[0:05] testing. Testing

[0:09] » testing. Is the mic on it?

[0:16] » Tess. All right.

[0:18] >> Thank you, Sophie.

[0:21] >> Good evening, everybody. Our August 24,

[0:24] 2026 meeting is called to order. We're

[0:27] going to begin the meeting with um

[0:30] prayer first and then we're going to

[0:33] recite the pledge together. Will we

[0:34] stand for prayer and pledge at this

[0:36] time?

[0:41] Let us pray. Oh dear God, we come before

[0:44] you once again thanking you for the

[0:47] opportunity to serve such a great

[0:49] community. God, it's my prayer and

[0:51] desire that individuals who live here

[0:53] will begin to see how special, how great

[0:56] of a community that this really is. I

[0:58] know many do, but I pray that even more

[1:00] so will. Lord God, I thank you that you

[1:02] would keep us safe again as we are

[1:04] looking at a calendar of of events, that

[1:07] those would be put on well, that they

[1:09] would be uh well attended, that people

[1:12] will enjoy themselves, take in

[1:13] everything that Nakatish has to offer.

[1:16] God, we also thank you for the meeting

[1:17] that's before us tonight. uh there are

[1:19] some agenda items. We pray that we uh

[1:24] will be willing and able to voice our

[1:26] opinions, but that we will do it in an

[1:27] orderly way. We will do it in a

[1:29] respectful way. Always reminded of what

[1:31] the scripture says. Whatever we do, let

[1:33] us do it decently and in order. So I

[1:35] pray that that's what we do on tonight.

[1:37] Thank you for keeping us, keeping our

[1:39] youth, and that we continue to make the

[1:41] city of Nakadesh a better place. It's in

[1:43] your son Jesus name we ask. Amen.

[1:45] >> Amen. And will you please join us in

[1:47] reciting the pledge of

[1:48] >> allegiance

[1:51] to the flag of the United States of

[1:53] America and to the republic for which it

[1:56] stands. One nation under God,

[2:00] indivisibley

[2:03] for all.

[2:05] >> All right. Awesome. Thank you all so

[2:07] much. Our next item on the agenda is the

[2:11] reading and approval of the minutes from

[2:13] our most recent meeting on August 10th.

[2:16] >> May I make a motion that we dispense

[2:18] with the reading of the minutes of

[2:20] August August 10th and that the minutes

[2:22] be adopted as recorded.

[2:25] >> Second.

[2:26] Motion's made and seconded. Any comments

[2:29] or questions about this particular

[2:31] motion?

[2:33] >> All right. Seeing none, Mr. Stacy, roll

[2:35] call vote.

[2:36] >> Eli,

[2:36] >> yes. Nelson,

[2:38] >> yes.

[2:38] >> Smith, Kirkindall,

[2:39] >> yes.

[2:40] >> Harrington,

[2:41] >> yes.

[2:41] >> PT,

[2:42] >> yes.

[2:42] >> That motion carries.

[2:44] >> Before we move on, I just want to share

[2:46] some instructions that we share every

[2:49] meeting. The city council encourages

[2:51] public participation

[2:53] um and appreciates it when citizens

[2:56] bring their issues of community concern

[2:57] to their attention. Individuals w

[3:00] wishing to address the council on any

[3:01] agenda item may do so at the time the

[3:04] agenda item is considered. Comments are

[3:08] limited to three minutes per speaker.

[3:10] This time may be reduced if there are

[3:12] numerous speakers on a particular item.

[3:15] Members of the audience members of the

[3:17] audience should respect the rights of

[3:19] others and shall not create noise or

[3:21] other disturbances to disrupt or disturb

[3:24] persons who are addressing the city

[3:26] council. All persons addressing the city

[3:28] council shall speak in a civil and

[3:31] courteous manner. Speakers shall address

[3:33] the agenda topic to which they're

[3:34] speaking on and shall not be repetitive

[3:37] and we ask that you would adhere to

[3:38] those instructions. Also, we would ask

[3:40] if you take the moment now to go ahead

[3:42] and silence uh your cell phones uh so

[3:45] that we won't have any interruptions. We

[3:47] do have a special guest tonight. Uh we

[3:49] have Mr.

[3:51] Harold Bayan, chairman of the Nacades

[3:53] Community Improvement Foundation. And uh

[3:56] we want Mr. Harab Bayan to uh uh to go

[4:00] to the podium and certainly start out by

[4:03] stating your first and last name and

[4:04] just share um what uh you're here for.

[4:08] Um we do know that um the Nagas

[4:11] Community Improvement Foundation uh

[4:13] certainly helped many of our youth out

[4:15] this summer and Mr. Harold's going to

[4:16] talk about that. Go ahead, Mr. Bay.

[4:18] >> Yes, I'm Harold Bayan,

[4:21] chairman of Nagash Community Improvement

[4:23] Foundation.

[4:25] I'm here in reference to our foundation

[4:28] and the mission and the work that we do.

[4:31] Our mission is community improvement,

[4:35] low housing development, recreations for

[4:37] youth, educations,

[4:40] grants, sponsorships, donations,

[4:45] and this year we tried to do every last

[4:47] one of them.

[4:49] We are and I would like to also

[4:54] give a shout out to the department heads

[4:57] for the city for all the work that you

[5:00] all do. We really appreciate it.

[5:04] And this summer was exciting and

[5:07] outstanding for our steam summer

[5:09] program. Bring you back. Last year we

[5:12] did it at LP Von

[5:14] and it was and it was good. This year,

[5:17] the Nagas Parish School Board, we

[5:19] partnered with them and they gave us the

[5:22] Magnum School on East Fifth.

[5:24] We had no less than 73 students a day.

[5:28] Some of the curriculum was self-defense,

[5:33] flying and colding drones,

[5:36] arts and craft taught by Miss Judith

[5:38] Hayes. She's here tonight. We had

[5:41] engineering.

[5:43] Uh we we had speakers. uh one of our uh

[5:49] on our advisory councils, Mr. Shields,

[5:52] he's here tonight. He spoke. They had

[5:55] math literature

[5:57] uh learning how to uh build businesses

[5:59] and make their own in signal. They had

[6:02] engineering.

[6:04] We fed them breakfast, snacks, and

[6:07] lunch. We had our cafeteria manager. We

[6:11] had the assistant. We had security.

[6:15] No child went to the bathroom by itself.

[6:18] We had security on each wing.

[6:21] They were introduced to beginner snare

[6:24] drums.

[6:26] They were introduced to guitars

[6:29] and they had a wonderful time and it was

[6:33] exciting to see them learn to play.

[6:36] Never touched these instruments before

[6:39] and how well they done. But it could not

[6:42] have been done

[6:45] without the volunteers, supporters,

[6:49] community volunteers and partners, the

[6:52] parents

[6:53] and everyone who gave their time.

[6:57] At this time, uh,

[7:01] I would like to ask for anyone that's

[7:04] here that's a member of NCIF,

[7:08] if you're here tonight for whatever

[7:09] reason, would you please stand? That

[7:12] includes advisors.

[7:15] There's two,

[7:17] there's one, there's three. City council

[7:20] person

[7:22] Rosemary. Thank you all. I just WANT TO

[7:24] APPRECIATE

[7:29] SO WE ADDED this year to move quickly

[7:33] summer swimming lessons

[7:37] along with the classes when it was over.

[7:40] Well, we didn't know.

[7:42] So we didn't take the initiative to go

[7:44] ahead of time and set this up. We

[7:48] thought we could just go by time school

[7:50] was over and get the summer classes

[7:53] where Northwestern was full

[7:57] and the city was full.

[8:00] But thanks to the recreation department

[8:03] member, Mr. Blake and Mayor Ronnie

[8:05] Williams that stepped in

[8:08] allowed the lifeguards

[8:10] to teach our children summer swimming

[8:13] after the summer classes and the

[8:16] recreation swimming was over.

[8:19] They held them over to teach our

[8:20] children. Some couldn't duck their heads

[8:23] under the water. When they left, some of

[8:25] them were swimming on their back.

[8:28] Mayor Williams visited the swimming pool

[8:33] and we appreciate his initiative

[8:36] and his progressive idea to even be

[8:39] involved in this. Our motto is

[8:42] footprints in the community

[8:45] whenever you see that that's our

[8:48] intentional. We want to do more.

[8:52] We want we want more children and this

[8:54] is going to be our main state.

[8:58] At this time

[9:00] I would like for Mr. Rosemary Eli, city

[9:05] council person and a member of the Niger

[9:08] Community Improvement Foundation to do

[9:11] something. I think she going to ask

[9:13] Mayor Williams to come forward.

[9:16] Mayor Williams, uh, on the behalf of the

[9:19] Natives Community Improvement Foundation

[9:22] is great for recognition for your

[9:24] outstanding service to our organization

[9:27] and would like to come up and take a

[9:29] picture with you.

[9:30] >> Well, look, thank you all so much. I

[9:32] wasn't expecting that.

[9:35] certainly

[9:37] wasn't expecting that. But I I'll say

[9:38] this, you know, um I know Harold worked

[9:42] directly with Blake and others, so I

[9:44] didn't necessarily have to be in the

[9:45] weeds in it, but that is important that,

[9:48] you know, students from the community, I

[9:50] guess residents from the community, I

[9:51] say like that or learning how to swim.

[9:55] >> Um and we're trying to figure out how we

[9:57] could extend that a little bit more cuz

[9:59] it's just a couple months now, but how

[10:01] we could try to get that extended so we

[10:02] could teach more. And uh that's really

[10:05] important. But then your program at um

[10:07] magnet is a it's a STEM program or

[10:10] >> it's called a STEM program. So yeah,

[10:12] it's just all positives. Um I know there

[10:15] was a KL KB

[10:19] uh piece on it. So maybe people could

[10:21] Google that a little bit and kind of

[10:23] you'll get to see some of the video and

[10:25] the images of what what what some of the

[10:27] kids were able to do. So, um, NCIF, I

[10:30] know y'all giving me this, but I mean,

[10:32] this is really all y'all, um, and what

[10:35] you're doing in the community, and we

[10:36] certainly need organizations like the

[10:38] Nagish Community Improvements Foundation

[10:40] because the city, city government can't

[10:42] do it all. We can't do it by ourselves.

[10:44] We certainly need these caring

[10:45] organizations to um, and we'll be

[10:48] willing to partner what we need to. So,

[10:50] again, yeah, I know y'all giving me

[10:51] this, but but kudos to y'all is what I

[10:53] want to say. All right. Well, we

[10:54] certainly appreciate the partnership and

[10:56] I hope like you say this is a lasting

[10:58] one.

[10:58] >> Yes, sir.

[10:59] >> That we will continue to do so. Anyone

[11:01] from CI want to take a picture? Mr.

[11:04] Shields. Anyone? Come on. Take a

[11:07] picture.

[11:22] Give us a picture, please.

[11:40] » All right.

[11:51] Mr. Bayan, before you, I just want to

[11:52] say I think that your um organization

[11:56] really did a really great job this

[11:59] summer. I did stop by the school and got

[12:01] an opportunity. I was invited by Miss

[12:03] Judith Hayes,

[12:05] uh Walters, and uh Miss Judith Hayes and

[12:08] got to see all the kids there. And

[12:10] you're right, it was a lot different

[12:12] from last year. A lot more uh

[12:15] involvement and and it was just great

[12:18] seeing so many kids over there. So, I

[12:20] just think you're doing a great job and

[12:22] continue to do so.

[12:24] >> All right.

[12:24] >> Thank you so much.

[12:26] >> Thank all of you.

[12:27] >> Appreciate that.

[12:27] >> All right. Thank all of you for what

[12:29] you're doing in the community. Okay. All

[12:32] right.

[12:34] Okay. So, next we've got our special

[12:37] guest. Um, next we've got Nacatish

[12:41] Historic District Commission appeal.

[12:46] Uh, applicant owner Henry Cook Taylor

[12:50] Junior and Deborah Lee Taylor. The

[12:53] purpose, the appeal of the decision by

[12:55] the Nagodish Historic Commission

[12:57] rendered July 28, 2026

[13:00] regarding the artwork artwork, excuse

[13:03] me, installed at

[13:06] 123 St. Denise Street in Akatish,

[13:10] Louisiana. I think we already have an

[13:12] attorney representing um

[13:15] >> Good evening,

[13:16] >> Mr. Cook and Mrs. Taylor. And I believe

[13:20] city council you have a document from Mr. Glette as

[13:26] well. So Mr. Glette, state your first

[13:28] and last name and um get into your

[13:31] remarks.

[13:32] >> Yes, sir.

[13:32] >> Oh, and let me say this. I'm sorry. We

[13:34] are we do have the threeminut rule. Our

[13:38] clock is not functioning um like it

[13:41] should. So Mrs. Stac is going to be my clock for me today. Okay. All right.

[13:46] Go ahead, Mr. Glad.

[13:47] >> Yeah. Thank you, Mayor. Um, good evening

[13:50] everyone. My name is Chris Gillette. I

[13:53] grew up here. I'm a lawyer here. I've

[13:55] got an office on Second Street. Went to

[13:57] Nakad Central, graduated in 1987. And

[14:01] I'm here tonight representing Lee Cook

[14:03] LLC and also Mr. Cook and Miss Taylor,

[14:06] which owned the property at 123 Saint

[14:09] Den just right about a block away here.

[14:13] Mayor,

[14:14] in July of this year, the Taylor's uh

[14:19] commissioned an artist to

[14:23] install some artwork in Taylor Park on

[14:26] 123 Saint Den. I think everyone's

[14:29] probably familiar with it. I do have

[14:31] some pictures I can pass out in a

[14:33] moment. The artwork says Nacades in

[14:35] large letters. Um, the historic

[14:39] commission determined that a permit

[14:43] would be required for this artwork. And

[14:46] so the historic commission uh set a set

[14:50] a meeting and summoned the property

[14:53] owners to respond.

[14:56] July 28th,

[14:59] the historic commission took the matter

[15:00] up. Uh they acknowledged during the

[15:03] meeting, the commission acknowledged

[15:04] during the meeting that there was

[15:07] another building, a mural at 860

[15:10] Washington. This is the Bank of

[15:11] Montgomery mural

[15:13] uh that had been in place since uh about

[15:16] 2014 or so, the best that I know. Uh and

[15:21] that mural the bank had not applied for

[15:24] a permit, hadn't received a permit. The

[15:26] historic commission had not taken any

[15:28] action to find the owner or or ask that

[15:32] it be taken down.

