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[1:23] Let's get this show started.

[1:26] I'm going to go ahead and call to order

[1:28] this Kerrville city council workshop for August 25, 2026.

[1:34] Do we have anybody signed up to speak.

[1:36] No, sir.

[1:36] Thank you ma'am.

[1:37] Let's go ahead and start with item, a Mr. Paxton.

[1:41] Good afternoon, Mayor and council.

[1:43] I'm actually going to let our animal

[1:45] control officer, Mr. James Lee, present this to you guys.

[1:49] All right.

[1:49] Thank you.

[1:50]

[1:55] All right Mr. mayor council, how are you.

[1:59] Good to see you.

[2:00] I hope to be brief, informative, and if I'm lucky,

[2:03] I might stumble on being entertaining.

[2:06] All right.

[2:07] Shall we.

[2:08] All right, so this is a Line, an update of our animal ordinance,

[2:12] which is section 18 of the ordinance.

[2:15] Our purpose is to make sure that all of our animal ordinances

[2:17] are in line with the Texas Health and Safety Code,

[2:20] chapter 821, which is the Texas State animal laws.

[2:23] Further expanding definitions to avoid

[2:25] legal ambiguities or loopholes that we

[2:27] may have had in the past.

[2:30] Turn it on.

[2:32] And to better define the rules pertaining

[2:35] to feral cats and the guidelines for registered feral cat

[2:38] caregivers.

[2:39] Here we go.

[2:42] Sorry technical difficulties up here.

[2:44] No worries.

[2:46] So you used to have everything done.

[2:47] So the cover topics will be amended

[2:49] definitions, ones that we're just changing a little bit.

[2:52] Anything that we've added additional definitions.

[2:56] Ordinance expansions, things that were ordering ordinance

[3:00] that maybe were adding something to give

[3:02] it a little bit more depth.

[3:03] Terminology terminology changes as well as the feral cat

[3:09] ordinance updates and the feral cat colony contract,

[3:13] which we'll get to at the end.

[3:16] All right.

[3:16] So some of the definitions that we've amended is abandonment.

[3:20] We added a fourth subsection to it

[3:22] that covers abandonment of an animal at a residence

[3:25] due to a non occupation.

[3:26] So basically someone moves out of their house

[3:27] and leaves the animal behind.

[3:29] We now have something to cover that which we didn't before.

[3:32] We have updated the definition of at large

[3:35] to add more details to it, covering what an animal is

[3:37] considered at large.

[3:39] By the way, in the Manila Oaks next to you guys,

[3:42] you'll find a copy of all the animal ordinance updates,

[3:45] as well as a copy of the CAT contract

[3:47] for the feral CAT contract.

[3:50] Cat we.

[3:51] Under the definition of cat, we've

[3:53] added eight new subsections of defining terminology like you're

[3:57] tipping feral cat, just ones that we didn't have defined

[4:00] in there, clearly, but now they're subsections under cat

[4:04] dangerous dog.

[4:05] We added subsection 3, which ties it to the state definition.

[4:08] That's pretty simple.

[4:10] Requirements for owner of dangerous dog.

[4:12] We did an Amendment to the insurance policy amount, upping

[4:15] it from 100,000 to 500,000.

[4:19] Owner we vastly expanded the definition of owner

[4:22] because ours was kind of woefully

[4:24] under defined compared to other cities.

[4:27] So we've expanded that one quite a bit.

[4:29] It now covers a larger definition of what ownership can

[4:33] be, since there's a lot of different ways

[4:35] that somebody can own an animal commercially

[4:39] for show emancipated minors, you name it,

[4:42] it's covered in there now.

[4:44] Restraint we've covered that better.

[4:47] It better defines the parameters of what constitutes

[4:49] the restraint of an animal.

[4:51] And under tethering.

[4:53] We've added some verbiage pertaining to property limits

[4:56] because with tethering there's some distance and length

[4:59] things due to state law.

[5:00] But if those distance and lengths allow the animal to go

[5:03] past property limits, we've now added language which covers

[5:06] that, saying that they can't.

[5:07] The tether should not let them leave the property line.

[5:10]

[5:13] Oh, you jumped and jumped back.

[5:15] There we go.

[5:17] Additional definitions.

[5:19] Animal dealer.

[5:20] We didn't have one for that.

[5:20] We now have that defined in there.

[5:22] Animal establishment.

[5:24] That's for pet stores things like that.

[5:25] We now have that in there.

[5:27] Animal exhibition think circus or some type

[5:29] show where you can have a trained

[5:30] animals that's now in there.

[5:33] Animal services facility.

[5:35] For some reason, we didn't have that.

[5:36] But now we do assistance animal.

[5:39] We now have that clearly defined in there

[5:40] and the term pet animal, which so somebody declares it a pet.

[5:44] We now have a definition of what that means.

[5:47] And then the definition for quarantine, which of course,

[5:49] would be tied to a zoonotic disease or rabies

[5:52] containment type thing.

[5:56] Ordinance expansions like that little guy's belly there.

[5:59] So we have 1831, which is nuisances originally.

[6:03] We are now making it public nuisances.

[6:05] We've added a couple of subsections to that.

[6:08] Adding some new clarifications under there of different things

[6:11] that could be considered nuisances.

[6:14] Giving us a little bit more enforcement

[6:16] opportunity on situations that we didn't

[6:18] have in the past if we need it.

[6:20] 1832 feral cat management.

[6:23] We've clarified some new rules in there that

[6:25] will tie to the feral CAT contract,

[6:29] as well as removing the term community.

[6:31] There are now feral cats, not community cats.

[6:34] Legal ambiguity there because community cats assumes that

[6:38] the community owns these cats.

[6:39] We do not.

[6:40] They're feral.

[6:43] 1855 requirements for owner of a dangerous dog.

[6:47] We've expanded that one a little bit too.

[6:49] Again, that goes back to that insurance policy update.

[6:53] 18 six I'm sorry, 76 animals left in vehicles.

[6:57] We've updated to that.

[6:58] We added to the end of it some definitions of what enforcement

[7:01] officers are now that the city has an animal control officer as

[7:05] well as oh, we lost our screen there as well

[7:08] as a bit of definition at the end of it,

[7:10] clarifying that if you leave an animal in a hot car in a parking

[7:13] lot and an enforcement officer has to break the window,

[7:16] in the case of getting the animal out to rescue it,

[7:18] that it is the responsibility of the owner to deal

[7:20] with the damage, not the city.

[7:22] Let me interrupt real quick on that.

[7:24] Sure you see it too often in town.

[7:29] Animals left and dogs left in the vehicle with the windows

[7:33] down or Windows up, and the car running with the owner

[7:38] in a store somewhere.

[7:39] Sure at what point.

[7:42] I mean, obviously, if there's an animal in the vehicle

[7:46] and it's not running and there's no AC going.

[7:48] That's obviously a phone call to somebody.

[7:50] Yep but also, I think I'm not a police officer.

[7:56] I'm not a lawyer.

[7:57] But also I think that it says I might

[7:59] know somebody who was a police officer at one time, but.

[8:02]

[8:05] If you leave your vehicle running and you're not in it,

[8:08] that's not really legal either.

[8:11] Correct I'm unclear or unaware of any law in Texas

[8:16] that says that you're unable to leave your vehicle

[8:19] running with you, not in it.

[8:21] I'm not aware of any law.

[8:23] I was a police officer for 10 years.

[8:24] But out in California, not here.

[8:26] But as far as I in Texas, it's not illegal to do that.

[8:29] I know a lot of people do that.

[8:30] They leave their cars on with their air conditioners running.

[8:32] That's fine.

[8:33] Remote start, I understand, but anyway,

[8:37] at what point does that become something

[8:39] that needs to be a concern of a citizen or anybody sees it.

[8:42] Even if the windows are up in the car's running right.

[8:45] So you don't know if the AC is actually on or not.

[8:47] Sure, we do have defined actually

[8:49] in that subsection certain temperature degrees.

[8:52] So 75 degrees or higher within the car

[8:55] starts to become a concern.

[8:57] Now the animal obviously isn't going

[8:58] to be distressed right away.

[8:59] However, over time at anything above that temperature,

[9:03] it will be within a danger zone.

[9:05] And so that's why we carry or at least

[9:06] I carry a thermal thermometer in my vehicle.

[9:10] So if I get a call saying, hey, there's a dog over here,

[9:12] I can shoot a temperature inside that car

[9:14] immediately, know what temperature it is,

[9:16] and then I can look at the condition of the dog

[9:18] based on my training and say, OK, I'm seeing

[9:20] signs of health concern or not.

[9:23] That will then tell me, OK, how much time do I have

[9:26] to work with this situation.

[9:27] Is it a break the window, get the animal out right away

[9:29] for its care.

[9:30] Or is it OK.

[9:31] Now we can go inside the store and make an announcement

[9:33] and try and get an owner out here and deal with this.

[9:35] So we use those kind of informed sections of script

[9:40] to follow to say, OK, this is what we're going to do based

[9:43] on the amount of time we have and the temperature and the

[9:45] condition of the animal.

[9:48] Does that answer your question.

[9:49] Yes, sir.

[9:50] OK thank you.

[9:53] 1877 animals and trucks and trailers.

[9:56] So that again talks to a bit of that as well.

[9:59] If we added some stuff in there, just again

[10:01] to clarify those languages.

[10:03] And when they can be in trucks and trailers

[10:05] and how they can be in the backs of trucks or trailers

[10:07] or can't be and how they have to be secured,

[10:10] all those types of things.

[10:12] 1891 covers foul that section for the chickens we

[10:18] allow in the city kind of was.

[10:21] It was under-defined as how to keep the chickens.

[10:24] So we've added sections to the back of that to make sure

[10:27] that the chickens are secured.

[10:28] They're not just running out in the street,

[10:30] which you will commonly see in the Doyle district area,

[10:33] that those things have to be kept in the back yard, not

[10:35] the front yard.

[10:36] So it's not an eyesore in the front.

[10:38] All those types of things are now

[10:39] to find that those cages are again

[10:41] of adequate size for the animals so that they're

[10:42] not being tortured by it.

[10:44] Those types of things are all now included

[10:45] and specified in there.

[10:46] To make that a little bit clearer for chicken owners.

[10:51] Rabbits 1891.

