[0:00] already high from

[0:03] excessive rainfall. It might

[0:06] take longer and that's normal.

[0:07] If you've ever seen grass and

[0:08] our retention ditches it MAY

[0:11] look like poor maintenance.

[0:11] But in many cases it's exactly

[0:12] what we want.

[0:16] But haitian helps filter out

[0:17] pollutants that was roads

[0:18] driveways

[0:24] and yards. It also slowed the

[0:25] water down giving the system

[0:26] time to move water safely

[0:27] without creating watch out for

[0:28] the retention ditches

[0:31] intersect with canals.

[0:33] Developers today are required

[0:34] to build retention ponds and

[0:37] engineer stormwater systems on

[0:38] their property. The system's

[0:39] hold water on site and only

[0:41] release it slowly into the

[0:42] city's network, commercial

[0:46] sites follow the same rules.

[0:47] Many new development is

[0:48] designed to reduce not

[0:49] increase sudden runoff into

[0:52] our system behind the scenes.

[0:52] >> coors public works teams

[0:58] that year round. Crews most

[0:58] wales clear calvert

[0:59] and maintain retention ditches

[1:03] and canals so water can keep

[1:04] moving. Sometimes that means

[1:04] using

[1:05] specialized equipment like a

[1:08] long stick excavators these

[1:10] large machines reach deep into

[1:10] canals

[1:11] to clear debris and keep water

[1:15] flowing efficiently. And after

[1:17] storms crews are on the ground

[1:18] inspecting repairing and

[1:19] responding quickly to changing

[1:21] conditions. It's a massive job

[1:21] and it never stops.

[1:25] But the system is only as

[1:27] strong as how we all treated.

[1:28] Residents played big part in

[1:31] keeping water moving. That

[1:31] means keeping swales and

[1:32] driveway culvert

[1:35] is clear. Never dumping grass

[1:35] clippings or debris in the

[1:37] ditches. And reporting

[1:38] problems when you

[1:43] see small actions that up and

[1:43] they keep the

[1:44] entire system working the way

[1:46] it was designed to. Trains

[1:48] in north port is complex. It

[1:50] was designed decades ago, most

[1:51] storms have grown more intense

[1:55] over the years. The system

[1:55] will continue to do its job

[1:56] when it's maintained and

[1:56] support

[2:00] we can make north port

[2:01] drainage system continue to

[2:02] protect our homes. Our

[2:03] community. And

[2:14] our future.

[2:16] >> in port families are

[2:21] finding more and more places

[2:21] bill.

[2:30] >> just for them we are in

[2:31] center

[2:41] >> today is tuesday SEPTEMBER

[2:42] 2026, it's 10:00am where the

[2:42] city chambers and I called the

[2:43] city commission regular

[2:46] meeting to order.

[2:49] Commissioners present are

[2:50] commissioner goodell MISTER

[2:53] Vice mayor london and

[2:54] commissioner petro there's a

[2:55] quorum present for this

[2:56] meeting also present our city

[2:58] manager fletcher city attorney

[3:01] fully know city passport

[3:02] specialist lender police paris

[3:07] fire chief titus requesting

[3:08] commissioners public

[3:08] participants and staff

[3:09] maintain order and decorum

[3:13] throughout this meeting city

[3:15] admission policy 2021 dash 0,

[3:18] 3, states that attendees show

[3:19] refrain from engaging in

[3:21] personal attacks enforce dress

[3:22] immaterial land already seen

[3:25] profane or disorderly conduct.

[3:27] Additionally meeting attendees

[3:30] must refrain from seen profane

[3:31] or disorderly conduct

[3:31] including hand clapping,

[3:35] yelling and similar

[3:35] demonstrations. Disturbs peace

[3:39] and good order of the meeting.

[3:40] >> commission all we something

[3:48] they serve.

[3:55] >> united states of stands

[3:56] nation under GOD indivisible

[3:56] with liberty and justice for

[4:03] all. Thank you I'm going to

[4:08] ask for approval of the

[4:10] >> have a motion on floor by

[4:11] commissioner still to approve

[4:13] the agenda do I have second

[4:14] second seconded by

[4:14] commissioner who vice mayor

[4:19] london. It's nothing to that

[4:23] and that passes 5 to 0. So

[4:27] public comment please ma'am.

[4:29] >> and her son I have and the

[4:43] havre.

[4:44] >> good morning commissioners.

[4:46] My name is jenna to I live in

[4:49] port in a support the data

[4:51] center moratorium. I have

[4:52] previously spoken about

[4:53] technical in consistencies in

[4:56] the deep park applications.

[4:58] Today I want to focus on the

[4:58] public people trail for the

[5:02] moratorium exclusion. The

[5:02] public a stellar record for

[5:07] this data center application.

[5:10] >> psd pee dash 2, 6, dash 0,

[5:11] 3, 3, 2, shows a submittal in

[5:14] issue date of AUGUST 31st, it

[5:19] shows a record summery around

[5:20] 04:00pm he's around 05:00pm

[5:21] and workflow status quote

[5:25] application in t awaiting

[5:26] plans. But obvious are first

[5:26] does not appear to be

[5:31] beginning of this application

[5:33] history. JULY to data centers

[5:34] documents including digitally

[5:36] signed plans from the 20 it.

[5:40] And applicant AUGUST 31st

[5:40] filing response to city

[5:44] comments from AUGUST 12th.

[5:46] That appears to indicate there

[5:47] was earlier submission or

[5:51] intake is associated with this

[5:52] application. But I've not

[5:52] found the public acela project

[5:55] number for that JULY's

[5:56] submission. The public a

[5:56] stellar record I can find for

[6:01] the dea park data center site

[6:03] development plan is psd pee

[6:07] dash 2, 6 dash 3, 3, 8, 2

[6:10] showing AUGUST 31st is the

[6:11] submittal t if the JUNE was

[6:11] the mission was later

[6:17] converted into. For the to I

[6:19] would expect the public record

[6:21] to show history identify the

[6:24] original intake record. Right

[6:27] now I can see the JULY

[6:27] documents and in AUGUST 31st

[6:30] to some of the submittal but

[6:31] not the official bridge

[6:34] between them. What official

[6:38] record connects the JULY

[6:40] submission. The AUGUST 12 city

[6:44] comments in the AUGUST 31st, a

[6:45] seller record that matters

[6:46] because this project is being

[6:47] treated differently under the

[6:53] moratorium. Even suddenly is

[6:55] the standard the public should

[6:57] know which submission and the

[6:59] exclusion and where it can be

[7:02] verified. My second concern is

[7:05] what that exclusion protects

[7:07] the applicants documents show

[7:08] major support infrastructure

[7:10] is not fully within this

[7:11] application. The plan's legal

[7:12] the electrical substation

[7:17] quote by others and the

[7:17] applicant's responses that

[7:20] will be developed leader under

[7:21] separate cover. Before that

[7:23] went SEPTEMBER 22nd second

[7:26] reading please identify the

[7:26] official submission that earns

[7:29] a fee exclusion. The record

[7:32] number indeed tied to it. The

[7:35] ordinance language allowing

[7:39] pst pee dash 2, 6, dash 0, 3,

[7:43] to to continue. And whether

[7:44] exclusion protects only that

[7:45] has filed also future

[7:46] separately permit it the

[7:55] structures. Thank you.

[8:00] >> good morning

[8:00] >> I'm going to take a totally

[8:01] different approach and kind of

[8:04] wing it here bear with I'm say

[8:06] for stuff that I for you.

[8:09] Representing.

[8:14] >> thousands upon thousands of

[8:15] citizens, not just within our

[8:18] city but the adjoining city

[8:19] also just like when we hear

[8:19] from the dias that you're

[8:20] representing the city as a

[8:23] whole.

[8:24] >> but get they're not showing

[8:25] up and they're not voting. We

[8:26] have this every low voting

[8:28] record. I'm doing the same.

[8:33] Appear before you to kind of

[8:35] plead the case of this data

[8:35] center and what it really

[8:36] means to our city and do we

[8:38] really need it within our city

[8:39] and what is the main purpose

[8:42] of having it within our city

[8:42] and do we have enough

[8:43] safeguards particles

[8:46] provisions within our city.

[8:47] All of that kind of this you

[8:51] know we do not. The movement

[8:54] is not just limited to a city

[8:54] is a nationwide movement and

[8:55] is just growing stronger and

[8:58] stronger and stronger.

[9:00] >> we've had states that are

[9:00] actually putting in

[9:04] moratoriums trying to put bans

[9:05] on it. The technological

[9:06] environment that we find

[9:07] ourselves in is moving so fast

[9:11] that. By the time a data

[9:15] center I center gets filled.

[9:16] It's almost obsolete because

[9:16] the technology has advanced

[9:18] way after that and then what

[9:22] are we left with possibility

[9:23] of having a empty data center

[9:25] and maybe a possible bradfield

[9:28] so we really don't know that

[9:29] is the purpose for this 18

[9:30] month moratorium that we are

[9:34] asking. Not to shorten it we

[9:34] need the full 18 months to

[9:36] really put everything that we

[9:41] need into our uldc I've got

[9:43] sam was going to speak to one

[9:44] of the protections that really

[9:46] need to be instituted

[9:47] immediately. But I just want

[9:51] to say with economic

[9:53] development strategy. We just

[9:55] can't selling out our city in

[9:56] the name of economic

[9:57] development and the tax base

[10:01] at risk of quality of life

[10:04] issues for us citizen. Quality

[10:05] of life issues disintegrating

[10:09] at a rapid pace because of all

[10:10] the development that's going

[10:11] on the affordable housing

[10:15] restrictions you've got run

[10:16] to. It's like where else is

[10:17] there to build what else can

[10:18] we build now here comes ai

[10:21] center and this particular

[10:22] it's not a data center at this

[10:23] particular square footage.

[10:26] It's a I and that should scare

[10:26] the #

[10:27] #

[10:29] out of almost

[10:30] everybody here. So again, I'm

[10:31] just standing for you to

[10:34] really listen to what the

[10:35] saying really consider because

[10:36] we've got a lot of smart

[10:39] people out there. That have

[10:40] excellent idea really just

[10:41] please consider them all when

[10:44] you're having a discussions.

[10:53] Thank you. Art.

[10:57] >> good morning, good morning.

[10:58] Now we have heard of florida

[10:59] resident 25 years north port

[11:03] tents. I received my term

[11:03] notice this year and I

[11:04] actually took the time to try

[11:07] to understand it for once. So

[11:09] the one issue that I didn't

[11:11] quite understand and I looked

[11:12] at was on the last it's and up

[11:15] maine and reconstruction.

[11:15] >> I assume that's capital

[11:21] projects. So I pulled up the

[11:22] of my neighborhood because I

[11:25] was curious who's paying what

[11:27] that I found out and the

[11:28] finance department that it's

[11:30] based on $46 per lot. That's

[11:32] what we pay into that fund. I

[11:35] have 4 lots. Combined so I pay

[11:40] a $184, I'm fine with that.

[11:41] What I'm not flying with is

[11:46] the fact that I sampled 40.

[11:47] Double triple quadruple lot in

[11:52] my small neighborhood just 40

[11:56] and 28, which is 70% I long.

[11:57] They're $46 they should be 90

[12:00] to one 38. There's one on here

[12:05] with side lots haley states

[12:06] their side lots ken do he pays

[12:08] $92. Your chain notices are

[12:14] wrong. And if that line is

[12:18] what else is is my concern so

[12:20] I'm going to give this to to

[12:21] the county and have her entry

[12:23] into the wreckage. I think

[12:26] this is a serious issue. I

[12:26] think somebody really needs to

[12:27] take a look at

[12:37] >> I

[12:48] >> have is the first

[12:51] >> I MAY I do have some for

[12:55] everybody agree to city clerk.

[12:56] Good morning commissioners and

[13:02] do. Citizens my name is samuel

[13:02] turpin thing I'm standing here

[13:05] as an independent resident who

[13:05] lived the literal nightmare

[13:09] resource collapse firsthand

[13:11] I'm not here for the political

[13:12] theater on today's agenda, I'm

[13:15] here to hand to an exact laker

[13:16] blueprint to save our

[13:19] community and a clear line in

[13:21] the sand. Let's be about the

[13:22] reality a multibillion-dollar

[13:23] developer has love to permit

[13:28] and to our system. Under

[13:30] florida law you cannot use

[13:32] senate 44 as a retrofit a time

[13:37] machine to about patient. Only

[13:42] way that the center it is it

[13:43] 180 administrative and

[13:44] sufficiency clout expires to

[13:48] it due to its own technical

[13:49] errors. Immediate danger

[13:53] to north community 7 florida.

[13:54] As the corporate head who is

[13:59] at second that the court fails

[14:00] play as well that bird chain

[14:00] of new to slide applications

[14:05] to are so loopholes. We do not

[14:07] have months to sit around and

[14:08] the slow moving steady task

[14:15] tune like that that is ahead

[14:19] in the and evidence that was a

[14:21] highly secure today's defense

[14:22] recognized that so we're not

[14:28] so it. Why the pending

[14:31] stockton, the moment, those

[14:32] commission votes to attempt to

[14:34] modify or regulations to since

[14:41] the released said shop this us

[14:42] view of entire to prison

[14:45] reject applications spiral

[14:52] after well the lou. If you you

[14:59] stop today stopped to

[14:59] employment has for the closet

[15:07] at kitchen. Official

[15:07] insufficient so stand about

[15:13] the rate they so then after

[15:17] you do your eminence snow has

[15:18] stopped in new parliament, you

[15:23] a 180 so that parliament put

[15:29] motion to use as has said you

[15:30] >> and that he shouldn't used

[15:31] in the first place and we

[15:37] would have to be here so I my

[15:38] another you're teaching wrong

[15:49] thing to do to he did office

[15:50] and all.

[16:12] >> good morning I that I come

[16:12] here you piece, I'm other

[16:19] criminal. Or too told, and

[16:23] always thing you do respect.

[16:34] Yes is set off and has degree.

[16:36] This is for me said staffing

[16:37] fuel those do should be given

[16:40] to be changed by ways. Way but

[16:47] it people end 27 finds

[16:59] everybody that you have 2

[17:01] weston's well you have good

[17:01] that we thought might not you

[17:09] spend you've got syria step

[17:13] says would we only a big and

[17:27] for in got the e. Men not of

[17:34] that. And that is action. And

[17:41] if not at all attention.

[17:42] Documentary and over-under

[17:50] view it. With just around $30

[17:59] a day. That's post close to

[18:08] jury. Can you into this to

[18:08] shop and I think my election

[18:12] between french and it I said

[18:21] that MAY be you. He did it in

[18:24] in united states it. He

[18:37] stopped short the that's for

[18:53] what does that it is $3 and do

[18:55] the company and show believe

[19:08] that evidence. Say to be just

[19:16] business. But

[19:30] >> cathy sam burgess

[19:32] >> good I'm a new port are

[19:32] PRESIDENT I'm very very upset

[19:37] about data center. And ok I

[19:40] just have a few comments our

[19:42] current unified development

[19:43] code is completely unequipped

[19:44] to handle unique industrial

[19:50] demands of these facilities.

[19:51] Hyperscale danger center is

[19:52] not a standard office park is

[19:57] a heavy industrial utility.

[19:58] These complexes, these

[19:59] complexes run continuous

[20:00] low-frequency cooling fans and

[20:03] backup generators create

[20:04] massive noise pollution

[20:05] destroying the peace to

[20:08] prosperity values, a nearby

[20:09] neighborhoods that would be

[20:10] very upsetting to me a kind of

[20:11] close to that I don't live

[20:12] that close, but I'm still very

[20:14] upset about furthermore more.

[20:17] For the morning. Our region

[20:19] cannot handle the resource

[20:19] train.

[20:22] We cannot sacrifice our

[20:25] drinking water supply and

[20:28] great stability or power grid

[20:28] stability for an industry that

[20:33] provides member term local

[20:34] jobs. And was taken thank you

[20:49] very much. Thank you MADAM.

[20:50] >> just everybody, violations

[20:56] that. Shortly after yeah. When

[20:58] the blood was in charge here

[21:01] the last of the 3 of the line

[21:04] first though cited placed the

[21:05] personal property my property,

[21:06] you try to tell me I could

[21:14] have. They came up with other

[21:14] things outside the 4 times but

[21:19] is coalitions and none of them

[21:20] 15 because I didn't do

[21:22] something wrong. But yet. I

[21:23] had to go through all of the

[21:23] #

[21:24] #

[21:24] that you guys put

[21:24] forth.

[21:33] And camera she

[21:36] everybody a lot cameras the

[21:37] 4th minute, a 5th of that I

[21:41] can think those. Leaders asked

[21:44] with week before 3 men from on

[21:50] the kids that I 600 people

[21:52] that had to give numbers in

[21:55] order to serviced by building

[21:58] department. I think you're all

[22:01] people, especially you 3.30.

[22:11] Thank you.

[22:13] >> morning. My put it out

[22:15] might over to 3, 9, 9, 4, 2,

[22:30] 3, 4, 1, today is

[22:44] >> for ultimately I meant no

[23:01] to hunters. On I think the

[23:14] council should be aware. Grant

[23:20] approval process.

[23:25] Wholeheartedly want to allow

[23:26] with that's when you're

[23:26] talking anything for

[23:27] multi-family apartment

[23:41] building.

[23:57] I think about him.

[24:02] Problem with that that

[24:04] knowledge with her leave it

[24:07] and you know in

[24:08] and for the fact

[24:27] >> I that that we would have.

[24:30] >> in 19 bring 2020 well.

[24:32] >> no

[24:36] >> department in end of the

[24:37] general public comment. You

[24:43] MAY that.

[24:44] >> but the city manager not

[24:44] there's ton financial

[24:48] decisions and not blame she

[24:49] would bring a new vehicle

[24:50] purchases brad and the time.

[24:58] To be a distraction magic

[24:59] populations and last but

[24:59] certainly

[25:04] not that and city of

[25:19] port gotten

[25:20] >> mining without for number

[25:24] 9, 3, 6 I'm a comment

[25:29] commission meeting at 10:00am

[25:32] nda the nondisclosure

[25:33] agreement mentioned going to

[25:34] be today.

[25:41] Is but it's not my aunt how we

[25:42] things in

[25:44] port and

[25:51] not transparent. I mean it it

[25:52] holding the information that

[25:54] important other than that and

[25:55] how we got into the situation

[26:04] we on and I first out so I

[26:06] hope that the see that and

[26:07] they some of the control in

[26:08] terms making decisions within

[26:12] the city. She was each every

[26:16] commissioner. And they should

[26:25] not all questioned making the

[26:28] decision me so let's take back

[26:29] some control

[26:35] over and put that back can.

[26:36] >> I will be watching that

[26:40] candidate and the u person of

[26:40] the on my way home thank you

[26:50] so much have

[26:56] >> and I not comment on

[27:05] >> and I didn't know

[27:16] >> starting with for style and

[27:18] for managing. I think you

[27:20] fallen in

[27:28] protect detrimental going to

[27:30] use your authority

[27:32] protect north port I think to

[27:36] be you that rate party under

[27:37] which the state and you have

[27:43] vision your man and the great

[27:48] that already at remaining your

[27:53] control starting get a and

[27:56] what's on label where

[28:00] residential what they and a

[28:01] logical the care they need to

[28:06] bored buildings and a lot

[28:06] attention.

[28:11] >> are high. Not allowed

[28:35] that's the best you not a MAY.

[28:42] Still final point

[28:52] >> all during the battle in

[29:05] not

[29:10] >> for tuesday SEPTEMBER

[29:13] public comment we that

[29:17] mentioned to to the ideas that

[29:20] they sharing with you

[29:23] regarding that the 44 how we

[29:24] prevent a new will protected

[29:24] from the

[29:32] hope you listen to it and take

[29:32] that

[29:33] consideration peaks on the

[29:34] items for today's meeting

[29:37] thank

[29:40] >> and some skiing. Good

[29:41] morning. Commissioners. My

[29:45] name is ann stislicki.

[29:46] >> and I'm calling in today

[29:47] with the direct mandate for

[29:48] the stylus we demand the

[29:50] immediate threat that meant a

[29:51] permanent wellfield protection

[29:52] ordinances right directly into

[29:53] our local land development

[29:53] regulations on the florida

[29:55] senate bill 4, 8, 4, we're

[30:00] with the administrative delays

[30:02] 12 study task force or legally

[30:02] risky moratoriums that trigger

[30:04] multi-million dollar developer

[30:07] lawsuits additional pending

[30:08] ordinance doctrine. You have

[30:11] the right now to officially

[30:12] announce your draft in these

[30:13] water protections instantly

[30:14] freezing any new hyperscale

[30:14] data center applications from

[30:18] sneaking into our borders. The

[30:19] political scientist and a

[30:19] strong the community is

[30:23] tracking exactly where each of

[30:23] you stand. Commissioner starts

[30:24] if you want to earn your

[30:25] re-election he will step up

[30:28] today staff administrative

[30:29] word salad and make that

[30:29] official mission to review and

[30:32] implement these welfare

[30:34] protections. Average if you

[30:35] want to campaign to have any

[30:35] drop credibility with the

[30:40] voters he will sign into onto

[30:41] ordinance immediately and stop

[30:41] using committee delays to

[30:44] protect family interests.

[30:44] Commissioner picture if you

[30:45] want to keep the outstanding

[30:46] following and community trust

[30:47] you have built, you will

[30:48] continue to lead the charge

[30:50] and fully support this ira

[30:54] flatow framework on the floor.

[30:54] Commissioners about I believe

[30:55] you sincere person who wants

[30:59] to do right by us. Town if you

[31:01] want to in the correct side

[31:02] history must sign onto these

[31:04] protections to protect our

[31:07] drinking water are facing an

[31:08] industrialist extinction event

[31:09] stop playing defense protect

[31:10] our well fields used sb 4, 8,

[31:11] 4, protect florida's water

[31:16] right now. Kate once well not

[31:18] believe the officials in our

[31:19] city racking the slide get off

[31:20] your high horse get out your

[31:21] wallet if you're elected and

[31:25] you be gone by now. Do the

[31:25] right thing by the people

[31:26] before we show on your

[31:30] doorstep. Want to

[31:31] commissioners my name is

[31:33] sherry and I'm writing today

[31:34] with the direct mandate for

[31:34] this dry as we demand the

[31:35] immediate drafting and

[31:39] enactment of. Herman

[31:40] protection ordinances right

[31:42] directly into land development

[31:43] regulations under florida

[31:45] senate bill 4, 8, 4, we're

[31:46] done with administrative

[31:47] delays study task force were

[31:48] legally risky moratoriums are

[31:51] multi-million dollar developer

[31:53] lawsuit under the judicial

[31:53] pending ordinance doctor and

[31:54] you have the legal authority

[31:55] right now to officially

[31:57] announce your draft means

[31:58] water protections and so

[31:59] freezing any new hyperscale

[32:00] data center applications from

[32:03] sneaking into our borders. It

[32:04] doesn't will not economic

[32:04] development to the city adonis

[32:08] are will not bring revenue to

[32:10] the city. A real police are

[32:10] water and where it will

[32:11] destroy habitat for wildlife

[32:12] it will cause damage beyond

[32:12] the data center please stop

[32:16] this from happening using that

[32:17] you saw possible. I'll be

[32:18] watching and I will voting in

[32:22] NOVEMBER. David regarding the

[32:25] city commission regular

[32:26] meeting on 31st twenty-twenty

[32:27] section specifically the

[32:27] motion to impose a moratorium

[32:30] center's at the forest. By

[32:33] commissioner this moratorium

[32:34] motion was what the meeting

[32:35] was about and what the

[32:35] hundreds of citizens that took

[32:38] time out of their life said

[32:39] they wanted. The amended

[32:40] motion by commissioner starts

[32:41] the second by commissioner

[32:43] about the and the post am

[32:45] legend line

[32:46] didn't work. A master class in

[32:50] absolute power us. Just how

[32:50] many hundreds of

[32:51] citizen showing up take for

[32:52] you to grow a spine and do

[33:00] your job. It into mandate for

[33:02] that style as we demand the

[33:03] immediate draft and I kind of

[33:05] permanent wellfield protection

[33:06] ordinances britt directly into

[33:07] our development regulations

[33:08] under florida senate bill 44

[33:09] we're done with the ministry

[33:15] delays. Anonymous this meeting

[33:17] a sham you do not represent

[33:19] the people of port stokes your

[33:20] costume flip-flopping cursing

[33:21] at petro amateur cussing at

[33:22] citizens or your blatant

[33:23] discussed for citizens want to

[33:27] silence the public. It's

[33:27] disgraceful. We take people's

[33:28] right to speech banning

[33:29] clapping even for freely

[33:32] caught and cursed and the late

[33:32] PRESIDENT's you pay your

[33:35] salary is atrocious. This is

[33:37] not leadership. This is

[33:38] hypocrisy and abuse of power

[33:39] you are drunk on power and

[33:41] maybe also drunk you 2 need to

[33:41] be random breathalyzer test it

[33:44] before you come into the city

[33:44] hall. If a who works for him

[33:48] fire city manager fletcher

[33:49] immediately for the nda

[33:49] secrecy, a backdoor deals

[33:52] involving a liner and

[33:53] development services and these

[33:54] clothes or maintenance item

[33:56] forton information from the

[33:58] public. The pad meeting was a

[34:00] disgrace. It was a great

[34:01] sponsorship for the center's

[34:04] it was disgusting like a

[34:05] sleazy car salesman MISTER

[34:09] Siddiqui himself this was did

[34:10] any of our tax dollars went

[34:11] toward that's disgusting

[34:15] one-sided pony show your

[34:16] misappropriation of our tax

[34:17] dollars and erosion of trust

[34:18] are all examples of failure

[34:20] that will be your legacy and

[34:24] all of this is for point

[34:25] repugnant to also to shun and

[34:27] the city's charter do it now

[34:28] or be prepared for the full

[34:29] force of an angry public that

[34:30] will no longer tolerate this

[34:31] the people of north port are

[34:34] watching we will remember now

[34:35] number will be memorable

[34:39] careers in public service

[34:40] sector. Well, reverend martin

[34:41] shane you are a disgrace

[34:41] failures and you will be

[34:49] forever remembered a the are

[34:52] left to address item 26 dash

[34:53] 1051 we need to tighten the

[34:54] uldc code to protect our

[34:55] environment and our beautiful

[34:57] city I think it's been made

[34:58] clear that the residents are

[35:01] not in favor of a desk a

[35:02] little new york and there are

[35:05] a lot of struck a habitat and

[35:06] ac 6 an ac time has anyone

[35:07] verify posed snr isn't in a

[35:11] scrub jay area.

[35:12] >> I'm sure there are lots of

[35:13] gopher tortoises in area also

[35:14] along with multiple other

[35:15] wildlife, the constant hum of

[35:16] the center and the running of

[35:16] multiple generators is

[35:19] deafening noise pollution has

[35:20] there been any long-term

[35:22] studies of the noise and light

[35:22] effects in the virginia and

[35:24] ohio got center's already up

[35:25] and running what about water

[35:28] and air pollution stumbles. We

[35:30] ton and hurricane area. What

[35:31] happens if a major storm hits

[35:34] one of these centers can we

[35:35] specify center's because of

[35:36] the fragile lives propensity

[35:40] on stable ground and sinkholes

[35:41] what about possible

[35:41] contamination of groundwater

[35:42] most of us in the area have

[35:43] well sweeney clean drinking

[35:46] water survive. There needs to

[35:48] be tighter regulations to

[35:49] prohibit the multiple problems

[35:51] that are inherent to a data

[35:53] center I'm sure wants to push

[35:54] for a or so they can reap the

[35:58] benefits of second downtown's

[35:59] of electricity. It's there

[36:00] needs to be protections for

[36:00] all of us not just for bay

[36:04] energy and developers. Please

[36:05] do your homework and reach out

[36:06] to the cities that have

[36:07] successfully lot guys that are

[36:07] so you can follow suit our

[36:08] city and its residents to

[36:14] pounce on you. Greg holder.

[36:16] There are measures later today

[36:18] I want just 3 specific issues

[36:20] disastrous uldc rewrite the

[36:20] administrative approval

[36:22] process that stripped away

[36:23] meaningful or science city

[36:24] staff entering into

[36:24] non-disclosure agreements

[36:25] without the knowledge or

[36:28] consent of this commission. Of

[36:29] those issues when they come

[36:31] before you but they're not

[36:33] isolated problems together

[36:35] they reveal pattern

[36:35] diminishing transparency

[36:36] living oversight and avoiding

[36:37] accountability accountability

[36:39] starts at the top. The

[36:39] fingerprints of the city

[36:40] manager and director

[36:41] development services are on

[36:43] each of these issues through

[36:45] their direct decisions

[36:47] delegated authority or staff

[36:47] under their direction and they

[36:48] have helped put the city and

[36:49] its residents in the position

[36:51] we are now trying to correct

[36:52] at some point accountability

[36:53] has to mean something we

[36:54] cannot keep reversing bad

[36:55] decisions rewriting policies

[36:57] and fixing broken processes.

[36:58] But unlike the leadership's

[37:01] responsible for them. I have

[37:04] that the city manager and the

[37:04] director of development

[37:05] services I'm asking this

[37:07] commission to terminate both

[37:08] immediately for cost that's

[37:08] supported by established back

[37:11] city policy of our contract.

[37:11] This isn't personal. It's

[37:12] leadership. Accountability

[37:15] later today we can debate each

[37:15] each train right now I'm

[37:19] asking you to look at the

[37:20] first there are 3 separate

[37:22] failures, these are symptoms

[37:24] of the leadership politics and

[37:24] the policies without

[37:25] addressing the leadership

[37:26] created them is not

[37:33] accountability its cleanup.

[37:33] Assist. Good morning.

[37:34] Commissioners. My name is

[37:35] jamie, I'm calling in today

[37:36] with a direct mandate for the

[37:38] we demand that media drafting

[37:39] and enactment a permanent

[37:40] wellfield protection ordinance

[37:40] is written directly into our

[37:43] local land development

[37:43] regulations.

[37:46] >> on a florida race we're

[37:46] done with the administrative

[37:48] delays study task force or

[37:52] legally risky moratoriums

[37:52] extra multimillion-dollar

[37:54] under the additional pending

[37:55] doctor or dentist doctor and

[37:56] you have the legal authority

[37:56] right now to officially

[37:58] announce your draft these

[37:59] water protections, it's only

[38:00] freezing any new occasions

[38:02] from sneaking into our

[38:04] borders. The political line in

[38:05] the sand, a strong today and

[38:07] the community is tracking

[38:08] exactly each of you stance.

[38:10] Commissioner stoves if you

[38:11] want earn your reelection

[38:13] you'll step up stop them a

[38:13] straight up or and make that

[38:14] official motion to review and

[38:16] implement these welfare

[38:18] protections but he campaign to

[38:19] have any drop of credibility

[38:20] with the voters he will sign

[38:21] on to ordinance immediately

[38:22] stop using committee delays

[38:24] fact family interest

[38:25] commissioner petro if you want

[38:29] to keep standing following

[38:30] community trust we have built

[38:30] you'll continue to lead the

[38:31] charge fully support this

[38:35] ironclad legal framework on

[38:36] the floor commissioners about

[38:36] believe you are sincere person

[38:38] who wants to do the right

[38:41] thing by just how if you want

[38:42] to fall on side of history

[38:44] must sign off to wellfield

[38:44] protections to protect our

[38:47] drinking water aquifers facing

[38:49] an industrial extinction event

[38:50] stop playing defense protect

[38:50] our wellfields you zesty

[38:51] protect florida's water right

[39:01] now. Jane citizens enter port.

[39:03] I'm speaking today state my

[39:05] strong opposition to bring

[39:07] enters into our communities

[39:07] facilities operate 24 7 with

[39:09] massive industrial plant

[39:12] systems and diesel backup

[39:13] generators to create constant

[39:14] high-decibel noise and play

[39:14] our air they consume millions

[39:17] gallons of water every water

[39:18] legal system that residents

[39:19] desperately need and they wait

[39:20] out local force and over land

[39:21] destroying the beautiful

[39:23] wildlife that makes our town

[39:25] special. We should protecting

[39:26] our communities, quiet

[39:27] neighborhoods clean

[39:27] environment and natural

[39:28] resources, not handing them

[39:30] over to industrial centers. I

[39:31] strongly urge the council to

[39:36] vote no on proposal. You know

[39:38] you the commissioners about

[39:39] MISTER Should be ashamed of

[39:40] the way they refused to vote

[39:41] MISTER Patrick's proposal on

[39:45] 31 to include the current data

[39:48] center proposal and the center

[39:49] only moving after already

[39:50] approving an amendment to not

[39:52] only the current proposal

[39:53] makes no sense and completely

[39:53] negated MISTER Crutcher's

[39:54] proposal before it could even

[39:57] be going on. The commissioners

[39:58] MISTER Kutcher seem to be

[40:00] letting city staff who have

[40:00] not been elected make all the

[40:01] decisions for a statement was

[40:05] even made so that. Today 9 to

[40:06] the makes the big bucks

[40:08] referring to the city

[40:09] attorney, the sums up so

[40:13] perfectly in your own words,

[40:17] worship you think the city

[40:17] staff implore us elected

[40:18] officials to think for

[40:19] yourself not just listen to

[40:23] money, thank you. Kim and all

[40:24] that's energy use too much

[40:25] water there too noisy and take

[40:27] away animals natural habitat

[40:28] too many negatives outweigh

[40:32] any manage lindor I supposed

[40:38] to senators, however, coulter

[40:40] is a futuristic and visionary

[40:41] in technology known for

[40:42] pioneering this can commerce

[40:43] cancer connect and scantling

[40:44] qr codes that scan with your

[40:46] mobile phones platform. Police

[40:51] stations and all countries

[40:52] that specializes in computer

[40:53] vision and machine learning

[40:55] and artificial intelligent

[40:56] platforms along with energy

[40:57] production innovative building

[41:00] technologies and analytics

[41:01] forensic sciences, past

[41:03] winners of the smithsonian's

[41:04] larry, a medal for most likely

[41:06] to change citing his recent

[41:07] book explains the importance

[41:09] of why we must move forward

[41:11] with that sn his boat, the 3

[41:13] to communist china secret war

[41:15] to end american ai center's

[41:16] china's relentless drive for a

[41:16] is no longer a distance

[41:21] threat. For a massive state

[41:23] that infrastructure, energy

[41:24] strategic control global

[41:26] supply chains the ccp is

[41:28] building a nonstop about

[41:29] technology empower america

[41:31] debates policy china executes

[41:34] executes this is not whether

[41:35] trend it is the decisive about

[41:37] the other of the 21st century

[41:38] where center's power

[41:39] generation cooling systems and

[41:40] sovereign energy

[41:41] infrastructure will determine

[41:42] who controls intelligence

[41:44] economic supremacy and

[41:45] national security this book is

[41:46] not a statement of opinion is

[41:47] about facts as to why we must

[41:50] move center's I agree with the

[41:51] majority of the people that

[41:51] they should never be placed in

[41:54] areas where people live work

[41:57] or school. This misinformation

[41:58] about senators ask sumption

[41:58] electricity or off your base

[42:02] propaganda still wants to

[42:04] instill fear in people who are

[42:05] your knowledge if the city

[42:07] commission is interested I

[42:09] love to connect you with

[42:09] MISTER Paul to present this

[42:10] topic in a lot of money in for

[42:16] matt. Thank you. Commissioners

[42:17] please and commonwealth

[42:19] protection with our lprs c 44

[42:23] and the epa endorsed well

[42:24] action. He wants to live with

[42:25] but no can live without water,

[42:28] you need water to please

[42:30] freeze. And you for center's

[42:31] applications and all matters

[42:32] and north are tech north

[42:36] port's residents. Regarding 26

[42:40] dash 1051 2610 2326 1022 as

[42:42] air is across the state are

[42:43] area is designated running

[42:44] level not enough drinking

[42:47] water for projected 2030

[42:48] population, your these

[42:48] environmentally harmful

[42:51] without the data center. It is

[42:52] in close proximity to this

[42:56] neighborhood a little ho-hum

[42:57] waterways. The snow there is a

[42:59] source of north port's

[43:00] drinking water aquifer

[43:00] transmit city the rate at

[43:01] which groundwater flow as far

[43:07] as is the second lowest rate.

[43:09] 10,000 feet square per day

[43:11] having top of and geological

[43:12] survey has been done to this

[43:13] part of the peace river

[43:14] watershed while listening to

[43:18] the at I and the pra rws I

[43:20] represented I heard we have

[43:22] not my assumption and many I

[43:25] don't know I understand why

[43:25] you have show no need

[43:32] representative plc go the isi

[43:33] conveniently lost engine on

[43:34] JULY 2720 26, no wonder he

[43:35] didn't have any definitive

[43:38] answers to the commissioner's

[43:40] questions that guy participate

[43:41] in local government jobs to

[43:41] discuss the benefits and

[43:44] technology needs of large

[43:46] digital facilities. According

[43:48] to communities should about

[43:49] the way center's the way they

[43:51] have made any major economic

[43:51] development proposal. That's

[43:53] impacts and 4 with the

[44:01] community's should meet

[44:01] rigorous standard for use

[44:05] traffic noise land use public

[44:08] safety, global canada 337

[44:12] china 449 uk 5.23 germany, 5

[44:13] 29 us 5,427 north port is no

[44:19] place for guests enter. Us. I

[44:20] am one the resident port for

[44:22] over 25 years I spent the last

[44:23] meeting in my opinion has not

[44:25] changed diapers data centers.

[44:26] I do propose site which is to

[44:27] question my home and saw 2

[44:33] year. Police council of the

[44:34] right now and the time limit

[44:35] and deny the permit based

[44:35] efficiency this does not count

[44:36] as a burdensome act and we

[44:38] cannot be sued part of the

[44:39] pending ordinance stop turn

[44:45] out all occasions right well,

[44:46] protections bsp for this in

[44:47] short little communities

[44:48] retain full authority over

[44:49] comprehensive planning and

[44:49] zoning for largely because

[44:54] customers. The moment, current

[44:55] permit expires the commission

[44:57] must immediately permanent

[44:58] wellfield protection

[44:59] ordinances directly into land

[45:02] development regulation lprs

[45:04] any future hyperscale projects

[45:06] will then be forced to legally

[45:07] prove its massive water

[45:09] consumption will not harm

[45:11] local infrastructure or water

[45:12] resources we do not risky

[45:14] sweeping moratoriums are messy

[45:14] bands that by multi million

[45:15] dollar about her lawsuit and

[45:19] are asking one 80 by ministry

[45:19] actually kill the current

[45:23] permit using illicit counties,

[45:24] pending ordinance doctor and

[45:27] to freeze new corporate tech

[45:28] team today and reading

[45:29] targeted infrastructures and

[45:31] wellfield that actions and are

[45:32] asking for tomorrow and

[45:35] protect to stop for a secure

[45:36] real results. One unified down

[45:38] land development code and are

[45:39] skilled a nurse to

[45:43] nondisclosure agreements don't

[45:43] allow don't approve the staff

[45:44] center application reversed

[45:45] administrative approval

[45:49] process. Within island about

[45:51] coach change this ac

[45:53] commercial and or industrial

[45:54] lands basically an ordinance

[45:55] creating a permanent ban for

[45:57] all north presenting district

[45:59] concerned about the water use

[45:59] electricity demand quality of

[46:00] life preserving our

[46:01] communities make the right

[46:02] choice. When series see

[46:08] dorian. Please more and more

[46:09] development without first

[46:09] addressing the problems

[46:11] created by road we already

[46:12] have north port does not need

[46:15] to keep adding housing and

[46:16] expanding development happened

[46:17] infrastructure schools and

[46:18] public services are still

[46:19] trying to catch up residents

[46:22] who already live here should

[46:22] be the priority I do not

[46:23] support expanding all part by

[46:24] another 81 acres until the

[46:26] city can show base. That's

[46:27] surrounding infrastructure can

[46:35] surely handle additional I was

[46:36] the mayor 100 be built in port

[46:37] at the commission meeting last

[46:38] week numerous residents were

[46:39] very vocal about thinking up

[46:44] center's in port that's

[46:45] terrible out also expressed

[46:46] unhappiness with the fact that

[46:47] someone at city hall

[46:48] apparently up for best inside

[46:49] also the residents were kept

[46:50] in the dark for a year or

[46:52] more. This is no way to govern

[46:54] the city the data center will

[46:55] without a doubt that port

[46:55] residents and for

[47:01] contaminated. Our white strong

[47:03] national cars there and

[47:05] isolation and lead to

[47:06] everybody you all need to say

[47:10] now the stupid thank you all

[47:11] I'm not necessarily husband

[47:12] but I strongly believe that

[47:15] the proposed site is wrong if

[47:15] we must have then building in

[47:16] the middle of nowhere

[47:19] somewhere between here which

[47:21] rachel the citizens of north

[47:22] port and not a implement

[47:26] implementation of the a. Sam

[47:27] dean martin now good morning

[47:29] commissioners, my name is sam,

[47:31] I'm commenting today with the

[47:31] director for this time as we

[47:32] demand the immediate drought I

[47:35] had a permanent wellfield

[47:37] protection ordinances directly

[47:39] into our land development

[47:42] regulations senate bill for we

[47:43] are with the ministry delays

[47:44] 12 month study task force or

[47:44] legally risky moratoriums that

[47:48] trigger multi-million dollar

[47:49] over lawsuits under additional

[47:51] pending war doctor you have

[47:52] the legal authority right now

[47:54] to officially announce were

[47:54] dropped in these water

[47:55] protections insulate freezing

[47:57] any new hyperscale data center

[47:58] applications from sneaking

[48:00] into wars the political and

[48:01] has dropped today and the

[48:01] community is tracking exactly

[48:05] reach a new stance. For is

[48:07] facing an industrial station,

[48:08] a stop playing defense protect

[48:09] wellfields here's sb 48 for

[48:10] and protect florida's water

[48:15] right now. Stop my name is

[48:17] like to thank commissioner

[48:22] stokes 2610 5126 1023 2610 22

[48:24] 26 time 51 please consider

[48:25] protecting our friend around a

[48:26] lot noise and air pollution

[48:28] and protecting wildlife

[48:30] habitat, even though that

[48:34] senator have a pr stunt scheme

[48:35] to lure you as we found last

[48:37] week's meeting there are

[48:38] several a reminder of one of

[48:39] the presenter stated that

[48:40] there could be 2200 to 506

[48:42] figure jobs as a result of

[48:44] building. But asked to provide

[48:45] commissioners about could not

[48:48] provide any statistics that

[48:50] were factual 2610 23 nda

[48:51] should not be allowed under

[48:52] the sunshine law that allows

[48:53] access to information to

[48:54] protect government from the

[48:58] deceptive practices and

[48:59] procedures, 2610 22

[49:01] administrative approval needs

[49:01] to revert back to the hands of

[49:02] the commissioners as they were

[49:06] elected by the resident of the

[49:08] city that they now ask for and

[49:09] those represent staff and

[49:10] other point in individual

[49:12] should work with the

[49:12] commissioners as they

[49:13] represent the will of the

[49:15] residents and not any agenda

[49:16] staff maybe brining

[49:16] individuals that they have no

[49:17] way out into the residence.

