[0:47] If you would like helpYes, but you think, you

[0:51] I and not been a. Thank you or

[1:09] me about it.

[12:00] Good evening,

[12:03] everyone. We're going to get

[12:05] started. Chair is requested

[12:13] that we get started. Welcome

[12:13] to welcome to the Oakland

[12:14] Public Safety Planning and

[12:15] Oversight Commission meeting

[12:18] Monday on Tobar 19th 2026. And

[12:21] I will call the roll. Chair

[12:36] Owens.

[12:43] Commissioner to is

[12:44] online at. Don't think she's

[12:52] available just yet.

[12:54] Commissioner Dixon, I'm here.

[12:58] Okay. Thank you. You do have a

[13:00] quorum chair and I have one

[13:02] housekeeping note is that it's

[13:03] going to be important that you

[13:05] turn your mike off if you're

[13:06] not using it, only turn your

[13:07] mic on when you when you have.

[13:10] We're speaking. Okay. Thank

[13:10] you. Thank you all for being

[13:16] here this evening. Okay. Next,

[13:19] we can move to real class or

[13:23] I'm sorry to meeting minutes.

[13:26] To prove all moved to prove.

[13:29] Last month's meeting minutes.

[13:30] My apologies. Share them

[13:31] innocent. Making to Okay.

[13:33] We'll do that next month and

[13:34] thank you, ok? So we can move

[13:37] on to public comment. For any

[13:39] agenda, aisd items within

[13:46] spock's jurisdiction. And

[13:47] chair. You have one hand

[13:50] raised on zoom as regime and

[13:51] al Esmond. Allen point to

[13:52] start the clock in just a

[13:54] moment. Can begin your

[14:09] comments.

[14:28] As my dog. You can

[14:31] begin your comments. Thank

[14:33] you. High rise name district

[14:37] 4. I have 2 comments regarding

[14:38] measure and then spending and

[14:39] oversight first. I just wanted

[14:40] to raise a question about the

[14:41] effectiveness of bp's you fly

[14:43] thing coach program. Which

[14:45] falls squarely with within

[14:48] this commission's oversight

[14:48] responsibilities. The Urban

[14:49] Institute evaluation that was

[14:52] presented here come moments

[14:54] ago found no statistically

[14:55] detectable relationship

[14:55] between youth coaching

[14:58] sessions and arrests. And

[15:01] David moments earlier,

[15:01] cease-fire assessment also

[15:02] raised concerns about whether

[15:03] violence prevention services

[15:04] are reaching those at highest

[15:07] risk of violence. Neither

[15:08] study proves youths life

[15:10] coaching doesn't work. But

[15:10] together they raise important

[15:11] questions about targeting and

[15:16] effectiveness. So job Spock in

[15:17] addition to the audit as well

[15:19] as evaluation program or if

[15:20] he'll be discussing later

[15:22] today to examine both the

[15:23] findings and ask the vp what

[15:24] changes have been made in

[15:27] response. My second item was

[15:29] that I strongly support opd

[15:30] proposed funding for the drone

[15:32] as First Responder program

[15:33] with their severely

[15:34] understaffed police department

[15:35] improving 9-1-1. Response

[15:39] times is critical. Dia far can

[15:41] help officers assessed

[15:42] emergencies more quickly

[15:43] deploy limited resources, more

[15:44] effectively and improve public

[15:45] safety. So I urge up spot to

[15:47] approve the proposed up our

[15:48] funding. This is exactly that

[15:49] kind of investment mentioned

[15:52] in to support and unnecessary

[15:53] funding. Delays would only

[15:54] postpone these potential

[15:54] public safety benefits. Thank

[16:00] you. Thank you for your

[16:01] comment. Will definitely bring

[16:05] that up with the vp also the d

[16:07] if our program was included in

[16:07] the cvr p document. And so it

[16:10] already has are approval to

[16:11] move forward and it's going

[16:12] through the process is with

[16:14] City Council and other. Well,

[16:22] that commissions. If you have,

[16:23] if you're on zoom and you

[16:27] have. Any comments and public

[16:28] comment item number 3 on the

[16:29] agenda, please raise your

[16:36] hand. Terrell, see any

[16:37] additional raise, MR. Boat

[16:42] Ride Em in a comment. Okay.

[16:43] Thank you. Think that public

[16:50] comment chair. And we can move

[16:51] on to our first report item,

[16:52] which is a presentation from

[16:53] opd on their updated spending

[17:07] plan.

[17:13] Before opd Is there

[17:14] someone that can fix the

[17:20] monitor over here? I will come

[17:26] over and to is it on? It was.

[17:28] And then it it says no signal.

[17:32] Okay. Okay. Top. We have a

[17:33] monitor that is showing no

[17:37] signal at this time. Let's

[17:37] take 5 minutes to work on the

[17:44] tech issues. Okay. Okay. We go

[17:47] ahead. We just want okay.

[17:48] Thank you. I and and that just

[17:49] like a top know that we do

[17:50] have an issue with the

[17:59] monitor. Chiefs at Tesco will

[18:00] come to the podium with even

[18:01] see him speak, see and hear

[18:15] him speak.

[18:26] Test test. There

[18:35] go. All right. I'm deputy

[18:36] Chief Anthony to Des Cohen

[18:38] here to present the opd by

[18:43] annual update on the 26 27

[18:44] budget. And that's part of the

[18:46] opd priority spending plan for

[18:53] fiscal years. 26 29. I'm just

[18:54] going to go through. We have 4

[18:58] spending. Items that are

[19:13] relevant for this fiscal year.

[19:21] Thank So of the 4. Items, the

[19:24] expenses for this fiscal year.

[19:28] Filled in the document that

[19:29] spark requested and the new

[19:30] format and the table that has

[19:33] each of the items, the

[19:34] corresponding expense to see

[19:36] the rp goals and strategy and

[19:38] then the estimated yearly

[19:41] recurring cost. And so the

[19:44] first and largest, portion of

[19:46] the budget is maintaining

[19:48] sworn staff in support a

[19:48] ceasefire strategy. Crime

[19:49] reduction team in real-time

[19:54] operations center. This is an

[19:55] expense an estimated expense

[19:58] of 22 million do just over. 22

[20:04] and a half million. This is 37

[20:04] positions within the

[20:08] cease-fire section. And the

[20:09] real time Operation Center and

[20:10] an additional 11 positions

[20:12] within the. Crime reduction

[20:18] teams. That is in line with

[20:22] goals. 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, In the

[20:22] cvr p and specifically

[20:29] strategies to 3, 6, 9, This is

[20:30] specifically costs associated

[20:35] with the. Salary and benefits

[20:37] for sworn police officers in

[20:38] those sections. Probably the

[20:41] that the simplest to explain.

[20:42] But the largest portion of the

[20:48] cost. It is in line. With the.

[20:49] Outline of the measure in the

[20:52] cvr. Pete. Currently there is

[20:57] a shortfall in the number of

[21:00] persons. Assigned in the

[21:04] cease-fire section. There are

[21:05] 4 of this 6 sergeant positions

[21:09] filled. And 22 of the 37

[21:11] officer positions filled. And

[21:15] this is specifically. Because

[21:18] of the departments, current

[21:21] staffing numbers were at 601,

[21:21] in our latest reports. Other

[21:24] just isn't enough officers in

[21:36] the police department to fill

[21:37] Probably simplest. If I pause

[21:39] for questions on each expense

[21:40] or do you, would you like me

[21:51] to go all 4 expenses? Prefer?

[21:56] The? Next expense in the

[21:58] report is the police

[21:59] dispatchers in our

[22:03] communications center. 7

[22:09] positions from. 7 positions

[22:10] within our dispatch center,

[22:11] funded by and in in support of

[22:14] goals, 4, 5, 6, and crp and

[22:14] strategy 5. This is

[22:18] approximately 1.5 Million and

[22:23] expense. Is. Currently

[22:28] supporting. Were authorized 78

[22:31] dispatchers. We currently have

[22:34] 65 and again measuring is

[22:36] supporting 7 of those

[22:39] positions. We do have 80

[22:40] persons in the background

[22:45] process. So we are. Working

[22:47] diligently to get those last

[22:49] 13 positions filled and hope

[22:56] soon that they will be filled.

[22:56] This is specifically I think

[22:59] the goals are somewhat

[23:00] self-explanatory, but this is

[23:01] directly related to reducing

[23:05] 9-1-1, call time answering

[23:13] speeds as well as response.

[23:14] Expense. Number 3 is expanding

[23:15] the efforts of a recruiting in

[23:20] background unit. This cost is.

[23:23] 850,000 in support of goal. 7

[23:24] of the crp and strategy.

[23:29] Number 5. These this funding

[23:31] is specifically for additional

[23:37] outreach. So that our

[23:38] recruiting background, you

[23:39] could have a broader and

[23:44] deeper reach. The goal

[23:45] associated with this is trying

[23:46] to get each of our police

[23:49] academies. Filled to the

[23:51] absolute maximum that the

[23:51] postal out, the highest

[23:55] quality. Most qualified

[23:55] candidates that we can

[24:00] recruit. Are 100 97th Academy

[24:03] is set to graduate next month.

[24:05] It currently has 18 trainees.

[24:08] The 190th is set to graduate

[24:11] in MARCH. They have 43.

[24:15] Training is currently. And

[24:16] then we have 2 more academies

[24:20] that will start in. Calendar

[24:22] year 2027, 1 again, JANUARY

[24:25] and another in JUNE. Both of

[24:28] those academies. Will be set

[24:31] to graduate in the following

[24:33] fiscal year and we don't have

[24:34] estimates on the numbers for

[24:38] those exits too soon. But

[24:38] we're hoping that we will be

[24:41] able to staff at least 50 in

[24:42] 2, each of them. And that's

[24:42] what this funding is

[24:48] supporting. Additionally. We

[24:52] are scheduling. A lateral

[24:55] academy. We're hoping for a

[24:56] 2027 start and 10 officers to

[24:58] help bolster numbers. And we

[25:00] have also started restarted

[25:04] are. Cadet program. And we are

[25:05] we have 6, I believe currently

[25:09] hired. And we are. Aiming to

[25:17] hire 2.18 Next question that

[25:20] could get. The 6th at a higher

[25:25] where the front. I don't have

[25:26] the backgrounds for each of

[25:28] the 6 cadets, but there

[25:33] Oakland. We're recruiting with

[25:47] in Oakland schools. And the

[25:49] last expense expense number

[25:50] for modernizing investigative

[25:51] tools to include the drawn

[25:54] First responder program. This

[25:56] is a cost of 432,000 in

[25:58] support of cvr p goals. 1, 3,

[26:01] 5, 6, And specifically crp

[26:06] strategy. 12. Seeking to

[26:08] implement the deal far.

[26:12] Program citywide. We are in

[26:14] process with the Privacy

[26:18] Advisory Committee. We are

[26:22] hoping that we will be moving

[26:23] forward with a contract

[26:23] proposal by the end of the

[26:27] year. By the end of the

[26:28] calendar year so that we can

[26:29] begin this program within this

[26:35] fiscal year. And again, the

[26:37] dia far program. Is meant to

[26:39] support primarily that troll

[26:42] division. As well as other

[26:43] investigative units to speed

[26:49] up response. This is not

[26:50] perfect replacement for an air

[26:51] support unit, helicopter or

[26:54] plane. But it is another tool

[26:55] akin to those things that can

[26:59] get information and collect

[27:00] evidence before an officer is

[27:01] able to travel across the city

[27:04] to that location and can

[27:05] provide valuable insight,

[27:06] including clearing things that

[27:07] words actually not nothing is

[27:09] happening or the person is

[27:10] already gone so it could

[27:11] potentially save are patrolled

[27:14] mission a lot of time. Those

[27:17] are the 4 expenses. That we

[27:20] have proposed. Or that we are

[27:21] happy in progress. I'm sorry

[27:25] for this year. The cost

[27:29] estimates. All proximate based

[27:31] on current projections.

[27:36] Obviously, we're. Only 4

[27:37] months into the fiscal year.

[27:45] So projecting out. The. Each

[27:48] of these expenses has. A set

[27:51] of metrics. That we are

[27:57] reviewing. Effectiveness. For

[28:03] instance. Expense number one.

[28:10] The data collection plan. It's

[28:10] primarily in reducing violent

[28:13] crime. You can see in the

[28:20] report. Submitted Spock. It

[28:21] includes the number of

[28:22] personnel assigned to the

[28:26] unit, but it also includes the

[28:26] crime data that these units

[28:30] are intended to impact. So you

[28:31] can see we have an 18%

[28:32] reduction in homicides,

[28:35] year-to-date. And 18%

[28:36] reduction in assault with a

[28:39] firearm. That's us all to the

[28:41] fire on a person. Shooting at

[28:44] an occupied home or dwelling

[28:49] down. 57 1% shooting at a an

[28:50] occupied home or vehicle down.

[28:53] 47% robberies are down. 26%

[28:55] carjackings down. 28%. These

[28:58] are each of the. Metrics that

[28:59] were submitted in the opd

[29:01] priority spending plan that we

[29:02] would measure. And we're

[29:07] looking for ad. A 10%

[29:07] reduction overall in. So we're

[29:08] trending in the right

[29:09] direction for months. Into the

[29:20] strategy. At this point, pass

[29:23] for questions. Thank you,

[29:28] chief. And you guys are making

[29:28] amazing Streisand. We commend

[29:30] the people that have been

[29:32] there putting in the work,

[29:33] especially our frontline

[29:38] officers. For item number 2,

[29:39] maintaining dispatchers at the

[29:43] police communications center.

[29:45] Is there anything outside of

[29:47] the physical dispatchers, the

[29:48] staffing that you are looking

[29:53] to improve? We're bringing on.

[29:54] And if so, what are those

[29:59] things? Our dispatch center

[30:01] has undertaken a number of

[30:02] different procedures in order

[30:06] to speed up. Call times

[30:09] shorten wait times speed

[30:12] answering. And with that

[30:12] speeding up the amount of time

[30:16] it takes officer too. So they

[30:17] have an automated system that

[30:19] queues people through the

[30:23] dispatch phone tree so they

[30:25] can get to the right place

[30:26] faster. They spend less time

[30:27] lag are going to the wrong

[30:27] place and having to be

[30:28] redirected, which is just

[30:31] slows the entire system. Has

[30:36] been in place. 4 I think a

[30:37] good portion of this year

[30:38] already. And it's made a very

[30:38] big difference to the dispatch

[30:43] center. Also, our

[30:44] communications supervisors,

[30:45] reorganized scheduling trying

[30:48] to match audit peak call

[30:50] times. It's also having a

[30:51] pretty significant impact. I

[30:54] don't have the data from their

[30:56] last report, but I could

[30:56] provide it. I think they've

[30:58] they've reported a few times.

[31:00] They're getting much closer to

[31:01] state standard on 9-1-1,

[31:02] answering speed are not quite

[31:05] there yet, but we have made

[31:06] big strides towards those

[31:11] standards in the last year.

[31:12] That's awesome. Thank you. If

[31:12] you could also just kind of

[31:13] keep a surprise this to any

[31:17] other. Strategies are quick

[31:18] and when you refer to them,

[31:19] that would definitely be

[31:27] helpful. To desk. See that in

[31:29] terms of how we're going to

[31:34] track success. We have number

[31:35] of dispatchers, but I also

[31:39] would like to know if opd is

[31:41] considering using the answer

[31:43] speed as a metric of success.

[31:44] I know that's one of the

[31:49] overall goals of top spot.

[31:51] Safety plan and so wondering

[31:52] if that's something that you

[31:53] guys are considering because

[31:54] I'm sure it's going to be part

[31:59] of evaluation plan. I think

[32:00] absolutely. That can be added

[32:01] into the data collection plan

[32:01] and the metrics for success

[32:06] for this expense too. If you

[32:08] recall in Pieper already

[32:09] spending plan, we had funding

[32:10] additional dispatchers in the

[32:13] second phase. So this is a bit

[32:13] ahead of schedule and it's

[32:16] just really out of need in

[32:17] order to maximize the staff of

[32:19] the dispatch center. We were

[32:20] hoping that we would be able

[32:23] to maintain staff otherwise,

[32:24] but it has not been the case.

[32:26] And so in order to get to that

[32:28] 78 number, 7 position funding

[32:29] was necessary. And so this is

[32:32] in a bit ahead of our planned

[32:34] phasing, but I can definitely

[32:37] add the metric of 9-1-1,

[32:38] answering speed because I

[32:39] think that I agree that it's

[32:44] appropriate. And then one more

[32:45] during the community

[32:47] engagement sessions that we

[32:51] held several community members

[32:56] mentioned need for.

[32:58] Dispatchers that spoke other

[32:58] languages besides English to

[33:04] help with the speed of

[33:06] support. And and so is there a

[33:07] specific plan to ensure that

[33:09] the 7 positions funded through

[33:14] measure and will be positions

[33:14] folks at speak other

[33:16] languages, Spanish Cantonese

[33:21] era, they could cetera. When

[33:25] we fund positions in any

[33:27] classification. There isn't

[33:31] that? Well, there are. I think

[33:36] there isn't that tracking to

[33:37] the specific positions being

[33:38] funded, having skillsets

[33:39] within that it's just the

[33:41] broader cent of 78 funded

[33:44] positions with a series of

[33:47] qualifications and I would one

[33:49] of the things that we do seek

[33:53] is dispatchers that can speak

[33:54] multiple language extremely

[33:56] valuable in speeding up the

[33:59] process. But we don't fund by

[34:00] whether or not dispatchers

[34:01] bilingual in the position

[34:09] tracking. But I think I could.

[34:11] Separately get obtain data on

[34:12] the number of dispatchers that

[34:12] are bilingual and report that

[34:16] back to you. Definitely,

[34:17] especially for those 7

[34:18] positions that are going to be

[34:19] funded directly through

[34:19] measure. And and I think that

[34:20] would be a great day to point

[34:21] to share out. Thank you so

[34:35] much. Let's go to backgrounder

[34:38] recruiting. Can you next time

[34:42] coming with the? Number of

[34:43] offices that action to

[34:47] department. For the last 3

[34:52] months. Because I want to see

[34:55] how effective. Mayor

[34:56] effective. That's probably an

[35:04] actor. Correct word. Their

[35:04] replacements that's coming Are

[35:06] we getting enough people to a

[35:06] place the amount of people

[35:13] were losing? Class one 97. How

[35:17] many people do to start with?

[35:23] I believe the 190 7th Academy

[35:24] started. It was in the high

[35:25] 30's. I don't want to

[35:25] misquote, but I believe it

[35:29] was. It was the night 30's. I

[35:29] don't the exact number. So

[35:35] about half of made it. War.

[35:41] And the 198, the Camille. It

[35:44] started correct? Yes. And how

[35:46] many did it start with? I

[35:49] believe it started with 46.

[35:52] And when did it start? It's

[35:55] been just over a month and

[35:55] there are already lost 3

[36:01] people. Question is will not

[36:02] ask. I'm not asking about the

[36:04] academy. I'm asking about.

[36:05] Getting our numbers up in

[36:08] Oakland. And that's been one

[36:10] of my pet peeves is getting

[36:13] the numbers up. And it don't

[36:17] seem like. We're graduating in

[36:19] a far we have enough academies

[36:20] lined up to replace those

[36:22] people that we're losing. And

[36:29] so. Is there any other plants?

