[0:00] Okay, I'd like to call this regular board of public affairs meeting to order

[0:03] of August 18th. Please stand for the Lord's prayer and pledge of allegiance.

[0:09] » Our Father, Lord in heaven, be thy name, thy kingdom, thasses

[0:22] as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation, but

[0:27] deliver us from evil. and the kingdom, power, and glory forever. Amen.

[0:35] » Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[0:40] republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:47] justice for all.

[0:51] » Roll call, please. >> Peterson,

[0:54] » present. >> Michael Sullivan,

[0:55] » here. >> Stanley Zack,

[0:57] » here. Darren Biggs >> here.

[0:59] » Slarski present. Chris Gilnik and Matt Reese

[1:03] » here. I'll make a motion we excuse Chris Gnick.

[1:07] » Okay. >> All in favor?

[1:10] » I opposed. Motion passed. Approval and correction of the minutes. Uh did

[1:15] everybody get a chance to review the minutes for June 16th?

[1:18] » I'll make a motion to approve. >> Second.

[1:20] » All in favor? I opposed. Motion passed. I'll make a motion we accept the meds

[1:26] for July 7th. Second. All in favor? I >> opposed. Motion pass. Cindy, do we have

[1:32] any correspondence? >> No. Okay. Any public comments?

[1:36] [clears throat]

[1:38] Any public comments? Okay. Seeing none, on to new business. The first item is a

[1:44] master service agreement for professional services by Bernandez for a

[1:47] water rate study update for the BPA. Well, these since we just got these, I

[1:54] think we should hold them at least. >> Yeah. Till I the first I saw this. So,

[2:00] okay. If we can move actually the uh

[2:06] actually at least the first four then the tank resolution. I still have to

[2:11] talk about that some. So, >> okay. You okay with that?

[2:15] » Okay. We'll just make a motion to >> We have to make a motion to table this

[2:19] table. Um, it's on the agenda, so you can make a motion to table it. Okay,

[2:25] I'll make a motion we table item 1 through 4. Is that okay with you guys?

[2:30] » Yes, I'll second that. >> Second. All in favor?

[2:32] » I posted. Motion passed. Okay. Item number five, a resolution

[2:39] recommending the village council authorize the village of Lordstown to

[2:42] execute an agreement with utility service co. industry for maintenance and

[2:47] tank asset management for the village of Lordstown own water storage tank

[2:55] to approve it. >> Do you think you want to move ahead with

[3:01] this? >> Yeah.

[3:03] I don't think we got a choice. >> Yeah. This is the gentleman that came in

[3:07] and gave the presentation. >> Yeah. Was it June 16th Aaron?

[3:11] I think that the resolution or his agreement said January 1st.

[3:17] » Did I miss Am I wrong? >> It's effective January 1st.

[3:22] » I I Yeah, let me check the contract. I think she's right though. I'm pretty

[3:27] sure it said cuz I remember I do remember him saying like this has to be

[3:30] done in August, but yet the contract date is January 1st is the way that it's

[3:34] drafted. Mhm. And I don't I don't know who requested

[3:40] it, but number four under new business was for them to review.

[3:44] » Yeah. >> For Dantis to review that. So, whoever

[3:46] requested that, that review has not been done or

[3:51] authorized yet. >> Okay.

[3:54] » Do we need for Dantis to review it?

[3:59] » I I don't see why you wouldn't. >> Okay.

[4:03] Where are you? Where where are we referring to?

[4:06] Number four. >> Number four.

[4:09] » Oh, okay.

[4:15] I see. Yeah. I mean, I could tell you this is

[4:20] basically the same scope of work that was previously approved by the BPA with

[4:25] with some additional changes under the master services agreement. But

[4:32] yeah, Darren, if you're comfortable with it, Matt, if you're comfortable with it.

[4:35] I don't think you need Bernandez to >> Yeah, I don't see it. It m It's the same

[4:40] agreement. We're just switching it from the 500,000 gallon to the 3 million

[4:44] million. >> Yeah, we canled the 500,000 one because

[4:47] it was surface. So, we saved ourselves some money until we got this up and

[4:52] going. Warranties are all running out. We need to get a agreement for the

[4:57] maintenance, the wash outs, any anything that needs it needs done with our new

[5:01] tank now. >> Okay.

[5:04] » But do we need to uh instead of putting number four on hold, should we just uh

[5:10] remove it? >> I would say I don't see a reason for

[5:14] them to redo it. I mean, Darren and Matt are okay with it.

[5:21] » You want a motion on that? >> Yeah. Originally when this was done

[5:25] before I was solicitor, I know my the former solicitor recommended doing a

[5:30] request for proposal and having and and having Verdantis review this

[5:36] [clears throat] before we entered into the initial master services agreement.

[5:40] There are statutory exceptions that we don't need to do that. We don't need to

[5:43] bid. We don't need to go to request for proposal. So it was kind of um

[5:47] » So maybe they thought they had to review it.

[5:50] » That's how it was done last time. It's it's an either or under the Ohio Revised

[5:54] Code. We could do a request for proposal or we could negotiate directly for these

[5:58] services like we did here. And in fact, even the first time I think in 2017,

[6:03] there was a little bit of push back within the village. Why do a request for

[6:06] proposals? Pretty much the only company that's going to really do this type of

[6:10] work anyway. It's going to waste everyone's time. So, the thought was

[6:14] based on some of my emails to you last month or and Darren as well, let's just

[6:18] move forward. We don't have to by law do a request for proposal. So without the

[6:22] request for proposal process, I don't know what Verdantis would be reviewing.

[6:26] » Okay. >> So we need to go back and review number

[6:31] four completely. >> Yeah.

[6:33] » So I'll make a motion. >> Yeah, that makes sense to me. So I guess

[6:38] I'll make a motion not to do the master service agreement.

[6:42] » I'll second that. >> Second. All in favor?

[6:45] » I >> I don't quite understand.

[6:48] We're not going to have a master agreement on the

[6:54] » No, all this was is redandis was going to review the contract. That's Yeah,

[7:01] unless Darren unless there's something else that they would need to review like

[7:04] their this company's services or anything for maintaining the tanks. My

[7:08] understanding is the originally when this was done they were just reviewing

[7:12] the request for proposals and I think there was only one response anyway and

[7:15] making recommendations which we're not doing this. There's nothing I could

[7:18] think of that that would that we would need them to review or uh any

[7:22] maintenance problems or anything I have. I I don't go through our engineers

[7:25] anyway with that. So I I I I can't think of anything where our engineers would be

[7:30] needed. >> Okay.

[7:32] » So >> it sounds like just a continuation of

[7:34] the >> contract. Yes.

[7:37] » They haven't really there's been a few other

[7:39] » Yeah. We're just adjusting the contract to a new tank.

[7:41] » Exactly. >> So Okay.

[7:44] » So motion second. All in favor? All right.

[7:47] » I >> I opposed. Motion passed. Okay.

