[0:04] Please stand for the pledge.

[0:11] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the

[0:16] republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:22] justice for all. [clears throat]

[0:31] Mar County Commission meeting Tuesday, September 8th, 2026

[0:36] 12:30. We start out with public forum forum in accordance with Marian County,

[0:42] Kansas public forum policy. Pre-registration is required. Please

[0:46] limit talk topics to county commission business. Follow any times time limits

[0:52] set by the board and address your concerns in a courteous manner.

[0:56] Discussion of specific identified personnel privileged or confidential

[1:00] matters will not be allowed.

[1:07] Tom Britain real large

[1:15] did try to get a hold of me. Well, they didn't do a very good job because I

[1:19] didn't I didn't uh [clears throat] say anything. I have 35

[1:23] million reasons why I would want to talk to these people. And uh I didn't take

[1:29] any of their money, dirty money. Uh and so uh

[1:35] it's not them that's that's the I have an issue with it's the county. It's the

[1:40] it's the the uh

[1:44] it's the protest petition. It's the uh rightway

[1:48] rightway agreement. uh it's the uh authority and it's also uh uh the cuts

[1:55] that's expired. And [clears throat] so one thing uh I'd

[2:00] like to talk about too is is is this u investigator you guys are going to get

[2:05] now take careful be careful about this. Um, back a few

[2:11] years ago when when we started, they uh you hired a consultant consultant

[2:16] [clears throat] Patrick Hoffman from Great Bend and he

[2:22] uh he was going to negotiate with your

[2:25] pilot agreement. So he came here and you guys in uh and actually so

[2:31] so Pat Pstring who is the president of of

[2:35] Expedition Win, he met with this guy that you hired

[2:41] the weekend before he came here. And then so you guys listened to him and and

[2:46] uh took instead of uh he he gave his speech and his these uh recommendations

[2:52] and stuff as for this and and uh that's why you got an eighth of the property

[2:58] tax that that you guys uh uh well you don't ask them for too much because then

[3:05] they won't build this wonderful project. And the other one was the uh pro the uh

[3:10] decommissioning agreement which uh

[3:15] which is not a it's a it's not even a bond. It's it's a letter of credit with

[3:20] with this company Nordia in uh in Denmark which which was uh

[3:28] indicted for uh $3.8 8 million billion dollar the B uh for for money

[3:36] laundering. This is who you've got your your uh decommissioning agreement with.

[3:41] So when you're looking to find this investigator, I hope you get somebody

[3:45] that that's going to be fair and and and look into it um and and look into it

[3:52] well. And so, uh, I guess as far as the thing

[3:56] about paying for it, the taxpayer money, well, several years ago, I think you

[4:02] might remember that the county uh [clears throat] the the county uh

[4:10] prosecuted me for basically coming to a commissioner's meeting. Now, that was

[4:17] that was uh dismissed in court with prejudice.

[4:21] And uh I'm kind of wondering how much uh taxpayer dollars was was used to to

[4:28] uh prosecute an innocent citizen and uh were you worried about that

[4:34] taxpayer money yet? Thank you.

[4:40] » Get out of here. >> Anybody else? Anyone online?

[4:46] » I'd like to make a comment. >> Okay.

[4:49] Um, I normally would not do this, but I'd

[4:53] like to address some of the comments made by Dave Mueller before last week's

[4:57] commission meeting. A couple weeks ago, two private citizens

[5:00] comment about issues with county officials. And several members in this

[5:04] room took offense to the point that they changed the rules to limit their First

[5:08] Amendment right to redress their government through free speech. Yet, no

[5:13] such protection was given to those members of the public when Mr. Mueller

[5:16] called them out for expressing their concerns. In fact, Mr. Mueller demanded

[5:22] that we as a commission further restrict restrict the public's right of free

[5:26] speech by limiting their ability to address this board. Seems to me there's

[5:30] a double standard and that only speech that we don't agree with gets censored.

[5:35] Mr. Mueller implied a concerted attack on planning and zoning at last me last

[5:40] month's meeting. Since when do questions equal an attack? Unless those questions

[5:46] don't want to be answered, I'd like to remind this board what the state

[5:51] statutes describe as the duties of the planning and zoning commission.

[5:55] This board statutoily reviews all applications that require exceptions to

[6:00] the county planning and zoning regulations to see if those exceptions

[6:03] are in the best interest of Marian County. Not because it is a fair thing

[6:07] to do, but because it's the right thing to do. In order for that board to

[6:12] effectively protect all of Marian County as well as allowing exceptions to the

[6:17] current regulations, it is imperative that they review all aspects of the

[6:21] proposal as well as how those proposals deviate from existing regulations.

[6:27] Further, if if members of that commission are not allowed to hear all

[6:31] the facts of the case, they cannot f fulfill their legal ob obligation. I

[6:36] would contend that attempting to thwart those questions and or failure to

[6:41] disclose all the facts of the case is the actual attack on the process and the

[6:46] duty of that board in general. And all that is spelled out in KSA

[6:53] 19-2960

[6:56] um which states that their legal duty is to get all the facts

[7:06] Thank you.

[7:10] » Okay, close public forum. Move on to agenda approval. [snorts] Any additions

[7:15] or corrections or >> Yeah, I'd like to add an executive for

[7:21] contract negotiations.

[7:34] Anything else? Like to make a motion approve the

[7:39] agenda. >> I'll make a motion to approve as

[7:41] amended. >> Second.

[7:43] » Okay. Moved by Commissioner Durk, second by Commissioner Holl. Any other

[7:48] discussion? If not, all in favor? >> I

[7:53] 5. >> Five. He's there. You're there, right?

[7:56] » I'm here.

[8:00] » Okay. Administrative. >> Okay.

[8:05] First we have some change orders.

[8:31] » [clears throat]

[8:41] » I don't know. I'll just take shift.

[8:47] Those

[8:55] were in your packet that you didn't see. They'd be on the back side of that.

[9:35] » [snorts] >> Okay, we have early checks in the amount

[9:38] of $29,3910.

[9:42] Any questions

[9:48] on that? >> Approve.

[9:51] » Go ahead. >> Motion to approve.

[9:54] » Oh, I had a question. >> Oh,

[9:57] » that are we waiting on cost share funds back from the stream bank stabilization?

[10:03] » Those come as a reimbursement. So, we pay it and then um

[10:07] » we're paying it out of capital improvement so that it doesn't affect

[10:11] the run bridge budget and then we put we'll put the reimbursement in that same

[10:15] fund so it's easy to see where it >> okay

[10:18] » how it was paid and then reimbursed. We won't receive 100% [clears throat]

[10:20] reimbursement. >> Right.