[36:31] See, we got matter. Coming in.

[36:35] And then I heard recently at a

[36:38] meeting we have people come

[36:39] back from agencies come backto

[36:41] back to opd, which I found

[36:44] encouraging. So is there any

[36:45] other things that we have

[36:49] that? Get our numbers up in

[36:53] that area? I think important

[36:57] to note in. Expense number 3

[36:58] in the in the data collection

[36:59] plan and the metrics for

[37:02] success. Number 4. Is

[37:04] monitoring the attrition rate.

[37:05] Trying to reduce the attrition

[37:10] or a 10% reduction. And of no.

[37:15] Over the last. Since JULY.

[37:18] We've only had 4 officers.

[37:23] Which is. Significantly.

[37:24] That's a significantly lower

[37:27] number. We have lost about 5

[37:31] and a half officers. Pretty

[37:34] steadily. Does you know, month

[37:36] to month that changes. But the

[37:38] average is usually about 5 and

[37:39] a half percent for for the

[37:42] last 2 decades. So to see only

[37:43] 4 separate in just about 3 and

[37:48] a half. Is a significant

[37:49] improvement on our previous

[37:52] attrition rate. There's a lot

[37:53] of factors that go into that.

[37:54] And I would caution that it is

[37:59] early. Measuring this number,

[38:01] right, because we could have a

[38:01] larger number. That brings the

[38:04] that average up. Any given

[38:05] month. But right now we're

[38:08] definitely trending. So I

[38:09] think that keeping the people

[38:12] that we have getting this

[38:13] lateral academy going getting

[38:15] 10 more on that route. That's

[38:17] another source of officers

[38:17] that we weren't otherwise

[38:21] pursuing in previous years.

[38:24] Getting the cadet program

[38:26] staffed getting started is

[38:27] tremendous success. Getting

[38:30] this the numbers of cadets up

[38:31] because that is more of a

[38:32] long-term investment. That's

[38:33] good. That's will be going to

[38:33] academies and years down the

[38:36] road. So getting that staff to

[38:38] pull pay dividends downstream

[38:39] for us. So we need to keep the

[38:42] people that we have here. We

[38:43] need to get more people into

[38:47] these kind nice qualified

[38:47] candidates into these

[38:48] academies who can who can

[38:49] successfully navigated

[38:54] graduate? What are some of

[38:56] challenges you're finding with

[38:59] the cadets in the academy's?

[39:00] That is preventing them from

[39:04] successfully completing. That

[39:07] police officer trainees pio

[39:10] tease in the academy's.

[39:12] There's a number of different

[39:15] subjects that are challenging.

[39:16] Arresting control, defensive

[39:23] tactics. Firearms. Emergency

[39:24] driving. Those are things that

[39:26] are traditionally have higher

[39:30] failure rates. I can say that.

[39:32] Emergency driving has. Been

[39:36] more of a challenge with with

[39:39] a number of people that fail.

[39:42] And I think it is. I've heard

[39:45] reports from the Academy.

[39:48] About their reasoning. We're

[39:49] seeing a larger number of

[39:50] young people coming to the

[39:51] academy that don't drive.

[39:54] Don't drive on their own.

[39:56] Because of that. They don't

[40:01] have as much experiences

[40:01] previous generations coming

[40:02] through the police academy. So

[40:06] they're there. Developing a

[40:09] skill that is significantly

[40:10] further behind and they're

[40:13] being asked to get that skill

[40:14] to a very high level in a

[40:17] short period of time. So we're

[40:18] trying to do things to

[40:20] accommodate that kind of a

[40:21] generational shift. So you can

[40:25] get more practice earlier.

[40:26] Something that we're going to

[40:27] try to focus on its a very

[40:28] difficult thing to do in a pre

[40:32] Academy. It just takes a lot

[40:33] of effort to coordinate

[40:36] emergency driving training.

[40:37] But it is something that we

[40:39] recognize is a challenge and

[40:40] something that we're going to

[40:41] have to put extra focus on,

[40:43] because I think that these

[40:44] there are many that could pass

[40:49] with additional training time.

[40:52] Just a wild thing thanking

[40:54] very broad and futuristic.

[40:58] What if you all the try first

[41:03] training for young people. Got

[41:03] them their hours so they can

[41:08] go to dmv. Kind of funneled

[41:11] into the cadet program from

[41:12] the cadet program. You see

[41:16] where I'm going with this. I

[41:17] think that there is definitely

[41:20] a skill set that we can

[41:23] bridge. I'm not sure of the

[41:25] viability of that particular

[41:27] pathway, but at this point, I

[41:29] want people to graduate the

[41:30] academy who are well qualified

[41:31] and well trained. So I'm I'm

[41:32] willing to look at just about

[41:39] anything. I like to evacuate.

[41:43] Why they struggling so much.

[41:44] I'm sure it is very

[41:46] challenging. I'm going to go

[41:47] ahead and apologize in

[41:48] advance. Number of questions

[41:55] that I have okay. So.

[41:59] Regarding expense number one

[42:01] as opd increases staffing most

[42:04] officers. How will different

[42:06] investigative units be

[42:07] prioritized or will there be a

[42:07] lag time for backfilling

[42:15] patrol positions? The patrol

[42:16] division, the criminal

[42:19] investigation. Division, I

[42:20] think are core functions of

[42:24] the police department. When

[42:25] you call 9-1-1. The provision

[42:26] is the one that shows up. We

[42:29] have to keep that staffed.

[42:32] That's critical in order to

[42:33] keep the one of the the goals

[42:36] of the strategies to reduce

[42:39] response time. And I think a

[42:43] short phone patrol it directly

[42:44] impacts that ability and it

[42:48] has a ripple effect through

[42:49] the entire police department

[42:50] because fewer patrol officers

[42:52] means it's more difficult to

[42:55] conduct good preliminary

[42:56] investigations. Poor

[42:57] preliminary investigation

[42:57] means that the criminal

[42:58] investigations division has

[42:59] more work to do with an

[43:00] already struggling staff,

[43:00] which means fewer cases get

[43:07] solved, which means. The

[43:07] cascade effect, I think is

[43:08] pretty self-explanatory there.

[43:09] So we need good preliminary

[43:10] investigations, means we need

[43:14] a well-staffed Cole. Victims

[43:19] of a crime. Deserve to know

[43:20] that person is going to do

[43:22] follow-up on that crime. Try

[43:26] to bring a measure of justice.

[43:27] That means that we have to

[43:28] staff to criminal

[43:29] investigations division. It is

[43:32] then. And see it currently. I

[43:37] don't know that it can. Get

[43:39] thinner. So it needs staffing

[43:40] that they're currently needs

[43:41] to be maintained at minimum.

[43:46] And if not. If not improved.

[43:50] So within that we have cut.

[43:51] Other specialized unit so that

[43:53] we can prioritize the

[43:53] cease-fire section. The

[43:57] ceasefire strategy. And the

[43:58] crime reduction teams are

[43:59] trying to maintain at least 2.

[44:00] Crime reduction teams

[44:06] citywide. And we're trying to

[44:07] maintain the cease-fire squads

[44:10] in the real-time operations

[44:10] center, squats, you can see

[44:14] that it is challenge. There

[44:17] are shortfalls and the number

[44:18] of people that were able to

[44:20] get into those positions. The

[44:21] way that we're going to solve

[44:25] that is. We talked about the

[44:27] previous expense. We've got to

[44:31] get more people. Qualified

[44:32] candidates in 2 and graduated

[44:33] from the academy. And we've

[44:33] got to reduce attrition

[44:42] numbers. Thank Maybe break

[44:45] down the sworn versus

[44:46] professional staff numbers to

[44:47] support cease-fire, crt and

[44:51] rto. Just so that we can and

[44:52] this can just not to be at the

[44:53] top of your head because I

[44:56] would know it either. We do

[44:59] need to confirm the compliance

[44:59] with the measure budget

[45:01] allocations a 50% and 10% for

[45:01] sworn and non-sworn

[45:09] respectively. The numbers in.

[45:09] Expense. One that's all sworn

[45:20] staff. So those numbers.

[45:22] Compliance with the measure

[45:25] getting that 5, 6, towards

[45:25] storm staff, 1, 6, towards

[45:26] professional staff and

[45:30] technology. So that is

[45:31] designed intentionally in

[45:34] order to meet those ratios. I

[45:36] think currently, as you can

[45:39] see, there is. A shortfall in

[45:44] the number of officers.

[45:47] Expense number one which means

[45:49] that there are funds and that

[45:51] 5, 6, portion sworn staff that

[45:59] are projected to go. Unspent.

[46:00] Or 4 months things can change.

[46:01] Stabbing can go up. Other

[46:02] expenses can arise that fall

[46:06] within the. Crp and the

[46:06] priority spending plan that

[46:07] are aligned with that. But

[46:12] currently. That's reporting.

[46:13] There is a shortfall in the

[46:13] number of officers there. So

[46:14] projected to understand

[46:21] gotcha. I I will need to

[46:21] follow up about the exact

[46:22] numbers just because my like

[46:23] side of the envelope math

[46:24] isn't mapping. I want to make

[46:28] sure that. Does make that we

[46:34] can a report that out. I

[46:35] noticed that there is a

[46:35] discrepancy between the

[46:36] estimates in the narrative

[46:40] section in the budget table

[46:40] I'm not sure which one is the

[46:41] accurate number, but I can

[46:48] follow up with that. After the

[46:49] Specifically for expense.

[46:55] Number one. For data

[46:55] collection. Are you able to

[46:57] track the staffing levels and

[46:59] record that for the

[47:00] evaluators? They mentioned

[47:01] that for dispatch, but, you

[47:05] know, maybe over time. So that

[47:06] way. We can see if there's a

[47:06] relationship between say

[47:08] recruitment efforts and

[47:09] improved staffing like

[47:10] month-to-month, what those

[47:15] vacancies are. I'm just gonna

[47:18] repeat back to make sure I

[47:19] understand that. Ask you would

[47:23] like a month to month. Staff

[47:23] tracking for expense number

[47:28] one. We don't need it reported

[47:30] out obviously every month, but

[47:31] just to know that that data is

[47:31] being collected for the

[47:39] evaluators. And we'll also get

[47:40] ur data requests stuff in

[47:43] writing so that we can be.

[47:44] Prepared for when we do get a

[47:55] evaluator hired. To part of

[47:56] the measure includes reducing

[47:58] sexual violence and improving.

[48:01] That and reducing human

[48:03] trafficking. What peace plan

[48:04] for improving the data

[48:05] collection around these

[48:07] particular crimes, which as

[48:09] previously mentioned, the data

[48:10] collection is lacking. And I

[48:10] know that it's also very hard

[48:14] to collect. So what's the data

[48:16] collection plan and does opd

[48:17] need any technical assistance

[48:28] in this area? Just one moment.

[48:35] So the the metric planned for.

[48:40] Measuring. Reductions in

[48:43] issues of human trafficking is

[48:46] in progress. We're collecting.

[48:47] Data within the criminal

[48:48] investigation division within

[48:50] the special Victims Unit. As

[48:53] to the number of crimes that

[48:55] are connected. 2 human

[49:05] trafficking. Violent crimes.

[49:05] In previous report out to

[49:06] explain that. It's not

[49:08] something that we had done

[49:09] previously. So we

[49:12] preliminarily have. On that

[49:15] subject. We're still analyzing

[49:16] 4. How to appropriately. Look

[49:18] at a metric because we expect

[49:23] significant. Underreporting on

[49:24] issues of human trafficking.

[49:29] So we have data that our crime

[49:30] reduction teams, our advice,

[49:30] human trafficking unit, they

[49:32] do operations. Almost every

[49:36] single week. And the record

[49:37] certain metrics, they record

[49:39] the number of contacts. They

[49:40] record the number of people

[49:41] that appear to be involved

[49:46] human trafficking. Reconciling

[49:47] that with crime data and

[49:48] community date is where we're

[49:49] at right now. We're not there

[49:51] yet, but it is something I'm

[49:51] hoping to have my the next

[49:58] biannual update. Ok? So for

[50:01] expense number there are 7

[50:03] dispatcher positions funded by

[50:05] measure which I think is

[50:06] great. And I know that they

[50:07] are understaffed when a visit,

[50:08] if they said that they needed

[50:09] about 20 to make it to make

[50:14] them whole. What about

[50:15] technological improvements to

[50:16] dispatch because they also

[50:17] discussed things like still

[50:18] doing all of their scheduling

[50:19] on paper and not having enough

[50:27] monitors. It is part of the

[50:28] opd priority spending plan.

[50:31] It's just not reflected in the

[50:34] expenses so far year to date.

[50:34] It is something that I

[50:36] anticipate will be. And

[50:41] expense during. This. Call.

[50:46] This is the for your plan. For

[50:46] months and we don't. Yes, I'm

[50:49] sorry for for your plant. But

[50:50] 4 months and we don't have any

[50:53] expenses to report on that.

[50:54] Technology side within

[51:02] dispatch. And then previously,

[51:03] you've indicated that it is

[51:04] key for transparency and

[51:06] accountability to turn on the

[51:08] gps trackers in opd vehicles

[51:09] which would relate to

[51:12] strategy. Number 6. I've been

[51:12] told that this would be

[51:14] helpful for dispatch. So what

[51:15] are the prospects for this

[51:20] happening? Well, there isn't

[51:25] an expense related 2 this

[51:25] topic and technology that the

[51:31] city of Oakland already But it

[51:34] is not currently on in real

[51:36] time and it is not some of

[51:37] that is currently being

[51:37] tracks. We don't have anything

[51:41] to buy. It's a policy. But as

[51:44] it relates to the strategy

[51:44] within the cvr p are there

[51:47] plans for this no cost

[51:52] strategy? 2 to materialize.

[51:57] The police department. Want to

[51:58] plan to have the gps turned

[52:04] on. And inappropriate system

[52:05] of retention given the

[52:05] circumstances. I think that

[52:09] there's opportunity.

[52:12] Tremendously speeding up

[52:14] dispatch if they can see

[52:15] officers in real time. And I

[52:16] think there's tremendous

[52:17] safety benefits to being able

[52:20] to see officers in real time.

[52:20] So it's a policy issue that we

[52:23] need to get right. What are

[52:23] the barriers to enacting that

[52:27] policy? It is a citywide

[52:32] process and I'm not

[52:33] Negotiation for that myself.

[52:35] So I can say is it currently

[52:39] being negotiated? I believe

[52:40] that the process is under way,

[52:42] but I do not know what stage

[52:47] it is at or if it has stalled.

[52:48] Okay. And then now and expense

[52:52] number 3. I think you answered

[52:56] this. But the breakdown

[52:56] recruiting costs and

[52:58] background costs. And to

[52:59] correct that, said it's all

[52:59] going to outreach. That's all

[53:04] recruiting. Those costs are

[53:06] and that 150,000 is not

[53:08] positions. So those are not

[53:09] paying for salaries that is

[53:14] paying for. All the costs

[53:18] associated with. Outreach

[53:22] advertising, everything that

[53:23] that Backgrounder recruiting

[53:23] unit does greenback run unit

[53:27] does 2? Actively seek out

[53:28] qualified candidates, all of

[53:36] their expenses. So related to

[53:37] that. We have previously

[53:39] discussed the importance of

[53:39] both recruiting Oakland

[53:42] community members to opd as

[53:43] well as importance of

[53:45] developing a dispatch specific

[53:46] recruitment plan given that

[53:47] they have very different skill

[53:49] sets and personality types

[53:53] will recruiting Well, the

[53:54] recruiting in background unit

[53:55] be pursuing those plans. And

[53:56] is there any support needed to

[54:01] accomplish that? The recording

[54:04] in background unit is both

[54:07] doing intensive work and

[54:08] Oakland and looking more

[54:09] broadly across the Bay area

[54:11] and the state. It's a

[54:15] competitive market. They have

[54:16] to everything they can as far

[54:17] much as they can reach. We

[54:19] have multiple people loaned to

[54:20] the unit to try to help

[54:25] support. This mission. I think

[54:26] its absolutely critical to the

[54:28] future success of the police

[54:31] department. We have we must

[54:32] get 50 qualified candidates

[54:34] into each of the academy's

[54:36] that we're a lot it is major

[54:39] priority for unit knows it.

[54:39] We're trying to match that

[54:43] with budget by giving more

[54:43] dollars to that unit to be

[54:45] able to do the events. We will

[54:50] be reporting out. I think the

[54:54] rescheduled joint. Meeting

[54:57] with Spock in public safety.

[55:02] On specific strategies for

[55:03] recruiting background. What

[55:03] their what events they have

[55:04] been attending and what their

[55:06] broader strategy. Will be. And

[55:07] I believe that is coming up

[55:12] next month. But is there a

[55:13] plan that or is there a plan

[55:15] to develop a plane for both

[55:18] opened specific recruitment

[55:19] and like what? What makes open

[55:23] young people? Have more faith

[55:24] in the police and willing to

[55:24] become police because, you

[55:25] know, we want police to do a

[55:26] different has to look

[55:29] different. And specifically

[55:32] for dispatch just having done

[55:33] a fair amount of research on

[55:34] like workplace psychology

[55:35] dynamics. I think it is

[55:39] important that they have a

[55:40] distinct recruitment strategy

[55:41] probably different areas to

[55:43] target and different

[55:44] professions that would be best

[55:44] suited for dispatch versus

[55:49] patrol. Recruiting back on.

[55:54] Does have. Plan. Local and

[55:56] more broad. And I would say

[56:00] that it is uniquely different

[56:02] for sworn officers and it is

[56:03] for dispatch. You heard me

[56:04] report out earlier. We have.

[56:08] 80 people. In back grounds for

[56:10] dispatch for 13 positions. So

[56:12] we're able to find people that

[56:16] want the job for dispatch.

[56:18] It's a matter of moving

[56:18] qualified candidates through

[56:19] that process and then

[56:20] retaining them once they come

[56:25] in. For sworn police officers,

[56:27] it's a just a very competitive

[56:30] market in the Bay Area.

[56:34] Multiple other large and small

[56:35] police agencies are competing

[56:36] for the same candidates. And

[56:39] so we have to do our best to.

[56:41] The that the place that all of

[56:43] those potential officers want

[56:47] to go. I think that there are

[56:48] things that have previously

[56:50] not work in our favor that

[56:51] have come to an end. I think

[56:53] it is a difficult recruiting

[56:54] environment when you're in a

[56:54] police department that's under

[56:56] a negotiated settlement

[56:57] agreement. I think that is

[57:00] more difficult to recruit in

[57:01] that environment to gifts

[57:02] question to people as to

[57:02] whether or not they want to go

[57:03] to an agency that's under

[57:04] federal oversight that's come

[57:06] to an end. And I think that

[57:10] that will help. People being

[57:11] confident that Oakland is the

[57:17] right agency for them. Chief

[57:19] to during our community

[57:19] engagement. Sessions. We

[57:23] learned from community members

[57:25] that they were interested in

[57:26] inviting opd to their

[57:27] community events so that opd

[57:29] could table and provide

[57:34] outreach and recruitment we

[57:35] have an invitation NOVEMBER

[57:36] first in the fruit fell

[57:38] through the Unity Council.

