[0:14] me

[0:37] okay i've got at least my one of my

[0:40] assistant county attorneys on with me

[0:54] yeah i already went doggy

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[1:09] all right um

[1:12] all right we'll get this meeting started

[1:14] to the jefferson county board of

[1:15] supervisors

[1:16] i'm darren hamilton chairman and uh

[1:20] we'll uh call this meeting to order

[1:24] uh let's start by acknowledging the

[1:26] minutes from the previous meeting

[1:30] all right i have a motion by uh demit

[1:33] second by saint quest

[1:35] uh to approve the minutes from the

[1:37] previous meeting

[1:38] all those in favor say i i all those

[1:41] opposed

[1:42] same sign motion carries

[1:45] um the next two

[1:49] items are

[1:55] our part of the county engineer's

[1:57] responsibility and he's not here so

[1:59] we're gonna

[2:00] move on up to um

[2:04] let's see do we have paperwork for

[2:09] uh discuss and consider board of

[2:11] supervisors civil service

[2:13] commission

[2:17] oh i think you're going to need

[2:18] assignments well

[2:21] that involves scott as well i had no

[2:24] idea on cell service division i assumed

[2:26] that maybe that was

[2:29] from chauncey because susie's term

[2:32] expired

[2:33] and i think he was wanting to do an

[2:36] interim

[2:37] appointment so to speak until after the

[2:39] election

[2:41] and i don't know if he was asking it

[2:42] because susan's his appointment

[2:45] well we have pat mcmahon on with us pat

[2:48] maybe you can answer this question about

[2:51] the uh civil service

[2:53] uh yeah my understanding is that the

[2:55] hold on just a second

[2:57] i gotta get some volume up on you here

[3:01] okay now go ahead the terms of the folks

[3:04] who were up this year

[3:05] uh expired on june 30.

[3:09] so i think we have one that needs to be

[3:12] either reappointed or

[3:14] uh newly appointed and i think that you

[3:16] folks had one as well but

[3:18] um i wasn't involved directly in those

[3:20] conversations that's just my

[3:21] understanding

[3:23] okay all right so

[3:26] um

[3:30] who's currently on under us

[3:35] uh pat are you still there no

[3:40] depends what you ask okay

[3:44] uh i show um that adam stafford expires

[3:48] in october of 21.

[3:53] joe ledger expires in october of 23

[3:56] and susie's the only one that

[4:00] is up and is is she october of this year

[4:03] or was it june october of last year

[4:07] we don't have anybody expiring until

[4:09] october of 21.

[4:11] poor choice of words whose term is is

[4:14] up until october of 21.

[4:17] okay uh well if that's the case then it

[4:20] is just us

[4:21] and um um we will uh

[4:25] we'll do what we need to do so uh i

[4:28] don't know why i was thinking that it

[4:30] was uh one of those kind of like the

[4:31] supervisors where there's two at one

[4:33] time and then one at

[4:34] two years staggered so uh okay well then

[4:38] there's nothing for you guys to do there

[4:39] we'll

[4:40] send you something eventually okay thank

[4:42] you thank you pat

[4:45] all right uh scott kleiner county

[4:48] engineer has joined us

[4:49] so we're going to move back to meet with

[4:52] the county engineer

[5:02] okay so of course i've done blading

[5:05] on dirt and gravel roads

[5:11] did a culvert replacement of 1 10th

[5:16] and ditching some more on miracle

[5:20] further to the south and ironwood

[5:25] and um equipment maintenance

[5:29] mowing shoulders gravels and tables

[5:35] we're into yellow now on the basement

[5:38] striping

[5:39] very good and uh

[5:42] got five holes repaired on packwood road

[5:47] v64 rock hall angle

[5:51] 1 10 between green tree and ivy

[5:55] and shoulder maintenance on kelp north

[5:59] of gear

[6:00] in front of man boxes

[6:04] i got a couple rooms for you to check

[6:05] out for somebody

[6:08] just talked about that

[6:12] there's uh somebody that liked it

[6:17] and just north like just down that hill

[6:19] that first little hill

[6:21] on the west side there's a big like

[6:23] tractor tire or something right by the

[6:25] edge of the road

[6:28] well these tractors she just wanted to

[6:29] think about that

[6:31] but my point is tractors are going to

[6:33] start moving here pretty quick and

[6:35] trucks we need to get it fixed because

[6:37] it just it's the edge of the room and

[6:39] just at least now it needs a

[6:41] flag on that but

[6:45] and the other one is on nutmeg just have

[6:47] them go out and really look at that i

[6:49] did that yesterday and there's

[6:50] a couple of bitcoins on there and that's

[6:53] going to have traffic here in front of

[6:55] three weeks or so

[6:57] more um between there and selena read

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[7:08] yeah it's been awfully dry but um

[7:11] both commercial uh people are hauling

[7:14] that

[7:27] yeah well because of all the dryers

[7:43] that's where okay at with road crews

[7:46] yeah

[7:47] all right we'll move on to uh consider a

[7:50] resolution to accept

[7:51] proposal by calvin burns and associates

[7:54] for

[7:55] bridge inspection and rating program

[7:58] we have a resolution in front of it that

[8:00] says be it resolved by the jefferson

[8:02] county board of supervisors to accept

[8:04] the proposal by calvin burns and

[8:06] associates

[8:07] incorporated for the 2021 bridge

[8:10] inspection and rating program

[8:12] to be accepted for jefferson county

[8:15] by signature of the board of supervisors

[8:17] chair

[8:21] correct yes they're going to

[8:24] reinspect 79 structures in 2021

[8:29] for a long sum fee of 17 370 dollars

[8:36] there it's required that load rating

[8:39] computations

[8:40] be done including on any new

[8:43] of the rating trucks i mean meaning

[8:46] trucks that are

[8:47] now allowed to be on there that weren't

[8:50] allowed to be there before

[8:52] and uh update the scour evaluations

[8:57] do uh fracture critical inspections

[9:02] those those are bridges that if one

[9:04] component goes there's no redundancy and

[9:07] little things live ago and

[9:10] track let's see

[9:15] anyway various items there so for load

[9:18] reading computations

[9:21] those are 125 dollars each

[9:25] and it depends on how many they have to

[9:26] do and

[9:28] updated scour evaluations 105

[9:31] each bridge has that that's done on

[9:34] fraction critical 400 each and they

[9:37] estimate that those three things

[9:39] would cost around six thousand dollars

[9:44] and if there's anything else that we ask

[9:46] them to do like

[9:49] if somebody wants to take a heavy truck

[9:51] over

[9:52] for a heavier truck over a bridge

[9:57] and they give you the how their load is

[10:00] spread out

[10:01] they the boards can determine if

[10:05] we could give a special permit for that

[10:08] truck to go over

[10:09] and might be things like don't go more

[10:11] than 5 miles per hour

[10:13] and no braking on the

[10:26] to get that special permit that they

[10:29] need to pay the cost of the

[10:43] there is a charge

[10:47] that's um in the state statutes

[10:51] but over reducing

[10:54] some of the numbers of bridges

[11:01] well if we put a single tank cart on

[11:04] something that was

[11:06] a bridge before like 20 feet of greater

[11:11] then a single tank car is not going to

[11:14] be

[11:14] 20 feet or greater so that takes one out

[11:16] but if we

[11:18] come find an 18 foot long bridge and we put two tanker cars in because

[11:24] that's what it says it's supposed to

[11:25] have

[11:26] then we have a new bridge that goes on

[11:29] our

[11:29] inventory

[11:32] and someday they might rate that a

[11:36] little bit lower and we get some money

[11:37] out of

[11:38] it being a bridge but um

[11:42] tommy we have eliminated silently

[11:45] probably eliminated

[11:52] right you got you don't have any width

[11:55] restrictions anymore

[11:57] and no low limits and i'm not liable to

[12:00] have a name for

[12:02] 40 50 years

[12:07] right

[12:16] to approve the resolution all those in

[12:19] favor say hi all those opposed same sign

[12:23] motion carries

[12:50] maybe i can go back

[13:05] thank you sir

[13:10] okay we'll move on to consider a

[13:12] resolution to accept

[13:13] okay we did that one sorry um

[13:17] discuss and consider signing group

[13:19] letter

[13:20] and that would be the group clutter that

[13:22] was spoken to us at our last meeting

[13:25] about uh oversized trucks

[13:29] and um platoon type trucking

[13:32] the extra weight vehicles

[13:36] um yeah that we spoke about so

[13:40] and there's there's not on a

[13:43] signing letter really what it means is

[13:46] that um

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[14:00] yeah okay i have the motion from

[14:03] sandquest a second

[14:04] from dim it to go ahead and

[14:08] add our names to the letter that's being

[14:11] submitted for

[14:12] um reconsideration of increasing weights

[14:15] on trucking across the united states as

[14:19] well as

[14:19] through our county and the state body

[14:22] all those in favor say i all those opposed same sign

[14:27] motion carries

[14:33] it is to try and stop

[14:36] increased weights on on highways

[14:45] this doesn't change their dynamic at all

[14:48] it doesn't affect their ability to uh

[14:51] haul their their product to

[14:55] wherever right is that suggested by the

[14:59] government

[15:00] here

[15:03] okay um we're going to discuss stop sign

[15:06] on 110th

[15:07] in pleasant plain

[15:12] we've asked the mayor of pleasant plain

[15:14] to come and be with us today

[15:16] okay um thank you so much

[15:37] all right um a little bit of history on

[15:40] this

[15:41] uh previous county engineer had

[15:44] authorized a stop sign to be placed at

[15:47] west street and 110th

[15:50] street in pleasant plain which is on the

[15:54] west side of town

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[15:59] the history on it was is that uh it was

