[27:11] Everybody >> welcome board meeting for June 24th

[27:18] and uh the everybody is welcome to join in person in by Zoom or on Facebook if

[27:25] you would like to join by Zoom. The instructions are at the beginning of

[27:28] each agenda. And this will be available um online

[27:32] tomorrow as well. So um we're going to start with asking

[27:37] counselor to lead people

[27:45] to the flag of America and to the republic for it

[27:50] stands nationy [clears throat]

[27:55] andice for

[28:05] proclamation on the occasion of the 250th anniversary of the United States.

[28:10] Whereas on July 4th, 206, the United States would celebrate its

[28:15] 250th anniversary, marking the signing of Declaration of Independence and the

[28:19] founding of our nation. And whereas our founders established a nation based on

[28:24] equality and alien level rights and the pursuit of happiness principles that

[28:28] have guided America's enduring legacy of freedom and achievement. And whereas our

[28:32] system of representation of government is based on the wisdom of the shony.

[28:37] Whereas local government plays a vital role in teaching civic values, honoring

[28:41] our history and fostering patriotism and unity among new generations. Now

[28:45] therefore be a resolve of time mania has called on the community to join in this

[28:49] celebration reflect on our nation's journey and recommmit to the founding

[28:53] principles that made America strong and united and be a further resolve town

[28:58] families proudly commemorates America's 250th anniversary by raising a semi

[29:04] centennial flag at town hall to celebrate our nation's history and

[29:08] future on July 1st 2026 at noon thank so hopefully you guys not come

[29:18] Now it's time for open podium. If anybody would like to speak at open

[29:22] podium, please feel free to come up.

[29:27] » It wasn't. >> Okay.

[29:43] » Hello. Uh Tom Bassid uh retired real estate lawyer, longtime town resident.

[29:49] So I I just come before you for uh uh two purposes. Uh one is to in in both

[29:55] cases I wanted to commend the board for actions that they have taken. uh the uh

[30:01] one of the one of the actions was to contract with uh I don't know if there's

[30:06] a contract or not with Maxwell School to have an analysis made of the options and

[30:12] that's going to be presented [clears throat] momentarily I guess

[30:16] options as to what to do about the need for improved facilities with police

[30:23] department and the uh town offices and uh uh I sort of blew through the very

[30:30] lengthy uh reported uh that that's going to be touched upon

[30:35] I guess or described momentarily. It outlines uh uh several different

[30:40] options rehabbing this building. Uh well, you you you've seen what the

[30:46] objects are and and and the uh there are cost projections

[30:51] uh impact on taxes and uh uh and so there pros and cons to uh each option.

[30:59] So you have a difficult task in uh in deciding ultimately what to do because

[31:06] uh there just like I said there pros and cons to various optics, different costs,

[31:11] different impacts on taxpayers, different uh uh priorities. So I I I

[31:17] wish you luck with that. Uh but I'm glad that you undertook that study because as

[31:23] you know there are two prior proposals as far as acquisition of land on Berdick

[31:30] Street and then uh basically in the northeast medical area. Uh those uh

[31:35] plans uh fell through partially as a result of substantially as a result of

[31:40] lack of citizen input and uh careful analysis of of the factors that are

[31:47] outlined in this report. So the second subject uh oh

[31:54] I have two sort of self-deprecating things to say. One being uh you're here

[31:59] for this report, right? So um I was rejected by the Maxwell School.

[32:05] [laughter]

[32:08] so long ago when I was trying to get a dual degree between the law school and

[32:12] the national school but but uh the national school obviously is the number

[32:16] one uh uh school in the country for public administration and other such

[32:20] affairs but I don't hold it against you because my my qualifications were not up

[32:26] to up to par but the second item I wanted to address was the uh regressive

[32:33] decision on the part of the board uh to pick Brett as a a a new counselor. I

[32:40] don't know what the process was. What I know is uh based on resumes uh that uh

[32:47] uh he's well qualified, brings uh an impressive academic record uh to the

[32:54] board, is a lawyer, not that there's anything necessarily inherently good or

[32:59] bad about being a lawyer, but he's a lawyer. [laughter]

[33:04] And I uh suppressed the um bias uh that I might have had as far as having gone

[33:12] to Dartmouth College, his having gone to Yale University, I think, and Yale Law

[33:17] School. All good because the qualifications he

[33:21] he brings are are excellent. But the other aspect of it was that it it shows

[33:27] a a welcomeness of of diversity uh of the sort that you're aware of. uh our

[33:33] society is backsliding in certain ways uh as far in a lot of different areas

[33:39] including uh what had originally been the successful uh gay rights movement.

[33:45] Uh and uh as the parent of uh of a daughter who was in a a same-sex marital

[33:53] relationship uh those individuals are parents of our two granddaughters. I was

[33:58] particularly moved when I saw the video of the swearing in ceremony uh which was

[34:04] held here where uh Rat's spouse brought their children and uh it was quite

[34:11] moving but none of that would have occurred unless you had the willingness

[34:15] to be progressive enough to uh set aside whatever classes you might have had and

[34:22] uh embrace the diversity which uh our society is dependent upon. Thanks so

[34:28] much.

[34:42] Yeah, I would. >> So, I'll just realize

[34:51] » Pat Allen Manoa. So, I I I had the chance to read through the Maxwell

[34:58] presentation with us. >> Very good. Very thorough. But I I just

[35:02] had a question, right? I was under the impression that we're still open to

[35:07] exploring other options. So what we see in the Maxwell report is a whole buffet

[35:14] of options to consider. Right? >> But there could be other options that

[35:22] are added to the buffet table to make our choices that much richer.

[35:27] » Okay. So we're we're all in agreement with that, right?

[35:30] » There there may be fashion twists. could be could be 7G. Who who knows? You've

[35:35] got a lot of bright people there participating and and offering up stuff.

[35:40] But I was just a little alarmed because one could draw the conclusion from the

[35:45] document that here's your options. [laughter]

[35:49] And I think that if I may, you can add to this, but there has to be a student

[35:55] project with an end piece of project. They had to put something together for

[35:59] this project. That doesn't mean it's what the study group has to use. They

[36:04] have to put it together. >> Right.

[36:06] » Right. Okay. [laughter] Because it would be very easy to misinterpret that

[36:10] presentation of here you go. >> So, okay. Thank you.

[36:14] » Thank you. >> It's not the end. It's just a start.

[36:20] » Yes. >> Anybody else? All right. Well, speaking

[36:24] of presentations, do you want to say speakers?

