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it for you.
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» Uh yes, sir. In accordance with the
South Carolina Code of Laws 1976,
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Section 30-4-80
as amended, notification of the meeting
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and the meeting agenda were posted at
least 24 hours prior to the meeting on
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the County Council building at a
publicly accessible place, on the County
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website, and a copy of the agenda was
provided to the local news media and all
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persons or organizations requesting
notification.
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» If you would, please join me for the
pledge and the invocation.
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I pledge
>> to the flag of the United States of
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America.
To the republic for which it stands,
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one nation
under God,
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indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.
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» All right. Let us pray.
Father, thank you for this day and thank
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you for allowing us to gather to make
decisions for Jasper County. Guide us
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with our decisions today for the
Sheriff's office,
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for the detention center and the
betterment of our county. We ask all
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these things in your name. Amen.
>> Amen.
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» Um next up is the approval of the
agenda. Can I have a motion to approve
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or disapprove
uh the agenda?
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» I'll make a motion to approve the
agenda.
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» We have a motion by Councilman Van
Geison. Do we have a second?
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» Second.
>> We have a second by Councilman
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Chiccarelli. All those in favor, please
raise your right hand and say I.
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» I.
>> I.
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» The eyes are unanimous. Uh
Sheriff Malphrus, if you all want to
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start with the workshop topic and y'all
can take it from here.
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» Thank you, Chairman. Uh
Council, thank you guys so much. I
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realize it's life is busy and sometimes
it's hard to get everyone together, and
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I appreciate you taking some time out of
your schedule to be here and
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um I'm going to forewarn you
you could be fed a bunch of information
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kind of like drinking from a water hose
from a fire hose. We all know the the
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same but um
you we took the jail over in January and
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we've been here a little more than 8
months now or 8 months or so and we've
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recognized many deficiencies that we
need to address.
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And of course uh
we're here today with MCA and Motorola
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to kind of break down
the ecosystem of what we're going to put
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in place here at the detention center.
And that includes um a a new camera
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system
with new high-tech cameras of course.
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I'm not a tech guru so these guys can
kind of explain
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uh
all the details about the cameras, radio
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systems. Of course, you guys know that
we have about 42 radio radios or so on
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the streets that are end of life.
And we know these radios are very
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expensive so we're trying to move to uh
obviously something that is serviceable
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and also
uh that will last us many many years to
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come.
Uh
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there's a lot of deficiencies here
especially when it comes to
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communications inside the jail,
entryways, there's a whole bunch of
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stuff so uh
with all of that being said, I'm going
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to turn it over to Anthony. He's he
works for MCA and he's been very
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intimately involved in this process.
Uh he's going to be one of the main guys
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that you may ask questions to. We'll
give you his point of contact after this
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meeting.
And we want to email you some literature
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and information to break down what we're
asking for. We also have several guys
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online that can answer some questions
when it comes to payments and and
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longevity and technology and all the
things
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that uh I am not qualified to do so.
This is Anthony with MCA.
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» Sheriff Newell, Council, thank you for
allowing us to be able to come before
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you today and be able to kind of do this
presentation and uh
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we uh I'm Anthony with MCA and and we
met with uh with the Sheriff and the
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Sheriff's Department uh a while back and
um they came to us with some with some
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issues and we wanted to try to come in
and see what we could do to be able to
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solve those issues for them and we began
to look at some of the deficiencies that
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that they talking about different things
from the camera systems inside of the
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detention center here to the outside of
the building also with the radios
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ability to be able to communicate once
they get inside of the building as well.
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And with Motorola Motorola Solutions and
in the all of the the technology that
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they have today
we were able to put together
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kind of a ecosystem if you will
of technology to be able to solve the
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the needs that's currently that's
happening today here and and then we're
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going to talk a little bit about the the
ecosystem we talk about the different
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technologies that we have built into
this this system that that we're
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proposing to the sheriff's department
and the detention center here and we
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also have Ray Arnold he's Motorola
Solutions direct and he's on the call as
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well
and he'll he'll kind of kind of drive
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this in just a few minutes as well
to kind of get into some of the
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technology and that kind of thing we'll
talk kind of back and forth and
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obviously at any time if anybody has any
questions or anything that comes up let
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us know and we'll be glad to stop and
and dig deeper if we need to dig deeper
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into something that kind of thing or if
you don't understand we'd be glad to you
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know to expand on that as well for you.
So just kind of give you a quick
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synopsis of the technology that we have
today that we're we're going to be
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presenting
is
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Sheriff Malphrus said
radios that's end of life will be will
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be addressing that in the technology
that we have currently today
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that will move you into into the future
with that and then we're going to be
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talking about bi-directional amplifier
system for the for the detention center,
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and what that will do for the
communication
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areas in the detention center and also
the sheriff's department where there's
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dead spots and that kind of thing for
his communication.
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Then we're going to talk about the
camera system that we have for the
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detention center. The current camera
system that's here today and then what
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we're going to be proposing to replace
that with, as well as access control,
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being able to gain access into the
building into different parts in the
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interior of the building, and how that
works together in tandem with the camera
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systems
that we're going to be presenting. And
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then we also going to talk a little bit
about body worn cameras
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inside the detention center and how
they're going to benefit the detention
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center workers and also the inmates.
