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for you.
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University of miami education
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and human development.
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Also have florida international
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university, the institute for
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civic leadership.
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Miami dade college institute
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for civic engagement and
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democracy.
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The clio institute.
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Miami workers center.
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Hispanic unity of florida.
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Again, the mexican american
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council for getting the youth
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engaged.
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And we also have the prosperity
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social and community
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development group.
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Thank you to the community
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partners for making this
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happen.
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The mayor and the chair, the
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mayor will read it for you so
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you know what it says.
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>>mayor cava: for the photos
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you can take off your yellow
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stickers, that was to get you
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in the building and guess what?
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You arrived so that's great.
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To each of these fine
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organizations we say many
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appreciation, much
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appreciation, this is our
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certificate of appreciation, on
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behalf of the board and
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residents of miami dade county
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+3 million I take pleasure in
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presenting the certificate to
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you in recognition of your
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valuable contributions to our
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community and for your support
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and dedication in bringing
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miami-dade county next academy
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to life on this first day of
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the month of SEPTEMBER 2026
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miami dade county florida
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signed by commissioner bastien,
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CHAIRMAN Anthony rodriguez and
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myself as mayor.
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>>mayor cava: so where did
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these classes take place, how
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many of you attended in person?
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And where did you go?
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And what's the common
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denominator?
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Libraries.
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All right, and we are so
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pleased our library director
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lydia lopez is with us, please
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join us up here.
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Because our libraries are truly
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our most democratic
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institutions.
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And our libraries are always
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available to support our
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community so let's give a round
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of applause again to our
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libraries.
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Great, okay.
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All of our graduates.
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[Inaudible]
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>>mayor cava: all right all you
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wonderful graduates, so good.
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We will take it.
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Are we going to need 2, shall
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we put all people behind?
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You tell us, there is armando,
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she will direct us what we need
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away, like al did this change
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your life or your approach or
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your plans, what was your
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biggest take away, anyone want
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to offer?
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Okay, awesome.
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My name is tanisha paul and I
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lead a company called civico
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due to the flexibility of
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miami-dade county I had my
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little ones, but that being
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said one of the great takeaways
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for me was section 2. When we
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talk about community from a
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design standpoint that being
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the infrastructure, the
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institution, the people and I
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laugh a little because one of
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the great exercises was asset
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mapping.
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With the asset mapping which I
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did twice, but with the asset
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mapping it allowed me to map
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out something we're working on
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about place-based investment
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and redevelopment.
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So I won't go too much into
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that because I love the elders
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feedback but the program is
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great, all sections were cool
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but section 2 is near and dear
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to me.
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>> my name is arianna, a public
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servant and I work with the
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department of transportation
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and I also am part of nonprofit
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organizations, one of them
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being women in transportation
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where we work with the youth,
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k-12 students and lead them
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through career pathways and the
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most significant part of this
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civics academy was the
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networking with other people
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that attended.
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I believe the relationships I
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created during the civics
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academy will help me build a
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better future and to lift up
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the nonprofit organizations I
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work with.
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>> I'm bone needed jones
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peabody it was an amazing
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program.
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I was already involved in the
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brownsville civic neighborhood
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association, I have a
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non-for-profit, education means
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more access for pregnant teen
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moms but what it did for me was
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I had run for office, I did not
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win.
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I was discouraged when the
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opportunity came when someone
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asked me again having been part
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of this, I relished the
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opportunity to do it so now I'm
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running for office.
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Thank you so much.
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I'm in the runoff so see you in
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NOVEMBER, thank you.
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>> were going to move to
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breakfast but this is the
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perfect opportunity.
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So for those who are able to
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stay if there are issues you
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are speaking on show them all
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the amazing things.
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All right, thank you.
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>>
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mary, are you good morning,
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thank you for being here.
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Oday of course is SEPTEMBER 1
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which kicks off many things
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including childhood cancer
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awareness month and we have 2
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incredible organizations here
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this morning and we will start
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with mystic forest.
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As we know, the mystic forest
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foundation was founded 18 years
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ago in honor of salvador funny
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and is dedicated to supporting
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children and families affected
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by pediatric cancer through
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advocacy awareness amenity
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outreach programs that provide
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hold assistance and comfort
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throughout their cancer
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journey.
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Mystic forest foundation
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continues to raise awareness on
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childhood cancer, provide
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support for families and
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inspire communities to fight
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against pediatric cancer
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through compassion service and
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advocacy so therefore on behalf
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of our mayor whose right here
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our entire board of county
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commissioners and the community
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here we do proclaim, the month
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of SEPTEMBER 2026 as childhood
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cancer awareness month in
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miami-dade county.
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Why don't you come up here and
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I'll have the mayor say a few
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words and we would like to hear
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from you as well.
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>>mayor cava: I'm very pleased
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to join our wonderful
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commissioner mickey steinberg
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with this presentation and let
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me say mysteriously behind us
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as arrived this glorious
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bouquet which was presented to
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me and I had no idea it was
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this big.
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I said to bring it down but I
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think it's very fitting we
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should have this beautiful,
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vibrant bouquet of life and I'm
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wearing my butterfly for a
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ascendance so that is what this
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great program does.
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I didn't know about this
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program as I said earlier.
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What a wonderful way to help
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our children on their way to
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provide support because we know
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it's not just the medicine,
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it's the heart, it's the
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caring.
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It's the pouring love to those
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who've gone through challenging
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times that helps them on their
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way to fight back and win so
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thank you and congratulations
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and to the two young men who
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are here celebrating their own
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journey we congratulate you, we
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celebrate you and we give
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thanks to those who are here to
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embrace you on the way, thank
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you commission.
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>>commissioner steinberg: thank
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you for supporting our
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children, my journey started 18
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years ago when my baby was
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diagnosed with cancer.
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It was a long 3 and a half
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years, a devastating and
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torturous treatment for him but
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the one thing you always, his
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spirit was about always having
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fun and being able to enjoy
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life every moment that he
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could.
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For that us that is what we
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bring to our children,
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celebrating every day, giving
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them back some of the childhood
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that is always lost to a
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childhood cancer diagnosis and
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our children are in the
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hospital for a day or two,
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these children battled cancer
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for years they become part of
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our own family.
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The support we get from our
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community is truly exceptional
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and not seen anywhere in the
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country.
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Miami dade county, south
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florida is the most caring and
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wonderful community literally
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in the world and we are so
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thankful for all the support we
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receive.
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Since
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.
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>>.
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>>commissioner steinberg: our
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next presentation is also to a
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wonderful organizationand
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childhood cancer awareness week
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is observed each SEPTEMBER and
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the live like bella childhood
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cancer foundation was
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established in memory of bella
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rodriguez torres and is
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dedicated to changing childhood
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cancer from a terminal
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diagnosis to a treatable and
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curable disease by funding
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research, providing financial
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emotional support to families
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and advocating for children
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affected by cancer.
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The live like bella foundation
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has made up around profound
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impact supporting families
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through their cancer journey,
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advancing cancer research
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raising awareness and insuring
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children and their families
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have access to resources care
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and support they need so
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whereas miami dade counties
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does proclaim on behalf of the
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mayor, county commission and
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everybody SEPTEMBER 2026 as
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childhood cancer awareness
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month in honor of the live like
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bella and with that I will pass
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it to the mayor as well.
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>>mayor cava: thank you for
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making sure we pay tribute to
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the organizations that take
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care of our children during
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their greatest time of need.
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I have been part of this great
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organization for many years,
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bella was a resident of
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district 8 as well and of
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course we named a park in honor
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of bella in again district 8,
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these were things I got to do,
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so proud to do during my time
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as commissioner and since then
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we know the organization is
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grown to be a tremendous force
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for not only family support,
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child support but research and
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has been able to raise dollars
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and have breakthroughs for our
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children through that research
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so providing so much hope and
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every year with the run and the
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gala, many other events people
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are joining the movement
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because they see and are
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inspired by the great work of
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the family and the organization
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so congratulations.
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>> just want to say thank you
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again so much mayor and to
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reiterate what some of you
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mentioned miami is thankful
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your for your support efforts
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and awareness for our children
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battling cancer.
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Bella fought for 6 years before
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she passed away in 2013 and the
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support while she was fighting
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was so overwhelming and a
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blessing and the fact that the
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city and community are still
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supporting pediatric cancer
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awareness and funding and
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research is humbling and we are
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thankful and appreciative and i
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think bella's sister reynaud
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wants to say something.
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>> it's incredible to be here
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to stand alongside my mom and
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it's incredible what you're
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doing and we will continue to
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build and continue to live like
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bella until we find a cure.
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>>mayor cava: for anyone who
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knew bella, it was her spirit
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that moved people, so and
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really she is looking down on
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all of us this week on behalf
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of our children who make great
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progress and she's a special
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spirit, thank you and GOD
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bless.
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>>commissioner steinberg: a
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picture with both amazing
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organizations, why don't you
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tell us what's happening.
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>> this week we have our ninth
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annual childhood awareness gold
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ribbon parade, it's the largest
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parade in the world.
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Dedicated to childhood cancer.
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We have over 100 gold ribbon
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police cars, 50 police
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motorcycles.
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It is a police escorted caravan
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from nicholas children's
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hospital past hold children's
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hospital and alex's place,
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ronald Mcdonald house and joe
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dimaggio children's hospital.
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It's police escorted so you can
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see it on cbs news but also
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check out our social media and
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finally viewing routes.
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>>commissioner steinberg: now
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our final presentation, where
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acknowledging hunger action.
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So miami-dade county is
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altering well, feeding south
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florida for those who MAY not
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know I've been around since
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1981.
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And have worked to address food
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and hunger insecurity in
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miami-dade county providing the
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community with immediate access
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to nutritious food and other
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vital resources and support.
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Feeding south florida weaves on
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their efforts while
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transforming lives through
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innovative programming and
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provides economic growth and
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overall well-being so SEPTEMBER
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is also hunger action month on
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behalf of our mayor and county
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commission we do proclaim
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SEPTEMBER as hunger action
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month.
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>>mayor cava: in a former life,
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I my work was about connecting
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people to resources they needed
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especially in times of great
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need and food obviously is
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number one.
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Feeding south florida is our
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premier south florida
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organization located in the
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south day providing those
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services and it also provides
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it not just in miami-dade but
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around the state so we are very
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proud of the work and of the
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partnership between miami-dade
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county and feeding south
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florida and we know that
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whenever help is needed feeding
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south florida steps up,
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congratulations and thank you.
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>> good morning everyone.
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My name is cosmo and I'm the
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director of strategic efforts
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in miami-dade county and on
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behalf of our team I'd like to
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thank the city commissioners
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for recognizing SEPTEMBER.
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Feeding south florida is the
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relieving relief organization
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in palm beach broward
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miami-dade.
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E serve 1.7
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million individuals and here in
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miami-dade we provide
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nutritious services for 553,000
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households.
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through our new direct
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programs.
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Our work goes beyond food
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distribution, the community
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pantries ensure families have
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access to nutritious food, our
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school pantries for kids make
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sure children don't go hungry
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in the classroom, for older
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adults our benefits in outreach
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stretch two brothers, we invest
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in long-term stability to
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prepare individuals for careers
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in housing and logistics.
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These programs reflect our
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commitment not just to feeding
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families today but also to live
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a stronger hunger free south
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florida.
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We are grateful to the city of
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miami for this recognition and
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for your ongoing partnerships
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and helping us move closer to a
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community where no one will
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wonder where their next meal
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will come from.
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>>mayor cava: some might not be
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aware but there are changes at
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the federal level in the snap
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program and many families are
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losing their snap formerly
[31:31]
called food stamp benefits so
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our food banks are more
[31:34]
critical than ever to assist
[31:36]
our families and it really
[31:50]
needs our support, thank you.
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Since
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>>.
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[Break]
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>> we will start in spanish
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with catalina.
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[Speaking spanish]
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>> I'm one of the elders and
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this weekend we did the parade
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in wynnewood.
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It's a facility that takes
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place every year in the city of
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columbia where we will end
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actually this arrangement is
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made by people in the forums
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outside the city where they
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used to come and carry their
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products to the city but later
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on the they proceed with doing
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a festivity with them and be
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recognized because of their
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hard work.
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So they do this arrangement
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once a year so they go through
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the streets of the city and
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it's an honor for us to be here
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presenting this arrangement
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that was especially made for
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the mayor of miami-dade county.
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>> this was a surprise, they
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contacted me and said the
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flowers were not going to last
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much longer.
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They wanted to give me flowers
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and I said I would be here
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today, I have no idea.
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What this was.
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I'm really so honored and
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grateful.
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So we know what's happening in
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columbia right now.
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E are
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doing our best to recover from
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the devastating earthquake.
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This country, this county
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especially as was said for
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children with cancer is always
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showing care and we have been
[35:49]
sending care and relief to
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columbia but we know it will be
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a long recovery.
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The city of medellin was not
[35:55]
affected but the whole country
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is in mourning and we stand
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with the colombian people and I
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want to acknowledge on saturday
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I attended the 50th anniversary
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of the colombian american
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chamber of commerce in miami.
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[Speaking spanish] So
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incredible, did we get enough
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pictures of this beautiful
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display?
[36:50]
Thank you armando and I don't
[36:51]
know what we are going to do
[36:53]
now because obviously this will
[36:55]
dominate the morning if it's
[36:57]
left here so we need to find an
[36:58]
appropriate place.
[37:01]
Maybe we could put it in the
[37:03]
hallway to greet people as they
[37:05]
come in and they will see this
[37:06]
beautiful display, you have
[37:49]
something here?
[37:58]
And you know, columbia produces
[37:59]
most of the flowers that come
[38:01]
into the united states.
[38:06]
Mother's day, valentine's day
[38:07]
and I think it was something
[38:09]
like 90% of the flowers for
[38:11]
those holidays come through
[38:15]
miami international airport.
[38:19]
So it's a great joy for us to
[38:32]
celebrate columbia's flowers.
[38:37]
I think so, I'm not in the
[38:39]
charge of this space but in the
[38:40]
hallway outside, I will go with
[38:43]
you to show.
[38:45]
I think the rest of the meeting
[59:03]
[Break]
[59:14]
>>chair: all right guys, take
[59:20]
your seats, find a seat.
[59:22]
Unless you are press or law
[59:24]
enforcement you should not be
[59:25]
standing up.
[59:27]
And I need the podiums placed
[59:32]
where they go.
[59:41]
All right clerk please call the
[59:41]
roll.
[59:44]
>> clerk's office has received
[59:46]
notification commissioner
[59:47]
bastien will be absent from
[59:48]
today's meeting.
[59:50]
Cohen higgins period yay.
[59:51]
>>senator garcia:
[59:54]
>>commissioner gilbert:
[59:58]
>>commissioner gonzalez:
[1:00:00]
>>commissioner hardemon:
[1:00:01]
>>commissioner lopez:
[1:00:04]
>>commissioner milian orbis:
[1:00:06]
>>commissioner regalado:
[1:00:08]
>>commissioner steinberg:
[1:00:19]
>>commissioner mcghee:
[1:00:20]
>>chair: present.
[1:00:22]
>> we only have six members
[1:00:31]
present, we don't have a quorum
[1:00:31]
um.
[1:00:33]
>>chair: while we wait for a
[1:00:34]
quorum I'm going to ask you all
[1:00:42]
to pleasell to please stand up
[1:00:44]
quietly for that invocation
[1:00:46]
this morning given by pastor
[1:00:47]
carson of the granada church at
[1:00:49]
the invitation of commissioner
[1:00:51]
milian orbis followed by the
[1:00:53]
pledge of allegiance led by
[1:00:55]
commissioner r gilbert.
[1:00:57]
Thank you for the invitation to
[1:00:59]
pray with you today.
[1:01:00]
Let's close our eyes, bow our
[1:01:01]
heads and let's pray.
[1:01:20]
We heads and let's pray.
[1:01:21]
We seek your faith today on
[1:01:23]
behalf of our community
[1:01:25]
miami-dade county for all the
[1:01:27]
live work and serve here, we
[1:01:28]
give you thanks for this
[1:01:30]
beautiful place we call home
[1:01:32]
and for all who give themselves
[1:01:34]
for the good of our community.
[1:01:36]
Especially we pray for our
[1:01:37]
mayor, for family, for our
[1:01:39]
commissioners, thank you for
[1:01:41]
their willingness to serve for
[1:01:43]
the e responsibilities they
[1:01:43]
lities they
[1:01:44]
carry and the
[1:01:46]
families who support lies who
[1:01:47]
support them.
[1:01:49]
Lord as they undertake the
[1:01:50]
difficult work today especially
[1:01:52]
the work of preparing for a
[1:01:54]
budget grant them wisdom,
[1:01:55]
patience and discernment.
[1:01:57]
When resources are limited help
[1:01:59]
them recognize what matters.
[1:02:01]
Give them courage to make
[1:02:02]
difficult decisions, humility
[1:02:04]
to listen well and the grace to
[1:02:06]
when compromise will serve the
[1:02:07]
common good.
[1:02:08]
Help them work together with
[1:02:10]
respect even when they
[1:02:10]
disagree.
[1:02:12]
We pray also for all who have
[1:02:14]
come today to speak, to listen,
[1:02:16]
to participate, help us see one
[1:02:18]
another not as opponents but as
[1:02:20]
neighbors and fellow members of
[1:02:21]
this community each seeking
[1:02:23]
it's good and when today's work
[1:02:25]
is done help us to entrust what
[1:02:27]
has been decided to you, MAY
[1:02:29]
the work done one here
[1:02:31]
contribute to peace,
[1:02:32]
flourishing in the well-being
[1:02:34]
of all who call miami-dade
[1:02:35]
county home.
[1:02:36]
For this place, for these
[1:02:38]
people, for the privilege of
[1:02:39]
serving one another we give you
[1:02:41]
thanks so lord and we pray in
[1:02:41]
your name, amen.
[1:02:43]
>> I pledge of allegiance to
[1:02:45]
the flag of the united states
[1:02:47]
of america and to the republic
[1:02:49]
for which it stands, one nation
[1:02:51]
under GOD indivisible with
[1:02:53]
liberty and justice for all.
[1:02:57]
>>chair: you MAY be seated.
[1:03:02]
All right.
[1:03:04]
Welcome back guys, do we have
[1:03:06]
quorum now?
[1:03:08]
Let me see, before we do the
[1:03:31]
quorum call?
[1:03:35]
All right clerk, please call
[1:03:37]
the rule.
[1:03:42]
>>commissioner bermudez:
[1:03:43]
present.
[1:03:45]
>>commissioner cohen higgins:
[1:03:46]
present.
[1:03:48]
>>senator garcia:
[1:03:50]
>>commissioner gilbert:
[1:03:52]
>>commissioner gonzalez:
[1:03:54]
>>commissioner hardemon:
[1:03:57]
>>commissioner lopez: here.
[1:03:59]
>>commissioner milian orbis:
[1:04:01]
>>commissioner regalado:
[1:04:02]
present.
[1:04:04]
>>commissioner steinberg:
[1:04:06]
>>commissioner mcghee:
[1:04:09]
>>chair: I'm here.
[1:04:11]
>> we have nine members
[1:04:12]
present, we have a quorum.
[1:04:14]
>>chair: thank you, madam
[1:04:21]
attorney, is it in order to
[1:04:23]
admit reasonable opportunity at
[1:04:24]
this time.
[1:04:30]
>> yes MR. Chair, good morning.
[1:04:32]
>>chair: I will open up
[1:04:34]
reasonable opportunity for the
[1:04:35]
public to be heard, please
[1:04:37]
state your name and address and
[1:04:39]
the item on which you are
[1:04:40]
speaking of and you will have 1
[1:04:44]
minute to speak.
[1:04:45]
Victor antennas, please line
[1:04:47]
up, approached the podium and
[1:04:49]
as I call your name line up
[1:04:50]
beside each file.
[1:04:55]
[Reading names] None of these
[1:04:58]
people are here.
[1:05:02]
They are here.
[1:05:19]
Need you guys to approach the
[1:05:30]
podium.
[1:05:37]
>>public speaker: hello, my
[1:05:39]
name is nicole, I live at 795
[1:05:40]
southwest. 110th avenue.
[1:05:42]
I'm a student at florida
[1:05:53]
international university,
[1:05:55]
sustainability meeting we are
[1:05:57]
protecting the environment for
[1:05:58]
future generations which this
[1:06:00]
item does the exact opposite of
[1:06:02]
that, paving over wetlands or
[1:06:03]
our own convenience.
[1:06:05]
And I believe we should stop
[1:06:05]
all this.
[1:06:07]
I believe all of us can agree
[1:06:09]
we don't need any more houses,
[1:06:11]
we don't need any more homes,
[1:06:13]
there are so many vacant homes
[1:06:15]
in florida and warehouses and
[1:06:16]
beige buildings and as I miami
[1:06:18]
born represent resident we
[1:06:19]
don't want any more money going
[1:06:22]
to this so thank you.
[1:06:24]
>>public speaker: I am elena
[1:06:25]
lopez, 23rd avenue and I'm
[1:06:29]
speaking on this item, 4b which
[1:06:30]
proposes altering the
[1:06:42]
construction of our city.
[1:06:44]
We have to be very aware of the
[1:06:46]
overwhelming construction that
[1:06:47]
has already been happening and
[1:06:49]
all the taxpayer dollars, where
[1:06:51]
that has been going to.
[1:06:53]
The community is listening, the
[1:06:54]
youth is paying attention to
[1:06:55]
your every decision.
[1:06:57]
I came here on behalf of my
[1:06:59]
students, family members, loved
[1:07:01]
ones that share the same
[1:07:05]
opinions as me.
[1:07:07]
Please make responsible
[1:07:09]
decisions, use taxpayer dollars
[1:07:10]
responsibly and listen to the
[1:07:12]
what the people have to say
[1:07:13]
will give you your positions
[1:07:16]
and thank you.
[1:07:18]
>>public speaker: my name is
[1:07:19]
dave ian, 54791 northwest.
[1:07:21]
Second street, we are here to
[1:07:31]
speak on 4b.
[1:07:33]
We want to talk about general
[1:07:35]
development happening in
[1:07:36]
florida especially over nature
[1:07:38]
and taking our trees and the
[1:07:40]
community does not want this.
[1:07:41]
O matter what development it
[1:07:43]
is, the amount of jobs do not
[1:07:45]
reverse the damage that would
[1:07:46]
happen to our animals,
[1:07:48]
especially in the everglades.
[1:07:56]
We just want our community to
[1:07:57]
benefit and our future
[1:07:59]
generations are just going to
[1:08:01]
look over a concrete jungle and
[1:08:03]
wonder what happened so your
[1:08:04]
honor, the position to
[1:08:05]
represent us so represent us
[1:08:07]
and our needs over the
[1:08:08]
corporations wants, thank you
[1:08:09]
for your time.
[1:08:11]
>>public speaker: hello
[1:08:12]
commissioners and CHAIRMAN,
[1:08:14]
sophia mayor, 1172 fountain
[1:08:17]
blue boulevard miami florida
[1:08:18]
and I wanted to speak about
[1:08:20]
item at 4b and warden board
[1:08:21]
members to be educated about
[1:08:23]
our agenda item being voted on,
[1:08:25]
every vote matters because we
[1:08:27]
need positive impacts that will
[1:08:29]
benefit residents, great power
[1:08:31]
comes responsibility.
[1:08:33]
Taking accountability with
[1:08:34]
integrity and compassion is
[1:08:36]
vital for making an impact
[1:08:38]
whether that's creating
[1:08:39]
affordable housing, protecting
[1:08:42]
first amendment expressions and
[1:08:44]
preserving our environment from
[1:08:46]
harmful developments such as
[1:08:48]
kelly tractors and etc. The
[1:08:49]
existing udp boundaries there
[1:08:51]
to protect the last remaining
[1:08:53]
wetland so what does that send
[1:08:55]
from elected officials,
[1:08:57]
businesses can drive but it
[1:08:58]
shouldn't be at the expense of
[1:09:04]
wildlife and wetlands we need
[1:09:05]
and benefit from.
[1:09:07]
If there's something I want
[1:09:09]
commissioners to remember is
[1:09:10]
that we can all work together
[1:09:12]
and reach a common ground, we
[1:09:14]
don't have to see each other as
[1:09:16]
a burden but an outlet for
[1:09:16]
change.
[1:09:17]
It's never too late to care
[1:09:19]
about each other and rc.
[1:09:21]
>>chair: is that it?
[1:09:22]
I have joseph and victor.
[1:09:24]
Going once, going twice.
[1:09:31]
Then I have our tax collector,
[1:09:33]
dario fernandez who is not able
[1:09:35]
to have made it but he has a
[1:09:36]
prepared video to share during
[1:09:38]
his moment of opportunity.
[1:09:53]
Do you want to say something
[1:09:54]
first.
[1:09:54]
Go ahead.
[1:09:56]
> met on that mayor my name
[1:09:58]
is andrew lopez, director of
[1:10:00]
motor services at the office of
[1:10:01]
the miami-dade county tax
[1:10:03]
collector and on behalf of the
[1:10:04]
dario fernandez we have an
[1:10:06]
important video message we like
[1:10:16]
to share with this board.
[1:10:18]
>> good morning mayor and
[1:10:19]
residents of miami dade county,
[1:10:21]
I have miami-dade county tax
[1:10:22]
collector.
[1:10:24]
german rodriguez thank you for
[1:10:25]
working with me.
[1:10:26]
And my team on this important
[1:10:27]
issue.
[1:10:29]
Today I am confirming that our
[1:10:30]
roadways commission under the
[1:10:32]
approved school board millage
[1:10:34]
for the year 2026 2027.
[1:10:35]
This will save miami-dade
[1:10:37]
county residents more than 30
[1:10:37]
million.
[1:10:40]
I asked the commission to use
[1:10:41]
this savings for property tax
[1:10:46]
relief and to protect police
[1:10:48]
fire rescue and emergency
[1:10:49]
response and other essential
[1:10:50]
services.
[1:10:51]
His year we expect
[1:10:54]
97 million to be returned to
[1:10:56]
all taxing authorities
[1:10:58]
including 84 million that will
[1:10:59]
benefit miami dade county
[1:11:00]
residents.
[1:11:03]
This includes that 20 million
[1:11:09]
returned hourly in APRIL and 64
[1:11:10]
million expected to be returned
[1:11:13]
at the end of the fiscal year.
[1:11:14]
Miami's financial management
[1:11:17]
has allowed us to operate
[1:11:19]
without requesting up to 24
[1:11:24]
million in advances that we
[1:11:26]
were entitled to receive.
[1:11:28]
Our office also does not
[1:11:31]
collect the 2% commission of
[1:11:33]
incorporated areas under
[1:11:36]
municipalities.
[1:11:38]
3% is 40 million in savings for
[1:11:39]
miami-dade county residents.
[1:11:43]
Let me be very clear, no other
[1:11:45]
tax collector in florida does
[1:11:46]
this.
[1:11:48]
And all of these savings are
[1:11:55]
being achieved without
[1:11:56]
affecting our services.
[1:11:59]
I believe it's important to do
[1:12:01]
everything we can to help our
[1:12:07]
residents while continuing to
[1:12:08]
provide a quality service they
[1:12:09]
depend on.
[1:12:11]
To the residents of miami-dade
[1:12:13]
county, we are coming here to
[1:12:15]
lower your taxes supporting our
[1:12:17]
public schools, protecting our
[1:12:18]
police and keeping the
[1:12:23]
important service you depend on
[1:12:25]
300 thank you GOD bless
[1:12:26]
miami-dade county and GOD bless
[1:12:32]
the united states of america.
[1:12:34]
>> we submitted a letter to the
[1:12:36]
clerk to distribute to everyone
[1:12:39]
of you detailing everything MR.
[1:12:41]
Fernandez covered in the video
[1:12:42]
and if you have questions we
[1:12:44]
are here to respond.
[1:12:46]
>>chair: the mayor and myself
[1:12:47]
have been speaking with the tax
[1:12:49]
collector and we wrote him a
[1:12:51]
letter to try to get him and
[1:12:52]
he's agreed so this as you
[1:12:57]
mentioned is $13 million that
[1:12:59]
will be outlined in the the
[1:13:00]
mayor's change memo.
[1:13:02]
So personally I'd like to thank
[1:13:04]
the tax collector for his
[1:13:05]
partnership and commitment as
[1:13:07]
he did last year working with
[1:13:08]
the county to deliver the
[1:13:09]
savings.
[1:13:10]
Thank you MR. Tax collector.
[1:13:12]
MADAM Attorney is it in order
[1:13:17]
to set the agenda at this time.
[1:13:19]
>> I apologize but I have just
[1:13:21]
received some additional
[1:13:22]
requests and need a few
[1:13:23]
minutes.
[1:13:40]
>>chair: take your time.
[1:13:41]
>>chair: I also need director
[1:13:45]
lord is to read a statement.
[1:13:46]
>> that can be read now.
[1:13:51]
>> is the director in the
[1:13:51]
building.
[1:13:55]
While we have the attorneys
[1:13:58]
summarize the agenda changes.
[1:14:04]
Director I know it's just a
[1:14:05]
protocol stating you need to
[1:14:07]
read, if you could go ahead and
[1:14:12]
put that notice on the record.
[1:14:14]
>> lourdes gomez, rer, 6.800
[1:14:16]
florida statutes requires a
[1:14:18]
notice of public hearing on a
[1:14:20]
resolution designating a
[1:14:21]
brownfield area be announced at
[1:14:23]
a scheduled meeting before the
[1:14:25]
actual public hearing.
[1:14:29]
This announcement serves as
[1:14:31]
notice a public hearing on the
[1:14:32]
resolution relating to a
[1:14:34]
proposed brownfield area
[1:14:35]
designation is being planned
[1:14:37]
for this board's OCTOBER 6
[1:14:38]
meeting.
[1:14:40]
The proposed designation is for
[1:14:41]
the property at 7248 southwest
[1:14:45]
42nd terrace, miami-dade
[1:14:45]
county.
[1:14:50]
All right, met an attorney I'm
[1:15:11]
ready when you're ready.
[1:15:15]
And while we wait.
[1:15:22]
While we wait I want to
[1:15:24]
recognize vice-mayor rhonda
[1:15:25]
anderson from coral gables, I
[1:15:27]
believe she's in the chamber,
[1:15:28]
welcome to our chamber.
[1:15:30]
I'm sure you're here for a
[1:15:31]
specific item are you in
[1:15:37]
support or against an item.
[1:15:39]
>> in support of an item and if
[1:15:40]
I MAY, rhonda anderson.
[1:15:42]
Vice-mayor city of coral gables
[1:15:44]
business address 284 minard
[1:16:14]
avenue, 2015 hernando street.
[1:16:16]
Thank you chair for the
[1:16:17]
recognition, mayor and
[1:16:18]
commissioners for the
[1:16:19]
opportunity to speak.
[1:16:21]
I came here to thank
[1:16:22]
commissioner orbis for
[1:16:24]
entertaining the resolution I
[1:16:26]
brought to extend the life of
[1:16:27]
trolleys in our city and for
[1:16:29]
other municipalities as well.
