[0:03] All right. Good evening everyone. We'll

[0:06] call the Ovette City Council meeting on

[0:08] August 25th, 2026 to order. Please, can

[0:11] we please have roll call?

[0:13] >> Mayor Lewis

[0:14] >> here.

[0:14] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman

[0:16] >> here.

[0:16] >> Council member Clark

[0:18] >> here.

[0:18] >> Council member Solomonov

[0:19] >> here.

[0:20] >> Council member Durgel

[0:21] >> here.

[0:22] >> All righty. Uh, are there any

[0:24] communications to share at this time?

[0:26] >> I have no written communications. All

[0:28] right, we'll move on to item number

[0:30] three, city manager report, please.

[0:32] >> Good evening.

[0:35] Let me

[0:40] share my screen.

[0:48] » We were late, so sorry.

[0:53] >> All right. Um, good evening everyone.

[0:57] Um, so, um, I have a number of upcoming

[0:59] events. We are winding up summer and,

[1:03] uh, fall is always super busy for us.

[1:06] So, we encourage everybody to come out

[1:08] to Paris Baguette, um, August 31st,

[1:12] which is next Monday between 8 and 10:00

[1:15] a.m. in the morning to meet with one of

[1:18] our, uh, police officers. So, coffee

[1:20] with a cop uh, will be during that time.

[1:23] There will be coffee and some limited

[1:25] free pastries. So, if you have not had a

[1:27] chance to uh try a pastry at Paris

[1:31] Baguette, this would be a great

[1:32] opportunity to do that, as well as uh

[1:35] come talk to one of Olivet's finests.

[1:40] Uh and September 15th is Night Out. So,

[1:44] this is an opportunity for you and your

[1:46] neighbors to gather to have a block

[1:49] party and then if you sign up uh some

[1:52] oliveette city officials, including the

[1:56] uh police officers, the fire department,

[1:58] you might get the fire truck or the

[2:00] ambulance uh to come and to stop by and

[2:02] to say hello um meet and greet with uh

[2:05] our oliveette community. So, um we would

[2:08] encourage all of the neighbors to go

[2:10] ahead and sign up. If you have

[2:12] questions, uh, please reach out to

[2:14] Lieutenant Selzer in the police

[2:16] department.

[2:20] And every year we do the Battle of the

[2:23] Badges, which is a competition between

[2:26] the fire department and the police

[2:27] department. Uh, it is essentially a

[2:30] blood drive for the American Red Cross.

[2:33] And both our fire department and our

[2:36] police department have compelling

[2:38] stories, personal stories about

[2:41] grandchildren uh and their need for

[2:44] blood, hence the blood drive. And so

[2:46] individuals who come and donate blood

[2:49] are given an opportunity to cast a vote

[2:52] for either the police department or the

[2:54] fire department. Um and at the you know

[2:57] at the end of the drive the winning

[3:00] department receives some gift from the

[3:04] losing department. Um the fire

[3:07] department has more years that they have

[3:09] won uh than the police department. So

[3:12] come out donate for a good cause to the

[3:14] American cross and then choose which

[3:17] public safety group is your favorite.

[3:22] Trivia night is being hosted at Five

[3:25] Oaks on September 18th. There are nine

[3:28] tables left, so bring your friends uh

[3:31] for a table of eight. The theme this

[3:33] year is 90s and 2000s sitcoms, so there

[3:36] should be something for everyone. Um

[3:40] register for your table and we hope to

[3:42] see you there. I think there's at least

[3:44] one staff table. Um and I think a couple

[3:48] other folks have gotten um tables for

[3:50] the trivia night.

[3:53] The great Olivet cleanout is happening

[3:55] again. It is at Five Oaks on Warson.

[3:58] This is a change from um Stacy Park. So

[4:01] in years past it's been at Stacy Park.

[4:03] This year it is at Five Oaks on Warson.

[4:05] It's on the lower parking lot. So this

[4:08] is an opportunity for residents to

[4:11] either have documents shredded if you

[4:14] have some of those in your office or

[4:16] your home office. This is not for um a

[4:19] business cleanout, but if you do have a

[4:21] home office and you have documents that

[4:23] you would like shredded or if you have

[4:25] any um e-waste, so almost anything with

[4:28] a cord, uh they will take and uh recycle

[4:31] those for you.

[4:32] >> Do you know if it's still a drive-thru?

[4:34] >> Yes, as far as I know, it is still a

[4:35] drive-thru. And so there is a very

[4:37] specific route for you to uh to come

[4:40] through. They will take the items um out

[4:42] of your vehicle. It's very easy. you

[4:45] should be um in and out in not much time

[4:47] at all. So, and we did receive the

[4:49] grant. So, we've signed off on that and

[4:51] we did receive the grant for this.

[4:56] » The fall and winter activity guide is

[4:58] out. These are all of the recreational

[5:01] programs that the city is offering

[5:03] through the fall and the winter. We have

[5:05] some hard copies out in the lobby if you

[5:07] would like. Uh it's also on the city's

[5:09] website and should be hitting should

[5:12] actually be in homes already. So, we

[5:14] would encourage you to check those out.

[5:15] We have activities for all ages.

[5:19] And then I just always encourage

[5:21] everyone to sign up for weekly, which is

[5:23] our weekly e newswsletter.

[5:27] And then just some general city updates.

[5:31] Um, our new finance director, Julia

[5:34] Gwyn, starts tomorrow. So, we probably

[5:38] uh in September, we will bringing be

[5:39] bringing her to council to to introduce

[5:41] her. Uh we are recruiting for another

[5:45] police officer. Uh two weeks ago I told

[5:48] you that we had made conditional officer

[5:51] offers to two individuals. Uh one of

[5:54] them accepted. They are in the

[5:55] pre-employment screening phase. Um the

[5:58] other candidate decided that uh he was

[6:00] going to remain at his uh his place of

[6:02] employment. Um and then the follow-up

[6:05] from the Hicks Carter Hicks the

[6:07] employment engagement committee is

[6:09] meeting this week. They're going to

[6:10] start working on um employee recognition

[6:14] and then um I have asked Hicks Carter

[6:17] Hicks to craft a proposal to help the

[6:20] city with an internal communications

[6:22] plan. uh one of the uh comments and

[6:26] areas of deficiency on the survey was

[6:29] communication and that's a pretty broad

[6:31] um topic and so I do think working with

[6:34] them to create and improve some of our

[6:37] internal communications is a good start

[6:39] to making headway on that uh survey

[6:42] result. Are they going to talk to

[6:44] employees to understand kind of like

[6:46] what I I know they have the survey

[6:48] results, but to understand like where

[6:49] they saw gaps in communication. Will

[6:51] they have those conversations before

[6:52] they craft?

[6:53] >> They're going to craft me a proposal to

[6:55] do it. So like we'll get a scope of

[6:56] work.

[6:57] >> Oh, proposal to even reach out and talk

[6:58] to people. Gotcha.

[6:59] >> Correct. Not build a plan and then say

[7:01] Okay. Correct. Gotcha.

[7:05] » Uh and then here are your upcoming

[7:07] meeting dates. And so with that, I can

[7:09] answer any council questions.

[7:14] No. All right. Thank you very much.

[7:18] >> All right. We are going to move on to

[7:20] staff reports, please, then.

[7:21] >> All right. Uh, starting with fire

[7:23] department. So, we often talk about the

[7:24] fire department and their um

[7:27] firefighting training and their um calls

[7:31] for fire. But I thought this month we

[7:33] might just kind of highlight the fact

[7:35] that they do run an ambulance and that

[7:39] takes a a good amount of their time.

[7:41] They actually run quite a few medical

[7:43] calls. So just

[7:46] uh looking at this chart, this is on

[7:48] average about five calls a day that

[7:51] they're running. Um, as you can see,

[7:53] they spend a lot of time in the city of

[7:55] Alvette, but we are also contracted for

[7:58] um, fire service, fire and EMS service

[8:01] for the pocket of uninccorporated that's

[8:04] just north of us on Dealman. So, we

[8:07] respond there. St. Louis County

[8:09] contracts with us, pays us to provide

[8:11] that service to them. And then we do get

[8:13] called out of town um often to um Creve

[8:17] Corps or U City um or certain things on

[8:21] the highway we might get called out for both police and or for EMS and fire

[8:28] parks and wreck. Uh we just finished

[8:31] earlier this month uh municipals. So,

[8:34] municipals is this uh part of this photo

[8:37] right here is h offered every other year

[8:41] and it is a camp that highlights the

[8:45] city departments. So, the police

[8:47] department had a day and brought out the

[8:51] mounted patrol from St. Charles County,

[8:54] brought out some therapy dogs, brought

[8:57] out some um other fun police things. The

[9:02] fire department had a day had an half a

[9:05] day and they got to go down the slide

[9:06] and the fire department because we have

[9:08] a slide and not a pole and they got to

[9:11] do some other fun uh firefighter things.

[9:14] This particular picture we had an

[9:16] opportunity to partner with Emerson who

[9:18] is a business here in the city of

[9:20] Alvette and they came and did uh science

[9:24] things with uh with the kids. So they

[9:26] did the egg drop project um learning

[9:29] about gravity and um force distribution

[9:32] and things like that. And so the kids

[9:33] had a good time. And then the other

[9:35] thing with uh the parks department, this

[9:38] happens to be the segment uh one of the

[9:40] new segments of the Centennial Greenway.

[9:43] So now that that greenway has been in

[9:45] for more than one year, maintenance

[9:47] falls to the city. And so this is our um

[9:50] horiculturalist

[9:52] and our park staff who are clearing um

[9:55] clearing the fence lines uh along along

[9:58] that particular section of the trail

[10:03] planning department. So these are fiscal

[10:05] year to date. So from June of 25 through

[10:09] July uh no I'm sorry July of 25 through

[10:12] June of this year. So, as you can see,

[10:15] um they were pretty consistent. Uh lots

[10:19] of people got their roof replaced um in

[10:22] this particular fiscal year, most likely

[10:24] from uh the storm that came through in

[10:27] um in this in May of last year. Um and

[10:31] we see a lot of um tenant finishes. So,

[10:34] this could be like reinvestment by

[10:37] businesses or new businesses coming in

[10:39] or updates to businesses. Uh so this is

[10:42] a good sign and what has um been keeping

[10:45] one aspect of what has been keeping um

[10:48] Carlos and his staff very busy over the

[10:51] course of the year.

[10:54] The police department uh officer Bagsby,

[10:58] this is Officer Bagsby here. He went to

[11:00] Aphina Healthc Care's event um talking

[11:04] about gun safety in particular uh

[11:06] gunlocks. The Alvette Police Department

[11:09] donated 50 gunlocks for this particular

[11:11] event. So, this is just a reminder that

[11:14] our police department has gunlocks

[11:17] available to anyone in the community who

[11:19] is interested. There's no cost. Uh, and

[11:22] they are available Monday through

[11:23] Friday, normal business hours. Just go

[11:26] see the records clerk um here at city

[11:28] center uh if that's something that you

[11:30] are interested.

[11:34] And then public works. Um, if you have

[11:37] driven at Price, North Price and Olive,

[11:41] you have seen a lot of work there. Uh,

[11:43] this happens to be the contractor. They

[11:46] did some paving overnight. They did a

[11:49] really um a really nice job on that

[11:52] work. The work here at the 9201 Olive

[11:56] site where um the CBDraton building was,

[12:02] there has been a delay. It is not a

[12:04] delay related to the city.

[12:07] It is a delay because a a pipe wasn't

[12:10] where wasn't as deep as we thought it

[12:12] was.

[12:14] That required some changes to storm

[12:16] water drains that MDOT took a long time

[12:18] trying to figure out what they wanted.

[12:20] Um but work is moving forward. In fact,

[12:23] Spire was on site today moving the gas

[12:25] line that needed to be moved in order to

[12:27] accommodate um the storm drain. So,

[12:29] we're a little bit behind on where we

[12:32] thought we would be to close out this

[12:33] project. Um, but it is related to

[12:37] situations beyond our control. And then

[12:39] we do have some good news. So, as you

[12:42] might recall, we um put in for a grant

[12:45] for

[12:46] um reconstruction of North Price between

[12:50] Delmare and Old Bonum um an STPS grant.

[12:54] And while we have not received the grant

[12:56] yet, we are on the recommended list. So,

[13:01] um, East Swiss Gateway meets later this

[13:04] week to review that recommended list and

[13:06] hopefully approve that list and

[13:08] hopefully we will be approved so that we

[13:12] can um move forward

[13:15] with reconstruction of that section of

[13:17] North Price. It is a multi-year project.

[13:20] So there will be design time and

[13:22] right-of-way acquisition time and then

[13:24] construction time. So it's looking

[13:26] probably a 3 to four year long u process

[13:31] and that is all I have unless you have

[13:33] any additional questions for me.

[13:36] >> Questions? Pencil? No, it's very

[13:39] thorough. Thank you very much.

[13:40] >> Thank you.

[13:41] >> All right, we will move on to monthly

[13:44] financial reports, please.

[14:04] All right, I am filling in for our

[14:06] interim finance director who um she had

[14:10] a previously scheduled event this

[14:13] evening. So um you are seeing the report

[14:17] for the second month of the year. Um

[14:22] as you can see we are we are on track.

[14:25] Um general revenue started the year

[14:28] above expectations by about $37,000.

[14:33] General fund expenditures are also above

[14:35] expectations. Um this is normal. We have

[14:38] a variety of um like all of our

[14:41] insuranceances are due. So workers comp,

[14:44] liability, property, all of that is due

[14:47] um at the very beginning of the year. So

[14:50] um that's not unexpected.

[14:53] Um it does result in an unfavorable

[14:55] variance. But again, we are um this is

[14:58] the July financial report. So at this

[15:00] point, we were one month into uh into

[15:03] the into the into the year.

[15:06] Um it is not unusual for property taxes

[15:09] to be slow. Again, we get those in um

[15:12] December and January.

[15:15] And um parks and wreck revenues started

[15:19] the year mixed um and they do um they

[15:22] exceeded budget projections due to high

[15:24] soccer enrollments. So soccer is very popular. And then the chart of our

[15:29] month, this is our monthly uh 1% sales

[15:33] tax, which we took out a bunch of the

[15:35] noise. If you might remember past

[15:37] graphs, there were a lot of lines there.

[15:40] So this is just the last two years. So

[15:43] fiscal 25, fiscal 26 and then where we

[15:46] are um for 27. So we are of course

[15:50] higher than 25 and a little bit below um

[15:53] of 26.

[15:55] So if you have any questions, I'm happy

[15:56] to answer those for you.

[15:58] >> We anticipate a drop off or I don't

[15:59] remember what the drop off. Yeah,

[16:02] >> we don't anticipate the drop off, but I

[16:05] will say sales tax tends to be cyclical.

[16:09] So, anything that we uh receive in

[16:12] September is actually from people buying

[16:15] things in July because it's always a

[16:17] two-month lag.

[16:18] >> Um, so

[16:20] we could it could also be um July is a

[16:27] is half the year and a quarter of the

[16:29] year. And so there are certain entities

[16:32] that only report sales tax half of the

[16:34] year, half of the way through the year

[16:36] and a quarter of the way through the

[16:37] year. So that um drop off could have

[16:40] been somebody missed the cut off. Um so

[16:44] there are a variety of of factors that

[16:47] could um account for that.

[16:50] >> But it bounced back up bounced back up.

[16:52] >> Correct. Yeah.

[16:53] >> Correct. particularly if it's um they

[16:56] just miss the cut off because then you

[16:58] get to you know you get it the next

[17:00] month. So

[17:04] » that's all I have unless you have

[17:05] anything else.

[17:05] >> No. Any questions?

[17:07] >> No.

[17:07] >> Okay.

[17:08] >> All right. Thank you. All right. We're

[17:10] going to move on to city council liaison

[17:12] reports for each council member to give

[17:14] an update of kind of activities they've

[17:15] been up to. Uh council member Clark,

[17:18] >> I have no reports at this time. Council

[17:21] member Jurgal.

[17:22] >> Uh we had a parks meeting. Um most of

[17:25] the meeting was the installation of two

[17:27] new commissioners. So uh was kind of

[17:30] orient or orienting them to the process.

[17:34] And it was great going through it again

[17:35] because u uh they went over all of you

[17:38] know of city government and uh I know I

[17:42] was given the training beforehand but

[17:44] when you hear it the second time it

[17:45] sinks in a little bit more. So that's

[17:48] always good. Um, one other thing that's

[17:50] coming up with uh the parks is going to

[17:52] be the review of the Indian Meadows uh

[17:55] pavilions. So, that that's on their

[17:57] agenda and uh should be moving along.

[18:01] >> Great. Uh, Council Member Sono.

[18:05] >> Uh, no report for me this evening. I do

[18:06] have an EDC meeting next Monday.

[18:10] >> It's on.

[18:11] >> It's

[18:14] Oh, the light is hitting my mistake.

[18:15] It's my first day. All right. uh

[18:17] chairman promis

[18:20] I attended the PCDC meeting on August

[18:22] 20th and at that meeting an outdoor uh

[18:26] metal canopy was approved for the brass

[18:30] tap to help extend the seasons for them

[18:33] um and extend some seating outside

[18:36] during the wintertime months. So, that

[18:38] was approved. Um, and that the roof of

[18:41] that structure will stay throughout the

[18:44] year, but then there's a wall kind of

[18:46] enclosure that's temporary for the uh

[18:50] months of November through Feb fe

[18:52] November through February.