[49:18] Thank you for your time and

[49:18] consideration. That's all

[49:39] there. For months city clerk.

[49:40] The current vacancies for the

[49:41] following boards and

[49:42] committees include our

[49:43] investment for selection

[49:45] committee charter review

[49:46] advisory board citizens tax

[49:47] oversight committee community

[49:49] economic development advisory

[49:50] board environmental advisory

[49:52] board joint management

[49:54] advisory recreation advisory

[49:56] board and planning and zoning

[49:57] advisory board if anyone would

[49:57] like more information please

[49:58] see the city clerk's office

[50:03] thank you.

[50:03] >> thank you. Okay we're going

[50:04] to move to the consent city

[50:08] manager any of vote.

[50:25] >> you 26 stash.

[50:25] Have public

[50:28] comment city clerk, I'm going

[50:32] to request a motion.

[50:35] >> and get MISTER Mayor go

[50:39] ahead I move to approve the

[50:41] consent agenda, pulling which

[50:42] is 26 dash 1062 for

[50:45] discussion.

[50:46] >> thank you have a motion on

[50:50] the floor made vice seconded

[50:53] have a second by commissioner

[50:54] for discussion that there's

[50:57] nothing to that please

[51:03] and that passes 5, city

[51:04] manager who pull out of you.

[51:07] Commissioner better.

[51:09] Commissioner floor is yours

[51:12] for discussion.

[51:12] >> I just was is discussed the

[51:17] sighting. To find out more

[51:21] details about specific request

[51:27] questions are. Every call.

[51:32] From the the cycle 2526 fiscal

[51:37] year. Quest for high water

[51:38] vehicle it

[51:44] we didn't approve that amount

[51:45] when I

[51:48] saw I just want to find out.

[51:56] What to with and was found

[51:57] most purchased or was it

[51:58] something so just more

[52:00] clarification if you so if you

[52:10] can. If the staff can address

[52:13] >> orange county's fire chief

[52:14] or for cheap really talk to

[52:14] the details. But yes that was

[52:17] funded this is separate

[52:18] vehicle. So we've been working

[52:18] with france

[52:23] JULY 2.

[52:26] >> curly deputy fire chief

[52:28] high water vehicle that's in

[52:30] this year's budget was ordered

[52:31] its not do until the

[52:32] >> latter end of 2027 that's

[52:36] when it will arrive. We also

[52:38] sought out for a second high

[52:40] water vehicle which we saw

[52:42] grant which was partially

[52:43] funding the high water vehicle

[52:44] to cvg worker financing grants

[52:49] on that that's what fy 20

[52:50] seven's budget. This agenda

[52:51] item is authorization to use

[52:53] the piggy back to purchase set

[52:57] vehicle.

[52:57] >> for him use those grant

[53:02] money use it that's just I'm

[53:03] sorry to hear if we don't use

[53:05] amount that has been approved

[53:12] by a grant. We use money what

[53:14] would to put together specific

[53:15] second turnover the grants but

[53:16] we have a signed agreement

[53:16] that came to commission a

[53:18] earlier in the year.

[53:23] >> for the approval for this

[53:24] grant. So we're moving forward

[53:27] with that process and would be

[53:29] I'm the next fiscal year. But

[53:35] if we do not. Prove this

[53:36] pathway for the purchase of

[53:37] that vehicle that yes there

[53:41] would be a loss of grant

[53:41] funding.

[53:44] >> you we have in the city.

[53:46] >> so we've been dual purpose

[53:48] saying our brush trucks for

[53:49] also for high water vehicles

[53:52] these would be the first to of

[53:53] these kind of this kind so

[53:56] we're replacing one that we've

[53:57] been borrowing that vehicle

[53:58] through florida forest

[53:59] service. But we had a lot of

[54:03] mechanical issues with it. The

[54:04] other one that we're

[54:05] purchasing is new so we would

[54:06] essentially we would end up

[54:08] with 3 of you.

[54:13] >> from what I understand

[54:14] police department has its own

[54:17] or no public works they have

[54:18] similar.

[54:19] >> I can't speak to what the

[54:20] police department asked for

[54:23] high water vehicles, but when

[54:24] an event happens the fire

[54:25] department takes over

[54:27] operational control of all

[54:29] high water rescue vehicle

[54:31] operations whether it be for

[54:32] evacuations or but I can speak

[54:36] to the vehicles that we have.

[54:37] >> so in the city we do know

[54:39] we do not know how many high

[54:41] water because we I know the

[54:43] fire department has 3 I

[54:43] believe that police department

[54:45] has sought they have their

[54:48] bear cat and I can deputy

[54:50] rouse speak to assets that

[54:52] they use for access to flooded

[54:54] areas for law enforcement

[54:55] protections, but for fire we'd

[55:01] be looking to have 3. Scott

[55:01] from district make an

[55:06] important clarification so. As

[55:08] chief hurley said in the past

[55:08] we've used to brush trucks

[55:09] that we get from forestry, we

[55:11] use them to access high water

[55:12] areas. They're not designed or

[55:15] built for that so we've done

[55:18] that because it wasn't in the

[55:20] sesame but I can tell it

[55:22] causes a tremendous amount of

[55:22] damage water intrusion into

[55:23] the actions and to out lots

[55:26] and lots of problems. Often

[55:26] times we've had breakdowns

[55:30] partially part way through an

[55:31] event and pretty significant

[55:32] repairs. Afterwards on because

[55:34] that are very difficult to get

[55:36] parts for the vehicles that

[55:36] were getting when we purchase

[55:39] last year and couldn't grant

[55:41] for their specifically

[55:42] designed and purpose to be

[55:44] high water vehicles so the

[55:45] actions are water fjord cats

[55:46] they're they're designed for

[55:49] this purpose. Fire rescue's

[55:52] purpose and mission is for

[55:54] rescue that's what we police

[55:56] department has high water

[55:56] vehicles for certain things

[55:59] but that is to get out out to

[56:00] areas that are flooded, they

[56:01] can do what their job which

[56:01] dropped the primary purposes

[56:02] is not rescue same month. Any

[56:05] other department that has high

[56:08] water vehicle particularly

[56:10] purpose for them access areas

[56:11] perform their duties if those

[56:12] vehicles are available during

[56:15] storm or event. And we can

[56:15] borrow them and put them under

[56:16] our mission as part of our

[56:18] rescue do that. Different

[56:21] apartments have them because

[56:22] utilities still needs to

[56:25] access areas that are our

[56:26] flood to get to areas. The

[56:26] police department still needs

[56:29] to access areas well and make

[56:30] sure that people are breaking

[56:31] into houses and flooded areas

[56:41] or to helps clear.

[56:42] >> warren commission deputy

[56:43] chief morales that he answered

[56:44] questions, currently right now

[56:47] the police only has one which

[56:48] is the bearcat which has its

[56:50] limitations that can only try

[56:52] to rub traversed about 4 feet

[56:54] of water with the startling it

[56:55] has its limitations but we did

[56:56] have in this budget coming in

[57:00] here. We did. I will high

[57:02] water vehicle that we're

[57:02] seeking for through a law

[57:05] enforcement impact fees.

[57:12] >> public

[57:13] >> speak our structure we have

[57:13] high water vehicle that we use

[57:14] for recovery of like the

[57:19] calls. Worst that either

[57:19] deployed and get stranded or

[57:20] get stranded for some other

[57:30] reason.

[57:31] >> coming the end, but you

[57:34] know we as a city this entire

[57:39] organization we have to be you

[57:44] know embrace that concept

[57:47] sharing the resources do so.

[57:49] Guess this purchase

[57:50] specifically because it was.

[57:56] To grants and thank you. Think

[58:03] that department for division.

[58:04] Thank there's nobody else so

[58:14] look for a motion. I move to

[58:16] the utilization of so spread

[58:18] of contract number 0, 3, 2, 8,

[58:23] 2, 4, dash c e r with

[58:24] certified staying less service

[58:28] dba was smart for the one-time

[58:30] purchase. A high water rescue

[58:36] vehicle and fiscal year 2027.

[58:36] Utilizing sarasota county

[58:40] community development block

[58:40] grant funding. In an amount

[58:49] not to exceed $478,000 $823

[58:50] motion on the floor made by

[58:52] vice mayor seconded by

[58:53] commissioner

[58:58] >> there's nothing to vote.

[59:02] Old too

[59:11] public hearings. This is a

[59:11] digitial and I request a

[59:12] motion to direct the city

[59:16] clerk to read by title so

[59:17] floor made by commissioner

[59:19] stow seconded by vice mayor

[59:26] there's nothing to bo. And

[59:28] that passes 5, 0, city

[59:32] ordinance number 2026 just 22.

[59:34] >> and ordinance of the fl

[59:36] approving petition number pmc

[59:39] pa dash 25 dash 0, 3, 5, 6, 0,

[59:40] 2, men in the village village

[59:42] district pattern plan west

[59:46] villages ak part 2 update

[59:48] non-residential last time

[59:49] regulations and establish

[59:51] consistent definitions for

[59:52] public institutional uses and

[59:54] civic spaces amending section

[59:55] 4003.1 of the unified land

[59:56] development code uldc to

[59:59] incorporate them ended pattern

[1:00:00] plan reference amending

[1:00:04] section 3005.2 with the uldc

[1:00:06] to require village, the wall

[1:00:07] signs to comply with the uldc

[1:00:10] chapter 5 standards and to

[1:00:11] provide deemed compliance and

[1:00:12] legal non-conforming status

[1:00:13] for certain existing signs

[1:00:14] providing for findings

[1:00:14] providing for adoption

[1:00:17] providing for complex complex

[1:00:17] severability codification

[1:00:21] effective date. There have

[1:00:23] been no the party status

[1:00:24] requests received for this one

[1:00:25] and can everyone wishing

[1:00:26] provide testimony please stand

[1:00:31] raise your right hand. You

[1:00:31] swear or affirm that the

[1:00:32] testimony you're about to

[1:00:33] provide you and sure to best

[1:00:33] you're not stopping to thank

[1:00:39] you. Thank you

[1:00:40] >> I'm looking for a parte

[1:00:42] communications commissioner

[1:00:45] >> only played. Stations the

[1:00:52] staff during job.

[1:00:54] >> nothing I have nothing but

[1:00:55] for commissioner petro that's

[1:00:56] my agenda briefing going with

[1:01:00] that agenda and if you.

[1:01:11] Presentation by applicant.

[1:01:12] >> jones senior vice PRESIDENT

[1:01:13] With well in part and I have

[1:01:18] been sworn. The nexus of this

[1:01:25] request actually came out the

[1:01:26] ppp amendment will be the next

[1:01:30] slide item village e. Point a

[1:01:30] couple years or you may

[1:01:34] remember that estimates

[1:01:35] requested that they be

[1:01:36] included in our village ev dpp

[1:01:40] because they are.

[1:01:41] >> 28 acre site was not big

[1:01:41] enough to qualify for of the

[1:01:45] tpp. What we realized working

[1:01:48] through those nuances with

[1:01:49] each since a semi just happen

[1:01:52] clean a governmental agency.

[1:01:54] They would basically be exempt

[1:01:57] from certain signs like

[1:02:00] lesions so the nexus of

[1:02:01] changes actually a g 8 has

[1:02:05] already built emergency says

[1:02:05] all room in well-lit parking

[1:02:08] and bought 30 acres to build

[1:02:09] hospital. So there's a

[1:02:10] potential down the road for 2

[1:02:12] hospitals be a mile apart with

[1:02:16] 2 different signage standard.

[1:02:16] So we started the process and

[1:02:18] was agreed upon point to

[1:02:21] update to the dpp so both

[1:02:23] hospitals would operate the

[1:02:24] same. Under the same

[1:02:28] guidelines. Through that was

[1:02:29] other things that staff run-up

[1:02:32] just cleanup of the original

[1:02:33] bpp so with that I'm going to

[1:02:34] the presentation over that's

[1:02:38] when ski a planner from stan

[1:02:39] who actually did the blocking

[1:02:41] tackling and prepared to the

[1:02:42] dpp amendment. But it really

[1:02:42] started with just one that

[1:02:46] clean up the front. The book

[1:02:48] that we have that we work with

[1:03:04] him down south thank

[1:03:05] >> do have apartment

[1:03:12] presentation of it pull thank

[1:03:23] I expand. So the whole show

[1:03:37] one.

[1:03:37] >> it so that you need to do

[1:03:42] is you gotta start home. Okay

[1:03:44] I don't know.

[1:03:49] >> farm okay for everybody

[1:03:50] okay good morning, everyone.

[1:03:51] My name is hannah smolinski

[1:03:52] I'm a planner stand tech and i

[1:03:56] have been sworn. I'm here to

[1:03:56] present an amendment to the

[1:03:57] village village district

[1:04:00] pattern plan. I'm here to

[1:04:05] applicants on the this is a

[1:04:06] two-part application

[1:04:07] consisting of a village

[1:04:08] district pattern plan

[1:04:09] amendment and a uldc text

[1:04:14] amendment. Is located within

[1:04:15] baldwin park within the

[1:04:18] southwest quadrant of us 41

[1:04:20] and west villages parkway and

[1:04:25] it's approximately 595 a

[1:04:27] little bit of background, the

[1:04:30] ppp was originally adopted in

[1:04:32] SEPTEMBER of 2017 since not

[1:04:34] adoption. It's been amended

[1:04:37] twice first and MAY of

[1:04:37] recommendations for mobile

[1:04:38] food dispensing vehicles and

[1:04:42] commercial floating docks and

[1:04:43] modifying people for the

[1:04:44] second amendment was in APRIL

[1:04:48] of 2023 to revise minimum

[1:04:48] parking standards to include a

[1:04:50] provision to modify parking

[1:04:53] standards on a case-by-case

[1:04:54] basis and to provide parking

[1:04:55] standards not otherwise

[1:05:00] specified. A component of this

[1:05:02] amendment is updating language

[1:05:05] with section 4013003.1 of the

[1:05:08] pattern plan. The existing

[1:05:10] language related to science

[1:05:11] standards and review criteria

[1:05:12] is being changed to science

[1:05:17] standards and review shown on

[1:05:18] this slide the updated from

[1:05:19] which treats not all sides

[1:05:22] must comply with standards

[1:05:22] established in the uldc and be

[1:05:23] approved by the restaurant

[1:05:24] just review committee. Prior

[1:05:29] to city review. As it relates

[1:05:30] the building was signed to the

[1:05:32] practice has been updated all

[1:05:35] building wall sine shall

[1:05:36] comply with chapter 5 of the

[1:05:38] uldc and the advent of any

[1:05:39] conflicts between the pot plan

[1:05:40] and the uldc the uldc standard

[1:05:45] shall prevail. Another

[1:05:49] amendment to section relates

[1:05:53] to signage design and

[1:05:53] installation standards shown

[1:05:56] on this slide, this section is

[1:05:57] proposed to be removed from

[1:05:57] the pattern plan and instead

[1:06:00] refers to maintaining

[1:06:01] compliance section 13 of

[1:06:04] district pot and vote the

[1:06:06] existing language on the part

[1:06:08] of plan is similar to the

[1:06:09] standards within the pattern

[1:06:12] about this amendment would

[1:06:13] reduce redundancy and offering

[1:06:14] more consistent review process

[1:06:17] for staff. And it looks like

[1:06:18] my computers and comment

[1:06:19] during a level ended

[1:06:24] statement.

[1:06:26] >> yeah, I think it took

[1:06:30] control of want share now.

[1:06:42] Yeah, I'm gonna take it off.

[1:06:59] >> help is on the way. Not so

[1:07:14] thank

[1:07:20] I can now

[1:07:21] all right. I'm just going to

[1:07:26] keep

[1:07:29] >> lastly we're also adding

[1:07:30] the definition for public

[1:07:31] institutional uses and civic

[1:07:32] spaces into this pattern plan

[1:07:36] to provide consistency across

[1:07:37] all dpp's as john previously

[1:07:41] stated definition it's already

[1:07:41] included in pryor a potted

[1:07:42] plants are adding get into

[1:07:45] this one as well. The second

[1:07:48] part of the amendment is the

[1:07:48] uldc parks amendment and the

[1:07:51] purpose is to c between the

[1:07:56] pollen plan and the uldc. As

[1:07:58] shown on this site section

[1:07:59] 3005.2 of the code is being

[1:07:59] amended to match the language

[1:08:04] within the pattern on

[1:08:05] amendment is necessary to make

[1:08:05] consistency between the

[1:08:06] pattern plan for village d and

[1:08:10] the uldc. There numerous

[1:08:13] benefits to this amendment,

[1:08:14] including simplifying staff

[1:08:18] review up signs up for village

[1:08:19] and serves the public interest

[1:08:20] and support access to

[1:08:22] essential services such as

[1:08:24] medical facilities provides

[1:08:24] consistency between the power

[1:08:28] plant and the uldc it causes

[1:08:29] no harm to adjacent properties

[1:08:32] road networks are emergency

[1:08:33] access. And it maintains

[1:08:34] architectural compatibility

[1:08:35] through the restaurant just

[1:08:38] review committee review. With

[1:08:38] that we ask for your approval.

[1:08:44] Thank you.

[1:08:59] >> thank

[1:09:02] >> please it don't take

[1:09:15] control. I don't know working

[1:09:20] good morning. Commissioners.

[1:09:21] >> for the record sherry well

[1:09:22] that grant planner 3 planning

[1:09:23] and zoning does of vision and

[1:09:27] I have been sworn. So has

[1:09:28] presented and it put thank

[1:09:30] you. So this is we're

[1:09:34] discussing the village the

[1:09:38] village district pattern plan

[1:09:39] amendment. It is petition

[1:09:44] number pm cpa 25 dash 0, 3, 5,

[1:09:51] 6, 0, the ordinance 2026, 22.

[1:09:53] Okay some highlights of

[1:09:56] applicant is katie of of icp

[1:10:00] stantec consulting services

[1:10:01] the owner is main street light

[1:10:05] ranch the property is located

[1:10:06] west help west villages

[1:10:11] parkway in south of us 41.

[1:10:13] Proximate property sizes

[1:10:16] 595.21 total acres. So with

[1:10:21] the village it comprises of

[1:10:22] the downtown area if you're

[1:10:26] familiar with the area. It's

[1:10:27] home, with the downtown and

[1:10:28] the fire station is where the

[1:10:31] big lake just so that there is

[1:10:32] some contacts so the purpose

[1:10:34] of this application as stated

[1:10:36] by the applicant is to

[1:10:38] standardize the sign

[1:10:39] regulations by adopting the

[1:10:40] 2024 unified land development

[1:10:46] code chapter 5. And then we

[1:10:48] also have amend section 3005.2

[1:10:54] of the uldc. This is

[1:10:57] concerning all non residential

[1:11:00] wall are also amending the

[1:11:01] village gdp to clarify very

[1:11:03] specifically that the unified

[1:11:04] land development code will

[1:11:04] take precedence over the

[1:11:09] village district pattern plan

[1:11:11] and the applicant is required

[1:11:14] the wbrc a profile so the wbrc

[1:11:17] is the west village's review

[1:11:17] committee is outside of the

[1:11:18] city is their review committee

[1:11:24] for their design standards.

[1:11:26] They and also they have to

[1:11:27] have the approval for all

[1:11:28] signage before it goes to

[1:11:30] building permit for city

[1:11:34] approval. In addition to that

[1:11:35] definitions have been updated

[1:11:39] to included public

[1:11:40] institutional uses and civic

[1:11:42] spaces in the village dvd pay

[1:11:43] this is consistent consistent

[1:11:43] with the village district

[1:11:48] pattern plan. Also to

[1:11:50] establish legal nonconforming

[1:11:50] status for all signage legally

[1:11:54] permitted or installed before

[1:11:56] the ordinance is effective day

[1:11:58] and what does that mean so

[1:12:00] once the ordinance becomes

[1:12:02] effective any new signage will

[1:12:03] have to comply with the

[1:12:04] chapter 5 of the unified land

[1:12:08] development code for signage.

[1:12:10] A pivot use be a provision has

[1:12:12] been placed in for signs that

[1:12:15] have been legally permitted

[1:12:16] legally installed that they

[1:12:17] can continue without creating

[1:12:19] any issues for any of the

[1:12:24] owners to come into compliance

[1:12:25] also in evaluating that we

[1:12:26] wanted to have that provision

[1:12:31] just in case. Any of the signs

[1:12:32] now our chapter 5 in the

[1:12:36] unified land development code

[1:12:39] is more flexible than the

[1:12:39] provisions that they currently

[1:12:40] have in the village dvd pp

[1:12:44] they're very restrictive and

[1:12:45] what they did and also this

[1:12:49] would bring a consistency. For

[1:12:51] all signage. In addition we

[1:12:53] will have to amend section

[1:12:57] 4003.1 of the uldc to

[1:12:58] reference the village g

[1:12:59] village district pattern plan

[1:13:01] so our current uldc has a

[1:13:03] listing of all of the villages

[1:13:04] the history and all of the

[1:13:08] ordinances so. When wendy if

[1:13:10] this is approved by the city

[1:13:12] commission and that will

[1:13:13] automatically update unified

[1:13:18] land development code. So it

[1:13:20] was previously stated there is

[1:13:25] a long approval regarding this

[1:13:28] particular village. So 2017

[1:13:29] SEPTEMBER 26, the original

[1:13:33] villages town centered village

[1:13:36] was approved in 2021 there

[1:13:38] were the provisions to ask for

[1:13:41] food trucks to regulate mobile

[1:13:43] food, commercial docks

[1:13:45] landscape buffers we did not

[1:13:48] have any provisions of code at

[1:13:50] that time to allow for those

[1:13:52] mobile food vendors or for a

[1:13:57] commercial law. APRIL 2520 23.

[1:13:59] Another man that was bought to

[1:14:00] commission to adjust parking

[1:14:02] standards on a case-by-case

[1:14:03] basis. So I'd like to explain

[1:14:06] that a little bit our current

[1:14:08] unified land development if

[1:14:10] there is a for parking that's

[1:14:15] not explicitly stated how many

[1:14:17] parking spaces. Up they can

[1:14:18] administrative approval by a

[1:14:21] transportation expert showing.

[1:14:25] But if there's needs to be a

[1:14:25] reduction or increase in

[1:14:26] parking it has to be

[1:14:26] justified. There has to be

[1:14:30] data that supports that so

[1:14:32] this is very similar to that

[1:14:34] this is not we're not changing

[1:14:35] that in plan it will continue

[1:14:43] on. So the application details

[1:14:44] the timeline this application

[1:14:45] was submitted AUGUST 25th

[1:14:50] 2025. And again to amend the

[1:14:52] village d the tpp concerning

[1:15:01] what I just explained. So site

[1:15:02] informations to be a future

[1:15:04] land use map is village of the

[1:15:04] which is the village

[1:15:06] designation as well as the

[1:15:10] zoning the existing land uses

[1:15:11] is a recreation and cultural

[1:15:11] events and mixed use

[1:15:15] comprising of commercial

[1:15:17] multi. Family development also

[1:15:26] a hotel on the site here. This

[1:15:30] has undergone multi department

[1:15:31] review with in every area of

[1:15:33] with the development review

[1:15:35] committee. So a lot of the

[1:15:36] staff with you because this is

[1:15:40] not related to changing of any

[1:15:43] land use or construction

[1:15:44] element it simply adopting and

[1:15:47] incorporating our signage so

[1:15:50] there were no for parks and

[1:15:53] rec and then there were no

[1:15:54] responses there's no response

[1:15:54] is it meant that the reviewer

[1:15:58] had no comments or concerns,

[1:15:59] especially for storm water

[1:16:01] they had no response there is

[1:16:02] no changes to storm water with

[1:16:03] this amendment or any thing

[1:16:06] like as I previously stated

[1:16:06] regarding development of the

[1:16:13] site. So in order to evaluate

[1:16:13] things we have to make sure

[1:16:14] this complies with consistency

[1:16:17] with our city our

[1:16:17] comprehensive plan. Also the

[1:16:22] unified land development code.

[1:16:23] So the proposed amendment does

[1:16:24] align with the comprehensive

[1:16:26] plan, the future land use go

[1:16:29] by creating consistent unified

[1:16:31] science standards that will

[1:16:32] minimize visual blight safety

[1:16:35] hazards in regulatory

[1:16:36] conflict. Furthermore the

[1:16:40] amenity hears policy 5.1

[1:16:42] subsection f by updating

[1:16:44] village g sign regulations to

[1:16:46] meet citywide standards while

[1:16:47] protecting existing businesses

[1:16:48] through a deemed compliance

[1:16:53] mechanism permitted

[1:16:54] non-residential while signage

[1:16:55] and I do want to emphasize

[1:16:56] that end it is only the flick

[1:17:03] to all signage. Legal review

[1:17:06] in the business impact

[1:17:08] statement ordinance 2026 dash

[1:17:10] 22 which is a company in your

[1:17:12] packet with all the has been

[1:17:14] reviewed and approved by the

[1:17:14] city attorney's office and is

[1:17:18] legally correct asked to form

[1:17:20] pursuant to florida statute

[1:17:24] section 1, 6, 6.0 4 one

[1:17:26] foresee a business impact

[1:17:27] statement was not required

[1:17:27] because ordinance is enacted

[1:17:32] to implement the comprehensive

[1:17:32] plan amendment.

[1:17:33] >> in the land development

[1:17:35] regulations initiated by

[1:17:36] applicant I private party at

[1:17:41] holiday. Statutory compliance

[1:17:46] in concurrence uldc

[1:17:46] amendments.

[1:17:47] >> so the current uldc if

[1:17:48] you're doing master concept

[1:17:53] plan.

[1:17:53] >> it is it is there's a

[1:17:55] little bit of a difference in

[1:17:56] how process that's process by

[1:17:57] resolution it also comes

[1:18:00] before the commission. However

[1:18:02] we do not have an

[1:18:03] administrative a mechanism for

[1:18:05] this because it was the

[1:18:07] pattern plan adopted by

[1:18:07] ordinance so we're amending it

[1:18:12] as a master concept plan

[1:18:12] amendment. However, ordinances

[1:18:15] or resolutions cannot

[1:18:18] ordinance so the original

[1:18:18] approval in subsequent

[1:18:19] approvals were by ordinance

[1:18:20] that's why this is presented

[1:18:23] to commission by ordinance. In

[1:18:24] addition to the ordinance is a

[1:18:27] dual purpose vehicle, not only

[1:18:30] does it and then the pattern

[1:18:30] plan it also amends the

[1:18:31] unified land development code

[1:18:34] section to incorporate by

[1:18:38] reference this pattern plan.

[1:18:38] Noticing public notice

[1:18:42] requirements were met they

[1:18:44] have to follow the florida

[1:18:48] statutes section 1, 6, 6.0 4,

[1:18:51] 1, 3 and section 7.0 1 c

[1:18:51] of north port city charter

[1:18:55] needing ordinances highest.

[1:18:57] >> 10 days prior to adoption

[1:18:59] and also notices were mailed

[1:19:01] to the owner the property

[1:19:02] owners within the 1320 feet

[1:19:09] buffer radius as required.

[1:19:09] This item was presented before

[1:19:11] the planning and zoning

[1:19:16] advisory board 7/16/2020

[1:19:16] cents. The board voted 5, 0

[1:19:20] unanimously to approve these

[1:19:22] amendments. So staff based on

[1:19:23] the information provided is on

[1:19:27] asking the commission to

[1:19:28] consider and moving the item

[1:19:34] to second meeting, thank you.

[1:19:40] >> thank rebuttal applicant.

[1:19:46] There's no staff.

[1:19:46] >> thank staff has no

[1:19:49] rebuttal, thank you thank you.

[1:19:53] >> city public that.

[1:19:54] >> commission questions

[1:19:58] discussions

[1:19:58] >> commissioner thank you

[1:20:02] mayor.

[1:20:07] >> and this is just 2. Oh I

[1:20:09] think or signage matches and

[1:20:11] par with the rest of are

[1:20:17] citing or c. Well I questions

[1:20:22] causes. One of the last ones

[1:20:26] to preserve them. So that you

[1:20:30] only see you met in 2. 2 of

[1:20:34] are we addressing that.

[1:20:35] >> so how that was stated in a

[1:20:39] perhaps again explain it so

[1:20:40] our old unified land

[1:20:41] development code when the

[1:20:42] pattern plans were not to have

[1:20:46] specific outline for the

[1:20:47] pattern plan. We do not have

[1:20:49] new plans and a unified land

[1:20:50] development code any new

[1:20:53] village district is created by

[1:20:57] a master concept plan. It's

[1:20:58] the same premises but tricky

[1:21:00] part that we had with this is

[1:21:01] because it's adopted by

[1:21:04] ordinance we have to follow

[1:21:06] the ordinance and at least the

[1:21:08] noticing requirements does

[1:21:08] that answer your question I

[1:21:11] hope.

[1:21:16] >> well I'm getting at is.

[1:21:17] >> so we've into this in the

[1:21:21] future we have plans amend our

[1:21:24] uldc it wouldn't be necessary

[1:21:25] to do so so the what I mean

[1:21:27] that the unified land

[1:21:28] development code does not have

[1:21:29] the mechanism it doesn't have

[1:21:30] mechanism that the old uldc

[1:21:34] had to amend plans. So what we

[1:21:36] are doing is we're calling him

[1:21:39] master concept plan, it's the

[1:21:40] same and it's the approval is

[1:21:45] following the same as it was.

[1:21:47] >> so in the future when get a

[1:21:48] new village you would not have

[1:21:51] the pattern plan.

[1:21:52] >> she would not be creating a

[1:21:54] pattern plan like you had

[1:21:56] field coach. It would be a

[1:21:57] master concept plan and it

[1:22:00] would be called village and it

[1:22:03] would follow that process by

[1:22:04] resolution okay. Thank you for

[1:22:07] them, the other

[1:22:08] >> on slide state of the

[1:22:12] senate bill. This establishes

[1:22:15] non-compliance us. Signage

[1:22:21] that. Was there before the

[1:22:28] stewardess went into effect.

[1:22:30] >> so mean what's the not

[1:22:30] apply school site will be

[1:22:34] changed to meet the cold so.

[1:22:34] >> the provision that we put

[1:22:39] in to have that standards for

[1:22:39] compliance. If they didn't

[1:22:40] have a permit application and

[1:22:43] house at time when this was

[1:22:47] adopted it would still be

[1:22:48] deemed compliant. So the

[1:22:49] provision would be

[1:22:54] >> and also for the legal

[1:22:55] nonconforming status. We

[1:22:58] wanted to incorporate also any

[1:22:59] signs that are not legally

[1:23:04] compliant not conforming after

[1:23:04] the day then they would have

[1:23:05] to follow the provisions of

[1:23:06] the unified land development

[1:23:07] code for non conformance we

[1:23:11] wanted to put that in there

[1:23:13] because we did not want to

[1:23:15] have signs that are already

[1:23:18] through the process bd

[1:23:19] noncompliance then they would

[1:23:21] have to as you said bring it

[1:23:22] in to conformance and that's

[1:23:23] what that provision is not

[1:23:25] would be included.

[1:23:31] >> thank you very well, so

[1:23:34] >> thank you vice MISTER Mayor

[1:23:35] I have a quick question from

[1:23:39] missile so so that I

[1:23:45] understand sarasota memorial

[1:23:51] hospital. At while in park

[1:23:54] will operate under the same

[1:23:55] sign sarasota memorial

[1:23:59] hospital on sumpter and that

[1:23:59] will be a specified in our

[1:24:04] uldc is that correct.

[1:24:05] >> so the sarasota memorial

[1:24:05] hospital is not related to

[1:24:09] village g it's actually we can

[1:24:11] discuss it with the village e

[1:24:12] that's incorporated the

[1:24:15] sarasota memorial hospital

[1:24:17] pace. So those regulations in

[1:24:19] their for their signs for

[1:24:20] institutional are in there. So

[1:24:25] the sarasota memorial hospital

[1:24:27] on a sumpter they went through

[1:24:29] development master plan

[1:24:30] process here with the

[1:24:31] commission and part of that

[1:24:32] the commission approved

[1:24:35] waivers for their signage

[1:24:37] because it is an institutional

[1:24:38] use to be did not have

[1:24:40] anything in our uldc at that

[1:24:41] time so that will be their

[1:24:45] governing document, okay.

[1:24:46] >> and then what is

[1:24:47] implication for hca when they

[1:24:51] build their hospital.

[1:24:52] >> so with this if age to able

[1:24:56] to adhere with the signage

[1:24:58] following the uldc we have the

[1:25:02] for that it would be included.

[1:25:05] There are more signage allowed

[1:25:09] also if it's defined as an

[1:25:10] institutional use government

[1:25:11] I'm not sure what that

[1:25:13] designation would they're

[1:25:15] exempt from the signage so I

[1:25:15] can't evaluate at that time I

[1:25:18] know that following what their

[1:25:22] uldc the new current does have

[1:25:25] more on mount signage allowed.

[1:25:26] >> and what the okay, thank

[1:25:32] you're very welcome.

[1:25:35] >> yes it thank you all

[1:25:37] commissioner stowers very

[1:25:38] briefly basically the idea was

[1:25:41] to create a compatibility so

[1:25:46] that west that's age hca built

[1:25:47] little ys in this village

[1:25:47] bayside is needs to be

[1:25:48] consistent that's the whole I

[1:25:54] it. Pretty much. It says yes.

[1:25:58] But it is.

[1:26:00] >> sure you just explain that

[1:26:01] does not preclude either

[1:26:05] estimation village age will of

[1:26:09] h and built up that are coming

[1:26:11] in asking for a way fix but

[1:26:13] right now we've now set the

[1:26:19] ground. The baseline same

[1:26:22] >> all

[1:26:28] >> okay go thank you. MISTER

[1:26:30] Brzezinski remember when we

[1:26:31] just asked this issue quite a

[1:26:38] while. There was a

[1:26:39] disagreement between. The dpp

[1:26:43] and sarasota memorial. At

[1:26:45] wellen park regarding their

[1:26:48] signs. At the direction of the

[1:26:49] commission at that point in

[1:26:56] time. Was to request that w

[1:26:58] damien dpp in sarasota

[1:27:00] memorial with the help of

[1:27:03] staff. Reconcile their

[1:27:07] differences regarding signage.

[1:27:08] Am I understanding correctly

[1:27:13] that these changes. Address

[1:27:13] that to spew are is there work

[1:27:17] to be

[1:27:18] >> no there's no more work to

[1:27:20] be that was all team, a lift

[1:27:20] more than signage if you

[1:27:27] remember. 8, 1, to be part of

[1:27:31] the you know village evp. But

[1:27:34] they did not want to. Maker

[1:27:39] the architecture standards

[1:27:39] more proven well in part said

[1:27:42] no we're not going to do what

[1:27:47] we we agree. Memorial was

[1:27:48] without some since series of

[1:27:52] design guidelines. Is that you

[1:27:53] know we basically said if you

[1:27:53] build this the venice hospital

[1:27:57] we would approve it right but

[1:27:59] they're like we don't know

[1:28:00] what technological changes are

[1:28:02] going to occur that affect the

[1:28:03] look of the so we built some

[1:28:04] design guidelines that we both

[1:28:08] can live with. As you know we

[1:28:12] take a look landscaping very

[1:28:15] seriously but we worked that

[1:28:16] out prior to securing approval

[1:28:17] for that peace will roughly 2

[1:28:19] years ago.

[1:28:25] >> ok thank yelled. Closing

[1:28:25] arguments.

[1:28:34] >> staff.

[1:28:35] >> staff is requesting that

[1:28:37] the commission approved the

[1:28:38] ordinance has were second

[1:28:40] creating based on the

[1:28:41] information and the facts

[1:28:43] provided before thank you.

[1:28:53] >> applicant come. Request

[1:28:53] approval because the school

[1:28:54] basically cleans up a lot of

[1:28:58] things and makes consistent.

[1:28:58] Set rules for everybody to

[1:29:04] fall.

[1:29:04] >> close public hearing and

[1:29:10] request a want to continue

[1:29:10] ordinance 2026 dash 22 the

[1:29:16] second reading of SEPTEMBER

[1:29:16] 22nd 2026. Have a motion on

[1:29:18] the floor made by commissioner

[1:29:19] stokes to continue ordinance

[1:29:22] number 2026 dash 22 the second

[1:29:24] reading on SEPTEMBER 22nd

[1:29:27] 2026. And that was seconded by

[1:29:28] commissioner ball. There's

[1:29:31] nothing to that please passes

[1:29:39] 5 to 0.

[1:29:41] >> moving now to ordinance 20

[1:29:41] to 26 23. This is also apply

[1:29:46] to digital. Karen and I

[1:29:46] request a motion direct the

[1:29:49] city the motion on the floor

[1:29:51] are made by commissioner

[1:29:54] stokes don't have a seconded

[1:29:56] by commissioner petro there's

[1:30:03] nothing to that please vote.

[1:30:06] Passes 5, 0 city clerk can

[1:30:09] read by title please ordinance

[1:30:11] number 2020 success, 23 an

[1:30:12] ordinance of the city of

[1:30:17] titian number of pnc pa dash

[1:30:19] 24 dashed.

[1:30:20] >> 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, 3

[1:30:21] formally the pa dash 24 dash

[1:30:22] 0, 8, 2, men in the village

[1:30:25] even district pattern plan.

[1:30:26] >> west villages ak well in

[1:30:28] part to expand the district

[1:30:28] county by incorporating

[1:30:33] approximately 81 acres of land

[1:30:33] modifying development

[1:30:35] entitlements and update

[1:30:35] signage and parking

[1:30:39] regulations amending section

[1:30:40] 4003.1 of the unified land

[1:30:41] development the amended

[1:30:42] pattern plan by reference

[1:30:46] amending section 3005.2 of the

[1:30:47] uldc to require village east

[1:30:48] signage to comply with the

[1:30:51] uldc chapter 5 standards

[1:30:52] provide deemed compliance and

[1:30:54] legal non-conforming status

[1:30:55] for certain existing signs

[1:30:56] providing for findings

[1:30:57] adoption complex severability

[1:31:00] codification and affected date

[1:31:02] there have been no green party

[1:31:03] requests received I can

[1:31:04] everyone wishing to provide

[1:31:04] testimony please stand raise

[1:31:10] your right hand. Just that the

[1:31:10] testimony you're about to

[1:31:11] provide us to an accurate to

[1:31:12] the best your knowledge to

[1:31:21] help you thank you.

