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taken to the saying you don't sweat when
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you're eating
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call the meeting the two order please
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rise for the flag salute
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allegiance to the flag of the United
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States of America to The Republic which
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it stands one nation under God
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indivisible with liberty and justice for
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all
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uh will the deputy City recorder please
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call roll
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Jeremy Salvage here
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Wayne Dykstra here here Dave Workman
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here Michelle steinhabel here Carl Mann
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here Rebecca Grizzle here Tom Wells
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uh Josh port and Lance caddy are absent
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thank you
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are there any nominations for Budget
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committee chair I nominated
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I nominate counselor steinable I
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nominate KJ offers we got three
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nominations now
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a second
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so what are you seconding I thing nope
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okay
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looking to nominate KJ alfords as per
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budget committee chair was made by
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councilor Stein hapel hibble I screw her
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name up and I apologize okay I'm so
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sorry we'll get there we will and
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seconded by uh
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counselor Workman all those in favor say
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aye
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opposed nay
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motion passes with
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how many how many we got here four a lot
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Against One
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is it eight
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seven years and one name
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budget committee takes over the meeting
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that's you now
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okay
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we need a nomination for a budget
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committee secretary
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I nominate counselor Salvage
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second all those in favor
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aye opposed
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done really good so yeah it passes
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unanimously
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okay uh next we're going to look for an
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approval of the May 4th 2022 budget
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committee meetings
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move for approval
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it's been moved and seconded all those
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in favor
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opposed
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okay it passes
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and are we going to do these we've I've
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not done these before we're gonna do
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these now or later
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would be later after we do the
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presentations okay then we would do
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publicly
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okay at this point I'm going to turn it
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over to the city manager for
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presentation of the FY
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2324 budget message thank you good
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afternoon and welcome everybody to the
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best part of the year
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um I have to say that every year because
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it is the best part of the year so you
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do have before you a proposed budget
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this we have made some I think some
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significant changes in the document
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itself this year trying to give a lot
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more information about resources and
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uses of monies and the different funds
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and trying to give more information on
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the services that departments provide
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I will note for the most part we are
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proposing a budget that continues all of
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our existing services at their existing
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levels there are some notable call outs
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one is this budget does not include
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funding reopening the jail
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and chief Stevenson will be able to
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speak to this when when he comes up if
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you have more specific questions but in
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terms of looking at what the jail needs
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we're talking at at least five permanent
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staff positions Corrections Officers
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that would staff the the jail 24 7 we
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would have contracts for services for
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mental health and medical health both of
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which we would be required to provide
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and and we have done in a very minimal
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basis in the past but to meet best
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practices it's about seven hundred fifty
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thousand dollars to reopen the jail so
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that's uh something for the the
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committee to consider
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um we have con included twenty thousand
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dollars to complete an upgrade of the
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city's website it's been uh eight years
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since we last upgraded it we've been
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notified a couple of times that our site
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does not uh meet ADA requirements and
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this is largely for vision impaired
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people where
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um things like when you post an image
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you have to also post a description of
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that image so someone who's having a
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reader read a website
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um you know who cannot see where it says
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click here to go to the next thing would
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have that read out loud and would be
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able to make that action so we're
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looking at at the need to address it uh
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UPS upgrades both from cyber security
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and that ADA accessibility and frankly
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just a Refresh on the web page
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we have included another fifty thousand
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dollar increase in the sanitary sewer
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lateral budget we have more than fully
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expended the budget this year we have
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pulled money out of the manhole project
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uh and Ron was in my office the other
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day saying we have already got people
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lining up for July uh and may may very
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well exceed our budget even with the
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fifty thousand dollar increase for next
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fiscal year
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we have included a safety coordinator
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position in Human Resources this is to
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address overall safety and risk
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management in the organization we've had
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a pretty significant increase the last
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couple of years in workers comp claims
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and employees being injured on the job
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and we have not done a good job of
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record keeping in terms of trainings
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that we have and I should say mandatory
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trainings that we have had people go
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through to make sure that they're doing
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their ladder safety training their
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forklift training those kinds of things
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and frankly everybody in the
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organization is stretched so thin it's
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not something that we can add on to
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someone else's plate saying by the way
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read up on the OSHA rules make sure
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you're doing your trainings and you're
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documenting all that so brought in that
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as a as a position in the current year
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working through
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using some savings from a vacant
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position to make that happen
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we have in the Parks fund we've included
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a bump up of twenty thousand dollars for
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part-time summer casual this is funded
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by Bill Lebanon Trails which is going to
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donate that money each year for the next
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several years with that position really
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dedicated to doing maintenance along the
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trails there is a huge amount of Mowing
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and weed control and trash pickup and
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sweeping on those trails that needs to
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be done in the summertime in particular
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and so BLT has agreed to fund that
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additional work to make sure the trails
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are good
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um in the custodial and building fund
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we're adding a mechanic we have for a
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number of years sent our vehicles to
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Benton County Public Works for
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maintenance that takes the vehicle out
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of service for you know three or four
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hours assuming that you can Buzz over
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get an oil change and Buzz back that
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doesn't always happen and Benton County
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shop rate has gone up significantly the
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last couple of years so we're going to
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add a mechanic they will be doing the
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maintenance on our police vehicles
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Public Works vehicles are our Lynx buses
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engineerings Vehicles their their
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pickups and those kinds of things and we are seeing a reduction then in
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what we would be paying in in that
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maintenance budget across those
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departments in the organization
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um and finally the senior center
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activities planner was bumped from a
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half time to a full time as we continue
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to invest in evidence-based programming
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for seniors really working to try and
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make sure that we are Helping Seniors
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live their best lives to be healthy both
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mentally and physically so lots of
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classes on you know exercise and
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stretching that you can do in a chair or
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you can do with very low impact not
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suffer injuries and then the the brain
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side of it crossword puzzles games
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Bridge
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pinochle is back I think so trying to
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make sure that we're keeping that
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population going
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um I will note for the Pro's proposed
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budget in total at your place this is a
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summary of the data that's in the book
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um it's a one-pager and we did add the
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proportion of variance in in terms of
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the current proposed budget versus the
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adopted budget our Revenue projections
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are down pretty much across the board
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even with property taxes up we are
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seeing
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reductions and assessments we're seeing
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reductions in
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grant money we don't have the federal
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arpa dollars coming through we don't
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budget grants generally until we receive
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them so we can always do a supplemental
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budget in the year if we get a grant but
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we don't budget assuming that we're
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going to get those and then appropriate
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and spend money potentially that we
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don't get
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um our expenditures in total are down a
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little bit on the operating side with
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some UPS some Downs by Department
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that's pretty normal for where we are
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again some of that is you may have had a
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department that had Grant funded program
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this year and then doesn't have that
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next year so they have that grant money
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re removed out of their budget for next
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year and so we do see some of that
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moving through the course of the budget
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I will note the numbers in the budget
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message this table got updated very last
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minute so the totals in the budget
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message on page seven are off by a
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little bit this is the the correct total
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budget I think we found one or two minor
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things that hadn't carried through in
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terms of the total budget so uh work off
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of those numbers
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um I will focus most of my comments here
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on the general fund uh the general fund
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as you all know is our major
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operating fund that gets property tax
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money uh it is uh fiscally challenged we
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are having a structural problem and I'm
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going to say we are not the only ones
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across the state of Oregon uh right now
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most communities are in about the same
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place we are in terms of working through
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budget committee and city council uh
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County Commission adoption of budgets
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um and and if you read headlines in
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multiple newspapers you see Salem is
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looking at an 18 million dollar deficit
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Eugene at 15 million Ontario is looking
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at whether or not they ought to
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Institute fees to add a police officer
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so it doesn't really matter the size
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communities are all in this place
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where your incoming revenue is not
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growing as fast as your outflow
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expenditures and that mismatch for us
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for the the proposed budget year is 1.2
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million dollars where we're projecting
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to spend 1.2 million more than we're
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bringing in we have fund balance we're
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not at negative we're not deficit
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spending there is uh not a cause for
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severe Panic there is cause to look hard
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at what the future is going to be and
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how to best balance services in going
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into the future to try and keep within
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our resource our Revenue stream on an
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annualized basis and I note uh that can
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be done in several ways right you can
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cut the budget you can seek new revenues
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in a variety of ways you can do a
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combination of those that's going to be
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some work we're going to ask the council
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to to take up over the coming year I I
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will also note that for the first time
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we have a five-year financial plan that
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is in the budget this is on page 13.
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this is for the general fund we're
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hoping to be able to add other major
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funds this really does try and project
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out where we are today
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and if our current trends continue into
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the future where we would be in the next
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five years
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I'm the first person to tell you that by
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definition the budget's plan the plan
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never goes according to plan so I can
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tell you that uh bottom line the numbers
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will not be what we are projecting right
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we will have years over those five years
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where we'll have some years where
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revenues are higher than expected and
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some years where they're lower we'll
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have years where we don't spend the full
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budget maybe by a significant share so
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for example the current year with the
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police department vacancies that we have
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had the police department budget will be
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considerably under expended but we're
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getting very close to the police
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department once again being fully
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staffed and I would not predict that we
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would under expend to that level I would
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hope we would not expend under expend to
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that level next year so we see those
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waves coming through the budget what we
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do is try to put together a snapshot
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that lets us say what actions can we
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take today that will make our financial
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situation and look better in the long
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term
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to that end staff made some Cuts in the
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budgets in in there from what they
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originally asked for to what is in the
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document before you the cuts that we've
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made are largely materials and supplies
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some contracts some capital outlay
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those are not going to be sustainable in
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terms of maintaining our current
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operations so we can cut training back
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for a year in a department but sooner or
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later certification requires that those
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trainings be brought back to the to the
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fore we can cut our computer replacement
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budget for a little bit for a year but
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those computers will begin to fail
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upgrades will have to happen or else our
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system fails so we recognize that a lot
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of what has been cut to get us to this
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point for this year is kind of a
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one-time basis and will require more
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work on an ongoing basis to to take this
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community forward in time
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um I would say uh I I would like to be
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able to see our revenues grow I we are
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still
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almost 10 years from uh when we will
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make our final debt payment on the
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northwest urban renewal District in that
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District would you know that value would
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roll back on to the tax rolls
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um I I would hope that we could do it
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sooner than that but you do have to make
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all the debt payment commitments that
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you have and we are working through that
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um I also will note that we continue to
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try and invest in infrastructure and you
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see that around the community but that
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is largely being done with water and
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sewer rate Revenue right it's the
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monthly utility bill so uh as you've
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heard Ron talk about West Side
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Interceptor that's funded by the by the
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Wastewater fund it's not funded by the
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general fund so that work continues even
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because that fund we're able to set
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rates and raise the revenue we need but
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it's not going to help us in the general
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fund where we we can't raise those rates
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at this point
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um for the future again I I think the
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general fund is the the largest area of
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concern I think we recognize the need
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for additional police officers we would
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like to be able to reopen the jail
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that's going to be a heavy lift
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um I think the senior center needs to
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have at least one more activities
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planner offering services in the in the
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post covet environment we are seeing
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more and more people using that facility
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as as they feel safe to do
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um we don't have a public information
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officer we don't have a disaster
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management planner both of those are
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positions I think are important and both
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of those positions would function in in
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part internally within the organization
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but also in part with Communications
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with the community there is a lot to be
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said for a disaster management planner
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doing
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community trainings based on what should
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you be prepared for how do you pack a go
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bag what should be in those GO bags how
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do you know who's in your neighborhood
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and when the big one hits or the flood
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hits or the Fire Hits who do you need to
[16:48]
make sure is okay you know did were you
[16:51]
able to get out of the house are you
[16:52]
safe who was where do we have vulnerable
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members that are in my block that I can
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watch out for
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I will tell you that our parks
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department is understaffed I know a lot
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of you use the trails when you walk
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along those Trails pay attention to how
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much space there is on both sides of
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those trails that need to be mowed need
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to be weeded need to be attended to
[17:14]
maintained cleaned in addition to all of
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our parks and our Sports fields and
[17:21]
maintaining all of those there's a lot
[17:23]
of work that that is done by public
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works on a routine basis and Jason and
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his crews make a good good job of kind
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of moving people who are the highest
[17:33]
demand is at any given time but we do
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need to invest more in our Parks
[17:38]
maintenance and our and and our
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facilities there particularly as we see
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the cheetah Lake Project coming forward
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in the next couple of years and
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expansions and expanded use of that Park
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expanded use will mean expanded
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maintenance also
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I note that we continue to have no
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resources to fix local streets what we
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get from the state every year in gas tax
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money is not enough we do Street
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projects as we can so again with Ron
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you've heard a lot of discussion about
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the 7th Street water line that's become
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water line sewer line storm water line
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and street so that will address that
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section of 7th Street but again you all
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know driving around town our residential
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streets are in bad shape and we don't
[18:24]
have money coming in for that we
[18:27]
continue to see decreases in state gas
[18:30]
tax money as more people switch to EVS
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or as gas mileage is going up and we see
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the state trying to figure out how
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they're going to
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manage both the demand that ODOT has for
[18:42]
needing more resources and the demand
[18:44]
that cities and Counties have in terms
[18:45]
of how we get resources to maintain our
[18:48]
local streets
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that is coming a conversation at the
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state level but it it also needs to be a
[18:55]
conversation at the local level because
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I don't believe the state is going to
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come with money that says you know
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here's enough that you can
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replace or repair 10 blocks of local
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streets every year that that you know
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every Community has a need for
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um I know we're completing the
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wastewater treatment plant master plan
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that should be coming to the council for
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review later this summer or early fall I
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think we have every expectation that is going to lay out a series of
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needed improvements at the wastewater
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treatment plant that are going to be
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costly as we watch our neighbors sweet
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home that's gone from a 20 million
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dollar plant to a 40 million dollar
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plant to a 55 million dollar plant same
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plant just the cost driving up this the
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those needs that's going to put more
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pressure on our Wastewater rates in
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terms of the need to fund those services
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and meet the requirements
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um I'll tell you we're watching at the
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federal level as the federal government
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looks at per end polyfluorinated
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substances pfas you'll hear a lot more
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about this I'm pretty sure over the
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coming years that are in drinking water
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or not in drinking water we aren't
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really sure
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um but there is a movement to require
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local water service providers to treat
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for pfas and to make sure those are not
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in your water and if we have them in our
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water that will be expansion of some
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kind likely at the water treatment plant
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I'll tell you I'm hoping for federal
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money to come in and pay for that as
[20:32]
they drive that because they certainly
[20:34]
recognize
[20:35]
that there is a significant need for uh
[20:40]
for communities to address their water
[20:42]
infrastructure but I can't hold my
[20:45]
breath anymore that the federal
[20:46]
government is going to fund what the
[20:48]
federal government requires us to do so
[20:50]
we're watching it
[20:51]
we're starting to look at what that
[20:53]
might involve
[20:55]
I know that we are likely to reach a
[20:58]
population of 20 000 this year or next
[21:00]
year
[21:01]
we'll see those numbers come out in in
[21:04]
December from Portland State University
[21:08]
um all kinds of things are happening as
[21:10]
we switch into that we're no longer
[21:12]
considered a rural community that moves
[21:15]
us out of a pot of rural grants that was
[21:17]
pretty easy to get just call up and say
[21:20]
hey we need some money for this thing
[21:21]
and you'd have a couple people at the
[21:23]
state say yeah let's help you as a rural
[21:24]
community you need that help at at even
[21:27]
our current population they kind of say
[21:29]
yeah you can do that on your own
[21:32]
um and the grants get more complex they
[21:34]
get bigger they have more strings
[21:36]
attached to them they need more work to
[21:38]
apply for them more work to manage them
[21:41]
as we go forward in time but I always
[21:44]
like being able to get a grant to fund a
[21:46]
significant project that the community
[21:48]
needs because we have such a hard time
[21:50]
raising that money locally
[21:54]
um I also will say that that starts
[21:55]
adding more responsibilities to some
[21:57]
extent you all are seeing that the
[21:59]
council is seeing that as we work
[22:00]
through things like the housing
[22:01]
production strategy bills that are
[22:04]
moving in the current legislative
[22:06]
session are moving that to a state
[22:08]
coming in and telling you if you're over
[22:10]
ten thousand here's what you have to do
[22:13]
on Housing Development to get more
[22:15]
affordable housing more housing and
[22:17]
total built in the community we're going
[22:19]
to continue to see those things drive as
[22:21]
the state says if you're over ten
[22:23]
thousand we will have another jump when
[22:25]
we get to 25 000 which is a couple of
[22:27]
years off but uh but maybe not that far
[22:30]
and so I think those are going to put
[22:33]
pressures on us and our ability to
[22:35]
provide services to the community and
[22:39]
continue to do that uh at
[22:42]
and maintain everything else that we're
[22:45]
doing
[22:46]
um I'm going to close by saying I
[22:48]
appreciate the work that staff does
[22:50]
every year in terms of pulling the
[22:52]
budget together for us we've spent a lot
[22:55]
of time working on this and I appreciate
[22:58]
Brandon and his group I I think Brandon
[23:00]
did a good job of bringing more
[23:02]
information into the budget about what
[23:04]
we do and why we do it where the revenue
[23:06]
comes from the assumptions that we're
[23:08]
making about what's happening with those
[23:11]
revenues uh and and being clear with
[23:13]
those assumptions to say it you know
[23:16]
assumptions that prove to be wrong give
[23:19]
us some opportunity to make amendments
[23:21]
going forward so with that I'm going to
[23:23]
stop and answer questions if there are
[23:26]
any
[23:28]
are there any questions
[23:32]
just curious how many do we know how
[23:33]
many are in our Fleet of City vehicles I
[23:36]
should probably know that but I don't
[23:37]
know how many there is and I think it's
[23:39]
a lot
[23:41]
um
[23:43]
I I think uh I'm I'm looking up at
[23:46]
Jason's got a billion 25
[23:50]
oh
[23:52]
75 total
[23:54]
okay thank you so that you know I mean
[23:56]
you you have to think about that
[23:57]
includes mowers and that's everything
[24:00]
what is that the Sheep's foot that
[24:02]
trumps down gravel things so we've got a
[24:05]
lot of of kind of peculiar machines in
[24:09]
addition to Vehicles things like the
[24:10]
vectors the street sweepers require a
[24:12]
lot of attention
[24:16]
any other questions for Nancy
[24:19]
okay let's go on to the presentation of
[24:22]
budget of Department budgets
[24:25]
Nancy okay so we're going to have
[24:28]
directors come up
[24:30]
um and we're going to try and do this in
[24:31]
a timely way so we're going to start
[24:33]
with Kendra Antilla our library director
[24:36]
Frank Stevenson will come up because
[24:38]
he's next up they're going to give you
[24:41]
and as we go through this you're going
[24:42]
to get
[24:44]
four to six minutes five minutes ish
[24:46]
presentation highlights of the budget
[24:49]
and then have the opportunity to ask
[24:51]
questions and uh getting any other
[24:54]
information that you need or would like
[24:55]
to have from a department director
[25:04]
okay here we go
[25:07]
good afternoon everyone
[25:09]
if you've heard me talk about the
[25:11]
library ever you've heard me say that we
[25:13]
are more than books
[25:16]
um it always amazes me that people who
[25:18]
are not Library users have no idea that
[25:20]
we also have movies music audio books
[25:23]
magazines newspapers we have a library
[25:27]
of things almost exclusively Grant
[25:30]
funded in that collection our patrons
[25:33]
can check out things like a microscope a
[25:35]
telescope a sewing machine
[25:37]
electronic drum keyboard specialty cake
[25:41]
pans a bird watching kit engineering and
[25:44]
robotics kits
[25:46]
toy cash register for kids to learn
[25:48]
about money a Puppet Theater board games
[25:52]
we also have a seed Library that's all
[25:56]
donated seeds from wholesalers where
[25:59]
patrons can check out a variety of seeds
[26:02]
between the physical and digital items
[26:04]
in our collection we check out roughly
[26:07]
150 000 items annually
[26:12]
we also have public computers we have
[26:15]
Wi-Fi blazing fast Wi-Fi inside the
[26:18]
building and outside the building
[26:20]
it's important to remember that in-home
[26:24]
internet is a luxury not everyone can
[26:26]
afford and or if you're in a rural area
[26:29]
it's just not possible
[26:32]
so um if you notice in the budget report
[26:35]
I did a
[26:37]
there's an impact report graphic
[26:40]
we had over 75 000 Wi-Fi connections in
[26:44]
the past year and close to 11
[26:46]
000. internet uses of our in-house
[26:50]
computers we also have study rooms that
[26:53]
are constantly busy there's only three
[26:56]
of them but they're heavily used by the
[26:58]
public for tutoring for job interviews
[27:00]
for Zoom meetings for supervised
[27:04]
visitation even they get a lot of use
[27:06]
for a lot of different things
[27:08]
we're also part of the Lynn Library
[27:11]
Consortium that is a reciprocal
[27:14]
agreement between Albany Sweet Home Scio
[27:17]
Harrisburg and Lebanon Public Libraries
[27:19]
as well as Lynn Benton Community College
[27:21]
we started that Consortium in 2017.
