[0:00] All right, it's six o'clock. Let's call the Mon Township Planning Commission of

[0:05] August 11th to order. >> Start with the pledgece

[0:10] to the United States of America and to the republic for it stands nationy

[0:19] andice for all. [clears throat]

[0:24] » All right, Kenny, you want to do the roll call?

[0:30] Shab >> here.

[0:32] » Walsh >> here.

[0:33] » Schwitzer's here. Reader >> here.

[0:35] » Beller >> here.

[0:36] » Rosen >> here.

[0:38] » Here.

[0:41] » All right. >> Make a motion to approve the agenda.

[0:44] Support. >> The motion support. All in favor?

[0:49] » I. >> Any opposed? All right. Motion carried.

[0:52] » I'll make a motion to approve the credit.

[0:59] We have a motion and support. All in favor?

[1:02] » I. >> Any opposed? All right. Motion carried.

[1:07] » All right. We'd like to open it up to public comment. If there's anybody that

[1:11] would like to step forward if you have anything you want to bring to us about

[1:15] items on the agenda or you have three minutes, come up and let

[1:21] us let us have what you've got. I was here last

[1:57] What was your name again? >> Thank you.

[2:02] » Thank you. Is there anybody else that would like to come and speak during

[2:06] public input?

[2:09] » Oh, thank you.

[2:14] [laughter]

[2:17] » Anybody else that wants to come forward and talk during public comment?

[2:22] All right. Nobody else come forward. We'll close public comment, public

[2:25] input, excuse me. All right. First on the agenda is items for consideration,

[2:32] which is just what you were speaking about. 2832 Midland Road site plan

[2:36] review.

[2:40] Who wants to go first? Do you want to come up and speak to us? Do you want to

[2:45] jump right in? Have you seen the comments?

[2:48] » And you've been here several times, so

[2:55] looking for what [laughter]

[2:59] » can my spot >> I can talk about it. Um, everybody

[3:05] should have a copy of our report. I'd like to I'm happy to answer any

[3:10] questions in the report. I'd like to bring you to page seven.

[3:15] On page seven, our recommendation is to approve the special use permit and site

[3:19] plan with following condition that the total lot or partial acreage be shown on

[3:26] the plan and the proposed parking area be shown on the plan. There are other

[3:31] optional things that the planning commission may consider but our

[3:35] recommendation is to approve the project as submitted.

[3:42] I'll give you some time to go through the letter if you have any questions. My

[3:47] only question is maybe you can address this.

[3:50] How, and I think we touched on this before. How are you disposing of uh

[3:54] garbage? You don't you don't have a dumpster, so you're just doing the yard

[3:58] waste bins or not yard waste, but garbage bins.

[4:02] » Okay.

[4:10] Again,

[4:18] this fell under the adaptive use ordinance that was prepared. There's no

[4:22] dumpster on site presently. So, guard disposal is going to be the property

[4:28] owner's responsibility. There really isn't

[4:32] a suitable great location to put a dumpster on site because it's a existing

[4:37] site. So, It's going to be his responsibility to

[4:42] either remove the garbage or get the dumpers and have it picked up by

[4:48] garbage which he has to make his own

[4:52] arrangements because it's commercial property. So it is not just an automatic

[4:57] thing.

[5:06] These are all optional things.

[5:10] » It's up to the planning commission, but they are optional things. I mean, in our

[5:14] mind, they are not, you know, they're not urgent, but we

[5:19] wanted to bring them to your attention. I mean, if they're important to the

[5:22] planning commission. We wanted to make you aware of that.

[5:26] » You said you didn't do anything different with lighting. Is that

[5:29] correct? >> Correct.

[5:29] » So, I've noticed there's the just the two lights on the side and then there's

[5:58] Okay. So, we had talked about this with Justin since no new lighting proposed

[6:04] really I think photometric plan was required. Same with the landscaping.