[36:28] » Sure. Um, so I'll introduce U. Professor Pete Wilhox. He was the advisor for the

[36:35] Capstone Group that did this research. We they worked with us for about three

[36:41] weeks. They went on tours of this building, our police department,

[36:48] uh, Canelis and Dit Police Departments and town halls and did quite a bit of

[36:54] research to come up with this report. Their capstone period ended yesterday

[37:02] and so, Professor Wiloxin is sharing on their behalf.

[37:16] Okay. Yeah. Thank you everyone for being here and thank you for the opportunity.

[37:21] Uh I am a standin for uh a student team who completed this project as part of

[37:27] their master's degree and they graduated yesterday and got on airplanes this

[37:32] morning. And so you are stuck with me. They would have been notified. uh but I

[37:37] want to emphasize from the outset that our task I'm going to go through this in

[37:42] the slice but our task was not to make any decisions of any kind or limit the

[37:48] community in any way. I should also say by the way since we're doing

[37:51] introductions that I am a resident of man uh and my wife teaches in the FM

[37:57] schools. Um so anyway our our mission was merely to coate the facts as inputs

[38:06] to the community engagement process and we were tasked with dreaming up some

[38:12] possible options but but not an exhaustive list. and Scott, the way that

[38:18] we think about it is we put together a menu. Uh, and so

[38:24] uh since a lot of you have uh already read u the presentation, I'll go through

[38:31] this pretty quickly, but uh there have been longstanding issues at the town

[38:36] hall and at the police station. Uh as probably everyone knows, the town hall

[38:41] is owned by the town. The police station is east from the village.

[38:46] um board uh started a community engagement process um including study

[38:52] group uh participants probably many of you are in the study group

[38:56] » several are >> yeah so

[38:58] » professor that microphone there will let the

[39:02] people that are watching you just be mindful when you turn

[39:05] » oh

[39:08] » um thank you uh and so so our our task was to pull together information.

[39:17] Uh and the key questions that we were trying to address are what are the key

[39:21] issues uh at those locations? What are some ways to prioritize those? What are

[39:27] some options for addressing them? And how can this information be communicated

[39:33] transparently and accessibly to the community? And so our overall process,

[39:39] this again is a slightly condensed version of what you've seen on the web

[39:42] if you've uh looked at the web is as Ingred mentioned uh there was a

[39:48] community listening session. The team did tours uh of both the manlas

[39:54] facilities and similar facilities in Dit and Camilis. Um we looked into legal

[40:00] requirements uh categorized uh the issues by uh type and prairie

[40:09] developed a preliminary set of options and did a preliminary cost benefit

[40:14] analysis of addressing those options and we put everything on the web. So uh

[40:21] again I think this is uh available to you but uh this um

[40:29] the students put together a website which includes uh information from this

[40:35] presentation. what we set out to do, uh how how we thought about the project,

[40:42] the options, uh how they compare, and then uh a whole

[40:48] menu of what the problems are and which options fix which problems. Uh and then

[40:53] at the bottom is all of the documents and analysis that we did. So, there's a

[41:00] costbenefit analysis spreadsheet. There's a PDF guide uh to it. There's

[41:06] information about what we learned about uh ADA requirements uh and what we

[41:12] learned about nonADA uh issues,

[41:17] a full slate of uh options to address all the issues, communication

[41:21] strategies, all this is available. And then at the bottom is a list of all the

[41:27] sources we use. So if anybody really wants to go in a deep dive, uh they can

[41:32] look at the spreadsheet which shows how all of this uh fits together or go

[41:37] through the original documents. Uh okay. Uh so uh whoa whoa whoa. Um

[41:48] okay. So one of the things we learned a bunch of things from the community

[41:52] listening session. uh it was super useful. One of the things that came

[41:56] through very clearly was that people wanted a list, a clear list of what the

[41:59] problems were. Uh they wanted transparency. Safety was a priority. ADA

[42:06] accessibility was a priority. Decision should be data driven. So we should

[42:10] provide as much data as we could. People were wary I think is a fair word to say

[42:16] about tax increases. Uh and uh the priority, sorry there's a zoom

[42:25] thing in my way here.

[42:30] Uh the priority was making everything functional but not necessarily

[42:33] impressive or attractive. And there was a question about how does maners compare

[42:38] with other towns. Uh so uh if you haven't seen the uh handout, I'll go

[42:44] through uh go through this quickly, but we did some comparison uh of adjacent

[42:49] towns. The orange bars are Manliest. Uh the blue bars are Dwit, Camilis, and

[42:54] Cicero. And of the four towns, Manliest has the largest population.

[43:00] Uh it also has the largest area which is uh relevant for among other things

[43:07] policing. Uh we looked at some financial variables

[43:12] as well. Household income and the size of the tax base of the four communities.

[43:18] The median household income in Manas is highest. Although to be sure, manus is

[43:25] very heterogeneous, right? So that's the median income. Uh but there certainly

[43:29] are people at other ends of the spectrum. and it has uh the second

[43:34] highest tax base. Uh we looked at the town's budget

[43:40] compared to others uh and Mammoth's town budget is about the same as Milis and

[43:46] Cicero, considerably lower in DIT. Uh and the property tax revenue uh is

[43:54] lowest uh of all four towns. The team did some additional comparisons

[44:02] by visiting facilities and they just for reference new has a larger town staff.

[44:08] It has considerably higher security has bulletproof glass and doors,

[44:13] interconnected private workspaces so that people can move back and forth

[44:17] without having to go into a public space. Uh it's fully ADA compliant.

[44:23] Camilis has what the team found to be a super important thing. They have a

[44:29] full-time building and maintenance supervisor whose job is to fix stuff and

[44:38] and they they just went through like a whole list of things that this person

[44:42] had fixed uh around the buildings that saved a ton

[44:47] of money, right? So, that's just a thing to put in the back of mind. Uh Primos

[44:51] has higher security. They have electronic blocks and badging systems

[44:55] and they are committed to becoming ADA compliant including uh an elevator

[44:59] retrofit. Okay, so that's the town comparison. We

[45:05] then uh tried to make a comprehensive list of all the issues that we could

[45:09] find from either talking to staff, talking to the community, reading the

[45:14] previous documents that had evaluated problems. We grouped everything into

[45:18] four categories. accessibility, safety and security, operational issues and

[45:26] electrical system issues. And then we put rank them into three priorities. Uh

[45:31] the highest priority are things that we believe are legally required. Uh the

[45:36] second pri uh category are things that we think are high priority to fix, but

[45:45] of course it's up to the community uh to do. And then the lowest are things that

[45:50] uh one might ideally fix uh if resources uh were not a problem.

