[0:00] Someone here, right?

[0:02] Yeah.

[0:04] Distracted.

[0:05] Yeah.

[0:11] Okay.

[0:14] Being 6:35, welcome to the Mattapoisett Select Board, September 22nd,

[0:20] 2026

[0:23] meeting.

[0:25] Please rise for our Pledge of Allegiance and a moment of silence for those who are

[0:29] serving and who have served our country.

[0:33] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic

[0:39] for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:45] justice for all.

[0:51] Thank you. Please be seated.

[0:58] I now read the open meeting law statement.

[1:01] This meeting is a virtual meeting held under the open meeting law as modified under

[1:06] current law to permit online meetings.

[1:08] This meeting is being broadcast to the public through Zoom as described in the

[1:12] posted meeting notice. Pursuant to the open meeting law, any person may make an

[1:17] audio or video recording of this public meeting and may transmit the meeting

[1:22] through any medium. Attendees are therefore advised that such

[1:28] recordings and or transmissions are being made, whether perceived or unperceived

[1:34] by those present and deemed acknowledged and consented.

[1:41] Madam

[1:42] Clerk.

[1:42] Okay, I make a motion to open the meeting warrant for the special town meeting

[1:47] being held on November 9th, 2026. Second.

[1:53] It's been a motion. It's been seconded.

[1:56] Hold on. Oh, yeah, sorry. Take that, sorry. I just wrote it wrong.

[2:02] All in favor?

[2:04] Aye. Aye.

[2:04] Aye. Passes unanimously. I'm sorry, my voice is pretty lousy tonight.

[2:10] Sorry about that, folks. But I want to just bring to everybody's attention, if you

[2:14] didn't get this in the mail, you should be looking for it.

[2:17] It's got the nine questions in it, and it's very informational.

[2:24] The article's in there.

[2:27] Yeah.

[2:28] Mm-hmm.

[2:30] And it's good to have before you get to the polls.

[2:34] Just want to just give you a heads-up.

[2:36] It's nice to know what you're looking at before you go into the ballot and you get

[2:41] confused. That's all.

[2:44] And that motion for that red booklet that she's talking about, there's a motion to

[2:48] approve the election warrant for the Massachusetts state election being held on

[2:53] November 3rd, 2026.

[2:56] It's been a motion.

[2:57] Second.

[2:58] It's been seconded.

[3:00] All in favor?

[3:01] Aye.

[3:02] Aye.

[3:02] Aye. Passes unanimously.

[3:06] Motion to approve invoice number three for the Gateway Health Group payments for

[3:10] unpaid claims in the amount of $102,946.07.

[3:17] Second.

[3:19] Motion's been seconded. In favor?

[3:22] Aye. Aye.

[3:23] Aye.

[3:25] Any discussion? Everybody's good.

[3:29] Is this the signature page for the election board?

[3:33] Yeah. Public hearing. Oh.

[3:36] What?

[3:37] Yeah, we sign that one. Yeah.

[3:40] Yeah.

[3:40] The election.

[3:41] We were sending it? Sorry, how about if we get-

[3:43] Yeah, we'll get it. Yep. We sign that one.

[3:48] Okay, public hearing.

[3:51] We have five minutes.

[3:52] Oh, we have five minutes.

[3:56] You want to skip-

[3:57] Yeah, we're going to jump around a little bit

[3:58] ... the public discussion maybe a little bit?

[4:00] Yeah.

[4:02] Mr. Severa, discuss request for a monument.

[4:08] Is Mr. Severa here or on Zoom?

[4:12] Mr. Severa? Two minutes. Okay.

[4:15] Thank you ahead of time. We got five minutes.

[4:17] Come forward. We have five minutes, so come forward and let us know what you're

[4:22] asking us about.

[4:32] I thank the board for seeing us and spending

[4:38] some time with us today.

[4:41] Oh, join him. He's in there. Oh, sorry.

[4:46] This is my wonderful wife,

[4:49] 56 years, Beverly.

[4:51] Wonderful. Nice to see you, Beverly.

[4:56] And of all the awards that I have,

[5:00] none of them would I have gotten without her same support.

[5:05] This has been the most difficult summer that I've ever had, my wife and I have ever

[5:10] had. We lost our young daughter today,

[5:14] uh,

[5:16] last week. Her name is

[5:18] Karen.

[5:20] Karen Severa. She was senior vice president of Tiffany's for 16 years, and

[5:27] she

[5:29] did everything for everybody.

[5:32] Every day, she would go to the, uh-

[5:36] Our sympathies to you

[5:37] ... bowels- Yeah, so sorry for your loss.

[5:39] Yeah.

[5:39] She would go to the bowels of, uh,

[5:44] Beverly?

[5:45] Grand Central Station.

[5:47] Grand Central Station to feed-

[5:51] The homeless

[5:51] ... the homeless. And she did that there and so many other problems.

[5:56] If you look her up, she's an incredible daughter. We lost her.

[6:02] She died

[6:04] a few weeks ago, and, uh, Bev and I, uh, contributed $100,000

[6:10] in her name to the alumni pool at Pratt, where she got her degree.

[6:14] And, uh, the outstanding students in graphic design will

[6:20] be getting an award every year in her name.

[6:24] That's wonderful.

[6:24] Very nice.

[6:25] Very nice of you. But you're here tonight for what?

[6:29] With respect to Mattapoisett,

[6:32] I've tried all my life,

[6:35] from beginning

[6:37] when I was in grammar school

[6:40] to now,

[6:42] to do everything I possibly could do for Mattapoisett,

[6:47] and it's the greatest place to grow up.

[6:51] Every single thing I did for Mattapoisett, Mattapoisett repaid me

[6:57] more than I gave it. And I'm not saying that to make it look good, I'm saying that

[7:01] because that's the truth.

[7:04] Everything. Uh, I, uh... I can go on and on on what I tried-

[7:10] And we don't have all night tonight to go on and on.

[7:13] Uh-

[7:14] But you're here to request something

[7:15] ... all these people were good to me, so good to me-

[7:18] Yeah

[7:18] ...

[7:20] uh, you know, from out of poison. I don't know this, uh, who is Jody Bower?

[7:24] Do you know?

[7:24] I see.

[7:25] Are you related to, uh,

[7:29] uh, uh, my, my friend Mickey Bower?

[7:34] Mm-hmm.

[7:34] Adam and Walt, yes.

[7:35] He, he was one of my best friends.

[7:38] Yeah.

[7:39] He lived with his significant other, a washer, and that's Beverly.

[7:43] Yeah.

[7:43] Right near there. So you are related to him.

[7:46] Mm-hmm.

[7:47] I just met George. I just met, uh, Mr.

[7:53] White and, uh, like a father-

[7:55] You remember George, yeah?

[7:57] Yeah, George White. He's the one who, who, um,

[8:04] who recommended me to vote for the, uh,

[8:08] they had a program in Massachusetts for college students-

[8:11] Mm-hmm

[8:12] ... that, uh, you could go to, and Mattapoisett only got one.

[8:16] Worcester.

[8:16] Yep, Worcester.

[8:18] New Bedford got quite a few of them. I met Beverly's friends there.

[8:21] She's a New Bedford... That's the only thing she did wrong, she graduated from New

[8:24] Bedford High, but we'll forget that.

[8:26] Okay, Mr. Severa, you're here for what?

[8:28] And he was, he was the one that recommended me.

[8:32] And, uh,

[8:34] anything I did for Mattapoisett, I can go to Manny Nunes-

[8:38] Yeah

[8:38] ... what he did for me. You know, when going to the, uh, um,

[8:43] when I went to that program in Wayham, Manny Nunes hired me and I

[8:48] made, uh, broke up sidewalks and sidewalks.

[8:52] Mm-hmm.

[8:52] I knew when I went there, I was well-tuned in terms of how to do roads and how to

[8:57] do sidewalks, and, and I told that to the people there and I said, "Could I work

[9:02] with the regulars? I just don't want to s- Picking up paper and raking things.

[9:06] They let me go to the regulars. I worked with the regulars, and we built roads.

[9:10] We built, cut down trees. So anything I did for Mattapoisett, you one-upped it,

[9:16] Tommy.

[9:19] It's an incredible place to be. I can tell you some of the nicest people you'll

[9:24] ever meet. Mrs. LeBaron, she was my mother.

[9:27] Yeah, but we really have a meeting we have to conduct.

[9:29] Yeah.

[9:29] So we have extremely-

[9:31] Mrs. LeBaron, Manny Nunes

[9:32] ... we have to move on with your request.

[9:34] You know, the police department.

[9:39] The best

[9:42] and smartest man I've ever met, and I'm talking about

[9:47] getting Nobel prizes, 50 awards all over the world, but my father was smarter

[9:53] than all of them in terms of helping people.

[9:57] I might've been good in terms of my science work, so that's why I'm here.

[10:05] And the council, I've got an incredible

[10:10] council.

[10:11] The Council on Aging?

[10:12] On Aging.

[10:13] Yep.

[10:13] It was-

[10:14] So you're looking to do like a bench. Is that what I'm hearing?

[10:18] Is your-

[10:19] It was Jackie and-

[10:20] Yeah.

[10:20] Jackie Davis. Yeah

[10:22] ... Jackie and Sarah.

[10:22] Yep, Sarah. Yep.

[10:23] And it turns out that Sarah-

[10:26] Yep

[10:27] ... Sarah is the ladies that we met.

[10:30] We loved,

[10:33] to me, the center of Mattapoisett was Baptist Street, where George

[10:38] White was.

[10:39] Right. Mm-hmm.

[10:40] Where the blacksmith was, where the museum was.

[10:45] You got an incredible museum there.

[10:47] Mm-hmm.

[10:50] Because of what we're going through with Karen, our oldest daughter, unfortunately.

[10:55] She's getting another one,

[10:57] a Nobel Prize with her husband

[11:01] at Berkeley, and she got in an accident after Karen-

[11:05] Mr. Zevero, we need to keep on track.

[11:07] We have a lot of things we have to attend to tonight.

[11:10] Okay.

[11:10] So, yes.

[11:10] So how I got here is Jackie and

[11:14] Sarah said, "Gus, I think that you

[11:18] should have a monument, too." One of my best friends was Malcolm.

[11:24] So we're the best friends.

[11:26] Mm-hmm.

[11:28] I worked for Palcas, and I made one big mistake, though.

[11:34] I went to the head of,

[11:37] in Fairhaven, to the head of the Select Council.

[11:43] And what I did there, I went and I met a lady that I met and knew,

[11:49] because to me,

[11:53] where I was brought up on Haven Street, my

[11:58] street where I enjoyed everything was to Baptist Street with George White,

[12:04] with a museum, even meeting these ladies in the museum

[12:10] on the last open house we went to, and you got an incredible museum there.

[12:15] Mm-hmm.

[12:15] Yeah, I mean-

[12:16] Is there something you want to do at the museum?

[12:18] I'm going to do a lot for Mattapoisett.

[12:21] If-

[12:21] Okay. What's your request of us tonight? Because we have to move our meeting on.

[12:25] The request tonight is I hope that you support

[12:29] my father and I with a monument, and if Dad isn't on it,

[12:35] I'm not interested. I want my dad to be on there because of what he did for me.

[12:39] The smartest man I've ever known in my life, and he taught me.

[12:44] I remember he said, "See that person on the street there?

[12:48] See that person on the street there?" This is after I got an award from New York

[12:52] State. Every place I've gone, when you're nice to somebody, they've gone overboard

[12:57] for me.

[12:59] That's great.

[13:00] You're talking about millions of dollars, the State University of New York, they're

[13:03] my students. They know that Bev and I are very sick right now.

[13:07] I don't know if I'm going to get through the year. We've got two...

[13:10] When you're 92-

[13:10] What's your request to us here tonight?

[13:12] My request to us is I hope you approve that we get a monument in my name

[13:18] and my dad's name. That's my request.

[13:20] And if you don't do it,

[13:24] it's not going to stop what I'm going to be doing for the town of Mattapoisett.

[13:28] Long after I die, my daughter,

[13:31] the oldest daughter, knows, and we will support.

[13:36] We're going to do everything possible, as I've done every year, to support

[13:40] Mattapoisett. We're talking about if you need money, anything that Jackie needs,

[13:46] she knows that. Anything that Sarah needs, she's got it from us.

[13:51] No questions asked. And that's what I hope that you do, and if you don't do it,

[13:56] it's not going to

[13:59] make any difference other than I'll be hurt. I'll be hurt.

[14:03] I'll be honest about that.

[14:04] Oh.

[14:04] But it's not going to make a difference in terms of what I think of Mattapoisett

[14:08] and my support for Mattapoisett long after I die. Long after I die.

[14:13] We're making the wills now. I think I'm on borrowed time.