[27:25]
that allows my patrons Lebanon patrons
[27:28]
can check out items from any of those
[27:30]
libraries at no cost to them
[27:33]
they can choose to have it delivered to
[27:35]
the Lebanon Library via Courier or they
[27:37]
can go to any of those libraries and use
[27:39]
their Lebanon card at those libraries
[27:42]
the only cost involved is the cost for
[27:46]
The Courier that cost me about two
[27:48]
thousand dollars a year and Lebanon
[27:50]
patrons checked out close to ninety
[27:53]
thousand dollars worth of materials from
[27:55]
those other libraries in just the past
[27:57]
year
[27:59]
and a big part of what we do is
[28:01]
programming programming is huge
[28:04]
um we do story times of course early
[28:08]
literacy is crucial and we all benefit
[28:11]
from a more literate Society we have
[28:14]
preschool and baby story times there
[28:17]
have been 59 story times since September
[28:20]
we take we do summer reading and then we
[28:23]
start up again with story times in
[28:24]
September so since September there have
[28:26]
been 59 story times the average
[28:28]
attendance is 44 people at those story
[28:31]
times
[28:32]
we also have adult book club we have
[28:35]
game night we have Sugo which stands for
[28:38]
show up geek out that's stem programming
[28:41]
for children we have a teen Advisory
[28:43]
Group that plans all kinds of teen
[28:45]
activities we do
[28:47]
um huge public events during Spring
[28:49]
Break and summer reading
[28:53]
um and we do often just sporadic story
[28:56]
events for other things we recently had
[28:59]
the Audubon Society come out and do a
[29:01]
bird talk and then they took people
[29:04]
outside gave them
[29:06]
um
[29:06]
binoculars and showed him a bunch of
[29:09]
cool things we do family game nights we
[29:12]
recently did um one where they did a
[29:15]
Nerf we handed out Nerf guns and safety
[29:18]
glasses to everyone and they played
[29:19]
Capture the Flag
[29:21]
um we and then candy bar Bingo we
[29:24]
recently had a Star Wars night on May
[29:26]
the 4th we had 305 attendees at that
[29:29]
event family events free fun safe family
[29:35]
programming is a huge deal and it's
[29:37]
something that we offer to the public
[29:38]
and anytime we do we just have massive turnouts for
[29:43]
things like that
[29:44]
all programming is free it's open to
[29:47]
everyone no library card is required
[29:50]
and that's a little summation of what we
[29:53]
do
[29:55]
thank you any any questions from anybody
[29:59]
nothing okay thank you ma'am thanks
[30:07]
we're gonna have Frank up next
[30:19]
good afternoon everyone
[30:22]
how's everyone doing
[30:26]
I'm doing great thanks I believe uh our
[30:29]
budget uh for the police department's on
[30:31]
page 45 in case you guys need to
[30:33]
reference that
[30:35]
um just a quick synopsis of what the
[30:37]
police department consists of we uh
[30:40]
42
[30:42]
budgeted uh for full-time employees
[30:46]
um
[30:46]
uh We've as suggested or as stated
[30:51]
um
[30:51]
the jail is is the number one topic
[30:54]
right now is how we're going to reopen
[30:57]
that and how are we going to fund that
[30:59]
um
[31:00]
that's kind of a pretty big deal
[31:03]
um and it's something that's going to be
[31:04]
a heavy lift in the in the coming years
[31:06]
to figure out how we are going to make
[31:10]
that happen
[31:12]
um I've included in the presentation for
[31:16]
you guys to review is just a few graphs
[31:18]
and
[31:20]
um rather than going over all those
[31:22]
graphs I figured I would just leave it
[31:23]
up to you guys if you had any questions
[31:24]
in regards to that but one in particular
[31:28]
um
[31:29]
to pay attention to is just the rise in
[31:31]
population and the decrease in the
[31:33]
number of officers
[31:35]
also another one is the use of force you
[31:39]
see that the use of force is definitely
[31:41]
on the uptick and on the uprise
[31:43]
with the number of officers decreasing
[31:47]
some highlights as far as something that
[31:51]
as you guys are very much aware of we've
[31:54]
been short staffed over the last year
[31:56]
and a half
[31:58]
I'm happy to say though to report to you
[32:01]
that uh we've hired seven since the
[32:05]
beginning of the year it says six in
[32:06]
here but I just hired another one last
[32:08]
week so we're definitely on the uptick
[32:11]
on getting us back to fully stuffed I
[32:14]
have two
[32:15]
remaining that are in backgrounds right
[32:18]
now if we get those through backgrounds
[32:19]
and Sykes and everything we'll be back
[32:21]
to fully staffed so that's something
[32:23]
that
[32:24]
I made a goal or you know my me and my
[32:27]
Administration made a goal within a year
[32:29]
to get us back to fully staffed and
[32:31]
we're reaching that goal so
[32:34]
um
[32:36]
there's a lot to say but I don't know
[32:39]
what kind of questions you guys have so
[32:41]
I'm just going to leave it up to you
[32:43]
guys
[32:47]
well I have a question it's more for
[32:49]
maybe directed at Nancy
[32:52]
um on these one of the variants on the right side there for police it's 4.2
[32:57]
is that is that to to uh address and
[33:01]
just
[33:02]
the economic inflationary period we're
[33:05]
in or how how do you describe that okay
[33:08]
so uh as as we noted uh we have two
[33:13]
labor units American Federation of State
[33:16]
County Municipal Employees which is our
[33:18]
general Service Unit Teamsters which is
[33:20]
everybody except the four management
[33:22]
positions in the just well in the police
[33:25]
department so records evidence all of
[33:28]
the police officers sergeants
[33:30]
those units have Labor agreements in the
[33:33]
case of the police department they have
[33:34]
an existing agreement that doesn't
[33:36]
expire until June 30th of 24 and that
[33:40]
agreement sets out what their cost of
[33:43]
living adjustments are so they're
[33:45]
getting uh everyone in the unit is
[33:48]
getting a four percent Cola and then we
[33:50]
have a one percent I'm going to make
[33:52]
sure I'm doing this right a one percent
[33:53]
Market adjustment for officers and
[33:56]
sergeants who uh in our last
[33:59]
negotiations were behind Market
[34:02]
um any officer and and with seven new
[34:04]
officers coming uh on board uh hopefully
[34:08]
soon to be nine uh they start at step
[34:11]
one on the pay scale but then they get
[34:14]
step increases at six months I don't
[34:17]
remember now the the timing so they
[34:19]
might get an additional five percent
[34:21]
step increase and with more young
[34:24]
officers on on payroll we've got more
[34:27]
officers getting that step increase I
[34:30]
think police kept their materials and
[34:32]
services budget relatively flat but like
[34:36]
everybody else you know
[34:38]
um it it we are seeing cost increases
[34:42]
that are general cost increases but I
[34:44]
think the the Staffing costs are a big
[34:46]
issue at the police department
[34:49]
um
[34:50]
I think it's important to remember we're
[34:51]
a service organization and that's people
[34:53]
and it does cost to have people and to
[34:57]
have the you know the salaries the
[35:00]
benefits all of that
[35:02]
and then this is for the chief uh and I
[35:04]
probably know this but DHS is that
[35:07]
what's the acronym stand for Department
[35:09]
of Human Services so it's it's uh you
[35:12]
know we're taking Homeland Security for
[35:14]
a second I was like no that that can't
[35:15]
be it so yeah yeah I mean you'll see in
[35:18]
the in the graphs and such that uh the
[35:20]
number of calls kind of have remained
[35:22]
the same increased a little bit but the
[35:25]
nature of the calls um that we're
[35:27]
dealing with in regards to what we used
[35:29]
to deal with have become a lot more
[35:31]
complex
[35:33]
um what DHS referrals that's that's
[35:35]
child welfare is is um uh but more
[35:39]
seriousness crimes that we're
[35:41]
investigating mental health aspect
[35:43]
um of course the healthlessness so a lot
[35:47]
of these components are taking up a lot
[35:49]
of majority of our time leaving us to we
[35:52]
unfortunately is is we're a reactive
[35:54]
department and that's something that
[35:56]
Lebanon Police Department
[35:58]
in a in a hole is never uh we've always
[36:02]
prided ourselves on being proactive
[36:05]
um well these last couple years we've
[36:07]
been slowly going into the just the
[36:10]
reactive side of things and that's just
[36:12]
due to the the amount of officers that
[36:14]
we have lost and
[36:16]
um and just the lack of resources that
[36:19]
we've had available to us
[36:22]
um
[36:22]
yeah one thing I found interesting is
[36:24]
the national average and I put that in
[36:26]
there just for you guys to review
[36:29]
um it shows that national average is
[36:30]
what 2.2 per month out 2.2 officers per
[36:33]
1000
[36:35]
um right now if I was fully staffed that
[36:38]
leaves us with 1.6
[36:40]
so we're below average and I take that
[36:43]
26 number and that includes myself that
[36:46]
includes all of my administrative staff
[36:48]
and detectives you take them out of the
[36:50]
mix
[36:51]
that leaves us with 19 Patrol
[36:54]
that leaves us below one
[36:58]
so we're like a point I'm not a
[37:01]
mathematician but if I was to do it
[37:03]
definitely is below one percent or one
[37:06]
per 1000 population so definitely are
[37:10]
way below national average
[37:12]
and as we're seeing
[37:15]
within the city the livability issues
[37:17]
and that's strictly what we deal with
[37:19]
the thefts are increasing burglaries are
[37:22]
increasing stolen cars are increasing
[37:24]
and that's just that goes along with not
[37:27]
enough
[37:28]
there to react to what's going on out
[37:31]
there
[37:34]
I I had a question uh I understand that
[37:37]
2.2 and 1.6 and when you strip out the
[37:40]
overhead folks it's like 0.8 yeah how does that compare with the rest of
[37:47]
the valley I mean
[37:49]
we can't be the only ones that are
[37:51]
suffering this
[37:52]
I don't think we're the only ones
[37:54]
suffering this I don't think we're I
[37:55]
think we're definitely one that are this
[37:57]
low
[37:58]
for sure
[38:01]
I I would note some of the rest of the
[38:04]
valley communities have put in place
[38:07]
fees on utility bills and they are
[38:10]
paying for police officers with that
[38:13]
or they have a local option Levy that is
[38:15]
funding police officers and and those
[38:19]
two solutions seem to be
[38:22]
um uh what a lot of communities are
[38:24]
doing to try and increase their their
[38:26]
Public Safety Staffing I I also will
[38:29]
note that with the increased complexity
[38:32]
of the calls that the police department
[38:34]
is going on
[38:35]
it becomes uh critical to have more than
[38:39]
one officer responding uh it's it's a
[38:42]
you know one officer pulls you over to
[38:44]
give you a speeding ticket but if you're
[38:46]
on a domestic if you're working on
[38:48]
livability issue you've got mental
[38:49]
health issues you need at least two
[38:51]
officers and sometimes you need four to
[38:54]
make sure that that the person you're
[38:57]
working with is safe and your officers
[38:59]
are safe and I think that is
[39:02]
uh I think that is driving the need for
[39:06]
more officers uh in in all communities
[39:10]
and I you know we're not we're not alone
[39:12]
in dealing with with these challenges
[39:14]
and the continued lack of Mental Health
[39:16]
Resources uh that can that that is a
[39:20]
challenge for everybody in the state of
[39:23]
Oregon right now right I'm just
[39:24]
wondering if we're facing this alone or
[39:26]
if or how other people are are handling
[39:29]
this situation
[39:31]
just food for thought what we might do
[39:34]
yeah I mean there's there's always you
[39:36]
know I meet with other local
[39:38]
jurisdictions on a bi-monthly basis and
[39:41]
I mean some they're facing some of the
[39:44]
same challenges we are when it comes to
[39:46]
mental health and and lack of resources
[39:48]
like every other agency is and I'm not
[39:51]
saying that we're the only one but I
[39:54]
think it's imperative to understand that
[39:55]
we're are pretty much the only one
[39:57]
that's this low
[39:59]
and and I think that's something that
[40:01]
you know is something that we all need
[40:03]
to understand and then there needs to
[40:05]
come to a point where everything that
[40:08]
the Lebanon Police Department's known
[40:09]
for community policing Outreach
[40:12]
proactivity things of that nature is
[40:14]
slowly being diminished slowly going
[40:16]
away because I don't have the resources
[40:18]
simply put to to address those I have to
[40:22]
respond to calls that's the number one
[40:24]
priority right well you haven't had the
[40:26]
resources for a while no I mean and just
[40:28]
to mention yes I have hired people but
[40:30]
it's going to take them probably another
[40:31]
8 18 months before they're legitimately
[40:34]
out on their own and being productive
[40:36]
members of the police department not
[40:38]
saying they're not productive now or or
[40:39]
appreciated but right now they're just
[40:43]
being trained so and that's just the
[40:45]
process that we have to go through right
[40:46]
there's no quick fix to this no it's
[40:49]
been a slow and steady climb I mean
[40:51]
we're we're getting there and
[40:54]
um you know we're seeing the light at
[40:56]
the end of the tunnel I wish the light
[40:57]
was a lot brighter but it is what it is
[41:01]
um but we're getting there good right
[41:09]
introducing a levy to address the jail
[41:14]
we have not but that is something that I
[41:17]
think is in the future to discuss is
[41:19]
something a local Levy to address just the gel I don't necessarily want it
[41:25]
to be a police operational operational
[41:28]
but if it could if it could address that
[41:30]
piece it would it would address some of
[41:33]
the other issues by default that a
[41:37]
hundred percent agree yeah if we can
[41:39]
open up the jail and be able to house
[41:41]
individuals and hold them accountable
[41:43]
for committing some of the local thefts
[41:46]
and things of that nature I mean we can
[41:48]
you can see in the grass kind of where
[41:51]
the crime was starting to come down our
[41:53]
jail was open
[41:55]
um the traffic offenses were going down
[41:57]
because I had people out there dedicated
[41:59]
to traffic so you can see when when
[42:02]
things are in place and operating as
[42:04]
they should be crime rate goes down
[42:06]
things go down we're being more
[42:08]
proactive so in regards to the jail
[42:10]
absolutely if we were able to
[42:12]
somehow find a way to fund the jail the
[42:15]
way that it needs to be funded and have
[42:17]
the dedicated employees just strictly
[42:20]
for the jail that would definitely start
[42:23]
we just definitely start seeing a
[42:24]
decrease in livability issue thefts and
[42:28]
things of that nature because we'd be
[42:29]
able to hold people accountable I was a
[42:31]
long-winded answer wasn't it that was
[42:33]
really long
[42:34]
I can keep going
[42:36]
no I can't say
[42:40]
it's largely
[42:42]
of the police department and I think
[42:44]
that that would be something worthy of
[42:47]
exploring and because we we do have high
[42:49]
expectations of you because we we have a
[42:51]
good history of of response and of
[42:55]
service from the Lebanon Police
[42:56]
Department but that I mean having been
[42:59]
part of that that jail decision and
[43:02]
seeing the impact on the city
[43:05]
um I think it really behooves us to
[43:07]
painfully explore how to get that back
[43:10]
open yeah and I fully agree with you I'm
[43:13]
not very good at math or algebra but is
[43:16]
there a way to quantify what it costs us
[43:17]
to not have a jail
[43:19]
is there any well you can see together
[43:21]
to get an idea what it cost not to have
[43:23]
a jail yeah uh well you can see in the
[43:25]
budget the the cuts that have been made
[43:28]
um if if again it's you're talking 750
[43:32]
000 roughly for personnel and medical so
[43:35]
there's 750. if we had a jail what cost
[43:39]
would we be eliminating is there a way
[43:41]
to quantify that
[43:42]
I mean
[43:43]
or is that oh this algebra yeah that's
[43:47]
this that's yeah that's your algebra
[43:48]
thing you still have I mean yeah you
[43:50]
could take materials and services which
[43:51]
is roughly about fifty thousand dollars
[43:54]
so
[43:55]
but I don't think you can put a price on
[43:57]
safety and I don't think you can
[43:59]
definitely put a price would we be safer
[44:00]
how would we be safer in Lebanon if we
[44:03]
had a jail right now how would we be
[44:05]
safe would we be able to put people in
[44:06]
jail
[44:07]
again
[44:09]
and help people accountable instead of
[44:11]
the heavy lifting of the cost of having
[44:13]
the J having to have a jail what's it
[44:15]
costing us to not have a jail that
[44:17]
serves us I can see the difference so I
[44:19]
guess kind of rhetorical question but I
[44:21]
agree we need to we need to explore that
[44:23]
and find a way that that's a priority
[44:25]
and not just brush that off yeah I think
[44:28]
where he's going is uh how many fewer
[44:30]
water snakes would we have how many
[44:32]
fewer I see what you're saying would we
[44:34]
have and we could probably figure that
[44:36]
within reason based on prior statistics
[44:40]
where it was open and that's that's some
[44:42]
of the things that again if some of the
[44:44]
graphs will show a kind of a decrease
[44:46]
when we had the gel up and we had that
[44:48]
we definitely had a decrease in the
[44:50]
amount of thefts and larceny and kind of
[44:52]
the livability issues this the low level
[44:55]
crimes misdemeanor offenses that were
[44:57]
going on
[44:59]
um so because they didn't want to go to
[45:01]
11 in jail they didn't want to go to
[45:02]
jail so and we were able to hold them
[45:04]
accountable but without that without
[45:06]
that useful tool in Lebanon is extremely
[45:09]
unique or one of the very few
[45:11]
municipalities that has the capability
[45:14]
and has a jail and lebanon's gel is by
[45:18]
far one of the best gels in the state
[45:21]
far as municipality wise goes if you've
[45:23]
gone around and toured other ones we
[45:25]
have the most state-of-the-art equipment
[45:27]
and and it's set up perfectly
[45:30]
if we only had the Personnel to run it
[45:32]
so it also helped with the homeless I'm
[45:35]
just I'm just want to be on record that
[45:36]
I'd support it might be a heavy lift but
[45:38]
I'm I'm behind lifting it if we can
[45:41]
yeah I'm sorry I did yeah I was I I
[45:44]
he'll support you too I figured you
[45:47]
would yeah absolutely Chief you you said
[45:49]
were seven or you've hired seven
[45:52]
officers with their recent hire where
[45:55]
does that put it is that seventh
[45:57]
position fully staffed as far as sworn
[46:00]
officers uh no I need two more two more
[46:04]
and then I'll be fully staffed this is
[46:06]
the does the budget for 23 24 account
[46:09]
for two more yes yeah that the budget
[46:13]
will give us fully a fully staffed
[46:14]
Police Department right yeah that will
[46:16]
give me 42 total employees correct yeah
[46:20]
okay I have a question so um actually
[46:23]
two questions first uh looking at the
[46:25]
types of crimes per year I've seen
[46:27]
narcotics is down is this is kind of a
[46:29]
leading question but is that due to
[46:30]
measure 110. that is a 100 reflection of
[46:34]
measure 110.
[46:36]
um where drugs and narcotics are very
[46:39]
prevalent in our community there's not a lot that we can do with that um
[46:43]
there's it's not a it basically is not a
[46:46]
crime you get a a citation that you
[46:49]
don't have to appear in and don't have
[46:50]
to pay for so yes to answer the question
[46:52]
it's gone down because it's basically no
[46:56]
longer criminalized
[46:57]
okay which is a very sad sad thing I
[47:00]
agree I agree
[47:02]
um the the second question is uh looking
[47:04]
at the types of crimes crimes I guess it
[47:07]
says mental um and that clearly has like
[47:10]
a a pretty huge Spike there it looks
[47:12]
like almost 200.
