[0:05] uh today is november 15th of 2021

[0:09] and this is the regular rescheduled

[0:11] meeting of the modern village council

[0:14] um like to call the meetings order and

[0:17] on behalf of the village council i wish

[0:19] everyone in the village of the happiest

[0:21] of thanksgivings

[0:23] coming up i know sometimes it seems like

[0:25] we don't have a lot to be thankful for

[0:28] in these times but i think

[0:30] if we all reflect on it we're all pretty

[0:32] lucky

[0:33] to be here

[0:35] to enjoy it

[0:36] so

[0:37] with that

[0:39] we would please stand for the pledges

[0:45] i pledge allegiance to the fight of the

[0:48] united states of america

[0:50] and to the republic for which it stands

[0:53] one nation

[0:54] under indivisible with liberty and

[0:58] justice for all

[1:00] we lost our usual

[1:04] trustee that gave the invitation i don't

[1:06] know if the trustee would care

[1:16] yeah

[1:17] well

[1:19] uh lord look down on us

[1:21] and help us to make good and just

[1:23] decisions this evening

[1:25] and please watch out for our residents

[1:28] and the rest of the world

[1:30] as we make our way through these

[1:33] interesting and sometimes perilous times

[1:36] thank you

[1:52] president mcdonald here

[1:55] jennifer aarondale

[1:57] mrs swack yes you're mr kennedy

[2:07] here um we do have a forum

[2:13] trustee erindale

[2:15] is on an excused absence and we have a

[2:17] vacancy in office that

[2:20] we hope to fill this evening as part of

[2:22] our deliberations

[2:25] um

[2:27] i'd like to move on then to the minutes

[2:29] of the october 11th

[2:32] regular meeting of the village council

[2:34] for council's consideration

[2:37] review and approval

[2:40] are there any questions or concerns on

[2:42] the

[2:44] um minutes of that meeting

[2:47] i'd like to make a motion to approve the

[2:48] minutes of the october 11th meeting

[2:54] motion by trustee kennedy's second by

[2:56] trustee

[2:58] swag

[3:01] any questions on the motion

[3:03] hearing none

[3:05] all in favor of approval of the

[3:07] october 11th 2021 movie minutes please

[3:10] say aye

[3:12] closely say no

[3:15] motion carry

[3:18] council has before it

[3:20] the

[3:21] minutes of the

[3:23] are after minutes the treasurer's report

[3:27] for

[3:28] oh

[3:31] thank you

[3:35] all right council is before the

[3:38] proposed agenda with the council's

[3:40] indulgence i'd like to add

[3:44] an additional item to new business

[3:46] that being the appointment of

[3:49] two park and recreation committee

[3:51] members

[3:52] to the park and recreation committee

[3:56] are there any other changes

[3:57] edits on the agenda

[4:00] if none a motion to approve as amended

[4:02] would be in order

[4:04] to make washington

[4:06] well second

[4:09] any questions on the motion

[4:11] hearing none all in favor of the motion

[4:14] to approve the amended agenda please say

[4:16] aye

[4:17] opposed please say no

[4:19] motion carries

[4:24] okay moving on council has received the

[4:27] treasury report for the month of october

[4:31] are there any questions changes

[4:33] corrections

[4:36] if none the motion to approve and file

[4:38] the report will be ordered

[4:41] will make motion to approve and file

[4:43] this register

[4:44] i will second

[4:46] motion by trustee swag sentenced by

[4:49] trustee kennedy

[4:51] to approve and file

[4:52] the treasury free court as presented

[4:56] any questions on the motion

[4:58] hearing none

[4:59] roll call vote please

[5:02] president mcdonough yes mrs swag yes mr

[5:05] kennedy yes

[5:08] very good thank you promotion

[5:10] approved

[5:11] the next item on the agenda

[5:13] is the accounts payable for the month of

[5:16] october

[5:18] council has received the listing of the

[5:20] items

[5:21] and the amounts to be paid

[5:25] i'd like to make a motion to pay the

[5:26] bills in the amount of 16

[5:29] 259.36 for general eleven thousand six

[5:32] hundred fifty two dollars sixty nine

[5:34] cents per major

[5:35] four hundred dollars for local and

[5:37] nothing for mill park recreation

[5:40] [Music]