[10:53] We added just a little bit of language

[10:54] for both rabbits and ferrets pertaining

[10:58] to the conditions or things that can come

[11:00] out of the keeping of those.

[11:02] That would make it some type of nuisance.

[11:05] So if I look it up, I'm going to forget.

[11:08] But it was stuff like water, dust, splashing smells, things

[11:12] that could come from the keeping of those

[11:14] that if they're not being maintained well,

[11:16] would cause a nuisance and then allow us to then step in

[11:18] and say, OK, you need to change what you're

[11:20] doing here with your animals.

[11:21] But it's pretty much the same for both rabbits

[11:24] and ferrets and chicken.

[11:25] It was added actually to all three.

[11:27] So that's our expansions.

[11:29] And then terminology changes.

[11:30] So again, I kind of covered that earlier.

[11:32] Community cats will now be feral cats due to

[11:34] the legal terminology of that.

[11:37] Not a real big deal.

[11:38] And then of course, feral cat will change as well

[11:41] and start a community cat caregiver.

[11:46] Feral cat management ordinance update.

[11:48] So we did change that section a bit.

[11:50] It lacked refinement of measurable markers

[11:53] to hold registered caregivers accountable for

[11:55] the needed program standards.

[11:57] The whole standard behind having feral cat colonies

[12:01] is to stop the breeding of these animals, which means we need

[12:05] to trap neuter these animals.

[12:07] We need to get them vaccinated, we need to return them,

[12:09] but they also need to be controlled

[12:10] so that they're not in businesses,

[12:12] they're not in the parking lots.

[12:13] They're not being fed on someone else's property.

[12:16] All those types of things, those things

[12:17] have now been added to standards.

[12:19] And then you can see down here addition

[12:22] of several subsections clearly defined in the guidelines

[12:25] of the colonies.

[12:26] Also adds enforcement measures for us should

[12:29] the compliance continually fail to meet

[12:31] the standards that we set.

[12:34] They also help us make sure that the management of this program

[12:37] is successful because we want it to be successful.

[12:39] We want to control the population of the feral cats,

[12:41] but also we want to take care of the cats.

[12:43] We don't want to be mean to them.

[12:44] We don't want to have to euthanize them.

[12:45] We want to be able to take care of those.

[12:48] And especially for our caregivers

[12:49] who spend a lot of their time to help these animals,

[12:53] a lot of their money to get them spayed and neutered.

[12:55] But we need to manage it carefully for the program

[12:58] to be successful.

[12:59] So that's what these new ordinances do,

[13:02] is put tighter guidelines on that to make sure

[13:04] that we can make sure it's successful

[13:05] and that they're following those guidelines.

[13:09] The feral cat colony contract.

[13:10] So currently we had what we called the Community cat

[13:15] registry, which is where anyone could just sign up and say,

[13:18] I'm going to feed the cats because it

[13:20] is against our ordinance to feed feral cats.

[13:22] However, if somebody signed one of these,

[13:23] they could just go to wherever these cats were living

[13:25] and start feeding them.

[13:27] That held them to no standards like the ones

[13:29] I just talked about.

[13:30] They could do it wherever the cats were,

[13:31] or whether it was on someone else's property.

[13:33] Someone's parking lot along the river, wherever it might be.

[13:37] This turns it into a contract with the city.

[13:40] And it specifies all the rules, regulations,

[13:43] and measurable timelines needed to manage these colonies

[13:46] correctly, as well as the oversight measurements

[13:49] that I will have, to have enforcement measurements

[13:52] so that if they are not following these guidelines,

[13:54] if they're not meeting these deadlines,

[13:56] if they're doing things they shouldn't in places

[13:57] they shouldn't, we now have enforcement

[14:00] standard to correct that.

[14:01]

[14:05] These are community partners, of course, Kerrville

[14:08] pets alive and the big fix.

[14:10] They're instrumental in all of our pet stuff within the city.

[14:14] They're great community partners.

[14:15] I love working with them.

[14:17] I was able to go over all these things with them ahead of time

[14:20] and get their feedback, and it was

[14:23] overwhelmingly pretty positive to get

[14:25] their support, which was great.

[14:26] They want these programs to work as well,

[14:28] and I think that they understood pretty clearly that if we don't

[14:31] manage it correctly using these new guidelines that it will

[14:34] fail, and then the city and the state

[14:35] would have no you, no option but to revert to old ways, which

[14:38] was just euthanized en masse.

[14:40] So they're pretty happy with that.

[14:44] Some of them are here tonight.

[14:45] Thank you guys for being here.

[14:47] All right.

[14:48] So next steps city council.

[14:51] There we go.

[14:51] So we have our if everything successful tonight we'll have

[14:55] our readings in September their eighth and 22nd where

[14:59] you guys can vote on that.

[15:00] And then we'll pause here for questions.

[15:03]

[15:06] Like I said I'll accidentally stumble into being entertaining.

[15:09] It's not on purpose, I assure you.

[15:11] Could you tell me your name.

[15:12] Because I don't know that I've met you.

[15:14] I don't think we have.

[15:15] My name is James Lee, Officer James Lee.

[15:17]

[15:20] And When it's time.

[15:21] I'll have some questions.

[15:23] Absolutely right now is the time.

[15:24] Please OK.

[15:25] So this is wonderful.

[15:27] This makes me feel better.

[15:28] I mean, it helps me sleep at night.

[15:29] I love animals.

[15:30] I have animals, I love the pets.

[15:33] Pets alive organization.

[15:34] I think they do wonderful things in our community.

[15:36] But I do have a concern since we have the County who does.

[15:41] I would say maybe something totally different

[15:43] or not at all like this.

[15:44] And I'm concerned that we're doing a part of things well,

[15:48] but the big picture needs some attention.

[15:51] Sure I would love your advice as to what would be my next step.

[15:55] I plan to take a tour of the County animal shelter, which

[15:59] I actually have not had yet, and just see how things work there.

[16:04] But I was going to actually ask someone to chauffeur

[16:06] me around and just not walk in.

[16:08] But do you have any comments about that your relationship

[16:12] with them, and has it been a good working relationship

[16:17] or has it had some challenges.

[16:19] Absolutely no.

[16:20] Since day one.

[16:21] I recognize coming into this position

[16:23] that the partnerships with our community partners

[16:25] like Kerrville, pets alive, big fix, as well as the County.

[16:28] We're going to be absolutely important because none of us

[16:31] are equipped manpowered none of us

[16:34] have enough to do this on our own.

[16:36] We have to work as a team or this won't work.

[16:40] I am a state certified animal control officer.

[16:42] I can do all the things that they can do.

[16:44] However, my duties here have been focused more on the animal

[16:47] ordinance side, which is actually worked out really

[16:50] quite well with them, whereas they're focused

[16:52] on the regular side of things.

[16:53] And so we kind of team up and we will commonly go to calls

[16:56] together to where I can hit things from the ordinance side,

[16:59] and they can hit things from the criminal side if needed.

[17:01] And we do that a lot.

[17:03] I actually backed up an animal control officer for the County

[17:06] today.

[17:06] I was actually out doing code work,

[17:07] follow up for the code enforcement department,

[17:09] and I saw an animal officer out on a call,

[17:12] and she was all alone, and she was out with two individuals.

[17:14] One of them was holding a knife.

[17:16] It was just a tree saw branch, but he wasn't

[17:19] holding it to be threatening.

[17:20] He just didn't realize he was still holding it, but I stopped,

[17:22] I got out, I backed her up, I asked him to drop it and he did.

[17:26] And then we were able to continue the call

[17:27] and everything went just fine.

[17:29] But she was very grateful for that.

[17:31] So it's one of those situations where we're going to partner as

[17:34] much as possible to create the best

[17:37] animal situation in the County that we can for city or County.

[17:41] I would say our relationships have been very, very strong.

[17:44] The Constable who runs the program

[17:45] over there, Reagan Gibbons, lives

[17:47] right down the street from me.

[17:48] We're actually friends, so that helps a lot, too.

[17:50] My partnership with the police department has been very good.

[17:55] Chief Gerald actually was the chief

[17:56] in the city I used to live in at the same time

[17:59] when I was a police officer there, but for a different city.

[18:02] We didn't even realize it until we moved however many states

[18:05] away and lived here and met.

[18:07] So we have a great relationship now too.

[18:09] So far all the partnerships have been extremely, extremely good.

[18:13] Really good to hear.

[18:14] Yeah thank you very much.

[18:15] This is great.

[18:18] Yes, sir Mr. yes.

[18:24]

[18:27] So to echo what Dylan said, I think Kerrville,

[18:32] pets alive and the big fix do.

[18:35] Excellent work in our community.

[18:37] But I think you have bad actors in the community who are not

[18:42] necessarily giving them a bad name,

[18:44] but are negating the work that they're doing.

[18:47] So I just have some questions on the feeding and the areas

[18:56] 25 yards away from any parking lot or commercial building.

[19:00] Is that whichever is furthest.

[19:03] Yes the goal is to keep the animals away from the parking

[19:07] lot for their own safety.

[19:08] So don't get run over by cars, but also

[19:10] to keep them away from the businesses and the people.

[19:13] Obviously, if they're running food establishments,

[19:15] let's say we don't want them there because there's

[19:17] a health concern.

[19:19] And it could be disruptive to the business

[19:21] if they're begging or doing things that animals

[19:24] do, those types of deals.

[19:26] So all these rules again that you're

[19:28] seeing they're in the contract, these

[19:29] are rules to address things that are currently happening, to stop

[19:32] them from happening and give US enforcement options

[19:35] against groups, as you said, that are bad actors that aren't

[19:38] following these guidelines.

[19:39] But hopefully moving forward as well.

[19:42] Any new colonies and things will they'll

[19:45] know these rules up front.

[19:46] The public education will be there

[19:47] through me because everything will have to roll through me.

[19:49] So I will approve of these colonies based on those rules.

[19:53] Is it this far from a business.

[19:54] Is it on private land that you own or have permission to.

[19:57] Is it.

[19:57] We'll go through all that before the city

[20:00] ever agrees to sign a contract with them,

[20:02] allowing them to do this.

[20:03] Is there a fine or not registering as a colony.

[20:12] There isn't currently, no.

[20:14] There's no existing fine other than they would be violating

[20:17] the city ordinance of feeding feral cats

[20:20] if it's within city limits.