[47:14]
um
[47:15]
how how are how is
[47:18]
how are the police officers equipped to
[47:20]
deal or to work through a mental health
[47:22]
call Art um especially now that we're
[47:25]
going to have you know seven seven new
[47:27]
people I just want to make sure that
[47:29]
they're receiving what they need to to
[47:31]
answer those particularly challenging
[47:33]
calls I imagine yeah so there is
[47:36]
training that's out there available
[47:38]
um that we try to send the officers to try to equip them with the most tools
[47:42]
that they can have when it comes to
[47:44]
dealing with mental health but no matter
[47:46]
how much training that we provide them
[47:49]
they're still not going to be that
[47:50]
individual or they're not going to have
[47:52]
the expertise to to do so so but we do
[47:56]
train them to the best we can on
[47:59]
um you'll notice also within the there
[48:02]
was materials and services under
[48:04]
training we did have to reduce some of
[48:06]
that
[48:07]
um training that is specialized that
[48:10]
specialize what we consider specialized
[48:12]
training is mental health
[48:14]
dealing with the mentally health uh
[48:16]
individuals so
[48:18]
um so we're going to have to figure out
[48:20]
other ways in other avenues we do rely
[48:23]
heavily on Lane County Mental Health so
[48:27]
they they do offer some some trainees
[48:29]
and they do have Outreach but
[48:31]
unfortunately like the rest of society
[48:34]
they had a hard time trying to fill
[48:35]
positions and trying to get people up
[48:37]
and trained and trying to get an
[48:38]
Outreach team together
[48:40]
there's there's a few and there's very
[48:42]
few and far between their servicing Lane
[48:44]
County and there's I think four of them
[48:47]
so wow yeah
[48:50]
I'd like to come back and ask the chief
[48:52]
uh I I thought councilor steinhabel
[48:54]
asked a really good question about
[48:56]
narcotics arrests the flip side of that
[48:59]
ballpark increased use of Narcan oh
[49:03]
because I I know that that has been and
[49:06]
is an ongoing issue yeah
[49:09]
um Narcan is I don't know if you guys
[49:11]
are familiar with what Narcan does okay
[49:14]
um but yeah we we've definitely since
[49:17]
measure 110 has passed we've had a very
[49:19]
steady increase on the usage of officers
[49:22]
responding to
[49:24]
individuals who are unresponsive
[49:27]
overdosing and have increased our usage
[49:30]
of of use using Narcan
[49:33]
so uh and that's it's it's it's it's not
[49:37]
uncommon for it's a weekly occurrence
[49:39]
but the nasal spray I assume it's the
[49:42]
name yeah it's nasal spray and we occur
[49:45]
the incur that cost then as yeah right
[49:48]
now we don't
[49:49]
um it's kind of paid for already but um
[49:51]
there's gonna come a time when that's
[49:54]
also going to be something that we need
[49:55]
to budget in
[49:57]
um so increase in drug use increases
[49:59]
that overdoses so
[50:02]
I know we see them uh the police come by
[50:05]
the soup kitchen probably once a week we
[50:09]
get the mentally unstable individuals
[50:12]
every day
[50:14]
um and I when watching them you could
[50:17]
tell they're trained and basically about
[50:19]
all they can do really is de-escalate
[50:22]
the folks and kind of move them along
[50:24]
there's not a lot of options unless they
[50:27]
uh act out
[50:29]
and I know we've started the Narcan
[50:32]
thanks to the police over at this over
[50:34]
at the soup kitchen
[50:36]
and we've had to use it over there as
[50:39]
they come in for males we get the same
[50:40]
thing it's a lot more common
[50:43]
it's a shame that my Cooks have to learn
[50:46]
how to be Lifesavers
[50:48]
but that's the reality of where we're at
[50:53]
yeah
[50:54]
well I'm just going to add
[50:56]
um that I just want to say thank you to
[50:58]
you and the police department especially
[51:00]
the admin team of course the officers as
[51:02]
well but I know over this last year
[51:04]
things have been challenging and you've
[51:06]
had to fill in for doing a patrol and as
[51:10]
well as the other like the lieutenants
[51:12]
and certainly Captain Hyde even just the
[51:15]
other night we had a very busy council
[51:16]
meeting and I saw the two lieutenants
[51:18]
here so
[51:19]
um
[51:20]
just thank you for for your persistence
[51:23]
and uh in trying to get us fully staffed
[51:27]
so thank you I appreciate it yeah it's
[51:30]
definitely been here we had a call with
[51:31]
you this morning and you were right
[51:32]
there at Linco thank you well I wasn't
[51:34]
but I would have been John but I wasn't
[51:36]
well I would say if you call them if you
[51:38]
call them with a stolen vehicle it's
[51:40]
shift change
[51:42]
um you'll get a real good response and
[51:45]
you'll get the chief calling you from
[51:46]
around the corner hey where you at
[51:49]
so yeah I I have to say and this is
[51:52]
probably in my in my career uh this last
[51:55]
past year and a half has probably been
[51:57]
one of the most challenging that I've
[51:59]
ever faced um not only looking at it
[52:02]
from a patrol officer's perspective but
[52:04]
also from my own Chief's perspective
[52:07]
um it has been extremely challenging
[52:09]
with low Staffing levels and but the men
[52:13]
and women of your Police Department
[52:16]
um and they're doing an exceptional job
[52:19]
with what they have up in front of them
[52:22]
and what they're dealing with sometimes
[52:23]
just two of them
[52:25]
I'm out there patrolling the city with
[52:28]
19976 population I think that's the
[52:30]
number but to say that uh
[52:34]
um that's when it it's definitely been a
[52:37]
challenge so but they're doing an
[52:40]
exceptional job
[52:42]
okay any other questions
[52:45]
well I I will make my pitch again like I
[52:48]
do almost every meeting go out and get
[52:51]
with Chief and go out and ride go see
[52:53]
what they do in person you'd just be
[52:55]
amazed at the stuff that they split from
[52:58]
switch to switch when the calls come in
[53:01]
thanks Frank get that
[53:04]
okay next would be Senior Center Kendra
[53:08]
Oliver
[53:16]
good afternoon
[53:19]
um I'll I guess I'll start with the
[53:21]
senior center
[53:22]
um it's on page 48 if you wanted to
[53:25]
follow along
[53:27]
um just hit some highlights here we have
[53:30]
2.25 FTE in the senior center budget
[53:33]
it's 0.75 for the director position and
[53:38]
actually a good chunk of that is used
[53:40]
for match for the lynx Transit program
[53:44]
for one of our federal grants
[53:47]
we have a full-time activities uh
[53:50]
coordinator position which Nancy uh
[53:52]
spoke of earlier and then we also have a
[53:55]
0.5 shared position it's a it's a
[53:58]
full-time position but 0.5 is in the
[54:00]
senior center and point five is in the
[54:03]
transit fund and that's for a
[54:05]
coordinator position that helps kind of
[54:06]
see daily operations for both
[54:08]
departments a couple of highlights uh
[54:11]
this coming fiscal year in the budget
[54:13]
there is 25 000 in revenue for two older
[54:18]
Americans act funds grants
[54:21]
um one is for fifteen thousand dollars
[54:22]
for the evidence-based programs that
[54:24]
Nancy touched on earlier it's research
[54:27]
based that if seniors come partake two
[54:29]
to three times a week for 45 to 60
[54:32]
minutes of exercise
[54:34]
for eight to twelve weeks some research
[54:36]
shows that they have increased Mobility
[54:39]
increased muscle strength greater
[54:41]
balance and so on
[54:44]
um we did have a grant for
[54:46]
evidence-based programs this fiscal year
[54:48]
this current year we received 8 500
[54:51]
we to date we have implemented two
[54:54]
classes and we're kicking off a third
[54:57]
evidence-based program in June it's a
[54:59]
walk with these program it's been very
[55:02]
successful so we're very pleased that
[55:04]
when we applied for these grants for
[55:06]
next fiscal year that they gave us a
[55:07]
little bit of a bump in funding so we'll
[55:10]
be looking at other programs that we can
[55:12]
offer as well
[55:13]
we also received a grant for ten
[55:16]
thousand dollars for an iPad purchase
[55:18]
through older Americans act funds this
[55:21]
is to help address the loneliness and
[55:23]
combat isolation help keep seniors
[55:27]
um in touch with family through Facebook
[55:31]
Zoom email whatever the case may be so
[55:34]
we have some plans to put that Grant to
[55:36]
good use as a result I mean we'll see a
[55:40]
slight increase in materials and
[55:41]
services which is directly related to
[55:43]
receiving these funds it's about twenty
[55:46]
thousand dollars in materials and
[55:47]
services and then the other five
[55:50]
thousand dollars that we'll be receiving
[55:51]
will go toward helping offset staff time
[55:55]
for instructing those classes
[55:59]
um Nancy also touched that we're you
[56:01]
know getting closer to our pre-covered
[56:03]
numbers
[56:04]
um one thing I like to say is um you
[56:06]
know when people think of senior centers
[56:08]
they think oh yep people come to play
[56:10]
Bingo that's a lot of fun and but you
[56:12]
know we are we are more than Bingo we do
[56:15]
put a lot of thought into our
[56:16]
programming we actually have seven Focus
[56:18]
areas and we try to offer a wide array
[56:20]
of programming again Nancy touched on
[56:22]
some of those things we do
[56:25]
um you know we put our newsletter out
[56:26]
there on Facebook and on our City
[56:30]
website I could go on and on and on
[56:32]
about the programming but I'll try to
[56:34]
work through all the information
[56:36]
um
[56:37]
Cascades West Council of governments
[56:39]
uses our space in the senior center we
[56:41]
have a large kitchen area
[56:43]
they this year they will provide almost
[56:48]
40 000 meals two seniors in our
[56:51]
community that's both in-house we have a
[56:54]
meal site at the senior center and they
[56:56]
also deliver Meals on Wheels and that's
[56:59]
about over just over 160 meals each
[57:02]
weekday that that they're providing
[57:06]
um I have a a couple pages of
[57:09]
unsolicited testimonials I'll spare you
[57:11]
on that as well I'm happy to share it
[57:13]
with Nancy and can push it out but
[57:14]
really really
[57:16]
um a lot of great things that our senior
[57:18]
center staff and Link staff are doing
[57:21]
making some invaluable connections and
[57:25]
helping people age healthy and live
[57:28]
independently as long as they possibly
[57:30]
can our staff's doing some great stuff
[57:32]
but again I can share that with Nancy so
[57:35]
you guys can see some of the things that people said some of it's really
[57:40]
tugs at your heartstrings
[57:42]
um so with that I can move on to Transit
[57:45]
if you'd like unless somebody has
[57:46]
specific questions about the senior
[57:47]
center
[57:48]
just don't don't diss Bingo come on
[57:51]
right no no so we were meeting in our
[57:55]
heritage room
[57:57]
um and we actually had to move it down
[57:59]
into our Auditorium because the group
[58:01]
has gotten so large
[58:02]
um you can't get around with the Walkers
[58:04]
and wheelchairs so
[58:06]
um at any rate we just did that a few
[58:07]
weeks ago so yes don't don't diss the
[58:10]
bingo bingo is fun
[58:12]
it is
[58:14]
okay so we'll move on to Transit
[58:17]
um Pages 86 and 87. uh a couple of
[58:20]
highlights that I'll mention
[58:22]
um I think I did include this in a
[58:23]
manager report but I'll go ahead and
[58:25]
mention it again uh every three four
[58:27]
years
[58:29]
um each Transit provider in the state of
[58:30]
Oregon is required to go through and
[58:33]
audit with ODOT so it's a complimentary
[58:36]
audit just to make sure that we're in
[58:37]
compliance with everything we have a lot
[58:39]
of policies in place and you know things
[58:41]
are Ever Changing uh so ODOT and their
[58:45]
Consultants came down to take a look at
[58:47]
our operations they looked at our Ada
[58:49]
policy and operations they looked at our
[58:51]
operations manual they looked at our
[58:53]
title VI policies which includes you
[58:55]
know LEP
[58:57]
um they looked at our financial policies
[58:59]
Brandon helped out with that a bit
[59:01]
looked at our procurement policy some of
[59:04]
our recent purchases vehicle maintenance
[59:05]
and they only had a few recommendations
[59:08]
for us to make in our regional transit
[59:10]
coordinator at the our regional transit
[59:12]
coordinator at ODOT at the time said
[59:14]
that was the fewest number of
[59:15]
recommendations that you know they had
[59:18]
ever seen as they had been going through
[59:20]
uh other
[59:22]
audit processes so
[59:24]
we're pretty pleased with that
[59:26]
um another highlight we have a new low
[59:29]
no emissions Fleet transition plan
[59:33]
um we did apply for funding for an
[59:35]
electric van of course Oregon and you'll
[59:38]
see this you know Across the Nation
[59:39]
where you know we're trying to reduce
[59:41]
carbon emissions so we do have a plan in
[59:44]
place it doesn't mean with each and
[59:45]
every new bus that we're purchasing it's
[59:47]
going to be an electric vehicle we have
[59:49]
one van and we have eight cutaway
[59:51]
Vehicles the Cutaway vehicles are more
[59:54]
difficult to find
[59:56]
you know an electric form so as they
[59:59]
become more available as funding is
[1:00:01]
available that will be a priority for us
[1:00:04]
um at any rate we do have that plan it
[1:00:06]
was a requirement
[1:00:08]
um for applying for that for that Grant
[1:00:12]
um a couple other highlights and I'm
[1:00:14]
sure you've read this in department
[1:00:16]
manager reports last fiscal year we were
[1:00:19]
over just over 30 000 rides which was a
[1:00:21]
36 increase over any other fiscal year
[1:00:24]
this fiscal year we will probably hit
[1:00:27]
the 48 000 ride Mark which is a 59
[1:00:31]
increase over the last fiscal year
[1:00:35]
um crazy so um you know part of that is
[1:00:38]
uh because we started the Brownsville
[1:00:40]
connector last June
[1:00:42]
um that service runs two days a week
[1:00:44]
runs five Loops to Brownsville and back
[1:00:48]
um it has been well received the numbers
[1:00:50]
are growing we're getting regular
[1:00:51]
writers from Brownsville it's a great
[1:00:52]
service it's something that the Lynn
[1:00:55]
County Transit advisory advisory
[1:00:56]
committee has talked about for a number
[1:00:58]
of years it's filling in the gaps uh you
[1:01:01]
know an unmet need in our community so
[1:01:04]
it's going very well
[1:01:06]
um
[1:01:07]
we are also still not charging fares and
[1:01:11]
that's something that a lot of Transit
[1:01:13]
providers
[1:01:15]
um have been doing since covet hit we
[1:01:18]
started collecting or excuse me we've
[1:01:20]
stopped collecting fares and passes just
[1:01:22]
because of covid and a lot of the
[1:01:24]
providers have still just kind of hung
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on to that as a matter of fact Albany
[1:01:28]
just announced a week ago a week and a
[1:01:30]
half ago that they're not gonna
[1:01:32]
reinstate collecting fares
[1:01:35]
our thought behind this then with
[1:01:36]
talking with Nancy
[1:01:38]
um and ODOT is we will revisit the fair
[1:01:41]
structure when we look at expanding our
[1:01:44]
Loop service that's our deviated fixed
[1:01:46]
route service right now we have a loop
[1:01:49]
service that runs through town it stops
[1:01:51]
at Walmart and Safeway and has seven
[1:01:53]
stops in town we do nine Loops a day
[1:01:56]
that's our most efficient mode of
[1:01:58]
service our other services demand
[1:02:00]
response and we have four or five
[1:02:02]
vehicles out every day picking people up
[1:02:04]
going to their homes of course we do
[1:02:06]
group people and you know get them to
[1:02:07]
medical appointments or shopping but
[1:02:10]
again the deviated fixed route is our
[1:02:12]
most efficient mode of service so it
[1:02:14]
just kind of makes sense you know if we
[1:02:16]
were to expand that service maybe have
[1:02:17]
an East and a West Loop
[1:02:19]
um you know then the demand on demand
[1:02:21]
response will go down a little bit
[1:02:22]
um at any rate that's when we'll look at
[1:02:24]
that fair structure to see what makes
[1:02:25]
the most sense
[1:02:27]
and if we want to reinstate it or what
[1:02:30]
we want to do there
[1:02:33]
um regarding budget for Transit you'll
[1:02:36]
see things
[1:02:37]
um Revenue side and obviously expense
[1:02:39]
side or a little bit higher we have
[1:02:40]
quite a few Capital
[1:02:42]
um purchases and a larger Capital
[1:02:45]
project in our in our budget this year
[1:02:49]
um just kind of looking at Revenue I
[1:02:51]
thought maybe it would be helpful to do
[1:02:52]
just a bit of a breakdown to see you
[1:02:54]
know between federal and state grants
[1:02:55]
what that funding is comprised of
[1:02:58]
about 187 000 are federal grants for
[1:03:01]
operations
[1:03:04]
um that includes our 5311 Grant cares
[1:03:06]
act fund
[1:03:08]
um some funding to address cobit 19.
[1:03:13]
um we have 848 000 for operations all of
[1:03:18]
this funding is through the Statewide
[1:03:19]
Transportation Improvement fund
[1:03:22]
um that is House Bill 2017 which when
[1:03:26]
they implemented the point zero one
[1:03:28]
percent payroll tax for anybody who
[1:03:30]
works in the state of Oregon and it was
[1:03:32]
designated specifically for new and
[1:03:34]
enhanced transportation service it
[1:03:36]
couldn't you know take over anything
[1:03:38]
that we were doing previously so 677
[1:03:42]
000 of that is for our Loop deviated
[1:03:45]
fixed route our Saturday service our
[1:03:48]
expanded hours are serving up to five
[1:03:51]
miles outside City Limits which includes
[1:03:52]
the communities of Waterloo sodaville
[1:03:55]
and Crabtree
[1:03:57]
um it includes a hundred and two
[1:03:58]
thousand dollars for serving outlying
[1:04:00]
communities and that was when I spoke to
[1:04:02]
the Brownsville connector piece that's
[1:04:04]
what that is slated for and then there's
[1:04:07]
69 000 for operations and that's the
[1:04:09]
population
[1:04:11]
um based piece of the Statewide
[1:04:14]
Transportation Improvement funds
[1:04:16]
kind of a mouthful
[1:04:18]
um twenty thousand dollars as a Federal
[1:04:20]
grant for preventive maintenance
[1:04:22]
um for our vehicles
[1:04:25]
um four hundred and ninety thousand
[1:04:26]
dollars in federal grants for Capital
[1:04:28]
purchases which includes an electric van
[1:04:30]
a cutaway vehicle some dispatching
[1:04:33]
software and improvements to our park
[1:04:36]
and Oak stop
[1:04:37]
the bus stop that we share with the
[1:04:39]
Lynch shuttle I'll stop let's pause for
[1:04:41]
the train
[1:04:43]
[Music]
[1:04:46]
they knew we were here so they came by
[1:04:48]
[Music]
[1:05:07]
it's a real trainers
[1:05:15]
Petticoat Junction
[1:05:23]
this one's a real train
[1:05:26]
foreign
[1:05:30]
having three cars
[1:05:38]
okay all right let's pick it up again
[1:05:41]
thank you for the pause of course
[1:05:44]
um in Revenue just a couple more uh
[1:05:47]
things to mention four hundred and
[1:05:48]
twenty six thousand dollars in Statewide
[1:05:51]
Transportation Improvement fund
[1:05:52]
discretionary grants so that was a
[1:05:55]
competitive process um anybody in Oregon
[1:05:57]
wanted to apply for and that is for
[1:06:00]
um improvements actually to be moving
[1:06:03]
our Fleet to the maintenance shops we're
[1:06:05]
currently
[1:06:06]
um at the police department that the
[1:06:08]
Justice Center parking lot
[1:06:10]
um we've been outgrowing that space for
[1:06:12]
some time and certainly the police
[1:06:13]
department could use the space that were
[1:06:16]
you we've been utilizing since they
[1:06:17]
opened up
[1:06:19]
um so that will provide funding for site
[1:06:23]
work Paving a shop door pit work for
[1:06:26]
working on the vehicles uh and conduit
[1:06:29]
for a future phase two at some point in
[1:06:32]
time when we're looking at Electrify you
[1:06:34]
know starting that process to Electrify
[1:06:36]
our Fleet we'll have the conduit in
[1:06:38]
place to make that happen
[1:06:41]
um it also includes 136 000
[1:06:43]
um dollars in again Statewide
[1:06:46]
Transportation Improvement funds for
[1:06:48]
match for that secure parking and also
[1:06:50]
match for the dispatch software and um
[1:06:54]
just just a side note there
[1:06:56]
um we do have a meeting on June 1st with
[1:06:59]
the Linn County transportation advisory
[1:07:01]
committee
[1:07:02]
um and they will be reviewing and
[1:07:06]
approving allocations for all providers
[1:07:08]
in Linn County so that 136 thousand
[1:07:11]
dollars
[1:07:12]
um in this budget we're hopefully going
[1:07:14]
to get that approved on June 1st
[1:07:18]
um and then of course just kind of going
[1:07:19]
through all the revenue kind of makes
[1:07:21]
sense what's going to be on the expense
[1:07:23]
side of things for some of those capital
[1:07:24]
projects
[1:07:26]
um and that kind of wraps it up for
[1:07:28]
Transit I don't know if anybody has any
[1:07:29]
questions about Transit I know it's
[1:07:33]
a it's a breathtaking Endeavor I I do
[1:07:37]
have one
[1:07:38]
um so a lot of a lot of grant money is
[1:07:40]
coming in and is has been coming in
[1:07:43]
since 21. how much of that do we rely on
[1:07:47]
to actually operate and how much of it
[1:07:49]
is
[1:07:51]
um just like expanding what we have
[1:07:53]
already like if if Nick I say next year
[1:07:56]
we have zero grant money or what what's
[1:07:59]
the situation then
[1:08:01]
um so the really nice thing is that the
[1:08:03]
Statewide Transportation Improvement
[1:08:04]
funds are relatively stable of course
[1:08:07]
what does that mean there's never any
[1:08:08]
guarantee of course
[1:08:10]
um so when I was kind of breaking down
[1:08:12]
those funds um the federal funds I'm
[1:08:15]
going off top of my head now because I
[1:08:16]
have a million papers here but yeah um
[1:08:19]
5311 funding we've had that funding in
[1:08:21]
place since I started with the city back
[1:08:23]
in 2003 2004.
