[0:00] All

[0:02] right, I'll call this meeting of the

[0:03] board of selectment to order. It's 601.

[0:05] We'll start with the pledge of

[0:06] >> allegiance.

[0:10] Algiance to the flag of the United

[0:12] States of America and to the republic

[0:15] for which it stands, one nation under

[0:18] God, indivisible, with liberty and

[0:21] justice for all.

[0:24] >> All right.

[0:25] Um

[0:27] >> well it seems that uh the person I was

[0:30] expecting isn't quite here. So

[0:32] >> Oh, I'd just like to take a quick moment

[0:33] to tell the people at home the reason I

[0:36] wasn't at the last two meetings is

[0:38] because I had a very sick family member

[0:40] and they needed medical intervention. So

[0:43] I apologize for that and uh I we will

[0:47] address some of the issues at those

[0:48] meetings another time. Thank you.

[0:50] >> And we are short Rachel and Joe. So

[0:53] >> we are unfortunately

[0:54] >> we are going to do a little bit of an a

[0:56] bridge version but anyways

[0:58] uh you want to hop right into new

[1:00] business Peter what do you think

[1:02] >> right so

[1:03] >> do appointments

[1:04] >> you'll have appointments at your next

[1:05] meeting everybody remains in holdover

[1:07] status but what you do have in front of

[1:09] you are the recommended appointments for

[1:11] the police department if you want to

[1:13] deal with those this evening and their

[1:16] three and one-year terms of the

[1:19] individuals uh put forth by chief cooper

[1:22] So, I see nothing here surprising and I

[1:24] would be comfortable making the

[1:25] appointment.

[1:28] >> Um, the only thing I'm curious on, you

[1:31] know, is

[1:34] during the their last appointments, what

[1:37] kind of um

[1:40] different classes have they taken,

[1:42] certifications have they gotten? I I

[1:44] just would like to know a little bit

[1:45] more. That would be great.

[1:50] You want to table that till the next uh

[1:52] meeting. And

[1:53] >> I don't have a problem with I I trust

[1:56] Chief Coup's um

[1:58] >> we can

[1:59] >> professionalism and being a department

[2:00] head and I think if there was anything

[2:02] that was a flag he would have addressed

[2:05] it or held their appointment. So

[2:06] >> So just for clarification too I think

[2:08] the fire is um because we have a strong

[2:10] chief these are already appointed.

[2:12] They're already appointed. This is more

[2:13] of a formality.

[2:15] >> Correct. So this this we can just kind

[2:17] of take a vote and and recommend or

[2:19] appoint. I mean we're not really

[2:20] appointing anybody. So

[2:21] >> just continue on.

[2:23] >> You would be appointing the police.

[2:25] >> No, I know,

[2:25] >> but you're not appointing the fire

[2:27] department.

[2:27] >> I was just taking the easy one off the

[2:29] table by saying that one's kind of a

[2:30] given. So

[2:32] >> I um we we can ask is certifications

[2:34] pertaining to post or

[2:37] >> Yeah. uh cons well concerning everything

[2:39] with the police department because I

[2:41] know there were some issues where

[2:42] certifications for all staff had or most

[2:46] of the staff even the chief had fallen

[2:48] out of compliance at one point in very

[2:50] recent history and um I just want to

[2:53] know that everybody is all set and just

[2:56] I know faith is a great thing but fact

[2:59] is better.

[3:01] >> Did you have a conversation with the

[3:02] chief on these appointments?

[3:05] uh just that he's recommending these and

[3:07] it's the team that he's got and uh I

[3:09] didn't get into what Kristen's

[3:11] >> and this isn't the whole team, but I

[3:12] mean the names I recognize on here are

[3:14] usually pretty good. So

[3:17] >> yeah.

[3:22] » So can I can I make a motion? Are you

[3:24] comfortable or do you want to hold?

[3:25] >> I'm I'm not, but that's you're the

[3:28] chair.

[3:29] >> So if we hold it, it just goes into hold

[3:30] over status.

[3:31] >> Yes.

[3:32] >> For next meeting.

[3:33] >> Yeah. Agenda, are you comfortable?

[3:35] >> I'm comfortable voting. Yep.

[3:37] >> All right. I'm I'm going to make the

[3:38] motion to appoint. Do we have to

[3:41] announce the names? How do you want to

[3:42] do this? Can we just

[3:43] >> Patrolman Keith Lanigan, three-year term

[3:45] expiring 2029. Patrolman Mark Morris,

[3:49] three-year term expiring in 2029.

[3:51] Patrolman Jonathan Schuman, one-year

[3:53] term expiring 2027. Patrolman Edward

[3:56] Delarm, one-year term expiring 2027.

[3:59] Patrolman Paul Gurin, one-year term

[4:02] expiring 2027. Patrolman Henry uh

[4:04] Politakis, one-year term expiring 2027.

[4:07] Uh my apologies for hacking those names

[4:09] if any of those are misspoken. Looking

[4:11] for a second.

[4:12] >> Second.

[4:13] >> Take a vote.

[4:15] >> Nay.

[4:16] >> I

[4:17] >> Okay, so that passes two to one.

[4:19] >> And if for any reason something is out

[4:21] of compliance that they would be

[4:23] >> Well, no.

[4:24] >> Yeah. Well, I'm just saying the chief

[4:26] would remove them from schedule until

[4:27] those things are cleared up. didn't

[4:29] happen in the past

[4:30] >> at all.

[4:31] >> So, Peter, would you mind just circling

[4:32] back with the chief?

[4:33] >> I sure will.

[4:33] >> Okay, I sure will.

[4:34] >> Um, and do you need a motion um for

[4:36] these folks in the fire department or is

[4:38] this information you're comfortable?

[4:39] >> Just information.

[4:40] >> So, we're done with this.

[4:40] >> Okay, great.

[4:41] >> Okay.

[4:43] Consideration approval of the one day

[4:44] liquor license for Earth Ltd. So, we got

[4:47] to take a vote on this, didn't we?

[4:49] >> No, that's this a separate date. It's a

[4:51] one-day liquor license for a separate

[4:52] date July 2nd. All the same materials

[4:55] have been updated. So, the one I signed

[4:57] this morning was the 11th,

[4:58] >> like the 15th or 11th, something like

[5:01] that.

[5:01] >> Okay. This is a second. Okay.

[5:02] >> Yes.

[5:04] >> And uh they provide certifications. I

[5:06] went through the paperwork.

[5:07] >> Yes. It's all

[5:08] >> I'm comfortable.

[5:09] >> Same as last time. Yeah.

[5:10] >> Yep.

[5:11] >> Make a motion to approve the um one day

[5:13] liquor license for Earth LTV on July

[5:17] 2nd, 2026.

[5:19] >> Second.

[5:19] >> I'll give it to you. No,

[5:20] >> I'll second that motion.

[5:21] >> I'll take a vote. Kristen

[5:22] >> I Jen

[5:24] >> I

[5:24] >> There we go. So, we can sign that.

[5:27] >> Okay.

[5:32] » All three of you might as well sign it.

[5:34] >> And uh I'm going to print because I have

[5:35] a doctor signature. I only play one on

[5:38] TV.

[5:40] >> Okay.

[5:47] » Are you going to table approvals or do

[5:49] we have to do that?

[5:49] >> Yes, I have nothing further on that. Um,

[5:52] so that would be the last date to do it

[5:53] is your your July 13th meeting if there

[5:56] are any.

[5:57] >> So there's none at this time.

[5:59] >> There are none at this time.

[6:00] >> Okay.

[6:01] >> Um, I was thinking we would table the

[6:02] BOS policies and procedures.

[6:04] >> Okay.

[6:04] >> So we have a full board.

[6:06] >> Mhm.

[6:07] >> Was that a split that I provided good?

[6:10] And you know you wanted a I'm just doing

[6:12] 1 through 11. So the

[6:15] >> it was ma very manageable.

[6:17] >> Okay. Good.

[6:18] >> What is this 1 through 11? of the uh of

[6:20] the bylaws p sorry policy and procedures

[6:23] policy just so you're not doing all of

[6:25] them at once.

[6:26] >> Yep. So we review one through 11 then

[6:28] we'll talk about it. We'll come back

[6:29] with a full board.

[6:30] >> Oh that would be lovely because I have

[6:31] some notes on that and I'd love to

[6:33] share.

[6:34] >> Sure. So we'll talk about 1 through 11

[6:35] and uh we'll table it for this.

[6:37] >> That sounds fantastic.

[6:40] >> Um

[6:41] >> oh business uh mees water status update.

[6:46] So, I have an update from James Lions

[6:50] from D. Um, I talked to him last week

[6:54] and Mass D issued activation approval to

[6:57] activate and start pilot testing as we

[7:00] know and that was on 220 of 26. Uh, the

[7:03] treatment addition included total

[7:05] organic carbon removal of the PFAS

[7:08] removal. uh the system was put into

[7:11] service and the consultant and operator

[7:13] Mccclure engineering started collecting

[7:15] data. Now we don't have the most recent

[7:18] data report that's been compiled per the

[7:21] last time I talked to James. So we are

[7:24] just waiting you know the data has been

[7:26] collected. It just hasn't been compiled

[7:28] completely yet and we should get that I

[7:31] would assume in the next week maybe

[7:33] slightly. Uh on 414 of course everybody

[7:37] knows the consultant Mccclure

[7:39] Engineering sent an email indicating

[7:42] they intended to lower the chlorine

[7:44] levels going into the green sand filters

[7:46] in order to try to reduce the formation

[7:48] of disinfection byproducts. We the D

[7:52] responded by stating that they had

[7:55] concerns about lowering the chlorine

[7:56] levels as this has a historically caused

[7:59] iron and manganese removal filters to

[8:02] not work properly. Uh water becomes

[8:04] discolored.

[8:06] Uh D asked that they please contact the

[8:09] manufacturer of the total organic carbon

[8:11] uh remove a filter system and see if it

[8:14] may be possible to relocate this filter

[8:16] to before the point of disinfection and

[8:19] add a prefilter to pro to protect the

[8:22] TOC.