[1:31:21] >> parte communications

[1:31:22] commissioner, the

[1:31:31] >> for. Commissioner have

[1:31:35] trouble not accept the and

[1:31:36] just everything when we

[1:31:37] discussed vice mayor and then

[1:31:48] for me for me. Presentation

[1:31:48] applicant john was key senior

[1:31:49] vice PRESIDENT And I have been

[1:31:51] sworn.

[1:32:00] >> the p the amendment. To

[1:32:01] basically the nexus of this

[1:32:04] was to adding 60 acres across

[1:32:04] clay moore from the koch at a

[1:32:09] park. Maybe we call can I

[1:32:12] think it was 2017. So there's

[1:32:13] a school district purchased

[1:32:16] this property from for the k

[1:32:21] through 8 facility. Shortly

[1:32:23] thereafter. The atlanta braves

[1:32:24] decided located and put a

[1:32:26] stadium across the street.

[1:32:29] 2019 when I got here working

[1:32:32] with the school district did

[1:32:33] determine probably not the

[1:32:35] best location for k through 8.

[1:32:35] School across from the

[1:32:40] stadium. That's what led to

[1:32:41] the school district's

[1:32:42] acquisition of a 130 acres

[1:32:48] from our entities for what the

[1:32:49] new high school and they have

[1:32:50] room and 130 acre parcel for

[1:32:52] future k through as part of

[1:32:53] the transaction. We re

[1:32:56] purchase at the market rate,

[1:33:00] 60 acres from schools. It

[1:33:03] would be intent was always put

[1:33:05] it back into one of our the

[1:33:07] dpp's it seemed to make the

[1:33:07] most sense to included with

[1:33:10] village ev which continuous

[1:33:13] with that parcel. We actually

[1:33:15] started this process actually

[1:33:22] before h. Came so this is kind

[1:33:23] of going through a life cycle

[1:33:23] that's own adjusting and

[1:33:25] adapting to. The market

[1:33:26] conditions and what's

[1:33:31] occurred. So as there's only 2

[1:33:32] properties in village even are

[1:33:37] not at all. It is age partial

[1:33:38] and we have a 9 acre parcel

[1:33:40] along river road. It will be

[1:33:42] north the plate gets north to

[1:33:43] play more. When play more gets

[1:33:45] expanded our extended here in

[1:33:48] the next 6 to 9 months and

[1:33:49] that piece we already have

[1:33:54] sold for commercial use. What

[1:33:56] we amend led the 60 acres into

[1:34:00] the village so with that again

[1:34:02] I'm going to turn over whiskey

[1:34:07] stand who get hearing of the

[1:34:09] water people appeal to prepare

[1:34:09] this document to updated to

[1:34:10] meet with you all the state

[1:34:11] standards that have. Coming

[1:34:15] up. Existence since we started

[1:34:21] the process outlet for explain

[1:34:23] >> thank before she gets

[1:34:24] started commissioner stokes

[1:34:24] did you have any ex parte

[1:34:39] communications thank go ahead.

[1:34:40] >> good morning again hannah

[1:34:41] smolinski I'm up on stand tech

[1:34:45] and I have been sworn. I'm

[1:34:46] here to present the amendment

[1:34:46] to the village g village

[1:34:51] district pattern plan. Is a

[1:34:51] one part application

[1:34:52] consisting of a pattern plan

[1:34:56] amendment. She is located

[1:34:58] within rahm heart and the

[1:34:59] southeast quadrant of camille

[1:34:59] and trail and west villages

[1:35:04] parkway. It was originally

[1:35:06] adopted in JULY of 2019 and

[1:35:09] has 101 time since adoption.

[1:35:12] It was amended in AUGUST of

[1:35:15] 2024 to incorporate the 20

[1:35:16] acre sarasota memorial

[1:35:17] hospital parcel into village

[1:35:18] yvonne tree and establish site

[1:35:19] development regulations for

[1:35:24] the hospital site. The purpose

[1:35:26] dpp amendment is to add

[1:35:26] approximately 60 acres of land

[1:35:30] to village g and land use as

[1:35:31] update language to reflect it

[1:35:34] was in conditions and update

[1:35:34] off 8 years and emotional

[1:35:39] criteria for this slide shows

[1:35:39] the existing and proposed

[1:35:40] boundaries of the village e.

[1:35:47] Proposing to expand from 334

[1:35:50] cases to 415 acres. I'm not 60

[1:35:51] acres is located right here

[1:35:55] with the red circle and also

[1:35:57] due to the realignment play

[1:35:57] more rober adding

[1:35:58] approximately 21 acres

[1:35:58] stability

[1:36:01] as well. For a grand total of

[1:36:08] 415 acres. We're also amending

[1:36:09] land use we are decreasing the

[1:36:10] overall residential units from

[1:36:15] 1000 units of 900 and we're

[1:36:16] increasing nonresidential

[1:36:18] square feet from 400,000

[1:36:21] square feet to 550,000 square

[1:36:22] feet. And this is for village

[1:36:25] e as a whole the 60 acre

[1:36:28] parcel. Its plan for mixed use

[1:36:28] development with multifamily

[1:36:33] and nonresidential uses. We

[1:36:36] are proposing a revision to

[1:36:38] section 9003.4 non-residential

[1:36:39] signage to be reviewed for

[1:36:41] compliance with chapter 5 of

[1:36:45] the uldc very similar to the

[1:36:46] previous amendment for

[1:36:48] non-residential parking they

[1:36:51] must comply with the uldc

[1:36:52] article time almost otherwise

[1:36:52] specified and the pattern plan

[1:36:56] or the pattern some additional

[1:36:59] minor amendments that we've

[1:37:00] included. Include the 60 acre

[1:37:05] former school parcel adding 21

[1:37:07] acres from the realignment

[1:37:08] clay morrow road and updating

[1:37:09] outdated language throughout

[1:37:10] the pattern plan based on

[1:37:13] current conditions. There are

[1:37:16] benefits this amendment,

[1:37:16] including simplifying staff

[1:37:19] review for science and parking

[1:37:20] standards provides additional

[1:37:23] nonresidential uses part and

[1:37:26] update outdated language with

[1:37:27] and the pattern plan that is

[1:37:27] no longer put the ball as many

[1:37:30] of the conditions have

[1:37:31] changed. But that we kindly

[1:37:32] request or we ask for your

[1:37:32] personal. Thank you. Thank

[1:37:47] you.

[1:37:55] >> I he could put on the

[1:37:56] screen please the morning

[1:37:57] again commissioners for the

[1:37:59] record sure we will let

[1:38:00] brandon planner 3 planning

[1:38:05] zoning division and I have

[1:38:07] been sworn. Is the village g

[1:38:08] village district pattern plan

[1:38:09] amendment and titian number

[1:38:19] can 24 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, 3

[1:38:20] on formally the pa dash 24

[1:38:25] dash 0, 8, the ordinance 20's,

[1:38:26] 2623 and why the difference in

[1:38:29] the numbers is this was

[1:38:31] submitted under our old now

[1:38:32] the line system under the old

[1:38:33] you know unified land

[1:38:37] development code in the

[1:38:37] comprehensive plan.

[1:38:38] >> so this was a transition

[1:38:39] record in this is the new

[1:38:39] record number in our solar

[1:38:46] it's to provide clarification.

[1:38:48] So the owner is the manasota

[1:38:53] key p it is located at the

[1:38:53] northeast corner of play more

[1:38:57] road in west villages parkway

[1:38:58] the property size is

[1:39:02] approximately 415 acres

[1:39:05] virtual village includes the

[1:39:06] 60 acre expansion area and the

[1:39:07] 21 acre planned more road

[1:39:12] alignment. The boundary

[1:39:13] expansion is to integrate

[1:39:14] those 60 acres that were

[1:39:18] formerly owned by the school

[1:39:19] property into the site and the

[1:39:22] 21 acre roadway was the play

[1:39:25] more realignment that approved

[1:39:26] by an infrastructure plan

[1:39:27] amendment for the alignment

[1:39:30] it's just putting it in here

[1:39:32] that way it showing on here

[1:39:33] where that alignment is so we

[1:39:33] have count for that additional

[1:39:38] acreage. Also there's some

[1:39:39] entitlement adjustments. It's

[1:39:40] been a modify land use

[1:39:41] entitlements and amends the

[1:39:44] uldc to reference the updated

[1:39:48] plan in as you heard at the

[1:39:48] previous item that we're going

[1:39:51] have the established standards

[1:39:53] for the dean compliance in the

[1:39:53] legal nonconforming status

[1:39:54] prior to the effective date of

[1:40:03] the since its annexation in

[1:40:05] 2026 years ago. This pattern

[1:40:05] plan has undergone the

[1:40:11] following regulations so. In

[1:40:13] 2019 ordinance 2019 25 and

[1:40:14] established the original

[1:40:16] village district pattern plan

[1:40:16] for e as you can see on the

[1:40:21] side of the screen. Here is

[1:40:23] the area up in the blue at the

[1:40:25] top it's the sarasota memorial

[1:40:26] hospital case that was brought

[1:40:27] before this commission to add

[1:40:33] to the boundary in 2024. The

[1:40:33] keystone below and you 5

[1:40:37] stands for mixed use area 5.

[1:40:41] This is where the school

[1:40:41] property was located so that

[1:40:48] is incorporated into that. So

[1:40:49] yes really it's not really

[1:40:50] adding an additional 81 acres

[1:40:53] from somewhere it's really

[1:40:56] just. Shifting everything that

[1:40:57] was the school property here

[1:40:58] so I just wanted to make sure

[1:41:01] that that was this was

[1:41:03] submitted MAY 10th 2024. So

[1:41:05] this is covered this amendment

[1:41:08] is governed by the 2022 uldc

[1:41:11] and the 2020 17 comprehensive

[1:41:13] plan. I just want stay here

[1:41:14] that there's voluntary

[1:41:16] compliance, the applicant for

[1:41:18] the 20, 24 unified land

[1:41:20] development code updates,

[1:41:20] which is likable to the

[1:41:23] signage in the parking

[1:41:26] regulations. So under the old

[1:41:28] code commissioner duval said

[1:41:30] with a new one there was a

[1:41:31] specific provisions in the old

[1:41:33] uldc to amend so we are

[1:41:37] following those standards. In

[1:41:44] addition, net increase of a

[1:41:47] 150,000 non residential spaces

[1:41:48] balance by 100 unit

[1:41:48] residential reduction. What

[1:41:52] does this mean the original

[1:41:54] village district pattern plan

[1:41:55] 800 title mets for up to

[1:41:59] 400,000 square feet of

[1:42:02] nonresidential and 1000

[1:42:02] dwelling units this will

[1:42:04] reduce the dwelling units to

[1:42:08] 900 and increase the

[1:42:11] non-residential component by

[1:42:12] 150,000 square feet. It's a

[1:42:14] it's a small increments to

[1:42:17] that because the was to go to

[1:42:21] that 18% non-residential for

[1:42:24] the city and I remember that

[1:42:25] one of the commissioners had

[1:42:26] asked for a previous item so

[1:42:29] we're at currently about 16%.

[1:42:35] In needing that 18% goal. In

[1:42:37] addition, we included that

[1:42:38] grandfather provision if you

[1:42:41] will just for a simple

[1:42:42] nomenclature for the team

[1:42:43] compliance that legally

[1:42:44] protect all current permitting

[1:42:49] or pending signage and some

[1:42:51] document cleanups is to do the

[1:42:53] updates to the village pattern

[1:42:55] plan to show this new parcel

[1:42:57] in the new configurations with

[1:42:59] all of the components the

[1:43:00] transportation et cetera in

[1:43:00] the pattern plan that goes

[1:43:07] into more detail. So the the

[1:43:07] future land use map

[1:43:12] designation is village that is

[1:43:14] adopted zoning map designation

[1:43:17] is village so all of the

[1:43:18] surrounding areas, there's

[1:43:20] vacant the play more districts

[1:43:23] where the cool today park it

[1:43:24] is the river road corridor to

[1:43:27] the east and then the state

[1:43:28] college. A florida just to

[1:43:33] give you a point of reference.

[1:43:34] In addition, this was a multi

[1:43:35] department review of the

[1:43:38] village a power plant. So

[1:43:41] there was no objection or no

[1:43:43] response now the only

[1:43:45] condition that they have its

[1:43:46] not applicable to this point

[1:43:48] it will be a clickable at the

[1:43:50] time of the actual site and

[1:43:51] development plans. And it was

[1:43:54] by our former stormwater

[1:43:55] engineer elizabeth wong when

[1:43:55] she was employed with the city

[1:43:59] at the time. She was very

[1:44:01] specific and she said this

[1:44:02] amendment is acceptable as

[1:44:05] long as the amount of revised

[1:44:07] impervious areas, judy does

[1:44:09] not exceed the maximum

[1:44:10] allowable amount in the

[1:44:12] previously approved storm

[1:44:14] water analysis so compliance

[1:44:16] with these conditions is

[1:44:18] required at the time the site

[1:44:20] development and infrastructure

[1:44:21] so at that time the site and

[1:44:23] development and infrastructure

[1:44:25] I just want to make it the

[1:44:27] public to kind of understand

[1:44:29] that will have to be reviewed

[1:44:31] any changes to that storm

[1:44:32] water to ensure that any

[1:44:34] impacts are directed at that

[1:44:35] time the scope of this

[1:44:36] amendment does not include any

[1:44:43] impacts to storm water.

[1:44:44] Consistency with a

[1:44:45] comprehensive plan future land

[1:44:47] use goal character and

[1:44:48] location of land uses and as

[1:44:52] well as the economic benefit,

[1:44:55] that's very important that is

[1:44:56] something staff reviews at at

[1:44:57] the time that the application

[1:45:01] as is when it's brought in.

[1:45:03] Growth in community access. So

[1:45:05] the tax roll integration so

[1:45:07] it's maximizing potential of

[1:45:10] the 60 acre parcel acquired

[1:45:11] from the school board in 2021

[1:45:13] when the school board owned

[1:45:16] this property its exact from

[1:45:18] any revenue generating they

[1:45:19] are exempt from that suncor

[1:45:20] parading this as a non

[1:45:22] residential mixed use that

[1:45:26] will generate additional.

[1:45:30] Revenue also you also expand

[1:45:32] community access to local

[1:45:33] professional services, it's my

[1:45:36] understanding they'll be some

[1:45:38] retail. Medical incorporated

[1:45:39] within component I don't have

[1:45:42] any specifics at this point.

[1:45:49] In addition it should help an

[1:45:51] environment to attract those

[1:45:51] industries within this little

[1:45:55] pod this area and

[1:45:57] infrastructure optimization I

[1:45:58] do want to make this is a key

[1:46:00] component because staff always

[1:46:01] evaluate what is going to be

[1:46:02] the impact to our

[1:46:04] infrastructure water

[1:46:06] wastewater cetera so is

[1:46:09] utilizing the existing

[1:46:11] infrastructure capacity is not

[1:46:11] required city financing for

[1:46:11] utility room any drainage

[1:46:20] expansions. Future land use

[1:46:24] goal one the character of has

[1:46:27] touching upon the project a

[1:46:28] school in economic impact so

[1:46:30] the revenue is going to

[1:46:32] increase from what the current

[1:46:33] property tax revenue is based

[1:46:36] on looking at county tax was

[1:46:37] about when approximately

[1:46:43] 26,366. To potentially

[1:46:52] $62,150. 135.7% yield. I also

[1:46:53] included my sources and I cite

[1:46:56] my sources where gotten this

[1:46:59] information so the job

[1:47:01] creation based on the numbers

[1:47:03] that I have it it should

[1:47:05] generate a sustainable

[1:47:07] workforce capacity estimated

[1:47:10] at one job 300 to 500 square

[1:47:11] feet now it's going to be

[1:47:12] based on what that specific

[1:47:14] use and I don't know the

[1:47:14] specific use is at this time

[1:47:18] this is very conservative in

[1:47:20] nature I wanted to do with the

[1:47:20] lower level just so we know

[1:47:25] with the comparison. Where we

[1:47:31] it should add about 16 point.

[1:47:32] 5 million in residential value

[1:47:34] to fund public safety and

[1:47:34] infrastructure no added tax

[1:47:40] burden residents. Entitlement

[1:47:40] rebalancing reduces

[1:47:41] residential title from a 1000

[1:47:45] to 900 units to minimize

[1:47:45] long-term demand on municipal

[1:47:49] residential services. So the

[1:47:52] sources are also in very great

[1:47:54] detail. I included within the

[1:47:56] staff report with the sources

[1:47:58] are so we had I looked at the

[1:48:01] job projections calculated on

[1:48:02] standard employment density

[1:48:03] benchmarks recognized by the

[1:48:06] urban land institute in the

[1:48:09] U.S. Energy information

[1:48:10] administration to us to make

[1:48:13] the capacity based on

[1:48:15] anticipated uses. So if we had

[1:48:16] professional office of

[1:48:17] approximately one job for 300

[1:48:21] square feet medical

[1:48:22] institution. Well, it is about

[1:48:25] one per 350 square feet and

[1:48:27] retail is approximately one

[1:48:28] percent about per 500 square

[1:48:33] feet just to give you an idea.

[1:48:34] For the sarasota county

[1:48:36] property appraiser's

[1:48:38] methodologies the 2026

[1:48:40] estimated square footage

[1:48:42] evaluation for 150,000 square

[1:48:43] foot nonresidential bill out

[1:48:45] was determined by a comparable

[1:48:48] building value of

[1:48:50] 16 million 500 pounds was

[1:48:50] alting ineffective cost of a

[1:48:54] 110,000 per square feet. So

[1:48:56] where did that come from it

[1:48:57] was that estimated of a 110

[1:49:01] per square multiply it by the

[1:49:02] 150,000 and it comes up with

[1:49:07] that 6 million 500,000. So

[1:49:09] here's here's the table with

[1:49:11] the land use status, currently

[1:49:12] vacant and this is roughly

[1:49:14] this is based on our adopted

[1:49:16] millage rate and this is the

[1:49:20] approximate taxable annual

[1:49:21] revenue propose next used

[1:49:24] again at the 16 million 500

[1:49:26] attack today. It would be that

[1:49:27] about so the net fiscal gain

[1:49:30] is you're showing that it is.

[1:49:33] Now this is the taxable value

[1:49:34] and 9 million 500 thousand is

[1:49:37] not saying we're getting 900

[1:49:38] 9 million 500 thousand

[1:49:39] revenue. It's the taxable

[1:49:40] value very important to

[1:49:43] distinguish between the 2.

[1:49:47] Which would have a plus a

[1:49:48] 35,784, so there is an

[1:49:49] economic benefit to this

[1:49:52] amendment. Which is in

[1:49:55] compliance with the

[1:49:58] comprehensive plan. Economic

[1:50:00] of diversification it aligns

[1:50:01] with our the city's mandate to

[1:50:04] actively increase diversify

[1:50:07] and expand municipal economic

[1:50:09] tax base. And our progress as

[1:50:11] I stated previously it's

[1:50:11] towards the 18% that is

[1:50:14] required for that component

[1:50:15] that was in the comprehensive

[1:50:20] plan so the commercial

[1:50:22] baseline is secures that 50

[1:50:23] acre expansion under the mixed

[1:50:28] so it's a new mixed use 5 and

[1:50:29] you 5. And again this was

[1:50:30] about projections in the

[1:50:31] revenues as I previously

[1:50:36] stated. So with this

[1:50:38] amendment, they're also asking

[1:50:43] for to comply or adopt signage

[1:50:46] standards for all signage judy

[1:50:46] was just for a law signed is

[1:50:50] this is all signage that will

[1:50:51] have compliance they will

[1:50:52] defer to chapter 5 the unified

[1:50:55] land development code. It

[1:50:58] applies that content neutral

[1:50:59] measurable time space and man

[1:51:02] are limits to mitigate visual

[1:51:02] clutter also grants the

[1:51:05] compliance as I stated

[1:51:07] previously this is to prevent

[1:51:08] any unexpected business costs

[1:51:09] to any of those owners for

[1:51:14] signage. Policy 5.1 parking

[1:51:15] and traffic flow this refers

[1:51:16] to the unified land

[1:51:20] development code chapter 4

[1:51:22] article 10 to guarantee safe.

[1:51:23] Convenient on site traffic

[1:51:24] flow parking capacity because

[1:51:24] it will need our parking

[1:51:30] standards. Uses the parking

[1:51:32] standard metrics and also to

[1:51:33] minimize large asphalt front

[1:51:35] footprints because our our

[1:51:39] standards little more

[1:51:41] stringent also. Free of this

[1:51:42] parcel states for higher

[1:51:43] intensity development in

[1:51:50] public. Open spaces. Also want

[1:51:53] jump on the at the roadways

[1:51:54] levels service one component

[1:51:54] of the comprehensive plan is

[1:51:58] those levels services. They do

[1:52:00] a traffic impact part of that

[1:52:00] is included with the

[1:52:02] commission back in it. It was

[1:52:05] done SEPTEMBER 2025. It was

[1:52:09] evaluated that it would not it

[1:52:11] would fit within the existing

[1:52:12] network capacity maintaining

[1:52:16] those adopted local services,

[1:52:17] even though that there are

[1:52:19] daily trips are projected to

[1:52:24] increase by 4,329 trips. It

[1:52:26] does fall within their

[1:52:30] acceptable levels to 2030

[1:52:32] based on that traffic impact

[1:52:32] statement which has been

[1:52:35] reviewed and evaluated like to

[1:52:37] add by our public rindge

[1:52:38] transportation engineer as

[1:52:42] well from the let it take. So

[1:52:44] there's going to be 0 offsite

[1:52:48] improvements and also to know

[1:52:51] that maintenance of the

[1:52:52] roadways falls under wellen

[1:52:53] park the city does not

[1:52:55] maintain those roadways at all

[1:52:56] that falls under long park it

[1:53:00] is their responsibility. Legal

[1:53:03] review and business impact a

[1:53:04] student's so we're ordinance

[1:53:06] 2023 has been reviewed and

[1:53:07] approved by the city attorney

[1:53:10] and is legally a cracked as to

[1:53:13] form. In addition pursuant to

[1:53:16] florida statute section 1, 6,

[1:53:17] 6.0 4, 1, foresee a business

[1:53:20] impact statement was not

[1:53:20] required because this

[1:53:21] ordinance is an active to

[1:53:22] implement comprehensive plan

[1:53:25] amendments and land

[1:53:25] development regulations and

[1:53:28] then is initiated by an

[1:53:29] applicant application by a

[1:53:30] private party other

[1:53:35] municipality. So this was a

[1:53:37] privately not city did not the

[1:53:37] city did not address this or

[1:53:40] done to do it just to kind of

[1:53:41] give you notice of happened

[1:53:44] they did hold a public

[1:53:47] workshop. Those workshop

[1:53:48] materials, outcome, the

[1:53:49] questions that is in your

[1:53:53] package in great detail. It

[1:53:54] discussed the expansion and

[1:53:59] the entitlement adjustments.

[1:54:01] JUNE 30th, 2026 those notices

[1:54:03] were mailed to the owner and

[1:54:05] property owners within 1320

[1:54:06] feet and newspaper

[1:54:09] advertisements were published.

[1:54:10] The planning and zoning

[1:54:14] advisory board on JULY 1620 26

[1:54:16] hold a meeting voted 5 to 0

[1:54:16] unanimous to approve the

[1:54:20] changes to the amendments. The

[1:54:21] next step this is where we are

[1:54:24] here today for commission for

[1:54:25] first reading with a proposed

[1:54:28] adoption hearing for SEPTEMBER

[1:54:31] 22nd. Staff is asking that the

[1:54:34] commission would approve this

[1:54:35] ordinance and accompanying

[1:54:35] amendments to the village even

[1:54:39] district pattern plan for the

[1:54:40] upcoming a city commission

[1:54:43] meeting for second reading and

[1:54:45] staff is here to answer any

[1:54:45] questions and I thank you for

[1:54:50] your time. And q. Rebuttal

[1:55:00] applicant.

[1:55:01] >> it you can offer a rebuttal

[1:55:05] religious point of sure you

[1:55:07] give a detailed presentation

[1:55:11] questions that MAY arise in

[1:55:11] your minds. She MAY come about

[1:55:16] city last month just want to

[1:55:16] remind everyone. The city has

[1:55:17] not invested one any

[1:55:19] improvement in lawn park

[1:55:22] that's privately funded or in

[1:55:23] some cases we do run things

[1:55:24] through the motions of

[1:55:26] permanently. Water plant built

[1:55:29] I ballpark wastewater plant

[1:55:32] built by wall park. Water

[1:55:33] plant expansion which we're

[1:55:37] starting to design bill by

[1:55:37] wang park. All the roadways

[1:55:40] bill long parking wb I d. So I

[1:55:41] just want to clarify that

[1:55:42] because I know it's tough.

[1:55:47] Just

[1:55:48] to say. Yeah the city's

[1:55:50] invested funds to him. To

[1:55:50] level of service for the

[1:55:56] roadway. Yes, there's

[1:55:57] increased trips with this plan

[1:56:01] over the prior plan. However

[1:56:02] what we could not do in the

[1:56:04] updated traffic impact

[1:56:08] statement with the show

[1:56:08] significant reduction in dense

[1:56:10] cities in the 2 joining bill

[1:56:15] half collectively the

[1:56:16] reductions are in excess of a

[1:56:17] 1000 homes in those 2 so

[1:56:18] really there's net reduction

[1:56:24] in. And level service actually

[1:56:25] goes up. But because we're

[1:56:28] only talking about village 8.

[1:56:29] We could only show what was

[1:56:32] happening village e not

[1:56:33] collectively we do it. The

[1:56:35] west hills improvement

[1:56:36] district. We literally update

[1:56:37] our traffic models for full

[1:56:41] build out till at full build

[1:56:45] so we have a good feeling.

[1:56:45] Twice a year where we're

[1:56:48] heading with improvements be

[1:56:48] needed because we've got a

[1:56:50] look long-term which roads to

[1:56:52] be we know what fills the

[1:56:53] parkway which has some

[1:56:56] frontage on the parcel all to

[1:56:59] 41 someday will be for life.

[1:57:01] Probably the trigger will be

[1:57:01] some age when they come in

[1:57:04] because they will inject so

[1:57:05] significantly more traffic in

[1:57:09] that area. Again something we

[1:57:12] monitor but just want to

[1:57:12] clarify overall traffic is

[1:57:16] heading not up. And last but

[1:57:17] not least we show a reduction

[1:57:20] in whole on residential

[1:57:24] density down from the 1900.

[1:57:26] Part of that 900 located up to

[1:57:29] a 150 units for track h e

[1:57:34] which was played off. Along

[1:57:35] river road. We have entered

[1:57:36] into contracts for commercial

[1:57:38] use and that partial that

[1:57:39] purchase of during the due

[1:57:43] diligence and that part off.

[1:57:43] Actually typed completing

[1:57:46] playmore rolled across. Gci is

[1:57:47] property which I think

[1:57:52] saturday. Yes that could be 7

[1:57:53] or 8 so that will be happening

[1:57:57] here in the next 6 to 9

[1:57:58] months. So what we did is we

[1:58:00] MAY have some reduction

[1:58:01] residential. What we did we

[1:58:05] built in 150,000 square feet

[1:58:06] of commercial for chance to

[1:58:10] put that there. So things are

[1:58:12] changing from when we started

[1:58:13] this back a couple years ago,

[1:58:14] but now we know we're going to

[1:58:16] be able to have a commercial

[1:58:20] use out there and play more in

[1:58:21] river road. Just more and the

[1:58:22] detail to what sure product.

[1:58:30] Thank thank you sir.

[1:58:31] >> yes sir I do have a

[1:58:36] rebuttal to the okay so I just

[1:58:39] wanted to make it very clear

[1:58:41] when I evaluated this

[1:58:41] petition, it's based on what

[1:58:45] is existing at the time. And

[1:58:46] the statement that I need is

[1:58:47] based on that transferred

[1:58:50] haitian impact statement. So

[1:58:51] at this point in time based on

[1:58:55] information for this approval.

[1:58:57] There are no impacts to that

[1:58:58] infrastructure. There's no

[1:59:00] requirement for lift stations,

[1:59:02] cetera. So at this point in

[1:59:03] time there are no impacts i

[1:59:04] just want to make that clear

[1:59:08] on the record.

[1:59:09] >> and that is the real battle

[1:59:11] to my rebuttal. Thank you for

[1:59:14] your will not republican you

[1:59:21] don't certainly public that.

[1:59:24] >> all commission questions.

[1:59:29] But thank you mayor.

[1:59:31] >> first thank you MISTER Lose

[1:59:33] case for your eye for the

[1:59:33] record I was going ask you to

[1:59:39] clarify exactly how

[1:59:40] infrastructure expansions are

[1:59:43] funded without and wellen park

[1:59:46] and yes this been

[1:59:47] misunderstanding across the

[1:59:48] city of north port are

[1:59:50] taxpayers on how that's done

[1:59:51] so thank you very much for

[1:59:57] that. Also comment that I'm

[2:00:00] frankly delighted with the

[2:00:00] adjustments in this plan it's

[2:00:03] long been recognized by city

[2:00:04] that we need to bring more

[2:00:05] jobs to the city of north port

[2:00:09] and that we need to expand our

[2:00:12] commercial footprint in order

[2:00:12] to relieve some of the tax

[2:00:13] burden on our homeowner

[2:00:19] taxpayers. So. For those 2

[2:00:20] reasons I hardly supportive of

[2:00:20] these changes.

[2:00:25] Developed next.

[2:00:29] >> commissioner you all. First

[2:00:43] of all. I heard the name wall.

[2:00:43] >> he's no longer here are

[2:00:44] credit is still.

[2:00:47] >> being seen.

[2:00:48] >> think that shows quality of

[2:00:52] floyd. That she was for the

[2:00:57] city that she missed. Anyone

[2:01:04] who's been around city for a

[2:01:04] you I've been here for 18

[2:01:11] years. You although she was.

[2:01:14] What MISTER Was it's first

[2:01:17] mentioned above. The ballpark.

[2:01:22] And school. You see where and

[2:01:24] it's beautiful facility.

[2:01:29] School there. And this is the

[2:01:31] well, you I think about who

[2:01:32] you still a lot of that across

[2:01:35] ballpark. Well for

[2:01:37] millennials. That was a great

[2:01:46] change. As MISTER Was stated.

[2:01:46] Well apart that property back

[2:01:49] school is for. Been

[2:01:55] repurposed. All of these the

[2:02:01] family was up to me. Still

[2:02:10] trees. But that's not you know

[2:02:12] people are moving to florida.

[2:02:14] People are going to florida.

[2:02:18] Just from my experience with

[2:02:20] the well apart. They get on

[2:02:25] the and I think this is

[2:02:26] example of making proper

[2:02:32] adjustments. Thanks for

[2:02:32] commissioner petro.

[2:02:38] >> have a couple things. So

[2:02:39] this ordinance intends change

[2:02:40] and opponents entitlements and

[2:02:42] reduce residential increasing

[2:02:48] commercial whatever the number

[2:02:48] but increasing the commercial

[2:02:56] by 150 square feet. And on the

[2:02:56] one total area of the square

[2:03:03] footage or acreage. As far as

[2:03:05] we're reducing biden said or

[2:03:07] we still have some leftovers

[2:03:10] from designation okay so the

[2:03:11] 60 acre parcel that we're

[2:03:12] adding in from the school

[2:03:16] board property in hand.

[2:03:17] >> they're proposing to

[2:03:18] increase the non-residential

[2:03:22] by a 150,000 square feet in

[2:03:22] that area. So under the

[2:03:26] current village district

[2:03:27] pattern plan their allocation

[2:03:30] for square feet 400,000 so

[2:03:31] this will increase the total

[2:03:36] to 550,000 square feet. And in

[2:03:41] addition to reducing

[2:03:41] residential component from a

[2:03:43] residential units I'd be all

[2:03:45] cross.

[2:03:49] >> village e to the 900.

[2:03:52] >> they have to be resold for

[2:03:52] ordinance covers a new test

[2:03:55] when concept, whatever you

[2:04:01] call as opposed to plan.

[2:04:03] >> do we have rezoning from

[2:04:05] shifting from bench, you know

[2:04:07] rezoning know it's it's all so

[2:04:11] that the village no rezoning

[2:04:11] no change.

[2:04:12] >> and just understand it's

[2:04:14] not it's it's incorporating

[2:04:17] the 60 acres village with

[2:04:19] those 60 acres were part of

[2:04:20] the wellen park which is

[2:04:21] putting it in here for ability

[2:04:24] to add that non-residential

[2:04:28] square feet.

[2:04:29] >> have another question for

[2:04:33] MISTER Of those in and this

[2:04:36] for a so.

[2:04:44] How does the infrastructure

[2:04:44] expansion.

[2:04:45] It's funded news said it

[2:04:46] clearly that is funded by the

[2:04:48] developer. But the city

[2:04:53] reverses the developer.

[2:04:53] Through the impact fees and

[2:04:58] how much is dollars per you

[2:04:59] could do a racial it's $0.50

[2:05:04] per and the dollar. And it was

[2:05:06] specifically did refer stuff

[2:05:07] like station wastewater

[2:05:07] whatever all those

[2:05:10] infrastructure. Components you

[2:05:12] do get reimbursed. And my

[2:05:16] question is how much who

[2:05:17] >> I can't give the exit

[2:05:20] dollar values like getting

[2:05:21] done calls. And traffic as you

[2:05:22] know the of that these must be

[2:05:27] spent in that year. So my

[2:05:27] nexus they need to come into

[2:05:34] the park area. Dollars we've

[2:05:35] spent as APRIL this year

[2:05:41] 160 million dollars. On roads.

[2:05:46] Just the not any subdivision.

[2:05:47] I believe that JUNE first of

[2:05:48] this year, the city is

[2:05:50] reimbursed this through impact

[2:05:55] fees. 16 million dollars. So

[2:05:57] we received about $0.10. On

[2:06:01] every dollar we've spent.

[2:06:01] Great deal.

[2:06:06] >> but it's spending right.

[2:06:07] >> all receipts only waivers

[2:06:09] have been reviewed by we've

[2:06:10] been provided to the city in

[2:06:13] been review. Lift stations

[2:06:20] reimbursement 0. We we do get

[2:06:22] you know she payments which a

[2:06:24] cap on for the repayment all

[2:06:26] don't mean the wastewater

[2:06:26] treatment plant and same goes

[2:06:30] for water plant. One with

[2:06:31] wastewater treatment plant was

[2:06:35] repaid in that money is coming

[2:06:36] in sitting in a for the

[2:06:39] planned expansion between

[2:06:40] expanding the wastewater plant

[2:06:42] from 2 million gallons. A day

[2:06:44] to 4 million young today. Plus

[2:06:48] the contemplated law to bring

[2:06:51] additional reclaim from the

[2:06:55] pen america up 1.2 well in

[2:06:57] part to address the city's

[2:06:58] 18 million dollars issue of

[2:07:03] ionizing. Those 2 combined

[2:07:05] dissipate be about 40 million

[2:07:07] dollars and will be ultimately

[2:07:10] repaid. Hopefully you know

[2:07:11] she's hopefully we'll have

[2:07:13] enough year she has pay that.

[2:07:18] I so that again. Fully paid

[2:07:20] remember when we when I say

[2:07:23] were paid. We the money. You

[2:07:25] don't charge of any interest.

[2:07:30] It's 0 interest law. Just like

[2:07:31] we do with the fire station

[2:07:32] police substation public

[2:07:36] safety building all you know,

[2:07:37] that's pretty good federal

[2:07:37] government and you can get a

[2:07:48] deal you know the part list.

[2:07:49] The part due to heat all the

[2:07:51] questions yeah well, one thing

[2:07:52] that as for more clarification

[2:07:55] as far as that.

[2:07:58] >> you've been reimbursed but

[2:08:00] there's a pending

[2:08:01] reimbursements as well so

[2:08:06] there's need for what. When

[2:08:08] news that I think is set to

[2:08:09] lift stations. I forget

[2:08:09] station never been any

[2:08:13] reimbursements on any

[2:08:14] legislation.

[2:08:15] >> pending because annually

[2:08:19] the city reimburses for wrote

[2:08:20] for impact fees collected in

[2:08:22] the prior 12 months. So

[2:08:23] generally I will some of the

[2:08:26] bill. Basically shows what we

[2:08:30] spend here today. I send it to

[2:08:31] the city generally on APRIL

[2:08:37] 1st. Generally by JUNE 1st we

[2:08:37] get reimbursed. So if the city

[2:08:41] collects. 5 million dollars.

[2:08:44] There's a caution. I think

[2:08:47] right now we're at 80%. The

[2:08:50] city had 5 million in coffers

[2:08:54] to reimburse us that year.

[2:08:57] They would submit send us that

[2:08:57] 4 million dollars keep a

[2:08:58] million dollars for use of

[2:09:01] roadways also in the city.

[2:09:03] Follows the road we

[2:09:04] reimbursement agreement we

[2:09:09] entered into MARCH in 2020.

[2:09:10] >> so this is one 60 million

[2:09:10] for the roles 160 million

[2:09:14] which

[2:09:15] >> does the plasma number was

[2:09:16] invested as of APRIL one of

[2:09:16] this year.

[2:09:20] We believe that full build out

[2:09:20] will be close to

[2:09:24] 200 million. Does not include

[2:09:26] our investments we've made and

[2:09:27] river road just to remind

[2:09:33] everybody to date we're public

[2:09:34] or private invest any money in

[2:09:39] south river road. County, some

[2:09:39] 0.3 million dollars for you

[2:09:40] design and permitting of that

[2:09:43] role.

[2:09:44] >> once the built out for you

[2:09:48] said 200 million. How much

[2:09:52] this project and your

[2:09:53] destination to be collected

[2:09:55] from the for 3 event when he

[2:09:58] will be

[2:09:59] >> if we get $0.40 on the

[2:10:04] dollar expense. I mean roughly

[2:10:07] 11,000 homes in. And we

[2:10:12] receive 16 million dollars.

[2:10:16] Granted you becomes one 67

[2:10:16] benderson commercial couple

[2:10:19] hospitals coming those are. I.

[2:10:23] Years of traffic into

[2:10:24] hopefully you know we're going

[2:10:27] see a big jump in that number.

[2:10:28] Don't think we have get more

[2:10:33] than 30 to 40%. Thank you.

[2:10:45] >> closing arguments staff.

[2:10:46] >> thank you commissioners as

[2:10:47] previously staff asking that

[2:10:52] the commission would approve

[2:10:53] the ordinance to continue

[2:10:56] second reading based on the

[2:10:57] information and the facts

[2:10:57] presented before thank thank

[2:11:05] you.

[2:11:09] >> request approval of rvp

[2:11:09] think.

[2:11:10] >> thank close public areas

[2:11:14] request a motion.

[2:11:16] >> to continue ordinance 2026

[2:11:21] 23 2nd reading amber 22nd 2026

[2:11:22] motion made to continue

[2:11:25] ordinance number 2026 3 the

[2:11:29] second SEPTEMBER 22nd, 2026

[2:11:30] commissioner seconded by vice

[2:11:31] mayor there's nothing to that

[2:11:34] please

[2:11:41] >> passes 5 to 0. And it's

[2:11:43] almost 12 will come back from

[2:11:48] little bit really yeah it

[2:11:48] actually does and we've got

[2:11:51] such a variety of a piece of

[2:11:52] equipment.

[2:11:52] >> you know and different

[2:11:53] fixes different buckets it all

[2:11:54] requires you know different

[2:11:57] links with trailers the same

[2:12:02] way right it's a it's it's

[2:12:02] great.

[2:12:03] >> yeah, we did a great job

[2:12:04] and we appreciate it, thanks

[2:12:04] for everything very much yeah.

[2:12:05] Here not going to appreciate

[2:12:06] thank you.

[2:12:08] >> last that

[2:12:09] >> was meant. The vehicle we

[2:12:10] were working on the one used

[2:12:11] by the city manager's office

[2:12:14] happy to be do for service.

