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[38:02] amanda.

[38:03] Amanda.

[38:03] >>chair, carina vinh lieu: good

[38:04] morning looks like we have

[38:05] quorum. We're going to get

[38:08] ready to start. Love all the

[38:09] chatter. Happy friday.

[38:11] Everyone feels like a friday

[38:14] doesn't it? So to begin this

[38:15] meeting is being webcast on the

[38:17] mtc and abag websites committee

[38:18] members and members of the

[38:20] public participating by zoom

[38:22] wishing to speak should use the

[38:25] raised hand feature or dial star

[38:28] nine and you will call upon you

[38:29] at the appropriate time.

[38:31] Members of the public

[38:32] participating by zoom who would

[38:35] like to give public comment on

[38:36] any agenda item MAY use the

[38:38] raised hand feature or dial star

[38:39] nine. Members of the public in

[38:41] the boardroom should form a line

[38:43] near the podium. The clerk will

[38:46] call upon you to speak. Roll

[38:48] call vote will be conducted for

[38:50] agenda action items because of

[38:51] remote teleconference

[38:52] participation. I would like to

[38:54] call this regular meeting of the

[38:55] mtc abag community advisory

[38:59] couple to order. Will the clerk

[39:02] call the roll? Confirm quorum?

[39:04] >>clerk, jessica lewis: chair

[39:04] lieu?

[39:05] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[39:05] present.

[39:06] >>clerk, jessica lewis: vice

[39:07] chair benitez?

[39:08] >>v. Chair, diana benitez:

[39:08] present.

[39:09] >>clerk, jessica lewis: madrid,

[39:12] we'll come back. Member chang?

[39:19] Is absent. Duong?

[39:25] >>bryant duong: present.

[39:31] >>clerk, jessica lewis: lavery?

[39:32] Cantrell? We'll come back to

[39:37] member hankerson we'll come back

[39:46] to --

[39:49] member orantes?

[39:51] >>gabriela yamilet orantes:

[39:53] present.

[39:55] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[39:57] trachtenberg?

[39:57] >>gaetano trachtenberg:

[39:58] present.

[39:58] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[40:03] saunders? Gerasimenko? Is

[40:05] absent. Nemsick?

[40:06] >>karen nemsick: present.

[40:11] >>clerk, jessica lewis: cha?

[40:13] >>kathleen cha: present.

[40:15] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[40:21] salazar? We'll come back.

[40:21] Baldini?

[40:22] >>michael baldini: present.

[40:25] >>clerk, jessica lewis: balaji?

[40:27] >>padma balaji: present.

[40:29] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[40:30] harshfield?

[40:31] >>peter saathodd-harshfield:

[40:33] present.

[40:35] >>clerk, jessica lewis: miles?

[40:36] >>r. Shay miles: present.

[40:37] >>clerk, jessica lewis: come

[40:48] back to shephard. Sbranti?

[40:50] >>speaker: present.

[40:52] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[40:55] kallins? Is absent. Quorum has

[40:56] been established.

[40:56] >>chair, carina vinh lieu: we

[40:59] have several members requesting

[41:01] remote participation.

[41:08] >>speaker:

[41:09] >>speaker: hi everyone good

[41:10] morning I'm requesting remote

[41:13] participation pursuant to the

[41:15] brown act there isn't anyone

[41:18] age 18 or older in the room with

[41:18] me.

[41:19] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[41:21] thank you council member.

[41:23] Request for remote participation

[41:24] from chuck cantrell.

[41:25] >>chuck cantrell: good morning

[41:26] I'm requesting remote

[41:28] participation pursuant to the

[41:30] brown act and there isn't anyone

[41:33] in the room older than 18 with

[41:34] me.

[41:35] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[41:36] thank you. Council member miles

[41:40] we have a request for remote

[41:41] participation.

[41:44] >>r. Shay miles: hi council

[41:47] member r. Shay miles I'm

[41:48] requesting remote participation

[41:50] pursuant to the brown act.

[41:52] There isn't anyone age 18 or

[41:54] older in the room with me.

[41:56] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[41:57] thank you. Council member

[41:58] salazar?

[41:58] >>marlene salazar: good morning

[42:01] everybody I'm requesting remote

[42:02] participation pursuant to the

[42:03] brown act there isn't anyone age

[42:06] 18 or older in the room with me.

[42:07] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[42:08] thank you council member. We

[42:11] also have a request for remote

[42:12] participation from council

[42:15] member dwayne hankerson.

[42:17] >>dwayne hankerson: I don't

[42:19] have a script but I'm requesting

[42:20] remote participating pursuant to

[42:21] the brown act and there is no

[42:23] one in the room over 18 with me.

[42:24] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[42:25] thank you council member. And

[42:27] we have another request for

[42:28] remote participation from

[42:29] council member mirante.

[42:30] Hirudinea hirudinea hey

[42:33] everyone. Sorry I'm late. I'm

[42:34] requesting remote participation

[42:35] pursuant to the brown act.

[42:37] There is no one over the age of

[42:38] 18 in the room with me.

[42:39] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[42:39] thank you council members. Your

[42:41] requests are noted. You will

[42:45] all be marked as present. Will

[42:47] the clerk read the compensation

[42:47] announcement?

[42:48] >>clerk, jessica lewis: as

[42:50] authorized by state law, I'm

[42:52] making the following

[42:54] announcement. Each member of

[42:56] the mtc abag community advisory

[42:57] council here today will be

[42:59] entitled to receive $100 per

[43:01] meeting attended up to maximum

[43:03] of 500 per month per agency.

[43:04] This amount is provided as a

[43:07] result of convening a meeting of

[43:08] which each member is entitled to

[43:12] collect such amount.

[43:13] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[43:14] thank you, MADAM Clerk. Would

[43:16] you like to use this opportunity

[43:18] to just mention, like, anything

[43:21] about the updated process with

[43:22] stipends or travel

[43:24] reimbursements? Just for

[43:26] everyone to be clear on the

[43:27] process?

[43:28] >>clerk, jessica lewis: yes,

[43:29] chair.

[43:31] We have the reimbursement forms

[43:34] over by the name plates. So, if

[43:35] you have any bridge toll

[43:36] receipts please e-mail them to

[43:40] me, or if you have -- well, yes,

[43:42] e-mail them to me, and if you're

[43:44] parking and you have the receipt

[43:45] in-person you can provide them

[43:47] to me directly or you can scan

[43:48] them and e-mail them to me as

[43:51] well. And also for stipends I

[43:52] mark everyone that's present

[43:54] then provide that to accounting

[43:58] so no need to put that on the

[43:59] reimbursement form I will mark

[44:00] everybody that's present and

[44:02] provide that to accounting and

[44:04] from there they will issue the

[44:04] stipends.

[44:05] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[44:07] thank you so much. We'll move

[44:09] on to agenda item two which is

[44:10] for council members to make

[44:11] announcements. I want to

[44:13] mention that this is a great

[44:15] opportunity for any of our

[44:18] council members in on your

[44:19] geographic region to share

[44:20] activities that are going on in

[44:23] your region and news. So, I

[44:24] encourage everyone to share and

[44:26] speak up. Because your

[44:27] contribution is really valuable.

[44:29] And we like to hear what's going

[44:33] on in your area. So, are there

[44:35] any announcements from council

[44:41] members? I see member cushman,

[44:47] member mensic, and member

[44:50] benitez. I'll start with member

[44:51] cushman.

[44:52] >>warren cushman: sounds like

[45:00] I'm on. Yes, I am. I want to

[45:01] announce that my agency

[45:02] community resources for

[45:04] independent living has a

[45:06] fundraisinger on SEPTEMBER 26th

[45:07] which is saturday afternoon

[45:10] between 12 and 3. If anyone is

[45:13] interested can go up on our

[45:16] website and find donations pages

[45:19] for sponsorships and there are

[45:20] sponsorships if you're

[45:21] interested in coming. The

[45:25] tickets are $15. And again it's

[45:28] kril hayward, and hayward

[45:33] offices are at 439, 8th street

[45:34] in hayward on saturday

[45:36] SEPTEMBER 26th. And I will be

[45:38] there. So come on down and have

[45:40] some fun. Thank you.

[45:40] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[45:42] thank you member cushman.

[45:43] Member nemsick.

[45:46] >>karen nemsick: yeah, I wanted

[45:49] to say that the united way area

[45:50] joining with the bar association

[45:53] of san francisco is holding a

[45:54] community screening in two weeks

[45:56] on SEPTEMBER 14th at the mission

[46:00] bay campus ucsf mission bay

[46:03] campus auditorium this is a

[46:05] screening of the

[46:07] documentary "beyond the bridge."

[46:09] this is a solution to

[46:11] homelessness type of

[46:11] documentary, we're really

[46:14] excited about it we have 26 of

[46:15] the bay area of san francisco

[46:17] housing and homelessness

[46:18] organizations hosting this with

[46:21] us so it's free. But you do

[46:22] need to register so come find me

[46:25] and I will send you an

[46:28] invitation. So you can register

[46:29] SEPTEMBER 14th.

[46:29] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[46:31] thank you member nemsick.

[46:32] Apologies for mispropsing your

[46:35] name that second time. Council

[46:36] member benitez?

[46:37] >>v. Chair, diana benitez: yes,

[46:40] I want to share a quick update

[46:42] and I know ky-nam will give more

[46:44] information but a few weeks ago

[46:47] we had our first cbo partnership

[46:49] exchange where a whole bunch of

[46:50] agencies or things connected

[46:52] here to this building came

[46:55] together as well as over 50

[46:57] participants from different

[47:00] cbo's and non-profit from across

[47:02] the bay area and it was really

[47:03] cool and I want to encourage us

[47:06] all for future events to join in

[47:08] and network and I know ky-nam

[47:09] will share more information but

[47:11] it was great and I'm excited

[47:13] that we're continuing this work

[47:16] and I know I see folks from the

[47:18] public participation team so

[47:21] thank you.

[47:23] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[47:25] thank you member benitez.

[47:27] Member trachtenberg.

[47:28] >>gaetano trachtenberg: yeah I

[47:30] want to share briefly about the

[47:32] upcoming all hands regional

[47:34] convenience have we talked about

[47:36] the regional housing stakeholder

[47:39] committee here yet at this body?

[47:40] No? Okay. Well this is a

[47:42] regional convening that is

[47:44] happening, sort of, in parallel

[47:46] to the formal process at abag

[47:48] mtc to help inform a potential

[47:50] regional housing measure as

[47:53] early as 2028 there is a number

[47:55] of us on the council whose

[47:56] organizations are involved so I

[47:58] wont get into all the details

[47:59] but this is around the

[48:00] possibility of a future bahfa

[48:03] measure so there is a couple of

[48:05] upcoming meetings that are

[48:07] happening one in south bay on

[48:11] friday SEPTEMBER 25th from 10 to

[48:14] 12 and another east bay friday

[48:17] OCTOBER 9th from 2:30 to five.

[48:20] I can send that information out

[48:21] and these are opportunity for

[48:23] anyone to come and provide input

[48:25] about what you would like to see

[48:28] in the future housing measure.

[48:28] Thank you.

[48:29] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[48:33] thank you so much member

[48:33] trachtenberg.

[48:34] Member wong?

[48:36] >>janelle wong: thank you I

[48:37] want to make an announcement to

[48:39] everyone that SEPTEMBER is

[48:42] transit month and mtc is a

[48:45] sponsor of the month it happens

[48:46] in all nine counties and there

[48:48] is to knows of a beingtivities

[48:49] in all of the counties so go and

[48:51] look locally and see if there is

[48:53] any fun transit related happy

[48:55] hours or ride-a-long or others

[48:57] activities happening to

[48:58] celebrate transit all agencies

[49:01] are participating so that's

[49:02] wonderful in our county I want

[49:05] to plug the muni heritage so if

[49:07] you have never seen locally here

[49:09] in san francisco muni heritage

[49:11] weekend that's a wonderful

[49:12] weekend to see the vintage buses

[49:15] and cars here in san francisco.

[49:16] Happy transit month everybody.

[49:16] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[49:18] thank you member wong. Are

[49:21] there other council members?

[49:23] Baldini?

[49:23] >>michael baldini: good

[49:25] morning. Thank you chair. My

[49:28] commute here this morning again

[49:30] 208 car automobiles and trucks

[49:31] passed me that were in the

[49:33] commute lane that I counted and

[49:35] I'm not a traffic enforcement

[49:39] just a note and I do have a

[49:41] counter in the car 181 were in

[49:43] violation meaning they only had

[49:47] one person in the vehicle out of

[49:51] 208 a small% that was from the

[49:53] carquinez bridge to ashby

[49:54] overpass on interstate 80 cars

[49:56] that passed me. Thank you.

[49:57] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[49:58] thank you member baldini. If

[50:00] there are no other announcements

[50:02] from other council members I

[50:04] have one announcement that is

[50:06] just to congratulate member

[50:07] benitez she is going to be

[50:09] receiving an award for emerging

[50:11] planner for the apa northern

[50:14] california chapter this month.

[50:16] Congratulations member benitez.

[50:18] All right. Will the clerk

[50:20] inform us of public comments

[50:21] submitted for this item or

[50:22] whether there are members of the

[50:24] public who wish to give public

[50:24] comment.

[50:25] >>clerk, jessica lewis: we

[50:26] received no public comments for

[50:27] it this item there are no

[50:29] speakers at the podium and no

[50:31] speakers in the zoom space

[50:31] requesting to provide public

[50:32] comment.

[50:32] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[50:33] thank you so much. Next I move

[50:34] to agenda item three, which is

[50:37] the chair's report. And this is

[50:40] just an information item. I

[50:42] want to, again, welcome all of

[50:44] our colleagues to this meeting's

[50:46] -- this morning's meeting.

[50:48] Additionally, I just want to

[50:49] thank everyone for their

[50:51] continued presence and

[50:53] engagement. I think learning

[50:56] about mtc MAY feel like a

[50:58] waterfall of information, and

[51:01] all the work it takes to figure

[51:04] out how this place works and all

[51:06] the information to enable you to

[51:07] meaningfully engage with this

[51:09] body is just a lot. So, I want

[51:10] to thank you all for your

[51:12] continued service on this body

[51:13] as well as your patience and

[51:14] grace. I also want to

[51:16] acknowledge staff. I think that

[51:18] you all have been very

[51:19] responsive to the questions and

[51:21] concerns raised on this dais.

[51:24] And I'm really happy that we get

[51:27] to work together this time. And

[51:29] ky-nam, I want to commend you

[51:35] for a really great staff liaison

[51:37] report. It's very thorough so

[51:40] lots of updates in there. Great

[51:41] information. Thank you so much

[51:43] for that. And jessica I'm not

[51:45] sure that I have thanked you and

[51:47] welcomed on you to this board.

[51:48] But thanks for coming in in the

[51:50] middle of our term and getting

[51:53] things going and keeping things

[51:54] really smooth. Appreciate you.

[51:58] Then on that note, also knowing

[52:01] that this body can have a lot of

[52:02] information, I want to just

[52:04] remind us to participate, so if

[52:07] anything is unclear, or if

[52:08] information is new, I don't

[52:10] think there is any silly

[52:11] questions. I encourage everyone

[52:14] to keep asking questions for

[52:15] clarification. One thing our

[52:17] former clerk martha said that I

[52:19] still remember is you're on this

[52:20] council for your mind and how

[52:23] your mind thinks. So, please to

[52:25] not hesitate to bring all of

[52:27] your mind and all the questions

[52:28] and the ways that your mind

[52:30] works into this council to

[52:32] better this council.

[52:36] There are a couple upcoming

[52:39] opportunities that I want to

[52:41] mention. So, there has been

[52:43] talk on this council about an

[52:46] opportunity to meet our abag

[52:46] executive board members and our

[52:48] mtc commissioners. And so there

[52:51] will be an upcoming opportunity

[52:54] for us to do that on

[52:56] OCTOBER 29th. There is a

[53:04] breakfast convening that will be

[53:05] held here at the bay area metro

[53:05] center. There will be breakfast

[53:09] scheduled for 9:00 A.M.

[53:17] Interested council members

[53:18] should rsvp to the clerk,

[53:18] jessica. There will be

[53:18] opportunities after -- so, the

[53:18] breakfast, you can network with

[53:20] all of the board members and the

[53:22] executive members. And then

[53:23] there will be opportunity to

[53:24] stay and observe the workshop,

[53:27] which will focus on kicking off

[53:29] the planned bay area 2060. And

[53:32] there will be lots of, like,

[53:34] local experts who can kind of

[53:34] share information that will

[53:37] inform the plan. So, it's a

[53:38] really great opportunity to get

[53:39] the same information as the

[53:42] board, as well as network. So,

[53:44] I think staff will be sending

[53:47] out more information about that,

[53:55] as well.