Obviously through all the technology
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that we have is going to
one of the greatest things about it is
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it's going to help make things a lot
smoother, make the job easier and keep
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people safer at the same time. And so
that's kind of really one of the the key
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designs behind this system. And then
finally we have another piece called
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command central aware, and that's going
to be kind of if you will kind of you
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picture a
a wheel and you have a hub and then
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there's spokes.
All the technology ties back into the
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command central aware. That command
central aware is going to be our hub so
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to speak, and that's the technology kind
of houses everything along with the
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command central dims. And again we'll be
we'll be getting into
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the talk a little bit about that that
technology and how it works and what
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it's going to do for its benefit. But
that's kind of a high level overview
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of kind of the ecosystem that we're
going to be presenting here today.
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And that kind of thing. And so I'm going
to I'm going to turn it over to Reed
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Arnold and he's again with Motorola
Solutions Direct and I'll let him kind
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of start kind of going into the
different technologies that we have
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here. Before before he does that does
that anybody have any questions before
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he kind of dives in?
>> With everything this is counseling Van
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Gieson by the way.
With everything you spoke did you say
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body cams?
Did you mention body cams?
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» Yes a body worn camera for detention
center. That's correct. Yes.
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» Okay, all right. Yeah, good.
I thought I caught that. That I think
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that'd be fantastic actually. Okay, I
just want to make sure I caught that.
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» Yes, sir.
Any other questions?
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» Oh, for sure my office. Uh Joseph
Argelo.
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Chris I know we did a contract recently
on body cameras
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and so on and so forth with the tasers
and all two separate beasts.
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I'm saying.
>> Yes, sir. This will be tied in with with
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the FC Motorola system what we're
currently using on the streets is
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something different and because
the
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the system's going to be in the jail the
ecosystem's going to be in the jail. We
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want the camera that can stay in
proximity of that and work in house
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versus where we need them on the streets
to to link with our with our body
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cameras, our tasers and our in car
cameras.
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» All right and in that in our current
contract I think it was 1.7 million for
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5 years I believe.
For those how many cameras do we have
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for that?
>> 80 is what Chief Abbott would say.
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» You said 80?
>> Yes, sir. 80.
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» Okay, I'll save I'll save the rest for
later. Thank you.
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» Anyone else?
>> Yeah, I have one question. MCA right? Is
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that what it was?
>> Mobile communication radio. Yes, sir.
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» Okay, that's what I want to know. Thank
you.
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» Yes, sir.
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Anyone else?
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Okay, Reed. If you would, you can you
can go ahead.
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» Absolutely. Uh
good afternoon everyone. My name is Reed
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Arnold. I'm the local Motorola rep um
based out of Charleston, South Carolina.
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Uh Johns Island specifically. Uh cover
kind of what's traditionally the the low
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country of uh South Carolina.
Um so, thank you all again for having us
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and and hosting this event.
And so,
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uh with that, I'm going to share my
screen so that everyone can kind of see.
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Maybe. Nope.
Share my screen.
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And I just want to make sure that
everyone can see
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uh this right here.
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» I got it.
>> Perfect. Okay. So, today I'm just going
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to go over kind of a high-level overview
of the different technologies. I don't
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want to go too into the weeds. I'd be
happy to kind of double down on any of
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the technologies that you guys are going
to ask a question. Um
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but just don't I just want to keep it
more high-level uh cuz we can really
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kind of get into the weeds uh based on
any of these different technologies.
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But, I think the important thing that
we're talking about today is trying to
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enhance safety for both those working in
the jail and those that are detained in
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the jail. Uh safety is the highest
priority for everyone there. So, let's
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let's try to maximize that by utilizing
newer technologies
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uh by having more eyes and on the
situation should anything happen.
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So, what we're looking at today are kind
of a five different pieces
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of
technology that's going to be kind of in
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a unified operation. So, the first one
I'll start with is the the V700
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body-worn cameras. And so, that's going
to be the body-worn camera that's going
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to be located in the
in the uh detention center itself.
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Uh
with it being on that campus, we're
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going to be able to live stream into uh
Command Central aware, which I'll go
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into more. But, the reason why this uh
the sheriff was looking at these V700
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body worn cameras is is for that uh
Wi-Fi based uh live streaming.
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We're also going to be bringing new
radios to the line uh to the officers,
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which is going to be the N70 portable.
Uh it's a very ruggedized device that
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brings both LTE and LMR.
And what that means is you're bringing
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data to the officer at their hip. Um so,
we're able to get faster location
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information. They're able to see other
officers' location directly there on the
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device, as well as it's extending the
coverage. So, uh should the LMR or the
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land mobile radio system, if you have
kind of degraded coverage, whether it's
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an in-building or kind of on the
periphery of where coverage is, LTE will
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take over so that they're going to be
able to maintain uh all of their
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communications throughout.
Um
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uh
throughout the the county or wherever
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they're they're going to be.
Um
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speaking to communications, one of the
the issues that
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uh the sheriff's department is having at
the detention center is the fact that
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they do not have uh
great coverage in-building. Uh jails are
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specifically difficult sometimes to get
radio coverage in. That could be uh a
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traditional LMR radio or even your cell
phone.
