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[0:06]
Good evening everyone. Welcome to the
town of Anuvic committee the whole
[0:09]
meeting. I would just like to
acknowledge the new falls within the
[0:13]
Gwen settlement area adjacent to the
Nubial settlement area home for the Gwen
[0:18]
the Nubial Matei other indigenous people
from throughout the Northwest
[0:23]
Territories in Canada and other people
that have made Anubic their home from
[0:28]
Canada and throughout the world. All of
this makes Anubic a great place to live.
[0:34]
Item number two, adoption of the agenda.
Any changes needed on the agenda?
[0:45]
Seeing none. [clears throat]
Okay. Item number three, decorational
[0:51]
conflict of interest or precinary
interest with any of the agenda items.
[0:57]
Councelor Raymond.
[1:00]
» I don't know.
>> A23.
[1:03]
» A283. All right. Thank you. Any further
conflict or interest or precar interest
[1:12]
being none public question period? I
think we're probably safe on that one.
[1:20]
Item number six, adoption of the minutes
from the June 24th meeting.
[1:29]
Any further changes, corrections needed
on those minutes?
[1:38]
Prime.
[1:42]
Okay.
Any update on any of the action items
[1:49]
other than what is noted? Uh, nope. No
other action on our community plan or
[1:55]
anything associated with that. The
bearware signs, we're looking at our
[1:59]
inventory and looking to post them on
Blue Lake Trails.
[2:04]
Uh just a reminder, infrastructure is
already aware of the watering of the
[2:09]
plants and uh Hannah is currently doing
inventory repair and planning on
[2:15]
repeating.
[2:22]
Item number eight, new business
81
[2:27]
addition request for council decision
2026-050
[2:32]
addition to the human rights policy
HR012
[2:38]
update on what? So we've taken your
feedback into consideration and we have
[2:43]
redone the policy on the student bary
specifically. So it's student and it's
[2:51]
returning students from the summer. So
as uh directed by council last time.
[2:59]
» Any further questions, comments on the
student?
[3:06]
Seeing none
[3:12]
two
conflict of interest
[3:18]
request for council
assuming this decision 2026
[3:24]
051 discretionary use of development
permit 26-09
[3:43]
Who wants to give an update on that?
>> Peter online. So I will.
[3:49]
So the Carmichael or sorry the new
subdivision up top. Um what IRC is
[3:55]
proposing in terms of their development
requires a couple of uh varants. uh it
[4:01]
only takes one vote for the variances.
Um what we are looking at is
[4:07]
uh some zoning questions with regard to
how uh the setback is. Uh that's a a
[4:15]
minor setback. So that's only 10 cmters.
That's not going to be an issue. Uh it's
[4:20]
well within Peter's discretion uh our
development officer's discretion for
[4:25]
that. The other two are a little more uh
specific to the houses themselves. And
[4:32]
one is that they are posing some of the
houses to be manufactured building
[4:37]
components. And similar to what just
happened with GTC when they were
[4:42]
building theirs, we are still having to
work off of the 2015 bylaw, which
[4:48]
doesn't uh recognize manufactured
buildings uh other than trailers. So
[4:56]
what we are proposing is that it is a
discretionary use that it be included
[5:00]
particularly in anticipation of further
development and the fact that we've
[5:04]
already set precedent uh by allowing the
other manufactured homes to be present
[5:10]
in that zone area. So that's the first
one. The second one is more to do with
[5:16]
the size of the homes. And uh again this
is a a smaller home than [clears throat]
[5:21]
you would would normally see in an R1.
and uh recognizing that it would be a
[5:26]
tiny home. Again, it is a discretionary
use for that and um not all of the homes
[5:33]
are going to be that. I believe there's
only four in this
[5:37]
uh subdivision that we would be talking
about and we have already again set
[5:41]
precedent for recognizing tiny homes
when we've approved the uh tiny homes in
[5:48]
the commercial area.
Any
[5:53]
further questions, comments from council
on this?
[5:59]
» We also have people representing that
can answer any of those questions.
[6:04]
Council me,
>> perhaps we could just clarify the size
[6:09]
of soal tiny home because they're not as
small as you might think when you hear
[6:12]
that name.
[6:18]
» Go ahead. Just hit the mic there. That's
the class.
[6:25]
» Thanks, Rod.
>> Thanks, Mayor. Um, only in question, the
[6:31]
one that's being referred to is time
owner homes. Um there also my
[6:37]
understanding by that often
[6:43]
455
[6:48]
will be the style of home.
[6:59]
They're intended for a single occupant,
right? Which is the greatest need for
[7:02]
housing in town. That's correct.
>> Thank you so much.
[7:08]
» Any further questions, comments on 82? I
guess that reached over to A3.
[7:18]
Further questions
any
[7:25]
just on A2 now or we include A3 also
there?
[7:30]
Um A3 has a similar it's the reason why
there's two different ones is um A3
[7:38]
references the development permit 0 2609
and the
[7:48]
83 is development permit 2612. So we had
to do them separately.
[7:54]
» Okay.
>> But it's similar content
[7:57]
» content. Okay.
Okay, then moving to A3. Any further
[8:02]
questions on A3
[8:09]
discretionary use and discretionary
discretionary use?
[8:15]
Yeah.
[8:19]
No further questions from council.
Thank you.
[8:24]
Thanks.
Feel
[8:27]
free to stick around for these exciting
meetings.
[8:32]
That's get council Raymond back. Oh,
>> I'm kind of done. Sorry.
[8:41]
» Mr. Mayor, if I may.
>> Yeah.
[8:45]
» The procedure you vote on it on
Wednesday.