[1:08:26]
um that funding is allocated each year I
[1:08:29]
believe there are 35 providers it's for
[1:08:31]
Rural Transportation
[1:08:33]
um so ODOT gets an allocation each year
[1:08:35]
and then they look at number of rides
[1:08:37]
number of miles
[1:08:39]
um and then they put those numbers in
[1:08:42]
there and then they determine who gets
[1:08:44]
what okay allocated so it's a pretty
[1:08:46]
stable funding source that we can almost
[1:08:47]
count on every year at least it is
[1:08:51]
and given our in ridership and revenue miles and
[1:08:54]
revenue hours
[1:08:56]
um that funding I mean should just it
[1:08:59]
should go up
[1:09:00]
okay thank you yeah
[1:09:02]
you're welcome I have a question and
[1:09:04]
maybe you you're the one to answer and
[1:09:06]
I'm not sure
[1:09:08]
but you just said something rural
[1:09:11]
I have the same question I think yeah
[1:09:13]
now
[1:09:15]
if we break twenty thousand oh certain
[1:09:18]
things changed but I know they don't
[1:09:21]
change in every single category so does
[1:09:25]
it affect you like it would affect over
[1:09:27]
here it for for transportation right
[1:09:30]
it's 50 000 when you become then a
[1:09:33]
metropolitan planning organization okay
[1:09:35]
right and then you move out of 53 11 to
[1:09:38]
53 10. so we have a little bit of a
[1:09:40]
buffer we got years
[1:09:45]
a lot of you guys won't be around
[1:09:48]
um
[1:09:49]
I attended a um a County Commission
[1:09:53]
meeting where you guys were talking
[1:09:54]
about writers per I mean there's there's
[1:09:58]
a measurement for uh four different
[1:10:01]
systems can you like address that just
[1:10:03]
in a brief sure well we have different
[1:10:06]
performance measures so you know there's
[1:10:07]
cost per mile there's cost per Revenue
[1:10:09]
hour there's cost per ride
[1:10:12]
um you know for example if you and I do
[1:10:13]
have them broken out between our loop
[1:10:16]
system our demand response system and
[1:10:18]
our Brownsville connector system so if
[1:10:20]
you're looking at Brownsville connector
[1:10:21]
I mean average
[1:10:23]
um trip is what 13 14 miles so you know
[1:10:27]
those those trips are more expensive
[1:10:30]
um and then you look at our other
[1:10:32]
systems and the deviated fixer up comes
[1:10:35]
in a little bit less than our demand
[1:10:37]
response but you know it is 18 19 20 22
[1:10:41]
dollars per ride that's the actual cost
[1:10:45]
you know all in for providing
[1:10:48]
Transportation but that seems I mean it
[1:10:51]
seems like a lot but it seemed like
[1:10:54]
there were a lot of systems that were
[1:12:53]
our drivers they are so personable so
[1:12:57]
friendly and generally care about the
[1:12:59]
people that we're serving and I I just
[1:13:01]
feel so good about that they do a
[1:13:04]
fabulous job they come by the soup
[1:13:06]
kitchen every Monday Wednesday and
[1:13:08]
Friday just like clockwork because we
[1:13:09]
have the same folks they know who to
[1:13:11]
pick up know where to take them know how
[1:13:13]
to pick them up because everybody has a
[1:13:15]
little different need and it's wonderful
[1:13:17]
it's a great service thanks for saying
[1:13:19]
so thank you thank you
[1:13:22]
okay
[1:13:24]
we want to get into yeah
[1:13:32]
okay why don't we take a 10-minute break
[1:13:34]
let Brent get a hold of our
[1:13:40]
do it
[1:13:45]
oh my God
[1:13:48]
my back hurts
[1:13:50]
I jumped out through the airplanes and
[1:13:52]
it's
[1:13:54]
I have bone on Bones so
[1:13:57]
yeah not a fun thing
[1:14:01]
riveting so excited
[1:14:16]
so I just uh
[1:14:19]
successful
[1:14:21]
some young Christian Oriental gal wanted
[1:14:25]
to fall in love with him
[1:14:29]
I don't know who you don't want to know
[1:14:40]
yeah
[1:14:42]
I don't think too many of them anymore I
[1:14:45]
did it possible
[1:14:54]
what's going on with it
[1:15:02]
that one there I just pulled up on it
[1:15:04]
okay
[1:24:03]
I am told we're back on the air okay
[1:24:07]
good to go
[1:24:09]
all right next will be com Community
[1:24:12]
Development Kelly Hart hi everybody
[1:24:14]
thank you Kelly thank you uh so I'm uh
[1:24:18]
the community development director
[1:24:19]
obviously uh the Community Development
[1:24:21]
Department is made up of three different
[1:24:22]
divisions the planning building and
[1:24:25]
Economic Development Division
[1:24:27]
in total the budget for the Department
[1:24:28]
is just over a million dollars
[1:24:30]
distributed over four different funds
[1:24:32]
and the vast majority of the budget is
[1:24:35]
associated with salaries and benefits
[1:24:37]
for the employees and so we have four
[1:24:41]
full-time employees including myself
[1:24:42]
within the department and as part of our
[1:24:45]
building uh division we contract with a
[1:24:48]
building official for building official
[1:24:50]
duties and inspection services
[1:24:53]
uh so I'll just sort of run through each
[1:24:55]
of the three divisions to give you some
[1:24:58]
highlights of what we do what we've done
[1:24:59]
and what we're looking forward to for
[1:25:01]
the next year so the planning division
[1:25:03]
provides current and long-range planning
[1:25:06]
services for the city uh the division is
[1:25:09]
responsible for on the current planning
[1:25:11]
side the processing of all land use and
[1:25:14]
development proposals within the city
[1:25:16]
uh to ensure that it meets the
[1:25:18]
Development Goal uh the development code
[1:25:20]
and the goals of the comprehensive plan
[1:25:22]
in 2022 so last year we processed over
[1:25:25]
50 land use permits
[1:25:28]
um and that was a slight increase from
[1:25:30]
the year before
[1:25:32]
and for the current year of 2023 and
[1:25:35]
into the next fiscal year we are
[1:25:38]
expecting to see a bit of a decrease on
[1:25:40]
the land use permits that are going to
[1:25:42]
be processed through our department and
[1:25:44]
that is largely due to the the cost
[1:25:46]
increases from inflation and
[1:25:49]
construction material delays as well as
[1:25:51]
Workforce shortages so we are definitely
[1:25:54]
seeing a decrease in the number of big
[1:25:56]
development applications and proposals
[1:25:58]
coming before us right now
[1:26:01]
um the planning division on the current
[1:26:02]
side also process processes several
[1:26:05]
over-the-counter permit applications
[1:26:07]
such as fencing permits sign permits
[1:26:10]
accessory dwelling units and we also
[1:26:13]
process new single-family homes as
[1:26:16]
over-the-counter permits as well so it
[1:26:18]
doesn't require land use action
[1:26:20]
uh we're also responsible for
[1:26:23]
implementing the city's long-range
[1:26:25]
vision for growth and that's our
[1:26:27]
long-range planning process this is
[1:26:29]
accomplished through the implementation
[1:26:30]
of the action items for the goals and
[1:26:33]
policies that are set forth in our
[1:26:34]
comprehensive plan and through all of
[1:26:37]
the periodic updates we do to that plan
[1:26:40]
starting last year we started to
[1:26:43]
undertake two major updates to the
[1:26:46]
comprehensive plan with our housing
[1:26:48]
production strategy and The Economic
[1:26:50]
Opportunity analysis I'm not going to
[1:26:52]
bore you all with that because you have
[1:26:54]
seen it all over and over and over again
[1:26:57]
but upon adoption by the city council
[1:27:00]
for those two plans that does set up the
[1:27:02]
work plan for the planning Division and
[1:27:05]
The Economic Development Division for
[1:27:08]
the next several years
[1:27:10]
in addition we have seen quite the
[1:27:12]
uptick in the state legislature
[1:27:15]
regarding their interest in housing
[1:27:16]
production and land use regulation and
[1:27:20]
it has been a major focus of theirs this
[1:27:22]
last cycle and so we are anticipating
[1:27:25]
that through that legislation we will be
[1:27:27]
seeing an increase in workload regarding
[1:27:29]
additional reporting procedure
[1:27:31]
modifications and even possible code
[1:27:34]
modifications associated with that and
[1:27:37]
of course it has to be done on the
[1:27:38]
state's timeline
[1:27:40]
um and there's no identified funding
[1:27:43]
source as of yet for that additional
[1:27:45]
work as well
[1:27:46]
uh we also manage in the planning
[1:27:48]
division the community event block grant
[1:27:50]
program for the Lane County low low
[1:27:53]
income housing rehabilitation program
[1:27:56]
um it is budgeted for 150 000 for this
[1:27:59]
next fiscal year but that is countered
[1:28:01]
with a revenue Source through the
[1:28:03]
program as well and we contract with the
[1:28:06]
dev Northwest to administer that program
[1:28:10]
for us or the fiduciary agent for that
[1:28:14]
for our Building Division we provide
[1:28:16]
plan check review Services building
[1:28:19]
permit issuance and inspection services
[1:28:21]
through to our building permit final and
[1:28:24]
that is to ensure that all development
[1:28:26]
in the city meets the building code
[1:28:28]
requirements for safe occupancy of our
[1:28:30]
residents and business owners
[1:28:32]
to complete the building plan check and
[1:28:34]
inspection services we employ a building
[1:28:36]
official through a contract with
[1:28:39]
Northwest code professionals
[1:28:41]
this contract is the vast majority of
[1:28:43]
the building fund budgets along with a
[1:28:46]
portion of the salaries for Two permit
[1:28:48]
technicians that review the submittals
[1:28:51]
issue the permits and also maintain all
[1:28:53]
of our permitting records
[1:28:55]
last year the building division issued
[1:28:58]
691 permits with a total project
[1:29:01]
valuation of 40.6 million dollars of
[1:29:04]
improvement into the community
[1:29:06]
uh in comparison to 2021 this was
[1:29:09]
approximately a hundred less permits
[1:29:11]
that were issued over the entire year so
[1:29:13]
a slight reduction but there's a pretty
[1:29:16]
significant reduction in evaluation of
[1:29:19]
projects by 30 million dollars this
[1:29:22]
basically provides you an indication
[1:29:23]
that work is still being done
[1:29:25]
construction is still being done but
[1:29:27]
there has been a shift there's not large
[1:29:29]
construction projects that are being
[1:29:31]
proposed over and over again it's a lot
[1:29:33]
of the smaller projects so still the
[1:29:35]
workload maintains in the department but
[1:29:37]
less valuation and also when you have
[1:29:40]
less valuation our permit fees are
[1:29:42]
associated to evaluation so there's less
[1:29:45]
Revenue coming in for a similar amount
[1:29:47]
of work as well
[1:29:50]
um and that's work is all done I have to
[1:29:53]
do a shout out for our lovely permit
[1:29:55]
text they have to we have 691 permits
[1:29:58]
that are issued per the last year that
[1:30:01]
usually equates to five or six or seven
[1:30:03]
phone calls per permit to make sure
[1:30:05]
everybody's in informed of what needs to
[1:30:07]
happen and the coordination associated
[1:30:09]
with it so they they handle quite a lot
[1:30:11]
for the for the small team that we have
[1:30:13]
and they do a fantastic job
[1:30:16]
um and finally we have uh the Economic
[1:30:18]
Development Division that ensures that
[1:30:21]
there's a sufficient land and
[1:30:23]
infrastructure to accommodate our build
[1:30:25]
our business and industry development
[1:30:27]
and it also focuses on business growth
[1:30:29]
and retention business recruitment
[1:30:31]
Regional economic growth as well as
[1:30:34]
Workforce Development
[1:30:35]
uh the economic development divisions
[1:30:38]
also the administrator for our downtown
[1:30:41]
building restoration program through
[1:30:43]
that program we issued six grants for
[1:30:46]
fifty thousand dollars a city investment
[1:30:48]
last year and we are currently underway
[1:30:51]
with the new planning with the new cycle
[1:30:53]
this year and we received enough
[1:30:55]
applications for fully funding that
[1:30:57]
Grant cycle again this year
[1:31:00]
um in 2022 the division assisted over
[1:31:03]
120 businesses with resource connection
[1:31:06]
Grant Administration and business
[1:31:08]
startup and expansion efforts the
[1:31:11]
division also partners with several
[1:31:12]
outside agencies to increase the city's
[1:31:16]
capacity for Local Economic Development
[1:31:18]
goals and these Partnerships increase
[1:31:20]
the amount of tools that we have
[1:31:22]
available to address Regional
[1:31:24]
coordination Wetland and Industrial site
[1:31:27]
Readiness resource development Workforce
[1:31:29]
Development local business support as
[1:31:31]
well as business recruitments
[1:31:34]
um we also have a focus on obtaining
[1:31:37]
grants to further economic opportunities
[1:31:39]
within the community last year we
[1:31:41]
brought in over three hundred thousand
[1:31:43]
dollars in Grant Monies to support
[1:31:45]
Economic Development efforts and Direct
[1:31:47]
business support uh to our business
[1:31:49]
community
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and for this coming fiscal year we will
[1:31:54]
continue to leverage those outside
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funding sources we are looking at
[1:31:57]
several different grants that are coming
[1:31:58]
up this fall to achieve additional Grant
[1:32:02]
monies coming in for the the economic
[1:32:03]
development purposes and then we also
[1:32:06]
will be focusing on implementing the
[1:32:08]
large number of action items that are
[1:32:11]
contributed Through The Economic
[1:32:12]
Opportunity analysis
[1:32:15]
um the Staffing and support for the
[1:32:17]
economic development decision division
[1:32:18]
is myself and we also have an economic
[1:32:21]
development Catalyst and the budget for
[1:32:24]
that division is largely related to
[1:32:26]
salaries and benefits with minor
[1:32:28]
materials and services included
[1:32:31]
and with that I can answer any questions
[1:32:34]
anybody have any questions I would just
[1:32:37]
say that as far as on behalf of the
[1:32:40]
chamber I rely on being able to
[1:32:43]
um I guess call out and ask for
[1:32:45]
assistance and use the city's Economic
[1:32:48]
Development Department as a resource and
[1:32:50]
that has and I've never been
[1:32:52]
disappointed I think I I recommend you
[1:32:54]
guys for that I do have a question on
[1:32:56]
the um the there's a significant
[1:32:59]
materials and services decrease from
[1:33:01]
what what is that
[1:33:03]
can you do you know yeah in our efforts
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to
[1:33:07]
um cut around the edges for for a
[1:33:09]
reduction of budget this year we did
[1:33:11]
take out a significant budget for
[1:33:14]
training and conferences that that would
[1:33:17]
provide us with the networking
[1:33:18]
assistance and being able to further our
[1:33:21]
training for for grant writing
[1:33:24]
um and also through owida Grant Services
[1:33:28]
as well thank you
[1:33:31]
real quick I had a question
[1:33:33]
um the six
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grants that we give away for the 50 000
[1:33:37]
is that come from the general fund no
[1:33:39]
that's funded through the transient
[1:33:41]
lodging tax of the motel tax the right
[1:33:44]
okay thank you
[1:33:47]
foreign I want to compliment you also I
[1:33:50]
will say with our non-profit when we've
[1:33:52]
been looking at buildings and places to
[1:33:55]
go
[1:33:56]
I make a phone call and her she or her
[1:33:59]
officer there giving us advice giving us
[1:34:02]
parameters to work within and things to
[1:34:04]
look at and we're even looking at
[1:34:07]
building a building and she made sure
[1:34:10]
that where we were looking is a place
[1:34:12]
that we could do it and then sent me all
[1:34:14]
the requirements for it so we can get
[1:34:16]
pre-armed when we start trying to make
[1:34:19]
our decisions and it's very very helpful
[1:34:21]
to have that and someone with a weird
[1:34:24]
sense of humor makes it easier for me to
[1:34:26]
operate with so I appreciate that very
[1:34:29]
much
[1:34:33]
I don't talk to you do I
[1:34:37]
thank you very much thank you Kelly
[1:34:41]
okay Information Technology Brent
[1:34:45]
and please speak English not Tech
[1:34:51]
AJ I will try okay
[1:34:55]
so I manage the it and GIS departments
[1:34:58]
here the city there are six of us total
[1:35:01]
one of us does GIS primarily and the
[1:35:03]
rest of us try and keep computers
[1:35:04]
running
[1:35:06]
we also contract with the fire district
[1:35:09]
to provide I.T services and phone
[1:35:12]
support for them as well
[1:35:13]
one of the big projects we we worked on
[1:35:15]
in fiscal year 2023 here this year has
[1:35:19]
been that new build they're doing over
[1:35:21]
on Oak Street
[1:35:22]
and that will continue for the next
[1:35:25]
fiscal year there's quite a bit of work
[1:35:28]
to help get that building outfitted for
[1:35:31]
them
[1:35:33]
on the city Side last year we really
[1:35:35]
focused on cyber security upgrades
[1:35:38]
so last spring our insurance provider
[1:35:41]
came out with a new set of requirements
[1:35:42]
for qualifying for cyber security
[1:35:44]
insurance which resulted in a discussion
[1:35:47]
about what level of cyber security
[1:35:49]
Insurance do we want we decided to go
[1:35:52]
for a higher tier so that we were
[1:35:54]
protected better if we had an incident
[1:35:57]
and using some of the arpa dollars we
[1:36:00]
were able to buy a new hardware software
[1:36:02]
training tools assessments and met that
[1:36:06]
so kind of hit two goals protecting the
[1:36:09]
city better training staff as well as
[1:36:11]
giving us better insurance
[1:36:14]
uh our budget for next year for fiscal
[1:36:17]
year 2024 is really
[1:36:19]
fairly consistent with 2023 there is an
[1:36:23]
increase and that increase is largely
[1:36:25]
due to a project that we're planning on
[1:36:28]
doing for the scada the waste water and
[1:36:30]
the water treatment plants to modernize
[1:36:32]
those systems it will help increase
[1:36:35]
operator efficiencies as far as how they
[1:36:37]
can get to the controls use them as well
[1:36:40]
as it will modernize some of our
[1:36:42]
security layers down there
[1:36:44]
hmm
[1:36:45]
on GIS side in 2023 fiscal year this
[1:36:49]
last year we finished about a 15 to 18
[1:36:52]
month project to do our water
[1:36:53]
distribution system so we upgraded that
[1:36:56]
system that gives the guys engineering
[1:36:59]
and Public Works planning primarily
[1:37:02]
better tools to work on the
[1:37:05]
infrastructure of the city plan upgrades
[1:37:07]
and it just meet like development
[1:37:11]
requests and different requests the city
[1:37:13]
has for this next year they're smaller
[1:37:16]
projects but we hope to get the storm
[1:37:18]
and the sewer systems also upgraded
[1:37:21]
and kind of cut our teeth on the water
[1:37:23]
distribution upgrade and I think that we
[1:37:26]
should get both of those done this next
[1:37:27]
year
[1:37:29]
another project we have is our
[1:37:33]
ci.lebanon.org.us email address that
[1:37:36]
always takes people multiple times to
[1:37:38]
get
[1:37:38]
I think it was 2017 we registered for
[1:37:42]
lebanonoregon.gov and our website is
[1:37:44]
lebanonoregon.gov and it's always been
[1:37:46]
one of those projects that would be nice
[1:37:48]
to get to and I think in the light of
[1:37:50]
everything that we've been doing and and
[1:37:52]
uh
[1:37:53]
you know security Etc it's time to
[1:37:56]
upgrade our domain internally that's a
[1:37:58]
goal we have this year that would make
[1:38:00]
everyone's email address by default
[1:38:02]
lebanonoregon.gov and it would align all
[1:38:04]
the internal services to that web
[1:38:06]
website
[1:38:08]
and lastly and Nancy did note this
[1:38:10]
before in our opening budget message and
[1:38:12]
that is upgrade of our City website just
[1:38:14]
kind of freshen things up give us a
[1:38:16]
professional appearance as a city and
[1:38:18]
provide services to the citizens that we
[1:38:20]
all use digitally now and and want to
[1:38:24]
use
[1:38:25]
that's it for my department so any
[1:38:28]
questions
[1:38:30]
can you go into the upgrade just a
[1:38:32]
little bit I was talking with Nancy
[1:38:35]
about it and it it kind of struck me
[1:38:37]
funny when it said Ada accessibility for
[1:38:40]
and I'll when I think Ada accessibility
[1:38:42]
I think Wide Doors cutouts on the
[1:38:45]
sidewalk things like that I didn't
[1:38:47]
realize we were looking at descriptive
[1:38:49]
audio and that kind of stuff as well
[1:38:52]
correct so
[1:38:55]
with Ada accessibility it's just a set
[1:38:58]
of policies and rules for you know if
[1:39:01]
you have a handicap or you cannot read
[1:39:03]
you need audio assistance are your
[1:39:05]
images tagged properly is are you able
[1:39:09]
to have that website read back to you
[1:39:12]
correctly that is way out of the scope
[1:39:15]
of what my or my staff have the ability
[1:39:17]
to do we work with a contractor right
[1:39:19]
now with we're with Civic plus and I've
[1:39:22]
talked to you about three different
[1:39:23]
vendors this spring about you know what
[1:39:26]
a website upgrade would look like and
[1:39:27]
what tools you have a lot of these guys
[1:39:29]
have dedicated tools it's all they do is
[1:39:32]
focus on scouring the website and saying
[1:39:36]
all right
[1:39:37]
this this is spelled incorrectly or this
[1:39:40]
image doesn't have a tag or if you were
[1:39:42]
coming into this needing assistance you
[1:39:45]
would not be able to get that service
[1:39:46]
correctly
[1:39:48]
yeah it never dawned on me that you know
[1:39:51]
because we we use a mouse and we click
[1:39:52]
on things what if you can't see that
[1:39:55]
yeah
[1:39:56]
so how do you do that and I thought that
[1:40:00]
was pretty interesting not that I'd
[1:40:02]
understand how it's done but it's
[1:40:04]
interesting I know in the in the
[1:40:06]
financial world there's a lot of
[1:40:08]
lawsuits that have that have gone back
[1:40:10]
and forth and you can get sued for not
[1:40:11]
having a a properly Ada uh accessible
[1:40:15]
website so yeah and that's what Nancy
[1:40:18]
brought up to me when I asked her about
[1:40:19]
what what exactly does that mean it's
[1:40:21]
like it's crazy it's called loss
[1:40:23]
prevention yes
[1:40:25]
yeah so risk management that's it
[1:40:29]
okay thank you very much
[1:40:31]
I don't have my email address
[1:40:33]
ci.lebanon.org because I get that goofed
[1:40:36]
up still every time that that is my hope
[1:40:38]
yes
[1:40:40]
exactly just push on the two button
[1:40:43]
it'll give you a list of names you're
[1:40:45]
good okay
[1:40:48]
and now strange we get to see Kim in
[1:40:51]
front and not on the side telling us
[1:40:53]
what to do
[1:41:02]
can you hear me yes
[1:41:05]
um this is going to be short and sweet
[1:41:07]
mine are pretty small so I'm responsible
[1:41:10]
for the mayor and Council
[1:41:12]
um budget and the city recorder budget
[1:41:14]
so mayor and council is on page 38. this
[1:41:18]
fund covers City councilor stipends the
[1:41:21]
iPad data plans organizational wide
[1:41:23]
memberships Council expenses and the
[1:41:26]
Meals on Wheels Grant
[1:41:28]
the proposed budget's 88 137 dollars
[1:41:33]
um there's been a slight increase in
[1:41:34]
organizational and wide membership fees
[1:41:38]
that's really
[1:41:40]
that one any questions
[1:41:45]
I didn't realize the fees to these
[1:41:47]
different
[1:41:49]
groups were so expensive but it looked I
[1:41:52]
would imagine most of the materials and
[1:41:54]
services is memberships to Oregon City
[1:41:57]
Oregon League of organ cities Oregon
[1:41:59]
Cascades West
[1:42:01]
or yeah that's what that covers okay
[1:42:07]
anything else on that one
[1:42:10]
okay now the fun one
[1:42:12]
um City recorder's office so the city
[1:42:14]
recorder's office has two ftes that's
[1:42:17]
the city recorder and the deputy City
[1:42:18]
recorder
[1:42:19]
we're on page 54 sorry forgot to mention
[1:42:22]
that I'm not going to go over all the
[1:42:24]
things we do we sort of work behind the
[1:42:26]
scenes and I wanted to call that out all
[1:42:28]
the different aspects of
[1:42:30]
um things that we do do
[1:42:33]
our budget is 289 074 dollars
[1:42:37]
we had an increase in our materials and
[1:42:41]
services the contract services are up a
[1:42:43]
little this year mainly the one for
[1:42:45]
archiving social media was a pretty big
[1:42:48]
jump
[1:42:49]
um I also want to call out that we have
[1:42:51]
over 18 000 documents in our records
[1:42:54]
management system and you're able to
[1:42:56]
access 13 000 of those documents on our
[1:42:59]
website portal
[1:43:02]
any questions
[1:43:07]
okay thank you
[1:43:12]
that was quick
[1:43:14]
all right Angela soulsby
[1:43:18]
good afternoon I'm another internal
[1:43:21]
service provider so I don't get to see
[1:43:23]
you
[1:43:23]
I often I am here to support the
[1:43:26]
employee group
[1:43:27]
as the human resources department we
[1:43:30]
have two cost centers one Being Human
[1:43:32]
Resources the other being safety and
[1:43:35]
training
