[0:05] >> Welcome to the regular

[0:07] bonfils Commission Planning

[0:09] Commission meeting. We are a

[0:10] nine-member commission

[0:13] appointed by City Council. To

[0:13] make recommendations on a

[0:16] variety of zoning land use and

[0:22] development related requests.

[0:23] Please do to provide comments

[0:27] during the allotted time.

[0:28] We're citizens communications

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[0:50] personnel. Could we have a

[0:53] roll call, please victory.

[0:56] >> Commissioner Nulty.

[1:00] Commissioner here Commissioner

[1:01] Talen Commissioner Mathis hear

[1:04] Commissioner Alan.

[1:06] Commissioner Henry here, vice

[1:11] chair. Also here. Chair and

[1:21] commissioner Breezier.

[1:22] >> We have a motion for the

[1:22] approval of last month's

[1:25] minutes. Motion to approve the

[1:29] minutes as written. Motion and

[1:31] second all in favor. All

[1:39] opposed. Motion carries. This

[1:40] time. It's for persons to

[1:41] address the planning

[1:43] Commission any items. Our

[1:47] issues not on the agenda is a

[1:48] violation of the Texas Open

[1:50] Meetings Act. For the

[1:52] commission to address, discuss

[1:54] or take action on any night

[1:59] items, not on the agenda. Each

[1:59] speaker is limited to 3

[2:00] minutes and must state their

[2:02] name and whether they are

[2:05] resin. New Braunfels. Anyone

[2:08] who wishes to speak on items,

[2:09] items the agenda. Mason do so.

[2:12] Now. Who have anyone that

[2:13] would like to speak items, not

[2:21] on the agenda. Seeing none.

[2:23] Move on to the individual

[2:25] items. I will announce the

[2:27] request. Our Steph City staff

[2:30] will present a summary of the

[2:31] case and will answer any

[2:31] questions asked by the

[2:34] commissioners. The applicant

[2:36] or agent would be allowed to

[2:37] come forward and have a kid

[2:41] for their request. Will open

[2:42] the public hearing and people

[2:42] will have 3 minutes to speak

[2:45] on each item. And there will

[2:47] be a total of 30 minutes. For

[2:54] all speakers. We'll close the

[2:54] public caring for a discussion

[3:02] of potential First item is c s

[3:05] to 6 0, 2, 7, 8, public

[3:08] hearing in consideration

[3:10] request by League Enterprises

[3:11] incorporated for an appeal

[3:15] section. 1, 4 Dash 5 do it to

[3:19] 2. Non-residential Inman,

[3:22] multifamily design standards.

[3:24] To allow for a deviation from

[3:28] the articulation requirements.

[3:29] For a proposed out on field

[3:33] dealership. And 2, 3, 8, age.

[3:34] 35 south and this e 3

[3:38] commercial district. Colton

[3:41] the floor, Thank you, MISTER

[3:41] Chair and Good evening.

[3:42] Commissioners School to Barker

[3:43] with the brothels neighborhood

[3:46] community planning.

[3:47] >> The first item this evening

[3:48] is an appeal to the city's

[3:50] building design standards,

[3:50] particularly as they relate to

[3:52] or is on office and

[3:54] articulation for proposed

[3:55] dealership redevelopment

[3:59] along. I-35. This is the first

[3:59] appeal of this type to come

[4:00] before the planning commission

[4:02] since the 2021 zoning Code

[4:02] amendments signed this review

[4:07] authority. Salute also mean a

[4:11] little the subject property

[4:13] this evening is just under 5

[4:15] acres France. The ice. 35

[4:16] access road as well as McCain

[4:20] Mcqueeney Road to the East.

[4:21] >> The property is located

[4:23] within Lucy, 3 commercial

[4:25] district adjacent properties

[4:26] on the Southside of 35 are

[4:26] also see 3 in commercially

[4:30] developed. No zoning changes

[4:31] or land use modifications are

[4:35] associated with this request.

[4:36] These photos show the current

[4:38] site conditions. The applicant

[4:40] intends to demolish the vacant

[4:41] dealership building and

[4:42] redevelop the property with a

[4:43] new dealership and continue

[4:46] its established use. The

[4:48] request before you is limited

[4:50] to a single building design

[4:51] element and does not affect

[4:51] any other site development

[4:52] standards that the development

[4:54] is required. As a few more

[5:01] slides here. Of the property.

[5:02] Under the city's

[5:03] non-residential design

[5:04] standards, large commercial

[5:05] buildings must include among

[5:06] other elements, horizontal

[5:09] facade, articulation These are

[5:10] perpendicular offsets intended

[5:12] to reduce long, flat exterior

[5:13] walls and introduce a visual

[5:16] interest in building design.

[5:17] The ordinance establishes 3

[5:17] main requirements when it

[5:18] comes to horizontally.

[5:21] Articulation. There's a

[5:22] maximum distance, a walk and

[5:23] run before an offset is

[5:25] required. Each offset must be

[5:26] at least a certain death based

[5:29] on the building's height. Off

[5:30] said let's run a minimum

[5:31] length along the facade based

[5:34] on the total facade length.

[5:35] These requirements are adopted

[5:36] by the city to help prevent

[5:38] overly monolithic commercial

[5:40] structures and to reinforce

[5:40] appealing building designed

[5:46] for the community. This

[5:46] elevation provided by the

[5:48] applicant shows the codes

[5:49] required offset depth at the

[5:49] top and the proposed depth at

[5:53] the bottom. The building needs

[5:54] the spacing in length

[5:54] standards, but the offset

[5:58] depth is less than required.

[6:00] It's like math on this one.

[6:02] But the slide summarizes how

[6:04] the proposed showroom facade

[6:04] compares to the articulation

[6:05] standards listed in the

[6:08] ordinance. Both the maximum

[6:09] distance between offsets and

[6:10] the minimum offset length,

[6:14] comply with the code. The

[6:15] applicant provides offsets at

[6:15] the appropriate intervals and

[6:16] each off said is long enough

[6:17] to meet the required

[6:19] percentage. The only standard

[6:20] that does not comply as the

[6:23] minimum offset depth. The

[6:24] ordinance requires an offset

[6:25] death based on 15% of the

[6:27] buildings. Average height.

[6:28] Well, the proposed design

[6:31] provides a shallower depth.

[6:33] This appeal solely focuses on

[6:35] the difference in that death

[6:36] and all of the year to

[6:37] collection requirements are

[6:42] meeting their standards. Staff

[6:42] is recommending approval of

[6:44] the appeal to allow an offset

[6:45] depth of one foot, 6 inches in

[6:46] place of the required 3 foot,

[6:48] 3 inches. The project appears

[6:52] to me all other articulation

[6:52] standards and the reduced

[6:53] still supports the ordinance

[6:54] is a 10 intend and the

[6:58] dealerships brand design. In

[7:00] the context of I-35 the

[7:00] shallower offset does not

[7:01] appear to affect the

[7:04] building's visual character.

[7:05] The request concerns only

[7:06] offset death and appears to

[7:06] have little to no impacts on

[7:09] the adjacent properties. I'm

[7:10] happy to answer any questions

[7:12] you MAY have for staff and I

[7:13] believe MR. Started in his

[7:14] design team are here. If you

[7:15] have any questions for them as

[7:15] well. Any questions

[7:20] commission?

[7:21] >> I'm just curious with the

[7:25] in-depth. Co that you all have

[7:26] the ordinance right now is or

[7:29] reason why they all have that

[7:30] particular deaths.

[7:31] >> I believe that peace was

[7:33] adopted back some of the

[7:34] bigger box stores were coming

[7:35] into town. And so that was

[7:36] adopted by the city council at

[7:40] that time to kind of offset.

[7:41] MAY have come in as a big,

[7:45] flat building just as an

[7:46] attempt to mix it up a little

[7:47] bit and have some visual

[7:50] variance and use those big

[7:50] buildings.

[7:51] >> With this request with the

[7:52] variants are having all

[7:57] consider re. Looking at that

[7:57] again?

[7:58] >> Yes, ma'am. Yeah. Believe

[7:59] we're looking at that as a

[8:01] part of the lbo project there.

[8:01] We're incorporating those

[8:03] building design elements into

[8:05] those to be a little bit more

[8:05] flexible with business

[8:06] partners. Okay. Thank you.

[8:09] It's me.

[8:12] >> In this kind of situation,

[8:14] does deviation does it

[8:15] attached to the project

[8:17] attached to the property.

[8:22] There's a good question. It's

[8:22] the building just to build

[8:23] Jose living. So if this got

[8:27] sold next week, this deviation

[8:28] is applied. And correct. Okay,

[8:29] Yeah, it would be just for

[8:30] what's being requested on this

[8:31] particular building for this

[8:31] particular project. Okay.

[8:37] Thank you, sir. If you In

[8:41] other words, it.

[8:41] >> Would still apply if they

[8:43] keep the building when it sold

[8:45] and if they tore down the back

[8:51] to the original correct.

[8:52] >> And just to clarify, this

[8:53] is not a zoning change in any

[8:54] way. That's correct.

[9:01] >> It's been. Thank you

[9:01] >> applicant is here would

[9:10] like to speak. They do your

[9:13] name and weather is in West

[9:14] entered resident representing

[9:17] Kaylee going prizes Bluebonnet

[9:18] swing we agree with the

[9:20] staff's position. Thank you.

[9:24] On this picture. What

[9:26] Volkswagen is requiring is

[9:27] what they call the white

[9:27] frame. That is around the

[9:29] entrance. One of them says

[9:30] Bluebonnet on at the other

[9:32] one. You see a Volkswagen

[9:36] insignia and they pre

[9:37] fabricate these. So this isn't

[9:38] our design. It's the design of

[9:39] Volkswagen nationwide saying

[9:40] here's what we want the front

[9:43] white frame to be behind the

[9:45] white frame is glass. So it

[9:46] has that depth perception

[9:47] because you're going to see

[9:48] right through into the

[9:51] building. So even though it's

[9:53] one feet, 9 inches instead the

[9:55] required 3 feet, 3 inches.

[9:56] It's going to feel like it's a

[9:57] lot deeper because it's all

[9:59] glass behind it. And so we're

[10:00] just advocating for that. The

[10:02] rest of the building, which is

[10:04] to my left up there, the gray

[10:05] portion has articulation.

[10:07] That's the shop. We really

[10:09] don't want to tear down our

[10:11] existing Jeep story. We think

[10:12] it's beautiful but full so I

[10:14] can will not let issues that I

[10:14] say. If you want the franchise

[10:15] in New Braunfels, you have to

[10:18] build this white frame. Look,

[10:19] and we're going to provide

[10:20] with you. It's not our

[10:22] architect to design. Did its

[10:23] pulse wagon. They're

[10:24] corporation saying this is

[10:25] what it has to be. So that's

[10:27] when we come to this space. Be

[10:30] happy to answer any questions.