[7:53] So, number five. Are you okay with moving forward with that? Send that to

[7:57] council. Yes. I'll make a motion we move the

[8:01] resolution for the u utility service company for the asset

[8:06] management of the 3 million gallon water tank. Okay. I'll second it.

[8:14] Roll call. do roll call since the resolution?

[8:19] » No. >> Okay. All in favor?

[8:21] » I I posted motion passed. >> Okay. Any other new business?

[8:29] Seeing none. Old business, utility department

[8:33] building. >> Very old business.

[8:35] » Mark, I'm sure you have good news for us, right?

[8:38] » No. >> Okay. [laughter]

[8:42] Um the mayor in part of her report last

[8:48] night mentioned that issue and essentially

[8:56] it started with this building over here and the move

[9:01] over there and then um the conungle building um

[9:09] » tore Yeah, but Matt uh told us some

[9:13] information which she was going to put that on hold. And then the third thing

[9:16] she brought up is and it was actually was in response to a residents what was

[9:22] going on with the facilities and with regard to

[9:30] the BTA water department. Um, see, and don't quote me, but it was

[9:36] somewhere along the line that the the water department could eventually move

[9:41] into >> fire department.

[9:43] » The fire department and she and and the fire chief are working on finding a

[9:51] place for the new safety service building. I don't know. I haven't had a

[9:56] chance to speak with her anymore. Wasn't wasn't there something about they were

[10:01] going to hire a person to come in to look at all the buildings and no the

[10:11] only only person that that they've hired so they me

[10:16] um have done so far is the architects for the library. Um, there has been a

[10:22] suggestion that council do that, do a comprehensive, but that hasn't been

[10:28] decided. Um, that I know. I don't know if you've

[10:32] heard it, Matt. >> Yeah, it's kind of goofy.

[10:35] They're taking care of that and talking about

[10:39] looking for property for the fire station.

[10:43] » Fire and police station, right? uh and then

[10:49] Darren moving into the fire station, but no

[10:55] uh mention about what would happen with this building. Now, there was no

[11:00] discussion about that at all. And um

[11:07] I can't [laughter] I don't know what to say on that issue.

[11:10] I I was under the impression that we were going to come back cuz we had a

[11:13] work session. I was under the impression, which could be mistaken, you

[11:18] know, that we were going to come back and and uh do that again and see where,

[11:24] you know, where we were at this point. I don't know that that's going to occur.

[11:30] But at this point, to answer your question,

[11:34] um >> there is no answer. It sounds like to me

[11:38] » the answer only answer I heard is when the fire department moves

[11:43] » uh the water department could move into possibly

[11:49] the old fire station. >> But that would be I would think years

[11:54] away. >> I would think um just from and again

[11:59] this is just from what I >> don't even know where they're going to

[12:02] put it. >> No. Um, but uh I I would think that that

[12:06] building that move for the fire department is going to take several

[12:11] years. >> That's been my experience with fire

[12:15] departments. >> So then the water department would

[12:17] probably stay here >> on this building.

[12:21] » Um, and I I'm not sure about that. But again,

[12:27] everybody's moving over there. There will still be that office in the back.

[12:34] uh for the water department.

[12:39] Okay. >> And honestly,

[12:42] as I said, I was under the impression that we would do another work session or

[12:47] something along or maybe one of the committees would handle uh the

[12:52] discussion of the facilities, but I haven't heard again. So,

[13:01] any more questions on that? Seeing none,

[13:05] um item number two, Imperial Water and Sewer Agreements. I know

[13:10] » we're going to have a meeting down. >> We're going to have a meeting down

[13:13] another couple months, right, where we talk about we talked about

[13:16] » sometime in the fall. Yeah. Okay.

[13:21] Uh item number three, new 24 in water line.

[13:26] Darren, do you have any updates from Chris?

[13:28] » Not not major updates. I have seen some emails where they're reaching out to

[13:33] Ohio Edison checking on the easements. Um but I think that's that's where

[13:39] they're at trying to get on property and see how they can make that whole thing

[13:44] work. >> Okay.

[13:45] » Coming coming down that way other than that.

[13:48] » Okay. So there if you're seeing emails that

[13:51] means there's work being done behind the scenes.

[13:55] » I do have a question about >> Matt

[14:00] the right away on the um uh MBSD property.

[14:08] Uh because I'm doing some of the I'm contracting land owners, but I don't

[14:12] have to go see them, do I? >> No. So, what we'll do is um and I I was

[14:16] talking to MVSD's attorney, Tom Wilson, about this. Um they've already consented

[14:21] to this. What'll happen is once we determine exactly where that line's

[14:26] going to go, um uh Verdantis will need to prepare the legal descriptions. Then

[14:33] I'll incorporate those into formal easements, and then those will have to

[14:36] be approved by uh basically a vote of the board at MBSD that'll be attached to

[14:42] it. But they've been very MVSC has been very clear. We're not going to share any

[14:46] any of the expense of this or prepare any of this stuff. You guys get it done,

[14:50] send it to us, and we'll approve it is basically what their representations

[14:53] have been to us. But they're not going out of pocket for anything. So once

[14:56] Chris has that information as to where exactly the line's going to be, I can

[15:00] prepare the easement and then they'll approve it by resolution for MVSD.

[15:09] » Any more questions on that? Item number four, clean energy future

[15:14] Trumbo LLC sanitary sewer in Northtown Ohio EPA PTI. I'm assuming probably no

[15:20] updates. >> Yeah, I mean there's no updates. We have

[15:22] a scheduling order. Um hearing is not until next May. So it's we're basically

[15:29] with the appeal right now on that. So >> Okay. Any questions from Matt on that?

[15:34] » Uh rules and regulations governing water use and service.

[15:39] I didn't hear any updates from the person on that. Okay.

[15:42] » Um that was under new business number three. That was one.

[15:45] » Yeah, that's more the one that we held up on. Uh item number six, Nile's bulk

[15:51] water agreement. I don't have any updates on that. The last time I talked

[15:54] to Niles about anything was just consenting to the 24in line and they

[15:58] gave their consent um which didn't require an amendment of the agreement.

[16:02] So, I mean, if there's if you guys want me to continue to push that issue about

[16:09] getting clear language with Niles, I mean, problem is this. We have we

[16:13] already have a contract that's been approved by our council and their

[16:16] council. Every time I reach out to them, there's no motivation from the law

[16:21] director to really advance this at all because they don't think that council

[16:24] will approve an amendment or change to the bulk agreement. So there there's not

[16:30] much more I can do uh other than just say here here's the changes that we want

[16:34] but I've already revised the language in the agreement and sent it to them and I

[16:37] followed up with them and I just you know

[16:40] » I don't understand [clears throat] why their council if they're interpreting it

[16:43] for the largest portions of water we buy at a cheaper rate

[16:50] if if we go into this new line with their beliefs that it's you you know,

[16:57] MBSD rate plus 10% or whatever. They're selling it to us cheaper. So,

[17:05] I don't want to be negative, but we could argue, well, no, we thought we

[17:07] were going to get it for a lot less. >> I mean, I' I've even pointed out to them

[17:11] that not only is their interpretation wrong, but they would we would have a

[17:15] huge credit under their interpretation. And I just I don't know if anyone's even

[17:19] really like I don't even know if they're really looking into this that much or if

[17:22] it just goes in one ear, not the other. >> Yeah. And that that's my uncertainty on

[17:26] it is like as we build the sign and prepare to build the sign that should be

[17:31] set in stone. We should know >> exactly where we're at.