[15:35] The commission ordered

[15:37] the tailor to remove the artwork at 123

[15:40] Saint Den within 60 days. Uh if they

[15:44] didn't then they would be fined $50 for

[15:46] each day thereafter that it wasn't

[15:48] removed.

[15:50] We filed an appeal and I I uh provided a

[15:54] copy I think to the council

[15:57] a few days later and the basis of the

[16:00] appeal there's several grounds but uh

[16:03] number one that uh the the commission

[16:06] and the city council can't selectively

[16:09] enforce the ordinances.

[16:12] I think we cite, you know, Louisiana

[16:14] Constitution Article 6, uh, section 17.

[16:19] It's got to be uniformly enforced.

[16:22] The bank's mural, uh, actually

[16:25] advertises the Bank of Montgomery. It's

[16:27] got a picture of a horse and buggy and

[16:28] some other things, and they didn't

[16:31] obtain a permit for that one either.

[16:34] Secondly,

[16:35] although it is in a landmark historic

[16:38] district, both the bank building and the

[16:40] Taylor's building are in the landmark

[16:42] district

[16:44] under the National Historic Preservation

[16:47] Act, murals and artworks not prohibited.

[16:51] I cited those statutes in the written

[16:53] appeal that I provided to you in the

[16:55] regulations.

[16:55] >> Mr. Glet, that's three minutes, but

[16:57] given that you're the attorney for the

[16:59] Mr. Cook and Taylor, do you need a

[17:01] little bit more time?

[17:02] >> I do. Another three. We'll give you

[17:04] another three. Give me another three.

[17:05] >> Appreciate that. Thank you.

[17:07] >> The uh the statute uh the federal

[17:11] statute does not prohibit artwork or

[17:14] murals. It only concerns the structures

[17:17] uh of the buildings themselves. That's

[17:19] the concern of the federal uh

[17:24] National Historic Preservation Act.

[17:27] Next, under the ordinance,

[17:31] the the artwork is not assigned for a

[17:34] number of reasons, but the main reason

[17:36] is is uh under I think it's 16.1-

[17:41] 30 uh or 26. It doesn't advertise a

[17:45] product. It doesn't advertise a product,

[17:47] a business, or a commodity.

[17:50] Also, it's not clear that a permit's

[17:52] required at all, as we argued or stated

[17:56] in the letter, because permits are

[17:59] required in three instances. Number one,

[18:02] if you build a new structure, number

[18:04] two, if you paint an existing structure,

[18:07] or number three, if you alter or add to

[18:10] an existing structure.

[18:13] This artwork is a hardy board and it's

[18:17] attached with screws that can be removed

[18:20] and the artwork can be removed without

[18:23] damaging the structure itself, the

[18:25] building. So, it's not clear that a

[18:28] permit was required

[18:31] before the council tonight under the

[18:33] appeal statute. the council can reverse

[18:36] it can modify the existing order and so

[18:41] we ask respectfully that the council

[18:44] reverse the order of the commission on

[18:47] these grounds. Number one, that no

[18:50] permit appears to be required and also

[18:52] no selective enforcement of the

[18:54] ordinance really is permitted.

[18:57] I think that's about all mayor. I don't

[18:59] know if I have any more time, but if if

[19:01] I do, I'll be glad to answer any

[19:02] questions.

[19:03] >> Thank you, Mr. Klet. I appreciate that.

[19:04] >> Thank you, Lyn.

[19:06] >> Okay.

[19:06] >> Oh, I have a couple of things to

[19:07] introduce if I may. Uh I have the we uh

[19:11] did a public records request for the

[19:13] Bank of McGomery records to confirm that

[19:16] they didn't address that issue. Uh and

[19:20] in 2014,

[19:22] July the 7th, 2014, they first applied

[19:25] to the commission to paint the brick a

[19:27] uniform color. September the 7th of

[19:31] 2014, they changed their mind, decided

[19:34] to use exposed brick. So that's what's

[19:37] in the public record for the mural at

[19:39] 860 Washington.

[19:41] Uh last in in the letter, and I want the

[19:45] commission to have these pictures. The

[19:47] first three are just the nacadish

[19:49] artwork itself. I know you've seen that.

[19:52] Number four is the Bank of Montgomery

[19:54] mural, which is visible from Front

[19:56] Street. So, if you drive from Front

[19:58] Street towards Texas Street, you see it

[20:00] on your left, right by the Louisiana

[20:02] Sports Hall of Fame. We also point out

[20:05] in the letter that murals are very

[20:07] common now. Uh, it's probably not a

[20:10] legal issue, but I wanted to make that

[20:11] clear. And I have got pictures, about

[20:14] five or six pictures of all of the

[20:16] murals in downtown Rustin. Uh, and

[20:20] downtown Rustin is also a historic

[20:22] district. It's not a landmark district,

[20:23] but it is a historic district and

[20:25] includes a lot of murals.

[20:28] So, mayor, if I may and council, I'd

[20:31] like to just introduce into the record

[20:34] the request uh and the response to the

[20:39] um public records request and also

[20:42] pictures number 1 through 11.

[20:45] >> You you want the council you have enough

[20:47] of those for the council or just kind of

[20:49] want them to pass them around? Yeah,

[20:51] mayor. I I don't have any extra copies,

[20:53] but I'll just introduce those.

[20:54] >> Okay, I got you. I see what you say.

[20:55] Pass them around.

[20:56] >> Yes, sir.

[20:57] >> Okay. All right. Thank you, Mr. Gat. Is

[21:00] there anybody here from the historic

[21:03] district commission who would like to

[21:06] come at this time?

[21:15] » All right. Please state your first and

[21:16] last name, ma'am, and then whatever. I'm

[21:18] Marian Salter and I happen to be

[21:20] chairman um this year of the historic

[21:22] district commission and I'm here to

[21:25] answer any questions that you all might

[21:26] have. And I also would like to state

[21:29] that at each of our meetings every month

[21:33] we have applicants come before us and

[21:35] they have all different things that

[21:37] they're asking to do to their

[21:38] properties. Some are additions, some are

[21:41] demolitions, some are paint, some are

[21:43] roofs.

[21:45] There's all kinds of things. We take

[21:48] each application very seriously.

[21:52] We also form subcommittees to go out and

[21:55] meet with these individuals if they

[21:57] would like for us to. The committees

[22:00] come back and report to us and then a

[22:03] decision is made based on the guidelines

[22:06] set forth by the Department of the

[22:09] Interior and plus the city ordinances

[22:12] which are our laws. And we as a group of

[22:16] the historic district commission are

[22:19] volunteers that have been appointed by

[22:22] the mayor and voted upon by your city

[22:24] council. And we are charged with trying

[22:27] to interpret these rules as best that we

[22:30] can. And this is what we do to every

[22:33] individual that comes before us.

[22:37] I would like to say also that after the

[22:40] meeting on July the 28th, Mr. Taylor

[22:43] came up to me after the meeting and I

[22:45] hope you remember our little

[22:46] conversation that we had and he informed

[22:49] me that there was a committee that had

[22:51] been put together over a year ago to

[22:55] apparently put this knackadish sign

[22:57] together and that in January the

[23:00] committee fell apart

[23:02] and that he decided to carry this

[23:04] forward. My response to him was I said,

[23:08] "Henry, why did you not come to the

[23:11] historic district commission and ask us

[23:13] to be a part of this committee?" His

[23:16] response to me was, "We knew that you

[23:18] all would not allow it."

[23:21] And I take and I asked him, I said,

[23:24] "Well, I'm sorry you felt that way,

[23:27] but we would have come and tried to work

[23:29] together." And what a lot of people

[23:31] don't know is the fact that the historic

[23:35] district commission and some city

[23:37] employees have been trying to work

[23:40] trying to put together some ordinance

[23:43] concerning murals and artwork because

[23:46] this is becoming something that people

[23:48] wish to do but yet no one has even

[23:51] mentioned the fact that we are trying to

[23:53] do things behind the scenes.

[23:56] Now I am concerned that

[24:01] the way we interpret this painting, this

[24:05] artwork is a little different than maybe

[24:07] Mr. Glette has interpreted

[24:10] based on the ordinances that we have.

[24:14] We are charged with preserving

[24:18] structures and maintaining their

[24:20] integrity and also the dignity of the

[24:23] historic district that we are charged. I

[24:26] think that's at the end of your three,

[24:27] but if you need a little bit more time,

[24:28] know everybody understands. We allow a

[24:30] little bit more time for opening remarks

[24:32] >> and then we will strictly enforce three

[24:33] minutes thereafter. But I think it's

[24:35] fair to give opening remarks a little

[24:37] bit more time. Go ahead.

[24:39] >> Thank you. And we understand that murals

[24:41] are becoming a thing within communities

[24:44] and we want to work with people to try

[24:47] to do what is right and what is not

[24:49] right. But I also need to point out that

[24:52] our community is a very special

[24:54] community that not many have. Rustin

[24:56] doesn't have it. Shreport doesn't have

[24:58] it. Any of these other places that have

[25:00] murals. We are the oldest town in the

[25:02] Louisiana Purchase. That's onethird of

[25:04] the United States. We are a national

[25:07] landmark district. and being established

[25:10] as a landmark district. The federal

[25:13] government through the Interior

[25:14] Department of the Interior states that

[25:16] we are charged with preserving not only

[25:20] for our local and our state but for the

[25:23] nation and we take all of what we do as

[25:26] the historic district commission very

[25:28] seriously.

[25:30] >> Thank you.

[25:31] Mrs. Salter. All right. Um

[25:36] All right. We've heard from attorney

[25:39] Glette. We've heard from Miss Alter,

[25:42] Mrs. Alter from the Historic District

[25:43] Commission. City Council members,

[25:47] anything y'all have to say on this

[25:48] matter? Again, before us is the appeal

[25:52] um of the decision that was made uh to

[25:55] give 60 days and then start finding if

[25:58] it's still up, if this artwork is still

[26:01] on the side of the building. I just want

[26:03] to say I appreciate what the um historic

[26:07] commission does as being volunteers. Um

[26:10] so I just want to say make that point

[26:13] first and foremost that I don't want it

[26:16] to go unnoticed, unmentioned that you

[26:19] all do a great work and trying to

[26:22] preserve what Nackage has as far as

[26:25] being landmark areas here, landmark

[26:28] buildings and whatever here in Nacades.

[26:30] And just wanted to point that out to

[26:31] you.

[26:32] Okay.

[26:36] » Any other comments? City council.

[26:39] >> You want me to?

[26:40] >> Yeah.

[26:41] >> Okay. Um,

[26:44] bear with me. I'm always, as my wife

[26:45] say, can be very long- winded, so I'm

[26:48] about to be a little long- winded. Uh,

[26:50] first I I want to start by also thanking

[26:53] the members of the historic commission.

[26:55] They're, as Miss Betty said, they're

[26:57] 100% volunteers who put their time and

[27:00] effort in this historic district because

[27:02] they care about it. They care about

[27:03] preserving and protecting it, and that's

[27:05] why they put a lot of time into what

[27:08] they do uh for nothing in return. Um,

[27:11] and I believe they were put in a very

[27:13] difficult position here because I

[27:15] believe and I believe they did the right

[27:17] thing by making a decision that allowed

[27:19] this to ultimately come before us. um as

[27:22] cuz I'm I'm going to discuss when you

[27:24] really get in our ordinances and try to

[27:26] apply them to murals, it's extremely

[27:29] vague. Um in fact, they don't ex

[27:33] specifically address murals at all. What

[27:35] the commission had was something placed

[27:37] on a building without a permit and they

[27:40] had to make the decision based on the

[27:41] ordinance that we have. Um, I want to

[27:44] make clear at the beginning cuz I don't

[27:47] view what we're doing tonight as a city

[27:49] council being against the historic

[27:51] commission in in any way. Um, and if we

[27:54] ultimately reach a different conclusion

[27:55] on part of their decision, that doesn't

[27:58] mean they did anything wrong. Uh, none

[28:00] of us sitting up here created the

[28:03] ordinance that's before us. This was I

[28:05] don't know when it was created. In fact,

[28:07] no idea.

[28:08] >> Long time

[28:08] >> in the 70s maybe. I'm not sure.

[28:10] Obviously,

[28:10] >> uh we inherited it, but we up here are

[28:14] the legislative body now responsible for

[28:16] it. And uh when we find that an

[28:18] ordinance is vague or incomplete or

[28:21] doesn't adequately address something,

[28:23] it's our responsibility to clarify it uh

[28:26] to interpret it or appropriate or to

[28:29] change it. And um our ordinance also

[28:33] gives us a very specific responsibility

[28:35] when a decision by the commission is

[28:37] appealed to us. as Miss Marian stated

[28:41] uh I'm sorry what Mr. Glette stated uh

[28:46] that it says the council and I quote

[28:48] shall have the right to reverse change

[28:51] or modify any decision of the historic

[28:53] commission. The commission made its

[28:55] decision. the tailor's appealed it and

[28:57] it's our responsibility to look at the

[28:59] ordinance, look at the standards that

[29:00] our ordinance tells us to follow and uh

[29:03] make our our own decision based on how

[29:05] we the legislative body interpret uh

[29:08] this vagueness from our ordinances. And

[29:10] that's what I I've tried to do and the

[29:12] first question I asked is what is this

[29:16] right? Because there's there's questions

[29:19] about a sign, a mural, what is it? And

[29:21] to me it's to me it's a mural. It's

[29:24] artwork is what it is. I don't believe

[29:26] it's a sign under the definition comp

[29:28] contained in our ordinance. Our

[29:29] ordinance defines a sign as including

[29:31] symbols and similar displays like Mr.

[29:34] Gillette stated and I quote used for

[29:36] advertising purposes such as those to

[29:38] designate an individual firm etc. Um

[29:41] that's not what this is. It's doesn't

[29:44] advertise any business. It's not

[29:45] advertising a product or service or a

[29:47] profession etc. It's just artwork

[29:50] depicting nadition scenes of our

[29:51] community. Um, so I don't believe the

[29:54] provisions that regulate signs apply to

[29:56] this mural. So then what do we look at

[30:00] in our ordinances? And uh, because when

[30:03] you move away from the sign provisions

[30:05] and look at what does require a permit,

[30:08] our ordinance requires a permit for any

[30:10] alteration or addition to an existing

[30:14] structure. Um, that's where I I do

[30:18] slightly disagree with Mr. Glette where

[30:19] he said it didn't he doesn't believe it

[30:21] even maybe required a permit. I I think

[30:23] it's an addition to an structure. Um it

[30:26] is added to the structure. Um even

[30:28] though it can be removed.

