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the Lower Island Township Board of
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Commissioners regular meeting of August
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24th, 2026. The time is 6:02 p.m. Um
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we'll begin by um announcing that proof
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of publication is available for the
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meeting and we'll begin with a moment of
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silence followed by the pledge of
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allegiance. Please join me in a moment
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of silence now.
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Please stand for the pledge.
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Okay. And I'd like to um welcome
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everyone again to the meeting this
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evening. I'm I'm presiding this evening
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um uh with Commissioner Mooer,
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Commissioner Brown, Vice President Ngi,
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and I understand that Commissioner
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Schwarz is on the phone um remotely. Is
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that right, Commissioner Schwarz? Are
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you able to hear me? Okay,
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» I am. Thank you, Madam President. Can
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you hear me? All right.
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» Yes, we can. Thank you very much. Um,
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our first action item is approval of the
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meeting minutes from our regular meeting
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of July 27th, 2026.
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» If no corrections, I'll make a motion to
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approve the regular meeting minutes of
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July 27th, 2026.
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» Second.
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» Have a motion from Commissioner Brown
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and a second from Commissioner Mler. Any
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questions or comments?
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» Okay. Hearing none, I'll call for the
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vote. All those in favor, please say I.
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» I. Any opposed? Motion carries five to
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zero. Okay. The next section of our
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agenda is for presentations and um begin
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with some employee recognitions both for
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awards and for performance award.
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work.
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Okay. Our first letter is for Russell
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Osen. Russell Olsen. He's a maintenance
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specialist in our public works
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department. Um I understand he's not
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here this evening, but I'm going to read
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the letter from the board. Um this
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correspondence is written as a
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commendation letter for your years of
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service to the township. Over your
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tenure at Lower Allen, you have grown in
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responsibility and tasks at a m as a
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maintenance specialist to in the public
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works department. Your commitment and
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dedication have not gone unnoticed and
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is with great pleasure that we issue
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this commendation letter honoring your
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five years of service to Lower Allen
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Township. So, let's give Russell a round
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of applause even [applause]
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Okay. And next we have
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Next we have Amy Nye. She's a emergency
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medical technician in our EMS
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department. Um I understand she's not
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here either, right? Okay. So, this
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correspondence is written as a
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commendation letter for your years of
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service to Lower Allen Township. Over
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your tenure at Lower Allen, you have
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grown in responsibility and tasks as an
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emergency medical technician in the EMS
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department. For your commitment and
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dedication have not gone unnoticed. It
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is with great pleasure that we issue you
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this commendation letter honoring your
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20 years of service to Lower Township.
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So, thank you, Amy, and we'll make sure
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that you get your service.
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Okay. Next, we have Mr. Reynolds. If
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you'd like to come up here, please.
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Okay. Hi. How are you doing? All right.
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So, this is Char Charles Reynolds,
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better known as Charlie. Um, he's our
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fleet manager in our fleet department
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here at the township. And I'm going to
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read the letter from the board. This
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correspondence is written as a
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commendation letter for your years of
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service to Lower Allen Township. Over
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your tenure at Lower Allen, you have
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grown in responsibility and tasks such
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as as fleet manager in the fleet
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department. Your commitment and
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dedication have not gone unnoticed and
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it is with great pleasure that we issue
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you this commendation letter honoring
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your 20 years of service to lower
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township. So thank you very much for all
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that you do for the township.
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Please do.
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Okay. And next we have Stacy Morgan.
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Hi. Thanks for coming tonight. Um, this
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is Stacy Morgan, our planning technician
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in the CED department of Lower Allen
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Township. And this is correspondence is
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written as a commendation letter for
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your years of service to Lower Allen
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Township. Over your tenure at Lower
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Allen, you've grown in responsibility
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and tasks as a planning technician
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within the community and economic
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development department. Your commitment
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and dedication have not gone unnoticed.
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It is with great pleasure that we issue
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you this commendation letter honoring
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your 30 years of service to Lower Island
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Township, which is extremely impressive
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and we very much appreciate all that you
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do for the township. So, thank you so
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much.
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[applause]
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» Yeah, let me read the citation
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separately.
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We also have a a resolution. Um I'll
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read it and then we'll vote on it. Is
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that what we should Okay,
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» We'll just make sure you're you know
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approved. Um this is resolution 2026R-28
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which is a resolution of the board of
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commissioners of Low Township, Karland
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County, Pennsylvania recognizing Stacy
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L. Morgan. Whereas the board of
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commissioners of Lower Township desires
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to express its recognition and gratitude
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for 30 years of services provided by
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Stacy L. Morgan. And whereas Stacy first
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joined Lower Township in 1996 as a
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customer service representative in the
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community economic development
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department. And whereas Stacy then
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served as a codes technical assistant
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and whereas Stacy was appointed as
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planning technician. And whereas Stacy
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has served on several committees during
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her tenure and whereas Stacy has
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received many accolades from staff and
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citizens for a variety of reasons. I'm
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now hereby resolve that sincere
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gratitude and appreciation are hereby
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extended to Stacy El Morgan for her 30
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years of dedicated service to the
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citizens of Lower Township, Cumberland
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County, and that this recognition be
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spread upon the minutes and records of
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Lower Township for perpetuity. So, I'll
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call for the vote um for a motion to be
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made on the resolution for Stacy's
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recognition.
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» So, moved.
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» Okay. I have a motion from Vice
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President Negi and a second from
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Commissioner Brown. All those in favor,
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please say I.
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» I.
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» I.
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» Any opposed? Motion carries 5-0. And
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thank you again for all that you do for
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the township and congratulations. 30
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years is a very impressive tenure. So,
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thank you.
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» [applause]
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» Okay. And last but not least, Mr.
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Powell, Director Powell.
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Okay. This is Benjamin Powell, PE,
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director of our public works department
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here at Lower Island Township, and we
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have a letter for you on behalf of the
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board. This correspondence is written as
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a commendation letter for going above
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and beyond. It was brought to the board
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of commissioners attention that during
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an unexpected storm emergency over the
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July 4th holiday that developed with
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little to no advanced wing, leaving no
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practical opportunity for normal
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preparation, uh you responded quickly
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and took initiative to coordinate among
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the volunteer fire companies, our public
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safety agencies, municipal personnel,
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and other emergency partners. By
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maintaining clear communication,
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identifying immediate needs, directing
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resources where they were most critical,
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and remaining actively engaged
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throughout the response, you helped
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ensure a coordinated and effective
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effort under rapidly changing
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conditions. Your calm leadership,
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flexibility, and willingness to take on
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responsibilities beyond your usual
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duties supported public safety and
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demonstrated an exceptional commitment
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to the community and the administration
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of the township. So, thank you very much
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for your actions that day, that weekend.
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[applause]
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Okay. And again, congratulations to all
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of our employee recognitions. And uh we
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just want to also thank all the family
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and friends who came tonight to show
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their support for these employees who
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are um greatly valued here at the
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township. So congratulations again.
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Um next we'll move to audience
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participation. This is where any item on
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the agenda or any business pertinent to
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the township can be addressed. We ask
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that all attendees sign in and those
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speaking should state their name and
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address for the record. Um, is there
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anyone here for purposes of discussion
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um with respect to the township or an
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agenda item tonight?
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Okay. And which which item would that
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be?
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Okay.
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Okay. Anyone else here to speak on an
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agenda item or township?
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Okay. Seeing none, we will move on. And
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when we get to that item, we'll we'll
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make sure that any questions or comments
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you have are addressed. Um, next is the
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consent agenda. This is where any
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commissioner, staff member, or anyone in
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attendance who would like to have an
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item on the consent agenda removed for
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further discussion can request so now.
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Is there a request for the removal of
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any item on the consent agenda?
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No objections, Madame President. We'll
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make a motion to accept the consent
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agenda.
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» Second.
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» A motion from Vice President Ngi and a
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second from Commissioner Moler. Any
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questions or comments?
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» Okay. Hearing none, I'll call for the
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vote. All those in favor, please say I.
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» I.
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» Any opposed?
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» I.
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» Any opposed? Motion carries five to
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zero. And the consent agenda is
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approved. Um, our next item is to accept
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a motion to appoint Alex J. as the
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alternate member on the zoning hearing
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board for the remainder of the term
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ending December 31st, 2027.
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» Second.
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» I have a motion from Commissioner
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Mochler and a second from Commissioner
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Brown. Any questions or comments?
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» Okay. All those in favor, please say I.
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» I.
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» I.
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» Any opposed?
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Mot motion carries five to zero.
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And thank you to uh to this alternate
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member on the zoning hearing board.
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We're excited to have an alternate
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participation.
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Next, we will turn to human resources.
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And I believe Director Cone, you have
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two items for us tonight.
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» Yes, Madam President. Uh first item up
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is uh approving the completion of the
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pro or yeah discussion possible action
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approving completion of probate of the
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probationary period and granting regular
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full-time status to police corporal Tory
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Shily and that would be effective August
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25th 2026 if approved. He's met all of
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his requirements and has had excellent
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evaluation.
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» Wonderful.
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» Any questions on this potential motion?
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» No questions. I'll make a motion to
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approve the um completion of the
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probationary period and grant regular
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full-time status to police corporal Tory
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Shily effective August 25th, 2026.