[8:48]
» Um,
>> yeah. So, we will it'll be voted on on
[8:53]
Wednesday.
I don't see any based on what we saw
[8:57]
tonight. I don't see any issues. There's
slight
[9:00]
» clarification.
[9:03]
The actual vote will take and it just
takes one vote. So that question I mean
[9:10]
our new
[9:14]
except this would
>> the button on the side
[9:23]
» we we this wouldn't be an issue
>> correct the reason why we are doing it
[9:28]
is because there is no definition of a
tiny holding rule
[9:36]
» okay thanks
[9:41]
for a request for council decision
2026-27
[9:46]
contribution agreement to build strong
fund community stream funding.
[9:54]
[clears throat]
>> This is more of an administrative
[9:56]
procedure every year. This is annual
funding that comes in. Uh before it used
[10:02]
to be called gas tax, then it was called
CCDF. Now this iteration of it is the
[10:08]
build community strong fund. We have
already incorporated this 1.65 million
[10:14]
into our operating or sorry into our
capital budget planning. Uh this is more
[10:19]
just a motion we need to give to Maka to
say that yes we have accepted it
[10:28]
and anything to do with the contribution
in terms of reporting
[10:34]
and this is again similar motion that we
did with water sewer funding on M
[10:39]
funding and CPI fun.
[10:45]
Any questions, comments from council on
this funding?
[10:50]
It slowly ratchets up. This is some of
the funding that uh we do get more each
[10:56]
year. So, that's good to see that.
Okay. 91 request for council decision.
[11:03]
First reading of bylaw 2771G/26.
[11:10]
This is the amendment to the street
naming and this is coming out of the
[11:15]
street naming committee. Do you want to
give an update?
[11:20]
» So the reason why this street naming is
being proposed actually came from the
[11:24]
emergency services side and it required
clarification on two particular streets.
[11:30]
We have upper bumpus and lower bumpus.
And sometimes when we get a call, we
[11:34]
don't know which way we're going. And 30
seconds trying to decide can have an
[11:38]
impact on an emergency situation. And
same with Carmichael East and Carmichael
[11:44]
West. Again, they're the same numbers
and trying to figure out which side of
[11:50]
the street um the Carmichael subdivision
that we need to go to is confusing. So
[11:57]
the emergency services had requested
this. We brought it to council and we uh
[12:04]
discussed it. They agreed it would be a
good idea. What they are recommending is
[12:09]
because upper bumpus and that hill area
has been referred to as tarmaggan hill.
[12:15]
So they are proposing that upper bumpus
now be called tarmaggan way. And in
[12:20]
terms of centennial it was a little more
complicated. Um, we want to keep the
[12:25]
name and that's what the committee has
recommended is to keep the name, but
[12:29]
it's just going to be called Carmichael
rather than East and West and we're
[12:34]
going to have to reumber
the houses. So, we're consolidating the
[12:40]
name and the actual physical location is
going to be reumbered.
[12:47]
question comments from council and on
either of that
[12:52]
councelor bear
>> uh were residents of upper upper bas
[12:57]
consulted or spoken to with regards to
the game that's being selected.
[13:02]
» So this is actually going to be part of
the consultation process when we have to
[13:06]
go through this. So if it goes through
first reading on Wednesday then we have
[13:10]
30 days we do a public consultation much
like we did with Jack and then that will
[13:16]
give people their input uh opportunity
to have input uh into the name if they
[13:21]
agree disagree what other alternatives
there are and then once we if the public
[13:29]
consultation there's no significant
opposition to it then we proceed the
[13:33]
second agreement. So yes, there is an
option.
[13:39]
» Any further questions, comments on the
street renaming?
[13:44]
Seeing none.
[13:49]
Next item number 10, departmental
updates. We have 10 one protective
[13:53]
services.
Mr. Armen missed with him to come to the
[13:58]
last one and
>> the birthday boy decided he could give
[14:04]
it tonight. So
>> everybody to give him a happy birthday.
[14:07]
» Yeah, that's it. I actually didn't know
when I requested this and I was like,
[14:11]
"Oh no, what am I going to end to
myself?" But
[14:13]
» anyway, happy birthday.
>> Thank you.
[14:15]
» I'm here to give you a report.
>> All right. Um,
[14:20]
so yeah, I had to I had to run out uh
last week just because we were doing
[14:23]
Thank you for the approval on the movie
guidelines and mutual aid agreement. Um,
[14:27]
but uh we we had a big uh wildland
interface exercise last week as well. Uh
[14:33]
so just some updated stats. It was I
don't want to say the ether I'm about to
[14:37]
go on vacation but lower this past
month. Uh we have a few highprofile uh
[14:42]
incidents. uh there was an emergency out
at the airport that we've worked with a
[14:46]
number of different partners on uh that
one. Um we just put out some guidances
[14:50]
to
businesses that they operate radio mass
[14:54]
as well. Um it basically still kind of
hangs out there mostly alarm calls. We
[15:01]
seen a this distinct decrease in uh
false alarms which has been great. Um
[15:08]
we do want to find out if it's if it's
just taking their alarms offline. I
[15:12]
don't think that some of the bigger ones
have, but it seems like it might be just
[15:14]
based on some of the policies that
people invoicing. That's what I'm
[15:17]
hoping. That's what I'm trusting based
on our discussions with some of the
[15:20]
landlords. Um, so that's looking really
good. Um, and then just the the usual
[15:25]
kind of spread of incidents as well. So,
um, any questions around fire responses?
[15:34]
» All municipal enforcement. Uh, same
thing, just regular call volumes.