[16:02] felt that people were speeding through

[16:04] pleasant plain

[16:05] and they were wanting to use it as a

[16:07] traffic control device

[16:09] there were not warrants which are

[16:13] designations given as to whether traffic

[16:16] control devices are needed at a

[16:18] particular

[16:18] intersection because of traffic volume

[16:22] turning movements or accident history

[16:25] which this location had met none of

[16:28] those requirements

[16:31] and it's the county's position that

[16:34] the stop sign should not be there um

[16:38] it is the county highway 110th street is

[16:41] the county highway that goes to the

[16:43] west out of pleasant plain and

[16:47] uh there are some things that can be

[16:49] changed

[16:50] to lessen the speed

[16:54] coming into town by moving to signs

[16:58] locations we have proposals for that

[17:02] extending uh extending the 55 mile an

[17:06] hour speed limit

[17:08] farther to the west as you're going on

[17:10] in town

[17:11] uh changing the 55

[17:15] mile an hour speed limit that's

[17:17] currently going west

[17:19] to a 45 mile an hour speed limit at that

[17:22] location where the

[17:23] speed limit is reduced all the way to 25

[17:26] mile an hour coming in

[17:29] we lengthen the distance of the speed

[17:32] zone

[17:33] ahead area we currently have a

[17:37] sign out there that that says that

[17:40] but it's it's much closer than what it

[17:43] is

[17:45] that would make um the speed limit start reducing

[17:52] at uh which is quince

[17:56] avenue to the west

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[18:09] additional speed zone head sign

[18:13] to the west of the city london line so

[18:15] that right people are where they need to

[18:17] be

[18:17] going 45 and say london

[18:21] what input is the community

[18:31] in the letter that i sent you it was

[18:33] outlined by the

[18:34] county attorney that since it is pretty well known that the sign

[18:41] isn't enforced

[18:43] out there that it presents a hazard or a

[18:46] problem to the county in that if there

[18:48] is an accident that happens

[18:50] because someone doesn't obey the stop

[18:53] sign that's currently there

[18:55] then the sound the county can be held

[18:56] liable for what happens with that

[18:59] accident

[19:00] and with no um no

[19:03] history of that intersection or no

[19:06] turning movements

[19:07] to warrant a sign being there in the

[19:10] first place it should not have been

[19:12] erected uh is what the county's position

[19:16] is

[19:16] so that it should come down even though

[19:19] a previous county engineer

[19:21] had uh designated to put up a sign out

[19:24] there

[19:25] it was not because there was anything

[19:28] that

[19:28] actually warranted and i'm not sure

[19:37] well obviously it isn't it is

[19:40] i've seen people i pulled in there just

[19:43] to

[19:44] turn around while documenting where

[19:46] signs were

[19:47] i saw two people go through the stop

[19:49] sign

[19:50] without stopping i mean they may have

[19:52] slowed down a little bit

[19:55] um that was all it did to slow down

[20:01] and uh stop signs there's you're

[20:03] supposed to stop that there's supposed

[20:05] to be

[20:06] enforced that you come to a full stop

[20:09] there should be a stop sign coming from

[20:11] the other

[20:11] way if if it's warranted that a stop

[20:14] sign before that that low case should be

[20:17] through three will stop

[20:33] west

[20:36] and then put one up going east now

[20:39] there's both of them on both sides

[20:41] i'm going out of town from the inventory

[20:45] but out of town they can run faster

[20:49] there's nothing there they've passed the

[20:50] church already to pass

[20:52] uh west street they have to

[20:55] come back down so there's no need for

[20:57] adoption

[20:59] well if they're going into

[21:08] there's supposed to be a resolution

[21:12] or an ordinance that says that they're

[21:15] supposed to be

[21:16] they would have to say there's two stops

[21:18] on there and they

[21:19] have to be predicated on that there

[21:22] being warrants to have one there

[21:24] if people slow down to the speed limits

[21:27] that are posted

[21:28] then they shouldn't have to stop there

[21:31] let me ask a question and this is

[21:34] that's impact in here so

[21:38] first question do you know when that had

[21:42] both stop signs was that originally

[21:44] pleasant planes idea or was it just

[21:46] there

[21:48] yeah okay and that that answers that

[21:51] question

[21:51] the second part of the question then is

[21:54] if an

[21:54] ordinance is required who's required to

[21:56] pass that ordinance the city of pleasant

[21:58] plain or the county board of supervisors

[22:00] and the third part of that then is is

[22:02] that if it's the city of pleasant plain

[22:05] they pass an ordinance is it not their

[22:07] responsibility to enforce that

[22:08] organization

[22:10] oh populations below 500.

[22:14] so i mean i'll let that

[22:17] yeah did you hear the questions that lee

[22:21] had

[22:22] yes i did uh so this is a county roadway um

[22:29] and so it's um

[22:32] as such the county has jurisdiction over that roadway

[22:36] uh kind of like highway one running

[22:38] through the city of fairfield right

[22:41] so it would be the county's

[22:45] uh responsibility to do that and it

[22:48] would be

[22:50] whether it's the county's responsibility

[22:51] or the city's responsibility to enforce

[22:53] uh the sheriff provides

[22:55] uh uh you know

[22:58] law enforcement coverage for pleasant

[23:00] planes so we're really talking about the

[23:02] same entity

[23:04] so let me go back to you said about

[23:08] highway one but there are stop lights

[23:09] along highway one now i'm not advocating

[23:11] i'll keep the stop sign i just want to

[23:13] be clear

[23:14] there's stop lights along highway one

[23:16] that a local

[23:17] law enforcement can write me a ticket

[23:19] for running that stoplight

[23:22] any law enforcement can write a write a

[23:24] ticket for violation of a traffic

[23:26] ordinance but you said whose authority

[23:28] or whose responsibility is it uh you

[23:30] know each municipality has

[23:32] a law enforcement um

[23:36] provides law enforcement for their

[23:37] community pleasant plane does that by

[23:40] contracting with our sheriff's office

[23:41] so our sheriff's office can do it but

[23:43] the state patrol could do it

[23:44] anybody that saw it could do it right

[23:47] but who established the stoplight is

[23:48] what i'm saying to the city of fairfield

[23:51] or did the state of iowa uh i'm guessing

[23:54] it was a joint

[23:55] thing because you can't we can't the

[23:57] city can't put anything

[23:59] uh on highway one without approval from

[24:02] the state

[24:02] okay that answer that's what i wanted to

[24:05] know is it's so this is

[24:06] we're actually almost comparing apples

[24:08] to apples here

[24:10] well except that we have jurisdiction on

[24:12] wasn't playing right

[24:13] that's what i'm saying so if we were in

[24:16] agreement with pleasant plane we could

[24:18] establish that stop sign

[24:20] uh sort of sort of okay

[24:24] uh i'm looking at the the statute that

[24:27] is

[24:27] of concern for um our office chelsea

[24:30] talk to me a little bit about this this

[24:32] morning before he left but um

[24:35] it's in the code state code that talks

[24:38] about traffic enforcement it says that

[24:41] um you know drivers have to follow uh

[24:43] traffic control devices

[24:46] placed in accordance with the provisions

[24:47] this chapter and the provisions of the

[24:49] chapter say that local authorities

[24:51] in their respective jurisdictions shall

[24:54] place and maintain

[24:55] traffic control devices upon highways in

[24:57] their jurisdiction

[24:58] as they deem necessary and as

[25:02] uh as indicated uh

[25:05] by the state manual and specifications

[25:09] so when scott's talking about whether

[25:11] it's warranted or not and whether it

[25:12] meets the criteria

[25:15] those are things that need to be

[25:19] taken care of in order for the sign to

[25:21] be properly placed and if the sign is

[25:23] not properly placed

[25:25] and we actually catch somebody run that

[25:27] stop sign and they come in and they

[25:29] say look this this sign is not warranted

[25:31] or it's not properly placed

[25:33] then we can't prosecute it okay

[25:36] so it's not just a matter of counting

[25:38] degrees city agrees we're just going to

[25:39] put it up

[25:40] um there's more to it than that and so

[25:42] that's what scott's talking about in

[25:43] terms of whether it's warranted or not

[25:45] warranted and what the studies show

[25:47] and the appropriate way under the manual

[25:50] to

[25:51] regulate traffic uh given the data

[25:54] and if if those things don't um

[25:58] aren't all in line um then

[26:01] uh enforcement on the legal side can be

[26:04] very difficult

[26:05] if not uh you know prohibited

[26:08] so it's um those are the things that

[26:10] concern us

[26:12] so by definition scott it's not

[26:14] warranted

[26:15] okay

[26:18] how much traffic goes through there in a

[26:20] day

[26:22] there's a hundred 180 vehicle count i

[26:25] believe it is

[26:26] coming through there um on the east west

[26:29] road

[26:30] right and we don't have a count

[26:33] on west street

[26:42] yeah that's the 180 vehicles per day

[26:50] on both ways yeah that would be going

[26:52] both directions

[27:01] yes they call that an average count

[27:08] so

[27:14] we can't take no action

[27:17] on it we can't authorize him to remove

[27:21] it but i don't think we need to he has

[27:22] the authority to do that because it

[27:24] doesn't mean

[27:25] i understand that right now doesn't meet

[27:26] the requirements and i don't believe

[27:28] there was a resolution by the county to

[27:30] ever put it out there in the first place

[27:32] that the board would have approved

[27:37] i don't remember tom ever coming before

[27:44] but again

[27:50] we don't have the authority to take any

[27:52] action but i don't think we need to have

[27:54] the authority because i think it falls

[27:55] under the engineer

[27:56] adam

[28:00] i i think that um i think that you're

[28:03] right

[28:04] uh one okay

[28:10] there we go oh my god

[28:16] no i think i think you're right i mean i

[28:18] you know unless there was

[28:19] some official action that needs to be

[28:21] undone uh

[28:23] then i don't think you need to take any

[28:25] official action

[28:26] here uh i think it's part of the county

[28:28] engineer's responsibility to

[28:30] you know maintain signage along our

[28:32] roadways just as i read

[28:34] and that includes uh removing

[28:38] of signs that are not appropriate we've

[28:39] done that in other instances where

[28:41] things have been posted by

[28:42] you know adjoining landowners or

[28:45] whatever

[28:46] and so that would be similar the thing

[28:47] is that this has been at that location

[28:49] for a while so

[28:50] you probably you know it is appropriate

[28:52] to sort of publicize it

[28:54] and make sure that people are aware that

[28:56] you know that uh that intersection

[28:58] um is changing um and uh you know do our

[29:02] best to get our information out there

[29:04] well we would need to go ahead people if

[29:07] we're going to do the

[29:08] speed limit and pass

[29:12] resolution regarding that i don't have

[29:14] anything ready on that i've

[29:16] been wanting to see what the board and

[29:20] pat and the mayor might all have to say

[29:23] about it today

[29:27] well i mean obviously uh

[29:30] according to the county attorney's

[29:32] office falls into your jurisdiction and

[29:35] if you want to change the signs

[29:36] your resolution to do something but

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[29:53] i mean you can check it out and uh pick