[20:21] In which case, yes, we could.

[20:22] Then we have a process that we go through in the code

[20:25] department, which is where animal control falls right now,

[20:27] where there's a three Warning system.

[20:29] They're warned once we check back in a week,

[20:30] if they're still doing it, they're

[20:31] warned again on the third one is a final Warning.

[20:33] And then it's a citation.

[20:35] That citation can be anywhere from $200 up to way to $2,000,

[20:38] depending on the judge and the grievance of how many

[20:42] times and what they're doing.

[20:43] OK, so that would be the process we would currently

[20:46] follow to punish somebody who's just refusing

[20:49] to go along with the rules.

[20:52] I would like to make a suggestion

[20:54] on this contract that having had to deal with this myself.

[21:00] Yes, anyone can sign this last page and say yes, I apologize.

[21:08] That's all right.

[21:09]

[21:13] Time to pick up my child from school.

[21:17] So being that anyone can say, yes, this property

[21:24] has allowed me to feed these cats.

[21:26] I think the property owner should have somewhere on here

[21:31] saying that they're allowing this person to do so.

[21:39] And that's why this will filter through me now

[21:42] as the sole manager of the program,

[21:45] when they come to ask for one of these.

[21:47] I am the one who will vet all that with them.

[21:49] So then you're going to call the property owner.

[21:51] Exactly OK.

[21:52] They will have to provide that permission via phone call,

[21:55] or I'll have to go out and look at it, whatever it might be.

[21:57] That will all go through me to vet all that before they're

[22:00] allowed to sign this.

[22:01] And then I think 15 cats is too much.

[22:08] Yeah having seen it in person.

[22:10] Sure it's a lot.

[22:12] And I know there's ones in the past.

[22:15] Some of the ones that are grandfathered currently

[22:17] have many, many more than that.

[22:19] And so that was the thing is we didn't

[22:22] really know where to draw the line,

[22:23] what we went back and forth.

[22:26] Do we make it a dozen, do we make it 15, do we make it this,

[22:28] do we make it that.

[22:29] So we came up with that number arbitrarily.

[22:31] We thought, what could one person reasonably manage.

[22:35] Like how many cats in an area 15 kind of

[22:38] seemed like a reasonable number, like, OK,

[22:40] that's a reasonable amount of cats to manage as far as one

[22:43] person and maybe a backup because they are allowed to sign

[22:47] a backup person on here in case they fall ill

[22:49] or in the hospital, they can have a second signatory

[22:51] here as a backup that we put on the sheet, the registration

[22:54] sheet, so that if something happens to them,

[22:56] the duties immediately fall to that next person.

[22:59] So that's where we were at with the 15.

[23:01] But it is arbitrary.

[23:02] It can be changed.

[23:03] It's not hard.

[23:04] It's just what we came up with that we thought was reasonable.

[23:07]

[23:11] Thank you.

[23:11] You're welcome.

[23:12] And thank you all Kerrville pets alive and the big

[23:15] fix for all y'all to.

[23:16]

[23:19] Go ahead.

[23:21] Officer Lee on council member Smith's question.

[23:27] I know of a colony, Brenda of the colony I'm talking about off

[23:31] of rolling green and Birkdale.

[23:34] It's not on somebody's property.

[23:35] It's actually in a easement where camp meeting Creek is.

[23:39] So it's basically state.

[23:41] Waterway state.

[23:43] How would you go.

[23:44] I mean, it's established the cats are all clipped and snipped

[23:47] and spayed and taken care of.

[23:49] But how would you go.

[23:50] Would you have to call the state to say, hey, there's a cat

[23:54] colony on state property, or would

[23:56] you just go the closest person that's taking care of them.

[23:59] Yeah if it's uncontrolled land like that belongs to the state.

[24:02] Yeah, we're probably not going to follow up on it.

[24:05] Now if it's city property, we can obviously do that.

[24:07] We're the city.

[24:08] We can find out and say OK, do we

[24:09] want to allow this here or not.

[24:11] When it's state property.

[24:12] We're probably not going to chase it

[24:14] as long as it's not a problem.

[24:15] As far as it's not near a business,

[24:18] it's not disturbing a neighborhood nearby.

[24:19] It's not if it's just some unrestricted area

[24:21] and the cats are isolated to that, that's a part of the goal.

[24:24] We don't want them in an area where they're going to disturb

[24:26] the population in some way.

[24:28] So if they're happy in that kind of open space

[24:30] and it's not hurting anything in the area in any way ecologically

[24:33] or anything like that, then yeah,

[24:35] we're not going to chase it now if it becomes a problem.

[24:37] For some reason, if a red flag is raised by a certain party,

[24:40] then we can take those steps and dig into it, but otherwise

[24:44] we probably wouldn't.

[24:44] If it's just open land like that, they're happy

[24:48] and everybody's happy with them.

[24:49] So it's pretty much.

[24:50] Yeah, yeah.

[24:52] Anything else.

[24:54] Anybody who came tonight would like to speak.

[24:57] Come on up, please.

[25:00] State your name and city for the record, please.

[25:03] Good evening.

[25:04] My name is Beth Patterson.

[25:05] I'm the assistant coordinator for Kerrville pets alive.

[25:09] I need your business cards in my pocket.

[25:11] I need a lot of them.

[25:13] This orange shirt is my ticket to wherever I go.

[25:18] And my.

[25:18] My partners in crime.

[25:20] The big fix.

[25:21] I hand out their business cards.

[25:23] We work very hard together, and I constantly have people go,

[25:28] you have to register a colony.

[25:30] And this is so new.

[25:32] And so I need a reference, I need them.

[25:35] These are not people that necessarily get online.

[25:39] So where are you.

[25:41] They are Facebook kind of people.

[25:44] Do you have information going out that I can tag.

[25:48] Yes so AI can give you plenty of my business cards

[25:50] to put out there.

[25:51] We just finally got them.

[25:52] So we can do that I'll give you online are old too.

[25:54] So sure.

[25:56] Also yeah.

[25:56] So public education is a very big part of this new program.

[26:00] I'm working with Martin.

[26:01] We're trying to get a lot of things done,

[26:02] we'll be at bark in the park.

[26:03] We'll be at the New Kerrville pets alive grand opening

[26:06] to answer questions and just let people know

[26:08] in general that, hey, the city has this program now,

[26:11] we're out there.

[26:12] We're enforcing the ordinances.

[26:13] I took two roosters from a guy the other day,

[26:15] had roosters in the city.

[26:17] He said, I've had them for years.

[26:18] No one told me they weren't allowed here.

[26:19] I says, well, they weren't allowed here.

[26:20] He says.

[26:21] They just never go to animal control it.

[26:23] Yeah so I saw them.

[26:24] Yes so.

[26:25] So we are here now and we're enforcing these things.

[26:27] So a lot of people just need to learn that we're here

[26:29] and that we're doing these things now.

[26:31] And so that will be a big public education push.

[26:33] And we're working with all the partner agencies to do that.

[26:36] OK myself and big fix and capa partners

[26:40] are in capa in kick-ass every day.

[26:44] And so we have partnerships with I've

[26:46] been doing this for five years.

[26:48] We have partnership personal relationships with every ACO

[26:51] except for the new guys.

[26:52] And so I personally will pick up the phone and say,

[26:55] Daisy, there's a dog on so-and-so,

[26:58] and it hasn't gotten on the radio or whatever.

[27:00] I feel good about that.

[27:01] But in the city, I'm a County resident, so I'm

[27:04] anxious to see this progress.

[27:05] I live off of upper turtle Creek,

[27:07] and I want to make sure this happens.

[27:09] I'm now connected on the emergency system.

[27:12] I have a repeater on my property and so I'm

[27:15] connected in that environment.

[27:17] I want to make sure that everybody knows.

[27:19] And if you want to come at some point

[27:21] or get Reagan to come and explain

[27:23] this from their perspective, that you're doing this together.

[27:26] I have a colony that I am working with that

[27:28] has been established and has been there

[27:30] for over 20 or 30 years, and he definitely

[27:33] has more than 15 cats.

[27:34] So I'd like to see that 15 expand to the County

[27:38] if it's ever possible.

[27:40] I'll be real curious to see how far we go.

[27:42] Yeah, so I am working with them, and a lot of the things

[27:45] that we're establishing here within the city

[27:48] are having the positive effect of bleeding over to the County,

[27:51] even as far as how I have equipped myself

[27:53] for this position, they've kind of

[27:55] seen the benefits of defensive equipment and things

[27:57] like that and protection like a vest.

[27:59] I wear a vest when I'm out in the field

[28:01] and they've seen that benefit for their officers,

[28:03] so they're starting to do that as far as rules and the county's

[28:07] ordinances and rules.

[28:08] Yeah, I think we'll see some of that

[28:09] happen as well, where when we establish certain rules,

[28:12] they may follow.

[28:13] They may not.

[28:14] That's up to the County commissioners, of course.

[28:16] And then Reagan, who's running that program.

[28:18] But the positive relationship we've

[28:19] had so far is kind of leaning towards let's do this together.

[28:22] Let's work together.

[28:23] Let's all get on the same page, operate the same way.

[28:26] That way we can work hand in hand

[28:27] and there's no hang UPS. I worked on college campuses

[28:30] for 13 years, and so I know day to day to day for everything

[28:35] that you need, like grant writing

[28:36] and all that kind of stuff.

[28:37] So I'll be excited to see that information.

[28:39] Thank you for being here.

[28:40] We greatly appreciate it.

[28:41] You're very welcome.

[28:42]

[28:45] I have one more.

[28:46] Sure yes.

[28:47] I'd like to piggyback on council member

[28:50] Smith's suggestion about getting written permission

[28:53] to be on the property.

[28:55] I think it's fine to check, but people's memory and people can

[29:03] I think having it in writing, it's absolutely simple enough

[29:07] to add that to the contract and just have a second signatory

[29:10] for the property owner.

[29:11] If it's somebody different, we can absolutely do that.

[29:13] No problem.

[29:16] Anybody else.

[29:17] Anybody else from either of the groups.

[29:20] All right.

[29:21] It's odd that someone is not taking a chance to speak to us.

[29:27] I can get up there and say what a wonderful job

[29:29] he's doing, but come on up.

