[0:04] public to see.

[0:10] » Yeah.

[0:14] » Cool. So, I think we're all here and I heard the meeting is ready to start. So,

[0:19] I think we are ready to start. So I would like to call our regular meeting

[0:25] for November 3rd order and acknowledge that we're gathered on the traditional

[0:30] and unseated territory of the KC map and semi first nations. We have an agenda in

[0:36] front of us and I believe we need to make a change to that agenda. So I'm

[0:40] going to first just get it on the floor. So I'll move the U agenda and get a

[0:46] seconded by Alrech that I need to >> Yes. uh through the chair to council. Um

[0:53] I was aware of um a mistake with um giving out a template for our October

[1:01] 20th minutes. It's not the actual minutes that is in your package. So I'd

[1:04] like to have that uh removed from consideration of when adopting amend

[1:09] amendments. And councelor Mack also identified that there was a mistake made

[1:14] in the se October 27th special minutes. So I'd also like to have those removed

[1:21] from consideration adoption. Those will come forward in the proper next.

[1:25] » So we'll I'll move that we amend section uh so can I do that to agenda? So I will

[1:32] amend move that we amend item 6A and strike 6 A1 [clears throat]

[1:39] city. So it's 6 A. It's actually >> Oh, sorry. 6A2.

[1:45] » 6 A1. You're correct. The regular meeting is October 20th and just um um

[1:51] three or the October 27th special meeting.

[1:55] » Sure. So um that we strike 6A1 and that we amend item uh 6 A3 Tuesday to say

[2:03] that the minutes of the special meeting held on October 20th sorry October 14th

[2:09] and October 20th 2025 adopted Mr. So that's my proposed amendment second by

[2:14] council M. Further discussion seeing none on that I'll call a question

[2:19] on the amendment. All those in favor any opposed none opposed. So that's

[2:23] unanimously. So we now have an amended agenda. Is there any other changes?

[2:28] Thank you. Uh any other amendments?

[2:33] Seeing none I'll call the question on the amended agenda. All those in favor?

[2:37] Any opposed? So that's carried unanimous be part of the committee of the poll.

[2:41] I'll move that the committee of the poll uh commence. Is there a seconder? So

[2:47] seconded by councelor Alrech. Any further discussion? All the questions in

[2:52] favor? Any opposed? So that's carried unanimously. I'll turn it over to Mr.

[2:56] Chang and maybe a brief overview of this amendment if you had any

[3:03] uh if there's anybody who would like to speak and provide the benefit of their

[3:06] opinion pass this committee level. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um so a presentation for

[3:12] this financial plan amendment was formed um in prior weeks. Uh

[3:19] for this particular financial plan amendment uh it's mostly house items um

[3:24] such as additional transformation items um that we need to adapt to

[3:30] throughout the year. They were limited that presentation on state of fire all

[3:36] fired for the exterior of the building. So there's the be inside that a little

[3:42] bit more significant. Um but for the most part that pretty much summarizes

[3:47] the items. [clears throat]

[3:50] » Thank you. >> So um is anybody received any

[3:55] correspondence on this? >> Uh no you worship.

[3:58] » Thank you. And is there anybody here that would like to speak to the uh 2025

[4:04] 2029 financial plan amendment that's here

[4:09] and if you are and I'm not seeing that there anybody that is

[4:14] so checking again I'm not seeing any so I think there's probably nobody here

[4:19] that wants to provide us input on this is there any further discussion council

[4:27] seeing none then I'll Move that we rise and report. Is there a second council or

[4:31] wallets? All further discussion seem all those in favor. So that's carried. Uh so

[4:39] that brings us to business arising. So we have a recommendation hearing section

[4:43] 5A. The bylaw cited as financial plan 2025

[4:48] through 2029 bylaw 2025 number 3308 amendment number one 2025 bylaw number

[4:54] 3315. That be right upon final time. Is there a mover? Move by councelor Alrech.

[4:59] Seconder seconded by councelor White. Further discussion

[5:04] seeing none question. All those in favor? Is there any opposed? So that's

[5:08] carried. We're on to our consent agenda. Anybody like to remove any

[5:16] seeing none who would like to move by councelor seconded by Alrech. Further

[5:21] discussion see the question. All those in favor?

[5:25] So there's none oppose. So that's carried. Uh so now we have the

[5:30] opportunity for a delegation. I guess it's Miss Luck who's coming to present.

[5:36] » Yeah, it's actually L >> Lucky. Awesome. Thank you so much.

[5:40] » No, thank you. Um Papel and um counselors, thank you for giving

[5:47] me the opportunity. >> And if you want, you're more than

[5:49] welcome to pull up a chair if that's more convenience.

[5:53] Yes, >> then I don't have to feel so studious.

[5:59] Um, my name is Carlen Lucky. I'm a new resident here in the city of Langley and

[6:03] I represent Lucky Life Society. We are here today because our mission is

[6:08] perfectly aligned with your s strategic goals to integrate a holistic

[6:17] approach to community safety and fostering a thriving healthy community

[6:21] for all. all residents key themes throughout the city's city of Langley's

[6:28] he why did I put that word in I'm so sorry

[6:32] I can't say it plan um every council meeting addresses high

[6:37] costs of response the cost of policing emergency housing emergency services

[6:42] reacting to crisises but those crisises all share a common root the cycle of

[6:50] trauma is continual The generational crisis has touched

[6:54] families directly or indirectly all throughout this province. We cannot

[7:00] speak of generational trauma in Canada without first acknowledging the profound

[7:05] and ongoing impact of assimulation behavior and residential schools and the

[7:10] critical need for truth and reconciliation for indigenous families

[7:15] whose wounds run deep within our community and on this very land that we

[7:20] stand on today. Beyond that, consider the foundational trauma experienced by

[7:26] countless immigrants. Immigrant families over the last 200

[7:31] years from those interament camps during wartime and the ongoing struggles with

[7:37] displacement. This historical burden echoes in our homes today. And the mere

[7:43] fact that we had more deaths from substance abuse during the pandemic than

[7:48] the pandemic itself is a loud and clear message of our provin province's mental

[7:54] health state. Lucky life's approach is to build on is

[8:00] built on the wisdom that was passed on to me by the Haida nation. Our community

[8:05] is as strong as our weakest member. If we offer a helping hand and lift them

[8:11] up, we will all be strong and we will all benefit. This preventative approach

[8:16] is the priority at in your strategic plan and forms the core of our legacy

[8:22] blueprint program. Our legacy blueprint program embodies this principle as a

[8:28] traumainformed data generating program. It specifically equips parents and

[8:34] caregivers right here in Langley with the psychological tools to interrupt

[8:39] cycles of instability and critical relationship concerns. This program is

[8:45] designed to ensure it generates vital hyper local data for from participants

[8:51] which Lucky Life Society processes and translates into actual actionable

[8:58] insights for collaborating collaborative planning.

[9:03] This distinct service delivery focuses on upstream solutions directly

[9:10] supporting the city's goal of proactive rather than reactive community

[9:14] management counselors. Our program is generating metrics based on the

[9:21] Icelantic uh preventative model which is um uh endorsed by the federal government

[9:27] which shows that 82% of all participants report a clinical significant increase

[9:34] in household stability and reduces um reliance on crisis intervention

[9:40] services within six months. This data coupled with Lucky Life's on the ground

[9:46] expertise and direct engagement with families is the missing piece required

[9:51] to write a truly effective unified community safety plan. If we take this

[9:57] proactive approach today, the large problems that will undoubtedly arrive

[10:03] with the sky train route will not be ours.

[10:07] By addressing these challenges through datainformed strategies, we safeguard

[10:12] taxpayer dollars and create a more predictable, resilient environment for

[10:17] local businesses directly supporting the city's economic well-being. We are not

[10:24] asking for money today. We are only um um requesting or proposing a formal

[10:31] strategic partnership. Our goal is to leverage our data and our strategy to

[10:37] build a unified community plan in collaboration with city planning,

[10:42] community service staff, and engaging business partners. Lucky Life's role is

[10:47] pivotal by creating a direct from community insights, an effective

[10:54] traumainformed intervention meth methodology that forms

[10:59] the foundation of a proactive plan. This collaborative ma model is precisely the

[11:05] integrated approach identified in your plan for effective service delivery. We

[11:12] get to make the choices now that will create and ensure community legacy

[11:17] continues in the city of Langley. Investing in preventative prevention

[11:22] saves dollars and strengthen lives. Lucky Life Society is committed to the

[11:27] collection and application of this vital da d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d

[11:30] d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d da and framework to help you build the

[11:33] strongest possible safety net for the city of Langley. Our direct request is

[11:38] that council directs a member of the city planning and invites community

[11:43] service staff to meet with us and formally establish a scope of

[11:47] deliverables that for this community plan. Lucky Life has already requested

[11:53] that the township of Langley and the RCMP agree to meet with us for this this

[11:59] purpose. We intend to take action ensuring that

[12:04] the plan integrates shared data, proactive planning, and our proven

[12:08] traumainformed service delivery with all the relevant city and business partners

[12:15] within the area with Lucky Light recognized as an essential active

[12:20] contributor to its success. Thank you for your leadership and thank you for

[12:25] committing to a safer, more inclusive Langley and for the legacy we will leave

[12:30] behind us. Thank you. >> Uh thank you so much for your

[12:33] presentation. I want to see if there's any questions council uh councelor

[12:37] Wallace. >> Um thank you so much for attending today

[12:41] and all the advocacy work you're doing. It's really um important. Trauma

[12:45] informed practice um is very important. I just um wanted to maybe say is there a

[12:52] way that we could encourage a meeting with um our social planner of initiative

[12:58] uh strategic initiatives um Kay who's working a lot with mapping and data uh

[13:03] to see if that you could meet with her and share what you're doing um the lucky

[13:07] life society and I think you'll you'll see that we're on on the the same page

[13:13] and moving forward. >> Yeah. I mean I don't think we need a

[13:16] motion but motions are good. So if you wanted to do that, you could move that

[13:21] the council um request that be McKay Beno meet with

[13:26] » um the love lead society. >> If I can move that.