[6:09] There's no new landscaping being proposed. We didn't think it was

[6:12] necessary to to provide a landscaping plan. Again, remember this is an

[6:18] existing site being reused under the adaptive use. So,

[6:27] concessions are going to need to be made to make this a workable site.

[6:53] Okay, thank you.

[6:58] » Any planning commission members have any questions?

[7:01] I don't have any questions. I would make a motion that we approve this according

[7:06] to the recommendation and the two prior to constru total square foot acres

[7:13] that's easily

[7:18] on the optional note prior construction provides three additional parking spaces

[7:26] for all of those items.

[7:32] So all all of the items under the note the optional.

[7:36] » Yes.

[7:40] » And just a comment, I've been by that building several times

[7:45] and my last time was yesterday. Absolutely beautiful.

[7:51] » What that building was what it is now. >> I agree.

[7:55] » You done a fantastic job. >> Y

[7:59] » [laughter] >> where you're in the right. You're going

[8:02] in the right direction. >> It looked beautiful.

[8:07] » All right, we'll give Connie a minute to write the

[8:09] » So, we're approving it with just these two requirements here.

[8:14] » Yep. There's a motion on Connie will read Connie will read it. She's going to

[8:17] read it over for you.

[8:22] » Um, so motion by reader supported by Waltz to approve the site plan. um

[8:31] requiring items outlined in number one prior to

[8:35] construction. They have to um do the total lot. I'll have it spelled out as

[8:41] they do in Spicer and then waving the optional items as outlined in Spicer's

[8:46] review. >> Got it.

[8:49] » So, we have a motion. We have a second. You second that. Okay.

[8:53] » All right. >> [laughter]

[9:00] » All right. >> Ready? Yes. Um,

[9:04] » Beller, >> yes.

[9:06] » Rosenberg, >> yes.

[9:08] » Walsh, >> yes.

[9:09] » Reader, >> yes.

[9:10] » Heckham, >> yes.

[9:11] » Schweitzer, yes. Shabot, >> yes.

[9:13] » Motion carried. Thank you, >> Justin. You had better attendance.

[9:17] [laughter] >> All right. Thank you very much. You can

[9:21] stick around if you'd like to.

[9:25] » [laughter]

[9:29] » All right. Next on our agenda is Bay AreD

[9:35] 4155 Monitor site plan review. Do we have somebody here?

[9:47] » Hello everyone. I'm with engineering on behalf of

[9:54] architects presenting tonight. So the project in front of you is a proposed

[9:59] building addition to the existing bay site. Um the addition is 2524.

[10:08] Um the addition will house additional classrooms and uh two bathrooms.

[10:18] as they rework some of the existing floor plan. Um

[10:23] the acite is 95.75

[10:27] acres. Um

[10:31] included with the addition of some of the existing parking lot to

[10:36] the north of the addition

[10:40] sidewalk area and two ADA comp.

[10:46] Um, also along the south [snorts] end the addition is um fencing to fence

[10:53] off the existing playground area was there before

[10:59] connectivity for that sidewalk as it goes around the um

[11:08] lighting. There's no additional light for this. Just building

[11:16] emergency lighting on the exterior

[11:25] existing dumpster.

[11:31] We did do a

[11:35] parking survey of the total campus and we above the pool

[11:42] owners for a minimum as well

[11:47] with this change building.

[11:54] Uh we did get approval from commissioner that no addition

[11:59] will be required for this.

[12:13] We do have some landscaping

[12:17] with some details along the north side of the

[12:33] engineer regarding signage. So on the north of the building there's an

[12:39] elevation that shows the sign that'll be similar size and style to the existing

[12:45] signage building.

[12:57] » Thank you.

[13:02] have our engineering and our planning review. I'm happy to answer any

[13:07] questions that you may have. I'm going to bring you to page

[13:12] there's no page number, but it's the last page of the planning report.

