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It is 6:32 on August 6th, 2026.
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We will call to order the Board of
Commissioners regularly scheduled meeting.
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With all 5 commissioners here, we do have
a quorum.
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The first item on the agenda is our
prayer,
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and I would like to invite Pastor Squires
from Nolensville First United Methodist.
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Would you bow your heads as I pray?
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Dear wise, loving, and gracious God, known
by many names and beyond all names,
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First, let me say thank you on behalf of
all who have gathered here tonight.
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Thank you for the many abundant blessings.
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Thank you for life itself,
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for the measure of health we need to
fulfill our callings, for sustenance,
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and for friendship. We ask your blessings
on the people who have been called to lead
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the community in which we live and work
and play.
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Give them personal peace in their lives
and joy in their task.
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Bless our agenda for this evening to be
fruitful and for the common good.
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Grant that our mayor and board of
commissioners have ears to listen to the
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commissioners have ears to listen to the
people
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they serve and the wisdom to act for
justice.
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Help them as leaders to not ask first, how
do we fix this,
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but what do we need to learn? How might we
need to change?
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And to whom do we need to listen?
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Remind them, because we all forget from
time to time,
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especially in the noisiness of what passes
for political debate and dialogue today,
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especially during a campaign season,
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that they're not only leaders but also
servants.
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And it is their responsibility and ours to
serve the common good for all.
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Remind them that no matter where we live,
everyone is our neighbor.
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Remind us all of that fact as well, and
that throughout the ages,
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prophets have called the leaders of the
people to respect and protect the least of
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those among us: our children, the elderly,
the poor, those who are hungry,
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those who have no homes, those who are ill
in body, mind, or spirit,
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the strangers in our midst, those who live
on the margins, and those who are alone.
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And those who are forgotten.
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Graciously grant us tonight your guidance
as we begin this meeting,
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and grant them and us the wisdom and
courage to know and do what is right and
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courage to know and do what is right and
good
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and true, and the best path when there are
several.
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Help us now engage in meaningful
discussion.
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Allow us to grow closer as a group and
nurture the bonds of community and the
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ability to work together in harmony, even
when there is honest disagreement.
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May they and we speak out when it's time
to speak out.
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And listen patiently and receptively when
it's time to listen.
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May they and we always be guided by the
spirit of the community,
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by the spirit of justice, and most of all,
by the spirit of love.
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This we pray in the name of all that we
hold sacred and holy, all that we hold
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hold sacred and holy, all that we hold
good,
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right, and true. It is in your blessed
name, for which me is found in Jesus.
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May it be so for all of us. And everyone
who'd like to said—
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Amen.
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Amen.
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Thank you. Please join me in the Pledge of
Allegiance.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the
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United States of America and to the
republic
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for which it stands, one nation under God,
indivisible,
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with liberty and justice for all.
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The next item on the agenda is approval of
the agenda. Is there a motion?
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Motion to approve.
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Second.
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Any discussion for the agenda? All in
favor of the agenda signify by saying aye.
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Aye.
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All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
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The next item on the agenda is approval of
the minutes for the regular meeting
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for July 6th, 2026. Is there a motion?
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Motion to approve.
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Second.
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We have a motion to approve by
Commissioner Gill and a second by
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Commissioner Gill and a second by
Commissioner
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Carpenter. Any discussion on the minutes
for July 6th?
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There is a scrivener's error for
Resolution 26-044 with the motion being
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Resolution 26-044 with the motion being
made by
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Vice Mayor Salamita,
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but we've been advised that that's not
something that has to be changed in the
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minutes by a motion to amend. It's just—
since it's just a scrivener's error.
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Any other discussion for the minutes for
July 6th?
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All in favor signify by saying aye.
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Aye.
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All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
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The next item on the agenda is approval of
the minutes for the public hearing
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of July 6th, 2026. Is there a motion?
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Motion to approve.
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We have a motion to approve by
Commissioner Struford and a little bit of
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Commissioner Struford and a little bit of
a
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live stream going on down by Commissioner
Gill,
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but I have yet to hear a second.
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Second.
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Second by Vice Mayor Salamita.
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Any discussion for the public hearing for
July 6th?
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All in favor signify by saying aye.
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Aye.
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All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
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The next item on the agenda is our pinning
ceremony for Engineer Nick Thompson.
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I'd like to invite Chief Lupo up.
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Ready?
[4:42]
Okay.
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All right, get my notes here. One more
time for our pinning ceremony here.
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Um, we'll add the—
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change it up a little bit from, from my
usual speech, but, uh, In the service,
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the badge represents more than just a
position or a rank to us.
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It symbolizes the trust, the duty,
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and the sacrifice and commitment we have
to serve our community and other people
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here. This ceremony also recognizes the
support of family and friends and
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support of family and friends and
colleagues
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as well, and the mentors who have worked
with,
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with him through over his years of service
here to help make this achievement
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possible. So we're going to have, um, New
Nick.
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New Nick.
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We've got multiple Nicks now, so we got
New Nick.
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He comes to us from Manchester,
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who quickly returned the favor and
challenged us to the ice bucket challenge,
[5:34]
so we had to perform that for them. 9
years of total service in the fire
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years of total service in the fire
service.
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He has pretty much achieved his
requirements shortly before we hired him
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requirements shortly before we hired him
to be an
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engineer, so he came straight into us as
an engineer.
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Uh, on A shift and, uh, hopefully be
serving here for a while.
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So we'll go ahead and bring you up.
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Uh, he'll be getting pinned by his mother,
Kim, today. Make sure—
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I get sticky?
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Do you want to step back a little bit
further towards the
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bench so you can get a good picture?
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There's your mother's pills.
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I'm doing my best not to poke the kid.
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Once it's through the first hole, you just
let it hang.
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It'll be good.
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It's not fitting
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in.
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Thank you,
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Chief,
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and
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congratulations
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to Engineer Nick
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Thompson.
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Our next item on
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the agenda is
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citizen
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comments,
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and we have
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Cheryl Hughes
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signed up for
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citizen
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comments.
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And Ms.
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Hughes,
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if you don't
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mind pulling the
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microphone up.
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Yeah.
[8:34]
Hello, I'm Cheryl Hughes, 1752 and 1790
Burke Hollow Road.
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I have some comments about the Van Slyke
annexation request.
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The back of the property runs to Burke
Hollow Road. I grew up in Burke Hollow.
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I went 4 hours away to college and I have
lived away,
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but I've always spent time at home as my
parents lived out their lives there.
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Our mother was the last to pass 2 years
ago,
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so it's me and my siblings and 225 acres
and 3 parcels in question.
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One parcel is elsewhere.
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And we aren't selling any of it because
Burke Hollow is lovely,
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but it's easy to remain in a place I have
a history with.
[9:19]
The Burke Hollow area has been zoned RD-5
since at least the late '80s.
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It didn't just revert to RD-5 with that
2020 County Commission vote like other
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unincorporated areas such as Bethesda or
College Grove,
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which were zoned 1 or 2 acres per unit
prior.
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The 2012 county zoning document described
Burke Hollow as the area east of I-65 and
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Leiper's Fork west of 65 as the 2 areas
reserved to preserve and encourage rural
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reserved to preserve and encourage rural
and
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agricultural pursuits. I chose to stay.
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In contrast, the people who have moved
into Burke Hollow in the last 30 years
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into Burke Hollow in the last 30 years
chose
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a rural area over a subdivision or being
inside the city limits.
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Thank you.
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They chose no sidewalks, municipal fire
department, fire hydrants,
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streetlights outside the perimeter of
pizza delivery,
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and 15 to 20 minutes to the nearest
grocery or restaurants.
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The flip side is that we get to enjoy
daily the unspoiled hills and pastures,
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hawks screaming overhead, owls hooting at
night, elbow room and space.
[10:29]
Little noise and less traffic. Kids
skateboard on the road.
[10:33]
People jog, walk dogs, ride horses.
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We have streams of cyclists because they
get a workout on the hills,
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and motorcyclists love the winding curves.
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People hunt and trap, practice target
shooting as we're in the county,
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so gunfire is common. Farming is still
going on.
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So these people chose a rural way of life.
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If they had wanted to live in a
high-density area,
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they could have chosen Ballinger Farms
with homes on a quarter acre,
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McFarland Woods half-acre lots, or
Barrington's one-acre lots on Highway 96.
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And all of those things I listed that
Hollow— that the Hollow is without.
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Each of us in the Hollow have chosen rural
living as our quality of life,
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and we have a right to maintain that
quality of life.
[11:23]
Thank you.
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that we as property owners have invested
so much money, time,
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and effort in creating. We don't want
development encroaching on our way of
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development encroaching on our way of
life.
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So for all of these reasons,
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I'm opposed to a subdivision that runs
onto Burke Hollow Road.
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Thank you for your time and for your
service to the town.
[11:43]
Thank you. Anyone else for citizen
comments that did not have the opportunity
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comments that did not have the opportunity
to
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sign up? The next item on the agenda is an
announcement and report from our town
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manager.
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The first thing that we need to look at
with regard to this is the,
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the Resolution 260-90.
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It was a resolution to,
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to basically renew the interlocal
agreement between Williamson County and
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agreement between Williamson County and
Town of
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Nolensville for the firefighting services
that we provide.
[12:13]
It's basically a reimbursement for the
firefighting services that we provide.
[12:19]
They sent that to us last week and said,
oh, we need to get this renewed.
[12:24]
So that's why it was not on your work
session agenda.
[12:28]
It actually did expire at the end of— or
right at the beginning of July.
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So, um, this is something that We need to
move—
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if you all are still okay with the
agreement that we developed with the
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agreement that we developed with the
county.
[12:43]
So this is something that we would need to
renew, put back in place.
[12:49]
And basically what it does is gives us a
reimbursement every time our trucks roll
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and go into the county.
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Where would you like to move it to the
agenda?
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You can move it in even as the last item
of the agenda if you want to.
[13:04]
That's not a problem with me.
[13:06]
We just—
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it's just something that we need to
address.
[13:08]
So you want it under new but 11?
[13:14]
Yeah, you could put it as 11.
[13:16]
Okay, motion to move, uh,
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Resolution 26-090 to now be part of new
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business item 11.