[45:57] Here is a quick review of some of the issues. So for accessibility

[46:02] uh legally required for ADA compliance would be improved door handles, uh signs

[46:08] with rail. Uh things which are not strictly required uh include uh some

[46:16] additional automatic doors and an elevator or lift to help people uh who

[46:22] have challenges to get from one floor with their lane to another. As probably

[46:26] everyone knows that's not legally required because it's possible for a

[46:29] person to go outside and go around to the other entrance. So that's why it's

[46:33] on it should fix, but it certainly is uh inconvenient

[46:38] uh for people who have any kind of mobility issues. Um also adjusting

[46:43] counter heights so that they're wheelchair accessible

[46:47] is on that list. Uh for safety and security uh in town hall, uh improved

[46:54] security uh like batch door scanners, doors that lock from the inside. Uh this

[47:01] if you're not familiar with it in our modern world is an essential thing like

[47:05] at SU we've had u swatting incidents where people called and said there were

[47:11] active shooters in the building and it we discovered that people couldn't lock

[47:15] themselves in their office, right? They could only they could be locked into the

[47:20] office but you couldn't lock the office to prevent someone else from coming in.

[47:23] That's a serious security concern. And so one of the things that we think

[47:27] should be fixed is door should be lockable on the inside uh just in case

[47:33] of that kind of an incident. Also, another thing that uh should be ideally

[47:38] fixed is this. This picture will either be really familiar to you if you know

[47:42] town hall or it be kind of opaque. But this is showing downstairs and it's uh

[47:48] when court is in session, uh people who have to go to the restroom have to walk

[47:53] behind the security officer, which is clearly uh not uh a great uh security

[48:01] situation. So, that's uh another item to consider.

[48:06] uh on operational which is kind of a catch-all category. Uh state law

[48:10] requires towns to have secure record holding facilities that can ensure that

[48:16] records are not damaged and are protected from the elements. Uh and uh

[48:23] town hall could certainly use an upgrade in that. Uh also there's uh

[48:32] space uh shortages uh heating uh problems in some of the offices uh that

[48:38] are on the ideal fixed. Uh there were also concerns raised uh which is this is

[48:44] a little out of our uh daily work really but there were concerns raised about the

[48:50] age and uh integrity of the heating and ventilating and air conditioning system

[48:56] uh and some of the electrical wiring where there were um breakers tripped

[49:02] from seemingly innocuous uh loads being plugged in.

[49:08] So to come back to the real point, what we did is we took all of these things

[49:12] together and we made a menu. So the analogy with a buffet was perfect. So we

[49:19] made a menu and so this is all the items uh that we identified at town hall as

[49:25] concerns. um they're colorcoded by things that uh

[49:29] we think are required by law to be fixed, things that um would be desirable

[49:34] to fix, and then things that could be fixed uh if there were resources

[49:41] available uh and uh and and their categories, safety, security,

[49:48] operational and so on. So these are all the items uh at town hall.

[49:55] Uh at the police station uh the ADA doors and uh at the police station

[50:02] restrooms uh are required. Uh there are some hallways which are not ADA

[50:09] accessible and then uh ideally

[50:14] the students regard this as ideal. I think it probably should rank higher

[50:18] than that, but there are places there are stairs where if a disabled person

[50:23] arrives at the police station, someone has to get the person out and carry them

[50:28] up the stairs, right? And sometimes it could be a person who is uh under

[50:34] arrest. And so that clearly uh seems to be a priority. Uh

[50:41] uh there are also uh worn asbestous tiles uh in the floor uh which should be

[50:48] fixed to prevent people from being exposed to asbestosis.

[50:52] Uh there are limited holding cells. So it's quite common for there to be more

[50:57] people who need to be held in the police station than there are cells. Uh if

[51:02] you're unfamiliar with the police station, this uh line uh marks how far

[51:08] somebody who is in one of the cells uh can reach. Uh and uh for officers to be

[51:15] able to get past the cells when they're full safely, they have to turn sideways

[51:20] and squeeze through that narrow uh opening. Um, also another issue that as

[51:26] you probably all know, the police station, which is leased from the town,

[51:31] was once an elementary school and it has huge windows. Uh, and through the

[51:36] windows, anybody in the public, if the windows are not if the shapes are not

[51:40] drawn, can see everything that's going on uh in the police station. So

[51:44] improving the privacy of the windows even something as simple as glass lock

[51:49] um would be uh a big step forward. >> Uh the secure record holding uh rule

[51:57] applies to police records which are currently stored in shipping containers.

[52:02] So that's uh a thing that we consider to be a legally required uh upgrade. Uh the

[52:10] police station has a severe lack of space. They have um

[52:16] things stored in places where like like in the roof of the garage where really

[52:21] it'd be better not to have things stored. They have child-siz bathrooms

[52:26] because it was an elementary school, right? Uh child size means both both low

[52:32] and small. Okay. Uh the ceiling in the garage is not high enough to lift the

[52:39] car high high enough for a mechanic to go fully underneath. So there's an

[52:43] injury risk uh when somebody is working on a car. Uh there's no designated space

[52:49] for securing evidence. Um if the police station was able to raise

[52:55] the lift higher, they would be able to do more of the maintenance work on

[52:59] patrol cars. Right now they have to send it out for maintenance. the cars out for

[53:03] maintenance and anything that's serious in the undercarriage. Um,

[53:08] there's not very much space in the parking lot for the officers cars, the

[53:13] patrol cars, and the undercover cars plus uh visitors.

[53:19] Um, so here is the police station name. Uh,

[53:23] so again, there's the list uh of things that uh larger space from pounded

[53:29] vehicles. There's a little more detail in here. same color scheme. The thing

[53:33] that I took away from this when we did the study is the police station has way

[53:37] more issues, right, of the two buildings, it's it it's just clear in

[53:43] almost every dimension that it has um more needs. Um

[53:52] okay, so we were tasked with coming up with some ideas, but not a complete set

[53:57] of options. These are just ideas. And so uh we put together five. Uh the first

[54:05] one is to do the minimum uh just fix the urgent problems with ADA compliance in

[54:12] both buildings. Option B is to shoot for the moon, do a

[54:16] full rebuild, bring both facilities into one integrated building with town hall,

[54:21] police, and the court all in one building. And then we had uh three

[54:26] options uh that differed from that. Uh, option C is rebuild the police station

[54:33] and to renovate town hall but keep the building. Option D is to purchase a new

[54:40] building for the police station and renovate town hall. And option E is to

[54:45] purchase a new building for the police station and do the minimum renovations

[54:49] on town hall. So it's essentially D for the police and A for town hall.