[29:34] Please step to the mic and say your name.

[29:36]

[29:39] Thank you for your presentation.

[29:41] You're very welcome.

[29:41] I have one small typo.

[29:42] I'll show you after.

[29:43] Oh, sure.

[29:44] Thank you.

[29:45] All right.

[29:46] Anything else on this item.

[29:48] Let's move on then to the next item, which

[29:52] I don't have in front of me.

[29:54] Item 2B Mr. Mayor and council.

[29:59] I'm excited to follow that.

[30:02] I haven't gotten a chance to spend

[30:04] too much time with Officer Lee yet, so that was a pleasant.

[30:09] That was nice to see.

[30:10] Well done.

[30:12] OK, so we're going to talk a little bit about flood

[30:15] in a couple of different phases.

[30:17] So I'll do some overview stuff.

[30:19] And then Kelly Hagemeyer from Kerr

[30:21] together no longer the city of Kerrville AI is here tonight.

[30:27] And she's going to talk a little bit about Kerr Together's

[30:29] process and what they're doing.

[30:31] And then the following item is kind of a continuation of that.

[30:34] And David and Julie will talk about the debris pickup.

[30:39] So without further ado.

[30:44] So immediate response is over.

[30:46] So it's recovery at this point.

[30:48] This seems like old hat for us, and I'm sorry about that.

[30:52] But we kind of know where this is headed.

[30:54]

[30:56] Our city services are operating as they normally do.

[31:00] We have some hiccups.

[31:01] We do have some temporary issues that we're working through.

[31:04] But I think with the exception of James Avery campus

[31:10] out on Harper, everybody's water and sewer

[31:13] connections are as they are.

[31:15] Staff is in the process of temporarily fixing that water

[31:19] line extension to James Avery, so they'll be back up

[31:22] and running.

[31:23] They won't notice the difference.

[31:24] It's still a temporary fix on our end.

[31:28] And so that's the disruption I think

[31:33] we see in the utility side.

[31:37] A lot of work left in the creeks,

[31:39] a lot of work left on the Riverside,

[31:42] and a lot of future projects coming our way.

[31:47] From an infrastructure standpoint,

[31:50] state continues to be here.

[31:52] I think they're operating a lot of their activity

[31:53] on last year's flooding.

[31:57] They have been a guidance for us during this time.

[32:02] But the presence is different this year

[32:05] than it was last year, right.

[32:07] You can feel that you can see it.

[32:11] Federal assistance.

[32:14] We're still waiting.

[32:17] I think the process is.

[32:21] Compiling all of the damage assessments

[32:23] for all the counties that were affected in Texas,

[32:25] and putting those all together as one package

[32:27] to go to President's desk.

[32:30] I think that is what's happening.

[32:32] And so we're continuing to push.

[32:36] Mayor was at a meeting last Friday,

[32:37] I believe, with reps from Congressman Roy's office

[32:43] or Congressman Roy was there, I believe to keep pushing.

[32:48] And so I think that's what we can do at this point

[32:50] is continue to advocate for ourselves,

[32:52] talk to our neighbors, continue to advocate for themselves

[32:54] as well.

[32:56] The state is pushing.

[32:58] I see we have that conversation.

[33:01] Not daily, but almost daily.

[33:03] Where we're at.

[33:06] You get tired of asking, but you keep asking.

[33:09] Yes do things like what happened in Hawaii and the flooding

[33:13] in Indiana and other natural disasters that are happening

[33:18] now after July 16 affect that.

[33:23] It's hard to speculate on it, but I think it does.

[33:26] I think there's severity levels.

[33:28] I think when you have I think when

[33:30] you have loss of human life, I think

[33:32] the responses are different.

[33:35] I think they are faster.

[33:37] And then it scales because when they're looking at it,

[33:41] if they're seeing this week there's something

[33:44] here the next week, something here

[33:45] the next week, something here.

[33:47] And, you get all of those requests simultaneously.

[33:50] I'm not sure I'm not sure the process, the methodology

[33:53] approved or disapproved.

[33:56] But you have 50 states and all the territories,

[34:01] all asking for federal dollars.

[34:03] Pocketbooks to be opened up.

[34:05] So it is a complicated process.

[34:08] Now, what I do understand is that while we see this

[34:12] as a delay in a federal response,

[34:15] because last year we had such an immediate turnaround,

[34:19] it does take a while to get those declarations.

[34:23] So I think two of the biggest facets of it

[34:30] are we talk about it all the time as individual assistance

[34:33] and public assistance.

[34:34] So if FEMA opens up those two tranches of funding,

[34:37] that opens up different avenues for both families,

[34:41] and community members living in town, as well as for us

[34:44] and what's available for us.

[34:46]

[34:49] We do have a significant philanthropic community.

[34:53] The dollars that came through for this flood,

[34:55] I think a lot of their donation fatigue is a real thing.

[35:03] $150 million plus was donated in last year's flood.

[35:10] I believe part of that money is that's going

[35:14] to this year's flood.

[35:16] One of the weird kind of not weird IRS regulation stipulation

[35:20] is that Community Foundation has to get approval

[35:24] from those donors to utilize that money from last year

[35:27] to this year, which is another step.

[35:30] And I think they had more than 100,000

[35:33] or more than 100,000 donors.

[35:35] So a lot of people to reach out to.

[35:39] But they've gotten some money out thus far,

[35:41] and some of those programs are operating and getting

[35:43] assistance out to people.

[35:46] We're going to keep working with Kerr

[35:48] together other as kind of our official

[35:50] long term recovery group.

[35:52] And so we meet with them on a weekly basis,

[35:55] talk to them all the time about what's available,

[35:59] how can we help.

[36:00] And they reciprocate and ask me, when are

[36:02] we going to handle the debris.

[36:04] And so both of our answers have been we're working on it.

[36:09] And so what you'll see tonight is

[36:10] that we are implementing not just working on it

[36:15] again TMM and DPs are operating.

[36:18] There will be another barge.

[36:20] There will be another crane there putting that stuff

[36:23] back out there as we speak.

[36:26] Those things are in place.

[36:29] And so those operations continue.

[36:31]

[36:37] Our water and wastewater again, our systems

[36:39] are operational, although not as we want them to be.

[36:43] The crews that work worked for David Barrera.

[36:49] Our magicians.

[36:50] And they will make these things work.

[36:52] And they will duct tape a thing, the officially duct tape

[36:56] with a clamp and all approved.

[37:00] But they can I mean to say they can work magic.

[37:04] Repairs on town Creek are going well

[37:09] for the water and wastewater.

[37:13] The repairs on the road is a significantly different

[37:15] conversation, although they have done a lot of work

[37:18] and the streets crews are here today sitting right there,

[37:21] and they are rock stars, all of them.

[37:25] There are still some issues with access and a few crossings.

[37:29] We know about those.

[37:31] Arcadia loop bridge, big one town

[37:34] Creek has some crossing issues.

[37:36] Obviously there's major damage throughout that.

[37:40] We have a large transmission line,

[37:43] a few that cross at the water treatment

[37:45] plant that are transmit water from the treatment plant

[37:49] into town.

[37:50] Those were, oh, I don't five to 10 feet below the bed

[37:57] of the river when they were built.

[38:01] And that water has been scoured a little bit

[38:03] and they are no longer that deep.

[38:06] And so it came to light when the barge went over the river,

[38:14] as they were pulling some of their material back out,

[38:16] scoured one of the lines, which happens then.

[38:20] That was fine.

[38:20] We were able to fix it, but it highlighted this larger project

[38:25] that will be a future public, probably a future FEMA project

[38:30] is what we are planning for, but we

[38:32] don't want to have that line so close

[38:35] to the surface of the water, not to the surface of the water,

[38:38] but to the bed.

[38:41] And so I think those are a couple of our biggest projects

[38:45] that we're looking at, obviously,

[38:47] are the bridge, that transmission

[38:49] line, town Creek, river trail.

[38:53] Big components.

[38:54] Talk about those.

[38:55]

[38:59] Knapp and Cypress are returning to public use.

[39:02] The river trail does remain closed,

[39:04] although we've had a huge volunteer outpouring from folks

[39:07] with heavy equipment who came out and did a lot of work

[39:11] over the last few weeks.

[39:13] And I know Jay will get mad when I say this,

[39:15] but the river trail is closed.

[39:16] But we see people out there walking,

[39:17] so if you're amongst those who are trespassing,

[39:20] let's say there has been a lot of work

[39:24] and I think you'll be able to see the work that has been done.

[39:27] There's a significant amount of movement in that river rock.

[39:32] Every time you drive over the bridge

[39:35] and you look down at Louise Hays park,

[39:36] you'll see a lot of that right there.

[39:39] And that's all up and down the river.

[39:43] So in that we have areas that we still

[39:46] need to fix, a lot of cavitations, a lot of areas

[39:49] where the drop offs are as high as this desk,

[39:51] sometimes as high as the dais there.

[39:54] And so we can't open that up until we

[39:56] mitigate that because it's just too much it's too dangerous.

[40:01] We don't want somebody to go out there and trip and fall.

[40:03]

[40:07] Again, the volunteers this time around,

[40:09] I think that's going to be a big delta for us this year,

[40:11] is that we don't have the disaster declaration.

[40:14] We still have to get all this stuff done.

[40:18] Our teams are working hard at getting the things that we can

[40:21] do done, but the volunteers are seeing a gap

[40:26] and they're filling that gap.

[40:28] So with heavy equipment, with just volunteers

[40:30] coming to pick up trash, I know Lisa and Saladin and a bunch

[40:36] of her friends have been out cleaning up town

[40:39] Creek just every couple of days they're

[40:41] out there picking stuff out.

[40:43] And so lots of groups are out there helping us out.

[40:46]

[40:51] One of the things that we are looking at now is.

[40:54]

[40:56] How do we rebuild.

[40:58] Where do we rebuild.

[40:59] What is a place like town.

[41:00] Creek is a perfect example.

[41:02] I spoke to you all at that budget hearing

[41:04] and said $57 million to fix the thing, that area,

[41:09] and I'm sorry I said it.

[41:11] I didn't want to say it.

[41:12] It's a horribly large number and it's not a realistic number.

[41:16] That's a number that we provide to FEMA

[41:18] to say to bring it back to those preexisting conditions.

[41:22] This is what that looks like.