[18:55] Um, we also discussed continued

[18:57] discussing a text amendment for coin

[19:00] operated laundromats.

[19:03] Um and a new single family home was

[19:06] approved for 1123 Hilltop

[19:10] and uh also had discussion on a text

[19:12] amendment to allow for other warehousing

[19:15] and storage that would be specifically

[19:18] for car condominiums.

[19:21] So, these are uh spaces that would be um

[19:27] condominiums that would be sold to

[19:29] individuals uh who would likely store

[19:32] their luxury cars, potentially

[19:35] um RVs and boats. Um but they would be

[19:39] individual condominiums. So, kind of a

[19:43] new thing um coming before the

[19:47] commission and and so it's um at the

[19:49] discussion stage at this point. Um and

[19:53] that's all. Thank you.

[19:54] >> Great. Uh a couple of things. I had the

[19:57] privilege of speaking uh chamber of

[20:00] commerce uh for the state of the city

[20:01] and it's an opportunity where I get to

[20:03] go and give a state of the city of how

[20:05] we're doing from an economic and

[20:07] residential and development and just how

[20:09] we're overall you know what is all of

[20:11] that and get to brag on all of that

[20:13] which was very exciting and a big thank

[20:15] you to staff Kiana and uh others for

[20:18] helping you know draft things put

[20:20] together a great slideshow and it was

[20:22] you know really wellreceived and get and

[20:23] get to meet some people there so that

[20:24] was really nice and then today I

[20:26] attended the Olivet housing authority uh

[20:28] where they had a few procedural items

[20:30] reviewing the financial audit reports

[20:32] approving other things talking about

[20:33] next steps on everything around some of

[20:35] the policies we're moving forward on the

[20:37] housing. So that that is progressing as

[20:39] well. Um and then um yeah those were

[20:44] things that I got to attend. So uh we'll

[20:47] move on to item seven items from council

[20:49] members. So, a chance for us just if

[20:51] we've been hearing things that you want

[20:53] to bring up for a future topic, we won't

[20:54] go deep into them now. And uh just a

[20:57] open forum.

[21:00] >> Nope.

[21:01] >> Nothing for me.

[21:01] >> All right. No,

[21:04] >> nothing for me.

[21:05] either. The only things

[21:07] I'll mention um since not everyone

[21:09] probably was able to attend previous

[21:10] meetings we've had and since I see a lot

[21:12] of uh speakers here which is going to be

[21:13] great is we did at a previous work

[21:16] session a few weeks ago discuss the

[21:17] Indian Meadows Pavilion and as uh

[21:19] council member Joel mentioned that's

[21:21] going to come before parks and wreck

[21:22] where they're going to we asked to go

[21:24] back to their ask for their assessment

[21:26] and then it'll come back to the council

[21:27] at that point um and we'd given the

[21:30] direction to look at what it would take

[21:31] to remove and what their thoughts were

[21:33] and then uh we'll get their feedback on

[21:35] that. uh previous meeting we'd obviously

[21:37] discussed block cameras with the uh

[21:39] chief of police and so that will be on a

[21:41] future agenda so just calling that out

[21:43] as well as the NIT policy will be on a

[21:45] future uh agenda in the future as well

[21:48] uh and then obvious

[21:52] uh I imagine people here to speak as

[21:54] well and so appreciated that we had

[21:56] committed ID committed back that we're

[21:58] going to meet with our legal team to

[21:59] understand what options all of it has

[22:00] because it is a unique situation and

[22:02] then uh happy to meet with the concerned

[22:04] citizens themselves and any council are

[22:06] welcome to join me to want to hear

[22:07] everyone's you know concerns in person

[22:09] and understand everything and then after

[22:11] that we'll take whatever the appropriate

[22:14] actions that we can and don't know what

[22:16] those are right now can't promise

[22:17] anything but you know want to hear from

[22:19] everyone and then we'll we'll see what

[22:20] comes of that so all right uh we're

[22:23] going to move on to hearing from

[22:25] citizens so this is a portion of the

[22:26] agenda where anyone present in person or

[22:28] virtually may address the city council

[22:30] regarding any topic including those

[22:32] later in the agenda each speaker is

[22:34] allowed up three minutes to address the

[22:35] mayor and city council. Hearing from

[22:38] citizens is designed for councils to

[22:39] receive feedback rather than for a

[22:41] direct dialogue. We will take speakers

[22:43] in person first followed by any online.

[22:45] If you are in person, please complete a

[22:47] speaker card and give it to the clerk.

[22:48] If you've already given your card to the

[22:49] clerk, we will take you in the order

[22:52] submitted on your card. If you are

[22:54] online, wish to speak, please use the

[22:55] raise your hand feature and you will be

[22:57] added as a speaker. For all speakers, we

[22:59] ask that you state your name and address

[23:01] for the record prior to leaving the

[23:03] remarks and that you keep the three

[23:05] minutes and just so for the equity for

[23:08] everyone. So, uh, first are Nancy and

[23:10] Bob Martin, please.

[23:17] And if you don't mind turning on the

[23:18] mic, please.

[23:21] >> Yep.

[23:23] Perfect.

[23:24] >> Um, good evening. My name is Bob Martin.

[23:28] Nancy Martin

[23:29] >> and we live at 39 Brford. Um, last week

[23:33] we sent all you guys an email regarding

[23:35] uh AZZ and a Missouri uh state statute.

[23:40] Uh, this is concerning AZ galvanizing.

[23:42] Um, thank you Mr. Mayor for responding.

[23:45] >> Yes.

[23:46] >> Um, following are excer ex excuse me

[23:48] excerpts from the Missouri state chapter

[23:50] 220 nuisance. nuisances. A nuisance is

[23:54] any act done or committed or suffered to

[23:56] be done, committed by any person or any

[23:59] substance or thing kept, maintained,

[24:01] placed or found in any public or private

[24:03] property that is injurous to the public

[24:05] health, safety or welfare. are to permit

[24:08] premises to become unsightly,

[24:09] unsanitary, or obnoxious or obl to the

[24:14] vicini to the vicinity or offensive to

[24:16] the senses of users of the public way

[24:19] abudding the premises that depreciates

[24:21] the enjoyment and the use of the

[24:23] property in the immediate vicinity to

[24:26] such an extent that it is harmful to the

[24:28] community in which the property is

[24:30] situated or such a condition exists. AZZ

[24:34] Galvanizing fits every one of these

[24:35] definitions of a nuisance. It's zoned

[24:38] light industrial, but it's expanded

[24:39] several times over the years. It's not

[24:42] light industrial anymore. We are asking

[24:44] Alvette to protect its citizens from

[24:46] this nuisance and use statute title 7

[24:50] cities, towns, and villages chapter 71.7

[24:54] I'm sorry 71.780

[24:56] nuisances expensive suppression how paid

[25:00] the noise and toxic emissions are

[25:03] unbearable and hazardous to our

[25:05] neighbors health and quality of life and

[25:09] ours. Uh, we are sleeping in our bedroom

[25:12] that faces away from ACZ because we

[25:14] can't sleep in our master bedroom

[25:16] anymore from the noise. We can't enjoy

[25:18] our beautiful yard. We've lived in

[25:20] Olivet for 32 years. It's home. Um,

[25:23] >> please help us.

[25:26] Um, they're getting worse and worse.

[25:30] And we're up on Brford High where the

[25:33] noise really hits us, but our neighbors

[25:35] in Indian Meadows are just getting

[25:37] creamed. They're getting gassed. It's

[25:39] terrible. But thank you very much for

[25:41] coming. Really appreciate it.

[25:42] >> Thank you.

[25:46] » All right. Uh moving on. Uh Jenny

[25:49] Littleton.

[26:00] Hi, my name is Jenny Littleton. I live

[26:02] at 9639 Haron Drive. I just want to ask

[26:06] my city council if they would please

[26:07] support and help all of the residents

[26:10] deal with this do's a galvanizing.

[26:13] It's to the point where my son who's

[26:16] seven, he's beginning to have temper

[26:18] tantrums because he has a trampoline, a

[26:22] basketball hoop, a soccer net that now

[26:25] he can't play because when he begins to

[26:28] play, I have to make him come in. And so

[26:31] now he's getting upset, stumping yelling

[26:35] in the house. What's the purpose of me

[26:37] having this if I can't play? When are

[26:39] they going to move that company? He's

[26:40] seven years old. This is the point where

[26:45] he doesn't have temper tantrums. Now

[26:48] he's having them because he's not

[26:49] getting to play outside. And this was

[26:52] for the summer. So, I had to make fun

[26:55] activities in my basement. So, I mean,

[26:58] now the children, it's to the point

[27:00] where I'm asking the kids and my

[27:02] subdivision, you you guys got to go home

[27:04] now. You can't play here. Can we come

[27:05] back when the smoke is gone? Yes, you

[27:07] can come back. So, now the kids, it's

[27:10] just getting to be too much. And then

[27:12] also, I'm I know you brought up about

[27:14] you're going to bring it up with the

[27:15] parks and you guys are going to redisuss

[27:17] about the pavilion. Please move that

[27:20] pavilion. There's so much going on that

[27:22] my son is seven. He said, "There's

[27:24] always something going on over here at

[27:27] this pavilion. Problems every day. He's

[27:31] seven. There was a time he didn't know

[27:32] anything about that. Now he's seven."

[27:35] And he's saying these things. And one of

[27:37] the neighbors, she couldn't be here

[27:38] today. She did ask me, "Until you guys

[27:40] decide about how you're going to move

[27:43] it, would you please at least move the

[27:45] tables underneath the pavilion while you

[27:47] guys are trying to figure out how you're

[27:49] going to move that pavilion?" So until

[27:52] you have a due date when you're going to

[27:54] move it, could you please at least move

[27:55] the tables? Cuz a lot of that buffoonery

[27:58] that happens in the morning, afternoon,

[28:00] and night, they won't have anywhere to

[28:02] sit and lay and do all of that extra

[28:05] activity that's unwanted and that we

[28:07] don't need. So I just wanted to ask you

[28:10] guys, would you please bless our

[28:11] community to help all the residents

[28:13] dealing with a galvanizing and the

[28:15] nuisance unwanted pavilion, please?

[28:18] Thank you so much. Thank you very much

[28:20] for coming.

[28:23] All right.

[28:26] Uh Willamina Shackleford, please.

[28:34] » Good evening.

[28:35] >> Willamina Shackle for 9656 here on

[28:38] first. I'm in agreement with Nancy and

[28:40] Bob. It is horrible and re lately it's

[28:44] just roars so loud. 3:00 am, four

[28:48] o'clock. It wakes you up and then you

[28:49] can't go back to sleep. They'll turn it

[28:51] off or turn it down maybe about 7:30, I

[28:54] guess, when they figure people or

[28:55] whatever's going on. But it's just been

[28:57] ridiculous. Just ridiculous. And we

[28:59] haven't really said a lot because, you

[29:02] know, that there were attorneys working

[29:03] on it. So, you know, we want to continue

[29:05] that. But we need the help of the city.

[29:07] So, I hope that that uh state statute

[29:09] will help. I got a couple other things

[29:11] real quick. Um, one is our park and I

[29:16] know when they redid the the uh the

[29:19] trail, but they didn't do anything to

[29:21] the park. Is that on Olivet? It's kind

[29:23] of bumpy. You know, it's the asphalt,

[29:25] the black that's in the actual park in

[29:28] Indian Meadows. So, it's kind of crumbly

[29:30] in some areas. So, the other concern is

[29:33] we have two spaces in uh the new park

[29:37] area that when it we get heavy rain,

[29:39] it's full of water. So the kids go out

[29:41] there and play. Then they muddy muddy up

[29:43] everything which is by the water park.

[29:46] And then the other area is by the

[29:48] playground area around one of the trees

[29:50] is set real low so if we can get that

[29:52] build back up so that the water won't

[29:54] set there. Um the other one is the

[29:57] trees. We have a lot of dead trees. I

[29:59] know they've cut some down but when we

[30:01] get any kind of a rain or wind, I should

[30:03] say wind, there's branches all over the

[30:06] park. And I realize it's more than one

[30:08] park. So sometimes it take them a while.

[30:10] But then the kids are playing and you

[30:11] got these big branches that are laying

[30:13] all over the park trail. Uh, one more

[30:15] thing. How chickens.

[30:19] We got the chicken coupoops gone from

[30:21] the side of the house, but there is a

[30:22] pin. So, I've asked over and over about

[30:25] an ordinance to be written so that I

[30:27] don't care about the chickens, but they

[30:28] need to be fenced in in the back of the

[30:30] house and not in the very front.

[30:34] This these chicken coops were on the

[30:36] front on the side of the home. and I've

[30:37] complained for a couple of years. And so

[30:40] it's my understanding that all of that

[30:42] has been washed aside. I don't know if

[30:44] anybody knows if that is true, but I'm

[30:46] going to I'm going to research it that

[30:48] that's over. The governor was is the one

[30:50] that uh approved that, but it's my

[30:54] understanding that they've been fighting

[30:55] it. So, I don't know. But if not, can we

[30:59] get an ordinance where they are are

[31:00] fenced in in the back? And then I think

[31:04] that's it. Um Oh. We have another area

[31:08] in our subdivision and I've complained

[31:09] about it several times. We need some

[31:11] help uh with uh enforcement of uh

[31:16] property upkeep. So, we got a lot of

[31:18] issues with that, but I understand we

[31:20] only have one part-time person

[31:23] and for this city, we could probably use

[31:25] one or two to just do property upkeep

[31:29] for the for uh all of the the entire uh

[31:34] et

[31:38] Bruce is here. Brand view on the corner

[31:40] of Grand View and La Hoya. There are

[31:44] huge papa trees that have grown out into

[31:47] the street. I've asked you can't even

[31:49] see the street sign. The the trees were

[31:51] trimmed back right at the sign, but of

[31:53] course they grow back. I'm asking that

[31:55] something be done about those trees

[31:57] because it's really a hindrance. If you

[31:59] are coming up to the stop sign and

[32:01] somebody's coming from the other

[32:02] direction, these trees are huge and they

[32:04] are actually in the street.

[32:07] You familiar with that? you know, been

[32:09] over there in

[32:10] >> Asia. It's still there. It's just worse.

[32:13] So, we have several areas where the

[32:15] trees are actually growing into the

[32:17] street, ground up, not just hanging

[32:19] over. So, they actually block traffic.

[32:23] >> That's it.

[32:23] >> Thank you very much.

[32:24] >> Appreciate it.

[32:27] >> All right. Uh Stephanie Chop.

[32:37] Hi. Uh, Stephanie Todd, 7 Heather Hill

[32:40] Lane. So, I'm here to support the

[32:43] residents um near Indian Meadows and

[32:46] their complaints about AZZ as an Olivet

[32:49] resident, but also I'm representing the

[32:51] Sierra Club and Dark Sky, Missouri who

[32:54] have who the they have also gotten

[32:57] involved in these issues. There are

[32:59] really three issues. Light trespass,

[33:03] potential air pollution, and noise. The

[33:06] light trespass that is occurring should

[33:08] be easy to take care of because St.

[33:10] Louis County already has an ordinance

[33:13] against it. So, it'd be really good if

[33:16] someone from Alvette notified the county

[33:20] that light trespass from AZ shining into

[33:24] residents houses, shining off the

[33:26] property into residents houses and ask

[33:30] az to shield their lights.

[33:33] No, air pollution and noise are more

[33:35] difficult. However, Olivet can do

[33:38] something about it. The residents have

[33:40] been complaining about AZ for at least

[33:42] two years. But they didn't give up. They

[33:45] found a regulation that cities can

[33:48] enforce ordinances up to a half mile

[33:51] outside their boundaries. Alvette needs

[33:54] to step up and support its citizens. The

[33:57] county does not have the necessary

[33:59] equipment to determine if ACC is

[34:02] emitting pollutants

[34:04] and to

[34:06] and and to identify the pollutants.

[34:09] However, the outside groups that that

[34:13] they're working with um they're trying

[34:16] to um install air monitors and analyze

[34:20] air samples and noise monitors. So, I

[34:23] encourage you to work with them to get

[34:26] data to back up their claims.

[34:30] Um, noise is a harder problem, but put

[34:33] yourself in these resident shoes. How

[34:35] would you like to hear a loud bang

[34:38] several times in the middle of the

[34:40] night?

[34:41] I'm asking you to find a way to stop the

[34:43] loud noise at night and determine if az

[34:46] is polluting the air and if they are to

[34:48] try to stop them. These problems should

[34:51] not be ignored and all of it can and

[34:53] should do something about them.

[34:55] >> Thank you very much. Appreciate your

[34:57] time.

[34:59] >> Right. Is there anyone else in the

[35:01] audience who wanted to speak?

[35:11] » Good evening.

[35:12] >> Evening.

[35:12] >> My name is Denise Williams. I live at

[35:15] 9600 Hiron Drive.

[35:19] I just have to say I live ac across the

[35:22] street from the park

[35:24] where

[35:27] all this noise

[35:29] have been going on for quite a while.

[35:34] And

[35:36] hearing this noise all day

[35:40] and throughout your time of rest

[35:46] is depreciating

[35:48] your livelihood.

[35:51] I'm 70 and I'm not getting any rest.

