[3:26] I mean it should be

[3:32] Yeah. Can you test test test one two three ABC

[3:40] Come with me. There was an old lady that lived in a

[3:45] shoe. >> Has it

[3:54] Are you checking online now? Was an old woman who lived in the shoe

[3:59] who had so many children she didn't know what to do.

[4:06] Um I can't remember another I gota remember another nursery.

[4:13] Three blind mice. Three blind mice. See how they run. See how they run.

[4:56] I have no idea what mic does that. >> I don't know.

[5:02] Okay, then.

[5:11] » Okay. But I mean, you'll probably hear it here. The question is is if you have

[5:14] it off, does do you hear it on the streaming?

[5:17] If it's if you have it turned off in the back.

[23:00] Teresa,

[23:07] you >> Teresa?

[23:09] » Okay, we'll get started. It's five or Yep. five o'clock. Uh, so the August

[23:15] meeting of the planning commission will uh will start. I don't think we need a

[23:19] roll call. We do have a quorum. Miss Lines, um, approval of the agenda. Do we

[23:23] have a motion to approve the agenda as proposed?

[23:27] » I'll move to approve. Okay, Mr. Smi and I think

[23:32] » and Pam seconded. All those in favor say I.

[23:35] » I. >> Any opposed?

[23:37] » Motion passes. Great. And approval of the minutes from the July meeting. Any

[23:43] recommendations for edits or changes? >> Okay.

[23:48] » Was that Mr. Davis? >> It was Mr. Davis.

[23:50] » Yep. Seconded by Mr. Smite. All those in favor of approving the minutes from last

[23:55] month say I. I. >> Any opposed?

[23:58] Motion carries. Mr. Stone, Planning Commission

[24:03] recommendations update.

[24:07] » Good afternoon, planning commission. Mr. Chair, thank you. We have August

[24:12] recommendations from town council uh that planning commission has hoarded on

[24:18] the first reading for town center. The PD amendment was denied and that will

[24:24] terminate that application. um they will have to request a one-year waiver or

[24:30] come back in the future to um have any other future plans reviewed. The rest of

[24:35] these are final readings. The uh final reading on 1724 Lanon, the annexation

[24:41] and zoning of area wide business that was approved. We had the final reading

[24:46] of a 66 acre parcel on Highway 17 uh zoned AB to remain in the Sweetgrass

[24:53] Basket Overlay District. that was approved.

[24:56] Then we had the uh 2965 North Highway 17 that was

[25:03] annexed in zone CC. Uh that was approved. Final reading um I'm excited

[25:09] to announce final reading on the 5-year update for the comprehensive plan. Uh

[25:13] that was approved. And final reading for the highway 17 uh

[25:21] aggregation of nearly 12 acres of five parcels that was deferred um by council.

[25:29] So that's all the staff has. Glad to answer any questions you might have.

[25:35] » Thanks Mr. Stone. Any questions um for staff about the uh town council's

[25:41] reviews? Okay. If not, we will move ahead. I

[25:47] assume that all the correspondence was forwarded to us within the parameters.

[25:51] » That's correct. >> Great. Thank you for that. Uh now's the

[25:56] time for general public comment. So we have three public hearings on um our

[26:01] agenda tonight. So if you care to speak about a specific uh uh item on on the

[26:07] agenda, um you're welcome to do that, of course, and we we'd ask that you

[26:11] probably reserve your comments until then. But if there is there anything of

[26:15] of g of a general nature you care to bring before the commission, now would

[26:19] be a time to do that.

[26:24] Seeing none, we will close the general public comment period and move to um our

[26:30] order of business 7A public hearing for street name approval.

[26:38] » Good evening, chairman and uh planning commission members. Um, thank you,

[26:43] Peter. So, um, I have the honor to present this request tonight to rename a

[26:48] street in Rivertown after our very dear friend, Bruce Cutting. As you all know,

[26:52] Bruce lost a two-year battle with pancreatic cancer in June. And although

[26:56] he lost his life, this illness did not beat him or ever get the best of him. He

[27:02] was eternally optimistic. As retired Army Lieutenant Colonel, the core values

[27:08] are loyalty, duty, respect, selfless service, honor, integrity, and personal

[27:14] courage. How Bruce lived exemplified these values. From a 20-year service to

[27:21] our country to serving his town, his community, his church, his neighborhood,

[27:26] and serving alongside all of us and all the other things he did that we never

[27:30] knew about. Bruce always and absolutely lived it

[27:34] with a big grin on his face and a thumbs up all the time and usually

[27:40] with a witty self-deprecating joke that went along with it. His very

[27:46] last sit rap, which is army lingo for situation report, uh came on May 9th,

[27:52] and as usual, he was funny and positive and full of hope. and he ended his email

[27:58] with a sentence that said, "There's not a fear in me." And I don't doubt it one

[28:04] bit because he was outspoken in his faith and he was confident in where he

[28:09] was going to spend eternity. So with that, we recommend approval with this

[28:14] street being renamed. And to Bruce, I would say well done, good and faithful

[28:19] servant. And I know that he has his bride and some family and friends here

[28:24] that would like to speak for the public hearing. So with that I'll

[28:27] » right Michelle thank so very well articulated thank you is a public

[28:32] hearing so we we'd welcome comment from um from the public

[28:37] » I don't know how anyone

[28:43] » you can go you can go to the the mic yeah that's okay

[28:46] » and if you would uh for the public record if you'd state your name and

[28:49] address please ma'am >> so sorry I'm Jennifer Lavoy I'm one of

[28:52] the residents of Rivertown Parkway and Bradley Lane Um, we live next to Bruce

[28:57] and his beautiful wife, Arlene.

[29:02] So, we want to first thank you guys and thank you Peter as well for your help

[29:06] with this um for your consideration in changing the street name in honor of our

[29:12] friend and neighbor Bruce Cutting. He was just an amazing human. Um, he was a

[29:17] cherished member of our community. He was the neighbor everyone wishes they

[29:20] could have. Um, the first to welcome each of us to the neighborhood. the one

[29:24] we called on with questions about happenings throughout the community.

[29:29] The one who seemed to know just about everything about just about everything.

[29:33] He demonstrated unwavering dedication to the betterment of our neighborhood,

[29:37] contributing to um by serving on our HOA board as a volunteer coordinator, to our

[29:43] neighborhood swim team, serving on boards and commissions and local

[29:46] municipalities. Bruce greeted thousands of people coming and going in and out of

[29:51] Charleston at the cruise ship terminal um where he served as guest services

[29:56] agent um on the Carnival Sunshine. Bruce's desk for life was truly

[30:01] unmatched. Um he would get such a kick out of watching us go through this

[30:05] process with the county and the municipalities.

[30:09] We can't wait to see how many different ways GPS can pronounce Ketty.

