[0:05] members. Good morning. I'm

[0:09] calling together the

[0:09] transportation Energy

[0:10] Utilities Committee meeting

[0:13] for Tuesday, SEPTEMBER. 1st,

[0:15] it is now 9 o'clock. We'll

[0:15] begin with introductions from

[0:19] my left. Steven Levy Council

[0:19] research.

[0:21] >> Carla Shall Office of

[0:22] General Counsel.

[0:22] >> And we're Linskey Council

[0:25] auditors office. On a holder

[0:28] at large one. That college at

[0:32] large group for Jacoby Pittman

[0:33] District. 10 tomorrow City

[0:35] Council district, one. Good

[0:35] morning. Jamie Palooza

[0:38] District 7. Good morning.

[0:41] Well, where is district 11?

[0:41] Good morning. Original Geffen

[0:45] enjoying a thank you. I'd like

[0:48] to welcome our newest member.

[0:49] >> COUNCILWOMAN Holder, if

[0:55] you. And you know, you have

[0:55] the floor, if you want to make

[1:01] some comments.

[1:06] >> I

[1:09] >> I trust me. I appreciate

[1:09] that. Because in this

[1:10] environment, some folks like

[1:15] that So and we welcome. Let's

[1:17] go, buddy,

[1:19] >> First item is 2026. There

[1:21] were 5. Some of number 2 is

[1:28] 2026, 0, 6, 27 2026 item

[1:30] number 3 is 0, 6.29 Item

[1:36] number for 2026. Sera 6.33

[1:38] Item number 5, 0 2020, 26, 0,

[1:45] 6, 34. Item number 6, 2026, 0,

[1:48] 6, 35 and will begin with item

[1:50] number one that's been

[1:51] deferred at the request of

[1:55] Council member Boylan. Item

[1:58] number 2, 2026, 0, 6, 27. Open

[2:03] the public hearing. Do we have

[2:06] any carts? It's Renee Hunter

[2:08] to you. One. Explain what this

[2:12] is about. I just want to see

[2:25] you walk down here. Good

[2:25] morning.

[2:26] >> Hunter public works real

[2:27] estate divisions. So before

[2:30] you for Bill 6.27, is the

[2:31] closure of an unimproved

[2:34] unopened right of on Gate

[2:36] Parkway. The applicant is

[2:37] Seminole Timber and they're

[2:39] going to be redeveloping. The

[2:40] right of way for still would

[2:45] Pines Boulevard phase 2. And

[2:46] that's pretty much what

[2:47] they've paid. The 2009. You

[2:48] include your application fee.

[2:49] There's been no objections

[2:50] from anybody in the city to

[2:52] disclosure request. And we're

[2:53] going to be reserving an

[2:56] easement over the area for And

[2:58] I'm here for any questions.

[3:01] Any questions of committee?

[3:02] Thank you. Ms Hunter,

[3:07] appreciate you. Yes,

[3:08] >> Close the public hearing.

[3:08] Can I get a motion on the

[3:10] amendment and then a second.

[3:11] Can someone explain the

[3:14] amendment?

[3:15] >> chair the committee, the

[3:18] Amendment corrects the book. A

[3:19] page reference and then

[3:19] corrects. The Ari number

[3:22] listed in the bill.

[3:23] >> Thank you so much. Going to

[3:25] get a motion on the bill as

[3:28] amended already have. Voice

[3:30] vote on the amendment. All in

[3:37] favor. Any oppose. Now the can

[3:38] I get a motion on the bill as

[3:39] amended? Thank you. Open your

[3:54] ballot.

[4:00] >> 7 yeas, 0 nays.

[4:02] >> By your action, you've

[4:10] approved 2026 0, 6, 27. Item.

[4:12] Number 3, 2026, 0, 6, 29. Can

[4:15] I get a motion Ville? Any

[4:32] discussion? Open your ballots?

[4:36] >> 7 yeas, 0 nays.

[4:36] >> By your actions, approved

[4:43] 2026, 0, 6, 29. Item number 4.

[4:44] 2026, 0, 6.33 Can I get a

[4:52] motion? Any discussion? Seeing

[4:53] none in the to open your

[5:04] ballot.

[5:08] >> 7 yeas, 0 nays.

[5:10] >> By your action, you've

[5:16] approved 2026 era 6.33 Item

[5:17] number 5 has been deferred at

[5:17] the request of the

[5:20] Jacksonville Electric

[5:22] Authority j Item number 6 open

[5:23] the public twenty-twenty 6, 0,

[5:27] 6.35 For the public hearing.

[5:31] No cards, no speakers. Close.