[13:25]
Second.
[13:26]
Any discussion on the motion to move
Resolution
[13:30]
26-090? All in favor of the motion signify
by saying
[13:35]
aye.
[13:35]
Aye.
[13:36]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[13:38]
Second thing that I wanted to address
tonight is, um, we just saw our,
[13:43]
our chief do a pinning ceremony, and, and
tonight is our chief's last hours with us.
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Uh, today was his last official day,
[13:53]
and he has taken a job as chief up in I've
forgotten the county name, uh, the, uh,
[13:59]
um, Reno Township. Exactly, in Michigan,
uh, back going— being able to go back
[14:05]
uh, back going— being able to go back
home.
[14:05]
And, uh, and I think just as we heard the
last speaker made a choice to go back
[14:11]
home, that's always a great thing when,
when someone's able to do that.
[14:17]
And, uh, so congratulations on being able
to To get back to your, your home area.
[14:23]
Uh, when Matthew joined us in, I think,
2021, spring of 2021, um,
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we didn't know him that well.
[14:31]
David knew him, I guess, a little bit,
but, but he had, uh,
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he came with great credentials.
[14:38]
And while he was with us,
[14:39]
Matthew completed his master's degree and
then also executive fire school.
[14:45]
Is that a fire officer school? Uh, with
us.
[14:49]
Yeah.
[14:49]
And has just excelled.
[14:51]
And he was our first fire marshal,
[14:54]
did an outstanding job in setting up that
program,
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and has done very well as our chief after
David left.
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And so he's definitely going to be missed.
[15:08]
But Matthew, just want to say thank you so
much for all the contributions
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you have made to the town of Nolensville.
[15:19]
And you can probably just come on up here
because we're going to get a
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picture with you on your last, your last
night.
[15:30]
Oh, she loves this.
[15:32]
Well, you put that resolution at the very
end so I'm here the whole time.
[15:36]
There was a reason.
[16:01]
All right, I'll go first and then Katie
can
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do hers, even though ladies should go
first.
[16:12]
Ready? 1, 2, 3.
[16:15]
Perfect.
[16:16]
1, 2, 3.
[16:20]
Okay, thank you.
[16:44]
I would add to that announcement that we
have asked Captain Weingart to kind of
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have asked Captain Weingart to kind of
step
[16:50]
up and be our interim chief as we go
through the process of selecting the new
[16:55]
through the process of selecting the new
chief.
[16:55]
So we'll have Adam as the one that we will
be reaching out to to work through things
[17:01]
on the day-to-day basis. He'll still And
have to command his shift and what all.
[17:07]
So it's, uh, it's, it's, it's big double
duty, but, uh,
[17:10]
they have kind of spread the workload out
so that it's not overwhelming.
[17:15]
Hopefully won't be overwhelming on him
alone.
[17:19]
Uh, uh, we sure would appreciate that
administrative assistant sooner than
[17:24]
administrative assistant sooner than
later.
[17:24]
Um, so anyway, uh, we're looking forward
to a, a good process.
[17:28]
Kelly has already been reaching out to
MTAS to get that process put into place.
[17:34]
And I think— did we get that advertised
this morning?
[17:38]
So the position's posted tomorrow. So, um,
anyway, so congratulations, Matthew.
[17:43]
Congratulations, and thank you, Adam, as
well.
[17:48]
That's all I've got.
[17:48]
Thank you, Victor. The next item on the
agenda is our report from the town
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agenda is our report from the town
attorney.
[17:57]
The impact fee oral argument was held
yesterday.
[18:01]
We should expect a ruling sometime in the
next 3 to 9 months,
[18:05]
hopefully on the shorter side of that.
[18:09]
And the Lamar billboard argument in trial
court is set for August 11th.
[18:14]
Okay. The next item on the agenda is our
consent agenda.
[18:18]
Before we vote on the consent agenda,
[18:20]
I do want to note that the fire department
report will be updated on the agenda
[18:26]
because the report that is there is not
actually the report.
[18:30]
I guess I should have asked this before we
started.
[18:33]
Does that need to be pulled from the
consent agenda and considered separately
[18:38]
consent agenda and considered separately
since
[18:39]
it has to be updated?
[18:40]
Okay, so we'll pull the fire department
report from the consent agenda.
[18:45]
Is there a motion for the consent agenda
minus the fire department report?
[18:50]
So moved.
[18:51]
Second.
[18:52]
All in favor of the consent agenda signify
by saying aye.
[18:55]
Aye.
[18:55]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[18:58]
So Matthew sent an updated fire department
report, um, just before,
[19:03]
just before the meeting.
[19:04]
It is the standard report,
[19:06]
but there was just an error with December
numbers on the previous one,
[19:11]
and then I think it said April as the
subject line.
[19:14]
So does anyone have any questions on the
updated fire department report?
[19:19]
All in favor of the fire department report
signify by saying aye.
[19:23]
Aye.
[19:24]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[19:27]
The next item on the agenda is unfinished
business.
[19:31]
Item 1, second reading of Ordinance 26-09,
[19:34]
an ordinance amending the zoning map of
Nolensville,
[19:38]
Tennessee to rezone properties referenced
as Map 058, Parcel 08400, Map 059,
[19:44]
Parcel 07100, and Map 059,
[19:47]
Parcel 07101 in the Williamson County tax
maps from Municipal Growth Area—
[19:52]
Municipal Area District 1, MGA-1, to Rural
Character District CD-2,
[19:58]
Williams property. Is there a motion?
[20:01]
Second.
[20:03]
We have a motion and a second. Any
discussion for second reading of Ordinance
[20:08]
discussion for second reading of Ordinance
26-09?
[20:09]
This item has been discussed at length, so
I don't want to belabor the point,
[20:14]
but this particular property I think is
important to at least have some discussion
[20:20]
with the vote in that it is a key property
in Nolensville's urban growth boundary
[20:26]
that has been a planned future area for
literally decades.
[20:30]
With the east-west connector, that's a
future major thoroughfare.
[20:34]
There's a piece of this property from
Nolensville Road at Williams to
[20:39]
Nolensville Road at Williams to
Clovercroft at
[20:40]
Williams that would be a significant piece
of that east-west connector for the
[20:45]
portion that passes through Nolensville,
not to mention future,
[20:50]
future commercial area that would be
expected to be part of this.
[20:54]
While this annexation really is a
one-to-one annexation from what is zoned
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one-to-one annexation from what is zoned
in the
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county. The prep— what precipitated this,
to my knowledge,
[21:04]
was action by Williamson County to
petition the legislature to no longer give
[21:09]
petition the legislature to no longer give
us the
[21:10]
authority to annex things that were in the
urban growth boundary without approval
[21:16]
from Williamson County.
[21:17]
So the town did not go looking to annex
this piece of property or the other one
[21:23]
that's on the agenda, but we have to
consider what is before us.
[21:27]
And so I'm still in favor of annexation.
[21:30]
Thank you.
[21:31]
But do think there should be some
information shared as part of the vote.
[21:35]
Any other discussion for second reading of
Ordinance 26-09?
[21:38]
I'll just make a quick comment here. I am
not opposed to this annexation.
[21:43]
I think given the history we have with
this property,
[21:46]
I think it's important for us to realize
that when we start down this path,
[21:51]
we are now responsible for Williams Road
as a part of the transportation plan and
[21:56]
what that means. And so that is something
we,
[21:58]
we currently and future boards will need
to consider when we talk about budgeting
[22:03]
for road improvements, widening,
expansions, things like that.
[22:08]
So any other discussion for Ordinance
26-09?
[22:12]
Mayor, I appreciate your commentary as
well as that of Commissioner Struford,
[22:17]
and we have discussed this at length at
several public meetings, More recently,
[22:21]
of course, at our workshop leading up to
this month's voting meeting.
[22:25]
But I think what you said was on target.
[22:27]
It bears referencing, if not repeating the
entire dialogue,
[22:31]
because this is a significant part of
Nolensville's plans for decades now.
[22:35]
It is in our urban growth boundary that's
just right there on the cusp of our,
[22:40]
of our present corporate boundaries.
[22:42]
And yeah, the, the county put us all in a
kind of On notice last year when they
[22:46]
decided to unilaterally move forward with
trying to get our legislature to change
[22:51]
the state statute that would have
withdrawn from our body the ability to
[22:55]
withdrawn from our body the ability to
annex
[22:56]
properties without consent of the county.
[22:58]
So this is a necessary move for a host of
reasons,
[23:01]
and that's being one of them for sure.
[23:03]
And I appreciate the mayor for pointing
that out.
[23:06]
I believe we ought to move forward tonight
and do, do what we've already discussed,
[23:11]
but I think the public visiting with us
tonight,
[23:14]
as well as might be joining us by
livestream,
[23:16]
deserve to hear exactly what we've
discussed in the past and just reference
[23:21]
discussed in the past and just reference
those
[23:21]
conversations.
[23:22]
Thank you. Any other discussion for
Ordinance 26-09?
[23:26]
All in favor signify by saying aye.
[23:30]
Aye.
[23:31]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[23:34]
The next item is Resolution 26-044,
[23:36]
a resolution annexing certain territory
upon written consent of the owners and to
[23:42]
incorporate the same within the boundaries
of the Town of Nolensville, Tennessee.
[23:48]
Tax Map 058, Parcel 08400, also referenced
as 7421 Nolensville Road, Nolensville,
[23:54]
Tennessee 37135. Tax Map 059, Parcel
07100,
[23:57]
also referenced as 7427 Nolensville Road,
Nolensville, Tennessee 37135.
[24:03]
And Tax Map 059, Parcel 07101, also
referenced as 0 Williams Road,
[24:07]
referenced as 0 Williams Road,
Nolensville,
[24:08]
Tennessee 37135. Second.
[24:10]
Williams.
[24:11]
Is there a motion?
[24:12]
Motion to approve.
[24:13]
Second.
[24:14]
We have a motion and a second.
[24:15]
Any discussion for this resolution that is
also paired with the ordinance that we
[24:20]
just discussed? All in favor of the
resolution signify by saying aye.
[24:24]
Aye.