[15:40]
animals continue to be one of our big
ones. Uh we've done lots of
[15:44]
interventions particularly around safety
patrols um and helmets uh with kids on
[15:49]
their bikes. I'll go more into that in
my quality report as well. Um a little
[15:53]
bit more granularity to the the types of
responses. We try not to put too many
[15:57]
details some positive ticket because
we're not going to see results and we
[16:03]
don't want uh is the important part in
my opinion our quality update. Um so
[16:09]
we've spent a lot of time over the last
month on wildfire and emergency
[16:13]
preparedness. Um as we see the other
activity in the northwest territories
[16:16]
right now um has potential to uh uh get
up and and really really really serious
[16:21]
really really quickly. Um so we spent a
lot of time working on our pre-planning
[16:26]
uh working with partners including the
ECC uh regional hospital uh health and
[16:32]
social services gas uh all sorts of
different places just to make sure that
[16:36]
critical infrastructure in particular is
uh well protected uh and that all of our
[16:40]
systems can be deployed all at once. Um
so throughout the month we kind of
[16:44]
scaled things up through June uh trained
with engine operations critical
[16:48]
infrastructure protection just to put
the clea into place and then other
[16:51]
spritler system setups and then last
Wednesday we ran a an exercise on that
[16:56]
but doing everything simultaneously uh
it went really well uh as we were hoping
[17:02]
um we had everything set up on our
critical infrastructure uh which is the
[17:05]
ones we've identified as the hospital
the water uh reservoirs uh and the past
[17:10]
like the the propane air storage system
at on Navy Road. We had everything set
[17:14]
up and running in about an hour and a
half from
[17:18]
go. So all the equipment collated in
storage and then put out with our
[17:22]
pre-plans in place. Um we acquired some
new equipment. Uh you kind of see in the
[17:26]
bottom right hand corner. Um that's
through our buoy program for this year.
[17:30]
One of the things we concentrated on is
modulization and transportation so that
[17:33]
we can get things out
single location. We want to be able to
[17:38]
divide and conquer and then put out a
few skilled firefighters with different
[17:42]
crews of varying levels of of skills and
ability including uh businesses,
[17:47]
governments, and other partners uh to be
able to set up a lot of the systems. Um
[17:51]
in the bottom right, that's kind of some
of the equipment for palletization
[17:54]
modularization. But we've been able to
put together a package that's a type
[17:58]
three sprinkler structural protection
unit as it's called. uh it's palletized
[18:02]
it onto uh small plane individual trucks
all sorts of different permutations for
[18:07]
invic and then elsewhere as well but
mainly NIC um we've been expanding our
[18:12]
capabilities on our sprinkler systems as
well um just to ensure that we have
[18:15]
enough sprinkler heads and we're
relatively independent on that too um
[18:19]
ECC has gotten a type two sprinkler
trailer up here which is a bit bigger
[18:23]
but uh we want to make sure that we are
self-sufficient as well I think that's
[18:27]
an important thing as a municipality
especially a larger municipality where
[18:30]
we're quite disconnected and from the
other other regions. Um so that went
[18:34]
really well. Our pre-plans are now
entered into a number of different
[18:37]
databases. Um right now all of our
respondents can access it through our
[18:42]
main uh catis. We'll go back to 911. It
brings up specific locations and then
[18:47]
they can click on each one. gives a
detailed inventory list, all the
[18:50]
specific items they need to set up uh a
system at that location and then uh a
[18:55]
further dialed down map in Google Earth
um that just tells them where to put out
[19:00]
everything as well. So, lots of good
information there. We made sure that we
[19:04]
had to run all the pumps simultaneously,
everything is working
[19:08]
so we can put something. So, we're happy
about that. Uh it's a lot of work, a lot
[19:12]
of preparation for that. Um but we're
pretty confident in our plan. Um, we
[19:16]
haven't finalized our wild interface
plan. We're going to be revisiting the
[19:19]
whole BCC in the fall. We have a draft
one right now. It's basically just a
[19:23]
living document, so it's always getting
updated. Um, this our current plan
[19:27]
effectively takes into consideration all
our new plans. Um, it goes into Google
[19:31]
Earth and then within our CAD system as
well. So, basically everything is is
[19:35]
included there including storage. You
may notice in the back that we dropped
[19:38]
some gravel in the back, made a pad
there. We've brought in some CC cans
[19:41]
from our training yard and that's going
to have a lot of our storage for
[19:44]
equipment too because it's getting we're
getting more than we can put put into a
[19:47]
single trailer. So just having more
storage capacity is pretty big for us as
[19:50]
well. We're going to kind of turn that
to uh the fire department corner down
[19:53]
there. Uh just store a trailer there.