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» Second.
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» We have a motion from Commissioner Brown
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and a second from Commissioner. Any
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questions or comments?
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Okay, I'll call for the vote. All those
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in favor, please say I.
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» I.
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» I.
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» Any opposed? Motion carries 5 to Z.
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All right. And the next item is
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discussion and possible action accepting
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the retirement of David L. Hall,
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Director of Public Safety, effective
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September 4th, 2026.
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» I make a motion to accept the retirement
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of David L. Hall, Director of Public
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Safety, effective September 4th, 2026.
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» Second.
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» I have a motion from Commissioner Brown
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and a second from Commissioner. Any
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questions or comments?
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I'd like to thank Dave for his lifelong
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commitment to public safety and public
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service and wish him happy.
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» Thank you. Any further questions or
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comments?
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» Okay, hearing none. I'll call for the
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vote.
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» Just real briefly,
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» I'm sorry. I just wanted to apologize to
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Director Hall for not being there in
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person tonight. Um if it wasn't for a
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family emergency, I I would be there to
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uh um to uh wish you the best. But u
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anyway, I just wanted to
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Thank you.
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» Thank you, Commissioner Schwarz. And I
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should note for the record, Commissioner
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Schwarz attendance virtually is
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acceptable.
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» Any further questions or comments?
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Okay, hearing none, I'll call for the
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vote. All those in favor, please say I.
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» I.
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» Okay. Any opposed? Motion carries five
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to zero. And again, on behalf of the
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board, we wish Mr. Hall a very wonderful
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retirement.
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» Okay. Thank you, director.
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» Thank you, Madam President.
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» There's no items for public safety, so
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we'll move on to community economic
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development director, please.
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» Thank you, Madam President. Uh the first
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item is just a update on zoning hearing
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board. Uh there was no meeting in
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August. Uh and we have not received any
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applications to the deadline for the
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September meeting. So there will not be
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a September zoning.
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Uh second item uh is discussion and
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possible action approving the uh
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following waiverss associated with storm
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water management system for the proposed
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parking expansion at 30 385 Gettysburg
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road dairy farmers of America. Um and
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forgive me hindsight I probably should
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have provided a memo to the board. Um
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but just just to give a little context
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uh if the board may recall uh the
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Gettysburg portion of the old portion of
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Gettysburg road along dairy farmers was
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vacated. Um the right of way uh and
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there was a subdivision plan lot
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consolidation that the board approved
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and was supported as well. Uh what what
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that did was was help the existing dairy
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farmers of America parcel uh just just
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get in line with with a lot of
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nonconformities which included their lot
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coverage. Uh what they have done and
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they're they proposed a parking
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expansion which still complies with the
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existing law coverage but it will really
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help them out. Uh if the board recalls
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when when PepsiCo did when dairy farmers
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did the um a couple of presentation that
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they've done they just they just have a
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a large amount of a large volume of the
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Frappuccino that comes in and out of
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there and they have a they have a really
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tough time with their parking their
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trucks.
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this parking expansion, this uh they've
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proposed the storm water management uh
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system. Uh we've it's under review at
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this point, but with it uh they've got
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zero infiltration out there. Uh and
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because of that uh they are proposing
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the the managed release concept and with
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that of course the the volume from our
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storm water storm management ordinance.
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Also, um the minimum 12 in diameter pipe
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uh is is not necessary for the discharge
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pipe as we're reviewing this. So,
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they're also requesting um a a waiver of
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that and then the alternate proposed a
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discharge.
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So, our township engineer and staff
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would recommend.
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» Okay. Thank you, director. Any
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questions?
[20:37]
engineer or director on these two items.
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Um if no questions, I will go ahead and
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make a motion to um
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approve the proposed parking expansion
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at 3805 Gettysburg Road to Dairy Farmers
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of America with the [clears throat]
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following waiverss. Section 184
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to require the removal of storm water
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volume and in the alternate permit
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Pennsylvania Department of Environmental
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Protection's managed release concept
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methodology.
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» Second.
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» We have a motion from Commissioner Brown
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and a second from Vice President Navy.
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Any questions or comments?
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» Okay, hearing none, I'll call for the
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vote. All those in favor, please say I.
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» I.
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» I.
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» Any opposed? Motion carries. 5 to Z.
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Also, uh, section 184-19.G18
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to require a minimum 12in pipe diameter
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and privately owned storm water
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facilities and then the alternate allow
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a 6 in discharge.
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» Second.
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» I have a motion from Commissioner Brown
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and a second from Commissioner.
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Any questions or comments?
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» Okay. All those in favor, please say I.
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» I.
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» I.
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» Any opposed? Motion carries.
[22:05]
Okay, moving on to the next item,
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please.
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» Thank you, Madam President. Uh, the next
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item is discussion of SLD
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number 2026-04.
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This is the Liberty Forge phase one
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final subdivision and land development
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plan. Um, just I I'll just give a a
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brief um just a just a brief summary of
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of the plan itself. Um, if the board
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recalls, uh,
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preliminary plan was was approved on
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January 26th of 2026. Uh that proposes
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193 dwelling units
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uh age restricted 55 plus. Uh the the
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phase one plan before you is the final
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plan uh and it proposes the subdivision
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of the existing creekide mini golf
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course um and driving range. Um and lot
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two proposes the construction of 53 of
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the dwelling units, a community building
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and associated storm water open space,
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water line extension along Lisburn Road,
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and the roadway improvements.
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Uh tonight, uh RGS and the rest of the
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development team are here to present
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Good evening. Jake Kger from RGS
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Associates uh here on behalf of the
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applicant. Um EG Stoulles Foods. Um
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we're in front of you back in January as
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Isaac uh mentioned. Um so I'll be I'll
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be brief and just our review and um then
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we can I'll take any questions you might
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have. Um as mentioned the project's
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located at the old Liberty Forge at the
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location at the Liberty Forge golf
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course and uh dividing into two lots uh
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on the north side the driving range and
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restaurant and mini golf will remain um
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with the development um happening on the
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other the uh south side of Lisburn Road.
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Um the uh the district the zoning
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district is R2 with um and proposing an
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open space overlay. Um and as mentioned
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um phase one will include 53 uh units
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for um for phase one. Um a left turn
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lane along with pedestrian crossing
[24:27]
signal is proposed at the site entrance
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um off of Lisburn Road. Uh and this HOP
[24:32]
is currently in process at at PennDOT.
[24:35]
Um emergency access will also be
[24:37]
provided um through the existing drive
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paving um and with a temporary drive
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connection um
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temporary drive connection kind of off
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this edge here that will kind of connect
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to some of the existing paving for phase
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one.
[24:52]
Um all waiverss proposed with this
[24:54]
project are um for phase one are in line
[24:56]
with the preliminary plans. Um and these
[24:58]
were uh all recommended with the
[25:00]
exception of the sidewalk modification
[25:02]
along Lisburn. Um where in addition to a
[25:05]
10-ft trail of sidewalk on the on the
[25:08]
north side um the board moved to defer
[25:10]
sidewalk on the opposite side of Lisburn
[25:12]
Road. Um I'm happy to review any other
[25:15]
waivers that you have uh questions you
[25:16]
have in regard to any waivers if
[25:18]
desired. Um and then um the preliminary
[25:21]
plan conditions have all been um all
[25:24]
been addressed related to plan work um
[25:26]
or will be addressed prior to recording.
[25:28]
Uh remaining comments are uh
[25:30]
administrative um in nature. Um and in
[25:34]
addition, we've received a couple
[25:35]
conditions from the planning commission
[25:36]
and those have all been addressed as
[25:38]
well um with the recommendation. So, I'm
[25:40]
happy to answer any other questions you
[25:42]
might have um or discussion um and we
[25:45]
request your approval of the waiverss
[25:47]
deferral and the plan tonight. Thank
[25:49]
you.
[25:50]
» Thank you.
[25:51]
» Um I'll just start out. So, can you just
[25:53]
specify what the condition was from the
[25:55]
planning commission? Was that with
[25:56]
respect to the lighting for the
[25:57]
mailboxes?
[25:58]
» Yes.
[25:59]
» Was there anything else added?
[26:01]
» The other conditions were for the tree
[26:04]
cleanup along Lisburn um and um and that
[26:07]
was already kind of addressed on the
[26:08]
plans previously. So, the only new
[26:11]
additional one was the lighting at the
[26:12]
mailbox.
[26:13]
» Okay. Thank you.
[26:15]
» Okay. I'll open it up to the board for
[26:18]
questions.
[26:24]
» I guess I'll start. Madam President, so
[26:26]
in the the memo information
[26:28]
» We got I guess we'll go to Director
[26:30]
Sweeney. Um,
[26:33]
you know, sometimes a lot of our
[26:35]
waiverss are to actually
[26:38]
permit the applicant not to do things
[26:40]
that they should be, you know, or due to
[26:42]
certain specific reasons. But in this
[26:44]
case, it actually seems like several of
[26:46]
these are
[26:49]
they're doing an alternate thing that's
[26:50]
more preferential that actually would be
[26:53]
better in the long term. Is that my
[26:55]
understanding for several of these?