[24:25]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[24:28]
The next item on the agenda is second
reading of Ordinance 26-10,
[24:32]
an ordinance amending the zoning map of
Nolensville,
[24:36]
Tennessee to rezone properties referenced
as Map 083, Parcel 00500 Map 083,
[24:41]
Parcel 00501, Map 083, Parcel 00600, and
Map 058,
[24:45]
Parcel 11300 in the Williamson County tax
maps from Municipal Growth Area District
[24:51]
1, MGA-1, to Rural Character District
CD-2, Vance Lake. Is there a motion?
[24:56]
Motion to approve.
[24:57]
Second.
[24:58]
We have a motion and a second from
Commissioner Carpenter.
[25:01]
Any discussion for second reading of
Ordinance 26-10?
[25:08]
Mayor and Commissioners,
[25:09]
we've had this discussion again in
similarity to the Williams property.
[25:13]
I think what's important, and this does
apply to the Williams property as well,
[25:18]
is we do need to look a little bit deeper
at the zoning to allow a little bit more
[25:22]
flexibility. I know we're in the process
of that right now,
[25:25]
but I think it's important for us to
consider some additional flexibility to
[25:29]
consider some additional flexibility to
allow
[25:30]
the town to get a product that they want
as well as the developers who are part of
[25:34]
this process to get what they want as
well.
[25:36]
So a couple comments about the Vance-Lyke
property.
[25:40]
When we started, these 2 annexations came
together but started about a month apart.
[25:45]
I have expressed support previously of
continuous annexation.
[25:50]
The Vance-Lyke property is continuous— is
contiguous Outside.
[25:54]
I think I said continuous the first time
too. I meant to say contiguous.
[25:59]
I have expressed support of contiguous
annexation that does not unnecessarily
[26:04]
increase density just for the sake of
increasing density.
[26:08]
There have been annexation requests that
the board, including myself,
[26:12]
have voted against. With the Van Slyke
property, there's been several challenges,
[26:18]
one of which is, is how far south it goes.
[26:21]
I think the challenge for the town of
Nolensville and the services that we
[26:26]
Nolensville and the services that we
provide
[26:26]
is an interlocal agreement that we will
consider at the end of this agenda.
[26:31]
And it's something where we provide fire
service to unincorporated Williamson
[26:37]
service to unincorporated Williamson
County
[26:37]
down to our urban growth boundary.
[26:39]
That's not an exact mark of the line, but
down Birkhollow,
[26:43]
we actually provide fire service even
though the people that live on Birkhollow
[26:49]
though the people that live on Birkhollow
do
[26:49]
not pay taxes.
[26:50]
Okay.
[26:50]
to the Town of Nolensville.
[26:52]
It's the same for Silverstream, and it's
also the same south to,
[26:57]
to the Vance Lake property.
[26:59]
And so I think that presents an
interesting conundrum for the town,
[27:04]
because if we're providing services
without the corresponding way that we pay
[27:09]
without the corresponding way that we pay
for
[27:10]
those services, that, that's an issue.
[27:12]
If these annexations were increasing
density outside of what it was already
[27:18]
density outside of what it was already
zoned in
[27:18]
Williamson County, I would have concern
for that.
[27:22]
But this falls into the same category for
me as the Williams annexation.
[27:27]
I think it's unfortunate that the town is,
[27:30]
is being tasked to annex close to 600
acres tonight.
[27:34]
I mean, this is quite possibly the most
total acreage of annexations that the town
[27:40]
has done in any one night that I'm aware
of,
[27:43]
certainly in the last almost 6 years that
I've I've been on the board.
[27:49]
But it still is a fact that if we're going
to continue to have to service these
[27:54]
areas for fire service, it makes sense for
us to annex in our urban growth boundary,
[28:01]
especially when those annexations are
essentially a one-for-one for, um,
[28:06]
what could be developed in, in the county.
[28:09]
One other thing is that this property does
not have sewer capacity.
[28:14]
Neither does the Williams property.
[28:16]
So just because there's an annexation does
not mean that there will be development
[28:22]
anytime soon because we don't have sewer
capacity from Metro.
[28:27]
So I am still in support of the annexation
of the Vance Lake property,
[28:32]
which as of the last ordinance is now a
contiguous annexation within Nolensville's
[28:38]
municipal boundaries. Any other
discussion?
[28:41]
All in favor of second reading of
Ordinance 26-10, signify by saying aye.
[28:47]
Aye.
[28:48]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[28:51]
The next item is Resolution 26-045,
[28:54]
a resolution annexing certain territory
upon written consent of the owners and to
[29:00]
incorporate the same within the boundaries
of the Town of Nolensville, Tennessee.
[29:06]
Tax Map 058, Parcel 11300, also referenced
as 7473 Nolensville Road, Nolensville,
[29:13]
Tennessee 37135. Tax Map 083, Parcel
00501,
[29:16]
also referenced as 7509 Nolensville Road,
Nolensville, Tennessee 37135.
[29:22]
Tax Map 083, Parcel 00500, and Tax Map
083, Parcel 00600,
[29:26]
also referenced as 7511 Nolensville Road,
Nolensville, Tennessee 37135. Van Slyke.
[29:33]
Is there a motion?
[29:34]
Motion to approve.
[29:35]
Second.
[29:37]
We have a motion and a second.
[29:39]
Any discussion on Resolution 26-045,
[29:42]
which does pair with Ordinance 26-11?
[29:45]
All in favor signify by saying aye.
[29:48]
Aye.
[29:48]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[29:51]
The next item on the agenda is new
business, Resolution 26-086,
[29:55]
a resolution granting a certificate of
compliance to Tipsy Cow Wine and Spirits
[30:00]
compliance to Tipsy Cow Wine and Spirits
LLC
[30:00]
for a retail Package Liquor Store at 7344
Nolensville Road, Suite 302,
[30:05]
in Nolensville, Tennessee. Is there a
motion?
[30:07]
Motion to approve.
[30:09]
And a second.
[30:11]
We have a motion and a second by
Commissioner Gill. Any discussion?
[30:17]
I'd just like to say the board does not
pick the names.
[30:21]
We, you know, businesses pick, pick their
own names.
[30:25]
Any other discussion for Resolution 26-08?
All in favor signify by saying aye.
[30:31]
Aye.
[30:32]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[30:34]
First reading of Ordinance 26-15, an
ordinance of the Town of Nolensville,
[30:38]
Tennessee, amending plan review,
permitting,
[30:41]
and inspection fees contained in Appendix
B of the Town of Nolensville Municipal
[30:45]
Code. Is there a motion? Motion to
approve. Is there a second?
[30:48]
Second.
[30:49]
Any discussion? Chuck, did you have
anything to add, or just for questions?
[30:55]
Just as a point of interest on this
ordinance on first reading,
[31:00]
we will be presenting some further
amendment to you at the upcoming work
[31:06]
amendment to you at the upcoming work
session.
[31:06]
So keep an open perspective on that.
[31:09]
We're doing our best to streamline fees as
we implement our online portal system.
[31:15]
And so there was another thought to
consolidate and simplify our fee
[31:20]
consolidate and simplify our fee
structure.
[31:21]
Yes.
[31:21]
as they relate to plumbing permits.
[31:23]
So we'll be coming back to you all with
some adjustments in that in a future time.
[31:27]
Thank you. Any other discussion? All in
favor signify by saying aye.
[31:33]
Aye.
[31:33]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[31:37]
The next item on the agenda is first
reading of Ordinance 26-14,
[31:43]
an ordinance amending the zoning map of
Nolensville,
[31:47]
Tennessee to rezone property referenced as
Tax Map 033, Parcel 10400 in Um,
[31:54]
in the Williamson County tax maps from
Municipal Growth Area District 1, MGA-1,
[32:01]
to neighbor— to Neighborhood Character
District CD-3, Traver Ringman.
[32:07]
Is there a motion? Ordinance fails for
lack of a motion.
[32:12]
Is that the correct terminology?
[32:16]
Okay.
[32:17]
The next item on the agenda is Resolution
26-077,
[32:20]
a resolution calling for a public hearing
on the proposed annexation of territory
[32:25]
into the Town of Nolensville by owner
consent and approving a plan of services.
[32:30]
Tennessee Tax Map 033, Parcel 10400, also
referenced as 0 Kidd Road, Nolensville,
[32:35]
Tennessee 37135, Tarver Ringman. Is there
a motion?
[32:38]
So moved.
[32:42]
Resolution fails for lack of a motion.
[32:44]
The next item on the agenda is Resolution
26-078,
[32:48]
a resolution to amend the terms of the
Nolensville Buttercup Festival Committee.
[32:53]
Is there a motion?
[32:54]
Motion to approve.
[32:55]
Is there a second?
[32:57]
Second.
[32:58]
That was kind of a tie.
[33:00]
He can have it.
[33:01]
Uh, second by Commissioner Struford.
[33:05]
Any discussion on Resolution 26-078?
[33:09]
So I did contact all of the current
members
[33:15]
on the committee.
[33:17]
They all expressed interest in staying on
the committee,
[33:20]
and they did think that the dates that you
all chose will be—
[33:23]
make sure that they can plan a successful
event.
[33:25]
Thank you, Montique.
[33:27]
Any other discussion for Resolution
26-078?
[33:32]
All in favor signify by saying aye.
[33:35]
Aye.
[33:36]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[33:38]
Item 6, Resolution 26-082,
[33:40]
a resolution authorizing purchase of a
vehicle through Tennessee Statewide
[33:45]
vehicle through Tennessee Statewide
Contract
[33:45]
for Fire and Rescue. Is there a motion?
[33:47]
Motion to approve.
[33:48]
Second.
[33:49]
It's yours.
[33:51]
Motion and a second by Commissioner Gill.
[33:55]
That's—
[33:55]
we have a lot of ties tonight.
[33:57]
I'm telling you.
[34:02]
And Victor is wearing a tie. That is, that
is true.
[34:05]
So is Captain Weingarten.
[34:06]
This is a serious event.
[34:09]
Listen, this could be the chief's last
time. Does that mean we give him a hard
[34:14]
time. Does that mean we give him a hard
time?
[34:14]
I'm just here for questions if you have
any questions.