[10:22] » Any other questions? Jonah, you got a motion?

[10:28] » Yes, sir. [clears throat] >> Okay. Motion made to approve the

[10:33] warrants amount of 209,30930910.

[10:38] » Seconded by Commissioner Dirks. Any other discussion? If not, all in favor?

[10:42] » I >> I

[10:46] apologize the minutes did not get into the packet. So, I will just add those to

[10:50] next week if that's okay with you guys.

[10:55] » Perfect. >> Okay. In your packet, you had my report

[10:59] from uh dated September 4th. Do does anybody have questions?

[11:06] » This eye works. Um when this was brought to us a couple

[11:11] months ago, it was the next greatest thing and [snorts]

[11:15] it was going to save us a lot of money and it seems like every couple weeks

[11:21] we're paying more money for this. We need another piece of it, it looks like,

[11:26] in order to make it work, right? Correct.

[11:28] » Um, I guess my my question is

[11:36] could this [clears throat] company identify all our needs at the at the

[11:40] outset? Department staff did believe that they

[11:44] had all of the information. Um

[11:50] just an update on that statement on the um the maps

[11:57] that I think that staff uh through some persistent effort has been able to get

[12:03] the shape files from our current vendor. Um they weren't releasing them but I

[12:08] think now they have and so that we shouldn't have to get that map layer but

[12:13] I need to confirm that. >> Okay. So

[12:16] » in the long run, uh, Commissioner Dirks, it'll still be much less expensive.

[12:20] [clears throat] >> This was just another $10,000.

[12:23] And >> Right.

[12:24] » And I just wonder what's going to be two weeks from now. What what what the next

[12:27] layer is going to be and what [snorts] >> um

[12:30] » yeah, that has been a source of frustration, but we're still well under

[12:35] the previous program's cost, but I believe that that will not be a cost

[12:40] now. that um I was just trying to kind of keep you all in the loop, but I think

[12:45] that we are going to be able to bypass that.

[12:47] » Okay, >> any other questions?

[12:51] » We appreciate you staying on top of that because you know when we when we approve

[12:55] an amount, I think most the commission thinks that's what it's going to be, but

[12:59] » right >> with technology, who knows?

[13:09] » Anything else, Tina? Um, no. I just want making sure I didn't have any other

[13:12] questions about my report. >> Okay.

[13:15] » The mid-continent restoration. >> How was that?

[13:23] » How was >> How's that going? Are they about done or

[13:26] » um They didn't see anybody working today. So,

[13:31] » they were here. They were here today um working. They're I think they're making

[13:36] good progress. They have um I don't know. I've took a few pictures of them

[13:40] like way up high on that tall chimney working. Um, so they've they've been at

[13:44] it. They've also got the entryways on the north side, the interior entryways

[13:49] where we were having moisture. Um, previously that moisture has been taken

[13:53] care of and then they were repairing the inside which was part of their contract

[13:57] that was approved last um the last time we approved something for

[14:03] them. But I haven't talked to Kevin today, so I don't know. the time frame

[14:09] of when they'll be complete, but I would expect probably by the end of next week.

[14:14] » Is there some work >> or this week excite

[14:17] where that's kind of dark up there that I don't think ever really got cleaned?

[14:23] » Um,

[14:26] so on the south side we had moisture intrusion,

[14:30] » right? And then we had some uh so Hutton came and they took care of the moisture

[14:36] intrusion because Midcontinent wasn't able to get to it right away. And so the

[14:42] what they did was they had to fill in mortar and around the window and in the

[14:49] cracks. >> Okay. And I believe that that corner,

[14:52] that indentation should be

[14:58] the way that it was when we did the north side.

[15:02] The the indentation part was included with the north. So I think that that

[15:07] will be included when we do the south face.

[15:12] » But I'd have to review that that scope of work again. It's been quite a few

[15:16] months since that was approved for the for the east side.

[15:20] » So, >> um, one one other question. Couple

[15:25] months ago after this storm, we were we were waiting on damage

[15:30] assessments from KPM. What where are we at in that process? Has they gotten

[15:34] anything back to us yet? they [laughter] they [clears throat] got an initial

[15:38] report back to us and so um we have additional scope that we're trying to

[15:44] get them to look at because we believe that the scope that they have um is

[15:54] potentially on this building with water intrusion is not sufficient. So that

[15:58] they were here um Friday to take a look at that and the jail. And then what

[16:03] we're doing now, I think I had put something on the uh report maybe last

[16:09] week, but what we're doing now is we're getting um estimates from contractors

[16:16] for the different roofing and all of that. So to see what the what the

[16:20] differences would be just like we did with the vehicles. So

[16:25] » can you provide that report to us? >> Uh sure.

[16:32] [clears throat]

[16:47] » Any other questions?

[16:53] » Okay.

[17:00] Um, in your packet was is the draft of the

[17:05] reduced full-time employee classification. Um, that would be

[17:10] potentially ready for approval if the board so chooses to do that.

[17:15] » Everyone had a chance to review that, look it over.

[17:21] It's pretty straightforward based on the information that we had prior.

[17:30] » You had a chance to review it, Jonah? >> Oh, yeah. It looks fine to me. It It

[17:36] allows a little bit of flexibility. Um, I'll make a motion to

[17:41] accept and implement HR policy for reduced time or reduce full-time

[17:47] employee.

[17:51] Okay, we have a motion on the table to accept the the new HR policy on a

[17:57] reduced time. >> I'll second that. Is there any other

[18:01] further discussion? Not all in favor.

[18:07] » I I

[18:11] » Okay. And then I had on the administrative uh on the action items

[18:15] memorandum of understanding for Doyle Creek wershed uh mitigation project and

[18:19] the corresponding resolution. Uh those um your county counselor decided that he

[18:27] would wait until he's here and present those. So we do not have that today.

[18:32] [snorts]

[18:36] So, that was all that I have on my administrative.

[18:41] » Before you all move on, can I get your signatures for the checks?

[18:46] » Jonah, can I use your stamp?

[18:51] » Yep. >> Thank you.

[18:53] » Yes.

[19:28] Anything

[19:36] else we have time to do? How much time do you

[19:41] need on your contract negotiation? >> So I guess my question on that we can

[19:45] close for employer employee negotiations.

[19:49] We can do contract negotiation with the attorney present. Um, but I don't know

[19:55] that we can just go in for contract negotiation.

[19:59] » Other than that, does it fit into one of >> We can do an open session.

[20:04] » Okay. Does it fit under employer employee negotiation, contract

[20:08] negotiation? Okay.

