[1:59] Mhm.

[4:14] » Okay, so I'm going to go into our

[4:16] meeting.

[4:17] So,

[4:19] we're going to go to confirmation of the

[4:21] agenda. I'm going to go over to clerk.

[4:24] Be it resolved that the agenda for the

[4:25] special council meeting held on June 17,

[4:27] 2026 be confirmed as circulated.

[4:30] Councillor Best, thank you. Councillor

[4:32] Jacks, thank you. That's mover and

[4:34] seconder. All those in favor?

[4:37] That's carried. Thank you, Council.

[4:39] Disclosures of pecuniary interest.

[4:42] This is when members of Council identify

[4:43] any disclosures of pecuniary interest

[4:45] and the reason thereof.

[4:47] If you find yourself in that position as

[4:48] we go through the evening, please notify

[4:51] the chair. And Councillor Rappin,

[4:53] please.

[4:55] » I declare pecuniary interest in the

[4:58] sports dome, item one. I'm a contractor.

[5:02] And if you've seen my brand new truck

[5:03] out in the parking lot and all the paint

[5:05] splashed around it, then you know what

[5:06] it is I'm doing for them.

[5:08] Thank you.

[5:11] » I thought you were parked too close

[5:12] under a tree when I saw that white stuff

[5:14] on it, but that's just me.

[5:16] Um so anyhow, okay, so we have a

[5:17] conflict of interest.

[5:20] So,

[5:21] good evening, everyone, and welcome. On

[5:23] behalf of Council, I'd like to thank you

[5:24] for being here this evening and for your

[5:26] interest in the matters that are before

[5:28] us tonight.

[5:29] This evening's meeting will begin with

[5:31] the scheduled presentation, after which

[5:33] Council will hear from the registered

[5:35] deputations before opening the floor to

[5:37] members of the public.

[5:39] In the interest of respecting everyone's

[5:41] time, we would ask you to keep your

[5:43] deputations to a maximum of 7 minutes

[5:47] and have one spokesperson per

[5:49] organization or community group

[5:51] to ensure everyone has a chance to speak

[5:53] before council tonight.

[5:55] At the conclusion of the deputations,

[5:57] council will then move into discussion,

[5:59] consideration of reports, and ask

[6:01] questions.

[6:03] So, we appreciate everyone's cooperation

[6:04] helping the meeting proceed in an

[6:06] orderly and respectful manner.

[6:08] And after the presentations and the

[6:10] deputations, depending on the time, uh

[6:13] as the chair, I may call a 5-10 minute

[6:15] break and then convene everybody back.

[6:17] So, please be on time

[6:19] if we get to that stage. I appreciate

[6:21] that. Thank you very much.

[6:26] So, we're going to move right in and

[6:29] the first item is number one. I'm going

[6:30] to go to um

[6:33] our director, Mobs, please. I I do have

[6:35] a question though before we begin. The

[6:37] items are placed on the agenda one, two,

[6:39] and three.

[6:40] What was the rationale on how they were

[6:42] placed on the agenda, please?

[6:46] » Thank you, Mayor Norcross, to members of

[6:48] council and to the audience. The

[6:49] sequencing of the three reports uh is

[6:52] important is important for council

[6:53] consideration today. The first study,

[6:56] the sports dome study, allows council

[6:58] the opportunity to expand indoor turfs

[7:00] turf sports in New Tecumseth to

[7:02] accommodate sports such as soccer and

[7:04] baseball, among others. Should council

[7:06] approve this project, council's programs

[7:09] currently located in the field house

[7:10] could effectively be moved to the sports

[7:12] dome.

[7:13] This then brings up the opportunity to

[7:15] review the pool feasibility study, which

[7:17] includes an expansion of the NTRC to

[7:20] repurpose the field house. If the sports

[7:22] dome in the first report is not

[7:23] approved, this effectively limits the

[7:26] opportunities in the second report, um

[7:28] which includes repurposing the field

[7:30] house to include sports like ball

[7:32] hockey, roller derby, as well as

[7:34] pickleball.

[7:35] This then presents what I call the third

[7:36] domino. The Beeton Community Centre

[7:38] project, as council knows knows, has

[7:40] many moving parts, including the option

[7:42] to have ice or non-ice programs within

[7:44] Beaton. Should council choose to approve

[7:46] the sports dome, this presents an

[7:48] opportunity to reimagine the field house

[7:50] at the NTRC to relocate programs into

[7:52] into the field house, and then possibly

[7:55] accommodate dry sports such as ball

[7:56] hockey into the NTRC field house. So,

[8:00] without making a decision on the first

[8:02] report, it's difficult to make decisions

[8:03] on the second report. The The

[8:05] recommendations would have to be

[8:06] modified, and then as well as the third

[8:08] report. So, just to give council all

[8:10] options in sequence to be able to

[8:12] consider a systems-wide approach to

[8:14] delivering recreation infrastructure.

[8:17] >> Thank you for that very detailed

[8:19] » Thank you for that very detailed

[8:19] explanation, Director. And my other

[8:21] question, these are questions that I've

[8:23] received from members of the public.

[8:25] Is there anywhere in the reports tonight

[8:27] that are making a recommendation

[8:30] to demolish

[8:32] the AMA or remove it from programming?

[8:37] » Uh through your worship, to members of

[8:38] council and the audience, uh in the

[8:40] three reports included today for council

[8:42] consideration, there's no rec-

[8:44] recommendations pertaining to the AMA.

[8:48] >> Thank you very much. So, Director Mobbs,

[8:50] » Thank you very much. So, Director Mobbs,

[8:50] first up we have our presentation. And

[8:52] the first one, sports dome phase two

[8:54] feasibility report. So, Director Mobbs,

[8:56] can you introduce your team and who will

[8:58] be making the presentation, please?

[9:05] » Uh thank you, Mayor Norcross. Through

[9:07] Through you, to members of council and

[9:08] the audience, our first presentation

[9:10] this evening relates to the sports dome

[9:12] feasibility study phase two. This work

[9:15] builds on the town's earlier analysis

[9:16] and provides council with detailed

[9:18] information on facility sizing, capital

[9:21] and operating considerations, and staff

[9:23] recommended operating model.

[9:25] The study identifies strong and growing

[9:27] demand for indoor turf

[9:28] turf

[9:29] sports, and evaluates a full-size FIFA

[9:32] standard dome at Jeff Gaston Sports Park

[9:35] as the preferred solution.

[9:37] It also aligns how the facility could be

[9:39] delivered and operated in a way that

[9:41] balances financial sustainability with

[9:43] community access and public benefit.

[9:46] Staff have confirmed with both SSU and

[9:48] the president of the New Tecumseth

[9:49] Baseball Association that this would be

[9:51] a welcome addition that will enhance

[9:53] service levels, making this amenity a

[9:55] true multi-sport facility. NTBA could

[9:58] not attend tonight, though that they

[9:59] send their regrets and have indicated

[10:00] they support this project. I will now

[10:03] turn it over to Steve Langlois, vice

[10:05] president and principal planner with

[10:06] Monteith Brown Planning Consultants,

[10:08] who's joining us virtually this evening.

[10:10] So, through you, Mayor, with your

[10:12] permission, I'll turn it over to Mr.

[10:13] Langlois.

[10:14] >> Thank you.

[10:15] » Thank you.

[10:15] >> Thank you, Director. Go ahead, sir.

[10:18] » Thank you, Director. Go ahead, sir.

[10:18] >> Excellent. Good evening,

[10:20] » Excellent. Good evening,

[10:20] your your worship and members of

[10:22] council. I'm excited to share our team's

[10:26] findings and vision for a new

[10:27] air-supported dome in New Tecumseth. I

[10:30] also appreciate you accommodating me

[10:32] remotely this evening.

[10:34] Also joining me online and will be

[10:36] available for Q&A, should you have any

[10:38] questions relative to the business plan

[10:40] component of this report, is John

[10:42] Frittenburg of the JF Group. So, we can

[10:45] call on John as needed later on in the

[10:47] evening.

[10:48] Next slide, please.

[10:52] So, to start, the sports dome

[10:54] feasibility study addresses the indoor

[10:56] turf requirements of a growing

[10:57] community. This report, this process

[11:01] really has been divided into two phases.

[11:03] A reminder that the first phase, which

[11:06] was led by staff and culminated in a

[11:08] report to council in November of 20 last

[11:11] year, was

[11:14] really helped to lay the groundwork for

[11:16] this

[11:17] more detailed feasibility study in phase

[11:19] two.

[11:20] One of the items that it did do and and

[11:22] council had resolved to select Jeff S.

[11:25] Gallant Sports Park as the preferred

[11:27] location for the sports dome.

[11:29] The work that's before you today is

[11:31] phase two. It's a more detailed

[11:33] feasibility study.

[11:35] Uh, looks at space needs, capital cost,

[11:38] operating cost, business model, and

[11:40] potential partnerships.

[11:42] Uh, the study itself does do a goes into

[11:45] a great deal of of detail around

[11:48] facility needs. Those needs have been

[11:50] informed by public input and user group

[11:52] requests, uh, partially through the

[11:55] broader, um,

[11:56] recreation planning initiatives that

[11:57] have been ongoing over the last number

[11:59] of months. Also looked at usage levels,

[12:02] other limitations relative to the

[12:04] existing infrastructure, and and

[12:06] potentially, um,

[12:08] what those regional supplies, regional

[12:10] demand might be. A facility like this

[12:12] has the potential to draw from a larger

[12:15] area, and that's a consideration

[12:17] within the report as well.

[12:19] Uh, and as noted, really the project has

[12:21] been coordinated with a variety of other

[12:23] ongoing initiatives. So, it's a great

[12:25] time to do this holistic and and

[12:28] comprehensive planning. So, we're happy

[12:29] to have this report in front of council

[12:31] for your consideration today. Next

[12:33] slide.

[12:37] Uh, to set the stage, you'd you'd be

[12:38] aware that field turf activities,

[12:41] indoor,

[12:42] uh, so this is something that is used

[12:44] largely during the, uh,

[12:46] late fall, winter, and early spring

[12:49] months are accommodated through the

[12:51] field house at the existing field house

[12:53] at the new tech, uh, new tech comes with

[12:55] recreation center. That field house was

[12:58] designed to be converted into an arena

[13:00] or or other form of rink. So, it's

[13:02] designed as, um, that that particular

[13:06] type of dimension, generally like a 200

[13:09] by 85 ft NHL size type of, uh, floor

[13:13] area.

[13:15] Um, that's been somewhat limiting for,

[13:18] uh, for full use of the space by your

[13:22] sports associations, uh, but it's

[13:24] certainly been, uh, progressive and and

[13:26] has been well used by the by the

[13:28] community for the last number of years.

[13:31] Uh we're excited for the opportunity

[13:32] that the new sports dome will bring

[13:34] because it allows us to look more

[13:35] closely at that space and and reimagine

[13:38] it for other in-demand uses that will be

[13:40] guided by the work that's forthcoming

[13:43] out of the action plan and I understand

[13:45] Councillor Mallows will have an update

[13:47] on that shortly

[13:49] later this evening.

[13:50] So as noted, the South Simcoe United

[13:52] Football Club or SSU is seeking a larger

[13:55] venue to support year-round play and

[13:57] training including economic tournament

[14:00] tournaments that would provide local

[14:02] economic spin-offs.

[14:04] Next slide.

[14:08] The proposed sports dome is intended to

[14:10] offer flexible spaces for a variety of

[14:12] activities in a year-round setting. So

[14:14] this is a dome that would stay up

[14:16] year-round. It would allow for

[14:18] climate-controlled access 12 months of

[14:20] the year.

[14:22] It really has an ability to address a

[14:25] very wide range of needs.

[14:27] While it will be primarily used for

[14:29] soccer, we and and on that point, we

[14:31] know that SSU currently serves around

[14:33] 3,900 players and

[14:36] has a waitlist, has a very successful

[14:40] winter program, has a very successful

[14:42] summer program and the dome would set it

[14:45] up for success for both of those

[14:47] programs moving forward for the for the

[14:50] foreseeable future.

[14:52] In addition to soccer, it will have

[14:55] utility for a wide range of other

[14:56] activities, baseball certainly being

[14:58] among them. Baseball training is really

[15:00] what we're looking at. Demand to get

[15:03] some early season preseason

[15:06] type of skills training.

[15:08] Other field sports, many of which are

[15:11] easily modified to to use a space such

[15:13] as this.

[15:14] And it's not just sports, but moving

[15:16] further into town programming, camps,

[15:19] rentals, birthday parties, events and

[15:21] more.

[15:22] Next slide.

[15:25] So, our study went

[15:27] looked very closely at the potential

[15:29] market for a facility like this. That

[15:31] helps us identify demand and come up

[15:33] with a usage profile for for the

[15:36] facility.

[15:37] Um that's going and and which in turn

[15:39] allowed us to better understand the

[15:42] configuration that would be best suited

[15:45] to Tecumseth both now and into the

[15:47] future.

[15:48] Um currently, there's about 190,000

[15:51] people really within market catchment

[15:54] for this facility. They're not all your

[15:56] residents.

[15:57] Um you know, 50,000 or or or so are are

[16:00] are in New Tecumseth.

[16:02] There's a secondary market in

[16:03] Adjala-Tosorontio, Essa, and tertiary in

[16:07] Innisfil and Bradford West Gwillimbury.

[16:10] Right now, there's only one dome,

[16:12] a much smaller, you know, a relatively

[16:14] small dome in Bradford. It is at

[16:16] capacity, and there's

[16:18] much latent demand in that community as

[16:20] well.

[16:22] Um on this basis, the analysis found

[16:24] that a small dome, and and I'll show you

[16:26] a bit of a graphic on this in a moment.

[16:28] We're going to use two two terms, small

[16:30] and large.

[16:31] Uh small being sort of these two

[16:32] small-sided fields, large being twice

[16:35] the size, more of a FIFA equivalent, uh

[16:39] would be So, a small dome would be

[16:41] unable to support current and future

[16:42] demand.

[16:45] Um and is also something that's uh has

[16:47] not been supported by SSU in their

[16:49] program model. And I think that's an

[16:51] important consideration as well.

[16:55] Next slide.

[16:59] So, a little further on sort of those

[17:01] those two size options that I uh

[17:04] spoke to there. The phase one study

[17:06] recommended that small dome, about

[17:07] 60,000 square feet,

[17:09] uh that would consist of of two, you

[17:11] know, divisible into two programmable

[17:13] spaces.

[17:15] Um this is not recommended. It'd be

[17:17] insufficient to support that existing

[17:19] and future demand. Doesn't meet those

[17:21] technical requirements of your local

[17:23] user groups. And uh, would be very

[17:26] limited use during the summer season.

[17:30] Uh, rather our report recommends the

[17:33] larger dome option.

[17:34] Uh, so

[17:36] about 100,000 square feet give or take

[17:38] consisting of four small-sided fields.

[17:40] So, doubling from two to four playable

[17:43] surfaces.

[17:44] Uh, usage can still occur on a large

[17:46] template, but what we find with these

[17:48] facilities most of it occurs on these

[17:50] smaller small-sided fields. This is

[17:52] something that SSU uh, is supportive of

[17:55] as a practice, game, and tournament

[17:57] venue.

[17:58] Um,

[17:59] that would offer multiple multi-sport

[18:01] functionality, greater options for town

[18:03] programming, rentals. Uh, would be able

[18:06] to the town would be able to grow into

[18:08] it as as demand continues to build. And

[18:11] um, interestingly also has greater

[18:13] potential for summer use. As as you'll

[18:15] see in a moment, the idea is to um,

[18:18] erect this dome over a an existing

[18:21] outdoor soccer field. We don't want to

[18:23] lose that space during the summer. Uh,

[18:25] we want to be able to make sure it

[18:27] continues to be programmed. The the

[18:29] large dome option offers that. Next

[18:32] slide.

[18:35] So, I mentioned the field layout a

[18:37] little um, just to to hammer home I

[18:39] guess the point of what we are looking

[18:41] at. You'll see a graphic uh, there on

[18:43] your right.

[18:45] And and if you've been in domes or in

[18:47] the return venues across the province,

[18:49] there is

[18:50] not generally one standard size for

[18:52] them. Uh, some are are played on very

[18:55] modified structures.

[18:57] Um, so

[18:59] but in designing this from the start, we

[19:00] have the opportunity design with

[19:01] intention and with end use in mind. Most

[19:05] of the soccer that you do see and most

[19:07] of the baseball training and a lot of

[19:09] the other sports will use these sort of

[19:11] small-sided fields which are really 7v7,

[19:14] so seven players on a side, 10 plates.

[19:17] Uh you'll see the large dome, the FIFA

[19:19] option, which is recommended by um the

[19:21] study, allows for four of those. The

[19:24] smaller dome option would really,

[19:27] you know, take about half of that space.

[19:29] Uh so, it would offer two of those uh to

[19:32] allow for

[19:33] two concurrent activities as opposed to

[19:35] four.

[19:36] Next slide.

[19:40] As noted, an existing full-size grass

[19:42] field would be converted to artificial

[19:44] turf and domed for all-season use.

[19:47] You'll see a bit of a graphic there and

[19:48] have others as we go through the

[19:50] presentation on what this could look

[19:51] like in Jeff Gaston Park. This is an

[19:54] image that's really sort of looking

[19:56] south. Uh you'll see the

[19:59] more or less the existing roadway and

[20:01] entrance into the park. You'll see your

[20:03] wastewater plant. Um

[20:06] uh some of those silos there um sort of

[20:08] poking into that graphic. So, this is um

[20:13] I believe it's field one. I could be

[20:14] wrong on that, but it'll be the the the

[20:15] first major field that you see as you

[20:17] drive into the complex. That's the

[20:19] location of the dome.

[20:21] The

[20:22] uh importantly here, the dome would also

[20:24] be supported by uh a support building.

[20:27] This would be a permanent structure. Uh

[20:29] it would be you can sort of see it

[20:31] through the transparency, really on sort

[20:33] of the south side, so at the top end of

[20:35] of that dome. This building would

[20:37] provide washrooms for uh year-round use

[20:39] of the dome as well as summer use of the

[20:41] entire site. Right now, uh

[20:43] the the site is served uh does not is

[20:45] not serviced and is

[20:48] supported by uh portable washrooms

[20:51] throughout the summer year. This is uh

[20:53] improvements to the site such as this

[20:55] were recommended in the town's uh 2024

[20:58] Parks, Trails, and Open Space Plan.

[21:01] By siting this uh dome on this

[21:03] particular site, uh and with SSU

[21:06] indicating that they would it would they

[21:08] would continue to use this site to

[21:09] accommodate their summer programming, it

[21:12] results in no net loss of fields.

[21:14] And additionally, there's a potential to

[21:16] establish a new 9 v 9 grass field near

[21:18] the eastern perimeter of the park. So,

[21:20] that field that you see that outdoor

[21:22] field not shown on this graphic, that

[21:23] would be new as needs allow. Uh,

[21:26] currently that's a fallow uh,

[21:28] property. Um, a little bit low, but some

[21:31] of the fill could be uh, transferred to

[21:33] that location. And uh, we stay out of

[21:36] any sort of NVCA regulated limits with

[21:38] that.

[21:40] Uh, next slide will show the site plan.

[21:45] A bird's eye view. So, you'll see a

[21:48] slightly reconfigured entry drive into

[21:51] the property.

[21:52] >> [snorts]

[21:53] » [snorts]

[21:53] >> Uh, that's

[21:54] » Uh, that's

[21:54] an area that would be paved. It would

[21:56] allow for some paving of of portions of

[22:00] that parking lot. The

[22:04] for the most part existing field uh,

[22:06] configuration would remain and the dome

[22:08] goes over that large field as you enter

[22:11] into the property.

[22:12] Next slide.

[22:15] The proposed sports dome and all of the

[22:17] additional site work, so servicing, uh,

[22:21] uh, storm water and so on would uh,

[22:24] comes in a estimated capital cost of

[22:26] $10.5 million.

[22:29] This is total project cost. It's it's a

[22:31] class D project estimate. Um, there's

[22:34] many similar models in Ontario that have

[22:36] been built in in recent years

[22:38] in and around this number. Uh, we worked

[22:40] with uh, a landscape planning limited,

[22:43] uh, a group that has uh,

[22:45] designed and

[22:48] uh, worked on several of these dome

[22:49] projects in Ontario, including most

[22:52] recently in Brampton to help confirm

[22:54] those costs. Next slide.

[22:58] Now, in terms of operating model, uh,

[23:00] there are certainly many options and

[23:02] you'll see that throughout the province

[23:03] where other sectors are involved,

[23:05] whether municipal, uh, not-for-profit,

[23:07] or private. Um, and and really

[23:10] it's it's a matter of looking at the

[23:12] specific circumstances within your

[23:14] community to decide what the best fit

[23:16] is. Um, our recommendation is that the

[23:18] town, uh, be take the lead in developing

[23:21] and managing the proposed sports dome.

[23:24] Uh, there's a number of reasons for

[23:25] that. Uh, most notably, town operation

[23:27] helps to ensure fair scheduling and

[23:29] access for a range of community groups.

[23:32] Uh, while so again, soccer would likely

[23:34] be the most dominant, uh, renter of the

[23:36] space, it also allows for use with, uh,

[23:39] for use from from other sports, other

[23:40] activities, other town programming.

[23:43] Uh, the dome could also be coordinated

[23:45] with other town fields, facilities,

[23:47] recreation programs to optimize

[23:49] year-round use. Uh,

[23:51] you have you have control of it. Uh, you

[23:53] can, uh,

[23:54] use and leverage your recreation

[23:56] software, your marketing, and your other

[23:58] tools to make sure that it's, uh, used

[24:00] to its full benefit.

[24:02] And municipal oversight also prioritizes

[24:05] broad public benefit, affordability,

[24:07] inclusive programming. So, you set the

[24:09] rates, and you set the hours,

[24:11] uh, and and you, uh, hope to dictate,

[24:14] uh, how it's used and how it's, uh,

[24:16] benefits your community.

[24:18] Next slide.

[24:21] Uh, the dome itself, uh, from an

[24:23] operating perspective, and and we tend

[24:25] to approach these in a very conservative

[24:27] manner. Um,

[24:29] indoor turf, as a general rule, has the

[24:32] potential to be, um,

[24:35] I'll say I'll say revenue neutral. In

[24:37] some cases, it can be profitable, but

[24:39] there's there's always a story behind

[24:40] the story, and it depends how you're

[24:42] you're counting your costs. Um, and what

[24:45] I mean by that is

[24:46] if we just look at pure revenue

[24:49] uh, against costs,

[24:51] um, they're pretty close. Uh, and and

[24:52] this is in initial years of operation.

[24:54] We anticipate there would be some

[24:56] additional capacity in in the early

[24:58] years. As the municipality grows, that

[25:00] would

[25:02] it would reach more full capacity, so

[25:04] allow for better

[25:06] revenue generation without any real

[25:08] impact on costs.

[25:11] But it would have a slight surplus in in

[25:13] the initial in the initial years.

[25:16] However, there are certain elements of

[25:17] this, whether it be field turf itself,

[25:20] the dome fabric, the HVAC system, that

[25:23] they do have a finite life. And those

[25:25] are those are generally 15, you know,

[25:27] from around 12 to 15 years for the turf,

[25:30] 20 to 25 years potentially for the the

[25:33] dome fabric, the HVAC. So, we like to

[25:36] provide some full, you know, from fuller

[25:37] cost sort of accounting around this. If

[25:40] we look at

[25:43] what those replace capital replacement

[25:45] costs are, and if you're putting money

[25:47] away each year, so that when the year

[25:49] comes up for those items

[25:52] to be replaced, it's already there in

[25:54] reserve, that changes the equation a

[25:57] little bit, and the facility itself

[25:59] would have a net operational cost year

[26:02] over year in and around $276,000.

[26:06] Again, we anticipate that that will

[26:09] become more and more profitable

[26:12] over time as the community grows. Again,

[26:14] your costs stay relatively the same, but

[26:17] your revenue potential rises faster.

[26:20] And one last slide,

[26:23] just to give you a sense of what this

[26:25] could look like from a development

[26:26] perspective.

[26:28] There's there's a bit of site prep and

[26:30] servicing involved here, and that's

[26:32] really the bulk, frankly, of of the

[26:34] work. We have to consider seasonality

[26:35] and access to the site, and the ability

[26:38] to do the work without

[26:40] unduly impeding existing uses. So, we

[26:43] anticipate a development timeline of 12

[26:45] to 15 months. There's a number of steps

[26:47] that would be required by the town to

[26:50] step in and

[26:52] seek the necessary approvals, ready the

[26:54] site, work with partners to ensure that

[26:57] there's a solid understanding of of

[26:59] what's required there. So, there's still

[27:02] work ahead,

[27:03] but we're excited around this potential

[27:05] vision for the for the site and um

[27:09] with that I'll I'll conclude my

[27:11] presentation and I will hang back in the

[27:14] in the in the abyss here and wait to be

[27:16] called back on for any questions.

[27:19] >> Okay, thank you very much. I'm going to

[27:20] » Okay, thank you very much. I'm going to

[27:20] go to the director. Please, would you

[27:21] like to do the next one? Thank you.