[1:16:31]
As the daughter of an airline
[1:16:33]
mechanic and automotive
[1:16:34]
mechanic unaware of the test
[1:16:36]
used to develop the viability
[1:16:38]
of engines beyond the 15 year
[1:16:40]
previous mark and I would
[1:16:41]
appreciate your support in
[1:16:43]
helping our city of taxpayer
[1:16:45]
dollars by extending them to 20
[1:16:46]
years, thank you for your time
[1:16:47]
all right.
[1:16:49]
I think we have another meeting
[1:16:51]
do on thursday so I won't get a
[1:16:53]
head of my colleague but wish
[1:16:54]
everybody a happy rosh
[1:16:54]
hashanah.
[1:16:56]
We still have another meeting
[1:16:58]
before it starts officially.
[1:16:59]
We still see each other before
[1:17:00]
then.
[1:17:13]
Yes, sure.
[1:17:15]
MADAM Clerk, if you'd like to
[1:17:17]
make the announcement at this
[1:17:19]
time as we await the attorney.
[1:17:24]
>> the villalobos award
[1:17:25]
recognizes parents who been
[1:17:27]
inspired by the memory of a
[1:17:29]
lost child and have it taken
[1:17:31]
action to influence the munity.
[1:17:32]
Pursuant to the award
[1:17:34]
procedures for the second
[1:17:35]
nomination for 2026 vice
[1:17:37]
CHAIRMAN Mcgee nominates tracy
[1:17:39]
lyons and commissioner
[1:17:41]
steinberg nominates sherry
[1:17:42]
silverman on behalf of the
[1:17:44]
organization we play for.
[1:17:45]
The presentations of the
[1:17:47]
vilomah awards will take place
[1:17:51]
tuesday, OCTOBER 6.
[1:17:54]
>>chair: thank you MADAM Clerk.
[1:18:04]
MADAM Attorney are we almost
[1:18:05]
there?
[1:18:06]
Let me welcome also our MADAM
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Sheriff to our chamber.
[1:18:12]
Thank you for being here for a
[1:18:14]
special recognition we have
[1:18:16]
today and hopefully we will be
[1:18:17]
passing it as an item in short
[1:18:18]
order.
[1:18:20]
MADAM Sheriff I wonder whenever
[1:18:21]
there is business that needs to
[1:18:24]
be done here you really fill
[1:18:27]
this room with your officers
[1:18:28]
and I cannot help but think who
[1:18:35]
is safeguarding our streets
[1:18:37]
because every officer in miami
[1:18:39]
seems to be in this chamber
[1:18:43]
right now.
[1:18:45]
>> thank you MR. Chair.
[1:18:47]
>>chair: MADAM Attorney go
[1:18:49]
ahead.
[1:18:50]
>> we have a number of
[1:18:52]
requested changes to your
[1:19:05]
agenda, item 3a1, senator
[1:19:07]
garcia and commissioners
[1:19:08]
bermudez and milian orbis are
[1:19:10]
adding this item to the whole
[1:19:12]
list, 382 ended supplements
[1:19:14]
senator garcia and bermudez add
[1:19:15]
their names to the pull list.
[1:19:17]
Item 4c, prime sponsor has
[1:19:19]
requested deferral of this item
[1:19:21]
to the OCTOBER 6 commission
[1:19:21]
meeting.
[1:19:23]
Have some requests
[1:19:31]
to bifurcate public hearing
[1:19:31]
items.
[1:19:33]
5e substitute, senator garcia
[1:19:36]
and commissioners bermudez and
[1:19:37]
regalado wish to bifurcate and
[1:19:39]
that is true for 5e substitute,
[1:19:41]
5f substitute, 5g substitute
[1:19:43]
and 5h substitute, 5m,
[1:19:52]
commissioner tran seven, 5p and
[1:19:54]
5u just bifurcate,
[1:19:56]
commissioners gonzalez and
[1:19:57]
regalado wish to bifurcate as
[1:20:01]
well as 5y ended supplement, a
[1:20:03]
request to bifurcate items
[1:20:16]
first second reading, 7a, 7d,
[1:20:18]
senator garcia is requesting to
[1:20:20]
bifurcate but the sponsor has
[1:20:22]
requested deferral to know date
[1:20:23]
certain so the board would
[1:20:25]
decide how it wishes to
[1:20:26]
proceed, that's item 7d.
[1:20:29]
7e and supplements commissioner
[1:20:30]
gonzales and lopez wish to
[1:20:31]
bifurcate this item.
[1:20:34]
7f and supplements commissioner
[1:20:36]
regalado wishes to bifurcate.
[1:20:38]
8a3, commissioner regalado adds
[1:20:41]
this item to the pull list.
[1:20:47]
8a4 ended supplement and 8a5
[1:20:50]
ended supplement commissioner
[1:20:51]
bermudez is adding these items
[1:20:53]
to the pull list.
[1:20:58]
8g1, senator garcia pulls this
[1:20:58]
item.
[1:21:00]
8k1, commissioner gilbert is
[1:21:04]
pulling this item.
[1:21:06]
8n5, commissioner regalado is
[1:21:12]
adding this item to the pull
[1:21:13]
list.
[1:21:15]
8p1, commissioners bermudez and
[1:21:16]
milian orbis at this item to
[1:21:19]
the pull list.
[1:21:21]
11a1, commissioner bermudez is
[1:21:23]
pulling the item.
[1:21:26]
11a3, commissioner steinberg is
[1:21:31]
pulling the item and 11a4,
[1:21:32]
commissioner regalado is
[1:21:34]
pulling this item and I have a
[1:21:36]
request for cosponsorship, 3a2
[1:21:38]
commissioner regalado, 5c
[1:21:44]
commissioner steinberg, 5x and
[1:21:47]
5y, commissioner regalado.
[1:22:01]
8h2, commissioner regalado and
[1:22:03]
10a2 commissioner lopez, items
[1:22:05]
to be considered on today's
[1:22:07]
meeting will be those listed in
[1:22:08]
the final printed agenda with
[1:22:09]
additions deferrals and
[1:22:11]
scriveners errors noted in the
[1:22:13]
CHAIRMAN's memorandum and the
[1:22:15]
items I mentioned we had
[1:22:16]
commission will approve all
[1:22:18]
items by a single low setting
[1:22:20]
the agenda except ordinances
[1:22:22]
for first reading, public
[1:22:23]
hearings, item 6a1 to reduce
[1:22:25]
inefficiencies at procurement,
[1:22:27]
ordinances set for second
[1:22:29]
reading, items 8p2 and 8p3,
[1:22:30]
airport contracts which must be
[1:22:32]
voted on separately and are not
[1:22:34]
on your pull list on the
[1:22:38]
following pull list items.
[1:22:43]
3a1 ended supplement, 3a2 ended
[1:22:44]
supplement.
[1:22:49]
Requests to bifurcate our 5e
[1:22:52]
substitute, 5f substitute, 5g
[1:23:06]
substitute, 5m, 5u, 5y ended
[1:23:07]
supplements, 7d and on 7d
[1:23:09]
senator garcia wishes to
[1:23:10]
bifurcate but there is a
[1:23:13]
deferral requested to know date
[1:23:14]
certain.
[1:23:16]
he's released his request so
[1:23:17]
with the setting of the agenda
[1:23:19]
7d will be deferred, 7e ended
[1:23:23]
supplements, 7f.
[1:23:31]
8a3 ended supplements, 8g1,
[1:23:38]
8k1, 11a1, 11a4, I will read
[1:23:39]
that item with the other first
[1:23:45]
readings, 14a2, 14a3 is a
[1:24:01]
public hearing and 14a4, a
[1:24:03]
motion to set the agenda is in
[1:24:04]
order.
[1:24:06]
>>chair: motion by commissioner
[1:24:07]
gonzalez, second by
[1:24:08]
commissioner steinberg, those
[1:24:10]
in favor of setting the agenda
[1:24:12]
with every single item being
[1:24:14]
pulled, signified by saying
[1:24:14]
aye.
[1:24:16]
Opposed, nay. Should show the
[1:24:17]
agenda hereby set.
[1:24:19]
>>commissioner gilbert: I had a
[1:24:20]
question on 8k1 I had my
[1:24:22]
question answered so I will
[1:24:22]
release.
[1:24:24]
>> it will pass as soon as you
[1:24:25]
take a motion.
[1:24:27]
>>chair: we all voted.
[1:24:29]
>>commissioner gilbert: I move
[1:24:31]
8k1.
[1:24:32]
>>chair: all in favor signify
[1:24:34]
by saying aye.
[1:24:36]
Opposed, nay., show 8k1 past as
[1:24:36]
well.
[1:24:49]
I'm going to go into first
[1:24:49]
reading items.
[1:24:51]
At this time since this should
[1:24:52]
be quick.
[1:24:54]
So MADAM Attorney please read
[1:24:56]
the first reading items.
[1:25:00]
And any bifurcations we have.
[1:25:12]
>> 4a establishes section 2 436
[1:25:13]
of the code creating a
[1:25:15]
behavioral health advisory
[1:25:17]
board trust fund and providing
[1:25:19]
severability inclusion in the
[1:25:21]
code and an effective date, 4b
[1:25:23]
relates to comprehensive
[1:25:25]
development master plan
[1:25:55]
providing disposition of
[1:25:57]
application cdmp 2021 between
[1:25:59]
southwest 272 street and 278
[1:26:00]
street and between southwest
[1:26:02]
157 avenue and 159 avenue filed
[1:26:04]
by lennar homes llc and the
[1:26:06]
cycle to an end the counties
[1:26:08]
comprehensive delegate master
[1:26:10]
plan providing severability
[1:26:12]
exclusion from the code and an
[1:26:14]
effective date, 4 deed grants
[1:26:16]
petition of acacia grove
[1:26:17]
community development district
[1:26:19]
generally bounded as amended on
[1:26:21]
the north by southwest 336
[1:26:22]
street on the east by southwest
[1:26:24]
192 avenue and on the sxsw 340
[1:26:26]
street and on the west by
[1:26:28]
southwest 197 avenue amending
[1:26:29]
the boundaries of the district
[1:26:31]
to expand its total acreage by
[1:26:33]
approximately 9.88 acres
[1:26:35]
providing severability,
[1:26:37]
exclusion from the code and an
[1:26:38]
effective date.
[1:26:39]
4e grants petition of newton
[1:26:42]
road community development
[1:26:48]
district bounded on the north
[1:26:50]
amending the boundaries of the
[1:26:51]
district to expand its total
[1:26:53]
acreage by approximately 20.87
[1:26:56]
acres providing severability
[1:26:58]
exclusion from the code and an
[1:26:59]
effective date and 14 a one
[1:27:01]
relates to zoning and
[1:27:02]
out-of-the-way plan in the
[1:27:04]
incorporated area amending
[1:27:05]
section 133 of the code
[1:27:07]
providing reduced minimum
[1:27:09]
street with requirements in the
[1:27:10]
right-of-way plan for southwest
[1:27:12]
47 avenue from southwest 72
[1:27:14]
street to southwest 82 street
[1:27:16]
providing severability
[1:27:18]
exclusion in the code and an
[1:27:20]
effective date, those are your
[1:27:22]
first reading items.
[1:27:23]
>>chair: any bifurcations,
[1:27:25]
seeing no bifurcations we have
[1:27:26]
a motion.
[1:27:28]
Moved by commissioner gonzalez,
[1:27:30]
second by commissioner regalado
[1:27:32]
cohen higgins, clerk please
[1:27:34]
call the roll.
[1:27:36]
>>commissioner bermudez:
[1:27:38]
>>commissioner cohen higgins:
[1:27:38]
for.
[1:27:40]
>>senator garcia:
[1:27:42]
>>commissioner gonzalez: for.
[1:27:44]
>>commissioner gilbert:
[1:27:46]
>>commissioner hardemon: for.
[1:27:48]
>>commissioner lopez: yes.
[1:27:50]
>>commissioner milian orbis:
[1:27:52]
>>commissioner regalado: yes.
[1:27:54]
>>commissioner steinberg:
[1:27:55]
>>chair: I vote yes.
[1:27:57]
>> motion passes unanimously.
[1:27:59]
>>chair: show first reading
[1:28:00]
items past, I'm going to get
[1:28:02]
into public hearing items and
[1:28:04]
take them a little bit out of
[1:28:04]
order.
[1:28:06]
We will do public hearing as
[1:28:07]
though order comes as well
[1:28:08]
rather than in front.
[1:28:10]
I'm going to start if you can
[1:28:21]
read 5x and five
[1:28:23]
>> yes MR. Chair, 5x is a
[1:28:24]
resolution code designating
[1:28:26]
that portion of southwest 132nd
[1:28:28]
avenue between 104th street and
[1:28:30]
south colusa club drive as
[1:28:32]
deputy sheriff devon matthew
[1:28:33]
way and it supplement.
[1:28:35]
And 5y names the football field
[1:28:37]
at devon airpark as the deputy
[1:28:38]
sheriff devon matthew field and
[1:28:39]
it supplement.
[1:28:41]
And this is a public hearing
[1:28:46]
items, I do have requests to
[1:28:47]
bifurcate.
[1:28:48]
>>chair: I will open public
[1:28:50]
hearing at this time, don't
[1:28:57]
have anyone signed up to speak
[1:28:59]
but if the sheriff wants to say
[1:29:00]
a few words.
[1:29:01]
If the family wants to say a
[1:29:03]
few words this would be the
[1:29:05]
opportunity for you all to say
[1:29:07]
a couple words, MADAME Sheriff.
[1:29:09]
>> good morning CHAIRMAN, good
[1:29:10]
morning all commissioners
[1:29:12]
elected officials and everyone
[1:29:14]
who came here this morning.
[1:29:20]
This is an important moment for
[1:29:21]
us and our agency and our
[1:29:22]
community.
[1:29:23]
Devon jaramillo gave his life
[1:29:25]
in service to this community
[1:29:27]
and this is a small moment we
[1:29:28]
can honor him, honor his
[1:29:30]
family, honor his sacrifice and
[1:29:31]
his memory for years to come.
[1:29:44]
We are very grateful for this
[1:29:46]
board to consider this
[1:29:46]
proposal.
[1:29:48]
And I humbly ask on behalf of
[1:29:50]
the family, on behalf of every
[1:29:52]
man and woman who works for the
[1:29:54]
miami-dade sheriff's office
[1:29:55]
that you approve and move
[1:29:57]
forward with the naming of the
[1:29:58]
street and of the park for
[1:30:00]
devon jaramillo, thank you very
[1:30:01]
much.
[1:30:03]
>>chair: does anyone from the
[1:30:04]
family want to say anything.
[1:30:06]
>> good morning, my name is
[1:30:10]
david jaramillo, the father of
[1:30:11]
devon matthew jaramillo.
[1:30:15]
CHAIRMAN Rodriguez and
[1:30:19]
commissioner regalado, I want
[1:30:21]
to thank you all for taking
[1:30:29]
this motion into consideration,
[1:30:31]
and ask the support you guys
[1:30:33]
and the community have given to
[1:30:35]
the family in keeping my son's
[1:30:40]
spirit alive and I just want to
[1:30:44]
say thank you on behalf of his
[1:30:46]
mother and the rest of our
[1:30:50]
family here and our brothers
[1:30:52]
and sisters in the back, thank
[1:30:54]
you so much and I hope you will
[1:30:58]
pass this unanimously, thank
[1:30:58]
you.
[1:31:04]
>>chair: thank you david.
[1:31:06]
So public hearing is officially
[1:31:12]
closed, I'm sure that your
[1:31:13]
cosponsor, I will recognize you
[1:31:14]
in a minute.
[1:31:18]
I want to say devon wasn't just
[1:31:23]
born here and raised here but
[1:31:25]
he ultimately gave his life
[1:31:27]
protecting this community that
[1:31:28]
he so very loved.
[1:31:29]
Service was in his blood.
[1:31:34]
He grew up in law enforcement
[1:31:36]
they law enforcement family and
[1:31:38]
followed in the footsteps of
[1:31:39]
his father david a retired
[1:31:44]
police detective and devon went
[1:31:45]
on to proudly wear his father's
[1:31:47]
badge number 1765.
[1:31:49]
That david, you carried your
[1:32:05]
whole career.
[1:32:07]
His heart for helping others
[1:32:09]
started early before becoming a
[1:32:10]
deputy volunteer in this
[1:32:12]
community including helping
[1:32:14]
collect and distribute
[1:32:15]
christmas toys to kids in need,
[1:32:17]
he served with distinction at
[1:32:19]
the coral gables police
[1:32:21]
department before joining the
[1:32:22]
sheriff's office where he came
[1:32:24]
home to serve the kendall
[1:32:26]
community where he grew up but
[1:32:27]
devon was more than a deputy,
[1:32:29]
he was a loving son, a brother,
[1:32:31]
friend and colleague and he was
[1:32:33]
someone people could count on,
[1:32:34]
someone who looked out for the
[1:32:35]
people he loved.
[1:32:37]
Those who knew him remember the
[1:32:39]
simple moments that made him
[1:32:40]
who he was.
[1:32:41]
Riding motorcycles with his
[1:32:58]
dad, stopping for a cafecito
[1:32:59]
and spending time with family
[1:33:00]
and friends.
[1:33:01]
Is life was far
[1:33:02]
beyond social work and his
[1:33:04]
impact will last forever.
[1:33:05]
He represented the best of
[1:33:07]
miami-dade, a young man who
[1:33:08]
honored his family, loved his
[1:33:10]
community and made the ultimate
[1:33:12]
sacrifice protecting the place
[1:33:13]
he called home.
[1:33:15]
We will remember his service,
[1:33:17]
remember and honor his service
[1:33:19]
and never forget him really we
[1:33:21]
unfortunately hear about
[1:33:22]
passings of law enforcement
[1:33:24]
officers, first responders more
[1:33:25]
often than we'd like, the
[1:33:27]
sheriff was at the forefront
[1:33:29]
and it impacts the entire
[1:33:30]
community when something
[1:33:32]
happens and for me devon was
[1:33:33]
the first since I've been
[1:33:35]
elected that I knew and called
[1:33:37]
friend so it was more personal
[1:33:38]
and special to me and he
[1:33:40]
definitely hit a different part
[1:33:42]
of my heart so that's why
[1:33:44]
commissioner regalado and
[1:33:45]
myself and this board and this
[1:33:47]
commission is honoring him,
[1:33:49]
naming a street and a football
[1:33:54]
field devon jaramillo away and
[1:33:56]
with your support we will get
[1:33:58]
that past and with that I will
[1:34:00]
transfer to my cosponsor
[1:34:01]
commissioner regalado, thank
[1:34:03]
you for doing this.
[1:34:04]
>>commissioner regalado: thank
[1:34:06]
you for your support and to the
[1:34:08]
family and all the officers
[1:34:10]
here and the residence, one of
[1:34:12]
the saddest things we do is
[1:34:21]
name streets.
[1:34:23]
It's usually not for happy
[1:34:23]
reasons.
[1:34:25]
And for us it's such a
[1:34:26]
tremendous loss and as the
[1:34:28]
CHAIRMAN Mentioned for those of
[1:34:30]
us who knew devon and his
[1:34:31]
family he was such an amazing
[1:34:32]
light.
[1:34:33]
It's an honor to honor him with
[1:34:35]
this street and the field and
[1:34:37]
my hope is when people drive
[1:34:39]
down and see the name on the
[1:34:43]
street they will google it and
[1:34:44]
learn about him and future
[1:34:46]
generations will also honor his
[1:34:48]
service and for all the kids
[1:34:49]
that play on that same field
[1:34:51]
they will grow up knowing who
[1:34:53]
he was and the great sacrifice
[1:34:54]
he made.
[1:34:56]
i know nothing can make this
[1:34:58]
easier but you have respect and
[1:35:00]
admiration for your sacrifice
[1:35:02]
and for your families
[1:35:03]
dedication to public service.
[1:35:22]
He was an outstanding human and
[1:35:24]
his parents, that's all we can
[1:35:26]
do is raise good humans and
[1:35:28]
hope we make the world a better
[1:35:29]
place and in this case you did
[1:35:31]
that and so much more because
[1:35:33]
not only make the world a
[1:35:34]
better place, he reminds us all
[1:35:36]
of the sacrifice and love and
[1:35:38]
heart that goes into serving
[1:35:39]
the community so thank you, it
[1:35:40]
is an honor.
[1:35:42]
District 7 is blessed to have
[1:35:43]
seen him grow up and honor him
[1:35:45]
and his legacy.
[1:35:46]
>>chair: do you want to make
[1:35:48]
the motion to move 5x and 5y?
[1:35:50]
Seconded by commissioner
[1:35:52]
steinberg, commissioner
[1:35:54]
gonzalez you are recognized.
[1:35:55]
>>commissioner gonzalez: I like
[1:35:58]
to thank the sponsoring
[1:35:59]
commissioner and I would like
[1:36:01]
to ask to be included as a
[1:36:02]
co-prime sponsor on this and
[1:36:04]
I'm sure my colleagues would
[1:36:04]
like do the same.
[1:36:06]
>commissioner regalado:
[1:36:08]
anyone who wants to join as
[1:36:09]
cosponsor raise your hand there
[1:36:17]
are already 2 co-prime's so
[1:36:18]
cosponsor.
[1:36:23]
>>chair: if it can be cosponsor
[1:36:24]
I'm okay but I'm not sure if
[1:36:25]
you can have more than one
[1:36:30]
co-prime, so unanimously.
[1:36:31]
>>commissioner regalado: if we
[1:36:33]
are going to make one more
[1:36:35]
person co-prime that didn't
[1:36:40]
draft we should make everybody
[1:36:41]
co-prime.
[1:36:42]
He whole purpose of
[1:36:43]
co-prime is you are drafting
[1:36:45]
but it's fine if everyone wants
[1:36:52]
to be co-prime.
[1:36:53]
>>chair: I'm fine with it, this
[1:36:56]
is personal to the community so
[1:36:57]
everybody who wants to be a
[1:36:58]
cosponsor for sure.
[1:37:00]
If someone wants to be a
[1:37:07]
co-prime, I'm okay with it.
[1:37:08]
>>commissioner regalado:
[1:37:10]
everyone is co-prime, that's
[1:37:10]
fine.
[1:37:12]
We all agreed and we should
[1:37:14]
just vote.
[1:37:15]
>>commissioner gonzalez: if I
[1:37:17]
can have a point of personal
[1:37:17]
privilege.
[1:37:19]
Here's a lot I
[1:37:21]
want to say.
[1:37:22]
And I wish this would have came
[1:37:24]
up sooner.
[1:37:33]
I see a lot of deputies here
[1:37:35]
today.
[1:37:44]
And devon was a young man that
[1:37:45]
gave everything.
[1:37:48]
For this community.
[1:37:51]
Today, we honor his legacy by
[1:37:58]
naming a street after a hero.
[1:38:04]
But we are not just honoring a
[1:38:04]
street.
[1:38:06]
We are honoring a legacy that
[1:38:08]
he is instilling into this
[1:38:11]
community, into this county and
[1:38:12]
into every single deputy that
[1:38:13]
wears the badge.
[1:38:17]
Because bravery doesn't mean
[1:38:21]
that you're not afraid.
[1:38:27]
Bravery does not mean that you
[1:38:29]
don't recognize the risks that
[1:38:34]
you take every single day that
[1:38:39]
you wear the badge.
[1:38:43]
I think the best example of
[1:38:48]
that is in the bible.
[1:38:50]
Christ is praying in the garden
[1:38:50]
of gethsemane.
[1:38:53]
This is GOD.
[1:38:54]
He's praying.
[1:38:56]
Nd he's asking
[1:38:58]
that if this cup can be taken
[1:39:04]
from him, that it please be
[1:39:05]
taken.
[1:39:07]
But that GOD's will be done.
[1:39:12]
And then he goes on to do what
[1:39:13]
is necessary.
[1:39:15]
That's what it means to wear
[1:39:17]
the badge.
[1:39:29]
It doesn't mean you're not
[1:39:30]
afraid.
[1:39:32]
It means despite being afraid
[1:39:34]
you run towards danger because
[1:39:35]
it's the right thing to do.
[1:39:37]
Because it's what the job calls
[1:39:37]
for.
[1:39:39]
That is a legacy that will
[1:39:40]
forever carry on.
[1:39:42]
It's not just a street naming.
[1:39:48]
Devon will forever be
[1:39:49]
remembered because he lived
[1:39:50]
that legacy.
[1:39:52]
As every single officer that is
[1:39:54]
here is in miami-dade and
[1:39:56]
across the country and monies
[1:39:58]
that legacy and learns from
[1:39:59]
that legacy and lives that
[1:40:00]
legacy.
[1:40:08]
To the family, we mourn with
[1:40:08]
you.
[1:40:15]
We love you.
[1:40:16]
And we will forever be indebted
[1:40:17]
to devon sacrifice.
[1:40:20]
Od bless
[1:40:20]
you.
[1:40:28]
And thank you.
[1:40:30]
>> having a motion and the
[1:40:32]
second on the table, all in
[1:40:39]
favor of approving 5x and five
[1:40:41]
line which names the street and
[1:40:47]
part signify by saying aye.
[1:40:48]
Opposed, nay. Show the item
[1:40:50]
passed unanimously,
[1:40:51]
congratulations.
[1:40:53]
This is not something to
[1:40:56]
extremely be happy about find
[1:40:58]
happiness in the fact that this
[1:41:05]
community honors devon
[1:41:06]
jaramillo.
[1:41:08]
Don't leave because I'd like to
[1:41:10]
see you before you guys leave,
[1:41:11]
I will step aside, we love you
[1:41:12]
guys.
[1:41:13]
Next item that I want to call
[1:41:15]
met an attorney if you would
[1:41:27]
read it into the record, item
[1:41:27]
5c.
[1:41:29]
>> resolution code designating
[1:41:32]
that portion of southwest 84th
[1:41:33]
street between west 97th road
[1:41:35]
southwest 103rd avenue as
[1:41:43]
sergeant david caruso way.
[1:41:45]
>>chair: I need to go ahead and
[1:41:47]
open up public hearing at this
[1:41:47]
time.
[1:41:49]
Registered to speak on public
[1:41:56]
hearing but sergeant caruso's
[1:41:58]
wife eileen is present, did you
[1:41:59]
want to say anything.
[1:42:00]
You don't have to.
[1:42:02]
But I will take this
[1:42:07]
opportunity and I'll recognize
[1:42:08]
commissioner gonzalez who is
[1:42:10]
my: prime sponsor on this
[1:42:20]
side.
[1:42:21]
But I was proud to sponsor this
[1:42:23]
item as it's in my district.
[1:42:25]
Honoring the life and service
[1:42:26]
of sergeant caruso.
[1:42:28]
Who was tragically killed
[1:42:29]
OCTOBER 28, 2025 in a
[1:42:30]
motorcycle crash.
[1:42:30]
E was just
[1:42:34]
33 years old.
[1:42:36]
Still had his whole life ahead
[1:42:36]
of him.
[1:42:38]
He probably served the miami
[1:42:39]
beach police department 10
[1:42:41]
years and was known for his
[1:42:43]
professionalism compassion and
[1:42:52]
commitment to his community.
[1:42:54]
His fellow officers remember
[1:42:56]
him as someone who always
[1:42:58]
helped others, offered guidance
[1:42:59]
and went the extra mile.
[1:43:01]
He understood public safety is
[1:43:03]
about more than enforcement,
[1:43:05]
it's about trust dignity in
[1:43:06]
this very community.
[1:43:08]
And beyond the badge he was a
[1:43:10]
devoted husband father son
[1:43:12]
brother and a friend who left a
[1:43:13]
lasting impact.
[1:43:15]
This resolution code designates
[1:43:16]
southwest 84th street between
[1:43:18]
97th road southwest 103rd
[1:43:26]
avenue and commission district
[1:43:27]
10 and nine asked sergeant
[1:43:28]
david caruso way.
[1:43:30]
This is a lasting tribute to a
[1:43:32]
man who dedicated his life to
[1:43:34]
serving others and ensuring
[1:43:36]
service sacrifice and legacy
[1:43:37]
will never be forgotten.
[1:43:40]
And with that my team has every
[1:43:42]
opportunity to visit with the
[1:43:43]
family and the beautiful girls,
[1:43:44]
is it 2 girls?
[1:43:47]
One girl and a boy, I saw them
[1:43:54]
riding their bikes.
[1:43:56]
We keep track through social
[1:43:58]
media, that's a powerful tool
[1:43:59]
these days.
[1:44:03]
Beautiful children that I know
[1:44:04]
he was raising very well.
[1:44:06]
He will be missed.
[1:44:09]
Commissioner gonzalez.
[1:44:11]
>>commissioner gonzalez: thank
[1:44:14]
you MR. Chair.
[1:44:17]
Eileen, I didn't know david.
[1:44:24]
I didn't know him.
[1:44:26]
But he impacted my life and I'm
[1:44:28]
going to tell you why because I
[1:44:29]
think you need to know.
[1:44:32]
To me personally, the most
[1:44:34]
important thing is to try to be
[1:44:44]
a good man.
[1:44:45]
In the bible it says there is
[1:44:47]
no good men but GOD but to try
[1:44:49]
to be a person that tries, that
[1:44:52]
is a life worth living.
[1:44:54]
I'm not going to talk about
[1:44:55]
dave's career.
[1:44:57]
I'm going to talk about the
[1:44:58]
impact he made with many people
[1:45:04]
that called me and told me how
[1:45:06]
he led them to christ.
[1:45:13]
Not by forcing them, not by
[1:45:14]
citing bible verses like I do
[1:45:18]
but simply by being a good man.
[1:45:22]
That's a legacy for his kids.
[1:45:25]
That's legacy for this world.
[1:45:29]
And as a man, that's the type
[1:45:35]
of legacy I would love to leave
[1:45:40]
when I get a chance to go to
[1:45:40]
christ.
[1:45:45]
there's a story in the bible
[1:45:46]
about stephen.
[1:45:51]
He's very young.
[1:45:53]
He's only mentioned for like 2
[1:45:54]
chapters, act six and act
[1:45:56]
seven.
[1:45:57]
And he makes one of the
[1:46:01]
greatest speeches sharing the
[1:46:01]
gospel.
[1:46:04]
And in the crowd right before
[1:46:09]
he passes is a man named saul
[1:46:13]
who later becomes paul.
[1:46:17]
Writes about 60% of the new
[1:46:19]
testament and brings both jews
[1:46:21]
and gentiles and romans to
[1:46:21]
christ.
[1:46:29]
2 chapters.
[1:46:30]
That's impact.
[1:46:31]
Dave had impact.
[1:46:36]
We feel you, we love you.
[1:46:38]
And we will forever be grateful
[1:46:42]
for his sacrifice, thank you.
[1:46:47]
>>chair: thank you commissioner
[1:46:50]
and with that commissioner
[1:46:54]
gonzalez would you move the
[1:46:55]
item.
