[0:07] just before you start can you maximize

[0:09] that window

[0:15] yeah okay perfect

[0:18] thanks maurice

[0:21] all right uh good evening folks welcome

[0:24] to the special meeting of cambridge

[0:26] kimberly city council for march 21st

[0:29] the first full day of spring the sun

[0:32] sean

[0:33] and uh kyle is in search of the dream

[0:37] we're well we'd like to help you out any

[0:39] way we can

[0:44] a reminder to staff that are on uh

[0:48] that are dialing in on webex if when you

[0:50] are speaking please make sure and turn

[0:52] your video on

[0:54] um any further

[0:57] instructions maurice we set the rock

[1:07] are you at a campground somewhere troy

[1:10] at the hockey game

[1:14] i thought i thought we fixed bandwidth

[1:16] at the arena

[1:18] okay thanks for the heads up on that

[1:20] okay without further ado i would like to

[1:23] call this meeting to order here on the

[1:24] homelands of the tahoe peoples and ask

[1:26] maurice if we have any late items

[1:29] there is no late item mr mayor

[1:32] all right hearing none could i have a

[1:33] mover to adopt the agenda councilor

[1:36] mcbain moves and counselor kiddo seconds

[1:39] all those in favor

[1:41] that motion is carried

[1:45] and we have basically one item at this

[1:48] special meeting tonight and that is the

[1:50] final operating and capital budget

[1:52] changes for the 2022 to 2026 five-year

[1:56] financial plan

[1:58] we have been deliberating for what seems

[2:00] like well it has been many months

[2:03] and we're getting down to the short

[2:04] strokes

[2:05] i know council has read through the

[2:07] package it's pretty

[2:09] thick uh and it's pretty detailed uh

[2:12] thanks jim for

[2:14] uh kind of getting all of this

[2:16] information in a way that we can easily

[2:18] understand and know what our decisions

[2:20] need to be here tonight

[2:23] if it's okay with you maurice the

[2:26] resolutions that we have here tonight of

[2:28] which we have about uh five or six i

[2:32] noticed in the presentation jim you have

[2:33] included the resolution for the section

[2:35] as we finished so we'll just deal with

[2:37] those as we roll through the

[2:39] presentation that sounds good mr mayor

[2:41] that the first one receiving for

[2:42] information if we could get that out of

[2:44] the way that'd be great and then the

[2:45] rest are in there yeah okay so the uh

[2:50] so receipt of the uh of the report

[2:52] counselor dallas moves counselor mcbain

[2:54] seconds all those in favor

[2:57] that motion is carried

[3:01] all right uh over to you jim uh so

[3:04] before i do that uh scott uh thanks for

[3:06] attending tonight

[3:08] i think for those of you who've seen

[3:09] scott's on a few days vacation

[3:12] he's dialing into us tonight from

[3:13] kelowna

[3:14] uh hope everything is going well with

[3:16] the mini holiday scott and thanks for

[3:18] tuning in

[3:21] take it away jim

[3:23] thank you mr mayor

[3:24] and thanks it was good to hear that uh

[3:27] you thought the package was easy to easy

[3:29] to read easy to follow apologize for the weight of it there is a lot of

[3:34] information in here but uh

[3:36] it's time that we we get through this

[3:38] stuff and

[3:39] move on to preparation of the bylaws

[3:42] so starting with the the meeting agenda

[3:45] once we get the presentation up here

[3:47] i'll flip through the slides

[3:49] but uh what's on the agenda tonight is

[3:51] just uh there's a bunch of slides

[3:53] recapping where we've been how we got to

[3:55] this point

[3:56] discussion about financial plan

[3:58] foundation

[3:59] proposed changes to the operating base

[4:01] budget

[4:02] a discussion about the aquatic center

[4:04] parcel tax

[4:05] proposed sewer operating budget changes

[4:07] and then a discussion on the kaplan

[4:08] non-capital

[4:10] budget amounts

[4:11] and as council's aware the last number

[4:13] of pages of the presentation

[4:15] is um

[4:16] in appendix one is a complete listing of

[4:18] all the capital and non-capital projects

[4:20] that we we plan to complete over the

[4:22] next five years

[4:24] we're not going to go through those in

[4:25] detail but if there are any of those

[4:27] once we

[4:28] get to that point in the presentation or

[4:30] as we're moving through if council has

[4:31] questions about those please

[4:34] feel free to to ask

[4:39] doesn't look like it's letting me scroll

[4:41] maurice unless

[4:48] did you do that or did i do it

[4:52] okay

[4:55] so

[4:56] the next slide is is budget recap and

[4:59] i'm not going to go through this it's

[5:00] really just provided for ease of

[5:02] reference for council i'm just showing

[5:04] the resolutions related to budget that

[5:05] have been passed to this point

[5:07] so unless there are any questions on

[5:09] that we're going to skip right to page

[5:10] 13

[5:11] in the next section

[5:15] and the first slide in that

[5:18] section is the the bright blue one

[5:21] the neon colors deliberate

[5:23] this is a

[5:24] fairly

[5:25] relevant slide that was brought forward

[5:27] from the april 19 2021 budget

[5:29] presentation

[5:31] and really what it indicates is that

[5:33] just given the fact that

[5:37] the operating budget reductions in 2021

[5:39] related to kobit 19 and the late hiring

[5:42] of some new employees last year

[5:44] um just a bit of foreshadowing that in

[5:47] 2022

[5:49] to expect an increase that it's well in

[5:51] excess of mpi just to be able to pay for

[5:55] um getting back to normal and the

[5:56] balance of the salaries for those

[5:58] employees

[6:00] so the next page is a discussion the

[6:02] flat financial plan foundation

[6:05] and it's just saying that uh the council

[6:08] adopts a five-year financial plan every

[6:10] year um year two that

[6:12] plan forms the foundation for the new

[6:14] five-year financial plan and that's

[6:16] we're operating under year two the

[6:17] authority year two until the new

[6:19] five-year financial plan vial was

[6:20] adopted

[6:22] so year two of

[6:23] the 21 21 to 2025 financial plan

[6:27] we were anticipating an increase of 3.99

[6:29] percent

[6:30] and you can see the breakdown on that

[6:33] 1.9 was the mpi

[6:35] the inflationary factor

[6:37] uh there was 155 000 just about a 1.42

[6:41] percent increase to fund the the new

[6:42] positions in operations and planning

[6:44] there was three there

[6:46] and then there was 0.67 to move the

[6:48] arenas back to full operating from their

[6:51] reduced operating capacity under covid

[6:58] so the next slide just uh it's just a

[7:00] note saying that

[7:02] the base the base budget is modified on an annual basis for a variety of

[7:07] reasons that i've listed there

[7:10] so the first section we're going to talk

[7:11] about with regards to modifications that

[7:13] the budget is to the

[7:14] operating budget jim

[7:17] mr mayor can we ask questions as we go

[7:20] yeah please what's up

[7:21] so just on the uh the financial plan

[7:24] foundation uh the 0.6 the 73 000 to move

[7:28] the arena budgets back to full operation

[7:30] is there an offsetting revenue uh

[7:32] associated with that

[7:35] there is this this is the expenditure

[7:37] component so that this is the net

[7:38] component there were some actual

[7:41] um wage savings as a result of the

[7:44] closure extended closures of those

[7:46] facilities okay cool this is the net

[7:48] number yeah the 73k okay awesome thank

[7:51] you

[7:53] yeah i'm pleased if there's any anywhere

[7:55] you'd like me to stop just uh speak up

[8:00] so the first page of the

[8:02] proposed general operating base budget

[8:04] adjustments adjustments a couple pages

[8:06] up there

[8:09] council's

[8:10] seen most of this stuff

[8:12] at the december 6 budget meeting we went

[8:14] through

[8:15] all of the changes that are indicated as a recap of adjustments presented on