[13:31] » Sure. So seconded by councelor Mac [clears throat] and is there any

[13:35] discussion on that? Seeing any follow question on that all

[13:40] in favor? It's unanimous but there's still

[13:44] opportunity for for questions on this too.

[13:46] » Yeah. I I just uh I really appreciate your work, right? It takes a lot and uh

[13:52] it's very emotional work. Um you know, especially when you talk about um the

[13:57] amount of overdoses that we're facing and the ongoing struggle with trying to

[14:02] find um you know, adequate resources helping people struggling in in a lot of

[14:08] different areas. So, it takes a lot of courage to be here, but I I really feel

[14:12] that you will be impressed in the work that Langley City and us as a council

[14:16] are doing in in in line with what you're doing.

[14:20] » Thank you, >> uh, Council White.

[14:24] » Thank you, Mayor Ball. Um, yeah, I just wanted to thank you for your

[14:27] presentation. Uh, welcome to the community. I How long

[14:32] have you been in the community now? >> We moved here August 1st.

[14:35] » Oh, moved here August 1. So impress me. >> Yeah.

[14:38] » Welcome [laughter] uh welcome to our community and uh I

[14:42] thank you for uh just your passion and your commitment to uh providing the kind

[14:49] of services and trauma informed services that you're

[14:53] uh uh providing. Um, as with Councelor Wallace's comments, I think you'll find

[14:59] a uh we're we're very much on the same page and we're trying to work

[15:04] proactively and you'll find a host of um service providers that uh will be open

[15:13] to working with you as well. So, uh it's very embracing community that way. So,

[15:20] thank you. >> Thank you very much. I just wanted to

[15:25] say thank you so much for coming and for presenting. Um also welcome to the

[15:29] community and I look forward to building you a bit more of a relationship um as

[15:33] time goes on. Um and just I wanted to reinforce um again you strategic

[15:39] partnerships that we can make um are so valuable. So thank you for coming and

[15:43] introducing yourself and I look forward to the further discussions. Excellent.

[15:47] Thank you. >> Uh any other questions or comments?

[15:51] So I I think again a lot of good things have been said and I really appreciate

[15:56] the time you took to come and speak with us and uh forward to further dialogue.

[16:00] » Excellent. I look forward to it also. Thank you so much

[16:03] » and you're more than welcome to stay or you're more than welcome to get on with

[16:06] your evening whatever you >> Thank you.

[16:12] » So with that uh we'll move on to item 98.

[16:16] So that is our next regularly scheduled meetings or November 17th followed by

[16:20] December 1st. Uh is there any council advisory updates? Um of which we don't

[16:27] receive minutes uh that you defended the counselor walls. So, if I may, it's not

[16:33] a meeting I attended, but I know with the strategic um goals that the library

[16:39] board is doing, which I do sit on, um they're working with, you know, climate

[16:43] action. Um >> so, I just wanted to mention, and it's

[16:47] very short notice, but uh an energy savings workshop will be held um in the

[16:53] library downstairs, Tuesday, November 4th from 6:00 to 7:30. Yeah. Reducing

[16:59] energy consumption can result in noticeable changes to com home comfort,

[17:03] efficiency, and affordability. From learning how to read energy bills and

[17:07] discovering energy saving measures and install installation techniques, this

[17:12] workshop empowers participants by offering basic energy efficiency and

[17:17] home safety education. Um this workshop is presented by empower me um drop drop

[17:24] in program for all ages. So, I just wanted that align with our, you know,

[17:28] our climate action and really proud that they have that the staff is taking on

[17:32] that climate action. >> Yeah. Thank you for that FBRL update.

[17:37] Uh, is there any others? Seeing none, then we'll go over to item

[17:43] 10 A. So, we do have a recommendation that uh the board is for the report and

[17:48] then we can see if there's any questions on the report and then go from there. So

[17:52] the recommendation is that the report dated October 20th, 2025,

[17:57] title proposed pharmacy separation regulation amendment for 2033

[18:03] Avenue be received for information. Is there a second? Move by councelor

[18:07] Wallace, seconded by councelor Alrech. Uh is there any questions or comments on

[18:12] the report? Councelor M.

[18:16] » Thank you. I think that um I just want to clarify because I know that I

[18:20] oftentimes take a hard line in terms of OCP adherence and I do believe that we

[18:25] should be upholding our policies. Um so that's the general stance that I

[18:29] typically come from when assessing this. However, in looking at the recommended

[18:33] deviation, it is to permit a pharmacy to um be placed at the same place as a

[18:38] doctor's office. So I felt that in terms of use, this makes a lot of sense. Um so

[18:43] I am in support of it. I just wanted to clarify.

[18:46] » Thank you. Uh we'll go to councelor Wallace and councelor life.

[18:50] » I'm in total agreeance with councelor Mack when I read uh the report and the

[18:56] connection um and that one-stop service, not just it wasn't just about the

[19:01] pharmacy. I think it's the collective resources and the things that they'll be

[19:05] doing is really positive. >> Councelor White.

[19:09] » Thank you, Mayor Bahal. Um I would uh agree with both my council colleagues in

[19:15] terms of uh their opinions on this. I think my only question um would be uh

[19:22] directed to Mr. Johansson if I could in terms of how will the city ensure that

[19:29] it remains ancillary um and not eventually develop into a

[19:37] standalone practice within that unit. Um and so that would be my question.

[19:44] » Yes. To the mayor, councelor White. And um just before before I answer that, um

[19:49] if council does give this first say it goes to public hearing, the applicant

[19:53] will be there and they can present their proposal and answer detailed questions

[19:58] as well. But on the staff perspective, um if [clears throat] if it is I mean

[20:03] they are permitted to have that right now. uh what they what they need to do

[20:08] in order to enact that uh is bring in that building permit. Of course, as part

[20:12] of that building permit, if the pharmacy is approved, we will see that on the

[20:16] building plans and the size that we expect that. So, that's one way for us

[20:21] to ensure that their proposed size of the pharmacy, which I believe is 900

[20:26] square feet out 500 square feet. So, it is

[20:31] uh one way of doing it. we can also uh put a their business license as

[20:36] something. >> So yeah,

[20:39] » great. Thank you. >> Thank you.

[20:41] » Any other questions on the report? Uh so just uh I guess a quick one for me

[20:48] for clarification. and you said it was a auxiliary use and um

[20:53] there would be no way that this would be able to be switched in the future and

[20:58] this is not going to be like a shop as far as you know this is not like a

[21:02] shopper drug isn't the right example but like a we had a pharmacy that was near

[21:07] there and I won't mention the name but it was adjacent to a doctor's office but

[21:11] it also very much was a retail operation in your opinion is this that kind of

[21:17] retail operation or is it sort of something that is actually an auxiliary

[21:22] use and the place and is primarily a medical

[21:26] » uh yes in response to question my understanding and based on the

[21:30] applicants model staff here Mr. for talent cough can

[21:35] provide more context if if be and again as some adult presented that public

[21:41] hearing this gets first and second is that it's part of a family medical

[21:46] practice it's meant to be something that's direct dispense they probably

[21:50] will have some products for sale but it won't be at the same scale as you know

[21:56] or something like that or an independent pharmacy that supports medical practice

[22:02] uh they've got a few of these uh server set up and again it's something

[22:08] that um you know with the we have a a building permit that will come in expect

[22:14] we'll see uh the drawings and the space that's

[22:18] constructed

[22:22] um the other aspect is again in terms of the business licenses

[22:27] the allocation space so

[22:32] we'll be also monitoring So we're confident this is going to be

[22:38] » Thank you so much uh councelor Albert. >> Yeah. Uh thank you. Thank you for this

[22:43] and and um with the information given and I'm supportive of it. I'm a little

[22:49] leery. So if we could get um say um some information on the current models that

[22:57] they're running in Siri, you you preface those just so that we can maybe look

[23:02] into that. And I I don't want the applicant to get their hopes up because

[23:07] if they're not doing what they're portraying or what we're thinking

[23:11] they're doing, that could be turned down.