Other items so neat everything up and
[19:58]
back basically. Um so that was pretty
good. We're really happy with that. You
[20:03]
can see in the the middle picture there
that's just the preparation. Basically
[20:06]
we pull the trailer up the cands and
then everything gets offloaded
[20:09]
palletized and sent into individual
trusty board. Um on we we participate in
[20:15]
emergency management tabletop exercise
as well during AD. Um it was mainly
[20:19]
discussions and review of our emergency
plan itself. Uh going over some details
[20:23]
with that working with other partners in
a number of different scenarios that we
[20:26]
could experience including mainly
concentrating on weather events uh in
[20:30]
the winter. Um we rolled out our
emergency management app. It's been
[20:33]
active and available uh but then now
it's part directedly linked through the
[20:37]
town of Anubic app which was just
publicly rolled out in the past week. Um
[20:41]
we we're going to use as an independent
app where we can push out local
[20:44]
messaging to uh residents uh in case of
an emergency. We're not relying on GWT
[20:50]
or other government partners to put out
messaging and we can speak to citizens
[20:54]
directly with that too. Um we've been
spending a lot of time on seasonal
[20:58]
maintenance. uh our annual hose test
when we finished all our 4 in supply
[21:01]
line. We've detected about we did about
3200 ft of that one length at a time. Uh
[21:06]
moving on to our our attack lines. Um
we've been starting hydrant flow
[21:11]
testing. We're working with
infrastructure like time infrastructure
[21:14]
with that as well. Uh just getting some
key data on some critical hydrants
[21:18]
throughout uh town. Uh mainly kind of
concentrating on industrial areas and
[21:22]
kind of junction points right now just
to know exactly what we're flowing at
[21:26]
those different ones. Uh and then we
have our EP, our emergency vehicle
[21:29]
technician is going to be coming up from
White Horse. Uh his ironically enough,
[21:33]
his truck is in trouble. Uh so we're
that to be repaired and then he'll be up
[21:37]
and working with our staff to do our
pump testing and our regular apparatus
[21:41]
testing as well. Uh so it's been pretty
busy. We've been involved with Canada
[21:45]
Day as well. We ran a barbecue with
that. You see the crew up at the top
[21:47]
right there. Um and we put up the the
giant Canada flag on Kenzie. Um and uh
[21:54]
yeah, really good time doing that. Uh
weather was maybe not the best, but it
[21:58]
was it was great. We had a good time.
Any questions about
[22:06]
» um great. So we ran through the
municipal enforcement. We ran our bike
[22:09]
ready at the start of the month. Uh and
then that segued into our helmet drive
[22:12]
as well. Uh so we covered every single
class within East 3 Elementary. Um they
[22:17]
learned about bike safeties, hand
signals, wearing their helmets, all
[22:20]
sorts of things just around bicycles. We
had the RCMP participate with us as well
[22:23]
on that. Uh and it's another successful
year of that. Um every single kid that
[22:28]
participated in that got a bike helmet.
Uh we ordered more because we ran out.
[22:31]
Um so we got more and then we started a
donation campaign as well. So we put it
[22:35]
out on public Facebook groups for
tourists coming up from driving the
[22:39]
damster. But if they come by the fire
hall, we can we'll trade them for a
[22:42]
patch, a photo op, and if they give us a
helmet. So our first people came in
[22:46]
immediately after they see in the top
right. Uh came by with a couple of
[22:49]
helmets. Um and they got their photo op
and they got some patches. So they were
[22:53]
super friendly. We've had a few more
roll in through that and we're just
[22:55]
going to keep on doing that because it
seems to be somewhat successful. Uh
[22:58]
we've also started again our positive
ticketing campaign. So you can see our
[23:01]
first advertisement for that. We went
and got ourselves some uh some slushies
[23:04]
ourselves. Um we uh have been handing
out whenever we can. We're making a
[23:09]
point of pulling over every single kid
we can see on the roads. We're doing our
[23:12]
fire trucks. We're doing the municipal
enforcement. Basically everybody has a
[23:15]
stack of coupons to get. Um we started
to get kids just coming into the the
[23:19]
days. Uh but that's kind of not the
direction we want to go with that. um
[23:22]
you don't go to the RCMP asking for a
medication. So um it's been pretty good.
[23:27]
Kids are know knowing know about it.
We're spreading the word as much as we
[23:31]
can and really really push it. We're
carrying around helmets in the trucks as
[23:34]
well so we can give them out if we see
kids on their own. Uh one of the obvious
[23:38]
ones we we we try to target kids if
there's one kid wearing a helmet. Um
[23:41]
pull them over, give them a ticket in
front of everybody else and then if they
[23:45]
go to the fire hall to get more or they
fit in one of the helmets we have.
[23:49]
So, um, we've been having a lot of fun
with that. Kids are really enjoying it.
[23:53]
We just want to keep kids safe and
wearing helmets everywhere. Um, we've
[23:57]
also been doing a lot of enforcement
around ATDs. Uh, so we've created a new
[24:00]
like ATV intervention law specifically
for ATDs, especially around helmets,
[24:04]
safety, uh, and speeding. Um, different
types of helmets that obviously we're
[24:08]
not giving those ones up because they're
a lot more expensive, but we're trying
[24:10]
to get kids especially into them. Uh,
provided they're following the law. We
[24:14]
don't do licensing for ATVs. That's not
the Department of Motor Vehicles. Um but
[24:19]
uh so we're limited in terms of the
access we can get in terms of licensing
[24:22]
and things like that. Um but uh this has
been one of our pushes. Um and again the
[24:27]
candy bar all our staff participate in
that municipal enforcement and they were
[24:30]
there mainly running the route on this
one as well. Fire trucks get all the
[24:34]
glory going in the parade itself but
enforcement makes it happen roadblocking
[24:40]
around it. um along with all my stuff.
Um any questions around?
[24:47]
» Oh, one big thing, a huge thing, 20 plus
dogs rehomed from last month. Um there's
[24:52]
one place in particular we really
concentrate enforcement on that. Um we
[24:56]
didn't need to go under the dog act to
do any seizures or anything else with
[25:01]
that. Uh we were able to rehome 12
puppies all at once through artic which
[25:06]
was really good. Um and they all left
with the the red clinical as well. Um
[25:12]
but it's been a quite a few uh animals
done as well. Um but yeah, lots lots of
[25:19]
really good work from our staff around
that just because that's
[25:24]
» just Brian on that.
>> Yeah.
[25:26]
» Will that household then not be
producing more puppies?
