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>> don't
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>> really city we read and a
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good today is wednesday JULY
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26 is finals ago. We're at the
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city chambers and I call a
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city commission special
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meeting to order.
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Commissioners smiler emerged
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vice mayor like commissioner
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petro there is a core
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PRESIDENT For this made. Also
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part our city manager
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pleasures of the attorney for
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leno city clerk falls we've
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got police and fire chief
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titus in the back. I'm
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requesting participants and
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staff maintain were in the
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throughout this meeting, city
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commission policy 2021 0, 3,
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states attend the show been
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gauging in personal attacks
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and boisterous immaterial
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implants seen profane or was
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conduct. Additionally meeting
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attendees must refrain from
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obscene profane or disorderly
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conduct including hand,
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clapping and yelling and
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similar demonstrations. Always
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disturbs the peace and good
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order the meeting thank you.
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Commissioner dipietro with the
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lead us in the playoffs serve.
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>> united states of stands one
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nation under GOD indivisible
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with liberty and justice for
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all.
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>> thank you sir. To bring the
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commissioner stow seconded by
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vice mayor to approve agenda.
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Please that passes 5 to 0.
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Probably go to court.
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>> robin thomas entail good
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evening commissioners as you
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are all assistance citizen do
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not want any type of data
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center, especially I first
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online in our city you're
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tired angry to continuously
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hear about the lack of
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commercial and industrial
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enterprises. You have rezoned
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our city in such a way that
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you are removing our quality
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of life and right to quiet
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enjoyment. Understand the need
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for change but not at our
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expense. We will rise up and
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do everything we can to ensure
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this doesn't happen. We will
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organize together and use our
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voices and every available way
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order to have our voices heard
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and achieve our ultimate goals
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which puts the citizen
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citizenry and environment
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first there are city organized
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town halls for media
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saturation that will change
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our minds. Commissioners who
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are supposed to represent the
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citizens. We expect you to do
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what is in our best interest
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and that center's or not.
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Carmen miranda commissioner
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posted about center and and
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the fact that he feels he can
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talk about it because he
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didn't sign I agree that
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residents have every right to
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understand how decisions are
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made and that florida's public
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records parts closure are not
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exempt information. However, I
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think important point is ever
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left the question is whether
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discussing important
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information connected to an
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act of economic development
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perspective. Prospect. Process
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runs. Its course serves the
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public interest statue 2 88.0
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75 protects more brits it
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protects a couple companies
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plans intentions and interest
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on that and locating or
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expanding in florida because
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the legislature recognized
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that premature disclosure can
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jeopardize projects in place
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communities at a competitive
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disadvantage. Part of a center
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MAY have a legitimate
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expectation that is interest
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in the city remains
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confidential during the
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recruitment phase. Temporary
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that she only does not
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eliminate the club public's
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right to know. It's a late
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disclosure until the process
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reaches a stage for the
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information can be released
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without harming the covid
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company's interest for the
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community's ability to compete
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for economic opportunities.
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Residents deserve
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transparency. They also
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deserve a city that can
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successfully complete compete
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for jobs and investment those
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goals are not mutually.
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Exclusive but they do require
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careful judgment about timing
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its staff and consultants are
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falling all and honoring
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envelop confidentiality
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request. They MAY have limited
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ability to disclose
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information until the
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statutory confidentiality
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period expires for the company
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authorizes release.
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>> the issue is not whether
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information should become
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public the issue is whether it
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should become public before
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the legal process and economic
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development process having
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completed and the broader
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responsibility elected
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officials have when dealing
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with active perspective
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>> thank you moving on to
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general business item a 26
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dash 9, 6, 8, city manager,
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this is your item.
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>> it is made as discussed a
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possible action regarding the
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2026 certification of taxable
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value proposed millage
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scheduled days for public
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hearings. We do have a short
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presentation to go through
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with you today and starting.
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There's a lot talk about the
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maximum rate so we are
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recommending to the boy or
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rate of 3 point 7, 6, 6, 7,
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been the same rate since 2021
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producing revenue that
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41 million 697. $1000.