[8:24] And that filter if it's protected

[8:27] there's reason for the request that the

[8:29] TOC is traditionally removed before the

[8:31] water is disinfected as the TOC and the

[8:34] chlorine are what cause the formation of

[8:37] disinfection byproducts. the minimal

[8:40] amount of pilot data that they have

[8:42] received show that disinfection

[8:44] byproducts were forming immediately

[8:46] after disinfection and that the current

[8:48] location of TOC filter downstream of

[8:51] disinfection was not adequately reducing

[8:53] the disinfection byproducts. this issue

[8:56] was raised in the permit process that

[8:59] they um had sent to the manufacturer of

[9:03] the TOC filter but the consultant

[9:06] indicated that the filter manufacturer

[9:08] was confident this setup would work. So

[9:10] they did ask that once the consultant

[9:13] had discussed the issue with the TOC

[9:16] filter manufacturer to please reach out

[9:18] to their office to discuss. uh they have

[9:21] received no response for that and they

[9:24] have followed up on different occasions

[9:26] with that. So I think where we're at now

[9:29] is they're not receiving breakthrough.

[9:32] Uh they are receiving a little bit of

[9:34] that chlorination. Um but these are not

[9:37] uh nothing seems to be bad levels at

[9:40] this point. A lot of the issues are

[9:42] resolved. M

[9:45] >> I talked to James a little bit about the

[9:47] prospect long term and it seems that

[9:51] everybody's of the same mind that

[9:53] long-term we probably would switch to

[9:56] just drilling a new well and that's

[9:59] something that in my opinion I think the

[10:00] board should deeply consider uh we do

[10:03] have that grant and funding in place. we

[10:07] might want to get ahead of this

[10:09] >> and I I think we do have town land if

[10:11] we're still own it that's abuing that

[10:13] property and in that area there's

[10:17] historically to the best of my knowledge

[10:18] no no no information that I've ever

[10:21] heard of where those wells had issues um

[10:25] we could work with the D and site that

[10:28] property I talked to James would that be

[10:30] a possibility he said absolutely and

[10:33] that you know we have that grant in

[10:34] process and that may be something that

[10:36] town of Millville should consider

[10:40] >> and we have to write a scope of work for

[10:41] that and go with the bid even though

[10:42] it's a grant right

[10:44] >> well it's grant is funding it there's

[10:46] plenty of money to do that well and

[10:48] Mccclure has

[10:50] >> been communicating with D on that

[10:53] process and the commencement of that

[10:56] process because they think you know that

[10:58] they're still going back and forth as

[11:00] Kristen say on says on

[11:02] >> where to locate the TOC filter versus

[11:05] where They have it today. They have not

[11:08] had I've not had to issue any

[11:11] non-compliance

[11:13] uh report so far, but uh because they've

[11:16] been managing it for the you know the

[11:19] water that's ultimately coming out of

[11:21] the system. Under the pilot study, they

[11:24] do test the water at different other

[11:26] spots within the system

[11:28] >> and it indic you know it may indicate

[11:30] that they've exceeded an MCL within but

[11:33] it's then treated before it goes out

[11:34] into the

[11:35] >> correct. So as it comes into the green

[11:38] uh pardon me the sand filters and then

[11:40] it goes to the green sand filter there

[11:42] is a point of testing before the first

[11:44] green sand filter. Then between the next

[11:47] that green sand filter and the next

[11:49] there's another point of testing. And

[11:51] then finally at the end of both green

[11:54] sand filters there's a third point of

[11:56] testing. So when you have breakthrough

[11:59] through the first filter if it were to

[12:00] occur it would be in that middle testing

[12:03] site and you'd be able to discern that

[12:05] prior to exceeding the capacity of the

[12:08] second green sand filter. So you would

[12:10] never get a breach within the system and

[12:13] you'd never get full breakthrough that

[12:15] would come to the tap water. And so

[12:17] that's the logic behind all that

[12:19] testing.

[12:19] >> So by overcllorinating though, don't you

[12:21] place the green sand in jeopardy? You

[12:23] have to change it.

[12:24] >> You do. So that what James was speaking

[12:26] of is to put the initial chloration

[12:30] really before the first sand filters be

[12:34] well before the green sand filters. So

[12:37] um that would actually stop and start

[12:39] Those sand filters would help break up

[12:42] some of the chlorination. They do the

[12:43] job. They capture some of that

[12:45] chlorination, reduce the amount that

[12:48] travels downstream to the green sand

[12:50] filters, making them more effective and

[12:52] less problems on the outside.

[12:54] >> All right. And the last quarter last

[12:56] quarter was passing, Peter.

[12:58] >> Yeah. I've not had to issue any reports

[13:00] and they tell me pretty quickly when

[13:01] it's time.

[13:02] >> Okay.

[13:02] >> So, we're we're still good.

[13:04] >> I don't have any more questions. You

[13:06] good?

[13:06] >> Yeah.

[13:07] >> All right.

[13:08] uh high school update. You want to table

[13:10] that since Rachel's not here or unless

[13:11] you have an update.

[13:12] >> She did give me an update, right? Um so

[13:14] I I'm happy to read that. Pretty pretty

[13:17] good one. Um she said that there, you

[13:19] know, they at their last meeting of the

[13:21] school building committee, there was

[13:23] more refining of the building design

[13:25] with some more solid estimates. They're

[13:27] looking at 154 million for construction

[13:30] hard costs for the project. Those costs

[13:33] do not include the soft costs, and she

[13:36] mentions furniture, legal fees, and

[13:38] consulting fees. There's also a look at

[13:40] add-ons and alternate addition costs,

[13:44] including a separate out building with

[13:46] bathrooms, lockers, and concessions that

[13:48] would cost 2.3 million. Football

[13:51] bleachers at 600K, sports lighting at

[13:54] 1.8 million. And those costs would have

[13:56] to be funded completely by the towns. It

[13:59] would not be covered under the MSBA

[14:00] grant. The um 154 does not include a

[14:04] contingency and typically that would be

[14:06] around 10% or an additional 15 million.

[14:09] The uh range of MSBA reimbursement on

[14:12] those costs that are covered by them

[14:15] would be around 59 to 65%.

[14:18] Again, not on the total cost of the

[14:20] project. They'll cover about 130,000

[14:23] square feet of the building, but

[14:24] currently the proposed building is at

[14:26] 151,000 square feet. So there's 21,000

[14:30] square feet outside of the MSBA funding.

[14:34] >> Um, and one of the reasons uh largely

[14:37] due to uh having the seventh grade

[14:39] academic wing, which reportedly the

[14:42] teachers weren't in favor of the 7 to 12

[14:45] grade design. They're more in favor of

[14:47] the 8 to 12 and Rachel wanted that to be

[14:49] mentioned.

[14:50] >> Um, they're looking to have a vote in

[14:53] November on the ballot. I I believe it

[14:55] also has to be at a special town

[14:57] meeting. Right. Um, and there's another

[15:01] meeting this coming Wednesday,

[15:03] uh, 5:00 pm, and the school building

[15:06] committee will be voting to submit the

[15:08] current design package for the MSBA. I

[15:10] did ask Rachel if there was any estimate

[15:13] of cost per 100K. They that's still not

[15:16] available. So, uh, you know, 100K

[15:19] evaluation, if you will.

[15:20] >> Cool. So,

[15:21] >> you kind of have to have your schematic

[15:24] >> schematic. Thank you. schematic design

[15:26] um approved and that's what's going for

[15:28] them and then that will drive the next

[15:30] those will drive the numbers

[15:32] >> um so to put numbers out there it they

[15:35] could change and that they want the

[15:36] information that goes out there to be

[15:38] the accurate um information and so the

[15:41] >> the ballot because you have to vote at

[15:43] town meeting and on ballot because both

[15:45] towns obviously it's a state election

[15:47] >> to get it on the ballot they know the

[15:49] deadlines they know the information um

[15:51] they'll work with the town clerks to get

[15:53] it so that a separate separate election

[15:56] doesn't need to be held um in both

[15:59] communities.

[15:59] >> Great.

[16:00] >> So speaking of that, actually squirrel

[16:01] moment here. Um June 30th, the

[16:04] appointment for the town clerk was until

[16:05] that point and we don't have a meeting

[16:06] between now and then. So

[16:08] >> So she would be in holdover status and

[16:11] she would be returning

[16:14] her note that says she wants to be

[16:16] appointed. Okay. So she plans to okay

[16:18] >> seek reappointment by you. Um, and so

[16:21] all of the parties are in holdover

[16:24] status. It's taken a while to get all

[16:26] the records coordinated so that letters

[16:28] could go out. They went out last week to

[16:30] ask folks if they want to re-up and then

[16:33] from there you'll see a schedule that

[16:35] says okay so and so to be reappointed.

[16:37] >> I said want to be left without a town

[16:38] clerk.

[16:38] >> No, we won't. And uh part of the

[16:40] negotiation of

[16:43] her includes the the space in the old

[16:46] town hall that we'll be

[16:48] >> she'll be getting.

[16:50] >> Ah okay.

[16:51] >> Okay.

[16:52] >> Uh the essentials office.

[16:54] >> Yes.

[16:56] >> All right.

[16:57] Uh old town hall repair reuse. So before

[17:00] that I also had you have in there the

[17:02] MSBA letter sorry

[17:04] >> has information on this uh regarding the

[17:07] um Maloney school which is being taken

[17:09] out of service for educational purposes

[17:12] by the town of Blackstone. And so what's

[17:16] left is some amount of funding due back

[17:19] to MSBA uh 27,000 approximately. Right.

[17:23] And what MSBA in this letter that's in

[17:25] your packets is saying that they would

[17:28] add that cost or they would reduce the

[17:31] amount that they would reimburse on the

[17:33] high school project. So the only thing I

[17:35] would point out is the 207 is a

[17:39] Blackstone cost

[17:40] >> but by reducing the reimbursement on the

[17:43] high school project it then becomes a

[17:46] reduction in reimbursement for Milville.