[25:31]
» That is the hope. Um, we can't control
the dogs themselves, right? Um, we
[25:38]
obviously make sure that they're within
the confines. Three dogs, that's the
[25:40]
maximum. So, um, that's what we're
holding them to. Um, from my
[25:44]
understanding, it's just males there
right now. Um, I might be wrong, but
[25:49]
it's just one. That's the idea. We
offered to cover uh, neutering or I
[25:54]
think it's feas.
We offered to cover things. Uh, they
[25:59]
elected not to take us up on that. we're
still going to offer on the planet and
[26:03]
we try to make that happen and we're
going to stay on top of this particular
[26:06]
location for enforcement action as well.
Um it came down to a bit of negotiation,
[26:10]
bit of leverage through fines and some
of the directions we could go with this.
[26:15]
It's a kind of a tricky territory to
navigate as well. Um because if
[26:19]
somebody's lying just number of dogs, we
can't get into a building. We're limited
[26:22]
in our powers to uh we can't go and get
a search. It's very difficult for us to
[26:27]
do that. We have to work within the Com
Dog Act. Um, so there's a bit of a
[26:32]
balance. We've had some neighbors that
we have been working with all along that
[26:36]
street, not just anyone in particular.
Um, and they've been really good
[26:42]
just expressing their concerns.
[26:46]
We don't expect it to get out of control
again, but we are going to be staying on
[26:50]
pretty
[27:02]
[laughter]
>> comments.
[27:05]
» Thanks for letting me ride the fire
truck in Canada.
[27:10]
» [laughter]
>> I should say if you see the bay doors
[27:13]
open, we're trying to keep the bay doors
open as much as possible during the day,
[27:15]
especially with good weather. Uh we want
to encourage people come by, take a poke
[27:18]
in and especially tourists, uh
especially residents, everybody. Um it's
[27:22]
been really good to do that because they
get to use the staff. I guess they say
[27:25]
running through the building and we're
trying to we try to concentrate on
[27:27]
Fridays in particular, uh open bait on
Fridays. So just to keep that available
[27:33]
[clears throat] big push res.
>> Good. Thanks. Any further questions,
[27:38]
comments for Brian? Councelor Gillis.
>> Um, Brian, that fire break that was up
[27:43]
there, like I think I remember reading
that there was supposed to be some trees
[27:48]
left or like
>> Oh, we stopped. So, what happened on
[27:51]
that one? Um, we have a number of
different boundaries. So, we call them
[27:54]
it's boundary A B CDE E F. Um, on
Centennial, they had started to clear
[27:59]
cut. We were we thought they had stopped
uh while we were doing the inspection.
[28:04]
Um, and then I noticed it grabbed a few
more meters. So, we put a stopped to it
[28:08]
right away. Um, it's not supposed to be
clearcut in that spot. It's supposed to
[28:11]
be crown spacing within there. So, we
had a meeting with the contractor uh
[28:14]
just to discuss it in detail about what
the requirements are on that. So, the
[28:18]
whole area uh in between founded by
Bonus and the bypass and then uh uh
[28:24]
Wolverine and the bypass or no sort of
the other way. Um Bus and White pretty
[28:27]
much um that whole area is just supposed
to be ground spacing. They are well
[28:32]
aware of that right now. Uh and that's
all the crown space is basically just
[28:35]
taking out the coniferous trees and they
pick one and then five meters radius and
[28:40]
then take out everything in between
there and basically five meters crown
[28:44]
space it
>> I thought what I was seeing up there
[28:47]
» they did now
>> have they done it
[28:49]
» yeah just in the last
>> they start on that part
[28:52]
» I just noticed it in one section so
>> on some areas it's supposed to be
[28:55]
clearcut like around long road rightways
um that's specifically clear cutting so
[29:00]
along the bypass itself around the
reservoir for a certain section. They've
[29:04]
done that. Um trying to think of the
other areas that block we thought. So
[29:09]
when I first saw it, I thought they were
just creeping around the corner there
[29:12]
and that's where we had it. We had to
kind of redesign the map just to create
[29:15]
so we didn't damage and like not damage
take down community spaces. Um so yeah,
[29:21]
as soon as we as soon as we realized
what was happening there, we Daniel and
[29:23]
I both intervened with the contract just
to make sure. But 100% they are just
[29:28]
doing trans spacing. That's all they're
doing in behind there. And I we made
[29:31]
sure that they're going to leave a
buffer zone as well because I know that
[29:34]
was one of the uh concerns from citizens
around the the salt dust like the the
[29:39]
solar farm there. Um but there's no
trees in front of me to see everything.
[29:42]
So we've asked them to create a good 10
meters at least and just leave all the
[29:47]
the vegetation there. Um and with the
crown space and they're not removing any
[29:50]
deciduous trees with that as well get
some of the undergrowth. But it's the
[29:54]
commit versus what our concern is. Uh
those are the ones that really fuel.
[29:58]
So, um that's the the idea. But yeah, um
they will be doing a bit of along the
[30:05]
rightway like the uh the access like the
utility rightway going into a reservoir
[30:10]
because the one side has the road on it.
And so we're going to get them to do
[30:12]
similar clear cutting for 10 m space on
the other side of that east side. Um and
[30:18]
they'll go along there just to protect
the main line
[30:23]
infrastructure really really need
[30:30]
questions comments.
All right. Thanks Ryan. Enjoy the rest
[30:34]
of your birthday.
[30:42]
[clears throat]
>> Item number 11 information items.
[30:47]
got just a couple of information items.
There's a meeting
[30:52]
tomorrow at 1:30 with the McKenzie
Valley
[30:58]
um consultation Mackenzie Valley highway
consultation team uh meeting in helpful
[31:04]
chambers, right?