[30:14] Naming the street after Bruce will serve as a lasting tribute to his legacy and

[30:18] provide a constant reminder of the values of service, compassion,

[30:22] friendship, and community that he so strongly embodied. Um, he was amazing

[30:26] and there was no one more worthy of being honored.

[30:29] » Thank you. >> Thank you.

[30:35] » Yes, sir. And if you would, sir, just state your

[30:38] name and address for the record. My name is Brian Oliver, 2845 Rivertown Parkway,

[30:43] right on the corner of Bradley Lane, soon to be renamed one of our best

[30:47] friends ever. Back in June,

[30:52] uh, all of us here up and down this street in the community lost a big big

[30:58] man. It's the best way I could describe him.

[31:01] Rebulls, bad jokes, good friends. He was the

[31:05] first one to welcome us 10 years ago onto that street when we moved in. He

[31:09] was the f he was the first to welcome everyone else that I knew that was

[31:12] there. Amazing friend. Uh he set an example in so many ways on so many

[31:19] dimensions to all of us, kids, young people, older adults going through

[31:24] things. He was a brilliant to the very end. Um

[31:29] that was probably what I could say was even to that time the last times that we

[31:34] visited him is um I never saw somebody that I would love to put to point an

[31:40] example a way of life a way to live all the way to the very end of his life it

[31:46] was there um there will not be any time that we walk down this street or see

[31:52] this or go to the community that uh and and people throughout the the devel

[31:57] element that know him will not be remembering him, talking about him,

[32:00] telling stories. There's probably not one tourist that got off the Carnival

[32:04] Cruise Line of the thousands over the last five or seven years that got off of

[32:09] that ship or got on them. They won't remember Bruce Kenny in one way or

[32:14] another. He'll be a part of their life and a part of the stories they'll tell

[32:17] about Charleston. Bigger than that, we wish him well and we'll be thinking

[32:22] of him for always. >> Thank you, sir.

[32:28] wonderful tributes. Is there anyone else who would like to speak?

[32:36] Okay, we will close the public hearing. So, those of you that had the privilege

[32:40] of uh of of working on this commission or otherwise with with Bruce, he he was

[32:46] everything that has already been said and more. This could be the simplest

[32:50] decision that um this commission has ever made.

[32:55] So with that discussion, >> so for a moment I'm going to pretend

[33:00] this is The Voice, the television show, The Voice.

[33:03] » That's the golden buzzer.

[33:07] » Okay. Is there a motion? >> I think that was a motion, but I'll

[33:11] second it. >> That's great. All those in favor say I.

[33:14] » I. >> Any opposed? Great. Thank you. Thank

[33:18] you. Okay, we'll push forward to agenda item

[33:23] 7B, public hearing for Ving Road.

[33:29] » Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's going to be tough to follow.

[33:32] » Yes, it will. All right. Um, so this is a request to

[33:38] reszone two parcels on Vining Road to AB2.

[33:45] You can see here from the aerial context, this is nearly one acre. Uh

[33:48] right now it serves as a contractor's office and a gravel parking lot uh on

[33:53] the corners of Hall's Pond and Lannon Lane. The parcel that we uh just had

[34:00] final reading on to reszone to AB is is right here.

[34:06] » The uh parcel is currently AB. And between 2003 and 2009,

[34:13] uh there were 13 properties within this pocket that were reszoned to AB um

[34:22] commercial. And this request involves the applicant um posing a reszoning to

[34:28] AB2. So taking this request

[34:33] and referencing the future land use which is community scale commercial AB2

[34:38] is within the range of applicable zoning districts for community scale

[34:43] commercial. However, uh while that is one factor, I do want to bring to your

[34:52] um reference here what the code has and it's it's not the only factor. Uh when

[34:57] we look at the comp plan being and the future land use, it's it's more

[35:02] multi-perspective than that. the the code gives review criteria for uh

[35:07] resonings and you have to ask the question and these are guiding questions

[35:13] as you look at resonings but you would ask um have there been any changes that

[35:17] would necessitate um and any changes to the conditions or the circumstances in

[35:22] this property that would ne necessitate this resoning uh would the uses allowed

[35:27] um you know from this resoning be appropriate?

[35:31] uh is this a best uh management practice within planning and zoning for this

[35:36] reasonzoning to occur and and finally um is this consistent with the whole of the

[35:42] comprehensive plan not just the future land use map. So, in attempting to

[35:48] answer those questions and respond to this request, um I do have additional

[35:53] information that I can go into uh to kind of help guide that request, but um

[36:01] otherwise uh the applicant is here, but glad to dive into any other subjects you

[36:06] would like. In the bottom lefthand corner, I've got some uh topics that if

[36:11] you had any questions on, I'd be glad to answer. I mean to make the best informed

[36:15] decision possible, Mr. Stone, I think I'd like to see it. Is there agreement?

[36:20] Other members of the commission? Okay. Yeah, if you would go ahead and share

[36:23] that with us. >> So, I'll start off with just a bit of

[36:26] historical context. Um, let's see here.

[36:34] All right. So, both of these properties were annexed and zoned AB in 2009 into

[36:39] the town. In 2018, the property owner requested AB2 zoning just like they're

[36:44] doing now. Um, and this request was denied uh citing inconsistency with the

[36:49] comp comprehensive plan at that time which designated the area as community

[36:53] conservation. You can see everything here in yellow was community

[36:56] conservation. So that that was denied at that time uh just with a lack of

[37:02] consistency with comprehensive plan. The nature of this request is based on

[37:10] uh the property is currently AB and our code enforcement officers uh have

[37:16] noticed that there is outdoor storage of boats and uh parking of construction

[37:21] vehicles and that would require AB2 uh and with a special exception from the

[37:27] board of zoning appeals. So that would be followed by a commercial site review

[37:32] as well. But that is uh the context of this request and why it's before you.

[37:39] If we wanted to look at the surrounding context, you can see as I mentioned

[37:43] between 2003 and 2009, a lot of this is been zoned AB. Uh you have some CC in

[37:49] here that we've recently reszoned, but predominantly this is area wide business

[37:54] commercial. And finally the

[37:59] um comparison between AB and AB2. You can see here that uh in the AB column a

[38:06] lot of not permitted. Um but you get over to AB2 and you get into more of a a

[38:12] higher level review with conditional special exception. Gas station would be

[38:16] permitted. Warehousing and automotive repair would be a special exception as

[38:20] well. So there are certainly some differentiations between AB1 and

[38:25] stepping up to an AB2 uh zoning designation. So that's all the staff

[38:30] has. Glad to answer any questions you might have.

[38:33] » Peter, if you would return to the surrounding context u

[38:38] overview. Yeah.

[38:46] » Okay. >> Mr. Stone, I have one question too. the

[38:49] the parcel that's 1110 on that map is a preschool or some sort of a daycare, I

[38:57] think, isn't it? >> That's correct. It's a daycare.

[38:59] » Okay.