[8:19] december 6th we

[8:23] staff did not ask council for any

[8:26] decisions on the operating budget at

[8:27] that point in time because we had a

[8:29] couple of big unknowns out there

[8:31] those being the rcmp contract

[8:34] the renewal of that and the non-market

[8:37] change at that time we just had numbers

[8:40] from the preview role so we now have the

[8:42] completed assessment also those numbers

[8:43] have have changed as you've

[8:45] probably seen in the agreement here

[8:48] so i'm going to start on the the next

[8:50] page there where it notes in red new

[8:52] adjustments identified since december

[8:54] 6th those are the ones that council

[8:56] hasn't seen

[8:57] unless there are any

[8:58] questions about the the ones on december

[9:00] 6th

[9:02] actually the one thing i will point out

[9:04] on those is

[9:06] the increase increased half-time edge

[9:08] assistant position to full-time uh the

[9:10] 42-816 that's three lines down on the

[9:13] top of that slide

[9:14] we're obviously not going to hire that

[9:16] person to start as of january 1st

[9:19] the first realistic start date we

[9:20] anticipate is may 1st so

[9:23] that budget has been reduced as you'll

[9:24] see a couple of slides up there's a

[9:26] negative that brings that down to

[9:29] 14 272

[9:32] dollars is an incremental expenditure in

[9:34] 2022

[9:37] so on to the new items since january 2013

[9:42] december 6

[9:43] 2021

[9:44] the first two there are just in and out

[9:48] the fire department has been successful

[9:50] in obtaining uh a bunch of grant funding

[9:52] over the last number of years for some

[9:54] forest management projects

[9:56] to help um

[9:58] protect against wildfire in kimberley

[10:00] so these are the projects that we've

[10:02] received grants for that didn't get

[10:03] completed by the end of 2021

[10:06] um as council is aware it really depends

[10:09] on the weather from year to year hot dry

[10:11] summers they they can't burn they can't do that kind

[10:15] of work so it gets carried over to the

[10:17] next year so that's just the

[10:19] expenditures the funding by grants

[10:22] the next two

[10:23] came about as a result of

[10:26] the first first time rcmp collective

[10:29] agreement being

[10:30] entered into in august of last year

[10:33] and i'm going to stop at a slide i've

[10:34] got a little ways down here to talk

[10:36] about the details but

[10:38] associated with that as we've been

[10:39] talking about for a couple years there

[10:41] was a one-time retro payment

[10:44] to the members

[10:45] for the kimberley detachment

[10:48] they haven't provided the final number

[10:49] for that yet there's a couple of letters

[10:51] attached at the end of this report

[10:53] they're indicating that this this is the

[10:55] top end of their

[10:57] the estimate that they've provided for

[10:59] planning purposes

[11:00] is what they've said in the letter so

[11:03] 227 000 is the estimate of what we're

[11:06] going to have to pay to the rcmp for

[11:08] retro pay

[11:09] and anticipating that this was going to

[11:11] happen councils

[11:12] put money in a reserve over the last

[11:14] number of years and the

[11:16] balance of that i think it's it's in the

[11:18] presentation i think it's 441 000 or

[11:20] something like that

[11:22] so there's a retro pay and then there's

[11:24] also an rcmp contract cost increase so

[11:27] on the recommendation of the rcmp since

[11:29] 2016 which was the last time they had a

[11:32] pay adjustment

[11:34] we've been adding two and a half percent

[11:35] a year

[11:36] so

[11:37] this edition of the 55 891

[11:40] is

[11:41] the difference between that that two and

[11:43] a half percent a year and what we're

[11:45] actually having to pay them in 2022

[11:47] under the new collective agreement

[11:49] and what i'm proposing and i'll talk

[11:51] more about this later as well is that

[11:53] because we're going to have a

[11:55] fairly healthy balance over two hundred

[11:56] thousand dollars left in that reserve

[11:58] after the retro pay i'm proposing just given

[12:02] um

[12:03] the challenges we're having this year

[12:05] with with the tax increase that we fund

[12:07] that

[12:08] out of the

[12:09] reserve as well just for 2022

[12:12] which would essentially defer a half

[12:14] percent tax increase from this year to

[12:16] next

[12:17] and i i think that's reasonable given

[12:18] the fact that that that reserve is

[12:20] specific to our cmp

[12:22] and it was built through

[12:24] uh savings from that service over the

[12:26] last five years so

[12:28] and again i'll talk about that more a

[12:29] little bit later

[12:33] um i'm not going to go through each of

[12:35] these in detail but again if you have any questions

[12:40] most of the rest of these are fairly minor amounts

[12:45] the larger ones i do have slides

[12:48] later on just explaining justifying the

[12:50] changes but the total proposed

[12:53] adjustments as you'll see there

[12:55] are 394 893

[12:59] and a few slides up here you'll see that

[13:02] the expenditures that are funded from

[13:03] reserves bring that down to a fairly low

[13:06] number

[13:07] which is the amount that's being funded

[13:08] from

[13:09] general revenues

[13:12] okay

[13:13] so just to clarify the last line on this

[13:15] particular slide

[13:17] is what you were speaking about earlier

[13:19] with the later start for the engineer is

[13:21] that correct brings it down to the 14

[13:23] 000

[13:25] yeah that's right the 28 544

[13:27] extracted from that uh 42 000 there yeah so that's essentially bringing the