[10:34] Commissioners, any questions?

[10:34] >> What's the timeline on this

[10:40] project?

[10:41] >> Well, we're just waiting

[10:42] for see permitting right we're

[10:44] all so it ready for us to go

[10:46] and they take We're ready to

[10:50] go. Okay. Yeah.

[10:53] >> Just as the comment seems

[10:54] like like you pointing out

[10:55] that the glass next

[10:57] articulation. The reason for

[11:00] that articulation kind of

[11:01] knowledge void because you've

[11:05] got plenty of. Break up in

[11:06] Last night and the design

[11:20] itself.

[11:25] Yet not to buy to be

[11:28] the top on. I don't know,

[11:29] Sean, if he's the architect so

[11:30] he can tell you that my

[11:36] expectation is it's that Good

[11:36] evening. My name shall well as

[11:38] with backing architecture, I

[11:40] do resident Braunfels.

[11:43] >> What you see the top

[11:44] elevation there. The shop

[11:45] side. The great piece with the

[11:46] couple bought about that's

[11:49] what that will be. But then

[11:50] the showroom piece on the

[11:51] bottom with the green will be

[11:52] is what we're proposing for

[11:53] the show. So it kind of going

[11:57] to be competition. Both that

[11:57] makes.

[11:58] >> So no articulation on the

[12:00] gray Raj portion saying I'm

[12:05] sorry. Which recommending is

[12:09] that long. Gray area does not

[12:09] have articulation.

[12:11] >> No, we are going to add

[12:11] articulation to the long gray

[12:13] area as a shoal in the top. O

[12:19] ur. We yes. You want to

[12:24] clarify what?

[12:24] >> Yeah. As I'm hearing it

[12:25] sounds like when we made this

[12:29] exhibit to articulate does.

[12:31] Horizontal articulation,

[12:31] perhaps they got a little

[12:32] mixed in these 2 exhibits. But

[12:34] what I'm hearing is that the

[12:37] gray portion of top reflects

[12:37] accurately and the white

[12:38] portion on the bottom reflects

[12:49] accurately. That's great.

[12:51] >> He that this is a public

[12:52] hearing. Anyone late to come

[12:58] forward and speak for anyone

[12:59] like to come forward and

[13:03] speaking in says? Seeing none.

[13:03] We'll close the public airing

[13:05] commissioners. Any discussion

[13:10] or

[13:10] >> I make a motion to approve

[13:15] second. Motion and second.

[13:16] >> All in favor. Aye. All

[13:28] opposed. Motion carries.

[13:31] >> It's up to 6 dash, 2, 5, 6,

[13:32] Public hearing and

[13:36] recommendation to City Council

[13:36] requested by communities are

[13:39] operating limited partnership.

[13:41] On behalf of sons, Silver Star

[13:45] llc. The be a son retreats,

[13:49] Texas Hill country to rezone

[13:52] approximately 11.4, 4 acres.

[13:55] One of the Yogi Bear

[13:56] Jellystone Park Block one lot

[14:01] too. From c 3 commercial

[14:03] district, 2 c 3 commercial

[14:06] district special use overlay

[14:08] to allow manufactured homes

[14:10] currently utterance that one

[14:15] for one Mary the

[14:17] >> Good evening, chair and

[14:17] commissioners, Mary level with

[14:20] neighborhood in community

[14:21] planning the subject. Property

[14:24] consists of approximately 11.4

[14:25] 4 acres located along the east

[14:29] side of Wrigley Road, roughly

[14:29] one quarter mile from the

[14:36] interstate. Surrounding zoning

[14:38] districts include apd him to a

[14:42] mu bc 3 c one bn are too. And

[14:43] that's a mixture of commercial

[14:46] industrial and agricultural

[14:47] development. And it also has a

[14:48] mixture of residential

[14:50] commercial and undeveloped

[14:52] parcels for the land uses that

[14:54] are surrounding it. The

[14:55] current use of the property is

[14:57] an rv park manufactured homes

[15:02] were. Previously allowed with

[15:07] nbc 3 district and until 2012

[15:09] when an amendment code

[15:10] amendment removed.

[15:11] >> The allowance of

[15:14] manufactured homes from to see

[15:16] 3 district earlier this year

[15:16] when the applicant was in the

[15:19] process of permitting and

[15:21] locating the 10, 10 new mobile

[15:22] homes. Excuse me, manufactured

[15:26] homes on the lot. City staff

[15:27] notified the applicant that

[15:28] the men you've actually homes

[15:33] were not allowed anymore. And

[15:34] they have lost their non

[15:37] conformed legal nonconforming

[15:38] use because the previous units

[15:41] were removed. And it had been

[15:46] longer than 12 months. To

[15:47] retain the units and proceed

[15:48] with permitting. The applicant

[15:51] is now seeking a rezoning to

[15:56] see 3 s up with a special use

[15:57] overlay to allow manufactured

[15:58] homes on the property which

[15:59] would maintain the uses

[16:00] currently allowed under the

[16:05] Sea. 3 zoning and also at that

[16:06] one use of manufactured homes

[16:10] as an additional approved use.

[16:13] Approval of this rezoning

[16:14] request would legalize the

[16:15] manufactured homes that have

[16:18] been recently placed on the

[16:19] property and allow their

[16:22] continued permitting. A denial

[16:23] of the request would require

[16:23] the removal of the

[16:28] manufactured homes. The

[16:29] request would not be

[16:31] consistent with following

[16:35] actions of Envision New

[16:36] Braunfels Action. 1.5, which

[16:38] is promote economic centers by

[16:41] ensuring adequate parking for

[16:44] people visiting businesses,

[16:46] restaurants and shops action.

[16:47] 1.8 is to concentrate future

[16:49] investment in industry and

[16:53] employment centers along the

[16:54] I-35 corridor and action. 1.1

[16:58] 1, which is you know, update

[16:59] our policy in codes to achieve

[17:01] development patterns of this

[17:05] plant. Goal of plan and also

[17:06] balance commercial centers

[17:10] with stable neighborhoods. On

[17:11] the other hand, the request

[17:12] would be consistent with many

[17:16] of the housing supportive

[17:17] actions in Envision New

[17:18] Braunfels. And I've listen up.

[17:26] You here on this on the slide.

[17:30] Staff recommends denial

[17:31] envision New Braunfels

[17:33] emphasize the emphasizes

[17:34] preserving commercial uses

[17:35] within the c 3 zoning District

[17:37] and commission commercial

[17:39] corridors. If the commission

[17:40] is inclined to approve the

[17:43] rezoning staff does recommend

[17:44] a few conditions that are in

[17:46] the staff report. Couldn't

[17:49] read them here. A maximum of

[17:50] 10 manufactured homes allowed

[17:52] on the property, a screening

[17:53] would be required along any

[17:57] street frontage. And all homes

[17:58] must comply with Appendix b,

[17:59] which it are some code

[18:00] regulations and development

[18:02] standards for I'm a veteran

[18:07] home communities. Public note

[18:09] of notification included

[18:11] mailing notices to 19 property

[18:12] owners and staff received 3

[18:15] responses and paper which

[18:16] comprised 58% of the

[18:17] notification area. And there

[18:21] were of these response carts,

[18:24] it back in opposition. A super

[18:26] majority vote is not required

[18:28] for approval. A petition was

[18:29] email to staff after the

[18:32] agenda was posted that did not

[18:35] have any property owners

[18:36] addresses. Therefore, it was

[18:36] unclear if any of those

[18:38] individual signing or

[18:40] digitally signing that

[18:42] petition. We're within this

[18:42] 200 that notification buffer

[18:46] area. Thus in staff's

[18:47] presentation. And I'm here to

[18:49] answer any questions you MAY

[18:50] have for staff and the

[18:51] applicant is here, too. Make a

[18:55] presentation. I got a quick

[18:55] question.

[18:59] >> When your notification that

[19:01] you see 2 of 5, they were they

[19:02] were in favor of this tomb,

[19:04] those property. It is the

[19:05] applicant's, the owner of the

[19:10] property. Thank you.

[19:12] >> What was the notification

[19:13] that you received without the

[19:17] addresses and names of people?

[19:18] >> It was e-mailed to the

[19:19] planning commissioners. And I

[19:23] have a copy of it here. It's

[19:25] it's a Something called a jot

[19:27] for and maybe something that

[19:28] gets sent out to various email

[19:28] addresses. And then if

[19:31] somebody wants to. Acknowledge

[19:35] there, you know, decision they

[19:38] respond and it just has names

[19:39] and emails.

[19:41] >> With that sent and he was

[19:46] sent to Yes, in email. But it

[19:48] wasn't written from anybody It

[19:54] has p a it has names on it. I

[19:57] think I counted about 101 or 2

[19:57] names in opposition of it in

[20:01] opposition.

[20:02] >> So I think you names and

[20:04] emails on there. But he said

[20:05] there was no physical address.

[20:07] We can verify that they within

[20:08] the notification area. That is

[20:10] correct. Commissioner about

[20:15] But So if was a neighborhood

[20:16] behind the properties time

[20:16] Dolly and Douglas Fir came

[20:17] from there. But they recite a

[20:19] notation to correct.

[20:21] >> Some of them were there are

[20:22] some properties that receive

[20:23] notification cards in the

[20:24] mail. But none of those were

[20:29] returned.

[20:31] >> There's obviously not 100

[20:32] people in the notification

[20:33] area. So it stands to reason

[20:37] they can consider that.

[20:39] Weather situation purposes

[20:40] that they're not in nation,

[20:41] right? For the most part. I

[20:42] just can't confirm that. It's

[20:43] the neighborhoods that are

[20:46] shown on this map.

[20:48] >> I haven't really, but we

[20:49] didn't use a but we do need to

[20:50] consider. We do need to

[20:51] consider could possibly come

[20:54] from the neighborhood behind

[20:54] absent that we have to respect

[20:56] that. So 2 things, one, if you

[20:58] read at the very last page of

[20:59] that petition that was sent,

[21:00] there are comments from the

[21:02] signers on there. A lot of

[21:03] them reference the name of the

[21:05] neighborhood that they are

[21:06] from every day. And that's

[21:08] yes, that immediate area. So

[21:09] some of them, at least in

[21:11] their comments does at least

[21:13] see it. It's Highland Group

[21:14] anecdotally say that they're

[21:16] from there. But very if you

[21:17] could, could you just 4 maybe

[21:18] even just me personally, he

[21:20] back up and kind of just maybe

[21:21] try to best of your knowledge.

