[0:00] Well, it's not >> breaking the city council to order. If

[0:05] you please join us in the pledge of allegiance led by Councilman Blair.

[0:11] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[0:16] republic for which it stands, one nation,

[0:20] indivisible, liberty and justice for all.

[0:28] All righty.

[0:32] We get started with help from the port.

[0:37] You have like to say this even. >> Thank you, mayor. I just wanted to share

[0:42] that I was able to part uh participate at the library ribbon cutting and that

[0:49] was a very special moment. Um it felt like such a community in there. I know

[0:55] that there are probably some other council members that felt the same way.

[0:58] And I just wanted to share some kind of specific feedback that I got. I have a

[1:04] friend who has a um seventh grader, her son who is autistic, and she said that

[1:12] it was very meaningful to her that she could use the um family restroom at the

[1:18] new library. And that was something that I I just wanted to share that that that

[1:23] might not have been something that we, you know, I I just want to give kudos to

[1:29] the planner who put that in there because I think it was definitely

[1:32] something that added a lot of value for the community. Thank you.

[1:37] » Thank you, Council Fraser. >> Um it's been a while, but uh

[1:42] congratulations to the city for the third of July event. Uh it was another

[1:45] fantastic year. So, building on the success of the first year, uh I know my

[1:49] family appreciated it and I think a lot of families, a lot of people in

[1:52] Lichfield and from the surrounding area appreciate it. So, thank you. Um you

[1:56] know, thank you to staff. Uh you had a very tight timeline with the the library

[2:02] and all the improvements that were required. Um I know how hard that is to

[2:06] pull all that together. So, you did a great job. Uh so, thank you, you know,

[2:11] for getting that done on behalf of the city. Um, and I want to, you know,

[2:15] certainly recognize, uh, Aendale PD for their professionalism. There's been some

[2:20] incidents, you know, this summer, uh, including one recently. Uh, they're a

[2:25] very professional organization. I'm very proud that we have them in our city. Um,

[2:30] I'm very proud to have them on a lighter note out at Lichfield Elementary School.

[2:35] So, they're out there every morning. Um, I'm one of the many parents that

[2:38] participate in that chaos of dropping their kids off. Um, and having Aendale

[2:42] PD out there, especially at the beginning of the year, uh, helping

[2:46] direct traffic and and help us parents figure out what to do because we forgot

[2:49] over the summer, is is a great help. Um, and they're certainly appreciated.

[2:55] » Thank you, Councilman James. No report. >> Brandon Watson,

[3:00] » I have a good report as well. Um, I also attended the uh grand opening. I c came

[3:07] at that with a very different perspective because that corner means a

[3:10] lot to our family. And so seeing seeing it go full circle, for those of you who

[3:16] don't know, I grew up on the corner where CVS is now. That entire property

[3:20] was where our house and my dad's farm and everything that was important to him

[3:26] was. And uh change wasn't always easy. you know, the road came in, cut us off

[3:32] from the park, destroyed the lifestyle that we loved so much. But in the end,

[3:39] uh, the change has been positive, and to be in the library and see all of the

[3:43] historical nods, the chandelier, um, the mural, which I'd like to give

[3:50] kudos to Catitude Arts. I was one of the people who was kind of uh questioning

[3:56] whether or not they were going to actually follow through or not, but they

[3:59] did a great job and it has a lot of the historical elements of the park that are

[4:03] so important. So, um and then seeing the high school is marvelous. I have a son

[4:10] who would have benefited from it and I know that looking down into the future,

[4:13] we will have generations of kids who are going to finally find where they belong

[4:18] and their people before they get out of high school. So that's really really

[4:23] cool. Um I also attended the 3rd of July event. I went listening. I like to go to

[4:30] those things and eaves drop. Um it's getting harder to do is my hearing is

[4:34] better than my listening or my listening is better than my hearing. But I didn't

[4:39] hear single negative from anybody. Usually there's someone who's belly

[4:43] aching. It was great. Um we attended the Coast Guard flag raising a week or so

[4:49] ago. Suzanne was there. Um, marvelous job with that. Went off flawlessly. It's

[4:56] amazing to think that we have retired Coast Guard members here who are willing

[5:01] to come and give their time for their country. And all of the guys were

[5:05] retired. You could tell by their age. Um, and we don't have a Coast Guard

[5:10] facility really close to us here. Wonder why. Um, but it was really good. Really

[5:16] good. I also um got the opportunity to attend a lunchon with Mayor show for the

[5:22] Southwest Valley Chamber of Commerce and that was very nice. Well done.

[5:27] Um I had so much I wanted to say. So I

[5:32] wanted to take this moment to publicly congratulate our new members to the

[5:36] council and to welcome them. Um by now everybody knows the results and I'm

[5:41] perfectly fine the result as it is. I'm ecstatic that the mayor and vice mayor

[5:46] were both reelected. Um, and um, everybody has a time and

[5:51] place and mine has been wonderful. I've appreciated everything I've done with

[5:56] this city and all of the work you all do. So, that's my report.

[6:01] » Thank you, Counc.

[6:05] » I um was at the ground or the ribbon cutting as well and what a great

[6:10] experience the library. I mean, just a step forward for the city and and the

[6:14] the hilltop school to to look at the faces as we were sitting there and the

[6:18] balloon drop and it it was pretty special to be able to see that, you

[6:22] know, how many people were able to affect through time and just to watch

[6:25] the kids in those faces. They wouldn't have been able to to get that experience

[6:29] or or have the ability of growing that way. Um, something I definitely want to

[6:34] talk about right now though is Yosha, you did a great job run of the run of

[6:37] the show putting everything together, make sure we were where we needed to be.

[6:41] that was so appreciated. I also want to thank all the staff with these storms

[6:46] that we've been dealing with this last week. Um, everybody mobilized, everybody

[6:50] got engaged. Matthew and I were out pulling trees out of roads at 11:00 at

[6:54] night. Um, it was just good to see the community come together, everybody

[6:59] working, the public works team coming in, WCA, and the amount of work they've

[7:03] done in just three days. I mean, kudos to everybody for making that come

[7:06] together. It was great effort to to try and get the city back together as much

[7:10] as possible with as much as we've lost.

[7:15] » Thank you, Councilman. Mr. Vice Mayor, >> uh, thank you, mayor. I got a couple of

[7:20] things to add to what everybody else has said. Um,

[7:24] the election is over, thank goodness. Uh, it was done in the primary. We don't

[7:29] have to go to the general, so we are done hopefully seeing signs for a while.

[7:35] uh elections at the county level, the state level,

[7:39] uh the federal level can be difficult, for lack of a better word, at

[7:46] times. Uh our elections in Lichfield Park were very cordial, uh very

[7:52] professional, and I want to thank everybody who's involved in the entire

[7:55] process. Um, it's what makes our town special, uh, to be able to go through

[8:02] this kind of process to get together afterwards with our friends, with our

[8:08] neighbors, uh, and and move forward. So, thank you everyone uh, for what you did

[8:14] uh, in the election. Uh, special congratulations to Sarah Pearson, uh,

[8:20] who is a top getter, uh, Cody Conklin, the mayor, and myself. We're all going

[8:28] to be around starting next year. I was first appointed on the council in

[8:34] 2004. I ran for reelection five times. Um,

[8:40] every time I ran an election, I received the highest votes. And suddenly I got

[8:44] beat by by 12 votes by Sarah who who worked it hard and I congratulate her

[8:50] for that. Uh I I didn't do a lot. I decided to run solely on my record. Uh I

[8:56] put up some signs, couple of Facebook posts and that was pretty much it. And

[9:02] the signs were old signs from old elections. So I didn't spend a penny. Um

[9:08] figured if my record didn't stand, then so be it. it could be a win-win for both

[9:13] of us. Um,

[9:18] I I view the results of the election uh because there were there were

[9:23] significant differences

[9:27] in the structuring of votes and and I I view it as a reaffirmation

[9:34] uh that the mayor and I have proceeded down a path for many many

[9:41] years uh that the citizens appreciate and wish us to continue in

[9:47] that that that same direction. Um, yeah, I think we've done a good job. Uh,

[9:54] [sighs] it's always hard to to tell to see the

[9:58] future. Hindsight's always 2020. Uh, but u, I think as things have come together,

[10:04] it it's worked out. It's very important to us to preserve our small town

[10:12] atmosphere and do it in the face of development pressures that are around us

[10:18] and within our city. And I think we've been able to to handle that well. And I

[10:24] look forward to four more years, my last four years as a council member and the

[10:30] mayor's last four years as a mayor because we are term limited. uh as the

[10:35] new charter. Uh but we've uh we had some work to do in those four years and then

[10:42] you know pass pass the wand. Uh different subject

[10:50] city has been in the news the last u week or two

[10:56] uh from a very sad family situation. I I want to reaffirm to

[11:05] all of our citizens that Lichfield Park is a very safe community to live in.