[17:48] So Mil Mill would be paying for

[17:50] >> indirectly

[17:51] >> 25% of that cost indirectly.

[17:53] >> So indirectly. Yeah.

[17:54] >> So that's something to think about how

[17:56] you want to

[17:57] >> maybe consider dealing with that.

[18:00] >> I think we definitely have to.

[18:01] >> Yes.

[18:02] >> We we should talk about it. Yeah. I I

[18:04] thought

[18:04] >> we owe zero

[18:05] >> correct

[18:06] >> is what we owe. And so we're not going

[18:07] to owe a third of or a quarter of

[18:10] >> 207.

[18:11] >> Yeah. 207. So that's going to have to be

[18:13] a conversation we have with the district

[18:15] in Blackstone.

[18:16] >> Yeah. What is their logic behind us

[18:18] owing a quarter

[18:20] of of that? It

[18:22] >> Well, they're just using, you know, in

[18:24] other words, MSBA says, "Okay, the

[18:26] district owes us this back."

[18:27] >> Sure.

[18:28] >> And I think they're the way they look

[18:30] must look at is independent of the lease

[18:32] agreements the town ha each town has.

[18:35] Okay.

[18:35] >> For the buildings each town owns, which

[18:37] would be the elementary schools. So,

[18:39] >> they may not be aware of that fact.

[18:42] >> Yeah. that those buildings were owned

[18:44] separately and and drived separately

[18:46] prior to our joint agreement. And so,

[18:48] yeah,

[18:48] >> even though the school takes out the

[18:50] loan

[18:51] >> through MSBA,

[18:53] >> um it's kind of within the community

[18:56] that it's housed in is is paying that

[18:58] loan back

[18:59] >> loan holders. Yeah.

[19:00] >> Um so, when I say a quarter to a third,

[19:03] that's our enrollment. That's our piece

[19:05] of the budget.

[19:06] >> I figured that's where that number. So

[19:07] when I say like I mean really this is

[19:09] Blackstone's loan that that the school

[19:12] manages through MSBA.

[19:14] >> Yeah.

[19:14] >> But we we our name besides being part of

[19:17] the regional district shouldn't be on

[19:18] there.

[19:19] >> Right.

[19:19] >> Yeah. I was hoping to have a guest star

[19:21] tonight to at least clarify some of

[19:23] those points but we didn't have

[19:25] somebody. So but my understanding was

[19:28] the initial costs were not going to be

[19:30] uh formed by Milville. But if they're

[19:32] going to be in effect in an indirect

[19:34] way, then

[19:35] >> out of

[19:36] >> we need to have further discussions.

[19:37] Yeah.

[19:38] >> Yep.

[19:38] >> So, I just want to point that out from

[19:40] that.

[19:40] >> I again I thought we'd have some

[19:42] clarification, but maybe at a future

[19:44] meeting.

[19:45] >> Okay.

[19:47] >> All right. So, we've uh we've killed

[19:49] that for now.

[19:50] >> Town hall.

[19:51] Yeah.

[19:52] >> Let's talk about that.

[19:54] >> Yeah.

[19:54] >> Town hall. Yeah. So, uh

[19:56] >> the assessor's office.

[19:58] >> I'm sorry.

[19:59] >> He yelled something about the assessor

[20:00] office. office. The first I heard about

[20:02] that information.

[20:03] >> Yeah. The first he's hearing about cuz I

[20:05] was just going to ask um if the people

[20:08] everyone who has space, are they getting

[20:10] equal space at the next place? Cuz you

[20:13] get accustomed to what you're living in.

[20:15] Yeah. And

[20:16] >> and so is everybody's space equal? Like

[20:20] >> I think there's a planagram, right? That

[20:22] >> Yeah. So we've been working through

[20:24] that, right? And it's still in a bit of

[20:26] flux. And so we've had movers come in

[20:29] and remove.

[20:32] There's my guest star.

[20:34] >> Do you want to do you want to backtrack

[20:36] real quick or

[20:37] >> do you mind

[20:38] >> before we open that discussion? Hey Dan,

[20:40] >> Mr. Keith, do you mind coming up? I I

[20:41] was holding this for you. So

[20:44] >> we were hoping to just clarify uh the

[20:48] JFK Maloney School. Um

[20:50] >> Yes.

[20:51] >> And so before you walked in, Peter was

[20:54] um just telling me uh I'm Russell.

[20:57] >> No, you win.

[20:59] >> You'd win.

[21:00] >> So, our understanding is that the

[21:01] initial cost would be worn by

[21:03] Blackstone, but that there may be an

[21:04] impact to the MSBA loan.

[21:06] >> So, I just shared that letter that's in

[21:07] the board's packet, right?

[21:09] >> Yes. What you received and the MSBA was

[21:11] so No. Yes. The letter is accurate. So,

[21:14] the town of Blackstone's full intent

[21:17] is to pay that off.

[21:18] >> So, it had no effect on the upcoming

[21:21] >> school project.

[21:22] >> Yes.

[21:22] >> So, you're going to pay that in front.

[21:24] Okay.

[21:24] >> Yeah. That was part of the town meeting

[21:25] vote on the 1.5 million.

[21:27] >> Yeah.

[21:28] >> Okay.

[21:29] I thought that was kind of the case, but

[21:31] I I was hoping you could clarify that,

[21:32] but then when Peter presented that, I

[21:34] wasn't sure. So,

[21:34] >> yeah. So, and so article I think it was

[21:36] articles 8, nine, and 10 or somewhere

[21:38] around there. So, those are all town

[21:40] articles and those were all re and so I

[21:43] know that may have been Mr. Finn was a

[21:45] little concerned that I was speaking on

[21:46] behalf of the district. That was

[21:48] completely all town related. So, when I

[21:50] said we will be would be on the hook, I

[21:52] meant the town of Blackstone. It's tough

[21:53] when you have many hats.

[21:54] >> Well, yeah. I was figured it would be

[21:57] pretty clear that we was a town meeting.

[21:59] >> Yeah. In

[22:00] >> Blackstone Town related, but Yeah.

[22:01] >> Yeah. So, and it's been it's been um

[22:04] stated plenty of times in the uh select

[22:07] men's meeting in Blackstone and in the

[22:09] school committee that the town's

[22:11] >> burden alone.

[22:12] >> Okay.

[22:13] >> Yeah. And so there's no um so we did get

[22:17] the uh our payoff on it just while while

[22:19] I'm here. Uh the town's payoff on the

[22:22] MSBA portion is 26,000.

[22:24] >> Okay.

[22:25] >> And we had 129,000

[22:28] uh left over the next up until 2029

[22:32] anyhow to pay. So that was it's all so

[22:34] it's all covered.

[22:35] >> Gotcha. Okay.

[22:36] >> So we're waiting on the next steps to

[22:39] hear back from MSBA. Then this will go

[22:42] still goes in front of the school

[22:43] committee and things like that. So the

[22:45] town meeting and vote is essentially to

[22:46] get all the provisions in place. The

[22:48] first two articles were legal ease of

[22:50] removing it from the lease part and the

[22:53] second part was

[22:56] um well first one I think was separating

[22:58] the building. Second part was removing

[23:00] that portion of it from the lease.

[23:02] >> Okay.

[23:02] >> And the third part was for funding for

[23:05] retrofitting.

[23:07] >> Makes that makes sense to me. Anybody

[23:09] have any questions about that?

[23:10] >> No.

[23:10] >> And it's going to be paid off before the

[23:12] um school building project goes forward.

[23:15] >> Yes. Yes. So he doesn't have any however

[23:18] we would like to pay it off. However,

[23:20] the MSBA sets it up, but we're very

[23:23] clear that so

[23:25] the superintendent is setting up is

[23:27] attempting to set up a call. So we have

[23:30] to respond. I think it in the letter is

[23:31] June 25th and

[23:33] >> and so the superintendent has a response

[23:37] ready

[23:38] >> um that it has no impact on the current

[23:42] um ongoing building proposal. uh for the

[23:46] high school.

[23:48] Um it's just a matter of

[23:51] the um technicality of how how we pay it

[23:54] off. We will the town of Blackstoneone

[23:57] can pay that off um as of June 1, July

[24:00] 1st. It's we have authorization to pay

[24:03] that off as of July 1st. I think the

[24:05] date on that was for July 5th. The the

[24:07] actually the payoff

[24:10] amount is from July 15, 2025.

[24:14] H

[24:15] number so they went back to last July

[24:18] and we're not debating that because that

[24:20] building was empty in July 15th of 2025.

[24:24] So we're not argu we it came in under

[24:27] what we expected for the payoff anyhow.

[24:29] So,

[24:30] >> and moving forward, um we'll have

[24:32] conversations

[24:34] um

[24:36] based on this, you know, based on the

[24:37] square footage because there's heating

[24:40] and um electrical costs that Milville

[24:43] pays a portion to through the district

[24:45] that we want to make sure that Milville

[24:47] is not paying

[24:49] >> at all, you know, and that's the town of

[24:50] Blackstone doesn't want we own we'll own

[24:53] that that obligation. So it may start

[24:56] off as

[24:58] a base with an agreement with the town

[25:00] of Milville based on a formula of square

[25:02] footage until we can get some type of

[25:03] meat because unfortunately there's not two electrical meters

[25:07] there's one

[25:07] >> separation is not clean.

[25:09] >> Yeah and and and so but we will ensure

[25:12] that

[25:13] >> can you submeter that? I so we are

[25:16] looking into that now um

[25:18] >> to get a better um uh reading on I guess

[25:24] without anything else the fairest way is

[25:26] like what's the building operating under

[25:28] based on square footage we've taken this

[25:31] square footage back

[25:32] >> but we'll we'll try to quickly get a um

[25:35] >> yeah if you separate the if you can see

[25:37] the separation of the services before it

[25:39] enters the main you can just put a

[25:41] submeter on that and those will

[25:43] digitally calculate

[25:45] you know, in real time. So, we're

[25:47] actually separated instead of because

[25:49] you could use more power one place or

[25:51] the other and and that would be then

[25:53] offset by us paying, you know, by

[25:57] percentage of square foot instead. This

[25:59] would be a true separation through

[26:00] submarine.