[5:42] thank you

[5:43] on the motion by trustee kennedy and the

[5:45] seconds on trustee swag

[5:47] motion to pay the bills in the amounts

[5:49] stipulated any questions on the motion

[5:53] and low call to approve please mrs swag

[5:56] yes mr kennedy yes president mcdonald

[5:59] yes

[6:01] okay motion is approved

[6:04] oh

[6:05] moving on

[6:07] we're having the public hearing

[6:09] on the village of leonard

[6:11] community development block grant

[6:14] program

[6:15] participation for

[6:17] 2022

[6:20] that motion

[6:22] or that that public hearing would be for

[6:24] the public to give comment to the

[6:26] village council

[6:27] on proposed uses for the monies

[6:31] i am recommending that the monies be

[6:36] used for purposes of the minor home

[6:38] repair program

[6:42] so

[6:43] that would be one thing that you would

[6:45] may wish to comment on when we go into

[6:47] the public hearing

[6:50] of course there are other uses

[6:52] but

[6:53] we've basically

[6:56] had limited

[6:57] programs outside of minor home repair

[7:01] and architectural repair so

[7:04] we'll try and respond accordingly if

[7:05] needed so looking for a motion to close

[7:08] the regular meeting and open the

[7:10] community development public hearing i'd

[7:13] like to

[7:14] make a motion to close the regular

[7:15] meeting and open the community for a

[7:17] public hearing for the community

[7:18] development block grant i second that

[7:21] there's a motion in a second

[7:23] to close the regular meeting and opening

[7:26] black grant public hearing at 709

[7:32] do we have a roll call please to close

[7:34] the meeting mr kennedy yes

[7:36] mrs swan yes president mcdonald yes

[7:41] okay so at this time this opportunity

[7:44] for the public to address the village

[7:46] council about their feelings dependent

[7:48] on the use of the 2022 block grant

[7:51] funding available through the oakland

[7:53] county block frame program

[7:56] anybody have a comment

[7:58] i have a question

[8:00] what are the other opportunities that

[8:02] it can be used for

[8:05] well it's a rather long list

[8:07] many of which the village does has never

[8:09] even had

[8:11] qualifications to use and that a lot of

[8:14] it is programs

[8:17] for helping

[8:18] low middle income people with

[8:22] schooling

[8:23] meals

[8:24] things like that that we really we don't

[8:27] have

[8:28] that type of

[8:29] infrastructure here in the village

[8:32] what we have used in the past is has

[8:35] been for

[8:36] projects like sidewalks

[8:38] um

[8:40] currently we're not qualified to use

[8:42] them for sidewalks the only use we can

[8:45] use the money

[8:47] that is sidewalk related is for

[8:50] creating handicap

[8:51] interception warning signs and ramps

[8:57] for

[8:58] disabled persons to use the sidewalk

[9:01] safely

[9:03] minor home repair program which is for a

[9:05] moment low

[9:07] mid-income

[9:10] persons in the village that have emerged

[9:12] emergency repairs and not qualified by

[9:15] income the age is not a factor it's just

[9:18] a matter of income

[9:21] we do

[9:22] wells

[9:23] furnaces

[9:25] groups

[9:26] a variety of

[9:28] applications are used that way

[9:32] those are the ones that i'm most

[9:34] familiar with that the village qualifies

[9:37] for

[9:38] and can manage so it could be used for

[9:40] ada sidewalk

[9:42] yeah could a portion be attributed to

[9:45] that

[9:46] we have in the past attributed it and we

[9:50] could

[9:52] reallocate it if we

[9:55] if and when we do that type of work

[9:58] or we could do a port or we could do a

[10:00] portion of it

[10:01] we're talking

[10:03] we have not received a final amount for

[10:05] the amount available

[10:08] but it's estimated to be around seven

[10:09] thousand dollars

[10:13] are there any open communities

[10:19] there's one that we've already approved

[10:22] with existing funding

[10:25] okay

[10:26] are there any other comments

[10:29] if none

[10:30] look for the council to

[10:33] i would like to make a motion to close

[10:34] the public hearing

[10:39] is there a second hollywood second thank

[10:41] you

[10:43] okay

[10:44] um to close the public hearing at 7 11

[10:50] and

[10:50] um

[10:52] ask for a roll call vote to close the

[10:54] public hearing and reopen the regular

[10:56] village meeting president mcdonald yes

[10:59] mrs sweat yes mr kennedy yes

[11:03] thank you

[11:04] we're back in session with our regular

[11:07] meeting

[11:08] okay at this time

[11:10] it's an opportunity

[11:12] during public comment for the public to

[11:14] address the ruling council

[11:17] there are some public comment guidelines

[11:19] adopted by the village council

[11:24] this is your opportunity to inform your

[11:26] council members about your views

[11:29] if you are here regarding an agony

[11:31] agenda for tonight you will have an

[11:33] opportunity to speak what consideration

[11:35] of that item is being considered

[11:38] the same time limits and rules apply

[11:40] during the conduct of all business

[11:43] and during the meeting you would please

[11:45] state your name and address for the

[11:46] meeting record after being recognized by

[11:48] the village president or president pro

[11:51] tem and direct your comments to the

[11:53] president and the board at that time

[11:59] policy is to limit each speaker to three

[12:01] minutes for their comment

[12:04] after all desiring to speak if they had

[12:06] an opportunity to speak to the council member may request one

[12:10] additional three minutes

[12:11] for any new or repeat public speakers to

[12:14] address the council

[12:15] at which point the council may vote to

[12:18] extend the time period as indicated

[12:21] so at this time the council will

[12:24] recommend will recognize anyone that

[12:27] would like to address us

[12:32] okay

[12:33] hearing none

[12:35] we'll move on then from a comment

[12:38] to

[12:41] the

[12:42] art new business

[12:44] that's an example of what the timer

[12:46] sounds like

[12:49] and it reminded me to

[12:52] turn my phone volume down

[12:55] um

[12:57] okay

[12:58] the first item of new business is

[13:00] council trustee vacancy

[13:03] village

[13:04] trustee

[13:06] charlene southerly

[13:08] resigned

[13:09] as of after our october meeting

[13:14] and so and has since moved out of the

[13:16] village

[13:17] so the council declared a vacancy

[13:20] and asked for letters of interest and

[13:23] res and resumes

[13:25] from any persons in the village wishing

[13:28] to

[13:30] be considered for appointment to that

[13:33] vacancy it would last the term would be

[13:36] until the next regular election

[13:39] which would

[13:40] then serve they would either be up for

[13:43] the balance of the term or a new term

[13:46] depending on when charlene's term

[13:48] uh would have ended originally

[13:52] the current term

[13:53] so in response to that uh

[13:56] and we advertised

[13:58] on the village website and posts and

[14:00] vacancies

[14:02] notifications and we received two

[14:06] letters of interest and with resumes

[14:10] since since that time one of the

[14:15] residents that have put in

[14:17] a

[14:18] letter of interest withdrew it as

[14:21] they are moving out of the village

[14:23] so they won't be around

[14:26] so that leaves us with one

[14:28] um

[14:31] one

[14:33] letter of interest

[14:34] and resume it was from

[14:37] john hawkins who lives at 23 south

[14:40] street

[14:42] here in the village

[14:46] and for the interest of all concerned i

[14:48] will

[14:50] summarize his letter of interest and his

[14:53] resume

[14:56] he indicates that he heard that trustee

[14:59] southern he was leaving

[15:01] um he does comment that while leonard

[15:03] will be sad to see her move i'm

[15:05] interested in filling the position she

[15:06] occupied

[15:08] he's his name is john hawkins and i am he is currently a

[15:13] resident of london grew up in farmington

[15:16] hills

[15:17] and at 13 his parents made the move to

[15:19] the leonard

[15:21] before they made the move

[15:23] he never heard of our town

[15:25] but after he got here he began to fall

[15:27] in love with two years ago he got

[15:30] married and a year ago who purchased his

[15:32] first home located in the village

[15:35] he has a 10 month son

[15:37] along with his wife and they're excited

[15:39] about raising your family here

[15:42] and it's great to be

[15:43] considered an honor to be part of the

[15:45] village council

[15:47] and we can

[15:48] bring hope more enthusiasm and

[15:51] excitement unfold to the village

[15:57] with that

[15:59] currently works for detroit diesel

[16:03] he's

[16:04] educated at oakland community college

[16:08] i'm going to

[16:09] phoenix university

[16:11] since

[16:12] november of 2019

[16:16] are any questions from the council

[16:19] it's really not my position to recommend

[16:23] this this is a council decision

[16:25] um so i would leave it open for the council and

[16:30] then we'll take public comment

[16:32] on

[16:35] i have that questions personally so

[16:38] he actually now lives at 255 east album

[16:42] which would be star's house

[16:45] so

[16:46] i know personally so i have no questions

[16:53] well

[16:54] you can look at it as we have a default

[16:57] situation but i think it's great that

[17:00] someone did step up and take the time to

[17:02] inform us and all that so open the floor

[17:05] are there any comments i'm just curious

[17:07] where he's at

[17:09] um he may not have been aware of the

[17:12] meeting night change i never did

[17:15] hear from him he didn't attend the last

[17:41] okay

[17:43] when trusty swag returns we'll

[17:47] see if the

[17:48] council will take any action

[18:04] i became a village trustee

[18:07] when charlie hamilton and bob mccallum

[18:09] knocked at my door one night

[18:12] because i had run for the job and had

[18:15] lost the first election

[18:18] and then hazel green who was the trustee

[18:21] uh moved out of the village and they

[18:23] needed somebody

[18:24] so they came down and asked me

[18:34] we do have some water bottles

[18:42] okay

[18:43] all right um

[18:45] what is the pleasure of the village

[18:47] council

[18:51] i'd like to make a motion that we

[18:52] appoint john hopkins as

[18:55] trustee for the remainder of the

[18:58] term

[19:02] okay we have a motion by trustee kennedy

[19:05] and the second by trustee swack

[19:07] to

[19:08] appoint john hawkins

[19:12] as viewers trustee to serve out

[19:15] the balance of

[19:18] the term

[19:20] or

[19:21] until the next general election

[19:23] whichever comes first

[19:26] is there any question on the motion

[19:31] hearing none um i'll ask for more call

[19:34] hope please

[19:36] mr sweat yes mr kennedy yeah president

[19:40] yes

[19:42] so

[19:43] mr hawkins is appointed to the village

[19:45] council he will be notified of that

[19:48] and i expect we'll

[19:51] see him

[19:52] the truck

[19:53] village clerk could swear him in at any

[19:55] time

[19:57] between now and hopefully sooner rather

[20:00] than later

[20:02] all right

[20:04] moving on uh president pro tem

[20:07] uh as council knows um trustee sullivan

[20:11] was the president of town having vacated

[20:13] her position and moved out of the

[20:15] community uh that opening is where that

[20:18] appointment is open i would like to

[20:20] recommend the council that uh trustee

[20:23] alex kennedy

[20:24] uh he appointed as president

[20:27] i will make a motion to prove for to

[20:29] appoint alex's protest

[20:31] thank you

[20:32] and i will second that coach

[20:35] are there any questions on the motion

[20:38] is the candidate willing to assume the

[20:40] position

[20:41] yeah

[20:42] thank you okay then uh lastly we'll call

[20:45] vote

[20:46] uh to appoint uh

[20:48] mr kennedy as president pro tem you may

[20:51] vote um

[20:58] uh president mcdonald yes mrs swag yes

[21:00] mr kennedy yes

[21:03] thank you alex it is an important

[21:05] service for the world

[21:10] all right

[21:12] um

[21:13] next item is the 2022 community

[21:15] development clock

[21:17] grant program

[21:19] resolution

[21:21] um

[21:23] but we advertised had our public hearing

[21:27] and now it is time for the village to

[21:30] village council to determine

[21:33] the program

[21:35] or programs that the money would be used

[21:38] for

[21:40] in the past we've used it for the

[21:43] most recent past are have been

[21:46] basically two programs minor home repair

[21:49] program

[21:50] and the removing architectural barriers

[21:52] program

[21:54] we can put some in each or we can put

[21:58] all in one

[22:00] if that would be my recommendation that

[22:03] we use those two programs and how much

[22:05] we allocate to them

[22:07] is up for discussion at this point i'll

[22:09] ask the council first

[22:12] going into the cold season

[22:16] do we have enough to as a furnace

[22:20] currently we should

[22:22] um

[22:24] one of you said we transferred when we

[22:26] reallocated

[22:28] um

[22:28] we reallocated from the removing

[22:30] architectural barriers to the mine home

[22:32] repair program in order to do the trees

[22:35] and there is a

[22:39] several thousand left in that

[22:42] however

[22:43] a furnace can be anywhere from two to

[22:45] five thousand dollars so

[22:48] i think we definitely should put some in

[22:51] that or

[22:52] yeah we can reallocate um it takes time

[22:56] a couple months it looks like at least

[22:59] if you do reallocate but

[23:01] well i wouldn't be i mean right now

[23:03] architectural barriers yeah we're not

[23:05] going to do anything network many times

[23:07] [Music]

