O'Fallon City Council Workshop & Meeting 09-10-26 | O'Fallon, Missouri

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[0:29] On call September 10th, 2026
[0:32] O'Fallon City Council workshop
[0:33] to order roll call Katie. Mayor
[0:35] Hennessy, present.
[0:36] Council member. Wexler present.
[0:38] Council member Wilcox, present.
[0:40] Council member. Boyer present.
[0:42] Council member. Yates.
[0:43] Present.
[0:45] Council Member Koskela present.
[0:46] Council Member Link present.
[0:48] Council member. Taylor.
[0:49] Present. Council member.
[0:50] Spencer. Present. Council
[0:52] Member Cook present. Council
[0:54] member.
[0:54] Palmer.
[0:55] Present. I have folks you have
[0:57] agenda in front of you. What's
[0:58] the pleasure?
[1:00] So move. Wexler. Koskela.
[1:04] Motion by Councilman Wexler.
[1:05] Stand by. Koskela. Questions or
[1:08] comments? All in favor? Aye.
[1:11] Opposed? Motion passes.
[1:13] Anything on the council agenda?
[1:15] You folks want to talk about?
[1:17] I have a question.
[1:19] Yes, ma'am.
[1:19] On resolution 910, 2026, a,
[1:23] what's the purpose of that? Why
[1:25] do we need that? I think we're.
[1:28] Is that what it is? Yeah. We're adding this, and we're
[1:31] sharing the cost for what I
[1:33] understand is a slightly angled
[1:36] picture from the sky.
[1:38] Go ahead. Michael. I think
[1:41] Mister Woods would probably.
[1:42] Be best able to answer that. My
[1:45] commentary information is
[1:47] probably a little dated. That's
[1:49] one part of it. It's actually
[1:50] aerial photography that we use
[1:52] on all our maps. So it's a new
[1:54] flyover every year, and we
[1:56] share that cost with all the
[1:57] Saint Charles County
[1:58] communities. Uh, it's a
[2:00] consortium that we all kind of
[2:02] chip in on that. And it's with
[2:04] the pictorial triangle in
[2:07] particular that was originally.
[2:10] It's not really more for
[2:11] planning and zoning stuff, but
[2:12] I know that was part more for,
[2:14] uh, the, the assessor's county
[2:16] office and also for police to
[2:18] recognize where doors and, and
[2:20] different access points are on
[2:22] buildings. That's why it was done.
[2:26] Oh, okay.
[2:28] Mr. Palmer?
[2:29] Yeah. On, uh, 20, 26 f um, I
[2:34] noticed that there was two
[2:36] every every bidder put in two
[2:38] bids, and I got to pull it up
[2:40] because I'm blind. Sorry. Hold
[3:02] on. I'm coming slow today.
[3:13] Nope. It wasn't that one. There
[3:15] was one of these that had two.
[3:18] There were two options. One
[3:19] were the where the city took
[3:20] control of the equipment was a
[3:22] meter on a sewer. Um, there was
[3:25] a difference in the equipment
[3:27] pricing between the two options
[3:28] by the same supplier. And I
[3:29] wasn't sure. That doesn't make
[3:30] sense to me.
[3:33] Mr. Bender? Yeah. So one option
[3:36] was where they owned the
[3:38] equipment, and the other option
[3:40] was where the city owns the
[3:41] equipment.
[3:42] So on the equipment cost, why
[3:44] would there be any cost if they
[3:45] owned it?
[3:47] On say they say that again.
[3:49] Please let me pull it up real
[3:51] quick.
[3:56] Resolution d.
[3:57] Yes, d. On the bid recap, uh,
[4:22] the last two items on there,
[4:24] both by track. Alternative one
[4:25] were the city ownership
[4:27] transition and the other one,
[4:28] it's metering as a service.
[4:30] There's equipment cost ones
[4:32] 34,000. The other is almost 11.
[4:35] Why is there any equipment cost
[4:37] if it's as a service?
[4:40] Well, I think they're still
[4:41] recouping their costs for their
[4:43] investment on the equipment.
[4:46] And that's just how they bid
[4:48] it. They decided to show how it
[4:50] was bid.
[4:54] I guess I would have expected a
[4:57] higher recurring cost in a no
[5:01] equipment cost, because in the
[5:02] how didn't that how as a
[5:04] service that works, we don't
[5:05] pay for the equipment, pay for
[5:06] the service. They amortize the
[5:08] cost of the equipment into the
[5:09] annual fees that we pay.
[5:12] Yeah. I think it's just strange
[5:13] how they broke it down that
[5:15] way. But that's how they bid it
[5:17] and that's what we have to to
[5:19] make a decision from.
[5:21] Okay. And then on the total
[5:22] cost, uh, does that include our
[5:24] cost of maintenance, etc. on
[5:26] the when we own it, like when
[5:27] we see the total cost after
[5:28] five years, does that take into
[5:30] account the cost that we take
[5:31] on? I'm asking for the
[5:35] comparison purposes. I don't
[5:37] know if this is just the check
[5:38] we write to the to the supplier
[5:39] or vendor. Either the 162 or
[5:42] the 183, or if in there we
[5:45] threw in our additional cost by
[5:47] us taking it on as equipment,
[5:50] that they transition it to us.
[5:51] Because there would be. My
[5:52] point is there would be some,
[5:53] I'm assuming, some level of
[5:54] maintenance and whatnot that we
[5:56] would now start to incur that
[5:57] we didn't incur before, and it
[5:59] feels like that should be
[6:00] included in there. When we're
[6:01] comparing service versus
[6:03] ownership.
[6:06] Uh, so if I understand you
[6:08] correctly, you're saying that
[6:09] if in the scenario where we buy
[6:12] the equipment ourselves. Yeah,
[6:15] we're taking on some risk that
[6:17] there's some maintenance to
[6:18] that. Is that.
[6:20] Yeah, I guess let me, let me
[6:21] try and restart from the
[6:22] beginning. The two options are
[6:24] one where they transition the
[6:26] ownership to the city, and the
[6:28] other one is where they retain
[6:29] the equipment and they operate
[6:31] it, and we just pay them for
[6:32] the service. In the scenario in
[6:35] which we transition the
[6:36] ownership to us, there would be
[6:38] some costs that the city now
[6:40] incurs that we would not incur
[6:42] if they did it fully as a
[6:43] service. Right.
[6:46] And are you saying that's the
[6:47] maintenance of maintenance
[6:48] cost?
[6:48] It might be maintenance. I
[6:50] don't know what all it would
[6:51] be, but at least maintenance,
[6:52] right. Um, or whatever else
[6:54] someone does on a week by week,
[6:55] month by month basis on it. I
[6:57] don't know what they actually
[6:57] do, but the question is, is did
[6:59] that additional cost by us
[7:00] taking the ownership of it get
[7:02] rolled in so that we have a
[7:04] total cost comparison between
[7:06] the two scenarios?
[7:07] Mr. Palmer, um, I want to jump
[7:10] in. That does not come into
[7:12] this scenario here where this
[7:13] is based purely on the cost of
[7:15] the materials and the
[7:16] installation and the contract.
[7:19] However, in looking at it from
[7:21] a city standpoint, you would
[7:23] compare there. Yes, there's a
[7:24] cost for us to take it on. If
[7:26] we were to take it on, if we
[7:28] weren't, we would also have to
[7:30] go out to bid in five years and
[7:31] redo this contract again. And
[7:33] there would be another cost
[7:34] associated with it. So, you
[7:35] know, that's that's part of the
[7:37] mindset there. It's do we know
[7:39] exactly what it's going to
[7:40] cost. No. At this point. But we
[7:42] would compare that to the fact
[7:43] that we would have to rebid
[7:44] because it would be gone in
[7:46] five years.
[7:47] Mr.. Snowden, I think we have
[7:51] a. good line on the question.
[7:53] If you don't mind, can we take
[7:55] between now and the regular
[7:56] meeting to research this and
[7:57] get you your best answer?
[7:59] Yes.
[8:00] Thank you, Mr. Link.
[8:03] Thank you. Mayor. I want to
[8:04] circle back to 2026, a
[8:07] resolution regarding the, um,
[8:10] aerial spectrometry. So, uh,
[8:13] you know, there's Google,
[8:14] there's Apple, there's a lot of
[8:16] mapping services out there that
[8:17] offer the orthographic views
[8:20] for free. Uh, what I wanted to
[8:22] understand is, what are we
[8:23] using? The oblique angles for
[8:25] again? And to what extent are
[8:27] we getting $13,856.50 of value
[8:37] out of it every year?
[8:38] Are we, um, I mean, I know I
[8:41] use it a couple times a week.
[8:43] Me personally, um, I know my
[8:45] staff use it, uses it because
[8:46] we can actually zoom in closer
[8:48] on property and see a lot more.
[8:49] It's got better, uh, angles and
[8:53] it's got, uh, better clarity,
[8:55] you know, um, as far as if it's
[8:59] worth it, I guess, I guess I
[9:01] cannot say for certain. I know
[9:04] that's the going price. Uh,
[9:06] we're we're doing our share.
[9:07] You know, our the 13,000 is
[9:09] based upon our population, you
[9:11] know, so the county has this
[9:13] contract with the company, and
[9:15] it's this prorated over the
[9:17] entire county. Um.
[9:20] They've also used it on all the
[9:22] building the owes to.
[9:24] Yeah, it's a layer. We use it
[9:26] on, you know, our zoning map.
[9:27] It's a layer in there. We don't
[9:29] use the pick part of that in
[9:31] there. It's more just a
[9:32] straight down photo. Aerial
[9:34] photos. Um. Is that.
[9:39] Just for what it's worth,
[9:41] engineering uses it to we, you
[9:42] know, somebody calls up and
[9:43] says, I used to have a no
[9:44] parking sign. I got knocked
[9:45] down. Where's it at? And
[9:47] sometimes we can't get that
[9:48] from Google. And with this we
[9:50] can go down to the different
[9:51] years. I know Google has the
[9:52] history as well, but it
[9:54] provides us with another tool.
[9:55] Sometimes when Google imagery
[9:57] isn't good for that year it was
[9:59] cloudy or whatever allows us to
[10:00] go in and check different
[10:01] things. Traffic related, sign
[10:03] related, things like that as
[10:04] well.
[10:04] Got it. And I guess kind of
[10:06] just doing rough math. If, uh,
[10:08] annual visit was like a 138
[10:12] bucks in, let's say, uh, time
[10:14] and effort to go out to a site,
[10:15] would you use that more than
[10:17] maybe 100 times a year?
[10:22] Yeah, I'm sure my staff uses it
[10:23] numerous times every week as
[10:25] well. So, yeah, we'll get a
[10:27] call from a resident and we'll
[10:28] be able to say, hold on one
[10:29] second. Let us pull up this
[10:30] imagery. And lots of times we
[10:31] can talk to them about
[10:32] backyards or things like that.
[10:34] So okay, I appreciate it. Thank
[10:36] you. I know it's a small number
[10:37] compared to the other one, but.
[10:38] I guess another thought is, you
[10:39] know, with Google, I use that
[10:41] too. But we wouldn't be able to
[10:43] lay that into our other our
[10:44] zoning maps. It's a layer that
[10:46] we can put into our own, like
[10:48] our utility maps, uh, where we
[10:50] wouldn't have that ability. We
[10:51] would just use Google, you know
[10:53] what I mean?
[10:54] Got it. All right. Thank you
[10:55] for the clarification. I
[10:56] appreciate it.
[10:57] Corey.
[10:59] So I also circling back now to
[11:03] 2026, a mr. woods had mentioned
[11:06] also law enforcement can use
[11:08] this. I would like to maybe
[11:10] hear a little bit more of how
[11:11] that would be helpful. Do you
[11:13] see that being something that
[11:14] you would utilize on a regular
[11:16] basis? Because I got to be
[11:17] honest, my purse strings are
[11:18] real loose when it comes to our
[11:19] law enforcement. The safety of
[11:20] our officers. So.
[11:22] we use it on a couple of
[11:23] different things. Obviously,
[11:24] the neighborhood complaints,
[11:26] uh, on the more minor level, on
[11:28] the larger level, the Swat
[11:29] teams are tactical. Teams can
[11:30] use them for lines of approach,
[11:33] uh, surrounding areas if
[11:34] there's a search warrant, if
[11:35] they have to evacuate nearby
[11:36] areas, things of that nature.
[11:38] Good enough for me. Thank you.
[11:41] Okay. Anybody else? Amanda.
[11:44] I just had a question. Um,
[11:47] Bill, 7890. The, uh, the sports
[11:52] complex. We're doing the first,
[11:54] second and final passage
[11:55] tonight. And I just wondered
[11:56] the reasons that there were and
[11:59] all that tonight.
[12:03] That's a record. So it's read
[12:06] through the final passage.
[12:07] It's just the record plat
[12:08] that's read through final
[12:09] passage. So that's an ordinance
[12:13] on record plats. It's just read
[12:16] through final passage. There's
[12:17] no emergency, but we do it on
[12:20] all record plats. We do two
[12:21] readings. Okay. Anybody else?
[12:29] All right. Seeing none. I do
[12:34] have a motion to approve the
[12:36] council workshop meeting
[12:37] minutes of August 27th, 2026.
[12:41] Motion link.
[12:43] Yates motion Councilman Link
[12:46] second by Councilman Yates.
[12:48] Questions or comments? All in
[12:49] favor? Aye. Any opposed? Motion
[12:52] passes. First thing on. Uh,
[12:55] next one is the introduction
[12:56] and demonstration of the new
[12:58] volunteer services platform.
[13:00] Let's get connected.
[13:06] Good evening. Mayor. Members of
[13:08] city council. Thank you for
[13:09] having us tonight. So I have
[13:11] the easy job tonight, and that
[13:13] I am just going to turn it over
[13:14] to Hunter Davis. He's been our
[13:16] volunteer services manager
[13:18] since April. I don't remember
[13:20] the exact date we just talked
[13:21] about it 2026. And he is here
[13:25] to introduce you to the
[13:27] platform. So I'll turn it over
[13:28] to Hunter.
[13:28] Yeah.
[13:29] All right. Hello, everybody.
[13:30] Thank you very much for
[13:31] allowing me to have a few
[13:32] moments to speak to you all
[13:33] tonight. Uh, like Tanya said,
[13:34] I'm pretty new here at the
[13:35] city. I've been here for about
[13:36] five months, and I've really
[13:37] enjoyed it so far. I really I
[13:39] know you guys get to make a lot
[13:40] of the the hard decisions and
[13:42] have some tough discussions,
[13:43] but we're gonna take a few
[13:44] moments and talk about some fun
[13:45] stuff. So, um, I'm going to go
[13:47] into our next slide here.
[13:48] Actually, I'll wait for the
[13:49] PowerPoint to kick on. All
[13:50] right. So we're going to talk
[13:51] about some of the opportunities
[13:52] to get involved for your
[13:53] residents. So if you ever have
[13:55] residents coming up to you and
[13:56] asking for ways that they can
[13:57] get involved, they say that
[13:58] they appreciate and enjoy what
[13:59] you all do and what to do
[14:00] something themselves. This is
[14:02] going to be a presentation on
[14:03] how to do that. So many of you
[14:06] probably know, or at least
[14:08] recognize the face of Bill
[14:09] Gardner here. He's one of our
[14:10] lead volunteers, and he has
[14:11] served in every single one of
[14:13] these capacities, and many more
[14:14] than I could possibly imagine
[14:16] over the years that he has been
[14:17] here in O'Fallon. But these are
[14:18] three of the big picture
[14:19] buckets for ways that residents
[14:21] can currently get involved with
[14:22] the city. Um, these three
[14:24] buckets are served. The city,
[14:25] serve the community and shape
[14:27] the future. There's a lot more
[14:28] information on each of those
[14:29] little buckets, but there's
[14:30] also a dedicated slide for each
[14:31] of them as well. So I'm going
[14:32] to shift right into Serve the
[14:35] city. Um, so serving the city
[14:37] is going to be opportunities
[14:38] for our residents to get
[14:39] involved with things that are
[14:40] happening here at City Hall, at
[14:42] the Reynolds Center, happening
[14:43] at the Justice Center. Any of
[14:44] the spaces that the city owns.
[14:46] Um, so working side by side
[14:47] with our department staff, uh,
[14:49] that are, you know, on the
[14:50] field doing things for the
[14:52] city, serving in some capacity
[14:53] already. Um, these are most of
[14:55] these are going to be ongoing
[14:56] roles for residents who have
[14:57] the availability in their
[14:58] schedule for ongoing service.
[15:00] So some of them are coming in
[15:01] weekly. Some of them are coming
[15:03] every other week. It might be
[15:04] monthly, but some amount of
[15:05] consistent, uh, servitude is an
[15:07] opportunity for them. An
[15:08] example of that that I put on
[15:09] here being the Veteran Services
[15:11] office. And so if any of you
[15:12] are familiar with the Veteran
[15:13] Services office, it's here in
[15:14] City Hall. Uh, it's down on the
[15:16] other side, not on the rotunda
[15:17] side, but it got moved over to
[15:19] the other end there. Um, but
[15:20] they are here weekly, every
[15:22] single day of the week, and
[15:23] they are serving the residents
[15:24] that are needing services in
[15:25] that area. Um, other
[15:27] opportunities in this area,
[15:28] though, are the on call and
[15:29] special project opportunities.
[15:31] So these would be things like
[15:32] what's pictured here. So this
[15:32] is Peggy Feeney. She is a
[15:34] member of the Speedy Bunch.
[15:35] This picture is from a Speedy
[15:37] Bunch project where the, uh,
[15:38] that group of individuals came
[15:40] in and was stuffing envelopes
[15:42] for either an event that was
[15:43] coming up or packets that
[15:44] needed to be sent out to the
[15:45] residents of O'Fallon. These
[15:47] are things that we obviously
[15:48] could do as staff within City
[15:49] Hall, but that would limit our
[15:50] capacity quite a bit. If we are
[15:52] consistently just stuffing
[15:53] envelopes over and over or
[15:54] doing other event needs, that
[15:56] we can have people that come in
[15:57] and actually have a, you know,
[15:59] they're coming in because they
[16:00] want to be able to give back in
[16:01] some way, and they want to
[16:02] serve their fellow citizens in
[16:04] here in O'Fallon. So this is an
[16:05] opportunity for them to do so.
[16:07] Uh, the example I put on there
[16:08] are HR, HR team is moving to a
[16:11] new system here soon. So we
[16:12] have some IT tech help that we
[16:14] have another volunteer coming
[16:15] up to serve as well. Shifting
[16:20] into serving the community. So
[16:21] these are going to be a little
[16:21] bit more of the forward facing
[16:22] kind of spotlight events that
[16:24] you've seen already. Um, so the
[16:25] community events would be
[16:26] things like random acts of
[16:27] kindness in February, Heritage
[16:29] and Freedom Festival. We just
[16:31] had that one. So you're all
[16:31] familiar with that, that event
[16:33] and many of the other ones that
[16:34] we offer throughout the city,
[16:35] we being the city as a whole,
[16:36] not just volunteer services
[16:37] team, these events could not
[16:39] happen. They could not function
[16:40] without volunteers. And so our
[16:42] office is helping connect those
[16:43] volunteers with the
[16:44] opportunities to serve and give
[16:45] back in some capacity to help
[16:47] with some of these community
[16:48] events. Service projects is
[16:49] another way that citizens can
[16:52] give back. This is through
[16:53] things like Earth Day that runs
[16:55] in April as well, and that
[16:56] one's going to be an
[16:57] opportunity for residents to
[16:58] come in, you know, in large
[17:00] groups, plant flowers at the
[17:01] different sites that the city
[17:02] owns. So if you have
[17:04] appreciated in any way what the
[17:05] landscaping looks like here at
[17:06] City Hall, first thank the
[17:08] landscaping crew, but then also
[17:09] thank the volunteers that were
[17:10] helped up here on Earth Day for
[17:11] that one. We also have the park
[17:12] cleanups, the creek cleanups,
[17:13] and other events like that.