[26:58]
I was gonna say given the site
[27:00]
conditions
[27:02]
and working through plan commission
[27:05]
in a lot of cases all
[27:08]
» Okay so in this case it's less of kind
[27:11]
of exempting them from following certain
[27:13]
rules and more so getting something
[27:15]
better for what will be long term for
[27:18]
the that community and the development
[27:20]
» That is correct I mean the plane
[27:22]
commission had strong feelings about the
[27:25]
connectivity and walking
[27:36]
Yeah, because I think I saw in that
[27:38]
specific one, the sidewalk deferral
[27:40]
number three by moving it to the the
[27:43]
other side of Lisburn, it actually makes
[27:45]
it a much safer walkway, getting it
[27:47]
further off Lisburn Road than even
[27:50]
though ideally it would be the same side
[27:52]
as the development, but by crossing it
[27:55]
over you safer walkway. Is that my
[27:57]
understanding?
[27:58]
» That is correct.
[27:59]
» Okay.
[28:01]
» Thank you.
[28:02]
» I think just to add to that too, Vice
[28:04]
President Naggie, by moving it to the
[28:06]
other side, it allows more connect
[28:08]
easier connectivity to the park, which I
[28:12]
would imagine is the over overall goal
[28:14]
in this area.
[28:17]
And with respect to the crosswalk to get
[28:19]
to the other side of this proposed
[28:22]
trail, can you just explain sort of the
[28:24]
safety features that will be in effect
[28:26]
for the crosswalk?
[28:27]
» Sure. So, it'll be a striped crosswalk
[28:29]
and it'll have an overhead warning
[28:31]
system um that we permitted through the
[28:33]
PennDOT HOP. Um but it's it's similar to
[28:36]
one that's proposed somewhere else in
[28:38]
the township as far as the crossing and
[28:40]
it's a lighted system.
[28:50]
Okay. Any other questions from the board
[28:52]
with respect to these waiverss or
[28:55]
approvals in the alternate for some of
[28:57]
these items?
[29:00]
» From my end, these are pretty identical
[29:03]
to what we've we've seen just a short
[29:05]
time ago and approved. So I at this
[29:08]
point I don't have any questions.
[29:12]
Commissioner Schwarz, do you have any
[29:14]
questions or insight from your role with
[29:16]
the planning commission?
[29:20]
» Um, the uh the only thing that comes to
[29:22]
mind from the planning commission was
[29:25]
the uh that that hasn't already been
[29:27]
discussed. Um was the uh uh fire
[29:32]
services uh request to uh use some of
[29:35]
the existing buildings for training
[29:36]
purposes. Have y'all been able to uh uh
[29:40]
connect with somebody on our end about
[29:42]
that? Uh I wasn't sure if if that had
[29:46]
been accomplished.
[29:48]
» Yeah.
[29:49]
» Yeah. Yes. So that we reviewed that with
[29:51]
staff and we've made some um adjustments
[29:53]
as far as making sure we're compliant
[29:54]
with the turning um and parking and
[29:56]
things of that nature.
[30:02]
» Oh, I meant more specifically about uh
[30:04]
training.
[30:05]
» Oh, understood. with the existing
[30:06]
buildings. I I wasn't sure if that um if
[30:09]
further discussion had been made about
[30:11]
about that.
[30:14]
» Oh, I'm sorry. Could you state your
[30:17]
» Sure.
[30:17]
» Before you speak. Thank you.
[30:19]
» Ryan Ball with the applicant. So, that's
[30:22]
still an open item. We're willing to
[30:24]
work with emergency services for
[30:26]
training purposes to the extent
[30:28]
possible. The closing timeline on the
[30:30]
project is still a moving target at this
[30:32]
point. So, it all needs to be
[30:34]
coordinated closely with that, but we'll
[30:36]
absolutely follow.
[30:41]
» Um, Commissioner Schwarz, were you able
[30:43]
to hear that conversation?
[30:47]
» I I I heard from the applicant and then
[30:49]
I heard somebody indicating that they
[30:51]
received the reach out. I think it might
[30:53]
have been Captain Deon.
[30:54]
» That was Yes, that was Captain Deep.
[30:56]
Yep. Just want to make sure you heard
[30:58]
that.
[31:00]
» Okay, perfect. Thank you. That was all
[31:02]
that that was the only outstanding issue
[31:04]
that that uh came to mind from from the
[31:07]
planning commission meeting. So, thank
[31:10]
you very much.
[31:14]
» Any other questions from the board? I'll
[31:16]
open it up to the attendees. And I know
[31:19]
you have mentioned that you'd like to
[31:21]
potentially speak. Is there anything
[31:22]
you'd like to address? Okay. Please come
[31:25]
to the podium.
[31:31]
Jamie Gun 3800 road mechanics.
[31:35]
It's unclear to me on um item
[31:40]
1 A under C whether
[31:44]
the BM on Lisburn Road
[31:48]
is going to be increased in a way that
[31:52]
makes it at least for a small section of
[31:55]
Lisburn Road pass by Vic.
[32:01]
You know, I understand that there's
[32:03]
going to be a widening of the road so
[32:06]
that there are two traffic lanes moving
[32:09]
in opposite directions and a turn lane,
[32:12]
but is there going to be additional
[32:14]
widening of the road that would allow,
[32:18]
you know, a two foot or
[32:22]
some some BM beyond the travel or turn
[32:26]
lanes that make it safe for bicycles or
[32:31]
students
[32:34]
» Aside from the trail that would that's
[32:36]
being
[32:37]
» Well yeah I mean bicycles go both ways
[32:40]
so I don't know if your intention is for
[32:43]
people that are bicycling along Lisburn
[32:45]
road to use that trail I thought that
[32:49]
was to be a pedestrian
[32:52]
» Director who's best to answer that
[32:55]
question for our
[32:57]
I can certainly try. I I I'm not I I
[33:00]
mean there is no the only proposed
[33:03]
widening is is strictly to add the u the
[33:07]
the lefth hand turn lane. Um I I believe
[33:11]
uh that that PDO was not interested in
[33:14]
in widening
[33:16]
uh the the road along the frontage uh
[33:20]
just because of the the oddity and the
[33:22]
tapering of the widening. the tapering
[33:26]
of the the lanes and uh the possible
[33:29]
disorientation that it could cause for
[33:31]
for drivers with that actual. So I there
[33:35]
is no widening proposed except for right
[33:37]
at the entrance to allow for the left
[33:40]
hand turn.
[33:46]
So it was mostly the the state's
[33:49]
determination then on that widening
[33:51]
abilities and safety of the bicycles.
[33:56]
» And with regard to bicycles, I I'm not
[33:59]
sure that I can answer that. I mean, I
[34:00]
don't I don't know how we feel about
[34:02]
having bic%
[34:07]
that
[34:09]
either.
[34:10]
» I'm not sure how we would prevent that.
[34:13]
How would we prevent bicyclist using the
[34:15]
trail.
[34:16]
» I don't think that's
[34:17]
» Just as they would use.
[34:18]
» I would say that's a good idea.
[34:20]
» We have bicyclists using our walking
[34:22]
trail right now behind the Bethany
[34:23]
Village cottages walkers and not motori
[34:27]
not not ebikes but bicyclists do use
[34:29]
that trail.
[34:32]
I think that would be an option for the
[34:34]
residents.
[34:36]
» It just seems a shame to miss an
[34:38]
opportunity to make road safer for
[34:47]
» Yeah. I think the other problem is too,
[34:49]
you know, I live out past this. I drive
[34:52]
past it several times every day. I I
[34:56]
know there's a lot of bicycles on
[34:58]
Lisburn Road, but I all the time Why I
[35:02]
can think of
[35:04]
less safe road than a 40 mile per hour
[35:07]
road with all the ups and downs and the
[35:09]
sharp turns. This particular section in
[35:11]
my mind is one of the safer ones because
[35:13]
you do have a better line of sight. You
[35:14]
can see the bicycles. When you keep
[35:16]
going up towards the township, you get
[35:18]
into by the Canyon Creek development. I
[35:21]
mean, there's nothing we can do about
[35:23]
that. I mean this this small section
[35:25]
here
[35:28]
you know it's it's kind of a pendot
[35:29]
thing be tough for us to overroll that
[35:32]
anyway but I mean Lisburn road is just I
[35:36]
I just think it's such a unsafe road to
[35:39]
be traveling on a bicycle because of the
[35:41]
speed and because of the the lack of
[35:44]
line of sight you're coming over some of
[35:45]
these hills when the bicycles you know
[35:47]
you come over kind of come over down and
[35:50]
come back up another one the bicycles
[35:52]
are traveling extremely And you can't
[35:54]
really see them in a lot of points until
[35:55]
you're right on top of them.
[35:57]
» I agree. I would not ble on that road
[36:00]
and I travel that road frequently as
[36:02]
well. And if there's something that can
[36:04]
make it safer for the bicyclist and then
[36:07]
by default safer for me as a motorist, I
[36:11]
would be happy to see that type of
[36:13]
improvement.
[36:15]
» Yeah. I I don't think this stretch is
[36:17]
probably our our concerns for bicycles
[36:20]
on that road though. I mean, this is of
[36:25]
I think.
