[2:49] [Captioner present]

[3:23] >> Everybody ready?

[3:33] Good evening, ladies and gentlemen,

[3:38] welcome to the greatest show on Earth.

[3:44] The lighthouse point regular city commission meeting

[3:47] of August 11th, 2026.

[3:54] Mayor, Please do the invocation.

[4:02] >> Please bow your head.

[4:03] Heavenly father as we gather here this evening

[4:06] to transact the business of the city, we ask for your guidance

[4:09] so that our actions reflect what is

[4:11] best for our entire community.

[4:12] Help us to keep an open mind so we can listen to others in order

[4:15] to make informed decisions on the matters before us.

[4:17] Please remind us to be honest and fair.

[4:19] We ask that you can show your wisdom, strength

[4:21] and grace on our city officials, staff members and residents

[4:25] who work together for the people of West Point.

[4:28] We ask you to remind us to treat everyone

[4:31] with dignity respect and patience and justice.

[4:34] We ask for your protection and guidance for our country

[4:36] and the citizens of Lighthouse Point.

[4:39] In your name we pray.

[4:42] Amen.

[4:44] >> We're going to call the meeting to order and say

[4:46] the Pledge of Allegiance.

[4:53] >>I pledge allegiance the flag of the States of America

[4:55] and the Republic for it stands, one nation God, indivisible,

[4:55] with liberty justice for all.

[4:58] >> Good job.

[5:01] Madam clerk, roll call, please.

[5:05] >>

[5:06] [Roll call]

[5:30] >> Thank you, everybody.

[5:32] We Have several presentations and proclamations.

[5:44] We're going to start with the Library Summer Readers.

[5:57] >> These were some of the kids that participated in the library

[6:02] summer readings.

[6:04] Last Year we had 70 kids.

[6:12] This year we had 110.

[6:16] Last year They read 702 books.

[6:23] This year they read 1542.

[6:33] [Applause] You're going to notice

[6:36] there's a few people that have stuffies.

[6:41] They were our top readers.

[6:45] [Applause]

[6:56] [Background conversation]

[7:21] [Applause]

[7:53] [Background conversation]

[8:01] [Applause]

[8:09] >> And all of the kids look at that camera right there.

[8:41] >> I'll just say one quick thing here.

[8:43] I want to congratulate you guys on an amazing job of reading.

[8:47] I'll tell you that it takes commitment.

[8:55] We're so fortunate here at the city of Lighthouse Point

[9:00] to have our own city library and have our own children reading.

[9:07] I really want to thank all of the staff.

[9:14] [Applause] Congratulations.

[9:29] Thank you, parents!

[9:36] [Applause]

[9:39] >> Thank you to the library who sponsored all of the dinosaur

[9:43] toys.

[10:01] [Ambient conversation]

[10:57] >> Good job, boys and girls.

[11:00] We're going to move on to the recognition of the girls

[11:03] baseball MVP, which is Lexssa Link and Parker Van Buskirk.

[11:16] >> Good evening, commissioners.

[11:26] Just to give you a little background.

[11:28] We unfortunately were not able to get an older division

[11:31] for a girls softball this year.

[11:32] We just didn't have enough players in either.

[11:36] We had two girls that decided they

[11:37] were going to step up and be part of the baseball

[11:38] team for this year.

[11:39] We did not want to go with them unnoticed.

[11:41] So We have Parker Van Buskirk and Lexssa Link.

[11:55] I really enjoyed coaching Alexa and Parker this year.

[11:58] They were both so much fun to coach.

[12:01] They listened, competed and were absolutely fearless

[12:03] on the field.

[12:04] One of my favorite parts was watching

[12:05] them play along the boys and chuckling

[12:08] when they outplayed them.

[12:09] We all know that stepping up onto the field

[12:12] with a bunch of boys takes a little extra courage,

[12:14] and they sure showed it.

[12:16] In other words it didn't just play baseball with us this year,

[12:21] they made the team better.

[12:23] They set a standard for how the game should

[12:25] be played with heart, toughness and no excuses.

[12:29] Thank you both for being an awesome-- having

[12:36] an awesome season.

[12:36] It was a pleasure having you both on the team.

[12:38] I'm excited to see what the future holds for you both.

[12:43] Best of luck.

[12:46] Keep playing with the same heart and confidence.

[12:49] >> I'll pretend like I'm handing it out to you guys.

[12:54] I think it's important-- we didn't have enough girls

[13:07] for our older girls softball--

[13:13] Which is unfortunate.

[13:17] As you go about your travels and you

[13:20] hear someone that wants to play, please send them our way.

[13:23] We would definitely love to have a league this year.

[13:28] Without further ado, and what you forgot to mention

[13:31] is that I got to be their coach. (Indiscernible)--

[13:44] they are not only good athletes, but good teammates.

[13:49] They don't take any kind of crap from any of the boys over there.

[13:54] Can I look at it this way.

[13:55] When it came down to it in the championship game

[13:57] This last year, the people that came over

[14:07] with the biggest hits on our team

[14:08] were those two girls.-- more importantly their attitude

[14:14] with their teammates.

[14:17] A leader is the most important part

[14:18] of what we try to do here in-- they build young men

[14:23] and women into the future.

[14:27] Parker, Lexssa, Congratulations.

[14:31] It was awesome coaching both of you.

[14:36] I love you both.

[14:39] Thank you very much.

[14:51] [Applause]

[14:56] >> Do you guys want to say anything?

[15:00] >> We'll miss you.

[15:02] We're looking forward to seeing what your future holds.

[15:04] Not only on the field but off the field.

[15:11] >> Moving on.

[15:14] It's also going to recognize the Cooperstown semifinalists, LHP

[15:26] Mariners.

[15:29] [Applause]

[15:42] >> Ask these guys are falling in, we're really proud that

[15:44] we've been able to select a team to go.

[15:46] We have an anonymous donor that sponsors this team

[15:49] to go up from Miles point.

[15:51] This is our third year in a row.

[15:53] When we were thinking about a coach,

[15:54] I had to think about my childhood friend, Danny

[15:58] Horkheimer, to step up to the plate.

[16:01] His dad was my softball coach.

[16:03] And I used him often.

[16:04] And when I speak to my coaches every season

[16:07] saying that I remember his dad being

[16:09] out there with a smile on his face, always

[16:10] a positive attitude, laughing and joking around with the kids.

[16:13] I still remember that to this day.

[16:15] I just love to see that we had Danny

[16:17] out there being a representation because I know

[16:18] he would do an amazing job.

[16:20] I'm going to give him the mic to talk about these boys.

[16:27] [Applause]

[16:33] >> On behalf of LHP Mariners team, as coaches,

[16:42] the awesome families they're.

[16:45] Thank you so much to Steve Liles point, the donors and everybody.

[16:49] We appreciate these boys.

[16:50] It's the ultimate dream to go to the Mecca of baseball,

[16:53] Cooperstown, all star village.

[16:56] These 12 young men, you get the opportunity for them to do it.

[17:01] And we had the time of our lives.

[17:03] A few things real quick.

[17:05] The success of our team wasn't just about individuals.

[17:07] We had one player hit a walk off grand slam to win the game.

[17:12] We had one player that hit eight home runs in nine games.

[17:17] One player got a line drive, one hopper

[17:20] and threw him out from center field.

[17:21] Another player had two diving catches

[17:24] in one inning in the outfield.

[17:26] One got knocked over a second -- double plays.

[17:30] This guys was a trooper catching the ball.

[17:34] We may or may not have had a player--

[17:43] for everybody did their job.

[17:45] It was awesome.

[17:46] So proud of them.

[17:50] The families, grandparents and siblings, you all

[17:55] brought the-- give your parents a round of applause.

[18:08] [Applause] I was blessed with having these three

[18:10] guys to help coach the team.

[18:11] I couldn't have done it without you guys.

[18:14] Just awesome.

[18:15] Thank you so much.

[18:17] It was a team effort, and we couldn't

[18:19] have done it without you three helping me out.

[18:21] Real quick.

[18:24] There's 12 fields.

[18:28] There's a little bit of downtime.

[18:30] While we're doing that downtime is watching the games.

[18:33] What we do is have a person on our team

[18:34] who plays the Michael Jackson music real loud.

[18:44] These guys will never forget.

[18:50] There was 94 teams total.

[18:57] We actually play Team Australia.

[19:00] How cool was that?

[19:13] We beat them.

[19:17] We had so much fun .

[19:29] That's pretty impressive.

[19:32] [Applause] As a token of our appreciation,

[19:33] we want to give this awesome parks and recreation

[19:37] director, Becky Ward.

[19:39] She is the best.

[19:40] Love her so much.

[19:44] I've known her since I was this tall.

[19:47] You've done a great job.

[19:49] Thank you so much for allowing us to play

[19:51] and us coaches to do this.

[19:56] We're going to give you a little token of appreciation here.

[19:58] That's our team photo.

[20:01] Last thing is we have all of our players,

[20:04] and we have our team pins.

[20:06] Can everybody give the commissioners, the mayors

[20:09] and the staff here a team pin?

[20:16] Thank you so much.

[20:24] I appreciate it.

[20:28] What do you guys say?

[20:55] [Applause]

[20:57] >> (Indiscernible) I definitely want to thank the four of you

[21:51] for putting this together.

[21:52] And like I said before, we are super fortunate that they've

[22:00] donated it again for next year.

[22:10] [Applause] Thanks a lot, guys!

[22:15] Let's get a good picture.

[22:25] Come on up front, please.

[22:30] >> One last time.

[23:27] >> Moving on to recognition of police officer Bob Stebbins

[23:30] for 20 years of service.

[23:36] [Applause] First, this is Bob.

[23:38] And more importantly, I tell everybody 20 years

[23:41] is an accomplishment in one place.

[23:48] In today's world and the police department,

[23:50] it's really a lifetime.

[23:51] Here in Lighthouse point, you have amazing residents

[23:55] that truly respect and care and love the police department.

[23:57] More importantly, it's tough to guard every day.

[24:01] You don't know what the situation holds in front of you.

[24:03] You don't know what you're going to encounter.

[24:05] You don't know how to take certain things that

[24:07] happen when residents are upset or not upset.

[24:10] And I have known Bob for over ten years now.

[24:16] I continuously see him with a smile on his face.

[24:20] Big arms and a nice, firm handshake.

[24:25] Him and I both had the same injury at the same time.

[24:27] He had his shoulder-- but more importantly

[24:32] he has a passion for the job.

[24:34] He has a passion for lighthouse point.

[24:34] And it shows throughout every day.

[24:35] 20 years is an amazing accomplishment.

[24:37] I'm gonna take it over to Jack.

[24:42] You continue to exemplify what the men and women of Lighthouse

[24:45] Point represent --

[25:00] >> Mayor, and I echo everything you just said.

[25:02] Bob is the type of officer you want to come to your house

[25:03] if you have a problem.

[25:04] He is an informal leader.

[25:07] He has probably the best communication

[25:09] skills of many officers.

[25:14] He just knows how to speak to people and calm the situation.

[25:19] De-escalate the situation.

[25:24] He's a mentor to new officers on how to communicate properly

[25:26] with individuals.

[25:27] I'm so proud to have Bob with our team.

[25:45] Congratulations!

[25:45] [Applause]

[26:14] >> All right, last but certainly not least,

[26:16] I'd like To invite Marty Kiar, Broward County property

[26:25] appraiser.

[26:25] >> I'd really appreciate it.

[26:28] I love this city.

[26:29] It has been the happiest 20 minutes I've had all day.

[26:32] It's pretty fantastic.

[26:33] And I have to tell you, every single person I've ever

[26:35] met that works for the city has always

[26:37] had a smile on their face.

[26:38] They're so nice and so friendly.

[26:40] They're so happy.

[26:41] I think it's a testament to the great work

[26:43] that this city does for the people of this community.

[26:46] I also want to thank you all for your great service.

[26:48] Lighthouse point is awesome.

[26:49] I was just telling Abby this or somebody

[26:51] that I never met somebody at Lighthouse Point that dislikes

[26:54] living in Lighthouse Point.

[26:55] I actually -- I wanted to quickly give you an update

[27:09] as to where Lighthouse Point is right now when it comes

[27:11] to your property values, and also with regard to what

[27:18] it's doing when it comes to your property.

[27:19] So to give you an idea if you took

[27:21] all the commercial and residential property right now

[27:23] in Lighthouse Point and if you sold it in the open market

[27:26] last year you ever got it right about $6.5 billion.

[27:30] That's a pretty big number.

[27:31] Fast forward one year, there's been

[27:33] a 1.3 increase in its market value

[27:34] to right about $6.6 billion.

[27:36] The more important number, the taxable value

[27:39] that's the value that you're going to be utilizing.

[27:41] You're going to set your -- in 2025,

[27:48] the taxable value was about $4.069 billion.

[27:52] Fast forward one year, there's been a 6.1% increase

[27:55] in taxable value right about to $4.317 billion

[27:59] and to put that in perspective, if you keep your millage rate,

[28:03] which last year was 4.4207, I think

[28:07] that's your proposed millage rate for this year,

[28:09] you'll get an additional $1.09 million

[28:11] more this year than last year.

[28:13] And that's really not being paid for by the majority

[28:15] of your homes --

[28:20] you just put a good amount of new taxable value

[28:23] on the tax roll that's actually bringing

[28:25] in that additional revenue.

[28:26] There are 34,545 homesteaders of properties here in Lighthouse

[28:31] Point.

[28:31] You have 239 seniors who receive a pretty significant reduction

[28:34] for being low income seniors.

[28:36] They have 15 long term, low income seniors

[28:38] that pay no property taxes to the city of Lighthouse

[28:40] Point or the County Commission.

[28:42] You have 366 widowers who live here on Lighthouse Point.

[28:46] You also have 42 American heroes totally permanently disabled

[28:50] veterans that made Lighthouse Point -- and they paid no taxes.

[28:54] And you actually have one totally

[28:56] permanently disabled first responder who

[28:58] pays no property taxes as well.

[28:59] A couple of other interesting numbers.

[29:01] If the average sale price for a single family home right now

[29:05] in Lighthouse Point is about $2,095,000,

[29:09] that's a pretty significant number.

[29:16] The median is a little bit less.

[29:17] It's about $1.3 million.

[29:18] What's interesting about that is the median taxable value is

[29:20] about $660,000, which is much less than the median sale price.

[29:29] They love lighthouse and they never want to leave.

[29:33] And the last is you have a significant amount

[29:35] of condominium parcels here in Lighthouse Point.

[29:37] The average sale price is about $254,000.

[29:39] Very similar to what it was last year.

[29:42] The average taxable value is right around $133,000.

[29:45] They come here and they're protected by the home assessment

[29:50] clause.

[29:51] The value doesn't go up a whole lot.

[29:52] What I really came to talk about was something

[29:54] that was very important.

[29:55] This is what you all asked me to speak about.

[29:58] And I very much appreciate it, which

[30:00] is really about them text amendment

[30:01] for the people of the state of Florida to vote for or against.