[11:12] The council reviews the police and the fire reports every month. We have an

[11:18] excellent police department. Our police chief lives in Lichville Park. We have

[11:23] an excellent fire department. Our deputy chief lives in Lichville Park. The

[11:29] services that we get are excellent.

[11:34] Uh we've increased our spending on public

[11:38] safety in the last when did we hire fire department? 10

[11:43] years ago, 15 years ago, 15 probably >> 15 years ago. uh we've we've

[11:48] concentrated on on the safety of this community and everything that we do

[11:54] includes an analysis of how is that going to affect our

[11:59] citizens? Is it going to affect safety? Is it going to increase safety? That's

[12:03] in all of our minds every time we we look at any issue that comes.

[12:08] Uh all of my children live here. All of my grandchildren live in this city. Uh

[12:13] the safety is very very important to me.

[12:20] Unfortunately, we've had a couple of high-profile cases and and they've

[12:24] happened within families and within their homes

[12:30] where our public safety experts really can react only after the fact. Uh our

[12:38] our hearts go out to those families. Uh fortunately though, our streets are

[12:44] safe, our parks are safe, our city is is is one of the safest places in this

[12:49] state uh to reside.

[12:55] Please also remember that this increase in safety that we

[13:00] provide, it really only happens within our our city boundaries. It's a

[13:05] difficult situation u because we have an 85340

[13:11] zip code that includes an area that is dozens and dozens and dozens of times

[13:19] bigger than than this city is. Uh but they all have the same the same address.

[13:24] But those areas outside the city boundaries

[13:28] do not get this increased level of services that that we provide. And

[13:32] that's one of the reasons why we are so safe because of that increased level of

[13:36] services.

[13:39] [clears throat]

[13:42] Finally, I'd like to ask staff, and I've mentioned this to Matthew before.

[13:48] I think it's important to our city that we have signage markers that show where

[13:53] our boundaries actually are. Um, our staff gets calls all the time saying,

[13:58] "Hey, I live in Lichfield." And you got to tell them, "No, you don't." and they

[14:02] say, "Yes, I do. My broker told me." And you're going to tell them, "No, they

[14:06] don't." And there's kind of push and pull and back and forth and some

[14:10] problems with the staff. Uh, I think it would be valuable to our citizens,

[14:14] valuable to us to for know where the boundaries are. Uh, and I'm not asking

[14:19] for some expensive monument, big great thing. All I'm asking for is one or two

[14:25] poles in the ground that a sign that says welcome to Lville Park, you know,

[14:29] and maybe on the back of it says leaving Lynchville Park, you know, the city of

[14:34] Lichfield Park. Uh so we can we can differentiate.

[14:38] Uh I'd like to see maybe staff think about that, maybe figure out if that's

[14:42] going to be a big expense, if it's possible to do. Thank you.

[14:48] » Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor. Uh just a couple of comments.

[14:52] Everybody mentioned about the library and the school. Those are really

[14:56] important events for the uh for the city and for the southwest island. Uh for

[15:01] myself, it has been more than a decade that was spent working on the hilltop

[15:04] and trying to figure out how how can the hilltop become a sustainable asset for

[15:09] the city and the residents and for the southwest island in the way that it used

[15:13] to be. uh given the fact that maintaining it is such a huge expense

[15:18] that literally when we first received it as a gift if we had done a good job

[15:23] maintaining it that's all we could have done as a city period. uh it is it was a

[15:29] tremendous it's a tremendous asset but it carried tremendous responsibilities

[15:34] and I I am very excited that the library and the school and the theater

[15:40] museum are coming the band stand re rehab project is coming

[15:46] we're going to have a beautiful asset you can see it actually coming you know

[15:51] coming to life and that's that's wonderful uh the library already is busy

[15:56] which is really I was concerned, you know, how many people would actually

[15:59] come to this brand new library. Uh, but it's busy and that's exactly what we

[16:03] want to see. Uh, the opening of the school was tremendous. The kids that are

[16:07] in there are they look like really good kids. Uh, they are excited about their

[16:12] new programming, things that they're going to be able to learn. So, it's it's

[16:16] nothing but a win-win for our for our our community. On a sad note, the uh one

[16:24] of the things that was special about the the library was being able to see it

[16:29] dedicated to the memory of Max Wilson. Max was tremendously important to the

[16:34] entire Southwest Valley, to the whole West Valley really. He was probably was

[16:38] probably the first major developer other than maybe John Fong that actually

[16:43] developed communities out here and got life on the West Valley started. uh he

[16:48] he put a lot into our community. So the the library actually was a very

[16:52] important it was a very important project for him once he became

[16:57] supervisor. Uh but it was really sad because his family was not able to

[17:02] participate in the opening because uh Max's wife Judith literally died a

[17:08] couple days before the opening ceremony. Uh so as a family they were not able to

[17:13] participate and I'm sorry for that. We we are going to have the whole family at

[17:17] some point come over to the library and and show them the plaque and talk to

[17:22] them about about how important the family has been to the to the park. Uh

[17:27] but I only wanted to mention it as it was it was the one thing that was sad

[17:31] about that day of dedicating the library or opening the library.

[17:36] Uh the other thing I wanted to say mention is that the staff really is to

[17:40] be commended for getting the library and and working with the Alma Pria school

[17:45] district to get the school done on time. When when we agreed with Al Pria that

[17:51] have this open by August the 3rd I think it was I wasn't convinced 100% that we

[17:59] would make it happen but the staff worked very very hard on it and did a

[18:04] tremendous job. uh they're trying to coordinate just to coordinate uh all

[18:10] these different governmental unit units together all the different contractors

[18:15] all the different engineering firms. Uh it it's tremendous that it was that it

[18:20] was pulled off and I'm and I'm proud to say that that for the library the

[18:24] library came in on on budget and on time which is very unusual for government

[18:28] projects. So thank you to the staff. Um,

[18:33] also I want to welcome for those of you who got met, my son Matthew is here.

[18:37] He's from Chicago and he just, you know, couldn't wait to come and see a council

[18:40] meeting. Can't understand why. I hope he enjoys this. With that, we'll go to the

[18:47] city manager report. If anyone has questions for the city manager, you have

[18:51] his report in your packet. >> Mr. Mayor, a couple quick comments if

[18:55] you don't mind. >> Um, as the mayor said, the report is in

[18:58] your pocket in your packet. Questions you may have. Um, a lot of things that I

[19:01] was going to say have been said. It's been a very very busy few weeks in in

[19:05] the city. Some some good and some bad. Um,

[19:10] so many things to say about staff and all the work that in the library. I was

[19:12] there for the the discussions, the debates, the stops in the hallways.

[19:16] Well, what about this? Why don't we try that? Will this work? So many pieces and

[19:20] thoughts and just giving of ourselves that we're in this project where it was.

[19:24] And for me, that means a lot to me. And and it was fun. For me, it was. and I

[19:28] hope the staff that was involved think so too and we'll talk about that more

[19:31] later this year. Um, I would also like to thank the council for having the

[19:34] courage to move forward with the library project. Those of you that were here, it

[19:38] was it was a it was contentious at times, but you had the courage to move

[19:43] ahead and do what you thought and what I think was best for the city. And that

[19:46] takes courage to do that. It really does. And for me that we we pulled it

[19:50] off. We got done and it opened on time. You may remember when we during the

[19:54] presentation when I said the library would open August of this year. The

[19:58] audience actually laughed, but it happened. The school opened, the

[20:03] roundabout open. The library opened and it's again, it's just been a fun ride.

[20:07] Thank you so much for council and staff for every thing that went into that.

[20:10] » I think that's when Ry's eyes started twitching.

[20:14] » They still were. [laughter]

[20:17] And and again, everyone did a great job and thank you so much for all the work

[20:20] that went into that. And again for the last week with everything that went on

[20:23] in the community with law enforcement with a tragedy that happened.

[20:28] I I don't know what else to say but our prayers for the family and thank you for

[20:32] the job that police did. Also this weekend this week with the

[20:36] storms it's already been said council cla thank you. I can honestly say I've

[20:39] never ran logging chains with a council member before. We were out there pulling

[20:42] trees of the road at midnight and hope he had as much fun as I did.

[20:45] » Yeah. So, and thank you to public grounds for all their work in uh WCA and

[20:50] for Bright View as well. It's been a very busy week for staff getting roads

[20:54] cleared, getting yards cleared and I really think when you see the damage,

[20:57] when you see the trees, the cars that no one was hurt. It really is amazing and

[21:03] certainly thank one comment I would also say is that you may have noticed that

[21:07] our city attorney has changed his appearance for tonight.