[21:24] Explain why city removed the

[21:25] manufactured homes from c 3.

[21:27] And what was the purpose for

[21:27] that?

[21:28] >> That occurred in 2 2020 12.

[21:31] And I don't know if anybody

[21:32] here might have

[21:36] >> exactly. That's

[21:37] >> I don't think any of us

[21:40] were here at that My

[21:41] assumption one just or I guess

[21:44] would be that and c 3 is a

[21:47] commercial district. It was

[21:49] expected that commercial use

[21:50] was was the preferred

[21:51] development height in that in

[21:55] that district?

[21:56] >> It MAY have coincided with

[21:58] a new district that only

[21:59] allowed manufactured homes as

[22:02] well. So maybe they were. The

[22:05] intent was to remove it from

[22:05] other zoning districts in just

[22:10] allow them in a certain.

[22:11] >> There MAY have been some

[22:15] changes in state law time. And

[22:18] eventually brings the

[22:21] >> Yeah, I apologize. I I

[22:25] isn't this a It is an rv park.

[22:27] It's just an park. It's not a

[22:31] jelly resort. I will let the

[22:32] applicant MAY be till the

[22:35] history of what type of uses.

[22:40] >> They've had in the past.

[22:41] Any other questions? I So how

[22:43] many current manufactured

[22:43] homes are on the property

[22:47] right now There's 10.

[22:48] >> There's And how much land

[22:49] is that incorporate in their

[22:53] property? You know?

[22:54] >> I would say that's almost

[22:59] 12 acres. Less than an acre.

[23:04] >> Were they put on without?

[23:06] Where they put on recently,

[23:08] assuming that could use Yes,

[23:09] it was been there for a while.

[23:12] Those all were removed.

[23:14] >> So I think there was a

[23:15] disconnect in it was difficult

[23:17] for the applicant to

[23:17] understand when their legal

[23:19] nonconforming use was going.

[23:24] >> going to end and when they

[23:26] purchase these units to

[23:28] replace it took about a period

[23:29] of time and all that the

[23:30] applicant speak to that that

[23:34] MAY have been. But they're as

[23:34] a player nonconforming. They

[23:37] weren't place there.

[23:39] >> With approval of the city.

[23:43] There are some that. Through

[23:44] the permitting process that's

[23:49] very hard find out the date of

[23:50] illegal not come for me

[23:51] because we would have had to

[23:52] have that information when

[23:54] they were removed. And so when

[23:59] the applicant. A pursuit

[24:01] permitting, there were a

[24:02] couple, maybe 2 or 3 that were

[24:07] permitted at a later date,

[24:10] staff was notified that these

[24:11] were removed in. They lost

[24:13] their legal non-conforming

[24:16] status. So we had to kind of

[24:18] backtrack you know, notify the

[24:21] applicant in writing that the

[24:22] previous permits that were

[24:23] issued were issued

[24:26] incorrectly. And that's how we

[24:28] are here today.

[24:29] >> Thanks to the permits were

[24:33] issued. There permits issued.

[24:34] >> There were permits issued,

[24:35] but there's a revocation from

[24:39] the building official.

[24:40] >> That once it came to light

[24:41] that they lost their legal

[24:43] non-conforming status.

[24:47] >> Permits for sot initiated.

[24:48] Prior to these being placed up

[24:51] there.

[24:51] >> I don't know the timing of

[24:56] the locating that.

[24:59] >> Is manufactured housing

[25:00] allowed under any zoning right

[25:01] now in our city of aside from

[25:04] as up obviously.

[25:07] >> believe it's allowed in the

[25:07] b zones.

[25:08] >> Yes, it's it's a lot of

[25:10] multiple districts. I don't no

[25:11] those off of you know, they

[25:18] alone.

[25:18] >> Manufactured homes on the

[25:19] property right now. Yes, there

[25:23] is. There's 10 Okay.

[25:23] >> And are you are where's the

[25:25] city aware of any new laws

[25:26] coming from that you might

[25:29] later that would. Us to deny

[25:32] this. Or prohibit us from

[25:35] denying manufactured. I just

[25:44] want make sure. Happens.

[25:47] >> To that all 10 permanent.

[25:50] >> There were only 3 that I

[25:50] believe were issued permits

[25:53] that were later revoked by the

[25:54] building building official.

[25:55] They would have to move all

[26:00] 10. They don't have a pathway

[26:01] to have been permitted as

[26:14] today. I guess maybe.

[26:14] >> I mean, it obviously has

[26:15] any questions. But here in the

[26:17] applicants. Nothing would be

[26:20] helpful, too.

[26:21] >> Yes, I'll go ahead and call

[26:29] them right now.

[26:30] >> You state your name and

[26:34] with your risen are non

[26:35] >> My name is Jamie. And here

[26:37] I am not a resident of New

[26:38] Braunfels and this has been

[26:39] currently with me. She is also

[26:40] not a resident New Braunfels

[26:43] representatives of the

[26:44] community. I do live in San

[26:44] Antonio, some at least semi

[26:48] close by Good Evening Chair

[26:48] Council, thank you for your

[26:52] time this evening. We want to

[26:52] discuss our plan to replace

[26:53] manufactured homes. It's under

[26:57] trees. Texas Hill Country. Our

[26:57] intent for the parcel is not

[26:58] to change anything in the

[27:01] approximate 11 acre parcel,

[27:01] rather, just replace

[27:02] manufactured homes that were

[27:04] previously on the property. At

[27:05] this time, we have no plans to

[27:06] add any new development that

[27:08] was not previously

[27:09] established. Our goal is just

[27:10] to restore previous used the

[27:14] sites. As a real estate

[27:14] investment trust. We will

[27:15] maintain ownership of the land

[27:16] regardless of the individual

[27:18] homes located on the property.

[27:19] Our preferred approach is to

[27:21] enter these homes into our

[27:22] home rental program that

[27:23] provides a quality and

[27:25] affordable living space while

[27:25] maintaining consistent

[27:27] ownership and management of

[27:28] the property are home. Rental

[27:30] program includes a formal

[27:31] application and screening

[27:33] process for prospective

[27:34] occupants. This allows us to

[27:35] evaluate applicants ensure

[27:38] that the homes are occupied by

[27:38] qualified individuals meters.

[27:42] That was rental requirements.

[27:43] We also performed annual

[27:45] inspections to ensure units

[27:46] are maintained and all

[27:47] property standards are met.

[27:48] Ultimately, our goal is to

[27:49] responsibly maintain the

[27:50] property, preserve its

[27:50] character, replace homes

[27:52] without introducing a new or

[27:52] substantial different used to

[27:56] the parcel. So I guess like

[27:58] part of the what I would say,

[27:59] part of the misconception

[28:00] about this is that we want to

[28:01] change the entire 11 acre

[28:04] parcel. We do not. If you look

[28:05] at the photo that we have,

[28:08] this is an old photo and its

[28:09] right off the second street

[28:10] there. There's like 10 sites

[28:11] right there to the right of

[28:14] the Second Street. The mh

[28:15] homes were there in the past.

[28:16] We just want to we're put. We

[28:17] put them back, right? It just

[28:19] took a little bit longer than

[28:21] right there. Thank you for

[28:22] ever We took a little bit

[28:24] longer than we originally had

[28:25] planned or that we knew about

[28:28] a year not conforming use. So

[28:30] we're not trying to take

[28:32] everything out and turn the rv

[28:33] park into a manufactured

[28:35] housing community. We just

[28:36] want to provide a different

[28:36] rental option for our guests

[28:43] to come. Enjoy our resort. So

[28:46] Sun is a company, I think is a

[28:47] good. It's important to talk

[28:47] about his U.S. As a company.

[28:50] We been around since 1975, you

[28:51] know, went New York Stock

[28:55] Exchange public in 1993. If

[28:56] 450 best-in-class properties,

[28:57] we pride ourselves on being

[28:58] the nation's premier owner and

[28:58] operator of manufactured

[29:01] housing, an rv and rv resorts.

[29:05] You know, we have 16 in Texas,

[29:07] 12 rv Resorts 12 rv resort

[29:08] sudden 16 manufactured housing

[29:09] communities with to a New

[29:11] Braunfels. So we do have a

[29:12] effective housing community.

[29:12] That's about 2 miles north of

[29:15] the subject. Property come

[29:17] out, farms and we bought

[29:18] Senator East country of

[29:20] mentioned Jellystone. It was

[29:20] jellystone in the past and

[29:23] sons Silver Star to a point

[29:24] we've gone through some

[29:25] changes corporate management

[29:26] re-branding. So that's what

[29:28] all the da's un names come

[29:29] from. But we purchased it in

[29:34] FEBRUARY 2016 285 sites and 52

[29:35] vacation rentals. The family

[29:37] focus property with indoor

[29:38] outdoor pools, volleyball

[29:39] courts, extensive events and

[29:41] activities that we want to,

[29:41] you know, should provide a

[29:44] good time for our guests.

[29:45] We're also committed to local

[29:46] outreach and giving back. So

[29:49] we host annual event with Camp

[29:51] Quality usa can't quality

[29:53] provides outdoor hospitality

[29:55] camping for, you know,

[29:56] families that are impacted by

[29:57] children with cancer. So we

[29:58] provide once it once a year on

[30:01] Thanksgiving. We have a

[30:03] weekend unity with our son

[30:04] Unity program which is are

[30:05] giving back program that we

[30:07] invite these families to come

[30:09] enjoy are camped out for free

[30:11] in it sits next weekend. It's

[30:11] really good for the soul of

[30:15] been to a couple of them. So

[30:16] we want to go through our

[30:17] timeline a little bit. You

[30:18] know, I know that was

[30:18] something that was just

[30:22] brought up. In DECEMBER. 25 we

[30:24] had a meeting with city

[30:25] representatives presented our

[30:26] plan to replace the

[30:26] manufactured housing,

[30:27] manufactured homes are removed

[30:30] from the property. We did not

[30:31] order the homes until after we

[30:34] had that meeting. Right? So we

[30:35] thought there were no concerns

[30:39] raised in that meeting we were

[30:40] ok to order them because we're

[30:43] replacing right. There was I

[30:44] think some representatives

[30:46] from net was at the and the

[30:47] you in New Braunfels utilities

[30:49] on the call. It was a team's

[30:54] call. Sorry, New Braunfels How

[30:55] General contractor who is in

[30:57] New Braunfels resident Adam

[30:59] Hatch and then his form and

[31:00] one couple representatives

[31:01] from signed the manager

[31:04] Michelle Guajardo Huzzah New

[31:05] Braunfels resident and The

[31:08] couple people from the city. I

[31:09] don't know the last name

[31:12] summer. Amanda were on the

[31:13] call and we were we were told

[31:14] that meeting that as long as

[31:16] we're replacing units, it was

[31:17] ok. So that was why we went

[31:19] ahead and ordered In APRIL.