[1:46:56]
>>commissioner gonzalez: so
[1:46:56]
moved.
[1:46:59]
>>chair: second by commissioner
[1:47:00]
steinberg, you want to
[1:47:01]
cosponsor as well?
[1:47:04]
The entire dais are cosponsors.
[1:47:06]
You guys can prime this one
[1:47:06]
too.
[1:47:08]
With that all in favor signify
[1:47:12]
by saying aye.
[1:47:19]
Opposed, nay. Show the item
[1:47:20]
past and street naming approved
[1:47:22]
by unanimous vote.
[1:47:28]
With that, I'll have the
[1:47:30]
attorney move into the rest of
[1:47:32]
the five is but I want to thank
[1:47:33]
both for being present, I know
[1:47:35]
the drive is not easy to come
[1:47:36]
up town but it's very
[1:47:38]
meaningful that you all drove
[1:47:44]
down here so I appreciate it
[1:47:45]
and if I'm able to catch a
[1:47:51]
couple minutes if I could step
[1:47:53]
aside to say goodbye to you
[1:47:54]
before you leave.
[1:47:55]
Work your way towards the back
[1:47:59]
or start, you could stay
[1:48:01]
whatever you guys want we will
[1:48:04]
be moving on.
[1:48:07]
Thank you guys, GOD bless you
[1:48:14]
all and I'm glad you guys made
[1:48:14]
it.
[1:48:16]
MADAM Attorney, should I do
[1:48:17]
public hearing for the rest of
[1:48:19]
the fives at this time.
[1:48:20]
>> would you like me to read
[1:48:25]
all the titles?
[1:48:26]
MR. Chair, 5a substitute
[1:48:28]
relating to hospital mandatory
[1:48:30]
payments amending article 4 and
[1:48:33]
chapter 18 revising definitions
[1:48:44]
authorizing electronic delivery
[1:48:45]
of documents, recognizing
[1:48:47]
waivers granted by the center
[1:48:49]
for medicaid services expanding
[1:48:51]
scope of medicaid supplemental
[1:48:52]
payment programs revising
[1:48:54]
addition review authorizing
[1:48:56]
payment plans, authorizing
[1:48:58]
suspension or termination of
[1:49:00]
payments by resolution making
[1:49:01]
technical and conforming
[1:49:03]
changes and providing
[1:49:04]
severability and an effective
[1:49:06]
date and supplement, 5b bruce
[1:49:08]
issuance by capital trust
[1:49:09]
authority of its revenue bonds
[1:49:11]
in an amount not to exceed $155
[1:49:13]
million for the benefit of bh
[1:49:15]
wellness foundation southern
[1:49:17]
wins hospital, southern wins
[1:49:18]
hospital llc and 4225 llc to
[1:49:20]
fund a plan to finance which
[1:49:22]
includes acquisition of sinai
[1:49:24]
wins hospital, 5d declares
[1:49:26]
counties a surplus to include
[1:49:30]
such properties authorizing
[1:49:32]
conveyance to habitat for
[1:49:33]
humanity of greater miami and
[1:49:35]
lead equity development
[1:49:37]
incorporated for the purpose of
[1:49:39]
developing affordable housing
[1:49:40]
to be sold to low low or
[1:49:43]
moderate income households.
[1:49:45]
funny e substitute relates to
[1:49:48]
county procurement implementing
[1:49:50]
in whole or part multiple
[1:49:51]
recommendations for the final
[1:49:53]
report of the special task
[1:49:55]
force to reduce inefficiencies
[1:49:57]
in procurement relating to bid
[1:49:58]
protest amending section 2 b
[1:49:59]
84
[1:50:00]
of the code, directing the
[1:50:02]
mayor or designee to create or
[1:50:04]
maintain and update a
[1:50:05]
centralized portal for use in
[1:50:07]
the protest process, in
[1:50:09]
coordination with the clerk of
[1:50:10]
court, requiring a report
[1:50:12]
report providing severability,
[1:50:14]
inclusion in and exclusion from
[1:50:15]
the code, and an effective
[1:50:16]
date.
[1:50:18]
5f substitute relates to county
[1:50:20]
procurement implementing in
[1:50:25]
whole or part recommendations
[1:50:27]
from the final report of the
[1:50:29]
special task force to reduce
[1:50:31]
inefficiencies in procurement
[1:50:32]
relating to small business and
[1:50:35]
local preference requirements
[1:50:36]
amending sections to-8.1.1,
[1:50:52]
two-8.1.1.2 relating to small
[1:50:54]
business architecture and
[1:50:56]
engineering program
[1:50:56]
requirements, small business
[1:50:58]
enterprise service program
[1:50:59]
requirements, small business
[1:51:01]
enterprise goods program
[1:51:03]
requirements local business
[1:51:04]
preference, locally
[1:51:06]
headquartered business
[1:51:08]
preference, local preference
[1:51:09]
eligibility and verification,
[1:51:11]
small business remedies and
[1:51:13]
related procurement policies
[1:51:15]
erecting and authorizing the
[1:51:16]
mayor to make conforming
[1:51:19]
changes and providing providing
[1:51:21]
severability, inclusion in and
[1:51:23]
exclusion from the code, and an
[1:51:24]
effective date.
[1:51:26]
5g implements recommendations
[1:51:27]
from the final report of a
[1:51:30]
special task force to reduce
[1:51:32]
inefficiencies in procurement
[1:51:33]
amending 211 of the code
[1:51:35]
relating to the conflict of
[1:51:37]
interest and code of ethics
[1:51:38]
ordinance, to-eight relating
[1:51:40]
to fair subcontracting
[1:51:41]
processes, section 28.1.1 of
[1:51:43]
the code relating to the small
[1:51:45]
business enterprise services
[1:51:47]
program section 28.1.1.2 of the
[1:51:48]
code relating to the small
[1:51:50]
business enterprise goods
[1:51:51]
program, section 2-8.1 of the
[1:51:53]
code relating to bids from
[1:51:55]
related parties and section 10
[1:51:57]
-30.2 of the code relating to
[1:51:58]
bids precluded from related
[1:52:00]
parties repealing resolution
[1:52:02]
are 63-14 requiring certain
[1:52:05]
due diligence affidavits in
[1:52:07]
procurement, providing
[1:52:09]
severability, inclusion in and
[1:52:11]
exclusion from the code, and an
[1:52:12]
effective date and requiring a
[1:52:15]
report, 5h substitute relates
[1:52:17]
to multiple recommendations
[1:52:19]
from the final report of the
[1:52:21]
special task force to reduce
[1:52:23]
inefficiencies in procurement
[1:52:25]
amending section 2-11.1 of
[1:52:27]
the code of miami-dade county
[1:52:29]
relating to the cone of silence
[1:52:31]
to permit closed recorded oral
[1:52:33]
presentations in competitive
[1:52:35]
procurements consistent with
[1:52:37]
exemption in florida law
[1:52:42]
amending and plummeting orders
[1:52:44]
three-34 and three-39
[1:52:46]
establishing requirements for
[1:52:48]
competitive selection committee
[1:52:50]
appointments, composition
[1:52:52]
scoring training and conflict
[1:52:53]
checks creating large lawyer
[1:52:55]
employer category relating to
[1:52:57]
evaluation scoring and
[1:52:59]
acquisition and providing
[1:53:00]
providing severability,
[1:53:02]
inclusion in and exclusion from
[1:53:04]
the code, and an effective date
[1:53:06]
5I as a resolution amending
[1:53:07]
resolution are 795 tend to
[1:53:09]
revise the co-designation of
[1:53:11]
that portion of the nation away
[1:53:13]
from east san marino island and
[1:53:17]
west rivo alto island and
[1:53:19]
supplement, 5k establishes a
[1:53:21]
special taxing district in the
[1:53:23]
county bounded on the north by
[1:53:25]
theoretical southwest 325
[1:53:27]
street on the east by southwest
[1:53:32]
194 avenue and on the south by
[1:53:34]
southwest 328 street lucy
[1:53:35]
street and on the west by
[1:53:37]
southwest 197 avenue richard
[1:53:39]
road known and described as
[1:53:41]
harmony homes multipurpose
[1:53:43]
maintenance and street lighting
[1:53:46]
special tasking district and
[1:53:47]
affiant identifying services to
[1:53:50]
be provided and provide for the
[1:53:52]
installation of streetlights,
[1:53:53]
approving a street lighting
[1:53:55]
agreement with florida power
[1:53:57]
and light and authorizing mayor
[1:53:59]
or designee to execute the
[1:54:00]
agreement waiving revolutions
[1:54:02]
of our one 3006 and providing
[1:54:04]
exclusion from the code and an
[1:54:06]
effective date and 8k1 approves
[1:54:07]
a preliminary assessment role
[1:54:09]
for the district, 5l grants
[1:54:11]
sunset opportunities and sunset
[1:54:13]
c1 llc for establish on of a
[1:54:14]
community bounded district on
[1:54:16]
the north side harriet tubman
[1:54:18]
highway and on the south by
[1:54:20]
south 58th avenue sunset drive
[1:54:22]
creating and establishing
[1:54:24]
downtown so me community
[1:54:32]
development district inviting
[1:54:33]
name powers and duties
[1:54:35]
providing description of
[1:54:37]
boundaries, providing initial
[1:54:39]
members of the board of
[1:54:40]
supervisors, accepting
[1:54:42]
proffered declaration of
[1:54:44]
restrictive covenants,
[1:54:46]
providing severability,
[1:54:47]
inclusion in and exclusion from
[1:54:49]
the code, and an effective
[1:54:50]
date.
[1:54:51]
Five and approves 6301
[1:54:53]
southwest. 27th street, a
[1:54:55]
resolution approving the waiver
[1:54:57]
of plat of claudio ortiz garcia
[1:54:59]
and giselle betancourt, 5p is a
[1:55:01]
resolution approving the waiver
[1:55:03]
plat of mosaic andres gonzales,
[1:55:05]
5q approves the waiver of plat
[1:55:07]
of alliance northwest 60th
[1:55:08]
street llc.
[1:55:09]
Five are approves the plat of
[1:55:18]
lions trail subdivision, 5s
[1:55:20]
approves the plat of west palm
[1:55:21]
villas, five you is a
[1:55:23]
resolution approving the plat
[1:55:24]
of sunset oaks south, 5v
[1:55:46]
approves the plat rumasa
[1:55:48]
subdivision, 5x designates that
[1:55:50]
portion of southwest 132 second
[1:55:52]
avenue between 104th street and
[1:55:54]
south colusa club drive, I'm
[1:55:55]
sorry, we did that, 1483
[1:55:57]
approves as a governmental
[1:55:59]
facility development of certain
[1:56:01]
new facilities for an
[1:56:03]
integrated correctional campus
[1:56:04]
at 7000 northwest. 41st street
[1:56:06]
and in compliance with section
[1:56:08]
33-303 of the code subject to
[1:56:09]
certain conditions, those are
[1:56:11]
your public hearing items.
[1:56:13]
>> public hearing is open, we
[1:56:15]
have to that have signed up for
[1:56:16]
quasijudicial items 5m and 5s,
[1:56:17]
swear in josc
[1:56:18]
and sir j to the
[1:56:19]
clerk, swear in those
[1:56:20]
witnesses.
[1:56:22]
>>> do you solemnly swear or
[1:56:24]
affirm the testimony you are
[1:56:25]
about to give is the truth
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whole truth and nothing but the
[1:56:29]
truth so help you GOD, thank
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you you MAY be seated.
[1:56:35]
>> if I call your name please
[1:56:36]
approach the podium and line up
[1:56:38]
in the order your name is
[1:56:40]
called, give us your name and
[1:56:42]
address and you will have one
[1:56:44]
minute, MR. Jared simon,
[1:56:46]
jennifer harrison, tom carney,
[1:56:48]
eddie arroyo, michelle vargas,
[1:56:50]
nina trachtenberg.
[1:57:01]
[Reading names] Please state
[1:57:05]
your name, you will have one
[1:57:05]
minute.
[1:57:07]
>>public speaker: jared simon,
[1:57:50]
3900 crawford avenue in coconut
[1:57:52]
grove and I'm a jewish resident
[1:57:54]
of miami-dade born and raised.
[1:57:56]
I believe my tax dollars should
[1:57:58]
be kept safe and working to
[1:58:00]
benefit my community and I also
[1:58:01]
believe in democracy, I hoped
[1:58:03]
these were values we shared a
[1:58:05]
few minutes ago you voted
[1:58:06]
unanimously to allow the county
[1:58:08]
to invest 5% of its portfolio
[1:58:09]
of local tax dollars in the
[1:58:11]
underrated debt of the israeli
[1:58:12]
government.
[1:58:14]
An extremely controversial
[1:58:15]
choice.
[1:58:17]
Take a look at the 700 comments
[1:58:19]
on the miami herald article
[1:58:21]
that came out yesterday and you
[1:58:23]
didn't even allow public
[1:58:24]
comment before voting.
[1:58:26]
You didn't even discuss it,
[1:58:27]
many of you are not even
[1:58:28]
listening to me right now.
[1:58:30]
Your constituents do not want
[1:58:32]
their tax dollars on thing the
[1:58:33]
functions of the israeli
[1:58:35]
government, they want their
[1:58:37]
taxes working for them in this
[1:58:37]
county.
[1:58:39]
You are here to serve the
[1:58:40]
public, you seem to forget it.
[1:58:42]
>> next speaker please state
[1:58:43]
your name and address.
[1:58:44]
Chambers, chambers.
[1:58:45]
Hank you
[1:58:47]
for those of you joining us for
[1:58:49]
the first time, we don't
[1:58:51]
applaud, we raise our hands and
[1:58:52]
support, thumbs down if we
[1:58:54]
don't support but we don't
[1:58:55]
allow applause.
[1:58:57]
Your name address and the item
[1:58:59]
you are speaking on and I will
[1:59:00]
remind you we are here on
[1:59:02]
public hearing items, 4b is
[1:59:03]
listed for you a lot of you as
[1:59:05]
the item you are speaking on
[1:59:07]
but it is not and I repeat 4b
[1:59:08]
is not, the israeli bonds item.
[1:59:10]
F you start your commentary
[1:59:12]
regarding the israeli bonds
[1:59:14]
item that already passed, 11a
[1:59:16]
you will not be permitted to
[1:59:18]
speak, that item has already
[1:59:20]
passed, keep your commentary
[1:59:22]
limited to the item you are
[1:59:23]
honest to speak on which is
[1:59:23]
item 4b.
[1:59:25]
> 024 cortez street, 33134
[1:59:27]
here to address item 4b.
[1:59:27]
Hile
[1:59:29]
I would need information about
[1:59:30]
this item before I could give
[1:59:32]
my full support it appears to
[1:59:34]
be an excellent example of
[1:59:35]
miami-dade county investing its
[1:59:37]
money in the local bonds that
[1:59:38]
serve the community.
[1:59:39]
Rather than the risk risky
[1:59:41]
liquid bonds of a foreign
[1:59:43]
government in a volatile region
[1:59:44]
of the world.
[1:59:46]
Following hamas heinous attack
[1:59:48]
OCTOBER 7 mayor, increased the
[1:59:49]
counties investment to
[1:59:51]
demonstrate its support for the
[1:59:52]
people of israel.
[1:59:54]
I respectfully request this
[1:59:57]
commission to demonstrate their
[1:59:58]
support for the people of
[2:00:01]
palestine in future investments
[2:00:01]
decisions.
[2:00:03]
>> next speaker, name and
[2:00:05]
address and you will have one
[2:00:05]
minute.
[2:00:11]
>> eddie arroyo, 33127 and died
[2:00:13]
in district 5 here to speak on
[2:00:14]
senator garcias county
[2:00:15]
investment policy.
[2:00:17]
>> that item has already
[2:00:21]
passed, it's 11a2, you signed
[2:00:25]
up to speak on 5b, 11a2 has
[2:00:32]
already passed.
[2:00:34]
>>public speaker: I still want
[2:00:36]
to speak on the item that has
[2:00:44]
passed as well.
[2:00:45]
>> that's not how it works
[2:00:47]
here, the public hearing on the
[2:00:49]
item has been opened and closed
[2:00:51]
which that instruction was
[2:00:53]
given to you downstairs, you
[2:00:54]
need to the item you registered
[2:00:56]
for, we almost follow the same
[2:00:57]
rules, item 5b is what you
[2:00:59]
registered to speak on, please
[2:01:00]
proceed with 5b.
[2:01:02]
>>public speaker: I do not
[2:01:03]
approve of this policy and I
[2:01:07]
think it is reprehensible that
[2:01:09]
the public is forbidden from
[2:01:10]
speaking even though it's
[2:01:12]
passed, I want to put that on
[2:01:19]
the record and I find it
[2:01:20]
reprehensible.
[2:01:22]
>> to our sergeants, we will
[2:01:23]
have to order in the chambers.
[2:01:25]
If you are standing in the back
[2:01:27]
I need you to find a seat.
[2:01:29]
I need you to find a seat now.
[2:01:30]
Lease find a seat within the
[2:01:30]
chamber.
[2:01:32]
Hese keep order in
[2:01:35]
our chambers and please be
[2:01:38]
respectful of everyone.
[2:01:43]
Are you wrapping up, are you
[2:01:43]
finished?
[2:01:49]
>> before we move forward.
[2:01:51]
>> commissioner, can you please
[2:01:59]
ask to be recognized.
[2:02:01]
>>commissioner hardemon: we can
[2:02:03]
be asked to follow procedures
[2:02:05]
of this board but we are not
[2:02:06]
doing that, we're not going to
[2:02:08]
stand here and allow anyone to
[2:02:10]
be intimidated on this day us
[2:02:11]
and I don't care what you're
[2:02:13]
talking about, what subject it
[2:02:15]
is you don't like, what you
[2:02:16]
care for or don't care for.
[2:02:18]
what we are not going to stand
[2:02:20]
for or people who want to make
[2:02:21]
anyone in this room feel
[2:02:23]
uncomfortable about where they
[2:02:25]
are which they are in this
[2:02:26]
place, if you make people
[2:02:32]
unsafe you will be removed
[2:02:33]
immediately.
[2:02:35]
Immediately, we don't care what
[2:02:36]
GOD you serve, who your child
[2:02:38]
is or not, we don't care if
[2:02:39]
you're the mayor or
[2:02:41]
commissioner, whoever you are,
[2:02:43]
if you try to intimidate
[2:02:44]
someone on this day us, in this
[2:02:46]
crowd, in this place you will
[2:02:48]
be removed from this space and
[2:02:49]
if you don't understand that,
[2:02:57]
please try us.
[2:02:59]
>> thank you commissioner
[2:03:00]
hardemon, I don't think it was
[2:03:02]
caught on the microphones but
[2:03:03]
someone spoke out of turn
[2:03:05]
without registering and I
[2:03:06]
couldn't agree more.
[2:03:08]
We will have to order in our
[2:03:09]
chambers, welcome back MR.
[2:03:10]
CHAIRMAN.
[2:03:11]
>>chair: go ahead.
[2:03:13]
>>public speaker: I wanted have
[2:03:15]
time to speak about that
[2:03:16]
particular israeli bond that
[2:03:17]
has been passed.
[2:03:18]
>>chair: you already spoke,
[2:03:20]
thank you.
[2:03:32]
>> I want to speak also to the
[2:03:34]
egregious nature and fiscal
[2:03:36]
misappropriation of agenda item
[2:03:38]
11a2 that you unanimously
[2:03:38]
passed.
[2:03:39]
Ou clearly don't have
[2:03:41]
the fiscal responsibility to
[2:03:43]
pass item 5b, they should be
[2:03:47]
used for miami-dade county.
[2:03:49]
>>chair: we need to speak on
[2:03:51]
items on public hearing right
[2:03:52]
now.
[2:04:00]
So thank you so much.
[2:04:02]
I stepped out for 2 seconds and
[2:04:04]
I caught the tail end of
[2:04:06]
commissioner hardemon's
[2:04:08]
comments and commissioner cohen
[2:04:09]
higgins and they are right,
[2:04:24]
we've got to stay on subject.
[2:04:26]
Let's stay on the agenda, guys.
[2:04:27]
Let's be courteous and
[2:04:29]
respectful of the people that
[2:04:30]
drove all the way down here to
[2:04:32]
speak on the items on the
[2:04:34]
agenda following the rules and
[2:04:35]
following what they are
[2:04:36]
supposed to do.
[2:04:38]
>>public speaker: rochelle
[2:04:39]
vargas, 21st street district 5,
[2:04:41]
item 4b on bonds and
[2:04:41]
investment.
[2:04:43]
I'm here to speak about just
[2:04:45]
asking the board to consider
[2:04:53]
how policies are amended and
[2:04:54]
written for bonds and
[2:04:55]
investments.
[2:04:56]
Especially as your duty is to
[2:04:58]
protect taxpayer funds.
[2:05:05]
Keep them liquid and to protect
[2:05:07]
our taxpayer money and
[2:05:08]
prioritize this taxpayer money
[2:05:10]
and its liquidity over the rate
[2:05:11]
of return.
[2:05:23]
Ith bonds, always
[2:05:25]
want to remind you all we work
[2:05:27]
in miami dade county, we work
[2:05:28]
with and enjoy miami-dade
[2:05:30]
county and we should keep bonds
[2:05:32]
local, keep our investments
[2:05:32]
local.
[2:05:34]
There are many things right now
[2:05:36]
being cut in the county budget
[2:05:37]
that will benefit the local
[2:05:39]
community instead of investing
[2:05:46]
in foreign governments, thank
[2:05:46]
you.
[2:05:48]
>>public speaker: my name is
[2:05:49]
mina trachtenberg, northwest
[2:05:58]
15th street, florida statutes
[2:05:59]
and the investment policy
[2:06:01]
itself specifically state their
[2:06:03]
top priority is the safety of
[2:06:04]
public funds and liquidity of
[2:06:06]
public funds above all else yet
[2:06:08]
the resolution achieves the
[2:06:10]
opposite of that opening the
[2:06:12]
door to the purchase of high
[2:06:13]
risk even jump quality bonds of
[2:06:15]
a foreign entity which is the
[2:06:17]
only foreign government miami
[2:06:19]
is invested in, items like
[2:06:20]
resolution 5b or a resolution
[2:06:22]
of how we can handle public
[2:06:30]
funds, please divest from
[2:06:31]
apartheid.
[2:06:32]
>>public speaker: 1617
[2:06:34]
southwest. 1/33 street here to
[2:06:35]
speak on item 5b, miami's
[2:06:37]
investment portfolio, the
[2:06:38]
county finds itself in a budget
[2:06:40]
crisis and instead of figuring
[2:06:43]
out how we can best afford the
[2:06:44]
services essential for the
[2:06:46]
residence of miami-dade county
[2:06:48]
the commission has passed an
[2:06:50]
item that would allow for
[2:06:52]
further investment in a foreign
[2:06:54]
country, investments that
[2:06:55]
should have ended long ago.
[2:06:57]
This decision puts another
[2:06:57]
county-
[2:06:59]
>chair: that's not what this
[2:07:00]
item is.
[2:07:01]
Ma'am,
[2:07:02]
>>public speaker: 2141 south
[2:07:16]
terrace on item 5b, I'll speak
[2:07:17]
be speaking to the investments,
[2:07:19]
item 5b exists within the
[2:07:21]
confines of a budget crisis as
[2:07:23]
well as a genocide against
[2:07:24]
palestinians in gaza backed by
[2:07:26]
the united states.
[2:07:28]
>>chair: we are going to do
[2:07:29]
something.
[2:07:30]
They are not listening so
[2:07:31]
sergeants, if they continue
[2:07:32]
just escort them.
[2:07:35]
Ask them to kindly exit the
[2:07:36]
chamber.
[2:07:38]
>>public speaker: esteemed
[2:07:39]
commissioners and mayor, I'm
[2:07:43]
now concerned because I'm a
[2:07:49]
palestinian resident here and
[2:07:51]
I'm already worried I'm going
[2:07:53]
to be escorted out just for
[2:07:54]
being palestinian.
[2:07:56]
I came here to get information
[2:07:59]
on 5b.
[2:08:01]
>>chair: you have to follow the
[2:08:02]
order and speak on the item, if
[2:08:05]
you speak on 5b, if you're
[2:08:07]
going to speak on 5b, you can
[2:08:10]
speak for your entire minute.
[2:08:12]
>>public speaker: I wanted to
[2:08:16]
thank the pastor gave this
[2:08:17]
lovely christian right at the
[2:08:19]
beginning of the commission
[2:08:20]
hearing when he said I think
[2:08:22]
it's about the humility of
[2:08:22]
listening.
[2:08:27]
Our tax dollars pay for this
[2:08:30]
building, it pays for all your
[2:08:30]
salaries.
[2:08:34]
And in that case I will say
[2:08:41]
that 11a2 is an absolute
[2:08:42]
disgrace.
[2:08:48]
>>chair: sergeants.
[2:09:04]
They want their minutes of
[2:09:04]
fame.
[2:09:06]
>>public speaker: james
[2:09:08]
fishback, 177 southwest. Orange
[2:09:08]
avenue.
[2:09:10]
I assure you I am not here to
[2:09:12]
talk about israel, I'm not here
[2:09:14]
to talk about the fact this
[2:09:16]
commission this morning voted
[2:09:31]
unanimously to give $450
[2:09:32]
million to the israeli
[2:09:33]
government.
[2:09:34]
Am not here to
[2:09:35]
talk about the fact this
[2:09:37]
commission has struggled to pay
[2:09:38]
the deputies in this county,
[2:09:40]
the teachers in this county
[2:09:42]
while the fact the commission
[2:09:44]
unanimously voted to give $450
[2:09:45]
million of money to israel, I
[2:09:47]
assure you I am not talking
[2:09:49]
about that today because I
[2:09:50]
don't want to be escorted out
[2:09:52]
by these great men in uniform.
[2:09:54]
What this is about simply is
[2:09:55]
who do you serve?
[2:09:56]
Do you serve the people of
[2:09:57]
hialeah?
[2:09:58]
do you serve the people of
[2:09:59]
aventura or tel aviv?
[2:10:01]
Do you serve the people of the
[2:10:02]
city or jerusalem?
[2:10:04]
This money should be invested
[2:10:06]
in this community, it should be
[2:10:11]
invested in miami-dade county.
[2:10:12]
>>public speaker: the people
[2:10:24]
here deserve better.
[2:10:26]
>>public speaker: america
[2:10:27]
first!
[2:10:37]
America first!
[2:10:39]
>>commissioner gilbert: MR.
[2:10:40]
CHAIRMAN.
[2:10:42]
>>chair: you are recognized
[2:10:45]
commissioner gilbert.
[2:10:52]
>>commissioner gilbert: senator
[2:10:54]
garcia, we should probably take
[2:11:02]
a moment to address a couple of
[2:11:03]
things.
[2:11:04]
First of all when people say
[2:11:06]
things like america first, the
[2:11:10]
very first amendment in the
[2:11:11]
constitution allowed us to
[2:11:13]
speak so that's what we allow
[2:11:15]
and it allows you to petition
[2:11:17]
your government, that's why we
[2:11:18]
have procedures but when
[2:11:20]
commissioner hardemon spoke he
[2:11:22]
spoke the way he did because at
[2:11:23]
times we are so involved with
[2:11:27]
what we believe, we don't
[2:11:28]
understand there are folks on
[2:11:30]
the other side who believe
[2:11:31]
something different.
[2:11:37]
We can disagree.
[2:11:37]
Civilly.
[2:11:39]
E need to disagree
[2:11:40]
civilly.
[2:11:41]
That conversation can be had,
[2:11:43]
the discussion can be had but
[2:11:46]
it has to be had in a civil
[2:11:46]
manner.
[2:11:48]
Because when civil discourse
[2:11:53]
breaks down we are no longer
[2:11:53]
america.
[2:11:54]
We can't be all america first
[2:12:00]
at the same time when it is to
[2:12:01]
shout everybody else down.
[2:12:05]
This meeting has to operate in
[2:12:06]
a way that allows all of us to
[2:12:13]
discuss items, hear
[2:12:14]
information, make decisions and
[2:12:15]
exist afterwards as a
[2:12:16]
community.
[2:12:17]
That includes information
[2:12:18]
that's correct.
[2:12:23]
Our board today didn't vote to
[2:12:26]
give any money to anyone?
[2:12:29]
We said investment criteria.
[2:12:34]
So without regard to the
[2:12:35]
soundbite you might want to
[2:12:44]
generate with your social media
[2:12:45]
latform, that's not what
[2:12:45]
happened.
[2:12:47]
We need to be clear about those
[2:12:49]
things because we can have
[2:12:50]
different opinions but facts
[2:12:56]
are facts.
[2:12:58]
The vote didn't give money to
[2:13:00]
anyone, it didn't buy anything,
[2:13:02]
we established criteria and
[2:13:04]
changed percentage and while I
[2:13:06]
appreciate everyone's opinion,
[2:13:08]
it is important you disagree
[2:13:09]
civilly.
[2:13:14]
Because I know I speak for my
[2:13:15]
colleagues when I say no one on
[2:13:17]
this board intends to let this
[2:13:19]
meeting evolve into anything
[2:13:21]
remotely similar to some of the
[2:13:22]
stuff we see online.
[2:13:24]
That won't be here in
[2:13:25]
miami-dade county so we should
[2:13:27]
all just probably called down.
[2:13:30]
Thank you MR. CHAIRMAN.
[2:13:32]
>>chair: senator garcia.
[2:13:37]
>>senator garcia: we don't want
[2:13:39]
to belabor it and the item
[2:13:40]
already past and there was
[2:13:45]
opportunity to testify on this
[2:13:47]
item given to the public and I
[2:13:49]
understand we are using another
[2:13:51]
item to testify but I want to
[2:13:53]
be clear what this is, the
[2:13:56]
reality is they passed a new
[2:13:58]
regulatory scheme for
[2:13:59]
investments, we are following
[2:14:01]
state law based on what was
[2:14:01]
passed.
[2:14:02]
i have a hold on a lot of these
[2:14:08]
state requirements
[2:14:10]
implementations which therefore
[2:14:12]
that's why we're sponsoring
[2:14:12]
this.
[2:14:21]
When we look at investments we
[2:14:22]
tried to tell the public we
[2:14:24]
should not be investing in one
[2:14:25]
fund or another fund, the
[2:14:27]
county has $9 billion.
[2:14:29]
Our pension is invested in the
[2:14:29]
frs.
[2:14:30]
We use these investments to
[2:14:32]
make sure we have a greater set
[2:14:34]
of money in the bank account so
[2:14:37]
we can fund our police and
[2:14:38]
firefighters and fund the
[2:14:40]
operation of governments as
[2:14:40]
well.
[2:14:42]
So to call out and say just for
[2:15:01]
soundbites I agree with you
[2:15:03]
commissioner oliver gilbert.
[2:15:04]
Let's get stick to the facts
[2:15:06]
and say what this is and what
[2:15:07]
this isn't.