[20:13] » You have time to get that done before 1:00.

[20:21] » Yeah. It's it should take I mean 10 minutes with body time.

[20:27] » Okay, we'll move contract discussion.

[20:30] » We can't do that >> without the attorney present.

[20:35] [snorts] >> Well, you were talking about open

[20:38] session. I think he's just talking about moving it up in the

[20:41] » I just I'm talking about moving it up till right now since you said it didn't

[20:44] need it was didn't need to happen. I I I I mean I I personally think it should be

[20:49] open session, but um because we we've talked about it

[20:55] previously, but um I can't remember if it was open

[20:59] session or [snorts]

[21:02] » are we we're not talking about any specific

[21:07] individual involved in a contract negotiation. Correct. We're talking

[21:12] about a contract with a specific Actually, we're it's a request for

[21:16] proposals.

[21:19] » Okay. >> Okay. We'll go with it.

[21:23] » Okay. Yep. Um back in January, February, we talked

[21:28] about uh initiating a new request for proposals for our county counselor.

[21:34] Um I felt at that time that we agreed that we would proceed with that. Maybe

[21:41] I'm mistaken. [snorts]

[21:46] » Do you recall? Did we request an RFP? >> You you Yes, you did talk about it and

[21:53] um it was my understanding you were moving forward and then I believe that

[21:56] you visited with the county counselor and that was put on hold at that time.

[22:00] So, um [clears throat] I am that's where I am with it. I it was I

[22:07] was it was my understanding that talking about

[22:13] » in discussion. I remember that discussion.

[22:19] » I can't remember the specific. I I'm just concerned,

[22:24] you know,

[22:38] you know, he he provides us a letter >> stating that he's reviewed approved

[22:45] the bills and warrants

[22:51] » twice in the last year. He's provided that letter when there no were no early

[22:55] checks to to approve. And so I have to question

[23:00] whether he's actually I mean if if he actually looked at it

[23:06] and there was no bills in the in the packet, why would he send a letter?

[23:11] » Right. And I think that is a good question for him when he's here.

[23:16] » But if the board wants to discuss moving forward [clears throat] whether to move

[23:19] forward or not with an RFP, you could certainly vote on it and and I would be

[23:24] happy to do whatever the board directs.

[23:31] I would make a motion to move forward with an RFP for the county council

[23:35] position. >> Okay, there's a motion on the table to

[23:40] uh request RFP for county council. >> There a second

[23:49] hear me? Okay, Jonah. >> Yeah, I can hear you.

[23:53] » Okay.

[23:58] Did you have a second? >> We have no second.

[24:04] » I'll second it. >> Okay. Uh been moved

[24:11] and seconded

[24:14] to request uh going ahead with the RFP for county council. Is there any other

[24:21] discussion? I think I need a little background

[24:25] again. >> Uh back in was that did you say Jan

[24:31] January? January, February, >> we talked we talked with county council

[24:35] about some issues that we had and I think we both it appeared to me at the

[24:41] time we both got on the same page and uh instead we would plan to do an RFP

[24:49] to try to get bids for a new county council. At that time I think we decided

[24:54] to we didn't really drop it. put it on hold

[25:00] and since then it is not it has not backed up.

[25:05] I guess my my only thought is I I would like to have county council sitting

[25:10] here. So, you know, we can address any

[25:15] concerns we have. Maybe

[25:21] » go ahead and vote on it. Maybe go ahead and vote on it at that time.

[25:27] that wouldn't exempt him from being on again

[25:33] » unless we excluded

[25:37] » I I had no intention of that but >> I was there

[25:42] » I mean >> also also running the

[25:47] right now he's >> he's contracted for a certain dollar

[25:51] amount um you run the risk I guess nobody

[25:57] else applying our RFP. We are in a attorney shortage

[26:04] and then all we wind up doing is paying him more,

[26:09] » right? It's always that chance. >> Really?

[26:13] » And then I was going to like, you know, scope expectations.

[26:18] » Well, I think we've I think we've addressed our expectations

[26:22] several times. So, may I address Commissioner Hollow? So,

[26:29] if I draft an RFP, that will then come back to the board to review the scope

[26:35] before it's sent out >> because the the request for proposals

[26:39] would include >> discussion on the scope of

[26:42] » Yes, the scope would be included in that document. And so then the board would

[26:47] have the ability to review that document and approve it before it's sent out. And

[26:52] he would still be well he could bid if he

[26:55] se show bid but >> yeah he could he could bid on it again.

[27:01] » Well I would like to at least see you know discuss the scope and expectations.

[27:07] I'm not again I'm new to this. I'm not sure where we are.

[27:10] » I think he I think he he knows what the scope and expectations are.

[27:16] We've had several conversations.

[27:24] But >> why I'm talking

[27:25] » before we do that, I personally I'd rather him be sitting here and saying

[27:30] we're going to put out RFP

[27:37] unless unless we come to some conclusion that we are satisfied

[27:46] and that's the only reason that I would vote against it today. [clears throat]

[27:51] But we have we do have a motion and a second.

[27:56] Any more discussion?

[28:00] Mike. >> Okay. Okay. All in favor?

[28:06] » I >> I

[28:09] » All against I feels 32.

[28:16] » I think we can bring that back up. council's here.

[28:19] » When the council's here, I'd like this readress it again when the council's

[28:24] here. >> That's my consensus.

[28:29] » Okay, we're ready for one:00. >> Okay, we we're about to have flooded you

[28:34] with a whole bunch of people. >> Oh my goodness.

[28:42] [clears throat]

[28:49] That doesn't mean people have to leave. It's going to have to squeeze in a

[28:53] little bit more.

[28:56] » Come on in, folks. >> Enough chairs for everyone.

[29:00] » Yeah, stand up. >> There are seats there and here. Here.

[29:06] And if anyone is brave and wants to sit right here, it's a really comfortable

[29:09] chair. [laughter] >> A hot and easy chair. That one's wired

[29:14] electricity. [laughter]

[29:25] » Yeah.

[29:36] » Well, welcome everyone to Marian County Commission. Pleased to have you here

[29:40] today. Uh, I [snorts] think we can start out and we can introduce ourselves to

[29:44] you and you introduce yourselves to us. Uh,

[29:49] starting out Ashley. >> Ashley Herpic, the county clerk.

[29:55] » Tina Spencer, Marian County Administrator.

[29:58] » Ken Becker, county commission, first district.

[30:01] » Dan, county commissioner, fourth district.

[30:04] » Clark TS, county commissioner, third district. Mike Beny, second district

[30:09] commissioner. >> You there Jonah?