[31:23] The homes began to arrive. We

[31:25] got our first permits and I

[31:26] think as mentioned, we got 3

[31:27] permits. One on MAY 28th one

[31:28] on JUNE 4th and one on JUNE

[31:31] 24th and then on JULY, the

[31:32] permits revoked while we had

[31:36] the other 7 in for review.

[31:37] Right? So we were we were not

[31:38] doing anything with the other

[31:38] 3 were waiting for the permits

[31:41] to come in. We also had 4

[31:44] applications on these already.

[31:45] So we had to guess that we

[31:46] were just waiting for the

[31:47] final construction to be

[31:48] completed, but we are ready to

[31:48] move into these homes before

[31:51] we got the revocation. We 4

[31:52] locations to are denied to are

[31:56] approved. So that we feel this

[31:57] was due to a timing

[31:58] technicality and not a

[31:58] substantial violation. We

[32:00] would have been within one

[32:01] year, we would have been fine.

[32:02] We would still had a

[32:02] non-conforming use for one. We

[32:07] remove them. This is the site

[32:08] plan. So this these time that

[32:10] we have here on the site's up

[32:14] in the front of the park. You

[32:15] know, that's the far end of

[32:15] the park away from the

[32:17] neighboring community in the

[32:19] back. It's right off the road.

[32:20] I think you said roughly sort

[32:21] of sat around 100 times today,

[32:23] but Rocky Road right off the

[32:24] front there. And then this is

[32:26] the floor plan and all this

[32:27] was presented at that meeting

[32:31] in DECEMBER. So very clearly

[32:32] it's a manufacturer House size

[32:36] in apartment size. We have

[32:37] some pictures. Obviously we've

[32:37] got some work to do. We

[32:38] stopped working as to when we

[32:41] got the revocation for her.

[32:42] The letter we stop that we've

[32:43] got landscaping work that will

[32:44] go in there and then finishing

[32:46] touch up. He says to to these

[32:50] homes. So there fantastic

[32:52] looking one of the things that

[32:53] we love about these homes

[32:54] compared to our views as we

[32:55] have control over the look at

[32:56] right? Like we maintain the

[32:57] standards, we maintain the

[32:59] curb appeal the guest pulls in

[33:00] with an rv. It could look 10

[33:05] times worse than this. In

[33:07] conclusion like our thought

[33:08] process here is is really we

[33:08] just want to replace what we

[33:11] have these 10. We're not

[33:11] looking to change our

[33:12] business. We're not looking to

[33:14] change the entire parcel. We

[33:15] just want to be able to

[33:17] replace the time that we have

[33:18] and keep you and utilize that

[33:19] and that we have already put

[33:20] in. Thank you guys for your

[33:25] time. Have a question.

[33:26] >> So you have the rv's which

[33:29] are short-term rentals, people

[33:31] who come in to enjoy the

[33:32] resort.

[33:32] >> Yeah, I mean, it's of x,

[33:33] right? We have people that

[33:34] like we have winter Texans to

[33:37] come down and stay long term.

[33:38] We have people that are

[33:40] short-term campers weekend

[33:41] week. It's a full max, but

[33:43] it's not long-term permanent

[33:45] rentals, not long-term

[33:45] permanent rentals. I'd say we

[33:46] don't have any long-term

[33:47] permanent rentals and then.

[33:51] >> Next to that, are these.

[33:52] Manufactured homes which are

[33:55] long-term meant to be

[33:56] long-term permanent rentals?

[33:59] Well, I think the way that we

[34:00] would address that is say we

[34:00] are a thought process is that

[34:04] their monthly?

[34:04] >> Right in their monthly

[34:05] rentals, right? You could rent

[34:06] it for a month. You could rent

[34:08] defer to our preference would

[34:10] be that are out housing.

[34:14] People move into Technically,

[34:14] yes, okay. And then on the

[34:15] other side of that.

[34:19] >> Is the actual resort. In

[34:20] the rv's, correct between the

[34:24] rv's in the resort. Perez, you

[34:25] are jealous. Know. A lot of

[34:27] jelly stone longer sunrun

[34:29] treats is our summer and a

[34:32] cable says Joe Yeah. We like

[34:34] be often used. Yeah, that's

[34:35] that's kind of what I was

[34:36] trying to say. This property

[34:37] has been I mean, we bought it

[34:38] in 2016. I think that it had

[34:39] to owners prior to that and it

[34:42] was a jellystone at one point.

[34:44] And so we've rebranded it to

[34:45] arson retreats model, which is

[34:48] a more of like the community

[34:50] rv park that we want to, you

[34:51] know, bring people together to

[34:51] enjoy the outdoor space, least

[34:56] owns the name of the Yeah.

[34:58] just led yes because it was at

[35:00] one time a But it is a route

[35:04] resort area on far side of

[35:04] the.

[35:05] >> So we've got rv's in these

[35:06] manufactured homes and then at

[35:09] a resort area and you have

[35:11] cabins on that resort redo.

[35:11] There are 52. And this is the

[35:15] way that the park.

[35:15] >> Did present itself and

[35:16] operate for many years. Again,

[35:17] there were manufactured homes

[35:20] there. This is not new.

[35:20] >> And in our in our industry,

[35:24] we have several communities

[35:25] that we own that are hybrid.

[35:26] That's what we consider

[35:27] hybrids that work in the rv

[35:32] and mh space. It's not

[35:33] uncommon that are re used to

[35:36] have. And short like weekend

[35:36] cabins.

[35:37] >> Yeah. For the most part, I

[35:37] would say that we have some

[35:38] people. It's a week to 10

[35:40] days, ok, what their vacation

[35:45] is, what plans? Meant to be a

[35:46] vacation And I could clarify.

[35:47] Commissioner, quick, do you

[35:48] have yearlong residents live

[35:52] in these? And these cabins

[35:53] where manufactured homes

[35:54] you're talking about, is there

[35:56] anybody that lives there?

[35:58] >> For 12 months for talk

[35:59] continues month. We don't have

[36:01] anybody in the manufactured

[36:02] homes. Now there. Yeah. We

[36:05] want talk about the future

[36:06] leasing releasing for long. If

[36:06] I want to come there, lived

[36:09] there for 12 months.

[36:10] >> Yeah, I mean, I think that

[36:12] was are give me a year That

[36:14] was our original plan, right?

[36:15] Where we're at the point right

[36:16] now where we're want to defer

[36:17] to you guys a little bit and

[36:20] and have have like a a

[36:22] discussion about our plan

[36:23] originally was to put them in

[36:25] what we call it a home rental

[36:27] program where they are

[36:31] essentially on we call because

[36:32] placement agreement because it

[36:33] they pay monthly unpaid

[36:37] electric bill.

[36:39] >> What is purpose? And those

[36:42] homes cause? Right now you are

[36:48] running a resort. Business

[36:49] model. Yeah. I mean, it sounds

[36:51] like you're kind of. Wanting

[36:52] to switch into getting into

[36:57] the residential.

[36:58] >> I wouldn't say that we're

[36:59] trying to switch and get into

[37:00] a residential development. I

[37:01] think for us it's about

[37:05] providing. Options for our

[37:06] guests, We have guessed that

[37:07] want to stay for a week. We

[37:08] have guessed that love this

[37:09] area and they want to live

[37:10] here and be here all the time.

[37:11] And we want to be able to

[37:12] provide both of those options

[37:18] to our guests. It's a it's

[37:19] big, many said it's a hybrid.

[37:20] This kind of hybrid property,

[37:22] right leg. Understood. Yeah.

[37:23] No

[37:26] >> Yeah. I mean, that's that's

[37:26] that's for us. It's it's about

[37:27] creating options and keeping,

[37:28] you know, business options

[37:28] open as well as what's the

[37:31] best thing for.

[37:32] >> What we feel, the guests

[37:32] for the for the area and for

[37:35] for business as well.

[37:36] >> So how long have the 10

[37:39] manufactured homes been on

[37:39] there?

[37:41] >> I think that it was they

[37:41] started getting delivered in

[37:42] APRIL. And the last one I

[37:43] think was delivered in

[37:47] Mid-JUNE before that as far as

[37:48] they were on their before. We

[37:51] bought the property in 2016.

[37:52] >> So there's been 10 minute

[37:54] fractured homes on the

[37:54] property.

[37:59] >> well, know how they They

[38:00] were removed, right? And like

[38:00] that's what this whole issue

[38:02] comes down to an r and as we

[38:03] are without with would not

[38:04] within that one year.

[38:05] Nonconforming space.

[38:06] >> But they had been there

[38:07] since before summer of the

[38:10] property in 2016.

[38:13] >> So they grandfathered

[38:14] grandfathered in.

[38:15] >> That is our understanding.

[38:16] Yes, essentially nonconforming

[38:18] among 4 news.

[38:19] >> So do you all know how long

[38:20] they've been all know how long

[38:23] they've been on this property.

[38:25] >> We don't have that

[38:26] information. Looked at aerials

[38:27] and I think they were as far

[38:30] back as we could look in their

[38:31] early 2, thousands. So they've

[38:33] been on there, at least I

[38:34] would say at least 20 years

[38:36] when we have paperwork from,

[38:36] we bought the property when

[38:38] that we have 3 addresses. One,

[38:40] 31 one, 41 1.51 and one. 41

[38:43] was called like Silver Star Mh

[38:46] Park and one 31 was one. 51

[38:47] were jellystone are Silver

[38:50] star or whatever. The middle.

[38:50] The middle parcel was an mh

[38:54] park at one point.

[38:57] >> So just to since they were

[38:58] grandfathered and it's because

[38:58] they remove them because they

[38:59] removed them for longer than

[39:01] one year. Yes. And now they

[39:05] have to start over. They don't

[39:06] have to start over is just

[39:09] there and they're not allowed

[39:12] use in in zoning banks. And so

[39:12] we don't approve this. It all

[39:16] just goes back to see 3. It is

[39:18] currently see 3 right

[39:19] continue. Yes, okay. So if

[39:19] it's not approved to react to

[39:22] remove the units we have about

[39:23] 1.2 million dollar investment

[39:27] in them right now. So you have

[39:28] 3 that a permanent that you

[39:31] brought in 7 more without

[39:32] permits.