[13:34] budget for that from a full year down to

[13:36] eight months just given the fact that

[13:37] we're part way through the year here

[13:38] already

[13:42] so again the first um

[13:44] the first few slides uh following this

[13:47] one

[13:48] there's an explanation of the chemical

[13:50] gardens

[13:52] change there that's an in and out

[13:55] but essentially what that is is

[13:57] we were start historically we've been

[13:59] paying kces to to manage the gardens

[14:02] and with the announcement that they're

[14:04] winding down that society

[14:05] um we're just gonna we're gonna remove

[14:07] that payment from the budget but then

[14:09] we're gonna add it back in under parks

[14:10] and facilities as an expenditure to

[14:13] um hire somebody

[14:16] for the city to hire somebody to look

[14:17] after that

[14:18] and the operations department is working

[14:20] on a staff report as they indicated

[14:22] previously to to bring back back to

[14:24] council to have a larger discussion

[14:26] about the longer term with that facility

[14:36] see

[14:38] with that um

[14:40] with that new

[14:42] park expert i like you know we will

[14:44] probably have a better answer when the

[14:45] assessment comes out but

[14:47] um

[14:48] would this person

[14:50] be um

[14:52] basically just bound to kaminko guard

[14:54] would they just be

[14:55] spread around everywhere could they be

[14:57] used anywhere or was it just like a

[14:58] kaminko gardens caretaker

[15:01] i think the idea right now i i shouldn't

[15:04] speak on nicole's behalf here but uh

[15:07] i believe we're anticipating that that 76 000 will be to to look after

[15:11] chemical gardens

[15:12] at least until we get a feel for the

[15:14] operation of that

[15:15] but longer term uh that i think that

[15:17] would certainly be an option to have

[15:19] you know have an arborist or somebody on

[15:21] staff

[15:22] or a contractor to look after that

[15:25] yeah i think um i saw somewhere in here

[15:27] where we're going out to rfp

[15:30] looking for somebody to do that so it

[15:31] would be an independent contractor

[15:33] that's right yeah

[15:34] go ahead nigel

[15:35] i'm really disappointed that we're even

[15:37] talking about the options around coming

[15:38] kaminko garden when we yet to see a

[15:40] staff report

[15:41] and i thought we were part of the

[15:42] decision-making process i was even more

[15:44] disappointed to be reading about it in

[15:46] the media today without a staff report

[15:48] now being able to weigh in as a council

[15:50] so

[15:51] don't like the way it's playing out

[15:53] quite frankly

[15:54] um i would have liked us to be

[15:56] discussing it before i hit the media

[15:59] can you expand on that nigel

[16:02] yeah just the the comments about

[16:05] rfps and potentially people running and

[16:07] stuff i don't know any of those answers

[16:09] but it's been discussed in the media

[16:10] it's already hitting facebook and the

[16:12] bulletin's written an article about it

[16:13] so

[16:15] yeah

[16:16] i'm just uh i just think that was a

[16:17] little bit um

[16:19] premature uh or the staff report was

[16:21] late i just think don't just just don't

[16:23] enjoy the way this is playing out i

[16:24] don't feel like as a council we really

[16:27] are a part of it this seems to be

[16:28] happening um behind the scenes that's

[16:30] how it appears to me anyway

[16:36] yeah

[16:37] there was a previous staff report um

[16:40] when there was discussions about kcds

[16:41] winding down indicating that this would

[16:43] be the

[16:44] path forward for this year anyways until

[16:46] there was a a bigger discussion on long

[16:48] term

[16:49] yeah yeah i i thought so too that early

[16:52] on we said that the support that we had

[16:53] provided uh would be there this year

[16:57] because we weren't anticipating that uh that staff report was going to

[17:00] be in in time

[17:02] you know for that

[17:03] so i think i think really

[17:05] the question that we got from the media

[17:07] was is kameko gardens going to be open

[17:09] this year

[17:10] and um

[17:11] the answer was yes it is

[17:14] what the long-term solution is or the

[17:16] long-term future is for kamekal gardens

[17:19] given what's underway we'll see but uh

[17:22] you know for sure this year you know it

[17:24] will be open

[17:26] i don't think there was any intent to uh

[17:30] i thought i thought we'd had that

[17:31] conversation actually around the table

[17:32] here uh much earlier on

[17:35] back as part of the kcds discussion

[17:38] can't

[17:39] yeah i i see this as just maintaining

[17:42] the status quo for one more year in the

[17:44] staff report we'll be talking about ways

[17:47] to change the status quo maybe or maybe

[17:50] not

[17:50] but i think that's going to be a

[17:52] conversation the communities want to

[17:53] going to want to be a part of and so

[17:55] we're going to have to

[17:57] think about how we get feedback from the

[17:59] community as we move forward and look at

[18:01] different options so yeah absolutely

[18:05] and go ahead and that would be more of

[18:06] my point that it is starting to be

[18:08] played out in the media there's a lot of

[18:09] misinformation happening on facebook a

[18:11] lot of concern that's been raised

[18:14] i just would have liked to have had more

[18:15] information so i could respond to the

[18:16] community and some of those concerns

[18:18] that's all i'm saying here it's just i

[18:20] would like to see a report i would like

[18:22] more conversation before i hit the media

[18:24] there's just too many unknowns out there

[18:26] at the moment

[18:29] further comments

[18:34] okay

[18:35] appreciate the comments

[18:36] uh counselor keto chris memory is on the

[18:38] line here and he's he's hearing that as

[18:40] well so

[18:42] these next few slides here i'm just

[18:44] going to

[18:45] flip through and if you if you want to

[18:46] have some additional discussion on them

[18:48] please let me know

[18:50] you've seen these before at the december

[18:52] 6 meeting as well

[18:53] the next few anyways

[18:55] so the next one is the engineering

[18:57] assistant gis tech so we're proposing to

[18:59] move that from a current half time

[19:02] position into a full-time position

[19:03] that's shared between planning and

[19:04] operations

[19:06] the slide

[19:07] following that is with regard to

[19:09] retirement sick leave payouts

[19:11] and this is just uh it's a liability

[19:14] that the city is obligated to pay

[19:16] until

[19:18] these grandfather benefits are gone

[19:20] essentially

[19:22] they're funded from the general

[19:23] operating surplus just given their

[19:24] nature so they they don't have an impact

[19:26] on the tax collection or the tax rates

[19:29] from year to year

[19:31] the next one is the cayenne commitment

[19:34] and that's just the last year of the current three-year

[19:38] commitment

[19:39] um moving their revenue and expenditures

[19:41] they're budgeted for 2022 into 2023

[19:44] their their year

[19:46] overlaps it runs from

[19:50] july to june or june to july so it's

[19:52] really just uh

[19:53] it's just a timing adjustment

[19:57] the next one 22

[19:59] 2022 election budget budget increase um

[20:02] 20 000 increase proposed there

[20:06] related to potential impacts of of cobit

[20:11] that's proposed to be funded from the

[20:12] kobe 19 safe start safe restart grant

[20:15] reserve so if it's not used it'll remain

[20:17] in that reserve to be used for something

[20:19] else

[20:21] these next few slides here

[20:23] parks irrigation maintenance

[20:26] platzel and parks tree maintenance

[20:30] they're fairly fairly straightforward i

[20:32] believe the next slide on the forest

[20:35] management program at zero net effect

[20:37] i've already talked a little bit about

[20:39] that

[20:40] the next one is the rcmp contract retro

[20:43] pay with 227 thousand dollars that we've

[20:46] talked about

[20:47] so again since since 2016 the rcmp

[20:51] member salaries have been frozen and on

[20:53] august 26 2021

[20:57] their first ever collective agreement

[20:58] was ratified

[21:00] and i'm not entirely sure why it took

[21:02] um so long for them to provide us with

[21:04] the information

[21:05] but uh on february 28 the mayor received

[21:09] an email with a letter attached advising

[21:11] of the

[21:12] estimated range of retroactive payments

[21:14] that you see there two hundred sixteen

[21:16] thousand two hundred and twenty seven

[21:17] thousand

[21:18] and as noted earlier there's a balance

[21:20] of four hundred and forty one thousand

[21:21] dollars

[21:23] in that uh rcmp contract reserve to to

[21:25] pay that from so

[21:27] there's fortunate planning there

[21:30] the next slide is related we've

[21:32] discussed this again this is the rcmp

[21:34] contract cost adjustment so the

[21:36] difference between what we budgeted and

[21:38] what the rcmp are saying in their

[21:40] march 4th letter to me which is also

[21:43] attached to the report here

[21:46] is 55 891 so that's the incremental

[21:48] revenue we need to pay for for that

[21:51] incremental cost

[21:53] just something worth noting here

[21:55] i as you'll note in the letter there

[21:57] they provide a cost for the for eight

[21:59] members uh 1.228 million dollars

[22:02] as council's aware we on an annual basis

[22:05] make a request to the rcmp to manage

[22:07] that detachment to to seven members as

[22:09] opposed to eight

[22:11] and they've been accommodating um

[22:13] i'm not sure when that started but since

[22:15] i've been around anyways we've been

[22:16] making that request

[22:18] and

[22:20] it's possible i suppose at some point in

[22:22] time they're going to say you know we

[22:24] need the full contingent here we need

[22:26] the full eight members

[22:28] and if and when that happens

[22:30] at this point in time anyways uh that

[22:32] it's about 152 000 per member

[22:35] so if they were to come back and ask for

[22:36] that we would be looking for that money

[22:38] which is you know it's percent percent

[22:41] and a half roughly tax increase

[22:44] that's a good one

[22:46] so jim if we use the reserves to fund

[22:49] the 0.5 increase this year will there be

[22:52] a double increase next year

[22:54] a 0.5 and a 0.5 or

[22:57] no

[22:58] we've

[22:59] i've noted on here they

[23:01] they're telling us that the 2023 to 2027

[23:06] estimates typically they provide us with

[23:08] a five-year budget

[23:09] we're not going to receive that until

[23:11] may so it won't be received in time to

[23:14] work that into the budget

[23:16] but from 2022 forward it will just be

[23:18] it'll be an incremental annual increase

[23:20] again

[23:21] so i i'm budgeting for 2.5

[23:24] going forward

[23:25] okay but we we budgeted for 2.5 for this

[23:29] year and it was 0.5

[23:31] too low

[23:33] which makes me think

[23:34] well the point five percent too low was

[23:36] to catch us up since 2016.

[23:40] so they hadn't received an increase

[23:41] since 2016 so that

[23:45] once once we're caught up to 2022 and

[23:47] then we're just back into the regular uh

[23:49] inflationary adjustments going forward

[23:52] okay thank you yeah

[23:54] i hope it's nice

[23:56] uh the next slide

[23:59] cayenne so jim just further

[24:01] clarification on that so

[24:03] uh this year we're going to fund that 55

[24:06] 000 out of the rcmp reserve but next

[24:10] pardon me next year we'll need to fund

[24:12] that out of taxes that's correct yeah yeah

[24:15] it's it's really just essentially a

[24:17] deferral um of that half percent

[24:19] increase from this year to next year

[24:21] in the hopes that we're not going to be

[24:22] facing the same challenges this year

[24:24] that we are

[24:29] so the next slide

[24:32] yeah happy to discuss it further if

[24:35] no i i just have a rather pessimistic

[24:38] outlook about each year going forward

[24:39] and whether we'll actually see anything

[24:42] relax but we'll see

[24:44] yeah

[24:45] time will tell

[24:48] so the next slide the program kai and

[24:50] extension extension

[24:51] um

[24:53] recently at the february 14th council

[24:55] meeting council extended that that

[24:57] initial three-year greet agreement with

[24:59] the kimberley youth action network

[25:01] by one year so this is just creating a

[25:04] budget for that

[25:05] it's uh sixty thousand dollars in

[25:07] revenue fifty four thousand five hundred

[25:09] in expenditures with which are split

[25:11] fifty fifty between this year next given

[25:13] the way that their fiscal year works

[25:16] uh the 5500 difference is the

[25:18] an administrative cost that's retained

[25:20] by the city for the the cost for our

[25:22] staff to look after that program

[25:25] do the paperwork et cetera

[25:29] so the next uh table here is where we

[25:31] get into the the numbers

[25:34] so the first green line there three three

[25:38] lines down on the first top of that

[25:40] table the 394 893 is what was brought

[25:42] forward from that previous slide

[25:45] the total of the changes to the

[25:46] operating costs

[25:47] the next section is

[25:49] the amount of those costs that are going

[25:51] to be covered from

[25:52] the various reserves

[25:54] so they're not affecting uh the increase

[25:57] to the property tax rate

[25:59] so the net of those two is 62

[26:02] 772 dollars which is the the net of the ask

[26:06] for this year

[26:08] which works out to a 0.58 tax increase

[26:12] on the next slide

[26:13] we've got um

[26:16] the 3.99 percent that we discussed

[26:18] earlier which is already built into year

[26:19] two of the current five-year financial

[26:21] plan

[26:22] so we're adding the 0.58 percent for the

[26:24] 62 772

[26:27] and then i'm also proposing to

[26:29] increase the inflationary factor that we

[26:31] had budgeted previous previously of 1.9

[26:33] percent to 2.84

[26:36] so that's an additional 0.94

[26:38] bringing the total increase um for 2022 to 5.51

[26:49] go ahead

[26:50] councilman um i appreciate you

[26:54] factoring that in jim um how confident

[26:56] are you that that is enough um given

[27:00] that uh

[27:01] you know i think everybody's feeling the effects right now and this all signs