[30:30] I believe it's an addition or

[30:32] alteration. So I want to be very clear

[30:33] about this. I do I believe the Taylor

[30:35] should have applied for a permit when

[30:36] they when they put it up and one wasn't

[30:39] applied. Uh I don't think there's any

[30:41] question about that. But there are two

[30:45] different questions. The first is should

[30:47] they obtain a permit for installing it?

[30:49] I think yes. The second is if they

[30:51] applied for a permit, what standards

[30:53] then do we use to determine whether this

[30:57] should have been allowed and approved?

[30:59] Uh our ordinance, like I said, doesn't

[31:01] give us any specific mural standards at

[31:02] all. Instead, our ordinance says that

[31:05] the historic district commission, and I

[31:07] quote, shall follow the guidelines

[31:10] established by the United States

[31:12] Department of the Interior. Okay. So, I

[31:16] contacted the Department of Interior.

[31:18] What are y'all's guidelines? I went

[31:19] through a lot of people and I got to

[31:20] their Atlanta office. Uh, spoke with an

[31:23] individual there concerning historic

[31:25] landmark districts and specifically

[31:26] inquired about murals. I was informed

[31:29] that they don't regulate or prohibit

[31:32] murals of any kind. Um, I was also told

[31:35] that murals themselves generally have

[31:37] very little to no effect on historic

[31:39] designation. What matters more from the

[31:42] historic preservation their standpoint

[31:45] is the destruction, loss or severe

[31:47] alteration of historic buildings and

[31:50] historic materials that give those

[31:52] buildings their historic significance.

[31:55] Um and in fact what they specifically

[32:00] what they said is

[32:02] if you have a hundred in your district

[32:04] if you have a hundred historic buildings

[32:07] if due to loss destruction if you got 10

[32:10] you should be worried about your

[32:12] designation. That's kind of they're just

[32:14] worried about losing buildings. I they

[32:16] directed me to the Secretary of State's

[32:18] standards for rehabilitation which is

[32:21] codified in 36 CFR part 67. I have a a

[32:26] copy of them right here if anyone wants

[32:27] to look at them. And when you actually

[32:29] read those standards, their purpose is

[32:32] pretty straightforward. They say they're

[32:33] intended to preserve the historic

[32:35] significance of a property by protecting

[32:37] the historic materials and features that

[32:40] make that property significant. And

[32:42] there's standard nine which is relevant

[32:44] here. Um, and it addresses exterior

[32:47] alterations

[32:49] and um, it says uh, it says that an

[32:53] exterior alteration should not destroy

[32:55] historic materials that characterize the

[32:57] property. Um, I don't think the mural

[33:01] does that. It says the new work should

[33:03] be differentiated from the old. I think

[33:06] it clearly is. I don't think anyone's

[33:08] going to look at this mural and think it

[33:09] was part of the original historic

[33:11] building when it was built. Um it also

[33:15] says standard 10 says uh that new

[33:18] additions

[33:20] um should be done in a way that protects

[33:22] the essential form and integrity of the

[33:25] historic property and if removed in the

[33:27] future wouldn't destroy it. Wow. I mean

[33:30] it it wouldn't uh I would I would say um

[33:36] again I think that's important here.

[33:38] This mural is attached in a way it can

[33:39] be removed. somebody takes it down five

[33:42] years from now, 10 from now, 50 from

[33:43] now, the essential form and integrity of

[33:46] the building still remains. So, after

[33:49] looking at those actual standards that

[33:51] our ordinance tells us to follow, I

[33:52] simply can't find anything that says a

[33:54] mural is prohibited. Uh, and murals in

[33:58] historic districts are certainly not

[33:59] unusual, has been stated. When I spoke

[34:02] with the Department of the Interior,

[34:03] they they gave me a couple examples.

[34:06] Charleston, South Carolina and Savannah,

[34:08] Georgia was mentioned as examples of

[34:10] landmark districts um where murals exist

[34:13] and they they guided me to their they

[34:15] said they have great uh mural guidelines

[34:18] that they have in their ordinances. Uh

[34:21] and so it's something for us to look towards. Okay.

[34:27] Uh I then started looking at other

[34:28] historic districts around the country.

[34:30] There's plenty of communities that allow

[34:31] them. There's an in Alabama for

[34:33] instance. I have this whole packet is

[34:35] our mural guidelines for their landmark

[34:37] district and it's in it's extensive.

[34:41] Uh there's um uh Lancaster, New York,

[34:46] much smaller guidelines, but they also

[34:48] have guidelines that we can we can look

[34:49] through and and go off of. We don't need

[34:51] to reinvent the wheel here is what I'm

[34:53] saying. If it works for their landmark

[34:54] districts and has for so many years, why

[34:56] wouldn't it work here? Um, they regulate

[34:58] things like location,

[35:00] um, protection of historic materials,

[35:03] attachment methods, and other

[35:05] preservation concerns. They even provide

[35:07] pictures and examples in their

[35:08] ordinances that really help out. Um,

[35:12] some places regulate size, some places

[35:15] regulate what side of a building it can

[35:16] be on, some protect historic brick and

[35:18] masonry, some prevent murals from

[35:20] covering important architectural

[35:21] features. Um, some say they can't face

[35:25] streets at all, which actually this one

[35:27] in particular doesn't even face doesn't

[35:29] face a street. Um,

[35:32] so I I absolutely believe we need to

[35:33] address murals in our ordinances going

[35:35] forward. We have an ordinance later on our agenda uh which is a moratorum to

[35:41] put a six-month moratorum on any future

[35:45] um applications so we can amend our

[35:47] ordinances. Um, however, this one has

[35:49] been applied under our current

[35:50] ordinances. So it wouldn't be a wouldn't

[35:53] uh go through on the moratorum. Um if we

[35:57] want to restrict their size,

[36:00] >> let's establish that restriction. That's

[36:01] for the council. If we want to regulate

[36:03] where they can be located, we can do

[36:04] that. If we want to protect how they're

[36:08] put up on the wall, we can do that. If

[36:10] we want to specify rules of uh um

[36:16] whatever we want to do as a commission,

[36:17] as a council, then everyone knows what

[36:19] the rules are. property owners know, the

[36:21] historic commission knows, and if it's

[36:24] appealed, we know what the rules are.

[36:26] But those specific regulations don't

[36:28] exist in our ordinance today. With all

[36:30] that said, um the historic district

[36:32] commission, I think, has already

[36:34] considered this particular mural. Even

[36:36] though a permit

[36:38] um application was not formally filed

[36:41] beforehand, this particular mural

[36:44] nevertheless came before the commission.

[36:47] considered it um heard

[36:50] all the facts and made a decision

[36:53] concerning it. Um the the motion that

[36:57] was made by the commission and I quote I

[37:00] have the exact motion. Uh motion is that

[37:03] the tailor be asked to remove the sign

[37:05] within 60 days. If the sign is not

[37:07] removed within 60 days that they be

[37:10] fined the minimum amount authorized by

[37:12] the code of $50 per day until it's

[37:14] removed. the sign is not removed within

[37:16] 60 days that the city attorney take

[37:18] action to have it removed through the

[37:20] judicial system and then it was seconded

[37:22] and voted on. Uh and that's that's was

[37:24] before us now is that motion. So again,

[37:26] our ordinance expressly states that this

[37:29] council should have the right to

[37:30] reverse, change, or modify any decision

[37:33] of the historic commission. So I don't

[37:34] believe our only options tonight are

[37:36] either to affirm their decision or send

[37:39] these people back at the whole beginning

[37:41] of the process. We've seen the mural. We

[37:44] all know what it looks like. We've been

[37:46] there.

[37:48] We know where it is. We know it's how

[37:50] it's attached. The historic commission

[37:51] has considered it. They made their

[37:53] decision. The tailor have appealed it.

[37:55] Both sides have had the opportunity to

[37:57] be heard. And now the ordinance gives us

[37:59] the responsibility to make that

[38:00] decision. I don't see the benefit of

[38:03] telling the tailor, "Go file an

[38:04] application for this exact same mural.

[38:06] go back before the commission again,

[38:08] have another hearing, get another

[38:10] decision, and if you disagree with that

[38:12] decision, come back here. We're going to

[38:14] do this all over again. We're already

[38:16] here. It's already been adjudicated.

[38:18] Um, and again, I want to make something

[38:21] very clear. I'm not saying that they

[38:23] were right to put this mural up without

[38:25] obtaining a permit. Uh, they should have

[38:27] gotten a permit. There's other things

[38:29] out there, not just what's been

[38:31] discussed tonight. There's other things

[38:33] out there in the historic district that

[38:34] haven't gotten permits. um they should

[38:37] get permits. So, we're not here, we

[38:39] don't police that, you know, that's not what we do is um but there's

[38:44] a process that they should go through

[38:46] and if it gets

[38:49] maybe some things need to come before

[38:50] us. That's all I'm going to say. Um

[38:53] nothing I'm proposing tonight should be

[38:55] interpreted to mean that somebody can

[38:56] leave here, go put a mural on some or

[38:59] alter some other building, historic

[39:01] district, and then come ask for

[39:02] forgiveness. In fact, I believe there

[39:04] should be a consequence for failing to

[39:06] follow the permitting process. And

[39:08] that's one portion of the commission's

[39:10] decision that maybe some council members

[39:13] may we might want to discuss to modify,

[39:16] but that's separate from the question of

[39:17] whether the mural should be removed.

[39:20] Failing to obtain the permit beforehand

[39:22] doesn't necessarily mean that an

[39:23] alteration that otherwise satisfies the

[39:26] standards

[39:28] were required to apply must be torn

[39:31] down.

[39:32] Um, and based on the ordinance exists

[39:34] today, based on the Department of

[39:35] Interior standards and our ordinance

[39:37] specifically directs us to follow, based

[39:39] upon the facts concerning this

[39:41] particular mural, I do not find

[39:43] substantive basis under our current

[39:45] ordinance requiring this mural to be

[39:47] removed. Um,

[39:50] the ordinance itself provides for the

[39:52] appeal and the fact it expressly gives

[39:54] us the authority to reverse, change or

[39:56] modify means there will be occasion when

[39:58] this council reaches a different

[39:59] conclusion. us while the appeal process

[40:01] is there. Yet again, uh that isn't the

[40:04] council against the commission. I

[40:06] believe the real problem here is that

[40:07] our ordinance has not kept up with the

[40:09] issue, has been very vague, and now it's

[40:12] in front of us for the first time. And

[40:15] yet again, that's our responsibility and

[40:16] that's our responsibility to fix it. Um

[40:22] so

[40:25] are we ready to make a motion? Do you

[40:26] want to talk?

[40:27] >> Make a motion. I think we need to talk.

[40:29] >> Okay,

[40:31] >> let's talk.

[40:32] >> I would just like to echo that um

[40:37] when this blew up, I happened to be over

[40:41] in Texas at Lake of the Pines.

[40:45] And the the next morning, I got several

[40:48] phone calls that day. Next morning went

[40:51] over to Jefferson, Texas and went to eat

[40:56] at Annie's Steamboat Cafe and walked

[41:01] around the building, the first thing I

[41:03] see is a big huge river steamboat u on

[41:07] the side of the building and it's

[41:08] gorgeous. I love uh murals, but on the

[41:12] front of the building there's a historic

[41:14] landmark plaque. So, you know, right off

[41:17] the bat, um, it and I found that later

[41:21] on there's three or four murals in their

[41:23] town. They all fit the historic

[41:26] ambiance, if you will, of the thing. So,

[41:29] it didn't didn't bother me. But in when

[41:32] I got back, um, happened to go by, got a

[41:36] burger from Stony's at Tasty Boy. And

[41:40] while I was there, four people,

[41:41] different groups came in in the 12m

[41:44] minute time I was there to take a

[41:46] picture of the mural before we made them

[41:48] take it down. So, uh, just a pop popular

[41:53] appeal. Uh, I don't think there's

[41:55] anybody that dislikes the content of the

[41:57] mural. However, we got two issues going

[42:00] on that Councilman Harrington

[42:03] um very eloquently went over. Uh we've

[42:06] got an out ofdate ordinance which

[42:09] appears to keep surfacing in our

[42:12] planning and zoning. Um a lot of them

[42:15] are old and they need to be redone. And

[42:18] I think maybe next year we can look at

[42:20] that and try to catch up on a lot of

[42:23] these. But some of us on this council

[42:27] have served on commissions where an

[42:30] issue gets out of hand and you really

[42:33] get your ears pinned back and you're

[42:34] doing it and they add another zero to

[42:37] the amount you get in your paycheck. Um

[42:40] it's not it a lot of times it it can be

[42:43] very thankless. Um, but it's an

[42:46] important job and

[42:50] you know

[42:52] it's got to be we've got to take care of

[42:55] our historic landmark district. The

[42:58] second issue is not getting a permit and

[43:01] it's imperative that we follow our

[43:04] permitting process especially in the

[43:08] landmark district. The commission is

[43:11] tasked with upholding the integrity of

[43:14] the district and that at times is so

[43:17] misunderstood by the general public.

[43:20] They have no idea what that entails with

[43:23] zero lot lines, almost no off- streetet

[43:26] parking and buildings that are well over

[43:28] a hundred years old. It's a special task

[43:31] to maintain that status while you're

[43:34] trying to integrate it with the rest of

[43:36] the city. And I commend each and every

[43:39] commissioner that's on that commission

[43:41] for serving because it's a it's a very

[43:43] tough job, but it's very important and

[43:47] to do things without a permit each and

[43:50] every time we do that. Are there some

[43:53] that slip through the cracks? Absolutely

[43:56] there are. But each and every one can

[43:59] have an adverse effect on the entire

[44:02] district. So, we've got to uphold it.