[30:06] For the residents, how it impacts Lighthouse Point

[30:10] and Broward County, let me just let people know how we got here.

[30:13] You may recall more than a year ago

[30:14] some random person from North Florida got very upset

[30:16] about the property taxes.

[30:17] They basically tweeted property taxes are horrific.

[30:20] We gotta get rid of them.

[30:21] And it just so happens that governor Desantis saw that tweet

[30:24] and retweeted it.

[30:25] And when the governor retweets something--

[30:39] They decided to do a study and they

[30:42] said if you get rid of all property

[30:44] taxes, what does that mean for the state of Florida?

[30:48] Everything.

[30:51] It'll about to $60 billion of local government,

[30:54] and that money funds things like police, fires, schools,

[30:58] roads bridges, parks libraries, other things

[31:01] that we know locally.

[31:02] And if you're going to take 55 to $60 billion

[31:04] away that's one of those things, we still need those things.

[31:07] How do you replace the money?

[31:08] And they said you have to have an income tax, which

[31:11] thank God we'll never have.

[31:12] Or you have to increase the sales tax up

[31:14] to 12%, possibly 13 or 15%.

[31:18] In South Florida we have a higher cost of living.

[31:20] And what they decided to do was pull the likely voters

[31:22] to Florida.

[31:23] And when it comes to property taxes,

[31:25] the Constitution needs to be amended.

[31:27] And to be amended more than 60% of the people voting

[31:29] have to be in favor of it and that's the new law.

[31:31] They basically said, would you support

[31:34] getting rid of all property taxes

[31:35] and increasing the sales tax to the amount

[31:37] that I just mentioned?

[31:38] And overwhelming, the people of Florida said it was a bad idea.

[31:41] About 70% of the people said it was a bad idea.

[31:44] All political parties said it was a bad idea.

[31:47] When that happened, the conversation

[31:49] changed a little bit from eliminating all property taxes

[31:51] to focusing on homestead property taxes only.

[31:54] And as you know from June one to June 3rd,

[31:57] the Florida Legislature met in a special session where they

[31:59] placed the proposed amendment on the ballot in November

[32:02] for the people to vote for or against.

[32:04] And here's what the amendment doesn't do.

[32:06] It doesn't apply to schools.

[32:08] And so no matter what, people will always

[32:10] pay property taxes to schools.

[32:12] The second thing it doesn't do is

[32:13] it doesn't hold public safety harmless.

[32:22] And what that means is if local government is impacted

[32:24] negatively by this amendment, nothing

[32:25] is safe from being cut here's what it does.

[32:26] What it does is it basically says in order to qualify,

[32:29] you have to be a resident of Florida by January 1st 2027.

[32:33] If not you have to wait five years, and during that time

[32:36] you'll be under the current existing homestead exemption.

[32:38] It also says if you're a resident of Broward County

[32:41] or Lighthouse Point or the state of Florida,

[32:42] on January 1st of 2027, you'll get $150,000 exemption.

[32:46] What that really means is right now the homestead exemption

[32:49] is 5000.

[32:49] What this really does is increase to 250,000.

[32:52] It then says in 2028, that $150,000 exemption will then get

[32:57] raised from 150 to a $250,000 exemption to be applied to all

[33:01] taxing authorities, and then it basically gets a little bit

[33:06] vague.

[33:06] Where it basically says the legislature may possibly,

[33:10] it could if it wants ultimately do a schedule

[33:12] to eliminate all homesteaded property

[33:14] taxes except for the school portion of the tax bill.

[33:16] What I wanted to do was take the boarding of the amendment

[33:20] and apply it to the 2025 tax year.

[33:22] And I used that year because that was the year that we had

[33:26] all of the military -- we had all the values and we knew

[33:29] exactly how much money every taxing authority in Broward

[33:32] County took in, and we also know what the savings would have been

[33:35] for the property owner and the physical impacts each of those

[33:38] taxing authorities.

[33:39] That's what I have here.

[33:41] What I was hoping to do is start with this one.

[33:46] So this deals with the Broward County Commission.

[33:49] As you can see, if a person-- there were 424,899 homestead

[34:01] of parcels.

[34:01] If this was in effect, if everybody had hundred

[34:02] and $50,000 homestead exemption on the property.

[34:04] The average savings countywide Would be right around 1,104. --

[34:21] you do have $150,000 of value that you pay taxes on.

[34:25] You would save right around $1,325.

[34:27] The county's commission itself in 2025

[34:29] levied about $1.8 billion in property taxes.

[34:31] If this was in effect they would have levied about $1.6 billion.

[34:34] So about $150 million less than what they.

[34:37] It would have been about 10.8% difference.

[34:39] Lighthouse point so far at the beginning

[34:42] it's going to be affected a little less

[34:44] than the counties as a whole because the homes here

[34:47] are valued higher than the county on average.

[34:55] As you can see, with a 150,000 homestead exemption,

[34:59] Lighthouse Point is 3591 homesteads of parcels.

[35:02] If this was in effect, the average savings were property --

[35:06] if you would do that, you would save around --

[35:15] if this was in effect, you would have levied about $17.6 million.

[35:21] About $1.4 million less than what you levied.

[35:23] It's about a 7.7% decrease.

[35:34] And what I would like to do is on each one of these increases,

[35:37] I'd like to highlight a couple of cities.

[35:37] Cities that are always in contrast to each other, higher

[35:39] value properties, they are a little bit

[35:42] different than cities with almost all homestead

[35:44] and no commercial.

[35:45] In this situation, the two cities

[35:47] that are in contrast to each other

[35:48] is Pembroke Park and Tamarac.

[35:50] Pembroke Park is barely ever impacted.

[35:52] It's basically a mobile home community

[35:54] with very few homesteaded properties.

[35:56] As you can see with $150,000 exemption,

[35:59] they will lose right around 0.9% of what they collect in property

[36:10] taxes.

[36:12] That's a negligible amount that they can easily make up.

[36:12] Tamarack has a lot of homesteaded properties,

[36:12] not a whole lot of commercial properties.

[36:12] They will lose about 22.3% of what they

[36:14] collected in property taxes.

[36:16] The next thing I wanted to bring up is what happens in 2028?

[36:19] Now in 2028 that 150,000 homestead exemption gets raised

[36:24] to hundred and $50,000 to be applied to all taxing

[36:26] authorities by the--

[36:34] Broward County is 424,899 homestead of parcels.

[36:36] If this was in effect, the average savings

[36:38] per property owner would be 1879 because not everybody has--

[36:46] the County Commission levied about $1.8 billion

[36:49] in property taxes.

[36:50] If this was in effect they would have levied about $1.47 billion.

[36:53] About $330 million less than what they levied.

[36:55] So they would have left about an 18.5% decrease.

[37:00] Lighthouse point isn't impacted as great because you

[37:03] have much more value here in your homes overall,

[37:07] and the county does on average the attack.

[37:13] So in Lighthouse point, you have 3591 homesteads at parcels.

[37:17] If it was in effect, the average Savings

[37:21] would be-- if this was in effect,

[37:31] you would have levied about $16.3 million.

[37:33] About $2.7 million less than what you levied.

[37:33] It's a 14.3% decrease.

[37:35] The two cities that are in contrast

[37:38] to each other a city in Pembroke Park.

[37:40] I think I saw the mayor who's right over there,

[37:45] and Pembroke Park is barely impacted.

[37:47] Pembroke Park would lose about 1.2%

[37:50] of what he collected in property taxes.

[37:52] Cooper City which has a whole lot of homesteaded properties

[37:55] and not a lot of commercial will lose about 34.5%

[37:57] of what it collected in property taxes.

[38:00] The last one I wanted to bring up before --

[38:04] what may possibly happen.

[38:06] I may -- the language is a little bit vague about

[38:10] what's going to occur.

[38:11] It basically says that after --

[38:22] >> Some would say the Constitution is vague.

[38:24] >> You are 100% right.

[38:26] This is where it gets vague in the language.

[38:28] It basically says that after the $250,000 exemption,

[38:30] the legislature may possibly do some type of schedule

[38:32] to potentially eliminate all homestead property taxes,

[38:35] except for the school portion of the tax bill.

[38:37] And this is one where Lighthouse Point really is impacted.

[38:40] Let me explain.

[38:42] Before we go there, Broward County Commission is 424,899

[38:46] homestead properties.

[38:47] If all property taxes were eliminated

[38:50] for taxing authorities for the school board,

[38:53] the average would be 348 the County Commission levied--

[39:05] about $636 million less than what they levied.

[39:07] So it would Be about a 35.3% decrease.

[39:19] The reason why Lighthouse Point is really impacted

[39:21] is because you have high value properties where people

[39:22] pay a lot of money in their property taxes

[39:24] on their assessed value.

[39:27] There are 3591 homestead properties here

[39:31] in Lighthouse Point.

[39:32] The average savings is pretty large.

[39:33] It's about $8,327, but as you can see, if this was in effect,

[39:39] lighthouse point would have led--

[39:49] to about $11.2 million less-- if it's okay,

[39:57] the two cities that are very much in stark districts--

[40:00] Pembroke Park and Parkland.

[40:03] Which is a pure bedroom community, all homesteaded,

[40:05] will lose about 75.5% of what it collected in Texas.

[40:09] But I do think it's important to note

[40:10] is you know what your public safety budget is.

[40:13] Parkland is about 55%.

[40:14] You lose 75% of what you collect,

[40:17] you still owe 55% for that.

[40:19] The math is kind of weird.

[40:20] That's where something would have to occur.

[40:22] The last part that I wanted to talk about

[40:24] before I answer any questions is what's

[40:27] not getting a whole lot of coverage

[40:29] but it's still part of the amendment.

[40:31] Because even though most people are focusing

[40:32] on the homesteaded portion of it, and so is the news media,

[40:35] there's also a portion for non-homestead properties.

[40:37] So currently under Florida law, all Non-homestead properties

[40:48] cannot go up more than 10% a year,

[40:49] except for the school portion of the tax bill.

[40:49] Even if your market value goes up 50 or 60%,

[40:51] the value tax sign -- this would drop the 10% cap to 5% that

[40:55] basically sets the value cannot go more than 5%,

[40:58] except for the school portion of the tax bill.

[41:01] Countywide, there are 298,191 non homesteaded parcels

[41:05] in the county.

[41:07] Those are all commercial residential

[41:09] that's not homesteaded.

[41:11] The county commission collected about $1.8 billion in taxes.

[41:15] If this was in effect, they would

[41:16] have collected about $1.777 billion in taxes,

[41:19] about $26 million less than what they collected about at 1.5%

[41:24] decrease.

[41:25] Lighthouse Point is not impacted as great as the county.

[41:28] Lighthouse Point would have lost about $187,000,

[41:33] about a 1% decrease.

[41:35] That's the full amendment that's actually

[41:36] going to be on the ballot.

[41:37] And its impact on the county and Lighthouse point.

[41:41] I want to thank you all for giving me the opportunity

[41:43] to speak about it because what I've been doing,

[41:45] I'll be honest with you.

[41:46] I haven't taken a public position on.

[41:48] The reason being is because I do feel

[41:50] like I'm the guy that just has the numbers.

[41:52] And I think it's important to provide all the numbers

[41:54] to the people on Broward County so they can make the best

[41:56] vote possible, both the savings for property owner

[41:59] and the fiscal impact to all of the government, which

[42:01] is exceptionally important.

[42:02] With that said, if you have any questions,

[42:08] it would be my pleasure if I sound a little tired,

[42:11] I'm so sorry.

[42:12] I had about five cups of coffee about three hours ago

[42:15] and I'm starting to come down from.

[42:16] I appreciate you all having me here.

[42:19] And I really do appreciate the great work that you do.

[42:22] I was telling Abby, one of my best friends at one point

[42:26] was the finance director for Lighthouse Point.

[42:30] So he would give me a really good insight

[42:33] into the inner workings of Lighthouse Point.

[42:36] And I have to tell you that the way he would speak

[42:38] about your staff, the work that you do, I actually

[42:41] believe this is one of the best run of all of our 31 cities.

[42:44] Don't tell the other 30 cities I said that.

[42:46] It is so well done.

[42:48] I very much appreciate it.

[42:49] >> Any questions?

[42:58] >> The drop from 10 to 5, that's all Non-homestead --

[43:07] that's commercial and Non-homestead residential?

[43:09] >> Everything that's not exempt.

[43:09] They would all be residential that's not homesteaded

[43:09] and all commercial as well.

[43:09] The only ones that wouldn't apply to, except properties

[43:12] and things of that nature. --

[43:23] Churches, exempt properties.

[43:29] >> Do you have any insight?

[43:30] Still see dropping it from 10 to 5, it reduces the revenue.

[43:33] It just won't be as dramatic.

[43:34] >> You're 100% right.

[43:41] With regard to the current 10% cap and 5% cap,

[43:43] more money is still going to be coming in,

[43:45] just not as good as it would have been.

[43:47] It's going to be very interesting let's

[43:55] see what happens in November.

[43:58] The one thing I do tell people, which I think is important,

[44:00] amending the Constitution is a very big deal.

[44:04] Personally, if somebody in public office that you think

[44:07] may not be doing the greatest job,

[44:09] you could put somebody else in that office.

[44:09] You amend the Constitution there for perpetuity,

[44:11] and that's why it's a very hard thing to do.

[44:13] I'm hoping that every single resident in the state of Florida

[44:16] that's likely to vote does their research

[44:18] and votes the best way possible.

[44:19] The only thing I've learned as well

[44:21] is not a partisan issue at all.

[44:31] I've talked to Democrats Republicans and people

[44:33] on all sides, and it's going to be a very interesting.

[44:33] I think it's more just an individual vote as to what

[44:34] people think is best for them.

[44:35] Just one of the things if it's okay,

[44:38] and it's been tried in other places.

[44:40] And I think it's fascinating it shows it's not partisan.

[44:42] North Dakota actually tried to eliminate all property taxes

[44:45] in 2024.

[44:46] North Dakota is a pretty red place.

[44:50] It's even redder than Florida.

[44:52] I think Donald Trump beat Kamala Harris by about 34 points

[44:55] in North Dakota.

[44:56] At the same time, the amendment to eliminate all property taxes

[44:59] only received about 35, 36% of the vote.

[45:03] I think it's going to be a very interesting vote,

[45:06] it's an individual.

[45:08] Thank you for having me today.

[45:17] Anything I can ever do.

[45:18] Just let me know.

[45:19] >> Do any residents have any questions?

[45:26] can you come down to give your name for the record?

[45:36] >> I want to tell you this is awesome.

[45:37] Very few places I've ever been to in the City Commission where

[45:37] the commission actually says, would the residents

[45:37] like to ask a question.

[45:38] That is fantastic.

[45:40] >> Bob Clampett, resident of Lighthouse Point since 2018

[45:53] and Broward County property owner since 1971.

[45:55] A couple of questions.

[45:55] The young people in Broward are having a hard time

[45:57] affording to buy a house.