[27:05] kind of point to

[27:06] um

[27:08] inflation going even higher so

[27:10] just curious yeah it's

[27:13] that's

[27:14] it it's a tough one to be confident

[27:15] about um at this point in time and

[27:17] municipalities seem to be all over the

[27:19] place i was able to find 18 municipalities

[27:22] that i could find online that had either

[27:25] communicated or approved their tax

[27:27] increases

[27:28] of those 18 10 of them were 5 or over

[27:32] the highest was eight and the lowest was

[27:35] 2.75

[27:37] um that eight was an outlier as was a

[27:39] 2.75 so

[27:41] i mean that most of what you hear about

[27:44] with inflation that the big um

[27:48] components of those the the mpi cpis

[27:52] that are are seeing a big hit these days

[27:53] are our fuel and and food

[27:56] and so

[27:57] when you back that food component out

[27:59] that the inflationary factor does drop

[28:02] so i'm hopeful that this is going to be

[28:06] enough i guess is what i'm saying but it

[28:07] really you know given

[28:09] we're still feeling the impacts of covid

[28:11] with the supply chains challenges chain

[28:13] challenges

[28:14] the war in ukraine the cp strike i mean

[28:17] it's

[28:19] we don't know when it's going to end or

[28:20] how how long he's

[28:22] going to continue for but

[28:24] yeah i feel you have your

[28:26] finger on the pulse jim it was just uh

[28:28] yeah just question thanks good question

[28:30] and i was i was expecting it because

[28:31] it's uh

[28:33] it's a tough one to put your thumb on

[28:35] this year

[28:37] so

[28:38] pardon me if i may jim

[28:40] um

[28:41] i guess

[28:42] in inflation to a lot of people is

[28:46] i mean costs are going up but the term

[28:48] inflation is

[28:50] fuzzy uh the fact is that if we have uh

[28:53] in the past years if we had not taken

[28:55] the two percent inflationary increase

[28:58] that cumulatively over the years would

[29:00] have meant that we would would have had

[29:01] to take a reduction in service somewhere

[29:04] in the services that we provide

[29:06] uh inflation has to be paid for somehow

[29:09] so it's either through taxes to keep

[29:11] service levels where they are or we have

[29:13] to look at reducing the service levels

[29:15] and it's a really really difficult

[29:18] challenge because nobody wants to see

[29:20] service reductions

[29:23] but at the end of the day we either do

[29:25] that or you have to pay for them and i

[29:27] think what we're seeing here in this in

[29:29] this particular budget is

[29:31] um you know a pretty good case scenario

[29:33] when we see what's going on around us

[29:36] um you know something it's not a

[29:38] reduction in services um but it's also

[29:42] you know a manageable increase that i

[29:44] think most people would understand

[29:46] at least i hope they do we'll find out i

[29:48] hope so as well mr mayor and the real

[29:50] saving grace for us with regards to

[29:52] inflationary factor is the fact that

[29:54] we're we're still working under

[29:56] the wages that were negotiated in the

[29:58] last round of collective bargaining so

[30:01] we're we work with the weighted average

[30:03] um when we're calculating that

[30:05] inflationary adjustment so

[30:06] 2.84 it includes an increase of 2.18

[30:09] percent for the wages which is

[30:11] i think it's around 50 or 60 percent as

[30:14] far as the the weighted portion of that part of the the index so

[30:19] if if our wages were tied to a cpi like

[30:22] a lotter r these days

[30:25] we'd be talking a different number right

[30:27] now but

[30:28] that is helping us a lot

[30:33] so the last section of that slide there

[30:36] there's a small adjustment uh sixty six

[30:39] thousand one hundred one dollar

[30:41] reduction and that's a preliminary

[30:42] number

[30:43] uh related to non-market change and i'll

[30:45] talk more about that in the coming

[30:46] slides here

[30:48] so reduction of point 0.06

[30:50] to 5.45 so that's the proposed

[30:54] increase to the the variable tax

[30:56] collection or to the overall property

[30:58] tax collection for 2022

[31:04] these next few slides here uh speak to

[31:06] this

[31:08] just some more discussion about the

[31:09] annual inflationary adjustment

[31:12] so

[31:13] the mpi that we have been using since

[31:15] 2016

[31:17] it's based on a weighted average of

[31:18] various expenditure categories within

[31:20] the city's budget using

[31:22] a bunch of conference board of canada

[31:24] indices

[31:25] and i've noted some of those

[31:27] below for

[31:28] what those indices are saying the

[31:30] increase was from fourth quarter 2020 to

[31:33] the end of 2021

[31:35] so 11.23 for vehicles and equipment fuel

[31:38] and oil 65.46

[31:40] materials goods and services 11.23

[31:42] natural gas 25.19

[31:46] so if if we were to use

[31:48] those indices i mean they just

[31:50] they don't seem to reflect what we've

[31:52] experienced over the last year we've

[31:54] seen increases for sure

[31:56] but

[31:57] if we were to use those indices

[32:00] we'd be looking at tax increase of over

[32:02] eight percent to calculate the the

[32:04] annual

[32:05] inflationary factor so

[32:07] what i've done is in place of

[32:09] some of the indices or the amounts

[32:10] prescribed by some of the indices i've

[32:12] used the

[32:13] increase to the canada's cpi over the

[32:16] last year which was 4.8 percent

[32:19] i've used 20 percent for fuel and oil

[32:22] and then for the wages as discussed it's

[32:24] at 2.18

[32:26] so that's where that 2.84 got pushed out

[32:28] from

[32:30] so we are we are varying from

[32:33] the typical mpi calculation this year we

[32:36] do every year to a certain extent i

[32:39] mean we've got negotiated wage increases

[32:42] we'll use that as opposed to the indices

[32:44] if we've got uh

[32:46] the rates from tariffs and gas or bc

[32:48] hydro as far as what they're increasing

[32:49] by we'll use those rather than the in

[32:51] the c number

[32:53] so i just wanted council to be aware of

[32:56] the fact that we've we varied from that

[32:59] and that's where how that 2.84 was

[33:02] arrived at

[33:03] so it is

[33:04] it's not the 1.9 that we included in the

[33:06] budget last year you know we're

[33:08] increasing it by almost a percent um to

[33:10] get that into sea up

[33:12] a bit but

[33:13] the goal was to implement a reasonable

[33:15] tax increase while wall respect while

[33:18] still respecting the uh

[33:20] the inflationary climate that we're in

[33:22] right now

[33:29] sorry joe go ahead

[33:31] thanks jim i appreciate the update

[33:34] one of the things that as you've been

[33:37] briefing us on this that i've been

[33:38] wondering about is um

[33:41] use of reserve money if uh

[33:43] if we do not uh if we are not successful

[33:46] in some of our

[33:48] grant applications for various things

[33:50] one of them would be for example

[33:52] wastewater treatment plant

[33:54] and

[33:55] the city

[33:56] decides to

[33:57] not pursue

[33:59] that avenue for their foreseeable future

[34:02] or other avenues

[34:04] is there a chance you know given the

[34:05] climate of inflation to use reserve

[34:08] funds for as an emergency to help

[34:12] make this more palatable for folks in

[34:14] kimberley the tax increase yeah

[34:17] um

[34:19] i i always

[34:20] kind of compare that it's that's kind of

[34:22] like using your your kids education fund

[34:24] to pay the mortgage payments i mean it's

[34:27] you're you're

[34:29] delaying the inevitable like sooner or

[34:30] later

[34:32] i mean you can use a hundred thousand dollars

[34:35] say to get the tax increase down to um

[34:39] a lower amount

[34:41] but then you're you're having to make

[34:43] that back in the next year i mean unless

[34:45] you keep taking that hundred thousand

[34:46] dollars out again and again and again to

[34:48] the point where

[34:50] you know you're getting close to

[34:51] depleting your reserves

[34:53] then

[34:53] when your reserves are depleted then you

[34:55] have to come up with that money so that

[34:57] the ongoing annual expenditures

[35:00] best practices to fund that from ongoing

[35:02] annual revenues as opposed to a pot of

[35:05] money in a reserve

[35:08] so in in fact jim we're suffering a

[35:10] little bit from that this year uh the

[35:12] next slide which shows the

[35:15] increases over the last three years

[35:17] the two point two two zero percent in

[35:19] 2020 and 1.6 uh in 2021

[35:23] those last two years of no increases

[35:26] we've lost three percent to inflation

[35:29] and had we taken our normal two percent

[35:31] over those two years

[35:33] we instead of 5.5 we'd be looking at a

[35:36] um

[35:39] a 2.5 percent increase this year

[35:42] so to speak to your point you know we did what we thought under

[35:47] the circumstances at the beginning of

[35:48] covet was a good thing but we have to

[35:51] eventually pay the piper for that and

[35:53] this year is that year where we are

[35:55] doing that

[35:59] yeah that's a good point mr mayor on on

[36:02] the next slide there you'll see that

[36:04] as noted um so the last three years

[36:06] we've had an average increase of one

[36:08] point two seven percent while the pcc

[36:10] cpi over that same period is

[36:12] has grown by seven percent so

[36:14] if we work that 5.45 into that as a

[36:18] fourth year uh the four-year average

[36:20] would be 2.31 which is

[36:22] you know we're not far off from from

[36:24] inflation there

[36:31] so the

[36:36] see here

[36:38] so the next slide here is options to

[36:40] reduce

[36:41] the tax increase and

[36:43] i'm hoping just given the discussion

[36:44] that council is uh

[36:47] gain some comfort with that number

[36:49] but if we want to reduce that um as the

[36:52] mayor spoke to a bit here we could uh

[36:54] we could lower service levels elsewhere

[36:56] in the general operating budget

[36:58] uh we could defer reduce or eliminate

[37:00] one or more of the proposed changes

[37:02] um in total we're proposing you know

[37:04] just over 60 thousand dollars in changes

[37:06] so that would give us a little over half

[37:08] a percent

[37:10] we could increase increase general

[37:11] operating budget revenue other than tax

[37:14] revenue user fees permit license fees

[37:16] or we could reduce contributions to the

[37:18] general capital reserves as we've talked

[37:20] about a little bit

[37:22] one thing we have to remember we

[37:24] 2022 we collected about 14 million dollars in uh

[37:29] revenue in about

[37:32] 10 and a half that almost 11 million

[37:34] dollars was through property tax the

[37:35] rest of that was through

[37:37] um user fees a small community grant

[37:40] business licenses that type of thing

[37:43] and

[37:44] we're not going to be getting that 5.45

[37:46] percent on those we've got 2 built in

[37:48] for the water and sewer user fees

[37:50] there's also two percent built in there

[37:52] for recreation fee increases but

[37:55] some of that stuff small community grant

[37:57] is an example we there there is no

[37:58] inflationary factor built into that so

[38:05] yeah it's just weighing in um

[38:09] just a pining on on these options um

[38:12] yeah i would really hesitate um reducing the contribution to our our

[38:18] capital reserve i i just look at

[38:20] you know we have done

[38:23] i believe council over the last little

[38:25] while has done a lot um to to get caught

[38:28] up um on infrastructure projects and and

[38:31] various things and we know we have some

[38:33] huge ticket items as well um coming up

[38:36] and uh and i and i really

[38:39] i don't want to slow that momentum down

[38:41] and and if we recall i think you know

[38:43] some of you who've been on council a lot

[38:45] longer than i have um

[38:47] you know a lot of the stuff that we're

[38:48] dealing with

[38:50] is because the can got kicked down the

[38:51] road for a long time

[38:53] and we're trying to to fix that so i

[38:56] would really caution us trying to

[38:58] make a move like that um where we where

[39:01] we uh

[39:02] decrease those uh contributions because

[39:04] i think we still have a long ways to go

[39:10] officer oakley

[39:12] yes i i do uh have a i would like to

[39:14] comment on the user fees i i i have

[39:17] never um

[39:20] uh

[39:21] you know

[39:22] liked the um

[39:26] some of the recreational facilities that

[39:28] we have in our community not charging a

[39:31] higher level

[39:32] user fees i just personally feel user

[39:34] fees there's room to move there to help