[17:15] Those are opportunities for
[17:16] individual residents to come up
[17:18] or businesses. They frequently
[17:19] reach out to us saying that
[17:20] they want to coordinate a creek
[17:22] cleanup with us, and then our
[17:23] team will help coordinate what
[17:25] day they can do that. They'll
[17:26] work with the staff to make
[17:27] sure that they've got all the
[17:28] safety equipment and things
[17:29] that they need to do that
[17:30] effectively and safely as well.
[17:32] And then the ongoing events and
[17:34] opportunities would be things
[17:34] like our docents program. So
[17:36] any of you, if you're familiar
[17:37] with the Heald home and the
[17:38] tours that we offer of that
[17:39] space there, or the service
[17:40] learning opportunities that we
[17:41] offer through the city to these
[17:42] are all things ways for the
[17:44] residents to serve the
[17:45] community. And then helping
[17:49] shape the future. This one is
[17:50] probably the one you all are
[17:51] most familiar with, because
[17:52] these are things like the
[17:53] boards and commissions. These
[17:54] will be opportunities that I
[17:55] know all of you have some
[17:56] connection with already through
[17:57] the different, um, commissions
[17:59] and boards that you are
[18:00] liaisons for. Um, but our
[18:02] office kind of, I guess co does
[18:04] that with the mayor's office
[18:05] and the administration by
[18:07] tracking all the hours and the
[18:09] logging, all of that on the
[18:10] back end, so that we have all
[18:11] that recorded for them to be
[18:13] acknowledged on an annual basis
[18:14] for their service to the city.
[18:18] And then this slide here is
[18:19] really kind of looking at what
[18:21] we're what I picture our office
[18:23] doing moving forward. So we're
[18:24] really starting to hear a lot
[18:25] more consistent feedback on
[18:27] opportunities for youth and
[18:28] young adults. Or as I put at
[18:30] the top there, the next
[18:31] generation of engaged citizens.
[18:33] These two quotes were things
[18:34] that I heard recently that were
[18:35] really interesting and
[18:37] inspiring for me. But the first
[18:39] one on the left side there, how
[18:40] can youth make their voices
[18:41] heard? This is brought up here
[18:42] in this space just a couple of
[18:43] weeks ago by a young man that
[18:45] came by, I believe he was a Boy
[18:46] Scout, if I remember correctly,
[18:47] but he was looking for a way to
[18:49] have his voice heard and wanted
[18:50] to be a part of things that are
[18:51] happening in his city here. Um,
[18:53] on the right side. How can
[18:54] young adults or I think she
[18:55] actually said high schoolers. I
[18:56] couldn't quite remember, uh,
[18:57] get involved in give back to
[18:59] their communities. This was
[19:00] raised, uh, a question that was
[19:01] raised at the mIAC meeting just
[19:02] a couple weeks ago as well. Uh,
[19:04] I recently started serving with
[19:05] cannon on that one to get a
[19:07] little bit more involvement
[19:08] with the youth and young
[19:09] adults, to see the ways that we
[19:10] can potentially expand our
[19:12] opportunities. And before I
[19:13] could even mention that that
[19:14] was something I was interested
[19:15] in. This question was raised in
[19:16] that space. So I was like, I
[19:17] guess I'm in the right area.
[19:18] Um, but this is so all that to
[19:20] say, I don't think these were
[19:21] two isolated incidents. I don't
[19:22] think these were the only two
[19:24] youth and young adults in this
[19:25] city that are looking for ways
[19:26] to be a part of something
[19:27] bigger than themselves. Um, I
[19:29] think this is just a these are
[19:30] the two vocal ones that I heard
[19:31] more recently that are examples
[19:33] of a growing movement in that
[19:34] direction, too. So moving
[19:36] forward, this is just kind of
[19:36] some seeds that we're planting
[19:37] for the future. But this is
[19:38] something that you're going to
[19:39] see a lot more from the
[19:40] volunteer services office going
[19:42] into the next year, and things
[19:43] that we'll talk about once we
[19:44] get to budget discussions to.
[19:48] So all of that leading to the
[19:49] point of why I'm here today is
[19:51] get connected. Um, have any of
[19:52] you already heard of the Get
[19:53] Connected platform? And it's
[19:55] okay if you have not. All
[19:57] right. So Get Connected is the
[19:59] name of the platform that we
[20:01] recently have implemented. It's
[20:03] been in the the integration
[20:04] stage in the building stage for
[20:05] a couple of months here. And it
[20:06] started before I, before I got
[20:08] here in April. But this is
[20:09] intended to be a one stop shop
[20:11] for all of those engagement
[20:12] opportunities that we just
[20:13] talked about on the different
[20:14] slides there. But this is
[20:16] supposed to be a space where
[20:17] residents from anywhere they've
[20:19] been connected with us in the
[20:20] past or if they have, are
[20:21] wanting to seek us out for the
[20:22] first time. If they were
[20:23] wanting to find an opportunity
[20:24] to get involved, they can go to
[20:26] the site, they can look at all
[20:27] the details as far as like when
[20:28] what's the commitment level
[20:29] look like? What do I need to
[20:31] have? What qualifications? When
[20:33] do they meet? Where do they
[20:34] meet all those kinds of pieces?
[20:35] There? They can then request to
[20:37] be a part of that opportunity
[20:38] by creating an account. It's
[20:40] just an email is really all it
[20:41] needs. And then that will allow
[20:43] them to be on our radar so that
[20:44] we can follow up with them for
[20:45] future opportunities to serve
[20:46] as well. Um, the bonus I put
[20:48] down there is having their
[20:49] lifetime hours logged. Like I
[20:50] said, Bill is in our system and
[20:51] he has far and far and away
[20:54] many more than the second
[20:55] closest volunteer. So we have
[20:57] lifetime hours logged from even
[20:59] before we were in Get Connected
[21:00] because we did have another
[21:01] database before this one as
[21:02] well. And then that little
[21:03] piece at the bottom right
[21:04] corner just says that the
[21:05] council accounts are ready. If
[21:06] you haven't already received
[21:07] anything to your council email
[21:09] address, you should have, but
[21:11] there is an account that was
[21:12] created for you that is that will that will be
[21:15] connected to that city account
[21:16] so that you have the
[21:17] opportunity to log in and check
[21:18] out some of these opportunities
[21:19] to if you haven't, just get in
[21:21] touch with me and I will find a
[21:23] way to get you.
[21:23] Connected with you. I haven't, you haven't, I have
[21:26] not received an email on it.
[21:27] Okay. You know, it might not
[21:28] actually create the account
[21:30] then it just puts it into the
[21:31] system so that when you log in,
[21:32] it recognizes that. Um, because
[21:34] I know that Katie just uploaded
[21:36] that for the new council
[21:37] members that weren't here last
[21:38] year, but all of you that were
[21:40] here last year as well were
[21:41] already in ballistics. And all
[21:42] of that data was transferred
[21:43] over to this system here. So
[21:45] I'll look into that a little
[21:46] bit more with the team, and
[21:47] we'll follow up on that. So
[21:51] this is a quick screenshot of
[21:52] what that site looks like. Um,
[21:53] but this is I didn't want to
[21:55] take you through the whole site
[21:56] demo right now. It'd be a
[21:57] little bit too much to go into
[21:58] tonight. And I hear this
[21:59] electron does not have
[22:00] internet. So, um, this is just
[22:02] a screenshot of that main page.
[22:03] The programs is the first thing
[22:04] that you see. Each of those
[22:05] boxes, they're the first three
[22:06] that are listed are adopter
[22:08] programs, boards, commissions
[22:09] and committees. And then
[22:10] community outreach. Um, there
[22:12] are 12 of those programs total
[22:13] right now that are on that
[22:14] site, but we are still in that
[22:15] building out stage. So you're
[22:17] probably going to see a few
[22:18] changes to this site as we go
[22:20] forward. Um, one of those is
[22:22] already the youth and Youth and
[22:23] young adults programs, or youth
[22:25] service opportunities,
[22:26] something in that realm. Um,
[22:27] but that's the piece that we
[22:28] are building out right now. So
[22:29] that that student that asks for
[22:31] mine and the the student that
[22:32] asked, I'm here at the council
[22:33] meeting a few weeks ago, have
[22:34] those opportunities readily
[22:35] available for them to see what
[22:37] they can be a part of. The
[22:38] other piece that's pretty
[22:39] customizable is that left hand
[22:40] side? Um, it says, um, put my
[22:43] oh, I guess it's right in front
[22:44] of me. Oh, you got remembering
[22:45] nine 11, the volunteer
[22:46] newsletter, Senior resources,
[22:48] veteran resources, community
[22:50] resources. These are all pieces
[22:51] that we can customize and that
[22:53] we have selected to have right
[22:54] there on the front display
[22:55] page. For instance, the
[22:56] remembering nine over 11.
[22:57] That's not there year round.
[22:59] That's something that we put up
[22:59] because obviously the event is
[23:01] coming up and we have a couple
[23:02] different events commemorating
[23:04] that date coming up tomorrow
[23:05] and on Saturday. So after this
[23:07] weekend, we're going to swap
[23:08] that out for the next set of
[23:09] events that's coming up. So
[23:10] that is something that we will
[23:12] use to make sure that this is
[23:13] always up to date. And the most
[23:15] relevant for the citizens on
[23:16] this page.
[23:19] Honor on the boards and
[23:21] commissions. Does that get back
[23:24] to Katie?
[23:25] It does. Yeah. So when they
[23:26] click on that one, that one in
[23:27] particular takes them to a page
[23:29] that tells them what the
[23:29] different boards and
[23:30] commissions are and how to
[23:32] apply for those.
[23:33] And that'll link that. And then
[23:34] that goes to Katie, right?
[23:36] Yes. Yeah. It leaks them to
[23:37] that general application that
[23:38] tells them how to go through
[23:39] Katie and the rest of your team
[23:40] for that.
[23:41] Thank you.
[23:44] So if you hear any of these, phrases or
[23:47] anything else that's in this
[23:48] realm, how can I give back? How
[23:50] can I get involved? I want to
[23:51] make a difference in my
[23:52] community. Anything like this.
[23:54] should hopefully trigger
[23:55] this conversation today or
[23:57] trigger memory for this
[23:57] conversation today, where the
[23:59] guy that spoke a little too
[24:00] quickly and rambled at times
[24:01] came and told you about a
[24:02] system that connects them with
[24:04] those opportunities called Get
[24:06] Connected. Um, so this right
[24:07] here, this obviously you don't
[24:09] have to scan this right now.
[24:10] It's all on the TV here for
[24:11] O'Fallon TV. But, um, this is
[24:13] an opportunity to go to the
[24:15] site here. All of your
[24:16] residents can go to this site
[24:17] and look for those ways to get
[24:19] involved. If any of them have
[24:20] questions beyond what we offer
[24:22] there, or if they're looking
[24:23] for something that we don't
[24:24] offer that's not currently
[24:25] listed on that site, that does
[24:27] not mean that it can't exist.
[24:28] Just connect them with our
[24:29] office, connect them with me
[24:30] directly, and I'd be happy to
[24:31] start talking to talking about
[24:32] opportunities for growing the program moving
[24:35] forward. With that, I believe.
[24:39] Yes, I will open that up to any
[24:40] questions that you guys have.
[24:41] Questions for. Hunter, Mr.
[24:43] Wexler?
[24:44] Thank you. Not really a
[24:45] question. I just tried to log
[24:46] in there, and when you put your
[24:47] city city email in, it
[24:49] automatically sends you a
[24:50] password reset to your city
[24:52] email. Super easy. Okay. You
[24:55] just reset your password and
[24:58] quickly log in. So super easy.
[25:00] That's great to know. I
[25:00] appreciate.
[25:01] What happens when your code
[25:02] doesn't work.
[25:04] Then you let me know and I'll
[25:06] follow up with you on that.
[25:07] Yeah.
[25:08] My code doesn't work.
[25:10] Okay, I'll follow up with you.
[25:12] Mr. Palmer.
[25:14] Uh, welcome to the city. I
[25:15] think you got about as much
[25:16] time as half of us up here.
[25:18] Sure. Clearly doing much better
[25:19] than we are. So, uh, especially
[25:21] on the rambling part. I speak
[25:23] for myself on that one. I did
[25:24] have a couple questions,
[25:25] though. Um, have you? Well,
[25:28] three questions. One is, can
[25:29] they also get there through the
[25:30] city website? So if they go to
[25:31] the city website, they'll say,
[25:32] okay, good. Yes. And then have
[25:34] you thought about I don't know
[25:35] if we can do this or if there's
[25:36] an ability, but I think about
[25:38] churches and they have youth
[25:39] groups and they have the same
[25:40] thing where a lot of these
[25:41] questions get asked, how can I
[25:42] go do that? I don't know if
[25:43] there's a way to outreach
[25:44] specifically to ecclesiastical
[25:45] leaders in the community, but
[25:47] that might be an opportunity.
[25:48] And then the other thought I
[25:49] had was, do you present to like
[25:51] the senior advisory Committee?
[25:52] Because it feels like I mean,
[25:54] there might be a lot of
[25:55] opportunities there that are on
[25:56] there unaware of. So just some
[25:57] thoughts.
[25:58] Yes, absolutely. Uh, and to
[26:00] I'll see if I can remember all
[26:01] three of those in order for the
[26:02] first one. Yes. If you go to
[26:03] the city's website and then you
[26:05] visit the volunteer services
[26:06] page, or if you just I've
[26:07] tested this a few times. If you
[26:08] just Google volunteer O'Fallon,
[26:10] um, then this is the first site
[26:11] that pops up and it'll take you
[26:13] to a I think it'll take you to
[26:14] the city's web page first,
[26:15] which has a direct link to this
[26:17] portal. And then for the second
[26:19] question, as far as getting in
[26:20] touch with the local churches
[26:21] and congregations in the area.
[26:23] Yes, that is an opportunity.
[26:25] It's listed on the website on
[26:26] that main page for O'Fallon of
[26:28] like if you are a group looking
[26:29] to provide service to the city
[26:31] in some way, then you can get
[26:32] in touch with us and we can set
[26:33] that up. So a lot of times we
[26:35] see that through the, uh, serve
[26:37] days that I was talking about
[26:38] on.
[26:40] Um.
[26:42] This page here. Um, so a lot of
[26:43] times we'll either be contacted
[26:45] by local businesses or churches
[26:46] or any other group of people in
[26:48] this area that want to clean up
[26:50] a park that's near their
[26:51] location or near their church
[26:52] building. Then they can reach
[26:53] out to us and set that up.
[26:55] Something that I am looking
[26:56] personally to doing is kind of
[26:58] in this realm is reaching out
[26:59] to specifically youth groups in
[27:00] the area as well, looking for
[27:02] ways that those groups can get
[27:03] involved. And if they haven't
[27:04] thought about service in some
[27:05] capacity in, you know already,
[27:07] if they haven't been talking
[27:08] about that, that's something
[27:09] that I am personally planning
[27:10] on connecting with them and
[27:12] seeing if they're aware of. And
[27:14] then the I did forget the third
[27:16] question. What was that third
[27:17] one?
[27:18] Seniors.
[27:18] Yes. Um, so the
[27:20] seniors, I actually right when
[27:21] I started, I was invited to
[27:22] come and speak at the Senior
[27:23] Resident Advisory Committee. So
[27:26] I've made a connection there
[27:26] with, uh, the chairman of their
[27:28] board. And then I also have
[27:29] that connection, I believe,
[27:31] with his wife in our office as
[27:32] well. So, um, they're very
[27:34] aware of the things that we're
[27:35] offering as far as the
[27:36] introduction of Get Connected
[27:37] goes. But it's also a it's a
[27:39] pathway that we've opened up by
[27:40] me attending that meeting.
[27:43] Amanda, hi.
[27:45] Nice to meet you. Uh, I had a
[27:49] question about specifically the
[27:52] commissions when on that one,
[27:54] the commissions and boards. You
[27:56] go to that page and you said
[27:58] there's a way to apply. I was
[28:00] wondering if there's anything
[28:02] that connects people to the
[28:05] members of that board. I'm
[28:06] thinking of, like cultural
[28:08] arts. I was on there if if
[28:10] someone, one of our residents
[28:11] had a question directly for
[28:13] cultural arts, there's no way
[28:15] for them to actually get in
[28:16] touch with the people on that
[28:18] board right now. Yeah. And I
[28:19] just wondered if that was
[28:21] something that you could even
[28:22] add or do on there.
[28:25] That is a great question that I
[28:26] may have to defer, because I
[28:27] don't know if I oversee the the
[28:28] functioning of those boards to
[28:30] that extent. Would that be.
[28:32] My my suggestion would be if
[28:34] it's possible for them to
[28:36] contact the liaison for that
[28:38] Border Commission, because we
[28:40] have each one of.
[28:41] You on there.
[28:42] Each one of you is that would
[28:44] be a Mister Michalka question.
[28:47] But he's not over there. So but
[28:49] my my thing is I would each one
[28:53] of you is on a border, uh,
[28:55] liaison to one of the boards
[28:56] and commissions. So if one of
[28:58] those residents had a question
[29:00] to me that would go to I don't want to send it to the
[29:04] chairman of that. I really
[29:06] don't to me, it should go to
[29:08] the liaison.
[29:09] So maybe even to put the
[29:11] liaison contact on those
[29:13] commissions. They know who the
[29:14] liaison is or something like
[29:16] that. It's just that I know a
[29:17] lot of people have how do I get
[29:19] in contact with planning and
[29:21] zoning or something like that, they have no way to get in
[29:24] contact with them. So, and they
[29:26] don't know who to go to.
[29:27] I agree, I agree with what
[29:29] Mayor Hennessy said, and we
[29:31] have talked about this in the
[29:32] past, and I can't remember if
[29:33] it was with Tony or with Tom,
[29:35] but there was hesitation to put
[29:37] those the the residents that
[29:39] serve on the Commission, their
[29:41] information on the website. So
[29:43] we have refrained from doing
[29:44] that for that reason. But we
[29:46] could certainly find a way,
[29:47] whether it's on volunteer
[29:49] services or within the city's
[29:51] website, to list the liaison.
[29:54] Anybody else? Debbie.
[29:58] Thank you. Mayor. Welcome,
[29:59] Hunter. It's nice.
[29:59] To see you. Thank you. Um.
[30:01] There's a lot of high schoolers
[30:02] that need, uh, service hours.
[30:04] Yes. So do you have a spot
[30:06] where they can maybe reach out
[30:08] to the city for things like
[30:09] that?