[39:03] » So, there's still quite a number of county um parcels in the immediate area.

[39:09] Correct. Am I reading the map properly? >> That's that's correct. everything

[39:12] without a layer on it and just uh that would be within the four mile you have a

[39:16] lot of the four mile community >> here and this was a part of the four

[39:21] mile community. Um Hunger Neck Boulevard was built in 2003.

[39:24] » Mhm. >> And um this uh this kind of has taken on

[39:30] different identity since. >> Okay.

[39:33] All right. Um questions for Mr. Stone um immediately. If not, we'll we'll ask the

[39:38] applicant to speak. if they're here.

[39:44] Is the applicant present?

[39:49] No. Okay.

[39:53] Um, so any further questions for Mr. Stone on this? If not, maybe we can have

[39:58] a motion. >> U public um I'm sorry public hearing.

[40:02] Yeah, I apologize. Is there anyone who would like to speak on this uh

[40:06] particular proposal?

[40:11] Okay, seeing none, we'll close the uh the public hearing.

[40:15] » Yeah, thanks for correcting me. Go ahead.

[40:17] » I move to approve to reszone AB2. >> Motion's made. Is there a second?

[40:25] » Okay. Is there another motion?

[40:31] » I move to deny.

[40:36] » I'll second. >> Okay. Motion's made by Mr. Davis,

[40:40] seconded by Miss Sanford to deny the request to reszone. Um, all those in

[40:46] favor say I. >> I.

[40:48] » I. >> I.

[40:50] » Opposed. >> One opposed. Okay. Motion to deny

[40:55] carries. All right. Uh, 7 C, a public hearing for

[41:02] 1076 and 1096 Beehive Road.

[41:08] Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is a request for um an aggregate of

[41:14] a total of 1.36 acres. Both of these lots are evenly 0.68.

[41:21] Uh the really the origin of this request came from sewer and water being

[41:27] available and this these two properties are contiguous. So, um they are required

[41:34] to request annexation. Of course, you know, if if it is eventually denied,

[41:38] they would still have ability to gain water and sewer.

[41:42] » So, this is the the property. Um, it is directly across from Tupelo just to kind

[41:49] of give you some some surrounding um context. So, it is important to discuss

[41:56] the existing zoning conditions prior to talking about the the proposed.

[42:01] So I want to cover this and this is currently in the county. It's in

[42:07] the 10mi historic district. It is with it's inside of the urban growth boundary

[42:13] and that current moratorum ordinance um still will apply until July of 26.

[42:20] So I I bring this up because we have had a lot of discussion on this subject, but

[42:26] of all of the properties that we've had these discussions on, this one is pretty

[42:30] straightforward because it is within the urban growth boundary. And in speaking

[42:36] with the county, this was um let's see,

[42:42] in speaking with the county, um I I asked about their their plans for their

[42:46] 10mi overlay district because I wanted to make sure that this request would be

[42:51] consistent with with that plan. And they did agree that in the plan, and they're

[42:57] holding a public hearing on that um new overlay plan on September 8th.

[43:03] And within that proposed plan, right now, this this is uh remaining

[43:07] commercial, but the staff member let me know that they want commercial within

[43:13] that overlay, but not to this level of intensity. And I'll break down what I

[43:18] mean by that. Um, of course, you know that the county's S3 is our town

[43:24] equivalent of CC, community conservation. Mhm.

[43:28] » Community commercial within the county is the equivalent of R AB2. So it's it's

[43:34] a very intense commercial. It has intense density and they are not

[43:39] interested in carrying on that level of intensity into this new overlay

[43:43] district. So it it was consistent in in that fact and so it request to zone both

[43:50] parcels to community conservation uh is consistent with the the county's

[43:55] plan and it's also consistent with our future land use comprehensive plan. So

[44:01] uh those are the um kind of the salient points on that. Again, I do have um some

[44:09] just kind of supplementary information that you may want, but um glad to answer

[44:14] any questions you may have. >> Any questions for Mr. Stone up front?

[44:19] » No, I'd love to see the supplementary information, please.

[44:21] » Yeah, too. >> So, this is the 10mi overlay plan that

[44:27] is uh currently being proposed and we'll have a public hearing on September 8th.

[44:32] This is the parcel right here in red. This is our subject parcel and here's

[44:36] the parcel um behind it. The plan is to uh for this to remain commercial and for

[44:43] this to remain residential. But you can see everything in red uh fronting

[44:47] highway 17 um would be commercial. This is all going to remain just kind of an

[44:53] urban suburban um residential. And this is your rural area. The the parcel that

[45:00] we talked about earlier that is close to 12 acres.

[45:04] Um, and because this is the urban growth boundary line, uh, the density is

[45:08] different than it would be on this side. Um, they're they're moving toward one

[45:13] unit per three acres past this urban growth b boundary line. And since this

[45:18] is inside it, it definitely makes things a little more simple and in reviewing a

[45:23] a reszoning request. the

[45:28] let's see. Oh, so this is the uh town and county um zoning comparison just

[45:34] showing what what I mean by community commercial within the county and the

[45:40] level of intensity of uses that it provides versus the commercial and

[45:44] non-re residential uses you would get from a community conservation because it

[45:49] is a um kind of a mistake to think that CC community conservation is strictly

[45:55] residential. it has non-residential and commercial uses within it that would fit

[46:01] in with what the county is currently proposing.

[46:06] » And this is just all the the CC non-residential uses that could be um

[46:11] applicable to the site if it if it is zoned CC. So that's all the staff has

[46:16] right now. >> Great. Thank you. Any further questions

[46:20] for Mr. Stone at the moment? Did I hear you say correctly that the county is

[46:24] still in the public hearing process? >> Correct.

[46:26] » Okay.

[46:30] » Also, one question. Um, the CC, the parcel that's currently commercial in

[46:37] the county, if it came in and went to CC, even though some of those uses would

[46:43] be allowed, you know, the sort of less >> um invasive type of uses, they would be

[46:49] free to make it residential. I mean it's up to the it's up to the developer or

[46:53] the owner. So um is this also part of the moratorum on subdivisions? So that

[47:01] even though it's three per acre um if he put if you count those two parcels

[47:07] together it would be six per acre and maybe seven because there's an extra

[47:12] third of an acre and then that would not be allowed right now. Is that is am I

[47:16] following that properly? >> So I'll I'll take those one at a time.

[47:20] Okay. >> Um, yes, with community conservation,

[47:23] that is the nice thing about that. You're flexible to do residential, but

[47:26] you're also flexible to to move forward with these non-residential and

[47:29] commercial uses. >> The the moratorum would apply here, and

[47:35] it would be three units an acre. The moratorum is for um anything five lots

[47:42] or more. The wording of it is four lots or fewer is a minor subdivision, and

[47:47] those are those are exempt. Um but five or more would be currently in with for

[47:55] the next year July of 26 those will be prohibited.