[54:56] Uh so these will be hard to read at a distance but in the presentation that's

[55:01] online there are space diagrams. These aren't for plans but they're diagrams of

[55:07] how much space is available in each of the buildings uh now and how much there

[55:12] would be under each of the plans. And so uh this is option A which is do the

[55:17] minimum and the buildings here and the approximate uh square footage devoted to

[55:23] each function are are the current layout. Uh and in a minute I'll show you

[55:30] exactly what's addressed in option A. But option A is to do the minimum. uh it

[55:36] would provide immediate compliance and safety fixes and it would avoid it's

[55:40] it's it would avoid having to issue new debt. It's not it's not cheap, but it's

[55:47] um it's an inexpensive road, but there would be a bunch of remaining uh

[55:53] challenges. The police would be in an undersized building. The lease on the

[55:57] police station would continue. The police and the court remain separate,

[56:01] which is not ideal uh in different buildings.

[56:05] uh each of the buildings has many persistent problems and a thing that's

[56:08] really important is that this kicks the can down the road.

[56:13] Option A doesn't fix a lot of problems which will ultimately need to be fixed,

[56:19] right? It just means we don't do it now. We have to keep maintaining the

[56:23] buildings uh along the way and eventually uh rebuild them.

[56:28] Option D is a full rebuild. It solves all of the problems on the list. It's

[56:33] one modern building. It ends the police station lease. The police facility is

[56:39] properly sized according to international standards. Police and the

[56:43] court are coll-located which is an improvement in security.

[56:47] Town hall can be sold and put back on the tax role. Um but it's expensive. It

[56:54] has the largest upfront cost. It would need a large site about seven acres we

[56:58] think and obviously would require bond. Um,

[57:04] option C, uh, is to just build a building for the police. Uh, so that's

[57:09] this new police building over here on the left and renovate town hall. Uh, so

[57:15] this would um fix all problems that the police that we have and it would uh fix

[57:22] the problems in town hall. It would also free up the court space in town hall for

[57:28] other purposes. Um the downside is it requires two

[57:32] buildings to maintain rather than one which is the case in option B

[57:38] and it's important to remember that ren a full renovation of town hall has some

[57:42] risks associated with it like it could be that there's asbestous discovered in

[57:46] the building and asbestous remediation could be very expensive. Um

[57:53] okay option D [clears throat] would be to purchase an existing building. uh and

[57:59] renovate town hall. Uh so that has many of the advantages uh of the option C

[58:07] except that the building doesn't have to be built from scratch. It does have to

[58:11] be converted and the conversion cost is a big wild card there. Um, we picked a

[58:18] uh just a rough size building looking at at uh commercial buildings uh around

[58:24] Bameas of 25,000 square ft which is a little undersized for the police uh

[58:29] station but it's much better than what they have now. Um and there would still

[58:34] be retrofit risks at town hall. Option E uh is to uh do option D for the

[58:44] police building uh buy a building and convert it to a new police station and

[58:49] then do the minimum renovations here. Um and uh

[58:58] uh I'll show you the cost in a second. Um

[59:03] that has uh the lowest lifetime cost. Um but it leaves a lot of things uh

[59:11] unresolved because it makes only the minimum changes here.

[59:16] Okay. So so they go back to the menus. This is going to be impossible to read

[59:21] here but remember it's in all the stuff that's available on the web. Uh and also

[59:28] you know both where I live and where I work so [laughter] you can ask me

[59:33] questions. Okay. Uh so this is an extended version

[59:38] of the mat of the menu and it just shows like under A B C D and E which things

[59:44] are resolved uh by those options and those are not only which things are

[59:49] resolved but they're which things we tried to factor into the costbenefit

[59:53] analysis. Uh here's how the different options uh

[1:00:00] address issues at the police station. Uh you can see that A is the minimum, B is

[1:00:05] all of the options for all of the issues.

[1:00:10] Um okay, I'm going to show you the cost now in just a second, but there are a

[1:00:14] couple of key things that are important to know about the cost. Um and the first

[1:00:20] is that the do minimum options on uh town hall or town hall in the police

[1:00:26] station when we scored those we took into account that eventually an upgrade

[1:00:33] will need to happen and we put that in at 30 years. So do minimum does not

[1:00:38] avoid having to do the major overhauls. It just postpones it. And so for for

[1:00:45] option A which was the initial uh do minimum uh what we factored in is a

[1:00:50] comprehensive build of the police station and town hall in year 30 and we

[1:00:56] use the cost of option B uh for that in year 30. For option E where the police

[1:01:03] get a new building up front. We factored in a full renovation of town hall uh in

[1:01:08] year 30 uh and used the cost from the EIP study that was done uh couple years

[1:01:14] ago. No additional work needed on the police station.

[1:01:19] Okay, so this is how things stacked up and uh this is uh probably a little hard

[1:01:25] to read on the screen, but the options are listed in the same order that I just

[1:01:30] went through them. So A is do minimum. The left bars that are kind of in a

[1:01:35] muddy orange color are uh the upfront cost of that option, what you'd have to

[1:01:41] pay to carry them out uh immediately. The blue bars are the lifetime present

[1:01:48] value cost. So it's it's today's cost factoring in what you do today, but also

[1:01:53] all the maintenance that you'd have to do over time and the eventual rebuild.

[1:01:57] So, so doing uh option A we think would cost about a million dollars now, but

[1:02:05] it's life cycle cost equivalent today is $24 million, right? Because a lot of

[1:02:12] this deferred um maintenance would eventually have to be done.

[1:02:17] The full bill rebuild is obviously much more expensive uh right up front, $47

[1:02:24] million and then in count counting all life cycle cost 51.

[1:02:29] Uh the split uh version uh uh which is a full rebuild of the police

[1:02:37] station and a full renovation of town hall uh comes in um slightly cheaper uh

[1:02:44] but not a lot. uh D and E come in much cheaper than

[1:02:49] either of those. So purchasing a new building for the police department

[1:02:54] uh comes in with an upfront cost of $20 million $21 million and its life cycle

[1:03:00] cost is only slightly higher than that. >> Can I ask you a question?

[1:03:04] » Yeah. >> The 21 million indeed is that a new an

[1:03:08] existing building that has to be retrofit for the police department?

[1:03:11] » Yes. >> Okay. So that's purchase and upgrades.

[1:03:15] » It's purchase and and in our case of what the upgrade cost would be, which I

[1:03:20] think is like $6 million in the spreadsheet.