[36:26]
» Thank you for your comments. We
[36:28]
appreciate it.
[36:31]
» Okay, I'll turn back to the board to see
[36:32]
if there's any other questions before we
[36:35]
consider the waivers that are before us.
[36:42]
» No other comments or questions. Madam
[36:43]
President, I'll make a motion to approve
[36:46]
the waiver section 192-57.
[36:50]
C.1
[36:52]
provide an increase in the pavement
[36:53]
width of Lisburn Road along the frontage
[36:56]
of the lot. But in the alternative, they
[36:58]
will at the entrance provide a left turn
[37:01]
lane on Lisburn Road with additional
[37:03]
pavement widening.
[37:06]
» We have a motion from Vice President Ngi
[37:08]
and a second from Commissioner Mler. Any
[37:10]
questions or comments?
[37:12]
» Okay. All those in favor, please say I.
[37:15]
» I.
[37:15]
» I.
[37:16]
» I.
[37:17]
» Any opposed? Motion carries. Five to
[37:20]
zero.
[37:21]
Next, Madam President, I'll make a
[37:22]
motion to accept the waiver for section
[37:25]
192-57.C.8
[37:28]
to provide curbing along Lisburn Road
[37:31]
and Old Forge Road and 8 in vertical
[37:34]
curbs along the internal development
[37:37]
streets. And in the alternate, they will
[37:39]
install internal slant curbing for all
[37:41]
internal development streets.
[37:44]
» Okay, I have a motion from Vice
[37:46]
President Ngi and a second from
[37:47]
Commissioner. Any questions or comments?
[37:50]
Those in favor, please say I.
[37:53]
» I.
[37:54]
» Any.
[37:55]
» Any opposed? Motion carries 5 to zero.
[37:59]
» Next, Madam President, we'll make a
[38:00]
motion for the waiver section 192-57.
[38:05]
C9 to provide sidewalks along both sides
[38:08]
of internal development streets and
[38:11]
frontages along Lisburn Road and Old for
[38:14]
Road, Old Forge Road, excuse me. And in
[38:17]
the alternate, they will replace with a
[38:19]
five foot wide sidewalks on one side of
[38:21]
all internal development streets and a
[38:24]
six foot wide trail and open space areas
[38:27]
and a 10- foot wide trail along the
[38:30]
north side of Lisburn Road and a
[38:32]
deferral providing sidewalks along
[38:35]
Lisburn Road and Old Forge Road. And I
[38:40]
um before I get a second, I just want to
[38:42]
clarify the other part of that in the
[38:45]
memo was would include a connection to
[38:49]
township community. Is that correct?
[39:00]
» Would it make sense to add that to the
[39:02]
motion?
[39:04]
» I think because it's going to be
[39:05]
depicted on the plan
[39:10]
as it stands. Okay.
[39:14]
for a second.
[39:16]
» Second.
[39:17]
» Have a motion from Vice President and a
[39:19]
second from Commissioner Brown. Any
[39:21]
further questions or comments?
[39:24]
» All those in favor, please say I.
[39:27]
» I.
[39:28]
» Any opposed?
[39:33]
» Any opposed? Motion carries five to
[39:36]
zero.
[39:37]
» Okay. Our next paper
[39:39]
» Next madam president section 192-57
[39:43]
C9C
[39:45]
to provide level sidewalk areas every
[39:48]
100 ft and in the alternate it will be
[39:50]
replaced with sidewalks to match road
[39:53]
grade.
[39:55]
» I have a motion from vice president and
[39:57]
a second from commissioner. Any
[39:59]
questions or comments?
[40:02]
» All those in favor please say I.
[40:04]
» I.
[40:06]
Any opposed? Motion carries. 5 to zero.
[40:10]
» Next, Madam President, section 192-63.
[40:14]
C.1A
[40:16]
to provide sidewalks no closer than 5T
[40:18]
from the curb line and in the alternate
[40:21]
will replace the sidewalks at 2 feet
[40:23]
from curb line.
[40:26]
» We have a motion from Vice President and
[40:28]
a second from Commissioner. Any
[40:30]
questions or comments?
[40:33]
All those in favor, please say I.
[40:35]
» I. Any opposed?
[40:38]
» Sorry, Commissioner Schwarz. [laughter]
[40:41]
Any opposed? Motion carries. Five to
[40:44]
» Are you
[40:45]
» Yeah. Am I coming through? Like are are
[40:47]
you guys able to hear me?
[40:48]
» Oh, absolutely. I just move on too
[40:51]
quickly and it's my apology.
[40:54]
» No, no worries. No worries. Okay. So,
[40:58]
» Next, Madam President, we'll make a
[41:00]
motion to accept the waiver for section
[41:02]
184-14
[41:04]
to require the removal of storm water
[41:06]
volume and in the alternate permit them
[41:09]
via the Pennsylvania Department of
[41:10]
Environmental Protections managed
[41:12]
release concept methodology.
[41:15]
» Second.
[41:15]
» I have a motion from Vice President Ngi
[41:17]
and a second from Commissioner Mler. Any
[41:20]
questions or comments on this one?
[41:22]
Okay. All those in favor, please say I.
[41:25]
» I. I.
[41:27]
» I.
[41:28]
» Any opposed? Motion carries five to
[41:30]
zero.
[41:32]
» Oh boy. Next one. Section 192-63.A.2A1,
[41:40]
section 184-19.G.16,
[41:44]
and section 184-19.H7.7
[41:49]
to provide type C inlet tops with 10in
[41:52]
reveal and in the alternate permit slant
[41:55]
top inlets to match the proposed
[41:57]
curving.
[41:59]
I have a motion from Vice President and
[42:01]
a second from Commissioner. Any
[42:03]
questions or comments
[42:06]
hearing? None. I'll call for the vote.
[42:08]
All those in favor, please say I.
[42:10]
» I.
[42:12]
» I.
[42:13]
» Any opposed? Motion carries 5 to Z. And
[42:15]
looks like our last one,
[42:17]
» Section 192-57.
[42:20]
C12B
[42:22]
and section 184-19.G.21.
[42:27]
to provide pavement based drains in all
[42:30]
proposed internal development streets
[42:32]
and in the alternate permit the
[42:34]
installation of pavement base drains at
[42:36]
all low points of the streets.
[42:39]
» Okay, I have a motion from Vice
[42:40]
President Ngi and a second from
[42:42]
Commissioner Butchler. Any questions or
[42:44]
comments on this last
[42:48]
call for the vote? All those in favor,
[42:49]
please say I.
[42:51]
» I.
[42:53]
» Any opposed? Last one carries 5 to
[42:59]
looking for the overall approval of the
[43:03]
phase one final subdivision.
[43:06]
» Madam President, if no other questions
[43:08]
or comments, we'll make a motion to
[43:10]
approve
[43:11]
2026-04
[43:13]
Liberty Forge phase 1 final subdivision
[43:16]
and land development plan with the
[43:18]
following conditions.
[43:20]
Satisfy all remaining comments listed on
[43:22]
RTU's letter dated August 14th, 2026.
[43:26]
Satisfy all remaining comments listed on
[43:28]
Cumberland County Planning Department's
[43:31]
letter dated July 7th, 2026.
[43:34]
And the planning commission's
[43:36]
recommendation to provide adequate
[43:38]
lighting for the residents at the
[43:40]
cluster mailbox locations.
[43:44]
» I have a motion from Vice President Ngi
[43:46]
and a second from Commissioner. Any
[43:48]
questions or comments?
[43:51]
Okay, hearing none, I'll call for the
[43:52]
vote. All those in favor, please say I.
[43:55]
» I.
[43:55]
» I.
[43:56]
» I.
[43:57]
» Any opposed?
[43:59]
» Motion carries 5 to zero. And thanks to
[44:02]
the applicant for their presentation
[44:04]
today and thank you for the township
[44:06]
residents input over the course of this.
[44:09]
And also thank you to our township
[44:11]
engineer and staff for their help in our
[44:14]
review of this plan. So, thank you very
[44:17]
much. And I think that's all you had for
[44:18]
us tonight, director.
[44:20]
» Okay. All right. We'll move on to public
[44:23]
works. Thank you.
[44:26]
» Thank you, Madam President. Two items on
[44:28]
the agenda tonight. Public works. First
[44:30]
is uh for discussion possible action.
[44:33]
This is for authorizing staff to sign an
[44:35]
agreement with Mr. Rehab LLC, a co-stars
[44:38]
vendor for the pipelining work in the
[44:41]
amount of $146,657.78.
[44:46]
I gave the I provided the board a memo
[44:49]
outlining this work. Um I would mention
[44:51]
in addition to that that this is budget
[44:54]
item for this year. We have set aside
[44:56]
$175,000. The work came in a little bit
[44:59]
less than what we're expecting. So
[45:03]
this would fall under that line.
[45:07]
» Any further questions for director on
[45:09]
this one?
[45:10]
» Um no other questions. I'd like to make
[45:13]
a motion to authorize staff to sign an
[45:15]
agreement with Mr. Rehab LLC, a co-stars
[45:17]
vendor for the pipelining work in the
[45:20]
amount of $146,6578
[45:26]
uh contingent upon the storm water
[45:28]
authority approval.