[53:55] And then I -- I also want to

[53:55] mention that the accessible

[53:55] futures report will be released

[53:57] quite soon. I think staff will

[53:59] be e-mailing that out to

[54:01] everyone. And staff has also

[54:03] identified someone to come and

[54:06] present at a future meeting.

[54:08] So, that will be coming up soon.

[54:09] I think we're looking at maybe

[54:11] two or three meetings out from

[54:13] today.

[54:15] Also, we have been talking about

[54:18] housing as a topic, and there is

[54:20] also a housing presenter who has

[54:21] been identified, who will be

[54:24] coming to the council to present

[54:26] about housing.

[54:31] And then, as far as, like, an

[54:35] opportunity to participate at an

[54:38] -- committee level, or to be

[54:41] volunteer to be on an advisory

[54:41] group, there will be

[54:43] opportunities next spring. If

[54:44] that's something you're

[54:46] interested in, definitely feel

[54:48] free to reach out any time

[54:51] between now and DECEMBER. So

[54:53] just let me or vice chair

[54:54] benitez know about your

[54:55] interest.

[54:57] And then, finally, with the

[54:58] equity priority communities, the

[54:59] staff has also expressed an

[55:02] interest in convening a small

[55:04] kitchen cabinet for members who

[55:05] are interested in working on

[55:06] equity priority communities.

[55:09] And, so, that would also convene

[55:11] early next spring. Again, if

[55:13] that's something you feel

[55:14] interested in, and you would

[55:19] like to participate in that, let

[55:22] both, or either of us know, vice

[55:24] chair benitez and myself, and we

[55:26] would be happy to coordinate

[55:27] that.

[55:29] So, this concludes the chair's

[55:31] report. Is there any council

[55:37] member discussion?

[55:49] Council member cushman?

[55:53] >>warren cushman: are we on?

[55:54] Okay. Just a quick question

[55:57] around accessible futures. You

[55:59] had said, chair lieu, that the

[56:00] staff is going to identify

[56:02] someone to present at some

[56:04] point, there has been some

[56:06] confusion around this in the

[56:09] community, so I'm wondering is

[56:10] there a consideration with staff

[56:12] and the chair and vice chair to

[56:15] also to some, sort of, kitchen

[56:16] cabinet or some, sort of,

[56:18] placeholder where the disability

[56:19] community on this council can

[56:20] interact with staff and others

[56:21] in the community around this.

[56:24] It's really important. I hope

[56:25] that is around consideration.

[56:27] Thank you.

[56:29] >>matt maloney: I can respond.

[56:32] Through the chair. Matt maloney

[56:34] deputy executive director metro

[56:35] planning and policy. I think we

[56:39] can bring that back, warren, and

[56:43] discuss. I think that's a good

[56:44] idea at this point in time.

[56:46] What we're trying to do first is

[56:48] to engage the advisory group

[56:51] that was assembled to help guide

[56:53] the first conference, the

[56:54] accessible futures conference,

[56:55] which I think you're a part of

[56:57] that, and so it's a small group

[57:01] of about ten or 12 folks. Sos I

[57:02] think the idea of moving forward

[57:04] right now is to start with that

[57:05] group. Kind of take a look at

[57:07] the report and discuss the

[57:08] report and make sure that the

[57:10] report is, sort of, hitting the

[57:12] right notes and I think moving

[57:14] forward from there I think we

[57:16] should consider how the council

[57:18] is involved in accessibility

[57:19] issues writ large and assembling

[57:21] a kitchen cabinet of members

[57:23] might be one way to do that, but

[57:25] I also suggest we think about

[57:27] what options there are.

[57:28] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[57:30] thank you, matt. Member

[57:31] hankerson, you have your hand

[57:32] up?

[57:34] >>dwayne hankerson: I wanted to

[57:37] ask a quick question. On some

[57:40] of the committees, will both the

[57:42] chair and vice chair recommend

[57:44] people and let them know that

[57:45] they want them to be a part of

[57:46] that committee?

[57:47] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[57:47] thanks for the question. I

[57:48] think the process we're going to

[57:51] look at is, one, we're going to

[57:52] look at the whole council. And

[57:53] if there is somebody who is

[57:55] already on a body, like, for

[57:56] example, regional network

[57:58] management is a body that we

[58:00] have already pointed people to,

[58:02] then we might look at the whole

[58:03] and say, if you are interested

[58:04] in moving off of that committee

[58:07] and joining a different one, we

[58:09] could, you know, look at that.

[58:11] So, the idea that we would want

[58:12] to balance the participation of

[58:14] all council members on the

[58:16] different committees and give as

[58:18] many people an opportunity as

[58:20] possible to participate. So,

[58:23] the idea is if you let us know

[58:26] -- the sooner you let us know,

[58:28] we can kind of get, like, a

[58:30] picture of what people are

[58:32] interested in. We also balance

[58:34] geography and the interest

[58:36] groups that people represent on

[58:39] the different bodies just to

[58:43] make sure that all the

[58:45] perspectives represent on the

[58:47] bodies are balanced in those

[58:49] ways as well.

[58:50] >>dwayne hankerson: one of the

[58:51] reasons I asked the question is

[58:54] because all the committees need

[58:56] to be manned. And some of us,

[58:57] like, have our schedules so that

[59:00] we can attend the meetings. But

[59:03] that was really the reason I

[59:04] askeds are because -- thank you.

[59:05] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[59:06] thank you for the question. I

[59:08] think that's a fair point,

[59:09] especially since some of these

[59:12] MAY not convene until early

[59:18] spring. It's -- we're -- it's a

[59:22] heads up, hi, there maybe some

[59:23] committee opportunities to

[59:25] participate and then I think

[59:26] once more information comes

[59:27] about timing we can share with

[59:30] people. I think as far as I

[59:33] know, the epc subcommittee would

[59:35] meet perhaps once a month for a

[59:37] couple months in 2027. And then

[59:39] not too sure about how the

[59:40] delegates to the housing groups

[59:42] would work, but once we have

[59:43] more information, we'll

[59:45] definitely share back out for

[59:47] transparency sake. We

[59:49] definitely want people to make

[59:51] an informed decision. All

[59:53] right. Any other council

[59:57] members with comments? Okay.

[59:59] Will the clerk let us know if

[1:00:00] there is any public comments

[1:00:02] submitted for this item? Or

[1:00:03] whether any members of the

[1:00:05] public would like to provide

[1:00:08] public comment?

[1:00:08] >>clerk, jessica lewis: we

[1:00:10] received no written public

[1:00:11] comments in item. There are no

[1:00:14] speakers at the podium and no

[1:00:16] raised hands in the zoom space

[1:00:17] requesting to provide public

[1:00:17] comment.

[1:00:18] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:00:19] thank you. We'll move on to

[1:00:20] agenda item four, which is the

[1:00:22] consent calendar. This is an

[1:00:25] mtc abag community advisory

[1:00:27] council action item. And this

[1:00:29] includes the approval of our

[1:00:31] minutes from our AUGUST 7th

[1:00:33] meeting. Do I have a motion and

[1:00:40] a second to approve the consent

[1:00:41] calendar?

[1:00:43] >>speaker: move to approve.

[1:00:46] >>michael baldini: baldini

[1:00:46] seconds.

[1:00:47] >>chair, carina vinh lieu: who

[1:00:49] moved it?

[1:00:51] >>joshua saunders: josh.

[1:00:51] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:00:53] member saunders made the motion

[1:00:55] seconded by member baldini. Is

[1:00:56] there any council member

[1:00:59] discussion? Okay seeing no hand

[1:01:00] raised. Will the clerk inform

[1:01:01] us if any public comments

[1:01:03] submitted for this item or

[1:01:04] whether there are members of the

[1:01:06] public who wish to give public

[1:01:07] comment?

[1:01:07] >>clerk, jessica lewis: we

[1:01:08] received no written public

[1:01:09] comments for this item there are

[1:01:12] no speakers at the podium and no

[1:01:14] raised hands in the zoom space

[1:01:16] requesting to provide public

[1:01:17] comment.

[1:01:17] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:01:20] thank you. Will you please

[1:01:21] conduct roll call vote.

[1:01:22] >>clerk, jessica lewis: motion

[1:01:25] by saunders second by baldini.

[1:01:26] Chair lieu?

[1:01:27] >>chair, carina vinh lieu: yes.

[1:01:27] >>clerk, jessica lewis: vice

[1:01:29] chair benitez?

[1:01:30] >>v. Chair, diana benitez: yes.

[1:01:30] >>clerk, jessica lewis: madrid

[1:01:34] is absent. Chang is absent.

[1:01:37] Madrid?

[1:01:38] >>alexander madrid: yes.

[1:01:41] >>clerk, jessica lewis: duong?

[1:01:44] >>bryant duong: yes.

[1:01:45] >>clerk, jessica lewis: lavery?

[1:01:48] Cantrell? Hankerson?

[1:01:49] >>dwayne hankerson: I abstain.

[1:01:52] I wasn't here.

[1:01:53] >>clerk, jessica lewis: member

[1:01:55] orantes?

[1:01:56] >>gabriela yamilet orantes:

[1:01:56] yes.

[1:01:57] >>clerk, jessica lewis: tract

[1:01:57] app berg?

[1:01:58] >>gaetano trachtenberg: yes.

[1:02:00] >>clerk, jessica lewis: wong?

[1:02:01] >>janelle wong: yes.

[1:02:03] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[1:02:04] saunders?

[1:02:08] >>joshua saunders: yes.

[1:02:09] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[1:02:11] gerasimenko? Is absent.

[1:02:12] Nemsick?

[1:02:14] >>karen nemsick: yes.

[1:02:17] >>clerk, jessica lewis: cha?

[1:02:17] >>kathleen cha: yes.

[1:02:18] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[1:02:19] mirante?

[1:02:20] >>louis mirante: yes.

[1:02:21] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[1:02:22] salazar?

[1:02:22] >>marlene salazar: yes.

[1:02:24] >>clerk, jessica lewis: member

[1:02:25] baldini?

[1:02:26] >>michael baldini: yes.

[1:02:28] >>clerk, jessica lewis: member

[1:02:29] balaji?

[1:02:30] >>padma balaji: yes.

[1:02:33] >>clerk, jessica lewis: member

[1:02:36] sat of harshfield?

[1:02:37] >>peter saathodd-harshfield:

[1:02:37] yes.

[1:02:38] >>clerk, jessica lewis: r. Shay

[1:02:39] miles?

[1:02:40] >>r. Shay miles: yes.

[1:02:41] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[1:02:42] shephard?

[1:02:43] >>sonja shephard: yes.

[1:02:45] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[1:02:48] sbranti?

[1:02:49] >>speaker: yes.

[1:02:52] >>clerk, jessica lewis: arvelo?

[1:02:53] >>victorina arevelo: yes.

[1:02:54] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[1:02:54] cushman?

[1:02:55] >>warren cushman: yes.

[1:02:56] >>clerk, jessica lewis:

[1:02:58] kallins? Is absent. With one

[1:03:00] abstention, the motion passes.

[1:03:01] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:03:02] thank you so much. We'll now

[1:03:05] move on to agenda item 5a, which

[1:03:07] is planned bay area 2060,

[1:03:09] OCTOBER 2026 kickoff. This is

[1:03:12] an information item. I just

[1:03:13] want to mention for the council,

[1:03:18] we -- because we are in the kind

[1:03:22] of opportunity -- opportunist --

[1:03:23] opportunity -- wow -- in the

[1:03:24] phase where we have an

[1:03:26] opportunity to provide comment

[1:03:27] on the shaping of planned bay

[1:03:29] area 2060, we will continuously

[1:03:31] receive various updates on this

[1:03:33] topic. And so today we'll

[1:03:35] receive the report from staff

[1:03:37] member chirag rabari, and I'll

[1:03:46] turn it over to you. Thank you.

[1:03:48] >>chirag rabari: thank you

[1:03:49] chair lieu and good morning

[1:03:51] everyone. Chirag rabari I'm

[1:03:53] assistant director of major

[1:03:56] plans and mtc abag regional

[1:03:57] planning program. Last we came

[1:04:01] to this body in MAY to share key

[1:04:01] opportunities early and planning

[1:04:03] priorities identified for mtc

[1:04:06] abag's long range plan update.

[1:04:07] And the council had thoughtful

[1:04:08] discussion at that time. Since

[1:04:11] then parallel to the public

[1:04:12] participation plan update you're

[1:04:14] going to be hearing more about

[1:04:16] later we have been considering

[1:04:18] feedback from some of our more

[1:04:19] technical partners as well as

[1:04:23] our elected officials as we work

[1:04:25] to finalize a proposed scope.

[1:04:26] So consider this a preview of

[1:04:29] what we plan to share next month

[1:04:32] as part of the formal kickoff of

[1:04:33] planned bay area 2060 to be

[1:04:34] followed by first round of

[1:04:36] engagement and I will definitely

[1:04:37] endorse the chair comment you

[1:04:38] will be seeing our team a lot

[1:04:42] over the next few years. Next

[1:04:42] slide.

[1:04:44] Before we look too far ahead,

[1:04:47] it's worth a quick stop at our

[1:04:49] current long range plan, planned

[1:04:51] bay area 2050+ which was

[1:04:52] approved unanimously by mtc and

[1:04:54] abag just six months ago. On

[1:04:56] that front, we do have good news

[1:04:59] to share, which is that it has

[1:05:03] secured all of the approvals it

[1:05:05] needs to act as our approved

[1:05:08] long range plan. So that

[1:05:10] includes approval by our state

[1:05:13] partners, as well as federal

[1:05:15] partners, and it also passed

[1:05:17] through the ceqa challenge

[1:05:19] window without any lawsuits.

[1:05:21] So, although planned bay area

[1:05:23] 2050+ is now in the rear-view

[1:05:28] mirror as a process, it does and

[1:05:30] will remain our currently

[1:05:32] adopted long range plan through

[1:05:33] the year 2030 and as such will

[1:05:37] be the focus and benchmark for

[1:05:40] mtc abag's ongoing

[1:05:42] implementation efforts. Next

[1:05:45] slide. As we have been working

[1:05:46] to scope planned bay area 2060

[1:05:48] over the last several months we

[1:05:53] have been guided by what I might

[1:05:58] characterize as these statement

[1:06:00] or commitment for this plan

[1:06:03] update which is really about

[1:06:04] finding balance specifically

[1:06:07] between a plan that is

[1:06:09] constrained and grounded in some

[1:06:12] of the key challenges and

[1:06:14] realities where we are today

[1:06:16] what we can realistically

[1:06:17] accomplish in the near-term

[1:06:19] while remaining appropriately

[1:06:20] ambitious and visionary about

[1:06:22] where we want to be as a region

[1:06:24] in the future and this means

[1:06:26] working to develop a plan that

[1:06:29] respond to the intersection of

[1:06:30] pressing issues whether

[1:06:31] affordability public health

[1:06:33] economic opportunity ongoing

[1:06:34] financial challenges key trends

[1:06:37] whether automation or ai, best

[1:06:38] practices across the field

[1:06:40] addressing core regulatory

[1:06:41] requirements and whether

[1:06:44] achieving our climate target or

[1:06:46] accommodating future growth at

[1:06:48] all income levels as well as

[1:06:49] furthering towards a shared

[1:06:51] vision for the year 2060. Next

[1:06:51] slide.

[1:06:53] In terms of some of the feedback

[1:06:55] during the early scoping process

[1:06:58] I want to emphasize we heard a

[1:07:03] lot on the side synthesizing

[1:07:04] messages that came up in various

[1:07:07] different context briefly this

[1:07:08] includes transportation safety

[1:07:09] that topic came up a lot

[1:07:11] particularly in context of

[1:07:13] children and areas around

[1:07:14] schools as well as safety and

[1:07:15] accessibility of our

[1:07:16] transportation system for

[1:07:18] elderly as well as with people

[1:07:19] with disabilities in terms of

[1:07:22] land use and housing there was a

[1:07:24] lot of interest in exploring how

[1:07:26] the region can grow in a way

[1:07:30] that balance equity access,

[1:07:31] opportunity, regional dinism,

[1:07:33] and climate considerations as

[1:07:35] well as resilience to issues

[1:07:37] like wildfire, I think about

[1:07:39] some of the fiscal challenges

[1:07:40] that the region is facing

[1:07:43] leaning into the scenario

[1:07:46] planning as a means to weigh

[1:07:47] tradeoffs and explore

[1:07:49] alternatives and we heard a lot

[1:07:51] about the need to enhance our

[1:07:52] engagement with key partners

[1:07:54] including this body and we'll

[1:07:56] talk more about that a bit

[1:07:58] later. And then emphasizing

[1:07:59] implementation this has been

[1:08:04] ongoing area of focus for us but

[1:08:07] interest in deepening that focus

[1:08:09] in the long range plan. Next

[1:08:10] slide.