[13:16] Our recommendation tonight is to approve the proposed bay career center

[13:23] expansion subject to the following conditions and those conditions are um

[13:28] that the site plan show the property lines and dimensions of all the existing

[13:31] proposed structure. These are these next are kind of optional. The planning

[13:36] commission may approve the submitted landscaping plan um as an acceptable

[13:42] alternative or require an updated plan that would meet the ordinance. Our

[13:46] recommendation is to accept the plan as submitted

[13:49] [clears throat] and the other one is provide information on the proposed

[13:52] signage which been already talked about. So our recommendation tonight is to

[13:58] approve the site plan as submitted with the one condition of adding the property

[14:03] lines and dimensions.

[14:07] » Can I can I ask you on here under see where I'm at?

[14:12] » Yep. Yes. soil erosion erosion and sediment control permit.

[14:16] » Yeah. >> Do they need that?

[14:19] » I think that they should contact [clears throat] B County rain office and

[14:23] make the county aware of it which I think they are and that's a

[14:26] determination that needs to be made by their office.

[14:30] » Okay. >> So, it's kind of a standing comment on

[14:32] our part >> just so that

[14:35] » so you're aware you're aware of it. >> Yeah.

[14:38] » Okay. Okay. >> [clears throat]

[14:41] » my feeling he's probably going to wave it, but but that's his fault, not not

[14:47] ours. >> Okay.

[14:50] » And again, I'm happy to answer your question. We've worked with Ben and the

[14:54] ISD on this project for several months. We had a pre

[15:00] planning commission meeting on this and they've met all the things we talked

[15:05] about previously. >> All right. Does anybody I have

[15:09] questions. [clears throat]

[15:12] » Pardon me. >> We need to report on the fire

[15:14] department. >> The fire department has reviewed and

[15:17] approved the plan. They're proposing no additional hydrants. They're happy with

[15:22] the the location of the fire hydrants. The water and sanitary sewer system on

[15:28] site is private. It is not owned by the township. It's a private system

[15:36] and the fire department is aware of it. They're the fire location.

[15:42] They were part of the initial planning review.

[15:48] » Anybody else have any questions? >> With that said, I'll make a

[15:51] recommendation that we approve. And I'd like to include the three bullet points.

[15:58] » All right. All pre-inccluded. >> All pre-inccluded because I thought Don

[16:03] said the option would be the landscaping. Okay.

[16:09] All right, we have a motion on the floor. We'll give Connie a minute to

[16:14] » We've got support. Give Connie a minute to write it. She'll read it back and

[16:18] then we'll vote on it.

[16:22] » Okay. Motion by Beller supported by sorry. Um motion by Beller supported by

[16:29] Reer to approve the site plan contingent on providing an updated site plan that

[16:34] shows all property lines and dimensions of all existing proposed structures to

[16:40] uh submit a landscaping plan um as an acceptable alternative and to provide

[16:45] information on all proposed signage. >> We're actually accepting the submitted

[16:51] landscaping. >> We are okay as alternative

[16:55] » and then signage >> but that do we that's still

[17:05] » so we don't need that. I don't think we need

[17:12] it on the

[17:16] dimensions and signage on the >> So you want the signage included in the

[17:21] motion that we have to provide that. Okay. Okay.

[17:26] All right.

[17:30] » Beckham, >> yes.

[17:32] » Reader, >> yes.

[17:33] » Chad, >> yes. Welch,

[17:36] » yes. >> Rosenberg,

[17:37] » yes. >> Beller,

[17:38] » yes. >> Ander, yes. Motion carried.

[17:41] » All right. Thank you very much. >> Look at us just cruising right along.

[17:46] » Yeah, we are. [laughter]

[17:52] » All right. Next on the agenda, man. Oh, boy. I'm gonna kill this name

[17:59] here. The Royal Party Store on Westside Sagena Road. Site plan review.

[18:05] Come forward.

[18:13] » Yep. Come on in. >> Are Yeah, we're ready. Are you?

[18:33] » Interior build.