[35:54] I've retired to come home and enjoy the

[35:57] kids, enjoy my bed where I've been

[36:00] missing it for all this time. And then

[36:02] you come home and you're hearing all of

[36:06] this unnecessary

[36:08] noise that's not supposed to be a part

[36:11] of your life in Eloette.

[36:15] I used to call Alvette when I moved here

[36:18] sleepy hollow.

[36:20] Very quiet, very surreal.

[36:26] That has been stolen.

[36:29] And

[36:31] days and days and days have passed by

[36:35] and all of you all are sleeping

[36:38] comfortably while we're up in the I walk

[36:42] the trail three times a day. You hear

[36:44] it? It's supposed to be surreal on the

[36:48] um path. It's supposed to be something

[36:50] great that you all have done for the

[36:54] community.

[36:58] I don't think so.

[37:01] Cuz you're walking, you're smelling that

[37:03] stuff big

[37:06] just so much smoke it covers the whole

[37:10] park. The stench comes in your windows.

[37:15] You smell it at night.

[37:18] Not including the noise, but the smoke,

[37:21] the stench.

[37:25] So

[37:26] imagine, close your eyes and imagine

[37:29] that's how your days are going. Every

[37:32] day you got to deal with this every day.

[37:37] Your kids are inhaling this

[37:41] poison.

[37:43] We're at 70. They're cutting years off

[37:46] our lives smelling it. I'm sure cuz it's

[37:48] chemicals that we're absorbing into our

[37:52] bodies. the kids are absorbing over at

[37:55] the park that is so nice to have in the

[37:58] neighborhood, but it's being blown

[38:00] straight to hell.

[38:02] Their lives are being cut short.

[38:06] And

[38:07] you guys are

[38:11] when y'all sleep at night, just think

[38:14] your glory oliveette

[38:17] is causing suffering

[38:20] for a lot of of your community and we're

[38:25] just asking you to really take this to

[38:28] heart and understand what we're dealing

[38:30] with.

[38:32] Thank you.

[38:32] >> Thank you very much for coming.

[38:34] Appreciate it.

[38:37] All right. Anyone else in the audience

[38:39] wish to speak?

[38:42] Is there anyone online? Please raise

[38:44] your hand.

[38:50] All right. Thank you for everyone for

[38:52] your comments. Sincerely appreciate it.

[38:55] All right. We are going to move on now

[38:56] to item nine. Bill 3066. Could we please

[39:00] have the title be read? Bill 3066, an

[39:03] ordinance authorizing a special permit

[39:04] usage for O3BP Associates LLC, owners of

[39:08] the property grounds, addressed as 9600

[39:10] and 9606 Olive Boulevard, to permit

[39:13] Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an

[39:15] outdoor display and storage area on the

[39:18] east parking lot portion associated with

[39:19] their tenant space addressed as 9612

[39:22] Olive Boulevard. Second reading.

[39:24] >> Thank you.

[39:29] Good evening, mayor, members of the

[39:31] council. My name is Carlos Trejo. I'm

[39:32] the director of planning and community

[39:34] development, and I'm requesting a second

[39:36] reading call for action for uh this

[39:39] bill. We had our public hearing on

[39:40] August 11th. Be glad to answer any

[39:42] questions, and we do have a

[39:43] representative in attendance if

[39:44] necessary.

[39:46] >> The only question I had is I think there

[39:48] was a an ask to look at and I think

[39:50] council man had asked about it like in

[39:52] terms of the location, could it be

[39:53] wedged into the corner in the back or

[39:55] anything like that? Was that feasible?

[39:57] Um, in terms of the drawing, if I'm

[39:59] remembering correctly,

[40:01] >> that was related if like parking was an

[40:03] issue.

[40:04] >> Yeah.

[40:04] >> If that and and that may be something

[40:06] that needs to be looked at if it becomes

[40:09] an issue or not.

[40:10] >> That's fine.

[40:10] >> Um, and but I I think that's what we

[40:14] were talking about.

[40:14] >> That is correct. Okay.

[40:15] >> That's my understanding.

[40:16] >> Yeah. And I guess my question is a

[40:18] procedural question related um just with

[40:21] us being a fairly new council. Should

[40:23] there be an issue that becomes apparent

[40:26] with parking um or traffic movement with

[40:31] the location safety um what what is the

[40:35] process for if if we approve the special

[40:38] permit as it is tonight but realize that

[40:40] it is not functioning in in the way that

[40:44] we intended it to.

[40:46] >> We'll engage with the uh first engage

[40:48] with the applicant or the petitioner

[40:49] that operates a special use permit. see

[40:52] what we can try to mitigate what is out

[40:54] there, get a better understanding, uh

[40:56] then ultimately report back to the

[40:58] council. The council does have the right

[40:59] to revoke a permit uh if it finds that

[41:03] there is some val validation to the

[41:04] concerns that are expressed

[41:08] » question. How do we define parking

[41:10] issues? Like what do we consider that to

[41:12] be?

[41:12] >> That's a very good question. I mean that site I would assume uh that there

[41:17] will be some type of reported incident

[41:18] on Olive or so. But if somebody just

[41:21] can't find a parking space on a specific

[41:23] date uh you know they can bring that

[41:25] information we can try to log it and

[41:26] record it. But you know it would have to

[41:28] be something that that's known uh in

[41:32] there and then the the process that we

[41:33] had today of the people speaking before

[41:35] the council noting concerns or issues

[41:37] gets it on the record. I imagine that

[41:39] makes

[41:39] >> well and I imagine if the city got

[41:41] notified we that could be brought

[41:43] forward to us but I think about

[41:44] hypothetically a certain parking lot you

[41:46] know south of us at the end of 170 I

[41:48] hear people complain about you know all

[41:49] the time it's like you if we hear about

[41:51] citizens something we can bring up too

[41:52] hopefully it's not an issue and

[41:55] >> ultimately that it is I mean we will

[41:57] report back to the council the council

[41:59] has you know if there's a consensus that

[42:01] it is an issue I would assume the

[42:03] council holds the authority to revoke

[42:06] the permit or push

[42:07] >> modify

[42:08] solution.

[42:10] >> And we talked about Dobs only using the

[42:12] first row of parking, right?

[42:16] >> That is a private agreement, I believe,

[42:17] that they have with the property owner

[42:19] that they're supposed to be using only

[42:20] that.

[42:21] >> Okay. That's not a city enforcable.

[42:23] >> It wasn't anything that we we put in

[42:24] into our our contingencies or so because

[42:27] that's more again that's open parking

[42:30] for this.

[42:31] >> Okay.

[42:32] >> Is the parking lot itself owned by one

[42:35] parcel or another? It's the best the

[42:38] best of my understanding it's all owned

[42:39] by uh or the O3BP Associates which

[42:44] operates as Biano Properties. They have

[42:47] the the ownership of all the grounds and

[42:48] then dos leases from them in there. I

[42:51] know there are like three different

[42:53] parcels identified by county but it's

[42:55] one large site.

[42:57] >> Okay.

[43:00] >> All right.

[43:00] >> And then this is uh fairly random and I

[43:04] do apologize. I did not send this

[43:06] question to you ahead of time. Has there

[43:07] been any consideration with the little

[43:10] driveway, not driveway, but

[43:13] uh right ofway area in the front of that

[43:16] building where you have a curb cut on

[43:18] one side, a curve cut on the other side.

[43:20] Has there been any consideration to

[43:22] closing that driveway? This obviously is

[43:27] bigger than this particular special use

[43:30] permit, but through

[43:32] >> it's it's one of those it's a long-term

[43:34] discussion. We put together the council

[43:36] had authorized the uh us to do the

[43:39] olivet uh boulevard uh conceptual master

[43:43] plan and it identified uh you know areas

[43:46] and that that's one of the sides.

[43:47] Unfortunately with the curvature of the

[43:49] road is one problem. The intersections

[43:52] of the opposite streets on the north

[43:54] side is another problem. and then none

[43:56] of the aprons align. Um, easy solution

[44:00] is to place a median. That resolve all

[44:01] the problems, but I'm sure you'll hear a

[44:03] lot about that uh in there. Uh, but over

[44:06] time working with those property owners,

[44:08] we made them familiar with with the

[44:10] concept. Uh, ultimately, you know, and

[44:12] we've had discussions about, you know,

[44:15] kind of nudging them to think think

[44:17] ahead of reassessing the whole parking

[44:20] layout on the the shopping center. It's

[44:22] a it's tough. It's something I got, you

[44:24] know, we're, you know, 1963 that was a

[44:27] determination of how that layout was was

[44:29] put in place and whether they looked at

[44:31] the the external factors and what was

[44:33] across the street. I can't tell you

[44:35] that. But, uh, it it, you know, I guess

[44:40] we've made them aware. They know that

[44:41] there are issues. They're looking at

[44:43] some formal way that maybe

[44:46] uh over time that we can kind of like

[44:48] reshift or consolidate that but it get

[44:51] becomes expensive and that becomes the

[44:53] key question. Is it all on their dime or

[44:55] is it something that we collaborate with

[44:57] them and partner with uh in that

[44:59] process? If you go back to the catalyst

[45:01] tragedy uh another uh you know uh report

[45:04] that the council funded uh and there why

[45:06] it didn't go the full extent uh to old

[45:09] bonum road you know it talked about

[45:11] creating some type of uh traffic uh uh improvement district or or

[45:17] transportation improvement district to

[45:18] look at means of getting that you know

[45:22] re well it needs to be reassessed in

[45:24] terms of where are the best points of

[45:27] entry uh in there and and internal

[45:30] circulations are going to be also need

[45:32] to be looked at and of course the

[45:33] streetscape enhancements. So I hope that

[45:36] kind of addresses it. I mean it is as

[45:38] long as I my response to you

[45:40] >> probably another night for

[45:44] >> but I think it can be done within within

[45:46] you know you know the the plan's

[45:48] horizon.

[45:50] >> All right, any other questions?

[45:53] >> I'll entertain a motion. I'll make a

[45:55] motion to approve bill 3066, an

[45:58] ordinance authorizing a special permit

[46:00] use for the O3 BP Associates LLC, owners

[46:05] of the property grounds addressed at

[46:07] 9600 and 9606 Alla Boulevard to permit

[46:11] Rick's Ace Hardware to operate an

[46:13] outdoor display and storage area on the

[46:16] east parking lot portion associated with

[46:18] their tenant space addressed as 9612

[46:22] Olive Boulevard.

[46:23] >> Second. All right. Motion made by

[46:25] Council Member Jagos, second by Council

[46:27] Member Clark. Can we please pull to

[46:29] council?

[46:30] >> Council member Juel.

[46:31] >> Yes.

[46:31] >> Council member Solomonov.

[46:32] >> Yes.

[46:33] >> Council member Clark.

[46:34] >> Yes.

[46:34] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

[46:36] >> Yes.

[46:36] >> Mayor Lewis.

[46:37] >> Yes.

[46:38] >> The motion is passed. Bill 3066 becomes

[46:40] ordinance 2836.

[46:43] >> Thank you. We'll move on to I think it's

[46:45] the Carlos show tonight, right? Move on

[46:47] to item 10. Bill 3067. Will you please

[46:49] have the title be read? Bill 3067, an

[46:52] ordinance authorizing a special permit

[46:53] usage for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the

[46:57] property grounds, addressed as 10401

[47:00] Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced

[47:02] driver assistance systems to operate an

[47:04] indoor automotive repair facility within

[47:06] the tenants space addressed as 10401

[47:09] Bower Boulevard, Sweet B. Second

[47:11] reading.

[47:13] >> Mayor, again, this was uh read at at our

[47:16] previous meeting on August 11th along

[47:18] with a public hearing. be glad to answer

[47:19] any specific questions. We do have a

[47:21] representative, Mr. Corbin, and I

[47:22] believe one of the operators uh in

[47:24] attendance.

[47:27] >> I didn't have any questions. I think we

[47:28] covered it last time as far as I'm

[47:30] concerned. Does anyone have any

[47:31] questions?

[47:34] Not to discredit. I think the work was

[47:35] great last time, so we got our answer.

[47:37] So, it's a very interesting new property

[47:39] to have. No. All right. Then, if anyone

[47:43] doesn't have any questions, um I'll

[47:45] entertain a motion. I'd like to make a

[47:48] motion to approve bill 3067, an

[47:50] ordinance authorizing a special permit

[47:52] use for PPM Bower LLC, owners of the

[47:55] property grounds addressed at 10401

[47:57] Bower Boulevard, to permit advanced

[48:00] driver assistance systems to operate an

[48:02] indoor automotive repair facility within

[48:04] the tennis space addressed at 1041 Bower

[48:08] Boulevard, Sweet B.

[48:11] >> Second.

[48:12] >> All right. U motion's been made and a

[48:14] second. Can we please pull the council?

[48:16] member Dragal,

[48:17] >> yes.

[48:17] >> Council member Solammanov,

[48:19] >> yes.

[48:19] >> Council member Clark,

[48:20] >> yes.

[48:20] >> Chairman Proemp, Shan Halman,

[48:22] >> yes.

[48:22] >> Mayor Lewis,

[48:23] >> yes.

[48:24] >> Motion is passed. Bill 3067 becomes

[48:26] ordinance 2837.

[48:28] >> All right, moving on to item 11, please.

[48:30] Bill 3068. Can we please

[48:33] >> have the title read?

[48:34] >> Bill 3068, an ordinance reaffirming and

[48:37] adopting chapter 115, article 3, section

[48:39] 115.080 080 to 115.120

[48:43] conflict of interest for the city of

[48:45] Alvette, Missouri municipal code and

[48:47] establishing a procedure to disclose

[48:49] potential conflicts of interest and

[48:50] substantial interests for certain

[48:52] municipal officials. Second reading

[48:55] >> so we covered this last time procedural

[48:57] that we need to do this.

[48:59] >> That's correct.

[48:59] >> All right. I did not have any questions.

[49:01] Did anyone on the council?

[49:03] >> I had none.

[49:04] >> All right. Then I will entertain a

[49:06] motion. Make a motion to approve bill

[49:09] 3068,

[49:11] an ordinance reaffirming and adopting

[49:13] chapter 115, article 3, section 115.080

[49:18] through 115.120,

[49:21] conflict of interest of the city of

[49:23] Alvette, Missouri municipal code, and

[49:25] establishing a procedure to disclose

[49:27] potential conflicts of interest and

[49:29] substantial interests for certain

[49:31] municipal officials.

[49:33] >> All right, we hear a second.

[49:35] >> Second.

[49:35] >> All right. Can we please pull the

[49:37] council?

[49:38] >> Council member Duel.

[49:39] >> Yes.

[49:39] >> Council member Solomonov,

[49:41] >> yes.

[49:41] >> Council member Clark,

[49:42] >> yes.

[49:42] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

[49:44] >> Yes.

[49:44] >> Mayor Lewis,

[49:45] >> yes.

[49:46] >> Motion is passed. Bill 3068 becomes

[49:48] ordinance 2838.

[49:51] >> Right. We'll move on to item 12. Bill

[49:54] 3069. Can we please have the title be

[49:56] read?

[49:57] >> Bill 3069, an ordinance granting an

[49:59] easement to Spire for the installation

[50:01] of an underground gas man at 9201 Olive.

[50:03] Second reading.

[50:05] Good evening, mayor and council members.

[50:07] Um, great news today. This buyer was on

[50:10] site to finally begin relocating that

[50:12] 2-in high-pressure man. Um, any

[50:15] questions about our discussion from a

[50:17] couple weeks ago or thoughts since then

[50:19] about the wonderful world underneath our

[50:21] pavement [laughter]

[50:24] >> when you put it that way.

[50:26] >> Okay.

[50:26] >> Got a lot of questions. Yeah,

[50:28] >> I do not. I mean, nothing new to add

[50:31] from the

[50:31] >> Okay, so very good.

[50:32] >> Yeah. Nothing yet.

[50:34] >> Anyone? All right, then. I'll entertain

[50:38] a motion,

[50:40] I guess. Do we have a motion on this

[50:41] directly or We do have a motion, right?

[50:44] >> Yeah.

[50:46] >> So, do do we need just reward it to

[50:48] approve this?

[50:48] >> Yeah. Um, you should just word it as a

[50:51] motion to approve bill number 3069, etc.

[50:55] I would like to make a motion

[50:56] >> for bill 3069, an ordinance, an

[50:59] ordinance granting an easement to spire

[51:02] for the installation of an underground

[51:03] gas m.

[51:04] >> I second that.

[51:05] >> All right. Motion made and seconded. Can

[51:07] we please pull the council?

[51:10] >> Council member Duel.

[51:11] >> Yes.

[51:11] >> Council member Solomonov.

[51:12] >> Yes.

[51:13] >> Council member Clark.

[51:14] >> Yes.

[51:14] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Halman.

[51:16] >> Yes.

[51:16] >> Mayor Lewis.

[51:17] >> Yes.

[51:17] >> Motion is passed. Bill 3069 becomes

[51:19] ordinance 2839.

[51:21] >> Thank you very much.

[51:22] >> Thank you. Good luck.

[51:25] All right, move on to item 13. Bill

[51:27] 3070. If we could please have the title

[51:29] be read.