[21:10] So, Joe couldn't be with us because of course this is an offite council

[21:13] meeting. So Michelle Stinson is here with us and we're glad to have her.

[21:17] She's an attorney also with Pierce Coleman and normally represents the city

[21:20] of Youngtown >> and thank you for being here with us

[21:23] tonight. >> Thank you. I appreciate the warm

[21:24] welcome. >> Thank you, mayor and council.

[21:27] » All right. Any other questions? The city manager, get them to him directly. This

[21:33] takes us to the call the community. We have one request to speak. This is an

[21:37] opportunity for for for citizens to speak to the council on an agenda item.

[21:42] Uh we have a request to speak from LA.

[21:49] » Voting measures.

[21:53] » Thank you. Thanks, Mayor and Council. Thanks for all that you do, all of you.

[21:57] I know some of you personally, and I'm just thankful for our community. Um so,

[22:02] my name is Kelly Troy Orbone, and I'm a resident here, and I live on Oro Vista.

[22:07] Like so many people in our community, I was heartbroken seeing the trees that we

[22:11] lost this week. And it made me think about something

[22:14] bigger than simply cleaning up after a storm at midnight.

[22:18] What do we want Lichfield Park to look like 25, 50, or even 100 years from now?

[22:25] One of the thing that things that makes our community so special is our trees.

[22:29] When you drive down old Lichfield, when you walk past Turtle Park, when you walk

[22:34] past the former library, the wigwam, and throughout our neighborhoods, you

[22:38] immediately know you're in Lichfield Park. And that didn't happen

[22:42] accidentally. More than 100 years ago, when Paul Lichfield and architect LG

[22:48] Knight were planning this community, landscaping was a big part of that

[22:52] vision. Those trees became part of the identity of Lichfield Park. So rather

[22:58] than simply mourning the trees we've lost, which I have cried walking around

[23:01] the park and seeing that, um, I'd love for us to use this moment as an

[23:07] opportunity. Could we create a Lichfield Park legacy tree initiative? Maybe this

[23:13] becomes a partnership between the city, residents, businesses, civic

[23:18] organizations, and our historical society. People could sponsor trees.

[23:23] Families could plant trees in memory of or in honor of someone. Businesses could

[23:29] help fund them. We could identify historically appropriate trees and

[23:34] locations with the help of arborists and the city. And perhaps we establish a

[23:40] long-term goal that whenever significant trees are lost due to age, disease, or

[23:45] storms, we're already planning for the generation of trees that will replace

[23:49] them. Because the people who planted those

[23:53] trees a century ago weren't really only planting them for themselves. They were

[23:58] planting them for us. And I think we have an opportunity to do the same thing

[24:03] for families that will live here 25 years from now, 50 years from now, and

[24:07] 100 years from now. I'd be happy to help organize residents, businesses, or

[24:14] community partners. If the city would be willing to explore this, let's not just

[24:19] replace what we've lost. Let's continue what they started. Thank you.

[24:26] Thank you for your comments. Um, I don't know if you understand that with open

[24:31] meeting law, we're not really able to respond to your comment, but staff has

[24:35] learned the fact they do want to volunteer on something that's important.

[24:38] So, you want to be careful. [laughter]

[24:42] All right, with that, we're going to move on to the presentation section. The

[24:46] first presentation is uh the employee of the quarter. We have

[24:52] this is you know as I as I've said every every quarter I get to say is this this

[24:57] is one of the most important things that we do as a council and as a city is to

[25:01] recognize the employees that work for us and we do this through a program where

[25:06] the employees not the managers but employees that work along with each

[25:09] other nominate each other every quarter for who has been the most beneficial to

[25:14] other staff or to residents and this quarter we are proud to announce that

[25:20] state federally won the award. She's here to accept it.

[25:25] We give that.

[25:34] » We used to give employees a gift certificate, but now we give them the

[25:38] best gift. We give them a day off. >> Thank you very much for your service.

[25:50] Okay, next item is we have some new employees. I think uh this is Adams

[25:58] Williams who is our HR director is going to introduce them to us. This interview

[26:04] is given to us. >> Good evening, mayor, vice mayor, members

[26:09] of council. I'd like to introduce to you our new street superintendent, Ed Pedro.

[26:14] It's going to save a few.

[26:18] » Hello. Um, mayor, vice mayor, and uh, council council members. Um, I have to

[26:24] be honest with you, this is the first time I've been in front of council and

[26:27] mayor vice mayor before, so excuse me. Um, as Lisa said, I I'm at Padrome. Um,

[26:34] I come to city of Litzfield Park from the city of Scottdale

[26:39] um, where I served as the transportation and street operations manager. Um,

[26:45] I have, excuse [clears throat] me, I have approximately 25 years as a public

[26:49] servant. Um, 30 years in the pavement preservation and road construction uh

[26:58] industry. Uh, and I'm just thankful to be a part of the team. Thankful to be

[27:04] here part of a member of the city of Litzville Park.

[27:09] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

[27:10] » Welcome aboard. >> Thank you. Appreciate We appreciate

[27:13] you're joining us. >> Yes, sir.

[27:14] » Look forward to working with you on something that's very, very important to

[27:19] our residents. >> Thank you.

[27:21] » Thank you.

[27:26] » Okay, next item. >> Next item we're going to cover is

[27:30] recognition of the ovarian cancer uh month that is being uh that's being

[27:38] recognized. CS I don't know if it's if it's the month

[27:43] that we're in or the month. I guess it's the month that's coming up. September.

[27:45] Is that correct? >> Okay. We have a representative from the

[27:51] uh

[27:55] ov she's an ovarian cancer survivor. Rachel second Putnham. She's with us

[28:01] here by Zoom. uh she is here as an advocate for this

[28:05] pro you know for this awareness and for uh resolving this disease and we're

[28:11] going to give her a proclamation. here is the proclamation.

[28:16] Whereas over where whereas ovarian cancer is the fifth leading cause of

[28:19] cancer related death among women in the United States and the American Cancer

[28:24] Society estimates that in 2026 approximately 21,010

[28:30] women will be diagnosed with ovarian cancer and 12,450

[28:36] will die from the disease nationwide including 510 new cases and 330 deaths

[28:44] in Arizona. Whereas a woman's lifetime risk of being

[28:49] diagnosed with ovarian cancer is about 1 in 91 and her lifetime risk of dying

[28:55] from the disease, it's approximately 1 in 143.

[29:01] Whereas due to vague non-specific symptoms and the absence of a reliable

[29:06] early detection test, majority of women are diagnosed at stage three or later

[29:13] when the cancer has already spread beyond her ovaries.

[29:17] Whereas although the fifth year or the fiveyear survival rate for stage one

[29:22] ovarian cancer exceeds 90%, only 15% of cases are diagnosed at this early stage.

[29:30] For those diagnosed in later stages, the five-year survival rate drops to below

[29:35] 30%. Whereas, while screening tools such as

[29:39] mammograms and PEP and PEP tests exist exist for breast and cervical cancers,

[29:45] no equivalent screening tests exist for ovarian cancer, making awareness of

[29:50] symptoms and risk factors essential for early intervention.

[29:55] Whereas increased public education about ovarian cancer can help save lives by

[29:59] promoting earlier diagnosis, supporting access to gyneological oncology care,

[30:05] and encouraging research funding for better detection and treatment options.

[30:11] Whereas during the month of September, the city of Litfield Park joins

[30:14] survivors, families, healthcare professionals, adequacy advocacy

[30:19] organizations, and all those committed to raising awareness

[30:24] remembering lives lost and offering hope for a future with better outcomes and

[30:30] ultimately a cure. Now therefore, I, Thomas Elsho, mayor of

[30:34] the city of Isho Park, Arizona, do hereby proclaim September 2026,

[30:40] as ovarian cancer awareness month and encourage all residents to participate

[30:45] in awareness activities where teal and support and engage in conversations that

[30:51] help save lives and support the thousands of families affected by this

[30:55] devastating disease. Dated the 12th day of August, 2026.

[31:01] So Stacy, congratulations for surviving. I got that link. Sorry. Rachel,

[31:06] congratulations for Excuse me. U we appreciate that you came to us and asked

[31:11] to recognize this month of awareness and we hope the best for you and for all

[31:18] those who have ovarian cancer. >> I don't know if you have something you'd

[31:23] like to say. If you do, you're welcome to do that.