[45:59] Are there any local or state initiatives that

[46:01] are in the hopper that you know of that

[46:06] might be able to give these young people a break?

[46:15] Because once you put insurance and the property taxes

[46:17] onto a mortgage, a lot of these people

[46:22] can't even qualify that normally would.

[46:24] That's a long term resident, somebody that grew up here,

[46:28] what are you doing, what is the state doing, what

[46:32] is the county commission doing to help these people?

[46:34] >> That's such a great question.

[46:39] Thank you so much.

[46:40] It's something I worry about all the time.

[46:40] I have two daughters.

[46:41] They are 17 and 14 .

[46:47] I love them so much.

[46:52] And one thing I worry about is when

[46:54] they're ready to buy a home, they

[46:54] won't be able to afford a home, and they're gonna move.

[46:56] That is a very cost prohibitive place--

[47:02] that is one area where I think people do need tax relief.

[47:05] Because you've been a long term profiteer,

[47:07] and you've bought a home in 2016, as soon as you buy your--

[47:18] the taxes are astronomical.

[47:19] Unfortunately right now, there really

[47:21] isn't anything you can do in the Florida law.

[47:23] What we do is if somebody buys a home, we reach out to them.

[47:29] We try to make sure they get all the current exemptions that

[47:31] are there, whether it's a homestead exemption or anything

[47:34] else.

[47:34] If they want to sit down and we'll

[47:37] go through the property with them,

[47:38] and we'll see if they overpaid or if it's not

[47:40] reflective with other sales in the area.

[47:42] Any way we can try to bring it down a little bit.

[47:44] It is very hard for them.

[47:46] I do know there are some cities every once in a while that

[47:51] would have certain incentives.

[47:52] Usually they can be income based.

[47:54] There's really not a whole lot available for them.

[47:58] And I appreciate that.

[48:04] One thing that I think is important,

[48:07] whether this passes or not, a lot of people

[48:09] actually don't know what happens to their property taxes

[48:09] when they buy their home.

[48:09] Because if somebody bought your home, you've been in your home

[48:12] for 40 years--

[48:20] 2018.

[48:21] If somebody bought your home, that first year, they're

[48:25] gonna get the same text that you're gonna get,

[48:25] which is probably going to be a very manageable text

[48:26] but overall.

[48:26] And what happens is the year after, that's

[48:29] when they get their new tax bill based on their purchase price.

[48:32] The one thing we try to do, especially for younger people

[48:35] is we try to direct them to their tax estimator

[48:37] so they really understand what's going

[48:40] to be the tax implications of their property,

[48:42] so they can really make sure they can afford it.

[48:44] That was a great question.

[48:45] I wish I had a better direct answer to you of how

[48:48] we can help them, but there are very few ways

[48:50] right now under the law.

[49:00] Great question.

[49:03] >> Any other questions?

[49:07] >> This is like the best ever.

[49:09] I love this.

[49:17] >> 2015 Northeast 39th Street.

[49:18] Your projections are based on 2025 property values.

[49:21] This is not taken to presumption that right now property values

[49:24] are-- sale prices is more of a buyer's market.

[49:37] If the amendment were to pass, then we

[49:39] could assume that property taxes were

[49:40] to be potentially lower if property sales go down.

[49:43] Does that make sense?

[49:57] >> Lisa, you make a very good point.

[50:00] The one thing that's certain about property

[50:01] is it's in certain.

[50:01] And it basically you're the year values go up and down.

[50:01] And the way that works is January 1st,

[50:03] what we call our date of assessment,

[50:06] when you're in November, the tax bill comes out.

[50:10] It's what-- other times you can have a crash.

[50:19] It can make it go way down.

[50:20] This year, for the most part values

[50:20] are going up for the most part.

[50:20] Not as dramatically as before, but they're

[50:23] leveling out a little bit.

[50:25] But you could have, in 2026 when we look at all the numbers,

[50:33] because it doesn't take effect until 2027.

[50:35] And I don't know if this is the case.

[50:35] Let's say we see a decline in property values.

[50:37] Then you are right.

[50:38] Next year will not only be less money coming in because

[50:41] of the exemption, but the assessed value

[50:44] could go down as well.

[50:45] It all depends.

[50:46] Does that help answer your question?

[50:47] It's a great question.

[50:50] >> Any other questions?

[51:02] >> Mike was Dizzy, president of Lighthouse Point since 1996.

[51:05] I just want to say thank you very much for being here today.

[51:05] I will tell you this, very rarely do I

[51:08] write government officials.

[51:21] [Laughter] It's an inside joke.

[51:25] But just to let you know that when I have written you,

[51:27] it's great to know that the service level that both you,

[51:32] personal emails that you can get from Mardhekar

[51:34] and also for your, it's been fantastic.

[51:37] Just keep up the great work.

[51:39] Just a quick question on protection.

[51:40] Do you have anything that you could at least enlighten

[51:43] people on regards to that?

[51:44] >> That actually makes me feel so good.

[51:51] A few years ago I wanted to answer 10,000 emails very bad.

[51:53] On December 31st, I was 9999.

[51:55] Nobody wanted to email me, so I emailed myself and got the ten

[51:59] 000.

[52:00] Unfortunately, South Florida is the title Fraud capital

[52:04] of the world.

[52:05] It's the capital of the because you have criminals,

[52:07] and what they do is they walk into a recording divisions,

[52:10] they file fake deeds on people's properties

[52:13] and they take those deeds, and they extort people for money.

[52:17] Well we wanted to do a few years ago was basically

[52:19] give people the opportunity to be notified if somebody did that

[52:22] to them.

[52:22] So we found we did a fantastic thing called owner alert.

[52:26] It's a notification program that lets

[52:28] people know if somebody changes the title to the property.

[52:30] Anybody can sign up, in Lighthouse Point

[52:32] has been a great partner in helping people sign up here.

[52:34] If anybody wants to sign up, they go to our website at. .net

[52:38] they type in their name.

[52:40] They type in their email address.

[52:42] And if anybody tries to file a deed in their property,

[52:45] whether it's legitimate or not, they'll

[52:54] be notified instantaneously by email, text message.

[52:57] It's free to the public.

[52:57] All the information we collect is

[52:57] exempt from public disclosure.

[52:57] We've had almost 380,000 property owners so far.

[52:59] I believe if I'm remembering, 68% of Lighthouse points

[53:09] have signed up, which I think is really great.

[53:11] Along those lines when we started this program,

[53:21] I started getting emails and phone calls from residents.

[53:23] And somebody just changed the title to my property,

[53:23] but I didn't do it.

[53:23] And I got more and more.

[53:24] I realized how big of a deal it was.

[53:25] I came up with the idea.

[53:27] I wanted to work with law enforcement

[53:28] and put people in jail who do this.

[53:30] So I got the approval from the state of Florida

[53:31] to be able to have what I call crimes against my property to.

[53:34] We then entered an agreement with the Sheriff's office where

[53:37] Sheriff -- to Florida Department of--- we also work with FBI

[53:53] and other police forces throughout the county

[53:54] and our job is to find people that steal people's properties

[53:54] and put them in jail.

[53:55] And we've had more than a thousand

[53:56] individual criminal cases.

[53:57] We've had hundreds of convictions.

[53:59] And we work with the court system

[54:01] to get properties back to people in a cost efficient manner

[54:03] and I'll just give you one quick example.

[54:05] Just to show people what these people will do.

[54:11] There's one case, which I'm really proud of.

[54:21] And I'll bring it up because my legal counsel is here.

[54:24] She was my witness in it.

[54:24] That's Mila Schwartz rich.

[54:24] She's a great lawyer.

[54:24] There was one case where there was

[54:26] a man that Stole a senior's home in Limerick.

[54:28] And you have to understand the people

[54:30] that they prey upon are usually the most vulnerable people.

[54:33] Stole the seniors home Stole the seniors life savings.

[54:36] Did some terrific things.

[54:37] He decided to go to a.

[54:39] The jury found him guilty unanimously.

[54:40] Then he walked up to the judge, who Was Judge Odom.

[54:50] And he said, when do I come back from my sentencing?

[54:55] And he said you have about 15 seconds.

[54:57] And he gave him 15 years.

[54:57] That's how the sentences are getting.

[54:59] And I'm happy because they pick on the most vulnerable people.

[55:03] Typical seniors.

[55:04] They pick on people with disabilities.

[55:06] And my goal is to make sure they work hard

[55:11] and make sure they spend it very long time in prison.

[55:15] Thank you so much for asking that question and to make

[55:18] a long winded statement, if anybody in lighthouse--

[55:30] I also want to thank you all because you allow us

[55:33] all the time to have our staff here

[55:33] as well, which has made it so convenient for the public.

[55:35] >> Fourth Monday.

[55:42] >> It's so helpful.

[55:43] I can't tell you how much I appreciate that.

[55:45] The one thing about my job is you get

[55:45] to help a whole lot of people.

[55:46] The most difficult thing is you don't always-- you

[55:50] get to help everybody you know you can't help.

[55:55] When a city allows you to be here and have your staff here.

[55:57] You're actually helping me reach people

[56:01] I can't reach out on my own.

[56:02] So I want to thank you all so much for that.

[56:04] >> Any other questions?

[56:18] >> Shelly Campbell, 1920 Northeast 29th Street pier

[56:20] my question is for the Commissioner.

[56:21] What is the city's plan to offset the shortfall in revenue

[56:21] of this amendment passes?

[56:23] What is the city going to do to maintain that?

[56:27] >> I will start with this.

[56:36] I will echo what Marty says.

[56:37] The fact that we have run a very conservative fiscal city

[56:37] since we've been in existence.

[56:39] And we continuously have the best staff

[56:43] and we stay competitive at the highest

[56:46] round we don't have first time home buyer exemptions

[56:49] and we don't have a lot of these things.

[56:51] We don't give out money to charities

[56:53] and we do very little of that stuff.

[56:55] With that being said over the last couple of years,

[57:07] we have taken the money in the revenue that's increased

[57:09] and we have really dumped it back in our infrastructure.

[57:09] As we continuously dump it back in our infrastructure,

[57:10] I tell people all the time that the cost of living

[57:12] may be 3 or 4% and the tax revenue is definitely coming in.

[57:27] The projects that we're doing have gone up year

[57:30] over year, 25%.

[57:32] Well we built the bridge Four in 2022. $3.9 million

[57:42] is now going to be run here in 2027.

[57:43] Somewhere around $7.5 million.

[57:43] The city of Lighthouse Point is also a big page --

[57:46] I believe what you see around here

[57:48] and when you look at the library,

[57:49] you look at the police and the fire.

[57:51] You look at the unsung heroes here at Public Works

[57:54] and you look at our recreational departments.

[57:56] You look at all of the departments.

[57:58] And these people have to get paid

[58:00] so we need a good finance department

[58:01] and we need a great leader.

[58:03] We need legal and city clerks.

[58:05] You cannot pay them substandard wages and expect the best

[58:12] service.

[58:14] With that being said, you will definitely

[58:17] see our goals looking at what we will

[58:19] see whether it's 150 or 250.

[58:19] 150 would be the elimination of a lot of long term capital

[58:21] improvement projects we've delayed from 20 years ago.

[58:33] 250 star would definitely -- it's hard to say when you look

[58:36] at what's important, I get everybody says police and fire?

[58:38] They became an unprotected aspect of it.

[58:41] Everybody thinks police and fire will stay the same.

[58:43] They are not protected.

[58:44] It's hard to say that we're going to go ahead and cut down--

[58:54] get rid of a public library or public works pier

[58:58] it's going to be collective across the board.

[59:04] The assessments will be part of it.

[59:05] And I remind people that those are not tax exempt either.

[59:05] You cannot write those off on your taxes.

[59:07] That's unfortunate--

[59:20] you can't assess for certain things.

[59:21] The assessment for fire is only used for fire assessment.

[59:25] I would say as you look at it, there's

[59:25] a conversation of what Marty was mentioning.

[59:25] Some of the money, whether they would raise sales tax

[59:28] or how they would have an off site-- folks that

[59:38] don't know here, for the last four years

[59:40] have had a lobbyist and we've gone to Tallahassee

[59:40] and asked for money because we put a lot of money

[59:40] into the coffers, and we don't get a lot back

[59:42] for the city of lighthouse point.

[59:48] I remind residents when you see your textbook,

[59:50] 21.2% of the bill that you pay comes to Lighthouse Point Pier

[59:53] everything else goes somewhere else.

[59:58] So if your tax bill is $10,000, we're not getting $10,000.

[1:00:02] This year we had roughly two and a half, $3 million

[1:00:17] worth of appropriations.

[1:00:18] So when the money's up in Tallahassee, your project,

[1:00:24] your appropriations, your needs and wants.

[1:00:31] Sometimes-- a really little fishing in a really big pond.

[1:00:34] I stress about it every night.

[1:00:35] That's why I'm looking like this.

[1:00:41] If not I'd have Jason's hair.

[1:00:43] >> I'm getting gray.

[1:00:47] >> I'm the one thing I forgot to mention.

[1:00:50] The court did rule recently that they

[1:00:54] have to-- all of that really means

[1:00:56] is the way the law works it was written,

[1:00:57] so the Attorney general was supposed to redo the language.

[1:00:58] It's still going to be on the ballot.

[1:01:00] It will be in different format.

[1:01:02] The language will be a little different

[1:01:03] than what's currently there.

[1:01:17] >> She's behind.

[1:01:20] >> Hello.

[1:01:22] Good to see you.

[1:01:23] The, you have my address on record.

[1:01:25] So when the lieutenant governor was here a couple of weeks ago.

[1:01:27] He mentioned that in Tallahassee there's a surplus of funds

[1:01:30] and that they would be weeded out accordingly

[1:01:35] if CDs were in need.

[1:01:36] And then a couple of weeks later, our appropriations

[1:01:36] did not come through.

[1:01:36] I realize that's a different thing that he's talking about.

[1:01:39] My question is about the ballot language.

[1:01:41] Is there anything in the ballot that

[1:01:43] talks about money coming down from Tallahassee

[1:01:47] and how that gets appropriated to according to me, whoever's

[1:02:04] the best friends up there?

[1:02:07] Is there anything in the ballot protecting residents

[1:02:09] to make sure that lighthouse would

[1:02:11] get the same appropriations?

[1:02:17] >> Great questions.

[1:02:17] The answer is no.

[1:02:24] The thing is, when the governor had

[1:02:28] proposed his plans to the legislature,

[1:02:29] it had a trust fund in there.

[1:02:29] And what the governor had advocated

[1:02:31] for was that the trust fund would be utilized by the-- it

[1:02:37] would be utilized to help fiscally constrained counties.

[1:02:44] For example, Lighthouse Point ultimately lost

[1:02:46] 6% of its revenue.-- it took out the trust fund

[1:02:53] because the support wasn't there for it

[1:02:55] so right now when you look at the plain wording of it,

[1:02:55] it doesn't show how any revenue will be allocated.

[1:02:58] One thing I think is such a good question

[1:03:00] because I was thinking about this as you were talking.