[48:01] » Okay. >> Okay. Additional questions for Mr.

[48:05] Stone. If not we'll um request the applicant to

[48:10] uh present or provide an opportunity to they present. Yes sir. Please, if you

[48:17] would, sir, um, state your name and address for the record.

[48:21] » My name is My name is Keith Barley.

[48:25] » Mhm. >> And I reside at 103 Theodore Road in

[48:30] Owland. >> Okay.

[48:32] » Um, you know, this piece of property has been rather difficult piece of property

[48:36] to wrap our heads around on how to develop it based on

[48:39] » all the uh different aspects of it, whether in the county or coming into

[48:43] town of Mount Pleasant. But after going through, you know, so many different um

[48:50] breakdowns and processes with the town and the county on what's what's

[48:54] available, we've come to the conclusion, we'd like to come into the town of Mount

[48:59] Pleasant, but we're looking at just basically building two residential

[49:03] houses, one on each lot, >> is kind of what our conclusion is based

[49:07] on as a commercial lot is basically not large enough to really make sense to

[49:12] develop out with the requirements of parking setbacks and everything. So,

[49:16] we're thinking just two residential um houses, one on each lot,

[49:20] » would be the best use for it. >> That's kind of where we're at with it,

[49:24] but we would like the annex in the town of Mount Pleasant to do that.

[49:26] » Okay, great. Anything for the applicant while we've got them.

[49:33] » Anything else, sir? Appreciate it. Thank you.

[49:37] » Okay, this is a public hearing. Uh so if there are comments from the public that

[49:42] um anyone would like to make on this project, now would be the time for that.

[49:49] Okay. Seeing none, we will close the public uh hearing portion of uh this

[49:54] particular proposal. All right. Um further questions,

[49:59] comments, discussion, or maybe motions?

[50:04] » Mr. Chairman, I'll make a motion. Um, you know, I think on especially on that

[50:08] front parcel, it's obviously this is more or less a downzoning in my opinion

[50:13] from what the county allows. Uh, so I'll make a motion to approve

[50:17] » uh for annexation and reszoning to CC. Great.

[50:21] » Second. >> Motion made and seconded to reszone to

[50:24] community conservation. Um, we'll take a vote. All those in

[50:29] favor say I. >> I.

[50:30] » I. >> Any opposed?

[50:33] Motion carries unanimously. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Thanks, Peter. All

[50:37] right, we move to 7D. Presentation from um engineering uh

[50:43] department. >> Yes, she's leaving.

[50:48] » Um this is uh y'all, this is very casual. This is just going to recap uh

[50:53] some things and uh hopefully it'll be useful to some of y'all. And if y'all

[50:57] are on a schedule, I know it's the last item on the agenda. Please feel free to

[51:01] exit on out. Um but I do, you know, want it to be interactive. If so, if y'all

[51:05] have any questions as I kind of go through this um very quickly, just a few

[51:09] minutes uh of a presentation. And uh it kind of dawned on me last

[51:15] month that uh when I when we went through some of the kind of the legacy

[51:20] type discussions on subdividing property, is that maybe a a good

[51:26] uh presentation of how a lot gets subdivided, some of the steps involved,

[51:31] the planning commission's roles and responsibilities,

[51:35] um and then how it moves through the building permit uh process, and uh and

[51:40] hopefully if we have enough time, we can talk a little bit about the current

[51:43] workload and volume. But um last last month I did hear that you know things

[51:50] were you had to approve a subdivision if it met all lot dimensional requirements

[51:55] and I don't I I I tend to disagree with that. Um I don't think that you are

[52:00] hamstrong into approving a subdivision just because of lot dimensional

[52:05] requirements. There are many other aspects that go into creating a new lot

[52:10] that uh that do need to be considered and uh so hopefully this is kind of the

[52:15] start of maybe some discussion on what those aspects can be. Uh starting from

[52:20] the very beginning um you know South Carolina is a home rule uh state which

[52:26] means that um you know we are can make up our own rules and regulations. We are

[52:32] not a creature of the state of South Carolina. We we do abide by their rules

[52:38] and regulations, but we can create our own rules and regulations as long as

[52:43] we're not in conflict with state uh code. Also, another important piece

[52:49] is uh something you're probably already familiar with is the 94 uh comprehensive

[52:54] uh enabling legislation um that kind of sets the guidelines and standards for

[53:00] creating a comprehensive plan. every so often because of that comprehensive

[53:04] plan. Uh the state does recognize and support our zoning and land development

[53:10] regulations. Those are the two main chapters when you go to subdivide

[53:14] property. Zoning of course that's land use density and intensity and also the

[53:20] design value of what's being created. Uh the land development regulations,

[53:27] the way I look at it, they do go hand inand land development regulations are

[53:31] what I would consider kind of the tools in the tool bag. They're a little bit

[53:34] more technical. They provide the standards. Uh they have safety criteria.

[53:40] Uh they also ensure the integrity of uh subdivisions infrastructure that's being

[53:46] installed. Um, and also, uh, they do they're set up to also incorporate the

[53:54] or offset the larger impacts that a subdivision would, um, would come with

[54:00] it. So, those two are somewhat jointly related. And if you did read the state

[54:05] code, they would almost kind of marry each other in their in their language.

[54:10] So, just the zoning real quick. I uh hopefully some of y'all have read

[54:16] some of the uh some of the language straight out of uh 62930

[54:21] that does give the planning commission the powers and functions to make

[54:24] recommendations as it relates to the use of building structures and land. Um also

[54:31] the density specifically says the density of development. So as we talked

[54:36] about last month or the month before that we can look at density criteria in

[54:42] in uh say the old village area if that is so choose. Also uh open space size of

[54:50] yards that's setbacks the planning commission can make recommendations on

[54:54] where that open space is located if it needs to be moved. A lot of times you'll

[54:59] have open space calculations that are surrounding ponds. Well, well, the open

[55:03] space around ponds, that's not exactly a usable area. A kid can't throw a ball

[55:08] with his dad next to a pond, obviously. So, you know, those type of of things

[55:14] can uh can create commentary or comments and and you know, deferral of of

[55:21] subdivisions to uh to make sure that that those type of aspects are part of a

[55:25] subdivision. Also, uh it does specifically say other

[55:30] aspects. included tree preservation, uh landscaping, which we really don't

[55:37] talk about landscaping. We are rarely focused on trees, but landscaping is

[55:42] included in the state code, and that allows the planning commission to make

[55:45] recommendations on buffer, lighting, and curb cuts. So uh so there's a lot of

[55:52] elements that should be considered when you do subdivide uh property that don't

[55:58] really you know uh have the uh the attention that I you know I think it

[56:03] really should have. Um so the process uh there were some questions

[56:11] I think over here Miss Sanford I believe you last month you you you talked about