[31:26] » Thank you. I do. So, my name is Rachel Sacket Putman and

[31:32] I'm here as a stage three ovarian cancer survivor, thor and advocate and a proud

[31:37] Arizona resident for the past 20 years. Thank you, mayor, and the council

[31:41] members of the city of Lichfield Park for recognizing September as ovarian

[31:45] cancer awareness month and for continuing to support this effort year

[31:49] after year. Arizona is where I built my adult life, my marriage, my career, and

[31:55] my survivorship. So receiving this proclamation from the city of Lichfield

[31:59] Park is so deeply meaningful. Ovarian cancer is one of the deadliest

[32:03] cancers affecting women. Yet it remains one of the most underfunded and least

[32:08] understood. Over 21,000 women in the US will be diagnosed this year and more

[32:13] than 12,000 will lose their lives, which is about a 60% mortality rate. Most

[32:19] women are diagnosed at advanced stages because symptoms are vague and there's

[32:23] still no reliable early detection test. For many of us, that lack of awareness

[32:27] is the difference between catching cancer early and fighting for our lives.

[32:32] I was diagnosed at 38 with a rare subtype called low-grade cirrus ovarian

[32:37] cancer, a chronic disease with no standard of care and an 85% recurrence

[32:42] rate. Like many women, I lost my ability to have biological children. Dreams my

[32:48] husband and I hadn't yet fulfilled. And this year, I've suffered some very deep

[32:52] losses to this disease. Losses that weigh heavily and remind me why

[32:57] awareness is so urgently needed. Every teal light, every social media message,

[33:02] and every proclamation, including yours, helps someone recognize symptoms earlier

[33:07] and brings a muchneeded awareness to this insiduous disease. It truly saves

[33:12] lives and honors those women lost far too soon. Thank you for standing with

[33:16] survivors, honoring the women we've lost, and helping to protect families

[33:21] across the city of Lichfield Park and the great state of Arizona. Your

[33:25] continued leadership makes a real and lasting difference. Together, we can

[33:29] shine a light on this gravely overlooked disease and give hope to the women and

[33:33] families who need it most.

[33:37] » Thank you, Rachel. >> Thank you. and congratulations on the

[33:40] reelection. >> Oh, well, thank you.

[33:43] » You're welcome. >> Move forward in your mission.

[33:46] » Thank you so much. >> This takes us to the next presentation.

[33:51] This is the next one that I'm going to do in the order that I choose to do them

[33:54] with today. And that is to recognize the

[33:58] distinguished service David Lford. I was shocked when I heard that you had

[34:04] retired as our prosecutor. I can't remember a time in which you were not

[34:08] the city's prosecutor. In fact, I was asked by the city

[34:12] manager, but >> one day, how many years has David been

[34:16] our city, you know, city prosecutor? And I I tried to think back and I don't know

[34:21] if it's because I'm older or you've been or if you've just been prosecutor for so

[34:26] long. I couldn't remember literally a time when you were not the prosecutor.

[34:30] I'm sure there must have been a time, but do you recall how many years you've

[34:34] been prosecuting?

[34:37] » Well, I have to excuse me. Uh, [clears throat] going back through that

[34:44] the law firm and whatnot, we have a variety of associates coming through and

[34:50] depending on their level of expertise, some of them were acting as assistant

[34:54] prosecutor. other times when no one was available, it fell upon me to take care

[34:59] of that mess. So, I don't know exactly. I I know if at least the last maybe

[35:06] seven years it's it's been me, but going back, you know, there's different

[35:11] different times. So, it's been a long time.

[35:14] » It has been a long time and we we appreciate your service as prosecutor.

[35:18] We have this plaque for you. We also have to recognize that in addition to

[35:23] being our prosecutor, you have served on our planning and zoning and our design

[35:27] board and so many other things in the city. So, thank you very much.

[35:31] » Thank you. >> Thank you very much.

[35:41] Final comment. been my privilege. Uh 11 in the city. I

[35:49] first saw it. I was working for a restaurant in Londale. My boss had a

[35:54] membership and as part of his membership, he had to

[35:58] spend a certain amount of money every year. Well, he didn't he didn't know us,

[36:04] but he just wanted to come out two days a week and play golf. So, right about

[36:09] the week before Christmas every year, he'd round up the entire firm, take us

[36:14] to lunch over at what is now Reds. That was the first time I ever saw the show.

[36:19] I never heard of it. Didn't know anything about it. Then we went from

[36:24] there and then eventually I ended up where I ended up.

[36:28] But it is a very unique place. You don't find this anywhere else. Like I've been

[36:33] here long time. I told my my wife and I moved here. I think we were trying to

[36:39] add that up. I believe it was 29 years ago, but I wouldn't.

[36:43] But seeing all the trees going down, you know, it's the problem we all face. You

[36:49] have powdery trees. They're a beautiful tree when everything is going well, but

[36:55] they don't do well if they're overload water and wind like you're seeing. And

[36:59] then you have 50 year old trees, you know, like the one by ribbons there that

[37:04] are down. It's really, it's just really unfortunate. But as we go forward,

[37:08] everybody's in favor of keeping it green. So that would be that would be my

[37:13] final comments. But thank you all. I appreciate the opportunity to serve.

[37:19] Thank you very much for your service. >> I make a couple.

[37:27] Yeah, a couple of comments. Uh Dave and I were law partners for more than 40

[37:33] years and longer than as I mentioned at a chamber of commerce function one time

[37:38] longer than any woman has put up with either one of us.

[37:45] » And Dave has prosecuted or been responsible for prosecuting or

[37:50] supervising prosecution since this city was incorporated. and

[37:56] that's been a while ago. So, thank you.

[38:01] » Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you.

[38:07] » Okay, it's going to take take us now to the presentation by our city engineer

[38:12] about

[38:18] processes.

[38:22] » Yes.

[38:31] Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, before I hand the reigns over completely to Ed,

[38:36] uh I'll leave on one last note with the presentation you're about to hear. Uh

[38:42] collaborated with Ed on this presentation so we can get the

[38:45] information right. Want to give a high level overview of pavement management

[38:49] program treatments. uh

[38:53] uh what is pavement management, types of failures, causes of failures, condition

[38:57] evaluations, uh the applications that we do

[39:00] throughout the city and and where we've done in other cities, uh appropriate

[39:04] treatments for different type of failures and then costs.

[39:08] So pain management and predation, it's programmative methods for collecting and

[39:14] using storing data. uh want to create these different steps on what to do with

[39:18] the data, historical data, new data, new technologies. Uh employ the maintenance,

[39:24] preventive, maintenance, and minor rehabilitation treatments throughout the

[39:27] year. And just keeping good roads in good condition because I'll show you in

[39:32] a little bit that there's a chart that kind of summarizes it all. We want to

[39:36] keep good roads in good condition and they aren't as expensive to rehab. And

[39:41] typically what we do is low cost, low impact to the environment. But anybody

[39:46] that's seen a road be reconstructed, that's uh that's the occasional uh

[39:51] remediation that we have to do. And we did a little bit of that this year.

[39:55] So this chart I've used in other presentations in my career. Um the white

[39:59] line is, you know, if you just built a segment of road and just kind of left it

[40:05] uh over a period of time, it's just going to degrade and go down again down

[40:09] as time goes on. the turquoise and the pink line. Uh, every time we do a

[40:15] pavement treatment that's relative to the type of condition that it has, bumps

[40:19] it back up into a different category. Uh, the smaller jumps are things like

[40:23] slurry and smaller treatments. Bigger jumps you see to the far right might be

[40:27] a millon overlay or a heavier slurry type treatment. What our goal is is to

[40:32] never cross the midpoint, which is the O line. When we get to that point, we have

[40:36] to look at it at a different angle. That's where we start doing things like

[40:39] taking the asphalt out or uh rejuvenating the top layer of the

[40:43] asphalt with a new coat.