[2:15:08]
The reality is we are running
[2:15:10]
these investments and I want to
[2:15:12]
make sure what we have here
[2:15:13]
working with the clerk gives
[2:15:15]
more flexibility and more
[2:15:17]
liquidity to some of our
[2:15:17]
investments.
[2:15:19]
It doesn't mandate us doing one
[2:15:20]
thing.
[2:15:21]
It gives a clerk and our
[2:15:23]
investment personnel of
[2:15:24]
flexibility to pick the best
[2:15:26]
return on heels for this
[2:15:28]
community and that's all this
[2:15:29]
does, thank you MR. Chair.
[2:15:31]
>>vice chair mcghee: senator
[2:15:33]
let me take my hat off because
[2:15:34]
everyone knows this was already
[2:15:36]
made public knowledge and
[2:15:41]
individuals had the knowledge
[2:15:42]
that we discussed today at this
[2:15:44]
particular meeting and I agree
[2:15:45]
with my colleagues, to take
[2:16:06]
this particular item to make a
[2:16:08]
political position to do what i
[2:16:10]
believe is an active engagement
[2:16:11]
to click is in my humble
[2:16:13]
opinion one of the most
[2:16:14]
disgraceful things we can do so
[2:16:16]
you continuously stand by what
[2:16:18]
you believe and this board is
[2:16:19]
standing with you and the
[2:16:21]
reality is they had issues with
[2:16:23]
this before they would have
[2:16:24]
made their position known early
[2:16:26]
on so thank you so much.
[2:16:27]
>>commissioner bermudez: ditto
[2:16:29]
to all the comments of my
[2:16:31]
colleagues to make sure these
[2:16:32]
meetings are run efficiently
[2:16:34]
the right way and obviously
[2:16:36]
america was based on respecting
[2:16:38]
other people's opinions even
[2:16:40]
when we disagree with you but
[2:16:42]
for thursday night because
[2:16:44]
everybody's going to be back
[2:16:45]
that we are all taxpayers, all
[2:16:47]
of us are taxpayers of miami
[2:16:49]
dade county sometimes I think
[2:16:51]
individuals that come to see us
[2:16:52]
forget we pay taxes.
[2:16:54]
Unless one of you served in the
[2:16:56]
military and had an exemption
[2:16:57]
you pay property taxes to so if
[2:16:59]
you don't let me know because
[2:17:01]
that's incredible but the
[2:17:02]
suffering that everybody feels
[2:17:04]
in this community we feel and
[2:17:06]
I'm saying this because
[2:17:07]
thursday night while
[2:17:09]
everybody's home watching T.V.
[2:17:11]
Or we are getting into college
[2:17:12]
football season we will be on a
[2:17:14]
from 6:00 P.M. Until one in the
[2:17:16]
morning and we had a number of
[2:17:17]
people say I'm a taxpayer and I
[2:17:19]
hope we remind them we are
[2:17:24]
taxpayers two.
[2:17:26]
>>chair: the first 10 were
[2:17:26]
called.
[2:17:55]
I've got geneva class, [Reading
[2:18:03]
names] You MAY approach the
[2:18:04]
well, say your name and address
[2:18:06]
and you have a minute to speak
[2:18:08]
and as you wait list, please
[2:18:09]
stay on topic.
[2:18:11]
>>public speaker: my name is
[2:18:12]
rachel, 1865 79th street
[2:18:13]
causeway.
[2:18:18]
I want to point out that the
[2:18:19]
display was from someone not
[2:18:21]
called and was not registered
[2:18:26]
to speak.
[2:18:28]
His name was not called by the
[2:18:30]
chair, I believe he's also
[2:18:31]
running for public office and I
[2:18:41]
don't think anyone wants to be
[2:18:43]
associated with that kind of
[2:18:44]
heinous display.
[2:18:46]
I want to comment on hospitals.
[2:18:48]
I think they are a great thing
[2:18:49]
for public investment of our
[2:18:51]
taxpayer dollars and as the
[2:18:53]
commissioners said you all are
[2:18:55]
taxpayers, we are taxpayers
[2:18:57]
investing in hospitals, that's
[2:19:04]
the kind of things bonds can
[2:19:06]
fund, municipal bonds can fund
[2:19:07]
roads, these are the things we
[2:19:09]
want to be investing in common
[2:19:10]
you further things.
[2:19:12]
Want to be investing in so I
[2:19:14]
want to ask the question who is
[2:19:16]
calling your offices, what are
[2:19:17]
they asking for and if you
[2:19:19]
think when people are asking
[2:19:20]
you and this time when people
[2:19:22]
are struggling and can't afford
[2:19:24]
to live hear what are the kinds
[2:19:26]
of things positively and want
[2:19:28]
you to invest in both with the
[2:19:29]
pensions that we want the money
[2:19:31]
we invest to make money, of
[2:19:32]
course we want that.
[2:19:34]
We can do that ethically,
[2:19:35]
financially responsibly.
[2:19:37]
We can do that so I want
[2:19:39]
everyone to reflect on what
[2:19:40]
your constituents want you to
[2:19:42]
invest in and I know it's not
[2:19:46]
foreign governments.
[2:19:47]
>>public speaker: peace be with
[2:19:49]
you all, my address is 18810
[2:19:50]
northwest 78 way.
[2:20:05]
My family has lived and paid
[2:20:07]
taxes in miami-dade county the
[2:20:08]
last 50 years.
[2:20:09]
I'm also an alumni of fiu and
[2:20:11]
an active member at the islamic
[2:20:13]
center of greater miami glad to
[2:20:15]
be back here at the annual
[2:20:16]
budget meeting and we have
[2:20:18]
always made our positions
[2:20:18]
clear.
[2:20:20]
We have shown up, this isn't
[2:20:22]
the first time we've spoke on
[2:20:23]
5b, bonds and investments.
[2:20:25]
And I agree with the beautiful
[2:20:27]
prayer made earlier today that
[2:20:29]
the decisions you make today
[2:20:34]
should bring peace to all the
[2:20:37]
miami-dade residents here today
[2:20:38]
and our neighbors.
[2:20:41]
We are not sleepless to know
[2:20:43]
the investments being made by
[2:20:57]
this commission are $151
[2:20:59]
million of our taxpayers are
[2:21:01]
going to israeli bonds which
[2:21:02]
are funding a genocide in gaza
[2:21:04]
and you want to talk facts on
[2:21:06]
the investment end of it, this
[2:21:07]
is not a sound bite, it's a bad
[2:21:08]
investment.
[2:21:09]
>>chair: appreciate it.
[2:21:18]
Go ahead.
[2:21:20]
>>public speaker: good morning,
[2:21:22]
my name is sebastian gill, a
[2:21:23]
high school junior and my
[2:21:25]
address is protected from
[2:21:35]
disclosure.
[2:21:37]
I'm here in support of item 5d
[2:21:38]
which can transfer certain
[2:21:40]
county owned properties for $10
[2:21:42]
to habitat for humanity greater
[2:21:44]
miami and delete equity
[2:21:46]
development to build affordable
[2:21:47]
homes for lower income and
[2:21:49]
moderate income families.
[2:21:50]
As a high school student I'm
[2:21:53]
not buying a house today but my
[2:21:55]
generation will live with the
[2:21:56]
housing decisions you make
[2:21:56]
today.
[2:21:58]
I support using public lands
[2:22:11]
for affordable homeownership a
[2:22:13]
$10 transfer should come with a
[2:22:15]
clear public return.
[2:22:16]
Homes built on a clear timeline
[2:22:18]
and kept affordable for the
[2:22:20]
people this program is meant to
[2:22:20]
serve.
[2:22:22]
Because the resolution also
[2:22:24]
waives normal property transfer
[2:22:25]
procedures I asked the board to
[2:22:27]
ensure strong deadlines, clear
[2:22:29]
affordability requirements and
[2:22:30]
real accountability.
[2:22:32]
I don't want to live with my
[2:22:34]
parents until I'm 30 years old
[2:22:36]
so please support item 5d so
[2:22:37]
for years from now we can see
[2:22:39]
real homes built for real
[2:22:41]
people, thank you.
[2:22:42]
>>commissioner gilbert: thank
[2:22:44]
you MR. Gill.
[2:22:45]
>>chair: sebastian gill.
[2:22:47]
I have dorothy brown.
[2:23:21]
[Reading names] You are
[2:23:22]
recognized.
[2:23:23]
>>public speaker: thank you
[2:23:25]
chair and mayor, I'm here on
[2:23:28]
items 5b, 5x, 5g and 5h, I'm
[2:23:35]
against all of those yet I know
[2:23:37]
you stripped the task force but
[2:23:39]
I wish you appointed small
[2:23:52]
business advocates such as
[2:23:54]
myself, 4649 northwest. Second
[2:23:55]
avenue miami florida.
[2:23:57]
I believe as a small business
[2:23:58]
advocate we've been advocating
[2:24:00]
for decades for positive change
[2:24:02]
for small businesses which
[2:24:04]
included increasing the limited
[2:24:06]
revenues for trade contractors
[2:24:08]
from 5 million to 10 million,
[2:24:10]
same thing for general
[2:24:11]
contractors from 10 million to
[2:24:13]
50 million but now with the
[2:24:15]
strict recommendation is
[2:24:17]
increasing it from 250 up to 8
[2:24:17]
million.
[2:24:19]
The other thing we have been
[2:24:20]
advocating for is positive
[2:24:22]
changes in the construction
[2:24:23]
industry for small businesses
[2:24:31]
where we don't have any rights
[2:24:31]
anymore.
[2:24:33]
We can have contracts taken
[2:24:35]
from us by general contractors,
[2:24:37]
we also have been advocating
[2:24:39]
for payment for decades through
[2:24:41]
various administration
[2:24:42]
including software, that has
[2:24:44]
not happened and in the local
[2:24:46]
preferences where you have
[2:24:48]
small businesses that are micro
[2:24:49]
small businesses where they MAY
[2:24:51]
only have the owner and one
[2:24:52]
employee now that
[2:24:53]
recommendation is saying they
[2:24:55]
have to have a minimum of three
[2:24:55]
employees.
[2:24:57]
Ask you to not
[2:24:58]
move forward with this, we
[2:25:00]
should have had input with
[2:25:02]
small businesses in thank you.
[2:25:04]
>>public speaker: brenda
[2:25:10]
bettencourt, I am referencing 5
[2:25:12]
eat to reduce inefficiencies in
[2:25:13]
procurement.
[2:25:15]
Something we need to make sure
[2:25:16]
is when we apply to be a
[2:25:18]
provider or to ask for an sb
[2:25:22]
for the county, sometimes it's
[2:25:24]
too many steps to follow.
[2:25:26]
I have applied from the
[2:25:28]
provider as a primary care and
[2:25:29]
we've been trying, the system
[2:25:30]
doesn't work.
[2:25:34]
You go to check what is what
[2:25:36]
you need and the system doesn't
[2:25:36]
work.
[2:25:43]
You call and sometimes you get
[2:25:45]
somebody who answers the phone
[2:25:47]
but most of the time you don't
[2:25:48]
get an answer.
[2:25:50]
You do events of procurement
[2:25:52]
.You bring other cities or
[2:25:54]
other departments it's not
[2:25:56]
actually a procurement when you
[2:25:58]
need as a small business as an
[2:25:58]
organization.
[2:26:01]
So is this new legislature
[2:26:09]
actually going to work?
[2:26:11]
100% I am for the person before
[2:26:12]
me, you need small businesses
[2:26:15]
to be part of that committee to
[2:26:16]
understand what we have to go
[2:26:21]
through for us to apply, thank
[2:26:21]
you.
[2:26:26]
>> ralph ferrera, 7520 south
[2:26:28]
railroad miami and we are also
[2:26:33]
certified small business
[2:26:34]
enterprise having been quoted
[2:26:36]
in miami-dade county and I
[2:26:38]
respectfully express our strong
[2:26:43]
opposition to items 5f, g and h
[2:26:45]
which is scheduled for second
[2:26:45]
reading today.
[2:27:08]
The proposed elimination of the
[2:27:10]
firm level commitments and
[2:27:12]
small business advisory boards
[2:27:14]
would significantly reduce
[2:27:16]
opportunities and protections
[2:27:17]
for small businesses.
[2:27:19]
These measures have long
[2:27:20]
insured accountability,
[2:27:22]
meaningful participation and a
[2:27:24]
voice for the small business
[2:27:25]
community and counties
[2:27:27]
procurement process, finally we
[2:27:29]
know no certified small
[2:27:31]
business representative served
[2:27:32]
on the task force that
[2:27:33]
developed these
[2:27:34]
recommendations.
[2:27:36]
Changes of this magnitude would
[2:27:38]
include input from the
[2:27:39]
businesses most directly
[2:27:40]
affected by it.
[2:27:42]
We respectfully urge the board
[2:27:43]
of county commissioners, the
[2:27:45]
mayor to reject this ordinance
[2:27:47]
on second reading and engage
[2:27:49]
the small business community in
[2:27:50]
any future reform efforts.
[2:27:52]
>>chair: anyone speaking in the
[2:27:54]
same line, anyone speaking in
[2:27:56]
the same line make sure you all
[2:27:57]
read the substitute item
[2:27:59]
because I've removed everything
[2:28:01]
referencing, anything that is
[2:28:03]
against or not in favor of
[2:28:05]
small businesses, that's been
[2:28:06]
removed from the item so make
[2:28:08]
sure you read the latest
[2:28:09]
version of the item.
[2:28:11]
Because I don't think you would
[2:28:12]
be up here asking for us to
[2:28:14]
oppose it if you saw this item
[2:28:16]
and it makes no reference to
[2:28:18]
the a lot of the things you
[2:28:19]
guys have mentioned.
[2:28:21]
But ma'am.
[2:28:23]
>>public speaker: I am with js
[2:28:25]
door installations, a certified
[2:28:28]
small business specialty
[2:28:28]
contractor.
[2:28:30]
And I support making the county
[2:28:32]
procurement faster and more
[2:28:41]
efficient but I am concerned
[2:28:43]
the file 26 1351 eliminates the
[2:28:44]
small business advisory board.
[2:28:46]
And the small business project
[2:28:59]
review functions.
[2:29:02]
For a large county construction
[2:29:04]
project our specialty trade
[2:29:05]
might be a small percentage of
[2:29:07]
the total contract but that
[2:29:09]
percentage can represent a
[2:29:11]
significant opportunity for a
[2:29:13]
local small business, an
[2:29:14]
opportunity that creates local
[2:29:16]
jobs and keeps dollars in our
[2:29:17]
community.
[2:29:18]
For these projects go to the
[2:29:20]
market someone needs to ask are
[2:29:23]
there qualified miami-dade
[2:29:24]
certified small businesses
[2:29:26]
capable of doing this work?
[2:29:27]
An we create a fair
[2:29:29]
opportunity for them to
[2:29:29]
compete?
[2:29:31]
If the current process is
[2:29:33]
inefficient please improve it,
[2:29:35]
consolidated it, established
[2:29:36]
deadlines we had used
[2:29:38]
technology and hold the process
[2:29:38]
accountable.
[2:29:40]
>> rick brooks, waterford
[2:29:42]
district drive miami florida.
[2:29:44]
I am a proud graduate of
[2:29:45]
miami-dade county small
[2:29:47]
business program so I'm here to
[2:29:54]
speak in favor of maintaining
[2:29:56]
the small business advisory
[2:29:58]
board as well as hearing some
[2:30:00]
of their other concerns, these
[2:30:02]
substitutes did address some of
[2:30:03]
the issues but there are still
[2:30:04]
issues pending.
[2:30:06]
I want to applaud you all for
[2:30:07]
the substitute that removed
[2:30:09]
strict recommendation 33 and
[2:30:09]
35.
[2:30:11]
Those affect locally
[2:30:13]
headquartered businesses like
[2:30:14]
myself and that's it, thank you
[2:30:18]
very much.
[2:30:22]
>>public speaker: good morning,
[2:30:24]
armando rodriguez and I support
[2:30:32]
your principal to incentivized
[2:30:34]
headquarters in district 7 in
[2:30:35]
miami-dade county.
[2:30:40]
I have not created any changes
[2:30:42]
but I want to make sure you
[2:30:43]
understand what is happening.
[2:30:45]
I'm here to oppose f, g and h,
[2:30:47]
these organizations have a
[2:30:52]
negative impact on our goals,
[2:30:54]
eliminating their commitment in
[2:30:56]
dissolving a small business
[2:30:57]
advisory board and opening
[2:30:59]
locally business benefits to
[2:31:03]
nonlocal firms.
[2:31:10]
That will overpower our local
[2:31:10]
businesses.
[2:31:13]
This was composed entirely for
[2:31:15]
non-fee representatives I have
[2:31:18]
strict protections from local
[2:31:19]
maintenance.
[2:31:23]
Not a single local business
[2:31:25]
representative was invited to
[2:31:28]
participate despite the county
[2:31:29]
being a local business.
[2:31:37]
That is placing a conflict of
[2:31:38]
interest where recommendations
[2:31:39]
can-
[2:31:45]
>>chair: thank you sir, ma'am.
[2:31:46]
>>public speaker: my name is
[2:31:48]
maria and I live at 2271
[2:31:49]
southwest. 122nd court and I'm
[2:31:55]
here to speak on behalf of of
[2:31:56]
that small business community
[2:31:58]
because this particular
[2:31:59]
ordinance is very detrimental
[2:32:03]
to us, particularly the part
[2:32:05]
where it eliminates basically
[2:32:07]
the locally headquartered part
[2:32:11]
of the ordinance and also it
[2:32:13]
reduces the participation of
[2:32:14]
small business to a specified
[2:32:16]
number but it doesn't give any
[2:32:23]
leeway and lastly I want to
[2:32:25]
talk about the issue where if
[2:32:27]
you have less than three
[2:32:30]
employees you don't count it as
[2:32:32]
being at all which is
[2:32:33]
detrimental to me because I
[2:32:35]
have less then three employees
[2:32:37]
and that's just an operation.
[2:32:39]
You need to think about whether
[2:32:40]
you're trying to help the
[2:32:42]
community or help large
[2:32:43]
businesses from some other area
[2:32:45]
of the country, thank you.
[2:32:49]
>>chair: thank you, sir.
[2:32:51]
>>public speaker: I'm a
[2:32:52]
principal with maduro group.
[2:32:57]
A PRESIDENT Of miami county
[2:32:59]
9935 northwest. 28th terrace.
[2:33:04]
I'm here to speak in support of
[2:33:05]
the sbe and locally
[2:33:07]
headquartered business
[2:33:07]
community.
[2:33:09]
I don't know if you know about
[2:33:11]
the majority of the employment
[2:33:14]
in miami-dade county is medium
[2:33:29]
to small sized firms.
[2:33:31]
So that strict committee
[2:33:32]
recommendations that impact
[2:33:35]
sbe's as well as the locally
[2:33:37]
headquartered business are
[2:33:39]
effective in destroying your
[2:33:41]
locally headquartered
[2:33:41]
businesses.
[2:33:43]
Why would you do that?
[2:33:45]
It's a question I asked you
[2:33:46]
please consider.
[2:33:48]
Why are we making the
[2:33:49]
requirements harder for
[2:33:51]
companies that are already
[2:33:53]
headquartered, chose to be
[2:33:54]
headquartered in miami-dade
[2:33:56]
county and creating a more
[2:33:58]
accessible pathway for firms
[2:33:59]
headquartered elsewhere.
[2:34:01]
You are one of the major
[2:34:02]
counties in the nation, you
[2:34:04]
want to attract big companies
[2:34:06]
to become locally headquartered
[2:34:08]
here, this is the big game and
[2:34:10]
if this as it is stands today
[2:34:12]
it will destroy your local
[2:34:13]
headquartered businesses as
[2:34:18]
well and is your sbe's.
[2:34:20]
As well as the production
[2:34:28]
capacity of your system.
[2:34:30]
>>public speaker: good morning
[2:34:32]
staff, my name is franco
[2:34:38]
antonio, regional director for
[2:34:39]
engineering.
[2:34:40]
I want to talk to you about a
[2:34:42]
locally headquartered firms and
[2:34:44]
respectfully ask you to reject
[2:34:55]
recommendations 16, 25, 33,
[2:34:57]
3435 and 37, thank you and I'm
[2:34:57]
an engineer.
[2:34:59]
The small business cannot
[2:35:00]
survive on 10 or 15% number
[2:35:05]
one, number two the locally
[2:35:06]
headquarters are a bridge for
[2:35:08]
small businesses, I used to be
[2:35:10]
a small business and when you
[2:35:12]
are small business
[2:35:14]
undergraduate nobody wants to
[2:35:16]
work with you anymore because
[2:35:17]
the big companies compete in
[2:35:19]
the little ones don't want you
[2:35:30]
to compete so there's a little
[2:35:32]
sized where the locally
[2:35:33]
headquartered was created and
[2:35:35]
that's a bridge to go from a
[2:35:36]
small business to a midsized
[2:35:38]
business and hopefully in the
[2:35:40]
future grow into a large
[2:35:40]
business.
[2:35:42]
And I'm an engineer so I've got
[2:35:44]
to do the numbers rip current
[2:35:47]
locally headquartered ordinance
[2:35:49]
we have in place works perfect.
[2:35:51]
Let me tell you how it works,
[2:35:53]
it's perfect, whoever did it
[2:35:55]
did and excellent job.
[2:35:56]
It's 55% for the large
[2:35:58]
companies, they only have to
[2:35:59]
give to the local and small
[2:36:00]
55%.
[2:36:02]
Small companies 25% and locally
[2:36:03]
headquartered 20 and it's
[2:36:05]
perfect, everybody works and we
[2:36:07]
grow local headquarters, thank
[2:36:07]
you.
[2:36:15]
>>chair: MR. Zach,
[2:36:17]
>>public speaker: 235 north
[2:36:19]
miami avenue on behalf of my
[2:36:20]
client jen moore and
[2:36:21]
associates.
[2:36:23]
Janet moore was my first client
[2:36:24]
in my business and I've been
[2:36:35]
representing him since we
[2:36:36]
started.
[2:36:37]
And I'm proud to represent them
[2:36:38]
for that time.
[2:36:39]
Hey started
[2:36:41]
their business in south florida
[2:36:42]
miami-dade and broward county.
[2:36:44]
Hey had an atr in miami-dade
[2:36:45]
county for the entirety of the
[2:36:47]
time and existed and there very
[2:36:49]
proud to have started in your
[2:36:51]
small business program and
[2:36:52]
graduated from it.
[2:36:54]
What I encourage you to do if
[2:36:55]
you look at all these changes
[2:36:57]
and not only these changes but
[2:36:59]
your current ordinances on the
[2:37:00]
books, some of them need to be
[2:37:02]
changed to really think about
[2:37:04]
whether or not they actually
[2:37:05]
increase efficiency in the
[2:37:07]
procurement process, I submit
[2:37:07]
they don't.
[2:37:09]
They probably invite preemption
[2:37:18]
from the state.
[2:37:19]
And the people you are leaving
[2:37:21]
behind are the ones that
[2:37:23]
started their businesses here.
[2:37:24]
Graduate from the program as
[2:37:26]
you intend them to do as they
[2:37:28]
are supposed to do and then
[2:37:29]
grow.
[2:37:29]
>>chair: thank you.
[2:37:30]
Ll right.
[2:37:39]
I have let me see, this is
[2:37:40]
tricky because a lot of them
[2:37:41]
tried to sign up twice.
[2:37:48]
Deborah swain.
[2:37:58]
Did I already call alejandra?
[2:37:58]
Angel.
[2:38:30]
[Reading names]
[2:38:32]
>>public speaker: deborah
[2:38:34]
swain, pages business addresses
[2:38:35]
20625 southwest. 32nd avenue
[2:38:37]
and I'm here to speak on three
[2:38:39]
different items, 5f, 5g and 5h
[2:38:41]
and I wonder if I need to do
[2:38:42]
them all at the same time or
[2:38:43]
can I continue?
[2:38:45]
I'll be as brief as possible
[2:38:49]
risk with respect to the entire
[2:38:51]
process that came up with the
[2:38:53]
recommendations from the strict
[2:38:54]
committee to reduce
[2:38:56]
inefficiency in procurements,
[2:38:58]
as you heard there were no sbe
[2:38:59]
firms and no locally
[2:39:01]
headquartered firms represented
[2:39:02]
on the task force but however
[2:39:04]
many recommendations are on the
[2:39:06]
back of those particular types
[2:39:07]
of firms here.
[2:39:09]
I want to address
[2:39:11]
recommendation number nine for
[2:39:13]
example, elimination of firm
[2:39:15]
level commitments eliminates
[2:39:16]
protections in place to
[2:39:18]
individual firms in the event
[2:39:23]
they failed to honor their
[2:39:24]
commitments to these firms,
[2:39:26]
there is no consequence.
[2:39:27]
My recommendation is to
[2:39:29]
eliminate it and work with the
[2:39:30]
small business community to
[2:39:32]
come up with a way to address
[2:39:35]
this, recommendation number 10
[2:39:37]
eliminates the process for
[2:39:38]
establishing small business
[2:39:40]
goals reading this a standard
[2:39:42]
was put in place I understand
[2:39:43]
from staff it was intended to
[2:39:45]
be a minimum, can I go to the
[2:39:46]
next item.
[2:39:47]
>chair: that was your time,
[2:39:48]
thank you.
[2:39:50]
>>public speaker: my name is
[2:39:52]
juan presley, northeast 26th
[2:39:54]
terrace and I'm the owner of an
[2:39:56]
sp firm and today I'm speaking
[2:39:59]
as a chairperson with the sbe
[2:40:00]
architectural engineering
[2:40:00]
applied board.
[2:40:05]
This board consists of has been
[2:40:07]
in existence for five years and
[2:40:08]
consists of 14 members,
[2:40:11]
presently there's three same
[2:40:13]
architects, for practicing
[2:40:15]
engineers and one fiu engineer
[2:40:17]
professional we have successful
[2:40:20]
rated advanced sounding boards
[2:40:23]
sbe issues and recommendation,
[2:40:27]
solutions to spd spd prepares
[2:40:34]
outreach certifications and
[2:40:36]
unit utilization as we advised
[2:40:37]
people on those reports.
[2:40:43]
On our last board meeting JULY
[2:40:44]
29 I'd like to point out about
[2:40:47]
the certified directory.
[2:40:54]
There are a total of 247.
[2:40:58]
>>chair: your minute is up.
[2:40:59]
The clock is they are, you are
[2:41:01]
over by 15 seconds.
[2:41:34]
Sir, hello.
[2:41:36]
>>public speaker: good morning,
[2:41:38]
mayor, distinguished
[2:41:39]
commissioners, my name is
[2:41:41]
angel, I'm a humble architect.
[2:41:42]
Will abide by the rules
[2:41:44]
today just in case, thank you
[2:41:45]
to our officers for our
[2:41:47]
service, I'd like to keep
[2:41:49]
things simple, that's the way
[2:41:50]
I've been since I've been a
[2:41:52]
young man, since I had dark
[2:41:53]
hair in those days.
[2:41:54]
Y office
[2:41:55]
is at 1236-year-old southwest
[2:41:57]
132nd court and this weekend
[2:41:59]
I'm a grandfather of one little
[2:42:01]
boy but this weekend I was told
[2:42:03]
both my daughters are pregnant
[2:42:04]
with two little girls a month
[2:42:05]
apart.
[2:42:06]
I've got to tell you, the
[2:42:08]
reason I'm here to talk about
[2:42:09]
these small business
[2:42:11]
administration or enterprise
[2:42:12]
deals is because you're going
[2:42:14]
to need more milk in the house.
[2:42:16]
A lot of you have seen me
[2:42:16]
around.
[2:42:18]
I am as a small business
[2:42:19]
architect here in the county
[2:42:21]
for 55 years, second generation
[2:42:23]
architect and I am the
[2:42:24]
architect of the westchester
[2:42:26]
library health and wellness
[2:42:28]
center which commissioner
[2:42:29]
rodriguez was there on the
[2:42:31]
grand opening and architect of
[2:42:33]
the james e scott restoration,
[2:42:34]
tremendous project,
[2:42:35]
commissioner hardemon was
[2:42:36]
there.
[2:42:37]
Ery emotional, fire
[2:42:43]
station 71 which mayor cava was
[2:42:43]
there.
[2:42:45]
I thought you were following
[2:42:46]
the rules, you'd better say
[2:42:48]
thank you, you got us excited.
[2:43:03]
We will be making a difference.
[2:43:04]
>>public speaker: I am a high
[2:43:07]
school senior and cofounder of
[2:43:09]
miami-dade commission watch and
[2:43:11]
my address is protected from
[2:43:12]
disclosure, here to support
[2:43:14]
item 5f, 5f improves
[2:43:15]
accountability for small and
[2:43:17]
big businesses like across the
[2:43:19]
county, for example the county
[2:43:21]
has the ability to audit if a
[2:43:23]
company is local, expanding the
[2:43:25]
process for companies across
[2:43:26]
the county but one rule is
[2:43:27]
missing, 5f deletes the line
[2:43:29]
that reserves contracts over
[2:43:31]
250,004 small businesses, the
[2:43:34]
introduction says a new rule
[2:43:36]
will replace it but lacks a
[2:43:37]
clear deadline and since 2024
[2:43:39]
the county doesn't publish any
[2:43:41]
of those awards so my ask is
[2:43:43]
simple, codify it and accounted
[2:43:45]
but put a deadline in the
[2:43:46]
ordinance in the same matter
[2:43:49]
today's public hearings provide
[2:43:50]
transparency and accountability
[2:43:52]
to local governments I ask you
[2:43:54]
uphold counties to the same
[2:43:56]
standards, thank you for your
[2:43:57]
time and please listen to the
[2:43:59]
words of your residence, thank
[2:44:00]
you.
[2:44:01]
>>commissioner gilbert: point
[2:44:02]
of order.
[2:44:04]
The point of order is I want
[2:44:05]
everybody to be quiet.
[2:44:07]
He was speaking and making some
[2:44:09]
great points and there's a lot
[2:44:17]
of conversations.
[2:44:19]
I know we haven't seen each
[2:44:21]
other in a wild, calm down so
[2:44:23]
we can pay attention to the
[2:44:28]
speakers, thank you.
[2:44:29]
>>chair: ma'am.
[2:44:31]
>>public speaker: thank you
[2:44:33]
commissioners, mayor kava, my
[2:44:35]
address is 1431 ne. 201st
[2:44:41]
terrace miami florida and I'm
[2:44:43]
the owner of grimes consulting
[2:44:44]
and sbe certified firm in
[2:44:46]
miami-dade county and I issued
[2:44:47]
a statement summary for your
[2:44:49]
review, you should have in
[2:44:49]
front of you.
[2:44:50]
Our ask is simple.
[2:44:52]
On this item we urge you to
[2:44:54]
defer it and require a public
[2:44:56]
small business analysis,
[2:44:57]
efficiency matters and I
[2:45:04]
support that but so does
[2:45:06]
injuring local businesses have
[2:45:08]
meaningful access to county
[2:45:08]
contracts.