[51:34] Bill 3070, an ordinance authorizing a

[51:36] special permit use for AC Richardson

[51:38] LLC, owners of the property grounds,

[51:40] addressed as 1215 Dealman Industrial

[51:42] Court, to permit SSM Health Health

[51:45] Cardinal Glennon Pediatric Therapy, to

[51:47] operate a 4566qt

[51:50] medical clinic within the tenant space

[51:52] addressed as 9375 DM Industrial Drive.

[51:54] First reading and public hearing.

[51:56] >> All right. As part of this public

[51:57] hearing, I'm going to go ahead and open

[51:58] up the public hearing for this bill. And

[52:01] good evening, Max.

[52:02] >> Yeah, welcome back.

[52:02] >> Thank you. Uh my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm

[52:04] the director of planning and community

[52:06] development for the city of Alvette. And

[52:07] tonight I'm here to present bill 3070,

[52:10] which is a special permit use request

[52:12] for uh medical offices and clinics at

[52:14] 9375 Dilman Industrial Drive. The next

[52:17] slide will kind of show the location.

[52:19] It's at the corner of Dilman Industrial

[52:21] Drive and Dilman Industrial Court, which

[52:23] is on the lower left hand corner of of

[52:25] the parcel. It's a corner parcel uh in

[52:28] there. It's about 3 and 12 acres. The

[52:30] building itself which you see the Lshape

[52:32] and the white roof there is roughly

[52:34] 31,596

[52:37] ft. It's a multi-tenant office

[52:38] warehouse. You might be familiar with

[52:40] the uh the the artery is located in

[52:43] there along with uh the USGS uh is

[52:46] located in that facility. Uh the

[52:48] proposed uses of medical office and

[52:49] clinics and since this is light

[52:51] industrial uh medical offices and

[52:53] clinics are identified in the permitted

[52:55] uses but only as a special permit and

[52:58] that is why SSM health cardinal linen is

[53:00] here before you. It's zone L light

[53:02] industrial district and it is authorized

[53:05] uh as a uh special permit use in the LI

[53:08] district. Uh the next slide

[53:11] uh kind of talks about the special

[53:12] permit procedure where we try to uh

[53:16] facilitate and then further our vision

[53:17] and goals with the comprehensive plan

[53:19] which we hope is reflective of our

[53:21] ordinances in the CO district but allows

[53:23] us to look at the potential impact the district itself the comp plan sites

[53:28] uh sustainability the surrounding

[53:30] impacts and then the council rights to

[53:33] buffer uh required from additional

[53:36] improvements and imposed some open space

[53:38] requirements. ments and to uh consider

[53:41] uh some limitations like in hours and things of that nature. It goes to

[53:45] our planning and community design

[53:46] commission for review and a

[53:49] recommendation and then a council holds

[53:50] the public hearing and then considers

[53:52] actions via an ordinance. On the next

[53:55] slide, just a couple of things regarding

[53:57] special permit uses. There are some

[53:58] general conditions that are outlined

[54:00] with our ordinance. Those are that is it

[54:02] listed in the district? Does it further

[54:03] the comprehensive plan? Uh is it the

[54:06] location the parcel suitable for the

[54:08] environment surroundings? Is it

[54:09] complementaryary to the surroundings in

[54:11] the neighborhood and the improvements?

[54:13] Uh did they demonstrate mitigation to

[54:15] any potential spillover effects? And

[54:17] then of course it gives the city the

[54:18] authority to grant buffering designate

[54:20] areas for uh open space limit set

[54:23] limitations on operations implementation

[54:25] schedules meaning like over time they

[54:27] need to do this and consider adequacy of

[54:30] public services. The next slide we'll

[54:32] get into the nuts and bolts. This is a

[54:34] street view of the building facility.

[54:36] They'll be taking that front corner that

[54:37] you see there. It's approximately I I

[54:40] believe it's a little over 4,500 square

[54:42] f feet. We'll get to that specifically

[54:44] uh in a second. Uh Dilman Industrial

[54:47] Drive is on the right hand side. Dilman

[54:50] Industrial Court is on the left hand

[54:51] side. Dilman Industrial Court is just a

[54:53] short street uh that leads directly to a

[54:55] building that's in the background there.

[54:57] The next slide,

[54:59] this is the the uh just the tenant

[55:02] improvement plans that they're proposing

[55:03] uh that kind of exist in the existing

[55:05] site ground. It is a 4500 ft² building I

[55:08] believe. Um they are when you look at it

[55:11] in comparison to the overall building

[55:13] which is about 3200 feet, 3200 32,000

[55:17] ft². Uh they're a little bit of around

[55:19] an eighth of the whole building uh in

[55:21] there. And you can see the corner area

[55:22] that they'll be taking up their space.

[55:24] It's kind of proportion to the the size

[55:26] on on the uh on the plan. The next slide

[55:32] will identify what are they doing. It's

[55:34] a 4,566

[55:35] square foot outpatient physical therapy

[55:37] clinic, pediatric therapy clinic. Uh the

[55:40] clinic provides multiddisciplinary

[55:42] therapy for physical therapy,

[55:44] occupational therapy, and speech therapy

[55:46] at their site. Uh they currently operate

[55:48] in Creve Corore and they're relocating

[55:50] to etc which is great. Uh the next slide

[55:53] uh kind of goes over the commission did

[55:55] review it and they motioned to recommend

[55:58] to the council that the uh council

[55:59] consider and approve authorization of

[56:01] the special permit. They use of course

[56:03] the comprehensive plan, our community

[56:04] goals in their review. Uh we look at the

[56:07] principles for economic development and

[56:09] our comprehensive update goals which is

[56:10] environmental sustainability investment,

[56:13] crime prevention, native plantings and

[56:15] strategic redevelopment. And you can see

[56:17] the check boxes as we go through in

[56:19] there to complete those boxes. Of

[56:21] course, they are asking uh for some

[56:23] additional landscaping along the Dealman

[56:25] Industrial Drive uh component, which is

[56:27] the west side uh when you enter from the

[56:28] stop sign area uh to replace exterior

[56:31] wallpack lights with those compatible

[56:33] with chapter 428, meaning that they're

[56:34] cut off facing down uh and there. And

[56:36] then to limit the hours of operation

[56:38] from 7:30 a.m. to 6:30 p.m. That's done

[56:40] in collaboration with the petitioner.

[56:42] And the concern was because it's a

[56:44] pediatric facility just to make sure

[56:46] that uh they're not interrupting or um

[56:49] throughout the evening or when we have

[56:51] industrial traffic.

[56:53] On the next slide, mayor, if I can enter

[56:54] a couple of items just for the record.

[56:56] Uh, our 2024 comprehensive plan update,

[56:58] including the 5-year economic

[57:00] development plan, the Alvette municipal

[57:02] code and zoning map, uh, the staff

[57:04] presentation and memorandum that was

[57:06] presented to the planning and community

[57:07] design commission dated July 23rd, 2026,

[57:10] including the petition and supporting

[57:12] plans and documents. Our public hearing

[57:14] notice, this is a public hearing. We

[57:16] were required to post this 15 days prior

[57:18] uh to tonight and that was posted in the county in St. Louis County on August

[57:24] 10th, 2026. And you have a list of the

[57:26] properties that were notified. Uh we did

[57:28] 300 ft which is above and beyond the 185

[57:31] called by code. Uh and then this

[57:33] presentation before the city council.

[57:36] So mayor, I'd be glad to answer any

[57:37] specific questions and then we do have

[57:39] representatives here I'd like to

[57:40] introduce.

[57:41] >> What's what was their current

[57:42] previously? what was who occupied? Uh it

[57:46] was an engineering firm I believe was

[57:48] the last uh firm that was there

[57:50] >> and it they're going to be if you don't

[57:52] mind going back to the uh overlay of the

[57:54] office they're going to be doing

[57:55] outpatient

[57:56] um I guess so patients come in and are

[58:00] seen there or is the expectation but

[58:03] because these are these cubes I guess

[58:05] I'm just wondering where where that

[58:06] occurs

[58:06] >> kind of like shows the internal layout I

[58:08] think there's going to be some changes

[58:09] and modifications I think that's what it

[58:11] looks like right now uh in there so they

[58:13] haven't applied but but yes they do

[58:15] one-on-one therapies with uh individual

[58:17] clients, pediatrics, of course. Uh in

[58:20] there, probably a question that can

[58:21] better address than I could on the

[58:23] description.

[58:24] >> Um before we bring them up, other

[58:25] questions people have or

[58:27] >> I had the same question.

[58:28] >> Yeah, I don't have it.

[58:30] >> I had a question on the hours. So,

[58:32] pediatric means all the way through 18,

[58:34] right? So, is the city limiting the

[58:37] hours or is that something that SSM is

[58:39] choosing?

[58:40] >> We talked with SSM about what hours and

[58:42] in there and that was within that range.

[58:44] which I think they they close at 5:30.

[58:46] Something we can check with them again.

[58:48] >> Okay. Okay.

[58:50] >> And then I was just curious, I don't see

[58:51] a landscape plan here yet, but um want

[58:54] to be clear about the area that this

[58:57] business would be working,

[59:00] >> like what part of the parcel they would

[59:02] be working on to improve the landscaping

[59:05] and hopefully get some trees out there

[59:07] and native plants, something other than

[59:09] just the turf. Um, and then also curious

[59:13] if there's going to be any signage on

[59:16] that corner there or that little kind of

[59:20] >> Mhm.

[59:21] >> park that pokes out on the corner.

[59:24] >> Um, if there's any kind of signage that

[59:26] they're

[59:27] >> We can go one slide back. Uh, Miss Yak,

[59:30] uh, on the right hand side, you'll see

[59:32] Deman Industrial Drive. That's where

[59:34] we're asking for some additional

[59:35] landscaping to be placed in there with

[59:37] 50% of that being native. The one thing

[59:39] along this corner both going north

[59:42] [snorts] you know where I'm when you're

[59:44] looking at that right road you are going

[59:48] north to south uh on the left you're

[59:50] going east to west uh on both portions

[59:54] of the road and you can see some of the the fiber indication there's fiber

[59:57] and underground utilities all running

[59:59] through uh through there where I have

[1:00:02] the most excess of rightway believe it

[1:00:04] or not is going to be on the western

[1:00:06] side this used to be an easement and

[1:00:08] that's where I believe maybe that's why

[1:00:10] there was no sidewalk or landscaping uh

[1:00:12] in place. When the city took over the

[1:00:13] roads, we took over just a significant

[1:00:16] portion. A lot of times the parking

[1:00:18] would have been further back, we would

[1:00:19] have more area for landscaping and and

[1:00:22] things of that nature. So, we're looking

[1:00:23] here on the right hand side as you can

[1:00:25] go uh north to south that they do some

[1:00:28] uh some additional landscaping uh in

[1:00:30] their trees to be careful. probably

[1:00:33] preference would be more ornamental, but

[1:00:35] nothing that's going to be deeprooted

[1:00:36] because they're going to there's

[1:00:38] continue a matter of fact uh there was

[1:00:40] markings uh this morning again that

[1:00:42] somebody's running some type of fiber

[1:00:44] optics or things uh of that nature. So,

[1:00:46] it continuously gets torn out, but we'd

[1:00:49] like to get them more towards uh on the

[1:00:52] western or the eastern part of that hump

[1:00:54] as you see in the the grading uh in

[1:00:57] there to kind of hide some of the

[1:00:58] parking

[1:01:00] in there. We didn't look at the north as

[1:01:02] they're kind of more facing towards

[1:01:04] Olive uh in there. But again, I know I

[1:01:06] have a lot of uh

[1:01:09] utility stuff that runs uh underneath

[1:01:11] and the sidewalk kind of extends more

[1:01:13] along that area uh in there, but it

[1:01:15] could be discussion we can have with the

[1:01:17] property owner. In terms of signage, no

[1:01:19] signage has been proposed.

[1:01:20] Traditionally, the signage has been uh

[1:01:22] on the wall in there. I anticipate that

[1:01:25] they will continue to do so. I know

[1:01:27] ImageNet, which is also located on that

[1:01:29] building at the far uh left end uh which

[1:01:33] would be the eastern end of the building

[1:01:35] does have a monument sign at that back

[1:01:36] corner. So if they do another one, they

[1:01:39] have to place it uh towards the other

[1:01:42] apron uh in there. So I don't anticipate

[1:01:44] anything towards the front.

[1:01:46] >> Okay. And my questions are twofold. One,

[1:01:50] obviously to increase our environmental

[1:01:52] sustainability and to have plantings

[1:01:54] along that um area as much as possible

[1:01:58] that not only are good for the

[1:02:00] environment but can also provide shade

[1:02:02] um and reduce the heat on that um

[1:02:05] asphalt parking lot. Um, and then the

[1:02:09] other piece with Oh, and safety as well

[1:02:12] because you're going to have kids in

[1:02:14] that parking lot and obviously it's

[1:02:15] worst case scenario thinking that

[1:02:17] somebody's jump going to jump the curb

[1:02:18] and go over, you know, that's obviously

[1:02:20] worst case scenario, but any buffer

[1:02:22] >> uh that we can put in there is a good

[1:02:24] one. Um, and the same concern with

[1:02:26] safety for signage. Um just so that when

[1:02:29] we've got parents who are looking for

[1:02:31] the facility that it's clear and we

[1:02:33] don't have kind of that driving around

[1:02:36] trying to find it because it is you know

[1:02:38] somewhat tucked down um

[1:02:42] back behind there just so that it's it's

[1:02:44] clearly clearly seen and visible um for

[1:02:47] your visitors for your patients and

[1:02:49] their families.

[1:02:50] >> It's something we can look at and

[1:02:52] discuss with it. And again, I just want

[1:02:53] to be clear in terms of the the two on

[1:02:57] the first comp component of that, the

[1:02:58] sustainability aspect as we're looking

[1:03:01] at some of the the plantings and the

[1:03:03] native species, the concern would be on

[1:03:05] the trees being too too big in there

[1:03:07] because of the

[1:03:09] >> uh because of the utilities that run on

[1:03:12] that north side. Now, right here where

[1:03:14] the bench is set, there is more depth

[1:03:16] and I think it's the parking stall

[1:03:17] length and we can talk with them if

[1:03:19] that's an area that they could do more

[1:03:20] of the shade aspect of it as opposed to

[1:03:23] the decorative part component of it.

[1:03:25] >> Yeah. And even if it was native bushes

[1:03:26] or something that it would help and put

[1:03:29] that barrier

[1:03:30] >> is the you know the white and orange

[1:03:32] pole that you can see in the front of

[1:03:35] the picture but then also on that right

[1:03:37] side there is that the marking for the

[1:03:39] fiber optic cable

[1:03:40] >> one of the companies

[1:03:42] >> I would assume it doesn't represent all

[1:03:44] of the companies and then you can see

[1:03:45] the little square in there represents

[1:03:47] somebody's vault

[1:03:49] >> to get in in that space. So is the idea

[1:03:52] being though that the general location

[1:03:54] of those lines is approximately on the

[1:03:57] right side approximately the same as

[1:04:00] what we can see in the in the foreground

[1:04:02] of the image

[1:04:03] >> at least for the ones that are marked.

[1:04:04] Yes.

[1:04:04] >> Okay.

[1:04:06] >> Yeah. And unfortunately they're usually

[1:04:08] about 2 feet below below grade which is

[1:04:11] not much when you kind of think about

[1:04:12] it.

[1:04:15] Okay.

[1:04:15] >> Why don't we bring the petitioner?

[1:04:19] you ask questions.

[1:04:28] » How are you?

[1:04:29] >> Good. Hello.

[1:04:30] >> My name is Lara Masters. I'm a regional

[1:04:32] director for um SSM Health Cardinal

[1:04:34] Glenn and Pediatric Therapy. Thank you

[1:04:36] for letting us be here today.

[1:04:39] >> Happy to answer any questions.

[1:04:41] >> And I'm Ann Hug. I'm the vice president

[1:04:43] of operations for the company.

[1:04:45] >> Um yeah, I think the question we had is

[1:04:46] just the layout. it patients will be

[1:04:49] seen in there and

[1:04:50] >> is it is it just kind of open like your

[1:04:52] counseling so it is cubes or is it

[1:04:54] actually like private facility or how

[1:04:56] what what kind of things you know are

[1:04:58] happening usually

[1:04:58] >> there'll be an open space like a gym for

[1:05:01] more like physical therapy but we we'll

[1:05:04] probably have I mean I would say seven

[1:05:07] or eight individual treatment rooms that

[1:05:09] are more where speech therapists would

[1:05:11] work with individual patient

[1:05:14] >> so this is not necessarily what the

[1:05:15] layout

[1:05:15] >> this is this is what it looks like now

[1:05:17] we to do something different with it.

[1:05:20] Um, so where there'd be, you know,

[1:05:22] individual treatment rooms, again,

[1:05:24] they're not big, but they're

[1:05:25] >> Yeah,

[1:05:27] and there Yep.

[1:05:28] >> The treatment rooms will be around the

[1:05:30] perimeter and the gym space would be in

[1:05:31] the middle.

[1:05:32] >> Okay. For actual PT itself and things

[1:05:34] like that.

[1:05:35] >> Yep.

[1:05:35] >> Okay.

[1:05:36] >> Will it be possible to have uh the

[1:05:39] drawing of how how you envision this?

[1:05:41] it. I think it's just very helpful for

[1:05:43] us to actually have the drawing in front

[1:05:45] of us as opposed to each of our brains

[1:05:48] kind of thinking what it might look

[1:05:50] like.