[34:17]
Do you want to share anything?
[34:20]
Who do you think you are? Leaving us now.
[34:24]
I'm just following Chuck's example up
here.
[34:27]
Just standing, standing waiting.
[34:31]
Okay.
[34:32]
All right. Any discussion on Resolution
26-082?
[34:34]
Oh, Chuck said—
[34:35]
did you have a question?
[34:36]
No.
[34:37]
So just to clarify here, sorry, the plan
is to purchase the truck,
[34:42]
then outfit with equipment?
[34:44]
Yes.
[34:44]
Correct.
[34:45]
Okay.
[34:45]
Thank you.
[34:46]
And I think it bears repeating.
[34:48]
Of course, the funding for this is coming
from fire impact fees.
[34:53]
Thank you.
[34:54]
Any other burning questions for Chief
Lupo?
[34:59]
Oh, I see what you did there. Burning
questions. I see.
[35:02]
Like, it's not as good as Victor's dad
jokes, but I'm trying.
[35:04]
I don't know, Mayor, you used conundrum
earlier tonight. I'm— I was impressed.
[35:08]
I mean, you used ameliorate last week.
[35:12]
And we— before we got underway,
[35:13]
the vice mayor and I discussed the meaning
of the term eleemosynary.
[35:18]
That's a new one.
[35:19]
Anyway, I guess we ought to vote now.
[35:21]
All right, all in favor of Resolution
26-082 signify by saying aye.
[35:28]
Aye.
[35:28]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
The next— thank you, Chief Lupo.
[35:32]
The next item on the agenda is Resolution
26-084,
[35:34]
a resolution expressing support for the
development of a pavilion on the Greystone
[35:38]
Park property in partnership with Friends
of Nolensville Parks.
[35:42]
Motion to approve.
[35:42]
Second.
[35:43]
We have a motion to approve by
Commissioner Carpenter. Was there another
[35:47]
Commissioner Carpenter. Was there another
tie?
[35:47]
No.
[35:48]
And a second by Commissioner Gill. Any
discussion for Resolution 26-084?
[35:53]
Can I just ask for confirmation?
[35:56]
Um, so I know that Victor— there was a
question raised about the pad,
[36:00]
and so I know pricing came to all of us
about the cost of the pad.
[36:04]
One of the questions I had asked was,
[36:07]
is that something that you all are hopeful
to Correct.
[36:10]
And I just wanted to confirm that that was
an actual—
[36:14]
You are using the word hopeful. Would you
like to specify?
[36:18]
When we had talked about it, it seemed
like there was slight confusion over the
[36:22]
like there was slight confusion over the
pad,
[36:22]
so I just wanted to confirm that the
question—
[36:25]
It is my understanding that we will be
funding it.
[36:27]
Perfect. Thank you.
[36:28]
That is all I wanted.
[36:28]
Can I get the pricing information that
y'all got? I also got some.
[36:31]
We can exchange notes.
[36:32]
I think it was sent today.
[36:33]
Oh, okay.
[36:34]
Great.
[36:35]
We can exchange notes.
[36:36]
I will forward you the email that I sent.
[36:38]
Thank you.
[36:40]
All right, any other discussion for
Resolution 26-084?
[36:43]
All in favor signify by saying aye.
[36:46]
Aye.
[36:46]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[36:50]
The next item is Resolution 26-087,
[36:53]
a resolution to approve TDOT Statewide
Partnership Program Agreement contract
[36:59]
Partnership Program Agreement contract
number
[37:00]
260105 for Nolensville Road Widening
Project, PIN 133919.00.
[37:05]
US 31A, US 41A, State Route 11. Is there a
motion?
[37:09]
Motion to approve.
[37:10]
Second.
[37:11]
We have a motion and a second. Any
discussion for Resolution 26-087?
[37:16]
I just think somebody needs to talk about
the significance of what this is.
[37:23]
The Nolensville Road— does anybody else
want to go into it? I mean, I can.
[37:31]
No, Haley.
[37:34]
Um, you know, Commissioner Carpenter
really likes it when I repeat the same
[37:38]
really likes it when I repeat the same
things
[37:39]
over and over again,
[37:40]
so I'll start off by saying I'm most
likely to get yelled at over Nolensville
[37:45]
likely to get yelled at over Nolensville
Road.
[37:45]
And actually, during the election,
[37:47]
I had a woman walk up to me and ask who
was the mayor of Nolensville because she
[37:52]
really wanted to punch him in the face.
[37:55]
And it was over traffic, and she actually
was very kind in the end.
[37:59]
But Nolensville Road, I think,
[38:01]
is the undisputed issue within our
community with 1 North-South, um,
[38:05]
1 North-South Road. I think this board was
very, uh,
[38:08]
proactive in the approach that we took to
apply for the Statewide Partnership
[38:13]
Program. It is the only way that TDOT has
identified how to get state routes onto
[38:18]
their 10-year list. So with that
application that was submitted on behalf
[38:23]
application that was submitted on behalf
of the
[38:23]
Town of Nolensville We have already
submitted a check for—
[38:27]
or are in short order submitting a check
for $500,000 for the design and then have
[38:32]
this contract to move forward with that
will start the process for widening
[38:37]
Nolensville Road. I think it's important
for the community to understand that even
[38:42]
though we're on the 10-year list, it does
not mean construction will start tomorrow.
[38:47]
It actually means construction will start
in 10 years.
[38:51]
That is very painful for, I think, anybody
that is along Nolensville Road daily,
[38:56]
as many of us are. But it is a step,
[38:58]
and it is one of very few projects across
the state that were added to the list.
[39:03]
It is not a— it is not something that
every community is able to say that they
[39:08]
every community is able to say that they
got
[39:08]
their state road added to the 10-year
list.
[39:11]
So I am very proud of us being on this
list,
[39:13]
and I hope I believe the rest of the board
is. I hope the community is as well.
[39:18]
It is, it is a big commitment.
[39:20]
The scary part of that commitment is the
financial commitment.
[39:24]
We initially proposed $10.5 million as our
contribution.
[39:28]
That is not how TDOT operates.
[39:30]
TDOT operates where they will give a
specific amount and you have to fund any
[39:34]
overages. So I, I think it's incumbent
upon us as an organization with staff to
[39:39]
upon us as an organization with staff to
work
[39:40]
very closely with TDOT to try to keep this
project within scope, within budget,
[39:45]
because it is a significant financial
contribution.
[39:48]
It's almost equal to one year's
operational budget for the Town of
[39:52]
operational budget for the Town of
Nolensville,
[39:53]
and when it was submitted, it was closer
to it than what the budget is for '71.
[39:58]
So I think that we should move forward
with this.
[40:01]
I think Nolensville Road has always been a
key for economic development.
[40:05]
Our businesses need to be able to have— I
think that's a great point.
[40:10]
cars be able to come to them to visit
them.
[40:12]
It's also quality of life for the citizens
of Nolensville.
[40:16]
So I hope the board will continue to
support Resolution 26-087.
[40:20]
Oh, I haven't said much tonight, so now is
my chance.
[40:24]
Um, I, uh, I'll just say that I think we
have a lot on our plate right now.
[40:30]
We have a lot of competing Needs that are
not something that we can just push aside.
[40:37]
And I think that this project is, is going
to be the,
[40:41]
the biggest of those things in terms of
longevity,
[40:46]
in terms of how we will remember our time
up here.
[40:50]
Road projects— and I know this goes
without saying,
[40:54]
but there's an economic factor to this.
[40:57]
Um, our town is rapidly growing and we are
getting more commercial,
[41:02]
and I know we all desire even more
commercial.
[41:06]
People have— like the mayor said, people
have to have a way to get there.
[41:12]
And one of the things that— I said this at
the last meeting—
[41:17]
but one of the things that I heard a lot
over the last couple years was that
[41:23]
employees are hard to retain because they
don't want to drive down Nolensville Road.
[41:30]
Right.
[41:31]
Customers are switching to online
ordering, which thankfully we still get
[41:37]
ordering, which thankfully we still get
the,
[41:37]
the benefit of that.
[41:38]
But if we want to, to continue to support
our businesses, to support our people,
[41:45]
this is, this is the best thing that we
can do.
[41:48]
And speaking from a position of, in my
professional life,
[41:52]
seeing a lot of these projects, getting on
this list is huge.
[41:57]
And it's It's really the only way that
this is going to happen.
[42:02]
And so yes, the dollar figure is big,
[42:05]
but we've taken small steps this last
budget cycle to,
[42:09]
to start getting to a place where we, we
will be ready when TDOT calls.
[42:14]
And so I'm actually really proud that I'm
up here and able to vote on this because I
[42:21]
think it's going to be— Thank you.
[42:30]
Please.
[42:30]
Oh, no.
[42:31]
Mayor, I will say that what you and
Commissioner Carpenter offered tonight is
[42:36]
Commissioner Carpenter offered tonight is
right
[42:36]
on point. And I remember the night that we
sat at this desk and we had to hash out
[42:42]
what would be our contribution to this.
[42:44]
And we, we can't discuss this outside of
this room, nor should we be.
[42:49]
And everything we do is in the public eye
and we had to exchange ideas.
[42:53]
And why do we think this figure might work
better than that?
[42:57]
And we came to the $10.5 million figure.
[43:00]
And one thing I will just share with all
of my neighbors across Nolensville,
[43:05]
this is TDOT's program.
[43:06]
This is the way they have chosen to run
their, their business.
[43:10]
And it's a 10-year plan. Nolensville was
not on it a year ago, but we are now.
[43:15]
And it's pay to play.
[43:16]
Okay.
[43:17]
We had to pony up some. And Victor, thank
you for keeping it on the forefront.
[43:21]
Thank you for keeping it where we would be
acting on it.
[43:24]
Mayor, I've had a brief conversation with
our state senator who happens to be the
[43:28]
majority leader of the state Senate, Jack
Johnson.
[43:31]
This is before the TDOT gave us the word
that we were on the list.
[43:35]
And he said to me, he goes, hey,
[43:36]
I saw Haley the other day and I told her
that was huge what y'all did,
[43:40]
the vote y'all took to add $10.5 million.
I'm like, really?