[56:15] how uh what the process was. So, I created this neat little graphic here

[56:20] that kind of separates into 12 little tick marks which kind of represent

[56:24] months, but that's not exactly how this goes. This is somewhat of a an exhibit

[56:29] of uh of the steps that are involved with subdividing property. Uh we have

[56:35] something called a DRT or development review team that's made up of storm

[56:40] water transportation, Mount Pleasant waterworks, planning department, fire

[56:44] department also uh joins us on occasions. The first step is to contact

[56:50] our DRT coordinator Mave and she sets up a a very high level meeting with the

[56:57] applicant and the applicant can set this meeting up at no charge at any time they

[57:01] would like to set this up. There's no set formal uh schedule for this. Um

[57:08] and that is sole purpose is to provide high level feedback. If you're looking

[57:12] at buying a piece of property, you don't know it's going to be subdivided. Have a

[57:16] DRT or DRT feasibility meeting with ME. We all get together, look at it

[57:21] virtually. We talk to the applicant. We let them know is the water and sewer

[57:25] available. Will they have to extend a hydrant to get there? uh what access you

[57:30] know uh is going to be a concern the trees that you know they need to

[57:34] understand what the tree regulations are. So all that stuff is brought to

[57:37] them when they are even thinking about either purchasing a property or how

[57:41] they're going to go about uh developing the property. It's been very helpful uh

[57:47] to have that and most everybody that I've been on at feasibility meeting has

[57:52] really appreciated the the commentary and the feedback we've provided uh them

[57:57] because they're getting ready to make a huge investment or expense with with

[58:01] engineering and surveying to get to the next level.

[58:04] The next step uh it's a little bit more structured. We do have a monthly

[58:08] schedule with the DR uh the DRT uh review. We call that a conceptual plan.

[58:15] That is okay. You've gone to the next step. You've got scaled engineering

[58:18] drawings. You have your tree survey. Uh you have your uh your other elements

[58:23] that you've investigated. You submit about two weeks ahead of the the

[58:28] deadline or you submit prior to the deadline. And that deadline gives us

[58:34] about four weeks to get the review and comments done and back to the applicant.

[58:40] Okay. So, I've got uh two one and a half ticks here. It that's that would be a

[58:47] very good cemental. Okay. Uh a lot of times we have comments and they'll

[58:51] resubmit. We'll review and we'll provide maybe another commentary or two, but we

[58:56] we end up trying to get them uh through the process. But if everything works

[59:00] very well and it's an easy simple one lot into two, it usually takes about a

[59:05] month and a half to kind of get through a conceptual step from there. That's

[59:11] where it uh it has to meet the planning commission uh deadline which is monthly

[59:16] of course and uh and that's about a month four weeks ahead of the scheduled

[59:21] meeting. Uh and then we present, you know, a very uh scaledback staff version

[59:27] if there's any remaining comments that um with the application that we will

[59:33] read them aloud here for you guys. And um and then that moves through in about

[59:38] a month. And if there's no infrastructure involved with this

[59:42] subdivision, if it's one light into two, you can actually from your planning

[59:46] commission with a favorable uh vote, you can actually move into a final plat

[59:52] which gets authorized at staff level. So there shouldn't be really too much left

[59:57] if you're doing a simple subdivision. Now, if you're dedicating infrastructure

[1:00:01] to the town, it does get a little bit more involved because there is another

[1:00:05] step of technical review. that is the engineer has developed

[1:00:12] construction drawings to install the streets, drainage, pond,

[1:00:17] uh water, sewer, they have their storm water, sediment, rose control. A lot

[1:00:22] goes into that. You know, four four months is very tight. uh you know

[1:00:29] sometimes the applicant is working on that concurrently as he's moving through

[1:00:33] but once they get planning commission approval they become vested and then

[1:00:38] they're able they're able or guaranteed to actually go through with their

[1:00:42] development plan. Um and of course we provide comments. It

[1:00:47] goes back to the applicant. they address the comments and then it will eventually

[1:00:54] um go through and get a final DRT stamp and

[1:00:59] that does include the MS4 which is their water quality and uh and then they're

[1:01:04] able to move through with the construction. Now construction takes

[1:01:08] years. So just for this exhibit it just shows a number of ticks but

[1:01:14] so when they install the infrastructure we have our own inspectors. the town

[1:01:18] does. We have four field inspectors. Two of them, they look at the SWIP, which is

[1:01:24] the storm water pollution prevention plan, and the tree protection zone. They

[1:01:28] provide a clearing and grading permit before they even start construction. Uh

[1:01:34] they are out there with the uh contractor walking the site, making sure

[1:01:39] that the tree protection's up, making sure the silt fence is up, the

[1:01:42] construction entrance is in. Then they authorize a clearing and grading for

[1:01:46] them to move forward. The other two inspectors, those are our

[1:01:51] roadway and our storm uh water inspectors or storm water pipe

[1:01:55] inspectors. They actually follow the project much closely um working with the

[1:02:01] contractor when they uh do the uh the mass grading, the rough grading for the

[1:02:06] road, the subgrade, the base course and the asphalt. and and of course the pipe

[1:02:11] gets inspected when it when it's delivered and it gets inspected when

[1:02:14] it's in the trench and again it gets inspected uh the compaction gets

[1:02:18] expected at that at lifts throughout the installation of the storm water pipe. So

[1:02:23] there's a lot that kind of goes into uh installing the infrastructure to make

[1:02:27] sure that it's when it's turned over to the town of Mount Pleasant, we have

[1:02:30] something that is going to last and it's not going to be a burden to the

[1:02:33] taxpayers. Um, so they move through the

[1:02:38] construction process, the final plat process, then that occurs

[1:02:43] at the very end of that process. Whereas if it didn't have infrastructure, it

[1:02:47] could have occurred in a month or two after the planning commission, but

[1:02:52] because of the construction process, it does occur much later. That is the final

[1:02:57] leverage and authority um that holds the developer to uh make sure that he does

[1:03:04] everything he needs to do to have all the infrastructure in place before he is

[1:03:09] able to sell property. When the subdivision plaque gets authorized,

[1:03:15] uh they provide the two-year warranty, they provide the bond, they provide the

[1:03:19] certification for work material and workmanship, they provide the u permits

[1:03:25] to operate for the water and sewer. Uh tree mitigation is also done. And um

[1:03:32] there's a whole checklist and the final inspection reports from our field

[1:03:35] engineers. Uh they're all submitted in one package. It gets signed by staff and

[1:03:41] then they take that final plat go to the Charleston RD office create the lots.

[1:03:46] The county gives them tax map numbers and then they become taxable

[1:03:51] transferable fee simple lots to be sold to individuals to then go then go

[1:03:58] vertical. So from land development now you've got

[1:04:04] your individual lots you got your infrastructure in now the uh the

[1:04:09] homeowner or whoever wants to go vertical. Well the folks that are

[1:04:14] involved with that that is a combination planning department they look there the

[1:04:19] authority of zoning authority of lot orientation and setbacks.