[39:36] out

[39:37] and

[39:39] that that's always a tough one because

[39:42] people are paying out of pocket and you

[39:44] know they're paying tax increases it's

[39:45] just one thing after another but it is

[39:48] um

[39:49] it is it seems to me uh to be fair to

[39:53] some taxpayers and kimberley that don't

[39:55] use the facilities

[39:57] that don't have to pay the user fee and

[39:58] that there would be a higher user fee

[40:00] for the folks that are using them

[40:01] the other thing that i wanted to comment

[40:03] on

[40:04] was

[40:05] the regional district

[40:07] possibly

[40:08] you know having a little bit of a larger

[40:11] role and uh some of our facilities

[40:13] possibly as they do in other communities

[40:16] so to help out and uh

[40:18] because people who come in from the

[40:19] region to use our facilities

[40:22] and

[40:23] are not paying a local municipal tax

[40:26] so a user fee to me is something i i

[40:28] would i would love to look at that um i

[40:31] think that's fair

[40:33] and

[40:34] it's needed now it's uh to look at that

[40:37] heart and to see if that can help out

[40:39] make a difference

[40:41] thank you

[40:42] thanks daryl um

[40:44] counselor dallas go ahead

[40:46] uh i would caution against uh

[40:49] going too hard with the user fees simply

[40:51] because

[40:53] with the increased cost of living

[40:55] particularly that increase to fuel

[40:58] um

[40:59] you know that could disproportionately

[41:02] take the the lower income folks and

[41:04] really price them out of

[41:06] those facilities

[41:08] uh

[41:09] my main thing that i'd like to say is

[41:10] thank you jim and the rest of staff that

[41:13] have helped you with this because

[41:15] uh you know

[41:17] you've carried the ball you haven't you

[41:19] know in the last couple years we've

[41:22] borrowed from peter to pay paul and

[41:23] we're

[41:24] obviously catching up with that today

[41:26] but um

[41:29] you've done an incredible job you know

[41:32] and uh

[41:33] thanks to you and all the staff

[41:35] yeah we really appreciate that i think

[41:37] we're all looking forward to getting

[41:38] back to a normal year next year when

[41:41] we're we're not having to to do that

[41:44] back and forth thank you

[41:46] yeah when you mention normal year i

[41:48] think that's the other thing i think we

[41:49] need to remember that there's a lot of

[41:51] cause and effect here as we're coming

[41:53] out of covid uh that has been cumulative

[41:56] effects over the last two years and it's

[41:58] unclear right now how that will sort

[42:00] itself out over the next six to 12

[42:02] months

[42:03] and so you know i would caution against

[42:05] us doing anything radical at this point

[42:07] until we really see

[42:09] you know kind of what direction that uh

[42:11] that ship is headed in

[42:13] i would also like to make a comment

[42:15] about the user fees um you know i think

[42:18] when it's funny when you mention user

[42:19] fees uh counselor oakley the first thing

[42:21] i thought of was sewer water solid waste

[42:25] i didn't think about the recreational

[42:26] facilities right out of the gate and so

[42:29] you know clearly there may be some

[42:31] opportunities to review where we sit in

[42:33] relation to other communities for

[42:34] example with respect to our recreational

[42:37] user fees but

[42:39] i lay awake at night thinking about our

[42:42] sewer water and the major service user

[42:46] fees because those are user fees that um

[42:49] a very large portion of our community

[42:51] that's on fixed incomes don't have an

[42:53] option to manage the variable tax rates

[42:56] they can manage because anybody over the

[42:58] age of 55 that owns property can

[42:59] actually defer property taxes

[43:03] for a long time basically until you sell

[43:05] your property there's a way to get

[43:06] relief but there is no way to get relief

[43:08] from the user fees

[43:10] and so you know i think we need to be

[43:12] you know very

[43:13] cognizant of where those user fees go

[43:16] for that reason

[43:20] uh councilor roberts

[43:22] i'd like to mention at this point that i

[43:24] really really appreciate the

[43:26] um

[43:29] measured response that jim gives in

[43:32] terms of moving things forward in a way

[43:35] that is uh prudent and not

[43:39] in a frightening way and not in a way

[43:42] that is going to leave us hanging too

[43:43] badly

[43:45] i came from an environment where i

[43:47] actually changed interest rates up one

[43:50] year 21 times and there was a point in

[43:53] time where i was mortgaging houses for

[43:56] 18 percent

[43:58] so things can move crazy

[44:01] those are out of our hands what we need

[44:03] to be able to do is

[44:05] the best for all this is a huge a huge

[44:09] basket of goodies that need to take

[44:11] place here and i really appreciate the

[44:13] prudent way that that you balance things

[44:15] so that you can so that we're not just

[44:17] insulting one portion of the budget for

[44:21] another portion that we've got these

[44:23] things

[44:24] for our capital infrastructure fairly

[44:26] before fairly modest but prudent and i i

[44:29] just really appreciate the way that

[44:30] we've been handling this and i would

[44:32] hate for us to digress too greatly

[44:35] and some fear that inflation is going to

[44:37] go nuts

[44:39] thanks thanks scott roberts counselor

[44:41] dallas further i just had one other

[44:43] thing jim uh do you have any

[44:45] um

[44:47] any uh

[44:49] idea what's coming down from the

[44:50] regional district interior health

[44:54] school board what those increases are

[44:56] kind of looking like if

[44:58] because i know we've had some

[45:00] considerable

[45:01] percentile increases in those as well in

[45:03] the last couple years so yeah

[45:06] i think the regional district their

[45:08] budget they increased by five percent

[45:09] this year

[45:10] that i i can't recall the number it

[45:12] doesn't translate to a whole lot as far

[45:15] as our taxpayers having to pay that

[45:17] the hospital requisition they've been

[45:19] stepping on that

[45:20] hard

[45:21] over the last few years i think it's

[45:23] this year is going to be another

[45:25] 40 45 increase i think we this will be

[45:28] the third

[45:29] and it that impacts i think last year

[45:31] was about 30 dollars that it added so

[45:33] it's again not a huge amount but

[45:35] um

[45:37] we certainly wouldn't get away with the

[45:38] increase like that it's totally

[45:40] different

[45:41] animal but

[45:43] and the school board we won't hear from

[45:44] them until it's usually the first week

[45:46] of april where we get their requisition

[45:48] so don't really have a feel for them yet

[45:50] at all

[45:52] so so the hospital board that's a good

[45:54] comment on that one jim the hospital

[45:56] board

[45:56] is another example of

[45:59] not taking a prudent increase

[46:01] each year

[46:02] to build reserves and in fact they went

[46:05] for

[46:08] don't quote me on this i think it was

[46:10] more than a dozen years with no

[46:12] increases whatsoever and then suddenly

[46:14] we're faced with

[46:15] uh

[46:16] a whole pile of capital improvements of

[46:18] which the hospital district has to pay

[46:20] 40

[46:21] and so uh it's it's catch up big time uh

[46:25] for not

[46:26] taking those increase when the increases

[46:28] in the small amounts when they should

[46:29] have been taken

[46:31] it's a cautionary tale the same thing

[46:33] happened to us with our water um recall

[46:35] that we went about eight years or nine

[46:37] or ten years or something like that

[46:38] without an increase in the water rates

[46:40] and then all of a sudden we have nothing

[46:42] in the reserve and we're panicking to

[46:44] try and get the reserve back in place so

[46:46] you know as much as

[46:48] we look at some of these small

[46:49] incremental improvements and say well

[46:50] maybe we can defer that as you mentioned

[46:53] earlier jim i guess i'm just reinforcing

[46:54] your comment that you pay the piper

[46:57] sooner or later and if it's later the

[46:59] price is higher than if it's sooner

[47:04] thanks for that thanks for your comments

[47:06] council

[47:08] so

[47:09] the next few slides here are on

[47:10] non-market change we've we always just

[47:13] kind of

[47:14] we always discussed on market change but

[47:15] we always just kind of gloss over it

[47:17] so i just want to have a bit of a

[47:19] discussion in addition to everything

[47:21] else we're dealing with this year there

[47:22] was a bit of a hit to non-market change

[47:25] as well

[47:27] council recall on december 6th

[47:30] based on

[47:31] what bc assessment calls the preview

[47:33] role

[47:35] there was a preliminary estimate of

[47:36] non-market change calculated of two

[47:38] hundred and seven thousand dollars five

[47:40] two hundred seven five two hundred seven

[47:41] thousand five hundred and thirteen

[47:42] dollars

[47:44] uh we budget for hundred thousand

[47:45] dollars annually so that seemed to

[47:47] indicate that we would have a hundred

[47:48] and seven thousand dollars that we could

[47:50] use to fund new expenditures transfer to

[47:53] reserves

[47:55] to or to reduce the tax increase

[47:58] but the completed role came out which is

[48:01] an intermediary role we're still waiting

[48:03] on the revised assessment role which

[48:05] will come out in in april

[48:07] but based on the completed role that

[48:09] number has changed from 207 000 to 106

[48:12] 000 and that's not a that's not a final

[48:14] number yet either

[48:16] so what's happened is um

[48:20] actually i'll just go back to the

[48:22] previous page briefly so most of the

[48:25] time what we talk about when we're

[48:26] talking non-market changes

[48:28] is uh new property tax on new assessment

[48:31] so new assessment based on

[48:34] new builds mostly residential houses

[48:36] that are being built

[48:38] but non-market change can also result

[48:40] from

[48:41] boundary extension to bring in new

[48:42] assessment property class changes so

[48:45] changing from class one to six vice

[48:46] versa exemption status changes

[48:50] additions or deletions so that's the new

[48:52] construction

[48:54] inventory change or sorry inventory

[48:56] changes

[48:58] is the new construction additions or

[48:59] deletions i've got some examples of that

[49:01] on the next page

[49:02] and then zoning changes

[49:05] so on to the other page there so as i've

[49:07] noted here

[49:09] uh the most significant uh factor that

[49:11] contributed to the

[49:12] big reduction from that previous

[49:13] estimate to the the current estimate

[49:16] is a 4.6 million dollar reduction to the

[49:18] business class assessment as a result of

[49:20] non-market change

[49:23] 3.7 million of that is related to

[49:25] additions related to deletions

[49:29] which also ties into exemptions as i'll

[49:32] discuss in a bit a bit later here

[49:34] and then 1.9 million due to property

[49:37] class changes

[49:38] and then an increase of 931 thousand

[49:40] dollars due to exemption status change

[49:43] which relates primarily to bootleg

[49:45] primarily the previous being exempt and

[49:47] we're working our way towards full

[49:49] taxation on that

[49:51] so the deletions we're talking about

[49:54] relate almost entirely to save on foods

[49:57] so

[49:59] what happened there

[50:00] is

[50:01] that property was eligible for the

[50:03] revitalization revitalization tax

[50:05] exemption that we offer the kimberley

[50:07] investment incentive program

[50:10] so because that was a multi-year build

[50:13] uh in 2019 that

[50:15] the old store i think of the assessed

[50:16] value was 2.25 million dollars

[50:19] because they continued to use the new

[50:20] store while they were constructing use

[50:22] the old star wars like constructing a

[50:24] new one

[50:25] every year they would go look at that

[50:26] property at the end of october and

[50:29] assess what had been built there and

[50:31] they would add that

[50:32] assessment of the new building onto the

[50:34] old building to the point where at the

[50:35] end of 2021

[50:37] there was 5.5 million dollars in

[50:38] assessment there that two in change

[50:40] related to dual building the rest

[50:42] related to the new building

[50:44] 2022 came along

[50:47] they got final occupancy on the building

[50:48] moved into it demolished the old

[50:50] building

[50:51] so they removed the folio associated

[50:54] with the old building which was assessed