[1:05:50] >> I have I have we have a clinic that's

[1:05:53] very similar in size in Ronnie's Plaza

[1:05:56] and I have that drawing that I can share

[1:05:58] with you that we will use that that kind

[1:06:02] of design for this space. So I can I

[1:06:05] would be would love to share that with

[1:06:06] you. bring that for the second reading

[1:06:07] or for Carla M the Trey House has

[1:06:09] probably forward it to us

[1:06:11] >> and this is eventually going to go to

[1:06:13] planning and zoning once if this is

[1:06:16] approved and then they'll have the full

[1:06:19] sets of drawings and landscape plans and

[1:06:22] things like that. Is that correct?

[1:06:24] >> No.

[1:06:26] >> Oh yeah. I want to see it now.

[1:06:28] >> No, it would be more regarding the use

[1:06:29] and the the operations of the use. The improvements would be internal uh in

[1:06:34] there. So that generally that would go

[1:06:36] back to the commission for for review.

[1:06:38] Uh there was a code and the the number

[1:06:40] of exits and the use is going to dictate

[1:06:42] what how that space

[1:06:44] >> how people geointer currently is not

[1:06:46] necessarily our

[1:06:47] >> in terms of landscaping. Yes, the

[1:06:48] commissioner was comfortable with it

[1:06:49] administratively you know that as long

[1:06:51] as they submit some type of landscaping

[1:06:53] uh in there and then set the condition

[1:06:56] of the 50% native.

[1:06:57] >> Yes.

[1:06:57] >> Uh in there gives us the guidance of

[1:06:59] what they're looking for. Okay, I

[1:07:01] understand.

[1:07:02] >> And that just be helpful if you send an

[1:07:03] example just so we can, you know,

[1:07:05] visualize it. Appreciate it.

[1:07:07] >> Like before the second, you' like

[1:07:09] >> forward it to Mr. Trey, he can forward

[1:07:10] it to us and then we'll have it before

[1:07:11] the second and just helps us visual.

[1:07:13] Again, it's your internal not ours. But,

[1:07:15] uh, just that's where I was struggling.

[1:07:17] I'm like, I don't understand.

[1:07:18] >> What is it? You know,

[1:07:20] >> hey, I'm like, it's your your your

[1:07:22] business,

[1:07:23] >> you know.

[1:07:23] >> Yeah. Thank you. But I do think having

[1:07:25] that information, you know, I know you have presented this to the PCDC a

[1:07:30] few months ago. Um, and so like the the

[1:07:33] understanding that for a landscaping

[1:07:35] plan has been kind of out there for a

[1:07:37] little bit. So it would be nice to see

[1:07:39] some movement towards getting a clearer

[1:07:41] sense of what that is as well as what

[1:07:44] your layout internally is before the

[1:07:47] second reading.

[1:07:48] >> Okay.

[1:07:48] >> So that we're really clear on what what

[1:07:50] we're approving. Um,

[1:07:52] >> Sure. And I'm I'm thrilled to like my

[1:07:54] hesitancy is not anything about this

[1:07:56] business or anything. I'm I think it's a

[1:07:58] good use. I think it's

[1:08:00] >> um great uh to have this here and all of

[1:08:03] it. And I'd like to have a clear sense

[1:08:05] of what we're approving before we

[1:08:07] approve it.

[1:08:08] >> Sure.

[1:08:10] >> All right. Thank you very much.

[1:08:12] Appreciate it.

[1:08:13] >> Happy to be here. Thank you.

[1:08:14] >> Did you have

[1:08:15] >> Yeah, I had just one comment. U I'm Drew

[1:08:18] Clary with Intel. I work with the

[1:08:21] landlord on this building. I just had a quick comment question on the the

[1:08:27] conditions of the landscaping. Um, so

[1:08:29] Carlos mentioned there's some fiber

[1:08:31] optic optic cables that run on the

[1:08:34] inside or just on the outside of the

[1:08:36] sidewalk. Um, there's there's a very

[1:08:39] similar one just on the other side. You

[1:08:41] can't see it, but it's right there in

[1:08:43] front of a manhole. Um, would it be

[1:08:46] beneficial at all if we did more

[1:08:48] landscaping right where that park bench

[1:08:50] is

[1:08:51] instead of along the the western

[1:08:54] barrier?

[1:08:56] My view is more landscaping anywhere is

[1:08:58] good. Like so as many native or this

[1:09:02] council is generally I won't speak for

[1:09:03] everyone but it's generally in favor of

[1:09:04] native plants and beautifying and just

[1:09:06] adding sustainability. So um there's

[1:09:08] many many ways to attack that. So I

[1:09:10] think um yeah, we have to be sensitive

[1:09:12] to the cabling and not get in the way of

[1:09:14] utilities and trees and things like

[1:09:16] that. So we're not in any way saying,

[1:09:17] "Oh, no, just put trees everywhere."

[1:09:18] It's what are the best use of native

[1:09:20] plants sustainability that are

[1:09:22] aesthetically looking that are good

[1:09:24] maintenance, you know, and see and and I

[1:09:27] think it's just seeing what would look

[1:09:28] like.

[1:09:28] >> Yeah. So we and just a couple couple

[1:09:31] thoughts on what we were planning on

[1:09:32] doing to this building. So it's it's

[1:09:34] been under a new owner since about

[1:09:36] October. Um, the building, I don't know

[1:09:38] if you've driven by it frequently, but

[1:09:40] it looks very tired on the outside. So,

[1:09:43] the signage is all mismatched. Festive

[1:09:45] is is on that corner. Their signs about

[1:09:47] this big, literally. Um, and so we're

[1:09:50] trying to make the signage consistent.

[1:09:52] We trying to make it prettier, channel

[1:09:54] cut lettering if available. Um, repaint

[1:09:56] the exterior of the building. We were

[1:09:58] welcoming the light improvements. Um, we

[1:10:00] were planning on doing that anyway. Uh,

[1:10:03] and so I was trying to get to an

[1:10:06] understanding of is it more

[1:10:07] beautifification or is it more safety

[1:10:10] barrier now that you have a better

[1:10:12] understanding of their hours of

[1:10:13] operation or is it a little bit of both?

[1:10:15] Because I could probably do more

[1:10:17] landscaping

[1:10:19] near the park bench, more in front of

[1:10:22] the building. I guess what I'm getting

[1:10:23] at is I want to create the barrier. I

[1:10:26] want it to be pretty. I don't I I would

[1:10:27] love to not do too much because we're

[1:10:29] going to make the building look a lot

[1:10:30] nicer and I would hate for it to be

[1:10:32] obuscated

[1:10:33] >> if we have hedges grow too tall. But

[1:10:36] I'll you know

[1:10:37] >> that's nice to have not

[1:10:38] >> at least from my perspective with the

[1:10:40] landscaping you know it's it's

[1:10:42] addressing sustainability and aesthetic

[1:10:45] purposes. Okay.

[1:10:46] >> Um but with the sustainability piece you

[1:10:48] know trees provide benefits a multitude

[1:10:51] of benefits. storm water control,

[1:10:53] cooling, um biodiversity,

[1:10:57] uh and aesthetics. Yeah. Um as well. So,

[1:11:00] and trees give you the biggest bang for

[1:11:03] your buck over time.

[1:11:04] >> Mhm.

[1:11:05] >> Low low maintenance generally too.

[1:11:07] >> That is and it it is a triple net

[1:11:09] building and so increasing the

[1:11:10] maintenance cost does get passed back to

[1:11:12] the tenants and

[1:11:13] >> Yeah.

[1:11:14] >> So, trying to find that happy medium.

[1:11:16] >> I Yeah. And I I think again this is not

[1:11:18] a dictative. It's just a anywhere we

[1:11:21] can, especially when we're approving new

[1:11:22] things, we're saying let's continue

[1:11:24] sustainability goals. I'm less concerned

[1:11:25] about the safety. It's always a nice

[1:11:26] thing, but at least there is also a

[1:11:28] ridge up, which is nice. It's a very

[1:11:30] large area versus just a curb.

[1:11:32] >> Um, but yeah, I think we just like to

[1:11:34] see us continuing to grow and get more

[1:11:36] sustainable. So, but to your point,

[1:11:38] >> you don't want to block the signage

[1:11:39] you're going to put up either. It's a

[1:11:40] balance.

[1:11:41] >> Yeah. Okay. I think we're on the same

[1:11:42] page. we'll get you something has a

[1:11:44] really good sense of I think of

[1:11:46] >> what we're

[1:11:47] >> we've had these conversations in

[1:11:48] multiple forms. So, um I think he's

[1:11:51] probably well equipped to advise on

[1:11:53] that.

[1:11:54] >> He has been you guys have always been

[1:11:55] very helpful too. So,

[1:11:56] >> what what color are you going to paint

[1:11:58] the building?

[1:11:58] >> That's a good question. Um

[1:12:02] >> and are you going to paint? It looks

[1:12:03] like there's masonry.

[1:12:05] >> No, right now our our thought was just

[1:12:07] the facade. Um but it's it's a it's

[1:12:11] barely a thought. Are you are you

[1:12:13] familiar with what they did with the

[1:12:14] cone elevator building just a little bit

[1:12:16] further down?

[1:12:17] >> No.

[1:12:17] >> It's probably it's right next to Stone

[1:12:19] Fabricators and PK Construction, but if

[1:12:22] you look at the before and after of what

[1:12:23] they did, they painted it white and blue

[1:12:25] accents. It looks incredible. So, it's something that would be tasteful

[1:12:30] and nice and and not obnoxious, but if you go go look at it sometime this

[1:12:36] week, I mean, it's it's peeling. It's

[1:12:37] just there's a light that's it just

[1:12:39] needs to be needs to be redone. So,

[1:12:42] >> if you can kind of describe what that's

[1:12:44] going to be, you know, what color, what what you guys decide before the

[1:12:48] next reading, that would be great, too.

[1:12:50] >> Yeah, we'll try and um put something

[1:12:52] together like that along with a

[1:12:53] landscaping plan.

[1:12:55] >> I could be wrong. These they're not

[1:12:56] necessarily tied together, right?

[1:12:58] Because we're talking you're talking

[1:12:59] about the entire building versus just

[1:13:00] this. So, good point.

[1:13:02] >> Yeah, it wasn't a requirement on the

[1:13:03] PNC.

[1:13:03] >> I don't want to stop this or makes

[1:13:05] sense.

[1:13:05] >> Let's do both. Yeah,

[1:13:07] >> I don't I don't want to encumber that or

[1:13:09] but I just wanted to let you know of our

[1:13:11] plans anyway.

[1:13:11] >> Appreciate it. It's good to know. I

[1:13:12] appreciate the unification. So,

[1:13:14] >> of course.

[1:13:15] >> Cool. All right.

[1:13:16] >> Thank you.

[1:13:17] Other public comments?

[1:13:20] >> No. All right. Anyone online?

[1:13:24] Anything else from the council?

[1:13:26] >> No.

[1:13:27] >> All right. We will go ahead and close

[1:13:29] the public hearing then and then there

[1:13:31] will be a second reading of this bill on

[1:13:33] September 8th. Thank you very much for

[1:13:35] coming. Appreciate it.

[1:13:36] >> Thank you.

[1:13:38] >> All right. Moving on to item 14. Bill

[1:13:42] 3071. Ask I'm going to ask for the title

[1:13:44] to be read.

[1:13:46] Bill 3071, an ordinance authorizing a

[1:13:49] special permit use for New Blueprint

[1:13:50] Partners LLC, owners of the property

[1:13:53] grounds addressed as 1220 North Price

[1:13:55] Road to permit AIM field hockey to

[1:13:57] operate a 6,614

[1:13:59] square foot enclosed recreational use

[1:14:02] within the tenants space addressed as

[1:14:03] 1220 North Price Road, Sweet 4. First

[1:14:05] reading and public hearing.

[1:14:06] >> All right, I will go ahead and open the

[1:14:08] public hearing as well and another great

[1:14:10] presentation.

[1:14:11] >> Good evening, mayor. And just for the

[1:14:12] record, my name is Carlos Tjo. I'm the

[1:14:14] director of planning and community

[1:14:15] development for the city of Alvette. And

[1:14:17] tonight here I'm uh to discuss bill 3071

[1:14:20] which is a special permit request for an

[1:14:23] enclosed recreational use at 1220 North

[1:14:25] Price Road uh suite number four uh in

[1:14:28] that building. That is the same building

[1:14:30] where we have Padel and Pickle uh on on

[1:14:33] the northern end and underneath Pedell

[1:14:35] and Pickle is actually uh u

[1:14:39] beauty uh auto beauty specialists. I'm

[1:14:42] sorry I can think of the name. And then

[1:14:43] right in the middle you have uh uh

[1:14:45] door.com

[1:14:47] uh that that's located uh that kind of

[1:14:49] wraps. And then this is a little corner

[1:14:51] piece that I'll show you more

[1:14:52] specifically in a second. So if you go

[1:14:54] to the next slide, it is an old uh an

[1:14:57] older building that was built uh I

[1:14:58] believe in the the 1960s. I didn't put

[1:15:00] the date uh in there, but it's a 6acre

[1:15:03] lot with 134,000

[1:15:05] uh square foot uh was considered of

[1:15:08] office manufacturing, warehousing, and

[1:15:10] distilling uh that took place at one

[1:15:12] time. Now we have uh recreational use

[1:15:14] with Pedel and Pickle uh storage with

[1:15:17] auto beauty specialists and then some

[1:15:19] distribution and offices with locked uh

[1:15:21] with uh lock.com

[1:15:24] or door.com uh on the site. the there's

[1:15:28] one more piece uh of the building that

[1:15:30] is up for lease uh and it's roughly

[1:15:33] about 6,700 square ft² and that's where

[1:15:35] you see the orange door there at the

[1:15:37] lower right hand corner uh is where

[1:15:39] they're looking to take a a piece of

[1:15:42] that. It's very oddly configured because

[1:15:44] over time as that property was improved

[1:15:47] they they did it in phases and pieces uh

[1:15:49] in there and of course it was the old

[1:15:50] Southern Comfort Distillery uh that was

[1:15:53] operating on that site. property grounds

[1:15:55] are zone LI light industrial district

[1:15:58] and enclosed recreational uses and

[1:16:00] outdoor recreational uses are permitted

[1:16:02] uses in the LI district but subject to a

[1:16:05] special permit meaning they're not

[1:16:06] industrial but they can be compatible

[1:16:08] with a lot of the industrial uses that

[1:16:09] we have there and of course I noted we

[1:16:11] have Pedel and Pickle on the site uh

[1:16:13] just to the left of it you had the

[1:16:15] bridge uh facility um in there and then

[1:16:18] we used to have the old town in tennis

[1:16:19] just down the block uh not too far from

[1:16:21] where SSM was looking at the next slide

[1:16:25] We have a procedure for special permit

[1:16:27] requests. It's a recommend review and

[1:16:29] recommendation by the council by the

[1:16:31] commission. Uh they forward that to the

[1:16:33] council which holds a public hearing and

[1:16:35] then has a action via an ordinance

[1:16:38] special permit process. We have a

[1:16:39] procedure that's outlined within our

[1:16:41] ordinance that looks about looks at the

[1:16:43] impact to it to limitations. Uh but

[1:16:46] always, you know, trying to see how we

[1:16:47] can further our comprehensive plan uh

[1:16:49] goals and updates. And I'm sorry about

[1:16:51] the lower left hand that should have

[1:16:53] been LI district uh in there on that

[1:16:55] side. The next slide will kind of talk

[1:16:57] about general conditions of a special

[1:16:58] permit. So what do we do is that we make

[1:17:01] sure it's listed in the district that it

[1:17:02] first to go a comprehensive plan that

[1:17:05] the location is suitable to the

[1:17:06] environment and surroundings. Sometimes

[1:17:07] it could be doing topography some

[1:17:10] natural features is is the property flat

[1:17:12] is it hilly or or things of nature. Uh

[1:17:15] are the improvements complimentary to

[1:17:17] the neighboring uses? Did they

[1:17:19] demonstrate that they're mitigating any

[1:17:21] spillover effects that would adversely

[1:17:23] impact the addition properties? And then

[1:17:25] of course the city has the authority to

[1:17:27] require whether buffering aesthetic

[1:17:29] enhancements, designate areas for open

[1:17:31] space, set limitations on operations,

[1:17:33] implement a schedule and that is you

[1:17:35] know requiring things to happen over a

[1:17:37] certain amount of time and consider

[1:17:39] adequacy of public services such as fire

[1:17:43] uh medical police type of services. The

[1:17:45] next slide we'll get into the nuts and

[1:17:46] bolts. This is a corner of the building.

[1:17:48] Again, this is 134,000 ft building. It's

[1:17:51] a big building. Um, they're taking this

[1:17:55] uh kind of uh front view here where the

[1:17:58] orange door is, but not the whole thing.