[1:04:25] The engineering development services that is my team which is the engineering

[1:04:30] develop engineering and environmental division. We look at the tree standards.

[1:04:36] This is for single family residents only by the way. Tree standards, your storm

[1:04:41] water uh management plan. We ensure the quality of the survey and the and the

[1:04:46] physical conditions are all incorporated into the submitt.

[1:04:52] Um, and then the storm water, you know, we look at that from a perspective of

[1:04:56] the common enemy rule, uh, which is kind of like the golden rule is what I call

[1:05:01] is like take care of your own water. Don't cast your water over to your

[1:05:05] neighbors. Make sure that your water is going to where it should be going to the

[1:05:10] front or the back. Um, and also don't impede the flow of water that's coming

[1:05:16] off site. You actually have to manage if it's naturally if you're on a hill and

[1:05:20] you're developing downhill, you have to manage that water that's coming to you

[1:05:25] around your property. You cannot impede the flow of of water from offsite if

[1:05:30] it's naturally coming in your direction. So you can't impede and you can't impact

[1:05:34] is what we say. Um and also we look at it from a safety

[1:05:39] aspects too. Um you know the access points and and things of that nature. So

[1:05:45] that's what you know we do and we we take a look at it and then uh you know

[1:05:48] we have the trees located on there as well. So concurrently with the the the

[1:05:53] review our building uh inspections division they look at the IBC the

[1:05:58] vertical stuff and and they're the ones that are responsible for the building

[1:06:02] permit administration. So

[1:06:07] so going just a little bit more into that um that's the roles and authority.

[1:06:12] This is the workflow. So, if an applicant comes into the town, uh, they

[1:06:17] want to pull a building permit. We have an online portal. It's called Oracle,

[1:06:23] and they're able to upload their plans through our website. Now, this is fairly

[1:06:28] new. I think it's about six, eight months, been around. Uh, so we're still

[1:06:32] working the kind of the the bugs and the kinks out a little bit, but has been

[1:06:35] very effective in tracking uh what we do internally.

[1:06:40] Uh all applications come through the building permit division.

[1:06:45] A part of that application we have the site plan review that goes in the

[1:06:50] planning department looks at it as well as my division looks at it for the storm

[1:06:55] water and trees. That's all part of one bundle when it comes in.

[1:07:00] uh our our guys, they go out and they do a courtesy site inspection to ensure the

[1:07:06] tree accuracy and and to identify and recognize any other kind of unique site

[1:07:11] conditions that could be that could be missing from their plan. Um and then

[1:07:17] also then once that's done, they become building permit eligible.

[1:07:22] Once they become uh once the building inspection department is done with their

[1:07:26] review uh then they actually release the building permit at that time. So we hold

[1:07:31] the building permit until we actually have visited the site. We've looked at

[1:07:35] the trees. We've looked at the storm water and then they're released for the

[1:07:41] building the building permit. We do the tree protection zone um inspections. We

[1:07:47] also do the erosion control inspections all at the same time. Uh that's the

[1:07:52] initial inspection. We don't really go back to that site throughout the

[1:07:55] development process. We only go back to that site if it's needed. And we also

[1:08:00] have a final inspection that's all programmed into this software that we

[1:08:06] have. So um

[1:08:10] uh and then the building division releases the certificate of occupancy.

[1:08:15] Any questions on that particular one? It's, you know, very scaled down, but it

[1:08:19] is a fairly good process where we do have the checks and balances we need by

[1:08:25] holding the building permit until the site inspections done. They check off

[1:08:29] internally when they have completed it and then they become eligible for

[1:08:33] building permit. So, it's >> it's very structured process. Yes,

[1:08:38] ma'am. >> One question. When you say other

[1:08:40] inspections as needed, is that if there is somebody who complains about the site

[1:08:46] or if the applicant comes back and says something has changed, I've got an

[1:08:50] issue. >> Both. Yeah, both. If we get a complaint,

[1:08:54] we go back out to the site. >> Our guys have already established

[1:08:59] hopefully a good positive relationship with the builder. the builder, you know,

[1:09:03] his main objective is to finish his project and so he's willing and able to

[1:09:08] cooperate most of the time uh to get whatever is the issue is resolved. Um

[1:09:16] because he knows a little bit of grading is very inexpensive to do. Um but yes,

[1:09:22] that is yes, they go back as needed and we kind of anticipate some problems too.

[1:09:28] So, so that is their that is their kind of

[1:09:31] scaled down process. So, shifting gears a little bit.

[1:09:35] » Can I ask one question? >> Yes, ma'am.

[1:09:37] » Is that inclusive of where I see at number five certificate of occupancy?

[1:09:42] So, does that include the construction process too of like electrical rough

[1:09:46] inspection, plumbing rough in inspection?

[1:09:50] » Yep. I did not include that because we're just focusing on the storm water

[1:09:54] tree and the site plan review. But if I were to include that, there'd be a whole

[1:09:59] list of those type items, >> right,

[1:10:02] » that run concurrently with our inspection. So, yes, that is that's all

[1:10:06] incorporated into that Oracle package there.

[1:10:09] » And Kevin, if you would um a page or two back, um the two-year warranty, explain

[1:10:14] that. >> Yeah, that two-year warranty.

[1:10:18] » Yeah. Uh well, it's it's been standard ever since I've been here is to have the

[1:10:24] developer and engineer uh or developer and contractor sign off on the material

[1:10:29] and workmanship and the developer certifying that he will uh warranty this

[1:10:36] uh dedication of the infrastructure for a two-year period. It is a certification

[1:10:41] and it's notorized, certified, put in. We also have a 20% cost of total

[1:10:46] infrastructure that is also submitted in a financial guarantee to support that

[1:10:51] which isn't much but als more more or less represents

[1:10:57] the uh the intent of the owner dedicating this and being complete. If

[1:11:04] there are serious problems of course then you get into the the legal world of

[1:11:08] of back and forth and they get consultants. We get consultants. doesn't

[1:11:12] last for many many years, but there is that show of intent. It is supposed to

[1:11:17] last for at least two years with and we do a warranty inspection as well before

[1:11:23] we release the bond. >> Yeah. Yeah. There's a there's a lot that

[1:11:28] is submitted with those final plat packages that um that you know legally

[1:11:34] covers this the best we possibly can. Uh

[1:11:40] so touching a little bit on workload and I'll be done. So uh something that many

[1:11:47] folks may not be aware of uh I created this little chart here um with some

[1:11:53] information that I received from our building inspections division. Uh this

[1:11:58] graph shows the past five years of what building permits that are not upfits,

[1:12:05] which means all building permits that are submitted to the town that don't uh

[1:12:10] that are outside of an upfit. That's inside improvement like decks, uh ADUs,