[30:11] » Jonah. >> Jonah Garing Maring County District 5.

[30:15] » Okay, >> welcome. We'll let you introduce

[30:19] yourselves. [clears throat] Starting Terry over

[30:22] there maybe. >> Terry Bieber. I'm director of families

[30:26] and communities together fact. >> I'm Mary Lou Eman. I just moved here

[30:31] from Arizona. >> Lisa Schaefer. I own LNL Cleaning

[30:35] Service and uh a couple of other businesses, the bike shop in Hillsboro

[30:39] and I'm on the leadership committee. >> Jared Ya. I live in Hillsboro and I'm on

[30:43] the committee. >> Christa Schneider, uh committee member.

[30:49] Tristan Kilp, I'm committee member as well.

[30:53] » Turk, committee member. Member >> Mark Rogers, citizen.

[30:58] » Uh Jana McClendon, citizen of Marian. Katie Spencer, EMS provider with Marian

[31:04] County EMS. >> Alicia Stuc, I'm the director of the

[31:07] Maran Historical Museum. >> Haley Deacon from Marian County Planning

[31:11] and Zoning. >> Uh Dan Schaefer from uh Marian County

[31:16] Emergency Management and Health Department.

[31:19] » Okay, we got everybody. Welcome.

[31:24] » Thanks for having us today. >> I guess I guess this is just an open

[31:27] forum, so just don't ask us something we don't know. [laughter]

[31:33] So, we're questions. >> Steve, anybody [clears throat] ready?

[31:38] » Oh, thank you. Um, assuming all of you just weren't born

[31:44] onto the commission or, you know, obviously were elected. What's something

[31:47] you would want the public to know that you thought was a lot different from

[31:51] when you were first running for office versus when you were actually on the

[31:56] commission?

[32:00] Well, I can guess I can start out. You learn to be a lot better listener

[32:06] and and you really have to because [snorts] we're all lay people. We don't

[32:11] have all the answers. And so we talk to a lot of constituents.

[32:17] A lot of them have differing opinions and you try you try to work out what's

[32:23] best for county as a whole. Jump in guys

[32:32] say you spend a lot of time going after elusive perfect answer to a problem.

[32:38] There is no such thing. No matter what you do, somebody's going

[32:42] to be upset. Somebody's going to be pleased.

[32:46] Somebody will think you're out of your mind. I mean, there's all kinds. You're

[32:50] going to ask three people and you'll get five opinions. There's just a lot of

[32:55] give and [clears throat] take and it takes a lot of time. try to take

[32:59] everything in consideration. But yeah, there is no perfect answers for anything

[33:06] that you ask people what their priority is and again depending you live in town,

[33:13] you live in a country, you live north, you live south, there's a lot of

[33:17] variance. There's just no perfect answers. You just do the best you can

[33:24] and you don't make a lot of friends very popular people

[33:33] learn to listen. Um I I' I've made a lot of friends so [laughter]

[33:41] made some enemies too but I've made a lot of friends. So,

[33:47] well, one of our hardest issues is still

[33:51] employees for the county as well as any business within our county.

[33:57] That's probably been the hardest part to successfully do anything that would help

[34:01] that much that I thought hopefully would be

[34:05] easier. I enlist a few meetings again. We had

[34:09] more unfunded mandates just in the year and a half I've been on.

[34:14] Maybe some grants or something that aren't available anymore that have

[34:18] funded some of our projects and how to fix that. If you got any suggestions,

[34:23] you're welcome to talk to me at any time.

[34:27] And I think the leadership program was good

[34:30] for me as well as anybody that I've went to a lot of the graduations whether it's

[34:35] the youth side or the adult side and everybody took some really good thoughts

[34:40] from it. Jared was one that even got on the committee

[34:45] it hopefully he's brought you some

[34:49] highlight points for you to dwell on. I guess might be the future and Anything

[34:56] [snorts]

[35:00] you guys can come up with a suggestion to make any of our departments better,

[35:04] the county better or community schools better, the fire department or any other

[35:09] small item. Some of the small things is what we can tackle and make the most

[35:14] difference is that may turn into a lot bigger thing once it

[35:18] » one will evolve into the other in time. That's about what I would have to say.

[35:23] And I think you're just new to the road bridge correctly in case

[35:27] » I am. I am brand new. >> The secretary out there and I think

[35:30] she's >> learning. I think I visited with her a

[35:34] while back and >> everybody's glad to have her out there.

[35:37] I think >> uh how much time do you guys on a weekly

[35:43] or monthly basis do you devote to this endeavor? You mean hourswise, dayswise?

[35:52] » Yeah, hours wise. >> During the You mean during during the

[35:55] course of the week? >> Yeah. During the course of the week,

[35:57] » it could for me it could vary anywhere from

[36:02] eight hours to 30 hours.

[36:06] » You know, depend it kind of depends on the issues you're dealing with and what

[36:09] kind of contacts you have to make and what kind of information you got to seek

[36:13] out. We're blessed. We've got a good county administrative. She she provides

[36:18] until she came we were doing much much more research

[36:23] » more >> I mean she's kind of taken the lead on

[36:26] that so that has been very very helpful >> just because then that way she can

[36:33] maintain the kind of contact she needs to to search out that research.

[36:40] Yeah, it's not it's uh it can be it can be as much as you want

[36:46] it to be. Really? [laughter]

[36:50] » Yeah. >> I agree with Ken on that. That Yeah, it

[36:57] it'll be what you want it to be. There's plenty

[37:01] you can occupy yourself all week if you wanted to. Sometimes it's not a matter.

[37:06] I mean, you just got to look into things. Mhm.

[37:09] » You just get a snippet here in a meeting then.

[37:11] » Sure. >> Something comes forward and then you end

[37:15] up with more questions than answers and you got to start looking. You got to

[37:18] wait and then you try contact people for opinions and stuff like that and

[37:24] sometimes you got to go around you know roads different issues. Sure.

[37:29] » Go around and actually see for yourself. >> So yeah, it's a lot more time than just

[37:35] this meeting. It all doesn't happen here. No,

[37:39] » it's usually just gives you a starting point, too.

[37:42] » Awesome. >> I'm curious. You come up here for cooler

[37:45] weather? >> Um, as a matter of fact, no.

[37:49] » Quality of life, right? [laughter] >> I'm sorry.

[37:52] » Quality of life. >> Absolutely.

[37:56] » Absolutely. I think it's kind of humorous some of the meetings that I've

[38:00] gone to and and such, you know, and and I'll be sitting by a commissioner from

[38:08] an urban area and they want to know where my office is if it's on the second

[38:13] or third floor of the Maring County Courthouse.