[29:56] up

[29:56] 90 percent of the people that go through

[29:58] there well i

[29:59] think to play devil's advocate if they

[30:02] don't look at the speed limit signs they

[30:03] don't look at the stop sign either

[30:05] which well i know the stop sign slows

[30:07] them down

[30:10] well that's the only thing

[30:14] and that's an excellent point you

[30:15] brought up an excellent point and that's

[30:17] exactly goes back to the point that that

[30:19] was making

[30:20] that because they blow through it

[30:23] even though they're they're slowing down

[30:25] in their 170 they're going through the

[30:27] 45 they're going through it

[30:29] which proves the county at risk

[30:32] if an accident occurs there because a

[30:49] in your argument you actually

[30:52] um make the point uh like

[30:55] against keeping this behind there okay

[30:59] if anything why not

[31:44] or

[31:49] because nothing's right nothing's ever

[31:51] happened to put it up there in the first

[31:53] place

[31:54] and it's not been warranted there's not

[31:56] been a resolution

[31:57] it's just simply a unenforceable

[32:01] uh sound it's not unlike a situation

[32:05] it's it's not exactly apples to apples

[32:07] but it's not unlike the situation we had

[32:09] out at osage

[32:12] we had two deaths on osage since they

[32:14] put in the bypass

[32:16] and we as the board of supervisors felt

[32:19] that was an unsafe um intersection

[32:23] and it needed to be changed and we asked

[32:26] the dod for safety monitoring and they

[32:28] would give me the determination that it

[32:29] was not

[32:30] a safety issue what criteria they used i

[32:34] don't know

[32:35] but my point simply is is that

[32:38] in this particular instance beauty is

[32:40] not in the eyes of the beholder wrapped

[32:42] forward

[32:43] business safety ain't you coming into

[32:47] town

[32:47] because you get overtime over with

[32:50] vehicles

[32:52] they don't pay attention to the stop

[32:54] sign

[32:57] and boys shouldn't be stopping down

[33:00] why can't the stop sign be there when

[33:02] literally was there 13 years

[33:04] ago how are you becoming illegal now

[33:07] i don't have an answer for

[33:20] and maybe it wasn't legal 13 years ago

[33:23] but it was put in 13 years ago illegally

[33:26] how do you know it wasn't an ordinance

[33:28] did you like that

[33:29] yes we did there is an ordinance

[33:38] well there's definitely no possibility

[33:41] of it being awarded to one stop sign

[33:43] from one direction

[33:45] um if it was warranted to put it in

[33:49] going um from the west to the east that

[33:53] it should have been warranted to go in

[33:54] there from the east to the west

[33:56] uh it would but wow

[34:01] it wasn't necessarily warranted it was

[34:03] just

[34:05] would have been there if there were two

[34:07] stops on it but you still have to

[34:11] have a warranted stop signs needed there

[34:14] and

[34:14] you have to get a resolution or an

[34:18] ordinance that

[34:20] says that there's going to be a stop

[34:22] sign and that makes it enforceable

[34:25] and we don't have any of that there and

[34:28] don't it's not really worth it to put a

[34:30] stop sign there

[34:32] okay if people are going the speed

[34:33] limits that

[34:35] are posted there then they're then

[34:37] they're not going to have an accident at

[34:39] that

[34:40] intersection because of somebody coming

[34:42] from the west

[34:43] i mean coming from west avenue west

[34:45] street whether it

[34:58] are the conflict vehicles and uh

[35:02] there's no church there's not that many

[35:06] so i mean you're supposed to warn it as

[35:08] to whether it's going to be a crash

[35:10] there

[35:10] because of somebody a lot of

[35:14] vehicles coming out of west street not

[35:16] turning them inside

[35:21] and if people are going to speeds that

[35:23] are posted there then that's not going to happen people

[35:27] are going to stop at west street to let

[35:29] the vehicle go by let's go in the speed

[35:31] limit

[35:33] there's no one's creeping in my way yeah

[35:35] we're not dropping

[35:36] that's what you own for us is the speed

[35:38] limit okay but we ain't got no way

[35:41] it's impossible to put up a pre-sign

[35:44] that says

[35:45] fashion slow ahead or you know how you

[35:47] see these

[35:48] well my idea is to put up the signs that

[35:52] have the arrow ahead with the seat there

[35:55] and that tends to so people found more

[36:09] right well out on um

[36:13] gear yeah gear and we looked at an

[36:17] intersection there

[36:19] and we didn't choose to put a four-way

[36:21] stop there we

[36:22] put uh revise the speed limit head signs

[36:26] and

[36:27] different different things so that when

[36:29] you got

[36:30] not necessarily at that intersection

[36:32] with the kelp then

[36:33] once you got into town with uh gear at

[36:36] 12

[36:38] it's a lot more noticeable now that it's

[36:41] 25 miles per hour

[36:42] on the west side of that intersection

[36:45] than it was when the side was in the

[36:47] shade on the

[36:48] east side of that intersection

[36:53] but oh there's there's countless

[36:55] examples but one thing

[36:57] is you're never supposed to use the stop

[37:00] sign

[37:00] just simply for speed control it's not

[37:04] warranted

[37:05] for that it's rewarded by

[37:08] your conflicts that you have at an

[37:10] intersection

[37:12] and with people going through not not

[37:15] paying attention or

[37:16] obeying that stop sign that's there now

[37:19] you're not getting

[37:21] it's not uh effective the way it is

[37:25] there's a lot of obey and then who's

[37:28] going to be your

[37:28] uncle who wants to get killed and they

[37:30] can't find out

[37:33] but there's no indication whatsoever

[37:36] that taking the stock sign out

[37:37] is going to increase or decrease

[37:40] accidents now are you taking the b3

[37:44] would you close the door the feed limit

[37:46] fine i'm going to slow traffic

[37:51] [Music]