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>> you look at the history of
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our millage rate this will be
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the.
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>> year in a row of keeping a
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really great the which is
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probably talk about a little
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bit during our conversation
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earlier today meaning that
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other fully know is that and
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rate is not the only tax or
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fee that the city's control of
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that is the largest one in our
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revenues green one that people
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most associated with so
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keeping the snow rain say to
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this law is in the coffin of
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the rays have increased not
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have increased. Has increased
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in that time period. Looking
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taxable valuation going 2
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years where we have been on a
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porch swing and we continue
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that way growth of our city
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has been locally nationally we
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have been very much praise for
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the growth in our tax
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violations of our city. We
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know that it can last at the
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same rate forever, but we do
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believe that people are going
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to want to continue to come
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and moved here that is based
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on the quality of life the
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successes that we have and
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will leave by people who
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either moved here 3 years or
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30 years ago they have seen
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the growth and appreciate
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where we are as I mentioned
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some of the so what the tactic
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proposing is that you are
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allowed to use a role our room
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but raised 3.82 for it to make
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a which is higher than our
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current rate so that would
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bring $42,000 revenue for an
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extra $680,000 wires a
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majority of the vote 3 of the
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5 of you to do that that means
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you know your that could be
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the starting point of where
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you start to look at how tall
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said some of the cost of going
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to it does need to be able to
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layered approach to the
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situation and not just looking
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all expenses all the time.
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Also the rollback rate as
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possibility as you move role
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that at one and 2% would be
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4.2 1, 2 or 46.6 million
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dollars for extra 4.9 million
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dollars and that will require
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a two-thirds vote for a battle
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of the board order to pass
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that do have one or that that
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it was does look aggressive
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most likely it is, but I think
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they put that you know that
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you would have rates we would
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have in order to I mean the
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need. Right here. We are
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looking in. But of the
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rollback rate and as you can
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see you know public safety is
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still above that what we look
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at when you look at the
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revenue the current millage in
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the rollback rate when are
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told that you can see the
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public safety fired you is a
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boat that mean that still have
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somebody to go in order to
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make sure that we make up for
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that part of general fund.
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Here you see red that are
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right on my farm your
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division. Police and fire
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making up roughly 89% of the
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actual. So which is the but we
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know that that can't be the
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target of what we're trying to
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accomplish we deal with
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whatever second forward
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everybody an assault or even
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if it doesn't happen so we're
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always trying to make that he
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made today a lot of partners
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should you're deciding how to
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make sure that we could take
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care and tackle this problem
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together as a city and not
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heisley anyone department or
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division. It's a the existing
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service level. Many 0.2
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million dollars budget
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proposal for 2.3 million
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dozens were 2 million dollars
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in our cip was an additional 4
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to 46. $1000 totaling 9 e
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953 million dollars. When you
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get know what poll 2.3 million
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you can see that 802 that was
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through the fire department.
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Then you do services at a
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million dollars a few other
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funds for efficient technology
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city managers and small parks
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and recreation. What this
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right here about 2 dozen that
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up 2.0 72 million dollars.
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Here's where and how we got to
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love 5% of the barn size. The
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problem is it is will be I'm
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in year's exercise a 10%. Even
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though we MAY not take that 2%
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we have to perform exercise by
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by law and you have to publish
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it what you do it you can't
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just do it and keep it to
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yourself so we are going to
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see next how 10% of the budget
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reduction impacts our.
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Services the quality services
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that we provide. It's
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something like I said really
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want to talk about take it out
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exactly what the us to do as
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far I want to use an dealers
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and how we move forward, but
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we we will those conversations
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that I knew back recess from
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recess in AUGUST and SEPTEMBER
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we should have more
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information to share with you
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just a pathway forward.