[26:01] >> That's the goal.

[26:01] >> Yeah, I like that.

[26:02] >> And yes, that was one of the first

[26:04] things uh we looked into as well as um

[26:09] >> the um you know, some of it some of

[26:11] those rooms will have mini splits and

[26:13] things like that. So we'll be offsetting

[26:14] even the the the heating system coming

[26:17] in. So but in in the meanwhile we I my

[26:22] thought and I think I may have mentioned

[26:24] this to you is um whatever that offset

[26:27] is that Blackstone is paying I'd like

[26:30] the town of Milville to see that monthly

[26:32] or whatever when the bills are being

[26:33] paid so that you see that you're not

[26:35] paying uh that that that cost is being

[26:38] borne by the entirely by the town of

[26:40] Blackstone.

[26:40] >> That' be great. Thank you.

[26:41] >> That's great to have clarity. Thank you

[26:43] for that. That's that's really being

[26:45] upfront. Thank you.

[26:46] >> Thank you for swinging by unless Okay.

[26:47] Hate making you come all this way.

[26:48] Unless you have anything else you want

[26:49] to add.

[26:50] >> I don't think I do.

[26:52] >> Still want to arm wrestle though, do

[26:54] you?

[26:54] >> I mean, we'll save it. It's been a long

[26:56] day.

[26:57] >> Well, listen, actually, I got to pause

[26:59] you. I mean, we did have a UF UFC fight

[27:01] on the White House line. I mean, we

[27:03] could potentially do this.

[27:04] Extraordinary.

[27:04] >> I mean, it's not on the agenda, but I

[27:06] mean, we could do it.

[27:07] >> Things not anticipated.

[27:08] >> I tell you, I'm 48 hours a meeting.

[27:10] >> I'm really not interested. who

[27:12] anticipated

[27:12] >> hurt me more than I can hurt anybody

[27:14] else.

[27:15] >> He is a strong guy, you know. So,

[27:16] >> yeah, I don't think is going to cover

[27:19] that, Dan. I think you're

[27:20] >> want to hurt me and I don't want to hurt

[27:21] him.

[27:22] >> All right.

[27:24] >> And yeah, that's um I think that's all I had.

[27:28] >> Um Oh, and we um the Millville Water.

[27:32] I'm not asking for an update on it, but

[27:34] we I'm on an email with a resident that

[27:37] is looking for um updates in uh through the school

[27:42] district. Um and so if um

[27:47] you are are you the point person?

[27:49] >> I I am. Yeah.

[27:50] >> All right. So if I we can we just attach

[27:52] that stuff and send it.

[27:54] >> So I've asked I've asked Mccclure to

[27:56] summarize it because that attaching that

[27:58] stuff there's a ton of stuff. I've asked

[28:01] them to put a summary together

[28:03] >> and to be able to, you know, provide

[28:05] that information based on Kristen had

[28:07] sent that over from the residents. So,

[28:09] I'm waiting on Mccclure

[28:11] >> to uh address that. Frankly,

[28:14] >> I would prefer like and anyone asking

[28:17] for water updates

[28:18] >> instead of going through the school,

[28:20] they should probably just go right to

[28:21] you guys are the water. Yeah. So, so if

[28:24] there's no objection like I I don't

[28:26] think the school should be

[28:28] >> giving what we have no problem posting

[28:31] stuff on the website,

[28:32] >> but but I I

[28:33] >> haven't talked to the experts.

[28:34] >> I want Mccclure to provide the summary

[28:37] information for you all as well, right?

[28:39] So, it' be the same info and we we're

[28:42] happy to give it. I don't have that yet.

[28:44] those of us who have shallower lives

[28:46] that watch our each other's meetings and

[28:48] stuff, right, are up to are up to speed

[28:51] on the water stuff, you know, and and so

[28:54] um

[28:54] >> is that can we post that on our town

[28:57] website? Water information uh you know,

[29:00] a summary and with dates for each

[29:04] update. That way anybody from either

[29:06] town can quickly go on and find it.

[29:08] >> Yeah. So we have

[29:10] >> we haven't had anything recent, you

[29:12] know, but that would be the type of

[29:13] information that would go on the section

[29:15] of the website that we have a ton of

[29:17] water information

[29:19] >> currently you know but I don't have the

[29:21] summary of the latest pilot test

[29:24] >> right

[29:24] >> data which is voluminous

[29:28] >> right there's a lot

[29:30] >> summary because they're testing here

[29:31] there everywhere every day you know to

[29:35] be compliant yeah I mean they're still

[29:36] they're testing actual part the the

[29:38] water that's being trucked in as well,

[29:39] right? I mean, through different

[29:41] >> They did previously.

[29:42] >> Yeah. So, it's it's so it's there's a

[29:45] lot of

[29:45] >> It was skewed, but it's we're past that

[29:47] now, right?

[29:47] >> We are. We are. It's not local.

[29:49] >> You're on the pilot plan. you you may be

[29:51] drilling a new well, you may not.

[29:52] There's a lot of things in that. So it's

[29:55] >> it's um

[29:56] >> but I wanted a summary from Mccclure

[29:58] which addressed some of the things that

[30:00] you know uh we're Kristen updated

[30:03] earlier you know that says hey we're

[30:06] >> we're dealing with D on the location of

[30:08] this and the way we treat this and geez

[30:11] the you know we're tweaking the chlorine

[30:13] and

[30:14] >> PAS results are this and

[30:17] >> disinfection byproducts are this

[30:21] >> people should know you're also

[30:22] potentially getting ahead the PAS with

[30:24] this project.

[30:25] >> Oh, I think so. Yeah, for sure.

[30:27] >> We just did a $10 million water

[30:30] filtration system and it's we're

[30:32] probably going to have to put another

[30:33] four or five into that to deal with the

[30:36] upcoming PAS regulations.

[30:38] >> I have to start selling lemonade over

[30:39] there in Blackstone.

[30:40] >> Have to do something. So,

[30:42] >> well, thank you for coming.

[30:43] >> All right. All right. Thank you for

[30:44] having me.

[30:45] >> Thank you.

[30:45] >> Have a good evening. I promised I

[30:47] wouldn't have you waiting.

[30:48] >> No, thank you.

[30:51] >> That door is locked, by the way.

[30:53] Sorry.

[30:54] >> But that wasn't

[30:56] >> that was

[30:56] >> that wasn't that was

[30:57] >> that's usually bad.

[30:58] >> Really?

[30:58] >> You know what? Security we it's high

[31:00] priority here. So,

[31:02] >> thank you. Have a good night.

[31:03] >> Thank you.

[31:06] >> All right. Back to the old town hall.

[31:08] >> Yes. So, there's still repairs uh going

[31:10] on there. There's painting. There's

[31:12] flooring upgrades. There's stuff like

[31:15] that.

[31:15] >> So, just to clarify, my joke about the

[31:17] assessor's office was tongue and cheek.

[31:18] not to be taken seriously, but I I

[31:20] assure that Maggie has a planagram. I

[31:22] have not taken uh I haven't looked at

[31:24] it.

[31:25] >> So,

[31:25] >> I just want to make sure that the people

[31:27] who have space, you know, if they have

[31:30] five file cabinets here or four

[31:34] cupboards and a desk and I

[31:36] >> Yeah,

[31:37] >> that's going to be difficult to

[31:40] >> So, we think we

[31:40] >> to to match. And if we do have to

[31:43] downsize, then we should be downsizing

[31:45] through everybody and not expecting one

[31:48] or two departments to significantly

[31:50] decrease their square footage.

[31:53] >> Yeah. So, I don't think we're

[31:54] necessarily doing that.

[31:58] >> Tim disagrees.

[32:00] >> I hear.

[32:02] So, um, and we have movers that have

[32:06] disassembled a row,

[32:08] >> the planner and the assessor's row

[32:10] >> to put into the big open space to make

[32:14] sure it's in the right spot and we have

[32:16] the right number of rows and the right

[32:18] persons assigned to the spots in that

[32:22] space. And I think we're pretty good in

[32:23] terms of of that. Um, and then

[32:27] separately we have some others that it

[32:29] will only be the first floor that's open

[32:31] because we have yet to get the elevator

[32:34] sorted out in terms of what needs to be

[32:36] done to get that operating. So, the

[32:39] public will only have access to the

[32:41] first floor.

[32:43] >> There may be some other spots up uh you

[32:47] know that folks will be upstairs for

[32:49] example. Um,

[32:50] >> what what's going on with the elevator?

[32:52] I has anybody called an elevator?

[32:56] >> We have Otis elevator come in I think

[32:58] it's this week to

[32:59] >> Thursday to see about uh what's going to

[33:02] be involved in

[33:03] >> reactivating that.

[33:05] >> Yeah.

[33:05] >> And that

[33:06] >> we may find that that's pretty expensive

[33:08] or it's not. We we don't know that yet.

[33:11] Right. And if it's pretty expensive then

[33:14] that's a future funding challenge for

[33:17] the town. We're trying to do what we can

[33:19] within essentially 400 grand that we

[33:22] have available for this project and

[33:25] we're we're doing that with what we've

[33:26] got. Um

[33:28] >> where are we within the scope of the

[33:30] project? Where are we financially in

[33:34] that 400 400,000?

[33:35] >> So we have about I'm going to say 50

[33:38] grand left to play with which we think

[33:40] will cover some of the moving costs.

[33:42] We'll cover some of the technology

[33:45] connections and things like that. I

[33:46] think it's 50 grand. I'm just

[33:48] ballparking based on what we've probably

[33:50] incurred from what we have. Um, so

[33:54] again, there's repairs being done. You

[33:56] know, Joe was in there three days this

[33:58] weekend doing a lot of like flooring and

[34:01] some uh, you know, final painting and

[34:04] things like that.

[34:05] >> I think we owe him a great

[34:07] >> I keep telling him his name should go on

[34:09] that building. He's unbelievable.