[23:10] but this money won't be available until

[23:13] july or august yeah

[23:15] late next year and we'll have plenty of

[23:17] time to reallocate before then right

[23:31] the money comes to

[23:33] oakland county from the federal

[23:34] government and oakland county it

[23:37] distributes it to the local communities

[23:39] that don't have their own collateral

[23:43] so that the amount to be allocated as

[23:45] you said seven thousand

[23:47] we're i'm sure around

[23:53] over the last 12 years can we allocate

[23:55] based on that percentage then say 75 to

[23:57] over here 25 as soon as we know the

[24:00] number

[24:01] i don't see why not

[24:03] um yes the pleasure of the council yeah

[24:06] i would

[24:07] the way that i'm looking at this right

[24:08] now is i would price with 50 50 because

[24:11] every time we've done

[24:13] architectural barriers in the past two

[24:15] dollars and we're reprogramming it

[24:17] but if we have

[24:21] availability to use those funds i'd like

[24:24] to not have to go through the process

[24:26] so i think we can make the determination

[24:29] say october next year

[24:31] to reprogram for

[24:34] different differences

[24:37] if that makes sense so i would like to make a motion to split

[24:41] the 2022

[24:43] community development

[24:44] block

[24:45] [Music]

[24:49] removal of architectural barriers

[24:51] [Music]

[24:59] okay so the final motion by trustee

[25:02] kennedy

[25:03] in the second by trustee swag

[25:06] the motion is to allocate 50

[25:09] of the

[25:11] final amount to the minor home repair

[25:14] program from 50

[25:16] the other 50 of the final amount

[25:18] to the removing architectural barriers

[25:21] program

[25:23] second by trustee swag are any questions

[25:26] on the motion for approving that

[25:30] hearing none can we have a roll call

[25:32] then please

[25:34] mrs swag yes president mcdonald yes mr

[25:37] kennedy yes

[25:39] okay so the motion carriers and carries

[25:42] in the county movie form

[25:44] of

[25:47] that

[25:47] decision

[25:53] number four on our new business is the

[25:55] elmwood street driving field

[25:57] council is

[25:59] aware

[26:00] that we have had ongoing problems at the

[26:03] school driveway

[26:06] that have gotten worse as the school has

[26:10] increased the

[26:12] size of the parking lot

[26:14] and

[26:16] [Music]