[27:26] » Uh thank you, Your Worship. If I may,

[27:28] I'm happy to introduce the next

[27:29] presenter just so we can keep the the

[27:30] tempo going. Uh the next presentation,

[27:32] as they get ready, focuses on the indoor

[27:34] pool feasibility study. This work

[27:37] examines the need for indoor aquatic

[27:39] services in New Tecumseth and goes

[27:41] further by outlining a more

[27:42] comprehensive multi-use expansion at the

[27:44] NTRC that integrates recreation

[27:47] components, including a new gymnasium,

[27:49] walking track, an expanded wellness and

[27:51] fitness space, and some working

[27:53] amenities such as change rooms and

[27:55] program areas. This addition provides a

[27:57] systems-based approach for service

[27:59] delivery aligned with recommendations in

[28:01] the draft R plan.

[28:03] Staff have consistently heard residents

[28:05] express a desire for a true multi-use

[28:07] community center similar to neighboring

[28:09] municipalities. This work provides

[28:11] Council with the option to consider that

[28:13] type of integrated facility aligned with

[28:15] community needs and future growth. We'll

[28:17] now invite Anant Desai, principal

[28:19] planner with Monteith Brown Planning

[28:21] Consultants, to present and introduce

[28:23] his respective team.

[28:26] » Thank you, Director. Welcome. Go ahead,

[28:28] sir.

[28:29] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of

[28:30] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of

[28:30] Council. Appreciate you having me here

[28:32] as well.

[28:34] Joining me, you've already met

[28:35] virtually, Steve Langlois and John

[28:37] Frittenburg. They were also involved in

[28:40] the pool analysis

[28:42] in that report. Also in person with me

[28:45] today is Victor Ziolkowski from MJMA

[28:48] Architecture and Design. Uh They helped

[28:50] with the conceptualization and the the

[28:53] costing, the capital costing. So,

[28:56] um

[28:56] So, yeah. So, we have the we have the

[28:59] slide deck up.

[29:01] As you

[29:02] are

[29:03] probably well aware, the topic of indoor

[29:05] aquatics has been something that has

[29:07] been

[29:08] you know, discussed in this community

[29:09] for a number of years. The last master

[29:11] plan in 2018

[29:14] spoke to the need for an indoor aquatic

[29:16] center.

[29:17] The draft recreation culture and library

[29:21] action plan, the ARCLAP, was presented

[29:23] to council in May.

[29:26] And at that time we would have mentioned

[29:28] and rationalized the need for indoor

[29:31] aquatics in your community. This study

[29:34] really now takes it to the next level

[29:36] where where we have established the need

[29:39] and are providing council with

[29:41] information

[29:42] regarding what this could look like,

[29:44] where it could go, ultimately what it

[29:47] may cost to build and operate. That is

[29:49] the intent of today's

[29:51] presentation to you. And the report also

[29:53] delves into the types of programming.

[29:55] Do I click or you?

[29:57] Okay. Next slide, please.

[30:03] So,

[30:04] as part of the broader analysis,

[30:08] your a number of your area

[30:10] municipalities provide indoor aquatic

[30:12] centers.

[30:13] There are within roughly a 35-minute

[30:15] drive, there are eight municipally built

[30:19] pools. There are a handful of other

[30:23] um

[30:24] public or sorry, quasi public or private

[30:26] sector pools than Auto Saga. For

[30:28] example, the the CFB Borden base.

[30:32] Um and and what we do find is that

[30:34] again, just with the linear distribution

[30:36] of your community,

[30:38] folks in Alliston tend to travel perhaps

[30:42] maybe more to Innisfil to CFB Borden. Um

[30:45] Folks in Tottenham as we understand may

[30:47] head into King or Caledon, maybe

[30:49] Orangeville. Folks in Beeton BWG hop

[30:52] skip and a jump away I suppose from

[30:54] from from that location.

[30:56] Next slide please.

[30:58] But

[31:00] really you know one thing that we did

[31:01] hear

[31:02] from the community is that getting into

[31:05] some of those non-municipal pools, the

[31:07] pools operated by your neighbors or the

[31:09] private sector.

[31:11] There may be non-resident fees or the

[31:13] residents of those municipalities will

[31:15] have kind of first dibs for

[31:17] registration. So you know there are some

[31:19] you know

[31:20] barriers I suppose

[31:22] that that your residents may face in

[31:24] accessing the pools operated by other

[31:26] municipalities. When we look at the

[31:28] private sector pools they might not be

[31:30] of a size or configuration that are

[31:33] suitable for all the range of aquatic

[31:35] programs that your

[31:37] community is looking for. And so again

[31:39] as you will recall perhaps from

[31:42] the the presentation back in January

[31:45] for both the arc lab and the pool study

[31:49] indoor aquatics really was

[31:51] by far what we heard the most about in

[31:54] terms of a community need.

[31:56] May not be a surprise to you folks again

[31:58] but

[31:59] you know really

[32:00] they it was the most popular activity

[32:03] recreationally that they reported doing.

[32:05] It was their top request for a type of

[32:07] facility.

[32:08] But they were also again looking beyond

[32:11] the the traditional

[32:13] lane swimming and lessons but hey can we

[32:15] do aqua fit? Can we get into more warm

[32:18] water or leisure

[32:19] type of aquatic experiences. So

[32:22] those are some of the things that that

[32:23] we had heard. Next slide please.

[32:27] So we undertook having established the

[32:31] need for the aquatic center we started

[32:34] to do a site selection

[32:36] analysis and we started off and and

[32:39] looked at just for for all intents and

[32:42] purposes,

[32:43] municipally owned properties, properties

[32:45] that you already have in your

[32:47] possession.

[32:48] And there are 259 of those.

[32:51] We went through those and applied a

[32:54] screening

[32:55] criteria

[32:57] based approach where we were able to

[32:59] shortlist those 259

[33:02] into what we believed were five viable

[33:05] candidates

[33:06] distributed across the town of New

[33:08] Tecumseth.

[33:10] Three of those sites were in Alliston,

[33:12] one in Beeton, one in Tottenham. So the

[33:15] sites that you see up there being the

[33:18] the high school,

[33:19] the Banting Homestead,

[33:22] and then the NTRC here in Alliston. We

[33:24] looked at the JOC

[33:26] in in Beeton,

[33:28] the Joint Operations Center, sorry, as

[33:29] well as then the Tottenham Community and

[33:32] Fitness Center.

[33:33] Some of the criteria that we looked at

[33:36] was proximity to residential

[33:37] populations,

[33:39] distribution in relation to other

[33:41] municipal facilities and services and

[33:43] parks,

[33:44] as well as schools.

[33:45] We looked at the transportation network,

[33:47] that's an important piece.

[33:49] Compatibility with surrounding land

[33:51] uses, co-location potential,

[33:54] so that if there was an opportunity to

[33:56] again create one-stop shop, some

[33:58] economies of scale in operation as well.

[34:00] That was part of the equation.

[34:02] Site readiness and

[34:05] obviously if there were any

[34:06] encumbrances, physical, legislative, or

[34:09] otherwise.

[34:10] And after all that shook out, the NTRC

[34:13] was was emerged as the preferred site

[34:17] for the

[34:18] indoor aquatic center. Next slide,

[34:20] please.

[34:23] So some of the again, when we look at

[34:25] the pros and cons of of the NTRC, really

[34:28] we do see that

[34:30] you know, again, by having an existing

[34:33] community center in in place, you have

[34:35] the potential to tie in and

[34:38] again, you're not necessarily

[34:39] duplicating staff one-for-one. There's

[34:42] already going to be staff working there.

[34:43] There's already programming that's

[34:45] occurring out of that facility.

[34:48] The site itself,

[34:50] you know, there are portions that that

[34:51] appear to be readily developable. We've

[34:53] checked with your engineering staff,

[34:55] your planning staff as well for insight

[34:57] there.

[34:58] It is located along a you know, again,

[35:01] you know, with Industrial Parkway, it's

[35:02] it's connection to County Road 10. You

[35:05] know, that that's readily accessible in

[35:08] terms of your transportation network,

[35:10] but

[35:11] the links bus goes back goes by there at

[35:13] the moment right now. There is sidewalk

[35:15] connection. So,

[35:17] you know, one major major factor though

[35:19] that

[35:21] you know, was was

[35:23] apparent with the NTRC.

[35:25] It is a site that is located probably in

[35:28] proximity to the largest number of of of

[35:30] people of all the sites considered.

[35:34] You know, by virtue of being in the

[35:35] Alliston settlement area, but also

[35:38] again, you know, by virtue of County

[35:40] Road 10 and other road networks access

[35:43] to Beeton

[35:44] and maybe even Tottenham to a degree. We

[35:46] felt was was was

[35:49] satisfactory.

[35:51] And you know, again, just in terms of

[35:53] maybe the cons one might want to think

[35:55] about the limitations.

[35:57] Again, we think the benefits outweigh

[35:59] some of these limitations, but you know,

[36:01] really it is surrounded by industrial

[36:03] land uses on on three sides largely.

[36:07] Two sides I guess.

[36:10] If one were to expand that site, really

[36:13] a pool and some other components as

[36:15] we'll talk about in a moment,

[36:17] that would take that site largely to

[36:19] build out when you factor in parking.

[36:20] So, you know, after a pool and some

[36:22] other

[36:24] amenities,

[36:25] That kind of what you're going to have

[36:27] there. Uh and really there were just

[36:30] some architectural nuances that that we,

[36:32] you know, saw, but our architectural

[36:34] team, as you'll see in a moment, uh has

[36:37] uh we believe been able to to address

[36:39] some of those concerns. Next slide.

[36:42] Uh

[36:42] so the folks at MGMA

[36:46] did

[36:48] some test fits really to the to the

[36:51] north, south, and west of the existing

[36:54] building. Uh we were able to make all of

[36:56] them work, but what we've uh you know,

[36:59] established as you know, what we felt

[37:00] would be preferred

[37:02] uh was uh a westerly expansion uh really

[37:06] on the basis that that saves some space

[37:08] uh creates uh that

[37:10] uh spot in yellow as as a common

[37:12] circulation area. Was able to tie in a

[37:14] little nicely uh a little nicer to that

[37:16] lobby.

[37:17] Next slide, please.

[37:22] Um

[37:23] the site plan again this just takes it

[37:26] uh illustrates uh a little bit to in

[37:28] more detail uh in in plan view uh that

[37:30] that westerly expansion where you'll see

[37:33] the aquatic center. Uh you'll see a

[37:35] gymnasium that was brought forward to

[37:37] council again through the draft our

[37:39] clap. Uh a new and larger wellness

[37:42] center. So right now you do have a

[37:43] fitness space on the second floor

[37:46] uh of the NTRC. Uh a capital project

[37:49] like this would perhaps allow you to uh

[37:51] position that facility uh fitness

[37:53] facility to be provide an experience

[37:55] more uh akin to what you're experiencing

[37:58] in Tottenham.

[37:59] Uh and uh again as was talked about uh

[38:02] if if council were to, you know, support

[38:05] that indoor turf indoor dome,

[38:07] uh that that allows programming

[38:09] potentially to move out of uh the field

[38:11] house uh and and reallocate that uh

[38:13] space to another use. Next slide,

[38:15] please.

[38:18] Um so again really where we're

[38:21] continuing just show this in in

[38:22] different uh dimensions. Uh ball hockey

[38:25] is identified here largely on the basis

[38:28] that you know, we feel that you know,

[38:30] well, that that space, the field house,

[38:32] was originally designed to kind of arena

[38:34] uh dimensions. Um and so if uh if if the

[38:38] turf uh activities were to be moved, you

[38:41] know, ball hockey is is one option

[38:43] there. Again, I've spoken to the to the

[38:45] fitness uh and the gymnasium components.

[38:47] Next slide, please.

[38:51] Uh parking, you know, we we'd be at

[38:52] about 700 uh parking spots. You know,

[38:56] the expansion would occur on an existing

[38:58] parking lot, but we believe that

[39:00] additional parking could be added uh and

[39:03] does not result in any net loss uh I

[39:05] believe uh to what is there today.

[39:09] Next slide, please.

[39:12] So, the concept itself is uh is anchored

[39:15] by a 25-m eight-lane pool. We believe

[39:19] that positions you well for the future

[39:22] and and future growth.

[39:24] Um it's a multi-tank configuration. So,

[39:26] again, in addition to uh the more

[39:29] traditional uh uses that would occur in

[39:31] a rectangular pool, such as again, you

[39:34] know, lessons, aquatic sport, uh there

[39:36] is a leisure tank as well uh that would

[39:38] allow for again more warmer water

[39:41] experiences.

[39:42] Uh full-size gymnasium with storage uh

[39:45] and uh and again,

[39:47] um the opportunity to then

[39:50] uh reimagine that second floor

[39:53] uh and and renew the fitness experience.

[39:55] Uh those are all part of the uh of the

[39:58] proposed concept. Next uh slide, please.

[40:02] Um so, uh in addition to that uh concept

[40:06] uh that MJMA architecture uh and design

[40:09] had done, uh they prepared a capital

[40:11] cost estimate here. Again, they

[40:14] uh uh have been involved uh in a number

[40:16] of these projects. and so, you know, we

[40:18] we feel reasonably confident in these at

[40:21] about a class C level.

[40:23] Um whereby the

[40:25] uh the really after soft costs,

[40:29] contingencies, design fees, uh where

[40:32] we're looking at about $66.2 million

[40:35] uh

[40:36] associated with an aquatic center,

[40:38] gymnasium, and uh revitalized fitness

[40:41] center. Next slide, please.

[40:45] Uh the operating projections, again,

[40:47] this is where the JF Group provided a

[40:49] lot of insight. Uh you know, I I'm maybe

[40:53] it isn't common knowledge, but pools are

[40:55] not revenue positive uh facilities. Uh

[40:58] anyone that has a backyard pool uh

[40:59] probably knows that. Um but uh really

[41:02] the the prevailing thought is by

[41:04] providing access to

[41:06] uh you know, learn to swim,

[41:08] uh you know, sport, you know, some of

[41:10] these uh intrinsic benefits may offset

[41:14] uh in principle uh some of the financial

[41:16] costs. Uh but really the pool and the

[41:19] dry land components together uh have a

[41:22] projected revenue generation of $1.3

[41:25] million

[41:26] annually. Uh this is in current year

[41:28] dollars.

[41:29] Uh expenditures uh again, largely around

[41:32] staffing, uh but also pools are uh you

[41:35] know,

[41:36] intensive in terms of the utilities that

[41:38] they use. Uh you know, those those would

[41:40] be about $2.6 million.

[41:42] So, therefore, council could probably

[41:44] expect somewhere in the order of $1.3

[41:47] million

[41:48] uh annually from uh from an operational

[41:50] standpoint. Uh as uh you know, as um my

[41:54] colleague earlier said with the dome,

[41:56] potentially again, you know, there if if

[41:58] people see that value, that strong value

[42:00] in having a pool, a fitness center, a

[42:02] gym all together, that may help drive

[42:04] memberships. Uh so so again, the revenue

[42:06] side of things could change in in the

[42:08] future. Next slide, please.

[42:11] Uh we uh

[42:13] you know, looked at various models. A

[42:14] number again of those

[42:16] >> I'm sorry. Excuse me, sir. Can I just um

[42:18] » I'm sorry. Excuse me, sir. Can I just um

[42:18] I have to get you to speed it up a bit

[42:20] because in the interest of fairness, we

[42:21] only have so much time allotted, and we

[42:23] want to make sure we're fair across the

[42:24] board. So, thank you.

[42:26] >> Absolutely. This is I think the last

[42:27] » Absolutely. This is I think the last

[42:27] slide. So,

[42:29] um really uh

[42:30] we would recommend that uh the

[42:33] municipality operate the indoor aquatic

[42:35] facilities. Uh most of that that is

[42:37] common practice.

[42:39] And uh you know, we did talk to to

[42:41] others that that operate. The YMCA was

[42:43] was part of our our conversations, but

[42:46] really we do believe that um you know,

[42:48] the the the town would be the best uh

[42:51] positioned to operate this type of

[42:52] facility. Next slide, please.

[42:56] So, typically, you know, these are 4 to

[42:58] 5-year processes from the time we say,

[43:00] "Hey, do we need a pool?" to the time

[43:02] that a door opens. You're already kind

[43:04] of already, you know, we've established

[43:05] the need. We've looked at the

[43:07] feasibility. So, realistically, from the

[43:09] time, you know, council made a decision,

[43:12] uh probably, you know, 24 to 36 months

[43:16] or so,

[43:17] uh you know, after after the approvals

[43:19] are are received, uh one could expect uh

[43:21] that that to uh you know,

[43:25] be in place. Next slide.

[43:27] So,

[43:28] with that, uh thank you, council, for uh

[43:31] indulging me in the in the presentation.

[43:33] We'll be happy to respond to questions

[43:35] later on. Thank you.

[43:37] >> Thank you. I'm going to go back over to

[43:39] » Thank you. I'm going to go back over to

[43:39] Director Malts, please.

[43:48] » Thank you, Your Worship. Uh

[43:49] before we move on to the next

[43:51] presentation, I just wanted to chat

[43:52] about the field house for a second. Uh

[43:54] just wait for the

[43:55] rendering to go on the screen.

[43:59] As council is aware, the field house was

[44:01] originally designed with flexibility in

[44:02] mind. And as council considers the

[44:04] future indoor turf provision provision

[44:07] levels, there's an opportunity to

[44:08] reimagine the field house space to

[44:10] better meet the evolving community

[44:12] needs. The rendering before you

[44:14] illustrates that reimagined space,

[44:16] including the conversion of the field

[44:17] house into a ball hockey dry pad with

[44:20] the new concrete playing surface, full

[44:21] height dasher boards, spectator seating,

[44:24] and glazing. The glazing there is just

[44:26] for illustration purposes only. It could

[44:27] be moved easily.

[44:29] Staff have worked with the New Tecumseth

[44:30] Ball Hockey League throughout this

[44:31] process to ensure that the concept

[44:33] reflects their operational requirements

[44:35] and could possibly function as their

[44:37] primary facility for their programming.

[44:40] This approach demonstrates how we can

[44:41] maximize existing existing

[44:43] infrastructure while responding to

[44:45] identified longer-term service gaps, in

[44:47] particular with pickleball, and we can

[44:49] also accommodate roller derby while

[44:51] delivering a coordinated multi-use

[44:53] facility strategy.

[44:55] I'll now turn over to the next

[44:56] presentation. Um this that will focus on

[44:58] the Beeton Community Centre project.

[45:01] This work focuses on the re-

[45:02] redevelopment of the existing Beeton

[45:04] Memorial Arena site, which, as outlined

[45:07] in the report, is nearing the end of its

[45:08] useful life and no longer meets modern

[45:11] service and programming expectations.

[45:14] Through the study, three preliminary

[45:15] design options are being presented for

[45:17] council's consideration, each reflecting

[45:19] a different approach to balancing

[45:21] community space, recreation programming,

[45:23] and indoor ice provision levels on a

[45:25] constrained site. These include a single

[45:28] gymnasium community center model, a

[45:29] larger double gymnasium model and

[45:32] expanded with expanded program capacity,

[45:34] and an arena focus model that

[45:36] prioritizes maintaining indoor ice

[45:38] within the community.

[45:40] NHL ice is deliberately included in

[45:42] option three, as this is aligned with

[45:44] work previously undertaken. In addition,

[45:46] ice hockey user groups have

[45:48] overwhelmingly expressed support for an

[45:50] appropriate sized ice pad that will

[45:51] allow the the sport to grow and mature

[45:54] both in Beeton and beyond.

[45:56] At this stage, it's important to note

[45:57] staff are not seeking

[45:59] full approval [clears throat] on a

[46:00] preferred option.

[46:02] Rather, the purpose of this work is to

[46:03] seek council direction on a preferred

[46:05] facility approach which will allow the

[46:07] project to advance.

[46:09] Excuse me. [clears throat]

[46:10] It do further preliminary design,

[46:12] refinement of the program, and site

[46:14] layout in more detailed costing. It's

[46:16] important to note that the cost

[46:17] estimates presented today at this stage

[46:19] are preliminary and do not include soft

[46:21] costs, which will be addressed in future

[46:23] phases and analysis.

[46:25] It's also important to note that should

[46:26] council wish to approve this project in

[46:28] full tonight, staff are still able to

[46:30] complete the work and bring back any

[46:32] budget implications for council

[46:33] consideration. Pending feedback tonight,

[46:35] we would expect this would be in late

[46:37] July.

[46:38] I now invite Philip O'Sullivan,

[46:40] representing Perkins and Will as lead

[46:42] consultant, to introduce his team. Uh

[46:44] through you, Mayor, back to you.

[46:47] >> Thank you.

[46:49] So, I believe the presentation will be

[46:51] from over here, members of the public

[46:53] and those watching at home.

[46:54] So, go ahead, please, sir.

[46:57] And when your light comes up red, it

[46:58] means you're live.

[46:59] >> Yep.

[46:59] » Yep.

[47:00] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you,

[47:00] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you,

[47:00] Council. Thank you, Director Moses. We

[47:02] appreciate the opportunity to be here

[47:03] this evening and present our work. My

[47:05] name is Philip O'Sullivan, as Director

[47:06] Moses said. I'm an associate principal

[47:08] working in sports and recreation at

[47:10] Perkins and Will. I'm joined by

[47:11] Christina Grimes, a senior associate and

[47:13] designer at Perkins and Will, who is the

[47:15] designer of this project. She'll speak

[47:16] through the plans as we go through. As

[47:17] well as our industry colleague, John

[47:19] Hack from Sierra Planning and

[47:20] Management, who has helped us with the

[47:22] costing and business model relative to

[47:24] the options that you're going to see

[47:25] this evening.

[47:26] Next slide, please.

[47:30] As a brief project overview, Perkins and

[47:32] Will and Sierra Planning were were

[47:33] brought on in and around December 2025

[47:36] to undertake a feasibility study uh for

[47:38] a community center in and around the

[47:40] Beaton Memorial Arena, including the

[47:42] Beaton Memorial Arena. Um the the

[47:44] project is essentially broken up into

[47:45] two phases. One being site investigation

[47:48] and community engagement, and the second

[47:50] phase being conceptual design. It's

[47:51] supposed to be run kind of

[47:53] consecutively. Um there are are to be

[47:55] two two presentations to council. Today

[47:57] is the first one where as Director Moes

[47:59] noted, we're seeking direction on some

[48:00] of the options we're going to present

[48:02] this evening. Um and the feasibility

[48:03] study is intended to be complete again

[48:05] as Director Moes said in July of 2026.

[48:07] We have overlapped these phases for the

[48:09] interest of time and to be able to allow

[48:11] our process of community engagement to

[48:13] inform the design as opposed to having

[48:15] it happen in tandem, having it happen

[48:17] together. Um I sorry, in tandem. So that

[48:19] way we can make sure that we're it

[48:21] bringing that into our design thinking

[48:22] as we work through the process. Next

[48:23] slide, please.

[48:27] Our community engagement process took

[48:28] place on in in five different ways. We

[48:30] had an online community survey that was

[48:32] open for the duration of the other uh

[48:35] events I'm about to describe. We had

[48:37] pop-up events, three in-person pop-up

[48:39] events. Uh we also had public a public

[48:41] information session that took place at

[48:43] the town hall. We interviewed user

[48:45] groups and we also had council

[48:46] interviews.

[48:47] Uh so we started in July of 2020 uh

[48:49] pardon me, January of 2026 with council

[48:52] interviews where we met with council to

[48:53] understand the history and context of

[48:55] previous developments and thoughts

[48:57] around how the Beeton Memorial Arena had

[48:58] been thought of in the past from

[49:00] different councils and that was very

[49:02] helpful. Uh then we started to popu-

[49:04] have pop-up events and these pop-up

[49:06] events were for the public, open to the

[49:07] public. Um they happened in three

[49:09] different locations, the Tottenham

[49:11] Community Centre, uh the D.A. Jones

[49:13] Library and of course the Beeton

[49:14] Memorial Arena.

[49:15] Uh and those were focused on

[49:17] conversations with the community about

[49:19] program, what was desired, what wasn't

[49:21] being provided, what could be provided

[49:23] and really looking at how the any design

[49:26] for a new community centre in and around

[49:27] the Beeton Memorial Arena could be

[49:28] impacted by that need.

[49:30] Uh the public information session, that

[49:32] was the session that was held here at

[49:33] town hall. That was a session where we

[49:35] began to take all the information that

[49:36] we had heard uh from the community and

[49:38] from council itself and build in

[49:40] conceptual ideas about how the design

[49:42] could be reflected or placed on the

[49:44] site. And this was done so we could seek

[49:46] community input, have conversations and

[49:48] understand how the needs are being met

[49:49] or not being met and where we could have

[49:51] alternate revisions to um to make those

[49:54] meet the needs. And what you see tonight

[49:55] is a is a product of that. And then

[49:57] lastly, we had user group meetings. This

[49:59] was a specific user groups where we

[50:01] brought them to talk about the overall

[50:03] concepts, but also to talk about the

[50:06] existing context and how that the

[50:08] physical impacts or limitations of those

[50:10] spaces are impacting their business and

[50:11] how there was potential for future

[50:13] correction of that in new facilities.