[14:19] Yeah.

[14:20] You know, 92 years old. All my father's, all of-

[14:23] Well, this monument, we don't usually have that kind of request in town.

[14:30] But that's-

[14:30] We have plaques and benches.

[14:34] Yeah. Well, the monument, I want a bench with that.

[14:39] I like the monument that,

[14:42] the only thing is that he wasn't alive to see it, that Malcolm got.

[14:47] There's a bench there, the monument's there.

[14:49] It's in-

[14:52] Where is this located?

[14:53] Yeah, in-

[14:55] Malcolm's monument.

[14:56] Yeah. And he and I were very, very close friends, and he was very proud that

[15:02] Fairhaven High School-

[15:04] Milton?

[15:05] What?

[15:06] Milton Zevero?

[15:06] The monument for Dr. Milton Zevero?

[15:08] Yeah, Milton Zevero.

[15:09] Yeah, okay.

[15:10] I'm very-

[15:10] At Ned's Point?

[15:11] Yep.

[15:12] At Ned's Point. Yeah. I essentially want the same thing on the other.

[15:16] We were quite good friends, and we both belonged to-

[15:22] And do you have a picture of what you're

[15:26] asking of as a monument?

[15:29] Of Palcas. We both belonged to Palcas, and I was,

[15:36] because of my reputation as a scientist on Palcas, they appointed me to

[15:41] represent the

[15:45] government of Portugal and fail-

[15:49] We're getting off track again. I'm sorry. We have to move on with our meeting.

[15:53] Okay.

[15:54] So you need to explain exactly what you-

[15:56] I essentially want what Malcolm has. That's what I would like.

[16:00] I don't know what he has. Does anybody know?

[16:02] Ray, it's a-

[16:03] It's a boulder with a plaque on it.

[16:04] It's a stone. Yeah.

[16:05] Yeah.

[16:06] That's what I thought.

[16:06] I was going to say, I think it's-

[16:07] It's got a plaque, a monument, and a chair. That's essentially what I want.

[16:12] We were close friends, and he was very, very proud.

[16:16] Fairhaven knows this. Fairhaven has done

[16:20] a lot for me and him. We were the first two in the Hall of Fame.

[16:28] The first two, and we were from Mattapoisett. He got a big kick out of that.

[16:32] The first two in the Hall of Fame of Fairhaven High School-

[16:35] Mm-hmm

[16:35] ... was two Mattapoisetts, he and I.

[16:38] Mm-hmm.

[16:39] And they've been very good to me. They have a monument for me in Fairhaven

[16:44] outside. They have inside, a big plaque. They named a chair after me.

[16:50] All of that I didn't... So Fairhaven, and what Fairhaven has worked out and where I

[16:55] screwed up is I should have gone to-

[17:00] Mr. Zevero, what we need to do, we have to move forward with our meeting.

[17:02] Maybe we can all go down to Ned's Point, the board, and look and see.

[17:06] Yeah.

[17:08] Okay, here it is. Here.

[17:09] I should have gone down and seen you people.

[17:13] Yeah.

[17:13] But I went down and saw this lovely lady-

[17:15] Yes

[17:16] ... at the museum, and I told her to ask me if anything I can do for her.

[17:22] Yeah.

[17:22] And she never did.

[17:23] Well, I think we have something we need to vote on, and-

[17:25] I should have seen the head of the-

[17:27] Okay.

[17:28] Yeah.

[17:29] Another time?

[17:30] Yeah.

[17:31] So-

[17:32] So why don't we, Dr. Zevero? Here.

[17:36] Gus.

[17:36] Gus. Gus is okay.

[17:37] I have-

[17:38] I didn't want to be presumptuous, but-

[17:39] I have honorary degrees all over the place.

[17:42] All right. So Gus, what we'll do is-

[17:44] What?

[17:45] Mike showed us the picture. I remember the...

[17:47] Ray, I think you were, were you and I on the board when we did that plaque?

[17:50] That was a number of years ago.

[17:52] Yes. Mm-hmm.

[17:52] So why don't we, we'll go take a look at that if that's something similar to what

[17:57] you're looking for.

[17:58] That's what I'm looking for.

[17:59] It's not something we get asked about very often, so understand that we're going to

[18:03] do our research and understand what's there.

[18:06] We have the information you provided to us.

[18:09] So what we'll do is we're going to take a look at the plaque down there, and then

[18:12] what we'll do is we'll have Michael or Katie get back in touch with you once we, as

[18:16] a board, have a chance to dig in a little bit deeper, and then we'll come back at a

[18:21] subsequent meeting, and we'll have a conversation about next steps forward.

[18:26] If there are steps forward, what that may be, but we'll get an idea of the order of

[18:30] magnitude, and we'll take it from there.

[18:32] I appreciate that.

[18:33] We do have other things to cover, as Jodi mentioned, but

[18:38] we appreciate you and your wife coming in, obviously, with the recent passing of

[18:42] your daughter. Our condolences to your family.

[18:45] But we do appreciate you taking the time to come in tonight-

[18:48] Right

[18:48] ... and explaining what the request is.

[18:51] One last thing I want to tell you about is Mrs.

[18:55] Mattapoisett was

[18:59] Anna Bradley.

[19:00] Yes.

[19:01] Anna Bradley.

[19:01] I remember her.

[19:04] Anna Bradley

[19:07] did for all the Mattapoisett boys.

[19:09] The only thing that I gave you, that was all her stuff. That was in my mother's.

[19:16] She knew all the mothers and the Mattapoisetts, she went every day, the

[19:20] Mattapoisett kids. We went up on everybody, basically.

[19:24] Read it in the "Sandard Times."

[19:26] Mm-hmm.

[19:30] Very few of my many friends in Mattapoisett are alive now, and one of them is Lee

[19:36] Bradley. Another one is Polly Fields, but she's not doing that well now.

[19:41] Right.

[19:41] And-

[19:44] Thank you for all you do for the town.

[19:45] Thank you.

[19:47] We appreciate it.

[19:48] And-

[19:49] Thank you guys for coming here tonight.

[19:50] We have to move on.

[19:51] Yeah, we appreciate it. Thank you.

[19:52] I appreciate it, and remember, if whatever happens, it'll

[19:58] never stop. We'll be never-

[20:00] We understand and appreciate that.

[20:02] And that's Gus.

[20:03] Thank you, Gus.

[20:04] Thanks.

[20:04] I got enough doctors.

[20:06] Thank you.

[20:07] Thank you, Gus.

[20:07] God bless you all.

[20:08] Thank you.

[20:14] And I'll tell you who the alpha is at home.

[20:19] Aren't they all?

[20:20] I'm the alpha at the university. She's the alpha at home. God bless you all.

[20:25] Thank you.

[20:29] All right. Being 6:55, we're going to have our public hearing.

[20:35] Does anybody have the notice to read?

[20:37] Notice.

[20:39] Mattapoisett public notice of public hearing has been scheduled for September 22nd,

[20:44] 2026, at 6:45 PM in the first floor conference room of the Mattapoisett Town Hall,

[20:48] 16 Main Street, Mattapoisett, Mass and on Zoom, upon the application of Coco Bows

[20:53] Incorporated DBA Coco Bows Coastal Cantina, 20

[20:58] County Road, Mattapoisett, Mass 02739, requesting all alcohol license, common vic

[21:04] license, and entertainment license. Bryce Gilbo will be the manager on record.

[21:09] Mattapoisett Selectboard, Jodi L.

[21:11] Bauer, Chairperson, Jordan Collier, Vice Chair, Judith Murphy, Clerk, Francis

[21:16] Louise Kearns, Nicole Boylan.

[21:20] Come on board.

[21:21] Did you hear Bryce?

[21:22] I'm Bryce, yes.

[21:23] Nice to meet you, Bryce.

[21:25] You too.

[21:25] Welcome.

[21:26] Have a seat.

[21:28] Yes, definitely sit down.

[21:29] Have a seat, please.

[21:30] Absolutely.

[21:31] All right.

[21:31] We're excited about this. This is good news.

[21:34] Yeah, it is.

[21:35] Tell us a little bit about what's going on.

[21:37] Yeah. So I'll tell you about myself. I'm Bryce Gilbo. I'm 44 years old.

[21:40] I'm here with my wife, Brittany, back there.

[21:42] Brittany.

[21:43] And my trusted advisor, Kim Career.

[21:46] I am currently the head football coach at Old Rochester High School.

[21:49] Oh, okay.

[21:52] I've been in the restaurant business for 26 years.

[21:55] Most recently, last 12 years at Blue Fish Bar and Eatery in Marion, where I've been

[21:59] the general manager for the last seven years.

[22:01] So

[22:03] I've been in the business. I oversee day-to-day operations, hiring, staffing,

[22:07] trainings.

[22:09] It's my lifelong dream to always go out on my own and open my own restaurant.

[22:13] That location is a great opportunity for me. It's a smaller place.

[22:16] It's very manageable. My wife owns her own business here in town.

[22:20] She's a massage therapist, Ohana Body Works.

[22:23] It's 100 yards away from that, 20 County Road.

[22:27] So we're looking to obtain a liquor license, and the entertainment license, and

[22:29] everything like that.

[22:31] Okay. Only question I have with entertainment, what are you thinking?

[22:35] And where?

[22:36] Yeah, inside, outside.

[22:39] Probably, a small one-man acoustic, something like that.

[22:41] Maybe inside, maybe, in the summertime out on the patio.

[22:45] No big rock and roll band.

[22:46] No, I'm not, because I like live music.

[22:48] I don't like when you can't have a conversation.

[22:51] Okay.

[22:52] So that's not my really my vibe that I'm looking for, something more laid back.

[22:58] Yeah.

[23:01] Any questions, anybody? Francis?

[23:04] How many people you anticipate capacity for?

[23:07] Yeah, what is capacity?

[23:10] And I'm going off of what I was told when it was a previous spot.

[23:14] I heard it was like 60 something people inside and another 30 on the outside.

[23:19] So I drew my plan after talking to Christine according to that.

[23:23] Okay.

[23:24] That was my understanding from the previous people who had something there.

[23:29] How much does this layout vary from what was there?

[23:31] It's exactly the same. There's nothing-

[23:33] Oh, is that? Okay.

[23:34] There's nothing that's changed. It's the same.

[23:35] Very, very close.

[23:37] The only thing, it's been vacant for, I think, a year and a half, so a lot of

[23:40] cleaning in there, painting, some new decor going on the walls.

[23:44] Obviously, a new business name.

[23:46] Yeah.

[23:46] Right.

[23:48] Where'd you get your name from?

[23:49] So we have a dog, Coco. We have a dog, Bow.

[23:51] Oh.

[23:51] So Coco Bow's Coastal Cantina.

[23:54] Cool.

[23:54] He's kind of-

[23:55] All right.

[23:55] Yeah.

[23:56] Very cute.

[23:57] Yep.

[24:02] I like it.

[24:03] And you're restricted to the confines of the porch and the building.

[24:06] Yep. The patio.

[24:06] There's nothing else outside.

[24:08] Nope, just the patio area.

[24:10] Okay.

[24:10] Yep, and I understand all the rules with enclosed, with the alcohol and everything.

[24:15] Yeah, it's very specific.

[24:17] Very knowledgeable about that, so.

[24:18] Okay. Entertainment. So,

[24:25] were there, do you have the prior license, Katie?

[24:29] I don't.

[24:30] Were there any restrictions? I can't recall.

[24:34] There were when you did it, I believe.

[24:38] Madam Chair, if I may.

[24:39] Yes.

[24:40] Are there any abutters?

[24:44] One house on the corner on Pearl Street.

[24:47] Yeah. Okay.

[24:48] Across the way, I think there's apartments.

[24:50] Apartments above the-

[24:51] Above the businesses.

[24:53] Yeah, I met those folks the other day.

[24:55] Okay. They would've been all foreknown of this meeting.

[24:59] Yep, that's fine.

[25:00] Right?

[25:00] Yep, just to make sure. Yeah.

[25:02] Okay.

[25:05] Yep.

[25:07] So you're looking for acoustic, not-

[25:09] Yeah, we're not looking to do like-

[25:12] Gus wanted to hear this.

[25:13] Thank you.

[25:14] Thank you.

[25:14] Thank you very much.

[25:15] It's not going to be like a three-piece band or anything like that. No.

[25:19] Yeah.

[25:20] Yeah.

[25:21] Yep.

[25:21] Noise pollution.

[25:22] It's not like a DJ or anything. I'm not-

[25:24] Noise could be a problem.

[25:25] There's TVs. There's four televisions in there.

[25:33] No jukebox-

[25:36] Jukebox

[25:36] ... music, any of that stuff doesn't have to be in the background?

[25:40] There will be music on through the speakers.