[57:42] There will be over 150 1000

[57:45] attendees. It would be a great

[57:47] opportunity for opd to set up

[57:48] a table in and provide some

[57:51] outreach recruitment. So I

[57:55] welcome that we can connect.

[57:56] Separately to second. Sure,

[57:58] all those details. But those

[58:01] are examples you know, I think

[58:01] great opportunities for opd to

[58:03] not just recruit directly from

[58:05] the community, but to build

[58:09] within that community and when

[58:11] we help the community

[58:12] engagement session and

[58:13] approval, a lot of community

[58:15] members felt he wanted to see

[58:15] you guys at our event. So

[58:18] there's that open invitation.

[58:18] Not just in the field

[58:21] throughout Oakland. Thank Make

[58:22] sure that recruiting

[58:26] background. Received that

[58:27] perfect invitation. Yes, I can

[58:30] tell you that. I see there.

[58:32] And they are going to events

[58:32] every day. Great. That's great

[58:40] to hear. Okay. Just couple

[58:41] questions. You mentioned that

[58:42] you guys are recruiting from

[58:43] Oakland Schools for the cadet

[58:46] program. Are you getting from

[58:49] only the public schools or

[58:50] just because if they're public

[58:58] schools, they live in Oakland.

[59:01] No, we're not just seek public

[59:03] schools. We're looking for

[59:04] candidates that meet the

[59:05] criteria that are motivated to

[59:08] become police cadet. So there

[59:10] is a process to go through to

[59:14] become a police cadet. But

[59:15] we're looking more broadly we

[59:19] want to get to 18 in this

[59:21] first round. But you've seen

[59:22] in the priority spending plan.

[59:24] That number needs to go up

[59:24] significantly over the course

[59:28] of the next few years. I think

[59:30] that at least 40 so that means

[59:33] that we're going to need

[59:34] broader outreach across

[59:39] people. Young people. Coming

[59:41] to the end of high school

[59:41] beginning college so that they

[59:45] can. Work through this process

[59:47] in the police cadet program

[59:48] over the course of that time

[59:49] until they reach 21 and a

[59:52] half. And I'm sorry, 20 and a

[59:53] half and can begin police

[1:00:00] academy. Okay. So you mention

[1:00:02] in the rationale section for

[1:00:03] last paragraph, 4 expense.

[1:00:06] Number 3. Wellness contributes

[1:00:10] to attention. But there is not

[1:00:11] an expense or plan detailed in

[1:00:14] this section about wellness.

[1:00:16] One item that was discussed

[1:00:17] during the strategic planning

[1:00:18] process was officer and

[1:00:20] professional staff wellness

[1:00:21] and during visits to the

[1:00:23] Communications center staff.

[1:00:24] Sure that burnout is time that

[1:00:25] there's a staff culture issues

[1:00:26] that could be addressed

[1:00:27] investments in staff, wellness

[1:00:29] and culture. Additionally in

[1:00:32] my discussion with Barbara to

[1:00:33] sell, though, indicated that

[1:00:34] her one person department, she

[1:00:37] is the department is

[1:00:39] drastically under-funded and

[1:00:41] under-resourced. Given that

[1:00:42] attrition rate sworn officers

[1:00:44] and the difficulty in

[1:00:45] recruiting. Well, this does

[1:00:47] play significant role in

[1:00:48] maintaining staffing. Could

[1:00:49] you expand on any plans to

[1:00:57] address wellness? I think that

[1:00:59] the were in complete

[1:01:03] agreement. Wellness being

[1:01:08] connected to. And that it is a

[1:01:08] critical piece of maintaining

[1:01:10] the staff that we. Currently

[1:01:14] have providing for them so

[1:01:15] that they want to stay. I

[1:01:20] think that in. At this 0.4

[1:01:20] months into the strategy, we

[1:01:22] have been able to fund

[1:01:24] positions with General purpose

[1:01:26] Fund and we had shortfall in

[1:01:27] the dispatch center, which is

[1:01:28] the reason why you see it

[1:01:32] reflected the way that that

[1:01:34] believe that in the next

[1:01:37] fiscal year. The General

[1:01:42] Purpose Fund will. Take those

[1:01:42] 7 positions that are in the

[1:01:43] dispatch center and we'll be

[1:01:45] able to real allocate those

[1:01:47] funds into wellness and

[1:01:50] technology for the dispatcher.

[1:01:53] Gotcha. Okay. And then my last

[1:01:56] question. So if mentioned that

[1:01:57] they're getting a year free on

[1:02:00] their drones. Is it possible

[1:02:01] that opd could get your free?

[1:02:04] Is it the same vendor? I don't

[1:02:07] know if it's possible. I think

[1:02:12] that the current. Estimates

[1:02:19] for costings about 432. Right

[1:02:20] about where we were estimating

[1:02:21] that it would be in that

[1:02:22] priority spending plan. Think

[1:02:24] we estimated about 400

[1:02:28] thousands very close to that.

[1:02:29] I think it's going to come

[1:02:33] down qualified. And the demand

[1:02:36] is just a bit different for

[1:02:37] the police department. So I I

[1:02:42] don't know that. The vendor

[1:02:44] that and well, I don't know

[1:02:46] which vendor will be chosen at

[1:02:47] this point. We still to go

[1:02:52] through the process. So Aren't

[1:02:55] in contract. So I. Yes, it

[1:02:56] would be inaccurate for me to

[1:02:58] be able to tell you what that

[1:02:59] final terms, that contract

[1:03:02] will be. Can I just jump in

[1:03:04] real quick related to a

[1:03:06] question. How likely is it

[1:03:07] that Privacy Commission will

[1:03:20] approve? The drone? Apology? I

[1:03:21] will have to double check the

[1:03:24] last privacy advisory. But I

[1:03:28] think that it's very likely.

[1:03:29] That they're in support of the

[1:03:33] drone. First responder. They

[1:03:34] did. I think meet on the

[1:03:36] subject in their previous.

[1:03:37] Meeting and I don't want to

[1:03:38] speak out of turn. But I think

[1:03:39] that there is. Broader

[1:03:45] support. For this program with

[1:03:46] appropriate controls to make

[1:03:47] sure that privacy is

[1:03:53] protected. Thank you for

[1:03:54] answering the marathon

[1:03:54] questions. So any other

[1:03:55] questions move to public

[1:04:06] comment. We can move to public

[1:04:16] comment. Yes, chair. We will

[1:04:16] start with public comment in

[1:04:19] the room and I believe MR.

[1:04:20] Bolt right has public comment

[1:04:24] on this item. That you are the

[1:04:25] only person submit a speaker

[1:04:28] car. And as all has a right

[1:04:32] hand raised in zoom and MR.

[1:04:32] But right 2 minutes and I will

[1:04:44] start the clock. Know that the

[1:04:47] the police department is

[1:04:47] understaffed and they support

[1:04:48] what you're doing. I think

[1:04:52] that's a a feeling that I

[1:04:54] have. But I also see it in the

[1:04:55] comments people are making. So

[1:04:56] y'all should feel good about

[1:04:56] what you're doing and thank

[1:05:04] you. One thing that would help

[1:05:06] us appreciate the the reason

[1:05:09] for these dramatic drops crime

[1:05:11] would be to know when you've

[1:05:12] mentioned some of these, but

[1:05:13] to know what the most

[1:05:16] important things that you've

[1:05:17] done differently to accomplish

[1:05:21] these miraculous. Reductions

[1:05:26] in crime. A lot of the sayings

[1:05:27] Murders and things like that.

[1:05:28] The statistics have to be

[1:05:30] accurate. And if they're going

[1:05:30] down, what have y'all done

[1:05:37] accomplish that? And this is

[1:05:40] all happened within the last 2

[1:05:41] years. So it's as fresh enough

[1:05:43] to where we ought to have a

[1:05:43] good idea as to what's what's

[1:05:51] caused that direction. And

[1:05:55] what is being done. I didn't

[1:05:56] advocate this before, but I

[1:05:57] understand we're just not

[1:05:59] going to catch up by hiring

[1:06:01] new police. What can be done

[1:06:03] to eliminate or reduce the

[1:06:04] amount of administrative work.

[1:06:06] A few officers in the field

[1:06:09] are having put up with now,

[1:06:10] pass it on to people that

[1:06:15] don't have to sworn officers

[1:06:15] to take the load off police

[1:06:17] officers that I think that's

[1:06:18] really important. And he's the

[1:06:19] only thing we can really

[1:06:20] accomplish because there's

[1:06:22] more people that can do that.

[1:06:22] Now we can hire is his

[1:06:28] placement right now. And

[1:06:29] that's that's another Thank

[1:06:32] you. Thank you, MR. Vote

[1:06:41] right. Okay. Cherry. Next.

[1:06:41] Public speakers want to be

[1:06:49] MISS Aside of my life. All

[1:06:52] about allow you to speak. You

[1:06:56] can unmute yourself. The Clark

[1:07:01] law could be just give me one.

[1:07:04] Okay. Can begin your comments.

[1:07:05] Ok? On the subject, church

[1:07:10] translation. City has a

[1:07:11] ordinance around translation

[1:07:14] services at the city provides.

[1:07:14] I assume the police department

[1:07:17] would be inclusive and within

[1:07:19] that formula comment, Lee,

[1:07:24] only 2 languages. All. On.

[1:07:26] Come that and that Spanish and

[1:07:28] Mandarin slash Chinese.

[1:07:32] Related to usd, a cadet Ust

[1:07:35] Carly. He's an ordinance. All

[1:07:37] of the George Floyd ordinance,

[1:07:41] which does not allow to work

[1:07:43] with the Oakland Police

[1:07:45] Department. So I don't know

[1:07:48] how they able to work a deal

[1:07:49] and other little all the board

[1:07:50] meetings. I haven't seen

[1:07:53] anything that would come up

[1:07:55] usd agree to allow this could

[1:07:55] get with pull a program to

[1:08:01] happen. The the data that is

[1:08:05] quite data high allco formula.

[1:08:05] And under that formula, you

[1:08:07] don't see all crime. Did you

[1:08:10] see some crime reported? But

[1:08:13] not all. The percentage of

[1:08:15] violent offenders who do not

[1:08:18] live in Oakland. Does not

[1:08:22] allow us to deal with all

[1:08:25] potential. Big perpetrate So

[1:08:28] right now we have a notable

[1:08:29] number of violent crime being

[1:08:30] committed by people who don't

[1:08:35] live in Oakland. 49% of gun

[1:08:38] homocide again related

[1:08:40] related. That means that the

[1:08:41] ceasefire program does not

[1:08:43] deal with the other

[1:08:44] percentage, which is 51

[1:08:45] percentage of on the size

[1:08:50] created. The requirement to be

[1:08:51] a police officer. You don't

[1:08:54] have to be a citizen, but you

[1:08:55] do have to meet the

[1:08:56] requirements of being valid. A

[1:09:01] ballot her son in the city of

[1:09:02] the country. I don't know how

[1:09:04] that works because this is a

[1:09:05] sanctuary city at some point

[1:09:09] that needs to be discussed.

[1:09:10] Thank you for your comments

[1:09:13] about La Mala chair. If can

[1:09:19] just add. To MISS All of my

[1:09:21] comment about the Equal Access

[1:09:22] ordinance that we have in the

[1:09:27] city. We have ordinance that

[1:09:28] where we can translate

[1:09:31] actually into 3 languages

[1:09:40] Bieniemy Spanish Chinese.

[1:09:41] Sorry. I think I actually

[1:09:41] needed you by turning on my

[1:09:45] mic to respond yes, we do have

[1:09:48] this 3 languages and correct

[1:09:49] me if I'm wrong and I do need

[1:09:52] to follow up on this. But that

[1:09:53] I think is separate from the

[1:09:55] need for multi-lingual

[1:09:58] dispatchers because and

[1:09:58] especially have time call

[1:10:02] somebody Come in and provide

[1:10:02] translation services. They

[1:10:07] just need it be in the room.

[1:10:08] If that is inaccurate. Let me

[1:10:11] know. Thank you for your

[1:10:24] public comment. I think we can

[1:10:27] move on to Ft with our thanks

[1:10:41] to opd nbc, 2 desco. Excuse me

[1:10:42] chair. If we move on to the

[1:10:43] next item, do you want to take

[1:10:48] action? On on the report

[1:10:52] submitted by opd. Yes, thank

[1:10:53] He had a race action on this

[1:11:02] item yeah, go to. Vo to

[1:11:05] acknowledge receipt of. Okay.

[1:11:09] Too. Vote to acknowledge their

[1:11:14] receipt of fair. Measure and

[1:11:15] priority spending plan or the

[1:11:17] biannual priority spending

[1:11:18] plan update for fiscal year

[1:11:25] 26. 27. Okay. Thank you for

[1:11:27] that motion. I will take the

[1:11:33] role. Chair Thank Thanks.

[1:11:33] Chair. G#

[1:11:34] #

[1:11:40] years.

[1:11:43] Commissioner I care. Yes,

[1:11:47] thank you. Commissioner went.

[1:11:51] And Commissioner Dixon. Thank

[1:11:59] you. Motion Thank we can on

[1:12:02] before we go in. When will pt

[1:12:03] combat for the next report? We

[1:12:08] know. They're required to do

[1:12:12] by annual reports. But unless

[1:12:13] tc Jessica checks, if we have

[1:12:14] a specific concern that we

[1:12:15] would like information on can

[1:12:17] invite him back Kenya, that's

[1:12:31] that's good.

[1:12:33] Yeah, you can.

[1:12:33] You can go ahead. We collide.

[1:12:34] Okay, everybody. How's

[1:12:36] everybody doing today? Feel

[1:12:37] like I was just here with you

[1:12:43] guys. But I'm back. Thank to

[1:12:44] Felicia for reached out to us

[1:12:46] to get you guys a copy of our

[1:12:48] rfp for the implementation of

[1:12:49] valuation where we are in the

[1:12:52] process right now is paused.

[1:12:53] We have paused the process

[1:12:54] until we can incorporate your

[1:12:58] feedback suggestions I'm not

[1:12:59] going to give this group a

[1:13:04] timeline Whenever you all have

[1:13:06] a set list that you want

[1:13:06] included, we will definitely

[1:13:09] added to the document. If you

[1:13:10] want to chop it up and add it

[1:13:13] yourselves that works too. But

[1:13:15] we will definitely want to

[1:13:16] restart the process. It's in

[1:13:18] an analysis phase of the

[1:13:20] finance office that puts out

[1:13:22] keys. We are not at the top of

[1:13:24] the list. So this isn't

[1:13:25] disrupting timing necessarily,

[1:13:26] but we want to make sure we're

[1:13:29] still in the queue and not

[1:13:32] losing our spots. So we very

[1:13:33] good relationship with the

[1:13:35] analyst overlooking the rfp.

[1:13:38] So we are able and willing and

[1:13:41] excited to not only hear your

[1:13:42] recommendations, but ensure

[1:13:43] that they are incorporated

[1:13:47] into rfp document and once

[1:13:48] that happens, I would gladly

[1:13:49] come back and give a timeline

[1:13:50] of when we can expected

[1:13:52] publishing. But as you all

[1:13:53] probably can appreciate. And

[1:13:57] many of, you know, there's a

[1:13:58] lot of our of peas kind trying

[1:13:58] to get out before the end of

[1:13:59] the year. So hopefully we are

[1:14:09] one of them. Thank I

[1:14:11] appreciate that. Sincerely.

[1:14:12] It's it's very helpful,

[1:14:13] especially since, you know, we

[1:14:15] all want to see Mac or 6, even

[1:14:20] I think we'll bring. A unique

[1:14:20] perspective to how this rfp

[1:14:24] rfp can be most effective in

[1:14:27] evaluating macros work and not

[1:14:29] in a critical way. Justin, a

[1:14:31] information is power kind of

[1:14:32] wait and that's how we improve

[1:14:37] the program. We do. Like to

[1:14:39] give summary or would you

[1:14:40] prefer that we jump into

[1:14:42] questions I would for we jump

[1:14:43] into questions again. I would

[1:14:46] not have all the answers here

[1:14:47] today, but if these are to

[1:14:48] absorb and then if we could

[1:14:50] have the recommendations from

[1:14:50] the a committee submitted in

[1:14:55] writing. I threw the chair

[1:14:56] whenever you already. We will.

[1:14:58] We will not move forward until

[1:15:00] we receive your written

[1:15:01] recommendations. Well, then we

[1:15:05] will definitely fast track How

[1:15:06] would feel about getting in

[1:15:07] your notes and

[1:15:12] recommendations? 2? Well, me

[1:15:13] inflation, Kerry and we can go

[1:15:14] over it and incorporate it as

[1:15:18] needed by like. The end of the

[1:15:20] week. Is that or maybe before

[1:15:22] within one week like by end

[1:15:32] of. Monday. I think if we

[1:15:32] submit our note saying give

[1:15:34] them a comprehensive some

[1:15:35] feedback, that would

[1:15:37] definitely be helpful for them

[1:15:37] to come back from macro to

[1:15:43] come back. So we can. Spend

[1:15:49] this time wisely. Definitely.

[1:15:52] Chair. Just on the timing of

[1:15:53] that with their or their board

[1:15:54] in and using scheduled between

[1:15:57] now and end of the year. Yes,

[1:16:00] we have meeting one meeting a

[1:16:01] month. Okay. So I would I

[1:16:02] would prefer to get you this

[1:16:04] information before our next

[1:16:05] meeting. So as not to further

[1:16:13] delay this process. That work

[1:16:15] one week to send in notes and

[1:16:16] work on it and incorporating

[1:16:17] it and I can have place send

[1:16:18] it back out for us to review

[1:16:20] to make sure it's. Reflective

[1:16:23] of what you concerned about

[1:16:28] where you want an rfp. And I

[1:16:29] would be more than happy to

[1:16:30] come back during the NOVEMBER

[1:16:31] meeting with hopefully this is

[1:16:32] the date, you know, that

[1:16:34] things are happening. But

[1:16:38] again, we are. You know, we're

[1:16:39] poor holding with until we get

[1:16:43] your recommendations. Awesome.

[1:16:44] Ok? I'll open it up to the

[1:16:45] other commissioners first for

[1:16:46] their questions and comments

[1:16:51] on their feet. Think we need

[1:16:54] to that. Just go on and submit

[1:16:56] our quest, our concerns and

[1:16:56] questions so that they can be

[1:17:00] prepared. Because that. And

[1:17:01] the questions and concerns

[1:17:05] that we have. And as we are

[1:17:06] all community members,

[1:17:08] confident they would have. If

[1:17:12] they were to see the. Current

[1:17:14] draft of the scope of work. So

[1:17:16] there's some thoughts that we

[1:17:17] want you all to consider

[1:17:27] before reaches. And I will say

[1:17:28] we're we're trusting this

[1:17:28] group. We know there's

[1:17:30] expertise and we want to take

[1:17:30] that. We you know, we don't do

[1:17:33] this work by ourselves so we

[1:17:34] could come back to the drawing

[1:17:37] board. A couple times to get

[1:17:40] this right. If it means we're

[1:17:40] waiting till JANUARY, you

[1:17:41] know, that's not ideal. But it

[1:17:45] is. If that's what it takes,

[1:17:46] we want to do this the right

[1:17:49] way. We are 5 years coming up

[1:17:51] in APRIL. So we want to do

[1:17:52] things correctly. So we want

[1:17:52] to get this right with with

[1:18:06] this group. You know, I'd I'd

[1:18:09] actually rather just submit a

[1:18:09] comprehensive document to

[1:18:12] macro instead of. Pulling some

[1:18:17] things out right now. I

[1:18:18] because there are some things

[1:18:22] that. We're going to meet

[1:18:23] clarity on that. All 5 of us

[1:18:27] need to. Release it with the

[1:18:32] and then provide something.