[1:03:06] There are more than 400 some our throughout the state of Florida

[1:03:13] and there are 67 counties.

[1:03:14] Every county and every city can just do different things.

[1:03:14] Depending on who's elected in those areas.

[1:03:14] Some counties and some cities say, we have a level of service.

[1:03:17] Service is very important.

[1:03:19] We want to fund everything the way it is.

[1:03:21] Maybe it will increase fees, millage rates and do

[1:03:23] all kinds of different things.

[1:03:25] Others say that people voted for a tax help.

[1:03:27] We're just going to cut.

[1:03:29] So it will be all over the place.

[1:03:31] It's almost like a mortgage sport.

[1:03:33] I want to bring it up because nobody really

[1:03:35] knows what's going to happen with that.

[1:03:36] Great question.

[1:03:39] Thank you for that.

[1:03:51] >> Anybody else?

[1:03:51] >> Can I jump on one more thing?

[1:03:54] I want to commend you all because it's not

[1:03:54] easy to get an appropriation all the way to the government,

[1:03:57] whether the governor signs it or vetoes it in the budget.

[1:04:06] It's a very hard process.

[1:04:07] I was in the legislature for six years.

[1:04:07] Everybody wants money.

[1:04:07] They did every single state representative and state senator

[1:04:08] to bring stuff back to the communities,

[1:04:10] and everybody's fighting for it and the fact

[1:04:12] that you all were able to get appropriations up,

[1:04:30] it's pretty impressive feat. think it's pretty commendable.

[1:04:34] Thank you.

[1:04:40] [Applause]

[1:04:41] >> Moving on, we now have public comments requests from

[1:04:43] the floor. have an open there with our property If anybody

[1:04:43] would to come up and address an issue.

[1:04:43] Come forward and state your name and address and will you be

[1:04:46] given three minutes to speak.

[1:04:50] Anybody coming forward?

[1:04:53] I'm not seeing anybody.

[1:05:16] >> Come on up.

[1:05:18] >> I'm David Mangold.

[1:05:20] I live in 4001, Northeast 27th terrace.

[1:05:28] I thought a lot the sidewalk issue I

[1:05:30] on the west The sidewalks going to go on the east side.

[1:05:43] I assume there's quite traffic study done.

[1:05:45] I have lived in my home since 1998.

[1:05:54] 28 years.

[1:05:55] I have children that were born in that house and raised.

[1:06:03] The traffic has been horrendous every day for years and years.

[1:06:14] The police hardly ever come there

[1:06:17] to check people with their radar gun or whatever for speeding.

[1:06:22] They Finally put in two speed bumps which works a little bit.

[1:06:24] They speed between speed bumps from 39

[1:06:26] to the first speed bump in front of my house

[1:06:33] to the next speed bump.

[1:06:34] It seemed they drove even faster coming back

[1:06:36] after having a lunch, or a cocktail or a beer.

[1:06:46] We're lucky that no kids have ever been hurt or killed

[1:06:48] on that street.

[1:06:48] So what I'm getting at is the traffic study

[1:06:54] was done, which I don't know about.

[1:07:00] So they think pedestrians walking their dogs or whatever

[1:07:02] would be safer on a sidewalk, which has some merits to it.

[1:07:14] The reason the sidewalk is thought about

[1:07:17] is because maybe it's a requirement of the yacht club

[1:07:17] and their plans to make the community safer

[1:07:18] for people driving to and from the yacht club.

[1:07:21] I don't know how many cars, new cars are going to be there

[1:07:26] when all of these condos are built.

[1:07:28] It's going to be significant.

[1:07:31] And when they build a new restaurant,

[1:07:44] the yacht club members will be coming and coming.

[1:07:47] I have thoughts and wondered all along,

[1:07:50] a parallel street east of us is called Northeast 30th Avenue.

[1:07:56] And that goes right in-- it could go right

[1:08:05] into the Yacht club.

[1:08:06] I would think that it would be very wise to share the burden

[1:08:09] off of my street by having 27th terrace for the traffic

[1:08:11] into the yacht club, 30th Avenue out.

[1:08:23] One way in, one way out.

[1:08:32] If there's no requirements by the city to have 30th cut

[1:08:37] through, remove one of the tennis courts,

[1:08:39] and its into the parking lot.

[1:08:40] That seems pretty wise to me.

[1:08:42] >> Thank you very much for bringing it to our attention.

[1:08:50] >> Can you tell me, what's a traffic study done on 27th?

[1:09:01] >> Yes.

[1:09:02] >> And is there a requirement by the Yacht Club to have

[1:09:02] a sidewalk?

[1:09:02] >> It's in their development agreement.

[1:09:08] >> And has there been any discussion or decisions about

[1:09:12] utilizing Northeast 30th avenue?

[1:09:20] I think one way in and one way out would be perfect.

[1:09:22] Are both ways in and both ways out,

[1:09:22] because there is people that would choose to use 30th versus

[1:09:22] 27th terrace.

[1:09:24] >> The development that was done over the last eight years.

[1:09:38] The development itself came back with what the design is,

[1:09:43] which is an in and out on 27th terrace.

[1:09:52] >> The guy you gotta talk to is back there if he wants to change

[1:09:55] it.

[1:09:55] It might be a tough list at this point.

[1:09:56] >> The city can orchestrate anything.

[1:10:05] Why not?

[1:10:06] >> Because we have already passed and approved the site

[1:10:09] plan several years ago.

[1:10:14] >> In addition to the sidewalks, there's a provision that

[1:10:19] requires them to do permanent traffic-- which would include--

[1:10:32] (Indiscernible) -- the narrowing of the street,

[1:10:48] the addition of the striping and the added speed bump should also

[1:11:00] help reduce >> I'd really like to see those speed signs that

[1:11:03] blink when you exceed 25.

[1:11:04] In 28 years, I can count with two hands

[1:11:04] the number of times there's ever been a police car with speed

[1:11:07] monitoring device.

[1:11:14] But they are all over other places.

[1:11:27] >> Thank you.

[1:11:28] Any other public comments or requests from the floor?

[1:11:30] We will close public comments.

[1:11:40] No reports from city administration.

[1:11:41] No department reports.

[1:11:41] No reports from the city attorney.

[1:11:41] Code enforcement is going to meet the August 18th.

[1:11:41] Community appearance is August 20th.

[1:11:43] Lighting-- moving on to the consent agenda.

[1:11:55] Is there anything that we need to pull from the consent agenda?

[1:11:57] Hearing none.

[1:12:00] Do we have a second?

[1:12:03] We have a motion and a second on the consent agenda

[1:12:05] all those in favor signify by saying aye.

[1:12:08] The motion passes four zero.

[1:12:11] Moving on to unfinished business continued discussion

[1:12:13] on the implementation of off site sidewalk improvements

[1:12:22] identified in section 11.2.3 of the development agreement with

[1:12:24] Lighthouse Point Yacht Club.

[1:12:32] >> Good evening. (Indiscernible)--

[1:12:35] in accordance with the terms of developers-- (Indiscernible)--

[1:12:49] On February 14th, 2023, the city Commission previously discussed

[1:12:59] sidewalk improvements required under section 11.2.3

[1:13:02] of the developer's agreement.

[1:13:14] During the discussion, (Indiscernible)--

[1:13:21] several residents attended the February 14th meeting to provide

[1:13:24] public comment. (Indiscernible)--

[1:13:28] the city Commission acknowledged that they were sensitive

[1:13:36] to concerns raised by the residents.

[1:13:38] However, they did not support eliminating the sidewalk

[1:13:42] requirements at the time, and the item be further discussed.

[1:13:45] On July 29th, that was a week or so ago,

[1:13:56] residents on Northeast 27 terrace were again surveyed

[1:13:58] regarding the sidewalk project.

[1:14:00] The results-- seven of the ten homeowners

[1:14:05] were in favor of putting in sidewalks.

[1:14:07] One was against the installation sidewalks.

[1:14:07] One was undecided.

[1:14:07] And we were unable to reach -- residents on the west side

[1:14:08] of 27th terrace.

[1:14:09] Seven of those residents were in favor of the sidewalk.

[1:14:12] One was against and there were six homeowners

[1:14:15] that we were not able to reach.

[1:14:18] We believe that the change the number of people that

[1:14:22] are in favor of the sidewalk is based on the idea

[1:14:26] that we would be leaving the sidewalks down the street

[1:14:29] and not having it all six feet up until--

[1:14:41] on some places the sidewalk would

[1:14:45] be along the edge of the road to minimize the effects

[1:14:47] of these large trees.

[1:14:51] Some of the residents were at one time opposed to sidewalk.

[1:14:58] The city has engaged Keith.

[1:15:05] The city engineer-- the installation of sidewalks

[1:15:10] will include all the improvements

[1:15:11] necessary to complete the sidewalk project.

[1:15:20] As part of your attachment and your agenda report,

[1:15:22] there's a copy of the Engineering

[1:15:22] and project across estimates.

[1:15:23] The cost of the improvement, including engineering

[1:15:30] and the responsibility is the responsibility of developer

[1:15:33] in accordance with section 11.2.3 -- (Indiscernible).

[1:15:42] I believe we probably have some residents here that live on 27th

[1:15:49] terrace that might like to speak on the topic.

[1:15:56] Also, we have Tom Green from Keith Engineering,

[1:16:03] was here except the project and give a presentation

[1:16:05] on preliminary engineering plans that were conducted

[1:16:08] and to answer any questions that you might have.

[1:16:13] I would ask Tom come up before we get started.

[1:16:15] Give his presentation.

[1:16:24] >> Thank you.

[1:16:25] Good evening, Mayor, Commission.

[1:16:34] Tom green with-- the requested by the city to look

[1:16:38] at the feasibility of installing the sidewalk on 27th terrace

[1:16:41] with a focus on trying to install on the east side.

[1:16:56] >> It's up and down.

[1:17:14] >> All right.

[1:17:15] To put this in context, we're focused on 27th terrace.

[1:17:16] The site map is showing identifying the location

[1:17:16] of the potential project.

[1:17:16] And our goal is to look at a very high conceptual level,

[1:17:16] is it feasible to install this and not focus on the east side

[1:17:18] of 27th terrace.

[1:17:20] And we went out there and looked at existing conditions

[1:17:23] as you make your way from left to right.

[1:17:25] You're really working away from South and Oracle.

[1:17:29] That's at the intersection of 39th and then advancing your way

[1:17:32] toward -- as you looked at it, we came up with this conceptual

[1:17:50] plan.

[1:17:51] What you're looking on the screen

[1:17:51] is a concept plan at the top.

[1:17:51] It's the sections at the bottom.

[1:17:51] There are a lot of above ground impediments,

[1:17:51] as I flashed back to the previous slide.

[1:17:51] You can really see that highlighted

[1:17:51] in the bottom in the middle.

[1:17:52] Either utility poles or the nice existing tree canopy

[1:17:58] and other things that we want to avoid as we

[1:18:00] install the sidewalk.

[1:18:01] In this concept plan in the green areas

[1:18:04] we're trying to keep a minimum of a six foot setback

[1:18:09] for the front face of the sidewalk

[1:18:11] from the back edge of the curve, or the edge of the pavement.

[1:18:14] And we see it delineated in yellow.

[1:18:16] That's where the sidewalk is now hugging closer

[1:18:18] to the edge of the road.

[1:18:19] And now we're separating pedestrians

[1:18:20] from the traffic with the-- if you

[1:18:36] look at the bottom of the screen for the typical section

[1:18:38] on the left hand side, that is your curb condition

[1:18:38] and on the bottom right hand side, that

[1:18:38] is your on current condition.

[1:18:38] We're keeping our daily six foot setback

[1:18:38] for the base of the sidewalk.

[1:18:38] And as we advance further north, you

[1:18:40] can see that the sidewalk meanders slightly.

[1:18:42] The goal was trying to create that setback.

[1:18:45] And that's really for drainage purposes.

[1:18:47] Once we introduce a gutter condition,

[1:18:51] you have water that's running down the edge of the curb.

[1:18:54] Without a lot of existing drainage infrastructure,

[1:18:57] there's potential for a spread.

[1:19:00] We don't want to interrupt existing service on the roadway

[1:19:05] by introducing this improvements.

[1:19:07] So we can take advantage of existing grass conditions.

[1:19:27] (Indiscernible)-- and then just to put this into perspective,

[1:19:29] these are the two typical sections that we previously

[1:19:30] showed.

[1:19:30] The one at the top of the screen is your-- this would be an ideal

[1:19:46] location where you can have some minimum setback from the edge

[1:19:49] of the roadway and installed --

[1:19:49] on the bottom of the screen you can see where

[1:19:49] because of existing landscaping, just not

[1:19:49] wanting to create a lot of upsets or additional costs

[1:19:50] for this, and really trying to maintain additional landscaping

[1:19:53] where feasible.

[1:19:54] We introduced that and where the driveways are that's

[1:19:58] where it goes down to create that condition.

[1:20:01] It continues through and once you're past the driveway

[1:20:03] connection, that's where it starts to flare back up and you

[1:20:07] --

[1:20:08] >> Can I ask a question?

[1:20:21] Where the back of that car is where the driveway is,

[1:20:23] the sidewalk is going to go down and then come back up again?

[1:20:26] >> I'm going to point to the screen.

[1:20:32] It's a little hard to see.

[1:20:33] At the very bottom of the screen,

[1:20:33] you can see where the curb is raised above your gutter.

[1:20:33] As you approach the driveway, it starts to layer down

[1:20:33] to create that position.

[1:20:34] So your car is not popping over the curb at the driveway.

[1:20:37] And once you get past the driveway curbs,

[1:20:39] the curb starts to--

[1:20:55] >> I'm more concerned about the sidewalk than the driveway.

[1:20:57] If you're going down the driveway in a wheelchair,

[1:20:57] or you're walking in your handicap,

[1:20:58] you're gonna go down and then come back up again?

[1:21:09] >> Again, let me jump back to these conceptual plans.

[1:21:14] Without actual survey done, this is at a very high concept level.

[1:21:17] It is feasible to install.

[1:21:17] Everything we're talking about is going

[1:21:17] to be the Ada requirements.

[1:21:17] In terms of your running, not exceeding a 5%.

[1:21:17] In terms of your cross loop not exceeding at 2%,

[1:21:19] everything has to be done to meet that Ada requirements

[1:21:22] and be Ada compliant.

[1:21:24] >> You're saying it is feasible to build and be based upon--

[1:21:44] >> Yes, it is feasible.

[1:21:46] And when the survey comes in, it's really important

[1:21:46] because you're fighting for fractions of an inch

[1:21:46] to come hit these tolerances.

[1:21:47] Everything you built, it's not designed for 2%.

[1:21:50] It's designed for 1.5%.

[1:22:06] >> And some sections are going to be conceptually or feet

[1:22:09] and some would be six feet -- it's to make it wider where it

[1:22:09] can be wider?

[1:22:09] You ideally want to maintain a five foot wide sidewalk.