[38:17] It's downstairs way down [laughter] called a furniture. No. So that's kind

[38:23] of humorous to me because they all have offices.

[38:28] » Hey, welcome to Kansas. >> There's spare room in the attic, Ken.

[38:32] [laughter] >> Yeah, it's not hot up there at all. I've

[38:35] I've been there. >> Not hot. Not hot at all. [laughter]

[38:42] » But Jonah, I'd be curious about your answer to the question. What's different

[38:45] than what you thought it was going to be?

[38:50] Uh mine pretty uh I mean I I came from the city council so I kind of expected a

[38:56] little bit of the same just move the decimal point. The uh but the other part

[39:02] was a lot of times we all have a common goal

[39:07] but there is a vast difference in how we get there sometimes and that's that

[39:15] seems to be the struggle that I wasn't expecting.

[39:25] Mine would be could I put a two or three time limit on anybody that calls it

[39:30] would help my day be shorter. I've had some as long as over 50 minutes

[39:37] several [snorts] 30 to 40 minutes. And if you're busy doing something, it is

[39:43] likely hangups. That's about what you got to do once in a while.

[39:48] And I'm glad they're calling me, but it shouldn't take that long to express

[39:52] their point of view and move on. I guess that's something I really didn't expect

[39:57] either. Continue that long on a discussion on

[40:01] the phone.

[40:05] » I spend as much time as it takes >> and yeah, I was going to lead into that

[40:11] one. Uh when CO I I first two weeks of CO I

[40:17] probably clocked 80 hours um just doing this. Um

[40:23] it's it was unreal. It was it was something unprecedented. Something we

[40:28] weren't nobody really knew at the time. Uh then other times it's it's you know

[40:37] a phone call here and there and it's really not a lot. So I I mean what Kent

[40:43] said it it it kind of depends on the issues.

[40:50] » More question. >> I've taken several good thank you phone

[40:54] calls too for something that we address. So you like to see that part of it. Can

[41:00] you share with us the most difficult issue in Marian County to deal with?

[41:05] » Give me about 10. [laughter]

[41:10] » We can I don't know that you could limit it to one.

[41:14] We've [clears throat] had major issues in this county, you know, over the

[41:18] years. You know, prior to me, it was landfill and then it was, you know, then

[41:24] you had wind farms, uh, other other things that have arisen.

[41:31] Uh, COVID was big, uh, like Mike brought up.

[41:36] uh staffing staffing our departments was kind of a nightmare for a couple of

[41:42] years. You know, I would try to keep right trying to keep departments open,

[41:48] » you know, because people still needed to needed service.

[41:52] » So, you know, in the midst of where a lot of businesses shut down that you

[41:57] can't shut down government just can't. So, you know, we were

[42:03] blessed with enough technology that we could at least have a couple of people

[42:08] here and maybe a couple people online working and th those kind of things. So,

[42:14] you know, that was we we met in this room every week week

[42:20] during co.

[42:24] » Is there one particular department that's hard to staff or is that all the

[42:29] way? Well, we've had shortages in just about every department. I mean, it's

[42:34] it's not it's not critical anymore, though. We've we've kind of gotten

[42:37] caught up. We're always still looking for good the right people.

[42:42] » You know, probably Sheriff's Department is probably the

[42:47] open needs at this point as much as anybody if I'm not mistaken.

[42:51] » It's part of that having the budget to get good people in. Well, it's a big

[42:56] part of it because when COVID came along, uh

[43:02] salaries, hourly wages, everything spiked

[43:06] » working from home. >> I mean, some people were changed.

[43:10] » Yeah. >> I mean, uh there was some people that

[43:12] were doubling their wages during during CO, I'm not saying countywise wide, but

[43:18] in a variety of occupations around the country and basically doing it from

[43:23] home. And some of them to this day are doing it from home.

[43:28] So >> yeah, Jared, [laughter]

[43:31] » well, my wages didn't double. I mean, Jared's a good example. That's that's an

[43:36] occupation that can be. >> Yes.

[43:39] » You know, but during co we were kind of trying to do it where it didn't work all

[43:44] that great. >> And we're we're glad that somebody like

[43:46] Jared did stay and come back and [clears throat] stay in our area. Well,

[43:50] it's nice because like a job like that's portable, so people can move back here

[43:54] to take care of their folks or whatever. >> They don't displace anybody. Like I pump

[43:59] Arkansas money into our economy. >> I didn't displace anybody from a job.

[44:03] And in the next 10 years, I think you'll see a lot more of that

[44:06] » in communities of this size. >> You know, and that's one reason the

[44:09] high-speed internet has been so critical to get established in the county. Of

[44:14] course, we talked about Obama money years ago for Tri County took that on

[44:20] and we had highspeed internet in our real area for over 20 some almost 25

[44:25] years. We still have some areas in our county that doesn't doesn't have it.

[44:32] Somebody's vision to move forward with something that's really center school

[44:36] district wouldn't exist without it. >> Yeah. A lot of people think that's

[44:40] silly, but they don't realize what a boon it is for the small communities for

[44:44] people to be able to move back here remotely and have fiber internet.

[44:49] » It actually almost is like having another industry

[44:54] » because people can move move here and work out from home.

[44:58] » Now, whether AI is going to ruin it [laughter]

[45:01] is still a big topic. >> So, what's your biggest joy at being a

[45:05] county commissioner?

[45:10] Mine is getting mine is getting to meet people. I got one of these. [laughter]

[45:16] » You know, I've gotten I've gotten to I've gotten to know a lot of people that

[45:20] I probably wouldn't ever have known other than they look familiar.

[45:26] So, you know, that to me that's a that's been a blessing because there's some

[45:32] really good people around and you you really you know who they were, but you

[45:35] didn't know anything about them. Well, I found out I was a pretty good guy,

[45:38] really nice lady, and really cares about others.

[45:44] I think it's I think it's mostly about community to me.

[45:50] » With Mark's help, I can turn a laptop on for the first time in my [laughter]

[45:55] life. >> So, a few years ago when we were here,

[45:59] and I was a student, not on the committee, I asked the commissioners

[46:03] that were here, and three of you are new. So, I'm going to ask the question

[46:05] again. We have a society where a lot of young people believe that the decision-m

[46:11] is done by a bunch of old white men and they don't know how to come become

[46:15] involved and don't know that they are any good if they do become involved.

[46:19] What do you say to them to encourage them to be a part of the process to be a

[46:23] part of the decision-m and how do we get them in this room instead of just

[46:27] complaining outside? I think it starts at home if and

[46:33] handinhand with that it needs to be empathi emphasized through public

[46:38] schools and I think there's been a not putting

[46:43] down public schools but then there's been a failure in that in that area.