>> Correct.
[31:06]
» Yeah. So, any counselors want to attend
that meeting? Um we just got contacted
[31:13]
by them last week. They're also, I
think, doing a public meeting tomorrow
[31:17]
night, but they uh did book a meeting
with us at 1:30 tomorrow. They have uh a
[31:25]
couple of presentations and it's all
moving moving this Mackenzie Valley
[31:29]
highway project
um as quick as as quick as they can.
[31:35]
We'll certainly be asking questions like
are they starting from both ends? When
[31:40]
when are we looking at starting that?
you know when when will they have
[31:45]
completed the environmental review just
to get whatever information we can.
[31:49]
Council me
>> unfortunately I can't attend the meeting
[31:52]
with council tomorrow but do you know
where and when the public meeting is
[31:56]
tomorrow evening?
>> I haven't seen it advertised.
[31:59]
» I saw it advertised in but I haven't
seen uh I haven't seen yet. So I can
[32:05]
send them an email and ask them.
>> Thank you.
[32:09]
» Yeah.
[32:14]
Go ahead,
>> Derek. Dingle at
[32:17]
» Dingle Mo.
>> Oh, you know what?
[32:20]
» I think I did see that. Yeah. Five D
hall. Okay. Thanks.
[32:28]
And then the second information item,
uh, July 14th, and I think now it's
[32:36]
5:30.
>> 5:30 to 7.
[32:39]
» 5:30 to 7. the parliamentary committee
on Department of National Defense. Uh
[32:46]
we're meeting with them and that will be
in the community lounge at the complex
[32:52]
upstairs and we're just trying to find
out whether that'll be a dinner meeting
[32:57]
given given the time that the meeting
initially was 5 to 6:30. Now they've
[33:02]
bumped it a half an hour so it'll be
5:30 to 7.
[33:06]
And the parliamentary committee on DMD
is I think it's all um regular members
[33:15]
not or it's not the ministers and what
they do is provide feedback. So Sydney
[33:23]
and I will definitely be attending
talking about the development of the FO
[33:28]
site. uh the 5 billion DND is looking at
spending and what we're doing in order
[33:34]
to try to work with them on uh whether
they want to do housing for
[33:41]
housing um and things like the
recreation and anything else that's you
[33:48]
know town related. Um and then in the
bigger picture looking at what what can
[33:56]
be done to ensure that much employment
is is local. We we understand that you
[34:02]
know people building large steel
hangers. Um probably have to come from
[34:06]
the outside. We don't have skilled
workers here sitting around looking for
[34:10]
work but there's lots of other work
civil work electrical work mechanical
[34:14]
work that can be done by contractors. So
we're hoping that they fill the 5%
[34:22]
and more
they have identified.
[34:27]
Those are the two information items I
have.
[34:31]
[clears throat]
Any further?
[34:37]
» Okay. Council concerns
councel.
[34:41]
» So that it doesn't fall on us. It's
definitely govern territories. Do we
[34:45]
have any update on the Steel River
Berry?
[34:48]
» Well,
they did rescue it yesterday and they
[34:51]
got it back to the ferry landing. I
don't know. Councelor Wayman, have you
[34:55]
heard anything?
>> No, I heard there's no cable. Maybe
[34:59]
there's no confirmation on it.
>> No cable.
[35:03]
» I heard there is. So, be another day. At
least it be tomorrow sometime. But but
[35:10]
when the water levels are still high
water levels high they can't go anywhere
[35:14]
» right
>> how far did it get on it journey to
[35:19]
» almost almost
[35:24]
had to pull it back luckily they had a
boat there that could do it otherwise
[35:30]
been in trouble
[35:34]
» keep tourism high
>> so combination of high water the table
[35:39]
snapped and it got loose. I don't I
don't know. I thought normally they had
[35:44]
a break on there, but anyway, they got
it back.
[35:49]
Okay. Any further information or
concerns? Councelor Barrett.
[35:56]
» Um I can continue to hear uh comments
from community members. We don't have
[36:00]
our life jacket loaner stations out and
operational yet, including a comment
[36:04]
that I got even today. Such a priority
to get that out there. We've got the
[36:08]
supplies. We've got the the setup.
Should be easy breezy. If we can just
[36:13]
prioritize and have that out as soon as
possible, that would be wonderful.
[36:19]
» Yeah, I know. Daniel, do you have an
update on that? I know they were working
[36:23]
on the stand that had to be rebuilt.
Anything further on the life jacket?
[36:29]
» I can speak to that. I'll ask you about
it. Um, so lifeguards are currently
[36:34]
taking inventory of the jackets and one
station is undergoing repairs. Uh,
[36:38]
they're usually set to go first week of
July and should be on track for that. So
[36:43]
they're just completing the inventory.
[36:50]
» So definitely should be out this week
hopefully tomorrow.
[36:54]
» Any further council concerns? Councelor
Gillis. [clears throat]
[36:59]
Um, those two dips on Main Street on
McKenzie
[37:04]
are how long do we have to live with
them? Like that one in front of the
[37:08]
church is brutal and then the one in
front of the other church is brutal.