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And the reason why is, you know, they're
heavy concrete, lots of steel. That's
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that's not good for getting
uh
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signal into a building. So, what we're
proposing here is by putting a
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bi-directional amplifier, which is a a
antenna structure that will go
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throughout the building, that will
provide coverage interiorly so that uh
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should anything happen, they're going to
be able to maintain that mission
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critical uh life-saving, you know,
communication uh should something
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happen.
And then
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kind of
moving again interiorly as well as in
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the exterior, we're going to be adding
new cameras and access control into the
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into the jail.
So, by adding AI into these uh these
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cameras
it's able to learn what is normal
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behavior and what is abnormal behavior.
Um so, if an object is sitting too long
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within view of the uh the camera, the
camera's actually going to be able to
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detect it and uh notify uh staff that,
you know, something is
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sitting out there for too long that
shouldn't be. Uh someone's going the
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opposite direction
uh of the flow of traffic. These cameras
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learn what is normal
um to their environment and then
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are proactively monitoring uh
staff when something abnormal happens.
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Um typically, when we look and think of
cameras, we think of it, "Hey, you know,
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an event happened. I now need to look at
my cameras after the fact." Well, these
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cameras are going to be able to
you're able to act in a proactive manner
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uh and stop something potentially before
it happens.
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And then that gets all tied into access
control.
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Uh so, we are allowing the people who
need to be uh
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into the facility where they're supposed
to be
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and keep the people where they're
supposed to stay. Um all of it is locked
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together with our
system called Command Central Aware. So,
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think of it as a single pane of glass
that someone can understand kind of
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what's happening
at the detention center.
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So, with Command Central Aware, you're
able to live stream the body worn
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cameras as well as bring in up to 16
camera feeds from around the jail. So,
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if an officer who is working there hits
their emergency button
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on their LMR system, we're able to pop
up their body worn camera as well as the
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other 16 cameras so that we're getting a
a great view into what's happening in
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the situation and responding
accordingly.
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Um we're trying to save seconds so we
can save lives in this uh detention
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center.
So, we've mapped out [clears throat] and
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blueprinted the entire
uh
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uh
detention center uh so that there are
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going to be zero dead zones with that
integrated BDA, and we're eliminating
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any legacy blind spots
uh
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across cell blocks and common areas. So,
we're getting a true view into the
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detention center
center
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with modern technology that's going to
work for them for a long time.
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So,
a big reason why we're talking ecosystem
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is because trying to purchase these
things ala carte can be
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cumbersome in terms of budget
uh as you keep kind of piecing it along.
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Um if you look at a bundle-ized price,
you're actually going to
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kind of optimize it and we're actually
going to get heavier level of discounts
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uh based on that. When when just looking
at the list price of all of these things
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combined, we're we're upwards of $1.6
million. However,
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um
by bundling that um and utilizing state
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contracts and and that procurement,
we're we're well below that. Uh we're
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we're at 1.3 and
to be honest, uh some of the numbers I'm
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going to show you guys on the next
slide, they're not concrete because I'm
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getting approval for a greater level of
discount, okay? But what I'm going to
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show you
um on this next slide is kind of
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how we can spread out this payment um
cuz asking a a county to to procure, you
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know, $1.3 million in a single year is
is it is a big up up front cost.
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Um
and so
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what we're what proposing
is a new
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this police um with the first year is
completely
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um in arrears payment. So, we are
expecting no money up front
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um for the first year after that
contract signature. And then that second
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year is a around $100,000
uh that we'll be looking at. So, you can
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see kind of how it's broken up between
lease and subscriptions.
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And then from years 3 through 8, you can
see kind of the annual payments that
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will come from there. Uh again, we're
trying to
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structure this lease and structure this
payment so that we can bring the
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um detention center up to modern uh
standards and make sure that the people
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living people who are detained there and
working there are as safe as possible.
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Um and so, spreading that capital out
over an extended period of time
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um so that we're not going and doing
these large lump sums. Um
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and really kind of cost controlling
ourselves. Um I know
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everyone on this call has has seen the
cost of everything kind of increasing
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um whether that's chips, whether that's
oil, whatever it may be. Uh this is a
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great way to
kind of lock in your pricing for today
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so that you know, come 3 years down the
road um
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the planned purchase isn't higher than
expected.
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Um I know I went kind of little quickly
through that. Um but would love to kind
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of
answer any questions and uh whether
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that's about a lease or any of the
technology that, you know, we we quickly
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kind of dove into.
>> I do have a question. Uh Reed. Yes.
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When I'm looking at these payments and
it's over 8-year period,
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um
since we've got AI involved in this and
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that,
is [snorts] there a point this becomes
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obsolete in the near future and it has
to be
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redone or
how do we see this system working? I
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mean
um
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I guess that's my question.
>> Yeah, absolutely. So, um all of the
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technology we have today is modern and
comes with
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a subscription tied to it. So, if
there's any enhancements to the
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products, especially on the software
side, right? Uh we are you are you you
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are guaranteed that upgrade. So, if we
make an advancement
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in our cameras on the back end, you will
absolutely get fed into that. Our body
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worn cameras are the same, same with our
radios. And so
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um you will be entitled to that. That's
that is a a great question though.