[40:47] I don't have to go over this whole list. This is just the types of failures. I

[40:51] mean, there's this list is probably twice as long as what I could fit on

[40:54] this page. Um what we did is some common failures that we have here in the city,

[41:01] uh especially in Arizona. Alligator cracking, block cracking like squares,

[41:06] depressions which are ruts in the asphalt, joint reflection cracking,

[41:10] longitudinal down the middle of the street. Um, I highlighted oxidation and

[41:14] raveling. We'll go over that. Those are the most common types of uh degradations

[41:18] that we see here in the city. Everybody knows what pothole is. They rear their

[41:22] ugly heads all the time. Um, and then the transverse scratching. So, I added a

[41:27] couple of pictures kind of put in perspective. raveling is when the top

[41:31] coat top cream of the asphalt wears away the the aggregates and the binders

[41:35] starts coming off the top. Um in reality what happens the first stage is the

[41:40] oxidation. So we start losing the binder and it gets down you got a rough road

[41:46] alligator cracking. So uh the picture on the right is actually Camelback Road. I

[41:51] get a lot of questions on why is Calac Road uh have alligator cracking and then

[41:56] alligator cracking in its basis of definition is a subgrade failure. So

[42:02] anybody that's driven on Camelback Road, it does have a lot of lines, a lot of

[42:06] cracks that we filled. Um and when I say we, I mean MCDOT because that was their

[42:10] road. Um but it doesn't have failures. A really good sub race. So I added the

[42:14] picture on the left. You can see that what's happening is water gets in there

[42:18] uh changes in temperature and we start actually losing uh drivability and the

[42:22] roughness starts really getting in the top corner of that picture is actually

[42:26] asphalt starting to move. So once water gets into these positions in the asphalt

[42:30] you start getting a lot of different kinds of failures that we'll go over

[42:33] here. Uh took some pictures and some other

[42:38] stuff I had in my archives various tracking. We see these throughout the

[42:41] various cities. Block cracking. uh the result of uh tra it's it's mostly

[42:47] traffic related whether it's too much traffic or not enough traffic. We're

[42:50] always trying to find that midpoint on what is the road use when they first

[42:54] design. What is the road going to be used for? We designed for that type of

[42:57] traffic that whether it's heavy trucks, light trucks, cars down the local

[43:01] streets. Uh but in block cracking, which is what we just saw, I just showed the

[43:05] picture in countback. You know, heavy trucks, it was meant for trucks, but not

[43:09] heavy trucks like we seeing all the time. uh that countback road has many

[43:13] types of these feathers. Uh transverse cracking um mostly has to do with

[43:18] temperature changes and we see a lot of that in our local streets. You see a lot

[43:22] of it in Goodyear. Um what happens is it's a different changes in temperature

[43:28] and uh asphalt's a flexible pavement design. So it it moves in chunks kind of

[43:33] like a slowmoving iceberg. Uh when it does crack it moves and then it goes and

[43:38] then it widens back when it gets hot again. and the crack either moves gets

[43:41] bigger or it starts doing uh latinous shifts. Longitudinal cracking, we see a

[43:46] lot of that uh down the middle of the road. So, you know, when they build a

[43:50] street, they can only make the asphalt hopper what 12 ft max. So, it's about a

[43:55] lane at a time. So, when they actually build any street, they kind of put two

[43:59] seams together and then they roll and they try to do their best, but what

[44:02] happens is a crack will show up. One of the reasons why we wanted to shut down

[44:06] the roundabout a couple week and a half ago, almost two weeks now, was to try to

[44:12] avoid this. So, when we sh when we got permission from council to close the

[44:15] roundabout and put the entire surface course all in one lift, we didn't have

[44:20] any what's called a cold joint. So, we don't have as big of a worry to ever see

[44:25] any longitudinal transverse cracks in our surface course. So, we're going to

[44:28] have a good product for a long time. And then of course uh potholes on the

[44:33] right. Um you get a pin hole, small hole, it rains, uh the fines start

[44:39] coming out, the rocks stay behind, it dries out, more traffic comes, kids

[44:43] smell fines, then all of a sudden that pothole just starts growing and growing.

[44:47] Um and then reflective cracking. Uh I just have a picture here that shows a

[44:52] square, but it can be in any shape. What that usually is a result of is when you

[44:57] put a bad subgrade down or a bad base course, you put a surface course over

[45:01] the top of it and then over a period of time with that thermal expansion, the

[45:05] crack show. Uh we actually had a problem on Florence, we mill overlaid it in 23,

[45:13] great surface course, but one year later because we didn't go all the way down to

[45:17] the bottom course um and take it out and put it back in, we have some reflective

[45:22] cracking. So that'll have to be addressed in the next effort.

[45:27] I mentioned this earlier, ringing and heaving. Um that's a picture that kind

[45:32] of just puts in perspective on Camelback Road and areas a little bit further to

[45:36] the east. Uh we don't really have huge ruting along our frontages or our chill

[45:41] streets. Uh but what ring and heaving is caused from there. There's a lot of

[45:49] reasons why it happens, but what I see is when it's a bad surface course, when

[45:55] it's got a lot of oil, when it wasn't put down right, our temperatures get to

[45:59] 120 degrees, got heavy trucks going through here, and then it just creates

[46:03] those tracks. Uh, a benefit to any arterials that have a pretty good mix of

[46:09] passenger vehicles is they kind of iron it out. So that's why I believe Cambeck

[46:15] Road doesn't have such a bad ruting problem is because we have a really good

[46:18] mix of vehicles. But the reason that the ruting happen is because we have the

[46:22] heavy trucks. And then depressions, those are usually localized. Um

[46:26] sometimes we see a longer stretch is usually when there's like a sinkhole, a

[46:30] void. If a contractor put the subgrade down and there was maybe a root ball or

[46:35] some branches and they, you know, degrade and then the fines fall through,

[46:40] he starts to have impressions. You see a lot of those in parking lots.

[46:45] So general cause of failures big list uh biggest things I see uh weather you know

[46:52] the biggest failure we have here in uh in the valley is the oxidizing and the

[46:57] and the raveling and the weather is the first star that UV rays just degrade

[47:01] that top layer of the binder. Um construction techniques sometimes fall

[47:06] short. traffic volumes. I mentioned that before. We have a lot of truck traffic

[47:10] on Cback Road. It really wasn't meant for that amount of volume of truck

[47:14] traffic. Lots of other things. Uh age bind age of the binder. So after a

[47:20] certain amount of time, even though asphalt is a flexible pavement, the

[47:24] binder does become brittle. I mean, you can get 5, 10, 15 years. It depends on

[47:29] the mix that went down and how it was put down. You always hope that when we

[47:34] do asphalt, we get the tests done and we get the lab results and we make sure

[47:38] it's a good um mix. So, up on the hilltop, we have Nesbbit and Hayden

[47:44] doing a lot of testing of those asphalt base courses and surface courses, and

[47:48] I'm checking them, checking them, checking them. We actually do have an

[47:51] issue with one of the pieces of asphalt that we're working on right now with uh

[47:56] Hayden in the parking lot. So, it would have high void content. Um, so we're

[48:01] going to possibly see pavement fatigue a little sooner than we'd like. Um, the

[48:06] answer to that is either have them fully take it out or we're going to put um

[48:10] type two micro seal over the top of it. And then there was another section that

[48:14] we were talking about that friction course was another alternative. So we're

[48:18] going back at them to make sure that the asphalt is going to be in good shape.

[48:21] » Okay. Um and then subgrade the var subgrade and asphalt the gradations of

[48:25] thickness and design of the actual structural section. Those are engineered

[48:30] pieces of an asphalt section. So from the ground up we make sure that that

[48:35] it's qualified personnel doing those designs and they go through the proper

[48:38] reviews and that they're applicable to what they're you don't want to put a

[48:42] localized street section to replace a portion of cab.

[48:50] Uh so payment condition evaluation not going to read everything. Uh you got PCI

[48:54] index, you got automated distress surveys. Uh the pacer evaluation is a

[48:59] smaller scale. It's 1 to 10. And then the PSI rating is 0 to five. So these

[49:05] bottom two, the pacer PSI, I don't really do a lot of those. I don't know

[49:08] if you've done any of those and Scott still. Um usually those are just kind of

[49:12] a quick attack. That's how I kind of define it is because the scale is only 1

[49:17] to 10 or 0 to five. Uh the PCI index is an evaluation from 0 to 100 and it is

[49:22] developed over a long period of time. What you do is you you do an evaluation

[49:27] of a street and you determine what kind of failure it is. And a lot of times

[49:31] especially in older streets there's multiple types of failures. You have

[49:34] transverse cracking, oxidation, ruting, rattling. So every time there is a

[49:40] failure identified within the area you're looking at, you start subtracting

[49:43] numbers from it. And so we start getting into uh numbers that are falling below

[49:48] 100 into the range if you remember the graph I showed you earlier. Um

[49:53] and then the automated distress survey. So that's something Ed and I were

[49:57] talking about. Um Ed did a lot of that in in Scottsdale. We're going to propose

[50:00] to do that here in Lfield Park, but essentially it's having uh these

[50:05] companies that specialize in uh pavement condition evaluations. It'd be good for

[50:09] us to start with the streets department to have a good baseline of our street

[50:13] conditions and having consultants that specify and doing that kind of work is a

[50:17] very good approach to having that baseline number.