[2:12:14] >> perfect timing every

[2:12:17] vehicle comes in the shop

[2:12:22] doesn't matter if it's a

[2:12:23] police fire. Office personnel

[2:12:23] anything we inspection on the

[2:12:27] vehicle ok matter what it is.

[2:12:28] Well will start from the back

[2:12:28] and usually work our way to

[2:12:31] the front checking all shock

[2:12:34] suspensions. Springs of they

[2:12:35] axles breaks whatever it that

[2:12:40] we coming counter that we

[2:12:41] normal wear and I it just

[2:12:42] because the vehicle's new

[2:12:45] doesn't mean it's it's good

[2:12:46] lot of times we see some of

[2:12:48] the newer vehicles have parts

[2:12:50] that fail so we make sure we

[2:12:51] check everything pretty

[2:12:52] thoroughly and stuff like

[2:12:53] tires are a big part of it and

[2:12:53] they tell you more than you

[2:12:56] think.

[2:12:57] >> anything below 3.30 seconds

[2:13:00] is automatic replacement. And

[2:13:02] then we check the difference

[2:13:03] between a from the rare case

[2:13:04] of tires have to be rotated

[2:13:04] we've got a little tired gauge

[2:13:06] that we usually.

[2:13:06] >> you know pull out we stick

[2:13:09] right in the senate heard.

[2:13:14] It's up to 1130 seconds.

[2:13:16] Checked the outside to cause a

[2:13:17] tire will tell you yeah a lot

[2:13:20] of very if information on how

[2:13:21] vehicles where have suspension

[2:13:25] issued warning. Possible part

[2:13:29] replacement the world.

[2:13:30] >> the term that heard of

[2:13:31] would have had to pay the bill

[2:13:34] but not exactly exactly seeing

[2:13:35] them and rely every vehicle is

[2:13:43] a little different every time

[2:13:48] >> I 45 and we're

[2:13:49] >> quick on that think you

[2:13:52] very much because I have to

[2:13:53] tell you like always so

[2:13:57] conversation about west

[2:13:57] villages and how you know

[2:14:01] whether or not north port

[2:14:02] taxpayers help toughened up

[2:14:02] there so appreciate you some

[2:14:06] clarity to a it all out. You

[2:14:06] know MISTER Lipinski explain

[2:14:08] that and you know that does

[2:14:16] help because sir. You know I'm

[2:14:18] but we come into report

[2:14:18] taxpayers pockets so

[2:14:19] appreciated.

[2:14:27] >> 2 ordinance 2026 24. I

[2:14:27] request a motion to direct the

[2:14:28] city clerk to read by title

[2:14:32] only second. And the motion

[2:14:34] made by commissioner stokes

[2:14:35] seconded by vice city

[2:14:36] clerk read by title only

[2:14:42] nothing to that please vote.

[2:14:46] And passes 5, 0 city clerk.

[2:14:48] >> ordinance number 2026 24

[2:14:49] and ordinance of the city

[2:14:50] in north port florida

[2:14:51] repealing chapter 4 article 10

[2:14:53] of the code of the city

[2:14:55] of north port florida their

[2:14:56] buddy standing the historic

[2:14:56] cultural advisory board

[2:14:58] providing for findings

[2:14:58] providing for complex

[2:14:59] providing for severability

[2:15:00] providing for codification and

[2:15:05] providing an effective date.

[2:15:07] >> already and this is your

[2:15:11] right this on JULY 21st 2026

[2:15:12] discuss this board and their

[2:15:13] lack membership at that time

[2:15:14] had one member left remaining

[2:15:17] on the board and.

[2:15:18] >> commission directed me to

[2:15:18] draft an ordinance to standing

[2:15:22] that

[2:15:23] >> commission questions

[2:15:27] discussion. Youve got public

[2:15:37] comment.

[2:15:38] >> I'm so sad that this is on

[2:15:40] the agenda again. This the

[2:15:46] board. You know this. Almost a

[2:15:51] year and a half.

[2:15:53] >> I've been sending the board

[2:15:53] information on really we need

[2:15:54] take a look at these advisory

[2:15:55] boards. While the remaining

[2:16:00] empty. How can we get people

[2:16:01] on them and interested in

[2:16:07] serving. That was supposed to

[2:16:07] be an agenda item last year I

[2:16:08] think we're still working on

[2:16:11] it. But it definitely needs be

[2:16:15] a workshop. To everybody look

[2:16:15] at how we can people involved

[2:16:18] in advisory boards. Maybe we

[2:16:21] need to combine some advisory

[2:16:22] boards. I think we need to

[2:16:24] look at the criteria for some

[2:16:27] of these advisory boards. I

[2:16:30] mean this is an important

[2:16:31] advisory board but because of

[2:16:32] the lack of participation and

[2:16:38] quorum issues. We have to.

[2:16:38] Repeal it but do we really

[2:16:39] have to repeal it coming not

[2:16:43] just temporarily suspend it.

[2:16:44] While we MAY be scheduled

[2:16:45] workshop to really go over

[2:16:46] these advisory boards and see

[2:16:51] what we can do. Influence more

[2:16:51] more participation on these

[2:16:57] boards. And then also the

[2:16:59] memos and the recommendations

[2:17:00] that I had given to the

[2:17:00] commission last year to take a

[2:17:05] look at it again. And see what

[2:17:07] we can really because it's

[2:17:07] important these advisory

[2:17:10] boards are important. We need

[2:17:12] to citizen input on these

[2:17:13] boards and then their voices

[2:17:14] need to really be taken

[2:17:18] seriously. Recommendations and

[2:17:21] memos that are given to the

[2:17:24] commission. So instead of just

[2:17:24] repealing it and getting rid

[2:17:25] of this again can we just

[2:17:26] temporarily suspended until we

[2:17:30] can really figure out. All the

[2:17:32] different aspects of these

[2:17:33] advisory boards and why we

[2:17:34] have such low participation in

[2:17:35] vacancies available all the

[2:17:38] time. That would be my

[2:17:39] recommendation to this court

[2:17:42] please reconsider. Temporarily

[2:17:50] suspending have a workshop.

[2:17:52] >> phillips, I'm writing to

[2:17:53] express my strong opposition

[2:17:56] to the proposal to disband the

[2:17:57] historic cultural advisory

[2:17:58] board dismantling this fido

[2:17:59] and steve community's ability

[2:18:02] to protect conserve and raise

[2:18:03] public awareness of the

[2:18:03] priceless historic and

[2:18:06] cultural resources that define

[2:18:08] our identity. Report serves as

[2:18:09] indispensable asset to our

[2:18:10] local government bridges, the

[2:18:12] gap between official policy

[2:18:13] makers in the community

[2:18:14] ensuring that for the modern

[2:18:15] development do not come at the

[2:18:17] expense of our heritage but

[2:18:18] that the dedicated expert

[2:18:20] recommendations of this board

[2:18:22] reversed permanently losing

[2:18:23] the unique cultural landscapes

[2:18:24] historical structures public

[2:18:25] art installations that make

[2:18:27] our community a place to live

[2:18:28] and visit rather than to

[2:18:28] stopping the border to

[2:18:31] temporary hurdle such as

[2:18:32] membership fluctuations

[2:18:33] community engagement our

[2:18:35] leadership should actively

[2:18:37] investing revitalizing urge

[2:18:39] you to reject any measures to

[2:18:40] dissolve this advisory group

[2:18:40] and said launch targeted

[2:18:43] efforts to recruit passionate

[2:18:44] community volunteers and

[2:18:44] restore the board to

[2:18:45] full-capacity thank you for

[2:18:48] your time leadership and

[2:18:49] commitment to preserving the

[2:18:50] historic integrity of our

[2:18:51] community. I strongly urge you

[2:18:52] to vote against the disbanding

[2:18:52] of the historic and cultural

[2:18:58] advisory. And that's all.

[2:19:04] >> go ahead.

[2:19:05] >> the city to temporarily

[2:19:08] suspend story. And cultural

[2:19:09] advisory board until further

[2:19:16] notice.

[2:19:25] >> second for refresh my

[2:19:27] memory clair we suspended this

[2:19:28] board once already could you

[2:19:32] go through

[2:19:34] >> we did suspended for a year

[2:19:35] because at that time it was

[2:19:37] down to one member and we held

[2:19:40] meeting with

[2:19:43] >> commission and members of

[2:19:46] the community such like them.

[2:19:56] I. Stark wrister I'm joe and I

[2:19:57] think there's like 3 people

[2:20:00] who came out for it we decided

[2:20:01] they said they will be able to

[2:20:05] find people to join them find

[2:20:06] people to join the border over

[2:20:08] time it has slowly climbed all

[2:20:10] the way I will say the same

[2:20:12] things that the board

[2:20:14] discussed what we brought to

[2:20:14] for the time from since I

[2:20:17] think it was 2024 till now.

[2:20:19] >> the things that they

[2:20:20] discussed are the same things

[2:20:21] that board was discussing

[2:20:23] since 2019 when I first got

[2:20:25] here and it was just the same

[2:20:27] 3 things the historic

[2:20:32] designations for tipton team

[2:20:35] area. So something or other

[2:20:37] and so those are only things

[2:20:38] that were recommended to

[2:20:39] commission those times were to

[2:20:40] keep those in talking with

[2:20:41] development services I don't

[2:20:43] know the details you have to

[2:20:44] ask them. But there are so

[2:20:47] many things cannot do that

[2:20:48] they wanted to do by making

[2:20:51] these historic designations

[2:20:52] against state statute or our

[2:20:55] code I'm not sure which one

[2:20:56] mistry stated that think they

[2:20:58] could not do certain things

[2:20:59] that they wanted do in the

[2:20:59] mayor they wanted to do and

[2:21:01] the board just window down to

[2:21:04] one member was harry camera

[2:21:10] and overall summary want to

[2:21:24] thank prevail. There's nothing

[2:21:30] >> and that fails 3 to I'll be

[2:21:37] looking for another motion.

[2:21:37] It.

[2:21:38] >> I moved to continue

[2:21:39] ordinance number 2026 24 2nd

[2:21:40] reading of SEPTEMBER 22nd

[2:21:44] 2026.

[2:21:48] >> motion on the floor by

[2:21:48] commissioner stokes to to

[2:21:49] continue ordinance number 2026

[2:21:51] to 24 the second reading on

[2:21:54] SEPTEMBER 22nd, 2026. There's

[2:22:06] nothing to that please and

[2:22:08] that passes for one

[2:22:08] commissioner petrova something

[2:22:09] you like to comment on your

[2:22:11] dissension.

[2:22:11] >> I just you know we can

[2:22:14] continue. Suspended until

[2:22:22] further notice.

[2:22:27] >> moving 2226 dash 29 I need

[2:22:28] motion to direct the city

[2:22:31] clerk to read by title only

[2:22:33] that motion on the floor

[2:22:34] commissioners seconded by vice

[2:22:43] mayor to that please vote.

[2:22:45] >> passes 5, 0 city ordinance

[2:22:47] number 2026 dash 29 an

[2:22:49] ordinance of the city of north

[2:22:50] port florida amending the

[2:22:51] non-district budget for fiscal

[2:22:54] year 2025 to 2026 for

[2:22:56] increased revenue and

[2:22:57] reimbursement and about

[2:22:57] $200,000 providing for

[2:22:59] findings providing for posting

[2:22:59] providing for complex

[2:23:00] providing for severability and

[2:23:02] providing an affected date.

[2:23:03] >> same and your this is your

[2:23:10] item. Thank to department of

[2:23:10] the question increase of

[2:23:14] $200,000 to the fired back

[2:23:16] fun. But it is to reflect it

[2:23:18] sets up a additional get that

[2:23:21] the sufficient budget for the

[2:23:22] corresponding developer

[2:23:23] reverse that payment required

[2:23:24] the west village's politics

[2:23:28] station developer remit based

[2:23:29] on actual effect revenues

[2:23:33] received we asked you to tap

[2:23:34] the wand. Today was approved

[2:23:36] ordinance number 2026 that we

[2:23:37] not ask PRESIDENT And moved to

[2:23:37] second reading on SEPTEMBER

[2:23:40] 22nd 2026. Thank you. MISTER

[2:23:40] Mayor.

[2:23:45] >> thank commission questions

[2:23:54] city clerk public

[2:23:54] >> close

[2:23:57] >> this public hearing request

[2:23:58] motion go ahead and move to

[2:24:01] continue ordinance number 2026

[2:24:04] dash 29 to second reading on

[2:24:08] SEPTEMBER 22nd.

[2:24:08] >> 2026 and.

[2:24:09] >> have a motion on the floor

[2:24:12] to continue ordinance 2026

[2:24:14] dash 2019 2nd reading on

[2:24:15] SEPTEMBER 22nd 2026 made by

[2:24:17] vice mayor seconded by

[2:24:18] commissioner deval there's

[2:24:21] nothing to that please vote

[2:24:28] that passes 5 to 0. Moving

[2:24:29] resolution resolution number

[2:24:35] 2026 dash r dash 54. Can be

[2:24:36] read by title please

[2:24:39] resolution number 2026 dash r

[2:24:40] dash 54 resolution of

[2:24:40] the city of north port, fl

[2:24:43] amending city commission

[2:24:44] policy 2020 dash 0, related to

[2:24:46] the issuance of ceremony

[2:24:47] items, including skew the city

[2:24:48] providing for complex

[2:24:48] providing for severability and

[2:24:52] providing an affected date.

[2:24:55] >> thank you commission

[2:24:56] questions are you introduce

[2:24:59] the item go ahead and decided

[2:25:01] to commission before and this

[2:25:02] is the resolution update the

[2:25:04] policy based on the commission

[2:25:07] direction I did speak during

[2:25:09] the one on ones and our that

[2:25:10] commissioner steps difference

[2:25:10] up to my attention and that

[2:25:12] was that I had to be

[2:25:16] presented. In NOVEMBER JUNE

[2:25:18] and NOVEMBER, which looking it

[2:25:18] would be after the years that

[2:25:19] we have an election year that

[2:25:22] commissioners will be leaving.

[2:25:24] So I did include a motion on

[2:25:24] your suggest emotions to

[2:25:25] change that inside this policy

[2:25:28] to have it presented and the

[2:25:36] months of MARCH and OCTOBER.

[2:25:37] >> commission

[2:25:38] >> questions commissioners

[2:25:39] yeah I just want to thank you

[2:25:43] city clerk this will allow you

[2:25:44] know for it not to interfere,

[2:25:47] so we would have a situation

[2:25:48] if we've new commissioners on

[2:25:50] when when we were actually

[2:25:56] same. You know issuing.

[2:25:57] >> key to cities, someone and

[2:25:58] they MAY not have had anything

[2:26:01] to do with the actual vote we

[2:26:03] want to do is kind of just

[2:26:03] moves couple months so so

[2:26:06] thank make sense.

[2:26:08] >> somebody else public

[2:26:11] comment. There's not. Close

[2:26:21] this public request, a motion.

[2:26:21] >> solutions number when when

[2:26:25] he or as result.

[2:26:26] >> there should be a second

[2:26:26] motion our commissioners

[2:26:28] about. To make the changes

[2:26:34] that I just don't tell.

[2:26:41] >> just

[2:26:51] >> we stand for.

[2:26:52] >> past present one has the

[2:26:54] dates the months to present

[2:26:54] that NOVEMBER, so I changed so

[2:26:55] there's a second suggest a

[2:27:00] motion on there.

[2:27:02] >> why move without those

[2:27:04] solutions over 2026

[2:27:06] >> your mic on. It's flashing

[2:27:21] over.

[2:27:24] >> to resolution 20 to 26 show

[2:27:29] 54 as amending section 3 seem

[2:27:31] read the city commission will

[2:27:33] consider a complete qualifying

[2:27:34] request for a key to the city

[2:27:35] twice per year during his

[2:27:36] schedule city commission

[2:27:38] meeting in the months of

[2:27:39] FEBRUARY and SEPTEMBER for

[2:27:42] presentation in MARCH and

[2:27:42] OCTOBER the key to the city

[2:27:47] MAY only be issued upon a

[2:27:56] >> thank motion on the spent

[2:27:56] seconded by commissioner duval

[2:27:57] there's nothing to have please

[2:28:14] vote. And passes. Moving us. I

[2:28:20] 26 dash 0, 9, 7, discussion

[2:28:23] and possible action regarding

[2:28:26] setting a donation of

[2:28:26] $8,534.32 from the kiwanis

[2:28:29] club of port.

[2:28:32] >> for the purchase and

[2:28:34] installation of displays of

[2:28:35] its and associated materials

[2:28:39] for storybook stroll pine

[2:28:41] bark, located 4, by 6

[2:28:46] mackinnon drive north 3, 4, 2,

[2:28:46] 8, 7,

[2:28:48] >> city manager this is your

[2:28:49] think that's based really fast

[2:28:54] you choose to accept that a

[2:28:54] double bye for to sit on the

[2:29:00] kiwanis club of poor for the

[2:29:01] purchases later this play is

[2:29:02] that it's an associate of

[2:29:03] materials is start pro located

[2:29:06] 4, 6, come and drive into

[2:29:07] work. 4, 2, 7, it would have

[2:29:08] answer any questions you MAY

[2:29:09] have.

[2:29:16] >> questions commissioners.

[2:29:17] >> vice thank you MISTER Mayor

[2:29:20] just just a comment. This

[2:29:22] program has been a long time

[2:29:26] coming and I'm delighted that

[2:29:27] it's happening and I think

[2:29:31] kevin park is exactly the

[2:29:33] right place to have the

[2:29:34] storybook straw I've seen them

[2:29:35] in other places and they're

[2:29:37] really pretty wonderful so

[2:29:37] thank you took a lot us for

[2:29:41] that donation.

[2:29:42] >> just for a correction

[2:29:48] that's pine mackinnon drive to

[2:29:51] >> kevin

[2:29:52] >> if there's nobody else do

[2:30:07] we have any public comment.

[2:30:09] >> commissioners about 6 years

[2:30:11] ago I was at a columbus

[2:30:13] convention and that's where

[2:30:16] were talking about storybook

[2:30:17] stroll I had never heard of

[2:30:18] that before and all of a

[2:30:19] sudden as I was sitting there

[2:30:20] I was like oh my goodness we

[2:30:23] can do this in port and while

[2:30:24] it shouldn't take that long to

[2:30:28] come up with GOD. 8 $9,000 we

[2:30:28] have things like hurricanes

[2:30:31] and other things. That have

[2:30:34] prevented us from getting it.

[2:30:35] The money to you guys quicker,

[2:30:40] but we did apply for some

[2:30:41] grants and I'd like to tell

[2:30:43] you that the kids that live in

[2:30:45] that line park neighborhood go

[2:30:46] to glen allen and lamar

[2:30:49] elementary school. That's

[2:30:53] they're at 50 to 80% free and

[2:30:54] reduced lunch, that means that

[2:30:56] they are already getting help

[2:30:57] with a reading and math and

[2:31:00] science because there

[2:31:01] potentially a little bit the

[2:31:04] fish and in that. So we like

[2:31:06] that story but still well off

[2:31:09] for them, a free book. It will

[2:31:11] offer them the ability to

[2:31:14] read. Something different we

[2:31:16] love the fact that we're able

[2:31:18] to partner with the city parks

[2:31:21] and recreation and we also

[2:31:22] would love in the future when

[2:31:26] it is actually built have the

[2:31:27] day for kids well the kiwanis

[2:31:31] club give out books and our

[2:31:32] PRESIDENT Jacqueline is here

[2:31:34] she actually has thank very

[2:31:39] much for consideration.

[2:31:40] >> you can turn that over to

[2:31:41] the commission we will keep it

[2:31:45] in good keeping.

[2:31:46] >> anything else you would you

[2:31:46] like to say a few words.

[2:31:53] >> thank you so much for

[2:31:54] setting our should parking

[2:31:58] wrecks and everyone thank you.

[2:32:01] >> if we city clerk if we put

[2:32:03] them on our next proclamation

[2:32:03] meeting they have a big check

[2:32:04] that they would

[2:32:10] >> like to. Is that too. Parks

[2:32:11] and on that day when we do our

[2:32:12] wards proclamations if we can

[2:32:16] schedule that. Thank you.

[2:32:21] Request a motion.

[2:32:23] >> I moved to accept a

[2:32:28] donation of a $1534.32 from

[2:32:30] the kiwanis club of north port

[2:32:32] for the purchase and

[2:32:33] installation of display

[2:32:37] exhibits and associated

[2:32:37] materials.

[2:32:38] >> to support the storybook

[2:32:42] stroll at pine park located at

[2:32:47] 5, 4, 5, 5, 6 mckibben drive.

[2:32:48] >> and the motion on the floor

[2:32:50] made by vice mayor to have a

[2:32:51] second serious second and a

[2:32:52] second by commissioner stokes

[2:32:58] there's nothing to that please

[2:33:01] and that passes 5 to thank you

[2:33:06] very much on club of port.

[2:33:07] >> but on to item b 26 dash 1,

[2:33:12] 0, 2, 1, discussion and

[2:33:15] possible action regarding art

[2:33:16] advisory board a

[2:33:16] recommendation memorandum for

[2:33:18] halloween the sculpture

[2:33:19] project. MISTER Says your

[2:33:22] item.

[2:33:27] >> MARCH 2620 24 commission

[2:33:28] this art installation by

[2:33:29] MISTER How again and we hate

[2:33:32] him to payments about $13,695

[2:33:36] each so he's been paid and a

[2:33:40] total 27,390 $1000 he has not

[2:33:45] completed the project. So that

[2:33:46] our board recommended that

[2:33:47] commission direct the city

[2:33:47] attorney to take see what

[2:33:50] action can be taken. Get the

[2:33:54] money back from MISTER Hall of

[2:33:56] >> okay has she made any types

[2:33:58] of and talent. I mean is he in

[2:34:00] the middle of the process had

[2:34:02] do we have any communications

[2:34:03] from yes we do I don't know

[2:34:04] the exact details on some of

[2:34:08] you might know about this or.

[2:34:09] >> MISTER Allen is that he is

[2:34:09] not able to complete the

[2:34:13] project at all okay so it

[2:34:14] could be that could be our

[2:34:15] meeting the course of action

[2:34:18] absolutely no that's fine. I

[2:34:18] just didn't know what the

[2:34:21] process we were at and

[2:34:21] commission questions

[2:34:28] discussions. City clerk public

[2:34:34] I'm going to request a motion.

[2:34:35] >> I make it go and move to

[2:34:36] direct city attorney doesn't

[2:34:37] demand letter MISTER Halligan

[2:34:40] for the incomplete project.

[2:34:41] >> have a motion on the floor

[2:34:41] made by commissioner spoke

[2:34:44] just second. Second seconded

[2:34:47] by vice mayor. If there's

[2:34:54] nothing to please passes 5 to

[2:35:03] 0. Moving on to item 26 dash

[2:35:04] 0, 2, 5, discussion and

[2:35:06] possible action regarding

[2:35:08] parks and recreation advisory

[2:35:09] board recommendation

[2:35:12] memorandum for canine club the

[2:35:12] rainbow bridge.

[2:35:16] >> and circle or wetland

[2:35:18] conservation.

[2:35:19] >> pass this is your guess

[2:35:20] this is also another

[2:35:20] memorandum from the parks and

[2:35:21] recreation advisory board I

[2:35:24] believe miller does have more

[2:35:32] information on this.

[2:35:35] >> is o k the other a little

[2:35:36] sand easy information keeper

[2:35:43] that school.

[2:35:43] >> patricia his assistant

[2:35:44] parks and recreation as well

[2:35:48] as liaison to recognize

[2:35:50] report. 2 items came forward

[2:35:51] to are correct advisory board

[2:35:54] from the public one

[2:35:54] conservation area for the well

[2:35:57] is located behind the circle

[2:36:00] of I'm asking requesting that

[2:36:02] area. He said as a

[2:36:03] conservation zone. Through our

[2:36:08] planning and zoning MARCH

[2:36:09] basically would be the start

[2:36:10] of preserving some of that

[2:36:11] area we did speak public works

[2:36:16] and it is owned by road

[2:36:16] drainage and there's no

[2:36:17] intended use for parcel so it

[2:36:18] would not affect them we were

[2:36:23] to I second item is a rainbow

[2:36:25] bridge, another item brought

[2:36:26] forward by community member

[2:36:29] and presented to the park or

[2:36:30] recognize report. The was a

[2:36:31] very large scale one located

[2:36:36] in north carolina and it had

[2:36:37] some problems with the initial

[2:36:38] projection they looking at the

[2:36:41] white house you buy a little

[2:36:43] part. During times of high

[2:36:44] water hurricanes we can have a

[2:36:46] lot of items that are you know

[2:36:48] last missing that type of

[2:36:49] thing. So we kind of talked

[2:36:53] through the process and they

[2:36:55] kind of landed on a small

[2:36:57] footbridge that would be

[2:36:57] located in the canine club

[2:37:02] that's already existing the

[2:37:02] clock's to be purchased

[2:37:03] through the city's tribute

[2:37:04] existing program where you can

[2:37:10] do more lies your pat at that

[2:37:11] so I'm looking approximately a

[2:37:12] $1500 cost we would be looking

[2:37:14] to probably locally. You know

[2:37:15] get some donations towards

[2:37:19] those materials.

[2:37:19] >> I had a question about that

[2:37:24] because I've seen some of

[2:37:24] these and pictures of and with

[2:37:25] that little foot bridge in

[2:37:32] now. What is allow for the

[2:37:34] citizens because put their

[2:37:36] memorandum of collars from

[2:37:38] their pets on that to display

[2:37:39] when we allow that to be able

[2:37:41] to do that we currently have

[2:37:42] ordinance that no personal

[2:37:43] property is permitted to be

[2:37:44] left in park, so that would be

[2:37:45] prohibitive about ordinance

[2:37:46] which is why we align it with

[2:37:50] the tribute program.

[2:37:50] >> where they could actually

[2:37:51] purchased the and installed a

[2:37:56] plaque on the actual bridge.

[2:37:56] >> we MAY have to look into

[2:37:57] that a little bit further down

[2:38:02] the road because I don't want

[2:38:02] to be like ok. Yes you've got

[2:38:04] to get plaque from parks and

[2:38:05] rec it MAY not mean as much to

[2:38:09] them as leaving the caller

[2:38:10] there for other participants,

[2:38:10] so we'll look into that in the

[2:38:14] future. The the other one that

[2:38:16] I had to about the

[2:38:18] conservation area feel that

[2:38:19] that's a great opportunity to

[2:38:20] be able to utilize his

[2:38:21] property and just leave it to

[2:38:23] be and let nature take over.

[2:38:24] You know just leave it like

[2:38:26] that because it does it is

[2:38:27] part of the circle of our so I

[2:38:30] mean. I appreciate that for

[2:38:32] for this coming up.

[2:38:35] Commissioner ball.

[2:38:41] >> what but everything staff I

[2:38:46] asked the ball. The rebel

[2:38:47] ridge. You know about cost to

[2:38:50] the city of maintenance. You

[2:38:53] know we've got to pay bill has

[2:38:53] staff asked them around it is

[2:38:57] one of the bay. I was assured

[2:39:05] by staff that the. Items baugh

[2:39:12] from city. In people's pets to

[2:39:12] be placed on the grid when

[2:39:17] colder those costs. You know I

[2:39:20] was originally against israeli

[2:39:20] rebel ridge just because

[2:39:21] maintenance of the cost

[2:39:23] whatever, but todd.

[2:39:26] Staff advised me that would be

[2:39:34] color. The second conservation

[2:39:37] is basically a drain behind

[2:39:40] and you know talked with.

[2:39:46] Citizens as part of certain

[2:39:46] will honor it would be you

[2:39:48] know walk around there just.

[2:39:52] Article. Repose reflection to

[2:39:55] be added to so they are so I

[2:39:58] think that's a good thing.

[2:40:02] That's vice mayor.

[2:40:04] >> thank you MISTER Mayor I I

[2:40:07] would suggest to ever wants to

[2:40:08] make a motion on this item

[2:40:11] that we separate the they

[2:40:12] might be a little different,

[2:40:15] you know do one on the rainbow

[2:40:18] bridge and one on the wetland

[2:40:19] conservation. I think the

[2:40:22] wetland conservation I also

[2:40:23] have chatted with multiple

[2:40:26] people on that end. And I

[2:40:31] agree for me it's a

[2:40:32] no-brainer. The rainbow bridge

[2:40:37] I have mixed feelings so. I

[2:40:41] like the approach of tying it

[2:40:42] into our tribute program

[2:40:43] because it would help find

[2:40:48] that.

[2:40:49] >> but I but I also get that

[2:40:52] people might want to leave a

[2:40:54] color their particularly on

[2:40:54] that I do I'm very interested

[2:40:55] in what other commissioners

[2:40:57] have to say.

[2:40:58] >> a little on the fence about

[2:41:01] that.

[2:41:04] >> commissioner thank you

[2:41:05] mayor. I concur with

[2:41:06] commissioner vice mayor

[2:41:14] london. Time separating the 2.

[2:41:19] And I lowering I have a

[2:41:21] question all buying by our

[2:41:22] citizens, you know play so

[2:41:28] like whatever call it.

[2:41:29] >> to place up there and yet

[2:41:30] we've the city have to

[2:41:31] maintain that and do all this

[2:41:33] work at the taxpayers money.

[2:41:39] At tax payers expense. So what

[2:41:41] are only commission and duval

[2:41:41] the staff assured him that

[2:41:42] there would recording of the

[2:41:49] cost. But this venue but it

[2:41:49] small team at how do we know

[2:41:51] for sure happens tomorrow.

[2:41:56] People not be interested

[2:41:57] >> doing I think we have a

[2:41:59] good market in people who

[2:42:00] frequent the canine club

[2:42:02] already however if there was

[2:42:04] not the lumber that would be

[2:42:05] our asked would be for

[2:42:06] donations from some of our

[2:42:10] local building. Organizations

[2:42:11] and that would could be used

[2:42:13] in other ways within the park

[2:42:14] system, there's always words

[2:42:16] that have to be replaced on

[2:42:17] boardwalks are other things so

[2:42:17] there wasn't it would be an

[2:42:21] easy removal itself. It's 68

[2:42:23] drive bridge. It's not a a

[2:42:30] very large composition.

[2:42:33] >> but the if you cross

[2:42:37] bridges in the city and to

[2:42:37] maintain and prepare or

[2:42:41] reconstruct. We've seen that

[2:42:42] those costs can be very

[2:42:47] expense. So I'm just like come

[2:42:48] on the fence with this one as

[2:42:49] well hoping to see what other

[2:42:55] commissions. Have to but it's

[2:42:57] known $2 it's just more of

[2:43:00] responsibility of our.

[2:43:01] Possible use of our tax payers

[2:43:08] money for project.

[2:43:09] >> all the way that I look at

[2:43:11] it is just like if we put up a

[2:43:12] swing set up are you know,

[2:43:13] we've got to maintain that

[2:43:17] take care of that we've got

[2:43:18] monumental bunches out there

[2:43:20] in memory of so and so you

[2:43:21] know I I believe that the

[2:43:23] maintenance on this is maybe

[2:43:24] payment every 5 years if

[2:43:24] needed and we need around it

[2:43:29] so you're talking about a 2

[2:43:29] minute so I I don't see the

[2:43:30] big issue on maintenance on

[2:43:33] this itself, you know and and

[2:43:33] coming down across time, I'm

[2:43:36] sure a volunteer would come in

[2:43:36] and thank the thing and

[2:43:41] probably half an hour so

[2:43:41] that's why I look at it I

[2:43:42] think it's I think it's a

[2:43:43] great idea and and we've got

[2:43:44] pet owners out there that

[2:43:45] maybe a little subsection of

[2:43:48] our community that really like

[2:43:49] I understand is not

[2:43:52] everybody's cup of tea, but

[2:43:53] I'm a pat or I would

[2:43:53] appreciate it, you know they

[2:43:56] for my pat.

[2:43:57] >> and just to be clear it's

[2:43:59] not a bridge that's

[2:44:00] constructed for certain levels

[2:44:03] of traffic it's it's more of a

[2:44:03] decorative small and it's

[2:44:04] going to be said not where

[2:44:05] people would you know using it

[2:44:12] to cross a waterway.

[2:44:16] >> do we have leading public

[2:44:17] comment yet.

[2:44:17] >> there is no public comment

[2:44:18] and there are 2 suggest

[2:44:22] emotions for each

[2:44:24] >> you're ahead of the game or

[2:44:27] I am going to request

[2:44:28] emotionally. I'll take a shot

[2:44:32] one of

[2:44:35] >> and that to address city

[2:44:37] manager to evaluate placing

[2:44:38] the wetland portion of parcel

[2:44:40] identification number 0, 9, 7,

[2:44:45] 9, 0, 0, 2000 under

[2:44:46] conservation as part of the

[2:44:50] circle of honor including any

[2:44:53] necessary legal environmental

[2:44:53] survey land management

[2:44:57] maintenance and budget

[2:44:57] considerations and to bring

[2:45:00] the proposed implementation

[2:45:01] that to the city commission

[2:45:01] for consideration.

[2:45:07] >> motion on the floor by vice

[2:45:09] mayor seconded by

[2:45:10] >> commissioner stokes there's

[2:45:18] nothing to that for him.

[2:45:20] Passes 5, 0, you know the

[2:45:33] motion. I to direct the city

[2:45:35] manager the to develop details

[2:45:37] necessary to implement the

[2:45:38] installation of a rainbow

[2:45:39] bridge at the canine club

[2:45:42] including amending the

[2:45:43] administrative regulations.

[2:45:44] >> for the tribune program to

[2:45:44] include the purchase supplies

[2:45:48] for pet owners too. Purpose of

[2:45:49] memory of their deceased and

[2:45:50] also including the creation

[2:45:56] of. Related procedures

[2:45:57] standards ethical harry uhl's

[2:46:00] cost recovery fees and to

[2:46:01] bring the proposed

[2:46:02] implementation plan back to

[2:46:02] the city commission for

[2:46:05] consideration.

[2:46:09] >> motion on the floor made by

[2:46:19] our city.

[2:46:26] >> when how old they are also

[2:46:31] 2

[2:46:32] >> so we have a motion on the

[2:46:33] floor to move the city manager

[2:46:38] to develop the details

[2:46:39] necessary to implement the

[2:46:40] installation of a rainbow

[2:46:40] bridge if the canine club city

[2:46:43] clerk do you have the rest of

[2:46:45] that case made our city mayor.

[2:46:49] Do I hear a second. Also.

[2:46:52] Seconded by commissioner duval

[2:46:53] if there's no more to that

[2:47:01] let's vote. And that motion

[2:47:06] passes 5 to 0.

[2:47:14] >> thank you did a

[2:47:19] commissioners of

[2:47:24] >> moving on to 26 dash 1, 0,

[2:47:27] 5, discussion possible action

[2:47:29] regarding acting unified land

[2:47:30] development regulations

[2:47:34] concerned data center's this

[2:47:35] was requested by commissioner

[2:47:36] stokes

[2:47:36] says MISTER Foss is going to

[2:47:37] introduce this item.

[2:47:42] >> this is a

[2:47:44] >> thank you very much

[2:47:48] commissioner stops this is

[2:47:49] your items.

[2:47:49] >> well, you know in our

[2:47:50] discussions about we've

[2:47:51] already you know kind of

[2:47:53] discussed the idea regulation.

[2:47:55] I think there's been plenty

[2:48:00] additional discussion about.

[2:48:01] >> how bill forry for 01:00am

[2:48:04] harris will interact and west

[2:48:05] priority and what we can

[2:48:09] legally do what we can really

[2:48:09] do it.

[2:48:10] >> none of that is the concern

[2:48:12] of this particular item for

[2:48:14] discussion possible action in

[2:48:16] my mind it was to formally

[2:48:18] give direction to the city

[2:48:18] attorney to go out and work

[2:48:24] diligently in a timely fashion

[2:48:25] draft foreign set a gold

[2:48:26] standard regulations whether

[2:48:30] includes protections. I don't

[2:48:36] care I want credibly. Strong

[2:48:38] set of regulations that

[2:48:39] address work our air quality

[2:48:43] and sound that are with in vol

[2:48:44] au for you to bring that to on

[2:48:48] a monthly basis tough day in a

[2:48:50] workshop, so that the public

[2:48:52] as well as commission can

[2:48:55] provide some input and should

[2:48:56] be a transparent process to

[2:48:56] put together whatever we can

[2:49:01] put together. As far as

[2:49:05] regulations. It was spent

[2:49:08] there legal strength or lack

[2:49:09] of legal straight that's not

[2:49:12] making we need to regulations

[2:49:13] and we also perhaps you can to

[2:49:19] bear in mind that. As a city.

[2:49:21] We have not yet dealt with

[2:49:25] industrial development here

[2:49:26] any extent and I think part of

[2:49:26] this process should be to take

[2:49:29] a look as well. Regulation

[2:49:33] that addresses. Industrial

[2:49:38] development as well because

[2:49:39] they say there's maybe only

[2:49:40] one of a number of types of

[2:49:42] projects industrial projects

[2:49:44] that MAY come before they have

[2:49:47] impact on the on sale only

[2:49:47] same areas and they need to be

[2:49:49] addressed as the city. We need

[2:49:56] to. Put together we need bring

[2:49:56] him before the commission and

[2:50:00] the public for everybody's and

[2:50:01] then figure out what we want

[2:50:03] to whether we can and that

[2:50:05] just before one 80 runs out or

[2:50:08] not is separate and apart a

[2:50:09] discussion that we could talk

[2:50:12] about for a century and never

[2:50:14] saw because that's going to be

[2:50:14] adjudicated in a court of law

[2:50:17] I have no doubt at some point

[2:50:20] but we need these regulations

[2:50:20] so happy to hear what

[2:50:22] everybody else on the say

[2:50:23] because we need to give clear

[2:50:24] direction and get this process

[2:50:24] going in my

[2:50:30] thank you vice

[2:50:33] >> thank you city attorney it

[2:50:34] was my understanding that we

[2:50:38] already gave you this

[2:50:40] direction. In the reading of

[2:50:42] the ordinance so I guess I'm

[2:50:45] asking for your understanding

[2:50:47] of where the direction to

[2:50:52] create those regulations. Our.

[2:50:57] >> well second rate impending

[2:50:57] right so.

[2:50:58] >> and issue discussed talked

[2:51:05] to just to be. Kerry because

[2:51:08] they said you want you're

[2:51:13] doing for the last years maybe

[2:51:15] longer something about it

[2:51:19] later all that's all for

[2:51:19] discussion.

[2:51:21] >> I'm very much inclined to

[2:51:22] focus on data centers now

[2:51:27] since it's such an immediate

[2:51:28] issue. I also have some

[2:51:29] concerns and some thoughts

[2:51:31] about how we should proceed in

[2:51:35] that industrial use category

[2:51:36] that personally I don't feel

[2:51:36] equipped to have a

[2:51:39] conversation on that today.

[2:51:45] My. Suggestion would be that

[2:51:46] we focus on data centers. I

[2:51:47] think we have all acknowledged

[2:51:54] that. And I'm so when we

[2:51:55] approved the moratorium one of

[2:51:58] the most important pieces of

[2:52:01] work is getting those

[2:52:02] regulations and guardrails in

[2:52:05] place and voted on and into

[2:52:06] our uldc and that we do that

[2:52:12] as quickly as possible. I

[2:52:15] don't know as monthly is the

[2:52:15] right time frame. Kind of open

[2:52:16] to that but I'd be interested

[2:52:17] in what my fellow

[2:52:18] commissioners have to say.

[2:52:27] Many here in ball.

[2:52:28] >> but question first I

[2:52:39] believe support it. Edition so

[2:52:40] additional commissioner stokes

[2:52:46] com going to talk about.

[2:52:47] Quality okay. Why does also a

[2:52:52] part of this okay. You know we

[2:52:54] all there's a number over

[2:52:58] love. Properties in the city

[2:53:01] the role of wells. We have a

[2:53:04] any kind of industry that is

[2:53:06] going lower the water table.

[2:53:11] You know that could affect

[2:53:12] thousands of people in the

[2:53:22] city. And I'm sure as city

[2:53:23] attorney worse things you but

[2:53:24] with some of things you one of

[2:53:28] would too. Comparatively for

[2:53:32] all their cities. Regarding

[2:53:35] you know. The best practices

[2:53:37] on the way that you know we

[2:53:39] could protect the city. For

[2:53:43] all. Consequences that we

[2:53:48] really do I have. That's it

[2:53:51] for me thank thank you. Sir

[2:53:57] commissioner federal thank you

[2:53:58] the subject water and I concur

[2:54:00] with vice mayor length and

[2:54:01] then commission to vote on the

[2:54:05] monthly updates monthly.