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» Now, does will those upgrades come with
cost behind them or will
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you know, obviously if you need new
cameras, there'll be some cost, but as
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far as the upgrades themselves, do you
anticipate you know, a percentage over
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you know, year to year, 1 2 3% a year
going up because of upgrades or is it
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just
um
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how does that work?
>> No, it's a it's a flat structure in
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terms of how that's going to be. There's
unless it's
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unless there's any hardware that you're
purchasing, that would be the only
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reason why there'd be a cost increase,
but um because everything right now is
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is driven in the cloud, um you are
uh entitled to that.
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» Okay, thank you.
>> Yes, sir.
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» Are maintenance costs included with
this?
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» Um I think I'm going to defer to Anthony
on that um seeing that the the camera,
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you know, installation was was done by
MCA.
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» Yes, sir. So, I can answer that and I
got Brian uh Cleary here with him, which
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is service manager, but um in the
pricing, everything is built in for us,
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the programming
of the radios up front. Um obviously the
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uh from the BDA side, the installation
is in there as well, as well as the
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camera system installation. So, we we uh
bundled all that uh together from the uh
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maintenance and uh and installation
standpoint.
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» And then, in terms of the
cameras and body worn cameras, I can
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speak to that. The body worn cameras are
on a program um where if they are
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broken, we will proactively send you new
ones and replace them as need. There's
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no cap to that. And then, the radios
have a 7-year warranty on them. So, if
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anything breaks on it, if it's uh not
functioning the right way, uh it is
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covered under warranty uh for the
totality of of that.
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» Reed, this is Joey, the chairman. Do is
those prices that you have up there, is
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that inclusive of the BDA, the body worn
cameras, the radios, all everything all
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in?
>> That That is entirely everything. Yes,
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sir.
>> Okay.
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» Mr. Chairman, there might be a question.
>> The Yes, I'm
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I was just going to say on the camera
maintenance, like if one of them gets
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torn up or, you know, somebody knocks
one, you know, inherently in a jail, a
[22:18]
lot of times sometimes a vandalism
occurs,
[22:21]
it wouldn't cover that or acts of God.
We had We had a similar situation with
[22:26]
another jail and
you know, they knocked it off or broke
[22:29]
it. Uh it wasn't covered. So, so
basically, if anything of that nature
[22:34]
would not
but uh the the
[22:37]
what to Reed's point, any updates or or
uh
[22:42]
software updates or firmware updates and
all that, you know, that would be pushed
[22:45]
down to the cameras, but uh
physical
[22:49]
damage to
uh radio or a
[22:52]
lost radio or you know, somebody takes a
broomstick and knocks a camera out, you
[22:57]
know, it'd be the county's
responsibility for that part of it. But
[23:00]
other than that, it should be covered.
>> Absolutely. And then and I probably
[23:04]
understand this technology with all of
this more than most, but uh definitely
[23:10]
the BDA um inside the jail is needed as
well as some of the other components
[23:15]
uh with that um and the ability for um
officer safety
[23:23]
um not only just for them, but
responding other units to the area to
[23:27]
where
um
[23:29]
it captures their frequencies, you're
able to there's a lot more than just the
[23:34]
the detention center.
[23:39]
» I do have a question for Sheriff
Malphrus.
[23:42]
» Yes, sir.
>> On the um
[23:45]
lease that
we just entered into, I guess, within a
[23:48]
year, um is it with the same folks here?
Um what are our obligations? And I'm I'm
[23:54]
guessing that this would be this whole
system is just for the people in the
[23:57]
jail? Or would this cover
>> Yes, we'll keep the current contract we
[24:02]
have with Axon this year is a separate
system that'll be
[24:05]
» Speak up a little bit, Sheriff.
>> I'm sorry. Yes, sir, it it's it's a a
[24:09]
separate system
from what we currently use on the
[24:13]
streets. We'll continue to have that
that particular contract. This is just
[24:17]
for the jail house and detention center.
>> Yeah, I remember in the discussion on
[24:21]
that, we talked about how many
employees you have. So, as if you had
[24:26]
this system, how many people outside of
this system would you have um
[24:32]
those 80 units to cover?
>> Well, the 80 units are for the the
[24:36]
deputies on the streets and these
particular units here will be just for
[24:39]
the detention deputies inside the jail.
>> Right. And how many
[24:45]
deputies that would need them outside
the jail do you have?
[24:49]
» Uh we have 80 cameras outside and we
were asking for 40 uh
[24:54]
to go with the BDA system.
>> Yeah, but I mean how many
[24:59]
Do we have too many of those cameras on
the original contract now? And if so, is
[25:04]
there any buyout for those or anything
that
[25:08]
» No, sir. We're using all that we have.
Yeah, that's we plan to keep it the way
[25:11]
it is. So, that system's up and running
and very useful and and very
[25:15]
» Yeah, but how how many how many how many
officers do you have outside the jail
[25:21]
that need cameras?
>> Uh no, this this is this system we're
[25:25]
asking for now is just for the the
detention deputies.
[25:28]
» I understand, but how many deputies do
you have outside the jail that need
[25:31]
cameras?
>> All of them.
[25:35]
» Yes, the total number of road deputies.
>> Uh yeah, well well, they all need it,
[25:39]
but they all have it.