[50:21] So PCI index the target is 75 70 to 85. I think that's a generally good range in

[50:26] the valley. um we all kind of I say we the cities and when I was a consultant

[50:33] always uh kind of determined what a good rating was and that's how a lot of

[50:37] cities develop their program is to try to get their street sections into these

[50:41] ranges and there's a direct dollar relation to that so that's why it has

[50:45] such a big impact on um so it prior prioritizes street segments based on

[50:50] whatever the funding is um and their rating and like I mentioned before

[50:55] multiple different types of distresses as you start subtracting more numbers

[50:58] off. Um, and then the fourth bullet is very important because the historical

[51:02] data, I went back as part of doing this, I went back and looked at a lot of our

[51:06] historical uh treatments and in the early 2000s, we actually did a lot of

[51:11] chip seal. Um, it's not something I would have guessed that we would have

[51:14] done in local streets in in a city because usually chip seal is something

[51:18] you do in more of a rural area. I grew up in Jack Rabbit and Camelback and we

[51:22] had dirt roads until the county came in and give us chips seal. thought it was

[51:26] it was the greatest day in the world. Um, but we did a lot of chip seal around

[51:29] here, so it makes a lot of sense on some of the fatigue and and stresses and and

[51:34] failures that we're seeing on some of these local streets because uh we'll

[51:38] start off with a smaller section and then when you go out there and actually

[51:40] look at it, it's, you know, it's huge. It's because it's got all these

[51:43] miniature layers of different kinds of asphalt uh rejuvenation and that can

[51:48] contribute to failures too because it's not a homogeneous one single type of

[51:53] material. and all the pieces are working against each other.

[51:58] Just want to put it into perspective. I got another slide, but uh you can see a

[52:02] nice shiny new road in the top left. Um you know, the PCI of 90 is not that bad.

[52:08] You start seeing some little oxidation. Look at uh and sorry about the pictures

[52:12] are a little light, but in in the middle left one, you can start seeing that

[52:17] there's some raveling. Uh if you zoom in on the picture on the computer, I can

[52:20] see there's a rocks. And then to the far right PCI 60, you're starting to get

[52:24] some hairline cracks and some edge ruting. And then obviously in the bottom

[52:28] two, you can really see those those uh cracks. And every year that we do some

[52:34] sort of pavement replacement, we're having we have streets hovering in the

[52:37] neighborhood of somewhere between a low number and up to 40.

[52:42] Another picture with high high level. Um see the top left again, not shiny road.

[52:48] Um, and then the bottom right, I think that was actually a parking lot. Um, so

[52:54] pavement is a flexible material. It really predicates on if it gets used or

[53:00] doesn't get used because parking lots, culde-sacs, streets that actually don't

[53:03] get traffic, their PCI ratings do go down tremendously.

[53:11] So, uh, wanted to just go over, you know, some applications. We got asphalt,

[53:15] we got overlay, we got full depth, we've got uh patch repairs, trip seal or crack

[53:20] seal. Uh a couple of pictures just to put in perspective for everybody. Crack

[53:24] seal of course. Uh we did a lot of that this last round and as well as type two

[53:29] micro seal. So anytime we do a seal of any kind, whether it's micro seal, a

[53:35] PMM, or there's various other kind of seals, we're going to do a crack seal

[53:39] first um moving forward. So primarily we do uh crack seal um almost every every

[53:46] time you do micro seal you want to do crack seal. If you do micro seal and

[53:50] don't do crack seal things start falling. I know we had a big effort

[53:53] where we put a lot of PMM uh down which we have a picture from the right there

[53:57] and we didn't do a lot of crack seal. Uh I know that that was a lot of feedback

[54:01] got from the constituents and members of council. Um, so I went back and I was

[54:06] talking to Ed and I just want to make sure I wasn't going crazy because uh, a

[54:10] lot of times and a lot of cities don't put a a treatment down before PMM. Uh,

[54:16] we do a lot of that. We did about half and half. So we did do a lot of streets

[54:19] this year with just PMM. Uh, we also want to get it rejuvenated for the next

[54:23] rounds, the next few years. So some of these streets where we put PMM down,

[54:27] we're going to either do uh, some sort of overlay or a thicker coat like a

[54:32] micros. So, we're kind of prepping the street for a future effort all while

[54:35] rejuvenating the oxidiz oxidized street and the and the raveling. Want to keep

[54:41] the the pedals down. The slurry seal fog coat's not a you

[54:47] don't really want to do a lot of that. It doesn't give you many years. You see

[54:50] a lot of fog coats on parking. It's a cheap quickie. It gets maybe two years

[54:55] before that top coat starts oxidizing. Fog coat's not a big thing that you see

[54:59] on the streets.

[55:03] Everybody knows uh pothole and patching. Uh HTME HDMB

[55:08] highdensity mineral bond. Um one of my favorite applications. I know Ed likes a

[55:12] lot. We did that on the village uh before I was in here. Woody did that.

[55:17] Previous city engineer did that HA5. Uh I got to tell you that stuff is still in

[55:22] really good shape today. The downside to it is it's slippery. It's a really quick

[55:28] way you lose friction. Um, I know the previous, uh, one of the previous public

[55:33] works directors, I think, was riding a motorcycle during a rain and slipped

[55:37] out. Came back and said, "We're never doing HA5 again."

[55:41] » That's a story I heard. So, um, it's it's been off the radar for a little

[55:45] while, but um, bang for the buck. It does cost a little bit. It's pretty

[55:49] proprietary. I think Hullberg does that and a couple of people do it, so you

[55:53] have to schedule with them and have them come in. But the amount of times I put

[55:58] that stuff down and the way the streets look these days, that might be a really

[56:01] good um investment option on some of these streets uh that we want to keep

[56:06] that are good streets we want to keep in good condition because you can't put HA5

[56:10] on anything that's lower than I think the 60 [snorts] or 70

[56:14] on the rating. Like I said, chip seal um it's still

[56:19] prevalent. Cape seal is the same thing as chip seal. Just put another layer of

[56:22] asphalt by tumin uh tar on top. We won't be doing that around here, so

[56:28] don't worry about that. Very loud. Asphalt overlay. Uh, for the most part,

[56:34] we don't do a lot of asphalt overlay unless we mill first. So, uh, take one

[56:38] and a half inch or more off and put the same thickness down. Um, I know that

[56:43] when I did a lot of pavement management for the city of Glendel, they wanted to

[56:46] take one inch off and put two inches back on. And so, uh, and and a lot of

[56:52] streets for some reason. and we did some cores and you can see that that's just

[56:56] their preference. Um they had some drainage issues and if we have drainage

[57:00] issues in the same way we're going to have a crown street that's an option we

[57:03] can look at without tearing the whole street out or just add on to it.

[57:07] And then of course pool depth uh removal reconstruction we did that on a few

[57:11] streets. We're going to do that on u another street coming up here at the end

[57:15] of August.

[57:18] Something that we don't see very lot just want to throw um uh up on here is

[57:22] uh cold and place recycled asphalt and hot in place recycled asphalt. I don't

[57:27] know Ed did you do a lot of that in Scottdale still? It's a it's it's a very

[57:33] cost effective way to get large sections of street. So if we wanted to just

[57:37] rejuvenate all of the park, all of Camelback or all of Wigwam in one shot,

[57:41] what happens is that it's all one operation. The truck in the front um is

[57:47] dropping off oil. The milling machine dumps it in there, mixes it. Um the

[57:52] blade picture that you see, it's all based on rotations and how fast it goes

[57:56] on how uh the aggregate is broken up. They inject the emulsion and it comes

[58:01] out asphalt. So they're recycling the asphalt in place and they're rolling it.

[58:06] So this asphalt that you see here just got, you know, chewed up up here. So

[58:11] that is something to consider when we want to go after uh funds for doing

[58:15] countback rope. And then FDR's full depth reclamation.

[58:20] So this asphalt section here takes off the top coat. Full depth reclamation

[58:25] gets all the way down to the asphalt and the sub rate. It actually mixes the AB

[58:30] and the pulverized asphalt and makes it all new asphalt.

[58:37] So just really quick wanted to go over a couple of uh

[58:41] failures in their treatment. So raing oxidation want to do slurs pas micro

[58:45] seals HMV mill and overlay when it's a bad enough situation. Uh when you have

[58:50] real alligator cracking it's full depth replacement. So when we start looking at

[58:54] asphalt and we give the PCI rating, we're going to give it a really low

[58:58] score because that uh when the rock or when the chunks of asphalt start really

[59:02] coming apart and rattling like that, there's no rejuvenate

[59:06] various longitudinal cracks uh block transverse [snorts] reflective. We do a

[59:11] lot of crack seal slurry pment. That's the majority of what we did this last

[59:15] effort. Um, some situations where you have big cracks, which we saw in a few

[59:20] locations, we have a mill and overlay that has to go down full depth and have

[59:23] to bring in fresh asphalt.