[1:08:11] related to the last point, there

[1:08:13] is a lot of interest in

[1:08:15] measuring our progress and doing

[1:08:17] more communications is

[1:08:19] storytelling around what has and

[1:08:21] has not worked through the last

[1:08:25] few plan cycles, as we delve

[1:08:27] into environmental issues, sea

[1:08:28] level rise continues to be a

[1:08:30] topic of interest, including how

[1:08:31] our regional efforts can align

[1:08:39] with local planning. Anden

[1:08:41] then we heard various different

[1:08:43] voices on the issue of adapting

[1:08:45] the region to future sea level

[1:08:47] rise and how much that would

[1:08:48] cost to implement versus

[1:08:49] potentially exploring managed

[1:08:50] retreat. In the transit space,

[1:08:52] there is a lot of interest in

[1:08:54] highlighting the benefits of our

[1:08:56] regional transit system, while

[1:08:58] also considering how projects

[1:09:01] MAY be prioritized in a future

[1:09:03] with fewer resources and

[1:09:05] increased constraints.

[1:09:06] Certainly heard a lot about

[1:09:08] emerging issues like ai,

[1:09:11] automation, and e-bikes, and

[1:09:13] then, of course, very important

[1:09:16] and core to the plan are

[1:09:16] affordability, whether for

[1:09:18] housing or transportation, as

[1:09:21] well as retaining our region's

[1:09:22] diversity and ensuring

[1:09:24] opportunity for all.

[1:09:29] Next slide.

[1:09:32] So, this is a preliminary

[1:09:34] timeline for the plan, from now

[1:09:38] through early 2029. And I will

[1:09:40] talk more about the different

[1:09:40] phases of the plan on the

[1:09:42] subsequent slides, but I do want

[1:09:45] to highlight a few things. You

[1:09:47] know, first, engagement with

[1:09:50] both the public as well as our

[1:09:51] technical partners will be

[1:09:52] continuous throughout the plan

[1:09:55] process. But in general, we can

[1:09:56] expect engagement peaks to be

[1:09:59] happening around the spring and

[1:10:01] fall of every year.

[1:10:04] Through early 2029, you can

[1:10:06] expect at least five significant

[1:10:09] board level actions, including

[1:10:11] the adoption of our public

[1:10:13] participation plan later this

[1:10:16] month. The adoption of the

[1:10:18] plan's vision and fwiegd

[1:10:19] principles in approximately

[1:10:21] spring of 2027. The adoption of

[1:10:23] the regional growth forecast

[1:10:25] methodology in the fall of 2027,

[1:10:27] then the adoption of the plan's

[1:10:29] draft and final blueprint in

[1:10:33] early spring 2028, and spring

[1:10:34] 2029.

[1:10:35] Again, I'll talk more about

[1:10:38] these different phases, but I'll

[1:10:40] just briefly note that the

[1:10:41] foundations phase of the plan is

[1:10:42] kind of where we're starting

[1:10:44] right now, with that work

[1:10:45] expected to run through a good

[1:10:48] chunk of 2027. The outlook

[1:10:49] phase of the plan will run

[1:10:52] through later this year, all the

[1:10:55] way through 2027 as we then

[1:10:56] shift into the blueprint and

[1:11:00] final plan phases in 2028 and

[1:11:03] 2029. With final plan adoption

[1:11:06] anticipated for early 2030, and

[1:11:14] as the footnote says, this is an

[1:11:15] approximate schedule subject to

[1:11:16] change. Next slide.

[1:11:17] So the foundations phase of the

[1:11:19] plan is really about where we

[1:11:21] are right now, as a region,

[1:11:23] where do we want to go, and also

[1:11:24] where are we starting from in

[1:11:28] terms of our existing long range

[1:11:30] plan. So, core to that is our

[1:11:32] vision and guiding principles.

[1:11:33] If you all recall, planned bay

[1:11:35] area has an adopted vision of a

[1:11:37] region that is affordable,

[1:11:40] connected, diverse, healthy and

[1:11:41] vibrant for all by the year

[1:11:43] 2050. And we want to see

[1:11:44] whether, you know, that vision

[1:11:47] still resonates, or maybe should

[1:11:47] evolve.

[1:11:51] We also have, you know, an

[1:11:52] existing set of 35 strategies in

[1:11:55] our long range plan, as well as

[1:11:57] an existing land use framework,

[1:11:59] and really try to look at

[1:12:01] literature review and analysis

[1:12:03] to understand, again, you know,

[1:12:07] what -- what can we say we know

[1:12:09] about what has worked and not

[1:12:11] worked with these existing sects

[1:12:12] of the plan and how should they

[1:12:15] evolve. Next slide.

[1:12:17] The outlook phase of the plan is

[1:12:19] where we're looking ahead and

[1:12:21] working to develop the primary

[1:12:23] planning assumptions that are a

[1:12:25] core part of the plan, many of

[1:12:26] which are required by federal or

[1:12:28] state or other requirements.

[1:12:29] This includes our regional

[1:12:32] growth forecast of population,

[1:12:34] jobs, and households, our

[1:12:37] financial needs and revenue

[1:12:39] estimates, in terms of what

[1:12:41] funds are available to support

[1:12:43] implementation of the plan, as

[1:12:45] well as certain external forces

[1:12:46] that are outside of our direct

[1:12:49] control.

[1:12:50] Importantly, for this plan

[1:12:52] update, this is one of the main

[1:12:54] areas where we really want to

[1:12:56] lean in scenario planning,

[1:12:57] whether different growth

[1:12:58] scenarios, different funding

[1:13:00] scenarios, but also exploring

[1:13:02] certain key emerging issues,

[1:13:05] whether autonomous vehicles, sea

[1:13:07] level rise, remote work, or, you

[1:13:08] know, mode preferences for

[1:13:09] travel.

[1:13:14] Next slide.

[1:13:15] So, the blueprint phase of the

[1:13:20] man, I think this is, you know,

[1:13:23] important, especially for member

[1:13:25] who MAY be new, I really try to

[1:13:27] emphasize, that this is really

[1:13:29] the blueprint is the thing this

[1:13:31] is the core of the plan as a

[1:13:32] planning and policy document

[1:13:34] where different planning

[1:13:35] assumptions, the strategies

[1:13:37] including policies and

[1:13:38] investments, as well as

[1:13:39] associated analysis come

[1:13:42] together to see whether if

[1:13:43] implemented the plan will

[1:13:44] succeed at achieving its key

[1:13:47] targets and goals. So, I think

[1:13:48] as we think about those approval

[1:13:52] items, you know, spring 2028,

[1:13:54] and spring 2029, as those foe

[1:13:56] before the board, this is, you

[1:13:58] know, really the important thing

[1:14:00] that, sort of, sets the

[1:14:01] framework for how long range

[1:14:03] plan is going to move forward.

[1:14:05] So again that's where we

[1:14:07] anticipate leaning into our

[1:14:09] engagement and ensuring everyone

[1:14:11] gets multiple bytes at the apple

[1:14:13] before anything goes before our

[1:14:14] boards for consideration. Next

[1:14:15] slide.

[1:14:17] So, I would say that the draft

[1:14:19] and final plan, you know, this

[1:14:23] is really more of a regulatory

[1:14:25] and communications document.

[1:14:26] You know, this is where we are

[1:14:29] telling the story of the plan in

[1:14:33] a series of documents, as well

[1:14:34] as supplemental reports, that is

[1:14:38] then, you know, considered for

[1:14:39] adoption. It's also where we

[1:14:43] have to do a required ceqa

[1:14:46] process to analyze and disclose

[1:14:46] potentially significant

[1:14:47] environmental impacts of the

[1:14:49] plan. But importantly, this is

[1:14:51] also where we try to figure out

[1:14:54] how to translate these ambitious

[1:14:55] 30-year strategies into

[1:14:57] near-term actions that mtc and

[1:14:59] abag can implement over the next

[1:15:01] five years to implement the

[1:15:01] long-term vision of the plan.

[1:15:04] Next slide.

[1:15:06] So, you're going to hear a lot

[1:15:09] more about the public engagement

[1:15:11] in my colleague veronica's item

[1:15:13] coming up next. But just in

[1:15:16] terms of how we're approaching

[1:15:18] this for the scope of planned

[1:15:20] bay area, specifically,

[1:15:21] obviously creating different

[1:15:22] opportunities for residents,

[1:15:23] workers, and community partners

[1:15:26] to share their perspectives and

[1:15:28] insights, and there are kind of

[1:15:29] three key themes along

[1:15:31] highlights, which is depth over

[1:15:33] breadth, which I know has been

[1:15:35] an ongoing focus of this body in

[1:15:38] terms of emphasizing sustained

[1:15:39] conversations rather than, you

[1:15:42] know, just having these one-time

[1:15:44] efforts. And then on the far

[1:15:45] right, collaboration, elevating

[1:15:48] the role of our cbo partners, as

[1:15:50] we work to engage the region's

[1:15:53] diverse communities. I know,

[1:15:54] again, a long-standing priority

[1:15:56] of this body. In the middle, in

[1:15:59] terms of highlighting, you know,

[1:16:00] exploring new avenues, we're

[1:16:03] very interested in looking at

[1:16:05] gamification, short form video,

[1:16:06] innovative web content to make

[1:16:09] more engaging material for our

[1:16:11] different audiences. And you

[1:16:13] know, in the image in the

[1:16:15] middle, I'll direct -- it's kind

[1:16:19] of like a street grid, that's

[1:16:19] showing some different

[1:16:20] development as well as

[1:16:22] transportation and some green

[1:16:24] fields. And this is a

[1:16:25] screenshot of an actual game

[1:16:27] that has been developed by one

[1:16:29] of our mineta institute

[1:16:31] students, and we're really

[1:16:33] looking at, you know, different

[1:16:35] game options that these students

[1:16:36] have been developed to inform

[1:16:38] some of our scenario planning

[1:16:40] work that we expect to move

[1:16:42] forward next year. So, really

[1:16:44] excited about those types of

[1:16:45] collaboration opportunities.

[1:16:49] Next slide.

[1:16:51] You know, on the -- engaging

[1:16:53] with our more technical

[1:16:54] partners, you know, which does

[1:16:56] include this body, as well as

[1:16:58] our local jurisdictions, are

[1:17:00] transit operators, labor,

[1:17:03] business, cbo's, non-profits,

[1:17:05] you know, I think there are a

[1:17:07] few key themes we want to

[1:17:08] highlight which is, again,

[1:17:10] showing up. So, obviously

[1:17:11] meeting folks and elected

[1:17:12] officials where they are,

[1:17:14] through some of these existing

[1:17:16] networks and meetings. And also

[1:17:20] doing our traditional convenings

[1:17:22] where, you know, we do hold

[1:17:23] webinars, workshops, office

[1:17:25] hours, where we bring people

[1:17:27] together where they can be

[1:17:29] different partners can bring

[1:17:30] different perspectives together

[1:17:32] in the same environment together

[1:17:33] to discuss, share priorities and

[1:17:35] explore tradeoffs. And then

[1:17:36] something that we will make sure

[1:17:39] that you all get access to this.

[1:17:41] It will be an attachment in the

[1:17:44] OCTOBER kickoff item. We are

[1:17:45] developing what we're

[1:17:48] calling "coordination road maps:

[1:17:51] which is if you are a

[1:17:52] transportation stakeholders or

[1:17:54] environmental stakeholder, or

[1:17:56] housing stakeholder, how can you

[1:17:58] navigate this long and complex

[1:17:59] process. And I want to

[1:18:02] highlight for some of our newer

[1:18:03] members, we very much encourage

[1:18:05] council napgz all of the events

[1:18:07] that we convene. So if we're

[1:18:08] holding a workshop at the

[1:18:12] building, or we're doing a

[1:18:14] webinar, you know, we really

[1:18:15] support and hope that you all

[1:18:17] can be some of the voices at the

[1:18:18] table with some of these broader

[1:18:20] -- broader range of partners.

[1:18:23] next slide.

[1:18:24] So, do I want to highlight, you

[1:18:25] know, the plan does not take

[1:18:28] place in a vacuum. There are

[1:18:30] ongoing changes at the state and

[1:18:31] federal level that can impact

[1:18:35] how the plan is going to

[1:18:37] proceed. And this includes

[1:18:39] anticipated updates to the

[1:18:40] greenhouse gas emission

[1:18:41] reduction targets from the

[1:18:43] california air resources boards,

[1:18:45] as well as the associated

[1:18:47] guidelines. And we do

[1:18:50] anticipate those coming

[1:18:51] mid-cycle which could have

[1:18:53] impact on the plan. Senate bill

[1:18:55] 1087, which is the bill to

[1:18:58] modernize our existing long

[1:19:02] range plan framework of sb 375

[1:19:04] is currently on the governor's

[1:19:05] desk, if signed could have some

[1:19:07] significant impacts, and also

[1:19:10] assembly bill 2296 could shift

[1:19:12] timelines for the parallel rhna

[1:19:13] process. And at the federal

[1:19:14] level, I think everyone

[1:19:16] understands that the funding

[1:19:17] environment is quite uncertain

[1:19:18] there which could have

[1:19:19] meaningful impacts on the plan,

[1:19:23] and there are, you know, various

[1:19:24] rulemakings under way, or being

[1:19:26] considered on equity that,

[1:19:28] again, we MAY have to respond to

[1:19:28] if those move forward. Next

[1:19:32] slide.

[1:19:35] This is my last slide. Thank

[1:19:38] you for your patience as I wade

[1:19:40] through some dense materials.

[1:19:43] Some of the immediate next

[1:19:44] steps. The commission will

[1:19:45] consider adoption of the public

[1:19:46] participation plan later this

[1:19:48] month. We anticipate formally

[1:19:50] kicking off the plan at the mtc

[1:19:52] abag -- mtc planning and abag

[1:19:53] administrative committee meeting

[1:19:55] on OCTOBER 9th. The joint

[1:19:58] workshop is on OCTOBER 29th.

[1:20:01] and then we'll kickoff the first

[1:20:03] round of engagement on the plan

[1:20:05] with a particular focus on the

[1:20:06] plan's vision and guiding

[1:20:11] principles. So stay tuned for

[1:20:12] more on that. Then we

[1:20:14] anticipate coming back to the

[1:20:16] council as well as our

[1:20:19] committees for more detailed

[1:20:21] updates on the foundations and

[1:20:23] outlook phases of the work.

[1:20:24] That concludes my presentation.

[1:20:25] You know, always happy to answer

[1:20:27] any questions that you MAY have,

[1:20:28] and you know, just for

[1:20:30] consideration, we do have a

[1:20:31] couple of discussion questions,

[1:20:34] including which phases of the

[1:20:36] planned bay area process are of

[1:20:38] greatest interest to you, and

[1:20:39] whether you have any thoughts

[1:20:40] and perspectives on the proposed

[1:20:41] engagement approach that we

[1:20:45] highlighted. Thank you, again.

[1:20:46] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:20:47] thank you so much chirag. This

[1:20:50] was a really great presentation.

[1:20:51] And I just want to respond

[1:20:53] quickly and say, like, I really

[1:20:55] love the gaming option. It's

[1:21:02] like a dream to me, and I really

[1:21:04] lawful that our duong people are

[1:21:07] the ones taking the lead like

[1:21:10] help us reimagine and then so

[1:21:12] appreciate the naming that these

[1:21:14] documents are basically

[1:21:15] communication documents.

[1:21:16] They're opportunities for us to

[1:21:17] learn and digest the information

[1:21:19] this's going to guide our future

[1:21:21] and finally I want to underscore

[1:21:23] what you said about encouraging

[1:21:24] our council members to

[1:21:28] participate in convenings, I

[1:21:30] think that's very valuable and

[1:21:33] so I hope that we take his

[1:21:34] invitation to go and do that.

[1:21:36] Now I would like to see if there

[1:21:38] are council members who would

[1:21:41] like to participate in

[1:21:42] discussion, please raise your

[1:21:43] hands. Actually going to start

[1:21:47] on my right, council member

[1:21:49] wong, council member duong,

[1:21:50] council member trotten berg,

[1:21:52] council member baldini, council

[1:21:54] member saurnlds and council

[1:21:56] member cushman. I'll start with

[1:21:58] you council member wong.

[1:21:59] >>janelle wong: thank you so

[1:21:59] much for this presentation.

[1:22:01] This was good laying out the

[1:22:08] process and the plan. So that's

[1:22:09] one. My question although it's

[1:22:12] not the guiding questions in

[1:22:14] terms of preparing for emerging

[1:22:17] to tells, like ai automation and

[1:22:19] e-bikes, I'm curious as to why

[1:22:21] e-bikes autonomous vehicles were

[1:22:25] grouped together as an emerging

[1:22:25] technology. E likes have been

[1:22:28] around for a while and I know

[1:22:32] there is hot debated discussion

[1:22:35] about different versions of

[1:22:37] e-motos, versus e-bikes and I'm

[1:22:38] curious as to how we're going to

[1:22:40] approach that discussion in this

[1:22:43] plan in terms of infrastructure.