[34:10] >> Really? If it wasn't for him, it it

[34:13] never it would have been trashed.

[34:15] >> Yeah. know

[34:15] >> I mean it was really falling apart

[34:17] literally.

[34:18] >> Yeah. So it's uh so we're you know where

[34:22] the you know the number of connections

[34:25] coming out of the ceiling drops for

[34:28] connecting someone's computer someone's

[34:30] phone someone's printer that sort of

[34:32] thing remains to you know still being

[34:35] worked out with the the proper folks uh

[34:37] including our Jack our electrical

[34:41] inspector who's done some of the work so

[34:43] far. So then there's a deep clean. Um we were over there today and we've

[34:49] decided some of the rugs that we were

[34:52] hoping to live with, we probably would

[34:54] be better to put down some sort of

[34:57] flooring, remove the rugs, put some

[34:59] flooring down. It's it's fairly

[35:02] inexpensive money that gives, you know,

[35:05] gives the the place a bit a good look.

[35:07] you know, the the ladies were not

[35:10] thrilled with the way the lady's

[35:12] restroom was. That's now been sorted

[35:15] out, and so I think it gets the

[35:17] >> at least it gets the Maggie seal of

[35:20] approval, which is important. Um

[35:24] >> um to circle back on the right size

[35:27] office space for individuals.

[35:30] >> Um

[35:32] I don't want I want to make sure moving

[35:34] forward through this that we're not

[35:36] marginalizing any individual that

[35:39] everybody has enough space for all their

[35:41] equipment. And um are you finding any

[35:44] challenges with that? Because I Hey Joe,

[35:48] I am kind of concerned with just

[35:52] everybody's got the ability to function.

[35:54] Well, I I know it's it's an old

[35:56] building, so it's not uh it's like it's

[35:59] not going to be, you know, a square hole

[36:01] in a round peg type thing.

[36:03] >> Well, it's going to require folks to

[36:05] have some flexibility and some of the

[36:09] things will be sorted out even when we

[36:12] get in there because we just,

[36:14] >> you know, there's just so many

[36:15] unforeseen things. But I think it it's

[36:18] nearly ready for things to start moving

[36:21] in. Folks have been starting to pack

[36:23] things and um you know that's all good.

[36:27] Uh great work. Again, Joe working his

[36:31] tail off.

[36:31] >> Peter, if somebody is having a problem,

[36:33] would you keep the entire board a breast

[36:35] of that and the details of it so

[36:38] >> you know we can at least be considerate

[36:40] and and responsive if if we have the

[36:43] ability to do so. Um and and help

[36:48] comfortable.

[36:48] >> Yeah, I think Maggie's got a planagram

[36:50] that she's been working on. Is that

[36:51] correct?

[36:52] >> It's in process. Changes every day. But

[36:55] yes, that's the idea. We're working on

[36:56] trying to identify exactly where

[36:58] everyone's going to be located. And

[37:00] >> um I think every time we look at it, we

[37:02] make a few tweaks to it, but until we

[37:04] start getting the furniture in there, I

[37:06] think it's hard to really get a sense of

[37:08] the space. But we're we're making

[37:10] progress for sure. lots of file

[37:12] cabinets, you know, and where they're

[37:13] located,

[37:14] >> things like that.

[37:15] >> Are we using that basement ground floor

[37:18] as well or

[37:19] >> right now? No.

[37:20] >> Okay. So, is that going to be future

[37:24] space for town hall employees or

[37:26] >> So, the intent of that space was for the

[37:28] police department satellite operation

[37:30] with ladies facilities, you know, female

[37:33] facilities and so forth, but that's not

[37:36] part of the funding that we have

[37:38] available to do what we're doing right

[37:39] now. So, Folks might have to come back

[37:42] uh you know come back to

[37:44] >> revisit that. Exactly. You know, we're

[37:46] going to put in right now it has uh

[37:48] we're going to need to get some air

[37:50] condition window air conditioning units

[37:53] um for the time being. Um

[37:56] I don't know what else there is. Again,

[37:58] Joe's

[37:59] >> Oh, I had one final question. I'm so

[38:01] sorry. That's all right.

[38:03] >> There had been a big room to the right

[38:05] at the top of the stairs and on the

[38:08] second floor of course and um I remember

[38:11] a long time ago um our historian Mr.

[38:14] Berthallet had said he'd really like

[38:16] that room to be able to make a like a

[38:20] mini museum. Yeah. With displays and

[38:23] >> he was asking me.

[38:24] >> Is that still a possibility? I haven't

[38:26] talked to him in years.

[38:27] >> So that's not ready for move in for

[38:28] that. Right. Okay. Okay. But that

[38:30] because that there's still some work

[38:31] that needs to happen with the ceilings

[38:33] and that sort of thing. But that's where

[38:35] the structural repairs for the roof were

[38:38] >> done. Okay. And that is the whole the

[38:41] game plan to have, you know, the

[38:43] displays and so forth along the lines of

[38:45] the museum. Separately up there is a

[38:47] room

[38:49] probably twothirds of the size of this

[38:51] room which is like a training room or

[38:53] meeting room. that's, you know, uh

[38:57] there's no real plan for that other than

[38:59] that's a great space to use for training

[39:02] or meeting and so forth. So, uh but

[39:05] again, not for the public at this stage

[39:08] because we don't have the elevator

[39:10] >> elevator. Peter, I hope

[39:12] >> can can we stop this? Can we ask Tim? He

[39:14] seems to have some commentary. So, do we

[39:16] want to include him in this conversation

[39:19] >> because um my patience is starting to

[39:20] wear thin.

[39:22] >> It's about out. I'll

[39:23] >> stop. I promise.

[39:25] Okay.

[39:26] >> Okay.

[39:26] >> Because if you got something to say,

[39:27] we're more than welcome.

[39:28] >> I emailed you all.

[39:29] >> You emailed us all.

[39:31] >> Yep.

[39:32] >> Okay.

[39:32] >> No response.

[39:34] >> Well, we're in the middle of

[39:35] discussions.

[39:37] So,

[39:38] >> okay.

[39:38] >> Well, I just heard.

[39:40] >> Okay. So, um I'm glad that the elevator

[39:43] is going to be dealt with. I I would

[39:45] like to see handicap accessible

[39:47] throughout the whole building. I think

[39:48] that's essential. and that one space you

[39:51] said uh that's like a meeting room

[39:53] that's a little bit bigger. I I hope

[39:56] that you and Maggie in your

[39:57] consideration of space if anybody does

[40:00] feel that they're not able to fully

[40:02] function within the space they're

[40:04] allotted that perhaps that or a portion

[40:07] of that space could be considered um for

[40:10] their use because I I really don't want

[40:12] to see people marginalized.

[40:13] >> I understand that. I don't think there's

[40:15] any intent of that. Uh there are, you

[40:17] know, there are also offices up there

[40:19] and semi cubicles outside those offices

[40:22] which are actually great spaces, but

[40:25] again not open to the public. Okay.

[40:27] >> Correct. Yeah.

[40:28] >> Um separately the window grant, right?

[40:31] We're we've been back and forth with the

[40:34] folks on that thing.

[40:36] >> Do you need help with Gloria on that?

[40:38] >> Well, so here's where they're at. Okay.

[40:40] Um they um we went out to bid twice on

[40:45] that thing and got no response. We've

[40:48] >> solicited chase people down. No

[40:50] response. They've come back and said we

[40:53] could, you know, hey, we thought, hey,

[40:55] what if we just bought the windows?

[40:57] Because nobody really wanted the 50

[40:59] grand project of windows and

[41:02] installation, you know, using under

[41:04] prevailing wages. So, we asked about

[41:08] buying the windows and installing them

[41:11] ourselves at our leisure, right?

[41:13] >> Mhm.

[41:14] >> And

[41:16] they came back with the caveat that the

[41:18] if you install yourselves, you still got

[41:22] to follow prevailing wages. Now, we

[41:24] haven't closed the loop on that because

[41:25] I would object to that. I haven't yet.

[41:28] Uh but anyway, our deadline they you

[41:31] know we look for an exp extension

[41:33] that's

[41:35] it it may not get us to where we need to

[41:37] be.

[41:38] >> Can I ask you because I I understand the

[41:40] grant in what I wrote. So within it we

[41:44] talked about the efficiency of a triple

[41:47] glaze.

[41:48] >> It did not the grant did not then

[41:50] dictate that those windows had to be

[41:52] triple glazed. we

[41:53] >> you it would still meet, you know,

[41:57] because we were talking about wind

[41:58] flection and everything else and and

[42:00] super efficiency. It still would be a

[42:02] much better envelope if we had which is

[42:05] fairly standard, a double glaze.

[42:08] >> Um, is that what you're going out to

[42:09] bid, a double or a triple?

[42:10] >> No, triple. Because they would only let

[42:13] us do the triple. We asked repeatedly,

[42:15] >> do you want me to talk to them to try to

[42:18] explain because they had trouble

[42:20] understanding the physics behind the

[42:22] windshare and the glass flexion for seal

[42:26] and and efficiency and I had to explain

[42:29] all that to them and the calculations.

[42:31] >> I would be more than glad if you need

[42:33] assistance to explain it to them again.

[42:36] >> Okay.

[42:37] >> And that it's not necessary. We're the

[42:39] triple the triple glaze is really for

[42:42] scenarios. We are not in Alaska. We are

[42:44] not high on a mountain. This is not

[42:47] Mount Washington. Um we are not on the

[42:49] shoreline. Uh those are for different

[42:52] scenarios. And yes, I did use those

[42:54] calculations to talk about efficiency,

[42:57] but it it's not what's governing this

[43:01] and and the essence of this and and what

[43:03] would make the most.

[43:04] >> Right. So I the only other thing I'll

[43:06] say I your help certainly is welcome. Um

[43:09] I don't again because of the time frames

[43:12] that were you know we've tried and tried without success and we tried

[43:17] to get it removed from the triple pane

[43:20] requirement. Couldn't do it. Um the only

[43:24] other thing I'll say is if you look at

[43:25] the windows they're actually pretty darn

[43:27] good that are there. They've have been

[43:29] replaced at some time in the past.