>> I know, but how many do you have? Cuz
[25:43]
you have 80 cameras, how many
deputies do you have?
[25:46]
» 72 deputies. Yes, sir.
So, we have we have a couple extras in
[25:51]
case one breaks or we need to send it
off or something like that. So, we have
[25:54]
a a small handful of of spares, if you
will.
[25:58]
» Right. So, how many employees do you
have total?
[26:01]
» We have 80 with the detention center and
46 with the jail.
[26:09]
» Thank you.
[26:12]
» I may be one or two off, but I know we
have 80 with with the the sheriff's
[26:15]
office, I'm sorry. And then we have
between 45 and 47.
[26:20]
» So, roughly 120 plus employees?
>> Yes, sir. That's correct.
[26:24]
» Okay. That that's all I need to know.
Thank you.
[26:32]
» I got a I have a question about uh
this being a single source. Is this the
[26:38]
only Are you the only group that
provides this service or these type of
[26:42]
products?
[26:46]
» Um with how the ecosystem
works together, especially with the body
[26:50]
worn, uh yes, sir, it does. Yes, we are.
>> Also, you have like a patent on this or
[26:55]
this type of these this type of product
or
[26:58]
» Um I mean, we have a
a numerous patents for our different
[27:02]
technologies. Yes, sir.
>> Okay, so that you have a lock on this
[27:06]
here. The only like a sole source on
this uh on this type of uh
[27:11]
» Yeah, and this is all state contract as
well.
[27:13]
Um negotiate on that as well.
>> Okay, and then do you
[27:18]
um is there any grant opportunities with
this type of
[27:22]
uh system?
>> Yes, sir. There are grants that come up
[27:26]
every single year. Uh whether that's
body worn cameras, there are plenty
[27:29]
federal grants that come in especially
for detention centers to modernize
[27:32]
those.
Um there's cops grants that come out
[27:35]
every year, and then there's a lot of uh
opioid and drug money that's currently
[27:40]
out there today
um that was
[27:43]
started with the Biden administration
that's being carried through
[27:46]
um with the Trump uh presidency that's
in today. So, there are lots of uh
[27:51]
opportunities to get grants, and you can
prepay this lease off with no penalty
[27:56]
whatsoever.
Uh and a lot of um grants will uh allow
[28:00]
you to do to utilize that for a
uh
[28:04]
lease payment as well.
>> Okay, thanks.
[28:08]
» Also, just to share some information
about the detention center,
[28:12]
uh we have a fund called inmate wellness
fund,
[28:15]
and it's it's
proceeds that we get from
[28:19]
certain things in the jail that I can
explain to you in detail.
[28:22]
Uh there's some money's there that we
can use toward this.
[28:25]
Um it may not be available in every
single year, but there is some upfront
[28:28]
that we can help
offset the cost.
[28:33]
» Would Motorola be able to at the end of
the contract with you said Axio? I can't
[28:38]
remember the name of the company. Um
when that term ends, would Motorola be
[28:43]
able to roll something in and kind of
keep it all in house in one
[28:48]
» Yes, sir, we can.
[28:52]
» Yes, sir. And and we can one thing we
can speak on too is is Sheriff Malphurs
[28:56]
kind of alluded a little bit with the
body worn cameras inside the detention
[29:01]
center.
Motorola is proprietary in a technology
[29:05]
that they have built in with their body
worn to where
[29:09]
far as the recording and and different
things of that nature that the body worn
[29:12]
can do is that it it's always always
gets the video. So that's one of the one
[29:17]
of the nice things behind what we
provide there is that gives that added
[29:21]
security and and safety from from the
officer standpoint as well,
[29:26]
whether be in the detention center or if
later on, you know, once the contract's
[29:30]
up with Axon, they choose to go roll
into our body worn and in-car camera
[29:36]
systems. Everything links together and
that's one of the good things about the
[29:40]
Command Central Aware and in the Command
Central Deans that we have is that the
[29:45]
the video resides there and houses there
and and it gives the ability to be able
[29:50]
to
to have everything at your fingertips
[29:53]
pretty much. Allow you to be able to
share the video as you need it, put
[29:57]
restrictions in as you need it,
and those type of things. But then also
[30:02]
from that side of things, being able to
have the the ability to search very
[30:07]
easily. So one of the things with our
with the in-building video on AI camera
[30:13]
system,
the search engine is a a phenomenal
[30:17]
being able to search out, you know,
hours of video and you can find
[30:23]
something other that you're looking for
within a minute or so. So that's one of
[30:26]
the great things behind this technology
as well from the AI side is that the the
[30:31]
search engine really gives the ability
to provide
[30:36]
the folks with the video very quickly
and and it can go across all the cameras
[30:41]
that's in the building as well. So, one
of the things that we're looking at
[30:44]
doing is the amount of cameras you have
today currently in your facility. Uh
[30:49]
we're going to be able to reduce that
some, but also give you better coverage
[30:53]
uh inside and outside. So, that's a
that's one of the pluses behind um this
[30:58]
particular technology as well is uh is
giving you better coverage um with less
[31:03]
uh amount of cameras to maintain.
[31:19]
Any other Anybody have any other
questions we need to dive deep with any
[31:23]
other technologies?