[5:32] The public hearing move the

[5:33] amendment.

[5:43] >> The What is the amendment?

[5:44] >> chair the committee, the

[5:45] Amendment corrects the council

[5:46] district council district 5 in

[5:49] which the road renaming is

[5:51] taking place. It also cleans

[5:53] up the on file as well as

[5:55] reflecting that there are only

[5:55] 5 affected property owners.

[5:57] There was one response in the

[5:58] affirmative and for no

[5:58] responses on the street street

[6:02] renaming.

[6:03] >> Thank you. Any discussion

[6:06] on the amendment. All in favor

[6:15] of the amendment. Any opposed.

[6:29] Open your ballots. Record, the

[6:34] >> 7 yeas, 0 nays.

[6:35] >> By your actions, you've

[6:42] approved 2026, 0, 6, 25. Item

[6:45] number 7, 2026, 0, 6.44 Has

[6:47] been deferred due to a public

[6:47] hearing and neighborhoods on

[6:55] 9.14 2026. Item number 8,

[6:56] 2026, 0, 6, 6, 2 is on second.

[7:01] Reading. And we have any

[7:09] public comment. MR. Carr know

[7:10] over Oliver, would you please

[7:12] come 2 minutes and 30 seconds.

[7:15] >> All right. My name is card

[7:15] addresses on file. Want to use

[7:18] does. This bill that was filed

[7:26] by Joe Carlucci 2026 0 6.33

[7:26] I'm becoming more. I'm getting

[7:27] more comfortable with

[7:30] segregation. And when I look

[7:35] at the cip. Probably the

[7:35] biggest problem is day.

[7:37] Everybody's everybody's

[7:38] business and look at what's

[7:39] happened in this election.

[7:43] Especially local. There was

[7:46] the lowest black Americans.

[7:47] It's on the most. A used a

[7:53] show. I know. Has she got

[7:54] elected? All I'm rich white

[7:57] folks in the sober. I looked

[7:59] at the numbers. So here's my

[8:04] point. I want to create a

[8:06] trust fund for old city limit.

[8:09] Black American community. What

[8:13] I mean, everybody pays into.

[8:19] Over 5 That money and we can

[8:22] rebuild own communities

[8:23] without Joel getting in

[8:26] business. The same reflection

[8:28] could happen to the of the

[8:31] district. What I am certain

[8:33] Laden is a bilateral trade

[8:36] agreement and I am new laws

[8:36] aimed to 18, 66 civil rights

[8:42] act of 81. Of our is sent the

[8:48] email. As written. Now. And

[8:49] what I want you to do is that

[8:54] at The state legislature, it.

[8:59] Here local. Because with this

[9:00] proposal, what it does is

[9:03] keeps everybody happy because

[9:04] everybody's really frustrating

[9:06] with the city counts. I want

[9:10] the biggest one. I'm tired of

[9:12] hearing people from district

[9:12] complain about poor

[9:16] representation. They talk

[9:19] about roles not being pay. The

[9:23] talking People are saying this

[9:28] kind of stuff. And no way to

[9:28] fix it is that they pot of

[9:32] money. Let's figure out how

[9:36] much is going to call The fun

[9:38] 5 years worth Capital

[9:39] Improvement project that that

[9:42] money stay in that community.

[9:46] And the people all. Everybody

[9:47] must stop getting everybody's

[9:48] business. Thank you. MISS

[9:52] Oliver.

[9:53] >> Before we adjourn, I just

[9:55] want to make quick comment on

[9:57] the previous legislation and

[9:58] thank council member Carlucci

[10:02] for putting it forward. Don't

[10:02] MISS The Haskell for a number

[10:04] of years and the work that

[10:07] he's done. This communities

[10:11] truly remarkable. And so this

[10:13] is just good recognition of

[10:13] his contribution to our

[10:31] community. Go ahead. You.

[10:36] There. I wanted. Was in this

[10:37] committee.

[10:39] >> As it did in the other

[10:39] neighborhoods yesterday. Just

[10:43] share that. On Friday this

[10:50] Friday. Having 2 meetings

[10:52] notice meetings will be in the

[10:53] chambers, at least the first

[10:54] one will the second maybe in

[10:56] one of the other conference

[11:00] rooms. Sent out a notice to

[11:05] everybody. And the first one

[11:08] at 1 o'clock. Is going to be

[11:10] on the Affordable housing

[11:11] proposal that the mayor had

[11:13] included in her budget. When

[11:16] she when she handed it off to

[11:18] the council. The council cut

[11:20] that out of the budget and

[11:27] finance. And I would like to

[11:28] have a notice meeting on the

[11:34] possibility. Placing that back

[11:41] in the budget. In the next one

[11:45] is on some. Is one Michael be

[11:46] here during committee week.