[50:56] at 5.5 million dollars year prior so

[50:58] that that dropped off

[51:00] the assessment role through non-market

[51:02] change

[51:03] they added the cost of the new building

[51:04] which is around six million dollars and

[51:06] then because they were eligible for that

[51:09] exemption they reduced that by 3.8

[51:12] million dollars

[51:13] so we saw a net reduction of about 3.25

[51:17] million dollars to class 6 as a result

[51:19] of that that building

[51:21] in particular

[51:22] so that was a huge hit probably fifty six thousand dollars

[51:28] alone um

[51:30] so the residential non-market assessment in

[51:33] 2022 it increased by about 33 million

[51:36] dollars which would give us about 160

[51:38] 000 in new tax

[51:40] so you deduct this 56 000 related to

[51:43] primarily to

[51:45] save on foods

[51:46] and then bc assessment there was a

[51:48] number of properties in

[51:51] up at the ski hills so

[51:52] north star mountain village and mountain

[51:55] spirit

[51:57] a bunch of those properties just because

[51:58] of the way they're they're zoned for use

[52:00] their split classification the portion

[52:03] for short-term rentals is class six and

[52:05] when the property owners are using it

[52:07] they

[52:07] allocate a portion of that to

[52:09] residential

[52:10] so there were 17 units in there that

[52:12] they

[52:13] um

[52:14] they ended up moving from that split

[52:16] classification to 100 percent

[52:19] uh residential

[52:20] so that was almost another

[52:22] i think of the 1.9 it was about 1.2

[52:25] million dollars related to that

[52:27] and as we know the tax rate for class

[52:28] six is about two and a half times the

[52:30] residential

[52:31] so you move from the higher classification into

[52:34] the lower you're going to lose a bunch

[52:35] of tax revenue so there's another

[52:37] 20 20 000 change that was lost there

[52:41] so that brings that 160 thousand dollars

[52:44] from residential there was another 19

[52:46] 000 i think related to

[52:49] recreation class to the good so that

[52:51] gets us back down to almost the budget

[52:53] amount

[52:56] so

[52:57] complicated explanation but i'm i'm

[52:59] hoping that that kind of explains to

[53:01] council what happened there that's it's

[53:03] an anomaly that unfortunately happened

[53:05] in a year where we're facing a bunch of

[53:07] other challenges so

[53:09] if that wouldn't happen we would have

[53:10] had a bunch of non-market change would

[53:12] could have helped offset that tax

[53:13] increase but

[53:15] counselor kiddo

[53:17] so does that mean we got a bunch of

[53:18] extra money when savon had two buildings

[53:20] down there

[53:22] we did get in 2022 when that assessment

[53:24] got up to 5.5 we received some

[53:26] additional non-market change there yeah

[53:30] so that exemption will it's a three year

[53:32] exemption so 22 3 4 and then in 2025

[53:35] we'll we'll get that assessment or that

[53:38] money back again

[53:43] so that brings us to the first um so so

[53:46] just

[53:47] so

[53:48] the

[53:49] 160 thousand or so that we got from that

[53:51] non it was it was a good thing we had a

[53:53] good year last year yes otherwise the

[53:55] pain was a whole lot more

[53:57] yeah it was a great year for residential

[54:01] construction i mean 33 million dollars

[54:02] that's a that's a big number

[54:08] so

[54:08] unless there's any questions

[54:11] on the previous slides here we'll move

[54:13] on to the first slide where i'm asking

[54:15] council for some direction

[54:17] that resolution being the council

[54:18] approved for inclusion in the five-year

[54:20] financial plan by law the proposed-based

[54:22] budget adjustments related to the

[54:24] general operating budget as detailed in

[54:25] slides 16-31 and the cfo's march 21st 22

[54:29] presentation to council that will allow

[54:31] us to proceed with bylaw

[54:46] thank you council thanks for your

[54:47] patience through that

[54:51] so the next section here is the aquatic

[54:53] center

[54:54] parcel tax and as a council is aware

[54:57] through kovid we've had some

[54:59] ups and downs ebbs and flows with this

[55:00] as well so just a bit of a recap on that

[55:03] um

[55:04] in 2019 we changed the aquatic center

[55:06] funding model so that

[55:08] uh the money collected through the

[55:09] parcel tax funds 100 of the operating

[55:11] deficit payments associated with that

[55:13] facility

[55:14] in 2020 with at the onset of covid we

[55:17] had already adopted a bylaw setting that

[55:19] rate at 195.91

[55:22] that was before we knew the extent to

[55:24] the extended facility shutdown

[55:27] so we ended up collecting 361 thousand

[55:29] dollars more in revenue than we needed

[55:31] that year to fund the deficit and debt

[55:32] payments so

[55:35] because

[55:36] parcel tax revenue can only be used

[55:39] to to

[55:40] pay for what it was the parcel tax was

[55:42] established for which was to fund the

[55:44] debt payments and operating the aquatic

[55:46] center

[55:46] what we did is we put that into a

[55:48] reserve specific to that parcel tax

[55:52] and

[55:53] what what we talked about doing with

[55:55] that was using it

[55:57] in 2021 to reduce the parcel tax levy so

[56:00] we were able to reduce the levy last

[56:03] year to

[56:04] 88.51 cents from that 195.81

[56:08] and in 2021

[56:11] the aquatic center actually ended up um

[56:14] making more revenue than we had

[56:16] anticipated so of that 361 000 we didn't

[56:19] need to use that all to make up for the

[56:22] um the deficit in 2021 so we were left

[56:24] with 63 000

[56:26] dollars in that reserve

[56:28] which on the next slide

[56:30] you'll see

[56:32] we use that to

[56:34] we through it against the 2022 parcel

[56:37] tax

[56:38] so if you take the operating revenue

[56:39] less expenditures less debt payments

[56:43] that's the amount left in that reserve

[56:45] we come up with uh

[56:47] a deficit including debt of 946 000

[56:52] and using a parcel tax parcel count of

[56:54] 4602 which could change albeit slightly

[56:58] uh with a revised role when it comes out

[57:00] in april

[57:01] that works out to a parcel tax of 205.67

[57:06] per year so

[57:07] we're really just getting back to that

[57:09] normal range in 2019 it was 198.36

[57:13] so now we're out up to 205.67

[57:16] and

[57:17] assuming we're not going to have um

[57:20] you know a big savings on the pool next

[57:22] year i don't anticipate that we're gonna

[57:25] we won't have a number like that to

[57:26] reduce the parcel tax buy so the

[57:31] works out to about 13 that we saved on

[57:33] the parcel tax this year because we had

[57:35] that amount in reserve we'll have to make that up next year

[57:45] so as the facility was shut down i know

[57:47] we had a lot of feedback from taxpayers

[57:50] that

[57:51] are my taxes going to be reduced as a

[57:52] result of you know the aquatic center

[57:54] not being used

[57:56] the answer was yes we gave that money

[57:58] back

[57:59] uh but now that we're in full operation

[58:01] again the 205 dollars is what it costs

[58:03] to operate so

[58:05] we gave the money back and now we're

[58:07] back to where we were when we started so

[58:08] it's not exactly an increase this year

[58:11] as as it is a writing of the ship uh

[58:14] back to where it was pre uh

[58:16] pre-lockdown

[58:17] exactly okay

[58:19] thank you jim yeah thanks for those

[58:20] comments

[58:22] so unless there's any questions on that

[58:23] on the next slide is that the next

[58:25] resolution i'm requesting from council

[58:27] uh which is the council direct staff to

[58:29] prepare an amendment to the current

[58:31] kimberley parcel tax bylaw

[58:33] to make the 2022 parcel tax 205 dollars

[58:36] and 67 cents

[58:38] mover please counselor roberts thank you

[58:41] councillor mcvean seconds

[58:43] uh further discussion uh i do have a

[58:45] question um

[58:47] relating to the operating revenue

[58:49] and expenses

[58:51] so at 340 000 i that's that seems to be

[58:54] going up uh over the last couple of

[58:56] years i seem to remember 300 kind of

[58:58] being the last conversation we had so my

[59:01] question is are the

[59:04] is the revenue going up lock step with

[59:06] the expenditures like are we continuing

[59:08] to kind of

[59:10] you know keep keep that

[59:12] you know keep that balance or kind of

[59:14] what's happening with respect to

[59:15] expenses and and revenues no that's that

[59:18] would be great if that would happen i

[59:20] mean we are the revenues are increasing

[59:22] by two percent a year um based on the

[59:25] increases anticipated in the in the fees

[59:27] bylaw

[59:28] um

[59:29] the expenditures are increasing on

[59:31] average by that two percent a little

[59:33] different this year but

[59:35] so that two percent of revenue is a lot

[59:38] less than that two percent of

[59:39] expenditures so that gap is going to

[59:41] continue to grow and grow and grow and

[59:42] there's really nothing we can do about

[59:45] that it's the subsidy or the deficit's

[59:47] going to continue to grow just because

[59:48] of the nature of the uh the relationship

[59:52] there between revenues and expenditures

[59:54] so uh i don't expect you to have the

[59:56] exact number but uh with respect to

[59:59] usage of the aquatic center is that

[1:00:01] remaining flat are we seeing an increase

[1:00:03] in that or because that's another way to

[1:00:05] increase

[1:00:06] yeah to close the gap obviously is to

[1:00:08] get more usage of the facility yeah and

[1:00:10] just i don't have that mr mayor the

[1:00:12] council will have the discussion uh or

[1:00:14] the the opportunity to ask those

[1:00:15] questions that

[1:00:17] the user fees bylaw for the wreck

[1:00:19] facilities is going to be coming forward

[1:00:21] um i anticipate in the next month here

[1:00:24] so i i would think that there's going to

[1:00:26] be some discussion about that in the

[1:00:27] staff report and an opportunity for

[1:00:29] council to

[1:00:30] ask some questions there all right very

[1:00:32] good thanks jim yep councillor dallin

[1:00:35] just in relation to that mr mayor um

[1:00:38] contingent on the pho order of uh

[1:00:42] necessary mandates perhaps

[1:00:45] usage will go up when that relaxes some

[1:00:47] more

[1:00:51] yeah perhaps although um

[1:00:56] yeah i get i guess i guess the question

[1:00:58] is where was it pre-covered

[1:01:00] you know versus you know kind of where

[1:01:02] are we coming out of it the you know the

[1:01:04] recreation facilities and aquatic the

[1:01:06] aquatic center in particular you know is

[1:01:08] one of those amenities in the community

[1:01:09] where you're never expected to make

[1:01:11] money i mean we're always going to be

[1:01:12] deficit financing

[1:01:13] and you know i know we've been

[1:01:15] struggling the last couple of years with

[1:01:17] staying inside the operating budget and

[1:01:20] we in fact have cut some hours and some

[1:01:23] corners at the aquatic center in order

[1:01:24] to stay inside that envelope and i guess

[1:01:27] uh as we prepare for that conversation

[1:01:29] later on

[1:01:30] um you know i i think we need to be very

[1:01:33] cautious about cutting back services you

[1:01:35] know at the aquatic center uh

[1:01:38] i think we need to look at ways of

[1:01:41] increasing revenues i guess is what i'm

[1:01:42] saying and hopefully that'll be a an

[1:01:45] important part of the conversation when

[1:01:46] we see the staff report

[1:01:50] thank you okay

[1:01:52] thank you mr mayor so

[1:01:54] yeah unless there's any other discussion

[1:01:56] um the the next slide is

[1:01:59] have we taken a vote on that already

[1:02:01] yeah okay thank you

[1:02:15] so the next section is proposed sewer

[1:02:17] operating based budget adjustments and

[1:02:19] council has had these discussions

[1:02:21] already on january 24th i presented a

[1:02:24] staff report on financial analysis of

[1:02:25] the new wastewater treatment plant

[1:02:27] so this is really just incorporating

[1:02:29] those changes into the budget with

[1:02:30] regards to

[1:02:32] that the debt payments that we had

[1:02:35] budgeted previously removing those from

[1:02:36] the budget incorporating

[1:02:39] the debt payments that we discussed at

[1:02:40] that meeting into the budget

[1:02:42] as well as the incremental operating

[1:02:44] expenditures associated with operating

[1:02:46] that new plan versus the old one when it

[1:02:48] when we flip the switch hopefully in

[1:02:51] 2026.