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Commissioner, a federal region
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earlier not waiting too. Get
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out in front of the things
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that's something that we talk
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about what do. Earlier as
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well. So next steps is of
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course the certifications of
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taxable due to county
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appraiser AUGUST 17 the
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mileage. The estimated
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building of the chain noses
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will happen. SEPTEMBER to be
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your first public. Budget
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hearing meeting attended doing
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that with rate will be and I
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don't is going for to be a
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second public to adopt the
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budget in rates. That is all
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we have the question to the
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board we have. Get into have
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anything. And the budget. Have
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any public not. And all of
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emotion.
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I guess so make it.
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>> moved to direct city
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manager to submit the 2026
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certificated certificate, a
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taxable value would pose
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millet rate of 3.7 6, 6, 7,
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>> have a motion on the floor
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made commissioner stow's city
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manager to submit the 2026
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certificate of taxable value
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with the proposed millage rate
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3.7 6, 6, 7, made by
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commissioner stella seconded
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by vice mayor.
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>> there's nothing to that
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please bow. Passes 5, 0, and
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you know the motion.
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>> for the dates you.
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>> I mean know I move to
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approve the days of SEPTEMBER
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10th 2026 at 5 oh 01:00pm and
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SEPTEMBER 24th 2026 at 5 oh
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01:00pm for the budget
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hearings.
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>> motion on the floor made
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vice mayor to approve the
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dates of SEPTEMBER 10th 2026 5
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oh 01:00pm SEPTEMBER 24th 2026
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at 5 oh 01:00pm for the budget
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hearings made vice mayor and
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seconded by commissioner
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nothing to that please vote.
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Not pass is 5 to 0 moving on
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to item 26 dash. 0, 4, sitting
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does your
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>> is that JULY 21st meeting
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commission took action
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>> directed the city manager
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schedule a special meeting for
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data center moratorium in the
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month of AUGUST in clearing
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the commissioners I could not
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find a date that all
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commissioners could be present
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in the month of AUGUST so I
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have provided states that the
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majority of the commission can
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be present for you all
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determine what date would work
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best for you or if we should
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push until the SEPTEMBER
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meetings.
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>> and just a reminder. We're
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just discussing that days
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before the meeting in this
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conversation we are not
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discussing any of the unders
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just to set up this meeting so
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commissioner steps. Question
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for seeing that today. Is
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there any impact on. Strength
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of any legal arguments. We
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schedule this like. It's a
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parolee and this week and for
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first week of SEPTEMBER there.
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I mean just that period of
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time. Any on how the court may
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look this.
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>> I don't think it's going to
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have much of a difference
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either way. Commissioner spoke
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up. Admire.
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>> I'm just and and looking my
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calendar we wanted to try to
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adhere to the letter of the
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law. Monday is AUGUST 31st and
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we are all back in we could
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schedule with and still be in
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otherwise my only concern
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would be for city with with
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never done anything like this
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we do have some good examples
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without AUGUST 31st, give you
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enough time to do a good job
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on ordinance.
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>> that's the first.
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>> but that we're looking at
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SEPTEMBER alternative what's
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the difference in the week.
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Think that would be much you
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so that that's anybody else.
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We have the public
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>> it is extremely important
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that any meeting the schedule
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thus far in advance as
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possible. So that public
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comment can the most simple
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public comment can be the most
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important at this time, none
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of the request dealing with
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the disasters have been
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responded to by the city. Rob
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thomas sent good evening
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commissioners with the
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citizens citizens of north
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port would like to first the
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first reading of the or more
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06:00pm meeting in order to
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allow for full participation
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of the citizens, this is too
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much of an important topic to
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have it held at 10:00am when
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the majority of our citizens,
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our work. Please consider this
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a sense first in your
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decision. Carmen miranda.
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Commissioner posted about this
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is the exact same public
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comment that we received for
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the last one do you want me to
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read into the record again I
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just.
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>> for legality purposes I
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suspect for both commissioner
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about the data center and the
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and the fact that he feels he
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can talk about it because he
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didn't sign it.