[26:17] the distribution the storm water

[26:19] distribution system is incapable of

[26:21] handling

[26:22] that volume of water when we have a

[26:25] severe rain or weather condition

[26:33] it's been very difficult but companies

[26:36] are so busy and they lack the manpower

[26:39] that it's not like it was four years

[26:41] like last time we did this was probably

[26:43] six years ago we hired a company and

[26:45] came out and did it now

[26:48] it's very difficult and we've done

[26:51] irwin our deepw manager was able to get

[26:54] the company that he works for to provide

[26:56] an estimate

[26:58] um

[26:59] or a quote i should say

[27:01] um

[27:03] but it was actually quite a staggering

[27:05] amount

[27:07] it's 38

[27:08] 980

[27:10] to put in 500 feet of underground

[27:13] um six inch drain pipe which is a good

[27:16] size pipe and it takes

[27:19] some pretty specialized equipment to do

[27:21] that

[27:22] um i have tried and tried to find

[27:25] another company that was willing to bid

[27:27] and they're all

[27:29] busy right now

[27:31] which would kind of explain why

[27:34] the cost would be higher it's a

[27:36] relatively smaller job they've all got

[27:38] bigger jobs

[27:39] etc

[27:41] so i

[27:44] once we get into the freezing season as

[27:46] long as those catch basins are empty

[27:49] we're not going to have to worry about

[27:51] roads and the curbs getting broken up

[27:54] but when we get to spring and there's

[27:56] thaws and freezing

[28:00] it's going to be real problematic

[28:03] don has in the past

[28:05] uh

[28:06] pumped it regularly i mean every time

[28:09] we pumped it several times just left

[28:11] this past fall

[28:14] and um i'm running we've been also

[28:16] pumping another situation down on

[28:18] division street forest which i will get

[28:20] into in my report

[28:23] but

[28:23] i i can't recommend to the council that we

[28:29] approved this quote

[28:32] and i haven't even spoken with judy

[28:33] about how we would pay for it

[28:36] um is this worth approaching

[28:39] superintendents

[28:40] yeah this is because it's showing them

[28:42] what the problem has caused

[28:45] well unfortunately i was informed like

[28:47] the superintendent uh

[28:51] the one that i knew is gone

[28:54] from

[28:56] at least that's what i was told

[28:59] so no i have not been able to get in

[29:01] touch

[29:02] uh

[29:04] with the right person at the school but

[29:06] that is on my agenda

[29:08] whether they're going to willingly

[29:11] participate

[29:12] is up for grabs i don't know i think

[29:15] they should they have a 12 inch drain

[29:18] pipe flowing into the village drains

[29:20] catch basin and we only have a six

[29:25] to seven inch relief pipe out of that

[29:27] catch basin so that water's got nowhere

[29:30] to go but

[29:31] up through the grates and out onto the

[29:33] road

[29:35] i think they have 30 000 gallons

[29:37] underneath the parking lot they have

[29:39] three catch basins that

[29:41] fill up and then drain into the

[29:44] village system so it's a lot of water

[29:49] but

[29:50] i think we're going to be safe

[29:53] for the immediate

[29:55] month or two but with the cold weather

[29:58] coming out

[29:59] but it will be

[30:01] we will need to resolve it by spreading

[30:02] we need to have something i'm informed

[30:05] that they can do the underground work

[30:08] in the one that's when the ground is

[30:10] frozen

[30:12] so

[30:13] if push comes to shove

[30:15] we may have to explore that possibility

[30:20] um

[30:24] i'm just curious you know they used to

[30:26] clean those ditches out

[30:28] because i'm assuming that's where the

[30:30] water goes

[30:31] they haven't been cleaned out in years

[30:34] which

[30:49] would have um also clean theirs which

[30:51] probably won't happen

[30:53] but

[30:54] don tells me that

[30:56] at one time

[30:57] there was a drain

[30:59] this flooding has been going on

[31:01] for

[31:02] 30 years

[31:04] at that location

[31:06] it was never like it is now though

[31:09] um

[31:10] and that there was

[31:11] at one time a drain

[31:14] that ran a drain tile that ran

[31:16] south probably went to the ditch one of

[31:19] the ditches on the property this uh

[31:22] church property that drains to

[31:26] the leonard drain

[31:27] however that

[31:30] may or may not exist and it may or may

[31:32] and we can't access it anyways because

[31:35] we don't have an easement

[31:37] or a right to use some of that property

[31:40] we i could find no record of it um

[31:44] that we that we have a right

[31:46] that we haven't drained there so

[31:48] our drains primarily exist on the

[31:52] right-of-ways for the roads

[31:54] and for and on the county uh

[31:58] easements for drains so

[32:02] we're kind of stuck

[32:05] uh

[32:06] trying to deal with what we have

[32:09] with what we

[32:11] with the property right-of-ways

[32:17] um if they did that enlarging of their

[32:20] parking lot and its government property

[32:22] why were they allowed to

[32:24] continue with that without

[32:26] planning for the extra water that and all the catchments that's an

[32:31] excellent point and the answer is

[32:34] state of michigan does not require

[32:37] schools to file planning or zoning

[32:41] permissions

[32:43] from the state building

[32:47] code

[32:48] people i'm not sure

[32:51] it's licensing and regulation

[32:56] do it for them

[32:57] so they don't have they don't get local

[33:00] approval and honestly

[33:03] i've never seen that

[33:05] there are there are no permits showing

[33:07] that they ever contacted the village

[33:10] about dumping into the drains i was able

[33:13] to find paperwork for

[33:15] cooper standard

[33:18] that they notified us that they wanted

[33:21] to use

[33:22] one of the drains but school has nothing

[33:25] in record

[33:27] so the water really has nowhere to go it

[33:29] just has to sit and be absorbed into the

[33:32] ground well it goes into a catch basin

[33:35] that which is a drain you know because

[33:38] it has a grated top

[33:40] um

[33:41] but those aren't very big aren't they no

[33:45] probably well they're basically to allow

[33:48] water to enter the drain system and then

[33:50] the drain pipe's carried away the

[33:52] condition down there is is that there's

[33:55] a six or seven inch drain pipe

[33:57] that goes to the

[33:59] west

[34:01] and it's either

[34:02] slow or clogged

[34:05] or crushed

[34:06] most likely crushed because a lot of the

[34:08] tiles are

[34:09] clay tiles from long ago

[34:12] so

[34:14] the ant the answer

[34:16] to eliminate this is to use plastic pipe

[34:19] and run it to the east

[34:21] on our right away

[34:22] and dump it into the same catch basin

[34:25] that drains the road

[34:27] further east

[34:29] but it would be we would put a catch

[34:31] basin on the south side or the north

[34:33] side of the road

[34:35] because there is already a catch basin

[34:37] on the south side it runs to the north

[34:40] so we we would utilize that right away

[34:43] to dump this water

[34:46] but it is a 500 foot run

[34:48] it would be fairly deep

[34:51] because

[34:52] um

[34:54] of the fall needed to go that far

[34:57] six inches

[34:59] was expensive even bigger pipe is even

[35:02] more expensive so

[35:05] if it would be kind of

[35:07] the volume of water that we have to deal

[35:09] with

[35:11] merits a six inch pipe four inch pipe is

[35:13] like

[35:14] pushing it 500 feet through a straw it's

[35:17] not going to drain

[35:18] fast at all so for the difference in

[35:21] cost

[35:22] that would be the recommendation but

[35:25] does that answer your question well

[35:27] there's no chance to clean out the

[35:30] yeah we have we've we've always jetted

[35:33] those

[35:34] um

[35:35] in the past and cleaned out the catch

[35:37] basins and we the problems always

[35:39] existed the problem now is that

[35:42] they've gone to a

[35:44] much more

[35:45] comprehensive system

[35:48] that when it lets loose when it opens

[35:50] catch basins

[35:52] that they have on the property fill up

[35:55] they fill up and dump all at once into

[35:58] our system and it just can't handle it

[36:01] yeah if you go down there they'll be

[36:05] four five six inches of standing water

[36:08] over the top of the sidewalk

[36:10] i bring my boys don't learn to play in

[36:11] it

[36:14] the cars the cars have to drive through

[36:16] four inches away it was appreciated it

[36:19] was questionable to drive through it

[36:20] with a mini man

[36:21] on the way to the school of this whole

[36:23] time

[36:24] between

[36:31] but it does it just takes a few days and

[36:33] it's gone yes

[36:37] depending on how long it's been raining

[36:39] and stuff like that most of the time don

[36:41] is going to pump it and then it will

[36:44] where does he pump it to to the east

[36:46] which is where this 500 feet would end

[36:50] essentially

[36:51] don puts out about almost 300 feet of

[36:54] pipe because that gets him over the rise

[36:58] of the on the edge of the road and then

[37:00] the water flows to the east well what

[37:02] about

[37:02] ditches along the side of the road

[37:04] instead and with cookberry culpr does

[37:06] that cost as much

[37:09] donor

[37:10] says that it costs it would cost more to

[37:13] do an open cut

[37:15] excavation more equipment and more

[37:17] people

[37:18] in this particular case

[37:21] but

[37:22] i can certainly get quotes um

[37:25] it seems like 38 000 is a lot of money

[37:28] for being an administration

[37:30] we've done it twice in my experience on

[37:33] the council

[37:35] one time

[37:36] it was along division street

[37:39] um

[37:41] south of on the

[37:43] division street

[37:45] east of forest

[37:47] and then another time was on ford street

[37:50] itself

[37:51] down by uh going towards bayesa

[37:55] and it was a stretch there i think it

[37:57] was uh

[37:59] it was either four or six hundred feet

[38:01] here you remember

[38:03] and it was it was in the double barely

[38:06] into the double digits for both of them

[38:09] um we did an open cut repair over here

[38:11] on whitehead street two years ago

[38:14] and it was it was over fourteen thousand

[38:17] and it wasn't 500 feet

[38:19] i mean it just

[38:21] it's expensive it just gets it we didn't plan on being 14 000

[38:27] but one thing leads to another with

[38:30] those kind of jobs and so we ended up

[38:32] having to have a

[38:34] vacuum truck come out

[38:36] had to remove and replace culverts

[38:42] this project if we if we do have to pay

[38:46] close to what we're talking about here

[38:49] then we'll pretty much break our boat

[38:51] we'll break

[38:52] we won't have any reserves

[38:55] or not enough that would be of practical

[38:57] use

[39:00] i guess my question is i don't see it

[39:02] out here what is the validity of this

[39:04] quote is it a 30-day quote

[39:09] and then i guess what would be the time

[39:11] frame to do it

[39:22] gave me the impression most of these

[39:24] quotes are good for 30 days

[39:26] um he did he did indicate that uh

[39:29] he he works for this company so that's

[39:33] just so that's disclosed

[39:35] and he said that uh

[39:39] that this is a

[39:41] he was told by the company that they had

[39:45] purchased pipe and accessories

[39:49] earlier in the year

[39:50] in quantities greater than they thought

[39:52] they would need because they saw the

[39:54] shortages and manufacturing that were

[39:57] causing delays for getting stuff so

[39:59] he said they do have the the proper

[40:02] materials

[40:03] it's just a matter of if we want to pay

[40:05] the price

[40:06] so

[40:09] one more question

[40:10] yes um

[40:12] if you were to let the quote laughs

[40:15] would and you had nothing to lose

[40:18] could you say

[40:20] can you do this job to the company will

[40:23] you that can will you do this job for

[40:26] say 15 000

[40:28] and like a counter offer

[40:30] um

[40:32] at this point until i have another quote

[40:35] from another

[40:36] company i i'm not comfortable doing that

[40:39] because i can't move all somebody if i don't

[40:43] know

[40:44] what it would actually cost i don't

[40:46] think anybody is going to do it for 15

[40:48] 000 to be honest based on our past

[40:50] experience i was thinking at the top end

[40:53] of the 30 000

[40:55] for this job

[40:56] that's why i was it really

[40:58] set me back on my heels when i saw

[41:01] you know

[41:03] that amount

[41:04] how much is it costing the village to

[41:06] help it

[41:08] well it's not so much how much it costs

[41:11] trying to have someone available to do

[41:13] it i've done it a couple times

[41:15] down has done it regularly

[41:22] well

[41:23] i don't think they can take enough way

[41:25] into trouble

[41:26] you have to it's so much water

[41:29] i think it's i think there's at least 30