[30:09] Yeah. So that is a, uh, a
[30:11] network that I'm building out
[30:12] currently. So I've started
[30:13] reaching out to some of the
[30:14] local high schools here to
[30:15] establish the either the A+
[30:16] contact for their school or the
[30:18] NHS sponsor for their program
[30:20] as well. And that is I'm going
[30:22] to start building out a
[30:22] consistent, uh, communication
[30:24] thread with them to whenever we
[30:25] have something like an HF
[30:26] coming up, I can send out the
[30:28] information to all of those
[30:29] contacts at the same time and
[30:30] say, we have these
[30:31] opportunities, because this
[30:32] year we fortunately, we didn't
[30:34] have any gaps that were unable
[30:35] to be covered in some other
[30:37] capacity, but we did have some
[30:38] gaps going into HF that we
[30:40] could have had some more hands
[30:41] on for. And so, I mean, before
[30:43] here, I'm coming from a, a role
[30:45] at a university. So I'm, I know
[30:47] a lot of fraternities and
[30:48] sororities need service hours.
[30:49] A lot of other clubs on need
[30:51] the same thing too. So planning
[30:52] on getting in touch, kind of
[30:53] broadening a little bit outside
[30:54] of O'Fallon and going over to
[30:55] like Saint Charles Community
[30:56] College or even Lindenwood to
[30:58] establish some of those
[30:59] connections to to see if we can
[31:00] get a little bit more
[31:01] engagement from that
[31:02] population.
[31:03] That's great, because I know
[31:04] when my kids were older, when
[31:06] they were in high school and
[31:07] stuff, they were always looking
[31:08] for service hours. So that's a
[31:09] great revenue avenue to go to.
[31:12] So thank you.
[31:12] Sure. Yeah.
[31:13] The service hours
[31:14] component. And then also the
[31:15] uh, just the resume building
[31:16] from that age.
[31:17] Okay. Anybody else?
[31:19] Amanda., I'm following up on my
[31:22] one and stuck on it. Is there
[31:24] even maybe a way that the
[31:26] board, like the president of
[31:28] the board, could have an
[31:29] offline email address that they
[31:31] can contact?
[31:32] Mayor.
[31:33] The, uh, liaison for all of the
[31:35] boards and commissions is on
[31:36] the board and commission
[31:37] webpage, as well as the
[31:39] recording secretary with their
[31:40] email address so they can reach
[31:42] out to the city through that.
[31:43] It's on every page for those
[31:45] commissions.
[31:46] Okay. I thought somebody up
[31:48] there was speaking to me when I
[31:50] was this way.
[31:50] So it.
[31:51] Was. Okay. Anybody else?
[31:58] Thanks. Hunter Thomas.
[31:59] Thanks.
[31:59] Thank you all for your.
[32:00] Time.
[32:03] Next is amending. Amending
[32:06] section one 10.200 Manor of
[32:09] Judson City Council. Miss
[32:11] Spencer, this is yours.
[32:13] I. What do you want me to talk
[32:16] about?
[32:17] This is what you requested.
[32:19] I think this is a wonderful
[32:20] idea. I think it gives our
[32:22] residents an opportunity to
[32:24] come in here and speak on, you
[32:25] know, whatever they want to
[32:27] speak on, in matters pertaining
[32:30] to the city of O'Fallon. They
[32:32] can't just come in here and
[32:33] talk about anything and
[32:34] everything. Um, and I think
[32:37] that it used to be this way.
[32:39] Right. Um, and then we put the
[32:41] limits on it, which I think was
[32:44] probably warranted at the time.
[32:45] And I think we can maybe kind
[32:47] of loosen that up a little bit,
[32:49] allow the first ten people with
[32:52] a comment card to speak on
[32:53] whatever they want to speak on.
[32:54] And I think that the residents
[32:56] deserve that right.
[32:58] There's a couple things, you
[33:00] know, are you going to allow
[33:02] them to beat up on city staff?
[33:07] No, I don't think it would be
[33:08] kind of what it is. Now.
[33:09] Hold on, hold on. Because what
[33:12] you're going to get, okay,
[33:14] you're going to have people
[33:15] come out and say, hey, this is
[33:16] city business. I'm going to
[33:17] beat up on planning and zoning.
[33:20] I'm going to beat up on the
[33:21] police department. I'm going to
[33:22] beat up on finance. I'm going
[33:23] to beat up on engineering, I'm
[33:25] going to beat up on it. And
[33:26] they will call them people out
[33:29] because it has happened before.
[33:32] So you're drawing a very fine
[33:35] line if you're going to allow
[33:36] somebody to speak. You know,
[33:40] okay. What happens when
[33:42] somebody comes and says, what
[33:44] are you going to do about the
[33:45] vaccine vaccinations going on
[33:47] in the city of O'Fallon?
[33:50] Granted, we don't have anything
[33:51] to do with the vaccine because
[33:52] that's the health department.
[33:53] But, you know, there's a whole
[33:56] lot of things that you're
[33:59] saying on city business. To me,
[34:03] that is it's a wide range. So I
[34:09] mean, this we're running the
[34:12] meetings are a city business.
[34:15] And to me, they have other ways
[34:17] to contact staff. They have
[34:21] contact the elected officials.
[34:24] You know, anybody else? Mr.
[34:29] Wilcox?
[34:30] So it was open agenda at one
[34:33] point years ago. Is that
[34:34] correct?
[34:35] Uh, 6 or 7 years ago, somewhere
[34:38] around there.
[34:38] So what was it? Did something
[34:40] happen to warrant the change?
[34:42] All those things.
[34:43] All things that I just
[34:44] mentioned. We had people coming
[34:46] up just. Putting our staff down,
[34:53] saying that they were part of a
[34:55] what was it, a country club,
[35:00] people? I mean, to me, that's
[35:02] not what they're here for.
[35:04] They're not here to get reamed
[35:07] and everything else from. The
[35:13] residents to me, if they have a
[35:15] problem, they get Ahold of Mr.
[35:17] Snowden or one of the elected
[35:19] officials and say, I have a
[35:21] problem with this department
[35:24] head. Mr. Snowden, can you look
[35:26] into this? He will look into it.
[35:30] So, Mr. Lake.
[35:33] Mayor, on that, you know, um,
[35:35] is there not an implied level
[35:37] of decorum that needs to be
[35:39] maintained where, you know, if
[35:41] there starts to be a personal
[35:42] attack rather than an attack on
[35:44] an issue or a department that
[35:46] the presiding officer can, you
[35:48] know, either allow them to make
[35:50] them forfeit their time or mute
[35:52] the mic.
[35:53] Yes, and I've done that before.
[35:55] But they keep they keep going.
[35:57] I mean, I do not want to put
[36:00] staff in that in that
[36:04] predicament, I really don't.
[36:06] They're here to answer our
[36:09] questions. They're not here to
[36:11] get beaten up by the residents.
[36:14] Miss Taylor.
[36:16] I mean, I was going to mention
[36:18] that we have it specifically in
[36:20] the ordinance to, uh, respect,
[36:23] you know, keep decorum. And,
[36:26] uh, I think that should handle
[36:28] it. I mean, if we can't control
[36:31] them after that, I mean, don't
[36:32] we have security here that can
[36:33] bring them out or something
[36:34] like that? But it's in here
[36:37] that they have to follow
[36:38] decorum, and it's written in
[36:40] that ordinance. So, uh, I think
[36:42] that shouldn't be a problem. I
[36:45] know that people, even council
[36:47] members that were on this
[36:49] council before, no longer here
[36:51] and voted, uh, for this change.
[36:54] I've heard we, Corey and I both
[36:57] have heard from several that
[36:59] are glad we brought this back
[37:00] up, because it does silence.
[37:02] You know, it it might be. I
[37:04] think we all can probably look
[37:05] around and and look at our
[37:07] meetings and know why this was
[37:09] implemented or who this was
[37:10] implemented for. Um, a certain
[37:13] person that comes here and
[37:15] speaks and, and attempt, I
[37:18] think, to silence one person.
[37:20] We have silenced the entire,
[37:21] you know, city, all its
[37:24] residents in the city. And
[37:26] that's wrong. And it certainly
[37:27] hasn't even silenced that one
[37:29] person, you know, and and they
[37:32] still come in here sometimes
[37:33] and may attack. But that's when
[37:35] we step in and we say that's
[37:37] not appropriate. But I mean,
[37:40] this is this is this isn't like
[37:43] we're up here. I'm going to
[37:45] talk about, of course, my ward
[37:46] report. But this isn't like
[37:47] we're up here on some throne,
[37:49] and and the people have to
[37:50] listen to us. I mean, the
[37:53] people are our bosses, you
[37:55] know, they should come in here
[37:56] and tell us the problems that
[37:57] they're having, and. And you're
[38:00] going to tell your boss, oh,
[38:01] you can't come, and you can
[38:02] only speak on this like we've
[38:04] kept it, that we speak on
[38:05] topics that are pertaining to a
[38:08] city business, that they can't
[38:10] just come in here and start
[38:11] attacking our families or
[38:12] anything like that. So and it's
[38:17] kind of funny, I haven't even
[38:18] seen a city around that does
[38:19] anything like this. I've asked
[38:21] there's no other city that does
[38:22] anything like this. We're the
[38:25] only ones, so it's crazy.
[38:34] Mr. Palmer.
[38:36] Uh, yeah, I got a series of
[38:37] questions. Um, kind of already
[38:39] answered. What's? Well, I mean,
[38:41] what what is driving the change
[38:44] now? Um, and is our current
[38:47] process for citizens to get
[38:48] their voices heard? I'm asking
[38:50] because up until two weeks ago,
[38:52] I had not had anybody raised
[38:54] the issue to me. Um, until two
[38:57] weeks ago when somebody figured
[38:58] out that they couldn't speak on
[38:59] agenda item. So are you I mean,
[39:02] what is driving the change or
[39:04] the proposed change?
[39:07] Corey. It's yours.
[39:09] Because we feel that people
[39:11] have a right to come in here
[39:12] and say what they want to say,
[39:13] whether it's on an agenda item
[39:14] or not. And again, this was the
[39:16] way before. And Amanda's right.
[39:18] We there were changes made for
[39:20] very obvious reasons. And you
[39:24] know, you still have a few
[39:27] individuals. I don't want a
[39:28] single one person out, um, that
[39:31] come in here and, and talk and talk. And I've heard
[39:34] mayor say time and time again,
[39:35] your time is up. You can't say
[39:36] that. You can't talk about
[39:37] that. And that's fine, because
[39:38] that's how it's currently
[39:39] written. But I think if they're
[39:41] if you're going to maintain a
[39:43] level of respect and a level of
[39:44] decorum, and if you if you
[39:46] deviate from that, then it gets
[39:48] shut down. And if they want to
[39:49] keep hooting and hollering and
[39:50] screaming and yelling or, or
[39:51] act a certain way, then that's
[39:52] precisely why we have security
[39:56] here. And they can leave and
[39:58] then they don't get to come
[39:59] back and speak. If you can't be
[40:02] respectful and not attack staff
[40:04] and not attack certain council
[40:06] members, it's meant to address
[40:07] council as a whole, not to come
[40:09] in here and say, Mr. Palmer, I
[40:11] have a problem with you, Mr.
[40:12] Woods. I have a problem with
[40:13] you, Miss Spencer. I have a
[40:14] problem with you. That's not
[40:15] what it is meant for. It is
[40:16] meant for people to come and
[40:18] voice their concerns on things
[40:19] that they feel are important to
[40:22] them. And I think silencing
[40:23] them is it's not an okay to
[40:25] silence the people that put us
[40:26] in these seats, and I'll die on
[40:28] that hill.
[40:30] Yeah.
[40:31] Go ahead, Mr. Palmer. You still
[40:32] have.
[40:33] The floor. Yeah. Sorry. I got,
[40:34] like, five questions. Um, so.
[40:37] I guess, uh, was it all
[40:39] because of the one individual,
[40:40] or was it more than that? I
[40:41] mean, that wasn't here. The the
[40:44] reason for the original change
[40:47] because I can't, I, I mean, I
[40:48] don't it would be if I may.
[40:50] Yeah. Those who have speculated
[40:55] as.
[40:55] To the reason.
[40:56] Why in 2020, this ordinance was
[40:58] adopted were not members of the
[41:00] council at the time, were not
[41:02] parties to the debate or
[41:04] discussion that took place, or
[41:05] any other briefing that the
[41:07] Council received at the time.
[41:09] And I think it would be
[41:12] unfortunate if the public came
[41:14] to believe that this
[41:18] legislation was adopted with
[41:20] respect to silence. One person
[41:22] that was not the case is not
[41:26] the case now, and was not the
[41:29] case then. Okay. I mean, that
[41:32] was okay. I'm sorry. I assume
[41:34] you're going to respond to
[41:35] that.
[41:35] Thank you. Yes. Thank you. So
[41:38] what if you can come in here
[41:39] and speak on an agenda item?
[41:41] What is stopping that person
[41:43] from quote unquote, attacking
[41:45] any of the staff on that agenda
[41:46] item? What would you do in that
[41:47] case? You would shut it down.
[41:49] They would they would be
[41:50] escorted out if necessary or
[41:52] told to sit down. And your time
[41:54] is up. Why is it different if
[41:56] they can speak on any agenda
[41:57] item, it would be the same
[41:59] outcome. So they can come in
[42:01] here. And as long as the item
[42:02] is on the agenda, they can
[42:04] attack staff all they want just
[42:05] because it's not on the agenda.
[42:08] I'm not I'm not understanding
[42:10] the logic there because we
[42:11] allow people to speak on agenda
[42:13] items. So if your argument is
[42:15] that they're going to come in
[42:16] here and attack staff, they can
[42:17] already do that and you're
[42:18] going to shut them down
[42:19] anyways. So what is the what is
[42:22] the issue with opening it up
[42:23] and having the same course of
[42:27] action? If they come in here
[42:28] and are not respectful?
[42:34] Next question.
[42:37] Um, the next question kind of
[42:40] tied to what was already
[42:41] mentioned when I read the
[42:43] ordinance, the preexisting
[42:44] ordinance that says all remarks
[42:46] shall be addressed to city
[42:47] council as a body and not to
[42:48] the individual member thereof.
[42:50] Um, if we proceed with this,
[42:51] I'd like to have some strength
[42:52] and language in there to
[42:54] specifically state that to
[42:56] include the staff exclusion so
[42:57] they are not to address staff
[42:58] period. And, uh, if anyone
[43:01] violates decorum or attacks any
[43:04] individual, then they by
[43:07] default lost their time. I
[43:08] think the current one says that
[43:09] if they, uh, deviate from the
[43:11] agenda item, they lose their
[43:12] time. And so I think I think a
[43:14] mitigation would be to include
[43:15] that in there as well. I also
[43:17] had a question around, um, when
[43:20] it said, and I'm, I'm not a
[43:21] lawyer. Uh, but when it says by
[43:23] majority vote of the members
[43:25] then present, does that mean if
[43:26] there are five council members
[43:27] there, then you only need three
[43:29] votes? And this is in reference
[43:30] to cutting off all of in any
[43:32] one meeting. I think you can
[43:34] cut off. It allows like a cut
[43:36] off or a stop to the comments.
[43:37] Is that what that verbiage
[43:39] means, or does that mean you
[43:40] need six even if you only have
[43:41] seven? And in session.
[43:43] Well.
[43:44] You can't run a meeting with
[43:45] five councilmen.
[43:46] Okay. So then six if you have
[43:48] six, uh, do you only need 4 or
[43:51] 3? Three tie in. The mayor
[43:52] breaks. I'm trying to
[43:53] understand. Is it like the
[43:54] other items that you always
[43:56] need? Six or in this case is a
[43:58] verb. The verbiage allow
[44:00] something less than six.
[44:01] Just one thing that the only
[44:02] thing that you need six votes
[44:03] for is on an ordinance.
[44:05] Everything else is a simple
[44:06] majority.
[44:07] Of those present.
[44:08] Of those legislation.
[44:10] I mean, on
[44:12] resolutions, it's it's a simple
[44:14] majority. So if there's six
[44:16] councilmen here, a four two
[44:18] vote or a three three vote, I
[44:20] break the tie.
[44:21] That makes sense. And then, um.
[44:27] What was the other question
[44:28] going to be? I got two more,
[44:29] uh, the limitation on the you
[44:32] already talked about some of
[44:33] the reasons I'm getting, the
[44:35] sense that those that were
[44:36] around at that time does not
[44:38] feel like what's currently
[44:39] written would still mitigate
[44:42] some of that risk, while giving
[44:43] the perception of a more open
[44:45] meeting. Is that and if not,
[44:48] then can we? What can we do to
[44:50] draft in there to help mitigate
[44:51] those? I'm I'm. This is going
[44:53] to sound really bad. I'm a
[44:54] little torn on it. Um, I think
[44:57] people should have the chance
[44:59] to address, um, I also think
[45:02] there's kind of already an
[45:03] opportunity for them to address
[45:04] any of us, because I get talks
[45:06] all the time and emails and
[45:07] contacts. What I would hate to
[45:10] see also happen is that a line
[45:12] of a thousand people all take
[45:13] three minutes just to blow our
[45:15] time and be difficult. Um, I
[45:17] know that's an extreme, but I
[45:19] just I think there's a happy
[45:21] medium in here somewhere, but
[45:23] we're really going to rely on
[45:24] those who are around to help us
[45:27] draft in there what we can do
[45:29] to mitigate that risk, to
[45:30] ensure we don't repeat back
[45:31] into what drove it the first
[45:33] time around, while still again,
[45:34] given the perception of being
[45:36] more open.
[45:36] I can tell you there's out of the 11 elected officials
[45:40] sitting up here at the time,
[45:42] there's only two sitting
[45:43] remaining. So just to answer
[45:48] your question.
[45:49] So then there I posed the
[45:50] question. The two of you are
[45:52] out of the risks that you see.
[45:55] What could we put in there that
[45:56] would help mitigate it? And
[45:57] then we would remind everybody
[45:58] up front, hey, don't break
[46:01] these rules or you're gone.
[46:02] Like, we're doing this for a
[46:04] reason, but not to be abused.
[46:05] So.
[46:07] Okay. Mister Wilcox.
[46:12] , so I like your idea. Like
[46:14] before the public comment
[46:16] section would start. I mean,
[46:17] maybe we there's a disclaimer
[46:19] where we say this. You can
[46:21] address your agenda item.
[46:22] There's no personal attacks,
[46:23] you know, just a short little
[46:25] thing.
[46:26] It's on everybody.
[46:26] It's on the back of the card.
[46:28] Okay. And then lemon limiting
[46:30] you know, there can only be a
[46:32] limit of 10 or 20 per meeting.
[46:35] You can't have 100, obviously.
[46:36] So is that in there like I
[46:37] didn't I don't think I saw it
[46:38] in there is is putting a
[46:40] number. Um, so I guess that's
[46:42] part of my point is if there
[46:43] was a concern that people were
[46:45] lining up out the door just to
[46:46] complain, then we say, hey,
[46:48] first whatever number, I don't
[46:49] know.
[46:51] I'm I would be totally against
[46:54] that. You're going to put ten
[46:56] people first. Ten people come
[46:58] in and want to speak on
[46:59] whatever they want to talk
[47:00] about. Number 11 walks in and
[47:05] wants to speak. I'll guarantee
[47:07] you right now, eight out of ten
[47:09] of you will say, let the 11
[47:12] person speak.
[47:14] Or I would say on the next, or
[47:16] be faster to.
[47:16] The next number on it.
[47:18] You cannot put a number.