[1:03:24] » Yeah. >> One of the things that [clears throat]

[1:03:25] we we just to emphasize that we don't want to put our thumbs on the scale here

[1:03:31] even though I live here, right? >> That the we we provide this a detailed

[1:03:36] spreadsheet. It has many pages and you can change clearly labeled assumptions

[1:03:41] that you can change. Right? So if you think, well, what happens if the

[1:03:44] retrofit cost for an existing building is $7 million? You can just change the

[1:03:49] six to seven and see how it works, right? But what if it's only five? Um,

[1:03:55] and then this thing out here at the end where uh you purchase a new building

[1:04:01] for the police and retrofit it uh and then defer all of the things that are

[1:04:07] not absolutely necessary for town hall. That comes in with um a low upfront

[1:04:13] cost, a higher life cycle cost because of things just getting deferred. Um,

[1:04:20] okay. Then we land on this diagram, which is either awesome or awful

[1:04:26] depending on your taste in diagrams. Okay. And it's probably on the awful

[1:04:31] side because it's not very big uh for you. But on the horizontal axis is

[1:04:36] upfront cost. Uh so here is uh option A. It has a very low upfront cost. Here is

[1:04:43] E. Here is D. Here are B and C. on the vertical axis is the life cycle cost is

[1:04:51] the present value in today's dollars uh taking into account the eventual cost

[1:04:56] that will need to be paid. Um in the dream world you'd be close to the origin

[1:05:02] in both right you'd have low upfront cost and low life cycle cost. Okay the

[1:05:09] size of the circle shows how many of the issues are

[1:05:13] addressed right so so A is pretty low cost it doesn't address very many

[1:05:19] issues. Okay. Uh B the full rebuild solves all the problems. It's also the

[1:05:26] most expensive on both measures. Um the one

[1:05:33] so so our thumbs are not on the scale, but the thing that stood out to us is D.

[1:05:39] D addresses almost everything, right? That's uh buying and renovating uh a

[1:05:46] building for the police and then renovating town hall.

[1:05:51] Um, it does not have by any means the lowest upfront cost, but it does have

[1:05:56] among the lowest life cycle cost because it avoids the kicking the can down the

[1:06:01] road problem. Okay. Um, what I mean by kicking the can down the road, just to

[1:06:06] be super clear about this, is I have my my so my car suffers from rust and salt,

[1:06:18] right? And I keep getting hammered by I I I need a new catalytic converter like

[1:06:24] some some of you have had this experience, right? I need a new this and

[1:06:29] that and the other thing. Uh and so the question is do I hang out of the car and

[1:06:34] keep paying all that stuff and then eventually buy a new car? At what point

[1:06:39] do I buy a new car? And so the um the the life cycle cost is important because

[1:06:48] you know there's a bunch of stuff that is eventually going to have to be fixed.

[1:06:53] So our key takeaways there are 32 issues of varying urgency. The police station

[1:06:59] has the largest number of needs. Um we have five options but um there can be

[1:07:06] many many more. You can mix and match things from the menu. um the low upfront

[1:07:12] cost. You should remember that there will be higher lifetime cost down the

[1:07:17] road and then we put everything on the web.

[1:07:21] So uh thank you for listening and are there any questions I can answer?

[1:07:27] » So are we is it open meeting to the public or there questions for the board?

[1:07:32] » Questions first.

[1:07:36] We um I know that a couple of us were at the

[1:07:41] presentation last week, so we did get quite a few of

[1:07:45] our questions answered already. >> Um

[1:07:49] and but for those of you that weren't there,

[1:07:54] we we already asked we asked many questions, but so not that we don't have

[1:07:58] questions that they were already. [clears throat]

[1:08:07] I would set a time on that maybe for the benefit

[1:08:14] as that you guys asked the presentation helpful and help me to remember what I

[1:08:19] asked. I just I had a couple clarifying questions. Um I think I asked if

[1:08:26] tax says value included commercial buildings

[1:08:29] » which is yes >> it did was my guess. Sure.

[1:08:34] » Um, and I asked a question. I thought it was interesting that the tax assess

[1:08:39] value and then the resources that we have for our facilities were so

[1:08:46] different from each other compared to the other communities.

[1:08:50] » Could you identify actual properties that were 25 to 31,000 square feet that

[1:08:55] were for sale currently in the Dallas? >> We did not. We we we looked at a sort of

[1:09:00] quick inventory of buildings, but um didn't do that,

[1:09:06] » but they weren't necessarily >> right.

[1:09:10] » Yeah. >> Right. That wasn't their role in the

[1:09:13] time frame. >> Yeah. disappointed.

[1:09:16] » I think we actually said we didn't include that on purpose because we

[1:09:20] didn't want to but that's where the study group and toward the end of our

[1:09:26] process. We we could pick up with that if we chose to.

[1:09:30] » Just one additional question. You heard you you also included your heard cost

[1:09:35] analysis estimated tax increases from household.

[1:09:38] » Yes. And option A when we do the absolute bare minimum says Z tax

[1:09:43] increases for everyone although eventually I assume that would actually

[1:09:48] change because there' be a $23 million hit over the long term. So I'm curious

[1:09:53] how you got these estimates because it doesn't seem to drive where eventually a

[1:09:58] bill will come due to nothing. And then on the option D and E, on D, for

[1:10:05] instance, there's an $86 a year tax increase for every median household. I'm

[1:10:09] curious where you got that number and how long that $86 increase happens. Is

[1:10:14] that over 30 years? Does it eventually go away?

[1:10:16] » Yeah. >> Or does that $86 cover the upfront cost

[1:10:20] over the course of two years? Yeah. So, so the um so those numbers are all all

[1:10:25] as as it sounds I inferred they're all based on um paying for the upfront cost

[1:10:33] uh over um I think 30 years. I I have to look at the spreadsheet. Uh and the

[1:10:39] reason that a comes in with zero is because we assumed that that it wouldn't

[1:10:46] require a bond issue to pay for that. That they wouldn't actually it was it's

[1:10:51] a million dollars and that that could be covered some other way. All the other

[1:10:55] ones is basically >> other four options.

[1:11:00] » Yeah. Yeah. There's borrowing for the other four options and you look at what

[1:11:03] the um what the tax burden would be for household.

[1:11:14] » Yeah. I just had a quick question. I noticed in the you guys discussed the

[1:11:18] storage issue for the records of both the town hall and police station. This

[1:11:21] might be a question the court as well. Um, is it an option for that um to be

[1:11:26] outsourced entirely to a private entity so that wouldn't have to be included in

[1:11:30] the >> be outsourced

[1:11:33] » and the record storage like it looked like there was a lot of like long-term

[1:11:36] record storage and there are private companies contract with just

[1:11:40] » I think you have a payment in perpetuity like with a police station they leasing

[1:11:44] from the village and I don't think we would favor that.