[25:43] Yeah.

[25:43] Yeah, but not karaoke or anything like that. That's not what we're looking to do.

[25:49] Do you have a projected open?

[25:52] Well, depending on the liquor license, we'd like to be open mid-October, beginning

[25:55] of November. I understand those things take time.

[26:00] I understand that completely, but that's what we're working towards.

[26:04] That's what we're trying to do.

[26:07] So what kind of restrictions did you think you had on the other one?

[26:11] Because-

[26:11] No amplified instrumental would be-

[26:14] I think it's more about the noise, right?

[26:16] Yeah.

[26:16] Because I think, just having something there is always better than not, but I think

[26:22] it's going to be more.

[26:25] We've typically, when there's been residents around, we typically try to stick with

[26:30] acoustic, non-amplified.

[26:32] Right.

[26:32] Minimal amplification.

[26:33] Right.

[26:35] Okay.

[26:35] Lessons learned.

[26:36] Yeah. Right.

[26:38] Are hours set in stone for entertainment?

[26:41] Usually, yeah.

[26:42] Is it until 8:00?

[26:43] It's usually on the license as well. What are your projected hours of operation?

[26:47] 11:30, open up. We'd close for dinner Sunday through Thursday

[26:53] at 9:00 PM. We'd probably do close at 10:00.

[26:55] Okay.

[26:56] And then Friday, Saturday, an hour later.

[26:58] So the kitchen will close at 10:00, close at 11:00.

[27:01] That's all.

[27:03] So yeah. There's no late nights anymore, even with-

[27:05] Yeah, I know. Even anymore

[27:06] ... COVID.

[27:07] Yeah, you see how the streets just clear.

[27:09] It's great.

[27:10] No, you're right.

[27:10] Being in the business now.

[27:11] It is nice.

[27:12] 11:15, you're at home instead of being home at 1:30 in the morning.

[27:15] It's true. Yeah.

[27:16] Yeah.

[27:17] It's just a different-

[27:18] Yeah.

[27:20] Yeah, I think it-

[27:22] A lot of people anxiously awaiting your-

[27:24] Yeah, they are. So I think it's a wonderful thing.

[27:27] No offense, I do appreciate that.

[27:32] Okay.

[27:32] Awesome.

[27:33] Guys, on anything?

[27:35] So-

[27:35] Instructions.

[27:37] Go ahead. No, go ahead.

[27:38] No.

[27:38] I would say, at this point,

[27:42] we'll vote.

[27:43] I would make a motion that we close the-

[27:47] Hearing

[27:47] ... both.

[27:49] Well, how does-

[27:49] I just want to know how many employees did you think is out here?

[27:53] We're shooting for 15.

[27:55] Great.

[27:55] Front of the house and back of house.

[27:57] It's going to be a small-

[27:58] Right

[27:58] ... everything's going to be small. Small menu, small staff.

[28:01] Coming from where I'm at now, where it's 91 people in the summer-

[28:04] Right

[28:04] ... my phone doesn't stop ringing.

[28:05] Right.

[28:06] So I'd rather the smaller we can keep it, the better, I think it'll be.

[28:09] Right. Sure.

[28:09] Yeah.

[28:10] Sure.

[28:11] It's good.

[28:14] Yeah, that was super.

[28:15] I make a motion to close the public hearing.

[28:17] Second.

[28:17] There's been a motion and it's been seconded to close the public hearing.

[28:22] All in favor?

[28:24] Aye.

[28:25] Aye.

[28:25] Aye. Passes unanimously.

[28:28] All right, so-

[28:30] From the press or the public?

[28:33] Questions from the public or the board members?

[28:35] Public, that's not anybody-

[28:38] Well, the board members after the hearing.

[28:40] Right.

[28:41] Raymond Hanks, 18 Crystal Spring Road.

[28:43] Will the consumption of alcohol be the same as it was before for patrons

[28:49] that are eating on the premises? There won't be a separate bar or anything?

[28:53] No, it won't. It's the same setup as that-

[28:55] Same as that

[28:56] ... other day.

[28:59] Okay.

[29:00] See anybody. Press? No questions?

[29:04] All right. So couple votes. Madam Chair, I make a motion we approve the

[29:09] common victualler's license and the all alcohol license as proposed.

[29:14] Second.

[29:15] Then, motion's been moved and seconded. All in favor?

[29:20] Aye.

[29:20] Passes unanimously.

[29:23] And Madam Chair, I make a motion we approve the entertainment license as requested

[29:28] with the stipulations,

[29:31] or in sure to include that there will be four televisions on premises as part of

[29:37] the entertainment license, as well as

[29:40] live music, non-amplified-

[29:43] Right

[29:43] ... acoustic during normal business hours only.

[29:46] Second.

[29:47] That sound about correct?

[29:48] Yeah, that sounds great.

[29:50] Okay.

[29:50] Yeah.

[29:50] You can always come back and modify.

[29:52] Yeah.

[29:53] Yeah.

[29:53] So there's been a motion, it's been seconded. All in favor?

[29:55] Aye.

[29:56] Aye.

[29:56] Aye. Passes unanimously.

[30:00] And I think we're done.

[30:01] Yeah, we're good.

[30:02] So good luck.

[30:02] Thank you so much.

[30:03] No, good luck to you.

[30:05] Good luck with it.

[30:05] Christine.

[30:06] Okay.

[30:06] Yeah.

[30:07] All right. Awesome. Thank you so much.

[30:08] And also, you. Just,

[30:12] you're not going to start alcohol.

[30:14] You can't soft open with a food and liquor license-

[30:17] Correct

[30:17] ... as you probably know.

[30:18] Yep.

[30:19] So if there's a delay with the alcohol permits, you're not serving.

[30:22] Yep. Is that something I have to come up to Town Hall to let you know, "Hey, we're

[30:27] doing this," or we can just-

[30:28] Just don't serve alcohol.

[30:28] So yeah, just not serve alcohol.

[30:30] Just because you have the bar doesn't mean you have to use it.

[30:32] Yeah.

[30:32] But if there's an issue and you want to start doing food-

[30:35] Yeah

[30:35] ... oh, the food truck. Is the food truck part of this common victualer-

[30:39] It looked like it

[30:40] ... or is it separate?

[30:42] So I saw something on there on the food truck. Yeah.

[30:46] The food truck doesn't require a license.

[30:49] Is it a separate-

[30:49] Oh, that's totally separate

[30:50] ... it's a prep kitchen.

[30:52] Oh, okay.

[30:52] Yeah.

[30:53] So that is what a health inspector-

[30:55] Yeah, because you're not doing food on the premises

[30:56] ... because I saw food truck and you got a liquor storage. That's just for... Okay.

[31:00] Yeah.

[31:00] Okay. Awesome.

[31:01] Yeah, so if you decide you want to do food, you want to do takeout, or you want to

[31:05] just try out some menu items, you can sell prepared food with your common victual.

[31:09] That's not a state license, that's only us.

[31:11] Okay.

[31:12] So you have flexibility if you want to do something like that.

[31:15] In the event you decide you want it.

[31:17] Yeah. Okay, that's awesome.

[31:19] Okay.

[31:19] All right.

[31:20] Good luck.

[31:20] Thank you, guys, so much.

[31:21] Thank you.

[31:21] Have a good night. Thank you.

[31:23] Yay. Good luck.

[31:26] Two new food establishments in a couple months now.

[31:29] I like it. I like it.

[31:30] Have a good night.

[31:31] See you soon.

[31:32] Good luck, good luck.

[31:32] Thank you.

[31:34] Appreciate it.

[31:35] The next is a summer review and program updates for the recreation director.

[31:39] That's Marissa Hughes. Come on up.

[31:41] Come on, Marissa.

[31:42] I'm in the hot seat, I guess.

[31:43] Yes.

[31:45] Just wanted to invite you so the new board members can meet you-

[31:50] Of course

[31:50] ... and see who's-

[31:51] Great

[31:52] ... in charge of our rec stuff, and just give us an idea of how the summer went and

[31:56] how the future programs are going, and-

[31:59] Sure

[31:59] ... what your plan is.

[32:00] Sure.

[32:01] Thank you.

[32:02] We had seven weeks of camp. We were hoping to have eight weeks of camp, however,

[32:07] Mother Nature had other plans for us-

[32:09] Oh, I see

[32:09] ... so we were able to still do the seven weeks.

[32:13] So seven weeks at center school. The kids daily went to the beach, had tennis

[32:18] lessons, they had swim lessons. We went from four to five groups this summer, which

[32:24] was nice, so we were able to expand a little bit, because we saw the need of

[32:30] putting the six-year-olds and the seven-year-olds in their own group.

[32:33] So we were able to do that, which was nice.

[32:35] Because you have little ones.

[32:37] We have the four and five-year-olds also.

[32:39] That is good to split.

[32:40] Yes. And we were lucky this past summer because the four and five-year-olds, we

[32:43] were able to get one lead counselor who was with them all summer long.

[32:47] So that was their main person who just was consistent for that group.

[32:51] Because it's the toughest group.

[32:53] That's tough, yeah.

[32:55] Toughest group only because many of those children haven't even been to school

[32:58] before.

[32:59] Oh, right.

[33:00] Right.

[33:00] So this would be their first experience, and it's a full day.

[33:03] It's not even a half day, it's a full day, so.

[33:07] We were able to bring in yoga once a week, which was a nice new addition that we

[33:10] added this year. We were able to add a storyteller this year, and then we did some

[33:14] of our other programming. We did a foam party, we did

[33:20] knucklebones, we did the water slide.

[33:23] Oh, fun.

[33:23] The ice cream truck come. And then, the director, Sarah, did a great Mattapoisett

[33:28] special week where we did all things around Mattapoisett.

[33:31] The fire department came, the police department came.

[33:35] Okay.

[33:35] We went to Dunsentra Park and did a little tour up there.

[33:39] They also went down and did a picnic one day.

[33:43] I'm trying to think of the name of the park over here.

[33:45] Mm-hmm. Oh, Monroe Park.

[33:46] Monroe Park, yes.

[33:48] Yeah.

[33:48] So they did that. Yes. And they did the museum also.

[33:51] Oh, yeah.

[33:51] Nice.

[33:52] And the library. Yep, the library was a weekly visit for them.

[33:55] They went to the library once a week.

[33:57] Wow.

[33:57] That's great.

[33:58] That's really-

[33:59] That's nice

[33:59] ... keeping them busy.

[34:01] Yes, it was great.

[34:01] That's great.

[34:02] It was great. So we look forward to next summer.

[34:07] The director is interested in coming back, so that's always a good thing, because

[34:10] the more consistency you can have-

[34:12] Mm-hmm

[34:12] ... the program tends to grow that way.

[34:14] We did staff 20 counselors this year, so kept a lot of-

[34:18] Wow

[34:19] ... kids busy working.

[34:21] Yeah.

[34:21] Who's the director? Her name is Sarah Zager. Okay. She summers here. Okay.

[34:26] And she's a teacher during the school year.

[34:28] Oh, nice.

[34:29] Very nice. Yes. The beach was open for eight weeks.

[34:32] We were able to have 14 staff over there,

[34:36] which I thought it went really smooth this summer. We did have a couple hot days.

[34:40] We had a-

[34:41] Crazy

[34:41] ... couple of fainting people, but they handled the situation very nicely.

[34:45] Yeah, I heard that. Yep.

[34:47] So, yeah. We were able to replace a few of the swings at the beach this summer.

[34:51] Good.

[34:52] So that was something good. Also, the pickleball court was painted, and we put up a

[34:58] new net over there.

[34:59] That's all right.

[35:00] Yes, so a lot of people have been complimenting that.

[35:03] Okay.

[35:04] So, and our fall programs just started last week.

[35:08] I'm trying to think how many we have.

[35:10] We went from 14 last year, and we have 21 programs running this fall.

[35:16] Great.

[35:17] And anywhere from 30 to 70 kids staying after school from 3:00 to 4:00.

[35:21] That's great.

[35:22] Yeah, that is nice.

[35:23] It's really important because it's so hard to find afterschool care in our

[35:26] community.

[35:26] It really is.

[35:27] So to have that option is really-

[35:30] For parents, it gives them that extra hour, so.

[35:33] Yep, it really is great

[35:34] ... and the kids love it because there's a variety of things we have.

[35:37] Good deal.

[35:38] Yeah. We have some sports fits. We have some volleyball.

[35:41] We have a floor hockey clinic coming up. We have jazzy jewelry.

[35:46] We have diamond art. We have several Lego clubs. The Lego clubs are really hot.

[35:52] Sweet.

[35:54] We started K to 2 with Lego, and now we go all the way to sixth grade.

[35:58] Yeah. That's amazing.

[35:59] We have so many children who just love their Legos.