[38:02] guess when it gets a ticket you're gonna

[38:05] get them there

[38:06] i guess it would be the sheriff's

[38:08] department yeah but they just had to

[38:10] re-talk on their own

[38:16] they sit and talk on their phones at the

[38:18] north in the town not the south end of

[38:20] town

[38:23] not the north end of the town where they

[38:25] could be

[38:28] but i've never seen anybody here

[38:51] but then they'd have to come and ask

[38:52] permission from the county to be able to

[38:54] put it up on that location

[38:55] right i think well the sheriff has

[39:00] sheriff's office can put out a uh sign

[39:03] that

[39:04] indicates how fast people are coming in

[39:06] yeah right

[39:07] and they've they've just did that

[39:09] recently

[39:11] out here on grimes and it seems

[39:14] but i've noticed it seems to slow people

[39:16] down

[39:18] and i probably want to when we put up

[39:21] those signs you probably

[39:22] want the sheriff's office to put their

[39:26] radar detection with the speed

[39:29] indication sign out there for a while

[39:31] and make people more aware of the fact

[39:33] that

[39:34] they need to slow down

[39:42] oh you had another there was another

[39:45] stop sign and another

[39:46] small community that they put up just

[39:50] from one direction

[39:52] with the thought of speed control but

[39:54] that has since been

[39:56] removed by everybody's agreement so

[40:04] well this ain't getting no place um well

[40:07] can we have this term can i have to turn

[40:13] sure that's that's perfectly fine we

[40:16] don't have a meeting

[40:18] about the third monday of each month so

[40:20] it'll be

[40:24] third monday in september which is

[40:27] uh

[40:30] 24th of september okay

[40:34] now before it ever

[40:38] go ahead with the resolutions about

[40:40] speed limits because

[40:42] those are reasonable anyway and uh

[40:46] go ahead and do that i mean well yeah

[40:48] you can have everything all

[40:50] put in place ready to go but we can wait

[40:53] until the 21st of september

[40:55] uh after their counter of your city

[40:58] attorney has had

[40:58] a chance to look at everything that the

[41:00] county attorney has looked at

[41:02] when it comes to this so that uh

[41:08] just for a matter of uh

[41:11] i don't know but reach out to your city

[41:14] attorney and have them

[41:16] contact county attorney's office and

[41:33] harvest season and

[41:36] do you have any objections about what

[41:39] putting on the speed limit

[41:42] out there at the city limit line and

[41:46] then

[41:46] you might

[41:55] it is the county accounting jurisdiction

[41:59] on that

[42:00] because of the i mean even through town

[42:03] because they have less than 500

[42:06] population

[42:08] which is not like fairfield

[42:12] where fairfield would really have to say

[42:15] um

[42:16] roads going through therapy

[42:22] okay all right

[42:26] we'll look to talk to you on the 21st

[42:29] what time is your meetings

[42:31] seven o'clock and where the uh community

[42:39] yep okay thank you

[42:51] all right

[43:03] so next we're going to move on to

[43:05] discuss and consider board of

[43:07] supervisors civil service commission we

[43:09] already did that

[43:17] now we're going to discuss and consider

[43:19] weed commissioner change

[43:23] okay we each received um

[43:26] letters on this

[43:30] um i gotta send your phone like a

[43:33] comment before we start

[43:35] it would have been helpful to do this at

[43:37] the start of the budget here this

[43:39] is coming because florida health got

[43:43] this piece

[43:43] back to them within budget year

[43:47] and all this kind of stuff should not be

[43:49] p small that should go as a package

[43:52] just my personal opinion

[43:56] well i i yeah

[44:08] and uh

[44:11] so i reached out to brent to scott

[44:15] and i also called mark and i talked to

[44:17] melissa

[44:19] and while certainly what what dan

[44:23] is is recommending is

[44:26] can be done um

[44:30] it does increase

[44:36] does require reporting changes in terms

[44:38] of

[44:39] salaries

[44:49] and if um we control this work

[44:53] then it has to be designated on this

[44:57] time sheet for lack of a better word

[44:59] which would

[45:00] fall to the responsibility of both the

[45:02] individual trying to keep track

[45:04] of time which agreement for

[45:07] real that it would be minimal but

[45:09] nonetheless keep track of the time

[45:11] then report that time to mark who then

[45:14] adjusts

[45:16] their time sheet to reflect what portion

[45:19] comes out of their own department what

[45:20] portion comes out of the recommendation

[45:23] uh our road crew generally speaking i

[45:25] think scott and i are in agreement with

[45:27] this they're paying attention to the

[45:28] road as well they should be

[45:33] and we never have had somebody go out

[45:36] and just

[45:37] you know cruise down the road and look

[45:38] to see if d you've got

[45:40] noxious weeds we recognize that

[45:46] we state that the property owner is

[45:50] responsible for the noxious means of the

[45:52] nation

[45:53] not the county so it's their

[45:55] responsibility to mitigate those

[45:58] whatever they happen to be um

[46:02] i think correctly from wrongdoing we

[46:04] pretty well handle it by complaint

[46:05] or if you happen to be out there in the

[46:07] second video

[46:09] right

[46:12] so it goes back to what i said you know

[46:14] our road crew guys are out doing

[46:16] something they're not specific unless

[46:18] you know unless you get a complaint then

[46:21] brent must have to go out respond would

[46:23] have to go out or you

[46:24] send billy out or whatever my point is that

[46:28] um

[46:32] we have budgeted three thousand dollars

[46:35] to recommission wheat commission is

[46:36] under the board of supervisors

[46:38] and correctly points that out uh i did

[46:41] talk to those hudson they're willing to

[46:42] take it on and do it while they're doing

[46:44] their nuisance work

[46:46] and you know when they're going out and

[46:48] in fact in a lot of instances it might

[46:50] aid in a better nuisance a little bit

[46:51] because a lot of the weeds and stuff

[46:53] that we run into on property are

[46:55] not just wheat

[46:58] and so it would be

[47:01] i don't know if we i don't know that i

[47:03] would say that it would be

[47:06] um don't misunderstand how this sounds

[47:09] any greater coverage or any i mean okay

[47:12] what we're just simply saying is is that

[47:14] in the process

[47:15] and again if there's a complaint as does

[47:18] damn

[47:19] they would review it but there would be

[47:22] they would do it for the three thousand

[47:24] dollars

[47:26] how much time do you spend in the air

[47:28] again

[47:30] average the average over the past nine

[47:33] years was 49

[47:35] hours a year this past fiscal year was

[47:38] 61 hours

[47:41] what was the uh increase due to

[47:44] well that was averaged over nine years

[47:48] right but this last year you said there

[47:51] was 61.

[47:52] so it's gradually gone up as people you

[47:55] know now

[47:56] they've called me to complain about

[47:57] leading up the website on the

[48:01] third week county website

[48:06] okay and i do of the three thousand

[48:08] dollars that

[48:09] uh is allowed to you what portion of

[48:12] that goes to your recertification

[48:14] and um schooling that's required

[48:18] of the weed commissioner there's

[48:20] publication

[48:22] so that's part of the budget every every

[48:25] april

[48:25] put out a public legal code and then

[48:29] uh education um

[48:34] i usually go to the aims to the

[48:37] wheat commissioner's conference right so

[48:39] there's cross

[48:40] there it's about 300 right

[48:43] here um and then the rest

[48:47] is for actually the

[48:50] rest of it is really for if you need to

[48:52] hire somebody

[48:53] go out and do spraying or mowing

[48:57] like a third party to go on some of your

[49:00] property and do that work

[49:02] which i've never had to do that i've had

[49:05] to write letters and then have the

[49:06] attorney

[49:07] i'll write legal letters to people

[49:10] and usually they'll respond

[49:13] so i haven't had that but the total of that three thousand dollars all

[49:19] of those things that you just spoke

[49:21] about

[49:21] come out of that three thousand dollars

[49:23] minus what you

[49:25] your hourly rate is when you're out

[49:27] there with it

[49:29] so we're not talking about just three

[49:32] thousand dollars here we're talking

[49:34] probably in the vicinity of it

[49:38] okay just a second ago you said it

[49:40] didn't so that was why i was asking

[49:42] again publication

[49:46] education and then if we did need to

[49:49] hire someone

[49:50] which i've never had to so that money's

[49:52] been spent on that

[49:54] so and then about nine years ago

[49:58] the board of supervisors said the

[50:01] recommissioner's budget

[50:02] can

[50:07] basically pay the environmental health

[50:10] department

[50:10] for the time that the sanitarians spent

[50:12] on weekends so

[50:14] the beginning when i first took it on

[50:16] which was

[50:17] supervisor said oh by the way the

[50:19] sanitarian usually does the wheat

[50:20] pressure

[50:22] so there's no there's no um

[50:25] [Music]

[50:26] compensation for the time that the

[50:28] sanitarium

[50:29] spent on means the first like six years

[50:35] and then board decided to do that

[50:37] compensation

[50:38] so that's

[50:52] yes

[50:59] as far as russ goes we don't

[51:01] particularly have a dog behind it's just

[51:02] simply

[51:03] i didn't get the impression from scott

[51:04] that he was particularly enamored with

[51:06] the idea um

[51:08] but as i look at it with the 61 hours

[51:11] we're talking about an hour a week i

[51:12] mean how can that be

[51:15] um no i'm not i'm not

[51:18] completely oblivious to the fact that

[51:20] you may have six hours this week

[51:22] and no hours for the next six weeks i

[51:24] understand

[51:26] what my my point simply is is that

[51:29] if all we're required to do is have a

[51:32] wheat commissioner

[51:34] and put out public notice

[51:38] uh and respond to complaints i don't

[51:40] think

[51:41] um if the situation

[51:45] needed to be that we needed to go out

[51:47] and spray something we have people that

[51:48] can do that without hiring it

[51:51] to the outsider

[51:55] but we wouldn't be doing it on private

[51:56] land anyway it would be the

[51:57] responsibility of the proper home to do

[51:59] it on private land

[52:00] they've been noticed that they're being

[52:03] uh or there's

[52:04] they've been certain notice that they

[52:05] need to eradicate the weeds now unless

[52:07] what you're saying is that they don't

[52:09] you do

[52:10] right if they don't then then is that

[52:12] where we've already got the legal

[52:14] requirement to actually

[52:15] then is that charged back to the

[52:17] property owner yeah

[52:21] and i'm not what i'm saying is is that

[52:24] um

[52:26] it if we'd act strictly on complaint

[52:31] um then i see

[52:35] i don't see the need to budget three

[52:36] thousand dollars a year

[52:38] number one number two uh if we act

[52:41] strictly on complaint then i suppose

[52:45] you know branch or somebody from the

[52:47] engineer's office could run out and see whether or not then you've got

[52:50] to write the laws i guess the question

[52:52] amen

[52:56] and so what i'm saying is that

[52:59] without increasing the budget we have an

[53:01] entity that can do

[53:02] all of that right okay

[53:05] however into darren's thought process i

[53:08] think

[53:08] is and to dance we don't generally spend

[53:11] the entire enchilada

[53:13] during the course of the year correct

[53:15] but in this case if we uh gave it to

[53:22] for us it would be the entire enchilada

[53:25] they would make sure that they had a

[53:26] certification they could do this

[53:28] i mean they you know as far as that

[53:30] aspect of it goes

[53:32] but why can't they just absorb this and

[53:35] what they're doing already

[53:38] i'm not saying that they can't i'm

[53:40] saying that

[53:41] um

[53:45] taking i mean i mean i could certainly

[53:47] ask that question

[53:49] for that

[54:05] it's like what's next you know there's

[54:07] public health

[54:08] board gets

[54:16] i asked dan that question are we talking

[54:18] immediately are we talking about

[54:20] the fiscal year his comment was

[54:23] immediately

[54:24] or you know he wanted to write the

[54:25] letter to bring everybody up to speed

[54:28] and so that's the reason that we're

[54:31] discussing it now

[54:32] is because yeah

[54:46] i don't know that's just my initial

[54:48] feeling i don't think

[54:49] the hours that you're putting in and i

[54:51] don't mean this this recently i just

[54:53] don't think it's an inordinate amount of

[54:54] time

[54:55] that you produced your hours at uh

[54:58] you know to the board of health but you

[55:00] also knew what you were getting into

[55:02] when you asked to do that

[55:04] you've

[55:20] [Music]