[47:20] On it.
[47:21] Because if if what you guys are
[47:23] saying, you're going to allow
[47:26] 60 people to walk in here and
[47:28] talk about whatever they want
[47:29] to talk about for three
[47:32] minutes, and no, you cannot
[47:33] say, you know, we've already
[47:35] heard this, we've already heard
[47:37] this move on. If you're going
[47:41] to do this, you're going to
[47:42] open up wide open for however
[47:46] many people want to talk. And
[47:48] to miss Spencer's point, you
[47:51] can't kick them out. I mean,
[47:52] yeah, you can make them leave
[47:54] that meeting, but they can come
[47:56] back the next meeting.
[47:57] And. then keep coming. Their
[47:58] attitude, because it is.
[47:59] It's their First Amendment
[48:01] right to come to these meetings.
[48:07] Miss Taylor.
[48:10] Um, first, I mean, let's be
[48:13] honest, we maybe have 1 or 2
[48:17] people in the that come to
[48:18] these meetings. I'm not worried
[48:20] that thousand I mean, even
[48:23] worried that ten people are
[48:24] going to come and sign a
[48:26] comment card unless there's a
[48:27] problem and that's usually on
[48:29] the agenda item. I mean, that's
[48:30] a moot point for me. And I did
[48:33] want to comment because you
[48:34] asked Corey about, um, why now?
[48:37] And the timing. And I did bring
[48:39] this up last year with our
[48:41] strategic plan, wanting to do
[48:42] this. Um, but we do constantly
[48:46] get asked, uh, to people to
[48:48] come and speak on something. I
[48:50] mean, I know me and Corey have
[48:52] multiple times had to tell
[48:54] people, no, they can't come and
[48:56] speak on that because it's not
[48:57] on the agenda item. So, I mean,
[49:00] having to tell people that
[49:01] right there, I'm embarrassed to
[49:03] like, yeah, our council is
[49:06] telling you you can't come and
[49:07] speak on something in the city
[49:09] that you want to speak on. You
[49:11] know, I know last week I think
[49:13] Council Member Wilcox had
[49:14] someone here that wanted to
[49:16] speak, and it was just
[49:17] something about the storm
[49:17] damage, you know? And, I mean,
[49:20] they couldn't come and speak.
[49:21] So I think this is an ongoing
[49:23] issue that I've seen over the
[49:25] last year that people have a
[49:27] problem with not being able to
[49:29] come up and talk to us.
[49:31] Go ahead, Mr. Palmer.
[49:32] So, I mean, I want to ask, is
[49:34] that is that a true statement
[49:35] that there is no way for them
[49:36] to come and I and I when I, asked that question, I'm
[49:39] not limited to council meeting
[49:41] itself. Like if somebody has an
[49:43] issue on a topic, can't they be
[49:44] invited to come and speak on it
[49:46] as an agenda item on the
[49:48] workshop?
[49:50] We normally do not have
[49:53] residents speak at the workshop.
[49:55] Very, very rarely do we have a
[49:58] resident speak at the workshop.
[50:00] But speak is in like a ad hoc
[50:04] impromptu coming and speaking.
[50:06] Could we not invite them to
[50:08] come and share their views on a
[50:10] certain topic? I'm just asking.
[50:12] I'm trying to understand like
[50:13] what really is a limitation and
[50:15] what is really not a limitation.
[50:18] I can I'm I'm just as new. Half
[50:21] of us, I'm learning.
[50:22] Go ahead. Amanda.
[50:24] Um, there was only one time
[50:26] that I've given up my ward
[50:28] report just to let someone
[50:30] speak, and I gave it up there,
[50:33] because I did. I didn't think
[50:34] they should deserve to come
[50:35] here and speak, and we weren't
[50:37] listening. So I gave my ward
[50:38] report. That's been the only
[50:39] time I've actually seen someone
[50:42] able to speak outside of the
[50:44] agenda items. So.
[50:46] Mr. Lincoln.
[50:47] Thank you. Mayor. Uh, the one
[50:49] remark I want to make falls
[50:50] back on some experience on
[50:52] planning and zoning. So
[50:54] occasionally, you know, the
[50:55] contentious topic comes up. Um,
[50:58] a couple of times that's
[50:59] happened. Generally, the
[51:01] speakers have respected the
[51:03] direction of the presiding
[51:04] officer, in which, you know,
[51:06] there should be an effort made
[51:08] not to repeat the same
[51:10] information or arguments over
[51:11] and over. So, you know, I think
[51:13] on some we've had 6 or 7
[51:14] speakers and maybe 2 or 3,
[51:17] we'll use the full three
[51:18] minutes, but others may just
[51:20] get up there and say, uh, you
[51:21] know, I'm just here to support
[51:23] this view. My points have
[51:24] already been argued and they
[51:25] respect the time.
[51:27] So sorry, Corey, I just want to
[51:29] I know your hands been up a
[51:30] while, but I just want to hit
[51:31] this one. Um, so I mean, that's
[51:32] an example to me of that would
[51:35] be a mitigation we could put in
[51:36] place. Right. That says, hey,
[51:37] if you're going to repeat what
[51:38] somebody else is, has said,
[51:40] like raise your hand or
[51:41] something to indicate your
[51:42] support of what they're saying
[51:43] so we don't have to hear it 13
[51:45] times over. But we still get a
[51:46] point of, are we here? We can
[51:49] see the quantity of folks that
[51:50] support or agree with what's
[51:51] being stated. I mean, that's I
[51:53] guess, an example of what I'm
[51:54] asking about.
[51:56] Absolutely. And I don't know if
[51:57] that needs to be explicitly
[51:59] written out in the bill
[52:00] language. I think that can
[52:00] probably fall within the the
[52:02] quorum and the guidance of the
[52:04] presiding officer.
[52:08] I'm not trying to rewrite
[52:09] history here, people. I'm
[52:11] trying to change one small
[52:13] thing. Nothing changes outside
[52:16] of the fact that you can
[52:18] discuss items that are not on
[52:20] that meeting's agenda. That's
[52:22] it. All other rules stay. It's
[52:25] the same thing. If I was
[52:27] sitting down there and I had a
[52:28] problem with something, and I
[52:30] use my three minutes and I
[52:32] scream and I yell and I attack,
[52:34] and I name caller and I cuss,
[52:36] that is not acceptable
[52:37] behavior. No one's trying to
[52:39] change that. I'm just saying
[52:40] name one time in the five
[52:42] months that I've six months,
[52:43] five months that I've been up
[52:44] here and the many months prior
[52:46] to that, that I watched council
[52:47] meetings, you know, how many
[52:48] people total I saw use there?
[52:51] Three minutes to speak on a
[52:52] regular basis, one outside of a
[52:54] regular basis, maybe five. This
[52:57] is not opening up the door for
[52:59] a hundred people to line up and
[53:01] come in here and be like, I
[53:02] want my three minutes to
[53:04] complain about something.
[53:06] That's not how I feel about our
[53:07] residents. That's not how any
[53:08] of you should feel about our
[53:09] residents. This is simply meant
[53:12] to say, like the poor woman at
[53:14] the last meeting who had to
[53:15] just write a letter because she
[53:17] was told she cannot come speak,
[53:19] or the gentleman who lives on
[53:21] Brian Road, who has things he
[53:24] wants to say and addresses
[53:25] those with Amanda and I
[53:27] regularly, and he wants to be
[53:29] heard by the council as a
[53:30] whole. And if that makes him
[53:31] feel better to come in here and
[53:33] for three minutes say what he
[53:34] doesn't agree with, or our
[53:36] request to change, or just get
[53:38] it off his chest, why can he
[53:40] not do that? It is literally no
[53:42] different than speaking on an
[53:43] agenda item, except for it's
[53:45] not an agenda item.
[53:47] It's just.
[53:51] Brian.
[53:52] So, Debbie, you've been here.
[53:54] You sat through this quietly.
[53:57] Yeah. Um, you had the
[53:59] experience. You were part of
[54:00] the crew that put this in
[54:02] place. So what are your
[54:03] concerns and thoughts on this?
[54:06] So I was one of three people
[54:09] that voted against it. I did
[54:11] not want the I did not want the
[54:13] ordinance to change hindsight.
[54:17] I can remember one person
[54:19] coming in to speak on a non
[54:21] agenda item about a stop sign
[54:23] in Ward three. As a whole, we
[54:25] didn't have too much. We really
[54:27] didn't have people coming in to
[54:29] speak. So I don't know if it's
[54:31] really affected that many
[54:33] people that we have closed it.
[54:34] But I was one that said, no, I
[54:36] don't want to close it. Um, you
[54:39] know, we have so many avenues
[54:41] now to reach out to us. We have
[54:42] a lot of social media. We have
[54:44] emails, we have phone calls. We
[54:45] have all kinds of ways. So, you
[54:48] know, there are a lot of ways
[54:49] for people to get Ahold of us
[54:50] now. So I I'm on the fence. I
[54:53] mean, I would love to open it
[54:54] back up to I've missed the days
[54:56] where people could come up. I
[54:57] don't think it gets abused, but
[55:00] at the same time, I see how
[55:01] smoothly our meetings do go.
[55:03] And I know people have other
[55:05] avenues of reaching out to us,
[55:06] so I'm hearing both sides of
[55:09] everybody's arguments. I'm
[55:10] sitting here listening to all
[55:11] of it.
[55:12] And sometimes people just want
[55:14] to feel heard. And that for a
[55:17] lot of people, means standing
[55:19] up here in front of all of us,
[55:22] being seen and feeling heard.
[55:24] Social media, emails, text
[55:26] messages, phone calls, all of
[55:27] that is fine and great, and
[55:28] that is utilized very regularly
[55:29] for all of us. Sometimes they
[55:32] just want to feel like they are
[55:35] being heard, and that means
[55:36] standing here, speaking their
[55:38] piece and sitting down.
[55:40] And really, isn't that our job,
[55:43] right? I mean, isn't that what
[55:44] we're here for? To be here for
[55:45] the residents and to hear them.
[55:49] Mr. Palmer?
[55:50] Yeah. I mean, no, no
[55:52] disagreement. Um, I, I mean, I
[55:54] would question if someone has
[55:55] an issue in your ward
[55:57] specifically. Do they need to
[55:59] reach out to me? No, but I
[56:02] guess as a way of reaching some
[56:03] type of compromise and
[56:05] potentially moving forward, I
[56:07] guess what I would ask is,
[56:09] could we just take some inputs
[56:11] on ways to enhance? We talked
[56:12] about a lot of them, but ways
[56:13] of enhancing it. And then if it
[56:15] gets approved, do a a review in
[56:20] six months or something to see.
[56:22] Like did the fears we had on it
[56:24] come to pass and how would we
[56:25] adjust further? I mean, I
[56:26] think, if nothing else, a trial
[56:27] period to see, because you're
[56:29] right, none of us work well,
[56:31] none. Most of us weren't here.
[56:34] And so, I mean, if it does get
[56:37] approved with additional
[56:39] changes, can we at least try
[56:41] it? But throw in there that
[56:42] we'll revisit it in 3 or 6
[56:44] months and then we'll be able
[56:45] to adjust again. I don't know.
[56:46] I guess that's all.
[56:52] Again, this is on for first
[56:54] reading. So you know, I would
[56:57] suggest you all get get
[56:59] together and come up. You know,
[57:00] we have to make an amendment.
[57:04] In two weeks to do it. It's up
[57:08] to you guys. Okay. Mr. link,
[57:15] next one's yours, brother.
[57:17] All right. Thank you, mayor.
[57:18] All right, so the multifamily
[57:20] housing study, a little bit of
[57:22] an update on that. I know we,
[57:23] uh, there's been some travel
[57:25] with other council members
[57:26] myself. Um, last meeting, uh,
[57:29] but wanted to revisit it.
[57:30] Despite the moratorium bill not
[57:32] passing, as I think the studies
[57:34] were still a central element of
[57:35] it in the way that they can
[57:37] either better inform us or help
[57:39] us with making legislative
[57:42] changes to our code. Um, so a
[57:44] quick update on that. Like I
[57:45] said, we met with staff last
[57:46] week. Uh, they provided us some
[57:48] input and also assembled, uh,
[57:51] granite was very first rough
[57:53] cut of the scope of effort. If
[57:55] we were to literally do every
[57:57] single study in the 22 page
[57:59] document that I know you've all
[58:01] diligently read over the last
[58:03] month, wonderful reading
[58:05] material. Yeah. So in either
[58:07] case, once again, it was a very
[58:09] rough cut. Uh, nonetheless, we
[58:11] reviewed that for about an
[58:13] hour. And I think what we
[58:15] determined out of that was the
[58:16] best course of action forward
[58:19] was to create a working group.
[58:21] And what council member Boyer
[58:24] and myself had proposed was to
[58:27] create a working group of five
[58:29] members, one from each ward.
[58:31] And the role of this working
[58:33] group would basically be to
[58:35] look at the 22 pages of
[58:37] studies, prioritize which ones
[58:40] we think are going to, you
[58:41] know, be the most impactful for
[58:43] either information we need or
[58:45] missing. Also, balancing that
[58:47] with cost. And then also
[58:49] prioritizing time wise. You
[58:52] know, what we don't want to do
[58:53] is wait, you know, 12 to 18
[58:55] months and then have this
[58:57] massive chunk of information
[58:59] come out at the end. We thought
[59:00] it would be better to kind of
[59:02] release the information and
[59:04] studies as we go. And once
[59:06] again prioritize those based on
[59:08] interest. Um, kind of. Before I
[59:11] get to the summary here, I'm
[59:12] going to, uh, Councilman Boyer,
[59:15] I don't know if there's
[59:15] anything you wanted to add to
[59:16] that that I missed, but, um, I
[59:18] will have one thing to go back
[59:19] to when you're done.
[59:20] I know you've you've done a
[59:21] fabulous job of covering what
[59:22] we did. Um, it was a big price
[59:25] tag that we saw. There's a lot
[59:27] of data that we wanted, and,
[59:29] um. Yeah, I think collectively,
[59:31] we can then figure out what makes sense for us and
[59:33] what what do we need? The
[59:35] city's got a lot of
[59:35] information, but there's also
[59:37] stuff that we have to purchase
[59:38] and get out there. So we need
[59:40] to make sure we make the right
[59:41] smart decisions. So thank you.
[59:44] And so I guess to
[59:47] mechanize that and we can
[59:48] certainly talk about this with
[59:50] the time, but what I like to do
[59:52] either after we talk or have
[59:53] some back and forth, is to
[59:55] conduct a roll call vote, in
[59:57] which either we would approve,
[1:00:01] uh, us to create this working
[1:00:03] group because we basically need
[1:00:06] the council's consensus as we'd
[1:00:07] be directing
[1:00:08] Staff to these studies. We
[1:00:09] cannot do that individually, so
[1:00:11] it needs the consensus of the
[1:00:13] council to do that. Um, and so
[1:00:16] I'd like to open up for
[1:00:17] discussion before we conduct
[1:00:18] that vote.
[1:00:18] And just as a reminder, if this
[1:00:21] does pass for the five, you
[1:00:23] know, passes, the council, the
[1:00:26] five working group, if you're
[1:00:28] not on that working group, you
[1:00:30] cannot show up. All right. So,
[1:00:33] Mr. Koskela of Mr. Link's on
[1:00:35] it. You cannot show up at that
[1:00:37] meeting because that would make
[1:00:38] a quorum. So just let everybody
[1:00:42] know.
[1:00:44] If if I may complicate life a
[1:00:47] little further. because that's
[1:00:49] what I do. If you establish.
[1:00:53] A working group, whatever you
[1:00:55] want to call it, that body is
[1:00:56] subject to the sunshine line.
[1:00:58] It is a public, governmental
[1:00:59] body within the meaning of the
[1:01:01] Sunshine Law. That means those
[1:01:02] meetings must be posted open to
[1:01:05] the public, and follow all the
[1:01:07] sunshine Law requirements for
[1:01:09] notice. Tentative agenda and
[1:01:12] access to to the meetings. If
[1:01:15] then members of the Council
[1:01:18] show up and magnify that body
[1:01:23] into a quorum of the Council,
[1:01:25] there is a risk that you will
[1:01:27] violate the Sunshine Law, as
[1:01:28] the mayor said, because you
[1:01:30] will create a meeting of the
[1:01:31] council. If there is a quorum
[1:01:33] of the Council president
[1:01:34] discussing council business.
[1:01:36] So, first of all, creating this
[1:01:38] as a subgroup does not exempt
[1:01:41] it from the Sunshine Law. The
[1:01:42] Sunshine Law still applies. So
[1:01:45] all of the requirements for
[1:01:46] notice and access and agendas
[1:01:48] will still be applicable.
[1:01:51] But.
[1:01:53] When.
[1:01:55] Did we come up with a cost to
[1:01:57] the city of what the study is
[1:01:58] going to cost?
[1:01:59] So if you did every single one,
[1:02:01] the very rough cut was $1
[1:02:03] million. The vast majority of
[1:02:05] those being traffic studies.
[1:02:07] There were ones as low as a
[1:02:09] thousand, but once again they
[1:02:10] were very rough cut numbers and
[1:02:13] it was a line item list of, I'm
[1:02:15] going to say over 100 items. So.
[1:02:19] what's our cost anticipated
[1:02:21] to be with it being scaled
[1:02:22] down?
[1:02:23] Well, that's for the working
[1:02:24] group to decide in terms of
[1:02:25] what studies we want to pursue.
[1:02:27] But once we start the the bill
[1:02:29] starts accruing, right.
[1:02:31] Well, whatever data we need it
[1:02:33] would do that. If there's a
[1:02:35] certain study that we want
[1:02:37] done. Right. So some studies we
[1:02:39] actually have the data for,
[1:02:40] it's probably very minimal.
[1:02:41] It's just staff time to pull
[1:02:43] it. Others you know, we either
[1:02:45] need to reach out to other
[1:02:47] organizations, which could just
[1:02:49] be a fire department. Right.
[1:02:51] Others we might need a higher
[1:02:52] professional help for, um, they
[1:02:54] staff did a really nice job of
[1:02:55] breaking it down into like four
[1:02:57] categories of we've got it,
[1:02:59] partner organization
[1:03:01] professionals or what the heck
[1:03:03] are you asking for, Doug? We
[1:03:04] can't get that information.
[1:03:08] And the reason I bring it up,
[1:03:09] I'm not opposed to doing the
[1:03:10] study, but I don't think the
[1:03:11] city should incur $1 million
[1:03:13] cost on this study either.
[1:03:14] Well, right. And let me
[1:03:15] completely rewind the million
[1:03:17] dollar number. I do not intend
[1:03:18] on us going down and spending
[1:03:21] $1 million. That is just it. As
[1:03:24] if you're going to do every
[1:03:25] single one as listed on there.
[1:03:29] Yeah, that's the once we saw
[1:03:31] the price tag, we're like, all
[1:03:32] right, we need to rethink and
[1:03:33] retool how we're going to
[1:03:34] attack this. So that's where
[1:03:36] the working group came in. So
[1:03:38] we can then direct what makes
[1:03:39] sense and what's what's pie in
[1:03:42] the sky and not needed.
[1:03:46] Mr. Snowden thank you, mayor. I
[1:03:48] think it's important to note
[1:03:49] that any funds expended would
[1:03:53] not be budgeted. And so it
[1:03:55] would have to come back to the
[1:03:56] council for approval to
[1:03:58] actually expend the funds.