[36:01] Yeah.

[36:01] That's great.

[36:03] Yeah. Oh, Beyblade Club, that's another fun one.

[36:06] I did have a boy stop me in the gym today and ask me, "Mrs.

[36:08] Hughes, when are we going to start a chess club?" So we're hoping that will be

[36:11] winter.

[36:12] Nice.

[36:12] Yeah. Nice.

[36:13] Oh, my.

[36:14] Yeah.

[36:14] Yeah. So.

[36:15] That's great.

[36:17] That's good. That is good.

[36:18] Basketball registration will open up on October 1st.

[36:20] That's one of our big recreational seasons coming up.

[36:24] And then we'll start a whole new programming probably right after Thanksgiving.

[36:29] Yeah. We did go to the open houses this year too, the school's open houses.

[36:33] Oh, okay.

[36:34] I think we've done that for the last two years.

[36:35] I think that's a great way, especially for new families to get to know us.

[36:39] Oh, yeah.

[36:39] We also began an Instagram page besides the Facebook page, but we feel like the

[36:44] younger families are now into Instagram.

[36:46] Oh, most are, yes.

[36:47] So we do a lot of communication that way.

[36:49] Yeah.

[36:50] So.

[36:50] That's all. Yeah. That's good. Great.

[36:53] Yeah.

[36:54] What about interest for adult programs?

[36:56] Adults, yeah.

[36:57] This has come up-

[36:58] Sure

[36:59] ... a few times now, and I've always been told there's just no interest.

[37:02] I did try adult pickleball. One person signed up over the summer.

[37:05] Oh, my.

[37:06] So I did try it.

[37:08] Oh.

[37:09] But Mahjong seems to be the new thing.

[37:11] Oh, that.

[37:11] I know that people stay away.

[37:13] They are all-

[37:13] Those older people, yes

[37:15] ... the topic of conversation at dinner on Saturday, so.

[37:17] Yeah, I did learn that from-

[37:18] Really?

[37:21] That's why I was asking.

[37:22] So that might be something that we might...

[37:23] I know the Council on Aging does it during the day, but maybe it's something for

[37:27] later to do in the rec office, offer it for some people who might wanna learn.

[37:32] They're pretty-- You guys are a little less than that.

[37:34] There are a lot of other people in Pretty Defense.

[37:36] There are a lot of people that do Mahjong.

[37:38] I hear that.

[37:39] Because we have days that they come.

[37:40] It is-

[37:40] Then they go to other houses

[37:42] ... I went, and it's a lot of people, and they are very-

[37:46] Into it, right?

[37:47] ... intense. Yeah.

[37:47] Into it.

[37:48] Not, yeah.

[37:52] Right.

[37:52] It's, yeah.

[37:53] So I don't know. I mean-

[37:54] It's a lot

[37:55] ... if people approach me, I try to-

[37:57] Yep, that's good

[37:58] ... look into things. Like I brought back swim lessons this summer at the beach

[38:01] because we had people asking about swim lessons.

[38:03] Right.

[38:04] So we did bring back the swim lessons.

[38:06] Oh.

[38:06] We also added CIT program back at camp this summer too, because people-

[38:11] Yeah.

[38:11] So if people express an interest, we try to-

[38:14] Hmm. Yeah

[38:15] ... look into it and see how we can offer it.

[38:17] Great.

[38:18] So volleyball is a big new topic, too, that we're covering.

[38:22] We have boys volleyball after school.

[38:24] We have girls volleyball, and we've started a little competitive league that's

[38:28] gonna start in January.

[38:29] That's wonderful.

[38:30] And we had 26 girls sign up for it.

[38:32] Really?

[38:33] Yes.

[38:33] Awesome.

[38:34] Great.

[38:34] They've been traveling pretty far, so we were able to bring it here for them.

[38:37] That's awesome.

[38:38] Right.

[38:38] Yes.

[38:38] Yeah, that's good.

[38:40] So.

[38:41] Yep. Sounds like it's going really well.

[38:44] Yeah.

[38:45] Busy.

[38:45] I think so, yeah. It is busy.

[38:47] Busy.

[38:47] I feel like we have a week or two where it's kind of quiet, and then we gotta get

[38:51] ready for the next-

[38:51] Yeah, you gotta get to the next season

[38:53] ... yes, whatever's coming next, so.

[38:55] Yeah.

[38:55] Yep. Good. Yep.

[38:57] I know.

[38:58] Good for you.

[38:58] Good meeting you.

[39:00] Yeah.

[39:00] This is great. I was wondering, though, if there'd be an opportunity to expand to

[39:03] junior high grades.

[39:05] Hmm.

[39:05] The high school kids, I feel like, are pretty well scheduled.

[39:09] Pretty well represented there.

[39:09] But there's,

[39:11] like I feel like there's just a gap at that junior high to senior high.

[39:15] Yeah.

[39:15] Like babysitting skills or-

[39:17] Oh, a babysitting-

[39:18] We have a class tomorrow night

[39:19] ... oh, a babysitting class.

[39:22] 36.

[39:22] Nice.

[39:23] See, that's good.

[39:25] I'm trying to figure out how to reach out to that age group.

[39:28] Because it is a hard age group. You're right. That is a tough one.

[39:31] We did offer volleyball-

[39:32] Because I really wanted to do it

[39:34] ... at the junior high, and nobody signed up.

[39:35] Yeah.

[39:36] Nobody signed up. So I think they have a volleyball team at the junior high, but we

[39:39] did offer a volleyball skills clinic-

[39:41] Yeah

[39:41] ... and not one junior high person signed up.

[39:43] That's it.

[39:44] Oh, no.

[39:44] That's the tough part, is trying to get them to.

[39:47] Wow.

[39:48] I can reach out to the principal up there, Silas, and see if I can see.

[39:52] Nice.

[39:52] Because maybe there's some teachers up there who might wanna run a quick afternoon.

[39:57] There was a couple things that those were talking about.

[40:01] So someone was just saying to talk with the library?

[40:05] Is that-

[40:06] Did you see that?

[40:07] Yeah.

[40:09] Do you have a comment on junior high?

[40:10] Do you have a comment?

[40:12] You-

[40:12] Marissa, is to talk to-

[40:14] Oh, she wrote-

[40:15] She wrote-

[40:15] Yeah, Gina wrote, "Tell her to work with Matt resembling for the public library.

[40:19] Betsy, the librarian, is really keyed into that group." That's what she wrote.

[40:24] Oh, okay.

[40:25] Yeah.

[40:27] The junior high group?

[40:28] Sorry. Go ahead, Gina.

[40:29] Yeah. As a trustee, I know that Betsy's been really working with that group and

[40:34] bringing in more and more people to be able to-- And youngsters are starting, that

[40:39] particular age group is starting to show up and doing some technical stuff with

[40:44] some of the seniors. They're doing an awful lot of things.

[40:47] I feel like that's a really good connection.

[40:49] Yeah.

[40:50] Melissa, I processed your cultural council reimbursement, and it's going to the

[40:55] town tomorrow. So Melissa's done a very good job of looking for cultural council

[41:01] grants as well, and I just want to bring that up, so.

[41:05] Thank you.

[41:06] Thank you.

[41:07] Thanks.

[41:07] Good. Lauren?

[41:09] Are you doing programs during Thanksgiving, Christmas, that parents that work, so

[41:14] that they have some kind of daycare during that time?

[41:17] Unfortunately, the schools are closed, and we're not allowed to use them during

[41:20] those hours.

[41:21] That's right.

[41:22] So I guess only because of a custodian-

[41:25] Yep

[41:25] ... and it would be a kind of a custody issue.

[41:26] That's when they probably do deep cleaning.

[41:28] Then they do that also.

[41:29] Yeah.

[41:29] Yes.

[41:30] Yeah.

[41:30] That's why the camp has to end by a certain date in August-

[41:33] Right

[41:33] ... so they can finish.

[41:34] Yeah, they won't be able to use it.

[41:35] Yes. That is a good idea.

[41:37] Well, your camp is fabulous because my grandson went for the first time and slept

[41:40] for 12 hours a night.

[41:43] He was really tired.

[41:44] He was really tired.

[41:46] Wow, that's great.

[41:47] I know.

[41:47] That's worth its weight in gold.

[41:48] It's been great. Right? It is.

[41:50] This is so refreshing.

[41:51] Yeah.

[41:52] Yeah, this is wonderful.

[41:53] It is. Great program.

[41:54] Thank you.

[41:55] Yeah. Thank you so, so much.

[41:57] Have a great night.

[41:57] Yes, you also. Thank you.

[41:59] Thanks.

[42:01] That is really wonderful.

[42:02] Sorry about that. My phone was ringing.

[42:04] Mm-hmm.

[42:05] All right. Next item-

[42:06] All right, Ray, come on up.

[42:08] Yep, come on up. So we'll get you-

[42:11] So if you don't know, this is Ray Andrews, and-

[42:17] Nice to meet you

[42:18] ... he's gonna talk about the center school clock tower.

[42:22] So-

[42:22] Because he's in charge of that.

[42:25] How much do you want?

[42:26] He's gonna keep the clock for a long time.

[42:30] So going back a little ways.

[42:32] Yeah, just a little, right?

[42:33] Yeah.

[42:35] Thank you. Thank you, Ray.

[42:37] If you two hear-

[42:38] Question there?

[42:40] I got it

[42:42] right here.

[42:43] Here you go, Ray.

[42:43] Thank you, Ray.

[42:44] Here you go, Ray. Thank you. I appreciate it.

[42:47] Yep, we're good.

[42:47] Are we looking for an overhaul, Ray?

[42:48] Well, here's the deal. After 128 years, the weight of the bell and its

[42:54] carriage

[42:56] is sagging. The floor is sagging, as you see in the, go past the first page and the

[43:01] second page, it's ponding right by the hatch coming up.

[43:04] Mm-hmm.

[43:05] The only way the water is now is evaporation.

[43:09] If you go to the next page, right at the bottom, you see there's a weep hole.

[43:13] On the east and west wall, there was a weep hole.

[43:15] The original design of the clock was the clock was higher, the bell was high, and

[43:20] the floor was self-draining. It no longer has the capability of self-draining

[43:25] because of the weight and the sagging of the bell and the carriage.

[43:28] You're looking at

[43:31] a rough calculation, I think it was around 1500, 1600 pounds.

[43:35] I talked with,

[43:39] Rick Sharone, who was very helpful in the leasing project, and we had as a

[43:43] structural-

[43:43] Oh, right. Yep

[43:45] ... and Rick has worked up a price of $2,500 to do the design and the parts and the

[43:51] material list that I can take then and go to contractors to get bids for

[43:56] CPCBA this year. We just do in November.

[44:01] Right.

[44:01] So

[44:03] what has been done by the town already, which is a decent job that Mike did with

[44:07] the paint job outside.

[44:09] Mm-hmm.

[44:09] And under Mike Gagne, they did the, on the last page, they

[44:16] ground out all the poor mortar in the brick on the bell floor and repointed it.

[44:22] And then he also did the Temco AlphaGard flooring-

[44:26] Mm-hmm

[44:26] ... on that floor because we had leaks coming in.

[44:29] So now the idea is, from talking to Rick, that very last picture to the right is

[44:35] probably to suspend some type of a cabling system, and it would be bolted through

[44:41] the carriage. Underneath the floor below the carriage, there are two beams that run

[44:45] the length of the beams in the carriage.

[44:48] So going down to that point and then suspending it with some type of cabling system

[44:52] and probably turnbuckling-

[44:53] Right

[44:54] ... so we can slowly raise the floor up.

[44:57] So the point now is hopefully to get $2,500 from you so I can tell Rick to go ahead

[45:03] and do it, so we can get it out to contractors for bidding for the November

[45:08] CPC meetings.

[45:10] Mm-hmm.

[45:14] Oh, and just to let you know, the revolving fund is strictly established for the

[45:19] maintenance of the clock, the clock mechanism, and the dial hands.

[45:22] I specifically did that because the building belongs to you folks.

[45:26] Mm-hmm.

[45:27] We raised the money from private donations.

[45:29] We raised $33,000 in private donations, $55,000 in CPA money, which was just for

[45:35] the clock, the mechanism, and the dial. So we can't use any of that money for this.

[45:38] So that's the

[45:40] A compact function.

[45:42] Sure.

[45:43] And 2,500 is for design and what? You said-

[45:45] The engineering and material list.

[45:48] So with an engineering and material list, I can go to the contractor and say, "All

[45:51] right, here's the design. Here's the material list you're going to need."

[45:54] Total.

[45:55] Okay.

[45:55] "What's the price going to be?"

[45:57] Mm-hmm.

[45:57] That's relevant.

[45:57] Yeah.

[45:59] Yeah.