[50:15] And it's worth noting at this point that

[50:16] and you can see in the images here

[50:18] that while we did in community

[50:20] engagement see quite a clear need for

[50:23] ice and want for ice and and emotional

[50:25] connection to ice, we also heard quite a

[50:27] bit of commentary about things that

[50:29] weren't offered, things like gym spaces,

[50:31] indoor walking tracks, availability for

[50:34] alternate sport, and ability to

[50:35] congregate and gather indoors.

[50:38] So, we thought that was quite useful in

[50:39] terms of helping us develop an initial

[50:41] program. Next slide, please.

[50:44] So, from all of that conversation with

[50:47] with the public, we developed a project

[50:49] vision and it reads like this. Shaped by

[50:51] community input and grounded in themes

[50:53] of community, place, and value, this

[50:55] project reimagines recreation in Beeton

[50:58] at a pivotal moment of growth. Building

[51:00] on the legacy of the Beeton Memorial

[51:01] Arena, this new community center will

[51:03] become a vibrant, inclusive hub that

[51:05] brings residents together, supports

[51:06] diverse needs, and strengthens

[51:08] connection and belonging. Centrally

[51:10] located, it will honor its role as a

[51:12] long-standing community anchor while

[51:13] serving future generations.

[51:16] Next slide, please.

[51:18] From the project vision, we created

[51:19] guiding principles. These are

[51:20] touchstones that we go back to during

[51:22] the design process up until this point

[51:24] and make sure that we're in alignment

[51:26] and and continuing to service the the

[51:28] the needs of the community. We again,

[51:31] community, place, and value were the

[51:32] three guiding principles that we we

[51:34] landed on and the New Beeton Community

[51:36] Centre will support in terms of

[51:37] community the evolving social, cultural,

[51:39] and recreation needs of the current and

[51:41] future residents of New Tecumseth.

[51:43] From a place perspective, the Beeton

[51:45] Community Centre will be thoughtfully

[51:47] rooted in its context, reflecting both

[51:49] its historic setting and its future

[51:51] potential as a modern, efficient

[51:53] recreation centre.

[51:54] And from the point of view of value, the

[51:56] centre will be designed to maximize

[51:57] long-term value in its construction,

[51:59] operation, and spatial efficiency.

[52:05] » [clears throat]

[52:05] >> So, the next series of diagrams will

[52:07] » So, the next series of diagrams will

[52:07] take a closer look at the BMA site. On

[52:11] this side, we have a perspective aerial

[52:13] view of the BMA site. It's a very

[52:15] prominent central site on Main Street

[52:18] within the Beeton Heritage District.

[52:21] It's been home to the Beeton Memorial

[52:22] Arena since 1947.

[52:25] So, the site's really served in

[52:26] generations of residents through

[52:28] skating, hockey, and a wide variety of

[52:31] community events. It's a very

[52:33] well-loved, active gathering place that

[52:36] the design of the new community centre

[52:38] and arena looks to build upon.

[52:41] Next slide.

[52:44] The site itself forms part of a broader

[52:46] ecological corridor linking Main Street

[52:48] to the Beeton Community Park north of

[52:50] Prospect Street.

[52:52] So, existing open green spaces kind of

[52:54] weave around the arena and existing

[52:56] parking areas,

[52:58] creating an informal but continuous

[53:00] landscape network.

[53:02] It's important to note that there is a

[53:04] natural water course that runs along the

[53:06] west edge of the site. So, for our

[53:09] preliminary site planning purposes, we

[53:11] have assumed about a 15-m setback from

[53:15] the top of bank of that water course as

[53:16] this site is under the Nottawasaga

[53:19] Valley Conservation Authority

[53:20] jurisdiction.

[53:22] Next slide.

[53:25] The new community centre design presents

[53:27] an opportunity to,

[53:29] you know, reimagine and better organize

[53:31] both indoor and outdoor amenities on the

[53:33] existing BMA site.

[53:35] By locating the new building along Main

[53:37] Street next to the library,

[53:39] a more direct connection from Main

[53:41] Street through the site to the Beaton

[53:44] Community Park can be established and

[53:46] that's kind of shown here in in the

[53:48] the red graphics.

[53:50] This space can become a linear

[53:52] multi-year use plaza

[53:55] serving not only as kind of a key

[53:57] pathway through the site but also as an

[53:59] arrival plaza, an informal gathering

[54:02] area, perhaps a reading garden next to

[54:04] the library

[54:06] populated with both seating and and

[54:09] landscaping.

[54:11] Next slide.

[54:13] And then lastly it's important to

[54:14] highlight that this site's located

[54:16] within the Beaton Heritage District. So

[54:18] the new community center design will

[54:20] draw from this context with careful

[54:22] attention to scale, rhythm, form and the

[54:26] predominant brick materiality to ensure

[54:28] the building kind of fits within that

[54:30] heritage streetscape.

[54:32] Next slide.

[54:36] So we're now going to walk through the

[54:38] three design options.

[54:41] We're calling them design options but

[54:43] they are essentially test fits, you

[54:45] know, they're they're trying to test

[54:46] different building areas and and the

[54:48] parking requirement on a site and

[54:50] regardless of which design is kind of

[54:52] selected to move forward with there

[54:54] would be much more design exploration

[54:56] that kind of continues on.

[54:59] So this is design option one, it's the

[55:01] single gymnasium model

[55:03] and it's the smallest of the three

[55:04] options.

[55:05] So that smaller community center

[55:07] footprint and the smaller parking

[55:09] requirement

[55:11] uh preserves about half of the site for

[55:13] open green space and maintains the

[55:16] existing splash pad and basketball court

[55:18] on site.

[55:19] This design does have space for the

[55:22] existing BMA to potentially remain on

[55:24] site if required and this has been

[55:27] analyzed as a possible scenario and will

[55:29] be described in more detail at the end

[55:30] of presentation by John Hack. In

[55:34] looking at the site plan on the here,

[55:37] it's important to note that there would

[55:38] be impacts to the parking efficiency if

[55:41] the BMA does remain,

[55:43] either reducing the amount of parking

[55:44] provided or increasing the parking area

[55:46] shown currently.

[55:48] Next slide.

[55:51] On this slide, we have the floor plans

[55:53] for the two building levels. Uh the

[55:54] ground floor is on the left and includes

[55:57] the single gymnasium and community hall

[55:59] programs with some support spaces, the

[56:01] building amen, and an entry lobby off of

[56:04] Main Street.

[56:06] The second floor on the right will have

[56:07] a couple of multi-purpose rooms and a

[56:09] walking track around the two-story

[56:11] gymnasium space.

[56:13] And then the community hall space on the

[56:15] ground floor would also be two stories.

[56:17] So, that kind of provides a nice general

[56:19] generous volume of space for a wide

[56:21] variety of community events.

[56:24] Next slide.

[56:27] And then here we have a hand sketch of

[56:28] how the new community center would

[56:30] integrate onto the Main Street

[56:31] streetscape. So, it's a very high-level

[56:33] sketch. It's not intended to be a

[56:35] design, but more of a representation of

[56:38] the scale of the building next to the

[56:39] library. Starting to imagine how a plaza

[56:41] space emerges between the building and

[56:43] the library, how building entries are

[56:46] identified, how brick, glass, and other

[56:48] materials could come together in a

[56:50] variety of expressions, and you'll see

[56:52] that represented both in this sketch in

[56:54] the sketches to come for the next design

[56:56] options.

[56:57] Next slide.

[56:59] >> [clears throat]

[57:00] » [clears throat]

[57:00] >> Design option two is the double

[57:02] » Design option two is the double

[57:02] gymnasium model. So, what's different

[57:04] here is it's larger than the first

[57:08] design option. So, instead of a single

[57:09] gym, it has a double gym with a much

[57:12] larger walking track around that

[57:14] gymnasium and some additional

[57:15] multi-purpose rooms.

[57:17] The building and parking lots here have

[57:19] kind of an offset bar design. So, this

[57:22] allows for a larger plaza space along

[57:24] Main Street in front of the building's

[57:26] main lobby space.

[57:28] The site is also showing the potential

[57:30] for an outdoor skating trail and covered

[57:32] ice rink. However, this program was

[57:34] identified as a separate cost from the

[57:36] overall construction costs

[57:38] of the building.

[57:40] And then again, technically the BMA

[57:42] could remain on site for this option.

[57:44] However, the site would be significantly

[57:46] impacted. There would be major impacts

[57:48] to parking capacity as well as

[57:50] significant complexities to the

[57:52] construction of the new facility.

[57:56] And next slide.

[57:59] So, you can see the

[58:01] um the two floor plans for this option

[58:04] here. Uh the ground floor is on the

[58:06] left-hand side has the double gymnasium,

[58:08] the community hall, a multi-purpose

[58:10] room, and some support spaces, and a

[58:12] generous lobby space off of Main Street.

[58:14] And then on level two on the right, you

[58:17] have a couple multi-purpose spaces as

[58:19] well as a large walking track around the

[58:21] two-story gymnasium. And again, that

[58:23] community hall space has been designed

[58:25] as a two-story space as well.

[58:28] Next slide.

[58:30] And here's another sketch just kind of

[58:32] showing the scale of the design along

[58:34] that Main Street streetscape and next to

[58:36] the library.

[58:38] Next slide.

[58:41] And then lastly, we have design option

[58:43] three. So, this is the arena option. And

[58:47] important to note that the ice surface

[58:49] designed here is an NHL-sized ice pad

[58:52] model.

[58:53] Um this is the largest uh building

[58:56] program of the three options and

[58:58] therefore will require the largest

[59:00] footprint of parking. So, you can see

[59:02] the building and the parking do take up

[59:04] um a big portion of the site. We're not

[59:06] able to maintain the existing basketball

[59:08] court, but the existing splash pad

[59:11] should be able to remain

[59:12] uh on site with the building and the

[59:14] parking requirements.

[59:16] Next slide.

[59:19] It's another two-story building. So, on

[59:20] the ground floor the left-hand side,

[59:22] we've got the ice rink with those

[59:25] support spaces. So, change room spaces,

[59:27] and back of house mechanical spaces,

[59:30] a small multi-purpose room, a reception

[59:32] desk admin space, and then a concession

[59:35] space that's kind of adjacent to that

[59:37] main lobby off of Main Street.

[59:39] Up on level two, you have a large

[59:41] generous walking track that wraps around

[59:44] the ice rink, as well as a viewing area.

[59:47] So, upper level viewing along the rink

[59:50] uh for great views down to the rink

[59:52] below. Another multi-purpose room.

[59:55] And then in this design, the community

[59:56] hall and and associated teaching kitchen

[59:59] are located up on level two, rather than

[1:00:02] the ground floor.

[1:00:03] Next slide.

[1:00:05] Again, just another sketch kind of

[1:00:07] showing what that feels like on Main

[1:00:09] Street next to the library um

[1:00:12] and just kind of imagining some of those

[1:00:14] um spaces in and around the building.

[1:00:18] Pass it over to John.

[1:00:25] » Um on the on the financial review side,

[1:00:28] it it's uh it's probably um

[1:00:30] better to view it as as a as a link to a

[1:00:32] funding strategy or the implications of

[1:00:35] one option over another. So,

[1:00:38] as you've seen, there are three options

[1:00:40] presented. And on the two options,

[1:00:42] options one and two that maintain the uh

[1:00:44] that that bring in a new community

[1:00:46] center, the options shown are that the

[1:00:48] BMA the the Memorial Arena is not

[1:00:51] retained. Recognition that it could be

[1:00:54] with some challenges. So, with that, the

[1:00:56] what I'm about to show for the balance

[1:00:58] of the slides is really to understand

[1:01:01] based on each of those options, um what

[1:01:04] is the what are the implications of of

[1:01:06] actually retaining the Memorial Arena on

[1:01:09] the side versus its

[1:01:11] its removal. And then of course, option

[1:01:13] three, which is the uh bringing in a new

[1:01:16] NHL-sized

[1:01:18] um arena with community hall space. That

[1:01:21] one is conceptually a little bit more

[1:01:22] straightforward

[1:01:24] in terms of the financial implications.

[1:01:26] So, next slide, please.

[1:01:29] So, just to get into it, and I hope I

[1:01:30] don't uh confuse people with uh with a

[1:01:33] lot of different boxes here, but

[1:01:35] uh for for the two options for the for

[1:01:38] the community centers, options one and

[1:01:40] options two,

[1:01:41] um there are really we've developed some

[1:01:44] financial scenarios uh to reflect what

[1:01:47] would happen if you kept the

[1:01:49] um Memorial Arena going for a period of

[1:01:52] time. What is that period of time is

[1:01:54] I'll I'll get to that. So, option A

[1:01:57] would be that you keep the BMA open

[1:02:00] until such time as there was a solution

[1:02:02] to replacing it with uh new, likely

[1:02:06] larger, twin pad, probably uh ice

[1:02:09] somewhere else within the municipality.

[1:02:12] The second scenario, B, is uh closing

[1:02:14] the BMA

[1:02:16] um

[1:02:16] uh for uh for construction of a new

[1:02:18] facility, and then uh

[1:02:21] having essentially to find ice

[1:02:23] elsewhere, or recognize there'd be a

[1:02:25] loss in service for a period of time.

[1:02:27] So, uh just to run it through very

[1:02:30] quickly, scenario A, it remains open

[1:02:32] until 2036.

[1:02:34] There are certain costs, obviously, to

[1:02:36] to look at in terms of the BMA going

[1:02:38] going operating costs, but also an

[1:02:41] increasing likelihood of significant

[1:02:43] capital costs.

[1:02:45] Um and then if you were to close the

[1:02:47] facility, then you avoid those costs,

[1:02:50] but you run into the challenge, of

[1:02:51] course, of not having

[1:02:53] enough uh space to be able to operate

[1:02:56] the facility both for the winter use

[1:02:58] and the uh the non-winter use as well.

[1:03:00] Next slide, please.

[1:03:03] So, what are we what are we actually

[1:03:05] looking at in terms of the timelines

[1:03:06] here? So, the the sort of foundational

[1:03:08] assumption of of what we're doing here

[1:03:10] and the information we're providing is

[1:03:11] essentially to give council uh a

[1:03:13] non-design perspective, a financial

[1:03:15] perspective on some of the issues Um is

[1:03:19] that we're assuming here that that by

[1:03:21] 2036 there would be investment made to

[1:03:25] produce new ice in the town as a result

[1:03:28] of the need for that

[1:03:30] and as laid out in the various um

[1:03:33] planning documents, recreation master

[1:03:35] plan in particular for that. So, that

[1:03:38] would be the the aim and if we were to

[1:03:41] commission if the if the work were

[1:03:43] commissioned very soon then obviously

[1:03:45] the redevelopment of the memorial site

[1:03:48] could happen

[1:03:49] you know as as near as 2030 or 2031. So,

[1:03:53] those are the timelines.

[1:03:55] >> Next slide, please.

[1:03:58] » So, I will do my best to simplify what

[1:04:01] we are looking at here but essentially

[1:04:04] just to recognize the options and so

[1:04:06] scenario 1A is to keep the BMA open and

[1:04:12] there are certain operating costs that

[1:04:14] come with that as well as caper capital

[1:04:16] costs.

[1:04:17] The buildings themselves

[1:04:20] Christina has laid out what they are.

[1:04:21] I'll just focus on again the

[1:04:24] the uh

[1:04:25] the costs associated with each. So, the

[1:04:28] the smaller community center

[1:04:30] in and around 24 million dollars in

[1:04:32] terms of construction cost.

[1:04:34] The second one about 40% higher in cost

[1:04:37] actually about 50% higher in space

[1:04:40] that's made available. So, there are

[1:04:41] some efficiencies there the bigger you

[1:04:43] go in a building.

[1:04:45] Uh

[1:04:45] relative to the cost there is an

[1:04:47] efficiency there and then scenario three

[1:04:49] a new NHL pad which is more than that

[1:04:51] it's got community hall space as well

[1:04:54] factored into it and some other rooms.

[1:04:56] You're in at around 44 million dollars

[1:04:58] in construction costs for that as well.

[1:05:00] I'll maybe come back in any questions to

[1:05:03] to fill out some of the details here but

[1:05:04] if you go to the next slide, please.

[1:05:11] Let's just focus on this and this is the

[1:05:13] last significant table for the

[1:05:15] presentation. So this actually gives

[1:05:18] some numbers here to what we're looking

[1:05:19] at so we can compare between the three

[1:05:21] options

[1:05:22] as it relates to the issue of whether

[1:05:24] you do or do not retain the Beaton

[1:05:27] Memorial Arena until such time and we're

[1:05:30] assuming about 2036 to be able to

[1:05:34] uh bring in new ice that would would

[1:05:36] replace what is lost if uh if option

[1:05:39] three

[1:05:40] uh for a new arena on site is not chosen

[1:05:43] and the options one and two are

[1:05:46] developed without retaining the arena.

[1:05:48] So option 1A capital cost as I'd

[1:05:51] mentioned around $24 million in

[1:05:53] construction cost.

[1:05:55] Because of the particular condition of

[1:05:57] the uh the Beaton Memorial owner uh

[1:06:00] Beaton Memorial Arena at this point uh

[1:06:03] existing capital cost estimates from a

[1:06:06] building condition assessment

[1:06:08] in uh what we're calling present value

[1:06:10] and so putting it in today's dollars it

[1:06:12] strings out to around 2036 or just after

[1:06:15] is about 15 15.6 million dollars. So

[1:06:17] call it 15 million. It's significant.

[1:06:20] Um the annual deficit is going to be

[1:06:22] true of any facility and in in fairness

[1:06:25] the

[1:06:26] option three uh for a brand new facility

[1:06:28] is going to have a higher operating

[1:06:30] deficit than the existing

[1:06:32] Memorial Arena. But just to put that on

[1:06:34] the page about $2.8 million. This is on

[1:06:37] the left hand column there for option

[1:06:39] 1A1. When you add that together the

[1:06:43] total

[1:06:44] um value of uh of costs in in present

[1:06:47] value terms is around $42.5 million.

[1:06:52] If you were to um

[1:06:55] close the arena

[1:06:57] um there looks there like there's a

[1:07:00] significant savings and there is there

[1:07:02] is that. Um the challenge though of

[1:07:04] course is that the unless a new facility

[1:07:06] to replace that

[1:07:08] is brought on board. So, to replace the

[1:07:10] lost ice and the lost summer use, then

[1:07:13] there's a there's a loss of service to

[1:07:15] the community.

[1:07:17] Um and that can be replaced by if you

[1:07:20] look under row down where it says D

[1:07:22] about four up from the bottom, the idea

[1:07:25] there is that you could purchase the

[1:07:26] municipality could look to try and

[1:07:28] purchase ice elsewhere

[1:07:30] and then provide that to the community

[1:07:32] at the subsidized rate. There's

[1:07:34] obviously a risk to do that and we don't

[1:07:36] have a position on whether that is

[1:07:38] more likely or less likely, but it is in

[1:07:40] theory something that could be could be

[1:07:42] done. But, the bottom line is that that

[1:07:45] comparison of 42 million versus the 27

[1:07:48] million is because there is uh there is

[1:07:50] essentially

[1:07:52] um the loss of the Beaton Memorial Arena

[1:07:54] and a decision has to be made as to

[1:07:55] whether you find ice from elsewhere or

[1:07:58] drop the level of service until they get

[1:07:59] a new pad.

[1:08:01] Really the same conversation for just to

[1:08:03] speed up here, the same conversation for

[1:08:06] scenario 2A and 2B. It's just a bigger

[1:08:08] set of numbers.

[1:08:10] Um and so there is a comparison there of

[1:08:12] 50, you know, 51.9 million versus 36.6

[1:08:16] million if you were to keep the Memorial

[1:08:18] Arena open until 2036 or close it and

[1:08:22] suffer the

[1:08:24] the issues that surround a loss of ice.

[1:08:27] And then of course, scenario three

[1:08:29] uh is one where the initial capital

[1:08:31] costs associated with the new arena that

[1:08:34] would be put on site is substantially

[1:08:36] higher than building a community center,

[1:08:39] but

[1:08:40] um what you don't have because you would

[1:08:42] be required in this in this design

[1:08:44] scenario to close the BMA as soon as

[1:08:47] you're starting construction. So, let's

[1:08:49] just say that happens tomorrow or

[1:08:51] beginning of next year, whenever the

[1:08:52] design is complete, uh you would have to

[1:08:55] find ice for a period during the

[1:08:58] construction period, uh let's say 3

[1:09:00] years, or you would have to

[1:09:02] um suffer the loss of of service that

[1:09:05] that happens knowing that you're

[1:09:06] bringing back a bigger, better facility

[1:09:10] in a few years time. But, you can see

[1:09:11] the numbers there that it it shows that

[1:09:15] there isn't the same level of cost

[1:09:17] because you're not maintaining the

[1:09:18] existing arena.

[1:09:19] So,

[1:09:21] I will leave it at that. I'm sure I've

[1:09:23] numbed everyone with numbers, but I'll

[1:09:24] be happy to go through any questions

[1:09:27] that you may have.

[1:09:34] » Thank you. I'm going to move on to

[1:09:36] capital projects financial impact

[1:09:38] assessment, and our presenter is Raj

[1:09:40] Narine.

[1:09:41] May I hand it over to you, Raj?

[1:10:13] » Good evening, Mayor Norcross and members

[1:10:15] of council.

[1:10:16] Um

[1:10:18] My name is Raj Narine, and the manager

[1:10:19] of financial services.

[1:10:21] Thank you for

[1:10:23] giving me the opportunity to present

[1:10:24] tonight.

[1:10:25] I will be presenting our financial

[1:10:27] impact assessment for the three projects

[1:10:30] that was discussed earlier, and it's the

[1:10:32] aquatic center, sports dome, and the

[1:10:35] community center.

[1:10:37] Um my

[1:10:38] assessment will focus mostly on the town

[1:10:41] debt debt capacity, and annual repayment

[1:10:44] limit, and the projected tax impact.

[1:10:47] So, this slide just give a brief

[1:10:49] overview of the

[1:10:51] aquatic center.

[1:10:52] It's expected to cost $70 million.

[1:10:55] Included in this amount is a

[1:10:58] $3.7 million for a ball ball hockey

[1:11:01] space. Um this project is expected to be

[1:11:05] fully debenture and um

[1:11:08] repayment of that is uh expected to be

[1:11:10] from taxation and DCs.

[1:11:13] Next slide, please.

[1:11:15] So, this is the sports dome um

[1:11:18] $10.5 million uh dollars

[1:11:20] expected to be fully debenture as well

[1:11:22] and um repayment of that to be funded

[1:11:25] from DCs and taxation.

[1:11:28] Next slide, please.

[1:11:30] And this is the Beeton Community Centre

[1:11:33] and all three options are presented

[1:11:35] here.

[1:11:36] And um when you go through back the cost

[1:11:38] the consultants just went through the

[1:11:39] cost, but it is expected uh all options

[1:11:42] are expected to be

[1:11:44] um fully debentured and um funded from

[1:11:48] DCs and taxation as well. Soft cost was

[1:11:51] not included in this model um because

[1:11:53] that was not included in the

[1:11:55] consultant's report.

[1:11:57] Next slide, please.

[1:12:00] Um before I move on to the numbers

[1:12:03] slide, just want to give you a little

[1:12:05] bit of a context on annual repayment

[1:12:07] limit or ARL.

[1:12:09] Um this is a provincial legislation. Um

[1:12:12] it is really how much um that the town

[1:12:15] is able to carry on its own source

[1:12:17] revenue.

[1:12:18] Um the limit is 25%

[1:12:21] uh that's the the threshold uh the

[1:12:23] legis- legislated limit. Um

[1:12:26] we can in order to be for me to be

[1:12:29] prudent and uh follow best practice, it

[1:12:32] is advisable to do um stay within 20% or

[1:12:37] or less.

[1:12:38] Um it's very important to to

[1:12:40] for the town to do that because it

[1:12:42] allows flexibility and help us to

[1:12:44] respond to any emergencies.

[1:12:47] Next slide, please.

[1:12:53] Um this slide shows a projection of um

[1:12:56] our a comparison of our annual repayment

[1:12:58] limit um for the period 2028 to 2035.

[1:13:04] Um the gray line represents um any

[1:13:07] current debt that we have

[1:13:08] and any

[1:13:10] commit- existing planned debts to 2035.

[1:13:14] And as you can see, it's uh it's within

[1:13:17] the range of 14 to 17% ARL, which is

[1:13:20] acceptable

[1:13:22] much lower than our 20% uh threshold.

[1:13:25] And if we factor in

[1:13:27] the three uh proposed recreation

[1:13:29] projects, then we're going to be um over

[1:13:33] uh

[1:13:34] over our 20% uh threshold, but below the

[1:13:37] 25% uh legislative limit. You can see

[1:13:40] it's peaked at offer option one at 22.6%

[1:13:44] and ranging to 23.9

[1:13:46] at option three.

[1:13:50] Next slide, please.

[1:13:53] So, um this slide uh gives a a

[1:13:57] several scenarios here. And the the

[1:14:00] column that I am to focus on is the

[1:14:02] funding relief. It's the very last

[1:14:04] column.

[1:14:04] And it is really how much money we will

[1:14:06] need upfront to stay to to put into any

[1:14:10] one of these combinations to stay within

[1:14:12] a 20% threshold.