[1:22:44] >>chair, carina vinh lieu: go

[1:22:47] ahead and respond.

[1:22:48] >>chirag rabari: thank you for

[1:22:50] that I think the intention

[1:22:52] wasn't necessarily to

[1:22:53] communicate that these are, sort

[1:22:55] of, going together it's just

[1:22:58] these are kind of topics that we

[1:23:01] have heard and very much agree

[1:23:02] that they have distinct avenues

[1:23:04] for exploration. I will say the

[1:23:07] thing we have heard on e-bikes

[1:23:09] really maybe was more of that

[1:23:10] connection to the safety angle

[1:23:12] because there has been so much

[1:23:13] in the news recently about

[1:23:15] incidents involving duong folks.

[1:23:17] So I think it would probably be

[1:23:20] more with respect to thinking

[1:23:21] about our transportation safety

[1:23:24] strategies whereas you know

[1:23:28] automation is about future

[1:23:31] assumptions about ai adoption do

[1:23:33] we need strategies to help

[1:23:34] address some of those potential

[1:23:36] impact and I think ai writ large

[1:23:39] is kind of a big trajectory of

[1:23:40] the region. Particularly in

[1:23:43] terms of jobs and opportunities.

[1:23:44] So, they all get explored kind

[1:23:46] of through the appropriate plan

[1:23:47] phases. And I think as we

[1:23:49] develop those road maps, we can

[1:23:51] try to spell that out a little

[1:23:54] bit more, like, okay, if you're

[1:23:56] interested in this topic this is

[1:23:58] the phase and work stream that

[1:24:00] we would encourage you to follow

[1:24:03] closely.

[1:24:03] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:24:06] thank you. Next we have council

[1:24:08] member duong.

[1:24:09] >>bryant duong: thank you for

[1:24:12] the presentation. Foundations

[1:24:18] for me, is, settled -- but most

[1:24:21] decided. But one thing I would

[1:24:24] encourage us to keep front and

[1:24:26] center is implementation

[1:24:28] feasibility. In my community

[1:24:30] development work I see a gap

[1:24:31] sometimes between setting

[1:24:33] regional goals particularly as

[1:24:35] it relates to housing, and

[1:24:36] having ecosystem needed to

[1:24:38] actually deliver them, whether

[1:24:40] that's project pipeline,

[1:24:42] predevelopment resources,

[1:24:42] organizational capacity, or

[1:24:43] coordination across agencies and

[1:24:46] developers.

[1:24:49] Since the foundations and

[1:24:51] outlook phases will be

[1:24:53] revisiting the land use

[1:24:55] framework, evaluating existing

[1:24:56] strategies, and testing growth

[1:24:59] and fiscal assumptions, I think

[1:25:01] this could be a good point to

[1:25:03] make sure those strategies are

[1:25:05] grounded in what actually it

[1:25:07] takes to deliver housing. I

[1:25:09] would be especially interested

[1:25:12] in lessons about what has and

[1:25:15] hasn't worked in prior plans,

[1:25:17] what informed that analysis.

[1:25:19] Thank you.

[1:25:19] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:25:21] thank you council member duong.

[1:25:23] Was there a question -- was that

[1:25:24] question something you want a

[1:25:26] response for? Or was it more

[1:25:31] like a rhetorical, like, broader

[1:25:33] question?

[1:25:34] >>bryant duong: perhaps just a

[1:25:36] comment doesn't exactly get a

[1:25:36] response.

[1:25:37] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:25:39] okay. Thank you. Council

[1:25:41] member trachtenberg?

[1:25:41] >>gaetano trachtenberg: thank

[1:25:42] you staff for the presentation

[1:25:44] and the level-setting. It's

[1:25:45] very helpful. And I appreciate

[1:25:47] your comments, as well, council

[1:25:48] member.

[1:25:51] I really like the idea of these

[1:25:52] coordination road maps. That

[1:25:54] feels extremely helpful, and I

[1:25:55] was wondering if you could

[1:25:56] describe a little bit more

[1:25:57] about, you know, what you are

[1:26:00] imagining there, and when we

[1:26:01] might expect seeing some version

[1:26:05] of that, or another opportunity

[1:26:08] to engage and maybe provide

[1:26:13] feedback would be helpful to us.

[1:26:14] >>chirag rabari: yes, I think

[1:26:16] we're hoping to include maybe

[1:26:18] the first iteration of these

[1:26:22] road maps as part of our formal

[1:26:23] kick offer item next month, and

[1:26:25] we can ensure that council

[1:26:26] members receive a copy of that.

[1:26:28] I would just say briefly what it

[1:26:31] will try to do is, through a

[1:26:34] topic based lens, whether

[1:26:36] transportation, housing, land

[1:26:40] use growth, environmental

[1:26:40] resilience, sort of, highlight

[1:26:44] the big picture issues that, you

[1:26:50] know, those particular tracks of

[1:26:51] work are trying to address and

[1:26:52] then provide a detailed

[1:26:55] accounting of, like, which items

[1:26:57] will be coming forward, how it

[1:26:59] was likely to manifest in both

[1:27:01] public and partner engagement

[1:27:03] context. What some of the key

[1:27:06] expected deliverables and

[1:27:08] milestones will be for that --

[1:27:10] those topics, and then, you

[1:27:12] know, what are the kind of

[1:27:14] keyboard level decisions, and

[1:27:15] when. So, that way folks can,

[1:27:18] you know, if -- you were

[1:27:20] particularly interested in how

[1:27:23] we think about the performance

[1:27:26] of transportation strategies or

[1:27:28] projects, for example, you know,

[1:27:31] we're likely in the spring of

[1:27:33] 2027, putting forward, like, a

[1:27:35] draft methodology. We would be

[1:27:36] doing more analysis in the

[1:27:39] spring of 2028. So, I think it

[1:27:41] will hopefully just give folks a

[1:27:44] better sense of, like, okay,

[1:27:45] these are the things I care

[1:27:47] about and these are the things I

[1:27:51] should be paying attention and

[1:27:53] plugging in.

[1:27:53] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:27:55] thank you. I noticed that

[1:27:56] council member madrid just

[1:27:58] joined us online. Do we need to

[1:28:01] acknowledge? Or we can -- okay.

[1:28:03] Thank you.

[1:28:05] So we'll move on to the next

[1:28:07] member in the queue member

[1:28:08] baldini.

[1:28:09] >>michael baldini: yes good

[1:28:11] morning and thank you for the

[1:28:13] presentation. And your comment

[1:28:16] to my fellow council members,

[1:28:18] regarding the slide of looking

[1:28:20] at ambitious and visionary

[1:28:23] projects, as well as the

[1:28:27] benefits and the financial

[1:28:32] tradeoffs, and the project

[1:28:35] priorities. Then again, as I

[1:28:36] have participated somewhat over

[1:28:38] the past few years, you're

[1:28:40] looking at what seems to be

[1:28:44] moving ahead without regard to

[1:28:47] any, sort of -- and I'm reminded

[1:28:50] of the conversation between

[1:28:53] admiral kirk and spock in the

[1:28:55] dying moments in the needs of

[1:28:58] the -- many outweigh the needs

[1:29:00] of the few or the one. And

[1:29:03] that's now how we look at the

[1:29:06] disabled population, or even the

[1:29:08] bicycle coalition in many of our

[1:29:11] decisions. But looking at cost.

[1:29:14] And it's difficult for me to

[1:29:16] wrap around, and what I'm

[1:29:18] looking forward as for as my

[1:29:19] answer is how will these be

[1:29:22] addressed as I drill down, like

[1:29:25] spending $6.7 billion to go a

[1:29:28] couple of miles from 4th street

[1:29:31] station in caltrain to

[1:29:34] salesforce tower. The north bay

[1:29:36] could use $6.7 billion, when

[1:29:38] let's say you could walk or take

[1:29:41] a cab for 3 to $11, you could

[1:29:44] take a bus for $2. That's

[1:29:47] enough to pay 600 million

[1:29:49] passengers -- people that were

[1:29:52] going to go to salesforce tower

[1:29:53] anywhere in the city. So then

[1:29:55] you're looking at diridon, as

[1:29:57] well, when you're giving more

[1:29:59] money -- and I don't mean you, I

[1:30:00] mean the mtc, in general, and

[1:30:04] the taxpayers, giving more money

[1:30:09] to connect, you know, six miles

[1:30:10] of bart who already hasn't

[1:30:14] demonstrated that they know how

[1:30:16] to manage money, giving them

[1:30:17] more to manage and operate as

[1:30:19] far as budget. So, are we

[1:30:24] actually going to say, no this

[1:30:29] doesn't work? Or doesn't make

[1:30:32] sense, given our little post

[1:30:34] money. Or do we just ask and

[1:30:37] ask and ask, I haven't had a pay

[1:30:41] raise in three years and I'm a

[1:30:43] general population but do we

[1:30:45] continue to carry the burden of

[1:30:47] these projects that some make no

[1:30:50] sense at all and I understand to

[1:30:52] one or many it means a lot but

[1:30:54] it's difficult to see these

[1:30:55] numbers and actual benefits that

[1:30:58] we have as far as our agencies,

[1:31:00] 27 of them, manage their funds

[1:31:04] and taxpayer money, so I would

[1:31:06] like to see really dig down deep

[1:31:09] as how does this benefit the

[1:31:12] network? I still can't get to

[1:31:15] napa or sonoma from here without

[1:31:16] multiple hours of my day spent

[1:31:18] travelling and non-productive.

[1:31:20] And so looking at these major

[1:31:22] projects and many of the smaller

[1:31:24] projects t doesn't make sense.

[1:31:25] Livermore valley connecting 300

[1:31:27] feet or whatever, that means

[1:31:29] somebody in a wheelchair has to

[1:31:32] have an umbrella get out of the

[1:31:33] train and get on to another

[1:31:35] vehicle and off they go. So

[1:31:37] looking at that last mile. It's

[1:31:40] kind of frustrating to see these

[1:31:42] expenditures and hope this will

[1:31:43] provide some answers when we get

[1:31:44] down to t thank you very much

[1:31:46] for your time.

[1:31:47] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:31:48] thank you for your comments

[1:31:52] council member baldini.

[1:31:54] Council member saunders is next

[1:31:55] on the queue.

[1:31:56] >>joshua saunders: thank you.

[1:32:00] I wanted to mention -- and

[1:32:03] thafrngsz thanks for the

[1:32:04] presentation. I'm glad that in

[1:32:05] the presentation you brought up

[1:32:06] the sea level rise and the cost

[1:32:08] of sea level rise, and one of

[1:32:09] the questions I was just going

[1:32:11] to put out there was, I know

[1:32:13] it's hard to quantify, but I'm

[1:32:15] wondering if you have a sense of

[1:32:17] how much these costs are going

[1:32:19] to be, and how much they're

[1:32:21] going to take from other sources

[1:32:23] and other things we could be

[1:32:27] doing with our resources, and

[1:32:31] how much that would impact it?

[1:32:33] And my other question has to do

[1:32:35] with e-bike technology. And the

[1:32:36] reason I bring up this is I live

[1:32:38] in the east bay area, and I walk

[1:32:41] along the ohlone greenway often,

[1:32:44] and I will see -- and I have

[1:32:46] some vision, I'll see zipping

[1:32:48] past me, and I'm wondering

[1:32:49] sooner or later, someone is

[1:32:52] going to hit me. I mean, people

[1:32:53] are people, and they make their

[1:32:55] mistakes. I reached out to the

[1:32:58] poem at the local level, you

[1:33:02] know, my COUNCILMAN And staff,

[1:33:04] in el cerrito, and I'm just

[1:33:07] wondering how that ties into

[1:33:09] what you at mtc are doing with

[1:33:10] that. Thank you.

[1:33:11] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:33:12] thank you member saunders just

[1:33:13] because there are two questions

[1:33:15] about cost and then separate

[1:33:16] question about e-bikes and

[1:33:17] disability community, just going

[1:33:20] to pause to see if staff wants

[1:33:22] to respond to those before

[1:33:23] moving on?

[1:33:25] >>chirag rabari: yes, on the --

[1:33:26] thank you for that question

[1:33:27] member saunders. On the sea

[1:33:29] level rise, you know, we have

[1:33:31] been collaborating with bcdc on

[1:33:32] this work over several years,

[1:33:35] and you know, we do -- we have

[1:33:36] developed various cost

[1:33:40] estimates, which is, you know,

[1:33:43] in order to adapt the entire bay

[1:33:46] to up to five feet of water

[1:33:50] rise, you know, it would cost

[1:33:56] approximately $100 billion, or

[1:33:58] thereabouts, looking all the way

[1:34:01] out to 2050, you know, the

[1:34:02] analytical teams have also done

[1:34:04] estimates of what the cost of

[1:34:06] not adapting the bay could be,

[1:34:08] and you know, these are on order

[1:34:12] of 2 to 3 times in magnitude.

[1:34:16] You know, this space, there is

[1:34:16] certainly less available

[1:34:19] resources in terms of how to

[1:34:21] fund that adaptation, and, you

[1:34:24] know, I think that's simple

[1:34:26] y an

[1:34:27] aspect that we want to continue

[1:34:30] to highlight and exploring for

[1:34:31] our, as a region in terms of

[1:34:35] what would it take to pursue

[1:34:37] these different adaptation

[1:34:40] pathways and how might we

[1:34:42] respond if there were not

[1:34:51] greater levels of resources

[1:34:57] available. On the e-bikes the

[1:35:00] plan context certainly an area

[1:35:01] one of the plan strategies

[1:35:03] existing plan strategies has to

[1:35:05] do with speed limits on

[1:35:07] highways, speed limits on

[1:35:09] roadways, perhaps there is

[1:35:11] something related to bike speed

[1:35:12] limits and that could be

[1:35:13] explored and we could

[1:35:14] demonstrate what the potential

[1:35:15] safety benefits of that could

[1:35:19] be. So I think this is

[1:35:21] definitely something that's on

[1:35:22] our radar and we're interested

[1:35:24] in discussing further with our

[1:35:26] different partners who are more

[1:35:27] engaged in this space.

[1:35:28] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:35:32] thank you. Member cushman?

[1:35:35] >>warren cushman: okay. So I

[1:35:37] want to talk about three

[1:35:39] categories each one a little

[1:35:41] bit. First with transportation.

[1:35:43] It's a huge category, I think

[1:35:45] the themes I'm thinking of is

[1:35:47] needs and tradeoffs, and how the

[1:35:49] needs and tradeoffs balance out.

[1:35:52] In the realm of transportation,

[1:35:53] one of the things I noticed is a

[1:35:55] lot of funding is spent in the

[1:35:57] rail realm, and I live in

[1:35:58] alameda county where a lot of

[1:36:01] buses are being used. And, so

[1:36:04] one tradeoff that I wonder about

[1:36:07] is how to balance the needs of

[1:36:10] all of the 27 different transit

[1:36:12] agencies, and how some of those

[1:36:14] MAY be more rail focused and

[1:36:16] some MAY be more bus focused,

[1:36:18] and how you balance those needs

[1:36:20] all across communities. With

[1:36:23] regard to the public rights of

[1:36:26] way piece, or the pedestrian

[1:36:29] piece, I do think that there are

[1:36:30] also tradeoffs and needs there.

[1:36:33] I would foe further than

[1:36:36] roadways. I would think about

[1:36:37] the sidewalk as a shared space,

[1:36:39] and thinking about how to

[1:36:42] navigate that. One of the

[1:36:44] struggles that blind folks have

[1:36:46] are around e scooters or

[1:36:49] scooters, and how some of those

[1:36:51] can create safety challenges for

[1:36:52] blind folks and I'm sure other

[1:36:55] folks as well. So, I think the

[1:36:57] whole public rights of way, sort

[1:37:00] of, space, or the pedestrian

[1:37:03] space needs to be looked at.

[1:37:05] And I don't know how to -- some

[1:37:07] women call it active

[1:37:07] transportation. I think that

[1:37:09] space needs to be looked at more

[1:37:10] broadly. In the housing space,

[1:37:13] I just want to say that's a huge

[1:37:16] topic and a huge category. I

[1:37:17] hope we go deeper in housing.