[1:18:38] But I will Swat. Swot

[1:18:42] analysis. Yeah, Just put that

[1:18:49] out in atmosphere. Well, Mike

[1:18:49] Metro will have fun with you

[1:18:54] on It will have fun with the

[1:19:05] evaluation partners that I

[1:19:05] what they submit to, you know,

[1:19:08] writing will help you along

[1:19:09] the that way. When we come

[1:19:12] back to you don't seem like

[1:19:13] Can I just be transparent?

[1:19:16] We're not beating you up. Are

[1:19:19] trying talk down to you here

[1:19:20] are concerned. So that's why

[1:19:21] you see in this be very quiet

[1:19:24] because we do have questions.

[1:19:26] But maybe you are. You have

[1:19:27] the answers. So we'll put it

[1:19:29] in, right. And so when you do

[1:19:31] come back, we can get right

[1:19:32] into business. What we need

[1:19:34] from you. What you expect from

[1:19:36] because we want you to be

[1:19:42] successful. If nothing else.

[1:19:43] When my coaches says we want

[1:19:45] to clean And that's what all

[1:19:49] this is about. Us winning. So

[1:19:49] we're going to win. So

[1:19:51] minutes. Write this down. And

[1:19:52] that's why we're not talking

[1:19:54] to you directly today because

[1:19:57] you know got big bows and

[1:20:00] we'll speak are true to you.

[1:20:01] So we want to make sure that

[1:20:01] we get our understanding of

[1:20:03] what you're really saying,

[1:20:06] what you really want. And then

[1:20:07] we'll come back and we'll

[1:20:10] hopefully we'll have thing.

[1:20:11] You just have to come back one

[1:20:11] time and we can agree, agree

[1:20:14] on something. That you like

[1:20:17] and make it happen for you. We

[1:20:19] really want to use this group

[1:20:22] to help inform this it's it's

[1:20:26] great to have a landing place

[1:20:27] for macro. So with as this

[1:20:31] process goes, yeah, we're with

[1:20:31] you lock you know. Yeah, one

[1:20:35] time the great but if it takes

[1:20:37] more, that's just what it

[1:20:38] takes. And we want to get this

[1:20:39] right. I can't underscore that

[1:20:40] enough. And it has to be

[1:20:43] independent. Can't be Elliott.

[1:20:47] Put finger on the scale. We

[1:20:48] want this to be all above

[1:20:49] board. Cause the amazing work

[1:20:50] that our responders are doing

[1:20:51] day in and day out. Needs to

[1:20:54] truly be recognized and I can

[1:20:55] screen from the mountain top,

[1:20:56] but it be nice. Somebody else

[1:21:00] does it too. I like to do it

[1:21:01] once I go for my right along

[1:21:04] that I was put on blast last

[1:21:04] meeting that I had not gone

[1:21:07] on. Missed what commissioner,

[1:21:11] what I've just asked my

[1:21:11] amazing administrative

[1:21:12] assistant to prioritize

[1:21:13] getting you scheduled as long

[1:21:16] as well as MR. Vote right

[1:21:19] before in the next couple past

[1:21:20] Dixon, we love to get you on

[1:21:21] there as well. And I believe

[1:21:22] both of you you must just seem

[1:21:25] to hit my b#

[1:21:25] #

[1:21:27] that like a or

[1:21:31] I would really love. To spin

[1:21:34] whole shift. With them. I want

[1:21:40] to hold Schiff. I I would sir,

[1:21:41] I would say we've never had

[1:21:42] somebody except, you know,

[1:21:44] early on, spend a day with the

[1:21:45] team. There's a lot of value

[1:21:47] in our for our Friday logs.

[1:21:49] But, you know, if you have the

[1:21:50] time and you want to get into

[1:21:53] it with them, we're happy to

[1:21:54] have you been hunkered down

[1:21:56] with team for a day. The only

[1:21:57] thing that would make that

[1:22:00] difficult is staffing and our

[1:22:06] fleet, cars go down I'm so.

[1:22:07] Available. I will wait for you

[1:22:14] to call. Maybe do way for him

[1:22:17] to call reach out about this

[1:22:21] picture graphic going I will

[1:22:22] say as much as I appreciate

[1:22:25] not wanting to Put Elliott on

[1:22:29] place, so to speak I do think

[1:22:30] we have here in front of us if

[1:22:34] we have questions, we can

[1:22:36] assume positive intent around

[1:22:38] that and and get some answers

[1:22:39] which MAY clarify some of the

[1:22:47] notes that we provide them.

[1:22:49] Just a few questions in terms

[1:22:52] of clarification. There's a

[1:22:58] lot of action that macro wants

[1:22:59] to take the evaluator, the

[1:23:02] independent evaluator. It's

[1:23:06] not very clear to me. This

[1:23:07] time and maybe you can provide

[1:23:13] it what type of internal

[1:23:14] assessments have already been

[1:23:18] conducted. What are some of

[1:23:22] the results that have come up?

[1:23:23] And I'm going to try to leave

[1:23:24] it at those 2 look, has I'll

[1:23:30] keep going. I would say that.

[1:23:31] The internal assessments or

[1:23:35] more of our annual output

[1:23:36] statistics. Understanding the

[1:23:36] change from year to year with

[1:23:40] the growth of our staff,

[1:23:41] increased collaboration with

[1:23:45] the Dispatch partners and

[1:23:46] eventually we want to get

[1:23:49] better at tracking the Last

[1:23:50] Mile resource connection.

[1:23:51] That's been a weakness of

[1:23:52] ours. Back to the swot

[1:23:54] analysis. But it's something

[1:23:55] that we're improving on. And

[1:23:56] we've made strides this year.

[1:23:59] But to really understand that

[1:24:00] last mile connection, when you

[1:24:02] go a step further. So trying

[1:24:03] to figure out how do we do

[1:24:05] that without adding another

[1:24:06] data collection for him to our

[1:24:14] team. We are able to macro

[1:24:14] just joined a national in this

[1:24:15] edition called The 12 Million

[1:24:17] Cause Initiative to divert

[1:24:20] 12 million calls off of the

[1:24:21] 9-1-1 system as a part of

[1:24:23] that, we've had to look at are

[1:24:24] diversion rate. How many

[1:24:26] causes opd sent over and how

[1:24:28] many cause has the phone line

[1:24:31] received? I can tell you right

[1:24:32] now per the six-month stop

[1:24:34] data that opd released about a

[1:24:37] month ago. Couple weeks.

[1:24:40] Macro, they have said 800

[1:24:42] Costa macro and they responded

[1:24:43] to 700 community care taking

[1:24:44] calls. So we see in real time

[1:24:45] there feeding us more than

[1:24:48] they're going on. And that's a

[1:24:52] huge milestone. Unfortunately,

[1:24:52] they only publish that data

[1:24:53] once or twice a year so we

[1:24:56] can't see it more gradually.

[1:24:57] Muffley would be cool. But,

[1:24:59] you know, they got a lot going

[1:25:01] on. So it's it's nice to see

[1:25:03] that we are absorbing the

[1:25:04] right calls that were going on

[1:25:05] the right cause and the cause

[1:25:08] of their left. The community

[1:25:08] caretaking cause they're left

[1:25:09] to go on. The vast majority

[1:25:13] over 80% r 51 50's. So it

[1:25:14] really I when I look at that

[1:25:15] is the bigger picture. There's

[1:25:21] different. Data points that

[1:25:22] indicate our effectiveness.

[1:25:23] But it is still not a complete

[1:25:24] story. And that last mile

[1:25:33] connection as well as data

[1:25:34] sharing and data alignment

[1:25:34] between the fire and police

[1:25:35] department, I think can help.

[1:25:36] And it's something that's

[1:25:40] ongoing and we are. Planning

[1:25:41] the meeting between the Chiefs

[1:25:43] a very soon to try to make

[1:25:43] sure we're still on the right

[1:25:45] path with that. And I got to

[1:25:47] give a a lot of love to rpd

[1:25:50] and our fire dispatchers who

[1:25:51] have their gracious with their

[1:25:53] time to talk things through

[1:25:55] and every year we've seen

[1:25:56] improvement every year. We see

[1:26:03] more calls. Through OCTOBER.

[1:26:03] Opd is already sent, has more

[1:26:04] calls this year than they did

[1:26:07] for all of last year. And that

[1:26:09] is remarkable. And that's a

[1:26:10] lot about our teams

[1:26:10] capability. Our team being

[1:26:12] better and more efficient. But

[1:26:15] it's also about the system

[1:26:17] working and yeah, a lot of

[1:26:18] left to their dispatch. An in

[1:26:19] our dispatch for collaborating

[1:26:20] and making sure we're getting

[1:26:22] the appropriate calls. Thank

[1:26:28] you so much something I did

[1:26:31] say Swat. I would love to see.

[1:26:32] It says something along the

[1:26:35] lines of a swot analysis. And

[1:26:40] what are. Your measurable

[1:26:43] outcomes like what is success?

[1:26:44] I'm about to just throw it out

[1:26:45] at you. What is success? What

[1:26:47] are the measurable outcomes

[1:26:53] and what type of

[1:26:53] accountability and operational

[1:26:56] effectiveness. And the

[1:26:58] measurable safety outcomes.

[1:27:02] Are you all going to draw?

[1:27:04] Your purpose and presence back

[1:27:10] to it in. How do you? That was

[1:27:13] a it's a lot about as to the

[1:27:14] answer that as best I can. Do

[1:27:16] one at a to with stands out

[1:27:17] for you. Well, I will say

[1:27:26] that. When we look at our the

[1:27:27] original goals of macro are

[1:27:29] very vague. And I believe that

[1:27:29] was just kind of by design.

[1:27:32] They were not clear and what

[1:27:32] we were developing. So the 3

[1:27:36] original goals were decrease.

[1:27:37] Number of negative

[1:27:38] interactions between opd and

[1:27:41] someone in need. Diver calls

[1:27:45] away from the 9-1-1 system and

[1:27:46] then create a separate system

[1:27:47] that individuals could call.

[1:27:49] So we have those hold on. Hold

[1:27:52] on. I even see that in this.

[1:27:52] That's in our that's our the

[1:27:53] original, the original charter

[1:27:56] goals of Metro. Still your

[1:27:57] goals. They they have actually

[1:27:58] evolved from there because

[1:28:01] they're so vague. So right

[1:28:02] now, we really just kind of

[1:28:03] based on our output model,

[1:28:04] many calls, are we responding

[1:28:06] to one of those cap, the costs

[1:28:07] and how many are we getting

[1:28:10] from the police and dispatch

[1:28:11] center? So it is condensed a

[1:28:12] little bit. It is not is kind

[1:28:16] of fluffy as it used to be

[1:28:17] I've a lot of arguments our

[1:28:19] first year that we were doing

[1:28:21] that. But there was just

[1:28:22] nothing really attached to it.

[1:28:23] And I think that's a challenge

[1:28:23] throughout our first response

[1:28:26] system. How do you measure

[1:28:27] effectiveness? Thankfully in

[1:28:27] the fire department, there are

[1:28:30] a lot of systems in place to

[1:28:31] ensure that the firefighters

[1:28:32] going to calls and being there

[1:28:33] being PRESIDENT. We do have

[1:28:37] some of those same. Challenges

[1:28:37] because we do have

[1:28:39] requirements. You have to be

[1:28:40] out the door in 2 minutes. But

[1:28:42] what we do try to look at is

[1:28:43] the output of the team. The

[1:28:44] number of teams were putting

[1:28:45] out there and most

[1:28:45] importantly, how many

[1:28:48] dispatchers are responding to

[1:28:48] historically macro when we

[1:28:52] started a lot of on views. So

[1:28:53] the last 4 years we have been

[1:28:54] shifting more to dispatch

[1:28:56] responses and so far for this

[1:28:59] year. 85% of our calls are

[1:28:59] dispatched. So that's a huge

[1:29:03] win for us. I love that. He

[1:29:04] joined because a huge win for

[1:29:05] you is a huge win for Oakland.

[1:29:08] Absolutely. I want to see what

[1:29:10] you're measuring it against.

[1:29:13] What are your goals? That's

[1:29:17] why as are those years still

[1:29:18] your goals? It one of the

[1:29:20] biggest challenges we have is

[1:29:20] we measure our output. It's

[1:29:23] always just one side of the

[1:29:24] coin. We do not have complete

[1:29:25] data in real-time. We have to

[1:29:29] wait until we get opd stop

[1:29:31] data and then the fire

[1:29:32] department as a whole run. So

[1:29:33] many calls it. It's tough to

[1:29:36] stand out against that last

[1:29:38] year the department did 77,000

[1:29:39] total responses. Macro

[1:29:41] accounted for 7,000. So about

[1:29:42] 10% of the fire department and

[1:29:43] I could even argue in a

[1:29:46] perfect world. We could get up

[1:29:49] to 15 or so percent. Probably

[1:29:52] just what I see with our

[1:29:53] current staffing. That's still

[1:29:56] a lot of runs and and I'm

[1:29:58] going to just make was

[1:29:58] plugged. You guys. The stress

[1:30:01] is felt on the fire dispatch

[1:30:02] center. They are the ones that

[1:30:03] are are holding on the brunt

[1:30:06] of our work. So it's felt by

[1:30:09] them. We are projected to hit

[1:30:11] 9,000 plus total incidents

[1:30:14] this year with over 7,000

[1:30:15] being dispatched. Both highs

[1:30:19] for us and I can easily see a

[1:30:20] universe in 2027 where we're

[1:30:22] talking about 10,000 calls.

[1:30:23] 10,000 instance the year

[1:30:27] excuse me, but again, not

[1:30:30] looking at comparable programs

[1:30:32] because there aren't many that

[1:30:33] have been around this long and

[1:30:34] San Francisco. It's it's

[1:30:38] different. It's larger. We are

[1:30:40] in national groups. We joined

[1:30:42] the Harvard Community of

[1:30:44] practice this and why Policing

[1:30:46] project Group and others to

[1:30:47] try to find cops on the

[1:30:52] national scene that make us.

[1:30:54] Validate what we're saying.

[1:30:56] Atlanta has been a good cop

[1:30:56] historically about the, you

[1:30:57] know, the size that we are,

[1:30:58] but they're not in a fire

[1:31:00] department. So if outside the

[1:31:02] system, so we're really trying

[1:31:02] to find like-minded partners.

[1:31:03] We can work with share data

[1:31:06] and learn from. I will say a

[1:31:06] lot of the solutions we're

[1:31:10] seeing in the space are less

[1:31:11] focused right now on the

[1:31:13] alternative response teams.

[1:31:14] We're seeing a lot of dispatch

[1:31:16] focus solutions, which is

[1:31:26] hopefully can can look into. I

[1:31:29] need to know what success

[1:31:32] looks like to you. I hear you

[1:31:37] numbers. I see the report. I.

[1:31:40] The words are really pretty. I

[1:31:45] just don't know. Why. You're

[1:31:51] here. How come and the

[1:31:51] significance? Not that. I

[1:31:54] don't know what you do. I know

[1:31:57] that. But when I look at the

[1:31:58] report, it's comparing these

[1:32:00] and I'm hearing the numbers.

[1:32:03] What is success? What is like?

[1:32:08] This is this is Kling means us

[1:32:09] in this is what gearing

[1:32:10] towards. And we want to make

[1:32:16] better. I'm not clear there's

[1:32:17] a term that you all have in

[1:32:21] this proposal. Ethnographic

[1:32:24] research. I know what it

[1:32:30] means. I'm curious as to if

[1:32:30] there's a parameter behind how

[1:32:35] you want. You're rfp to look

[1:32:39] in terms of. Who does this

[1:32:41] because there can be somebody

[1:32:42] from midtown. Middle of

[1:32:46] country says we can do it and

[1:32:47] they have no idea about the

[1:32:49] uniqueness of our special

[1:32:50] city. And I would love to see

[1:32:52] some details in times of the

[1:32:55] standards that you all have

[1:32:56] for who you want to come in to

[1:32:59] do this evaluation as well. I

[1:33:00] without getting too deep. I

[1:33:01] think that's one of those ones

[1:33:02] where we could address a

[1:33:04] little deeper in writing. We

[1:33:06] want the leaders in this

[1:33:08] space. There's a couple major

[1:33:09] groups that do these

[1:33:11] evaluations nationally and I

[1:33:13] would if perfect world, I want

[1:33:15] the best. And one of the

[1:33:16] leaders historically has been

[1:33:19] the University of Chicago,

[1:33:20] their urban health labs.

[1:33:21] They've actually coming, I

[1:33:21] think, presented to this group

[1:33:22] a couple years ago or a year

[1:33:26] ago. Seems like a lifetime ago

[1:33:27] the beauty about what we've

[1:33:29] been able to accomplish is

[1:33:30] that these groups are actually

[1:33:33] reaching out. They want attach

[1:33:34] themselves to the local fire

[1:33:37] department macro program. Then

[1:33:38] that's how we're in this

[1:33:38] community of practice and

[1:33:39] Harvard. That's how are the

[1:33:42] leading West Coast city on

[1:33:42] 21 million 12 million cause

[1:33:46] initiative. So that it really

[1:33:48] just kind of speaks to what

[1:33:50] we've been able to collect and

[1:33:52] show what I get into these

[1:33:53] national conversations. They

[1:33:55] don't even have out of the

[1:33:56] data that we've that we ask

[1:33:58] our teams to collect. And we

[1:33:59] have made that a priority

[1:34:02] since day one. So really what

[1:34:02] I look for this it and let

[1:34:04] even go back a little further

[1:34:08] success to me is every call.

[1:34:08] Every response. And I'm not

[1:34:10] going to give it a 10,000

[1:34:11] foot. A real great. This

[1:34:11] whenever they show up to the

[1:34:13] call. They are the right team

[1:34:14] because if they weren't the

[1:34:15] right team, they wouldn't be

[1:34:18] going. So the fact that we

[1:34:19] don't even really know the

[1:34:22] ceiling of demand. It's it's

[1:34:24] amazing that I can look back

[1:34:25] act SEPTEMBER and say we did.

[1:34:26] 25 calls. 25 dispatch

[1:34:29] responses a day. Now I'm

[1:34:31] looking potentially 30 is the

[1:34:33] floor. But every few months

[1:34:33] there's a new floor. So it's

[1:34:37] it's growing rapidly involving

[1:34:38] in a way that we're doing a

[1:34:40] great job keeping track. And

[1:34:42] we have historically. But when

[1:34:43] I what people that are going

[1:34:45] to come in and pick it apart.