[45:32]
» I have a motion from Commissioner Brown
[45:34]
and a second from Commissioner.
[45:38]
» Any further questions or comments?
[45:41]
Okay. All those in favor, please say I.
[45:44]
» I.
[45:47]
The hem
[45:50]
any opposed? Motion carries. Five to
[45:53]
zero.
[45:55]
» Thank you.
[45:56]
» He's really going through the right.
[45:58]
» A poor little thing.
[46:03]
» And the second item is for discussion,
[46:05]
possible action. This is for approving a
[46:08]
change order from EK Services. They're
[46:10]
our contractor for the infrastructure
[46:12]
project this year. Um this would be are
[46:15]
changing the unit price for milling from
[46:17]
$2.68 per square yard to $310 per square
[46:21]
yard. And with the quantity that we have
[46:24]
estimated, this would change the total
[46:26]
contract price around 20 to $25,000. I
[46:30]
outlined the reasons why.
[46:34]
» Any questions for director on this
[46:35]
change?
[46:37]
» Just want to say thank you for the memo
[46:39]
and the detailed information.
[46:42]
From what I understand, it's like 1.2 2
[46:44]
million project.
[46:47]
» Yeah, that's the contract amount. The
[46:49]
township will be paying for the asphalt
[46:51]
separately. So, it is quite a bit more
[46:53]
than that, but that's our contract
[46:56]
price.
[46:58]
» Just hearing all the benefits of what
[47:00]
everything would bring the 20 to $25,000
[47:03]
change order and the $1.2 million seems
[47:07]
very minuscule. seems like we'd be
[47:10]
foolish to not get through with it. I
[47:13]
think it'll be a better product in the
[47:15]
» End. I would agree. I think it would be
[47:17]
negligent not to make this change after
[47:19]
discovering this to to do it the right
[47:21]
way and ensure it it lasts when it is a
[47:24]
project of over a million dollars.
[47:26]
» We are trying to budget too for next
[47:28]
year just even get proper equipment so
[47:30]
this doesn't happen again. So hopefully
[47:34]
that investment will pay off so we're
[47:36]
not in this place in the future as well.
[47:40]
Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve the
[47:42]
change order from EK Services, Inc. Uh,
[47:45]
changing the unit price for milling from
[47:47]
$2.68 per square yard to $310 per square
[47:51]
yard.
[47:52]
» Second.
[47:53]
» I have a motion from Commissioner Brown
[47:54]
and a second from Vice President Nikki.
[47:56]
Any questions or comments?
[47:59]
» Okay, hearing none, I'll call for the
[48:00]
vote. All those in favor, please say I.
[48:03]
» I.
[48:04]
» I.
[48:05]
» Any opposed? Motion carries five to
[48:08]
zero.
[48:11]
Thank you, Director Powell.
[48:13]
And Director, looks like you have one
[48:15]
item for us tonight.
[48:17]
» Yes. Thank you, Madam President. Um, we
[48:19]
received the West Recreation
[48:21]
Commission's
[48:22]
budget and their proposed increase on
[48:25]
the per capita amount that we pay to be
[48:27]
participants. So, uh, director or I'm
[48:30]
sorry, manager Davis and I had a meeting
[48:32]
today with Todd Miller and just because
[48:34]
I had a couple questions on some of
[48:36]
their items. So, the increase from last
[48:39]
year's per capita is 15, which isn't a
[48:42]
lot. Basically, we're going to be paying
[48:44]
$2,56455
[48:47]
more than we paid um in 26 for 27. And
[48:52]
since there is going to be the
[48:53]
natiatorum
[48:55]
uh renovations this coming year, they
[48:58]
did decrease the revenues. Um it quite
[49:02]
in line with how they decrease the
[49:04]
expenses. The only expense that I had a
[49:06]
question on was the actual aquatic fee
[49:08]
that they have listed there because that
[49:09]
didn't come down much. But he explained
[49:11]
that is a 7%
[49:13]
charge on the revenue they make and it's
[49:15]
based on the previous year. So what they
[49:18]
what they did in the fall of 26 is what
[49:20]
they pay in February of 27. So we'll
[49:23]
actually see that be less in their 28
[49:25]
budget for what they do for the fall of
[49:28]
27 when the renovations will be going
[49:30]
on.
[49:32]
So everything looks in line. They're
[49:34]
looking for us to um approve and agree
[49:38]
if we want to be a part of it and then
[49:40]
sign and return the authorization by
[49:42]
September 30th. So if um the board would
[49:46]
have anything want to discuss or
[49:49]
so inclined to approve
[49:52]
going forward tonight.
[49:55]
» Thank you.
[49:57]
» Any questions or comments for director
[49:59]
on this item? I think um we do want to
[50:02]
probably clarify in the motion language
[50:05]
exactly what portion lower is
[50:07]
responsible for versus the the total
[50:10]
aggregate of the five municipalities. So
[50:13]
maybe if we can
[50:15]
» I have those.
[50:16]
I'll but I'll give a chance. I don't
[50:17]
know if Commissioner Schwarz wants to
[50:19]
chime in as the um
[50:23]
from there. Any other further thoughts?
[50:29]
» Mr. Schwz, do you have anything else to
[50:31]
add or from being on with the board?
[50:35]
Uh yeah, the only other thing that I
[50:37]
would add is uh the the specific
[50:40]
shortfall that we're expecting for the
[50:43]
uh mandatory enclosure is about $65,000
[50:46]
in revenue. Um which uh the uh the
[50:51]
increase in the per capita rate uh won't
[50:56]
cover all of that. We're we're dipping
[50:58]
into uh the commission's uh general fund
[51:02]
balance um a bit to help cover that. um
[51:06]
not putting all of the shortfall onto
[51:10]
the municipalities but um and uh I also
[51:14]
wanted to highlight in uh 23 24 and 25
[51:19]
we uh approved um uh 10 cent per capita
[51:23]
increases um to help keep up with uh
[51:27]
rising costs. And so really uh this is
[51:32]
more of a 5 cent uh per capita increase
[51:36]
u attri attributable to the uh to the
[51:39]
mandatorium closure. So, um I just
[51:43]
wanted to put that out there for
[51:45]
perspective. Um and uh so that uh we all
[51:50]
sort of understand in the grand scheme
[51:52]
of things it's it's not a huge increase
[51:54]
and it'll help the organization uh
[51:57]
continue to remain viable and provide uh
[51:59]
good services to residents um and good
[52:02]
recreation activities. So, um, so I'm
[52:06]
all for it and if, uh, if anybody has
[52:09]
any question additional questions,
[52:12]
I'm happy to try to answer the best I
[52:15]
can.
[52:17]
» Thank you, Commissioner Schwarz.
[52:19]
» You know, I would echo those sentiments.
[52:21]
I think for the the amount we pay, the
[52:24]
the benefits are definitely mismatched.
[52:26]
We we do a get a great service from them
[52:29]
um for what the the true costs are. So,
[52:31]
I will be happy to uh make the motion
[52:34]
and accept the Westshore Recreation
[52:36]
Commission's proposed fee increase from
[52:38]
$3.30
[52:40]
to $345
[52:42]
per capita for 2027.
[52:45]
The increase to Lower Allen Township at
[52:48]
$2,56455
[52:53]
with a total payment of $58,98465.
[53:04]
A motion from Vice President and a
[53:07]
second from Commissioner Brown. Sorry,
[53:10]
it was just because of the time delays,
[53:12]
but [laughter]
[53:13]
» That's fine.
[53:14]
» Okay.
[53:16]
Um, so we have a a motion and a second,
[53:18]
so I'll call for the vote. All those in
[53:20]
favor, please say I.
[53:22]
» I.
[53:22]
» I.
[53:23]
» I.
[53:24]
» Any opposed?
[53:26]
Okay. Motion carries five to zero. And
[53:28]
again, just want to echo every
[53:30]
sentiments in terms of the um the the
[53:32]
programs that the commission provides to
[53:34]
our township and local community and
[53:36]
we're glad to have them continuing their
[53:38]
their programs.
[53:42]
» That's everything from Okay. Thank you,
[53:44]
Director. And we'll turn to Manager
[53:46]
Davis. Looks like you have a few items
[53:47]
to cover.
[53:48]
» Thank you, Madam President. Appreciate
[53:50]
it. Um yeah, my first item for
[53:52]
discussion and possible action would be
[53:54]
to authorize the manager to provide
[53:56]
formal notice to the Cland County adult
[53:59]
probation office that the township will
[54:01]
not be offering the use of the township
[54:03]
facilities including Boris Hall meeting
[54:06]
space for the county's DUI school
[54:07]
effective January 1st of 2027.
[54:10]
We've identified that the meeting space
[54:12]
is no longer conducive for their meeting
[54:14]
needs and so we'd like to get this
[54:16]
letter out to them to give them ample
[54:17]
time to make other arrangements. Thank
[54:19]
you. Any questions on this item?
[54:26]
» I'll move to authorize the manager to
[54:27]
provide formal notice to Cumberland
[54:29]
County that the township will not be
[54:31]
offering township facilities
[54:34]
including meeting space for the county
[54:36]
program effective January 1st.