[31:27]
» Just a real quick question is how much
electricity do we have enough electric
[31:32]
electrical output and at the jail? We're
they're always understaffed over there.
[31:36]
I mean under utilized.
Do you have enough electricity for all
[31:41]
the charging here?
[31:45]
» I will see that.
>> So, I mean all of the cameras are
[31:47]
running over PoE. Uh so, power over
Ethernet. Uh which in and of itself is
[31:52]
very low voltage. Um so, I have not seen
uh detention center that did not have
[31:58]
enough power
power to to to do this for cameras uh
[32:03]
over, you know, the however many times
we've done this before.
[32:08]
» Now,
one of the changes that we want to make
[32:11]
in this process, and I've talked to him
about this, is obviously when we're
[32:14]
making make
an update with our generator,
[32:18]
all this will be on the generator, which
currently not. So, when our power goes
[32:21]
out, we lose communication, we lose
video, we lose the ability to open up
[32:26]
cell doors, etc. So, it becomes a very
dangerous situation when we lose power.
[32:30]
So,
this is also something that we want to
[32:32]
make sure that
when we make that transition to a new
[32:35]
generator, that this system will be up
and running full time, all the time,
[32:39]
with no lack of power, with with no
inability to lose or trap officer or
[32:44]
inmate or dangerous situation that we
will be able to to get to.
[32:50]
» And that um
is going to be part of the capital uh
[32:55]
uh requests that we're going to discuss
with council, hopefully,
[32:59]
uh late in September or early October.
[33:06]
» Is this something you said is good for
August, though, or what were you looking
[33:09]
at in terms of a timeline on on a on
this kind of contract?
[33:15]
» Well,
if if it's approved, uh
[33:18]
I think they can pretty much come in and
put the system in in about 90 days.
[33:22]
» So so yes, so obviously, once once the
approval being that we've got a number
[33:27]
of different technologies uh built into
this particular ecosystem design, um
[33:32]
obviously, there's going to be equipment
that's going to ship, you know, fairly
[33:36]
quickly.
Um and then there obviously uh there's
[33:39]
going to be a
you know, it's going to take some time
[33:41]
to uh do removals of existing cameras
and access control, and then the
[33:47]
installation of the new equipment and
that kind of thing. So,
[33:50]
um you know, once we kind of we kind of
get an idea um about the uh the time
[33:55]
frame, we can definitely share that with
you to give you a better uh idea on a on
[33:59]
a time frame we're looking of for the
time of start to the time of finish,
[34:03]
obviously. Um from a standpoint on
approval, um you know, from the
[34:08]
financing side, and Reek can speak on
this um too, but I I know that normally
[34:13]
uh once the Motorola gets the uh the
verbiage uh together and gets the the
[34:18]
paperwork over, uh obviously, the county
attorneys will will will then you look
[34:23]
at that and uh you know, it will be
dependent pretty much upon uh the timing
[34:28]
that it takes for them to uh you know,
approve it from their side and that kind
[34:32]
of stuff and get it back to us. But, uh,
once we get it and everything's
[34:35]
approved, uh, usually Motorola uh, runs
pretty quick with it. And and like I
[34:39]
said, Reed can speak a little further on
that if we need to, uh, from a time span
[34:43]
uh, span.
[34:46]
» Yeah, timing-wise I think, uh, in terms
of just, you know,
[34:50]
after if if this is something that you
guys are looking to do and procure,
[34:54]
um,
getting the body worn cameras like set
[34:58]
up, that's about 90 days.
Um,
[35:04]
the BDA and the cameras are going to
probably take the longest just because
[35:08]
that is going to be a lot of
coordination making sure that, um, MCA
[35:12]
and our partners can can get to the
location safely and install that in a in
[35:17]
a in a manner that they can. So, there's
just going to be a lot of coordination
[35:19]
that's going to come with that.
Um, but in terms of things in the cloud,
[35:24]
um,
that would be Command Central Aware and
[35:26]
the body worn cameras. We're going to
get that spun up within 3 months of, uh,
[35:31]
that that signature coming in.
[35:36]
» Okay. So, while we while we figure out
the payments, then how long does it take
[35:41]
I mean, how much time do you need before
like the first payment is is due?
[35:46]
» Sure. So, first payment is not due for
an entire for 365 days after the the
[35:51]
signature.
>> Okay. Yeah, you did say it was in
[35:53]
arrears. So, all you need is is just an
approval and then a commitment to pay.
[35:59]
» Yeah, more Yeah, in terms of the
municipal leases and how they work for
[36:02]
us is,
uh, we'll we'll send you over a contract
[36:07]
and a draft of kind of the language
that's that's tied to it. Uh, but really
[36:11]
it's, you know, making sure that this is
presented to the the citizens of Jasper
[36:15]
County and then your county attorney
making sure that, uh, you guys have gone
[36:18]
through the necessary steps, uh, legally
to to procure this off of a lease.
[36:22]
That's that's more or less kind of what
it is.
[36:27]
» Just a general question, Don Kemp.
Who owns the You have I may have missed
[36:33]
this, but you have storage A lot of this
stuff is storage, right? Who owns the
[36:37]
storage?
>> We guys don't own it.