[1:03:59] So I if I can put words in your
[1:04:01] mouth, Mr. Link, the working
[1:04:02] group would be deciding which
[1:04:05] studies need to be done. We
[1:04:07] would then compile how much we
[1:04:09] think that might cost, whether
[1:04:11] there needs to be an RFP
[1:04:12] process that would then come
[1:04:13] back to the council because the
[1:04:14] funds are budgeted.
[1:04:16] Thank you, Mr. Snow. And that
[1:04:17] would come back as a just a
[1:04:18] line item resolution to
[1:04:20] authorize that spending. If
[1:04:23] it's not in the budget,
[1:04:24] correct. If the budget next
[1:04:26] year accounted for some of
[1:04:28] these studies, we would not
[1:04:29] need to do that.
[1:04:31] If the funds are budgeted, we
[1:04:33] would not need to come back to
[1:04:34] the council to spend the funds.
[1:04:35] It's unadjusted. We would.
[1:04:37] All right. Thank you.
[1:04:39] Mr. Palmer.
[1:04:41] Um, as I mentioned in my nine
[1:04:44] page, thank you for reading
[1:04:46] letter, Mr. Mayor. Uh, I guess
[1:04:48] one of the things I want to
[1:04:49] make sure whether or not I'm on
[1:04:50] the group or not, one of the
[1:04:52] things I want to make sure is
[1:04:53] that before we commence any
[1:04:55] studies, we talk through the
[1:04:56] potential outcomes of those
[1:04:57] studies and what actions we
[1:04:59] would take, because I would
[1:05:00] hate to get to an outcome that
[1:05:01] we can't do anything about. And
[1:05:03] then the other one is, I sure
[1:05:05] hope that if we approve these
[1:05:07] studies, that those actions we
[1:05:09] take, we say would be
[1:05:10] appropriate, that we actually
[1:05:11] do them. And I'm going to throw
[1:05:12] an extreme hypothetical. If a
[1:05:14] study says we have insufficient
[1:05:16] housing, and the answer is to
[1:05:18] go build more apartments then
[1:05:20] and I'm throwing that out
[1:05:21] intentionally, right. Not to be
[1:05:23] provocative, but the point is, I feel like if we if we take
[1:05:27] these on, we should be somewhat
[1:05:29] committed to the outcomes and
[1:05:31] the actions that we take that
[1:05:32] were commensurate with those
[1:05:33] studies. If we have a
[1:05:34] predetermined answer that there
[1:05:36] are some things we are not
[1:05:36] going to do, then we should not
[1:05:38] start the studies because we if
[1:05:40] we're not going to live with
[1:05:41] the answers, then we shouldn't
[1:05:43] ask the questions, if that
[1:05:44] makes sense.
[1:05:45] Yeah. Absolutely. Understood.
[1:05:46] And you know, the one thing
[1:05:47] though I will say to that is if
[1:05:49] we just do a housing supply
[1:05:51] study, it's probably not the
[1:05:52] whole picture. It's one piece
[1:05:53] of it, right. There may be a,
[1:05:55] you know, demand for housing.
[1:05:57] The question is, can
[1:05:58] infrastructure, roads and
[1:06:00] things support that? And if
[1:06:01] not, what are the projects we
[1:06:03] can do to put those in place
[1:06:04] before we would start those
[1:06:05] developments? So, um, you know,
[1:06:07] just because we have one
[1:06:08] answer, we may not have an
[1:06:10] entire, let's say, because we
[1:06:12] have some information that
[1:06:14] answers one question. It's not
[1:06:15] enough to inform an action.
[1:06:17] And that and that's part of why
[1:06:18] that's part of my why I'm
[1:06:20] requesting it is in that same
[1:06:21] case, if you have like this
[1:06:22] network of studies that they
[1:06:25] are codependent upon each other
[1:06:26] and any individual that you
[1:06:27] know doesn't wouldn't drive
[1:06:29] action, then we want to make
[1:06:30] sure that any that are
[1:06:31] codependent would occur,
[1:06:32] because if there are three that
[1:06:33] are codependent, we only do
[1:06:34] two. Then we did nothing in the
[1:06:36] end. So that would be something
[1:06:37] else we would want to watch
[1:06:38] for. I think it's a good point.
[1:06:39] Yep. Completely agree.
[1:06:42] Anybody else?
[1:06:45] All right.
[1:06:46] Go ahead. I was just going to
[1:06:47] say I read through it three
[1:06:48] times, mostly because I fell
[1:06:49] asleep the first two times. Um,
[1:06:52] but like I have significant
[1:06:54] questions on the ability to get
[1:06:55] the data and to answer some of
[1:06:56] the questions and even the
[1:06:58] modeling. I just like the
[1:07:00] engineer side of me, kicked in
[1:07:01] and just tilted real fast. Um,
[1:07:05] so I just, I would whether or
[1:07:07] not I'm on that special group,
[1:07:08] I would really love to be able
[1:07:10] to know, uh, kind of the plan
[1:07:13] on each of the studies, we
[1:07:14] agree to go forward with, to
[1:07:16] just make sure that they're
[1:07:16] possible, et.
[1:07:18] Absolutely. And I'll let you
[1:07:20] and Councilwoman Cook rock
[1:07:21] scissors paper over that
[1:07:23] however you'd like to decide
[1:07:24] it. Um, but nonetheless, I
[1:07:26] think you'd be great on it.
[1:07:29] Okay. Anybody else? So, Mr.
[1:07:33] Link, you are wanting a roll
[1:07:36] call for forming the elected
[1:07:42] officials? Direct. Have a
[1:07:50] working group to work with
[1:07:53] staff on the study..
[1:07:56] At a high level, yes.
[1:08:01] Mr. Palmer.
[1:08:03] Relative to what? My lawyer
[1:08:04] friend to my left mentioned,
[1:08:06] I'm not sure I understand
[1:08:07] everything that that means.
[1:08:08] Does that mean we have to have,
[1:08:09] like, a a clerk or something
[1:08:11] would have to be available? It
[1:08:12] would have to be televised,
[1:08:14] have to be recorded. But
[1:08:15] whatever those are, I just want
[1:08:16] to make sure that I guess I'm
[1:08:18] asking Mike that staff can
[1:08:20] support if this ends up
[1:08:22] happening, because it is
[1:08:23] something different. An
[1:08:24] additional for for staff to be
[1:08:26] doing, even in the event of the the smaller group..
[1:08:30] In a word, yes, staff can
[1:08:33] support this.
[1:08:35] If that answer. Mike.
[1:08:36] Amanda., I guess that's the
[1:08:38] kind of follow up. Um, if this
[1:08:41] is sunshine and we have to do
[1:08:42] that already, then does it have
[1:08:44] to be limited to that one per
[1:08:46] ward? I mean, that was kind of
[1:08:48] why you were doing that, right?
[1:08:51] So originally w n.
[1:08:54] O'Keefe.
[1:08:55] They both wanted to be on it.
[1:08:58] Yes.
[1:08:58] Sir. She's asking. Go ahead and
[1:09:02] ask you a question again.
[1:09:03] Amanda., in this new revelation
[1:09:06] that, uh, this is subject to
[1:09:09] sunshine and we have to follow
[1:09:11] those same rules. Does that
[1:09:13] mean now we can extend the
[1:09:15] working group outside of five
[1:09:17] members, since that seem to be
[1:09:20] the reason for doing so to
[1:09:23] begin with?
[1:09:25] If it doesn't matter, okay.
[1:09:29] It doesn't matter what?
[1:09:33] Um.
[1:09:35] Whether it's a committee, a
[1:09:37] working group, whatever you
[1:09:39] want to call it, if it's a
[1:09:40] subunit of the city council
[1:09:42] created for a given purpose,
[1:09:44] it's a body in and of itself,
[1:09:46] subject to the Sunshine Law. If
[1:09:48] you want to make it ten people,
[1:09:49] you want to make it seven
[1:09:50] people you want to make two
[1:09:52] people. It's a body subject to
[1:09:54] the sunshine line I so it
[1:09:55] doesn't matter how many are put
[1:09:57] on it.
[1:09:57] I think I'm going to rephrase
[1:09:59] what Councilwoman Taylor is
[1:10:00] asking, or at least the
[1:10:01] question that got prompted to
[1:10:02] me. If there's seven, if we
[1:10:05] decide, hey, go to seven, does
[1:10:06] that change anything that this
[1:10:08] group would do, whether it's 5
[1:10:12] or 7?
[1:10:14] Or.
[1:10:14] Four.
[1:10:15] Change anything legally? Is
[1:10:17] that your question to me?
[1:10:19] Does it does it matter? Like
[1:10:22] there for some reason, five was
[1:10:23] picked because you kind of, um,
[1:10:27] you lessen a quorum and if all
[1:10:29] the same rules apply, etc. and
[1:10:31] I'm, I don't want him to
[1:10:33] believe we're trying to skirt
[1:10:34] or hide anything, right? Like
[1:10:35] nobody's afraid of sunshine
[1:10:36] laws. But but if it goes to
[1:10:38] like 7 or 8 that want to
[1:10:40] participate, like, would it, function differently
[1:10:44] if there were 5 or 8? That's
[1:10:45] what I, I don't I don't know
[1:10:46] and I don't understand. Or are
[1:10:51] you saying above five is the
[1:10:52] same as the whole and the whole
[1:10:56] council? And it would need to
[1:10:57] be this forum anyways.
[1:11:05] Well, and and to me, I really
[1:11:09] don't want ten people on this
[1:11:11] committee. I don't want seven.
[1:11:12] To me I think one person per
[1:11:15] ward, because you're going to
[1:11:18] get you get eight people on
[1:11:21] this, this working group. And
[1:11:23] what you're going to get is
[1:11:26] nothing done. I that's just my
[1:11:28] feeling. I don't think you will
[1:11:30] get anything done, but you have
[1:11:34] eight people on there. To me
[1:11:36] you have one person per ward
[1:11:38] that's representing that ward.
[1:11:41] So if it's Miss Cook on it, she
[1:11:43] can relay it to Mr. Palmer.
[1:11:46] Same way with wards one, two,
[1:11:48] three and four and five. I
[1:11:52] that's my my thought. And what
[1:11:55] Mr. O'Keefe said is I'm the one
[1:11:57] who's going to have to appoint
[1:11:59] because it's in our charter
[1:12:01] that I appoint to boards and
[1:12:02] commissions and committees, and all that stuff.
[1:12:07] So. So go ahead.
[1:12:11] So I agree with you. I, I like
[1:12:14] more of the agility you get
[1:12:15] with five. The accountability
[1:12:18] is more concentrated. Uh, you
[1:12:20] know, I've tried to go to
[1:12:22] dinner with eight people. It's
[1:12:23] impossible to get everybody to
[1:12:24] come together. So I completely
[1:12:26] agree. And, you know, if we're
[1:12:28] in that five range, the one per
[1:12:29] ward, I think is the cleanest
[1:12:31] way. So I think, uh, Councilman
[1:12:33] Boyer, I know you're within
[1:12:35] those discussions. Um, as long
[1:12:37] as you have a consensus on
[1:12:39] five, I would like to suggest
[1:12:41] keeping it there.
[1:12:42] That's. I felt the same. And
[1:12:44] more people in the less we're
[1:12:45] going to get done.
[1:12:48] Okay. Mr. Wilcox.
[1:12:50] So this is related. I sent an
[1:12:52] email, um, last week, earlier
[1:12:54] this week about planning and
[1:12:55] zoning, and especially for the
[1:12:56] new council members, how we
[1:12:58] would like to learn a little
[1:12:59] more about that. I've talked to
[1:13:00] a few of you guys, and this
[1:13:02] ties into the apartment thing
[1:13:03] in my the kind of where it
[1:13:05] started. I want to know, like
[1:13:07] how properties are zoned
[1:13:09] originally and then how they
[1:13:11] potentially can be changed to a
[1:13:13] different zoning code. I think
[1:13:15] this is a good workshop item.
[1:13:16] Maybe prior to this. Mr. Link,
[1:13:19] if you don't mind, because I
[1:13:20] think it ties in very closely
[1:13:22] to what you're trying to
[1:13:23] accomplish.
[1:13:25] Sir. I mean, I don't mind if we
[1:13:27] throw it on the workshop, but I
[1:13:29] still think we'll move to get
[1:13:32] this committee organized. I
[1:13:33] imagine it'll take a couple of
[1:13:34] weeks, but.
[1:13:37] , Amanda.
[1:13:38] I was just going to say
[1:13:40] something just hit me for his
[1:13:41] plan and zoning question. Isn't
[1:13:43] there a workshop or a class
[1:13:47] that you send? I don't know,
[1:13:49] Mr. Woods. Uh, David, for
[1:13:51] planning and zoning. There's
[1:13:52] even a class that people that
[1:13:54] are new on the planning and
[1:13:56] zoning can take that possibly.
[1:13:58] I mean, I would be interested
[1:13:59] in doing it, too, you know.
[1:14:01] Yeah, that just got noted that,
[1:14:03] um, sole has a has a
[1:14:04] certificate program for that. I
[1:14:06] did send that out to the
[1:14:07] commission. Uh, maybe just
[1:14:09] Tracy did last week or so. I
[1:14:11] think we had some, some
[1:14:12] interest. And I know, uh, Mr.
[1:14:16] Wexler, did you go a couple
[1:14:17] years ago?
[1:14:18] I did, yeah, yeah, my first
[1:14:19] year on or second year on
[1:14:21] planning and zoning, I went,
[1:14:22] yeah, it's super helpful if if
[1:14:25] council is able to go or some
[1:14:27] council members are able to go.
[1:14:28] Yeah. I've highly suggested
[1:14:29] it's it's very good. Yeah I.
[1:14:35] All right. Let's get get back
[1:14:36] on top before we get into other
[1:14:39] things. So let's get the first
[1:14:42] portion out of this. Done. So I
[1:14:45] have a motion by Mr. Link to
[1:14:50] correct me if I'm wrong here to
[1:14:53] get a working group to work
[1:14:55] with staff on the apartment
[1:15:00] study that Mr. Link provided.
[1:15:02] Is that good enough? You got
[1:15:07] that, Katie. Okay. Do I have a
[1:15:10] second?
[1:15:11] second.
[1:15:12] Mr. Bowyer questions? Mr.
[1:15:19] Koskela.
[1:15:20] Thank you. Mayor. Uh, I just
[1:15:22] want to be clear and reiterate, reiterate that
[1:15:26] before any funds are spent,
[1:15:30] labor time included, it has to
[1:15:33] come back to council for full
[1:15:36] approval. Approval in the
[1:15:37] normal.
[1:15:38] Yeah. That that working group
[1:15:40] cannot say we're going to spend
[1:15:42] X amount of dollars. It's got
[1:15:44] to be approved by the whole
[1:15:45] council.
[1:15:45] Understood. Thank you.
[1:15:48] Michael.
[1:15:49] To be clear, Mr. Costello,
[1:15:51] you're not referring to staff
[1:15:52] time as being part of the
[1:15:54] committee. And assisting.
[1:15:57] You're referring to any
[1:15:59] expenditure of funds beyond
[1:16:01] that.
[1:16:07] Um. How much of its staff time
[1:16:12] are we expecting for setting up
[1:16:13] this committee and starting
[1:16:15] this before any real work is
[1:16:18] started? Uh, before we would
[1:16:20] get to a a vote to approve a
[1:16:23] budget.
[1:16:24] I don't to me, I don't think
[1:16:26] you can answer that question
[1:16:27] until that working group gets
[1:16:30] in and goes over that. What
[1:16:32] staff is already provided and
[1:16:36] go over all that. So to me, you
[1:16:41] know, whenever they start this
[1:16:43] working group, you know, they
[1:16:45] can come back during the
[1:16:46] workshop or one of their ward
[1:16:48] report and say, hey, this is
[1:16:49] what we've found and keep the
[1:16:53] rest of the council updated.
[1:16:57] Okay?
[1:16:57] Corey.
[1:16:59] So when we when we went over
[1:17:03] this moratorium and it did not
[1:17:06] pass by half the council, that
[1:17:10] half of the council that did
[1:17:12] not pass this moratorium made
[1:17:13] it very clear that we can do
[1:17:15] these studies without the
[1:17:17] moratorium. So now we're trying
[1:17:20] to do the studies, and I just
[1:17:22] want to make sure that we yes,
[1:17:25] any expenditures need to come
[1:17:26] to the council for approval.
[1:17:28] But I don't think that that
[1:17:29] needs to include a small amount
[1:17:32] of staff time, because that is
[1:17:34] what was asked of us when this
[1:17:36] moratorium failed was we do the
[1:17:38] study without it. We're trying
[1:17:39] to let's not put more
[1:17:41] limitations on it. This is a
[1:17:42] little bit of a compromise
[1:17:43] here. Okay.
[1:17:44] Anybody else? Roll call.
[1:17:49] Councilmember Palmer.
[1:17:51] Yes.
[1:17:53] Councilmember Taylor.
[1:17:54] Yes.
[1:17:55] Council member. Cook.
[1:17:57] Yes.
[1:17:58] Council member. Yates.
[1:18:00] Yes.
[1:18:00] Council member. Spencer. Yes.
[1:18:03] Council member. Koskela.
[1:18:06] Yes.
[1:18:07] Council member. Link.
[1:18:08] Yes.
[1:18:09] Council member. Wilcox.
[1:18:10] Yes.
[1:18:11] Council member. Boyer.
[1:18:13] Yes.
[1:18:14] Council member. Wexler.
[1:18:15] Yes.
[1:18:16] All right. There's ten. So what
[1:18:22] I need from Mr. Link and Mr.
[1:18:25] Boyer by next. On the agenda.
[1:18:31] Come out for the next meeting..
[1:18:34] A week from.
[1:18:35] One day a week from Monday. I
[1:18:38] would like to have it probably
[1:18:40] by next week. Of what, five?
[1:18:46] Councilman is going to sit on
[1:18:47] this working group. So we put
[1:18:49] on the agenda to appoint the
[1:18:56] five whatever five it is to
[1:18:58] this working group.
[1:19:00] You got it.
[1:19:02] For your All's approval. Okay.
[1:19:08] Anything else? Any other items?
[1:19:20] Seeing none, I got a motion to
[1:19:23] go to closed session 610 0211.
[1:19:26] Legal action. Cause of action
[1:19:27] litigation, but involving
[1:19:29] public, governmental body and
[1:19:31] any confidential, privileged
[1:19:32] communication between the
[1:19:33] public, governmental body or
[1:19:35] its representative, its
[1:19:36] attorneys. 610 0212 lease,
[1:19:39] purchasing or sale of real
[1:19:41] estate and. 610 02112 sealed
[1:19:45] bids. Related documents. Until
[1:19:47] the bids are open and sealed,
[1:19:48] proposals and related documents
[1:19:49] or any documents related to the
[1:19:51] negotiated contract until the
[1:19:53] contract is executed or all
[1:19:55] proposals are rejected.
[1:19:58] So move to.
[1:20:00] Costco.
[1:20:02] Councilman Wexler, seconded by
[1:20:04] Councilman Koskela roll call.
[1:20:06] Katie.
[1:20:06] Council member Spencer.
[1:20:08] Yes.
[1:20:09] Council member. Wilcox.
[1:20:11] Yes.
[1:20:12] Council member. Cook.