[11:50] I'm gonna be. Going up to

[11:50] North Carolina desperately

[11:54] seeking cooler weather. So I

[11:57] won't be here, but it has pot

[11:58] passed emergency in council

[12:02] but has do with. The Family

[12:02] Exchange. Club's parent a

[12:04] program and it fits. Really

[12:11] well and fills a niche the and

[12:12] the mayor's programs, the

[12:15] journey. I think it is in

[12:20] helping parents in and trying

[12:21] to work with their children

[12:22] that are at high risk. So many

[12:25] program. Received a lot of

[12:28] funding from the state.

[12:30] Receives lot of private

[12:33] funding I've been talking to

[12:36] these folks for a long time.

[12:37] And finally decided see if I

[12:41] could. It's going to be with

[12:44] funding from this year. It

[12:45] won't have any effect the

[12:46] budget that we're proposing

[12:48] for next year. Of course, the

[12:55] affordable housing will and so

[12:58] if if after discussion on

[12:59] Friday. I think that I would

[13:04] probably like to. Support and

[13:08] amendment 2. Affordable

[13:09] housing dollars and a program

[13:10] has proposed back in the

[13:17] budget. And I look if this

[13:18] councilmember Holder will

[13:18] speak to today, I'm sure she

[13:19] does. She did in the committee

[13:22] yesterday. And I think she

[13:26] would like to be really the

[13:26] well. There's no sponsor a

[13:29] budget amendments, but I think

[13:31] they MAY be on a list. The

[13:32] budget amendments MAY be on

[13:34] the list with people's names

[13:36] associated with amendment and

[13:38] really should be it really

[13:40] should be under her name, not

[13:45] mine or if it my most b, a a

[13:45] caboose behind hers would be

[13:51] happy for that. So I would

[13:52] just ask that as many of you

[13:55] that can a 10. So that we can

[13:57] really understand what that

[13:58] affordable housing. Proposal

[14:05] is. In the comment has been

[14:06] made that well and it only

[14:07] help out 800,000 people. So

[14:09] why? Why do it? Because it's

[14:13] not So help everybody. I

[14:15] thought about that comment.

[14:16] And I thought about when I was

[14:18] a young salesman trying to

[14:21] piece together an agency that

[14:22] one day we've become quite the

[14:22] book of business, which it

[14:27] finally has. And we had a

[14:28] saying that by the Inc is a

[14:33] sense by the artist. Hard. You

[14:34] build a book of business. You

[14:36] build a city by the end. And

[14:39] sooner or later they become

[14:40] yards. But if you try to do it

[14:42] all at once by the yard and

[14:43] that's kind of hard because

[14:45] this is a big by the the Apple

[14:49] take off. And so I would use

[14:52] that comparison so chair, I

[14:53] just want to make that

[14:54] announcement this Friday. 1

[14:56] o'clock for double housing.

[14:58] And I think to 30 is the

[15:01] family Exchange Club, parent

[15:02] Child Assistance Program. And

[15:05] I would like to if if you if

[15:07] you want recognize all turned.

[15:09] Turning back to you, MR. Chair

[15:11] and and you can recognize

[15:12] Holder Councilmember Holder,

[15:14] she would like to speak. Thank

[15:16] you. Thank Anybody else for

[15:18] that matter. Thank you, MISTER

[15:19] Carlucci. Don't see her in the

[15:23] Are you?

[15:23] >> Go ahead. Councilmember

[15:24] Holder.

[15:27] >> Through the chair. Thank

[15:28] you. Past. PRESIDENT Colleges

[15:31] want to echo your sentiments

[15:33] about the importance trying to

[15:33] get affordable housing back

[15:36] into the budget as well as

[15:38] programs that our children and

[15:40] our families. So look forward

[15:41] to our notice. Meeting on

[15:43] Friday in moving forward with

[15:44] an amendment to the budget

[15:46] with you support. Thank you so

[15:50] much. Thank you, MR. Mousa.