[1:02:53] so i've just reiterated the resolutions

[1:02:55] that were passed at that 24 january 24th

[1:02:58] meeting i won't read through those

[1:03:01] it does note at the bottom of this page

[1:03:03] there was some discussion on

[1:03:04] january 24th at that meeting about

[1:03:08] as a way of deferring the principal

[1:03:10] payments on the debt associated with the

[1:03:12] new plant

[1:03:14] um doing

[1:03:16] undertaking interim or temporary boring

[1:03:18] for the first few years so as as we

[1:03:21] we're gonna spend

[1:03:23] three million dollars in in year one

[1:03:25] three and year two and then have it

[1:03:26] operating in year three

[1:03:28] we temporarily borrow take out a short

[1:03:31] term borrowing bylaw uh that way we're

[1:03:34] only paying interest payments for for

[1:03:35] those first two years and then we enter

[1:03:38] the

[1:03:39] uh have the debenture issue and enter

[1:03:40] into the long-term debt in the third

[1:03:42] year so the numbers that are on the

[1:03:44] table on the next page

[1:03:45] that's what they they reflect

[1:03:48] is those estimated costs

[1:03:51] as discussed at that meeting we're

[1:03:53] basing the long-term borrowing on 30

[1:03:55] years

[1:03:56] at 3 percent uh which was the

[1:04:00] that number was arrived at after

[1:04:02] discussions with the mfa

[1:04:04] they made it very clear that that was uh

[1:04:07] an estimate as we know we can't predict

[1:04:09] what the rates are going to be at that

[1:04:10] time but

[1:04:13] so jim the concept of of temporary

[1:04:15] borrowing over the first couple three

[1:04:17] years until it's complete is that a

[1:04:19] traditional method

[1:04:21] very common yeah thank you

[1:04:32] that's correct yeah these are this is

[1:04:33] all the last three years of the

[1:04:34] five-year financial plan

[1:04:36] and of course all of that depends it

[1:04:38] hinges on the the grant application that

[1:04:40] we submitted for that facility

[1:04:42] so well march of 2023 i think is when

[1:04:45] we're hoping to hear on that

[1:04:49] so

[1:04:50] unless there's any questions with

[1:04:51] regards to this table

[1:04:53] i'll move on to the next slide and ask

[1:04:54] the council and prove approve the

[1:04:56] inclusion of these changes in the

[1:04:58] five-year plan

[1:05:13] sorry didn't have my mic on for those

[1:05:15] online uh the motion was carried

[1:05:20] okay thank you council

[1:05:22] so the last section of the report here

[1:05:24] we're done the operating side of things

[1:05:25] now we're into the the capital

[1:05:26] non-capital project plan

[1:05:29] um council initially approved uh the

[1:05:32] preliminary five-year capital

[1:05:33] non-capital project plan on november 1st

[1:05:36] there have been a number of changes

[1:05:38] since then

[1:05:39] the reason we approve it that early is

[1:05:41] so that we can any of the big projects

[1:05:44] that aren't already included in year two

[1:05:46] the five-year financial plan

[1:05:48] we want approval of those and then we

[1:05:50] actually make an amendment to the

[1:05:51] current five-year financial plan year to allow us to proceed with uh tenders

[1:05:55] and rfps for those larger projects

[1:05:58] since that time we've we've adopted a

[1:06:01] five-year financial plan bylaw that

[1:06:02] impacted some of those numbers

[1:06:05] some of the projects that

[1:06:07] we had budgeted in 2021 are being

[1:06:09] carried forward for a variety of reasons

[1:06:11] as one example we ordered a

[1:06:14] i think it was a tandem truck in january

[1:06:16] of 2021

[1:06:17] we still haven't received it i think

[1:06:19] we're anticipating receiving it this april so

[1:06:22] there are a variety reasons for these

[1:06:24] carry forwards but uh they're all noted

[1:06:27] in the in the index

[1:06:29] uh individually

[1:06:31] some there's been some subsequent

[1:06:32] council

[1:06:33] resolutions passed that impact the plan

[1:06:35] and there's a couple projects that have

[1:06:37] been added as well

[1:06:39] so the next page here

[1:06:41] and i'll go go through these

[1:06:44] the more significant ones anyways on the next couple of pages here in these

[1:06:47] tables and then

[1:06:49] um as noted

[1:06:52] they're they're all listed in the

[1:06:53] appendix i do have some other slides

[1:06:55] after this that include a bit of a

[1:06:57] narrative on some of these

[1:07:00] so

[1:07:01] the wastewater treatment plant that's

[1:07:03] the first four

[1:07:05] items on in this

[1:07:06] council's aware of those that was again

[1:07:08] further to the discussion

[1:07:12] at january 24th so just getting the

[1:07:14] updated numbers in there

[1:07:16] the kimberley gymnastics facility uh

[1:07:18] reconstruction

[1:07:20] as everyone's aware uh in on december

[1:07:23] 14th that facility was was lost to fire

[1:07:26] that facility will be is proposed to be

[1:07:29] rebuilt with a combination of insurance

[1:07:30] proceeds and some fundraising by the

[1:07:32] club

[1:07:33] so that that was added to the project at

[1:07:35] no cost to the city but it is an asset

[1:07:37] that will be added to our balance sheet

[1:07:39] so it's included in the budget

[1:07:41] the swan half park reconstruction or

[1:07:43] construction of that new park

[1:07:45] and i've got a bit of a blurb on that

[1:07:48] at a proposed cost of 222 000

[1:07:52] uh council passed a resolution at the

[1:07:54] february 28 regular meeting to increase

[1:07:56] the budget for the roofs at city hall

[1:07:57] and rcmp based on bids that were

[1:08:00] received

[1:08:01] and there's a couple of it budget items

[1:08:04] there refresh of the microsoft office

[1:08:06] we're taking that out value of 45 000

[1:08:08] because we're moving to subscription

[1:08:10] based

[1:08:11] so we will no longer need to do that

[1:08:13] and so in its place uh the manager of

[1:08:16] it is introducing uh conferencing

[1:08:19] equipment refresh

[1:08:20] so that's in 2026 so by that time that

[1:08:24] all the equipment has been added to this

[1:08:25] facility uh we'll look at uh refreshing

[1:08:27] that

[1:08:29] the um the boundary street reconduct

[1:08:32] reconstruction

[1:08:33] that's the next one two three four

[1:08:36] items there in november when this was

[1:08:39] presented council it was the entire

[1:08:41] budget that was presented including the

[1:08:42] city's portion and uh

[1:08:44] the third party portions so tech is is

[1:08:47] um doing some work in that same trench

[1:08:50] and it was proposed that the

[1:08:51] developer was going to do some work

[1:08:53] there as well so

[1:08:55] because

[1:08:56] we won't be funding

[1:08:58] those projects they won't be our assets

[1:09:00] at the end of the day

[1:09:02] we're just removing those from the

[1:09:03] capital budget and what's in appendix a

[1:09:05] is the the city's portion of that

[1:09:07] project

[1:09:09] um

[1:09:10] the tech portion of that we're not sure

[1:09:12] yet whether the developer portion is

[1:09:14] going to proceed but tech is committed

[1:09:15] to proceeding with their portion

[1:09:18] they're going to advance us the

[1:09:20] estimated cost of doing that project

[1:09:22] plus a contingency

[1:09:24] we're going to put that in the bank and use that money to pay

[1:09:28] the bills for their portion of the work

[1:09:30] as they come along so there'll be no

[1:09:31] impact to the city's cash flow as a

[1:09:33] result of that

[1:09:35] um

[1:09:38] next one down marysville arena building

[1:09:39] condition assessment council did receive

[1:09:42] a presentation about that uh i believe

[1:09:44] it was a last council meeting

[1:09:47] there there were millions of dollars

[1:09:49] worth of recommended um

[1:09:53] repairs work that needed to be done to

[1:09:55] those facilities

[1:09:56] and there was i think it was eighty two

[1:09:58] thousand dollars that was listed as

[1:10:00] immediate so safety

[1:10:03] concerns

[1:10:04] so the manager of parks and facilities

[1:10:07] has requested that those immediate

[1:10:10] expenditures of 37 300 for the

[1:10:13] marysville rink and 447 for the civic

[1:10:16] be included in the 2022 plan so we can

[1:10:18] take care of those

[1:10:20] then there's a staff report forthcoming

[1:10:22] from the manager to uh

[1:10:24] discuss with council that the rest of

[1:10:26] the recommendations that report get

[1:10:28] councils direction going forward on

[1:10:29] those

[1:10:32] the rest of these

[1:10:34] relate to

[1:10:36] the

[1:10:37] financial plan amendment bylaw 2708 and

[1:10:39] the carry forwards

[1:10:41] again they're they're detailed project

[1:10:44] by project and appendix

[1:10:46] um one

[1:10:47] so if council wants to discuss those uh

[1:10:49] please ask the questions i'm not going

[1:10:51] to go forward through them at this point

[1:10:52] in time

[1:10:54] there's a couple of non-capital items

[1:10:56] that were added to the list as well

[1:10:58] marysville arena removal of asbestos

[1:11:01] containing material

[1:11:03] so that's again that's a health and

[1:11:05] safety item

[1:11:07] that we want to get done in that

[1:11:09] facility regardless of

[1:11:11] you know

[1:11:12] what other

[1:11:14] repairs need to be done going forward

[1:11:16] over the longer term

[1:11:17] and then the last one is asset

[1:11:19] retirement obligation implementation

[1:11:22] which coincidentally kind of relates to

[1:11:23] the the item above it

[1:11:25] so in 2022

[1:11:27] the public sector accounting board is

[1:11:28] introducing a new standard whereby

[1:11:32] public bodies municipalities are

[1:11:34] obligated to recognize as a

[1:11:37] liability the cost of

[1:11:39] doing things like asbestos removal

[1:11:41] so if this building for example

[1:11:44] we got an estimate saying that

[1:11:47] when this building comes down now we're

[1:11:50] going to have to spend 50 000 on

[1:11:51] asbestos removal remediation

[1:11:54] we have to recognize that as a as a

[1:11:56] liability

[1:11:57] in 2022.