[1:34:46] Look at it is if they would

[1:34:49] any other place, you know,

[1:34:50] whoever's got to do New York's

[1:34:51] evaluation. I want them to an

[1:34:51] Oakland evaluation because

[1:34:54] it's probably going to be. The

[1:34:56] best of the best. And we want

[1:34:57] that because we are confident

[1:34:58] in the model we're putting out

[1:35:01] there and you know, as I'm

[1:35:02] often told, they're talking

[1:35:03] about us and looms, don't even

[1:35:05] know about because of the way

[1:35:06] that our responders show up in

[1:35:10] the work that they do because

[1:35:11] it just demonstrates that not

[1:35:12] every call needs an emergency

[1:35:16] response. And and when I can

[1:35:18] look back and what we did the

[1:35:19] first year, 400 dispatch

[1:35:20] responses. And now I'm looking

[1:35:24] at 7,000. That's not even to 5

[1:35:27] years. Who knows how much more

[1:35:27] is out there. But I can

[1:35:28] promise this group in any one

[1:35:30] of the city of Oakland that

[1:35:31] our medical responders will be

[1:35:34] there every day trying. I

[1:35:37] didn't see that in here as

[1:35:39] that. And that's a Jones

[1:35:40] exclusive. We have to write

[1:35:42] this kind of with a broader if

[1:35:44] we make it to of it gets

[1:35:48] pulled down. So it's, you

[1:35:49] know, analysts is reviewing

[1:35:50] this a bunch of other people.

[1:35:50] I imagine that attorneys got a

[1:35:53] look at it. They're going to

[1:35:54] want it. Probably a very, you

[1:35:59] know, you know, plain bread

[1:36:00] thing. But there's this isn't

[1:36:02] the only evaluation. I would

[1:36:02] also like to say this should

[1:36:04] just be the first and there

[1:36:06] should be a consistent plan

[1:36:09] across all departments. But

[1:36:12] and macro specifically are are

[1:36:13] our program every few years.

[1:36:15] There should be an evaluation

[1:36:16] going. And because that's the

[1:36:16] only way you can stay current.

[1:36:17] You can stay flexible. You can

[1:36:19] stay ahead of whatever is

[1:36:20] coming. And I know that MAY

[1:36:22] not be a financially prudent

[1:36:24] decision, but as long as we

[1:36:24] have this committee here,

[1:36:26] helping us fund for these

[1:36:27] important activities that

[1:36:28] benefit the program in the

[1:36:29] city, I'll be here presenting

[1:36:37] and pulling for it. If I could

[1:36:37] just add to that. That's a

[1:36:39] great question. Commissioner

[1:36:41] win. I think when you think

[1:36:44] about success, that is where

[1:36:46] that's what we're shooting

[1:36:47] for. We're trying to figure

[1:36:48] out what the Des finishing

[1:36:49] that success is for Oakland,

[1:36:52] macro throughout the history

[1:36:54] of macro, most people

[1:36:54] throughout the city,

[1:36:56] especially people who are

[1:36:59] vested seeing what macros

[1:37:00] going to come once a macro to

[1:37:01] be a duplicate of some other

[1:37:03] place in our country. And that

[1:37:05] just doesn't work Oakland

[1:37:06] because opened such an unique

[1:37:07] place. So we want to make sure

[1:37:10] that as we build that out,

[1:37:10] that's why we're reaching out

[1:37:11] to the commissioners into the

[1:37:14] community to say what do we

[1:37:15] want a macro team to be? You

[1:37:16] know, what lane do we want

[1:37:19] makua live in because

[1:37:20] historically macro has been

[1:37:23] asked to do 1000 different

[1:37:25] things and there's real. No

[1:37:26] real lane that macro lives in.

[1:37:28] So we've been trying to create

[1:37:29] that name over the last couple

[1:37:33] of years so that we can have

[1:37:34] data and we can have a model

[1:37:34] that you could take somewhere

[1:37:37] else in the country and

[1:37:38] duplicate. But right now, if

[1:37:41] we were so spread out, we're

[1:37:41] really trying them that lined

[1:37:43] up so that the city

[1:37:44] understands this is what your

[1:37:46] macro team can be counted on

[1:37:47] to do. One thing that Elliott

[1:37:51] didn't mention is that he's

[1:37:52] putting together a convening

[1:37:55] of other alternative. Response

[1:37:57] teams from around the country.

[1:37:57] You know, we want America to

[1:38:00] be the best of the best. And

[1:38:01] we think that success leaves

[1:38:02] clues. So we want to talk to

[1:38:05] all these other. You know,

[1:38:06] alternative delivery group

[1:38:10] Cincy take pieces from. All

[1:38:10] these different successful

[1:38:12] teams and make our macro team

[1:38:14] what works best for Oakland.

[1:38:15] So that's also coming down the

[1:38:21] Pike. Thank you both. I

[1:38:21] believe that it's the best

[1:38:23] thing on her tonight. Yeah.

[1:38:28] What you just said, chief.

[1:38:28] Because if you gone be the

[1:38:29] best, you got to go research

[1:38:30] with the best and then make

[1:38:33] ours the best. That's what opd

[1:38:35] deal with cease-fire. And

[1:38:38] that's why they will tap. And

[1:38:39] I believe with your leadership

[1:38:42] and your leadership does Mike

[1:38:45] Macro can go to a place where

[1:38:46] people become a test and I get

[1:38:47] to go around the country. When

[1:38:47] I go to my meetings going.

[1:38:49] Yeah, we have Beth. I love

[1:38:52] bragging like that. Believe we

[1:38:55] have the best. But with to

[1:38:56] doing that, I will support

[1:39:00] that part of it. 100%.

[1:39:01] Speaking to who I need to

[1:39:02] speak to, to make that happen

[1:39:05] because if we can do that and

[1:39:06] get my I think they just sit

[1:39:08] at Mackle in the lane that we

[1:39:11] know exactly what they're

[1:39:12] doing. This is exactly what we

[1:39:15] want them to do. No, we don't

[1:39:16] do that. You know, cease-fire.

[1:39:18] We're not saying that's the

[1:39:20] only being that opd does.

[1:39:21] We're not saying that. We're

[1:39:24] saying this is one to that

[1:39:25] city to that. We know that

[1:39:27] data driven that works. If you

[1:39:28] give us a data driven, micro

[1:39:32] macro. Trucks and this is what

[1:39:34] they do, then I can defend

[1:39:35] know this is what we do. You

[1:39:36] ask them do something outside

[1:39:37] that I think that's what we're

[1:39:37] trying to get to. What do you

[1:39:39] want to do? When do you want

[1:39:41] to do it? How you want to do

[1:39:42] it and they let us know and

[1:39:46] how does it improve our

[1:39:48] community? Is it? You know, we

[1:39:50] stop it. Every person on the

[1:39:51] corner or is it that we wait

[1:39:51] for a call? We need to know

[1:39:53] those things. As I listened to

[1:39:54] much, if you know, as I

[1:39:56] listened, Todd talk them out

[1:39:59] at you what I want to hear.

[1:40:00] But tonight you see it what I

[1:40:02] want to hear the whole time.

[1:40:03] What are we going to do to

[1:40:06] make the best? How we got a

[1:40:07] great the best and then we can

[1:40:08] get where we need to be. Thank

[1:40:16] you very much. Absolutely.

[1:40:17] Cool. Second, all of that is a

[1:40:20] great questions. Great points

[1:40:23] in the interest of everybody's

[1:40:26] time. I'll just since will be,

[1:40:27] you know, doing this is the

[1:40:30] iterative process. Outside of

[1:40:34] this Saturday's There's just a

[1:40:35] couple things that I'll

[1:40:36] highlight so that way people

[1:40:37] can know what I've been

[1:40:38] thinking about the rfp and

[1:40:39] would be surprised when there

[1:40:43] are these edited. In It does

[1:40:44] say logic model or theory of

[1:40:45] change. I do think it would be

[1:40:48] helpful to include both. Are

[1:40:48] different rules, different

[1:40:53] purposes. In scope be conduct

[1:40:53] 20 key informant interviews

[1:40:56] over 12 months. Do you think

[1:40:59] that it would be important to

[1:41:01] I just that to a shorter time

[1:41:02] frame because if data

[1:41:03] collection is going for a full

[1:41:04] year, there's not time for

[1:41:04] analysis and then writing the

[1:41:08] actual report in my experience

[1:41:11] in doing valuations. But the

[1:41:12] data collection period ideally

[1:41:14] is is one year. But that's one

[1:41:16] of their success this

[1:41:21] evaluations. And so shortening

[1:41:22] it to 9 months. And so they

[1:41:23] few months for bribing and

[1:41:25] data collection would probably

[1:41:25] be beneficial, especially

[1:41:26] since all the data not

[1:41:29] respected. One note on that, I

[1:41:31] think some of the time frames

[1:41:32] were recommended to us by the

[1:41:34] analysis group to to leave a

[1:41:36] breath. But I think if we we

[1:41:37] put a shorter time frame in

[1:41:40] the recommendation, if they

[1:41:42] dispute that again for the,

[1:41:43] you know, the previous

[1:41:43] reasons. Think we should try,

[1:41:46] I'm in agreement. And it's

[1:41:47] going to be open competitive

[1:41:48] bid anyways at the home. Their

[1:41:52] input well appreciated.

[1:41:53] Instructive. Absolutely.

[1:42:03] Absolutely. C In the last

[1:42:05] paragraph. It states that the

[1:42:06] final report will be provided

[1:42:08] 3 months after the Post study

[1:42:09] period. This would require a

[1:42:14] 15 month time The one year and

[1:42:15] given are time constraints. I

[1:42:16] think pushing tighter timeline

[1:42:17] of the important there as

[1:42:23] well. And scope be part I

[1:42:24] would suggest, including the

[1:42:27] commission and for perhaps

[1:42:28] former members of the advisory

[1:42:30] board in some of those k eyes.

[1:42:31] As for the historical

[1:42:37] knowledge. Would you be open

[1:42:38] to including the commission in

[1:42:39] the development of the

[1:42:39] research questions?

[1:42:45] Absolutely. And then fact, I

[1:42:48] would love if you all to total

[1:42:49] lead on the just handed me the

[1:42:54] questions that will be fine.

[1:42:55] Billy evaluators for recommend

[1:42:56] the adoption of a specific

[1:43:00] model. I don't believe I don't

[1:43:00] believe that that was

[1:43:02] something that was more of how

[1:43:03] did we do with the model we

[1:43:06] implemented? But I. You know,

[1:43:06] I think that that there's room

[1:43:08] for that MAY be in there, but

[1:43:10] I don't know that totally

[1:43:15] sure. Gotcha. And then what

[1:43:16] are you open to developing an

[1:43:20] rfp for strategic planning by

[1:43:22] the end of quarter one in 2027

[1:43:23] just to ensure the process

[1:43:24] starts right after the

[1:43:29] evaluation. Do you need 2028?

[1:43:33] 2027 Okay. If you cause if you

[1:43:34] developed yearly and we all

[1:43:35] know how long to that at all.

[1:43:38] I think that's that's fine.

[1:43:40] And then just a bit of

[1:43:41] background before the

[1:43:42] Behavioral Health Services Act

[1:43:43] was enacted this year, there

[1:43:45] was the Mental Health Services

[1:43:49] Act and the image is safe and

[1:43:50] innovation projects.

[1:43:51] Innovation projects have

[1:43:53] yearly evaluations and

[1:43:54] technical assistance to ensure

[1:43:55] that newer projects similar to

[1:43:58] macro are on the right track

[1:43:59] and can make timely

[1:44:01] adjustments to their program

[1:44:02] improve efficacy, awareness,

[1:44:02] cetera. I will say awareness

[1:44:03] is always an uphill battle for

[1:44:07] new programs. Are you open to?

[1:44:09] You did say that you're open

[1:44:09] to connecting yearly outcome

[1:44:12] or yearly evaluations. Could

[1:44:14] those be outcome valuations?

[1:44:15] And assuming that the funding

[1:44:21] is available? Yearly

[1:44:21] evaluations after this

[1:44:24] strategic planning process. If

[1:44:25] the funding is available,

[1:44:30] we're open to it. And is there

[1:44:30] any way that the commission

[1:44:31] can support the macro program

[1:44:33] that side of what we've

[1:44:35] already discussed? I think if

[1:44:36] our focus right now is on the

[1:44:38] evaluation side of it, that's

[1:44:39] the best support we could have

[1:44:40] as we get into the new year

[1:44:41] and into the winter. We would

[1:44:42] love your support on some of

[1:44:44] our volunteer and supplies

[1:44:45] donation opportunities. We

[1:44:48] need to get the word out. Of

[1:44:48] course, just overall awareness

[1:44:50] continuing to tell your

[1:44:52] networks and and bringing us

[1:44:54] here to talk. It does a lot so

[1:44:56] we would love to work with the

[1:45:00] commission so, yeah, there's

[1:45:01] could think of variety of

[1:45:02] things as we get into the

[1:45:04] holiday season and that the

[1:45:05] weather we were asking, we're

[1:45:06] talking everybody. So there

[1:45:09] will be some opportunity. You

[1:45:17] questions. I actually have a

[1:45:20] question it's a question you

[1:45:25] and I have regarding

[1:45:25] implementation evaluation and

[1:45:31] that is outcomes. Yes. And

[1:45:32] armed. And did I just hear you

[1:45:33] say that the outcomes

[1:45:34] evaluation will come after

[1:45:37] this tragic to choose plan or

[1:45:40] is are we? Adding any out

[1:45:45] comes to this particular? Rfp.

[1:45:47] I personally love to outcomes

[1:45:48] incorporated into this

[1:45:50] implementation evaluation just

[1:45:51] because since most of it is

[1:45:52] going to be qualitative since

[1:45:55] the date already exists. I

[1:45:57] think it's pretty seamless to

[1:45:58] incorporate questions about

[1:45:59] outcomes and awareness into

[1:46:05] those protocols. Then from

[1:46:06] there a strategic planning

[1:46:09] process. And then from their

[1:46:11] yearly outcome evaluations.

[1:46:17] We're all for that. That

[1:46:17] whatever you lies recommended.

[1:46:18] And we added, We're Florida.

[1:46:19] That's part of those

[1:46:20] recommendations. They will be

[1:46:24] in the Arctic. Ok? I just want

[1:46:25] to make we put that out there

[1:46:27] on the table and it will be

[1:46:31] included those those proposed

[1:46:34] outcomes and of course, of the

[1:46:35] discussion and dialogue about

[1:46:36] that yet be in writing as

[1:46:38] well. Yes, thank you. That's a

[1:46:39] good reminder. So for next

[1:46:42] steps. The other commissioners

[1:46:45] will send in their thoughts on

[1:46:47] on the rfp. I will compile

[1:46:51] them bring that over to la. We

[1:46:55] can have a discussion. Next

[1:46:55] week. If you have

[1:47:01] availability. And then from

[1:47:02] there, we'll create another

[1:47:03] rfp. And depending on the

[1:47:07] timing of it. It can go out to

[1:47:08] there. Commissioners for

[1:47:11] asynchronous review. Prior to

[1:47:12] our next meeting and then

[1:47:13] hopefully we can approve it

[1:47:15] and get it. A pretty to going

[1:47:16] through the contracting

[1:47:19] process. Buyer NOVEMBER

[1:47:20] meeting, which we MAY also be

[1:47:26] moving. Depending on

[1:47:26] scheduling said no to Monday

[1:47:27] after Thanksgiving. But that's

[1:47:28] a whole other issue that we

[1:47:32] can get into. One request As

[1:47:33] you read the document,

[1:47:35] displease track changes so we

[1:47:36] can to see that changes.

[1:47:37] Clearly that wasn't it. Yeah,

[1:47:42] definitely. I'm sorry. I have

[1:47:46] one more question chair chief,

[1:47:47] did you want to add anything

[1:47:49] about that? We just discussed

[1:47:49] in terms outcomes about the

[1:47:52] process. Thank you. I wanted

[1:47:58] to make sure. Okay. So we can

[1:47:59] move on to public comment on

[1:48:07] this item. Sir, you in there.

[1:48:07] Yes, I did see one were hand

[1:48:12] raised. And also commissioner

[1:48:13] to know if you have any

[1:48:17] comment on the. Implementation

[1:48:21] evaluation discussion. I seen

[1:48:21] Commissioner Chuck Lovell came

[1:48:27] off mute. Sweet to been asking

[1:48:28] wonderful questions, which

[1:48:29] leaves me with no questions

[1:48:30] and they and about that? So

[1:48:34] thank you. Thank you,

[1:48:38] commissioner, to And I will

[1:48:51] start my clot. I want to

[1:48:58] speak. It's all about you can

[1:49:03] be in your comments. Yes,

[1:49:05] inquiring. If evaluation.

[1:49:08] We'll look at the impact of

[1:49:12] the fact that macro does not

[1:49:14] have the legal authority to

[1:49:17] commit individuals involuntary

[1:49:18] want to handle 51 50 mental

[1:49:22] health holes. If that is

[1:49:23] necessary, they have to call

[1:49:24] the Oakland police officer to

[1:49:26] the scene in order to do that.

[1:49:27] If they were given the

[1:49:30] authority. They could at

[1:49:30] Quicken that that quickly on

[1:49:34] this. Also because the on on

[1:49:37] civilians. Situations that

[1:49:41] they are involved with often

[1:49:41] involve imminent danger

[1:49:46] violence. Will evaluation.

[1:49:48] Look at the incidents which

[1:49:50] they had to deal with those

[1:49:53] situations that work threat to

[1:49:55] bought online hole to the

[1:50:00] macro employees. Could they

[1:50:01] also be a point of the

[1:50:06] evaluation? That looks at? The

[1:50:09] service is a resource is

[1:50:12] needed. An honor to follow-up.

[1:50:13] With the involvement with

[1:50:14] individuals. Some people need

[1:50:19] housing. Some people need

[1:50:20] medical assistance. Some

[1:50:22] people need to have drug

[1:50:23] assessment besides mental

[1:50:27] health issues. And lastly. I

[1:50:30] went on right a little, but it

[1:50:34] was years ago and everybody I

[1:50:35] encountered was a homeless

[1:50:38] individual. So could they be a

[1:50:43] breakdown in the van valuation

[1:50:45] of individuals? You certain

[1:50:46] drug involvement,

[1:50:49] homelessness. What of the

[1:50:52] classification? A subgroup?

[1:50:53] That can determine how many

[1:50:57] groups, one vote. Lastly, will

[1:50:58] they effort to move in the

[1:51:02] valuation? Currently micro can

[1:51:04] only intervene with people who

[1:51:08] on the street. Will they move

[1:51:11] towards going into residential

[1:51:12] housing commercial buildings

[1:51:18] to do intervention. Thank you

[1:51:19] for your public comment. Those

[1:51:20] are all great questions and

[1:51:21] we'll definitely incorporate

[1:51:28] them into our meeting. Do we

[1:51:32] have any other public comment?

[1:51:39] It's likely MR. Vote right?

[1:51:39] Politics. David Boatright

[1:51:44] district 4. Some real good

[1:51:45] comments by the commission.

[1:51:48] Deny that to you or eminently

[1:51:51] capable. Giving guidance to

[1:51:52] macro as to what this

[1:51:58] implementation. Incorporates.

[1:52:00] And I think MR. Elliott's been

[1:52:03] in charge of macro for 4 years

[1:52:05] now. I think he's eminently

[1:52:06] capable of putting together

[1:52:07] the study or the evaluation

[1:52:11] himself or with his staff. And

[1:52:12] I don't think should require

[1:52:13] 15 much to do. It should be

[1:52:18] something done and a few

[1:52:18] months 6 at the most. Less

[1:52:23] than that is really possible.