[36:40]
No, we store it, uh but it is all your
data and and metadata. So, all the
[36:44]
videos and information that's tied to it
is all of your own uh to do with what
[36:51]
you will. We are just storing it for you
guys as a service.
[36:54]
» Do you know if like for example, if they
don't they can go through you to get the
[36:58]
store get the information, or do they
have
[37:00]
» No, they cannot. That is They would have
to go through you. It is your
[37:03]
information and yours. Uh we And then
you guys have access to the system to
[37:07]
then pull the video uh should a FOIA
request come in.
[37:11]
Uh all of that's going to be dictated
through you guys uh since it's all of
[37:14]
your data. We don't We don't own it. Um
we don't do anything with it. We don't
[37:18]
sell it. It's all yours.
>> So, when you have that you have a
[37:22]
request, do we request you, or do we
request
[37:26]
Do we do it ourselves?
>> You do you do it yourself. So, if your
[37:28]
FOIA request came in for the detention
center, uh that would obviously come in
[37:32]
through the sheriff's office, I would
imagine, and then the sheriff's office
[37:36]
would would query and do what they
needed to do to uh facilitate that FOIA
[37:41]
request.
[37:45]
» Okay, so there's no no additional charge
for research.
[37:50]
» No.
[37:54]
» Yeah, I still have a question about
commitment time. When do you need a
[37:57]
commitment by?
Do you have a
[38:00]
before this price changes or whatever?
>> Yeah, I mean, it it it comes down to I
[38:05]
know this takes time um especially with
running with the lease. If you guys say
[38:08]
yes, we want to go this route, uh we
will maintain the pricing as well as the
[38:13]
uh the lease rate
um for however long that takes, whether
[38:16]
that's, you know, three, four readings,
whatever it is, we will maintain that.
[38:20]
Um but the pricing that
that have that we'll we'll send over to
[38:25]
uh the Sheriff's Department will be good
for uh 90 days.
[38:29]
» All right, thanks.
>> Another another great thing about this
[38:33]
is MCA, they will do all the maintenance
stuff. So, if we have a problem, the
[38:35]
camera goes down,
we call them, they come in, they fix it,
[38:39]
they deal with it. We don't have to tie
up our county IT, etc. So, that that's
[38:43]
kind of a one-stop shop when it comes
into the maintenance side, also.
[38:55]
» I don't have any other questions.
[39:04]
» I'd like to know what Jim thinks about
it.
[39:10]
» Sheriff, do you all have any additional
information?
[39:14]
Or and if not,
um, we'll see if there's any additional
[39:18]
questions.
>> Uh, we don't, but I believe in my
[39:22]
personal opinion, I would I would like
us to do a workshop face-to-face.
[39:27]
So, we kind of can
dive deeper into the technologies. And I
[39:30]
know they did a great overview today,
but I
[39:34]
I think we can share more candidly
face-to-face and that kind of thing. So,
[39:38]
uh, I don't know if that's possible, but
I'd like to do a a face-to-face
[39:41]
workshop, so we kind of can get into
nuts and bolts, so we all
[39:45]
so you guys
clearly, but everyone kind of can
[39:49]
understand
really how long this technology is going
[39:52]
to last and the the cutting edge and
what is coming down
[39:56]
all the above.
>> If possible, would MCA be willing to do
[40:00]
like a demo and kind of show some of
this stuff for um,
[40:05]
council on how it works, some of the
deficiencies that you have in there with
[40:09]
um, and why you're looking at it.
[40:15]
» Yeah, absolutely. So, so one of the
things that we do have from from
[40:18]
Motorola's standpoint, up in Lexington,
we have innovation center up there that
[40:24]
houses all of the Motorola technologies
basically in in one under one roof, if
[40:29]
you will. And one of the things that
they can do is they can also do a
[40:35]
live demo
to you
[40:38]
online as well.
So, that we can do we can do that
[40:43]
straight from the innovation center in
Lexington. I know it's difficult lot of
[40:47]
times to get everybody up to Lexington
to the physical building, but we can
[40:50]
bring the building to you via, you know,
Zoom or whatever. But, we also can be
[40:55]
there physically with you with equipment
as well to show you how it works and
[41:00]
that kind of thing from the new
technology we have. But, one of the good
[41:04]
things is always being able to see
something live is a lot better than, you
[41:08]
know, going through a PowerPoint and
that kind of thing.
[41:11]
You know, lot of people they don't want
to see slides, they want to see
[41:13]
something that's working live and they
and how well it works. And that's one of
[41:16]
the things that the innovation center
gives to us the ability up in Columbia
[41:20]
or Lexington to do that for you. And so,
so we all we always have the ability to
[41:25]
be able to go there.
The chief and the major from the
[41:28]
sheriff's department was able to go up
a couple weeks ago a few weeks ago and
[41:33]
they were able to kind of see firsthand
what we had up there and that kind of
[41:36]
thing so they could see the technology
was there. But, then also again, we got
[41:41]
the ability to be able to bring that to
you live, you know, via Zoom or whatever
[41:45]
into wherever you want to meet at. And
then, you know, being being able to have
[41:49]
some some live stuff physically in the
room with you. We can do that as well.