[46:48] » It's like civic responsibility. >> Right.

[46:50] » Right. >> Yeah. Who's teaching that?

[46:53] » Anybody know there's school in this county teaching civic responsibility?

[46:58] riches. >> Maybe

[47:01] » I hear I'm a substitute teacher and I hear it,

[47:05] » but how well is it being heard,

[47:10] [clears throat]

[47:13] » the young people, young people, I think getting them in

[47:18] government is critical. People my age, I got an outlook on life.

[47:24] You know, a 20 year new roof is a lifetime guarantee for me. Young people

[47:30] in their 20s and 30s just starting. They're looking 30, 40, 50 years. Where

[47:36] am I going to be? I I don't want to trash old people being

[47:41] one, but you got a limited scope here. You're just trying to get through the

[47:45] next 10, 15, 20 years or whatever. And you just look at things differently. And

[47:52] going back to the original statement, biggest choice, young people have some

[47:57] great ideas. Their problem is they got jobs. They're

[48:02] raising families. They're taking kids to ball games. I mean, they're so busy just

[48:07] trying to keep food on the table, clothes on the kids, schools. They don't

[48:12] have time for a lot of this. It's a shame because that's where the

[48:17] ideas are. It's just a there's a whole different

[48:21] perspective. And uh we've got some young people in

[48:25] zoning, moved to get some young people. We made some great strides with young

[48:30] people getting in some of these positions.

[48:34] Um my experience, my experience, I was in

[48:38] the Navy. You come to find out, you listen to the young kids,

[48:43] everybody was in, well, we've always done it this way. Young kids don't think

[48:46] like that. They got no new ideas and I mean they can just

[48:53] start a spark and then it sort of grows. Well, yeah, we can do this differently,

[48:58] whatever. But getting young people in the government,

[49:02] especially you look at the feds, we need some young blood people that

[49:06] think differently, ask questions, but they also have suggestions. They

[49:11] don't just come out grabbing a lot of them. They'll not only identify a

[49:16] problem, they'll tell you how you can fix it. If you think about it a while,

[49:21] they'll come up with some pretty good ideas. Just get involved, getting the

[49:24] conversation going. I think it's important. So on that,

[49:30] young people need to be in this. I wish there's some way we could get them more

[49:34] active. six people that see the youth leadership and you've all seen

[49:39] » some good ideas and some of them have even got on the committee you for the

[49:44] adult or for the whole program >> and have been a blessing to their

[49:49] thoughts and ideas if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, we had

[49:52] » I said something here a while back or at the last dinner was three of my

[49:56] neighbors kids have been on this and came back to be on the committee with

[50:03] that and the pride pride three of my neighbor kids are on that committee just

[50:10] how proud that and if you go back to their grandmother with 4 and all she

[50:14] gave for leadership as young in our day 50 some or 60 years ago starting in 4

[50:22] and everything she put up. Not everybody can take the dedication and the time

[50:26] that some of them had in the past, but we've still got to encourage that young

[50:30] person to take that lead. Like I said, I couldn't be any prouder of my neighbors

[50:36] kids that have flourished with this speech, the the junior leadership

[50:40] program. >> Thanks to all of you. So,

[50:44] » but the cool thing is is that it's just like the adult program. They're only

[50:48] with us for five days. You know, I mean, we have them every

[50:52] other week for 10 weeks. We have them for five days, but it makes that much of

[50:56] an impact on them, which is so >> I don't know that anybody's been through

[51:01] the program that put it down much from what I've seen. So,

[51:04] » that what >> that have put the program down.

[51:06] » Yes. >> Even one couple that's basically retired

[51:11] and >> took the leadership program this last

[51:15] time in their what >> retirement age. and I as husband and

[51:19] wife and had positive things after raising our kids being here in this

[51:25] county their entire life still took some good thoughts from the programs

[51:33] and I hope we get people to encourage and can keep it up in the future.

[51:37] Some of that you know just what you guys can instill in them is very important.

[51:43] comes up for all your efforts.

[51:48] » Do either of the other commissioners have anything on that on

[51:53] » Well, it's important. >> I just got called

[51:58] » It's important to get >> I just got called an old white guy. So I

[52:01] I'm >> Well, I was going to exclude you, but I

[52:04] figured why. [laughter]

[52:07] » Don't become friends with >> Every time she says that, I'm sitting

[52:10] right next to her. It's like, >> Lisa, what do you consider as old?

[52:14] » Well, I'm just telling you at the time I originally asked that question, and you

[52:18] guys can remember this because this was like 2022 or 23. That was the

[52:22] terminology that was being used during elections. You don't want to keep voting

[52:26] for the old white guys. It just kept getting and so that's why I said it

[52:29] then, but it seems to spur people on. So, I'm gonna keep saying [laughter]

[52:33] » we may be old black guys, but we think we think we're way younger.

[52:38] » I think Commissioner Dirks was going to say something.

[52:40] » Sorry. >> Okay. Um,

[52:44] it's not just about getting the youth involved. What I see is the public in

[52:49] general doesn't want to get involved in policy in in government. And

[52:55] if you don't get involved, you can't complain,

[52:58] » right? >> That's why I ran.

[53:02] Um because I didn't feel like

[53:08] the public's concerns were being addressed. And so I decided to make a

[53:12] difference. And it takes not just young people, but

[53:17] middle-aged white guys, young women, old women, everybody to get

[53:22] involved and and step up and speak out and

[53:30] you know, whether you elect

[53:34] men or 30 year old women,

[53:39] if you don't get involved, they're not going to do you're not going to be happy

[53:43] with what they do because they're going to they're going to fall back to their

[53:50] their preferences and their but until the public stands up, young and old

[53:56] alike and holds them accountable, you can't complain about government.

[54:04] And that's why I ran. and I try to listen to the public and and

[54:12] address the issues that that they want addressed.

[54:21] A former wife of mine said it wasn't bitching, it was boosting.

[54:26] So, anybody that wants to boost a good thought, you're welcome. come talk to

[54:31] it.

[54:35] » I think people if they if they love our country and they're patriotic,

[54:38] [clears throat] they're going to want to serve.

[54:42] That just comes along with with being patriotic and loving our nation. And we

[54:47] have a problem with that right now [clears throat] nationwide.