[1:37:19] There are a lot of aspects, and

[1:37:20] I'm not going to be talking

[1:37:22] about all of them here, but I

[1:37:25] think we need to think about

[1:37:26] housing, deeply affordable

[1:37:29] housing for people who struggle,

[1:37:30] and who are either homeless or

[1:37:33] close to it. I think in terms

[1:37:36] of universal design and access,

[1:37:40] that's a big housing issue. And

[1:37:42] then tenant protections. Then

[1:37:44] finally in the realm of

[1:37:45] environmental piece and sea

[1:37:47] level rise and all that, I would

[1:37:49] just SARAs we think about 2060

[1:37:52] that, topic of sea level rise,

[1:37:54] environmental concerns, disaster

[1:37:55] preparedness, and preparing for

[1:37:57] what's to come, is going to be

[1:37:58] so much more important as we

[1:38:00] MARCH on through the years. I

[1:38:02] hope that we will be talking

[1:38:04] about disaster preparedness,

[1:38:05] preparing for fires,

[1:38:07] earthquakes, floods, and also

[1:38:09] thinking about preparing for the

[1:38:11] environmental challenges we're

[1:38:16] all facing. Thank you.

[1:38:16] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:38:18] thank you member cushman. Have

[1:38:20] I also third theme come up

[1:38:22] twice, how to balance the

[1:38:28] different 27 transit agencies in

[1:38:30] the plan, can staff -- give

[1:38:32] opportunity to respond to that.

[1:38:33] >>chirag rabari: thank you

[1:38:34] chair lieu thank you member

[1:38:35] cushman for the question, as

[1:38:36] well as member baldini. I think

[1:38:38] one thing I do want to maybe

[1:38:40] point to as something that we're

[1:38:42] hoping to build off of is the

[1:38:45] work that we did in

[1:38:47] collaboration with our transit

[1:38:49] operators in transit 2050+ which

[1:38:51] is part of the most recently

[1:38:53] adopted long range plan. And

[1:38:56] this did really try to lean more

[1:38:59] into a network and service

[1:39:01] oriented vision for the region's

[1:39:03] transit. You know, with the

[1:39:06] idea of in the near-term, we

[1:39:08] really have to prioritize

[1:39:10] service and customer focused

[1:39:11] improvements, while at the same

[1:39:15] time, you know, planning for our

[1:39:17] long-term needs through capital

[1:39:20] in, you know, major capital

[1:39:21] investments. I think we

[1:39:22] understand that the fiscal

[1:39:25] picture is shifting, and is

[1:39:26] likely to be more challenging

[1:39:28] and that is where we hope to

[1:39:29] bring all of our different

[1:39:31] partners and stakeholders

[1:39:33] together to really look at some

[1:39:34] of these different scenarios and

[1:39:36] to think about, well, what are

[1:39:38] our shared priorities in a

[1:39:40] future where there MAY be less

[1:39:42] resources. But, you know, this

[1:39:45] is a topic that has many

[1:39:46] different interests, many

[1:39:48] different priorities, and i

[1:39:49] think to the extent possible, we

[1:39:52] want the plan to be a venue that

[1:39:54] can bring folks together and

[1:39:57] find, like, the best version of

[1:39:59] regional consensus as we can, as

[1:40:06] we develop the long range plan.

[1:40:07] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:40:09] thank you. I see three hands in

[1:40:12] the zoom space, member madrid,

[1:40:17] mirante and hankerson. Member

[1:40:17] madrid?

[1:40:19] >>alexander madrid: thank you

[1:40:26] for the presentation. This was

[1:40:32] mentioned, I want to ask the

[1:40:39] question, is it worthy, good for

[1:40:42] the transportation space, but I

[1:40:45] noticed there is a lot of

[1:40:55] accidents in san francisco

[1:40:58] regarding people using

[1:41:01] sidewalks. Scooters and

[1:41:15] sometimes e-bikes, using, some

[1:41:21] people you run over them, we

[1:41:24] talked to people in san

[1:41:26] francisco, and they said they

[1:41:34] cannot cite them unless only

[1:41:37] police department only can do

[1:41:41] that. And I understand you

[1:41:44] mentioned about speed limit, and

[1:41:49] right now it doesn't work. And

[1:41:57] also companies tend to try to

[1:41:59] mitigate and it doesn't work as

[1:42:02] of now. So, I just want to hear

[1:42:12] from you on how do you mitigate

[1:42:21] and how to plan to prevent it

[1:42:21] happening. Of course, you're

[1:42:26] going to talk to partner

[1:42:30] agencies, but, again, but,

[1:42:36] again, talk is cheap, and

[1:42:40] planning implementation is what

[1:42:45] I'm looking to do. Thank you.

[1:42:45] >>chair, carina vinh lieu: I

[1:42:47] thank all our council members

[1:42:49] for highlighting these issues

[1:42:50] around policy and also

[1:42:53] enforcement around, like,

[1:42:54] different modes, especially for

[1:42:56] our communities with disability.

[1:42:58] So, sounds like this was a topic

[1:42:59] that definitely could be

[1:43:01] addressed here. I'm going to

[1:43:02] give staff a chance to respond

[1:43:06] to that.

[1:43:07] >>chirag rabari: certainly.

[1:43:09] Thank you member madrid for the

[1:43:10] comment. We have certainly

[1:43:11] heard a lot about this issue,

[1:43:13] and I think, you know, our

[1:43:16] commitment is to really work

[1:43:19] with our partners to try to

[1:43:21] determine what the best solution

[1:43:22] in the long-range planning

[1:43:25] context is. You know, I want to

[1:43:26] be honest and transparent that,

[1:43:30] you know, the long range plan

[1:43:31] does include a lot of very

[1:43:32] ambitious strategies related to

[1:43:35] safety, related to vision zero,

[1:43:36] related to active

[1:43:37] transportation, related to speed

[1:43:40] limits. I think the challenge

[1:43:42] has been on the implementation

[1:43:44] side. So, you know, I think

[1:43:45] there are certain additional

[1:43:47] things that we can explore in

[1:43:49] the long-range planning context.

[1:43:51] There are summer things we can

[1:43:54] do in terms of communications

[1:43:56] and emphasis. But the challenge

[1:43:58] is always translating that plan

[1:44:00] into reality. And I think

[1:44:02] that's where, as we develop our

[1:44:05] implementation plan and we think

[1:44:07] about near-term priorities, that

[1:44:08] is certainly something that we

[1:44:10] can explore, but, you know, we

[1:44:13] have a vision zero and safety

[1:44:15] program internally. I know many

[1:44:17] of our partners have their own

[1:44:18] programs, and you know, this

[1:44:20] could just be a -- a --

[1:44:22] something that, you know, we

[1:44:24] need to explore through multiple

[1:44:25] avenues, while also finding the

[1:44:29] right kind of angle in a long

[1:44:31] range plan.

[1:44:32] >>alexander madrid: so can you

[1:44:34] tell us a little bit of that

[1:44:40] idea right now? You mentioned

[1:44:44] you are exploring those ideas.

[1:44:45] Can you tell us some of those

[1:44:52] right now, if you MAY?

[1:44:54] >>chirag rabari: yes. So, I

[1:44:56] think, again, in the long-range

[1:44:57] planning context, we think about

[1:45:01] these long-term policies and

[1:45:02] investments that we can

[1:45:06] implement. So, you know, maybe

[1:45:08] there are revisions or

[1:45:10] clarifications that we can make

[1:45:12] to our existing safety

[1:45:15] strategies or existing vision

[1:45:17] zero strategies, as we think

[1:45:19] about our potential investments

[1:45:23] at a programmatic level, in

[1:45:24] active transportation, are there

[1:45:26] additional investments that

[1:45:28] could potentially be highlighted

[1:45:29] that could address some of the

[1:45:30] challenges in this space. And

[1:45:34] then, again, as we develop that

[1:45:34] near-term implementation plan,

[1:45:37] are there maybe, you know,

[1:45:40] further studies or programmatic

[1:45:42] efforts that mtc abag could

[1:45:44] commit to that, again, will

[1:45:45] speak more directly to these

[1:45:47] challenges. So, those are just

[1:45:48] some of the ideas on the table.

[1:45:51] But, you know, we know that a

[1:45:54] lot of our implementing partners

[1:45:56] at the cities and their public

[1:45:58] works departments, at the, you

[1:46:00] know, the various different

[1:46:02] operators, this is something

[1:46:03] that's front of mind for them,

[1:46:05] as well, and do look forward to

[1:46:08] exploring with them over the

[1:46:11] multi-year playing process. --

[1:46:12] planning process.

[1:46:13] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:46:14] thank you. Just to be mindful

[1:46:15] that there are two more people

[1:46:17] in the queue, I want to move on

[1:46:20] to member mirante's question,

[1:46:23] and member hankerson's question.

[1:46:25] Member mirante.

[1:46:26] >>louis mirante: thank you. No

[1:46:27] specific question. I'm just

[1:46:29] hoping you can tell us a little

[1:46:30] bit more about the threats you

[1:46:32] have identified to planning for

[1:46:33] race equity in this document

[1:46:35] from the federal government and

[1:46:39] how mtc abag are anticipating

[1:46:44] insulating ourselves from that?

[1:46:44] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:46:46] thank you for that member

[1:46:47] mirante. Since we also have

[1:46:49] member hankerson in the queue.

[1:46:51] We'll let you ask your question,

[1:46:53] and see if staff can circle back

[1:46:56] with an answer for both. Member

[1:46:58] hankerson?

[1:46:59] >>dwayne hankerson: I just want

[1:47:02] to know -- oh, thank you for the

[1:47:04] presentation I thought it was

[1:47:05] straightforward and really

[1:47:07] appreciate it. I just wanted to

[1:47:10] know if you could give me an

[1:47:12] update on, you said adapting the

[1:47:15] bay area, is that considering

[1:47:21] highway 37 as a priority?

[1:47:23] Considering the sea level rise

[1:47:24] that floods the highway right

[1:47:26] now, and will eventually flood

[1:47:27] the city of vallejo, can you

[1:47:30] give us an update on that?

[1:47:30] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:47:32] thank you member hankerson.

[1:47:33] Let's turn it over to staff to

[1:47:37] respond 50 to member mirante's

[1:47:39] question, and then member

[1:47:40] hankerson's question.

[1:47:41] >>chirag rabari: yes, I think,

[1:47:43] you know, certainly want to

[1:47:46] acknowledge that this is a, you

[1:47:49] know, a dynamic environment and

[1:47:51] there are lots of shifting

[1:47:52] [Laughter]

[1:47:54] -- you know, shifting orders

[1:47:56] coming down. There are various

[1:47:58] lawsuits. So, I think our --

[1:47:59] our perspective has always been,

[1:48:03] you know, we don't want to over

[1:48:05] react, but we also need to, you

[1:48:07] know, be prepared and nimble in

[1:48:09] the event that there are, you

[1:48:10] know, various changes that are

[1:48:14] required. I think, you know,

[1:48:16] centering equity has and will

[1:48:20] continue to be a core aspect of

[1:48:22] the long range plan, and I don't

[1:48:24] think that that is going to

[1:48:27] change, because this is the bay

[1:48:29] area's regional vision for

[1:48:32] transportation, housing, and the

[1:48:35] environment. But the plan does

[1:48:36] have, you know, certain federal

[1:48:38] requirements that it does need

[1:48:41] to address. The feds do certify

[1:48:44] our status as a metropolitan

[1:48:47] planning organization, you know,

[1:48:53] every, I think, four years or

[1:48:54] thereabouts. And as these

[1:48:55] different rulemakings come

[1:48:57] through, we're going to have to

[1:48:58] be thoughtful about how to, you

[1:49:00] know, respond to them in our

[1:49:02] capacity as a federally

[1:49:05] designated mpo. But I don't

[1:49:08] think that our emphasis on, you

[1:49:12] know, equity is going to change

[1:49:23] in the long range plan itself.

[1:49:24] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:49:24] thank you. Are there any

[1:49:26] responses to member hankerson's

[1:49:27] question?

[1:49:28] >>chirag rabari: yeah, I think

[1:49:32] the question was just about the

[1:49:35] sr37 and some of the work that's

[1:49:37] moving forward in terms adapting

[1:49:42] the bay area. So, you know, we

[1:49:45] have, in terms of the, you know,

[1:49:46] the transportation projects that

[1:49:50] are included in the long range

[1:49:57] plan, there -- we -- our

[1:50:02] fiscally constrained

[1:50:04] transportation plan does include

[1:50:06] an interim project you know the

[1:50:08] smaller scale project that mtc

[1:50:09] and caltrans and our various

[1:50:11] partners in the north bay are

[1:50:13] looking to implement to deal

[1:50:15] with some of the near-term

[1:50:17] protection needs. The plan also

[1:50:19] has a resilience project list

[1:50:27] which is not a fiscally

[1:50:28] constrained document that does

[1:50:31] identify that longer term need

[1:50:35] to adapt to sr37 to the broader

[1:50:36] range of challenges. So that is

[1:50:38] kind of our starting point for

[1:50:41] our work as we head into planned

[1:50:43] bay area 2060, and as the

[1:50:45] project lists do develop, we

[1:50:46] would anticipate getting new

[1:50:48] information, getting new

[1:50:51] details, and updating those

[1:50:55] project characterses as

[1:50:57] appropriate based on the fiscal

[1:51:00] resources that are available.

[1:51:01] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:51:02] matt?

[1:51:03] >>matt maloney: I want to make

[1:51:05] a couple comments about the

[1:51:06] plan. Kind of that we're in

[1:51:08] this period of time, you know,

[1:51:10] beginning a new plan with all of

[1:51:11] you, and you're going to be

[1:51:15] hearing a lot about it over the

[1:51:18] next few years. You know, I

[1:51:20] think these plans are obviously

[1:51:21] very important for the region,

[1:51:23] and we put a lot of staff energy

[1:51:27] into them. But I also think

[1:51:28] foundationally, just for the

[1:51:29] council, is understanding, sort

[1:51:31] of, what the plan is and what it

[1:51:33] isn't. You know, it's a

[1:51:36] long-term vision, and really a

[1:51:40] guide for action for this

[1:51:41] region. It has some

[1:51:43] implementation teeth to it,

[1:51:44] depending on what part of the

[1:51:46] plan we're talking about, but in

[1:51:50] large part, it sets the vision

[1:51:51] and the implementation details

[1:51:52] need to be carried out, usually

[1:51:55] by our partners, whether they're

[1:51:56] local governments, you know,

[1:52:00] transit agencies, the state, the

[1:52:01] feds, you know, everybody is

[1:52:03] involved in kind of getting that

[1:52:05] stuff done.

[1:52:07] I guess what I'm trying to say

[1:52:09] is that it doesn't also legend

[1:52:11] itself to ga going deep and

[1:52:13] granular on every single topic.

[1:52:15] We just comment do it in the

[1:52:16] plan. Sometimes we have to be

[1:52:18] at a certain level, maybe not

[1:52:20] 30,000 feet, but sometimes like

[1:52:21] 5 to 10,000 feet on a lot of

[1:52:25] these issues, you know, and the

[1:52:26] goal being that we're laying out

[1:52:27] strategies for the region to,

[1:52:29] sort of, move forward. So,

[1:52:30] really, the policy making and

[1:52:31] the strategies are really the

[1:52:32] foundation of what makes the

[1:52:34] plan work, but we also have to

[1:52:36] remember that there is so much

[1:52:38] on the implementation side that

[1:52:41] we can't control ourselves.

[1:52:43] And, you know, that it requires

[1:52:45] a lot of action from others.

[1:52:46] And I think that's a theme we'll

[1:52:49] return to throughout this

[1:52:50] process. Thanks.

[1:52:51] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:52:53] thank you, matt. Thank you

[1:52:54] council members for your

[1:52:57] discussion. And, also, I just

[1:52:59] want to acknowledge chirag, you

[1:53:01] just took on a lot of hard

[1:53:02] questions on the spot. So,

[1:53:05] thank you. You did a great job.

[1:53:07] Will the clerk please inform us

[1:53:08] if there is any public comment

[1:53:10] submitted for this item and

[1:53:12] whether there are any members of

[1:53:14] the public who wish to give

[1:53:15] public comment?

[1:53:16] >>clerk, jessica lewis: we

[1:53:17] received no public comments for

[1:53:19] this item no speakers at the

[1:53:21] podium and no raised hands in

[1:53:24] the zoom space requesting to

[1:53:25] provide public comment.

[1:53:25] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[1:53:27] thank you.

[1:53:29] We'll move to agenda item five b

[1:53:32] this is the draft 2026 public

[1:53:33] participation plan for the san

[1:53:34] francisco bay area, summary of

[1:53:39] input received. This is an

[1:53:43] information item from veronica

[1:53:45] cummings, and also for

[1:53:46] edification of the council this

[1:53:49] is an item on our work plan and

[1:53:51] so is the planned bay area 2060

[1:53:52] so just acknowledging that we

[1:53:53] are hearing things directly

[1:53:55] about our work plan. So

[1:53:57] veronica cummings will you

[1:54:00] please give us the report?

[1:54:00] >>veronica cummings good

[1:54:01] morning. Thank you very much.