[1:18:00] It's just the on the left hand side, the first two uh components where you

[1:18:05] see the vertical uh things right there

[1:18:08] and then it kind of L-shapes and goes

[1:18:10] back. So, you actually enter the

[1:18:12] building uh from from that gap between

[1:18:15] where the cursor is and to the far left

[1:18:19] uh in there. There's a little cove

[1:18:20] that's a little bit further back. Thank

[1:18:22] you, Miss Yaki. Uh in there where the

[1:18:24] enter entrance is. And I'll show you a

[1:18:26] little bit more when we get into the

[1:18:27] aerial view. The next slide will kind of

[1:18:30] show how that is set up. And again, uh

[1:18:33] sorry, I'm using white on the white

[1:18:35] background. Uh, but you can see this

[1:18:36] L-shaped layout kind of laid out onto

[1:18:39] the 134,000 foot building. You can see

[1:18:42] that cove area in that cove area on the

[1:18:44] lefth hand side is the layout. There's a

[1:18:47] 66

[1:18:48] uh 6,60 ft uh of the building footprint

[1:18:52] for uh the Ames indoor uh field hockey

[1:18:56] projects facility. Who is your your

[1:18:58] petitioner? The next slide.

[1:19:02] What is being proposed? The operations

[1:19:04] are it's a 6,600 foot women's indoor

[1:19:06] field hockey practice facility. In this

[1:19:09] facility, the operations will include

[1:19:10] training, one-on-one coaching, office

[1:19:13] operations, and then video productions

[1:19:15] that they use for uh uh for promoting

[1:19:17] purposes for the uh for the individual

[1:19:19] athletes uh for schools and and things

[1:19:21] of that nature. Uh next slide. Uh as we

[1:19:25] go through the PCDC, they went and they

[1:19:27] reviewed it. Again they have a process

[1:19:29] to review it in accordance with uh our

[1:19:31] ordinance in special permit uses and

[1:19:33] then also our comprehensive plan. Uh

[1:19:35] when you look at economic development

[1:19:37] and investment, it also has its own

[1:19:39] specific goals about environmental

[1:19:41] sustainability, investment, crime

[1:19:42] prevention, uh native plantings and

[1:19:45] strategic redevelopment. So in their

[1:19:47] review, the commission uh motioned that

[1:19:49] the council consider authorizing the

[1:19:51] special permit through this ordinance.

[1:19:53] However, they also laid out the

[1:19:54] following conditions. One is to limit

[1:19:56] the hours of operations from 7:00 a.m.

[1:19:58] to 8:00 p.m. How do we get there? Again,

[1:20:00] that was a discussion with the

[1:20:01] petitioner of what their operating hours

[1:20:03] would be. Uh, and there uh to replace

[1:20:05] the exterior wallpack lights with uh

[1:20:07] those that are cut off and facing down

[1:20:09] compatible with chapter 428 to do a tree

[1:20:12] health assessment and replacement plan

[1:20:14] with 50% of those being native. There

[1:20:16] was several trees along the perimeter of

[1:20:18] the the the site as itself. you know,

[1:20:20] different differentiating it from the

[1:20:22] petitioner here. Uh, and there and some

[1:20:25] of them had been cut down and some of

[1:20:26] them uh seemed like they they were not

[1:20:29] as healthy. And then to replace some of

[1:20:31] the deteriorated fencing sections uh

[1:20:33] that were on the uh south side of the

[1:20:37] property uh uh in there the next slide,

[1:20:40] mayor, if I can just enter a couple of

[1:20:42] items into the record. Uh, one is our

[1:20:44] 2024 comprehensive plan update,

[1:20:46] including our 5-year economic

[1:20:47] development plan, the Olivette municipal

[1:20:49] code and zoning map, the staff

[1:20:51] presentation and memorandum presented to

[1:20:52] the planning and community design

[1:20:54] commission dated July 23rd, 2026,

[1:20:57] including the petition and supporting

[1:20:58] plans and documents. The public hearing

[1:21:00] notice, of course, this is a public

[1:21:02] hearing. We're required to post this in

[1:21:04] the county and St. Louis County. It was

[1:21:06] published on August 10th, 2026. And then

[1:21:08] you have a list of the properties that

[1:21:09] were identified or notified uh regarding

[1:21:12] that twice. Uh they get a postcard

[1:21:14] before it goes to the commission and

[1:21:16] then they also get a public hearing

[1:21:18] notice uh prior to our meeting here at

[1:21:20] council and then the presentation before

[1:21:22] council dated August 25th, 2026. I do

[1:21:25] have representatives here in attendance,

[1:21:27] but I'd like be glad to answer uh

[1:21:29] specific questions about the building

[1:21:30] and the operations.

[1:21:32] >> I have questions mostly for the

[1:21:33] petitioner. So before we bring them up,

[1:21:35] anyone have any questions for Mr. Tjo.

[1:21:38] >> Yeah. So I uh my daughter actually took

[1:21:39] lessons at Padel and Pickle. So I got to

[1:21:41] see the parking lot when they're when

[1:21:43] it's gets a little bit busier.

[1:21:45] >> It does it just want to make sure that

[1:21:47] there are enough spots for all the

[1:21:48] tenants if this goes through. Especially

[1:21:51] if you know there's a team or a couple

[1:21:53] of teams practicing, everyone drives in

[1:21:55] their own cars.

[1:21:57] >> End up with an extra with an extra 30

[1:21:59] cars. [snorts]

[1:22:00] >> Would that be enough space? And if not,

[1:22:02] where would the overflow be?

[1:22:04] >> Well, good question. Uh if you we can go

[1:22:07] back to the aerial. I think it's about

[1:22:09] uh three on on this site. Well, one

[1:22:14] uh on this site. So you can see um

[1:22:17] there's that center parking uh in in

[1:22:20] that area primarily used by by lock uh

[1:22:23] door.com, excuse me. And their pedal and

[1:22:26] pickle uses part of that and then they

[1:22:28] uh expanded their have the uh the

[1:22:30] parking facility there on the lower left

[1:22:33] corner uh in there. and you see that aisle in there. Uh they've always

[1:22:37] wanted to expand in that green space,

[1:22:39] but then that would trigger MSD review

[1:22:41] and and storm water. So, there's always

[1:22:42] that caveat that we have available

[1:22:44] there. But then there's some additional

[1:22:46] parking on the far right end of the

[1:22:48] building uh in there. It's kind of

[1:22:50] separate and independent, but they also

[1:22:52] operate this. Yes.

[1:22:54] >> To the f Okay,

[1:22:56] >> that that area where the cursor is at.

[1:22:58] >> Would would that be another entrance or

[1:23:00] would people have to walk around?

[1:23:01] >> They would have to walk around. They're not in the way the in the

[1:23:06] original building everything was all

[1:23:07] within within [snorts] reach. Now that

[1:23:09] things have been separated, yes, the

[1:23:11] parking is all kind of uh disassociated

[1:23:13] with the with the spaces.

[1:23:16] >> But it's always a good question. I mean,

[1:23:18] I always hear, you know, that's a lot of

[1:23:20] parking. You know, do do they really

[1:23:22] need all that surface area? And you try

[1:23:24] to balance that. Do they really have

[1:23:25] enough parking uh in there? You know,

[1:23:28] from a planning perspective, there are

[1:23:30] in our code, there are some some

[1:23:32] minimums. We go by minimums uh in there

[1:23:35] that they have to have a minimum amount

[1:23:36] based on the type of activity that takes

[1:23:39] place. For recreational uses, it's based

[1:23:40] on square footage. There's a simple

[1:23:42] calculation that we use to calculate

[1:23:44] that. For the office, it's based on on a

[1:23:47] similar weight. Uh but then they're in a

[1:23:50] match. And then our code allows us to

[1:23:52] provide some overlap. So if this use

[1:23:54] needs this much parking, this use need

[1:23:56] needs this much parking, this use needs

[1:23:57] this much parking, you can have some

[1:23:59] overlap that that some may come in at

[1:24:01] night, some may come in during the day

[1:24:03] um in there. So it allows for that

[1:24:05] process in there to help try to balance

[1:24:07] it uh in there. But again, it's, you

[1:24:11] know, from a professional view, it's

[1:24:13] like I think if if people are unhappy with

[1:24:18] the parking, they're going to go

[1:24:20] somewhere else to find a better facility

[1:24:21] that can accommodate them. And it

[1:24:23] impacts the user in there. We want to

[1:24:24] keep these uses viable. We want to keep

[1:24:27] our residents and and and the region

[1:24:29] coming to our our our location uh in

[1:24:32] there, but this is a fine balance as

[1:24:34] opposed to having over parking. We had

[1:24:36] the conversation when uh Murthy Health

[1:24:38] Systems was looking at the pharmacy and

[1:24:40] we were asking can we get rid of parking

[1:24:42] spaces uh back there and it's tough

[1:24:46] >> for this area specifically. I just want

[1:24:47] to make sure people are not parking

[1:24:48] along the road or something like that.

[1:24:50] So, but that sounds plenty sufficient if

[1:24:52] we have that lot in the back.

[1:24:55] >> But a good question. I mean it's it's

[1:24:57] one of the things we struggle with and

[1:24:59] finding that right mix, right balance.

[1:25:00] Mhm.

[1:25:01] >> Um, related to parking, I'm interested

[1:25:04] in kind of hearing your perspective on

[1:25:06] the traffic flow on this lot. Just

[1:25:08] recognizing that it has kind of an

[1:25:10] unusual

[1:25:12] setup with the two entrances. Um, you

[1:25:15] know, it's not a cir circle drive, but

[1:25:18] you know, kind of coming in from both

[1:25:20] sides. And then the extended part that

[1:25:23] I'm assuming when this was more serving

[1:25:26] an industrial purpose um was set up for

[1:25:30] truck loading and unloading. Um and I

[1:25:34] guess I'm just I'm curious in this

[1:25:37] parcel recognizing how the uses have

[1:25:40] shifted um pretty significantly. Um,

[1:25:44] other than Door, perhaps Door still uses

[1:25:47] the larger trucks for uh deliveries and

[1:25:51] loading and unloading. I'm not sure. I'd

[1:25:53] be curious to know um if this current

[1:25:56] traffic configuration

[1:26:00] is

[1:26:01] the best um

[1:26:04] use of that space

[1:26:07] um and or the safest use recognizing

[1:26:11] that you know for field hockey you'll

[1:26:13] have parents driving but you my guess

[1:26:15] [clears throat] is potentially some of

[1:26:16] the clients will be uh older

[1:26:20] kids young adults who are driving

[1:26:22] themselves and aren't necessarily known

[1:26:24] for being the best drivers. Um, and

[1:26:28] trying to trying to make that that

[1:26:31] particular area work in a way that um

[1:26:36] it seems a little the setup as it is now

[1:26:39] is a little odd for the uses that are

[1:26:41] being

[1:26:42] >> No, it's a very good question.

[1:26:43] >> Those buildings

[1:26:45] >> in there a good question uh just on the

[1:26:49] timing on on here. So, and and this is why it's a special permit. I

[1:26:55] mean, we have seen our industrial parks.

[1:26:58] There's not much industrial going on in

[1:27:00] those parks uh anymore. Uh we have seen

[1:27:04] the the the the road and all that. This

[1:27:07] used to be all private. So, those dock

[1:27:09] doors all worked uh in there because

[1:27:11] they were not under our jurisdiction uh

[1:27:14] and in place. Now, we've taken up those

[1:27:16] spaces in there. And these buildings

[1:27:18] still are industrial buildings trying to

[1:27:21] be retrofitted for uses that that were

[1:27:24] or you know that that were not designed

[1:27:27] or or built. And that's why we go

[1:27:29] through these processes. You know, this

[1:27:31] is the third time that I've been here

[1:27:33] just for this building. You know, we did

[1:27:35] that for Paddle and Pickle. We did it

[1:27:36] for uh Auto Beauty to expand underneath

[1:27:40] uh in there and then now we're doing it

[1:27:41] for the Ames indoor hockey uh in there.

[1:27:45] You know, I couldn't give you a straight

[1:27:47] answer of is this, you know,

[1:27:49] professionally, is this the ideal

[1:27:51] parking configuration? No. No, it's not.

[1:27:54] This is what what I have to work with

[1:27:56] and what how it's put in place. uh

[1:27:58] things that would I would would be ideal

[1:28:01] for that parking is to make it more

[1:28:03] uniform and and uh

[1:28:07] you know uh polygono or or so but then

[1:28:11] it triggers things because then you get

[1:28:13] rid of that green space and then MSD

[1:28:15] gets involved in all that and then the

[1:28:16] cost of trying to retrofit these

[1:28:18] buildings becomes more difficult um uh

[1:28:21] in there. I think it's something we have

[1:28:24] to kind of look over time uh in there.

[1:28:28] We I'm not aware that that there's been

[1:28:30] any incidents uh in the spaces, but we

[1:28:32] only have three of the four tenants in there right now. Uh with uh auto

[1:28:37] beauty, that's solely storage and those

[1:28:39] are moved from just kind of back and

[1:28:40] forth uh with them. Pedal and Pickle,

[1:28:44] you know, I know they have their their operation their times kind

[1:28:48] of fluctuate over time and it's just

[1:28:50] going to be kind of looking at how that

[1:28:51] mixture works between the two. The only

[1:28:53] constant is Door.com. We know who's

[1:28:56] there during during the regular hours

[1:28:57] and then when when they leave uh in

[1:29:00] there, it could be something that we

[1:29:01] could look at, you know, how are the

[1:29:02] hours of operating working with with

[1:29:04] that over time. uh or you know talk

[1:29:08] about how do we get more connectivity uh

[1:29:10] with some of the other spots in there

[1:29:12] depends on when I go out there you know

[1:29:14] it's full and you can see uh to the left

[1:29:17] on on the on the slide you know all that

[1:29:20] parking right there is bridge uh in

[1:29:24] there and it was like when we were going

[1:29:26] through that we didn't anticipate you

[1:29:27] know that volume um in that place but

[1:29:30] we've been fortunate that the mix of

[1:29:32] that building has been you know kind of

[1:29:33] balances pretty well you don't go there

[1:29:36] during the bridge time, you're going to

[1:29:37] get pretty good parking. If it's during

[1:29:38] bridge time, yeah, you're you're you're

[1:29:40] kind of moving around trying to find a

[1:29:41] space in there, but then they have a

[1:29:43] similar pattern where the parking wraps

[1:29:45] around the building and then there's a

[1:29:47] whole another field on the north side uh

[1:29:49] of it. So, yeah, I think there's enough

[1:29:52] spots. It certainly does meet our code.

[1:29:54] Is it configured perfectly? No, it is.

[1:29:58] It it isn't. But I think we have to see

[1:30:00] how we, you know, how these buildings

[1:30:02] kind of transition and how this parking

[1:30:04] kind of works over time.

[1:30:07] >> What the current hours for paddle and

[1:30:09] pickle? Do you happen to know?

[1:30:12] >> Not off hand. Uh I believe they do have

[1:30:14] an early start like 6:00 a.m.

[1:30:19] » And paddle pickles where on here with

[1:30:21] the curses are

[1:30:22] >> Okay. So as you look Yeah, right there.

[1:30:25] >> Okay. Thank you.

[1:30:26] >> And they do actually use a parking lot.

[1:30:28] That's where that blue truck, blue roof

[1:30:31] >> right in that area.

[1:30:32] >> Yeah. So that ends up being old parking

[1:30:34] too. Like

[1:30:35] >> an old old picture then.

[1:30:37] >> It's I don't know that it's marked right

[1:30:39] now, but people just park there in a row

[1:30:41] and it's pretty organized.

[1:30:43] >> Oh, okay.

[1:30:44] >> I've seen it many times.

[1:30:46] >> How crowded is it when you're if you've

[1:30:48] been there?

[1:30:50] >> I think I mean from what I've seen, they

[1:30:52] only take up that wider part of the

[1:30:54] parking. They don't even end up much on

[1:30:56] the pavement.

[1:30:58] So,

[1:30:58] >> okay.

[1:30:59] >> So, it sounds like it there should be

[1:31:01] room.

[1:31:02] >> Yeah. I mean, if we have that other

[1:31:03] parking lot on the far right, I mean,

[1:31:05] that's overflow if needed. Yeah. It's I

[1:31:08] imagine it's also by hour times things

[1:31:11] make difference

[1:31:11] >> because I love this reuse.

[1:31:14] >> Yeah. It's exciting

[1:31:15] >> to these types of

[1:31:18] >> and it draws people. They want to get

[1:31:19] dinner afterwards. They want to do

[1:31:21] things like that. It's great

[1:31:22] >> and it's unique to the community, right?

[1:31:24] >> It's it's a great

[1:31:27] bring up the petitioner. So I have just

[1:31:28] random questions. I'm curious more

[1:31:30] curiosity questions. So like

[1:31:37] » evening. Thank you guys so much for your

[1:31:39] time with this and consideration. I'm

[1:31:40] Lauren Kornweight, the founder and

[1:31:42] director of Aimfield Hockey. I've been

[1:31:44] at this for 20 years and have a vision

[1:31:46] for for the next step. So

[1:31:49] >> I'm Chris Paul now and I'm a

[1:31:51] representative for Lauren and the real

[1:31:52] estate.

[1:31:53] >> Great. Um I was curious two things.

[1:31:56] hours only because again I feel like it

[1:31:58] might be different thinking about my

[1:31:59] son's soccer and the private things like

[1:32:00] they easily do things till 10 o'clock at

[1:32:02] night and so it's you're comfortable

[1:32:04] with the hours because it is light

[1:32:05] industrial so we have a little bit of

[1:32:07] give so

[1:32:08] >> I am comfortable with the hours a lot of

[1:32:10] um the you know during the day is going

[1:32:12] to be just office use for we just have

[1:32:15] four of us in there so it's not like a

[1:32:17] huge you know for parking or whatever um

[1:32:21] and then I am comfortable with the hours

[1:32:23] it's going to be a lot of small group

[1:32:24] and private training and not like loads

[1:32:27] of teams coming in that space.