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>> I have everybody to
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understand how decisions are
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made in that parks non-exempt
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information. Think an
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important point is that real
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up the question is whether
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discussing information
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connected to an act of
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economic development prospect
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before the statutory process
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runs its course serves the
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public interest. Florida
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statute 2 88.0 7, 5, protects
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more than trade secret to
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protect company's plans
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intentions, an interest
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locating or expanding in
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florida because the legislator
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legislature recognized that
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premature disclosure
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jeopardize projects in place
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communities at a competitive
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disadvantage.
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>> company evaluating front
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center MAY have a legitimate
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expectation that its interest
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in the city remains
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confidential during the
[18:15]
recruitment face temporary
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mentioning confidentiality
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does not eliminate. The
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public's right to if the
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latest closure until the
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process reaches the stage for
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the information can be
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released without harming the
[18:26]
company's interest for the
[18:26]
community's ability to compete
[18:29]
for economic opportunities.
[18:31]
residents deserve
[18:32]
transparency. Deserve city
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that can successfully compete
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for jobs and investment.
[18:36]
Vessels are not mutually
[18:38]
exclusive, but they do require
[18:41]
careful judgment about timing
[18:42]
if staff and so those are
[18:44]
honoring about confidentiality
[18:45]
request, they MAY have limited
[18:46]
ability to disclose
[18:47]
information to the statutory
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confidentiality period expires
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where the company authorizes
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release the issue is not
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whether information should
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become public. The issue is
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whether it should be become
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public before the legal
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process and economic
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development process have been
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completed and the broader
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responsibility elected
[19:02]
officials have been dealing
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with active prospects models
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all there.
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>> all right, I'm going
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request a motion mayor if I is
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a scheduled for 10:00am
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meeting. Which is a problem I
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think I don't any problem with
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public comment to set that
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should be an evening meeting
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so.
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>> you know I don't know how
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we handle if we. You to push
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it out for SEPTEMBER but
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unless we can switch time of
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that meeting from 10 flooded
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before. Well one.
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>> one local city clerk, you
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know when the next meeting
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would be the 6 o'clock that's
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quite a ways down the road.
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>> ok back to city attorney
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delay in that would that have
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any effects to what we're
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trying to do legally I know
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would like to do it as soon as
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possible what that was today
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and it was 22nd, I believe she
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predator.
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>> tell you I think now the
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report about you MAY start
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running into some problems
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there.
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>> we also MAY be suggestions.
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We have the day meeting just
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schedule, a special meeting at
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city managers are paid for
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06:00pm just for that one
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item.
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>> and we can do
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>> we will
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>> got put down or city
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manager we couldn't be here
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today on the 22nd because we
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have a court about vision
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hearing that's the. Creep into
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that very quickly 22nd that
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we're you being the day
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because to do the opposite
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correct.
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>> now we're talking about not
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waiting until the end of
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SEPTEMBER having it on the
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case. Having a special meeting
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at 6 o'clock you can so what I
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do have a scheduled for right
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now right sitting blocking
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they're saying they keep a
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10:00am meeting on SEPTEMBER 8
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regular special meeting at
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06:00pm for just the one item.
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>> first reading of the
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ordinance. And keep the 22nd
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where is according to I mean
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we've changed to more city
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clerk to where.
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>> we've done our best to do
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it a day and night meeting but
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we have. Donald meetings to
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where it's both daytime and
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both nighttime so why would
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this differ in that category
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we could still the 6 o'clock
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at night and then the 6
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o'clock in the 20 seconds
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still yes, get it done nothing
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to say.
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>> I don't want to vote you
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the practice I want the past
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before for. Citizen
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consumption we just both not
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that that's even better for
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the citizens.
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>> it's just one of during the
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day which is why you have to
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practice understand that sir.
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I just want
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>> I
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>> the times and do the
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meeting on 8th. At 6 and do
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the meeting on the 20 whatever
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it is at 10 and you what the
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times you know there you can
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even be here for that we can
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do so we won't have the
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official poor you that would
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be or simply schedules second
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reading during a special
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meeting as well to both in a
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special meeting and not have
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to spring all I mean the years
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while there I questions of
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city attorney because I want
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to make sure that there
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wouldn't be any legal
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prejudice in terms of the port
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of but there's also.