[41:23] And that's just never what we'll do.

[41:25] But we have to supply that to FEMA.

[41:29] But we're looking at this from a functionality standpoint.

[41:32] Who needs access.

[41:34] Where do they need access.

[41:36] And how can we most efficiently make that happen.

[41:39] And the town Creek that I think we all knew

[41:42] is always going to be different.

[41:46] More to follow on that.

[41:48] In that endeavor we will work towards grants,

[41:52] philanthropic funding where we can

[41:53] and then keep kind of pushing that volunteer effort because I

[41:57] think we're going to have to do a lot of this ourselves

[42:01] to get it done.

[42:02] So the next phase is David will talk about debris

[42:08] removal here in a little bit.

[42:09] We're going to keep working on FEMA

[42:11] and tdem documentation for anything that we're going to do.

[42:14] We're going to do all of our work compliant

[42:16] with those regulations.

[42:18] So that way, if and when the time

[42:21] comes for us to get reimbursed, we have done it in accordance

[42:23] with their rules so we can get the maximum reimbursement

[42:26] for it.

[42:28] Keep advocating for that.

[42:29]

[42:33] Priorities for what we can fix is next.

[42:36] Because I think we have somewhere between 65 million

[42:39] and $100 million worth of damage,

[42:42] and there's not going to be enough funding

[42:43] to cover all that.

[42:44] So what are the priorities.

[42:46] So we will get that list to you and triage that and then

[42:51] start working on those permanent fixes for all of our projects.

[42:55] So that's the big picture for me.

[42:58] Kelly has a lot more detail about what curr

[43:01] together has been doing, so she's

[43:03] going to step up and take over.

[43:05] I'll answer any questions you have now, or if y'all want

[43:07] to wait until she's finished.

[43:09] Questions for Mr. Horn's.

[43:13] OK thank you MS Hagemeyer.

[43:19] Good afternoon.

[43:20] Council thank you for having me here.

[43:22] My name is Kelly Hagemeyer.

[43:24] I am the program manager for curr together.

[43:27] And this is our one month recovery

[43:31] report for the 26th July 2026.

[43:36] Severe weather event.

[43:41] So, assessing the istat data, we have 966 residents that were

[43:48] verified as being affected.

[43:50] 223 of those were major or destroyed, the majority

[43:56] of that damage being in the Kerrville city limits

[44:01] with 190 homes, severe sustaining, major

[44:06] or destroyed, major damage or destroyed.

[44:09] And so I also put up the 2025 comparisons.

[44:15] So while there were less affected,

[44:18] obviously the proportion of major and damage was longer.

[44:22] However, as I mentioned, this damage was more centralized

[44:25] than the Kerrville city limits.

[44:27] We also put up there the number of businesses

[44:31] that were affected.

[44:32] That was something from 2025.

[44:34] We were well aware that we needed to keep in mind,

[44:38] even though that there weren't a lot of resources

[44:40] and it wasn't something that Tedham

[44:42] necessarily kept track of.

[44:44] But we felt that was really important for our community.

[44:48] And then this year, we had a much larger number of businesses

[44:52] that were affected and especially majorly destroyed

[44:57] and damaged, with 20 of those businesses being

[45:02] destroyed within the Kerrville city limits.

[45:06] So then from the Tedham verified, then we

[45:11] have the other list of people who have been coming in

[45:14] since then, or maybe didn't make it to the I-stat or got

[45:18] lost somewhere in the system.

[45:21] Just as council member Harris and I were talking about,

[45:25] lots of people are still coming in just

[45:27] now submitting their damages.

[45:31] And so this is an assessment that occurred together

[45:34] has as we collect various lists that

[45:37] are coming from other organizations

[45:40] throughout the County.

[45:42] We're trying to cross-reference, see

[45:44] if we've doubled up anywhere.

[45:46] So that 1,200 number might go down.

[45:49] But given that Tatum had verified almost 1,000 people

[45:55] were thinking that a near 1,200 is

[45:59] much more accurate of how many people were actually affected.

[46:02]

[46:09] So as we go through with the residents of what their needs

[46:12] are right now, there are still residents

[46:14] that need muck and gut.

[46:15] And so as we're hearing about those people,

[46:18] we are putting them on a list and trying

[46:20] to get them with a vote.

[46:22] As Mr. mentioned, we have not quite as many resources,

[46:26] which also means volunteers.

[46:28] So a lot of those video ads, those volunteer organizations

[46:32] active in disaster.

[46:34] They have already left.

[46:36] Many of them are still monitoring what needs.

[46:41] There still are, but it's a little less organized

[46:45] or consistent at this time.

[46:47] And we're kind of having to reach out

[46:48] and we're having to meet some sort of threshold

[46:51] in their mind to be able to collect whether it's

[46:54] 50, hundreds, 200 volunteers for the weekend

[46:58] throughout the whole state to come

[46:59] and finding a place for them to stay

[47:01] and all of those things for them to come

[47:03] in to continue to do those response

[47:05] efforts, debris removal.

[47:08] My staff is very grateful that the city and the County

[47:12] have a mitigation plan right now,

[47:14] that it was one of the main questions

[47:17] that we were receiving is when how are

[47:20] we getting rid of this stuff off of our property.

[47:22] So we're grateful to David and his crew

[47:25] for working very quickly to come up with a solution.

[47:30] Financial assistance.

[47:31] Light on the Hill is currently distributing

[47:33] emergency financial assistance.

[47:36] So a lot of people losing their house or not being able to be

[47:40] in their house, trying to live in a house

[47:42] that they probably shouldn't.

[47:44] Maybe they lost work.

[47:45] They lost their car.

[47:47] I saw a report today that 95 households

[47:50] have said that their car was affected in some way.

[47:56] Probably lost completely.

[47:58] And some of those that was just households.

[48:00] So some of those they lost both cars.

[48:04] And then temporary housing is something else.

[48:07] These people who probably shouldn't be living

[48:09] in their home trying to better understand

[48:11] what those solutions are with such little funding

[48:14] available at this time.

[48:18] Kelly, can I ask a question on that last slide.

[48:20] Oh, yes.

[48:20] Of course.

[48:23] Financial assistance light on the Hill.

[48:25] So if they come to y'all and say, hey, we need this.

[48:30] Are they going to light on the Hill.

[48:31] Is that going through, y'all.

[48:33] And light on the Hill or is that a totally different.

[48:36] So right now.

[48:38] So yes, if someone comes and they have not light on the Hill

[48:41] is getting their lists through rebuild Kerr.

[48:45] So if someone comes to us and says,

[48:47] I haven't received financial assistance and I was affected,

[48:51] we can get them into the system.

[48:53] We do have a disaster.

[48:55] Case manager threw light on the Hill

[48:57] that is at 98 Coronato 9 to four.

[49:02] We have someone there and they can double check

[49:04] if they are in the system.

[49:05] We just haven't gotten they haven't just gotten to them yet.

[49:08] They are.

[49:09] Beth Palmer, there she is.

[49:12] Her goal is to write checks to 200 households every week.

[49:17] So that is 200 people, 200 households that they're needing

[49:20] to talk to every week to comb through to verify,

[49:26] because they have their own checks and balances too.

[49:29] But they have done an amazing job to get through that.

[49:33] And so her goal was to get all of that money

[49:35] out within six weeks.

[49:37] Yes, ma'am.

[49:38] Some of the first people that came in that first week,

[49:41] I know we were up and running as far as input

[49:43] and taking their case.

[49:46] So are they being called now that there

[49:48] is this light on the Hill.

[49:49] Financial assistance.

[49:51] Yes we're going back through our list and data

[49:56] sharing and giving them and double

[49:58] checking with the disaster case managers

[50:01] to make sure that as people come in or if we think that maybe

[50:05] someone got lost through the cracks

[50:06] to make sure that they are in their system,

[50:09] could have been one of the intakes I did.

[50:11] So you might want to double check those.

[50:13] We will double check.

[50:16] Not my skill set.

[50:19] You did a wonderful job.

[50:20] Thank you for coming.

[50:21] You're so welcome.

[50:22] You're so welcome.

[50:25] So one of the acronym soups that we got to learn very early

[50:31] on last year was voadores.

[50:33] So those volunteer organizations active in disasters and occur

[50:37] together is a collaboration of local, regional,

[50:39] and national partners.

[50:41] And these ads are part of that.

[50:42] These four are the ones that we worked most closely with.

[50:46] They weren't the only ones who were in town.

[50:48] They were just the most consistent

[50:50] with checking in with us.

[50:51] And they also gave me closeout packets, which always makes

[50:55] it easier to collect data.

[50:58] And so Samaritan's Purse, all hands and hearts,

[51:00] Texans on mission and Team Rubicon.

[51:02] And so we're very grateful for them.

[51:04] We stay in constant contact with them.

[51:07] Because they're wanting to come back into the community

[51:12] whenever they find funding or whenever

[51:15] we have a large enough work order for them.

[51:19]

[51:23] This weekend, actually, the Latter day Saints

[51:25] are coming into town, and so I'm coordinating with them with

[51:29] that church group right now.

[51:31]

[51:35] Global empowerment mission has been a wonderful partner

[51:38] to curd together.

[51:41] They are able to help us not only just with individuals

[51:45] but also businesses.

[51:47] And they also manage the warehouse,

[51:49] which was very important from last year Mr. horns can tell you

[51:56] plenty of nightmare stories about the warehouse

[51:58] from last year.

[52:00] And so this year it was much more organized.

[52:03] We had everyone in place.

[52:05] And in the weeks following the disaster,

[52:07] gem was able to distribute and deliver supplies to residents

[52:12] and other voids and curd together is very excited we are

[52:17] working towards our 501(c)3, our non-profit status,

[52:21] and so we are just waiting on our IRS determination letter.

[52:24] And so right now gem is curd together

[52:29] financial fiscal sponsor as we mature as a nonprofit.

[52:35]

[52:40] As I said from last year, we really

[52:42] learned how important it was.

[52:45] Kurt together and Kurt EDC were well

[52:47] aware of the economic damages from disasters

[52:50] and the high number of businesses that don't survive.

[52:53] And so that became a really high priority.

[52:55] And one of our great partners during this time

[52:58] has been lift fund.

[53:00] So lift fund.