[2:45:10]
Before changing these
[2:45:11]
protections small business
[2:45:13]
owners need to understand who
[2:45:21]
benefits, who loses opportunity
[2:45:22]
and how accountability will be
[2:45:23]
maintained.
[2:45:25]
Do not consider 5f until the
[2:45:26]
county releases a small
[2:45:28]
business impact analysis and
[2:45:30]
hold meaningful consultations
[2:45:32]
with affected businesses.
[2:45:32]
thank you.
[2:45:34]
>>chair: thank you ma'am.
[2:45:36]
I've got mark drummond.
[2:45:40]
Mark and marianna.
[2:45:40]
Josc
[2:45:44]
[Reading names] Those are my
[2:45:54]
last 4. Mark drummond, sir.
[2:45:59]
>>public speaker: mark drummond
[2:46:01]
, we are a certified small
[2:46:06]
business in the county.
[2:46:08]
We want to express our strong
[2:46:09]
opposition to the proposed
[2:46:11]
ordinance impacting amd forms.
[2:46:14]
I've publicly spoken about it,
[2:46:15]
5g.
[2:46:17]
I think it would be detrimental
[2:46:20]
to small business.
[2:46:22]
While it's presented the
[2:46:24]
measure to improve procurement
[2:46:25]
efficiency and many of its
[2:46:27]
provisions will have the
[2:46:33]
opposite effect creating
[2:46:35]
significant disadvantages for
[2:46:37]
local small businesses while
[2:46:38]
disproportionately benefiting
[2:46:40]
large multinational
[2:46:41]
organizations, most concerning
[2:46:43]
is those changes appear to
[2:46:44]
undermine decades of successful
[2:46:47]
small business participation on
[2:46:48]
county projects.
[2:46:51]
It's particularly worrisome of
[2:46:53]
the composition of the task
[2:46:53]
force.
[2:46:55]
Not a single member of the
[2:46:57]
246th certified amd small
[2:46:59]
businesses or on that committee
[2:47:00]
and only three of its four key
[2:47:02]
members currently represent amd
[2:47:02]
firms.
[2:47:05]
We hope you would consider this
[2:47:22]
and vote to eliminate those
[2:47:23]
provisions.
[2:47:25]
>>public speaker: good morning
[2:47:26]
everyone, delta consultants, I
[2:47:28]
am a small business owner in
[2:47:29]
miami-dade county.
[2:47:31]
Home address is 4841 northwest.
[2:47:33]
First avenue and I come here to
[2:47:35]
second basically I think my
[2:47:36]
colleagues have mentioned the
[2:47:38]
small business community and a
[2:47:40]
and the world in this county.
[2:47:41]
It's extremely important.
[2:47:43]
Not only to develop the local
[2:47:44]
workforce but also it helps
[2:47:46]
keep and maintains and
[2:47:48]
accessibility to the county for
[2:47:49]
local firms that are
[2:47:51]
knowledgeable of the issues
[2:47:52]
within miami-dade county
[2:47:54]
itself, more than any other
[2:47:55]
company that can come from
[2:47:57]
outside of the local county.
[2:47:59]
We as the sp community together
[2:48:08]
months ago a letter to all of
[2:48:09]
you that was sent out and
[2:48:10]
signed by over 100 firms.
[2:48:12]
I urge you to look into those
[2:48:14]
letters and read it carefully.
[2:48:22]
This was sent back in MARCH 11
[2:48:24]
it was signed by over 100
[2:48:24]
firms.
[2:48:26]
Today I asked we both know or
[2:48:28]
at least defer items 5f, 5g and
[2:48:28]
5h.
[2:48:30]
These items should not pass
[2:48:32]
without meaningful impact from
[2:48:33]
the sp community.
[2:48:34]
>>.
[2:48:36]
>>public speaker: josc process
[2:48:37]
here for item 5m.
[2:48:42]
This is a plot waiver.
[2:48:44]
This is started three years
[2:48:45]
ago, the first time the public
[2:48:47]
gets to hear about it read
[2:48:49]
every time I've asked about it
[2:48:51]
and I've knocked on all the
[2:48:52]
doors as some of you I'm proud
[2:49:07]
to see you in front of this
[2:49:09]
dais and I'm proud you are up
[2:49:11]
here and I thank you for your
[2:49:13]
service because I know this is
[2:49:14]
difficult but I've knocked on
[2:49:16]
doors and nobody wants this
[2:49:18]
development and this
[2:49:19]
development is basically a
[2:49:21]
condo association in the middle
[2:49:23]
of a single-family own
[2:49:24]
community, they say it's two
[2:49:26]
duplexes but these units are up
[2:49:26]
or $1.85 million each townhome.
[2:49:28]
On the corner of 63rd avenue
[2:49:30]
and 27th street, this is total
[2:49:32]
villains, this is total terrace
[2:49:34]
as we like to call it
[2:49:35]
eastchester.
[2:49:36]
This is a single-family home
[2:49:37]
community over 100 years old
[2:49:39]
built by veterans.
[2:49:41]
We would ask that you keep it
[2:49:42]
single-family.
[2:49:43]
I am so happy all of you voted
[2:49:45]
against this plot waiver in
[2:49:45]
JULY.
[2:49:47]
The gentleman asked what is
[2:49:49]
proverbial but with this board
[2:49:50]
and go ahead and continued
[2:49:52]
building until it's off, thank
[2:50:01]
you for being on time.
[2:50:03]
>> survey palm beach speaking
[2:50:04]
about the blue nest
[2:50:06]
developments, obviously lunesta
[2:50:07]
has developed a lot of areas
[2:50:09]
around here, wild florida
[2:50:30]
growth has a lot of concerns
[2:50:32]
but massive builds, whatever it
[2:50:34]
is, blue nest is at the core of
[2:50:36]
that but not the only one.
[2:50:37]
It's unfortunate there is
[2:50:39]
limited opportunity to speak on
[2:50:41]
the elements like this,
[2:50:42]
furthermore item of kelly
[2:50:44]
tractor as we talked about for
[2:50:45]
the eighth time but technically
[2:50:47]
we are not allowed to talk on
[2:50:48]
it but it's a huge development
[2:50:50]
in the everglades and
[2:50:51]
functioning everglades.
[2:50:53]
We have clean water over there,
[2:50:55]
it cleans herons, gators, all
[2:50:57]
that beautiful wildlife and
[2:50:59]
kelly tractor is going on the
[2:51:00]
wrong side of the urban
[2:51:02]
development boundary item
[2:51:03]
should never have been
[2:51:05]
considered because it's on the
[2:51:06]
wrong side of the boundary
[2:51:08]
should have been look on the
[2:51:10]
other side where you have
[2:51:12]
permitted development and
[2:51:13]
residential dense housing and
[2:51:15]
not just put the wild
[2:51:16]
everglades at risk of rural
[2:51:18]
areas and it must not happen as
[2:51:19]
bc wild florida develop it
[2:51:21]
should not be approved today,
[2:51:21]
thank you.
[2:51:23]
>chair: your name.
[2:51:25]
>>public speaker: I registered
[2:51:27]
but for some reason I wasn't
[2:51:28]
called.
[2:51:29]
>>chair: did I call sean?
[2:51:30]
You can approach as well.
[2:51:32]
>public speaker: CHAIRMAN,
[2:51:34]
mayor and as I said my name is
[2:51:36]
andrea's, 5875 77th terrace in
[2:51:36]
south miami.
[2:51:38]
I am also a member of
[2:51:41]
leadership miami class xlviii,
[2:51:43]
I came to miami to earn my
[2:51:44]
masters degree at fiu so I've
[2:51:47]
been part of the community, I
[2:51:52]
settled my roots here and not
[2:51:53]
experienced what these
[2:51:55]
humidities have done from my
[2:51:58]
growth and that's why I
[2:51:59]
recognizemaking a long-term
[2:52:01]
impact for some of the large
[2:52:03]
companies is a benefit for the
[2:52:05]
community and I am one example
[2:52:07]
of those, I contributed back
[2:52:10]
and I continue to do it so I
[2:52:11]
support the large local
[2:52:13]
designation and I ask you to do
[2:52:13]
the same, thank you.
[2:52:22]
>>chair: thank you, sir.
[2:52:24]
>> sean lozano, I reside at
[2:52:26]
9160 royal palm boulevard and
[2:52:38]
is speaking about 5h, financial
[2:52:40]
equity is the equivalent of
[2:52:42]
financial responsibility and as
[2:52:43]
a former police officer I'd
[2:52:45]
like to remind this commission
[2:52:47]
and people of dade county of
[2:52:49]
the 210 disaster which was the
[2:52:51]
improper invocation of
[2:52:52]
financial urgency.
[2:52:54]
It cost first responders
[2:52:56]
thousands if not hundreds of
[2:52:58]
thousands in benefit and income
[2:52:59]
and they are still picking up
[2:53:01]
the pieces of that today and I
[2:53:03]
urge this powerful commission
[2:53:06]
to do more than platitudes,
[2:53:07]
something I would say all the
[2:53:09]
time I would hear politicians
[2:53:11]
say we back the blue but how do
[2:53:13]
you back the blue red the
[2:53:14]
commissioners on this council
[2:53:16]
and that the blue by taking
[2:53:18]
action to invest locally in the
[2:53:20]
best of us which is our first
[2:53:21]
responders men and women in
[2:53:23]
blue and red and those who will
[2:53:24]
do what others cannot.
[2:53:26]
>>chair: those are the names I
[2:53:27]
have, anybody that I did not
[2:53:28]
call their name?
[2:53:37]
So public hearing is now
[2:53:37]
closed.
[2:53:39]
Does anyone wish to bifurcate
[2:53:42]
any items?
[2:53:43]
Commissioner cohen higgins,
[2:53:50]
which ones.
[2:53:52]
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I
[2:53:53]
bifurcate 5d for a motion.
[2:53:55]
If the attorneys can please
[2:54:00]
read my motion on 5d.
[2:54:02]
>>chair: I was going to but
[2:54:03]
give me a second.
[2:54:19]
Any, commissioner regalado.
[2:54:21]
>>commissioner regalado: there
[2:54:22]
was a request at the beginning
[2:54:24]
of the meeting to bifurcate
[2:54:26]
some of the fives so if we can
[2:54:28]
have the attorneys repeat that,
[2:54:30]
specifically I think we've
[2:54:31]
divided all the procurement
[2:54:33]
ones up so we can go through
[2:54:34]
them one by one.
[2:54:36]
>> I had request to bifurcate
[2:54:38]
5d just now by commissioner
[2:54:39]
cohen higgins, 5f substitute,
[2:54:41]
5g substitute, 5h substitute,
[2:54:43]
5m, 5p, 5u so those would be
[2:54:51]
the ones that are bifurcated.
[2:54:56]
5m, the five are bifurcated, 5m
[2:55:00]
as in mary, and 5u.
[2:55:13]
>> that is just to vote no.
[2:55:14]
>> I have 5m and I like to
[2:55:20]
speak on.
[2:55:21]
So commissioner gilbert moves
[2:55:24]
5p and youth, seconded by
[2:55:26]
commissioner higgins, clerk
[2:55:36]
please call the gold.
[2:55:43]
Please call the roll on 5p and
[2:55:43]
5u.
[2:55:49]
>>senator garcia: no.
[2:55:51]
>>commissioner hardemon:
[2:56:13]
>>commissioner lopez: motion
[2:56:14]
passes 11 to 1.
[2:56:16]
>>chair: I will entertain a
[2:56:18]
motion on the remainder of the
[2:56:21]
items not bifurcated.
[2:56:22]
We have a motion by
[2:56:26]
commissioner cohen higgins.
[2:56:30]
>> I thought 5e.
[2:56:36]
Those were all bifurcated MADAM
[2:56:37]
Attorney, were they not?
[2:56:40]
>> I read those as bifurcated.
[2:56:48]
>> I said the non-bifurcated
[2:56:49]
items so we have a motion,
[2:56:51]
second by commissioner gilbert.
[2:56:53]
A clerk please call the roll.
[2:56:55]
>> senator garcia.
[2:57:14]
Commissioner gilbert.
[2:57:18]
Motion passes unanimously.
[2:57:26]
>>chair: you are recognized on
[2:57:27]
5d.
[2:57:29]
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I
[2:57:30]
want to recognize the young man
[2:57:32]
that came, the 11th grader
[2:57:34]
sebastian gill, thank you for
[2:57:35]
your testimony in support of 5d
[2:57:37]
and I want to reassure the
[2:57:39]
young man who did an excellent
[2:57:41]
job that 5d does have strong
[2:57:44]
deadlines and accountability in
[2:57:45]
accordance to offering some
[2:57:48]
real affordable homeownership
[2:57:49]
opportunities in district 8 so
[2:57:51]
thank you to the young man MR.
[2:57:53]
Sebastian gill to the attorney
[2:57:59]
can you read my motion on 5d.
[2:58:01]
>> moved to amend agenda item
[2:58:02]
5d to remove the property
[2:58:04]
currently bearing folio number
[2:58:08]
1078 1200706 40 from
[2:58:10]
consideration for conveyance
[2:58:16]
habitat for humanity of greater
[2:58:18]
miami and of florida not for
[2:58:19]
profit and delete all
[2:58:21]
references to such folio to the
[2:58:22]
end of the item and make any
[2:58:30]
necessary conforming changes.
[2:58:32]
>>commissioner cohen higgins:
[2:58:34]
there are other folios, they
[2:58:36]
requested removal of this
[2:58:37]
particular parcel which became
[2:58:39]
difficult for them to construct
[2:58:40]
on so they requested this
[2:58:42]
particular folio you removed
[2:58:44]
from consideration, thank you
[2:58:54]
MR. Chair.
[2:58:56]
>>chair: seconded by
[2:58:57]
commissioner gilbert, roll
[2:58:58]
call.
[2:58:59]
Ll in favor signify by
[2:59:01]
saying aye, opposed, nay. Show
[2:59:02]
the item past.
[2:59:03]
Ommissioner on
[2:59:15]
5 and.
[2:59:17]
>> is came to my attention in
[2:59:19]
APRIL at which time I requested
[2:59:21]
a deferral because I got a lot
[2:59:22]
of feedback.
[2:59:23]
I went myself by this
[2:59:25]
neighborhood schenley park, I'm
[2:59:27]
familiar with his neighborhood
[2:59:28]
and when I found out it was a
[2:59:30]
proposal were two duplexes on
[2:59:32]
these small parcels of land it
[2:59:34]
didn't make sense or conform to
[2:59:36]
the neighborhood so I asked for
[2:59:38]
a deferral we could figure out
[2:59:40]
what we could do and in doing
[2:59:41]
my research I found out where
[2:59:43]
along the line there was an
[2:59:45]
ordinance change that allowed
[2:59:47]
this type of use to be done
[2:59:49]
administratively and basically
[2:59:50]
doesn't give us any
[2:59:52]
jurisdiction over the matter so
[2:59:54]
I want to ask the county
[2:59:55]
attorneys can you explain why I
[2:59:57]
keep being told this has to
[2:59:58]
pass and I have a few
[3:00:00]
questions, can we defer it
[3:00:01]
today and if not, why and what
[3:00:06]
is the appropriate cause for
[3:00:06]
denial.
[3:00:08]
>> class items under florida
[3:00:10]
law must be approved unless
[3:00:11]
there is evidence showing they
[3:00:13]
don't comply with the criteria
[3:00:15]
in the statutes and this is
[3:00:17]
pursuant to florida supreme
[3:00:18]
court decision this is
[3:00:19]
quasijudicial so that limits
[3:00:30]
how many times it will be
[3:00:31]
deferred.
[3:00:32]
>> what is the proper evidence.
[3:00:34]
>> evidence showing it doesn't
[3:00:36]
comply with the criteria in
[3:00:37]
chapter 28 of the county code.
[3:00:39]
And I defer to our er to
[3:00:40]
explain those technical
[3:00:42]
criteria but they relate to
[3:00:43]
public improvements and
[3:00:45]
dedications of right-of-way.
[3:00:47]
>>commissioner cohen higgins:
[3:01:03]
can we have our er expand?
[3:01:04]
>> good morning commissioners.
[3:01:06]
For this plan generally for a
[3:01:08]
plat the rules relate to the
[3:01:09]
subdivision of land sold
[3:01:11]
confirm the size of the
[3:01:12]
property meets code and confirm
[3:01:29]
the utilities are in place.
[3:01:30]
>>commissioner cohen higgins:
[3:01:32]
I'm asking these questions
[3:01:34]
because we have a resident
[3:01:35]
who's against this and I've
[3:01:37]
received numerous phone calls
[3:01:39]
and emails against this plat.
[3:01:41]
I wanted the resident to
[3:01:43]
understand I have been the last
[3:01:44]
couple of months trying to
[3:01:46]
figure out how we can do right
[3:01:46]
by them.
[3:01:48]
My question to the attorneys is
[3:01:50]
what happens today if we vote
[3:01:51]
this down?
[3:01:53]
>> that could be grounds for an
[3:01:55]
appeal of the board's decision.
[3:01:56]
It could be the applicant or
[3:01:58]
anyone else who has appeared at
[3:02:00]
this hearing and objected.
[3:02:02]
>> the 11th judicial circuit
[3:02:03]
appellate division.
[3:02:04]
>>.
[3:02:06]
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I
[3:02:10]
am not comfortable with this
[3:02:12]
and hearing our residents are
[3:02:13]
against this I know I've spoken
[3:02:15]
on this before as this item has
[3:02:16]
come up, shelby park is
[3:02:18]
entirely single-family homes.
[3:02:20]
Although the designs proposed
[3:02:22]
are beautiful I don't think
[3:02:24]
they conform with the
[3:02:25]
neighborhood I am okay with it
[3:02:27]
going through the process and I
[3:02:28]
would motion to deny it.
[3:02:30]
>> there is a motion and there
[3:02:31]
is a second.
[3:02:33]
So motion and a second to deny,
[3:02:34]
you are recognized.
[3:02:37]
>> thank you MR. Chair, I think
[3:02:39]
I raise an interesting issue
[3:02:49]
because nowhere in the item has
[3:02:51]
anyone the administration, the
[3:02:53]
attorneys articulated this very
[3:02:55]
important piece of information
[3:02:57]
shared with us on the
[3:02:57]
microphone.
[3:02:59]
I.E. This is not a
[3:03:00]
discretionary item for us to
[3:03:02]
vote up or down, we're saying
[3:03:04]
if it needs statutory
[3:03:05]
requirements we are mandated by
[3:03:06]
law to approve this.
[3:03:09]
I'm not sure why that critical
[3:03:10]
information is not included in
[3:03:22]
the item because our residents
[3:03:24]
read these items, they organize
[3:03:26]
the petitioner office as they
[3:03:28]
should do and we are here to
[3:03:29]
reflect the voices of our
[3:03:31]
residents which is what the
[3:03:32]
district is trying to do so
[3:03:34]
this puts us in an awkward
[3:03:36]
position and I don't understand
[3:03:38]
why that level of critical
[3:03:39]
information is not included in
[3:03:40]
an item like this.
[3:03:42]
Why are we learning of this
[3:03:43]
requirement at this juncture.
[3:03:45]
The final hearing to the
[3:03:46]
attorneys.
[3:03:48]
>> happy to work with you and
[3:03:49]
menstruation moving forward to
[3:03:51]
ensure approval for items like
[3:03:52]
this.
[3:03:54]
>>commissioner cohen higgins: I
[3:03:56]
don't know that needs to be a
[3:03:57]
policy decision or an item,
[3:03:59]
that's just the level of
[3:04:00]
transparency our residents
[3:04:02]
deserve so they can understand
[3:04:04]
what the position we're in and
[3:04:06]
the discretion we have or don't
[3:04:08]
have which is applicable in
[3:04:09]
this instance, I support the
[3:04:11]
district commissioner and her
[3:04:13]
decision to say this is not
[3:04:14]
conforming with the
[3:04:16]
neighborhood or appropriate in
[3:04:18]
the neighborhood, I'm not sure
[3:04:19]
where it takes us legally and
[3:04:21]
it's not advisable for us to
[3:04:23]
have conversations on the
[3:04:24]
microphone but if the
[3:04:26]
commissioner doesn't support it
[3:04:27]
I don't either.
[3:04:29]
>> I wanted to add I've been
[3:04:30]
working with the county
[3:04:32]
attorneys on legislation that
[3:04:34]
would change this in the future
[3:04:36]
so that it would come to us so
[3:04:37]
we can have jurisdiction for
[3:04:39]
these types of flats.
[3:04:40]
I'm working on already for the
[3:04:42]
county attorney's office
[3:04:43]
because to me it was offensive
[3:04:45]
to find out about this just on
[3:04:47]
the agenda and to be told
[3:04:48]
there's nothing you can do
[3:04:50]
about this, it has to go
[3:04:51]
forward when all these
[3:04:52]
residents are not okay with it
[3:04:54]
and it doesn't with the
[3:04:54]
neighbor.
[3:04:56]
>>chair: thank you,
[3:04:57]
commissioner regalado.
[3:04:59]
>>commissioner regalado: thank
[3:05:01]
you MR. Chair. I have questions
[3:05:02]
in terms of compliance and I
[3:05:04]
agree with my colleagues, i
[3:05:05]
don't want to get into a whole
[3:05:07]
conversation about our rules
[3:05:09]
and quasijudicial but in terms
[3:05:10]
of another deferral or a
[3:05:12]
denial, are we limited in the
[3:05:14]
number of deferrals since the
[3:05:16]
maker has mentioned that she's
[3:05:23]
working on something?
[3:05:24]
And if so can we leave it
[3:05:26]
because it's our rule.
[3:05:28]
If there is a limitation on
[3:05:29]
federal can we waive our rule
[3:05:31]
to defer it again as she
[3:05:33]
continues to work on an item
[3:05:34]
instead of a denial that would
[3:05:35]
trigger court action?
[3:05:37]
>> there is no limitation in
[3:05:39]
this board's procedures
[3:05:40]
limiting the number of
[3:05:41]
procedures.
[3:05:43]
>>commissioner regalado: just
[3:05:44]
putting that out there since
[3:05:46]
you're working on something, it
[3:05:48]
will come up again and again
[3:05:50]
but you could defer it for a
[3:05:51]
period of time depending on
[3:05:53]
what you're working on and then
[3:05:55]
it's not foreclosed completely,
[3:05:57]
it's still difficult but not
[3:05:58]
foreclosed.
[3:05:59]
>> I'd be happy to entertain a
[3:06:07]
motion to defer and I want to
[3:06:08]
add my staff brought up to me
[3:06:10]
and I did notice because I
[3:06:12]
drive by there all the time
[3:06:13]
these developers have already
[3:06:15]
begun construction, they've
[3:06:18]
begun laying the foundation for
[3:06:19]
this property and without
[3:06:21]
knowing if they were going to
[3:06:22]
get an approval or not.
[3:06:24]
That is astounding.
[3:06:26]
It is terrible we are basically
[3:06:27]
bound by this and we have no
[3:06:28]
say.
[3:06:29]
That speaks volumes of what the
[3:06:31]
expectations are for these
[3:06:33]
applications, they are assuming
[3:06:37]
we are going to approve it.
[3:06:39]
>> have these two second
[3:06:40]
approval.
[3:06:43]
>>chair: commissioner bermudez.
[3:06:44]
>>commissioner bermudez: I'm
[3:06:46]
going to support the county but
[3:06:54]
I am a little bit, actually I'm
[3:06:55]
very confused.
[3:06:57]
A lot of times and we got a
[3:06:58]
friend to your right that says
[3:06:59]
no to every plat.
[3:07:01]
A lot of times that plat is
[3:07:03]
just administrative.
[3:07:04]
How did we get here to
[3:07:06]
something that changes the
[3:07:07]
community and changes the
[3:07:09]
makeup of the community, how
[3:07:10]
did we get to the plat before
[3:07:12]
we got to a decision on that.
[3:07:14]
I'd like to know how that
[3:07:14]
happened.
[3:07:16]
Did this get through before or
[3:07:19]
what's the reasoning there?
[3:07:22]
>> commissioner the zoning was
[3:07:24]
previously approved for this
[3:07:28]
property.
[3:07:29]
>>commissioner bermudez: when
[3:07:30]
was it?
[3:07:32]
>> I defer to rer on that.
[3:07:34]
>> this property is in a
[3:07:35]
neighborhood that's zoned re-1
[3:07:39]
but this application came
[3:07:41]
through which allows for a
[3:07:45]
duplex on the property.
[3:07:46]
>>commissioner bermudez: so it
[3:07:49]
was approved administratively.
[3:07:51]
In general I think as we move
[3:07:59]
forward and I'm in support of
[3:08:00]
commissioner milian orbis but
[3:08:02]
there are plaques who are just
[3:08:03]
plat and truthfully there is
[3:08:05]
not much we can do about it but
[3:08:07]
the reality is they are just
[3:08:08]
plats, there's others like this
[3:08:10]
one that are apparently was
[3:08:13]
approved administratively but
[3:08:14]
the commissioner of the
[3:08:17]
district I'm sure were not
[3:08:18]
aware until it got in front of
[3:08:19]
us.
[3:08:21]
When you work on the policy if
[3:08:23]
anything pops up like that the
[3:08:24]
administration and director
[3:08:26]
should at the very least let
[3:08:28]
the commissioner know when it's
[3:08:30]
in the process so I'll leave my
[3:08:32]
piece at that one and support
[3:08:33]
you.
[3:08:35]
>>chair: commissioner hardemon.
[3:08:37]
>>commissioner hardemon: is
[3:08:41]
this in an unincorporated area
[3:08:43]
and I don't know if you are
[3:08:46]
aware of this but when I was
[3:08:53]
serving as the city of miami
[3:08:54]
commissioner we about the
[3:08:56]
county so the county made
[3:08:57]
changes long before any of us
[3:09:03]
were on the dais but they made
[3:09:04]
changes where in the
[3:09:06]
unincorporated areas it allowed
[3:09:07]
for the development of duplexes
[3:09:09]
and the single-family zoned
[3:09:11]
areas which sounds like that's
[3:09:13]
exactly what this is.
[3:09:14]
Although they are a program
[3:09:19]
that's transferred, etc. But
[3:09:21]
that was a big thing to have
[3:09:23]
been done especially in areas
[3:09:25]
where you have communities that
[3:09:26]
look for a way where most
[3:09:30]
people would like to stay sort
[3:09:33]
of as natural as possible.
[3:09:38]
The single-family zoned areas
[3:09:40]
probably are the most
[3:09:41]
protective space we have in
[3:09:45]
miami-dade county, most of our
[3:09:47]
lots are 5000 feetb2, you have
[3:09:48]
single zoned areas much larger
[3:09:50]
and people want to make changes
[3:09:53]
to that and it involves lots of
[3:09:54]
discussion when you intensify
[3:09:56]
the use of single-family zoned
[3:09:57]
areas where you have 5000 feetb2
[3:10:02]
and you allow for cafc
[3:10:03]
or
[3:10:05]
whatever new terminology that's
[3:10:07]
been made you intensify use,
[3:10:09]
more people, more parking, etc.
[3:10:14]
So if we are to consider for
[3:10:16]
instance what you're going
[3:10:17]
through right now we probably
[3:10:23]
should consider the law that we
[3:10:25]
have on the books right now
[3:10:26]
that makes those types of
[3:10:29]
changes because I can tell you
[3:10:30]
for instance in my district we
[3:10:32]
have a lot of vacant
[3:10:33]
single-family zoned lots.
[3:10:35]
And many of those spots we give
[3:10:52]
to people to develop so they
[3:10:54]
are going to intensify those
[3:10:56]
communities and sometimes in
[3:10:57]
these neighborhoods people
[3:10:58]
don't have voices.
[3:11:00]
Certainly when those things
[3:11:01]
were passed I had no voice in
[3:11:03]
the matter, I wasn't a resident
[3:11:05]
of those unincorporated areas
[3:11:07]
and the commission at the time
[3:11:08]
was all for what was happening.
[3:11:10]
T didn't change necessarily,
[3:11:12]
we didn't get a bunch of houses
[3:11:14]
built but when we did get
[3:11:15]
houses built they were duplexes
[3:11:18]
and now it's a different
[3:11:19]
experience for the people
[3:11:21]
living there so there's a space
[3:11:23]
for all types of development,
[3:11:24]
there's a space for duplexes
[3:11:26]
and tall buildings and short
[3:11:26]
buildings.
[3:11:28]
And no buildings at all but if
[3:11:29]
we don't, if this matters to
[3:11:31]
all of us we should probably
[3:11:33]
reconsider the entirety of the
[3:11:35]
ordinance we have in place that
[3:11:36]
allows this to occur naturally
[3:11:38]
and by right.
[3:11:41]
>>chair: commissioner gilbert.
[3:11:42]
>>commissioner gilbert: thank
[3:11:44]
you MR. Chair. This is not as
[3:11:46]
simple for me and I'll support
[3:11:48]
the district commissioner but
[3:11:56]
let's just be mindful that the
[3:11:58]
housing affordability problem
[3:12:00]
that essentially occurs because
[3:12:02]
of supply and demand didn't
[3:12:15]
happen overnight.
[3:12:18]
It's single determinations so
[3:12:19]
if we stand by the principle
[3:12:22]
that neighborhoods should never
[3:12:23]
change in character and
[3:12:25]
anything that's a change to the
[3:12:26]
character shouldn't be built,
[3:12:28]
then we lock ourselves into an
[3:12:30]
affordability quagmire that's
[3:12:31]
very difficult to overcome.
[3:12:33]
So I think that's why I
[3:12:34]
promoted the rtc density and
[3:12:36]
high faa ours on our major
[3:12:38]
corridors because ultimately we
[3:12:40]
have to increase supply.
[3:12:41]
So these policies were put in
[3:12:43]
place so that with some degree
[3:12:45]
of certainty people could buy
[3:12:50]
properties of a certain size in
[3:12:52]
a certain area and instead of
[3:12:53]
building one house, not build
[3:12:55]
an apartment but build 2,
[3:12:56]
that's why the policies were
[3:12:58]
put in place and I'm not
[3:13:00]
defending the policy is perfect
[3:13:01]
I understand why it exists yet
[3:13:03]
if this board wants to be in
[3:13:04]
the business of saying hey,,
[3:13:06]
we're going to say that policy
[3:13:08]
doesn't exist, okay, we can do
[3:13:09]
that but let me suggest those
[3:13:12]
are the types of decisions that
[3:13:14]
makes tallahassee come in with
[3:13:16]
stuff like live local.
[3:13:18]
Those are the types of
[3:13:19]
decisions because ultimately we
[3:13:25]
are safeguarding what was and
[3:13:27]
we are foreclosing our self
[3:13:28]
from what can be.
[3:13:31]
What in isolation this duplex,
[3:13:36]
I'm okay with, you know the
[3:13:37]
district better than I do and
[3:13:39]
I'll see to that.