[18:41] structural expensive actually

[18:48] minor exterior improvements

[18:53] on the building

[19:05] ended up being

[19:10] my

[19:14] creat.

[19:32] Max. So flag

[19:41] was a different

[19:48] construction

[19:58] barrier free.

[20:01] emergency.

[20:04] So we went back and he wanted us to cross

[20:12] everything all

[20:28] on it. It takes up space wherecific

[20:42] standards. We [clears throat]

[20:46] alternatively proposed to do some sidewalk.

[21:04] exterior sidewalk.

[21:12] They went through some

[21:17] parking requirements based on size of the retail space

[21:24] and some of the bathroom stuff.

[21:28] parking spaces based on that

[21:35] one

[21:38] right now closest to the building

[21:52] items. One of them was

[21:59] parking spots

[22:03] » [clears throat]

[22:09] » Every so often seven

[22:26] spreading light.

[22:36] How do you intend to deal with um like we brought it before the garbage is do

[22:42] you have a dumpster on site?

[23:00] Mhm.

[23:06] » Okay.

[23:17] So, did you say you you have ADA compliant parking spots?

[23:22] » Yes.

[23:41] And you've been working closely with our um building official, correct?

[23:45] » Okay. >> Yeah.

[24:10] Okay.

[24:15] » All right. Thank you. Thank you. >> Don,

[24:22] » again, you've got our planning and our engineering review. This project kind of

[24:26] has some history to it in that um The previous building inspector, Dave

[24:34] Crow, issued a building permit and work has been done on the building. When Carl

[24:40] became the new building inspector and discovered that there was work being

[24:43] done outside, Carl wanted it to go through safe plan approval and that's

[24:48] how we kind of got here today. We've been working with the architect and the

[24:52] owner. They complied with most of the requirements. Again, this is an existing

[24:56] site, so it's again an adaptive use. It's the old Danny's Market, if you

[25:00] will. Um, when you look at the site, there really isn't any space available

[25:06] for dumpster. There really isn't any space that's allowable for landscaping.

[25:12] The owner has agreed to putting some flower

[25:16] pots out in front. They do meet the parking requirements. They do did

[25:22] provide an 88 uh parking space. I'm going to bring you to the last page

[25:27] of our site plan approval letter and our recommendation is to approve um the site

[25:35] plan um with two conditions that the site

[25:41] plan identify dimensions and lab right away and that the prior to construction

[25:48] information be required on wall sign. Again, the wall sign is something that

[25:53] the planning commission typically reviews and approves. The other optional

[25:59] items are not critical. We wanted to bring them to your attention. You know,

[26:05] our feeling is that they can be again waved because this is a an adaptive use.

[26:12] It's repurposing an existing site and there's very limited things that they

[26:17] can do. Again, I think from our previous discussion, the planning commission is

[26:21] eager to see these existing buildings being repurposed

[26:26] and not left vac. So with that, when we did the ordinance, we agreed and

[26:32] understood that there'd have to be some give.

[26:37] So our recommendation is to approve it with the two additional requirements.

[26:43] Again, I'm happy to answer any questions.

[26:46] » I have a question for engineer and [snorts] owner. Your

[26:51] proposed wall signage or signage is this going to be illuminated signage because

[26:56] I know there's a residence to your direct south and there is one to the

[27:01] north of you as well on that corner. So, we want to make sure that we're not

[27:05] blinding our neighbors. We've had that

[27:11] sign

[27:15] in the front.

[27:19] » Is it going to be like a digital sign that scrolls or just a sign with the

[27:23] name and then light? >> It'll be attached to the building.

[27:28] » Okay.

[27:36] Yes, we want to see that sign

[27:45] in the original plan was in the M right

[27:52] in the right. >> Yeah. On this concrete area.

[27:56] » Yes.

[28:00] We shared that right away.

[28:12] » All right.

[28:20] » All right.

[28:25] » All right. Any any questions from the planning commission? I notice on here

[28:29] that the fire department is requesting to walk through prior to opening.