[1:32:29] >> Okay,

[1:32:29] >> that helps. I'm also I guess I'm

[1:32:31] surprised too like your choice field

[1:32:34] hockey, but you guys don't ever open it

[1:32:36] up to anything else like football or

[1:32:38] other, you know, trainings. You just it

[1:32:40] only dedicates to field.

[1:32:41] >> I mean, this is again we've been doing

[1:32:42] this 20 years and we just focused on

[1:32:44] field hockey, but

[1:32:45] >> it's a win. Okay,

[1:32:47] >> great.

[1:32:48] >> How many uh players are training at any

[1:32:51] one time? Oh, thank you.

[1:32:53] >> We'll we'll be looking at doing small

[1:32:55] group. Well, some will be literally

[1:32:56] private one-on-one, but we'll be looking

[1:32:58] at doing like 8 to 12 kids um training.

[1:33:02] >> Yeah, that's right.

[1:33:03] >> So, this is kind of a new concept, so

[1:33:06] it's a little bit unproved. Lawrence

[1:33:08] kind of gone out on a limb here because

[1:33:10] all these indoor practice facility,

[1:33:12] anyone who uses turf, they're all

[1:33:14] fighting over each other for Veta in the

[1:33:16] different turf

[1:33:17] >> areas. So, Lauren's still going to

[1:33:19] utilize those spaces. This will be a

[1:33:21] complimentary facility for her where she

[1:33:24] can do smaller group training

[1:33:26] one-on-one. She does a lot of

[1:33:27] recruitment videos for college and

[1:33:29] things like that. So, it'll have like a

[1:33:31] video production room.

[1:33:33] >> Um, so it's not totally unknown. I think

[1:33:36] she knows what she's gone through a

[1:33:38] heavy business plan. So, I think it's

[1:33:40] going to be a great facility. And

[1:33:43] honestly, the um the previous meeting we

[1:33:46] went to, they were like, "We think

[1:33:49] you're going to outgrow this facility

[1:33:50] and need to go get a bigger facility."

[1:33:51] So, it's going to it's a new concept in

[1:33:53] the indoor space. There's no one else

[1:33:55] doing it. We're excited about it. We're

[1:33:57] happy to be in Alvette. This is a great

[1:33:59] location. The property is well lit and

[1:34:01] it's a safe neighborhood. At night, the

[1:34:04] all the other businesses are in the

[1:34:05] afternoons, they'll be winding down on

[1:34:07] their business where she'll be picking

[1:34:08] up from when kids get out of school

[1:34:11] until the evening hours. So I think it's

[1:34:13] complimentary and then a lot of the

[1:34:15] parents when they drop their kids off

[1:34:18] they can go support the other businesses

[1:34:19] in the community or go over to pet pedal

[1:34:21] and pickle and make reservations and so

[1:34:23] maybe that helps from the parking

[1:34:25] standoint as well.

[1:34:26] >> Could I address just your question

[1:34:28] earlier also um we serve like

[1:34:32] three-year-olds to 18y olds so 90% of

[1:34:35] our clients are are parent drivers. Um,

[1:34:39] we do have some, you know, the 16, 17,

[1:34:41] 18 year olds and I do understand your

[1:34:43] question with that, but it's that's

[1:34:45] going to be a small percentage.

[1:34:47] >> I do imagine you will do quite well

[1:34:49] because I can imagine a lot of people

[1:34:50] that's why I asked about other sports

[1:34:51] because the recruitment as my son's

[1:34:53] going through that kind of thing right

[1:34:54] now. It's um a space where you could do

[1:34:57] that privately and get that and have

[1:34:58] video. I question do you plan maybe you

[1:35:00] don't because the size isn't like food.

[1:35:02] You're not selling food. We're not No,

[1:35:04] we don't have like a grillin bar or

[1:35:06] anything like that. think like a veta or

[1:35:08] something like that. Okay.

[1:35:09] >> You don't want any part of that.

[1:35:11] >> I don't want to venture into that.

[1:35:12] >> I understand. I just wanted to check.

[1:35:14] So,

[1:35:16] >> all right.

[1:35:17] >> Yeah. I think it's a very exciting use.

[1:35:19] I love to see the building repurposed um

[1:35:22] and and especially providing something

[1:35:25] that's unique um and sounds like a

[1:35:28] really great market to address. Um,

[1:35:32] and yeah, my my concerns really are more

[1:35:35] about the building and the kind of weird

[1:35:38] driving situation that exists. I don't

[1:35:40] have any concerns about the business

[1:35:42] other than the potential that you will

[1:35:44] be more successful and uh outgrow this

[1:35:48] space too quickly.

[1:35:50] So, we are in a little bit of a So, when

[1:35:53] we negotiated this deal on the building,

[1:35:56] the there was a new buyer coming in for

[1:35:58] the building, which is the Bluepoint or

[1:36:00] whatever LLC that's on the agenda for

[1:36:04] this evening. It is kind of an emergency

[1:36:06] situation. and Lauren got busy in the

[1:36:08] spring and we burned some time and then

[1:36:10] we realized when we went to permits that

[1:36:13] we figured pedal and pickle and it

[1:36:15] wasn't talked about with the previous

[1:36:16] lawn lords on the use that we didn't fit

[1:36:18] within the light industrial without a

[1:36:20] special use permit. So now we're in a

[1:36:22] situation where construction's been

[1:36:24] delayed. So really what we're trying to

[1:36:26] achieve is to get this thing off center

[1:36:29] because it's she's a small business and

[1:36:32] she's got time burning on at least right

[1:36:33] now and we're confident we can get

[1:36:35] through this with you guys and make the

[1:36:37] compromises needed to make sure everyone

[1:36:39] in the city is happy with the use. But

[1:36:42] it's kind of like we need I think what

[1:36:44] Carlos suggested is that we need to have

[1:36:46] it as an emergency so we can get a first

[1:36:48] and second reading. So whatever

[1:36:50] accommodations

[1:36:51] Yeah. So we we kind of would like to see

[1:36:56] if we can move this forward this evening

[1:36:59] if you guys would be open to that.

[1:37:01] >> Don't know from policy how that works in

[1:37:03] terms of because because we have to post

[1:37:05] agendas

[1:37:06] >> start the review of the uh the permit

[1:37:08] plans with them uh and then that's

[1:37:10] something we can offer

[1:37:12] >> to move I'm sorry

[1:37:13] >> to kind of facilitate and start the the

[1:37:15] permit review the the building permit

[1:37:17] plans before the council authorizes. So,

[1:37:20] it's a risk we take, but it's something.

[1:37:22] >> Yeah. And I think if it sounds like

[1:37:23] they're willing to work, so I think that

[1:37:25] makes sense to start early. We can't

[1:37:26] authorize until the second reading, but

[1:37:28] I think that gets you forward versus

[1:37:30] waiting to the second reading then to do

[1:37:32] that, right? So, it keeps us on track,

[1:37:34] if that makes sense. So,

[1:37:35] >> what is the policy? Can we do a first

[1:37:37] and second reading on one day?

[1:37:39] >> I don't know how we can do that.

[1:37:41] >> Technically, you can. Um, it was not

[1:37:43] advertised on the agenda that you were

[1:37:45] going to vote on it this evening. So, um

[1:37:48] that would have been useful, but uh

[1:37:50] technically you could you need to vote

[1:37:53] as a council. Someone needs to make a

[1:37:55] motion to hold the second reading this

[1:37:58] evening and then you need to vote on

[1:38:00] that motion and then you would be um you

[1:38:03] could then vote um on the

[1:38:10] » vote.

[1:38:11] Correct.

[1:38:14] And I guess though, Carlos, does it

[1:38:15] speed us up that much? Because the

[1:38:16] plans, how long is it going to take you

[1:38:17] guys to work through that?

[1:38:19] >> Takes about right now we're about 15

[1:38:22] days out for review comments.

[1:38:24] >> Okay. So, if you start working with them

[1:38:25] immediately, it's going to be 15 15 days

[1:38:27] anyway. And so, to me,

[1:38:30] >> it's going to be two weeks before we

[1:38:31] vote on this again, right?

[1:38:33] >> And so, I I don't think it's going to

[1:38:34] change anything anyway. And I'd rather

[1:38:36] if we didn't need to um if it was going

[1:38:38] to dash but so I think starting as soon

[1:38:39] as we can on just review to help them

[1:38:41] out would be great if

[1:38:42] >> it's something we can do without you

[1:38:43] with or without the

[1:38:45] >> okay before the only concern is in it

[1:38:47] was my understanding in the past it it

[1:38:49] sets a precedent and then they're always

[1:38:51] asking us the staff you know about

[1:38:53] >> yeah I think I think it's understood and

[1:38:56] so we need to be careful on that and not uh so recognizing that there's a

[1:39:01] need to burn and we really excited about

[1:39:02] the reuse of the building so you know

[1:39:04] open to that. But, uh, it's a good call

[1:39:06] out. Um, signage. Oh, sorry.

[1:39:08] >> I would be comfortable if we entertained

[1:39:12] a second rating tonight. Does how does

[1:39:14] anybody else feel?

[1:39:16] >> I mean, if it if it's going to expedite helping them

[1:39:22] move forward faster, I'm okay with it.

[1:39:24] But if it's not going to make any

[1:39:25] difference, stick to what we're doing

[1:39:27] now.

[1:39:27] >> Yeah, that's generally I mean, I I

[1:39:29] wouldn't be totally objecting to it

[1:39:31] except it does set precedent for us,

[1:39:33] too. Um, and it doesn't sound like it's

[1:39:35] going to accelerate at this point in the

[1:39:37] period.

[1:39:37] >> And I say leave everything the way it

[1:39:38] is, but it might help Carlos so he

[1:39:41] doesn't get

[1:39:42] >> Well, it's one of these where one way or

[1:39:44] the other we're establishing a tricky

[1:39:46] precedent.

[1:39:46] >> Yeah. Um, I I feel more comfortable with

[1:39:50] Carlos working with the petitioner on

[1:39:53] the building permit side of things than

[1:39:57] making a decision in the middle of a

[1:39:59] council meeting to adjust our processes.

[1:40:02] Um, that we we were not prepped for

[1:40:05] ahead of time to do something like that.

[1:40:07] And I think adjusting something like

[1:40:10] that in in a council meeting at itself,

[1:40:12] I I don't feel comfortable with that.

[1:40:17] Yeah, I kind of need to I guess Carlos

[1:40:18] the question for you is or Mr. is it any

[1:40:20] concerns from you moving forward on your

[1:40:22] side sooner than later?

[1:40:24] >> No, I mean they started off with permit

[1:40:26] plans. So I think they're they're they

[1:40:28] should have the contractor is here uh in

[1:40:31] >> I don't want to put you guys in a bind

[1:40:32] either if that's something that you guys

[1:40:34] can't staff timing or anything like that

[1:40:36] either. So that would

[1:40:37] >> correct but I think we can coordinate

[1:40:38] and get that that okay you know that

[1:40:40] first round going

[1:40:41] >> if you guys are good we'll have move

[1:40:42] forward that way. I think it'll end

[1:40:44] about the same time either way and I I

[1:40:45] would agree with Chairman Bam on that.

[1:40:47] >> So, realistically, when would the second

[1:40:49] reading be?

[1:40:50] >> ETH.

[1:40:51] Okay. Okay. Okay.

[1:40:53] >> And signage for the building. I don't

[1:40:54] know if we covered that. I apologize.

[1:40:57] >> I would say on the signage, Lauren and I

[1:40:59] have talked about it. It would go if you

[1:41:01] go forward a couple, you can see the

[1:41:03] orange door.

[1:41:08] » Oh, wrong way.

[1:41:10] We could put a sign there to

[1:41:11] >> Yeah, you could put a big arrow.

[1:41:14] >> So I think in Lauren I it as long as it

[1:41:17] hasn't changed. Her plan was to put AIM

[1:41:19] above that loading door

[1:41:22] um on that orange panel right there.

[1:41:24] >> But the loading door is not you're not

[1:41:26] using that door as an entrance.

[1:41:28] >> No.

[1:41:29] >> Okay.

[1:41:29] >> And just to so you guys understand, this

[1:41:32] space only accounts for about 2% of the

[1:41:34] entire building. And um the the way this

[1:41:38] space lays out, the entry will be on the

[1:41:41] other side of that orange door, but

[1:41:42] directly on the other side of the space.

[1:41:44] So that'll be the main entry point.

[1:41:45] You're not going to be entering from the

[1:41:47] price side. But the way it's laid out

[1:41:49] and the previous owner, they were

[1:41:52] basically talking about mothballing that

[1:41:54] space because it's laid out so

[1:41:55] inefficiently for really any other use

[1:41:58] than recreational or special use. So

[1:42:02] just because it's hard to get into stuff

[1:42:04] on the right side of this drawing which

[1:42:05] used to be a rail loaded is really tired

[1:42:08] space that you know frankly Lauren's

[1:42:11] spending a lot of money that she's

[1:42:13] investing into the space herself rather

[1:42:15] than landlord and the other space that

[1:42:16] Lord loading dock comes up and it makes

[1:42:19] a 90 degree turn. So I mean this is

[1:42:21] really it sat for a long time where they

[1:42:24] almost said let's just forget about

[1:42:26] leasing it and move on. So, all reason

[1:42:28] exciting to reuse it.

[1:42:29] >> Yeah.

[1:42:30] >> Wish you the best of luck. So,

[1:42:32] >> we'll move forward then. Um, any other

[1:42:35] questions from council?

[1:42:37] >> Uh, does anyone in the public have

[1:42:39] questions to ask?

[1:42:40] >> I just had one quick one.

[1:42:42] >> Come on up.

[1:42:45] >> So, I did represent the landlord when we

[1:42:47] signed this lease. Um,

[1:42:50] is there is there not have is there not

[1:42:53] more of a or less of a pre precedent to

[1:42:56] have a second reading at the council

[1:42:58] meeting, first reading and second

[1:43:00] reading, and to do the drawings early?

[1:43:02] >> Do you guys normally have you never done

[1:43:03] the second reading?

[1:43:04] >> It's not that we've never done it. My my

[1:43:06] concern is that everything we do

[1:43:08] generally we need to give the notice to

[1:43:09] the public so they expect what what

[1:43:11] we're voting on, what we're talking

[1:43:12] about, which is why we can't bring up

[1:43:13] random topics and discuss them and just

[1:43:15] forget at a given time. Um, and so it

[1:43:18] sets that precedent that we could do

[1:43:20] something and then people get upset that

[1:43:21] like you did something without letting

[1:43:22] us know. I would have come and spoken. I

[1:43:24] would have objected. I would have

[1:43:25] brought something up.

[1:43:26] >> Whereas this, while we usually staff

[1:43:28] would not usually work with you until

[1:43:30] it's put forward,

[1:43:32] >> we recognized this is going to go

[1:43:33] forward. So staff working with you now,

[1:43:35] I think puts us in the exact same spot

[1:43:37] at the end of the day. So

[1:43:38] >> Gotcha.

[1:43:39] >> Yeah.

[1:43:39] When we when we signed the lease,

[1:43:41] we figured um and I actually remembered

[1:43:43] it at the end, but when we did the

[1:43:45] paddle and pickle deal, I thought we had

[1:43:47] a special use permit athletic for the

[1:43:49] whole building and it was specific to

[1:43:50] their use. So,

[1:43:53] >> I want them to get going as soon as

[1:43:54] possible.

[1:43:54] >> Me, too. Trust me. So, I I think this

[1:43:56] will end up that's why our question of

[1:43:57] if it's going to be 15 days, if it's

[1:43:59] going to take that long anyway, we'll

[1:44:00] approve it in 14 days. Hopefully, it's

[1:44:02] done. We're at the same spot. If that

[1:44:04] was not the case, I'd be much more

[1:44:05] willing to entertain at this point. So,

[1:44:07] >> well, I appreciate your time. No, thank

[1:44:09] you. Thank you.

[1:44:10] >> Thank you. Thank you. Anyone online?

[1:44:12] >> You know, the only drawback is that I've

[1:44:14] been frequenting Paris Baguette ever

[1:44:17] since discovering this place. So,

[1:44:19] >> yeah. Good with the bad, right? You

[1:44:21] know, so

[1:44:23] >> thank you.

[1:44:24] All right. Anyone online?

[1:44:26] Questions, comments? All right. I will

[1:44:29] close the public hearing.

[1:44:31] All right. And then we'll have it the

[1:44:32] second reading on the 8th. Thank you

[1:44:34] very much.

[1:44:34] >> Thank you.

[1:44:36] >> Okay. Move on to item 16.

[1:44:39] Uh, surface transportation we will be

[1:44:41] blocked. I will have you read it. How

[1:44:44] about that?

[1:44:46] >> Or do I?

[1:44:47] >> Yes, sir.

[1:44:48] >> Did I miss Oh, I passed bill. I

[1:44:50] apologize. Just kidding. Item 15, Bill

[1:44:53] 3072. If we can have the title right,

[1:44:55] please.