[54:53] So it does we need to encourage we need to encourage those that really feel like

[54:58] can step up. >> What's interesting um can was we we go

[55:04] through during the leadership portion we do a kind of a class portion or class

[55:09] section about leadership or just different things that we're learning

[55:11] about from Kansas Leadership Center is where we taking this information from

[55:15] and we do an activity called the gap. So, we talk about our concerns about our

[55:19] community and then our aspirations and then what's getting in the way. And

[55:24] after this morning, we did our concerns and our aspirations and it was very

[55:29] similar to what each of you just spoke to there and kind of going back to

[55:32] Lisa's question that she just asked which Lisa wasn't even at her this

[55:36] morning session but I've been there before. That's a very connected um thing

[55:40] that we're kind of talking about and I'm hoping that those in the class you're

[55:43] kind of hearing some of the same themes that our county commission is also

[55:47] expressing too as concerns and aspirations and then what are ways that

[55:51] we can get there? What are those aspirations um and our concerns and how

[55:56] can we build the bridge from those concerns to those aspirations? So, how

[55:59] do we get youth involved and engaged? How do we have neighborly and compassion

[56:03] and empathy back in our own county and what does that look like? And so I've

[56:07] hope this is kind of giving you a little bit of a jump start to thinking through

[56:10] what are ways that we can be engaged and involved

[56:15] » just in taking it several year a few years ago but just seeing it on the

[56:19] board get a list of reasons and what it was even just a year or two's prior

[56:26] class and well nobody's fixed it yet so >> we need to look at how to fix it if they

[56:32] couldn't fix I mean >> throw out anything that might better it

[56:35] or make it better fix it. I mean, it's still you need to think further. Think

[56:42] further outside the box. >> Don't be scared to throw any suggestion

[56:45] out there that you would look at on >> Well, the alternate is true, too,

[56:49] because we had one of our biggest problems the year that that I was in the

[56:53] course was daycare. We just did not have a space that would take on additional

[56:58] daycare. And now we have the Hillsboro daycare

[57:01] center that was basically formulated at the time we were discussing that. And I

[57:06] think that I have seen more of that happening since I've been a member on

[57:10] the committee of things that we we keep them in the forefront. So like right now

[57:15] I know there's a business proposal out there to talk about non-emergency

[57:18] medical transportation that was formulated in my head years ago, but

[57:22] until I realized other people saw it as a need, I didn't keep thinking about it.

[57:26] I didn't I just thought it was something I saw and because I was working within

[57:29] the community of elderly people and taking care of people that always seem

[57:33] to need that kind of help. >> One of our first daycare centers was at

[57:36] Florence and it has not been able to sustain itself and always not operating

[57:42] » this past [clears throat] since start school year or maybe last summer

[57:45] » two years ago. Yeah. So that's sad that somebody went to a lot of effort yet it

[57:50] failed >> and you would think from [clears throat]

[57:53] and from the location it'd be ideal. >> We don't know why it failed.

[57:58] » Yes. I a lot of it goes back to exactly some of the same concerns were being

[58:01] brought up here. >> Staffing was most

[58:03] » staffing. It's how do you get people engaged? How do you have the the passion

[58:08] or the desire to help others and to be part of that neighborly community? And

[58:12] how does that how does that work? Um, and that's what we're continuing to see

[58:15] even at a local level in each of these different communities.

[58:19] » So, it almost puts a negative that why would anybody try this again if it it's

[58:24] already failed >> because somebody out there is going to

[58:26] find that place in the gap that can can answer some of those problems. And I

[58:30] that's why we keep trying. Um, and I remember when that was opening up

[58:33] because I took a tour of the building at the time.

[58:35] » Um, and I think there's a lot the other problem is that, you know, there are

[58:38] things that you don't think about until you're in the midst of it, right? So

[58:41] insurance being what it is and going up and being impossible and and people not

[58:47] having the right kind of educa housing is a terrible problem.

[58:50] » Utilities, insurance, maintenance of the building

[58:54] » and again the biggest one was staffing of that

[58:56] » didn't work very failed. It just couldn't sustain

[59:00] [clears throat] itself. >> Yeah.

[59:03] » With a lot of good people putting a lot of effort.

[59:07] Well, what's interesting from a historical perspective being the

[59:11] director of the museum is that throughout the Marian's entire history,

[59:15] it's there have been a ton of failures. And it's only due to the perseverance

[59:20] of, you know, some really dedicated citizens who wanted to see Marian

[59:25] flourish and grow that were able to have things like the Elgen and other things

[59:30] like that. And so just cuz you fail doesn't mean that it's

[59:34] the end. But you're right, it does take, you know, dedicated citizens who are

[59:38] willing to put in the work to keep trying to make something happen.

[59:43] » I would like to speak to that gap for a moment. You talk about getting more

[59:47] people involved in government. You need staff on in your offices and just people

[59:52] getting youth involved in government and civil service and civic activities in

[59:57] their communities. um have just one minute. I know you're some of you have

[1:00:02] heard of the bridges out of poverty program. This Ruby Payne, you maybe been

[1:00:05] to a workshop with her. Um the way she looks at poverty is resources. People

[1:00:12] that are underresourced and people that are resourced and how do we move people

[1:00:17] from being underresourced into gaining resources? and her program has evolved

[1:00:22] over the years that they have communities now that are called bridges

[1:00:26] communities where they brought their training not just for the people in

[1:00:30] poverty but for the whole community starting from the commissioners the

[1:00:34] police department the health department the educators the veterinarians I mean

[1:00:38] everybody farmers citizens whatever educate them in the philosophy and in

[1:00:44] the viewpoint of bridges to look at those under look at resources and how to

[1:00:49] what is poverty It's not just money, it's lack of resources and how do we

[1:00:54] communicate? How do we inspire people that are underresourced to build

[1:00:57] resources? And it brings your whole community into talking understanding the

[1:01:02] same language, the same culture, so to speak. And places like Muscogee,

[1:01:06] Oklahoma have really been big on this for like 10, 15 years. And so they go

[1:01:10] around and give [cough and clears throat]

[1:01:11] how to bring that to your community. There's other ones around the the nation

[1:01:15] that way. And a couple years ago, I had a dream of doing this in Peabody, but I

[1:01:19] just I was too busy earning money to really get the leg work going and get

[1:01:23] Peabody more excited about it. Um, but I was thinking about it this morning,

[1:01:28] Tristan, and we were talking about that gap. And I would love to come to share

[1:01:32] more with you commissioners about this sometime.

[1:01:35] » Right now, I'm talking on the back of my head. It's not right at the front, so

[1:01:37] it's kind of not clear, but >> that's because you're an old white guy.

[1:01:41] » Yeah. >> He can't help it.

