[1:53] ification. Well, there is no reference. Good evening everyone. Go ahead and call

[1:59] the regular planning and zoning commission meeting for December 3rd, 2025 to order.

[2:07] Roll call. Kathy Bulan

[2:13] here. Capetta here. D Bernardo here. Hassan here. Memory here. Wilsack here. Control is

[2:23] not here. We have a quorum. We have a quorum. First item on the agenda is the approval of the

[2:34] minutes for the planning and zoning commission meeting on October 1st, 2025. Are there any

[2:41] uh changes or corrections that are needed? There's one correction that Kathy is going

[2:46] to add regarding my comment about the 50% masonry being inappropriate for the village.

[2:58] And uh I'd like to entertain a motion to modify the minutes as uh requested. Second.

[3:10] Roll call, please. Okay.

[3:15] Usually we don't do a roll call for that, but we can do voice vote. That's fine.

[3:20] Okay. Voice. All in favor say I. I. I. I. No opposed. All right. If they'll uh Kathy,

[3:30] if you'll amend the minutes and uh just make the comment that was asked for. And then we we and

[3:36] then we would need a motion to approve the minutes from the October 1st, 2025 planning and zoning

[3:42] commission meeting as modified. Sounds like a good plan. Let's make uh anybody want to make a motion

[3:50] to I'll make the motion to approve the minutes as modifi with modifications for that meeting.

[3:57] Second the motion. All in favor? I I any opposed? Hearing none. Uh the minutes the motion carries.

[4:11] We have no unfinished business. Um so we have one new business item. It's item 5A and that's for

[4:19] 3118 White Oak Lane, the Plat of Consolidation. Rama, can you give us an overview? Good evening.

[4:28] The owner of the property at 3118 White Oak Lane, it is requesting for the approval of a final plat

[4:36] consolidate two existing uh lots into one. And the owner is here to answer any questions.

[4:47] If I could ask as a petitioner if you'll just speak into the microphone and state

[4:51] your name and address. Hello, my name is Tim Kim. I'm the owner of 3118 in White Oak Lane.

[5:01] Thank you. Go ahead.

[5:06] No, I think it's a pretty straightforward request. The uh house is on lot one.

[5:11] We would like to consolidate the two lots and build a pool on lot two.

[5:25] Is there currently um actually I see no member from the public so there's probably no open it up

[5:31] to the commissioners. Any questions? Mr. Kim, do do you live in the house? I do. Okay. Thank you.

[5:43] This really does seem straightforward. It's, you know, he lives on one, he's going to consolidate

[5:48] it with his back lot. It's going to eliminate a flag lot, which we're always more than

[5:52] willing to get rid of. Nobody's, nobody's complaining. And when I looked at the map,

[5:58] nobody could complain. There's just there's nothing that would be upsetting about this.

[6:02] The pool is going to back up to 31st Street. So this this seems, you know, appropriate to me.

[6:14] Staff, were there any calls or comments from the None?

[6:21] Any other commissioners have anything to say? You know,

[6:26] I I do have one more thing. There was something in the packet in the staff recommendation.

[6:34] It said somewhere it said something like it appears to comply. Does that mean I just I

[6:47] didn't like that sentence. It just made me feel like maybe yes, maybe no. Is there anything in

[6:52] here? I'm trying to find where it was. Is there anything in here? It's on page six.

[6:58] Yeah. The proposal appears to comply with the subdivision and zoning ordinance regulations.

[7:03] Is there anything in here that appears not to comply? No. Okay.

[7:10] That was the only thing that really caught my attention.

[7:16] Were there any comments from the subdivision itself? Did they have any

[7:21] uh comment about it? Um, not that I can recall.

[7:30] If if anybody wants to make a motion and second it. I'll make a motion to I don't like reading

[7:35] this thing, but I will make a motion to approve the consolidation plat. I'll sec

[7:43] second the motion. Do we want to add according to the final engineering review and approval and

[7:50] uh recording of the document by village ar please? what Ken said.

[7:57] Eat Roco. D Bernardo. Nimry, yes. Capetta, yes. Bulan, yes. Hassan, yes. Wilsack,

[8:06] yes. The motion carries. Uh would you advise the U petitioner of what the next step is?