[39:33] >> They were the all the

[39:33] permits were submitted at that

[39:37] point. In end, it said it's a

[39:38] hard balance when you do that

[39:40] because we have to order the

[39:41] units with the manufacturer.

[39:42] They have to produce them. We

[39:44] wait for delivery.

[39:46] >> You typically we can't

[39:47] permit them until they're

[39:47] delivered because we don't get

[39:49] a vin number are a number at

[39:50] all until they're delivered

[39:53] property.

[39:56] >> So you can't even get them

[39:57] from a to b for no. And I

[39:57] mean, that's you could have

[40:02] done was get this. The

[40:02] preconstruction meeting. And

[40:03] that's why what we thought was

[40:04] ok and that's why we want to

[40:06] order.

[40:07] >> So you're saying you met

[40:10] with the city? Everything's

[40:11] fine. What made it? One 2 men

[40:13] dollar investment and then but

[40:13] they're in there and then you

[40:15] get back no, no, never mind.

[40:15] They're no longer in

[40:20] conformance.

[40:21] >> Did you know about the year

[40:23] lapse time? We didn't know

[40:23] until we met with the city

[40:27] after they were revoked.

[40:28] >> Do we have an exact date on

[40:28] when they were because

[40:33] that's really the point right

[40:33] is it's not about historical

[40:35] use, but in 2012, the right

[40:36] for manufactured was removed

[40:40] from c 3. And so when

[40:40] something's removed its law,

[40:43] you have 12 months to do any

[40:44] type of stuff keep your

[40:47] conforming. So I mean, that's

[40:50] that was there beforehand

[40:53] before it was purchased. So

[40:54] the real is just when were

[40:56] they removed? And then that is

[40:57] the time frame to understand

[40:59] if it was 12 months or not.

[41:01] >> I think it was about it was

[41:03] within the year that they do

[41:04] the pre-development meeting

[41:05] and I has to beat it was

[41:07] around MARCH. So it they would

[41:11] you know, place the units by

[41:11] MARCH 2026, but looks like

[41:17] they missed it about a month

[41:18] or too, got just what it is to

[41:19] me from what I gathered and

[41:23] then hearing from you all.

[41:25] >> y'all ordered the new ones

[41:26] within the 12 time period.

[41:27] They were. They were ordered

[41:28] in JANUARY after the

[41:33] preconstruction meeting.

[41:34] >> And how many Dion have on

[41:38] the property? Now? We have 10.

[41:39] So they're all yelton were

[41:40] delivered by think like said,

[41:41] I think it was mid JUNE or

[41:45] early JULY. The last one came

[41:45] in.

[41:45] >> I'm new to this as well. I

[41:46] think it's I just moved to San

[41:49] Antonio in JULY. So the role.

[41:50] And so this might be a

[41:52] question for staff. But in

[41:55] this instance where they can

[41:56] with the manufactured home. I

[41:57] know with park models

[41:59] and staff as well used to have

[42:00] a vin number. And so you don't

[42:00] get that until you get the

[42:03] actual delivery of it.

[42:04] >> And what I'm hearing is

[42:05] that the process is that's

[42:05] when you can actually come to

[42:06] the city staff and permanent.

[42:10] Is there any? What the right

[42:13] word of the allowance for the

[42:15] fact that given the certain

[42:16] model the orders have to

[42:17] happen before that. So the

[42:19] order placement was in there

[42:20] nonconforming use. But then

[42:21] the permit falls outside of

[42:23] it. Because if that's the

[42:24] case, then they would have to

[42:27] order it like immediately and

[42:27] hope that they get a cause

[42:28] that could be completely out

[42:30] of their hands. On the

[42:31] delivery date. Sony's park

[42:33] models get super delayed. And

[42:34] if delayed a couple months

[42:35] than they might MISS Their

[42:36] permit window. So I guess

[42:40] that's really that crux of it.

[42:41] >> It ultimately up to the

[42:45] building official revoke the

[42:46] permits and it was decided

[42:48] that order for them to

[42:49] continue with the use, that

[42:50] they would have to go through

[42:50] rezoning.

[42:55] >> Okay. These 10 that you get

[42:55] there are ready. Are you

[42:56] planning on putting more out

[43:00] there if this passes? We had

[43:01] originally planned to replace

[43:02] another 10 in a different

[43:03] area. But we think at this

[43:03] point we're just going to

[43:08] stick to the Thank you.

[43:12] Clarify Zoning request. If

[43:12] it's approved.

[43:17] >> approved for all 11 point,

[43:18] whatever acres.

[43:20] >> a special use permit

[43:21] request so there can be

[43:21] conditions placed on the

[43:23] special use permit request.

[43:27] But right now as it stands.

[43:30] >> If it were proved they

[43:32] could put manufactured homes

[43:33] all over almost 12 acres.

[43:35] There were no conditions

[43:37] placed unless we put a

[43:39] condition for a limited to

[43:40] what's already now. Well and

[43:42] again, I think Jamie and I are

[43:42] here to say we heard Mary say

[43:45] that at the end of her

[43:46] presentation and at this

[43:48] point, we want to at least use

[43:49] those 10 that were delivered

[43:50] because we have a 1.2 million

[43:53] dollar investment in those.

[43:54] >> We are fine with absolutely

[43:55] stopping there looking at

[43:57] those conditions that were

[43:58] placed were happy with any

[43:59] riders that come to So you can

[44:00] just stick it and be done with

[44:04] it.

[44:09] >> For why given the confusion

[44:14] >> are recommending denial?

[44:16] >> So I would I would say, you

[44:22] know, our our recommendation,

[44:24] >> It sometimes tough for

[44:26] staff to make the to come down

[44:27] on one side or another. And

[44:28] this is one of those instances

[44:31] where it was not a.

[44:32] >> You know, is not black or

[44:37] white. Circumstance. So and in

[44:39] fact, that's why the report

[44:42] was crafted. The wind was too

[44:42] sort of balance that there

[44:47] are. Actions the comprehensive

[44:49] plan that that support the

[44:56] request. Are reviewing our

[45:02] consideration with the These

[45:03] residential products being

[45:07] removed from the zoning code.

[45:09] We felt that that was the

[45:10] direction that, you know, the

[45:15] city was. In the adoption of

[45:16] of those changes to the code

[45:19] that that the city was. In

[45:25] favor of that. That position.

[45:26] >> I think to suggest that we

[45:27] open up the public hearing and

[45:30] if we need to representatives

[45:33] come back, we come back. I

[45:36] think public hearing and I

[45:36] thank you here for many

[45:37] citizens are here to talk

[45:40] about it. It will open a

[45:41] public hearing for anyone that

[45:41] would like to come and speak

[45:47] regarding And we couldn't use

[45:48] a cell phone. Note here, is

[45:52] that okay?

[45:53] >> Okay. Curtis yanking I do

[45:55] live here and and Braunfels up

[45:56] in the Highland Grove area

[45:56] with one of those e-mails and

[45:57] names on that list. It's a

[46:03] real quick. It's a good

[46:03] evening. I'm speaking

[46:05] regarding special use permit

[46:07] for this. And my concern is

[46:07] not necessarily the

[46:09] manufacturing housing after

[46:10] hearing their story. I do feel

[46:14] for him a little bit, but I'm

[46:16] more worried about the

[46:18] cumulative impact of land use

[46:19] decisions on this area and the

[46:20] surrounding established

[46:21] neighborhoods and more than

[46:25] just a 200 feet. It is in the

[46:26] brothel, specifically calls

[46:28] for protecting the character

[46:29] intake, integrity and

[46:30] stability of neighborhoods and

[46:30] balance commercial centers are

[46:33] stable neighborhoods. The area

[46:34] has already experienced

[46:36] significant change, including

[46:37] MARCH homeless shelter nearby

[46:38] on the other side of the

[46:39] interstate. Now the city is

[46:41] considering allowing

[46:42] manufactured housing

[46:43] approximately 11 acres of sea,

[46:44] 3 commercial property along

[46:48] the I-35 corridor Senate

[46:49] stated his current team is

[46:51] only 10 manufactured homes,

[46:52] but the separate quest covers

[46:53] approximately 11 acres. I

[46:53] think you just kind of talked

[46:54] through there could be

[46:57] conditions on that. But that

[46:58] still raises an important

[46:59] question to the cep is

[46:59] approved. What prevents future

[47:00] expansion beyond those 10

[47:02] homes? And what is the city's

[47:03] intent based on their vision

[47:06] plan for this area? Retired

[47:07] after 31 years in the U.S.

[47:10] Army as a colonel. Chose New

[47:11] Braunfels and picked that area

[47:11] because of the residential

[47:14] rural area and what it looked

[47:16] like as I continue to watch it

[47:18] grow and watch things grow on

[47:19] the side of Mayfair and then

[47:21] things down here, it seems

[47:24] like this side of New

[47:25] Braunfels is getting homeless.

[47:26] Shelters manufactured homes

[47:28] and things like that. I'm just

[47:30] concerned that looking at the

[47:30] envision and where the

[47:33] future's going for this homes

[47:34] that are in Highland Road that

[47:36] are half a million dollars MAY

[47:36] have land value issues in the

[47:53] future. Any questions for e?

[47:59] Sorry the mic was off.

[47:59] >> Anyone else would like to

[48:02] speak. Please forward. If not,

[48:03] I will close the public

[48:05] hearing.

[48:06] >> Commissioners, I'd like to

[48:09] suggest. Hearing both sides to

[48:15] this. I think with Big. Works

[48:17] on both sides. And

[48:22] >> and the applicant's side.

[48:23] Just like to say that before

[48:27] we go any further. It suggests

[48:28] that if we were going look at

[48:28] any approval that we

[48:31] absolutely put Conditions that

[48:34] the only these thank you

[48:38] factor domes. Presented to

[48:41] commissioners, please.

[48:43] >> Someone from the city

[48:44] confirmed that vin numbers

[48:49] required. Required 2. Issue a

[48:52] permit

[48:56] >> The planning previously

[48:58] before it reconfigured in

[48:59] split into 2 to division

[49:04] departments I personally

[49:05] reviewed mobile home. They

[49:05] come, you we have all

[49:08] terminology mobile home

[49:09] permit. And it is true that

[49:13] there had to be a picture of

[49:15] the id number of that unit.

[49:18] And I recall seeing those in

[49:20] reviewing and that's before

[49:20] they're issued. So you have to

[49:26] have that.

[49:26] >> I think my biggest concern

[49:27] is because I know we lived on

[49:32] the east side. B-one got

[49:33] rezoned next. Our residential

[49:36] and Being in real estate. I

[49:38] saw the impact of that. My

[49:39] concern is if we have it,

[49:43] prove this. Kind of a lead.