[3:13:42]
But understand the gravity of
[3:13:44]
the aggregated effect of the
[3:13:49]
decisions we make as this body
[3:13:50]
because people who came here
[3:13:52]
before us made decisions just
[3:14:01]
like this.
[3:14:03]
So I'm always cognizant of
[3:14:05]
decisions we make that are just
[3:14:06]
like this because we are a
[3:14:08]
different board than prior
[3:14:10]
commissions but to the extent
[3:14:12]
we make decisions that allow,
[3:14:13]
and kind of require us to
[3:14:15]
maintain whatever is and what
[3:14:17]
isn't can't become then we are
[3:14:18]
perpetuating a problem created
[3:14:25]
by someone else.
[3:14:27]
So if we need to have a
[3:14:28]
conversation about what our
[3:14:30]
plan is for housing overall
[3:14:30]
than
[3:14:33]
If we want to reinvest in some
[3:14:35]
people have complied with the
[3:14:41]
rtc, others have not.
[3:14:42]
The rtz is a great way to
[3:14:44]
protect wetlands and stuff out
[3:14:52]
west and it's a great way to
[3:14:54]
protect the sanctity of our
[3:14:55]
single-family homes because we
[3:14:58]
are building along commercial
[3:14:59]
corridors but let me suggest we
[3:15:01]
can't have it both ways.
[3:15:02]
We are going to allow and
[3:15:07]
require density and high faa
[3:15:08]
are along those corridors along
[3:15:11]
all of the county not just the
[3:15:12]
unincorporated parts, the
[3:15:14]
cities also or at some point
[3:15:16]
that urban sprawl will spill
[3:15:18]
out into our pristine
[3:15:20]
agricultural areas and into
[3:15:21]
single-family homes but
[3:15:23]
somewhere supply has to be met
[3:15:25]
or this becomes, further
[3:15:31]
becomes a community that people
[3:15:33]
cannot afford to live in.
[3:15:35]
We are a tourism-based economy
[3:15:37]
fueled by small businesses.
[3:15:38]
People don't make a lot of
[3:15:38]
money.
[3:15:40]
We need more supply.
[3:15:42]
Thank you.
[3:15:44]
>>chair: I have the vice chair
[3:15:50]
and senator garcia.
[3:15:52]
>>vice chair mcghee: if I'm
[3:15:54]
hearing the commissioners
[3:15:56]
position if I'm hearing this
[3:15:57]
correctly two things happen.
[3:15:59]
A decision was made 1 and
[3:16:01]
number two notice was never
[3:16:02]
given to her to have input and
[3:16:04]
i'm wondering to the county
[3:16:17]
attorney as relates to her
[3:16:19]
issue because it seems it would
[3:16:20]
now apply or has always applied
[3:16:23]
to all the commission districts
[3:16:25]
especially when we are making
[3:16:27]
the intent to honor the wishes
[3:16:29]
of a particular commissioner or
[3:16:31]
petitioner district.
[3:16:32]
Is there a way where we can
[3:16:34]
mandate notice to be given to
[3:16:36]
the particular commissioner of
[3:16:38]
that district whenever there's
[3:16:40]
an administrative decision as
[3:16:42]
relates to this particular type
[3:16:44]
of item?
[3:16:46]
>> as commissioner milian orbis
[3:16:48]
mentioned she has legislation
[3:16:50]
that would require notice for
[3:16:52]
workforce housing density bonus
[3:16:53]
applications.
[3:16:55]
>>vice chair mcghee: if I heard
[3:16:56]
you correctly these are
[3:16:58]
important enough where it has
[3:17:02]
to go through based upon state
[3:17:02]
law.
[3:17:04]
>> that is for plat items, not
[3:17:09]
for the density workforce.
[3:17:11]
>> thank you MR. CHAIRMAN and
[3:17:20]
commissioner milian orbis thank
[3:17:21]
you for bringing this item and
[3:17:24]
I agree with your stance and
[3:17:25]
positioning and I understand
[3:17:27]
the argument we have about
[3:17:29]
ensuring that the community is
[3:17:30]
changing and we need more
[3:17:32]
workforce housing or more
[3:17:33]
housing in general but the
[3:17:35]
reality is we have to be
[3:17:36]
careful how we proceed with
[3:17:37]
some of these items.
[3:17:39]
Seeing what commissioner milian
[3:17:47]
orbis brought to us will
[3:17:49]
really, does not go along with
[3:17:51]
the integrity of that community
[3:17:53]
itself, it's not along a rapid
[3:17:54]
transit zone.
[3:17:56]
It doesn't go along with some
[3:17:57]
of the rules we have as relates
[3:17:59]
to housing, this is why we have
[3:18:04]
to be careful, commissioner
[3:18:05]
gilbert on how we proceed
[3:18:06]
forward.
[3:18:07]
Not too long ago we passed an
[3:18:16]
ordinance allowing for in the
[3:18:18]
law corridors in unincorporated
[3:18:20]
dade and we talked about this
[3:18:22]
and this could be a problem
[3:18:23]
because we're going to add more
[3:18:26]
people into these single-family
[3:18:33]
residence communities that we
[3:18:33]
all cherish.
[3:18:35]
So that is an issue we went
[3:18:36]
through and I still think it
[3:18:38]
was the wrong policy for us but
[3:18:40]
when we have those policies in
[3:18:41]
one area this is what it
[3:18:43]
affects in other areas and this
[3:18:45]
is why we have to be careful
[3:18:46]
how we do this and I'm all
[3:18:48]
about density along the rapid
[3:18:49]
transit zone and I think we
[3:18:51]
should encourage that but we
[3:18:52]
have to take a pause when we
[3:18:54]
look at our residential
[3:18:55]
communities and we do need to
[3:18:57]
speak up and voice it because I
[3:18:59]
get growth happens, we have to
[3:19:01]
have responsible growth but at
[3:19:02]
what expense are we going to
[3:19:05]
now start saying, not saying
[3:19:07]
this issue is doing that or any
[3:19:08]
else are saying that.
[3:19:10]
But we have to try to protect,
[3:19:14]
have some conservative ideals
[3:19:25]
and values when it comes to
[3:19:26]
properties, we should do our
[3:19:29]
best to protect some of these
[3:19:31]
neighborhoods, some of these
[3:19:32]
neighborhoods are the fabric
[3:19:34]
and existence of our people so
[3:19:36]
I was happy to seconded, to not
[3:19:38]
only defer it but to deny the
[3:19:40]
item but I understand the
[3:19:41]
policy that exists here right
[3:19:43]
now but I still stand by my
[3:19:44]
second and we will let the
[3:19:57]
courts decide.
[3:19:58]
>>commissioner milian orbis:
[3:20:00]
I'm happy to do the deferral as
[3:20:02]
i'm working on the legislation
[3:20:04]
and I would request it to the
[3:20:05]
second meeting in OCTOBER to
[3:20:07]
allow time to work on that and
[3:20:09]
to commissioner gilberts, what
[3:20:11]
he just said I agree we need to
[3:20:16]
work on the affordability
[3:20:18]
process 100% but these are not
[3:20:20]
affordable homes, these are
[3:20:21]
million-dollar duplexes so I
[3:20:23]
don't know that we are helping
[3:20:24]
anybody in this case.
[3:20:26]
We are not helping a first-time
[3:20:28]
family buying a hold because
[3:20:29]
nobody can afford that.
[3:20:31]
This is a different situation
[3:20:33]
but I agree and I do think we
[3:20:35]
need to look at it overall in
[3:20:36]
general and fix this, thank you
[3:20:38]
MR. CHAIRMAN.
[3:20:40]
>>chair: we are going to be
[3:20:41]
deferring it so you are
[3:20:43]
withdrawing your motion and
[3:20:44]
making a motion to defer to
[3:20:46]
know date certain, second
[3:20:48]
OCTOBER meeting seconded by
[3:20:49]
commissioner regalado so on the
[3:20:50]
deferral.
[3:20:52]
>>commissioner regalado: I want
[3:20:54]
to add really quick since he is
[3:20:55]
working on the item and we have
[3:20:57]
sunshine issues and I'm glad
[3:20:59]
she brought up the point these
[3:21:00]
are not affordable.
[3:21:02]
And it 761 of the situations
[3:21:03]
we're seeing as buying
[3:21:05]
single-family homes and buying
[3:21:06]
duplexes that are
[3:21:08]
multi-million-dollar duplexes,
[3:21:09]
not affordable homes.
[3:21:11]
I live in the pines, in a
[3:21:13]
single-family home surrounded
[3:21:15]
by duplexes for the same reason
[3:21:16]
and I don't know if she's been
[3:21:18]
invaded by the sugar cubes like
[3:21:21]
I have been but that's the
[3:21:22]
deal.
[3:21:23]
The other thing I would say is
[3:21:25]
when we look at this to
[3:21:27]
consider for comp plan purposes
[3:21:34]
that you look at the adjacent
[3:21:35]
properties and the one across.
[3:21:37]
What we are seeing is if you
[3:21:39]
have a series of duplexes and
[3:21:40]
your adding another duplex then
[3:21:42]
that MAY be a buffer of
[3:21:56]
duplexes as you go from our 1
[3:21:58]
to something more substantial
[3:22:00]
but if you have an area where
[3:22:01]
you only have single-family
[3:22:04]
homes and now you're buying a
[3:22:05]
single-family home and tearing
[3:22:07]
it down and using this to put a
[3:22:09]
duplex there you have
[3:22:11]
substantially changed the
[3:22:12]
character of that block so
[3:22:14]
similar to what you do for live
[3:22:15]
local which is you looked at
[3:22:17]
both sides live local should
[3:22:19]
look across the street that's a
[3:22:20]
story for another day.
[3:22:22]
I think a comp plan change that
[3:22:24]
has you looking at what is
[3:22:25]
adjacent and what is across in
[3:22:27]
terms of the change would
[3:22:28]
alleviate some of the concerns.
[3:22:30]
As we comply in a way that is
[3:22:32]
aligned with the states
[3:22:34]
requirement to provide more
[3:22:35]
affordability.
[3:22:37]
>>chair: commissioner lopez.
[3:22:39]
>>commissioner lopez: I want to
[3:22:41]
applaud commissioner milian
[3:22:42]
orbis because in my district
[3:22:44]
you'll see all these duplexes
[3:22:46]
in the middle of these old
[3:22:48]
characteristic neighborhoods in
[3:22:49]
district 5 and they are so out
[3:22:51]
of character and you're right,
[3:22:53]
they are over $1 million.
[3:22:55]
I called to see because there
[3:22:57]
was a group of duplexes for
[3:22:58]
sale in my district and they
[3:23:00]
where a million, 4 and it was
[3:23:02]
shocking because I said first
[3:23:04]
of all their out of character,
[3:23:06]
they are two stories, not just
[3:23:07]
duplexes that look like
[3:23:08]
single-family homes read they
[3:23:10]
are literally buildings that
[3:23:11]
have somewhat destroyed not
[3:23:13]
only the character of the block
[3:23:20]
but the character of the
[3:23:21]
neighborhood so I'm so
[3:23:21]
grateful.
[3:23:23]
I remember this item thinking
[3:23:25]
how did we not know this
[3:23:26]
beforehand and I know you did
[3:23:28]
not know that and that's why
[3:23:30]
you were forced to defer it but
[3:23:31]
I'm grateful for your
[3:23:33]
leadership taking on this
[3:23:34]
project because in fact it has
[3:23:36]
really impacted district 5
[3:23:38]
which is some of the oldest
[3:23:40]
neighborhoods in the city of
[3:23:42]
miami so thank you for that.
[3:23:44]
>>commissioner milian orbis: to
[3:23:45]
the attorneys are they doing
[3:23:47]
work on the property already
[3:23:49]
and if so this is deferred
[3:23:52]
until mid OCTOBER.
[3:23:54]
I'm not sure they are doing the
[3:23:56]
construction appropriately but
[3:23:57]
what I don't want especially if
[3:23:59]
that skips appealed is for them
[3:24:03]
to incur expenses and then come
[3:24:05]
back to us and have an issue
[3:24:07]
created there getting to these
[3:24:08]
details so is it appropriate
[3:24:10]
for them to have begun
[3:24:12]
construction on this property,
[3:24:13]
that's question number one.
[3:24:15]
>> construction has started but
[3:24:17]
they're required to enter into
[3:24:19]
a hold harmless with the
[3:24:20]
county, they are tentative at
[3:24:21]
the plat stage.
[3:24:23]
>> can we enforce that so
[3:24:25]
further construction does not
[3:24:27]
commence to preserve the status
[3:24:28]
quo.
[3:24:29]
>>commissioner bermudez: my
[3:24:31]
point was going to be the same
[3:24:33]
as commissioner cohen higgins
[3:24:35]
but moving forward the fact
[3:24:37]
that someone start construction
[3:24:38]
without a final decision
[3:24:41]
knowingly approved by this body
[3:24:44]
is, and I know it's permitted,
[3:24:46]
we need to look at that and
[3:24:49]
also make sure these things
[3:24:52]
don't happen so I'm hoping you
[3:25:03]
guys review it and finally I'm
[3:25:04]
going to do a plug for what I
[3:25:06]
said earlier on this dais talk
[3:25:08]
about affordable housing, we
[3:25:10]
need to talk about your
[3:25:11]
affordable housing boundary
[3:25:13]
from aventura to florida city
[3:25:15]
and let us have everybody stop
[3:25:20]
getting us testimony that isn't
[3:25:21]
accurate.
[3:25:22]
>>chair: we have a motion to
[3:25:23]
defer, second.
[3:25:25]
All in favor of the deferral
[3:25:27]
signify by saying aye.
[3:25:28]
Opposed, nay. Show the item
[3:25:34]
deferred until the mid OCTOBER
[3:25:34]
meeting.
[3:25:36]
So now I'm going to take up
[3:25:38]
together if anybody needs to
[3:25:39]
split afterwards for voting
[3:25:41]
purposes we can and I'm going
[3:25:43]
to take together the strict
[3:25:44]
task force items which is 5f,
[3:25:50]
5f and 5h substitute.
[3:25:51]
At the appropriate time to make
[3:25:56]
it easier I've heard all of the
[3:25:58]
concerns and discussions of
[3:25:59]
those that came up to speak.
[3:26:01]
And so at the appropriate time
[3:26:06]
I'll ask the attorneys to guide
[3:26:11]
me so I can bifurcate or remove
[3:26:13]
5f, number nine, 10, 11 which
[3:26:16]
will essentially fix the few
[3:26:19]
concerns that were spoken
[3:26:19]
about.
[3:26:21]
I had already removed prior to
[3:26:27]
today in the substitute but we
[3:26:29]
will go ahead and remove nine,
[3:26:33]
10 and 11 from item 5f and work
[3:26:35]
on that with the sp community
[3:26:37]
and bring it back as a separate
[3:26:37]
item.
[3:26:46]
But when we created the task
[3:26:47]
force, the special task force
[3:26:49]
year to reduce inefficiencies
[3:26:51]
and procurement or strip as we
[3:26:53]
call it back in MAY 2025, the
[3:26:55]
goal was to take a hard look at
[3:26:56]
our procurement system and
[3:27:00]
identify opportunities to
[3:27:01]
improve, develop practical
[3:27:03]
solutions that make the process
[3:27:06]
more efficient, transparent,
[3:27:08]
competitive and accountable and
[3:27:10]
after months of work and many
[3:27:11]
meetings this task force had
[3:27:16]
with public hearing to come
[3:27:17]
from the public as well the
[3:27:19]
task force has completed its
[3:27:20]
charge and it delivered to my
[3:27:23]
office 59 final recommendations
[3:27:29]
that provides this board with a
[3:27:31]
roadmap for meaningful
[3:27:33]
procurement reform, something
[3:27:34]
that has not been done in
[3:27:35]
years.
[3:27:36]
We've touched procurement
[3:27:38]
throughout the years but not in
[3:27:40]
a holistic overall reform.
[3:27:46]
Most importantly these 59
[3:27:47]
recommendations when applied
[3:27:57]
into law and is passed will be
[3:27:57]
measured.
[3:27:59]
It will have a measurable
[3:28:01]
impact on the procurement
[3:28:02]
timeline.
[3:28:04]
Currently the estimated
[3:28:05]
procurement process takes 349
[3:28:06]
days.
[3:28:07]
That's the average and as we
[3:28:10]
know sometimes it goes way over
[3:28:11]
that number, rarely does it go
[3:28:13]
beyond 349 days is a
[3:28:14]
conservative average number.
[3:28:16]
By implementing these items
[3:28:18]
that came out of strip that
[3:28:20]
will bring it down and reduce
[3:28:22]
it to somewhere between 120 to
[3:28:28]
100 50 days, that's over 60%
[3:28:29]
reduction in time savings and
[3:28:31]
as we discussed before when the
[3:28:33]
strip committee was passed time
[3:28:35]
reduction also means taxpayers
[3:28:42]
save money, costs stay of the
[3:28:44]
original price, it does not
[3:28:45]
continue to raise.
[3:28:47]
Unless change orders, less
[3:28:48]
price adjustments.
[3:28:50]
It maintains transparency,
[3:28:53]
competition and accountability.
[3:28:54]
I want to thank every member of
[3:28:56]
the task force for their time,
[3:28:57]
expertise and dedication.
[3:28:59]
I know some people mentioned
[3:29:03]
there was sbe on there, there
[3:29:05]
was a locally headquartered
[3:29:06]
companies on their.
[3:29:08]
I know for a fact there were
[3:29:10]
three locally headquartered
[3:29:12]
companies but at least three
[3:29:16]
that I remember.
[3:29:18]
But I want to commend them for
[3:29:31]
striking a balanced work
[3:29:31]
product.
[3:29:33]
Demanding professionalism,
[3:29:35]
professional schedules and
[3:29:36]
professional recommendations
[3:29:38]
and it's difficult when you're
[3:29:40]
there and you work for a
[3:29:41]
company and it's hard to be
[3:29:43]
unbiased but I think they did a
[3:29:46]
decent job at doing that, every
[3:29:48]
member and I want to give a
[3:29:49]
special thanks to our
[3:29:51]
CHAIRWOMAN Diana mendez who is
[3:29:53]
here today I believe, thank you
[3:29:54]
for chairing the committee and
[3:29:56]
I have some members of the
[3:29:58]
committee present so I want to
[3:30:00]
specifically thank those that
[3:30:01]
made it out today.
[3:30:02]
I have aaron, let me see, I
[3:30:03]
have my list here.
[3:30:14]
I have aaron, thank you for
[3:30:14]
being here.
[3:30:16]
I see rudy from afar, thank you
[3:30:17]
for being here.
[3:30:19]
Anyone else from the committee
[3:30:19]
here?
[3:30:21]
Thank you for coming out today
[3:30:25]
and thank you for having
[3:30:25]
served.
[3:30:27]
I know all your time and those
[3:30:31]
of the committee are very
[3:30:32]
impressed yet you still make it
[3:30:34]
to the committee and make it
[3:30:36]
happened and I had faith in
[3:30:40]
you, MADAM Mayor.
[3:30:41]
>>mayor cava: I wanted to add
[3:30:44]
we thank the staff members I
[3:30:48]
will wait.
[3:30:50]
>>chair: I want to take a
[3:30:59]
moment and thank namita, are
[3:31:00]
you here, I'm sure you are.
[3:31:02]
Thank you as well because I
[3:31:10]
know even for yourself it was
[3:31:12]
difficult and challenging to
[3:31:14]
deal with all the committee
[3:31:15]
members, striking a balance
[3:31:17]
between of course the
[3:31:18]
administrations priorities with
[3:31:20]
some of the recommendations and
[3:31:22]
honestly I could not think more
[3:31:24]
highly of you after this strip
[3:31:26]
has concluded so thank you for
[3:31:28]
being honest, being balanced
[3:31:32]
and neutral in your work.
[3:31:34]
I appreciate you and of course
[3:31:36]
your entire team, to the
[3:31:37]
mayor's point all the staff
[3:31:39]
that worked on this including
[3:31:40]
staff at the office of the
[3:31:42]
chair and the bcc that was
[3:31:44]
involved from thea to jasmine
[3:31:46]
to christina and I know I'm
[3:31:47]
missing a few but thank you all
[3:31:49]
that played a role in this.
[3:32:03]
These recommendations will help
[3:32:05]
create clear timelines, reduce
[3:32:07]
unnecessary delays and
[3:32:09]
bureaucracy, increase
[3:32:10]
transparency and
[3:32:11]
accountability, make the
[3:32:13]
process easier and more
[3:32:14]
predictable for businesses,
[3:32:16]
make it easier for businesses
[3:32:18]
to do business with miami-dade
[3:32:20]
county and at the same time I
[3:32:22]
have heard as mentioned
[3:32:23]
directly from the small
[3:32:25]
business community I've spoken
[3:32:27]
to them prior to today's
[3:32:29]
meeting and received several
[3:32:30]
calls and emails and heard them
[3:32:32]
come up to the podium so as I
[3:32:33]
said I will be removing from 5f
[3:32:35]
those three numbers that sbe's.
[3:32:37]
i want to bring that back once
[3:32:39]
we can connect with them and
[3:32:40]
engage some of the strip
[3:32:42]
committee members to assist
[3:32:44]
with that and reengage on that
[3:32:45]
but I want to make sure we
[3:32:47]
finalize a complete package of
[3:32:55]
procurement reform.
[3:32:57]
I've always talked about this,
[3:32:59]
many of us say this, something
[3:33:00]
you here often but small
[3:33:02]
businesses are the backbone of
[3:33:03]
our community and I believe
[3:33:05]
that as a small business owner
[3:33:07]
myself so the last thing I want
[3:33:09]
to do is change anything in the
[3:33:11]
item that has any unintended
[3:33:12]
consequences so we will
[3:33:14]
continue working on it but I
[3:33:16]
want to make sure we pass the
[3:33:17]
stuff that does not affect it
[3:33:19]
because we can get to work
[3:33:21]
right away, save time right
[3:33:22]
away and cut down on the
[3:33:24]
timeline and I.E. Start saving
[3:33:26]
taxpayer dollars right away.
[3:33:28]
Our reforms should never
[3:33:30]
unintentionally create barriers
[3:33:32]
that make it harder for small
[3:33:33]
businesses to succeed and
[3:33:35]
that's what I want to work on
[3:33:36]
it carefully.
[3:33:38]
These recommendations are an
[3:33:40]
important first step towards a
[3:33:42]
clear and more user-friendly
[3:33:43]
procurement manual, one that
[3:33:48]
provides better guidance, make
[3:33:49]
those easier to understand and
[3:33:51]
gives business greater clarity
[3:33:53]
about working with the county.
[3:33:54]
This is about more than
[3:33:56]
changing a process on paper,
[3:33:58]
it's about saving time reducing
[3:34:00]
bureaucracy increasing
[3:34:02]
accountability and making
[3:34:03]
miami-dade county easier to do
[3:34:05]
business with you and I look
[3:34:06]
forward to work with my
[3:34:08]
colleagues and share the next
[3:34:09]
steps in the months ahead.
[3:34:11]
with that I'd like to call up
[3:34:13]
first CHAIRWOMAN Diana mendez
[3:34:14]
to share a few remarks about
[3:34:16]
the task force and its final
[3:34:18]
report and if you wanted to be
[3:34:20]
recognized of course we can
[3:34:22]
recognize you as well.
[3:34:23]
MADAM CHAIRWOMAN collects good
[3:34:26]
morning commissioners, diana
[3:34:27]
mendez at the government
[3:34:29]
contracts group and for the
[3:34:33]
past year I've had the honor of
[3:34:35]
chairing the special task force
[3:34:37]
to reduce inefficiencies in
[3:34:38]
procurement and also I'm part
[3:34:42]
of the association model
[3:34:45]
procurement revision so both
[3:34:46]
projects have been very
[3:34:47]
important for me the past year,
[3:34:49]
bringing knowledge from the
[3:34:54]
nation to miami-dade county and
[3:34:55]
likewise bringing the
[3:34:57]
experience of miami-dade county
[3:35:05]
to the water procurement
[3:35:05]
community.
[3:35:07]
So following the mandate given
[3:35:14]
to us by this board, and the
[3:35:16]
resolution that of course was
[3:35:18]
sponsored by CHAIRMAN Anthony
[3:35:20]
rodriguez, for about a year the
[3:35:22]
task force on average twice a
[3:35:24]
month to learn from each other,
[3:35:26]
collaborate from each other and
[3:35:27]
of course from staff to
[3:35:29]
recommend changes to the
[3:35:31]
counties procurement process
[3:35:33]
that enhanced the efficiency
[3:35:39]
without sacrificing the
[3:35:41]
fairness and transparency which
[3:35:42]
is the ultimate goal of any
[3:35:44]
public procurement framework.
[3:35:46]
That requires as the chair
[3:35:47]
mentioned a lot of balance.
[3:35:55]
As you can see from the task
[3:35:56]
force members who are here
[3:35:58]
today, our task force members
[3:36:00]
come from many different
[3:36:00]
industries.
[3:36:02]
We have members that came from
[3:36:05]
the development industry,
[3:36:07]
procurement attorneys with
[3:36:09]
decades of experience in
[3:36:12]
procurement, consultants and of
[3:36:13]
course members of the
[3:36:15]
architects and engineering
[3:36:16]
community, some of which have
[3:36:18]
grown from being small
[3:36:19]
businesses to large businesses
[3:36:20]
today.
[3:36:22]
And while we had many different
[3:36:23]
views and a lot of disagreement
[3:36:25]
there is something I know we
[3:36:27]
all share and that is an
[3:36:28]
appreciation for the importance
[3:36:30]
that procurement has in
[3:36:32]
everything our county does.
[3:36:39]
From staff to industry we all
[3:36:40]
understand how important that
[3:36:42]
is and for that reason we are
[3:36:44]
very thankful to you CHAIRMAN
[3:36:46]
Rodriguez for creating this
[3:36:50]
initiative, to mayor cava for
[3:36:52]
sharing all the resources you
[3:36:54]
are able to give us, the
[3:36:55]
knowledge that staff was able
[3:36:57]
to provide us, director namita
[3:36:59]
and staff were there each way
[3:37:02]
of the process and their
[3:37:04]
dedication and concern for
[3:37:05]
improving the county
[3:37:30]
procurement process was visible
[3:37:32]
and its visible not only
[3:37:33]
through all the accolades that
[3:37:35]
are procurement department
[3:37:37]
receives from national
[3:37:38]
organizations but it was
[3:37:40]
visible to us throughout this
[3:37:41]
procurement even in times when
[3:37:42]
we disagreed.
[3:37:44]
The recommendations you will
[3:37:46]
find in our report, many of
[3:37:47]
which were included in the
[3:37:49]
items sponsored by the chair
[3:37:51]
were the result of a careful
[3:37:52]
examination of each phase of
[3:37:54]
the procurement process.
[3:37:56]
That means that we studied
[3:37:58]
issues that go beyond
[3:37:59]
architectural engineers items
[3:38:01]
or small businesses and we had
[3:38:03]
really went from each, we
[3:38:04]
studied each part of the
[3:38:05]
procurement process.
[3:38:07]
We analyzed how this focus
[3:38:09]
develops, that's a part that
[3:38:10]
sometimes is not as visible but
[3:38:13]
it's one of the important parts
[3:38:14]
because it's the foundation of
[3:38:16]
the whole procurement.
[3:38:17]
So we studied the scope,
[3:38:19]
studied the evaluations
[3:38:20]
process, what improvements we
[3:38:22]
can make all the way through
[3:38:24]
how we look at the issues that
[3:38:25]
came up through at issues that
[3:38:27]
came up in procurement as well
[3:38:29]
as improvements we can make to
[3:38:31]
the award process and beyond
[3:38:34]
which is the performance of
[3:38:38]
vendors and contractors during
[3:38:43]
their contract years with the
[3:38:44]
county.
[3:38:46]
So with that we hope you will
[3:38:47]
find these recommendations
[3:38:52]
useful and I'm happy to answer
[3:38:54]
any questions any of the
[3:38:56]
commissioners MAY have about
[3:38:57]
this process, not an mayor
[3:39:01]
anyone please use us as a
[3:39:02]
resource and we are happy to
[3:39:04]
provide our knowledge and
[3:39:06]
resource, thank you.
[3:39:08]
>> I alluded to it earlier but
[3:39:14]
I will reiterate all the
[3:39:22]
members here from strikeforce
[3:39:23]
are included in this comment
[3:39:25]
and some not here as well but
[3:39:27]
one of my biggest fears that
[3:39:28]
want to make sure my team kept
[3:39:37]
tabs on is that at no time many
[3:39:39]
of the strip committee members
[3:39:41]
would put their personal
[3:39:42]
interests before that of the
[3:39:44]
county and I will tell you not
[3:39:48]
just because they've told me,
[3:39:50]
because of hearsay but I've
[3:39:52]
seen it first hand in the item
[3:39:52]
that's in here.
[3:39:54]
But all these committee members
[3:39:56]
and the vast majority of them
[3:39:58]
supported recommendations out
[3:40:07]
of strip that were unfavorable
[3:40:09]
to their organizations.
[3:40:11]
But they all agreed it was the
[3:40:13]
right thing to do for the
[3:40:14]
county as a whole so I thank
[3:40:17]
you and I think everyone has as
[3:40:18]
much faith in you all as
[3:40:20]
perhaps we did over here and
[3:40:21]
those that were nominated, some
[3:40:23]
of you but you guys did an
[3:40:25]
excellent job so thank you for
[3:40:26]
doing that twice a month and
[3:40:33]
next time well spent on what's
[3:40:34]
been an important issue so
[3:40:36]
thank you MADAM CHAIRMAN.
[3:40:43]
>> thank you to you for taking
[3:40:44]
on this ambitious task,
[3:40:45]
certainly something I will be
[3:40:47]
for the benefit of not only our
[3:40:48]
administration, the
[3:40:55]
commissioners and the public in
[3:40:56]
facilitating the process.
[3:40:58]
As you think the members to
[3:41:00]
acknowledge it was a tremendous
[3:41:02]
amount of work, they took it on
[3:41:03]
diligently, our staffs
[3:41:05]
expertise very critical to the
[3:41:07]
process and especially to the
[3:41:08]
CHAIRWOMAN.
[3:41:24]
Facilitated with grace and
[3:41:24]
great skill.
[3:41:26]
To get to the finish line.
[3:41:28]
I want to thank you as well for
[3:41:30]
acknowledging some of the items
[3:41:32]
that need to be considered
[3:41:32]
further.
[3:41:33]
I do want to also
[3:41:35]
acknowledge some of the items
[3:41:36]
were already underway
[3:41:38]
administratively through our
[3:41:39]
staffs efforts and the staff is
[3:41:41]
eager to proceed to turn all
[3:41:42]
these into a single volume if
[3:41:44]
you will that will make it easy
[3:41:46]
leave, readily accessible to
[3:41:48]
everyone to understand the
[3:41:50]
myriad rules that we do have.
[3:41:52]
Overall this will save us time,
[3:41:53]
save us money and lead to
[3:41:55]
better outcomes so thank you
[3:41:59]
very much MR. Chair.