[54:39]
» Second.
[54:40]
» Okay. I have a motion from Commissioner
[54:42]
and a second from Commissioner Brown.
[54:44]
Any questions or comments?
[54:47]
Hearing none, I'll call for the vote.
[54:48]
All those in favor, please say I.
[54:51]
» I.
[54:51]
» I.
[54:52]
» I.
[54:53]
» Any opposed? Motion carries. 5 to zero.
[54:57]
» Thank you. Next item would be for
[54:59]
discussion and possible action. This
[55:01]
would be to approve a policy making the
[55:03]
health savings account or HSA plan
[55:05]
mandatory for all new nonuniform
[55:08]
employees requiring health insurance
[55:09]
effective August 25th, 2026. I have a
[55:13]
memo in your packet and as we've
[55:14]
discussed with the board,
[55:16]
representatives have indicated that we
[55:18]
will u continue to receive increases in
[55:21]
our healthcare costs. Uh we had a 20%
[55:23]
increase in 26. Uh they're projecting
[55:26]
15%. Um we expect to receive those
[55:28]
numbers in midocctober closer to our
[55:30]
budget time. Requiring these new hires
[55:34]
to enroll will help to mitigate the cost
[55:35]
increase experienced by the township. It
[55:38]
will take time for the savings to be to
[55:40]
be quantified but the requirement will
[55:41]
be the start for for that beginning that
[55:44]
process as more employees
[55:46]
plan. Um, it'll also allow employees to
[55:50]
build uh savings for healthare costs now
[55:52]
and into retirement. So, I'm just
[55:54]
looking for discussion from the board
[55:57]
and we'll help to enter or happy to
[55:58]
entertain any questions you may have
[56:00]
about this
[56:04]
» Question.
[56:09]
Start day one.
[56:11]
» Correct.
[56:11]
» Correct.
[56:14]
» December.
[56:15]
um a little earlier than that, November
[56:18]
for January, but yes, around that time.
[56:20]
Commissioner Mler,
[56:24]
» I was just going to say thank you for
[56:25]
sharing all the information on on the
[56:27]
plan and it looks like an excellent
[56:29]
plan. So,
[56:31]
I have no issue making it mandatory
[56:33]
because I would really like to have this
[56:35]
plan myself. So,
[56:38]
if there's no other questions, I would
[56:40]
make a motion to approve
[56:44]
the polic making the health savings
[56:46]
account plan mandatory for all new
[56:48]
non-uniform employees requiring health
[56:50]
insurance effective August 25th, 2026.
[56:55]
» I have a motion from Commissioner Brown
[56:57]
and a second from Commissioner. Any
[56:59]
questions or comments?
[57:02]
I hear none. I'll call for the vote. All
[57:03]
those in favor, please say I.
[57:06]
» I.
[57:07]
» I.
[57:08]
» Any opposed? Motion carries 5 to Z.
[57:11]
Thank you for bringing this to our
[57:13]
attention. Absolutely. Um the next item
[57:16]
I have for discussion on possible action
[57:18]
this would be to authorize a manager to
[57:19]
establish a public safety committee uh
[57:22]
including key staff volunteer fire
[57:24]
company chiefs and appointed
[57:25]
commissioners as primary leazison and
[57:27]
alternate or secondary leazison to the
[57:29]
committee. I included a memo in your
[57:32]
packet. um happy to entertain any
[57:34]
questions, but I think it would be
[57:35]
important for us to uh start this
[57:37]
committee and have a consistent process
[57:39]
for reviewing community safety needs,
[57:42]
developing recommendations concerning
[57:44]
police, fire, rescue, EMS, and emergency
[57:46]
management and preparedness matters. And
[57:49]
I'd like to start meeting um initially
[57:51]
monthly and then we can determine
[57:53]
scheduling um from that point forward.
[57:57]
» Thank you. That sounds like a very very
[57:59]
good idea. open it up to any questions
[58:02]
about this committee.
[58:04]
» No, I think the success of the the
[58:06]
finance committee, this would apply
[58:09]
perfectly here. This is a great
[58:10]
application for that and I think would
[58:12]
go a long ways to to getting everyone on
[58:14]
the the same page and bringing the
[58:18]
volunteers into more of the township
[58:19]
processes so they're the township
[58:22]
processes are less of a mystery and less
[58:24]
misunderstood. So, I think this is a
[58:27]
great idea to get everyone on the same
[58:28]
page.
[58:33]
comments
[58:37]
for a motion to authorize
[58:39]
Davis to establish a committee.
[58:42]
» Madam President, we'll make the motion
[58:43]
to authorize Manager Davis to establish
[58:46]
a public safety committee including key
[58:48]
staff, volunteer fire company, fire
[58:50]
chiefs, and appointed commissioners as a
[58:53]
primary liaison and alternate secondary
[58:56]
liaison.
[58:58]
» We have a motion Vice President and a
[59:00]
second from Commissioner Mler. Any
[59:02]
questions or comments?
[59:04]
» Madam President, the only question I
[59:06]
have is I assume I would be keeping the
[59:08]
leazison the same as we have already
[59:09]
established for our public safety
[59:11]
department, which would be Vice
[59:12]
President Naggie and Commissioner Brown.
[59:15]
» We can open that up.
[59:18]
» I'm not opposed to it, but I know we had
[59:22]
the traffic committee
[59:26]
on
[59:31]
more than
[59:40]
any objections to
[59:44]
Vice President and Commissioner Brown
[59:46]
being our objections from any other
[59:49]
commissioner.
[59:52]
» I I don't I'm I'm fine with that. Um and
[59:56]
if they're uh
[59:58]
If there are uh specific uh uh public
[1:00:01]
safety initiatives around uh traffic
[1:00:04]
calming and uh pedestrian bicyclist
[1:00:07]
safety, uh I would uh probably on an ad
[1:00:11]
hoc basis express my interest and see if
[1:00:13]
we can just work something out. So, but
[1:00:15]
I think for general purposes, I'm
[1:00:19]
perfectly fine uh uh Vice President Navy
[1:00:23]
and Commissioner Brown to uh take the
[1:00:26]
lead on that.
[1:00:28]
Okay, thank you Commissioner Schwarz. So
[1:00:30]
I guess could we make the motion twofold
[1:00:33]
then
[1:00:35]
authorizing the formation of the
[1:00:37]
committee and then also appointing our
[1:00:39]
leaison.
[1:00:55]
» Okay.
[1:00:57]
Okay. So, let's um vote. We have a
[1:00:59]
motion from Vice President Ngi and a
[1:01:01]
second from Commissioner Moler on the
[1:01:02]
authorization to establish the
[1:01:04]
committee. Um all those in favor, please
[1:01:06]
say I.
[1:01:07]
» I.
[1:01:08]
» I.
[1:01:09]
» I.
[1:01:10]
» Okay. Any opposed? All right. That
[1:01:12]
motion carries. And then secondarily,
[1:01:15]
we'd be looking for a motion just to
[1:01:17]
underneath this authorization to appoint
[1:01:20]
the primary and secondary leazison from
[1:01:22]
the board.
[1:01:23]
» Make a motion. Vice President.
[1:01:33]
» Okay, I have a motion from Commissioner
[1:01:35]
Mler and a second from Commissioner
[1:01:37]
Schwarz. Any questions or comments?
[1:01:40]
» Okay, I'll call for the vote. All those
[1:01:41]
in favor, please say
[1:01:42]
» I.
[1:01:45]
» I.
[1:01:46]
» Any opposed? Okay, motion carries five
[1:01:49]
to zero. And looks like you have one
[1:01:52]
more note for us.
[1:01:53]
» Yes, just one more note to to remind you
[1:01:55]
that we have an open house scheduled.
[1:01:57]
It's prior to our next meeting. There's
[1:01:59]
a flyer in your packets that explains
[1:02:00]
the details. Um, and we'll also at that
[1:02:02]
same meeting be having a presentation
[1:02:04]
from Seth Barry on our solar panels at
[1:02:07]
the beginning of that meeting. So, just
[1:02:08]
wanted to remind the commissioners about
[1:02:09]
that.
[1:02:11]
» Sounds like a great open house and look
[1:02:13]
forward to attending it.
[1:02:16]
» All right. Um, with that, we will open
[1:02:19]
up the meeting just if there's anything
[1:02:20]
for the good of the order from our
[1:02:22]
solicitor, director. Any residents in
[1:02:26]
attendance?
[1:02:28]
» Yes, sir.
[1:02:36]
» Hi. If you could just state your name
[1:02:37]
and address.
[1:02:38]
» Paul Stagger, 32 Scarsdale Drive, Ross
[1:02:41]
Point Manor, Lauren Township. Um,
[1:02:45]
obviously we've had a big project going
[1:02:47]
on in our neighborhood. Uh, I just had
[1:02:50]
some questions I was hoping I could get
[1:02:52]
some answers on. Um
[1:02:56]
» The the curbing
[1:02:59]
is that being replaced as part of the
[1:03:01]
paving project?
[1:03:02]
» We'll turn it over to director.