[53:01] From the 2025 fund, flood was able to distribute nearly $20

[53:06] million in grants and loans.

[53:08] And then whenever the 26 flood occurred,

[53:12] they shifted some additional loan money

[53:15] that they had that they had just started distributing,

[53:18] and they shifted that to grants.

[53:19] And those were $10,000 grants at the time.

[53:22] And then we were blessed by the Community

[53:25] Foundation, who granted another 5 million to be towards grants.

[53:31] And so those grants are a maximum of 50,000 that.

[53:37] That application closed, I believe either Thursday.

[53:40] It closed last week.

[53:41] And so there were 103 applicants.

[53:44] And so that money should be distributed

[53:46] as soon as next week.

[53:48]

[53:53] So the remaining critical needs at this point.

[53:56] So we continue to connect with the various

[53:58] with various funding sources to secure votes,

[54:01] secure vote activity.

[54:04] Light on the Hill is still funding

[54:08] emergency financial assistance public assistance.

[54:13] So we are still working with the city and County

[54:17] on what infrastructure needs they have,

[54:19] as Mr. Horn has laid out.

[54:21] Temporary housing.

[54:22] We are collaborating with emergency

[54:25] housing funds and other temporary housing solutions.

[54:30] We're getting creative.

[54:32] We're looking into some RVs.

[54:33] I had a conversation with Drew just

[54:37] clarifying where RVs could and could

[54:39] not be within the city limits.

[54:42] And so we're also working with the Parks Department

[54:47] to see what that would look like.

[54:48] If we need someone to be in an RV for a longer stay,

[54:52] and if that would be possible at Ksp and what

[54:55] those funding requirements would be.

[54:58] Some more creative underlining concerns.

[55:01] Agriculture there is not many resources for agriculture.

[55:05] We kind of knew this last year from the disaster

[55:08] between Agrilife and the Texas Department of agriculture.

[55:13] Those are your only two sources, and it is not quick

[55:17] and it's a little cumbersome.

[55:20] So we're still working through a lot of fences down

[55:23] and stuff like that.

[55:26] Mold remediation.

[55:28] We're working to collaborate with some workshops

[55:31] with some of the voids.

[55:32] The free options I have are not quick and the now options

[55:38] are expensive.

[55:39] So y'all know how that works.

[55:42] Private roads.

[55:43] We are still assessing private roads

[55:45] and trying to understand what that looks like.

[55:48] Between finding the equipment, a license

[55:51] operator material and fuel.

[55:54] Putting all those four together takes some time.

[55:57]

[55:59] And then the key things that occur together needs

[56:02] to try to officially transition into recovery

[56:06] is connecting with all the individuals

[56:09] and understanding their needs.

[56:11] Continuing our collaboration with city, city and County

[56:15] staff on infrastructure.

[56:18] Continuing to engage with our ads.

[56:21] And lastly, FEMA individual assistance.

[56:24] So I think as city council and the County commissioners

[56:29] and our Governmental Affairs and everyone

[56:32] for collaborating with our state and federal representatives

[56:38] and really pushing for this declaration.

[56:41]

[56:43] And with that, any questions.

[56:47] I'll just.

[56:48] Sorry you're fine.

[56:50] I just want to thank you, Kelly, because I had.

[56:52]

[56:55] I'm just going to claim I can't see what's going on.

[56:57]

[57:00] You were nice enough to let me come in,

[57:01] because what happens is on the street when

[57:03] you go visit these neighborhoods again, they have more questions.

[57:07] Different questions and misinformation.

[57:10] So I'm really anytime I think y'all needed to go visit with

[57:15] Kelly or someone I try to make it convenient for you because I

[57:18] know you're extremely busy, but it really helped me that day

[57:21] to get even some of this information you're giving us

[57:24] now, so that we can relay that to the public and start to give

[57:29] them some hope and some confidence that,

[57:30] yes, you're on the radar, that we're working on this debris.

[57:34] We're working on all of these things as best we can,

[57:37] as fast as we can.

[57:39] And the money coming in helped.

[57:41] I mean, getting those numbers to was a boost in the confidence

[57:45] that we're going to get through this.

[57:47] So thank you very much.

[57:49] Thank you crystal.

[57:52] No, thank you for all your very thorough updates.

[57:56] No you're welcome.

[57:57] Work that you're doing.

[57:58] Thanks yeah I agree.

[58:02] Thanks very much.

[58:03] It's still amazing that Kirk is doing such a great job,

[58:08] and it's a little comforting in a way.

[58:11] We've got another disaster, but we're up and running already,

[58:15] so appreciate all the hard work and the coordination

[58:20] that you're getting accomplished.

[58:21] Thank you.

[58:23] Yeah I hate to be this guy.

[58:25] No that's OK.

[58:26] Can you go back a couple of slides to the left.

[58:30] Which one.

[58:31] Talking about the lift fund and the amount of money.

[58:33] And keep going right there.

[58:39] So I understand the grants.

[58:41] Grants don't get paid back.

[58:43] Let's talk about this center section here that says loans.

[58:46] $11,883,539 in loans.

[58:51] I have been asked numerous times by people in the community,

[58:56] was that their money from the get go.

[58:58] Did they have that.

[58:59] Is that what they're loaning, or did they

[59:01] get that from other places and they're making loans off of it.

[59:06] And are they charging interest.

[59:08] Are they basically getting $12 million

[59:11] in New business because of a disaster.

[59:15] I am not bashing the fund.

[59:17] I am so glad they're here.

[59:20] They stood up and talked about the grants,

[59:22] but this came up last year in the very beginning when

[59:27] the foundation was giving out grants and people were saying,

[59:30] oh, it's loans, it's loans, and they got to pay it back.

[59:33] That is not the case with the foundation.

[59:35] But right here, it says loans and Kelly,

[59:37] I'm not trying to bash anything.

[59:39] I'm just people ask I need to ask

[59:41] a question for the citizens of Kerrville

[59:43] about why it says loans.

[59:46] Yeah and how is the money.

[59:49] Are they loaning only to Kerr County and comfort

[59:52] to make sure it stays here.

[59:53] And when that money comes back in, it gets paid off.

[59:56] Are they loaning that money back out to people of Kerr,

[59:59] Kerrville and comfort area.

[1:00:01] So I can probably answer some of your questions, not all of them.

[1:00:05] And I can definitely get you more information from the lift

[1:00:09] fund to answer those questions, because those

[1:00:11] really are valid questions because we

[1:00:13] have worked through that also.

[1:00:16] And so the majority of their loans

[1:00:20] have been in Kerr County and comfort

[1:00:23] just at this time because we've been working with them.

[1:00:25] But they are a national company who does help during disasters.

[1:00:30] Lift fund also can be utilized not in disaster.

[1:00:36] So actually Curry DC has is looking

[1:00:39] at also partnering with them to help businesses to understand

[1:00:43] business plans and just becoming more financially secure

[1:00:47] and thinking about different ways to set up your business

[1:00:50] and just being ready and better prepared financially.

[1:00:55] The majority of those loans, I believe,

[1:00:58] were actually the interest.

[1:01:00] There were 0 interest loans, so the money

[1:01:03] that was donated to the fund was to buy down that interest so

[1:01:07] that whenever people were paying back,

[1:01:09] it was just the principal, not the interest.

[1:01:15] I did not do well in finance class,

[1:01:18] but that is how I understand it in the best layman's term.

[1:01:23] It's just one of those questions that's being asked,

[1:01:26] and it's a sore subject that the perception, I guess,

[1:01:32] is they have a disaster and there's a company that comes in

[1:01:37] to help on one side, but then they're

[1:01:39] loaning on the other side to be paid back.

[1:01:41] So yes.

[1:01:43] And we had the same conversations

[1:01:45] with some of the banks too.

[1:01:47] And so there were many that were encouraged to talk to your bank

[1:01:53] first, see what type of loan options and what percentage

[1:01:56] they can give you and even lift.

[1:01:59] One was very honest about that.

[1:02:01] Talk to your bank first.

[1:02:02] See what if they can maybe work with you.

[1:02:05] But some companies did find that the loan option just because

[1:02:10] of that 0% interest, because that funding that was given

[1:02:13] was specifically to buy down the interest of the loans just

[1:02:17] work better for them.

[1:02:18] But I'll work with Adrian and I'll get some more

[1:02:21] definite answers for you.

[1:02:25] Any other comments or questions.

[1:02:27] Thank you ma'am.

[1:02:28] Thank you.

[1:02:29]

[1:02:32] To see MS Behrens.

[1:02:34] All right.

[1:02:42] Good afternoon, Mayor.

[1:02:43] Council I'll keep it kind of brief on this,

[1:02:47] but we'll do a quick rundown on our curbside collection update.

[1:02:50] As we've been talking about earlier from day one,

[1:02:55] we start looking at flood debris management.

[1:02:57] So we start looking at how we can

[1:02:58] develop systems for public input through surveys,

[1:03:01] emails, phone calls.

[1:03:03] I want to recognize Stephanie Daley and Angela North, who's

[1:03:06] on the other side of the wall, who they've been

[1:03:07] the frontline folks of taking hundreds

[1:03:09] of calls and guiding people in the right direction for that.

[1:03:12] So that's critical in any kind of management process.

[1:03:16] Also evaluate our existing resources.

[1:03:18] What do we have in place.

[1:03:20] We do have a solid waste program.

[1:03:22] We're able to utilize that.

[1:03:24] Volunteers were here already on the ground coordinating that

[1:03:27] with Kelly and her team out there

[1:03:29] offering guidance on placement of items at the curb.

[1:03:33] Doesn't matter if we're going to pick it up,

[1:03:34] a third party is going to pick it up.

[1:03:35] There's guidelines on putting stuff out at the curb,

[1:03:38] and those were the initial questions that we were getting.

[1:03:40] So we got to have that information available.

[1:03:42] Also evaluate the options for expanded collections

[1:03:46] when that becomes available.

[1:03:47] And then last but not least is secure funding.

[1:03:50] How do we manage the cost.

[1:03:52] So we've already looking at those on the back end.

[1:03:55] And then so our initial debris management initiatives,

[1:03:59] we issued over 750 vouchers since July 16.

[1:04:03] We typically issue about 150 to 200 vouchers a month.

[1:04:08] So we've issued 750.

[1:04:09] And those all go through Stephanie and Angela.