[44:05] That commission is extremely important

[44:08] to us. I grew up in New Orleans. One of

[44:11] the things that I fell in love with in

[44:14] Nacadesh

[44:15] was the landmark district, which wasn't

[44:18] designated yet, but I got to watch it

[44:21] grow after it became a landmark

[44:24] district. It opened up the door to

[44:26] facade grants to and people began buying

[44:29] property, investing in it, and you had

[44:32] the downtown that you have today. And if

[44:35] you didn't have that commission back in

[44:36] that, it wouldn't be that way. And so

[44:41] for that reason, I think not getting a

[44:44] permit is more bothersome to me than

[44:49] um whether we allow murals or we don't.

[44:52] As Councilman Harrington stated, um,

[44:56] we'll have a chance to address that.

[44:59] Hopefully, we'll pass that as a body to

[45:01] do the moratorum on murals and be able

[45:04] to come back and visit that

[45:06] intelligently, have public forums and invite the public to be involved and

[45:12] consider how we're going to do that. But

[45:14] uh I am very much uh I think we figured

[45:19] the the fine from when it was put up or

[45:23] from the meeting to now would be

[45:26] approximately 1350. That would be my u

[45:32] recommendation to leave the sign up, pay

[45:36] the fine of 1350

[45:39] or remove the sign and no fine.

[45:43] Well, I tell you I just want to say

[45:45] this. I have as I said earlier and I

[45:48] agree with everything uh Councilman

[45:50] Harrington and Councilman Nielson has

[45:53] said. I think most of us here agree with

[45:55] the fact that the

[45:58] sign was put up without a permit.

[46:02] You know, there are rules and

[46:04] regulations that have to be followed

[46:06] that should have been followed. So, my

[46:08] main concern was the fact that it was

[46:11] put up without a permit. I have no

[46:13] objection to the mural itself. It's I

[46:15] think it's beautiful. I love it. I've

[46:17] traveled so many places and I've seen

[46:20] murals. Um just recently came from

[46:22] Monroe and in their downtown area there are murals all over over in

[46:28] Nacadocious Texas murals. Lufkin, Texas

[46:31] as Dell said, Jefferson, Texas. This is the thing now. People have a way

[46:39] of trying to express themselves through

[46:41] painting.

[46:42] and and I I think it's nice. I think it

[46:45] adds to the area and I agree that a fine

[46:49] should be in place and

[46:54] leave the mirror up. But um I think

[46:58] penalty needs to be in place. I put it

[47:00] that way for not abiding by the permit

[47:04] that's been should have been done.

[47:08] Council

[47:09] >> washi any comments?

[47:13] Oh, no.

[47:15] I don't have anything. Okay.

[47:18] >> I like the burgers though.

[47:19] >> I'm just

[47:20] >> You like burgers?

[47:22] >> She talking about tasty boy.

[47:23] >> Tasty boy.

[47:26] >> Councilman PT.

[47:27] >> I'm just a bit concerned. Uh you had the

[47:30] fellow Mr. Gileia. He had mentioned

[47:32] about the Bank of Montgomery with them

[47:33] having their artwork and I just it's

[47:37] kind of difficult because if we're going

[47:39] to find you know them for their piece

[47:41] then how do we remedy that?

[47:43] >> That's true.

[47:44] >> Uh

[47:46] I like the artwork. I I figured it

[47:48] probably would make it to us. But

[47:50] >> I think at this point we just kind of

[47:51] dealing with an outdated ordinance and

[47:54] so maybe we put a hold, you know, until

[47:56] we get that situated. But

[47:59] >> I don't think that we get them to tear

[48:01] it down or move it. I think we just kind

[48:03] of like move forward from here.

[48:06] >> And I don't I don't think it's fair if

[48:08] we try to find

[48:12] >> I don't I don't know about that. I I say

[48:14] that because I don't know when did he

[48:16] ever say when the Bank of Montgomery was

[48:18] put up? What year was that?

[48:20] >> 2014.

[48:26] » Yeah. And then I just say I say a fine

[48:28] and I'm not I'm not I'm opposed to a

[48:31] fine of$350

[48:34] but I just feel that if something is not

[48:37] you know you you're going to have people

[48:38] coming just putting up something but I

[48:40] don't have to I'm not going to get

[48:41] penalized for it. I can put it up. I'm

[48:43] not there's no repercussion.

[48:45] >> So something I think needs to be in

[48:47] place. If not a fine something needs if

[48:50] not that big of a fine. Something needs

[48:52] to be in place.

[48:54] I I see both I see both sides of it. Uh

[48:59] I see a side of of doing a fine and and

[49:02] our ordinances say a minimum of $50 a

[49:05] day. Uh but it doesn't necessarily state

[49:09] when that day begins.

[49:10] >> No.

[49:11] >> Um

[49:13] >> up to $100 a day. Um, but

[49:17] because I see I see the side

[49:20] for the fine because if we don't then

[49:24] there's nothing to to stop anyone from

[49:26] just putting anything up without a

[49:27] permit and being like sure I'll get one

[49:29] later, whatever. Because there's no

[49:32] negative recourse to them. There's

[49:33] nothing there's no you know if we have a

[49:36] fine now might keep people from doing

[49:39] so. But I I see this point.

[49:42] >> Mhm. I do too.

[49:43] >> That there's others. Why haven't they

[49:44] been fined? Uh, how can you find one and

[49:46] out the other?

[49:50] » What if you donated the fine to the

[49:53] historic district through Main Street

[49:56] and it went back to improvements in the

[49:59] historic district?

[50:01] >> I.e. maybe the signs that say Tasty Boy

[50:04] that way.

[50:05] >> Well, all those signs are outdated.

[50:07] Yeah,

[50:07] >> they're all outdated.

[50:08] >> Yeah, there's businesses that aren't

[50:09] there anymore. There's Yeah. And maybe

[50:11] the Bank of Montgomery would graciously

[50:14] give a donation to the historic

[50:16] district.

[50:17] >> They might do that.

[50:20] >> Yep.

[50:20] >> Great idea. If anybody here from Bank of

[50:22] Montgomery listening, Great idea.

[50:25] >> All right. You got something else,

[50:28] Eddie?

[50:31] » I don't know.

[50:32] >> Okay. All right. At this time, we do

[50:34] want to allow We've heard from attorney

[50:37] representing the Taylor. We've heard

[50:39] from member of the historic district

[50:41] commission, city council, and we've

[50:43] given them latitude to go beyond of

[50:45] course the 3 minutes, but we are going

[50:47] to in the interest of time, we are going

[50:48] to have to strictly enforce

[50:51] um the 3 minutes at this point. Um just

[50:54] to just as a reminder, we certainly

[50:58] don't want to be repetitive. Um so if a

[51:01] comment has already been made, you know,

[51:04] hey, just

[51:06] you can let that be.

[51:08] um that we it's already in the record if

[51:10] you will. So, we do want to allow some

[51:12] time and again Mrs. Stacy is going to be

[51:14] my time keeper hand goes up that lets us

[51:16] know the 3 minutes has expired. So, if

[51:19] there's anything anybody uh does want to

[51:22] say at this point, we don't have a

[51:24] motion yet, but I kind of see where it's

[51:26] going. So, um, but we do want to allow

[51:29] individuals who may want to speak and

[51:30] then when you get to the microphone,

[51:33] please state your first and last name

[51:34] and then you can get into your remarks

[51:36] and your three minutes will start at the

[51:37] time um when when your name is uh called

[51:40] out. Yes, ma'am.

[51:48] » Hi, I'm Elizabeth Eers. Um, I do a lot

[51:51] of the Facebook stuff. I don't do

[51:53] anything else, just Facebook. and I am a

[51:56] part of a lot of the groups in there and

[51:58] I didn't start a lot of it. I did start

[52:01] a lot of it but not the polls and

[52:03] everything. Um, on the online polls

[52:07] right now we are at 357

[52:10] signatures and that was just a couple of

[52:12] days ago. I haven't checked it recently

[52:14] and I want to say in one of the groups

[52:17] there was

[52:18] like a like a poll or something. and it

[52:20] was in the thousands that was in

[52:22] Nacadesh to keep it up and then on Saint

[52:26] Deny we've had people coming in from

[52:28] Delaware, Austin, everywhere to keep it.

[52:31] I understand a fine needs to be in place

[52:34] but we also do a bunch of community work

[52:37] too. So maybe instead of a fine we do

[52:41] community work. You know there's some

[52:43] compromises we can make here but the

[52:46] community does love it. I have the

[52:48] petitions

[52:50] and the pictures and everything on

[52:52] Facebook if y'all need anything. I'm

[52:53] really nervous,

[52:56] but that's really all I have to say is

[52:59] the community does love it and y'all

[53:01] trust me with it. I've never like

[53:03] steered y'all wrong on anything and I

[53:06] promise that we won't do anything else

[53:08] and we'll get right permits. I promise.

[53:11] Just leave it up.

[53:14] >> All right. Thank you, ma'am.

[53:21] Any other comments people feel they need

[53:23] to be made? All right, we got one coming

[53:24] in the back.

[53:37] » It's a very nice sign. My name is

[53:38] Deborah Thompson and I think um the I

[53:43] think we're missing the point. The the point is if there is a permit that's

[53:52] required

[53:54] and you don't get the permit

[53:56] expecting that you're going to be

[53:58] denied, which is what she said. That was

[54:00] the reason given that they did not

[54:02] request the permit.

[54:05] If you don't get the the permit and

[54:07] expect that you're going to accept it

[54:10] anyway once it's up, there's a problem.

[54:13] And I think that's a problem. not just

[54:15] for this issue but any other issues that

[54:19] we might face in our city. So we need to

[54:22] consider that

[54:24] uh

[54:27] I understand the sign you can take it

[54:30] down until the permit is is it's completed just you leave it put

[54:36] it back up when it's legal but until

[54:39] it's legal then it shouldn't be up. I

[54:42] don't care how pretty it is. Uh it's not

[54:45] legal. It's not always done correctly

[54:48] and we need to make sure that things are

[54:50] done decently and in order.

[54:52] >> Thank you.

[54:54] Mr. Thompson.

[54:56] >> Right.

[54:57] >> Okay. Any other comments?

[55:03] » All right. We got one coming here.

[55:08] » Jared, I know I'm not speaking on behalf

[55:10] of the commission. Miss Alter did an

[55:11] excellent job. I want to thank y'all. I

[55:13] know that y'all spent a lot of time

[55:15] working on this and we appreciate it.

[55:17] Um,

[55:19] I don't think the commission has

[55:21] expressed an opinion on whether or not

[55:24] we should or shouldn't have murals. Um,

[55:26] I think that's not a decision that we've

[55:28] made. But I I do would just want to

[55:31] caution the council.

[55:33] Once you if you vote to allow this to go

[55:37] up, Katie bar the doors because once you

[55:41] allow one mural to go up, we can't

[55:43] prevent any other ones from going up. So

[55:46] this decision is important and I I would just caution you all to think

[55:50] about it. So

[55:53] >> I will say to that that this one of

[55:56] course we're only voting on this one

[55:57] individually but we do have later in our

[56:00] agenda that moratorum from if it's

[56:03] passed that from today moving for 6

[56:06] months no mural application will be

[56:09] accepted and to our ordinances are

[56:12] amended um which however I can't say how

[56:16] they'll be amended it's I'm only one

[56:18] vote and one decision but they'll be

[56:21] regulated in some form of way. So,

[56:24] what's before us today isn't going to be

[56:26] the same. Um, this is I just wanted to

[56:28] say that uh and I did look and um

[56:34] where' I put it? Oh,

[56:37] I did look and and uh and Alex

[56:40] Washington, our city attorney, we looked

[56:42] at it together and our our ordinances

[56:45] under penalties for violations does

[56:47] state

[56:49] that

[56:52] uh any owner who violates the store

[56:55] district ordinance or laws

[56:58] shall be fined not less than $50, no

[57:01] more than $100 for each infraction. It

[57:04] says each day the violation continues is

[57:07] a separate offense. So that's now where

[57:10] I looked at that and that's when I went

[57:11] and talked to that word shall is what

[57:14] stuck out to me. We we don't have I

[57:18] don't see us having a say of getting

[57:19] around the shall. Would you agree with

[57:22] that?

[57:22] >> Yeah, I agree with that.

[57:23] >> Um

[57:24] >> and plus the the commission in their

[57:26] ruling issued um penalties and so if we

[57:31] are concurrent with that but modifying

[57:34] at the same time I think we

[57:36] >> Yeah. So

[57:42] » based on the date of the meeting to now,

[57:45] >> that's what I think

[57:46] >> that's where we came up with that. not

[57:49] go as far back as when it was initially

[57:51] installed, but when they had the

[57:53] meeting, which is when they're directly

[57:55] told

[57:56] >> you violated this.

[57:58] >> And that's what you that's 50 days. $50

[58:01] a day, which was the minimum amount

[58:03] >> starting the next day after the meeting

[58:06] till today is $1,350.

[58:10] >> Um,

[58:13] » okay. Has a permit been applied for

[58:16] since then? Yes,

[58:18] >> it has been applied. Okay, because she

[58:20] spoke. So, it was applied for

[58:23] purposes. We went and looked

[58:24] >> that was not for the

[58:25] >> application that was filed. I don't

[58:28] think includes the the mural. Chris, you

[58:31] might correct me if I'm wrong. We went

[58:32] and looked. There was there is an

[58:34] application that's been filed, but I

[58:36] think it only pertains to the fencing,

[58:38] the lighting. I don't think an actual

[58:41] permit on the site,

[58:46] » but you had a

[58:49] >> they had a meeting just

[58:52] on the mirror.

[58:53] >> They had the

[58:53] >> Yeah. Can we speak in the mic, please,

[58:55] for the minutes if you don't mind?

[58:58] >> And we need y'all to speak in the mic

[58:59] for the minutes and for our audience

[59:02] that's online.

[59:03] >> It was filed the following day. This is

[59:05] Chris Gillette. It was filed the day

[59:08] after the meeting because the count the

[59:10] commission requested that they do so and

[59:13] so they did. They said, "We think y'all

[59:14] need to file an application for the

[59:16] artwork and several other things, too."

[59:19] So, they did file that and all of that's

[59:22] included in the pending application.

[59:25] >> Was a sign, you had a comment?

[59:28] >> No.

[59:29] >> When we looked at it, the sign was a

[59:31] sign in the packet this morning.

[59:33] >> I didn't see it checked off.