[49:47] The doorway open. That if they

[49:48] were to come back in the

[49:52] future. It would be really

[49:55] hard to say, no, because

[49:57] there's already 10 on there.

[49:58] It's kind of like St ours. You

[49:58] know, once we open the door to

[50:04] that. It could lead to more.

[50:05] And seen, you know, given the

[50:05] voice of the residents all

[50:07] around it. We have to honor

[50:11] that. My heart goes out to you

[50:14] all. I hate the situation.

[50:16] Like how it all happened. I

[50:16] wish things could have been

[50:21] clear for y'all. I'm concerned

[50:22] with the big, you know, the

[50:23] future the big picture. And

[50:29] the fact that the city has.

[50:30] They're recommending denial. I

[50:31] think that's something to look

[50:35] at as well. For the strategic

[50:41] plan. And so.

[50:43] >> I think we have the image.

[50:43] And since he the letter of the

[50:45] law and the spirit of law.

[50:50] Being part month or 2

[50:52] difference between when you're

[50:54] informant win or not. And for

[50:55] months and if a delay in

[50:58] delivery appear units and you

[50:59] have that the permit of the

[51:00] unit there before you get the

[51:04] actually issue their vote

[51:07] >> yeah, I would hate to see.

[51:08] So this is this is a a small

[51:12] enough. Give.

[51:14] >> An area property that

[51:17] already had 10. You didn't. I

[51:18] think if we restricted to 10

[51:19] unit says planning staff has

[51:21] recommended. I'm not concerned

[51:24] about future this mean it.

[51:25] Future growth, Mult

[51:25] manufactured housing in this

[51:29] area. Because because of the

[51:32] restrictions of the U.S. Up.

[51:38] But do see harm. And this 1.2

[51:39] million dollars harm for any

[51:43] business on a technicality of

[51:44] a month or 2 of their on of a

[51:44] delivery date of unity. You

[51:47] have no control over. So I

[51:55] die. I'm going to vote

[51:56] approval of this with these

[51:56] restrictions that staff

[52:01] presented. Because of that. I

[52:03] think that this place where we

[52:07] can show a little grace and

[52:08] this instance My concern,

[52:10] though, is this is what's the

[52:11] future look like? And we've

[52:12] got a look down the road, its

[52:13] future. What happens when

[52:14] Winters making here?

[52:18] >> And I thinking about what

[52:19] we want. You both look like.

[52:22] 25 for 2 years from this,

[52:23] Yeah, decisions we make now.

[52:24] So PRESIDENT's there's been

[52:26] many a times over the years

[52:27] where we've done the phase

[52:28] will do it in phases phase 2

[52:28] never happens because you've

[52:30] got everything you the

[52:33] megastar in phase one and

[52:34] magically phase 2 goes away.

[52:38] My concern is. And I agree

[52:39] it's kind of us is biz staff

[52:42] food all around and like to.

[52:43] Accommodate. But my concern

[52:46] is. What happens a year for

[52:48] now. They come back and say,

[52:49] oh, now we want to do this.

[52:51] This and this and they want

[52:54] another special use permit.

[52:55] And maybe the board's

[52:56] different. I don't know that

[52:56] the Department of trying to

[53:02] make is. I agree it's a bad

[53:03] situation, but we've got look

[53:04] out for what want New

[53:05] Braunfels to be like in the

[53:08] future. If zoning says no

[53:12] manufactured homes. If we

[53:13] approve the tend to stay

[53:13] there, there's got to be

[53:17] something very. So this is

[53:18] nothing else happens here for

[53:23] me to support. As a have a

[53:25] question for the applicant and

[53:26] you really you have to get up

[53:28] predict how many, how many

[53:29] locations like resort still

[53:43] have to say, like in Texas.

[53:46] >> We have I mean, to to

[53:47] outside Dallas to in Austin

[53:48] and, you know, the closest one

[53:51] hears off 16. 0, 4, and San

[53:52] Antonio, one downtown San

[53:53] Antonio than 2 of her by

[53:55] Houston. And that's just the 9

[53:56] that we operate, the 9 that

[53:58] I'm responsible for. We also

[54:00] have 3 more that are like

[54:01] operated by a 3rd party that

[54:02] we own nose or jelly stones.

[54:04] Like you mentioned earlier.

[54:05] >> So they're places where

[54:07] these thank you. Factor homes

[54:09] could be placed if this were

[54:16] denied. Potentially. Thank

[54:22] right now is. I operate a

[54:22] business that deals with

[54:28] permits, different cities and

[54:28] and it's not it's not

[54:29] manufactured home. So I

[54:30] understand some of the process

[54:32] might be a little different.

[54:34] On her la Home building. But I

[54:35] know we don't we don't move

[54:40] without a permit. We do want

[54:40] to get situation. Got her

[54:42] house down. But on the flip

[54:46] side of that, once we have a

[54:48] permit, we rely on that good

[54:50] faith that we have a permit

[54:52] and we certainly don't know

[54:55] that can come back through,

[54:55] you know, code books from 10

[54:56] years ago, 15 years ago to

[54:58] ensure that the city staff

[55:00] issue the permits, correct. So

[55:05] my thinking right now. And,

[55:06] Ali, I'm not going make a

[55:06] motion was more discussion,

[55:08] but my motion would probably

[55:14] be 2. Honor. The 3 permits.

[55:14] And approve it for the 3 that

[55:18] were issued. You know, hope

[55:19] that the other could be

[55:19] relocated repurpose somewhere

[55:21] else. That's where my head

[55:24] that at the moment.

[55:25] >> 3 permits like and 3

[55:26] manufactured homes, the ones,

[55:29] the ones that worries you. But

[55:34] then I still remove 7 right?

[55:40] Of those 12. Have are those

[55:41] strictly manufactured-home

[55:43] subdivisions? Are they

[55:44] hybrids?

[55:45] >> So the 16 properties that

[55:46] we have there are many fashion

[55:47] housing are strictly

[55:47] manufactured housing. I would

[55:51] say of the. The 12 properties

[55:51] that we have that are like

[55:55] under rv division. I think 2

[55:55] of them are considered hybrid,

[55:59] too. To have the 2, 2, in

[56:00] Dallas are considered hybrids

[56:07] and and yeah, in a how many

[56:08] developments you'll have like

[56:11] this resort.

[56:12] >> In Texas or general in

[56:16] Texas, there be about 10. And

[56:20] 9 or 7 of those 10 we operate.

[56:21] 3 are operated through a 3rd

[56:24] party. Maybe you have more

[56:25] manufactured home subdivisions

[56:25] and you have resort, correct?

[56:28] So.

[56:29] >> And I know that be a cost

[56:30] to get at a cost to Acosta you

[56:31] got to find space if you got

[56:36] it. To me. I think that option

[56:41] for residents, the neighbors.

[56:41] Applicant for the end to

[56:44] event, we have? It's a big

[56:48] lump sum. Both sides.

[56:51] >> But I can see the clear

[56:52] business model vision that you

[56:53] all have is manufactured

[56:54] homes. I think my concern is

[56:55] as planning commissioners, we

[56:59] kind of have to see through.

[56:59] As to where we're heading.

[57:04] We're going. You know, act. I

[57:05] can see I can see all coming

[57:10] back. And saying can we do 10

[57:11] more are can we go ahead and

[57:15] just? Can we make this what we

[57:18] have the other 12? I mean,

[57:20] even I mean, parent would be

[57:21] really great. Yeah, I

[57:23] understand your concern and

[57:25] for us after what we've gone

[57:26] through in the situation is is

[57:28] not our intent at all.

[57:29] >> We're already discussing

[57:31] other options for what we can

[57:32] do in those sites where we

[57:32] would potentially have added

[57:35] 10 more right. We're talking

[57:36] about making premium the lead

[57:40] sites for rv's or Brianne Park

[57:41] model. Many you know, parking

[57:41] on the Adventure Park model

[57:42] homes as rentals like we've

[57:44] already started the discussion

[57:45] because we realized that we

[57:49] were outside of the the zoning

[57:50] on this. We didn't know until,

[57:51] you know, I came up here and

[57:52] talk to Mary in mid-JULY after

[57:58] the record revocation. I to

[57:59] make a decision on on any

[58:00] decision on what MAY happen or

[58:03] what could happen when we're

[58:04] >> deciding what they're

[58:08] asking for. Now be any change

[58:09] that they would be in the They

[58:11] would have to come in and ask

[58:12] again to change the U.S. Up

[58:13] from whatever it is. We decide

[58:18] to do here. And at that time.

[58:19] The commissioners at that Time

[58:19] City Council that time could

[58:20] vie way. What would be best

[58:22] for the community? Then they

[58:23] decide that. Yeah, that time

[58:24] that we MAY need 100

[58:26] manufactured homes. But they

[58:27] have to come in and ask for

[58:28] done for a case for that with

[58:33] at that time. I think making a

[58:35] decision now based on not

[58:36] facts, but what ifs. And you

[58:37] know what MAY happen in the

[58:37] future is a wrong way to

[58:41] approach us.

[58:44] >> But I've seen this, you

[58:45] know, after 4 years and the St

[58:47] ours and when we

[58:49] >> allow.

[58:54] >> a zoning change. We have to

[58:55] prepare ourselves for our

[59:03] future. So changes? Also think

[59:04] we need to deeply consider

[59:12] staff's recommendation.

[59:13] >> Come down on the side of us

[59:17] and isolated situation. Not

[59:22] entirely of they're doing.

[59:23] That that's the overriding

[59:29] principle for me.

[59:30] >> to hear a motion of any

[59:30] circumstance, you say final

[59:33] make a motion. So I'm gonna

[59:36] make a motion to. Secondary

[59:42] this. To approve the special

[59:44] use overlay. On the condition

[59:48] that it's for the 3

[59:49] manufactured homes that have

[59:54] that were issued permits.

[59:58] Every second. Quick question.

[59:59] Those 3 permits. Those do have

[1:00:02] the numbers are right.

[1:00:09] >> Yes, they do. Was that a

[1:00:14] second chance? Motion? And

[1:00:15] second could got a question

[1:00:18] real quick for a vote. So if

[1:00:22] this passes mean taking?

[1:00:23] >> Come back. And the

[1:00:23] manufacturer homes on the

[1:00:27] property. Sponsors means they

[1:00:38] are pulled the 7 out

[1:00:44] >> I mean, what the boss in I

[1:00:45] don't know that that's

[1:00:47] beneficial to because again,

[1:00:48] because we had a specific area

[1:00:49] carved out for these 10 units,

[1:00:52] you saw it on the sly.