[1:43:36]
this fiscal year we accomplished quite a
[1:43:39]
bit I'm sure some of you have heard all
[1:43:41]
about our ADP implementation we're still
[1:43:44]
working through that process that's time
[1:43:46]
in attendance that's to get us compliant
[1:43:48]
with state and federal
[1:43:51]
um time and attendance laws
[1:43:53]
so that's going somewhat better we're
[1:43:56]
still working through our six-month
[1:43:58]
implementation period on that we also
[1:44:00]
onboarded our safety coordinator
[1:44:02]
position that's been a huge benefit I'll
[1:44:05]
give you just a couple of facts and
[1:44:07]
figures on that last year we had a total
[1:44:10]
number of incidents of 13. four of those
[1:44:14]
were recordable incidents those are
[1:44:16]
recordable to OSHA
[1:44:18]
the number of workers comp claims were
[1:44:21]
six and we did have one OSHA violation
[1:44:23]
with one fine attached to that
[1:44:25]
so far this year and knock on wood that
[1:44:28]
it stays low we've only had three
[1:44:30]
incidents we've had one recordable
[1:44:33]
incident and we've had one workers comp
[1:44:35]
claim and zero OSHA violations so our
[1:44:38]
safety coordinator is hard at work
[1:44:41]
with our department directors and our
[1:44:44]
employees getting training and
[1:44:47]
compliance under control we didn't have
[1:44:50]
that position previously so that job
[1:44:52]
fell on the directors we're taking that
[1:44:54]
role away from the directors to help
[1:44:56]
free them up to do their work and then
[1:44:58]
have that safety coordinator then work
[1:45:00]
with the employees and in coordination
[1:45:03]
with the director to manage a lot of the
[1:45:05]
training and compliance issues
[1:45:08]
on the HR side we are working through
[1:45:12]
implementation of a learning system
[1:45:15]
right now we do all of our learning
[1:45:18]
online through CIS we're converting that
[1:45:20]
over to a new module that will be
[1:45:23]
rolling out in the next fiscal year
[1:45:25]
we're also uh working through a
[1:45:27]
conversion from an old recruitment
[1:45:29]
system into a new recruitment system
[1:45:31]
we're rolling that out now we have two
[1:45:34]
new jobs posted on our new career center
[1:45:36]
that's an enhancement
[1:45:38]
one of the enhancements is on the career
[1:45:41]
center we have the opportunity to have a
[1:45:44]
separate career center page for the
[1:45:46]
police department we felt like that
[1:45:48]
would be an enhancement for them because
[1:45:50]
they could customize it you can add
[1:45:52]
videos and photos and messaging so
[1:45:55]
having a unique Police Department
[1:45:57]
website we've worked with the
[1:45:59]
administrative assistant Amy I'm sure
[1:46:01]
you all know her and she's going to
[1:46:03]
start working on that career center page
[1:46:05]
so that when individuals apply for
[1:46:07]
positions at the police department they
[1:46:09]
kind of get a dedicated Career Center
[1:46:10]
Page and then all other positions will
[1:46:13]
be posted on just the regular career
[1:46:14]
center page so they have those some some
[1:46:17]
very unique customizations they can do
[1:46:20]
um coming up pretty soon we're also
[1:46:22]
going to be going into open enrollment
[1:46:23]
there are some changes this year coming
[1:46:26]
up that we're going to be communicating
[1:46:28]
out to employees
[1:46:30]
we have an ongoing project of updating
[1:46:33]
and modifying our job descriptions
[1:46:35]
that's something we're working with our
[1:46:36]
safety coordinator on and that's to get
[1:46:39]
physical requirements added to our job
[1:46:41]
descriptions if there is an injury we
[1:46:44]
have to be able to report the physical
[1:46:45]
requirements on a job description to the
[1:46:48]
workers comp company so they know what
[1:46:50]
that employee can and cannot do right
[1:46:52]
now our job descriptions do not have
[1:46:54]
physical requirements on them
[1:46:56]
we are
[1:46:58]
finalizing hopefully ratifying
[1:47:02]
ratification meeting next week with
[1:47:04]
afscme on some contract changes we also
[1:47:07]
have a contract opener next year with
[1:47:10]
Teamsters so that will be another big
[1:47:12]
project that we're working on
[1:47:14]
and
[1:47:16]
I think those are our main projects any
[1:47:19]
questions for us
[1:47:23]
I have a question that nobody else does
[1:47:26]
you're talking about on the safety
[1:47:28]
coordinator claims are down
[1:47:31]
is that you compared a whole year to how
[1:47:34]
much of this year just the first five
[1:47:35]
just today four months correct so if you
[1:47:38]
took the same four months last year to
[1:47:40]
this year what's that look like I don't
[1:47:43]
have that I can again are you I'm not
[1:47:44]
sure what our numbers were as far as
[1:47:46]
through see Apples to Apples not apples
[1:47:49]
to oranges
[1:47:52]
I also have a question on the safety
[1:47:54]
coordinator you'd mentioned that that
[1:47:56]
was already in that position has already
[1:47:59]
been in play
[1:48:01]
it was hired last August so okay so that
[1:48:04]
was part of last year's budget as well
[1:48:08]
it was used as cost savings from another
[1:48:11]
position so it wasn't budgeted ahead of
[1:48:13]
time okay yeah so the the 130 000 in
[1:48:16]
personnel and service for safety and
[1:48:18]
trainees that new new position right and
[1:48:21]
then in the Personnel Services for human
[1:48:24]
resources the the increases uh just
[1:48:28]
contract negotiations
[1:48:30]
uh
[1:48:31]
based on
[1:48:33]
281 000 this year versus 258 000 last
[1:48:36]
year right it's all Sellers and wages
[1:48:38]
associated with that new position our
[1:48:40]
base our materials and services are less
[1:48:42]
than twenty thousand dollars for all of
[1:48:45]
us so it's all in salaries and wages for
[1:48:48]
our department
[1:48:53]
you mentioned the Safety and Security uh
[1:48:56]
coordinator it was about 1 30 and I see
[1:48:59]
it's a new position to HR did that come
[1:49:02]
from another department or did that just
[1:49:05]
come from hr's budget I'm I mean we
[1:49:07]
didn't see it last year so I'm just a
[1:49:08]
little confused how it came this year
[1:49:09]
right and I'm not the numbers person so
[1:49:11]
I would have to probably defer to
[1:49:12]
Brandon on how the money was found
[1:49:14]
thanks Brandon so that position uh used
[1:49:18]
utilized vacancy savings out of one of
[1:49:20]
our utility funds there was a position
[1:49:21]
that was not filled this year by choice
[1:49:24]
of the department
[1:49:26]
um and so we we utilized those funds to
[1:49:28]
bring the position on board this current
[1:49:30]
fiscal year and then moving forward yes
[1:49:33]
would be part of the internal service
[1:49:35]
funds and and spread across the
[1:49:36]
organization
[1:49:39]
okay so if I understand it correctly we
[1:49:41]
took a position from waste water and
[1:49:43]
moved it over yep to put a point on it
[1:49:46]
where it came from we can do that huh
[1:49:48]
okay I just they took a position from
[1:49:51]
Wastewater and moved it yeah we didn't
[1:49:54]
move the position the the position is
[1:49:56]
still over in the Wastewater fund and
[1:49:57]
there was justification as far as the
[1:49:59]
work that's being done out of the the
[1:50:00]
utility treatment at the wastewater
[1:50:02]
treatment plant
[1:50:04]
um and across the the public works
[1:50:06]
department as a whole
[1:50:08]
um it was determined at that point that
[1:50:09]
the justification was there to house the
[1:50:12]
position there
[1:50:14]
long term like that's not a position
[1:50:16]
they're going to need to fill
[1:50:17]
the position is budgeted in this in the
[1:50:21]
24 budget the Wastewater one so the
[1:50:22]
position's not going away by any means
[1:50:25]
um but so we're so in this budget we're
[1:50:28]
keeping the waste water and we're adding
[1:50:32]
the the safety person
[1:50:35]
so our sewer bills are paying for the
[1:50:38]
safety person for this current fiscal
[1:50:41]
year yes
[1:50:43]
okay
[1:50:44]
I don't really love that just so we're
[1:50:46]
I'm gonna just be on record and say that
[1:50:48]
I don't I don't love that coming out of
[1:50:50]
that fund for that so
[1:50:52]
that makes two of us it looks confusing
[1:50:54]
to me because normally that the the
[1:50:57]
water utilities are dedicated that
[1:51:00]
that's correct the the position was
[1:51:02]
added it has been a considerable amount
[1:51:04]
of time this year at the Wastewater
[1:51:06]
Plant
[1:51:07]
um in in terms of trying to deal with
[1:51:09]
safety there uh in addition to other
[1:51:12]
Public Works operations so uh the
[1:51:16]
person's been out working with Cruz
[1:51:19]
um uh uh construction sites uh has been
[1:51:23]
working with Parks Crews and and
[1:51:25]
reviewing you know practices the tree
[1:51:28]
cutting groups
[1:51:30]
um has been Aquarius like an issue came
[1:51:33]
up
[1:51:34]
um
[1:51:35]
Parks Cruise in cleaning Parks
[1:51:37]
oftentimes come across needles they did
[1:51:40]
not have puncture proof gloves that's
[1:51:43]
PPE that we should be providing so that
[1:51:45]
came up in inspections and then our
[1:51:48]
safety coordinator works with Public
[1:51:50]
Works to acquire those gloves and make
[1:51:52]
sure our staff is appropriately
[1:51:55]
uh
[1:51:57]
clothed I guess would be the word in
[1:52:00]
terms of the PPE they need it was an
[1:52:03]
opportunity to use savings from a
[1:52:05]
position that was being left open
[1:52:06]
purposely for the year to assess kind of
[1:52:10]
need for that position at the plant and
[1:52:13]
start trying to address some of the
[1:52:16]
safety issues that we have had as an
[1:52:19]
organization and that that position is
[1:52:22]
working with other departments so moving
[1:52:24]
it into Human Resources allocating the
[1:52:26]
costs across the organization
[1:52:28]
it's included inspections of buildings
[1:52:30]
identifying where we don't have aeds
[1:52:33]
that we should
[1:52:35]
identifying where we have way out of
[1:52:38]
date medications in uh you know aspirin
[1:52:41]
and those kinds of things in first aid
[1:52:43]
kits that employees are using Band-Aids
[1:52:45]
that don't stick anymore in updating
[1:52:47]
those so which is as an organization
[1:52:50]
have not been paying attention to that
[1:52:53]
trying to pay attention to that so but
[1:52:55]
this kind this cleans it that up that my concern is with the the funds coming
[1:53:01]
out of a non- utility funds are are
[1:53:04]
special and uh legally so and rightfully
[1:53:07]
so so I just I just to clarify this
[1:53:12]
ends that and cleans it up correct
[1:53:14]
moving forward yes that makes me happy
[1:53:17]
how many details on what the OSHA
[1:53:19]
violation was and where that took place
[1:53:20]
I yes and I can um I'm sure when Jason's
[1:53:24]
up he can share it more details but I do
[1:53:26]
know that there was a gas line that was
[1:53:28]
struck with some heavy equipment
[1:53:34]
any other questions
[1:53:37]
okay thank you I'd like to hear the
[1:53:39]
answer though I will get that back okay
[1:53:41]
thank you
[1:53:43]
okay Brandon you're up
[1:53:46]
good afternoon everybody uh so I get the
[1:53:49]
pleasure of talking to you about the
[1:53:50]
finance department and I'm also going to
[1:53:52]
throw non-departmental in there uh
[1:53:54]
because I realized we haven't talked
[1:53:55]
about that yet which is in your budget
[1:53:57]
so
[1:53:59]
um the finance department consists of
[1:54:00]
two different areas first obviously
[1:54:03]
Finance uh and the finance office
[1:54:05]
overall covers a multitude of functions
[1:54:08]
Utility Billing audit functions uh the
[1:54:11]
budget that is before you uh building
[1:54:13]
collaboration with the city manager's
[1:54:15]
office
[1:54:16]
um accounts receivable accounts payable
[1:54:19]
uh and then
[1:54:21]
General Finance accounting functions
[1:54:25]
to accomplish all of those duties I've
[1:54:28]
got five FTE in the office including
[1:54:30]
myself we did do a little bit of a
[1:54:33]
position reorganization in this current
[1:54:35]
fiscal year
[1:54:37]
a vacancy opened up with our accounting
[1:54:40]
supervisor and instead of replacing that
[1:54:43]
position we instead repurpose that to
[1:54:46]
bring on a payroll specialist
[1:54:48]
um I think that was a good move for us
[1:54:51]
we have a lot of we had one individual
[1:54:54]
we had an accountant that was doing all
[1:54:56]
of the payroll work and that's not what
[1:54:58]
they were originally hired for this
[1:55:01]
person is well versed in state and
[1:55:04]
federal payroll laws has spent
[1:55:06]
considerable time with our new payroll
[1:55:08]
system that you've all heard about and
[1:55:11]
we think that moving forward this is
[1:55:13]
going to be what's the what's best for
[1:55:15]
the organization to ensure that we
[1:55:16]
comply with with all of the rules
[1:55:20]
um that did actually save us some money
[1:55:22]
overall as well so that adjustment saved
[1:55:25]
about 38 000 in salary and benefit costs
[1:55:28]
um through which we are replacing some
[1:55:29]
of that with the ADP software that has
[1:55:33]
landed in my budget but overall I'm
[1:55:34]
still uh ten thousand dollars less
[1:55:37]
between those two changes in my overall
[1:55:39]
budget
[1:55:42]
um the rest of my budget is primarily
[1:55:44]
Contract Services we have multi multiple
[1:55:47]
debt obligations as far as fees
[1:55:50]
associated with our debt and management
[1:55:52]
thereof and then certainly audit each
[1:55:55]
year is a considerable cost for us
[1:55:59]
um and then just kind of General banking
[1:56:01]
services
[1:56:02]
and Report filings that we have to make
[1:56:05]
as a city so all of those costs oh and
[1:56:09]
our overall Finance system uh
[1:56:11]
Springbrook is a considerable cost as
[1:56:13]
well so all of that is housed inside the
[1:56:15]
finance office in the materials and
[1:56:17]
service budget
[1:56:19]
the other function for finance is the
[1:56:21]
supervision of Municipal Court
[1:56:24]
um so as Finance director I oversee
[1:56:27]
three FTE over in court I do not oversee
[1:56:31]
the judge that is the the purview of the
[1:56:33]
city council and so my function is
[1:56:37]
really just supervising the day-to-day
[1:56:38]
operations in the court and obviously
[1:56:41]
the judge has has the purview to to
[1:56:45]
enforce as he sees fit
[1:56:48]
um there's not a lot of changes in the
[1:56:50]
court budget for the coming year
[1:56:51]
everything in there is really a required
[1:56:54]
expenditure we do sometimes save some
[1:56:56]
money throughout a year in the materials
[1:56:59]
and supplies or materials and services
[1:57:01]
budget because the primary expense there
[1:57:03]
is the cost associated with providing
[1:57:06]
Council legal counsel for folks uh in
[1:57:11]
front of in front of the court
[1:57:13]
otherwise after that it's paying you
[1:57:16]
know the state fees paying the county
[1:57:18]
for for their portion of of what we
[1:57:20]
collect so everything is is fairly
[1:57:23]
straightforward in in that budget
[1:57:25]
overall
[1:57:27]
any questions that I can answer about
[1:57:29]
finance and Municipal Court
[1:57:32]
I have a oh sorry I just wonder when the
[1:57:35]
payroll Specialists came on board
[1:57:37]
uh they start we had that position start
[1:57:40]
the beginning of April
[1:57:44]
thank you very recently didn't mean to
[1:57:46]
cut you off
[1:57:48]
um and and maybe this is not the right
[1:57:50]
time but but
[1:57:51]
um we have yet to talk about
[1:57:54]
um pers and normally I feel like every
[1:57:57]
year we we talk about hers and we have
[1:57:59]
not yet this year
[1:58:01]
are we on an off year for an increase no
[1:58:04]
we actually have an increase beginning
[1:58:06]
July 1 and there is uh in the budget
[1:58:10]
summary overview there's also a
[1:58:12]
projection of the likely increases for
[1:58:14]
July 1 25 and July 127.
[1:58:18]
uh and uh yeah okay I will note there
[1:58:23]
are no projected decreases
[1:58:25]
yeah okay so page 32 in your budget
[1:58:30]
document has a has a whole section
[1:58:31]
dedicated to discussing uh the purse
[1:58:35]
rate increases for the coming biennium
[1:58:38]
um and then as Nancy said dated the projection for
[1:58:42]
the following two bienniums
[1:58:44]
by Nia
[1:58:46]
okay thank you
[1:58:49]
can I ask you a question on that first
[1:58:51]
is this the right or is there a later
[1:58:53]
point where this is fine I'll go ahead
[1:58:55]
and ask
[1:58:56]
um
[1:58:57]
so I'm seeing in 2023
[1:59:01]
uh just I'll just look at general
[1:59:03]
service pers it says 25.16 percent
[1:59:09]
uh help me understand that number is
[1:59:11]
that what the employer is contributing
[1:59:14]
on behalf of the employee that is the
[1:59:16]
amount that the city is paying into the
[1:59:19]
overall pension fund on behalf of an
[1:59:22]
employee and that's referencing 25.16 of
[1:59:25]
the employees if there's gross earnings
[1:59:28]
yes so that's it on top of their gross
[1:59:30]
earnings correct yeah it's they have
[1:59:32]
they make they have their gross earnings
[1:59:34]
and then we pay an additional
[1:59:36]
25.16 into the pension fund which does
[1:59:39]
cover some of the unfunded liability
[1:59:42]
um and some of the you know trying to
[1:59:43]
catch the system up to the best of its
[1:59:45]
ability
[1:59:46]
um as we uh outlined in that second
[1:59:48]
paragraph on that page
[1:59:50]
um the unfunded liability for pers is
[1:59:53]
about 20 which means they if if
[1:59:55]
everything came to a head today they
[1:59:57]
couldn't make their ends meet
[2:00:00]
um and so certainly state and local
[2:00:02]
municipalities uh are on the hook for
[2:00:06]
that unfunded liability
[2:00:10]
all right that's what I was wondering
[2:00:11]
that's why I like my tier one retirement
[2:00:14]
tier one and tier two of course
[2:00:18]
and people wonder why I say peachy all
[2:00:20]
the time
[2:00:22]
any other questions
[2:00:25]
I'd like to ask about ADP sure how
[2:00:28]
that's going we you know with any
[2:00:31]
software transition I think that we've
[2:00:33]
had some stumbles
[2:00:35]
um we are a different organization than I
[2:00:40]
think ADP is used to working with
[2:00:41]
however ADP has worked with many uh
[2:00:45]
state and local agencies in the past
[2:00:47]
we are currently working through a few
[2:00:52]
more hurdles I would say that
[2:00:55]
we have discovered as we've kind of dug
[2:00:58]
our heels in or as we've made changes
[2:01:00]
then something else has to change in
[2:01:02]
order to accommodate our unique uh
[2:01:05]
paying our unique payroll but that is
[2:01:10]
part of why we also decided that
[2:01:12]
bringing on a payroll specialist would
[2:01:13]
better serve the city so that they could
[2:01:15]
tackle a lot of that on an everyday
[2:01:17]
basis
[2:01:19]
and we've been using them for how long
[2:01:20]
now uh do we officially launched with
[2:01:23]
our first payroll January 6th and we're
[2:01:27]
still running into issues that we didn't
[2:01:28]
realize we we went through three months
[2:01:33]
and two months of uh what I would call
[2:01:35]
decent payrolls where things were
[2:01:37]
working relatively well
[2:01:39]
um and then certainly we have recently
[2:01:41]
discovered some additional issues that
[2:01:43]
arose in March
[2:01:45]
um and so we are
[2:01:47]
currently fixing those
[2:01:49]
um some of it is you know as we go
[2:01:51]
through and add additional intricacies
[2:01:54]
for various departments to meet needs
[2:01:57]
that has created additional problems in
[2:01:59]
some cases and answered questions in
[2:02:01]
other places
[2:02:02]
um but it is it is still a system in
[2:02:04]
transition I would call it we're not
[2:02:05]
even six months into this and I would
[2:02:08]
argue that we're doing better than a lot
[2:02:10]
of other places
[2:02:11]
that maybe we've seen or having payroll
[2:02:14]
issues broadly
[2:02:17]
I'm not too concerned about other places
[2:02:19]
I just want to make sure our folks were
[2:02:21]
taken care of properly because they go
[2:02:23]
to work for us every single day and some
[2:02:26]
of them put their life on the line for
[2:02:27]
us every day right I learned in the Army
[2:02:31]
one thing you never messed with is the
[2:02:32]
Soldier's pay
[2:02:34]
it's just you know I want to make sure
[2:02:36]
it's done right we value the the
[2:02:38]
employees in this organization we are
[2:02:40]
doing our very very best to make sure
[2:02:43]
that that system gets built to in a
[2:02:45]
manner that will serve this organization
[2:02:47]
in the long run
[2:02:49]
um I'm confident that we will work out
[2:02:53]
any remaining issues and that things
[2:02:55]
will go well down the road but we are
[2:02:58]
still in an implementation phase are you
[2:03:00]
keeping track of this kind of stuff so
[2:03:02]
you can do an after Action Report
[2:03:03]
lessons learned that sort of thing yes
[2:03:05]
I'd like to sit in on something like
[2:03:08]
that when uh when that comes around okay
[2:03:14]
how it's going in a kind of deeper dive
[2:03:17]
into some of the issues we've run into
[2:03:19]
and some of the solutions that we've
[2:03:21]
implemented to address those like later
[2:03:24]
not right sure but yeah we will
[2:03:26]
certainly work to put something together
[2:03:28]
for you all
[2:03:29]
um that can provide some insight
[2:03:32]
I'd like to know the hurdles more
[2:03:33]
specific on what exactly hurdles are
[2:03:35]
facing and how they've affected snap
[2:03:37]
okay yeah if we could do that offline uh
[2:03:40]
after this meeting come together and sit
[2:03:44]
down and talk about that
[2:03:45]
because I know a lot of us hear things
[2:03:48]
and we'd like to eliminate to hear
[2:03:50]
things and get the get the facts
[2:03:53]
imagine that with in collaboration with
[2:03:56]
the city manager's office and the mayor
[2:03:57]
we'll we'll work on how best to to
[2:04:00]
present that to you all and to get
[2:04:02]
information out
[2:04:03]
thank you okay thank you any other
[2:04:06]
questions
[2:04:07]
okay thank you can I throw a
[2:04:09]
non-departmental in there real fast just
[2:04:11]
so you all have kind of that information
[2:04:13]
sure non-departmental uh covers
[2:04:16]
expenditures that really don't belong in
[2:04:18]
a specific Department uh in the city of
[2:04:20]
Lebanon you'll find that in two places
[2:04:22]
the general fund has a non-departmental
[2:04:24]
section uh primary budget for that area
[2:04:27]
includes uh the last remaining arpa
[2:04:30]
dollars for next year that could be
[2:04:34]
utilized for whatever within uh certain
[2:04:38]
restrictions whatever the council uh
[2:04:41]
deems necessary
[2:04:43]
um so we've budgeted 270 000 for the
[2:04:45]
following fiscal year for this coming
[2:04:47]
fiscal year for that purpose
[2:04:49]
um there is also a continuing uh
[2:04:52]
repayment to the Northwest urban renewal
[2:04:54]
District after the city exceeded its
[2:04:57]
maximum debt indebtedness requirements
[2:04:59]
uh and spent some money on on items that
[2:05:02]
maybe it shouldn't have out of the urd
[2:05:04]
in the past
[2:05:06]
um and so 225 is budgeted out of the
[2:05:09]
general fund to continue that process of
[2:05:11]
repaying that urd
[2:05:14]
the other highlight in that area is
[2:05:16]
insurance
[2:05:18]
we were told by our insurance carrier
[2:05:21]
this year to expect a 35 increase in our
[2:05:25]
property casualty premiums for the
[2:05:28]
coming fiscal year
[2:05:29]
certainly a jaw-dropping moment for
[2:05:32]
myself and for the department heads that
[2:05:35]
have insurance requirements in their
[2:05:36]
budgets
[2:05:38]
um
[2:05:39]
that is that it consists of two
[2:05:41]
different things the city went through
[2:05:43]
a process this last year in which a kind
[2:05:47]
of reevaluation was done by the
[2:05:49]
insurance company by our uh by CIS
[2:05:53]
going around reviewing our properties
[2:05:55]
deciding if if there needed to be
[2:05:57]
changes as far as the ultimate valuation
[2:05:59]
of those facilities
[2:06:01]
um ultimately that provided a
[2:06:03]
significant increase to our overall
[2:06:06]
premiums and then a 12 percent just
[2:06:09]
general rate increase across the board
[2:06:10]
for all organizations
[2:06:12]
is also built into that so certainly a
[2:06:16]
sticker shock item for us it did hurt
[2:06:18]
significantly and certainly something
[2:06:21]
for us to kind of review as we move
[2:06:22]
forward
[2:06:23]
but that 35 percent increase is budgeted
[2:06:26]
in the general fund for a part of our
[2:06:30]
overall insurance requirements
[2:06:33]
um
[2:06:34]
the other piece in which you will see
[2:06:36]
kind of non-departmental expenditures is
[2:06:39]
the motel tax fund
[2:06:41]
um of this this is the transit occupancy
[2:06:43]
tax also known as lodging tax it goes by
[2:06:46]
many names
[2:06:48]
um we have
[2:06:51]
just north of a hundred thousand dollars
[2:06:54]
budgeted and overall expenditures and
[2:06:56]
actually you can see it on page
[2:06:59]
something
[2:07:04]
um
[2:07:06]
squatter there it is 78.