[59:36] I can get the original

[59:37] >> the application checks off for signage

[59:39] and then it lists some other reasons. Um

[59:42] but we have not ruled on this

[59:44] application. It's it's before it's

[59:46] before us next month I guess

[59:49] >> money meeting. So

[59:51] >> okay rule

[59:52] >> I'll go I'll go ahead and

[59:54] >> they rule.

[59:55] >> Yeah. Uh I'll go ahead and due to the

[59:59] fact that uh this matter on the mural I

[1:00:04] believe has already been adjudicated and

[1:00:06] really technically a permit hearing has

[1:00:08] been heard even though one wasn't filed

[1:00:10] at the time. I move that the city

[1:00:12] council pursuant to this authority on

[1:00:14] appeal to reverse change or modify

[1:00:16] decision of the store district

[1:00:17] commission affirm in part reverse in

[1:00:20] part and modify the decision as follows.

[1:00:23] Uh, first I move that we modify the

[1:00:27] commission's

[1:00:29] decision of the $50 per day fine

[1:00:32] beginning after a 60-day period

[1:00:35] and instead

[1:00:37] based on our ordinances

[1:00:40] uh have it begin from July 29th, which

[1:00:43] was the day after their meeting to today

[1:00:47] ends at $50 a day for a total fine of

[1:00:50] $1,350.

[1:00:52] Also, I move that we reverse the portion

[1:00:54] of the commission's decision requiring

[1:00:56] the mural to be removed. I further move

[1:00:58] that we modify the commission's decision

[1:01:01] to approve this mural in its present

[1:01:03] form, as present location, and allow it

[1:01:05] to remain.

[1:01:07] >> Second.

[1:01:09] >> Okay. Motion made and seconded.

[1:01:13] We've already asked for comments,

[1:01:16] so

[1:01:18] >> All right. Say your first and last name,

[1:01:20] please.

[1:01:23] I'm Nancy Thomas and I'm confused here.

[1:01:26] You're finding one group of people yet

[1:01:31] the Bank of Montgomery has been up for

[1:01:34] years and has had no consequences. Will

[1:01:38] there be consequences against the Bank

[1:01:40] of Montgomery?

[1:01:43] >> A mural is a mural.

[1:01:45] >> There needs to be.

[1:01:46] >> That's not a It needs to be.

[1:01:47] >> There needs to be.

[1:01:48] >> It needs to be,

[1:01:49] >> but it's not an agenda item today. It

[1:01:51] needs to be since they are in the

[1:01:53] landmark district.

[1:01:55] >> City attorney Washington.

[1:01:56] >> Yeah. It's not an agenda item today, but

[1:01:58] >> yeah,

[1:01:58] >> it sounds like the council will and

[1:02:00] administration may address that.

[1:02:02] >> I'm sorry.

[1:02:02] >> It's not on the agenda today for us to

[1:02:04] kind of discuss.

[1:02:05] >> Oh, you will um attend to that at a

[1:02:08] later date.

[1:02:09] >> It sounds like from administration and

[1:02:11] the council we will

[1:02:12] >> Okay.

[1:02:12] >> discuss with them.

[1:02:14] >> Yeah. Because this today we're only here

[1:02:15] for for this one. the

[1:02:19] but that it needs to be. I agree with

[1:02:21] you.

[1:02:22] >> All right. Okay. We've got a motion.

[1:02:25] We've got a second.

[1:02:27] >> Mrs. Stacy, roll call vote.

[1:02:29] >> Eli,

[1:02:30] >> yes.

[1:02:30] >> Nelson,

[1:02:31] >> yes.

[1:02:31] >> Smith Kirkindall,

[1:02:33] >> yes.

[1:02:33] >> Harington,

[1:02:34] >> yes.

[1:02:34] >> PT,

[1:02:35] >> yes.

[1:02:35] >> All right, the motion carries. All

[1:02:38] right, our next agenda item.

[1:02:43] We have a proclamation and is read by

[1:02:45] Councilman PT. Thank you, mayor.

[1:02:47] Resolution number 058 of 2026, a

[1:02:51] proclamation declaring September

[1:02:53] 2026

[1:02:56] as national

[1:02:57] >> Councilman PT. Hold on. We got some

[1:02:59] Yeah, this makes sense.

[1:03:02] >> As people are leaving now.

[1:03:04] >> Okay. Thank you, sir.

[1:03:10] » Is the person here who did the mural

[1:03:12] >> or not?

[1:03:13] >> No, he's not here.

[1:03:16] I could make these out of town.

[1:03:18] >> The artist. You mean

[1:03:19] >> the artist? Yeah, the artist.

[1:03:23] >> Right.

[1:03:24] >> Okay. All right. Councilman, you can go.

[1:03:27] >> Uh proclamation declaring September 2026

[1:03:31] as national sick cell awareness month in

[1:03:33] the city of Nagades. Whereas September

[1:03:35] is national sickell awareness month. The

[1:03:38] observance passed by congressional

[1:03:40] resolution in 1983 was endorsed through

[1:03:43] presidential proclamation which spoke to

[1:03:46] the national progress that had been made

[1:03:48] to diagnose and treat sickle cell

[1:03:50] disease. Whereas the proclamation also

[1:03:54] cited the success of comprehensive

[1:03:56] cickle cell centers across the United

[1:03:58] States in establishing programs of

[1:04:01] research, training and community service

[1:04:04] to address sickle cell disorder, a blood

[1:04:06] disorder causing abnormalities in

[1:04:09] hemoglobin leading to the tailtale

[1:04:12] sickle shape in sufferers red blood

[1:04:14] cells. Whereas in the past decade there

[1:04:18] has been substantial progress in

[1:04:19] research on cickle cell disease

[1:04:22] diagnostic procedures have greatly

[1:04:24] improved. Whereas sickle cell disease

[1:04:27] pre prevents presents grave health

[1:04:30] challenges for an estimated 100,000

[1:04:33] Americans. For some it triggers episodes

[1:04:36] of pain, difficulty with vision and

[1:04:39] serious fatigue. Other survivors

[1:04:42] experience this disease more acutely.

[1:04:45] Sickle cell disease can cause

[1:04:48] infections, strokes, and even organ

[1:04:50] failure. Whereas for almost everyone

[1:04:53] impacted, coping with the inherited red

[1:04:56] blood cell disorder means putting plans

[1:04:59] off, on pause, living with excruciating

[1:05:02] pain, paying for expensive treatments,

[1:05:05] and hoping for a day when medications

[1:05:07] and doctor visits no longer interrupt

[1:05:10] life.

[1:05:11] Whereas during National Sickle Awareness

[1:05:13] Month, we recognize the persever

[1:05:16] perseverance of sickle cell disorder

[1:05:18] patients and we recommmit to working

[1:05:20] with our partners in state and local

[1:05:22] government, the nonprofit space and the

[1:05:25] private sector to develop treatments and cures for this debilitating disease.

[1:05:33] Whereas sickle cell disorder affects our

[1:05:36] population unevenly.

[1:05:39] Black and brown Americans are

[1:05:40] disproportionately affected. About 1 in

[1:05:43] 13 black children test positive for the

[1:05:46] sickle cell trait and about 1 in 365

[1:05:49] black Americans develop the disease over

[1:05:52] the course of their lifetime. Due to

[1:05:55] persistent systemic inequalities in our

[1:05:58] health care system, these fame patients

[1:06:00] are often last to get help.

[1:06:04] Whereas as we continue to research to

[1:06:06] find a cure for sick cell disease, let

[1:06:09] us celebrate the strides our health

[1:06:11] experts have made in understanding and

[1:06:13] treating this condition. Let let us

[1:06:15] continue to offer support to those

[1:06:17] that's battling every day. May I so move

[1:06:20] to adopt resolution number 058?

[1:06:24] >> Second.

[1:06:25] >> Motion made and seconded. Um, look, I

[1:06:29] mean, you read about the facts and uh,

[1:06:32] who is affected disproportionately and

[1:06:35] um, I think there's been some, we may

[1:06:38] have mentioned this last year, there

[1:06:39] have been some um, developments in six

[1:06:42] cell research, which is great. And so,

[1:06:44] we want to continue to bring attention.

[1:06:46] I do know there's an announcement later

[1:06:48] on well where um uh the women of Delta

[1:06:53] Sigma Theta have an event plans center

[1:06:56] around um sick cell information and

[1:07:00] things of that nature. So again I think

[1:07:02] Miss Julie are you here for this

[1:07:04] particular proclamation? any remarks you

[1:07:06] have or

[1:07:07] >> I would like to do the activities that

[1:07:10] we plan.

[1:07:11] >> Come on, say it on the mic front of your

[1:07:13] mind. State your first and last name and

[1:07:15] then whatever remarks you have.

[1:07:18] >> Judith Hayes.

[1:07:20] I'm here uh this is our sixth year and

[1:07:24] I'm coming in

[1:07:26] um the presence for uh the crew of

[1:07:30] excellence Delta Sigma Theta and other

[1:07:34] uh resource persons that will be

[1:07:37] participating in our endeavor to

[1:07:41] continue to um educate our system

[1:07:47] because this is a a deadly their disease

[1:07:50] and it's very painful for our young

[1:07:53] people when they have discovered that

[1:07:56] they have this disease.

[1:07:59] Now, um the crew of excellence will be

[1:08:03] giving out ribbons uh at the different

[1:08:06] uh uh stores and this is to get more

[1:08:12] people aware of the syel disease. On de

[1:08:17] on September the 19th from 10 to 12 at

[1:08:22] the m Martin Luther King Center, uh

[1:08:25] Delta Sigma Theta will host uh the

[1:08:29] annual sickle cell uh awareness event

[1:08:33] along with the outpatient clinic

[1:08:36] uh scarf.

[1:08:38] This is the sickle cell resource center

[1:08:41] in Alexandria, Louisiana. Zeta Faba

[1:08:44] sority and lastly but not least crew of

[1:08:49] excellence. Surely we want to give blood

[1:08:52] for those that are able to and it was

[1:08:56] announced that we are it is a shortage

[1:09:00] for uh donation of blood. So we need

[1:09:04] everybody

[1:09:05] uh collectively to come out and give

[1:09:08] blood.

[1:09:10] um the everyone can play a part in this

[1:09:15] effort and I would like to thank you for

[1:09:18] your time and consideration for having

[1:09:22] this month sickle cell anemia awareness

[1:09:25] month.

[1:09:26] >> Thank you so much ma'am. We appreciate

[1:09:28] you look and um again thank you for the

[1:09:31] work that you all are doing.

[1:09:32] >> All right.

[1:09:33] >> Did we have a I think we had a motion in

[1:09:34] a second.

[1:09:35] >> Any comment about this proclamation? I

[1:09:38] speak to mar just real quick. So I

[1:09:41] myself I have a trait. Uh I had a

[1:09:43] brother that passed. Uh he actually had

[1:09:46] the fullon sickle cell. My nephew Landon Hicks he had sickle cell but like

[1:09:52] right now he's in the process of going

[1:09:54] to like New Orleans to see if he'll

[1:09:56] qualify for like a transplant with the

[1:09:58] like stem cells. And so he had like a

[1:10:01] lot of blood work done. So it's a

[1:10:03] possibility that he can possibly like be

[1:10:05] cured. Like they had one guy, I forget

[1:10:08] where he was from. I think it was

[1:10:09] Louisiana,

[1:10:10] >> but he had a successful uh transplant.

[1:10:13] >> Wow.

[1:10:13] >> Yeah,

[1:10:14] >> that's good,

[1:10:16] >> man.

[1:10:17] >> Madison is making some improvements,

[1:10:19] right?

[1:10:20] >> So, we hope that uh

[1:10:21] >> So, I see that often like, you know,

[1:10:22] where they talked about like being in

[1:10:24] pain and stuff like that. I mean, it's really tough on them and he's only

[1:10:28] like 10 years old, you know, so it it be

[1:10:30] Yeah. When they when they go into a

[1:10:32] crisis, it be can be pretty rough.

[1:10:34] >> Yeah.

[1:10:37] All righty.

[1:10:42] » Excellence to come and we can take a

[1:10:45] picture. I think

[1:10:48] >> Okay. Or you want to do it? We could

[1:10:50] take one with you.

[1:10:51] >> Yeah. Come on. We'll just do you.

[1:10:55] >> Oh, crew of excellent delta. Hey. Oh,

[1:10:57] you y'all want to approve if I come back

[1:10:59] first?

[1:11:00] >> Hey, Mrs. Stacy. Real combo. Miss Judy,

[1:11:03] you don't have to go too far. That's

[1:11:05] okay.

[1:11:06] >> Eli,

[1:11:07] >> uh, yes.

[1:11:08] >> Nelson,

[1:11:09] >> yes.

[1:11:10] >> Smith Kirkindall,

[1:11:11] >> yes.

[1:11:12] >> Harington,

[1:11:12] >> yes.

[1:11:13] >> PT,

[1:11:13] >> yes.

[1:11:14] >> All right, that motion carries. All

[1:11:15] right, Miss Shooter.

[1:11:23] » Yeah. Yeah.

[1:11:26] Oh,

[1:11:28] that's

[1:11:30] too

[1:11:51] » big.

[1:12:05] They have too many meals.

[1:12:30] Appreciate y'all crew of excellence in

[1:12:32] Deltas. What community organization

[1:12:35] should be doing. Continue to bring that positive attention. All right.

[1:12:40] Next, we have another proclamation. It's

[1:12:42] read by Councilman Nielson.