[59:27] Bottles again, tear the whole thing out. We did a 15 of them on Camelback Road a

[59:34] couple months ago. um just had big holes after um a lot of use. And so we had a

[59:40] contractor come out after we did the mill and overlay of diceart and they

[59:43] filled 15 spots just cuz potholes just get worse. They don't get any better.

[59:51] I did not do that presentation. So I'm just surprised. Edge cracking or edge

[59:56] failure. That's actually a picture um from here in the city uh that was

[1:00:00] rejuvenated in before I got here. Um, but the answer to that is you either

[1:00:05] mill it all out or take the whole asphalt out. And the the culprit is

[1:00:09] water infiltration. And the reason why I show that picture is because we do have

[1:00:13] a very green city. You have a lot of situations where that does happen. So

[1:00:18] these next couple years, we'll be looking at some of these edge failures

[1:00:20] and trying to repair them. You see a lot of that up in the areas where um, you

[1:00:24] know, Voeva, Acacia, all that area up there has uh quite a few of these

[1:00:28] locations.

[1:00:31] Similarly, uh with these type of fitters, full depth replacement, uh if

[1:00:35] you do have a really good section on these rabbit hung and heaving areas, we

[1:00:39] can't just shave them off. Um more often than not, you got to go deep. And that's

[1:00:44] again another reference of what I think we're going to have to do for Camelback

[1:00:47] Road when that time does come. I got to the last slide. Uh this is a

[1:00:54] cost kind of uh evaluation of the last couple years I found went back to 2006.

[1:01:00] So, I was very surprised at how close some of the unit prices came and

[1:01:05] actually uh some of them uh haven't gone up very much and some has gone down. Now

[1:01:09] the unit price of the first bullet here depends heavily on your square footage.

[1:01:14] Um I can tell you in 2006 we didn't do a lot and in 2023 we did a decent amount.

[1:01:20] Um 2026 we did more than all of those combined

[1:01:24] lifespan of you know we got 15 to 20 years out of every do mill and overlay.

[1:01:30] You can see that the unit price is more expensive. Uh it's worth it if you can

[1:01:35] keep up with the rejuvenation. So like we did u my tainter and

[1:01:42] » it's yeah we did that two three years ago and the next effort we're going to

[1:01:47] put a PMM layer. So that's a brand new asphalt. There's no block track, no

[1:01:50] cracks at all. We're going to rejuvenate it uh for a few dollars a square yard

[1:01:55] and um that asphalt is going to be good for the next 25 years.

[1:02:01] That's it. Uh, I hope everybody enjoyed my last speech until over to Ed. So,

[1:02:08] there are any questions, concerns? >> Mr. Vice Mayor, did you say a couple of

[1:02:14] our streets are double layer chip sealed?

[1:02:17] » Multiple layers from what I can tell from looking at um old uh PMP reports,

[1:02:24] » but they started out as as chip sealer. They I think they're rejuvenating the

[1:02:30] chipset. I can't find a lot of information asphalt is. I do have some

[1:02:35] pictures from the 60s. It's you know black asphalt's going down. I don't know

[1:02:38] how thick it is or what kind of gradation, but there was a big push

[1:02:42] actually in 2006 area where um crack seal was the rejuvenation level that

[1:02:48] went down and I think it was more that cape seal where you put put

[1:02:52] binder down, drop the rocks and another binder and most people wouldn't even

[1:02:56] know that it is [snorts] a chip seal. Those watch

[1:03:03] is the mill and overlay the one where they take the old one up and it's all

[1:03:08] done in the one process. >> U council member the uh the mill and

[1:03:12] overlay. So there's the milling overlay mill in place. The milling overlay

[1:03:16] they'll take off about one and a half inches and then put one and a half

[1:03:18] inches back up. The cold in place recycling is when they take it all out,

[1:03:23] mix it and then inject the hot or the cold asphalt and then put it back down

[1:03:27] right behind it. Where does that fall costwise in this?

[1:03:31] » We have never um done that. So um I have done it before and the the costs are

[1:03:36] comparable to the mill and overlay >> and is it is it something that can be

[1:03:41] driven on eight hours later or? >> Yep. It's it's just like cod asphalt. Um

[1:03:46] we're about to do Cascada um and they'll have an overnight closure, but in all

[1:03:50] reality once they put it down and the temperature goes down to below what does

[1:03:54] it have to be? 160 170 I think once once it's below that temperature you can open

[1:04:00] it traffic. So when the cold in place recycling if we do that on camelback

[1:04:05] road it'll actually go pretty quick because it's not a hot injection of of

[1:04:09] bumment. It's the hot in place um that they have it really heated up and they

[1:04:14] have a fire going and they they really cook it when they put it down.

[1:04:17] » And last question several years ago um ADOT rubberized the freeway. member I 10

[1:04:24] getting rubberized. What is that process and is that something we should consider

[1:04:29] maybe for Camelback Road? >> Council member, uh that is definitely

[1:04:33] always an option. Um there's been a lot of and and ADOT only went rubberized

[1:04:38] forever. Whenever I did a fairway design, you had to put that on. The last

[1:04:42] couple years before I came here, it was always uh we want to do a high traffic

[1:04:47] super paved regular asphalt like/ inch or 38 inch. The the reason why is

[1:04:53] because you're going to get you're it's going to cost a little bit more uh to

[1:04:57] put it down. The problem with ARA CFC and the rubberized asphalt is there's no

[1:05:02] rejuvenation. So once the you can't just slurry it. So in two to five years when

[1:05:08] the asphalt wears and and the sun oxidizes it and you get all the stuff in

[1:05:12] your gutters, you'll have like the top of a Rice Krispie treat is how I like to

[1:05:17] tell everybody. And then it's a little rough. And so I think that's actually

[1:05:21] what they had on Camelback Road and um it's kind of got the remnants of it. The

[1:05:26] only you can do is mill it out and put new asphalt down. A lot of the reason

[1:05:30] why we do AR the rubberized asphalt is for noise and the new 3/4 inch and half

[1:05:36] inch mixes. U there's evac mixes, there's city of Phoenix mixes, and

[1:05:40] there's mag mixes. There's lots of other mixes. Um but the new mixes now have

[1:05:45] decal levels that are very comparable to rubberized asphalt and they can be

[1:05:49] rejuvenated. >> Well, thank you. Um Ed, first of all,

[1:05:55] welcome to the city. I'm so glad that you joined us. We I think are in need of

[1:05:59] a street superintendent. So glad to welcome you to the team. Um Keith, as

[1:06:04] far as the um pavement management plan and the pavement condition evaluation,

[1:06:12] can you take us through how on an annual basis this looks to make sure that all

[1:06:18] of our treat our streets receive treatments every 5 to 10 years? What

[1:06:22] what can our residents expect every year from us?

[1:06:26] » Well, thank you, Council Member Allen. Um so in the past, what we do is uh

[1:06:32] glamorizing it by calling the windshield inspection, but I actually get out of

[1:06:37] the truck when I look at the streets. Um, so there is an actual physical

[1:06:41] evaluation at each street. Um, when a street has a section that might all be

[1:06:46] the same type of failure. If you have to do a lot of crack seal, you isolate it

[1:06:50] by, you know, a 40 or 50 foot section by the width and you evaluate that street

[1:06:55] and then you can choose to do more or less. Um, so we do that on every single

[1:07:00] street section. And when I say each street section, it's between each block.