[1:11:59] the idea behind that i think being that

[1:12:02] they just want to force municipalities

[1:12:03] into planning for that

[1:12:05] so that when you know if and when we

[1:12:07] have to um

[1:12:09] demolish these buildings we're not

[1:12:10] having to scramble for the money to do it the expenditure has already

[1:12:14] been recognized

[1:12:16] so but that's a non-cash item

[1:12:19] that's a non-cash cash item yeah balance

[1:12:21] sheet is uh entry exactly it's going to

[1:12:23] look really strange on the uh

[1:12:26] and the financials when it happens but

[1:12:27] this is the reason for it

[1:12:29] so we we talked to uh an accounting firm

[1:12:32] in december and got a quote of eighteen

[1:12:33] thousand dollars to help with the

[1:12:35] remediation or the implementation and

[1:12:39] we're gonna have to modify our financial

[1:12:41] statements and some of our systems to

[1:12:42] accommodate this

[1:12:44] so i've got a budget of twenty thousand

[1:12:45] dollars in here um and just uh

[1:12:50] in case it uh went up a little bit so

[1:12:52] those are those are both non-capital

[1:12:54] items um all of these are funded from

[1:12:56] reserves so again they don't they don't

[1:12:58] impact

[1:13:00] the tax rates

[1:13:03] councilor roberts uh jim is that in

[1:13:04] addition to the previous uh general one

[1:13:07] uh about the general building condition

[1:13:10] for the arena of thirty seven thousand

[1:13:12] three hundred it is in addition to yeah

[1:13:14] that building condition assessment on

[1:13:16] marysville had that as a 2022

[1:13:19] item but it didn't have it listed under

[1:13:21] the immediate okay so it is in addition

[1:13:23] to that thank you

[1:13:26] good question

[1:13:29] so these next slides i think i've

[1:13:32] provided explanations already so the

[1:13:34] wastewater treatment plant gymnastics

[1:13:36] facility

[1:13:38] so on off park

[1:13:40] that's one app part by the way

[1:13:43] we first heard about that from some some

[1:13:46] really keen citizens that live in the

[1:13:47] swan half subdivision in january 13th of

[1:13:49] 2020 and they

[1:13:51] approached staff last year indicating

[1:13:53] that they had fundraised close to 120

[1:13:55] 000

[1:13:57] they asked the city to

[1:13:59] make an application to cbt for a hundred

[1:14:01] thousand dollars to

[1:14:03] complete the estimated cost or to

[1:14:05] complete that project at the estimated

[1:14:07] cost of 222 000. so if that grant is

[1:14:11] approved that will be the city's

[1:14:12] contribution to the project

[1:14:14] and the rest will be funded through the

[1:14:15] grant or the fundraising efforts of that

[1:14:18] those folks kelsey goodwin

[1:14:20] the cbt website is showing a 99 000

[1:14:23] grant to kimberly for the swan avenue

[1:14:26] park so goodness we didn't get it all

[1:14:29] but we got

[1:14:31] 99 out of 100.

[1:14:33] that's great news

[1:14:35] so if i may on uh using swann avenue

[1:14:38] park as an example

[1:14:40] so we have several of these community

[1:14:42] projects that come through the

[1:14:44] expectation is the city takes over

[1:14:47] maintenance of these facilities how do

[1:14:49] we account for that with respect to

[1:14:51] service levels for parks and facilities

[1:14:54] yeah that's a good point i think when

[1:14:56] that

[1:14:57] the request came forward to

[1:14:59] apply for that cbt grant i think there

[1:15:01] was an indication by the manager of

[1:15:02] parks and facilities in there that

[1:15:04] they were going to accommodate the

[1:15:05] increased maintenance of that facility

[1:15:07] within the existing

[1:15:09] workforce

[1:15:10] which okay you know means stretching

[1:15:12] them further

[1:15:13] something else we should be thinking

[1:15:14] about we should start doing

[1:15:16] easier said than done whenever we're

[1:15:18] adding a new asset like this is

[1:15:20] that the life of this equipment's going

[1:15:22] to be maybe 10 years

[1:15:24] so we should almost be putting 20 25 000

[1:15:27] a year away into a reserve

[1:15:30] to replace that

[1:15:32] when it gets time to replace

[1:15:34] so that's that's kind of the you know

[1:15:36] the overall cost of these new assets

[1:15:39] thank you

[1:15:43] the next one city hall rcmp roofs we've

[1:15:45] discussed that

[1:15:47] boundary street reconstruction we've

[1:15:48] discussed that

[1:15:50] the arena building condition assessment

[1:15:52] recommendations and then the last one

[1:15:55] the asset retirement obligation

[1:15:57] and and you will hear me talking more

[1:15:58] about that over the next year and uh

[1:16:01] i suspect that bdo will

[1:16:04] potentially be mentioning it

[1:16:06] during their presentation of the

[1:16:07] financial statements

[1:16:09] for 2021 and certainly for 2022 they'll

[1:16:11] be they'll be speaking to that as well

[1:16:15] so the last

[1:16:17] bit of direction i'm seeking from

[1:16:18] council is to

[1:16:20] improve the inclusion of of these

[1:16:22] changes in the five-year financial plan

[1:16:24] going forward and to approve the capital

[1:16:26] non-capital projects in appendix one for

[1:16:29] inclusion in the plan

[1:16:44] okay i guess that wasn't the last bit of

[1:16:45] direction um

[1:16:47] sorry a big deal there

[1:16:50] the next slide is proposed next steps so

[1:16:55] based on the direction the council is

[1:16:56] provided here there is one more piece of

[1:16:58] direction here but

[1:17:00] i'm proposing that at the april 25th

[1:17:01] regular meeting um

[1:17:04] the five-year financial plan bylaw tax

[1:17:06] rates bylaw and aquatic center parcel

[1:17:07] tax bylaw be brought forward for

[1:17:09] consideration the first three readings

[1:17:11] brought back for adoption on may 9th and

[1:17:13] then processing of

[1:17:15] mailing of the tax notices

[1:17:17] over the next couple of weeks

[1:17:19] so that the next and last direction i'm

[1:17:22] seeking from council is

[1:17:23] to send staff away to

[1:17:26] draft fire financial plan violent tax

[1:17:28] rates by law

[1:17:41] thank you council

[1:17:48] appreciate your

[1:17:49] again your patience

[1:17:56] i think it's important for us to

[1:17:57] remember

[1:18:03] roughly

[1:18:24] and when you consider the size of budgie

[1:18:47] i have have actually done a uh

[1:18:49] a very uh thoughtful

[1:18:52] and um i'm searching for the right word

[1:18:55] here it it's uh

[1:18:57] yeah it's it's a it's a respectful budget uh

[1:19:02] under the circumstances the very

[1:19:03] difficult circumstances that we're

[1:19:05] operating in these days and we're doing

[1:19:07] this without sacrificing any city

[1:19:09] services and in fact as we move into

[1:19:12] next year we're looking at the

[1:19:13] possibility of increasing service so

[1:19:17] um

[1:19:21] sorry about that

[1:19:23] so uh uh you know thanks so much jim and staff uh scott and staff for uh you

[1:19:29] know all the great work on on you know

[1:19:31] getting us to where we need to be for

[1:19:32] 2022. councilor mcbain

[1:19:35] yeah i think i think the word i would

[1:19:37] use to describe um and i think i've used

[1:19:39] it before jim for your presentations is

[1:19:41] digestible

[1:19:43] um it's it it's it becomes makes our job

[1:19:46] a lot easier um the explanations that

[1:19:48] you provide um i know it helps it helps

[1:19:51] me a lot and

[1:19:52] i really really appreciate it and i hope

[1:19:55] you know when folks listen in um they

[1:19:57] get the uh they get the same sense of

[1:20:00] what we

[1:20:02] come to appreciate from you so yeah it's

[1:20:04] great yeah thanks i really appreciate

[1:20:06] the comments it lets me know that i'm

[1:20:08] kind of on the right track with this

[1:20:09] stuff it is

[1:20:10] my whole goal putting this together is

[1:20:12] really to to make it understandable and

[1:20:14] digestible so that's if i've done that

[1:20:16] that's that's great to hear thanks

[1:20:22] scott do you

[1:20:27] wish to weigh in with any comments

[1:20:32] i'll just keep it short um jim thanks

[1:20:35] again great job

[1:20:38] um thanks you know

[1:20:40] crisis management is one thing but uh

[1:20:43] we seem to be stacking crises lately

[1:20:46] um so you know whether it's inflation or

[1:20:49] uh oil prices and gas prices going

[1:20:51] through the roof

[1:20:52] uh more in europe or pandemic

[1:20:56] jim's kept a steady hand on the wheel

[1:20:57] and has guided us through so uh tough

[1:21:00] budget um i really appreciate jim and

[1:21:03] the rest of staff's hard work

[1:21:05] and uh thank you to council for um

[1:21:07] having trust in us all

[1:21:10] thank you scott

[1:21:12] anything further council

[1:21:15] all right uh we have um

[1:21:19] some correspondence that we need to uh

[1:21:22] receive this evening

[1:21:24] uh two letters as a matter of fact could

[1:21:26] i have a motion to receive

[1:21:29] counselor goodwin thank you and

[1:21:30] counselor kiddo seconds

[1:21:32] any uh

[1:21:33] any comments

[1:21:39] terry nunn call the question on receipt

[1:21:41] all those in favor

[1:21:43] the motion is passed

[1:21:46] and i think unless council has any

[1:21:48] further comments or jim last call

[1:21:51] um

[1:21:52] no just again thanks to thanks to

[1:21:54] council

[1:21:55] thanks to staff as well there's a lot of

[1:21:57] time and effort to put into um coming up

[1:22:00] with this stuff from from all of the

[1:22:03] managers so

[1:22:04] yeah no doubt yeah so thank them

[1:22:07] you don't make this stuff up

[1:22:11] okay awesome uh move adjournment

[1:22:14] counselor dallas moves counselor goodwin

[1:22:16] seconds all those in favor

[1:22:19] motion is carried thanks folks we're

[1:22:21] done

[1:22:28] i'm glad you remember that

Special Council - 21 Mar 2022

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