[41:31] 000 gallons on school property

[41:35] the size of their catchments

[41:38] when they start draining i don't know

[41:40] but even if it's 50

[41:43] um

[41:45] there's probably some kind of graduated

[41:47] drainage thing where

[41:48] the furthest the furthest away drains

[41:51] into the next one into the next one you

[41:53] know something like that so the repaving of

[41:58] elmwood didn't consider that drain when

[42:00] it's rebated was done

[42:03] no

[42:03] i don't even know if we were aware of

[42:05] the size of that train

[42:08] that the school put in

[42:10] i don't know when it was put in i don't

[42:12] know if it was done

[42:13] it wasn't done in this

[42:15] last summer's project but it was done

[42:18] in a previous project

[42:20] um

[42:23] yeah that's all input

[42:27] with the new money coming for

[42:28] infrastructure

[42:30] in the new bills that are passing would

[42:33] that be like could you delay the

[42:35] decision it's all infrastructure money

[42:38] up here and um

[42:41] the village is slated to receive

[42:42] approximately 40 000

[42:45] of which will get 20 000

[42:48] one year

[42:49] first year and then 20 000 seconds

[42:53] so if we had to revoke half this

[43:11] yeah conceivably yes but

[43:13] they've been taught they've been saying

[43:14] for two months now that the money is

[43:16] about to be distributed and it has yet

[43:18] to be distributed so

[43:21] do we have any other perspective quotes

[43:23] and you said you've been tracking yeah

[43:25] i asked call calls underground is a

[43:30] locally owned company

[43:32] and

[43:33] they did some they did all the consumers

[43:35] work here in anson township

[43:38] so i've asked the township supervisor if

[43:40] you can get me in touch with them

[43:44] but i've been gone for a little over a

[43:46] week and

[43:47] i just haven't had time to follow

[43:52] up guess my recommendation or my thought

[43:56] process right now is we

[43:59] table a decision

[44:03] i think we need to keep our reserves

[44:05] where they are

[44:07] we've already spent a lot this year

[44:11] thanks you saved me a big headache

[44:14] well

[44:16] don't worry next week we're gonna have a

[44:17] few conversations

[44:21] okay

[44:23] i guess um

[44:28] i'm not sure if you want how do you do

[44:30] this uh

[44:31] i'd like to make a motion to take no

[44:33] action on

[44:47] sweat

[44:50] um any questions on the motion

[44:53] let me still get post though

[44:56] i will as soon as i can as soon as i get

[44:58] the deal

[45:00] i actually

[45:01] didn't send this one to you right away

[45:03] because i

[45:04] tried to find a company that gave me

[45:06] another quote

[45:08] and

[45:09] you know

[45:10] it was hard to keep this one and be

[45:11] honest it took a couple weeks before

[45:14] they sent their

[45:16] representative about to look at it

[45:19] um

[45:19] okay

[45:20] uh all in favor of the motion is uh

[45:23] take no action at this time

[45:25] on the uh elmwood street train repairs

[45:28] please say hi

[45:29] host we say no

[45:33] okay

[45:35] at this time i want to officially

[45:38] inform the village and council that

[45:42] the estate of mrs virginia smith

[45:47] on behalf of

[45:49] a

[45:49] former village resident sherry arsenault

[45:54] delivered a check in the amount of 221

[45:58] 900

[45:59] to the village

[46:00] for use in the

[46:03] nature park and related

[46:06] nate park and recreation related

[46:09] expenses

[46:11] they gave us some

[46:13] they gave us a list of

[46:16] desired

[46:17] uh outcomes

[46:19] for the money

[46:21] one of the

[46:22] primary ones being a remembrance

[46:24] of sherry

[46:26] and possibly her mother

[46:29] for having made the donation have some

[46:31] type of

[46:33] maybe a boulder with a swag or whatever

[46:36] at the at the nature park

[46:38] they also suggested crossing warnings

[46:42] sidewalks

[46:44] of serving the park so

[46:49] it opens up a world of improvements

[46:54] for use they did say that they would

[46:57] like to see some of the money

[46:59] uh

[47:00] saved to generate funds to continue

[47:04] um

[47:05] having maintenance performed on the park

[47:09] the improvements are done so

[47:12] those are all things i think that we can

[47:15] accommodate

[47:17] pretty easily

[47:20] later tonight

[47:23] i'm going to ask the council uh for the

[47:25] approval of uh

[47:27] two new numbers on the park and

[47:28] recreation committee with the abs with

[47:31] shar sotheby

[47:32] we lost sheri and now shar southerly who

[47:34] was also a member and dan her husband

[47:37] was a member they're no longer

[47:40] so

[47:40] you have to find new volunteers so

[47:44] unfortunately doug and linda nowaker

[47:46] have volunteered to be on the committee

[47:48] so

[47:50] we appreciate that so but uh

[47:53] for now

[47:54] i'd like authorization to send a an

[47:57] official

[47:58] thank you

[47:59] and recognition for

[48:02] such a

[48:03] magnanimous donation

[48:05] to the village for

[48:07] that purpose

[48:10] trustee

[48:13] incentive by trustee clinton

[48:19] okay very

[48:20] questions on the motion to

[48:23] recognize and send a letter of

[48:25] appreciation

[48:26] to the

[48:27] estate of

[48:30] mrs virginia smith

[48:32] and liz sherry arsenault

[48:36] all in favor please say hi hi always

[48:39] please say no

[48:42] okay

[48:43] it was an interesting weekend because i

[48:46] received i met with the representatives

[48:48] on saturday

[48:49] received the check

[48:50] and then sunday

[48:53] i met with a

[48:55] running group called

[49:00] gold makers who had

[49:03] run out here on the pollyanne trail

[49:05] several times a year it's not a regular

[49:08] but they really were struck by the

[49:10] leonard mill

[49:12] and they wanted to see it

[49:14] they wanted to help so they made a

[49:16] donation of two thousand five hundred

[49:18] dollars and two cents earmarked for the

[49:21] money

[49:22] so it was a heck of a weekend for the

[49:25] village and for me

[49:27] so i'd also like to um

[49:30] officially recognize the donation and

[49:32] the appreciation of the government

[49:34] council

[49:36] so i'm looking for that

[49:38] action as well

[49:40] i'd like to make a motion to

[49:42] for the president to give recognition

[49:44] for the 2500 donation

[49:49] okay

[49:52] any question on the motion

[49:55] no but i do have a comment about

[50:11] okay motion carries

[50:13] okay cindy

[50:14] you have got to see the openings in the

[50:17] i believe you're asking for trouble i

[50:20] know i keep uh

[50:24] it'll get done this week okay i'm just

[50:26] concerned for sure i know kids

[50:28] especially because

[50:30] they're getting in there too

[50:32] it's a shared concern thank you okay um

[50:40] i'm not sure we have any action on the

[50:42] zoning ordinance amendment um

[50:45] were there any

[50:47] were they was there

[50:48] any recommendations

[50:52] was there any recommendation that the

[50:53] last that was that was just for the cba

[50:57] wasn't it

[50:58] no we we did the

[51:05] alcohol rizzo

[51:18] did the minutes come to us

[51:20] okay

[51:26] yes it was approved were there anything

[51:28] right yeah

[51:30] yes were there any conditions or changes

[51:32] made i don't know no conditions okay

[51:37] and we were in the middle of secretary

[51:38] changes that's probably what i did all

[51:40] right right right right

[51:42] he's not exactly we've distributed the

[51:44] minutes today

[51:45] okay

[51:46] i've been behind just like you okay so we do have something that

[51:51] okay the um

[51:54] the planning commission at its regular

[51:56] meeting

[51:57] in october

[51:59] reviewed our

[52:01] uh

[52:02] our alcohol

[52:04] related regulation change to the

[52:06] ordinance

[52:08] and held the public hearing

[52:11] and recommended that the

[52:13] amendment be adopted

[52:16] by the village council

[52:18] so that

[52:20] to refresh everybody's memory

[52:22] that

[52:23] action was basically

[52:25] to limit the number of

[52:28] liquor establishments to no more than

[52:30] four within the village of leonard that

[52:33] they would be located on the main

[52:35] streets of either forest or elmwood

[52:39] and that

[52:42] the

[52:46] oh let's see it seems to me was there

[52:48] one other thing

[52:50] that kind of stood out on there

[52:53] um

[52:54] and uh the owners could have more than

[52:56] one type of license

[52:58] you know it wouldn't be just one they

[53:00] could ever

[53:04] it would all be off-premises licenses

[53:06] but they could have a sunday liquor sale

[53:09] and they

[53:10] and a regular

[53:11] liquor

[53:13] permit and that

[53:15] we're not saying it can't have multiple

[53:17] it's just

[53:19] that would come as one so you're not

[53:21] talking bars you're talking no okay no

[53:24] off-premises consumption that's all the

[53:26] village allows

[53:28] [Music]

[53:30] okay

[53:31] so um what is the pleasure of the

[53:34] village council as far as the

[53:36] recommendation of the planning

[53:38] commission to adopt

[53:40] this and i'll make a motion for that the

[53:43] recommended

[53:45] ordinance updates changes

[53:48] a second two ordinance number 19.

[53:52] exactly

[53:55] so upon a motion by trustee swack in the

[53:57] second by trustee kennedy the village

[54:00] council formally adopts the

[54:02] recommendations

[54:04] that were proposed

[54:06] in the public hearing held on

[54:10] for the 25th

[54:12] pardon for the 25th yeah october 25th

[54:20] and and

[54:21] approved and will amend the village

[54:23] ordinance

[54:25] zoning ordinance court accordingly

[54:32] good

[54:34] any questions on the motion

[54:41] mr kennedy yes

[54:43] mcdonald yes this is matt

[54:46] yes

[54:50] all right um

[54:52] we'll thank the planning commission

[54:54] for your efforts on

[54:56] that regard

[54:59] okay

[55:00] um

[55:03] with the absence of trustees southerly

[55:07] we have one open

[55:10] position

[55:12] where the village needs a representative

[55:14] and that would be on the oxford ask

[55:16] addison cable commission

[55:18] um

[55:20] i would i had hoped that mr hawkins

[55:23] would be here tonight

[55:24] but i would like to

[55:29] ask the council to

[55:32] appoint him to that

[55:35] organization

[55:36] and if he's unable to do it through the

[55:39] schedule or whatever

[55:41] um i will just have to revisit it at

[55:44] that time

[55:46] so is there a motion then to appoint

[55:50] mr hawkins to the oxford addison cable

[55:53] commission i'd like to make a motion to

[55:55] appoint john hopkins to the oxford

[55:59] community television committee

[56:05] okay so upon a motion by trustee kennedy

[56:07] and second by trustee swack

[56:09] john trustee john hawkins

[56:12] is appointed as the village

[56:14] representative to the oxford addison

[56:16] cable commission

[56:18] any question on the motion

[56:20] all in favor of the motion please say

[56:22] aye

[56:23] i opposed please say no

[56:26] okay the motion

[56:29] very carrier

[56:31] okay uh number nine

[56:33] is a revisit uh this is in regards to

[56:36] the tree trimming

[56:37] uh

[56:38] that we approved two months ago

[56:41] um

[56:42] until we get the approval from the

[56:44] county

[56:46] uh

[56:47] of the reallocation of monies

[56:49] we haven't been able to go forward my

[56:51] concern is is that

[56:53] um

[56:56] one or both of the

[56:58] companies will say i don't they don't

[57:00] want to do it for that price or whatever

[57:03] so i would like to have authorization

[57:06] that if needed i can use i can get

[57:08] another company if they will

[57:11] meet you know that

[57:13] criteria for cost

[57:15] and the parameters for removal

[57:18] chipping etc cutting into firewood

[57:20] lights

[57:21] um

[57:23] that i can go ahead and get that done um

[57:28] don't have to but i i'd really like

[57:31] i really expect to get approval this

[57:33] month i just think it all happens

[57:36] so yeah i'd like a motion to authorize

[57:38] an alternative source one thing for that

[57:41] too is that uh ryan j waldo had cut

[57:44] trees down to my house full disclosure

[57:46] and he did a good job at a good price so

[57:50] it made me worthwhile to request him as

[57:53] well to see

[57:55] if i have to find an alternate i would

[57:57] contact him uh the only parameter that

[58:00] i'm going to be looking at is

[58:02] getting both jobs done within

[58:04] the amounts that that were stipulated

[58:08] sure

[58:09] okay

[58:10] so i would make a motion to allow

[58:12] president to

[58:13] obtain up

[58:16] backup quotes

[58:17] if needed

[58:18] well i'm looking for authorization to go

[58:20] ahead and

[58:21] authorize

[58:23] the top drives to work to a third party

[58:25] contractor if needed as long as it fits

[58:28] perfectly

[58:33] [Music]