[1:12:43] >> Thank you, Mayor. I'm getting hungry

[1:12:45] just looking at this one. Resolution

[1:12:48] number 61 of 2026, proclamation

[1:12:51] declaring September 18th and 19th, 2026

[1:12:56] as Nacades meat pie festival days in the

[1:12:59] city of Nacadesh. Whereas records show

[1:13:02] that the concept of the meat pie took

[1:13:04] shape in the mid 1700s in Louisiana by

[1:13:08] Native Americans and later enhanced by

[1:13:10] the Spanish. And whereas 56 years ago,

[1:13:14] James Lzion opened up his meat pie

[1:13:17] kitchen, which is still in operation

[1:13:19] today in historic downtown Nacadesh. And

[1:13:23] whereas the recipe of the meat pie has

[1:13:25] changed slightly from its inception and

[1:13:27] has been handed down from generation to

[1:13:29] generation. However, the basic

[1:13:32] ingredient and the process for creating

[1:13:34] a meat pie remains the same. And whereas

[1:13:37] with the abundance with an abundance of

[1:13:40] excitement in 2002, the Nacadish Meat

[1:13:43] Pie Festival was formed to celebrate the

[1:13:46] noted culinary staple in Nacades,

[1:13:49] Louisiana. And whereas in 2003, the

[1:13:52] Nacadish Meat Pie was named Louisiana's

[1:13:55] official meat pie. And Nacades was one

[1:13:58] of the last cities to not have an

[1:14:01] identified food festival until 2002. And

[1:14:05] whereas the annual festival attracts

[1:14:07] visitors from throughout the state in

[1:14:10] over a dozen of other states as well

[1:14:12] each year. And whereas the festival has

[1:14:15] always been a familyoriented

[1:14:18] non-admission required event over a

[1:14:20] two-day period in downtown Nacades

[1:14:24] helping to enhance the area's economy

[1:14:26] with individual activities that can be

[1:14:28] enjoyed at a small fee. And whereas the

[1:14:31] organizing committee for the festival is

[1:14:34] a complete volunteer committee. And

[1:14:36] whereas the Knackers Meepot Festival is

[1:14:39] returning by popular demand after a

[1:14:42] two-year break due to the novel Corona virus that needs to be taken out

[1:14:48] of there. Now therefore, I Ronnie

[1:14:50] Williams Jr. and the Nacades City

[1:14:52] Council do hereby proclaim September 18

[1:14:56] and 19, 2026 as Nakadesh meat pie

[1:15:00] festival dates.

[1:15:01] >> Oh, I see what you're saying.

[1:15:02] >> That we adopt resolution number 61 of

[1:15:05] 2026.

[1:15:06] >> Second.

[1:15:07] >> All right. Motion is made and second. I

[1:15:10] see what you're saying, Councilman Nson.

[1:15:12] So, we'll get that out for next year's

[1:15:15] proclamation. Hey, we just we've been

[1:15:17] doing these proclamations about it.

[1:15:20] um concern in regarding each of our

[1:15:24] festivals just kind of bring some

[1:15:25] attention. Obviously, we do videos as

[1:15:27] well. We dropped a video today on the

[1:15:28] Zidatico Festival. This particular

[1:15:30] festival is, as we see up here, the 18th

[1:15:34] and the 19th of September. Um so, we're

[1:15:37] looking forward and it's a while the

[1:15:38] Zadico Festival Chief is only $20 on

[1:15:42] that Saturday and Friday is free, but um

[1:15:45] what the Meep folks like to say, they're

[1:15:47] totally free all weekend. um admission

[1:15:50] that is obviously um any food you want

[1:15:53] you have to pay for that drinks and um

[1:15:56] they have some they have some rides and

[1:15:58] things like that. So it's going to be a

[1:16:00] fun weekend like I said already we're

[1:16:01] getting into a busy busy season.

[1:16:04] Christmas fest is coming obviously but

[1:16:05] even before that um like we said we'll

[1:16:09] talk about the Bigfoot um we've got

[1:16:12] Meepi, you've got the car show, you've

[1:16:14] got Top of the Boot, then so many other

[1:16:16] things happening. So, um, really great.

[1:16:19] But, you know, anytime we have people

[1:16:23] and go and talk to folks, they say

[1:16:25] something about the naggish meat pie

[1:16:26] and, uh, different ways to make them,

[1:16:29] you know. Um, so, so really that's one

[1:16:32] of the things that identify us. We don't

[1:16:34] have anybody I don't think we have

[1:16:36] anybody from the meat pie committee

[1:16:38] here, but again, we just kind of like to

[1:16:40] do this. This is one step in trying to

[1:16:42] bring attention to that festival. All

[1:16:44] righty. Um, any comments or questions

[1:16:46] here?

[1:16:49] >> All right. See, Mr. Sy, roll call vote.

[1:16:51] >> Eli,

[1:16:51] >> yes.

[1:16:52] >> Nelson,

[1:16:53] >> yes.

[1:16:53] >> Smith Perkin Doll,

[1:16:55] >> yes.

[1:16:55] >> Harrington,

[1:16:56] >> yes.

[1:16:56] >> PT,

[1:16:57] >> yes. All right, that motion carries.

[1:16:59] Again, the 19th, the 18th and 19th of

[1:17:01] September. All right, we have a couple

[1:17:04] ordinances that are up for a vote

[1:17:05] tonight. And the first one is read by

[1:17:07] Councilman Harrington. Ordinance 28 of

[1:17:10] 2026, an ordinance authorizing the mayor

[1:17:12] of the city of Nacadish to award the bid

[1:17:14] for hanger door replacement at the

[1:17:17] Nacadish regional airport. This was

[1:17:19] introduced at the last meeting. I move

[1:17:21] to adopt ordinance 28 of 2026.

[1:17:24] >> Second.

[1:17:25] >> Okay. Motion made and seconded. All

[1:17:28] right. Hangor replacement. I think this

[1:17:30] is 100% paid for by state and federal.

[1:17:34] Is that correct?

[1:17:35] >> That's correct.

[1:17:36] >> Okay. So,

[1:17:36] >> yeah. 95% FAA and 5% space.

[1:17:40] >> Okay, good.

[1:17:43] All right, any questions about this

[1:17:45] item?

[1:17:48] >> All right, seeing Mr. Stacy, roll call

[1:17:50] vote.

[1:17:51] >> Eli,

[1:17:51] >> yes.

[1:17:52] >> Nelson,

[1:17:53] >> yes.

[1:17:53] >> Smith Kirkindall,

[1:17:54] >> yes.

[1:17:55] >> Harington,

[1:17:55] >> yes.

[1:17:57] >> All right, that motion carries. Uh the

[1:17:59] second ordinance that's up for final is

[1:18:02] Councilman uh well it's dealing with

[1:18:04] revoking dedication but it's read by

[1:18:06] Councilman Nielson.

[1:18:08] Uh ordinance number 29 was introduced at

[1:18:11] our last meeting. I'll read it in title

[1:18:13] only. an ordinance revoking the

[1:18:15] dedication of a portion of Third Street

[1:18:18] which is situated in section 139

[1:18:21] Township 9 North Rain 7 West City and

[1:18:24] Parish and Nacades being that portion of

[1:18:28] Third Street located south of Church

[1:18:30] Street declaring that said portion of

[1:18:32] Third Street is abandoned and the

[1:18:35] dedication revoked providing for an

[1:18:38] effective date of the ordinance and

[1:18:40] saving clause and I've been assured that

[1:18:42] we get to retain the servitude. So I

[1:18:45] move to adopt ordinance number 29 of

[1:18:49] 2026.

[1:18:50] >> Second.

[1:18:51] >> Motion made and seconded.

[1:18:55] Um

[1:18:57] I think we have an attorney here but I

[1:18:59] don't if you don't have to say look I

[1:19:01] think most people didn't even realize

[1:19:04] this was

[1:19:05] >> a thing.

[1:19:06] >> Yeah. Like that that third street used

[1:19:09] to go that way. But um is here.

[1:19:12] >> That's all.

[1:19:13] >> Yeah. But he may or may not have

[1:19:14] anything to say. You want to say

[1:19:16] something?

[1:19:16] >> All right. You don't have to Chris.

[1:19:18] >> You good?

[1:19:19] >> Okay. State your first and last name

[1:19:21] there. Sir,

[1:19:21] >> Mr. Mayor uh city council. My name is

[1:19:24] Chris Henry and I initiated the request

[1:19:28] for abandonment on this property on

[1:19:31] behalf of the First Baptist Church and

[1:19:35] uh the new owner of my office, which is

[1:19:37] Fair Legacy 3 LLC.

[1:19:40] And this portion of Third Street has is

[1:19:45] very familiar to me because it's been my

[1:19:46] driveway for the last 34 years.

[1:19:50] And uh it was initially

[1:19:53] kept

[1:19:54] by uh the city as Third Street because

[1:19:58] it allowed access to St. Mary's which

[1:20:01] was originally behind which is now owned

[1:20:04] by the First Baptist Church. But again,

[1:20:07] uh the road is in really bad shape. It's

[1:20:13] got ruts and uh the Baptist church and

[1:20:17] uh the new owner uh Fair Legacy would

[1:20:20] like to u to basically repave it, make

[1:20:23] it a decent driveway and that's why

[1:20:26] we're we're we are requesting the

[1:20:28] abandonment at this time.

[1:20:31] >> Any question?

[1:20:31] >> You name is Henry. Any questions for Mr.

[1:20:33] Henry?

[1:20:34] >> All right. Thank you, sir.

[1:20:36] >> Thank you.

[1:20:37] >> Okay. Any other comments or questions?

[1:20:41] All right. I ain't seeing none. We did

[1:20:42] get a motion. Second, right?

[1:20:44] >> Yes.

[1:20:44] >> Uh, roll call vote.

[1:20:45] >> Eli,

[1:20:46] >> yes.

[1:20:46] >> Nelson,

[1:20:47] >> yes.

[1:20:47] >> Smith Kirk,

[1:20:49] >> yes.

[1:20:49] >> Harington,

[1:20:50] >> yes.

[1:20:52] >> All right, that motion carries.

[1:20:55] All right, we've got two ordinances that

[1:20:57] are for up for introduction tonight. And

[1:21:00] the first one is read by Councilman PT.

[1:21:03] >> Thank you, mayor. Ordinance number 030

[1:21:05] of 2026, an ordinance authorizing the

[1:21:08] mayor of the city of Nagadish, Ronnie

[1:21:10] Williams, to execute a lease in favor of

[1:21:13] JL Aviation of that 24,500

[1:21:17] square ft area shown and depicted on May

[1:21:21] 20 21 of 2026 survey Brandon C. Thornton

[1:21:26] and further providing for advertising of

[1:21:28] the lease and effective date. Whereas

[1:21:31] further under the authority of Louisiana

[1:21:33] Revised Statute 2135,

[1:21:36] the city has offered a lease with a term

[1:21:38] of 25 years with consideration of 12

[1:21:42] cent per square foot of a 2 or $2,940

[1:21:48] per year. All is set forth in an

[1:21:50] attached lease agreement by and between

[1:21:52] the city of negatives and JL Aviation

[1:21:56] together with an option to renew for an

[1:21:58] additional 25-year period. And this is

[1:22:01] for introduction only.

[1:22:06] Okay.

[1:22:10] So, Ed, just kind of give me some

[1:22:12] background here a minute.

[1:22:13] >> Yeah. This uh is Jeff Lindcott. This J

[1:22:16] as JL Aviation.

[1:22:19] He is interested or he's ready to uh

[1:22:23] move one of his businesses here to

[1:22:26] Nackadish. And if you see the two

[1:22:27] hangers in the kind of the upper left

[1:22:30] corner, the two tan hangers, his hanger

[1:22:32] will be like the next one further to

[1:22:35] your left. It will be larger than either

[1:22:37] one of those two hangers. It'll be the

[1:22:38] largest building on the airport. It's be

[1:22:40] a 100x 120 ft hanger. He has three

[1:22:44] helicopters, two airplanes, and he does

[1:22:48] it's all business. It's for um aerial

[1:22:52] mapping. He does with the helicopters.

[1:22:54] He does the aerial mapping like low and

[1:22:57] slow and down to the detail where um oh

[1:23:02] god, what's his name? Don Cumins at Air

[1:23:05] Data Solutions. He does his aerial

[1:23:07] survey in much higher and faster in

[1:23:11] airplanes. So this will be lower and

[1:23:13] slower and um I don't know the

[1:23:16] difference in the detail if one will be

[1:23:17] better than the other but they're not

[1:23:19] they won't be competing against each

[1:23:20] other in a way they'll be actually

[1:23:22] complenting each other and this will be

[1:23:25] a good u good addition to the airport

[1:23:30] >> how many you know how many vacancies we

[1:23:32] have now

[1:23:34] >> you mean as far as vac openings for

[1:23:36] airplanes we're full with airplanes

[1:23:38] >> okay in terms of hangers

[1:23:40] >> space and hangers Yeah,

[1:23:41] >> that are already built. But you we could

[1:23:43] build more.

[1:23:44] >> And we're working on uh it's a slow

[1:23:47] process, but we're working on building

[1:23:48] another set of tea hangers.

[1:23:50] >> Okay.

[1:23:51] >> But that's probably three or four years

[1:23:52] off before all the FAA funding and

[1:23:55] everything gets in place.

[1:23:58] >> Hey, it's good to be full.

[1:24:00] >> Yeah,

[1:24:00] >> good to be full.

[1:24:02] Any questions, comments, council?

[1:24:06] All right. So, we'll see this in our

[1:24:08] first meeting in September. We'll see

[1:24:11] this back.

[1:24:12] >> Okay. All right. We've got another item

[1:24:15] that has already been referenced a few

[1:24:17] times tonight um for introduction and

[1:24:19] Councilman Harrington is in charge of

[1:24:21] this one. This is ordinance 31 of 2026.

[1:24:24] An ordinance establishing a six-month

[1:24:26] moratorum upon the consideration receipt

[1:24:29] andor processing of all future impending

[1:24:33] applications for placement of a mural in

[1:24:35] the historic district of the city of

[1:24:36] Nacades setting a public hearing date

[1:24:39] and further providing with respect there

[1:24:41] too. Whereas the city of Nakage finds it

[1:24:43] necessary to oppose an immediate

[1:24:44] moratorium on the consideration, receipt

[1:24:46] or processing of all applications for

[1:24:49] any license or permit for the placement

[1:24:51] of murals in the historic district of

[1:24:53] the city of Nacades in order to provide

[1:24:55] time to research and possibly the

[1:24:57] development of and implementation of an

[1:24:59] ordinance that will provide

[1:25:00] clarification for the regulation and

[1:25:03] permitting of murals in the Nacadus

[1:25:05] Historic District. And whereas further

[1:25:08] an issue has recently come before the

[1:25:10] Nacadesh historic district commission

[1:25:12] regarding the placement of a mural

[1:25:13] within the Nacades Historic District and

[1:25:15] questions been raised regarding the

[1:25:17] regulation of murals under the current

[1:25:19] historic district ordinance and the

[1:25:21] possible impact that a mural may have to

[1:25:23] the character of the district and

[1:25:24] possible impact to the current

[1:25:26] designation of the district as a

[1:25:29] landmark district. And whereas further

[1:25:32] the city council's opinion, it is in the

[1:25:34] interest of the citizens of the city of

[1:25:36] Nacades as well as a Nacadesh historic

[1:25:38] district to undertake research aimed at

[1:25:40] the possible development of an ordinance

[1:25:42] that will provide for clear and

[1:25:44] objective standards and regulations that

[1:25:46] protect the historic character of this

[1:25:48] Nacades historic district which ensuring

[1:25:51] that any regulations comply with

[1:25:52] applicable constitutional requirements.