[1:22:11] A lot of what we follow is the-- existing conditions

[1:22:26] really tell the picture of what we're up against.

[1:22:28] It's kind of a tricky lift in order

[1:22:28] to make all of this happen.

[1:22:29] >> In the bottom right, in some conditions,

[1:22:37] where you cannot achieve that five foot width,

[1:22:38] and there's existing above ground impediments that cannot

[1:22:38] move or feasible to move, dot contemplates getting down

[1:22:39] to a minimum width.

[1:22:40] So I believe it could be a skinny as about 36 inch

[1:22:44] wide sidewalk.

[1:22:45] Our goal is to maintain a continuous five foot width.

[1:22:49] Once you get into the survey, (Indiscernible)--

[1:23:07] I'm going to end on these conditions.

[1:23:08] This is what the conditions look like.

[1:23:10] And this is a very high level at the feasibility standpoint.

[1:23:13] And we can take advantage of the natural circulation

[1:23:17] and try to take advantage of the green space.

[1:23:40] >> Any questions for Mr. Green?

[1:23:42] >> Thank you very much.

[1:23:53] >> Before we discuss anything, do we want to invite people up?

[1:24:00] Are there any residents here?

[1:24:09] >> Good evening.

[1:24:10] My name is Dalia.

[1:24:10] I'm a resident on 27th terrace on the east side.

[1:24:10] Also a member of the yacht club.

[1:24:10] When this issue came up two years ago,

[1:24:10] there was significant opposition to this project

[1:24:13] for multiple reasons.

[1:24:22] Number one, creating a sidewalk for people

[1:24:24] who are walking their dogs, it doesn't

[1:24:24] eliminate the high speed traffic that

[1:24:24] is going up and down the road.

[1:24:24] Putting in a sidewalk does not help the speeding issue.

[1:24:24] It doesn't help provide safety.

[1:24:26] People are doing e-bikes, scooters.

[1:24:28] They're going to be using the sidewalk.

[1:24:30] There's sidewalks all through Lighthouse Point

[1:24:32] that are not used, people are still using the street.

[1:24:35] So to put it in a sidewalk and destroy seven driveways

[1:24:38] that are affected.

[1:24:39] There are seven homes that have pavers and driveways that

[1:24:41] are going to be affected by this project.

[1:24:43] The one that you saw there was my home with a circular driveway

[1:24:47] and three royal palms that are 40 years old.

[1:24:49] There's no way to maintain those royal palms with the sidewalk

[1:24:52] that you proposed.

[1:24:57] Period.

[1:25:01] And that's not fair to the homeowners

[1:25:08] that lined the street to get rid of their property to destroy it.

[1:25:10] I get that it's an easement, but this is not a public works

[1:25:11] project.

[1:25:11] This is not necessary.

[1:25:11] So you can put in the speed bumps.

[1:25:11] We can put in eliminated speed limit sign.

[1:25:12] You can decrease the speed limit,

[1:25:14] but this is not necessary.

[1:25:15] There's no way that we talk to our person who maintains our.

[1:25:18] There's no way to maintain the royal palms

[1:25:21] with this demonstration.

[1:25:23] And we were not polled.

[1:25:39] Nobody came to us and asked us if we were in favor of this

[1:25:43] or not.

[1:25:43] That's number one.

[1:25:43] And our neighbors have also said the same thing.

[1:25:43] So we got an AI demonstration afterwards saying,

[1:25:43] from whoever came by they said, this

[1:25:43] is what we're proposing to do.

[1:25:44] But we weren't told to say are you in favor of this,

[1:25:47] or are you in opposition of this?

[1:25:48] That didn't happen.

[1:25:50] The root point is that creating a sidewalk

[1:25:54] doesn't solve the problem of the speed limit.

[1:25:58] So you can do things to affect the speed,

[1:26:01] and whatever is in the development's agreement

[1:26:04] to affect the speed.

[1:26:05] You can mark that money for that.

[1:26:08] Seven driveways that are going to be

[1:26:10] affected by this, that is significant and affects property

[1:26:13] value.

[1:26:13] And who's going to be legally responsible for when

[1:26:16] there's drainage issues?

[1:26:17] When they scrub the pipes underneath our homes?

[1:26:20] When we have problems?

[1:26:22] Who's going to be liable for?

[1:26:23] The city?

[1:26:42] >> That's a legal issue if it happens.

[1:26:46] >> It needs to be considered because there's a lot of homes

[1:26:46] that are involved here.

[1:26:47] To put something in for esthetics, that doesn't work.

[1:26:58] >> I understand.

[1:27:00] Anybody else?

[1:27:03] Anybody online that would like to address this issue?

[1:27:17] >> Yes, he's able to speak now.

[1:27:21] >> Hi, can you hear me?

[1:27:24] >> Name and address, please.

[1:27:30] >> (Indiscernible)--

[1:27:31] >> Go for it.

[1:27:33] >> (Indiscernible)

[1:28:02] >> Thank you very much.

[1:28:05] Sir.

[1:28:08] >> David Mangold, 4001 Northeast 27th terrace, lighthouse point.

[1:28:17] Can you tell me how many units are planned

[1:28:18] to be built at the Yacht Club?

[1:28:29] >> 22.

[1:28:33] >> 21 townhomes, 1 single family home.

[1:28:41] >> 22.

[1:28:42] Let's say they had 22 cars each.

[1:28:42] They might have three.

[1:28:42] Let's say two cars for each.

[1:28:43] That's 44 additional people coming and going,

[1:28:48] one or more times, every day.

[1:28:55] Are they planning on building a restaurant?

[1:28:57] I was a member of the Yacht Club for years.

[1:28:57] We enjoyed going to the restaurant there.

[1:28:59] Do you know if they're going to build restaurants?

[1:29:12] >> Yes, a very nice one.

[1:29:16] >> So there is that traffic.

[1:29:17] And then they'll have a few tennis courts remaining.

[1:29:17] There's that traffic.

[1:29:17] And then they have the boats.

[1:29:18] The slips.

[1:29:20] A lot of traffic.

[1:29:31] It's really too bad that somebody can't force the issue

[1:29:34] of using 30th Avenue as an additional entry point.

[1:29:36] And just think during construction

[1:29:39] of, A, the sidewalk, and B, when they're bulldozing and building

[1:29:50] in the yacht club.

[1:29:51] Think about the dump trucks.

[1:29:57] >> Several years ago, it was all considered.

[1:30:01] We are where we are.

[1:30:02] Trust me, I was there.

[1:30:07] >> Well, let's hope the people and the children remain safe

[1:30:10] on that street for years to come.

[1:30:17] >> Thank you.

[1:30:22] Anybody else?

[1:30:26] Commissioners, I know where I want to start on this one.

[1:30:31] I remember that fateful day in 2023 when we first

[1:30:33] discussed this certain handsome young gentleman out there

[1:30:33] in the audience who came up here,

[1:30:36] bright eyed and bushy tailed, addressed this commission

[1:30:47] on this topic.

[1:30:56] >> My view has not changed on it.

[1:30:57] I've been vocal about that.

[1:30:57] Just for the safety of the people that are on 27th terrace,

[1:31:00] put in the peninsula of the area where the mayor livers,

[1:31:13] many of the residents.

[1:31:14] To Mr. Mann point, the traffic is going to increase.

[1:31:14] It's a dark street.

[1:31:14] Traffic coming out at night--

[1:31:30] I think sidewalks are great.

[1:31:31] I guess my question would be the time frame.

[1:31:33] Because this is just a conceptual--

[1:31:52] where do we go from here?

[1:31:55] >> First thing we do is we need to get direction --

[1:32:06] (Indiscernible)--

[1:32:33] >> And at plan doesn't affect any trees anywhere on 27th

[1:32:36] terrace? (Indiscernible) --

[1:32:48] >> The goal with the design is we're trying to eliminate any

[1:32:51] impacts to the trees.

[1:32:51] I can't definitively say that without having a survey,

[1:32:51] but that is the goal.

[1:32:52] We hug the curb where it's not feasible.

[1:33:01] We try and maintain that five foot width,

[1:33:03] which would be ideal to make that a continuous route

[1:33:03] around that entire corridor.

[1:33:03] That's the nuts and bolts of what

[1:33:03] we get into as we start getting that excerpt information,

[1:33:03] getting a detailed design.

[1:33:03] No elimination of trees is the goal of this project.

[1:33:04] Is to maintain existing canopies.

[1:33:06] Maintain existing landscape where feasible.

[1:33:31] >> Anything else?

[1:33:32] >> Is that street slope towards the yacht club?

[1:33:44] >> There's some areas where it does slope down I can't remember

[1:33:46] off the top of my head.

[1:33:47] One of those streets you do have two catch basins

[1:33:50] that collect on the north and south side of that intersecting

[1:33:52] street.

[1:33:52] I want to say around 40th.

[1:33:52] Everything's going to be sloping more towards that

[1:33:52] as your whole point.

[1:33:52] And from there it heads south towards 39th.

[1:33:52] Some stuff flows from the yacht club down to 40th.

[1:33:55] It pitch is midway by adjoining street

[1:33:56] and collects in catch basin, and it's typically back to 39.

[1:34:01] We get into that with the survey to see actual patterns.

[1:34:24] >> And there's outfall into the canal--

[1:34:27] >> On the two on 40th, they do collect.

[1:34:29] I believe they go into infrastructure

[1:34:29] on the west side of the road, then it does go under the canal.

[1:34:29] There's another catch basin on the west side

[1:34:29] of the intersection of 27th and 39th.

[1:34:29] You'd have an existing catch basin there as well.

[1:34:31] I'm not sure exactly where that one falls.

[1:34:50] >> What I'm thinking is if less impact on everybody and make --

[1:34:53] you curb the street on that side,

[1:34:57] and now the water would end up in the catch basin if you have

[1:35:05] to make the outfall pipe bigger (Indiscernible)--

[1:35:21] and then it can maintain its own width at that point all the way

[1:35:24] through.

[1:35:25] Would that be something that might

[1:35:29] be advantageous to look at?

[1:35:35] >> Yes, and no.

[1:35:36] Can I say that not to be flipped in that it creates

[1:35:38] one continuous sidewalk.

[1:35:38] One continuous condition down the street.

[1:35:38] Knowing that everywhere we're trying

[1:35:38] to peel the sidewalk off the road or areas

[1:35:38] where there's runway to do it.

[1:35:38] If you hug everything against the edge of the road

[1:35:38] and create that curb condition, I

[1:35:40] need a place to put that storm water.

[1:35:59] It's really analyzing from a drainage standpoint.

[1:36:01] I can't impact level of service for the residents.

[1:36:01] Now we have to analyze and see what

[1:36:01] does that curb condition do, and purposely ran

[1:36:01] on the side of the road and do I need new drainage

[1:36:01] infrastructure?

[1:36:01] And then that introduces the capital cost

[1:36:03] of them putting in the drainage infrastructure.

[1:36:05] And then permitting and making sure that that

[1:36:07] can tie into the existing outfall.

[1:36:10] Anything is feasible. (Indiscernible)--

[1:36:32] >> I guess the original question was,

[1:36:33] because it all flowed towards the yacht club?

[1:36:33] It doesn't end up there.

[1:36:34] >> It doesn't go from 39 to the Yacht Club pier its ups

[1:36:42] and Downs.

[1:36:43] That's what I'm saying on 40th you do have some existing

[1:36:43] drainage infrastructure that collects on that water that goes

[1:36:45] to the low point.

[1:36:47] And then it looks like it's getting collected at 39th under

[1:36:58] 39th Street.

[1:37:04] >> I am a dog mom.

[1:37:08] I walk my dog every night after work.

[1:37:10] I see tons of my neighbors walking their dogs.

[1:37:10] The majority of them use the sidewalk.

[1:37:10] Anytime I see a street light that doesn't have a sidewalk,

[1:37:10] it doesn't give dog walkers, joggers the opportunity

[1:37:13] to get out of the line of traffic.

[1:37:15] And if we're talking about increased traffic to an area,

[1:37:37] I think we need to do what's best for the residents

[1:37:39] and put the sidewalks in.

[1:37:54] >> Sidewalks are always safer.

[1:37:55] That's what it comes down to.

[1:37:55] That's why we have a right of way.

[1:37:56] >> My question is financial.

[1:38:02] It sounds like this will proceed if they push forward

[1:38:04] on its own track, independent of the development of the yacht

[1:38:15] Club.

[1:38:15] Are we fronting the money?

[1:38:16] >> The development agreement that we--

[1:38:24] >> So we can move (Indiscernible)--

[1:38:29] Again, I think this is an amenity.

[1:38:32] The yacht club has agreed to contribute to it.

[1:38:34] I don't see why we wouldn't take this amenity that will help

[1:38:34] many residents in the area.

[1:38:35] My thought is to move forward.

[1:38:50] Do we have consensus there?

[1:38:56] >> I agree.

[1:38:59] >> All aboard?

[1:39:01] >> If you're comfortable with the consensus rather than a full

[1:39:01] motion, then we'll take the consensus and move

[1:39:03] on to the next step.

[1:39:11] >> (Indiscernible)--

[1:39:16] >> I will say the one resident that was not in favor of it

[1:39:19] raised good points about--

[1:39:24] I do it respectfully a little bit differently.

[1:39:26] Definitely doesn't solve the traffic problem.

[1:39:28] It is another tool that will alleviate problems.

[1:39:38] Moving people from the streets if you

[1:39:40] have concerns about speeding and new cars--

[1:39:46] it will hopefully alleviate those issues.

[1:39:47] Which I think is what we had discussed when we contemplated.

[1:39:47] In addition to the other traffic calming features.

[1:39:47] Moving on.

[1:39:47] New business.

[1:39:47] Motion to approve the expenditure

[1:39:49] of funds for municipal tree trimming services.

[1:39:54] Operational Manager.

[1:40:20] >> Good evening.

[1:40:21] That's the motion to approve the expenditure of funds

[1:40:21] for municipal tree trimming service.

[1:40:21] On the June 23rd, 2020 six, city Commission meeting city

[1:40:21] anonymously approved resolution number 26-27-32 authorizing

[1:40:25] agreements-- there's currently $109,000 remaining in the fiscal

[1:40:45] year 2025 and 2026 general fund maintenance contracts to count.

[1:40:52] We recommend the city's commission authorize

[1:40:54] the expenditure of funds in the amount of approximately up

[1:40:54] to $100,000 for the general fund for this fiscal year of tree

[1:40:54] trimming.

[1:40:54] Which I don't know if you've seen around the city recently,

[1:40:57] City Hall, Dixon Hall, police department was done today.

[1:41:09] It's all part of a separate contract.

[1:41:10] This is going to be throughout the city.

[1:41:12] We've already identified 16 spots

[1:41:14] that we want to immediately get to.

[1:41:19] Just don't want to keep coming back every time

[1:41:21] and ask for money and do POS.

[1:41:23] We can just do a continuous up to that amount.

[1:41:32] >> Can we get a motion?

[1:41:39] >> I'm sorry, I was looking at the resolution.