[1:54:04] My name is veronica cummings I'm

[1:54:06] the principal public information

[1:54:08] officer for engagement. I'm

[1:54:11] here today to share what we

[1:54:13] heard during the public review

[1:54:15] of the draft 2026 public

[1:54:16] participation plan or the ppp

[1:54:21] and how that feedback is

[1:54:23] informing the revised plan.

[1:54:26] I'll start with the quick

[1:54:29] refresher on the ppp and the

[1:54:31] federal state requirements it

[1:54:32] fulfills. Then walk through the

[1:54:34] engagement we conducted during

[1:54:36] the 45 day public comment period

[1:54:37] and key themes that emerged

[1:54:40] across these activities. I'll

[1:54:42] close with remaining milestones

[1:54:44] leading to consideration of the

[1:54:45] revised plan by the commission

[1:54:47] later this month. Next slide.

[1:54:49] As you MAY remember, printed the

[1:54:52] draft 2026ppp to you in JUNE, so

[1:54:54] these next couple of slides are

[1:54:56] meant to just be a refresher.

[1:54:59] At its core, the ppp serves as a

[1:55:01] guide for how bay area residents

[1:55:02] and our partners can engage with

[1:55:04] mtc's planning and

[1:55:06] decision-making processes. It

[1:55:08] explains where people can find

[1:55:10] information, how to stay

[1:55:11] informed about participation

[1:55:13] opportunities, how to provide

[1:55:15] input and how public comments

[1:55:17] are documented and reported

[1:55:21] back. The ppp also fulfills

[1:55:22] federal and state public

[1:55:23] participation plan requirements

[1:55:25] for major regional planning and

[1:55:28] funding efforts, including

[1:55:28] planned bay area and the

[1:55:31] transportation improvement plan.

[1:55:33] The document also guides our --

[1:55:35] I'm sorry -- includes our

[1:55:36] guiding principles for

[1:55:39] engagement and our engagement

[1:55:40] framework. Together these

[1:55:41] provide direction for how staff

[1:55:43] plans, convicts, and evaluates

[1:55:46] public engagement. Ultimately

[1:55:47] the goal is to make

[1:55:49] participation clearer, more

[1:55:50] accessible, and more

[1:55:51] transparent, both for members of

[1:55:53] the public who want to

[1:55:55] understand how and when they can

[1:55:56] participate, and for staff

[1:55:58] designing these opportunities.

[1:56:02] Next slide.

[1:56:04] This slide summarizes the

[1:56:05] federal and state requirements

[1:56:07] that provide the legal basis for

[1:56:11] the ppp. Under federal

[1:56:13] regulations, mtc must create

[1:56:16] opportunities for public

[1:56:17] involvement, participation and

[1:56:18] consultation throughout the

[1:56:19] development of the regional

[1:56:20] transportation plan and the

[1:56:20] transportation improvement

[1:56:26] program. Or tip.

[1:56:29] The tip is the region's

[1:56:31] federally required four-year

[1:56:33] list of near-term transportation

[1:56:34] projects and programs expected

[1:56:37] to receive funding. State law

[1:56:39] also requires mtc to develop an

[1:56:41] engagement plan for the

[1:56:42] sustainable community strategy.

[1:56:43] Together the regional

[1:56:44] transportation plan and

[1:56:45] sustainable community strategy

[1:56:47] make up the region's long range

[1:56:50] plan, planned bay area, and I do

[1:56:51] want to clarify one point about

[1:56:54] the scope of the ppp, it is an

[1:56:55] mtc required document adopted by

[1:56:58] the commission. While it does

[1:57:01] not impose legal participation

[1:57:04] requirements of abag, mtc/abag

[1:57:07] staff uses it as a guide -- uses

[1:57:09] it to guide engagement for joint

[1:57:10] planning work, such as planned

[1:57:13] bay area, and the ppp is

[1:57:15] primarily centered on mtc's core

[1:57:16] planning and funding

[1:57:19] responsibilities. It is not

[1:57:22] intended to be a comprehensive

[1:57:25] inventory of every engagement

[1:57:26] activity conducted across mtc

[1:57:27] abag and related authorities.

[1:57:30] Next slide.

[1:57:33] I'll now turn to the engagement

[1:57:35] we conducted during the public

[1:57:37] review and comment period.

[1:57:40] Staff released the draft ppp on

[1:57:42] JUNE 8th for a 45-day public

[1:57:43] comment period that closed

[1:57:45] JULY 23rd. During that period,

[1:57:48] we convened focus groups with

[1:57:49] representatives from

[1:57:50] community-based organizations

[1:57:52] serving a range of bay area

[1:57:54] communities, including older

[1:57:55] adults, immigrants, tribal

[1:57:57] communities, youth, and people

[1:57:59] with disabilities. We also held

[1:58:00] discussion groups with high

[1:58:02] school students participating in

[1:58:06] the normal

[1:58:13] alan -- norman mineta

[1:58:14] bay area summer academy, and

[1:58:15] these conversations focus

[1:58:17] specifically on how mtc can make

[1:58:19] participation more relevant,

[1:58:20] accessible and appealing to

[1:58:21] duong people. More personally

[1:58:23] for today's discussion, we held

[1:58:24] two discussion groups with

[1:58:25] members of this council focused

[1:58:28] on equity, accessibility, trust

[1:58:30] building and community centered

[1:58:31] engagement. Finally staff

[1:58:33] administered an online survey in

[1:58:34] english, spanish, and

[1:58:35] traditional chinese. Together

[1:58:38] these activities gave us both

[1:58:40] broad survey data and more

[1:58:41] detailed feedback from community

[1:58:43] partners, couth, council

[1:58:45] members, and formal commenters.

[1:58:48] in all more than 1300 people

[1:58:50] participated. Next slide. Youth, council

[1:58:51] members, and formal commenters.

[1:58:51] In all more than 1300 people

[1:58:52] participated. Next slide. What

[1:58:55] we heard, this slide gives a

[1:58:57] high-level picture of what we

[1:59:02] heard. All the participants

[1:59:02] represented different

[1:59:04] communities and engaged with us

[1:59:07] in different ways, the feedback

[1:59:08] was remarkably consistent.

[1:59:09] First and foremost, people want

[1:59:11] us to close the feedback loop.

[1:59:13] They want us to report back on

[1:59:14] what we heard and show how

[1:59:16] public input influenced

[1:59:17] recommendations and decisions.

[1:59:19] They also want us to meet people

[1:59:21] where they are, both in trusted

[1:59:25] community spaces and through

[1:59:27] digital channels and

[1:59:28] communication networks they

[1:59:32] already use. Reducing barriers

[1:59:35] to participation was another

[1:59:39] major theme, and participants

[1:59:41] identified language, disability,

[1:59:42] technology, transportation,

[1:59:43] scheduling and child care and

[1:59:46] other practical barriers that

[1:59:48] can make participation

[1:59:49] difficult. We also heard the

[1:59:50] need for plain language and

[1:59:52] clearer connection between

[1:59:54] regional planning and funding

[1:59:54] decisions and issues people

[1:59:57] snrns their daily lives.

[1:59:59] Participants want clearer value

[2:00:01] proposition for their time, they

[2:00:04] want to know why their input is

[2:00:06] needed, what is actually open

[2:00:08] for discussion, and how their

[2:00:10] participation MAY affect a

[2:00:12] decision. Finally they ask us

[2:00:13] to keep our communications

[2:00:15] clear, concise, and accessible.

[2:00:17] What is striking is how closely

[2:00:20] these findings align with what

[2:00:21] we have heard from this couple

[2:00:24] both during our JUNE ppp

[2:00:25] discussion and in your broader

[2:00:27] conversations about community

[2:00:29] engagement. The next slides

[2:00:32] take a closer look at these

[2:00:41] themes. Next slide.

[2:00:43] Increased transparency and

[2:00:44] accountability, participants

[2:00:46] consistently asked mtc to close

[2:00:48] the feedback loop by showing how

[2:00:50] public input influences plans,

[2:00:52] policies programs, invest

[2:00:53] decisions, they want us to

[2:00:56] report back on what we heard,

[2:00:57] share engagement results and

[2:00:58] identify tangible outcomes

[2:00:59] associated with public input.

[2:01:01] Many people told us they would

[2:01:02] be more willing to participate

[2:01:05] if they could see how their

[2:01:08] input led to action or

[2:01:09] meaningfully informed a

[2:01:10] recommendation. Conversely

[2:01:13] frustration grows when people

[2:01:14] never hear what happened after

[2:01:16] inn game activity or feel that a

[2:01:18] decision was already made before

[2:01:19] they were invited to the

[2:01:20] process. And this echoes pint

[2:01:23] that came up in this council's

[2:01:25] discussion as well, that people

[2:01:27] need to understand not only how

[2:01:29] to provide input but what is

[2:01:30] actually within their influence

[2:01:33] and what happens to that input

[2:01:34] afterward. So in practical

[2:01:36] terms that means being clear at

[2:01:38] the beginning about what is open

[2:01:41] for input then reporting back on

[2:01:45] on what we heard and how it was

[2:01:46] considered. When something

[2:01:48] cannot be incorporated and why.

[2:01:49] The bottom line is that closing

[2:01:51] the loop is fundamental to trust

[2:01:52] and people are more likely to

[2:01:54] participate when they could see

[2:01:56] that their time and input

[2:01:58] matter. Next slide.

[2:02:00] Number two meeting people where

[2:02:02] they are participants encouraged

[2:02:04] us to expand engagement beyond

[2:02:05] traditional public meetings and

[2:02:08] government buildings. They

[2:02:09] recommended reaching people in

[2:02:10] familiar trusted places such as

[2:02:12] schools, libraries, senior

[2:02:14] centers, transit hubs, health

[2:02:17] care facilities, cultural

[2:02:18] events, faith based

[2:02:19] organizations, and other

[2:02:20] community space presidency.

[2:02:23] They asked us to use the

[2:02:24] communication channels that

[2:02:26] people already rely on, and

[2:02:28] depending on the audience that

[2:02:30] might be social media, school

[2:02:32] notification systems, community

[2:02:33] organization networks or

[2:02:35] messaging applications. So it's

[2:02:37] more than changing the location

[2:02:39] of a meeting, it's about fitting

[2:02:40] participation into people's

[2:02:42] existing lives rather than

[2:02:45] expecting them to navigate an

[2:02:46] unfamiliar government process.

[2:02:47] This was also very clear in

[2:02:49] terms of messaging from this

[2:02:51] council during last month's

[2:02:53] meeting discussion.

[2:02:55] Members talked about going

[2:03:00] directly to cbo sites and

[2:03:02] existing community events,

[2:03:04] rather than expecting are thes

[2:03:07] to come to us just refreshing

[2:03:09] last month's discussion. So

[2:03:12] this reinforces the value of

[2:03:13] partnering with community

[2:03:15] organizations are that already

[2:03:16] have trusted relationships and

[2:03:17] understand how to reach people

[2:03:19] they serve. The bottom line is

[2:03:21] that engagement is most

[2:03:22] effective when it happens in

[2:03:23] trusted community spaces and

[2:03:25] through channels people already

[2:03:26] use. Next slide.

[2:03:29] Key finding number three, access

[2:03:31] and accessibility. Participants

[2:03:33] identified a number of barriers

[2:03:34] that can prevent people from

[2:03:36] participating even when they

[2:03:38] care about an issue, barriers

[2:03:40] such as language, limited

[2:03:42] mobility, disability access,

[2:03:43] technology, transportation, work

[2:03:45] schedules, child care, and

[2:03:47] family obligations. They called

[2:03:49] for higher I'm sorry -- they

[2:03:51] called for expanded language

[2:03:54] access, including translated

[2:03:55] materials, and high quality

[2:03:57] interpretation, as well as

[2:03:59] accommodations for people with

[2:04:00] disabilities and consistent

[2:04:01] virtual participation options.

[2:04:04] Survey respondents, as well as

[2:04:07] the council also emphasized

[2:04:08] evening and weekend

[2:04:09] opportunities for people whose

[2:04:17] work or family obligations make

[2:04:18] daytime participation difficult.

[2:04:21] Let's see. The practical

[2:04:22] takeaway is that the

[2:04:24] participation method, schedule,

[2:04:25] location, and accessibility

[2:04:27] services need to be considered

[2:04:28] together from the beginning, and

[2:04:31] not addressed separately after

[2:04:34] an aqtively has already been

[2:04:36] designed. Next slide.

[2:04:40] Key finding number four, using

[2:04:42] plain language, as well as

[2:04:45] language this's relevant.

[2:04:46] Participants asked mtc to

[2:04:48] explain our role,

[2:04:49] responsibilities, and decision

[2:04:50] make authority more clearly.

[2:04:53] Many community members do not

[2:04:55] fully understand how mtc differs

[2:04:57] from local governments and

[2:04:58] transit operators, or how

[2:05:00] regional planning and funding

[2:05:03] decisions affect their daily

[2:05:05] lives. They recommend concise,

[2:05:06] non-technical language,

[2:05:08] practical examples, and

[2:05:11] relatable explanations, along

[2:05:14] with simpler surveys, websites

[2:05:17] and other public-facing

[2:05:20] materials. And plain language

[2:05:23] it's about more than just

[2:05:26] removing jargon, it means giving

[2:05:27] people enough context to

[2:05:29] understand why the issues matter

[2:05:30] and what decisions are being

[2:05:31] made, how they can participate.

[2:05:33] The bottom line is that

[2:05:37] residents can engage more

[2:05:39] meaningfully when we explain our

[2:05:42] role, our decisions and their

[2:05:45] impacts in clear relatable

[2:05:46] terms. Next slide.

[2:05:49] Key finding number five.

[2:05:50] Strengthen community partnership

[2:05:52] presidency, community-based

[2:05:53] organizations and this council.

[2:05:55] Emphasize the importance of

[2:05:56] involving community partners

[2:06:00] earlier in the planning process,

[2:06:03] partners when an opportunity to

[2:06:04] help shape engagement

[2:06:06] strategies rather than being

[2:06:07] asked to implement an approach

[2:06:10] after its already been

[2:06:11] developed. Participants

[2:06:15] recommend cocreating these

[2:06:15] outreach strategies improving

[2:06:16] coordination among organizations

[2:06:17] and creating more opportunity

[2:06:19] for community partners to

[2:06:21] convene and learn from one

[2:06:24] another. They also emphasize

[2:06:28] broad geographic representation

[2:06:31] and recognizing the time,

[2:06:34] expertise, and lived experience

[2:06:35] community members contribute.

[2:06:37] Earlier more consistent

[2:06:39] collaboration can help staff

[2:06:40] choose relevant engagement

[2:06:43] methods anticipate barriers and

[2:06:45] avoid duplicating outreach that

[2:06:46] partners or other agencies have

[2:06:48] heard conducted. Let's see.

[2:06:49] Bottom line is that early

[2:06:51] coordinated and ongoing

[2:06:52] collaboration with trusted

[2:06:54] community partners leads to

[2:06:56] broader more equitable and more

[2:06:58] effective engagement. Next

[2:06:58] slide.

[2:07:02] Key finding number six, equity

[2:07:03] centered equity throughout

[2:07:06] engagement across all activities

[2:07:08] participants encouraged mtc

[2:07:10] prioritize communities that have

[2:07:11] historically been underserved or

[2:07:13] excluded from public

[2:07:14] decision-making. They asked us

[2:07:17] to work with trusted

[2:07:19] organizations and messengers and

[2:07:22] ensure broad geographic

[2:07:23] demographic representation and

[2:07:23] design participation

[2:07:24] opportunities that are

[2:07:26] inclusive, culturally responsive

[2:07:29] and accessible. And so this

[2:07:31] means equity should shape who is

[2:07:33] engaged, how engagement is

[2:07:35] designed, what resources are

[2:07:37] provided and how input is

[2:07:39] considered. And it also means

[2:07:40] recognizing that the same

[2:07:41] engagement method will not work

[2:07:44] equally for every community.

[2:07:46] The bottom line is that equity

[2:07:49] needs to be embedded throughout

[2:07:50] engagement, planning and

[2:07:52] implementation, rather than

[2:07:54] treated as a separate or

[2:07:54] standalone objective. Next

[2:07:59] slide.

[2:08:01] This final slide outlines the

[2:08:03] remaining steps in this process.

[2:08:05] Staff is now finalizing

[2:08:06] revisions to the plan based on

[2:08:08] what we heard from this council,

[2:08:11] as well as the feedback we

[2:08:12] received during our public

[2:08:14] comment period, and the revised

[2:08:16] plan will then be presented to

[2:08:18] the joint mtc abag legislation

[2:08:20] committee next friday, with a

[2:08:22] recommendation to forward it to

[2:08:23] the commission for consideration

[2:08:24] of adoption.