[23:15] » Thank you. Um so just for clarity for anybody who's attending, um it's not an

[23:20] opportunity for anybody attending to speak. It's just for counsel or for

[23:23] staff. Um did you have any follow? >> Yeah. So just coun we'll have them

[23:29] present their their model, their case. Again,

[23:34] one thing we're considering again is is on the aspect of our stock right now

[23:40] that they're really there to support.

[23:46] » So, any other questions on the report? See none on the report. I'll see if we

[23:51] can get councelor James after I'll call a question on the report. All those in

[23:54] favor receiving the report. All those opposed. That's not opposed. That

[23:59] carries unanimously. We're on to the amendment. So the recommendation is that

[24:04] the bylaw cited as zoning bylaw 1996 number 2100 amendment number 221 202.5

[24:11] number 3322 be read a first and second time is a secondary. So move by

[24:16] councelor M by council. Any further discussion on bylaw?

[24:23] So, I know it's been stated, but just in the bylaw section, you know, uh I was

[24:28] here when we put in the pharmacy distancing because there was a large

[24:33] amount ofies in our area from more of a retail perspective that was taking away

[24:38] from the active storefront, which I think is something we've been trying to

[24:42] really promote in our community, engaging active storefronts. Uh for me

[24:47] with this one, uh confirmation of what we'll hear from the applicant. I'm

[24:52] generally supportive of this if indeed it's an excellent use and knowing where

[24:55] it's located. It is a current office building that isn't an active retail

[25:00] use. So that gives me comfort with giving this person a second. But I

[25:04] certainly look forward to to getting more because uh you know spot zoning is

[25:08] something I know we've done and for good reasons for certain things but when we

[25:12] do it I just want to be really certain uh that there's a clear for me that

[25:16] there's a clear um rationale for that. those uh seeing I don't think there's

[25:21] any other comments I'll call the question on first and second all those

[25:24] in favor there any opposed there's none opposed so that's carried unanimously we

[25:30] are on to a few things here for uh community plan

[25:39] uh bylaw number 3319 public consultation requirements so this is for

[25:46] consideration of the proposed use building bylaw and this sets out the um

[25:54] public consultation or or a stakeholder consultation process. I don't

[25:59] necessarily want to read all of this, but if um I'm happy to if somebody wants

[26:04] to, but for just the recommendations and 10B, not the actual zoning bylaw. Um I'd

[26:10] love to move it as it's presented here in our agenda. Is there a seconder

[26:15] seconded by councelor Alrech? Is there any discussion on that consultation

[26:20] side? Please go ahead. >> Thank you. I know that um a lot of this

[26:24] is really the tenants in section 475 of the local government act. But what I do

[26:28] hear from our indigenous partners is that they feel that they get

[26:32] consultation kind of late in the game at the stage of say first and second

[26:36] readings already being given bylaw. Um, so I just I wanted to flag that uh as we

[26:42] are looking at our policies and our practices, if we could ensure that um

[26:46] they're going to our indigenous partners prior to even consideration of first and

[26:51] second. I think that that would be a really good way to build relationships

[26:54] and ensure that they're not getting a three/4er baked potato and said hope you

[26:59] like potato. Do you like potato? Um that's all to say.

[27:06] » Uh or Mr. Just um thank [clears throat] you

[27:09] through the mayor councelor. Thank you. Um all of these um agencies for first

[27:15] nations and agencies we have to them already. Uh but take it.

[27:21] » Thank you. >> Yeah, I know there's always that early

[27:23] and often work that goes on. Um councelor Wallace. Um, if I may, I I

[27:29] mean, I don't know if it's too late, but um, just for our public, I think it will

[27:34] be important to um, name our the connections that we are going to be be

[27:40] making if if that's the the list of um, because I think it's important that our

[27:47] our our public knows that the partnerships that we will be engaging,

[27:51] right, in regards to that. >> For sure. I I mean it certainly will be

[27:54] in the agenda, but uh you're more than welcome to name the folks that are being

[27:59] consulted here >> and I appreciate that our um indigenous

[28:02] uh partners are at the top of the list in regards to Ky First Nation, Quantland

[28:07] First Nation, Matte First Nation, San Miami First Nation, City of Suri,

[28:11] Township of Langley, Metro Vancouver, School District number 35 and Translink.

[28:16] Thank you for allowing me to do that. >> Yeah, thank you so much. Any further

[28:20] discussion on that section? Cool. See no call question. All those in

[28:25] favor? Any opposed? So there's none opposed. So that's carried. Now we're on

[28:30] to the actual bylaw. So you do have the recommendation here uh that the bylaw

[28:34] cited at city of Langley official community plan bylaw 2021 number 2300

[28:41] amendment um sorry 3200 amendment to 2025 number 319

[28:48] secondary by councelor white seconded by councelor

[28:52] any questions on this part seeing one call the question all those

[28:57] in favor so there's none opposed so that's carried So that brings us to the

[29:02] actual introduction of the new zoning bylaw. Now uh that the bylaw cited at

[29:07] city of Langley zoning bylaw 2025 number 3300 we read it first and second time.

[29:12] Uh so moved by councelor white seconded by councelor Wallace. Is there

[29:16] discussion on this?

[29:20] Oh councelor Alrech. If I could, I just I just wanted to thank staff for really

[29:25] putting together a document that really goes into a detailed explanation of what

[29:30] we're doing and how we're moving forward. So, uh I think it's really

[29:33] clear and and concise and provides the public with uh answers to any concerns

[29:40] that they may have. So, I just want to express my appreciation to staff.

[29:47] » Any other discussion? So, I'm not seeing any. And uh just so

[29:51] people know, this is the first go at this. We've had a lot of discussion over

[29:55] the last three years really on the zoning bylaw. Uh and I understand Mr.

[30:00] Johansson that if council does decide to move forward with the final adoption of

[30:04] this after going through the due process, uh there'll be further

[30:08] refinements based on feedback we've heard from council over the last couple

[30:12] years as well. So, with that, I will call the question. All those in favor?

[30:16] Is there any opposed? So, uh, there's none opposed, so that's carried

[30:20] unanimously. Uh, brings us to the yard waist pilot update, which we have a

[30:25] report in our agenda, and there are two recommendations that I will read and see

[30:29] if there's over a secondary. That the yard waist pilot project be extended to

[30:34] November 30th, 2025. that staff be directed to coate the data from the yard

[30:39] wastist pilot project which ends on October 31st, 2025 and report back to

[30:45] council on potentially incorporating excess yard waste collection into the

[30:49] solid waste organis collection contract on a permanent basis including levels of

[30:54] service as well as associated costs in a second there. So moved by councelor

[30:58] Solium, seconded by councelor Alrech. Is there discussion on this one? Councelor

[31:02] Wallace >> just [clears throat] that I'm glad to

[31:04] see this moving forward. Um it's I think it's been very popular. I know that

[31:09] we've staff is trying to you know read out the things that uh um with the

[31:15] citizens of Lane that are receiving this. So um just want to thank staff um

[31:20] and uh council for um their dedication and interest in in delivering this

[31:25] service to our residents. So I look forward to it becoming an ongoing thing.

[31:30] Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh is there any other

[31:33] discussion councing?

[31:37] Um is there a limit to the amount of during this pilot? Was there any limits

[31:42] to the amount of uh paper bags in addition to the bin?

[31:48] » Transfer know and for the purpose of the pilot project.

[31:53] » Perfect. Thank you. Any other questions? So just a question for me. Um, I was

[31:59] just reading the report here too and it said that we collected is about excess

[32:03] from about 100 to 150 houses per day. How many I guess in a week then are we

[32:09] talking about of the 3,000 plus people that receive this? Is it like 300 that

[32:16] are getting the extra stuff or is it everybody? Um, as [clears throat] a

[32:20] percentage maybe Mr. Mayor is one of the things we we

[32:25] haven't as we mentioned the report we haven't got the full data because it's

[32:28] strictly speaking as last Friday that we would have completed that first month.

[32:33] » So those kind of that kind of detail I hope for the council was part of the

[32:37] next state. >> I appreciate that. So seeing that I

[32:41] don't any other Oh councelor white please go ahead.