[43:31] They're not perfect but they have been

[43:33] replaced and they're double pained and

[43:35] you know that sort of thing. You know,

[43:38] Joe could probably talk better on the

[43:39] windows than I can, but that's my

[43:42] layman's approach is we're running out

[43:45] of time on the grant. They won't extend

[43:47] beyond the end of July. Our focus is on

[43:51] getting out of here and in there and the

[43:54] landlord's allowing us

[43:57] through July, which is really wonderful.

[43:59] Okay.

[44:00] >> Um July 1st.

[44:02] >> July 31st. Okay.

[44:04] >> So, that's great because you know there

[44:06] still is work to be done. Sure.

[44:07] >> So, I I ask again, Peter, Richard, do

[44:12] you want me to reach out to Gloria at

[44:14] the state and talk to them about the

[44:16] grant and try to find a a better

[44:18] scenario if possible? I don't know. You

[44:21] know, it's it's worth a shot since you

[44:23] >> I think it's worth a shot. Absolutely.

[44:25] From my perspective.

[44:25] >> If you guys are okay with me doing that.

[44:27] >> Is that all right, Jen?

[44:28] >> Yep.

[44:29] >> Okay,

[44:30] >> that'd be great.

[44:31] >> Then I'll do that.

[44:31] >> Fantastic. Yeah. So, uh, just to kind of

[44:34] close us out, my only other comment was

[44:36] I know that the assessors have been

[44:38] talking about some sort of a mainframe

[44:39] or computer or cloud. Did that get

[44:42] resolved?

[44:42] >> Yes. So, we're on the cloud and but

[44:45] we're also as part of our technology in

[44:48] the town meeting vote.

[44:49] >> We're getting a new server, right? So,

[44:51] it's upgraded. It's

[44:53] >> not 10 12 years old or whatever.

[44:55] >> And you have space for it in this

[44:56] building.

[44:57] >> Well, there's a lot of space in that

[44:59] building. And yes, we do. Yeah.

[45:00] >> Okay.

[45:01] So, I just want to make sure you

[45:02] have enough room wherever it's going to

[45:04] go. So, all right.

[45:06] >> We have more space than we truly need,

[45:07] you know, for the number of people.

[45:10] >> I trust you. I trust Maggie's judgment.

[45:11] I'm sure she's got a plan. Not putting

[45:13] you on the carpet, but I'm sure there's

[45:14] a planagram here somewhere and you guys

[45:15] are still working through it. So,

[45:16] >> with accessible

[45:19] >> space.

[45:19] >> Yeah.

[45:20] >> Like you can't So, I'll just go on the

[45:22] record. I will never drop a dime beyond

[45:25] whatever whatever that grant is. Okay. I

[45:29] totally disagree with the move back

[45:30] there. I was part of the board that that

[45:33] closed that down. Um the report, I don't

[45:36] know if the report was ever seen, but

[45:38] there's a stream that runs underneath

[45:40] the town hall and that's why the

[45:42] basement has had history of black mold

[45:44] has been remedied years and years of

[45:48] documents that was stored there. Um MIMA

[45:50] used to be down there. they removed

[45:52] their technology because of the

[45:53] moisture. Um, the amount of

[45:56] dehumidifiers over the years that have

[45:58] been there, there was dehumidifiers

[45:59] there in 1970 when I had speech down in

[46:03] that back room. So, this is an ongoing

[46:06] issue. Um, accessibility to the third

[46:09] floor, air conditioning units. It's not

[46:12] like you can say, "I'm going to go work

[46:14] in my office on the second floor and put

[46:15] an AC on and have it cool." that room.

[46:19] Those rooms take numerous hours to cool

[46:22] down. I don't believe in the move back

[46:25] there. I I think the town should have

[46:27] looked for other alternatives. Um I will

[46:30] support everything going forward as part

[46:32] of my responsibility.

[46:34] >> But beyond a grant to fix anything, you

[46:36] will always get a no vote from me. I

[46:38] don't believe that we belong in that

[46:40] building. I don't think our staff should

[46:42] be in that building. I don't think it

[46:45] meets the needs of our community. and

[46:47] are operating daytoday. Um, so you know,

[46:52] I sit here listening.

[46:53] >> You know, that's a really some really

[46:55] good comments. Can you give us all the

[46:57] paperwork for that orile?

[46:59] >> Yeah, direct Peter as to where to find

[47:01] that paperwork and we like to review it.

[47:03] I don't want to just talk about things

[47:06] that we think or heard. I want to report

[47:09] Nope. Great. I want to see the actual

[47:11] reports. Peter, would you work with her

[47:13] to find those reports? Maybe she can

[47:15] give you some guidance.

[47:15] >> We'll see what we can find. Yeah, that

[47:17] would be

[47:17] >> When did we move out of there anyways?

[47:20] >> Uh 17

[47:23] years. So we're almost Yeah, I think I'm

[47:25] on 10 years. Yeah.

[47:26] >> Okay. 10 years. 16.

[47:27] >> Um do do we want any commentary from Joe

[47:30] since I see you sitting here?

[47:31] >> Might be helpful.

[47:31] >> Sir, would you mind coming up? Do you

[47:33] have any feedback?

[47:35] >> Yeah. And Peter, I think um Jerry Finn

[47:36] was on that committee.

[47:38] >> Well, you guys did the study.

[47:40] >> Thank you for coming in.

[47:42] >> You might remember the exact dates. So,

[47:44] you heard some concerns about

[47:46] underground rivers and moisture and and

[47:48] you have been the special municipal

[47:50] employee here overseeing that and thank

[47:52] you for doing that.

[47:53] >> So, very much so.

[47:54] >> Part of the problem down there, the

[47:55] moisture was coming up from the where

[47:57] you have a hand dug

[47:59] section of that cellar.

[48:01] >> Okay. Since we fixed the floor, what I

[48:03] had them do is encapsulate that in

[48:05] plastic. So, your moisture level that

[48:08] used to be there dropped dramatically.

[48:11] Okay.

[48:11] >> Okay. I put a commercial I know there

[48:13] was dehumidifiers I seen them all over.

[48:15] I put a commercial one in there and I

[48:17] had to sell it down to 50% humidity. So

[48:21] to get that out of there my suggestion

[48:23] would be to put a air exchanger in that

[48:25] basement exchange air and get it moving

[48:28] and I think it's going to take a lot of thing. I couldn't find a stream

[48:32] that's there is a if you go in the back

[48:34] of that wall down the back where the

[48:36] kiln is.

[48:37] >> Somebody made a French drain or

[48:40] something. There's a sump back there.

[48:42] >> So sump pump's not even working. So it's

[48:44] like you might as well not even bother

[48:46] having it if it's not going to be

[48:47] >> functional. So if that's where the

[48:50] water's coming from, but be honest with

[48:51] you, I try to find a stream they're

[48:53] talking about. I know that the gut is

[48:55] coming down. They got to be rerooed at

[48:57] the bottom. Put longer pipes, get it so

[48:59] it doesn't drain next to the granite

[49:00] foundation. That's going to help a lot,

[49:03] you know, but it's just small stuff like

[49:04] that. I think you're going to get a lot

[49:06] of improvements on it.

[49:08] >> Okay. Like I said, when we looked at the

[49:10] building, there was no other options and

[49:11] you guys had to leave here. So, you were

[49:13] kind of like in a rock and a hard place.

[49:15] >> So, it sounds like there's some things

[49:16] here that we can get still get fixed.

[49:17] >> Mitigate the issues. Yes.

[49:19] >> Sure. Well, it sounds like you already

[49:21] did quite a bit to fix the issue.

[49:23] >> Well, like I said, it's it's an ongoing

[49:25] project. I mean, you

[49:26] >> It's a mountain. You've climbed that

[49:27] mountain.

[49:27] >> You'll get it. Thank you.

[49:28] >> You know, I mean, you just got to stay

[49:30] with it. You can't let the building just

[49:32] go deep under carry. You know, no

[49:34] maintenance on it. That's the worst

[49:36] enemy.

[49:37] >> It's had a good life. It should have

[49:38] been torn down.

[49:39] >> That's my opinion.

[49:41] >> Yeah.

[49:42] >> Well, I thought the same, but after

[49:44] talking to you years ago,

[49:47] >> engineer through the house,

[49:48] >> he seemed to know better.

[49:49] >> Go through the building.

[49:51] >> Here's what you don't, you know, you

[49:53] don't have to rip it down.

[49:55] >> And the problem that you had there, they

[49:56] saying rip it down. Okay. But you got to

[49:58] remember everything there and the fire

[50:00] department are all tied together.

[50:02] >> So the water comes out of the police

[50:04] department. The water comes out of there

[50:06] to do that. the sewer. I would imagine

[50:09] it's hooked in there somehow. So, that's

[50:11] another consideration you got to look

[50:12] at. It's like even if you were to sell

[50:14] the building,

[50:15] >> how do you cut those services now?

[50:17] >> So,

[50:19] >> yeah.

[50:19] >> I mean, that's something that, you know,

[50:22] >> Well, thank you very much for your hard

[50:23] work.

[50:25] >> Couldn't have done it without Joe. It

[50:26] was unbelievable. I think you really

[50:28] ought to think about naming it after

[50:29] him.

[50:30] >> I think we should.

[50:31] >> He's like the I want the new building

[50:32] after this, not this one.

[50:34] >> I think we definitely should. And I did

[50:36] look at the report that was out there

[50:37] and this they wanted $2.5 million to do

[50:40] renovations on it. They want to change

[50:41] the floor space inside

[50:42] >> 10 year old money

[50:43] >> and then they were going to do5 $5

[50:45] million to build you a new one

[50:47] >> and then I looked at the report the

[50:49] state did

[50:50] >> and I'm saying I looked at it in the

[50:52] beginning and I said this is not a big

[50:54] deal you know.

[50:56] >> Okay.