[1:14:14] So, for example, the if we're going to

[1:14:16] go with the aquatic center and dome the

[1:14:19] and the Beaton Community Center option

[1:14:21] one, that will cost will need to inject

[1:14:23] 26 million upfront.

[1:14:25] Option two, it's on 33 and it's

[1:14:28] increases to further to 45 million

[1:14:31] dollars if we go with Beaton option

[1:14:33] three and the other two projects.

[1:14:36] Next slide, please.

[1:14:41] So, the the slide uh gives uh

[1:14:44] a picture of the um

[1:14:47] estimated tax rates in park in terms of

[1:14:50] pro projects per project. So, the

[1:14:53] aquatic and wellness center um is

[1:14:55] expected to be at a 4.59%

[1:14:58] um

[1:14:59] the dome is the lowest at 1.28 and the

[1:15:02] Beaton Community Center ranges from

[1:15:04] option one to 2.81% to option three at a

[1:15:07] 5.47%.

[1:15:11] Yeah.

[1:15:12] Next slide, please.

[1:15:15] So, this uh this slide um

[1:15:17] presented um

[1:15:20] the

[1:15:21] combination of um what the combination

[1:15:23] would be and what the how what what the

[1:15:26] tax burden uh per scenarios and also

[1:15:29] what the equivalent tax rate would be.

[1:15:32] So, in terms of dollars, if we go with

[1:15:34] the the two project with Beaton option

[1:15:35] one, we're looking at a 4.

[1:15:39] uh 1 million dollars, which is

[1:15:40] equivalent to an 8% tax increase. And uh

[1:15:44] option two with 4.79 and

[1:15:47] uh

[1:15:48] option three 5.45. That's tax burden

[1:15:51] equivalent to 11.35%

[1:15:53] tax rate increase.

[1:15:55] Next slide.

[1:15:57] And um I think this is my final slide um

[1:16:01] and this really is a combination of the

[1:16:04] other slides just to present it into one

[1:16:07] slide. And it's for each situation each

[1:16:10] scenario uh combination um

[1:16:12] we have the

[1:16:14] total levy burden, what that would be,

[1:16:16] the equivalent tax rate, and the funding

[1:16:18] relief

[1:16:19] um to stay within our 20% um

[1:16:23] ARL threshold.

[1:16:25] And uh that's it uh for my presentation

[1:16:28] this evening. Thank you for your time.

[1:16:30] Mayor and council.

[1:16:33] >> Thank you very much.

[1:16:35] » Thank you very much.

[1:16:35] So, now we're going to move on to our

[1:16:36] registered deputations.

[1:16:39] And up first we have Kelly Summers from

[1:16:40] South Simcoe United in reference to the

[1:16:43] sports dome. Kelly, would you like to

[1:16:44] come up to the microphone, please?

[1:16:47] Thank you and welcome.

[1:16:51] » Hi everybody. Hopefully everybody can

[1:16:52] hear me okay. Good evening, Mr. Mayor

[1:16:54] and members of council. Thank you for

[1:16:56] giving me the opportunity. My name is

[1:16:57] Kelly Summers and I am the secretary of

[1:16:59] the South Simcoe United FC board. I'm

[1:17:02] speaking today in support of the

[1:17:03] proposed sports dome project.

[1:17:05] SSU has experienced tremendous growth

[1:17:07] over the past 2 years, growing from

[1:17:09] approximately 2,400 active registered

[1:17:11] athletes to just under 4,000 today.

[1:17:14] This growth reflects the increased

[1:17:16] demand for youth sports and recreation

[1:17:18] opportunities across NewTec and the

[1:17:20] surrounding area.

[1:17:22] Beyond our athletes, SSU has built a

[1:17:24] much larger community of players,

[1:17:26] parents, guardians, coaches, volunteers,

[1:17:29] alumni, supporters, and local residents.

[1:17:32] Today, our club's community reaches

[1:17:33] close to 10,000 people.

[1:17:36] While this growth is something we're

[1:17:37] very proud of, it has also highlighted

[1:17:39] an important challenge. Our community's

[1:17:41] recreational infrastructure has just not

[1:17:43] kept pace with demand.

[1:17:45] For the first time in our club's

[1:17:46] history, growth is no longer limited by

[1:17:48] interest. It's limited by

[1:17:50] infrastructure. Children want to play,

[1:17:52] families want to participate, volunteers

[1:17:55] want to coach. The demand exists, but

[1:17:57] what we lack is the space to support it.

[1:18:00] This challenge is most evident during

[1:18:01] the winter months. Our athletes train at

[1:18:04] the NewTec Recreation Centre Fieldhouse,

[1:18:06] and we're grateful to have access to

[1:18:07] that facility, but it simply cannot

[1:18:09] accommodate the size of our program.

[1:18:12] The town's own report confirms that the

[1:18:14] facility operates at full capacity

[1:18:15] during prime hours, and SSU accounts for

[1:18:18] the majority of those bookings.

[1:18:20] Outside of scheduling limitations, the

[1:18:21] facility's playing surface is not

[1:18:23] representative of a true soccer pitch,

[1:18:25] and as a result, our players train in an

[1:18:27] environment that is considerably

[1:18:29] narrower and shorter than the fields

[1:18:31] that they compete on during the outdoor

[1:18:32] season. This impacts player development,

[1:18:35] tactical awareness, decision-making, and

[1:18:38] the ability to properly prepare athletes

[1:18:40] for higher levels of competition.

[1:18:42] Our coaches work very hard to overcome

[1:18:44] those limitations, but the reality is

[1:18:46] that the current facility was never

[1:18:47] designed to meet the needs of a club of

[1:18:49] our size.

[1:18:51] The proposed FIFA-size sports dome would

[1:18:52] address these challenges directly. It

[1:18:54] would provide year-round training and

[1:18:56] competition

[1:18:57] facility capable of supporting current

[1:18:59] demand and also accommodating future

[1:19:01] growth that the town's own studies have

[1:19:03] identified.

[1:19:04] In addition, the sports dome would help

[1:19:06] address the growing demand for

[1:19:07] year-round recreational space, providing

[1:19:09] opportunities for local sports

[1:19:11] organizations, schools, and community

[1:19:13] groups to expand their programming and

[1:19:15] better serve residents of all ages.

[1:19:17] Beyond meeting the current needs, the

[1:19:19] sports dome would create significant

[1:19:20] benefits for the broader community. It

[1:19:22] would create opportunities for local

[1:19:24] tournaments, attract visitors to our

[1:19:25] community, support local businesses, and

[1:19:28] provide those recreational

[1:19:29] opportunities.

[1:19:31] The sports dome would also position New

[1:19:33] Tec as a destination for regional and

[1:19:35] provincial sporting events. SSU's

[1:19:37] participation in the provincial indoor

[1:19:39] soccer league, along with other

[1:19:41] competitive programs and tournaments,

[1:19:42] creates opportunities that bring teams,

[1:19:44] players, coaches, and families from

[1:19:46] across Ontario into our community.

[1:19:48] These visitors support local

[1:19:50] restaurants, hotels, gas stations,

[1:19:52] shops, and businesses, while showcasing

[1:19:54] New Tecumseth as a vibrant and growing

[1:19:56] municipality.

[1:19:57] Beyond the economic benefits, hosting

[1:19:59] high-level competitions raises the

[1:20:01] profile of our town and provides local

[1:20:03] athletes with opportunities to compete

[1:20:05] and develop close to home.

[1:20:07] This project is not only an investment

[1:20:09] in recreation, it's an investment in

[1:20:10] economic development, community pride,

[1:20:13] and the reputation of our town across

[1:20:14] the province.

[1:20:16] Just as importantly, this project isn't

[1:20:17] simply about soccer. It's also about

[1:20:20] investing in youth development, health

[1:20:22] and wellness, community engagement, and

[1:20:24] the future growth of our town.

[1:20:25] Every hour spent on a field is an hour

[1:20:28] not spent in front of a screen.

[1:20:30] It's an hour spent about teamwork,

[1:20:32] discipline, leadership, resilience, and

[1:20:35] community. The Sports Dome isn't simply

[1:20:37] a building.

[1:20:38] It's an investment in thousands of young

[1:20:40] people and the values that we want them

[1:20:41] to carry into adulthood.

[1:20:43] As council considers this important

[1:20:45] decision, we respectfully ask that the

[1:20:46] needs of the community remain at the

[1:20:48] forefront. This project is bigger than

[1:20:50] anyone neighborhood, anyone ward, or any

[1:20:53] individual interest. It's about

[1:20:55] investing in the future of New Tecumseth

[1:20:58] so that our families, our youth, our

[1:20:59] residents have access to the facilities

[1:21:01] that they both need and deserve.

[1:21:04] We hope that when the vote is cast, the

[1:21:05] decision is guided not by short-term

[1:21:07] considerations, but by a long-term

[1:21:09] vision for our community as a whole. The

[1:21:12] responsibility of council is to serve

[1:21:13] all of New Tec. And we believe that this

[1:21:15] project represents an opportunity to

[1:21:17] make a lasting investment that will

[1:21:19] benefit residents for generations.

[1:21:21] 20 years from now, nobody's going to

[1:21:23] remember this meeting or the details of

[1:21:25] it. But, they will remember that we

[1:21:27] chose to invest in this community and

[1:21:29] its future. They'll remember whether New

[1:21:31] Tecumseth had the vision to build

[1:21:33] infrastructure to match our growing

[1:21:35] town.

[1:21:36] Tonight, you have the opportunity to

[1:21:37] make a decision that will positively

[1:21:39] impact thousands of families, strengthen

[1:21:41] our local economy, elevate the profile

[1:21:43] of New Tecumseth across Ontario, and

[1:21:45] leave a lasting legacy for future

[1:21:47] generations.

[1:21:48] We respectfully ask that you support the

[1:21:50] Sports Dome and help build the future

[1:21:52] that our community deserves.

[1:21:54] Thank you very much for giving me your

[1:21:55] time.

[1:21:56] >> Thank you.

[1:21:59] » Thank you.

[1:21:59] >> [applause]

[1:22:03] » I know how tough it is to come up and

[1:22:05] speak at a microphone in front of a lot

[1:22:07] of people. Um so, well done. Next is

[1:22:10] Carlo Carlucci, New Tecumseth Ball

[1:22:12] Hockey League.

[1:22:15] Or, no.

[1:22:21] You're on Mike, Carlo. You are on my

[1:22:22] list. Is that correct?

[1:22:25] Okay, thank you.

[1:22:29] » After that last speech, I think I want

[1:22:31] to convert to soccer from ball hockey.

[1:22:33] That was well done.

[1:22:38] Um

[1:22:39] I guess my understanding is

[1:22:40] we're going to have a little 5-minute

[1:22:41] video here.

[1:22:43] And I'll let you watch the video.

[1:22:45] Leave me a minute or two to talk.

[1:22:48] So

[1:22:49] without further ado, I guess

[1:22:52] can we queue it up?

[1:22:55] >> I'm sorry, Carl. Is that the video video

[1:22:57] » I'm sorry, Carl. Is that the video video

[1:22:57] from Bill?

[1:22:57] >> Yes.

[1:22:58] » Yes.

[1:22:58] >> Oh, sorry. We thought we could do two

[1:22:59] » Oh, sorry. We thought we could do two

[1:22:59] separate things but we can get that.

[1:23:01] >> Okay.

[1:23:02] » Okay.

[1:23:02] >> From Bill.

[1:23:05] » Madam, are we good to go or would you

[1:23:06] like to come back? We're good? Okay,

[1:23:09] thank you. Go ahead.

[1:23:24] » Welcome to today's explainer. We're

[1:23:26] unpacking a really fascinating

[1:23:32] municipal crossroads today. You know,

[1:23:34] town planning often forces residents

[1:23:35] into these tough compromises where

[1:23:37] community needs completely clash with

[1:23:39] strict budgets and limited space. But

[1:23:41] right now, one town's advocates are

[1:23:42] pushing back. We're impartially Beeton's

[1:23:45] current redevelopment proposal.

[1:23:57] » I'm going to let everybody kind of sort

[1:23:59] that out and what I'll do is I'll move

[1:24:00] on to Suzanne Howey and we'll come back,

[1:24:02] okay, once we figure out where we're at.

[1:24:05] Uh Suzanne, you wanted to speak in

[1:24:07] regards to the Renegade Derby Dames and

[1:24:08] the AMA.

[1:24:15] Welcome.

[1:24:16] >> First off, I'd like to thank council and

[1:24:19] » First off, I'd like to thank council and

[1:24:19] yourself, Mayor, and everyone in the

[1:24:20] community here to uh

[1:24:23] >> You're good to

[1:24:24] » You're good to

[1:24:24] >> Sorry. Uh first, thank you worship your

[1:24:26] » Sorry. Uh first, thank you worship your

[1:24:26] mayor and council and everyone who's

[1:24:27] come out to support sports in Alliston.

[1:24:31] Um

[1:24:32] the AMA has been the home of the

[1:24:33] Renegade Derby Dames since we began 15

[1:24:35] years ago and we understand the

[1:24:36] importance of small arenas in these

[1:24:38] communities.

[1:24:39] I've been an advocate for women's sports

[1:24:42] since I was 13 years old when I joined

[1:24:44] high school or high school rugby. I'm

[1:24:46] sorry. I'm not a really good public

[1:24:47] speaker, but I was the only one

[1:24:48] available. So, you stick with me.

[1:24:51] So, I joined uh rugby when I was 13

[1:24:53] years old and I played all through high

[1:24:55] school, university, and beyond. Uh since

[1:24:57] then, I have also raced dirt bikes

[1:24:59] competitively for 8 years winning

[1:25:00] several provincial championships and for

[1:25:02] the last 11 years, I have had the joy of

[1:25:05] being a member of RDD, Simcoe County's

[1:25:07] only women's flat track derby

[1:25:09] association accredited league. And for

[1:25:11] the last 4 years, I've been honored to

[1:25:13] be a coach for the Simcoe Junior Roller

[1:25:14] Derby League.

[1:25:16] For 12 months, I've been the main person

[1:25:18] in charge of organizing the bookings.

[1:25:20] So, I understand how busy these dry pads

[1:25:22] are. The AMA is the only dry pad in

[1:25:25] Simcoe County.

[1:25:26] It's the only one that's 12 months a

[1:25:27] year, no ice. So, ball hockey and us,

[1:25:31] we're fine in the summer when there's

[1:25:33] lots of dry pads, when Beeton is dry. Uh

[1:25:38] but we've definitely come together a

[1:25:39] couple times when our events have been

[1:25:41] back-to-back. Um and you know what? We

[1:25:44] understand

[1:25:46] the importance of these arenas.

[1:25:47] Just going to take you on a little tour

[1:25:49] of typical Thursday night at uh

[1:25:52] at the AMA.

[1:25:53] So, at 6:30, we arrive and the parking

[1:25:55] lot is full. There is a blood services

[1:25:58] mobile in the corner and lets us know

[1:26:00] that there's a blood drive going on

[1:26:01] upstairs. These happen about once every

[1:26:03] two or three months and community

[1:26:05] members come in and donate blood for all

[1:26:07] of us.

[1:26:08] Uh furthermore, some of those cars

[1:26:10] belong to our junior parents and a

[1:26:11] couple of our juniors because Simcoe

[1:26:13] Junior Roller Derby is open from open

[1:26:15] for kids 8 to 18 years old.

[1:26:19] Upon entering the arena, you're greeted

[1:26:20] by Alliston's history, two display

[1:26:22] cases, one that honors the athletic

[1:26:23] history and the other that honors the

[1:26:25] military history of this town. Rounding

[1:26:27] the corner on the right, you'll see a

[1:26:28] display case given to us, uh RDD, photos

[1:26:32] of past and present skaters representing

[1:26:33] Alliston, Ontario, and even Canada

[1:26:35] across the province, country, and

[1:26:37] continent. There are trophies from

[1:26:39] tournaments won in Southern Ontario,

[1:26:42] Northern Ontario, Quebec, and even West

[1:26:44] Virginia.

[1:26:45] And MVP awards donated from all of our

[1:26:48] members.

[1:26:50] The surface behind us, as I said, is

[1:26:51] occupied currently by Simcoe Junior

[1:26:53] Roller Derby. Open to kids 9 to 18, this

[1:26:56] league is the inheritor of the Alliston

[1:26:58] Junior Roller Derby League. This has

[1:27:00] skaters trying out for Team Ontario, and

[1:27:02] they travel across the province

[1:27:03] representing Alliston Athletics.

[1:27:05] Here I would love to tell you all the

[1:27:07] amazing stats about the benefits of

[1:27:09] sports for kids, especially girls,

[1:27:12] but we need to get ready. So, we

[1:27:13] continue on our way. We're greeted by

[1:27:15] one of by one of the amazing and helpful

[1:27:16] staff who lets us know that our room is

[1:27:18] ready. Since 2011, they've also given us

[1:27:21] a locker.

[1:27:23] That's where we keep all of our

[1:27:23] equipment. I get you some equipment, we

[1:27:25] get geared up, and at 7:00 we hit the

[1:27:27] surface our wheels sliding. You hear

[1:27:29] someone call out that it's kind of

[1:27:30] slippery and how it's so much easier to

[1:27:32] stop here than other arenas,

[1:27:34] like Tottenham.

[1:27:37] Throughout the 2 hours, time flies, and

[1:27:39] we make new friends, sweat in the June

[1:27:40] heat. You'll hear a veteran skater with

[1:27:42] an image of a Valkyrie on her chest talk

[1:27:44] about how back in the day before they

[1:27:45] added heat, we'd skate with oven mitts

[1:27:47] on our hands to stay warm, but since

[1:27:48] they've added heat, it's great.

[1:27:51] Even in the summer, we won't complain.

[1:27:53] Upstairs, the blood donor clinic is

[1:27:54] wrapping up, and curious donors and

[1:27:56] volunteers peek around the blinds to say

[1:27:58] to wave to us, and we wave back.

[1:28:00] At the end of the 2 hours, we go back to

[1:28:02] the change room, we get undressed. As we

[1:28:05] leave, we exit the same way we came in

[1:28:06] and pause for a moment in front of the

[1:28:07] ball hockey case. There's memorial cards

[1:28:10] for teenagers

[1:28:11] teenagers who were taken too young.

[1:28:16] But the moment

[1:28:17] stop from getting too sad.

[1:28:19] >> Oh, you know what? Absolutely fantastic.

[1:28:22] » Oh, you know what? Absolutely fantastic.

[1:28:22] >> Stop from getting too sad as a sharp

[1:28:23] » Stop from getting too sad as a sharp

[1:28:23] crack from a ball behind us hits the

[1:28:25] glass. It's 9:00 p.m. And there's still

[1:28:28] kids out there on the pad. Ball hockey

[1:28:29] is going in full swing.

[1:28:31] The Alcona Memorial Arena and other

[1:28:32] small community arenas are not vacant

[1:28:34] spaces to be repurposed. They're part of

[1:28:36] our living community. We need to

[1:28:37] protect, preserve, and continue them so

[1:28:40] that the generations coming after us in

[1:28:42] New Tecumseth have places to build

[1:28:43] community as we have. There were

[1:28:45] children learn community

[1:28:48] children learn confidence

[1:28:50] uh where teenagers find belonging and

[1:28:52] adults stay active, build friendships,

[1:28:54] and give back as coaches, volunteers,

[1:28:55] and mentors. These are the places where

[1:28:57] community community organizations

[1:28:59] gather, where local history is honored,

[1:29:01] and memories are made every day.

[1:29:03] When talking about the future of New

[1:29:04] Tecumseth, we often talk about growth,

[1:29:06] and yes, growth is very important, but

[1:29:08] it should not come at the expenses of

[1:29:10] these spaces that are so important to

[1:29:11] our kids and to ourselves. Thank you

[1:29:13] very much.

[1:29:14] >> Thank you very much.

[1:29:15] » Thank you very much.

[1:29:15] >> [applause]

[1:29:22] » It is really tough to get up in front of

[1:29:24] that microphone, I I tell you, and I

[1:29:27] applaud everybody that has the courage

[1:29:28] to do it. So, thank you.

[1:29:30] Moving on will be Russell Woodward from

[1:29:32] FAB Beeton Community Centre project, and

[1:29:34] I would just like to I know it's been

[1:29:37] said before, but just to reiterate, our

[1:29:39] deputations are a maximum of 7 minutes,

[1:29:42] and we do that out of fairness so that

[1:29:43] it spread equally across the board. So,

[1:29:45] Russell, come on up.

[1:29:47] Welcome.

[1:29:48] >> Thank you.

[1:29:53] Thank you, council, for taking my

[1:29:55] deputation. Uh not necessarily a user

[1:29:58] group. Uh we were an organ- organization

[1:30:02] uh

[1:30:03] started to raise money for the

[1:30:05] uh

[1:30:06] what we feel will be new community

[1:30:08] center with an ice pad

[1:30:11] back but 15 years ago. So, most of us

[1:30:14] were previous users

[1:30:17] uh and our thoughts were that if we

[1:30:19] hadn't raised some money or enough money

[1:30:22] that we could be ready when the time

[1:30:24] comes. So, that's all that's all we are.

[1:30:26] We we're here to promote, you know, the

[1:30:28] use of it, the the existing users. We we

[1:30:31] want it to be inclusive of the existing

[1:30:33] users. Plus, we want it to be

[1:30:35] functional, multi-purpose. There's a lot

[1:30:39] of, you know, a lot of variation for for

[1:30:41] new users and and like existing users as

[1:30:45] well. So, so I won't take up much time,

[1:30:47] but uh we're behind the project

[1:30:49] certainly. Uh

[1:30:50] you know, number three I would think is

[1:30:52] our is our goal. So, thank you for your

[1:30:55] time.

[1:30:56] >> No, thank

[1:30:58] » No, thank

[1:30:58] >> [applause]

[1:31:02] » Thank you, Russell. And I just want to

[1:31:04] point out to all the user groups and

[1:31:06] those watching at home, these are all

[1:31:07] volunteers who put in a tremendous

[1:31:09] amount of their time effort. So, thank

[1:31:11] you for even volunteering tonight again.

[1:31:14] So, we're going to move on and Abby

[1:31:16] Woodward, Beeton Athletic Association,

[1:31:18] the Cash Draw, which Councillor Mark

[1:31:20] Bitson but anyhow, just come on up.

[1:31:25] Sorry, Mark.

[1:31:29] Welcome, Abby.

[1:31:31] >> Thank you.

[1:31:33] » Thank you.

[1:31:33] Last time we talked was a very different

[1:31:35] conversation.

[1:31:37] >> [laughter and gasps]

[1:31:37] » [laughter and gasps]

[1:31:37] >> Good evening, Mayor Norcross and council

[1:31:39] » Good evening, Mayor Norcross and council

[1:31:39] members. Thank you for giving me the

[1:31:41] opportunity to speak. Um as you know, my

[1:31:43] name is Abby Woodward and I'm the Cash

[1:31:44] Draw chairperson with the Beeton

[1:31:46] Athletic Association and I'm speaking to

[1:31:48] you today on behalf of our event about

[1:31:50] the importance of preserving an indoor

[1:31:52] ice and floor pad in Beeton in future

[1:31:54] recreation development plans.

[1:31:56] Just this past weekend, the Beeton

[1:31:58] Athletic Association hosted the return

[1:32:00] of our Cash Draw fundraiser. With more

[1:32:02] than 1,100 attendees, along with dozens

[1:32:05] of volunteers, they came together for an

[1:32:07] event that not only made its triumphant

[1:32:09] resurgence after 7 years, but it was a

[1:32:11] sold-out success.

[1:32:14] The overwhelming support demonstrated

[1:32:15] not only the success of the event, but

[1:32:17] also the growing pride and engagement

[1:32:19] within our community.

[1:32:21] The Cash Draw is about far more than

[1:32:23] hockey. It brings together families,

[1:32:26] local businesses, volunteers, and

[1:32:28] community members from all walks of

[1:32:30] life.

[1:32:31] Many attendees have no prior or current

[1:32:33] connection to hockey. Some had children

[1:32:35] who played in Beeton more than 20 years

[1:32:37] ago. Yet, they came back to support the

[1:32:40] revival of a tradition that has been

[1:32:41] part of this community for generations.

[1:32:44] The event also provided a valuable

[1:32:46] opportunity for our youth. High school

[1:32:48] students earn community involvement

[1:32:50] hours through event preparation and

[1:32:51] volunteer work, with some students

[1:32:53] completing half of their required

[1:32:55] volunteer hours in just the days leading

[1:32:57] up to and during the event.

[1:32:59] These experiences teach leadership,

[1:33:01] responsibility, and community service,

[1:33:03] and instill a sense of pride in a way

[1:33:05] that cannot be replicated elsewhere.

[1:33:08] The impact of the event extended beyond

[1:33:10] a a single evening. Following the Cash

[1:33:12] Draw, leftover food and supplies were

[1:33:14] donated to Shift, My Sister's Place in

[1:33:16] Alliston, and Our Town Food Bank in

[1:33:18] Tottenham, because that is what

[1:33:20] community is all about. Coming together

[1:33:22] not only to support local sport, but

[1:33:24] also to support our neighbors and

[1:33:26] organizations that serve those in need.