[32:44] » Thank you mayoral to the mayor. Um,

[32:49] first thing on the top of my head is uh just to thank staff for the amount of

[32:56] coordination that's been involved and uh dealing with residents who have I guess

[33:03] a number of questions and concerns through the whole process. And uh

[33:07] whenever something kicks off the first time around, there's always extra

[33:13] uh concerns and things to be addressed. Um, I do have a question and it it um

[33:20] pertains to the bins themselves and and uh that that relates to I I understand

[33:28] reading through the documentation and that uh the the bends are sourced uh in

[33:35] the US and so I'm concerned about growing additional fees that may come

[33:40] with that tariffs uh exchange rates all those things. Um, are there plans to

[33:47] address this in the future foreseeable future um to keep our cost

[33:54] as minimal as possible um for that? So the chair and first to your first point,

[34:03] councelor White, I I'd like to recognize the efforts of a lot of people at city

[34:08] hall from our communications folks through to our front counter staff have

[34:14] been taking um phone calls and people at the front counter. So there's been a lot

[34:20] of effort put in and I think um uh I'm aware of implementation in other

[34:27] municipalities and I think going to a new technology it has been

[34:34] really very smooth. It's not without hasn't been without issues but it hasn't

[34:39] in terms of a new service that actually has been

[34:43] quite effectively and I do givea credit for that as well. The issue

[34:48] around the bins or the totes is uh your concern is one of the reason that we've

[34:54] been working with them. We're trying to make sure that we can cut down on things

[34:59] like shipping cost by incorporating into their larger because they they service

[35:04] other municipalities throughout British Columbia and across Canada. So, we're

[35:09] trying to make sure that the number of bids that we do bring in really are

[35:14] maybe part of a larger shipment that comes in as part of a larger order. You

[35:19] know, we initially got 7,000 bins in which, you know, you keep in the back of

[35:24] semi trucks. That's not going to be the case as such, but the life

[35:28] [clears throat] the life of one of these totes should

[35:31] really um extend through the entire length of the contract. So really once

[35:37] we have this the sizing issue sorted out we really expect that apart from having

[35:42] a small number in reserve that we shouldn't really see this problem

[35:50] any other questions see none I'll call this all those in

[35:55] favor I can so that's carried unanimously

[35:59] uh we are on to motion so we have the Fraser Valley Library board appointment

[36:04] so there's what we did last year there. So there's the opportunity to move that.

[36:08] Also, if anybody wants to do a nomination, vote by ballot, that's an

[36:12] option as well. Anybody wants that? So I'm not seeing

[36:17] any. So there is the recommendation here. Then I'll just read out that

[36:21] councelor Rosemary Wallace be appointed to the Fraser Valley Regional Library

[36:24] Board for 2026 and that councelor Delaney Mack be appointed as a move and

[36:29] second. So moved by councelor White, seconded by councelor. Any discussion?

[36:35] But I see no discussion for this one. So I'll call the question. All those in

[36:38] favor. That's unanimous. Uh same thing for the

[36:43] next one. There's this caring over from last year. If people would like to do a

[36:47] nomination process, we can do that as well.

[36:52] So nobody wants that. So we have the recommendation here that councelor

[36:56] Paulre be appointed to the Metro Vancouver board of directors for 2026.

[37:01] that councelor Rosemary Wallace be appointed as the alternate. Is there a

[37:05] second? So moved by councelor Solium, seconded by councelor White. Is there

[37:09] any discussion? >> Thank you.

[37:14] Um on April 7th, our CEO Francis Cham informed the members of council um and

[37:20] the public that a legal opinion determined that council had to be

[37:23] operating in contraction of the local government act because it was dually

[37:27] held the venture bank position as well as his township appointing staffing

[37:31] position. As I understand um it communicated operated in this role with

[37:37] the um the existing prevention. My understanding is for two years prior to

[37:41] this determination just based upon his employment and when he was appointed by

[37:46] council um Mr. Chung also informed council at this meeting um as well as

[37:52] the public that the taxpayer paid for the legal costs associated with the

[37:56] situation. Uh we have seen the cost impacts from um the cost distributions

[38:03] of the Northshore wastewater treatment facility.

[38:06] Councelor Alrech in conqu voted to distribute the costs that Lang

[38:12] City residents are shouldering now. >> Yes. So is there a point of order there?

[38:18] What's this got to do with >> this is with regards to my

[38:20] determinational appointment? So it's related. So I'll make my determination.

[38:25] » Okay. >> Thank you. Um so um that city residents

[38:30] will be shouldering for the next 15year amortization period. Um, and this is a

[38:34] courtesy that uh other municipally elective vehicles did not extend to the

[38:40] Langley or to Langley City. Um, when the Anesus Island wastewater treatment

[38:44] facility was constructed uh over and above these cost impacts um the happy

[38:50] children by Langley City residents, counceloract was voting and advocating

[38:54] for a much higher cost distribution percentage. So for me um I have a lot of

[39:00] concerns. I have unanswered questions regarding Mr. CH's report on April 7th.

[39:04] Um, as well, I have concerns regarding the distri the decision to distribute

[39:09] costs for the Northshore wastewater treatment facility. Um, so I will not be

[39:13] supporting uh councelor Alra's uh appointment to the Metro Vancouver uh

[39:18] board. I did um on the April 7th meeting um attempt to nominate numerous other

[39:27] members of council um which was not supported by the council majority. So I

[39:31] don't wish to waste everybody's time by going through the same repetitive

[39:34] process. Um so I I do feel that I'm left at a position where um I I simply have

[39:40] to vote for the appointment. >> Thank you. Um was there any feedback you

[39:46] have >> um to the mayor? Um the only feedback

[39:50] that would happen is that we receive a letter uh from the Metro Vancouver uh

[39:56] actually township mayor reminding us of this situation and consequently as a

[40:02] municipality we sought legal advice in terms how to deal with this issue. So it

[40:07] is fair and appropriate for the city to pay for the legal advice to address this

[40:13] issue appropriately and fairly. Thank you. And so I'll add myself to the

[40:19] speaking list. I think that uh they're very supportive of the decisions that

[40:24] councelor Albert has made on behalf of this council and so I believe he's

[40:29] represented our views or as a council on that committee. I know the decisions on

[40:35] the Northshore wastewater treatment plan was a very difficult one and certainly

[40:39] the majority of people on the Metro Vancouver board landed at this

[40:43] discussion and I think that speaks to uh councelor Alrech being aligned with

[40:48] majority opinion given the difficult nature of how we tackle these regional

[40:53] issues. So, I I really commend him for the effort and work um that he did

[40:58] representing our city on that board and making that difficult decision on how we

[41:02] balance uh both the Northshore wastewater treatment with the rest of

[41:06] the region is probably a position I would have taken if I was in the same

[41:10] shoes as him. So, certainly very supportive of his work um on the board.

[41:16] I think councelor Wallace >> um I'm not going to reiterate about the

[41:19] north uh water waste treatment plant. Um it's been talked about several times um

[41:25] why we reached where we did but I'm just going to speak in regards to my

[41:30] colleague and I stepped in um and when councelor Albbrrook had to step down and

[41:36] um he informed me and shared his knowledge as he always does. I look up

[41:42] to him in his responsibilities in representing um the city of Wangley on

[41:48] metro. I feel very um grateful that he is there. he is on the governance. I

[41:52] know that is really important to them to him and he is on that. I just want to

[41:57] say that uh the amount of um dedication and work and uh reading that goes into

[42:03] what we do on Metro Vancouver is a lot and that the relationships that we form

[42:08] um with other um members uh is is very important and I I really respect um the

[42:16] work that uh councelor Albrech has done on Metro Vancouver and brings back to

[42:20] the city. Well, seeing nothing further, uh,

[42:25] councelor Albright, sorry, go ahead. >> Yeah, I just I just want to touch on on

[42:28] one thing. When we're when we're dealing with uh regional services, especially in

[42:34] Metro Vancouver, it's extremely important to develop relationships,

[42:40] nurture relationships, and build those. Um, that's a challenge in some in some

[42:45] regards. Uh and and we have in Metro Vancouver five sewage treatment

[42:53] facilities. Every one of them requires upgrades.

[42:58] Every one of them is not seismically uh acceptable.

[43:03] Every one of them is not uh floodproof because of climate change. So each and

[43:10] every one of these wastewater facilities is going to require

[43:15] significant upgrades. We're talking multibillion dollar delves. So if we

[43:22] don't come to the table and share the burden and start having those

[43:26] conversations about how we share those costs as a region and as a population,

[43:33] we're going to be in real trouble. So anyways, um I'm proud of the work I do.

[43:38] Uh, I'm proud of what I bring to, uh, Metro Vancouver. Uh, I'm proud to

[43:44] represent the city. I will always do what's best for the city and I will

[43:48] continue to do so despite other people's feelings. So, thank you all and I

[43:54] appreciate the support. >> So, I'm not seeing any other questions

[43:58] or comments. I'll call the question on that. All those in favor? Any opposed?

[44:02] So, councelor Maxost. So, that's carried. Uh, we are on to the next

[44:06] motion which is for councelor Max. Over to you.