[1:11:47] » Yeah, I'm I'm just curious that as an option that was examined because I know

[1:11:50] that there are towns that do that. They don't haveite. They don't have that

[1:11:53] offside. >> It can also be superior for security

[1:11:56] purposes such as like a fire, >> right?

[1:12:00] » We we did not understand that. The other thing that maybe people on the board

[1:12:05] know, but that I was curious about is what if you digitize the records, do you

[1:12:11] escape from this problem?

[1:12:15] » We've had a large undertaking as far as digitizing everything. Um they're almost

[1:12:22] complete with that whole process, but there's still a little that must

[1:12:30] » and some things like our police records can't be digitized,

[1:12:34] » right? The police records are obvious a little different than the town. I was

[1:12:37] just curious as an option. >> We are digitizing a lot of record.

[1:12:51] Did anybody else

[1:12:56] » a question on financing? Uh are there any available uh state or federal uh

[1:13:03] grants sourcing for this type of work particularly as far as the police

[1:13:08] station or or the uh outfitting of the police station. something to reduce the

[1:13:16] need to bond the whole. >> That is an excellent question. Uh the

[1:13:23] the team talked with people in the town who have been writing grants on

[1:13:28] different things, but we did not do a comprehensive search to see if there

[1:13:32] were uh grant agencies that we could use to cover some of that. That's a good

[1:13:37] question. Not answered by us.

[1:13:43] that wasn't part of their project that can still

[1:13:46] » identify that right. I >> mean the assumption is that would all be

[1:13:50] explored. >> Yeah.

[1:13:52] » Yeah. We we just to be super clear we did not find that there aren't we didn't

[1:13:57] look >> right.

[1:14:00] » So first let me introduce myself. I'm a former colleague of yours from you albe

[1:14:05] it in a lesser program. Oh, I don't know about that. But uh the program I was in

[1:14:13] is one that is focused on communication and I'm channeling a little bit of what

[1:14:20] Pat was asking in the open forum and that is it seems that your framing of

[1:14:28] the questions and the issues itself is

[1:14:35] influencing what we want us to perceive as the choices.

[1:14:40] And let me give you an example. For example, you said the first option is do

[1:14:45] minimum as opposed to saying something like address the immediate problems. And

[1:14:50] and the reason that's important is because the way you ask the question

[1:14:55] influences the way you answer it. >> You know who Franks is, the Republican

[1:15:00] focus group guru. You know, he got us to understand that the estate tax became

[1:15:06] the death tax. And there's a big difference in how we understand that

[1:15:10] kind of text. So my concern is partially the way the framing occurs in the asking

[1:15:17] of questions. >> That's a very valid point. I I um I

[1:15:22] think you're absolutely right that that should have been named differently. Uh

[1:15:27] because the intent was >> the intent was address the stuff that

[1:15:33] seems to be legally required. Uh, and it does sound pjorative to say do the

[1:15:38] minimum. That that was a mistake on our part in how we phrased it.

[1:15:43] » By the way, I do applaud the work. I I have a question, but I'm part of the

[1:15:48] study group, so I can post. >> No, you can. Well,

[1:15:53] » two quick questions. Um, the data around the needs of the police department. Is

[1:15:57] that around using the current recommendations for the size of police

[1:16:01] based on staff or how does that come to? Was it having to do with the actual

[1:16:05] functionality of the police guard house or is it more of just here's general

[1:16:09] guidelines that >> for the size for the for the sort of

[1:16:14] desirable size of the police department that came from uh an a recommendation

[1:16:20] from an international organization on on how many square feet there should be per

[1:16:25] employee uh in a typical police station. So that's where that came from. So think

[1:16:30] of it as a as a rough guideline. uh but not a hard number.

[1:16:35] » Then my my second question is is cost versus issue solved. The percent solved

[1:16:40] is just percent of the checklist but when I'm looking at the thing the you

[1:16:44] know 10% solved >> is all the critical items have been

[1:16:48] solved. So so this I found this very confusing because it's not qualitative.

[1:16:53] It's more of just >> x% versus and it's x% now versus x% over

[1:16:58] the 30 years running 30 years. So I found this very confusing but they

[1:17:04] didn't highlight that actually critical issues will be all solved under these

[1:17:08] issues. It's it's what we do now to understand what we need to do over the

[1:17:12] world instead of years. So it's >> that's an excellent point that they're

[1:17:16] not in in my field I'm an environmental economist and in my field I would say

[1:17:21] that we failed to weight the problems by their severity.

[1:17:27] » Right. And so we we could use a different

[1:17:30] » uh icon. No. Yeah, the spreadsheets and everything. I'm looking forward to all

[1:17:35] the data use. It's called out there right. I just

[1:17:38] » Yeah, >> by this like it looks like based on the

[1:17:41] answer there's not

[1:17:52] » anybody. uh you know I'm curious when we talk

[1:17:56] about those issues that are vigorally required mandated to face uh what's the

[1:18:00] kind of consequence for kicking the can on that it's a two-part question that's

[1:18:05] the first part of the question second part is um when you do your analysis on

[1:18:09] what these costs are going to look like in 30 years if there is a cost

[1:18:12] associated with that whether it's opportunity or whether it's actually you

[1:18:16] know we're getting hit by actual fines is that included in that analysis

[1:18:20] » yeah so um So there's there's two ways to think

[1:18:24] about what the costs are of not addressing those. So one of them is that

[1:18:28] there's a risk of a lawsuit and we have some numbers in the spreadsheet that

[1:18:34] include an estimate of the risk of a lawsuit for not addressing some of these

[1:18:40] things. The more important thing I think this is just me not the team is that

[1:18:46] some of these things that are not addressed are becoming increasingly

[1:18:49] important to a community that's aging. uh like the accessibility needs, right?

[1:18:55] There may not ever be a lawsuit, but there'll be people who can't come to

[1:18:58] town hall because they have mobility issues. Um and you know, we can I I

[1:19:06] won't go through the litany of like my neighbor this and my neighbor that, but

[1:19:09] that that would be my concern is is that it would be

[1:19:14] the record storage thing. I think I think the record storage thing I'm not

[1:19:19] quite sure what the consequences are, but that is a state law and the ADA

[1:19:24] thing is it's mostly that you run a risk of a lawsuit or you

[1:19:30] just don't serve everybody in the community. So,

[1:19:37] » and

[1:19:40] um real quick, so in in the when you were doing the comparison, I didn't see

[1:19:44] clay listed here. >> Yeah, they didn't choose every time. So

[1:19:49] many do it and closest to us. Clay is bigger.