[2:08:26] I do want to close by thanking

[2:08:28] you for the feedback that you

[2:08:30] have provided throughout this

[2:08:32] process. Not only during the

[2:08:36] formal ppp review, but through

[2:08:39] the broader conversations the

[2:08:40] council has had about what

[2:08:41] meaningful community engagement

[2:08:43] should look like. The

[2:08:45] consistency between what we have

[2:08:46] heard through the public review

[2:08:48] and what you have been telling

[2:08:51] us reinforces the direction of

[2:08:53] this update. This does conclude

[2:08:56] my presentation, and I would be

[2:08:58] happy to answer any questions.

[2:08:59] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:09:00] thank you so much, veronica.

[2:09:01] It's great it see our own

[2:09:02] feedback incorporated into this

[2:09:04] slide deck. Thank you.

[2:09:07] And also just noting that as a

[2:09:09] community organizer, a lot of

[2:09:12] these things sound like

[2:09:12] organizing

[2:09:13] [Laughter]

[2:09:15] -- incorporated into this. So,

[2:09:17] I hope that it does get realized

[2:09:19] and resourced well. Are

[2:09:21] there council members who would

[2:09:22] like to participate in

[2:09:24] discussion? Please raise your

[2:09:26] hand. I'm going to start from

[2:09:32] my left. Member sbranti.

[2:09:46] Member demong. Member duong,

[2:09:49] cha, madrid on zoom. Let's

[2:09:52] start with you member sbranti.

[2:09:53] >>speaker: great. Thank you.

[2:09:54] Great presentation. I think I

[2:09:55] don't know if it's more of a

[2:09:57] question or comment, I guess

[2:09:58] it's a question. So there is a

[2:10:00] lot of rev representatives to

[2:10:01] community-based organizations

[2:10:03] which is fantastic and I

[2:10:04] participate in those. I'm not

[2:10:06] sure about the level of

[2:10:07] engagement with business

[2:10:08] community and I don't know if

[2:10:10] you're just community-based

[2:10:11] organizations is broadly

[2:10:13] incorporating business but a lot

[2:10:16] of times business community

[2:10:18] doesn't proactively think to

[2:10:20] participate in these kinds of

[2:10:21] processes and sometimes doesn't

[2:10:23] think these processes are for

[2:10:25] them. You know it's like

[2:10:27] governments doing this

[2:10:29] community-based organizations,

[2:10:31] ngo's, you know, there is a lot

[2:10:34] of silo effect so I want to make

[2:10:36] sure they're incorporated

[2:10:38] proactively into this process

[2:10:39] and also with the business

[2:10:41] community recognizing that it's

[2:10:45] not monolither so you have

[2:10:47] businesses like bay area council

[2:10:49] east bay commerce level small

[2:10:50] business those might be two

[2:10:53] different perspectives and

[2:10:54] thinking about labor as well

[2:10:56] interest that needs to be a

[2:10:57] participant in this you know,

[2:10:59] those that you know are bringing

[2:11:01] their lunch pail to work they're

[2:11:03] working noon to five or whatever

[2:11:06] their hours are, figuring out

[2:11:09] sometimes how it was alluded to

[2:11:10] that they will be different

[2:11:12] times evening sessions and

[2:11:14] everything else but again being

[2:11:16] intentional and proactive

[2:11:18] because they MAY if something's

[2:11:20] taking place at a community

[2:11:22] center or something they MAY not

[2:11:24] -- we might just need to have a

[2:11:26] bit more tailored outreach just

[2:11:28] something to think about.

[2:11:29] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:11:31] thank you member sbranti. I

[2:11:34] think to add to that would be

[2:11:37] nice to see where the consensus

[2:11:38] is if there were challenges of

[2:11:41] meeting people where they are in

[2:11:42] terms of feedback different

[2:11:44] interests angles that benefit

[2:11:47] mtc to find out what's the

[2:11:50] consensus about what we all need

[2:11:52] or something like that.

[2:11:53] >>speaker: amazing presentation

[2:11:55] as always it's great to hear

[2:11:57] about all the great work you

[2:11:59] guys are doing. Particularly

[2:12:02] with working with the mineta

[2:12:03] summer program and getting them

[2:12:07] to participate but I think you

[2:12:08] mentioned already it would be

[2:12:09] good once you guys are done with

[2:12:12] the revisions you submit to the

[2:12:14] commission on connecting back

[2:12:17] with the youth who participated

[2:12:21] and in the process specifically

[2:12:24] or broadly letting them know

[2:12:25] their engagement led to

[2:12:29] something actionable.

[2:12:31] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:12:36] thank you. Member?

[2:12:37] >>speaker: thank you for the

[2:12:38] presentation. Two comments and

[2:12:41] question. First what stood out

[2:12:43] most was close of the feedback

[2:12:54] loop when we're asking cbo's and

[2:12:58] and advisory bodies to stay

[2:13:03] engaged over a multi-year

[2:13:04] process

[2:13:05] process.

[2:13:09] >>bryant duong: people need

[2:13:10] to be able to see what happened

[2:13:13] with their input. Second,

[2:13:16] survey more than 1200, 1300

[2:13:17] participants came through it's

[2:13:18] carrying this effort but

[2:13:21] attachment b doesn't report who

[2:13:23] responded so there is no

[2:13:25] language by county income race

[2:13:27] is staff able to release that or

[2:13:29] provide council with that? If

[2:13:31] you know demographics weren't

[2:13:34] collected? I think that's worth

[2:13:36] knowing too worth considering by

[2:13:38] the next cycle. Thank you.

[2:13:38] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:13:41] would you like to respond to

[2:13:46] that?

[2:13:50] >>veronica cummings

[2:13:52] >>veronica cummings thank you

[2:13:53] very much for elevates the

[2:13:54] business community as a

[2:13:56] stakeholder which we recognize

[2:13:57] in your public participation

[2:14:00] plan we do have a list of

[2:14:02] stakeholders including chambers

[2:14:04] of commerce we absolutely try to

[2:14:06] be inclusive of all stakeholders

[2:14:09] in the bay area and thank you

[2:14:11] member duong for your suggestion

[2:14:14] to bring back the feedback to

[2:14:15] our high school academy

[2:14:16] participants I agree with you

[2:14:17] that it would be wonderful for

[2:14:19] them to see how their

[2:14:20] contribution to the discussion

[2:14:22] was incorporated into the public

[2:14:23] participation plan and then last

[2:14:25] question in response to the

[2:14:26] survey we do have the

[2:14:29] information of the survey

[2:14:31] respondents, the language

[2:14:33] participation, we also try to

[2:14:35] collect demographic information

[2:14:37] it's voluntary but it's not

[2:14:39] mandatory so that's a challenge

[2:14:40] in providing that information

[2:14:42] because we just tonight

[2:14:43] necessarily receive it.

[2:14:45] Including we're asked a lot of

[2:14:46] times to provide survey

[2:14:47] information at the county level

[2:14:49] which we also include, but again

[2:14:50] it's not required for

[2:14:53] respondents to provide. But we

[2:14:54] can absolutely provide any

[2:14:56] demographic information that we

[2:14:57] collected.

[2:14:58] >>bryant duong: great. Thank

[2:15:00] you.

[2:15:00] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:15:05] thank you. Next is member cha?

[2:15:05] >>kathleen cha: I really

[2:15:09] thought a very thorough

[2:15:10] presentation, it really did

[2:15:11] incorporate not only our

[2:15:13] thoughts but quite a few. And

[2:15:16] it did -- and I really under

[2:15:19] score what's been said about

[2:15:20] community-based organizations,

[2:15:22] but it also inspired in me that

[2:15:25] there are two ways to this.

[2:15:27] There is a lot of already

[2:15:28] feeling before this in prior

[2:15:30] plans, which I have participated

[2:15:32] in over the course of time, and

[2:15:34] one of the things that has come

[2:15:37] up is that -- and you have

[2:15:40] addressed this, and it's the

[2:15:42] very fact, so we come,

[2:15:43] participate, give you some

[2:15:44] ideas, but you don't see that

[2:15:49] they actually had, or they are

[2:15:51] come in sense too late in the

[2:15:52] process, things have already

[2:15:53] been decided. So what I'm

[2:15:55] moving to -- and I know that's

[2:15:58] still the challenge to overcome

[2:16:00] that particular feeling or bias,

[2:16:02] or however you want to describe

[2:16:06] it -- but I think there is a

[2:16:10] need to make sure that it would

[2:16:11] the community-based

[2:16:14] organizations, the business, the

[2:16:18] whole group, you need to come

[2:16:23] back to them, and say, you know,

[2:16:24] there is your responsibility as

[2:16:25] someone representing the

[2:16:26] communities to be able to

[2:16:27] present these opportunities and

[2:16:29] be part of that process p they

[2:16:32] have to be a good pipeline. And

[2:16:35] this is their way because it

[2:16:37] will serve our communities if we

[2:16:39] do do that. So I'm just saying

[2:16:41] that really needs to be brought

[2:16:43] up and we need to obviously keep

[2:16:45] bringing in as many

[2:16:47] community-based organizations to

[2:16:49] this process as possible. Just

[2:16:52] something that I think that we

[2:16:53] forget. We think well,

[2:16:56] that's your problem. No,

[2:16:59] actually, I think it's our

[2:17:02] problem as part of whatever

[2:17:10] community

[2:17:12] organization,

[2:17:13] whatever community and how we

[2:17:15] serve our communities.

[2:17:17] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:17:18] thank you. Member wong?

[2:17:19] >>janelle wong: thank you so

[2:17:20] much for this presentation.

[2:17:23] This is wonderful to see. Our

[2:17:24] thoughts reflected here, also as

[2:17:29] an organizer, I have been

[2:17:30] screaming into the ether for a

[2:17:33] very long time to have a lot of

[2:17:34] these things be real and have

[2:17:36] people hear why people want to

[2:17:39] be heard. And so we deeply

[2:17:40] appreciate this document

[2:17:41] hopefully it's successful

[2:17:44] because I think that's one thing

[2:17:46] I echo council member lieu is

[2:17:47] that even though a lot us have

[2:17:49] been saying it, we don't

[2:17:50] actually know how successful it

[2:17:53] is. So I hope to see in the

[2:17:55] years to come success on this

[2:17:58] type of communication and

[2:17:59] organizing. The other thing I

[2:18:01] would say in terms of relaying

[2:18:03] back to us the success of these

[2:18:04] types of communications because

[2:18:05] this is the first time I have

[2:18:08] seen the framework publicly be

[2:18:11] inclusive. That maybe there is

[2:18:14] framework for other agencies,

[2:18:18] other local counties to take on

[2:18:21] these things because the topics

[2:18:22] we're talking about both

[2:18:23] transportation and housing can

[2:18:26] be polarizing so even at your

[2:18:28] best efforts to include all the

[2:18:30] voices that sometimes it can be

[2:18:32] challenging to hear that your

[2:18:34] participation MAY not have

[2:18:37] gotten to the place where you

[2:18:40] thought it should be and that's

[2:18:41] on both sides of the I'll in

[2:18:43] terms of housing and

[2:18:45] transportation. So would be

[2:18:46] interesting to see in the future

[2:18:51] how this is working, a case

[2:18:54] study in particular challenging

[2:18:55] topics whether it's housing or

[2:18:56] transportation, pick either of

[2:19:00] the two, in a community where it

[2:19:03] is challenging to see if the way

[2:19:05] you framed it and the way that

[2:19:08] this organizing has been

[2:19:09] executed, not a perfect answer

[2:19:11] but got us to an answer that

[2:19:13] makes the implementation of long

[2:19:15] term vision and the plan better.

[2:19:17] That's what I would like to

[2:19:22] hear, a couple years from now,

[2:19:24] ongoing basis for the public to,

[2:19:26] sort of, understand. It's not

[2:19:28] perfect we're dealing with

[2:19:30] topics that people have lots of

[2:19:32] opinions on so it would be nice

[2:19:36] if this framework from beginning

[2:19:38] to end, it's great start for us

[2:19:40] moving forward in terms of

[2:19:42] advocating in these spaces.

[2:19:43] Thank you.

[2:19:43] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:19:46] thank you member wong. Council

[2:19:48] member madrid then continuing

[2:19:51] over to you to respond.

[2:19:52] >>alexander madrid: thank you

[2:19:54] for covering veronica. I think

[2:19:56] we mentioned this already but I

[2:19:59] think it would be good to bring

[2:20:05] back some of the milestones that

[2:20:10] organizations take to the

[2:20:16] community and give them an

[2:20:19] update. That's one thing. And

[2:20:22] the second thing I want to

[2:20:31] strongly suggest that we should

[2:20:38] think about is that this plan

[2:20:42] would change and pivot and I

[2:20:46] want to ask if there is any

[2:20:51] opportunity to push push back to

[2:20:54] those communities that when

[2:20:57] reached out to in the past, and

[2:21:00] I said who had to make a change,

[2:21:03] what do you think about this, or

[2:21:07] any suggestion that MAY suggest

[2:21:09] to

[2:21:11] to do. So, just want to bring

[2:21:15] that up. If there is any

[2:21:19] opportunity to do that.

[2:21:20] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:21:21] thank you council member madrid.

[2:21:25] I'll turn it over to you,

[2:21:28] veronica.

[2:21:30] >>veronica cummings okay. Thank

[2:21:33] you for the feedback, the

[2:21:36] continued feedback. And I do

[2:21:39] agree that with this public

[2:21:40] participation plan, the feedback

[2:21:43] loop is important, as well as

[2:21:47] thank you for recognizing the

[2:21:50] inclusivity of this plan, which

[2:21:55] I do -- so, there are, as an

[2:21:57] agency, a lot of projects that

[2:21:59] we're engaging different

[2:22:00] stakeholders, the communities,

[2:22:03] et cetera, and this public

[2:22:05] participation plan is the broad

[2:22:08] plan for the various projects.

[2:22:11] And we are working to coordinate

[2:22:13] internally so that when we are

[2:22:14] out in the community, again,

[2:22:16] we're trying to -- we really

[2:22:20] want to be cognizant of reducing

[2:22:22] the engagement fatigue, and

[2:22:23] duplication, et cetera, et

[2:22:26] cetera. Any time you are

[2:22:28] undertaking an ambitious

[2:22:30] process, you know, there does

[2:22:32] need to be a little bit of grace

[2:22:33] at the beginning. Because it's

[2:22:35] -- it's not as though we can

[2:22:37] stop all of the work on these

[2:22:39] projects so that we could then

[2:22:41] do the engagement, right?

[2:22:43] Especially when we're talking

[2:22:47] about things, the hot topics,

[2:22:48] housing, transportation, et

[2:22:50] cetera. I want to at least say

[2:22:52] to this council that we -- we do

[2:22:54] hear everything that you're

[2:22:56] saying, and that we are

[2:22:57] committed to being responsive

[2:23:01] while recognizing the work is

[2:23:04] ongoing. And so that then to

[2:23:08] member matradition's

[2:23:08] drid

[2:23:11] madrid's feedback and

[2:23:13] question, you know, giving the

[2:23:14] community updates and the

[2:23:16] opportunity for communities to

[2:23:18] respond, this is it go back to

[2:23:21] just there being many projects,

[2:23:24] and so I -- this broad ppp is

[2:23:26] applicable to us as an agency,

[2:23:28] and then we would -- the

[2:23:31] individual project members, you

[2:23:34] know, we would then pass this

[2:23:37] information along to make sure

[2:23:39] that they receive it and are

[2:23:41] also then incorporating the

[2:23:44] feedback from this council into

[2:23:47] it. So, I can't say yes

[2:23:49] absolutely, because I -- it's

[2:23:51] just not me to over promise and

[2:23:54] underdlifrment but I can only

[2:23:54] say that we're absolutely

[2:23:56] hearing what you are saying, and

[2:23:58] would be happy to come back to

[2:23:59] this council to report back on

[2:24:01] the various things that you have

[2:24:03] offered today, as well as in

[2:24:05] previous meetings.

[2:24:06] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:24:06] thank you veronica.

[2:24:09] And last we have member -- or

[2:24:13] vice chair benitez. No? Okay.

[2:24:16] Well then, will the clerk please

[2:24:18] inform us of any public comment

[2:24:19] submitted for this item or

[2:24:20] whether there were any members

[2:24:23] of the public wishing to give

[2:24:26] public comment?

[2:24:27] >>clerk, jessica lewis: we

[2:24:28] received no written public

[2:24:29] comment for this item. There

[2:24:31] are no speakers at the podium

[2:24:33] and no raised hands in the zoom

[2:24:34] space wishing to provide public

[2:24:35] comment.

[2:24:35] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:24:36] thank you. So now we'll move

[2:24:38] over to agenda item number six

[2:24:40] which is the staff liaison

[2:24:41] report, an overview of the

[2:24:43] recent mtc and abag policy

[2:24:46] decisions and other activities.