[44:09] » Thank you, Georgia. Um, so this motion reads annual cost of consulting

[44:14] contracts in the city. Um, I can read it out. Um, it reads that council direct

[44:20] staff to present council with a detailed breakdown of all consulting contracts

[44:24] and their purpose, including utilization by department 2023, 2024, and 2025 year

[44:29] to date. and that council directs staff to present council with a detailed

[44:33] breakdown of all anticipated consulting expenditures and their purpose,

[44:36] including anticipated expenditures by department included in the 2026

[44:41] financial plan. And that council direct staff present this information at a

[44:45] regular meeting of council prior to the regular meeting of council for first and

[44:49] second reading of the 2026 financial plan will be considered.

[44:54] » Is there a second? So, I'm not seeing any one seconding

[45:00] this. Uh, so the next one, um, did you still

[45:04] want to move forward with that given that it's been handled?

[45:08] » Uh, no, but maybe I don't know if I should just clarify like the process

[45:11] just because I did I just wanted to say I messaged staff before submitting this

[45:15] on the 18th and then was told that the waste extension puppy or the waste pilot

[45:21] contract would not be extended. Um, which is why I submitted this motion.

[45:25] » Okay. So I can withdraw but >> okay just wanted to clarify.

[45:28] » Perfect. >> So we are withdrawing that. Thank you so

[45:31] much. Uh so clad a sorry that came out wrong. 12 a clad.

[45:37] » Okay. So um I do have a couple amendments that have been provided by

[45:41] the corporate officer but um I guess I'll just um

[45:49] so the title is grass restoration and the shaper beetle. Um maybe I'll see if

[45:54] I get a second prior to >> Yeah, I'll second it.

[45:57] » Um and then I do immediately have a recommendation before potentially

[46:00] speaking to uh the original if I can get um a seconder for that. Um and the

[46:07] recommendation um is just to change the wording.

[46:10] » Yeah. So sorry, just for clarity, uh we moved and seconded the original motion

[46:14] here, right? And now you're putting forward an amendment.

[46:17] » Yeah, exactly. Um the corporate officer pro provided me some wording that she

[46:21] wanted me to replace. um just to adhere to best practices um and we didn't have

[46:26] time to coordinate that prior to um sitting to be. So the the um it would be

[46:31] moved to have the motion uh reflect the language whereas city maintained grass

[46:38] across the community has been decimated by raccoons and crows on the hunt for

[46:43] shape shaper beetle grubs. And whereas several residents have expressed a

[46:49] concern to a council or member of council over the extended period of time

[46:54] that grass has been in disarray and whereas there are ways to mitigate the

[46:58] impact of the shaper be and then as read.

[47:01] » Okay written sorry >> I'll second that. So uh any discussion

[47:07] on the amendment and then we can go back to like so I would unless people have a

[47:10] problem with the wording we'll talk about that if it's just a discussion on

[47:14] the actual amended thing then we'll go back to that. So just on is there any

[47:18] wording questions or dialogue seeing and I'll call a question on the

[47:23] amendments. So all in favor is there any opposed? So there's none opposed. I

[47:28] don't I think that was in favor of the amendments. Uh so now we're on to the

[47:32] main motion. Get out my timer.

[47:55] All right. So, um, just going to try to So, brass restoration and the Schaffer

[48:02] Beetle. So, I'm trying to figure this out. Okay.

[48:06] So, in case I mean, I presume that other members of council are familiar with the

[48:10] Shaper Beetle. Generally speaking, you've probably seen it. However, uh we

[48:14] are seeing the impacts of the European shaver beetle. Um they're an invasive

[48:19] species and they're problematic specifically because they're um they lay

[48:23] eggs in the roots um and soil of grass and then ultimately they hatch into

[48:29] larae which eats um they eat the uh roots of the grass.

[48:35] got a little photo there to show the hug.

[48:38] Um, insult to injury is added, so to speak, because then you have raccoons

[48:43] that come that tear up the grass because they're trying to get to the food

[48:46] source. So, once the grass is turned over, obviously, it's unsightly, it's

[48:51] messy, and then further um the crows come and fling fling around soil um

[48:59] and create additional mess.

[49:03] How did this come to be and come to my attention? I've seen it around the

[49:06] community, but I also had um a specifically a resident and met for um

[49:10] additional residents mention or ask me to come and go for a walk um with them

[49:15] and they showed me um the state of some of the medians and some of the city

[49:19] maintained grass um and expressed to me that they've been in the state for a

[49:23] number of months. Um so I just have some photos to um show council uh colleagues

[49:29] generally what I was seeing. So you can see obviously here

[49:36] see there's a a crow that I caught um here you see just I mean obviously

[49:43] like I have this this street of the year here in 96. Um I think it's important

[49:47] that we have publicity pride. We're maintaining to the best of our ability

[49:51] and then um if we do note um issues as counselors that we bring those forward

[49:55] to look at whether or not we're adequately resourcing our departments

[49:59] and if there's any other strategies that uh we should be considering.

[50:04] So then getting to um the point of this motion, um I think that it is important

[50:09] and prudent that council requests staff to look at mitigating measures that are

[50:14] currently being implemented um as well as further measures that we can explore.

[50:19] Um from there, look at um capital costs if necessary as well as resourcing um

[50:25] and specifically capital costs um to replace the patches of grass that we're

[50:29] seeing right now that are damaged. Um, and then I guess in closing, because

[50:33] there might be a capital cost, um, I think it's important that we have the

[50:36] these um, this information um, and this presentation prior to consideration of

[50:40] the 2026 financial plan bylaw so we can look at potential amendments.

[50:46] » Thank you. >> Um, and then I'll just stop this pan

[50:50] there if there's any comments. So, uh, councelor Walls,

[50:54] » um, thank you for bringing that to our attention. I'm sure we've all seen the

[50:58] shaper bug and what it's been doing to our community and it's actually been

[51:02] around for quite a long time. It hasn't just been the last couple of years. Um

[51:07] if I know that Metro Vancouver through Diamond Head Consulting has done an

[51:12] extensive report um in invasive species coming up with a lot of deliver

[51:17] deliverables in ways that we can um approach um

[51:24] say tackling it because I see the crows and raccoons are already doing that.

[51:27] That's the natural thing to do. I know that it's a nuisance. Um, I want to just

[51:32] uh commend this the city in regards to um looking at measures when it comes to

[51:37] planting and and and doing different things on boulevards rather than

[51:42] planting grass. And a perfect example is the plants that they put down on the

[51:46] oneway and around the corner on 206. And that is maybe an avenue that we um

[51:51] should be looking at. Um also that there are many municipalities that have

[51:56] already done the work. So in in saying that I think um there won't be a huge uh

[52:01] capital cost in the sense of like I think the way that we should approach

[52:05] this and I'm going to ask um I don't know how to do that this is this be um

[52:12] deferred not referred um to the environmental sustainability committee

[52:18] because on that committee we have uh um have hired um a sustainability

[52:24] coordinator that took some time to do that and I think So you made a referral.

[52:30] » So seconded by councelor Alrech, please continue on.

[52:33] » And I just and for the the good fortune of uh our committee also with expertise

[52:39] that are on our committee. We have the uh langly field naturalists that are sit

[52:43] on that committee and we have the mainly environmental partnerships um who work

[52:47] extensively with invasive species and um that's one of their their strategic

[52:54] goals that they do. So, I'm just like um I I'm thank thank uh council Matt for

[52:59] bringing this forward. Um I just think um in regards to uh it it might take

[53:05] some time um and looking at and and it's ever changing like in reading Diamond

[53:11] Consulting's report is that they're coming up with new ways. For instance,

[53:16] um cutting your grass too short is is something that we we shouldn't be doing.

[53:20] It should grass should be at a it should be at at higher, right? because they

[53:24] love it when it's really damp and and then also when it comes to uh water

[53:30] restrictions, right? There's some because you know between a certain time

[53:33] you're not allowed to be watering your gu your your yard. So there's that

[53:37] pieces as well. So there's a lot of different um things that we need to look

[53:42] at and wondering the expertise of that committee and our sustainability

[53:45] coordinator and um Mr. to pull it that maybe we can work on a community to move

[53:51] forward and and um take care of some of this.

[53:54] » Okay. Um counc >> um just speaking

[53:59] to council Wallace um to the referral um I'm actually not opposed to the referral

[54:04] because I think that um as you've spoken that it's a lot of expertise and I think

[54:08] that resources that we have especially cost effective ones such as our

[54:11] committees. Um but the only um caveat that I do have is that there are a

[54:16] couple of that clauses that I think would be undermining maybe which is

[54:21] specifically um the cost to replace the damaged city brass and the timeline to

[54:27] restore it to its prior state. I think that might be challenging to fulfill on

[54:31] a committee level and then additionally to get that information to replace the

[54:35] damaged city grass um with the financial plan file by off. Um I so I wonder if

[54:41] maybe um there could be an option to sever out some of the enactment clauses

[54:46] so that generally the motion and larger mitigating measures which will take time

[54:50] are >> so sorry please continue interrupt.