[1:12:17] uh new homes. That's what these numbers represent. Uh

[1:12:23] the bottom orange numbers represent the new homes and the top uh represents

[1:12:29] everything else the non non homes. So as you can see from 2021 we kind of peaked

[1:12:37] and we're trending every year down and so far 2025 seems to be a little bit

[1:12:43] more of an uptick on the new residential homes that we that we receive. But still

[1:12:50] it is still going to be in a downward uh type of trend. And just to give you a

[1:12:56] sense of scale and workload that 2023 that monthly average is 70

[1:13:04] and uh 68 for 2024. Uh that's how many permit applications

[1:13:10] that go through that process that we just talked about uh with our siden with

[1:13:16] our two sight inspectors. So um so yeah the average that the yellow line

[1:13:24] is the average is 922 permits every year that our build inspection department

[1:13:29] administers >> that um Kevin

[1:13:32] » that you know I think it's worth >> talking about

[1:13:35] » the all others that's external stuff right and would that include pools

[1:13:40] » pools addition decks ADUs etc like you said additions okay

[1:13:45] » yes ma'am yeah we Our stormwater team inspects the pools,

[1:13:52] » the additions, the decks. So they uh they you know they have to take it

[1:13:59] through their process um everything but kind of upsets because you're really not

[1:14:02] doing anything. >> So I had a question go back to the

[1:14:05] previous chart. So 2025 are those numbers to date or are they annualized

[1:14:10] because we still have four months left in the year.

[1:14:12] » Right. No, that's just to date. So, if you were annualize that number, you

[1:14:17] think it' be closer to 2024? >> Uh, yeah. Yeah, we'll probably be closer

[1:14:22] to 2024 total. Probably a little bit more

[1:14:26] » new homes, I think. >> So, it's kind of stable in like maybe

[1:14:29] even closer to 2023 then. So, so there's really not a downturn as you if if you

[1:14:35] go back and analyze all this. Well, if you want me to go back to 1999 and look

[1:14:41] at the chart, then we will definitely see a downturn from from two early 2000s

[1:14:48] the way we were developing to the last two five years. Um, you would see a much

[1:14:54] significant difference between these numbers and those numbers.

[1:14:57] » And is the takeaway for us that th this volume is more manageable for the

[1:15:02] department or what what what should we conclude from? takeaway is is uh you

[1:15:07] know I think there's there's there's kind of a little bit of a misconception

[1:15:11] that uh those one or two problem children out there we want to say that's

[1:15:16] just one of you know 800 that we've already seen that entire year.

[1:15:23] uh you know we've had 700 that have actually been a successful process uh

[1:15:30] and have gone successfully through a process but there's that small few that

[1:15:34] seems to get a lot of attention and uh we spend a lot of time on those

[1:15:40] small handful that um that sometimes there's really no solution honestly uh

[1:15:46] you know we you know it is what it is and and you know we do the best we can

[1:15:51] to manage it but you know those are the ones that seem to get a lot of the

[1:15:54] attention when there's 800 that we've already

[1:15:58] uh uh managed and and brought through the process. And and lastly, this is my

[1:16:03] last slide here, is is this is done by two uh storm water code guys. So, I'm

[1:16:09] the deputy director. I do have project engineer that looks at all the other

[1:16:14] projects that come through the town, the commercial as well, but uh she helps me

[1:16:18] with she actually manages the uh the single family uh code uh program and we

[1:16:25] have two code inspectors and those two code inspectors, their main job is to

[1:16:30] build a good relationship with the builder and owner. include the owner in

[1:16:34] as much as possible with what they're doing because the builder is telling the

[1:16:38] owner and the owner's you know getting upset and you know so I tell them to

[1:16:44] include the owner as much as they possibly can when when matters and

[1:16:48] issues come up. So so that's it. I you know I I want to end with uh you know

[1:16:55] this is a kind of an open discussion. And this is for y'all to consider, look

[1:17:00] at, uh, have any ideas. I can come back next

[1:17:04] month. We can talk about density calculations,

[1:17:08] other things that are going on in the town. We can, uh, we can show some

[1:17:13] examples of our storm water uh, designs and some of the things we we do review.

[1:17:19] We can we can provide some examples. There's also there's character defining

[1:17:24] features that we don't really talk about such as fences. I was in I'm in the old

[1:17:28] village a good bit. Uh the fences that are going up are very noticeable in a

[1:17:34] lot of these larger homes that are being built. They're now putting up these huge

[1:17:39] fences that go all the way to the rightway. So that really changes the

[1:17:46] character of of the neighborhood in my opinion is when you block off that view.

[1:17:53] Um so that doesn't get any discussion at at planning commission at least not that

[1:17:58] what I've heard. There's also density. You know the scale is what we've what

[1:18:02] we've talked about as well. Uh we also something that might be worth presenting

[1:18:07] to is a residential low impact program. um environmental uh managers kind of

[1:18:12] moving through the uh green commission with that and and uh it might be worth

[1:18:17] you know uh for him to come and and give you an example of you know what they're

[1:18:23] planning on doing. Also another thing that we're doing it's very interesting

[1:18:27] is that is the sea level rise study. We've targeted a couple of areas.

[1:18:32] They've got this GIS model that shows the ocean as it comes in in 2050 and how

[1:18:38] it recedes and what areas it it actually covers and the depth of those areas. We

[1:18:44] looked at, you know, two areas right now in town. That's the end of Hadel Street

[1:18:47] and then up there around Daryl Creek Commonwealth area.

[1:18:52] uh we will be releasing that and putting that on the internet uh pretty soon but

[1:18:59] um you know I'd be happy to come and and present the the findings of those two

[1:19:05] those studies as well that of course could also result in planning commission

[1:19:10] issues because that's going to have a perception of a

[1:19:15] threat that's going to be coming into the folks that live on the uh the marsh

[1:19:19] area and you know information is going to be valuable and it's going to be key

[1:19:22] in that situation because there's going to be some hysteria and you know fear

[1:19:27] mongling that's going to go on. So, uh having good information for residents uh

[1:19:32] is going to be our our main objective in that particular u item. And then also

[1:19:38] we're looking at wetland ordinances too. So

[1:19:43] we're just now kind of embarking on that. City of Bluton has approved

[1:19:47] wetland ordinances for them. The mayor is uh wanting us to draft up some

[1:19:52] wetland ordinance that are similar to the Bluffton ordinances and we are kind

[1:19:57] of moving through that right now. Uh but yes, we be happy to present those or

[1:20:03] anything else that the planning commission would like to see or or be a

[1:20:07] little bit more knowledgeable on. Um so that's what the purpose of this

[1:20:11] presentation is. Sorry to take so much time.