[45:59] So that's important for me. So in that November cutoff date, CPC, I can go to-

[46:03] Listen, community preservation monies-

[46:05] Yeah

[46:05] ... he can apply for that through design.

[46:08] So that's the idea, is next summer or next spring town meeting would be go an

[46:12] article for historical grant.

[46:13] Right.

[46:15] So what about-

[46:17] So your option, building and grounds, we have budget in building and grounds.

[46:20] We could take 2,500, and I'd like to replace it at the fall if we do that, just

[46:24] because we-

[46:24] Right, because it-

[46:25] We tend to-

[46:25] ... was put in for something else, right? It's your budget.

[46:29] Oh, it's a general budget operating line.

[46:30] All right.

[46:31] But we use building and grounds for basically anything that pops up.

[46:34] Sure.

[46:34] We typically just-

[46:35] 25, I think we put 25,000 in there.

[46:38] Mm-hmm. And we've also had our past couple years.

[46:41] Um, no, we've overspent that line the last couple years.

[46:45] It was.

[46:46] Uh, so we've gone back to town meeting to-

[46:48] To replenish

[46:48] ... or actually, year transferred it to, to offset that, just because things have

[46:52] been breaking. Library, for example, there's been-

[46:55] Right. I was gonna say-

[46:56] ... a little bit at the library.

[46:56] Some work at the library. Yeah.

[46:58] So things fan... You know, there was almost a fire.

[47:00] There was a fan that-

[47:01] Mm-hmm

[47:02] ... that, uh, short-circuited. So, uh, we increased the building and grounds when I

[47:07] got here because of the age of buildings, and we do painting and other things.

[47:11] Yeah, you had unforeseen conditions on the paycheck.

[47:13] Yeah.

[47:13] A lot of woods had to be replaced.

[47:15] So, uh, there is money in that account you could use it for.

[47:17] I just would prefer to replace it because if something were to pop up, it's-

[47:21] Mm-hmm

[47:21] ... it's not designated to any purpose.

[47:23] But I will say we, with the amount of buildings we have, 25,000 isn't going to be

[47:27] very far.

[47:28] No, it doesn't. Yeah, that's-

[47:30] So it's September 22nd.

[47:32] Yeah, well, I, I-

[47:33] And town, our special town meeting's on-

[47:35] May

[47:36] ... November 9th.

[47:37] Oh, on the special, sorry. Sorry.

[47:44] Yeah, that's special.

[47:45] How quickly can Rick do this?

[47:48] Um,

[47:49] I think that, I just don't want Rick, you know, don't go into anything too deep.

[47:53] Just give me a price, and then once I get okay from you, I need those plans so I

[47:58] can-

[47:58] How, how, how quickly can Rick get you the plans?

[48:00] Uh, he'll have in time for me to go for do...

[48:02] I can get out to contractors in probably, like, I, I would imagine like a couple

[48:06] weeks, and then I can get out to contractors to get bids from them, so I can take

[48:11] it to CPC with a number, at least two bids-

[48:14] Two bids

[48:14] ... if not more, for this is what I got for you for the cost to do the job.

[48:20] CPA, when does that, when does that pass?

[48:22] When will they do?

[48:23] The, the-

[48:24] When's that gonna be due?

[48:25] November, right?

[48:26] November.

[48:26] Like, 13th.

[48:27] Just gotta, yeah, just gotta-

[48:29] I was just gonna say mid-November usually.

[48:31] And that one grades in. Yeah.

[48:33] And that would fall under historical?

[48:35] Yes.

[48:35] Historical, yeah.

[48:36] Okay.

[48:37] It's an old school.

[48:38] Okay.

[48:38] 1898.

[48:40] They just have to make sure they move money into that save bucket.

[48:45] Yes, Bob?

[48:45] I have a question.

[48:46] Yeah.

[48:47] Bob Spooner, River Road. Uh, I'm on the historical commission too, and we went

[48:52] before-- well, what we wanted to do was make Center School on the National

[48:56] Registry. Just wanted to put a plaque on it because the only thing, the, uh, um,

[49:02] the range hall is the only one we have in town. So Ray, don't get me wrong.

[49:07] I wanna see it done too. But the question was, when we went before the school to

[49:12] get approved, they want, they wouldn't let us do it because if anything, um,

[49:18] why was it not appointed? They wouldn't let, they wouldn't let it be approved

[49:21] because it's, I guess, would limit the funds that could be spent.

[49:25] Now we're only talking-

[49:26] It's highly restrictive.

[49:27] Right.

[49:28] We're only talking the original school. We're not talking the addition.

[49:31] Right.

[49:31] And that's why, uh, like I say, is they, they wouldn't let that happen.

[49:36] So if that be the case, so shouldn't it be that the school pays for these repairs?

[49:43] It's a town building.

[49:44] The school is on, the school is us. The lo- the local schools are technically us.

[49:48] Yeah.

[49:48] So we, we, they're insured under us. They're, they're maintained by our funds.

[49:53] Uh, OR would be different. They're a separate, uh,

[49:57] organization. But these two schools are technically us.

[49:59] No, but the maintenance of it, that's what I, that's what-

[50:01] Yeah

[50:01] ... the question I have as a homeowner.

[50:02] Yeah, but it, it's still paid under, under-

[50:04] Right, under the town-

[50:05] Under the town-

[50:06] Townwide

[50:06] ... budget.

[50:06] It's a local budget.

[50:07] Right.

[50:07] Like you did when they painted the school.

[50:09] Yeah, it came out of that local budget with a-

[50:11] Okay

[50:12] ... basically our operating funds.

[50:13] All right. In, in your question, when we reached to the project in 2003-

[50:17] Right

[50:17] ... Cafe, the architect. His first question, "Is this building listed on the

[50:21] national list?" He said, "No." "Right, good.

[50:24] Don't even think about it till after we have completed the project."

[50:27] Right.

[50:28] If you want to put the historic part on it after, fine, but don't do it now because

[50:31] there's so many restrictions.

[50:33] Right.

[50:33] It does get restricted.

[50:33] So as far as Cafe was concerned, as long as it wasn't on the list, they could do

[50:38] the engineering for both the old building and the new addition.

[50:42] Right.

[50:42] But now, from what they've said to me, is, "If you want it on the list, go ahead

[50:45] and do it the historic part."

[50:46] Well, yeah, that was the only thing is, you know-

[50:49] Yeah

[50:49] ... uh, our last chair we had, she wanted to do it.

[50:52] Yep.

[50:52] And it just didn't happen. So don't get me, Ray, wrong.

[50:56] Ray, if it comes before CPC, absolutely.

[50:59] I can't see why we wouldn't do it, save it. Well, that's gonna be the concern.

[51:03] We did have a clock for June.

[51:05] Mm-hmm.

[51:05] It was because the floor had sagged to the point it was causing binding on the

[51:09] drive shaft.

[51:09] Oh, is that right? Yeah.

[51:10] Yeah, and so I had to do some manipulation to relieve the pressure.

[51:13] Yep.

[51:13] It doesn't, a snow storm that's wet will stop the dials.

[51:16] Mm-hmm.

[51:17] The clock is designed to stop when any, if they have pressure on the dial hands or

[51:22] any mechanism-

[51:22] For sure

[51:23] ... the clock just stops.

[51:24] Mm-hmm.

[51:24] You figure out what's stopping it.

[51:26] Sure.

[51:26] If it's the snow-

[51:27] Make it right

[51:27] ... it melts the next day, I can restart the clock.

[51:29] Mm-hmm.

[51:30] That's how sensitive the clock is though.

[51:32] So with the sagging of the floor, it is causing a little binding on the drive

[51:36] shaft. So I did some relieving of that.

[51:39] Yep.

[51:39] As the temperatures, we can get back in the end of July, but...

[51:42] And we need to get some type of a permanent fix on the sagging floor.

[51:45] It's just safety.

[51:46] And this will take what, for another 100 years?

[51:47] Yeah. Last one was 128 years.

[51:49] Right.

[51:50] So it was Ron's.

[51:51] It was Ron's, yeah.

[51:52] Yeah, the pressure piece, I know. So why did it, why'd this happen?

[51:55] If I, if I may.

[51:56] Yes.

[51:56] I know we looked into the topic you're talking about with council.

[52:00] I can provide you with the opinion from council.

[52:01] There were some concerns with council about being on that.

[52:05] Register.

[52:06] The list.

[52:06] Yeah. Yep.

[52:06] And that's why it was decided by the school committee, uh, I believe the chair at

[52:11] the time, that we probably shouldn't do it.

[52:13] So let me, I can send you that opinion, Bob, because it lays out the reasoning why

[52:17] it wasn't-

[52:17] The museum also had that problem.

[52:20] Yeah. It also affects our insurance. Yeah, so let me, I'll follow back up with you.

[52:25] Okay. I'll bring it back before the commission-

[52:27] Yeah

[52:27] ... just in case you ever wanna come back again with it.

[52:29] Right. Exactly. Yeah, let me give you the reasoning so you-

[52:32] All right.

[52:32] Yeah.

[52:33] Thanks.

[52:34] Yeah. Yes, Ray?

[52:35] Raymond Hanks, speaking, Crystal Springs.

[52:37] No problem.

[52:38] Just a question, something that you said, Ray, about you had raised separate funds

[52:43] for the clock.

[52:44] Mm-hmm.

[52:46] Um, since the school is a town entity, how was Ray able to raise, uh,

[52:51] private funds

[52:53] for the clock?

[52:54] So there, there's an endowed fund, so somebody endowed funds to, for that purpose.

[52:58] So endowed funds can be given.

[53:00] Okay.

[53:00] Right, somebody can endow to the town-

[53:02] Mm-hmm

[53:02] ... an amount of funds. And we actually have several endowments in town.

[53:04] I was gonna say, yeah.

[53:05] Revolving funds with the clock.

[53:07] And the revolving. Mm-hmm.

[53:09] Yeah.

[53:09] You know where I was going with this.

[53:10] Yeah.

[53:10] So if he can raise funds for the clock, so I'll, I'll come back here.

[53:14] So fundraising, fundraising is an interesting topic. Town can't fundraise.

[53:18] I guess that's true.

[53:19] So, uh-

[53:20] Right

[53:20] ...

[53:21] we can talk about, there are ways of doing it, but you can't, you can't, like the

[53:26] town can't openly fundraise for that purpose.

[53:28] But endowments-

[53:28] Donations.

[53:29] Yeah, that's what I was gonna say.

[53:30] Yeah. So, um-

[53:31] Unless you're, unless you're a 501 [c] [3] .

[53:33] Yeah, correct.

[53:33] You've gotta tie it to that.

[53:35] So, uh,

[53:37] you know, I don't know the origins of the clock fund, but I would say there was

[53:40] probably a way of them doing that on their own.

[53:42] Yes.

[53:43] I mean, the Police Officers Association.

[53:44] Yeah.

[53:45] It was a 501 (3) C. So all the donations went to the, uh, Center School clock fund.

[53:50] It was all done-

[53:51] They have a vehicle for that.

[53:52] Yeah.

[53:53] And the Mattapoisett, and for Mattapoisett Police, yeah, it was all-

[53:55] Yeah, so that had to be the whole thing.

[53:57] Or it's, or it's an endowed funding where somebody gave money.

[54:00] Would, would there be any opposition by the board if I began to pursue us becoming

[54:05] a 501 [c] [3] ?

[54:09] Who?

[54:10] Who?

[54:10] Huh?

[54:10] Who?

[54:10] Cemetery committee.

[54:11] The committee can't.

[54:12] The committee can't.

[54:13] So the committee itself... All right, so let's, if we look at this like the library

[54:18] and, um, the COAs, like the Friends of the Council on Aging-

[54:21] Right

[54:22] ... is the Friends of the Public Library.

[54:23] The bike path, the Friends of the Mattapoisett Bike Path.

[54:25] Friends of Mattapoisett Museum.

[54:26] Right. So anything that usually says friends is usually the 501.

[54:30] Yeah.

[54:31] The fire department has the, the Fire, Fire's like similar, oh, sorry, the

[54:34] Firefighters Association.

[54:36] Yeah.

[54:36] Which is a 501. The Police Brotherhood is a 501 [c] [3] .

[54:39] Yeah.

[54:39] So the committee itself, the committee itself, if you're gonna form the committee,

[54:45] wouldn't be able to just become a 501.

[54:47] There would have to be a

[54:51] 5

[54:54] Friends of the cemetery.

[54:56] So-

[54:56] Friends of that wood cemetery.

[55:00] It would be a different title, but actually-

[55:02] Right

[55:02] ... the same thing.

[55:02] It's maybe got a formal thing to do with it now.

[55:04] Well, there has to be a division between church and state.

[55:07] Correct.

[55:08] Yep.