[2:54:06] Schedule if you will about

[2:54:15] stopped. But water. Such vital

[2:54:19] component a life's 70% of each

[2:54:21] one of consist more or water.

[2:54:27] And if we're contaminated the

[2:54:28] quality of life and

[2:54:31] everybody's affected. With

[2:54:38] this scale. Data is that. You

[2:54:40] know I just wonder what

[2:54:41] motivates the people more

[2:54:44] than. The quality of life and

[2:54:46] that's obviously in this case

[2:54:47] and my personal perception is

[2:54:51] money. And the u you know

[2:54:56] specifically said that also.

[2:54:58] Crypto mining whatever

[2:54:58] accountability of this data

[2:54:59] center so. Crypto mining is

[2:55:01] one of the most profitable

[2:55:05] mining. Modern days. You know

[2:55:12] college and probably but we

[2:55:14] cannot sacrifice quality of

[2:55:14] life and a specifically want

[2:55:22] to. The direction looking into

[2:55:25] this subject the and that is

[2:55:31] water. A 23 73.2 6, 2,

[2:55:35] specifically governments,

[2:55:36] let's scale. They decide is it

[2:55:36] requires they water used to be

[2:55:39] consistent. But local zoning

[2:55:45] and comprehensive it says what

[2:55:46] patient MAY not be issued when

[2:55:48] the proposed use would be

[2:55:49] harmful to the area's water

[2:55:52] resources. And one of reasons

[2:55:59] one of them. Overhead but the

[2:55:59] local regulations. So in my

[2:56:03] view we should the focus to

[2:56:06] the welfare of our and like

[2:56:06] and I was going to mention the

[2:56:09] same thing about what are also

[2:56:13] a lot of people and the senate

[2:56:15] our area low on water wells.

[2:56:19] It's even going to clean or

[2:56:23] and it depends skill

[2:56:23] large-scale they decide that

[2:56:27] we don't even know how big it

[2:56:28] we know the square footage, we

[2:56:29] know that building footprint

[2:56:31] but we don't know if it's 50

[2:56:34] megawatts it's 40 if it's 30

[2:56:38] 70. And what they you know

[2:56:40] proposed plans of how it's

[2:56:41] going to be done whether it's

[2:56:42] a substation or whatever it

[2:56:44] was still going to be used. So

[2:56:48] I just wanted to direct our.

[2:56:52] Attention and maybe make a

[2:56:53] motion to direct the city

[2:56:55] attorney specifically looking

[2:56:57] to that as legally authorized

[2:57:06] water study scale data sent to

[2:57:07] do critical mind you have to

[2:57:09] have a large scale data center

[2:57:10] still not just data center

[2:57:13] that brings me to that is

[2:57:19] notion again status I'm not.

[2:57:20] Davis said data center

[2:57:20] large-scale type of scale data

[2:57:26] center different. Tough

[2:57:27] animal. With is that we have

[2:57:30] seen from the discussion up to

[2:57:32] this point that even

[2:57:33] development does not know all

[2:57:35] the details and when we had

[2:57:38] workshop. We could really.

[2:57:39] Getting answers because it

[2:57:42] would project specific.

[2:57:44] Defense in the project. We did

[2:57:49] not know. You know the

[2:57:49] direction of developer what

[2:57:56] it's going to be. So having I

[2:57:58] want to direct the city

[2:58:01] attorney. You know to that

[2:58:02] specific area of water to do

[2:58:11] that. As legally as possible

[2:58:12] to restrict condition or deny

[2:58:13] approval of a new proposed

[2:58:13] large-scale data center within

[2:58:20] the city. You know because.

[2:58:21] Water resource protections for

[2:58:26] us. For humans as opposed to.

[2:58:32] You know probably driven.

[2:58:33] Schools and I'm open you know

[2:58:38] to listen to my fellow

[2:58:39] commissioners. How to direct

[2:58:41] the city attorney or is

[2:58:42] commission stokes does

[2:58:43] proposition doesn't include

[2:58:48] that. I just want to be more

[2:58:48] detail oriented when we talk

[2:58:50] about the water. Thank you

[2:58:54] mayor.

[2:58:56] >> I just have a question from

[2:59:00] commissioners stokes is it

[2:59:01] your intention to enable this

[2:59:02] work to begin before a second

[2:59:03] reading to kind of pull these

[2:59:06] regulations of the moratorium

[2:59:09] language. I mean we can lead

[2:59:10] and they are but you know what

[2:59:14] I'm saying to accelerate the

[2:59:16] it was my intention to give

[2:59:21] from direction to begin right

[2:59:21] now.

[2:59:22] >> because irrespective of

[2:59:23] this application or any

[2:59:27] application or any uses. I

[2:59:30] agree, let's start with but we

[2:59:32] need to do this and we need to

[2:59:34] get to work on and it is going

[2:59:35] to be a process because as we

[2:59:37] can none of us know exactly

[2:59:40] what to ask for yet. And we

[2:59:41] don't even know what's

[2:59:44] involved in this particular

[2:59:45] application yet, but I would

[2:59:47] say that we need to begin

[2:59:47] somewhere and that's what I'm

[2:59:48] trying to do is give direction

[2:59:52] to start process and then see

[2:59:54] it evolve. That's why I think

[2:59:55] the monthly you know updates

[2:59:57] are important in a workshop

[2:59:58] environment because not only

[3:00:01] will we have ideas in question

[3:00:03] but so the general public and

[3:00:05] this process needs include

[3:00:05] everybody kind development our

[3:00:09] city affects everybody and it

[3:00:12] can't be done in the dark can

[3:00:15] be by anyone needs to be done

[3:00:16] collectively by everybody to

[3:00:18] see health and welfare the

[3:00:20] city is protected so long way

[3:00:22] answer your question. Yes,

[3:00:27] >> but that idea.

[3:00:29] >> the one thing sort of

[3:00:30] concerned about is I

[3:00:30] understand the monthly I agree

[3:00:34] with the monthly updates. But

[3:00:35] depending on how far we go

[3:00:36] I've got no issues with having

[3:00:39] it at a workshop. But what if

[3:00:41] there's just not enough

[3:00:42] information as we move along

[3:00:43] to work we can use at least of

[3:00:47] the agenda item to go ahead

[3:00:49] and discuss it I just want to

[3:00:50] put that out there to where if

[3:00:52] he's only got like a 5 minute

[3:00:53] update we're not really

[3:00:54] passionate about to have a

[3:00:57] special meeting as workshop,

[3:00:58] public stolen by public but to

[3:00:59] be involved given public

[3:01:02] comment but. Instead of having

[3:01:03] a full long workshop for

[3:01:05] little information. It has an

[3:01:09] agenda item I just want the

[3:01:12] the attorney to have that

[3:01:13] going forward I just want to

[3:01:18] make monthly basis part of

[3:01:20] meeting agenda whether it's

[3:01:22] the jet that was to worship

[3:01:24] that we wore a part of this

[3:01:29] process sure 6 months get a

[3:01:33] pile of regulations that input

[3:01:34] okay, we should be part of

[3:01:36] this process that's right. I

[3:01:37] just hate to see put together

[3:01:40] a workshop at there's a day

[3:01:40] and yeah, the citizens have

[3:01:44] chance

[3:01:45] >> we've got the update there

[3:01:46] like well why would come here

[3:01:46] for you know, that's all I

[3:01:50] just hate to say it like

[3:01:51] commissioner petro.

[3:01:55] >> just want to say monthlies

[3:01:57] with not go further than than

[3:02:04] the monthly. A time just

[3:02:04] because you know it's a

[3:02:05] frightened little do agenda

[3:02:09] when the regular meeting. But

[3:02:10] if it's more we can depending

[3:02:16] on mound. But I want to wait 2

[3:02:17] months and you know you know

[3:02:21] technology itself is the vote

[3:02:22] so fast but the I mean it.

[3:02:29] Every time. There's an

[3:02:31] invention. But the time we get

[3:02:32] to come back in 2 months come

[3:02:32] up with some of the plants

[3:02:36] that we have not talked about

[3:02:37] it. So that's just my opinion

[3:02:39] but also question for the

[3:02:39] mayor and for the rest of the

[3:02:45] commission. Doing a specific

[3:02:46] direction to city attorney is

[3:02:50] up right now what we want to

[3:02:51] the more focused on I

[3:02:55] mentioned the 3, 7, 3, 4, 2,

[3:02:56] 6, 2, and I'm sure probably

[3:02:58] listened to that. And that's

[3:02:59] the thing.

[3:03:03] Regulation about large-scale

[3:03:11] data centers on water. Do how

[3:03:14] how specific do go right now

[3:03:16] right now the city attorney is

[3:03:18] in the queue allow and to

[3:03:19] answer the question. First 40

[3:03:20] for legality reasons city

[3:03:23] attorney.

[3:03:34] >> excuse yeah. Show. With as

[3:03:35] you know are going my thing

[3:03:36] have it, but it's probably a

[3:03:41] lot effort within the city

[3:03:44] this well because dlc is about

[3:03:52] steph if we want start it such

[3:03:58] part as I think but for a

[3:03:59] start and so we have to decide

[3:04:05] where that was the it.

[3:04:06] >> and and and that's use so I

[3:04:08] think should be some

[3:04:14] direction. Feels about it. But

[3:04:17] it doesn't become oldest, I

[3:04:20] believe because because I'm

[3:04:21] going to be like law that

[3:04:26] there would well an also I

[3:04:30] mean go that route.

[3:04:31] >> that would mean that this

[3:04:33] could be the first part of

[3:04:35] your process moving forward

[3:04:36] we're getting but all the

[3:04:37] ducks in order what we want to

[3:04:39] do this is part of you've

[3:04:40] gather in the information on

[3:04:41] where we want to go as well so

[3:04:42] putting a plan together is

[3:04:46] probably states want.

[3:04:47] >> but go ahead commissioner,

[3:04:48] and and good point there

[3:04:51] because that's that's why the

[3:04:52] state speak collaborative

[3:04:53] process. The first is to come

[3:04:55] up with a plan on how we're

[3:04:57] going attack this and I don't

[3:04:59] disagree city attorney that

[3:05:00] there needs to be important

[3:05:01] and I should have had that not

[3:05:03] just input from this

[3:05:04] commission input from the

[3:05:07] public input from staff and

[3:05:09] import most importantly from

[3:05:11] third-party professionals who

[3:05:14] have perhaps wall this war

[3:05:16] before in other jurisdictions

[3:05:18] because I truly do believe

[3:05:20] that level of objectivity and

[3:05:21] transparency is important here

[3:05:24] because have been many

[3:05:26] allegations MAY personally I

[3:05:31] feel but never last MAY that I

[3:05:32] goal to need for objectivity

[3:05:33] with regard to the process of

[3:05:37] of preparing drafting and

[3:05:41] enacting any regulations so

[3:05:42] whatever it takes and that's

[3:05:43] why this monthly update

[3:05:46] process allows us to keep

[3:05:51] tweeting process and just to

[3:05:52] get you want to be in a

[3:05:55] direction as commissioner

[3:05:55] petro said they're all lying

[3:05:59] areas to wrap our heads around

[3:06:00] and you know a lot of

[3:06:02] resources to draw from order

[3:06:03] to do so you know we don't

[3:06:08] know. Today that's why it

[3:06:09] needs to be more of a general

[3:06:10] direction and then sort of

[3:06:11] walk this process forward

[3:06:13] expand that as we go. I mean

[3:06:18] so making sense. Yeah and as

[3:06:18] we have these updates to we

[3:06:21] can figure out. You know just

[3:06:26] like he says is collaborative.

[3:06:26] >> let's say we have another

[3:06:27] agenda item saying he brings

[3:06:29] it back this is our game plan.

[3:06:32] We wanted to study a b and c

[3:06:34] and then we know which

[3:06:35] departments going to you know

[3:06:36] in charge of those studies are

[3:06:37] overseeing those studies

[3:06:40] getting those studies taking

[3:06:41] the reins will be a

[3:06:45] collaborative you know.

[3:06:46] Initiative between the whole

[3:06:47] city working together so yeah

[3:06:48] I agree with you we need to

[3:06:51] go. General get a game plan

[3:06:56] move forward. Anybody else.

[3:07:05] City clerk public comment.

[3:07:06] >> person I have problems and

[3:07:06] the all by samuel and diane

[3:07:16] conrad.

[3:07:17] >> commission is still too

[3:07:18] kind of what I say it's a big

[3:07:21] need thank it has to be will

[3:07:25] specific.

[3:07:29] >> it can't just grouped under

[3:07:31] a blanket use industrial heavy

[3:07:31] industrial intensive. It's got

[3:07:34] to be real specific. It's not

[3:07:36] just the hype. The scale. This

[3:07:39] other centers too. So we need

[3:07:43] to break those down as well if

[3:07:43] we really want to be specific

[3:07:44] and we really want to cover

[3:07:46] the whole gambit you can't

[3:07:49] just focus on just the hyper

[3:07:50] scales as we have to focus on

[3:07:51] the other types of centers

[3:07:54] that are out there well. And

[3:07:55] have that written into our

[3:08:00] cold as well. I appreciate

[3:08:01] you're listening to the

[3:08:01] citizen me because we need to

[3:08:05] be included in this. Also of

[3:08:06] course staff and also an

[3:08:28] outside entity as well. Once

[3:08:29] we've got some kind of the

[3:08:29] plan is all that we've got

[3:08:29] maybe a first or second draft.

[3:08:29] We can then bring it

[3:08:29] consultant to look at this and

[3:08:29] see you know if everything is

[3:08:29] jogging and the citizenry is

[3:08:30] protected as well. Not just

[3:08:30] the city, but the citizen. So

[3:08:30] thank

[3:08:37] >> thank want

[3:08:40] >> ok guys my name is samuel

[3:08:41] turpin given you ordinance

[3:08:42] today everything that you guys

[3:08:45] are saying appears bo ship.

[3:08:47] The ordinance officially

[3:08:48] declaring the legislative

[3:08:50] intent to modify the land

[3:08:52] development regulations all

[3:08:55] the to establish copperhead

[3:08:58] recharge basins a well-done

[3:08:59] utility standards was in

[3:09:02] immediate indication of the

[3:09:03] pending court doctor to today

[3:09:13] for applications consumption

[3:09:19] and utility think rain that

[3:09:20] out 7 counties that have

[3:09:25] already

[3:09:33] >> a charge, all that is said

[3:09:35] and I want to they operate as

[3:09:38] an extensive program its

[3:09:40] development say section 3.0 6.

[3:09:49] Graham protection. Attention

[3:09:51] this study, kevin call it

[3:09:52] straight when will development

[3:09:58] design standards by adopting

[3:10:02] the official put best to meant

[3:10:17] men it. Information that let's

[3:10:26] stop senators. Is a protection

[3:10:42] ordinance chapter shed.

[3:10:48] Recharge he watching this too

[3:10:56] bad that you do not protect

[3:11:08] you want to you need to 32

[3:11:12] seconds estrogen surrounding

[3:11:15] clear that's topic child

[3:11:21] telling that to to ensure part

[3:11:22] action all insists that is not

[3:11:32] lot to at. Sentence what the

[3:11:33] truth that standing here today

[3:11:48] in JUNE of you know.

[3:11:48] >> good

[3:11:51] >> afternoon. My name is diane

[3:11:52] conrad, I've been a citizen of

[3:11:58] port for 35 years. And I'm

[3:11:59] here to demand the immediate

[3:12:04] drafting a permanent wellfield

[3:12:05] protection ordinances written

[3:12:08] directly into our local land

[3:12:08] development regulations under

[3:12:12] florida senate bill 4.84. We

[3:12:13] are done with your delays

[3:12:14] starting to send all this

[3:12:14] #

[3:12:18] .

[3:12:18] >> under the judicial pending

[3:12:19] morton stocked room you have

[3:12:26] the legal authority. Now draft

[3:12:29] these water protections

[3:12:30] instantly freezing any new

[3:12:34] data center applications.

[3:12:35] North port deserves progress

[3:12:40] that respects its land. Water

[3:12:41] wildlife and people and our

[3:12:43] future children. Nobody seems

[3:12:47] to talk about the children.

[3:12:48] They're going to grow up and

[3:12:48] live with pollution.

[3:12:53] So please make the right

[3:12:54] decision for the people and

[3:12:58] their children. And as I'm

[3:12:58] standing sitting here

[3:13:03] watching. It's the same thing

[3:13:09] over and over from you

[3:13:10] >> you need stand out and do

[3:13:15] something for the people. It

[3:13:16] is not right what you're doing

[3:13:17] how did you get yourself into

[3:13:21] this to begin with. Now we

[3:13:21] wouldn't be here if it wasn't

[3:13:24] for young people that signed

[3:13:25] the agreement for the data

[3:13:29] center. So it's up to you fix

[3:13:33] it. With all these people that

[3:13:37] have come to these meetings.

[3:13:43] Please wake

[3:13:43] >> thank you I am so far and

[3:13:58] are yes.

[3:14:06] >> well good afternoon

[3:14:09] everybody. It's nice to be in

[3:14:18] the chamber to for example,

[3:14:18] we've heard some great stuff

[3:14:19] today I want to samuel turban

[3:14:24] a. All right thank robin I

[3:14:27] want to every speaker heard in

[3:14:27] the last 2, 3, weeks in the

[3:14:32] city of port.

[3:14:33] >> we have a real problem with

[3:14:37] the water.

[3:14:38] >> there's no ifs ands or

[3:14:41] butts about it.

[3:14:45] >> we all these there are

[3:14:46] already in place and all of

[3:14:47] these different things that

[3:14:48] have been passed and that are

[3:14:56] there. To protect the wall. To

[3:14:56] protect recharging of the

[3:14:57] intermediate and the surficial

[3:15:08] awful for. We was a phosphate

[3:15:09] they are sucking the life out

[3:15:11] of our awful start.

[3:15:18] >> no only the other

[3:15:20] >> tons of water per year for

[3:15:25] this specific center were all

[3:15:26] talking about.

[3:15:27] >> guess what everybody we do

[3:15:27] have 2 billion gallons of

[3:15:34] excess water. I toll richard

[3:15:35] anderson's previous bosses at

[3:15:36] the peace river water

[3:15:39] authority. That this wasn't

[3:15:41] going to be enough. Expansion

[3:15:47] are doing. That they would

[3:15:49] need to probably 3 reservoirs.

[3:15:54] They didn't the land. I have

[3:15:55] to tell everyone of you right

[3:15:59] now. I should be getting ready

[3:16:03] to fight

[3:16:14] >> to city of north port so

[3:16:18] show

[3:16:19] >> so here's what I want

[3:16:20] everybody in the city of north

[3:16:24] port to to hear. If this does

[3:16:28] it become a hard no. I'm going

[3:16:29] get a lot of people to write a

[3:16:33] letter. We're going to file a

[3:16:33] letter of intent to sue the

[3:16:40] city of port. Understand. For

[3:16:45] threatening the quality of my

[3:16:45] life.

[3:16:46] >> the quality my in brother

[3:16:50] sister in charlotte county.

[3:16:51] >> matter of this is what

[3:16:52] we're going to be doing to

[3:16:55] every county.

[3:16:58] >> her for you are here to

[3:17:02] protect us. Just like I

[3:17:07] protect every one of you.

[3:17:08] Walking down the street he

[3:17:23] said hospital.

[3:17:25] >> any thank you for the

[3:17:27] opportunity to speak because

[3:17:30] my concern is that we address

[3:17:31] multiple issues really we

[3:17:32] recognize that we need to

[3:17:34] create an ordinance did

[3:17:36] business is permitted uses. We

[3:17:39] have to look at not water

[3:17:40] issue. But the talks of

[3:17:41] commons that are being

[3:17:43] released from these data

[3:17:44] centers, current construction

[3:17:46] is using gas fuel and diesel

[3:17:47] fuel generators. Amount of

[3:17:48] toxic carvings that are being

[3:17:53] emitted has become a deal. A

[3:17:54] concern for all communities.

[3:17:57] All you have to do is google a

[3:18:00] county and you'll see multiple

[3:18:00] videos of what they're dealing

[3:18:03] with now since 2024 and the

[3:18:06] toxic. Missions have produced

[3:18:07] and the and the dangerous

[3:18:08] aspects of lung cancer and

[3:18:11] other things is being treated

[3:18:12] there. So when we talk about

[3:18:13] state-of-the-art I would like

[3:18:16] to make sure that we propose

[3:18:17] an ordinance you know going

[3:18:18] above state-of-the-art to

[3:18:20] number one gas field and

[3:18:23] diesel fuel generators and

[3:18:24] instead given our state to

[3:18:25] demand that these type of

[3:18:26] systems use solar and says

[3:18:28] they do have to have a

[3:18:30] tendency in energy they use

[3:18:33] either or magnetic a

[3:18:34] generator, so they become

[3:18:35] self-sufficient and not

[3:18:38] relying on a I also recommend

[3:18:40] that we have used evacuation

[3:18:42] systems and the generator, a

[3:18:43] water and not using or city

[3:18:45] water to continue the services

[3:18:46] demand that it be in a closed

[3:18:47] loop system open mov system

[3:18:52] because. Other counties have

[3:18:53] already experienced massive

[3:18:54] difference in consumption and

[3:18:56] those type of systems and to

[3:18:57] design such that we're

[3:18:59] eliminating noise and we're

[3:19:00] eliminating toxic omeish

[3:19:02] emissions that come out of so

[3:19:03] thank you for the time and

[3:19:04] thank you for these

[3:19:05] considerations I think it's

[3:19:07] really important that we set

[3:19:10] these type rules stated but

[3:19:11] anybody is doing now because

[3:19:12] we need that a new deal see

[3:19:13] because we don't have specific

[3:19:14] that definition the type of

[3:19:14] industry. Thank you. Thank

[3:19:23] you.

[3:19:29] >> ipm cars for the record.

[3:19:29] >> so knowing mostly

[3:19:33] whatever's in the uldc there's

[3:19:34] 356 pages in the uldc 6

[3:19:35] chapters the only resident

[3:19:37] that has read this entire uldc

[3:19:39] as robinson that's ending. I

[3:19:44] was there for most of it. I do

[3:19:44] remember stating that when you

[3:19:45] do the rezone I do understand

[3:19:48] the need for commercial,

[3:19:49] however, when you re zone and

[3:19:51] do this uldc you need to do it

[3:19:52] responsibly so now here we

[3:19:56] are. One of my suggestions is

[3:20:00] is you need to bring fpl back

[3:20:01] and when you bring of peel

[3:20:03] back do not bring the

[3:20:03] community person that was

[3:20:06] going to calm, they don't know

[3:20:07] anything. My husband has over

[3:20:10] 40 years of experience and a

[3:20:12] large like triple utility

[3:20:13] company up in connecticut, so

[3:20:13] all these cheddar cheddar

[3:20:17] actually went into my brain.

[3:20:18] What you need to do is bring

[3:20:18] in the actual technical

[3:20:24] experts that do the job fpl

[3:20:25] you need the guy at the

[3:20:27] generating station to let

[3:20:29] citizens know exactly how they

[3:20:30] expect to generate all this

[3:20:32] electricity to bring the you

[3:20:35] need the technicians in the

[3:20:36] transmission station that

[3:20:37] tells us how they're going to

[3:20:37] figure out low because it's

[3:20:41] going to start once the

[3:20:43] customer brings there's best

[3:20:44] specs to that engineer that

[3:20:48] has the right up that that

[3:20:49] work plan they have 2 kids

[3:20:50] they've got calculations that

[3:20:52] they need to do to do that

[3:20:54] load they're going to figure

[3:20:56] out exactly how much equipment

[3:20:56] this customer needs and

[3:20:57] they're going to charge that

[3:21:00] customer for that equipment

[3:21:01] and then they'll go with that

[3:21:02] tell the generating station

[3:21:04] how much they need to generate

[3:21:05] so that is one of the things I

[3:21:08] suggest that when fpl comes

[3:21:10] back that's what they bring

[3:21:11] they bring those technical

[3:21:12] expert back because I know you

[3:21:13] guys all had questions about

[3:21:16] that and then also with fpl

[3:21:19] there's also up protocols that

[3:21:24] they have to fall one of the

[3:21:26] things that you need to ask is

[3:21:28] regarding that equipment so if

[3:21:30] you have it for example that

[3:21:31] transmission stations out

[3:21:32] there in new york sure they've

[3:21:34] got this couple numbers out of

[3:21:36] the hat they've got 20

[3:21:37] transformers that service, the

[3:21:39] city of north port from that

[3:21:42] station. So now if you put a

[3:21:43] data center and and you bring

[3:21:45] in 10 transformers only to

[3:21:47] support that that a center

[3:21:48] that is centered people paid

[3:21:49] for that was transformers

[3:21:51] because that's part of

[3:21:52] equipment that they need to

[3:21:55] pay so it per se we have a

[3:21:58] hurricane and all of those 30

[3:22:00] transformers are now destroyed

[3:22:02] who pays rules 10 because the

[3:22:04] citizen should only pay for

[3:22:07] the 20 that service us if if

[3:22:08] the hurricane damages, all of

[3:22:09] them and that dennis should be

[3:22:13] in the before me that they

[3:22:14] figure out when they restore

[3:22:15] that power and bring that back

[3:22:17] they should be responsible for

[3:22:17] their 10 it shouldn't be the

[3:22:22] citizens paying for. The

[3:22:23] entire 30 along with the data

[3:22:25] center because now they've

[3:22:26] kind their cost has been thank

[3:22:31] you.

[3:22:34] >> angela years the commission

[3:22:37] to adopt strong enforceable

[3:22:39] land-use before committing any

[3:22:43] project florida's 2026 cs cs

[3:22:46] sb 4, 8, now chapter 2026 65,

[3:22:46] specifically recognizes that

[3:22:49] largely facility such as data

[3:22:49] centers creating planning

[3:22:53] infrastructure part of

[3:22:54] concerns it also preserves

[3:22:54] local government authority

[3:22:55] over comprehensive planning

[3:22:57] and land

[3:22:58] development regulation north

[3:22:59] port should use protective

[3:23:03] residents. A should require

[3:23:05] substantial setbacks from

[3:23:05] neighborhood schools, parks,

[3:23:06] and environmentally sensitive

[3:23:10] areas. And forceful noise

[3:23:12] limit measured at neighboring

[3:23:13] properties disclosure of

[3:23:13] monitoring of water

[3:23:14] consumption and detailed

[3:23:16] information on electricity

[3:23:19] demand cooling systems back up

[3:23:20] generation and infrastructure

[3:23:21] impacts the city must also

[3:23:23] protect itself that the

[3:23:25] developers projections prove

[3:23:26] inaccurate what happened

[3:23:27] actual noise water used and

[3:23:29] traffic infrastructure needs

[3:23:30] or employment to for

[3:23:31] substantially from the

[3:23:33] promises made during a purple

[3:23:33] there must be enforceable

[3:23:34] mitigation requirements

[3:23:35] ongoing monitoring and

[3:23:39] consequences, not simply

[3:23:40] assurances. He might impacts

[3:23:42] must also be consider multiple

[3:23:43] data centers could play

[3:23:43] significant demands on north

[3:23:44] port's water supply electrical

[3:23:46] system roads and

[3:23:47] neighborhoods. I urge the

[3:23:49] commission to strengthen the

[3:23:50] uldc before approving these

[3:23:51] facilities and to ensure that

[3:23:53] no project can automatically

[3:23:54] expand its allowable impacts

[3:23:58] intensity water cassidy

[3:24:00] without proper without public

[3:24:01] notice and commissioner purple

[3:24:03] please provide infrastructure

[3:24:04] capacity water resources,

[3:24:05] environmental protection and

[3:24:06] long-term community planning

[3:24:06] ahead of expedited

[3:24:10] development. Said the good

[3:24:12] morning commissioners. My name

[3:24:12] is writes, I'm calling in

[3:24:14] today with the direct mandate

[3:24:16] for this time we demand the

[3:24:16] immediate drafting and

[3:24:18] enactment a permit wellfield

[3:24:18] protection ordinance as

[3:24:19] written directly into our

[3:24:22] local land development

[3:24:24] regulations when senate bill

[3:24:25] 4, 8, 4, we're done with the

[3:24:25] administrative delays 12 month

[3:24:27] study task force or legally

[3:24:27] risky moratoriums that trigger

[3:24:31] multimillion-dollar developer

[3:24:31] lawsuits under the judicial

[3:24:32] pending ordinance doctor and

[3:24:33] you have the legal author

[3:24:35] authority right now to

[3:24:36] officially announced you're

[3:24:37] tracking these water

[3:24:39] protections instantly freezing

[3:24:39] any new hyperscale data center

[3:24:40] applications from sneaking

[3:24:43] into our borders protect hands

[3:24:44] use sb for tech florida's

[3:24:48] water right now. David I I was

[3:24:49] shocked to see if anything is

[3:24:51] done on this agenda item that

[3:24:53] is meaningful. It doesn't

[3:24:54] assign that has been discussed

[3:24:55] as neither sustainable nor is

[3:24:55] it compatible with how a c 6

[3:24:57] was to find all the water need

[3:25:01] to come from the city. How is

[3:25:02] that possible with existing

[3:25:03] city plans to help system

[3:25:06] properties to water the uldc

[3:25:08] also needs to be rewritten as

[3:25:09] to how it affects the

[3:25:10] neighborhoods of north port

[3:25:12] truly disgusting work by

[3:25:12] development services who

[3:25:13] clearly have to guard quality

[3:25:17] of life and the residents. The

[3:25:19] part of the uldc rewrite and

[3:25:20] fletcher's move to eliminate

[3:25:22] the commission from its do

[3:25:22] legislative function is

[3:25:24] already being seen and if not

[3:25:25] fixed. Now will have terrible

[3:25:26] repercussions on the city as a

[3:25:30] place to live. David good

[3:25:32] morning commissioners, I'm a

[3:25:34] homeowner in north port, I'm

[3:25:35] reading today. Pretty direct

[3:25:36] mandate. We demand the

[3:25:37] immediate drafting and

[3:25:38] enactment a permanent

[3:25:39] wellfield protection

[3:25:40] ordinances right directly into

[3:25:40] our local land development

[3:25:41] regulations on the florida

[3:25:44] senate bill 4, 8, 4, trait of

[3:25:46] delays 12 month study task

[3:25:47] force were legally risky

[3:25:48] moratoriums that trigger

[3:25:50] multi-million dollar developer

[3:25:51] lawsuit part of that

[3:25:52] additional pending ordinance

[3:25:52] doctor and you have the legal

[3:25:53] authority right now to

[3:25:54] officially announce your draft

[3:25:56] these water protections

[3:25:57] instantly freezing any new

[3:25:57] hyperscale data center

[3:25:58] applications from sneaking

[3:26:00] into our borders, media

[3:26:01] attention is needed to protect

[3:26:02] our city and it's awful for

[3:26:07] him. The should have been in

[3:26:09] place before the city manager

[3:26:09] MISTER Talks and who knows

[3:26:12] what else what data center

[3:26:13] representatives owners. It

[3:26:15] center's will positive for the

[3:26:16] city as residents why the ndi

[3:26:18] we don't want center's our

[3:26:18] city it's not the answer to

[3:26:19] the financial shortfalls or

[3:26:20] whatever reason this was

[3:26:23] entered into by sting m it

[3:26:26] makes absolutely 0 sense

[3:26:26] considering water for even the

[3:26:27] population is in question we

[3:26:30] have no idea what tax breaks

[3:26:31] concessions except and what we

[3:26:33] are actually want to gain from

[3:26:35] it's all this to me is an

[3:26:36] outright lie, all the citizens

[3:26:38] of north port every animal and

[3:26:38] really makes no sense I would

[3:26:41] much prefer being sued end up

[3:26:43] like flint michigan please

[3:26:45] please do whatever is

[3:26:46] necessary to centers in our

[3:26:47] city, including the

[3:26:47] current one sure that and ii I

[3:26:54] thank you l. Donna measures,

[3:26:55] I'm writing to express my

[3:26:56] strong opposition to any

[3:26:58] framework under agenda item 26

[3:27:00] dash 1051 that allows

[3:27:02] exemptions or grandfather

[3:27:03] bought this for industrial

[3:27:04] development specifically

[3:27:05] pending 896,000 square-foot

[3:27:08] your facility to bypass strict

[3:27:09] zoning freezes last year the

[3:27:10] commission's acknowledgment

[3:27:12] that are you know city

[3:27:13] completely the necessary

[3:27:15] guardrails to manage these

[3:27:16] heavy operations any

[3:27:19] regulatory updates must be

[3:27:20] prepared with a comprehensive

[3:27:22] hall active reviews a lot

[3:27:23] existing applications to

[3:27:24] progress well we scramble to

[3:27:25] write the rules defeats the

[3:27:27] purpose of levels protections

[3:27:28] our community cannot absorb

[3:27:29] the severe long-term impacts

[3:27:29] of these facilities

[3:27:32] infrastructure and utilities

[3:27:34] strong these facilities place

[3:27:35] monumental demands on

[3:27:36] electrical grids and water

[3:27:37] resources starting utility

[3:27:38] stability and pass to the

[3:27:41] residential neighborhoods,

[3:27:42] noisy environment and that and

[3:27:45] that environmental degradation

[3:27:46] when they have industrial

[3:27:48] chillers and backup diesel

[3:27:49] generators place to

[3:27:51] residential and logical

[3:27:52] frontal sounds introduces

[3:27:54] chronic frequency noise

[3:27:55] pollution thermal strain,

[3:27:55] minimal local pay off these

[3:27:56] facilities operate on massive

[3:27:59] footprints that are highly

[3:28:01] automated producing negligible

[3:28:01] long-term employment

[3:28:03] opportunities for north port

[3:28:05] residents. Once construction

[3:28:07] and I urge the commission to

[3:28:08] enforce year for a complete

[3:28:10] moratorium on all development

[3:28:13] sure but any new uldc land-use

[3:28:14] regulations certainly

[3:28:16] protect north port

[3:28:17] infrastructure natural

[3:28:17] resources and neighborhoods

[3:28:21] from industrial to petition.

[3:28:22] Mayor commissioners I support

[3:28:23] ordinance number 2026 dash 25

[3:28:26] and the temporary moratorium

[3:28:28] on new expanding a dozen or

[3:28:28] days in north port, I'm not

[3:28:31] opposed to responsible

[3:28:32] development technology or

[3:28:33] economic growth, I'm opposed

[3:28:34] to making long-term decisions

[3:28:35] with potentially significant

[3:28:36] consequences before we fully

[3:28:38] understand consequences.

[3:28:39] Centers are fundamentally

[3:28:40] different from the development

[3:28:42] port has traditionally planned

[3:28:44] for they can play significant

[3:28:45] demands of electrical

[3:28:46] infrastructure water resources

[3:28:47] land and other infrastructure

[3:28:48] while potentially creating

[3:28:51] relatively few permanent jobs

[3:28:53] that does not automatically

[3:28:54] make it doesn't port it means

[3:28:55] we should know exactly what we

[3:28:58] are green to before we agree

[3:28:59] to the moratorium give the

[3:29:00] city time to answer critical

[3:29:02] questions. What are the water

[3:29:03] and electric man's who pays

[3:29:04] for report of a structure

[3:29:05] residents be protected from

[3:29:06] noise generators environmental

[3:29:09] impacts and incompatible land

[3:29:09] uses well as economic benefits

[3:29:13] port receive in return. And

[3:29:15] what happens at the facility

[3:29:17] expands or it use its use

[3:29:18] changes question should be

[3:29:19] answered through policy before

[3:29:19] an application sitting in

[3:29:20] front of the commission and

[3:29:23] the city is under pressure to

[3:29:23] act north port has one

[3:29:24] opportunity to establish the

[3:29:25] rules be for this type of

[3:29:27] development arrives at scale.

[3:29:27] Moratorium is not a it's not

[3:29:31] until we now I respectfully

[3:29:32] urge commission to approve

[3:29:33] ordinance 2026 dash 25 and use

[3:29:38] this time establish and

[3:29:39] forceful standards ensuring

[3:29:40] any future center provides a

[3:29:40] genuine net benefit to north

[3:29:45] port that's residence. Just I

[3:29:46] support commission putting

[3:29:47] standards in place to prevent

[3:29:47] things like data centers and

[3:29:50] other unwanted industries.

[3:29:51] Imagine if want to

[3:29:53] commissioner back to the 3 of

[3:29:55] you to put more time into the

[3:29:57] uldc you actually commissioner

[3:29:58] langdon a previous meeting you

[3:29:58] mentioned not having it first

[3:30:02] of all fortunately you did you

[3:30:04] she backs you to take more

[3:30:05] time with the uldc and he

[3:30:05] tooth and nail not I think you

[3:30:09] guys forget that we go back

[3:30:10] and meetings to see who was in

[3:30:13] the wrong side things.

[3:30:15] Christina that I support and

[3:30:16] acting stringent regulations

[3:30:17] within the uldc vergara data

[3:30:18] centers and expect said

[3:30:20] regulations to apply to

[3:30:23] applicant for the current are

[3:30:23] entered port is not the

[3:30:24] appropriate place for a

[3:30:25] 900,000 square-foot car

[3:30:25] stopped center.

[3:30:30] Florida a center in north port

[3:30:31] we don't need or want this

[3:30:34] technology. We don't have

[3:30:36] water to not a single resident

[3:30:37] wants to pay extra for we need

[3:30:39] more trees not last we don't

[3:30:41] want to see or hear the

[3:30:42] government says it will

[3:30:42] provide peace and safety and

[3:30:45] we need to stay ahead of china

[3:30:46] and technology we don't want

[3:30:46] the surveillance like china

[3:30:47] has we don't need a social

[3:30:50] credit score like china where

[3:30:52] the government controls where

[3:30:55] we go and what we and cannot

[3:30:55] government control needs to

[3:30:56] stop in america, our

[3:30:57] forefathers our freedom north

[3:30:58] port needs to stop by power

[3:30:58] arrive. We

[3:31:04] the people. Let I support

[3:31:06] putting strict regulations in

[3:31:07] place for data center cesar

[3:31:07] massive industrial projects

[3:31:08] and they should not be allowed

[3:31:10] residential areas without

[3:31:12] strong setbacks noise limits

[3:31:13] creating public port to keep

[3:31:14] are proving major projects

[3:31:16] that. First worrying about the

[3:31:20] impact on residents later

[3:31:21] protect the people who are

[3:31:24] already here before approving

[3:31:27] large-scale development. A

[3:31:28] neighbors in massive debt

[3:31:28] developer is eyeing our city

[3:31:29] and we must stop weak

[3:31:32] regulations from destroying

[3:31:33] our neighborhoods regarding 26

[3:31:34] dash 1051 we need to demand

[3:31:35] that the city commission

[3:31:39] that's the absolute strictest

[3:31:40] protections possible and are

[3:31:41] unified land development

[3:31:44] center's eyeing our region

[3:31:46] will turn north korea into an

[3:31:47] industrial dumping ground

[3:31:48] current covid isn't built for

[3:31:49] this we need to demand

[3:31:50] stricter protections before

[3:31:53] any development is approved

[3:31:54] massive setbacks keep that far

[3:31:56] away from homes neighborhoods

[3:31:58] and green spaces strict noise

[3:31:58] for a stop to 24 frequency

[3:32:02] humming for systems resource

[3:32:03] protections tap water and

[3:32:04] power use residents are step

[3:32:06] the soaring utility bills, no

[3:32:07] tax breaks make them pay their

[3:32:08] fair share support for local

[3:32:10] infrastructure, they exhaust,

[3:32:10] let's protect our piece

[3:32:11] property values and

[3:32:16] environment. Dimartino good

[3:32:18] morning commissioners. My name

[3:32:19] is sam and I'm commenting

[3:32:20] today with a direct mandate

[3:32:20] for the we demand the

[3:32:22] immediate drafting and

[3:32:23] enactment a permanent

[3:32:25] wellfield protection ordinance

[3:32:26] as written directly into our

[3:32:27] local development regulations

[3:32:29] under florida senate bill 4,

[3:32:32] 8, 4, we're done with them in

[3:32:33] a straight-up delays study

[3:32:34] task force or legally risky

[3:32:34] moratoriums that multi million

[3:32:37] dollar developer lawsuits. I

[3:32:38] really did initial pending

[3:32:39] ordinance doctor and you have

[3:32:42] the legal authority right now

[3:32:44] to officially announce your

[3:32:44] job and these actions

[3:32:45] instantly freezing any new

[3:32:45] hyperscale data applications

[3:32:48] from seeping into our borders.