[17:34] » Yeah. Cuz you know, I hate to say this, but right down the road is the city of

[17:38] War. What would they sell us water for? We don't want them to want to open that

[17:43] agreement after the fact and then say, "Well, we want to increase that water

[17:47] rate." We know MBSD might be increasing that rate. That's that's known. But

[17:53] I think >> yeah, I agree. I I'll push back and I'll

[17:57] but I I will push back and I'll say, you know, given this 24inch redundant line,

[18:00] we need to make sure we get the language cleared up in the agreement. But at the

[18:04] end of the day, if they just keep ignoring me, the only thing the only

[18:08] real legal remedy would be to file an action in court for a declaratory

[18:12] judgment to have the court interpret the contract for us. And I mean, that'd be a

[18:15] lawsuit. Basically, it's it's where you have two people that don't agree on an

[18:19] interpretation of a contract say, "Judge, we need you to decide what this

[18:23] contract means." But if they keep ignoring me, that's that's the only

[18:26] legal remedy we have. >> Yeah. And I can't,

[18:29] » you know, force council to do on Nile city council to do anything or force the

[18:33] law director to present it to, you know, the city.

[18:36] » You guys want me to keep pushing and try and see if you can get clarification?

[18:41] » I would think so. >> Yeah.

[18:44] As it stands, it's in our favor. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean,

[18:47] » if if we met with Nile, if their council was giving them push back, our

[18:52] interpretation is at a higher rate. >> Yeah.

[18:56] » I don't I don't see the resistance. I mean, that it's a little bit backwards,

[19:01] but I mean, it is how we interpret it, the examples in the document, and you

[19:07] know, like Matt said, it it is the way >> Yeah. Yeah, it's written

[19:13] » and and I provided them that breakdown showing that we have a credit under

[19:16] their interpretation. And I said, you know, I know this is going to this is

[19:20] difficult, I guess, maybe to convey to council to approve. But me, if you show

[19:23] them these numbers, they'll realize, you know, that this is not somebody arguing,

[19:28] well, we want to pay less or we want more money back. We just want to be on

[19:31] the same page with everybody, make sure we have clarity.

[19:34] » Um, >> so I I will reach out to them again.

[19:37] Okay. >> Any more questions on that?

[19:42] Seeing none, item number seven, Trumbo Energy Center, Warren Waterline. And we

[19:46] have an action item record drawings. I do not think Chris has received the

[19:52] drawings yet, I'm guessing. Um I don't know if

[19:58] Are we to the point that we need to have Matt reach out to him to get the

[20:00] drawings? >> I think they said they were working on

[20:04] them. It's just a matter of the time that it takes to complete. I don't And

[20:08] they were doing the rest. He said like some of the restoration and

[20:12] » I I would I'm not real sure. I don't want to answer for Chris probably before

[20:15] we ask Matt to do anything. >> Yeah. I'd rather Chris say, "Hey, I'm to

[20:19] the point that I need >> Correct.

[20:21] » Yeah. >> You guys okay with that?"

[20:23] » Yeah. But the part I don't understand is you installed a water line.

[20:27] » Yeah. They have drawings. >> You have drawings. You have to have

[20:29] drawings. >> Yes, they have drawings.

[20:31] » They just Well, put it over there. I guess a little bit over there. I mean,

[20:34] it's >> Yeah.

[20:35] » What's the You know, what's the problem? I don't understand.

[20:40] They correct any as built and then >> that should update

[20:44] » that should have been done long time ago.

[20:45] » Yeah, the water line's been in since what? October, November.

[20:49] So, yeah. Okay, we'll hold off on that till we

[20:54] talk to Chris. Uh, Trumbo Energy Center sanitary sewer that's [clears throat]

[21:00] » Yeah, that's that's same thing under the EPA fuel.

[21:04] » We could probably combine them too, couldn't we? Yeah, I mean it's it's the

[21:07] same thing. One plays into the other. I mean, if we you know, we're saying they

[21:11] shouldn't be able to discharge into Mud Creek and that they should have to

[21:14] follow our local or our rules and regulations and discharge into our sewer

[21:19] rather than in Trumble County. So, >> okay.

[21:23] » Okay. Any questions for Matt on that? Item number

[21:28] » just for clarification, you want me to remove number eight and all you guys

[21:33] okay? >> Yeah, I'd say combine them. Yeah,

[21:35] combined. [clears throat] >> Uh, item number nine, proposed Hikon

[21:40] Road waterline improvements.

[21:45] So, I've circulated you guys this master

[21:49] funding agreement and I actually I spoke to their uh attorney today uh as

[21:54] recently as today. There there's two main issues. Um,

[22:00] so under this master funding agreement, it's for the it's for the water line

[22:04] that they're going to fund as well as traffic control lights um that they're

[22:10] going to fund. The main issue is this 200,000 gall per

[22:15] day. They're telling me, "Well, if you guys can only commit to 200,000 gallons

[22:20] per day, that's fine, but we don't want there to be an exclusivity provision

[22:24] where we exclusively have to buy from the village because if we have other

[22:28] tenants here on this in this facility that have more water usage needs that we

[22:33] can't provide to them under this contract, we need to be able to go to

[22:36] another source or remove the exclusivity provision

[22:40] and we don't we don't put a cap in there on how much you guys are going to

[22:44] provide, which nobody wants to do because we don't know what their future

[22:46] water needs are. We can't overcommit to something. So, what we were proposing

[22:51] when I was talking to her and I talked to the mayor about this a little bit, we

[22:54] were thinking maybe some middle of the road language where we will get we will

[23:00] provide exclusively up to 200,000 gallons per day. In the event that they

[23:05] need more and we refuse to provide it with provide them with additional water,

[23:10] then the exclusivity provision is removed for

[23:14] any excess amount above the 200,000. However, in the event that down the road

[23:19] we're able to provide them more than that 200,000, if there's a change in

[23:23] course, change in decision, then we have the right basically the

[23:28] first option to to sell them the water to sort of, you know,

[23:33] » regardless even if they were buying off of Warren, it still has to go through a

[23:39] » right. Yeah. And and I've already explained to them there's there's no

[23:42] contractually there's no right. I mean, the city of Warren and the village would

[23:45] have to agree. correct >> by you know the legislative authority

[23:48] would have to approve another contract and everybody's on the same page with

[23:52] that at least the city of Warren and Lordstown are based on the document

[23:55] trail and I've explained that to them and I don't think that they were aware

[23:58] of that until a couple of months ago because their lawyers are reaching out

[24:01] to me saying is this true can you give me yeah here's a letter from the city of

[24:04] Warren acknowledging that the agreement is terminated here's the contract