[1:52:24] Good luck in the guidance you

[1:52:29] provide with evaluation. Thank

[1:52:47] you. Absolutely feared public

[1:52:55] comment. So I move for us too.

[1:52:57] I could a five-minute break.

[1:53:00] Do we need to make motion on

[1:53:02] any of this, though? There's

[1:53:03] nothing really to vote on it.

[1:53:11] We just kind of see move to

[1:53:12] acknowledge receipt of the

[1:53:14] macro evaluation. Our fee. A

[1:53:25] second. Okay. I'll call the

[1:53:30] roll. Chair I. Vice Chair Vice

[1:53:33] Chair Gutierrez. Hi.

[1:53:39] Commissioner to come by. Thank

[1:53:44] you, Commissioner win. And

[1:53:46] Commissioner Dixon. All right.

[1:53:48] Thank you. Motion passed.

[1:53:52] Great. Let's take. 8 minutes.

[1:53:54] We'll come back at 8 o'clock

[1:53:54] and move through the rest of

[1:54:09] our.

[1:54:34] Can. I thank you. I know.

[2:05:50] Okay. So bringing back to the

[2:05:53] meeting. And next up, we have

[2:06:00] a couple. Informational items

[2:06:05] case? Yes, exactly. So first

[2:06:06] up is the discussion for

[2:06:07] recommendations to city

[2:06:07] council at the Joint

[2:06:09] Commission meeting. So the

[2:06:13] Joint Commission meeting

[2:06:13] inflation, please feel free to

[2:06:14] chime in and add to this

[2:06:20] where. Our commission party

[2:06:25] dpp and reason yet the 3

[2:06:26] departments also present their

[2:06:27] updates. And then there are

[2:06:28] other commission meeting other

[2:06:28] commissions attending as well,

[2:06:31] which ones are those? It's the

[2:06:32] police commission and

[2:06:33] community Policing advisory

[2:06:38] board. Yes, thank you. So we

[2:06:39] have the opportunity to make

[2:06:40] recommendations to city

[2:06:42] Council obviously in the

[2:06:47] context of our work here. I

[2:06:48] think that we should discuss

[2:06:48] those recommendations. One of

[2:06:52] the things that Carrie and I

[2:06:53] have been discussing offline

[2:06:56] is. Basically kind lobbying

[2:06:59] the city, too, ensure that the

[2:07:01] budget is reflective of some

[2:07:03] of the smaller more community

[2:07:04] focused initiatives in the

[2:07:08] severe p. Like the training

[2:07:09] from the fire Department for

[2:07:14] the community you know, I

[2:07:16] don't have it all. My head.

[2:07:18] But of those small little

[2:07:20] initiatives that are smaller,

[2:07:21] high impact that we have

[2:07:22] included in the cvr p we would

[2:07:25] like to make sure that those

[2:07:26] are prioritize. And like I

[2:07:28] know that we are only a

[2:07:29] quarter into cvr be. But with

[2:07:31] how slow the city moves and

[2:07:32] how fast the budgeting process

[2:07:34] seems to move. I think it's

[2:07:38] important that we. Talk about

[2:07:39] to city council and make sure

[2:07:41] that they no our opinion on

[2:07:47] it. At least. And like with of

[2:07:48] getting like a mental health

[2:07:51] training, it's one of the

[2:07:52] things that we have discussed

[2:07:54] at length in the strategic

[2:07:56] planning process, getting job

[2:08:00] description. Finalized and

[2:08:01] approved and move to the city.

[2:08:01] Processes like that could take

[2:08:05] up to a year. Like who knows

[2:08:05] with the hiring process is

[2:08:06] going to look like that could

[2:08:08] also take a very long time.

[2:08:10] And so making sure that it's

[2:08:13] prioritized early on in the

[2:08:14] budget. Is important to making

[2:08:15] sure that at the end of this

[2:08:16] four-year process, we can

[2:08:18] report back significant

[2:08:20] progress in all areas of the

[2:08:22] cvr p and not a more narrow

[2:08:27] focused like. Carrie and I

[2:08:28] push back on the initial

[2:08:31] budget from a lefty that did

[2:08:32] not include the money for the

[2:08:34] youth programs. And we got 20

[2:08:38] grand included there for those

[2:08:38] programs. And that obviously

[2:08:41] makes a huge difference to

[2:08:42] them. But like a drop in the

[2:08:44] bucket when it comes to

[2:08:45] overtime. So I think that

[2:08:46] there's a way that we do both

[2:08:47] at the same time and have

[2:08:50] people feel these initiatives

[2:08:53] in their lives and not just,

[2:08:54] you know, another measure that

[2:08:55] they're paying taxes on, that

[2:08:56] they don't really feel the

[2:08:57] impact not getting their

[2:08:58] response times I think we can

[2:09:04] do both. So I would love to

[2:09:06] hear your guys this opinion on

[2:09:07] that as well as any other

[2:09:08] recommendations you would like

[2:09:08] to see made to city council as

[2:09:13] well. I would like to

[2:09:21] recommend and I can think of a

[2:09:22] more polished way to say this.

[2:09:26] But I'm taking around the idea

[2:09:26] Transparency around the

[2:09:32] budget. Using the example that

[2:09:38] we experience if around

[2:09:38] vehicle, is it 3 million

[2:09:40] dollars in overtime that was

[2:09:44] allocated. That was brand new

[2:09:45] to us. Like we had no idea

[2:09:46] until they just kind of slip.

[2:09:47] Didn't. And so I think that we

[2:09:52] should. Certainly lift that

[2:09:54] the Joint Commission meeting.

[2:10:02] To the city. To promote more

[2:10:03] trust live in Oakland and use

[2:10:05] that as an example. So just

[2:10:09] transparency around budgeting,

[2:10:10] making sure that, you know, if

[2:10:13] that if this is a need. And

[2:10:15] this is a way if the presented

[2:10:16] to like it's an absolute need,

[2:10:19] the city decided to take. But

[2:10:19] that's a need that needs to be

[2:10:23] communicated us ahead of time

[2:10:25] because we had several public

[2:10:29] meetings about the budget. The

[2:10:32] plan and the spending plan

[2:10:33] that was never discuss to the

[2:10:34] So I'd like to make a

[2:10:35] recommendation for us to for

[2:10:39] the City Council and city

[2:10:40] Oakland to, you know, make

[2:10:41] sure that there's transparency

[2:10:41] ahead of time. It comes to

[2:10:53] budgets. I would with that.

[2:10:53] You can think about it just

[2:10:56] didn't work, too. You need

[2:10:57] some time. That was just the

[2:10:57] first thing that kind of

[2:11:08] popped for me. I agree that we

[2:11:09] start off with that part from

[2:11:10] the transparency. Of the

[2:11:18] budget. But when we say over

[2:11:19] time and things like that, it

[2:11:22] seems accusatory. We don't

[2:11:23] want to be accusatory. Want to

[2:11:27] say. We noticed some things

[2:11:27] have been put on the budget at

[2:11:31] the end. And we didn't get a

[2:11:33] chance respond to a

[2:11:34] politically because we didn't

[2:11:35] know about to give it to us at

[2:11:36] the last minute. So can you be

[2:11:40] more transparent? We know that

[2:11:43] you're we know that. You can

[2:11:45] give us this. Tell us that

[2:11:46] with 3 million over time. I've

[2:11:47] arguing that what we're saying

[2:11:49] is we didn't know. You know,

[2:11:54] and sometimes. Dealing in that

[2:11:59] area. I found out that I had

[2:12:01] to learn how to even from

[2:12:04] y'all, how Kapur modeling with

[2:12:06] too little bit so that we

[2:12:09] don't be accusatory. You more

[2:12:10] like a this would happen. And

[2:12:14] then will it? The public do

[2:12:18] yet? Y'all didn't That's how I

[2:12:19] work that because I'm on your

[2:12:22] side about that. Don't tell me

[2:12:24] anything at the last minute.

[2:12:24] Then I have to look at it and

[2:12:25] not be upset. That's just the

[2:12:28] one thing I want it. Agree

[2:12:29] with you on Want to make sure

[2:12:30] we work that right because it

[2:12:32] is going to the full board,

[2:12:34] you know, and we MAY want

[2:12:36] something we really want. And

[2:12:38] we don't want to be that

[2:12:39] because I've been in that

[2:12:42] share with That guy's just a

[2:12:43] j#

[2:12:43] #

[2:12:45] . You know, and I don't

[2:12:45] want you all the fallen to

[2:12:46] that point. I don't mind to

[2:12:47] that. I pass on to say what I

[2:12:50] want to say. But I don't want

[2:12:53] fall in that because you

[2:12:53] you'll be doing this work a

[2:12:56] lot longer than I will. And so

[2:12:59] make sure you win on that. And

[2:13:01] then my thing I want to add on

[2:13:04] is I'm tired of the excuses

[2:13:05] and see this a yard correct my

[2:13:07] language. I'm tired excuses

[2:13:09] about the numbers of police

[2:13:09] officers. I'm just I'm I'm fed

[2:13:14] up. I'm ready to lead a board

[2:13:15] and go get some signs of

[2:13:18] started complaining every day.

[2:13:19] Because this isn't making

[2:13:22] sense to me. Even if you only

[2:13:28] last for. Ask you what I know,

[2:13:29] all police officers don't

[2:13:29] retire to the last week of the

[2:13:33] year. So they can get the

[2:13:33] highest numbers so they can

[2:13:36] all the time was much money

[2:13:37] and then they still haven't

[2:13:39] asked members questions. Asked

[2:13:40] how many people are in classic

[2:13:42] and how many people, how many

[2:13:43] people be have a classic

[2:13:45] purrs. That means guys, that 3

[2:13:47] of 50 kept asking it because

[2:13:51] they're going to retire. If

[2:13:52] they were, reached the highest

[2:13:54] ranking highest thing and

[2:13:54] they're like, hey, why most

[2:13:55] sticking around? I can make

[2:13:58] more money sitting at home.

[2:13:58] Retire and not have a heart

[2:14:02] attack on the job. So now

[2:14:02] we're talking about guys and

[2:14:05] even sooner or later. So you

[2:14:09] talk about the 17 now they say

[2:14:11] a MARCH bill. Have they are 43

[2:14:12] but guard last 3 and only been

[2:14:15] in there for a week. So we

[2:14:17] have to start, you know, tell

[2:14:21] them to know. Can we get some

[2:14:22] more police officers? I'm not

[2:14:22] saying police make a

[2:14:26] difference, but once again far

[2:14:30] to Marseilles, 1800 Of the

[2:14:34] cities our size 15 to 1200

[2:14:36] police officers. When I'm

[2:14:37] surprised, can I be real

[2:14:40] surprised they let us off the

[2:14:41] court. I'm surprised let us

[2:14:46] off. I'm shocked. I don't

[2:14:47] think we never going to get

[2:14:48] off until we got to 1200

[2:14:49] officers like since It when

[2:14:54] they finally got off. But

[2:14:55] remember since Natty, we know

[2:14:55] after us and off the floors

[2:14:56] because they say we don't put

[2:14:57] the 1200 offices here. And

[2:14:58] then when I do all the

[2:15:01] community stuff. Now offer

[2:15:02] off, but we still don't have

[2:15:04] what. The police officers,

[2:15:07] which police officers, more

[2:15:08] police officer prevent burnout

[2:15:12] stress. And working too long.

[2:15:14] I hear you saying you'd like

[2:15:17] to emphasize MAY be in the

[2:15:19] valuation of successful police

[2:15:19] departments to implement some

[2:15:23] effective strategies. Good

[2:15:25] words to bring more people in.

[2:15:28] Thank you to bring more people

[2:15:32] I think that's a great point.

[2:15:33] And yeah, I agree that a study

[2:15:34] or an evaluation to do that

[2:15:37] would be important, especially

[2:15:38] cents in our discussion with

[2:15:40] the seated esco. We didn't

[2:15:44] really get a specific answer

[2:15:44] around Oakland, specific

[2:15:45] recruiting plants. Like I

[2:15:46] think Oakland residents have a

[2:15:48] unique relationship with

[2:15:49] police and granted every city

[2:15:50] has a unique relationship with

[2:15:55] with its community. But given

[2:15:56] the reputation of federal

[2:15:57] oversight, I do think that

[2:15:59] there needs to be a specific

[2:16:00] strategy around recruiting

[2:16:06] Oakland residents. Recruiting

[2:16:09] retaining perhaps even prison

[2:16:11] team. Transparency along with

[2:16:16] it. Pastor Dixon was saying

[2:16:17] like how many people are often

[2:16:20] industrial. On injury or admin

[2:16:24] leave. We don't to know for

[2:16:25] what we just need to know how

[2:16:28] many active officers we have.

[2:16:29] Yeah, because those people on

[2:16:31] leave for still being counted.

[2:16:40] As active officer. You wanted

[2:16:45] to tax me that she a u n. Here

[2:16:46] you go, everybody. I'm here.

[2:16:47] Thank you so much for all the

[2:16:49] good idea so far and I'm sorry

[2:16:50] chair once a MISS The middle

[2:16:51] bit of the beginning. When

[2:16:53] you're speaking about some

[2:16:56] ideas for the recommendations,

[2:16:57] process. Can you repeat real

[2:16:58] quick and then they want to

[2:17:00] chime in? Yeah, I was talking

[2:17:04] about how it would be. Helpful

[2:17:05] if we could recommend to city

[2:17:06] council that in the next to

[2:17:09] your budgeting cycle that they

[2:17:10] prioritize some of the lower

[2:17:13] budget. High-impact projects

[2:17:14] that community members will

[2:17:15] really feel in their

[2:17:16] day-to-day lives and in the

[2:17:17] quality of the services that

[2:17:21] they're being provided yeah,

[2:17:23] that was a general gist. And

[2:17:25] then what is recommendation?

[2:17:32] Yeah, just won it name that

[2:17:32] measure it. And yes, you see

[2:17:33] when we made recommendations

[2:17:36] to city council, it was a

[2:17:37] small number of

[2:17:38] recommendations. And usually

[2:17:44] it was very for lack of a

[2:17:45] better word. We rode out an

[2:17:48] ordinance. We prepared surge

[2:17:51] and so I would just encourage

[2:17:54] us to choose one, maybe

[2:17:55] recommendations that we would

[2:17:55] like to centered this

[2:17:56] particular city Council

[2:18:00] meeting. And bright it will

[2:18:04] propose a So that we can

[2:18:04] answer questions and City

[2:18:07] Council of the school suggest

[2:18:09] and they could very concrete.

[2:18:11] I think if we came to them

[2:18:12] with 10 different ideas for

[2:18:13] things they would like to get

[2:18:15] done going to night. That's

[2:18:17] great. We have lots of ideas

[2:18:18] to and I don't know that any

[2:18:19] of them are going to get done.

[2:18:26] So this is our first

[2:18:27] opportunity of many great that

[2:18:27] the actual measure does not

[2:18:30] say that. We have to wait for

[2:18:30] a city council meeting to make

[2:18:31] recommendations to city

[2:18:36] Council. If we just. Organized

[2:18:39] around one key piece. Then we

[2:18:43] can continue to build over Now

[2:18:43] which you continue to have

[2:18:44] more recommendations over time

[2:18:49] and what I ate a hearing chair

[2:18:50] or want U.S. Objections that

[2:18:50] it's a little bit of a catch.

[2:18:52] All rated sake. Okay. We want

[2:18:55] to increase city council

[2:18:56] paradise and then it budget

[2:18:56] cycle. The kinds of things

[2:18:58] that community and we want it.

[2:19:00] I think that could work as a

[2:19:02] recommendation because it's a

[2:19:02] little bit of umbrella

[2:19:03] recommendation. We just need

[2:19:05] to write out specifically the

[2:19:06] pieces and what's important to

[2:19:15] me, it is. The needs ideas.

[2:19:17] The committee members had that

[2:19:18] we could not including the

[2:19:19] community violence reduction

[2:19:20] plan because the measure space

[2:19:20] face exactly what the plan

[2:19:22] needs to cover. And those

[2:19:23] ideas were outside of the

[2:19:29] scope of the plan. Happy to

[2:19:31] support in any way win 2

[2:19:33] charity in in reviewing the

[2:19:34] rate And so I want to share,

[2:19:38] thank you. I really appreciate

[2:19:39] your institutional knowledge

[2:19:49] guidance on this thank you.

[2:19:50] And yes, it is definitely

[2:19:53] important that we condensed

[2:19:53] very actionable straight

[2:19:56] forward recommendations. I

[2:19:57] think there's obviously one

[2:19:59] around budget. And it sounds

[2:20:02] like there's one about

[2:20:02] recruiting and retention

[2:20:08] within opd. Specifically with

[2:20:09] Oakland residents. I think we

[2:20:10] can given that we are only a

[2:20:14] quarter into the cvr p. We

[2:20:17] obviously don't have a lot of

[2:20:19] data to referred to for the

[2:20:20] specific recommendations, but

[2:20:23] we can incorporate broader

[2:20:24] best practice research. And I

[2:20:25] think it's also kind of a gift

[2:20:27] in this timeline of like we

[2:20:28] don't have to have it all back

[2:20:30] to put like it. I mean, it'll

[2:20:32] be backed up by its face.

[2:20:33] Solidity and these

[2:20:34] recommendations to make sure

[2:20:37] that and stays on their radar.

[2:20:38] So it sounds to me and

[2:20:42] obviously we will draft and

[2:20:43] refined this and send it out

[2:20:44] to all of you for asynchronous

[2:20:46] review so that nothing about

[2:20:48] us is being recommended

[2:20:53] without And we've got the

[2:20:53] transparency around the

[2:20:54] budget. I think that that.

[2:20:59] Lynx in with. Prioritizing

[2:21:00] those small budget.

[2:21:02] High-impact projects likes

[2:21:03] this wasn't a transparent

[2:21:04] process. And then opportunity

[2:21:05] kind of got yanked back at the

[2:21:08] last minute. For all of

[2:21:11] things. So got the

[2:21:14] transparency and budget and

[2:21:18] small budget projects.

[2:21:19] Secondly, we've got looking at

[2:21:20] opd recruitment and retention

[2:21:24] and really pushing on more

[2:21:26] innovative strategies. I

[2:21:26] understand they have look

[2:21:28] statewide nationwide, et

[2:21:29] cetera. Everybody has a

[2:21:32] shortage of cops. One of the

[2:21:33] few professions that are

[2:21:34] hiring across the board. And

[2:21:41] so. I do think that. Even with

[2:21:42] those challenges, it's

[2:21:43] important to lift up the

[2:21:44] importance can police force

[2:21:45] looking like the community

[2:21:53] that it polices? And then? And

[2:21:55] I agree that we can also

[2:21:57] uplift those needs that did

[2:21:58] not make it into the sea drp

[2:22:00] and encourage them to

[2:22:01] prioritize funding for that in

[2:22:04] the next two-year budget cycle

[2:22:05] to get 3 areas. But fairly

[2:22:09] distinct. Recommendations so

[2:22:13] far. Every single to some

[2:22:14] wordsmith thing. So as to not

[2:22:22] sound accusatory. The arcing.