[1:25:55] And whereas further the city council of

[1:25:58] the city of Nacish would like to

[1:25:59] research and study how other historic

[1:26:01] districts regulate and enforce murals

[1:26:04] and review guidelines from the United

[1:26:06] States Department of the Interior in

[1:26:07] order to determine what guidelines,

[1:26:09] standards, criteria, and other

[1:26:11] procedures are necessary to regulate

[1:26:13] murals in the Nacadus historic district.

[1:26:16] And whereas further the city council of

[1:26:18] the city of Nacadus has the authority to

[1:26:20] adopt a moratorum for the purpose of

[1:26:22] preserving the status quo while

[1:26:24] guidelines, standards, criter criteria

[1:26:26] and procedures are considered prepared

[1:26:28] and adopted.

[1:26:30] And now therefore, be it ordained that

[1:26:32] the city of Nacadas hereby imposes a

[1:26:34] moratorum upon the consideration,

[1:26:36] receipt, and or processing of all future

[1:26:39] applications or permits for placement of

[1:26:41] murals in the Nacades historic district

[1:26:43] for 6 months from the effective date of

[1:26:45] this ordinance until the city has

[1:26:47] completed its study and implemented any

[1:26:49] changes deemed necessary. This is for

[1:26:51] introduction only.

[1:26:53] >> All right. Okay.

[1:26:59] » Yeah.

[1:27:03] And actually this is probably for the

[1:27:05] city attorney. Um our commission meets

[1:27:10] on September the 8th. There is an

[1:27:13] application that has been put in for

[1:27:16] another mural. How are we to address

[1:27:19] this since you are requesting a

[1:27:21] moratorum?

[1:27:24] >> How often y'all meet?

[1:27:26] >> We meet once a month.

[1:27:28] >> Okay. The city council will meet after

[1:27:31] we meet.

[1:27:33] >> What is the next date of your meeting?

[1:27:35] >> September

[1:27:37] 14th.

[1:27:38] >> So we meet September the 8th.

[1:27:41] >> Okay. Could y'all delay that until this

[1:27:44] final vote?

[1:27:45] >> I mean that would be I guess up to I

[1:27:47] mean I can but

[1:27:49] >> I don't I don't know your your rules on

[1:27:51] your meetings. Is it

[1:27:53] >> You mean can we delay our meeting is

[1:27:55] what you're asking? Not not the meeting

[1:27:56] except the the item that's on your

[1:27:58] agenda.

[1:28:00] >> Shantrell

[1:28:03] » I don't know I this has never come up

[1:28:05] before.

[1:28:07] >> We can ask the applicant.

[1:28:09] >> Yeah I can look or look at your rules

[1:28:11] and it should

[1:28:12] >> there's nothing in the rules about

[1:28:15] this particular

[1:28:16] >> No this is a agenda item that's on

[1:28:19] >> this is an agenda it's on the agenda.

[1:28:21] You can you could knowing that there's

[1:28:23] new legislation coming from the city

[1:28:25] council,

[1:28:26] >> you could move to table that to wait for

[1:28:30] the ruling the the vote for the city

[1:28:32] council.

[1:28:32] >> I just want to make sure whatever we do

[1:28:34] is proper procedure.

[1:28:36] >> I I think I would suggest

[1:28:38] >> tableabling it and explain that to the

[1:28:41] applicant.

[1:28:42] >> Okay. Yeah.

[1:28:42] >> Well, I I could to make it to clare to

[1:28:46] make it more, you know, it might make it

[1:28:49] easier is right now this says

[1:28:52] um from the effective date of this

[1:28:55] ordinance, which will mean the day we

[1:28:57] vote on it. I could say a six-month

[1:28:59] moratorum from the date of the

[1:29:01] introduction of this ordinance.

[1:29:04] >> Yeah. So once it's once it's voted on,

[1:29:07] it'll be retroactive to today.

[1:29:10] >> And that how you will vote on somebody's

[1:29:13] application that's already been filed by

[1:29:15] passing a law to retroactively impact an

[1:29:18] application that's been filed. I don't

[1:29:20] know how you do that.

[1:29:22] >> And I don't know how you continue it

[1:29:23] either then.

[1:29:24] >> And I'll be deadly honest with you. This

[1:29:26] is City Bank. They have been trying to

[1:29:30] get this approved. They have not filed

[1:29:32] an application for a long time, but they

[1:29:34] have come and been working with insalter

[1:29:38] for months and months trying to

[1:29:40] formulate something that would be

[1:29:42] acceptable to the commission and then

[1:29:44] followed our rules.

[1:29:46] See, we I I went and tal I went and

[1:29:48] talked to them because I knew that in

[1:29:50] the background we were trying to work

[1:29:52] with some ordinance trying to get an

[1:29:54] ordinance built for this and I asked

[1:29:56] them to put it off and they were going

[1:29:59] to come before they filed to come last

[1:30:01] month and we said no, we need to wait

[1:30:03] and see what the city council does. I'm

[1:30:06] just trying, you know, I want to follow

[1:30:07] all the rules. I want to make it easy

[1:30:09] for them. I don't want to go through

[1:30:11] this again. We've had to go through with

[1:30:12] the tailor. It's not fair to us and it's

[1:30:14] not fair to the applicant

[1:30:16] >> and so I need advice.

[1:30:17] >> Yeah, I would I would at your meeting

[1:30:20] have a discussion about it and y'all can

[1:30:22] move to to table it and tell the city

[1:30:24] council to vote on the next legislation

[1:30:27] since you know it's coming.

[1:30:28] >> But I see what Jared's saying. They

[1:30:30] filed under the current ordinances. So

[1:30:33] their application is like the tailor or

[1:30:36] under how the ordinances stand today. So

[1:30:39] then how can they table it and then we

[1:30:41] come back and say oh we changed the

[1:30:42] ordinances now

[1:30:43] >> what they filed

[1:30:45] >> another issue is too they file an

[1:30:48] application for a mural. Oh yeah.

[1:30:50] >> Yes. And it's larger than that mural.

[1:30:53] >> Okay.

[1:30:53] >> Takes up the whole wall.

[1:30:55] >> It's 18t tall, 37 feet wide.

[1:30:59] >> Yeah. And that's the problem I thought

[1:31:00] we were going to get into. People just

[1:31:02] going to want to put up murals and you

[1:31:04] have to have something. You open a

[1:31:05] Pandora's open Pandora for other to do

[1:31:08] this. But I would think that you all

[1:31:10] would have the um

[1:31:12] >> legal ability to just post I mean not

[1:31:15] postpone but give let them know that

[1:31:19] they that you're not

[1:31:21] uh agreeing to give them a permit just

[1:31:24] >> that's why I'm asking the city attorney

[1:31:26] legally what can we do success

[1:31:37] the only reason you're taking that

[1:31:38] applications because you know this is

[1:31:40] going to get passed and so you want it

[1:31:42] to apply to us. You really can't change

[1:31:44] the rules of the game after it started

[1:31:46] and from their standpoint the game

[1:31:49] started when they filed their

[1:31:50] application.

[1:31:51] >> So the rules should be defined based on

[1:31:53] what they were what the rules existed as

[1:31:56] the time the application was filed. And

[1:31:58] so that's why one of the reasons I

[1:32:01] cautioned about allowing murals in the

[1:32:03] first place because I don't think we're

[1:32:05] now going to be able to say, "Oh,

[1:32:07] that's, you know, that's not good art.

[1:32:10] It's just going to be, hey, we allow

[1:32:12] murals. The murals

[1:32:15] get approved.

[1:32:17] >> I want to see a more in place."

[1:32:19] >> I could just take a look at y'all rules.

[1:32:22] >> Pardon me?

[1:32:22] >> I could take a look at y'all rules

[1:32:24] before your meeting.

[1:32:27] >> Okay. Okay.

[1:32:27] >> Cuz you said this is a bigger one. This

[1:32:29] is already already made and this is

[1:32:30] being introduced.

[1:32:31] >> This one uh Mr. Taylor, do you remember

[1:32:33] the size of this mural?

[1:32:36] >> 8 ft by 24.

[1:32:37] >> Pardon me.

[1:32:38] >> 8 ft by

[1:32:39] >> 8 ft.

[1:32:42] by 24 ft. Okay. Theirs is 24 ft

[1:32:45] long. This one is 37t long. Okay.

[1:32:49] >> Theirs is 4t tall.

[1:32:51] >> 8 ft tall.

[1:32:52] This is 18t tall.

[1:32:56] >> Mhm. And it's on the side of your

[1:32:58] building.

[1:33:00] >> It's not if they own that side of the

[1:33:01] building, but that's where it's located.

[1:33:04] >> So, we're in a conundrum again.

[1:33:06] >> Yeah.

[1:33:07] >> What do we do?

[1:33:09] >> We're back to square one.

[1:33:11] >> So, were you going to approve this one?

[1:33:14] That's the question.

[1:33:15] >> Who's talking? Oh, I'm sorry.

[1:33:16] >> Me, Councilwoman.

[1:33:19] >> I'm sorry. I couldn't I knew it was a

[1:33:20] lady. I couldn't find you.

[1:33:21] >> Our current ordinances don't say

[1:33:22] anything about size or anything. That's

[1:33:24] why we have that's why you got to get

[1:33:26] this as far as sizing and everything.

[1:33:28] >> They've already appi they've already

[1:33:30] they've slipped in your question. Would

[1:33:33] I have voted to approve the application?

[1:33:35] Absolutely not. I don't think I think

[1:33:37] it's a hor it's a horrible idea to allow

[1:33:39] me

[1:33:40] the first place and so I I just don't I

[1:33:44] wouldn't have done it. I think the vast

[1:33:46] majority I can't speak for him but based

[1:33:48] on observations that I have I don't

[1:33:49] think hardly anybody on that commission

[1:33:52] >> I would be concerned because of the size

[1:33:54] that it would not not pass and when I

[1:33:58] started conversation with city bank

[1:34:00] months ago I told Josh that they could

[1:34:04] apply as a sign because they are

[1:34:06] grandfathered in from the fact that they

[1:34:09] already have two existing signs painted

[1:34:12] on their building. And I said, Josh, if

[1:34:15] you take the two signs and put them

[1:34:17] together, that would be adequate, that would be grandfathered in because

[1:34:23] that's what you had before. They're

[1:34:24] eliminating the two making one. And that

[1:34:28] would be the size to me that would be

[1:34:30] allowable under the grandfather clause.

[1:34:32] And they're grandfathered in because

[1:34:33] it's been up there, I don't know, 40, 50

[1:34:36] years. It's been up there forever, you

[1:34:38] know. So, but now because of this, I

[1:34:42] need to know legally what I can do.

[1:34:45] >> Yeah. I think you if your rules don't

[1:34:48] allow for you to delay it, I think you

[1:34:50] make a decision and maybe we end up with

[1:34:52] an appeal here again and then we can

[1:34:54] address whether or not the moratorum

[1:34:57] suspends the action that was taken by

[1:34:59] your

[1:35:00] >> some guidance about I mean, how are we

[1:35:04] supposed to evaluate this. I mean, we have specific

[1:35:11] rules. We just didn't think these were

[1:35:13] prohibited and so we just weren't going

[1:35:16] to approve it. I mean, are we supposed

[1:35:18] to consider the quality of the artwork

[1:35:21] that's done, the color of it? I mean, I

[1:35:24] don't know how, you know, whether or not

[1:35:26] it comply or it complements the rest of

[1:35:29] the community. I just don't know how

[1:35:31] we're supposed to evaluate city banks

[1:35:33] applications. We don't have any rules to

[1:35:36] apply to their application.

[1:35:38] >> Yeah. And currently, that's the reason

[1:35:40] we're doing this. You It's vague.

[1:35:42] Darness is vague.

[1:35:44] >> So, we got to deal with it where it is.

[1:35:46] >> So, you see how we were a month ago.

[1:35:48] >> Yeah.

[1:35:49] We have no guidance and that's why

[1:35:51] we're here.

[1:35:51] >> See now,

[1:35:52] >> I don't I think the definition of a

[1:35:55] significant

[1:36:03] is

[1:36:06] It's not. Yeah, it's not. Well, it's

[1:36:08] not. Murals is not in the ordinance.

[1:36:10] Okay. So, it's not but it's not

[1:36:11] prohibited either.

[1:36:13] >> We do have definition because we

[1:36:16] required to get approval of every

[1:36:17] alteration

[1:36:19] >> if that type of addition is not

[1:36:21] permitted under the rules. I think by

[1:36:22] definition it's not allowed,

[1:36:24] >> right?

[1:36:25] >> Default to to not allowing it. But I we

[1:36:28] just want to make sure when we're

[1:36:30] dealing with city bank on our next

[1:36:33] meeting that we don't do something

[1:36:35] because they really want that sign up

[1:36:36] there

[1:36:37] >> and we tell them no

[1:36:40] that we don't uh turn around and get the

[1:36:43] city sued. We don't we're trying to call

[1:36:46] less problem. So

[1:36:48] >> okay.

[1:36:49] >> Yeah. I think you make your decision if

[1:36:50] we can't

[1:36:52] >> no other way.

[1:36:52] >> All right. Thank you.

[1:36:53] >> Just the process.

[1:36:54] >> All right. Thank you.

[1:36:56] >> Okay. And again, this is just

[1:36:57] introduction,

[1:36:59] so we have a little time to think about

[1:37:01] this some more, and it'll be on our

[1:37:04] September 14th meeting. Okay.

[1:37:07] >> Yep. Okay. All right. We have two

[1:37:10] resolutions left

[1:37:13] and the first resolution is read by

[1:37:16] Councilwoman Laura Smith, Kirk.

[1:37:18] >> Thank you, Mayor. This is a resolution

[1:37:21] number 059 of 2026.