[28:37] » Anyways, you want to walk through and make sure everything's good before you

[28:41] open. >> I think that'll be

[28:44] that.

[28:47] » I have a note also from Carl that he would like to reiterate that all the

[28:53] just because if you get um approval here tonight. You still have to

[28:58] follow all the building codes. So, you still have to deal with Carl, [laughter]

[29:05] » which I believe I believe >> I believe. Yes, you have been. Yes.

[29:10] » So, you continue to deal with Carl. >> Good. Well, so do we.

[29:17] » Does anybody else have any questions here?

[29:32] Can we include the walk through by the fire department since they actually

[29:35] wrote it right in?

[29:51] » Yes. Yes,

[29:55] » those were two that came to me specifically. So,

[30:00] » so what I'm sorry, what what

[30:13] » Yeah, right. [laughter] >> That's what he said.

[30:27] Okay. So, we have a motion by Beller supported by Reader to approve the site

[30:31] plan contingent that prior to construction, a final site plan that

[30:36] identifies dimensions and label all public road rightway lines provided and

[30:41] providing um information required by section 15.05A

[30:47] for the proposed wall sign waving optional

[30:53] conditions as outlined in Spicer's review. Is that correct? Okay. And then

[30:58] they must also comply with all building codes and obtain all necessary permits

[31:04] » and the walkthrough >> and fire department [clears throat]

[31:10] » prior to opening.

[31:20] All right. >> Reader,

[31:22] » yes. >> Walsh,

[31:24] » yes. >> Rosenbra,

[31:26] » yes. >> Yes.

[31:28] » Yes. Shadwick, >> yes.

[31:30] » And >> yes.

[31:31] » Motion carry.

[31:35] » Thank you very much.

[31:39] » Now you just have to deal with Carl. [laughter]

[31:46] » All right. Let me flip here. Where are we?

[31:58] » Okay. Next on the agenda is in his presence ministries

[32:04] 4521 Monitor Road site plan review. >> Hello

[32:15] Virginia

[32:25] and I didn't mean to causeus.

[32:36] [laughter]

[32:43] Just metal warehouse building

[33:06] took down took down.

[33:12] You have a large building on site already, right? And there was another

[33:16] smaller one that you took down.

[33:32] » Okay. Done. Want to weigh in?

[33:37] » Sure. You can take a breather for a second.

[33:49] [laughter] >> You can you can come up and talk to us

[33:52] if you'd like. Would you like to? >> Okay.

[33:56] [laughter]

[33:58] » Again, this this you have our memo review. This project again has some

[34:04] history. Um, it was submitted back in November of 2024

[34:11] with a lot of recommendations to deny it because of of ongoing issues. Um, and

[34:18] because it came before it came to Carl and Amy as a site review, they're

[34:27] proposing to add a new building. You have our engineering report. adding

[34:32] no water, no sewer to the site. Our recommendation is to approve

[34:38] um approve the site plan submitted with clarificate with two things

[34:46] clarification of proposed parking lot expansion and I think the gist of it is

[34:50] proposing a whole lot more parking on the site and we don't understand why and

[34:57] then submit the required building

[35:02] for the top of prior construction

[35:14] parking and I don't know if you want to address the additional parking

[35:20] » addition

[35:27] to things. >> Well, that's what confused us because

[35:30] the plan still showed additional parking. So, we were very confused on

[35:34] why this building. >> So, are you are are you in fact adding

[35:38] parking or no? Oh, you're not. >> I mean, I don't see that at all.

[35:45] » We don't either. And that's what confused us.

[35:53] » Yeah. >> So, based on that, you know, we would

[35:58] again recommend approval. Um again, all it needs is updated.

[36:04] Well, a building permit and building

[36:10] official to get necessary approval for the plan and building

[36:24] now. >> So, this building is going to go

[36:27] » right >> on the north end. Is that correct?

[36:30] » Correct. by the

[36:36] » Okay.

[36:40] » near the other storage building. >> Yes.