[43:43]
Yeah.
[43:44]
Okay, good. Maybe we'll get some good
news.
[43:46]
And surely enough, like 3 or 4 weeks
later, we got the—
[43:49]
we got the news we were on the list.
[43:50]
It is going to be a decade away, but if we
don't start doing it now,
[43:54]
it'll be 2 decades away before anything
might change for our people.
[43:57]
And the quality of life for the—
[43:59]
for the people that call Nolensville home
would not be impacted unless we took the
[44:03]
steps we— we took. So we ought to say
thank you, um,
[44:05]
to the taxpayers that are going to be
financing this when it—
[44:08]
when the bill comes due. The taxpayers
know we're going to be doing it.
[44:12]
But if I can also say thanks to each of my
colleagues,
[44:14]
I hope the people of Nolens will see that
in this specific vote and hopefully other
[44:18]
votes we've been doing,
[44:19]
that we are trying to do the people's
business and do it well and do it
[44:23]
business and do it well and do it
thoughtfully
[44:23]
up here. And we're acting collegially,
[44:25]
but we're also diving into the details
because that's how we arrived at that
[44:29]
because that's how we arrived at that
$10.5
[44:29]
million figure. We dove into the details.
[44:31]
And lastly, the mayor referenced the dear
lady who was at the polling place.
[44:35]
As I recall, Commissioner Carpenter and I
were standing nearby And I offered,
[44:39]
I said, Haley, do you want me to tell her
that Jake McCalmon's the mayor of
[44:42]
Nolensville? And she goes, nope, I got
this.
[44:45]
So good on you for taking it what it was.
[44:47]
But, um, I was going to send her to say—
[44:48]
I was going to point towards State
Representative Jake McCalmon and say,
[44:52]
that's the mayor of Nolensville right
there, lady. Go talk to him about that.
[44:56]
But no, Haley stood up and took it. So
thank you to everybody in this matter.
[44:59]
All right. Any other discussion for
Resolution 26-087?
[45:04]
All in favor signify by saying aye.
[45:08]
Aye.
[45:09]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[45:11]
The next item is first reading of
Ordinance 26-17,
[45:13]
an ordinance amending the fiscal year 2027
budget by the Board of Commissioners in
[45:17]
the Town of Nolensville, Tennessee. Is
there a motion?
[45:20]
Second.
[45:23]
We have a motion and a second by
Commissioner Carpenter.
[45:27]
Any discussion for first reading of
Ordinance 26-17?
[45:32]
All in favor signify by saying aye.
[45:35]
Aye.
[45:36]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[45:38]
The next item on the agenda is Resolution
26-088,
[45:41]
a resolution to authorize submittal of
results of request for—
[45:44]
request for proposals and recommendation
for contractor to TDEC for Chris Mann
[45:49]
for contractor to TDEC for Chris Mann
Brown
[45:49]
Park project and commitment to initiate
budget amendment to fund a portion of
[45:54]
construction costs not covered by LPRF
grant. Is there a motion?
[45:57]
Motion to approve.
[45:58]
Second.
[45:59]
We have a motion and a second. Any
discussion? All in favor signify by saying
[46:06]
discussion? All in favor signify by saying
aye.
[46:06]
Aye.
[46:07]
All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
[46:10]
That takes us to item 11, which is
Resolution 20— uh, 26-090,
[46:14]
a resolution to approve the interlocal
agreement between Williamson County,
[46:19]
Tennessee, and the Town of Nolensville for
the provision of firefighting Services.
[46:24]
Is there a motion? Motion to approve. Is
there a second?
[46:28]
Second.
[46:29]
With a motion and a second, any
discussion?
[46:31]
Chief Lopu, I'm so glad you get to come up
again.
[46:34]
I feel like we really have to make sure
that, that, uh,
[46:37]
apparently Vice Mayor Salamita wanted to
make sure you were here to the bitter end
[46:41]
of the meeting.
[46:42]
Yes.
[46:43]
Commissioner Strieper, did you have
questions?
[46:47]
Pace has been acceptable.
[46:49]
I already packed my razor, so I didn't get
the chance to shave,
[46:52]
so I apologize for that.
[46:53]
So just to be clear,
[46:55]
and I want this to be clear for everyone,
Victor,
[47:00]
you said this was just sent to us last
week?
[47:03]
Correct.
[47:05]
Relatively soon.
[47:05]
So I think that was— to me, that's the
only surprise in this,
[47:10]
is if it does lapse in July, are we not
tracking that?
[47:13]
Are we waiting for them to call us?
[47:16]
I just— my concern is, was there a
legitimate lapse in cross-service?
[47:21]
It was waiting on them for them to vote on
it from their aspect.
[47:25]
It is just a continuation of the exact
same agreement we had in place,
[47:29]
and as long as we get it resolved on our
end before October 1st,
[47:33]
which would be our next submittal for
payment, then, then they're good.
[47:38]
Okay.
[47:39]
I— as we deal with our own short-staffed,
[47:41]
it's even more important and critical to
have this agreement in place.
[47:45]
So I just want to make sure we weren't
putting ourselves at risk or our residents
[47:50]
putting ourselves at risk or our residents
at
[47:50]
risk at all.
[47:51]
So, okay.
[47:51]
So within the original agreement—
[47:54]
so what's on our agenda is the addendum to
the agreement,
[47:58]
but in the original agreement there is the
provision for $250 per call.
[48:03]
Yes.
[48:04]
For every other agreement we have with
Williamson County For example,
[48:09]
animal control and E911 services, they are
done per capita.
[48:13]
So the total cost of the service is added
up,
[48:16]
and then if there's 17,000 people in
Nolensville and there's increases in
[48:20]
population, there's an increase in the
amount that we pay to Williamson County.
[48:26]
This agreement is not done that way,
[48:28]
and I do understand that Fairview
implemented a similar agreement last year
[48:33]
implemented a similar agreement last year
They're
[48:34]
in a similar situation where they have
use—
[48:36]
our second station is tied to this
agreement and is the Williamson County
[48:41]
agreement and is the Williamson County
building
[48:42]
at the corner, kind of the corner of
Clovercroft and Nolensville Road.
[48:46]
Um, can we talk a little bit about the
$250 per call,
[48:50]
which the updated fire report that came in
earlier tonight for the year from
[48:55]
Williamson County for about 21% of our
total calls going into Williamson County
[49:00]
Equals out to about $35,000 a year.
[49:02]
It's about 70.
[49:04]
So that report that, um,
[49:06]
for the June 2026 said that their
year-to-date
[49:11]
was, uh, 142 calls.
[49:13]
It's a January to December year looking at
from that aspect.
[49:18]
Okay, so it is closer to 70.
[49:20]
Yes.
[49:20]
Um, still with an annual operating budget.
[49:23]
And this is no surprise because this is
the exact same stuff that I said last
[49:28]
the exact same stuff that I said last
time.
[49:28]
I'm going to vote in support of the
agreement, so Spoiler alert.
[49:32]
But I think it's valid that we have to
make sure that we are negotiating what the
[49:38]
cost per call is and make sure that if the
cost that we pay to Williamson County for
[49:43]
other services goes up each year, which it
has,
[49:46]
that we're looking at that for this
agreement as well.
[49:50]
With the timing of this, I,
[49:51]
I'm just curious what kind of negotiations
were included with Williamson County on
[49:57]
the, the cost per call.
[49:58]
And, you know, we're kind of just now
getting final reports,
[50:02]
which is normal time frame for us to get
final reports for,
[50:06]
for June for looking at full fiscal year.
[50:09]
But how are we evaluating that for the
cost of— for the town of Nolensville?
[50:13]
Our intent was to basically continue this
into this next year,
[50:17]
and then we would be reevaluating probably
early in 2027 to see how—
[50:22]
just have discussion with the county.
[50:24]
So then the next time we up our agreement
for July,
[50:28]
that would be where that discussion would
come in prior to that.
[50:32]
So by July, hopefully, of 2027, if we had
to adjust those numbers,
[50:36]
that's when it would take place.
[50:38]
So the, the adjustment, or the way that
the numbers were developed to begin with,
[50:44]
we did them— we looked at it 2 ways.
[50:47]
First of all, we We did an empirical dive
into what we think it costs us to make
[50:52]
that run, provide that service.
[50:55]
And we came up with a dollar figure on
like a—
[50:58]
on what a call would take if it was an
hour-long call or something like that.
[51:03]
And then we turned around and looked at
FEMA reimbursement rates.
[51:08]
What if we are working on a project that's
Or there's an agreement that FEMA will
[51:14]
reimburse us or a city will reimburse us
for the rates.
[51:18]
And what we came out with amazingly is
those numbers were very close.
[51:23]
And so this particular number I think
reflects the FEMA reimbursement rate for
[51:28]
reflects the FEMA reimbursement rate for
that—
[51:29]
for the apparatus that's going out.
[51:31]
So FEMA reimbursement rates are not
operational reimbursement rates though.
[51:36]
That to me has been the consistent
challenge with the arrangement that I
[51:41]
challenge with the arrangement that I
still want
[51:41]
to publicly voice as a long-term concern.
[51:44]
I'm also curious if, because we have 2
neighborhoods that are in our fire
[51:48]
neighborhoods that are in our fire
district,
[51:49]
one being Silver Stream and the other
being The Farm,
[51:52]
if there's been any review of like— and I
don't even know if these are legal,
[51:57]
but like subscription-based services.
[52:00]
I know there are other communities that do
that.
[52:03]
Yes.
[52:04]
How have we explored those types of models
to ensure that as the demand for services
[52:10]
within the town of Nolensville goes up,
[52:13]
that we are first and foremost serving the
town of Nolensville taxpayers?
[52:19]
Last year, the, the tax rate increased to,
to cover costs for service,
[52:24]
and I think it's important for us to to
make sure that we're evaluating that.
[52:29]
This wasn't on our workshop,
[52:31]
so I didn't have the benefit of asking
these questions in a workshop,
[52:36]
but I do think it's important for us not
to just rubber stamp everything that comes
[52:42]
through and to have those discussions.