[1:37:24] A resolution approving a temporary site

[1:37:28] license with new singular wireless PCS

[1:37:31] and authorizing the mayor of the city of

[1:37:33] Nacage, Ronnie Williams Jr. to execute

[1:37:35] same on behalf of the city of Nacage.

[1:37:38] Whereas the city has has negotiated a

[1:37:40] temporary site license with the new

[1:37:43] Singular Wireless

[1:37:46] PCS LLC,

[1:37:49] referred to as Singular, which will

[1:37:51] allow Singular to temporarily locate

[1:37:55] communications transmitting and

[1:37:57] receiving equipment on property of the

[1:37:58] city of Nakage. Whereas the whereas the

[1:38:02] agreement would provide for improved

[1:38:04] communications for citizens of and

[1:38:06] visitors to the city of Nackis during a

[1:38:09] period increased tourism from October

[1:38:12] 3rd, 2026

[1:38:14] through January 9, 2027.

[1:38:18] And whereas further the city council

[1:38:20] this is,

[1:38:23] excuse me, whereas further the city

[1:38:25] council

[1:38:27] is of the opinion that the agreement

[1:38:28] will be beneficial to the citizens of

[1:38:31] the city of Nacanish as well as visitors

[1:38:34] to the city as the increase in effective

[1:38:37] cellular communication will result in an

[1:38:40] increased safety of citizens and

[1:38:42] visitors as well as convenience to

[1:38:44] citizens and visitors. And whereas

[1:38:47] further the city council of the city of

[1:38:49] Nakash hereby has reviewed and approved

[1:38:53] the attached temporary site license.

[1:38:56] Now therefore be it resolved by the city

[1:38:58] council consider the attached temporary

[1:39:01] license. I I move uh well this is just

[1:39:04] for introduction.

[1:39:07] So

[1:39:07] >> no it's a resolution. So it's it's you

[1:39:10] could

[1:39:11] >> introduction.

[1:39:12] >> No it's resolution.

[1:39:13] >> No you can vote on it. Yeah you can

[1:39:15] motion. Whereas further the city council

[1:39:18] um of NASA Louisiana has reviewed and

[1:39:21] approved the attached temporary site

[1:39:23] license and desires to authorize the

[1:39:26] mayor Ronda Williams Jr. to execute same

[1:39:28] and therefore now be resolved by the

[1:39:31] city council of the city of Nackage that

[1:39:33] the attend that the attached temporary

[1:39:35] site license is approved and that the

[1:39:38] mayor of the city of Nakage Ronda

[1:39:40] Williams Jr. is hereby authorized to

[1:39:42] execute the attached temporary site

[1:39:44] license. So I move for adoption

[1:39:46] resolution number 059 2026.

[1:39:49] >> Second motion made and seconded. Ed, I

[1:39:52] know this is something we do every year,

[1:39:54] right?

[1:39:54] >> Yeah, we've been doing this for many

[1:39:56] years. All the infrastructure is in

[1:39:58] place. All they have to do is bring

[1:40:00] their covered trailer, plug it in, hook

[1:40:03] up their electric meter, raise their

[1:40:05] antenna. And I'm I'm sure I'm

[1:40:07] oversimplifying it, but it's been there

[1:40:09] since they've been doing this for

[1:40:11] probably close to 20 years now, just

[1:40:13] guessing. Every year

[1:40:15] >> support Christmas festival day or

[1:40:17] >> throughout the season?

[1:40:19] >> The the whole season. They'll put it up

[1:40:20] in October and they'll take it down in

[1:40:22] January. And it's

[1:40:24] >> u some of y'all may recall at Christmas

[1:40:27] Festival, you use your phone, you can't

[1:40:28] get a signal, you can't call. This is to

[1:40:32] boost um add I guess capacity to the

[1:40:36] cell towers and make it easier for

[1:40:38] people to be able to call, text, email,

[1:40:41] whatever it is they do on their phone.

[1:40:44] >> Yeah, it's pretty bad during Christmas

[1:40:46] fest of time. You can't talk.

[1:40:47] >> Yeah, this is supposed to help that

[1:40:50] depend.

[1:40:50] >> Has it been helping?

[1:40:51] >> Pardon me.

[1:40:52] >> It's been helping with that.

[1:40:53] >> Oh yeah.

[1:40:53] >> Yeah.

[1:40:54] >> I can remember years ago. I mean, you

[1:40:57] just couldn't you couldn't even get out.

[1:40:59] So, this has been helpful.

[1:41:00] >> Okay. I guess I'm trying to stream the

[1:41:02] SEC game and then always let me stream

[1:41:04] that, though. But

[1:41:05] >> yeah, but everything's in place. All

[1:41:07] they have to do is is pull up, hook up,

[1:41:10] and and go. And they paid for all the

[1:41:12] infrastructure. The city did, and they

[1:41:14] did this many years ago.

[1:41:17] >> Okay. Any other questions?

[1:41:21] >> All right. There's something we've been

[1:41:23] doing that we need to do. All right. Uh,

[1:41:25] Mrs. Stacy, roll call vote. Eli,

[1:41:28] >> yes.

[1:41:28] >> Nelson,

[1:41:29] >> yes.

[1:41:29] >> Smith, Perkendall,

[1:41:30] >> yes.

[1:41:31] >> Harington,

[1:41:31] >> yes.

[1:41:32] >> PT,

[1:41:32] >> yes. All right, that motion carries.

[1:41:34] Last resolution of the night. Then we

[1:41:37] just have a few announcements is

[1:41:39] Councilwoman Washington Eli.

[1:41:41] >> Thank you, Mayor. I'm going to read

[1:41:43] title only, which we already know what

[1:41:45] the home room charter states at section

[1:41:48] 48.

[1:41:50] Uh resolution

[1:41:52] 060 of 2026, a resolution confirming

[1:41:56] that appointed of Blake Dawson as the

[1:41:58] recreation

[1:42:00] department for the city of Nagish. And I

[1:42:04] move to adopt resolution number 60,

[1:42:07] 2026.

[1:42:09] >> Second.

[1:42:09] >> Motion made and seconded. Um Blake, I

[1:42:12] think council, y'all have his resume and

[1:42:16] um I think another document that I I

[1:42:18] sent over there to you. I sent to you

[1:42:20] via email. But um Blake has been with

[1:42:24] the city parks and wreck. Now we're

[1:42:28] approaching seven years. Um it will be a

[1:42:31] seamless transition. Um for Blake to do

[1:42:34] it, he's got an education background. I

[1:42:37] think teachers can do anything they want

[1:42:38] to do. So I think they're great at just

[1:42:41] about everything. Train them a little

[1:42:42] bit. But um yeah, so

[1:42:47] people know him in the community. Um

[1:42:51] although he's not from here, he's been

[1:42:54] here for how long, Blake?

[1:42:56] >> 20 years.

[1:42:57] That's half That's more than

[1:42:59] half your life.

[1:43:00] >> That's right.

[1:43:00] >> Right about half your life. Okay. All

[1:43:02] right. So Blake, any remarks you'd like

[1:43:05] to make at this time?

[1:43:06] >> Uh just thank you. Thank you for your

[1:43:07] appointment. Uh it's not something I

[1:43:09] take lightly and thank you city council

[1:43:11] for your support and your confidence.

[1:43:14] >> Right. Okie dokie. Any comments or

[1:43:17] questions?

[1:43:23] » Okay. Seeing now Mr. Stacy. Roll call.

[1:43:27] >> Yes.

[1:43:27] >> Nelson.

[1:43:28] >> Yes.

[1:43:29] >> Smith Kirkind Doll.

[1:43:30] >> Yes.

[1:43:30] >> Harrington.

[1:43:31] >> Yes.

[1:43:31] >> PT.

[1:43:32] >> Yes.

[1:43:32] >> All right. That motion carries. Blake is

[1:43:34] going to do a great job for city and

[1:43:35] agonist parks and recck. All right. Uh

[1:43:38] our next meeting is on the 14th. All

[1:43:40] right. And then we're closed. Wanted to

[1:43:42] say we're closed on next Friday. That's

[1:43:45] that employee appreciation day. And then

[1:43:47] also we're closed for Labor Day. So we

[1:43:50] kind of give a long weekend, a longer

[1:43:52] weekend there. All right. We always

[1:43:54] encourage people to download the goatish

[1:43:57] download um regroup because that's where

[1:44:00] we put road closures, blockages, street blockages if you will,

[1:44:06] streets that are being blocked off. Uh

[1:44:09] the Cane River Zadico Festival, as I

[1:44:11] said, we dropped the video today where,

[1:44:13] you know, Bigfoot is going to be in town

[1:44:14] in a couple days. I mean, actual

[1:44:16] Bigfoot, I'm being serious. and uh we're

[1:44:18] going to record a video with him and uh

[1:44:21] he's said he's going to go somewhere and

[1:44:23] come back Labor Day weekend, but we do

[1:44:26] have the festival. He's going to be here

[1:44:27] on Labor Day weekend, Septe September

[1:44:29] 5th. And this is the third annual from 9

[1:44:32] to 6 p.m. So, we got two things

[1:44:34] happening. Zadico Fest, it's free that

[1:44:37] Friday night to Zadico Fest only $20

[1:44:40] that Saturday. Um, I know they're having

[1:44:43] Rusty Matuire and I know you're having

[1:44:46] Marcus Aran on that particular night.

[1:44:48] There's a poker run. Um, there's

[1:44:50] Zadico's dance fest. And if you saw the

[1:44:53] video today, you know, you know I'm I'm

[1:44:56] going to be doing the Zadico dance fest,

[1:44:58] whatever. Uh, dance competition, I think

[1:45:00] it is. All right. Um, and then we also

[1:45:03] have the Bigfoot Festival happening at

[1:45:04] the Nagades Event Center from 9:00 to

[1:45:05] 6:00 p.m. So, uh, we're looking to get

[1:45:07] people, uh, out to these, uh, events.

[1:45:10] again shaping up to be a pretty busy

[1:45:12] weekend. Again, that's next weekend.

[1:45:16] >> All right. Then we have 25 years of the

[1:45:19] Nacadesh Meepot Festival and we've

[1:45:21] already talked about that with the

[1:45:22] proclamation. We just ask people to come

[1:45:24] out and we'll try to do what we can to

[1:45:26] promote. I know they have a Facebook

[1:45:27] page like these other organizations do,

[1:45:29] but we'll do the best we can to help to

[1:45:31] promote it. All right, sickale. You

[1:45:34] heard Miss Judith earlier, Miss Judith

[1:45:35] Hayes mention uh this event put on by

[1:45:38] the Nagas alumni chapter of DEX Delta

[1:45:41] Sigma Theta sorority. This is the third

[1:45:43] annual sick cell uh awareness event is

[1:45:46] at the outpatient medical clinic or I

[1:45:49] think they're in collaboration with

[1:45:50] let's see it's going to be at the MLK

[1:45:53] Recreation Center from 10 to 12:00 p.m.

[1:45:56] on um Meepot Festival Day uh September

[1:46:00] 19th that Saturday. opportunity to give

[1:46:02] blood and um you know to help support

[1:46:04] sex and learn about the disease and

[1:46:07] maybe some progress that's been made.

[1:46:10] All right, annual gayla. We've been

[1:46:12] announcing this for a few weeks now. The

[1:46:14] women resource center on September 24th

[1:46:17] and it's always Nagus Event Center.

[1:46:19] Usually a really good crowd. So um I

[1:46:22] know the people within the city who look

[1:46:23] forward to this event happening every

[1:46:25] year.

[1:46:27] The Nagadus car show is taking place on

[1:46:30] that first weekend in October uh the

[1:46:33] second and third. So um I think it's

[1:46:35] grown just about every year and um you

[1:46:38] know Nacket is just fortunate to have I

[1:46:41] know Councilwoman at large and others

[1:46:43] appreciate it historic district

[1:46:45] commission but also we've got other

[1:46:47] groups as well uh who helped to make

[1:46:49] Nagish what it is. So historic district

[1:46:51] business association is one of the

[1:46:53] events they put on in addition to

[1:46:55] Christmas festival. So kudos to them and

[1:46:57] we certainly want to be there to support

[1:46:59] our downtown businesses on this

[1:47:01] particular day. See what cars out there.

[1:47:02] One of my favorite events on on the

[1:47:04] calendar. All right. Top of the booth.

[1:47:06] This is new this year. Um Northwestern

[1:47:09] is putting this on to help to support

[1:47:11] some efforts that they have. But

[1:47:13] everything I hear about it's going to be

[1:47:14] a really really good really good

[1:47:16] turnout. Um the artists that they have

[1:47:19] I'm told are really really big. I think

[1:47:21] they're more of the country. Are they

[1:47:23] more country? like that's what it is.

[1:47:25] But um I heard that there some pretty

[1:47:27] big names. So this is Yeah, it's some

[1:47:30] pretty big names. So Top of the Boot,

[1:47:31] that's happening 16 to 17. And obviously

[1:47:34] when I support tickets on sale now, uh

[1:47:36] with that, they also have the house that

[1:47:38] they're raffling off as well, which is,

[1:47:40] you know, separate effort, but you know,

[1:47:43] we love to support our university. Have

[1:47:45] y'all had a chance to take a look at the

[1:47:46] sign? Anybody out there on the

[1:47:47] interstate? The refurbished sign? Take a

[1:47:49] look at it when you go out there. Um it looks really nice. uh the sign which

[1:47:54] is you know it's the same one on the

[1:47:55] hill but

[1:47:56] >> there's been some work been some work to

[1:47:58] it uh partnership with Kane River

[1:48:00] National Heritage Heritage Area uh the

[1:48:03] city of Nacatish and Northwestern State

[1:48:05] University so it looks really good so

[1:48:07] that's happening 16 and 17 I think we

[1:48:08] have one or two more that's it okay all

[1:48:10] right great so a lot of announcements a

[1:48:13] lot of things coming up this is our busy

[1:48:14] season so um but at this time we'll hear

[1:48:17] a motion to adjourn

[1:48:18] >> I make a motion that we adjourn

[1:48:20] >> second

[1:48:20] >> All right in favor I

[1:48:22] >> All Hey, meeting is a J. Y'all have a

[1:48:24] great night everybody. Hey

Natchitoches City Council Meeting August 24, 2026

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