[1:33:29] Most importantly, an event of this size

[1:33:31] is only possible because of the

[1:33:33] facilities we currently have. The arena

[1:33:35] floor and hall provide the space,

[1:33:37] accessibility, and separation needed to

[1:33:39] accommodate over a thousand people.

[1:33:42] A gymnasium simply cannot support an

[1:33:44] event of this scale. It lacks the

[1:33:46] capacity, the flexibility required to

[1:33:49] host an event like the Cash Draw, and it

[1:33:51] does not provide the separate spaces

[1:33:52] that allow all attendees to participate

[1:33:55] comfortably.

[1:33:57] The atmosphere inside the arena that

[1:33:58] night was incredible.

[1:34:00] Seeing our barn full again was a

[1:34:02] powerful reminder of what makes Beeton

[1:34:04] special.

[1:34:05] The spirit, energy, and sense of

[1:34:07] belonging were undeniable.

[1:34:10] Past and present Stingers families stood

[1:34:12] alongside residents who have never

[1:34:13] played or had children in hockey, all

[1:34:16] united by a desire to support local

[1:34:18] minor hockey in their community.

[1:34:20] >> [snorts]

[1:34:20] » [snorts]

[1:34:20] >> To remove an indoor ice and floor pad

[1:34:22] » To remove an indoor ice and floor pad

[1:34:22] from Beeton would not simply be the loss

[1:34:24] of a recreation facility. It would be

[1:34:26] the loss of a gathering place, a

[1:34:28] volunteer hub, a fundraising venue, and

[1:34:30] a cornerstone of community traditions

[1:34:32] that have been built over decades.

[1:34:35] It would be dismantling the very space

[1:34:37] that allows events like the Cash Draw to

[1:34:39] exist and thrive.

[1:34:41] It would mean the removal of the very

[1:34:43] heart of our community.

[1:34:45] I strongly urge council to recognize

[1:34:47] that design option three is the only

[1:34:49] adequate choice being proposed to you

[1:34:51] tonight.

[1:34:52] An arena is more than ice. It is where

[1:34:54] traditions are built, where young people

[1:34:56] learn to give back, where volunteers

[1:34:58] come together, and where a community

[1:35:00] gathers to celebrate what makes Beeton

[1:35:02] unique.

[1:35:03] To remove an indoor ice and floor pad

[1:35:05] from Beeton would not be planning for

[1:35:06] the future. It would be dismantling

[1:35:09] traditions that generations of residents

[1:35:11] worked tirelessly to build.

[1:35:13] Thank you.

[1:35:16] » [applause]

[1:35:24] » Thank

[1:35:26] Thank you, Abby. Next is Mark Shaw,

[1:35:28] Beeton Athletic Association, Beeton

[1:35:30] Stingers, for the Beeton Community

[1:35:31] Centre project.

[1:35:33] Welcome.

[1:35:35] >> Thank you. Good evening, Mayor Norcross,

[1:35:37] » Thank you. Good evening, Mayor Norcross,

[1:35:37] and members of council.

[1:35:38] I'm Mark Shaw, and I'm here tonight as

[1:35:39] the president of the Beeton Athletic

[1:35:41] Association, representing our executive

[1:35:43] and our membership. I want to thank you

[1:35:45] for the opportunity to speak with you

[1:35:46] tonight about the future of the Beeton

[1:35:48] Community Centre.

[1:35:50] Uh the Beeton Memorial Arena, as you've

[1:35:52] heard so far, is more than just a

[1:35:54] building.

[1:35:55] Uh, it's where our children come to

[1:35:56] play, where they come to learn. Uh,

[1:35:58] lifelong friendships are formed.

[1:36:01] Uh, it's where our volunteers spend

[1:36:02] countless hours giving back to our

[1:36:04] community.

[1:36:05] And it's where generations of families

[1:36:06] have gathered long before I was a member

[1:36:09] of this association.

[1:36:11] Uh, this past season saw one of our most

[1:36:13] successful seasons ever, bringing home

[1:36:15] seven championships across all of our

[1:36:18] age groups.

[1:36:19] It's a history that dates back over 75

[1:36:21] years.

[1:36:22] Uh, where the BAA has called the arena

[1:36:25] home,

[1:36:25] this arena our home.

[1:36:27] Uh, Beeton hockey in Beeton dates back

[1:36:29] even further than that to the late

[1:36:31] 1800s. The arena itself was built

[1:36:34] through the efforts of this community,

[1:36:35] and it stands as a testament to what

[1:36:37] local residents can accomplish when they

[1:36:39] come together around a shared vision.

[1:36:42] Today, council is considering what comes

[1:36:43] next. And for the BAA, that answer is

[1:36:46] clear. We support option three as the

[1:36:49] preferred path forward. It's the option

[1:36:51] that best represents the needs of our

[1:36:53] association and our community for the

[1:36:55] future.

[1:36:57] Since 2020, participation in BAA

[1:36:58] programs has increased by over 90%.

[1:37:02] For the upcoming season, registration

[1:37:03] rates have already surpassed last year's

[1:37:05] numbers, and we expect additional growth

[1:37:08] and additional teams

[1:37:09] in the future. This growth is not just

[1:37:11] unique to our association. Council and

[1:37:14] town staff have heard clearly that

[1:37:15] participation is growing in our

[1:37:17] community. And your own planning

[1:37:19] documents continue

[1:37:21] anticipate that continued growth for

[1:37:23] recreation services.

[1:37:25] We have seen firsthand what happens when

[1:37:27] the arena capacity is unavailable.

[1:37:29] During the temporary closure of the

[1:37:31] arena in 23-24, user groups were

[1:37:33] displaced and struggled to find

[1:37:35] sufficient ice within the town and

[1:37:37] private rentals. Existing capacity for

[1:37:39] prime ice is already stretched, and if

[1:37:42] demand exceeds supply, then it will

[1:37:44] continue

[1:37:45] uh be challenging as our population

[1:37:47] continues to grow.

[1:37:49] A replacement community center without

[1:37:50] an arena floor and ice pad does not

[1:37:53] replace the Beeton Memorial Arena. It

[1:37:55] removes a core component of recreation

[1:37:57] infrastructure and services that serve

[1:37:59] thousands of residents every year.

[1:38:01] The arena supports hockey, figure

[1:38:03] skating, public skating, adult leagues,

[1:38:05] school programs, tournaments, community

[1:38:07] events. It provides opportunities for

[1:38:09] children, families, seniors, and

[1:38:11] volunteers to be active and stay

[1:38:13] connected. Option three is the only

[1:38:15] option before council that maintains

[1:38:17] those services for future generations.

[1:38:19] It's critical community infrastructure.

[1:38:22] I would also respectfully suggest that

[1:38:24] the community has been discussing the

[1:38:26] replacement of this facility for a long

[1:38:28] time.

[1:38:29] Studies have been completed,

[1:38:31] uh consultations have been held, options

[1:38:33] have been reviewed, and many mem- many

[1:38:36] members of this community have

[1:38:37] participated in good faith in those

[1:38:39] discussions over many years.

[1:38:42] Uh over $300,000 has already been

[1:38:43] raised, which represents a commitment uh

[1:38:46] from this community.

[1:38:47] So, our position is clear. We're asking

[1:38:49] council to select option three. It is

[1:38:51] the only option that maintains an arena

[1:38:53] capacity and preserves the level of

[1:38:54] recreation service that residents of

[1:38:56] Beeton enjoy today,

[1:38:58] and that's necessary to sustain our

[1:39:00] organization.

[1:39:02] Option one and two are largely addressed

[1:39:03] by plans presented this evening,

[1:39:05] specifically the expansion of the NTRC.

[1:39:09] Second, if option three proceeds, we ask

[1:39:10] that local user groups be provided fair

[1:39:13] and equitable access to replace ice

[1:39:15] allocations during

[1:39:17] the renovation and the construction.

[1:39:19] We understand that these things take

[1:39:20] time, and we worked well together during

[1:39:22] the closure in '23-'24.

[1:39:25] I will say if, and that's a strong if,

[1:39:27] option three is not selected, uh we ask

[1:39:29] council

[1:39:31] uh to provide certainty to the

[1:39:33] community. We're requesting a clear

[1:39:35] timeline, funding strategy, and

[1:39:37] implementation plan for the replacement

[1:39:40] of arena capacity in Beeton.

[1:39:43] And given the investments

[1:39:45] uh that have been made over the last few

[1:39:46] years with the roof and the lighting and

[1:39:48] the uh chiller equipment of the BMA,

[1:39:51] we're asking that the existing Beeton

[1:39:52] Memorial Arena remain operational until

[1:39:55] replacement capacity is approved and

[1:39:56] scheduled for construction within the

[1:39:59] Beeton settlement boundary. Without a

[1:40:01] clear commitment,

[1:40:02] we risk this decision continuing to be

[1:40:04] delayed

[1:40:05] uh for future council members and future

[1:40:07] residents to to handle uh the challenge

[1:40:10] that we've been facing now for over 15

[1:40:11] years.

[1:40:12] The people of Beeton deserve that

[1:40:14] clarity.

[1:40:15] Um and uh

[1:40:17] and they deserve assurance that a

[1:40:19] replacement facility will be built by

[1:40:21] this community and remain a priority.

[1:40:24] Uh just last weekend, as you heard by

[1:40:25] Abby, 1,100 members of our community

[1:40:28] vol- and volunteers and sponsors uh

[1:40:30] attended our castra.

[1:40:32] The arena was full um

[1:40:33] >> [snorts]

[1:40:34] » [snorts]

[1:40:34] >> because this building continues to serve

[1:40:36] » because this building continues to serve

[1:40:36] as a gathering place and bring people

[1:40:37] together.

[1:40:38] Council has the opportunity to make a

[1:40:40] decision that will serve residents not

[1:40:42] just for the next few years, but for

[1:40:43] generations to come.

[1:40:45] So, on behalf of the Beeton Athletic

[1:40:46] Association and the families that we

[1:40:48] represent, I thank you for your time and

[1:40:50] your service to the community. Thank

[1:40:52] you.

[1:40:54] » [applause]

[1:41:02] » Thank you. Next on my list is Donna Horn

[1:41:04] from TNT Hockey.

[1:41:07] In regards to the Beeton Community

[1:41:08] Centre project. Welcome, Donna. You're

[1:41:10] all You're no stranger to being here.

[1:41:12] You're no stranger to being up here.

[1:41:15] >> Turn this on? There we go.

[1:41:17] » Turn this on? There we go.

[1:41:17] Okay, my focus tonight is ice. First of

[1:41:20] all, I'd like to say that uh all the

[1:41:23] deputations have been fantastic. Uh

[1:41:26] I think everybody has a lot of heart and

[1:41:28] passion for the community and for the

[1:41:31] youth.

[1:41:32] Um

[1:41:34] but because I'm president of TNT, I'm

[1:41:37] here about the ice.

[1:41:39] First of all, the Alliston Memorial

[1:41:41] Arena and the Beeton Memorial Arena

[1:41:43] should not be torn down or should be

[1:41:47] gotten rid of. The history

[1:41:49] behind both those facilities and um

[1:41:53] the hard work and dedication that went

[1:41:56] into build those facilities from the

[1:41:57] community, there's a lot of long-time

[1:42:01] families in the community and they

[1:42:04] remember when those things were built

[1:42:07] and what happened.

[1:42:08] Um both floors can be used for ball

[1:42:12] hockey. Uh

[1:42:14] they are being used now, but if you took

[1:42:16] the ice out of Beeton, it could be used

[1:42:18] full-time there, too.

[1:42:20] Um

[1:42:22] I was in Beeton a week or so ago and it

[1:42:25] looked great. It's been well looked

[1:42:28] after and maintained and yes, it is an

[1:42:31] old facility like Alliston, but they

[1:42:33] both look

[1:42:35] very good. And also the um

[1:42:38] the halls where people can rent for

[1:42:42] facilities for parties and stuff. We

[1:42:44] don't have any place in the town

[1:42:46] that

[1:42:47] we can do that. I realize we're the town

[1:42:50] of New Tecumseth, but each community, as

[1:42:54] you know,

[1:42:55] um take a lot of pride in their own

[1:42:58] community as well as the whole town.

[1:43:01] So, sometimes when we get talking about

[1:43:04] what we have to do, it doesn't always

[1:43:07] uh suit certain people or

[1:43:11] um

[1:43:12] maybe there's a misunderstanding.

[1:43:14] After listening to everything tonight,

[1:43:17] uh

[1:43:18] we're going to have a conflict with ice.

[1:43:21] There's no doubt about it.

[1:43:23] And if everything goes through that you

[1:43:26] guys are talking about,

[1:43:28] I would suggest that the third pad in

[1:43:32] New Tecumseth become the real third pad

[1:43:34] like it was intended to.

[1:43:36] And at least we would have that pad

[1:43:39] to continue on our hockey

[1:43:42] until you decide what you're going to do

[1:43:44] with Blenheim.

[1:43:46] I think the what they've proposed for

[1:43:48] Blenheim is is good and it saves the

[1:43:51] community and the heritage,

[1:43:54] but I think you should be looking at a

[1:43:56] new double pad for Blenheim out in one

[1:43:58] of the um

[1:44:00] new subdivisions.

[1:44:02] As everyone knows, a single pad loses

[1:44:04] money.

[1:44:05] A twin pad will run pretty much even and

[1:44:09] a third pad will make you money.

[1:44:11] So,

[1:44:13] just to replace Blenheim ice with

[1:44:16] another ice pad

[1:44:18] really doesn't help our ice situation.

[1:44:21] As uh stated here, we're growing,

[1:44:25] Blenheim's growing, girls hockey's

[1:44:27] growing.

[1:44:28] We're short of ice now, let alone

[1:44:31] take one of the pads out and you're

[1:44:33] talking about no ice until 2036.

[1:44:38] That just can't happen because

[1:44:41] we just won't be able to service the

[1:44:43] community. And as far as renting other

[1:44:45] ice,

[1:44:46] somebody should try and do that.

[1:44:52] » [applause]

[1:44:53] >> It's

[1:44:54] » It's

[1:44:54] it's impossible. We have other

[1:44:56] communities using our ice right now.

[1:44:59] Caledon, some of the other places. No,

[1:45:01] it's it's not feasible.

[1:45:04] We are short of ice now and you take out

[1:45:08] Blenheim and reconstruct it and you tell

[1:45:11] us we're not going to have ice till 30

[1:45:12] or 36,

[1:45:14] then you're going to have an awful lot

[1:45:16] of very upset kids out there, I'll tell

[1:45:19] you, because we're right to the borders

[1:45:21] now.

[1:45:22] And uh

[1:45:23] to suggest that we take a one of the ice

[1:45:26] pads out of uh

[1:45:28] commission just won't work.

[1:45:30] So, we have to take a really close look

[1:45:34] at how we're going to do it, when we're

[1:45:35] going to do it, what we're going to do

[1:45:37] to make sure that

[1:45:40] the community, the youth, and

[1:45:44] everyone else that uses the ice, I'm

[1:45:46] speaking for hockey, but there's all

[1:45:47] kinds of other ices

[1:45:49] uses

[1:45:50] will have the facilities they need.

[1:45:53] Um

[1:45:56] The other thing is the parking.

[1:45:59] At At New Glasgow Rec Center right now,

[1:46:03] if the Hornets are in the playoffs or if

[1:46:06] TNT's in the playoffs,

[1:46:09] the parking lot is full. They're parking

[1:46:11] out on the street. So, now you're going

[1:46:13] to put in a pool and these other

[1:46:15] facilities, and they said, "Well, we'll

[1:46:18] keep the parking the same." Well, that's

[1:46:21] not going to cut it. You're going to

[1:46:22] have people parking down the sides of

[1:46:24] the road, everywhere. And the same thing

[1:46:27] with Trenton. If you try and cram a

[1:46:29] whole bunch of stuff into that what's

[1:46:31] left in Trenton, where are they going to

[1:46:33] park?

[1:46:34] I mean, and I don't think building a

[1:46:37] twin pad

[1:46:39] in one of the new subdivisions is a bad

[1:46:42] thing. Some people say about walking.

[1:46:44] Well, when we built New Glasgow Rec

[1:46:47] Center, we were out in the middle of a

[1:46:48] field, and everybody worried about how

[1:46:51] the older people would get to the rink.

[1:46:53] They got to the rink, no problems. We

[1:46:56] provided some buses, we provided some

[1:46:58] shuttles, and now it's not even a

[1:47:01] question.

[1:47:03] So, um

[1:47:05] I hope that

[1:47:06] you take all the deputations

[1:47:09] seriously and you really think and talk

[1:47:13] to the user groups before you make any

[1:47:15] solid decisions. Thank you for your

[1:47:17] time.

[1:47:18] >> Thank you, Donna.

[1:47:19] » Thank you, Donna.

[1:47:19] >> [applause]

[1:47:25] » And then the last we had on our list was

[1:47:27] the presentation. Are we ready to go

[1:47:29] with that video?

[1:47:32] We are? Okay.

[1:47:35] Yeah, go ahead, please.

[1:47:45] » explainer. Because we are looking at a

[1:47:47] really fascinating strategic

[1:47:49] opportunity. We're talking about a

[1:47:50] single municipal renovation that

[1:47:53] perfectly bridges an immediate community

[1:47:55] need with a massive 20-year

[1:47:57] infrastructure vision. So, we're going

[1:47:59] to unpack the New Tecumseth Ball Hockey

[1:48:01] League's master plan and see exactly how

[1:48:04] one specific, really clever facility

[1:48:06] swap can basically secure two solid

[1:48:08] decades of community sports.

[1:48:10] Here is the agenda for our explainer

[1:48:12] today. We'll quickly run through the

[1:48:13] 20-year facility road map, the two-pad

[1:48:16] minimum policy, the NTRC renovation

[1:48:19] opportunity, the technical fit and

[1:48:20] timeline, and wrap up with securing

[1:48:23] immediate system stability. Let's get to

[1:48:25] it. All right, section one, the 20-year

[1:48:28] facility road map. Let's start with the

[1:48:30] macro-level view. So, we're looking at

[1:48:32] an official five-phase chronological

[1:48:34] plan that stretches all the way from

[1:48:36] 2026 to 2040. And the core mission here

[1:48:39] is a bit of a juggling act. The town has

[1:48:42] to maintain its seasonal recreational

[1:48:43] spaces, but at the same time,

[1:48:45] aggressively establish year-round dry

[1:48:47] pads. Because as older arenas start

[1:48:50] aging out of the system, this road map

[1:48:51] calculates exactly how to overlap those

[1:48:53] facility life cycles. The goal, making

[1:48:56] sure that thousands of local

[1:48:57] participants, families, and youth

[1:48:59] athletes literally never lose their

[1:49:01] place to play. And that brings us to

[1:49:03] this one, absolutely non-negotiable

[1:49:05] guiding principle. It anchors the whole

[1:49:07] 20-year road map. Never allow a facility

[1:49:10] transition to create a dry pad capacity

[1:49:12] deficit. It's a simple rule, right? But

[1:49:14] it dictates every single strategic move

[1:49:16] from here on out. You simply cannot tear

[1:49:18] down or repurpose an old facility until

[1:49:20] the new one is fully online and ready to

[1:49:22] go. It's all about protecting community

[1:49:24] assets and making sure residents never

[1:49:26] face a blackout period.

[1:49:27] Moving right along to section two, the

[1:49:30] two-pad minimum policy. This is the

[1:49:32] absolute baseline. Two is the magic

[1:49:35] number here. The paramount goal is to

[1:49:37] permanently guarantee a minimum of two

[1:49:39] full-time year-round dry pads across New

[1:49:42] Tecumseth. And this isn't just about

[1:49:44] keeping things the way they are today,

[1:49:45] it's about looking ahead. The town's

[1:49:47] official plan is forecasting a massive

[1:49:49] population surge, which is expected to

[1:49:51] peak between 2035 and 2040. So, locking

[1:49:54] in this two-pad minimum is really the

[1:49:55] only way to support current membership

[1:49:57] while absorbing all that explosive

[1:49:59] expected growth. Without it, the

[1:50:01] community's recreational system would

[1:50:02] completely buckle. Which brings us to

[1:50:04] section three, the NTRC renovation

[1:50:06] opportunity. Let's zoom in on a very

[1:50:08] practical solution.

[1:50:14] As part of the broader draft recreation,

[1:50:16] culture, and library action plan, a

[1:50:18] really concrete, immediate opportunity

[1:50:20] has popped up. There's a proposal to

[1:50:22] renovate the current New Tecumseth

[1:50:23] Recreation Centre, the NTRC Fieldhouse.

[1:50:26] Now, right now, local soccer programs

[1:50:28] use this space year-round, but the idea

[1:50:30] is to fundamentally rebuild this space

[1:50:31] to perfectly suit the specific needs of

[1:50:33] a dedicated year-round ball hockey

[1:50:35] facility. It's a super targeted

[1:50:36] repurposing of an existing municipal

[1:50:38] footprint, which is incredibly smart.

[1:50:40] It's way more efficient than building a

[1:50:41] brand new facility from scratch, it

[1:50:43] saves a ton of time, and it makes great

[1:50:44] use of taxpayer funds.

[1:50:46] Okay, section four, technical fit and

[1:50:48] timeline. Let's look at the actual

[1:50:50] logistics of making this happen. So, the

[1:50:52] league actively reviewed the preliminary

[1:50:54] concepts for this space, and they

[1:50:55] confirmed it is a perfect fit. The

[1:50:58] absolute standout feature, it operates

[1:51:00] in a climate-controlled environment.

[1:51:02] That is a massive upgrade for year-round

[1:51:04] play. Beyond that, the site has

[1:51:06] fantastic parking, and critically, it's

[1:51:08] really close to the existing Alliston

[1:51:10] Memorial Arena, the AMA. Having those

[1:51:13] two facilities in such close proximity

[1:51:15] makes it the ultimate primary hub for

[1:51:17] running large regional tournaments. It's

[1:51:19] a strategic game-changer.

[1:51:21] But, here is the real strategic

[1:51:23] masterstroke when presenting this to

[1:51:25] council. This ball hockey facility is

[1:51:27] framed entirely as an independent

[1:51:29] initiative. That is absolutely crucial.

[1:51:31] It means it doesn't have to get bogged

[1:51:33] down by the massive budget debates or

[1:51:34] the super long timelines of the broader

[1:51:36] aquatic and wellness center project.

[1:51:38] Advancing it separately means we can

[1:51:40] deliver it to the community much, much

[1:51:42] earlier. It's a highly efficient, very

[1:51:44] quick win for the town.

[1:51:46] To actually pull this off though, we

[1:51:47] have to follow a very clear domino

[1:51:49] effect. As perfect as the NTRC

[1:51:51] Fieldhouse is, you obviously can't just

[1:51:53] kick soccer out. The whole timeline

[1:51:55] hinges on a new sports dome being built

[1:51:57] first. So, step one, council constructs

[1:51:59] the dome, which takes roughly 12 to 18

[1:52:01] months. Step two, soccer seamlessly

[1:52:04] relocates over to their brand new home.

[1:52:06] And finally, step three, that newly

[1:52:07] vacant fieldhouse is converted into the

[1:52:09] ball hockey hub over the next 6 to 12

[1:52:11] months. It's a beautifully orchestrated

[1:52:13] shuffle that maximizes the town's space

[1:52:15] without displacing anybody. Finally,

[1:52:17] section five, securing immediate system

[1:52:20] stability. Let's zoom back out and look

[1:52:22] at the big picture. By acting on the

[1:52:24] NTRC right now, the town is basically

[1:52:26] building an immediate operational safety

[1:52:28] net.

[1:52:29] You secure the near term by running the

[1:52:31] newly renovated NTRC right alongside the

[1:52:33] aging, but still essential, Alliston

[1:52:35] Memorial Arena.

[1:52:37] That locks in the required two pads

[1:52:38] today.

[1:52:39] It absorbs all that immediate pressure,

[1:52:41] which means the much more complex

[1:52:43] long-term vision, like building the

[1:52:45] brand new Beeton Community Centre, can

[1:52:46] proceed completely safely on its own

[1:52:48] separate timeline without holding the

[1:52:50] entire league hostage. Because this

[1:52:52] single pragmatic move triggers a massive

[1:52:54] systemic impact. The master plan

[1:52:56] actually reveals that in 2029, active

[1:52:59] construction in Beeton is going to

[1:53:01] create a total blackout year where no

[1:53:03] pad is available there. If the NTRC

[1:53:05] isn't fully online by then, the whole

[1:53:07] system essentially collapses into a

[1:53:09] massive capacity deficit. Getting the

[1:53:11] NTRC done before 2029 completely

[1:53:14] prevents that blackout. It ensures

[1:53:16] thousands of locals aren't displaced,

[1:53:17] and it saves the town from having to

[1:53:19] make rushed, panicked compromises later

[1:53:21] on. It's just really smart, proactive

[1:53:23] planning. And that leaves us with a

[1:53:25] pretty compelling question as we wrap up

[1:53:27] today's explainer. In the complex world

[1:53:29] of municipal planning, we are always

[1:53:31] looking for that one domino that sets

[1:53:33] everything else up for success, right?