[1:00:53] >> So many it looks very on to

[1:00:56] have 3 units up there that are

[1:00:57] sitting alone. So I don't know

[1:00:58] that it's beneficial for us

[1:01:01] just to do that. 3. And I do

[1:01:01] understand your concern

[1:01:04] because the basis of our

[1:01:05] business is where

[1:01:05] manufacturing housing that is

[1:01:06] 100% correct. That's how we

[1:01:09] entered the market many years

[1:01:11] ago. But we have one into the

[1:01:13] rv market and it is very

[1:01:14] beneficial for us. It's very

[1:01:14] beneficial for us because a

[1:01:17] lot of families starting

[1:01:19] resorts like the one we have

[1:01:20] down here and then they MAY

[1:01:22] end up in one of our 55 plus

[1:01:23] communities in Florida later

[1:01:24] they might tell a family

[1:01:24] member about us because we're

[1:01:27] a big name in this industry.

[1:01:28] Our intent is not to change

[1:01:30] this resort into that. We

[1:01:32] wouldn't even be standing here

[1:01:33] if there were units

[1:01:34] manufactured homes there

[1:01:36] before we wouldn't be here.

[1:01:36] This wouldn't even be a

[1:01:37] conversation if they were here

[1:01:41] before. Again, we we went to a

[1:01:43] meeting in DECEMBER of last

[1:01:45] year trying to clarify that it

[1:01:46] was ok because we know how are

[1:01:48] currently zoned. We didn't

[1:01:49] know that the mh units. We do

[1:01:51] know that the bump that we ran

[1:01:53] into, but that's why we have

[1:01:53] that meeting. And again, we

[1:01:54] wouldn't be standing here if

[1:01:55] we didn't have them in the

[1:01:58] past. And that's not that's

[1:01:59] not where we're going. I

[1:02:00] promise you. We don't have

[1:02:03] indoor polls and outdoor pools

[1:02:04] and activities programs and

[1:02:04] all of that typically for me

[1:02:09] communities.

[1:02:10] >> We have a motion and we

[1:02:12] have a second.

[1:02:14] >> One other point before we

[1:02:16] go, make sure we keep insight

[1:02:19] that is recommending body and

[1:02:20] the decision will be made by

[1:02:20] city Council for for the

[1:02:27] final. Action on this request.

[1:02:31] >> So we have a motion is that

[1:02:32] thank you for the questions.

[1:02:33] Would you take a roll call,

[1:02:34] please.

[1:02:35] >> Commissioner I Commissioner

[1:02:42] Rudy. Commissioner Taylor.

[1:02:44] >> Commissioner Mathis. I

[1:02:46] Commissioner Alan.

[1:02:49] Commissioner Henry.

[1:02:52] Commissioner brazen. Vice

[1:02:59] chair, also. Chair Sonia. 5

[1:03:03] yes's.

[1:03:06] >> The motion carries make

[1:03:08] sure you restricted to 3

[1:03:17] manufactured homes. It's up to

[1:03:23] 6. Dash, 2, 6, 1, Public

[1:03:23] recommendation to City

[1:03:29] Council. Requested by. It's a

[1:03:31] one. Real on behalf of 8, 3,

[1:03:36] 9, voices Street llc to

[1:03:38] rezone. Approximately 0.1, 7

[1:03:40] sense of an acre. But it was

[1:03:46] are edition. Lot of 5 lot, 9

[1:03:47] from art dash, 2 single family

[1:03:54] into family district. To see

[1:03:56] It's up commercial office,

[1:03:59] strict district with a special

[1:04:01] use overly to a lot of

[1:04:02] short-term rental residents

[1:04:04] currently addressed 8, 3, 9

[1:04:09] oasis Tree.

[1:04:10] >> The subject property is

[1:04:13] located on the north side of

[1:04:14] Oasis Street, approximately

[1:04:16] 125 the east of right street

[1:04:17] and the Oasis Street

[1:04:21] intersection. The law is

[1:04:24] approximately 0.1 7 acres and

[1:04:26] is developed with

[1:04:28] approximately 1002 1200 Square

[1:04:31] Foot House with 3 bedrooms and

[1:04:34] 2 bathrooms. Abutting land

[1:04:35] uses are residential with a

[1:04:36] warehouse located at the

[1:04:37] southwest corner of Right

[1:04:41] Avenue and Oasis Street and an

[1:04:42] automotive repair used at the

[1:04:42] northeast corner of right

[1:04:45] Avenue and Pine Street. The

[1:04:46] property is currently zoned r

[1:04:50] 2 short-term rentals are not

[1:04:51] allowed in a residential

[1:04:53] zoning district there for the

[1:04:54] property must be rezoned to a

[1:04:56] non residential district at

[1:04:57] the same time is requesting

[1:04:59] the special use overly to

[1:05:01] allow a short-term rental use.

[1:05:04] Therefore, the applicant is

[1:05:05] here requesting to change the

[1:05:07] base, owning a property of the

[1:05:10] property to commercial office

[1:05:11] district along with that

[1:05:14] special use over late the

[1:05:18] commercial office district at

[1:05:20] residential notably a

[1:05:22] single-family residence and

[1:05:23] also allows office uses at

[1:05:24] some light commercial uses by

[1:05:29] right? This slide shows the

[1:05:31] exterior and some of the

[1:05:32] interior of the house under

[1:05:34] the city's current as tr

[1:05:35] occupancy rules are residents

[1:05:39] of this size, a host up to 8

[1:05:40] occupants and is required to

[1:05:43] have at least 3 paved

[1:05:44] off-street parking spaces,

[1:05:45] which it does appear that the

[1:05:49] law can accommodate. The

[1:05:49] applicant has submitted a site

[1:05:52] plan and a floor plan that

[1:05:53] depicts the retention of the

[1:05:56] residential character of the

[1:05:58] structure and staff notes that

[1:05:58] any future changes to either

[1:06:02] this site plan or the floor

[1:06:03] plan would require amendment

[1:06:04] to this to the U.S. Up. If it

[1:06:09] is approved. The nearest

[1:06:10] existing short-term rentals

[1:06:12] are located approximately one

[1:06:13] block South West, which is

[1:06:16] about 700 feet away along

[1:06:18] Oasis Street. And it's and the

[1:06:22] property that property zoned

[1:06:23] industrial. Situated across

[1:06:25] from an existing warehouse. So

[1:06:31] staff notes that this cons

[1:06:32] context differs a lot with the

[1:06:36] current subject site which

[1:06:36] also sits in the middle of a

[1:06:44] residential block. There's no

[1:06:46] adjacent commercial or

[1:06:47] industrial uses immediately

[1:06:51] around the property. Staff

[1:06:53] recommends denial. The Co

[1:06:55] district is New Braunfels

[1:06:55] least intense commercial

[1:06:59] zoning district. It's. Mixed

[1:07:02] use. Character is intended to

[1:07:03] balance opportunities for low

[1:07:04] intensity, neighborhood skill

[1:07:07] and walkable commercial uses.

[1:07:08] While protecting the

[1:07:09] residential character of the

[1:07:10] surrounding neighborhoods.

[1:07:13] However, it because this

[1:07:14] subject property is mid-block

[1:07:17] in. It does have those

[1:07:20] adjacent residential uses. We

[1:07:22] staff feels like it would be

[1:07:24] dedicated to negatively

[1:07:28] impacting those properties.

[1:07:28] And a guest of short-term

[1:07:32] rental at this location would

[1:07:34] be required to drive into an

[1:07:34] existing intact residential

[1:07:38] neighborhood. The nearby

[1:07:39] short-term rentals that are

[1:07:43] located nearby. They actually

[1:07:47] are zoned industrial. So i

[1:07:47] just wanted to emphasize that

[1:07:48] and they have an existing

[1:07:51] warehouse across the street.

[1:07:51] If the commission is inclined

[1:07:54] to approve this request, staff

[1:07:56] recommends the following

[1:07:58] conditions, the residential

[1:07:59] character, the property must

[1:08:01] be maintained and the property

[1:08:02] will remain in compliance with

[1:08:05] the approved site floor plan.

[1:08:09] At this time me going to these

[1:08:11] notifications. Public hearing

[1:08:12] notices were sent to owners of

[1:08:16] 26 properties within 200 feet

[1:08:17] and staff received 4 responses

[1:08:19] in opposition. Accounting for

[1:08:23] 11% of the notification area.

[1:08:27] And one response in support.

[1:08:28] Unless the opposition

[1:08:29] increases a supermajority vote

[1:08:30] of city council would not be

[1:08:33] required to approve this

[1:08:34] applicants request. If you

[1:08:35] have any questions, I'm happy

[1:08:36] to answer regarding

[1:08:41] application. Commissioners,

[1:08:45] any questions for staff?

[1:08:46] >> Thank you quick. And is

[1:08:54] here to present.

[1:08:55] >> your name and whether a

[1:08:59] resident New Braunfels.

[1:09:00] >> Hi, my name is yet to come.

[1:09:00] One my non resident of New

[1:09:05] Braunfels. I am a resident of

[1:09:07] the como districts. Familiar

[1:09:07] with the area, but it's just

[1:09:11] outside city limits. Just a

[1:09:13] little bit of backstory with

[1:09:14] this property we have on this

[1:09:16] property since 2008 and its

[1:09:17] families throughout all this

[1:09:20] time. A couple of years ago,

[1:09:23] we decided to do every model

[1:09:24] lien on the property which

[1:09:26] turn out to be a beautiful

[1:09:27] Used to be super small. 2

[1:09:30] bedroom, one bath and we went

[1:09:31] through the whole process of

[1:09:32] permits and you 19 years all

[1:09:35] that stuff to make it. A

[1:09:39] really nice property after

[1:09:42] remodeling this property. We

[1:09:43] had one long-term resident. It

[1:09:46] was a business owner here in

[1:09:48] New Braunfels. Who leaves the

[1:09:49] property for about a year. And

[1:09:51] then after that, he bought a

[1:09:55] house, its been vacant since

[1:09:55] it's been really hard to lease

[1:09:59] a property. It's Bacon for

[1:10:02] almost a year and a half. And

[1:10:04] we still have a mortgage on

[1:10:06] the property. So at this

[1:10:07] point, we just want like at

[1:10:10] least some type of income. So

[1:10:15] we're seeing on this property.

[1:10:20] Fast forward to this year. My

[1:10:22] we are a family, you know,

[1:10:27] people forward to these year.