[52:45]
Well, I can tell you that we have not
evaluated a subscription service piece
[52:51]
evaluated a subscription service piece
yet,
[52:51]
but when we set this in place We were
looking— we were already,
[52:56]
because of the dynamic that we had with
the county in utilizing their building,
[53:02]
we were already making those responses.
[53:05]
We were looking at basically trying to, as
far as the service territory,
[53:11]
trying to keep the operations like they
were and then get reimbursed for what it
[53:17]
were and then get reimbursed for what it
was
[53:17]
costing us. And yes, we're using FEMA
rates.
[53:21]
Okay.
[53:21]
But those FEMA rates mirrored what our
operational costs would be.
[53:26]
No, we haven't put in a 2% add-on for cost
of living or something for this
[53:31]
particular year to try to renegotiate that
for this year.
[53:35]
But as Chief Lupo said,
[53:37]
it is our intent to do that in the
upcoming contract by starting that
[53:42]
upcoming contract by starting that
dialogue soon
[53:43]
and start— And I think that's a good
point.
[53:46]
Seeing what, what changes do we need to
make going forward.
[53:51]
And if anything, our,
[53:53]
our numbers running into the county are
going to be well under the hour per
[53:58]
call based on the type of the call types
we run out there.
[54:01]
It's mainly medical, right?
[54:03]
Yeah, medical, car wrecks, those sorts of
things.
[54:05]
I might ask my colleagues if there's any
appetite.
[54:08]
I'm aligned with what the mayor said about
us ensuring that we're getting We're
[54:12]
protecting the, the treasury of the
taxpayers of Nolensville first, foremost,
[54:17]
and always. We also want to be good
partners to our neighbors that reside in
[54:21]
partners to our neighbors that reside in
the
[54:21]
county. But I believe I heard Chief Lupo
say that as long as we get something done
[54:26]
ahead of October 1st, that's when we're
going to submit our next bill to the
[54:30]
going to submit our next bill to the
county,
[54:30]
we should be okay, right?
[54:32]
Yes.
[54:32]
Well, that being considered,
[54:34]
is there any appetite on this board to
perhaps let's table this until we take it
[54:38]
perhaps let's table this until we take it
up
[54:38]
at our next work session to give Victor
and his team a chance to perhaps come back
[54:43]
with some better numbers, uh, or should we
move forward tonight?
[54:47]
I just want to kind of poll everybody,
see, does that make sense?
[54:51]
If we've got time to do it, perhaps that's
what we're going to do.
[54:54]
I think there's 2 components you have to
look at,
[54:57]
and I think what Chief Lupo is saying is
valid,
[54:59]
that from the submittal of the
reimbursement—
[55:02]
but this interlocal agreement is actually
the legal authority we have to serve in
[55:06]
the county. And so in order for us to I'm
not the attorney.
[55:09]
Charles, do you want to step in?
[55:10]
Well, you asked me and I said yes.
[55:14]
Uh, yeah, the interlocal agreement should
be, uh, put back in effect, I guess. Okay.
[55:18]
It should have been July 1st.
[55:20]
I mean, like, realistically,
[55:21]
we need to not do this a month late
because it is the legal authority to
[55:25]
because it is the legal authority to
continue to
[55:26]
do it.
[55:27]
It does.
[55:28]
But you could change the time frame. I
mean, like, if you— if you—
[55:32]
so to answer your question, no,
[55:34]
I'm ready to move forward with the
interlocal agreement.
[55:37]
And we've had this discussion multiple
times,
[55:40]
and I can appreciate where you're coming
from, and it's the charge-out,
[55:44]
an expense that is covering the
operational costs, and I can respect that.
[55:48]
We're going to the call either way.
[55:51]
We are making the support for these calls
that are coming in.
[55:54]
Now we have somewhat of a reward, if you
will, in being paid the $250.
[55:58]
So to answer your question, no, I'm ready
to move forward.
[56:02]
I think prolonging this could potentially
get into those fees that we need to bill
[56:06]
out for and an error on our side of not
being able to collect those.
[56:10]
And so my answer would be ready to move
forward and give a yes to move forward.
[56:15]
So to the Vice Mayor's point,
[56:18]
what leverage do we have to actually
negotiate?
[56:22]
Because My understanding is that, like
Silver Streams for example,
[56:29]
if we don't have an agreement, who
responds if there's a fire?
[56:34]
Most likely we're still going to get
called out, right?
[56:38]
So I understand the, the mayor's point.
[56:41]
I actually think we should look into and
get a better rate if, if that is possible.
[56:47]
And so my genuine question is, what
leverage do we have?
[56:52]
Because it seems like We're responsible
regardless,
[56:56]
and having the agreement just simply gets
us a little bit of, um, not revenue,
[57:02]
but something for that.
[57:04]
County's been very cooperative working
with us on this, and they've, you know,
[57:09]
from the very beginning they've said
they're open to renegotiating and looking
[57:13]
they're open to renegotiating and looking
at
[57:13]
these numbers again in the future.
[57:15]
Um, this— to answer for the subscription
service,
[57:18]
the problem with that is it would still
leave county residents without fire
[57:23]
protection, which would then leverage the
county to reopen the volunteer station up,
[57:28]
which would then relocate us out of there,
[57:30]
which would have an effect on our ISO by
losing that station.
[57:34]
So there's logistical stuff with that
tracking who is a subscriber, who isn't.
[57:38]
So I would, I'd be opposed to that in my
last day.
[57:41]
Good. I choked up. Because it's your last
day.
[57:45]
Um, okay, so I do think there's, there's
value in getting— it's not time, you know,
[57:52]
pressing, but getting some kind of, uh,
[57:55]
evaluation or a staff report or something
that can help us understand if,
[58:01]
if we need to negotiate for a higher rate.
[58:04]
Like the mayor said, before, before July
1st date.
[58:08]
Um, I mean, I would like to see it much
sooner than later, but I,
[58:14]
I would like to see something like that. I
think it's worth looking into.
[58:20]
We're looking into other fees and, and
whatnot, and so, you know,
[58:25]
staff can do with that as they may unless
the board also feels strongly about that
[58:32]
as well.
[58:33]
But—
[58:33]
I think one of the things that we could
do, uh, Commissioner Carpenter,
[58:37]
is take a look at the data that Uh, for
the runs, the,
[58:41]
the 142 calls that have been since
January, I think, take a look at those.
[58:46]
Uh, they do have the, the time in, time
out, time back.
[58:49]
Yes.
[58:49]
So we would know how much time are we
spending on those calls.
[58:53]
And then we can take a look at those
individually and then collectively to say,
[58:58]
okay, well, did that call cost us $250
that we got for?
[59:02]
Uh, so at the end of the, at the end of
that 6-month period, Are we good?
[59:06]
Are we under? You know, and,
[59:08]
and that will dictate whether or not it
has covered our operational costs.
[59:12]
And as I understand it, just correct me if
I am way off here,
[59:17]
but as I understand it,
[59:18]
all calls that we've made out to county
have not been met with a,
[59:23]
a call that we have not been able to serve
our residents. Is that correct?
[59:28]
Correct. We, we Most are definitely
medical and car wrecks.
[59:32]
Most of our calls out in the county are a
single unit response,
[59:36]
so most of our duplicates or overlapping
calls after that,
[59:40]
we still have a unit available in the
town.
[59:42]
Thank you.
[59:46]
And it's always the secondary unit that
responds, is that correct?
[59:49]
Yeah, I think the only—
[59:51]
we—
[59:51]
I think we've had one incident which was
an actual structure fire where we had to—
[59:55]
we sent, uh, Arrington,
[59:56]
I believe we had to call for mutual aid
for Arrington to respond.
[59:59]
But we would have went to that fire.
[1:00:00]
We would have been called for mutual aid
to that fire whether we were in this
[1:00:04]
agreement or not.
[1:00:05]
Was that that brush fire, or was it— it
was—
[1:00:08]
there was one that was in the town that
was not in the
[1:00:12]
mutualized area.
[1:00:17]
I will support the reevaluation of our
negotiated rate.
[1:00:21]
I think that's a good idea to look at.
[1:00:24]
what it truly does cost us operationally
to roll out to these calls.
[1:00:29]
Um, but I do think we, we need this
agreement in place.
[1:00:33]
It's, it's vital for our service of our
residents and even those that are maybe
[1:00:39]
residents and even those that are maybe
just
[1:00:40]
outside our town boundary. Um, that's
where I stand.
[1:00:43]
So this agreement's for a 1-year
extension, I believe,
[1:00:47]
in the original interlocal agreement,
which is not what's on the agenda.
[1:00:52]
There was a provision that said that if
there was any renegotiation,
[1:00:56]
you had to give 6 months' notice.
[1:00:58]
So I think, Commissioner Gill, to your
point, I support what you're saying, but
[1:01:03]
point, I support what you're saying, but
I,
[1:01:03]
I think for a lot of reasons, uh, it
should move forward with the 1 year.
[1:01:08]
We said this last year.
[1:01:10]
I really don't— Commissioner Struford, I
think,
[1:01:13]
said it well at the beginning of
discussion for this.
[1:01:16]
That we've got to be on the front end of
it, not on the back end.
[1:01:20]
And, um, I understand that it's an
interlocal agreement with the county,
[1:01:25]
but because it's the legal foundation for
us responding into the county as primary
[1:01:30]
response, I wish we were more proactive in
how we got these on the agenda and had
[1:01:36]
them voted on, especially given that when
the draft agenda came out on Thursday It
[1:01:41]
wasn't on there. I actually did not see
this.
[1:01:44]
I had reviewed the agenda, I think on
Tuesday, did not see it.
[1:01:48]
And then thankfully went through it again
today is when I, when I saw it.
[1:01:53]
So when these get added,
[1:01:54]
I think that communication is really
important so that everybody can be
[1:01:59]
important so that everybody can be
informed,
[1:01:59]
because I imagine the rest of the board
would have liked to have read the full
[1:02:04]
interlocal agreement, not just the, um,
the addendum. Thank you.
[1:02:09]
Can I ask before we move on, uh, Victor,
when can you have something for us?
[1:02:15]
So you mentioned that you could look at
time and, and costs and all that.
[1:02:21]
When can you have a staff report for us?