[36:43] » Okay. >> Eight feet away. Can I ask So, so when

[36:50] So, when we get these in, we all drive by the site and we get to look at

[36:53] different things. Can I ask about your dumpster in the back? Do you have plans

[36:59] for your dumpster in the back? Yes,

[37:10] » the the only reason I ask is in our ordinance we have qualifications for

[37:15] dumpsters and um I noticed that yours was just sitting out there. It's not

[37:20] that it's unusual. There are other areas at our

[37:25] township that have that, but we usually recommend that they're enclosed

[37:31] um or at least surrounded three ways by by fencing.

[37:38] Um and I think the issue is, you know, I don't know what the previous site plan

[37:44] requirements were, but there is a dumpster on site not have an enclosure.

[37:49] If it was submitted today, you'd be required to put an enclosure on it.

[37:54] Enclosure could be a stock could be concrete block

[38:00] when you go out a dumpster.

[38:07] And I think that's what

[38:14] » if if you came

[38:23] Yes. >> Again, we didn't we didn't make the

[38:27] comment because we're just adding an accessory building.

[38:31] » And sometimes and you know, sometimes when when you've got

[38:36] I mean, you probably had the dumpster sitting there forever. You don't even

[38:39] see it anymore because it's been sitting there forever. I thought I'd bring it to

[38:43] your attention. If if you do anything bigger, it's going

[38:48] to prompt you to do something with the dumpster. But aesthetically, if you're

[38:53] doing stuff, you might want to consider that in the future. It just looks

[38:58] » I mean, it's a dumpster, but [laughter]

[39:03] » just so it's on your radar.

[39:11] building you're building

[39:25] access

[39:37] » gravel.

[39:45] All right. Thank you. >> All right. Does anybody have any

[39:50] questions here?

[40:02] So, we'reing no additional parking.

[40:08] » Was that left over from the last? >> That must have been left over from the

[40:12] last, >> right?

[40:19] » I'll make a support.

[40:24] » All right, we've got a motion to approve.

[40:28] Are you putting any stipulations on that? That's

[40:32] » it.

[40:39] » No additional parking.

[40:47] » Okay. So, it's motion by reader supported by Rosenberg to approve the

[40:50] site plan contingent on submitting all required building and trade permits to

[40:54] the township prior to construction and no additional parking is required.

[41:03] So, roll call vote. Uh, Reer, >> yes.

[41:08] » Peekom, >> yes.

[41:09] » Rosenbra, >> yes.

[41:11] » Beller, >> yes.

[41:12] » Walsh, >> yes.

[41:13] » Schwitzer, yes. Shadwitt, >> yes.

[41:15] » Motion carries.

[41:19] [laughter]

[41:21] » Where else can you have this much fun >> for nothing?

[41:28] » All right. Thank you.

[41:32] Wow. >> I know. I thought

[41:34] » I think we all deserve a gold star. >> But before we get that quick,

[41:40] » it's taken us a lot of work, a lot of working

[41:44] to get them where we're at. And I'm sorry,

[41:49] but we put serious effort into this mostly because the application

[41:56] submitted.

[41:59] » Well, this went very nice. >> So, I like it. We didn't have paperwork

[42:05] at our desk. >> Come back. [laughter]

[42:10] » You make that phone call. You call and ask him to come back.

[42:12] » We had a hard time convincing that

[42:17] him saying just because it's been like this for 76 years was an excuse to allow

[42:22] it to happen or continue to happen. That was his that was his answer to all the

[42:28] questions. >> Yes.

[42:30] » You just can't live with that answer. >> Okay. So, we have some unfinished

[42:34] business which is the data centers. >> Don,

[42:39] » so I think you have a copy of the draft ordinance. I'm not really prepared to go

[42:44] through the whole thing. I talked with Amy. Mike can be here at the next

[42:50] planning commission meeting and we can go through it page by page. But I am

[42:55] here to either take your comments, your questions, and try to get some answers

[43:01] to them. Again, there's a moratorum. We're not in a hurry. We've got plenty

[43:06] of time. >> When does our moratorium expire? Is it

[43:08] February? >> I think it was like February.