[1:19:54] » Okay. So, this was a a size comparison. >> Yes. So, so we didn't do like

[1:20:02] these are the ones that are like our

[1:20:07] and then I saw here so 30 years seems

[1:20:14] » obvious

[1:20:18] but I'm more used to forecast flow now no greater than 10 years is is there a

[1:20:24] specific reason you chose 30 years. >> We

[1:20:30] need a new roof in 30 years. >> You need a new roof.

[1:20:33] » Yeah. I mean, it's partly based on how long this building has been in

[1:20:36] operation. And the team did factor in new roofs and boilers and things like

[1:20:41] that along the way. And actually, I I I forgot I didn't answer one of your

[1:20:45] questions about So, what we assume in the the spreadsheet at the moment

[1:20:50] assumes no relative cost inflation in the cost of addressing this. So

[1:20:56] essentially what we did is we treated all of the future costs as though they

[1:21:01] were in 2026. If you think the construction costs are

[1:21:05] going to go up relative to other things, you can put that into the spreadsheet

[1:21:10] and take that into account. But um >> and then you have one.

[1:21:14] » Yeah, sorry. I was going to say one other thing. The the other reason that

[1:21:19] we put it 30 years out is that if we put if we put the full retrofit closer in,

[1:21:26] right, it it it makes the the cost of even option A, which is the minimal

[1:21:35] compliant, sorry, address the immediate needs. It it starts making that look

[1:21:42] almost as big as a full retrofit, which um

[1:21:49] which we felt would look like we were putting our thumb on the scale in a way

[1:21:55] that we didn't want to. We wanted to be optimistic about how long the uh

[1:22:01] renovation could be delayed.

[1:22:06] » Okay. And then in the spreadsheet I haven't taken a look at but you have

[1:22:10] 30-year net present value cost after benefits. Do you have the quantitative

[1:22:16] data on the benefits? Yeah, there there are estimates in the spreadsheet uh of

[1:22:23] of a range of benefits which is reduction in lawsuit risk, improvement

[1:22:27] in uh productivity of people who have more space uh to work uh a bunch of

[1:22:35] those benefits or in the spreadsheet. >> Get that spreadsheet.

[1:22:39] » Yeah, it's online. Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. Thanks everybody. Thank you for

[1:22:43] participating. Thank you very much.

[1:22:52] Please extend our appreciation as well.

[1:22:58] » Yeah, >> I told them he should they should get

[1:23:02] ace. [laughter]

[1:23:07] » Okay. Well, let's move on to some of our regular business now. So, I guess I

[1:23:12] would. So, it's time to head our summer staff

[1:23:17] to the recreation department's programs, the playground, and the swim and all the

[1:23:21] other things that they do. So, with that, I'd like to make a motion to

[1:23:26] approve the 2026 recreation staff as presented.

[1:23:31] I love you any

[1:23:39] direction. So, we have, as I believe people know, the town contracts for the

[1:23:46] trash vendor to take care of our trash brush and that the members of the

[1:23:51] community groups choose to participate with that um pay a fee that always is

[1:23:56] cut their annual tax bill, but it is not a tax. It is a fee to cash. Um, and so

[1:24:03] there is a agreement we have. it's expiring again this year and we have to

[1:24:08] put it out bid again for another period of time to get that vendor or a

[1:24:13] different vendor to come forward. So we have um built a

[1:24:19] um bidding process in compliance with procurement rules and that would we want

[1:24:26] to [clears throat] um put that out now the bids would be

[1:24:29] due in August we would then evaluate them be able to put them in the budget

[1:24:34] for 2027. So that is the cycle that's

[1:24:42] » only our green right >> for only our green waist

[1:24:47] » yeah just brush >> our trash okay so

[1:24:54] » this is regular people's trash >> when the last time we did this

[1:24:59] » five years >> five years ago and how many people

[1:25:01] return >> last year last time

[1:25:04] » last just one.

[1:25:07] » And we all see that problem in there. >> Yeah.

[1:25:10] » And so are we going to instruct anybody to reach out to companies and advise

[1:25:15] them that we have? >> Yeah. So we have to but

[1:25:23] the documents are publicly available to anybody who access

[1:25:31] authoriz to publish the bid information for

[1:25:35] collection and disposal of brush and collection and disposal of refues

[1:25:39] rubbish garbage and recyclables and publish the bid openings for August 5th

[1:25:43] at 10 a.m. All in favor

[1:25:53] um I can also speak out of parking signs and I want to clarify that it's actually

[1:25:58] a little bit expanding from that. So for any of you who have driven by sweet road

[1:26:03] on a nice day the three halls woods has become very popular and there have been

[1:26:08] some problems with the days of and um traffic safety and damage. So, um, we

[1:26:14] have talked to Sweet Road is county road. I spoke to Dave N this afternoon

[1:26:20] and, um, he had previously talked with the highway superintendent county for

[1:26:27] permission to put road parking this side. So, people will be allowed on the

[1:26:32] street on one side, but not on the other side so that the traffic is clearer and

[1:26:37] there's a better access to the driveway. And the neighbors requested signs and I

[1:26:43] would have highway guidance if it's 200 feet or 500 feet, you know, saying

[1:26:47] entrance sooner coming off of this way or

[1:26:50] something on both ways so that people would know there's way they might be

[1:26:54] exiting traffic. So um and we previously lowered speed

[1:26:59] there 45 trying to enhance the safety of that

[1:27:03] side. So Mr. app was fine with both the park sign and the no parking sign and

[1:27:09] our highway department will have felt such signs um and then our police

[1:27:14] department will enforce no parking um once we have those signs there. So that

[1:27:19] is our guideline for that. Um and I would like to so I'd like to modify the

[1:27:24] motion to say no parts are this side and um it's really not part

[1:27:32] or something like that on both sides. So people could

[1:27:41] preserve preserve ahead.

[1:27:56] So, I'll make a motion to authorize the town's highway department to install the

[1:28:01] no parking this side signs and preserve ahead on Sweet Road by Three Falls.

[1:28:12] All

[1:28:15] » very sign up. We'll give a few tickets and

[1:28:29] This is the employee assistance program for all time employees. It's like a

[1:28:34] one-year renewal for 71 to 63027.

[1:28:42] Your costs are

[1:28:49] $50 per employee based on 119 employees at this point and we do if we have

[1:28:56] turnoverly they get removed new employees they get

[1:29:00] added um emails go out there's plenty of trainings for employees um is a

[1:29:06] confidential um program and the only thing that they

[1:29:10] tell us is how many uh employees use the uh service we do not know what types of

[1:29:17] service and it is also available to uh members of the employees household.