[55:08] So-

[55:09] So Brendan, I'm the secretary of the Friends of the Mattapoisett Library.

[55:13] Yes.

[55:13] So if you want, offline we can chat, and I can tell you how we set that up.

[55:17] Perfect. Okay.

[55:18] You just got to keep them separate, that's all.

[55:19] Yeah. It's like the Knights of Columbus, you have to have a business end and a

[55:24] charitable end.

[55:25] Yeah. Yes.

[55:26] Similar.

[55:27] Yeah, same idea.

[55:28] Thank you.

[55:31] I have no problem with you using building and grounds money, and if, depending on

[55:35] when we get the invoice, we can always just go to put another dollar article.

[55:39] Yeah. So we have $35,000 budget, and we spent $600 to date so-

[55:44] Oh, awesome

[55:45] ... we have plenty of money.

[55:46] Awesome.

[55:47] Again,

[55:48] that's an account that gets hit, so just-

[55:50] Right

[55:51] ... we tend to spend the whole thing.

[55:53] Just put that on your list of replenishments for that.

[55:56] Yep.

[55:57] So I can vote to proceed.

[55:59] As long as they're okay with it.

[56:00] Do you want to make a motion?

[56:01] Motion to approve the $2,500. Are there any questions?

[56:04] Second.

[56:05] There's been a motion and a second. All in favor?

[56:07] Aye.

[56:09] Passes unanimously.

[56:10] I had questions about the

[56:13] housing. Did you mention it?

[56:15] Oh, if you want to mention the housing trust. Yeah, sorry.

[56:18] Yeah, the housing trust. I want to talk about that.

[56:21] As Janet forced me to spew out all my crap in front of the draft of the

[56:26] Mattapoisett Affordable Housing Trust, which I gave to Mike.

[56:30] My recommendation to you folks would be to, as we stated, certain people that can

[56:36] be on this trust committee, I'm not sure exactly what is, how it's made up.

[56:41] I think it's seven members.

[56:42] Yeah.

[56:42] Something like that. But I would recommend advertising people interested in serving

[56:47] on the Mattapoisett Affordable Housing Trust.

[56:50] Because what happened in the past there was a Tri-Town housing cooperative, which

[56:54] folded and we-

[56:55] Broke up.

[56:56] Yeah. It was like $500 each of the three towns money went back.

[57:00] Then we had the Mattapoisett Housing Partnership, and we just kind of fumbled along

[57:04] for years and really nothing ever came of it.

[57:06] Then we had town meeting approve a Mattapoisett Affordable Housing Trust.

[57:11] Mm-hmm.

[57:11] So you have statutorily created it.

[57:13] Okay.

[57:14] It's now just-

[57:14] Been doing nothing

[57:15] ... forming it, staffing it.

[57:17] Did you say it's five members? What did you say?

[57:19] It's in there.

[57:20] Check with Michael. I got a copy. It's in the office.

[57:22] Okay.

[57:22] Yeah, it's also- I think it may be seven, but there are specific groups it comes

[57:27] from. But I would-

[57:28] Oh, okay. Gotcha

[57:29] ... I would reach out to-

[57:30] Minimum five.

[57:32] I'll check that.

[57:32] Seven

[57:33] ... please step forward and submit your letters because-

[57:35] Yeah

[57:35] ... the only way it's going to get off the ground is if people volunteer, and then-

[57:39] Right.

[57:40] Yep.

[57:41] And it's a time-consuming thing. It really is.

[57:45] Right.

[57:45] Yeah.

[57:46] That's-

[57:47] And I'm not going to be there.

[57:48] Right.

[57:48] I've been there, done that, no more.

[57:50] Right.

[57:51] I already tried to recruit him for it. Didn't go so well.

[57:53] Didn't go so well? We can try. Put it out there.

[57:57] Janet, would you?

[57:58] Oh, yes, she would. You bet.

[58:00] That's about it.

[58:01] Yeah.

[58:02] So thank you for your time.

[58:03] Thanks, Rick.

[58:03] Thanks. We'll move on the contract and-

[58:05] Appreciate it.

[58:07] Whatever, anything else you need from us.

[58:09] Yeah. We'll find out when Rick has that.

[58:11] Hopefully we have some contracts because they'll give us some good bids.

[58:13] That'd be great.

[58:14] Hold on, Rick.

[58:16] Yep.

[58:16] Yeah. Well, to this end, and more just a comment,

[58:20] we wanted to wait for the workshop that we are scheduling, it sounds like November

[58:25] 17th-

[58:25] Oh, right

[58:26] ... which is going to be put on by Barrett Consulting.

[58:30] We will advertise the heck out of it before it happens.

[58:33] But where the town has asked them to come in to put a presentation together on

[58:38] setting up the trust, setting up housing initiatives in town, so on and so forth.

[58:42] We're going to invite, obviously, other committee members, residents to come in and

[58:46] listen. And we've been actively recruiting members for the potential trust or any

[58:51] other advisory committees that come up.

[58:54] But again, that's going to be advertised as well.

[58:56] But we wanted to wait till we have sort of a formal understanding of what the role

[59:01] is going to look like, how many board members we're going to have, so on and so

[59:03] forth, before we go out and publicize the role, so that if people sign up, they

[59:08] understand what they're getting into.

[59:09] Yeah.

[59:09] So we'll pick your brain again before that happens, and others, but just know

[59:14] there's going to be a lot out there in the public sphere so people understand what

[59:19] the role would entail should they want to participate.

[59:22] So just wanted to-

[59:24] And one final thing. You don't have to reinvent the wheel. Marion has one.

[59:29] So many towns, yeah.

[59:30] Great.

[59:30] Pleasure.

[59:32] Definitely.

[59:33] Take care. Thank you very much.

[59:34] Thanks, Rick.

[59:35] All right. Well, next is

[59:40] improved transparency methods for meeting.

[59:46] A bit about meetings and being recorded, and I guess some

[59:52] meetings aren't video recorded, they're just

[59:58] the notes are taken during a meeting.

[1:00:01] And is there some way we

[1:00:05] can encourage certain committees and boards to try to use the conference room more

[1:00:11] for recording, so people can go on the website and, "I want to watch that meeting,"

[1:00:18] and there it will be?

[1:00:21] If a meeting is recorded in the Zoom,

[1:00:27] like this,

[1:00:29] people can go in and look it up, correct?

[1:00:32] Or is that-

[1:00:35] So understand you have different levels of boards, right?

[1:00:37] Yeah, because you got different elected-

[1:00:40] Some boards that willingly, we could be recorded by Danny, and we post those

[1:00:45] recordings. We have other boards that don't feel that the recording should be

[1:00:49] posted online. Some of those boards, we have the authority on, they're an appointee

[1:00:55] of this board. Some are not. Some boards are, your appointed boards will be not in

[1:01:00] this location, and they don't get recorded.

[1:01:02] Right.

[1:01:02] So it's not uniform, which is the reason why this item's on here.

[1:01:10] Right now, currently it's not uniform, I just would tell you that.

[1:01:13] Okay.

[1:01:14] So it depends on what meeting is where.

[1:01:17] Yep.

[1:01:18] Which is part of the problem with recording it.

[1:01:21] I know, like the tree committee meets at the library, they take an owl with them on

[1:01:24] recording for the owl.

[1:01:26] Yep.

[1:01:27] But again, not every committee is the same.

[1:01:28] So I don't know if you want to try to uniform that.

[1:01:31] For the committees that don't post the recordings, I certainly can send a letter to

[1:01:34] some of them. I do say there is one elected board we don't host meetings for.

[1:01:39] Yeah, it's not for that to be done. We could send them communication.

[1:01:44] Again, I can't force them to do it. They're their own elected board, but I can send

[1:01:49] communication that sort of asks them to do it kindly.

[1:01:54] The only other way to do it is if I would have to kind of push a bylaw.

[1:01:57] There's really-

[1:01:57] I was just going to say a policy or something.

[1:01:59] Policy.

[1:02:01] A policy. You have a policy of this room.

[1:02:04] Right.

[1:02:04] You could put a policy for this room, but again-

[1:02:06] Yep

[1:02:06] ... you can't tell another elected board what to do.

[1:02:08] Yeah. I wanted to-

[1:02:09] Thank you.

[1:02:10] That's exactly, a bylaw.

[1:02:11] Right.

[1:02:12] Mm-hmm.

[1:02:12] Right.

[1:02:13] So when we talked about, I know

[1:02:16] minutes and other things, we talked about posting some of that, and one of the

[1:02:19] other problems obviously, we have some committees that do one thing and other

[1:02:22] committees do other things.

[1:02:24] Yeah. Right.

[1:02:25] So just in an effort to try to, I guess, uniform the process-

[1:02:30] Right

[1:02:31] ...

[1:02:32] I didn't know how you wanted to approach that, which is part of the reason why the

[1:02:35] agenda item's on here.

[1:02:36] Can I ask a question?

[1:02:37] Yes, please.

[1:02:38] Is it a technical issue that maybe there is an expertise

[1:02:45] gap-

[1:02:45] Yeah

[1:02:45] ...

[1:02:47] in how to-

[1:02:47] On how to do it?

[1:02:48] I'm trying to say it nicely.

[1:02:50] No, but you're right.

[1:02:51] I know you are.

[1:02:52] You're right, Francis, because sometimes it's a lack of-

[1:02:55] They just don't know

[1:02:56] ... the education or training.

[1:02:57] How to do it.

[1:03:02] And some of the other towns that I've worked with, we kind of made it mandatory

[1:03:05] that all boards and committees, whether they were elected or not, they had to go

[1:03:10] through some... And it was open meeting laws and stuff like that.

[1:03:14] It was something we were addressing as a full

[1:03:19] board, or a full town really, to make sure we did have the uniformed,

[1:03:25] everyone understands what open meeting laws are, everyone understand, we brought in

[1:03:30] legal-

[1:03:30] We've done-

[1:03:31] ... to talk about that

[1:03:32] ... we've done the open meeting law training periodically for a while.

[1:03:35] But here it's more of, I think it's a training on how you conduct a meeting.

[1:03:40] No offense, but making sure that, and I'm going to pick on you, Lauren, you got to

[1:03:46] know who's running the meeting and who controls that mute.

[1:03:51] Three, or the mute.

[1:03:52] Because we can't-

[1:03:55] And she didn't realize it was not on, and she was talking.

[1:03:59] And she said a comment, and she talked about it, so I kind of know. I get it.

[1:04:05] But herein lies some of the training issues.

[1:04:09] Going into a meeting, every board or committee, whether elected or not appointed,

[1:04:15] they should understand that there are rules and regulations on how you should be

[1:04:20] conducting a meeting. No one should have

[1:04:24] clear

[1:04:27] exposure.

[1:04:30] We should be able to control it as a board or a committee.

[1:04:34] And maybe that's more of the educational piece of it. I'm not sure.

[1:04:37] I think also using technology is sometimes really challenging

[1:04:43] for people.

[1:04:44] It is.

[1:04:44] Right.

[1:04:45] And maybe the first step is letting people know what tools are available, how to

[1:04:49] use them, and allowing them to get used to using it before going live.

[1:04:53] Right.

[1:04:54] Maybe that might help. I'm not saying that is a solution to this problem.

[1:04:56] Sure. Right.

[1:04:57] I'm just saying.

[1:04:58] But-

[1:04:59] Yeah

[1:04:59] ... but if it's here, don't they have the built-in support of the-

[1:05:03] Right

[1:05:03] ... professional recording? They have the support regardless. Yeah. We have- Right.

[1:05:07] We have the ability- We have the ability to help ... to make it happen.

[1:05:09] I'm saying that would eliminate some of the challenge if there is a professional in

[1:05:14] the other room, right, recording.

[1:05:16] I guess there'd be still some training involved, but-

[1:05:18] Sure.

[1:05:19] But it removes some of the answers.

[1:05:21] Yeah. This room's easier than most because the technology-

[1:05:24] Right

[1:05:25] ... is here.

[1:05:25] Right.

[1:05:25] I will say it's not clearly understood by every person who uses this.

[1:05:29] Sure.

[1:05:29] Sure. That is pure honesty. This takes a little bit of training.

[1:05:33] Mm-hmm.

[1:05:34] Sure. Yeah.

[1:05:36] I do think there is, though, there is-

[1:05:39] There's an apprehension.

[1:05:40] Thank you. For-

[1:05:41] That's a better point.

[1:05:42] Yes, it is. Yeah. Which is, again, why this is fun here.

[1:05:47] Yeah. Right.

[1:05:48] And what steps the board wants to take to kind of alleviate-

[1:05:51] Yeah

[1:05:51] ... that apprehension.

[1:05:52] Yep.

[1:05:53] Can you be more specific what the apprehension is?