[1:07:04] So where if you have all of uh you know WigWall, it's going to be uh

[1:07:10] Lichfield to Wigw to to desert, desert to old Lfield all the way down. And we

[1:07:15] do that with every street. So we do an actual evaluation. We do uh an

[1:07:19] evaluation of the historical information uh whether it got slurry sealed or micro

[1:07:24] sealed. And that that plays into the PCI index. We give it a numerical

[1:07:28] evaluation. Um, and there's a small equation that you can do, uh, depending

[1:07:33] if there's multiple failures. So, what we do with that information each year is

[1:07:38] we we have obviously what it's graded, whether the street's got a 60 or a 40 or

[1:07:42] an 80 or 90. If it has high numbers, it's dep prioritized compared to the

[1:07:47] lower number ones. If we have a large number of say 40 or under, like we we

[1:07:53] actually do have a few of those streets, we can either elect to only do removal

[1:07:59] and replacement of that piece of of those pieces of asphalt and not do any

[1:08:03] slurry seal or crack seal or micro sealer or PMM or we break it up like we

[1:08:08] did this last year. So we break it up and we do a complete removal and

[1:08:11] replacement of one street for whatever the cost of and then we can get another

[1:08:16] 100 street sections done with a combination of slurry or micro seal

[1:08:21] crack. So there is a detailed evaluation on how we can manage the funding because

[1:08:28] we can either do all of one kind and catch up in that way over a period of

[1:08:32] time or we can give a little attention to each street and raise the numbers

[1:08:36] over a slower period of time and then have a good baseline which is what it

[1:08:40] has been that's been the approach for the last from what I can tell and my

[1:08:44] predecessor that was his approach and we carry that on. Uh that is a discussion

[1:08:49] that Ed and I had is what is our future approach and I did mention that I think

[1:08:53] what our attack is going to be is we want to come up with the baseline

[1:08:56] evaluation for each street starting day one and that's where we're going to have

[1:09:00] the streets super who has done a lot of that stuff millions and millions of

[1:09:03] miles I hear. So we're going to we're going to take the historical information

[1:09:08] but we're just going to use that as a reference in our new baseline. Once we

[1:09:12] have the baseline of all the streets we're going to prioritize based on the

[1:09:15] available funding. And I've had discussions with the city manager, you

[1:09:19] know, I think this year we have a million dollars. I think we have 600,000

[1:09:22] in her and we have 400,000 in uh capital contingency or general fund. So for a

[1:09:29] million dollars you can either do 150 slurry sections or you can do a

[1:09:36] couple of RNRs and you know maybe 40 or 50 slurry and PMS. So what we're going

[1:09:41] to do is see where we're at in the baseline and how that needs to apply to

[1:09:44] all the street sections. So we are going to go through a detailed analysis. I

[1:09:47] don't have the exact breakup right now because we just got done through the

[1:09:51] whole effort. We spent 1 four million three.

[1:09:57] » Um and I think we got 140 street sections. So which is one of the biggest

[1:10:01] pushes we've had in a long time. So we have a really good baseline now of

[1:10:05] historical information that we can springboard off of.

[1:10:10] » Questions. First, thank you for putting this

[1:10:13] together. A lot of hate. I feel like I just sat in it on school class. There's

[1:10:16] a reason I'm a dumb mover and not an engineer. Uh

[1:10:20] love seeing that we we got a plane going forward and that we got Ed on board to

[1:10:24] to help you manage this and have it go forward. I'm really excited to see how

[1:10:28] we can take it um and elevate everything that we're doing. We've talked about

[1:10:31] that for a long time. I'd love to see us take the opportunity to project three,

[1:10:37] five, 10 years and be able to budget so that we if we see that we're having

[1:10:42] failures in areas that we can ask for budget in advance so that we can plan

[1:10:46] for it and not be reactive to things that are not getting done or that got

[1:10:50] skipped and and have different issues. So Ed Hson, I would love for you to ask

[1:10:54] you to as you're evaluating uh with Keith what we're doing to to look

[1:10:59] forward and to see, okay, this is good for now, but in three years, we need

[1:11:03] this in this space so we can get city leadership to be able to give us real uh

[1:11:08] budget numbers to plan for so we can get these roads where they need to be and

[1:11:12] not have to wait a full 10 year cycle to get everything that's there. But Keith,

[1:11:16] thank you for this. I know it's been a hard push this last little bit and

[1:11:19] appreciate the other concert. Always fun. I love playing an

[1:11:25] » All right. Thank you for your presentation.

[1:11:27] » Thank you. >> Appreciate everybody.

[1:11:30] » All right. That takes us to our next item,

[1:11:36] the presentation set which is a presentation

[1:11:42] Peterson as the 2026 gofo

[1:11:49] a I guess government financial officer a >> finance excellence award which I think

[1:11:56] is going to be presented by the city manager.

[1:11:59] » Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um, mayor and council, we want to take this time to

[1:12:03] recognize Paige that she has received this award. So, annually there are 20

[1:12:08] nominations for this award and there are two that are selected and she was one of

[1:12:12] the two for this year. Um, to me, one of the biggest honors for Paige for this,

[1:12:16] she doesn't mind me saying this, is that who this nomination came from and that

[1:12:19] it came from her own employees. And that says something for her for what they

[1:12:23] think of her and her work relationship with her. And as you guys know, it's

[1:12:27] been said in many council meetings. Paige does a great job as assistant city

[1:12:30] manager, but also as finance director. Paige keeps us keeps our numbers where

[1:12:34] they need to be and lets us know when they're not where they need to be. And

[1:12:37] she does a fantastic job. Makes my life a whole lot easier. And I think she she

[1:12:41] very much deserve this deserves this award. And I think she'd like to have

[1:12:44] things to say, too. But congratulations to Pa. You certainly earned it.

[1:12:55] I just want to say thank you to Maria and Lisa and Monica. They were the three

[1:13:01] that submitted the nomination. I was very touched by it. Very surprised when

[1:13:06] I opened the email that I got the award. I thought they were talking about the

[1:13:09] annual one we get every year and I was like, "Oh, I guess they're going to give

[1:13:13] me the button at the lunchon rather than mail it to me." So, thank you ladies and

[1:13:20] thank thank you Matthew for your support and mayor and council as well.

[1:13:25] » Well, congratulations. We we appreciate all the hard work you put in on our

[1:13:29] keeping our financial statements accurate and all the modeling you do for

[1:13:33] us and help us helping us at making decisions long term. So, thank you. And

[1:13:38] it's great that you were recognized for your work by others. Thanks.

[1:13:41] » Thank you. Every time we think

[1:13:45] she can't get any better, she gets better.

[1:13:50] » There's no place left to go. She >> she rises.

[1:13:56] » All right, that takes us to our report section. All the reports are in the

[1:14:00] packet. If you have questions about them, please direct those functions of

[1:14:07] I don't think there are any that we need updates on specifically. Then we're

[1:14:11] going to go to the consent agenda item 8A approved

[1:14:16] eight. Is there an item on consent that council memb

[1:14:23] » a anything else? Is there a motion to adopt consent

[1:14:28] agenda items 8 B through H. So move second.

[1:14:34] » Second. >> All those in favor please say I.

[1:14:37] » I. Any opposed? Items B8 are adopted. Sent item A. Vice

[1:14:45] Mayor, you have a question you would like to discuss.

[1:14:48] » Uh, yes. The minutes of the meeting June 17th where we adopted the final budget.

[1:14:54] Says a motion was made by none and I seconded it. You

[1:14:58] » did a good job. [laughter] >> It's our it's our budget. So probably

[1:15:04] probably ought to get that fixed and made correct. I think that's on page 94

[1:15:09] and then on 98 uh which is the same meeting June 17th

[1:15:15] meeting um fiscal year salary range schedule and position roster mover or

[1:15:21] none seconded

[1:15:25] what's that word >> second

[1:15:29] council member Braard Watson so probably ought to find who made that motion stick

[1:15:34] it in there also >> correct

[1:15:36] break >> or approve as amended.

[1:15:41] » I'm sorry. >> Approve as amended. So bring a motion to

[1:15:49] bring back the

[1:15:54] we

[1:16:00] » just this the June 17 minutes, right? the rest of them.

[1:16:05] » Page 94 and 98 of our packet. June 17th

[1:16:13] » uh special meeting June 17th regular meeting

[1:16:21] » approve the rest.

[1:16:25] » So we could approve if we wish the >> July 9th special meeting. So we can

[1:16:30] approve July June 3rd and then July 9 27 30 26 special meetings. So we need a

[1:16:38] motion to approve items on on item 8A. We're going to approve items uh June 3rd

[1:16:46] 26 work study session minutes July 9th 27th and 30th special meeting

[1:16:53] minutes and refer the June 17th special and

[1:16:59] regular meeting minutes back to the city clerk for for corrections. Is there a

[1:17:05] motion for that? >> Any further discussion? All those in

[1:17:10] favor please say I. I >> all right it

[1:17:17] that takes care of our business section. We do not need an executive session.

[1:17:21] » No sir, Mr. Mayor.

[1:17:26] » We Sorry, sir. We do need a short executive session.

[1:17:28] » I'm sorry. >> I'm sorry, sir. We do need a short

[1:17:30] executive session. >> You need to speak more quickly.

[1:17:33] » Yes, I'll try. >> Maybe slower with the gaffles

[1:17:38] for get out of here before 8:30. Okay. Okay, then we're going to bring the

[1:17:43] meeting back to order so we can weigh ourselves in executive session. Motion

[1:17:47] move which under which item executive session A or B?

[1:17:51] » AB or B, sir? >> B. So, is there a motion to go in

[1:17:54] executive session? Item 10 E. >> Have a second.

[1:18:00] » All those clear say I. Any opposed? All right, we're going to

[1:18:04] executive session.

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