[1:29:23] [clears throat] >> Dan, how does that compare to last

[1:29:27] year's per employee fee? >> Good question.

[1:29:33] » I looked that up, but I have it right in front of me.

[1:29:37] » Decrease. >> Yeah, it actually is. Yes, because I I

[1:29:41] had a phone consult with our representative and it was a decrease

[1:29:45] because we have more wings on >> Yeah. Thanks.

[1:29:52] » How many employees you saying you said? >> Um I don't have the figures right now. I

[1:29:57] They'll run um totals for us. I can forward that information to the board.

[1:30:03] » Is that a monthly reporting or >> whatever? I can go quarterly because I

[1:30:07] do supply it to the police department for clea accreditation. So get theirs

[1:30:12] quarterly. They can get them however you'd like.

[1:30:17] » Yeah, I did see that they raised the trauma response

[1:30:21] if they wanted to come for a second time. Was there any money that we use it

[1:30:25] for? that more just

[1:30:41] motion to authorize supervisor to signal contract subject to legal review.

[1:30:54] Thank you.

[1:30:58] I did want to let people know that the New York FPCA asked

[1:31:04] to write a letter of support for some funding that they receive. Um we had we

[1:31:12] have had there has been in the public realm a lot of concern by the FPCA. Uh I

[1:31:17] want to clarify we do have a contract with the FPC. So they are available to

[1:31:21] help us should there be an animal cruelty case in town. This year we have

[1:31:27] contract with them currently. Um but we are thinking that we would need to learn

[1:31:32] more before we send letter support. So that was the discussions here is that

[1:31:38] we're not we're not sure what their current state I know they haven't been

[1:31:41] but we're just not sure what their current status is to be able to um

[1:31:47] support their expansion in some way when we're not sure if they fixed their

[1:31:51] problem. So, um, I wanted people to know that they are planning some improvements

[1:31:56] and we may support that, but we're not going to support it today because we

[1:32:01] have >> maybe we can ask them to come to a board

[1:32:04] meeting through presation update on their

[1:32:08] to the board, >> right?

[1:32:11] » Help us with our consideration. Want to also understand

[1:32:16] for the residents to understand what they get for the contract that they do.

[1:32:30] » All right, that's a good idea. So, are people okay with

[1:32:42] » and now that they have been and I'll figure it out.

[1:32:47] » Okay, good. >> Um, the next one I guess I need to talk

[1:32:51] about this the super um

[1:32:58] Yeah, sorry. just reading the little piece.

[1:33:07] » Um so we had our open house last night for the uh corridor study and it was to

[1:33:15] present the draft plan from um our consultants and it I think based on what

[1:33:22] I saw was very well received. We had a great turnout last night. I have got

[1:33:26] tons of great photos and we discussed safety

[1:33:33] uh walkability and transportation. I know it was a third topic

[1:33:38] and so the I was just trying

[1:33:43] but the it was I thought it went really well. Um, when will the final draft of

[1:33:49] the final I think yeah so we had several members of the committee

[1:33:56] that joined us last night. Um, it's all available on our website to

[1:34:03] review plan.

[1:34:07] So this is with the Empire Statement and they have formed.

[1:34:25] » I'd like to make a motion to authorize the supervisor to sign the ESD incentive

[1:34:29] proposal development for the Jon strategic plan and finally order.

[1:34:35] » Correct.

[1:34:44] Okay.

[1:34:47] Motion to approve the budget.

[1:35:01] » Motion to approve the project transfers as presented by the town.

[1:35:07] All

[1:35:11] right. Anything else?

[1:35:26] I didn't see you doing much

[1:35:38] meeting. So the pickle ball courts in the village of M is now open and

[1:35:44] available for use. We going there's going to be a grand opening in ribbon

[1:35:48] cutting on July 4th at 8:45 a.m. and then it'll be followed up with a

[1:35:53] football tournament starting at 9. There's you have sign up for please go

[1:35:57] to the village assistant recreation Facebook page for more details on that

[1:36:01] process please but we're very excited that those are now available

[1:36:05] please come support as well

[1:36:11] police consolidation study group met today

[1:36:16] on the second I think of July and commission today and had been a long

[1:36:24] day

[1:36:31] um the study group met last week. We had our first meeting. I thought that it

[1:36:37] went a little well. I hope that they feel the same way for those of you that

[1:36:40] are were here. We um we discussed identifying the problem that the study

[1:36:50] group had already observed. kind of starting from scratch and they quickly

[1:36:56] identified that they would like two orders for both the police department as

[1:37:00] well as travel. So, we've successfully scheduled the two hours that will be

[1:37:04] spending for July 15th at 5:30 that will also include a presentation that evening

[1:37:10] and I'll be working to schedule one for tele

[1:37:16] uh so that we don't overwhelm July. But I think it's off to a good start and as

[1:37:22] promised the summary of the meeting is on the website already.

[1:37:28] Thank the July the calendar shows that there's

[1:37:33] a commission presentation and know that be rescheduled to sometime in August.

[1:37:46] » Oh yes, that's right. I got so excited about pickle ball first

[1:37:50] means of the 50th anniversary of our summer show the top that the recreation

[1:37:55] department puts on every year for 50 years now.

[1:37:59] » I know that's why I keep saying 50 is coming up this year. They are doing

[1:38:05] beautiful Carol King

[1:38:09] show is coming up. Um that will be due July 16th through July 18th.

[1:38:17] Please come and buy please buy your tickets and see the show. It's going to

[1:38:20] be very good. And I said it is their 50th anniversary of it. So just in case

[1:38:24] you didn't notice 50 it's a big deal. 50 years 1976. So

[1:38:31] » lot of talented people. >> Yes. Lot of talented people. A lot of

[1:38:34] hard work and effort goes into the production every year.

[1:38:39] Please produce your tickets.

[1:38:43] Any others?

[1:38:52] I'd like to make a motion

[1:38:58] favor,

[1:39:10] 1476

[1:39:14] goes up.

[1:39:18] You want

[1:39:26] » and trash.

[1:39:40] » So, uh, want to go in executive session real property.

[1:39:45] was substantially affect.

[1:39:59] Thank you. Thanks for coming.

[2:25:10] twoour blocks. >> Okay. wants to be

[2:25:15] by public transparency but I think we have

[2:25:22] questions.

[2:25:30] » Okay. I would do that. We used to do this.

[2:25:34] Okay. >> Um, so we're back

[2:25:39] with some great motion to motion to

[2:25:44] » favor. All right. >> Thank you very much.

[2:25:52] » Question because

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