[2:22:23] It is the nature of oversight

[2:22:25] that it's somewhat

[2:22:25] confrontational for

[2:22:29] adversarial, I guess. How do

[2:22:31] we feel about those 3 areas

[2:22:36] broadly? Chair? I was I was

[2:22:37] just sitting over here

[2:22:43] thinking. And we MAY have to.

[2:22:43] Right because we don't have

[2:22:48] enough time to it. Discuss it.

[2:22:49] And then send email saying we

[2:22:50] agree to those things, but we

[2:22:53] should have 5 things and then

[2:22:56] we can narrow down to 2 or 3,

[2:22:58] but there should be 5 things

[2:23:03] that we as a group and that's

[2:23:05] just how I work things. 5

[2:23:06] things we should be able to

[2:23:09] agree We agree number one, our

[2:23:14] college system areas friend.

[2:23:15] That we agree on is the budget

[2:23:16] transparency. So we know

[2:23:17] that's going to be in there

[2:23:22] right? Our former chair said

[2:23:24] we should just have 2 items. I

[2:23:28] can understand that I think we

[2:23:33] could push 3 and not be. We

[2:23:34] got all these ideas. And, you

[2:23:35] we give you 3 and so down on

[2:23:38] it. So maybe if everybody send

[2:23:41] in one and you know, you do

[2:23:42] your bright work with you,

[2:23:46] Stephen. We come down to what

[2:23:48] we Tuesday and then we can all

[2:23:49] agree and stay on them. We all

[2:23:50] stand flat footed. This is

[2:23:52] what we. We think it should

[2:23:55] be. But we know number one.

[2:23:56] And I won't let that goes to

[2:23:59] transparency of the budget. I

[2:24:00] want I want to know every dime

[2:24:03] isn't every nickel is so that

[2:24:04] we can do what's right. And

[2:24:06] that's all I'm saying. If I if

[2:24:07] I made myself clear enough,

[2:24:09] I'm not trying to have 10

[2:24:14] things. I-15 things that even.

[2:24:15] 5 sophisticated But we can get

[2:24:16] 3 basic things we can do the

[2:24:19] rest of the work where. Right

[2:24:21] and keeps him stuff from

[2:24:21] because the first time we say

[2:24:26] no. Everybody's come time

[2:24:26] eating, like will y you no,

[2:24:31] because you want to with.

[2:24:33] Yeah, I so. If I want to make

[2:24:35] sure that all of those

[2:24:36] elements are in there and in

[2:24:36] drafting the recommendations

[2:24:40] for you all to review. And, of

[2:24:40] course, please send any other

[2:24:41] information that like pops up

[2:24:44] in your head, feel like need

[2:24:48] this let me know, I think

[2:24:50] these are all fairly related.

[2:24:51] Like, for example, the

[2:24:52] transparency around the budget

[2:24:53] is directly related to the

[2:24:54] ability to do those small

[2:24:56] budget. High-impact projects

[2:24:59] that can be folded into one. I

[2:25:00] think we can keep it to 2 or

[2:25:03] 3. While incorporating

[2:25:04] elements of everything that's

[2:25:10] been discussed. Thank Make

[2:25:13] couple more recommendations.

[2:25:16] So once we agree on those 2 or

[2:25:20] I think it's ok to a child's

[2:25:21] to representatives from c Pap

[2:25:22] and the police commission to

[2:25:24] see if any of them would like

[2:25:25] to support our recommendations

[2:25:26] and the feel-like to

[2:25:27] supporting of their creations

[2:25:30] as well. This way we can show

[2:25:34] up to city Council. You know,

[2:25:36] line and perhaps that some the

[2:25:38] commissions to Cape, we don't

[2:25:39] agree and you'll have separate

[2:25:40] commendations, of course, is

[2:25:41] we haven't had the separate

[2:25:42] purposes, there's some overlap

[2:25:43] space with the commute that.

[2:25:49] And I like idea Agreeing right

[2:25:50] now on set of recommendations

[2:25:51] and then maybe coming down.

[2:25:59] Witnesses say. Okay, yeah, I

[2:26:02] like the idea of conferring

[2:26:03] with the other commission so

[2:26:06] we can make sure. Were in

[2:26:10] alignment can offer support.

[2:26:12] Also at that, we should all be

[2:26:13] inviting people who would be

[2:26:17] in support and willing to give

[2:26:17] public comment on

[2:26:18] recommendations. Every

[2:26:19] measuring and coalition to

[2:26:22] kind of save the date. And

[2:26:22] obviously will be in

[2:26:25] communication with them. To,

[2:26:26] you know, invite them to speak

[2:26:27] in support of our

[2:26:28] recommendations. Should they

[2:26:30] feel inclined to do so? Okay.

[2:26:35] So just to reiterate back.

[2:26:36] We're looking at transparency

[2:26:39] around the budget.

[2:26:40] Prioritizing small budget,

[2:26:45] high-impact projects. Looking

[2:26:48] opd recruitment and retention

[2:26:48] specifically around in

[2:26:49] Oakland, specific recruitment

[2:26:50] strategy. I think there's

[2:26:52] probably a lot of the best

[2:26:52] practice research that we can

[2:26:57] pull up around that as well.

[2:27:00] Uplifting the needs of. The

[2:27:01] community that did not make it

[2:27:09] into the year. P. The cvr p.

[2:27:09] Those the needs that didn't

[2:27:10] make it in like prevention.

[2:27:15] It's not a current priority of

[2:27:16] like Department violence

[2:27:17] prevention. But we heard a lot

[2:27:18] from the community that they

[2:27:20] want to see more preventative

[2:27:21] efforts. And while that's not

[2:27:25] under our 2 section, it's

[2:27:25] something to lift up to incur

[2:27:26] some tough and elsewhere in

[2:27:31] the general fund. I think

[2:27:32] those are very, very strong

[2:27:38] components o p d. Prevention.

[2:27:44] Show us the money. Okay, cool.

[2:27:50] Then I think we can move to

[2:27:51] public comment on this item

[2:27:52] before we move on to our last

[2:28:02] informational item. One hand

[2:28:05] raised in missed the boat

[2:28:06] right as a comment as well.

[2:28:09] Follow MISTER Boat Rights

[2:28:10] comments will move on to set

[2:28:19] up a lot Johnson. They Ve Ry

[2:28:20] District Did we MISS Item c 5

[2:28:25] c? I didn't hear me. MAY have

[2:28:33] not heard that. I didn't. I

[2:28:35] looked at that one from last

[2:28:36] month in this one. And there's

[2:28:37] been some changes. But the

[2:28:38] total is the same. And I

[2:28:40] thought you were talking about

[2:28:40] cut and money out of the

[2:28:41] budget. I didn't know you were

[2:28:44] just kind of move it around

[2:28:45] different places. Might we

[2:28:45] were some discussions

[2:28:47] sometimes don't know what. Why

[2:28:48] are you talking about that

[2:28:50] subject? Has a budget. Was

[2:28:51] passed in JULY late JUNE a

[2:28:54] year. Why did they come up? I

[2:28:58] don't understand. So Ops Park

[2:29:00] has its own administrative

[2:29:01] budget right? And we have to

[2:29:03] decide how to spend those

[2:29:08] funds. In the budget process.

[2:29:11] They allocated the 3%. They

[2:29:13] did not allocate specifically

[2:29:15] beyond a couple positions like

[2:29:16] partially funding felicia's

[2:29:16] position and funding a program

[2:29:18] analyst and then the audit

[2:29:23] process stuff. Isil accounted

[2:29:24] for in the budget and then

[2:29:25] left over. We have to decide

[2:29:25] what to do with it. That's

[2:29:29] just fine. Tuning yes. But the

[2:29:33] total and that's already set.

[2:29:35] Am I correct in this this

[2:29:36] meeting? You know, we're just

[2:29:37] talking about with the joint

[2:29:38] meeting with the city council

[2:29:42] was with the sheep, have euro

[2:29:44] group and opc and the council

[2:29:47] right? Yes. And that's

[2:29:48] scheduled and canceled twice

[2:29:53] already, which the new date.

[2:29:54] Yeah. The meeting is NOVEMBER.

[2:29:55] 30th. We need to finalize our

[2:29:59] recommendations by the 6.

[2:29:59] Okay. That meeting, though, is

[2:30:00] on the 30th of NOVEMBER

[2:30:03] NOVEMBER. I know I'm also

[2:30:05] irritated by that. Police are

[2:30:06] trying to keep it on a date is

[2:30:11] good. Got about it. The date

[2:30:12] has been rescheduled due to

[2:30:13] variety different reasons. So

[2:30:16] it was never act this most

[2:30:19] recent time. I guess it

[2:30:19] council, but it and it was

[2:30:23] rescheduled the first time. It

[2:30:23] is due to a variety of

[2:30:26] different factors. Scheduling

[2:30:31] conflicts. Okay. 3rd, Time's a

[2:30:32] charm. Yes. 3rd time to time

[2:30:33] term because the meeting will

[2:30:36] happen on NOVEMBER. 30th what

[2:30:37] brought this on? I saw it.

[2:30:39] Said, wow, this is really

[2:30:40] unusual to have all these

[2:30:41] groups to do the same thing to

[2:30:41] me the same time, what what

[2:30:47] brought it on? Is actually

[2:30:47] required to measure. And in

[2:30:49] that there's a joint meeting

[2:30:50] that takes place with of those

[2:30:54] particular organization. Yes,

[2:30:54] specifically the city Council

[2:30:57] in Ops pot going says another

[2:30:58] public safety commissions. And

[2:30:59] we have determined that the

[2:31:00] community policing advisory

[2:31:01] board and the police

[2:31:03] commissioner to other public

[2:31:05] safety. What about City

[2:31:08] Council public Safety

[2:31:09] Committee with the council

[2:31:10] members from the Public Public

[2:31:11] Safety Committee will be on

[2:31:11] the council crisis, which

[2:31:17] folk? Yeah, sure. Thank you.

[2:31:22] Okay. So. Going back a bit.

[2:31:24] I'm sorry. And before we move

[2:31:26] on this rep oppose it. Missed

[2:31:26] month. Well, the ball has

[2:31:41] Thank you. Iran raised.

[2:31:43] This

[2:31:44] all of all. You can begin your

[2:31:46] comments. Ok? You don't have

[2:31:59] up. You know, clock Okay. I'm

[2:31:59] starting it from the

[2:32:06] beginning. Why does you it?

[2:32:07] Wait a minute. Wait a could to

[2:32:13] please have started to But a

[2:32:13] decade to plea. Okay. Just a

[2:32:19] about for some reason. Has a

[2:32:20] mind of its own. So we started

[2:32:34] again.

[2:32:36] And in some reason

[2:32:38] starts at one 57. But and you

[2:32:40] had go comments. Yes, please,

[2:32:44] let me start I need to make a

[2:32:45] correction. Some comments were

[2:32:46] made by the end the nsa. We're

[2:32:49] not out of the nsa. Judge

[2:32:53] Orrick said after 23 years of

[2:32:56] the the city unable to their

[2:32:57] offices comply with

[2:32:59] eliminating racial profiling

[2:33:00] and excessive force. It was

[2:33:02] time for the city to take it

[2:33:03] over and he gave data that

[2:33:07] support it, that there was

[2:33:09] still disproportionately high

[2:33:10] number of African Americans

[2:33:12] who being stopped by the

[2:33:13] police disproportionately high

[2:33:15] number of black police offices

[2:33:17] who will be unfairly

[2:33:19] discipline and unfairly lack

[2:33:23] of promotion. Having said

[2:33:24] that, any reports that it

[2:33:27] should be recommended. Any

[2:33:31] reports related to policing.

[2:33:35] Measure in anything nice to

[2:33:36] have race. Demographics

[2:33:37] included in reports if race is

[2:33:43] a part of the. Reporting the

[2:33:44] cease-fire, I'm not

[2:33:46] understanding with the funding

[2:33:48] comes flow and what are you

[2:33:51] going to be recommending aloun

[2:33:52] stipends of financial

[2:33:53] incentives would seize 5, 5,

[2:33:57] $100 per month. There's also

[2:34:00] something called lifetime

[2:34:01] fellowship pilot. That also

[2:34:02] incentives of $1000 monthly to

[2:34:06] participation in Seas. 5. It's

[2:34:07] very important that people

[2:34:09] understand 2 points to cease

[2:34:10] fire. One point calls for

[2:34:13] people to voluntarily submit

[2:34:14] to trying to come out of

[2:34:17] crime. The other point

[2:34:19] involves the police, the

[2:34:20] thirtysomething offices going

[2:34:22] people who will not

[2:34:25] participate. And we don't have

[2:34:28] that discussion. Any programs

[2:34:30] that you hope some would

[2:34:32] advocate for services and

[2:34:33] resources around seaside human

[2:34:35] trafficking. Girl, the deal

[2:34:37] with mental health services,

[2:34:39] drug treatment, anger

[2:34:41] management, job training

[2:34:42] housing because the funding is

[2:34:45] not there. Currently. Thank

[2:34:50] you, MISS A That public

[2:34:50] comment on this. Can I ask a

[2:34:53] question? Can I comment on

[2:34:56] that? Alright. And I'm glad to

[2:34:59] comment. First all, the chairs

[2:35:01] at this said, ok we can

[2:35:02] respond to public comment

[2:35:04] stuff for clarification. Yeah.

[2:35:05] That's when we get some

[2:35:09] clarification first of all.

[2:35:12] You're absolutely correct. A

[2:35:13] cease-fire is 2 different

[2:35:14] parts is a law enforcement

[2:35:18] part. News. Community part in

[2:35:20] it. The second part that I

[2:35:23] believe if I heard I might

[2:35:24] hurt wrong, I'm sure you will

[2:35:29] correct me. They do offer

[2:35:30] siphons in grants for those

[2:35:33] that takes services. Let me

[2:35:34] clarify that up. Real quickly

[2:35:36] and clarified apart. No one in

[2:35:44] cease-fire. The message is.

[2:35:45] Even if you don't take

[2:35:47] service, stop shooting.

[2:35:49] There's no coming after you

[2:35:51] foot because you didn't take

[2:35:52] service. That's no such thing

[2:35:53] that has never happened. I

[2:35:55] will fight against that. That

[2:35:58] has never happened. You don't

[2:35:59] have to take a service, but

[2:36:01] they will ask you to stop

[2:36:02] shooting. Now, those who

[2:36:04] continue to carry a gun and

[2:36:04] continue to shoot those

[2:36:07] groups. The police. Opd will

[2:36:11] come after those groups that

[2:36:14] they have documented

[2:36:14] scientifically evidence that

[2:36:15] continue shooting them in

[2:36:16] their group and then they will

[2:36:17] go after group of those guys

[2:36:19] that continue shooting.

[2:36:20] There's no such thing as if

[2:36:23] you don't take service. Did

[2:36:23] police is going rescue? No

[2:36:26] such thing. Because we have a

[2:36:28] lot of guys come in and they

[2:36:31] say, hey, I got a job, ok,

[2:36:32] just stop shooting. That's the

[2:36:34] whole key. Whether you take

[2:36:35] service is not the whole key

[2:36:36] is for you to stop shooting.

[2:36:40] So I want to make that part

[2:36:42] clear. You can have not just

[2:36:43] so people can have

[2:36:44] understanding of how to cease

[2:36:51] fire works. Okay. And as MR.

[2:36:52] Eich correctly pointed out, we

[2:36:56] did acts and I skip item c.

[2:36:57] But it's fine because we also

[2:36:58] don't yet have written opinion

[2:37:00] from the city attorney. So

[2:37:02] this item can. Just take that

[2:37:04] once place. So let's move back

[2:37:12] up to. Discussing the budget.

[2:37:15] Okay. So I incorporated the

[2:37:15] feedback that you guys gave

[2:37:18] last month. And moved some of

[2:37:24] the money around. We do have.

[2:37:25] Kind of an exorbitant amount

[2:37:29] of funds. And so, you we can

[2:37:32] move around as needed. Also,

[2:37:36] like for us to consider what

[2:37:37] options might be available as

[2:37:40] like back up expenses or

[2:37:43] things to consider how we

[2:37:44] could use the money for dual

[2:37:45] purpose with the city,

[2:37:46] something that supports

[2:37:47] commission and also meet a

[2:37:52] city need if we. Come in

[2:37:52] significantly and are on our

[2:37:55] budget, which we MAY be. Which

[2:38:00] we MAY be likely to do

[2:38:01] depending on how the rfu

[2:38:05] workout and and how much past

[2:38:07] the building we do as a

[2:38:09] commission of I was excited to

[2:38:09] hear these security training,

[2:38:10] though I MAY take issue with

[2:38:12] the name. I think the

[2:38:17] interesting. Okay. So open it

[2:38:21] up for he'd the primary

[2:38:21] changes that increase in the

[2:38:22] capacity building budget to

[2:38:25] account for increases prices

[2:38:27] well, everything. And then I

[2:38:28] decrease office supplies.

[2:38:31] Don't need a ton of those. And

[2:38:32] think decreased printing and

[2:38:37] advertising. You know, black

[2:38:38] ties bigger meetings and stuff

[2:38:39] like that. Once we really get

[2:38:47] going. To be transparent. I

[2:38:48] believe in being transparent

[2:38:48] when it comes mind because I

[2:38:49] want no bikes and we're doing

[2:38:50] this and doing that. How much

[2:38:53] money have we spent so far? We

[2:39:00] know That's a great question.

[2:39:01] Commissioner and I will I

[2:39:02] requested that information for

[2:39:05] that part of that Chan's

[2:39:06] requests. Okay. And so I can

[2:39:07] for write that and a future

[2:39:10] meeting. Henry why I say that

[2:39:11] because we don't want somebody

[2:39:14] online because we'll get

[2:39:18] accused of getting money for

[2:39:20] all private things. All

[2:39:21] private pit. So if we keep a

[2:39:24] trans parent, then it'll be.

[2:39:27] Great. And then next thing.

[2:39:28] How much for capacity

[2:39:32] building? Are we close to use?

[2:39:35] Not how we even use that yet.

[2:39:39] I've used about 25 2700 for

[2:39:42] the Hawkeyes in face. 27,000

[2:39:46] will cause. We've I say that

[2:39:48] is we should have a ongoing

[2:39:54] training session. Not only for

[2:39:56] us, but maybe our training

[2:39:59] session. We can use to fight

[2:40:00] the public in for that. Also

[2:40:03] for capacity building. We we

[2:40:03] want to be so transparent to

[2:40:06] offer this to it. Everyone not

[2:40:09] just for ourselves. You know,

[2:40:10] good people accuse is going to

[2:40:11] Lake Tahoe spending the money.

[2:40:14] We know what the Lake Tahoe.

[2:40:17] So these let's make sure that

[2:40:18] have this capacity building

[2:40:21] that we do some great. That we

[2:40:24] can pass down. Yeah, that's

[2:40:27] going help our community. And

[2:40:28] that's a good point.

[2:40:29] Everything you got on here is

[2:40:30] outstanding. So we need about

[2:40:35] it. 500,000 for food and drink

[2:40:38] I'm just messing around. Also

[2:40:42] add that there significant

[2:40:42] safeguards in place to prevent

[2:40:45] misuse of funds having gone

[2:40:48] through the reimbursements.