[1:03:04]
» Curving is not being replaced. Curving
[1:03:06]
is the ultimate responsibility of the
[1:03:08]
property. So
[1:03:09]
» Okay. So even even though the curbing
[1:03:11]
has a footing that extends 12 in out
[1:03:14]
into the street,
[1:03:15]
» The gutter line, we're not repl
[1:03:21]
in areas where
[1:03:23]
the the curb line is the curb reveal is
[1:03:27]
only about one to two inches or totally
[1:03:29]
deteriorating.
[1:03:32]
» That's not being replaced. So you're the
[1:03:34]
the intention is to repave the street
[1:03:37]
brand new scratch course wearing course.
[1:03:42]
» So if if a home if a homeowner wants to
[1:03:46]
replace the curving,
[1:03:49]
they have to dig up the street.
[1:03:51]
» Correct.
[1:03:53]
12 in out.
[1:03:55]
» We would we would we would likely just
[1:03:58]
make them do a vertical curve. We would
[1:03:59]
not replace the curve gutter because
[1:04:01]
we're just paving over the curve gutter.
[1:04:03]
» Okay.
[1:04:04]
» We're paving over the the concrete
[1:04:05]
gutter line that's there today.
[1:04:08]
That's part of the change order that was
[1:04:10]
so we are milling that down to provide
[1:04:13]
sufficient cover of the pavement over
[1:04:15]
top of that existing gut line that we
[1:04:18]
weren't aware. So to match the curb
[1:04:22]
reveal
[1:04:24]
» We'll be we'll be replacing
[1:04:26]
» You won't be hitting four inches
[1:04:29]
» Of curb reveal you you might be hitting
[1:04:32]
one.
[1:04:32]
» So whatever whatever is there should be
[1:04:35]
matching.
[1:04:36]
» Okay. So that is the homeowner's
[1:04:37]
responsibility.
[1:04:38]
» So if we want to replace our curving
[1:04:41]
we have to have someone dig up the brand
[1:04:45]
new street.
[1:04:47]
That's why that's why a year ago we had
[1:04:49]
sent the correspondence out to all the
[1:04:51]
property owners letting them know if you
[1:04:54]
need any issues or if you have any
[1:04:55]
issues with your property and you need
[1:04:58]
to replace it now is the time to do so
[1:05:01]
that a year ago.
[1:05:07]
So ENK
[1:05:09]
had a change order that increased the
[1:05:12]
milling
[1:05:14]
price by about 16%. That was approved.
[1:05:21]
» Okay.
[1:05:24]
Does it does this does this seem like it
[1:05:28]
should fall like when the houses when
[1:05:30]
the houses were built
[1:05:32]
did the home the first time home buyers
[1:05:36]
buy the curb?
[1:05:38]
» I can't answer.
[1:05:45]
» I don't have that. I don't have that. Do
[1:05:47]
do you see where I'm come like where I'm
[1:05:50]
asking
[1:05:51]
» Like where I'm coming from with the
[1:05:53]
question?
[1:05:53]
» Right. You're you're looking for the
[1:05:55]
township to replace all the curb as part
[1:05:57]
» I I'm just I it to it to me it makes
[1:06:00]
more sense. Why wouldn't the curb be
[1:06:03]
replaced with if you're doing a full
[1:06:05]
depth replacement why wouldn't the curb
[1:06:08]
be replaced?
[1:06:10]
» I mean part of it concern cost. That's a
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that's a huge undertaking.
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» Yeah, I No, I I understand that. I'm an
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engineer.
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» What's the value we're getting back out
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of it?
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» Okay. You know,
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» But have you seen the curbs in Ross?
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Man,
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» Understand
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where we supposed to pull this? We don't
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have
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» K just asked for a 16% increase in
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milling
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» On a $1.2 million project. It's going to
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cost an additional $20,000.
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» Was ENK a low bid, no bid, or merit bid?
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» They were the lowest responsible.
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» Lowest responsible bidder. Okay.
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All right.
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So, if we want to replace our curbs, we
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are responsible for digging up the
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street, right?
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And how long has that always been the
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boss?
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» I I don't know the history of our
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ordinances, but that would go back.
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» I'm I'm I'm just asking if if that
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changed at some point because obviously
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you have houses that were built in the
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50s and 60s
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that the curbs were all installed when
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the street was paved.
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So, at what point did it change to where
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the homeowner became responsible for the
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curb?
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» Again, I don't have the answer.
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» It just
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» Again sir. Yes, the sidewalks and curbs
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are are the responsibility of the
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property owner of the first class
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township code. And that would be true in
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any first class township in the
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» So even though they have a footing that
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goes underneath the public street
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» And again
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I'm I'm only telling you the general
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law. The streets were dedicated when the
[1:08:05]
developer completed Rossmo Manor. Okay.
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So, I don't I and again I don't know who
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the engineer approved it that way, but
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that those public improvements were
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accepted by the township, but the
[1:08:15]
ongoing maintenance of those curbs and
[1:08:17]
sidewalks of the property owner and if
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they aren't done at some point in time,
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there can be assessments levied against
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those property owners.
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» Okay? Including the footing that goes
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underneath the public street just to be
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clear.
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» And again, if that's part of the the
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curving in sidewalk then my answer is
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yes. I just I'm not an engineer but I
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don't see that plan but that ordinarily
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is true of our township and any other
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township.
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» Are you able to weigh in on this at all
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from your engineer perspective?
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I was going to say from that
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perspective, yes, it is part of the
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curve and under the first class code, it
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is someone's responsibility because it's
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designed as a curve to gutter and it's
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considered one.
[1:09:05]
» Okay.
[1:09:06]
» So, unfortunately, that sounds like the
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way that it
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» I just I just wanted to ask
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» Yeah.
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» Get an answer. And the question is for
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from for from for me is you're taking
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the time to do this project to repave
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the road. Wouldn't it make sense to just
[1:09:26]
do it all in one?
[1:09:28]
But I mean, we've had several problems.
[1:09:31]
I've already replaced the struts on my
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Jeep in my just driving down the road.
[1:09:38]
It's this has been an ongoing problem.
[1:09:39]
There have been sink holes.
[1:09:41]
numerous problems and I just don't
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understand why we wouldn't
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just do it all as one part of
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one one single project.
[1:09:57]
» Again, we're not we haven't been
[1:10:00]
replacing any curbs. We don't intend to
[1:10:01]
replace curbs. That's beyond our scope
[1:10:04]
of work.
[1:10:04]
» So are you so if we so as a homeowner as
[1:10:08]
somebody who wants to replace
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curb. Is it appropriate to just saw cut
[1:10:12]
down and leave
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» The footing in place?
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» Again, that would be the most They're
[1:10:18]
going to have to excavate that out
[1:10:19]
anyway, the gutter line.
[1:10:22]
» Why didn't they do that when they did
[1:10:23]
the ADA ramps?
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» They did.
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» Did So, so they did that, but they
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» You won't do that with the street,
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» Right? Because 16 feet around the corner
[1:10:38]
of the curve is a lot
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That's that's a federal law that comes
[1:10:42]
into play for the township.
[1:10:45]
» The ADA is a federal law we have to
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adhere to,
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» Right? And I'm all in I don't know if
[1:10:50]
you remember me, I was here before and
[1:10:51]
in support of the ADA ramps.
[1:10:54]
» Yes.
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» Because there were people who are
[1:10:56]
opposed to it,
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» Right?
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» Which I don't understand that. It just
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doesn't make sense to me
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that these aging curbs which are going
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to be deteriorated very soon or already
[1:11:10]
deteriorated wouldn't be replaced when
[1:11:12]
you're ready to put a new at least one
[1:11:16]
and a half inch scratch course and
[1:11:17]
wearing course on top.
[1:11:21]
I guess solicitor minor I guess the
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answer is it's within within the code
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it's not we're not even able to do that.
[1:11:29]
Is that correct? Well, I think it's a
[1:11:31]
budget matter as well, but I mean I
[1:11:33]
think that the rationale with the
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legislature when they wrote the code was
[1:11:36]
that should be the homeowner's
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responsibility and and again that's been
[1:11:41]
that way as long as there's first class
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and I think that's also true in other
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townships codes. But certainly that's
[1:11:45]
been true since the first class township
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code was enacted and they just
[1:11:49]
recottified it in 2026. It's still there
[1:11:52]
» And I just need to comment our last
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paving project in Allenale we did not
[1:11:55]
replace curves and we had some similar
[1:11:57]
situations. So some home homeowners
[1:11:59]
maybe cutting at the connection to the
[1:12:03]
street. But that's been our consistent
[1:12:05]
process here to follow the first class
[1:12:06]
township code. So I've been here through
[1:12:08]
several paving projects. It's consistent
[1:12:11]
how we've been the projects.
[1:12:13]
» Okay. Does it does it seem prudent from
[1:12:17]
a budget standpoint to
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saw cut
[1:12:22]
the curb and just replace it in kind
[1:12:25]
right there and not replace the footing?