[41:54]
» So, Sheriff, I don't need to go to the
innovation center. I pretty have a good
[42:00]
concept of all this just with my
knowledge on it. But, would you all be
[42:05]
willing to
take some council members up there and
[42:09]
and
and show them
[42:12]
that if they would agree to to go. I
will tell you the next couple weeks are
[42:17]
super slammed with workshops and other
things that we're having to do with
[42:21]
other county business, but
um I'll get with the
[42:25]
uh clerk and see some available dates in
the near future. And it might be a good
[42:31]
idea to for folks to actually see
something tangible how it works.
[42:35]
» Absolutely. That's kind of what I want I
want you guys to understand fully what
[42:39]
we're doing what we're doing and the
ability of it all.
[42:42]
The advantages to it for us, you know,
how how it's going to create safety and
[42:46]
how it's going to help even prevent some
things when it comes to the AI process
[42:50]
of the camera system, etc. There's a lot
a lot of things that it does that we
[42:54]
just have not touched and I won't I want
you guys as a council to understand
[42:58]
fully
the cutting edge technology that's
[43:00]
available to us through the system. So,
I would love to do that. I'd love you
[43:04]
guys to be a part of it. When it's women
do that, we'd definitely facilitate
[43:08]
the logistics of getting you up there
and back.
[43:11]
Absolutely.
>> With it being such a big capital
[43:14]
purchase or and budgeting for multiple
years, I think it it would be a good
[43:19]
idea, but we'll we'll cross that bridge
soon and [clears throat] figure it out.
[43:23]
» Absolutely.
>> Yeah, Chairman Row, when I visited with
[43:26]
uh
Sheriff Malphus couple of months ago, um
[43:31]
he said all this and so I know there's a
need there. He also said about the
[43:34]
generator, so I know there's a need
there. One thing I want to make sure of,
[43:38]
I just want to know the difference in
cost, you know, long-term over the lease
[43:42]
versus paying up front. I know there's
some pros and cons either way, uh
[43:47]
whether it be um
you know, the updates or or some of the
[43:51]
things that
uh Councilman Ciccarelli brought up. Um
[43:55]
but if I if I could see that, what it's
actually going to cost us, what's the
[43:58]
cons and pros both ways.
And I already know the need is there. Um
[44:04]
and as long as Jim says we can figure
out how to get the money. I mean, that's
[44:08]
really all I'm I'm needing if we could
get that.
[44:12]
Then I'm that's the only thing I could
think of that I would want to know.
[44:16]
» So, Reed, I don't know if that is more
in your wheelhouse to to look at the
[44:21]
finance and packages or
lease versus own versus
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the different options, but if you could
provide some details
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to the sheriff that he can get the
council that would be greatly
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appreciated.
>> Absolutely. And you know, even with this
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lease, you guys are going to own own all
the equipment and everything afterwards.
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So, this is a lease-to-own, not a
lease-to-rent
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solution. So,
but I can absolutely kind of go through
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the the pros and cons of what would be a
large capital purchase versus kind of
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like an operation operational
expenditure
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and what that would look like.
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» Any other questions by council?
>> No, it sounds like a great product.
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» Any other questions from sheriff's
office or MCA for council?
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» I just wanted to throw it out there that
as MCA, we're already your Motorola
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contractors at your dispatch center. We
maintain all the equipment in there as
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well as the tower sites and wild house
as well. So, we have people that are
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local and by local I mean during the
daytime a 10-to-15-minutes response to a
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to an incident. At nighttime, it's
actually less because two of the
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technicians actually live in Richmond.
So,
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you know, that's that's one of the
pluses of this service is going to
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always be there and be there quickly.
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» Thank you. Uh
Jim, you have anything for council or
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MCA?
>> Uh no, just to make sure that we're
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coordinating with Kim to make sure that
we get
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uh the state procurement stuff squared
away before we come to the council uh
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with this and uh make sure that uh we
have uh that all squared away so there's
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no questions when we're ready to uh make
this thing happen, uh we don't have to
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backpedal.
>> Right. If you'd like, I can
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I can send over the state contract
numbers uh after we're done here so that
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you guys can take a look at that uh and
what is already on there.
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» And y'all are Sourcewell as well,
correct?
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» We are Sourcewell as well, yes, sir. So
we can whichever procurement method you
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would like, we can we can kind of craft
it to
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uh
your procurement director's kind of
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discretion.
>> I think that's very positive and and
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again, that's just want to make sure
that that is covered uh so that uh we
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don't run into a problem a couple months
from now.
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» Understood.
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» Again, thank you everyone for being a
being a part of this. I realize it's a
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it's a big undertaking
for this to happen, but like I said, we
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just want to make sure everyone is up to
par on all the information to make a
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proper decision.
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» Well, thank you, Sheriff, and thank you,
MCA, for the presentation.
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Um I'm sure we'll be back in touch in
the near future with some pricing and
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some other things to discuss.
Um with that being said, all we need is
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one more motion and that is a motion to
adjourn.
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» I'll make a motion to adjourn.
>> We have a motion. Do we have a second?
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» I'll second.
>> We have a motion and a second. All in
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favor, raise your right hand and say
aye.
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» Aye.
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» Thank you, Sheriff. Thank you, MCA.
>> Thank y'all so much.
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» Thank you, guys.
>> Thank you, Sheriff. Thank you for your
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time.
>> Good job.