[2:40:52] The saga. And like their

[2:40:56] receipts. And Mike. Everything

[2:40:57] its its of its very intensive

[2:41:01] process. And so I don't think

[2:41:01] it's if a dish assures any

[2:41:06] members of the public quite

[2:41:07] literally not capable duping

[2:41:08] the system because everything

[2:41:10] is accounted for in

[2:41:13] excruciating detail. We do

[2:41:18] live in a society. Where a

[2:41:20] conspiracy theories goal. All

[2:41:23] across the board. And the only

[2:41:25] way you can defeat a

[2:41:26] conspiracy, there to be

[2:41:29] transparent for. And that's

[2:41:32] send it now. Why on screen?

[2:41:33] We're together because we want

[2:41:39] to be transparent. And let me

[2:41:42] give some personal life. Most

[2:41:43] people know that I pastored

[2:41:47] church in a Deep and I haven't

[2:41:51] taken a salary in 14 years. So

[2:41:52] when people ask me, how do you

[2:41:53] do all these things? Because I

[2:41:59] don't take a salary. And so

[2:41:59] it's transparent. My church

[2:42:01] knows that membership. I give

[2:42:04] them. What we spent this year.

[2:42:05] This is how much to was. This

[2:42:05] is what it is. This how much

[2:42:07] you gate this is what you've

[2:42:08] done this way money your money

[2:42:12] went to feeding clients from

[2:42:14] cease-fire. You did this for a

[2:42:14] cease-fire client to help him.

[2:42:15] You did this for this event.

[2:42:18] Whatever the money went, we

[2:42:19] have to be that transparent

[2:42:20] here when it comes to our

[2:42:24] budget because asking the fire

[2:42:26] department pd were asking

[2:42:30] macro, we're asking every dbp

[2:42:31] to be transparent with their

[2:42:33] funds. And we're asking also

[2:42:34] who else City Council to be

[2:42:37] transparent? When they look at

[2:42:39] this film. Like, oh, those

[2:42:41] guys not playing with the

[2:42:41] money because this is the

[2:42:44] people's money. Just people

[2:42:46] money. So the next thing we

[2:42:50] do, I would like for us to do

[2:42:51] which you caught that because

[2:42:53] the sound disabilities, come

[2:42:56] to be quiet. A that's a good

[2:42:59] reminder for us to do. And

[2:43:00] like regular updates on our

[2:43:00] spending as we go through the

[2:43:06] year. Would Oakland Fire was

[2:43:07] sharing was one of Oakland's

[2:43:15] own. Deby Baffert. Does

[2:43:18] consulting civility,

[2:43:19] intelligence and the chief was

[2:43:22] giving us synopsis. Well,

[2:43:24] before we get on the record

[2:43:26] just about how amazing the

[2:43:27] training was. I think they

[2:43:29] have him coming back for him

[2:43:31] and his team for maybe 4 more

[2:43:37] sessions. I witnessed the

[2:43:38] impact of civility,

[2:43:43] intelligence. Maybe probably

[2:43:46] some of the most

[2:43:46] transformative sessions I've

[2:43:50] witnessed. With people and as

[2:43:52] we extended, not just to the

[2:43:53] commission, but anyone else

[2:43:57] like the v p. Perhaps even a

[2:44:00] some of those people who are

[2:44:03] not grantees. Of the vp, but

[2:44:08] we can spend to help train get

[2:44:08] them up to par, maybe even

[2:44:13] prepare them. 4 next. Go round

[2:44:15] of grants mean grantee of the

[2:44:17] vp. But the civilian

[2:44:22] intelligence really. Helps

[2:44:24] people navigate spaces by

[2:44:25] knowing self and having a

[2:44:25] deeper understanding of

[2:44:29] others. Yeah, I think that

[2:44:30] sounds like a great training

[2:44:33] and b, happy to learn more

[2:44:36] about it. I can reach out Ft

[2:44:37] to learn more about who

[2:44:41] provide said in the costs.

[2:44:42] I'll actually out. I'll give

[2:44:43] you some contact information.

[2:44:47] You. For the organization

[2:44:48] directly. I'll send it to you

[2:44:54] and you can speak directly. So

[2:44:55] company. Yeah, since it isn't

[2:44:59] as agency we will need to.

[2:45:01] Take a look at what kind

[2:45:02] requirements there are around

[2:45:03] contracting. If it's over,

[2:45:04] certain amount has to go to

[2:45:06] like an open bed. I'm not sure

[2:45:06] how it works with soliciting

[2:45:09] specifics or if. Perhaps their

[2:45:10] existing contract could be

[2:45:11] amended to include us. And we

[2:45:12] covered that. I don't that we

[2:45:13] have to do brainstorming

[2:45:16] around that. To make sure it's

[2:45:18] all above board. But I do.

[2:45:19] Like the idea of pursuing that

[2:45:22] training. And I would say

[2:45:25] again and even let's keep an

[2:45:26] eye out for not just training

[2:45:29] for a specifically to Dixon's

[2:45:33] point. The community has a

[2:45:36] right to have access to some

[2:45:38] amazing opportunities that we

[2:45:39] see. And we've got the money

[2:45:42] in our budget. So less cash

[2:45:46] amount. They paid I agree. I

[2:45:49] do love the idea of extending

[2:45:50] and invitation for trainings

[2:45:53] that we attend. I will just

[2:45:54] hear the city attorney in the

[2:45:58] back of my of like they did.

[2:45:58] It does have to be in support

[2:45:59] of the commission, which is a

[2:46:02] fairly broad mandate. And I do

[2:46:03] think that, you know,

[2:46:04] improving the capacity for

[2:46:08] some of our. Grantee or the dp

[2:46:11] grantees. To, you know,

[2:46:11] improve what they do and how

[2:46:14] they do it would be important

[2:46:17] also have to check for

[2:46:22] overlapping, priorities Not

[2:46:23] duplicating they know. Vp is

[2:46:24] already working with grantees

[2:46:27] to expand capacity. I have a

[2:46:27] meeting with the city

[2:46:30] attorney, but I will bring all

[2:46:31] of that up to see exactly how

[2:46:34] broadly. The in support of the

[2:46:36] commission. Language could be

[2:46:41] interpreted. To Tiffany. Yes,

[2:46:45] I have 2 recommendations. I'd

[2:46:48] like to propose that we

[2:46:49] implement a budget versus

[2:46:54] actual Just a transparency.

[2:46:56] Check up on a quarterly basis

[2:46:58] to help what Pastor Dixon

[2:47:00] suggests that around

[2:47:02] transparency that will be

[2:47:04] helpful. And then the other

[2:47:07] one to your point around what

[2:47:08] to do with the funds. If we

[2:47:10] are under budget, I would like

[2:47:14] to recommend a community

[2:47:15] activation traps on a yearly

[2:47:19] basis specifically during the

[2:47:20] summertime based on data. We

[2:47:21] know that the summertime is

[2:47:26] one of the most like. Active

[2:47:27] times for violence and crime.

[2:47:30] So that would be a good time.

[2:47:31] These community activations

[2:47:32] are this community activation

[2:47:35] would essentially addressed

[2:47:40] the goals of the top spot. And

[2:47:42] we could stipend some young

[2:47:46] people to conduct some surveys

[2:47:48] that will connect to the

[2:47:49] evaluation report that we want

[2:47:53] to share out eventually and it

[2:47:54] will foster safety and

[2:47:55] community connections. So that

[2:48:01] is I think one great idea. To

[2:48:03] potentially roll out were

[2:48:03] under budget. Yeah, no. I

[2:48:07] think that's a great idea. It

[2:48:08] does overlap summit with our

[2:48:09] fellowship. And so we could

[2:48:09] just clarify that as an

[2:48:18] expansion for specific. Yeah.

[2:48:18] To also learn more about

[2:48:19] committee activation in

[2:48:21] general in the process behind

[2:48:25] it but you know what? That

[2:48:27] sounds really We could also

[2:48:32] during community activation.

[2:48:36] Backpack, giveaways. And I'm

[2:48:40] thinking about bringing opd to

[2:48:41] table recruitment. I'm

[2:48:43] thinking about bringing dbp to

[2:48:45] have some violence,

[2:48:46] interrupters and space

[2:48:47] connecting with the community

[2:48:50] and the neighborhood. I mean,

[2:48:51] it's it will be a great

[2:48:52] opportunity. A local fire

[2:48:53] department, macro, we could

[2:48:54] have a hold of player. Yeah,

[2:49:01] that's right. Yes, I did hear

[2:49:01] them. And so I said we could

[2:49:02] have a whole little fair. You

[2:49:04] know, like, have I do like

[2:49:05] national night out, obviously

[2:49:06] a much smaller scale. But just

[2:49:09] like. Informing the community

[2:49:12] about what these programs But

[2:49:16] they offer like resources.

[2:49:23] Didn't can we get out? They

[2:49:29] smoked No, no. Self-promotion.

[2:49:30] I will say, though, if you

[2:49:31] guys you want cards, you can

[2:49:32] order them. I did that for the

[2:49:33] conference is very helpful.

[2:49:36] And this can be reimbursed.

[2:49:40] And office expenses. Gold

[2:49:52] plated Gold Okay. I'm like

[2:49:56] great ideas. Do we? Do? We

[2:49:58] want to amend the budget too.

[2:50:02] Include? Well, I think we need

[2:50:03] to talk to city attorney for

[2:50:08] but we could budget. All ready

[2:50:09] for that kind of community

[2:50:10] activation. I think it's great

[2:50:18] idea. We could make Contracts.

[2:50:20] Both Rp sequel. Because

[2:50:23] they're already pretty hefty

[2:50:28] budget 100 for that. The

[2:50:28] following approval discussion

[2:50:31] with the city attorney. We all

[2:50:41] think. Yes, cool. Well, then.

[2:50:42] And doing much to adapt. We

[2:50:42] know this is an information

[2:50:43] item. No, it wasn't. It was an

[2:50:45] action item. Okay. With that,

[2:50:50] I'll move to. Actually it's

[2:50:53] very vague. Don't really need

[2:50:55] to move on anything here. Do I

[2:50:56] cause? I'm just going to come

[2:50:56] back with more information for

[2:50:59] for ok? I will follow up with

[2:51:00] the city attorney on this and

[2:51:03] several other items and report

[2:51:05] back. But we are in agreement

[2:51:08] that we would make the rfp

[2:51:11] budgets equal. So as to

[2:51:11] allocate $100,000 for a

[2:51:14] community activation. Event or

[2:51:22] period. Next step. We've got.

[2:51:28] Open forum. I believe. Chair

[2:51:30] side. There is one additional

[2:51:35] item. But you send a update on

[2:51:36] the rfp and city attorney We

[2:51:39] don't have an update from the

[2:51:42] city attorney yet. That is my

[2:51:43] update. Okay. Well, there is

[2:51:45] one update on the rfp process.

[2:51:46] If you like me to bring my

[2:51:51] neck with. Yes, thank you.

[2:51:52] Okay. I'm actually this

[2:51:53] received an email regarding

[2:51:55] the rfp process and this is dr

[2:51:56] p specifically for the

[2:52:01] evaluation. Our finance staff

[2:52:03] has assigned a management

[2:52:05] assistant to work with us on

[2:52:08] the rfp I have. And the

[2:52:09] timeline now and are you will

[2:52:17] be released this fall. When

[2:52:18] it's what it is really so make

[2:52:19] sure that you all are aware of

[2:52:24] that. Have again chart and the

[2:52:25] timeline. So I'm really

[2:52:26] excited about that because

[2:52:30] it's with this staffing

[2:52:30] currently in the city's

[2:52:32] sometimes challenging, too, to

[2:52:33] move forward with everything

[2:52:36] that we need to. But we do

[2:52:36] have a timeline and the staff

[2:52:39] assigned to the Regarding the

[2:52:43] fellowship rfp. That was that

[2:52:43] in your draft rfp. That was a

[2:52:47] year packet last month. We are

[2:52:48] still waiting for a review by

[2:52:50] the city attorney's office.

[2:52:52] And I spoke with City

[2:52:56] attorney. They believe she's

[2:52:58] deputy senior deputy city

[2:52:59] attorney, silly a war in this

[2:53:02] afternoon. And she we'll

[2:53:04] follow up with on some legal

[2:53:05] guidance in terms of how we

[2:53:07] move forward with the Belgian

[2:53:08] party. So we're moving forward

[2:53:10] and making progress from those

[2:53:14] 2 items. Thank you. Now we can

[2:53:17] move to open forum and the

[2:53:17] members of the public MAY

[2:53:19] speak on any non-agendized

[2:53:20] items with an ops box

[2:53:30] jurisdiction. You can vote,

[2:53:33] right? You have 2 minutes on

[2:53:34] item. David Boatright district

[2:53:39] 4. Which the chief was here

[2:53:45] hear this. During the Oakland

[2:53:46] Wildfire Prevention Commission

[2:53:50] meeting the last one. He made

[2:53:52] the comment that because of

[2:53:54] dangerous situation between

[2:53:54] one of his vegetation

[2:53:57] inspectors and the public that

[2:53:59] he directed all of his

[2:54:00] vegetation inspectors to do

[2:54:00] their inspections from the

[2:54:06] street. And to me, that isn't

[2:54:09] going catch too much. There's

[2:54:12] probably a good place there

[2:54:13] for saving getting volunteers

[2:54:14] to do inspections from the

[2:54:19] street. And give the fireman's

[2:54:21] more time off. Instead of

[2:54:21] going around doing and

[2:54:23] necessary or not that useful

[2:54:27] inspections from the street.

[2:54:29] And they also know where the

[2:54:31] problem areas are because

[2:54:31] people it's a very small

[2:54:32] noncompliance number for the

[2:54:34] city. They should focus their

[2:54:38] efforts on that. So at least

[2:54:39] it's in the record. There's

[2:54:40] area for saving money and make

[2:54:41] it a little easier on the for

[2:54:45] months. Thank you for your

[2:54:48] comment. Just clarify since

[2:54:51] fire suppression isn't in 3

[2:54:52] measure objectives. We don't

[2:54:55] have any influence on that.

[2:54:55] But I will say it. It does

[2:54:57] seem unfortunate that. The

[2:55:02] vegetation. Weather was

[2:55:03] looking at the vegetation and

[2:55:06] defensible space could not be

[2:55:07] safe in doing so. And I hope

[2:55:13] that there's a remedy to that.

[2:55:15] If he is included in measure

[2:55:19] and then under those specific

[2:55:21] 3 objectives of measure. And

[2:55:22] regarding like righty of

[2:55:26] property and violent crimes

[2:55:27] producing human trafficking

[2:55:27] sexual exploitation of minors

[2:55:32] and then also improving the

[2:55:34] timeliness and quality of

[2:55:41] emergency response. I see your

[2:55:43] logic, just acknowledging that

[2:55:45] a hop skip and a jump away

[2:55:46] from our specific

[2:55:47] jurisdiction. But I certainly

[2:55:52] think I hope so. And please

[2:55:53] feel free reach out to him. I

[2:55:54] think all input from community

[2:55:59] is important. Okay. So I will

[2:56:00] move to. Fact, there's one

[2:56:03] more one more. Okay. Gosh,

[2:56:05] sorry. I so everybody on zoom,

[2:56:10] I cannot see. Also live Kabul.

[2:56:10] This a sign olamide? You MAY

[2:56:13] begin your comments. According

[2:56:14] to what I've been able to

[2:56:18] discern. Oakland police

[2:56:21] offices involved with

[2:56:22] cease-fire, participating,

[2:56:24] proactive intervention

[2:56:26] Investigations. They conduct

[2:56:27] proactive traffic stops.

[2:56:30] Vehicle slash Uber person

[2:56:32] searches and targeted

[2:56:33] investigations that result in

[2:56:36] the recall will. Recovery of

[2:56:38] illegal firearms in North

[2:56:39] counts. And they also arrest

[2:56:42] not comply. Individuals when

[2:56:45] outreach and support fails.

[2:56:46] Not all of this is going on

[2:56:50] ways. The data. That monthly

[2:56:51] reports out pool at the

[2:56:55] traffic stops, the vehicle

[2:56:56] person searches, the targeted

[2:56:57] investigations that it result

[2:57:01] in what amount of illegal

[2:57:02] firearms and narcotics on a

[2:57:05] monthly basis was recovered.

[2:57:07] And how many people who were

[2:57:10] arrested that were involved in

[2:57:12] not is non compliant

[2:57:13] individuals with outreach and

[2:57:13] support fail way. Is that

[2:57:17] date? All this is going on

[2:57:19] with these thirtysomething

[2:57:20] cease-fire offices whenever

[2:57:24] they doing. Where is the data?

[2:57:26] For reflects on a monthly

[2:57:31] basis? What they are doing.

[2:57:32] And the program supposed to be

[2:57:35] evidence base way is the data

[2:57:36] evidence of the work that they

[2:57:40] do based on categories. So if

[2:57:41] this is not what they do and

[2:57:46] what are they doing? And that

[2:57:46] never that has never been

[2:57:50] presented in report on a

[2:57:51] monthly basis. The work of the

[2:57:54] cease-fire, police offices.

[2:57:55] And I hope at some point it

[2:57:57] will be revealed as well as

[2:58:00] the services and resources on

[2:58:02] a monthly basis housing drug

[2:58:06] treatment, mental health,

[2:58:08] anger management, job

[2:58:09] training, relocation. All of

[2:58:10] this is supposed to be going

[2:58:12] on with the sly, but no data

[2:58:16] ever comes up with numbers.

[2:58:20] Thank you, chair. That public

[2:58:25] comment. Thank you. I will

[2:58:29] move to adjourn. This will

[2:58:32] follow up about rescheduling.

[2:58:35] NOVEMBER and DECEMBER because

[2:58:36] I know Monday after

[2:58:37] Thanksgiving might be

[2:58:39] challenging and also the

[2:58:39] DECEMBER meeting falls on like

[2:58:40] the 20th, which is obviously

[2:58:43] not a good idea. The Monday

[2:58:44] meeting is actually in

[2:58:48] NOVEMBER. 16th. It's the 3rd

[2:58:49] Monday, okay in NOVEMBER. So I

[2:58:50] think that the commission can

[2:58:53] meet on that day. So, I it's

[2:58:54] availabe out that All right.

[2:58:59] That's Muncy. Yes. Combined

[2:59:06] the meeting is ok, right? But

[2:59:07] you aren't. You are correct.

[2:59:08] Chair about the DECEMBER

[2:59:09] meeting. The 80's. Well, the

[2:59:12] DECEMBER meeting is DECEMBER.

[2:59:14] 21st. Well, I don't think any

[2:59:15] of us are gonna make that. So

[2:59:16] we'll follow every e-mail

[2:59:17] about availability for earlier

[2:59:20] Monday. In DECEMBER. That they

[2:59:26] don't 16. 16 show can. Be

[2:59:26] DECEMBER 14th. Welcome week

[2:59:33] inside of one. All I on on

[2:59:34] yes, think that way

[2:59:35] technicalities, like me, who

[2:59:42] won't be in town. Catch it.

[2:59:43] Okay. Cool. In that case. I

[2:59:43] move to adjourn and thank you

[2:59:47] all for. They're saying for 58

[2:59:51] right on time. Second 3. The

[2:59:52] second. Just a joint effort.

[2:59:53] You can adjourn. Okay. We're

[2:59:54] adjourned. Good night. Thank

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