[3:32:49] The political line in the sand

[3:32:50] is down today. The community

[3:32:51] is tracking exactly into the

[3:32:55] stands. Stacey motion. More

[3:32:57] for you nbc to specifically

[3:32:58] state that the construction of

[3:32:59] data centers will not be

[3:33:00] allowed anywhere northward and

[3:33:05] that is all have right. Thank

[3:33:09] >> request a give it a shot

[3:33:10] then.

[3:33:13] >> see what everybody thinks

[3:33:14] make a motion to direct city

[3:33:20] attorney. In the process

[3:33:22] drifting strong regulation

[3:33:22] that addresses the issues

[3:33:26] water our air quality and

[3:33:26] regarding data centers in the

[3:33:29] city of port and to provide

[3:33:30] monthly updates to the

[3:33:31] commission and public

[3:33:34] meetings.

[3:33:34] >> it read it one more time

[3:33:40] please.

[3:33:40] >> we can to direct city

[3:33:42] attorney to begin the process

[3:33:46] of drafting strong regulations

[3:33:47] that address the issues of

[3:33:50] water, our air quality and

[3:33:50] noise regarding data centers

[3:33:53] in the city of port and to

[3:33:55] provide monthly updates to the

[3:33:55] commission in a public

[3:33:57] meeting.

[3:34:01] >> second that motion.

[3:34:02] >> have a motion on the floor

[3:34:05] made by commissioner stokes

[3:34:06] seconded by vice mayor was

[3:34:18] there any discussion. Passes 5

[3:34:32] to 0. Motion. I'd like to make

[3:34:38] where this to make the motion.

[3:34:44] To have the city attorney.

[3:34:46] Look into as the citizens put

[3:34:47] like to have the city attorney

[3:34:48] looking into the well

[3:34:52] protections under sb 4.84. And

[3:34:53] see what the legalities are on

[3:34:57] moving forward.

[3:35:00] >> we have a motion on the

[3:35:00] floor to instruct city

[3:35:05] attorney to a value way.

[3:35:07] >> so well field protections

[3:35:11] could you under sb 44 under sb

[3:35:13] 4.84 and bring that back to

[3:35:14] the commission. If you need

[3:35:25] show. Second

[3:35:26] >> that motion has been

[3:35:28] seconded by commissioner stow

[3:35:29] still want to read that back

[3:35:32] to a city clerk to to direct

[3:35:34] the city attorney to evaluate

[3:35:36] wellfield protections under sb

[3:35:37] 44 and provide an update to

[3:35:41] mission public meeting. There

[3:35:43] is nothing more to do let's

[3:35:50] foe.

[3:35:55] That motion passes 5 to 0.

[3:35:55] >> I want to show another

[3:36:05] motion she was just back to me

[3:36:06] >> to city attorney to look

[3:36:10] the county. For to see how it

[3:36:13] can be up late. To our city

[3:36:18] give us

[3:36:19] feedback. Give feedback to the

[3:36:20] commission how to proceed.

[3:36:26] Second that. And when.

[3:36:27] >> we have a motion on the

[3:36:28] floor made by commissioner

[3:36:28] petro city clerk and you read

[3:36:30] that back please.

[3:36:35] >> he said the lucia county to

[3:36:36] direct the city attorney to

[3:36:37] evaluate the bliss a county

[3:36:38] ordinance and see how it can

[3:36:38] be acceptable to port and

[3:36:39] provide an update to

[3:36:42] commission a public meeting.

[3:36:43] >> thank you that was made

[3:36:45] commissioner petro seconded by

[3:36:46] commissioner stills there's

[3:36:47] nothing to the committee's

[3:36:59] vote. And passes 5 to 0. And

[3:37:00] anything else commissioners on

[3:37:07] this topic.

[3:37:07] >> we've got a we've been here

[3:37:08] for about an hour and a half

[3:37:09] we're going to take about 10

[3:37:31] >> and brandon what do you

[3:37:32] listen to this listen to my

[3:37:33] cpr plus what's on that

[3:37:37] staying alive.

[3:37:38] >> I'm zach and this is travis

[3:37:39] from north port fire rescue.

[3:37:42] >> and I'm brandon. And this

[3:37:47] is brad from the north port

[3:37:51] aquatic center.

[3:37:55] >> 26 regarding process for

[3:37:56] commission haitian of all

[3:37:59] around the globe nondisclosure

[3:38:00] agreements and this was

[3:38:03] requested by commissioner

[3:38:04] stavros I'm just going to

[3:38:05] fostering go straight to

[3:38:11] commissioner are. Well.

[3:38:12] >> so wait little bit of

[3:38:13] background I nondisclosure

[3:38:13] agreements are used everywhere

[3:38:18] every use. Private sector that

[3:38:20] in the public sector they are

[3:38:20] there for the purpose

[3:38:21] protecting proprietary

[3:38:26] information they make sense, I

[3:38:29] mean even commissioner a

[3:38:32] project and he is entitled to

[3:38:33] it and his proprietor

[3:38:34] interests in plans should

[3:38:39] protected that said I do not

[3:38:41] believe any elected any

[3:38:45] government anywhere should

[3:38:45] ever not know what's going and

[3:38:47] for that every commissioner

[3:38:51] should be read every nba that

[3:38:54] comes before the ones that are

[3:38:57] in forward in the future.

[3:38:58] Appreciate the fact that when

[3:39:04] we're ready that

[3:39:05] >> that due to my fellow

[3:39:06] commissioners open up this

[3:39:08] discussion and see where we go

[3:39:09] because we do need to fix this

[3:39:12] problem.

[3:39:12] >> commissioner petro your

[3:39:20] first. Vice mayor you are and

[3:39:27] then yes, thank you

[3:39:28] >> city attorney. Could you

[3:39:28] briefly comment on the

[3:39:30] legality of and da's.

[3:39:37] >> there's nothing inherently

[3:39:37] illegal. You know the schools

[3:39:44] are granted. There is statue

[3:39:47] that are in the a's to rise

[3:39:51] and section 2 88.4 7, 5,

[3:39:52] florida statues for that is an

[3:39:54] exemption. To the general

[3:39:59] public workers requirement is

[3:40:02] that records themselves.

[3:40:06] Considering sending 4 year.

[3:40:07] And for things are days that

[3:40:14] could be extended and so

[3:40:16] that's where you were has

[3:40:18] spent but I what standards are

[3:40:25] and then the going have say. I

[3:40:31] think probably is and what was

[3:40:39] for dollar meant to extended,

[3:40:39] you know just into for all

[3:40:43] stages for lack a better term

[3:40:46] there's illegal about that.

[3:40:49] Florida sunshine first it was

[3:40:53] just going sign it's just a

[3:40:57] matter promising call so you

[3:41:00] all about

[3:41:05] >> I another question.

[3:41:06] >> can the city legally be

[3:41:11] selective. And what kinds of

[3:41:15] projects are situations. Under

[3:41:18] which are in which it well. A

[3:41:22] lot when are not allow and

[3:41:26] then da so I guess more simply

[3:41:27] if someone requests an we

[3:41:30] required to get it and it's

[3:41:35] not under what circumstances.

[3:41:40] >> to go back to statute all

[3:41:41] without statue is general and

[3:41:48] for raises are coming 4.

[3:41:52] That's what the statute

[3:41:58] intended for the nba's go for

[3:42:02] it. So I don't think that we

[3:42:06] would productivity for

[3:42:08] limiting that class of

[3:42:12] businesses that you would

[3:42:12] extend into comply or statute

[3:42:13] in terms public records

[3:42:25] exemptions. And. And so could

[3:42:29] and so you bottle up being the

[3:42:30] is however you want ok so was

[3:42:34] specific in that question.

[3:42:35] >> a data center is allowed

[3:42:39] under our is a and allowed use

[3:42:40] under our industrial

[3:42:45] classification.

[3:42:46] >> if we wanted to ban and the

[3:42:50] a's on data centers.

[3:42:51] >> would we have to do it at

[3:42:55] the industrial classification

[3:42:58] or could we pick and choose

[3:42:58] the title of business or

[3:43:01] situation within that

[3:43:03] classification to either agree

[3:43:04] or disagree to enter into an

[3:43:07] nda with that company.

[3:43:11] >> is so I think you could.

[3:43:17] Decide classification heavy

[3:43:19] and all just want date is you

[3:43:23] get up and your and sole

[3:43:25] always 30 days correct but

[3:43:31] that still nod. The business

[3:43:35] behind the questing. Exemption

[3:43:36] from public records and

[3:43:43] statutes. Do themselves could

[3:43:44] still exempt from public form

[3:43:50] of the law. Other part of that

[3:43:53] has such important for you all

[3:43:57] years where you have not

[3:43:58] there's ethics rule that's

[3:44:04] chapter want prohibit is

[3:44:05] elected officials say chinese

[3:44:10] city for disclosing

[3:44:15] information that is not all

[3:44:15] that was readily available to

[3:44:20] of for personal gain. So in

[3:44:20] circumstances even if you're

[3:44:25] getting the result, story to

[3:44:25] say where the issue came to

[3:44:30] me. The your official duties

[3:44:40] that they was I told him that

[3:44:42] you know that because they

[3:44:44] haven't filed in that case

[3:44:44] because it's just not and I

[3:44:53] told you that. And use that.

[3:44:59] Private your. Status as

[3:45:01] elected official for private

[3:45:07] gain political you sprawl on

[3:45:12] chapter want well and so

[3:45:13] sometimes that says you know

[3:45:14] call whether or there's no

[3:45:18] anyway that's what say.

[3:45:21] >> that he out of water shows

[3:45:26] always the shots are

[3:45:26] everything to gain states as

[3:45:29] commission to playing ball.

[3:45:34] >> and related. From from what

[3:45:39] I understand. Staff signs nda

[3:45:45] with any company. Every member

[3:45:47] of staff and every single

[3:45:47] commissioner is bound by that

[3:45:53] nda is that correct.

[3:45:55] >> I think the nba, you have

[3:45:59] place say for reasons that's

[3:46:03] because out the 80's self care

[3:46:03] about which was commissioned

[3:46:09] in 2020 that essentially

[3:46:10] authorized the manager to

[3:46:11] execute rooms and want send it

[3:46:15] go forward. And so yes down

[3:46:19] tomorrow. Acquiescence into

[3:46:25] law agency. That doesn't mean

[3:46:28] you're aging your ceo turning

[3:46:29] members to go out and do this

[3:46:31] for you and that's how found

[3:46:34] by in kind of what the the

[3:46:43] question present it has okay.

[3:46:45] >> now when you don't have to

[3:46:45] be down JUNE 2 you can take

[3:46:53] that that. Well. Based what

[3:46:54] the product is that we have

[3:46:56] place now that that apply over

[3:46:59] that's what we have.

[3:46:59] >> so.

[3:47:09] >> yeah. This body decides.

[3:47:10] >> that we be reading into

[3:47:15] every nda that the city. Wants

[3:47:21] to has engaged I would

[3:47:22] certainly recommend that we

[3:47:29] signed the nda. Only because I

[3:47:31] have a concern well before I

[3:47:35] go there what's the penalty.

[3:47:38] >> so let's say one of us gets

[3:47:41] information with or without an

[3:47:44] nda. Let's say was an nda.

[3:47:45] >> and we share that

[3:47:49] information. A member of the

[3:47:52] community.

[3:47:54] >> what's the penalty for that

[3:47:55] to the city and the

[3:48:00] individual.

[3:48:10] >> it religion to it statue to

[3:48:11] I presented that second in

[3:48:17] second degree misdemeanor. If

[3:48:19] you do on a think so 30 days

[3:48:23] and up to 30 days in jail. Why

[3:48:24] would you know things of that

[3:48:25] nature so you could be looking

[3:48:30] at joe if you want which is

[3:48:37] time to act. Both the city

[3:48:37] could be looking basement

[3:48:43] which contracts too and get

[3:48:44] outside the school year duties

[3:48:48] as a commissioner violating as

[3:48:49] possible could be looking at

[3:48:50] individual civil liability and

[3:48:53] so it's a double penalty both

[3:48:54] to the city and to the

[3:48:56] individual who discloses the

[3:48:56] information.

[3:49:00] >> possibly, yes, possibly.

[3:49:01] >> okay, I'll yield for now

[3:49:04] thank you for the time.

[3:49:05] >> commissioner spoke city

[3:49:10] attorney I. I get under the

[3:49:14] present agreement and sign

[3:49:15] call it is the commission by

[3:49:16] virtue of agency I would still

[3:49:22] pose vice mayor said that.

[3:49:23] Commissioner should be if we

[3:49:24] decide to go this route that

[3:49:27] all commissioners p not just

[3:49:33] bound by it through through.

[3:49:34] Illegal definition of agency

[3:49:35] but rather actually signed

[3:49:36] nba's so that we are on the

[3:49:38] hope for them and here's the

[3:49:38] other thing I wanted to ask

[3:49:44] you. So. We commissioned let's

[3:49:45] say our panel they do use

[3:49:50] center. And as a good example.

[3:49:51] Had we reading on that and

[3:49:59] down by it. We didn't disclose

[3:50:00] we need to say anything to

[3:50:00] anybody

[3:50:01] about but what we do is

[3:50:06] instruct.

[3:50:06] >> you stay you and your staff

[3:50:08] we instructed city too.

[3:50:15] Relations. To take action.

[3:50:20] With regard to. To the project

[3:50:23] for which. We had a

[3:50:27] confidential information.

[3:50:29] Would that reach of the nba or

[3:50:35] will we be allowed to do that.

[3:50:37] >> mean I didn't say exactly

[3:50:38] as clean as should asking

[3:50:41] you're if you learn about

[3:50:42] something.

[3:50:44] >> and then want to stop

[3:50:48] project can

[3:50:49] >> was that was that was that

[3:50:54] it pretty much the question.

[3:50:55] >> it's a closer question

[3:51:00] again you would be are up is

[3:51:01] that issue that I spoke about

[3:51:02] are you doing that for

[3:51:08] personal are you doing that

[3:51:11] because there is so great good

[3:51:12] that's involved probably good.

[3:51:17] I think you problem. Don't

[3:51:18] think

[3:51:18] that there's anything in the

[3:51:25] he so could say. During that

[3:51:29] would be breach of contract

[3:51:30] >> look about the so so let

[3:51:34] let me restate this. So had we

[3:51:37] all be very have we know how

[3:51:45] this state sen. And directed

[3:51:46] staff to regulations and that

[3:51:54] regulation. Instead to hearing

[3:51:59] you saying we're probably not.

[3:52:00] Homes or not liable under the

[3:52:09] nda. Well with that we bus

[3:52:14] line will asked. Commissioners

[3:52:15] and more of the city to the

[3:52:19] apple again

[3:52:20] cool we question of the school

[3:52:24] and then but the I mean you

[3:52:29] see what I'm asking.

[3:52:29] >> it's a closer question I

[3:52:34] think you're I think you're I

[3:52:35] think the city will probably

[3:52:39] not liable. And it's

[3:52:39] individual commissioner

[3:52:46] probably not labeled either.

[3:52:50] >> got question.

[3:52:54] >> let's say. That we took the

[3:52:54] stand today and we made a

[3:52:58] motion. And we put it back to

[3:53:02] where it only follow state

[3:53:03] statute. The public records

[3:53:03] part you know we go back to

[3:53:07] the original on board. And

[3:53:09] then the it comes in because

[3:53:09] nobody's touched on this part

[3:53:10] of it because not only did the

[3:53:15] commission. Not know about it

[3:53:17] neither did the citizens so

[3:53:17] when nba would happen to come

[3:53:22] in. Holding off on all the

[3:53:26] public records. But would we

[3:53:29] be allowed to discuss up here

[3:53:31] on the dias be agenda item

[3:53:33] saying hey guess what this

[3:53:34] individual has put application

[3:53:37] for x y and z. We want to have

[3:53:38] a discussion on it, but yeah,

[3:53:41] I know public records are

[3:53:42] available. But can discussion

[3:53:43] take place to get to citizens

[3:53:44] on board as early as possible

[3:53:51] as well. A couple months ago

[3:53:54] and there's no clear what the

[3:53:56] attorney general the paintings

[3:54:01] I believe.

[3:54:04] >> 2005 2007 dress that issue

[3:54:10] saying that the public records

[3:54:14] exemption does not shoe show a

[3:54:17] law so what that would be to

[3:54:19] take that concluded state was

[3:54:24] inclusion and then probably

[3:54:29] hearing all of the staff of ad

[3:54:33] about the the problem that you

[3:54:37] MAY get injunction for. But

[3:54:42] again all that because real

[3:54:43] has addressed attorney general

[3:54:47] and those

[3:54:48] >> kind the world as you on

[3:54:49] and just to take it just a

[3:54:50] little bit further and I'm not

[3:54:53] saying that once the

[3:54:54] commission got the information

[3:54:55] they're going to go out and

[3:54:57] blab it all over the place

[3:54:58] let's just say commissioner

[3:54:59] had talk with the citizen

[3:55:01] about hey guess what you know

[3:55:05] casual conversation this is

[3:55:05] what's common. Now a citizenry

[3:55:09] has found out about that out

[3:55:11] there and now they're

[3:55:12] demanding answers and you know

[3:55:13] saying hey we want to talk

[3:55:13] about this then we could put

[3:55:17] it on the agenda to enlighten

[3:55:18] with whatever information we

[3:55:19] have regardless you know

[3:55:21] exempting the public record so

[3:55:24] I'm just trying to get this to

[3:55:25] where we have open playing

[3:55:25] field to work gets everybody

[3:55:34] involved. Possibly in the

[3:55:37] future I'm that clear ones you

[3:55:38] go west turn general. That's

[3:55:41] it's okay point

[3:55:41] >> well when have dinner with

[3:55:45] him haha.

[3:55:47] >> commissioner euro. Thank

[3:55:50] you

[3:55:54] >> I did not prepare for this

[3:55:56] agenda I just want to see

[3:55:57] cussing goals because they

[3:55:59] don't know what nothing on the

[3:56:02] part of the agenda item but it

[3:56:03] kinda for waited a couple

[3:56:04] questions as we. Were

[3:56:12] conversing here. Generally

[3:56:12] speaking that public not a

[3:56:18] bomb nda. Having you know and

[3:56:19] the is a common practice

[3:56:23] course business conducting

[3:56:24] business but

[3:56:28] the government and that and

[3:56:29] specifically protect

[3:56:35] proprietary. Secrets. And it's

[3:56:36] a good point you know with the

[3:56:41] specific. Point that we're

[3:56:42] discussing and it is senate

[3:56:44] right. I think there was so

[3:56:51] much secrecy that. You know we

[3:56:52] but this and you we all but

[3:56:57] this nda. Which is kind of

[3:56:57] ironic project of this

[3:57:01] magnitude. You know the fact

[3:57:01] that all of us.

[3:57:07] Its own rules I can say almost

[3:57:12] certain that it was done

[3:57:13] purpose and by design to this

[3:57:16] commission from this project.

[3:57:20] And all we had to be. We're

[3:57:25] going just over 5. But not.

[3:57:33] And we're here. But I want

[3:57:34] this question. So let's say do

[3:57:38] this that we have to sign. And

[3:57:39] personally as public officials

[3:57:42] or elected officials. By

[3:57:46] contrast to of the state of

[3:57:50] U.S. Constitution. And I think

[3:57:51] probably by the florida

[3:57:52] constitution which have not

[3:57:54] looked into it. I can say all.

[3:57:57] And you know, I'm not going

[3:58:04] sign it. If I had it. Also my

[3:58:06] own. You know, I'm decisions

[3:58:13] so there is a. There is a way

[3:58:14] saying no and yes, my in the

[3:58:16] correct me if I'm wrong. City

[3:58:18] attorney my question now. So

[3:58:22] if we come to that conclusion

[3:58:23] that let let's fold and we've

[3:58:26] opened by majority. Okay we're

[3:58:26] going to have to sign it

[3:58:29] personally. Do we have this

[3:58:30] ability not to sign it

[3:58:35] constitutionally.

[3:58:36] >> I don't think that's

[3:58:36] constitutional question I

[3:58:38] think it's a question for the

[3:58:41] border. 2 to one side not. I

[3:58:47] don't constitutional. And

[3:58:48] that's to deter news for

[3:58:49] correct commissioner us

[3:58:51] constitution not have to sign.

[3:58:52] >> and the way to that's you

[3:58:59] know. Right to. Freedom of

[3:59:00] speech if you will to school

[3:59:04] secret so. Whatever project

[3:59:09] that is it.

[3:59:09] >> so asking would you put

[3:59:14] show speech. What I understand

[3:59:17] question trying to get its.

[3:59:21] Not easy answer.

[3:59:28] >> it's just ask a follow-up

[3:59:31] question to your back to the

[3:59:32] conversation, yes, out keep

[3:59:32] quiet after I get an answer to

[3:59:35] this. But a follow-up.

[3:59:36] >> commissioner petros

[3:59:38] question.

[3:59:42] >> whether or not.

[3:59:44] >> we individually sign and

[3:59:48] then da. My understanding is

[3:59:54] we're to it.

[3:59:54] >> by by virtue of the

[4:00:09] intention. Having is correct.

[4:00:10] >> the last part of sounds are

[4:00:11] somewhat say a project is

[4:00:14] coming and we we change our

[4:00:14] policies. The commissioners

[4:00:19] get ready and whenever every

[4:00:20] time it and the a's executed

[4:00:24] we're notified. And maybe our

[4:00:27] policy is. We should if we're

[4:00:31] going to be ready we should

[4:00:38] sign. But my understanding is

[4:00:40] whether or not we personally

[4:00:40] signed that nda were still

[4:00:44] bound by it.

[4:00:45] >> guess another way of saying

[4:00:46] what you're saying. Vice mayor

[4:00:51] is

[4:00:52] >> if you're not able to know.

[4:01:00] >> once. Not not to be

[4:01:00] disclosed.

[4:01:03] >> so if you are that candice

[4:01:04] co uk is low, so that you

[4:01:10] don't know. So you what to not

[4:01:17] be ready then you can goals

[4:01:18] what you don't know and think

[4:01:19] that's where whole issue about

[4:01:26] being found friend. Who you.

[4:01:27] It's so cold you something you

[4:01:30] don't answer is all for and I

[4:01:37] don't does not well were not

[4:01:42] >> if you decided to use you

[4:01:45] know that the or whatever and

[4:01:52] he said yes there is a space

[4:01:57] and you can't just the entire

[4:01:59] organization has been about it

[4:02:05] is that it of your all about

[4:02:05] including commission. Just you

[4:02:07] can't say something and you

[4:02:09] don't so where we saw a where

[4:02:16] are you. It hold we'll

[4:02:19] resolution whether all.

[4:02:24] >> that specific issue. Go

[4:02:25] ahead and we still got to go

[4:02:28] back know we're heading c.

[4:02:29] >> you mentioned something

[4:02:30] about the legal doctrine of

[4:02:36] agency. So to city signs that

[4:02:37] nda and we don't execute that

[4:02:42] nda. She read it we we MAY be

[4:02:43] best known soon jumping from

[4:02:48] it. Every project. That's

[4:02:51] forth before this say is run

[4:02:56] by commission. The

[4:02:58] administrative approval

[4:03:00] process changes so that every

[4:03:04] single project comes pest is

[4:03:05] poor. We did that become aware

[4:03:09] of projects that MAY well be.

[4:03:09] Covered by so the question

[4:03:14] then if we talk about if we

[4:03:16] share information that was

[4:03:20] that that that were made aware

[4:03:21] of then you know what sort of

[4:03:22] legal jeopardy or is there a

[4:03:25] legal jeopardy. I'm sort of

[4:03:26] seeing where commissioner

[4:03:32] petrus perspective is let's

[4:03:33] just do away with nba's and

[4:03:37] let's just do and reversed the

[4:03:38] administrative approval

[4:03:39] process in the area that

[4:03:42] allows. In minutes straight of

[4:03:50] approval to be without a

[4:03:51] public without transparency

[4:03:53] inclusiveness make every

[4:03:53] project come before the city

[4:03:54] in a public setting so the

[4:03:55] public and the commission

[4:03:57] knows about it. That I don't

[4:04:00] see how anybody has any

[4:04:02] problems anywhere. And the

[4:04:03] only thing that binds any

[4:04:06] information is under the state

[4:04:07] law that that controls public

[4:04:11] records disclosure. That would

[4:04:13] be cleaner and get all off the

[4:04:20] hook and. Spotlight on all

[4:04:21] this stuff. Back to

[4:04:23] commissioner petro thank you

[4:04:24] mayor. You've got ask what I

[4:04:27] was going say.

[4:04:29] >> so let's say for example

[4:04:30] and that's just an example

[4:04:35] data center and the 8. It was

[4:04:35] not appropriate story davis

[4:04:39] that today is right. So when

[4:04:43] the public records request was

[4:04:44] I think the didn't get it

[4:04:45] until like 2 days after the

[4:04:50] exo meaning. The discussion of

[4:04:51] data center which was JULY

[4:04:56] 21st, I believe so. You know

[4:05:01] some the base for example.

[4:05:02] Could you know that location

[4:05:04] maybe it. It's not

[4:05:09] proprietary. But some are

[4:05:11] trying cut rates for example.

[4:05:16] You know. Could be and if we

[4:05:18] had known that is about this

[4:05:23] project we could still do. You

[4:05:23] know talk about it but not

[4:05:26] saying what exactly or. But

[4:05:35] they're more concisely. So

[4:05:36] it's transparent. It should be

[4:05:39] secrets from pollock unless

[4:05:44] it's a proprietary so

[4:05:45] education came in JULY 20 I

[4:05:49] believe. And the the public

[4:05:52] request was still pending.

[4:05:57] Proving the review. She was

[4:06:03] correct me from front row.

[4:06:03] Repressed was asking if there

[4:06:04] is occasional submitted or

[4:06:09] not. That thing proprietor so

[4:06:13] that my question. We shouldn't

[4:06:17] be hiding you know, and you

[4:06:18] read the nba if this data set

[4:06:22] some of them was basic stop

[4:06:25] that was most of it was a

[4:06:26] basic stop. So my question is

[4:06:28] to to concur with commissioner

[4:06:31] storms kind of a because he

[4:06:34] expended to what extent.

[4:06:41] >> and then new should be.

[4:06:41] >> about the entire project

[4:06:42] above everything proprietary

[4:06:52] stall. So that's my question.

[4:06:53] And I guess could discuss the

[4:06:54] actual regulations in a public

[4:06:55] setting for data center. We

[4:07:02] went out disclosing any fender

[4:07:02] develop size of project I'm

[4:07:05] you know that will be

[4:07:05] discussed publicly that we

[4:07:09] would not violated any of nda.

[4:07:10] But specific to this project

[4:07:15] that was cat purpose. In

[4:07:16] citrus, even from the

[4:07:17] commission and that's not

[4:07:18] right and I guess what the

[4:07:20] next agenda item. If it's

[4:07:25] first. The commission would be

[4:07:26] well aware of all the projects

[4:07:27] like this or projects they

[4:07:32] have the 80's. Don't know I

[4:07:33] mean my point very clear but

[4:07:36] so that's where I stand. But

[4:07:38] it's up to the board and I'm

[4:07:41] willing to engaging for that

[4:07:42] discussion. But what conclude

[4:07:48] with this. If there's should

[4:07:48] be specific to extent there's

[4:07:55] and data centers and not vice

[4:07:56] to any community, you know

[4:07:58] it's you know they they come

[4:08:01] almost states virtually where

[4:08:03] the land is a bubble,

[4:08:07] especially cheap went. But 2

[4:08:10] home from the public

[4:08:10] purposefully so they can get

[4:08:13] the application in. I don't

[4:08:14] think it's right I don't think

[4:08:16] it's. Even medical to say the

[4:08:20] least. I think and I made my

[4:08:25] post facebook rant got a lot

[4:08:25] of responses. But I think

[4:08:28] we've to fail to our citizens.

[4:08:31] Overall as a city this.

[4:08:36] Obviously there were some.

[4:08:36] Proprietary secrets that

[4:08:42] should been kept. Over in the

[4:08:42] to that to this extent what we

[4:08:50] did it. I think it's not. As a

[4:08:51] cold to say the least and I

[4:08:52] think we ourselves a

[4:08:53] disservice and the road to

[4:08:55] citizens trust. And the

[4:08:59] public. Officials which part

[4:09:05] of and so. As a government

[4:09:09] overall and in general, and

[4:09:10] I'm not speaking against nba's

[4:09:14] I'm speaking about the actual.

[4:09:14] You know implementation of

[4:09:22] nba's and how treat it. I read

[4:09:26] document that was adopted in

[4:09:27] FEBRUARY of 2021 which not

[4:09:31] part of the board. We can take

[4:09:35] a look at and see to what

[4:09:40] extent we should be bob ended.

[4:09:41] But if you did anything about

[4:09:42] the project helping we be

[4:09:46] bound by nba. Those are my.

[4:09:50] $0.2 I this is the agenda

[4:09:51] that. Commissioner still

[4:09:56] brought it. So I want to hear

[4:09:58] the no further discussion and

[4:09:59] possible motion. What he

[4:10:02] intends to do.

[4:10:04] >> thank you mayor and

[4:10:05] commissioner duval thank you

[4:10:10] >> schools. The city these

[4:10:18] lands. And it really colony.

[4:10:19] >> also goal is services and

[4:10:22] so is. We want to drill for

[4:10:25] oil on city property.

[4:10:29] >> and we wanted to be a. No

[4:10:33] we've been going through I

[4:10:36] would suggest we say no we not

[4:10:42] an nda. As commissioner stolz

[4:10:47] was already alluded to. Got

[4:10:56] the city. Really call because

[4:10:58] here it says I want drill in

[4:10:59] the game. Although the bell

[4:11:05] services tell all the the 5

[4:11:10] commissioners make a decision.

[4:11:12] Whether to keep all if we can

[4:11:17] do to media must also. So

[4:11:22] inclined to say. If you want

[4:11:29] business with the city will

[4:11:35] baseball no reason experience.

[4:11:42] Being the spending I so can

[4:11:46] agree with that.

[4:11:50] >> that's thank you. Vice

[4:11:54] >> yeah just a couple of I

[4:12:00] understand that if. A company

[4:12:02] a business and that he is

[4:12:04] sharing proprietary secrets

[4:12:09] with city staff. I'm hearing

[4:12:10] that there wouldn't be an

[4:12:11] objection necessarily to that

[4:12:19] and ga. But I also know coming

[4:12:21] from a world where and da's

[4:12:22] are in every day a car and

[4:12:23] time out of high tech.

[4:12:28] >> and.

[4:12:33] >> and the a's are just about

[4:12:33] proprietary information when

[4:12:34] and software companies would

[4:12:37] come to us to share their

[4:12:44] business plans. A lot of times

[4:12:46] that in and of itself so not

[4:12:49] technology secrets but their

[4:12:50] business plans because of the

[4:12:53] competitive exposure. Of that.

[4:12:55] >> so.

[4:13:01] >> to connect to the job.

[4:13:02] We're spending as a city a lot

[4:13:05] of effort trying to attract.

[4:13:11] Companies from coming here. We

[4:13:12] want jobs. We we want to

[4:13:15] expand our commercial

[4:13:16] footprint we want to help

[4:13:18] alleviate some of the tax

[4:13:20] burden from homes all of those

[4:13:23] are wonderful things. And if

[4:13:28] we throw and the a's. What

[4:13:29] does that do to the likelihood

[4:13:34] of companies that we all agree

[4:13:35] we want to have come here

[4:13:38] because of the economic

[4:13:38] benefits. But they refused

[4:13:43] because we protect their

[4:13:46] business plans. Let's be real

[4:13:48] careful. What we're trying to

[4:13:49] do here as we could shoot

[4:13:57] themselves both feet. By doing

[4:13:59] this.

[4:13:59] >> and I mean one things that

[4:14:02] has come to my mind and this.

[4:14:04] >> whole thrashing of the

[4:14:09] whole data center thing.

[4:14:12] Personally I believe there's

[4:14:13] some and talking about heavy

[4:14:16] industrial sector. Because I

[4:14:22] think it's those. Time so

[4:14:23] businesses that are most

[4:14:28] likely to have a negative

[4:14:28] impact on the environment all

[4:14:33] all of those things. Maybe

[4:14:34] those of the kinds of

[4:14:40] projects. We don't want to

[4:14:44] shield from the public. So I'm

[4:14:48] just throwing that out as one

[4:14:49] opportunity I I just don't

[4:14:52] think I could support throwing

[4:14:55] out and the a's in a blanket

[4:14:59] way because it very well could

[4:15:00] prevent it. The kinds of

[4:15:01] companies we would all agree

[4:15:04] we want to have come here

[4:15:06] because we won't protect their

[4:15:07] business plans. So let's

[4:15:10] really think carefully about

[4:15:14] how we might want to manage

[4:15:19] and he is and I have couple of

[4:15:21] basic blocking and tackling

[4:15:22] questions around and the a's

[4:15:23] and I say that MISTER Mayor

[4:15:24] men has left which is

[4:15:29] unfortunate. I'm just curious.

[4:15:33] On average how many and the

[4:15:33] a's does the city signed any

[4:15:41] year. And similar to the data

[4:15:43] center I I think we executed

[4:15:44] that nda way in advance of

[4:15:47] actually filing an

[4:15:49] application. So my second

[4:15:51] question is how often does the

[4:15:54] nda and the application kind

[4:15:55] of happened together at or

[4:15:59] within a short period of time.

[4:15:59] And how often does it really

[4:16:05] separated. By length of time

[4:16:06] we saw in the data center

[4:16:10] example, and I see. Missed

[4:16:11] larry is slowly and

[4:16:12] reluctantly coming to the

[4:16:25] podium.

[4:16:25] >> good afternoon lori bonds

[4:16:29] deputy director of development

[4:16:30] services in the last 4 and a

[4:16:31] half years the city has

[4:16:35] entered into 3 different

[4:16:36] nondisclosure agreements, I'm

[4:16:38] one of those projects did not

[4:16:42] progress to the point of a

[4:16:45] formal application. One and

[4:16:48] one is under the nda and we

[4:16:48] don't have information as to

[4:16:51] when they are applying.

[4:16:53] >> generally projects MAY said

[4:16:59] matt. A formal application

[4:17:00] before the expiration of their

[4:17:03] and in my experience by the

[4:17:03] time they get to the formal

[4:17:08] approval. Stage those and the

[4:17:11] a's have generally expired

[4:17:12] imagine trying to conduct

[4:17:15] quasi judicial hearing. For a

[4:17:18] project that is under a

[4:17:19] nondisclosure agreement. So

[4:17:20] usually by the time they are

[4:17:27] ready to. Get to their final

[4:17:27] approval stages. They have

[4:17:30] tied up there and users and.

[4:17:35] Finalize their plans so that

[4:17:38] the need for the nda is no

[4:17:39] longer a pressing right

[4:17:41] because and progress things

[4:17:44] are of locked and the

[4:17:45] opportunity for a competitor

[4:17:49] to come in.

[4:17:50] >> and derail that project is

[4:17:50] over correct okay, thank you

[4:17:56] for that. I'm going to yield

[4:17:57] at this point but I want to

[4:17:59] come back.

[4:18:05] >> stokes.

[4:18:06] >> you know I started by

[4:18:08] saying that you know nba's or

[4:18:09] something that we see in the

[4:18:10] private sector we see in the

[4:18:11] public sector MAY seem to be

[4:18:16] out there. But I do

[4:18:16] fundamental concern and that's

[4:18:17] that I think there's a

[4:18:19] fundamental difference between

[4:18:24] government and private sector.

[4:18:26] Ok, and the difference I see

[4:18:27] is we are elected by were

[4:18:28] elected to represent the

[4:18:31] citizens of this city and for

[4:18:32] any elected body not to know

[4:18:33] what's going on is a big

[4:18:38] problem for me and for anybody

[4:18:39] not to know what's going now I

[4:18:42] appreciate he that are

[4:18:44] reluctant to come do business

[4:18:45] with the city unless they can

[4:18:49] prepare protect their

[4:18:49] proprietary rights but many

[4:18:50] cases it might be they also

[4:18:53] want to protect their idea. So

[4:18:54] that someone else doesn't jump

[4:18:59] in to compete with them. But

[4:19:00] that said I think healthy

[4:19:01] competition is good especially

[4:19:02] when talking about the

[4:19:03] citizens tax dollars that

[4:19:04] we're prepared to maybe spend

[4:19:08] ward contributed to a product.

[4:19:10] So why intend to make a motion

[4:19:11] to do away with and the a's

[4:19:15] and the say and see where sits

[4:19:16] on that because I just don't

[4:19:21] see need for and I think that

[4:19:23] day they contrary to the

[4:19:24] concept of transparency and

[4:19:24] inclusiveness I think we have

[4:19:27] a problem with city and I

[4:19:28] think it's time to start

[4:19:32] fixing some of stuff and this

[4:19:34] is something that if we lose

[4:19:37] the deal here there will also

[4:19:39] be in to be if there's a

[4:19:40] business doesn't want come

[4:19:41] here because they're so zones

[4:19:44] going to compete with to and

[4:19:46] yet they have a primary

[4:19:48] information that they submit

[4:19:51] that's protected in my opinion

[4:19:55] under the state law for public

[4:19:58] records. So they're kind

[4:19:59] project in there, but cost of

[4:20:00] the idea for us not to be able

[4:20:03] to share the and for everyone

[4:20:05] know what just runs contrary

[4:20:07] to the concept of good

[4:20:08] governance and transparent

[4:20:11] governance I mean the sunshine

[4:20:12] laws were passed so that we do

[4:20:16] business behind closed doors.

[4:20:18] And yet because and the a's

[4:20:23] and administrative approvals.

[4:20:24] There's been around here where

[4:20:25] now this stuff can get it done

[4:20:32] behind not only the you know

[4:20:34] that commission's back I just

[4:20:35] think that's a problem and I

[4:20:38] don't use and budget purposely

[4:20:40] doing anything nefarious I

[4:20:42] just think that this is the

[4:20:45] manipulation of legislation

[4:20:46] that's taking place over time

[4:20:46] and we have the ability to fix

[4:20:53] so I say we fix it to where

[4:20:53] nba's and fix the approval

[4:20:56] process thank you commissioner

[4:20:57] petro.

[4:21:04] >> almost and want to could 7

[4:21:08] that I'm not going repeat

[4:21:09] that. But one state kind going

[4:21:15] specifics. Trade secrets think

[4:21:18] that I remember one of the

[4:21:20] economic could open to updates

[4:21:27] we had director said that. You

[4:21:27] know there's still coming to

[4:21:32] this section of our city and

[4:21:32] she said the box store and we

[4:21:33] were like what is it what is

[4:21:35] the thing she said well I can

[4:21:39] say it's a trace it could

[4:21:40] basically time you it's like

[4:21:41] submitting the application

[4:21:45] with the fast food and city or

[4:21:50] whatever. Chain or restaurant.

[4:21:51] Box store. Did I have to

[4:21:58] provide specifics. To that. So

[4:21:59] basically same thing

[4:22:01] commissioner stokes that lets

[4:22:05] get away from them a lot of

[4:22:06] people you know I and they

[4:22:08] want to be protecting thinking

[4:22:10] the plant under different a

[4:22:11] little cnn, nobody always

[4:22:17] cool. To hide it from the

[4:22:20] commission that would be

[4:22:20] prevented from making the

[4:22:24] proper choices or well

[4:22:25] informed decision that I don't

[4:22:27] think it's correct. So. And

[4:22:28] again if you do the business

[4:22:34] with the government. This

[4:22:38] courage to be transparent.

[4:22:40] Because government and 2

[4:22:41] different things and we as

[4:22:45] public officials. Transparency

[4:22:48] that's comes thank you man.

[4:22:52] >> I mayor.

[4:22:56] >> yeah just a couple law

[4:22:59] comments. We all want

[4:23:00] competition our economy is

[4:23:01] built on it we want to have

[4:23:09] choice with shop where to

[4:23:11] we're not. But when a company

[4:23:13] is investing significant

[4:23:14] resources and engineering

[4:23:16] planning building plans.

[4:23:24] >> order to build here. I that

[4:23:26] is a totally different

[4:23:26] situation.

[4:23:31] >> and 2.

[4:23:31] >> protect their business

[4:23:36] plans under an nda it part of

[4:23:37] the reason in addition to

[4:23:41] proprietary information. And

[4:23:46] da's exist. It's to encourage

[4:23:50] that kind development and to

[4:23:53] prevent unfair competition.