[50:57] >> I mean I've done this stuff for a lot of

[50:59] years so I I look at things different

[51:00] from other people. So

[51:02] >> we love you. That's just my uh

[51:05] >> I don't take away from the efforts that

[51:06] have been put forth by everyone trying

[51:08] to make this happen. I just wouldn't

[51:10] have voted in that that manner.

[51:12] >> Well, we're kind of past all that now

[51:14] and it sounds like you've overcome the

[51:16] issues in

[51:17] >> uh and it's it is impressive.

[51:20] >> It is absolutely impressive and I think

[51:23] we all very much appreciate you.

[51:25] >> Thank you.

[51:26] >> Extraordinary.

[51:29] >> We appreciate it.

[51:30] >> Thanks, Joe.

[51:31] >> Thank you, Joe. Thank you for stopping

[51:32] by even though you weren't planning on

[51:34] speaking.

[51:35] >> Yeah, I fig I'd stop and see what's

[51:36] going on. Well,

[51:38] >> could

[51:38] >> when you get closer to the end on that

[51:40] floor space and and plans, can

[51:44] >> we have a a glance at it?

[51:46] >> Sure.

[51:54] » I

[51:59] » not that. So for you to mark up

[52:02] But you already have a good

[52:04] >> Yeah,

[52:05] >> we were talking about a planagram.

[52:06] Everybody all the assignments in the

[52:07] room.

[52:08] >> This was a layout of a building.

[52:10] >> So then you plug in what you want.

[52:12] >> Yeah.

[52:13] >> We give you scales.

[52:16] >> Okay. Good. Have we killed that? We're

[52:18] good.

[52:18] >> I think we're good.

[52:19] >> All right. Mees generator repair

[52:21] replacement. So this is something that

[52:22] we asked Peter for a month ago. He has

[52:25] delivered. This is basically a scope of

[52:26] work for repair replacement for the

[52:28] generator um at the elementary school.

[52:31] So hoping to go out and publish this and

[52:34] see what we get.

[52:35] >> That's right. So we and it's a

[52:36] solicitation because it's a school

[52:38] building and the range is 10 to 100

[52:41] grand. So you solicit three.

[52:43] >> We're going to go Yep. Okay.

[52:45] >> And where do you post this?

[52:47] >> And so we don't even have to post it. We

[52:49] just But it will be on like this is

[52:51] >> right

[52:52] >> almost finalized draft, right? It needs

[52:54] a little tweaking.

[52:55] >> Are you sending this to companies?

[52:57] >> So, we'll send it out. We'll be chasing

[52:58] folks down for this. Yeah.

[53:00] >> And you have a lead. You do have a lead

[53:01] from Mr. Keef.

[53:02] >> We do.

[53:02] >> For us, we do.

[53:04] >> Yeah. We have had some, you know, a

[53:05] couple of people in one group came in.

[53:08] We have yet to hear back from them who

[53:10] looked at all of the options, including

[53:12] replace.

[53:13] >> Um, separately. Last week, we put in,

[53:16] it's still being tweaked a little bit

[53:17] right now, uh, for basically a FEMA

[53:20] grant for the full replacement of the

[53:22] generator. We worked with CMRPC on that.

[53:26] um went in last week. It will be

[53:30] two years before that ultimately is

[53:32] realized, but there's a good shot at. So

[53:33] the repair really makes sense. Repair,

[53:36] replace of the generating piece. And

[53:38] this was crafted up for me by Jack

[53:41] Granga, who actually is in the business.

[53:44] Okay. And I keep asking him if he would

[53:47] bid on this thing himself. Um but

[53:51] I'm not sure he wants to do that. He's

[53:53] our electrical inspector, but he's a

[53:55] generator expert, right? And so he did

[53:58] review, you know, he went in there,

[53:59] looked at the machine, and helped with

[54:01] this based on the specs of what we're

[54:03] looking to do. So,

[54:04] >> perfect. Thank you. So, do you do you

[54:05] know when you'll have a final draft and

[54:06] ready to go?

[54:07] >> Yeah, I think we're going to try to get

[54:08] that out between now and next week.

[54:10] >> Now, when the school closes, do we know

[54:13] if they're returning the rental or if

[54:15] they're going to going to continue in

[54:17] >> I don't know that. I haven't I haven't

[54:19] heard. Is the reverberator tower still

[54:22] reliant on that backup generator or has

[54:25] that received its own backup generator?

[54:27] >> Oh, it is. So, that was part of this

[54:29] grant that we did for FEMA, right, to

[54:31] help sell it, if you will, right? Is

[54:33] that the new uh communication tower is

[54:37] dependent because it's hooked into the

[54:38] school electricity as is the fire

[54:41] department's 60,000galon

[54:44] water tank, fire suppression for the

[54:47] school.

[54:47] >> So, we can't really And I would assume

[54:51] we can't end that rental until we have a

[54:55] repair andor replacement.

[54:57] >> Just have to be aware that that's $5,000

[54:59] per month.

[55:00] >> 6,000. Yeah.

[55:01] >> Yeah. Yeah. And it's Yeah. Mas is also

[55:04] our um

[55:06] >> emergency shelter for school and so

[55:08] therefore having water running and

[55:10] things of that sort if

[55:11] >> you know tornado, bad storm, trees,

[55:13] whatever, whatever.

[55:14] >> Yeah.

[55:15] >> So hopefully we'll get this sorted out

[55:17] and out there. So, this will go out in

[55:18] the next couple weeks.

[55:20] >> Yeah. Within the next week or two. Yep.

[55:22] >> All right.

[55:23] >> And would you mind sending me a link to

[55:25] this posting so I can

[55:25] >> I sure will.

[55:26] >> I just want to share with Dan. Make sure

[55:27] everybody's on on board.

[55:28] >> Yes.

[55:29] >> All right. Great.

[55:32] Departments. Uh Joe, do you have

[55:34] anything you want to add or you're good?

[55:36] >> I got nothing. You guys are good. Okay.

[55:38] Public forum. Don't all stand up at

[55:41] once.

[55:41] >> I know.

[55:42] >> Okay. Announcements.

[55:44] >> Uh just uh let's see. Library. Um,

[55:47] what's our date? The 15th. So, Wednesday

[55:50] this week, June 17th at 4:30 p.m.

[55:52] Creative Club at the library. Thursday,

[55:54] June 25th at 6:30 p.m. book club

[55:57] meeting. Saturday, June 27th,

[56:00] Renaissance Jazz Trio Concert. Um,

[56:03] senior center. Um, Thursday they have

[56:08] five wishes. Aging with dignity,

[56:10] advanced care planning, a lunch for

[56:12] three bucks, and a COA meeting. Um they

[56:15] have on Tuesdays line dance pitch and

[56:18] chair yoga hand knee and foot cards on

[56:21] next Wednesday. Uh next Thursday the

[56:24] 25th they have a movie remark remarkably

[56:26] bright creatures lunch three bucks and

[56:29] June birthday celebrations. On Monday

[56:32] the 29th they have a craft class at

[56:34] 10:00 a.m. And also on Tuesday besides

[56:37] line dance pitch is at 1:00 Tina's

[56:41] retirement party. Ah,

[56:43] >> so

[56:44] >> what was the date on the retirement

[56:45] party?

[56:45] >> That's the 30th,

[56:47] >> Tuesday.

[56:48] >> Okay,

[56:50] >> cool.

[56:51] >> All right.

[56:52] >> Um, correspondence.

[56:54] >> Yeah, I was already You had that in the

[56:56] MSBA thing. Yep.

[56:57] >> Yeah. All right. Uh, minutes.

[57:00] >> Uh, I have I'm told three drafts coming

[57:03] quickly here, but I don't have them yet.

[57:05] Okay.

[57:05] >> Selectment reports.

[57:08] >> So, I just have a couple items. Uh, town

[57:10] report.

[57:12] booklet. Is that available online or

[57:14] >> only online?

[57:15] Okay. Thank you.

[57:16] >> Stop publishing it. Yeah.

[57:17] >> Took that Yeah. budget away.

[57:20] >> Um that $500.

[57:22] >> Yes.

[57:22] >> Yeah. Okay. Um

[57:26] also, um on Saturday, the library

[57:29] celebrated their 40th. Um you were

[57:31] there. I was there.

[57:32] >> I gave out a hug.

[57:33] >> Oh, well, you're better than me. I'm

[57:35] more like a cactus.

[57:36] >> Couple couple handshakes, but I did give

[57:38] out a hug. So, it was a very nice

[57:40] >> Yeah,

[57:40] >> very nice. It was a very nice event. Um

[57:43] they did a very nice job with it and

[57:45] it's nice to see that that department um

[57:48] and the dedication of those members over

[57:50] the years um how deep they go. So I was

[57:53] it was a great celebratory event um

[57:56] >> and it was well attended.

[57:58] Um also just on my part um over the next

[58:02] couple weeks month I'm going to just

[58:04] make myself available to be attending um

[58:06] board and department meetings. I'll be

[58:08] having um some office hours here at the

[58:10] town hall so that if any staff people

[58:13] want to just come to talk to me. If

[58:15] general public wants to talk to me, I'll

[58:16] have some hours here. I'll have some at

[58:18] the library. Um I've done this in the

[58:20] past. Sometimes I have people, sometimes

[58:22] I don't, but it's good that people have

[58:23] a place that they can go and talk face

[58:25] to face with someone. Um so I'll be

[58:28] putting those out and I'll let you know,

[58:30] too. Um but it's just something I've

[58:32] done in the past and I now that my

[58:34] school year is wrapping up and I have

[58:36] some time on my plate. Um, I'll be

[58:38] putting those out there for people. So,

[58:40] that's it.

[58:42] >> Cool.

[58:44] >> Uh, town administrative report.

[58:47] >> You, you two are all set. You're all

[58:49] set. Yeah.