[1:20:13] Yes.
[1:20:14] Council member. Koskela.
[1:20:15] Yes.
[1:20:16] Council member. Taylor. Yes.
[1:20:18] Council member. Boyer.
[1:20:20] Yes.
[1:20:21] Council member. Palmer.
[1:20:22] Yes.
[1:20:23] Council member. Wexler.
[1:20:24] Yes.
[1:20:26] Council Member Link.
[1:20:27] Yes.
[1:20:27] Council member. Yates.
[1:20:29] Yes. All right. We'll be in the
[1:20:30] community room at 655.
[1:21:25] Call to order the September
[1:21:27] 10th, 2026 O'Fallon City
[1:21:29] Council meeting to order roll
[1:21:31] call. Bess. Mayor. Hennessey
[1:21:32] present.
[1:21:33] Council member. Wexler present.
[1:21:34] Council member. Wilcox.
[1:21:36] Present. Council member. Boyer.
[1:21:37] Present.
[1:21:38] Council member. Yates.
[1:21:39] Present.
[1:21:40] Council member. Casella.
[1:21:41] Present. Council member. Lynch.
[1:21:43] Present. Council member.
[1:21:44] Spencer present. Council
[1:21:45] member. Taylor. Present.
[1:21:47] Council member. Cooke. Present.
[1:21:48] Council member.
[1:21:49] Palmer present. Please stand if
[1:21:53] able. Invitation by police
[1:21:55] chaplain Brandon Easterling,
[1:21:57] followed by Pledge of
[1:21:58] Allegiance led by Council
[1:21:59] member Spencer.
[1:22:01] Would you pray with me? Our
[1:22:03] Heavenly Father, we thank you
[1:22:04] for this night. We thank you
[1:22:05] for the chance to gather and do
[1:22:07] various matters related to our
[1:22:09] city, and just thankful for the
[1:22:10] leadership we have represented
[1:22:12] in this room. We just ask that
[1:22:13] you bless them, keep them, and
[1:22:15] give us wisdom and discernment
[1:22:16] tonight as we make decisions.
[1:22:18] In Jesus name we pray. Amen.
[1:22:24] Pledge allegiance to the flag
[1:22:26] of the United States of America
[1:22:28] and to the Republic for which
[1:22:30] it stands. One nation under
[1:22:32] God, indivisible, with liberty
[1:22:35] and justice for all. All right,
[1:22:44] folks, you have an agenda in
[1:22:45] front of what's a pleasure?
[1:22:47] Motion to approve. Costello
[1:22:49] second, Wexler.
[1:22:50] Moves by Councilman Costello.
[1:22:51] Second by Councilman Wexler.
[1:22:53] Questions or comments? All in
[1:22:55] favor? All right. Any opposed?
[1:22:57] Motion passes. Uh, just a
[1:22:59] couple things on the presiding
[1:23:01] officers report. Uh, folks, I
[1:23:03] believe we have a video back
[1:23:05] there. So if you want to go
[1:23:06] ahead and play it.
[1:23:26] For my generation, those of us
[1:23:28] in high school and college, we
[1:23:30] don't know. A world before nine
[1:23:31] over 11, but we can definitely
[1:23:33] understand the impact it has
[1:23:34] had on our nation.
[1:23:35] Can't overlook that. The men
[1:23:37] and women who ran towards that
[1:23:39] danger, and we know someday we
[1:23:40] might be put in that position
[1:23:41] where we have to do it, and to
[1:23:43] actually watch them on live TV.
[1:23:44] Doing it just it gives you a
[1:23:46] sense of, you know, brotherhood
[1:23:48] and sisterhood and you want to
[1:23:50] be there with them, but you
[1:23:51] can't. It's important that we.
[1:23:53] Do what, what O'Fallon does.
[1:23:55] And that is on those days we
[1:23:58] have ceremonies. We invite
[1:23:59] people to come together and
[1:24:02] fellowship to to remember and
[1:24:04] to hopefully never forget.
[1:24:06] Put us, you know, hand in hand
[1:24:07] with our neighbor, you know, arm around shoulders
[1:24:11] and, um, so from that
[1:24:14] perspective, it's just hugely
[1:24:15] important, especially at this
[1:24:17] time.
[1:24:17] It's great that they can still
[1:24:19] come together and remember
[1:24:23] those sacrifices. Um, both from
[1:24:26] that first responder
[1:24:27] standpoint, but also the
[1:24:30] military.
[1:24:30] It puts a tangibility to the
[1:24:33] event that you can't get off of
[1:24:36] the page of a textbook.
[1:24:37] You can't get it in a textbook.
[1:24:38] To me, I.
[1:24:39] What moves me the most about
[1:24:41] the nine over 11 ceremony is
[1:24:43] listening to those, the Chiefs
[1:24:45] and everybody else. Recap of
[1:24:47] what happened locally and
[1:24:49] everything else.
[1:24:50] And that's really what hits
[1:24:52] home for people.
[1:24:53] Come out to the Justice Center
[1:24:55] on nine over 11. You'll get to
[1:24:56] hear all the great stories.
[1:24:59] You know, I think the young
[1:25:01] people that come here are moved
[1:25:03] by it, and hopefully they learn
[1:25:05] something from it. Anytime that
[1:25:07] you can make it, make a
[1:25:09] connection with a kid, that's
[1:25:11] when they learned. And so we're always in the business of
[1:25:15] education, trying to help kids
[1:25:17] find connections to what we're
[1:25:19] trying to teach them. And when
[1:25:21] we when kids come out to a
[1:25:23] remembrance ceremony, that's
[1:25:25] when they make the connection.
[1:25:26] Listen to what somebody is
[1:25:29] telling you about what they
[1:25:31] felt and what they experienced.
[1:25:33] And then for a minute, put
[1:25:35] yourself in their shoes and you
[1:25:38] will understand why we need to
[1:25:43] protect this country.
[1:25:45] We can't heal, but we can't
[1:25:48] ever forget. I think it's so
[1:25:51] important we keep saying that.
[1:25:53] Over and over.
[1:25:55] Join us for Oberlin's annual
[1:25:57] Patriot Day ceremony and 9/11
[1:25:59] Remembrance Walk on Friday,
[1:26:02] September 11th at the O'Fallon
[1:26:03] Justice Center. The Patriot Day
[1:26:05] ceremony will take place from
[1:26:08] 830 to 9 a.m., honoring the
[1:26:10] lives lost and the heroes who
[1:26:12] responded with courage.
[1:26:13] Immediately following the
[1:26:14] ceremony, a remembrance Walk
[1:26:16] will begin at 9 a.m., offering
[1:26:18] a reflective journey that pays
[1:26:19] tribute to the sacrifices made,
[1:26:21] honors those who continue to
[1:26:23] inspire us, and ends in a
[1:26:25] moving display of patriotism.
[1:26:37] Great jobs by our
[1:26:38] communications department. And
[1:26:40] just as a reminder, didn't
[1:26:42] catch it. Uh, the nine over 11
[1:26:45] ceremony will be tomorrow
[1:26:46] morning at 830 at the Justice
[1:26:49] Center. Uh, followed by the one
[1:26:51] mile walk. And we will hear
[1:26:54] from a police officer. We'll
[1:26:57] hear from a retired fire chief,
[1:27:00] and we will hear from, uh, a a
[1:27:04] senior in high school. How it
[1:27:08] affects their generation. So,
[1:27:12] uh, there's a few other things
[1:27:14] that be there. So if you can
[1:27:17] make it to the Justice Center
[1:27:19] tomorrow morning at 830, uh,
[1:27:21] we'd love to have you out there.
[1:27:24] So that brings us to citizens
[1:27:26] comments, Mr. Danoff.
[1:27:39] Thank you very much. Members of
[1:27:41] council, first of all, is a
[1:27:43] reconsideration of Bill 7879.
[1:27:46] Elected officials need to have
[1:27:48] a backbone. A backbone is
[1:27:50] needed when you're elected to
[1:27:51] public office. Was this
[1:27:53] reconsideration forced or
[1:27:55] mandated by Mayor Hennessy for
[1:27:57] his developer buddy? There need
[1:27:59] to be protections and
[1:28:00] guarantees for all senior
[1:28:02] citizens. Assurances to the
[1:28:04] community about maintenance,
[1:28:06] elevators, air conditioning,
[1:28:08] barriers not sold for
[1:28:10] apartments or HUD. Section
[1:28:11] eight. In 15 years, when we
[1:28:13] don't need senior housing
[1:28:14] because of the population
[1:28:16] decrease, we need to get this
[1:28:18] project right for the
[1:28:19] neighborhood. I ask that you
[1:28:21] send this bill back to the
[1:28:22] Planning and Zoning Commission.
[1:28:24] I will be opposing all
[1:28:25] applications for any state tax
[1:28:26] credits, any funding from the
[1:28:28] state, or reduce interest
[1:28:30] rates. Bill 7989 resident
[1:28:33] testimony on Public Citizen
[1:28:35] comments. Let's get her done
[1:28:37] and fully restored. Speaking on
[1:28:38] any issue or topic and a five
[1:28:40] minute time limit. If not,
[1:28:42] there will be a city initiative.
[1:28:44] Petition the place a question
[1:28:46] and rules under the city
[1:28:47] election ballot. Let's be
[1:28:49] honest and truthful to the
[1:28:50] public and tell the public why
[1:28:52] you change public comments. The
[1:28:55] former council did an attempt
[1:28:57] in a spiteful, mean and hateful
[1:28:59] attempt to silence and shut me
[1:29:01] up personally. It was over a
[1:29:03] terrible police chief that I
[1:29:05] sent packing back to Texas. It
[1:29:07] has not worked and will never
[1:29:09] work. The city council can
[1:29:11] never act like a private
[1:29:12] country club folk. And that's
[1:29:14] the exact comment. Mr.
[1:29:15] Hennessey, I speak the truth
[1:29:17] with real facts and
[1:29:18] information. Your current rules
[1:29:20] and city ordinance is
[1:29:22] unconstitutional and invalid. I
[1:29:24] just been too lazy to take it
[1:29:25] to a circuit court judge and
[1:29:27] get it invalidated. Bill 7890
[1:29:30] reading through two readings is
[1:29:32] in direct violation of our home
[1:29:33] rule City charter. By mandating
[1:29:35] time for citizens response,
[1:29:37] comment and testimony. This is
[1:29:39] for a developer from Cape
[1:29:40] Girardeau who is worth over
[1:29:43] $150 million in assets, and at
[1:29:47] stake is over $100 million in
[1:29:48] tax credits and corporate
[1:29:50] welfare giveaways. Resolution A
[1:29:52] is $13,900 times four for
[1:29:56] $55,000. Is it an invasion of
[1:29:59] citizen privacy? Return on
[1:30:00] investment, or really getting
[1:30:02] our use out of this software?
[1:30:04] Resolution B Daines Park
[1:30:06] Playground Equipment
[1:30:07] Replacement $200,000 I thought
[1:30:10] we just recently replaced this
[1:30:12] equipment. Resolution C at
[1:30:14] Green Drive. Reconstruction and
[1:30:15] sidewalks. What are total waste
[1:30:17] of $1.5 million? Federal,
[1:30:21] county, city. And it's a pork
[1:30:24] barrel project. In my opinion.
[1:30:25] Resolution D you.
[1:30:27] Have 50s.
[1:30:28] Sanitary district problems with
[1:30:29] the bid and contract resolution
[1:30:31] E honor guard uniform
[1:30:32] replacement 25,000. How could
[1:30:34] they be worn out in eight
[1:30:36] years? Resolution F $23,000 in
[1:30:39] chiller repairs on a five year
[1:30:41] old $30 million.
[1:30:42] Police building off.
[1:30:43] We need off contractors.
[1:30:44] Counting off. Your time is up,
[1:30:46] sir.
[1:30:46] Thank you.
[1:30:49] Our next speaker is Patty
[1:30:53] Riney. I hope I said that
[1:30:56] correct.
[1:31:02] Good evening. Thank you. My
[1:31:05] name is Patty Riney and I am a
[1:31:08] regional manager for Pioneer
[1:31:10] Property Management, Inc. I've
[1:31:12] been working with Phoenix Real
[1:31:13] Estate for the past 15 years,
[1:31:16] managing the daily operations
[1:31:19] of the tech properties that
[1:31:20] they've developed. I have a
[1:31:22] firsthand experience with the
[1:31:25] benefits of these large tech
[1:31:27] properties, and I am here to
[1:31:30] advocate for the village at
[1:31:32] Hillman Farm and ask you to
[1:31:35] reconsider your decision on
[1:31:37] this property. Um, I, in my
[1:31:41] daily work, I see firsthand the
[1:31:44] strong need for affordable
[1:31:46] housing and, better options for
[1:31:50] seniors. And in my line of
[1:31:52] work, I. I see and hear from
[1:31:56] our clients on a daily basis on
[1:32:00] what their struggles are, and
[1:32:02] affordable housing is at the
[1:32:04] top of their list. Um, I
[1:32:05] appreciate the time that you
[1:32:07] gave me, and I hope that you
[1:32:09] reconsider.
[1:32:10] Thank you ma'am. Our next
[1:32:13] speaker is Dan Bernard Barnard.
[1:32:29] Thank you. I'm Dan Barnard with
[1:32:31] Phoenix Real Estate Services.
[1:32:33] Do I need to get my address,
[1:32:34] please? Uh, 2800 West Clay
[1:32:37] Valley Drive, Saint Charles,
[1:32:38] Missouri, 63301. Okay. Thank
[1:32:42] you very much for the
[1:32:43] reconsideration. It's really
[1:32:45] important. Uh, I want you to
[1:32:47] know that Phoenix Real Estate
[1:32:49] Services, as a developer for
[1:32:50] tax credit properties, has been
[1:32:52] in business for over 15 years.
[1:32:54] We've been developing these
[1:32:56] kind of apartments for low
[1:32:58] income seniors for that time.
[1:33:01] Uh, if this is approved,
[1:33:03] village at Hillman Farms would
[1:33:06] be our 10th development
[1:33:08] altogether. And it would be,
[1:33:11] uh, somewhere in the
[1:33:12] neighborhood of 600 apartment
[1:33:14] units, almost all of them for
[1:33:16] low income seniors. Um, the
[1:33:20] social media comments that have
[1:33:22] come from the denial a couple
[1:33:24] of weeks ago have been, uh,
[1:33:26] appears to me tremendously in
[1:33:28] favor of the affordable
[1:33:30] housing. The few 10 to 15%
[1:33:35] negative comments, uh, seem to
[1:33:36] come from folks that don't know
[1:33:38] very much about the program and
[1:33:41] the obligations of the
[1:33:43] developer. Um, and, uh, there's
[1:33:48] just a lot of interest in this,
[1:33:49] and there's a tremendous need,
[1:33:52] um, for this kind of
[1:33:54] development. Our waiting list
[1:33:57] at Queen's Brook and Saint
[1:33:58] Peter's, we have over 200
[1:34:01] people on our waiting list. And
[1:34:03] the market study that was done
[1:34:05] for, uh, village at Hillman
[1:34:07] Farms shows that all of the
[1:34:10] O'Fallon, um, developments that
[1:34:12] have previously been put
[1:34:14] together, uh, have waiting
[1:34:16] lists of 2 to 3 years to get
[1:34:19] into those, those kind of
[1:34:22] apartments. We looked
[1:34:27] throughout say we like to build
[1:34:29] in Saint Charles County. It's a
[1:34:31] great place, good location.
[1:34:33] We've got three developments in
[1:34:35] Saint Charles. We have two in
[1:34:37] Wentzville. We have two in
[1:34:39] Saint Peter's. This would be
[1:34:41] our first in O'Fallon, but
[1:34:42] Saint Charles County altogether
[1:34:44] and the municipalities in it
[1:34:46] are where we'd like to be. Uh,
[1:34:48] it's a low crime rate. Uh, we
[1:34:50] work with solid core of
[1:34:53] subcontractors and suppliers,
[1:34:55] many of whom are. Most of them
[1:34:57] are in Saint Charles County.
[1:34:58] Some are in O'Fallon. We we
[1:35:01] looked all over the place. This
[1:35:03] was our best site that we could
[1:35:04] find. Uh, there are a couple of
[1:35:07] our three properties in
[1:35:09] O'Fallon. We looked at those.
[1:35:11] They're not on the market. They
[1:35:13] don't meet the needs of our
[1:35:14] people, our residents and so
[1:35:16] forth. And, um, that's why we
[1:35:19] wound up, uh, going to the
[1:35:22] Mexico Road location.
[1:35:23] You have 15 seconds.
[1:35:25] Thank you. The site's been
[1:35:26] vacant for 20 years. Not likely
[1:35:29] to be used for any sort of
[1:35:31] retail. And the traffic impact
[1:35:34] is for our projects is really
[1:35:37] low.
[1:35:38] Okay.
[1:35:38] Thank you for your time.
[1:35:40] Sir.
[1:35:41] All right. Brings this to World
[1:35:43] Reports, Ward one.
[1:35:47] I just.
[1:35:48] Wanted to remind everybody
[1:35:49] again about the nine over 11
[1:35:50] ceremony and the walk tomorrow.
[1:35:52] And then our Rail district
[1:35:53] festival is this Saturday. So
[1:35:55] lots of stuff going on in
[1:35:56] O'Fallon.
[1:35:57] Thank you.
[1:35:57] Real district from 12 to 6 at
[1:36:00] Civic Park. Mr. Wechsler.
[1:36:03] Thank you. Mayor Scott. You
[1:36:05] stole what I was going to talk
[1:36:06] about. So I will talk about the
[1:36:08] other, uh, big thing happening
[1:36:11] in Ward one this weekend, which
[1:36:12] is tacos and tequila on
[1:36:14] Saturday. Um, it's probably
[1:36:16] going to be loud. We're
[1:36:18] probably gonna hear about it
[1:36:19] if, uh, if you have questions,
[1:36:21] call Scott or call the police
[1:36:23] department. There you go.
[1:36:25] That's what I got.
[1:36:26] Okay, we're two.
[1:36:30] Thank you. Mayor. Um, there's
[1:36:33] also a blood drive coming up
[1:36:35] this week at the Justice
[1:36:36] Center, which is, um, later
[1:36:39] this week. And then Saturday is
[1:36:41] the. And Debbie, I'm going to
[1:36:42] beat you to it. The pool.
[1:36:44] Pause. Dog swim at Civic Park.
[1:36:48] Uh, and then most importantly,
[1:36:50] it was my anniversary this
[1:36:51] week, so I have to give props
[1:36:55] to my wife on that.
[1:36:58] Brian.
[1:36:59] Awesome. Uh, usually we're up
[1:37:01] here talking about how bad the
[1:37:02] roads are. This time I get to
[1:37:03] say how good they are. Uh, Ward
[1:37:05] two, we got a lot of our slab replacements, and I've
[1:37:09] received a lot of kudos off of
[1:37:11] that, so. Yay! This is when the
[1:37:14] roads get repaired. People are
[1:37:16] happy, so that's great. Thank
[1:37:17] you.
[1:37:19] Ward three.
[1:37:21] Thank you. Mayor. Well,
[1:37:23] Councilman Boyer, that's great
[1:37:24] news because that means our
[1:37:25] slabs are next year. And so
[1:37:27] looking forward to that.