[15:51] >> Thank you. Chair wasn't i

[15:51] was going to be on this at

[15:54] first, but I'm very grateful

[15:55] to 2. And it was council

[15:56] member and our most seasoned

[15:56] councilmember leading on this

[15:58] issue. Housing is obviously

[16:00] pretty much the most premier

[16:01] problem facing the city at the

[16:03] moment. And Unf poll has

[16:05] suggested that on I'm gonna go

[16:06] a little bit of a step

[16:06] further. I'd like to see that

[16:09] meeting also evolve into MAY

[16:11] be making sure that we as a

[16:11] council pushed back on this

[16:13] idea of putting things below

[16:14] the line. And if we can get

[16:15] the affordable housing money

[16:18] back in the and the budget, I

[16:19] don't like to see psg and csu

[16:21] grants moving fully above the

[16:22] line. And I would like to see

[16:23] if that's something that my

[16:24] colleagues will be interested

[16:32] in. MR. Carlucci. MR. Chair

[16:35] through the chair.

[16:38] Councilmember is asking it.

[16:39] Those 2 concepts could be

[16:40] included into the Affordable

[16:46] housing. I'm not sure if we're

[16:50] such a on that. And I'm not

[16:51] against talking about anything

[16:52] in meetings. I like my

[16:55] meetings be noticed. You know,

[16:56] so that anything can be talked

[16:57] about because we so seldom

[17:02] have the chance to do so. I

[17:03] would say was with some

[17:08] caution. Going back to by the

[17:09] Inc is a cinch by the art.

[17:11] It's hard I'm trying to get

[17:15] this Inc of the budget

[17:16] restored and I don't not sure

[17:20] we will have time or we want

[17:21] to take 2 bytes that that

[17:25] those 2 under the line things

[17:25] because I respect what

[17:27] CHAIRMAN Of finances trying to

[17:31] do I do want to try to keep

[17:32] respect with what the council

[17:33] president is trying to do.

[17:36] This budget has been a good

[17:39] budget process so far. At the

[17:42] same time cutting something

[17:45] out like affordable housing. I

[17:46] think it's worth trying to put

[17:49] that back in. So I would like

[17:52] to Keep the meeting too. The

[17:56] affordable housing agenda. But

[17:57] if we get through that in an

[17:57] hour and a half, we've got

[17:59] time left over. You're welcome

[18:00] to bring that up and we can

[18:02] talk about a far be it for me

[18:05] to ever stifle in a

[18:07] conversational city business

[18:09] that we haven't any notice

[18:11] meeting that I ever have.

[18:13] Thank you. Thank you. MISTER

[18:15] Carlucci, mist up a one more

[18:16] time.

[18:16] >> Thank you, chair. And just

[18:17] finish. Yeah. I think that the

[18:19] main purpose of the meeting

[18:20] should be the Affordable

[18:21] housing trust. Just want make

[18:22] sure we have that opportunity.

[18:22] Kind of going to other

[18:24] budgetary matters.

[18:25] >> If that's something that

[18:26] the Dark Tunnel Council

[18:27] offices okay with adding that

[18:27] to maybe the notice meeting

[18:30] and other budgetary matters

[18:31] and then perhaps if not, then

[18:32] we'll just keep it affordable

[18:33] housing. If that's your

[18:34] meeting. I see Michelle

[18:37] grabbing her microphone. You

[18:43] see her. Should start are

[18:44] okay. Thank you. Through the

[18:46] chair to the committee.

[18:47] >> So I just put up that

[18:50] meeting. Notice Councilmember

[18:54] Carlucci Center out and it

[18:56] says it's meeting regarding

[18:56] Affordable housing budget

[18:57] amendments. They'll need to

[19:01] kind of limit discussions to

[19:03] that topic and things closely

[19:04] related. If you want revise

[19:06] meeting notice, perhaps to

[19:08] make it a little broader, that

[19:08] would be my recommendation. If

[19:09] you want to talk about other

[19:10] things that are closely

[19:11] related.

[19:15] >> And Michelle, how many if

[19:16] it survives, how many hours

[19:17] does that have to be out

[19:22] before the meeting occurs? At

[19:23] least 72 hours. Course, our

[19:25] recommendation 24 hours would

[19:30] be the minimum. All right.

[19:32] Thank you so much for that

[19:33] clarification. Any other

[19:35] business to come before this

[19:35] committee and the days ahead?

[19:39] We're still trying to schedule

[19:42] some presentations that a red

[19:43] relative to the role in the

[19:44] function of transportation

[19:47] energy. Tell it easy if

[19:48] members of the committee have

[19:49] some ideas as to who can make

[19:51] it work while presentation

[19:53] that would leave us rich with

[19:57] information. Help us to be

[19:58] make better decisions going

[20:01] forward. Please forward your

[20:02] suggestions thank you all for

[20:04] showing up this morning. Staff

[20:05] and committee members. This

[20:07] meeting stands adjourned or

[20:11] next meeting is SEPTEMBER 15.

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