[1:05:55] Is it technological or is it-

[1:05:57] No, I don't think so

[1:05:58] ... just, it's somebody-

[1:05:59] Well, it's... Yes.

[1:06:01] Is it both?

[1:06:03] Probably both. Maybe it's both.

[1:06:05] Yeah, probably both.

[1:06:06] I have been told.

[1:06:08] When I have asked in the past for some meetings, I'm not going to get into what

[1:06:11] boards they are, "Why can't you record them?" I was told,

[1:06:16] first and foremost, "You can't tell me to." Which to do. I know.

[1:06:20] And secondly, "We have no need. If people want to hear what we have to say, they

[1:06:24] can come sit in the meeting,"

[1:06:26] is what I was told, so. And as an elected official, as an elected board, that is

[1:06:31] their prerogative to do so.

[1:06:33] Yep. Okay.

[1:06:34] Unless there is a bylaw requiring them to.

[1:06:36] You got it. Unless there's a bylaw requiring.

[1:06:38] But you... Okay. Lauren Rosenfeld Kirwan.

[1:06:42] But people in this last election especially have been throwing around the word

[1:06:45] transparency.

[1:06:46] Exactly. That's what I was saying.

[1:06:47] But then they're not the ones doing it.

[1:06:51] And so it just seems to me like, okay, I'm now on the MVP 2.0

[1:06:57] committee. I've been trying to go and watch meetings just so that I can educate

[1:07:02] myself. If I need to talk to somebody, who has this expertise that I could go and

[1:07:07] ask a question to? I just found out school committee, you had to go through the

[1:07:10] school website. I had no idea because I was looking for the school committee.

[1:07:16] But I don't know. I just want to learn stuff.

[1:07:19] Mm-hmm.

[1:07:20] But I can't learn it if they're not putting it out there to me.

[1:07:22] Accessible.

[1:07:22] And I don't always have the time because I wanted to watch one meeting and then

[1:07:26] watch another meeting. Well, the first meeting went too long, so I didn't get to

[1:07:30] watch the second meeting.

[1:07:31] Right.

[1:07:31] Whereas I could've gotten off and got on the other one,

[1:07:35] knowing.

[1:07:38] The reality of it is, if it is an appointed board or commission, or committee, this

[1:07:43] board can by a vote for policy and process require that-

[1:07:49] If it's an appointed board, yes

[1:07:50] ... if it is an appointed board, we can require transparency through recording and

[1:07:55] rebroadcast.

[1:07:56] Right.

[1:07:56] If it's an elected board-

[1:08:00] You have the bylaw

[1:08:00] ... it's up to the board. By law.

[1:08:04] You have to do it.

[1:08:05] But if you're elected-

[1:08:07] There's checks and balances in government, right?

[1:08:08] It's just like Supreme Court, executive office, legislative office.

[1:08:12] Right.

[1:08:12] Executive office can't tell the legislator.

[1:08:14] Here, there are separate-

[1:08:16] That's right

[1:08:16] ... elected boards that have specific powers outside of the select board.

[1:08:20] The select board is the executive office, but they have certain powers.

[1:08:23] They can't tell another elected board what to do.

[1:08:25] Right.

[1:08:25] They are separate from-

[1:08:27] Good. So, you guys couldn't tell the library that they have to-

[1:08:31] Right. Correct

[1:08:31] ... do this, but you could tell the COA.

[1:08:34] Yep.

[1:08:34] Correct.

[1:08:35] Okay. Good point.

[1:08:35] So how do we go about suggesting it-

[1:08:39] To the elected-

[1:08:39] ... to that board, meeting and ask them to put it on, and-

[1:08:42] That's hence the question. If the board would like me to send a strongly worded

[1:08:46] letter, I can send a strongly worded letter and-

[1:08:48] And see where it goes from there

[1:08:50] ... the only option to force it would be via town bylaw.

[1:08:54] A bylaw.

[1:08:54] Which again, before you go that route, there's training and other things we need to

[1:08:59] consider in how we're going to set that up, because we also have to schedule

[1:09:04] meetings so they could be in an area where it could be recording everything.

[1:09:07] Or they could take me out, and they could do it wherever they want.

[1:09:09] Right.

[1:09:09] Yeah. There is going to be-

[1:09:11] But there's going to be some type of training and education.

[1:09:13] Yeah. We'll have to think that out a bit.

[1:09:15] Well, let me back up for a second.

[1:09:16] Yeah. No.

[1:09:17] If we think they need training so that we can record what they're saying, then we

[1:09:21] should be worried about whether they have the training to run a meeting properly

[1:09:24] and conduct business following the open meeting law.

[1:09:28] So don't have to be on Zoom. There's no requirement. No, I hear that. I know that.

[1:09:31] I don't know if I necessarily agree with that.

[1:09:33] Yeah.

[1:09:33] Using these things are not easy.

[1:09:35] Yeah.

[1:09:37] I understand that, but if there's the training piece of the technology, but there's

[1:09:41] a training piece for running an open meeting. Sure. Yeah.

[1:09:45] Yeah. Yes, and I would like to separate the two.

[1:09:47] That's why I meant.

[1:09:47] Got you. Understood.

[1:09:48] Separate them.

[1:09:48] Yeah, I think you should separate the technological piece.

[1:09:51] Oh, that's fine.

[1:09:52] Yeah.

[1:09:53] Mm-hmm.

[1:09:55] That's fine, but we just need to make sure.

[1:09:57] But there's also an open meeting-

[1:09:59] 100%

[1:09:59] ... piece of it that-

[1:10:00] That you have to abide

[1:10:01] ... ties into it.

[1:10:01] Be quiet

[1:10:02] And again, but it's no different than us running.

[1:10:04] If we turned off all the cameras in the Zoom, and we went back to just us in the

[1:10:08] room-

[1:10:09] Right.

[1:10:09] Yeah ... we'd still have to abide by all- Open meeting ... that stuff.

[1:10:13] The only difference is the cameras are running.

[1:10:14] Mm-hmm.

[1:10:14] Right.

[1:10:15] Yes.

[1:10:16] Nothing changes other than the technology.

[1:10:18] Right.

[1:10:18] So.

[1:10:19] So I guess because the way I look at it is that I have to trust that board that

[1:10:25] they're actually doing the notes correctly.

[1:10:27] Mm-hmm. If you do not feel that they are not doing it, you can submit an open

[1:10:33] meeting law violation. I've experienced some of those-

[1:10:36] Yep

[1:10:37] ... in my time.

[1:10:38] Sure.

[1:10:38] Oh.

[1:10:39] And then the board has to prepare a response to you.

[1:10:41] So those are vehicles that are available to you.

[1:10:45] And I would encourage you-

[1:10:46] Currently, now

[1:10:46] ... yes, like today.

[1:10:48] Yeah.

[1:10:48] I would encourage you to reach out to your electeds for the boards that you need

[1:10:54] information for, and hopefully your electeds can answer that question.

[1:10:57] If they can't, then the next step would be submitting an open meeting law.

[1:11:01] The law.

[1:11:01] Yeah. Violation.

[1:11:02] Exactly.

[1:11:03] Yep. It's just that these things are not common knowledge, right?

[1:11:07] You don't know that unless you're in the thick of it.

[1:11:09] Right.

[1:11:09] And I understand you're just looking for the information, and you just want to find

[1:11:12] it in one click.

[1:11:13] I just want to find out whatever-

[1:11:14] Yeah. Right

[1:11:15] ... this board is doing, but I don't necessarily have the time.

[1:11:17] And I do watch ORCTV and try to-

[1:11:21] Yeah

[1:11:21] ... get my info on there, too.

[1:11:23] Mm-hmm.

[1:11:23] But when I go on, you might have to show me how to get to

[1:11:28] watch the videos.

[1:11:29] Yeah. Right.

[1:11:30] Thank you.

[1:11:30] It's not easy.

[1:11:31] No, it isn't.

[1:11:32] Try to watch the select board page.

[1:11:33] There's an easy way. She showed you. Just scroll a little further. Yeah.

[1:11:36] The video, of course.

[1:11:37] But you got to find it.

[1:11:38] I personally think we need

[1:11:42] to probably a regulation or policy from this board- Good to know ...

[1:11:46] for all elected.

[1:11:47] Mm-hmm.

[1:11:48] Agreed.

[1:11:48] Oh, for sure. I think we need to get our stuff straight.

[1:11:50] Yeah.

[1:11:51] Yeah.

[1:11:52] We can. Like for our own sake. Lead by example.

[1:11:54] Right.

[1:11:55] Yeah.

[1:11:56] Yeah.

[1:11:57] That's right. What about on policy? Yeah.

[1:11:59] We can discuss that.

[1:12:01] Let's just finish the board discussion.

[1:12:03] Oh, okay. Sorry, Brian.

[1:12:04] Hopefully we'll get to yours as well.

[1:12:06] So yeah, I think if we can get our house in order and get a policy, I think the

[1:12:11] easiest thing would be just asking if they have a boilerplate. Sure.

[1:12:14] Because this is not something that the other three-

[1:12:16] Ask. Yeah. It's-

[1:12:17] We're 351 of-

[1:12:18] Yeah.

[1:12:19] Right ... 51, I'm sure.

[1:12:21] Yeah. There's got to be some out there.

[1:12:23] We can get that. Absolutely.

[1:12:25] Can I also recommend, though, that we ask them what they need?

[1:12:29] In other words, this is our request.

[1:12:32] Yeah.

[1:12:32] What do you need to be able to do this to get access to this room?

[1:12:36] Right. In order to comply, what are the tools they're going to need? Right.

[1:12:40] Yes.

[1:12:40] Yep. Right. And there's not a ton. There's a handful of recording-

[1:12:42] Well, I think it's going to be meeting availability.

[1:12:45] Yes.

[1:12:45] Yeah, room availability. I think that's going to be the key.

[1:12:48] Well-

[1:12:49] We're already looking at space needs as it is, so I think therein lies some of the

[1:12:54] restrictions.

[1:12:55] There is. We do have portable technology that can also be used.

[1:12:59] Yep.

[1:12:59] Yeah.

[1:12:59] Yep.

[1:12:59] So we're taking advantage of it.

[1:13:00] Yes, absolutely.

[1:13:01] But we only be taking advantage of it.

[1:13:03] Yep.

[1:13:03] So

[1:13:05] if we find ourselves in a situation where we need more-

[1:13:07] Right

[1:13:07] ... where we have to deal with availability, that's better than-

[1:13:11] I agree.

[1:13:11] Trying to figure out what the heck everybody's doing.

[1:13:12] Right. I know. Yep.

[1:13:14] Sorry, I just want to finish this.

[1:13:15] No, no.

[1:13:16] Yeah. It'll help the town to run better.

[1:13:18] Yep.

[1:13:19] And Frank's kind of moved into exactly what I was going to say.

[1:13:23] Just as a cautionary, you don't want to take some of the boards that have

[1:13:28] volunteers and just kind of

[1:13:32] annoy them to the point that they say-

[1:13:34] Sure. Yep

[1:13:35] ... "I'm just going to leave the board." I mean, I don't have any problem at all

[1:13:39] doing a Zoom meeting or anything like that.

[1:13:43] But some other people might be reluctant.

[1:13:45] So I think the process, exactly as you said, Joanne, should be just to find out

[1:13:51] what they need, kind of do a needs thing initially, and see where you can go from

[1:13:56] there.

[1:13:56] Yep.

[1:13:57] We can make it as easy as possible.

[1:13:59] Yeah, because if you come on Gang Busters, you know what's going to happen.

[1:14:01] Right, exactly.

[1:14:02] Well, no, we can make it as easy as possible just to, you can do it recording

[1:14:05] through Zoom. That's the easiest way to do it.

[1:14:07] That's good. I didn't realize that there were portable-

[1:14:12] The owls will watch. Yep

[1:14:12] ... portable ones.

[1:14:12] We've used it several times.

[1:14:14] Okay. At special fires?

[1:14:15] No.

[1:14:16] Okay. Way back.

[1:14:18] Way back to COVID times.

[1:14:19] We could utilize that.

[1:14:20] I was going to say, that's a-

[1:14:21] For the presentation.

[1:14:23] Yeah.

[1:14:23] We could utilize it over there. Good to know. And other people may not know that.

[1:14:27] Yeah. And the other thing is,

[1:14:31] if you have a board of five, as long as you have a quorum present in person, if you

[1:14:37] have somebody that wants to dial in, they can't make the meeting otherwise, but

[1:14:41] let's just say, for example, Bob's on

[1:14:45] vacation with Dottie out in Western Mass. or something, right? Or up in Maine.

[1:14:50] He could dial into your meeting. As long as you have a quorum present and in

[1:14:54] person, that's what allows the board. It doesn't have to be live and in person.