[4:23:57] That causes. A company to say

[4:23:58] ok. I'm don

[4:24:05] haha you block my plans all

[4:24:08] creation and now a direct

[4:24:09] competitor of my this

[4:24:10] competing for that same

[4:24:12] property are whatever the

[4:24:12] objection I I kind of agree

[4:24:17] to it.

[4:24:18] >> now a conversation about

[4:24:22] how we might want to modify

[4:24:25] our nda if we decide as a body

[4:24:28] we want to be read into and

[4:24:29] the a's and be to them I'm

[4:24:35] open to that conversation.

[4:24:36] >> I'm sorry I I can support

[4:24:41] throwing out and the a's.

[4:24:42] >> as whole block, it's not in

[4:24:47] the best interest of city. It

[4:24:48] is not in the best interest of

[4:24:49] our economic development is

[4:24:55] not in the best interest. Here

[4:24:57] and helping to soften the tax

[4:24:58] burden on homeowners I cannot

[4:25:02] it. I yield.

[4:25:05] >> commissioner ball know

[4:25:14] thank you the boulder. Coast

[4:25:21] to the city. And we say to if

[4:25:23] you had a prior period

[4:25:23] information.

[4:25:25] >> you do not want make

[4:25:30] schools that do not all. If

[4:25:36] you do not or questions. In

[4:25:42] your application process.

[4:25:43] Gives all safeguards. We need

[4:25:45] for our community that we will

[4:26:00] decline replication.

[4:26:01] >> and brief and make it very

[4:26:02] brief because removing on

[4:26:10] emotions. Thank you mayor.

[4:26:16] >> few minutes ago hearing

[4:26:17] that for as long anybody can

[4:26:20] remember there's been.

[4:26:23] >> 3 and the a's and I would

[4:26:24] say if we have the least known

[4:26:26] about one of them. Our

[4:26:30] situation today might be

[4:26:31] slightly different. So I know

[4:26:32] probably couldn't said it

[4:26:34] better MISTER Duvall just said

[4:26:38] and so you know I stand firmly

[4:26:39] behind my position anyway

[4:26:46] that's it essentially brought

[4:26:46] city manager weaker and I

[4:26:47] think larry was up here and

[4:26:49] she currently we have to. Nda

[4:26:55] is in place currently. And

[4:26:56] that would it always up 30th

[4:27:00] and we will not be exercising

[4:27:01] the right to extend that based

[4:27:02] on today's conversation and

[4:27:02] will give you that information

[4:27:06] as well.

[4:27:08] >> okay because the reason I

[4:27:10] ask is because commissioner

[4:27:13] starts when we started this

[4:27:14] said that. Commissioner petros

[4:27:17] brother was involved in one.

[4:27:18] The reason I'm asking about

[4:27:21] that was that. What I was

[4:27:22] reading about in your

[4:27:26] valuation. That's going to

[4:27:33] come out yes the 22nd because

[4:27:34] there are some very serious

[4:27:35] stuff and that and I think

[4:27:36] we're going to have a

[4:27:39] discussion on that on the

[4:27:40] 22nd.

[4:27:45] >> yes, there project you know

[4:27:50] based on what you hear today.

[4:27:52] >> more going to be inability

[4:27:52] to respect what they are what

[4:27:55] they do so those things I

[4:27:55] don't think today is the time

[4:27:58] to discuss that part of it so.

[4:28:05] >> open it up for a motions.

[4:28:06] >> from a family sent a

[4:28:10] followed by sam samuel place

[4:28:17] of rest him ours.

[4:28:21] >> take discussion across the

[4:28:22] >> city attorney thank you

[4:28:24] because you have a lot of this

[4:28:25] stuff. Lot of questions asked

[4:28:29] you I was going stay as well

[4:28:29] so get rid of half of my

[4:28:31] comment which is great. You

[4:28:32] know you guys have that

[4:28:36] discretion. Whether you want

[4:28:36] to do an nda or you don't want

[4:28:41] to do an nda.

[4:28:42] >> you have the discretion to

[4:28:43] just make an ordinance that is

[4:28:44] within the commission's

[4:28:44] purview.

[4:28:46] >> to make that decision you

[4:28:48] can take it away

[4:28:49] administratively and put it in

[4:28:53] your pool of curfew. And the

[4:28:55] a's are all over the place so

[4:28:56] yeah, maybe sometimes an nda

[4:28:58] is ok depending upon what type

[4:28:58] of nda and what they're asking

[4:29:01] for. And that again is in with

[4:29:05] discretion. You know the only

[4:29:06] way to handle it that I'm

[4:29:11] saying. Take it away

[4:29:12] administratively and put it in

[4:29:14] the purview of the commission

[4:29:14] and it has to come before you

[4:29:17] whether you want to do. You

[4:29:18] know do want to with this

[4:29:22] particular business you don't.

[4:29:23] So one of choices taken away

[4:29:23] permanently or use your

[4:29:26] discretion. That's your

[4:29:41] purview. Thank you

[4:29:43] >> under transparency laws

[4:29:44] like chapter 1, 1, 9 public

[4:29:45] records act and sunshine the

[4:29:49] rule is absolute city manager

[4:29:52] or staff member can signed a

[4:29:52] private contract that ever

[4:29:58] stay realities of passes all

[4:30:02] city manager and city staff

[4:30:04] includes private developer

[4:30:07] utility provider center

[4:30:08] corporation as a city manager

[4:30:09] economic development director

[4:30:13] sign an nda before presenting

[4:30:13] a project that agreement

[4:30:15] cannot bypass public. Records

[4:30:22] request. The custodian of

[4:30:23] records the city manager and

[4:30:26] staff custodians of the

[4:30:28] public's information and

[4:30:29] tractor one 19 any document

[4:30:31] text message or email

[4:30:35] generated by city manager or

[4:30:36] staff any business

[4:30:37] automatically becomes public

[4:30:43] record. Commissioner end of

[4:30:43] the year should you spoke to

[4:30:51] us to time keep look at

[4:30:52] because you are and then the

[4:30:53] second that is that would be

[4:30:59] close afternoon.

[4:31:04] >> your tell you.

[4:31:04] >> that MISTER Starts

[4:31:05] commissioner stops for good me

[4:31:10] correct sir. MISTER Duvall

[4:31:11] commissioner default forgive

[4:31:13] me, I'm sorry you're correct

[4:31:16] as well know, you to have

[4:31:20] child you right here that the

[4:31:21] city manager years as a order

[4:31:24] to keep that information from

[4:31:27] the diocese are really that

[4:31:28] stupid that we just have the

[4:31:29] stand that we elected

[4:31:37] officials todd. So they're

[4:31:41] trying to sit there and show.

[4:31:51] The top sent not that MAY

[4:31:56] cause your very disrespectful

[4:32:06] mentioned you has this is not

[4:32:13] private enterprise we knew it.

[4:32:16] Responsibility is center not

[4:32:20] it does nets. Led it that's

[4:32:22] just a fact that's what law

[4:32:29] is. If you want to the in the

[4:32:30] beginning everybody what be

[4:32:32] here listening to an hour of

[4:32:32] trade at.

[4:32:33] >> when you can literally look

[4:32:34] it up and find out what the

[4:32:35] law is I yield my time. Thank

[4:32:45] you.

[4:32:46] >> well I don't believe and

[4:32:47] the a's are extremely bad

[4:32:51] business they. Make people

[4:32:52] feel that there's something

[4:32:55] bad about it that you're

[4:32:56] hiding something it is just

[4:32:57] poor business practice. And

[4:33:03] instead I really do believe

[4:33:03] that all applications we

[4:33:04] should have the ability to

[4:33:05] review the application to make

[4:33:08] sure it's it's compliant. It's

[4:33:11] a far company our community

[4:33:11] that something we want with

[4:33:13] our community I think there's

[4:33:14] anything technology wise or

[4:33:15] otherwise that is anything

[4:33:16] surprising nowadays. But I

[4:33:19] would like to recommend that

[4:33:21] instead that will you reject

[4:33:23] the ability to use in da's

[4:33:24] that you allow applicant under

[4:33:29] florida statute, one 19 the

[4:33:29] ability to request the

[4:33:32] redaction of their name their

[4:33:32] address and other information

[4:33:35] so just give them an ability

[4:33:36] if they want to propose an

[4:33:36] application just given the

[4:33:38] ability redact information

[4:33:39] names are banking anything

[4:33:43] under section one 19. This way

[4:33:44] and allows the community to

[4:33:45] still know about the project

[4:33:46] investigate we've lost a

[4:33:48] year's worth the time.

[4:33:50] Developing. Environmental

[4:33:53] controls to protect us and

[4:33:57] this whole nda thing. Has

[4:33:58] really tainted this commission

[4:34:00] that really has for the

[4:34:01] community, it's very very sad.

[4:34:02] So it's poor business practice

[4:34:03] and I think it needs to be

[4:34:04] abolished and eliminate that

[4:34:15] thank you I thank you.

[4:34:16] >> panto cars in the core

[4:34:18] someone offer the workaround

[4:34:19] this is procedure it's not

[4:34:24] with the ordinance what if the

[4:34:24] city manager just had during

[4:34:28] his one-on-one conversations

[4:34:29] with you hey I think it might

[4:34:33] be a good idea if the

[4:34:33] commissioner decides the

[4:34:34] commission decides to maybe

[4:34:36] discuss data centers because

[4:34:37] at the time back in FEBRUARY

[4:34:38] or MARCH it was starting to be

[4:34:40] a hot topic with the arcadia

[4:34:43] this way the city manager

[4:34:44] does not violate his nba that

[4:34:49] he had signed you guys don't

[4:34:50] anything is coming but you

[4:34:51] could have the conversation

[4:34:53] because it was already out in

[4:34:54] the public regarding data

[4:34:55] centers and what they wanted

[4:34:58] to do if they came to port. I

[4:34:59] will give also another example

[4:35:03] about why and the a's are gut.

[4:35:04] City managers also stated, I'm

[4:35:05] sorry to pick MISTER Fletcher

[4:35:09] but this is a good one that he

[4:35:09] would like to see something

[4:35:14] like maybe of a minor league.

[4:35:15] Hockey team come that topic on

[4:35:17] the philadelphia flyers is a

[4:35:20] big flyers so what there was

[4:35:21] no nda and everyone got

[4:35:24] excited because hey guess what

[4:35:25] flyers are coming there teams

[4:35:26] coming and what not something

[4:35:29] felt the road. Then now we

[4:35:32] have a whole bunch of upset

[4:35:33] residents because there was

[4:35:34] something that fell through

[4:35:35] when they knew what it was

[4:35:37] let's just off key example,

[4:35:38] but it's also something is

[4:35:41] what would happen. And then

[4:35:46] debbie mcdowell he's submitted

[4:35:48] a comment she wanted this let

[4:35:49] the commission know that the

[4:35:52] commission can direct the city

[4:35:54] attorney to reach out to the

[4:35:55] attorney general for specific

[4:35:57] ruling on this matter

[4:35:59] regarding the commission being

[4:35:59] down by an nda and how the nba

[4:36:03] applies to the commission.

[4:36:04] >> the attorney general will

[4:36:06] answer if the board gives

[4:36:06] direction and I apologize if

[4:36:07] that's something that

[4:36:08] commissioner emrich should

[4:36:09] also because I don't know when

[4:36:09] this came during the

[4:36:10] conversation because it thank

[4:36:12] you.

[4:36:19] >> and for or to use

[4:36:21] nondisclosure agreements in a

[4:36:22] way transparency the best

[4:36:23] PRESIDENT And elected

[4:36:24] officials from knowing what is

[4:36:24] being discussed on matters

[4:36:25] affecting our community. I

[4:36:29] would support just them and

[4:36:33] forced the language to

[4:36:33] accomplish mess that's I

[4:36:34] understand the florida certain

[4:36:35] confidential information how

[4:36:35] nda should never be used to

[4:36:36] circumvent florida's public

[4:36:38] records and open government

[4:36:39] requirements for ticket

[4:36:40] information from the public

[4:36:42] simply because a private party

[4:36:44] confident reality. The reason

[4:36:46] situation demonstrates why is

[4:36:49] important. Residents struggle

[4:36:49] to obtain information about

[4:36:50] major potential development

[4:36:53] while was in place. That's

[4:36:55] concern that's concern every

[4:36:56] taxpayer projects that could

[4:36:57] affect our water supply to see

[4:36:58] them and infrastructure

[4:37:00] environment neighborhoods

[4:37:00] traffic happening taxes

[4:37:04] deserve transparency from the

[4:37:04] beginning. I estimate the

[4:37:05] commission not to create a

[4:37:06] process that normalizes are

[4:37:09] encouraged and the a's for

[4:37:11] city business. At a minimum,

[4:37:12] no restricting information

[4:37:13] that is legally required to be

[4:37:15] public prevent commissioners

[4:37:16] from receiving information

[4:37:16] necessary to perform their

[4:37:17] duties or prevent timely

[4:37:20] disclosure to residents.

[4:37:21] Government works for the

[4:37:21] public not private developers

[4:37:25] consultants and other party

[4:37:26] seeking confidentiality.

[4:37:27] Residents are ability and the

[4:37:29] ability jail. Participate in

[4:37:33] decisions based on incomplete

[4:37:34] information. Please vote no to

[4:37:35] allowing andy is to be used to

[4:37:35] limit public transparency or

[4:37:40] accountability. So the other

[4:37:41] commissioner should be made

[4:37:42] aware all unable to decide

[4:37:43] whether the information should

[4:37:46] be kept secret or disclosed.

[4:37:46] Officials of the city should

[4:37:50] make these determinations. Not

[4:37:53] a and should be banned

[4:37:53] outright this is dealings in

[4:37:54] the dark and has no place in

[4:37:58] legitimate representative city

[4:38:00] governments 7 men get that's

[4:38:01] you haven't got here and how

[4:38:03] nba was born in a nutshell

[4:38:04] florida statute 1, 6, 6.0 2

[4:38:04] want to clarify public

[4:38:06] interest to earth in our

[4:38:13] state, a and state. I a statue

[4:38:14] 2 88.0 7, 5, gives permission

[4:38:15] for confidentiality for

[4:38:15] proprietary information

[4:38:17] related to growth to a

[4:38:21] business in 2021 the

[4:38:22] commission approved on consent

[4:38:23] the use of a template for city

[4:38:26] manager to sign the agreement

[4:38:28] city charter section 9.0 out

[4:38:29] of the city manager the

[4:38:30] authority to sign off on

[4:38:32] tracks agreements and

[4:38:34] applications for the city

[4:38:35] actors such has been approved

[4:38:37] by the city commission at a

[4:38:38] regular or special city

[4:38:38] commission meeting hindsight

[4:38:41] is an amazing teacher I have

[4:38:43] to wonder does that like that

[4:38:44] charters something to ponder

[4:38:47] and easy fix to the nba versus

[4:38:48] charter issue is to remove the

[4:38:50] city manager's ability to sign

[4:38:51] future and the this way

[4:38:53] there's no doubt it the

[4:38:54] charter, however, the next

[4:38:56] thing to ponder what's the

[4:38:57] point of an idea the

[4:38:58] commission is required to make

[4:39:00] decisions and a public meeting

[4:39:01] I'm not too sure commission

[4:39:03] will approve an agreement with

[4:39:04] actions but it still allows

[4:39:05] the business that ability to

[4:39:09] have an nti if the commission

[4:39:10] approved at this deserves

[4:39:11] further discussion and input

[4:39:12] from the city attorney

[4:39:13] tonight, the commission MAY

[4:39:14] want to direct the city

[4:39:16] attorney to conduct a legal of

[4:39:16] whether the city manager made

[4:39:17] her feature and the a's on of

[4:39:21] the city's charter once legal

[4:39:21] review is complete the

[4:39:24] commission should discuss the

[4:39:26] findings following the chart

[4:39:27] takes priority transparency is

[4:39:27] paramount along with

[4:39:28] commission and citizen

[4:39:33] involvement. That women have

[4:39:34] commissioners of the cm does

[4:39:36] not have to notify them we the

[4:39:37] people the residents of north

[4:39:37] port we are a city of the

[4:39:38] commissioners are elected by

[4:39:41] asked to represent us how

[4:39:42] could any commissioner for

[4:39:44] this is the very definition of

[4:39:45] taxation without

[4:39:46] representation, not acceptable

[4:39:47] just like the data centers if

[4:39:48] allowed to destroy everything

[4:39:50] that israel florida. We don't

[4:39:53] want our city painter and talk

[4:39:54] our health is at risk our

[4:39:54] water supply, energy grid

[4:40:00] clean air achieve anything.

[4:40:01] Craig mission I want to raise

[4:40:02] concerns regarding city staff

[4:40:03] entering into non-disclosure

[4:40:04] agreements without prior

[4:40:06] knowledge or consent of the

[4:40:07] city commission. My concern is

[4:40:10] not whether an nda

[4:40:12] occasionally survey legend

[4:40:14] legitimate city my concern to

[4:40:15] have the right to make that

[4:40:15] decision under what

[4:40:16] circumstances and whether that

[4:40:19] kind of illinois cities are

[4:40:19] interested conducting the

[4:40:21] day-to-day business of the

[4:40:23] city but there's a significant

[4:40:24] difference chamber routine

[4:40:25] administrative work and

[4:40:25] entering into an agreement

[4:40:26] that might restrict what

[4:40:27] information can be shared with

[4:40:29] the public or even with their

[4:40:30] elected representatives. The

[4:40:30] city commission is accountable

[4:40:31] to the voters on election

[4:40:36] staff should not have on track

[4:40:37] enter into confidentiality

[4:40:38] agreements on behalf of the

[4:40:38] city without their policies

[4:40:39] limitations and oversight

[4:40:41] established by the commission

[4:40:42] at a minimum I believe

[4:40:43] commission establish a formal

[4:40:46] policy requiring want clearly

[4:40:47] defined circumstances under

[4:40:48] which makes to nba on behalf

[4:40:51] of the city to review and

[4:40:53] approval by city attorney for

[4:40:54] execution 3 proper

[4:40:55] notification of the city

[4:40:58] commission whenever an nda is

[4:40:59] executed, including its

[4:41:00] general and the parties

[4:41:01] involved to fullest extent

[4:41:05] like legally permissible for

[4:41:06] commission approval for

[4:41:06] executing nba's involving

[4:41:07] major economic development

[4:41:09] projects, significant

[4:41:10] infrastructure demands, public

[4:41:11] incentives are matters likely

[4:41:13] to come before the commission

[4:41:14] for future action transparent.

[4:41:19] You should be the

[4:41:20] confidentiality should be no

[4:41:21] going to find exception and

[4:41:22] there should always be

[4:41:22] accountability for who

[4:41:25] authorized and watt I'm asking

[4:41:27] the commission to establish

[4:41:28] cartels rather than leaving

[4:41:29] the only to the discretion of

[4:41:33] an al elected staff. Just I do

[4:41:34] not believe any commissioner

[4:41:35] should be allowed to sign an

[4:41:36] nda that keeps information

[4:41:38] away from citizens. For us.

[4:41:40] Could you imagine an employee

[4:41:41] of year signing an nda said

[4:41:42] you couldn't know what they

[4:41:43] were up to it is insane to me

[4:41:43] that this would even be

[4:41:50] allowed to happen. Was not

[4:41:51] asked remember every minute

[4:41:52] facts, port residents women

[4:41:54] shouldn't be differently be

[4:41:55] transparent upfront and honest

[4:41:55] no one is like no one likes

[4:42:01] deception. See you I support

[4:42:02] commissioners and residents

[4:42:03] deserve more transparency,

[4:42:04] especially when major

[4:42:06] development the cetacean not

[4:42:07] the main agreements that keep

[4:42:08] important information from the

[4:42:09] public without commission at

[4:42:12] least knowing makes este if

[4:42:13] project that could

[4:42:14] significantly impact our

[4:42:15] community residents deserve as

[4:42:15] much transparency as legally

[4:42:20] possible. Mary matalin. And

[4:42:26] you to be sure commissioners.

[4:42:27] Facing an indication sounds

[4:42:29] like a step toward

[4:42:30] transparency simply notifying

[4:42:31] the commission is a

[4:42:32] dangerously weak approach that

[4:42:34] still legitimate eyes is

[4:42:36] corporate deals in our city

[4:42:37] massive tech developers try to

[4:42:39] sneak into our neighborhoods

[4:42:40] high impact industrial

[4:42:41] center's they use aggressive

[4:42:41] nda is to keep the public

[4:42:42] completely in the dark until

[4:42:45] it's too late, merely

[4:42:46] establishing process to notify

[4:42:46] city leadership that a secret

[4:42:48] agreement exists does not ups.

[4:42:49] Absolutely nothing to stop the

[4:42:52] secrecy of self we must push

[4:42:55] back against any allies do not

[4:42:55] just want our commissioners to

[4:42:57] be notified when a corporation

[4:43:01] for we want ban on non

[4:43:02] disclosure agreements between

[4:43:03] public officials and private

[4:43:04] developers are local

[4:43:04] government should operate with

[4:43:07] absolute transparency letting

[4:43:08] predatory developers by our

[4:43:09] city staff were elected

[4:43:12] leaders to a level quickly

[4:43:13] secrecy distress, public trust

[4:43:13] and leaves residents

[4:43:14] vulnerable to hit in an

[4:43:17] environmental and

[4:43:17] infrastructure. Cost demand

[4:43:19] absolute transparency, not

[4:43:22] just medication. Stacey

[4:43:23] mention. Commissioner should

[4:43:25] be informed of any existing

[4:43:26] nba's nda should not be

[4:43:27] tolerated in north port, the

[4:43:28] residents deserve the right to

[4:43:28] be informed at all times and

[4:43:33] that's on there.

[4:43:36] >> and request a mayor.

[4:43:40] commissioner think first I

[4:43:46] want

[4:43:47] >> make a motion to direct

[4:43:50] staff to draft an ordinance to

[4:43:51] bring back to commission for

[4:43:51] first reading to do away with

[4:43:52] and the a's in the city

[4:43:57] of north port.

[4:43:58] >> second for discussion I

[4:44:00] have a motion on the floor

[4:44:02] made commissioner stokes

[4:44:03] seconded by vice mayor and

[4:44:08] vice mayor you want like to.

[4:44:10] >> propose.

[4:44:17] >> that. Struck city turning

[4:44:20] to prepare ordinance

[4:44:21] eliminating administrative

[4:44:25] approval of an nda is and

[4:44:27] require that city commission

[4:44:27] decide whether or not to

[4:44:31] permit the city to engage in

[4:44:31] nda with appropriate

[4:44:32] information redacted

[4:44:34] including.

[4:44:39] >> company name.

[4:44:41] >> perspective city location

[4:44:44] industry industry segment

[4:44:45] applications and products and

[4:44:46] other appropriate business and

[4:44:53] technical details.

[4:44:54] >> question there. Yes,

[4:44:54] discussion that's what we're

[4:45:02] doing that were occur.

[4:45:03] Commission would have to under

[4:45:07] the sunshine discuss

[4:45:08] everything about the proposed

[4:45:12] project for which nda is being

[4:45:15] requested which undermine the

[4:45:15] entire concept of the nba in

[4:45:16] the first place so I'll see

[4:45:21] how that is even practical.

[4:45:22] >> possibility absolutely

[4:45:25] discussing so.

[4:45:27] >> I was laid out that kind of

[4:45:27] information that would be

[4:45:33] redacted. And the conversation

[4:45:39] which would protecting.

[4:45:40] >> the.

[4:45:40] >> business and technology

[4:45:43] plans of the company with the

[4:45:45] ability of this commission to

[4:45:53] say. Whether or not it should

[4:45:54] move MAY I ask a question and

[4:45:57] city attorney would it be

[4:46:03] possible. Is there any

[4:46:03] conflict with existing

[4:46:08] legislation. For the city

[4:46:12] commissioners to have that

[4:46:13] information but to read at

[4:46:27] that information public

[4:46:35] >> I do I do think so. Again

[4:46:40] problem I I'm trying to

[4:46:43] >> is if this body has an

[4:46:43] opportunity to save the

[4:46:45] details of an nda.

[4:46:51] >> and.

[4:46:51] >> just as an example, it's a

[4:46:52] heavy industrial project.

[4:46:58] That. Based on that the

[4:46:59] location of that we would have

[4:47:03] all of those details. We would

[4:47:05] have the information to decide

[4:47:10] well no we really don't think

[4:47:10] it's appropriate for the city

[4:47:13] to enter into an nda with this

[4:47:14] particular project because of

[4:47:20] the possible. Quality of life

[4:47:21] implications, so we would need

[4:47:26] that information. To make an

[4:47:27] informed decision about

[4:47:28] whether or not to move forward

[4:47:34] with an nda. But we have no

[4:47:35] concerns so let's say it's

[4:47:42] simply business company

[4:47:43] doesn't want to be public

[4:47:43] information that they're

[4:47:46] planning to purchase and low

[4:47:50] case at a certain parcel in

[4:47:54] the city. That's in my mind is

[4:47:54] certainly appropriate.

[4:47:57] Protection and we might all

[4:47:59] decide and a public setting.

[4:48:06] To approve that nda with with

[4:48:07] potentially damaging

[4:48:08] information redacted that's

[4:48:11] what I'm trying to.

[4:48:14] >> get to how do we have that

[4:48:15] conversation without share

[4:48:18] that information publicly we

[4:48:20] could do it in one eye was we

[4:48:21] can figure that then we have

[4:48:25] to come here as a body.

[4:48:27] >> to discuss whether or not

[4:48:28] to an acting and on that

[4:48:30] project and the subject of

[4:48:33] that conversation would

[4:48:35] inadvertently or overtly

[4:48:36] disclose information that

[4:48:37] would be subject to the nba.

[4:48:41] It's just not practical

[4:48:43] workable situation, the

[4:48:44] existing legislation that

[4:48:45] exists to protect proprietary

[4:48:46] information that the state has

[4:48:52] mandated. Says it's protect

[4:48:58] and their information.

[4:48:59] >> we don't need and that

[4:49:00] because if they have a private

[4:49:01] or information that can

[4:49:02] disclosed to public records.

[4:49:06] >> we can discuss it. But it

[4:49:09] can't be too slow so in

[4:49:11] protest the I go back to the

[4:49:13] original premise of this whole

[4:49:14] thing which is we are not

[4:49:15] private business. We are the

[4:49:19] government we spend taxpayers

[4:49:21] money. You know work for the

[4:49:21] public we represent the public

[4:49:26] and. We don't know everything

[4:49:28] that's going on and if public

[4:49:29] can't know pretty much

[4:49:31] everything that's going and

[4:49:32] the system's not working the

[4:49:34] way it was intended to it is

[4:49:37] not private business and if

[4:49:40] loses a deal there's only 3 in

[4:49:41] all the time or it could come

[4:49:43] up with so I don't see how

[4:49:48] even real problem and the

[4:49:50] >> came into play look at

[4:49:51] where we are right so I don't

[4:49:56] blame anybody except that.

[4:49:57] >> stan follow the law fall

[4:49:59] the process they did what it

[4:50:01] was they were supposed to and

[4:50:03] what they were allowed to do

[4:50:03] and look at where gas. I say

[4:50:04] get rid of these things

[4:50:05] because they don't serve any

[4:50:06] purpose, the way I see it. But

[4:50:07] anyway that's my take. Thank

[4:50:12] you to me.

[4:50:14] >> most of they're so I guess

[4:50:15] you know anyone thought we got

[4:50:17] a motion we've got a minute

[4:50:18] we've got to go first write

[4:50:18] that.

[4:50:23] >> I mean we get in the

[4:50:23] moment. Propose you did

[4:50:24] propose it as an amendment you

[4:50:29] put that we were in

[4:50:30] discussion.

[4:50:32] >> vote on it there was no

[4:50:34] second on would you like me

[4:50:35] articulate you would have to

[4:50:37] do it

[4:50:40] >> and strapped city attorney.

[4:50:44] To prepare an ordinance

[4:50:44] eliminating administrative

[4:50:52] approval. Of nba's. And

[4:50:52] require that city

[4:50:58] commissioners decide. Whether

[4:50:58] or not to permit the city to

[4:51:03] engage in an nda. Let me know

[4:51:08] when you're there. With

[4:51:09] appropriate information reid

[4:51:10] acted in any public

[4:51:17] conversation. Some of that

[4:51:18] information could include

[4:51:22] company name. Prospective city

[4:51:28] location. Industry segment.

[4:51:33] Application our products. Or

[4:51:34] other appropriate business or

[4:51:49] technical details.

[4:51:50] Thank

[4:51:50] >> have an amendment on the

[4:51:51] floor made by vice mayor

[4:51:59] london do I have a second. I

[4:52:02] do not have a son that second.

[4:52:04] That they'll sue to a lack of

[4:52:04] a second. Now on to the

[4:52:07] original motion. There's

[4:52:17] nothing to please vote. 41

[4:52:22] with vice mayor dissenting.

[4:52:23] >> would like I think that

[4:52:30] this. Decisions severely

[4:52:31] negatively impacts the from

[4:52:32] attracting potential

[4:52:35] businesses. We would want to

[4:52:42] have here. And. Folks it's not

[4:52:46] like beaten down or to come

[4:52:49] here. So do something that

[4:52:50] artificially makes it more

[4:52:56] difficult or impossible. For

[4:52:56] them.

[4:52:57] >> to come here let's face

[4:52:59] these companies have options

[4:53:01] if they're considering a place

[4:53:03] to locate their businesses

[4:53:08] that considering 2 or 3

[4:53:08] locations. So if this says get

[4:53:09] back don't know we've all for

[4:53:16] taft. Your business or

[4:53:18] technical information they

[4:53:19] will go somewhere else and we

[4:53:19] won't get the jobs and we will

[4:53:23] get the tax relief and I'm

[4:53:24] sure there are a lot of people

[4:53:26] in the city that would like

[4:53:30] every bit of building to stop

[4:53:33] today. Sorry we can't legally

[4:53:34] do that all we can do and what

[4:53:39] we are responsible for is to

[4:53:42] make sure that 5 1015 years

[4:53:44] from now we have a city that

[4:53:48] is financially viable and this

[4:53:49] does to us in that

[4:53:55] responsibility. I yield.

[4:54:01] >> moving on to item 26 to

[4:54:01] continue discussion and

[4:54:03] possible action regarding

[4:54:04] reversal of administrative

[4:54:08] approval process with that the

[4:54:09] united unified land

[4:54:13] development code requested by

[4:54:14] commissioner goals.

[4:54:15] >> commissioner still thank

[4:54:18] you mayor. Well. First though

[4:54:23] say that. Administrator for

[4:54:31] approval. Okay, but. The

[4:54:33] concept of administrative

[4:54:35] approval close to the law

[4:54:38] which is if something is

[4:54:38] compliant with the

[4:54:39] comprehensive plan and the

[4:54:44] uldc. Then it can be approved.

[4:54:44] There's no legal justification

[4:54:49] for tonight. And I it going to

[4:54:56] change that. Well prior

[4:55:02] reported which I we voted to

[4:55:04] allow administrative approval

[4:55:06] which created a process

[4:55:07] whereby something could be

[4:55:08] okay because it met with the

[4:55:08] comp plan and the unified land

[4:55:14] development code. For staff.

[4:55:18] What it did was it took away

[4:55:18] and it took away

[4:55:24] inclusiveness. Even it's

[4:55:27] illegal way from a legal

[4:55:28] standpoint, so what proposing

[4:55:29] here and the reason I asked

[4:55:30] for this item on the agenda.

[4:55:35] He said I think. Projects well

[4:55:41] not projects any project. Well

[4:55:43] we have to define which

[4:55:46] projects but to me apartments

[4:55:47] commercial projects pretty

[4:55:49] much anything except

[4:55:49] single-family all kind of

[4:55:50] development should calm

[4:55:53] through commission that not

[4:55:55] just the commission. But the

[4:56:01] public. To know. To provide

[4:56:04] their input their or opinions.

[4:56:10] >> stay still has.

[4:56:11] >> the administrative approval

[4:56:14] process that they have to

[4:56:16] follow it's complying with the

[4:56:17] comp plan what we say it can

[4:56:21] get approved just we shouldn't

[4:56:23] think decisions as an elected

[4:56:25] body without input of staff.

[4:56:31] Public case for us community

[4:56:32] input we should make our

[4:56:32] decisions based on the

[4:56:36] collective been pulled and I

[4:56:36] think the administrative

[4:56:44] approval. Even though we here

[4:56:47] should be collect and I think

[4:56:48] it's important that again for

[4:56:48] the same reason it's

[4:56:55] unfriendly a's. Any time an

[4:56:56] elected does not know what's

[4:57:01] going on that's a problem and

[4:57:04] it is a problem I get people

[4:57:05] saying hey are the corner of

[4:57:08] such and such and such and I I

[4:57:13] have no I don't know anything

[4:57:14] about project before you think

[4:57:15] this is nothing really wanted

[4:57:18] say except that it doesn't

[4:57:18] bode well, know I should you

[4:57:23] know. There's no reason why

[4:57:27] know, and I'm not trying to

[4:57:28] take away. The city's ability

[4:57:30] do what's legal in right now

[4:57:32] the reason this happens so you

[4:57:33] get some perspective in

[4:57:34] history is always with prior

[4:57:38] to getting elected. To a

[4:57:39] product that was brought

[4:57:40] forward before this before the

[4:57:43] commission at that time in

[4:57:44] 2021. Citizens remain

[4:57:46] presentation. Close to 50

[4:57:52] people. Did a beautiful job.

[4:57:53] I'm he's variance or special

[4:57:56] exception. And commissioners

[4:58:01] voted in favor of the citizens

[4:58:04] perspective. 100% opposition

[4:58:13] to the law should word. The

[4:58:15] came up. And required. A

[4:58:19] request for change. And the

[4:58:20] mayor wasn't the mayor at the

[4:58:26] time in my cell photo id to

[4:58:28] allow the applicant pool out

[4:58:31] change much to the chagrin but

[4:58:31] we followed a little because

[4:58:34] we didn't succumb. To public

[4:58:37] will that's what concept

[4:58:40] behind this administrative

[4:58:43] approving protect the city

[4:58:44] from making mistakes that were

[4:58:45] politically motivated treated

[4:58:50] so that I get that we all have

[4:58:52] to follow the law that's the

[4:58:55] first rule follow the

[4:58:56] >> transparency and

[4:59:00] inclusiveness. Runs right side

[4:59:03] and for that reason I think we

[4:59:06] really need to amend ordinance

[4:59:07] straight approval process to

[4:59:11] make sure that all projects

[4:59:12] save single family housing

[4:59:15] developments have to come

[4:59:16] before commission can do so in

[4:59:17] workshop environment state

[4:59:20] we're not going to get but

[4:59:22] they come for where citizens

[4:59:23] can provide public

[4:59:24] commissioners can ask

[4:59:24] questions and step in it's

[4:59:28] for. What they hear from us

[4:59:30] and then they go back in the

[4:59:35] but they MAY well be able to

[4:59:35] do whatever they do with

[4:59:36] benefit of our input and I

[4:59:37] just think that's important.

[4:59:41] So.

[4:59:41] >> but due to commission here

[4:59:49] send us commissioner deval.

[4:59:50] >> must speak your name is

[4:59:57] right there I say the from the

[5:00:00] but thank you vice mayor your

[5:00:02] next yes, thank you. My.

[5:00:07] >> perception of this.

[5:00:07] >> is that it is our job as a

[5:00:10] body to make the rules. And

[5:00:11] it's staff's job to carry them

[5:00:12] out.

[5:00:16] >> and.

[5:00:18] >> I do see our role.

[5:00:22] >> and as. Approving projects

[5:00:31] item. Really don't think I

[5:00:33] want to spend a lot of time

[5:00:34] discussing projects that we

[5:00:39] can impact. I understand and

[5:00:40] and I agree the public has a

[5:00:44] right to know. We do have

[5:00:49] information on our website

[5:00:51] I've gone to a number of times

[5:00:52] when I've a lot cleared and I

[5:00:53] don't know what's going on

[5:00:58] there I go to the map. And I

[5:01:00] find out it's not the easiest

[5:01:02] to use because there are so

[5:01:03] many projects going on in the

[5:01:03] city you can always find the

[5:01:07] one you're looking for. I

[5:01:12] think there's better way then

[5:01:13] having 5 city commissioners

[5:01:18] and staff. Discussing projects

[5:01:22] that meet the rules in order

[5:01:23] to inform the public. I think

[5:01:27] there are other ways if we get

[5:01:29] creative of informing the

[5:01:32] public of what's happening and

[5:01:33] where MAY adding some and not

[5:01:36] going to try to craft a

[5:01:37] solution here. But I think

[5:01:40] there are more efficient and

[5:01:44] effective ways to the public

[5:01:45] of what's happening where then

[5:01:48] to chew up a lot of time

[5:01:53] meetings are expensive. Think

[5:01:55] a lot all the staff that sits

[5:01:57] here listening to opine on on

[5:02:01] all of these matters. I would

[5:02:04] love to do an estimate of what

[5:02:06] every hour of commission

[5:02:09] meeting time cost the city.

[5:02:13] And I'm all when. We're doing

[5:02:19] it to execute. Jobs. And

[5:02:22] ensuring that people get the

[5:02:22] information they need that we

[5:02:23] get the information we need to

[5:02:28] do our jobs. Don't think

[5:02:31] that's discussing. Every

[5:02:34] project minus single-family

[5:02:35] homes that comes before this

[5:02:39] body. I just don't think it's

[5:02:41] an efficient way it's our job

[5:02:42] to come up with the world if

[5:02:45] the rules right then let's

[5:02:48] changeup and then staff's job

[5:02:49] to execute according to those

[5:02:53] rules.

[5:02:58] >> commissioners you first I'm

[5:03:00] not looking to take away. Or

[5:03:06] to approve projects, ok go up

[5:03:06] the pace whether the project

[5:03:07] is compliant with the comp

[5:03:10] plan you will be safe. But

[5:03:11] first of all to address the

[5:03:16] issue of staff's time. With

[5:03:21] all due we represent citizens

[5:03:25] in the city and it all up. I

[5:03:29] just for the life of me you

[5:03:32] know one of the biggest

[5:03:33] problems we seem to have in

[5:03:36] the city is the fact that

[5:03:38] people are you know some

[5:03:40] people anyway are up the

[5:03:42] concern over the fact that

[5:03:44] there is a spotlight shined

[5:03:45] what going especially in light

[5:03:46] of the fact that there's so

[5:03:47] much going on in our city

[5:03:50] presently, and I don't think

[5:03:53] we're wasting anybody's time

[5:03:54] by being able to talk about

[5:03:55] projects that are moving

[5:04:00] through the city and to go

[5:04:03] chase information down on a

[5:04:03] web site away from quarterly

[5:04:05] meeting by the economic

[5:04:06] development department to give

[5:04:09] us a slide presentation a high

[5:04:11] level of what's going on is

[5:04:13] what looking for assistance

[5:04:16] are looking for we want talk

[5:04:17] about apartment building

[5:04:21] corner of and going what we're

[5:04:23] going to do about like that

[5:04:25] you love landscaping and said

[5:04:26] that saying and what are we

[5:04:28] going to make sure there's no

[5:04:30] noise and parking issues

[5:04:31] traffic issues and these are

[5:04:31] the kinds of conversations

[5:04:37] everybody I think

[5:04:39] >> we have because the

[5:04:40] administrative process just

[5:04:40] allows him to grease off

[5:04:43] through because legally a

[5:04:45] lull. We have to follow the

[5:04:47] law keeps saying that but that

[5:04:48] doesn't mean we can't good

[5:04:50] health inc discussions as a

[5:04:52] city and as a commission about

[5:04:54] far as taking too much

[5:04:57] friendly wetzel full-time

[5:05:00] workshop every single I don't

[5:05:02] care all here 7 days a week if

[5:05:02] did do it I just think we've

[5:05:04] got to get better at this

[5:05:05] stuff. And we've got more

[5:05:08] transparent inclusive let's

[5:05:11] really do what it is we say

[5:05:11] what we always say oh trying

[5:05:12] to be transparent inclusion

[5:05:16] but then we I mean like we've

[5:05:22] got fix the things that okay

[5:05:25] I'm looking to break laws I'm

[5:05:26] not going serve stamp some

[5:05:27] authority to approve

[5:05:28] processees that are legally

[5:05:33] allowable but. I the right to

[5:05:35] know what's going and talk

[5:05:36] about it before gets approved

[5:05:38] and I love the citizen's staff

[5:05:39] that same right I don't see

[5:05:40] anything wrong with that at

[5:05:42] all I really just don't. Thank

[5:05:46] you thank you. Vice mayor.