[54:55] » Yeah just just like so that it can be sent away but we still can get the cost

[55:01] to actually replace the grass um so that it's not you know in the state for an

[55:05] extended period of time and so we have that budget. So, I'll add myself to the

[55:09] the speaking order. I haven't spoken yet on this. So, I I'm supportive of the

[55:14] referral. I'm also mindful that if it's referred, there's clauses in there that

[55:18] won't be able to be fulfilled. Um, that uh is okay. It'll come back to council

[55:24] uh once it's done with recommendations from the committee in this motion. So,

[55:28] you know, for me, you're supporting the referral. I understand we're not going

[55:31] to get it in time for this budget, but I also don't think this is something that

[55:34] we can rush through anyhow because there's a ton of work on it and even the

[55:39] recommendations here may not be the appropriate one. So for me, I'm

[55:43] supporting the referral for that reason, mind blindfold that, you know, some of

[55:47] these things may not be able to be action. So I see that council walls has

[55:52] your hands up and then council >> and then and just speaking to the um

[55:56] that council direct staff to report back to council regarding the required

[55:59] capital. Um so I'm understanding like when I just

[56:03] spoke about doing things you know what if it comes up as a strategic initiative

[56:09] um with with our committee that let's look at boulevards and look let's look

[56:13] how we plant boulevards instead of replacing grass. Let's te let's teach

[56:17] people that you know in your yards what you you could be doing instead of grass.

[56:21] I think there's a lot of teachings and learnings from this and yes it's a big

[56:24] concern. It looks horrible but I think um in this in in the sense of

[56:30] we're trying to mitigate it and I mean to eradicate it would be awesome but it

[56:35] it'll take some time. So I'm looking at different ways. So going back to our

[56:40] committee and and seeing what we can do. I think I I I agree.

[56:44] » Thank you. So, I'll give councelor Matt the last word because I'm not seeing any

[56:48] other people with questions and then I will call the referral motion.

[56:51] » Just a question. I know to put forward an amendment to the referral motion.

[56:55] » Uh, it's a referral. So, you can amend the referral as far as I know. Well, you

[57:00] can amend the refer

[57:07] you can amend the referral if there is part of the referral part that you would

[57:12] want to change. I think that makes it easier.

[57:15] » Uh, right.

[57:21] Yes. So, you can amend as part of the referral.

[57:24] » So, then I would move an amendment. Um is that council um refer to or refer the

[57:32] first therefore be it resolved clause to the environmental sustainability

[57:36] committee uh to consider mitigating measures that can be implemented to

[57:41] assist us in u mitigating the impacts of the shaker wheel.

[57:44] » Got it. Is there a seconder for that? So seconded by councelor white. Any

[57:49] discussion on that? So see none the question on the amendment. All those in

[57:53] favor of the amendment. Uh, all those opposed to the amendment. Uh, so we're

[57:59] calling the amendment the the >> wanting to leave the Oh, severing.

[58:04] » We're talking about severing. So, >> are we talking No, I thought it was just

[58:07] one clause and >> so we're talking about putting one

[58:10] clause forward and then discussing if you want I mean procedurally it does the

[58:14] same thing will happen. You'll have the opportunity to with what she's

[58:17] proposing. you will have the opportunity to refer it and then it will come back

[58:21] with the main motion still where you can get pricing for first and second

[58:25] reading. So if you want to go back and get um so basically you're only

[58:31] referring one of the therefore clauses. So you're not referring the other two

[58:36] which is that council direct staff to report back council regarding the

[58:40] required capital and you're not referring to the committee that council

[58:43] direct staff to present information in a regular council meeting. So it's only

[58:48] about the strategies.

[58:54] » Yeah. >> Um so then the amendment basically like

[58:56] I'm through um worship to council I'm supportive um of having the

[59:03] sustainability committee look at this. Um but I'm just trying to ensure that

[59:07] while we look at other mitigating measures like even I've had residents um

[59:11] mention clover plants. I've had them ref, you know, mention wild fl wild

[59:16] flowers. So, I think that all of that can be considered. Um, however, I do

[59:21] think that, you know, for us to leave the grass in its current state, um, for

[59:25] an extended period of time is problematic. So, I think that this is a

[59:28] happy middle road, middle of the road. So, the

[59:32] grass will get fixed and we can look at some of our strategies long term, which

[59:35] we'll take more time. Uh, >> I'm sorry to speak, but just because I I

[59:40] feel like I'm visualizing this. I can see the cleanup around the grass, but I

[59:45] think it defeats the purpose of doing the work with the environmental

[59:48] sustainability committee because we're trying, as you said earlier, um, one of

[59:52] your goals is not to um have have extra cost uh with the city. So if we could

[59:58] alleviate any extra costs in the sense of like you know keeping it tidy and

[1:00:03] leaving it at the state I know it looks awful um but we need to we need to do

[1:00:07] all of this in the in the right way. So I will Yeah.

[1:00:12] » Okay. So for me for Oh councelor James go ahead.

[1:00:16] » Yeah. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um I just wanted to offer up a bit of an

[1:00:21] experience. Um, I have experienced Schaefer beetles and they are almost

[1:00:26] impossible to get rid of. I don't mean that they are because we were actually

[1:00:30] able to do it. It took two full seasons, constant treatments. Um, you can't just

[1:00:36] resaw over the the saw that's been decimated because their eggs and

[1:00:40] everything are still in there. And unless everyone in the neighborhood

[1:00:43] agrees to do the same thing, it doesn't work because they'll just move around

[1:00:48] from from lawn to lawn. So, I agree with what's being proposed. I also agree that

[1:00:54] the grass looks terrible when they've been attacked by Schaefer beetles, but

[1:00:58] it's not an easy remediation. So, my support is going to go to sending it to

[1:01:04] the environmental committee because this has to be realistically looked at and

[1:01:08] not just this you can't put a band-aid on this. This is a genuine real problem.

[1:01:13] So, and it's not just about residing the areas. It's about the whole treatment

[1:01:17] capacity. So I just wanted to step in because I have experienced them and it's

[1:01:21] uh way more work than a person who hasn't experienced it would think it

[1:01:25] was. So thank you for the opportunity to speak.

[1:01:28] » Um thank you Mr. Pollock on the amendment. Yeah just to offer um one of

[1:01:36] the issues of the boulevards or generally the responsibility properties.

[1:01:41] tire because there's been an ongoing issue. I would suggest that staff

[1:01:45] can be directed to go in tidy up the areas that are there and

[1:01:50] just to as as an interim measure as a worth while that would be for some time

[1:01:57] for options to be discussed but I certainly agree I agree with councelor

[1:02:01] James and that it's resol the issue when I do

[1:02:08] the things with the staff half going on

[1:02:13] places to clean up the area that be disturbed and then um we address it

[1:02:20] address shortterm matter. So um there's been few folks talking. I'll just add a

[1:02:26] thing and I think on the amendment part we probably know where folks are going.

[1:02:30] Um, so for me, uh, I'll just say that, um, I want to send the whole thing to

[1:02:35] the committee because I don't think, uh, replanting the grass or repairing the

[1:02:41] damaged grass is going to lead to it getting damaged again. And I feel like

[1:02:44] that might expend capital money that may need to be expended again in the future.

[1:02:49] And I don't want to expend capital money needlessly in my opinion. Uh, so that's

[1:02:55] why I just want to refer the whole thing. I believe it is a worthy cause.

[1:02:58] It's very important. I've certainly seen it, but I just don't want to rush the

[1:03:02] determination. So, um, we have like another

[1:03:08] opportunity to discuss this. So, >> um, I'm just going to call the question

[1:03:11] on the sending the one item which is the amendment. So, all those in favor of the

[1:03:16] amendment. >> All those opposed to the amendment. So,

[1:03:19] councelor James Wallace, uh, uh, White and myself. So, that's

[1:03:25] defeated. So that brings us to the referral and that's just referring the

[1:03:29] whole thing. Council me, >> um I think that the only thing that I

[1:03:33] would want to um clarify is just that this request that we get a cost estimate

[1:03:38] from staff um to look at what the cost of um replacing the grass is. I do think

[1:03:45] that it's a short-term measure. However, I do think generally speaking when we

[1:03:49] look at resident morale, community pride, those are things that do have

[1:03:52] tremendous value that um do relate to the overall presentation of our

[1:03:58] community. I think that this has a direct like and a direct impact on

[1:04:03] grassroots how people perceive our community and generally the maintenance

[1:04:06] that we put in I do think has an impact on overall that community pride and

[1:04:12] overall well-being. Um, so again, it's not to, you know, if all of a sudden we

[1:04:17] got it back and it's half a million dollars to replace all the grass, I

[1:04:20] myself might be hardressed to pursue, but right now we don't really have any

[1:04:24] cost estimates to replace some of the most highest damage um highest damage

[1:04:31] sites. So I guess that my um my my preference would be that um an

[1:04:36] alternative recommendation is put forward um to consider the cost um in a

[1:04:41] timely manner or at least a timely manner so they can consider the 2026

[1:04:45] financial plan. >> Sorry um we're just talking to the

[1:04:50] referral right now. So >> referring the whole thing. Sorry.