[55:32] so they're paying no to do it no

[55:35] that was he talking now you just told

[55:37] him you just told him

[55:39] up until this year up until

[55:42] fiscal year 21 there's no reimbursement

[55:47] from the commissioner's budget to the

[55:49] environmental health

[55:52] i must have misunderstood i thought it

[55:54] used to be yes

[55:55] i misunderstood as well i think what dan

[55:58] is saying

[55:59] if chris was here i think she would say

[56:01] correct because i know i've had

[56:02] conversations

[56:03] with her in past years where they do

[56:06] track

[56:07] how much of his time is spent

[56:10] right so i don't think

[56:13] it has been now we should check with

[56:15] chris before we

[56:17] verify that here's the reason we

[56:20] checked with chris and and my assumption

[56:23] was the same as darren's

[56:24] mine was two based on

[56:28] years that three thousand dollars it was

[56:31] for the cost

[56:32] of the week commission now

[56:35] if if you know if nobody's invoiced or

[56:39] has been reimbursed or

[56:40] he didn't he didn't what do you want to

[56:43] call it

[56:44] uh provide a claim whatever the case may

[56:46] be the money was there for that purpose

[56:48] that's the reason the board put that

[56:50] look if we're not going to do

[56:53] if all the dan's done up to this point

[56:56] and i'm not saying this is small i'm

[56:57] just saying all that's been done up to

[56:58] this point is

[56:59] the public notice the writing of the

[57:02] letters

[57:03] uh and you know potentially all we ever

[57:06] have the hiring

[57:07] of somebody to go out and spray

[57:10] but we've never paid for it there was no

[57:12] point to have three thousand dollars set

[57:14] aside in that bucket and there still

[57:15] isn't

[57:17] you know now this year uh

[57:21] i don't know what made this year

[57:22] different other than you've reduced your

[57:24] hours so is the board of health getting

[57:26] reimbursed or are you getting paid

[57:29] so part of the negotiation to lower my

[57:33] hours

[57:33] lower my cost was because russ said

[57:37] they would do the week commissioner part

[57:40] of it

[57:40] for nothing that's right

[57:44] okay and i said okay i will do it

[57:48] environmental health will do it for zero

[57:51] and that's for this fiscal year

[57:52] prior to this fiscal year yeah i would

[57:55] turn in a claim at the end of the year

[57:57] for the time that i spent doing

[58:00] commissioner

[58:00] things and therefore i would get

[58:03] reimbursed from the lead commissioner

[58:06] environmental health would get

[58:08] reimbursed from the weak commissioner's

[58:10] budget

[58:11] for that time that i spent okay so

[58:13] that's not going to happen this year all

[58:15] right

[58:16] is that am i making myself clear yeah

[58:18] okay so

[58:19] it has been in the past you've changed

[58:21] it to this year that's right

[58:22] okay i misunderstood but i go back to my

[58:26] point

[58:26] it's it's not under the jurisdiction for

[58:28] the board of health

[58:30] we could still not pay you correct

[58:34] or to reimburse them for the time that

[58:36] you spend on that as part of the

[58:37] partnership

[58:38] so i guess the question then that needs

[58:40] to be answered from your

[58:42] perspective because you're the one

[58:43] that's out there in the weeds

[58:48] is our construction business in the

[58:53] unincorporated areas of the county

[58:55] so good uh

[58:58] or in those communities that aren't

[59:02] seward as we don't have it in account

[59:06] um are we so busy that

[59:09] uh it takes all your time now to do that

[59:11] as opposed to one hour a week well it's not what i wanted to

[59:16] point out so

[59:21] and i'm doing state mosquito

[59:23] surveillance

[59:24] right now so that's three three times a

[59:26] week i have to collect these fields

[59:28] that brings in more revenue in the whole

[59:31] commissioner budget

[59:32] okay and then i have the pool

[59:35] inspections painting inspections tattoo

[59:37] inspections

[59:38] i do i usually do the state well survey

[59:40] too

[59:41] this time here they decided not to do it

[59:44] this year but they usually do it this

[59:45] time

[59:46] um it's just and of course

[59:50] septic systems climate transfers

[59:53] how many steps

[59:57] uh it was probably around 65 or so

[1:00:03] and what time did they putting in

[1:00:06] yeah mostly standard brokers

[1:00:14] and then and then there's time and

[1:00:16] transfer instructions

[1:00:17] that which brought in last let's go here

[1:00:23] so i'm going to go back to you um

[1:00:27] if i am stating this incorrectly please

[1:00:30] say so but i

[1:00:31] felt like that you would prefer not

[1:00:33] being

[1:00:34] or in the engineering department or in

[1:00:36] the room commissioner

[1:00:40] um

[1:00:44] i can reach out to see

[1:00:48] what arrangements can be made

[1:00:53] do you want to wait

[1:00:56] i want to be here do you want to wait

[1:00:58] till budget time before you make the

[1:01:00] change and let this fiscal year

[1:01:01] close i mean that's insane this will

[1:01:04] kind of depend on what russ

[1:01:05] says partially but that's my preference

[1:01:16] well things can be overlooked when it

[1:01:18] comes to budget time

[1:01:20] that this was changed in september

[1:01:23] and now we're in march and it's like

[1:01:26] well what did we do then as soon as you

[1:01:29] remember oh yeah that was only part of

[1:01:31] the year

[1:01:32] right right when you look back

[1:01:36] guys the opportunity into the budget

[1:01:39] year

[1:01:40] to uh just say russ says no

[1:01:43] we're not going to do it that way it

[1:01:44] gives you the opportunity to explore

[1:01:46] other options before you make a decision

[1:01:48] right now it's kind of rushed

[1:01:50] right

[1:01:55] actually it's a good time to bring it so

[1:01:57] this is time to

[1:01:59] look at options right

[1:02:02] i think if there's some

[1:02:06] kind of engineering departments out

[1:02:09] there to

[1:02:11] take care of the wheat conditioning i

[1:02:13] mean they must have

[1:02:14] i mean there's some people that have

[1:02:16] somebody that takes care of all the

[1:02:18] planting

[1:02:20] and doesn't does a lot of things

[1:02:23] with um with those kinds of related

[1:02:27] issues

[1:02:28] but it's still all in the right way i

[1:02:30] mean i don't know how you have

[1:02:33] i guess we should actually speak to

[1:02:37] one of these counties that are listed

[1:02:38] here johnson musk

[1:02:40] team scott benton iowa dallas

[1:02:43] des moines henry and wapelo counties

[1:02:46] have their wheat commissioners

[1:02:48] on their county roadways so

[1:02:51] henry and wappalow are smaller than

[1:02:55] i think the rest of those

[1:02:58] like scott county they they've got

[1:03:00] probably three times as many staffers

[1:03:03] well that's the thing that's the thing

[1:03:05] if if

[1:03:07] you reach out to these counties um

[1:03:11] and i can call their county supervisors

[1:03:13] and i can talk to mark at the next

[1:03:15] school meeting okay the reason i say

[1:03:16] that is is because i would like to know

[1:03:18] whether or not they have somebody on

[1:03:20] staff

[1:03:20] time that does that what their policies

[1:03:24] are before it's not going to be a

[1:03:27] decision that i make but i think it's

[1:03:29] information about me

[1:03:31] because if we're talking if we're

[1:03:32] talking about what we're doing with dan

[1:03:35] and maybe we've taken advantage of dan

[1:03:37] over the years but if we're talking

[1:03:38] about what we're doing with dan as

[1:03:39] opposed to

[1:03:40] bringing a body on you know even

[1:03:43] part-time

[1:03:44] with benefits i in other words paying

[1:03:46] the ideas paying me

[1:03:47] um and maybe we've had the best of both

[1:03:50] worlds here

[1:03:51] i'm not saying that we haven't but um

[1:03:54] here's an opportunity to get all your

[1:03:56] ducks involved before you make a

[1:03:57] decision

[1:03:58] right and i know maybe that's not what

[1:04:01] you want at this point but we're

[1:04:03] you know we're about three and

[1:04:07] we're starting we're not even through

[1:04:09] the first

[1:04:10] quarter of this fiscal year

[1:04:13] so yeah no i didn't that might be one of

[1:04:17] the decisions and that's fine i just

[1:04:19] felt content

[1:04:20] because i put environmental health first

[1:04:24] and then

[1:04:26] [Music]

[1:04:38] and go ahead and talk to bruce let's see

[1:04:39] what he says

[1:04:41] so like you say now is a good time to

[1:04:42] have a discussion so we can get some

[1:04:44] information

[1:04:47] so i will i'll do that what scott's

[1:04:50] preference is

[1:04:52] um

[1:05:07] if you could just look those up and then

[1:05:09] email me

[1:05:10] well especially henry because that's one

[1:05:12] yeah but i can call i can call

[1:05:14] greg muller and i can call jerry parker

[1:05:17] and get those answers

[1:05:18] it's just you know or jim carrey for des

[1:05:21] moines county in fact i have a meeting

[1:05:23] with well not with jerry with reagan and

[1:05:27] jim um about two weeks so i can bring that up you know as far as

[1:05:33] that part goes

[1:05:34] um

[1:05:40] so we're going to reach out to those

[1:05:42] folks

[1:05:44] but it may be appropriate to to

[1:05:47] reach out to the engineer's office

[1:06:03] if they're reimbursed that way or if

[1:06:05] that's just

[1:06:06] a duty that's covered by the road

[1:06:08] department

[1:06:09] they may have an assistant a county

[1:06:12] engineer to the assistant county

[1:06:13] engineer i don't know

[1:06:16] just they may have multiple duties of

[1:06:18] course now aaron has mentioned that he's

[1:06:20] got a couple hours a week that he's

[1:06:22] trying to fill

[1:06:23] so anyway one other thing

[1:06:28] [Music]

[1:06:51] they need to be certified because

[1:06:53] they're actually uh

[1:06:55] they're doing they're not they're not

[1:07:11] so to operate the boomer you have to be

[1:07:15] certified

[1:07:16] uh because it it has some

[1:07:19] amount of uh herbicide in the blades protecting the ground

[1:07:39] looking for

[1:07:45] there's certain properties where where

[1:07:48] the county owns the land

[1:07:50] next to the road so we take care of

[1:07:53] those

[1:07:53] but it would be an expansion of duties

[1:07:57] to be

[1:07:58] having to deal with private property

[1:08:00] owners

[1:08:03] and and nobody in the office was

[1:08:08] certified

[1:08:10] okay all right we'll bring this up later

[1:08:14] and uh we'll have more discussion on it

[1:08:17] before the

[1:08:18] uh budget time starts thank you yep

[1:08:21] thank you all right let's uh move on

[1:08:24] to discuss and consider property tax

[1:08:27] suspensions

[1:08:31] um yeah that would be good

[1:09:13] appears we have four of these

[1:09:16] that we're looking at while we're still

[1:09:19] waiting for mark

[1:09:21] and this is the annual

[1:09:25] oh and that yes sorry i

[1:09:28] missed that one laying in my pile thank

[1:09:30] you abby

[1:09:32] i appreciate that so we have five

[1:09:35] actually that we're looking at

[1:09:45] all uh right talking about the

[1:09:49] property tax suspensions

[1:09:52] um we have four of them

[1:09:56] laid out here that your office and one

[1:09:59] that's a

[1:10:00] written request um

[1:10:03] [Music]