[24:08] showing it terminated when GM ceased operations any water supplies on an

[24:12] informal basis that's not you know there's no legal support for so they

[24:16] understand that. Um but yeah, their concern is committing

[24:22] to ex, you know, agreeing that we're the exclusive provider and at the same time

[24:26] agreeing to a cap. They're worried that they could hamstring themselves. I mean,

[24:30] they have another tenant looking at the facility and they don't even really know

[24:33] much about that tenant when I talk to them, let alone what their water needs

[24:36] are or anything else. So, um, >> with that being said, do they understand

[24:42] that Warren supplied General Motors water prior to Lordstown Energy C

[24:48] Center's construction and then providing 2 and a half million gallons a day to

[24:53] Lordtown Energy Center. I don't know the capacity of the Warren line, but General

[24:59] Motors left LAC come in. That line is what feeds Lordtown Energy Center. The

[25:04] longer they delay the construction of the line around the plant, the longer

[25:08] they may not have the water they need for that future tenant. I just don't

[25:13] want them to be like unclear. LEC pulls a triple or quadruple the amount of

[25:20] water that General Motors ever did at its maximum.

[25:23] » Yeah. >> So, they may not have the ability to get

[25:28] much more water regardless. >> Yeah. Warren may not have the capacity

[25:32] either. And that is exactly why they acknowledge that the General Motors

[25:36] contract and their commitment to that site ended with when General Motors

[25:42] left. >> Yeah.

[25:43] » So I don't I just want to be forthright with Fox Con what whoever's over there,

[25:51] you know, this has went on for months and if they need that water soon they

[25:56] held it up. I mean it's we're talking about what we can provide. D can move

[26:01] water different directions, but >> yeah, I see they're ready to go there

[26:04] because they got all the pipes on the ground over there. All their water lines

[26:09] are all sitting there staged that they're uh they're redoing the fire loop

[26:13] over there. >> Yeah. Is that what they want?

[26:15] » I believe so. Yeah. >> I I have told them that you try to

[26:19] explain with that loop going around. We can supply from different both sides.

[26:25] anywhere coming down Todd Avenue if they got a break from Warline they're done

[26:29] until >> they're done. Yeah,

[26:30] » they're done. I have told them that. >> But I stockp doesn't know that. Fox

[26:37] » I I can't answer that. I I was talking to Foxcon. Correct. Where it went from

[26:42] there. I don't you said Sony was coming in the next council meeting.

[26:47] » Next council meeting they said that what is the name of it? suffering.

[26:53] » Yeah, they're coming. Sean council,

[26:58] » I believe so. He's out of DC, right? I believe it's Sean.

[27:01] » Yeah. >> Yeah. The mayor and I spoke. So, this is

[27:04] the second component. So, there's getting this paragraph rewarded is the

[27:08] only thing holding up at least, you know, massaging the language of this

[27:11] agreement. But the other concern is that just all of these data center rumors

[27:17] that we've been hearing and we've been contacted by a company called DSG Group

[27:21] says we're hiring employees for the Foxcon facility to build a data center.

[27:25] Um there was an article in the business journal about a modular data center

[27:29] going in there last week. So there's just everybody's telling us it's not a

[27:33] data center uh or everyone telling us it is a data center except for Foxcon and

[27:38] SoftBank. And I talked to them again today and I said listen I said I I told

[27:42] them about all the different rumors you know everything that we were hearing

[27:47] they once again reiterated this is not [clears throat]

[27:50] a full-scale data center this is a proof of concept you know showroom to

[27:55] manufacture data center components and I said you're not putting a full-scale

[27:59] data center they said no we are not we we are sorry that this is you know

[28:02] getting so out of control with the rumors um but I it's at the point where

[28:09] I talked to the mayor said somebody from Soft Bank because we've only been

[28:11] talking to Foxcon. Soft Bank ultimately [clears throat] funds the owner of the

[28:15] property and SoftBank and Foxcon is one partner/tenant

[28:19] and um I said somebody from SoftBank needs to come here and talk to council

[28:24] as a whole and talk to the public before anybody makes a decision on the master

[28:28] funding agreement. And and I think that's kind of the bigger break that

[28:31] we're hitting right now because we we can't keep going off of well the

[28:35] engineer or the mayor or the solicitor talked to this one person and this is

[28:38] what they said. I mean I think council needs to hear as a whole. Um and so is

[28:44] the public so they can ask questions and make a decision if if they really want

[28:47] to move forward with the agreement. So um that's that's the bigger issue.

[28:52] Getting this, you know, this exclusivity provision and everything reworked is the

[28:57] other issue. um you know but will that help if we have a conversation with him

[29:04] or no because you're done lawyers? >> I mean it it can't hurt but I from the

[29:09] lawyer's perspective they don't want to say all right we'll agree to 200,000

[29:13] gallons per day and you guys are exclusive provider because now they

[29:17] won't be able because now if they have a tenant that that they have a ten that

[29:20] wants more I I get it. They just want to be able to say, "I just don't want to

[29:25] create a back door down the road that >> Warren could run."

[29:30] » Yeah. Without anybody saying it's okay. >> I guess that would be my fear.

[29:35] » It would have to be based upon our refusal to provide them anything more

[29:39] than 200,000. And then there would still have to be approval and everything to

[29:43] run the to run the water line, but it would it would have to be because we're

[29:46] telling them we're not going to provide you guys with any with 200 thou more

[29:50] than 200,000 gallons per day. Okay. Um, the other concern they had is they

[29:56] said, "Well, what if what if you guys just start increasing the water rates?"

[30:00] And I explained, I said, "No." I said, "The water rates are set by our rules

[30:02] and regulations, but the BPA approves it across the board. They're not we don't

[30:06] charge, you know, higher rates based on the type of business." I said, "Now,

[30:09] there are water service agreements, which are an option, which would be, you

[30:13] know, a lower rate depending on volume, but there's no requirement right now

[30:16] that we enter into that with them." But they had concerns that we would just

[30:19] unilaterally jack up their rates too for some reason.

[30:22] » We have one rate throughout the village residential.

[30:25] We did have a decreasing tier, but no matter where the source is, whether it's

[30:30] Niles Water or Warren Water, the customer's rate is the same. We pay the

[30:36] the difference, you know, >> and I I explain the rate's not going to

[30:40] be different for you just because of the type of business. said the only way it

[30:44] would be different is if we had some type of specific agreement with you

[30:46] guys, which would be subsequent to this master funding agreement. But so I'm

[30:51] trying to work on language and ultimately I mean you guys are going to

[30:54] have to decide what you want to recommend for council and council's

[30:56] going to have to approve it. if you're okay with this 200,000 cap and giving it

[31:01] as exclusivity and only in the event that we refuse to provide them with any

[31:05] more water um can they go look for other sources and then if we subsequently

[31:10] decide we are going to provide you with more water that they would have to you

[31:13] know discontinue service from the city of Warren but as of right now that's the

[31:18] language that we're looking at >> I think that would be fine long as they

[31:23] don't get locked >> they should you can't really stop them

[31:26] from doing business and we don't want to say, "Well, you got to shut off because

[31:31] we can't give you the water." But you have to go to the other source. I'm

[31:34] fine. But soon as we're able to, no choice. You got to come back.