[58:37] is that

[58:38] uh trustee kennedy

[58:39] making this ocean

[58:48] okay so we have a motion

[58:50] um

[58:52] to provide uh authorize the president

[58:56] to

[58:57] hire a

[58:58] third party contractor

[59:00] if either of the previous

[59:02] previously contacted parties no longer

[59:05] want to do the job

[59:09] any questions

[59:11] okay can we have a roll call on that

[59:13] please

[59:14] [Music]

[59:15] president mcdonough yes

[59:17] mrs swag yes mr kennedy yes

[59:20] okay thank you i appreciate that

[59:23] i know

[59:25] the black green applicant is

[59:28] really anxious to get the trees down so

[59:30] i

[59:37] right right exactly

[59:40] um

[59:42] i number 10

[59:44] i

[59:45] had hoped or suggested that maybe the

[59:47] december meeting we would not have to

[59:49] hold it

[59:50] um

[59:52] what are the thoughts of the council

[59:57] on that

[59:59] the only thing if we had something come

[1:00:01] up

[1:00:02] we could still have it

[1:00:06] the the only thing i have

[1:00:09] potentially

[1:00:12] would be the drains that the drain quotes if we got something

[1:00:17] that

[1:00:18] was reasonable you could

[1:00:20] possibly need that but

[1:00:22] um

[1:00:25] if the council wants we can just keep it

[1:00:27] on the calendar and cancel it later i

[1:00:29] suppose or

[1:00:32] do it now

[1:00:34] it's gonna have a cancel by date or

[1:00:35] something like that

[1:00:37] well because

[1:00:39] if we're going to do it let's cancel it

[1:00:41] now so i mean i

[1:00:44] the only question that i would have

[1:00:45] currently i don't know if there's

[1:00:47] anything we can do about it

[1:00:49] is have we had the roofs done either dpw

[1:00:52] or a rolling wall

[1:00:54] yeah that was in my report i'm sure

[1:00:56] unfortunately

[1:00:58] yeah no the roofs are complete okay yeah

[1:01:00] so

[1:01:01] um

[1:01:04] okay

[1:01:06] well

[1:01:07] unless there's a motion of to

[1:01:11] cancel the meeting of this

[1:01:13] procedure i'd like to make a motion to

[1:01:15] cancel at the center of the meeting

[1:01:20] okay there's a motion on the floor

[1:01:22] proposed by trustee kennedy seconded by

[1:01:24] trustee sweat cancel the december

[1:01:27] evening

[1:01:28] of the bill of council there any

[1:01:30] questions on the motion

[1:01:31] [Music]

[1:01:33] hearing none

[1:01:34] all in favor of the motion to cancel the

[1:01:36] meeting in december please say i i

[1:01:39] opposed please say no

[1:01:42] okay that motion here

[1:01:44] my final

[1:01:45] part of a new business

[1:01:47] is to ask the council's approval of my

[1:01:50] recommendation to appoint

[1:01:53] doug moaker and linda nowaker as

[1:01:56] park and recreation committee members

[1:01:59] for the rules of leonard

[1:02:03] you could make a motion to appoint

[1:02:05] neutral science

[1:02:07] parks and rec appointees

[1:02:08] well second

[1:02:12] i third

[1:02:14] thank you okay uh most under the floor

[1:02:16] to a point

[1:02:18] um mr douglas here nice and slender

[1:02:22] department recreation

[1:02:24] all in favor of the motion please say

[1:02:26] aye

[1:02:28] opposed to say no

[1:02:31] okay so the motion is approved thank you

[1:02:33] doug thank linda

[1:02:35] appreciate it

[1:02:38] all right full business i have none

[1:02:41] um dpw update uh we did receive the work

[1:02:44] platform

[1:02:45] um for the tractor for the dpw

[1:02:49] but we have not yet received the tractor

[1:02:51] forks i'm

[1:02:52] hoping that

[1:02:54] the last notice i got was they were

[1:02:55] going to be to us or shipped on the 19th

[1:02:59] which would be friday of this week um

[1:03:02] whether they'll come then or not i can't

[1:03:04] say but until they come the village

[1:03:06] won't be doing any aerial work

[1:03:10] without them so

[1:03:12] it may mean a delay to the decorations

[1:03:15] going up

[1:03:16] and some other

[1:03:18] work that

[1:03:21] i've been requested to do

[1:03:24] [Music]

[1:03:26] so that was informational and then

[1:03:29] as i indicated earlier division stream

[1:03:31] there's a drain blockage

[1:03:34] where uh

[1:03:35] the water is not flowing the water on

[1:03:38] division streaming drains flows to

[1:03:41] forestry

[1:03:43] on this on the north side of division

[1:03:45] water is flowing normally and going into

[1:03:48] the drain

[1:03:50] that goes uh to the county drain

[1:03:54] on the

[1:03:56] i gotta get this right on the south side

[1:03:59] the catch basin

[1:04:00] there

[1:04:01] is

[1:04:02] not draining to the county drain or to

[1:04:04] the main drain

[1:04:06] and it is backing up and water level is

[1:04:08] rising and has flooded the

[1:04:11] stinson industries there

[1:04:13] so i've pumped down i've pumped it out

[1:04:16] twice myself and don has pumped that

[1:04:18] catch base and we just pump it across

[1:04:20] the street

[1:04:21] or out to the front

[1:04:23] to another catch basin that's on the

[1:04:25] main drain

[1:04:26] but

[1:04:29] the owner is quite his new owner and

[1:04:30] he's quite concerned about you know

[1:04:32] safety etc

[1:04:34] so

[1:04:36] don is trying to arrange for a vacuum

[1:04:38] truck to come out so we can ascertain

[1:04:40] whether we've got a broken tile under

[1:04:42] the road because the

[1:04:44] tile would run from the south to the

[1:04:47] north

[1:04:48] and then into the

[1:04:51] main collector

[1:04:53] on forestry

[1:04:55] so

[1:04:55] don had hoped that if we did hire a contractor

[1:05:02] if we superior like anybody that does

[1:05:04] underground they have to have a vacuum

[1:05:06] truck

[1:05:07] to

[1:05:08] for them to do that so he was hoping to

[1:05:10] grab it

[1:05:11] and do that but there's a chance he

[1:05:13] won't

[1:05:14] the problem is is he the last fold he

[1:05:16] got was for

[1:05:17] between 35 and 4 000

[1:05:20] for eight hours eight hour day

[1:05:23] for a vacuum truck

[1:05:25] we paid

[1:05:26] 2200

[1:05:28] four years ago three three years ago

[1:05:30] when we had to have one out for that

[1:05:32] dream project on whitehead street

[1:05:35] so it's very expensive

[1:05:37] so

[1:05:38] i may yet do that and i guess i would

[1:05:41] like council authorization

[1:05:43] to

[1:05:44] expand the

[1:05:47] [Music]

[1:05:49] i'm going to say ask i'm going to ask

[1:05:50] for approval up to 4 500

[1:05:53] um if it comes to that um

[1:05:57] and that means and that may not fix it depends on what's wrong if it's a broken tile we'll