[1:10:04] is there any comments or anything that

[1:10:07] we need to know about this

[1:10:08] and how this is going to reflect most of

[1:10:11] it

[1:10:14] um

[1:10:18] but the ones from dhs are basically

[1:10:23] right which are the four that we have

[1:10:26] printed

[1:10:27] from your offices okay so i would make a

[1:10:31] motion

[1:10:31] to approve those property tax

[1:10:33] suspensions

[1:10:35] uh that were eligible through dhs

[1:10:40] okay we have four of them that were

[1:10:43] approved through

[1:10:44] dhs we have emotions from endemic and a

[1:10:47] second from sandquist

[1:10:49] to approve those all those in favor say

[1:10:52] aye

[1:10:54] all those opposed same sign motion

[1:10:56] carries

[1:10:58] all right now uh this one concerning the

[1:11:01] johnsons

[1:11:06] is there anything specific that we need

[1:11:09] to know about this mark

[1:11:10] that is coming through your office

[1:11:22] no this was a written request

[1:11:26] coming through this is the one that has

[1:11:28] gone

[1:11:29] through the usda it was best road

[1:11:32] from a mortgage way back in the early

[1:11:34] 90s

[1:11:35] and somehow we

[1:11:38] were doing suspensions

[1:11:41] as though they weren't through dhs after

[1:11:46] quite a bit of looking into it

[1:11:50] on our part we found that that is

[1:11:53] supposed to be escrow

[1:11:54] the usda is supposed to be taking care

[1:11:56] of it so in that sense

[1:11:58] mr johnson is correct the part that mr

[1:12:01] johnson didn't understand was

[1:12:02] he still opposed that but that's between

[1:12:05] him and the usda

[1:12:06] so these taxes should not be suspended

[1:12:09] because the usda should be paying them

[1:12:12] as they are

[1:12:13] okay and the fact is is that he was

[1:12:16] paying his monthly well

[1:12:18] for state of uh

[1:12:22] and they were supposed to be setting

[1:12:24] aside x amount of dollars out of that

[1:12:26] taxes they failed to do so it's his

[1:12:29] property

[1:12:30] so to speak and he's responsible for it

[1:12:34] but he gave them the money this is

[1:12:37] sorry i don't know no no that's fine

[1:12:39] this wasn't the

[1:12:41] same there was that guy that was in here

[1:12:46] not long ago

[1:13:01] no this is the one that comes every year

[1:13:06] so it's good information to know that

[1:13:09] yeah there was quite a bit of

[1:13:13] a past new balance right that usda

[1:13:16] has taken

[1:13:26] so there's there's really no action that

[1:13:29] the board can take when it comes to this

[1:13:31] application

[1:13:32] then that's what we're hearing doesn't

[1:13:34] it

[1:13:35] okay are you still on if we don't act on

[1:13:38] it

[1:13:39] yes pat is still with us yes make sure

[1:13:42] do we just just simply by motion deny

[1:13:45] the application or is there some warning that we need to include in

[1:13:48] that or do we just not ask on that

[1:13:51] right you can you cannot act on it you

[1:13:53] can deny it you can do

[1:13:55] either of those things

[1:14:08] to deny the property tax expansion

[1:14:13] for james and joanne johnson

[1:14:18] based on the information that's part of

[1:14:21] their escrow with investigating

[1:14:25] all right i have a motion from dimmett a

[1:14:27] second from sandquist

[1:14:28] to deny this application from property

[1:14:31] tax suspension

[1:14:32] for james and jolene johnson

[1:14:36] all those in favor say hi hi

[1:14:40] all those opposed same sign motion

[1:14:43] carries

[1:14:45] so thank you very much mark i appreciate

[1:14:48] the information that you gave us

[1:14:53] okay now we'll move on to make committee

[1:14:58] reports

[1:15:03] they're working on establishing

[1:15:06] community

[1:15:09] in a indicators survey which they

[1:15:11] typically do

[1:15:13] some examples are for some of the

[1:15:14] children of poland organizations and out

[1:15:17] of three counties support jefferson

[1:15:18] county's

[1:15:19] lowest lifers grandmother received

[1:15:24] during first trimester children are in

[1:15:27] kindergarten with preschool experience

[1:15:30] and there's several of these but um this

[1:15:32] is the kind of thing that they

[1:15:35] look at with their indicators of success

[1:15:39] basically

[1:15:40] so i thought that might be of interest

[1:15:43] um

[1:15:43] [Music]

[1:15:44] then i also had brilliant

[1:15:48] summit which was through the iowa rural

[1:15:52] development commission

[1:15:53] with um joshua

[1:15:58] and that was virtual this year normally

[1:16:01] it would be somewhere

[1:16:02] up north but it turned it was thursday

[1:16:05] and friday so it was

[1:16:06] informative to learn what other

[1:16:08] communities are doing and

[1:16:10] some of the innovative things going on

[1:16:13] um

[1:16:14] met with

[1:16:15] [Music]

[1:16:17] a citizen and a person is the marketing

[1:16:20] director for the well who's coming

[1:16:22] um to fairfield and of course code has

[1:16:25] slowed them down they kind of

[1:16:27] we're going to announce right around

[1:16:28] koga then they have announced now but

[1:16:30] they're coming and so

[1:16:31] they wanted to meet with me about

[1:16:34] poverty and resources and things like

[1:16:36] that in careful so i spent some time

[1:16:38] with them the other day

[1:16:40] and gave them information about that

[1:16:45] food insecurity um

[1:16:49] and workforce development they're down

[1:16:51] to

[1:16:53] we need and workforce development local

[1:16:55] board which is

[1:16:56] like 14 counties so it's not local as in

[1:16:59] jefferson county

[1:17:01] but the way it's being redundant which

[1:17:04] is good 51

[1:17:05] of the members need to be businesses

[1:17:07] which is great that's the way it should

[1:17:09] be

[1:17:10] and they need two more businesses i

[1:17:12] asked one in town and they weren't able

[1:17:14] to

[1:17:15] right now put their time commitments

[1:17:20] that they need females because with any

[1:17:23] of these boards like this you need to

[1:17:24] have a gender balance and other

[1:17:26] requirements of the state

[1:17:28] so if there's any businesses out there

[1:17:30] that are interested in this most of it's

[1:17:32] virtual right now

[1:17:34] um please let me know

[1:17:37] lee um i think

[1:17:41] nothing you're sharing met with the

[1:17:43] steve at the radio station last week and

[1:17:45] i think

[1:17:47] if my calculations are correct you will

[1:17:49] meet next month

[1:17:51] i'll meet in october because you still

[1:17:53] won't be eligible so

[1:17:55] um that will be my small song okay

[1:17:58] all right thank you for doing that lee

[1:18:01] i've been on the month before so i

[1:18:03] thought it would be good if we had

[1:18:05] making parents up there uh i had a

[1:18:08] meeting with

[1:18:09] uh semco this week

[1:18:12] we had a public hearing off of

[1:18:16] through an environmental engineering

[1:18:18] firm that

[1:18:19] tracks movement of

[1:18:22] ground gas through monitoring wells

[1:18:26] and we have found that

[1:18:29] we only have one monitoring well out

[1:18:31] there that has

[1:18:33] a hazard of methane gas

[1:18:36] leaching through it we have put into

[1:18:40] place mitigation

[1:18:41] strategy so that we can uh

[1:18:44] monitor the wealth more closely and find

[1:18:47] out how far

[1:18:48] that contamination spreads

[1:18:52] it's in keokuk county that's that's

[1:18:55] where the landfill is

[1:18:56] at uh sits right it's

[1:19:00] well on the site uh the wells are are

[1:19:02] placed on the perimeter of the site

[1:19:04] so that they can monitor what is running

[1:19:07] out from

[1:19:08] the landfill there are some cells that

[1:19:10] aren't lined

[1:19:12] out there and those are the ones that

[1:19:13] are being monitored more closely than

[1:19:15] the ones that are lined uh they also look for leakage

[1:19:20] which is

[1:19:22] biomaterial that that flows through the

[1:19:24] ground along with it

[1:19:26] we do a real good job of collecting that

[1:19:29] putting it into

[1:19:30] a retaining pond and then pumping that

[1:19:33] pond and taking it to

[1:19:35] different sewage treatment facilities in

[1:19:37] order to be able to have that

[1:19:38] process to go back out into the

[1:19:40] environment at that point in time

[1:19:42] so where's nothing coming from do i know

[1:19:44] for sure um the methane comes

[1:19:46] from the decomposition of material out

[1:19:49] there

[1:19:50] in the fill and what i'm doing that is

[1:19:53] in my

[1:19:53] work with food waste we send so much

[1:19:56] food waste

[1:19:58] to the landfill that that's

[1:20:01] can be a cause

[1:20:10] [Music]