[1:44:56] >> Bill 3072, an ordinance to amend section

[1:44:58] 405.460, 460 condominiums, plats, and

[1:45:02] additional requirements being part of

[1:45:04] the subdivision code of the city of

[1:45:05] Alvette. Chapter 405, subdivision

[1:45:08] regulations of title 4, land use of the

[1:45:10] Alvet municipal code to allow for both

[1:45:12] residential and non-residential

[1:45:13] condominium plats and additional

[1:45:15] requirements. First reading and public

[1:45:17] hearing.

[1:45:18] >> All right, we'll open the public hearing

[1:45:19] on bill 3072 and presentation, please.

[1:45:22] >> Uh, chairman, just for the record, my

[1:45:24] name is Cardinal Stro. I am the director

[1:45:26] of planning and community development

[1:45:27] with the city of Alvette. Uh and this is

[1:45:29] a tax amendment. So unlike uh having the

[1:45:31] site plan and illustrations all the

[1:45:33] pretty pictures uh and there we're

[1:45:35] looking to amend our subdivision code

[1:45:37] specifically the section referring to

[1:45:39] condominiums plats and additional

[1:45:40] requirements. The next slide will show

[1:45:42] the the specific section and the changes

[1:45:44] in that is to remove the references to

[1:45:46] multif family or anything residential.

[1:45:49] Uh what this does it gets us more

[1:45:51] consistent with the condominium act. You

[1:45:53] see there reference of chapter 448 the

[1:45:55] revised statutes of Missouri. They kind

[1:45:58] of say that we we really can't hold a uh

[1:46:00] a distinction in terms of condominiums

[1:46:02] whether they're residential or

[1:46:04] non-residential that they can be applied

[1:46:05] to buildings a building replace or the

[1:46:08] sale of the building uh and they're I'm

[1:46:11] hoping I address that correctly with and

[1:46:14] there and we're just getting our code

[1:46:16] more consistent with the state.

[1:46:17] >> This is what most other cities in

[1:46:19] >> that is correct.

[1:46:20] >> Correct. Okay.

[1:46:21] >> Does that also apply to like industrial

[1:46:23] or office space as well? Yeah.

[1:46:26] >> Good. I'm surprised the word condominium

[1:46:27] doesn't mean living dorms doile, but you

[1:46:30] learn something new every day.

[1:46:34] » Is there any uh with the word

[1:46:36] subdivision in there, does that does

[1:46:39] that word imply one thing or another?

[1:46:41] I'm not sure what a you know, a

[1:46:42] condominium as a building versus a

[1:46:44] condominium subdivision.

[1:46:48] >> Condominium is a form of subdivision.

[1:46:49] And so I think when you go through

[1:46:50] chapter 405 and go through the the

[1:46:53] definition sections that's where that term subdivision is refer

[1:46:57] representing both a process and then a

[1:47:00] product of that process too. I think

[1:47:02] that's what where the that you're trying

[1:47:04] to address

[1:47:05] >> feels similar the word dwelling but you

[1:47:07] again I don't care I trust if this is

[1:47:09] what this

[1:47:09] >> the code's going towards and it gets us

[1:47:11] clear of that that makes sense.

[1:47:14] >> All right questions from the council.

[1:47:17] Anyone in the public online would like

[1:47:19] to speak to this?

[1:47:20] >> I think there are some items that record

[1:47:24] through our 2024 comprehensive plan

[1:47:27] update, the municipal code and zoning

[1:47:29] map uh the staff presentation and

[1:47:31] memorandum to the plan commission dated

[1:47:33] July 23rd, 2026. In that presentation

[1:47:36] and and that is part of your link uh in

[1:47:38] your staff memo, uh there are references

[1:47:40] to what other communities had uh in

[1:47:42] there, what they they were all doing,

[1:47:44] all of them being consistent. uh this

[1:47:46] public hearing notice because this is a

[1:47:47] public hearing and it was posted in the

[1:47:49] county in St. Louis County on August

[1:47:51] 10th, 2026. And then we did not have a

[1:47:54] list of addresses, so I'm sorry I didn't

[1:47:56] take that off uh there and then this

[1:47:58] presentation before the commission.

[1:48:02] Any other questions from council?

[1:48:05] >> All right. Anyone online?

[1:48:08] >> Yep. We will close the public hearing

[1:48:11] and the second reading will be on

[1:48:12] September 8th. Thank you, mayor.

[1:48:15] >> Thank you.

[1:48:16] >> All right,

[1:48:18] moving on to item 16, surface

[1:48:20] transportation block grant agreement

[1:48:22] with Missouri Highways and

[1:48:23] Transportation Commission for the North

[1:48:25] Price Phase One Grant Project.

[1:48:27] >> Good evening, Mayor.

[1:48:31] and council members.

[1:48:32] Again, Bruce McGregor, public works

[1:48:34] director. Um back in January uh work

[1:48:38] session, we discussed our second uh

[1:48:40] application for a surface transportation

[1:48:43] suballocated grant for North Price Road

[1:48:47] section one or phase one old bottom road

[1:48:50] to uh Delmare. It's a little over 2,100

[1:48:53] linear feet. We had applied the previous

[1:48:56] year and and didn't score high enough.

[1:48:58] So we made some strategic amendments to

[1:49:00] our application and uh basically

[1:49:03] offloaded some of the uh engineering

[1:49:06] work out of the grant as the city

[1:49:08] responsibility to try to meet a

[1:49:11] threshold to score more points which is

[1:49:13] one of the criteria used when the uh

[1:49:16] committee is reviewing the uh the grant

[1:49:18] applications. Uh so we found out a

[1:49:21] little bit earlier by looking at the

[1:49:23] agendas for the uh commission at East

[1:49:25] West Gateway that we were on the

[1:49:27] recommended list and then a couple weeks

[1:49:29] ago we got a formal notice from uh MDOT

[1:49:33] from the local projects uh administrator

[1:49:36] that we were on the list for the uh

[1:49:39] meeting this week for award approval and

[1:49:42] that they recommended uh to hit the

[1:49:45] ground running that we present our uh

[1:49:47] the agreement to council for a

[1:49:48] pre-authorization

[1:49:50] uh to uh to uh execute the agreement

[1:49:54] should the uh board uh go ahead and do

[1:49:57] the expected uh you know decision this

[1:50:00] week. Uh be glad to answer any questions

[1:50:03] about the project, the timing, um next

[1:50:06] steps, what we've already completed,

[1:50:08] anything like that.

[1:50:11] >> Excited about it.

[1:50:12] >> Yeah.

[1:50:13] >> Good snooping.

[1:50:15] >> Yeah. And just FYI as well, uh, since

[1:50:18] Amron had been so busy there, we've

[1:50:20] received notice for them that they've

[1:50:22] done all of the energizing work on the

[1:50:25] circuits, uh, they may be coming back

[1:50:27] into town over the next few months,

[1:50:30] removing some obsolete cable uh, from

[1:50:33] the runs, but everything is in service

[1:50:35] uh, for that uh, load balancing or load

[1:50:38] relief project uh, for the distribution

[1:50:41] in University City and Leoo uh, just

[1:50:44] since it's in that same area that that

[1:50:45] project is done. Uh there

[1:50:48] >> so if we were to get final approval for

[1:50:50] this, I think this is question in

[1:50:52] everyone's mind. When would this project

[1:50:54] be realistically done?

[1:50:56] >> Well, so that's a a very fair question.

[1:50:59] What we have done uh last year uh we had

[1:51:02] committed to doing the survey. Uh this

[1:51:05] year what we had began we began in last

[1:51:07] budget year which is in the spring was

[1:51:09] the design work. Uh our intent is to

[1:51:13] have our what what they call an RE

[1:51:16] request for environmental review. So

[1:51:18] that is a uh a submitt that goes to

[1:51:21] Jefferson City to basically clear any

[1:51:24] environmental impacts we have and that

[1:51:26] might be more than just like hazardous

[1:51:28] materials but like native people or some

[1:51:31] other social economic uh impacts uh

[1:51:34] along with uh ecology as well. You know

[1:51:37] are we displacing any bats? The biggest

[1:51:40] unknown we have is rightaway

[1:51:42] acquisition. So, we have a 40-way

[1:51:45] rightway width. We want to maximize our

[1:51:48] existing condition of two sidewalks,

[1:51:50] right? One on either side. Uh we want to

[1:51:53] have a safe roadway for motorists and

[1:51:56] for cyclists. And we still want to have

[1:51:59] that appearance that's, you know, I

[1:52:01] think feels softer to us, which is a

[1:52:02] tree lawn. So to accomplish all that and

[1:52:05] relocate utilities and and other things,

[1:52:08] we need at minimum a temporary

[1:52:12] construction easement for grading uh

[1:52:14] from probably all of the uh property

[1:52:18] owners along the alignment. Okay. So um

[1:52:22] once we start through this process and

[1:52:24] get the rear submitted, we'll be

[1:52:26] planning public meetings. Um we'll be

[1:52:29] getting the word out, maybe going

[1:52:31] doortodoor. Um, every time I walk around

[1:52:33] with a vest with the engineer and we're

[1:52:35] looking at conditions, you know,

[1:52:36] interested parties come out. So many

[1:52:39] folks are quite excited about it. But,

[1:52:41] you know, once you start talking about

[1:52:43] changing, you know, the side of your

[1:52:45] house, people, you know, can start to

[1:52:47] question things. So, um, we always hope

[1:52:51] that we don't get to condemnation. We've

[1:52:53] done it before. And on the old bottom

[1:52:55] project, I think we submitted the final

[1:52:58] court documents 2 or 3 days before our

[1:53:01] grant expired uh which was uh almost $2

[1:53:04] million for that project. So um we hope

[1:53:08] we never get there again uh on there. So

[1:53:11] that's our biggest announcement. So So

[1:53:13] the long story short, we would hope to

[1:53:16] be doing construction for the schedule

[1:53:18] in 3 years. Um I'm hoping we can be

[1:53:21] ahead of that. Um, I'm optimistic that

[1:53:24] our residents will be enthusiastic.

[1:53:26] We'll have a nice design, um, and we'll

[1:53:29] be able to start the negotiation sooner

[1:53:31] in the involvement and, you know, get

[1:53:33] everybody signed off on. So any type of

[1:53:36] um federal grant or grant run through

[1:53:38] MODOT requires the city to do a lot more

[1:53:43] um work and there are a lot more steps

[1:53:47] that need to be taken than if we were

[1:53:50] just doing a regular street project,

[1:53:52] right? And so that is why it requires a

[1:53:55] lot more time. Uh realistically, you

[1:53:57] know, I would tell people three to four

[1:53:59] years. Give yourself a little uh leeway

[1:54:02] because it's not just us that has to do

[1:54:04] the work. Um

[1:54:07] when we do rideway acquisition, we do

[1:54:10] all of that and then MDOT has to go

[1:54:12] through and approve all of that and we

[1:54:14] can't get started on the next step till

[1:54:15] we finish right away. And then plans,

[1:54:18] MDOT has to approve all of that. So

[1:54:20] there's a lot of kind of us doing a lot

[1:54:22] of work and then waiting on others and

[1:54:24] then doing a lot of work and waiting on

[1:54:26] others. So if you want to give um give

[1:54:29] your constituents kind of a realistic

[1:54:30] answer, 3 to four years.

[1:54:32] >> We have the same concerns of

[1:54:34] hypothetically a gas line that isn't

[1:54:36] marked where

[1:54:37] >> Yeah. And and and one of the challenges

[1:54:39] is like what we ran into on the cost

[1:54:41] share project is the area team meets

[1:54:44] once a week. So and we aren't privy to

[1:54:47] the meeting. So they meet, they review,

[1:54:49] they ask a question. Well, then we have

[1:54:51] a week to respond and then they ask

[1:54:54] another question and then we have

[1:54:55] another week to respond. So, you know,

[1:54:58] it's not like we can make these

[1:54:59] decisions on the fly. Um, and it so so that's exactly right. And and we have

[1:55:06] we follow and we do everything by the

[1:55:08] rules anyway, but we we have extreme

[1:55:11] oversight on rightway acquisition

[1:55:12] following what's called the Uniform Act.

[1:55:15] Okay. It is uh designed to protect the

[1:55:18] property owner, you know, and make sure

[1:55:20] that everything is done, everything is

[1:55:22] properly appraised, every opportunity is

[1:55:25] given for the the owner to review and

[1:55:28] sign off on, you know, without being

[1:55:30] coerced. So, I mean, I always feel good

[1:55:33] that I know we did the right thing. You

[1:55:34] know, we always appraise everything. We

[1:55:36] sometimes we get second opinions. We did

[1:55:38] that on the cost share project because

[1:55:40] we wanted to make sure it was such a big

[1:55:42] acquisition that we were doing the right

[1:55:44] thing and everything was being fair uh

[1:55:47] you know for oversight.

[1:55:48] >> So to answer your question are we going

[1:55:50] to find something unexpected? Yes.

[1:55:53] >> And it could be something positive

[1:55:55] unexpected. It might not be something

[1:55:57] positive. it. Who knows?

[1:55:59] >> Um,

[1:56:00] >> one of the most positive that's ahead.

[1:56:02] >> Um, I don't know. Could be we need fewer

[1:56:05] ride ofway than we thought, right? Yeah.

[1:56:08] Um, there will almost always be

[1:56:10] something unexpected.

[1:56:11] >> Yeah.

[1:56:12] >> All right. Fun times.

[1:56:13] >> All right. Any other questions? And

[1:56:16] anyone want to make

[1:56:18] >> uh make a motion to authorize the city

[1:56:20] manager to execute an STBG agreement

[1:56:24] with the Missouri Transportation

[1:56:26] Commission for the North Price Road

[1:56:29] phase 1 project contingent upon final

[1:56:32] award approval.

[1:56:34] >> Second.

[1:56:34] >> All right. Motion made second. Can we

[1:56:36] please pull the council?

[1:56:38] >> Council member Dragal.

[1:56:40] >> Yes.

[1:56:40] >> Council member Solomonov.

[1:56:41] >> Yes.

[1:56:42] >> Council member Clark.

[1:56:43] >> Yes.

[1:56:43] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

[1:56:45] >> Yes. Mayor Lewis.

[1:56:46] >> Yes.

[1:56:46] >> Motion has passed.

[1:56:48] >> Thank you very much.

[1:56:48] Good luck.

[1:56:50] >> Excited.

[1:56:51] >> All right. Item 17, hearing from

[1:56:53] citizens part two. Does anyone in the

[1:56:56] audience or online wish to make a

[1:56:58] comment?

[1:57:02] » We're looking at one person.

[1:57:03] >> Yeah, one person. All right, we'll move

[1:57:05] on to item 18, review and acceptance of

[1:57:07] minutes. Uh, anyone have any corrections

[1:57:09] or notes to call out on the minutes?

[1:57:12] >> All right. If not, I'll take a motion to

[1:57:14] approve.

[1:57:15] >> I'd like to make a motion to approve the

[1:57:17] council minutes from uh August 11th,

[1:57:19] 2026.

[1:57:20] >> Second.

[1:57:20] >> All right. Could we please pull the

[1:57:22] council?

[1:57:24] >> Council member Juel,

[1:57:25] >> yes.

[1:57:26] >> Council member Solomonov,

[1:57:27] >> yes.

[1:57:27] >> Council member Clark,

[1:57:28] >> yes.

[1:57:28] >> Chairman Prom Halman,

[1:57:30] >> yes.

[1:57:30] >> Mayor Lewis,

[1:57:31] >> yes.

[1:57:31] >> Motion has passed. All

[1:57:33] >> right. Thank you. We'll move on to item

[1:57:34] 19, city attorney's report.

[1:57:36] >> No report this evening.

[1:57:37] >> All right. But we do have a close

[1:57:39] session.

[1:57:40] >> Yep. Okay. All right. Right. Moving on

[1:57:42] to item 20, close session. So, can I

[1:57:44] please get a motion to go into close

[1:57:46] session?

[1:57:46] >> Like to make a motion go into close

[1:57:48] session pursuant to the revised statutes

[1:57:51] of the state of Missouri. Discuss

[1:57:54] client, excuse me, attorney client

[1:57:56] privileges, communications pursuant to

[1:57:58] section 610.021

[1:58:02] and real for and real estate matters

[1:58:04] pursuant to section 610.0212.

[1:58:10] » All right. All right. Do I hear a

[1:58:11] second?

[1:58:11] >> Second.

[1:58:12] >> Please pull the council.

[1:58:15] >> Council member Lewis. I'm sorry. This is the wrong one. Council member

[1:58:21] Duel.

[1:58:21] >> Yes.

[1:58:22] >> Council member Solomon.

[1:58:23] >> Yes.

[1:58:23] >> Council member Clark.

[1:58:24] >> Yes.

[1:58:25] >> Chairman Prom Pashan Helman.

[1:58:26] >> Yes.

[1:58:27] >> Mayor Lewis.

[1:58:27] >> Yes. All right. We will now close this

[1:58:30] regular session and move into executive

[1:58:31] floor session.

[1:58:36] » All right. We'll call the we'll close

[1:58:38] the executive session and call the

[1:58:39] regular session back to order. Um no

[1:58:41] major decisions were made uh at this

[1:58:45] point. Um

[1:58:46] >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn

[1:58:48] >> and we will Yeah, we will adjourn at

[1:58:50] 9:45 p.m. Thank you.

August 25, 2026 City Council

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