[2:07:11]
um
[2:07:12]
we have some significantly almost four
[2:07:15]
hundred thousand dollars in budgeted
[2:07:16]
funds
[2:07:17]
um 228 000 of that is labeled as capital
[2:07:21]
outlay that's money that has been set
[2:07:23]
aside to enhance some of our Parks
[2:07:28]
facilities potentially that could draw
[2:07:31]
additional tourism to the to the city
[2:07:34]
and so that money has been set aside in
[2:07:36]
earmarked for that purpose the 169 000
[2:07:39]
in materials and services
[2:07:41]
provides there was a question earlier
[2:07:43]
about
[2:07:44]
um you know uh the blanking on the
[2:07:48]
program
[2:07:50]
thanks downtown building restoration
[2:07:52]
that money is budgeted here as well as
[2:07:55]
contributions to the chamber and the
[2:07:58]
Lebanon Downtown Association
[2:08:03]
that's what I have for non-departmental
[2:08:04]
nice and easy
[2:08:10]
anybody got any questions
[2:08:12]
okay
[2:08:14]
thanks let's move on to
[2:08:17]
Ron and Jason Public Works and
[2:08:20]
engineering
[2:08:22]
somehow they ended up him here on a tag
[2:08:25]
team thing they're basically two halves
[2:08:27]
of a whole is that what it is that's
[2:08:29]
what that's what I'm pretty sure that's
[2:08:31]
what it is I was thinking I was thinking
[2:08:32]
of it I was thinking of a movie title
[2:08:35]
but you know
[2:08:36]
don't say it I was gonna say Cheech and
[2:08:39]
Chong you know couldn't be
[2:08:42]
yeah well I'll get started with a few
[2:08:44]
that are we have one internal service
[2:08:46]
fund within Public Works Public Works is
[2:08:49]
responsible for
[2:08:51]
the maintenance and operation of our
[2:08:54]
Utility Systems our city buildings our
[2:08:56]
city-owned property
[2:08:59]
um our Recreation areas
[2:09:02]
and Public Works we have 32 positions in
[2:09:05]
total 31 of them are are filled and
[2:09:08]
we'll have one that remains vacant
[2:09:11]
I think that's the one we're discussing
[2:09:12]
from the Wastewater Plant
[2:09:15]
so starting on page 59 for custodial and
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building maintenance
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is our internal service fund
[2:09:23]
Nancy highlighted earlier that this is
[2:09:25]
an ad this year for a fleet mechanic
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that will help
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throughout the city
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it's really pretty stagnant we we have a
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little bit of a balance in there
[2:09:37]
contingency so to speak so we could
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replace things that fail which
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compressors on top of the Justice Center
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there's
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just four of them in each unit and we're
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already starting to drop off and so
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we're building up a little bit of a
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contingency in that fund to handle some
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of those things as they as they happen
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any questions about that one
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the next one that is a non-utility is
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Parks
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our Parks Department
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is responsible for a tremendous amount
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of acreage and activities within the
[2:10:16]
city
[2:10:17]
every Sports field
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if you know a kid playing on a sports
[2:10:23]
field we've had something to do with the
[2:10:24]
maintenance of that field whether it's
[2:10:26]
School District property or city of
[2:10:27]
Lebanon property
[2:10:30]
the parks fund you'll see has a infusion
[2:10:33]
of money for this budget Year and that
[2:10:36]
was from a grant we received for the
[2:10:38]
cheetah Lake Project you guys should
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remember that one
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other than that it's maintained really
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constant it's just
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we're kind of in a
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just get through it phase just the
[2:10:53]
maintenance and operation of the
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facilities
[2:10:56]
unfortunately to say we only have one playground structure in the city of
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Lebanon that's accessible
[2:11:03]
at all for anybody with Ada restrictions
[2:11:08]
and that's at Christopher Columbus Park
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that's something we hope to change
[2:11:14]
any questions on Parks
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okay
[2:11:19]
foreign so the reason we're doing this
[2:11:23]
probably together is because we're kind
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of tight at the hip on most everything
[2:11:26]
that happens when it relates to public
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work and Engineering
[2:11:30]
um so for the engineering department we
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have seven ftes including myself
[2:11:35]
um
[2:11:35]
we kind of Shuffle Up and Deal uh every
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so often and who's going to be doing
[2:11:39]
what I have one dedicated person that
[2:11:42]
does development but all told if you
[2:11:44]
split it out just about right we'd have
[2:11:46]
about four and a half FTE towards the
[2:11:49]
capital program and then probably two
[2:11:51]
and a half staff person per year to
[2:11:54]
handle a development workload right now
[2:11:57]
so that's kind of how we're we're broken
[2:11:59]
out and it doesn't mean that somebody
[2:12:02]
that's doing Capital won't be pulled
[2:12:04]
over to do a development project at some
[2:12:07]
point we do whatever is in front of us
[2:12:10]
and whatever needs to be done so they're
[2:12:12]
all the staff are really good about
[2:12:13]
doing that we're primarily funded out of
[2:12:17]
water Wastewater storm and streets 38
[2:12:20]
drain or 38 water five percent drainage
[2:12:24]
43 streets or 43 percent Wastewater and
[2:12:29]
four percent streets and in our
[2:12:31]
Development Fund generates about 10
[2:12:32]
percent that covers that cost as well
[2:12:34]
you ask how did I come up with the
[2:12:36]
numbers it kind of varies year to year
[2:12:38]
with we base it on uh how much work we
[2:12:42]
have in sewer this year versus how much
[2:12:43]
work we have in water so that number
[2:12:45]
shifts a little bit each year uh we try
[2:12:47]
and follow where the projects are
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primarily happening
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um
[2:12:52]
with that our operational costs this
[2:12:54]
year uh you'll notice some pretty big
[2:12:56]
operational costs
[2:12:58]
um those aren't necessarily associated
[2:13:01]
with our materials and services but and
[2:13:04]
the water fund our operational costs are
[2:13:07]
about 1.7 million uh 1.2 million of that
[2:13:10]
is attached to the water treatment plant
[2:13:12]
demolition project so that'll be a
[2:13:13]
contract project same thing in
[2:13:15]
Wastewater about 1.2 million in
[2:13:19]
operational costs and close to 700 000
[2:13:22]
that is Sewer Lateral program and also
[2:13:24]
your Wastewater Master Plan update so
[2:13:27]
those those are why those are so high
[2:13:30]
and then of course we have a little bit
[2:13:31]
of operational costs in streets and in
[2:13:33]
our development review
[2:13:35]
this year we're projecting it at to be
[2:13:37]
at about 160 000 in revenue and permit
[2:13:40]
fees and review fees so
[2:13:43]
uh I've got a pretty big list on page 11
[2:13:47]
um of the budget book which shows the
[2:13:49]
capital projects for this coming year
[2:13:52]
um
[2:13:54]
I'm I'm fairly confident that we're not
[2:13:56]
going to get to all those
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um we're going to do our best to get to
[2:14:00]
a lot of them uh over the last probably
[2:14:03]
three to five years things have really
[2:14:05]
slowed down in terms of
[2:14:08]
how we work with outside agencies it
[2:14:11]
seems like things have slowed uh which
[2:14:14]
increases project time
[2:14:16]
to get things done so this list here uh
[2:14:20]
you know we'll get a good chunk of it
[2:14:21]
done
[2:14:22]
but
[2:14:23]
um I can pretty much assure you that not
[2:14:25]
all of that's going to get done at one
[2:14:28]
time and a lot of it depends on where
[2:14:29]
we're working to and and how long
[2:14:32]
contracts go and and how that all works
[2:14:34]
out so that's kind of Engineering in a
[2:14:36]
nutshell I can answer any questions we
[2:14:39]
use sdcs a lot and utility funds so I'm
[2:14:42]
more than happy to answer any questions
[2:14:45]
run
[2:14:47]
um the increase in the lateral program
[2:14:50]
which I'm glad to see
[2:14:52]
is that enough or will we still run out
[2:14:54]
do you think so what's the projection
[2:14:56]
part of the budget presentation was done
[2:14:59]
was was out to print that's actually
[2:15:01]
changed yet again
[2:15:03]
um there's about 330 000 budgeted to
[2:15:07]
laterals this year wow at least that
[2:15:09]
enough when we started the beginning of
[2:15:11]
that program wasn't it like 50 or I
[2:15:13]
can't remember what um it's right around
[2:15:15]
90. was it so to give you a snapshot of
[2:15:18]
what that looks like probably three to
[2:15:20]
four years ago we were 6 000 on average
[2:15:22]
uh per lateral yeah right now I looked
[2:15:25]
our lowest lateral last year was 12 000.
[2:15:28]
wow okay so that in and of itself uh has
[2:15:33]
been a big hit we had some that were 25
[2:15:35]
000.
[2:15:36]
um so you know if you're on a truck
[2:15:38]
route and you're really deep it makes
[2:15:40]
those prices go up but uh we're not
[2:15:43]
doing any more this year we're going out
[2:15:46]
and we're getting the the quotes for
[2:15:48]
them
[2:15:49]
um so that they'll be ready to go on
[2:15:51]
July 1 right now we're sitting at about
[2:15:53]
50 000 starting July one so we'll see
[2:15:56]
how it goes but there comes a point
[2:15:58]
where we can't put all of our money into
[2:16:01]
laterals and not put money into our our
[2:16:04]
sewer Maids as well so there's there's
[2:16:07]
that balance and then next year that 50
[2:16:10]
000 maybe there's not any more I doubt
[2:16:12]
it but it's hard to predict it's a great
[2:16:14]
program are we are we the only ones
[2:16:17]
doing it are there other municipalities
[2:16:19]
I think there's other municipalities
[2:16:20]
that do it yeah I couldn't remember
[2:16:22]
uh it's for a homeowner um it's a good
[2:16:25]
thing but it's also a good thing for us
[2:16:26]
in terms of ridding the system of uh
[2:16:29]
inflow and infiltration uh which just
[2:16:31]
means Jason has to treat it when when
[2:16:33]
they come out there because our old
[2:16:35]
laterals tend to be very leaky and so
[2:16:38]
you get a lot of groundwater into them
[2:16:40]
yeah we are doing some
[2:16:43]
um for the remainder of this fiscal year
[2:16:46]
in-house as we can because it is such a
[2:16:49]
big deal for us to plug some of these
[2:16:51]
leaks
[2:16:55]
on the the wish list there the uh
[2:16:59]
engineering projects you said you might
[2:17:02]
not get to all those this year and I
[2:17:04]
understand that will that money just
[2:17:06]
carry because it's a budgeted they're
[2:17:07]
all budgeted for this fiscal year it'll
[2:17:09]
just carry over into the next year what
[2:17:11]
isn't used that's the the wonderful
[2:17:13]
thing about the utilities you know it's
[2:17:16]
not so wonderful that you can't get
[2:17:17]
everything done but the great news is it
[2:17:19]
doesn't get spent it just carries
[2:17:20]
forward so and we find out with a lot of
[2:17:22]
our projects we'll budget for them and
[2:17:24]
then you know that might not happen this
[2:17:26]
year but you've still got that money and
[2:17:28]
you do it next year so yeah
[2:17:31]
launching at the airport installed so
[2:17:32]
light in I'll be happy yeah yeah amen
[2:17:35]
yes yes I would agree yes okay any
[2:17:40]
questions for this gentlemen
[2:17:42]
I actually have one more right sure we
[2:17:45]
spent some time talking about the safety officer safety course safety
[2:17:49]
coordinator uh sounds like you two have
[2:17:52]
had uh direct interaction or maybe seen
[2:17:55]
results from that do you feel like
[2:17:57]
that's a
[2:17:59]
you think it's enough bang for the buck
[2:18:02]
to justify that position for as far as
[2:18:04]
engineering and Public Works are
[2:18:05]
concerned
[2:18:07]
uh not had much interaction with with
[2:18:10]
that position uh I think Jason's
[2:18:12]
probably had the most most interaction
[2:18:14]
with that position with the plants uh
[2:18:16]
but we've had I've had very long
[2:18:17]
interaction
[2:18:18]
with that position yeah so the OSHA
[2:18:21]
violation was a gas line that we hit uh
[2:18:24]
that was that was really valuable having
[2:18:26]
someone else take care of that record
[2:18:27]
keeping for us and kind of break that root cause stuff
[2:18:32]
down normally it would be something I
[2:18:33]
would do
[2:18:35]
um
[2:18:36]
the involvement at the wastewater
[2:18:37]
treatment plant you know we took that
[2:18:38]
over we had really no idea what we were
[2:18:40]
getting into we
[2:18:42]
nobody on our staff had ever ran a
[2:18:44]
wastewater treatment plant before so it
[2:18:46]
was a crash course in learning
[2:18:48]
and so the safety concerns out there
[2:18:51]
I mean we were just
[2:18:53]
using best management practices so
[2:18:56]
it's nice to have some backup as far as
[2:18:59]
that's concerned I've
[2:19:01]
what the results are I have no idea
[2:19:04]
okay that's Nancy's job yeah I'm I'm
[2:19:06]
just curious like long term if if this
[2:19:09]
is one of those things where once
[2:19:10]
everyone's properly trained and caught
[2:19:12]
up on this if it'd be something we could
[2:19:14]
manage internally again
[2:19:16]
like this is almost an audit being done
[2:19:19]
I hate to add positions when you look at
[2:19:22]
like
[2:19:23]
the purse cost being 32 percent in in a
[2:19:26]
few years from now and the general tone
[2:19:29]
of the budget is
[2:19:32]
I wouldn't say Doom and Gloom but it's
[2:19:34]
um it's not all roses so to add to add a
[2:19:38]
position now that may be a position we
[2:19:40]
have to cut later and I I just hate to
[2:19:42]
do that so I was just trying to get see
[2:19:43]
how much benefit you guys are seeing
[2:19:45]
from that that position one one thing
[2:19:47]
that I would note is all of our Public
[2:19:49]
Works contracts require the contractor
[2:19:51]
to have a safety program
[2:19:53]
so it would not be the responsibility of
[2:19:56]
the city of Lebanon to go in and tell
[2:19:57]
contractor X how to implement their safety program uh they're they're
[2:20:02]
all required to do that obviously if
[2:20:05]
there's something that's grossly
[2:20:07]
negligent uh our inspectors will be on
[2:20:10]
top of that but that's not our role
[2:20:13]
out there in the field especially on
[2:20:15]
contract stuff thank you
[2:20:17]
I have a question
[2:20:19]
um in Nancy's budget message she talks
[2:20:21]
about and you guys have talked about it
[2:20:23]
before the pee fast I don't know if I'm
[2:20:26]
saying that correctly
[2:20:27]
um anyway so I just want to make sure
[2:20:30]
you know if this is likely
[2:20:33]
these changes are likely either at the
[2:20:35]
federal or state or some level that's
[2:20:37]
going to tell us what to do are we doing
[2:20:38]
anything is there well wait is there
[2:20:40]
anything we can do to prepare ourselves
[2:20:42]
and be ready for something like that
[2:20:45]
um I'm just looking ahead and I assume
[2:20:48]
someday someone's going to tell us we
[2:20:50]
have to to track this stuff or to take
[2:20:52]
it out or whatever so yeah we're doing
[2:20:54]
that now we're uh we started sampling
[2:20:56]
two months ago before that we're we're
[2:20:58]
not we haven't been directed to but the
[2:21:01]
last thing I want to do is come before
[2:21:02]
you guys and say hey we need 350 million
[2:21:06]
dollars right now today this is why I'm
[2:21:07]
asking the question yeah so we're trying
[2:21:10]
to get an idea of what our system has
[2:21:12]
okay uh what our potential risk would be
[2:21:14]
so that maybe we can plan responsibly
[2:21:17]
to correct that what the limits are what level of removal will have to have
[2:21:23]
if we'll have to have any level of
[2:21:24]
removal that's just going to be
[2:21:27]
come out of the regulations from Oregon Health
[2:21:31]
Authority well I'm glad to hear at least
[2:21:32]
you know you've been tracking it and
[2:21:34]
then at least we know when it comes down
[2:21:36]
we'll know what to anticipate so yeah
[2:21:39]
and we'll we'll keep you guys updated
[2:21:40]
when we get results for that as we get
[2:21:42]
results for those tests we'll have the
[2:21:45]
same battle with the lead and copper
[2:21:47]
rule that's coming out
[2:21:48]
that this throughout the city there's
[2:21:50]
really no rule yet there's nothing to
[2:21:52]
find there's not a course of action
[2:21:55]
for the new regulations but there will
[2:21:57]
be so we're trying to ready ourselves
[2:21:59]
the best that we can for that
[2:22:02]
thank you for forward thinking on that I
[2:22:04]
appreciate it yeah you're welcome yeah
[2:22:07]
any other questions
[2:22:10]
okay gentlemen thank you very much thank
[2:22:12]
you thank you
[2:22:14]
okay we've got an addition to this
[2:22:19]
uh did you guys want to talk at the same
[2:22:21]
time
[2:22:22]
okay so you you have several public
[2:22:25]
hearings that you need to hold the first
[2:22:28]
one scheduled is on state revenue
[2:22:30]
sharing and basically you're going to
[2:22:32]
open the public hearing see if anyone
[2:22:33]
wants to speak on stage did you want me
[2:22:36]
to do this right after these and then right after state revenue and
[2:22:39]
my assumption is no one wishes to speak
[2:22:42]
on state revenue sharing because nobody
[2:22:44]
ever does
[2:22:45]
um but then uh move to the Lebanon
[2:22:47]
budget you want to do these after the
[2:22:49]
and and that would be the public hearing
[2:22:51]
for the budget
[2:22:52]
you would call on okay people who wish
[2:22:55]
to speak for the public hearing on the
[2:22:57]
budget
[2:22:58]
does that make sense probably not but
[2:23:01]
we'll figure it out okay they would
[2:23:03]
speak on on 7B
[2:23:06]
after you open it okay yeah they'll talk
[2:23:09]
on 7B okay
[2:23:11]
all right well hang tight we'll get
[2:23:13]
right to you
[2:23:14]
okay public hearing
[2:23:17]
um I'm going to open the public hearing
[2:23:19]
on state shared revenues
[2:23:23]
at this time at 2 23 P.M
[2:23:31]
so you want to give this sure sorry so
[2:23:36]
state revenue sharing uh those are items
[2:23:39]
they are primarily they're all contained
[2:23:41]
in our general fund
[2:23:44]
um we per we get uh one line is just
[2:23:47]
considered state revenue sharing it's
[2:23:49]
just kind of a general pot that the
[2:23:50]
state distributes to all municipalities
[2:23:53]
most of the most of the revenues
[2:23:56]
distributed are all based on per capita
[2:23:58]
figures so population counts
[2:24:01]
um as as delivered by Portland State
[2:24:04]
University and their their population
[2:24:07]
Research Center I think it is or
[2:24:09]
something like that
[2:24:11]
um the other items that we receive in
[2:24:14]
state revenue sharing consist of
[2:24:18]
I'm gonna forget all of them uh we get a
[2:24:22]
portion of marijuana taxes that is
[2:24:24]
significantly lower than it has been in
[2:24:26]
the past uh due to the passage of
[2:24:28]
measure measure 110 uh we also receive
[2:24:31]
state revenue sharing from what they
[2:24:33]
what has generally been called in the
[2:24:35]
past sin taxes so cigarette taxes uh
[2:24:39]
liquor taxes uh am I missing one that's
[2:24:43]
it that's it
[2:24:45]
um the quite honestly the uh you can
[2:24:48]
find all of these on page 108
[2:24:52]
of your budget document
[2:24:55]
um
[2:24:55]
but primarily we've seen some small
[2:24:58]
increase and uh based on what the state
[2:25:01]
revenue forecasts are telling us to
[2:25:03]
expect the one that has gone down over
[2:25:05]
the years is the state cigarette revenue
[2:25:08]
and you can see that in the
[2:25:10]
corresponding line as cigarettes are just less popular
[2:25:16]
these days so but otherwise for the most
[2:25:19]
part everything else is up those
[2:25:20]
revenues we allocate just for the
[2:25:22]
general purpose of the organization we
[2:25:25]
spend them in the general fund
[2:25:27]
to offset departments that don't have
[2:25:31]
dedicated revenues
[2:25:35]
any questions
[2:25:40]
okay
[2:25:43]
will the City attorney please read the
[2:25:45]
title of the resolution
[2:25:48]
that's what you just handed General
[2:25:51]
motions on the bottom did General motion
[2:25:53]
well you want a general motion I can
[2:25:55]
make a motion yeah I move the uh to
[2:25:58]
recommend the city of Lebanon Council
[2:26:00]
adopt state revenue sharing monies as
[2:26:02]
non-dedicated Revenue in the general
[2:26:03]
fund
[2:26:04]
second
[2:26:05]
right been moved and seconded all those
[2:26:08]
in favor
[2:26:09]
aye aye opposed
[2:26:12]
you can give them that back I don't need
[2:26:14]
that just just confuse me
[2:26:19]
infused tray over there he was getting
[2:26:21]
ready what what am I reading
[2:26:23]
I'll try not to
[2:26:25]
no one wants lawyer awake
[2:26:29]
okay I will close the public hearing on
[2:26:32]
state shared revenues
[2:26:35]
I can't use that that's two of them I
[2:26:39]
know all right do you want me to use it
[2:26:41]
for you yeah which please thank you only
[2:26:44]
a fireman
[2:26:46]
okay FY 20 23 24 proposed city of
[2:26:50]
Lebanon budget
[2:26:53]
and I will open that hearing now
[2:26:59]
yes now we have some public testimony
[2:27:04]
Genie and Cody at last you get to speak
[2:27:08]
thank you for your patience thank you for your patience and uh
[2:27:13]
our weird humor
[2:27:17]
go ahead and pull those things in close
[2:27:19]
to you
[2:27:20]
because I'm not short I gotta talk
[2:27:22]
louder I was told that before I'm so
[2:27:25]
we're here on behalf of the Lebanon
[2:27:27]
Downtown Association and your continued
[2:27:29]
support for our Main Street manager our
[2:27:31]
Main Street manager is instrumental in
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keeping us connected with Oregon Main
[2:27:35]
Street their resources their grant
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funding and having the time and ability
[2:27:40]
to help our Merchants with grant funding
[2:27:42]
last year we were able to write a grant
[2:27:44]
for 200 000 and help two of our downtown
[2:27:47]
businesses with Renovations of the
[2:27:49]
second floor without our Main Street
[2:27:52]
manager that time that it takes to write
[2:27:54]
those grants is going to be almost
[2:27:56]
impossible for a very active board
[2:27:58]
everybody's doing as much as they can to
[2:28:01]
bring events downtown
[2:28:03]
to bring activities for Main Street but
[2:28:06]
really the overall operations of the
[2:28:08]
Downtown Association really has to come
[2:28:10]
from our Main Street manager
[2:28:12]
in your packet I did pass out kind of I
[2:28:15]
was really ready to present at City
[2:28:17]
Council in May and I got all messed up
[2:28:19]
so this is kind of a little bit of that
[2:28:21]
what we do and who we are through the
[2:28:24]
last 30 days of all of our Facebook
[2:28:26]
traffic all of the events Cinco de Mayo
[2:28:28]
we had 30 businesses engage with us for
[2:28:32]
Cinco de Mayo our first Friday
[2:28:34]
and so we've increased our following on
[2:28:37]
Facebook we've increased our Instagram
[2:28:38]
following
[2:28:40]
um and these are not just individuals in
[2:28:42]
Lebanon they're individuals from Eugene
[2:28:44]
to Salem and so we'll present that data
[2:28:46]
as well
[2:28:49]
um kind of we worked really hard last
[2:28:51]
month to get our finances in order to
[2:28:53]
get from our former Treasurer to our new
[2:28:56]
Treasurer Cody and kind of looked at our
[2:28:58]
finances and you can as you can see in
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your packet our funding sources pretty
[2:29:02]
much the city and that is for our Main
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Street manager we do have some donations
[2:29:07]
we do have some sponsorships are specific for the events
[2:29:12]
that we have so an individual
[2:29:13]
organization will sponsor a Bruisin
[2:29:16]
bands in the park for one weekend so we
[2:29:18]
do have that
[2:29:19]
um as well and our expenses of course
[2:29:22]
our our Main Street manager that puts in
[2:29:24]
so much work I'm connecting our downtown
[2:29:27]
businesses with grant funding
[2:29:29]
opportunities resources
[2:29:33]
um and yeah operations operations is
[2:29:35]
really just our Printing and our
[2:29:37]
advertising our online expenses is our
[2:29:40]
um give our donation online donation
[2:29:43]
program that we use and our Google Drive
[2:29:45]
that normal stuff in our website design
[2:29:47]
so there's not a lot of expenses other
[2:29:49]
than having that Main Street manager
[2:29:51]
they're available for us to keep our
[2:29:53]
community connected and really improve
[2:29:55]
downtown
[2:29:58]
so also in your packet I wrote kind of
[2:30:00]
our accomplishments for this last for
[2:30:02]
the 2022 we are organized by four
[2:30:06]
committees operations promotions design
[2:30:09]
and economic vitality and kind of in
[2:30:11]
that you can see every all the work that
[2:30:13]
each of our committees has has done in
[2:30:16]
the last
[2:30:17]
um 12 months
[2:30:19]
we do have a community cleanup day
[2:30:21]
coming up and we have other programs
[2:30:23]
that we're looking at right now to add
[2:30:25]
to that movies in the park
[2:30:27]
um those kind of things hopefully a
[2:30:28]
Saturday market combining with the one
[2:30:30]
that's already here in town but really
[2:30:32]
that again that overall organization of
[2:30:35]
what we can do really is going to come
[2:30:37]
from our Main Street manager position
[2:30:41]
I'll turn it over to Cody
[2:30:44]
so just wanted to talk a little bit
[2:30:45]
about the restoration reimbursement and
[2:30:48]
this year we had reimbursed 127
[2:30:52]
756 32 cents from the states to uh
[2:30:56]
restoring buildings downtown
[2:30:59]
um we've we have seen a vast Improvement
[2:31:01]
and just a facelift
[2:31:03]
we also have been if you look at numbers
[2:31:07]
from last year we've got a significant
[2:31:08]
increase this year so far in Quarter Two
[2:31:11]
from donations and sponsorships
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in fact our entire last year we were
[2:31:20]
about 60 percent of what we received in
[2:31:22]
donations last year already to date here
[2:31:25]
in the first five months Gina talked
[2:31:28]
about the movies in the park that's a new Endeavor we've ordered our
[2:31:31]
screen and facilities for that we
[2:31:35]
already have three of the Six movie
[2:31:38]
series for the summer sponsored by
[2:31:39]
different businesses we're working on
[2:31:42]
the national guard coming out providing
[2:31:46]
obstacle courses pull-up competitions
[2:31:48]
food carts just adding to the
[2:31:51]
festivities and that's going to be held
[2:31:53]
here at Ralston Park
[2:31:56]
um or sorry uh Academy Square now we're
[2:31:58]
kind of transitioning a lot of the stuff
[2:31:59]
over there
[2:32:01]
um music music in the concerts in the
[2:32:04]
park series and bands and Brews are
[2:32:06]
still ongoing
[2:32:07]
um and becoming you know better than
[2:32:08]
ever as we are engaging more with the
[2:32:11]
communities
[2:32:13]
um one of the big things with economic
[2:32:14]
Vitality tonight we have our first
[2:32:17]
meeting with our block captains a lot of
[2:32:19]
these are as we Rebrand and reorganize
[2:32:22]
we're throwing some new new Partnerships
[2:32:24]
in there so we do have Merchants
[2:32:27]
participating in our black Captain
[2:32:28]
program and that is that there's a block
[2:32:30]
Captain for each block downtown to be
[2:32:32]
able to be a transmitter and receiver of
[2:32:34]
information that's pertinent to business
[2:32:36]
owners here
[2:32:38]
um one of the oh as everyone knows one
[2:32:40]
of the ongoing debates downtown is you
[2:32:44]
know are we are we four are we opposed
[2:32:46]
to homeless sleeping areas downtown
[2:32:49]
our job as block captains are to be the
[2:32:52]
voice of our merchants and community
[2:32:54]
members so one thing that we are doing
[2:32:57]
is going out and interviewing issues
[2:32:59]
like this interviewing each and every
[2:33:01]
business owner and representative of
[2:33:03]
those businesses to see what it was your
[2:33:05]
take on these certain circumstances and
[2:33:08]
how do we represent you better so you'll
[2:33:11]
see me probably speaking at our next
[2:33:13]
meeting on things like that but it's just
[2:33:17]
important for us to be hearing the
[2:33:19]
voices of merchants making sure that
[2:33:21]
downtown is being properly represented
[2:33:26]
um
[2:33:27]
pretty much all I got for you today
[2:33:31]
any questions
[2:33:34]
so I understand you guys are asking for
[2:33:37]
the manager
[2:33:39]
to be included in the budget correct and what's the number you're
[2:33:44]
talking
[2:33:45]
thirty thousand that was thirty thousand
[2:33:47]
last year we'd like to continue that in
[2:33:49]
the budget
[2:33:51]
we've worked with the Secretary of State
[2:33:53]
we're compliant we've done our 990 they
[2:33:56]
let me go back three years so we did 20
[2:33:58]
21 and 22 waiting for any more paperwork
[2:34:02]
beyond that but right now we're we're in
[2:34:04]
good standing
[2:34:06]
Secretary of State as well yeah you're
[2:34:08]
in good standing with Secretary of State
[2:34:10]
correct
[2:34:11]
IRS yes yeah
[2:34:14]
did they give you a conditional approval
[2:34:17]
not yet but we have our paperwork in so
[2:34:20]
the last three years not a 501c3
[2:34:22]
currently
[2:34:35]
right we've we've done a lot of work in
[2:34:37]
the last six months to find to get out
[2:34:40]
of that hole financially
[2:34:42]
um and figure out where all of that
[2:34:44]
we've all dropped the ball on
[2:34:46]
um we've we're working really hard on
[2:34:47]
that so right now we we submitted
[2:34:49]
paperwork to the IRS for the last three
[2:34:52]
years we're waiting for them to come
[2:34:54]
back and tell us
[2:34:55]
if we need to do more and that was from
[2:34:58]
the advice of Oregon Main Street we we
[2:35:00]
called them we had a conference with
[2:35:02]
Oregon Main Street how do we clean this
[2:35:04]
up right and that's and it's good and I
[2:35:06]
think having a vibrant Downtown
[2:35:09]
Association is good but being good
[2:35:11]
stewards of the money that we are
[2:35:13]
handing out is important also
[2:35:16]
right now you're not a 501c3 you're
[2:35:19]
waiting for approval but you are you did
[2:35:22]
get your CT 12 done and into the state
[2:35:24]
and I see the secretary of state is uh
[2:35:29]
recognizing you correct as partners for
[2:35:31]
Progress not LDA right we've always been
[2:35:35]
partners for Progress that's the way it
[2:35:37]
started LDA yeah we operate under LDA
[2:35:40]
yeah but yeah our secretary of state
[2:35:42]
registry is partners for progress
[2:35:47]
I'm not comfortable
[2:35:49]
providing money when we've had this much
[2:35:53]
issues in money management and Reporting
[2:35:57]
I think that um
[2:36:00]
do we have a contract with them
[2:36:07]
on track with them
[2:36:08]
for yet we do have one with them for for
[2:36:11]
the current fiscal year we would be
[2:36:13]
negotiating a new contract with them for
[2:36:15]
fiscal 24.