[1:20:11] a root cause of what causes that

[1:20:14] what brings that methane out but um

[1:20:18] it is something that can be recommended

[1:20:20] to the public that if they've got

[1:20:22] food waste such as potato peelings or

[1:20:25] cucumber peelings or whatever try to

[1:20:28] compost that yourself

[1:20:30] on site rather than running it down a

[1:20:32] garbage disposer

[1:20:34] or putting it into the trash to be taken

[1:20:36] away by the

[1:20:39] trash outlet that we have here in the

[1:20:42] community and other communities around

[1:20:44] um the the one key

[1:20:48] thing that that the environmental

[1:20:50] engineer

[1:20:51] said and he works for a large number

[1:20:55] of landfills across the state of iowa

[1:21:00] we are the only landfill that over the

[1:21:02] last five-year time period have been

[1:21:05] able to lower

[1:21:06] our tipping fees because of how the

[1:21:08] waste is handled

[1:21:10] out at our landfill and he says that screams volumes about the people

[1:21:16] that

[1:21:17] we have in place out there to not only

[1:21:19] be the contractor for the site

[1:21:21] to compact all the trash and to monitor

[1:21:24] the cells and the life of the cells

[1:21:27] as well as the director that we have on

[1:21:29] site out there

[1:21:31] we do very well we're pretty much a

[1:21:34] zero gain when it comes to

[1:21:37] money that's taken into the landfill we

[1:21:39] have to put money aside for

[1:21:42] future cells that may be put online or

[1:21:45] have to be constructed

[1:21:47] and purchase surrounding

[1:21:51] land to the landfill in order to do that

[1:21:54] right now the neighbors were all

[1:21:56] notified um

[1:21:58] within what was it uh anybody that's

[1:22:01] within

[1:22:04] 250 or 300 feet of the landfill itself

[1:22:08] as a neighboring property owner who was

[1:22:09] notified of this public

[1:22:11] meeting we only had one person that was

[1:22:13] there and that's

[1:22:14] uh mike hadley who is also on the board

[1:22:17] he's the supervisor in keokuk county

[1:22:20] um he has property that sits right next

[1:22:23] to the landfill itself and

[1:22:25] he says he's had no no problems with

[1:22:28] what's been going on

[1:22:29] over the years out there and uh we have

[1:22:32] been doing

[1:22:33] really well and we

[1:22:36] are already discussing whether we want

[1:22:38] to change our meetings from

[1:22:40] monthly to quarterly because

[1:22:44] uh at one time a monthly meeting was

[1:22:47] necessary because

[1:22:49] things were kind of in a disarray out

[1:22:51] there

[1:22:52] and now with the leadership that we have

[1:22:54] we feel more comfortable

[1:22:55] that if we don't necessarily have any

[1:22:58] item that truly needs to be

[1:23:00] on discussion at that meeting that we

[1:23:03] not have a meeting that month

[1:23:05] we also found that through this coded

[1:23:07] time period

[1:23:08] that a quarterly meeting was more

[1:23:11] effective

[1:23:12] for us so i think we're we're

[1:23:15] trying to at least think about moving

[1:23:17] that direction

[1:23:19] so the landfill has been doing good you

[1:23:22] can still

[1:23:24] as a private individual you can still

[1:23:26] take your garbage out

[1:23:28] the landfill if you clean out your house

[1:23:30] you want to get rid of it all

[1:23:31] take it out there you can um it's good

[1:23:34] if you call

[1:23:35] ahead of time they will accommodate you

[1:23:38] if you show up

[1:23:39] gate now previously they weren't doing

[1:23:41] that because

[1:23:42] of coven restrictions and

[1:23:45] the staff out there is

[1:23:49] five total people so

[1:23:53] if someone was having to come down with

[1:23:55] something then the whole staff would be

[1:23:57] quarantined which means the whole

[1:23:59] landfill would be quarantined which

[1:24:00] means

[1:24:01] nothing would come in even from

[1:24:03] commercial haulers

[1:24:04] in that case so we found that there's

[1:24:08] a lot of a lot of electronic means that

[1:24:13] we've utilized during this covid time

[1:24:15] period that allows

[1:24:16] truck drivers to stay in their trucks

[1:24:18] people that bring

[1:24:19] trash out to stay in their vehicles

[1:24:22] while it's being taken off

[1:24:24] by the workers there at the plant

[1:24:28] you don't have to hand them a ticket any

[1:24:31] longer they can get the tickets

[1:24:32] electronically for what they brought out

[1:24:35] for weight and cost and all of that you

[1:24:38] can also pay

[1:24:39] either there or you can pay

[1:24:41] electronically now

[1:24:43] for that so we will continue those types of

[1:24:50] activities

[1:24:51] and move more towards a quote hands-free

[1:24:56] situation when it comes to people

[1:24:58] bringing in waste and leaving the site so uh

[1:25:03] those those are some real positives that

[1:25:05] we came from

[1:25:07] not only the review that we do uh with

[1:25:10] our

[1:25:10] environmental engineer for the site but

[1:25:12] as well as

[1:25:13] site management and bill slu

[1:25:16] so i think we we do extremely well out

[1:25:20] there

[1:25:21] all right um we'll move on to any public

[1:25:24] comments that we might have here

[1:25:28] anything you'd like to comment on i

[1:25:30] guess

[1:25:31] sure um

[1:25:50] and i'm used to

[1:26:01] and and you know listed out some things

[1:26:05] may be true

[1:26:10] [Music]