[1:10:30] My family and I kind of stay

[1:10:30] during the summer and

[1:10:33] altercations and we have

[1:10:34] always in love with the city

[1:10:37] of New Braunfels. I had a

[1:10:37] slide show, but I'm sorry. I

[1:10:49] think it's too late, too. That

[1:10:51] is not business and work. You

[1:11:06] can you a k project.

[1:11:10] >> So we basically made this

[1:11:12] property, the noises that New

[1:11:14] Braunfels because it is

[1:11:15] located on always history. It

[1:11:15] was we thought that he was a

[1:11:19] nice nice, though. I think

[1:11:20] it's going to be a great

[1:11:22] Airbnb because it's really

[1:11:26] centrally located in minutes

[1:11:29] away from water bar downtown

[1:11:29] local shops, the museum

[1:11:33] Buc-ee's another. Even I-35

[1:11:35] and basically like I

[1:11:36] mentioned, even when we get

[1:11:37] people from out of state, we

[1:11:38] usually bring them all the way

[1:11:39] to New Braunfels because we

[1:11:41] know the culture. We know

[1:11:47] vive. I always support local,

[1:11:49] you coffee shops and we love

[1:11:53] the festival. I'm just coming

[1:11:54] out of the routine from our,

[1:11:58] you every day they to they

[1:11:59] work. And then coming here

[1:12:02] just to connect with nature.

[1:12:03] With this Airbnb, I would like

[1:12:08] to help the community a our

[1:12:11] local tourism and creating and

[1:12:12] supporting more local shops

[1:12:13] and restaurants even local,

[1:12:16] you know, handyman Sen

[1:12:18] cleaning companies. I know one

[1:12:19] of the concerns for the

[1:12:26] neighborhood. Didn't one of

[1:12:31] the concerns is that. They

[1:12:31] don't they don't want, you

[1:12:35] know, people that are.

[1:12:36] Probably light drinking or

[1:12:37] partying are being loud

[1:12:39] because it is a really quiet

[1:12:39] neighborhood. All the

[1:12:42] neighbors are amazing. I

[1:12:42] wouldn't want to the survey

[1:12:46] any of these I have under

[1:12:49] their be there's a setting

[1:12:51] where you can either in stem

[1:12:52] book or you have to approve of

[1:12:53] the bookings. And this is what

[1:12:56] I'm planning to do. 2 approval

[1:12:57] of the book because even

[1:13:00] myself, I wouldn't want any

[1:13:02] party people or allow people

[1:13:03] in my house that might be the

[1:13:04] facility to trash the place or

[1:13:10] doing our furniture. The first

[1:13:11] few weeks that I didn't know

[1:13:15] we needed to do a rezoning. We

[1:13:17] had a a couple of guests that

[1:13:19] everyone was really happy. Not

[1:13:21] only with the house, but with

[1:13:22] the convenience that they

[1:13:24] didn't have to pay to 3 hotel

[1:13:27] rooms and they have those

[1:13:27] additional resources to

[1:13:29] support the local shops in New

[1:13:36] Braunfels. Do you have

[1:13:40] questions for me? How did you

[1:13:45] find out? I got a letter.

[1:13:47] Basically we went live for him

[1:13:49] and or be. And then after 2

[1:13:54] weeks they receive a letter.

[1:13:56] someone complain? No, I think

[1:13:59] it's I don't know. It's part

[1:13:59] of the

[1:14:00] >> of cd to monitor like other

[1:14:01] air Bnb. Is that going live on

[1:14:05] the city? And of course, know

[1:14:08] it's a lot to ask. You know,

[1:14:09] like we don't plan to sell

[1:14:11] this property, this is

[1:14:11] probably going to be one of

[1:14:13] those retirement homes because

[1:14:14] we really like the community

[1:14:16] and we love the city. So

[1:14:21] basically. If there's like in

[1:14:24] a condition that you allow me

[1:14:24] to the rezoning and even any

[1:14:28] moment. We decide to sell,

[1:14:31] they can cancel that. We don't

[1:14:38] want any profit. Basically.

[1:14:39] >> When was last time you

[1:14:43] tried to lease the property?

[1:14:44] Well, it's actually on the

[1:14:45] market for long term. But no

[1:14:51] luck. Do you know if you are

[1:14:57] overpriced? Yes, we are

[1:14:58] overpriced compared to other

[1:14:58] properties. But to be honest

[1:15:01] with you, this is a one unique

[1:15:03] property.

[1:15:03] >> Most of the properties

[1:15:05] around the neighborhood,

[1:15:05] there's Their 2 bedroom, one

[1:15:10] bath. Between a 10900 square

[1:15:12] feet. This is a 3 bedroom, 2

[1:15:14] bath and it's almost 1500

[1:15:16] square feet Icr 2300 a month.

[1:15:21] Yeah. That's probably it is so

[1:15:23] beautiful. Property is just

[1:15:23] and you know, like I said, we

[1:15:27] have a mortgage we actually

[1:15:27] thought about decreasing the

[1:15:31] price. And we did the crease

[1:15:34] surprise last It's just it was

[1:15:40] expensive. Still. I mean, this

[1:15:41] case. I know most of the

[1:15:42] families that where our guest

[1:15:45] on their bnb up, they were

[1:15:46] really grateful. The fact that

[1:15:48] like I said, they had more

[1:15:50] resources to spend in the

[1:15:53] community and that they have a

[1:15:54] private inconvenience place to

[1:16:03] just travel a lot and events.

[1:16:08] This is a public hearing.

[1:16:09] >> Anyone think speak in favor

[1:16:10] of this are opposed to Please

[1:16:13] come forward. Seeing none.

[1:16:16] We'll close the public

[1:16:17] hearing. Commissioners

[1:16:24] questions, comments, motions.

[1:16:28] >> My comments, I guess. They

[1:16:29] get think sympathize with the

[1:16:33] situation financially. I do

[1:16:36] think we have to. In my

[1:16:40] opinion set that aside. You

[1:16:41] know, real estate market as a

[1:16:43] whole is not what it was 4

[1:16:43] years ago.

[1:16:44] >> I think we have to be

[1:16:45] careful using that as a

[1:16:46] consideration because we can

[1:16:50] see this popping up.

[1:16:51] Especially given the current

[1:16:52] climate. So my thoughts on

[1:16:55] that.

[1:16:56] >> And a notification. There

[1:16:58] were some people neighbors are

[1:16:59] objecting to. Is that correct?

[1:17:05] Once on occasion, Mount. We've

[1:17:06] had a Cooper live applicants

[1:17:09] like this room. They were

[1:17:12] looking change it to we've

[1:17:13] discussed because it could

[1:17:13] also be changed into an

[1:17:18] office. Work goes over pretty

[1:17:22] extensively in the 2 years.

[1:17:23] >> So what's the distance of

[1:17:26] the close us str? Mary? 700

[1:17:29] feet.

[1:17:31] >> issue is this is big block.

[1:17:36] You know, are too

[1:17:37] >> That and the other str is

[1:17:40] in a different basis. Only in

[1:17:42] the light industrial zoning

[1:17:42] surrounded by light industrial

[1:17:44] commercial zone properties. So

[1:17:45] >> and what's the closest

[1:17:48] commercial to this? I know

[1:17:54] there's industrial.

[1:17:54] >> The closest commercial is a

[1:17:59] probably. 150 feet on the

[1:18:02] corner. And I think it's pine

[1:18:03] rise that auto shop there on

[1:18:07] the court. I have a question

[1:18:10] for the applicant.

[1:18:11] >> So what was vision or did

[1:18:12] John not know? Y'all just kind

[1:18:14] of got excited and started

[1:18:16] remodeling or I mean? Did you

[1:18:20] see yourself doing this?

[1:18:21] >> Well, our vision was to

[1:18:22] remodel and Lisa for a couple

[1:18:24] of more years until my father

[1:18:29] decided to retire. Which he

[1:18:30] says he's going to do any

[1:18:33] time. Some Bush think it keeps

[1:18:34] >> But it's been it's been a

[1:18:38] nice experience now that it's

[1:18:39] furnance.

[1:18:40] >> Like I mentioned, we

[1:18:44] usually come to 3 times a

[1:18:46] month with the family and we

[1:18:47] love to spend time. I mean,

[1:18:49] just passed everything, you

[1:18:52] know, like the water bar wine.

[1:18:53] We have a local coffee shops

[1:18:56] and is just the community. Do

[1:19:01] not intend to. I am 10 to

[1:19:02] continue with the values of

[1:19:04] the city of New Braunfels. I

[1:19:05] know how with space and that's

[1:19:06] one of the reasons why we

[1:19:06] don't want to sell this We

[1:19:07] don't want to be forced to

[1:19:11] sell Because we really like

[1:19:14] this So was an intention to

[1:19:15] move into the House full-time

[1:19:15] government.

[1:19:19] >> Yes.

[1:19:21] >> And I'm like I mentioned, I

[1:19:22] mean, I understand one of the

[1:19:26] concerns maybe with the with

[1:19:29] the neighbors could be like

[1:19:30] loud noises most of the

[1:19:32] advertising that I do. It's to

[1:19:34] welcome families. Like I said,

[1:19:36] I have to approve all the

[1:19:38] guest and not only that, we

[1:19:39] have security cameras to make

[1:19:40] sure that they we have house

[1:19:43] rules as well. That is they're

[1:19:44] not follow weekend,

[1:19:45] definitely, you know, just

[1:19:50] Macomb, you way. I mean, I

[1:19:51] understand this is like a

[1:19:54] huge. Steps in says, you know,

[1:19:57] far from. But it's in the

[1:20:00] middle of the street. But if

[1:20:01] there's any conditions, you

[1:20:05] know, far as being. Probably

[1:20:08] like, if the property cells

[1:20:09] within the one or 2 years, you

[1:20:10] know, we don't mind if you

[1:20:13] cancel this request. The

[1:20:14] change funding can go back to

[1:20:26] residential. To reopen at

[1:20:31] public. Yeah, be.

[1:20:36] >> I move or dial. Motion.

[1:20:37] Second, could we get a roll

[1:20:39] please.

[1:20:41] >> Commissioner Nulty.

[1:20:43] Commissioner Rudy.

[1:20:46] Commissioner Taylor.

[1:20:47] Commissioner Matt this. All

[1:20:50] right, Commissioner Alan.

[1:20:51] Commissioner Henry.

[1:20:54] Commissioner Brazier. Vice

[1:21:00] chair. Also. Chair Sunday. I

[1:21:04] >> motion is denied. Applicant

[1:21:06] or application is denied. It

[1:21:11] will go for us too. City

[1:21:17] Council me. Do you know when

[1:21:17] so weak to leave? That'll be

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