[1:04:13] So they've been pretty busy with just that aspect of it.

[1:04:16] We were able to obtain 14 dumpsters

[1:04:18] that I was able to place in high volume areas.

[1:04:22] Those were donated and provided quick response on deliveries.

[1:04:26] That made it challenging because everybody wanted a dumpster,

[1:04:29] but I had to make sure I place a dumpster

[1:04:30] where I can have several homes or properties utilize

[1:04:33] that dumpster.

[1:04:35] We coordinated with curr together

[1:04:36] for assistance with volunteers.

[1:04:38] I can place dumpsters at the curb.

[1:04:40] Who's going to load them up.

[1:04:41] And I didn't want the people that just went

[1:04:43] through, what with the flood, to have to load their own stuff up.

[1:04:46] So we've had many volunteers as Kelly mentioned

[1:04:49] in her slide, Team Rubicon.

[1:04:52] All hands and hearts.

[1:04:54] We had Texans on a mission.

[1:04:56] We also had private companies assisting with equipment.

[1:04:59] Have folks from creative solutions

[1:05:01] that helped load up three or four dumpsters already.

[1:05:04] I talked to them when I was out surveying

[1:05:06] and I said, do you mind helping me out.

[1:05:08] And they said, yes, I'll help you out.

[1:05:09] So they were able to get some equipment out there and load

[1:05:12] up those dumpsters for us.

[1:05:15] We were able to remove 420yd which is a little over 30 tons,

[1:05:19] is what we did with that initial program

[1:05:21] with the roll-off dumpsters.

[1:05:24] Also, our city crew removed debris

[1:05:25] from 18 right of way sites.

[1:05:27] We did that kind of a little pilot program

[1:05:30] ahead of what we just started yesterday, right.

[1:05:33] So this is all it's been done before our official Citywide

[1:05:36] curbside collection, all that.

[1:05:39] It's running parallel with us obtaining the data.

[1:05:42] Well, I'm obtaining data, the surveys,

[1:05:44] verifying all that stuff.

[1:05:45] We're out doing this right initially.

[1:05:47] So we have been putting some work out there.

[1:05:51] So implementing the curbside collection program,

[1:05:54] we communicated with Cheatham for guidance.

[1:05:56] Julie and I met with them looking at third party

[1:05:59] operations and timelines.

[1:06:01] What does that look like to get a third party to come in here.

[1:06:04] There's a lot of boxes that need to be checked.

[1:06:06] It's a lengthy process in order to follow FEMA guidelines.

[1:06:09] So we also looked at our operational transition

[1:06:12] from emergency operations in public works.

[1:06:15] Now that things are stabilized, what are our resources

[1:06:17] look like.

[1:06:18] What can we do now to pivot from that

[1:06:20] and assist with this collection program

[1:06:23] with these gentlemen here in streets and figured out, OK,

[1:06:25] are we going to be able to handle this.

[1:06:27] And keep in mind, we had already been surveying the whole city

[1:06:30] on what's out there.

[1:06:31] So we had a good idea of what's out there and it was manageable.

[1:06:34] We felt that we can handle that on our own.

[1:06:36] So we established a systematic process

[1:06:38] to identify, document, verify and map

[1:06:41] out areas throughout town.

[1:06:43] That survey right there on the right hand

[1:06:44] side that was available online.

[1:06:46] I want to thank Josh and giz coordinated.

[1:06:51] Help out with that and get that online so folks can submit stuff

[1:06:54] because that's important for us to be

[1:06:56] able to gauge what's out there.

[1:06:59] So the community feedback.

[1:07:01] So we did obtain several surveys over 100.

[1:07:05] We got that data.

[1:07:07] And then we created our work orders

[1:07:08] to identify certain areas throughout town,

[1:07:10] as you can see right there.

[1:07:11] So you'll see looking for clusters high volume areas.

[1:07:14] Any safety concerns allowed us and our staff and Daniel, Chris

[1:07:19] and other folks were out taking pictures

[1:07:20] and verifying loads and coming up with this kind of a heat map,

[1:07:24] if you will.

[1:07:26] And also, we were looking at removing any duplicates or piles

[1:07:29] that were no longer at the curb and then at the end,

[1:07:32] results create efficient routes.

[1:07:34] So this is all important as we start our curbside program.

[1:07:41] And then we followed up with our strategic city crew collection.

[1:07:45] We decided for us to handle this.

[1:07:48] We evaluated the equipment, resources.

[1:07:51] Spoke to these guys here and said,

[1:07:52] let's get a specialized team to focus on this mission.

[1:07:54] That way it's a core group, and that's

[1:07:56] what they're going to be doing for the next couple of weeks.

[1:07:59] We also had equipment available from Parks and rec.

[1:08:01] Jay still here.

[1:08:02] Thanks for letting us borrow that.

[1:08:03] That grappler unit work together, helping each other out

[1:08:06] through various departments.

[1:08:07] So that was very beneficial.

[1:08:09] We do have an additional unit coming in.

[1:08:12] It's here.

[1:08:13] It's here today.

[1:08:14] So it's here.

[1:08:15] So we're able to duplicate our efforts

[1:08:18] and hopefully move things a little bit quicker.

[1:08:21] Also again develop the collection

[1:08:23] routes based on the submissions that we've received.

[1:08:26] We also are conducting daily recaps.

[1:08:29] I know yesterday we kicked off our collection,

[1:08:31] we were able to pick up 7 loads.

[1:08:33] About 2 and 1/2 tons is what we collected yesterday.

[1:08:37] I know it doesn't sound 6.9 at the end of today,

[1:08:42] so we're making progress.

[1:08:44] So we'll continue to have those daily recaps

[1:08:47] to make sure that things are running efficiently out there.

[1:08:49] We're running into any concerns, anything

[1:08:51] out there that we need to be aware of.

[1:08:52] So we can alter our operations.

[1:08:55] But so far things are going great.

[1:08:57] And you'll see on the right side just a quick snapshot

[1:09:01] of the data that we're collecting so that we

[1:09:04] can operate efficiently.

[1:09:08] So the initial sweep began yesterday began

[1:09:11] on the West West Side of town.

[1:09:13] We'll be heading East.

[1:09:15] As we mentioned, press releases and different messages as we're

[1:09:19] collecting flood related debris.

[1:09:21] We want to emphasize that to everybody

[1:09:23] that it's flood related debris.

[1:09:26] Household items, construction debris, things like that.

[1:09:30] Now we're not collecting brush or household hazardous items.

[1:09:35] Brush is going to be conducted at a different phase.

[1:09:38] So I'll touch on what Republic is doing.

[1:09:41] Costume Republic.

[1:09:42] That's our solid waste program.

[1:09:44] That's utilizing one of our resources.

[1:09:45] So as our crews are moving from West to East picking up

[1:09:49] this debris, Republic will start their brush collection

[1:09:53] second week in September.

[1:09:55] And then once then we'll follow back after them.

[1:09:59] They're going to pick up what's allowed per our contract.

[1:10:02] So that's helping us get some of this debris picked up by them.

[1:10:05] And then we'll follow along pick up any remaining.

[1:10:07] So that's how this phase is going to work for this brush.

[1:10:11] And again we'll stay on Route during this phase.

[1:10:14] And staff will be confirming cleared streets.

[1:10:17] That way.

[1:10:17] We don't have any folks that say, our stuff was out there,

[1:10:20] so we'll have initial route inspections.

[1:10:24] Then they collect the stuff.

[1:10:26] I'm sorry, I have a question.

[1:10:27] Sorry the green things.

[1:10:29] Are there different actual shapes to.

[1:10:33] Yeah they vary.

[1:10:35] Some of them are they dumpsters or those

[1:10:37] are all the work orders.

[1:10:38] Those are all the OK locations.

[1:10:41] Got it.

[1:10:41] So people submitted their surveys,

[1:10:43] and then we transfer them over to our software that we use.

[1:10:47] And that's how we're able to map out.

[1:10:49] Thank you.

[1:10:50]

[1:10:54] And so the next steps finalize the plan for vegetative debris.

[1:10:58] I submitted an application today to the Texas Commission

[1:11:01] on Environmental Quality for the processing site.

[1:11:06] So we're also going to utilize our solid waste program,

[1:11:09] as I mentioned earlier.

[1:11:10] And then we'll develop those routes.

[1:11:13] There's going to be new submissions.

[1:11:14] They're going to be coming in.

[1:11:15] So we're going to review them and verify them

[1:11:17] just like we did in the past.

[1:11:18] And then important thing here is for us to continue tracking

[1:11:21] all operations and expenses.

[1:11:23] Our work order software is it's actually coming in handy.

[1:11:27] It's helping out with our routes.

[1:11:29] We're having pictures document as much stuff as we can,

[1:11:32] attach invoices.

[1:11:34] I talked to Angel during our meeting

[1:11:37] and he was impressed with what we already have.

[1:11:39] He's like, oh, you guys are.

[1:11:40] Yeah you have a good system already in place.

[1:11:43] So also continued public education and update.

[1:11:47] Update the public accordingly with what we've done

[1:11:49] and what we're going to be doing in the future.

[1:11:51] So we've done quite a bit, but there's still

[1:11:54] a lot of work ahead of us.

[1:11:55] But without our systems in place, the volunteers,

[1:11:59] dedicated staff having a good system here,

[1:12:01] I think that makes things possible.

[1:12:03] So very proud of everybody who's helped out to this point

[1:12:07] and at this time, take any questions you may have.

[1:12:12] Well, I thought first questions, comments I do not thank

[1:12:17] you for all your team is doing.

[1:12:20] I'm seeing it.

[1:12:21] Thank you.

[1:12:21] Very impressed with what you've all

[1:12:25] got coordinated and organized.

[1:12:26] And so thanks for doing the good work.

[1:12:29] You're welcome.

[1:12:30] Thank you David.

[1:12:32] First thank you Brandon.

[1:12:34] Thank you Chris everybody.

[1:12:36] Gentlemen, thank you all for.

[1:12:39] The question's been asked.

[1:12:41] Michael and I discussed it.

[1:12:44] I know the answer, but it's just what took so long.

[1:12:51] Who's paying for this.

[1:12:52] I know the answer to what took so long.

[1:12:54] Don't answer that.

[1:12:54] I'm not asking.