[37:17]
» Probably the two people that are
responsible for that are both sitting
[37:21]
here. So we got a good answer on both
accounts. Daniel
[37:30]
So the one I actually don't know the one
in front of church I feel I don't drive
[37:35]
you don't you don't private
>> yeah I don't drive that way I can't
[37:40]
don't know the one on that but I'll take
a look at it this evening um the one in
[37:45]
front of the church though they have
attempted repairing that uh
[37:51]
right now well they installed the cold
mix it failed they did it again with a
[37:58]
heavier equipment. Same thing. So, right
now, the current thought is that the
[38:02]
cold mix is probably contaminated. Uh
so, the the current conversation we're
[38:07]
having with the contractor is to dig it
all out. Um
[38:11]
and
we're going to put a little bit of
[38:14]
gravel and then the coal mix again and
and see where it goes from there. But
[38:18]
yes, um we we definitely have that on
the work plan. They did it, but it
[38:23]
failed. So, and they're going to go back
out there to dig it out and attempt the
[38:27]
better repair. But I I really don't know
about I don't know the talking about
[38:38]
» what about right outside the IRC
building where they
[38:44]
» Yes, the bridge. Yes. Uh so we had that
I had that conversation with the
[38:47]
engineers um because it was part of that
project. So they were working on the
[38:52]
efficiencies to try to finish that off.
Um
[38:57]
the idea will be to have the concrete
done first and then the and then the
[39:02]
paving or the cold mix. I would say it's
it's the same cold mix with material we
[39:05]
have. We bought four truck loads last
year. So if you failed with the small
[39:09]
patch we just did. We need to figure out
and see that we can actually use the
[39:13]
material we have um before we then do a
bigger a bigger repair. But in my my
[39:19]
thoughts, I will probably go with the
concrete sidewalk first um on that one
[39:24]
for the bridge and then after afterwards
we'll take a look at the the actual
[39:31]
» contractor.
[39:36]
The one in front of the church was
really nice and it went 27 above and
[39:40]
they laid the cold mix on and it was a
little hot and then it rained torrential
[39:48]
rains and it went a little soft. We got
a leak somewhere there. It's as you see
[39:52]
it's sinking again.
>> Yeah.
[39:54]
» I don't understand what's going on. Like
really it was uh very solid, very set
[39:58]
up. We'll strip it out again.
um repack it and put a 2in lifted cold
[40:06]
mix on it. Not sure if the contaminated
cold mix is an issue. I think the heat
[40:11]
had a bigger issue. It was 30 and above
and it uh just brought the oils right to
[40:16]
the top. Never seen that. So, I don't
know if it's
[40:20]
contaminated material or the new oil
that they changed because of the vio
[40:24]
stuff that's going on. I don't know. And
the one at the church down there, I
[40:29]
don't we'll go look at that. It is a dip
is failing there too. So that could be a
[40:33]
culprit issue again. And uh the one at
the IRC I was waiting to hear if they're
[40:39]
going to do the concrete and then we'll
fix we graded up at the loaders a bit.
[40:44]
But the one at the church is a big
anomaly because it was 110%
[40:49]
compactor.
It's still failing right now. It's
[40:52]
failing again.
>> It stops going down. It almost seemed
[40:54]
like it like once you had the top good
for a day and it almost seemed like
[40:59]
hours. We actually went through the
collard again because we thought maybe
[41:02]
separated but it's good.
>> So we got
[41:08]
the answer it out again and try it
again. But it seems to me like the whole
[41:12]
road sinking though. If you look at it,
it used to be level. Now it looks like
[41:15]
it's going like this.
>> So
[41:19]
I don't know course it again. Try it
again and you guys can uh
[41:28]
» that's frustrating. I mean, the good
thing about it, it does slow traffic
[41:31]
down.
>> I I honestly think the heat was the
[41:33]
biggest issue because it was so hot. It
was really hot when we left it to set up
[41:37]
and it just got worse.
[41:41]
» I mean, I don't know much about it, but
if you have it in weather temperature
[41:46]
good, does it set better and then not
feel in hot weather?
[41:49]
» It's not as hot. It sets better. Yeah.
Yeah. When it's hot, it brings up this
[41:54]
I don't know if this new oil they got in
there is really weird. We're used to
[41:57]
cold mix being a little harder. This
stuff's a lot softer.
[42:04]
» So, does that like change the budget or
does it increase the budget or what does
[42:09]
that look like? Because whose fault is
that?
[42:13]
How does it work?
>> So, that's it's not in the capital. This
[42:17]
is not a capital project. It's in the O
andM. Um, so we do have a budget line
[42:22]
for gravel road repair and uh for road
repairs generally. So that's where that
[42:28]
would come out of. So they currently
they worked three days out there right
[42:32]
now to get that done and then if they so
I I actually mentioned it to the
[42:37]
contractor when I spoke to him on the
weekend. I said we're going to have to
[42:40]
account for the material that we've used
and I mentioned it to the SEO as well.
[42:45]
Um but he he did they did say we could
potentially use that material for
[42:50]
something else so it won't be waste uh
in terms of that material but in terms
[42:55]
of the actual work to get it done again
we would have to speak to them and work
[42:59]
out solution that works for everybody
[43:04]
thanks Daniel any other council concerns
>> you might want to stay there [laughter]
[43:11]
» no I've heard there's certain rumors
going on in the business community right
[43:15]
now and I don't know enough about it I
wanted to bring it and The first one is
[43:20]
um there's an issue going on which we're
doing
[43:24]
as far as the material provided.
So I had a detailed conversation with PS
[43:31]
about this earlier today. Um
the inventory was completed and
[43:36]
everything was with all that was with
all that was supplied. They wanted to
[43:40]
start assembling and there was an issue
with dimension. So um the
[43:49]
so the dimension of the drawings that
was sent to the contractor that supplied
[43:53]
all the material asked for 6,000 mm
right and that's what they supplied.
[43:59]
Okay.