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>> the fact that we want this
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before us we don't want this
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can kick down the road for a
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month 2 months 3 months people
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are concerned about this and
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the sooner we address it the
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sooner. In my personal opinion
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we put a moratorium in place
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you're all so if we could do
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it tomorrow, I'd be happy to
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do with them so if earliest is
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the 8th of SEPTEMBER. So be
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it. Let's do a special
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meeting, let's just get it
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done.
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>> mayor if I MAY.
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>> I'll call on
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>> here you've got a city
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preference.
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>> I'm if you want I think the
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vice used to second. We are
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all second meeting morning 10
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days before publication of the
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final.
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>> it you know be 9 days if
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you how we just thought.
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>> you know it's going to say
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same attorney was that we do
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it in the month of AUGUST so
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plea let's let's stick to
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motions.
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>> and not going all the way
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till SEPTEMBER. Maybe we can
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do it earlier and one of us is
[24:43]
missing and the quarter was
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there.
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>> and unanimously
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>> the motion so. Percy know
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major changes on hand. As far
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as actual ordinance to the I
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see trying to get isn't
[25:04]
working.
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>> I see trying to get there
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but with that said you know,
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everybody makes plans and
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stuff like that so if I don't
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think it's fair that we have a
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meeting without full bore I
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don't think it's for I mean we
[25:17]
have to make concessions to
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where we can meet when
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everybody comey I mean you
[25:23]
that stuff that you are going
[25:24]
on. Just met without you it
[25:27]
wouldn't be fair to you. So we
[25:28]
that's why we need discuss
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haven't a speeding and in for
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everybody, so commissioner
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vice mayor yeah, I just think
[25:37]
that this topic is too
[25:38]
important to not have a full
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board thank
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>> person would work. As a
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city attorney. Which first.
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And this is that need correct
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city manager here and that you
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just for your consideration.
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>> when when we thought was
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going to go and I don't think
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we can really change it too
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much around anyway just based
[26:10]
on electability we workshop
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for housing for this topic
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SEPTEMBER the 3rd which was
[26:16]
going to be in advance of you
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or your first meeting of the
[26:23]
day that meeting that will be
[26:24]
important to you as a workshop
[26:29]
in here you comment public
[26:30]
comment. And then represen to
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talk about the power side of
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the conversation. Peace
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represent what we can talk
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about the worst of the
[26:44]
conversation. Made it a dana
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this within range from the
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outside that window that will
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recommend that if you want to
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go see one go visit him before
[26:52]
that time. So you're going to
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see yourself staff will do the
[26:58]
same and that way down first
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time that you'll actually have
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some more independent
[27:02]
observations and data in order
[27:02]
to help you mission begin the
[27:05]
topic of conversation. I don't
[27:06]
think even the choose to make
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your fertile 31st is going to
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impact that in a very negative
[27:12]
way just making sure that
[27:13]
you're aware of it and you
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make your decision on your
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day.
[27:16]
>> thank you yeah, but it MAY
[27:20]
impacted too with prosser was
[27:23]
the thinking about different
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avenues and what what's being
[27:26]
projected to side rather have
[27:27]
more information prior to this
[27:28]
meeting less which is
[27:30]
appreciate that. I want a
[27:35]
motion. Believe in towards the
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8 oh I think
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>> I make a motion that we
[27:43]
schedule the first on the 31st
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at 6 o'clock be a special
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meeting. Second.
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>> motion on the floor made by
[27:51]
commissioner stokes to have
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the first AUGUST 31st at
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06:00pm seconded commissioner
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pedro. There's nothing to that
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please
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and passes 3 to myself
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and vice mayor dissenting vice
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and do yeah and just say if.
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>> if we don't take advantage
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of for more information and my
[28:29]
concern is we are running on
[28:34]
emotion and not on facts. So
[28:36]
I'm way more inclined to go
[28:41]
back to the asa and have an
[28:41]
opportunity to have a workshop
[28:44]
and I would very much like to
[28:45]
visit ahead for scale data
[28:46]
center and see it for myself
[28:50]
have not had that opportunity.