[31:39] » Yeah, I'm fine with that. >> I'm okay with that. As as long as it's

[31:43] ironclad and we're protected, I'm I'm good with

[31:46] » Yeah, me too. >> Okay.

[31:48] » So, that's that and that's what they're going to present to council. And could

[31:52] it be addressed by no matter what they are our customer where we choose to pull

[31:57] their water supply from is our discretion if we if we allowed a

[32:04] secondary connection until >> correct. Yeah. They can't just go to war

[32:07] and say hey we want more water. >> It's up Yeah. They just need to inform

[32:10] us of anticipated increased needs and as the water line's being built if we do

[32:17] get that higher volume. It it's a mute point. Okay.

[32:20] » With what we can supply, correct? >> Well, there there there's a lot of

[32:24] things with that. One, you know, we got to keep up with how both places are

[32:28] treating two. You can't turn one off and turn the other one back on. That that

[32:32] that cannot happen. Okay? So, it's not going to be that simple. Now, Foxcon

[32:37] came to us and said, "Hey, 142,000 right before. Can we do better?" Which I

[32:45] ran the numbers and did a lot better and they're still not happy. So, I don't

[32:48] know. I I think they're not looking for a number. They're looking for don't

[32:52] restrain us at all. >> That they're looking for flexibility and

[32:55] options. Yeah. >> I We can't do that right now till we get

[32:58] this other 24 in and make sure everything's going fine. You know, we

[33:01] needed that 24. We need another tank. We didn't get it. This is the situation

[33:05] we're in now. Just here recently, there was another company that came to zoning

[33:10] and was asking about, "Hey, how about over 200,000 more a day? Can we get

[33:15] that?" So, we're still got new businesses plus

[33:18] businesses that are here. So, as far as unlimited

[33:23] water for somebody, we we're not at that. I I cannot let

[33:28] » Yeah. You can't promise it. >> Can't get it.

[33:31] » You know, I mean, we we got other things that we could run out real quick. I gave

[33:36] the example. Did you see the email, Chris? Okay. The example was I got 45 ft

[33:41] in that tank right now. 2 and 1/2 hours we lo we lose 5T. That's how fast. And

[33:46] it was taking over 15 hours to get that 5 ft back in. That's how much water we

[33:50] go through. According to AWWA, we should have one day supply left over.

[33:57] We won't make that. We got a lot of improvements to do. So, we need to be

[34:01] careful with these numbers. That's why I couldn't go really any higher. I can't

[34:06] any emergency, any fire event or whatever else. Now I I you know we're

[34:11] not going to make it with normal day-to-day operations if we

[34:15] need to. We're we're we're getting that close now.

[34:20] » Okay. Does that help? >> It does. I So what I'll do is I'll

[34:24] finesse this language. Um I'm going to circulate it back to the group.

[34:30] I'm sure they're going to have additional changes, but I I don't think

[34:33] that anything's going in front nothing should go in front of anyone until we

[34:36] have we've heard from um Soft Bank. >> Yeah.

[34:39] » Because I I think that's important for the BPA and council to be able to ask

[34:43] questions and the public um before we move forward with this agreement.

[34:48] » Okay. >> Can you guys be at the C next council

[34:50] meeting? >> Stanley,

[34:53] » uh what date is that? >> Uh be the first Monday in September.

[34:57] Correct. Yeah, but that's Labor Day.

[35:01] » Labor Day be the 8th. So it's the same day as ours

[35:05] actually, isn't it?

[35:10] » Yes. >> Yeah, it's the same day as ours then.

[35:14] » So they just moved it Tuesday. >> Wait a minute. No,

[35:17] » we we had talked about moving >> September. No, you're right.

[35:21] » Yeah, Tuesday is the first Tuesday.

[35:24] » Labor Day is the next week. >> Yeah.

[35:26] » Yeah. I don't have I'll be around.

[35:30] Okay. To a council meeting on the first.

[35:35] » No, council meetings on the 8th. Our meeting next meeting is on the first.

[35:41] » Yeah, either date. >> Okay.

[35:43] » Okay. Any more questions on that? Seeing none, South Springs Road Booster Station

[35:49] relocation. there. Do you have any updates on

[35:53] how that's going or

[35:59] » no? No real updates? No. >> Okay.

[36:05] » Item number 11. I I do know Chris was working on some stuff because I talked

[36:11] to him. I don't know if he talked to you, Darren.

[36:13] » I have not talked to him. I I still need to talk to to Cindy about that. We did

[36:18] find um three more grinders that when we did have a lot of water, we're we're

[36:24] getting some in two or three. So, I ordered more risers. Hopefully, that'll

[36:29] help. We're still waiting on that. That's that's where I am. Like I say, he

[36:34] said he was going to send you some stuff. I don't know if he did or not.

[36:38] » We did talk um before I was before I was up on vacation. Um, and I don't believe

[36:45] he forwarded what we were talking about at that time. Um, I went through my

[36:52] emails yesterday real quick, but I could have missed it. I don't I don't I don't

[36:57] believe >> he said he was going to send you an

[36:58] [clears throat] email and I didn't know if he got to it or not.

[37:00] » Yeah, we talked um before I went on vacation about the INI. Um,

[37:12] any questions?

[37:15] Any additional public comments?

[37:20] Okay, seeing none solicitors report. The only thing I have is TC's attorney

[37:25] reached out to me about this um you know their claim that they've been

[37:29] overcharged between the bulk rate and the contract rate after they declared

[37:33] full commercial operation. Uh which was like April 15th or April the middle of

[37:37] April. And so there's that 2 to 3 week period between April and May that

[37:42] they're claiming they were overcharged. They're claiming they were overcharged

[37:44] 242,000. Um,

[37:49] I just I I guess I just more more or less had questions as in terms of are we

[37:57] and I emailed Cindy about this too and I So Cindy, are we

[38:02] are they were they being build at the Warren contractual rate I guess during

[38:06] that last part of April? Do we know? And here here's the breakdown. It says here

[38:11] that they think that the service water agreement rate for us should be 440.

[38:15] Now, we have a 49% adder in our contract, right?

[38:20] » We had a 49% adder when we entered into the contract. Um, the contract states

[38:27] that if Warren increases their rate that our adder or I don't think they call it

[38:34] an adder in this contract will also be increased by the same number. Um, I

[38:39] spoke directly to uh Ted Harvey and I showed him how to calculate that rate.

[38:44] um he understood it and

[38:49] accepted that. Um as far as the credit, I I told you the contract states that

[38:56] they they qualify, in my opinion, they qualify for that rate once they reach

[39:04] full commercial operation, but they failed to create a contact contract or

[39:10] permit to complete the permit. they didn't come

[39:14] in. Then when they did come in, they didn't come in with the deposit. So when

[39:18] as soon as they started the permit process,

[39:25] we got a final uh a meter reading um which Warren didn't allow us access to

[39:30] the day. It took one day more and then but still before we received the deposit

[39:36] which should have been submitted with the permit application,

[39:39] we transferred that account before we had the deposit. Um I feel that we build

[39:44] it accordingly to the contract and they want to dispute it. It says in there

[39:49] that they have to comply with the rules and regulations

[39:53] and permit application with the deposit is in the rules and regulations.