[1:06:03] have to have an excavator come in

[1:06:05] and clean it up if it's a

[1:06:09] fractured tile there are companies that

[1:06:11] go in and look like an inside sleeve

[1:06:14] and almost bubble up and we'll

[1:06:16] restructure the pipes yeah

[1:06:18] it's the same type of operation we're talking

[1:06:21] about where they

[1:06:23] feed them

[1:06:25] so yeah but

[1:06:28] how do they bring the camera in are they

[1:06:45] where you're trying to get to

[1:06:47] sure

[1:06:48] so i'd like to make a motion to prove up

[1:06:50] to 4500 for

[1:06:53] potential repair inspection of the

[1:06:56] division during

[1:06:58] also

[1:07:01] okay there's a motion by trustee kennedy

[1:07:03] seconded by trustee swag

[1:07:05] to authorize up to 4 500

[1:07:08] for the inspection and repair of

[1:07:11] the division

[1:07:12] street

[1:07:14] ford street intersection

[1:07:19] any question on the motion

[1:07:21] hearing none uh do we have a roll call

[1:07:24] please

[1:07:25] mr kennedy yes mrs yes president

[1:07:28] mcdonough yes

[1:07:33] okay thank you for that

[1:07:38] for the president's report

[1:07:44] we had no lawyer requests

[1:07:46] regarding ordinance enforcement

[1:07:49] village trustees received a confidential

[1:07:52] letter from the village attorney

[1:07:55] with the options the

[1:07:57] appropriate options for how to treat

[1:08:00] this situation

[1:08:02] so

[1:08:05] we can discuss that

[1:08:07] now or wait

[1:08:09] uh

[1:08:10] to our next meeting

[1:08:12] there's they have secured the structure

[1:08:14] somebody can

[1:08:17] repair the door somebody else has an

[1:08:19] electricity

[1:08:21] somebody from outside the village came

[1:08:23] and did it because i

[1:08:26] as i saw them they were leaving

[1:08:28] i saw the guy get in his truck and leave

[1:08:30] because i was going

[1:08:33] are we discussing the yellow house yeah

[1:08:35] 42.85 i'm sorry

[1:08:39] yeah

[1:08:40] so um

[1:08:42] based on the letter

[1:08:44] nothing's going to happen right away

[1:08:46] regardless

[1:08:47] so

[1:08:48] i prove maybe that's something that we

[1:08:50] can discuss at our next meeting was this

[1:08:53] the first time that somebody outside the

[1:08:54] village has actually touched the house

[1:08:56] no the last time we contacted the

[1:08:58] attorney to contact the company which

[1:09:01] was

[1:09:02] before we six months ago when we

[1:09:15] and he said that they had called him and

[1:09:17] asked him to come out and seal it up so

[1:09:21] it didn't last long they kicked that

[1:09:24] open within what we did

[1:09:27] but anyway if it is if you do see it

[1:09:30] open contact me perhaps whoever comes

[1:09:32] well i'm actually just wondering since

[1:09:36] if they're

[1:09:38] is there interest from them now that

[1:09:39] they might actually keep the structure

[1:09:41] in me

[1:09:42] no no they have not responded to me

[1:09:45] and they just go straight to some

[1:09:49] that way they i guess they don't have to

[1:09:51] acknowledge

[1:09:52] or have any conversation with us so they

[1:09:54] have all the help of the world and they

[1:09:55] still choose to go around right and

[1:09:58] as long as it's secure

[1:10:00] now as i think that attorney indicated

[1:10:03] we could board it up i mean we could

[1:10:06] i'm not sure that's really what we want

[1:10:08] to do

[1:10:10] but we could do that and put in you know

[1:10:13] place an additional lien on the property

[1:10:17] you know for doing that

[1:10:19] i guess this one's secure

[1:10:21] the window's already broken the doors so

[1:10:24] far the door has been the only thing

[1:10:26] that's been it's been kicked and

[1:10:28] it's in rough shape

[1:10:33] the taxes have not been paid

[1:10:36] um so they would be up in 2023 they

[1:10:39] could go

[1:10:40] to public sale

[1:10:42] in which case the village would have

[1:10:45] first or

[1:10:46] possibly second bid

[1:10:48] if the state doesn't want the property i

[1:10:51] think that's unlikely

[1:10:53] that we could purchase it for back taxes

[1:10:56] and then do as we wish

[1:11:00] i'm not sure that's a great idea either

[1:11:02] because we have to

[1:11:04] tear it down

[1:11:07] for something so

[1:11:09] it's something takes care of

[1:11:17] um we had a work a community person that

[1:11:20] had a lot of community service hours

[1:11:22] and they cut grass throughout the

[1:11:24] village this past summer that's not

[1:11:26] going to last forever no no next year it

[1:11:29] will be another problem yeah so

[1:11:32] yeah we're trying to find a permanent

[1:11:34] answer but

[1:11:36] anyways

[1:11:37] unless unless the council wants to take

[1:11:39] action

[1:11:41] i'm going to move on

[1:11:43] um

[1:11:45] the roofs were finished a week ago or

[1:11:50] actually last week i think we'll think

[1:11:51] about

[1:11:52] lori heard them out there working um

[1:11:54] they didn't get all the work

[1:11:55] accomplished we did receive an invoice

[1:11:57] last friday

[1:11:59] the work is done it looks good

[1:12:02] um

[1:12:03] it's definitely dry in dpw now compared

[1:12:06] to

[1:12:07] what it was so it looks to work

[1:12:10] so it worked pretty good um the crack

[1:12:12] ceiling is done on west elmwood

[1:12:16] they got all of

[1:12:18] south forest

[1:12:19] and part of north

[1:12:21] forest as well

[1:12:24] so that's been taking care of the roland

[1:12:27] hall heat vents for the best of you are

[1:12:30] in

[1:12:31] they recommended that we probably should

[1:12:33] get a damper

[1:12:34] for our for for

[1:12:37] the final run here

[1:12:39] of our

[1:12:41] so that there would be some back

[1:12:42] pressure

[1:12:43] and it might divert more air into the vestibule

[1:12:49] but other that wasn't part of the

[1:12:50] original proposal so

[1:12:53] but i i basically talked to the guy when

[1:12:55] i when he got done and there wasn't much

[1:12:57] air you could tell it was a little air

[1:13:00] coming out but when you look at they didn't put any registers on these

[1:13:05] so there's no restriction

[1:13:07] on the

[1:13:08] heat pipes so the heat that comes in is

[1:13:10] just

[1:13:11] it almost here

[1:13:12] and then here

[1:13:13] yeah

[1:13:15] so anyway but

[1:13:19] i think it made a difference when i came

[1:13:20] in just uh today to open up the hall

[1:13:23] it wasn't as freezing cold as as it

[1:13:26] usually is hopefully it's doing some

[1:13:29] good

[1:13:30] um

[1:13:31] you know that door

[1:13:34] doesn't really still tight either is

[1:13:36] there anything this door if you look at

[1:13:38] the door there's a they have the door

[1:13:44] some seals or yeah the outer door yeah

[1:13:49] if we can put seal strips on it or

[1:13:50] something

[1:13:52] um

[1:13:56] okay

[1:13:58] i'll take a look at it

[1:14:00] and then um

[1:14:02] as far as the 2022

[1:14:05] uh

[1:14:06] 2023 budget

[1:14:09] um

[1:14:10] it's going to be pretty much what we've

[1:14:12] seen in the past we won't

[1:14:15] be making any i don't plan on any cat

[1:14:17] large capital expenditures

[1:14:19] i do think that we need to look at

[1:14:22] a way to generate some interest by

[1:14:25] people to

[1:14:26] become involved in the village

[1:14:29] and so maybe the planning commission

[1:14:32] and

[1:14:33] increases in the amounts that we pay for

[1:14:36] per meeting is you know something that

[1:14:38] might

[1:14:40] be more of an incentive

[1:14:43] and the same might be said that can be

[1:14:45] said for

[1:14:46] at least

[1:14:48] the clerk and the treasurer's positions

[1:14:51] because

[1:14:55] we're all not going to be here forever

[1:14:57] so

[1:14:59] not many people have shown much interest

[1:15:01] in being on the console

[1:15:05] so anyway it's just something that i

[1:15:07] think i knew about

[1:15:08] and we're also talking about jennifer

[1:15:10] raynerdale's not here but you know we're

[1:15:12] talking about a custodial

[1:15:15] company rather than

[1:15:17] paying someone to do it it's going to be

[1:15:20] more expensive

[1:15:21] there's a number of items

[1:15:25] and i

[1:15:26] have also approached the water resources

[1:15:29] commission

[1:15:30] about

[1:15:30] an agreement

[1:15:32] for them to like help us with our

[1:15:34] drainage system again and have an annual

[1:15:37] clean out where they would come out

[1:15:39] clean out all the catch bases

[1:15:42] jet rod

[1:15:44] trouble areas if we know of any

[1:15:46] things like that

[1:15:48] um i haven't gotten numbers back from

[1:15:50] them yet but i have a request

[1:15:53] so i will bring that to the council

[1:15:57] once i have the numbers

[1:15:59] i i went ahead and did it because i

[1:16:01] didn't feel like it was something that

[1:16:04] necessarily needed your authorization

[1:16:06] if it works out great if it doesn't work

[1:16:08] out

[1:16:10] our dpw's still have to maintain

[1:16:14] okay

[1:16:15] moving on into the trustee committee

[1:16:17] reports

[1:16:19] uh i don't think there's anything for

[1:16:21] the summer festival committee that's

[1:16:24] pretty much stable

[1:16:25] cable commission

[1:16:28] i think they've had a meeting i know

[1:16:30] they called and asked if we had

[1:16:31] appointed someone yet i told them no

[1:16:34] that i expected we would this meeting

[1:16:38] decorated committee

[1:16:40] i got a

[1:16:42] communication from decorating today

[1:16:46] which i will

[1:16:49] briefly

[1:16:50] summarize

[1:16:51] um

[1:16:53] that regarding the christmas event

[1:16:55] on december 3rd

[1:16:57] the road will close at 5 pm until 9 30.

[1:17:02] the vendors there are several vendors

[1:17:05] 10 actually that will be start setting

[1:17:07] up at 5 30.

[1:17:09] um the event runs

[1:17:11] the event itself runs from 6 30 to 9.