[2:36:17]
and previously did we just provide them
[2:36:20]
the funds we did yeah I mean a lump sum
[2:36:24]
kind of thing yes
[2:36:26]
and did we ever get an accounting on how
[2:36:29]
that money was spent
[2:36:30]
no other than what you have in front of
[2:36:33]
you I haven't seen balance sheets or
[2:36:36]
income statements we don't have any of
[2:36:37]
that we also don't ask that of the of
[2:36:39]
the chamber too
[2:36:41]
no but my understanding was the
[2:36:44]
agreement was that they would provide
[2:36:45]
that before
[2:36:47]
that has been in the agreement yes and
[2:36:50]
so it's not asking for something new
[2:36:52]
it's something that was agreed to
[2:36:57]
steak I wasn't aware of that so yeah
[2:37:01]
before we before we approve it I would
[2:37:03]
recommend that we get an agreement
[2:37:06]
re-upped
[2:37:07]
with
[2:37:09]
some Matrix performance matrixes or
[2:37:11]
reporting matrixes
[2:37:14]
and we pay it out
[2:37:16]
like on a quarterly basis kind of thing
[2:37:19]
so it will help us and we'll help you
[2:37:22]
guys maintain accountability when you
[2:37:24]
got to do it every quarter to get the
[2:37:26]
money
[2:37:31]
I was brought on here as a Treasurer in February in the end of February and
[2:37:37]
um we did find some you know some things
[2:37:39]
that needed to be addressed obviously
[2:37:40]
some of these things that we're talking
[2:37:42]
about now came to light and
[2:37:45]
um been spending some time trying to
[2:37:46]
make sure that you know at least from then through now are reporting and
[2:37:52]
financially has been kept update I do
[2:37:54]
have quite a few years of back dating to
[2:37:56]
go through
[2:37:58]
um so that's that is something I'm
[2:38:00]
working working in the direction I feel
[2:38:02]
myself I know how easy it is to
[2:38:05]
miss things uh and things can fall
[2:38:08]
through the crack yeah and things get
[2:38:10]
very confusing when you're trying to
[2:38:12]
balance Federal versus State and CT 12
[2:38:16]
990 easy or big one or whatever
[2:38:20]
but it it's something that
[2:38:23]
I I believe needs to get your you need
[2:38:26]
to get your hands around so that the
[2:38:27]
community can believe in it too yeah
[2:38:29]
absolutely
[2:38:31]
and I would appreciate and enjoy working
[2:38:33]
actually with the city on a quarterly
[2:38:34]
basis because it's you know frankly this
[2:38:37]
is my first Treasury and first
[2:38:39]
non-profit board spot here so
[2:38:43]
um more experienced better for the
[2:38:46]
organization
[2:38:47]
well I'm just one person but my thought
[2:38:49]
is you need to get that agreement in
[2:38:51]
place before monies are agreed to we can
[2:38:54]
get that done before the June council
[2:38:56]
meeting I think
[2:38:59]
directing staff to work with LDA to
[2:39:02]
accomplish that so we're not not getting
[2:39:05]
involved in it until it comes to us for
[2:39:07]
approval just does staff who does Nancy
[2:39:11]
feel like she has enough information to
[2:39:13]
follow with this if this is something
[2:39:16]
there's a consensus of counsel on
[2:39:19]
so I have the information I need I think
[2:39:22]
I would I would like to have just a
[2:39:24]
motion
[2:39:25]
that would give me uh the timeline if
[2:39:28]
you wanted to see the contract on your
[2:39:31]
agenda in June
[2:39:34]
um
[2:39:35]
doing public hearings first we would do
[2:39:38]
the budget adoption and the contract
[2:39:39]
would come later but having it in the
[2:39:41]
packet uh if I had a motion on it that
[2:39:44]
would give
[2:39:45]
um us LDA and staff a hard deadline to
[2:39:48]
get an agreement put in place and ready
[2:39:50]
to go into packet so if you wish to make
[2:39:53]
a motion I would once we close the
[2:39:55]
public hearing correct yeah thank you so
[2:39:59]
that's where I am on it just okay so
[2:40:01]
it's it's a doable thing and we would do
[2:40:04]
the motion when after it closes after
[2:40:06]
you close a public hearing and you've
[2:40:07]
got you've got two motions in the packet
[2:40:09]
here so and then we'll do a third one
[2:40:11]
that would be fine okay good anybody
[2:40:15]
have any anybody else have any questions
[2:40:18]
well I'm not as familiar with KJ with
[2:40:20]
doddington the eyes and the crossing of
[2:40:22]
the teaser accountant on here but I want
[2:40:23]
you know I fully support that position
[2:40:25]
and what it can do for downtown and I
[2:40:27]
think it's imperative that we have
[2:40:28]
somebody paying attention to that and I
[2:40:30]
appreciate that you are yeah
[2:40:34]
question for Nancy yes that position is
[2:40:37]
funded by the hotel tax previously is
[2:40:40]
that where that money was coming out of
[2:40:42]
that is correct and that's where it is
[2:40:44]
in the budget that's proposed in front
[2:40:45]
of you the thirty thousand dollars is in
[2:40:47]
the motel tax fund
[2:40:50]
and if it's okay that's previously that
[2:40:54]
thirty thousand dollars came out of the
[2:40:55]
motel tax fund that's correct but that
[2:40:56]
thirty thousand dollars isn't in this
[2:40:58]
next year's budget for that position it
[2:41:00]
is in there uh so a couple things to
[2:41:05]
remember one is you can appropriate it
[2:41:07]
and not spend it yeah but if you don't
[2:41:09]
appropriate it you definitely can't
[2:41:10]
spend it right so it's oftentimes better
[2:41:13]
to appropriate and even if we couldn't
[2:41:15]
get to agreement or the council said we
[2:41:18]
don't want to turn over any money until
[2:41:20]
December you know let's see what happens
[2:41:22]
we would not spend the money based on
[2:41:25]
that direction but if we don't have the
[2:41:27]
appropriation we can't create it after
[2:41:29]
the budget is adopted but it is
[2:41:31]
appropriated now it is it is in the
[2:41:34]
budget and assuming that it stays in the
[2:41:37]
budget what the council would take up at
[2:41:39]
the June meeting in your public hearing
[2:41:40]
and adoption would include that thirty
[2:41:43]
thousand dollars and again at that point
[2:41:45]
you could take it the council could take
[2:41:47]
it out of the budget at the council
[2:41:49]
table even if the budget committee
[2:41:51]
leaves it in and moves It Forward the
[2:41:53]
council can take it out
[2:41:57]
all right this whole time I thought they
[2:41:58]
were asking because we had cut it out of
[2:42:00]
the budget that's why I was a little
[2:42:01]
confused nope okay no it's in there the
[2:42:04]
uh
[2:42:05]
if if anybody's wondering why this is
[2:42:07]
taking so long the bottom line is uh
[2:42:11]
it's not our money
[2:42:13]
it's everybody else's money
[2:42:15]
so we got to be responsible and being
[2:42:17]
good stewards of this money okay that
[2:42:19]
goes for all entities that receive funds
[2:42:23]
so
[2:42:24]
um I'm for a motion that would
[2:42:27]
to hold them to benchmarks and do it
[2:42:30]
quarterly
[2:42:31]
as long as they obtain the benchmarks I
[2:42:33]
believe in the program I think it's a
[2:42:35]
good program but it needs to be run
[2:42:36]
above board
[2:42:37]
and I'm not not going to cast aspersions
[2:42:40]
on past people that were in the Downtown
[2:42:42]
Association at all because that's not my
[2:42:45]
job but it is my job to make sure that
[2:42:48]
the money's being taken care of it's
[2:42:50]
being spent correctly and it's it's
[2:42:53]
we're able to have a report on it but
[2:42:55]
where it's going
[2:42:57]
um you just seen a bunch of directors
[2:42:59]
that uh work very hard come up here and
[2:43:03]
sit in that chair right there and get
[2:43:05]
ask a lot of questions
[2:43:07]
so
[2:43:08]
um I know it's all volunteer most of the
[2:43:11]
part for Downtown Association and that
[2:43:14]
and the City of Lebanon and the citizens
[2:43:16]
of Lebanon appreciate that all the hard
[2:43:18]
work I've I've benefited from the
[2:43:20]
program that's why I think I believe in
[2:43:22]
the program but I also believe in being
[2:43:24]
good stewards of the money so back to
[2:43:27]
you
[2:43:28]
okay anybody have any other questions
[2:43:31]
[Music]
[2:43:33]
sure
[2:43:37]
yeah first thank you Mr Mayor for
[2:43:38]
recognizing that we are spitting
[2:43:41]
the citizens money
[2:43:42]
but from that point of view this is my
[2:43:45]
third year and this is an outstanding
[2:43:47]
document this year it's
[2:43:49]
remember right we're having a big fight
[2:43:51]
in the legislature right now because
[2:43:52]
they're writing everything that nobody
[2:43:54]
can understand you can understand this with a fourth
[2:43:59]
grade education that's great we need to
[2:44:01]
continue to do things like that I think
[2:44:03]
that's hats off to you Nancy thank you
[2:44:05]
for providing that to make it easy to
[2:44:08]
understand
[2:44:09]
my other question to the council is
[2:44:13]
I live over on the canal just by Shady
[2:44:16]
Lake and there's been explosive growth
[2:44:18]
in my neck of the woods
[2:44:21]
and explosive growth everywhere if you
[2:44:23]
look at all the multi-family
[2:44:25]
are you guys collecting enough in
[2:44:28]
development fees or whatever to cover
[2:44:30]
some of this
[2:44:31]
because from a business point of view
[2:44:33]
the grills is phenomenal but from a
[2:44:37]
budget point of view it don't look so
[2:44:39]
good so I think that's a hard question
[2:44:40]
you're going to have to continue to ask
[2:44:43]
yourself is
[2:44:45]
with all these girls how are we going to
[2:44:47]
pay for it you would think it would pay
[2:44:48]
for itself but apparently it's not so
[2:44:51]
that that's my general comment to to the
[2:44:54]
council
[2:44:55]
thank you
[2:44:56]
let me see if I can answer that
[2:44:59]
and I was going to say in 15 words or
[2:45:01]
less but it's going to take longer
[2:45:03]
um
[2:45:06]
when new development happens a developer
[2:45:08]
pays a number of fees they pay building
[2:45:11]
permit fees they pay they may pay
[2:45:14]
planning fees to go Annex a piece of
[2:45:16]
property or to develop that property and
[2:45:19]
identify where the infrastructure is
[2:45:21]
going associated with it
[2:45:24]
they pay systems development charges
[2:45:26]
which are designed to cover future costs
[2:45:30]
of
[2:45:31]
expansion to existing infrastructure
[2:45:34]
that is only needed because we have
[2:45:36]
additional growth so if you think about
[2:45:38]
a water treatment plant built to provide
[2:45:40]
water for 40 000 people at some point as
[2:45:44]
this community grows close to forty
[2:45:46]
thousand and you have to expand the
[2:45:47]
plant you have to have money for that
[2:45:49]
somewhere you say between twenty
[2:45:52]
thousand and forty thousand all those
[2:45:53]
people who move in are going to
[2:45:55]
contribute systems development charges
[2:45:57]
that provide most of the funding for
[2:46:00]
that plant expansion in the future
[2:46:02]
none of those fees
[2:46:04]
pay for the general fund Services they
[2:46:08]
don't there is no impact fee for adding
[2:46:11]
police officers or the fire department
[2:46:13]
would tell you adding another fire
[2:46:15]
station or firefighters there are no
[2:46:17]
impact fees that cover the cost of
[2:46:21]
additional land use planning Services
[2:46:24]
additional people at the library none of
[2:46:27]
that is built into any of those
[2:46:30]
resources so we sit with
[2:46:33]
the primary revenue in the general fund
[2:46:35]
is the property tax with tax rates that
[2:46:38]
were set in 1997 with growth and
[2:46:41]
assessed value limited basically to
[2:46:43]
three percent a year
[2:46:45]
so you heard me earlier talking about
[2:46:47]
our labor agreements you've got a cost
[2:46:50]
of living adjustment that's four percent
[2:46:53]
on a revenue that's growing three
[2:46:56]
now sometimes we've had good years so
[2:46:59]
next year we're projecting five percent
[2:47:01]
growth in property tax so you get the
[2:47:03]
three percent basic on your home and
[2:47:05]
your home in your home but you get a
[2:47:07]
knit a little bit more for the new
[2:47:09]
development and we're thinking that
[2:47:11]
that's about another two percent in
[2:47:13]
Revenue next year some years
[2:47:15]
yes some years no you you don't get that
[2:47:18]
new development but I will tell you that
[2:47:20]
over the long term and this is part of
[2:47:22]
the reason for the five-year financial
[2:47:24]
plan that revenue is not growing as fast
[2:47:27]
as our expenses and you have heard
[2:47:29]
routinely we should have more police
[2:47:31]
officers but it's expensive and we don't
[2:47:34]
have the revenue coming in to fund that
[2:47:36]
we should be funding the jail we should
[2:47:38]
be funding Senior Services right and
[2:47:40]
those are the challenges that I think
[2:47:42]
we're in along with
[2:47:44]
almost every other community in this
[2:47:46]
state places like Beaverton which is a
[2:47:50]
very wealthy community with huge
[2:47:52]
industrial tax base they're looking at
[2:47:55]
cutting their budget because their
[2:47:57]
revenue growth is not keeping up with
[2:47:59]
their expense growth
[2:48:01]
and unfortunately there is no room to
[2:48:04]
have an impact that says you build a new
[2:48:05]
apartment building you're gonna you're
[2:48:07]
gonna pay an impact fee that you know
[2:48:09]
will bank and just meter out the
[2:48:11]
interest on to pay for additional police
[2:48:13]
officers that isn't that isn't a part of
[2:48:16]
the equation anywhere that's not an
[2:48:17]
allowed fee
[2:48:19]
hope that answers your question
[2:48:21]
congratulations
[2:48:24]
um
[2:48:26]
inflation drives our costs
[2:48:29]
there are some costs that are driven by
[2:48:32]
growth
[2:48:34]
you heard Frank uh Chief Stevenson talk
[2:48:36]
about
[2:48:38]
um officers per thousand and so as the
[2:48:41]
community grows if you're not growing
[2:48:43]
your police officers you get you know
[2:48:46]
you kind of move from 1.2 to 1.1 to one
[2:48:49]
officer per thousand right
[2:48:51]
um and so at some point you have to be
[2:48:55]
able to add officers to have uh to to
[2:48:59]
bring that ratio up to what is a
[2:49:01]
recommended best practice
[2:49:04]
um and and that is simply not being
[2:49:06]
there's not enough money coming in to do
[2:49:08]
that
[2:49:12]
well I'm with the states in assistance
[2:49:14]
now that we have even more multi-family
[2:49:17]
in the equation
[2:49:19]
your outlook has to even be more dismal
[2:49:21]
then if if you have more multi-family so
[2:49:25]
this and I will say this the state I
[2:49:27]
think is less focused on multi-family
[2:49:30]
they are certainly focused on additional
[2:49:33]
housing across a broad range of prices
[2:49:37]
they have a lot of Focus right now on
[2:49:39]
affordable housing because housing has
[2:49:41]
become so expensive and you know a young
[2:49:45]
married couple with basic jobs you you
[2:49:49]
know School teachers don't make enough
[2:49:51]
money to buy a house that is being built
[2:49:54]
today
[2:49:56]
um and I think as you as you look at
[2:49:58]
that challenge then you've got to find a
[2:50:00]
way to either pay everybody more money
[2:50:02]
or you have to be able to find housing
[2:50:05]
at lower costs and that gets very much
[2:50:07]
into the state's push for more
[2:50:09]
affordable housing that's the work the
[2:50:11]
council's been doing on the housing
[2:50:13]
production strategy which is what can we
[2:50:15]
look at can we go to smaller houses on
[2:50:18]
smaller lots that would be more
[2:50:20]
affordable as a way to help even even
[2:50:24]
mid-level not even we're not even
[2:50:25]
talking like you know very low income
[2:50:28]
people but middle income people being
[2:50:31]
able to acquire housing and move out of
[2:50:34]
an apartment for example
[2:50:36]
um from a from a financing perspective
[2:50:39]
right now developers seem to be able to
[2:50:41]
make a profit building multiple
[2:50:44]
multi-family housing that they don't
[2:50:46]
seem to be able to make building
[2:50:49]
single-family housing or we would be
[2:50:51]
seeing more developers coming in doing
[2:50:53]
single-family housing and a lot of
[2:50:54]
that's inflation it's supply chain it's
[2:50:57]
the lack of Labor it's uh interest rate
[2:51:00]
costs which if you're old enough six and
[2:51:03]
a half percent yeah okay it's worse than
[2:51:05]
you know it's worse than two but I've
[2:51:07]
seen way worse than that
[2:51:09]
um you know first house I bought I was
[2:51:11]
happy to get 13 so you know everything
[2:51:14]
is everything is is coming together in
[2:51:17]
that discussion
[2:51:19]
um and there is no easy answer there is
[2:51:22]
no
[2:51:23]
push a button there is no you know
[2:51:26]
God very godmother with a magic wand
[2:51:29]
coming in saying poof you have money
[2:51:31]
um I will say that uh I do uh in in some
[2:51:36]
of the lobbying work I do with
[2:51:38]
legislators I try to make it perfectly
[2:51:40]
clear that the local government level we
[2:51:43]
do not have the money to do basic
[2:51:46]
Services let alone add on your expanded
[2:51:49]
asks so that's part of the story that I
[2:51:53]
think we need to do a better job of
[2:51:55]
getting to our legislators
[2:51:59]
sure sorry okay
[2:52:02]
it was a lot more I'm sorry if you
[2:52:05]
missed a couple zeros I I have a certain
[2:52:07]
level of passion about this because the
[2:52:09]
property tax system has been broken for
[2:52:11]
years timing you so
[2:52:14]
okay any other question for these folks
[2:52:19]
you can escape the Asylum now thank you very much guys
[2:52:23]
and I'm sure you'll be talking with
[2:52:25]
Nancy or whomever
[2:52:28]
okay
[2:52:32]
so now we're going to move into motions
[2:52:36]
I would
[2:52:38]
entertain a motion
[2:52:40]
are we all
[2:52:42]
talked out well I was just going to ask
[2:52:44]
on that you know we have printed well
[2:52:47]
printed motions for us on paper already
[2:52:49]
and it says uh on the the first one
[2:52:52]
under 7B it says uh for operating
[2:52:55]
towards the end for operating purposes
[2:52:57]
and 1.6 and some change
[2:53:01]
um for payments to bond principles and
[2:53:03]
interest does that is that annotated
[2:53:05]
somewhere in the can I find that yes uh
[2:53:08]
you'll find the 1.6 million conversation
[2:53:11]
on page
[2:53:16]
62. yep that's part of the general
[2:53:18]
obligation bond fund that money goes to
[2:53:21]
pay for The Debt Service uh for the
[2:53:23]
construction related to the Justice
[2:53:25]
Center and the library
[2:53:29]
just so I don't have to look once that
[2:53:32]
drop off I know those two of those at a
[2:53:34]
date 27 I think uh I think it is 20 I'm guessing but I think it's 2028 let
[2:53:41]
me
[2:53:44]
people be here
[2:53:49]
June 2027 is the last payment for the
[2:53:52]
Geo bond fund one of us well that's it
[2:53:57]
now so it's just a couple years yeah
[2:54:01]
I'd like to raise it excuse me I'd like
[2:54:03]
to raise a question about
[2:54:06]
funding for the Pioneer Cemetery it's your microphone on no yes it is I'm
[2:54:12]
sorry let me pull it closer
[2:54:15]
uh I'd like to ask about the Pioneer
[2:54:18]
Cemetery fund
[2:54:20]
um there's not enough money in here to
[2:54:22]
do anything except mow the lawn
[2:54:25]
and there's a lot of those Cemetery
[2:54:28]
stones that have been broken vandalized
[2:54:31]
and some of them have been moved to
[2:54:35]
different places
[2:54:37]
uh I think it's a shame that we don't
[2:54:40]
take care of that Pioneer Cemetery that
[2:54:42]
has all of our founding
[2:54:45]
fathers and mothers that founded this
[2:54:49]
city
[2:54:50]
that are buried there and they're not
[2:54:52]
we're just not even showing any respect
[2:54:55]
at all and I
[2:54:58]
ten thousand dollars is not even close
[2:55:01]
to what is needed
[2:55:03]
is there any way we can raise that
[2:55:08]
uh the budget committee can certainly
[2:55:11]
make a recommendation to uh fund money
[2:55:15]
out of the general fund that's the only
[2:55:18]
other place that you can get any
[2:55:20]
resources all of the other funds are
[2:55:22]
going to be off the table for that but
[2:55:24]
the general fund which
[2:55:26]
by definition is you know everything uh
[2:55:30]
the budget committee and ultimately the
[2:55:32]
city council can decide how you want to
[2:55:35]
allocate that money and you are
[2:55:37]
certainly welcome to allocate uh either
[2:55:40]
uh
[2:55:43]
you either reduce a budget in the
[2:55:45]
general fund someplace by some amount to
[2:55:48]
put it into the cemetery or you would uh
[2:55:51]
make a motion to
[2:55:53]
take that out of uh general fund ending
[2:55:57]
fund balance and put it into the
[2:56:00]
proposed budget you would have to name
[2:56:02]
the amount where you want to get those
[2:56:04]
Appropriations I would recommend that
[2:56:07]
you hang on to that
[2:56:10]
um I I will tell you the Motions that
[2:56:11]
are printed here are the required
[2:56:13]
motions for the budget committee to make
[2:56:14]
so the budget committee has to recommend
[2:56:16]
to the city council how much tax rate to
[2:56:20]
Levy and how much to Levy for Debt
[2:56:22]
Service that's motion the first motion
[2:56:24]
under B
[2:56:25]
the second motion is basically saying
[2:56:27]
starting with the proposed budget as
[2:56:30]
it's proposed you recommend moving that
[2:56:33]
forward and then you take amendments to
[2:56:36]
that so if you wanted to fund
[2:56:39]
the Pioneer Cemetery
[2:56:42]
uh five thousand dollars out of general
[2:56:44]
fund fund balance for example once the
[2:56:47]
motion is is uh red and seconded you
[2:56:53]
would make a motion to amend to include
[2:56:55]
five thousand dollars general fund money
[2:56:58]
using fund balance for the Pioneer
[2:57:01]
Cemetery
[2:57:02]
and then there would be a vote on that
[2:57:03]
motion
[2:57:05]
and any other amendments that would go
[2:57:07]
through whether you want to add things
[2:57:08]
or take things out whatever you want to
[2:57:10]
put in or out then you get to and you
[2:57:13]
would vote on each Amendment and then
[2:57:15]
you would get to voting on the final
[2:57:17]
amended
[2:57:19]
motion if that makes sense would this be
[2:57:22]
done now or later it would be done after
[2:57:25]
that second motion is read and seconded
[2:57:28]
okay so so first do the first motion to
[2:57:31]
Levy taxes and the tax rate the 5.1364
[2:57:35]
is our maximum tax rate that we can do
[2:57:37]
the budget is built assuming you do that
[2:57:39]
again you don't have to Levy the maximum
[2:57:43]
tax rate you can Levy less than that would change the revenue
[2:57:47]
projections which would probably also
[2:57:49]
change expenditure projections you may
[2:57:51]
not recommend levying more than that but
[2:57:54]
you're making that recommendation to
[2:57:56]
city council
[2:57:57]
if you reduced that Levy rate when it
[2:58:00]
gets to city council Council can't
[2:58:01]
increase it so you got to know that
[2:58:04]
without like republishing the budget and
[2:58:05]
doing a bunch of other things but
[2:58:07]
legally this committee can make that
[2:58:10]
recommendation
[2:58:11]
you got any idea how much you think I
[2:58:13]
don't know how much I don't know how
[2:58:15]
much it would take I have no idea I was
[2:58:17]
at a seminar this last two weeks ago and
[2:58:21]
he was talking about
[2:58:24]
rebuilding a basic
[2:58:26]
monument that had fallen down one of
[2:58:29]
these six seven foot high
[2:58:31]
and it was about several thousand
[2:58:34]
dollars
[2:58:35]
to do that but I'm not saying that we
[2:58:38]
need to do that everything but I think
[2:58:39]
on a yearly basis we ought to be doing
[2:58:41]
something
[2:58:43]
rather than nothing and that's actually
[2:58:45]
I can speak on this a little bit
[2:58:47]
um there's there's a couple groups
[2:58:49]
coming together right now I know about
[2:58:51]
the Pioneer Cemetery my wife's uh is uh
[2:58:54]
involved with that I'm supposed to be
[2:58:56]
part of it but I haven't been able to
[2:58:58]
make it okay so so I I what I'm what the
[2:59:02]
way I understand it and correct me if
[2:59:04]
I'm wrong 7A we already passed that
[2:59:06]
motion yes so
[2:59:08]
um we can bring this up in regular
[2:59:11]
session and approve prove it can't we so
[2:59:15]
if if the non-dedicated revenue from
[2:59:18]
revenue sharing goes in general fund can
[2:59:20]
we appropriate it at a regular session
[2:59:23]
so uh to be clear what what you have
[2:59:28]
acted on is to say state revenue sharing
[2:59:30]
is a general fund non-dedicated Revenue
[2:59:32]
that is already built into the proposed
[2:59:35]
budget okay so when we're talking about
[2:59:37]
the cemetery and appropriating money
[2:59:40]
you are talking about creating an
[2:59:42]
appropriation that in the proposed
[2:59:44]
budget does not exist and you don't you don't have to say what the revenue
[2:59:49]
source is you have to say you're either
[2:59:52]
taking the Appropriations from something
[2:59:54]
else
[2:59:55]
and I'm going to pick on Kelly so we're
[2:59:57]
going to reduce the planning budget by
[2:59:59]