[1:41:44] >> We're going to do $100,000 worth of tree trimming?

[1:41:51] >> I'm planning on having crews here starting on Friday.

[1:41:54] I've got estimates for about 16 areas.

[1:41:56] About $72,000.

[1:41:56] And then I want to get the side streets.

[1:41:56] We're doing maintenance right now

[1:41:56] from Federal Highway on Lighthouse Point

[1:41:57] Drive to the City Limited.

[1:41:59] 39th Street of Sample Road.

[1:42:08] Which we probably haven't done federal highway in 5 or 6 years.

[1:42:11] Have you read the Federal Highway,

[1:42:11] you can see what needs to be done.

[1:42:11] That's all part of the third phase of this third project

[1:42:11] we want to start.

[1:42:11] And with the remainder money, before the 1st of October,

[1:42:25] I want to get a lot of the side streets where we can keep that

[1:42:27] 15 foot clearance and eight foot clearance over the sidewalks.

[1:42:30] Hopefully before October 1st, we'll spend $100,000.

[1:42:43] >> And then you'll come and ask for more?

[1:42:45] >> Trees continue to grow.

[1:42:48] >> This is for any tree that's hanging over into city property?

[1:42:51] >> All of our trees right now over point drive,

[1:42:54] state law requires 13 to 14 foot clearance.

[1:42:55] We're going to go to 15 just so we don't have to continuously

[1:42:55] cut month after month.

[1:42:56] >> Just on Lighthouse Point Drive?

[1:43:08] >> No, our main point is going to be Lighthouse Point Drive.

[1:43:12] We haven't done that in probably 6 or 7 years.

[1:43:12] When somebody calls and complaints,

[1:43:12] that's when we go out and cut that area to the height.

[1:43:12] We want to try to alleviate that now.

[1:43:12] Got a maintenance schedule now that we

[1:43:12] have a tree trimming company, which we've never

[1:43:12] had in the city before.

[1:43:13] We've never had a contracted tree company.

[1:43:18] We want to start a maintenance program with them

[1:43:20] to where they can come through and identify it, make

[1:43:22] sure we're in agreement with it and approve it to get it cut.

[1:43:42] We will get to side streets.

[1:43:43] Our main purpose and the main thing right

[1:43:45] now is things that haven't been done in 6 or 7 years.

[1:43:47] And to get to that state level, state law where it needs to be.

[1:44:01] >> a canopy is nice and provides shade.

[1:44:04] I'm thinking of 49.

[1:44:05] Can you trim those in a way that keeps the dome?

[1:44:07] >> I want to say this in a nice way.

[1:44:26] [Laughter] We are going to try and shape those trees that FP&L

[1:44:34] has destroyed over the years to where we can keep

[1:44:36] the canopy of that area and the esthetics of how you drive

[1:44:36] through it, looking like it's a canopy type area driving

[1:44:38] through, but reshaped the trees at the same time for the damage

[1:44:47] they have done to them.

[1:44:48] And we are going to continue to try to do that.

[1:44:50] >> I'm not a tree cutter.

[1:44:54] And as I've said many times up here,

[1:44:55] I'm not good at visualizing these types of things.

[1:44:55] I could visualize them, can I keep going back to 49th Street

[1:44:55] where you almost maintain the 15ft.

[1:44:55] I know we're not talking about 49th Street yet,

[1:44:56] but you've got to cut a hole in the canopy to get the clearance.

[1:44:59] Is that at least feasible that we might have to do that?

[1:45:01] >> We're going to do the best we can to keep the canopy

[1:45:21] of the trees at the 15 foot.

[1:45:29] As long --

[1:45:34] >> As long as it's contemplated.

[1:45:36] You know everybody's going to go crazy once they

[1:45:42] see cutting these trees.

[1:45:47] >> It's been long overdue.

[1:45:48] >> The idea is we're trying to get up before our major

[1:45:52] hurricane season portion, cleaning out of it.

[1:45:57] And we got a real storm here with the window,

[1:46:06] less opportunity for them to--

[1:46:09] >> There some trees on Lighthouse Point Drive now that

[1:46:11] the county has brought to our attention that need to be

[1:46:11] removed.

[1:46:14] They are dead.

[1:46:20] They're hollow on the inside from diseases

[1:46:22] and everything else over the years.

[1:46:23] They're going to allow us to cut those down.

[1:46:29] >> They're mostly the Laurel Oaks that have a 50 year shelf

[1:46:32] life.

[1:46:32] Those Laurel oaks have less of a lifespan than a regular oak

[1:46:32] tree.

[1:46:32] It sounds crazy, but it may look very similar

[1:46:32] to you can tell there's a difference in them.

[1:46:32] Those are the ones that are having those rotting issues.

[1:46:34] And you can see that the house right between 33rd,

[1:46:58] I call it the Blue tree because it has a little flower on it.

[1:47:07] >> And you just come out and test them?

[1:47:14] >> (Indiscernible)-- I promise you Jim will do what he can do

[1:47:17] within his power because the county will be watching.

[1:47:19] >> So the ones that come down, that's going to get done first

[1:47:32] before we spend the money on that first?

[1:47:33] >> They're going to be part of the Lighthouse Point drive part,

[1:47:45] which those are the trees already causing sidewalk

[1:47:48] problems, roadway issues.

[1:47:52] It's their time to go.

[1:47:58] Any questions?

[1:48:00] >> So the trees that they're planting in the swells over

[1:48:02] the sidewalks, that's the city's responsibility?

[1:48:10] >> Again, I'll try to say it in a nice way.

[1:48:18] A lot of trees years ago had to be planted.

[1:48:24] The city got in trouble a long time ago

[1:48:25] for cutting too many trees down.

[1:48:25] They were told they had to put trees back in.

[1:48:26] That's where all these trees came from.

[1:48:26] I think there were thousands of trees that had to be replanted.

[1:48:26] They were put in the right of way.

[1:48:26] Wherever we had room to do that.

[1:48:26] And those that are the ones that are going

[1:48:26] to come back to harm us now.

[1:48:28] The tree right away, trees in right of ways,

[1:48:49] some are allowed and some aren't.

[1:48:51] The ones that we are allowing now,

[1:48:53] it's put into the homeowner.

[1:48:53] That is their true.

[1:48:53] Anything happens in their right of way,

[1:48:53] they're responsible for any city projects

[1:48:55] that might be in that right of way that's caused by that tree.

[1:48:58] They are going to be retired.

[1:49:11] Required to fix those issues.

[1:49:12] There are agreements and letters assigned to that.

[1:49:15] >> Can I get a motion?

[1:49:23] >> I'll make a motion to approve the expenditures of up

[1:49:26] to $200,000 from the General Fund for municipal tree trimming

[1:49:31] services.

[1:49:35] >> Second.

[1:49:37] >> All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

[1:49:44] Motion passes 4-0.

[1:49:47] >> You said we're going to have a tree trimming service

[1:49:49] tomorrow?

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[1:50:20] Resolution approving the First Amendment (Facilities Amendment)

[1:50:23] to the Interlocal Agreement for Solid Waste Disposal

[1:50:23] and Recyclable Materials Processing

[1:50:24] Authority of Broward County.

[1:50:27] >> (Indiscernible)-- Approval of the facilities amendment

[1:50:51] represents the final step.

[1:50:57] Confirming the city's participation in the Broward's

[1:51:12] Holloway's authority for 40 year term

[1:51:14] extended through August 2063.

[1:51:18] Based on the ILA effective date of August 16th, 2020.

[1:51:35] (Indiscernible)-- there's a companion second amendment

[1:51:38] on this agenda that provides participating municipalities.

[1:51:41] Two opportunities to withdraw from (Indiscernible)--

[1:51:46] the first opportunity following the recommendation of the--

[1:51:55] November of 2027.

[1:51:56] The second opportunity is available after 25 years

[1:51:58] in August 2048.

[1:52:09] It should be noted that for 2027, opt out provisions

[1:52:11] are no longer contingent upon the maximum service

[1:52:13] charges proposed by the disposal processing facilities--

[1:52:21] before deciding whether to remain in the (Indiscernible)--

[1:52:31] facilities must be approved and returned to-- no later than this

[1:52:34] Friday August 14th.

[1:52:35] The estimated fiscal impact that the city of Lighthouse Point

[1:52:37] of participating in the solid waste--

[1:52:42] it's approximately 12,561.20 dollars For fiscal year 2027.

[1:53:07] (Indiscernible)-- intended to provide long term cost

[1:53:09] predictability while supporting regional solid waste disposal

[1:53:17] recycling.

[1:53:19] Approval of the Second Amendment does not

[1:53:21] create any additional direct fiscal impact

[1:53:21] and provides the city with future withdrawal options.

[1:53:21] Following the authority's initial procurement process,

[1:53:21] in 2027 and again in 2048.

[1:53:21] Requesting that the City Commission consider approving

[1:53:23] the resolution contingent on all of the participating cities,

[1:53:48] approving the revised Second Amendment Pier adopting the --

[1:53:56] (Indiscernible).

[1:53:58] I want to bring one more issue to your attention

[1:53:58] before I turn this over to you.

[1:53:58] I had a recent meeting at the Spring City Commission

[1:54:00] solid waste Authority--

[1:54:12] Representatives were asked about possible extensions for the RFP

[1:54:14] process that could potentially affect the opt out date

[1:54:14] in the Second Amendment.

[1:54:14] The solid Waste Authority reiterated that Friday August

[1:54:17] 15th deadline for approval of the Facilities Agreement--

[1:54:29] and the Council explained that the Second Amendment was

[1:54:34] intended to provide flexibility to opt out.

[1:54:35] Equity RFP to recommended -- the way the amendment is currently

[1:54:49] drafted, the executive Committee has to recommend an award

[1:54:52] by November 15th of 2027.

[1:54:52] The provision of concern is that if there is a need

[1:54:54] to extend the process, the governing Board

[1:55:03] can approve extensions by six month increments.

[1:55:05] Solid Waste Authority counsel advised

[1:55:05] that there is likely to be a third Amendment

[1:55:07] to include changes related to governance,

[1:55:14] but will also include a finite extension period.

[1:55:16] Should that be the appetite of the executive and the governing

[1:55:18] board.

[1:55:19] After the discussion, the city of Coral Springs

[1:55:28] in the City Commission did approve the amendments.

[1:55:34] So I know we have some representatives here

[1:55:36] that can speak about this issue in the potential for a Third

[1:55:38] Amendment and the timing of any possible extensions

[1:55:47] (Indiscernible)--

[1:55:48] and then we turn it over to you to discuss and make

[1:55:50] a determination.

[1:55:59] >> Do you want to hear from the representatives first?

[1:56:01] Is someone going to make a motion to?

[1:56:03] >> I'll make a motion to read.

[1:56:10] >> Second.

[1:56:11] >> (Indiscernible)-- this resolution does provide that

[1:56:20] the approval of this specific amendment is contingent

[1:56:22] on the Second Amendment also being approved.

[1:56:22] That has to be approved unanimously by all cities.

[1:56:22] So that is a condition that that segment be approved and put

[1:56:22] into effect.

[1:56:22] >> I believe all cities have approved the Second amendment.

[1:56:47] >> There may be one more. (Indiscernible)--

[1:57:03] >> Any questions?

[1:57:08] >> I have a comment.

[1:57:09] When they gave presentation, a lot of this

[1:57:17] depends on recycling.

[1:57:18] I know that I've continually try to get people to recycle.

[1:57:21] I believe that if we agree this and to go there, we as a city

[1:57:23] need to really get people involved in a recycling.

[1:57:36] On the way out today, my section of the city was being picked up,

[1:57:43] and probably 10 to 12 or maybe 15% of the houses

[1:57:46] didn't have recycling cans out.

[1:57:47] I think that we need to as a city

[1:57:52] have code enforcement while they are

[1:57:53] in and around the city on the trash days

[1:57:53] that recycling is being picked up.

[1:57:55] Make note of the houses that don't have recycling.

[1:58:11] And then through some kind of nice , why don't you do this,

[1:58:24] letter communication with those residents.

[1:58:26] Maybe they don't have cans.

[1:58:26] Maybe they don't pay attention.

[1:58:26] Maybe they don't care.

[1:58:26] But maybe we try to make some cares

[1:58:26] so we can get more recycling numbers up

[1:58:26] to where they need to be.

[1:58:26] I think that's very important.

[1:58:26] I think the presentation that was given was a lot about that,

[1:58:28] having to have recycling.

[1:58:33] That is my spiel.

[1:58:50] Voting for it was fine.

[1:58:51] I think that we need to as a city

[1:58:51] try to get people to recycle more than they do.

[1:58:51] I know my neighbor across the street said, I don't do that.

[1:58:51] Why don't you do that?

[1:58:51] It's the right thing to do.

[1:58:52] He puts cardboard.

[1:59:16] >> I said I'm sure a new tax will make him recycle even more.

[1:59:19] >> Maybe.

[1:59:22] He probably doesn't care.

[1:59:27] I go by this one house constantly

[1:59:28] and they have boxes out, but they don't have a recycling can.

[1:59:28] Maybe they just don't have one, but they

[1:59:28] constantly put cardboard boxes out and put them in the can.

[1:59:28] That's a little thing that we should really

[1:59:30] start to try to do.

[1:59:31] And to not put more work on code enforcement, but it's around

[1:59:48] and they see this and make note of that.

[1:59:49] And I'm sure we have somebody on staff that

[1:59:51] can make a nice letter and say, could you help us out here?

[2:00:01] We're trying to do the right thing.

[2:00:03] That's what I've got.

[2:00:04] >> I guess I should have a question.

[2:00:15] The first year, the fiscal amounts estimated at 12561.

[2:00:24] >> Correct.

[2:00:25] >> The opt out is in 27 before the next amount we know is going

[2:00:28] to be-- does that make sense?

[2:00:31] >> It's going to be around the same time that it's coming out.

[2:00:36] >> So we won't be able to opt out for 25 years after that?

[2:00:38] >> Correct.

[2:00:38] >> I guess my concern would be that we really don't know

[2:00:38] the true financial impact after the first year.

[2:00:40] >> I'm the executive director for Broward--

[2:00:52] I want to apologize for the last time I came here.

[2:00:54] I was always on board with the Solid Waste Authority.

[2:00:54] I didn't even know Commissioner Stafford.

[2:00:54] I just want to let you know that the Second

[2:00:55] Amendment, and Commissioner Stafford

[2:00:55] has been very instrumental on the governing board for us.

[2:00:55] The Second Amendment came about from the conversation

[2:00:55] that happened here at Lighthouse Point.

[2:00:56] A small as you said it is, it was instrumental in bringing

[2:00:59] about the Second Amendment because you

[2:01:01] guys were the ones who talked about having

[2:01:02] a way to get out of this.

[2:01:04] It was drafted up to come up with a way to get out.

[2:01:27] Anyway, You're talking about the dollar amount and the surcharge

[2:01:31] and how much that's going to cost.