[1:53:36] So, is securing this functional,

[1:53:38] climate-controlled NTRC solution today

[1:53:40] the exact step needed to confidently

[1:53:42] unlock the entire, ambitious 20-year

[1:53:45] road map? When you really look at the

[1:53:46] efficiency, the demographics, and the

[1:53:48] timeline, it certainly seems like this

[1:53:50] single renovation is the keystone to the

[1:53:52] whole puzzle. What do you think? Thanks

[1:53:54] for joining me on this deep dive. I hope

[1:53:55] this gave you a crystal-clear

[1:53:57] understanding of the blueprint for New

[1:53:58] Takoma Park's recreational future.

[1:54:06] » And if anybody doesn't If anybody

[1:54:08] doesn't realize whose voice that was, it

[1:54:09] was Carlo.

[1:54:11] Also, Carlo, you've got a minute left on

[1:54:12] your presentation if you'd like to go

[1:54:13] ahead.

[1:54:16] » Uh in support of having the soccer dome

[1:54:19] created in order to move

[1:54:21] um over to the field house in order to

[1:54:23] open up

[1:54:24] what we've always wanted, which is a

[1:54:25] dedicated ball hockey rink. And as

[1:54:27] mentioned, climate-controlled, but the

[1:54:29] thing that wasn't mentioned, and most

[1:54:31] importantly to us, is we can control the

[1:54:33] size of the pad,

[1:54:35] which has always been an ongoing battle

[1:54:37] with the situation in Wheaton and the

[1:54:39] ice hockey rink.

[1:54:40] So, that alleviates that concern.

[1:54:42] I think you're going to appease the two

[1:54:44] largest membership groups. Soccer's

[1:54:46] already mentioned 3,900 members.

[1:54:49] I have 1,800 members, but we operate

[1:54:51] year-round, so it's really about 4,000

[1:54:52] registrations during a year.

[1:54:54] So, I think uh financially, it's the two

[1:54:58] probably

[1:54:59] uh least expensive expenses for the town

[1:55:02] by uh doing these two things

[1:55:05] and appeasing the two biggest user

[1:55:07] groups. And the last thing,

[1:55:09] a reminder, when it comes to our user

[1:55:11] group and our sport,

[1:55:13] 95% of the residents that are on the

[1:55:15] floor are from New Tecumseth,

[1:55:18] not from outside.

[1:55:20] That's it. Thank you.

[1:55:21] >> Thank you very much.

[1:55:23] » Thank you very much.

[1:55:23] >> [applause]

[1:55:27] » Okay, I now have 6:53. I'm going to

[1:55:29] adjourn till 7:00 cuz I I know we we got

[1:55:32] to move on to the next section we have

[1:55:33] to discuss, debate, and make a decision.

[1:55:35] So, the bathrooms are right out here in

[1:55:37] the hallways. If anybody would like to

[1:55:39] use them, just go around the corner, and

[1:55:41] I would ask for everybody to back at

[1:55:42] 7:00, please.

[1:58:54] » Mhm.

[2:09:16] » is yours, so go ahead, sir.

[2:09:19] Or I'm not sure how it

[2:09:21] Go look at the clerk, please.

[2:09:23] >> Okay.

[2:09:25] » Okay.

[2:09:25] >> There you go.

[2:09:26] » There you go.

[2:09:26] >> Hi, I'm Bill Houston. Thank you, uh, Mr.

[2:09:29] » Hi, I'm Bill Houston. Thank you, uh, Mr.

[2:09:29] Mayor and Council. Got a quick little

[2:09:31] video here to spin for you, which view,

[2:09:33] um,

[2:09:34] share our viewpoint from New Tec Ball

[2:09:36] Hockey and also myself, uh, being a

[2:09:39] resident of Beeton and the rest of the

[2:09:41] community.

[2:09:42] Thank you.

[2:09:43] >> Welcome to today's explainer. We're

[2:09:45] » Welcome to today's explainer. We're

[2:09:45] unpacking a really fascinating municipal

[2:09:47] crossroads today. You know, town

[2:09:49] planning often forces residents into

[2:09:51] these tough compromises, where community

[2:09:54] needs completely clash with strict

[2:09:55] budgets and limited space. But right

[2:09:57] now, one town's advocates are pushing

[2:10:00] back.

[2:10:01] We're impartially analyzing Beeton's

[2:10:02] current redevelopment proposals for

[2:10:04] their aging arena, putting them side by

[2:10:06] side with a paradigm-shifting new

[2:10:08] proposal from local sports

[2:10:09] organizations. They're aiming to prove

[2:10:12] that, well, you just don't always have

[2:10:13] to choose.

[2:10:15] Here's our road map. We'll briefly

[2:10:17] examine the Beeton recreation dilemma,

[2:10:19] evaluate the town's current proposals,

[2:10:21] introduce the highly anticipated fourth

[2:10:23] option, explore its multi-use features,

[2:10:25] and finally break down the strategic

[2:10:27] investment. All right, let's jump right

[2:10:30] into part one, the Beaton Recreation

[2:10:32] Dilemma.

[2:10:34] So, the urgent context here centers

[2:10:36] around the Beaton Memorial Arena. Built

[2:10:38] way back in 1947, it's officially

[2:10:41] nearing the end of its useful life.

[2:10:43] Recent structural failures actually

[2:10:45] forced the town into short-term

[2:10:46] stabilization mode, so doing nothing is

[2:10:48] absolutely impossible at this point.

[2:10:50] But, residents feel trapped in a deeply

[2:10:52] frustrating false dilemma. The town's

[2:10:55] initial options left the community

[2:10:56] feeling completely cornered, asked to

[2:10:58] choose between a community center

[2:11:00] without a sports rink or a single-use

[2:11:02] arena without community gathering

[2:11:03] spaces. This either/or scenario really

[2:11:06] threatens to fracture the town, forcing

[2:11:08] neighbors to essentially pit youth

[2:11:09] sports against seniors programs. Nobody

[2:11:12] wants to see that happen.

[2:11:14] Moving on to part two, let's evaluate

[2:11:16] the current options on the table. Let's

[2:11:18] start by deconstructing

[2:11:20] options one and two. Now, while these

[2:11:22] models do provide gymnasiums, local

[2:11:24] advocates point out a really glaring

[2:11:26] gap. They entirely abandon the town's

[2:11:28] massive ball hockey and winter ice

[2:11:30] community by ditching a new rink.

[2:11:33] To compensate, documents show the town

[2:11:35] might try to temporarily keep the old

[2:11:37] failing arena open. But, and this is a

[2:11:39] huge but, that strategy hides a shocking

[2:11:42] $15.7 million capital cost over the next

[2:11:45] 10 years. It's literally like pouring

[2:11:47] millions into a totaled car just to keep

[2:11:49] it running for a few more miles. It's an

[2:11:50] incredibly unsustainable financial drain

[2:11:53] just to keep the lights on in a building

[2:11:54] that's past its prime. So, to avoid that

[2:11:56] trap, the town considered option three.

[2:11:59] It protects a rink, but it comes at a

[2:12:01] massive cost. It relies on an oversized

[2:12:04] NHL-style model sprawling across 59,600

[2:12:07] square feet, carrying a staggering

[2:12:09] $43.864

[2:12:11] million price tag. Advocates argue it's

[2:12:13] an absolute space hog.

[2:12:15] Dropping this massive footprint onto the

[2:12:17] property almost entirely cannibalizes

[2:12:19] the much-needed gymnasium, youth areas,

[2:12:21] and meeting rooms. So, it solves the

[2:12:24] rink problem on paper, sure, but it

[2:12:26] totally ignores the broader community

[2:12:27] hub needs, forcing that frustrating

[2:12:29] either/or compromise we just talked

[2:12:31] about.

[2:12:32] That brings us to section three,

[2:12:34] introducing the fourth option. Because

[2:12:37] residents felt cornered by those

[2:12:38] choices, local sports organizations

[2:12:40] stepped up with an alternative. They

[2:12:42] proposed a 55,000 square-foot hybrid

[2:12:44] community center to prove the town can

[2:12:46] build smarter, not just bigger. The

[2:12:49] defining feature is a brilliant piece of

[2:12:51] engineering. They shrank the rink.

[2:12:53] Instead of forcing a massive NHL pad

[2:12:55] into the design, this proposal relies on

[2:12:57] a highly efficient 77-x-177

[2:12:59] foot multi-use pad. This ball hockey

[2:13:02] first design fully supports elite

[2:13:04] development while remaining completely

[2:13:05] compatible with winter ice. It's a

[2:13:07] really strategic engineering solution

[2:13:09] that proves you can do more with less,

[2:13:11] optimizing the footprint without

[2:13:12] sacrificing an ounce of actual function.

[2:13:15] Which leads us straight into part four,

[2:13:18] a true multi-use hub. By right-sizing

[2:13:21] that rink, the floor plan acts like a

[2:13:23] clever puzzle, perfectly snapping

[2:13:25] together. Because the rink takes less

[2:13:27] space, the fourth option seamlessly

[2:13:29] integrates comprehensive features within

[2:13:31] the exact same footprint. Just picture

[2:13:33] walking in. Right alongside the ice, you

[2:13:35] have a peripheral walking track, a

[2:13:37] dedicated fitness center, and a full

[2:13:38] gymnasium for sports like pickleball and

[2:13:40] basketball. It beautifully balances ice

[2:13:43] and dry floor recreation all under one

[2:13:45] roof, protecting those exact community

[2:13:47] elements that option three would have

[2:13:48] completely cannibalized.

[2:13:50] And this translates directly into broad

[2:13:52] community impact. Serving over 4,000 dry

[2:13:55] pad users isn't just a metric on a

[2:13:57] spreadsheet. It transitions this whole

[2:13:59] project into a true multi-generational

[2:14:01] gathering place.

[2:14:03] By creating flexible community rooms and

[2:14:05] diverse athletic spaces, the facility

[2:14:07] meets the needs of youth, families, and

[2:14:09] seniors all at once. It keeps the entire

[2:14:11] community fully connected. It ensures a

[2:14:13] grandparent walking the track can be in

[2:14:15] the same building at the exact same time

[2:14:17] as a teenager practicing ball hockey.

[2:14:19] Honestly, it's a real game-changer.

[2:14:22] Now, let's look at part five, the

[2:14:23] strategic investment. We've got to

[2:14:25] transition to the hard numbers here

[2:14:27] because advocates argue this fourth

[2:14:29] option is a highly strategic financial

[2:14:31] decision for taxpayers. Just consider

[2:14:33] the massive cost of option three,

[2:14:35] $43.864

[2:14:37] million for an oversized arena. Now,

[2:14:39] compare that to the alternative. The

[2:14:41] construction estimate for the fully

[2:14:43] integrated fourth option is just $40.975

[2:14:46] million. That's

[2:14:47] Let's really drive home the ultimate

[2:14:49] closing argument here. This fourth

[2:14:50] option is $2.9 million cheaper than

[2:14:53] option three. That massive savings buys

[2:14:56] the town significantly more value.

[2:14:58] That's enough extra budget to completely

[2:15:00] secure the hub features, the walking

[2:15:02] track, the fitness center, the gym, and

[2:15:04] the meeting rooms. It's pitched as a

[2:15:05] balanced, forward-looking model. It

[2:15:07] prepares Beaton for major population

[2:15:09] growth, gearing up for 80,000 residents

[2:15:11] without out sacrificing one user group

[2:15:13] for another, and crucially, without

[2:15:15] burying taxpayers in hidden maintenance

[2:15:17] costs for an old building. Which brings

[2:15:19] us to our final, somewhat provocative

[2:15:21] question. As the town makes its ultimate

[2:15:23] decision, what's going to happen? Will

[2:15:25] Beaton settle for a compromise building

[2:15:27] that fractures the community, or will

[2:15:29] they invest strategically in a true hub

[2:15:31] that supports next generation growth?

[2:15:33] It's a massive choice, one that will

[2:15:35] absolutely define the community for the

[2:15:36] next 50 years. Thanks so much for

[2:15:38] joining us for this explainer. We'll see

[2:15:40] you next time.

[2:15:48] » Huh.

[2:15:49] So, the ask is to basically seek out

[2:15:52] another option, a hybrid option as we've

[2:15:54] shown.

[2:15:55] And wanted to just mention that the

[2:15:57] large ice hockey facility, the NHL pad,

[2:16:00] it really doesn't work for for ball

[2:16:02] hockey, and that it would likely cause

[2:16:05] us to need to exit that in the summer,

[2:16:08] which is about 400 hours usage currently

[2:16:11] right now. So, thank you.

[2:16:13] >> Thank [snorts] you, Bill.

[2:16:15] » Thank [snorts] you, Bill.

[2:16:15] >> [applause]

[2:16:25] » So, that is our

[2:16:27] registered deputation.

[2:16:28] So, we have a motion to be resolved that

[2:16:30] the deputations from the public be

[2:16:32] received. Uh Counselor Masters, would

[2:16:34] you move that? Deputy Mayor, would you

[2:16:35] second that? Thank you.

[2:16:37] At this moment, is there anybody from

[2:16:39] the audience that would like to

[2:16:42] Sorry, all those in favor?

[2:16:45] Okay, all those opposed?

[2:16:48] Thank you.

[2:16:50] So, this is Is there anybody from the

[2:16:52] audience that would like to make a

[2:16:53] comment? I can't see that

[2:16:56] You please come on up.

[2:17:01] Welcome, and just state your name,

[2:17:03] please.

[2:17:04] Hi.

[2:17:13] » Am I on?

[2:17:16] Hello, Mayor, Deputy Mayor, council

[2:17:18] members,

[2:17:19] um administration Sorry, administration

[2:17:21] and staff, and also fellow community

[2:17:24] members.

[2:17:25] Tonight's been pretty exciting. We've

[2:17:27] heard a lot of exciting proposals

[2:17:30] of what could be built in our township.

[2:17:32] We've heard a lot about the heart and

[2:17:34] soul

[2:17:35] of our community members.

[2:17:37] Um what I think we need to step back and

[2:17:38] reflect on is what our manager of

[2:17:41] financial services has pointed out to

[2:17:43] us.

[2:17:44] The presentations feel a bit like

[2:17:46] dangling the brochure for Disney World

[2:17:48] in front of our kids when our budget

[2:17:51] allows us to go to Wonderland.

[2:17:53] Um

[2:17:54] if our township moves ahead with these

[2:17:56] three recreational proposals,

[2:17:59] we are obviously putting our township

[2:18:00] towards our affordability affordability

[2:18:03] debt ratio tolerance.

[2:18:06] My question to council would be where is

[2:18:09] the proposed um

[2:18:12] backing for these projects coming from?

[2:18:14] And what will our increases in tax

[2:18:16] taxation look like? Um from what I've

[2:18:18] read, we're looking at anywhere from an

[2:18:20] 8.5 to 11.37%

[2:18:22] increase in our property taxes.

[2:18:25] Um which is significant, especially in

[2:18:27] today's age. Um so to my fellow

[2:18:29] counselor or community members, I would

[2:18:31] ask who is in favor of of that kind of

[2:18:34] increase in our taxation?

[2:18:36] Um sports and recreation are very

[2:18:40] important to our youth and to our elders

[2:18:42] as as well. Um there are so many other

[2:18:45] opportunities available to our township

[2:18:47] that might not cost quite as much money.

[2:18:49] Um

[2:18:50] with our restrictions on developmental

[2:18:53] charges coming in, um I think it's very

[2:18:55] prudent to step back and look at where

[2:18:57] we're putting ourselves financially

[2:18:59] moving forward.

[2:19:01] Thank you.

[2:19:02] >> Thank you very much.

[2:19:06] » [applause]

[2:19:09] » I'm just looking out at the audience

[2:19:13] and I I don't see anyone, so thank you

[2:19:15] very much. So now I'm going to go to

[2:19:18] council. We had quite a few deputations.

[2:19:21] We had quite a few presentations, so

[2:19:23] this is your opportunity council to ask

[2:19:25] questions

[2:19:27] of either the presenters or the well,

[2:19:29] the presenters. So counselor Bess is

[2:19:31] first, please.

[2:19:33] >> Uh thank you, worship.

[2:19:34] » Uh thank you, worship.

[2:19:34] >> [clears throat]

[2:19:34] » [clears throat]

[2:19:34] >> And thank you to everyone who spoke this

[2:19:37] » And thank you to everyone who spoke this

[2:19:37] evening, to the presenters of the

[2:19:39] projects, to staff, and to council and

[2:19:42] everyone else that's been in the room

[2:19:43] here to to try to digest all that's

[2:19:47] happened, not just this evening, but

[2:19:49] over the last few days, few months, and

[2:19:51] I think in some cases years, right? Um I

[2:19:55] think what I would like to just point

[2:19:57] out and I think the last lady made a

[2:19:58] very good point is there's the there's

[2:20:00] obviously going to be a operating cost

[2:20:03] and a tax supported debt debt repayment.

[2:20:05] In other words, a tax impact to

[2:20:07] everything that was

[2:20:09] spoke of tonight. So, I just want to

[2:20:11] make make a couple of point out a couple

[2:20:13] things. So, just just keep in mind that,

[2:20:15] you know, in

[2:20:16] in this year, 2026, the assumptions and

[2:20:19] business plans, you know, discussed and

[2:20:21] approved in 2025 are no longer current.

[2:20:23] So, we had a we went through a budget

[2:20:25] process

[2:20:26] for 2026 and was all based on kind of

[2:20:29] the assumptions we made walking into it.

[2:20:31] So, the projects that we consider in

[2:20:33] these reports must be viewed in context

[2:20:35] of the needs of our community, the

[2:20:37] economy, and the recently mandated

[2:20:39] provincial growth plans.

[2:20:41] Let's be clear, Canada is in a

[2:20:43] recession.

[2:20:44] In the last three or four quarters,

[2:20:46] Canada has experienced negative GDP

[2:20:48] performance. Unfortunately, our

[2:20:50] province, Ontario, has been hit

[2:20:52] absolutely hardest.

[2:20:54] We're also hit with US sectoral tariffs,

[2:20:56] which threaten our auto industry, and of

[2:20:58] course, as we all know, the future of

[2:20:59] Honda's expansion plans have stalled.

[2:21:02] The economic forecast calls for minimal

[2:21:04] growth, if any, for the next 12 to 18

[2:21:06] months.

[2:21:07] And in addition, what has also changed

[2:21:10] is OPA 5 and the provincial priorities

[2:21:12] for New Tecumseth development.

[2:21:15] This has really reset the table of

[2:21:18] current and future infrastructure

[2:21:19] requirements and priorities. By 2051,

[2:21:23] the province has determined that New

[2:21:25] Tecumseth will add about 100,000

[2:21:27] new residents to our community. So,

[2:21:30] consider this. Take every service and

[2:21:33] piece of infrastructure we have today,

[2:21:35] everything that we have currently, and

[2:21:37] we need to double it in 25 years.

[2:21:41] As a result, I'm I'm not sure if

[2:21:42] everyone knows this, but the province

[2:21:44] has hired Hemson and Tatham Engineering

[2:21:46] Consultants to research and prepare a

[2:21:49] master services plan. And these reports

[2:21:51] will be

[2:21:52] will set the baseline, the minimum

[2:21:54] baseline of infrastructure requirements,

[2:21:57] and Council will have to review the

[2:21:58] recommendations before we add additional

[2:22:00] requirements to enhance the services we

[2:22:02] experience today. So, I you know,

[2:22:04] there's a lot of issues here.

[2:22:06] [clears throat] We talk about taxation,

[2:22:08] about the growth. I think

[2:22:10] we talk about if we approve the pool,

[2:22:12] the dome, as well as the beaten arena,

[2:22:15] the arena portion of option number

[2:22:17] three, increases the equivalent increase

[2:22:19] to the 11.35%.

[2:22:21] Remember, that's going to be also based

[2:22:23] on the population of today, 48,000

[2:22:26] people. That will also be [snorts] based

[2:22:28] on the fact that we have not had an

[2:22:30] opportunity to go to the province and

[2:22:32] say to them, "Listen, we have about 6

[2:22:35] billion with a B dollars worth of

[2:22:38] infrastructure projects that we need

[2:22:39] them to pay for." So, a lot of the

[2:22:43] the data that we've been presented

[2:22:44] tonight needs further analysis. And that

[2:22:48] further analysis

[2:22:50] is what I believe should happen within

[2:22:53] the context of the annual budget

[2:22:54] discussion. And we need to align what

[2:22:58] we're building with what we can afford

[2:23:00] to build. So, I support all three of the

[2:23:04] items tonight. Let's be perfectly clear.

[2:23:06] And I hope that they all go forward, but

[2:23:08] also, as we've learned in the past, it's

[2:23:10] very, very important for us to meet as a

[2:23:13] council, staff, and the public during a

[2:23:15] budget preparation so that we can

[2:23:18] actually go through what the impact is

[2:23:20] in terms of our debt ceiling and what

[2:23:22] the tax what how that will impact

[2:23:24] taxation. So, everything that was

[2:23:25] presented today is a little out of

[2:23:27] context, and I think that's very

[2:23:29] important for us to move these projects

[2:23:31] forward, but let's make sure that we

[2:23:33] discuss them within the context of an

[2:23:35] annual budget. So, your worship, I just

[2:23:39] I'll just begin the evening by just

[2:23:40] saying

[2:23:41] um I'd like to make the motion that be

[2:23:44] it resolved that report RFC 2026 -19 be

[2:23:47] received and further that the sports

[2:23:50] dome project be deferred to the 2027

[2:23:52] budget deliberations for consideration.

[2:23:54] That would be my first motion and I hope

[2:23:56] that someone allow me to defer this and

[2:23:58] will will actually

[2:23:59] um second my motion.

[2:24:01] >> I'm going to go to the clerk because the

[2:24:03] » I'm going to go to the clerk because the

[2:24:03] purpose of this part of the meeting was

[2:24:06] comments or was like questions for

[2:24:08] members of council to the consultants or

[2:24:10] the presenters.

[2:24:12] So, I would defer to you uh Madam Clerk

[2:24:15] cuz I know when a deferral comes up you

[2:24:17] can debate

[2:24:18] the merits of the deferral.

[2:24:21] And

[2:24:22] um so I would ask them for a second cuz

[2:24:24] there there's a lot of people here

[2:24:25] who've been here tonight. So, I want to

[2:24:27] make I know the process but I want to

[2:24:29] make sure that everybody else knows.

[2:24:31] So, Madam Clerk

[2:24:32] we have a motion for deferral under our

[2:24:34] procedural bylaw. We automatically go to

[2:24:36] that deferral. We look for a second

[2:24:39] secondary and then the debate will be on

[2:24:41] the merits of the deferral.

[2:24:43] Can you clarify, please?

[2:24:44] >> Uh that's correct, Your Worship.

[2:24:47] » Uh that's correct, Your Worship.

[2:24:47] >> Okay, thank you. So, there is a motion

[2:24:50] » Okay, thank you. So, there is a motion

[2:24:50] for deferral from Council

[2:24:52] Go ahead.

[2:24:53] >> Uh is the deferral strictly on

[2:24:55] » Uh is the deferral strictly on

[2:24:55] number one?

[2:24:56] Okay, I have to

[2:24:58] >> You asked Councillor Rappin. Good good

[2:25:00] » You asked Councillor Rappin. Good good

[2:25:00] call and please note that Councillor

[2:25:01] Rappin has excused himself.

[2:25:04] So, there is a motion for a deferral

[2:25:07] um from Councillor Best. Is there a

[2:25:08] secondary for that motion for deferral?

[2:25:12] Councillor Cox is making that motion for

[2:25:14] deferral.

[2:25:15] So, what is now on the floor, I will

[2:25:17] open the floor up to debate for the

[2:25:19] motion of deferral.

[2:25:21] Does anybody have any comments or

[2:25:22] questions?

[2:25:24] I do. Let's make a decision tonight. The

[2:25:26] presentation is very very clear. We have

[2:25:29] all the information and it's time to

[2:25:31] move forward. So, I will support it.

[2:25:34] Are there any other comments or

[2:25:35] questions in regards to the deferral?

[2:25:37] Not seeing any. So, uh Madam Clerk, I

[2:25:39] will now call a the

[2:25:40] Thank you. So,

[2:25:42] the motion to defer item number one. All

[2:25:44] those in favor, please.

[2:25:48] 1 2 3, I count four here.

[2:25:52] I can see number five, Councillor

[2:25:54] Harrison-McIntyre.

[2:25:55] So, Madam Clerk, can you just confirm my

[2:25:58] count, please?

[2:26:01] » Uh your worship, I counted in support.

[2:26:04] So, by default Oh, no, five in support,

[2:26:07] so it will carry because Councillor

[2:26:09] Rappin has declared a pecuniary

[2:26:10] interest.

[2:26:12] >> Okay, so that means no decision tonight

[2:26:14] » Okay, so that means no decision tonight

[2:26:14] on the dome.

[2:26:16] And um

[2:26:19] I thought

[2:26:24] No, no, I understand that, but I want to

[2:26:26] be clear, there are people here watching

[2:26:27] and people that have showed up tonight.

[2:26:30] There will not be a decision made on

[2:26:31] going forward with the dome tonight.

[2:26:34] So, thank you for that, and Councillor

[2:26:37] Best, you said you had another motion?

[2:26:42] Hold one second, Councillor Best.

[2:26:44] And can somebody call Councillor Oh,

[2:26:46] there's Councillor Rappin, you're back

[2:26:47] in.