[58:50] >> Uh, the only thing I wanted to say is

[58:52] that in future meetings, I think we

[58:54] should reuse the podium again for people

[58:57] from the audience who want to come up

[58:58] and talk. I think that was a great way

[59:01] of doing things because at that point

[59:04] they always used to say their name which

[59:07] helps for people at home with continuity

[59:09] or anybody writing minutes and they

[59:12] could just say they live in town

[59:13] although they don't need to get into

[59:15] their full address or anything but that

[59:17] was my thought that we should implement

[59:19] that again so people start following

[59:22] better procedures instead of we've had

[59:25] some meetings where we have a number of

[59:26] people talking from the audience and

[59:28] they have really good points points

[59:29] they're trying to raise.

[59:31] >> I just I think people at home really

[59:33] need to hear it in detail.

[59:35] >> Sure. Yeah. Yeah. For this session here,

[59:37] we didn't have any residents. So,

[59:38] >> no, not this time, but in the future,

[59:40] I'd like to do that. Would that be okay

[59:42] with the board? Does anybody object to

[59:44] that?

[59:45] >> We can try it. I think

[59:47] >> sitting round table gives a a feel of

[59:49] collaboration and equaleness and

[59:52] >> um it takes away a little bit of the

[59:53] formality. Um, but I mean the old town

[59:56] hall, if we're back there and we're

[59:57] using the old selectman table, it comes

[1:00:00] with the podium. Um, and that's how you

[1:00:02] talk because you don't have this uh

[1:00:03] round table type thing. So,

[1:00:04] >> right,

[1:00:05] >> I don't have a problem trying it and

[1:00:06] seeing what the people who come to the

[1:00:08] meeting, what they like.

[1:00:08] >> Let's do it.

[1:00:09] >> Okay, great.

[1:00:12] >> Um,

[1:00:14] so I had one thought on Jen's comment

[1:00:17] about office hours. just a procedural

[1:00:19] and I'm not opposed to the idea, but

[1:00:21] procedurally

[1:00:22] >> doesn't everything get routed through

[1:00:24] the town administrator and then from

[1:00:26] there doesn't the board direct the town

[1:00:28] administrator. So,

[1:00:29] >> well, how many times have you been

[1:00:31] contacted through somebody in town that

[1:00:33] says, "Hey, can you do something about

[1:00:34] this?" This just gives them a place to

[1:00:36] do that.

[1:00:37] >> Those things are always followed up with

[1:00:38] an email and like I spoke to this person

[1:00:40] about this topic and blah blah blah. And

[1:00:42] those things do come back. It's not it's

[1:00:44] just a manner of which to be able to sit

[1:00:46] and talk to people rather than being

[1:00:47] caught at my kids, you know, school

[1:00:50] event or being caught at, you know, the

[1:00:52] library event to talk policy and

[1:00:54] procedure. It just gives an open space.

[1:00:56] >> Peter is the HR person for the staff and you you can't be fielding that kind

[1:01:02] of

[1:01:04] >> you you shouldn't that's pet I am I

[1:01:07] wrong Peter? I mean you are essential

[1:01:09] things.

[1:01:11] >> Yeah. I mean so

[1:01:12] >> why are you fielding that?

[1:01:13] >> Yeah. So for procedural I

[1:01:15] >> asked

[1:01:17] um you should ref

[1:01:18] >> so the way I would they do come back

[1:01:20] advise you is that you're going to

[1:01:24] readopt the policies and procedures and

[1:01:26] in that it's very clear how it works. So

[1:01:29] even if one of you is talking to a

[1:01:32] member of the staff

[1:01:33] >> you you can't direct them. You can

[1:01:35] respond to them but you still got to go

[1:01:37] through the town administrator right

[1:01:40] >> and keep the person informed. So I mean

[1:01:42] I would say that's

[1:01:43] >> a manner in which I go to them and I'm

[1:01:45] directing them. It's a manner in which

[1:01:47] if they feel comfortable with me that

[1:01:48] they can come and

[1:01:50] >> so

[1:01:50] >> let me know what's going on or or and

[1:01:53] then then I can act as a in between to

[1:01:56] bring that issue back to the forefront

[1:01:58] and deal with it without having staff

[1:02:00] people come to the front table before a

[1:02:02] whole board. Right.

[1:02:03] >> It really I mean it doesn't it's not it

[1:02:06] doesn't happen all the time but it does

[1:02:08] happen on occasion.

[1:02:09] >> Yeah. I I just I mean I I I I get why

[1:02:12] you're doing that. I just procedurally I

[1:02:14] was thinking that that might enable some

[1:02:16] staff and maybe some bad behavior where

[1:02:19] Peter is trying to address it and I

[1:02:21] don't want to give folks

[1:02:22] >> that would be a conversation I would say

[1:02:23] I had or an email saying I had a

[1:02:26] conversation and I want to do some

[1:02:27] followup on this topic

[1:02:28] >> just as I would with a a resident

[1:02:30] complaint which I have one

[1:02:32] >> because I was caught at the library

[1:02:34] event.

[1:02:35] So um so yeah it's just

[1:02:41] I'm not going to apologize for putting

[1:02:42] myself out there and having people have

[1:02:45] access to a selectman.

[1:02:47] >> Well, I was just questioning the

[1:02:48] procedurally, you know, the structure of

[1:02:50] having that.

[1:02:50] >> It's not like I'm making commitments.

[1:02:52] I'm just being there for an ear.

[1:02:54] >> No, I again, I was just asking

[1:02:56] procedurally how functions I've actually

[1:02:58] said, oh, there's mass general law or

[1:03:00] there's a town bylaw for that. So,

[1:03:02] really, we're within the

[1:03:04] >> it's within it. So before there's a

[1:03:06] complaint by a resident, they're already

[1:03:09] given the information, which I would do

[1:03:11] anyways. If they called me, if they

[1:03:12] caught me on the street, those are

[1:03:13] things I would do anyways and point them

[1:03:15] in the right direction.

[1:03:17] >> So it's not that I'm out there looking

[1:03:20] to tell people what to do. I'm actually

[1:03:22] there just to listen.

[1:03:25] >> So yeah, I was just asking procedurally.

[1:03:28] So items not reasonably anticipated 48

[1:03:31] hours prior to the meeting.

[1:03:32] >> I didn't do the town administrator

[1:03:33] report.

[1:03:33] >> Oh, I'm sorry. Sorry, I skipped right

[1:03:34] over you. I got so excited.

[1:03:36] >> All I have is one item. Okay. I had a

[1:03:38] metacomt meeting this morning. All

[1:03:40] right.

[1:03:41] >> And uh we met with the SEMR board as

[1:03:44] well. So the metacomt board, Semre board

[1:03:46] met

[1:03:47] >> and approved um a joint executive

[1:03:50] director. So the executive director of

[1:03:52] SER will also serve as the executive

[1:03:55] director of Metacama.

[1:03:57] all with the intent and they an IMA an

[1:04:00] intermunicipal agreement was executed

[1:04:02] for that

[1:04:04] >> executive director. Um and the goal is

[1:04:07] to lead towards merger of the two

[1:04:10] entities which as I might have described

[1:04:12] in the past will likely result in lower

[1:04:15] cost to Millville for um you know

[1:04:19] continuing dispatch services. So that's

[1:04:22] really the goal that everybody wants to

[1:04:25] do. Makes good sense. the executive

[1:04:27] director right now, you know, they've

[1:04:30] got this uh World Cup stuff going on.

[1:04:32] So, they're very busy over there. So,

[1:04:33] his term wouldn't start probably until a

[1:04:36] August 1.

[1:04:37] >> And hope that was approved today.

[1:04:39] >> Hope not a reduction in service. Yeah.

[1:04:41] >> No, that's right. And um I'm not I

[1:04:44] wasn't a voting member today, but I I am

[1:04:46] allowed to ask questions, which I do. Um

[1:04:50] but starting July 1st, I become the

[1:04:52] voting member for Amended Millville.

[1:04:54] >> That sounds like fun. Oh, there you go.

[1:04:57] >> Okay.

[1:04:58] All right. Items not reasonably

[1:04:59] anticipated.

[1:05:00] >> Nothing.

[1:05:01] >> All right. We're going to have a next

[1:05:03] regular meeting Monday, July 13th, 2026

[1:05:06] at 6 p.m. Unless we squeeze one in

[1:05:09] before then, but we don't anticipate it.

[1:05:10] >> I don't think you need to. Right.

[1:05:12] >> Okay.

[1:05:13] >> Um,

[1:05:15] yeah. All right. Um, and this typically

[1:05:17] is around vacation time, so any

[1:05:20] potential.

[1:05:21] >> So, there could be remote by some,

[1:05:23] right?

[1:05:24] >> Okay.

[1:05:26] All right, just food for thought since

[1:05:29] uh yeah, we're here. Uh oh, let's enter

[1:05:33] an executive session by roll call.

[1:05:37] All right. I move that the board of

[1:05:39] selectman enter an executive session per

[1:05:40] mass general law chapter 38 subsection

[1:05:42] 21 A3 to discuss strategy relative to

[1:05:45] litigation where discussion of these

[1:05:47] matters in open session would have a

[1:05:48] detrimental effect on the litigating

[1:05:50] position of the town. I move that the

[1:05:52] board of selectman enter an executive

[1:05:53] session per mass general law chapter 30A

[1:05:55] subsection 2182 to discuss strategy

[1:05:58] sessions in preparation for negotiation

[1:06:00] with non-union personnel or to conduct

[1:06:02] collective bargaining sessions or

[1:06:04] contract negotiations with non-UN

[1:06:06] personnel and C move the board of

[1:06:08] selectment enter an executive session

[1:06:09] per master journal law chapter 38

[1:06:11] subsection A21A3 to discuss strategy

[1:06:14] with respect to collective bargaining or

[1:06:15] litigation if an open meeting may have a

[1:06:17] detrimental effect on the bargaining or

[1:06:19] litigating position of the town and the

[1:06:21] chair so declares teams union local 170

[1:06:24] police highway returning to open meeting

[1:06:26] only to adjourn looking for a second

[1:06:29] >> second and we'll take a vote Kristen I

[1:06:31] >> I Jen I

[1:06:33] >> All right you don't have to go

Board of Selectmen - June 15, 2026

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