[1:02:24]
I'm gonna have to look first, see how
complex the data is.
[1:02:27]
Um, my goal would try to be have something
at your work session Um, but I haven't—
[1:02:33]
not looking at the data and understanding
what all is going to have to be, how,
[1:02:38]
how difficult it is to get the information
that we think we need, um, it might—
[1:02:44]
I would say worst case it would be the
following work session,
[1:02:48]
but our goal would be to try to get you
something by the work session so you all
[1:02:53]
something by the work session so you all
can
[1:02:53]
have that information.
[1:02:55]
Thank you. I— thank you.
[1:02:57]
Okay, any other questions or discussion
for
[1:03:01]
Resolution 26-090? All in favor signify by
saying
[1:03:05]
aye.
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Aye.
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All opposed? Motion passes unanimously.
Thank you, Chief Lupo.
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I am sorry to give you a hard time right
at the very end.
[1:03:13]
Wouldn't have it any other way.
[1:03:18]
All right, that takes us to reports and
comments from commissioners.
[1:03:21]
School's about to start.
[1:03:24]
That's a, that's a good Good thing,
[1:03:28]
bad thing.
[1:03:30]
Here comes the traffic.
[1:03:31]
Well, yeah. We did receive the staff
report for sewer service and the urban
[1:03:37]
report for sewer service and the urban
growth
[1:03:37]
boundary, and it was excellent, very
helpful to understand.
[1:03:42]
That 1997 interlocal agreement with, um,
[1:03:45]
with Metro did indicate that we were
supposed to be working proactively with
[1:03:50]
supposed to be working proactively with
Metro
[1:03:51]
for sewer. I think there's a real
opportunity for the town to better engage
[1:03:56]
opportunity for the town to better engage
with
[1:03:56]
Metro to have an understanding of sewer
capacity.
[1:04:00]
The report that listed out the projected
capacity— and I don't remember the date,
[1:04:06]
the year stamp on that report— um, was
helpful.
[1:04:10]
And I think especially with annexation
requests and understanding future growth
[1:04:15]
requests and understanding future growth
we
[1:04:16]
have a responsibility as a board to be
planning for that,
[1:04:20]
and sewer capacity is an integral piece of
that.
[1:04:23]
And I would love to see us more
proactively interact with Metro Sewer and
[1:04:29]
proactively interact with Metro Sewer and
would like
[1:04:29]
to hear more from the board but also staff
on ways to make that happen.
[1:04:35]
I also think that should be happening
with, um,
[1:04:38]
Nolensville College Grove Water Utility,
[1:04:41]
and I've heard other members of this board
share that as well.
[1:04:46]
I received feedback from a citizen earlier
this week related to water,
[1:04:51]
and while I know we have no authority over
either of those utilities,
[1:04:56]
that interlocal agreement that was brought
forward related to sewer service—
[1:05:02]
Metro was agreeing to work with us when
they took over sewer service in this area.
[1:05:08]
So I would love to hear more, not
necessarily tonight, But it,
[1:05:12]
when appropriate about those areas.
[1:05:15]
And if you have stuff to share tonight,
I'm happy to talk.
[1:05:19]
I'll just make this one comment.
[1:05:21]
When, when we were looking at the new
revised urban growth boundary,
[1:05:26]
we reached out both to Metro and to, uh,
[1:05:28]
Nolensville College Grove before we even
brought to you all the scope of the urban
[1:05:34]
growth boundary and said, okay, we, you
know, we're looking at our planning area,
[1:05:39]
the potential growth area.
[1:05:41]
What's, what's your, Intents, what is your
ability to serve?
[1:05:44]
And at the time we had received
information that, yes, we will have
[1:05:49]
information that, yes, we will have
capacity.
[1:05:49]
You know, we can serve that area. We can
do that.
[1:05:53]
Now, Metro had said at that point that
they wouldn't go beyond the Ridgeline,
[1:05:58]
but as far as everything that was in that
current UGB, you know,
[1:06:02]
they would have the capacity to serve.
[1:06:04]
Okay.
[1:06:05]
Um, so, and, and we've heard something
similar from, um,
[1:06:10]
Nolensville College Grove Utility
District.
[1:06:14]
So we haven't been— we haven't been devoid
of, of conversations.
[1:06:20]
Mm-hmm.
[1:06:20]
But I do think that the whole issue of,
um, that has come about with the, uh,
[1:06:27]
us being surprised that they did have a
capacity issue in their trunk main will
[1:06:33]
create the ongoing conversations of, you
know, what your model will look like,
[1:06:39]
where are we. Here's— every time that we
would do a growth plan update,
[1:06:45]
we'll probably be having those
conversations with them about what does
[1:06:50]
conversations with them about what does
that look
[1:06:51]
like in their systems as well.
[1:06:54]
Go ahead.
[1:06:56]
I think it would be immensely valuable if
we got them to sit down with us as a
[1:07:01]
board, whoever that may be at Metro Water,
[1:07:04]
to talk about strategically what they're
looking at, what their goals are,
[1:07:09]
how that fits in with what we're seeing
boots on the ground here,
[1:07:13]
whether that's Enoch making that
connection or you.
[1:07:16]
I think it's immensely important for us to
understand timeline for the trunk line
[1:07:21]
replacement.
[1:07:22]
Okay.
[1:07:22]
replacement they are working on, what that
looks like,
[1:07:25]
how far they really truly do intend to go
when it is all said and done.
[1:07:29]
I think that would be great for them and
us to have a work session and really go
[1:07:33]
through that.
[1:07:34]
Okay.
[1:07:37]
I have got a question regarding the sewer
document that was sent out.
[1:07:42]
Under the section that was most
interesting to me,
[1:07:46]
and I think the thing that we are really
focused on here,
[1:07:51]
The section of waste disposal regulations
outside the town limits of Nolensville but
[1:07:57]
within the UGB and outside of the drainage
basin.
[1:08:01]
Um, you mentioned that staff has asked the
county multiple times for a copy of the
[1:08:08]
policy that they claim says that we, we
have the ability to,
[1:08:12]
to give property owners the right to For
alternative sewer.
[1:08:17]
Um, have you heard anything?
[1:08:19]
I know this recently came to us, but when
can you expect that?
[1:08:24]
Yes, I, I have heard something, and that's
not yet a written policy.
[1:08:30]
Uh, it is a— it is the way that they are
operating,
[1:08:34]
but it has not yet been officially
adopted.
[1:08:37]
So does that mean that Officially, we
don't have the authority to allow—
[1:08:45]
Well, it just means for them, it gives
them the—
[1:08:50]
it basically says that they would be able
to grant us— well, no,
[1:08:56]
that's where we would be trying to work
toward is for them to be able to grant us
[1:09:04]
authority or grant authority.
[1:09:07]
Let them grant the authority for an
alternative system within the UGB outside
[1:09:15]
alternative system within the UGB outside
of
[1:09:15]
Metro system. Um, they're, they're—
[1:09:18]
the policy that they're enforcing right
now is that they're not allowing them,
[1:09:26]
period, if it's in the UGB. But that's not
written right now.
[1:09:33]
But the thing that follows that statement
is a statement that the county's
[1:09:39]
planning staff has indicated that language
modifying the policy— okay,
[1:09:44]
I see. They could consider modifying it if
we decide to.
[1:09:48]
Okay, that makes sense.
[1:09:50]
And they are very interested in modifying
that policy if indeed we are.
[1:09:54]
Okay.
[1:09:56]
They've been very candid about that.
[1:09:57]
Uh, you know, when I talked to their
planning staff, they, they thought that
[1:10:02]
planning staff, they, they thought that
it—
[1:10:02]
that the original one had already been
codified.
[1:10:05]
But when they went back, I went back
through their stuff, I couldn't find it
[1:10:09]
through their stuff, I couldn't find it
online.
[1:10:09]
And then they called me back later in the
afternoon and said, oh, guess what,
[1:10:13]
it's not been officially adopted, but
here's, here's where we're at.
[1:10:17]
Okay.
[1:10:21]
Do we serve the Jenkins Farm for fire?
[1:10:28]
Yes.
[1:10:29]
So this report that came out is not on our
agenda,
[1:10:31]
but I do think it bears additional
discussion and would like it to be on our
[1:10:35]
discussion and would like it to be on our
next
[1:10:36]
workshop.
[1:10:36]
Yeah.
[1:10:39]
Is there anything else that you all would
like to see
[1:10:44]
addressed or evaluated inside that
particular That
[1:10:50]
topic.
[1:10:50]
I, I would like it to be distilled to the
point of like,
[1:10:55]
these are our options should we choose to
go down that road of—
[1:11:01]
because I think this helps a lot to really
understand what the options are,
[1:11:07]
especially when we're talking about, um,
[1:11:11]
restricting a property that is outside of
our town I think it would be helpful
[1:11:18]
to know what the possible policy tracks
that we could go down would be.
[1:11:24]
Okay.
[1:11:27]
Do you want me to do anything?
[1:11:29]
I think I understand. I'll have some
offline commentary—
[1:11:31]
Sure.
[1:11:32]
Chat with you and just make sure I've got
in mind what you're looking for.
[1:11:36]
Okay.
[1:11:37]
Was the planning report from Metro
something that we already had in our
[1:11:41]
something that we already had in our
files,
[1:11:41]
or did we go get that from Metro to
generate this report?
[1:11:44]
Um, Enoch was able to find that.
[1:11:52]
Um, I found it in a box that Don had in
the closet.
[1:11:55]
I mean, I called Metro 2 or 3 times, tried
to get information.
[1:11:58]
They didn't have anything.
[1:12:00]
So I went and dug through the closet
upstairs Joel had,
[1:12:03]
and I found that in the bottom of the box,
just a sewer.
[1:12:06]
So I scanned it, sent it out.
[1:12:10]
So do we— presumably Metro creates these
reports for other areas.
[1:12:14]
Do we think that they've not restudied the
Nolensville Basin since 1997, or do you—
[1:12:19]
is it possible— I understand they haven't
been willingly giving it to you,
[1:12:24]
but they did sign an interlocal agreement
saying that they would cooperate with the
[1:12:29]
town of Nolensville, albeit in 1997,
related to sewer.