[2:24:48] This is an information item.

[2:24:50] Ky-nam miller will you please

[2:24:53] give the report?

[2:24:55] >>ky-nam miller: gladly chair

[2:24:56] lieu. In addition to the

[2:24:57] written report acknowledging

[2:24:59] what you mentioned at the top of

[2:25:02] the meeting that we have the

[2:25:04] upcoming OCTOBER 29th workshop

[2:25:07] which jessica and I will e-mail

[2:25:11] out for our sps purposes along

[2:25:14] with the soon-to-be unveiled

[2:25:16] accessible futures proceedings

[2:25:18] report. Following up on my

[2:25:20] colleague veronica's excellent

[2:25:22] presentation that was made

[2:25:23] manifest took approximate a week

[2:25:26] ago AUGUST 24th when mtc and

[2:25:29] abag hosted the inaugural

[2:25:31] community partnership exchange

[2:25:37] which brought together 50

[2:25:38] representatives from 37

[2:25:41] community-based organizations to

[2:25:42] strengthen relationship and

[2:25:43] explore future collaborations

[2:25:47] my colleagues here on my left,

[2:25:48] matt maloney and my other

[2:25:50] colleagues vice chair diana

[2:25:52] benitez, both spoke at the group

[2:25:54] and staff shared efforts to

[2:25:57] improve cbo engagement including

[2:25:59] partner compensation streamline

[2:26:00] contracting better coordination

[2:26:02] and more continuous cocreation.

[2:26:06] There were 13 mtc abag teams who

[2:26:06] showcased 18 projects and

[2:26:08] programs giving cbo's

[2:26:10] opportunity to connect directly

[2:26:11] with staff and learn about

[2:26:16] current upcoming work. And I

[2:26:18] will send out professional

[2:26:20] photos that were taken from the

[2:26:22] event. There's also an update

[2:26:23] specific for our mind and

[2:26:25] visually impaired council

[2:26:26] members. The agency is moving

[2:26:29] away from granicus. The new

[2:26:31] system will not be granicus, and

[2:26:34] so we want to be aware of how

[2:26:35] that will impact folks who for

[2:26:39] example, don't read pdf's and

[2:26:41] need html based formats so I

[2:26:43] will reach out to members on

[2:26:45] this body to make sure that it's

[2:26:47] working for you all. But just

[2:26:50] giving you a head's up that in

[2:26:53] coming months or so that

[2:26:54] transition is happening and

[2:26:57] we're moving away from granicus.

[2:26:58] And I want to congratulate

[2:27:00] member balaji who I believe just

[2:27:02] started at cal and is going to

[2:27:06] be around. Are you a freshman?

[2:27:08] Yes. So yeah, go bears.

[2:27:09] Looking forward to having you

[2:27:10] for the next four years at least

[2:27:13] around here. That's it.

[2:27:13] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:27:16] thank you ky-nam. Is there

[2:27:19] council member discussion?

[2:27:30] Cushman then baldini. Curb cash

[2:27:34] I want to since ky-nam did bring

[2:27:36] up access all features I want to

[2:27:39] say that I do think that when

[2:27:41] matt maloney brought up the old

[2:27:43] working group that happened a

[2:27:46] while ago I hope we look at that

[2:27:47] again we hook add how that might

[2:27:50] be updated because I feel there

[2:27:52] are folks who were on that

[2:27:54] working group that are not as

[2:27:57] engaged as others. Perhaps

[2:27:59] that are engaged more strongly

[2:28:02] so I'm going to recommend that

[2:28:04] we take a look at that in terms

[2:28:06] of mtc is going to look at that

[2:28:07] working group as a touch tone

[2:28:09] moving forward. I really think

[2:28:11] it should be accurately

[2:28:12] reflecting people who are

[2:28:13] engaged at mtc. Thank you.

[2:28:14] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:28:15] thank you member cushman.

[2:28:18] Member baldini.

[2:28:20] >>michael baldini: I wanted to

[2:28:21] suggest for future agenda item

[2:28:23] I'll leave it you as board

[2:28:26] chair, but perhaps in our

[2:28:27] earlier discussion, that we

[2:28:29] explore establishing tenants for

[2:28:34] mtc that look at things like,

[2:28:36] you know, benefits, overall

[2:28:39] benefit to the system, to the

[2:28:40] actual transportation of the

[2:28:42] nine bay area counties, as far

[2:28:44] as projects. And, yes, I

[2:28:46] realize that might be outside of

[2:28:49] our scope, but at least some,

[2:28:51] sort of, tenant or pillar that

[2:28:54] we look at these projects from a

[2:28:59] cost benefit and how they add to

[2:29:04] our -- to the system, if you

[2:29:04] will. Thank you.

[2:29:05] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:29:07] noted. Thank you member

[2:29:11] baldini. Member madrid?

[2:29:20] >>alexander madrid: yeah, thank

[2:29:20] you

[2:29:25] you. Thank you for the update

[2:29:36] just curious I'm hear you

[2:29:39] correctly discussing the

[2:29:39] conversation with members and

[2:29:43] I'm curious what the staff and

[2:29:46] other work of public inn game

[2:29:56] does, and if you considered

[2:29:58] participation and stipends? I

[2:30:04] just want to have a clarifying

[2:30:08] question. So maybe ky-nam, can

[2:30:13] you clarify on that?

[2:30:15] >>ky-nam miller: sure. Through

[2:30:16] the chair.

[2:30:19] Council member madrid, I'm going

[2:30:22] to restate it as best, if I got

[2:30:25] this right, you asked about

[2:30:26] based on veronica cummings's

[2:30:29] presentation about compensating

[2:30:30] cbo's and group participants and

[2:30:31] how that relates with you being

[2:30:33] a can only member and basically

[2:30:34] different hats you might wear,

[2:30:36] like would you be getting a

[2:30:38] stipend versus paid for that

[2:30:41] experience. Is that right?

[2:30:43] >>alexander madrid: no. No.

[2:30:45] >>ky-nam miller: no?

[2:30:47] >>alexander madrid: no.

[2:30:52] My question was for the

[2:30:57] staffing, and I don't -- to do

[2:31:00] public engagement and outside of

[2:31:04] this events, and with things

[2:31:08] like that, does that consider us

[2:31:14] as participation, constituting a

[2:31:23] stipend? Or -- let me know,

[2:31:24] clarify?

[2:31:25] >>ky-nam miller: I'll restate

[2:31:26] it again now that I understand

[2:31:27] it better. You're asking if

[2:31:29] there is public engagement

[2:31:30] efforts that you are called to

[2:31:32] as a member of council to

[2:31:34] participate in, is that eligible

[2:31:38] for a stipend?

[2:31:41] >>alexander madrid: yes, I'm

[2:31:42] encouraged to participate in.

[2:31:43] >>ky-nam miller: there is

[2:31:45] precedent for that. But there

[2:31:47] would be a little more case by

[2:31:49] case review about which ones

[2:31:51] we're talking about, so

[2:31:52] certainly I'll work with my

[2:31:54] colleagues and legal counsel

[2:31:56] just it make sure we're

[2:31:58] absolutely clear about those

[2:31:59] opportunities and what if

[2:32:02] stipend are eligible for a

[2:32:03] stipend. I don't know if my

[2:32:05] colleagues have anything else to

[2:32:06] add?

[2:32:07] >>alexander madrid: thank you.

[2:32:08] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:32:09] okay. Thank you. Will the

[2:32:12] clerk let us know if there is

[2:32:13] any public comments submitted

[2:32:15] for this item or whether there

[2:32:16] are members of the public who

[2:32:17] wish to give public comment.

[2:32:18] >>clerk of the board: we

[2:32:19] received no written public

[2:32:20] comments for this item there are

[2:32:22] no speakers at the podium and no

[2:32:25] raised hands in the zoom space

[2:32:25] wishing to provide public

[2:32:26] comment.

[2:32:27] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:32:28] thank you now we will move to

[2:32:31] agenda item seven which is new

[2:32:33] business, this is an information

[2:32:34] item, members of the council can

[2:32:36] add new business. And actually

[2:32:40] would like to start us off with

[2:32:42] a report from member lavery from

[2:32:44] the regional network management

[2:32:47] customer advisory group. And

[2:32:51] then I'll take any hands raised.

[2:32:54] >>charles lavery: sure. Great.

[2:32:58] This is from the AUGUST rnm cag

[2:33:00] group. The meeting focused on

[2:33:04] two primary topics, the transit

[2:33:06] transformation action plan and

[2:33:10] the customer advisory group work

[2:33:16] plan through 20 --

[2:33:18] DECEMBER 2027. On the transit

[2:33:22] plan, the cag brought up

[2:33:24] advancing transit equity

[2:33:25] principles and exploring

[2:33:27] consistency related to safety

[2:33:30] and immigration enforcement

[2:33:32] practices. They looked at

[2:33:34] improving accessibility,

[2:33:35] including mobility management

[2:33:39] and one-seat paratransit

[2:33:40] options. And expressed an

[2:33:43] interest in future network

[2:33:45] planning efforts, including

[2:33:47] mascots and expanded fare

[2:33:50] integration options, similar to

[2:33:54] bay pass. On the customer

[2:33:57] advisory work plan, members

[2:33:59] generally supported the plan and

[2:34:00] recommended stronger

[2:34:01] communication and feedback loops

[2:34:06] between the cag and the rnm

[2:34:09] council. And earlier customer

[2:34:10] advisory group review of items

[2:34:13] before they advance to rnm

[2:34:16] decision-making bodies. More

[2:34:20] customer focused communication,

[2:34:24] and a periodic review of rnm

[2:34:26] performance measures. Greater

[2:34:28] attention to underbanked and

[2:34:31] unbanked populations, and

[2:34:34] consideration of international

[2:34:36] best practices to improve

[2:34:38] regional coordination. Most

[2:34:40] important take-away's, continued

[2:34:42] emphasis on equity,

[2:34:44] accessibility, and paratransit,

[2:34:46] and interest in regional fare

[2:34:48] integration, and desire for

[2:34:50] stronger customer engagement and

[2:34:51] communication.

[2:34:54] The body also approved the work

[2:34:56] plan through 2027.

[2:34:57] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:34:58] thank you for that. Appreciate

[2:34:59] it.

[2:35:00] Are there any other council

[2:35:01] members who would like to add

[2:35:06] new business?

[2:35:13] Member sbranti?

[2:35:15] >>speaker: good afternoon.

[2:35:20] It's past the 12:00 hour. This

[2:35:23] relates to our purview maybe

[2:35:25] just getting information and

[2:35:26] offering feedback. But

[2:35:31] reference the at the outset that

[2:35:33] bahfa and obviously critical

[2:35:34] importance that everything that

[2:35:38] we do as it relates to

[2:35:42] everything we do regional

[2:35:43] housing and transportation

[2:35:46] intrar play, and it might be a

[2:35:52] bit premature, I know those

[2:35:53] conversations reniche at this

[2:35:55] timing if possible at some point

[2:35:57] later this fall early next year

[2:35:59] would be good if we can get

[2:36:01] update about where things are

[2:36:02] what's being considered and have

[2:36:03] opportunity to offer some

[2:36:06] feedback or input because

[2:36:10] ultimately to get that adopts

[2:36:12] you're going to need broad

[2:36:13] community engagement support and

[2:36:16] I think being able to

[2:36:18] participate and enage at least

[2:36:20] as part of the process to relay

[2:36:23] maybe it's done through our

[2:36:24] council member sounds like he's

[2:36:25] a representative on that

[2:36:27] committee. But just food for

[2:36:28] thought.

[2:36:28] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:36:29] thank you. Any other council

[2:36:31] members with new business to

[2:36:33] add? Will the clerk please

[2:36:34] inform us of public comments

[2:36:35] submitted for this item whether

[2:36:37] there are members of the public

[2:36:39] who wish to provide public

[2:36:39] comment.

[2:36:40] >>clerk, jessica lewis: we

[2:36:41] received no written public

[2:36:42] comments for this item there are

[2:36:44] no speakers at the podium and no

[2:36:45] raised hands in the zoom space

[2:36:47] requesting to provide public

[2:36:47] comment.

[2:36:48] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:36:49] thank you. We'll move to agenda

[2:36:51] item eight which is public

[2:36:52] comment. This is an information

[2:36:54] item. Will the clerk please

[2:36:57] inform us if anyone from the

[2:37:00] public would like to submit --

[2:37:03] has submitted a comment or

[2:37:06] whether there are any members of

[2:37:07] the public who wish to give

[2:37:09] public comment?

[2:37:09] >>clerk, jessica lewis: we

[2:37:11] received no written public

[2:37:12] comments. No raised hands in

[2:37:14] the zoom space. We do two

[2:37:17] speaks wishing to approach the

[2:37:21] podium. Jane kraemer. You can

[2:37:22] go first.

[2:37:23] Chair, how many minutes would

[2:37:24] you like to give?

[2:37:25] >>chair, carina vinh lieu: two

[2:37:25] minutes.

[2:37:26] >>clerk, jessica lewis: thank

[2:37:38] you.

[2:37:39] >>jane kramer: I'm not quite

[2:37:42] sure how I want to say this, but

[2:37:45] here it goes. I think I heard a

[2:37:51] lot of people today saying

[2:37:55] communication between and among

[2:37:59] administration and the public is

[2:38:05] a matter of time and energy and

[2:38:08] attendance in membership. And

[2:38:09] that's saying a mouthful.

[2:38:13] Because there is a lot of

[2:38:16] cultural

[2:38:19] cultural, social unstated

[2:38:21] thoughts behind the words that

[2:38:28] are said.

[2:38:30] Everybody has their own

[2:38:33] assumptions and their own

[2:38:39] outlook on a particular issue.

[2:38:44] Something gets lost when it's

[2:38:48] put on the internet, and about,

[2:38:49] maybe, 90% of the communication

[2:38:52] gets lost. That's a barrier.

[2:38:55] And you have to come -- you have

[2:38:57] to overcome it. Because not

[2:38:58] everybody can attend a meeting

[2:39:06] at a given time on a given day.

[2:39:09] I think one person really was

[2:39:12] outstanding to me when she said

[2:39:17] the issue of effective

[2:39:20] communication is you find

[2:39:24] someone who is a pipeline, back

[2:39:26] and forth. And when you find

[2:39:29] that person, make sure that you

[2:39:34] don't unintentionally coopt that

[2:39:38] person. I'm going to leave it

[2:39:48] there. I have to think it's

[2:39:49] where I'm coming from.

[2:39:50] >>clerk, jessica lewis: thank

[2:39:51] you. Aleta dupree. Can you

[2:39:56] approach the podium you have two

[2:39:56] minutes.

[2:39:58] >>speaker: thank you chair for

[2:40:05] the record she and her with team

[2:40:10] folds. Good meeting today. A

[2:40:17] lot of it's abstract. It's very

[2:40:20] important. I'm used to

[2:40:43] operating but this comes. I can

[2:40:48] only share things. But I want

[2:40:49] public transportation to be here

[2:40:52] for me. I want this community

[2:40:54] to be affordable. So I can

[2:40:57] enjoy it when I come here. I

[2:40:59] want our community to be

[2:41:01] accessible. I'm a person with a

[2:41:03] disability. I have a house

[2:41:06] might who has disabilities.

[2:41:10] And I want to be able to use

[2:41:11] elevators and escalators and all

[2:41:14] the other kinds of tools in our

[2:41:16] toolbox. And I would like to

[2:41:19] see us move to a fully clipper

[2:41:22] based system. And we can do

[2:41:25] that and it won't exclude

[2:41:26] cashless. Because find change

[2:41:27] on the ground sometimes and I

[2:41:30] want a vending machine to put it

[2:41:32] in. In new york they're going

[2:41:34] to an all omni based system. I

[2:41:36] have 56 years of using the new

[2:41:37] york city subway, and I hope to

[2:41:39] see that famous transportation

[2:41:41] system soon. And but for now, I

[2:41:46] am here, and we have our subway

[2:41:49] with small s nearby. But

[2:41:51] anyway, I leave you with this.

[2:41:54] You can never have enough grand

[2:41:56] central terminal. Thank you.

[2:41:57] >>chair, carina vinh lieu:

[2:42:02] thank you. And since that was

[2:42:04] our last speaker, we get to move

[2:42:06] to agenda item nine, which is

[2:42:09] adjournment. Our next meeting

[2:42:11] of the regular mtc abag

[2:42:13] community advisory council will

[2:42:15] be held on OCTOBER 2nd. This

[2:42:17] meeting of the mtc abag

[2:42:18] community advisory council is

[2:42:22] adjourned. Thank you everyone.

[2:42:23] [Adjourned]

MTC ABAG Community Advisory Council on 2026-09-04 10:00 AM

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