekly meeting. I know they were at Lner

[4:25:03] Park just recently. So, thank you

[4:25:06] especially to the leaders. Speaking of

[4:25:08] volunteers that are hard to find, Pack

[4:25:10] 60, PAC 69, Troop 78 has some of the

[4:25:14] most amazing leaders. Thank you guys for

[4:25:17] all your help, your hard work, and for

[4:25:19] helping the earth have better humans to

[4:25:22] inhabit it um through all your guidance

[4:25:25] and and everything that you do for our

[4:25:28] youth. And lastly, congratulations to

[4:25:30] Candela who is Troop 78's newest Eagle

[4:25:34] Scout.

[4:25:35] >> Very good.

[4:25:36] >> So,

[4:25:37] thank you ma'am. That is all.

[4:25:39] >> Okay. Thank you.

[4:25:41] >> One more one more thing. I think you all

[4:25:44] have before you resolution 2026 0453

[4:25:48] that was distributed.

[4:25:50] It loose. It wasn't in the book. This is

[4:25:52] regarding

[4:25:54] um potential solution. Our request to

[4:25:57] the mayor to uh to go back to the way it

[4:26:02] was prior to BRT until they figure it

[4:26:05] out. I'm going to take this take this to

[4:26:08] the TPO tomorrow for action. I

[4:26:12] appreciate your support on that.

[4:26:14] >> I mean,

[4:26:16] >> yeah, they Yeah, we've just got to to

[4:26:19] keep pushing. They respond to bad press.

[4:26:22] So, do we have a motion?

[4:26:24] >> It's been moved and seconded.

[4:26:26] >> Uh, roll call on this resolution.

[4:26:29] >> Councilwoman Avula,

[4:26:30] >> yes. Councilman Roth,

[4:26:33] >> Councilman Fletcher,

[4:26:34] >> yes.

[4:26:34] >> Councilwoman Ksky,

[4:26:35] >> yes.

[4:26:36] >> Councilman Cannibal,

[4:26:37] >> yes.

[4:26:37] >> Vice Mayor Bailey,

[4:26:38] >> yes.

[4:26:39] >> Mayor Lawson,

[4:26:40] >> yes. The motion carries.

[4:26:41] >> Couple other quick things. Just an

[4:26:43] observation that maybe we should do some

[4:26:45] of these workshops immediately following

[4:26:47] the day of prayer here.

[4:26:53] » Yeah. Um,

[4:26:56] thank to all my colle Thank you to all

[4:26:58] my colleagues who uh helped contribute

[4:27:01] to fund the trip of the robotics club

[4:27:04] from South Date High School who will be

[4:27:06] traveling this weekend to a very

[4:27:08] prestigious competition. I think

[4:27:10] Jasmine, our assistant, told us that she

[4:27:12] has a link that you can go on and watch

[4:27:15] them compete and see see what their

[4:27:17] robots and and so forth are

[4:27:20] >> are doing.

[4:27:22] and I've invited them to come do a

[4:27:25] presentation at our May meeting. So,

[4:27:28] we're going to we'll bring the robot,

[4:27:29] recognize these kids, and uh you know,

[4:27:32] before school gets out and come back and

[4:27:36] >> maybe maybe

[4:27:39] um

[4:27:40] that's it. I had another item. I will uh

[4:27:43] defer that until next month. We can get

[4:27:46] a more formal presentation together. So,

[4:27:48] with that, do I have a motion to

[4:27:50] adjurnn?

[4:27:51] >> Moved and second. All in favor?

[4:27:53] >> Opposed. Thank you all. Good night.

Council Meeting 04 22 2026

Transcript