[28:51]
>> and I think it would be
[28:52]
good for all of us to have
[28:55]
that opportunity learn really
[28:55]
important that we make our
[28:58]
decisions based on facts.
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>> there would be appropriate.
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>> to comment on because
[29:04]
between first and second
[29:05]
reading plenty of time to do
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that.
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>> politician just commented
[29:13]
on same yeah and now get my
[29:13]
reasons why and then you can
[29:14]
comment on the ticket. If you
[29:19]
choose. No I was on the same
[29:21]
boat of this I wanted more
[29:22]
information prior to that and
[29:22]
one thing I was going to ask
[29:27]
city manager though
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>> MAY need to wear prior to
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the AUGUST 31st. If get some
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not not scheduled workshop or
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anything like that would I
[29:37]
would be.
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>> available that have on one.
[29:43]
>> time with either some of
[29:43]
these vendors or just a brief
[29:47]
synopsis with the oil and
[29:47]
staff.
[29:48]
>> one-on-one prior to the
[29:51]
31st about any new. Stuff
[29:52]
that's coming out, you know
[29:58]
different types technology
[29:59]
that the reason and also with
[30:01]
the onsite visit was I going
[30:02]
to be plans AUGUST if we could
[30:03]
possibly go to the on site
[30:06]
plan.
[30:10]
>> was going to for you to
[30:11]
schedule so you can all go
[30:12]
most like to independently
[30:19]
owned and there. Leaders.
[30:19]
>> the.
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>> the independent information
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that will commit feel directly
[30:21]
of peace river we will not
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have before they come to our
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site we have to talk about
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what we know as you requested
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you the #
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#
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#
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#
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#
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to help you in
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any way we can I think rivers
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and ability to present and
[30:38]
answer questions from you in
[30:39]
the community is going to be
[30:42]
extremely helpful in your
[30:42]
decision MAY.
[30:43]
>> yeah, I understand
[30:44]
commissioner stop saying
[30:45]
>> you know between first and
[30:48]
second reading this that other
[30:50]
but you know I'd like to have
[30:51]
information prior to the first
[30:51]
reading is just a front that's
[30:52]
my own personal. Yes, certain
[30:56]
point but. Anybody else got
[31:05]
anything to city attorney.
[31:05]
>> so have this second really
[31:11]
has a temper
[31:13]
>> it's not that's not 10 we
[31:13]
get to another special
[31:19]
meeting. After the 10 days is
[31:20]
a look at what the what the
[31:22]
statute requires is a second
[31:23]
10 days after publication.
[31:29]
Speight. So if we pass time.
[31:29]
>> we could publish it before
[31:32]
frustrating have time. Some of
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the title doesn't change
[31:42]
>> changes in joe. If you're
[31:47]
reached. Make that we can
[31:50]
schedule
[31:51]
>> and that would be
[31:52]
throughout the day time
[31:56]
meeting specialist because
[31:58]
we're going to do the 31st at
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do the daytime on okay look
[32:04]
for a motion for that.
[32:09]
Somebody make a motion.
[32:10]
>> you know make a motion on
[32:12]
the whole the entire just for
[32:13]
the ace of the game for the
[32:13]
secondary make a motion that
[32:15]
the second reading for on the
[32:21]
8. As part of the regular.
[32:21]
Ordinance procedure. Yeah.
[32:26]
>> okay got a motion on the
[32:29]
floor made by commissioner
[32:30]
stokes too confirmed the day
[32:30]
of the a's for the second
[32:34]
reading of the ordinance do I
[32:35]
have second second seconded
[32:36]
by commissioner ponchos
[32:44]
there's nothing to that lead
[32:45]
>> it's good solution by just
[32:50]
0. You know anything else.
[32:50]
City attorney city manager
[32:53]
city clerk. Everything good on
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the yeah, I think alright is 5
[33:05]
old. I'm sure meeting.
[33:10]
>> at wheels greece things
[33:12]
that don't belong in the
[33:12]
system.
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>> see a lot