[3:42:01]
>>chair: I guess two or three
[3:42:03]
members bifurcated items but
[3:42:05]
start I'll entertain a motion
[3:42:06]
on the, all the items.
[3:42:13]
>> I move 5 feet through 5h.
[3:42:15]
And its substitute in the
[3:42:18]
removal of 5f, 910 and 11.
[3:42:20]
>>chair: motion, second by
[3:42:29]
commissioner orbis.
[3:42:30]
Commissioner, I'm going to go
[3:42:31]
to you last.
[3:42:33]
Happy to go first but I don't
[3:42:34]
want you to jump back in later,
[3:42:35]
it's your decision.
[3:42:38]
I want to start with you then,
[3:42:39]
commissioner lopez.
[3:42:41]
>> I want to thank you first of
[3:42:42]
all for hearing some of the
[3:42:43]
concerns, certainly this
[3:42:45]
committee did an amazing job
[3:42:49]
and it's undertaking anything
[3:42:51]
like this isn't always fixed
[3:43:07]
one time and I love that you're
[3:43:08]
going to continue to work
[3:43:10]
particularly with my small
[3:43:11]
businesses and in district 5
[3:43:13]
small businesses are not only
[3:43:15]
the foundation but I profiled
[3:43:16]
them every week.
[3:43:17]
I tried to find a small
[3:43:19]
business because government
[3:43:21]
shouldn't be an event to small
[3:43:23]
businesses, it should be a
[3:43:25]
motivating small businesses not
[3:43:27]
only to begin but to grow.
[3:43:28]
I want to thank you for the
[3:43:30]
removal of nine, 10, 11, 33,
[3:43:31]
3435 and 37, great job that
[3:43:33]
those are things that I have a
[3:43:35]
lot of concerns about and I
[3:43:36]
want to thank you for your
[3:43:44]
leadership on that but I do
[3:43:46]
want my small businesses to
[3:43:47]
know I will continue to work
[3:43:49]
with them in this commission
[3:43:51]
because it's the one thing I
[3:43:53]
want to do and have emphasized
[3:43:55]
since I became commissioner.
[3:43:57]
my support for small businesses
[3:43:58]
is a high priority in district
[3:44:00]
5 so I'm looking forward to
[3:44:02]
continuing to work with you but
[3:44:03]
this is the start of many good
[3:44:05]
things to come so thank you.
[3:44:07]
>>chair: on this side,
[3:44:09]
commissioner.
[3:44:11]
>>commissioner gilbert: I guess
[3:44:12]
15h could we delete the
[3:44:13]
requirement to drop the lowest
[3:44:16]
selection committee score from
[3:44:17]
procurement.
[3:44:18]
Because that's one of the
[3:44:20]
things that in case you're
[3:44:20]
with.
[3:44:22]
>>chair: if the director could
[3:44:22]
come up.
[3:44:24]
Can you address.
[3:44:26]
>> through the chair,
[3:44:28]
commissioner the yes, the
[3:44:30]
requirement to draw the low
[3:44:49]
score for architecture
[3:44:51]
engineering solicitations is no
[3:44:53]
longer the requirement so we
[3:44:54]
won't be dropping if this
[3:44:56]
passes, the reason being is as
[3:44:58]
a part of the efficiency we are
[3:44:59]
reducing the number of members
[3:45:01]
from 5 to 3. Up to $20 million
[3:45:03]
so if you drop the scores the
[3:45:04]
lowest there would be only two
[3:45:06]
people whose scores would be
[3:45:07]
counted.
[3:45:08]
And still we are going to do
[3:45:10]
the variation study of if the
[3:45:11]
scores deviate by 30% people
[3:45:13]
have to justify on the record.
[3:45:15]
So I think the safeguards are
[3:45:17]
in place to not to do that.
[3:45:19]
>>commissioner gilbert: you
[3:45:20]
said this but the answer is no
[3:45:22]
it has not been deleted.
[3:45:23]
So removal from the item.
[3:45:27]
I have an issue with that, plus
[3:45:29]
it's one of the things I think
[3:45:31]
we put in recently.
[3:45:33]
Because previously those
[3:45:37]
procurements, sometimes they
[3:45:38]
are extraordinary outliers.
[3:45:40]
not to say that anyone would do
[3:45:43]
it on purpose.
[3:45:45]
But sometimes people are taking
[3:45:47]
a score on purpose so there's a
[3:45:48]
reason we put that in.
[3:45:51]
So I wouldn't want to
[3:45:52]
disapprove of that and also on
[3:45:54]
the sunset small business
[3:45:59]
enterprise advisory board I'll
[3:46:01]
keep looking at that later but
[3:46:03]
it's my understanding that's
[3:46:05]
the board that sets the goals.
[3:46:07]
>> that's the board that sets
[3:46:09]
periodically, they just look at
[3:46:11]
how small businesses are doing,
[3:46:13]
what can they do differently to
[3:46:15]
give suggestions and ideas.
[3:46:17]
>>commissioner gilbert: who
[3:46:19]
would do that if they didn't do
[3:46:21]
it.
[3:46:22]
>> the german has withdrawn
[3:46:24]
that requirement but absent
[3:46:26]
that what we committed was we
[3:46:29]
will still need with industry
[3:46:30]
leaders, whoever does this
[3:46:32]
every month, every two months,
[3:46:35]
one meeting for any, one
[3:46:37]
meeting for construction to get
[3:46:39]
their ideas and feedback and
[3:46:40]
continue to work
[3:46:42]
collaboratively to implement
[3:46:43]
those.
[3:46:44]
>>commissioner gilbert: I'm
[3:46:46]
fine with that and I appreciate
[3:46:48]
you all being willing to meet
[3:46:49]
the reason why we have systems
[3:46:51]
and a lot of things.
[3:46:53]
That's not required with the
[3:46:56]
benevolence of administration.
[3:46:58]
So I would think that it's kind
[3:47:02]
of difficult to value our small
[3:47:03]
businesses that we actually
[3:47:09]
talk to them and they meet so I
[3:47:11]
think those are challenging
[3:47:12]
things to say together but
[3:47:15]
those are my observations MR.
[3:47:15]
CHAIRMAN.
[3:47:17]
I understand reducing the
[3:47:18]
amount of people.
[3:47:20]
I don't know reducing them is
[3:47:22]
the right move either but to
[3:47:24]
the extent, having been here
[3:47:31]
for a while you can see people
[3:47:33]
with scores life let's give
[3:47:34]
examples of 80, 80, 21.
[3:47:38]
That's just kind of crazy.
[3:47:41]
So that's why we put that in
[3:47:43]
there so I think that's
[3:47:45]
probably something that needs
[3:47:46]
to be addressed.
[3:47:49]
>>chair: when we went over
[3:47:53]
something that's something I
[3:47:54]
addressed.
[3:47:55]
The reason we added that in I
[3:48:00]
do understand it is reducing
[3:48:03]
from five members to three so
[3:48:07]
it's two numbers and that's why
[3:48:08]
they wanted to account for 3 so
[3:48:13]
in theory I agree with dropping
[3:48:17]
the last or lowest score but
[3:48:22]
bringing it down to three
[3:48:23]
members it's challenging to
[3:48:26]
drop one of them.
[3:48:28]
>>commissioner gilbert: what if
[3:48:32]
you have an outlier?
[3:48:39]
>> the current safeguard is we
[3:48:40]
do the average scores and if
[3:48:43]
somebody scores 33% or more
[3:48:44]
deviated from the average score
[3:48:45]
we ask that committee member to
[3:48:54]
either explain what the
[3:48:55]
rationale is and have a
[3:48:57]
discussion and sometimes they
[3:48:58]
MAY realize I made a mistake or
[3:49:02]
MAY say we keep it but the
[3:49:04]
deviation analysis is done for
[3:49:12]
all committee members.
[3:49:13]
>>commissioner gilbert: if
[3:49:15]
that's the option then I'd
[3:49:17]
rather stay with five members
[3:49:18]
because were saying if there is
[3:49:21]
an outlier we ask them about it
[3:49:22]
and they can't explain it, they
[3:49:27]
can stick to that score.
[3:49:29]
But it takes a lot to submit
[3:49:30]
these proposals.
[3:49:32]
So the reason why it's in
[3:49:36]
their, like you don't want
[3:49:41]
those scores that are
[3:49:42]
significantly below to be
[3:49:45]
counted because that one person
[3:49:52]
can tank somebody's entire
[3:49:53]
submittal.
[3:49:54]
And the reason why it exists is
[3:49:56]
because we saw it happening.
[3:50:04]
That's why that was in there.
[3:50:06]
>>commissioner cohen higgins:
[3:50:07]
MADAME CHAIRWOMAN, diana.
[3:50:12]
I know the specific portion
[3:50:21]
past 8 to 0. Can you walk us
[3:50:22]
through why we're we were
[3:50:28]
reducing it and the second
[3:50:29]
piece was reduced but the
[3:50:31]
reason for the objection is
[3:50:32]
it's so hard to get.
[3:50:35]
>> that's right MR. Chair.
[3:50:47]
It takes a lot to assemble an
[3:50:49]
evaluation committee.
[3:50:50]
Sometimes it's the little
[3:50:52]
procedural things nobody thinks
[3:50:54]
of that takes so much time but
[3:50:56]
they do and I see it all the
[3:50:57]
time, making public records
[3:50:59]
request and it's trying to
[3:51:01]
schedule one meeting because
[3:51:02]
everything of course needs to
[3:51:04]
be done under the sunshine so
[3:51:06]
we selected it based on that
[3:51:08]
certain thresholds for larger
[3:51:10]
contracts but you still have
[3:51:13]
the five-member committee, for
[3:51:15]
smaller contracts we concluded
[3:51:16]
that a three panel committee
[3:51:17]
would suffice.
[3:51:22]
But that entailed MR. Chair as
[3:51:25]
you mentioned we couldn't drop
[3:51:27]
the lowest score at that point
[3:51:37]
because then at that point the
[3:51:39]
selected proposer would be
[3:51:40]
selected based on the scores of
[3:51:42]
only 2 evaluation committee
[3:51:44]
members which defeats the whole
[3:51:46]
purpose of having one third
[3:51:48]
evaluation committee member
[3:51:48]
there.
[3:51:50]
>>chair: are we only if it's if
[3:51:52]
it's one there for the five as
[3:51:52]
well?
[3:51:57]
And probably namita should stay
[3:51:59]
at one podium, this is a big
[3:52:01]
package so we're going to have
[3:52:04]
a lot of questions.
[3:52:06]
>> the requirement is getting
[3:52:08]
eliminated from all
[3:52:09]
procurements.
[3:52:18]
Regardless of the threshold.
[3:52:20]
>>chair: would you feel
[3:52:21]
comfortable to remove it from
[3:52:24]
the smaller procurements, add
[3:52:25]
it back to the small
[3:52:27]
procurements but keep it off
[3:52:28]
from the bigger ones and have
[3:52:32]
five numbers.
[3:52:34]
>>commissioner gilbert: I was
[3:52:35]
interested in what you said
[3:52:37]
because you said we could
[3:52:38]
remove it, you'd be dropping
[3:52:40]
the third one and you couldn't
[3:52:42]
just have it based on the 2 but
[3:52:43]
even in that scenario if it
[3:52:45]
were larger you'd be dropping
[3:52:47]
the 50 it would still be
[3:52:48]
happening just on 4, still an
[3:52:50]
average of those scores so that
[3:52:52]
in and of itself it was a fake
[3:52:54]
company that it was some
[3:52:56]
unfairness, it really didn't
[3:52:57]
actually change anything.
[3:52:59]
It's still significant and let
[3:53:01]
me add those small contracts
[3:53:03]
small procurements are really
[3:53:04]
big to small businesses.
[3:53:08]
It's small in comparison to our
[3:53:11]
multibillion-dollar budget.
[3:53:12]
But not to them.
[3:53:18]
That would make me more
[3:53:18]
comfortable.
[3:53:20]
I think probably I'm okay with
[3:53:22]
that average, dropping it and
[3:53:31]
taking the average of 2.
[3:53:33]
I'm okay with that because what
[3:53:34]
we're saying is this person was
[3:53:36]
way out of line and in some
[3:53:37]
instances they dropped the
[3:53:38]
highest and the lowest.
[3:53:40]
In some instances that's what
[3:53:56]
happens in procurement, you
[3:53:58]
require more people so that's
[3:53:59]
different.
[3:54:00]
I understand the scheduling,
[3:54:02]
also if what we're saying is we
[3:54:04]
make this accommodation because
[3:54:06]
it difficult to get people in
[3:54:08]
place and together I understand
[3:54:09]
that.
[3:54:10]
Let me suggest to the
[3:54:12]
ministration since that time
[3:54:13]
these are the times you would
[3:54:14]
do a procurement.
[3:54:16]
You block these times off, they
[3:54:17]
worked here for us.
[3:54:19]
Show up, it's part of your job.
[3:54:21]
This is where you report to
[3:54:21]
them.
[3:54:23]
This is where you report, this
[3:54:24]
is what you do today.
[3:54:26]
That's not that complicated.
[3:54:27]
I did at miami gardens.
[3:54:29]
If you're going to be here
[3:54:30]
you're going to do this and
[3:54:32]
whatever your normal duty is
[3:54:33]
this is your normal duty today
[3:54:35]
but to rewrite the system based
[3:54:37]
on the calendar availability
[3:54:39]
it's almost something we should
[3:54:40]
be hesitant to admit in public.
[3:54:48]
>>chair: can't we amend, it's a
[3:54:50]
lot more than just their
[3:54:51]
calendar.
[3:54:56]
It's qualifications, and then
[3:54:58]
that adds time to procurement
[3:54:59]
so that's how we are able to
[3:55:01]
reduce, that MAY not be the 60%
[3:55:04]
reducing but that's 5%.
[3:55:06]
It all adds up, a lot of little
[3:55:08]
things we're changing at up to
[3:55:11]
the 60% time reduction.
[3:55:13]
So that's why we need to bring
[3:55:16]
it down to the three member
[3:55:17]
evaluation committee.
[3:55:22]
Small procurement and I agree,
[3:55:24]
they are big procurements but
[3:55:25]
smaller in the grand scheme of
[3:55:26]
all the contracts.
[3:55:32]
So I agree with both sides.
[3:55:33]
It's a question of can we maybe
[3:55:38]
drop it to commissioner
[3:55:40]
gilbert's point, drop it if
[3:55:44]
it's only that 33% that we
[3:55:44]
discussed.
[3:55:48]
>> we could do that.
[3:55:50]
>> instead of having them
[3:55:51]
explain, just drop it at least
[3:55:56]
if it goes over 33.
[3:55:57]
>> if your score is beyond the
[3:56:00]
33% deviation, yes that could
[3:56:09]
be a recommendation.
[3:56:10]
And that would be standard
[3:56:12]
practice across all
[3:56:13]
procurements I guess,
[3:56:18]
regardless of the dollar value.
[3:56:20]
>>commissioner gilbert: that is
[3:56:22]
substantially better and I want
[3:56:23]
us to remember we are looking
[3:56:25]
at categories here and some
[3:56:27]
things like what I've noticed
[3:56:28]
about one of our procurements
[3:56:30]
right now is there shouldn't be
[3:56:33]
that type of deviation in
[3:56:34]
certain categories so for
[3:56:36]
instance if you have the price
[3:56:36]
is a category.
[3:56:37]
The cost is a category.
[3:56:43]
So if you are the cheapest then
[3:56:45]
you get all the points, if you
[3:56:47]
are the next cheapest you get
[3:56:48]
less points but you shouldn't
[3:56:52]
have people getting the same
[3:56:53]
amount of points for instance
[3:56:55]
for cost because the other
[3:56:59]
stuff is also a category like
[3:57:00]
experience and quality, all
[3:57:02]
that stuff is also a category
[3:57:04]
but if you can factor all those
[3:57:06]
things into whether this costs
[3:57:07]
more because we think it's
[3:57:09]
better than the other
[3:57:11]
categories you're counting that
[3:57:11]
twice.
[3:57:15]
So the fact that there is that
[3:57:17]
type of deviation, I say that
[3:57:19]
to mean it's relative to where
[3:57:28]
the points deviated.
[3:57:30]
Because some things are just
[3:57:30]
numbers.
[3:57:32]
It's just it should be if you
[3:57:53]
charge $100 and think you are
[3:57:55]
confident in submittal and you
[3:57:56]
charge $100 and that's the
[3:57:58]
cheapest price and you get all
[3:58:00]
those points the next person
[3:58:01]
charges $105.
[3:58:02]
Those things can be
[3:58:04]
standardized, there should be
[3:58:04]
deviation.
[3:58:06]
Those are things we should look
[3:58:06]
at.
[3:58:08]
As for 33% how did you come up
[3:58:10]
with that number, I would be
[3:58:11]
substantially more comfortable
[3:58:12]
with 25%.
[3:58:14]
I'm thinking I break everything
[3:58:16]
into dollars because I don't
[3:58:17]
have a lot of money so 75,
[3:58:18]
that's 25, 50 $75.
[3:58:20]
I'm saying if something is on
[3:58:21]
dollar and someone else is
[3:58:23]
saying that it's 45, 55, 65
[3:58:23]
$0.70 under.
[3:58:27]
Those deviations are way out of
[3:58:28]
range.
[3:58:29]
And so I just want to be
[3:58:30]
mindful because I know what's
[3:58:32]
going to happen and GOD willing
[3:58:36]
I won't be here when it
[3:58:36]
happens.
[3:58:38]
But there's going to be a small
[3:58:41]
business that's harmed by this
[3:58:41]
process.
[3:58:43]
And they're going to come here
[3:58:45]
and complain about these bids
[3:58:47]
and we're going to feel very
[3:58:49]
sympathetic because it's going
[3:58:50]
to affect their business and
[3:58:52]
it's a decision we are making
[3:58:57]
right now.
[3:58:58]
This decision will live on
[3:59:00]
beyond this moment, it will be
[3:59:02]
something written in paper but
[3:59:04]
something written in somebody's
[3:59:05]
bank account.
[3:59:07]
Or their mortgage payment.
[3:59:09]
And it's going to exist in
[3:59:10]
different ways so I would be
[3:59:14]
more comfortable with 25%.
[3:59:16]
>>chair: I'm good with doing
[3:59:17]
that, for the three members you
[3:59:19]
keep it for the three unless
[3:59:24]
it's over, you're suggesting
[3:59:25]
25% is your reason.
[3:59:31]
so the committee claps to
[3:59:32]
clarify 20% over and below is
[3:59:47]
that the intention.
[3:59:49]
>> I have to check back, I
[3:59:51]
think it's low scores but
[3:59:52]
deviation could be offered
[3:59:54]
lower usually is on the lower
[3:59:56]
side but I have to check back.
[3:59:57]
>> if it's over 25% deviation
[3:59:58]
and is not counted.
[4:00:01]
Go ahead.
[4:00:02]
>> to clarify this was an
[4:00:04]
amendment to recommendation 16
[4:00:07]
so what I have down here is
[4:00:09]
keep eliminating dropping low
[4:00:11]
scores except if the lowest
[4:00:16]
score deviates 25% or more
[4:00:19]
average score for all committee
[4:00:19]
members.
[4:00:21]
That's the recommendation
[4:00:30]
currently over 65, then that we
[4:00:31]
are changing the recommendation
[4:00:33]
to keep and drop the lowest
[4:00:35]
score except the score deviates
[4:00:36]
25% or more.
[4:00:39]
>>chair: senator garcia.
[4:00:40]
>>senator garcia: thank you MR.
[4:00:44]
Chair. And by the way I
[4:00:47]
appreciate what you're doing
[4:00:47]
here.
[4:00:49]
I'm just throwing that out to
[4:00:51]
thank you for bringing up some
[4:00:53]
of those and resolving some of
[4:00:59]
those issues that are
[4:01:00]
outstanding that will go a long
[4:01:02]
way to help our small
[4:01:03]
businesses, I have one more
[4:01:05]
question if I MAY and it has to
[4:01:06]
do with the startup businesses.
[4:01:14]
E have moved, we went from,
[4:01:20]
we should not have a
[4:01:22]
requirement on timing staff
[4:01:23]
members for startup businesses.
[4:01:27]
When you have started
[4:01:29]
businesses especially since we
[4:01:31]
talked about engineering and
[4:01:32]
architecture firms, that's
[4:01:34]
usually one employee, is there
[4:01:35]
a rationale for that, can we
[4:01:37]
look into that as well because
[4:01:39]
when we are the neck right now
[4:01:41]
of startups.
[4:01:43]
Inviting private investors to
[4:01:46]
come up here and usually most
[4:01:52]
of these startups are 1 or two
[4:01:57]
employees, help me with that
[4:01:58]
rationale.
[4:01:59]
>> through the chair, senator
[4:02:01]
we did not change any
[4:02:05]
requirements to be a small
[4:02:06]
business from one employee or
[4:02:08]
two employees are three
[4:02:09]
employees, there is no
[4:02:09]
requirement.
[4:02:11]
Like you have to have three
[4:02:29]
employees to certify a small
[4:02:30]
business.
[4:02:31]
The three employee requirement
[4:02:34]
has been the long-standing
[4:02:35]
policy to get local preference.
[4:02:37]
And if you want to qualify for
[4:02:39]
local preference you have to
[4:02:41]
have three employees, that was
[4:02:42]
the policy adopted eight or 10
[4:02:44]
years ago by the board but if
[4:02:46]
you're a small business you
[4:02:47]
don't have to do that either.
[4:02:50]
You need three employees to be
[4:02:51]
local preference so that
[4:02:53]
requirement has not changed.
[4:02:55]
>>chair: I am becoming more
[4:02:56]
confused right now so for,
[4:02:58]
let's talk about local
[4:02:59]
preference.
[4:03:00]
The definition of the small
[4:03:01]
business is what?
[4:03:03]
>> there is a dollar threshold
[4:03:13]
for your business income, gross
[4:03:15]
income and you don't need
[4:03:15]
employees.
[4:03:17]
There is a confusion in
[4:03:19]
industry, their thinking we are
[4:03:20]
changing the requirement to be
[4:03:21]
a small business.
[4:03:23]
We did not so the requirement
[4:03:25]
stays as is, you can have one
[4:03:27]
employee or your owner
[4:03:28]
yourself.
[4:03:29]
>>senator garcia: that's for
[4:03:31]
the small business and now for
[4:03:33]
local preference, local
[4:03:34]
preference what is it?
[4:03:36]
Claps to qualify for local
[4:03:37]
preference you have to have a
[4:03:39]
business tax receipt issued by
[4:03:41]
miami-dade counties tax
[4:03:42]
collector's office and you have
[4:03:44]
to have three employees.
[4:03:46]
If you are a small business
[4:03:48]
already you don't need that
[4:03:49]
three employees.
[4:03:50]
>>senator garcia: you can
[4:03:52]
qualify as a small business and
[4:03:52]
local.
[4:03:54]
That's fair, I think that
[4:03:56]
addresses my concerns and I'm
[4:03:57]
fairly comfortable.
[4:03:57]
Hank you
[4:03:59]
for what you are doing.
[4:04:03]
>>chair: commissioner steinberg
[4:04:05]
>>commissioner steinberg:
[4:04:07]
clarification on the local
[4:04:09]
preference, generally speaking
[4:04:10]
we have a core eligibility
[4:04:13]
issue and we know one of them
[4:04:16]
is supporting local jobs, so
[4:04:22]
what are we doing to advance
[4:04:23]
belief because we have two
[4:04:25]
different versions of this
[4:04:26]
relief, can you please give me
[4:04:37]
some clarification.
[4:04:39]
Claps to qualify for local
[4:04:40]
preference or enhance
[4:04:42]
encouraging business with the
[4:04:47]
local company?
[4:04:49]
Commissioner, I think in 2016,
[4:04:51]
20 17th this board or the prior
[4:04:52]
board adopted changes to the
[4:04:54]
local preference program which
[4:04:56]
changed the requirement to have
[4:04:58]
one employee to a three
[4:04:59]
employees you have to have a
[4:05:01]
local business tax receipt and
[4:05:03]
contribute to the local economy
[4:05:05]
in miami-dade by either renting
[4:05:07]
or by renting office space so
[4:05:14]
you have to have local
[4:05:15]
preference but in addition to
[4:05:17]
that there's locally
[4:05:19]
headquartered programs where if
[4:05:20]
you are nerve center business
[4:05:22]
is in miami-dade county then
[4:05:24]
you also get additional
[4:05:25]
preference whether regardless
[4:05:27]
of the type of procurement and
[4:05:29]
in certain architecture
[4:05:31]
engineering procurements there
[4:05:32]
are more, if you subcontract
[4:05:34]
with a locally headquartered
[4:05:36]
firm you are eligible for more
[4:05:38]
points as a scoring criteria
[4:05:39]
and in addition we have
[4:05:40]
invested under the mayor a lot
[4:05:46]
of resources in creating
[4:05:48]
training programs through our
[4:05:49]
vendor academy we launched
[4:05:51]
under the mayor in 2023 to give
[4:05:53]
local companies and small
[4:05:54]
companies resources they need
[4:05:56]
to do business with miami-dade
[4:05:58]
county other it's we do
[4:05:59]
registration boot camps,
[4:06:07]
walking in through different
[4:06:09]
classes, free classes.
[4:06:10]
English, spanish and creole,
[4:06:12]
we've created a youtube
[4:06:13]
training program so they can
[4:06:15]
watch their own time and we
[4:06:17]
have opened offices in the
[4:06:17]
south.
[4:06:19]
We go there and also cater to
[4:06:21]
the businesses himself so there
[4:06:22]
are efforts we are coming up
[4:06:24]
with and recently we also
[4:06:25]
launched the comprehensive
[4:06:27]
small and local business
[4:06:28]
development program which there
[4:06:30]
are departments in the county
[4:06:32]
have benefits or the they
[4:06:34]
offered to small local
[4:06:35]
companies so we are
[4:06:36]
incorporating that there is a
[4:06:38]
single resource or single
[4:06:40]
document for any small and
[4:06:43]
local company to see what kind
[4:06:45]
of benefits they could get from
[4:06:47]
the county in addition to doing
[4:06:49]
business with the county.
[4:06:51]
>>chair: vice chair, did you
[4:07:07]
have anything?
[4:07:09]
>>vice chair mcghee: let me say
[4:07:10]
to both of you thank you so
[4:07:11]
much.
[4:07:12]
It's obvious the work that went
[4:07:14]
into this produced a great
[4:07:16]
product where we can hang our
[4:07:18]
hats on it and appreciate the
[4:07:20]
system even more and to the
[4:07:22]
administration thank you for
[4:07:23]
making sure this is something
[4:07:25]
that again would right the
[4:07:26]
ship, get us where we need to
[4:07:28]
be as relates to procurement
[4:07:30]
and thank you for your
[4:07:31]
leadership in pushing us
[4:07:31]
forward.
[4:07:33]
Have a few
[4:07:34]
concerns, I'd like to address
[4:07:36]
but address it technically,
[4:07:38]
each line by line and I would
[4:07:40]
issue some statements and asked
[4:07:42]
for clarity as I make my
[4:07:42]
position.
[4:07:44]
The first thing that strikes me
[4:07:46]
the most is the fact that you
[4:07:47]
all have been working on this
[4:07:49]
for over a year.
[4:07:50]
Meeting twice a month, giving
[4:07:52]
up your time, your quality time
[4:07:54]
with your family and just wing
[4:07:55]
time in.
[4:07:56]
What bothers me the most though
[4:07:58]
is the fact that there were
[4:08:00]
substitutes filed on these
[4:08:01]
items.
[4:08:04]
At the very last minute.
[4:08:11]
And when you look at the
[4:08:12]
substitutes as they work file
[4:08:14]
as it pertains to each one of
[4:08:19]
the items, these are no small
[4:08:20]
items to overlook.
[4:08:22]
It takes time to flesh it out
[4:08:23]
to see how is it going to
[4:08:24]
affect this or that.
[4:08:26]
I would have preferably
[4:08:28]
requested, and I'm I haven't
[4:08:30]
said yet but I think I will, I
[4:08:33]
would prefer to defer these
[4:08:34]
items to give me an opportunity
[4:08:38]
to really meet with
[4:08:39]
stakeholders to see if in fact
[4:08:43]
this is what they had bargained
[4:08:44]
for or they are willing to
[4:08:45]
bargain for.
[4:08:49]
What I heard from those podiums
[4:08:50]
earlier, I didn't hear them say
[4:08:57]
they had a comfort level with
[4:08:58]
the substitutes.
[4:09:00]
What I heard was that they
[4:09:04]
needed more time to review the
[4:09:05]
substitute so they could make
[4:09:07]
an informed decision about the
[4:09:21]
proposed changes that they just
[4:09:22]
received midnight.
[4:09:23]
Including your self.
[4:09:25]
I was prepared to vote one way
[4:09:27]
based on the original waivers
[4:09:29]
because I had it all lined up,
[4:09:29]
we had it.
[4:09:31]
But it just strikes me as odd
[4:09:33]
to receive these substitutes,
[4:09:35]
midnight on something that is
[4:09:37]
so huge that's going to change
[4:09:39]
the trajectory of business and
[4:09:41]
procurement in miami-dade
[4:09:42]
county, it strikes me and
[4:09:45]
forces me to ask the question
[4:09:47]
why not simply the furthest to
[4:09:48]
the next meeting so we can have
[4:09:50]
time to flesh out the issues we
[4:09:52]
heard from that podium.
[4:09:53]
And I'm wondering and asking
[4:09:55]
this question MISS Mendez, is
[4:10:13]
there a reason why we should
[4:10:15]
actually move forward right now
[4:10:17]
as opposed to waiting till the
[4:10:19]
next meeting to give those of
[4:10:20]
us who are entrenched and
[4:10:22]
really supportive of small
[4:10:24]
businesses, is there a reason
[4:10:25]
why we can't wait until the
[4:10:27]
next meeting so we can flesh
[4:10:29]
out these things and meet with
[4:10:30]
the stakeholders, will
[4:10:32]
something got lost in the fray,
[4:10:34]
will there be a cost that we
[4:10:35]
must bear if we were to just
[4:10:37]
simply push this to the next
[4:10:38]
meeting, just asking that one
[4:10:39]
question.
[4:10:41]
>>chair: I think that's for
[4:10:41]
diana.
[4:10:43]
>vice chair mcghee: whoever
[4:10:45]
wants to answer the question
[4:10:46]
but if you want to that would
[4:10:47]
be great.
[4:10:49]
>>chair: you can't wait until
[4:10:50]
next meeting because this is
[4:10:52]
real people's money we are
[4:10:54]
talking about, taxpayers money
[4:10:56]
we are talking about and then
[4:10:57]
the only thing that was removed
[4:10:59]
is those substitutes is a
[4:11:01]
removal of anything pertaining
[4:11:02]
to small business, nothing was
[4:11:04]
changed so the same item about
[4:11:06]
a week ago you have before you
[4:11:07]
today was just removed, nothing
[4:11:09]
was changed.