[2:01:42] When you join the authority, You signed the First Amendment

[2:01:45] and the Second Amendment.

[2:01:46] You start enjoying the rates that you are receiving.

[2:01:46] What you receive right now, that's

[2:01:46] part of the global agreement.

[2:01:47] You'll continue to be able to-- and if they're

[2:01:58] different than that, you can say we

[2:02:00] don't want to be part of this.

[2:02:01] Southwest ranches are part of the global agreement. $87 a ton.

[2:02:01] If you take that, you're paying $87 a ton.

[2:02:03] If you take that difference, and their bulk weight--

[2:02:19] if you were paying Southwest ranch--

[2:02:30] you would be paying about $220,000 a year more.

[2:02:32] Based on their rates.

[2:02:32] I'm not saying that's a scare you or anything.

[2:02:32] That's the reality of it.

[2:02:33] Say it could cost you 15,000 or so more a year,

[2:02:50] that's versus $200,000 if you're paying what southwest ranches

[2:02:52] paying right now.

[2:02:53] Miami Dade is average $84 a ton for MSW.

[2:02:55] 49, that's what the global agreement is.

[2:03:07] That's the maximum service charges.

[2:03:08] We're hoping to get and more likely to get for the MSW.

[2:03:08] That cost will be offset by the savings

[2:03:08] that you're going to get by a large factor.

[2:03:08] That in itself, you look at how much it's going to cost you,

[2:03:08] you'll be able to get that back.

[2:03:09] And you will see that rate come back.

[2:03:10] If that rate is $87 when it comes back to you,

[2:03:20] this is-- that's what the opt out will

[2:03:38] be able to allow you to do.

[2:03:43] >> Anything else?

[2:03:44] I just had a lot of reservations about this.

[2:03:46] The free peak is tempting for me.

[2:03:46] I call it the free peak at the rates.

[2:03:46] I spent a lot of time on the master plan after we met.

[2:03:50] I'm articulating this so you can carry it to the group

[2:03:53] or whatever.

[2:03:54] In the spirit of actually trying to make this work.

[2:04:00] I'm not in favor of it.

[2:04:23] That master plan, if I read it right

[2:04:25] then I know you didn't draft it.

[2:04:26] If I could boil it down, it said of these three options, here

[2:04:32] is the best option to try and get to 75%

[2:04:34] recycling, which is the goal.

[2:04:35] What it doesn't say-- but it basically says is here's

[2:04:49] the most likely way to achieve an objective,

[2:04:51] but nowhere I've seen in all of the years

[2:04:54] that these bodies have spent doing

[2:04:55] it is any analysis as to whether that objective is

[2:04:55] achievable at all.

[2:04:55] Just 75% is to kind of unleash this.

[2:04:57] I know you're going to tell me it's not a big organization.

[2:05:01] It's something as monumental as this, with basically signing

[2:05:11] on to something where we would potentially be letting

[2:05:13] other cities have a say in obligating

[2:05:13] the city of Lighthouse Point on the future

[2:05:13] with how we deal with our trash, other expensive infrastructure

[2:05:16] that might be needed to achieve the 75%.

[2:05:39] Without some experts telling me that the objective,

[2:05:41] as noble as it may be, and I do not agree with the objective,

[2:05:44] is feasible or likely to happen.

[2:05:44] That's a big number.

[2:05:45] We've never seen recycling numbers like that.

[2:05:51] I just can't swallow that pill.

[2:05:56] >> They are close to 90%.

[2:05:59] On Beach County is another one.

[2:06:00] Extremely high.

[2:06:00] Recycling that you're seeing it's

[2:06:00] not the recycling that you're putting out

[2:06:00] in front of your house.

[2:06:01] The big ticket on that recycling is C and D. Construction

[2:06:21] demolition debris.

[2:06:22] What you put in front of your house, that's great.

[2:06:24] >> Construction and demolition debris,

[2:06:28] that's what moves the needle.

[2:06:29] What you put in front of your house is extremely important.

[2:06:29] Don't get me wrong.

[2:06:29] I try to do the best I can.

[2:06:31] I've always done that.

[2:06:38] I was a public works director for many years

[2:06:44] in Broward County.

[2:06:45] I always try to do the.

[2:06:46] >> There's so many assumptions in that master plan to achieve

[2:06:51] that 75%.

[2:06:52] I know you didn't do it.

[2:06:52] There's so many things out of anybody's control..

[2:06:52] Is there going to be a market for this?

[2:06:55] My understanding of that master plan

[2:07:04] is anything that doesn't make it a landfill is recycling.

[2:07:06] We are running out of space.

[2:07:07] But people are talking about waste energy.

[2:07:07] Have you told them waste energy we're going to burn trash,

[2:07:07] they're going to freak out.

[2:07:07] Some people think that's not environmental at all.

[2:07:07] I happen to actually not necessarily disagree with them.

[2:07:08] But that's not necessarily recycling.

[2:07:10] With all due respect, all the time and effort

[2:07:13] that went into the master plan, doesn't have enough meat

[2:07:15] to convince me to obligate.

[2:07:16] And I'm probably in the minority here.

[2:07:44] It was tempting with the peak.

[2:07:47] I need a little more meat on the bone to get their.

[2:07:49] And I really tried to simplify these issues.

[2:07:50] They are very complicated issues.

[2:07:51] Do I have it right--

[2:07:53] I just don't see a big difference between this SWA

[2:08:06] and what we have now with the ILA

[2:08:07] other than these recycling centers.

[2:08:10] That's a lot of money to build recycling centers.

[2:08:14] Again, this is simpleton Jason logic.

[2:08:17] We have enough problems educating people

[2:08:19] to get people to recycle when this stuff's right in front

[2:08:19] of their house.

[2:08:19] I just don't know.

[2:08:25] I take your point about C and D and residential

[2:08:28] and not really moving the needle.

[2:08:29] >> Not as big as the commercial.

[2:08:33] I don't see why all of this is needed

[2:08:34] on the big push was bargaining power

[2:08:45] to take on the big players in this space

[2:08:48] when we had that bargaining power, when we had the ILA.

[2:08:55] You're happy to respond.

[2:08:56] >> A global agreement's going away.

[2:08:58] It expires in 2028.

[2:08:59] Those prices are set by the global agreement.

[2:08:59] Those are the prices we're shooting to.

[2:09:01] >> I understand, but the global agreement wasn't as draconian.

[2:09:08] And it wasn't a draconian as to what

[2:09:09] we're being asked to sign now.

[2:09:09] And I really articulate that because in talking about this

[2:09:09] over the years, I wasn't at the meetings,

[2:09:09] I was never on the board, which I

[2:09:09] couldn't have been on the time.

[2:09:10] I don't feel like there was enough devil's advocate

[2:09:17] on there.

[2:09:27] Maybe I'm wrong.

[2:09:36] I wasn't at the meetings.

[2:09:37] Because the objective is noble.

[2:09:37] We're going to spend so much time and effort on this.

[2:09:39] I just don't know if we know what that goal--

[2:09:44] if that goal is feasible.

[2:09:56] Those are my concerns.

[2:09:57] >> That's your mayor brought up a fishing analogy related

[2:10:00] to fishing the last time, and I thought about that.

[2:10:02] I've had a boat at the Lighthouse Point Marina

[2:10:02] for over ten years.

[2:10:02] I fish a lot and dive a lot.

[2:10:04] I'm a fisherman and a diver, lobsterman, fisherman

[2:10:17] and all that kind of stuff.

[2:10:18] I thought about what you're saying,

[2:10:23] and it's kind of like if you go to Tyler who's the bait guide

[2:10:25] here and everybody goes to Tyler,

[2:10:27] we want to get the best prices we can get for goggle .

[2:10:33] We want to join together and get the best prices for them.

[2:10:37] We're going to go to the lighthouse Point Marina

[2:10:39] and down to the sand.

[2:10:39] We're going to get the best prices we can on gas.

[2:10:39] We're going to get these prices and we're

[2:10:39] going to guarantee these prices, we're

[2:10:39] going to guarantee this there's so many people that

[2:10:39] are going to buy into that.

[2:10:40] And we're going to have X amount of-- we're

[2:10:51] going to buy this much bait from you and this much gas.

[2:11:00] We can get the best prices at this point in time.

[2:11:02] And that's the pricing side of it

[2:11:02] and that's what we're going to be doing

[2:11:02] at disposal and processing.

[2:11:02] But we're also going to say, we're going to.

[2:11:02] We're going to get some seminars,

[2:11:02] we're going to be constantly educating.

[2:11:02] We're going to pay for education for those guys

[2:11:03] and top fishing guys around right now.

[2:11:05] We're only catching about 39% of our recycling.

[2:11:08] 39% of the folks that go out to bring fish back in, we're

[2:11:11] trying to get it to 75%.

[2:11:13] We've heard that those guys come back with 75%.

[2:11:16] We're going to try to get it to where everybody's

[2:11:18] getting 75% by educating, by training people with the best

[2:11:22] people out here to teach them how to fish properly,

[2:11:35] and all the tips and tricks that they can give you.

[2:11:49] These guys always have some tips and tricks.

[2:11:50] The goal is to get the recycling rate up by educating.

[2:11:50] That's really it in a nutshell.

[2:11:50] Educating and get that recycling.

[2:11:52] And by joining in forces from everybody,

[2:12:03] getting a mass amount of people together to go to these disposal

[2:12:07] and processing facilities to get the best rates.

[2:12:09] That's really it.

[2:12:14] >> I thought about that.

[2:12:15] I'm not an economist.

[2:12:16] I have some background from my college days--

[2:12:24] >> You're not a tree trimmer.

[2:12:28] [Laughter]

[2:12:29] >> I have a real debate about it,

[2:12:30] I get the point there's not many players on the supply side,

[2:12:33] all the big garbage companies.

[2:12:38] What a market works well-- for a market to work well and it's--

[2:12:45] I can make the argument by together.

[2:12:47] What are we going to do if of these people come together,

[2:12:54] put this out to bid, and all of these big players

[2:12:57] say give these None of them are acceptable.

[2:12:57] We're gonna to go with one of them.

[2:12:57] Because everybody's together.

[2:12:57] There's no other people.

[2:12:58] >> You don't have to because in 2027--

[2:13:16] >> The point is for market to work,

[2:13:17] there needs to be a of buyers and Sellers.

[2:13:17] That's the consumers consolidating,

[2:13:17] I get the bargaining power, what you're some competition

[2:13:17] on the bar side.

[2:13:17] Especially for city like lighthouse point,

[2:13:17] it's a small fish.

[2:13:17] I get the argument and I hope you're right.

[2:13:18] I hope the rates come back.

[2:13:20] But we won't know.

[2:13:21] Those are my thoughts on it.

[2:13:23] I will say more to my fellow commissioners.

[2:13:26] It sounds like you're inclined to take the free peak.

[2:13:31] I do feel pretty strongly-- and I

[2:13:55] want to be candid my opinion to the SWA on this.

[2:13:59] We to have a plan B if we decide opt out.

[2:14:00] We need to almost compete with and know

[2:14:00] what the world's going to look if we decide not to go forward.

[2:14:03] >> It's not me you're competing with.

[2:14:17] You're with other cities.

[2:14:18] >> Competition is good.

[2:14:22] That's why you're doing >> You're

[2:14:26] competing with every other city in Broward County,

[2:14:29] including Fort Lauderdale.

[2:14:30] I understand, but we decided not too ago

[2:14:30] to spend money in recycle when other just

[2:14:30] said no, it's too expensive.

[2:14:30] My point I need to know how much more expensive

[2:14:30] might be for Lighthouse Point to go with a loan

[2:14:32] if we decide to opt out.

[2:14:42] I know waste management has told us informally

[2:14:58] it's going be more.

[2:14:58] I need to know how much more, because if it's 15 a, maybe

[2:15:04] it's worth it for Lighthouse Point to separate it's.

[2:15:06] Maybe it's worth it for Point to obligate itself

[2:15:06] to some big capital that might be needed to achieve this goal.

[2:15:08] guess I want to be-- that I'm going to be advocating

[2:15:18] my fellow commissioners agree with me or not,

[2:15:20] we do as a city what we need do to see

[2:15:20] what the world looks like we opt out and decide to go.

[2:15:23] I don't think we would be doing jobs

[2:15:33] as elected representatives of the Lighthouse point seeing what

[2:15:38] those actions--

[2:15:41] I'll even assume they could be But the residents

[2:15:43] of Lighthouse Point are used a little bit of a higher levels

[2:15:43] of with respect to their trash.

[2:15:43] And we might willing to pay for it.

[2:15:44] >> And you still keep that level of service.

[2:15:50] I used you as example when I talked about the level of I

[2:15:56] said there's certain cities that have bulk yard waste once

[2:15:58] a week.

[2:16:02] Twice a week.

[2:16:07] Can I bring that up.

[2:16:08] There's certain cities that have twice a week

[2:16:08] pier certain cities have it once a month.

[2:16:08] You can choose your own level of service.

[2:16:10] Nobody's going to tell you that you can't have it twice a week

[2:16:15] or you can only have it twice a month.

[2:16:21] >> Maybe the stuff went away, I remember the last time we

[2:16:24] talked-- co-mingling.

[2:16:28] There's a value in that to our residents.

[2:16:30] Is it worth $25 more a ton?

[2:16:30] I don't know.

[2:16:30] I don't even know what I'm comparing it to.

[2:16:32] I feel pretty strongly, commissioners,

[2:16:40] that if you do move forward, we need to put out the bids,

[2:16:43] figure out what the alternative is.

[2:16:45] I know that's a lot of work for administration and the mayor,

[2:16:53] but I feel pretty strongly about that.

[2:16:54] >> We talked about it last time.

[2:16:57] The fact is that we did get an unsolicited bid yesterday.

[2:16:59] I can tell you that there's not a lot of details into it,

[2:17:07] but the idea is there are other people out there that

[2:17:12] are looking to service our trash here in the city of Lighthouse

[2:17:12] Point.

[2:17:12] I think as we look, to your point globally, Broward County,

[2:17:19] it's important that there is some competition.

[2:17:21] Having an opportunity to have a sneak peak,

[2:17:21] it's kind of what we've all agreed,

[2:17:21] but we need to have options because the city of lighthouse

[2:17:23] point, I think all the residents,

[2:17:39] and you saw here tonight the majority have cleared out,

[2:17:41] they expect the level of service.

[2:17:41] Whether it's library, the reading program,

[2:17:41] whether it's public works, tree trimming, recreation, baseball

[2:17:41] or softball.

[2:17:41] I think it's important.

[2:17:41] And the fact that an unsolicited bid came in,

[2:17:41] the fact is that there's an appetite for someone

[2:17:41] to service and dispose of our trash here in Lighthouse Point

[2:17:43] outside of what SWA provided.

[2:18:12] Again, I'm not sure that that's what it's-- it's going to be

[2:18:16] worth to residents to go for $3 a month,

[2:18:17] all of a sudden they can lock in at 10 or 15 year contract.

[2:18:24] I think we have to look at it.