[1:01:44] » He's not completely white. [laughter] But that I give an

[1:01:47] endorsement to that book though. I think we were in the same workshop at Prair

[1:01:51] with Prairie View when they were teaching us that about that. I had never

[1:01:54] heard of that the concept bridges out of poverty.

[1:01:58] » So, and I have watched it work in little pockets of and places even here in our

[1:02:03] own county where there's bridges being built and resources being offered to

[1:02:08] people that are in a cycle of poverty because their family's always been poor

[1:02:11] and their family was always poor. It is worth I think it's really worth

[1:02:15] looking at. >> Well, even a common goal, even in a

[1:02:18] marriage, if the common goal isn't there for the couple, they will fail. That's

[1:02:23] all there is to it. And the saying I've had said, if we don't all work together,

[1:02:28] we'll all fail. And that's still true in any aspect of [clears throat]

[1:02:34] life in general to religion or whatever else. If we don't

[1:02:38] all give it our best, we'll all fail. It's a community

[1:02:45] all ornone situation at times, but it's got to be a common goal that we all

[1:02:51] agree with to a point to make it work. >> I think that's kind of a good spot to

[1:02:57] kind of wrap up on. We don't want to take all of your time today. [laughter]

[1:03:01] » Say one more thing. >> Yeah,

[1:03:04] » we're using the word community. It's being used in different aspects here,

[1:03:09] but community is the operative word. Christ is you'll see community come

[1:03:16] together. All of a sudden, working miracles, things that you don't see

[1:03:20] daytoday. You know, flood, people helping each other. And it'd be I think

[1:03:25] we'd be better off if we could expand that in our day-to-day lives. Think as a

[1:03:30] community. you get thinking in smaller groups,

[1:03:36] you know, country, city. I mean, just it breaks down all kinds of different ways.

[1:03:41] We're all in this together. And I spent a lot of time overseas when I was in the

[1:03:47] Navy and they lack community over there. I was I never really witnessed that over

[1:03:52] and I think that's the secret of this country. And then you get to the big

[1:03:56] cities where they're having all the trouble. There's not really a community

[1:04:01] there. What we have in the central, you know, rural areas.

[1:04:06] We have comm we can do better, but we do have community. I think that's why you

[1:04:10] see a we're able to deal with things better.

[1:04:14] Don't get overwhelmed so much. But community, I think, is what we should

[1:04:19] strive to be common goals, common, you know, beliefs and they just need to

[1:04:25] stick together. We think of county as a community,

[1:04:29] marrying as a community and I think you need to work that aspect

[1:04:34] of it. >> It's just all it is is just a different

[1:04:38] way of thinking. >> One thing that has encouraged me is and

[1:04:42] I've seen this over the last decade. Almost every community in Marian County

[1:04:47] now has a festival. 10 years ago there was hardly any.

[1:04:52] And now almost every community has a festival.

[1:04:56] We found that out because we use transient guest tax to help support

[1:05:00] that. So to me that's very encouraging.

[1:05:05] There's actually people saying I guess these towns are worth saving and it's

[1:05:09] going to take people to come together in order to do it.

[1:05:13] » Well, thank you all for your time. >> The leadership committee is touring

[1:05:17] county offices today. So, we have been all over and now we're headed over to

[1:05:21] the sheriff's office and dispatch and they'll wrap up with some application

[1:05:25] sessions later today. >> Best part of

[1:05:28] » Thank you all. >> Leadership for me was we got fed very

[1:05:31] well [laughter] >> the time we met.

[1:05:34] » Thank you all. >> Thank you guys. [clears throat]

[1:05:37] Thank you Jonah. >> Too long, Dan.

[1:05:40] » Ben for coffee again.

[1:05:44] » May have to do that. >> Thank you guys. Thank you neighbor. Good

[1:05:48] to see you again. >> Takes me a long time to stand.

[1:05:52] » Thanks. Rock and roll. >> Holl and I became friends over a small

[1:05:57] argument on in the newspaper 25 years ago. [laughter]

[1:06:01] » Who won? >> We did.

[1:06:03] » We did. Go. [laughter] [clears throat]

[1:06:14] » Okay. We have an executive session on personnel performance.

[1:06:21] I move session executive session in order to discuss job performance of a

[1:06:25] specific employee pursuant to KSA75-4319B

[1:06:30] under item number one for personnel matters of non-elected personnel

[1:06:35] with the board and Tina and tell how long

[1:06:40] » start with 15 minutes 20 minutes >> start with 20

[1:06:44] » 20 minutes so that would be uh until 56 with open session to resume back in the

[1:06:52] commission chambers following closed session.

[1:06:56] » Tina, I don't think I've got the link for the team's exec.

[1:07:01] » Okay. Do you want to do it on Teams or do you

[1:07:05] want to call? [clears throat] What would works best for you? I I can just send

[1:07:07] you one. >> Yeah,

[1:07:10] » that probably works best. >> I can hear I can hear everybody on

[1:07:13] Teams. >> Okay. I'll I'll try to send you

[1:07:15] something here. >> Okay.

[1:07:20] Okay, we have a motion. >> I move it.

[1:07:25] » I mean second. >> Okay. Moved and seconded by Commissioner

[1:07:28] Hall. Any other discussion? Not all in favor?

[1:07:31] » I I

[1:07:41] executive session, no decisions made. Uh we're going to go back in. I move that

[1:07:45] we recession the executive session in order to discuss job performance of a

[1:07:49] specific employee pursuant to KSA 75-439 4319B

[1:07:55] under item number one for personnel matters of non-elected personnel with

[1:07:59] the board and TINA uh until 210

[1:08:06] with open session to resume back in the commission chambers following closed

[1:08:10] session. Second.

[1:08:15] » Any other discussion? If not, all in favor?

[1:08:18] » I

[1:08:22] remember how to do it right from last time.

[1:08:26] » Okay. >> Out of executive session, no action

[1:08:30] taken. Uh, commission comments.

[1:08:36] » I have nothing. >> You pray for rain yet this week. There

[1:08:42] you go. >> Pray for rain. That's what my soybeans

[1:08:45] look like today. >> At least you got some.

[1:08:49] » But it'll dry down to nothing if >> any outside board reports.

[1:08:55] » If not, I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second.

[1:08:57] » Second. Seconded motion.

[1:09:04] » All in favor? I I vote.

[1:09:10] just got on.

[1:09:16] [laughter]

[1:09:19] » Is there a reason to pledge allegiance? >> Jonah,

[1:09:24] » there is. >> Can you hear me?

[1:09:28] » Did you vote to adjourn? >> Yes.

[1:09:32] » You're exercising. I'm exercising. How surprised

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