[4:11:10]
There were no games so you've
[4:11:12]
embedded it's true then you
[4:11:14]
have it all, the numbers called
[4:11:15]
out were just extracted from
[4:11:18]
the items so here we have it,
[4:11:19]
senator garcia often brings
[4:11:21]
that point up in the other
[4:11:23]
items in it makes sense, things
[4:11:24]
are dramatically changed.
[4:11:26]
It was just removed from the
[4:11:28]
item to further elaborate on
[4:11:29]
discussions on what they spoke
[4:11:34]
about at the podium today but I
[4:11:36]
see no reason it cannot wait
[4:11:36]
another month.
[4:11:38]
The reason that it skipped
[4:11:40]
committee is because we are
[4:11:42]
having this discussion amongst
[4:11:43]
the entire board.
[4:11:45]
And I want the entire board to
[4:11:49]
discuss it and there were in
[4:11:50]
excess of 20 to 25 meetings
[4:11:57]
held at any time, they were
[4:11:58]
sunshine meetings at any
[4:12:00]
commissioner could have taken
[4:12:01]
time if they had an interest in
[4:12:03]
showing up and spoken to the
[4:12:12]
committee at that time.
[4:12:14]
>>vice chair mcghee: appreciate
[4:12:16]
my position not to say there
[4:12:18]
was funny business going on
[4:12:19]
behind the scenes or someone at
[4:12:21]
a position that would benefit
[4:12:25]
another person.
[4:12:27]
My position has always been the
[4:12:29]
same and it will be the same,
[4:12:31]
it's really about transparency
[4:12:33]
at this point because at the
[4:12:34]
end of the day we prepared, we
[4:12:36]
were briefed but at the last
[4:12:37]
minute we feel as if things
[4:12:39]
were injected into a
[4:12:40]
conversation and it forced
[4:12:42]
those to come to the podium
[4:12:43]
without adequately being
[4:12:45]
prepared with the new changes
[4:12:46]
so you're asking not you but we
[4:12:48]
are asking individuals who MAY
[4:12:50]
or MAY not be affected to
[4:12:51]
on-the-fly look at this with
[4:12:56]
the lens of you know, whether
[4:12:58]
it's the corridor work or
[4:12:59]
whether it hurts the business
[4:13:01]
or whether or not it moves the
[4:13:05]
agenda forward away it is, I'm
[4:13:06]
simply asking the question if
[4:13:08]
we've already waited a year and
[4:13:12]
to wait an additional 20 days,
[4:13:14]
would it really cost that much
[4:13:16]
money to give comfort to the
[4:13:44]
people who came to the podium
[4:13:46]
who raised the concerns that
[4:13:48]
there MAY be something there
[4:13:49]
that they need to understand
[4:13:51]
and let's be clear, I am an
[4:13:52]
attorney.
[4:13:52]
By trade.
[4:13:54]
That's what I do, I read
[4:13:55]
documents quickly, I get to the
[4:13:57]
point, identify the issues, do
[4:13:59]
the analysis and do the
[4:14:00]
conclusion but we are talking
[4:14:02]
about small business for who
[4:14:03]
are as equally intelligent as
[4:14:05]
we are but they're asking for
[4:14:07]
more time so they can make sure
[4:14:09]
what they're reading is what
[4:14:11]
they're reading because if they
[4:14:12]
have an issue with it and we
[4:14:14]
work for them we are simply
[4:14:16]
saying give them more time to
[4:14:17]
read it, just defer till the
[4:14:21]
next meeting and if that's not
[4:14:21]
something the board wishes to
[4:14:23]
do I'm okay but I want to make
[4:14:25]
sure I put this on the record
[4:14:27]
and I will be voting no on all
[4:14:29]
these items, the ones that have
[4:14:30]
had the substitute applied to
[4:14:32]
it at the very last minute
[4:14:34]
because I do not believe that
[4:14:35]
the good faith I can hang my
[4:14:37]
vote on something that very
[4:14:39]
well MAY screw over the small
[4:14:41]
businesses down the road
[4:14:42]
because this has not been
[4:14:43]
properly invented and I do
[4:14:45]
believe there is a world where
[4:14:47]
small businesses are going to
[4:14:50]
be screwed because we rushed
[4:14:50]
this at the last minute when in
[4:14:52]
fact we could have easily
[4:14:54]
postponed it for one month to
[4:14:55]
give everybody a comfort level
[4:14:57]
so they can meet with folks and
[4:14:59]
get their issues out of the
[4:14:59]
way.
[4:15:00]
So those are my positions on
[4:15:02]
the record MR. CHAIRMAN so is
[4:15:04]
nothing against you, nothing to
[4:15:06]
suggest something funny went
[4:15:08]
behind the scenes, it's simply
[4:15:09]
saying you don't, we don't drop
[4:15:11]
this amount of change at
[4:15:12]
midnight on and tell us it's
[4:15:14]
okay, these are the things we
[4:15:16]
want to remove without knowing
[4:15:18]
whether or not it's going to
[4:15:20]
affect monetarily those small
[4:15:21]
businesses who are the
[4:15:23]
backbones of our community so
[4:15:25]
those are my positions for the
[4:15:26]
record so thank you to the
[4:15:28]
ladies and the administration
[4:15:29]
and to you MR. CHAIRMAN, you
[4:15:31]
did a great job and that's a
[4:15:33]
lot of work that you all did on
[4:15:35]
this project and again I take
[4:15:36]
my hat off to you.
[4:15:37]
>> commissioner.
[4:15:38]
>> thank you MR. Chair, I want
[4:15:40]
to be brief in my remarks and
[4:15:41]
thanking you for your
[4:15:48]
leadership on this.
[4:15:50]
I was running my first campaign
[4:15:52]
and I think the business
[4:15:54]
communities loudest complaint
[4:15:55]
was procurement.
[4:15:57]
We need to get procurement in
[4:16:09]
order in miami dade county and
[4:16:11]
when the ambassador and my
[4:16:13]
friend forever commissioner
[4:16:14]
cabrera was here we took a stab
[4:16:16]
at it and this is an issue
[4:16:18]
we've dealt with for a very
[4:16:19]
long time and I'm very grateful
[4:16:21]
to you MR. Chair and your
[4:16:23]
leadership in putting together
[4:16:25]
such a comprehensive approach.
[4:16:27]
I'm grateful to our
[4:16:28]
administration, if you've not
[4:16:30]
seen namita binder of the
[4:16:32]
procurement ordinances that we
[4:16:33]
have passed as a board that she
[4:16:35]
and her team are required to
[4:16:37]
follow then every procurement
[4:16:39]
it would blow you away.
[4:16:41]
The binder is about this being
[4:16:42]
and I know the task force
[4:16:44]
tackle that and hopefully it
[4:16:45]
will substantially reduce that
[4:16:47]
binder making things more
[4:16:49]
streamlined and efficient and
[4:16:50]
hopefully finding more
[4:16:52]
businesses to do business with
[4:16:53]
miami-dade county and I want to
[4:16:55]
thank the task force members.
[4:16:57]
Meeting twice a month for 12
[4:16:58]
months is not a small ask.
[4:17:00]
I know a number of board
[4:17:02]
members are parents, have young
[4:17:03]
children in school, some lives
[4:17:05]
out of the county so you're not
[4:17:07]
doing this for compensation,
[4:17:09]
you're doing this because you
[4:17:11]
care and I'm grateful for you
[4:17:13]
investing that much time to
[4:17:14]
sit, govern, chair meetings and
[4:17:16]
volunteer your time to get to
[4:17:17]
the point where we are today.
[4:17:19]
t is greatly appreciated so
[4:17:25]
thank you for that and
[4:17:27]
regarding the small business
[4:17:29]
concerns I'm grateful for the
[4:17:30]
efforts made to remove
[4:17:32]
provisions our community said
[4:17:33]
where a concern.
[4:17:34]
That's the fair thing to do and
[4:17:41]
if there is an amended item I
[4:17:43]
look forward to that but this
[4:17:44]
needs to pass today so we can
[4:17:46]
get the ball rolling.
[4:17:47]
Appreciate the savings of
[4:17:49]
dollars are community will pass
[4:17:56]
on to our residents and
[4:17:58]
appreciate the reduction in
[4:17:59]
procurement time, 60% is not a
[4:18:02]
small number so congratulations
[4:18:03]
to all of you and I'm happy to
[4:18:05]
support the item, thank you MR.
[4:18:06]
Chair.
[4:18:08]
>>chair: commissioner milian
[4:18:09]
orbis.
[4:18:10]
>>commissioner milian orbis:
[4:18:12]
thank you MR. Chair. I
[4:18:21]
obviously agree with the task
[4:18:22]
force recommendations.
[4:18:24]
You've worked diligently the
[4:18:26]
past year on hopefully fixing
[4:18:27]
our procurement system.
[4:18:28]
E get
[4:18:29]
so many complaints, one of
[4:18:31]
those we've received as
[4:18:33]
commissioners and I'm glad we
[4:18:35]
were able to address those, I'm
[4:18:36]
glad we were able to assist
[4:18:38]
them so thank you for moving
[4:18:39]
this forward.
[4:18:42]
>>chair: commissioner bermudez.
[4:18:44]
>>commissioner bermudez: I have
[4:18:46]
a lot to say, let me start by
[4:18:47]
thanking you because your
[4:18:49]
efforts are efforts that I
[4:18:51]
think a number of us share but
[4:18:52]
you all shared which is to make
[4:18:54]
things more efficient in the
[4:18:56]
county not only for the large
[4:18:58]
businesses but small businesses
[4:19:00]
and I applaud your effort and
[4:19:02]
thank you for even though i
[4:19:03]
agree with the vice chair but I
[4:19:05]
don't like things being dropped
[4:19:07]
at 11 o'clock I appreciate the
[4:19:09]
fact you've taken steps to
[4:19:10]
clarify some of those things
[4:19:18]
and it's appreciate.
[4:19:19]
But effectiveness and
[4:19:21]
efficiency we've always shared
[4:19:23]
that and I applaud you as chair
[4:19:24]
for trying to move us in that
[4:19:25]
direction.
[4:19:27]
Not always as we had somebody
[4:19:29]
here earlier was a candidate
[4:19:31]
for lieutenant governor and
[4:19:32]
used the words nobody wants to
[4:19:34]
repeat, nobody was removed so
[4:19:37]
don't worry about it.
[4:19:39]
I probably want to support the
[4:19:42]
others and I'll tell you why.
[4:19:44]
When you were kind enough to
[4:19:48]
create the committee, namita
[4:20:01]
which by the way is an
[4:20:02]
improvement, she said 72 days
[4:20:04]
was the average and now it's 39
[4:20:06]
so it's a bit of an increase.
[4:20:07]
He also pointed out there
[4:20:09]
were 177 to 179 ordinances that
[4:20:11]
they tried to make the changes.
[4:20:12]
To decrease it to fewer
[4:20:18]
ordinances so it would be more
[4:20:19]
effective.
[4:20:21]
Increasing transparency and
[4:20:23]
decreasing bureaucracy and
[4:20:25]
being more efficient is always
[4:20:26]
something that is very very
[4:20:37]
important but looking at 5g in
[4:20:39]
particular, transparency is a
[4:20:41]
word used by many people.
[4:20:42]
Accountability is used by many
[4:20:44]
people especially in politics.
[4:20:46]
We are removing the collusion
[4:20:47]
portion.
[4:20:50]
From our ordinance.
[4:20:52]
So what type of message do we
[4:20:54]
send to the public, the
[4:20:55]
citizens at large and small
[4:20:57]
business we remove the
[4:20:58]
collusion portion?
[4:20:59]
Of the ordinance?
[4:21:03]
And don't think I didn't catch
[4:21:04]
it namita because I did, it's
[4:21:06]
not on the recommendations
[4:21:07]
because it wasn't a
[4:21:09]
recommendation and thank you to
[4:21:11]
the committee, appreciate the
[4:21:12]
work all you did.
[4:21:14]
We have a small business owner
[4:21:16]
to my left and I know bills
[4:21:18]
isn't a small business but we
[4:21:21]
are appreciative but the
[4:21:23]
collusion portion, removing
[4:21:24]
that bids precluded from
[4:21:33]
related parties.
[4:21:34]
Really?
[4:21:35]
If you're going to talk the
[4:21:37]
talk you've got to walk the
[4:21:37]
walk.
[4:21:44]
This department needs to be
[4:21:44]
changed.
[4:21:46]
Namita is a wonderful lady, the
[4:21:48]
administration has done a great
[4:21:49]
job but as many times as we say
[4:21:51]
it doesn't mean anything you do
[4:21:53]
the right job because at this
[4:21:55]
point my concern which is
[4:21:57]
whether you are large or small,
[4:22:00]
that we do things right.
[4:22:02]
The CHAIRWOMAN And many of
[4:22:06]
those members which by the way
[4:22:15]
they should be, they should
[4:22:16]
talk the talk, they should
[4:22:18]
really walk the walk after they
[4:22:19]
talk the talk.
[4:22:22]
We are sending the message and
[4:22:24]
I'm going to leave it with this
[4:22:25]
because I'm going to vote no on
[4:22:27]
the last three but I will
[4:22:30]
support you on the first one.
[4:22:32]
I think 20 days does not make a
[4:22:32]
difference.
[4:22:34]
20 days gives the opportunity
[4:22:39]
to all these people that spoke
[4:22:41]
on behalf of small businesses
[4:22:42]
and by the way the gentleman
[4:22:48]
who got a little bit emotional,
[4:22:50]
it's a second-generation small
[4:22:52]
business in miami-dade county,
[4:23:01]
needs an architect and I
[4:23:02]
thought senator garcia talks
[4:23:04]
about those startups, that's
[4:23:06]
great, we can get startups but
[4:23:08]
let's get people that can start
[4:23:09]
their own law firms, people
[4:23:11]
that construct their own
[4:23:12]
businesses going.
[4:23:14]
I have a problem with really
[4:23:15]
truthful like a problem with
[4:23:18]
the lack of transparency and
[4:23:19]
accountability on the issues
[4:23:21]
that make it more transparent
[4:23:23]
and accountable and he's not
[4:23:25]
sitting there now but I know
[4:23:27]
he's listening.
[4:23:28]
Commissioner soon to be
[4:23:30]
congressman gilbert, I'm going
[4:23:30]
to MISS Him.
[4:23:32]
I'm going to MISS Him a lot
[4:23:34]
because he's one of the guys I
[4:23:35]
count on that always checks
[4:23:37]
those details with the
[4:23:38]
administration.
[4:23:39]
Because we get told in the six
[4:23:41]
months later nothing has
[4:23:42]
happened but he's the one guy I
[4:23:44]
can count on that will say wait
[4:23:53]
a minute, did this happen, you
[4:23:55]
said this so I'm going to MISS
[4:23:57]
You because when you're gone
[4:23:59]
and I know the gentleman who
[4:24:00]
replaces you is a wonderful guy
[4:24:02]
but your zealousness to make
[4:24:04]
sure when the administration
[4:24:05]
talks the talk they should walk
[4:24:06]
the walk.
[4:24:08]
Has always been important to
[4:24:09]
this commission.
[4:24:14]
So oliver, I hope it's not just
[4:24:16]
a matter of you're going to
[4:24:17]
have other problems but I hope
[4:24:23]
that this commission if we keep
[4:24:27]
on using this term is
[4:24:28]
effective, and yes, if it can
[4:24:31]
be reduced I'm fine but we have
[4:24:37]
to monitor that whether in the
[4:24:38]
public it looks like it's going
[4:24:41]
to pass or whether there is an
[4:24:43]
extension, it's going to pass
[4:24:44]
eventually but I would like to
[4:24:46]
make sure we monitor this,
[4:24:47]
really monitor this.
[4:24:50]
i can't now that oliver is
[4:24:52]
going either that or I'm going
[4:24:54]
to have to get a cost and sit
[4:24:57]
in my office over here and it's
[4:24:58]
crazy so I want to make sure
[4:25:00]
these things get done and the
[4:25:08]
removal of section 2 11, I
[4:25:10]
don't think it's a good thing.
[4:25:11]
It sends the wrong message to
[4:25:13]
all the businesses, small
[4:25:22]
medium and large that the game
[4:25:24]
is, I don't know.
[4:25:26]
Everybody understands there's a
[4:25:29]
process and I've always been
[4:25:29]
confused.
[4:25:31]
All I want is fairness and
[4:25:31]
clarity.
[4:25:33]
The world is not perfect.
[4:25:36]
It isn't, not everybody's fair
[4:25:38]
but this is not just about us
[4:25:39]
as a commission, it's about the
[4:25:40]
administration.
[4:25:41]
We saw earlier today the
[4:25:43]
commission of a district could
[4:25:51]
have been facing tremendous
[4:25:53]
backlash and that just popped
[4:25:53]
up.
[4:25:55]
So I'm going to vote no on the
[4:25:56]
three others, I applaud you
[4:25:59]
again and don't take it
[4:26:00]
personally love the things I
[4:26:02]
said but I applaud the fact you
[4:26:04]
at least were willing to tackle
[4:26:06]
this subject, it's an important
[4:26:07]
subject and it just so happens
[4:26:09]
I'm not going to do three of
[4:26:11]
the items.
[4:26:17]
>>chair: you need to do
[4:26:18]
something?
[4:26:20]
>>commissioner gonzalez: if I
[4:26:23]
can remove cosponsorship 8 k5.
[4:26:30]
>>chair: anyone else?
[4:26:35]
Hardemon, are you getting?
[4:26:42]
I mean,
[4:26:43]
>>commissioner hardemon: you
[4:26:47]
know we can talk.
[4:26:49]
>>chair: I'm trying to say if
[4:26:52]
raquel speaks first and you say
[4:26:53]
something that triggers her
[4:26:56]
she's going to want to speak
[4:26:57]
twice.
[4:26:59]
>>commissioner hardemon: that's
[4:27:00]
how this works, we each other
[4:27:02]
and say what we believe, we
[4:27:03]
don't create a game and call
[4:27:07]
the player.
[4:27:09]
>>commissioner regalado: thank
[4:27:11]
you to my colleagues, I wish
[4:27:13]
glad some of my concerns were
[4:27:14]
mentioned and I'm going to
[4:27:15]
start with the easy stuff.
[4:27:19]
In 5g there is one of the
[4:27:21]
recommendations is to develop a
[4:27:22]
standard ground lease
[4:27:22]
agreement.
[4:27:30]
I would like this to have
[4:27:31]
parity with what we did for
[4:27:31]
hud.
[4:27:33]
What we did is we said where
[4:27:35]
going to have a standard ground
[4:27:36]
lease and when you apply
[4:27:37]
whatever you don't object to
[4:27:39]
you are barred from objecting
[4:27:43]
to it.
[4:27:45]
So I think you should add that
[4:27:46]
on here because that's really
[4:27:47]
when we study why broward and
[4:27:49]
other places do it faster it's
[4:27:54]
because we have a template,
[4:27:55]
whatever you disagree with in
[4:27:57]
that template if you do not
[4:28:12]
submit your objection when you
[4:28:14]
submit your response, you are
[4:28:16]
foreclosed from bringing it up
[4:28:17]
during negotiations so that
[4:28:19]
would be my recommendation for
[4:28:20]
parity with what we do in
[4:28:22]
affordable housing so
[4:28:23]
everything kind of lines up the
[4:28:24]
same way.
[4:28:26]
We spent a lot of time doing
[4:28:27]
that so I don't know, you are
[4:28:29]
cool with that, that's an easy
[4:28:29]
one.
[4:28:31]
The other one I wanted to
[4:28:33]
mention unfortunately I can
[4:28:34]
never forget and item.
[4:28:36]
I appreciated the five day
[4:28:37]
objection period.
[4:28:39]
And the changes to the
[4:28:40]
objection period.
[4:28:41]
But I can think off the top of
[4:28:43]
my head of seven procurements
[4:28:47]
where there was not an
[4:28:47]
objection.
[4:28:49]
Yet when it came to the board
[4:28:51]
of county commissioners we were
[4:28:53]
inundated with letters drafted
[4:28:54]
exactly like objections.
[4:28:56]
So I think we need to draw a
[4:28:58]
hard line here because what we
[4:29:00]
MAY be doing is incentivizing
[4:29:04]
people to not object and then
[4:29:05]
send a letter and turn us into
[4:29:07]
the selection committee.
[4:29:09]
It's happened too many times
[4:29:14]
and I did watch by the way,
[4:29:16]
they were fascinating, a lot of
[4:29:18]
the points that were made were
[4:29:20]
great points but this was not
[4:29:21]
tackled because it's not
[4:29:23]
something you all see, it's
[4:29:24]
something we see.
[4:29:26]
So I don't know if you want to
[4:29:28]
deal with that now, I have
[4:29:29]
suggestions.
[4:29:29]
I think again
[4:29:31]
similar to what I'm saying
[4:29:33]
about the contracts, if there
[4:29:35]
has to be a determination, if
[4:29:36]
you send a letter when this
[4:29:39]
comes to the board and there is
[4:29:41]
a determination that whatever
[4:29:54]
arguments you are making could
[4:29:56]
help make an objection those
[4:29:57]
arguments should be stricken
[4:29:59]
when it is presented to the
[4:30:00]
board because you're choosing
[4:30:02]
not to go down one path so you
[4:30:04]
can take a second bite at the
[4:30:10]
apple or worse you know both
[4:30:12]
and all we are doing is delete
[4:30:13]
relitigating the objection and
[4:30:15]
complicating things more.
[4:30:17]
I think if we are going to draw
[4:30:19]
a line that it should cover
[4:30:20]
everything and not create
[4:30:22]
unintended consequences by
[4:30:24]
incentivizing people not to
[4:30:24]
object.
[4:30:26]
>>chair: I agree, how do we?
[4:30:28]
>>commissioner regalado: how we
[4:30:35]
effectuate would be when we get
[4:30:37]
a letter, when the agenda item
[4:30:38]
publishes we get the letters.
[4:30:40]
When we get the letters they
[4:30:41]
are made part of the record
[4:30:43]
here and usually passed out.
[4:30:44]
What I would say is, and
[4:30:46]
usually procurements is copied.
[4:30:48]
When they get those letters
[4:30:49]
then they have to give it to
[4:30:51]
our legal department and they
[4:30:53]
have to say these arguments
[4:31:03]
could have been.
[4:31:04]
An objection to the
[4:31:04]
procurement.
[4:31:05]
O those
[4:31:07]
arguments are taken out because
[4:31:09]
you had your chance to object.
[4:31:11]
And you didn't object and your
[4:31:12]
placing those objections in a
[4:31:14]
correspondence so you can have
[4:31:16]
a second bite at the apple
[4:31:16]
here.
[4:31:17]
In the same way when we
[4:31:19]
function because I judicially
[4:31:21]
that things are stricken then
[4:31:22]
that should be stricken.
[4:31:24]
That would be my legal advice.
[4:31:26]
>>chair: do you see an issue
[4:31:40]
with that?
[4:31:42]
>> it sounds fair but the whole
[4:31:43]
idea is the further you advance
[4:31:45]
into the process the more
[4:31:47]
entrenched you are into the
[4:31:48]
process so the idea of creating
[4:31:50]
another level of an objection
[4:31:52]
is precisely to do that, if
[4:31:54]
there's anything that needs to
[4:31:55]
be changed about the process
[4:31:57]
that staff and the
[4:31:58]
administration have the
[4:31:59]
opportunity to do so before it
[4:32:01]
is another year before it comes
[4:32:02]
here for you.
[4:32:04]
>>chair: you're saying
[4:32:05]
specifically just to arguments
[4:32:07]
that could have been.
[4:32:09]
>>commissioner regalado: things
[4:32:10]
that should have been, what
[4:32:18]
could have fallen within an
[4:32:20]
objection to that procurement
[4:32:21]
which now they are relitigating
[4:32:23]
in correspondence to the lord
[4:32:25]
of county commissioners instead
[4:32:27]
of officially filing an
[4:32:29]
objection or they did file an
[4:32:30]
objection, it was rejected and
[4:32:32]
now we are bringing it up
[4:32:32]
again.
[4:32:34]
>>chair: I'm fine with it, but
[4:32:36]
let's say we implement that,
[4:32:37]
they send us the letter.
[4:32:39]
We it becomes part of the
[4:32:40]
record, we give it to the
[4:32:41]
attorney.
[4:32:42]
They say what you just said
[4:32:50]
that it could have been
[4:32:50]
objective.
[4:32:52]
What happens after that because
[4:32:54]
as commissioners you can still
[4:33:06]
bring it up, they still kind of
[4:33:07]
accomplish.
[4:33:08]
>>commissioner regalado: yes
[4:33:10]
but on the record it will be
[4:33:12]
said this argument could have
[4:33:13]
been part of an official
[4:33:15]
objection and they chose not to
[4:33:15]
do that.
[4:33:17]
If we still want to go down
[4:33:19]
that rabbit hole we can but at
[4:33:21]
least there is on the record a
[4:33:22]
statement that they chose to
[4:33:24]
not use the vehicle provided to
[4:33:26]
them by our procurement.
[4:33:27]
>>chair: I don't see an issue
[4:33:32]
with it.
[4:33:34]
>> as mayor you reserve the
[4:33:36]
right to listen to it but you
[4:33:38]
acknowledge it was something I
[4:33:39]
could have been cured in an
[4:33:41]
earlier portion of the board
[4:33:43]
was given the opportunity at
[4:33:43]
that time.
[4:33:45]
>>chair: it doesn't change the
[4:33:47]
outcome on our end at least but
[4:33:49]
I'm fine with it because it
[4:33:50]
doesn't change what the
[4:33:51]
committee puts on the record
[4:33:55]
and they could have objected.
[4:33:56]
>>commissioner regalado: what
[4:33:58]
I'm saying is I think the
[4:34:00]
restrictions we are placing on
[4:34:01]
objections, I don't want people
[4:34:03]
to then send letters as a
[4:34:06]
because I objection.
[4:34:08]
I'm trying to hold everyone to
[4:34:10]
that rule and I think this
[4:34:12]
allows us then to look at those
[4:34:14]
arguments in the context of not
[4:34:15]
choosing to object.
[4:34:17]
>>chair: she still has the
[4:34:18]
floor.
[4:34:19]
>>commissioner gilbert: I
[4:34:21]
follow what you say
[4:34:23]
commissioner regalado but the
[4:34:24]
CHAIRMAN's point is well taken
[4:34:26]
because you're saying that
[4:34:28]
would just be cosmetic because
[4:34:36]
we could still always consider
[4:34:38]
and any other thing would be a
[4:34:39]
limitation on our ability to
[4:34:41]
take whatever comes into
[4:34:42]
purview into making our
[4:34:44]
decisions and we have that
[4:34:45]
discretion unless it's because
[4:34:46]
I judicial.
[4:34:54]
I think it's just cosmetic.
[4:34:56]
>>commissioner regalado: it's a
[4:34:58]
clarification on the record
[4:34:59]
because I can think of three
[4:35:01]
times it's happened where we
[4:35:02]
put our attorneys in a
[4:35:04]
difficult spot because then we
[4:35:06]
asked the question could this
[4:35:13]
have been an objection?
[4:35:14]
If it's already comes to us
[4:35:16]
with the determination saying
[4:35:18]
they didn't file an objection
[4:35:19]
or they did file an objection
[4:35:21]
and what's in this letter is a
[4:35:23]
repeat of that objection or
[4:35:24]
they could have filed, maybe
[4:35:26]
they mentioned five things,
[4:35:28]
they could have filed
[4:35:30]
objections for 1, 2 and three
[4:35:31]
they didn't and now four and
[4:35:32]
five that would have fallen
[4:35:34]
outside the scope, we can
[4:35:35]
consider all of it but at least
[4:35:37]
the record is clear as to their
[4:35:39]
decision to not file an
[4:35:41]
objection to be held to the
[4:35:42]
existing standard and if we
[4:35:44]
want to then step into that
[4:35:45]
space we do so knowingly
[4:35:47]
without turning it into a
[4:35:48]
commissioner has to ask the
[4:35:50]
question in order to have that
[4:35:51]
clarified.
[4:35:52]
>>commissioner gilbert: but
[4:35:54]
that's why it's cosmetic
[4:35:55]
because it doesn't actually
[4:35:57]
change anything, that's almost
[4:35:59]
the definition of cosmetic.
[4:36:01]
It doesn't change anything so
[4:36:03]
what they can say.
[4:36:04]
>>commissioner regalado: I hope
[4:36:07]
it does incentivizing them.
[4:36:09]
>>commissioner gilbert: so it's
[4:36:10]
lipgloss and not lipstick, I
[4:36:12]
don't get that but you accepted
[4:36:13]
it, let's roll.
[4:36:15]
>>chair: commissioner bermudez
[4:36:17]
to that point.
[4:36:18]
>>commissioner bermudez: I
[4:36:20]
agree with commissioner
[4:36:22]
gilbert, it's totally cosmetic
[4:36:23]
because some of the people on
[4:36:25]
that committee do this all the
[4:36:27]
time, we get a letter and an
[4:36:28]
elective decision was taken by
[4:36:30]
the committee and they might
[4:36:32]
lose a procurement here and
[4:36:34]
then they come in front of us,
[4:36:35]
I have no problem with it.
[4:36:37]
My only suggestion would be
[4:36:38]
since I believe legally they
[4:36:45]
still have the ability to bring
[4:36:47]
it in front of us whether we
[4:36:49]
like it or not it's up to us to
[4:36:51]
say you didn't follow the rules
[4:36:53]
and what I suggest is we also
[4:36:55]
add some language the county
[4:36:56]
attorney's office has to put a
[4:36:58]
line or a copy of it is in an
[4:36:59]
instance that they did not
[4:37:06]
appeal x, y, and z here.
[4:37:08]
But put it in writing because
[4:37:09]
we all know how the game is
[4:37:11]
played, they didn't get it,
[4:37:12]
they hired ex-, x lobby sauce
[4:37:14]
and tries to change the
[4:37:15]
decision.
[4:37:16]
If we are clear at the very
[4:37:18]
least we do it as a body and
[4:37:19]
accepted because you have a
[4:37:21]
right to come in front of us.
[4:37:23]
But I want the attorneys to add
[4:37:29]
least put it in writing.
[4:37:31]
>>commissioner regalado: this
[4:37:32]
would allow us to quantify it
[4:37:34]
and if people keep doing it we
[4:37:37]
can do something about it
[4:37:39]
because right now it's kind of
[4:37:40]
left to our memory to remember
[4:37:42]
how many times it's happened
[4:37:44]
because it's not something we
[4:37:45]
considered.
[4:37:45]
Next one.
[4:37:50]
To commissioner gilbert's point
[4:37:52]
about deviations, one of the
[4:37:53]
things I was hoping to find
[4:37:56]
here and I didn't find was more
[4:37:57]
accountability in terms of
[4:38:11]
change orders.
[4:38:13]
I would separate change orders
[4:38:14]
into 2 buckets.
[4:38:16]
Change orders as a result of a