[1:20:14] » No, thank you. um input and um prioritization on these topics or others

[1:20:19] for Kevin thoughts. >> I think this is great. The only other

[1:20:23] thing I can think of that I'm always curious about is the commercial side of

[1:20:27] things. So you were talking about the single family,

[1:20:30] » but so many times by the time we see something a commercial plan presented,

[1:20:35] » it's been undergoing a lot of work and sometimes developers will say it's been

[1:20:39] several years. And so I'm kind of curious about that, you know, to how can

[1:20:44] we get a better handle on it earlier, >> right,

[1:20:47] » before things go so far that developers get upset when they don't get what they

[1:20:52] » I'll I'll make a note of that and we will uh I'll go through the commercial

[1:20:56] process and we could consider, you know, >> what that all entails. Uh DRB gets

[1:21:03] involved with that. Design review board also gets involved with that. So

[1:21:07] » uh yeah, I think that's a great topic. We'll we'll definitely roll something

[1:21:10] out and have something similar for you next month.

[1:21:12] » Thank you. >> Other suggestions or requests of Kevin,

[1:21:18] » Kevin Barry, you don't really want to hear anything about storm water.

[1:21:22] » Well, I've heard a lot about it. Um, but uh I I Kevin, I like these topics. I

[1:21:27] mean, I think uh the density calculations may be good for the group.

[1:21:31] And then you brought up a good point on the fences. Um,

[1:21:34] » you know, that that's a topic, >> you know, I'm not sure, you know, where

[1:21:38] or how we could would fall in with that, but um, but it would be good something

[1:21:43] to look at because I, as far as I know, there's no regulations associated with

[1:21:47] it. Um, >> no, there's not. Uh, and and folks will

[1:21:51] put up a tall wood stockade fence that is a wall. It's a, you know, it's a wall

[1:21:56] and it goes straight to the ground. and think about it if everybody else

[1:22:01] did, you know, what that would do to the actual subdivision itself. So,

[1:22:05] » and the village historic district preservation commission doesn't follow

[1:22:09] the guidelines very closely in that regard.

[1:22:12] » And I can think of one example um in an area that does not have an HOA, but it's

[1:22:17] not the old village where a homeowner has put up these huge it looks like

[1:22:22] something going to Windsor Castle. It's like big brick,

[1:22:26] » you know, front fence thing with I I swear they're probably going to have

[1:22:29] lions on the top of the things. Um, and that is also sort of interesting that it

[1:22:34] creates a very different feel for the neighborhood.

[1:22:37] » But there's no HOA. I mean, in mine, we couldn't we wouldn't allow that, but you

[1:22:41] know, in places where they don't have those rules,

[1:22:45] » and that can be very tricky when you talk about aesthetics,

[1:22:49] » things of that nature. But, you know, the the scale and dimension, we don't

[1:22:54] have anything and and the um and the opakquakeness of it all, right? You

[1:22:58] know, whether it's a big brick wall or a fence, stockgate fence. Um Kevin, as as

[1:23:04] suggested a little earlier, I think the density calculations uh primmer on that

[1:23:09] would make a lot of sense for us right now, especially given the conversation

[1:23:12] we've had or maybe the ongoing conversation we had the last two or

[1:23:16] three sessions and you know some of the concern and pressure that we're hearing

[1:23:20] from citizens around um you know the community on on that very matter. So

[1:23:26] more we can understand how to measure and evaluate that I think the better

[1:23:31] served could be. >> Yeah.

[1:23:32] » Okay. Yeah. I'll be happy to. >> Yeah. Mr. D.

[1:23:35] » Yeah. So I have one question. So the sea level rise. So

[1:23:37] » Yes sir. >> Can you explain that? I mean we're not

[1:23:39] the aisle of palms. We're not Sullivan. >> We're not.

[1:23:41] » And so is this be because of the marsh or just you know just what's the point

[1:23:46] of all that one? >> Yeah. We're not we're not uh saying that

[1:23:49] the town of Mount Pleasant uh is anywhere close to being a condition like

[1:23:54] Alapons or Sullivan's Island. Uh we are saying that there are some pockets and

[1:23:59] areas within the town >> that they will and already are seeing

[1:24:05] some uh some changes in in some of the u their environment when it comes to high

[1:24:12] tides and getting rid of >> like like Longpoint Road and areas like

[1:24:17] that. >> Yes sir. Longpoint Road will be one of

[1:24:19] our lowest points. Matter of fact, Williams Street in the old village is

[1:24:23] elevation 3.4 four mean sea level and that is

[1:24:27] » uh that is the lowest point I think in Mount Pleasant there and they flood even

[1:24:33] on a sunny day at a at a regular high tide they get water in the street so

[1:24:38] » uh they're going to be significantly impacted um in 50 years

[1:24:43] » but it's time to kind of >> provide that kind of information because

[1:24:47] it's already being talked about you know so having information available to

[1:24:53] residents that are concerned concerns that they hear gossiping and things like

[1:24:57] that about how bad it's going to be or or what the conditions are. I think it'd

[1:25:01] be good to have reliable information for those concerned citizens that we have in

[1:25:07] those low areas. >> Yeah, I agree with that. I I agree with

[1:25:09] that 100%. >> Anything else?

[1:25:13] » In in rough form, I think you've got some sense for the interest and

[1:25:17] priorities. So, >> great.

[1:25:19] » Yeah. Uh let's uh we can do the sea level rise in a couple of months. We can

[1:25:23] do the commercial review process next week and then we could talk about some

[1:25:27] of the density calculations. >> Could you do the commercial the month

[1:25:31] after next because I'm not going to be here next month and I want to hear it

[1:25:34] density >> point of personal you know we'll talk

[1:25:38] about density at next month and then uh >> we'll do the commercial after that.

[1:25:43] » Okay. Thank you so much. >> Okay. Thank you'all.

[1:25:45] » Thank you >> David. rules of procedure for 2025 or

[1:25:51] maybe that was M. >> Yep. Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, that

[1:25:54] actually goes hand inand with what Kev was discussing. This was brought up by

[1:25:58] Miss Ireland of getting items on the agenda uh sponsored by uh members of the

[1:26:04] body. So, this is a based on what we heard uh last month. I've revised the

[1:26:11] text in the this proposed revision and uh would just need y'all to vote up or

[1:26:18] down on whether you're okay with the language and that would allow for a

[1:26:23] member of the body with at least um two additional sponsoring board members and

[1:26:28] at least 15 days in advance to add agenda items to the meeting.

[1:26:32] » I move to adopt the leg of the language as amended, should I say.

[1:26:37] » Second. Okay.

[1:26:41] Any discussion? If not, we'll call for a vote. All those in favor say I. I.

[1:26:45] » Any opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Great. I think that makes a lot of

[1:26:50] sense. Thanks for that, uh, gentlemen. Okay, I think we're adjourned.

[1:26:55] » Thank you.

[1:27:08] See you Peter.

August 20th, 2025 - TOMP Planning Commission Meeting

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