[2:18:27] And I will tell you very truthfully,

[2:18:29] we're signing up for this without having

[2:18:31] an option for a plan B or plan C,

[2:18:37] technically, I think we would not

[2:18:39] be doing our due diligence to the residents of Lighthouse

[2:18:39] Point.

[2:18:39] You can't have option A if you're not signed up.

[2:18:48] >> Listen, option A was a good move.

[2:18:53] But the opt out was--

[2:18:57] I respect that.

[2:18:57] And you guys got your votes you need.

[2:18:59] >> It came from you.

[2:19:05] >> I respect that.

[2:19:06] A lot of this is very policy driven in my mind.

[2:19:06] It's almost a policy experiment of whether we're going

[2:19:06] to be able to achieve this.

[2:19:06] I said this last time, and I will say it again.

[2:19:08] Tallahassee ever hears me-- if we join and stay on board,

[2:19:33] we are giving up a modicum of control

[2:19:35] of how we handle one of the major aspects of living

[2:19:35] in Lighthouse Point and being here

[2:19:35] in the city, which is handling a portion of your trash.

[2:19:35] And in a world where home is being almost virtually erased,

[2:19:35] I respectfully have a psychological problem

[2:19:35] with yielding control, and that to me is an extension of that.

[2:19:35] Nothing personal.

[2:19:36] I know it's a lot of work and very complicated and difficult

[2:19:39] business.

[2:20:05] I'm glad we could probably have that discussion another day.

[2:20:07] >> We'll have another discussion as we look into this

[2:20:13] opportunity.

[2:20:13] I've spoken with legal to make sure

[2:20:13] that we're following all the procurement process about it

[2:20:13] and who we can talk to.

[2:20:13] The key is that there are other people out there

[2:20:15] that are looking to service the City of Lighthouse Point.

[2:20:30] >> Hopefully there will always be people.

[2:20:34] >> Then we have a real problem.

[2:20:42] >> Thank you very much for coming.

[2:20:45] >> I do have something to say.

[2:20:46] If we're going to go into this thing,

[2:20:48] we need to find out what option B is if it doesn't work by 2027.

[2:20:51] We absolutely have to do that.

[2:20:52] Then we know if we're right if we get into it and stay in it,

[2:20:52] but we know we're wrong if we don't.

[2:20:53] >> Appreciate that.

[2:21:01] So if we're going to have a, we're going to call the vote.

[2:21:12] >> I will add a final comment and a question.

[2:21:17] I'm in favor of this sneak peak.

[2:21:24] I think (Indiscernible)-- I'm curious, what's

[2:21:30] the downside to the sneak peak?

[2:21:32] >> I think the downside to the sneak peak is--

[2:21:39] I know it's not exactly like a government agency,

[2:21:41] but you are creating a taxing authority to achieve something,

[2:21:45] and I keep coming back to the master plan that

[2:21:50] gave no data on supporting what the goal is actually achievable.

[2:21:52] And I just can't wrap my head around how

[2:21:52] this could have gone as far as it did without somebody saying--

[2:21:56] we hired somebody to figure out whether a sidewalk is feasible.

[2:22:13] From what I read on the master plan,

[2:22:18] nobody has said whether 75% is feasible.

[2:22:20] It is assumed.

[2:22:20] >> Didn't he just say Palm Beach is a 90%.

[2:22:24] What's the difference between possible and feasible?

[2:22:26] >> They own their own facility.

[2:22:36] >> We're talking about a percentage of recycling,

[2:22:39] not about how they process it.

[2:22:40] >> I understand.

[2:22:52] >> It's already created.

[2:22:56] >> That's fair.

[2:22:57] >> I don't know if you read all the white papers,

[2:22:59] but there's white papers that really dive into every aspect.

[2:23:06] And it would dive into the feasibility.

[2:23:10] >> Everything was focused on the master plan.

[2:23:12] I did not see it in the master plan.

[2:23:14] I'll send --

[2:23:21] >> I'll send you something on that.

[2:23:22] >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution number 2026-2740,

[2:23:29] approving the First Amendment to the interlocal agreement

[2:23:34] for solid disposable recyclable materials processing authority

[2:23:37] of Broward County.

[2:23:37] >> We have a motion and a second.

[2:23:46] All those in favor signify by saying aye.

[2:23:54] Opposed.

[2:23:56] Motino passes 3-1.

[2:23:59] Resolution approving the revised Second amendment

[2:24:01] to the interlocal agreement for solid waste disposal

[2:24:01] and recyclable materials processing

[2:24:01] authority of Broward County.

[2:24:02] >> (Indiscernible)-- the amendment must now be approved

[2:24:13] by all members of the governing body of the Solid Waste

[2:24:15] Authority.

[2:24:15] Revised amendment includes changing the language.

[2:24:19] It provides an additional laptop opportunity in 2027

[2:24:22] after the RFP responses from the responsible and processing

[2:24:25] facilities have been received in the contract awards

[2:24:25] have been recommended.

[2:24:25] And it now allows participating municipalities

[2:24:25] the ability to withdraw or opt out from the Broward Solid Waste

[2:24:25] Authority for any reason.

[2:24:26] After the award recommendation following the solicitation

[2:24:40] (Indiscernible)-- a second amendment

[2:24:54] must be approved by all participating municipalities.

[2:25:03] Approval of the Second Amendment does not

[2:25:05] create any direct fiscal impact and provides

[2:25:05] the city with future withdrawal options following the authority

[2:25:05] the initial procurement process for 2027 in 2048.

[2:25:05] Request the City Commission consider the resolution

[2:25:07] to adopt the revised Second Amendment to the--

[2:25:31] >> Motion to read?

[2:25:34] >> Resolution of a city commission of city of lighthouse

[2:25:37] Point Florida, second amendment to the interlocal agreement

[2:25:39] for solid waste disposal, recyclable materials--

[2:25:46] >> Second amendment is the greatest thing since sliced

[2:25:49] bread.

[2:25:49] I love the Second Amendment.

[2:25:49] I am very much in favor.

[2:25:50] Because in politics?

[2:25:54] I love the Second Amendment.

[2:25:56] I'm a huge fan of the Second Amendment.

[2:25:56] Why didn't I think of that one?

[2:25:57] The Second --

[2:26:07] >> Second amendment here or the Second Amendment

[2:26:09] on the Constitution?

[2:26:13] >> Both.

[2:26:14] >> I'll make a motion to approve resolution 26-2741.

[2:26:15] Approving the revised Second Amendment

[2:26:15] to the Interlocal Agreement for Solid Waste Disposal

[2:26:15] and Recyclable Materials processing to Broward County.

[2:26:15] >> We have a motion.

[2:26:15] We have a second.

[2:26:18] All those in favor, signify by saying aye.

[2:26:37] Motion passes 4-0.

[2:26:40] Good luck.

[2:26:43] Moving on, public comments and requests from the floor.

[2:26:45] Anything else from the peanut gallery tonight?

[2:26:47] No one is raising their hand.

[2:26:47] We will close public comments from the floor.

[2:26:49] Communications.

[2:27:06] >> Great event at the park Friday night.

[2:27:08] The final pop up of the summer.

[2:27:08] The weather helped the whole time.

[2:27:08] I give kudos to the team that organizes it.

[2:27:10] I know that I showed up.

[2:27:22] I spent $30 right off the bat and I went home

[2:27:24] with a nice chocolate chip.

[2:27:40] it was a chocolate chocolate peanut butter cup.

[2:27:49] >> I missed that.

[2:27:53] >> I got nothing else.

[2:27:56] >> Marshall.

[2:27:58] >> I had a question of something I noticed.

[2:27:58] We have a lot of demolition going on in the city.

[2:27:58] My question is if it is not in the code,

[2:28:00] maybe we should entertain putting it in the code,

[2:28:07] but these construction fences should not be along the route.

[2:28:14] They should be backed out of the right of way.

[2:28:16] You can't put a face in the right of way.

[2:28:18] Why would you be able to put--

[2:28:27] I don't know what the answer is to that.

[2:28:29] If it is not in the code, we should have it in the code.

[2:28:36] Whatever the right of way is, it should not

[2:28:38] be in the right of way.

[2:28:39] One of these issues that I think we have-- people come and park

[2:28:50] in the street.

[2:28:50] It just fixes everything up.

[2:28:50] If it is off the street, and if there's only two cars,

[2:28:50] those construction workers could park off the street.

[2:28:52] So I think if it's not in there, we should

[2:28:58] verify that that is the code.

[2:29:14] If we're in agreement, but that's just something

[2:29:18] that I recently discovered.

[2:29:19] I discovered it in one of my wheelchair trips

[2:29:23] around the city.

[2:29:26] >> Just to respond, I think I share a similar sense in that

[2:29:28] a couple of months ago when they were finishing up one

[2:29:30] of the homes.

[2:29:32] They knocked it down and rebuilt it on 49th Street because that

[2:29:37] exact same situation happened.

[2:29:38] And it was along 49th Street, which was a major--

[2:29:40] where the fence comes right to the sidewalk.

[2:29:46] It's not technically the right of way.

[2:29:48] Then you've got all the construction

[2:29:48] workers parking their cars, blocking the right lane.

[2:29:50] >> The sidewalk, normally parked behind the sidewalk.

[2:29:56] But in this particular case that I'm talking about,

[2:29:58] there's no sidewalk on that street.

[2:29:58] The fence is right at the edge of the road.

[2:30:00] And the gate opens into the road.

[2:30:16] >> That shouldn't be the case.

[2:30:21] I will report back to you.

[2:30:24] >> Anything else?

[2:30:25] >> Recycle.

[2:30:25] It's all I can tell you.

[2:30:27] I would like us to think about, Mayor, trying to see some way--

[2:30:36] I think waste management is supposed to help

[2:30:38] us do that kind of stuff.

[2:30:39] Maybe we can lay-- to we give them addresses or something

[2:30:43] somehow, I'm not trying to beat anybody up.

[2:30:45] Just trying to make people-- maybe

[2:30:51] they don't even think about it.

[2:30:53] >> I'll have Jennifer look into it.

[2:30:58] She handles that.

[2:31:02] >> Thank you.

[2:31:03] >> The waste management lines, I want to thank Dwayne for freeing

[2:31:06] up some space in my recycling bins.

[2:31:10] Chief Recaro we're taking care of a tree that got knocked down.

[2:31:19] Sent a bunch of guys to clean it up.

[2:31:24] >> First and foremost, It was nice that our stuff had a nice

[2:31:27] little break.

[2:31:27] I'm sure it was well enjoyed.

[2:31:27] Becky had another amazing and successful summer camp,

[2:31:27] which is awesome.

[2:31:27] And Public Works has already gotten over there

[2:31:27] and cleaning up all the fun the kids

[2:31:29] had over the last six and a half weeks.

[2:31:48] As we're still talking a little trash amongst each other,

[2:31:51] the idea of getting option B and option C will take time.

[2:31:51] Whether it's an unsolicited bid, or us actually putting out

[2:31:51] to bid to see what's out there in the world,

[2:31:54] I think that's the only way that we could go.

[2:32:09] It will take some time.

[2:32:10] So don't look for anything immediately.

[2:32:10] I will go back to the original portion of the night.

[2:32:10] We had Marty here.

[2:32:10] He does a great presentation.

[2:32:10] Whether he's on four cups of coffee or no coffee,

[2:32:10] he talks the same speed.

[2:32:10] The most important aspect that he said out there,

[2:32:10] we continuously go back and forth with the state statutes

[2:32:10] on what we can talk about and advocate for, not advocate

[2:32:13] for, we cannot advocate for anything.

[2:32:21] We can't bring out--

[2:32:45] I'm sure some of you look at the next door

[2:32:47] look at some of these people's posts on Facebook.

[2:32:47] And opinions and it's amazing to me.

[2:32:48] it's amazing to me how we cannot get the facts out there.

[2:33:03] There are still people that don't understand that it's not

[2:33:05] going to affect the school board Texas,

[2:33:05] or the fact that we don't get the full tax bill.

[2:33:05] We only get 21.2%.

[2:33:05] There's no protection for police and fire.

[2:33:07] There's a lot of things out there that are not protected.

[2:33:11] And I can tell you as we continue to go to the budget .

[2:33:24] And I've talked to all of you about this.

[2:33:29] We're continuously looking to figure out where we would come.

[2:33:38] I'll go back to the $100,000 exemption.

[2:33:41] We would probably survive.

[2:33:43] We would then increase our millage rates and Levy

[2:33:45] different debts.

[2:33:45] Would have all of these aspects that

[2:33:45] would cause more problems and more work

[2:33:45] for staff, which is kind of kind of intuitive.

[2:33:46] But we run a tight ship here.

[2:33:46] We continue to have a tight ship.

[2:33:46] And unfortunately the stewards in the wall that we look over

[2:33:46] to our left and the people that have sat in the chair

[2:33:46] to our far right over there have done such an amazing job

[2:33:49] to spend every dollar wisely.

[2:34:22] Unfortunately, that is going to hurt us

[2:34:26] when the sentiment on our next commission meeting,

[2:34:26] we will have the full discussion on what the property tax

[2:34:26] cuts would look like now that you've seen the numbers in front

[2:34:28] of you, and how you would solve some of the problems,

[2:34:32] and what the long term goals and expectations of the residents

[2:34:40] should be if this goes into effect.

[2:34:41] Come with your questions, come with some thoughts,

[2:34:49] but more importantly, I'm prepared

[2:34:53] that services and capital improvement

[2:34:55] projects will suffer.

[2:34:56] It's going to be harder to decide.

[2:35:07] >> Should we potentially-- potentially have the town hall

[2:35:10] meetings sometime in September or October?

[2:35:12] And present the facts.

[2:35:13] >> You're spending city >> I would have to lean on legal

[2:35:27] to see what would it be feasible--

[2:35:38] >> Town hall meetings are not for putting things out there.

[2:35:42] They're not spending public money to send things out.

[2:35:42] That's what you're prohibited from doing.

[2:35:42] You can host a town hall meeting.

[2:35:44] You can educate that those town hall meetings.

[2:35:59] you balance it and you don't necessarily

[2:36:01] advocate one way or another.

[2:36:01] You get those facts out there on the referendum.

[2:36:01] I think you did have those for your charter amendments

[2:36:01] a couple of years ago.

[2:36:01] Because you faced the same coalition then.

[2:36:01] You cannot use tax dollars to send that information out,

[2:36:03] even if it's education.

[2:36:27] >> We'll discuss that in an upcoming meeting.

[2:36:30] And the legal aspect and we'll rely on Mike

[2:36:33] for all that fancy stuff.

[2:36:42] >> And show them how much they do for you,

[2:36:44] and that's a critical tool.

[2:36:46] >> I appreciate that there was quite a few residents here

[2:36:49] tonight from Marty's presentation.

[2:36:50] I know there was a few neighbors from across the canal that

[2:36:50] showed up.

[2:36:50] I appreciate them showing up.

[2:36:52] >> Anything else?

[2:37:01] We are adjourned.

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