[8:16] This will be going to the next uh board meeting on January 13th for approval.

[8:23] Great. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you. Good luck with the pool. [Applause]

[8:38] Uh Kathy Ramo, is there anything upcoming for the future meeting?

[8:42] Uh I also wanted to update you regarding the um the 714 enterprise which uh came

[8:49] to the planning and zoning commission for the approval of an event space.

[8:52] So it did go to the board and uh it was not approved. It was not approved. No.

[9:04] Were they uh going to revisit anything or is it just uh No, they were just concerned about

[9:10] the president that it would set. uh because it's an office buildings area and it's also

[9:15] in an O1 district. So they were concerned about that and that's why they did not approve. No.

[9:25] And u we have uh one more uh project that's going to go to the board for a preliminary board review

[9:32] that's uh on the 1900 spring, the northernmost lot uh where uh it's being presented for a 13-story

[9:40] apartment building. And that will be on December 9th. Is that the former McDonald's property? Um,

[9:49] no. No. 1900. 1900 spring. It was the um previously approved as the Butler to be

[9:57] called the Butler. Yes. Butler condominium. Oh yeah. It was a 22tory condominium building

[10:01] originally. Correct. Correct. So that's not happening now. That's not happening.

[10:05] But we have another proposal for a 13-story apartment building for an apartment building,

[10:10] not a condo. Um likely to be converted probably. Okay. Um but yeah. And do you anticipate that in

[10:19] the January meeting? Um that's in the December 9th. So that's just a preliminary board review

[10:24] and then they will uh refer it to the planning and zoning commission. Then it'll have to undergo

[10:29] a plan development process. Thank you, Rama. Any other upcoming issues? Nope. That's all.

[10:39] If nobody else has anything to say, I can we make a Can I talk about old business for a second? I'm

[10:46] going to reiterate. Sure. Now I have something to read that will go maybe verbatim into the

[10:53] minutes or close thereof. It is important to consistently bring poor political agendas to

[11:00] light. The 50% masonry requirement of the village board insists on being part of the

[11:06] newly adopted zoning ordinance is an overstep of aesthetic control that has no place in local

[11:13] government. Oakbrook residential neighborhoods and the community as a whole have always been

[11:18] at the forefront of tasteful development and architecture. It is unreasonable to dictate

[11:24] a limited architectural style when so many good American architectural styles exist without the

[11:30] use of masonry. Please remove this atrocious constraint on creativity from our progressive

[11:37] yet conservative community. Thank you. Is that better? Anybody else have any comments?

[11:47] I would say one thing. Um, some subdivisions go far and uh above what the village requires. I

[11:56] mean, in my particular subdivision, they dictate what kind of garage door you can

[12:01] have. They dictate uh what kind of roof you can have. It's it's either got to be slate,

[12:06] tile, or cedar shake. So, in that light, I just want to bring up some of these in some of these

[12:13] subdivisions. It isn't the village, it's the individual subdivisions, architectural com

[12:17] committee, not what uh Jeff was speaking to, but I just wanted to mention that that some

[12:21] of these subdivisions even go far and beyond what the village does, but that's an HOA issue,

[12:28] which is not a government body. I'm speaking about a government body, and it's inappropriate for a

[12:34] government body to have that much aesthetic control. It didn't work in Oakbrook Mall.

[12:40] It hasn't worked elsewhere. When Oakbrook Mall was created, if they had had these constraints,

[12:45] who knows what we would have ended up with. And in turn, it's one of the best malls in the country.

[12:53] There's a lot of architects and designers that have spoke out against this requirement,

[12:59] and there's statistics to show that this is a bad requirement based on architectural styles.

[13:07] You can have some pretty atrocious looking things that are all masonry.

[13:18] If there are no additional comments, uh, I'd entertain a motion to adjourn the meeting.

[13:22] So moved. Second the meet. Second motion. A motion has been made and seconded uh to

[13:28] adjourn the meeting. May I have a voice vote? All in favor? I. Any oppose? Happy holidays. Day one.

2025-12-03 Village of Oak Brook Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting

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