[43:14] » So, we've We're not in a rush.

[43:17] » Oh, February. >> It was going to go on the agenda every

[43:20] meeting until it's on the agenda again tonight. You

[43:25] know, again, I just want to make sure you guys had to look through it, got

[43:29] your questions answered, you know, and that we're we're getting to where we

[43:34] need to be. This ordinance is very similar to other ordinances that Mike

[43:39] has been working on with other communities. So, this is not

[43:44] brand new off the top of his head ordinance.

[43:50] » I think it makes sense for us to review it, provide any comments, and then we

[43:54] can be prepared to discuss it further next month.

[43:58] » Does anybody have anything right now that they that he that you want Don to

[44:03] send back to Mike to start thinking about?

[44:15] Mike is on vacation next week.

[44:19] » So that being said, we had also talked about are you going to be at future

[44:23] meetings? >> Oh,

[44:34] I am not under the impression that it's a

[44:39] decision by me alone. I believe that that's something that we

[44:43] all have to decide, but I know it's something that we discussed.

[44:48] » Well, I would hope that Don usually gives some pretty good

[44:53] advice, but uh I think if we get the information early enough and that we see

[45:01] that we're we should have some legal counsel,

[45:07] then we should. But that's going to be pretty tough to do. We

[45:10] like this come out on Thursday and I'm not faulting anybody that it happens on

[45:16] Thursday

[45:21] in case >> I agree with what you're saying.

[45:25] » I think there's in my opinion I think there's value in having you here.

[45:29] » Um and if we decide that we want to wait and see what's on the agenda, Bill makes

[45:36] a good point. We don't get our information until sometimes Thursday.

[45:40] The office isn't open on Friday. So that gives you, you know, Monday's notice to

[45:46] if we want you here or not. And that's if everybody can pick up their packet

[45:50] and review it over the weekend. I think it makes it tough. But that's just my

[45:55] » a little bit of my thought is I think it really depends on what's on the agenda

[46:00] and if they're ordinance related that we work very close with Kevin on the

[46:05] ordinance probably valuable that he's here. If it's simply site plan reviews

[46:10] and approvals, you know, I don't it doesn't seem like

[46:16] we're going to get into legal questions. Those become planning engineering

[46:20] questions. when it comes to the ordinance, those

[46:23] are legal questions and we're not as prepared to speak legally as

[46:28] » So, as far as working on the data center between now and February, there's

[46:34] probably some value in having you here and and it that gives us a chance to get

[46:39] to know you >> and you get to know us and then maybe we

[46:43] can revisit whether you attend after that or not.

[46:48] » Yeah. So for a lot of my other communities what happens is that's

[46:51] exactly right. Let's say the data set ordinance was not on this agenda.

[46:58] Typically I don't show those questions

[47:13] that typically take a recess call me on the phone. question

[47:22] doesn't happen very

[47:29] schools regulated by local

[47:39] exactly so you know that's my recommendation coming from me if it's

[47:43] strictly site plan review you really don't need me if it's Walmart

[47:48] maybe. >> Yeah,

[47:49] » let's face it. That's a little different animal.

[48:11] That's fine. You call me Monday. I'm here. It's on my calendar. So it

[48:16] doesn't

[48:28] » as a question.

[48:38] » Is that just a courtesy to us why they were here?

[48:46] sit here. >> Yeah.

[48:59] [laughter]

[49:07] All right, >> I'll make that motion.

[49:09] » You can support it. He made it. >> Oh, he got it before you. All right, we

[49:14] have a motion and support. All in favor? >> Any opposed?

[49:18] » All right, motion carried. We are >> great.

[49:22] » That's a huge surprise. I thought we'd be here.

Planning Commission Meeting-August 11, 2026

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