[39:57] » Yeah. >> Yeah. Did Warren um that's I'm trying to

[40:02] Did Warren start charging us under the contract rate in

[40:05] » Warren >> cuz I know Warren I believe Warren's

[40:08] position [clears throat] is they recognize you know commercial completion

[40:12] of commercial or or beginning of commercial operations uh on the April as

[40:17] of April 15th. So, did they charge us under the contract or they charge us?

[40:21] » If if Warren told you that, that is contrary to what Warren I I met with

[40:27] Franco and

[40:32] um the billing clerk and Darren, what's the other gentleman's name?

[40:36] » Dr. DJ Ross. No,

[40:39] » Tom Ross. The three of us met in his office and they said they cannot go back

[40:45] and find that reading after the fact. They

[40:48] failed to notify them as well. Um we the warrants rate for Lordstown Energy

[40:58] Center at the beginning I think it was two

[41:03] 51. There's a two cent or a few cent difference. Warren build us through that

[41:09] period at the higher rate, the other rate in the contract, not the PEC rate.

[41:15] » Okay. >> And I do I unless they go back and give

[41:18] me a credit, they build me at the other rate for the May bill as well, the May

[41:24] usage. >> Oh, really?

[41:27] I think it was 271 for others and 267 for

[41:31] » correct >> TEC. That sounds

[41:33] » but based on a thousand galler measurement. Yes.

[41:37] And so that few cent difference when we received the bill and what we paid was

[41:42] based on that other customer rate, not the TEC rate.

[41:49] » Okay. Did Warren ever start billing us at the TEC rate?

[41:52] » I I do believe so. >> Okay.

[41:54] » I could check that because maybe we would have got in June, [clears throat]

[41:58] so that bill would come in in July. But I do think

[42:03] » so. They never changed their billing to the TEC contract rate until May.

[42:09] » Till June. >> June.

[42:10] » Or June. Okay. All right. All right. >> Okay.

[42:15] » And when I met with them, I believe I could go back and look and see when I

[42:19] did meet with them, but I think I met with them in May or at the beginning of

[42:24] June, and the director very clearly stated that

[42:30] they didn't inform them either. And the rate don't change until

[42:36] they

[42:39] we determined at that time of the meeting that they were just starting to

[42:44] pull that 4 million gallons or to get up to that full commercial operation.

[42:50] » Okay. >> And that was another thing. Um

[42:56] » All right. Well, I just want to let you guys know they're, you know, they're

[42:58] saying that we should have been build at the the contract rate, not the bulk rate

[43:02] for those two weeks at the end of April, asking for a $242,000 credit. I'll I'll

[43:08] just tell them, you know, that the rules and regulations apply under our contract

[43:12] and the BPA, you know, isn't willing to reconsider this, I guess. Does that

[43:16] work? >> Yeah. Yeah. The ball's in their court

[43:20] cuz we followed our >> Yeah, we follow we follow what we have

[43:23] in our rules. All right.

[43:29] Anything else? >> That's all I have. Any questions for

[43:32] Matt? >> Uh, engineers report. I don't have

[43:35] anything ready to give you anything to add. Okay. Uh, [clears throat] utility

[43:40] committee report.

[43:46] » I only have a few things. Um, in regards I I mentioned it briefly upstairs is you

[43:52] have the before you the Verdantis um

[44:00] professional service quote to update the sore rate study. The sore rate study is

[44:07] up to date with the financial figures. What is missing or I what I would like

[44:12] to have um checked on that is if our funds that we're setting aside for the

[44:24] lift stations is appropriate for the replacement.

[44:30] When we first started this I said, "Oh, in 15 years they're going to start

[44:33] wiring down and and and Baron is seeing that." But where are we at? You know, I

[44:40] want them to like kind of like analyze those figures verse versus versus the

[44:45] potential cost. I don't think I did not read their um scope of work. Like I

[44:52] said, I was off last week, so I got it. Haven't read it thoroughly through

[44:56] there. But that is all I would request for the sore rate study and to

[45:02] incorporate, you know, th those figures in there. The water rate is a huge mess

[45:08] because of all the different contracts, all the different purchase price rates.

[45:12] And was there TEC? Was there not going to be TEC? Well, we do have TEC, but not

[45:18] on our water. So, so many things have changed.

[45:21] » So many things have changed. >> It's hard to go back and plug in the

[45:25] figure. And then the maintenance building, you know, are we budgeting for

[45:29] a maintenance building? Are we not budgeting for a maintenance building?

[45:31] And we still really don't have the answer. Are we paying for a helic

[45:34] waterline expansion around the General Motors complex? So, I do

[45:40] want it. I do think it's very important that we move forward with that. I just

[45:44] think it maybe we could ask for them to do that on an hourly um structure for

[45:50] what it actually takes to work. But, um those those two items, like I said,

[45:57] sword needs a little bit of attention. Water's going to need more, but I don't

[46:03] think we need lump sum work. >> You guys okay with having city email

[46:07] back and say, "We'd like this to be on an hourly basis, and please give us a

[46:12] dollar figure per hour." >> Yes.

[46:16] » Okay. >> Yeah, if you don't mind doing that,

[46:18] please. >> Yeah, not a problem. The next thing I

[46:20] have is um we have a trash contract with Republic Services and

[46:27] we are in year three or starting year four the [clears throat] contract and

[46:32] there was a the first year after we entered into the contract the wages

[46:37] should have been adjusted about 1%. And they missed it and didn't increase it.

[46:42] So they wrote that off. it's in the past and then last year was zero and now this

[46:49] year um because of the fuel prices that's our variable in our contract our

[46:56] trash rate is going up um the new basic service at the road will be $1970 a

[47:02] month um or 5911 a quarter if you rent the cart it'll be 2220 a month or 6161 a

[47:11] quarter they do have a at the door service for seniors or handicap or

[47:16] whatever people um that'll go to 2822 a month. But the bag service where the

[47:23] customers can come in and purchase the bags here and just put it out as needed

[47:28] will remain at $25 for 10 bags and that is effective July 1. So some

[47:36] people have already been build for the that period. Um but there's three

[47:40] different billing periods in our community. So, they'll be prrated or

[47:45] maybe back build from July one. Um, for that I met with curb before I went on

[47:51] vacation. >> What was what was the curb service?

[47:54] » The curb the the door service or the curb regular regular curb service

[48:00] without a container is $1970 a month.

[48:07] It's a total of 5911 a quarter. So, if you have a container,

[48:15] that's the blue >> the Yeah, the the cart, the 96gallon

[48:19] cart. >> Yeah.

[48:20] » Like with one cart, I previously was paying $63 a quarter and it's now

[48:27] 66.661. So, it went up $361 for 3 months, $120 a month.