[1:12:30]
I'm you're saying for the township to do
[1:12:33]
all that work
[1:12:38]
some of the neighbors some of the
[1:12:39]
neighborhoods have the actual gutter the
[1:12:41]
footing as you're calling it to the curb
[1:12:43]
some don't in either case no matter
[1:12:46]
whether it's a straight curve or the
[1:12:48]
curb and gutter system our intention is
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not to
[1:12:52]
» All right so I I live at the corner of
[1:12:54]
Scarzil in the Bonsza and we have a
[1:12:57]
serious drainage issue where every time
[1:12:59]
it rains
[1:13:02]
there are puddles on every corner. Is
[1:13:05]
this is is there any plan for
[1:13:09]
storm water management improvements that
[1:13:12]
haven't been done yet?
[1:13:13]
» Uh with what's been done that that will
[1:13:16]
be the improvement. We are not coming
[1:13:19]
back to do anymore.
[1:13:21]
» So storm water infrastructure is done
[1:13:23]
instructure is complete.
[1:13:28]
All right.
[1:13:30]
Thank you for your time.
[1:13:32]
» Okay. Thank you for coming tonight.
[1:13:36]
» Any anything else to go to the order
[1:13:38]
from any of the director staff?
[1:13:44]
Okay. All right. We'll move on to
[1:13:46]
commissioner reports and we'll begin
[1:13:47]
with Commissioner Schwarz, please.
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» Thank you, Madam President. I have any
[1:13:54]
uh updates other than to uh thank
[1:13:56]
everybody for uh accommodating uh my
[1:13:59]
family this evening. I really appreciate
[1:14:01]
it and I hope everybody has an excellent
[1:14:04]
rest of your day.
[1:14:05]
» Thank you, Commissioner Schwarz. And we
[1:14:06]
we hope uh little Theo feels better. So,
[1:14:10]
um Commissioner Schwarz or Commissioner,
[1:14:14]
» A couple of event reminders from the Re
[1:14:16]
Parks Board coming up on Thursday,
[1:14:18]
September 17th from 4:30 to 7 at Lower
[1:14:21]
Community Park. It's
[1:14:23]
which is a dog friendly event at the dog
[1:14:24]
park and then Saturday October 17th from
[1:14:27]
10 to 2 at
[1:14:29]
board is sponsoring a fall craft and
[1:14:30]
harvest fair
[1:14:33]
which can be more information can be
[1:14:34]
found on the website and on Facebook
[1:14:38]
and don't forget tomorrow's first day of
[1:14:39]
school we all know but stop for buses
[1:14:42]
watch for kids
[1:14:45]
» Thank you
[1:14:47]
» Yeah I was just gonna say um good luck
[1:14:49]
to all the students returning tomorrow
[1:14:52]
And um also wanted to uh say to Captain
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Folks um you know
[1:14:58]
coaching baseball and being out in the
[1:14:59]
community around a 15 year old kids and
[1:15:01]
and um the success of the the school
[1:15:05]
resource officer program um and and in
[1:15:08]
particular officer Lightner at the high
[1:15:11]
school. Um hearing these young men the
[1:15:13]
way they talk about Officer Lightner uh
[1:15:16]
he he has earned their respect and the
[1:15:20]
improvements and and just
[1:15:24]
I don't want to get into too much detail
[1:15:25]
or whatever, but but just how much
[1:15:28]
better that school is to attend for all
[1:15:31]
the students because of his presence and
[1:15:34]
um just the little things. I mean, he
[1:15:36]
knows their birthdays. He say, you know,
[1:15:39]
he sees them out in public. He talks to
[1:15:40]
them. Um a bunch of the students were
[1:15:43]
doing a pickle ball tournament um and
[1:15:45]
they were short of team and officer
[1:15:47]
Lightner and and uh and another has
[1:15:51]
joined in to to round out the tournament
[1:15:53]
and then they're apparently pretty good
[1:15:55]
and disqualified themselves at the end
[1:15:57]
so they couldn't win it and and let some
[1:15:59]
other teams go on. But those are the
[1:16:01]
little things that that really helped
[1:16:03]
the community and really helped the
[1:16:04]
school and I think that that school
[1:16:06]
resource officer program has been a
[1:16:08]
tremendous success and a large part of
[1:16:10]
it is because of who's in place there
[1:16:13]
and so excellent job an excellent job to
[1:16:16]
officer. Thank you.
[1:16:19]
I would echo those same sentiments from
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feedback from others at the high school.
[1:16:23]
His presence is certainly very
[1:16:25]
wellreceived and very positive there.
[1:16:27]
So,
[1:16:30]
» Thank you, Madam President. Just uh a
[1:16:32]
thank you to all the years of service
[1:16:34]
folks uh tonight. 20 years and 30 years
[1:16:36]
is a heck of a achievement here to the
[1:16:39]
uh commendation. Thank you for your
[1:16:42]
efforts during during the storm.
[1:16:45]
Thank you.
[1:16:48]
Um, and I'll just make a quick
[1:16:49]
announcement. Um, just to remind the
[1:16:50]
board that the annual Capcog golf and
[1:16:53]
picnic um, and the annual meeting is
[1:16:55]
September 21st at the Armadage um, golf
[1:16:58]
club golf course. Um, also wanted to
[1:17:01]
just uh, provide a quick shout out. Um,
[1:17:04]
this past Saturday u, manager Davis and
[1:17:06]
I were involved in the the county
[1:17:09]
commission for women and um, we
[1:17:13]
basically were on the committee
[1:17:14]
spearheading the women in government
[1:17:16]
that was hosted here on Saturday. And I
[1:17:19]
just want to give a a shout out to
[1:17:21]
Lauren Castleberry and and Megan
[1:17:22]
Cleansing. Um they were panelists in the
[1:17:25]
non-elected panel that day and they just
[1:17:28]
did a fabulous job of really explaining
[1:17:31]
um sort of how they became involved in
[1:17:32]
the park and rec board and and sort of
[1:17:35]
what their purpose is and and um why
[1:17:38]
they find it to be rewarding. And I I
[1:17:40]
just think it's they're they're both
[1:17:41]
very valuable assets on the board and uh
[1:17:44]
just appreciate them. serving in that
[1:17:46]
capacity and also participating in our
[1:17:49]
event this past Saturday. So, kudos to
[1:17:51]
them. And again, I'll just echo the uh
[1:17:54]
sentiments of the board that we hope
[1:17:56]
everyone and all the families in our
[1:17:57]
township have a wonderful uh first day
[1:18:00]
back to school and a safe year ahead.
[1:18:02]
So, um with that, we'll turn to announce
[1:18:05]
that the next meeting will be Monday,
[1:18:07]
September 14th, 2026 at 6 o'clock p.m.
[1:18:10]
here at the township. Um and we will at
[1:18:13]
this time be recessing to executive
[1:18:15]
session to discuss two matters. One of
[1:18:17]
which is the appointments for boards and
[1:18:19]
commissions and the second is a personal
[1:18:22]
matter. Thank you.
[2:13:55]
few action items coming from our
[2:13:57]
executive session discussions.
[2:14:01]
» Yes, madame president. I'd like to make
[2:14:02]
a motion um for the reassignment of
[2:14:05]
duties for Keegan Toot from training and
[2:14:07]
volunteer coordinator to PSO at his
[2:14:10]
current salary.
[2:14:12]
Second.
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» We have a motion from Commissioner Brown
[2:14:15]
and a second from Commissioner Mler. Any
[2:14:18]
questions or comments?
[2:14:21]
» All those in favor, please say I.
[2:14:23]
» I.
[2:14:25]
» I.
[2:14:26]
» Any opposed? Motion carries 5 to Z.
[2:14:30]
» Madame President, I would make the
[2:14:32]
motion to engage and accept the fire
[2:14:34]
chief recruitment proposal from GMP
[2:14:37]
Consultants.
[2:14:39]
» Second. I have a motion from Vice
[2:14:40]
President Ngi and a second from
[2:14:42]
Commissioner Brown. Any questions or
[2:14:43]
comments? Okay, I'll call for the vote.
[2:14:46]
All those in favor, please say I.
[2:14:48]
» I.
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» I.
[2:14:50]
» I.
[2:14:51]
» Any opposed? Motion carries. 5 to Z.
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One last action item.
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» Yes. I move to appoint Williamley as the
[2:15:00]
interim emergency operations
[2:15:01]
coordinator.
[2:15:03]
Second.
[2:15:05]
» Manager Davis. Do we need to clarify the
[2:15:07]
title of that?
[2:15:10]
» It was emergency management.
[2:15:14]
» I'll withdraw my secondly
[2:15:18]
as the inter emergency operations
[2:15:21]
management coordinator.
[2:15:26]
» Emergency management.
[2:15:29]
» Okay, great. So, we have a motion from
[2:15:31]
Commissioner Brown and a second from Oh,
[2:15:33]
a motion from Commissioner. I'll second
[2:15:35]
» And a second from Commissioner Brown.
[2:15:37]
Um, any further questions or comments or
[2:15:40]
corrections?
[2:15:42]
» Okay, I'll call for the vote. All those
[2:15:44]
in favor, please say I.
[2:15:46]
» I.
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» I.
[2:15:48]
» Any opposed? Okay, motion carries 5 to
[2:15:51]
zero. And I believe that concludes our
[2:15:53]
meeting for this evening. Unless there's
[2:15:55]
anything further.
[2:15:56]
» Okay, seeing none, the meeting is
[2:15:58]
adjourned. Have a good night.