[1:04:53] » We're referring the whole thing. >> I'm just talking about problems. I see.

[1:04:56] » Yeah. Got it. Got it. Okay. So, councelor Albert or somebody else

[1:05:02] » councelor Albert. >> Yeah. No, I you know like I again I

[1:05:07] appreciate this and I I really appreciate the the attention given to

[1:05:13] community pride and you know like making making sure our community looks good.

[1:05:18] But I hesitate to provide more food or for a

[1:05:24] an invasive species in a location is like perpetuating or making them

[1:05:29] stronger. So I'm I'm more inclined to say, you know, like I'm I'm part of that

[1:05:34] committee that is being referred to and will be given top attention uh when we

[1:05:40] when we come back together. I believe we have a meeting in a couple weeks. So,

[1:05:44] uh, this is something that we'll put back as top top item. Um, at the time of

[1:05:51] year as well, uh, I don't think there's any rush to put any any grass. Um, most

[1:05:56] of the grass is is in a dormant state right now anyways. And like I say, I

[1:06:01] just hesitate to spend money to feed the bugs that we're trying to get rid of.

[1:06:06] So, um, I will be supporting the refer. >> Okay. Councelor White.

[1:06:11] » Thank you, Mayor Bahal. Um I my my thoughts on this are first I appreciate

[1:06:18] the to do a shortterm cleanup uh certainly to address the appearance in

[1:06:26] the community. Um I I think given the uh the extensive nature of this beetle

[1:06:36] infestation is not something that's unique to Lane

[1:06:40] City. It is uh something that's throughout all of Metro Vancouver as

[1:06:46] Counter Wallace mentioned and Albert. Um and I think uh there are numerous

[1:06:53] approaches to mitigating and dealing with this issue both from pest control

[1:06:59] to neato use to um alternate landscaping to education and training for um

[1:07:08] individuals and uh I think uh we need a comprehensive approach to it. I think uh

[1:07:16] there's learning that we can take from other communities as well and so I for

[1:07:21] one would support the recommendation going towards the sustainability.

[1:07:27] » Thank you. >> I think we've had a good discussion on

[1:07:30] this. I'll call the question. All those in favor

[1:07:34] there's none opposed. So that's unanimous. Uh 12 A6.

[1:07:42] Um, so this uh motion is titled city sanitation. Uh, same as before. Before I

[1:07:48] read it, I'll go see if I get a second because I have um an amendment to the

[1:07:52] wording as provided by the chief cover officer.

[1:07:55] » Yep. Seconded by Council Walls. >> Okay. So then I will immediately move um

[1:07:59] that the wording be amended to read. Whereas a council member has received

[1:08:05] regular complaints regarding the quantity of trash strewn about the city.

[1:08:09] And whereas it is perceived that there is more garbage littering the sidewalks

[1:08:13] and public spaces recently. And whereas garbage littering our public spaces has

[1:08:18] the potential to affect community pride, resident morale, and negatively impact

[1:08:22] how our community is perceived by visitors. Therefore, be it resolved that

[1:08:26] council direct staff to provide council with a report outlining the city's

[1:08:31] overall current strategy to sanitation or overall current sanitation strategy

[1:08:36] to facilitate timely cleanup of trash in city parks, public spaces, and along

[1:08:41] sidewalks.

[1:08:44] » Well, seconded by myself. Uh, and so on the everybody's talking about the

[1:08:48] amendment now. [clears throat] Questions on the amendment before we get into

[1:08:51] talking on the main thing. So, none on the amendment. All the questions in

[1:08:54] favor if so there's none opposed or you can talk she's the main so she

[1:09:02] can >> all right

[1:09:05] second point

[1:09:17] right I've already generally I think covered this um but I think probably to

[1:09:23] touch on um this middle point. I think that uh council does have a need to

[1:09:27] consider overall capacity um with these complaints being received by myself and

[1:09:32] potentially other um members of or received by members of the public to

[1:09:37] myself and maybe other members of council. Um so I think that a strategy

[1:09:41] to address waste in the city um as our population grows as we approach Sky

[1:09:45] Train I think is really important and potent for council to consider. Um, I

[1:09:49] went out on a five minute walk. I got all of these photos. Um, I went back out

[1:09:55] a few days later. The trash was all still there. So, the exact same

[1:09:59] situation as you see it um as it was. This sticker um obviously uses our

[1:10:05] trademark. Our logo has offensive photos. It's got a like a needle. It's

[1:10:10] got a bike with a tire missing and it looks like it's been there for, you

[1:10:14] know, a couple years. Um, so I think that, you know, that's problematic. Um,

[1:10:19] again, same five minute walk from, um, the bus stop over to right across from

[1:10:24] city hall. Um, tons of garbage straight about. Um, same site, same day. Garbage.

[1:10:34] Um, I have here um, garbage remained there for days. Same site. There's even

[1:10:38] garbage. Um, you can see like it's here, it's all here, it's here, it's here,

[1:10:42] it's here. It's pretty much kind of the entire site

[1:10:45] and I see it. I have been noticing that I've been getting complaints about in

[1:10:50] our public uh parks, our um like along sidewalks and our public spaces. Um so I

[1:10:58] want to be very clear. I think that staff are operating within the capacity

[1:11:01] that council is setting. Um I think that however council needs to consider our

[1:11:06] overall capacity to ensure that staff have the resources they need to clean

[1:11:10] our streets. I know that we've hired many administrative positions so far

[1:11:15] this term. However, um I want to ensure that we are looking at um how we can

[1:11:20] effectively get service delivery to um residents is going to affect them and I

[1:11:24] guess grassroots improve the quality of their life. Um whether it relate to

[1:11:28] community pride, whether it relates to overall resident morale um or just

[1:11:32] cleanliness of our streets. Um I think that it's how we present ourselves and

[1:11:35] we should be um doing our best and assessing capacity where necessary. Um,

[1:11:41] and I think that it's necessary here. So, I hope to be your support. Okay.

[1:11:45] » Thank you. Um, councelor Wallace and then councelor.

[1:11:49] » Yeah. Um, I just want to say it's the first time I I didn't realize that we

[1:11:53] could do powerpoints. We take that time up and do that. So,

[1:11:56] » everybody has five minutes. >> I didn't realize that. Um anyway, I

[1:12:03] wanted to ask a clarifying question um to Miss Kenny in the sense when um we

[1:12:10] want to is it defer like give it to refer? Sorry, I can't keep my wrong

[1:12:15] refer um to a committee. Can you cross refer to to committees?

[1:12:21] Can you can you um refer to two committees

[1:12:25] » or three for that matter? >> Yes. So, I would like to refer because I

[1:12:30] do believe that uh uh Langley City does take pride in the community and I think

[1:12:35] that uh um that there's a lot of people working on this and um we refer it to

[1:12:42] our environmental sustainability committee because it comes up in regards

[1:12:46] to waste management. We've done the um the the dog waste pilot project.

[1:12:55] » You want to refer it to the um environmental sustainability committee,

[1:13:01] the um arch committee and

[1:13:07] the uh school leaison committee. >> Okay. Is there a second? So seconded by

[1:13:13] councelor Alre. Do you want to speak? >> Speak to it because I do believe I do

[1:13:18] believe that schools in our neighborhoods take pride and that we

[1:13:23] should continue in the sense if we could if uh councelor White and myself could

[1:13:27] bring it forward uh to a um say that is a concern of um our council in regards

[1:13:36] to the litter that they can be part of the uh solution and I believe they do.

[1:13:41] There's a lot of pride program um kind of pride programs in schools and then

[1:13:46] also um the arch committee did have um it is one of our tasks in our work plan

[1:13:53] that did come up in regards to that we wanted to look at was the it used to be

[1:13:58] called point of pride and now they're calling it adopt a park. So the point of

[1:14:03] pride would be as councelor Mack showed you in one of her slides in the previous

[1:14:08] about the street of the year that was part of the point of pride um program.

[1:14:14] So we are in discussion of um bringing that back and then uh I think I and then

[1:14:20] sorry I spoke before in regards to the environmental sustainability committee

[1:14:24] is that we're doing a lot of work in regards to um environmental

[1:14:29] sustainability when it comes to waste management and yes litter litter on the

[1:14:34] streets and one of the hardest things to tackle is one of the photographs that um

[1:14:40] um council Matt did um show was I think it

[1:14:44] um a road where there's probably drugs that were happening. That's one of our

[1:14:49] things that we are trying to tackle and it's very very hard um in regards to

[1:14:54] that cleanup and I think the city does um a lot of clean up when it comes to

[1:14:59] bylaws. So I know that's a lot but I'm speaking in the sense that I think that

[1:15:05] we have our committees for a reason and I know that we're all taking pride. This

[1:15:10] is [clears throat] an area that we do take pride in and uh I think it's

[1:15:14] important we back with our communities. >> Awesome. Councelor Albert,

[1:15:19] » uh yeah, I'm I'm really glad that um this has come forward. This it's been a

[1:15:24] problem for our environmental sustainability committee as Rosemary

[1:15:28] Councelor Wallace has noted. Um, I know we've got a uh a contract that is ending

[1:15:34] uh for our waist stream um uh bins and and uh containers in the downtown core.