[1:12:32]
Um, when they determined that the trunk
line was functioning at 80% capacity?
[1:12:37]
There must have been some studies. Can,
can we—
[1:12:40]
I think what they did was redo their
modeling, uh, and had, uh,
[1:12:45]
it was my understanding that they were
going through systematically, uh,
[1:12:51]
taking a look at their sewer models and
that they were in the process of redoing
[1:12:58]
that they were in the process of redoing
it
[1:12:58]
when they discovered via the model that
they were much higher capacity than what,
[1:13:05]
uh, what they thought. Um, I don't know
that they've done a full basin, uh, study.
[1:13:11]
That's certainly something that we can
inquire, but—
[1:13:16]
Yeah, I've talked to Metro 2 or 3 times,
and they've had a lot of people retire.
[1:13:20]
Cyrus Tucci's retired, Mike Marshall's
retired.
[1:13:23]
Um, I've been talking to Steve I know a
lot of the folks that work there.
[1:13:27]
I don't talk to Scott Potter much, their
director,
[1:13:30]
because he's not really been involved with
the basin studies.
[1:13:34]
But they really started studying this when
Farrington and Beezer came in,
[1:13:38]
when they had to upgrade the Kidd Road
system. They put an 18-inch line down
[1:13:42]
system. They put an 18-inch line down
Kidd.
[1:13:43]
They took out 5 lift stations that served
a lot of the Stonebrook area.
[1:13:47]
That's what triggered them to really start
studying that area.
[1:13:50]
Well, they determined about a year and a
half ago that It was at capacity.
[1:13:55]
Uh, so they have issued a purchase order
to Garney Construction to upgrade that
[1:13:59]
line.
[1:14:01]
They've ordered pipe.
[1:14:01]
I think they've got some delays on getting
pipe.
[1:14:04]
I don't have a— when today they're going
to start digging through town,
[1:14:08]
but they're moving forward with it now,
you know.
[1:14:11]
But they have studied— like,
[1:14:12]
one of the things that came up with the
county dealing with Mike Madison when the
[1:14:17]
farm came in You know,
[1:14:18]
Metro's saying they should not have been
able to put in an alternate system there
[1:14:22]
without the county's approval, without
their approval.
[1:14:25]
The county said, we didn't know nothing
about it, we just did it, you know.
[1:14:29]
Uh, so that kind of thing.
[1:14:31]
The Metro says, you know, they've—
[1:14:33]
the county wasn't forthright with them
about that.
[1:14:35]
They should have asked, got their approval
first,
[1:14:38]
because that's part of that agreement.
But, um, but—
[1:14:41]
And I think there's other county
agreements.
[1:14:43]
And the county had signed the agreement.
[1:14:44]
They had the agreement too, but nobody
looked at it.
[1:14:47]
It was a long time ago, I guess.
[1:14:49]
But, uh, that's one thing that the county
said to him,
[1:14:51]
and Mike Madison and Victor's talked to
him as well, is, yeah,
[1:14:54]
we don't have an official policy,
[1:14:56]
but anything in the urban growth boundary
of Nolensville,
[1:14:59]
whether it's subdivisions or anything,
[1:15:01]
we want the town's thoughts on it because
they're going to annex it someday.
[1:15:04]
We want to make— meet their policies. kind
of thing.
[1:15:07]
Whether they have to or not, I don't know,
[1:15:09]
but that's sort of where they are right
now in their operating procedures.
[1:15:13]
Whether it's in their ordinances or not,
that's the way they want to look at it.
[1:15:17]
I have comments, but I think, I think
we'll— I'll save mine for the work
[1:15:23]
we'll— I'll save mine for the work
session.
[1:15:24]
Okay.
[1:15:28]
Any other reports and comments from
commissioners?
[1:15:31]
The only other item I'd really like to,
[1:15:34]
to discuss some time frames with is the
update to the zoning ordinance that's
[1:15:39]
update to the zoning ordinance that's
still
[1:15:40]
in the Planning Commission.
[1:15:42]
That's something that's been in process
for a little while now, and, uh,
[1:15:47]
I don't know if Brad has any— I didn't
give you a heads up or anything about
[1:15:52]
give you a heads up or anything about
that.
[1:15:52]
That's okay. That's all right.
[1:15:54]
Um, Planning Commission is next Tuesday,
[1:15:57]
and We've sent out to the Planning
Commission members for their agenda the
[1:16:02]
Commission members for their agenda the
draft of
[1:16:03]
Article 8. So we mentioned, I think it's
been maybe a year ago now,
[1:16:08]
that I sat probably right here and
mentioned that this process is going to
[1:16:13]
mentioned that this process is going to
take a
[1:16:13]
long time. And we are beginning Article 8
of 9.
[1:16:17]
Um, 4 and 8 were always going to be The
rough ones, the, the very difficult ones.
[1:16:22]
So 8 is because there's a relatively
lighter agenda for Planning Commission.
[1:16:28]
We wanted to go ahead and get that on that
agenda for Planning Commission to take a
[1:16:33]
look at it and provide any comments that
they had.
[1:16:37]
I imagine that 8 is going to need a second
Planning Commission discussion coming off
[1:16:43]
that. We've looked at it internally,
[1:16:45]
but I think we would like continue to look
at it internally, but due to, uh,
[1:16:51]
you know, the nature of knowing the timing
and, you know, we went ahead and,
[1:16:56]
and got that for, for Planning Commission
to review.
[1:17:00]
So we are hoping that maybe this month and
next month for 8,
[1:17:04]
9 could potentially be kind of wrapped up,
um,
[1:17:07]
as a part of putting them all back
together.
[1:17:10]
So, you know, as we mentioned, we've been
on We've been doing this— I,
[1:17:15]
I looked at it, I think it was maybe
August,
[1:17:18]
maybe July of last year where our initial
Planning Commission Article 1 discussion
[1:17:24]
was. So it puts us so close enough, um,
you know,
[1:17:28]
then we got to put it all back together.
[1:17:31]
We've looked at 1, we've looked at 2, but
like I mentioned,
[1:17:35]
it's been months and months since we
looked at 1.
[1:17:38]
Are we still using the same terminology?
Now we got to push it all back together.
[1:17:44]
So I'm imagining that's maybe a couple
months as well at the Planning Commission
[1:17:49]
level, hopefully, hopefully sooner, and
then ultimately up to the board.
[1:17:55]
Did that answer anything?
[1:17:56]
Okay. So Article 8 for August and
September, presumably Article 9 in
[1:18:03]
September, presumably Article 9 in
October.
[1:18:04]
9 is definitions, so definitions could
almost be handled kind of as we look at it
[1:18:10]
all back together. So it could potentially
be 1 through 9 is,
[1:18:15]
is looked at that in October.
[1:18:18]
Yeah.
[1:18:18]
Okay. And then as part of that review
process, um,
[1:18:22]
Commissioner Strufert brought it up
earlier tonight,
[1:18:27]
and I agree with him that the hamlet zone
that was in the zoning ordinance is
[1:18:34]
a little bit challenging.
[1:18:36]
And has there been discussion at the
Planning Commission or with staff about
[1:18:43]
how the Hamlet Zone gets modified and/or
something similar to a PD or PUD
[1:18:49]
like there was previously?
[1:18:52]
There has been discussion.
[1:18:53]
And spoiler, you know, I think Article 8,
or on this upcoming Tuesday's meeting,
[1:18:59]
I would assume may go around that a lot.
[1:19:01]
Um, couldn't— I don't know what, what
we'll ultimately talk about.
[1:19:06]
It's— I think just Article 8 is 109 pages
as it is,
[1:19:09]
so with red lines it's much longer.
[1:19:11]
Um, so it's— I mean, that's just that
portion of it.
[1:19:15]
Um, you know, we didn't really— I'm trying
to recall.
[1:19:18]
I think with Article 4,
[1:19:20]
which is where the zoning bulk standards
for the zoning districts are in the
[1:19:25]
for the zoning districts are in the
current
[1:19:25]
ordinance, we didn't, we didn't adjust
much of that CH and RH,
[1:19:29]
which are the hamlet districts.
[1:19:31]
But as we've gone through it,
[1:19:33]
there's been increased discussion and
interest in what do PUDs look like.
[1:19:38]
Is there a process in which that we can
facilitate that and, and that the,
[1:19:43]
the board is ultimately comfortable with
them,
[1:19:46]
whether if it's a modification of standard
approach as other municipalities utilize
[1:19:51]
that Um, where you're either doing a
development by right and you kind of do
[1:19:56]
development by right and you kind of do
this
[1:19:56]
process, or if you're asking for any
modifications to standard and, and,
[1:20:01]
and you very clearly are asking for them
individually.
[1:20:04]
That's one of the questions that has come
up, and, uh,
[1:20:08]
staff has written a little bit that, you
know,
[1:20:11]
brought that into some of the changes in
Article 8,
[1:20:14]
and we'll get feedback on Tuesday.
[1:20:16]
Thank you. I appreciate that. All right.
[1:20:19]
Any other reports and comments from
commissioners?
[1:20:23]
Mayor, if I just may take a personal
moment.
[1:20:26]
Um, I shared with the vice mayor before we
got started tonight.
[1:20:30]
I'll need to share it with the chief of
police, if that's all right.
[1:20:34]
Chief Armour, as of 3 o'clock this
afternoon,
[1:20:37]
there's another Gil on the highway
driving.
[1:20:40]
My 16-year-old son got the perfect score,
we were told,
[1:20:43]
at the driver's testing center.
[1:20:45]
He takes after his mother, obviously, when
it comes to test-taking,
[1:20:49]
but I'm afraid he may take after his
father when it comes to having a lead
[1:20:54]
father when it comes to having a lead
foot.
[1:20:54]
So nonetheless, congratulations to my son
Taylor on getting his driver's license
[1:20:59]
today.
[1:20:59]
Congratulations, Commissioner Gill.
[1:21:03]
All right, is there any other comments or
a
[1:21:08]
motion to adjourn?
[1:21:09]
Second.
[1:21:11]
All in favor of adjournment signify by
saying aye. Aye.
[1:21:13]
All opposed?
[1:21:13]
Motion passes unanimously.