[1:14:59] Nope. You need a quorum.

[1:15:00] I thought we had to have people. Well, I stand corrected. I'm wrong.

[1:15:04] You can just have-

[1:15:04] Nope. You can have-

[1:15:05] I thought we had to-

[1:15:07] No. They've been talking about changing it.

[1:15:09] Oh, so that's even better. They've been talking about changes.

[1:15:11] They're talking about changing it.

[1:15:12] But COVID rules still apply to the other- Oh, then you could do your whole meeting

[1:15:16] remote then. Nope. And you wouldn't have to go somewhere.

[1:15:18] You could do it from your computers.

[1:15:19] No.

[1:15:19] No, I could. I'm checking with the town clerk.

[1:15:22] Well, yeah. Zoom, yes.

[1:15:23] It's on the clerk.

[1:15:24] For me, I'm just looking for the-

[1:15:27] Right. I was just going to say, you just got to make sure it's an open meeting

[1:15:30] Zoom.

[1:15:32] No, we don't have to. We can hold whatever.

[1:15:34] Oh, whatever. It's in the rules.

[1:15:36] There were discussions about making that-

[1:15:38] I'm fine being wrong, though.

[1:15:39] Yeah.

[1:15:40] That's not an issue.

[1:15:40] Well, there wasn't. There were discussions, but they-

[1:15:43] They're talking about, yeah, they still are talking about it,

[1:15:47] yeah, to get rid of the Zoom. I don't think that'll happen, but they're talking

[1:15:50] about it.

[1:15:50] We could still use

[1:15:52] it.

[1:15:52] That's the only reason why I'm asking.

[1:15:54] All I want to know is what cemetery he's talking about.

[1:15:58] Oh, historic cemeteries.

[1:15:59] Cemetery and Veterans Advisory Committee.

[1:16:02] There's a particular cemetery in Mattapoisett?

[1:16:06] We manage the two town cemeteries, plus we do the memorial bricks.

[1:16:10] Cushion?

[1:16:10] No, a handle.

[1:16:11] No, that's for my bottle.

[1:16:12] Handle tomorrow.

[1:16:13] Oh, okay.

[1:16:14] Yep.

[1:16:15] Bob's in the cushion.

[1:16:18] That's

[1:16:20] all right.

[1:16:20] I think that's a good start. I think we'll go back with just our own group.

[1:16:24] I think that's a good start to-

[1:16:24] Yeah.

[1:16:25] We could always ask Sergeant Carter.

[1:16:27] You good, Mike?

[1:16:28] Yep. Yep.

[1:16:29] Okay.

[1:16:31] Got to watch your words, I guess.

[1:16:34] Next is the kind of the same board announcements.

[1:16:38] So first,

[1:16:40] I'll be aware that Cooper's Way was supposed to be on this meeting, so I don't know

[1:16:44] if there's anybody here for Cooper's Way.

[1:16:46] I don't know if you want to take comments for that before, because we're going to

[1:16:48] have to redo that hearing on that.

[1:16:50] Right.

[1:16:51] But that's fine. I don't know if there's anybody here for that, though, that wants

[1:16:53] to speak.

[1:16:53] Anybody here from Cooper's Way that wants to speak?

[1:16:56] Anybody on the-

[1:16:57] On Zoom?

[1:16:59] Nope.

[1:17:00] No? Okay. Wait till the 13th.

[1:17:03] Sorry, I just wanted to address that while we're here.

[1:17:06] First, early voting hours, so we approved the election warrant.

[1:17:10] Early voting hours, we'll announce this again, but they start on October 17th.

[1:17:17] That's Saturday. They run till Friday, October 30th.

[1:17:23] But I will re-announce this. We will have this on the town website, just

[1:17:27] essentially middle of October, early voting will start for the November election.

[1:17:31] There's also, people should have gotten Vote by Mail postcard-

[1:17:35] Yes

[1:17:35] ... within their mailbox, and they should have gotten the question booklet as well.

[1:17:39] If you haven't received any of those things, please contact the town clerk.

[1:17:42] Reach out to us. Yep.

[1:17:44] Now, I know it seems far away, but it's not that far away.

[1:17:47] No. Comes quick.

[1:17:50] Second,

[1:17:52] I know there's potential for a coastal storm starting Friday into the weekend.

[1:17:58] Just note, the town will provide some updates on this on the website.

[1:18:02] But as of right now, it could bring rain and strong winds,

[1:18:08] and potential coastal conditions, flooding.

[1:18:12] As of right now, it's not a huge concern for Mattapoisett in terms of coastal

[1:18:17] flooding and what not based on wind direction, but it could potentially get worse.

[1:18:22] Just people should check the website.

[1:18:24] We'll have some updates on that moving throughout the week.

[1:18:29] It does look like it'll be windy, so if you have Halloween decorations or stuff,

[1:18:33] you might want to-

[1:18:34] You might want to pull them in.

[1:18:35] Stake them down. Give them to your neighbor.

[1:18:40] Yeah.

[1:18:41] I think that's all we had, right?

[1:18:43] How about the road closure?

[1:18:45] Oh, yep. So

[1:18:47] Water Street culvert has started.

[1:18:49] Worst week to start with a coastal storm coming, but-

[1:18:53] This is great

[1:18:53] ... there is a closure, so Water Street will be closed right near the town beach.

[1:18:58] If you have a boat and you have a dinghy over there, you'll be allowed to go down

[1:19:02] North Street and park

[1:19:05] basically to the right side of that parking area.

[1:19:12] If you're going to the beach, which hopefully, we're a little past beach season in

[1:19:16] terms of the weather, but they will let you park in front of the beach house for

[1:19:20] the time being to access the beach.

[1:19:24] There'll be officers out there directing traffic.

[1:19:26] Just understand you're not going to be able to go from Marion Beacon through Water

[1:19:30] Street. You're going to have to detour and come down North Street.

[1:19:34] And then Oakland Street will be starting up in October.

[1:19:38] Mm-hmm.

[1:19:38] So it further creates a detour. The timing of these projects is unfortunate, but

[1:19:42] obviously we're a summer community. Those areas, we try not to touch during summer.

[1:19:47] Oakland Street will be starting in October.

[1:19:50] That road will be closed off except for residents in that area.

[1:19:56] Well, let's just put it this way. Water Street will take up to two months to

[1:20:01] complete that culvert, and Oakland Street will at least take a month, if not more,

[1:20:05] to get that road reconstructed. So I understand there's some detours.

[1:20:09] If you have questions, feel free to reach out to the highway surveyor or myself.

[1:20:14] I hope people will just bear with us.

[1:20:15] They're two kind of important projects that need to get done.

[1:20:17] The Water Street culvert, that culvert's in dire condition, being replaced.

[1:20:21] Obviously, we got a grant to do it. Also, it will be a water quality union being

[1:20:27] installed to help treat some of the water going out into the harbor, so all good

[1:20:31] things there.

[1:20:34] We talked about CBA. The application for that process is available on October 5th.

[1:20:39] Applications are due on November 6th.

[1:20:43] The information's on the website for that, too, but if you have questions, you can

[1:20:47] call town hall, and I'll direct you to Chuck, and Chuck can fill you in on the CBA

[1:20:51] process.

[1:20:57] I think that's good.

[1:21:03] I don't know if you want me to mention, I could put that up there on town website.

[1:21:07] I don't know if you want to mention your meeting hours.

[1:21:11] Oh, yes. I don't have it. I have to look at it.

[1:21:18] Scheduled some office hours. The first two sessions have been scheduled.

[1:21:23] They'll be at the Mattapoisett Library, the public library.

[1:21:29] They're going to be publicized further, but just to say them aloud,

[1:21:35] one will be October 7th from 10:00 to noon, and one will be

[1:21:41] October 22nd from 10:00 to noon. So those are the first two, and as they're set up.

[1:21:46] What are you looking to accomplish at these meetings?

[1:21:49] If anyone has some concerns or ideas for us and can't make a meeting,

[1:21:56] doesn't have my email address or phone number, just prefers to stop

[1:22:01] in in person, then they're just

[1:22:05] there for anyone and for any matter that anybody might like to discuss.

[1:22:10] So yeah, I'm excited.

[1:22:17] I want to say something about the Fathers of the Revolution.

[1:22:21] Oh, yeah.

[1:22:22] If I could real quick.

[1:22:22] Yeah.

[1:22:24] Yeah.

[1:22:24] Attended the celebration at the Hammond Cemetery

[1:22:29] on Saturday, and I have to say, I was super proud of the work that you did, Ray,

[1:22:34] and I hope that you're very, very proud.

[1:22:36] It's a team effort. It's a team effort.

[1:22:38] It was.

[1:22:39] We have a great board.

[1:22:39] It was.

[1:22:40] Nice.

[1:22:40] But it was impossible to walk through the town hall for months without bumping into

[1:22:44] you.

[1:22:46] And, I know you worked really hard to get everything done.

[1:22:49] That's all right.

[1:22:50] Bob, I know you were a big part of that as well, so thank you, and anyone else who

[1:22:54] attended. I was just, like I said, proud to be, a Mattapoisettan that day, and

[1:23:01] Keating came, Mark Silvia came, Representative Silvia, and it was a

[1:23:07] great event. And if you haven't been, I have to say, I've not

[1:23:12] historically been a visitor of cemeteries for pleasure, but I have to say,

[1:23:18] the stones that have been refurbished, those stones could be your

[1:23:24] countertops of marble. It's just stunning, the work that has been done to refurbish

[1:23:29] those stones. Some people I talked to had no idea that we had Revolutionary

[1:23:35] War soldiers buried in town. So I thought that was a great history lesson

[1:23:41] as well. So I just wanted to say a public thank you for what you did, and it was

[1:23:46] exceptional.

[1:23:47] Okay.

[1:23:47] That leads into what I was going to say, is I just wanted to thank everybody for

[1:23:53] all their help with this. It was a phenomenal event.

[1:23:56] Mm-hmm.

[1:23:58] And I'd just like to thank Sarah Landry from the Council on Aging.

[1:24:02] She coordinated tremendously between the housing authority

[1:24:07] and any of the seniors in town. I wanted to make sure that everybody was included

[1:24:11] in it, and Sarah made sure that they had vans.

[1:24:15] They stopped by the housing authority. They picked people up over there.

[1:24:20] We had a bus over at Old Havens Hammon Top School, so there was continuous

[1:24:24] rotation. We didn't have a lot of traffic congestion over there, and the

[1:24:29] event just went phenomenal. And-

[1:24:33] That's great.

[1:24:33] We actually have the

[1:24:38] video from ORI Cable TV, came out today. I sent it to Katie.

[1:24:43] Hopefully, she can-

[1:24:44] Perfect

[1:24:44] ... she can load it up on the town website.

[1:24:46] I also was talking to Mike about maybe we can put a little something up here at the

[1:24:51] town hall. And I can get my laptop here and just put it on a loop, and any of the

[1:24:56] people that we have.

[1:24:59] There's a flag that Bill Keating gave us that had been flown in the Capitol for the

[1:25:03] 250th, so we have that. We have citations or testimonials from

[1:25:10] the governor, from Bill Keating, and also from-

[1:25:14] The house

[1:25:15] ... Mark Silvia in the house. So he has those being framed,

[1:25:21] and we talked about also, he's talking about putting up some type of case along the

[1:25:26] wall, and that alcove as we come in, so we can take a lot of the things that we

[1:25:31] have here in town and put them out so people know what we have.

[1:25:36] Nice.

[1:25:37] I counted about 135 people, but I think I missed some, because that was-

[1:25:41] Yeah, we did like 150.

[1:25:44] Yeah, that's great.

[1:25:44] We figured, we arranged it by chairs,

[1:25:49] under the tent so we would know how many people we had.

[1:25:52] And PSYO did, Sons of the American Revolution, did a phenomenal job over there

[1:25:57] also.

[1:25:58] Great.

[1:25:58] We haven't put the plaque back up. We're kind of holding off, waiting to put it in

[1:26:04] a more permanent position. But we wanted to visually have it in line so that people

[1:26:10] could enjoy it during the summer.

[1:26:12] Yeah. Well, thank you again.

[1:26:13] Thank you.

[1:26:17] Okay, motion to adjourn.

[1:26:19] Motion to adjourn.

[1:26:20] Oh, wait. Sorry.

[1:26:21] Sorry.

[1:26:21] Press. Any questions?

[1:26:26] Anybody on Zoom?

[1:26:31] Jean.

[1:26:31] She's doing something. Nope, all good.

[1:26:33] She's good.

[1:26:33] Okay. Good.

[1:26:35] Motion to adjourn.

[1:26:36] Second. Get a motion and second. All in favor? Aye.

[1:26:39] Aye.

[1:26:54] That's it.

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