[2:26:48] >> No, I don't have No, your worship, I do

[2:26:50] » No, I don't have No, your worship, I do

[2:26:50] not. I just wanted to make sure that we

[2:26:51] have that we you know, as we move

[2:26:53] through the process, that we have an

[2:26:54] opportunity to have a more comprehensive

[2:26:58] discussion. I mean, and just so I can

[2:27:00] explain myself, thank you for booing. Um

[2:27:02] I just want to let let people everyone

[2:27:04] know that

[2:27:06] the this doesn't end the process.

[2:27:08] The the budget comes in to discussion in

[2:27:10] about six months. So, all this does is

[2:27:13] it just puts this project in the same

[2:27:17] category as all the other growth

[2:27:19] projects, which will allow us to take a

[2:27:21] look at our our debt and our tax impact,

[2:27:24] and it allow us all to look at it and

[2:27:26] reflect on it, and decide, do we want

[2:27:28] 11% tax increase? I mean, that that's

[2:27:31] what we And if we if it's something that

[2:27:33] we want to do, then we'll go ahead with

[2:27:35] it. If we don't want 11% tax increase,

[2:27:37] then we'll have to adjust.

[2:27:38] >> Best, we've we've it's

[2:27:40] » Best, we've we've it's

[2:27:40] we'll move on.

[2:27:41] >> you're

[2:27:41] » you're

[2:27:41] >> Well, you've the motion's been moved,

[2:27:43] » Well, you've the motion's been moved,

[2:27:43] it's been seconded, it's been voted on,

[2:27:45] and it's been referred to the budget.

[2:27:46] So,

[2:27:48] No, I'm not, Joe. I'm chairing the

[2:27:50] meeting. And that's what I'm going to

[2:27:53] do, and that is my role.

[2:27:55] And I will not be interrupted from the

[2:27:57] audience.

[2:27:58] Counselor Best, if you'd like to take 30

[2:28:00] seconds to wrap up, go ahead, please,

[2:28:03] but I will not be interrupted. And

[2:28:05] there'll be decorum in these council

[2:28:07] chambers.

[2:28:08] Go ahead, counselor Best.

[2:28:12] Okay, thank you. So, we're moving on

[2:28:13] then to item Well, no, is there any

[2:28:15] other questions

[2:28:17] from the presenters tonight from members

[2:28:19] of council? I have counselor Masters, do

[2:28:21] you have a question?

[2:28:23] >> Um um not on that. I have a question I

[2:28:27] » Um um not on that. I have a question I

[2:28:27] have some questions for the presenters.

[2:28:29] >> Yes, so do you have a question for the

[2:28:31] » Yes, so do you have a question for the

[2:28:31] presenters?

[2:28:31] >> Yes, do.

[2:28:32] » Yes, do.

[2:28:32] >> And for items two, three, go ahead.

[2:28:33] » And for items two, three, go ahead.

[2:28:33] >> a a couple, actually. Um first of all, I

[2:28:36] » a a couple, actually. Um first of all, I

[2:28:36] like I have a question on the sports

[2:28:38] dome.

[2:28:40] Um

[2:28:41] the I [clears throat] noticed that um

[2:28:44] I'm all for the sports dome, by the way.

[2:28:46] Um

[2:28:47] I think they're a great way an economic

[2:28:49] way of

[2:28:50] of of bringing us the sports to the

[2:28:53] public. Um

[2:28:55] um I played with the Tottenham seniors

[2:28:58] soccer team for a number of years, and

[2:29:00] we actually used the facility in

[2:29:02] Bradford. Uh my question is that this is

[2:29:05] a nice clear see-through dome. Um

[2:29:08] what what is the track record

[2:29:10] uh from a from a serviceability

[2:29:12] standpoint? We have some pretty tough

[2:29:13] winters here, and I know the one in

[2:29:15] Bradford had a very solid um you know,

[2:29:18] dome. Wasn't see-through, as I remember.

[2:29:21] Um how does this type What's the record

[2:29:24] of this type of dome? How does it stack

[2:29:26] up?

[2:29:29] I said I have two more questions after

[2:29:31] that.

[2:29:31] >> Thank you. I just do the direction

[2:29:33] » Thank you. I just do the direction

[2:29:33] through the director, please.

[2:29:36] I'll just go to you, director, and then

[2:29:37] you can

[2:29:39] Through your worship to members of

[2:29:40] council, Mr. Langlois is just online. He

[2:29:42] could probably more properly answer that

[2:29:44] question. Steve.

[2:29:49] Thank you, your worship, and members of

[2:29:50] council and masters.

[2:29:52] So, the image that you were seeing would

[2:29:54] show it

[2:29:55] as a transparent dome. That's that's

[2:29:57] really just for illustration purposes so

[2:29:59] you can see the field and inside.

[2:30:03] The actual dome fabric and the design

[2:30:06] would have to be dictated through tender

[2:30:08] and at that time. So, at this moment, I

[2:30:11] mean, most domes that you'll see out

[2:30:13] there tend to be

[2:30:14] largely white. There are the technology

[2:30:16] improves year after year on them. Many

[2:30:18] of them now have sort of transparent

[2:30:20] panels. Typically, you would have that

[2:30:23] as a sort of a skylight to let in a

[2:30:25] little bit more

[2:30:27] daylight into into the building. So,

[2:30:30] really the design would have to be

[2:30:31] dictated through the next stage as that

[2:30:34] goes. And relative to the lifespan of

[2:30:37] these facilities,

[2:30:39] we've we've anticipated you'll hear from

[2:30:42] suppliers that they can get 25 to 30

[2:30:44] years out of the dome fabric.

[2:30:47] That might be a a bit ambitious. They

[2:30:50] will start to look look a little bit

[2:30:52] older over time. We've anticipated a

[2:30:54] 25-year replacement. You'll see that.

[2:30:57] That's pretty typical in in this sort of

[2:31:00] sector.

[2:31:02] They're they're quite good. Again,

[2:31:04] technology improves every year. They're

[2:31:05] quite good with snow snow loads. You

[2:31:07] would have to maintain

[2:31:09] a snow clearing area around the apron so

[2:31:11] you don't get snow snow load pressure

[2:31:14] onto

[2:31:15] the apron of the dome.

[2:31:17] So, there is some requirement to make

[2:31:19] sure that that's cleared

[2:31:21] certainly after heavy snowfalls.

[2:31:23] Okay, thank you. So, what I'm going to

[2:31:24] do, sorry,

[2:31:26] I'm going to change the format. We are

[2:31:28] on item number two, indoor pool

[2:31:29] feasibility study and proposed aquatic

[2:31:31] and wellness center expansion. So, what

[2:31:33] I'm going to do is I'm going to limit

[2:31:34] the questions for members of council to

[2:31:36] item number two that retain pertain to

[2:31:39] the indoor pool. Can somebody let

[2:31:41] Councillor Rappin come back in and

[2:31:42] participate, please?

[2:31:44] Sorry, Councillor Masters.

[2:31:53] Okay, members of council, are there any

[2:31:54] questions to item number two or comments

[2:31:56] to item number two?

[2:32:01] Councillor Foster, please.

[2:32:06] » Uh thank you, Mayor Northcutt. Um

[2:32:09] referring Well, first of all, I I didn't

[2:32:11] support the deferral um

[2:32:13] on the sports dome, but

[2:32:16] in light of Director Hobbs' comments

[2:32:18] that

[2:32:20] uh I believe it was right at the

[2:32:22] beginning of the meeting you asked the

[2:32:23] question, what what established the

[2:32:25] order?

[2:32:26] And the order was you need to vote on

[2:32:29] the sports dome

[2:32:30] in order to make a decision on the pool

[2:32:32] because of how

[2:32:34] intrinsically tied together they are.

[2:32:36] So, my question is,

[2:32:38] if someone's going to support a deferral

[2:32:39] for number one,

[2:32:41] why would we vote on number two because

[2:32:44] they both go hand in hand? And is my

[2:32:46] interpretation correct, Director Hobbs?

[2:32:50] >> Director.

[2:32:57] » Uh through you, Your Worship, to

[2:32:58] Councillor Foster. Um yes, there's

[2:33:00] certainly merits to to that thinking and

[2:33:02] that's why I explained the domino

[2:33:03] process at the beginning. Um however,

[2:33:05] should council wish to proceed uh with

[2:33:08] the second report, um I would advise

[2:33:10] that uh the the NTRC field house

[2:33:13] component would it would be wise to

[2:33:15] remove that as part of the the

[2:33:16] renovation, um which is why that was

[2:33:18] specifically separated in terms of the

[2:33:20] budget figure, as well as in terms of

[2:33:22] advancing the overall project. So,

[2:33:24] theoretically, um

[2:33:26] uh to Councillor Foster's point, you

[2:33:27] could still advance, should Council wish

[2:33:29] to advance, the pool

[2:33:31] um as well as the other components of

[2:33:33] the expansion, but I would suggest to

[2:33:34] not advance the the the field house

[2:33:36] component.

[2:33:39] » Thank you. Councillor Foster, did you

[2:33:41] have a follow-up, or you're good with

[2:33:43] that?

[2:33:44] >> Um

[2:33:45] » Um

[2:33:45] yes, thank you, Director Hobbs. Then

[2:33:47] I'll I'll um

[2:33:49] um I'll speak in support of the uh I was

[2:33:52] I'm in support of

[2:33:54] the the sports dome, but that's

[2:33:55] obviously been deferred. So, I will

[2:33:57] speak in support of the pool and um

[2:34:00] see what the rest of Council says and

[2:34:01] when we vote on it.

[2:34:03] >> Thank you. Next on my list is Councillor

[2:34:04] » Thank you. Next on my list is Councillor

[2:34:05] Bess, please.

[2:34:06] >> I thank Thank you, Worship. Um

[2:34:09] » I thank Thank you, Worship. Um

[2:34:09] So, for the record, I'm in support of

[2:34:11] all of these projects. I just want to

[2:34:12] wait 6 months, so that we can consider

[2:34:14] it as a council and understand exactly

[2:34:17] how the how it's going to impact our

[2:34:19] community as a whole. Uh you know,

[2:34:21] unfortunately, these are very big-ticket

[2:34:23] items that we're talking about tonight,

[2:34:25] and they impact everything about our

[2:34:27] community. So, it's really important to

[2:34:29] get all of the different input from

[2:34:32] everybody, so that we can determine

[2:34:33] exactly what the timeline is. As you can

[2:34:36] see, we're going to hit our death debt

[2:34:37] threshold, which means that if anytime

[2:34:40] thereafter we get hit with a natural

[2:34:42] disaster or

[2:34:43] a water main breaks or something, we

[2:34:45] will not be able to borrow money to fix

[2:34:47] it. So, in that light, you you Worship,

[2:34:51] I I recommend that uh the report RFC

[2:34:53] 2026-20 regarding the indoor pool

[2:34:56] feasibility study and the associated

[2:34:58] aquatic and wellness center expansion

[2:34:59] and the new Tecumseh recreation center

[2:35:01] be received, and further that the

[2:35:03] aquatic and wellness center project be

[2:35:04] deferred to the 2027 budget

[2:35:06] deliberations for consideration.

[2:35:09] >> Thank you, Councillor Bess. I'll look to

[2:35:11] » Thank you, Councillor Bess. I'll look to

[2:35:11] the clerk to make sure she's documented

[2:35:13] that, and you're fine with that. Thank

[2:35:15] Thank Is there a secondary for the

[2:35:16] deferral, please?

[2:35:19] Is there a Oh, sorry. Deputy Mayor,

[2:35:21] please. Thank you.

[2:35:23] So, it's been duly moved, duly seconded,

[2:35:25] and it be deferred to the 2027 budget

[2:35:27] deliberation

[2:35:29] process. Thank you. Okay. All those in

[2:35:31] favor, then?

[2:35:33] And that's carried.

[2:35:36] Thank you, Council. So, I'm going to

[2:35:38] move on to item number three, which is

[2:35:40] the Beeton Community Centre

[2:35:41] Redevelopment Preliminary Design

[2:35:43] Options.

[2:35:45] And I'm going to go to Councillor Cox,

[2:35:46] please.

[2:35:48] >> [clears throat]

[2:35:48] » [clears throat]

[2:35:48] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I do echo what

[2:35:51] » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And I do echo what

[2:35:51] of Councillor Bississ said, that uh

[2:35:54] I'm sure that all of Council supports

[2:35:57] these projects. And uh it is the

[2:35:59] responsible thing to move a few of these

[2:36:02] to the budget. In terms of the Beeton

[2:36:03] facility project,

[2:36:05] um

[2:36:07] I think this is what is actually holding

[2:36:10] up a lot of our recreation programs

[2:36:12] moving forward.

[2:36:13] This project has been on the books and

[2:36:16] being worked towards for the last 20

[2:36:19] years.

[2:36:20] We haven't seen

[2:36:22] very many large recreation projects, and

[2:36:25] a lot of that reason is because then we

[2:36:27] point to the Beeton facility and we say,

[2:36:29] "We've updated the NTRC. We've updated

[2:36:32] the TCFC. And Beeton would like an

[2:36:35] opportunity for that to happen."

[2:36:37] This project isn't new to Council, and

[2:36:40] it's certainly not new to the residents

[2:36:41] of Beeton. For nearly two decades, it's

[2:36:44] been studied, reviewed, debated,

[2:36:46] revised, and brought back for future

[2:36:49] consideration.

[2:36:51] What concerns me about the

[2:36:52] recommendations before Council tonight

[2:36:54] is not simply what it proposes, it's

[2:36:56] what it represents. 20 years, residents

[2:36:59] have been told the process is coming.

[2:37:02] Yet, here we are again.

[2:37:04] The recommendation before us

[2:37:06] does not approve a budget for the Beeton

[2:37:08] facility like the other two.

[2:37:10] It doesn't approve financing, and it

[2:37:12] doesn't authorize construction.

[2:37:15] It asked council to select a preferred

[2:37:16] option and continue refining it

[2:37:19] through additional due diligence.

[2:37:23] At the same time council was asked

[2:37:25] tonight to move forward with the sports

[2:37:27] sports dome project, to move forward

[2:37:29] with the aquatic and wellness center

[2:37:30] project. Those projects are being

[2:37:33] presented as ready for financing, but

[2:37:35] the Beaton Community Center, arguably

[2:37:37] the longest running recreation project

[2:37:40] in this municipality, is once again

[2:37:42] being told to wait.

[2:37:45] When the town has reached 99% capacity

[2:37:47] in our ice facilities, does it make

[2:37:49] sense to reduce the level of service by

[2:37:51] 25%?

[2:37:54] And then try to facilitate the use of

[2:37:56] private facilities that were unable to

[2:37:58] accommodate our needs just 2 years ago?

[2:38:01] Because in third 2036, we may be able to

[2:38:04] acquire the land and we may be able to

[2:38:06] have the I'm sure sustain substantially

[2:38:09] larger amount of money we need to build

[2:38:10] the twin pad because it will be more

[2:38:12] expensive in 10 years. And a twin pad is

[2:38:15] substantially more expensive

[2:38:17] than a single pad.

[2:38:19] And it's not DC funded. Whether we move

[2:38:21] it to another location, it is still a

[2:38:24] redevelopment project.

[2:38:26] The staff recommendation mentions

[2:38:28] additional additionary preliminary

[2:38:30] design and due diligence.

[2:38:32] With all due respect, how much due

[2:38:35] diligence is enough? If 20 years of

[2:38:37] studies, consultations, reports,

[2:38:39] presentations, public meetings, surveys,

[2:38:42] task force input, and community input is

[2:38:46] not enough to make a decision, then when

[2:38:48] will it be?

[2:38:49] 5 years from now? 10 years from now?

[2:38:52] At some point due diligence stops being

[2:38:54] a safeguard and starts becoming a

[2:38:56] substitute for leadership.

[2:38:58] The people of Beaton have done

[2:38:59] everything we asked of them.

[2:39:01] They've attended meetings, completed

[2:39:03] surveys multiple times.

[2:39:05] They've participated in the

[2:39:06] consultations, They've watched the

[2:39:08] project pass through multiple councils,

[2:39:10] multiple studies, multiple rounds of

[2:39:13] review. We've approved development on

[2:39:15] the books that doubles our current size

[2:39:17] in Beeton, and this is a redevelopment

[2:39:19] project. It's

[2:39:22] It's a redevelopment project.

[2:39:24] I don't believe Beeton's looking for

[2:39:26] another report. I believe the people are

[2:39:28] looking for a decision.

[2:39:30] And if council is prepared

[2:39:33] to support other projects, which it

[2:39:36] seems like they are with some due

[2:39:37] diligence in the budget,

[2:39:40] then I believe that this project

[2:39:43] shouldn't be asked to wait any longer.

[2:39:46] I think the only thing that will get us

[2:39:47] somewhere tonight with all of these

[2:39:49] projects is for me to put the following

[2:39:51] motion on the table and ask my council

[2:39:54] colleagues for their support.

[2:39:57] So, I have the following motion. And

[2:39:59] further that council approve option

[2:40:01] three, arena model for the redevelopment

[2:40:03] of the Beeton Community Centre, modified

[2:40:06] to include a community-size ice surface

[2:40:08] in place of the NHL-size ice surface

[2:40:11] contemplated within the preliminary

[2:40:12] concept.

[2:40:14] And further that council approve the

[2:40:15] Beeton Community Centre redevelopment

[2:40:17] project with an estimated capital budget

[2:40:20] based upon option three, being

[2:40:23] I'm going to say 45,778,653

[2:40:28] because the two There was two numbers,

[2:40:29] actually, one from the presentation and

[2:40:31] one that was provided um in the report,

[2:40:35] exclusive of soft costs, together with

[2:40:37] the associated 15% soft costs to be

[2:40:40] incorporated into the final project

[2:40:42] budget.

[2:40:43] And further that council approve the

[2:40:44] financing strategy for the Beeton

[2:40:46] Community Centre redevelopment project

[2:40:48] through a combination of development

[2:40:50] charges, which we know we've set aside

[2:40:52] in the 2020

[2:40:53] four budget for this project, reserve

[2:40:57] funds, which we currently have in the

[2:40:59] amount of I

[2:41:01] believe around $750,000

[2:41:04] and debenture financing and direct staff

[2:41:07] to pursue grant funding, sponsorship

[2:41:09] opportunities, fundraising

[2:41:10] contributions, which we know FAB is

[2:41:13] uh currently having

[2:41:16] that they currently have

[2:41:17] and any other external funding sources

[2:41:19] that may reduce the municipal share of

[2:41:21] project costs. And further that council

[2:41:23] authorize and direct staff to proceed

[2:41:25] with detailed design and construction of

[2:41:27] the Beeton Community Centre

[2:41:28] Redevelopment Project in accordance with

[2:41:30] the approved project scope.

[2:41:32] And further that the approved project

[2:41:34] scope shall include a single community

[2:41:36] size ice surface together with

[2:41:37] associated community center amenities

[2:41:40] and support spaces substantially

[2:41:42] consistent with option three

[2:41:44] in the facility program presented to

[2:41:46] council.

[2:41:47] And further that staff shall incorporate

[2:41:49] the Beeton Community Centre

[2:41:50] Redevelopment Project into the 2027

[2:41:54] capital budget and long-term financial

[2:41:55] plan as a committed capital project. And

[2:41:59] further that the Beeton Community Centre

[2:42:00] Redevelopment Project shall be

[2:42:02] designated as the town's next recreation

[2:42:05] capital construction priority.

[2:42:08] And staff shall prioritize project

[2:42:10] implementation, financing, grant

[2:42:12] applications, detailed design, and

[2:42:13] construction scheduling accordingly.

[2:42:16] And further that where staff identify

[2:42:19] any ambiguity in the interpretation or

[2:42:21] implementation of this resolution,

[2:42:23] staff's staff shall seek direction and

[2:42:25] clarification for council.

[2:42:29] from council.

[2:42:33] » [applause]

[2:42:38] » Okay. Do we have a second to get that on

[2:42:40] the floor to open it up, please?

[2:42:42] Uh Councillor Masters and then I'll go

[2:42:47] to the Deputy Mayor. Go ahead, Deputy.

[2:42:49] Um

[2:42:50] Oh, okay. Sorry. Councillor Masters,

[2:42:52] then.

[2:42:54] >> Oh, sorry.

[2:42:56] » Oh, sorry.

[2:42:56] No, it's yeah, I'll second it. Yeah.

[2:42:59] Okay, is there any comments and

[2:43:00] questions in regards to the motion?

[2:43:03] Uh Council Jackson.

[2:43:05] >> Thank you your worship. Through you also

[2:43:07] » Thank you your worship. Through you also

[2:43:07] someone in support of

[2:43:11] moving forward a project in Beeton and I

[2:43:13] definitely am in support. I just want to

[2:43:15] say this before

[2:43:17] the rest of my comments of ice in Beeton

[2:43:21] or a pad in Beeton.

[2:43:23] My question is really born from

[2:43:25] curiosity as I don't know if all of the

[2:43:28] public realizes we just saw these

[2:43:31] numbers a week ago. Like when the agenda

[2:43:33] got published, this is the first time

[2:43:35] that we have looked at this from the

[2:43:38] lens that you have as well. And so

[2:43:41] looking at the comparison table, what

[2:43:43] struck me

[2:43:45] beyond the price tags, but I digress,

[2:43:48] was actually the displacement of ice.

[2:43:52] And so scenario three is

[2:43:57] certainly the Beeton community is

[2:44:00] deserving

[2:44:02] of a brand new facility, but I'm just

[2:44:05] curious and I don't know where to direct

[2:44:07] the question to you, but the implication

[2:44:09] of three years

[2:44:11] three years of ice

[2:44:14] displacement, that that's significant.

[2:44:17] We know that two seasons ago

[2:44:20] when the trusses were being repaired and

[2:44:22] there was no access yes, of course

[2:44:26] everybody came together and managed as

[2:44:28] best as they could. But I remember the

[2:44:32] the stress that that put on the user

[2:44:34] groups and the staff and everybody

[2:44:37] trying to accommodate. And as Donna said

[2:44:41] earlier

[2:44:42] are we certain that these groups have

[2:44:47] access paid for access to ice for three

[2:44:51] years and

[2:44:52] um and this is of no disrespect or

[2:44:55] disregard to anyone's expertise, but 3

[2:44:58] years provided everything works out the

[2:45:00] way it's supposed to.

[2:45:01] And all the elements of large-scale

[2:45:04] construction go to plan.

[2:45:06] And everything just works out exactly.

[2:45:09] What if it's four seasons?

[2:45:11] So, the only reason why looking at all

[2:45:14] these considerations, I thought to

[2:45:15] myself,

[2:45:16] I'm not a you part of a user group or

[2:45:20] and neither is my child who requires

[2:45:23] access to ice.

[2:45:25] Is the same passion do we still have the

[2:45:28] same passion for scenario three

[2:45:31] given there is going to be a minimum of

[2:45:34] three seasons that we cannot access that

[2:45:36] ice pad or dry pad, whatever way the

[2:45:39] pad.

[2:45:40] Uh is it still the option that that is

[2:45:44] uh best serving for the community?

[2:45:48] Thank you.

[2:45:49] >> Thank you, Councillor Jacks. Um

[2:45:51] » Thank you, Councillor Jacks. Um

[2:45:51] Councillor Harrison MacIntyre was next,

[2:45:53] please.

[2:45:55] >> Am I Am I on mute?

[2:45:56] » Am I Am I on mute?

[2:45:56] >> a question that's going to get answered?

[2:45:58] » a question that's going to get answered?

[2:45:58] >> Sure. Thank you. I will direct it over

[2:45:59] » Sure. Thank you. I will direct it over

[2:46:00] to uh

[2:46:01] Director Mops, please. If you'd like to

[2:46:03] go ahead.

[2:46:05] >> Thank you, Your Worship. To um to

[2:46:07] » Thank you, Your Worship. To um to

[2:46:07] Councillor Jacks, I'll ask Perkins and

[2:46:08] Will uh to answer this question. Philip,

[2:46:10] did you want to take this or John?

[2:46:15] » Your Worship, thank you for the

[2:46:16] question.

[2:46:17] Um

[2:46:19] it it's it there's a little bit of

[2:46:21] Hobson's choice in that it committing to

[2:46:23] that site means there needs to be you

[2:46:25] need to build on top of the existing

[2:46:27] arena.

[2:46:28] And so, ultimately you've raised the

[2:46:29] raised the critical issue which isn't

[2:46:31] and that was part of our purpose of

[2:46:33] putting the numbers and the qualitative

[2:46:34] stuff in the presentation is that

[2:46:37] it does require a strategy to either

[2:46:40] accept that the reduction in service.

[2:46:42] So,

[2:46:43] uh that might mean bigger drive times

[2:46:45] for people to to uh to access ice

[2:46:48] elsewhere in the region

[2:46:49] or an an aggressive approach to try and

[2:46:52] purchase ice time.

[2:46:53] That might be quite expensive. It It

[2:46:55] does get done. And we actually use some

[2:46:58] numbers which were quite high to to

[2:46:59] assume that you need to. But relative to

[2:47:02] the other options

[2:47:03] and so the other options being

[2:47:07] go with option one or two

[2:47:10] as it relates to this particular site

[2:47:12] and

[2:47:13] close the arena now. You'd be looking at

[2:47:15] potentially 10 years of having to find

[2:47:17] ice which I think is a

[2:47:20] an inordinate risk. It's It's a whole

[2:47:22] generation of of users.