[1:26:20] i thought that i was always free to be

[1:26:22] able to

[1:26:23] do whatever i wanted to in the country

[1:26:26] um

[1:26:27] and so not only does it come as a shock

[1:26:30] but

[1:26:31] you know it's it's being it's i feel

[1:26:33] like it's being forced on me

[1:26:36] you know that's being posed on me and if

[1:26:39] i don't do it

[1:26:40] i'm threatened with a fight

[1:26:43] or a video so i'm trying to adjust to that

[1:27:02] um

[1:27:06] start cleaning it up but at the same

[1:27:09] time i'm wondering

[1:27:10] and why why is there this ordinance is it

[1:27:26] necessary

[1:27:28] can people who live in their country

[1:27:33] remotely i'm at the end of the ground

[1:27:36] road there might be one or two cars that

[1:27:39] come down that road each day

[1:27:43] and i have one neighbor

[1:27:53] and i don't expect

[1:27:56] to talk with lee on that with

[1:28:00] i don't expect any special treatment you

[1:28:02] know because of my situation or whatever

[1:28:04] i know you have to handle it equally for

[1:28:08] everybody

[1:28:09] if you're going to have an ordinance it

[1:28:10] has to be across the line

[1:28:13] so um so i'm wondering is it possible

[1:28:16] that you guys can consider

[1:28:19] this ordinance is it totally necessary

[1:28:23] is it cost worthy

[1:28:25] or is it something that needs to be

[1:28:27] there

[1:28:29] so that's that's my question

[1:28:33] is it something that should be willing

[1:28:34] to consider

[1:28:37] is it productive you know is it

[1:28:40] that's a great question yeah i mean

[1:28:43] there's a lot of people who won't live

[1:28:45] in the country

[1:28:46] and not be bothered by anybody you know

[1:28:51] that's the 64-hour question um when you

[1:28:55] weigh that against the cost

[1:28:57] um that's something you know it's an

[1:28:59] actual question one that we've arm

[1:29:01] wrestled with not just this

[1:29:04] makeup on previous boards um as

[1:29:07] i indicated to you during our

[1:29:09] conversation uh my problem has always

[1:29:12] been and

[1:29:13] i'm sure pat's still listening he gets

[1:29:15] tired of listening to me but nonetheless

[1:29:18] i've always been

[1:29:22] i've never had a dog in the hunt if you

[1:29:24] want to repeal it or if we don't want to

[1:29:26] enforce it then let's repeat it it's

[1:29:27] always been my mantra but if we're not going to

[1:29:31] repeat it then it has to be enforced

[1:29:34] equally equal application and

[1:29:37] we can't in my estimation i may be wrong

[1:29:40] but in my estimation if it's in the

[1:29:43] unincorporated areas of the county which

[1:29:45] is where the ordinance applies

[1:29:47] i can't make the distinction of whether

[1:29:49] or not you're on the end of a gravel

[1:29:50] road or you have a neighbor

[1:29:53] and by definition that definition is

[1:29:56] what's outlined in the nuisance

[1:29:58] so if i have a neighbor on the one hand

[1:30:01] whose property is is not congested with vehicles with

[1:30:06] weeds with dilapidated buildings

[1:30:09] it directly affects the value of their

[1:30:11] property i can verify that through the

[1:30:13] county assessor's office it has an

[1:30:14] impact

[1:30:16] plus you know it also

[1:30:20] we had one down here in the southwest

[1:30:21] corner of

[1:30:24] town actually it's actually surrounded

[1:30:25] by town but it's one of those

[1:30:27] islands that we talk about

[1:30:31] the property was absolutely at one point

[1:30:33] was a gorgeous property but

[1:30:35] this this individual had a passion for

[1:30:37] bringing things in

[1:30:38] we drove it wrong i mean it was and yet

[1:30:42] there was a three four hundred thousand

[1:30:44] dollar home next to it

[1:30:45] that was being impacted

[1:30:49] by it but if i tell this individual that

[1:30:52] you have to remove the cars you have to

[1:30:54] do this

[1:30:55] in terms of equal application i don't

[1:30:57] see how i can make a distinction

[1:30:59] based on definition as to where

[1:31:03] that nuisance is located if it's defined

[1:31:06] as a nuisance in the ordinance it's a

[1:31:08] nuisance whether it's at the end of the

[1:31:09] road

[1:31:10] or whether you have a neighbor and

[1:31:12] conversely

[1:31:15] i have a property down in what i call

[1:31:18] the darkest parts of the continent just

[1:31:20] north of the mountaineer county line

[1:31:22] there's no neighbor down there

[1:31:24] uh as far as living there's there's a

[1:31:27] property owner to the south there that

[1:31:28] owns some land

[1:31:31] um but the property is

[1:31:34] you know overgrown vehicles some of them

[1:31:36] were in the in the right of way

[1:31:37] so on and so forth but that person has

[1:31:41] exactly the same

[1:31:44] almost identical set of circumstances

[1:31:46] that you do

[1:31:47] it turns up nobody around to complain

[1:31:52] so for me personally i'm not speaking to

[1:31:55] the other two for me personally

[1:31:57] if we're going to have it it has to be

[1:32:00] applied equally to everybody in the

[1:32:02] county irrespective of what their

[1:32:05] location is in terms of absent that

[1:32:10] if you ask me um

[1:32:13] am i opposed to repeating it i think it

[1:32:17] serves a purpose

[1:32:18] but only if we apply it equally well the

[1:32:20] other piece of that

[1:32:22] and pat maybe you can add the detail

[1:32:25] there is a state

[1:32:26] law that also has

[1:32:29] pieces of the ordinance so even if we

[1:32:32] repealed the ordinance

[1:32:34] there still are certain i believe it's

[1:32:36] health and safety

[1:32:38] requirements that everybody has to have

[1:32:41] i don't know your specific items if it's

[1:32:44] a health

[1:32:45] but um so that that would still be the

[1:32:49] case

[1:32:52] and we do have to uh and i mean i've not

[1:32:55] been out

[1:32:56] to your place so i don't know if it

[1:32:58] necessarily applies but there are

[1:32:59] hazardous substances which actually

[1:33:02] includes you know combustible items

[1:33:06] and so um i think that goes

[1:33:10] into what b said yeah

[1:33:14] so um

[1:33:19] again if if you want like like i said to

[1:33:21] you

[1:33:22] yes you have the right to appeal um

[1:33:25] the appeal would be centered around

[1:33:27] excuse me the items listed

[1:33:29] in your letter as to whether or not

[1:33:31] those nuisance exists

[1:33:33] by definition and that's what we would

[1:33:35] go by is that nuisance defined and if it is

[1:33:39] then

[1:33:40] it's in the stance we

[1:33:44] as far as as far as timelines go as i

[1:33:47] indicated to you and i also talked to

[1:33:50] our compliance officer about this

[1:33:52] he's an agreement as long as you're

[1:33:55] showing progress

[1:33:56] we're not going to put the hand down as

[1:33:58] far as that partner goes

[1:34:00] it's when we get ignored or we don't

[1:34:02] show up in court or

[1:34:03] whatever those situations are but we

[1:34:05] have to move to the next step

[1:34:08] we're asking you to mitigate the

[1:34:09] nuisance but we're also well aware that

[1:34:11] sometimes

[1:34:12] that mitigation process is not something

[1:34:14] that can be done day after tomorrow

[1:34:27] this is my first term so we started

[1:34:30] it was more to only so what happened we

[1:34:33] got an

[1:34:34] increased number of complaints so many

[1:34:38] that the year i was chair i think i had

[1:34:41] like 23 letters at least now because the

[1:34:43] board

[1:34:44] did all these and we thought

[1:34:47] we need a better system if we're going

[1:34:49] to get all these complaints so that we're fair and

[1:34:53] not you know we have somebody that

[1:34:55] this is what they do so we contracted

[1:34:58] with russ

[1:34:59] so we're trying to now that we have a

[1:35:03] process in place that's more

[1:35:06] objective and not subjective then

[1:35:09] there will be a time when you need to

[1:35:11] evaluate that and say okay

[1:35:13] is it worth the money we're spending on

[1:35:16] that

[1:35:16] and the other side of that is some of

[1:35:19] the complaints come from this we've

[1:35:21] already

[1:35:22] mentioned the neighbors and in your case

[1:35:25] that's not an issue

[1:35:26] but someday if you have a different

[1:35:28] neighbor it could become one

[1:35:30] so this is probably one of the most

[1:35:32] challenges that we get because

[1:35:35] it's difficult you know it really

[1:35:40] don't live out is

[1:35:45] we moved into town my wife was dying of

[1:35:48] cancer in

[1:35:50] 2000. she moved into town for a small

[1:35:53] period of time

[1:35:54] she passed away and then my son and i

[1:35:57] moved

[1:35:57] back out there and then

[1:36:01] we were out there for a while and he was young when she died

[1:36:23] out of the house one thing oh and go

[1:36:25] back out there

[1:36:26] so i'm in the process now i'm trying to

[1:36:28] build something

[1:36:29] out there

[1:36:33] so and all my feelings

[1:36:36] once i'm living out there taking care of

[1:36:39] stuff

[1:36:41] but right now it's in transition well

[1:36:44] for the immediate it sounds like you

[1:36:45] have a work hard and that's great

[1:36:47] yeah yeah so that's gonna show

[1:37:02] one we wanted it to be looked at black

[1:37:04] and white

[1:37:06] and the reason for that is is because

[1:37:08] you and i are

[1:37:09] long time friends and it's difficult if

[1:37:13] not

[1:37:13] impossible to look at you objectively

[1:37:17] because relationship okay

[1:37:20] and or if we had just say scott for

[1:37:23] example

[1:37:24] okay being a county engineer and then

[1:37:27] how do i

[1:37:27] enforce a complaint that i get

[1:37:31] from this individual then this

[1:37:33] individual says well wait a minute

[1:37:35] you didn't do anything about dinner

[1:37:38] okay and i think that would concur then

[1:37:42] that

[1:37:43] really your legal legs don't really

[1:37:45] exist at that point and it it did as

[1:37:49] de-indicated took the burden off of us

[1:37:50] the subjectiveness of it off of us and

[1:37:53] gave it to an individual who just

[1:37:55] strictly looks at it in black and white

[1:37:57] terms

[1:37:58] and so therefore it's applied equally i

[1:38:00] go back to my original statement um i

[1:38:05] do believe that it's necessary it

[1:38:07] wouldn't break my heart if it was

[1:38:08] repealed

[1:38:10] only in the context that if we're not

[1:38:12] going to apply it equally to everybody

[1:38:14] we're going to pick and choose then i

[1:38:16] don't want it but if we're going to have

[1:38:18] it

[1:38:19] then we've got to apply it equally

[1:38:20] across yeah

[1:38:42] well you're not the lone ranger we've

[1:38:44] had lots of conversations

[1:38:46] uh and you know uh

[1:38:50] if you got a few minutes before you

[1:38:52] leave i mean before you

[1:38:53] go to where take a drive out west on old

[1:38:56] 34

[1:38:58] um on the south side of the road you

[1:39:01] can't

[1:39:02] miss it okay so this has been an ongoing

[1:39:06] problem that we've been trying to

[1:39:07] correct

[1:39:08] and it to me epitomizes the issue

[1:39:11] but for us to have any enforcement

[1:39:13] leverage

[1:39:14] on that property we have to be

[1:39:18] even-handed with everybody else

[1:39:24] you go it's just beyond where you turned

[1:39:27] south to go straight

[1:39:28] south into libertyville um it's it's

[1:39:31] over the railroad bridge and then off on

[1:39:33] the left-hand side

[1:39:34] yeah that's the thrill of

[1:39:38] [Music]

[1:39:52] yeah yeah you go underneath the freeway

[1:39:54] you keep going

[1:39:55] to the west as 34 used to go to ottumwa

[1:39:59] uh you go across the burlington northern

[1:40:02] bridge

[1:40:03] there the the libertyville corner is

[1:40:05] just uh before the

[1:40:07] bridge that goes over the railroad

[1:40:09] tracks once you're over that bridge

[1:40:11] it's off on the left-hand side about

[1:40:13] three houses down

[1:40:16] and it's like lee said you cannot

[1:40:19] miss it when you drive

[1:40:31] it's what we deal with

[1:40:38] so um yeah you're welcome

[1:40:41] thanks for coming in and and talking

[1:40:43] about it

[1:40:44] well i really enjoyed sitting here

[1:40:48] watching you guys

[1:40:52] all right okay um i would accept a

[1:40:55] motion to allow claims and approve

[1:40:57] reports

[1:40:59] okay i have a motion from dimmitt a

[1:41:01] second from sandquist

[1:41:02] all those in favor say aye hi all those

[1:41:05] opposed same sign

[1:41:07] motion carries uh discuss and consider

[1:41:10] nuisance properties

[1:41:13] i mean pat and i have been going back

[1:41:15] and forth about

[1:41:18] extracurricular uh enforcement issues

[1:41:23] he's worked very hard i don't know that

[1:41:26] we're at a point where we can

[1:41:28] my overriding concern is that

[1:41:32] we some power or another put a process

[1:41:35] in place i mean we've got the oranges i

[1:41:36] think it spells it out

[1:41:37] pat like say has been working on it um

[1:41:41] but i think the board now has to decide

[1:41:44] how much

[1:41:45] they're willing to expend on some of

[1:41:48] these properties

[1:41:49] that have not come into compliance in

[1:41:52] some cases

[1:41:53] for extended periods of time were being

[1:41:55] ignored

[1:41:56] even though they've been fined when

[1:41:57] there's been a judgment issue it's as

[1:42:00] i'm pat's going to shoot me for this but

[1:42:03] um the ongoing

[1:42:07] uh as far as i'm concerned it's an

[1:42:09] emergency exist by reason of the

[1:42:11] continuing maintenance of the nuisance

[1:42:13] as far as i'm certain a perfect example

[1:42:15] out west of town that's continuing

[1:42:17] maintenance

[1:42:19] and um i think that we have

[1:42:22] we've given them notice to abate uh they

[1:42:25] were

[1:42:26] they did

[1:42:41] we can remove that private property and

[1:42:44] i don't know the answer to that

[1:42:52] okay so that concludes

[1:42:57] the meeting here in the office we are

[1:43:00] having a road tour this morning

[1:43:02] with the county engineer to go out and

[1:43:05] look at some

[1:43:07] problems or positives that are out there

[1:43:09] that have been going on with us i'd like

[1:43:11] to thank everybody for joining us for

[1:43:13] the meeting today

[1:43:14] and uh we'll get this posted up thank

[1:43:17] you

[1:43:22] i have a motion from dimmitt from

[1:43:24] sandquist to adjourn

[1:43:26] all those in favor say aye aye all those

[1:43:29] opposed same

[1:43:30] sign motion carries

Jefferson County Supervisors Meeting 8-24-20

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