[5:05:51] >> I also view my job as a

[5:05:52] full-time job. But I can see a

[5:05:53] lot better ways of spending my

[5:05:58] time. I love you all and I

[5:06:00] love time we spent together

[5:06:01] but frankly rather engaging

[5:06:05] with the community and sitting

[5:06:06] up here talking about

[5:06:06] something that we cannot

[5:06:11] impact think that there's

[5:06:15] something wrong with the uldc

[5:06:17] if commissioners believe.

[5:06:22] Based community input that

[5:06:23] we're putting apartment

[5:06:24] buildings and higher density

[5:06:27] housing in the wrong place.

[5:06:28] Then let's bring back that man

[5:06:36] out. Talk about talk about the

[5:06:37] landscaping and buffer and

[5:06:39] other requirements that go

[5:06:41] along with that type of

[5:06:42] development that's a healthy

[5:06:46] discussion to have. And

[5:06:47] certainly shares with the

[5:06:51] community thought process

[5:06:53] behind zoning some think a lot

[5:06:56] of times we we look at it was

[5:07:02] chapter 3 it's changeup

[5:07:03] chapter 3 was the zoning what

[5:07:08] we often neglect to look as a

[5:07:09] community. It's chapter 4

[5:07:10] which are all the building and

[5:07:13] set back and all of those

[5:07:14] other requirements that

[5:07:14] commissioner stokes was

[5:07:17] talking about. Again I say if

[5:07:22] if we. And you said your cell

[5:07:25] commissioner if got something

[5:07:28] wrong. We need to address we

[5:07:31] don't have to discuss projects

[5:07:35] at a workshop where we can't

[5:07:37] change anything if we suspect

[5:07:39] something is wrong with our

[5:07:40] rules that let's talk about

[5:07:46] the rules. Its educational for

[5:07:48] the community. Let's look from

[5:07:50] a totality not just the zoning

[5:07:52] not just where we're putting

[5:07:53] but one of the design

[5:07:57] requirements for that tie a

[5:08:01] building. What thought process

[5:08:02] went into protecting

[5:08:03] neighborhoods that are in the

[5:08:05] year you're that kind of

[5:08:06] development that is a

[5:08:08] productive healthy

[5:08:11] conversation for this body to

[5:08:12] have and a situation where we

[5:08:17] can effect change other than

[5:08:19] that rather have with a

[5:08:19] resident of this community

[5:08:25] where we can talk about stuff.

[5:08:26] I've got a wind or whatever

[5:08:28] where I can engage with people

[5:08:29] who live here about their

[5:08:30] concerns and hopes and dreams

[5:08:32] for the city. I yield

[5:08:35] commissioner petro.

[5:08:36] >> I think commissioner stokes

[5:08:41] is trying say need the

[5:08:42] approval his trade approval

[5:08:43] back so we be in the situation

[5:08:47] we're in right basically which

[5:08:50] doesn't require us know all

[5:08:51] the administrative staff what

[5:08:56] the stat us.

[5:08:56] >> thank city clerk public

[5:09:11] comment.

[5:09:13] >> I

[5:09:13] >> think with the

[5:09:14] administrative approval, is

[5:09:15] still operating under senate

[5:09:19] bill 7.84. Me plats. But in my

[5:09:22] research I found. But there is

[5:09:23] an exception to that senate

[5:09:31] bill. That says if it's within

[5:09:32] charter county. That there is

[5:09:32] an exception that the county

[5:09:35] charter would prevail over the

[5:09:39] senate bill. So I don't know I

[5:09:40] haven't had a chance yet to

[5:09:41] look at the county's charter.

[5:09:43] But the question is also i

[5:09:48] know I don't see anything in

[5:09:49] our charter. But if if we were

[5:09:50] to put something within to

[5:09:54] address that particular

[5:09:54] exception.

[5:09:55] >> that would be a question

[5:09:56] for the city attorney to look

[5:09:58] into for the commission. But

[5:10:02] in any event. We can never

[5:10:03] really defined administrative

[5:10:07] boundaries because we could

[5:10:08] define minor versus major

[5:10:11] actions structure land

[5:10:12] development regulations. So

[5:10:14] that only explicit minor

[5:10:18] objective tests are handled

[5:10:18] administratively forcing any

[5:10:19] gray areas are subject is

[5:10:21] interpretations back to a

[5:10:21] public vote before the

[5:10:26] commission. Establish strict

[5:10:27] oversight protocols that

[5:10:28] require mandatory staff 3 sons

[5:10:32] to the commission. Appeals we

[5:10:33] can ensure local land

[5:10:36] development codes provide a

[5:10:37] clear pathway for aggrieved

[5:10:38] parties or the commission

[5:10:39] itself to appeal the

[5:10:42] administrative staff

[5:10:43] decisions. So it depends how

[5:10:44] deep you want to get involved

[5:10:47] I mean at one time before the

[5:10:48] rewrite. You know commission

[5:10:50] had a lot more authority in

[5:10:51] the polls. A lot of what's

[5:10:54] going on with these

[5:10:55] developments and then senate

[5:10:56] bill 7.84 came into play and

[5:11:00] then that kind shifted things.

[5:11:01] So it depends on what this

[5:11:02] commission is willing to do

[5:11:03] and how much time you're

[5:11:05] willing to put into it. But

[5:11:07] again if you can put these

[5:11:10] restrictions within there then

[5:11:12] it still give staff the

[5:11:15] authority but they have to

[5:11:16] basically it's limited their

[5:11:17] authority basically is limited

[5:11:21] between the major or minor

[5:11:22] development. They have to let

[5:11:22] you notify on a monthly you

[5:11:24] know so you know what's going

[5:11:27] on then you can determine what

[5:11:28] your procedures in to new

[5:11:31] particles are going to be.

[5:11:32] >> so you know that's my

[5:11:48] edition. Thank you guys, thank

[5:11:48] >> robin vents and a makes a

[5:11:50] lot of sense and that's 20

[5:11:51] years of experience right

[5:11:52] there and to be able to do it

[5:11:55] up the top of her head.

[5:11:56] Amazing. Commissioner langdon

[5:11:57] there's community members

[5:11:58] right here that you can engage

[5:12:00] with them we have also been

[5:12:02] here now for how many hours

[5:12:03] and so for you to say rather

[5:12:06] be somewhere else is that they

[5:12:08] putting once again to say the

[5:12:10] least I really appreciate you

[5:12:11] revealing yourself and how you

[5:12:12] feel about the people that

[5:12:17] actually do show up. Reversing

[5:12:18] the administrative approval

[5:12:18] process to bring these massive

[5:12:20] projects back front of the

[5:12:21] public vote sounds like a

[5:12:25] victory for representation,

[5:12:25] but under florida's strict

[5:12:28] growth management laws and has

[5:12:29] to one 80 shifting a project

[5:12:30] from an administrative track

[5:12:31] to a political track after an

[5:12:34] application is already in play

[5:12:35] as a high-risk gamble that

[5:12:36] invites multi-million dollar

[5:12:39] property right losses. We do

[5:12:41] not need to alter the city

[5:12:42] standard processing tracks to

[5:12:46] win this but we need to the

[5:12:47] the strict unyielding

[5:12:51] environmental applied to any

[5:12:53] processing track. The

[5:12:55] important that can we have is

[5:13:00] immediate and protection

[5:13:00] ordinances.

[5:13:02] >> and the all replacement

[5:13:07] basis.

[5:13:08] >> we have the ability to do

[5:13:10] that still today later on

[5:13:12] still tell you that we have

[5:13:12] the ability to do that today,

[5:13:17] I'm not hearing anyone.

[5:13:19] >> every list I was clear

[5:13:20] parliament every structure for

[5:13:23] for protections it doesn't

[5:13:24] matter an application is

[5:13:27] reviewed by city staff are not

[5:13:28] that this guy was project

[5:13:32] cannot legally less to do

[5:13:35] massive water consumption will

[5:13:40] to 0 harm to shared resources.

[5:13:44] >> utilizing that pending

[5:13:47] doctor and today a 72 for time

[5:13:47] teamers from sneaking end

[5:13:51] where we might be stop

[5:13:52] changing the procedures world

[5:13:53] said the start protecting the

[5:13:59] court. Out pass tomorrow,

[5:14:00] well, protection ordinance and

[5:14:05] the recharge basin and what

[5:14:06] your hope for best parent

[5:14:06] that's sitting on your dress

[5:14:14] is going expire 180 well just

[5:14:15] expired than that one has pay

[5:14:17] for can be used and all of

[5:14:18] these that were asked in your

[5:14:20] right now pretty empty of for

[5:14:21] follow already for about his

[5:14:26] job as you have contract.

[5:14:28] Permits anyone that wants to

[5:14:31] build a hyper always at the

[5:14:33] has been a thorough does not

[5:14:37] apply to the stylus or any

[5:14:39] florida of was written to be

[5:14:41] pretty w's and you guys chose

[5:14:47] not to preemptively use it. So

[5:14:56] you said I'm giving you an

[5:15:01] >> I would give you 3 examples

[5:15:02] of chapter 4 and why you need

[5:15:04] this administrative approval

[5:15:05] process, one property was

[5:15:08] included in the result. 2

[5:15:09] properties were already zoned

[5:15:13] for this before the rezone

[5:15:14] first one is apartment complex

[5:15:17] it's going in the middle of a

[5:15:18] residential area that's been

[5:15:18] rezoned are 3 right off the

[5:15:24] snow will. That snow you all

[5:15:26] know sandy capacity, she's got

[5:15:29] this project right behind her

[5:15:29] everything in chapter 4 that

[5:15:32] she wanted to use for

[5:15:33] protection. She's listening to

[5:15:34] loud jackhammers that got the

[5:15:35] land clear right up to her

[5:15:39] property. So something like

[5:15:40] that, and how it affects the

[5:15:42] neighbors there should have

[5:15:43] been different buffers things

[5:15:45] considered for that the next

[5:15:45] project is the big rv park

[5:15:47] going off a chamberlain right

[5:15:48] north the 75. Is kelly

[5:15:54] burrata. Has got concerns

[5:15:56] about dumping of the sewage

[5:15:57] that's going to be there and

[5:15:58] where the gas is it going to

[5:16:01] affect water chapter 4. I

[5:16:02] don't know if there's anything

[5:16:03] in there for her, but at least

[5:16:04] it should have been considered

[5:16:07] how that's going to affect the

[5:16:08] neighborhood and the 3rd one I

[5:16:15] forgot. For all there's 3rd

[5:16:16] one somewhere that is all

[5:16:17] about the one on sumpter the

[5:16:21] high-rise apartments, randy

[5:16:22] he's got now, he's got

[5:16:24] apartments going right behind

[5:16:25] him parking lights that are

[5:16:27] going to affect this area. So

[5:16:28] those are my examples, thanks.

[5:16:37] Thank you. Angela park.

[5:16:38] >> strongly support agenda

[5:16:41] item 26 dash 1, 0, 2, 2, and

[5:16:42] her and minister within the

[5:16:43] unified land development code

[5:16:44] development decisions can have

[5:16:45] lasting consequences for

[5:16:45] surrounding homeowners

[5:16:46] neighbors, traffic drainage

[5:16:48] utilities, water resources,

[5:16:49] environmental quality and that

[5:16:52] overall character of port,

[5:16:53] those decisions should not

[5:16:56] become effectively automatic

[5:16:57] simply because ministry

[5:16:59] deadline passes mistreated

[5:17:00] them a is important. But

[5:17:01] officials say should never

[5:17:02] come at the expense of

[5:17:03] accountability for the

[5:17:04] public's opportunity to be

[5:17:07] heard the city's uldc states

[5:17:08] it is its purpose is to

[5:17:09] promote public health safety

[5:17:09] and welfare implement the

[5:17:13] comprehensive plan facilitate

[5:17:15] quarterly growth and

[5:17:16] development presidents deserve

[5:17:17] confidence that significant

[5:17:18] development applications

[5:17:19] received meeting for and that

[5:17:19] decision makers remain

[5:17:20] accountable for the

[5:17:24] consequences of those

[5:17:26] decisions. For will cannot can

[5:17:26] undermine confidence and

[5:17:27] potentially allow projects to

[5:17:29] proceed without adequate

[5:17:30] consideration. Impacts that

[5:17:30] MAY not be apparent from a

[5:17:34] checklist or technical of the

[5:17:35] law. I urge the commission to

[5:17:35] reverse the administrative

[5:17:36] approval process require

[5:17:38] permanent action when

[5:17:40] appropriate, particularly for

[5:17:42] applications with potentially

[5:17:43] significant impacts staff

[5:17:45] should have ability to

[5:17:46] thoroughly evaluate

[5:17:46] applications and the public

[5:17:48] should have meaningful notice

[5:17:49] opportunity participate

[5:17:50] decisions could materially

[5:17:55] their community north port is.

[5:17:56] Experiencing tremendous growth

[5:17:56] we should not weaken oversight

[5:17:59] in the name of speed. Please

[5:17:59] support 26 dash 1, 0, 2, 2,

[5:18:03] restore accountability

[5:18:04] transparency and responsible

[5:18:08] development process. So or

[5:18:10] floyd's I fully support the

[5:18:11] return of administrative

[5:18:12] approval to be returned to the

[5:18:14] elected representatives of the

[5:18:14] city the city commission the

[5:18:15] people in the commissioners

[5:18:16] must take our city back.

[5:18:21] David restoration commissioner

[5:18:22] site and proposals must be

[5:18:22] restore what we're left

[5:18:27] with this. Commission of devon

[5:18:29] out thank you for having a

[5:18:30] discussion on administrative

[5:18:30] approval processes in case

[5:18:33] anyone is wondering

[5:18:34] administrative approval is

[5:18:35] granting and 32 the uldc

[5:18:35] administrator or specific

[5:18:39] parts of the uldc the sec has

[5:18:40] designated the director of

[5:18:40] development services for there

[5:18:43] doesn't need to grab those

[5:18:44] approvals. No input from

[5:18:46] commissioner citizens, no

[5:18:47] public checks and balances as

[5:18:48] a reminder staff does not

[5:18:50] answer citizens or to the

[5:18:52] commission. There are various

[5:18:53] sections riddled throughout

[5:18:54] the uldc that allowed ministry

[5:18:55] of approval impasse far more

[5:18:57] than approving project the

[5:18:58] development master concept

[5:18:58] plan is a good place to start

[5:19:02] the mending the u n a another

[5:19:04] area is the section granting

[5:19:05] the hearing officer to approve

[5:19:06] major variances and minor

[5:19:09] variances are approved

[5:19:10] administratively. There to be

[5:19:11] see that allow ministry

[5:19:14] approval to various flavors

[5:19:14] then there's neighborhood

[5:19:15] meetings, yes there but

[5:19:17] nothing happened after that no

[5:19:18] commission involvement, the

[5:19:19] citizens have no place to turn

[5:19:22] to have their voice heard did

[5:19:24] you know project is

[5:19:25] administratively approved

[5:19:26] there's no mechanism to notify

[5:19:28] commission commissioners kept

[5:19:29] in the which means the

[5:19:30] citizens are kept in the dark

[5:19:32] this should be amended I know

[5:19:34] subject like the back of my

[5:19:35] hand I won't bore you with the

[5:19:36] citing various sections of the

[5:19:37] code that permit

[5:19:38] administrative approval,

[5:19:39] however, I'm extending an

[5:19:40] invitation to share my

[5:19:41] knowledge with and have a

[5:19:44] conversation for retail

[5:19:45] hearing from you or anyone who

[5:19:47] wants to learn more on the

[5:19:49] subject commissioners please

[5:19:50] restore commissioner oversight

[5:19:51] please restore there's checks

[5:19:52] and balances please restore

[5:19:53] transparency and the ability

[5:19:53] for commission as citizens to

[5:19:54] purchase.

[5:20:02] Processes before de mer

[5:20:03] commissioners I'm writing as

[5:20:04] PRESIDENT To express my strong

[5:20:05] support for agenda item 26

[5:20:10] dash 1, 0, 2, 2, hi have

[5:20:11] marshaled developments kerry

[5:20:12] multi decade consequences from

[5:20:13] all our particularly regarding

[5:20:14] our water sources and traffic

[5:20:15] infrastructure. The ministry

[5:20:19] of staff signs all so started

[5:20:23] needed for routine technical

[5:20:24] approvals they are not

[5:20:25] equipped to evaluate macro

[5:20:25] level community impacts

[5:20:26] allowing high impact projects

[5:20:28] to public hearings for best

[5:20:29] presidents for raising

[5:20:33] critical questions about water

[5:20:34] conservation. The key strain

[5:20:35] that large industrial utility

[5:20:37] demands placed on our local

[5:20:39] water supply for traffic

[5:20:40] infrastructure increased

[5:20:41] congestion road where and

[5:20:42] safety concerns along major

[5:20:43] corridors like I 75 veterans

[5:20:46] highway hillsboro boulevard

[5:20:48] project just completed toledo

[5:20:49] blade boulevard and us 41

[5:20:51] decisions that impact our

[5:20:53] local water security and daily

[5:20:55] traffic along reversing the

[5:20:56] administrative approval

[5:20:58] process guarantees public

[5:20:58] notice in the short final

[5:21:01] remains with elected leaders

[5:21:02] accountable. So a community

[5:21:02] please vote. Yes on this

[5:21:03] agenda item since all

[5:21:07] happened. Elizabeth last my

[5:21:09] name is last all I thank you

[5:21:13] for your regarding 26 dash 1,

[5:21:15] 0, 2, I strongly object to on

[5:21:16] elected staff or city manager

[5:21:16] approving items without full

[5:21:17] disclosure and information

[5:21:19] presented to our

[5:21:20] commissioners. Voted in the

[5:21:21] mission and not the staff of

[5:21:22] the city manager

[5:21:23] administrative staff can

[5:21:25] source facts but it needs to

[5:21:26] biased I'm hopeful that the

[5:21:27] commissioners him we have a

[5:21:30] lot think long and hard about

[5:21:31] where opinion possible facts

[5:21:35] are coming from and what they.

[5:21:36] And that not like the dog pony

[5:21:36] show we percent it from the

[5:21:39] experts on data centers. The

[5:21:41] first question should always

[5:21:42] be is it really in the best

[5:21:43] interest of our residents and

[5:21:43] our city everyone has a

[5:21:44] background in life history

[5:21:48] before being employed could it

[5:21:49] be higher some productive

[5:21:50] people in our city management

[5:21:50] to screen the thoughts and

[5:21:52] ideas in favor of building a

[5:21:53] data center. I understand that

[5:21:54] we want more commercial and

[5:21:57] that we need more revenue

[5:21:58] maybe a nice designated area

[5:22:00] for park like many downtown

[5:22:01] development area where

[5:22:01] families gather with

[5:22:02] restaurants shopping bakery

[5:22:06] post-op ixic cetera the seems

[5:22:08] to have a lot of open land

[5:22:08] beside the trail. I believe

[5:22:09] the trail will be used more if

[5:22:10] it had some amenities,

[5:22:14] especially restrooms I was

[5:22:15] taking talking to 3 months

[5:22:16] pushing stores that have to

[5:22:17] cut their lives short because

[5:22:20] restroom. She is he out there

[5:22:22] and the closest porta potty is

[5:22:24] 2.5 miles from the trailhead

[5:22:25] women are comfortable

[5:22:25] squatting in the woods to area

[5:22:29] seems perfect to build a since

[5:22:30] the trail and the land is

[5:22:32] already there MAY be good bike

[5:22:34] trail and loveland ohio, it's

[5:22:36] 70 miles long connects many

[5:22:37] small towns with restaurants

[5:22:39] and amenities along the way it

[5:22:39] is extremely popular all

[5:22:40] attended the legacy trails are

[5:22:45] there at some amenities.

[5:22:46] >> mayor commissioners a port

[5:22:47] commissioner steps request to

[5:22:48] reconsider our first portions

[5:22:49] of the administrative approval

[5:22:52] process within the ld safe.

[5:22:54] The eu rely has been in my

[5:22:55] opinion and more importantly

[5:22:58] shifted too much consequential

[5:22:58] decision-making away from

[5:22:59] public bodies and elected

[5:23:00] officials and then to an

[5:23:02] administrative process with

[5:23:02] insufficient oversight and

[5:23:03] accountability administrative

[5:23:04] approval makes sense for

[5:23:07] routine minister all matters

[5:23:09] where an applicant either need

[5:23:10] to clearly establish

[5:23:10] requirements not but when a

[5:23:12] decision requires

[5:23:12] interpretation or discretion

[5:23:15] effects surrounding

[5:23:16] neighborhoods. Impacts

[5:23:18] infrastructure influences, the

[5:23:19] future character a city it

[5:23:21] deserves public scrutiny

[5:23:21] efficiency is important but

[5:23:22] efficiency can not become an

[5:23:24] excuse for nathan

[5:23:25] transparency. PRESIDENT Elect

[5:23:26] commissioners to make

[5:23:28] difficult decisions about the

[5:23:29] direction of north port we do

[5:23:30] not elect staff that is not

[5:23:31] criticism of staff does have a

[5:23:32] representative government is

[5:23:35] supposed to work consequential

[5:23:37] development decisions can be

[5:23:38] approved administratively

[5:23:39] residents have MAY not know

[5:23:41] what is happening until I

[5:23:42] discussed decision has already

[5:23:43] been made at that point public

[5:23:43] participation becomes reaction

[5:23:47] rather representation. Parties

[5:23:47] predictable development goals

[5:23:50] and developers deserve

[5:23:51] certainty. But predictability

[5:23:53] accountability are not

[5:23:54] mutually exclusive. The

[5:23:55] commission should drop their

[5:23:55] live routine decision based on

[5:23:59] objective standards can remain

[5:24:01] administrative decisions about

[5:24:03] significant discretion

[5:24:04] interpretation or community

[5:24:04] and actually receive

[5:24:06] transparent public review and

[5:24:08] appropriate oversight you have

[5:24:09] station sponsored lee it

[5:24:12] should not become a mechanism

[5:24:13] insulting insulating

[5:24:14] consequential land-use

[5:24:15] decisions from the residents

[5:24:16] who must live with them my

[5:24:17] sport action today to restore

[5:24:20] that accountability. Just us

[5:24:21] poor city commission resort

[5:24:25] reversing staff approval on

[5:24:26] items this line responsibility

[5:24:28] has already shown its ugly

[5:24:28] head. Us commissioners have

[5:24:29] lost all ability to know

[5:24:30] what's going because staff

[5:24:32] come back other way around

[5:24:34] you. It was sad to hear

[5:24:35] commissioner like this stance

[5:24:36] in previous meeting on the

[5:24:36] subject hopefully she will

[5:24:37] remember that citizens elected

[5:24:38] her to have some oversight

[5:24:43] ability and not just to be to

[5:24:44] city staff christina's I

[5:24:47] support the reverse off strait

[5:24:48] approval process within the

[5:24:50] uvalde say with the current

[5:24:51] topic, a paper scaled centers

[5:24:51] there have been instances

[5:24:52] across the nation where they

[5:24:54] have about a previous

[5:24:56] administrative approval

[5:24:56] process without oversight by

[5:24:58] the commission which is

[5:25:00] incredibly alarming a prime

[5:25:02] example of certain previous

[5:25:02] commissioner warned why it was

[5:25:03] a terrible idea to begin with

[5:25:05] and have voted against it. I

[5:25:06] appreciate commissioner starts

[5:25:08] for adding this item after

[5:25:10] realizing. That's better late

[5:25:11] than never to spy actually

[5:25:12] voting in favor of previously

[5:25:14] perhaps administrative

[5:25:15] approval still we utilize, but

[5:25:18] there must be clearly defined

[5:25:21] specials that limit what can

[5:25:24] this alternative alternate or

[5:25:25] even I'm just an average

[5:25:27] citizen, I'm not familiar with

[5:25:27] the law however, when I

[5:25:29] learned that our north port

[5:25:30] commissioner secretly

[5:25:32] reside north port and fletcher

[5:25:32] sign a non-disclosure

[5:25:34] agreement to keep residents in

[5:25:34] the dark about future plans

[5:25:35] for north for rest and I

[5:25:38] realized that of our past

[5:25:40] commissioners. How about that

[5:25:42] have a mess we're with a

[5:25:43] potential data center is a

[5:25:44] direct result of your

[5:25:44] administrative approval

[5:25:45] process and it needs to be

[5:25:51] reversed. Look I support that

[5:25:52] we're seeing a modest rate of

[5:25:53] approval process major

[5:25:54] development decisions should

[5:25:55] not be having behind the

[5:25:56] scenes without residents

[5:25:57] having a chance to know what

[5:25:58] is being proposed and speak up

[5:26:00] about it if you project can

[5:26:02] significantly impact our

[5:26:03] neighborhoods traffic

[5:26:03] infrastructure or quality of

[5:26:06] life should go through a

[5:26:06] public process. North korea

[5:26:07] has grown too quickly to be

[5:26:10] removing public oversight from

[5:26:10] development decisions.

[5:26:11] Residents deserve transparency

[5:26:16] and a voice for these projects

[5:26:17] this needs to be reversed a

[5:26:18] staff member should not be

[5:26:21] allowed provide to patients.

[5:26:24] Tell us we must a highly

[5:26:27] critical item 26 dash 1, 0, 2,

[5:26:28] 2 regarding the discussion to

[5:26:29] resourced reversed

[5:26:29] administrative approval

[5:26:32] process within our uldc

[5:26:34] russell sounds like it could

[5:26:34] bring back public hearing

[5:26:35] simply having a discussion on

[5:26:36] this item exposes a deeply

[5:26:39] flawed system. The fact that

[5:26:40] the city a lot of ministry of

[5:26:40] approval in the first place is

[5:26:43] a direct insult to the

[5:26:44] community magistrate of

[5:26:46] approval access a massive

[5:26:48] loophole shifting the power to

[5:26:49] greenlight high impact

[5:26:49] developments out of the public

[5:26:53] and handling it directly to on

[5:26:56] a lot of city neighborhood

[5:26:58] offering industrial commercial

[5:27:00] projects like predatory tech

[5:27:02] development to public scrutiny

[5:27:03] commission any neighborhood

[5:27:04] notification we cannot settle

[5:27:05] for open-ended discussion or a

[5:27:08] watered down compromise that

[5:27:09] now it reversal or a temporary

[5:27:12] fix isn't enough protect our

[5:27:13] city's future. Our community

[5:27:13] to mask absolutely

[5:27:16] accountability every single

[5:27:18] land-use choice. Our

[5:27:19] neighborhoods threatens our

[5:27:21] natural resources are creates

[5:27:21] 24 7 noise and utility for

[5:27:24] must face a mandatory public

[5:27:26] hearing elected leaders must

[5:27:28] have to PRESIDENT The eye high

[5:27:31] city staff purples but the

[5:27:31] city commission that we see

[5:27:32] through administrative proper

[5:27:38] staffing. We demand for

[5:27:39] permanent reversal of all

[5:27:39] MISTER Ensure a complete

[5:27:40] public transparency.

[5:27:45] Demartino good morning again

[5:27:47] commissioners my name is sam,

[5:27:48] I'm support of this reversal

[5:27:49] administrative approval rights

[5:27:50] that has been given to the

[5:27:51] city manager these types of

[5:27:51] decisions should be made as a

[5:27:55] group. Thank you. Stacey

[5:27:58] mentioned we need ever process

[5:27:59] within the unified land

[5:28:02] development code is that it is

[5:28:02] on acceptable have random

[5:28:03] administrative employees

[5:28:04] making major decisions that

[5:28:04] can seriously affect the

[5:28:07] last north port resident, the

[5:28:08] citizens let the commissioners

[5:28:09] to represent them and the

[5:28:11] commissioner should approve it

[5:28:11] actually see requests

[5:28:18] accordingly and that's all I

[5:28:22] >> request a motion to make it

[5:28:23] go.

[5:28:23] >> I make a motion direct

[5:28:24] staff to draft an ordinance to

[5:28:30] bring back. To bring all

[5:28:32] commercial retail and

[5:28:34] multifamily projects before

[5:28:35] the city commission monthly

[5:28:36] basis prior any administrative

[5:28:40] from pro bowl.

[5:28:41] >> motion on the floor made

[5:28:43] commissioner would you like to

[5:28:53] read it back please. Also in

[5:28:54] >> direct the city manager to

[5:28:58] draft ordinance to bring. All

[5:29:00] commercial retail and

[5:29:01] multifamily projects to

[5:29:02] commission on a monthly basis

[5:29:02] prior to any administrative

[5:29:05] approval.

[5:29:07] >> and that motion was paying

[5:29:08] my commissioner stoke seconded

[5:29:09] by commissioner deval any

[5:29:27] discussion. Not. Let's and

[5:29:30] that passes 4 with vice mayor

[5:29:36] dissenting vice reason you.

[5:29:37] >> to file a public comment

[5:29:37] city clerk.

[5:29:50] >> I again that's the read my

[5:29:56] handwriting.

[5:29:58] >> just one of the state these

[5:29:58] last couple weeks that a lot

[5:30:03] lot of public comment come up.

[5:30:04] And make very educated and

[5:30:04] informative comments and I

[5:30:07] just wanted to speak on that

[5:30:11] because public comment why we

[5:30:11] do it. We don't do it because

[5:30:14] we have nothing else better to

[5:30:15] some of us have health issues

[5:30:16] that we're dealing with but we

[5:30:16] make it here because we care

[5:30:19] about the city. We've been

[5:30:20] called haters we've been

[5:30:23] called the vocal minority for

[5:30:25] trying to speak up because

[5:30:26] that's the other side of the

[5:30:26] coin there's one side there's

[5:30:31] another side. So. We're just

[5:30:34] not speaking to here and still

[5:30:34] speaks we've spoken on

[5:30:35] projects that affect their

[5:30:36] health our health safety

[5:30:40] welfare and our way of life.

[5:30:41] You know we've been here on

[5:30:43] the toledo 3.20 project will

[5:30:44] be a residence that got

[5:30:47] together and got the

[5:30:48] pocatello. The residents that

[5:30:50] were on the can bill for

[5:30:51] apartments coming there what

[5:30:53] haven and of course

[5:30:53] warm mineral springs a lot of

[5:30:57] residents came out for that.

[5:30:59] So I've already giving you the

[5:31:00] cracked flows downstream

[5:31:01] speech I've already given you

[5:31:03] the compromise speech and I've

[5:31:04] already given the work

[5:31:04] together speech so now it's

[5:31:05] time to listen to the

[5:31:06] residents and now working.

[5:31:08] Yeah susan thank you. Thank

[5:31:17] you.

[5:31:18] >> my name is samuel chirping

[5:31:19] and this is dedicated to every

[5:31:19] single resident the state of

[5:31:25] florida. Everyone. When our

[5:31:26] writer stand at the podium

[5:31:27] people look at me and asked

[5:31:29] her is this guy where is the

[5:31:34] what angle. Assume I represent

[5:31:35] a paid organization or hidden

[5:31:36] political agenda. They are

[5:31:40] around I'm just one guy, I'm a

[5:31:42] sick guy who is standing here

[5:31:43] today because I live the

[5:31:45] absolute nightmare of

[5:31:46] florida's water crisis and I'm

[5:31:49] still living at right now. And

[5:31:52] the summer of 2018 the water

[5:31:53] in the state poison my home, I

[5:31:54] felt so violently ill that my

[5:31:55] body deteriorated to a

[5:31:58] skeletal 90 pounds. I was

[5:32:00] paralyzed on my right side, my

[5:32:02] arm and leg completely useless

[5:32:05] shaking like I had

[5:32:06] parkinson's. Well I was

[5:32:06] trapped in my own felling body

[5:32:09] a wave of destruction hit my

[5:32:10] family. My mother-in-law

[5:32:12] wilson's pass suffered a

[5:32:13] massive stroke, losing the

[5:32:15] lining of her intestines

[5:32:16] people are being consumed by

[5:32:20] alzheimer's and dementia. I

[5:32:22] watch my spouse up in icu

[5:32:24] during separate times once

[5:32:26] because I thought it was brain

[5:32:27] cancer and another time

[5:32:28] because of fluid retention was

[5:32:29] so severe the body blew up

[5:32:29] like a blur and cutting off

[5:32:33] the circulation. And the

[5:32:35] middle of all of that has my

[5:32:37] dog started dying

[5:32:38] consecutively week after week

[5:32:39] one would die in 2 weeks later

[5:32:42] the next one would collapse. I

[5:32:45] for help my then county

[5:32:46] commissioner in charlotte

[5:32:47] county chris constance

[5:32:48] completely stonewalled he

[5:32:52] refused to work at me. Talk to

[5:32:54] me knowledge my separate. My

[5:32:58] family existed. It was slap in

[5:33:01] the face, but the circle

[5:33:03] always turns this year the

[5:33:05] spelling to him out of office

[5:33:06] and replaced it with john

[5:33:08] fleming and I want every

[5:33:09] commissioner in the state to

[5:33:11] hear that name and learn the

[5:33:12] lesson with the citizen comes

[5:33:13] to crying out for their like

[5:33:16] you them in the eye and you're

[5:33:17] listen because a public record

[5:33:18] is part of it and the voters

[5:33:19] will eventually clear the

[5:33:23] room. To day I carry

[5:33:24] department damage that

[5:33:27] poisoning caused me every

[5:33:29] single day the moment, I knew

[5:33:29] the middle I face severe

[5:33:30] sickness and take specialize

[5:33:32] medication. So I haven't eaten

[5:33:34] in 6 hours. Just so I could

[5:33:40] get to it I spent most of my

[5:33:40] days confined to a chair, my

[5:33:41] body is broken, but they do

[5:33:45] better to my still works when

[5:33:46] you reverse a second chair all

[5:33:49] day use your brain to to

[5:33:49] research and the track is

[5:33:53] what's happening to our state

[5:33:56] I was doubt, also from aging

[5:33:57] infrastructure, spend copious

[5:33:59] amounts of toxic herbicides

[5:34:00] and completely fell to test

[5:34:03] water for heavy metals and p f

[5:34:06] a s and right now they want to

[5:34:10] quietly while killer mike the

[5:34:11] reactors a resource to firing

[5:34:12] hyperscale data center

[5:34:12] starting to drain millions of

[5:34:13] gallons from opera for every

[5:34:16] single day. I don't speak for

[5:34:20] has been from the chair.

[5:34:20] >> you have have my

[5:34:23] condolences sir. I'm still a

[5:34:27] lot things

[5:34:29] >> good morning commissioners

[5:34:32] we the citizens of and that

[5:34:33] MAY be addressed and that

[5:34:34] meant a permanent wellfield

[5:34:35] protection ordinances right

[5:34:36] directly into our local land

[5:34:37] development regulations on the

[5:34:39] florida senate bill 4, 8, 4,

[5:34:40] we're and then the strait of

[5:34:44] delays 12 months study task

[5:34:45] force are legally risky

[5:34:46] moratoriums that trigger

[5:34:46] multimillion-dollar developer

[5:34:47] lawsuits under the judicial

[5:34:50] pending ordinance top and you

[5:34:53] have the how to fish ali

[5:34:54] announce you're drafting these

[5:34:54] water protections in sully

[5:34:55] freezing any know hyperscale

[5:34:56] data center applications from

[5:35:00] sneaking into our borders. I'm

[5:35:01] waiting to demand absolute

[5:35:02] accountability transparency

[5:35:03] and community protection

[5:35:07] regarding items, 2610 5126

[5:35:10] 1023 2610 22 together items

[5:35:12] represent a critical

[5:35:13] crossroads for future north

[5:35:14] part we cannot allow interests

[5:35:14] and back mechanisms to dictate

[5:35:17] our city's land use policies

[5:35:19] regarding item 2610 51, we

[5:35:20] must enact strictest possible

[5:35:22] land-use regulations

[5:35:24] concerning geisinger's our

[5:35:25] current uldc completely that's

[5:35:26] baseline protections against

[5:35:28] these high impact industrial

[5:35:30] facilities. Cannot pass lean

[5:35:31] and regulations that are north

[5:35:33] port into a bucket regulatory

[5:35:34] have least resistance for

[5:35:37] predatory tech development.

[5:35:40] Any updates the uldc must

[5:35:40] legally and a massive setbacks

[5:35:44] from residential zones strict

[5:35:46] low-frequency noise caps

[5:35:48] resource usage limits to

[5:35:48] protect are great and total

[5:35:50] tax accountability, however,

[5:35:51] protective zoning rules means

[5:35:52] nothing if developments are

[5:35:54] negotiated in the shadows this

[5:35:59] brings me to item 2610 23,

[5:35:59] simply establishing a process

[5:36:01] to notify the commission of

[5:36:03] non-disclosure agreements is a

[5:36:05] dangerously we compromise

[5:36:05] nearly notifying leadership

[5:36:07] that a secret deal excess does

[5:36:08] nothing to stop the secrecy

[5:36:10] itself. We demand a total ban

[5:36:11] monday between public

[5:36:12] officials and private

[5:36:13] developers local government

[5:36:14] must operate in the finally

[5:36:18] regarding I don't 2610 22 the

[5:36:19] city must partly reversed

[5:36:20] administrative approval

[5:36:23] process for major projects

[5:36:23] minister approval as a

[5:36:24] loophole that's on elected

[5:36:25] city staff rubber stamp

[5:36:26] neighborhood offering

[5:36:26] developments without public

[5:36:31] hearings or a commission we

[5:36:33] see how these pieces fit

[5:36:34] together corporations use and

[5:36:35] the a's to hide their plans

[5:36:37] for last week you have the sea

[5:36:38] regulations to protect their

[5:36:40] profits and use administrative

[5:36:41] approvals to bypass public

[5:36:42] scrutiny there's a commission

[5:36:44] to reject corporate secrecy

[5:36:44] fully eliminate administrative

[5:36:48] proffer stamping and codify

[5:36:49] protections stacey mention

[5:36:50] good morning commissioners, my

[5:36:51] name is stacy mention I'm

[5:36:52] writing today with the direct

[5:36:55] mandate. We demand that media

[5:36:56] drafting and enactment of

[5:36:57] permanent wellfield protection

[5:36:59] ordinances friend directly

[5:37:00] into land development

[5:37:02] regulations on florida senate

[5:37:03] bill 4, 8, 4, we're with the

[5:37:05] ministry delays twellman study

[5:37:05] task force are legally risky

[5:37:06] moratorium section

[5:37:09] multimillion-dollar developer

[5:37:10] lawsuit. I mean is that it do

[5:37:12] pending ordinance doctor and

[5:37:12] you have the legal authority

[5:37:14] right now to officially

[5:37:15] announce you're tracking these

[5:37:16] water protections and sully

[5:37:17] freezing any new hyperscale

[5:37:17] data center applications from

[5:37:20] sneaking into our borders. The

[5:37:21] political line in the sand, a

[5:37:22] strong today in the community

[5:37:23] is tracking exactly each of

[5:37:25] your stance. Commissioner

[5:37:27] start if you want to earn your

[5:37:28] re-election he will step up

[5:37:29] today do what is best for port

[5:37:29] resident to make that official

[5:37:30] mission to review and

[5:37:33] implement these wellfield

[5:37:34] protections. Rex sign on to

[5:37:35] this ordinance immediately and

[5:37:37] stop using committee delays to

[5:37:40] protect family interests.

[5:37:41] Protecting our offer is in the

[5:37:42] best interest of north port

[5:37:43] which will be the best

[5:37:46] interest for or just campaign

[5:37:48] as well. Commissioner patch I

[5:37:49] have new to keep that

[5:37:51] outstanding following

[5:37:52] community trust you have built

[5:37:53] continue to lead the charge

[5:37:55] and fully support this think a

[5:37:56] framework on the floor

[5:37:58] commissioned about if you want

[5:37:59] to fall on the correct side of

[5:37:59] history. You must sign onto

[5:38:00] these welfare protections

[5:38:06] drinking. First facing an

[5:38:06] industrial extinction about

[5:38:08] stop playing defense protect

[5:38:09] our about shields use ask

[5:38:10] protect florida's water right

[5:38:14] now what's on there.

[5:38:15] >> move on to commissioner

[5:38:15] communications commissioner

[5:38:23] duval. Commissioner stokes us

[5:38:24] and 2 vice mayor and also

[5:38:26] thank commissioner petro for

[5:38:31] city manager. Mayor city

[5:38:38] nothing can city clerk. I all

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City Commission Regular Meeting on 2026-09-08 10:00 AM - Amended to add Item Nos. 26-1051, 26-1023, and 26-1022.

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