[2:47:24] Um

[2:47:25] So you know that would lead us to say if

[2:47:27] you were if the if the municipality were

[2:47:29] thinking of creating twin ice by about

[2:47:31] 2036, you got to bring it forward

[2:47:33] dramatically in order to cut that off.

[2:47:35] So

[2:47:36] as I say it's Hobson's choice out of the

[2:47:38] three options as it relates to

[2:47:40] the loss of ice

[2:47:42] unless you keep the Beaton Memorial

[2:47:44] Arena going and work around it and

[2:47:47] recognize that there is that capital

[2:47:49] cost associated with keeping it then

[2:47:53] option three

[2:47:55] the loss of ice for three years

[2:47:58] um

[2:47:59] is a bit of a rally cry to to get

[2:48:01] through it as fast as you can.

[2:48:03] >> And just a follow up on that. The Sorry

[2:48:06] » And just a follow up on that. The Sorry

[2:48:06] counselor.

[2:48:07] Just the department's also working on

[2:48:10] council approved facility allocation

[2:48:12] policy. So as part of that review then

[2:48:14] we have the opportunity to tighten up a

[2:48:16] little bit and reallocate and find

[2:48:18] efficiencies within our bookings process

[2:48:20] just to make sure that the right groups

[2:48:22] are being prioritized. Um but if we were

[2:48:24] to proceed through construction to your

[2:48:26] point counselor Jackson, likely be two

[2:48:28] seasons out of commission.

[2:48:30] So we would gracefully ask for patience

[2:48:32] from the community while we go through

[2:48:34] that process as well understanding the

[2:48:36] the positive impacts at the end. Just a

[2:48:38] little little bit of pain short term

[2:48:39] pain for long term gain. But we try our

[2:48:41] best to to accommodate as much as

[2:48:43] possible.

[2:48:46] » Is that good?

[2:48:46] >> Supplementary. Yeah, thank you, your

[2:48:47] » Supplementary. Yeah, thank you, your

[2:48:47] worship. Um my second question would be

[2:48:50] then through uh through your worship to

[2:48:52] to staff. Um

[2:48:55] the $15,678,254

[2:48:59] that has been uh proposed here as the

[2:49:03] capital cost to uh

[2:49:05] keep um the the existing ice going or

[2:49:09] the BMA going

[2:49:11] uh while

[2:49:12] construction would occur if we went with

[2:49:14] scenario one or two, community centers

[2:49:17] built, ideally a twin pad, um which

[2:49:21] would be also reflective of

[2:49:24] uh the user group demand and growth in

[2:49:27] the area

[2:49:28] is built.

[2:49:30] Where did that number come from? Like it

[2:49:32] that that costs more than we're

[2:49:34] proposing to spend on the dome

[2:49:37] to keep the BMA running for 10 years. It

[2:49:40] just

[2:49:41] I am not I know nothing, honestly, but

[2:49:44] that seems like an extraordinary cost

[2:49:47] given we haven't spent 10 mi- $15

[2:49:49] million to keep it going for the last 10

[2:49:52] years. Like

[2:49:53] is this just worst-case scenario,

[2:49:56] the trusses all come unbuckled and it

[2:49:58] collapses? It like where $15 million to

[2:50:02] to run that is

[2:50:04] I just help me understand why where that

[2:50:07] What What are we doing?

[2:50:10] >> Director?

[2:50:11] » Director?

[2:50:11] >> Thank you, your worship, to Councillor

[2:50:13] » Thank you, your worship, to Councillor

[2:50:13] Jackson. That figure was pulled from the

[2:50:15] building condition assessments reports

[2:50:17] that was previously provided to council.

[2:50:19] Um you are correct that does identify a

[2:50:21] worst-case scenario, so we're being

[2:50:22] cautious and certainly conservative in

[2:50:24] providing that number. Um but what I

[2:50:26] will say is a couple things. So that

[2:50:27] number is subject to inflation. Um so

[2:50:30] just keep in mind escalation costs as

[2:50:32] well as potential impact of a

[2:50:33] geopolitical crisis or tariffs or

[2:50:35] anything like that. Um and then keep in

[2:50:37] mind these structural implications. So,

[2:50:39] right now, um, there's structural

[2:50:41] inspection that will take place every 5

[2:50:42] years, um, recommended by the by the

[2:50:44] engineer. The next um,

[2:50:46] structural inspection, I believe, is

[2:50:48] early 2020 uh, 7. Once that inspection

[2:50:52] takes place, my I would assume it'll

[2:50:54] likely be an annual inspection. Um, so,

[2:50:56] we're really putting in as as much time

[2:50:59] and life into that building as possible,

[2:51:00] but we don't know exactly what that

[2:51:02] structural inspection would identify.

[2:51:04] Um, so, to get an engineer's stamp

[2:51:06] behind it, um, they would need to deem

[2:51:07] it safe for continued use, and that

[2:51:09] would certainly be be an aspect for

[2:51:11] consideration. Um, now, if option number

[2:51:14] one or two was chosen and the BMA

[2:51:16] remained, um, staff would assess the

[2:51:19] merits of the building condition

[2:51:20] assessment. So, if we knew exactly that

[2:51:22] we were advancing a twin pad arena, um,

[2:51:25] and there was a there was a concrete

[2:51:27] plan for acquiring land and constructing

[2:51:29] that facility in the future, we would

[2:51:31] know a definite end time for when the

[2:51:33] current BMA would be out of service. So,

[2:51:35] then we could assess exactly what that

[2:51:37] $15 million would look like. If we know

[2:51:39] the end date, then we may choose to

[2:51:41] invest in the in the facility

[2:51:42] differently. Um, would it be $15

[2:51:45] million? Probably not. Would it be on

[2:51:47] the low end? Probably not. Um, would it

[2:51:49] be closer to 15? It's probably likely,

[2:51:51] but it's really hard to say with the

[2:51:53] with the crystal ball at at this moment

[2:51:55] in time. Um, so, chosen conservatively.

[2:51:59] >> Thank you, Councillor Harrison McIntyre,

[2:52:01] » Thank you, Councillor Harrison McIntyre,

[2:52:01] please.

[2:52:03] >> Thank you. The motion as put forward by

[2:52:06] » Thank you. The motion as put forward by

[2:52:06] Councillor Cox changes the size of the,

[2:52:09] um,

[2:52:11] rink from, uh, the recommended size, and

[2:52:14] I just wanted to get some, um,

[2:52:16] information because it's it's not a huge

[2:52:18] difference in amount of feet, 25 ft one

[2:52:21] way, um,

[2:52:22] and a little bit more the other way. So,

[2:52:24] I just want to figure out hear from

[2:52:26] staff

[2:52:28] um, what's the cost savings and, um,

[2:52:30] and the what's the rationale,

[2:52:33] For making it the NHL size? Does that

[2:52:35] open it up for more competitions or

[2:52:37] higher level

[2:52:38] playing?

[2:52:39] What's Yeah, just more details on that

[2:52:41] before we move forward agreeing to it.

[2:52:44] >> Thank you. I'll go to the director,

[2:52:45] » Thank you. I'll go to the director,

[2:52:46] please and you can either answer or

[2:52:48] assign. Thank you.

[2:52:51] >> Uh thank you, Your Worship, to tell the

[2:52:53] » Uh thank you, Your Worship, to tell the

[2:52:53] counselors. So, in determining or

[2:52:55] recommending NHL size ice, we really

[2:52:58] looked at the history of this project.

[2:52:59] So, if you look at the task force and

[2:53:01] what they were reviewing, there was a

[2:53:02] recommendation and consideration for a

[2:53:04] smaller ice pad back in I think it was

[2:53:06] 2018 or 2019. Um the consultant at the

[2:53:09] time came back and he he recommended an

[2:53:11] NHL size pad because that would

[2:53:13] effectively allow the grow the sport to

[2:53:16] be able to grow, to be able to mature,

[2:53:18] and uh meet sport play for various age

[2:53:20] groups. Um in addition, when we met with

[2:53:23] user groups, specifically within the ice

[2:53:24] hockey community, they overwhelmingly

[2:53:27] supported NHL ice, um and they went so

[2:53:29] far as saying if it's not NHL, we may

[2:53:31] not be able to use it, in particular for

[2:53:33] the older age groups. Um so, that's just

[2:53:36] trying to right-size the current

[2:53:37] facility and and correct some planning

[2:53:39] that we we may have been done in the

[2:53:41] past and be able to slowly and

[2:53:43] moderately increase service levels. Um

[2:53:46] just in terms of the preliminary design,

[2:53:48] so the the intent of preliminary design

[2:53:50] is to seek feedback and change the

[2:53:51] program based on feedback from council.

[2:53:54] Um if we were to move to a smaller pad,

[2:53:56] um then we'd we would still continue

[2:53:58] with the due diligence for that piece,

[2:53:59] um because revenue may be impacted by a

[2:54:01] smaller pad because we may not have the

[2:54:03] same penetration rate. So, we would

[2:54:05] still just continue with our review. Um

[2:54:07] council could certainly approve today

[2:54:09] and and we would continue, but um it

[2:54:11] probably be welcomed for for council for

[2:54:13] us to come back and be able to tweak

[2:54:15] those numbers based on a a revised

[2:54:17] program for a community size rink,

[2:54:19] should it be approved today.

[2:54:21] >> Okay.

[2:54:22] » Okay.

[2:54:22] Thank you. Uh Deputy Mayor has not

[2:54:25] spoken yet, so go ahead, Deputy Mayor,

[2:54:26] please.

[2:54:28] >> Thank you, Mayor Norcross. Um and and I

[2:54:31] » Thank you, Mayor Norcross. Um and and I

[2:54:31] do want to communicate to everyone that

[2:54:33] I see a place for all three of these

[2:54:35] facilities in our recreation plan.

[2:54:38] Um I I think we've proved that we need

[2:54:40] them and that we want them, but what we

[2:54:43] can't do is pull the trigger on all

[2:54:45] three at once. I mean, me personally

[2:54:48] can't afford the tax increase.

[2:54:50] Um it it would uh

[2:54:52] it would put us too close to our debt

[2:54:54] threshold and unprepared for

[2:54:56] emergencies.

[2:54:58] Uh so that was part of uh the reason

[2:55:00] that I I supported the deferrals. We

[2:55:03] know we're going to grow and we're going

[2:55:04] to grow big and fast, but we're stalled

[2:55:07] right now cuz we have no water. So

[2:55:09] development has been

[2:55:11] almost non-existent in New Tecumseth,

[2:55:13] which means we don't get new residents

[2:55:15] that pay taxes as well. We're not

[2:55:17] getting DCs, the province is chopping

[2:55:19] the DCs. Uh we call rec DCs soft DCs, uh

[2:55:23] not hard DCs like water and roads. Um so

[2:55:28] we just need to separate these out a

[2:55:29] little bit. We can't do all three at

[2:55:31] once. Um so part of my support of of of

[2:55:35] the of the deferral is, you know, we're

[2:55:38] getting close to having some interim

[2:55:40] water, which hopefully then inspires

[2:55:42] some development, which inspires

[2:55:44] taxpayers to move here and development

[2:55:46] charges to be paid.

[2:55:48] Um

[2:55:50] I just I do want to note for the record

[2:55:52] that

[2:55:54] these three on the agenda is I feel

[2:55:56] personally very uncomfortable to be

[2:55:58] doing in the middle of an election

[2:56:01] when we're so soon to having the

[2:56:03] possibility of different

[2:56:05] decision-makers next term and laying

[2:56:09] this all at their feet when we know the

[2:56:12] finances are quite precarious if we do

[2:56:14] all three at once is not something I'm

[2:56:16] I'm super comfortable with.

[2:56:19] Um you know, there's been a lot of talk

[2:56:21] about the the domino effect. We need

[2:56:23] this to happen, so this happens, so that

[2:56:25] happens. And my experience in um the

[2:56:28] municipal world is the dominoes almost

[2:56:31] never fall like you need them to, ever.

[2:56:35] So, I do and and I do feel that our

[2:56:39] whole recreation program has been

[2:56:41] stalled because as

[2:56:44] as it's been referred to before in Town

[2:56:46] of New Tecumseth budgets years ago, the

[2:56:49] white elephant in the room is always the

[2:56:51] beaten arena.

[2:56:52] It's always the beaten arena. So, I feel

[2:56:55] like our whole rec plan has been stalled

[2:56:57] by continuously for literally half my

[2:57:00] entire life of doing nothing. It's time

[2:57:03] to do something. It's time to get

[2:57:05] working on how we make the the sports

[2:57:07] dome and the and the pool work because I

[2:57:10] see them fitting in our rec plan.

[2:57:12] Um so, those are those are my comments.

[2:57:16] Thank you.

[2:57:18] >> Thank you. I'll go to Councillor Masters

[2:57:20] » Thank you. I'll go to Councillor Masters

[2:57:20] and then I'll wrap it up and I'll call

[2:57:21] the vote.

[2:57:23] >> Uh thank you, Worship.

[2:57:25] » Uh thank you, Worship.

[2:57:25] Everything I've heard tonight all makes

[2:57:27] sense. You know, I absolutely approve

[2:57:30] all these three projects.

[2:57:32] They've been needed for a long time.

[2:57:35] I've got two questions. The first

[2:57:37] question is to the the company the

[2:57:40] design guys.

[2:57:43] When Faber originally

[2:57:45] set up set themselves to get this arena

[2:57:50] built,

[2:57:51] they used I think it was James Fryatt

[2:57:55] uh architects to build do the first

[2:57:58] drawing for us and they did. Um

[2:58:01] one of the things that they did was a

[2:58:03] they created created the design for the

[2:58:06] arena to be set back from the main

[2:58:08] street to create a town square so that

[2:58:13] the library and the town hall and was

[2:58:17] and the arena entrance was offset.

[2:58:21] I'm looking at the design right now the

[2:58:22] arena's right on the town right on the

[2:58:25] pavement.

[2:58:26] So you know

[2:58:28] is this because of the the the proposed

[2:58:31] NHL size rink or is that just generally

[2:58:35] where you thought it would be best

[2:58:36] situated? One of the things that we

[2:58:38] always wanted to do with the town of

[2:58:40] Beeton is try and keep its old

[2:58:42] historical look. There's a lot of

[2:58:45] history in that town and and that's when

[2:58:48] the FAB organization came together that

[2:58:50] was a big consideration and that's why

[2:58:52] it was done that way. The town actually

[2:58:55] expropriated those houses in front there

[2:58:57] to make that happen.

[2:58:59] So that's my first question. Is that is

[2:59:02] that because of the ice or is that

[2:59:03] because where you thought it was best to

[2:59:05] put it?

[2:59:06] Um

[2:59:08] The second comment

[2:59:09] I just want to make in general is that

[2:59:12] everybody knows that we

[2:59:14] you know we're we're behind in our

[2:59:16] development and

[2:59:19] I I believe the number that was thrown

[2:59:21] out this year earlier on was that we

[2:59:23] have something like 300 million plus in

[2:59:25] DCs outstanding with houses that have

[2:59:27] been basically approved to be built but

[2:59:29] we can't build them because of water and

[2:59:31] I put that question to the CEO to to

[2:59:34] maybe give us some input on this. So we

[2:59:36] all know that the that

[2:59:39] the New Tecumseth is probably one of the

[2:59:41] fastest growing communities in Canada

[2:59:44] today and we know that there's huge

[2:59:47] development coming here and with it will

[2:59:48] come the money. So what we're I think

[2:59:51] we're looking from a financial

[2:59:52] standpoint is an an interim look and I

[2:59:55] know that we have the new the new

[2:59:58] we've got

[3:00:00] you know maybe new people coming on the

[3:00:01] council next year but I I I think that

[3:00:04] this is a big number. I wouldn't want to

[3:00:06] put that on to new people coming in here

[3:00:08] and and trying to make that kind of

[3:00:10] decision you know.

[3:00:12] But anyway, so that's my two questions.

[3:00:15] The one is on where why are we up

[3:00:17] against the the the sidewalk in beaten

[3:00:20] and number two is, you know, where are

[3:00:22] we with our with our the books right now

[3:00:25] financially as far as

[3:00:27] the development that's sitting on the

[3:00:28] books right now to be built that once

[3:00:30] that water hits that, you know, how much

[3:00:32] are we looking at and DC's coming in

[3:00:34] right now. That's my second question.

[3:00:36] Thank you.

[3:00:37] >> Thank you. I'm going to go to um

[3:00:40] » Thank you. I'm going to go to um

[3:00:40] I'm going to go to the CAO cuz maybe you

[3:00:42] could answer the first question is

[3:00:45] what is water available for development

[3:00:47] right now? I believe is what you're

[3:00:48] asking, counselor.

[3:00:50] Or when is it available? Go ahead.

[3:00:54] Yeah, I think the CAO has it.

[3:00:56] >> So through you, Mr. Mayor, to the

[3:00:58] » So through you, Mr. Mayor, to the

[3:00:59] counselor, um interim water actually

[3:01:01] will flow starting tomorrow or actually

[3:01:04] yesterday.

[3:01:06] It's available now. So there is some

[3:01:09] there is available

[3:01:11] uh

[3:01:11] water for

[3:01:13] I think it's around 2,500 units.

[3:01:16] Uh so that is not a barrier to

[3:01:18] development. More of the economy is a

[3:01:19] barrier to development than anything

[3:01:21] else.

[3:01:22] Uh as far as forecasted development

[3:01:24] charges, I would have to

[3:01:27] defer that to to to our treasurer.

[3:01:29] >> Okay, so the water is flowing today, so

[3:01:32] » Okay, so the water is flowing today, so

[3:01:32] that's fine then. Director Gallant, can

[3:01:34] I refer that second question to you?

[3:01:38] » Yes, thank you, your worship. Um

[3:01:41] if we're if we're assuming 500 new units

[3:01:44] would come in the short term, um we'd be

[3:01:47] looking at approximately 47 and 1/2

[3:01:50] million dollars in development charges.

[3:01:53] Um one of the points you raised, which I

[3:01:55] think related to the development charge

[3:01:57] credits we have on the books. So we do

[3:01:59] have some infrastructure that developers

[3:02:01] have built um in exchange for being able

[3:02:05] to offset their permit development

[3:02:07] charge fees. So, we have approximately

[3:02:09] $33 million

[3:02:11] outstanding in DC credits that would

[3:02:14] offset a portion of this $47 Sorry, $47

[3:02:18] million.

[3:02:21] >> Okay, that's fine. Thank you. I'm going

[3:02:22] » Okay, that's fine. Thank you. I'm going

[3:02:22] to go to Deputy Clerk, please. Um

[3:02:25] Councillor Harrison McIntyre, then I'm

[3:02:26] going to call the vote, please.

[3:02:29] Sorry, what was Sorry, 1 second,

[3:02:31] Councillor.

[3:02:32] Sorry, I apologize. I apologize. Your

[3:02:34] second question is why is it moved up to

[3:02:36] the sidewalk? I think that was just a

[3:02:38] proposal or do you have a a quick

[3:02:40] answer, please?

[3:02:42] Go ahead.

[3:02:42] >> Through the worship to council. So,

[3:02:44] » Through the worship to council. So,

[3:02:44] um you might have

[3:02:46] remember in the presentation we gave, we

[3:02:48] talked about 15 m setback from the

[3:02:50] watercourse on the west side of the

[3:02:52] site. So, that does encroach on the

[3:02:55] length of the building and how far we

[3:02:57] can push off Main Street.

[3:02:59] Um if the option is pursued more, we can

[3:03:02] dig into that setback and get more

[3:03:04] information and then that could

[3:03:06] influence where we're positioning it and

[3:03:08] how close it becomes to Main Street. So,

[3:03:11] I wouldn't say that exact frontage is

[3:03:13] fixed, um but it is influenced by that

[3:03:16] setback watercourse condition.

[3:03:18] >> Thank you very much. Oh, Councillor

[3:03:20] » Thank you very much. Oh, Councillor

[3:03:20] Harrison McIntyre, please, and then I'll

[3:03:21] call the vote.

[3:03:22] >> Thank you. I just wanted to make a

[3:03:23] » Thank you. I just wanted to make a

[3:03:23] friendly amendment to the motion that um

[3:03:26] the sizing of the arena is

[3:03:29] um still to be determined.

[3:03:34] When Councillor Cox said community

[3:03:36] sized, I don't know if that's a

[3:03:37] technical term or if it's just

[3:03:40] um

[3:03:41] looking for feedback from the community.

[3:03:43] So, that's what I want to have a little

[3:03:44] bit more discussion on um and find out

[3:03:47] do all of our user groups want it the

[3:03:49] NHL size or is um a smaller size better

[3:03:52] for the ball hockey? And so, I don't

[3:03:55] want to decide on the size right now.

[3:03:56] Just I want to move forward with the

[3:03:59] motion otherwise with everything else as

[3:04:02] is.

[3:04:03] >> Thank you. Um

[3:04:04] » Thank you. Um

[3:04:04] I'll go to Councillor Cox. Do you accept

[3:04:06] a friendly amendment?

[3:04:08] >> I do. It's not a technical term.

[3:04:10] » I do. It's not a technical term.

[3:04:10] >> Thank you. Deputy

[3:04:12] » Thank you. Deputy

[3:04:12] Sorry, Councillor Masters, do you accept

[3:04:13] that? Okay, thank you. So

[3:04:17] the motion's on the floor. You have that

[3:04:18] motion.

[3:04:20] Uh Madam Clerk, and sorry, Director

[3:04:23] Hobbs, please. Mops.

[3:04:26] >> Sorry, Mayor Mayor Norcross, it's for

[3:04:28] » Sorry, Mayor Mayor Norcross, it's for

[3:04:28] you to Councillor Cox. Councillor Cox,

[3:04:30] I'm just hoping if it's possible to add

[3:04:31] some specific language to the grant

[3:04:33] request, and the reason being is staff

[3:04:35] would like to

[3:04:36] pursue grants opportunities, should this

[3:04:38] be passed.

[3:04:39] So I'm hoping that council would

[3:04:41] consider further that council directs

[3:04:43] staff to apply for all available grant

[3:04:45] funding opportunities

[3:04:47] for the project,

[3:04:49] um including, but not limited to, the

[3:04:51] Build Community Strong Fund Direct

[3:04:53] Delivery Stream, the Enabling

[3:04:54] Accessibility Fund, the Green Municipal

[3:04:56] Fund, and the Community Sport and

[3:04:58] Recreation Infrastructure Fund Stream 2,

[3:05:00] as well as other partnerships and

[3:05:01] program opportunities. And the reason

[3:05:03] being is we removed that language

[3:05:05] directly from the the grant opportunity.

[3:05:07] So just allow staff to be able to to

[3:05:09] pursue those those opportunities.

[3:05:11] >> Is it possible to leave it that any and

[3:05:14] » Is it possible to leave it that any and

[3:05:14] all grants that are available from any

[3:05:16] level of government that we will pursue?

[3:05:18] Would that be sufficient, or do you need

[3:05:20] that to be specific?

[3:05:22] Cuz there's no way the clerk's going to

[3:05:23] catch all that right now. So go ahead,

[3:05:25] Director Mops.

[3:05:27] >> If it's okay with you, Mayor Norcross,

[3:05:29] » If it's okay with you, Mayor Norcross,

[3:05:29] if I send that to the clerk to include

[3:05:30] afterwards, just the language was

[3:05:32] specifically um

[3:05:34] uh required for the grant applications.

[3:05:36] So I can forward it to you afterwards.

[3:05:37] >> Thank you, Council. Is everybody in

[3:05:39] » Thank you, Council. Is everybody in

[3:05:39] agreement with that? That it will be

[3:05:40] sent later?

[3:05:42] Okay, and Councillor Cox, you agree. So

[3:05:44] we have a motion duly moved and

[3:05:46] seconded. All those in favor, please.

[3:05:50] 1 2 3 4 5 6.

[3:05:55] So so it

[3:05:57] the motion passes.

[3:05:59] Okay.

[3:06:09] Well, thank you everybody for coming out

[3:06:10] tonight and we greatly appreciate it.

[3:06:14] And um

[3:06:22] Joy have a a confirming bylaw sorry of

[3:06:24] just 20 seconds.

[3:06:26] Be resolved the bylaw 2026-058

[3:06:29] to confirm the proceedings of special

[3:06:31] counsel at its meeting on June 17, 2026

[3:06:34] be read a first

[3:06:35] second and third time and enacted.

[3:06:37] Counselor Rappin, would you move that?

[3:06:39] Thank you. Counselor Gabrick, would you

[3:06:40] second that?

[3:06:41] Thank you. All those in favor?

[3:06:44] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to

[3:06:45] everybody that came out tonight,

[3:06:47] expressed your opinions, and gave so

[3:06:48] freely of your time. We've moved

[3:06:50] forward.

[3:06:53] >> [applause]

[3:06:54] » [applause]

[3:06:54] >> So, we have a German be resolved the

[3:06:57] » So, we have a German be resolved the

[3:06:57] meeting adjourned at 8:05

[3:07:00] and uh

[3:07:01] Counselor Cox and Counselor Best.

[3:07:04] All those in favor? Thank you.

Special Council Meeting - 17 Jun 2026

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