>> So um when the contractor went to site
[44:04]
it's about 5,000 it's about 600 mm short
or off. So the drawings and the reality
[44:13]
there's a basically this about 600 mm
difference right? So uh and then we're
[44:18]
just trying to work out okay so how do
they build this structure it's going to
[44:21]
be a little bit bigger than the existing
foundation and what's the solution out
[44:24]
there do we have to cut this material to
fit or do we uh build something extra to
[44:32]
make it fit at the size it's already
been produced at. So, it's not uh
[44:36]
there's no
it's a breakout like every other
[44:41]
construction.
You get there, there's always something,
[44:44]
you have an RFI, you deal with it, you
move on. There's no issues. I wouldn't
[44:48]
call it an issue. It's just like every
other construction project we have out
[44:52]
there.
>> Yeah. Okay. No, that's clear on that. Um
[44:56]
and and so the inventory was done and
what was provided was spent.
[45:01]
» Yeah. So then now the drawings come out
and just something
[45:05]
» yeah just yeah the dimension of that
particular structural structural um
[45:09]
member was a little bit off but the
inventory was done by the contractor and
[45:14]
the engineers in terms of all the
materials that was provided and they
[45:17]
were all happy but then they got to
start building and then they noticed oh
[45:22]
this this is 600 mm off and then we
looked at I was here on Saturday I was
[45:27]
here on Saturday I reviewed the drawing
the shop drawing
[45:30]
uh the the item list itself just look at
where the error came from they provided
[45:35]
what they were told to provide
>> so where did the come from
[45:39]
» the draw
the drawings I I don't want to say the
[45:43]
drawings but ultimately the dimension on
the drawings uh was a little bit off
[45:48]
that's
>> so so the drawings were done by a
[45:52]
» yes
>> okay just to be clear 600 is here 60
[45:57]
would be here right
>> 600 mm is
[46:00]
» yeah 600 mm
>> is 2/3 of a meter.
[46:05]
» Yeah,
>> there's a thousand millimeters
[46:09]
or 100 cm in a meter.
>> So 600 millimeters would be
[46:15]
» 2/3 of a meter. Yeah,
>> not not this one. This one.
[46:20]
» Yeah. Oh, this is okay.
>> I just want to make clear that it was
[46:25]
600 and not six. Well, I guess in the
end is the again the financials. What's
[46:31]
going to happen? Yes, it's going to be
RFI. Yes, you usually incur costs that
[46:38]
come out and so
I mean you got to just help if it's a
[46:44]
big deal. If there's somebody down that
ball or if you know what I mean,
[46:48]
somebody could take some sort of of
not blame but somebody's got to be
[46:56]
costing the taxers a whole bunch of
[47:00]
extra money then we don't just look the
other way.
[47:03]
Um I just want that slip though. People
in the business community are talking
[47:09]
right now. There's a couple of projects.
Um, and I just want to say, look, before
[47:14]
we do anything, let's just get the
proper information.
[47:16]
» Yeah. No, like I said, I was here on the
weekend. I was here on Saturday. I
[47:19]
discussed this in detail with the SEO
earlier today. Um, printed out all the
[47:24]
drawings, printed out all the shop
drawings, all of that stuff. Sat down
[47:27]
here trying to figure out where the
miscommunication could have come from.
[47:32]
Um, and it's just that I wasn't I mean,
and that's not an excuse, but I wasn't
[47:36]
here when the when this drawing was
generated. This has been on the books
[47:40]
four, five years ago. The drawings are
already so I don't even know if the
[47:43]
engineers may decide to visit or not.
But the drawings were made. There was
[47:47]
that dimension on the drawing and that
was what was sent. That was what was
[47:51]
standard
>> and that was what the material was built
[47:54]
to.
>> So, but of course there's a little bit
[47:57]
of a dimension error there. Um, we just
need to figure out how to how to rectify
[48:03]
that on site now that we're on site.
It's construction.
[48:07]
Daniel, can you by Wednesday let us know
what the mitigation was on the 600
[48:13]
millimeters and whether that is going to
be an additional cost?
[48:16]
» Right now the the I the last call I did
I had before before the end of day today
[48:21]
was with the contractor and he's
currently thinking to just cut it. That
[48:24]
that's the easier option to cut it and
then they just have um a cold cold
[48:29]
galvanized um
cold galvanizing done on the cut edge.
[48:34]
» Okay. and then he just installs it on on
side. But yeah, we had discussed like
[48:38]
three different options of how to which
like I said it's
[48:42]
» every construction project goes through
RFIs and which like you guys are all
[48:47]
aware of
and and it's just a normal part of uh
[48:53]
construction.
Thank you.
[48:55]
» Sorry if I can just so to clarify to
answer your question,
[49:00]
what was sent out in the tender and
specs is what was delivered.
[49:04]
» Yes.
>> Correct.
[49:05]
» Yes.
>> Okay.
[49:07]
» So hopefully that'll clarify.
>> Yeah. No, I just there's a bridge
[49:10]
somewhere. There's a gap somewhere in
that. I mean, you know what I'm saying?
[49:14]
And if it's not that big a deal, then
that's just what I wanted to clarify by
[49:19]
asking about it.
If it's a minor inconvenience for the
[49:23]
construction and there's money in the
contingency, we'll also be it. But if
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it's a bigger deal and we're sugar coing
it, then I don't
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this is actually I mean I showed I
shared all the emails back and forth
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with the essay today um that was sent
back and forth with the contractor with
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the engineers and all that. So um
it's
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it's part of
>> Okay, thanks Daniel.
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» Item number
13
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in camera item. We just need a motion to
go to camera. Moved by councelor Romero,
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second by councelor Parent. All in
favor?