ten thousand dollars and put ten
[3:00:01]
thousand dollars into the Pioneer
[3:00:02]
Cemetery
[3:00:04]
because I love you
[3:00:06]
um or
[3:00:08]
if you don't want to reduce that from
[3:00:11]
some place that is in the budget you
[3:00:13]
reduce it from the ending unappropriated
[3:00:15]
fund balance so where we currently say
[3:00:18]
the ending fund balance is one point is
[3:00:21]
I don't even have the number right in
[3:00:22]
front of me as like
[3:00:24]
uh one and a half million dollars if you
[3:00:27]
wanted to to put ten thousand dollars to
[3:00:29]
the cemetery we would go to 1.49 million
[3:00:32]
dollars of ending unappropriated fund
[3:00:34]
balance with that ten thousand dollars
[3:00:36]
going to the Pioneer Cemetery to do work
[3:00:40]
um I I will note from staff's
[3:00:42]
perspective we've been
[3:00:44]
um we've provided information to the the
[3:00:47]
volunteer group that's working on the
[3:00:49]
cemetery stuff there are state grants
[3:00:51]
that we can get but to apply for those
[3:00:53]
grants we have to be able to say what
[3:00:55]
we're going to do who's going to do it
[3:00:57]
how much it's going to cost and what is
[3:00:59]
our matching and that matching can
[3:01:00]
include in-kind services but without an
[3:01:03]
organized group coming in saying we will
[3:01:06]
donate a hundred hours of in-kind
[3:01:08]
services which we can then quantify for
[3:01:11]
purposes of Grant and get a match we
[3:01:14]
have not been able to apply for any of
[3:01:16]
those grants there are some that are
[3:01:17]
historic preservation for cemeteries
[3:01:18]
some that could do Parks some some
[3:01:20]
additional work but we're really looking
[3:01:22]
for what the plan is that is being put
[3:01:26]
forward and and we don't we have nobody
[3:01:29]
on staff who's like a historical
[3:01:31]
headstone expert
[3:01:34]
um who knows what would be necessary to
[3:01:36]
restore them
[3:01:38]
um the the work that we do there is hand
[3:01:41]
mowing
[3:01:42]
um it's got to be hand weeding we can't
[3:01:44]
put out pesticides we don't irrigate it
[3:01:47]
because we uh know that there are
[3:01:50]
burials where there are no headstones
[3:01:53]
and we don't wish to disturb the Earth
[3:01:56]
where that occurs so we've been kind of
[3:02:00]
stuck without a group that has said
[3:02:01]
here's what we're going to do here's the
[3:02:03]
plan we wish to initiate to know what if anything could be done so that's
[3:02:09]
what we've been waiting for us to have
[3:02:11]
that appropriation be made any time by
[3:02:14]
US during the course after the if you're
[3:02:16]
taking it from the general fund can't we
[3:02:17]
do that at any time so once the budget
[3:02:20]
is adopted in June
[3:02:23]
the only way that you would be able to
[3:02:25]
create that appropriation would be to
[3:02:26]
use general fund contingencies and
[3:02:28]
transfer them to for example
[3:02:29]
non-departmental to make a grant to a
[3:02:31]
group to put that together that would
[3:02:34]
still exist that and frankly that exists
[3:02:36]
today
[3:02:37]
you could ask to have that brought
[3:02:39]
forward on the June agenda if there was
[3:02:41]
going to be a June 2023 expenditure
[3:02:44]
before the new fiscal year but again
[3:02:46]
it's what's the plan and what's being
[3:02:48]
asked for and I have uh I've had nobody
[3:02:51]
come in saying
[3:02:53]
I need XD dollars this is what I would
[3:02:55]
do with it so I think this is part of
[3:02:57]
our history it's something that we're
[3:02:59]
just kind of shooting in the dark here I
[3:03:01]
think some of the other funds that are
[3:03:02]
in here though have are are based on
[3:03:05]
like donations that those groups receive
[3:03:08]
like I look at the police special
[3:03:09]
Revenue fund which is right next to the
[3:03:11]
Pioneer Cemetery fund the library
[3:03:13]
special Revenue fund the senior services
[3:03:15]
special Revenue fund and these all
[3:03:17]
receive donations to help fund those
[3:03:19]
special projects at the senior center at
[3:03:21]
the library you know Shop with a cop etc I is there are we the is there not a
[3:03:28]
group that does this for the Pioneer
[3:03:31]
Cemetery it's in the formation yeah it's in the works right now they're
[3:03:35]
starting to come together
[3:03:37]
um there's a couple personalities that
[3:03:39]
reached out to to my wife and started
[3:03:42]
talking so I think that's the piece
[3:03:44]
we're missing yeah yeah they're bringing
[3:03:47]
it together right now I I would submit
[3:03:49]
that that at this point we'd probably
[3:03:51]
leave it alone let that group come
[3:03:54]
together formulate a plan and and move
[3:03:57]
on that way because I share your
[3:03:59]
sentiment that that it's a you go down
[3:04:01]
here it's just like really
[3:04:02]
but but at this point I think we need to
[3:04:06]
let the let the uh that that group come
[3:04:08]
together do uh fundraising and uh uh re
[3:04:13]
try to receive donations that kind of
[3:04:15]
stuff and then actually come up with a a
[3:04:17]
really uh good plan to to address
[3:04:20]
because we've looked at
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um we've talked about fencing around it
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um improving Trails lighting cameras
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um there's there's veterans there from
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Civil War Spanish-American war and uh
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war of 1812. there's not many cemeteries
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that have those unless you go to
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Arlington so
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um you know maybe a flagpole but that's
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still all uh Pie in the Sky type things
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right now so
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um I would submit that that maybe we
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hold on with the current budget just for
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maintenance let that group come together
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get uh get organized and uh maybe
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revisit it next year I agree so yep
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so I take it we're on to these motions
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I'd like to still waiting for a motion
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I'd like to make a motion there you go I
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move to recommend the city of Lebanon
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City Council Levy the permanent property
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tax rate of 5.1364 per one thousand
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dollars of assessed value for operating
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purposes and 1 666 one million six
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hundred sixty six thousand one hundred
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twenty four dollars for payment of bond
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principal and interest
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we have a motion do we have a second we have a second all those in
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favor
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aye aye aye all those opposed
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okay we would uh entertain a second
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motion before you do if I might
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um so we we discussed that certainly
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things kind of went through the process
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a little last minute so what you have in
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front of you is actually that motion on
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the screen uh this is what you're
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delivered on Friday
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um so
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either way what was added was some
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contingencies in our utility funds
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um at the last minute and so this is the
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updated budget based on what you had in
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your documents delivered to you last
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week
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well I'd like to make a motion
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I moved to approve the fiscal year 2023
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2024 budget in the amount of 85 million
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three hundred twelve thousand five
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hundred eighty eight dollars
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as proposed by the city's budget officer
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recommended
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and recommend the city of Lebanon City
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Council adopt the fiscal year budget
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it's been moved uh second seconded all
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those in favor
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aye aye aye all those opposed
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okay
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um we um we're gonna look for one more
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motion you got one more yeah
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is this emotion or is this an amendment
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to the previous motion this would just
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be a motion because you're not changing
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the budget amount okay everybody listen
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carefully because I don't know if I got
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this right
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um I'd like to make a motion to direct
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staff to work with LDA to create a
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quarterly payment plan based on
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adherence to state and federal financial
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laws to fund the Main Street manager
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position with thirty thousand dollars of
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City provided funds
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second thank you been moved and seconded
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any discussion
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all those in favor
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aye aye aye opposed
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motion passes
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and with that I'm going to
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close that hearing good job with the
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gavel
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a damn near broke used to it left-handed
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and I'm going to take a 10 minute break
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before we power through the rest of it
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thank you
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foreign
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let's all start talking again
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okay we're going to adjourn as the city
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uh city of Lebanon budget committee and
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reconvene as the urban renewal agency
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budget committee
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we just did
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so first one FY 2023 2024 Lebanon urban
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renewal agency budget presentation that
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will be by Nancy and Brandon and and I'm
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going to sum up for you because this is
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pretty straightforward we do have five
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urban renewal districts the budget is uh
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included here in total we are talking
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about a total requirements including
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appropriated contingencies and
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unappropriated ending balances of 5.5
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million dollars most of that is budgeted
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for Debt Service we do have a a piece
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that is budgeted for capital outlay in
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case basically in case we get an
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opportunity to address some of the
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projects remaining in an urban renewal
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District these tend to be spurred by a
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need you know raised by a private
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developer to do something so we don't
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have a lot here
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um pretty straightforward but because we
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have the five districts you do have to
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go in and out of public hearings have a
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motion I'm going to note for the record
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uh the only people remaining in the room
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are staff and none of them intend to
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testify
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on any of the urban renewal districts so
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I don't think we need to call for public
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comment and wait uh I think we can just
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move forward but uh Brandon and I would
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answer any questions you might have
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I have one
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um Nancy mentioned the Northwest urban
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renewal tax will
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um that only has a few more years I
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can't remember
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so we have Debt Service for the
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Northwest urban renewal District that
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lasts until 2032.
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that is 10 more years okay okay 10 more
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years and then that money that 959
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000 or probably even more in 10 years
[3:17:39]
will go into the general fund well it is
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returned to all of the taxing districts
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so City fire district school district
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right so we'll get it we'll get a large
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cut we'll get a large cut of that more
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than 300 000 a year in Revenue
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that's all that was my only question
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okay and I will ask for public comment
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just to keep us legal
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okay so
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um I'm gonna open the uh proposed urban
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renewal District taxes
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any public comment
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seeing none I would entertain a motion
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I move to recommend the urban renewal
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agency approved the Northwest Lebanon
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urban renewal District taxes for fiscal
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year 23-24 at the tax increment value of
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959 488 seconds I have a motion in a
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second all those of all those in favor
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opposed I will close that most that
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ring
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and then we're going to open the cheetah
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Lake urd
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uh hearing any public no next do I have
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a motion I move to recommend the urban
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neural agency approved the cheetah Lake
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ERD taxes for fiscal year 2324 at the
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rate of 100 of the amount from the
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division of tax I have motion do I have
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a second second I have a second
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all those in favor
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aye aye opposed
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closed open the Northwest Gateway urd
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do you have any public comment nope next
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I'll take a motion
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third one
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it's your turn I move to recommend the
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urban renewal agency approved the North
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Gateway urban renewal District taxes for
[3:19:39]
federal year 2324 at the rate of 100 of
[3:19:42]
the amount from the division of tax so I
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have a motion do I have second second
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all those in favor say aye aye opposed
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closed we're going to open the hearing
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for the downtown urd any public comment
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nothing I'll accept a motion
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a movie recommend the urban rural agency
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approve the downtown ERD taxes for
[3:20:08]
fiscal year 23 24 at the rate of 100 of
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the amount from the division of tax
[3:20:15]
I have a motion and it's seconded
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all those in favor
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aye aye all those opposed
[3:20:22]
closed
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I'll open the Mill Race urd hearing
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do I have a motion
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a move to recommend the urban renewal
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agency approved the Mill Race urd taxes
[3:20:36]
for fiscal year 2023-24 at the rate of
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100 of the amount from the division of
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tax second
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moved and seconded all those in favor
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aye aye aye opposed
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we will close that one
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and we're going to go to the
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proposed urban renewal budget I'm
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looking for a motion
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iMovie approved the urban renewal agency
[3:21:04]
fiscal year 2324 budget in the sum of 4
[3:21:07]
million seven hundred twenty thousand
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eight hundred and eighty eight dollars
[3:21:10]
as proposed by the agency's budget
[3:21:12]
officer do I have a second second second
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all those in favor
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aye aye all those opposed
[3:21:20]
it passes and I'm going to adjourn the
[3:21:23]
urban renewal agency budget committee
[3:21:26]
and reconvene as the city of Lebanon
[3:21:28]
budget committee
[3:21:30]
we're going to go to
[3:21:32]
committee comments anything
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I will
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um I this is my tenth one of these for
[3:21:40]
the city of Lebanon
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fifth one that somehow I ended up as the
[3:21:44]
chairman
[3:21:47]
see if we can do it again for you next
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year
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I will kill you
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um I just want to say of all the budgets
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that I've had to read starting with way
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back when when
[3:21:58]
um
[3:21:58]
John hit was the the manager and it was
[3:22:01]
like playing Tetris it was with your
[3:22:05]
eyes closed
[3:22:07]
and it was you couldn't figure out who
[3:22:10]
hit John and there was fund transfers
[3:22:13]
for the darndest things and everything
[3:22:15]
was all over the map
[3:22:17]
this this
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was I I sat down for a whole day to read
[3:22:22]
this thing and it took me an hour and a
[3:22:23]
half
[3:22:24]
and I understood it then I sat down and
[3:22:27]
read it again it took me an hour and I
[3:22:29]
understood it so kudos for putting
[3:22:32]
together something that makes a lot more
[3:22:35]
sense and it's more user friendly and I
[3:22:38]
hope that Trend continues
[3:22:40]
and it's just such a pleasure after the
[3:22:43]
ones we used to do to have this just yay
[3:22:47]
I concur I'm glad I have that fourth
[3:22:49]
grade education you were talking
[3:22:51]
about and I would thank you and I would
[3:22:53]
say Brandon and I both have
[3:22:55]
additional improvements coming
[3:22:58]
well you are a banker so fourth grade
[3:23:00]
it's all you need
[3:23:03]
yes I apologize for that
[3:23:07]
we were changing things at the very last
[3:23:08]
minute clearly as we saw it up on the board for
[3:23:12]
the Amendments yeah
[3:23:15]
um next budget meeting
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we don't need it we don't need that this
[3:23:20]
will go to the City Council next in June
[3:23:22]
right June 14th June 14th
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are there any other comments
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we're