[1:12:56] But this is something the city is doing right now.

[1:12:59] Because I'm just saying it for the public to hear.

[1:13:03] But we don't have FEMA.

[1:13:05] FEMA is not here.

[1:13:06] They're not doing anything.

[1:13:07] They even when they do sign the declarations

[1:13:10] and we are still working on that.

[1:13:11] And I know the mayor is pushing us.

[1:13:15] That's 75% And Julie, if I'm stealing some of your thunder

[1:13:19] here, but the city is still going

[1:13:23] to be responsible for 25% of whatever

[1:13:25] the total bill is from town Creek Road to turtle Creek.

[1:13:31] With the infrastructural problems that

[1:13:32] we had to debris cleanup.

[1:13:35] The question was asked, why did it take so long.

[1:13:37] Well we are.

[1:13:40] One month and 9 days from our last disaster.

[1:13:47] It doesn't just happen overnight.

[1:13:49] Your crew.

[1:13:50] All crews are out doing what they need to do.

[1:13:56] Chris, I know you were mucking turtle Creek when the pipe broke

[1:14:01] and everything that had to be brought in to fix

[1:14:03] the sewer line that popped.

[1:14:05] So what took so long is we're trying to get

[1:14:08] our citizens utilities fixed.

[1:14:11] And correct me if I'm wrong.

[1:14:12] Please and I've been wrong before,

[1:14:15] but that's what number one, we got

[1:14:17] to take care of our citizens, get water back to them.

[1:14:20] Thank goodness kpub was on top of it and got everything fixed.

[1:14:24] But sewer.

[1:14:26] That's what's taking so long.

[1:14:27] Second thing is I'm going to quote council member McKinney.

[1:14:31] We don't have the money, but we're doing it.

[1:14:35] So please, just bear with us, bear with your staff,

[1:14:41] and just know that we're trying everything that we can.

[1:14:45] And I don't mean not to look on this side of the road

[1:14:47] either, but.

[1:14:49] But from Michael and Kim and Dalton

[1:14:51] all the way down from everybody upstairs.

[1:14:54] Thank y'all.

[1:14:55] Because it's not an easy task.

[1:14:57] It's not an easy thing to do.

[1:14:59] And then when you're out there trying to do your absolute best

[1:15:01] and help the citizens and you have people making comments,

[1:15:04] it's just right.

[1:15:05] Thank you.

[1:15:06] You're welcome.

[1:15:07] And I'll just make a quick point on that

[1:15:09] is yes, our initial operations were to tend

[1:15:13] to critical infrastructure.

[1:15:16] Across the board in public works.

[1:15:18] I mean we're hit pretty hard.

[1:15:20] So folks are always going to start putting debris out.

[1:15:23] Initially last year the state was

[1:15:26] handling this debris cleanup.

[1:15:28] And they jumped on it right away through their process.

[1:15:31] Even back then, we still had our system in place

[1:15:35] where we told the state we have our addresses ready last year.

[1:15:38] So this year, it's on us.

[1:15:41] We had looked at either a third party or if we can do it either

[1:15:44] way, you have to do things the right way so you

[1:15:46] can seek proper reimbursement.

[1:15:48] So now we're able to pivot towards that.

[1:15:51] And you don't want to initially have a debris cleanup

[1:15:54] right away because you're going to run in circles all day long.

[1:15:58] So I think now it's a systematic approach.

[1:16:00] We're sweeping the city and folks are understanding

[1:16:03] that we've talked to several people that are

[1:16:06] they're very thankful for us.

[1:16:07] They understand we've been busy doing other stuff.

[1:16:10] And so yeah, they're cooperating and they're

[1:16:13] understanding real quick.

[1:16:16] I know I mentioned Stephanie and Angela,

[1:16:18] but also Brandon Kelly, Isaac Rodriguez and Joel miners

[1:16:21] with street.

[1:16:21] So they've been just want to recognize them as well

[1:16:23] for their efforts and being able to pivot

[1:16:25] from all the other street stuff we've been doing.

[1:16:27] This is mainly a solid waste task.

[1:16:31] But we don't have a true solid waste division.

[1:16:34] But these guys from streets have been able to pivot, into that.

[1:16:37] So outside of this we're still tending to regular operations

[1:16:41] that we have to.

[1:16:41] So I just wanted to recognize them as well.

[1:16:44] I guess one last thing.

[1:16:46] I'm sorry.

[1:16:49] Vouchers I know what they are.

[1:16:51] We know what they're for.

[1:16:53] But there's been a lot of comments.

[1:16:54] And it's not the city of Kerrville

[1:16:57] that runs the landfill.

[1:17:00] That's where public waste services.

[1:17:02] And if they say you can't bring drywall in on the vouchers,

[1:17:07] we've got to respect what their rules are.

[1:17:11] But is there any talk of leniency on that from Republic

[1:17:17] for people that have vouchers or have debris that

[1:17:21] needs because it happened again I mean, the mayor, we

[1:17:25] all kind of walked around and saw neighborhoods that had three

[1:17:29] foot of drywall that had to be cut out of the house with,

[1:17:32] wet insulation.

[1:17:34] And they don't take contracting debris on the vouchers,

[1:17:38] is there.

[1:17:39] So that is per our contract.

[1:17:42] And that's something that we'll be looking at, I guess,

[1:17:44] when we do an after action review.

[1:17:47] But Republic has been very helpful in other aspects.

[1:17:52] The voucher system, Republic's not set up to have that in place

[1:17:55] during a disaster recovery.

[1:17:58] It will eat into their numbers right.

[1:18:01] The bottom line.

[1:18:03] This voucher system is meant for just regular, stuff

[1:18:09] that you can bring from the house.

[1:18:11] There's other reasons why they don't allow construction debris.

[1:18:14] Initially people abuse it.

[1:18:16] There's been contractors that have been doing commercial work,

[1:18:19] and they use a voucher from their home,

[1:18:22] and they charge a customer to dispose it,

[1:18:25] and then they come and get their voucher

[1:18:27] and they take construction debris

[1:18:28] and they don't pay for it.

[1:18:29] So there's a lot of those instances that happen.

[1:18:33] And I'm not saying just here just in general from there,

[1:18:35] there are corporate companies.

[1:18:36] So they have their rules to stand by.

[1:18:39] But I was able to work with Republic on some of the piles

[1:18:43] that go out there and say, OK, look,

[1:18:44] they have construction debris.

[1:18:46] They also have household items.

[1:18:48] Can I use their voucher.

[1:18:49] Leave the construction debris.

[1:18:51] I'll take the other items.

[1:18:52] That's the initial phase that I talked about earlier.

[1:18:55] And they work with me on that.

[1:18:56] Say, yes, I'll let your guys because I'm setting my eyes on I

[1:18:59] said, I'm verifying I took pictures, I have documentation,

[1:19:02] I have all the work orders.

[1:19:04] Those were the initial, I think, 18 sites that we picked up.

[1:19:08] I was able to utilize that.

[1:19:09] So Republic they have been helping out

[1:19:11] and then the remaining stuff is what we're picking up now

[1:19:14] as part of our curbside program.

[1:19:17] Thank you so much.

[1:19:18] Yes, sir.

[1:19:19] You're welcome.

[1:19:20] Any other questions.

[1:19:20] I want to echo.

[1:19:21] Thank you.

[1:19:23] All of you.

[1:19:23] Thank you for all you've done, we'll

[1:19:26] get to Julie in just a SEC.

[1:19:27] But one thing that hasn't been mentioned today that should be

[1:19:32] is the crews that cleared the way for the cemetery

[1:19:36] on town Creek Road.

[1:19:39] I know of two families that had to wait

[1:19:42] to bury their loved ones because there was

[1:19:44] no access to those cemeteries.

[1:19:46] So thank you for helping those families get closure.

[1:19:49] It meant a lot to them and they are really grateful.

[1:19:52] So thank you very much.

[1:19:54] Yeah and for I'll get you and for the picking up the stuff

[1:20:03] and having a plan.

[1:20:05] Not waiting for outside help.

[1:20:08] Thank you for doing that too.

[1:20:09] I really appreciate it.

[1:20:11] Yes, ma'am.

[1:20:12] OK sorry I wasn't pushing you, Brandon.

[1:20:14] I remember you met me at 5:30 last

[1:20:17] year in the morning to block a street

[1:20:19] for the Water Street festival.

[1:20:20] So that's the first time I met you.

[1:20:22] And I remember thinking you were jolly at 5:30.

[1:20:25] I was just very thankful for your help.

[1:20:29] And of course, I need you again this year.

[1:20:30] But thank you for what you're doing above and beyond your Call

[1:20:33] of Duty.

[1:20:35] The question I had was some of the folks I met

[1:20:39] might not still be back in their home.

[1:20:41] And if you were to go to their address, you wouldn't find them.

[1:20:44] So if they don't have access to a computer

[1:20:47] or what should I tell people.

[1:20:49] Should they go to her together for debris

[1:20:51] for to be put on the map or just for an understanding of what

[1:20:56] they will get to put out.

[1:20:57] And I know what it is, but how can they find that.

[1:21:01] So Kelly and I had that conversation earlier,

[1:21:04] and I think we want to continue that as a

[1:21:07] go to communication route.

[1:21:08] But folks can call our office here 830257 8,000.

[1:21:14] And then just ask to speak to somebody in public works

[1:21:17] and 9 times out of 10 10 times out of 10.

[1:21:20] Stephanie will take that call, and then

[1:21:22] she'll be able to direct them or even

[1:21:24] take create a new work order.

[1:21:26] And so yeah, we'll handle it that way.

[1:21:28] Yeah Kelly or through us.

[1:21:30] So either way is fine.

[1:21:31] Thank you very much.

[1:21:32] You're welcome.

[1:21:33] Thank you.

[1:21:35] All right.

[1:21:35] Thank you.

[1:21:36] Julie, are you up.

[1:21:38] I have nothing.

[1:21:39] Unless you have questions, you're listed on the agenda.

[1:21:42] Wow I didn't know you could do that.

[1:21:44] That's great.

[1:21:45] I'm saving my voice.

[1:21:46] All right.

[1:21:49] All right.

[1:21:49] If there's no further questions or comments,

[1:21:54] there's no need to go to executive session.

[1:21:56] I'm going to go ahead and close the workshop at 521.

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