[1:17:14] there

[1:17:15] will be some burn barrels for warmth

[1:17:18] salmon will be there

[1:17:20] and they'll have a bench in front of the

[1:17:22] tree outside for him to see children

[1:17:26] gingerbread house competition is still

[1:17:29] on there are some information and

[1:17:31] applications up here if anybody wants to

[1:17:35] participate

[1:17:38] they can be dropped off

[1:17:41] or set up on on thursday the voting goes

[1:17:44] from 6 30 to 8 30 that night and the

[1:17:47] tree lighting is at 7 pm

[1:17:51] middle school orchestra will be there

[1:17:54] from 6 30 until 7 here in the hall

[1:17:57] and there's a dj

[1:18:00] band going to

[1:18:02] be playing outside

[1:18:03] from seven until eight

[1:18:06] the ginger

[1:18:08] registration is open for the gingerbread

[1:18:12] house contest

[1:18:13] until

[1:18:14] november 20th

[1:18:21] for the villages part

[1:18:22] they're the decorating committee's

[1:18:24] asking for the banners and snowflakes to

[1:18:26] be up on the poles

[1:18:30] [Music]

[1:18:31] they want the star up this year instead

[1:18:33] of the wreath on roland hall

[1:18:36] it was re-strung with lights by the roe

[1:18:38] family so we want to thank them for

[1:18:40] their work they're volunteering to do

[1:18:42] that

[1:18:45] we do need

[1:18:47] two benches that they've put out to be

[1:18:49] secure to the cement

[1:18:51] and uh

[1:18:56] i guess that's about it so got plenty to

[1:18:59] do between now and the christmas

[1:19:01] for sure

[1:19:02] um

[1:19:05] planning

[1:19:06] commission we're having our meeting

[1:19:08] thursday oh you are okay yeah we're

[1:19:11] going to uh

[1:19:12] review

[1:19:14] some bylaw changes and

[1:19:17] finalize

[1:19:19] and submit our

[1:19:21] sidewalk

[1:19:22] plan for the next 10 years great

[1:19:26] i don't know if that will affect your

[1:19:28] december meeting or not if you want to

[1:19:31] have it considered for budget for

[1:19:35] we'll probably we we

[1:19:38] started the entrance again

[1:19:42] january we get serious and try to adopt

[1:19:45] so many meetings be able to distribute

[1:19:49] it to the members

[1:19:51] before your meeting that would be great

[1:19:54] but should i give it to you first or

[1:19:56] distribute it myself to the

[1:19:58] uh

[1:20:00] council i think i think if you bring it

[1:20:02] to the village office and the clerk will

[1:20:06] distribute it that's something you don't

[1:20:08] want to do it electronically because

[1:20:10] it's electrical

[1:20:11] oh okay

[1:20:13] well then yeah

[1:20:26] i think the clerk will have to contact

[1:20:28] mr hawkins

[1:20:29] and get him sworn in and then also get

[1:20:32] his contact information which will

[1:20:34] include his emails so okay you can

[1:20:36] probably get that to me before my

[1:20:38] thursday sure

[1:20:40] okay

[1:20:42] i think that's all we have

[1:20:43] okay great thank you and we'd probably

[1:20:45] cancel our december meeting round two

[1:20:49] okay yeah you can decide if you're next

[1:20:51] week right

[1:20:52] now okay

[1:20:55] very good

[1:20:56] uh north oakland transportation authority

[1:21:00] of council will remember that

[1:21:03] nota had been talking about becoming an

[1:21:05] act 196 transportation authority

[1:21:09] we learned that will not

[1:21:13] give us any different status with the

[1:21:16] federal government

[1:21:17] and that the regional transit authority

[1:21:20] will continue to maintain

[1:21:22] basically control over

[1:21:24] funding um

[1:21:28] so

[1:21:29] i don't it doesn't look like we're going

[1:21:31] to become an acting 196 anytime soon

[1:21:34] there's there's no advantage to it

[1:21:37] um

[1:21:38] the only the biggest change it would

[1:21:40] make it would mean that

[1:21:42] instead of each community voting

[1:21:45] their knowledge to support noda

[1:21:47] currently it's a quarter mill

[1:21:50] if we became an authority then

[1:21:53] and it was approved by the voters as i

[1:21:56] understand it

[1:21:57] then the nota would be able to levy

[1:22:01] the millage themselves and not

[1:22:04] the local communities would not

[1:22:07] levy it

[1:22:08] but since noted is represented by

[1:22:12] all the townships and involved

[1:22:14] communities

[1:22:15] we'd still have

[1:22:16] a say in what what was living but it

[1:22:19] doesn't give us taxing authority to

[1:22:22] increase

[1:22:24] the money that i'm aware of but

[1:22:26] regardless it doesn't look like it's

[1:22:27] going to happen anytime soon so

[1:22:31] pollyanne trail management council

[1:22:32] there's a meeting this wednesday

[1:22:35] there's a meeting thursday for nota this

[1:22:37] wednesday's trail council things are

[1:22:39] starting to wrap up for

[1:22:41] the winter so

[1:22:43] there's not a lot going on just trying

[1:22:45] to get some scout projects finished and

[1:22:47] things like that

[1:22:49] big news for the village park was

[1:22:52] the generous donation that we received

[1:22:55] and i think it will tie nicely

[1:22:58] in with the planning commission's

[1:23:00] efforts on the sidewalks

[1:23:02] to get us

[1:23:03] connected you know to get that

[1:23:05] connectivity

[1:23:06] and then

[1:23:08] the donation

[1:23:09] of

[1:23:11] sherry's behalf

[1:23:13] can be used for some sidewalk work

[1:23:15] hopefully some crossing identification

[1:23:18] or maybe some signage you know directing

[1:23:21] people there things like that so

[1:23:23] i'm really relying on the park and rec

[1:23:25] commission

[1:23:26] to give us

[1:23:28] the priorities

[1:23:29] recommend to the council who do you go

[1:23:32] to for the saving program

[1:23:34] for the saving part of that to make sure

[1:23:36] that money is producing well that's going to be

[1:23:41] the council's responsibility to

[1:23:43] determine how much

[1:23:44] and then we would work with the

[1:23:46] treasurer

[1:23:47] to see how that would be because that is

[1:23:50] technically we are as trustees for the

[1:23:52] village we are responsible for that

[1:23:54] money as well so make sure it gets into

[1:23:56] something that is fairly safe it also

[1:23:58] produces

[1:23:59] right yeah i don't think it's going to

[1:24:01] make anybody rich but it's no but it's

[1:24:03] like

[1:24:04] if it'll pay for maintenance if it just

[1:24:06] comes out

[1:24:09] right great i have a question

[1:24:11] the donation um when you make a large

[1:24:14] donation like that to a municipality

[1:24:17] is there a tax ratification

[1:24:21] or is that just accepted as money in

[1:24:24] kind

[1:24:27] donations for the public good

[1:24:30] to a municipality

[1:24:32] or

[1:24:33] even a 501c3

[1:24:36] which municipalities are not

[1:24:39] um

[1:24:40] are tax exempt

[1:24:42] so that may well

[1:24:44] i can't say i'm not a tax person

[1:24:47] but donate you know okay if that was

[1:24:49] part of the estate and that was gifted

[1:24:52] to

[1:24:53] in that manner

[1:24:55] it may well be

[1:24:56] either all or part of it may be a

[1:24:58] write-off before they say

[1:25:01] no i don't mean for the people giving it

[1:25:03] i mean for you

[1:25:04] you're receiving it

[1:25:06] yeah there's no there's no tax

[1:25:07] ratifications or anything so you don't

[1:25:09] have to the village is a 501c

[1:25:12] no we're not but it doesn't work the irs

[1:25:15] considers us a

[1:25:17] tax exempt and like okay we're taxing

[1:25:20] down so you're you're the government

[1:25:22] getting the money anyway

[1:25:24] yeah the money would be used for the

[1:25:26] purposes for which it was donated

[1:25:31] okay uh can you development clock grant

[1:25:34] our monthly statement looks the same

[1:25:37] because we still haven't gotten the

[1:25:39] reallocation done but that should change

[1:25:43] soon

[1:25:44] and finally

[1:25:46] the uh

[1:25:48] the ad hoc super committee met

[1:25:50] last met met last month

[1:25:53] and um

[1:25:56] jennifer is going to give us an update

[1:25:59] uh soon if if not her then um

[1:26:03] the account of the row

[1:26:05] representative

[1:26:07] they're keeping me in the loop

[1:26:09] um

[1:26:10] so

[1:26:11] we'll just have to see how that proceeds

[1:26:14] and i have no correspondence or anything

[1:26:18] is there anything else the council

[1:26:19] members wish to bring

[1:26:21] [Music]

[1:26:25] i'd like to make a motion to adjourn the

[1:26:26] meeting

[1:26:29] okay upon a motion by trustee kennedy in

[1:26:32] a second by trustee swack

[1:26:38] [Music]

[1:26:46] okay thank you everybody

[1:26:49] [Music]

Leonard Village Trustees 11-15-21

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