[48:38] That's with the card. >> With the [clears throat] card. Yeah.

[48:43] » So, I just wanted to let you know sometimes we get questions. They'll

[48:46] primarily come through the office, but if if you have any questions, I do have

[48:51] um that posted upstairs and I will get it on um take it down to and through and

[48:59] have him put it on the website. >> When's our contract up?

[49:04] » 2028. Anything

[49:09] [clears throat]

[49:14] else? >> All these things going up because of

[49:17] gas. >> When it comes back down,

[49:21] » Mhm. >> is the rate going to come back down.

[49:23] » Yeah, it it gets it it would it [clears throat]

[49:27] index every year. So, if it drops down 1% or even falls lower, it would be

[49:32] [clears throat] adjusted by that percentage.

[49:35] Um, I don't think I have anything else. I did want to clarify when you approved

[49:41] the meeting minutes, um, Darren had asked for corrections. I forwarded the

[49:46] corrections to you, but only his corrections, correct me if I'm wrong,

[49:51] were made in in the the new set of minutes. So, you were approving the

[49:57] revised >> revised Yes. minutes.

[50:00] » Correct. Okay. Yes. Darren, you were happy with the

[50:05] the corrections. >> I don't remember seeing them.

[50:11] » Okay,

[50:15] » we'll get them to you. >> Yep.

[50:17] » Okay. >> Email. You should have received them in

[50:20] your email.

[50:23] » I have them. >> I can't answer that.

[50:28] » Just let us know. I just wanted to know if they were approving the original set

[50:31] or >> Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, we were

[50:32] approving. >> It's okay.

[50:35] » Y any questions for Cindy? >> Okay. Superintendent report

[50:43] the um call outs in the in the evenings. Got a

[50:49] lot of emergency markings or power outages or whatever else. A lot of times

[50:54] I I go see assess the situation or just take care of it. But I take my own

[51:00] vehicle and it's it's happening quite a bit. There's no lights. There's nothing

[51:04] on there. I'm wondering if I could take the pickup home with me so that when I

[51:09] do have those calls, at least I have lights and some tools with me and

[51:15] whatever I might need. >> I don't have a problem.

[51:18] » Yeah, I don't have a problem. >> I'm fine with that.

[51:20] » Yeah. Thank you. Um, we talked about

[51:26] cleaning lift station one and two. We had number three done already and that

[51:30] was with the warrant contract. Just an update on that. Uh, they're still not

[51:35] sure. They're going to another boss and then their law.

[51:40] So, just wanted to update you. We're still waiting on on an answer if they

[51:44] could help us out with that or not. uh a class for the for Ed and Mark

[51:51] Gorman Ruff. That's who has our lift stations. They offer every year a

[51:56] pumping class and electrical class. It's $120

[52:00] per person per class. I'd like to send both of them to both those classes

[52:06] totaling $480. >> I'll make a motion we approve the $480.

[52:12] Sir, all in >> favor? I post motion pass.

[52:17] » Darren, you said Ed and who? >> Edmark.

[52:24] » Uh, I I got I wasn't in this loop, but the shore boxes that were talked about

[52:30] prior a while ago. Okay.

[52:35] Uh, apparently Martin was supposed to get some estimates, get it to you. You

[52:41] were supposed to have an answer. I don't know. I was out of this loop.

[52:44] » Unless I I don't know if he ever gave me the estimate.

[52:49] » I'd have to go back. >> I don't know where it's at. I'm I'm

[52:51] being asked about it now and I I don't I'm not sure either. So that's why I'm

[52:54] asking. >> Can we approve the go and buy?

[52:56] » I thought we approved that. >> You did.

[52:58] » Okay. >> I'm almost positive he did.

[53:03] » Say that. I think we did. Yeah. >> Were they not purchased?

[53:06] » I believe not. I I'm just finding out about all this. Is it something maybe we

[53:10] approved and just it never got to was Martin buying them? Maybe

[53:14] » I thought that that was a plan, but I >> maybe Martin just didn't know.

[53:17] » I don't I don't know. When this whole thing was being discussed, I I was off

[53:20] and then that move got started and it was gone. So I

[53:24] » How did you say we did approve it? I remember approving it now.

[53:27] » So yeah. >> So So what's next? It's approved. Let

[53:31] » it was approved. >> I think we had I a special meeting.

[53:34] » Yeah. for that or or meeting and we just put that on there. Yeah,

[53:40] » absolutely. >> I will I will check that out.

[53:42] » Yeah, I don't like I don't think you were here for that.

[53:45] » Oh, >> yeah. I think it was just shooting me.

[53:48] » Okay.

[53:52] Um we're draining the uh Bailey tank right now. We started this afternoon.

[53:56] We're going to have a wash out on Thursday. Uh everything went smooth so

[54:02] far with with draining it. Um, Stan, especially you, if you notice anything

[54:06] different, you're getting that water, give me a call,

[54:09] » okay? >> Let me know. I think everything's going

[54:11] good. We'll have a wash out on Thursday. So, late Thursday, we'll start refilling

[54:15] it. Friday, we'll be refilling it. But, we're we're running on a pump right now.

[54:20] And I got to keep an eye on it. So, if you guys hear anything, let me know.

[54:26] Okay.

[54:29] Uh, classes for the guys. I do know that I've seen emails going out that they're

[54:36] posting classes, but they haven't posted them yet. I I know they have more than

[54:41] just you guys in a class in this area. I just have not seen the dates yet. And I

[54:46] told them, "Send me the dates so I can let you guys know if we have to adjust

[54:50] that." They said, "Once they post the dates, we can idea when that might be."

[54:54] » I'm hoping very soon, but they haven't given up on it.

[54:56] » I don't want to start >> Yeah. I don't want to start checking

[54:59] dates because they have so long to get it done and we've been waiting a lot

[55:02] more. >> Yeah, they bring

[55:05] » Yeah, the hold up was they were updating some course material.

[55:08] » So that that's what the hold up was cuz the EPA changed a couple of things. So

[55:11] that that's what the hold up was. >> Okay.

[55:16] Uh MBSD had a notice of violation from the EPA.

[55:21] They had a chemical feeder chlorine I guess that was that malfunctioned. So

[55:27] for 15 minutes before they can get it fixed again, it didn't feed correctly.

[55:31] So the detention time with their their water disinfection,

[55:36] it it didn't meet DPA's standards on there. So they

[55:42] had to notify us as we're their customer. I had to notify everybody.

[55:48] Yesterday we sent out over 1,600 letters. We hand delivered to the

[55:53] businesses, places that wouldn't get it. We got it posted here. here. It's on the

[55:57] website. Uh, nothing wrong with the water.

[56:01] Everything's fine. Um, I don't have a date when this will

[56:06] go away. We got to have a post, I know, for 7 days. I don't I think they took

[56:10] care of everything and it'll probably go right away. But the letters are going to

[56:14] start hitting the residents. Have them call me.