[1:15:41] We're looking at doing a whole different strategy in the downtown. Uh staff are

[1:15:45] currently working on that. We're bringing that forward as a committee. Uh

[1:15:49] we're hopeful to have that early in the new year, uh I believe. And so we're

[1:15:54] really excited about trying to get something done for our for our downtown

[1:15:59] and uh and bringing that u that cleanliness aspect back to the

[1:16:04] community. At the same time, have an effective way of recycling material

[1:16:10] rather than everything going into one trash. So that those are those are key

[1:16:14] components that we're working towards. Uh, I also, and again, I don't want to

[1:16:18] speak uh to something that uh councelor James has better knowledge of, but I

[1:16:23] know the DLPA has a a cleanup program or volunteers that help uh with the

[1:16:29] cleaning of the downtown. So, we'll be coordinating all those kinds of works

[1:16:32] with our uh our work with the environmental sustainability committee.

[1:16:37] And I know that this has been something that has been oh probably their number

[1:16:42] one passion item uh for a couple years now uh without making much success

[1:16:49] because of the current contract provider um and and the limitations that we have.

[1:16:55] So I'll be supporting the referral. >> Thank you. Uh I am I add myself to the

[1:17:00] speaking list. So uh I am also uh supportive of the referral. I think

[1:17:04] there's a good opportunity to collaborate and I'll give you a good

[1:17:08] example. So, uh, a lot of people were throwing dog waste into Brien Creek and

[1:17:13] that's something that I did a request for service with staff uh, just so that

[1:17:17] was on the file and then I talked to Mr. Block and said, "Hey, I noticed this

[1:17:21] issue um, and I think other people did a request for service as well and I know

[1:17:25] the city crews are really quick that up." Uh and then um I talked to uh the

[1:17:31] environment committee and or the chair anyways and then that was part of the

[1:17:36] thought for the pilot for the dog waste bins were put there as a result and it

[1:17:41] certainly reduced uh that opportunity. So I think there's other things where

[1:17:45] you can look at these hotspots. Again I encourage everybody to actually do I do

[1:17:50] request for service because that's how staff know how to clean things up. Uh,

[1:17:53] and in my experience when I've done a request for service, it's been very

[1:17:58] quick to get that cleaned up. Um, but maybe that's a bit of an aside. Uh, so

[1:18:02] I'm going to be supporting that just because I think it'll bring a better

[1:18:05] outcome for an overall how we manage. Um, so councelor Mac,

[1:18:10] » thank you. Um, I was in support of referring the last um motion to

[1:18:16] committees. I think that of course I don't want to diminish the value of

[1:18:19] committee. just spoke to the value that I think um could be achieved by the

[1:18:24] previous referral. Um I do however think that it is important that as members of

[1:18:29] council we take accountability and and everything cannot just be outsourced to

[1:18:33] a committee or just sent away. Um this feels like it's adding bureaucracy to

[1:18:39] something that we have to look at which is aren't there enough people to

[1:18:42] actually clean up the garbage and are we adequately staffing and that's a council

[1:18:46] responsibility that's you know there might be other things that can be done

[1:18:49] point of pride program which will be absolutely supportive there can also be

[1:18:53] um like you know in terms of actually waste management where the waste goes

[1:18:57] however waste cleanup is our responsibility as a municipality so

[1:19:02] going to the school district and saying do you have people that want to

[1:19:04] volunteer here are are we stating as a municipality that we don't have enough

[1:19:09] resources or we don't have the like we don't we can't fund these positions for

[1:19:14] ourselves because that's not my perception. My perception is that we

[1:19:18] need to look at it. Um I said when we were up there we've hired many

[1:19:22] administrative positions. City admin has gone up 44 point some odd percent per

[1:19:27] capita. um assuming the approval of the 2026 budget. It's a financial plan. Um

[1:19:34] it's we're hiring in certain areas and we have over this council term. So I

[1:19:41] think it's important that as we're looking at all of our investments, we're

[1:19:45] going are we making investments that affect our residents lives? So I think

[1:19:49] this is an opportunity where instead of referring away this motion and adding a

[1:19:56] little bit of bureaucracy from some I think that we have the opportunity to

[1:20:00] address it now to give clear direction to staff. I do not think that it is

[1:20:04] appropriate for this motion to be um reverted away and I hope that ultimately

[1:20:08] respectfully um the referral isn't supported so that we can continue to

[1:20:12] address um the actual motion because it sounds like there's actually a lot of

[1:20:16] likemindedness in terms of but with respect to this motion that it needs to

[1:20:20] be addressed just about what the best way to do it is perhaps

[1:20:25] » so so in I guess the way that I look at our community is that it takes a

[1:20:31] community to look after um the city, right? So, we've had communities in

[1:20:37] bloom before. We've had the point of pride program. We've had cleanups that

[1:20:42] happen in our in our crates uh by Lying Environmental Partnerships that do it

[1:20:48] every year. Um we've have uh the get around Earth, another cleanup that has

[1:20:54] been a yearly thing. So my thing is like the reason why I'm not just uh referring

[1:21:01] things away. I'm referring it that we all take a collective responsibility in

[1:21:06] looking after um our city because it does it does create a um a point of

[1:21:12] pride. So, when I'm going into a school district or a school, if I'm going to a

[1:21:16] liaison committee and I say, you know what, we'd really like um your students

[1:21:20] to be involved in a pride uh point of pride program in your school where

[1:21:25] they're looking after creeks, they're looking after school grounds, and

[1:21:28] they're being conscious of of um what is thrown away as far as the environmental

[1:21:33] impacts. So, you know, when you're throwing um garbage or you know, other

[1:21:38] things into streams, how that it becomes a learning of what can happen. So, my

[1:21:43] sense is like I'm, you know, I'm thankful that you brought this forward,

[1:21:47] councelor Matt, but um in in in saving costs in our city, I I I feel like in

[1:21:54] going we have we have staff that sit on a committee, our committees.

[1:22:00] So, I feel like they they take on that responsibility in in our environmental

[1:22:04] sustainability committee. We have two staff that sit on a committee, right?

[1:22:08] So, and our committee. So, I'm just like I'm really wanting to take a wholesome

[1:22:16] look at this and include as much as many citizens as possible from very young to

[1:22:24] very old so that we all take responsibility for having and a clean

[1:22:29] city. >> So, I'm going to go Mr. Chong and I

[1:22:32] think this was a good discussion. >> Yeah, thank you Mr. Certainly there are

[1:22:36] a lot of discussion obviously all of us uh have you know take issue with state

[1:22:43] kidless in the city obviously we follow those syndromes if there's an issue

[1:22:48] anything small we want to deal with it otherwise it's going to get bigger and

[1:22:52] bigger um the fact of the matter is we don't have a lot of complaints about

[1:22:55] litters we do litter pickup on regular basis and any residents whether it's

[1:23:01] council Mac or anybody else can certainly file a request for service to

[1:23:05] the city and our staff will be very responsive. We'll go out and deal with

[1:23:09] the issue and I'm sure Mr. Paul and staff if there's a overwhelming

[1:23:15] or need uh to do um you know more additional pickup you will certainly

[1:23:20] submit a service level enhancement hire additional staff to address those

[1:23:24] issues. So uh you know I think it's a good discussion we need to address this

[1:23:29] issue and referring to the different committees will give us those policy

[1:23:34] direction to look at this issue for this.

[1:23:38] So with that I think I'll have a question on all those in favor. Any

[1:23:43] opposed? So councelor might oppose. So that's carried. So item 12 A7. Uh it's

[1:23:50] written here a second for council re. So just some context.

[1:23:56] This isn't necessarily like a motion that I put forward just because it was a

[1:24:01] conversation that I had with a few members of council and I know this was a

[1:24:05] followup to the meeting that I wasn't unable to attend uh unfortunately but uh

[1:24:11] I just wanted to get a group of council to send it a letter for next steps

[1:24:14] because I know it's part of our strategic priorities still and then

[1:24:18] hopefully get the signature telling us some concrete action. So any discussion

[1:24:24] on that? >> It's been moved and seconded

[1:24:29] by councelor Alre. Any further discussion? Let's see none

[1:24:33] other question. All those in favor. So that's carried unanimously. And so that

[1:24:38] brings us to the end. I move that we adjourn. Seconded by M. Question. All

[1:24:42] those in favor. Any opposed? You're I will see you all

[1:24:47] weeks.

November 3, 2025 - Langley City Regular Council Meeting

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