[1:37:28] Praise. Um, I want to share a
[1:37:29] couple things. So for those of
[1:37:30] you that don't know, I'm the
[1:37:31] council liaison to the Historic
[1:37:33] Preservation Commission. Uh, it
[1:37:35] feels like it's certainly been
[1:37:36] history since we last met. Uh,
[1:37:38] it's typically the first
[1:37:39] Tuesday of the month. So with
[1:37:41] the fourth, uh, and the
[1:37:42] election, it's been a couple of
[1:37:43] months, so we've had to meet,
[1:37:45] uh, so in either case, I wanted
[1:37:46] to share some updates from
[1:37:48] them. So they'll be at the Rail
[1:37:49] District Festival. Uh, that was
[1:37:51] mentioned earlier. They're
[1:37:52] going to have a table set up
[1:37:54] with some of the sturdier
[1:37:55] artifacts from the log cabin
[1:37:57] there. Um, they're also, uh,
[1:37:59] they've done a ton of work.
[1:38:00] They're almost completed with a
[1:38:03] new brochure that they're going
[1:38:04] to put out to a lot of the
[1:38:05] local businesses. I think
[1:38:07] they're looking to make 18,000
[1:38:09] copies of it. Uh, so quite a
[1:38:10] few, uh, but, you know, that'll
[1:38:12] share with some of our
[1:38:13] visitors, uh, O'Fallon history
[1:38:15] and hopefully draw them out to
[1:38:17] some more of our historical
[1:38:18] sites. Um, also, we're working
[1:38:20] on a project that kind of
[1:38:21] brings some history and
[1:38:22] technology together. Uh, I
[1:38:24] guess they have a series of
[1:38:26] interviews, uh, from residents
[1:38:27] back at the turn of the, the
[1:38:29] 19th century, uh, that are
[1:38:31] actually on tape. So we're
[1:38:32] going to be looking to convert
[1:38:34] those into digital recordings,
[1:38:36] uh, and share those on the
[1:38:37] website. Uh, and then the last
[1:38:39] thing just from earlier this
[1:38:40] evening that I'm happy to
[1:38:42] announce is that, uh, with the
[1:38:43] work of, uh, Councilman Boyer
[1:38:44] and myself, uh, we had
[1:38:46] unanimous council approval to
[1:38:48] proceed with the creation of a
[1:38:50] working group that will study
[1:38:51] the impacts of multifamily
[1:38:53] housing in the city. So it'll
[1:38:55] be a five member group, one
[1:38:56] from each ward, and will work
[1:38:58] to conduct those studies over
[1:39:00] the next several months and
[1:39:01] turn those into actionable
[1:39:02] outcomes. Thank you. Mayor.
[1:39:04] Mister Casella.
[1:39:05] Thank you. Mayor. I have
[1:39:06] nothing to report. Just to
[1:39:08] never forget. Thanks.
[1:39:09] Ward, for..
[1:39:12] Thank you. Um, so I wanted to
[1:39:14] talk about because tonight I'm
[1:39:17] proud to co-sponsor legislation
[1:39:20] with my ward partner, uh,
[1:39:21] council member Spencer,
[1:39:23] expanding citizens comments at
[1:39:26] our city council meetings,
[1:39:27] given residents the opportunity
[1:39:29] to speak about issues beyond
[1:39:31] what happens to be listed on
[1:39:33] that night's agenda. And why
[1:39:35] does this matter to me so much?
[1:39:37] Well, because we work for you.
[1:39:39] know, the residents of
[1:39:41] O'Fallon, you're not a guest at
[1:39:43] City Hall. You're not an
[1:39:45] inconvenience. You're our
[1:39:47] bosses. Your tax dollars fund,
[1:39:49] this city and those of us
[1:39:51] sitting behind this dais were
[1:39:53] elected to represent you. This
[1:39:55] dais is not a throne in which
[1:39:57] we rule on. It's a seat of
[1:39:59] public service. And we should
[1:40:00] never forget who put us here.
[1:40:02] So if you have concerns about
[1:40:04] your neighborhood, roads,
[1:40:06] public safety, development
[1:40:08] spending, or the direction of
[1:40:10] our city, you should have the
[1:40:11] opportunity to come before your
[1:40:13] elected representatives and be
[1:40:15] heard, even when what you have
[1:40:18] to say may be uncomfortable or
[1:40:20] something we may not that we
[1:40:22] may disagree with. You know,
[1:40:24] both of my grandfathers served
[1:40:26] for this country and fought to
[1:40:27] protect the freedoms that we
[1:40:29] enjoy and our fundamental right
[1:40:30] for the First Amendment rights.
[1:40:32] And I take those freedoms
[1:40:34] seriously. Government should
[1:40:36] not unnecessarily restrict the
[1:40:38] voices of our residents inside
[1:40:40] the city hall that belongs to
[1:40:42] them. Of course, meetings need
[1:40:44] reasonable rules and maintain
[1:40:46] order and ensure everyone has
[1:40:48] the opportunity to speak, but
[1:40:50] those rules should facilitate
[1:40:52] public participation, not
[1:40:54] become barriers to it. You
[1:40:56] know, like I said, we work for
[1:40:57] you, we answer to you, and we
[1:40:59] should listen to you. And
[1:41:01] public office is not about
[1:41:03] power over the people. It's
[1:41:05] about service to the people.
[1:41:07] And I'll continue working
[1:41:09] towards a city hall that
[1:41:10] remembers that distinction.
[1:41:12] Thank you.
[1:41:13] Miss Taylor. I'm
[1:41:15] sorry, Miss Benson.
[1:41:16] Again, if you want.
[1:41:18] I mean, she can go again if you
[1:41:19] really want her to, uh. I am
[1:41:22] also proud to be sponsoring a
[1:41:24] bill that would give citizens
[1:41:26] the opportunity to comment on
[1:41:27] city related topics that are
[1:41:29] not specifically listed on the
[1:41:31] council agenda. Um, and I
[1:41:33] believe residents should have a
[1:41:34] voice in the city that they
[1:41:36] choose to live in and a chance
[1:41:37] to bring forward questions,
[1:41:38] concerns and ideas and not be
[1:41:40] limited to emails, text
[1:41:41] messages and phone calls to do
[1:41:42] so. Um, it's about increasing
[1:41:45] communication, increasing
[1:41:46] transparency, and making sure
[1:41:48] that our residents feel heard.
[1:41:50] And I look forward to working
[1:41:52] with my fellow council members
[1:41:53] to figure out a way to move
[1:41:55] forward on this, where everyone
[1:41:56] can be happy. Um, I think the
[1:41:58] residents are expecting us to
[1:42:00] do better, and I think it's
[1:42:01] time we start to do better.
[1:42:03] Thank you.
[1:42:04] We're five.
[1:42:07] Well, everything's been spoken
[1:42:08] on. But since, um, I was
[1:42:11] reminded about anniversaries
[1:42:12] and since my husband just
[1:42:13] walked in the room. My. Our
[1:42:16] anniversary is next Saturday,
[1:42:17] so happy anniversary, dear.
[1:42:19] Oh, boy.
[1:42:23] That's what it was.
[1:42:26] Top that John. Mr. Palmer.
[1:42:29] Uh, I don't know if we should
[1:42:30] comment on the her husband's
[1:42:33] arm injury or not, but anyways,
[1:42:36] um, again tomorrow, a big day.
[1:42:39] Uh, I do want to start by
[1:42:41] expressing sympathy to a family
[1:42:42] friend of mine, uh, Patty Pike,
[1:42:44] who recently lost her long
[1:42:46] fight with cancer. Very
[1:42:47] humbling reminder of our
[1:42:49] mortality. And that bad things
[1:42:50] can happen even to the best of
[1:42:51] people. And a reminder that
[1:42:53] there are some things important
[1:42:54] that are very important in some
[1:42:55] that are not. So my thoughts
[1:42:57] and prayers are with her and
[1:42:58] her family. Also received a
[1:42:59] very nice email from a resident
[1:43:01] and on Saint Gemma Drive,
[1:43:02] complimented the city employees
[1:43:03] for the work that they were
[1:43:05] doing. Uh resident expressed
[1:43:06] gratitude for previous
[1:43:07] interactions with the city as
[1:43:08] well. Positive feedback like
[1:43:10] that's always appreciated. So I
[1:43:12] want to say thank you to the
[1:43:13] resident for taking the time to
[1:43:14] share, and especially thank you
[1:43:15] to Jay Farragut, Richard
[1:43:16] Boselli and their teams for
[1:43:17] being helpful and doing a good
[1:43:18] job. We don't usually get
[1:43:20] emails like that. Um, on
[1:43:22] tonight's agenda, I did request
[1:43:24] reconsideration of Bill 7879,
[1:43:28] which failed at our last
[1:43:29] council meeting. I want to be
[1:43:30] very clear about why I did
[1:43:33] that. No one pushed me to do
[1:43:35] this. No one convinced me,
[1:43:37] bullied me, or got to me. The
[1:43:39] mayor does not have magical
[1:43:40] powers over me. This is 100% me
[1:43:43] and I took it to some folks to
[1:43:46] try and get advice on
[1:43:47] procedurally how to do this and
[1:43:50] how to get it back. The matter
[1:43:52] back before the council. Anyone
[1:43:53] who knows me knows that the
[1:43:54] pressure and intimidation is
[1:43:56] really not a good way or an
[1:43:57] effective way to change my
[1:43:59] mind. I struggled with my vote
[1:44:01] on this proposal. As I said in
[1:44:03] the last meeting, I believe
[1:44:04] there are legitimate concerns
[1:44:06] that deserve to be addressed. I
[1:44:08] believe that we should explore
[1:44:09] whether additional requirements
[1:44:10] can be put in place to mitigate
[1:44:11] some of the problems we
[1:44:12] experienced in similar
[1:44:13] facilities elsewhere. At the
[1:44:15] same time, there's clearly a
[1:44:16] need, as we heard in the public
[1:44:17] comments for this facility. For
[1:44:18] facility like this, they are
[1:44:21] full. They have very long
[1:44:22] waiting lists, and I think we
[1:44:24] have an opportunity to provide
[1:44:25] to help meet the needs of this
[1:44:27] demographic and increase the
[1:44:28] available supply while
[1:44:29] strengthening protections for
[1:44:31] the residents who will live
[1:44:32] there. If the motion to
[1:44:33] reconsider successful, my
[1:44:35] intention is to move the table.
[1:44:36] Bill 7879 and ask city staff to
[1:44:39] evaluate potential enhancements
[1:44:40] to our conditional use permit
[1:44:42] requirements, city code
[1:44:43] enforcement provisions and
[1:44:44] penalty options. The goal will
[1:44:46] be determined whether we can
[1:44:47] better mitigate these types of
[1:44:49] issues that have occurred in
[1:44:49] similar facilities in the area,
[1:44:51] and potentially set aside any
[1:44:54] additional traffic concerns.
[1:44:56] Since last meeting, I received
[1:44:57] feedback indicating that some
[1:44:58] of the concerns I raised were
[1:44:59] shared by others. I'm hopeful
[1:45:01] that we can work together, find
[1:45:03] a responsible path forward, and
[1:45:04] that serves our senior, our
[1:45:05] senior community while
[1:45:07] addressing those concerns, I
[1:45:09] also believe it's important to
[1:45:10] recognize that the applicant
[1:45:11] had very little opportunity to
[1:45:12] respond to the concerns and
[1:45:14] requests raised at the last
[1:45:15] meeting, and I and I believe
[1:45:16] the outcome was a bit of a
[1:45:17] surprise. After doing original
[1:45:19] a little bit of research, I
[1:45:20] discovered why the same
[1:45:23] property and the substantially
[1:45:24] the same proposal, except for
[1:45:26] that the previous proposal was 33% larger with 56
[1:45:31] units instead of the current 42
[1:45:32] came before the council less
[1:45:33] than a year ago, as bills
[1:45:34] number 7797 on December 18th,
[1:45:38] 2025, Bill 7797 was approved by
[1:45:41] a vote of 8 to 0. At the time,
[1:45:43] one council position was vacant
[1:45:45] and my predecessor was absent
[1:45:47] because she was ill. Given that
[1:45:48] history, the applicant
[1:45:49] reasonably could have expected
[1:45:50] a similar proposal, now reduced
[1:45:52] from 56 to 42, would receive
[1:45:54] serious consideration and
[1:45:55] approval. They had no reason to
[1:45:56] believe otherwise. My purpose
[1:45:58] in asking for reconsideration
[1:45:59] is not to disregard concerns
[1:46:00] that were raised. It's the
[1:46:01] opposite. I want to give us an
[1:46:03] opportunity to address those
[1:46:04] concerns thoughtfully, and
[1:46:05] determine whether safeguards
[1:46:06] can be added, and then make the
[1:46:07] decision based on the best
[1:46:08] possible information. I believe
[1:46:10] that this is a responsible
[1:46:11] thing for us to do for the
[1:46:12] neighborhood, the city, and
[1:46:14] particularly for seniors who
[1:46:16] may ultimately depend on
[1:46:17] facilities like this. So I hope
[1:46:18] that I can receive your
[1:46:19] support. Thank you mayor.
[1:46:20] Thank you, Mr. Link.
[1:46:24] I'd like to thank Councilwoman
[1:46:28] Cook for reminding me that I
[1:46:29] also have an anniversary coming
[1:46:31] up, and I would probably be
[1:46:33] toast if I didn't say it. So,
[1:46:34] uh, happy birthday or. I'm
[1:46:36] sorry. Happy anniversary to my
[1:46:39] wife, Abby. Our anniversary is
[1:46:40] coming up on the 14th.
[1:46:41] Thank you. There you go. Nice
[1:46:43] job there, bud. Mr. Snowden, I
[1:46:47] don't know how to follow that.
[1:46:49] Perhaps I should apologize.
[1:46:50] To my wife for anything I may
[1:46:52] be about to do.
[1:46:53] I don't know.
[1:46:54] All right. Thank you. Mayor, I.
[1:46:56] I'd like to take a moment to
[1:46:58] acknowledge the contributions
[1:46:59] of staff members who are
[1:47:00] reaching milestone
[1:47:01] anniversaries this month.
[1:47:02] Police officers Adam, Ashley,
[1:47:04] Cody Fisher and Brandon
[1:47:05] Kubrick, along with building
[1:47:07] Inspector Nicholas Funk,
[1:47:09] maintenance worker Kyle DeWalt
[1:47:10] and parks construction worker
[1:47:12] Andrew Eiler have all been with
[1:47:13] us for five years. Utility
[1:47:15] worker two Bill Howard has been
[1:47:17] a part of team O'Fallon for ten
[1:47:19] years. And last but certainly
[1:47:21] not least, park's maintenance
[1:47:22] supervisor, Brian Kraft has
[1:47:24] served our city for 15 years,
[1:47:26] so I'd like to thank all eight
[1:47:27] of those individuals for being
[1:47:28] such an integral part of team
[1:47:29] O'Fallon for all these years.
[1:47:31] And that's all I have tonight,
[1:47:32] sir. All right. Brings dull
[1:47:34] business bring. They'll have a
[1:47:37] motion to for reconsideration
[1:47:39] of Bill 7879. Palmer lost by
[1:47:45] Councilman Palmer. Do I have a
[1:47:46] second?
[1:47:49] Wilcox.
[1:47:50] Councilman Wilcox. All in
[1:47:54] favor?
[1:47:54] All right.
[1:47:55] Any opposed?
[1:47:58] just heard the one.
[1:47:59] No more. No roll call.
[1:48:04] Beth.
[1:48:07] Councilmember link.
[1:48:09] Yes.
[1:48:09] Council member. Boyer.
[1:48:11] Yes.
[1:48:12] Council member. Cooke.
[1:48:13] No.
[1:48:14] Council member. Spencer.
[1:48:16] No.
[1:48:16] Council member. Wilcox.
[1:48:18] Yes.
[1:48:18] Council member. Yates.
[1:48:20] No.
[1:48:21] Councilmember. Koskela.
[1:48:23] Yes.
[1:48:23] Councilmember. Palmer.
[1:48:25] Yes.
[1:48:26] Councilmember. Taylor.
[1:48:27] No.
[1:48:28] Councilmember. Wexler.
[1:48:30] Yes.
[1:48:31] Six four.
[1:48:33] Yes.
[1:48:34] All right. Mr.. Palmer.
[1:48:38] So I would like to turn around,
[1:48:40] as I've mentioned in my open in
[1:48:41] my ward report, I'd like to
[1:48:43] table Bill 7879 and request a
[1:48:45] staff evaluate and propose
[1:48:47] potential enhancements to the
[1:48:48] conditional use permit
[1:48:49] requirements, applicable city
[1:48:50] provisions and enforcement and
[1:48:51] penalty options that could help
[1:48:53] us mitigate issues that we
[1:48:54] experience in similar
[1:48:55] facilities in the area.
[1:48:56] All right. So we have a motion
[1:48:57] to table 7879 by Councilman
[1:49:00] Palmer. Do I have a second?
[1:49:01] by Councilman Wilcox.
[1:49:05] Questions? All in favor?
[1:49:07] Aye.
[1:49:07] Any opposed?
[1:49:10] Do you want us to move forward?
[1:49:13] Nine one. Motion passes the
[1:49:17] table. Brings us to commit. Go
[1:49:25] ahead. Sir.
[1:49:26] So, does anything else need to
[1:49:27] happen for staff to commence on
[1:49:29] that? I'm new to this.
[1:49:33] No, sir.
[1:49:34] Thank you.
[1:49:37] All right. Brings us to
[1:49:52] committee and commission
[1:49:53] reports. Questions stand as
[1:49:58] read. Questions and comments on
[1:50:01] the consent calendar.
[1:50:04] Motion to approve.
[1:50:05] Second, Wexler.
[1:50:08] Councilman Koskela, seconded by
[1:50:10] Councilman Wexler. Councilman,
[1:50:12] cast your vote.
[1:50:18] The voting is closed.
[1:50:20] Ten. Yes. Zero. No. The consent
[1:50:22] calendar has been approved.
[1:50:24] Next is a public hearing to
[1:50:27] consider amending certain
[1:50:29] provisions of title for land
[1:50:30] use. Chapter 400 related
[1:50:32] regulations pertaining to
[1:50:34] development activities within
[1:50:35] the great city of O'Fallon,
[1:50:36] Missouri. Mr. woods.
[1:50:44] Thank you, Mayor and Council.
[1:50:46] This is really just kind of
[1:50:48] following up to the ordinance
[1:50:49] that was approved by, actually
[1:50:50] P and Z in the council just
[1:50:52] last month where we were want
[1:50:54] to limit commercial recreation.
[1:50:57] We we changed the code last month for industrial to
[1:51:00] limit that in industrial
[1:51:01] districts. This has taken it a
[1:51:02] little further, but taken out
[1:51:04] the commercial recreation in
[1:51:06] our high tech zoning. So that's
[1:51:08] the only, only thing that's
[1:51:09] being changed is changing that
[1:51:12] land use from being allowed in
[1:51:14] high tech, a recreational
[1:51:16] facility and that's what we've
[1:51:21] just done for industrial. Yes,
[1:51:22] sir.
[1:51:22] Okay. Questions for David.
[1:51:25] Yeah. Can you can you give me
[1:51:27] examples of these types of
[1:51:30] facilities that we would no
[1:51:31] longer allow in tech?