[56:18] It's not a problem. It's not a big deal. Water's all good. But want to make you

[56:22] guys aware cuz you may start getting phone calls, too. So, what was it? A

[56:25] chlorination issue that exactly quit chlorinating or it it quit. The injector

[56:30] quit on it, right? So, they found out they got it fixed. It was down for 15

[56:35] minutes, but >> that's a lot of water.

[56:38] » Doesn't matter if you miss contact. >> Exactly. That's So, that's what

[56:44] happened. But everything's fine and they they fixed it, corrected it. I'm just

[56:48] letting you know that a lot of letters all the letters went out to all the

[56:50] residents. So, >> be be ready for that. Well, you would

[56:54] notice something in your testing anyhow when you

[56:57] » Yes. Yeah. Well, the EPA would have too cuz they got notified right away. Um,

[57:02] and they would have done testing correct there. They wouldn't even gave

[57:07] us any water if there was a problem. >> Yeah.

[57:09] » Yeah. So, it would have been stopped actually there, but you're correct. I I

[57:13] probably would have noticed a little bit difference. We're we're good. According

[57:16] to EPA, MVSD, and L testings that I'm doing, there hasn't been an issue. So,

[57:26] Hopefully next meeting can we do interviews? Can we just put it on the

[57:30] agenda in case I get make that happen? I'm good with it for our opening.

[57:34] » That's fine. Good. >> That's all I had.

[57:37] » Okay. Any questions for Darren? >> Okay.

[57:42] Seeing none, any member comments? Yeah. Uh where are we with the relocation of

[57:48] the master meter for uh

[57:57] are they moving forward with anything or >> master meter for the

[58:00] » not master meter >> the booster station?

[58:03] » Yeah. >> Um

[58:05] you said you didn't really have any updates.

[58:09] » The only thing I thought was hanging Did he ever get that? Wasn't there still a

[58:14] car or something in there? >> It looks like there's actually an

[58:18] esavator over there now. >> Oh yeah. So,

[58:20] » as I said, the picture I don't know the the parcel goes back

[58:26] and then it cuts in and like has so where it cuts in maybe it's on that cut

[58:33] in to the property, you know, that belongs to the property north. But

[58:38] until, as I said, until they set those pins in and check that, I don't want it

[58:43] I didn't want it to be an obstacle when they went to get over there and start

[58:48] working because we got to keep things moving.

[58:51] » Well, really, my question was was are we good with the $200,000?

[58:59] » The $200,000 we already received. I will have to do a report once we we

[59:06] [clears throat] have expenses against the booster pump station already. The

[59:10] question there is what expenses qualify

[59:15] to use that 200,000. I reached out to Turbo County, but I have not got a

[59:20] response back. So my intention is is to reach out to the

[59:27] loan specialist at Berdantis she that I'm working with on the that project and

[59:33] the other project now and maybe she would be able to answer that cuz I have

[59:38] the grant, you know, the paperwork. I just don't know what the sections blah

[59:43] blah blah. I don't know what those mean. Um and for me to research it would take

[59:46] a long time where she just might know, >> yeah,

[59:49] » here's my list of what I've spent. Here's what they say. What can what

[59:54] would apply to that? >> And I do know last thing I heard on the

[1:00:00] project is that they were going to be coordinating a pre-construction meeting

[1:00:04] and then the contractor anticipated starting August 24th.

[1:00:10] » It it gave us uh I don't I don't remember the date on there. It wasn't

[1:00:14] too far off. It was a um we hope to have this timeline right here. We did have a

[1:00:19] meeting with him. There's nothing physically that I know that you can see

[1:00:24] has been done. I've talked to him. The Bernanz representative, he's been in

[1:00:28] here. I've I've met with uh the generator guy down there. So, things are

[1:00:33] going on behind the scene, if you will. You're not going to see anything yet. I

[1:00:37] don't know about I haven't heard when the meeting is, but they do attend.

[1:00:41] » Chris said that they're going to have surveyors come in and put put uh markers

[1:00:48] I I I hope they still do that. I I think there that

[1:00:51] » Yeah, that's what he said he was going to do last week.

[1:00:53] » Yeah, I can ask if he's >> I I haven't seen Mike if I haven't been

[1:00:57] on the property. I I I don't know if that that may have happened. I I'm not

[1:01:00] sure. >> I just wonder if you pass it. It looks

[1:01:03] like they haven't done anything. Like he said, there's

[1:01:08] there's a earth mover and a semi way back. I think it would be off our

[1:01:14] property. Either way, it wouldn't interfer what they're going to do. But

[1:01:18] still needs to go. >> Yeah.

[1:01:23] » It shouldn't take long for any funds to go out cuz once the contract's awarded

[1:01:27] to whoever's going to do the construction, there's a big down payment

[1:01:30] is going to go out with it. So, the money shouldn't be a problem spending

[1:01:34] that money. >> I'm with And I mean, are we checking to

[1:01:38] see if the funds can be used to reimburse the village for buying the

[1:01:41] real estate as well? >> That's one of our expenses. Okay.

[1:01:45] » Um, we just don't know if that expense qualifies for ARPA,

[1:01:49] » the use of ARPA money. >> Um, the projects over $600,000. ARPA was

[1:01:55] 200,000. So, but we've also spent >> really close to $200,000 already.

[1:02:03] » It's just if it qualifies for I can't put it on there and then, well, you

[1:02:07] know, that didn't qualify. >> Yeah. Wasn't the engineering part of

[1:02:11] that, too? we were able to use that [clears throat] 200,000 for the

[1:02:15] engineering. >> The catch there with the engineering is

[1:02:20] they had designed it prior to the award of receiving that money. Sometimes some

[1:02:30] things qualify for that, some things do not. So when we got to ARC money which

[1:02:36] was a time a while back I I think we needed to have

[1:02:40] » but it was already designed. Yeah. Yeah. They had done all that work before.

[1:02:43] » That's one of those questions. Can I or can't I? We spent money and by September

[1:02:50] you know 30th in two more months we'll have spent more money. Um

[1:02:55] but that I just need to push all that we can against the ARPA paperwork. Um, and

[1:03:05] like I said, we're I think the last time I did it was like $180 some thousand

[1:03:10] that we already spent on that project. Um,

[1:03:12] » Wow.

[1:03:15] » Yeah. I know Chris said that we would could use the engineering against that.

[1:03:22] » Mhm. >> Yeah. Any cost going forward, I think,

[1:03:25] is what he meant. >> Yeah. I don't know about the design.

[1:03:28] » I don't know about the design. >> Timing's everything with that. Yes.

[1:03:31] » Yeah. Okay.

[1:03:34] » The I believe Phyllis Dunlap um is the woman I speak with at Verdantis and I

[1:03:42] think she would be able to assist >> assist you. [clears throat]

[1:03:47] Any more member comments? Seeing none, no quarterly approval of

[1:03:52] building adjustments. Motion to adjurnn. >> So move.

[1:03:56] » Second. >> All in favor?

[1:03:58] » I opposed. Motion passes. Have a good night everyone. You too.

2026 BPA Regular Meeting August 18

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