[1:51:32] Yeah, there's there's one I
[1:51:33] know of for sure. There was
[1:51:34] like a batting cage, batting
[1:51:36] cages, indoor batting cages was
[1:51:37] one, um, uh, like training,
[1:51:40] soccer training facilities. I
[1:51:42] know of a few of those around.
[1:51:44] Cheerleading, uh, would be
[1:51:46] something commercial
[1:51:47] recreation, uh, kind of fits a
[1:51:49] lot of those categories. Or
[1:51:52] uses.
[1:51:52] And then like that. Uh, reduces
[1:51:56] the flexibility on the use of
[1:51:57] that land. Is there like, what?
[1:52:00] I don't I'm not quite sure why
[1:52:01] it's a big deal.
[1:52:03] Well, I think, you know, rather
[1:52:05] than having those type of uses
[1:52:06] in, we're going to have more
[1:52:08] businesses that have, uh, you
[1:52:11] know, more the high tech, uh,
[1:52:14] offices, you know, research and
[1:52:17] development, rather than just
[1:52:18] having, you know, big
[1:52:20] warehouses not being used to.
[1:52:21] They're fulfilled, uh, proposed
[1:52:24] use.
[1:52:27] Mr. Lincoln.
[1:52:28] Uh, so, Mr. Woods, then, I
[1:52:31] guess those types of businesses
[1:52:33] would be more appropriate in,
[1:52:34] like C1, C2, as opposed to high
[1:52:38] tech corridor.
[1:52:39] Yeah, they would. They're still
[1:52:40] allowed in commercial.
[1:52:42] And those aren't changing at
[1:52:43] all. It's only the TCD that's
[1:52:46] impacted okay. Thank you.
[1:52:48] Anybody else David if you would
[1:52:51] step aside, Mr. Dean of.
[1:53:04] Thank you. Members of city
[1:53:06] Council. Um, as the last bill I
[1:53:10] oppose because I think that
[1:53:12] private property owner rights
[1:53:14] have the right to establish
[1:53:16] recreational needs in vacant
[1:53:18] buildings that we have
[1:53:20] throughout the city. Um, I
[1:53:21] think that that's an individual
[1:53:22] property right now when it
[1:53:24] comes to the high tech corridor
[1:53:26] we have decimated, we have
[1:53:28] destroyed this district. In my
[1:53:31] opposition over the last decade
[1:53:33] or two decades, almost, um,
[1:53:35] previous city councils have
[1:53:38] absolutely eroded the high
[1:53:41] technology corridor and zoning
[1:53:43] district. We have given in to
[1:53:45] special interest developers. We
[1:53:47] have given in to special money,
[1:53:49] we have given in to, um,
[1:53:54] destroying what the technology
[1:53:57] is, the future of our nation. I
[1:54:00] am in support of this change of
[1:54:02] article seven, uh, chapter 400,
[1:54:04] title four. By not allowing
[1:54:06] recreational facilities or
[1:54:08] indoor sales or service or
[1:54:10] commercial recreational
[1:54:12] opportunities in our high tech
[1:54:14] corridor, or that zoning
[1:54:16] district. Let's make a hard
[1:54:20] stand. City Council by stop
[1:54:22] giving game by stop giving in
[1:54:25] and giving away the zoning of
[1:54:27] our high technology district.
[1:54:29] We have given in to storage
[1:54:31] buildings. We have given in to
[1:54:33] banks. We have given in to car
[1:54:36] washes, and we have mostly
[1:54:38] given in to huge apartment
[1:54:40] complexes and our technology
[1:54:42] high, uh, um, our technology
[1:54:45] corridor. And I have opposed
[1:54:48] those issues. I oppose those
[1:54:49] zoning measures. We continue to
[1:54:51] give away and erode that
[1:54:54] district. We don't even have a
[1:54:55] district, almost. It's almost
[1:54:58] non-existent on the south side
[1:55:00] where we have Technology
[1:55:02] Boulevard. It's called
[1:55:03] Technology Boulevard for a
[1:55:04] reason, but it never came to
[1:55:06] fruition. We never took the
[1:55:09] breadcrumbs and never made some
[1:55:11] economic establishments and
[1:55:13] tried to gain national interest
[1:55:16] in attracting high tech
[1:55:18] industries to O'Fallon. And
[1:55:20] it's it's shameful because we
[1:55:22] have Mastercard, we have
[1:55:24] companies down there that are
[1:55:25] huge and that would just go
[1:55:27] hand in hand with each other.
[1:55:28] And then a high tech corridor
[1:55:30] district. So I'm in support of
[1:55:33] Bill number 78, 84. Um, and
[1:55:36] let's stop eroding what we have
[1:55:38] left. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[1:55:40] Thank you. No speakers will go
[1:55:43] ahead and close the public
[1:55:44] hearing. And brings us to Bill.
[1:55:45] Any questions for David?
[1:55:49] Thanks, David. Bill 7884. Most
[1:55:53] first reading. Lawyer was
[1:55:58] Councilmember Boyer, second.
[1:56:00] Palmer second by Councilman
[1:56:01] Palmer, Councilman Boyer,
[1:56:03] please present the bill.
[1:56:04] number 7884, an ordinance
[1:56:08] amending certain provisions of
[1:56:09] the title for land use. Chapter
[1:56:11] 400 related to regulations
[1:56:13] pertaining to development
[1:56:15] activities within the city of
[1:56:16] O'Fallon, Missouri.
[1:56:17] Thank you. Next is public
[1:56:18] hearing to consider leaving the
[1:56:20] property tax for the great city
[1:56:21] of O'Fallon, Missouri for the
[1:56:23] year 2026 for the purpose of
[1:56:25] general revenue and debt
[1:56:26] service. Miss Buescher.
[1:56:32] Good evening. On the agenda
[1:56:36] tonight is the first reading of
[1:56:38] the property tax ordinance.
[1:56:40] There are two rates that are
[1:56:42] being set. The first is our
[1:56:44] general levy. The general levy
[1:56:49] for last year was 0.2815. I am
[1:56:53] recommending that it stayed the
[1:56:55] same. Um, that rate is set
[1:56:57] using the Hancock amendment,
[1:56:59] and that is also certified
[1:57:01] through the Missouri State
[1:57:02] Auditor's office. So I am
[1:57:04] recommending that we levy that
[1:57:06] at the ceiling of which we're
[1:57:08] allowed to the second rate we
[1:57:10] levy is a debt service rate.
[1:57:12] This is the monies that we use
[1:57:14] to pay off the Geo bonds that
[1:57:16] were approved by our voters.
[1:57:18] There is a calculation that's
[1:57:21] used in order to set this levy.
[1:57:23] It's based on the amount of
[1:57:24] bonds that we issue in 2027,
[1:57:28] and the amount of bonds that
[1:57:30] are issued in 2028. The monies
[1:57:34] that we collect for our
[1:57:36] property taxes, a majority of
[1:57:38] those are collected in
[1:57:39] December, and up to 60 days
[1:57:41] after the end of the year. So a
[1:57:44] lot of the property taxes that
[1:57:46] we collect aren't collected
[1:57:47] until after the end of the
[1:57:48] year, which is why we're
[1:57:50] allowed to use two years worth
[1:57:51] of reserve. Um, that rate in
[1:57:56] 2025 was 0.1401. The ceiling
[1:58:02] for the debt service levy is at
[1:58:04] 0.1221. I am recommending
[1:58:08] dropping that to 0.1100. I
[1:58:12] believe we have sufficient
[1:58:13] reserves that will help drop
[1:58:15] the reserves just a little bit,
[1:58:16] to make sure that we're not
[1:58:17] holding on to too many of
[1:58:19] those. And if you have any
[1:58:21] questions for me, I am happy to
[1:58:22] answer them.
[1:58:23] Questions for Vicky. Mr.
[1:58:25] Lincoln.
[1:58:25] Thank you. Mayor, did you just
[1:58:27] say you're going to drop tax
[1:58:28] payer tax rates by 20% in one
[1:58:31] category?
[1:58:33] I did..
[1:58:34] Great news. Yep. Fully
[1:58:36] supported.
[1:58:37] Thank you.
[1:58:38] Anybody else? Thank you for
[1:58:41] your step aside. This public
[1:58:43] hearing, Mr. Danoff.
[1:58:55] Thank you very much. Members of
[1:58:56] council, this is on the
[1:58:59] proposed 2026 personal real
[1:59:02] estate Tax Levies Bill 7885.
[1:59:06] Um, the proposed general and
[1:59:08] debt service funds are a
[1:59:11] combination of 0.3915 on every
[1:59:14] $100. The valuation and how you
[1:59:18] do that is it's 18% for
[1:59:19] residential, 32% for commercial
[1:59:22] and 11% for agricultural. The
[1:59:24] state statute and state auditor
[1:59:26] require the pro forma, um, 8 to
[1:59:30] 12 pages must be reviewed,
[1:59:32] proofed and approved by the
[1:59:33] state auditor and their legal
[1:59:35] staff is legal, compliant and
[1:59:37] not to exceed voter approved
[1:59:39] tax ceilings. I asked the
[1:59:41] Director of Finance and the
[1:59:42] City Council to be transparent
[1:59:44] in the next go around with 2027
[1:59:47] and make sure that that's those
[1:59:49] proforma forms are published in
[1:59:51] the City Council packet to be
[1:59:53] transparent to all taxpayers.
[1:59:55] Um, where the new construction
[1:59:57] figures. I didn't see that in
[1:59:59] the memo by the Director of
[2:00:00] finance. I think that those are
[2:00:02] a tax increase to our city, and
[2:00:05] those go into immediate
[2:00:06] occupation. After 30 days of
[2:00:08] occupying, whether it's
[2:00:09] residential or commercial, we
[2:00:12] live off of sales taxes. That's
[2:00:15] predominantly the most that
[2:00:16] comes into our conferences
[2:00:17] sales taxes. And we need to
[2:00:19] back off and annually work
[2:00:21] towards lowering our tax levy
[2:00:24] responsibility on the backs of
[2:00:26] taxpayers. For those reasons, I
[2:00:29] am asking the City Council that
[2:00:31] you look at phasing out the
[2:00:33] personal property tax in its
[2:00:34] entirety, just as Saint Charles
[2:00:36] County did for this year. Um,
[2:00:39] no one in Saint Charles County
[2:00:40] for the General fund or the
[2:00:42] Alarm and dispatch Fund, or the
[2:00:44] road fund will be paying
[2:00:45] personal property tax at the
[2:00:47] county level. And I ask that we
[2:00:48] look at doing the same in
[2:00:50] workshop sessions. I propose
[2:00:53] that the two tax levies be set
[2:00:54] as following the general fund
[2:00:57] to be set at 0.2800, and the
[2:01:03] debt service fund at 0.1100,
[2:01:07] for a combined rate of 0.3900
[2:01:11] on 100 valuation. You know,
[2:01:13] we're all taxpayers. No one
[2:01:15] wants to pay taxes. But I
[2:01:16] believe the taxpayers deserve a
[2:01:18] break. I think we need to.
[2:01:20] We've set we've set record
[2:01:22] setting sales tax income for
[2:01:25] last 16 years. Um, year after
[2:01:27] year, historic income to our
[2:01:29] city. And we need to start
[2:01:31] backing off of our personal
[2:01:32] property and our real estate
[2:01:34] taxes. And so I hope that you
[2:01:36] adopt my recommendation over
[2:01:37] the recommendation of the
[2:01:38] finance director. I believe
[2:01:40] taxpayers deserve to have that
[2:01:41] slight, small break. Thank you,
[2:01:43] Mr. Mayor.
[2:01:44] Thank you. We have no other
[2:01:47] speakers, so we'll go ahead and
[2:01:49] close the public hearing. Any
[2:01:50] other questions for Vicki?
[2:01:53] Seeing none brings to Bill 7885
[2:01:56] motion for first reading.
[2:01:58] Kelly.
[2:01:59] Who was that link and. Motion
[2:02:04] by Councilman Lake, second by
[2:02:06] Councilmember Lake. Please
[2:02:08] present the bill.
[2:02:09] 7885, an ordinance
[2:02:13] providing for the levying of a
[2:02:14] property tax for the city of
[2:02:16] O'Fallon, Missouri for the year
[2:02:18] 2026. For the purposes of
[2:02:20] general revenue and debt
[2:02:22] service.
[2:02:22] Thank you. Brings Bill 7886
[2:02:25] motion first reading.
[2:02:26] Osceola.
[2:02:27] Mr. Costello, second link
[2:02:29] second by Councilman Lane.
[2:02:30] Councilman Costello, please
[2:02:31] present the bill.
[2:02:32] Thank you. Mayor Bill, number
[2:02:33] 7886. An ordinance providing
[2:02:36] for the approval and acceptance
[2:02:37] of the dedication of streets in
[2:02:39] certain storm sewers for
[2:02:40] maintenance by the City of
[2:02:41] Fallon, for the villages of
[2:02:42] post farms. Plat three.
[2:02:44] Thank you. Brings Bill 7887.
[2:02:47] Motion first reading.
[2:02:48] Wilcox.
[2:02:49] Councilman Wilcox, second.
[2:02:50] Wexler.
[2:02:51] Second Councilman Wexler.
[2:02:52] Councilman Wilcox, please
[2:02:53] present the bill.
[2:02:55] number 7887. An ordinance
[2:02:59] approving a cooperation
[2:03:00] reimbursement agreement between
[2:03:01] Green Rivers Greenway and the
[2:03:03] city of O'Fallon for the city
[2:03:04] to be reimbursed. A portion of
[2:03:06] the construction costs for the
[2:03:08] Great Rivers Greenway. Twin
[2:03:09] Island Trailhead project, and
[2:03:11] an amount not to exceed
[2:03:13] $275,000.
[2:03:16] Thank you. Brings Bill 7888
[2:03:18] motion first reading.
[2:03:21] Wexler.
[2:03:22] Councilman Wexler, second.
[2:03:24] Boyer.
[2:03:25] Thinking by Councilman Yates.
[2:03:26] Councilman Wexler, present the
[2:03:27] bill.
[2:03:28] number 7888. An ordinance
[2:03:31] authorizing the city of
[2:03:32] O'Fallon to enter into a
[2:03:33] building and code enforcement
[2:03:35] services mutual aid agreement
[2:03:37] for emergency and disaster
[2:03:38] response with Saint Charles
[2:03:39] County and area participating
[2:03:42] municipalities.
[2:03:42] Thank you. Brings Bill 7889.
[2:03:45] Most First Reading.
[2:03:46] Spencer.
[2:03:47] That's why Councilwoman Spencer
[2:03:48] second.
[2:03:49] Taylor.
[2:03:49] Councilman Taylor, Councilwoman
[2:03:51] Spencer, please present the
[2:03:52] bill.
[2:03:53] number 7889, an ordinance
[2:03:56] amending section 110.200 of the
[2:04:01] O'Fallon City Code relating to
[2:04:03] City Council meetings.
[2:04:04] Thank you. Brings Bill 7890
[2:04:07] first reading. Cook. Mr.
[2:04:08] Councilwoman Cook, second.
[2:04:09] Wexler.
[2:04:10] Thank Councilman Wexler.
[2:04:11] Councilwoman cook, please
[2:04:12] present the bill.
[2:04:14] Thank you. Mayor Bill, number
[2:04:16] 7890. An ordinance approving
[2:04:17] the record plant of O'Fallon
[2:04:19] Sports Center and authorizing
[2:04:20] the city clerk to attest and
[2:04:21] certify approval of said plat.
[2:04:23] Thank you. Motion for second
[2:04:24] reading by title only. Cook.
[2:04:26] Councilwoman cook, second.
[2:04:27] Wexler.
[2:04:29] Councilman Wexler. All in
[2:04:31] favor? Aye. Any opposed? Mr.
[2:04:33] O'Keefe?
[2:04:34] Bill. Number 7890. Second
[2:04:36] reading and consideration for
[2:04:37] adoption. An ordinance
[2:04:39] approving the record plat of
[2:04:40] O'Fallon Sports Center and
[2:04:41] authorizing the City clerk to
[2:04:43] attest and certify certify
[2:04:45] approval of said plat.
[2:04:46] Most final passage. Cook.
[2:04:48] Motion for Councilman Cook,
[2:04:49] second. We'll give it to Mr.
[2:04:51] Palmer this time. Questions or
[2:04:55] comments? Cast your vote.
[2:05:02] The voting is closed.
[2:05:04] Dan. Yes, 0078 90 passed
[2:05:09] becomes ordinance number.
[2:05:12] 73397339. Thank you. Bess.
[2:05:15] Questions or comments on
[2:05:17] resolution 910 2026 D is in
[2:05:20] David. Seeing none do a motion
[2:05:24] to introduce.
[2:05:27] Cook.
[2:05:28] Mr.. Councilman Cook, second.
[2:05:30] Boyer.
[2:05:31] Thank you, Councilmember Boyer.
[2:05:32] All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Mr.
[2:05:35] O'Keefe.
[2:05:37] Resolution nine 1020 2026 D as
[2:05:42] in. A resolution authorizing a
[2:05:46] multi-year agreement with Trek
[2:05:48] Design Group, LLC providing for
[2:05:50] sanitary sewer flow metering
[2:05:53] services.
[2:05:54] Motion for approval. Cook.
[2:05:55] Councilman. Cook. Second Boyer.
[2:05:57] Councilman. Boyer. Council
[2:05:58] members cast your vote.
[2:06:02] The voting is closed ten.
[2:06:05] Yes. Zero. No resolution has
[2:06:07] been approved. Questions or
[2:06:10] comments on resolution E.
[2:06:15] Seeing none. Most second to
[2:06:16] introduce Kelly McCaskill a
[2:06:19] second Wexler. Councilman
[2:06:20] Wexler. All in favor? Aye. Any
[2:06:22] opposed? Mr. O'Keefe?
[2:06:23] Resolution 910 2026EA
[2:06:26] resolution authorizing the
[2:06:28] purchase of a new honor of new
[2:06:30] honor guard uniforms and
[2:06:31] accessories in an amount not to
[2:06:33] exceed $25,000.
[2:06:35] Thank you most for approval.
[2:06:37] Cost Kelly..
[2:06:38] Mr. Koskela, second. Second by
[2:06:39] Councilman Wexler. Cast your
[2:06:41] vote.
[2:06:44] The voting is closed.
[2:06:47] Ten. Yes, zero. No. Resolution
[2:06:49] has been approved. Questions or
[2:06:52] comments on resolution F.
[2:06:57] Seeing. None. Motion to
[2:07:00] introduce cost. Kelly. Was
[2:07:01] McCaskill a second? Palmer by
[2:07:03] Councilman Palmer. All in favor?
[2:07:05] Any opposed?
[2:07:07] Mr. O'Keefe. Resolution 910
[2:07:10] 2026FA resolution authorizing
[2:07:13] an agreement with Charles E
[2:07:14] General Contracting, providing
[2:07:16] for chiller repairs the Justice
[2:07:18] Center in an amount not to
[2:07:19] exceed $23,168.
[2:07:24] Motion for approval.
[2:07:25] Costs.
[2:07:25] Kelly has a second.
[2:07:26] Yates.
[2:07:28] Seconded by Councilman Yates,
[2:07:30] cast your vote.
[2:07:34] Voting is closed.
[2:07:36] Ten. Yes. Zero. No. Resolution
[2:07:38] F has been approved. No further.
[2:07:41] Business meeting adjourned at
[2:07:43] 903.